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MWA287 - Shop Banter

Modern Woodworkers Association

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MWA287 - Shop Banter

"Welcome to the modern woodworkers association. A podcast about woodworking from folk. Who would work? Woodworking is what we do who we are and what we talk about so join us as we have a drink. Sit around and talk woodworking. Hi and welcome to the two hundred eighty seventh episode of the Modern Woodworkers Association podcast on Call Barton of cable and tools. I'm here with my co host. Yami plucky of the penultimate woodshop and Shawn's was WIS news key. Easy for me to say Snooze Goerner was newsworthy. The quarter workshop and tonight we're talking amongst ourselves so royal doing great. How're you fantastic? Little Bad news out there. Yeah and Yeah. Yeah so you know come right in with a man just lead panel. I know well in case someone listens to this years from now we can just skip toward this bart. But I promise you on March Thirteenth Two thousand twenty. This is very relevant. Yes we record. This is incredibly relevant so Talking about the Krono Virus coup-bid Nineteen or end cove. I've seen it designated as well. You out in Ohio. You just have your own way of doing things. No no no that was from some other source anyway. Well Anyway. Well let's talk about that so Bunch of Woodworking of Ben's have been canceled. I know the Woodworking shows or cancelled Lee Nilsson's canceling their events but Probably close to home for US. As fine woodworking live Got Cancelled which due to be April seventeenth through nineteenth. So it was like So you know so I had to go winning and You know cancel I think the hotel rooms were automatically canceled by won and hadn't called them and made sure. I was very impressed by that because as we're recording this on Friday night odd time for us to record this morning As I was getting up for work at the ungodly hour of about four thirty I check my email as I usually do. Let the dogs out and that was the email I got an overnight was them canceling fine woodworking alive and by the time I next checked my email at work my personal email which was probably somewhere between eight nine o'clock in the morning I'd already gotten the email from the hotel saying that it was canceled So how'd you prepared to call them? But I thought that was just very well coordinated between the hotel and the conference how. It'd probably helps that though. Tell is the Conference Center. So they know that speak cancelled But if you're gonNA cantilever I thought that was a very nice way to do it. So that the attendees don't get stuck having to go and deal with their own hotel room or maybe the inability to cancel their forgets. Cancel it or all those things to happen. If they're independent things right right. Yeah I was just belt and suspenders on that. But since they did state it would automatically be canceled. But yeah and also today. I got an email saying that. My My funds or being a refunded back to me so so that might take two or three days but you know in their email. I said I might be you know three or four weeks and it was just the next day. I got a email and it should be in your accountant. A couple of days then is very good and this is this is You know in response to obviously the the pandemic who currently dealing with God God willing by the time anybody. Here's this that it gets just getting better every day. And it's soon too soon to be history wasn't gonNA post in ten hours. I know I know and I'm like somebody might catch next week. And they go. Man is so much better. That's absolutely true. All of you in the future. I hope you're healthy. Everyone in the future I everyone's doing well But no I I don't know on a state by state basis. I know you know. The president has made statements In my state of Ohio they've limited anything to groups of one hundred being the cough limit of any events Down to highschool spring sports have been cancelled or at least postponed indefinitely. At you. Know they don't want any of that going on. You know. Our kids have a three week spring break. Starting now the they're they're cutting it off immediately end trying to react. You know to to you know slow. This spread this very topic woodworking question for that but I know like New York state I think it would require a change of law to actually reduce the number of school days so if that were to happen to us. I believe they would have to add two weeks to the end of this calendar so web aim scenario should be well. It's not well it's it's they're dealing with it differently and I don't know you know they're dealing with it. You know so something. We have an idea you might kyle. I doubt you do down there. But we've got calamity days built into the schedule. We have snow days Calamities because we're workers so call them. Call them snow days but it was four five six years ago. Where right off? Christmas break? a wicked system came through and it was negative ten or lower actual temperature without wind chill and that held off two weeks of school of starting back up and it was just wicked. And you know it was like Oh you know students walking and all this other stuff users. Why wasn't at the roads? Were bad it wasn't that the snow is covering it was the fact that the conditions were non safe and God. You don't build two weeks of those into the calendar do you like? We have like three ethnic. No that's it so they've got like maybe eight. Maybe ten days and different school systems. Have it differently? And we're on the border in Michigan. And they do it differently but what they did at that time and are my kids. Were in grade school. But they were sending home packets and here is a workbook for you to work on. You know for that time to make up that work and there was a way to equival late. The time in school with work being done so you didn't have to go over so that's what they've done for this so junior high up in our school system all have access to chromebooks and they use the Google classroom so the the they made announcements and we asked her kids when they got home today. What so what is it? Oh you know or English. Has this reading. And this has this and so there's work for them to complete while they're away. Which should keep them on the learning path in some creditable way to to make them not go deep into summer. You know making up days of school Had some more things like that down here. Yeah we don't have these snow days or if it ever does no no one's going in and out of luck well everyone's everyone's going to go play in it for one thing but But no they do have claimed leads down here. I guess you know we have hurricanes and stuff like that and Hurricane Harvey you know. Shut down you know entire schools. Yeah it's GONNA take a couple years to rebuild the school so you know they do a lot of work from home and then reassign them to other schools but yeah so so in in terms like this where they're having a kid stay home. It's an effort to to do you know to do with you. Know the to limit exposure It's it's kind of directly in line. With what the colleges are which. Oh and again. I can't speak to the states that you live in but are lovely. Governor came out Earlier Tuesday of this week. I think so rarely Attila early. This all kind of gotten out of hand quickly But he basically said we're under you declared a state in the state of emergency and to limit this and limit this and subsequently you know you see it was. It was way beyond me to colleges. Were starting their spring break and they were. They were saying no face to face classroom. Anything Through the end of March so few go do your spring break when you come back. You're not to report to school. You should be on your computer doing whatever online. And they're going to work to do that. Show you to give shot to my sister-in-law who she works for a university and her job is to facilitate the professors creating and dealing with online courses. Mother some other computer stuff too. But that's really the crux of it and she went from having the majority of professors like turn their nose up and say like. Why would I do that too in two weeks? The university is going exclusively length of the semester. Yes mum and in in our in our case I just heard it's happened today Ohio State University big big school at University. You hurt me. Everyone's heard of that one. I hope I hate them but anyway no no it's fine but they They have I think as I understand it. 'cause I have a neighbor? Who Son is down there. They have told students to not return to dorms for the rest of the year. They're fun happens. You don't look well. Dorms meningitis and other viral spreads happens right. We're trying to limit that at this point. Yeah well what's interesting? Is You know it finally would work in live? I think listeners and certainly all know is that you know it's GonNa take a class with David yard afterwards. I was asked about friends. The show for the For the show are you is that what is the status of that class Kyle. Well I wouldn't and cancelled since I wouldn't flying up there. You know I'd have to figure everything so I canceled my airbnb and went ahead and cancelled the class. But you know fine. Woodworking Zari announced classes next They're the conference next year. There are dates and everything So we're probably just GONNA do a little Repeat that but of course I give me another year to talk one of y'all or Brian to take in the class with me. Well I'll be honest. I don't know that I'm going to take the class next year because I already have like two weeks crap going on next year but Next you be completely selfish. Next year is better for me in this year. Go so I hope we'll that next year. At least you spend the extra day with you and just hang out for a day or two outside of this stuff as we were trying to this year but was not looking good for well. We'll let reminds me you know David reached out me and Was like hey where did you do on the Friday before and I said you know nothing in fact I was flying on Thursday because I get cheaper airline flights and he had set up a thing with the yield furniture. Study for goodness to go there and you know. They have all the chairs and all kinds of furniture. I literally think they have all the chairs they have. You know antiques antiques. From going you know colonial days in precolonial days and So I was really excited about doing that. But they called earlier this week and said were cancelled and that just like dern it but I hope that I can do all that Next year so well. I don't mean to cut the short but I think we should hope that everyone stays safe and healthy and then anyone doesn't get sick as predicting many of us will that it ends up passing with just minor flu symptoms and no one has any Any drastic medical issues. Didn't anyone who does. We certainly wish you the best but right. Now there's no virus in my shop so let's get going guess exactly so The army so last episode. We did you. You couldn't make it but we didn't get your thoughts about woodstock coming back do they. Now Countess along longest running. They can't be the longest continually running guest. Clearly we are forever. The longest continually running Woodwork guest so I complete agreement when you quit you cannot consider yourself continually running. It's just it's a fact. They got a new logo. They do have a new logo. I'm not sure the new the new logo is great. But it's kind of like fixing something that wasn't broken like that's a classic when when my old would talk logo short got a little hole in it. I went and bought. A new would talk logo shirt because you need to have a would talk logo shirt. I hate to yeah Now it's now it's It is retro or What are the kids say? These days about throwback throwback Jersey or throwback right. It's like I I still drink coffee out of an old wood was for a Mug. That was in two thousand nine rounded. One yes I have this straight. Walled White One. Oh No no no. The rounding well. That was much better. When he started bringing those out for the woodwork. Cancer yes that was my favorite Mug and broken Well I have three of them so How about this to next year? You come up early to find woodworking live. I will make sure I'm actually able to attend and hang out with you and you bring me a buck. Sure in in return. I get a personal tour of the city. I will gladly give you that. I'll take you to yell to all the chairs. All righty. I'll get you the best Burrito in New York. How about that? The best breed New York is what gives. You is actually really good pizza Chinese food. That might work or some way. We can make us work absolutely but not to get back to talk I'm glad to see them back. I got a chance to listen to not the most reason episode the one before where they were talking about what changed in ten years and I rather enjoyed that. That was a cool Kinda. I like the pacing of it and the Kind of quickfire format and I understood from you kyle. That they're not all the same yet. They'RE RIPE. They're everyone's a little different. So Yeah Yeah. I've got another one in the in the chamber. I think I think I'm a week behind you. Sean okay. I'm about two weeks behind my podcast listening right now and the format of open a little different but as much as they're different they're also the same yum. I think you know mark shipped away. Mark went to ship. And it's still going to be more ship The best possible way. That's a derision on mark but You know what you're getting when mark is involved in producing it and that's a good thing. degree so no more power to them and You know what guys hopefully the next time you quit. It's a little bit longer so we can catch up an episode number but But you know exactly well next up on the list Friend of the show And Sean I'll let you say the last thing it's a Bob rosy rosy DSP sound. Yeah he's been on the show but I just WanNa look at the name ago Bob or somebody know him. Better be are fine furniture now. I'm not scared as your of course I mispronounced. It already wants today so but anyway. So but but he is updated his website so That's fine woodworking dot com. So you might want to go out there and check it out you know. He's been doing this for a long time. And you kind of organized. Everything into articles audio video and So it's a it's a real great resource and you can also subscribe to the website. So if he when he publishes new content you can get email on the website now and he's a very modern clean and well-defined website. And I would agree. That things are GonNa be very easy to find on it. But when we talked to him I know he was slowing down from. Actually creating new content is the new website simply a resource to make the existing content. More findable and usable. Or does he actually have the intention of making a continuing making new content? Yeah I think he's going to continue making new content but more in the like the articles Actually writing a blog and yeah exactly and a little bit on videos and stuff as as it comes up so Yeah Yeah he's he's definitely making some Some new content also. But you know anyone. That's into hand woodworking. This should be on bookmarked in a couple of different places. When yeah when I when I was getting into more hand working I was definitely I was referencing his his production stuff back in a decade ago. It's been a while. Yeah so it's nice to see it all in one place that you can get to really easily anyway again that's Be are fine. Woodworking DOT COM at the same website. He had or is it actually a new. You know it's the same website. It's just the actual sites updated but the addresses the same. Yeah okay definitely worth checking out. That's the easy way to do it. You don't you. Don't have to rebrand re point bree anything it's same places that always was just with the new coat of paint so. I just wanted to give you all a quick update so Less episode talked about lost our presses. New Book by Chris Williams. Good work that you're making life of John Brown and There's a question there that came up because I had just started the book and Aspen. Ask Us what do they call them? Welsh stick. I ask that I said is it. Good no I'll let you finish but I want to answer before Kyle does because I think I know so my question I just wanted to say. The answer is in the book. The good Mike West Indiana was are are all Welsh chairs. Stick chairs so wire could they just be called stick chairs and not necessarily Welsh stick chairs or could they just be called Welsh chairs? Because they're all stick stick backed okay. I'M GONNA put on my My snooty I don't make winter chairs hat okay. I'm GONNA say the little little worn every a good hat. Though every chair made in in in Wales is a Welsh Chair I would agree to that okay. I'm GONNA assume that. These are called Welsh stick chairs because of the general form of the chair and the fact that it's made of Greenwood which when picking the grain to get some of the components of the chair out from what I've learned of generic making and this being a derivative of that style or maybe a foundation of that style but still family is that you're looking for a particular style of grain straight grain or curved grain given the Mon of the chair so it it is a chair that literally sticks become component of their sticks that are transformed with with a spoke shave and a draw knife and the different components and tools of making a chair but a stick is literally an ingredient in making the chair. So is it as literal as it's a chair made of sticks in Wales. I'M NOT GONNA say you're wrong either. I'll just say the answer is in the book David Rees but no it it would make sense and now you're like any anything made in. Ohio is an Ohioan thing right. I mean that the area defining the thing is is the area's thing but if there are different styles within there there may be Welsh Windsor chairs I'm sayin' right. I mean it could be and so maybe the one thing I will say about. The book is is nothing. Like any other woodworking book. You've ever read Is Much more of a story about a man and making chairs and Told from the points of view of various people throughout his life was making chairs and only made chairs for just a short while. Not a short. But you know not all of his life I think he was in the Royal Air Force and flew fighter planes and stuff like that which is alluded to in the book. I think but not really talked about. But it's more about his chair. Mckinnon his philosophy. And it's it's a story more than it is a woodworking your typical woodworking books. So you know. Of course it has elements that all in there but It's it it's quite an interesting and Dare Beautiful Story About You know the the chair making life John Brown. So it's really good so you said it was going to be full of lewd language and inappropriate imagery. No no no well you now. Yeah I think you you quickly understand that that. He was married a few times during his life. I'm not I'm not certain that you know you want to You know you hear about it. But it's not something that's integral to the chair making story fair I guess. Oh but Staying with a sort of lost art press Introduced this before you do kyle. I will admit my ignorance and I've only looked at the page like thirty seconds ago. That's why don't have the background that you do. These are the lost art press. Crucible Pinch rods which essentially make I want to call it a stories tech. But it's not it's when you have the two Two sticks that can slide to create a distant and their most often used. I can think of making something square suits set them to the opposite inside corners and lock them together and then make sure the other opposite inside. Corners are the same distance to ensure. That what you're making is literally square. I forget what that necessarily called but these are square. Excuse me for the device not not the process but the Akron Device. Use Them for other things too. That's what you're going to see. These are two. They look grasp. But there's some sort of metal squares with probably some sort of a lock on one. It's hard to tell from the photo what it is. I have not read anything yet and the other one has endured knob that locks it down so these are the components that you take to in this case square stocks. That have a Bev. On one end to make a sharp point on once you can get right in quarter and slide them. I guess each other and then locked them in to define the distance and check the other square. And when I I was like why in God's name what I need something machined to. I'm sure absolutely wonderful standard. Because I I'm going to be critical this but I don't mean to be critical already. The machining he does is amazing right. But I'm thinking. Why do you need this amazingly machine square thing to just you know you could literally blue tape them together? And then I saw the price and I'm like for forty eight dollars square. I might spend forty dollars on this. This is really not a bad price. All of my criticism kind of went away when I saw the price exactly. No it's you know I I have a set lea. Yeah leave. Allie used to have something like when I saw this on went to leave Elis website. I couldn't find it. They may be tool. But woodpeckers made something like this and it was to round but it was all their machines antidote. I'm sure they were more than forty eight dollars dollars. Probably but But no I thought this is pretty nice. It's it's pretty nice little set and you know you you have to make your own sticks I think it's interesting. That the ones that they're using her are made out of Mahogany. It looks like because there's minor made out of two. Well I have hold on hold on sorry. I've taken off hold on but is a nice little nice little tool and they are in the once you once you start using them. It's just like Oh yeah. This is much better than trying to do. Take measure and You can even use them for other things like checking distances between legs and stuff like that. So yeah is this a case where any time or Harry could use blue tape but you dear listener deserve better and this quality of the machining of these components and the wonderful precision. It will add an enjoyment. It will add to your crafting of objects that are in square will make your work infinitely more valuable and Ed an infinite amount of enjoyment to your process. So you'd be a fool not to spend forty eight dollars on these. So while while not not requiring a fine violinist steck sturdy to pinch two sticks together to pinch in the corners of your box and then blue tape them around them without them. Shifting might be a little more difficult than it is to them in a captured set of things with a nut to tighten it down. I would add a slight ease to the operation I would. I would actually agree with that. There is more benefit than just the aesthetics one of them. It looks like it's under spring tension and the other one is a neural knob. So you Kinda you landed up. It holds itself and then you twist Knob to lock it in. Is that the case I would? It appears to be Kyle. Can you tell US Kyle have similar? Yeah yeah the one with the neuro. Nabi I'll let's Let's the Let's one piece of wood slide in and out and locks down the other one. Yeah it's locked into other piece of wood. It's it's steady there so Gasso yeah now works. Well now there is a trick that I use while making chair. So if you've got two legs and you've drilled your spindle holes and then you need to measure to see how long spent a whole czar is. This one won't really work as it's going to be too big actually fit into the spin all but you can take to bamboo skewers and put them in either spindle. Hopefully this is making sense and then when you hold them together you just put a little pencil mark on both of them so then you can put it back together. Okay so pencil. Mark Easier than blue tape easier and blue tape and plus you can get the skewers then out of the spindle holes. Yeah that too. Yeah because removing them in that case where you're spanning between two penetrations that yeah you you need the take them apart where you get him out of there or you're stuck. Yeah so that's the that's the technique is think Curtis Buchanan is. I don't know if he came up with it but that's I using it from a technical perspective. Would around one run. One still wouldn't let you do that. So the fact that it's square and a little wide doesn't really impact. Yeah the the thing is is. You're going into two mortices basically so you gotta be able to back it out and then so. I mean if this was made small enough it would do. You would still have to put some sort of more between the two to back together but you know at. That's not what these are designed for these designed to measure distances between things and check for square on cases so at at this price point. They're flying off the shelves. They're currently not in stock. Yeah how often are they unstuck? They're getting much better. You know crucible used to run out of things all the time but I think they're getting better now. New Tools are going to probably run into this but You know they. They are doing a much better job of of keeping things in stock. So but you know this came out like last week so yeah it's going to sell out making everything himself or did they have help keeping everything I think they. I think they have help Do they have L. putting stuff together and I'm not sure you know exactly if he's doing everything or not Haven't kept up with that. But I know that you know. Some of the people like Brandon and and Chris of course himself together a few others John and stuff. You know we'll help you know a symbol lump hammers and things of that nature you know. For instance. Lump Hammers are in stock for a year. Every time they sell out so do you. Do you buy enough with them. That you have sway and could get rainy on. Because he's a joy to chat with I don't know I mean I know Chris but I've met rainy a couple of times but he would know me from Adam I I had. I don't know Fine Woodworking America. Two Thousand and something. We were in the in the starbucks in the COVINGTON Convention Center and I had a fifteen minute conversation with rainy as we way that line starbucks next week and he just an absolute hoot. Be as well. And you know I don't th- as it may not be something he wants to do but sure we can reach out. Everyone wants to be. That's right checked into this kind of. Witless panter exactly exactly but no. I think that's good. That's a good idea to reach out to him and city so Hey I ordered a new product for micro JAG dolled it today. It is the micro jig magnetic dust cover steel table solace now Ramona Valdez. I WANNA say about two months ago. Maybe longer than that posted something similar so basically Must've saw that video and said hey we could make that but You know what I don Ramon is wonderful but this is a that magnetic cover over. That slot was in an article on Vinyl Wood. Working on how to dust proof. A contractors table saw released a decade ago and I literally have my slot covered with renaissance woodworker magnet. That's all it is. It's just the thing to put over the whole. Yeah because for your Arbor's Bellucci swing trick to dust collection. A table saw is having good suction and yeah and you've got so many holes exactly cabinet sauce have poor suction contractor basically just blow so this is a good easy way to close off a giant gaping hole in the front of your saw and because it's a magnet it adjusts when because that whole your cranked. There needs to swing through the whole whole as you. Adjust the angle of your blade a magnet. You can't just permanently. Fill it early nineties and make square things. In which case you should probably by the crucible adjustable things because they'll help you make square but But no I thought E- add that. Yeah I need to do that. I kept thinking about it and thinking did and then I heard about this. I think it might have been on a marks Morning Show where they call him Friday. Yeah I think I might have been on that. But I'm not sure I went out to Micra jigs website and it's not anywhere on their website but it is on Amazon and it's only eight dollars as of today eight dollars and seventy seven to my cart as we've been talking to you chief not to buy exactly so So anyway that's That's something out there so you know like like you're saying this is just a it's basically the same stuff they make those Magnetic cards you get in the mail from the insurance or realtors and it's basically the same material and just like you said it's over where you're arbor swings. My Dad's got a birthday coming up and he's got a PM. Sixty six table. Saw might work nicely. There you go. We won't tell them what it costs. It looks it looks cheap the only and is the only yeah. It is it looks. It looks expensive but it's not cheap. I'm sure it's very well magnetized. It does have that picture on it. You know I'm mighty dollar to to have something that was just black. Yes that you could always you always get some some three m sprayed in different picture on it. Yeah you a picture of me or no picture. Just see a white backed magnet. It could be a bear magnet. It could really care you. Could you could draw a picture of dust particles. There you go. I'm sorry guys is Friday night a little slap heavy. It's fine that's fine. It's fine so that's really cool and it's approachable little accessory to do better your absolutely. It's you know your shop. You don't have this question. I'm not sure if it makes any sense but if you have this collection on your saw it is a no brainer for nine dollars. Why wouldn't you just slap it on? It's going to improve your collection immensely and it's not just a massive dust collector. I if you've got a shop VAC hooked up. This will help absolutely lean over the blow. It's GonNa help so be careful. You WANNA lead into the blade no running no bad anyway. Who's got them twelve. Milwaukee can't see me but I'm raising my hand you yummy all right so years ago festival introduced the CSS. Which is this tiny little. I WanNa say it's twelve volt. It's not eighteen volt. I think it's twelve. It's a little little thing and It's a it's the festival fanatics out. There will have to forgive me if I'm incorrect in this. But I believe it's made for cabinet makers it's a drill driver. It's not a proper drill And I believe it's made for cabinet makers because it comes with a number of replaceable tips. Which gives you chuck's they give you an eighth inch. Quick release but it's the walkie festival in quick release. It doesn't finish It gives you an offset driver and it gives you a right angle driver. Which when you're putting in like drawer slides and different components inside cabinetry is really handy And I looked this thing I said. Wow that's really cool and I bought one and I pulled the trigger and I realized it had zero. Torque and I sold it no okay. It's for cabinets for putting in screws. It's not for driving tap cons into concrete. I understand that but I have a range of Milwaukee End Makita eighteen volt tools. And Milwaukee. Excuse me Makita Milwaukee the redwoods Milwaukee Twelve hundred tools and certainly the eighteen volts are in a different class in the twelve. But even the twelve's they have some power and like putting my my fence together not my dad my fence. I used probably more twelve volt tools. Eighteen volt so okay compared to what I was already used to in the twelve. Volt world this. The festival was in my opinion very underpowered. And that's why I got rid of it because I couldn't drive like inch and a half. Stainless steel screws that I would use for cabinet construction. I couldn't drive them with this thing. It was it was underpowered. Unless they've changed it it remains into power is not worth buying and for for visual clarity. It it's the best tool drill. That has the extra piece in front of your hands. You're holding that comes down kind of weights sheets so when you're going to sword fight your knuckles. Don't get cut there. It is. There's yeah that's so. That's the festival drill fast forward to a few months ago maybe in like November December of last year Makita. No I keep confusing them. Is Milwaukee so read one Milwaukee brings out what as best I can tell is an absolute equivalent? It's twelve volt. It's the same format with that weird thing in front of your fingers. Though at least in the festival the battery had this vertical component at slip into that. The Milwaukee just uses the walkie batteries and fit in the handle. So I don't know why the Milwaukee put it there other than to Connie the design of the festival some advantage yet it has a little magnetic catch. But that's not particularly helpful number necks so so the Milwaukee has the same quick release tips. Maybe it's not the same mechanism but from a practical functional standpoint. It's identical so I picked up the Milwaukee thinking. That's a useful tool and all things being equal. I've yet to be disappointed by Milwaukee cordless tool that I and it's half the price of the fest tool the Milwaukee. Twelve have is certainly powerful enough unlike the festival. So let me try this out so I picked one up around Christmas time and I'm GonNa give it the most qualified to positive review. I can in. That is better than the festival but not worth buying Okay it's better than the festival and then it seems to have an appropriate amount of torque power. I've been able to drive. You know small one two inch screws. Nothing crazy okay. it'd be cabinet makers are thinking. Well you should be driving a three eighths grew. I'm not doing anything small like that. But my opinion twelve drills you'll be able drive to unscrew and this does that I have done things with the offset head that are truly helpful because the offset had put the driver right on the edge of the shape of the body where you have to put it up against a cabinet wall or something I was fixing was actually fixing the stands for our flags for boy scouts and we have a pipe that comes up that ended up being female receiver of the flagpole that drops down in it and the flange that gets screwed down the base. The pipe is right next to where the screw will goes and I couldn't do it without the offset tip and I stepped off the tip on and it was a breeze and it was really helpful. But that that that's just as helpful with the festival but again the Milwaukee is more powerful and that's benefit and it's half the price and that's an but the negatives which is why I would say it's still not something I can recommend you buy unless you truly need one of these heads. It has the right angle of you offset because the the regular. Chuck Eddy. Drew has that so. That's not necessarily a benefit couple. Things is that in Milwaukee twelve volt. They make a larger battery. That has like a square base that sticks out from the handle and they've a smaller battery. That's kind of A. It's a rounded triangle. Shape that fits in the handle than yours so if you use the smaller battery then that Weird Guard thing that comes down in front of your hand and the battery make a level base and you can rest like on the on the base of the drill as you can like most eighteen volterra have a big fat battery in the bottom Okay you use the bigger battery. Which is what. I have most often what I use more often because they last longer. Then that that Weird Front guard thing doesn't hit the ground and it tips forward and you can't rested on its base has put it on the side which is a little inconvenient. I understand they have to GYP. Batteries styles have popout foot. For God's sakes like just do something. If you're going to use this thing a lot you're gonNA want the bigger battery and the bigger battery makes it less useful. That's a problem All the pictures I've seen so far tonight show with the big battery long snow battery. It works conveniently with a small battery but as I said like I probably have five or six of the big batteries and three of the small batteries like whatever I bought a battery. I I only by the big ones. Because why wouldn't you everything else rests on the big battery because they don't have that silly front thing to balance on and the big battery just less lower so that's one thing the other thing is it has rather than having a switch of a physical switch that moves it from forward to reverse. It has a push button on the top that that's digital and know I don't particularly care there's digital really bothering me but it has a light indicate whether it's in forward or reverse and what I have discovered through use is that I can see that light just finding my shop and if Wola making his kitchen cabinets that's fine the middle you go outside. You can't see the light. It's not bright enough so I was using it actually at work. I was anyone who saw the instagram post. I made Under the Mwa account just as we were recording. I was showing the Bosh Jigsaw. That's on my workbench right now. How my workbench? It's on the top of the team centers where it is And I didn't show is that there's a couple of holes drilled through the foot of that saw because we had to make this curved edge at work and I bought the saw for work to to make the curved edge. I made a rounded wooden thing that fit at screwed underneath to act as a guide and then we cut through it. That's not really the point. But because I was there making the curve because no one else knows how to make curves properly because we're not makers I had this drill with me and the drill was was fine in terms of its power. I was driving inch five eighths and two and a quarter inch wood screws. It drove them no problem. I could not tell if I was in photo reverse. I literally realized I needed to pull the trigger to tell what direction I was in before. I could drill down because the light was. You could not see the light I was. It was It was February in New York so it wasn't particularly bright It was it was impossible to see the light and I think that's probably an oversight because my guess is that they never tested it outside because it's really not designed for outside use but then again unless we're talking to a professional cabinet maker this is going in your homeowner's tools and you're gonNA use it a little bit everywhere and it's it's useful to know that you can't see this light outside whereas if you have a traditional throw switch you can tell whether it's in photo reverse without having to like you know coupled with your hand or watch the spin so that big negative yeah my my hand is conditioned to use the like gun safety style index finger pushes it in. Its going forward thumb PU- pushes it back. It's going in reverse. I know exactly what that's doing That's weird to make it to change that now. The only other one. I've seen changes a driver than my dad has which is a dewalt and it was a it was a gyroscopic control. So you twisted to the left. You're unscrewing if you twisted the right you're screwing electricity tool because you're just driving screws into threaded metal. What are the motorized ones? That looks like a screwdriver. Yeah you twist the handle to make it ninety degree handle Gotcha or it could be ozone. It's very very thin cylinder naturally but that would that had this little gyro in it. So that you just engage when you press it the would go in and that would be like. I can go now. And if you tilted left it would driving the further you tilted the more it would drive and it had a little bit of tour but not too much and you can adjust it with its standard kind of. Torque adjuster But otherwise why mess with what really has been largely a standard as far as I've known in my lifetime. Yeah the one I use I had the the Bausch one the little twelve. Oh bausch one that's and I haven't got an eighteen twelve and then the new twelve. I've got I've got and I've got a big fat bass twelve but I use it all the time for you. Know driving screws in and and things like that and Boy least had that twelve years and it still works like a charm so but you know it's the same form factor as a regular a drill a number of those Milwaukee's that are that same form factor. I have a drill driver that are. That's informed factor and I have the dewalt. That's the impact gone in the twelve. Volt which is really handy. Little tool sometimes And I've been really pleased with all of them. Which is what led me to buy this. I was like well. The four factors pretty cool. Milwaukee makes nice stuff I like to twelve. I have the twelve all the why not get it and It's not again. It's more useful than the festival is half the price and the festival. So I can't say don't buy it. It's not a waste but Unless the special tips really or something you need. It's it's not a useful addition to your arsenal. Unless you really need the benefit it provides right agree. Yeah my regular drill. Drivers are are Milwaukee. I guess I got a hammer drill. I got a twelve built in eighteen. Bolton impact eighteen I duck out here but as I'm looking around my shop just in the stuff that doesn't fit in my cabinet seats cordless Milwaukee's and one Louis Makita. Yeah I've been. I've been really pleased with the Milwaukee so the Chuck's really nice but I have heard over a lot of USA. King can be problematic but bother. Yeah the trucks. But it's but I've never had an issue. I am real gentle. I'm not shocks on. You know I'm not you know Just grabbing almond and mash guerrilla full-throttle to tighten them up. I never had an issue with chuck my first Milwaukee Twelve volt drill. I blew the clutch in it but I was drilling. It was like a three eighths inch drill bit through steel and the Druidic court and that was the clutch broke and I had no power to the chuck and it was like you know what I I know. I overuse the drill and I can't blame it for that replaced it with a new one. And he's been working fine since but the actual chuck. I've never had an issue with one person. Say That to me but you know like I said I don't. I don't WanNa put a lot of stock into that because that's just that's just one thing and I've never had had an issue with him. Yeah and I've been Bosch since the old When they used to drop the battery off the top of the truck to prove that it was the brute for whatever you know like back in you know ten fifteen years ago whenever that was I've been washed only before that I did have a dewalt that I bought the next day I went and I was. I was drilling. I was driving screws. I was putting a set together for musical and the clutch stripped on it and I took it back and I said No. I'm never using the same again and I do. We're talking like circa two thousand to two thousand ish but that's been awhile timeframe. Two thousand two thousand. The Dewalt was king. No timeframe sucked. Yes yes the Milwaukee had sucked and the Puerto cable sucked at the time. Too and Boston just starting to get better and you know it was a tie it. Whatever and that's why I did. I walked into Home Depot. I bought this thing. It was like it was an lower whatever at the time and But yeah it's like why and just walked right through and I went what the Hell and couldn't adjust it back. It was just gone limited. Forget to say two things. I want to Milwaukee for second because I have a number of their lights and I'm wanting to light one. I got for free because I'm GonNa Battery and one I actually paid for but I have their life because I have older batteries. Not necessarily because their lights were the best but I have been really pleased with their lights and as a unit and boy scouts. Now we don't use lanterns. We USE MILWAUKEE BATTERY POWERED LIGHTS NUMBER OF US. Have them and they work that well. They'll ask all weekend so that's impressive that they really are. They're wonderful But to switch back to the Bosch for a second I like Bausch as a brand name and the Bosch Things I own are very nice and like I was talking about this jigsaw before my personal corta. Jigsaw is an old circa two thousand and one port cable and it's tank but it it has no finesse And I have a Milwaukee Makita a Makita eighteen. Volt cordless jigsaw which I really like. It's the older style they've they've updated it with a new one that I've tried and don't like but I have the older one it's made in England of all places and it weighs a ton without the battery but it is a really well made jigsaw Since I've owned that I've bought a fence tool car. Vex Jigsaw and said this is crap and sold the mill the Makita cordless is better than the festival hands down but this Bosch. I got it for work because we were cutting this curve and I knew I had to drill a bunch of holes for the foot so we put it in the course of the job and it's probably going back to work but I have been pleased with the use of this box and I've only heard good things about jigsaw us but the Bosch cordless tools the handle strikes me as abnormally fat and just slightly uncomfortable to hold. Do you find that or are you just lost them like I yeah? I'm I'm used to them. Maybe I I have no problem. Although hands is is very I was a piano player or an I could cover ten keys with spread between my thumb and my pinkie so maybe I big hands school and nothing against your hands. But you're not personally no. I'm not I'm assuming that I have bigger hands and you 'cause I I have relatively large hands. I wear an extra large glove and even that I think to a double X. on some brands that that's really relevant. But but no. I don't know I mean I I've never had a going with a man I I haven't used a great deal of of of other other drills and drivers I could just becomes too because it could. It could be an. There's difference in them. I mean I'm I'm from where I'm sitting. I can see the soft bag that has the old twelve volt with the nonsurgical battery sticks right up in the bottom end of it as as like a clip Those are different shape than what my eighteen volt route has or things dying. The battery can't hold the charge anymore or anything But the I don't know they're all they're all different but I've not had a problem with them But I haven't used another makers my dad's got Milwaukee stuff but I. I can't remember the last time I put into my hand. I just don't but back in the day I I was building houses with gas. Pass load. Naylor's those things terrible handles uncomfortable. They were just shit. Yeah maybe but again guests charges in the handle. It was a battering the handle guest charges in front You how was it knows this gas charge? It was it was guest charge but it was in the handle. I'm trying to remember how we did that. Because you had to push them in and then when they were done would throw them in the fire and make them explode Refined woodworking live in two thousand twenty one firepit in the backyard. You should bring your those. Those are the construction company work where they were there but but But not yet no. It's anyway. Yeah I guess handle geometry's never really bugged me you know and if I look at the different saws and stuff I have a hand saw. Those handles are completely off the board. You know my my one rip saw is square in one profile. And so you're wrapping around to thinner section. Then you're holding between the PAT of your hand and your fingers. It's just I don't know I've never had a problem. But maybe that's just me. Maybe let you bring us all the way back to the Milwaukee M twelve fuel. Three eighths inch installation drill driver. Yes just rolls off. The tongue does does well festival. Css IS I guess a little bit better but it sounds like a train. Do they have like a One or a quarter inch installation driver or a quarter inch half inch insulation drivers interest. But I think it's because it's the three eighths inch drill when you put a check on it which are traditionally a little smaller than the half intro so it had oh that chuck has a capacity to chuck has since but but the truck is just one of four tips to plug into it. So I don't know why it's that size. Why they just call it their their little baby drill driver. I don't know but To GET BACK TO ERGONOMICS FOR SECOND. It's not necessarily a problem but to hold it properly and to use it it's a very historic grip style. cordless tool a lot of drill driver is not handled. This is a pistol grip and you need to pull the trigger with your Middle Finger and have your index finger like running along the side of the body took. Oh really grip it comfortably and okay. I don't actually mind that. That's how I hold a saw like I'm holding my various I don't know what am I. Various Jones by twelve to fourteen in my hand as we're talking and that's exactly how I just naturally put my finger but that's saw and I don't naturally hold drill that way so it's not a complaint but it's just I've had to get used to holding it that way and when you hold it that way it's wonderful because your fingers right in line with the driver and it works fine. It's just different than every other driver have Different will the lightweight and some tour. Maybe that helps with just controlling it and to have on hand to have your middle finger engaging the trigger. I mean there's just a whole lot of weird or economic movement interesting because my Milwaukee The twelve volt which is a hammer drivers. Big It's a big one bits before they made eighteen volts. It's probably you know four or five years old but it's more of a pistol grip style and I'm GonNa have to pay attention the way I hold that one versus my other Milwaukee which is a newer one And it's more of a that t type panel but you're you're as to hammer drill so is that one of the ones that has the battery in the front in front of the handle no no no amounts in the handle both yeah both of them are quote Unquote Hambur hammered drill drivers but our hammer drills but like once twelve lends eighteen volt. I mean they're full size. You know they're not baby Like this drill driver type stuff through standard format. And I'll just throw this. I'm just wondering what the Pistol Grip on the twelve. Oh I wonder how actually hold that because I'm kind of second nature to To use my middle finger and put my indexing along the the body. I I'm GonNa like how to actually use it when I grab it. Yeah I'm GonNa pay more attention because I- i- flop recently between three different drills of two different formats and one two of them because the same battery but they're different one's one's got chuck on the front and one just got the the spring loaded the quick release yeah and And then the other is the pistol grip one and I. I think between middle and index finger. You know pulling you know depending. I don't know I'm GONNA have to up. Just pay more attention to that I. It's just an interchangeable movement. Maybe maybe maybe well let's give. Let's get to a little love though I do on so many things but I think I sound like I'm the one I know people who universally loved them or universally hate them know anyone else who takes the fifty fifty few that I have. I'm staring right now. I literally let me count. I have eleven fest Tool Sanders. Enders hanging in my Sandra Cart and I'd probably have one or two more. Besides that have both dominos track saw. I have dumped by kids college education in the fest tools so not against the plane but they earn enough universally the best everything. There are some things they suck at their routers our garbage. They're they're cordless drills are way overpriced and some of them are okay. Some of them are terrible. They do their tick sauce. I don't get it jigsaw. Suck like they're no tool company. Makes everything the best? That's true of everybody off years and years and years ago. I was a huge fan of Porta cable before they got bought by Dewalt Puerto cable used to make the best courted screw guns. I didn't know that Don category doesn't exist anymore. But there was a time when they made the absolute best corded screw guns but they didn't make the best of other things so I think you need to approach festive like every other company. They're not this holier than Thou Wonderful Brilliant Company. They make very nice stuff and some of the stuff. That's okay yeah I totally agree with you and one of the things I think they do make nice as their dust extractors that they do live two of them. They're wonderful yes can they can't be a little pricy but but they just released a new one. Okay this I don't know that because I've not been paying attention. Let me ask you you delete in makes it sound like it's affordable. Does that mean it's too small to us? I don't think so okay. I think it's standard is. It's not you know I have the thirty six an old one before. They redesigned him but That's been a workhorse for me. But they just came out with a CT fifteen. Which I think is the hander mid-size the mini one in the mid. One I think is like the mid size want so. It's bigger than the there. There are many one but I mean it's a fully You know carte one looks to be you know it's you know I don't know I wanNA say stands may twenty four inches tall something in that neighborhood But anyway it's only three hundred forty nine dollars would say only only that is that is a great price for festival. Dust extractors and that prices kind of a gateway drug. So don't knock it and what I will say is a couple things about festival Not necessarily even that one you talk about the old one. That's the one where the dust intake is on the side of the center. No it's in the center. But I WANNA say mine's like from around two thousand seven two thousand eight. I think around two thousand though. I don't know twelve or so they. They redesigned him. Years must have. Oh Oh you must have either. It's newer or the dust extractors on the side the the actual hosting on the side because it was probably only about four or five years ago that they redesigned them to move the dust connection to the center. Well Mine's mine's on the front. Are you talking about the the the side of does collector know it's the front but the older ones had it all the way? If you're facing the I guess it's all the way to left versus Senate side. No no you're you're exactly right. That's the that's the model is I have. I don't have my number in front of me in from where I'm sitting. I can't actually say it's behind my stand. Iraq is the twenty six. Is the Big One thirty six. What's the number for the Big One? Thirty six mine was. I think mine was the biggest at the time. I think it's like a thirty two exactly. I have the older style in the biggest size at the time And I have the newer style in the biggest size at the time. My older style. is wonderful. I actually burnt out the hippo filters because I was I was in taking burning. Mdf embers at it melted the filters. I'd have replaced filters but it's been an absolute workhorse and I have a dust. Deputy on it and it's wonderful. I. It is a great great vacuum. I have the newer one. The the older one is a little awkward to lock in that. There's a separate lock for each of the rear wheels and at least in my driveway which is not level some of the times the rules don't contact and we'll still drift occasionally but it's not bad The newer one. It doesn't like with the wheels it has this little foot that comes out in the middle. Which makes it a tripod. And it's a little tippy and I don't like that The new one is a little harder to open I. I'm forgetting the inside because quite frankly I got the new one I said this is not an improvement. I put the new one in the attic and I haven't used it since I talked to my festival dealer and I was told at the time the new one came out. Which has to be pregnant. I'm wrong two three years ago. Maybe three or four years ago. It's a while something like that. Yeah it's been a while when the new one came out. Which of course takes different bags? I was told that they would only make bags for the old one for five years so I didn't just turn around and sell the new one because I didn't want to be in a situation where five years down the road. I couldn't get back to my old. What ended it needed. A new one So my new ones been sitting on my attic. Virtually since I got it and I continue to use the old one which I there's some subtle things that they say are better at the new one. I don't even remember what they are at this point but none of them proved to be any better. The old one the wheels lock easier. The form factor is a little bit smaller. More compact made it easier to fit in my shop and I still have three bags for the old one so until I run a bags and can't get them anymore. I will continue to use the old one and then I'll reluctantly switch to the new one. Yeah Curtis they're awesome. They're also in this is like you said entryway gateway drug so to speak into the tool Ecosystem I mean. This was three hundred fifty bucks. It comes with the anti-static hose which the other ones do not want the regular green hoses. When has the gray hose and even comes with of tools a crevice tool and the sweep tool which is Which is pretty Nice Minding. Come with any success stories like that and like. I said it's only three hundred fifty bucks there many which is even smart which is smaller than this one. I think is five hundred dollars And so this is kind of like the one and only festival I have just the CT one twenty five no but whatever the standard that's like they brought a couple of years ago it was a hundred bucks a hundred bucks. Yeah so I got an festival for one hundred bucks sucked but no I want to call attention to this highlighted line on their site that said the C. T. Five does not have bluetooth connectivity. And there's no option for Bluetooth as an add on. Please tell me why. In God's name you need Bluetooth technology on a dust collector. I know the answer it's stupid. You're correct I don't remember. I try to listen to most of the woodworking podcasts. Out there and you have to forgive me. I don't remember which podcast it was but literally two days ago. A day ago wasn't today because I didn't. I was in the office all day but last time I was in the car extended which I think was yesterday. I was listening to one of the many woodworking podcasts out. There and there was discussion of one of the hosts had multiple vacuums and was talking about how he had a couple but the one that he really liked was the one with the Bluetooth and at the time my thought was why the Hell do you need a bluetooth connector on your vacuum like you go to the festival website and it talks about how you know if you have the Bluetooth in the vacuum. Your kids won't get cancer and you can't get the corona virus. Jesus Christ never really I know but it it it tout's some mythical benefit and I think I use the vacuum as rigorously perhaps less frequently but as rigorously as anybody out there and I remember when they came out with thinking. Why on Earth would I want to do that? And now that I'm sitting here I can't think of I can't think of a reason. Why Bluetooth important like the advantage of the vacuum is that you plug your tool into it. And when the tool turns on the vacuum turns on turns you off off fifteen seconds later so it clears the lines of dust and yes. You're on the fact that that is a wonderful feature that frankly all vacuum should do but only a handful of them do. Yes so something. I I put on my whole house. Humidifier is a current sensing relay so that it only blows wet air when the fan is actually blowing otherwise it's going to put wetness into a system that's not moving and that's a bad thing exact. So so why. That needs to be wirelessly. Any wireless technology why it doesn't make sense because you're only gonNA plug one thing into this thing at a time. Okay here's the thing and I think I think in this discussion. I think I've come up with it is for the newer generation of cordless tools Because if you're cordless it can't sense when the tool is on or off This wrong I shouldn't but I'm not wrong. That doesn't make sense but okay. But here's the thing I I was listening. I've said this a couple of times tonight. I will continue to share it. I'm tweets bad about podcasts. Everyone take note. I was listening to the most recent for me. A fine homebuilding podcast. Because I think most of us we've enjoyed and Patrick's a Nice Guy. I like and in their most recent episode that I've listened to which is probably two weeks old they were discussing track source. And they're not woodworking guys. They're carpenters Patrick. Is the host of the show. I know him personally when you talk about eighth of an accuracy. His eyes glaze over. He is a carpenter. Not a woodworker. And that's wonderful because he makes nice stuff and he's a good guy and I like But he was talking about having the festival track saw and another editor was talking about having a cordless track saw and the advantage of the cordless and they were both like well. If you really nice by connected to the vacuum but I don't Bother Connecticut vacuum and I'm yelling at the car because I'm listening to this as I'm driving and I sent them an email because I of course I did about how you there were right. You need to connect the track. Sorta vacuum but the instant you connected to the vacuum. The fact that is cordless is useless. Because you've already got the vacuum hose. Why not have a regular court so that returns to this vacuum discussion of if I'm going to connect vacuum to a sander or saw or domino. Why Earth would I need it to be cordless because I've already going to vacuum what was going to it because some might and it's why I mean they're just like money right now and I haven't heard that actually from a post framer 'cause I'm interested in that kind of stuff that like. He was whatever he was working in his shop instead of on the field and he said Yeah because of all the batteries stuff we've been using battery Naylor's and battery drivers you know but man in the shop. This air hose connected. Naylor really is awesome. It's lightweight it's easy to move around. Why would you not you know? There's a there's a place for it and there's a place not for you. The advantages are there are separations between the two. You know what just Y application. I agree but again I'm GONNA come back to the fact that for a Bluetooth connected vacuum to work. The vacuum hose needs to be connected to the tool. Yeah so exactly. Even if you're in the field in the field cordless tools are wonderful but the minute you connect them to a vacuum and vacuum has to plug in. Why wouldn't you just use a cordless tool the plugs into the vacuum? Because you only have a hose going there. Not So fast. They do have some cordless vacuums now festival. I don't think I will does. I don't know what about their ITTY bitty one little sustain is when I don't know that one might I don't I don't think so but it might but I look at that one unless you're installing jewelry boxes in million dollar homes. Why would you ever want to vacuum that sport? It's Kinda cool that fits in with everything else. But it's so frigging tiny. Oh God how anyway? So that's how I feel the fifteen berlinger three hundred forty nine dollars in fuel. Three eighths installation drill driver. Yes yes but okay. Well let's let's talk festivals more because they're always giving us some things so Have I guess? Mobile selling tables? What they're calling it out and I watched the videos. It's Kinda of interesting but I think you could build something very similar yourself for less than a thousand dollars for the listeners. Who heard me made that noise apologized? I'm looking at these things for the first time as we're recording and I am not a proper host and having prepared and haven't looked these notes I I own that sitting in front of my garage right now but it's made by different company and I only paid half the price for the unique thing about this that that Solo is interesting. Is You know it will. It will help you handle your. She geds actually put him up into a horizontal Orientations doors on parent orientation exactly and it. Also you know you can. Also you know Disassemble it fairly easily. Get into a nice compact shape and I think you'll handle some large goods but thousand dollars is a lot to spend on something like that. It's too much I'm thinking you know with some experience with or Y'all familiar with eighty twenty. They make Extruded aluminum parts you can buy. You can make something using their components for probably a third of the price. I would think well I have when I when I'm actually doing work. Which has not been for a very long time listener When I'm actually doing work I use my benchmark table all the time and I often get questions about it collapsible table that has plastic not wooden things that pop up on the top and you can sort through the plastic and before they went into business they were nice enough to send me about just off so I have extra. It's an imperfect solution because they are out of business but I think I paid about four hundred bucks for it and mine this this festival kind of fold up like an accordion like cross pieces have hinges and its remains standing and wheels on the bottom. Which is Kinda cool? I guess they're already awful up. So it's still the same height but but compacted whereas mine the legs hinge underneath it twice a flipped onto its side and the legs fold up so minds about thirty inches wide by five foot long. Something like that. You put it Saporta. She could just find. The sheet hangs over on the sides and I love it. I absolutely love it and I've had mine for years and years probably going on a decade and I would not be without it when finally dies because I'm going to be upset that I can't buy another one It's a great great thing and if this is your version of that you know what I've got a thousand dollars worth of use out of mine and mine was only four bucks. But why would you pay a thousand dollars for this? I just don't get it. Yeah I don't either. Well I guess if you're in the you know if you're an onsite contractor and you're in the fest tool world and you want to you know but all the time you may be able to pay for something like this and short order. I don't know two two things if you're anti contractor into the cost the job it's not that big a deal. I absolutely understand that. All things being equal there mark is professionals who make money at this so in that world a thousand dollars not that much money. I understand that but your second point of your in the festival world. Well this is a table. It doesn't interact with their system at all. Like you give table from anybody. This rather unique special table. But it's not like it connects to your vacuum or your Sandra or something. It's just a Table Has Bluetooth God notification. When you fold it up your phone knows exactly you know and you can locate it around the job site. You know Big nope there's a market for this. Clearly they think there is a market for this and they're probably right but I'm GonNa go with you Sean. Nope yeah well. That's why I'm put it in the show notes because I knew I knew you would have a fun time with this one for anyone who wants to look it up. It is the festival two zero five one eight three S. TM eighteen hundred mobile sewing table. Ooh I wanted to twenty eight hundred. Roll another one. Wait till the upgrade it and then the bags will fit anymore right anyway so too. I got something for you. Which is a little smaller. Little more fits in your pocket kind of things right No this was Lazarus earlier this week maybe today earlier to be the the woodpeckers pocket compass now I don't find myself needing to draw circles on the fly but the in the in the woodpecker style of red analyzed aluminum recision machines parts. This is a pretty slick. Look a little thing where it's got basically a Inner how would you say that they fight inside each other to pieces each other male and female component with adjustability? There you go that you you set a point. It has a has a point that threads into the back end of it for storage and then can be put into it for as a pivot point and pencil drives down in it. And you can draw circles of varying diameters and there's two different sizes anyway. I thought it was a cool little little thing in the same vein as the The PAULINI pocket square that they brought out years ago. It's it appears to be about the same size and this one at least yeah. Yeah do you have the big one of those Pollini ones I have? I have two of the small ones actually. I don't have the big one okay. Oh I didn't realize they made a big police but this doesn't make a big one and yeah the the the small one of these for sure. It's it's like it is truly possible And it just yeah. If you find a the need to draw now these are true circles. There's no elipsoid or or any other shapes you can do with them. They are just. It's a circle cutter Circle Marker And only a circle marker but I think it's. It's pretty cool. I second that and harp on it for a minute. Is that go? If you're in the market or in the habit of making circles often this is probably a really good way to go because I will admit that when I have made circles it's been kind of some kind of jury rig thing that kind of makes the circle you know it makes circle but it's not that stable and I babysit it's not ideal and I actually have a They sponsor the other podcast. But I have a Iraq Ler Circle cutting dig that I bought after the last circle. I made more circles but I haven't made a circle sits So if you're making circles this I'm sure this is fantastic. Because woodpeckers makes really nice stuff at dwell machine and it is it looks very convenient in that sense. I make not necessarily square stuff but I tend to power more than make circles. So the the pay. Leena rule that you mentioned one lives in my In my apron like it's fantastic it was. I'm going to guess it was fifty bucks something like the was it. Oh I don't even know 'cause I have one too. I wasn't wasn't terribly expensive him. I don't think it was much easier hundred or one hundred fifty bucks depending on the size. I'm looking at sixty. You can do the one. The one the little ones rain dri- little one is sixty bucks. One is one hundred. Sixty is probably only a little bit more than the paling rule was at the time it's twenty bucks more. Yeah Thirty percent but still if you're making circles often I'm sure this is a wonderful tool. I don't make circles often. It seems a wonderful tool to solve half. I actually make circles fairly the thing I can see. That's great about this. It's easy to set it up site. I want to circle. You can look like you can easily get it to two inches in boom whereas if you're using you know what? I Use a traditional compass. Is that you know you might have to lay that up against a ruler. You know adjusted Nanu fine adjustment to to get into your you know dimensions but I'd be interested to play around with one but Even though I make circles I'm not sure I want to spend sixty or a hundred dollars you know I got a Nice. Compass works really well. Well the question was about forty bucks or so questions circles. Do Make and you get paid for the circles. Exactly because that's not the answer to this thing. Yeah exactly but you know I can see some advantages. You know. It's something you can carry around with you. Where compass cans especially the one I have is a fairly big one in has sharp points all kinds of neat stuff like that that you don't want to be sliding into your apron in and out so I can definitely see where this would come in handy because it looks like the little piece that actually you know That you re ball around the little pinprick as I would say actually installs inside the device. We don't have to worry about any sharp points or anything like that or find a cap to cover your shark point. It's nicely self contained and I I mean it's one of their rolling one time tools. They just like to set up machining for one thing. Find out how many people want it and make that many you know and they James machining safely. How they operate. That's a wonderful method because it brings a lot of things to market. That might not be able to and I don't fault them for all because it lets them gauge things and understanding how they make them with the machining and the level of waste they have in aluminum. That believe it or not doesn't end up square when the machine because it has some memory. I Wa complained about the expense of certain things that are so specialized that I'll never use I. I will never complain about the cost relative to what they invest in making these things like. It's a lot of work during them right. No for sure very. Yoon your special need that you we specific need tool but I thought it was kind of interesting. They use it. It's self contained. It's not gonNA poke to your pockets or or anything like that and I mean even the big one probably fits in the apron. It's seven inches long. Give or take so I mean it's not gigantic. Would it be fair to call it? The ILLINI pocket rule of Circle Jerks. Yes not knowing Leney and whether or not he would agree to that. But Yeah Yeah. I'm sorry I do not have the Pollini One. I have a DVD one. You're still the F not even talking to you head curious how much it was. The one ball is fifty bucks. That's probably about what repaid expensive. I have to only because I bought one for my dad for father's day before I give it to him so I kept and now nobody. Yeah Kyle your year off cheerleader. Because of the lack of antedates red handed is aluminum near shop. Damn I do have their angle gauge Do you know what all my woodpecker stuff. It matches my milwaukee stuff the red one got it and your Bessie clamps right. That's right and as I look at it I guess it is just the best The jets are read to the plastic cups. I use for mixing things in their red to. Oh Oh you know what they're they're solo so another thing to add in that actually was mentioned and I am just right off of the would talk episode. Most recently isn't too way before this episode comes out The and nothing. What was it? It was the the glue. It's a woodpecker. Snow knits a rottweiler. Glue Blue Brush. No like inside container like at the Square Container Square Ish Container. Oh holds like four to six ounces of square container. That's well it's silicone so it releases what has been white project Luna. Yeah some wonderful. Yeah I I I I heard of it and I looked it up and I'm like Oh that is really cool. 'cause I I'm mixing poxy doing this rocket stuff. I've been doing in in like wax cups like just like bathroom cups that for some reason we have them down here. And they're not Dixie cups their their whatever but they're fine and the Apache actually releases from I don't it's probably something bad. That mixing them in a Wax Lined Paper Cup. But I don't know oh by the way I just I just noticed here before we get off the subject too far is a pocket. Compass may had the small one back in twenty thirteen. Now they did for fifty bucks. Okay so large sixty twenty thirteen fifty bucks. Two thousand thirteen no inflation. It happens new ones coming the virus so you just wait hold on. I'm sorry the small one went up to seven inches in diameter Ryan Yes yes the this one back in twenty thirteen only six and a half. Oh so they've expanded it more material ten bucks more seven years later. It's well within sound marketing. We're good so anyway. So so are you talking about. Oh Yeah the Little Rock Glue Pot thing. Yeah I think that Interesting as a non disposable way of a mixing small batches of poxy. If you're doing little craft poxy or or even project glue where you're not. I'd I've never have you guys ever like poured out glue used it and then try to pour it back in Epoxy cures but yeah most glue. I I pour out of the bottle onto it. This is the Iraq ler silicone glue keeper this square thing. It's ten bucks. Yeah it's like it's it's super cheap. It's basic they. You know the guys on an on woodstock talked about seeing it workbench Khan and And it for ten bucks. I mean if it's that's cheaper than even the cheapest Cups Deal Mixing Cups. What's interesting is I do. user Glue brushes couple myself and Both the large ones in the in the small one and they just came out with some even smaller ones. And I'll pick those up and I noticed here in the pictures they rest neatly the container. So that's nice there you go. It's a debt. That's the thing I Dino sometimes silicone because I got some Silicone PADS is. Yeah the glue does release from bed. Doesn't always all released from it? You kind of have to watch it. Yeah I'm only using tight bond as I look at my shelf. Taipan one to entering. But I'm using pond in my silicone stuff and I have no problem just peeling it off to wash using primarily liquid. Hide Glue so you can see. It's not as it's not as clean You just heat it up. It'll it'll probably probably not wrong. Rework it yeah probably probably melt the glue pot or the be careful burke keever sorry Ebert Cheaper Hieber lined up for ten bucks. I'm I'm considering it. Could I ask a question and I don't mean to be spoilsport? Here doing these here. What's the shipping? Oh I don't know that that is. The products are not prohibitively expensive. They usually a good deal on but they're shipping. We live in a world where shipping costs are minimal because of monster corporations and they're not a monster corporation. I'm trying to be sympathetic to that. But they're shipping seems prohibitively expensive to go into Houston. So it's a big deal to me. I think is in Ohio. Oh and the nearest one to me is two and a half hours away from me in Ohio Better than ten. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. Well Andy Card you proceed. It's probably one of those things where they appreciating for like purchases up to forty dollars in your at thirty two dollars. You can just throw this on there. I think there's an Amazon way of doing this says Amazon. Pay As an option at checkout. There's Betcha that show you can get married on Amazon. I know woodcrafts would just as expensive now. There is a woodcraft a mile from my autism. So I could definitely do that would craft in Rochester which is about nine hours away. Oh my God man you would think somewhere near you. There would be both a woodcraft. Rock layer there's tools for working wood which is only an hour and a half in Brooklyn. It's true that's an hour and a half way. Well it depends on the time of day but yeah after. Tom Got moved up to New York to help with Katrina. Which for those of you. Who Remember Katrina happened to us? In the fall and woodworking Katrina hit us on a Sunday into Monday and woodwork in America. Started that Thursday so I manage to go to woodworking America. I shared a room with Tom that year. He had his bag packed to go to New York. But then up flying back to Tampa before then two days later turning around and flying into New York to help with Katrina so the one in Winston Salem. No because I didn't go to Winston Salem it was we were in Kentucky Huntington But the reason I mentioned it is Tam was. He was helping in some department that he wasn't qualified for Tom's a wonderful guy. He's qualified in public relations very well. He wasn't in public relations. He was in like logistics. I forget what it was but he was complaining. Rightfully so about you know the fact that they took gold this team from Florida that was experienced in handling hurricanes and completely mismanaged them at central departments. They had no experience but anyway he was working like fourteen and sixteen hour days for most of the two weeks he was in New York. So it's like day four T it's ten at a fourteen something like that and he only worked twelve hour days so I drove into Brooklyn to pick them up and we hung out in the afternoon and we tried to go to tool for working wood and we got there like five minutes after they closed. We didn't get to go the story. So I'm sorry I've written about Hurricane Katrina coming tropical storm. Sandy though there wouldn't you're absolutely right could hit But it was better than saying no. You're actually right. I'm embarrassed to say that to realize that Jesus I was like what I think might be done. I might be talking. Yeah so yes sandy. Hit New York and Katrina hidden also specifically New Orleans So I I I'm done. I'm sorry it was a good story nonetheless. It was good it was good. I assure you all the facts were true except for the name of the store except for the name of the storm. Yep All right well she we move on Yes to to Neyla we've gone through piqued her interest in the shop. Sean I actually did a thing. Oh you do the thing I did. A thing is the most menial simple thing and I was totally unexpected But I did get used woodworking tools and I made dust and shavings in the process of recreating remaking a rotten piece of trim. The piece I was replacing was rotten. I wasn't making rotten piece Of Anyway I walk into work guy that I work with Says Oh hey here and he hands me a pine board and a painted piece of trim. He said this was in my closet. It's rotten you can make this right sure. I went Okay so it was cut to with and it was as tall as he wanted it. It was basically a one by six piece but and it had a simple. I think it's called. It's not even a village style like just a really fair curve on the top edge of just return so it's a simple curve anyway But I had to thin it down which I use a combination of cross cutting rip saw. But I got like my mocks vice out. I got my veritas out. I got my spoke shave out. I got a little hand playing out. I made a thing and it's probably going to be painted and put inside a closet and never seen the light of day. It was a piece of trim. I just made a piece of trim. Just like literally was a rectangle that I made thinner and rounded one top corner tastic and I think even posted on instagram might posted in the process of doing just that as much as I can. Hold the tool and take a picture. We were all hoping it was rocket parts. I know Raga Parts. No sorry no rocket parts. It was this was legitimate pine to be painted at a later date not in my house but it was fun. I haven't used my spoke. Shaven years criticized maximize me. Oh Yeah Yeah. I've got a I got that old bench crafted thing when they brought that out God How many years ago is that. Oh Ten plus years ago Janet. Yeah I've got a big old eight quarter ashes labs hold that bite together and Or using as the jaws advice and I love that thing. It's it's great to do exactly what I did was which was was like rip cutting something because you can cut right down through it from the from the side and I just put it up on my bench like front because it's not tightening go. It doesn't bind on the curve. Does it no no? It really doesn't And the way I was doing a piece of small enough and I was using essentially dovetails on so they've barely two inches below the the the back of the saw the spine of the saw So I I kind of treated a corner with a cross cut then flipped the corner and treated the next corner with across cut and then try to connect those lines with cross got saw but now that was a rip cut so I brought the rip saw to connect those and just the feeling of of something like that which is very small. I mean this thing was was like six inches long and four inches. Wide is very small piece of wood that I'm working on and so the cut and it's a small saw that I'm using too but the switch to a properly sharpened rip saw that you can tell it is a legitimate row of chisels going right straight across. It was awesome like it. Just it aid I never worried about. Wavering off my line and it was just perfect. An orange accurate might be that accurate and so yeah and so to prove that point. I basically took. I took a three quarter inch board and made it five eighths and had would have had a solid piece of wood that I cut off it and I gave that back to. My coworker said here. You don't need this but I want to show you that I can do this. That's what I took off. It was there you go fun there you go. I used woodworking tools. Would you did woodworking? I did woodworking. That's more carpentry. Is Kinda Term Carpentry? Is that because it wasn't putting any more than one piece together. It was just shaping one piece pieces of small talk. I said look honey I can. This is what I do I make would smaller A. She wasn't impressed. What's in your shop? let's see. I guess a released some new Videos with my boring Jake because I had the production model which differed from the one. I released videos for earlier so I still go. One more video to Put Out there upright either do that tonight or tomorrow but The old videos. Yeah Yeah Yeah once I get this last one. I'm going to take some of the ones that I had up there down. So yeah because the ones before with the quote unquote pre production model and then when I actually produced in my inc a couple of design things that made it just a little bit easier to To us and the little Angle Gauge Setup Block That I came up with. I found some improvements on calibrating that to each individual boring jake so that became more accurate. So mother videos were Kinda obsolete which makes sense You know and so So I did those videos and so I'm been released from our know about every other day so I have one last one to release but It's you know and one of the things I did. Include in these videos is that you can now use the boring jig to ream holes and I think I talked about that on the last episode looking for source where Rimmer so and I think I said I did reach out to Lee Valley while I heard back from them and they're not taking any special orders but I was also disappointed that they were they were really forthcoming with. Tell me Yeah. We don't make to sir cells. There's another company makes but I couldn't get them to Tell me who that company was. Yeah I'm sure. He said it was overseas. I'm sure it's a Mate somewhere over in China and so I've been looking for local sources Quickly found out. I do not need a machinist needs one it grinds because something needs to be ground but I keep getting Getting some roadblocks here and there about people you know wants to tell them what I want like now. I don't work with high carbon steel. No I don't work with high carbon steel so I need to find somebody that works with our carbon steel. So still some more folks need to reach out to but I'll eventually find a source for easiest one guy local that Yeah I think I'm going to have some success with but he's just the kind of thing where users could provide their own rework. Do you need to sell the rumor with it as civic that it needs to fit properly or fit with the JIG I bought? Well the valley rumors at Twelve degrees included angle so each side is six degrees of the cone. Let's say so Most in other chair makers utilize that Roemer. There's some chair makers that utilize eleven degrees and honorary. Well it's something that My Dunbar You know the winds were instituted. Really Started Teaching Windsor chairs on twenty twenty twenty five years England. He is ornery and he started with the eleven degree Reamer but then most chair makers I know like your Peter Galbraith Carter's Buchanon Elia bizarre and they all use Six degrees warmer so three degrees outside in most of the people I know us six degree rumors. And those are the ones that you can buy from Elliot and Tim Manny. You know the wooden hand remorse and they're really nice so But to use this boring jake to Tarim holes or really need a medal. Rumor that can be used under drill. So that's the reason and the reason for me having been built at the six degrees is 'cause Used to that's what everyone has probably may be already have ten cutters for their legs six degrees. So you WanNa follow all that so so I just need to find a source and I've had a lot of DM's from folks going. Let me news. Soon as you find a source you know because a lot of people are using these These handwriting Merson. They're made out of These wouldn't Henry Merson rebate out of various materials. Maple instead of smart woods but they can still be somewhat problematic. When you're trying to reema a hardwood like an oak or something like that rather than you know your standard pine or poplar itself is still just a handle. We're talking about you know the whole machine. The whole rimmer is wooden. Has the blade in as a blatant. Yeah Yeah so. It's got a slot in the cone section. What they with the blade in there so yeah so you know I'm I'm still looking at Got A I got some. I got some folks need to follow up with And reach out to you so committed on finding one but it's just not finding a source for that. It's just not as quick as I thought it was going to be. So yeah I may have to be one of those guys that you know may have to do this up in In cat he'll probably send it over to you sean. It's Look Right. I think this is the. Is this the Andy Klein way of doing it? And it's like nobody makes it so I'm GonNa get myself pretty much so you know and I may have to reach out to some some of these Some of these offshore sources and see if they can make something but We'll see how that goes but on a brighter note which I post about on. Instagram is my stare at Combo Square so I think a post about hey. I found out that my twelve inch stare. Combo Square was out square. Wouldn't squaring more and I'd heard too. You know you could file down the little tabs to bring it back in square better. Really didn't want to do that. And so I reached out to a start and the guy asked me you know common issues. Hey you make sure nothing stuck in there and you know all that stuff instead. Yeah nothing stuck in there. It's never been dropped. You know stuff like that. So it's like we'll send the head back to me so I did and Within three days I got the head back perfectly fixed ready to go and I I thought they just replaced the head with the new one I finally looked in there went now. That's dirt that was probably there before so I'm pretty sure this is my head but they definitely polished it up a little bit. So we're we're we're charge except for the shipping whereas staring where learn send that? Oh you would ask me until weird. Name it's northeast. It's in the Boston Northeast. Okay Yeah let's see. I'm just curious because a three day turnaround is pretty good because you presume it to a day there. Yeah well I mean once they got it it was even so that Yeah I mean what I'm saying is it didn't said on the show for anything like the LS start companies headquartered in Alpha Massachusetts. Yep Okay I knew his name name but yeah for I don't know cost me six six bucks or some dissenters up there but yeah so big shoutout to them for you. Know that's excellent customer service and when they send it back guy included a bunch of cool stickers as well as some like apron sized Charts for a taps and stuff so I mean that's what they are as as much as woodworkers love that company. That is a machinist machinist true and true -Chusetts sure historically when you think about like the last century Massachusetts was the foundation of machinery in machining in the country. Okay New England was quite frankly but it's the heart of New England. Yeah and he didn't know whether I use it for metalworking woodworking her whatnot so yeah so so. Yeah so big shot to them. So that's great so I need to buy more stuff from you've earned by business sir. Business no I do have too many things from them but anyway on another note since I have been making these These demo videos I've had to make a number of C. blanks to drill out currently at four see planks that are fully drilled out and so. I needed turn these. He blinks into chairs so. I've been contemplating that and think it was Saturday. on Instagram Windsor chairs by Dan. Dan posted out there that. And he's a Windsor Chair maker out of Maine and he posted that he was selling spindles and I you know fully roughed out ready to do the fun part. Which is you know. Turn them around and shaping them so they're fully roughed out in talk tugging all shape and it's like how much you want form was. How would you need a win? Thirty BUCKS APIECE. Free Shipping. I went sold for one hundred fifty bucks. I got I spindles arrived yesterday. Great condition and and It was great so you know thirty five bucks. A CHIRP for spindles can be that that sounds fantastic. But let me ask you there for main part of the country. You're you're both very humid environments. Are they okay? To have a warped they move. No no no You know there cut up on the grain so none of them are GONNA be dead straight but will be a few that that'll go in one direction or another. That's just part of the business because our cut along the grain unnecessarily to be straight but to be even with the grain parallel with the grain. So yeah there they ran. They came in fantastic condition so radio. Yeah so Anita need to reserve some time on the Shave Horse and get busy and speaking of building these shares have been thinking about a new fixture for my bench Kind of like a poor man's high by I guess really. Yes I've been thinking now for chair making what I do when I'm saddling the seat and I think I saw Chris wars do. This is a basically a two by four. And a screw it to the underside of your seat and I do it between the two front leg holes and then use that in a bias to secure the sea and that works great But I would like know when you do that on a bench rise especially your your front buys. It's Kinda hard to get around. All three sides of the chair seat so to speak. So what I'm thinking about doing is building a small auxiliary bench. They will attach to the top of my current dench in on the end of it. Have a quick release vice which. I happen to have just sitting around doing nothing. Small quick release vice so thinking about just Putting something together probably at a two by four you know just like you would have benchtop laminates to outdoors on edge. are Faced with the edge up eliminate enough of those to Go across my One End of my bench which you know my benches in two different sections and each section is about eleven and a half inches wide so For one of those sections and then stick out enough To put that Buys on and they're not can use that to be able to secure the chair and it'll be a little higher which will be a little bit more. Ergonomic should be able to get around all sides of the like and should be able to. Do you know secure the actually blank in the seats to carve the underside a hand of the Seton Hall Types of uses. You would do for that while a concern is if you pull into hard with draw nigh when you're trying to like put a champ for on the underside of seat. Is that going to be two four out to kind of cantilever the bench. So that's only concern. I have right now but you make enough seats or went once. You're what you have the Jamaican under control and you return to seats. You make enough chairs that a full new hire bench is worthy as opposed to a picture that fits on your bench. Well Yeah I'm sure I was thinking about the picture fit on. My bench would never be moved once it gets on there but Yeah I have thought about doing an entire separate bench just for doing saddling seats backed. Curtis Buchanan has plans for that type of bench and Out there They're free if memory serves correct on his website but I'm sort of running out of space. My shop for something like that. I know I don't need another extra bench so you know yeah I know I know I know I do like to walk around occasionally in my shop and pace back and forth so that would cut into that space but So I thought I'd just try this out and see how it works and might be something I'll share out there if if it does work so that anyone that has one of those split top. Rubio's or Those type of benches in my work form appreciate that kind of fixture like as we're doing this. I'm looking longingly at my carving bench. Which has a vice attached to the front of it? And it's the toll. Small Bench like the bright dovetail bench set Shannon made years and years ago and I think I probably got about three months use out of it before it got buried behind his entertainment center that it's still hidden behind. It was just such a joy to used for carving right. It's so yes you should make. You should make a bench fixture though there's probably marketable you're right there but for your own use. Make A standalone taller bench. You'll fit it in somewhere you'll love it. Yeah Yeah I'll probably end up there but I was just new Linden. But Ben let me try this. No this is nothing I would sell her or or sell plans for might be so much. Share out there and go. Hey here's what I did and see if it works so but with that Diani what's in your shop shop. Listeners will find it hard to believe. But I have the Milwaukee. Mt Fuel three eighths inch installation Jill driver in my shop. I know compared to the festival drills. It's better worth buying hold on. No let me go get my you keep talking. I'm going to go get my My boss rolls and we can put yourself okay right back and I am as we share before I'm not going to rehash it but I'm mediocre Lee impressed by its but I will admit that for the last hour. It's been fun to play with him. My hands while we're talking and for anyone who checks the Mater Woodworks Association Story. You can see how the grip works and the offset head. But that's unfortunately that's about all that's been going on in my shop. I used it to fix. Some flagpole stands recently and that's the extent of my recent woodworking but that's all being said Kyle. I believe in your shop or perhaps in the kitchen above your shop you have some Texas spring water. I do that. That's my beverage of choice today. Texas Spring Water So we have A. We have been bent to go tomorrow so I didn't really want to Blow up anything but we're still like fifty fifty or whether we're going to go to this event so well it's kind of a little It's the Little Saint Patrick's Day get together. That was planned. And we're still debating whether we're GONNA go or not based on yourself but I decided if we do decide to go then you know. I figured I'd just do my drinking tomorrow fair enough you're able to enjoy yourself endemic free. Yes yes oh what. Oh that is funny. Is You know I was thinking about this? The other day is with. The pandemic woodworkers are readily prepared for this. We do most of us. Have the respirator with the one hundred filters and gloves. And you know Turner's got the full face mask so I was thinking about if I do go tomorrow. Showing up wearing a respirator and gloves. Sure the respirator at least breathing. Your crap air. That's right. No No. We're as podcasters. We are also uniquely outfitted to not be in close contact with each other as we had this conversation. Yes the we are free of transferring anything we may be carrying. I know. Is it Pretty Fancy Mike. It might transmit. I think I'd say Mike I have an eighteen or twenty one hundred. I've got an. At are something. I I know we both have. Etr Sean how easily a higher number? It must be better than it must be bad. Remember Anyway yes. I haven't rode cast appro. I don't well. Well ask since you don't have a road Castro Sean. To at least have a beer. You drink do so. This was a little bit of looking forward to getting the hell out of town for spring break next week. Hopefully should the world not closed down in the next eight days? Where you're going down in Florida. Oh here in Florida outside of Fort Meyers okay because cigar cities from Tampa. And I was GONNA say if you're actually going to Tampa you need to give Tom Hogan and contaminated. No but I do have rough plans right now to go to Tampa in November. Oh may look Tom at that point. Although I'm going with my wife and friends without kids so alone time might be more. Tom Has met my wife. It's okay okay. Other many ways I take a sip of it the Picked up as you alluded to Cigar City Brewing Company which oddly is available in northwest Ohio in winter like they I think so But this is the the the Guevara Citra Pail so sits hops right in it and really nice You know not not not an ip by any means it's just a pale. It's got a little bit of that citra flavor to it. It's really really good. Excellent Heady topper boy as you have alluded to. I am drinking what I would consider to be the the Og of Dank Beers. It is the alchemist. Heady topper as best. I am aware is only available in Vermont. It's good it's very good. It's not great but it is very good And it is as far as I'm concerned. The definition of a Dank New England. Ipa It is. It is the New England and it's wonderful And I have friends who were in Vermont a couple weeks ago and I've actually been in Vermont since then but I wasn't able to pick me up but they brought some back for me and it was wonderful so Drinking the last of them And it's it's just the life I would highly recommend if any was not sure what we mean. When referring to a Dank New England I get yourself some alchemists specifically the heady topper and you will know this is the definition of that so I have to. I've never had that. But there is a Michigan brewery that on its escaping the there is one version. That's an m forty three and they have a double that something else. And that is the Dan. I've had ever Jordan. Because I've not had that you've had this so I don't really care them to each other But all the more reason for you to come to find woodworking live twenty twenty one. That's right mark your calendars now should should. We'll see if my marathon doesn't get postponed till then you could run all the way to good. I guess I am so sorry when I stepped away. I I got that drill in that grill. Go that's similar but mines in eighteen. Volt some both of these are eighteen votes but this one is the old Bosh Brute. Eighteen volt can you hear how tired that is? It's sleepy and and this is this is actually the impacter little much smaller grip by the way. The handles are completely different between the two tools. But that's a that's a twisted. My Hand High Torque little Little jobbies listeners. That was Milwaukee twelve tower. And you know what I like. I said I push it with my index finger to go forward thumb to go Yup Mike. God intended check out the the. Mata Woodworkers Association instagram story where I showed the push button on the top of this one and the light in the fluorescent lit garage right now is easily visible but I promise you. It is not visible in daylight. Is that the one that my wife liked it could be. It was a story and I didn't see notification from her. Oh maybe stories you posted a video of your your your scroll saw. No no in your the commenting about the microphones. Yes that was. That was my pre podcast huber. There you go. I'll listen to that later. All I can say good taste there. You go when I was when you were posting that I was picking up pizza actually. We're trying to figure out dinner there. You go yeah me too late. Holy Crap Diabe. I got home from work. I Fed my children. I took care of them and I cannot hear that podcast. Yeah I was in. The shop came up and went. Oh crap and apple and a muffin and that's probably why I'm so punchy and I'm on my fourth beer how about you. I'm only on my second second water for me that with all that fun information for the listeners Working folks find you on the interwebs Diani. Well I can be found at penultimate WOODSHOP DOT com. I can be found at the park on twitter. Allegedly according to this In the show notes you can find me on facebook. You can find me Panova which hop on instagram. Find me a beer on untapped and two hours and five minutes into the podcast. You can find me talking about where you saw sean. How are you Oh I'm Ashley. W Seventy eight or just. Shawna eight on most social medias including untapped and instagram. So you can find me there kyle. How about you? Well you can always find me. Bart Dog Colin Instagram. The only social media platform and that just about wraps up this show. If you haven't already please subscribe to this show on the Pod catcher of your choice just search for the Workers Association there. You'll never miss any of our exciting episodes like this one while you're there. Please leave us a review if you're listening to US odds are you're subscribed if you're one of the people who are listening without subscribing. Get off your butt and subscribe police but assuming you're one of the people who have subscribed you know another woodworker in person. Maybe only one depending on where you are. You don't have a local guild. It's rather Isolating and Solitary Hobby but talk to the other guy you know or the Galliano or the youth you know and tell them to subscribe please because what could be better than two hours six minutes and forty two seconds of us just kind of meandering about our interpersonal relationships and power tools So all that being said Kyle. I'm lost this is really terrible. I apologize you're lost. You're done did you. Did you give your you did community? So you did outgoing thing. Yes so then our done cut all this out and I will simply end with the fact that one of the least appreciated cordless power tools is the cordless heat gun which if all you do is make rectangular furniture you will find no use for but if you use a poxy or die or like to shape plastic parts the cordless He'd gun is a really cool tool and since it doesn't have to connect to a vacuum makes complete sense. The only cordless tool in my shop drill.

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Life Things with Maquita Donyel Podcast + Episode Zero

Life Things with Maquita Donyel

18:28 min | 6 months ago

Life Things with Maquita Donyel Podcast + Episode Zero

"Whatsoever I hope everyone is having a glorious day or start to their day and I pray that you are feeling Oh protected and I just pray peace and wisdom clarity guidance over your heart mind spirit soul that get staff. I am excited to get into this podcast with you. Also where they're very very very very first time ever. Let's go ahead and roll that intro. Hey guys this is Makita Danielle of Polish pistol. And you have reached my podcasts life. Being here we talk about the things that happen in life whether it be up sir down for moments in our lives that feel like they're gone sideways else importantly here we are safe here. We are free and authenticity is the name of the game dude. I have podcast and this is going to be a what's puts a puts puts up also. This is episode zero. What that means is that I'm just going to give you all a bit of insight into I am mcdonagh Yelp Ersan and what life things is all about to give some of this insight into me into the lightning's podcast. I'm going to answer a few questions. Question number one was life things. What is it going to be about? And why did you start it? So the reason why I started this podcast to take those conversations that were happening behind the scenes and in private on my couch and the coffee room and my in the coffee shop the coffee room girl and the coffee shop in you know various living rooms their these intimate in real conversations being had between myself and other women and other people in general right and that's the reason why I started Polish Pool Dot Com. And that's the reason why I'm starting this to create another space that allows for real conversations to be had about real life things and not have it not have the conversation a perfect way But in an authentic way in a way that is sincere in real incomes from that deep place that a lot of people are afraid to go to because it's hard to find safe spaces and safe people to have these conversations with and to have these moments with okay. We need words and conversations and discussions that add to us as people as individuals and as people functioning in this society with others as friends and family members and parents rate as individuals with a purpose on this earth. We need that Seoul stuff. Nah just the funds surface. I shouldn't even say fun but not even just like the stuff like candy tastes really really good at first and it burns off really really fast. You need something that will sustain you through this life as a person. And that's why things here at third part of that question What is it going to be about? It's about life things so it's not confined to acing topic. It is Underneath the Polish pistol brand umbrella and the posh whistle brand is all about the empowerment of women be support in recognition of women in so be bases of life. Beings will be that These specific topics discussed within that things that happen in life outside of that it can't necessarily be categorized in eating this happening in my life or the lives of those that I interact with and I find that it is useful to share. It's going to be shared and it's going to be discussed next quest Yeong. Why start a podcast now? I had been told for awhile like are you a podcast. Like by the areas. Close Friends of mine. But I didn't really make sense for me. I wasn't really sure I mean I loved having these conversations. You know disconnecting for a very brief time on a deep in Genuine level. I Love I. Love interactions like that Yeah but I was kind of like I don't know about committing because something like that because I usually have a lot of other stuff going on and then too. It's like I don't want to just be talking to be talking What really kind of pushed the podcast for now is the fact that I resigned from a full time position and I was realizing like. There's no blueprint for this in. A lot of people discuss their failures after they've already succeeded and not while they're going through it and it can be very daunting when you're going through it. It can be scary when you're making decisions. You know out of faith and not having any physical tangible thing in front of you and in my experience they can pull very alone because you are truly relying completely and totally on the voice the Holy Spirit to lead you and so it's not necessarily a person that is giving you instructions on what to do next and as much as you want your closest friends. Sandra Dan what it is that you're going through really. You can only hope that they support what you're going through in your to end the decisions that you're making even when they don't make logical sense fear personally. Me worried that utilizes their planner. I L- I love stability. I love planning means out and the type of person that creates itinerary for their vacations Wasn't always necessarily that way but I grew into that and so then to have learned that in picked up that and saw that it was working and to have to go back and because I was over planning I got angle back in like risk at all as a as a single mom at like. It's no joke. It's real out here so I just wanted to make sure that I also allowed espace talks about the very just real things that happen in life and talk about it in a real way and talk about it while it's happening as opposed to ten years ago. I made this decision to do such and such in. This is what I did to get through you. Know so that is what essentially relea- 'em led this whole aac putting out life things. This is not how to hot cast. This is me is simply speaking off my own experience and encouraging those that are invited to this show to do the same to speak from a deep and authentic place when talking about or when discussing the various topics at hand. I don't believe in keeping all sorts of things to myself. You know I want to provide Every bit of kind of advice or whatever that I'm given through my experience and through the conversations with others I wanNA give that to people that can use it otherwise I feel as though you know this is kind of pointless like people on Earth. I believe that we're here to do life together. That people in the other people get through it and so I'm not gonNA keep to myself struggles or wins when it can be beneficial to somebody else and that's the basis of me. Starting life things question number three. What topics are you going to discuss? The podcast life things thing going to be limited to a certain range of topics or to certain topics going to cover various things. And that's that's exactly why it's called life things because that covers so many things all based in women and all the things that we go through and deal with interact with and overcome and just need to openly talk about a safe space that encourages Acceptance in Anders standing authenticity. But in a way that is up intake but not judgmental and not negative last question. Why are many things that I do? Based in the empowerment of women. I noticed at the age of eight years old. That women were being treated differently simply because they were women and that they had to deal with a lot of things that they were not given tools or support or advocates to help them through the things they were going through and validate the things they were going through so a little bit about me. I am a single mom of a middle schooler. And she is the most amazing child on the Yup I know we all think that I love Molo garage the most important relationship to me in my life and it's motivation for a lot of the things that I do I being becoming a single mom and getting out of an unhealthy relationship to Pursuing my goals and my dreams wanting my daughter to see life in a way that is more His bigger that allows her her dreams and her visions to be fully accessible. I WANNA create a life for her. Faith is a norm in that something. That's so terrifying to keep doing over and over again but it's just the thing that you do And so through that and through her just excitement and belief in the things that I do and I put out in her at pride and the things that I do in put out a is extremely motivating Yeah she's truly a gem. I am a follower of Jesus. Christ he is the Homie Eerie. Emma College graduate. I graduated with an English major journals emphasis with the fashion merchandising minor. I chose that path Originally I wanted to be a journalist in countries where women didn't have voice and once. I decided that I wanted to have a family. I also decided that being in a situation like that wasn't something that I was willing to do to possibly create A family without a mom But I still want it to be able to connect women install give women without a voice voice and so I stuck with that Major. Change my minor to fashion merchandising. Because it's another way that I express myself and connect with others especially women. I was given an opportunity to intern in New York. I became pregnant with my amazing daughter my Sophomore Year of college and therefore decided not to pursue Vat internship and instead about down At my school so that I could get through my bachelor's degree without taking any time off I am also a drum roll. Please a Leo Sun. A Leo Moon any Sagittarius raising. I mean that's just the best combination their gods but his magic on that Dir. I am also a Army Brat was born overseas. I moved around quite a bit in the. Us I I own I mean. What else do people want it now? Any need like okay. Let's go into a segment Moi. What's that smell? Something good so like other things I think would be useful so yes. I mentioned earlier. I started a blog called Polish. Postal DOT com. That's Polished Po L. I. S. H. E. P. I S. T. I L Like v Pistol of a full hour concert blog quite some time ago a long time ago. Maybe like it's terrible. I don't know how old my blog is Paul. Bobi Oh when they want to be written. My favorite may favorite parts of Polish was calm is interviewing various women across country in the world And it's called pistol. It was called pistol of the month. Two featured pistol and it features women. Just doing the doggone thing I find their stories to be practical and inspiring relatable so those stories up there to inspire others to pursue what it is their purpose and their passions are other thing is I am published. Arthur Arthur Arthur. That is the character on the show called. Arthur I'm not that I am a published author and I have completed two books out of three E. or a poetry and short stories series. It's called stories of a Polish pistol with the first book subtitle being lace Ruffles. B-best second book subtitle being unpaved. The first book has three book trailers that I directed and and really dope local artists contribute to. I would say the best thing about those books outside of being able to connect with people and other parts of the world that I otherwise wouldn't have connected with other band people telling me that they didn't start loving poetry until I started reading my poetry which Sidebar just reminds me to remind you that when even directive to do something just do it because poetry was not by any means a plan or an idea that I had been having for many years but the things that you decide to do affect others And they can help others. So don't sit on it but yeah other than it being featured and cool things like Fedex Amsterdam women and on cool blog sites under people's captions other van it being featured in a scholarly book by a professor out in the Mid West. I would say the thing about creating. These projects was the opportunity to collaborate with other artists. I mean it was just so much fun in so much positive and positive in real. I'm happy to be here. Energy was truly wasn't competitive. It was in self seeking it was all to serve the final project the final piece and for that. I am forever inspire to continue collaborating with other. Do genuine positive filled with light artists. And so I do want to take a minute to just mention a few of those. Most of them are local. We have the photographer who did my photos. Actually not for this purpose but I did use it for my books. Her name is Alexa Jim. Now Avila's she is one of my best friends. The book cover designer is Janelle Jordan. She is also one of my best friends. Bro. I know like I got some. I know. I know the video for the first three trailers. They were directed by me however they were very nicely professionally created and edited in And more by a personnel name of David sharp the actors and actresses and the film were also very close friends with the exception of One of the guys that played in the book trailer number three but the two women in our dash to and Jocelyn pollute show. Amazing friends very talented women. That is really gave their all so that other people could enjoy it and get a true sense of the book the music producer. His name is Justin Grant. He was a pleasure to work with. He understood what it is what it was that I was looking for the sounds that I wanted and he provided those to me. Please do be sure to check out. All of these artists be other artists as photographer. That took the pictures for my second book on. Amazon. Dot Com. Her name is Nadia Narcorda. She was either talk actually at my best friend's wedding doing her very first wedding. She is just insanely talented and she did. The photographs for the unpaved book. It was yeah just a lot of dough people to contribute to those projects and the third one there will be more dope artists to contribute that. To in fact I plan to have Janelle do the third cover. I think she'll learn that while. Listening to this podcast. She'll find this part maybe slightly enjoyable. Yeah well guys that brings us to the end of our very first episode. I am so glad to have you all here with me and yeah check out the next one. I hope you enjoyed it. Most of our. I'm very happy with the and at the end of the day matters only because when it's real and when this offensive and we get happy with what you're putting there and is rooted in your it's bound to connect with those needs connect with it and I'm grateful for the opportunity to create an connect with you. This is life things with Makida Danielle of Polish pistol. You can follow me on social media at mcwhirter Don yell or that's on Instagram. Feast will get CETERA. You can follow future blog posts in check out the blog post on Polish pistol dot com and se on the next episode episode by.

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E408 Wellness Week Day 1 | Back To The Basics

15 Minutes to Freedom: A Warrior’s Daily Focus on Journals and Meditations

32:20 min | 1 year ago

E408 Wellness Week Day 1 | Back To The Basics

"This is fifteen minutes of freedom. I'm your host elite life, optimization. Coach Ryan idell and today is day one of wellness week here on fifteen minutes of freedom over the seven days. I'm going to share with you, practical and tactical tips, as pertains to your health and wellness inside the body quadrant of your life. So here we are number one. I don't know that I've ever covered in indepth basis, practical things that don't cost you money or don't cost you much money, as pertains your health and wellness. Right. I've covered the dark glasses that I wear cover the Juve red light. That's in front of me photo by modulating all this all this crazy stuff. Might have even covered some cold showers before. But that's that's all more towards the biohacking side of my opinion. Now with a heightened sense of awareness. It is my belief system. The biohacking is actually just a way to return back to how we used to operate as humans. Generations, and generations and generations ago, evolutionary speaking, when we were walking around outside in nature when the sun went down, we held up around a campfire we found warmth with the people that we around. We've mentioned fell asleep. More than likely when the sun rose we woke up. Showers. Weren't really thing if we were to clean ourselves off, it was probably because we found a stream maybe lake maybe a waterfall and oddly enough that water wasn't very warm more than likely. Probably rather cold. So you think about the blue light adaptation. Right. I'm sitting in an office right now with over headlights, there was no blue light. Back in the prehistoric times. Right. Cavemen time. The red light, that would be initiated wants a son went down was natural light based off a fire being created. Yes. And I know before you start picking on me through Email, or direct messages fire came about at some point are ever luminary journey. I'm not implying that every caveman had fire. Right. Just just work with me in the generalities here. But does it look at all that we do to death out blue light and increase red light? And to reset our circadian rhythm, right? That's a rhythm in which our bodies. No one to sleep in one to wake up. It's no wonder in modern day society that we are seeing a plethora of health issues that weren't previously there. Now, the counterpart to that the counterpoint to that is, of course, that people are living longer, right? How is that possible? Our health and our longevity is greater now than it's ever been before. In the past, I believe it's fifteen years, it might even be twenty I'll even say it's fifty our life expectancy has increased by more than thirty years in eastern civilization. I'm sorry, western civilization. That's impactful. Right. So we can look at big pharma, we can look at all the things we have access to all the resources. Sure we're living longer. But as a quality in caliber of life, that we're living as a greater now than it used to be. I'll leave that up for you to decide. But I wanna get into today some some very basic things. That will help you start to create a framework to have a body that feels operates better. Cover all of this stuff in a much more in-depth manner in the book that I have been writing that has taken different iterations. That will be called the life optimization guide that I have committed to have completed by the end of July. Why go through a whole plethora of things? Right. It's gonna be a call like a field manual for how to live the most optimize life from all the knowledge I have at this point, citing resources and references case studies. Testimonials everything I can find. But I wanna talk about his dieting. What you put in your body to fuel that goes in your mouth. I mean think about that right now. You've listened to this more than likely at this moment you have either just eaten. You can remember the last meal or you're currently looking forward to your next meal. Have you ever thought about that for a second? Western civilization. The majority of our day is calibrated around calendar and a schedule that is only concerned with where next Meal's coming from. I say this as I am now the better part of twenty four hours into another fasting protocol. Going through fast as a lot more than just a body recalibration to me, as a recalibration mentally about the control that food has over me, or now doesn't have over me. I mean, think about all the ways that we show up in the world as far as pertains a diet. And how difficult it is. When you pass by MacDonald with your window down in the summer, not to smell that quote unquote, cheeseburger that brings you back to your youth. I love going to McDonald's and getting the double cheeseburgers, the fries, the coke sprite was my thing not coke much. Maybe some nuggets sweet and sour sauce. And if I was super good and lucky when I was a kid, you could get that little tiny ice cream cone, that they gave to you almost for free. I loved it. But when the windows down in the summer, you can smell that smell, it's so difficult not to pull in. There's a good chance. You yourself have pulled into one of those spots. If not today, or yesterday, certainly in the past month, just to typically speaking, there's a reason why McDonald's has served billions of people across the planet. Whatever they put in their quote unquote, burger whatever smells they pump into the air trigger response inside of us. Don't they? Maybe it's not fast food, right? Maybe that's not true thing. I get it. It's not mine. It's been the better part of. Seventeen months now since I've had a fast food meal. My choice, not an ivory tower thing. Just want us are doing the research on what actually goes into what we call to be food from those restaurants. I decided that wasn't for me. Japan is about as far out the windows, I go. And even they've had their own health issues here in Columbus. Inappropriate ways to cook food and all types of things. But you think about when you go to a restaurant, how difficult is it for you? Not to order an appetizer. When you don't feel like cooking and you go to that restaurant. How difficult is it for you to eat the healthy things on the menu to push away, the French fries and get a salad or broccoli? To stay away from desert. To not grab the alcohol because why wouldn't you, it's social? In western civilization. We've now treated food like it's a social experiment. It's a social thing you want to have a business meeting. Where do you go? Out for coffee. Let's grab lunch together, or let's talk about it over drinks and dinner. Are you kidding me? What if just for a second, you considered food to be fuel, and it was no different than going to the gas station? Right. You don't care how the gas smells it goes in your car. You care about how makes your car perform. You're not saying to your business partner or potential client. Let's meet at the gas pump and discuss some business. Why? Because it's just fuel. It becomes almost automatic right? You take the handle out, you put it in the hole in the side of your car. You pick what sort of octane you want. And then you put it in. There's even debates around that right in every car that I've owned for the past three years, both luxury and luxury right now. I drive a pickup truck. An American made pickup truck. Every time I go to the gas, mom. I am forced to make decision between three qualities of gas three different octaves. Typically, it's a hybrid of eighty seven or eighty nine and ninety one and ninety three right? Some sort of variation of those four. There was a version of me died, a long time ago that always went for the cheapest. Do you feel the same way like I'm just gonna put the cheap stuff in the car? Why wouldn't I need to save the twenty cents a gallon? I understand. What happens when you start changing that? And you put the belief system in that the quality of food, or fuel you put in your car will determine the longevity of that car, just like it. Does your body and average tank right? I drive a truck, I have an eighteen gallon tank when it's almost all the way I'm. Extra twenty cents a gallon. Right. Again, I'm not a mathematician, but let's just call another four bucks per Philip. Let's fill up once a week. Over the course of a year actually two hundred eighty bucks. For putting the top end gas in my car. Versus the entry level. So that becomes a value proposition value question that I- instill upon myself like. Is it really worth two hundred eighty bucks? To have to give my truck or my car the greatest opportunity for success. Yes. One hundred percent. Would no question. Because that same mindset on such monotonous thing. Right. Think of how many times you fill gassing in the past month. More than likely at least twice. But that monotonous decision that seemingly simple press one the buttons on the gas pump decision. When you start instantly pressing the most expensive one. What do you think starts to happen to your brain? When you go to the grocery store. And your face with about what you put in your body. Do you think you go for the least expensive, or you think you'll for the stuff? That's the highest quality. What about when you go out to eat? You think you put the garbage in the fried food, the nonsense? You think you start putting in the stuff that knew, you know, is going to give you energy? It's my belief system. You're probably gonna pick within the gives you energy, which is what I'm going to talk about today. Is he as we look at diets majority of wants to do one of two things lose weight or gain muscle? Right. I mean that's, that's really a simple as this comes down to if you're a little, overweight man, I would like to tone up. And if you're on the underside you like man, I'd like to get stronger to get bigger. When will let you on incredible secret. Forget every diet. You've ever heard for second. Forget paleo forget Kito, forget caveman forget, whatever. The different fad things are right. There are so many fads. I I don't and fat is, is not even a proper term, those these diet. Ideologies that come in waves like I'm Makita athletes. Seems to be a big thing right now. Right. High fat high protein, no carbs beautiful. Let's talk about effort second. There is something that you have inside of you right now called your resting metabolic rate. If you do not know what that is. I encourage you to write it down in Google, it, don't take my word for any of this stuff side note, I'm not a licensed dietician or nutritionist, I just happen to have done a freakish amount of research on how this works and been my own Guinea pig for the past fourteen years. So you're resting metabolic rate is the number of calories, give or take, plus or minus that are required for you to function exactly as you sit under normal circumstances. Normal circumstances. Don't include working out. They don't include high stress. I don't include low sleep. They include for you just basically exist under a mildly sanitary load. You have a resting metabolic rate. That is what is required for you to live. It's different for men and women is different based off ages. It's different based off of internal bodily functions. It's different based off Israel fat. There are different resting metabolic rates for all of us. I share that with you, because there's a high probability that when you, quote unquote, jump into Kito service, where eating high protein and high fat. All you are simply doing is putting yourself in Colorado deficit, meaning your resting metabolic rate. What it's required. Have you sustain life? You're eating less calories per day than that number. You do that for a long enough period of time. Your body says, oh man, what am I going to do? I'm burden through more more gas in the tank right now. I'm gonna turn to the reserves. I'm turn to my liver and process, the glycogen or store carbohydrates, that are there for energy. And once that gets expelled I'm gonna go ahead and turn to my muscles. And I'm pulled him out of there. And then also depending on the load, I might turn to some muscles. Well, I gotta do something I gotta keep this thing alive. And so you start to lose weight. But over time our bodies do this crazy thing. They always seek homeo- stasis. Homeo- stasis being something that is consistent for your body in which it just quote unquote levels out. It's my personal belief system that homo stasis can be found in most of us in about a seventy two maybe ninety six our load many if you eat the same thing, the same time of day onto the same stress, same sleep, the same variables what you were doing will not be as offensive or efficient at either burning fat or building muscle after a ninety six hour window. She got to change himself up, we'll cover that in a future episode or say high level right now. Kito. You're eating less calories than you need to, to sustain life over period of time you lose weight, typically people's hearts, man, you'll great. What are you doing differently? Man. I'm Kito right now. I get the cheese and red meat and all the great stuff MCAT oils on everything. I'm a machine right now. I've never felt so clear. Fantastic. But eventually gain stop. Right. And the games can be losing weight can be considered a gain. Right. You're, you're not officially burning fattening longer because your body's used to this now. And so what happens? While your thyroid function changes. By Royd what puts out? Pumps out hormones in your body Tump regulate your metabolic rate. It's a conversion from T three to t- four. Or maybe it's vice versa again. I'm not scientifically based all this is my own research. And so what happens is now your metabolic rate slows down. To reach new Cal Radic load. Not only have you lost weight. So the calories required have decrease, but your body lost, like man. I'm just not getting enough. You'll I've met a ratchet all this down. Your fat loss starts decrease. So what most of us do we take away more calories if it worked to start with. I'm just gonna start cutting back on calories. I'll get the poppy started again. What happens? Have you been there before yourself? Nothing. If anything you actually start to put on weight, and you get frustrated and confused. Why is this happening to me? I'm doing everything right at work before. It's not working now. What gives? Well gives the fact of your body is convinced that it's not going to get enough food in the future for fuel. So it takes what you eat. And it stores it caveman style once again what happens in old times, right? We'll go back to this imaginary caveman situation as you're walking around with your tribe, or maybe you're hunting, sabertooth Tigers or woolly mammoths or whatever you're eating back then. I don't care if it was nuts and fruit. At some point, the food storage is around. You are no longer there. You've depleted the resources. So maybe it's a day or two or a week, but you're gonna have to go ahead and beat feet. You have to go out and walk and find somewhere new. To pillage for new food. Our bodies are set up to be adaptable to that type of environment. It's an genealogy. It's how wired. So near starving yourself on college. Your body's used to this thousands of years, it's built into it so stores, everything it's just getting prepared. So let's talk about what I would do differently, or at least encourage you to consider. Instead of winging it on diet. What if you got scientific use data and facts to help you make an educated decision. That is what I encourage every client to do on some of our first phone calls. The body is to me, one of the most important quadrant of this whole game that we play called life. Because if you don't treat it, right. Your life decreases. The total time. If you don't treat it, right. The quality of life decreases, if you don't treat it, right? Your energy levels decrease and nothing else can be done as officially. First thing I encourage every client to do is find something called. Deca. Skein. D. A. C. A. N. An Dexsa scan or a water submerging tank either or not both are currently some of the most sophisticated body fat measuring systems known to man. Water displacement being number one. Right. As a scientific as possible Dexsa scan being number two. Then from there there's all these new devices. Right. There's you might have seen an in body scan where you stand on the scale looking thing and you hold two handles on passing electric current through your body. And it tells you how much fat you have you might have seen the little hand-held device that some gyms have, right? It's a small version with two little handles the readout on it. You might have even seen in some gyms, little fat, calipers pincher fat on seven specific parts of your body. They do a formulaic expressionless. You have this much body fat. Those are in descending. Order in my opinion of efficiency. She find yourself. Decks can and you pay the hundred one hundred fifty bucks. You're gonna have to invest in yourself. I don't have stock index scan don't have agreement with them. Love to have one of the guys on the show, whoever created that I would love to have you on here chat with you. If you happen to know somebody in that field have them reach out to me. I'm fascinated how they came up with the psychology. By laid on the table this game your body, and they give you this out. Pronounce house you bunch of stuff. Body fat estimated visceral fat. Balance between the left and right side of your body, the top and the bottom. And the most important factor. You're resting metabolic rate. But even that alone in my opinion is still not quite yet enough to make the most educated decision about how to calibrate a die for you. There's one more variable. I would encourage you typically in the same testing facility to get a veto to max reading done as well. That's basically amount of oxygen, your blood can carry any given moment that's going to determine the efficiency of blood flow. The efficiency of your body's ability to process oxygen and CO two right? Would you exhale out and it's also going to give you its own metabolic rate process, you when you combine those two together and take an average. Now you've almost got it dialed into something that can be specific. Crazy, right? Science data facts. No fiction here, only facts. And so you take these numbers. And you get. Something you get some variable. Let's say you have a resting metabolic rate of twenty five hundred calories a day. Pretty simple. Number. From there. Let's say you exercise. And you exercise mildly hard and you're in there for about an hour. More than likely. I don't give shit with the treadmill says, I don't care what your heart rate, monitor says, I don't care about any of that for the average person you're somewhere between two and four hundred calories. Let's just average three hundred calories. I can then say that moment in time your metabolic rate which required. That day is twenty eight hundred calories. I'm making super simple. If you want to lose body, fat decreased the amount of calories, you eat per day by two hundred. Yep. Two to three hundred calories consistently for a couple of days. Artsy a change you want to increase muscle mass, not only you have to work out hard gonna have to tear down muscle. The need with a little bit of a surplus little of access maybe one hundred and fifty extra calories a day. Now it's my personal belief system that if you look at total, Colorado, load, you should be twenty percent of your calories, maybe twenty five percent more heavily weighted towards protein. So I'm a share with you. Some more numbers real quick. If you don't have a pen out, you might wanna grab one every gram protein has four calories. Meaning ever gram protein that you eat takes four calories of expenditure of your body to burn it. Teases fuel carbohydrates. Also have four calories associated with them fat on the other end has nine calories associated with it. Four four nine. So let's say out of the twenty five hundred calories need. Let's say you wanna lose weight your burden twenty eight hundred calories. You're any twenty five hundred make it super simple. Let's say twenty percent of that you want to be protein, five hundred calories. Divided by four because protein is four calories. It's one hundred twenty five grams of protein a day. It's just that simple Sar with, how do you get a hundred twenty grams of protein you might ask you have to look at the back of food containers? You have to figure it out. A little bit of mathematics, you're gonna want to spread it out over meals that are allowing three to four hours of digestion bare minimum between meals. We can get an intermittent fasting and eating for your blood type does tomorrow. This is just simple basic groundwork. So for me, the average person you know, you're probably able to consume thirty to forty five grams of protein per meal pretty simple about a six ounce chicken breast. Or six eggs or six ounces of ground beef runs kind of that six eight ounce range, very obtainable, for most of us from there, depending on what your glycemic load, is your ability to process, carbohydrates how out of whack your insulin. Sensitivity is would in my opinion determine how many carbs vs fats. You have see carbs are somewhat necessary. They're not completely necessary. But for most of us to go straight, Kito would have some long term ramifications. My personal opinion, would be cave. Twenty percent of your calories come from protein. Let's look at fifty percent from fat and look look at thirty percent from carbs. So twenty five hundred calories. Twelve hundred and twenty-five calories from fat divide that by nine because every grab a fat has nine. Calories associated with it. And I don't have my calculator pulled up very, very roughly. What is that? Hundred. Sixty grams of fat that sounds like way too many, I'm literally going to now pull out my calculator because if I tell you something wrong, and then you Email me in and say that I'm messed you up. I'm gonna feel badly about it. Hundred thirty six grams of fat. Right. Which might sound like a lot. But if you eat some red meat if you eat some fish, some, some mega, sixes interviews, natural grass fed butter that is really, really easy to get to let alone something like brain, octane, or exc-, t oil from bulletproof, right. There's all these other variables one hundred and thirty six grams of fat is very, very simple and fat inherently, contrary to what we were told in the eighties is not bad for you. It's just not. Just break it up over equal meals. Stay away from the really process fat. Then, of course, the rest of your calories can come from carbohydrates, my opinion on carbohydrates. If you can't pick it from the ground, you should probably stay away from it. They would be called root vegetables. Sweet potatoes yams, maybe some actual potatoes. I would personally stay away from breads and grains, and things that had to be milled, or processed. I think they're hard on your body. That is my opinion. That is not scientifically proven a proof that will come tomorrow and we'll talk about their. Now on. You create a Colorado deficit that Colorado deficit should be carried on over seven days. Maybe fourteen altering the time of day you eat by a little bit. Altering the cadence of meals, you eat, always keeping the back your mind and every seventy two hours my body's probably catching up. That's three days in a row on the fourth day. If I have red meat for the third meal, let me have for the second meal. Let me switch those two up. Let me see what else happens. Side note you should drink at least one ounce of water propounded body bodyweight. Way to stay hydrated. In addition to the water water is a flushing mechanism. You need to add some things to make the water stick where it needs to stick, a pinch or two of pink Himalayan sea salt, natural, soul. A squeezer two of lime crates, what Taylor Sappington refer to as a natural. Gatorade, it's going to replenish, your body where you need it. Not just flush everything out. You're always urinating. Dining is literally just a simple when you have the facts now sure I wear a whoop on this arm. And I wear an aura on this finger and oddly enough to tracking devices that are incredibly scientific and specific that I don't ever take off. Give me two different Colorado loads everyday. They're different by about twenty percent on most days. So even they as you're pulling, and depending on your fitness tracker to determine how much you eat. It is selling you short, my friend. It is not enough to base it off that if you want invest the two hundred and fifty bucks or so, in the base mathematics of your life to further optimize, the performance of your body. I would question where else are spending two hundred and fifty bucks you could pull away from it. Once you have the facts and you're forced look them in the eye. You can make decisions going forward. It makes it way easier. And so all these diets again, paleo or caveman or Kito or vegan or anything. This framework works inside of all of it. Slyke how Radic deficit good hydration. Good exercise, a good amount of protein. That's not too hard on your body to process having a little more fat than carbohydrates. Allows you a road map to start to make changes same thing if you happen to be a little more slender, and you want to add, some ads some way to your body, very, very difficult for most of us to gain muscle mass without a slight accumulation of additional fat. Why is that? Because you need to Colorado surplus once again, you need to consume more calories than you eat every day. Then you need to burn everyday you consume more calories to burn every day. And so it becomes very difficult, depending on the load in the exercise level, not only physically, but also mentally push body through every day to determine exactly what you need. Calorie-wise. You might overeat by two or three hundred calories a day. And while that's certainly going to give your body the optimum out of fuel needs to perform an increase muscle mass all the extra calories needed to go somewhere and they get stored right for future times. And so we can work through some of the efficiencies of that throughout this week. But if you just start to master these basics, right. Find Dexsa skin find a place that does of you to max. Cross-reference owes numbers. Come up with something very simple. Talk to a dietitian. Everybody's gonna have their own opinion. Right. That's the other thing there is no perfect diet. There's no perfect plan. There's no perfect anything. We are going to get into tomorrow eating for your blood type and why believe that'd be impactful. We're going to healing your gut, and why that's impactful, we're gonna get into all the damage you probably put your liver and kidneys through. And why that's impactful. We're into some really simple stuff that you might not have ever considered before. To put all these things together, and the entire fitness industry is a whole, right? You join a challenge. You join man. I'm gonna I'm gonna join this ninety day challenge. Some transform my body. I'm gonna get all this stuff dialed in all the variables. I'm a give this all for free. I'm gonna tell you exactly how to do it. More importantly, we're working internally to create calculators and systems Eunice Email me in heaven. Figure out your macro nutrient load and how it works. And how to calibrate what you need to eat is simple. It's science. And when you understand the science and you understand some higher hormones are working. And you understand sleep patterns, your stress load, then you understand heart rate variability. Now of new create this picture where you're now, finally in control of your body. Just like you're in control of your car sitting behind the steering wheel. After put the premium fuel in it. Today's the first step starting to put premium fuel inside your body. I hope this is impactful. Do me favor of questions. Shoot me an Email Ryan at life opposition group dotcom. It might take me a series of days to get back to you. All these resources all the stuff that I know you are more than welcome to it. I don't claim to be health and wellness coach but I will guarantee you. I know so much about the human body how it works how the processes fire. That I'm just going to give it to you. You might not need to hire a health and wellness coach. You might not need to join a transformation. 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Intercom on Product: The dawn of a new decade

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Intercom on Product: The dawn of a new decade

"Welcome to intercom a product. This is our eight episodes. I'm your host desk trainer. I'm joined today by as usual. Mr Paulhamus Hey Paul I loathe and today we have a special guest who senior director of product design. Mr Amick Conley Harry. I'm feeling very special to be here. You're very specially welcome. This is our twenty nineteen look-back where we're going to talk mostly about things that happened this year on indeed this decade. That start what I think. What was one of your favorite moments in the poll? The cyber truck you loved it questions Yeah I'd put this in the in the enhancement of the year category enough. For All the reasons you might expect the content disastrous enhancement breaking windows. Okay okay next. I think it's brilliant and I actually really liked. The design of an point is actually whether you like it or hate us. What I like is that it's different? It's crazy it looks ridiculous it looks insane and it looks. Looks like it's from the future. I think that's awesome because if you look over the course of the decade that we've got to end there's been so much assimilation in industrial design and product design. Everything everything is starting to look the same like Google Pixel for here my new phone. It is exactly the same as the IPHONE. Yeah like in in hardware. You know cars on the street. Oh look the same Makita for all the batches off the same and next thing cyber took time you know. It's like brilliant amazing even if it makes people think think twice about how much they hate us. Great Yeah I mean. I think there's something interesting near like the Internet. I I think about this at all as a as a relates Alexei building no matter what city. I'm all hipster. Coffee shops looked the exact same no matter what like hotel lobby. I'm in. They all look exactly. Does this like epic convergence. I think maybe it has just sped up. Maybe it was always always way in a sense but like it does seem like that like all products on new product with capital p. in the broader sense. They're like quickly converge. Like it's almost like you. You know we have this theory of Fox where we really quickly find. If fitness vultures established the best is the best is adopted universally it spreads and then and then obsolete stagnation ignatius happens in an somebody like cyber truck comes out and says. Rit of all these rules and these bessieres curves all F- All that here's a here's a ridiculous thing career make with I go on. That's what they achieved in a sense. Yeah I wonder as you were saying that I was thinking of a time about ten years ago now I got to visit visit the city design studio like an innovation lab type place for a fairly well known car company and they were designing these amazing futuristic looking minority. RV report like cars. And so I wonder what the cyber joke actually looked like when it hits the road or if it ever hits the road and focused with like take those dribble redesigns were. Here's I ab- could look like and you're like right cool but then reality kicks in when in fact Craig this is probably okay. I think I think it's different though in the. It's not accounts have car. It's actually the car and people have ordered it. Yeah yeah so I think it can't different radio autocad actual thing yeah. I'm getting back onto things that our listeners might actually listened to us for what about products stuck Like software products Characterized Twenty nineteen. So my job here is run. The product design team here in London and Fatema was clearly. The Bay had the biggest impact on our team this year. I think for our corner of the industry for designers. It's been a shift towards Fatema has been in a huge thing. What eating represents like figure that the best sounded like it's like the? It's better than Photoshop. And it's multiplayer in the sounds like that that's my limited understanding of. I think the bigger story is probably the move towards you might just think of extremely well designed stools for getting work. Done see probably lump. The likes of superhuman into this category as well which which at some level is just a really well designed email. Oh getting emails done fast. That's probably the other when we're doing design work the product that's get got in the most like name checking industry this year in terms of like superhuman for acts being almost a new category of product that you might or a new angle that you might take your own product in for sure super as she being called out quite a bit as like the the actual look breakthrough product is twenty nine. I think a lot of it is like really well deserved it's it's you know. It is undeniable that like we had not seen Zien at least for like a decade. A software product emerge by independent team. I think there's like twelve people until involved in supreme equation. Where they they went to an irrational level of Polish like truly rational undercharged white be considered like a pathological price for what is an email time where sure everyone's base price is zero unday commencing? Its twenty nine dollars a month and people like what the Hell what thirty Muslims that democracy shift that. I'm impressed by there as well. People are carting luxury software. I think in general the idea that if you use a thing every day multiple times a day that you should have that it's potentially or oh I positive for you to invest in the best possible version of think that's starting to catch on which is good and then I think like should superhuman have like a a wild braintree successful look at say objective success moment outside of the echo chamber in a sense. I think it'll we possibly deep best case. Study of the Aurelia of software product design that we've seen in decades but What do you think? You're not a user. Are you using no now. I don't use superhuman. It's kind of I was ironic. What you're saying that I've tried to start using it multiple times and set up the on boarding custom on boarding on ener a constant postponing? You haven't gotten around to start using never gone through their mind you'll on boarding process just got scheduled and rescheduled. And then I kind of gave up and the reason to give up was like our meetings. You only go there. The reason is is the g mail and I actually already good kind of tie in a Google inbox or the failure marksman anything about it because they married some features energy no. It's not like superhuman represents to me isn't a big problem. So do you know the the the money things interest. Because I wonder if they're a bigger thing going on here too which is around people becoming more willing to pay for software like people being McGregor people businesses. You know again going back. To the team of the decade in the early part of the decade op stores started to come at it and people building apps and it was real. You know you mentioned Sturdier and we were chatting race to the bottom on overtime I think people maybe the rise of direct to consumer has helped too but people have started to Appreciate that you need to pay stuff. Good stuff is worth more money and that could be three dollars like a lot of things we buy online. These days are two daughters and three daughters and actually that kind of transaction nature just buying stuff means that if emails free in this things better not free like ten bucks or whatever twenty bucks. That's that's okay. That's okay at least yeah pushback repre- human might be at the actual price point rather than the price tag like the idea of a price. People might be okay with thinking about products that you we started using this year specifically. Maybe I'll go first started this year I was a bear user so bear dot op is like a really really high quality. That's that's a note taking up. I dare say it's superhuman for note. Taking although smaller products base Atbarra costs a dollar forty nine months but is undeniably single solution to know taking. I've experienced UNDAY the small team in Italy. I would guess you're doing wildly successful but it's just a really just a beautiful. The full everyday products ten times a day on its they could honestly charges hoped in on this thing but they could honestly charge fourteen months and I wouldn't really blink. I think under one forty nine one dollars forty nine a month which after your apple boxes and all that sort of stuff gets pretty cheap. Basically for them I've ever I'm guessing like its relative book free products that he could probably support millions of users and still do really well and I hope they are. What would your equipment be? Yeah too fast. Questions Dancers Productive Zappala productive. You've by I'm a sucker for spells district doors ADOPTIVE BY-PRODUCT ED go. I'm a sucker for like the end of the year this time of year because you know I'm big. I believe in the first designer even though szekely arbitrary things go but it's like every reset kind of mode and so this year I wanted to track my life better her And and the reason for that was trying to better balance like my spend enough time my kids and work that I do this today with today's day and so I drink too much coffee too much booze. It's not enough running like these are operational things that are a good life if you like. Is this a productive. I kinda come across as a habit. Trucker literally already changed how I operate. Are you the every single day I have about ten habits tracking it and every at the end of every day before I go to bed I just go like some of them are like did I do I send some of. I didn't do it. Just go tick tick tick tick and I have a record for the whole year. So you like design your life as to how you live and then just have a letter report card chart everyday. Yeah Yeah and then. I'll kind of look at trends sometimes. Like or what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to tweak. It's like the kind of theory of nudging. You're in. How inhabit building nudge myself? All the time I get up in the morning and go like for the whole of March not in reality life happens you know whereas this thing is just nudging nudging in so like if I didn't do a thing for multiple days in a row or did do a thing. I shouldn't be doing a look at our shit in. I should would probably just tweak my life and teeny tiny ways but doing it every day like I look back at the go like wow like I kind of you know Like I did it. It's not like really that black and white Bush. I'm better off. As a result of the approved reminds me of a friend of mine is an architect like a building architects Anita saying how one of the most important things he takes into consideration when giving people advice in their houses all kind of lifestyle. What's your idealized lifestyle that you WANNA have? If you want to spend more time reading books make sure to design reading nook into your house like menu environment and all those little triggers and everything that he sat for yourself will actually push you in that direction. What about yours? What's your year party started using this year? Dino Mattress Trust Company Casper so. Did you start using mattress mattress before now so yeah go away so we all good they brought us so they've been doing mattresses and then they do a Halos and stuff they brought basically a bedside lime called Casper glow. Didn't get huge amount of attention. I think it's a really beautiful product. It's kind of Internet of things connected device products basically to pitch. It's a smart night lice. Kind it looks like a home. pod Very Sleet Roy. Sealed thing An elite on an inductive charging base on you interactions are really nice. You flip it over to turn it on and off and twisted around to adjust the brightness and then similarly actually what we were just talking about it gradually fades in brightness overtime to encourage you to actually go to sleep time time in that whole thing from a design point of view. One of the things I really liked about it was. It is an Iot device but a works without connecting it to your wife. It works as a dumb devices while as at Rome nightlife. And I'm kind of done not by I didn't do any paring and it still works. Great reminded me of like graceful degradation. That idea of an escalator that stops working still works gotta stairs similarly like this works really well and I don't want to go in and change changed the hugh or anything like that and so I'm happy with how it works and I find myself really wishing that more technology infused household devices work that way. Ah Bit smarter but still pretty dumb for most of my divide. Don't make me feel like Bluetooth for like two hours. I think with the wrong. Or whatever like yeah yeah I I thought he got the There's a lot of interesting Eric. We could talk about like you know Internet of things and more about like I guess ultimately favored. That's being also talk about like costumers where we one of the connick direct to consumer bronze in a sense which is again something. That's kind of broken out of this decade. I think direct to consumer to me like I've been shocked by you have much even though I'm skeptical of the category and I don't even sure is category but the idea that you can build our business online but if you instagram odds than if your products go if you're at your good. I was kind of skeptical and yet when I look around my house I see so much direct to consumer still firm like. Oh I never realized I was buying all this shit all along young but like people were telling me all you should buy this. Tell you should bite out wallet. You should buy this phone cover. And I'm like picking them all up only realized actually most of departed. That'd be buying Ovadia fall into that category water. DC still provider of you picked up. Yeah it's interesting to watch where data's egos next decade or even next year I was in the glossy store New York City the month ago wife buys a lot of stuff from Gossett direct-to-consumer primary makeup of yeah. Yeah so entered a New York store because she was going through in your you are. Can you got a couple of these. Bits and bobs so then I went and stores wild like it's one of the craziest retail experiences have been in in longtime unfairly stories. And there. There's a New York it's a on Broadway obviously crazy high. Iran's whatever they are theory not looking to make money off store. It's an experience it's like as it's just very hard to describe to vote as our design robot things deliver the goods and like it looks like a pink cave inside the uniform. It's like it's like the future it's like the jetsons meets item awash thing cave. Three the future Morton memorial as well. Because like I suspect woman like the argument of the demolish. The future will just be without shop windows where you can walk in you. Don't buy the product. There you pay for their maybe. Yeah but like the product at home. Yeah Chop Sound. Sounds like more of of an ad and then a shot totally totally totally hundred percent. And so. But it's interesting is they have to the store so like Y in y you know like their our company and so maybe there's just some Sentiments sentimentality about it. The thing worby Parker and like other places do similar like you could argue. Maybe Apple Apple Bull by all cancer under most profitable stores in New York but like I bet they probably still do more revenue online right. Yeah does this. It's an interesting transition. Where like UC online? When was the odds and real world was purchased? I do wonder like in the next decade. Will we see actually inverse where they see. The real world is just retirements like physical inpl- impersonal advertisements thirteen's that you should really be buying online cyber job. It might also be some reflection of these things meeting some balance like I was talking about. You know everything going crazy crazy Internet of things and actually I like being held back a bit and also likewise you could be like why the future is just direct to consumer. I'm never going to shop again and yet you find yourself like worby parker now you know who would have been I. Guess one of the trailblazers here now have tons of shops around the place right. So it's some sort of like I mean A bunch of tradition retailers are building their online. These these things are all going to meet in the middle and the other thing. You're you're lump reminds me image is a I want to say like the donning failure of like the connected home. The Internet of things. The idea that you can this what's up your blender or whatever all aww Shit like what's gone so wrong there what would it take to go anyway right. He's clearly clearly clearly the Again back to my example of like. I don't want to be doing my phone. I just like. I was literally setting up night lights for my kids. I didn't want to be like dealing with Bluetooth connection and so on and so the setup costs that the cost to actually get in this all working versus to gain a lot of these things like all the smart opens for example at the best at best they have some ability to like. You can set a timer on your phone but you can always said So the your doctor. You can trace his backside actually like your VCR from the Asia's blinking twelve o'clock forever right because like there was no point you could set up the timer but it wasn't worth it. Yes totally. I feel like it's still not worth. Did it some sense. I think there's actually like interest in travelling through this which is like me talking about productive and habits and like nudging and like narrow until I quite into of things ah connected home not take off another thing that strikes me but this is the last decades being probably the most stimulated decade and history of humanity over stimulated like all the still phones or buzzing and are things that are not and so the idea like even my phone loan one simple small thing in my pocket like drive me nuts half the time the idea of having that in my house. This is now insane. My house bows and left right and center and beats in Bob some things So like ever to assume Alexa advertising when you come home lexical reading your email I don't like to go a does definitely swimming there. I think the thing is I just think the tech never detected never reading made to the party. Like in that ever was working off downsides into road ideas I saw was it yesterday Apple Amazon. Google entered dislike open home. Alliance the answer. What what? What's it called again? Don't forget to that you can never forget it's called the The connected over home. Ip Alliance name. The disappointing reminds me of remember. We're like when Andre was basically shit and Google running around. The House is trying to get people to sign up for the open handset alliance. I remember reading at the time I think it was John. Gruber said like you don't see Google Google trying to form an open searchlights. Do you like. There's something volatility idea that you set up these alliances at it isn't it's us against the world or whatever when you're product category isn't winning winning on what's so unique. Here is Apple. Apple Evren just presumed behind the scenes was working on something that would have emerged. It would have looked at all the existing listings honored and given them two fingers pressed on what whatever whatever they wanted to do. Whatever else would have to catch up or get much like they've done in pretty much every area area facetime? I mentioned you name it. We don't care about your standards. Here's somehow distinct niche with apple's balking Amazon's backing on Google's backing you kind of feel like if they can make it work that either twenty twenty two twenty thirty we'll it'll be the decade of the smart home or turns smart homes just not GonNa ever happen. You're you're you're totally right about those standards aligned. Things I can think of other examples like Google did open social back when they were perhaps paying socially social damn they also had a messaging standards or something. But I don't get what's in it for those because I would have thought that all of those companies fancy their own. Chances of being the winner takes all kind of winner in though so I I do wonder is it that is just so many different products such that like like you know Ken. What's GonNa make your Fryer on Bosh is GonNa make your own on Samsung's going to your Frisian? Unlike does Apple Amazon or or Google tink that they're going to do all of that like maybe it's just easier to be like. Hey we're going to be the tree of would agree on some protocol for a hope. Maybe maybe like the home pod slash. Google's else was whatever it's called. Google daydream. Whatever daydream went on to become slash de Amazon Echo will become just the thing that controls all the things and the tree of damn of agreed effectively? Ready to divide Rome in a sense Our divide home. I guess and then I think Apolo probably backing themselves that guy get good. Yeah Okay and I think apple probably backing themselves in the same way back themselves into phone hunts that we're going to have the best product and Amazon are probably backing themselves into way they always would which is bringing up the cheapest product and and I bet you do go back himself saying we're GONNA be the product Mo ninety percent of the market uses. We're going to sell outs. And and maybe all three like like we'll win had depending on the type of home you want to be essentially care about the hubs. Not This folks. I think that's probably because otherwise you have to build blenders on a concierge. Even jokes aside like there's no way that they could actually get into building all of these devices specifically custom. Money's not there like people change. Your Fridge wants a decade. They change your phone once a year. Like there's just has no money to be had and fridges or this. Equities and conversely the blender manufacturers really struggling satisfied three protocols at once exactly. Yeah Yeah deterred that did not adopt Honda Bluetooth writer right so I it but there is an interesting thing. They're like this is like the first open initiative in a while that I felt I had a chance unlike Seem over the last ten years or so of the death of openness in lot of ways like we've seen a lot of like this boozer open source SORTA dial down a bit. Who who probably with the rise of Saas like effect like the death of the file format and like you know everything is now? You know you're meshing figment earlier you don't send me your fig mythology semi-official emme pygmy your L.'s. Or whatever I do wonder. Are we looking at like a future. Where like the idea of being open is actually relevant? We bright we basically just collecting walled gardens and in the top of our browser and never showed the to speak or if they do speak. It's true so middleman like ZAP era this type thing but this basically like the idea of having a piece of information in a file that controls. What your design is for the next Messenger home screen or whatever is just gone? It's literally dead. What do you think yeah? I think that's true. I definitely think about at the decade level. I think the decade before this one you think web two point zero everything was incredibly connected. Very Webby the uncertainty. There's been a consolidation of things if I think about the file system like that probably has as much to do with things move into the the cloud and then the phone really supporting the model. Yeah that's true. I suppose I'm thinking about desktop even Like and then the fire system doesn't no one seems to have made it work. Ah dropbox is the exception. But they're more lives on your device and with the clouds like Google drive. Might have done an awful lot. It sounds to heal the file because they have a system is just very hard for most of your to figure out how that works and then you end up sharing your house over slack in the new on the system is search is the new search messaging is the new browser explorer which is kind of crazy I'd intercom. Our mission is to make Internet business personal. That's why we want to hear from you. Were currently running our inside Intercom survey. This is your chance to let us know exactly. Actually what you need from our content and twenty twenty each completed survey will go into a draw for one of three spotify premium annual passes. So you can keep up to date with all your favorite podcasts. GO TO ENTER DOT com slash twenty nineteenth survey. Now go with the decade taking if you take the Time magazine Zine sense of the word waters being the product of the decade. No I do by Time magazine as warts and all what is being the one that would get at in the history books for tax using over last decade. Let's start with you have it does might initially sound like boring answer but I would probably choose Uber. Given your framing in like not necessarily my favorite my personal favorite product or company of the decade. Although I do think it's an excellent product is when you step back and think about the apartments definitely Like the positive. How's it aside of its impact has been the huge? Yeah Yeah even. The product itself is designed. Add even even the APP experience pretty whenever the people questioning Uber. I'm like do we really think people want to put their thome out on the street. Because I don't even want to do that ever again so clearly. No definitely a better experience like makes get experience to deliver world. I think their impact on our industry has been fairly outsized. I mean there was a couple of years there where you couldn't couldn't move for Uber for X.. Startup pitches rice strip them of which went onto become like billion dollar companies in their own of it. Through and I'm not whole cadre of companies that took products off screen based on purely digital on bringing the digital experience into the real world until on the they're probably also the poster child for like the decade that we've had in tech yes in terms of Hubris the growth's the insane insane valuation. The flash injury has been overgrazed rebuild Diagnostic maybe. I think it's the products that probably still has in the way. The car shaped the twentieth century environment is such a strong degree. Obviously very dealing with cars is but like still has the biggest potential especially when you get onto the self-driving stuff to reshape how we live on a day-to-day basis. rewired rewired the supply and demand in the physical world. rewired how that works now. You're mediating which wasn't possible for mediating between people would've wanted thing ushered end the GIG economy two sided marketplace type of even brushed themselves like ubereats. WBZ freight there'll be more assured the launch a private jets already. And why don't you pull lost in years. Yeah my answer the face it. It might seem kind of boring to to you honest. The product that I think is probably the best product use is Google maps. And what's interesting to me about. Google maps and thinking about like like a product of the decade is that at the beginning of this decade and even the first half of the decade. I remember being like giving conference hawks and so on and showing Google maps and it was all all of whatever I was using that as an example is way finding like street stuff like wow look at here is like street view and talk about changes in how people go holidays vacation. Were they literally land in a city. Hanno map no physical map which is unheard of ten twenty years ago. No idea where their hotel room ups and off they go. There's directions you no. And that was the kind of ten year ago story. That was an amazing alone. Same not an Uber scale but similar type of totally changing how we how we interact with the physical world and if you fast forward today I personally now Google maps for a lot of things you know like if I wanna find your restaurant another google you know maybe this is the marrying of Google search. Google maps restaurant reviews. Like if you think four squaring yelp and all these things I used to use. They're all dead to me all google maps. They've hundreds reviews for almost any business. Not just food like hardware store. You know all sorts of random stuff. Services Aberdeen is true for me. Didn't have all the deep links as well like you can order at an Uber. AUBER true Google maps. You can serve a scooter google map so he can basically take any actions. You won't be if that makes sense in the context of dirty. Yeah which is which is pretty impressive. A I agree. I think it's a fantastic fantastic. Love Design Product. I do wonder how much more functionality it can bear before it collapses under its own ways I always find align myself when using it in this weird mode of I've managed to find my way through it but I don't have a clear mental model. I'm I'm discovering almost every time I'm discovering and how did you get to what I want to get to another interesting thing about Google maps through quake was like I think they have been at the vanguard of a lot of technical innovation over the last ah stack as like about ten years ago. They were one of the most kings of amazing Ajax shops right like dynamic in the browser APPs then sometime sometime around the middle of the decade they switched over to web. Gl away from ecstatic pre rendering of Tausif Just an amazing technical fees on. I think a lot of things that we were talking about earlier like sigma wouldn't be happening today. Maybe if that hadn't happened or so certain that the way and even now they have like the A. or street view where you can get interactions and so like they've been really good ass productized in cutting edge technology and making it useful not just like the hot new. That's that's right. I think they have like. I'm trying to even way back. Like Ajax itself was where they they literally change people's understanding of what was achievable at a browser. Like in in ways we haven't unseen before and if I'm like Oh right up until the they they continue to do. It's incredible if I'd pick. I'm Kinda stuck between two. I guess I'm one hundred watts. But in general all I wanNA say Messaging Mess things that live fragment I wanted to save messaging general but I- mastering has been the thing of consumer to consumer level of de las decade. Who I think we entered this decade mostly using SMS on we've exited using twenty seven messaging? APPS would go to leave it to listen to that but I think I think we have shifted massively towards like what's up is probably the iconic one specifically in Europe but you've got a message snapchat FACEBOOK MESSENGER and instagram master kick which outlined Diadora. There's no shortage of them. The other one from a more boring B2B SAS perspective. I think that has defined so much of what will define the next decade stripe I think they are. Impact on the industry is today massively underestimated him. They've said in place a series series of changes that I think will define software like if you think ten years ago to incorporate a business and start charging credit cards. It would probably those two things alone with pre-take you six weeks today. It takes about six minutes with office. I'm stripe Dave McGee or if you like the sort of butterfly effect of that massive Asif reduction in pain and they've also made possible which is where it was never possible and I think like if you play that out over the next decade. I think we'll be looking back at you. Know twigs drive started in two thousand ten. It will be looking at their impact as rolled over this year. Didn't have a shrink credit cards. He didn't point of sale systems. They're gonNA keep going I. I really think that we're GONNA look will look back at this as sort of enlightenment of sorts for like for what how easy got to start businesses on. We'll we'll see the dividends over the next decade. I think I think think they have had one of the best missions actually of the decades that as a very niche category favorite Michelle. The great thing is like increase the GDP the internet or something like that which is expansive enough to allow them to do business in a box or Delaware. INC is in a box on point of sale online online command line tools for payments. And so on and I you know. I don't think a lot of companies have had that maybe like Google had an amazing mission. That really drove like maybe going further back an incredible decade for them and I think it definitely underscores for me the importance of getting that right at the start. I absolutely agree. I think I'm I think there possibly working in one of the last like Google sized opportunities that will that will probably see of Canterbury varied speaking you know decades though maybe like let's on a real good negative note does runs every major Steve. Everyone demoted I know. I just gave you exceeded expectations book. What disappointments of two decades and these can be funny or harsh jere call? What a what when you think about the last ten in years and Tech House may be worked out as well as you talked? Have we talked about slack. Yes I think we should side of messaging thing if messaging is the riots even of the decade yeah the odor is probably the dark side of. Yeah I mean anyway. Slack would be you know one of my one of my products of the decade in that like a brilliant product so well designed generated so much excitement. Change the way people worked but put you know looking back in. I think that they they still have to work to do in in terms of at least got super excited by like. Hey you know kind of sucks. It doesn't like what slack can make it better. You have this problem of email you slack and I feel like we all went there now. You have two problems during your overloaded is loaded on boats on and they haven't really been able to figure out the information overload problem. The noise problem yes at least from their success. It's very hard to to to ensure. Imagine again like you. I think slacks I want slack in my life versus just email for example. But it's very hard in writing for them to deliberately average use engagement like done like that's what it would look like on the metrics right. It might be a better customer from experience. News experience and actually batter generally people's productivity. But it will look like a reduction and that's what they'd have to do in that sense. It's possibly very similar to the time. Well uh-huh spent or I forget what the APP version of it is but the Screen time things that are being built into phones now. It's like this implicit admission nations. That like we actually have to get you to use this less for it to be better for your life so hard for a company to wrap their heads around the so. I've actually make sure we finish on on happy. Tones and Alaska Yourself Paul me as well but the happy tone here is maybe like what do you hope for slack over coming decade. I think that in order I it just want to say in order to cite something as you have to have been really excited about US under still have some hope for its future as well so I would love to see them. Save it got to a point where we don't have to use both email and slack they seem to similar to me to warrant And so maybe they need to morph in that direction. And I do think slack has created a large opportunity to disruptor or come up with something that may be sin between email and slack whether that's their their ability easy to move into that space or someone else is injured. They buy superhuman next. Paul what a you Wa husband maybe a disappointment or of the past decade. What do you hope it will change in the next? I like it. Okay I'll give you an example. An onslaught doc thing Inter Inter meshing earlier does in our personal lives. Master has changed the landscape of Mahjong. How we connect with each other like it is? You could talk for hours it has changed in unfathomable ways. We don't think living through this will ever be able to fully comprehend and you can see platinum politics as a sharp edge of this whole thing Mhm Mike. You know the kind of rise of like host truth this kind of idea right so like messaging has fueled up then and so the dark side to this too on on a whole other dimension. Dock itself is a lot more like the live. Chat clients of OWL's than it is like a modern messenger unclearly email. Liz is a tool that like is outdated in terms of technology and it doesn't have emoji in NYC. EMOJI are very important. Way because so much are expressions. Non Gesture Alabama bobby words And so I'd love them to really understand like what's the difference between what they have email and in the middle of messaging I think is actually a new product which ideas a version of slack. Or if there's an opportunity for a new company to really embrace the messaging as concept versus you know live shop and create as something that just maps a bit better to hire people actually want to communicate. I'll give you is the distinction there like live synchronous versus a synchronous that would is that. What you you mean and that slack doesn't work that well in a synchronous way? Yeah you know. There's a lot of expectations reply time. Notifications work interrupt business. There's also like just human expectations as well. Like family takes a day off. I don't feel the need to catch them up whenever they discussed. Whereas it's like it's kind of designed that way we're like hey look at your your I your read the whole book Park Design Channel and see what was going on like? That's that's just a weird thing. That is both useful on weird weird. Just creates this sort of sense. Well I need to first of all consume all the diatribes. It happened woes away actually read it while I was away. Yeah even worse. Yeah exactly so like yeah. There's a lot there. Yeah interesting for me is again kind of the combat a decade and and different tragic uber to like self driving cars. It's kind the fascinating to me if you go back three to five years ago you know. People were extremely optimistic. Self driving cars clearly. It's GonNa it's inevitable would say and `and clarity better and a whole bunch dimensions and Google have lots of data traffic jams and self driving cars with thirty fix. Fix those and Blah Blah Blah and the kind of model is to L. A. and all sorts spaces and if you fast forward today like where self driving cars. The technology is. There are existing. They drive around the place by themselves. The error rate is way lower than humans. So better like the data would say it's better and yet because there's been a three that's maybe Maybe more like a bunch of injuries like but any measure like crazy low crazy low. It was the robot who did it and so suddenly every day. Whoa no no no no doubt we kind of about that? They're driving our cars on the streets killing people sort of psychology at play where things like this and people who are investing in these types of things. Thanks for the future really. I think underestimate the the impacts that like small changes like that can have on like shark attacks like nuts in Dutton tonight. Yeah yeah ridiculously rare but like Moskvy overpublicized. On as a result decreed they create or like a you know generate a lot more paranoia or fear. Done that probably probably proportions versus something like just texting and driving. Yup Yeah exactly. There's maybe like a lesson for people making products there as well. Oh that like you know. They possibly Pasta. Point of confidence for the biggest challenges for them are technological challenges. Who get to drive well in in all these different situations under like Mike Social Acceptance Ges regulatory challenges? And then you look at something like facebook and you can draw under woes that they have enjoyed over recent years as in. You're like oh it's a similar thing and so the lesson of like thinking about the much broader context Henry changed early on the line. And you know how do we like aggregate the stats of like self driving without a without an accident. Like how do we make it really clear who wants to be paranoid that they can't be because actually these things are Masato performing you. Yeah we talk about these things. Technology like pace is our ability to this is what is their message. We do not understand the impact rushing out in the world yet and won't for ten twenty years on our ability to their ability to not be able to catch up with that kind of holds all these things back so you're hoping that we can proportionate sense or at least accelerate our ability to understand Indosat allies more maturely kinda depressing place. They're like yeah. Yeah and I hope. I hope he's got better at these types of things that we were in this kind of like you know kind of global cycle at the minute between like Brexit and the US election cycle and where we're actually learn independent of how you feel about those things. What do you feel strongly one way or the other and we have millions and millions people who feel strongly impo comes independent? Feel about us. WE'RE GONNA learn a lot from this phase of of human life you know because we're going to decide knowing a lot more about the excite logical impact of these technological developments. Let's and ideally that feedback in the hope. The hope is that we learn from us as a society into actually make positive changes and don't get dried right into the the things that kind of brain like are kind of old brain is actually agnostic gravitates to kind of fight or flight type mentality so I'm optimistic and hopeful that we can and actually learn from these things that will be small Christmas wish society accelerate Latin spend eternity. Yeah Okay Cool. Thank you very much all. Thank you ambush and all of our listeners. Thanks for listening coming to the Intercom on product. PODCAST for more content. Go to our bug at entercom dot com slash blog or subscribe to the podcast on Itunes spotify soundcloud on cloud or subject. This is intercom on product.

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Episode 36: Naketa Thigpen, How Practicing Self Love Will Help You Grow Your Business

Tribe of Leaders

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Episode 36: Naketa Thigpen, How Practicing Self Love Will Help You Grow Your Business

"Hey everybody welcome to the tribe of leaders podcast. I'm your host Emmy Kirshner on today's podcast. I have the distinct pleasure of interviewing the cake take pin. She is the number one balancing relationship advisor in the world and Makita Partners Career preneurs to help them amplify their intimacy in their relationships. To thrive in work life and love by creating their balance and joy. I had absolutely the best time interviewing Nikita and she shared so many like nuggets of wisdom that they're really too long to list here but just to give you a couple of touch points. We talked about how women can express their anger in a proactive way. We talked about how to handle difficult clients in a way that feels good and uplift you and them and she shares absolutely by far my favorite the one thing that she does to recharge her business and herself every year. Check it out. You're not gonNA WANNA I miss this. My Name Is Emmy Pressure a serial entrepreneur and investor. The one thing that I get asked all the time is how do you achieve success in business in each episode of the tribal leaders podcast here for entrepreneurs and visionaries share how their leadership has changed on their lives for the lives. Everybody around them. Hey Makita welcome welcome. Welcome to try leaders podcast. I am beyond beyond excited to have you here. Tell everybody a little bit about who you are. The way you're serving world. Yeah absolutely thank you so much emmy for inviting me. I'm honored to share the space with you and all of your listeners that you've cultivated over the years following you and in your brand and your sparkling this. I'm just so excited to be here as well. It's definitely Hashtag. Mutual feelings as the kids head so my name is Nikita Pin for all of you who have never heard of before I am a licensed clinical social worker by professional professional background. A lot of my expertise is rooted in trauma informed care relationship management human behavior. Sex therapy the intimacy in all things that really tap into the person inside the professional about eight years ago I started a global personal development company called Hawes big pro balanced and relationship management institute where I work with lots of ambitious women in business and a few brave men who are just truly truly ready to change their narrative that they have inside their minds from wherever they were coming from those scripts that need to be re scripted and reprograms. So they can. I can honestly have more freedom and flexibility and the confidence to thrive without sacrificing their love life. So that's one of the hugest differentiator originators for our personal development company in. I am all about the love. All about the intimacy personally and professionally because we know people can be really ambitious and successful on paper and inside work. But if they're coming home to really humdrum mundane relationships or lack thereof is just is not serving them in the most successful way. And that's where I stepped step into the space and relieve the biggest impact which I think is so amazing. Because I can't tell you how many people bill that I've talked to her. I've heard about where they're like. I was rocking at work and then coming home but not just like intimate personal love relationship but not loving themselves not living friends right right absolutely yeah and billing very void yeah. That's that's a phenomenal. Were there because there. Is this big hole. This gap this channel that forms in your soul when you feel like you're missing that trusted person even especially bet trusted person as you right like if you don't even have a connection with yourself to trust your own decisions and your ability to take over the world and trust is that you have power within you and their self esteem and self confidence issues that the world may not see because he put the mask on you put the hills on you. Put the pearls on each step into it but behind the scenes you may be struggling and they're definitely is to use your word. A huge void that forms for people. That's all intimacy that self intimacy as well. uh-huh how do you help. People take the first steps into reconnecting with themselves or their partner. Well if for your partner is also for yourself off right like so we talk about a lot. You can't show for someone more fully than you can shop for yourself. You and I both know this as leaders in the space who do a lot of self work in in a lot of work for ourselves and work with our own coaches and advisors and teams. It is super crucial for lack of another word. That you really take care of you so it's not just the self care like people put too much emphasis. Healthcare is important. Don't get me wrong but just going to yoga and having a great pilates body and you know eating in having some acupuncture or massage or spa days with some friends. That's all good. It's it's really helpful is definitely a part of the process. But if you're doing the self care without having self love then we have right right we gets Sukhois into the doing instead of the being and when you love yourself which means looking in the mirror and being okay more than okay with everything you you see so I do a Lotta Mirror work with a lot of our clients. I mean they have to be at a certain space where they're willing and ready to really dive in bed deep. But that's the only way that I work with them. I'm so very not just saying. Oh Yeah I really want to do it. But then they're not ready so they're not showing up to the sessions or they're concentrating no reason why they can't make appointments the narrow not really ready and you have to be ready to dive into yourself into dive into your own spirit work so that we can fix the broken pieces of your vessel so in get it all glue back together so that when you pour in that self care and you do that staff. There's some love they are to hold that space for you right right. It's amazing just people who don't know would you share what doing mirror work Looks like yeah absolutely an ESA. Great question so mayor work comes in many many different forms but the simplest one is literally to stand in front of a mirror that you can see at least waist up so not just your face but waist up and standing back act just enough so that you can literally see like your eyes like both your eyes. Sometimes were so close to the mayor we can only see into one. I like looking at ourselves. May WanNa stand so you have a little bit more full pitcher. It's not whole because you're not seeing your whole body but a full picture of your being you. Can you know if you're intuitive. You can percents your own Ara. You can really connect with yourself and if you stand back far enough but close enough to see yourself but still far enough to see waist up and you say everything's innards usually a script that we program based on some of the challenges you have so most people have a challenge with their worth or feeling like they're not enough especially we the the women amendment you and I work with because their ambitions they're go getters doors and they're not celebrating the thing that they just got done right they just got it done. They hit the goal that had for six months. But they don't celebrate it and like okay. Great moving on and they didn't really take stock in it so it because they are constantly going the hamster wheel of their own creation. They're they're constantly feeling like they're not enough for the next big thing. Everything is out you know proving proving proving being in a kind of in this really Agreed Cycle which can really stuck a ball of their energy back. And you do some of the you know the more than enough work mark. It really is as simple as saying I love you like Eddie Mair work every day twice a day and I'll look in the mirror. I anchor it to something that you you. Can you know that as a habit so I know that I'm a brush my teeth every day twice a day right so I- Inkerman Mira were to do to do that before. I brush my teeth because when I brush my teeth I do a little bit more affirmations. Granite I'm a special spice so everyone doesn't have to do all day. I like that. I love that Hashtag special spices nationals. Mayes you know know who you deal away and I. I know that I'm a multichannel survivors. I know there's a lot of stuff in there that even after years of therapy and coaching and all that those things can creep back up into my conscious space in show up in my relationship with sell my husband my kids Eh grandbabies I n even my clients if I'm not careful so I do probably a little bit more than most people would feel like they need to do but the mirrors that I do probably we take all of sixty seconds before I start to brush my teeth and do my my normal affirmation of how brave and bold and beautiful and courageous I am but the mayor work is as simple as saying I love you. Makita Ron Webster fake pin I say my full name including my mate name because I was me before I was a wife right. I always want to own that part of myself. I self and not feel lost in my husband's face on lost in his relationship so I love you Nikita Webster pen. I free you from all of the things that you've done to yourself or to others that you didn't forgive yourself for I. Forgive you. I release you from all all of it. You are deserving and worthy of every great thing that you had had you do have and you will have all the miracles belong to all of them all of the unlimited abundance. It all belongs to you because you are worthy receive. It received it. I love you and the numbers. That is so amazing. I and having done Mira Work and not to the extent that you're doing it. I don't do it every day but I have to one of the most powerful things. Why did it the first time I am so uncomfortable? Yeah absolutely I cried a few times I still have moments when I you know. Sometimes it's just ease and flow like Gupta. Do you know getting right through it. Like a little ritual routine and then Jay's because you do have to look into your eyes like is very important that you're not busy you know putting the two page on your toothbrush and getting ready for the next you know part of the day. I'm standing there not doing anything. Knowing that the next thing that I'm going to do is pick up my two Russian move to the that's part of my day but I'm literally looking at myself and sometimes they're something that was going online. That creeped up that. I didn't even know you know. Maybe we're businesswomen. So maybe there was something that was you know an inferred comets in on social media. You know I've had people say because I changed. I have short hair but I changed my hair a lot and years ago I used to have people say on Akita. You would be so beautiful of you grow your hair like what first of all have you looked at the sexiness like what and you know my immediate comet would be like by like I know how awesome I am but then sometimes because I'm a woman in our unfortunately you know the way we look and all that does matter in the world for other people that would be a moment that would come up maybe weeks after that all of a sudden I would looking at myself saying Maybe I should grow my hair back. I came out like where did they right. Yeah so little. Things in that can release released tears of anger. Now we sadness but sometimes you just frigging angry. Like what's how. Why did I let this person gets a meeting? Where did this come from You you know if I showed up in a boardroom to negotiation and I just felt like I didn't know sometimes we just can't gather all of our stuff no matter how awesome we are like our minds a little jumbles. Both I'm like Oh you should have said this. You should that. And I'm not releasing it. I'm holding onto things that cannot change instead of embracing the a lesson that I got from it to be more prepared or to calm down slowdown before I show up in that room and review my pitch deck one more time or you know whatever it is I needed to do so. Yeah right right I want to circle back and Kinda hone in on something new side about sometimes the the tears of anger and not just sadness g you feel like women in particular like were not allowed to be angry. Yeah I do because you know no. You're nurturing you're beautiful you're docile. You're absolutely not supposed to have anything. That will look like aggression especially anger anger because the world boxes in and I'll go a step further emmy nominee African American woman and it is definitely another layer to bed as ed if you show up as an African American woman. And there's a bitch an inkling out of anger there you are paid on a whole `nother level as the angry angry every black girl right Allen Djing I yeah I mean I I agree and and I think too late particularly as an African American women in general if you show up and you're assertive and smart and you're really persistent assistant what you want. Then a lot of times we're defined as angry to or man Yeah and that's really frustrating frustrating. So how can somebody express their anger in helping ways. I lead from kindness as much so you can be angry and kind and it can look a little sociopathic a messy right like the clinical side coming out like it. It can look for other people like like I was just waiting for you because some people are trying to pull you off your square right like they're trying to get you into a space where they think they got Iraq. Oh Hana's you know. Relax better because they can get you angry and get you more emotional than they can keep you from tapping into your the power. So they think but use it because women are powerful beings. I mean our our goddess level is just you know just off the charts where frigging life bearers. You know what I mean like. We are so powerful and we have to use a little anger. When we're pushing out life right we gotta pull in all of our energy put? Let me be out and there is accepted to look ugly and make faces and to do all that but it's really not accepted outside of Labor so I remind everyone that I'm dealing with so you have to look at everything that you do as laborious when it matters to you so if it matters to US ahead this business or this. I don't like to use the word. side-hustle Ouseley Asleep Passion Project. Or you know or or passionate place that you're trying to cultivate when you're in that space you have to remember that this is labor but you have to go into labor slow so you don't bus vessel or or split something you don't want to split right right and that's where all the women who have ever pushed out a child. You understand exactly what I mean. What S Super Physical Pitcher? So part of how you'd if delete with kindness when you're first going into even a physical labor once you villa your life and you start breathing and you're trying to calm yourself because you're trying to be gentle about the process so I leave with that in conversations and I'll give you an example. Aw I recently had one client. Who was way past? We had stopped working together months and months and months prior to this. The course that we had done was over we had over extended time an over giver. You know so you need to jump on a call to run through something we did even if it was three years years ago and you know you have a question about that my I can. I will so if I can grow and I definitely will so we did that and I want to say we did that. Like like a half dozen times and at some point you have to pay attention that some people are trying to take advantage right like there's other layers to programs that you can go back in if you or if you really. You WanNa do it. If you want to apply that work that you did before to something new in your life. Well now we need to do new work right like you just can't necessarily is happening to the old thing and she was really upset that I wouldn't take a call on a Saturday. I was out with my family which I usually am again. Guy Kid got grandbabies the whole nine I have applied in a message like hey you know you have the link to my schedule. I went so far as the pull it up and give it to her. Here's a link to my schedule. Go ahead and schedule something you know when something's jumpings available we'll have the conversation and she was really upset and went off like Emmy when I tell you she went on she went off about. You know I'm a former client. Oh you should make room for me. And after I paid X.. Amount of dollars. You should definitely be available for me when I like what what's happening you you realize that you're not a current client. You're not in a program and in my head Kia. The old young immature mankind version of myself else was trying to creep up. Because I wanted to say chick if you don't like I wanted to read another but I had to remember that as much as I had a right to push back against the boundary that she's trying to cross because she was both professionally and personally because I had given out my personal cellphone to her for various reasons reasons when she was a client just dealing with other like pretty serious stuff ahead to be mindful that I was. I needed to meet her where she was like. She was angry and obstat and she was feeling abandoned and she was feeling rejected which had absolutely nothing to do with me. That was not what I was doing so I let with kindness in my anger and said listen. I appreciate all of the the wonderful things that you received from the various programs work. That we've done that makes you want to reach out to me but I'm WANNA redirect you to another coach who might be able to help you with this abandonment attachment issue that you do because although a licensed clinical social worker by profession. That's not how allies show up in my business. I use my clinical tools to help me break through a lot deeper than most other people. But I'm not being a therapist in my company. If that that makes sense right let me refer you to one. So I know some coaches who are also therapists and a wear both hats consistently in their practice. It is so I had to refer out and I just dealt with it with kindness. Let me be a resource. Let me not give you everything that belongs to you and you know right really really tell you about how I feel in a not so great way and I smile a whole time so a t from me is also smiling because it changes the way you manage things shift cermony shifts your energy so they can look a little sociopathic like I was saying it in front of someone and you're smiling while you're like you you know Emmy I'm not really sure why you think you can play this game with me but it's not gonNa work and I'm saying you know something that would be right. Usually with an angry tone or a Yucky face but I'm smiling like what is happening with this girl and I just give it to you because you have to really decide who deserves that energy. My husband can get it anytime right like he. I loved them enough. He's close enough to me. He can absolutely get the angry side of me. 'cause he deserves it you know if we need that he can get it. Well if you're not affecting my my space on a regular basis. Should I really be sharing anger with you. That goals pass ask like thirty seconds like are you worthy of me changing my vibration and going little and you really do have to access of that so it again of self worked to get there but it can be done yet and I think some of it's G- remember exactly what you said is whatever it is the setting walk. The person is saying or doing whatever's happening is generally about them and it's really not about you right and it's high sometimes times in that moment right like when someone's attacking you or vomiting on you emotionally and verbally. Sometimes it can be hired to to be honest with yourself about what is what is because I triggered because sometimes we triggered someone else because we were being a little snappy and we want stepping back and listening onto the vibration of what was really happening right like the rooted right abrasion which is a lot of what good leaders do you have to snap and acknowledge the perspective of others. And if you you do that then you're more likely to be able to sense what's really going on. It really belongs to you so you can take ownership of it do some reflection learn that lesson and maybe apologize. If that's what you need to do in that moment versus absorbing all the stuff that's bears and you now taking it home and you you feeling like you're less than or unworthy or maybe you shouldn't do this anymore. Maybe step down from his leadership position and maybe you should change businesses and that all those bangs aren't necessarily something that you might want to consider if you're not showing up a good leader but if you are in if you're careful about what you're allowing to absorbent absorbent your own vessel your own cup thing. He's done what you're supposed to do in bats being a good you know. That's showing good leadership. I think that's so so so important. I'm curious to if there was a time where you didn't have that boundary where you would've had the call on weekend. Oh yeah absolutely absolutely and that. That's that's honestly where some of that came from is years ago. We start accompanying twenty eleven. So when I first started I was just I wasn't just available. I was accessible which I always say be available but limit the accessibility right. Like if you WanNa have a life you have to you know have some boundaries around what time I of day you're going to be available for non emergency calls. You even have the DECI is you're if you're a business owner yourself or you work for a company. That doesn't necessarily have emergencies emergencies you have to define. Is that something that you're going to do. Is there an emergency impersonal development. No it isn't so technically I never my company he never has to take a call at three. Am but what I would do is beat I because I'm coming from a clinical space in thinking. Oh my goodness someone is going really low whether suppressor anxious in its waterline suicide. Or it's shifting into another space where my clinical selfless jump up even bell. I said that that's not what I would do. I have power partners that I can refer to if only the work with someone else on that level in conjunction or instead of me but I crossed my own boundaries because because I was very fluid with them and back typically why I was thrown off balance from me. What took me to be so focused on on balance and relationships and intimacy enjoy with not having any of it like that was my my story me not having it and me not being on shelter me feeling like my family and being told by my daughter was seven at the time when she said you're so awesome but you're awesome for everyone else but me like that stung the Dow? It was like huge and the reality is a king from me not admitting the truth of what I wanted and that's all balance is and and I didn't have it. I wasn't admitting what I truly want it. And Beer for I was not creating the boundaries to get that thing that I wanted or those things that I wanted so that I could fill imbalance from me. That's all balances is your truth over your boundaries period. All it is and I didn't have it so I would make myself with eligible. I wasn't given out the office. This you know. The office phone number was on the business cards but I rarely even gave out the business car. People would say only could have loved to connect with you and I would immediately give my cell phone them immediately and there was is not a work versus personal number. There was no extensions. I mean now we have google voice in all that I can divide we. I wasn't doing any of that eight years ago. Almost nine years ago so So when someone would text me you know. Three or four o'clock in the morning a non early riser and I was up haven't respond respond to the tax our respond onto the email. So of course one it. I was training them to think that this is the time that you could access me right. You could access Sunday. I was so bad it may and I'm a minister as well and I'm very spiritually. You know tethered for lack of a better phrase and on Sundays. They're very protected. Time for family. I was so bad that I would be like walking into the church building and responding to emails on a Sunday I would step out of church to take a phone call like it was really bad and a lot of it was because not only did I not admit what I wanted in create boundaries for but I was filling desperate. So when you're feeling desperate for any reason desperately your personal relationship in your dislike accepting any old bang you just desperate for friendship so even though they girlfriend has showed. Did you twenty times over there. She is not your guy. She is clearly sharing your information with her other. Good girlfriend that you don't even know or you know connect with that way but you're just desperate to have that person to talk to. You're desperate for love. That you're just dillon. With the dude or the chick that really doesn't hasn't earned your your worth your time your energy and obviously the same for business if you're dislike desperate to prove yourself and you want to build a portfolio cell bad that you're willing to take any in everyone. Everyone without filtering them without an application process without knowing your Avatar the values of the person can truly work best with no matter how dope your gift is and you know it can apply to everyone. You still work best with certain types of people in those. Are The people that you should work best. You should work with so they can get the best and I wasn't doing that I wasn't doing any of it. I was new to business to entrepreneurship. I'm coming from a helping space I'm a helper helper. I'm used to dealing within systems of Children's Hospital in Support Center for child advocates and Community Behavioral Health Department of Behavior Helping the government and judicial systems. And I'm used to working in these really audacious huge often right on Organiz systems being an entrepreneur stepping into that space and having to create my own system with Monde like it was mind boggling to do that down to the understanding who to network work with. Who's really got you? You know who really is interested in learning about your business so they can be referral partners and you can be recipient all that ED versus people who just saw you as a dollar sign right or saw your network as as money and just wanted to skip right past you to get into your pocket. which is your your network your people in your community that was they were all lessons that I literally fouled right on through paid attention to all of them? I collected all of that pain in all the lessons. When I got to a strength space where I could reflect on like y'all like do you realize what happened to you? Never show up like this in your normal normal professional self. Why are you showing like? This is an entrepreneur. I had to be honest with myself in the reality was. I wasn't trusting my own self. I didn't have self intimacy Timothy as entrepreneur because it was so exposing of all the things I didn't even know I had to work on yet. So right and I think particularly as you're starting off opening new business it like every direction stuff's coming at you like. Oh you should do this and you should do that. You should do that and you don't know which one is going to work with you. Yeah Yeah easy to get derailed. It is And I think a lot of your. It's easier when you don't have to use a town that's very appropriate appropriate to this podcast. When you don't have a tribe right you don't have sounding board that safe space to ask the question? Is that you guys. Had I thought about changing all my brand colors from this beautiful spark delicious purple that I love so much too I wanNA play with. I don't know yellow. The right like just and nothing wrong with yellow. But when you don't even have that place where you feel safe enough to ask questions and get good feedback without judgment right in. There is the difference in there is a separation. Then you get in your head and you start to ask an answer the same questions until you literally warn yourself how how you just fall into whatever is easiest in that moment which isn't necessarily the path that you're supposed to be on exactly exactly and I think having the tribe to is a were even a few accountability partners can help pull all of that out of you. Yes it's super important Ami that's that's what you're trying should be on some levels. You should bills accountability partners for different parts of your life right the personal all of it. Yeah I mean I talk about having a lake team and business team. The business team isn't necessarily like people working for you. It's your your accountant both personally and professionally but near your coaches your mentors. The people that are supporting you accountability partners life similar similar in the financial advisor Accountant Maybe a state planning attorney or whatever but also some of your really good friends that are supported word who you're dealing. Who can pull you into at higher space on a regular basis? Now thousand percent agree with that. It's so crucial. Aw especially for. I mean for anybody for humans period but especially for women because it pulled in to a lot of spaces that makes us it taps into that inner child's needs to be wanted it to be recognized and to be loved and sometimes we play in those spaces too long wrong so we could have really good girlfriend to use your point. That is great personally. She's the GO-TO for relationships fishy. Don't know about your business right like she yet and because you had a really good conversation she helped you so much or you felt needed and you helped her so much. In a personal conversation does not mean that she's the person to share Your Business Vision Asian with right right and I think being clear about that is really important. Yeah it is. I want to shift gears for a little bit because you do something that I don't see a lot of people doing and I think we should all start instituting and that is your self love. -cation Oh yes as you were talking about. You didn't have the systems initially in Your Business Zest for made this is like it's almost like having another system it's like implement day and you referred to it when we were talking earlier as recalibration. Yeah so Sharon everybody a little bit about what that is why you started doing it. Yeah absolutely thank you for that. So suffocation started for me about two years two years into a starting our business. I started originally saying I would do it about two to four weeks and then it grew from that that to four to six weeks and now it's a stickler I am. You know the last three years we've been doing it for six weeks period. No questions not listening any rains around it when I originally started it it was simply just because I was feeling burnt out right like by the summer. And I'm a summer baby too. So for those those of you who are very aligned with your birthday your energy Ranga Birthday. You know that. There's a lot of emotional and mental transition that you go through as you Get about monthly sixty days out before your birthday. You start being like oh my gosh mortality. Getting older right upticks in And I do minds. It's every summer Usually about July twentieth until the end of August end with a slow taper into pokes labor day like pose Labor Day's movies really. He picked up steam back into business. Even though were officially back to business is September one and my birthday July twenty eighth just to give a little context so what I first started doing. My name was really just because I was burnt out was burnt out from doing all of them running around every coffee meeting. Felt like everyone in Philadelphia new my name and and you know and I was referring clients and doing all kinds of different things and it wasn't necessarily reciprocal was a lot of an emmy. I'm sure you can speak to this as an entrepreneur. Sometimes there's a lot of meetings about meetings about what we might do one day someday and then followed fall through the holes or those people. They want to see him busy day day so you were just another meeting for them. Meanwhile you are actually trying to build a connection to see if there will be a relationship that regardless us yeah and I was just really spent in accordance with this I also have a rare autoimmune that takes a lot of energy and I had to be very careful with the way. Did I eat in my stress levels all that stuff so I can stay out of the hospital so I was just really just feeling drained and I was having a lot more flares than normal and and I'm a homeopath so I'm superintendent. Do a lot of the stuff myself and everything was just gone awry so what I decided to do by year three when it became Strategic as I said because I was feeling a lot of guilt during these first couple of locations like Oh my God. I'm an entrepreneur. You don't work you don't eat. You Bet you know you better put in the word like how dare you doubt so that kind of thing. So I looked at the books. I was really strategic. I looked at our numbers. What months were what weeks and months were our hat At weeks when we had the most money generating Remember where personal development so. There's a lot of workshops. Incentives masterclasses webinars speaking engagements at that. Appoint most were unpaid beginning with a few paid because we were hoping that. The unpaid lead to pay workshops. Now it's very different. Almost ninety eight percent one of my speaking engagements or paid out so we changed a lot of the back office of the business for that but at the time I looked at Whitworth dry spots for lack of a better and we were really dry in the summer and when you think about it the growth and development space amine corporations aren't necessarily bringing you in for a lot of conferences awesome workshops in intensive coaching because their employees are going on vacation. And there's baby showers and bridal showers graduations. It's the summers had spot. What for people not being in that mental space of work right at least in the United States obviously different different parts of the world different part time but we looked at it and we realized we were spending more money in we were making during the summer? I was spending money still having all of these. You know five six seven meetings a day running around the city back city were global. So we're traveling where getting on trains and planes and automobiles and doing all of this to show up for meetings readings to be cut short for people to say. Oh my goodness Makita. I totally forgot my nephews. Graduation is today or you know what meanwhile I pay four hundred dollars a night at the hotel in New York to stay for three days because I had this full schedule an out of sixteen meetings those three days. Maybe two were actually happening. The wait a minute. Something is wrong with this picture. We are completely and I know you can speak to this because you're an investor as well. We're completely Lee bootstrapped company. Then it is our money and only our money right like we we invest and others. But we didn't necessarily have investors in our business business though. All Accountability fiscal responsibility was on me to really make sure that what we put in came out some kind of way even if it took six months to nine months to generate so looking at the numbers we looked at the hat spots. July are actually middle of June is when things started to dip July. Hey that really low August up until about the third week in August is almost zero bangs happening and then it would slowly trickle up as you got closer timber and there were some other dry spots around up you know. End of December. The Christmas holidays for those who celebrate to the first two weeks in Jane very for the most part. So that's when I decided to align myself location I said you know what I am fiscally responsible to protect this business right and protect my the body and my mind and my spirit all things that are line so strategically. I'm going to take this time to to recalibrate. Look at what we were doing last year. which was from that The September that I came back up into that July so I kind of look at September to July. What was I doing Wayne? How did it work? Was the workshops working. Is this topic working with the feedback. We're getting so we just use like the first twenty four to forty eight business hours hours of the self location really is looking at the numbers just to make sure that we don't make the same mistakes or we do a little bit more one type of thing than we were doing before. And then after that it's all easing flow I have some anchors because I have you know pure good responsibilities with family grandparents. All that and I have grandbabies that have a lot of health stuff. That's happening with them. So I need to be available but my husband and I were around our anniversary and I get massages and I get girlfriend different time and I get to fast about seventeen days not all consistently at the same time. I kind of break it up over that six weeks to just really pay attention Asian to me. It is the most selfish thing that I've ever done to literally pour into myself so that I can be completely full when when I come back to work I can pour out without regret and I know that that's hard for people we pour reporting poor in were empty like the gas tank and then our car engine starts messing up. Because we don't have any gas in it right like ray and when that happens for those of you who drive. You're out there cursing at the car. Dr Come along with the you know we're doing because the car is not working for you and how that shows up in our business and with our families as now we're we're we're showing up to these places. There were not present. Were at the baby shower. Were at the meeting. Where the networking event? Meanwhile we're thinking okay. I got to go to the supermarket. I gotTa do dudas gotTa stop by the CBS. I gotta you know when not actually present because we're bear in a space of regret cause we were never full before he got there so this six six weeks is literally. It's my selfish time. It's when I give myself permission to pause to live to love into laugh my way to finding that next level. Oh my joy and that's where it really came from it was. It's really a selfish time for me. I love every single second of it. It sounds amazing Harrison. How's IT affected your business it has more than tripled our business over the last few years once I let go with the guilt? So let me be very. You'RE NOT GONNA get anything anything less than transparency with me right really transparent the first couple of years when I was Kinda Dibble in and dabbling with that like two to four weeks and I wasn't really sure I wasn't really letting go I wasn't releasing like I would come off the books. I would do the outbound message a you know I'm not available a little black. You need an emergency Z.. Whatever but I wasn't actually not working so I wasn't really recalibrating? Behead that guilt of not doing in I felt do in your in order to get instead of allowing things to flow to me by being who I am. which was a huge shift for me? Probably around Tom. I would say by this stuff. Location the four self location. Bet that happened. So was that fifteen ish somewhere around there. That's when banks shifted for us. When I really started to not just say I was going to be off the grid? But it's a really off the grid rain. It made all the difference. We started it to attract a lot more of the right types of opportunities necessarily requiring made it to you know. I don't know what the war would be to run through five thousand hoops to get to the one game that I wanted to play. People were coming to me and they were finding out about me while we you were off work like when people can't access you that exclusivity seems to do something to certain right. Wait like Oh you know an Akita. I looked at because you know. We have an electron at clap calendars. We use acuity and also people use count only in book me and other things but if you come back calendar and you see like up July no appointments August August no appointment September booked. You know like you're looking. There's a part of you that says who is this girl would absolutely right in pretend it was just the reality because July and August. I'm away September and October. Pretty much our fill to the hill before we even go to vacation because people know I'm completely off the grid so if you really want something you know you have to get in early and you definitely have to show up having things together with whatever it is that you WANNA and discuss so that made the difference exclusivity and also not them not belaboring the conversation so I work in both with creative entrepreneurs entrepreneurs is sometimes get pulled into corporate spaces for different engagements as well. Will you know the corporate conversation can be two years before you actually get something done right. Yes that it it minimize that to your conversation to closer to nine months which is a a significant difference from a business perspective because they know there's a pocket of time that I am not only unavailable by the time you're ready to have a conversation nation. You now have to add for months before you allender because you wait it to push something through that you could walk down the hall to doors over right so so. It made a huge difference both financially as well as I really much better I won't say perfect but I'm much better at attracting the type of client that I really want to work with because when I come back from that space of Lebanon myself my main my family you know all the Banbury. Hey I am not showing up for lunch. Flying high is not happening like listen. It's okay you WANNA reschedule. It's fine would you like me to refer you because again leading from kindness. I'm happy to reschedule four-times at this point. Yeah but so amazing just this quickly because we're going to have to wrap up. Unfortunately we could we keep going all day with this if somebody wanted to start implementing the self location. What's one or two things that they either could look at to get started or a couple of tips things to keep in mind so that they can kind of planned about perfect so the first thing is if you are an entrepreneur as you can also be an entrepreneurial leader in a workspace but if you are an entrepreneur in your business is very dependent on youth specifically showing up as the service person as well as the L. Than I would be strategic and look at your your calendar like look at the calendar of the last two to three years of when you are the most full? Try Not to use the word busy. You're the most full in in your work and a best January February April when those are not months that you wanNA take off right exceedingly mindful about that so be strategic. It does not have to be six weeks the established at a special price. You're right clear about that so you can just start with five to seven days and then slowly limp in it. I have clients that will do for weeks over the year but they break it up. If you're in business look at it. If you are an entrepreneurial leader showing up for another organization in Your Business Development the relationship building hat then you can still look at your hat spots for win. Your your plate is the most full but you also have the benefit that we entrepreneurs it you get P p. l. time so look at how much people yell time that you're getting and you're losing year after year and be really strategic about that from a mental health and wellness onus space. You know that you're really really be busy in the fall what you probably need some mental health time to book in that busy season so schedule that vacation Haitian right before the busy season so that you can come back. Recharge 'em right after the busy season. So you can kind of debrief from all the great good stuff that you just gave to the world's Yeah I love that and I'd like to add to just because I know I'm aware of my rhythms where I'm summer baby too. So even though my birthday in May like I. Slowdown varied naturally intuitively over the summer. And again right before the holidays so I plan my business so that I have got time to have more downtime generally speaking and definitely only in the winter because I just want hibernate I give me my blanket. Yeah Good Food Food and nine times but it really allows me to be hit the new year particularly like just so excited and ready to venture out connect with everybody. And that's you enjoy the process of your journey right and you get to enjoy it instead of just running through it right and once particularly in the winter I accepted that I didn't have to go to every holiday party year. Do all the holiday stuff and let go of that. It's amazing what can come in. Yeah that release and allow you release it and allow such great things like. I can't wait to see your great everything with all the new transitions that you have that because of all of Yeah you've done in allow some magnificence in your life. Yeah thank you thank you yes constantly creating a which is superfund so i WanNa thank you Makita so much for coming and being on the show but sharing your infinite wisdom I mean. There's so many little nuggets here I'm encouraged everybody. WHO's listening to go back and listen again Zik? Thanks will hit you different times. Where can somebody connect with you if they wanted to reach? Oh yeah so the go into the website which is big pro dot com is the absolute easiest. I'm sure the link will be here at the bottom of of the show notes for the PODCASTS. At will and I would say that intimacy advantage clinic is probably the best place to have conversations in coming in. Ask questions questions and you can get that link on the website as well to just family. Yeah awesome thank you so much you are amazing emmy. I'm so grateful and so honored to spend this time with you and your listeners. And I I'm just in the space of gratefulness. My heart is so full from the conversation that we had so thank you so much I am as well and everybody listening. Thank you and we will see your next week as an entrepreneur superpower. You ever feel isolated like you're just grinding away and not getting to the place for reaching the goals. 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So, I Resigned (Part 1) + Life Things with Maquita Donyel Podcast

Life Things with Maquita Donyel

21:20 min | 5 months ago

So, I Resigned (Part 1) + Life Things with Maquita Donyel Podcast

"I WANNA start by saying this is definitely GonNa be a heavy topic but also a really good one about some really important and often taken essential gangs and I mean. That's why you're here right. I know why you're here. You want the real enroll time. And that's what I got. The subject matter of the episode is all in the tight. All this is so I resigned part one. So let's get this party started. Hey guys this is Makita Danielle of Polish pistol. And you have reached my podcasts life. Being here we talk about the things that happen in life whether it be up sir downs for moments in our lives that feel like they're gone sideways else importantly here we are safe here. We are free and anticipate is the name of the game. I have a podcast and this is going to be more First things first and that is I devote my life to God to Jesus Christ and all of the right in my life just give glory back to God. I have free. Will I make my own choices? I'm given so much grace. I'm giving so much protection and guidance and favor in ways that I cannot conceptualize explain in the way that things pan out of my life is nothing other than that his nothing other than the glory of God. There is no magic. There's NO FORMULA. It's grace and it's got. Resigning is scary as crew cab without the laughs. That was nervous laughter Yeah it's off the chain. God provided me with a a cushion. That allowed me time to undo some of the bad habits that were created by involving myself in the politics of Corporate America And come back into myself into who I am and to who God says I am into those who know me say I am and there is where I found clarity and direction and purpose. And so have resigns the notion that someone else could determine how much value I brought into any space a organization and to office into a project or relationship. Because I've already been given the value and I had to resign to a world and arts individuals spaces that were determined to tell me how valuable I was. Based on their need their one or hover. They felt that day it's so inconsistent in ever changing. Though one thing that doesn't change how much God values you at. Very sure very certain and reinforces the fact that divide that I have is something that no one else has. Its unique to me with that. Said there are two verses. I want to bring to your attention. That essentially speak to the value that he places and US I mean there's Genesis one twenty seven so God created man in his own image an image of God. He created him male and female. He created them. Then there's another that just speaks to the amount of value that God has for each one of us as individuals and obviously collectively and its first John. Three one behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed Ana that we should be called children. God now we have Trivia thirty one three yes I have loved you with an everlasting love. Therefore with loving kindness I have drawn you. He reinsures us over and over. Again of how important we are to him and talent valuable that gives the he placed inside of us are really. There is no comparison. Thing that we're the only ones in this world that can bring we have and so really like value shouldn't be a question and so in resigning to those previously mentioned notions and inaccurate beliefs. I then decided to lean into myself. Lean into God and place my value in that after that happened in because I'm connected to people who also see my value which is a blessing. I was presented with an opportunity though the initial offer essentially went against everything that God was clearly redirecting me from essentially went against all the things that are critically important to me like time with my family. Time with my daughter being close to my daughter in proximity So had taken. I had taken the time to say no thank you and no more to reflect inward and upward and actually map out the things that were important to me in life when I map those things out. I came out with a list of things and people in practices that were in that are essential to my well being my growth and my productivity as a human navigating producing connecting with others in this world. Which as you all will likely know by now is creating a platform and sources that promote authentic connections. Also mills list of things. That was important to me lied. My daughter time with my daughter and time outdoors. I was beginning to recognize what toll it would take me to not to opt out of the outdoor time. I'm trying to remember. I go get my planner and track by hauled. It self-help not self hope active self-help days or something of the sort. But essentially it was days where I poured into my so I had perfected pouring into other people perfected that in my career in in my personal relationships what I had not perfected was pouring into me porn to everyone else before me. I had discovered that this was one other thing that was adding to burn out. Essentially a negative result in change at a chip away at my value and myself were than so that became a priority taking time to read and listen to things and workout and dedicating a day of that to me so accepting this other opportunity would also go against that happens. I prayed about it and I had a very a mentor that I can really trust which is such a blessing. I think it takes a lot of work on self. I find ones that are not good at that are usually really insecure. But some people are able to push past security than not project that security onto you and are able to really really like have your back. Yeah and are thrilled when you succeed and and pushed you to do more Yes when I had a very just try. I have a very trusting mentor mentor. That I can just really trust with anything and Because of that and only because of that is why looked into the opportunity after looking at the opportunity and I brought it back to God. He had already worked with me and mapping out what my priorities were in what. I actually wanted and in need my life to look like in order to function any productive and high level inside map. That out like okay. How Zach Work And then it went right back to that valuing yourself and being a servant so at this point I had very much realized what my value was in advocated for that. I knew what I brought to the table. I need experience I brought to the table. I knew how unique it wasn't beneficial it was and even in terms of like advice and wisdom based on my own experiences and Because I was already in a position where I wasn't necessarily like I wasn't desperately looking for something and I was almost like. Ptsd like not even wanting something. Right away I That helped me in that time of my life to be able to be assertive and advocate for myself and negotiate a contract. That was best for all those things that I had previously mapped out without the element of fear. It's amazing what you will do. Just truly amazing. Only that could be daily thing regular thing. Like I'm just GonNa pray about that right now. I just thank God for this daynuss moment. I think God for this podcast and this opportunity to connect with others and I just pray that for those. That are listening and for myself. I want to move throughout this day. This moment the moments I come after this week through the things that you are leading us towards asset you remove the element of fear among our lives that you surround us with people that promote the elimination of fear and instead promote faith and the strains that are inside of you and the actual possibilities that are in front of us instead of what could go wrong. Reminding us of our strength so that we can see what can go right and most and most importantly we can see what you're guiding us to do and so then the other things don't matter and I asked all of this any username guy and I think he Jesus for advocating an interesting on our behalf I think you Holy Spirit for being deeply seated within us to guide US and Jesus Name Amen. Yes so without that element of fear. It's just amazing like what you'll do. So that's essentially what happened. And in this particular instance they the the person that was making the job offer agreed and saw my value and agreed to my counter offer. And that was that and let me just tell you one really cool thing about one senior on value and then having people around you that also see your value. By the time that I was brought into that opportunity I was so sure of my value and my mentor was so sure of my value. That it didn't really matter what anybody thought it didn't. It didn't matter what they said. Or what their decision was because it was solidified. It was very much solidify in that in that moment. Both of I think both of our values were solidified to where no one could touch it with anything you now And man that's why it's so important to have people around you that are trying to make you feel small in order to satisfy their own needs because there's much there's much to be said about knowing what you're worth your value is in having people around you that no because truly then things start to become a lot more clear you start to move different act different interact differently and Yam and that's important. That could make a break a lot of things. Even I'm not even done resigning. Not even done. I feel as important to know where like very real things it. I'M CHOOSING TO GIVE UP IN ORDER TO FOLLOWER I'm being led and I mentioned it. I think in the last one. I'm a planner. I love stability. And there's a bunch of pieces moving and especially when they're moving in a way where you're like this is not right right like you've been you know jusque. Selwyn and so on and someone anger. Just wait in the re and some stuff happens where you lie That's not right. That's not what put into the ground and a bunch of pieces are moven it for me. You not only for myself but that thing gets off the plane okay Moi. What's that smell something? Good I'm talking to you guys tonight from a place of white. A bit of discomfort I I'm learning in this moment that you can both have peace and discomfort. Comfort doesn't necessarily come with peace. That's how that works. Comfort is comfort. I'm working to allow myself to lean in to the piece as one of my friends did this morning but lean into the peace and not into the discomfort and the fear that a lot of times comes with that discomfort because another thing that I learned was how much we do not have all the answers and how much we have. No idea what's going to happen like I I heard got boy. Sixty is before actually saw like the. I heard him tell me to do something. It was six days later when I was actually presented with the opportunity to do so In a way that I couldn't have land. I couldn't even have come up with if I wanted to. In fact when I heard him I like hit up one of my home. Girls Look like so. This is what our guys you. That's crazy right like that. That must just be me right E Yeah So. That was less than a week. I learned how much can really happen within a week. Also this past summer I lost a childhood friend He was young early. Thirty S We love him very much in a week. He was fine and gone. So it's just something that we didn't we didn't think me and one of my best friends Who was married to this person? We didn't think we didn't even though I mean it was just so like what like we? Just it's hard to plan towards a we couldn't again. We couldn't have even thought that up that we would be dealing with that this summer And the list goes on and on and on truly it does but I think the important message here is It's essential to relinquish the pretend control that you think you have because you don't actually have it and At any minute your life can change in. So you have to put your your faith in something that's actually Never changing and that being God because everything else honey moves and shakes. Yeah and don't assume with that being said don't assume that you know what's going to happen tomorrow next week next month. And I realize a lot of instances that's easier said than done but I. I'm really saying that resign. Tv idea that you know what's going to happen tomorrow. 'cause you don't So that's that's one of the other things that I resigned to you. And lastly I resigned to allowing anyone or anything and that did not promote the positive things that God placed inside of me and the strength that God placed inside of me. resigned to putting other people's needs above my own when really it should be give give the best conversations that. I have like with micro friends. It's like at the end of it. You feel you feel like wow like I offered some good stuff and they gave me some good style like you just end up leaving lake almost on a type of high. It's like give gift saying. And that's how the relationship should be one should feel depleted or weakened. And we have we go you know ebbs and flows rain. Yeah but really really truly. That's what I resigned to. And that's probably more of a more of a fall winter thing. Yeah I'd say so that's why I'm like I'm still resided like it. Didn't even stop them. And maybe it won't stop ever I don't know but yeah resigned to Allowing other people to put their their needs over mine And putting in allowing myself to be in relationships where I was made. Smaller shrunken in order to fit within their their comfort the comfort of their own reality. You know a lot of times. They're in a situation where they don't want to change and they're fearful they're fearful of changing and so When your place there than your strengths are also weakened because they don't have the strength to feed themselves let alone their other relationships and so you know and that's no hard feelings at all. It's one more thing that I resigned to. I resigned to allow a beer endow to control my my moves my stubs my decisions by lack thereof a lot of times. I was I was in positions where I would procrastinate order you know I was. I call it self doubt procrastination. And that's not what I'm experiencing in this moment and today but it's it's all very much related and sometimes we can allow the fear and doubt that we have in the abilities that God gave us long before we even discovered that they were there to that and that meant giving up things that seemed acceptable to others. But we're truly not acceptable to the person that I was put on this earth to be a lot of times. We allow fear doubt to become so prominent in our lives that that's all that we see. We completely blocks our view of the talent and abilities and the white and the strength. He instilled in us. 'cause he didn't give us fear that's that's not from guy you know that's not from God and so when we allow fear in doubt to completely just block and I'm speaking from a place of listen. I did this today right like sometimes we can allow. You're in doubt to block us so much that we just start moving and making decisions based on that in that is not. That's not a way that I want to live in. I completely resigned to that so I don't know if this episodes anything like anyone predicted but I am more than happy to answer some questions And then discuss them on the next episode. Which likely you know. We'll have nothing to do with this but again. I can't see what's going to happen tomorrow. Let Alone X. Men you know and I'm dropping episode every month with the occasional surprise episode. Maybe but no promises. The promise is once a month. I'm in the air. Is You and me once a month. You got me all to yourself. They make sure that you subscribe so that you were notified when new episode drops. I am not dropping it on every Monday at two PM. Now he's gotta hit. That subscribe by ends that you know what a new episode has draft so you don't miss it because listen timing is everything and the day that it drops is going to be a purposeful day and I need you to get on that purposeful day. You're all right. 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Gozi, Part 2

Malicious Life

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Gozi, Part 2

"Hi and welcome to malicious life in collaboration with cyber. I'm ran living at an age. When most of us were graduating highschool going through a rebellious phases deciding what we want to do? With our futures Nikita Kouzmin was prime the target of the American and Russian governments making hundreds of thousands of dollars off the criminal underground his friends for some of the most respected hackers of their time hit build seventy-six service the most sophisticated melwert business today and now in his twenties was working on a new seventy six service. So good that he'd make the first irrelevant to fund his second project he sold the first Guzzi trojans source code for Fifty Thousand Dollars Plus share in future prophets to fellow hangup team member. Well known to the hacker underground underground in Russia his name is an st and he will make a comeback leader in her story between two thousand and seven and two thousand ten ten Nikita working on modernizing his male wear mostly by contracting hackers for hire three years on little meaningful progress. I had been made so just did in two thousand and six for the first goes he. He recruited some help. If you visit the wikipedia page for for Dennis Sheriff's key you might find it confusing. It claims he's the creator of the gauzy virus which he's not but even more confusing The apparent contradictions. In his life he's a crewman a- and the founder of social nonprofits a male where author her but also a certified data protection officer. That's like being a cow cook. Most hackers look pretty bad in pictures on a T.. Shirt you know. Then he's on the other hand always looks like he's ready to give a tedtalk. So who really is this. This Dennis. Is he a cyber criminal fronting as a tech professional or a good guy who fell into a bad situation over the following half decade. Many important people would disagree on the answer in two thousand and ten though when he first started what is working for Nikita Guzman. Dennis was a relatively ordinary hacker in his early twenties working as a freelance programmer in in his hometown of Riga Latvia. It being short on cash ever since his father contracted cancer in online forums. He went went by the moniker Miami prematurely balding skin wider than Latvian snow. You'd have to say the name didn't really rematch the face. But what he lacked in Melatonin he made up for in coding Skills Shalev Skis job. Job was to modernize Ghozi by upgrading. Its form grabbing feature into an html web injecting feature in the four years since two thousand and six banking cruisers had advanced past Guzzi in addition to simply reading off and extracting data from forms the best banking cruisers could perform men in the Middle Heck's actively modifying web sessions on their host computers. You can think of it like this bank bank provision in the early to mid two thousands were like somebody who peaks over your shoulder while you visit and Etienne by the end of the a decade banking trojans could build their own. ADM's you'd walk up not realizing anything was wrong. Even as you handed criminals finals your highest sensitivity information. That's what Makita wanted for his newer. Her better goes on September twentieth of two thousand and ten. He sent Dennis his source code as era file. A few weeks later the upgraded program was ready for action. Ghozi version two featured key logging screen capturing it monitored network traffic grabbed logging credentials stored in browsers and hit itself from playing view by using a root kit component. Most importantly abundantly Dennis is web inject was a success whenever an infected computer user visited an online banking site. Just just as logging forms where loading up the program would insert its own form onto the webpage. These forms would look just about indistinguishable people from the bank's website. Except they would ask for even more and more sensitive information than you would otherwise have to enter in order to review your account so may aware didn't have to rely on bank forms asking for that information lack of criminal who builds an exact replica of an ATM. Ghozi was well masked it's victim might not realize that anything was wrong as they gave up their name birthday social security number and whatever other data hecker could have wanted. The only clue that something was wrong in fact was all the data these forms. Ask for a savvy. Computer user might ask. Why do I need my credit card number driver's license expensive mother's maiden just to get into my bank account but most of us are not so cautious especially when the web page doesn't look at all out of the ordinary the program was now ready and we need a platform because brought on another partner to handle everything service side a role once occupied by his former partner? x-ray that new partner wasn't MCI Not Bonus was in his late twenties doll darker white complexion the crew cut black hair living in Bucharest Romania. His girlfriend online. He was known as virus a bit on the nose. If you ask me unlike Dennis Shalinski MCI was not complicated figure. There's no questioning what his motives were. Or what kind of guy. He was yes. He was a criminal though. Ironically his father was a lawyer MCI was good at what he did but not particularly careful about about it. His online footprint could have been discovered without much more then a google search and he was cocky in one instance authorities uncovered a text message exchange between he and the client. The client wasn't being responsive. Answer me that I'm virus. He wrote Michaela's trade was bulletproof hosting bulletproof hosts provide the platform for the kinds of Internet users whose content would otherwise otherwise be flagged by reputable Internet service providers there are symbols of violent material illegal pornography and specially melwert aside from allowing cybercriminals at black from to thrive bulletproof hosts provide level of anonymity that protects clients clients from being traced by law enforcement. BACI was adept at covering up criminal activity if an IP address associated associated with a given client was being flagged or investigated by authorities. He would move the client to new network and a new. Ip Address based in a new country with less strict cybercrime enforcement like Nikita Mikhail approach cybercrime like a businessman. He purchased his service from legitimate providers and usually sold them at a markup of around three times their original cost he called his service powerhouse hosting around one hundred thirty servers at times renting them out for one hundred five hundred sometimes over thousand heroes permanent half of powerhouses renters where websites which hosted melwert leaked data obtained by Brian Crabs revealed. Its biggest client was Tau a major distributor of spam and fake herbal supplements. Advertising other clients used powerhouse. US to launch De dos attacks or drop stolen bank and credit card information obtained with- trojans like Zeus and soon goes I chatted with MCI over Facebook Messenger for reasons. You'll soon understand. He didn't want to speak openly about Ghozi but claims he never talked to Nikita or Dennis. The way he sees it goes he was just one more customer of his hosted by powerhouse. Ghozi and seventy six service where relaunched in fall of two thousand and ten this second time around the service. I didn't sell quite as well. The price of a typical seventy six service subscription was the sing two thousand dollars but the market was different now. Zeus was now by far the world's biggest banking Trojan in two thousand nine alone. Zeus had infected approximately three and a half million machines worldwide. Far More than goes he ever came close to goes he was no longer the hot new item item in one text conversation intercepted by the FBI. Makita pleaded with a customer quote. Why do you need Zeus take nitrogen and mine is much cooler? It doesn't get burned by proactive and works with windows. Seven and Vista and quote this however however paled in comparison to a much bigger problem. He had no matter whether goes e two was a success or not Nikita Makita. Danny's and me. Hi were screwed from the start the FBI. which if you remember we're tracking Ghozi ever since Dan Stan Jackson's investigation in two thousand and six were already after the mastermind? Russian hacker behind the infamous banking crucial in May two thousand and then they received little warrant to tap the voices phone intercept their online communications. And Start taking seventy six servers are flying. The main target of their valence. Had No idea it was happening. Wild wild selling seventy six service. The key dot was talking openly to people online about the kind of stuff that helped his pursuers tracking cracking down. He told one person about the meek and model of his car and often publicized updates on where he happened to be at any given time he gave his bank information declined for money transfer and to another. He's email address which was tied to a social media. Account don't where he posted pictures of himself and his friends. It's easy to forget in all the criminal masterminding that Makita Kita was only just twenty two years old at that point but reading what he openly shared online. We're reminded of it he wrote. Oh two one hacker about how hard he worked to get his girlfriend into a Russian magazine equivalent of playboy other times. He reminisced about his plans. Plans to travel the world on November nineteenth two thousand and ten for example. 'CAUSE men sent an instant message to another hecker quote. I think I will go to Thailand and then I'll go somewhere else and get lost. He said three days later. He was in in Bangkok as fate would have it five days after that Nikita flew to San Francisco bad idea who was apprehended apprehended by. US police upon arrival. Uh Seventy six service was now out of Nikitas has hands but Ghozi remained at large with protection from powerhouse goes eat two point oh would affect tens of thousands of predominantly American and European computers over the following half decade according to our Technica One New York resident lost two two thousand dollars to a Ghozi breach in two thousand twelve. That's a lot of money right. Well another two victims lost a combined and six million dollars to Ghozi hackers. These weren't companies. Mind you lease where individual people who were taken for millions of dollars others piece all because the opened a nondescript pdf attachment in an e mail and then visited their banks website. Sometime later another notable guzzi victim was ness in two thousand fourteen. A Chinese hacker sold access to Nassar's internal networks through a gauzy enabled back door. The buyer was a branch of the anonymous movement whose members used that access to leak large troops the data the group also claimed to have momentarily taken control of an unmanned multimillion dollar drone as it flew over the ocean in May two thousand eleven. 'CAUSE men pleaded guilty to crimes and began cooperating with authorities. It's easy to understand. And why if subject the maximum penalty on all crimes he was charged with Nikita would have faced a total of ninety five years the years in jail ultimately he was sentenced to thirty seven month with a fine of six point. Nine million dollars in restitution for all the money he'd stolen meanwhile as Kazman began talking the FBI built up this thick file on Ghozi and distributors. Yes the tapped online. Communications and identified service among their data was phone number within area code based in in Bucharest. In fact it was registered to a company called K. L. M. Internet and gaming are l.. That company intent was was registered under the name MCI bonus according to our Technica the FBI handed over the information to Romania Genius Directorate for Combating Organized Crime which in turn received a warrant to tap his number over the course of spring two thousand twelve as he went about his daily life. Each of these calls text messages and all his web activity was being recorded by police. Even in his logging information to websites was being siphoned off highs entire business rested on his ability to shield others criminal criminal activity from the cops when he himself was on the line. He failed to realize what was happening and demonstrated uncharacteristic it carelessness. He was far less secret in his business than one might expect the someone in his position Romanian authorities often watched watched on live as he visited admin panel dot ru the administrative side from which he oversaw the status of his one hundred and thirty illegal bulletproof bulletproof service while they discovered was outstanding. All of Mikhail business of his notes were laid out right there in front of them. They were both highly detailed and surprisingly unconcealed. Each of his servers had number and Andress Port in name associated associated with its render the pricey bodied at from a legitimate provider. And the price. He sold it for he. Even wrote little notes about what in each server was being used for for example spyware slash male wear facebook spam for simply legal. All all that was needed was for me. Hide to confirm himself as the proper owner of that phone. He was using to access his illegal black market business. One day. He called the Romanian Commercial Bank to ask how he could redraw twenty thousand dollars from his account when asked for his name he stated MCI Bonus when asked for his. Id Number it match the national record and that was all the authorities needed on November. Twenty seven th two thousand twelve. MCI was arrested and he's home in Bucharest. He says he was not surprised. Someone on let him know that the police was onto him and so he was expecting a knock on the door to come at any moment when I asked him why he didn't flee Lee Rumania if he knew he was about to be arrested. He says he figured that if he stayed in the country he won't be deported to the United States to stand trial there and he was right. He was arrested for four months but not deported. The criminal case against him is still being processed by. Hi there remain judiciary system. Which is why he was reluctant to talk openly about his ties with seventy six service? He says he has has a family now. And if you could go back in time quote I would change a lot of things and called. Danny's Shalinski was arrested in Latvia. That same month but his case was quite different as his story became known to the public became kind of Mati figure bigger in his home country. Latvian courts ruled that then he should be extradited to the United States for his crimes. He appealed the decision tortoise and lost both times but he was not immediately sent to the United States. People in high places took issue with his case believing that the potential punishment was not equal to the crime. Dennis was facing up to sixty seven years in an American jail. Sale sale all for writing just one component of a male wear bought and sold by much more hardened cybercriminals than he in public Statement Latvia's Foreign Minister Compared Dennis to Gary McKinnon the autistic script kiddie hacker from Britain. Who could have been sentenced to life's prison? Had he been extradited to the United States. Danny's like Gary had a groundswell of support from local citizens who Who Hardly viewed him as the evil mastermind who was portrayed to be an American reports while awaiting sentencing for example? He founded founded several nonprofit organizations. Meant to help his local community on August of two thousand fifteen. The country's cabinet ministry mystery voted seven to five in favor of the extradition. With one abstaining. Vote that decision was probably agreed upon in light of a plea agreement then signed with US law enforcement stating that he wouldn't contend with any prison term amounting to two years or less was shipped overseas in February of two thousand fifteen in September two thousand fifteen he pleaded guilty in. US US court to conspiring to commit computer intrusions. He told the jury that he was working as a freelancer at the time he wrote Ghozi's inject feature and that he did it as a way to raise money what his father was fighting cancer. I must say it was the biggest mistake. He admitted in January of the following year after eleven months in Latvian prison ten in. US Present and New York District Court judge concluded that Dennis had been punished enough. Sentencing him to time served in explaining her unreasoning. She cited then is relatively minor role in the operation and the relatively little money he earned from it. She told the court that Danny says quote unusual individual characteristics will not cause others to follow in his footsteps by Not Giving him a longer occur synthesis. But that's not where our story ends the legacy of goes we just far past what happened to Nikita whose partners long after the Ol- exited picture Ghozi continued needed to find success in the wild. The code spread around and like next door before it goes. He became less single Trojan than template template for many hackers to make their own Ghozi like trojans for example there was the Russian crime syndicate under the title of of Project Blitzkrieg on September twenty fourth. Two thousand twelve. As Nikita Kazmin inset in American custody and police forces in Latvia and Romania prepared to arrest Denny's Levski and MCI school to Russians shot a recruitment video was named to get it done. But you're listening to Oleg Civil Civil Dove each stink otherwise known as voice of a coney. He's standing with a business partner the remember when Keita Kazman sold off goes his source code for Fifty Thousand Dollars to fund his second project a friend and and even more notorious Russian hacker of the time was his buyer he went by the name and it's the in the power vacuum left by the arrests of of Canada and his co-conspirators. Oleg Toll Stink began project blitzkrieg. He and his D and their co-conspirators. The never quest crew has their own advanced version of the second gauzy program and a new idea for how to monetize it a free model. You say you're a hacker and you'd like to join a criminal syndicate. Well here's your chance you can apply to join Project Blitzkrieg simply by demonstrating capability and loyalty in an online interview from there. You will receive the builder Kit Emmanuel and training a four hundred dollar educational fi could be waived if you possess your own server butts account once you've passed your training meaning you're part of the team for four years. Neta quest crew prepared this scheme. They improved on Ghozi source code adding the feature that would allow hacker to access a victim's bank account by cloning just about every component of the infected computers identification and then the announced their scheme to the world writing quote after we have one hundred active members of the system. Each one will be given a large algae number of accounts and loads with no upfront payment. I E you don't have to invest money but rather learn to use the Trojan and wait for a large number of accounts from us the gold together and mass and simultaneously process. Large amounts of the given material before anti-fraud measures are increased and quote. It's kind of genius right either. That or stupid. The plot became a known to security experts around the world. Who could only wait to see what would happen? Then out in the end that project blitzkrieg. It's creek wasn't a blitzkrieg so much as a slow drip never quest used to hack many individual bank accounts over two thousand in twelve in two thousand thirteen but non of such grants kill as was promised using the correct one thousand. Six six hundred stubhub counts stealing one point six million dollars worth of concert tickets with the intent to resell seven members of the group loop from New York London Toronto and Spain where arrested no Russian was taken into custody and by all accounts both vote volt coney and NASD remained. Free Men to this day which brings us to a larger point what connects Nikita Nikita. The main character this story with all to stink successor of this enterprise is not just the code that they shared. It's how people like them end up the way they are considered this. Why did all feel comfortable showing up on camera promoting in criminal enterprise? The answer is actually right in his name. If you translate versus the coney into English it needs thief. If in law V in law is Soviet term referring to a class of criminals that operate outside the purview of the Law Nikita in all our peeps in law if Nikita never traveled to California he'd have remained a free man and a multimillionaire to this state. Russian authorities almost certainly would not have arrested him just as the hadn't arrested any Russian members of Neta quest crew. Don Jackson wants describes Nikitas quote enthusiasm for the idea that Internet fraud especially against Western targets was legitimate profession with better pay and perks than working for local computer and software retail outlets. It's university labs and ISP's and quote. The statement seemed ridiculous at the beginning of our part one episode. But Makita was right. All along. cyberfraud is illegitimate profession with better pay perks than ordinary techjobs. In Russia in Russia it is no crime to do what either of these men have done. We opened the first ball of these two part the episode with a question. How does somebody end up becoming a hacker? It's a complex question without a single answer. One way to become a hacker for example is to be like Dennis chefs skilled in financial debt in a situation. Where carefully considering the consequences of your actions falls short of meeting your immediate needs or you can be like Mikhail? Bow Niche talented but immoral. or You could be any Keita Kazman. He could have grown up to be a successful tech entrepreneur a security professional professional or anything else. He said his mind but he was born into a particular world around certain kinds of people and at the young and impressionable age tend towards the criminal underground. Why did he do this for the same reason? Oleg and NS ST did because it was D- rational choice. Young boys like them stood a better chance of owning. Toyota's nice clothes big houses in Nice neighborhoods if the used. Their talents maliciously against the right targets. The Russian state benefits from nurturing featuring and protecting thieves in law who cause havoc against their western adversaries but can't reasonably be tied to the government. Ghozi is a militias Trojan that caused hundreds of millions of dollars in losses for individuals and businesses across the Western on world. But the story of Ghozi is how a generation of cybercriminals was born out of a system that encourages young men go rogue doc and use their promise and talent towards attacking the West most importantly the lesson of Ghozi. Is that the difference. Chris between the talented heck and talented cybersecurity expert might not be as inmate as you think That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening in our last episode. I asked you to tell us what made you take your first steps in cyber security or the tech industry in Jennifer Jonah from Toronto. Canada wrote quote a friend who was already in cybersecurity. Told me about the five is I couldn't believe it so I watched a few videos and took twelve dollar course on unity as an introduction to cybersecurity. Couldn't stop since then end quote to those of you who are unfamiliar with the term. The five is not to be confused with five guys which is my favorite Britt junk food joint in New York is an intelligence alliance comprising of the US UK. Australia Canada and New Zealand we keep. EPS claims it is the largest espionage alliance in history. It's very interesting topic. And perhaps we'll expand on it in a future sure episode of militias life both Dj Jennings from Nebraska and six ton. Space Fly wrote to say that the movie hackers hers was their inspiration. Jennings wrote quote. I wanted to hack Gibson and six space fly wrote quote. I saw that that movie in Nineteen ninety-five and knew exactly what I wanted to do in life. One day I'll be elite like zero cool Smiley Mighty end quote. Maria from Luxembourg wrote years ago I found one vulnerability and was able to access some data and this happened unexpected actually after just some tries and commands the feeling was interesting in court. I think many of us can relate relate to that feeling Maria Robbie wrote quote high ran loved the show I work in web hosting and was always interested in how websites sites were compromised and the best way to beat. The hacker is to become the hacker so I started learning how to break websites and servers and quote become a hacker to beat the Hecker. That's so zen. And lastly I these pirate from India wrote quote wrote the very first time I was introduced to the world of cyber security is when I felt that rush when listening to the episodes of dark net diaries then from there came to militias life. And I'm hooked ever since here. I am now a guy trying to protect online privacy. Busy and quote thanks. 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EP. 330 - Ethan Suplee

Mark Bell's Power Project

1:53:24 hr | 6 months ago

EP. 330 - Ethan Suplee

"You know we're seeing a lot of people jumping on the carnivore diet lately but I think for some people sometime. That's too hard. That's not where I started with my diet. And so when I think back like man how does how could someone get started? And I'm getting a lot of questions like that. Seems really hard to only eat meat and I think a great place star is with Akito style diet. Makita Diet allows you for some more options. You get to kind of open up the playbook. It's okay if you have some veggies here and there it's okay if you You can even have some treats here in there to really really wonderful and I don't know if you guys tried the birthday cake Perfect Kito Bar. Yeah Holy Crap. They sent me some of those bad boys and I think they're gone unfortunately but hills delicious but I think he does a great place for people to start because sometimes being so locked into a carnivore diet can be really difficult now. Just got more options on Akito Day and another way for you guys get started is a cool little survival kit that we have from perfect. Kito case so we got four different items for of my favorites we. I had the mcat oil powder that powder that you add to your coffee every morning. The salted caramel flavor. I heard is actually amazing but mark here took it so you can get the MC powder then we have the instant Kito coffee which you can just. It's an instant coffee that you can have directly with water and then we have something wonderful. The Kito Nutro pick if you WANNA get into zone. Milder Zen mode right and be able to focus while the key on. Tropic is absolutely amazing. Andrew Hudson Cool points about it that. It's a fat soluble which works so well. Yeah because they're perfect. Kito neutral actually adds fat in. So you don't have to add in any of your own and makes it that way your body can actually absorb the neutral it also has actual Ki Ki tones in it in it. Yes pretty dope worked so well. And then lastly one of my favorites. Makita electrolytes so especially when days on low-carbon. No CARB GOTTA get some electrolytes before I do a lot of Jujitsu because I'm sweating and those electrolytes are awesome. I Love Them. Stops me from cramping get all my actual? I honestly think it was an unfair advantage that you might have had your last Jitsu match but I want to speculate controversy. Be careful there. Yeah you guys got a head over to perfect dot com slash power project at checkout use Promo Code Power Project Bundle for twenty five dollars off your order of one hundred dollars or more or use power project ten for ten dollars off any order of forty dollars or more like figured this one out but we've had like a few other ones. We had one that would go to nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine after it got like fifteen minutes. We don't know what that means but we really had a lot of struggles on the show so it hasn't been going so well. I guess I'm all so high tech. I can't believe that any one of these things could fail and it's shocking but it happens. I feel like we're at a news studio somewhere. Yeah it's not bad right that's awesome. Yeah pretty cool setup cool I'm ecstatic for today's show man because I think let's see three hundred something episode on exactly what it'll be but out of all the whole tenure of the power project. Podcast I don't think we've gotten more requests to have you on our show than anybody ever. Yeah as soon as you started your podcast and as soon as like people kind of caught wind to your your your transformation instantly. We're getting tagged in all your posts. Dm's left and right from people like dude. You GotTa get Ethan on site all right. We're working on it. We're trying and then you know. Talk to mark about in Bam here. You are so. Thank you so much for being here man. Thanks for having both sides I think are really going to be like dig today show. Yeah I'm excited. I I have gotten so many. It's been I like I can't even look at all of it. It's like Oh thousand comments. I can't read a thousand my whole day comments. It's been really what yeah people You know they love story right and More so than story people can really get behind a comeback story or people can get behind things that relate to them. You know in America today. I think We you know we obviously have. There's many issues out there and there's some larger than others but one of the biggest things that faces us as just ourselves and our addictions food and it gets. It gets to be really really hard so I think I think maybe before you were speaking about it before you had your podcast. I think that you know people. Maybe just didn't even recognize you write. It didn't even know that this is the guy from remember. The Titans is the guy from mallrats guy from all these other films and stuff That has had to be a big a big a big change for you now. You're talking about it. You are getting more and more comments. What was that like when you just? I mean you've already been famous. You already an actor. You're already in Hollywood. You're already on the set with some of the best people in the world whether it'd be a director writer producer or another high level actor But social media's brings a really interesting thing you to the mix like the the rock is like the greatest actor in the world via social media right like he has elevated his game to the point where now people are invested. They WANNA go. See the films Regardless of whether they regardless of what they think of the actual movie or what they think of his acting talent they are invested in him. They are supportive of him and They're supportive of new products and stuff that he does and so it's really elevated him To Heights that I think maybe otherwise he wouldn't have been able to to get to Without like instagram. What does that been like now that you're sharing the story and stuff like that? Oh Oh I had lost weight I had. I was actually quite a bit smaller than I am now I guess it was like two thousand ten. I weighed two hundred and twenty pounds. Which is about forty five pounds less than I am. Now I wasn't talking about it at all because I didn't actually like how I looked so it was kind of just like a place I had gotten to You know and and I went a little bit crazy with my eating habits. Then they were probably as unhealthy as I was when I was eating whatever I wanted but because I wasn't really comfortable with how I looked. I wasn't discussing it and then I find that. Instagram CHANGED THAT PARADIGM. Quite a bit. Because I was now in control of the pictures of myself. You know what I mean like. You can get a terrible picture of me now and back back. When I had lost a bunch of weight. Paparazzi would follow me around my bicycle to get pictures of like the loose skin on my leg or whatever it was and then there would be story saying. This is the downside of weight loss. It wasn't like God look what he's done. It was like look at the result. It's not great you know and so now I can go like here's an image of myself and I'm totally happy with I'M GONNA put it out there and whatever the reaction is going to be because I'm now happy with how I look Most of the time for the most part where I can touch that sense of pride which isn't constant. It's fleeting but I can find that I can muster it up. I can put it out there and I can talk about it. You know what I mean so I think that has been a the biggest the biggest difference in and then this time around the reception has been overwhelmingly positive. You know there are every now and again somebody will say something shitty. Am I allowed to say that working and you know at the end of the day? I don't really care about that. One person he said. You lost the weight Those like I was at your first time dropping that weight like that or have you done that before too. I started dieting in two thousand two. I was five hundred thirty plus pounds there was. I didn't have a scale at my house. That could weigh me but the last time I had been on a scale that could weigh me. I think it was five thirty six. That's the number I recall being but then I'm sure I gained weight from there so I was massive and I did a liquid diet for two months and I dropped eighty pounds and that was like a really big deal And then I and then I started eating solid food but very little food and I lost weight and I think I got down to around three hundred pounds and then I started doing. My name is earl in two thousand five so it took me about three years to lose to to get down to around three hundred pounds and then over the course of four and a half years. Doing my name is earl. I gained about one hundred pounds because I wasn't you know fourteen hours a day at work and not going into every day bringing my food. Which is what I do now when I go to the set. I don't ever show up without food. I'm not going to craft services and eating catering and stuff like that anymore. Because I can't I can't be in control of it and then after that I had all this free time when my name is earl was over and I started riding and racing bicycles and I got down to two twenty but was just not thrilled with that result. You know you were talking about control. I think you know there are some factors that really hurt people with their diet. You know and Environment is one of them. And so how do you like safe? Proof yourself once you leave your home. One thing. I have an issue with In in trying to help people trying to communicate with them I will say like okay. What's your plan like? What what are you going to do for the day? Do you know about the time that you're going to eat. Do you have a good understanding of that? And then do you know what you're going to eat or wear you're going to eat and so you control a lot of aspects once you cook your own food and then you know exactly what's in it and those kinds of things and then even let's just say catering You know let's just say catering is is good like let's say there's some healthy choices but maybe for you. It doesn't work great because you you're like Yeah I'm going to have a little extra this half a cookie. What's the big deal? But then you you've spin and spiral and trigger things that are Bad Habits and I think a really effective thing for people is to start to think about. What is your day going to look like? Maybe even roughly scheduler sketch out a canneries workout. 'cause there's different things emergencies. There's you work longer than expected. And there's things like that but if you have a decent idea I'm GONNA eat at nine thirty I'm gonNA eat at twelve. I'M GONNA start to get a schedule and then when you're hungry and you face these battles you're like oh well I have. I have chicken got rice. I got FRU like that's GonNa be awesome. I'm GONNA eat that and I'm you know I okay. I was hungry. I have the food here. I'm prepared boom. You eat it and you're over and you may have smelled a bunch of yummy food from everybody else walking by you but you're able to gain control by kind of control on your own environment. Yeah Yeah and and and to to that point you know I i. I love the general who says like the plan goes out of out the window. Once you get into the battle right but you can multiple plans lateral plans and you can jump over to another plan so like have your plan. If something happens that derails your plan have another plan and have a plan for if that gets derailed and you know. I don't go anywhere without food. Now always have protein powder and a Shaker bottle with me. All you need is water and you've got food about that slingshot protein though. It's just had some amazing. Yeah Yeah it was great and it. It tasted like chocolate milk. Like it really did two grams of CARBS. It was awesome. Yeah I only lie about the nutritional content and there's like eight hundred calories per well that's what it tasted like. I don't disbelieve you but I don't really go anywhere without food now Because you know the other thing is i. I don't believe that we as human beings have evolved to deal with the amount of food that is available to us like. I believe that we are programmed to store fat efficiently. I believed that we are programmed to see a Bush full of berries and eat every last berry even if we just ate a gazelle we're going to eat all the berries to store that sugar and we haven't spent enough time with the amount of food. We have accessible to ourselves to go like. There's a seven eleven which is like a berry tree patent full of calories. I'm just going to avoid it. No I'm going. Go eat everything in there. I'm going to get a slurpee and Slim Jim and a hotdog and some cookies and bars and all of it because it's so cheap we're not program we can't deal with this so I have to really excise all of that from being available to me and like pretend like that's not food that is not my source fuel. You know because I also get into the fact that I'm like comforting myself and feeling good emotionally by eating even though the minute. I'm done eating stuff like that. I feel super guilty so I just have to get rid of all of that and control one hundred percent. We hear that a lot. I'm an emotional eater. You know or have a bad relationship with food and I what I say to that is. We all have bad relationships with pizza. We all WANNA eat a lot of it and what you just said about. The berries is actually makes a ton of sense and keeps it very simple for people to understand What is it like to have if you did have emotional eating? And what do you think people are trying to reference there? I think there. There's what whatever whatever feelings within us that we can't deal with analytically. We can't think through them. They're just impulses or come compulsions or whatever it is we can deal with by having something that makes us feel good. Even if it's just for a moment we can control how we feel while. We're eating that now. That could come with regret afterwards. But you're in In that moment where like a drug addict isn't thinking this is GonNa suck when I come down. I understand what you're saying it like that's the trick with with Unhealthy FOOD IS A. It does work. You wanted French fries and you ate them. And you're like that was amazing and yeah like you said it could be regret afterwards but still did fill in that void. You want French fries you. You went for them. You ate them and you felt awesome. Because you're like this is so enjoyable to eat these French fries while you're watching a movie or watching TV or whatever it is that you're doing the kind of does work. Yeah Yeah I feel like. I'm battling constantly battling multiple personalities and so one personality could sit down and make a plan and say what is the the most efficient most accurate way for me to sustain or achieve some physical goal. I can make that plan. And then there's another guy who will come in and go but you really want the double double and you don't want it protein style. You want the bunny one extra cheese you want the fries but you want animal fries and then you want to order extra sauce and put that extra sauce on everything. And you want the fucking in-n-out dust salt so don't lose a single grain of salt it sticks to everything you know what I mean. You don't wind up with salt at the bottom of your scraping the cheese off the OH. Yeah they serve. You're eating the paper. That Burger King might eat. Some don't care doesn't matter so there's these two guys and like they're fighting and I have to go like this guy that made this plan. I'M GONNA stick with this guy and when this other guy comes in who goes but you had a shitty day and that cheeseburger will make you feel good. I gotTa tell that guy to go fuck himself and you know what I mean I really do and I have to keep telling him that and the more I tell him that the less power he has and I might have to tell us coming around and he's like Amen. Yeah I told you to go fuck yourself fuck out of here and by the way he might disappear for a week and then like when you're a little tired and a little hungry he may pop up with a lot of enthusiasm and the time and then you're like yeah fuck together with the plan and you still have to stay with. I'm sticking to my plan. Whatever my plan is by the way my plan might include a double double with a bunt at some point. So does that actually fit in for you? Then because like you know it's GonNa Happen. You know at some point you may actually want or need to have that Burger. Do you set up. Cheap meals for yourself. Do you structure that. Or How's that work? Yeah I don't I don't consider them chief because I plan them and so if it's a part of smoke you don't get any ideas over there and he's going to be like these are all plan. These are all these got seven cheat today. Yeah every meal is cheat meal no but I think if if I if I go if I if I look at what? I'm actually going to like you know there are what what are capabilities. What can I actually to? How long can I go without having some food? That makes me feel good. His for the most part I am trying to not have that sensation with food and to just have it be a fuel source so at some point it's like I'm not just drinking protein shakes which I could get fuel from them and have like you know with no flavor I like I enjoy the flavor like the protein powder just had was delicious. That's nice eventually. I'M GONNA have a quote unquote cheat meal. I'm going to put up restrictions around that cheat meal and I'm not GonNa go beyond them so if I have a double double or even to double doubles but the plan is to double doubles. I'm not going to have a third one even if I still want so. It's still has to be structured and I'm going to consider what my energy output is for that day and make sure doesn't like curse the week of hard work I've just done I found in the past one. Just have a cheat day. I would undo the whole week and so then I moved to cheat meal. I can still eat quite a bit in one meal. I can probably eat seventy five hundred calories in a meal and then I'm just sick for a couple of days which is not saying either so I structured and I don't go out of those boundaries so it's still part of my thing. I love what you're saying. You know he got basically these rules of engagement. You know you're about to have a competition or a fight against maybe even just yourself against some of the urges that you've had before and you will because of all that I should probably. I should probably set up a little bit of a game plan. You know maybe okay these urges keep coming to me for some reason. Pizza keeps calling me and Rather than like go off the deep end and really mess up. Maybe I'll plan for like next. Friday I'll I'll I'll have some pizza And then maybe Wednesday and Thursday. Maybe I'll exercise a little bit more. Friday comes around. Maybe I'll get a good workout before I go and have that pizza and then maybe even try to quote unquote works some it off which can also be Sometimes not a great path to go down as well but if you do so in a structured way that it can be very safe because you're doing a little bit of A. You're I think you're just being very rational and very reasonable about it like I did this so because I did that. I'm going to make sure that I do this to help counteract some of them. Yeah and yes exactly. And there's never a point where it's a free for all there's never a point where it's like. I'm showing up at the buffet and I'm eating until I'm again. That's specific towards you and your situation. Yeah I'm not advocating. Anybody do what I do. I'm just saying for me. I found this to be workable. I found that I if I I've been married for a long time. I'm in a very have the best wife ever prior to her. If I had a girlfriend and I started thinking about another girl and it led me to any actions with the other girl. Even if it wasn't like cheating on the girl every step led me further and further from the relationship. I was in the you know what I mean and this is kind of an analogy to anything for me. One side once. I cheat on something. I'm no longer doing that thing as much as I was. Yeah there's you know. Even something like Instagram. Which you could think is fairly innocent It's a feed right. They refer to it as a feed stuff that you're consuming and so you'll be careful. How many butts are consuming today? If you're if you want your relationship to continue to grow and continue to prosper then Maybe allowing your mind to wander too much is you know maybe have maybe set up some guidelines some rules. Yeah Food Yeah. Setup rolls stick to him but B B. Be Aware of what you're capable of and if you have to look at but on instagram look at A. But but don't look butts for five hours or whatever your structure is what other rules have. You set up for yourself like so you. You don't go anywhere without your food that you had you do structure these meals in. What whatever structures. Have you set up yourself that allowed you to be so successful? This consistently exercise some some kind of exercise pretty much every day other than Sunday Sunday arrest. I still have. I still want to get around five thousand steps on Sunday but it's not like a forced march. It's not hitting Jim but every day. I WANNA get ten thousand like Monday through Saturday. Ten thousand steps and time in the gym I I do go back and forth between fasted cardio like right when I wake up and then warming up at the gym after having breakfast so I haven't. That's not been fixed but there is some cardio every day a certain amount of steps and weightlifting and food. The that's been my structure and sleep. I find to be pretty important to what was repeatable in the beginning because I think that finding things that you mentioned You know having stuff that you can actually do. I think like Holy Crap. Like what a great focus you know and if you were to sit down with someone at six hundred pounds now and You know you start throwing everything out all right man like we gotta go to the Gym Wyoming. We gotta go to the gym. We gotta get on this Diet. You'RE GONNA eat a lot of protein. It's like Holy Shit like they're getting hit with a lot of stuff. What was something like an actionable item that you could start with? Was there one thing you're able to start with? And then repeat it for maybe a few days a few weeks and gain momentum through that I found I started with A liquid diet so like I mean I think it is certainly different for everybody but if we talk about like being morbidly obese. I would not suggest like go out and start exercising. I don't know if you're physically capable of that. I was not in a place. Where at my heaviest? I was going to be going to the J. I also think that this is a very misunderstood piece. You know because some people like dude as mental but it there's a lot of different things going on When you're in that condition and I I would say like the best thing to do is just not speak upon it. If you've never been there I've never been in your shoes so I have been heavy before and I do know that. Even just from being heavy I wanted to move less. You know I was like I don't feel like going to the mailbox or like my back gets pumped or my shins get pumped from you know. Walk in one hundred yards. I I can't imagine what it'd be like to be You know two hundred pounds heavier something like that. It's got a really Play into everything that goes on and every single day. Yeah I mean. They're constant aches and pains standing. Your feet are just almost always sore. You're sweating you're out of breath with just a little bit of movement you take up much more space than anyone else so going and then there's concerns about sitting on chairs like. I remember a long period of my life where it was like. Am I going to break this chair? As I'm sitting was kind of something that I was always thinking and it would be like almost a full minute before I would let my weight fully go. You know where. I'm just easing into feeling if structurally the thing is gonNA hold up I think Being realistic with yourself is very important because we can set such a high goal that is maybe unattainable and then by not attaining this unattainable goal. We feel like a failure and we give up and we don't do anything so I actually think. Smaller goals are more important immediately. You know at some point you can set a higher goal. Once you've achieved a bunch of little goals but my day one was just. I have three protein shakes and one gallon of water. And that's what I'm consuming today. I'm not going to leave my house and I'm GonNa make sure I don't consume anything and it was just like I'm GonNa get through this that and I'm not GonNa think about anything else and I think constantly like almost as a mantra every time those other voices sneak into sale. Like why? Have another idea here? You can do this. Let's change it. No I'm staying the course. I'm going to follow this path and I'm GONNA get this goal one day and then just string those together. Where'd you get that concept trump? Something you kind of just did yourself or you read somewhere about it or something like that. Yeah I just it was just well. No some of it comes from. I'M A SOBER PERSON. So some of it comes from a You know they say take it a day at a time which can be really difficult because a day can be dauntingly huge amount of time in this case taking a meal at a time a meal at a time and I would break it down to two sometimes minutes at a time like in that minute when I am having an urge to deviate from my path. I'm just going to get through this minute and then I will rely reevaluate after I get through this minute so it was so it was a little bit of that too. I think they're they're Very similar thing You know addiction to anything. You have to have tools like that to help you get through it. What about just being like Hungary three proteins. There's somebody listening right now. And they're like man. I would be massively Hungary Were you insanely hungry? And did the hunger maybe over a period of time that it like dissipate a little bit. Yes I was insanely hungry but I found that and this has been true for the last eighteen years. Dieting hunger goes away like I have not been hungry and not eaten and just stayed hungry eventually. Your body just goes like okay. We're going to think about something else so it is just something to get through. It's like a momentary thing and if you look at like graphs and stuff on hunger your hunger will spike and do. It's normal thing with or without food. That's a weird thing to think about. But like when I was three thirty I was still hungry. And when you were five fifty or whatever the wait was you were still hung. You still had a lot of hunger even though you're obviously we're eating right. Yeah yeah I I would. I just think it's a I think it's a bunch of confusing stuff that we've been programmed or whatever to pay attention to hunger what we want. What we feel is right for ourselves. Seven eleven fast food like that for me can't a source of fuel. It just can't a hunger for me cannot always be an indicator of whether I need to consume a bunch of fat or a bunch of carbohydrates. You know what I mean. It's okay if I'm hungry. What should I be eating to fuel my body to satiate hunger? It's not can't just be what the one WACKADOO voice says. Time to get the double double. I can't listen to that guy. You know what I mean I so I think there's a lot of things that play a part on in how we consume calories. That are that we could just stop listening to you. Think about like Being hungry right like if we don't solve that problem within like thirty forty minutes like we're in a real panic and I agree with what you're saying in terms of like having that food with you because in your specific case you get to dampen that hunger and you're like well I had something and even if it's only a protein shake it some. It's something it just it sues you calms you down like the urge to have sex or the urge for masturbation you do it. It's out of your system and you're like cool like I'm I'm good for a little while I. I think it's a massively important to have a plan for those things as you're pointing out but just everybody knows and everyone's on the same page hunger doesn't mean that you need to eat within five minutes hunger used to mean it's time to go hunt right and you are acutely ready your brain your body. You know. That's why everyone's like. Oh Man I I feel so Sharp when I'm fasting. That's kind of the reason why is because now you had to go hunt down an animal and if you didn't get the animal imagine be really hungry But if you did get something you know. You're able to solve that problem. How long? How long would it take to get an animal? How long would it take the skin and to get to it and you know I'd Imagine You know a tribe where you have a lot of people that need to eat too so it. It could take several hours before you get to your food. So if you think about it it doesn't mean to walk to the frigerator necessarily You know if you have that convenience. You don't have a weight problem. Maybe it's not a huge deal but just realized that your hunger is a signal towards okay. It's time to get food Sometime within the framework of this day right but not within the next two minutes. Yeah I love that I I think. A lot of what has changed. My thoughts on food have been thinking about it in those kinds of terms. Famine has killed a lot of people historically pre historically so our bodies have have adapted to famine because it kills you before It can kill you so quickly before you can procreate which is really the key in changing genetics if you die prior to procreating or you are experiencing a famine something affects your body that deeply that can have a change on your offspring. So what happens is we now are programmed to eat carbohydrates whenever we come into contact with them to eat as much as we can and so now in this convenient world where food is so abundant. We're just like following these that we have that don't apply anymore. You know what I mean. So so the idea of hunger being time to eat. And there's a McDonald's right next door so I'm GONNA eat that because that's called food week. We ought to think about it differently. Hunger might be a good time to work out. You know what I mean. Which is totally counterintuitive. Because you'd be hunting you'd be active right for you. Where does this philosophy of food fuel come from because you hear talked about a lot but not many people like live that way and I can tell at this point? This is the way you go about everything. So when did you change from food is being something that makes you feel good to the fuel aspect of things it was it was just it was? It was when I started re like I had for a long time growing up in La We had You know Fat is bad for you. We went through that period. We went through the period. When salt was bad for you. We went through the period. Win Sugar was bad for you High Fructose Corn Syrup was bad for you night shades. Were bad for you and nightshade yet. Just vegetables right. Oh Yeah eggplant tomato pepper certain types of and then like more. Recently it was electons which are another I think. Many nitrates have a lot of electons. Yeah you know. Msg As bad for you and yet. It's in so much food naturally so all these things throughout my life and I think. La's the epicenter. And Well Shit. I Have Candida if I just cure my candied. I will be a normal person. So what does that mean? That means I get rid of these foods and then it was like no. I've been doing it wrong. Because I- dairy dairy is my problem and then it was. No you've been eating egg yolks. You know so. I've had these these for the for the longest time these kind of zealots pushing or or or I've been receiving the message that all of my problems lied in like one specific type of and you know Brown. Rice is better than White Rice. And now no that's not true. White Rice is better than brown rice. And he'll you can't keep track of it I you know and then it was. Carbohydrates was the most recent thing and I finally got sick of it and was like this is all bs like. I'm going to actually figure out and find out what what does a carbohydrate do. Because I didn't know oh a carbohydrate allows your muscles to hold onto liquids so that you have energy in your muscles well. That doesn't seem so bad. Why am I being told that that's poison? I want my muscles. I want more muscle than a half so I just started studying about what has fat do what does protein do. And when I got down to it I was like oh I can basically eat whatever I want as long as I'm getting enough protein and I'm in a caloric deficit and so I just started living that way I found. Though that certain foods would would Instigate the feeling of eating more of them. Yeah so that's when I was like fuck this. I'm being emotional. Yeah this is not for emotion. This is not to make me feel good. This is just a few of my body. I'm not going to think of it. Many other terms yeah weighing your food can help Regulate the overall calories that you take but also the food choices can really help with that a lot and so you kind of pick whatever side you want to jump on first but you pick something that feels like repeatable to you. What was repeatable to you as in terms of you mentioned the liquid diet being in the first place you started where you exercising at the time where you're implementing any like walking or anything at that time now for two months no nothing and I I I didn't have a whole lot at all. And honestly I think the first time My girlfriend was like we're going to leave the house. And we're GonNa go and do something and you're GonNa be okay. I was like a frail baby scared of the world and scared of like am I gonNa like accidentally find myself doing lines of French fries in the bathroom at McDonalds or something like that. You know what I mean like. That was my fear and I went into. The world stared with my protein. Shake and then it was just a time that got me through that but but I didn't start exercising really until I had lost some way and I had had that like that wonderful feeling of success at achieving a goal and I was nowhere near my long term goal. It was just like I did two months. I lost eighty pounds. That's huge okay. Now what happens if I start to move around also losing body? Fat Is IS TREMENDOUSLY THERAPEUTIC. And it feels it feels really good to to a certain extent certain point but also gives you a lot of energy out of nowhere. You're probably like hey like okay. Getting out of the house ain't so bad. I wonder if I could walk a little bit or get a little more movement in there. What was the first of form of exercise? You started to use once you to feel better. The I was just walking around. It was a girl from would just go like let's go walk around the block and the first few times doing that. I really was kicking and screaming. Not Enjoying it not wanting to do it and then I started to like look around and feel more comfortable in the environment and I started to enjoy that and and then after that I think I went. I went to a gym and I was using the gym. Just as exercise there was no thought of like muscled retention or cardiac. I wasn't thinking in those terms at all. It was just. I'm in a place with a lot of stuff to to that you used that you move your body on and I'm GONNA move my body on them and I'm going to sweat and I'm GonNa feel better and I always felt better when I left the gym. You know thinking about your situation. I think mark mentioned this. Like if you've never been five hundred and something pounds so you can't really speak on that so you knowing what you're doing then you mentioned that you you gained weight and he lost weight multiple times going back to it like. I think you said in two thousand ten year like what you got down to two hundred to two twenty but I was twelve and to twenty so actually on that one. How did you drop all of that weight? And then what did it look like? I guess from Twenty Ten to twenty twenty now I my name. Israel ended in two thousand nine and I woke up one day and was like what am I gonNa do today. and I just got on my bicycle and start riding my bicycle around and it was like a beach cruiser and I lived in the hills in Hollywood and I was riding up a really steep hill and it was hard and at the end of that ride which only lasted an hour. I was like that was really fun. I wonder if there's some way to get up the hill faster so that I keep going rather than you know. I know there are bikes. That are more equipped for this so then I started looking at different bikes and I got to the point where I was riding my bike eight hours a day six days a week. Wow and four hours on Sunday and that was my recovery day And then you know. I got really into like cycling and followed all the races and went to the tour of France twice in Rhode most of the stages and and I mean you know in cycling. Those dudes WanNa be as thin as possible. 'cause you are the most efficient on a bike when you're thin as possible and so for a while. I was only allowing myself to eat while riding the bike and I would just have little liquid liquid Joe's pub bonk breakers which are like an energy bar and you know have a few in my pocket probably eating thousand fifteen hundred calories a day and doing eight hours of hard cardio. One hundred and fifty mile ride in a day with lots of mountains That's not sustainable. That's not rational and smart and when I got to to twenty. I did not love how I looked. I felt weak. I had no upper body mass. I had gigantic legs And I wasn't happy. Yeah you know and then it also at the time you know I looked very. I thought I looked weird and it wasn't good for work and so I was like well. I'm not GonNa do this anymore. I'm just GONNA whatever I want and I gained weight again. How much did you gain back? I think I'd probably got back up to around. Four hundred four hundred seventy five four hundred and when you got there. I'm guessing like did you start this out when he started entering the gym or like. How did that start for you know I actually was lifting weights the whole time? Because yes because I felt better after the gym. After going in lifting weights. I felt better so I was eating whatever I want. I wasn't I wasn't going to him trying to lose weight. I wasn't even about putting on muscle. I was just eating whatever I wanted and going to the gym and I wound up around four hundred pounds And like I look at pictures of myself from then and I had good traps like I. I've always liked traps so I was kind of muscular but I was really big. Yeah you just To clear it up again you say you went to two twenty. Then you gained a lot of weight back and then ended up weighing four hundred pounds him. We had a guy on the podcast that explained weight loss us and he basically said and this is something that people can you know take an and and maybe just think about is that you mentioned earlier that the body is really good at like Holding honest you know holding onto fat and things like that you can kind of think about you. Know we have muscle memory somebody You know who's really well built? They'll train for fifteen years. And then they stop and they lose a bunch of muscle mass they back into the gym and it all just explode back onto their body but I think we have You know fat memories too you know. I mean Joe Greene. Explain that in in in one of our episodes basically just describing it Almost if your fat cells Have rubber bands on them. So you know your fat cells. We're kind of like this. You shrunk them down. You did a great job. But they're still there and now because you went from five hundred to two twenty Now there's a ton attention on them and they're ready the ready at any moment like they're like Yo soon as you start to give us food like we're ready to ramp back up and then they start to exploiting and obviously this is this all has to do with control it you know. I don't. I'm not a believer. That anything other than yourself you know makes yourself fat but trying to perpetually be in a weight loss situation all the time even for somebody who's obese just isn't a great idea. You should probably try to have breaks you probably You know it's great that it worked out the way that you're able to get back on top of it and gain control again but I think so. Many people you know. Losing weight is not a problem. In America. Keeping off is the biggest issue Many people been successful at losing ten twenty thirty pounds which is awesome but then they gain it back in a lot of times. We hear that they gained it back. And then some super Super Frustrating you know. A lot of people are trying to figure it out and it's very very difficult so in your journey. I one thing that I find unique about you. We haven't had other people really talk about is. You're talking a lot about muscle mass and I think that's great and your use. I think you said to sixty nine to sixty to sixty five awesome. You feel great. Hey fucking jazz. So there's a there's a difference between going from fat too skinny you know and we talked a little earlier today about how sometimes big guy will come way down you start to kind of look stringy and weird. You don't look like yourself anymore and you look like melted candle at some point which is still all amazing that you lost the weight But we still want to be prideful and still WanNa have a good look and we want our body to do a lot of the work for us you know when you were over five hundred pounds. You were slave to the food when you were to twenty. You were a slave to your body. Now you're somewhere in the middle which is a great spot to be because now your body is working for you. You invested the time and energy to put the muscle on and so your your muscle. Mass is chewing up a lot of your calories. Yeah Yeah and and I've I've I hadn't ever done this before but this time around. I've done a bunch of maintenance periods where you know I I'm used to like what's my goal. I WANNA be expounds which I don't even really think about pounds anymore. I just go like okay. This is a good size. I actually want to put on muscle at some point so the pounds are kind of irrelevant but whatever my size is right now is good but normally would go. I'm here I want to be here. I'm dieting straight through and what. I found helpful. This time is maintenance periods where I go like okay wherever I am. I've been dieting for eight weeks. I'm just GONNA take four weeks and and you know I'm not eating whatever I want. Whatever that one crazy voice wants but I'm not losing weight for four weeks and I'm kind of allowing my body to adjust to what wherever I'm at you know what I mean. It's super hard. It's all of this by the way everything is a fight you know what I mean. Introducing carbohydrates back into my diet was a brutal fight because I hadn't eaten them in so long. I gained eight pounds even though my calories were under in three days. Eight pounds and getting on the scale every day. I was like this is insane. Why do I keep like I'm just GonNa get fat again? And then it's settled out. And then that water came off and I started losing weight again but every step of it I have to be super analytical. Think through it. Use reason use logic use the scientists scientific evidence that. I can look at and go. This is the way this works and I'm going to give it a shot and I'm going to see what happens and like a maintenance period you know you almost feel like I'm wasting time but you're not because the point is at some point you're gonna live this way you know and if you can't do that in the middle of a diet you're not gonNa make it when you're done with the Diet correct me if I'm wrong but it would sort of look a little bit like this. Maybe and now you started out with kind of a harsh thing with the liquid but aside from that Maybe in the beginning you ha- you cut out just like junk food. In general. Did He make a decision on where you're going to eat meat and some carbohydrates and things like that as you start your diet as you get into it you might be like okay? Well you know this is working pretty good. I lost some weight I'm going to take it down a notch a little bit and instead of getting the fattier meats. I'M GONNA get the leaner meats instead of putting butter on my potatoes and stuff. I'm GONNA use like fat free sour cream or just not put anything on there and just kind of suck it up and you do that for a period of time and you're like okay cool. I lost ten pounds. I lost twenty pounds. Lost thirty pounds. You get a little stuck like all right. Well maybe I should switch things up. Maybe you just sick of it. You know you're like fuck. I'm training hard. I'm doing a lot of things. Were the right way. Let Me Kinda serve myself. Backup some fun foods. Let me bring some of those fats back in. Put the butter on potatoes. Maybe have some butter on the eggs. Maybe even bring in like Kito for a little bit too so it's completely different thing and I get to eat bacon and cheese and enjoy some of those things. Is that a little bit. How how it looked for you. Yeah I think if we if you if you give version where you're not dealing with all my mental illness that's how it looked. That is pretty much how it looked but this was a constant fight with myself over. What do I do? What is my goal? What am I doing? You know what I mean an end like not just not giving up also and is but yes. That's pretty much how it looked you you. I don't. I'm not sure what you meant by mental illness there but you did mention addiction before so what I'm curious about is throughout this whole process. I guess maybe it's been eighteen years of this battle with your with your weight. How did I don't know what you had addictions too? But how did that play into all of this? Because I can imagine that that would make dieting very difficult or sticking to it very difficult. How did you? How did you fix all of that? Yeah I basically just mean any of the you know. I don't believe that there's just me who's doing this thing. Yeah Yeah there's a lot of different. You know a lot of different versions of me within me and so if if I can sit down and as rationally as possible formulate a plan that one version of me wants there's going to be other versions of me trying to attack that plan right. So that's what that's another word for what I would call mental illness. The deviation from that plan would be. Clearly illogical irrational. You know what I mean so I find that the best way to beat those guys which are still me is to just go exercise and walk around. I. There's we live in California. There's some of the most beautiful you can go to the beach. You can go to the mountains you can go to the desert like we have so much space that we can go to outside. Look around and just feel better at the end of a walk. You know I'm sorry it's not I kinda talking about like mental illness and then how to kind of You know be able to still diet you know. Kinda while doing stuff like that but I like what you're saying here because I have not heard it really framed that way before. And then you know it gets to be a touchy subject and people you know. Sometimes they get offended by everything nowadays but like It definitely is. There's definitely a huge issue with. Here's my goal I. I know that I'm heavy. I'm heavier than I WANNA be. I agreed to this plan. I wrote down even wrote down the plan. I took the time to think about it. I took the time study it. I watched a lot of youtube videos. I had a conversation with my girlfriend or my wife or my parents and said hey you know I'm trying this new thing. I WanNa let you know this is. I'm going all in on this thing and then there you are you know with a bunch of wrappers candy around in the middle of the night so that that definitely you know if you came to us and said. Here's here's what I'm doing and then we saw you. You know eating a bunch of candy and stuff would be like dude. You're crazy what are you doing? That's that's kind of crazy. It's kind of like why you mentioned this goal in this plan. The had and everything you did aligned with all the goals that you had good quality Could quality things that we're doing towards those goals and I just completely threw it out the window. I don't understand you. Were trying to be faithful this concept and you went off the rails again right and I but I think. I don't think there's any person who doesn't have impulses. I think some people may have to fight harder to beat them. But I think you can. I don't I wouldn't just cave and go well. Those impulses are GonNa win so I'm just going to do what they say you know because I've done that and it's not and you wind up in a place you don't WanNa be so I have to constantly be trying to figure out how to beat myself. You know the same thing if a dude comes in here with a gun bus in right now and start shooting people. There's going to be a version of me. That goes hide. There's going to be a version of me. That goes attack with this pen. There's GonNa be a version of me that goes like put attorney kit on the lady who got shot. You know what I mean. There's GonNa be a bunch of those things I have to hopefully go with the version. That's going to be the most rational but I can't guarantee that I'm going to do that without like training and repetitions on those things you know what I mean so with the Diet. Like like driving a car If somebody honks there could be version of you that jerks the wheel. But you gotta get used to the Hawks right and no like okay. Somebody honked. What does that mean? Look around I'm going to take. I'm going to do oud loop from the military observe Orient Decide and act like right. You take all the information and you use it in the best possible way. But that's work. It's not just innate. Okay well what else? What else curious about thinking Was like did alcohol. Like how did you deal with a lot of that because like we had Chris Bell on the podcast before and he had to be he had to deal with that to be able to get his died in line? Was that an issue that you were dealing with at the time to or not really. I've got so bor I got sober. I Yeah I mean. I don't think I could have look. I don't think everybody has to be over. My wife is not sober for for the longest time. I don't know what we would do now because right now. I'm low fat but we would go to. She loves to DRINK WINE IN SO NAPA or Italy or France and more going around to the vineyards. I'm taking little taste of olive oil because all the wigner vitner make olive oil to you know what I mean doing little olive oil to taste them the bread usually they'd go like you WanNa taste the olive oil. Here's a loaf of bread and at the time. I was not doing that. And so they'd give you a little symbol evolve. Were throwing these back in my wife's tasting wine. That's how I can navigate that now when I first got sober I certainly would not have been out with somebody who's tasting wine like it wouldn't have been the right thing to do but with enough time and enough repetitions of here's what happens. How do I feel when somebody's drinking? What does that do to me? There's alcohol at our house now. I'm never tempted to drink it. I have a lot of time in practice now. The gating that you know what I mean like I can now go out to dinner with my family and figure out what to eat or have eaten at home or sneak. A little tupperware container under the table. Which I've done like I can figure it out. It's not it's not scary. It's I'm not worried about the voices who are going to go like your kids dessert. That's not an issue anymore but it took a lot of practice thanks. Sobriety is something that can help a lot of people Lose weight could really help a lot of people. Because I think it's a slippery slope Were maybe have a couple of drinks than you eat Something that's not great for you and then there's so much research about sleep you know if you're not sleeping properly you're going to have more More urges give me more hungry GonNa have more cravings Being that big. You Know Your Sleep Bus. Ben Just all over the place right it was terrible. I had sleep apnea Yeah I wasn't sleeping a lot and then you know during the day driving my car sometimes just stopping at a red light. I'd fall asleep via it was not good. Yeah how did so when you just lost the weight? Was that one thing. That obviously helps sleep. Did you do anything on other than that? To multiply your sleep or no. No Okay I do notice now If I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes I have to take like a big handful of amino acids because sometimes being hungry affects my sleep But I sleep generally pretty good but I do if I wake up hungry. I'm GONNA have a protein shake have some amino acids something like that so that I know I get back to sleep and I was also curious about this because you mentioned it before you mentioned how like when you're when you lost a lot of weight some Pete like I guess. Individuals are trying to cast. You couldn't recognize you. Did you ever feel that it was necessary for you to be bigger to actually get roles or was it? Was that ever a pressure for you or not really. It was. Yeah I mean I remember talking to a casting director. Who said like you know you're so much more interesting at a bigger weight. You know so. That was surely a thing that happened And it happened and an end and I cared. That happened so that might have played a part in gaining weight again. I just don't think I really care at this point because I also wasn't comfortable at being thin and I was properly thin. You Know I. I don't feel thin. Now chaffetz bro Comfortable. Now I'm not. I'm not walking around thinking I looked great. I don't but I'm way more comfortable now than I was. Forty pounds fifty pounds lighter than I am. Now got it when you first got started like when you know after my name is earl and stuff. Did you go to a right away or was that district to the cycling? It was straight to the cycling. I think I I was cycling. I went and visited a buddy. Who's doing a movie? Australian actually packed my bike. So my bike with me and while. I was there He was like come to the gym today. Instead of going on your bike ride and I did and and the Australians were doing. I don't think it was crossed it but it looked like cross fit but this might have also been before crawfish got big hair but I saw an Erg the rower and and I and my buddy was like you have strong legs. Let's see what you can do on this and I crushed everybody there and these were like big Big Australian dudes who are like super competitive and and my buddy was like. You should do this and so the minute. I kind of slowed down on cycling. I bought an urge and started like training a lot on that. I did a marathon on a rowing machine. I think in two thousand eleven the concept to get the little card and you can put it in your computer and like be on the leader board and stuff I think for the and seniors didn't feel like a senior but I'm a senior and a heavyweight. I think I was like ninth or tenth for a thirty minute effort which was pretty damn good because everybody else was like Olympic rowing guys so I started doing that and then I got a Keto balanced doing kettlebells swings. I did do cross fit for a while. Hurt my knee. So that was kind of the end of my crawfish. During which was not very long. I also never felt good about doing those Olympic lifts fast. Yeah you know I mean there are parts of that. That are fast but really. It's like let's do this one time really well fifty times shitty and I hurt my knee and so that was kind of when I started more strictly weightlifting guy. Because I asked because I'm sure like some of the like the thousands of people that you've inspired with your your transformation. They're they're they're nervous right. They're scared there because they've been the bigger guy or the bigger gal and they don't want to go to the gym where the people that are in shape that have probably made fun of them or said something bad to them. They don't really want to do that but it seems like you didn't really have that like issue when you started training like with the ear buddy and Australian stuff. Yeah I because we saw today right like when the you you and mark how that last drops like Oh shit. I was like I if he dealt with that too in the past. Yeah I of course I think though like if you go to the gym and you're you're really thinking about what it look. It's hard I'm their marks. Going to do a certain amount of wraps and listen my. I was doing less weight than him every time. But he's going to do a certain amount reps. I'm GonNa feel weird doing less reps. That's something you gotta fight through because the only person I'm really competing within the gym is myself really. It's just there unless you're in weightlifting. Competition or something but you go to the gym. The other people there should be completely irrelevant. You know what I mean and like and this is something I have to fight through in my day to day life anyway but like there's a lot of embarrassment. I still have plenty that I'm embarrassed about with my body but is that embarrassment. GonNa beat me. You know what I mean like. I have to beat that. That's just another voice trying to mislead me mall that is it is more mental illness. Bullshit and I and I'm not denying I'm not saying that it's not there. It's there and you gotTa beat it. You GotTa push that Guy Aside and make the goal guy the guy who has the hat on. That's the time to go to the gym guy. You GotTa follow that Guy. Because that guy is the guy who's going to take you where you WANNA go. You replace some of that with work to just you know working at your trade getting into Jim Walking. These are all things that are like yeah like I. I am working on becoming the person that I've always wanted to be you know and it's okay that if I don't feel like I'm one hundred percent there because if you really think about it I don't know anybody that's just like Yep I'm told I bother are people that might feel that way. They might be older and stuff but for the most part everyone wants to like. Yeah it could be a little bit better this thing. I want to improve their. Yeah Yeah exactly and I think like if you're GONNA go like those voices or those urges or those compulsions. I can't beat them then. I don't know I then I can't motivate you than what I did doesn't work right and that and I. I would never assume that it will work for everyone. I just don't think we're all. I don't think the same thing is true for every person but I do think if you can ever if you've ever beaten one of those voices if you've ever beaten one of those parts of yourself that is an urge towards something that you don't ultimately want if you've ever beaten at once you can beat it again and that's all you have to know to be true to be able to beat those those urges those compulsions you know and if you've beaten it in a different area of your life you can beat it in another area. You know if you. I share this with people all the time even shared it with my dad at one point. I'm like you know you're so you're so strong you know you're you're very very powerful you know and I didn't mean like in the gym or anything like that just meant You're somebody that that You know when you decide to do something you do it with everything you've got. You just have one area where when you walk by potato chips you know you start to eat one and you have more and so on and you know I was like if you can take some of the other things that you've done in your life where you have tons of discipline like you never bras to football practice late you know. You never showed up to work late and you worked for. Ibm for twenty years. Or whatever whatever it might be you know and I think a lot of people need to take that mentality. If you're a mom if you are a dad you have a nine to five. And you've been steady with it for a long time or just graduated college in any of these things. These are all points on the scoreboard. These are things that this means that you had discipline or have disciplined somewhere and you could take that discipline and you can start to think I can okay. You know. I'm five hundred pounds and I make a lot of mistakes with my food I can do. I can do better than Wayne. Five hundred pounds. I could start working on way in four hundred and fifty pounds right. Yeah if you yeah. That's so wonderful. Because if you have discipline in any area of your life you can. You can just figure out the formula for that and apply it to another. Do you wipe your ass every time you go to the bathroom do you. I do yeah. I've never missed. I've never not been disciplined to make sure cleaned up and even carry around baby. Wipe by the way yeah. That's discipline was disciplined in the morning. Right there you go. I work on some of that with my kids but but I do that. I have disciplined over that. I don't miss that. There's nothing that would make me. I would be. I would have my attention on all day and feel kind of crappy. How many times have you traveled in? Forgot like toothpaste or toothbrush. You go to the store the next day like fuck I GOTTA. I got to figure this out for talk to anybody kill anybody. Yeah Yeah discipline if you can find discipline in any aspect of your life you can apply it to to to any other aspect of your life. That's wonderful before the whole weight weight. Loss of start in two thousand two like you're obviously acting a lot before that too. Were you an extremely disciplined actor. Did that help anything that you were trying to do. When you start focusing on doing weight loss or was the whole thing kind of new I I think I think I learned like maybe not right in the beginning I've been doing. I've been an actor since I was a kid And so you know you learn like hey if I'm late. There are hundreds of people who are literally waiting on just me and therefore I'm wasting their time and then the bosses money and like you. You can get a get an idea like that's not cool. I don't WanNa be the guy holding up hundreds of people so I don't think I learned that I I didn't walk into it with that discipline but I did get a sense of that. I also feel like manners are important you know and so how would? I want to be treated. I don't WanNa be waiting on some somebody for some stupid reason like 'cause they just were laid or they just don't care like that's dumb So I I learned disciplined enacting And the two rules that I have been fairly consistent with our beyond time and know the lines I have to say and and outside of that you can be super creative and you know they can be artistic but like those two points. I am very disappointed with God. Yeah an it's like that's just simple right there. So you got two main roles you know and What I like about lots of stuff. You've been talking about even when we're talking to the gym. It wasn't any special requirement of you Having some sort of super power or some sort of special genetics or some sort of special circumstances. It's just been you know. I took this simple principle and I try to carry that everywhere I go. Yeah and and apply it to every part of my life you know. I think it's a I think. Discipline is important and and also like understanding that. I'm going to try to talk myself out of it and that it's my job to slap myself in the face when I do. You know what I mean. How many children do you have four four Julia for four girls? And what are the ages? Twenty three twenty one fourteen twelve. Yeah and so you mentioned you've been at this diet for eighteen years. I would imagine bringing kids into the picture some cases probably made it harder. 'cause like I don't know we. We love our kids and we want to feed them junk. And we probably shouldn't we do But also probably helped instill the discipline more because you wanna live for them. Have a good strong healthy life Partially because of them. How how did they play into the picture? I think that that's a huge part of it is The idea that I don't I don't want my I don't want to miss. A huge portion of my kids lives. You know. I WANNA see grandkids. I WANNA I WANNA be around for them for as long as possible and I want to be a good example to them also you know I want. I want to be you know. Look there girls. My biggest fear is that they wind up with some crappy. Dude you know what I mean or or some crappy girl or whatever they wind up with that is not ideal because I said about example for them. You know what I mean so I want to show them. What an honorable man does is they sticky. They stick to their word. They set goals. They achieve goals. You know what I mean like. I want them to see the way. I treat their mom. How I think is an appropriate way to somebody in relationship. You know All of that's really important to me but self discipline I think is very important to yeah. I actually Something about like your wife being one of the catalysts for you wanting to lose all that wait how did she push in that direction? Where maybe other people didn't well. I think the real key is. She didn't push me in the whole she. She was totally amenable to it when I brought it up and was like Oh yeah. Let's do that but we were together and I was gigantic. And she loved me and there was no There was no pretense about how much you have me. You know we were. We were very happy and it was kind of like I was just going like I know. She loves going on walks. I don't do that. She loves going to museums. I don't do that like there's a whole bunch of stuff that she loves to do that. I'm not doing with her. How long she can put up with that. You know what I mean. So when I went to her and said I WANNA DO I WANNA lose weight. And she was like great. Let's find you a diet now help you. It wasn't that she suggested it. She was just complete. Choose like my cheerleader. You know and and I eventually said to her I start. I literally started saying. Please take this food away from me because I will eat all of it and so she would take it away and then she started doing it on her own and the first time she liked picked up a plant food took it away from me. I was kind of like the fucking. I'd go but I did give her permission to do that. So okay. That's what she's doing to. But prior to me like setting this goal she never brought it up not once. Do you think if she did it might have pushed you away from it or maybe woke up a little bit sooner. I hope that it would have woke me up sooner. I don't know it just kind of happened the way it happened. I don't know I never I never had success doing anything at the behest of someone else. Yeah 'cause we talk about on the podcasts lot where we we have people like telling us like hey like I wanna do a died or whatever. What my significant other won't onboard. But I'm thinking about the opposite. Maybe there is somebody listening right now that they're looking at their significant other than that. Like how do I? How do I approach them? And they heard you say like they were just or that your wife didn't say anything at all and she waited for you If they were to kind of bring it up. How do you think they should That is a real tricky place because being a sober guy and professional dieter I've not found that with sobriety or food. That going to somebody and going like here is here's what I perceived to be your problems. Yeah and here's what I perceived to be your solutions not like you're not aware of it right. It just doesn't it's not it's like here is. I'm going to take the solution. I believe to be right now. I'M GONNA give it to you and I need it to be your solution. I've not found success with that. I've found success with somebody coming to me and saying I need help getting sober. Can you help me yes I can help you? I need a help doing a diet. Can you help me sure? I'll tell you what I did. That's how I can help you but beyond that like I dunno I. It's a terrible spot to be because I think like I. I am kind of a moral relativists where I go like. I don't know what's right for anybody else I only know. What's right for me I don't know what's right for you or you or any other person morally so being five hundred pounds. I can't say that's wrong I can. I can make an argument about health but I. You know there's lots that we could argue about health. We live in cities. There's pollution like if we want to be absolutely healthy. We should all probably like stop driving cars. You know what I mean like. There's a lot of health stuff that I can't make that decision for anyone so I think it really is up to the individual. That's just what I've how I've seen. It successfully happened. What if you were to maybe just say You know something to the effect of you know I I just you know you you call attention to. Obviously they already know that they're heavy great. He said I know that this is a real struggle for you and just anytime you're ready. I just want you to know that I would be supportive of that. Yeah and it might be hard conversation have but just you know if you WANNA make a change. Then I'm all for it. I start cooking different things. I can make sure there's Not Certain things in the house and I would love to maybe assist you and maybe help soften the blow and take on some of the burden. If I can help you. Maybe something like that but again. It does have to be the person's decision. No but I think what you're saying is is super valid. Because when I went to who is my wife now and I said to her like Hey I wanna do this thing. I didn't know what hurry I you know. I never thought that she was going to go. No you don't like a thing was like something in passing or was this like a sit down like you guys got kind of emotional about the whole thing and went through everything. Top to bottom kind I was in a real low spot and I was pretty upset and I was talking to her and I was super vulnerable and I was basically saying I'm relinquishing my power to you. I need somebody to tell me what to do. I need your help and I didn't know if she was going to. I didn't know what her reaction was gonna be. I didn't know she was going to go. Okay have a plan. I don't think about anything. Here's what you're going to do. I didn't know what to think so. I think that is super valuable to tell somebody you love like. Hey as soon as you're ready I'm going to help you or I'm here to help your I'm available to help. You weren't accessible and amenable to you doing this. I think that that is probably pretty valuable. I didn't she had never done that with me. And I didn't know what the conversation was going to become. You know it could have been like okay. We'll figure it out which it wasn't and maybe had it been that maybe I don't make it or maybe I do. I don't know but it was here this thing. I'm not happy with a minute. Turn it over to you. You tell me what to do because right now. I don't know you know you definitely better off having a conversation rather than having somebody die or end up in divorce. You're better off just getting out in the open. You mentioned that like you know she taken walks. So she's going to museums and stuff but what she also like eating differently than you would. Were she eating the same things you're eating or was she like different in that sense too? I was kind of so out of it. I wasn't really paying attention to that. Certainly she was not eating like me. Yeah but I also did a lot of hiding food. You know like I would also go and in the middle of the night. Go and eat or after you know what I mean. So she wasn't doing that And she certainly a lot less than I did but She wasn't like on a program. Yeah a lot of people do that. They wait for everyone to go to sleep in on it because they don't want to be out of control you know with the kids seeing them their wife seeing them and they Just attack the Pantry or the freezer or whatever it is. Yeah Yeah that was me. I was always like I didn't like people watching me eat. It made me very uncomfortable and now like I'm curious about these 'cause I don't think we've talked about these past few years like I don't know how long you've been like you know taking food to work and just eating the way you're eating but what exactly does your food look like now. Like what do you eat? I am in About a twenty twenty to twenty five percent caloric deficit I eat between one and one point two grams of protein per pound of body weight. So that's anywhere from two hundred sixty five grams of protein to about three hundred twelve grams of protein. The the remaining calories are kind of divvied up between carbohydrates and fats at around sixty five thirty five percent sixty five percent carbs. Thirty five percent fats. that's pretty much it. If if for some reason I'm starving and I gotta eat something else. I'm eating lean protein. Like that's what will you know what I mean like asking amino acids or a protein shake or a piece of chicken with no skin on it? I even think that when you were heavier if you were just to anyone who has a real hard time with their diet. No one would want to do this. Because it's weird but if you eat like I don't know six or eight egg whites before you ate if you were to eat Some chicken breasts before you eight now look. It might not work the first time you do it. But if he did it all the time he had that nice surplus of protein before you had your meal even if you were to eat. Ice CREAM REPEATS. Or any of these things over a period of time you will start to eat less and less and less and less the less likely to really indulge. You'll have I mean even something like a chicken breasts. It takes a little while the chicken breasts chewing and cutting and it takes some time so anyone that has a real hard time. They struggle with their nutrition struggle with her diet. If you can simply just try to add protein into the mix and take your time with it and maybe you can find Walking or maybe you can start to cut back on your last meal the day or your first meal a day or trial. Intermittent fasting just a small techniques could end up having a huge impact. Yeah I I think that's such a cool idea. You know just just eating more protein in doing it before your meal. 'cause YOU'RE GONNA fill up on that that's a great idea. I might try that pro. Maintenance for psychol- yeah protein leveraging earlier when we were in the gym. You're saying that you did try. The ketogenic diet is their ears. What you started with no well. I started with a liquid diet. That's right sorry okay. By the way I've done every single diet that has ever existed. I've done Beverly Hills Hollywood the Cayenne pepper and trying to a certain extent. They all worked if you stick to a diet you'RE GONNA lose weight but but like at two to what to what ends you know what I mean like. That's the other thing like I don't think anybody tells you when you're doing the Cayenne pepper lemonade. Drink that you're just dehydrating yourself. And then maybe you're gonNA lose actual weight after a certain amount of time. But it's going to be a lot of muscle to what I mean and that you're setting yourself up for rapid weight. Regain like nobody's giving you those pointers stuff like that. So yeah all of them. You can lose weight by the way. Maybe if you're a dude or a Gal who who has a photo shoot or or wants to go to a premier in just wants to dehydrate themselves a little bit. Maybe that's a valid diet. You know what I mean. Who Am I to say? That's not right? It's certainly not right for me today. But yeah all of them. I've had I've had success and a failed that lots of diets but when I did them the way they're laid out they all kind of put you in a caloric deficit and you lose weight by the way I've done Kito and not lost weight because I was eating too much and I've done Kito and and found that the fat actually keeps me feeling fuller longer versus low fat right now. When I get hungry I feel hunger and my toes. I'm like and I hadn't been feeling hungry like that on. Kito on Kito but when I tried Kito with a massive amount of protein it would throw me out. Akito so I'm just doing low fat now literally with one goal of having a perfect six pack which I won't ever have because I've loose skin and that's just my lot but I'm going to have something you know. I have shadows now. I think like for long term life stuff when I think am I going to be measuring food for the rest of my life probably not and probably the easier life choice for me as Kito. Seven kind of a low carb lives now general. Yeah yeah that's all I was asking. What the motivation was to switch over to the low fat compared to the high fat. And I'm right there with them on the low fat train right now and I. I actually really really enjoy it though. I do find it to be a lot more food like when I went from chicken thighs chicken breast. It's just a lot more food. Yeah in terms of other people in your life too because the like it doesn't sound like anyone was ever discouraging you from weight loss. But did you ever run into that? Before because a lot of individuals when they start making a switch of their lifestyle The have some people that are cheering them on the house. Some people like why even doing that questioning them on that. Did you really ever deal with that or you? Just had like peer support all the way through. Yeah I never. I never had a person other than myself rooting against me. That's dude that's awesome. That's that's so rare because like so many people like when they're trying to do this it's either people at work or sometimes people at home or significant other. They do have to deal with that. But I guess that just shows like if you have a friend that's doing this. Just don't be a Dick Right. I mean I I guess there were few. I did have a conversation with a casting director where she said more interesting heavier but okay like what does that mean. You're GonNa make me some kind of a big movie star. Oh you know what I mean like. I think that's all irrelevant. Nobody close to me was ever rooting against me. That's what about yourself. Are you thinking like a once you started to get out into the world and you had your vegetables and stuff you know? Were you trying to still even eat that kind of in private? Because you're like they're going to be like fatty or another diet again. I were you concerned about that The weekend that I released my podcast which shamelessly plug American test. Got A lot of reaction which I hadn't really been expecting and on low fat a lot of the Times mytravel meal. Is this low carb low calorie bread with Turkey? Breast sliced Turkey breast on sandwiches by throw. I was going to New York and I had a backpack full of sandwiches for my trip and I'm in the airport and people are coming up to me and I'm like I can't let anybody see me eat a sandwich. This just looks like a fucking sandwich. Yeah so so. Yeah I I. I still don't like to that. I just don't always feel comfortable with eating in front of people that probably goes back to being a little kid and like my grandparents telling me like no more food you know and so then I would sneak it and eat by myself. I'm sure that's all connected. You know what I mean. What's Misunderstood about people that are obese. I don't know I think the idea that somebody is actively making a choice to be obese. I don't think that's totally fair. Because I certainly was never doing that. There was no thought of like this habit that I've created. I'm doing on purpose. This was a little similar to drug and alcohol addiction. You think yeah I think so. I don't think it's like you're going through life thinking this is how I want to be. There could be some instances where somebody wants to be obese. And they're going like I need to eat more and like I think that's probably very rare but So kind of treating somebody like they're doing something on purpose and that they're just totally in control of it. I think is a mistake. I think that's probably the biggest For your for yourself. I mean it's hard to speak and you know Project on other people but for yourself Do you think that somebody could live a Somebody can can live a great life and feel really good about themselves being as heavy as you were like a more more on your case. Not anybody else right. I couldn't right now. They're obviously degrees of this right. So we're presented with convenient food everywhere. We turn were programmed to consume food in a certain way whether it be biologically genetically or what? We have created a situation in America where we can't help but have an obese populace. It's it's like that's the way it's designed So when I look at people who can walk around and live their life and and fit into a airplane seat. And like yeah. I think I think as long as those things like I see no problem in it. It also depends on like what you WANNA do. What your goals are i. I feel better when I can move my body and and I actually now kind of look forward to being sore. I was so sore every day coming home from work that like my feet would swell up and I couldn't get my shoes on sometimes the next day because I was five hundred pounds smashing down on my ankles I was constantly looking for like. Where can I sit down? I don't do that anymore and I'm happier to not do that so for me. I think there are degrees but I think me even at three hundred fifty pounds. I could have been happy. You know I just got this burst of like you know I I should be able to have APPs. Let's see what this is like but I think that versus five hundred. I was never going to be really happy at five hundred pounds. Never in terms of that goal setting process busy at the beginning of the podcast. You talked about setting small goals right now you gain and loss to wait a lot but I guess in the last in the last hour you were you able to get down to two sixty. The way you are now Was that the first time that she started setting smaller bowls or has that. Been your mode of goal setting since the beginning. No I wish it had been. Yeah but in the beginning it was just. I'm I'm miserably unhappy. I'M GONNA turn this over to my girlfriend. She's GonNa tell me what what to do and my goal was just make it through each day following her orders look. I don't know how I don't think we live on an island by ourselves. I think were designed to have relationships with people that are there are exchanges. You know what I mean like. You know. I'm not saying that it has to be this capitalistic thing. But like what do I do for her? What does she do for me? There's an ebb and flow. We communicate about these things. I could not have done that by myself. Yeah I just. It just wasn't going to happen so I don't know if you're not in a relationship with somebody that you can turn over the reigns to to tell you what to do. I wish I could've gone. Here's a goal for myself because today I can do that but it took a long time figuring stuff out understanding stuff and finally going like I'm not I'm not gonNA get. I wasn't gonNA get my goal on. Kito the way I was doing it. I had to like really look into it. And dig around and like fine tune some stuff and start lifting weights even differently. I wasn't doing progressive overload. I never did that. I just lifted weights. You know I didn't really know what I was doing. I had to like study and figure stuff out but but day one I really just had to turn it over and like put myself and say. I don't know what to do lease help me. I'll do what you what what your plan is. Now I I wish in the position. I could've just gone. I'm GONNA really do this. I just don't I don't know that's realistic. I think we really do need people to talk to to motivate us. You know you really do. What do you see nowadays? Look in the mirror you proud of yourself or are there still You still have the conflicting other guy there with the voice in your head that other guys always there will always be there. I do have moments of pride if I go into the bathroom. And we like two sets of lights. Turn both sets of light. It's like the rooms glowing lights coming at you from every direction and I look at myself and I'm like I look terrible. I turn off one set. It's all over had and I'm like Holy Shit that Guy. That Guy Looks Great. A little lemon addressing. Your mind's eye perfect. Yeah so that guy still there. I don't know I I'm my biggest critic. I gotTA fight that guy off all the time if I go to the gym thinking of that Guy Wins. I'm not going to go to the gym. 'cause cassette guys duck guys only trying to like fuck me basically You know you mentioned sometimes having a sense of pride sometimes like you just have so far to go yeah. I think that's really interesting. I think that's a lot of face. It might not be with necessarily the body but could be with your work. It could be with your relationship. It could be with drugs or alcohol or anything. Yeah and the other key I found is like having a goal is super important the minute I have a goal. I'm producing to get to that goal the minute I chief that goal my potential production is up here. My actual production here. That empty space is a death trap because that empty space without a goal is like I'm floundering. Sushi's always having a goal so when I get to my goal now I have to set a new goal immediately because that empty space where you're like. Oh now I'm GONNA relax. I don't believe relaxing is a good thing. I think you should always be working towards something as far as citizens snow that you mentioned you. WanNa gets maps. That's one of your goals. Do you have any other goals? Fitness wise right now that try to achieve in between that realm like well. What's what's coming up No I mean not really I I I I. I always think I could probably go heavier on my on. My Dad left. I'm I'm like a little scared to go superheavy because the buy side but I don't even I'm not I'm not. I'm not even doing it in a dangerous way. I like the reefs that lift were my arms are out here and that's pretty much not messing with that bicep tendon But I think I I would like to go heavier on that Those are tough man. That's like a snatch grip dead. Let's shake hands out by the by the power rings there. I want traps like yours mark. Why never done those trust? You have great traps just Kinda statically just flex all day flex. That's it. Yeah okay good and also we were talking before you said that like you. Stick to the REP range of twelve. Because he found that that works for you. It feels good for you. So as far as lifting for yourself like what I guess parameters have you set for yourself there because seems like you know with your nutrition. You set up. You know things at work view. Well so what's been really working fuel as far as liftings concerned. I'm usually alone so I'm not I don't have a spot so I stick to that because I know I'm safe no matter what you know what I mean even if I end off at ten leaving some in the tank. I know I'm not GonNa ever do anything where I'm getting stuck right So that's really M- mostly the reason I want to do that but also because I'm not working out to be strong right now. I'm working out just like I'm doing. I'm getting these scans just to make sure like I'm not pissing away muscle So trying to be as safe as possible using progressive overload. But not doing it in a silly way I would rather I would rather add two and a half pounds and add three sets to to increase that volume then. I would adding a forty five pound plate. You know what I mean. Does that make sense? That makes sense so. I'm kind of doing that with everything. I can do pull ups now but I would rather do assisted pope so I can do more of them You know the like what you're talking about here. It's it's it's simple but it's something that like a lot of people who've been lifting for a long time. Don't even do so like for yourself. I mean you've talked about doing a lot of research and stuff. Has there been anyone. That's like help you out with this along the way or if you just like been going at it and figuring it out. I'd been going at figuring out I. I really like what Mike is retail has to say on all this stuff want him to be super smart and hilarious. Yeah hearing funny. Yeah and so I I. I read his diet book to which was one of the one of the things where I was thinking. I is Ted talk and then his diet book where I was like maybe I should eat some carbs and increase my protein and and his stuff really helped me move in that direction. 'cause you gotTA understand four years. I just believed carbs. Made you fat. Yeah I because I didn't know what their what their use was. I didn't know what they did other than everybody is allergic to carbs. And they make you fat and like what are people doing their crazy. How could anybody EAT CARBS I? I don't eat carbs four years and now you can eat carbs. I can eat carbs ice carbs every day in rice and eat some bread and you know and I'm fine. Nothing I have. Nothing bad has happened to me. It's been fucking wild to be honest with you but it was scary So I I have read a lot of his stuff lane. Norton wrote a really great book. I read his book but those that's I mean I don't have a trainer. I don't. I'm not in the gym with anyone in the gym by myself. Just kind of getting through it. You know I've tried to do as many CA- compound movements as possible. Gotcha and do you think Do you think other people will have to maybe dive in as deep as you did or do you think might be a little different for everybody. Because I mean you're you're basically an expert at this point and like you can give diet advice people and it will work really well Do you think other people have to you know because it's could kind of seems like you. You know a lot. I mean you're talking about talking about lifting and you're talking about all these different diets that you try and stuff. What do you think? I don't think anybody has to get as into it as I am. I would suggest that like if you look. I think it's different from person to person if you're five hundred pounds and you just are going like I don't want to be five hundred pounds anymore. I think from five hundred to three fifty. You don't have to really worry about it. Move more eat less. You can go super extreme in the beginning and it's not gonNA mess you up. I would never do a liquid diet today but I would always suggest to the five hundred thirty pound me. Do that liquid diet. That was a great way to start. You're GONNA have this. You'RE GONNA you're GonNa do something monumental really quickly and you can hold on to that feeling of success and kind of ride it in order. I mean I think as you get progress towards something you're going to have to set. You know more specific goals for yourself and go like am. I got who wants to run a marathon not I'm not. I don't want to run a marathon but I do want to hike. What is hiking me? What can I do in the gym? That helps that or is there a little hike. I can start with you know what I mean and you can look at what what you can try out different fuels for what what you're hike is. Do you do better eating no carbs. Do you do better. Eating CARBS is fat. A good fuel source for you. It's not for my wife. My wife gets a terrible stomach ache when she eats too much fat. So Kito just doesn't work for her but she does like really good on kind of low fat Paleo type stuff and she's very happy and sheet some sweet potatoes. You know what I mean. But she doesn't eat. I eat more complex carbs than she does. So it's kind of like you gotta figure out what's right for you I think but you don't have to. I mean I'm kind of an obsessive guy who's like looking at all of this. I mean I went and wrote all the stages of the Tour de France so like when I was riding bikes. I was obsessed with that. I want I'm curious about this. You know you mentioned you and your wife when like you know she would go tasting you. Drink olive oil right You talked a lot about that voice. That's on your shoulder. That's telling you eat this or whatever right you. It seems that your willpower is on another level. You know and it's because of all the reps that you've done but if you can remember in the beginning when you were trying to go about this and you would fail right you got you eat a massive meal and fuck up and then you'd have to try and get back at at at the next day. What did that dialogue look like for you? It was always real hard when getting back on after so there were times when I would have the the cheat meal or the Cheat Day But I would be ready for the next day so like whatever. I'm going to eat the next day. That's already before the Cheat Day. That was helpful But I I it's just all I've always found those days or those meals where where it was like. I'm I'm giving into all temptation and I'm doing whatever that little crazy voices When there were no boundaries it would always be hard. It was really hard and you know sometimes it would derail me for a week or two weeks and then it was like you know like also going to the gym. Every day is easy when you go to the gym every day. If you get an injury or for whatever reason you take a week off even though you're like I gotta get back in the gym. It's not as easy. Yes getting back into that routine but when you're doing it every day it's not hard at all so you just have to remind yourself of that like get through this moment. That's more difficult than I remember it. Being and it will be easier cheat meal kind of reminds me of like driving down the freeway in Iraq. Hits your windshield and you're like Oh shit like I made a little chip you know and then a couple of days go by and sure enough at splintered into every every facet of your windshield and it's totally shattered and you gotta get replaced eventually. Sometimes these cheap meals eventually they might catch up to you and eventually you might have a price to pay and the price to pay it simply be the fact that it derailed you for an entire week or it could be something where you know you may be Just really struggle the next day. That's that's what happens to me if I was a pizza tonight. Mike that'd be amazing but I would have a hard time all day tomorrow. Be Thinking about the whole the whole time and you know at the moment now like I don't think that way so why you know. Why have that pop back up again? Yeah I totally agree. It's it's unnecessary and also that idea of the Just keeping it consistent because like definitely after not going to the gym for week getting back into. It's super difficult. But setting up a streak of trying to like some people like to set up calendars and participant XS for everyday. They go every day. They stick on their diet and seeing that streak and visibly seeing happened for a lot of people makes it easier for them to continue sleep. Do it over and over. Did you have anything that I guess allowed you or encouraged you to maintain that consistency. Did you do anything like that or I wa? I noticed that like Sunday's Mike Quote Unquote. Resting and I just don't it's not. It's my least favorite day of the week and I don't feel as good Sunday as I do every other day and I've got this kind of like well. I guess I have to rest thing so you know I'm constantly having to talk myself into that rest knowing that I can get an injury if I don't ever take a break so it's like the that I have that voice telling me to go. Eat A cheeseburger and go to the gym and never stopped going to the gym. So it's like you gotTa really battle all of these because you can think like always trying to tell you the right thing to do. Know that crazy voice is not ever telling me the right thing to do. It's always trying to take me off the path that I'm on but as far as like streaks I kept Diet Journal for a long time and that was super helpful helpful and I noticed that like if if I even if I miss writing down. A meal I would like get to it at the end of the day. I wouldn't miss a day so I think that can be real helpful but yeah I think that's super valuable. I just know like the holidays. Come and you travel. And it's like what are you GonNa do. I might GonNa do push ups and squats in my hotel room or am I going to be a real slob and just watch pay per view in order room service. You know what I mean like. Those are my choices basically. Yeah I think the Sunday rest. What's important to point out is like you may not like doing it but Sunday rest is for Tuesday. It's Wednesday or Thursday. The recharging of your batteries you know we get asked a question all time about motivation you. How do you stay motivated? How do you stay dedicated to it? And you know fatigue is going to be the thing that changes your character like. If you feel tired. You feel rundown You won't be like your ordinary stuff all passionate and fired up about the Diet and all excited about Training for the day. Because you're GONNA be like no I don't I don't feel like it really. I don't I don't feel like going. And once those things start to Once those bells and whistles star to start to be heard then you start talking yourself out of the workout. So it's important it's hugely important to have a day you know and I think even you know I've never really mess with this before but I I've lost weight in in a lot of stages and you know I. I had a friend of mine who told me so. I guess I had them for a while back when I went from three thirty to like two seventy or so My friend who was guiding me through all this. He's all right man he's like just enjoy the week. 'cause I was like. What do you want me to do this week? 'cause I kinda check in with them weekly. Just do whatever you want and I was like. What do we talk? I was like scared. I'm like I can't be left to do whatever I want. What do you mean you know? He's like no honestly. Just just do whatever you want for the next couple of days. You know for the for the whole week and I was like all seven days. You want me to do whatever I want. And it's like yeah you know so I I did. I was like okay but like even having some of the power thing background and stuff. I would always go for protein. I'd eat steak and I'd eat Eggs and stuff like that and that night I usually if I was gonna eat something like on healthy it would be later in the day. Which would you know? Throw me off because I W- obviously wait a lot at the time. But he knew that if he gave that to me at that time that it was a break and that I would just be like this after I did it for three or four five days so luckily for me. It was like he just said. Hey you know go do what I gotta do. Whatever you want. But those diet breaks can be huge huge D. Load weeks where you just lift less. Yeah it's hard if you know you're in there and like you want to kill yourself in the gym and you're like I'm not even I like embarrassed about what I'm doing but you know what its purpose. Is You know what I mean and maintenance time on your diet where you're like what this is such a waste of time. But you know your body needs a reset. Your body needs a break. From being a clerk. Deficit rain feels good. Doing it is all very helpful. The same voice. That's trying to lead you into like doing shots of Hershey's chocolate syrup and stuff like that is also trying to make you over work and you know I know I could spend easily three or four hours in the gym. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA work out very well the next day and so there's that magic and I'm not gonNa feel good either have to go lay in a bed. There's that magical kind of zone where you get you get more energy from the gym than you have before. The break is almost like a mediator coming in saying. Hey you know what you've got a good point over there with like being a savage and with your training and your Diet and you got a decent point over there with relaxing every once in a while somebody kind of in the middle to give you a voice of reason. Yeah and I've not read. I've read about these principles but I've not read anything where it's like. Every single person should do this many reps. This many sets over this amount of time like I think it is all kind of like you gotta figure it out by doing it and going like maybe you got to over train to know what overtraining feels like. You know maybe not take a break to realize like Oh. I used to feel really good when I went to the gym. And now I'm just like sluggish and tired all day like that's not it. I'm assuming you did experience that because you're from what you're saying. It sounds like you went through that. Yeah for sure I went when I first read about a progressive overload. I was like well. We just do this forever you know and I was like. Why isn't this working? You know what I mean and I'm also not eating enough so I mean you know not enough to like really go super heavy with progressive overload. But like I had it in my head like I can add two and a half pounds or five pounds every week until I'm bench pressing four ninety five or something like that. No knocking to work like that. You've got to take. I was a kid I like. I the first time I did You know progressive overload. It worked great. I was young and I was just getting to learn the sport and stuff and I think I bench like three fifteen or something like that and then so what I did is I wrote it out for the next two years when I was like? Oh my God when I graduated high school. I'M GONNA bench like five fifty fucking awesome. You don't always thought I was GONNA work out as doing all. The progress comes a lot slower than I do. It more like your body gets used to it and it's a giant processing like damn. I wish it just worked the same way every time. I wish I could bench press a thousand. We got a guy in the gym. He actually works here. We're training. You met him today. He kinda had the same thing cody where he was going to bench six hundred pounds like in the next two weeks. 'cause he did four or five and then he did. Boba so we always get shit for it. It's pretty funny. He gained fifty pounds on my bench in two months. And he's like yeah is just a natural progression of Cain. Another two hundred pounds. Ethan you and mark or like you guys are similar age. And he gave the perfect age to have heard the like saturated fat is bad Low high fat is bad. No low fat is good. Like you've seen all the trends and you said you've tried the Diet all the diets yourself. Was that some of the motivation to start your podcasts. To try to educate people in like yeah that was certainly part of it while I also WanNa say like whatever somebody has success with. That's a valid thing. You know what I mean but I also WanNa talk about it because I never talked about weight loss really before and I want. I hope it keeps me accountable and I wanted to share with people like Hey I'm the there is nothing special about me at all. I get obsessed with stuff. I do stuff in extreme manners but really. There's nothing special about me so I can do this. And it's a motivation to somebody. I hope that somebody can get something out of it and also if you're telling me you're getting something out of it that's just more fuel for me to keep doing and there's so many people telling themselves that they can't do it so it's great. Have someone say well you know I did it? And this is the way that it worked for me. I I believe that you can find. Maybe not the exact path took but something similar. You can have success to total. Let's Let's bring this one in Andrew. You want to hit up our sponsors and I would love if you have time of love to talk to you more because I feel like I feel like there's kind of another part to this. That is different than what we talked about. Love to talk about your childhood locked. 'cause that so many parents are struggling with their children and then there's so many kids out there struggling with their weight and it's just a awful thing but I think it'd be great dive into that. Of course I will shut this on down and start a new one. 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The Only Sustainable Thing is Lack of Judgement for Self and Others | #AskGaryVee Ep. 324 with Lilly Singh

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The Only Sustainable Thing is Lack of Judgement for Self and Others | #AskGaryVee Ep. 324 with Lilly Singh

"I think something that you need to a lot of thought to is judgment so one of the things up and even by reaction. It excites me. I'm super super passionate about judgment a the way we judge ourselves be the way we allow other people's judgments to become a variable in our lives when I think about the only sustainable thing that I have in me and I give a huge shoutout to Tom Bellevue when he was on my podcast in actually giving this to me because I was living in I just didn't put words to it my ability to not judge myself which then leads me to not judging others has been the greatest gift of my life and is the only sustainable thing I have. This is the Gary v Audio experienced. Everybody welcome to episode three twenty four of the ask. Ask Gary be show. This is an exciting one because worlds collide and it's a special special day everybody watching on live stream. I know this we'll get posted probably a day they later but if you're watching the live tonight ten at ten pm on Youtube and one thirty in the morning right if you're not really want you tell everybody what the big news is and a little bit about yourself for sure. Take the floor for next three minutes. Hi My name is Lilly Singh. I have exciting news. I am premiering my late night. Show Roma Embassy late night. Show called a little late with releasing It's after Seth Meyers is one thirty five. Am but like you mentioned because a special teams premier were streaming on Youtube uh earlier than it premiers on TV at ten thirty PM ES. It's a whole thing it's a whole thing. It's consumed my whole life for the past couple of months a huge honor It's the currently the only woman woman on network late night so it's a pretty deal. There's a very big ass so let's let's take it all the way back how to do it for. Let's see not all the way back. Let's see kind of back to. How did this even happen while I got a phone call saying hey there is a time slot that would love to offer you and I was like wait what and it took me a really long time to process this conversation because I was like they want me to host this or they want me to be on one hosted like myself like they want to be my place Carson. No they want your show. My own shows so many follow up here and Asian calling us with my manager at this point. You know I haven't art pigmy the PIC take this year. It's been eight years of making youtube videos. I've done a gang of other things and released books have gone on tours at lots of live performances never dabbled in the world of traditional TV thus far so I'm sitting in my office. I'm on my pink blush fabulous couch it as fabulous as well but it's very cute and get a phone call in La in La.. I'm just going. I have no I like it. I was wearing a blazer. Go ahead really probably sweat but I'm making it up so it's Wizar- and my agent my manager literally calls and says random thing. NBC wants to talk to you but a late night show and I remember being like wait what after thirty minutes of confusion I was like sure I'll do the meeting to find out more information and met with a group of executives white people and and then they told me there we would love you for the show and I'm not GONNA lie. It was a really cool opportunity but I wanted to take a beat to think about it because committing to something of that scale. It's like a huge professional and personal personal commitment to make so. I did like a month of research month to answer them. there's two people in particular. Ashford by Swan was hustled image and one was Dwayne Johnson mostly because I have a bad habit of asking people for advice who don't know what they're talking about and I wanted to not do that this time you know. I'm always that a person is like asking people for relationship advice in their single that and I'm like taking advice from them like this time. I'M GONNA ask people that actually know what they're talking about love so they gave me great advice. They both encouraged me to go through with this. I think my number one concern was I didn't want to be pigeonholed as a host of so many aspirations and and both of Carribean parts of their Hassan go into exactly the rocks transcends. Everything and I really believe that like there is no pigeonholing your yeah. You're willing to break through doors and windows. That's exactly correct and I think that's something that was so smart. He said if that was your concern you have already been pigeonholed as the Youtube Girl Haram that has never I donald who so that's what I needed to hear said yes and since then my life has been a wild ride. I love it. That's so awesome so now. Let's ticket actually I. I kaleidoscope looking to get all the way back. I'm actually going backwards that let's let's go to the part where you were merged into the consciousness that led to this opportunity. When did you start producing for the Internet. I Y you simply in June two thousand ten and it was because I was sad true here like Tata's the answer I was in the last year of university. I was fulfilling a major that I had no real passionate. Psychology degree mostly because that's what my sister did. My parents wanted me to get a degree as a kid. I was so creative whether it was baking or dancing rapping I loved creating and then I think I was convinced whether it was my family or society. We're not that that's not a realistic today tree of life and so I was like okay time to grow up and get a degree and get a job and get married and do this very linear life that everybody wants me to do. Oh I'm so I got one into really dark funk and last year in university discovered Youtube thought it was weird hell I was like who are these weirdoes making videos rooms but then you know eventually just uploaded a video. That was very bad. It was a bad video was your I mean it was a very awkward spoken word piece. I bought a new blazer again with the Blazers Blazers. I don't have a good personalities. My Blazers makeup kidding. I'm great no so I made this video. It was a spoken word piece. Seventy seventy people watched it. I was like I'll famous seventy goddamn people but I just fell in love with the idea of creating on my own terms and it made me very simple. I was sad this made me happy. I decided to keep doing this thing that made me happy. DIRAC and post production for this clip. Can we please find the part of crush it that I wrote in two thousand eight that basically describes this exact scenario since now I'm old and my thesis are now coming to life like think the I said this over and over that this is exactly how it was going to happen and literally tonight it happens somebody who created a youtube video than hosts in a late night show and that was impossible to believe in two thousand eight or nine when the book came out and so you manifested this basically I basically basically taking full credit link and get it you get it. I don't know if you read your contract but there's a twenty percent big. You're actually paying nice yes so when he presented. There's very little what is it even less even less that happens. When did you start feeling it. When if something happened Gimme the moment where okay so that happened it makes sense the had animals. What was the moment. Was the go somewhere or or the first video that kind of yeah yes so we're Tran called things girls say. Do you remember that trend do okay so I I made a stuff's been. Jumpy mothers say that was my first video to hit a million views. Now I was three apologized. Where where were your videos coming in at prior into that prior to that so am I I contact my first video hit ten thousand views and that was probably my eighth video so jimmy around eight videos at ten thousand views a lot which is which is a lot of us for an eighth video and by the way I'm just GonNa jump in right now for a really listening the thing that I talk about in crush it still to this day and just to make this valuable for everybody listening and by by the way if you're watching linked in facebook put your phone number's up and Katie here will be grabbing the numbers? We're GONNA do some calls before the show's over so you can see the themes going here and I know a lot of this audience is GonNa have questions for Lily to. I think one thing that needs to be talked about is talent like even the way you delivered awesome when you're saying the blazer thing like talent is a real equation like there are people who are. GonNa get ten thousand views on her eighth video video who who exactly the people that go on to do other things. There's a very fine line for everybody up like perseverance. You know like you know there's plenty. People gave up making youtube videos one video short but when it was gonNA turn so this is there is no there is no linear answer by answer to this but I do think that when it makes sense to me that that happened for you. Thank you okay so you have the ten thousand eight hundred like okay now. There's something here so that no not even then then to your point. I'm not the product of a viral video and there are a lot of critters that are I'm not every video. I've made has counted slowly. It's chipped away slowly gaining subscriber. You agree with me as also somebody who never had. I still don't have really that many if any viral video so what does that even mean you agree with me that there is no long-term from product of a viral video. There's just people that make viral videos and by the way there are people make viral videos and then are similar to you and I and that's the starting point and they go on because they have the skillset Fisher to build something meaningful and there are tons of people who have viral videos never to be seen again hundred percent every viral the concept of violence short-term. You know what number video got two million views. Oh what was that. I don't even remember 'cause is pretty deepen. You're probably you're you're too and that's the thing the shit would you like. Yes I know that but in metaphorically way I'm excited I was thrilled but I'm also so just have that. Immigrant mentality of my parents. Don't ever get too excited about stuff. Keep working. Keep us so even though it hit a million views. I was like well. This is not me. This is because of this trend I. I know it's because of this trend of the stuff girl say in that moment that Youtube is having so I was probably the last person in my life to really have that Eureka moment of way. This could actually go somewhere. I had hit a million subscribers. I have been traveling to different parts of the world to perform and even still I would form and what form a little bit of standup or a little just like Fan Dan. QNA stuff online sometimes I would wrapped a bunch of different stuff still being creative still being creative and I was like no this could go although it doesn't mean anything. It took me the of really long time to really accept. This could be a career entertainment could be a career similar to me. Were which I have a lot of immigrant where where it wasn't as binary is the the way you said it meaning. You didn't go all the way in but of course there was a sub or conscious part of you. That also knew okay. This is how things are happy. It's Kinda how I feel right now right like I don't feel like I feel that right now like with all the good things that are happening to me. I'm like I'm not like one hundred percents. I KINDA WANNA meter. Peter this line because I do think going all in like I know when I started doing youtube videos. I didn't have a backup plan and I was very I was very much so if you have a backup plan you're putting a little bit about how small energy into that solution where really I wanNA poke low as it. Is it true that you equally right now think it can disappear at equally think you're. GonNa the biggest in the world one hundred percent. I totally understand I teeter that line all the time and I don't need no backup plan on putting my it's all in you know what it is. It's balance. I think that's that's what I have to. I think it's actually balancing. We have balance or lack of balance. I think we have balance. I think the person my entire life that has ever told me and I think you balance. Thank thank you. I think that our balance is pulling harder in the opposite directions than most people I guess in this regard have balanced in other facets in my life perhaps not but in this regard sure that makes the best pod ever. I have enormous balance in human life. I'm completely imbalanced when it comes to being a sports sports fan. I'm actually sitting here conducting this interview with you operating enormous business because we just had a pretty important meeting. I'm one right behind it and and the only thing I'm thinking about is that I want to punch Baker Mayfield in the fucking face because the jets are playing the browns tonight at half. My team is hurt and actual tilt right now. I feel safe life good so so anyway. I actually think your balance. I fully understand that yeah okay now. Tell me about let's go even further back yet actually let me stay on. Ns because I think it brings more value to the audience the youtube things happening. You're doing these performance. Things real quick just because I think it's an important topic. Where were you do in balancing out your platforms for creativity and awareness. One of things that I think is super. Interesting is people becoming in one dimensional on the platform that feeds them as you're growing. When did you hit a million or did you feel like you were really in a big moment on Youtube twelve fourteen just give me like roughly what year probably two thousand fourteen okay so. Were you also actively at that point being like active on twitter or instagram or anything anything else. Were you rounding out the plan. Yes I've always been a big how I used to do things with everything funnel to youtube that's how I used to. I don't necessarily understand too yeah. It's it was very now. It's about certain content lives in certain places and each of the context has emerged xactly. That wasn't the case to understand yet. Do Thousand Fourteen Dollars Youtube is paying me youtube and butter exactly exactly obviously now. It's that's a good strategy because other social platform they all hate each other so you can't even drive people correctly from from one platform to another but now important to know twitter's for my tweets my thoughts my etc.. It doesn't have to continually drive to YouTube. It's more about these mini. Were you motion. Okay now. Give me right now. I am probably most active on instagram okay. Yeah what else is in your repertoire anything yeah so. I still still do youtube. I saw I had a regimented youtube scheduled for eight years. That is insane. It was too scripted videos a week plus seven blogs so nine videos a week. I did that for eight ears. I just stopped at the top of this year. Because I was going crazy. I announced it the top here. January like cold the social media you know the thing that we all do a good break from social media in November took a little bit of time to sit on my thoughts and feelings and then in January announced. You know what's so funny mm-hmm I had. You said you just said something. You said you know how we all do and I never have and then I but it's interesting I literally for the first time ever came up with this idea. I've been debating. I'm shocked saying this out loud because it's so early and I don't tend to share my thoughts to surly but he's people so you really inspire me. I've been thinking about creating something called disappearing December. ooh where I'm completing disappear for the whole month of December Eylau. No contact contact. I love it for you and I was like and then you know and we're went. It was like I may want everyone. Here's my whole team was like are we fire. It's really interesting. There's something about Jan one that is always sat with me. December's interesting because there's some family time time I'm using pissed about football. I always get a little inspired about my family. I grew up in my dad's family liquor stores so the wind sores always got a little. My attention vein is quite busy. I want to see pete like it's a very interesting for all of us. It's an interesting month and I was like wow like you know. I wonder you know it's kind of like move. Move Ember like the whole thing like I was like I wonder if I do this. Wonder how many people do it wonder what that means. I do think humans take scheduling join very serious. almost a part of me that believes that if if people disappear in December January and the New Year starts off better when I completely re so I'm debating it. I am all in please. Let me know if this goes down because I will disappear in December as well see this see. This is what scares me about this. Is I really think it's smart and I actually think it would be adopted and scale and I think that now I'm questioning myself. In is the only reason I wanna do this because I think it's GonNa Become Hugh I try. They don't want to be like trying to figure it out if I'm doing it because I know it will break from validation. Online will result in you being valid action action. Just you know how I think about life like right before I die. I like I think when you're creative. Muniz took me a long time. Only I've only decided to accept like Oh wait a minute. Maybe I'm creative in the last couple years like I'm a businessman. No it's actually just because I like being associated with ideas. That's great like I just like the idea. It's actually this simple nine years from now going through the airport and hearing a mom and daughter walking me like well. We've got disappearing. December number coming up anyway and so like I fucking a moment that as a matter of fact. I just realized what I'm doing now in the Meta. I just put it out before somebody else stumbles on it now. Now I got this boom boom. Put a trademark honestly without you know everyone's like trademark and all this stuff. I never do those things. This already feels good anyway. I'm sorry nonetheless so so what about as a kid. Where were you born and how'd you grow up. I was born in Toronto Canada okay. I only moved from Toronto. I'm five years ago to La.. I was raptors fan. Ya Oh the NBA chance yes. I am fans of the NBA jammed but are you a bullshit rap. There's there's no no I've been so I really couldn't tell me a lot about Vince Carter was about to say I've been a really die. Hard Pass said six seven years so not when I was super young. My family wasn't very into sports. My family was into making ends meet. We didn't do support to immigrant parents from India from the up and job going back to the immigrant hustles imbedded me of course I have an older sister which is very interesting and full circle because for so much of my life. My parents wanted me to follow her footsteps course of course did the psyche greeted all things I get it now. She does YouTube. She's older six years older than me. So that's been an interesting full circle moment of course growing up. I was a huge tomboy. I loved to be rebellious. In the most ridiculous things like painting my room read would go to the end of the earth to do these ridiculous things that my parents for some reason and because they're Indian would always oppose makes no less and I just really love being creative. You know I loved dancing. I was dancing for a good part of my life. bunger dancing which is like attritional. Indian dancing on this one brown guy in the room is nodding his head. Yup and I was always that kid. My parents just kind of learned very early. That really really wants to do something. She is going to do it. Regardless of what we say yes. I'm sure yes right and even with dancing. You know traditionally. My parents didn't like that. They didn't like meatpacking. They sound like a doctor or engineer so I had a year for me to convince them and how I convince them wasn't through lying. It wasn't sneaking out of my house to go to dance practice it was hey you're gonna come to my next. Show and you're GonNa see what I do. It's always been educating my parents on what I want to do because I believe so strongly wrongly. That's valuable to you know when I told my parents I wanna make youtube videos not go to Grad school my parents what first of all what are you talking about. We don't know who's got yeah so but they said you have a year to try to figure it out and twenty. Ivan grandparents as well and I wanted to a family the business and the number one question I get asked is like how did you. How did you commence your dad to let things right? I get so many emails from men and women who ask about their Mom Almond Dad's business and they can't do things and no matter how much I did a fourteen and I worked every fucking weekend and holiday no matter how much talent I showed and results from fourteen eighteen to twenty two and in my own mind I took it. It still required my dad saying micro yeses when I was like hey let's buy this. This weird sparkling Papaya juice never forget this. I bought a bunch of like sparkling non alcoholic juice that had this was one thousand nine hundred one and the flavors were mango mango and pear and Papaya like people came in the store like what's a mango like like you know like like and and we sold it all and I always think of like that being a moment where I convinced my dad who I was but it still took the micro yes for a lot of DADS MOMS say no to the mango juice and so a dad thank you for saying yes to the mango would use and be hearing your parents having you know we're lucky strict and old schools are parents were they had micro yeses in them for sure letting when you have the year to prove it one hundred buying the mango juice a lot of kids don't have that number agree one hundred percent and another thing. I took a lot of similar questions about people saying I WANNA do do and I always this might not be. The answer people want to hear but for me. At least my experience was true. My parents became fine with my career once they knew I was going to be okay. I think for Indian or any immigrant parents it's more so we don't care about what your passion is. We don't care what any of that we want to know. Oh that when we're dead and gone with Kelly I think this is my biggest passion life. We need to convince fucking. Human beings that okay is happy not have some money not one hundred percent. I agree it miserable as fuck. Doctors and engineers are listening right now. No miserable is fuck and and we know that but I think for my parents didn't matter how happy something when I get it was. Are you going to be able to get it of course because they came from. I mean I know we're our our parents came from but we as stewards to this like an everybody in our society today. We have to change okay not for you're you're making money on your tick tock videos. It's I'm happy to make tick tock video and I'm willing to live a forty thousand dollars a year lifestyle to do that. That happiness happiness start pushing against one another question. I got often. I want to start making youtube videos advice. Oh wait advice as always do something something you care about talk about something you care about make videos about something that matters you because the fame and the numbers and the money is not going to fulfill you the way having a point of view that you care about is i. I agree like Katie questions. Okay before we get into that so the manager calls yet you're wearing your hat pleaser half sweatsuit ballgown yeah and and you change the story sitting there yet over this month of of doing research to give an answer to these white executives when it finally came into your head like fuck. This is going to happen yet because you decide for yourself. It's GonNa Happen. who were the top people you wanted to be guests awesome show? There was some point right after you did this. You're like okay. I'm GonNa have a first week. I'm going to first show so I had a mix. I have two buckets of people in the first. The bucket is beyond save because once I have on my show I can retire and not do anything else every but the second bucket honestly I listen every day Honda for so you just hit her up and the second bucket of people is people that have not yet had an opportunity to theon late night or not had a lot of my friends. I just admired online. We've never had the chance I remember Fallon. Absolutely was the cause Gavin prison. The producer came from and remember there was a little bit of that not to the level double that I think you're about to embark on every facet of my show whether it's the writer's room are like people this script assistant whatever I'm really trying to infiltrate it with people that I know could use this opportunity because that's the actual legacy of the show on air great the twenty two minutes you see on screen grade. It's fine as key whatever but it's actually giving people operas. What's the format going to be so you change the name right which I love l. Thank you I like to. It's you know this staples of late night that where we love and we're used to the monologue the sketch etc but I'm making a lot more more personal because I'm prioritizing community building which I don't think the late night world has done yep me coming from the Youtube world. I know the value of community Yup and so my monologue are and not just template monologues anyone can read their very much so based on my experiences who I am. The audience will get to know me beyond just the host of the show. They'll get to know lily that type of person she. She is what her moral compass is our experience etc.. What's the punchline with that time slot you know. Is You know obviously there's the history. Carson had such touch before we went on the air during like seventy Ron something years. It's such a great job. You know I go into cliche. Common sense handsome like Ooh like you know interested like young dudes. Let's say up to one thirty one place. I go people that lived. Alternative lives where they're like. You know working at those. There was times where things of that nature and then I'm just thinking about the nature of like for example. We are very similar. Obviously we came up the same way. I also have really never debated baited. Having a show was the closest I like the big moment for me somewhere to you and I was just too deep into this was a syndicated show which is even two hundred Gandhi. I'm episodes daytime and I really wanted to but it's just too much nonetheless I very curious about. How much of the show is consumed online days later clips some sure knowing your DNA like it'll be really interesting to see for me for me? How I'm viewing it is at one thirty. AM IT launches and it starts with life beyond that. I'm not married to that idea. Yeah people are viewing it at one thirty. Were well aware majority of people will view it the next day on Youtube and for me I actually is that how it works just for functionality like the full show will be on Youtube divide into clips but when those clips combined combined yes. It's all parts of the show got it and that's sort of your like a hardcore fan. Sid is like I love the show Ed like he could go much five clips and percents. Every show mind is like a couple of seconds of airtime the UPS. You'd be every element of the show as important for me because coming through world. I have a worldwide audience not everyone has to NBC so it's important for me for them to consume it yeah awesome. Thanks some questions let's do it. Let's call awesome peeps. Oh yeah and he's historically. DVR been a big play for these lately chose. Do you know what I mean not just now with you you too. I don't know I feel like it's this new to Jim. Makita ooh Nicole off was my favorite wrestler. You're going to get you're going to get a whole bunch of. Brown people calling in right now. I love it acute This could be a Russian fucking gangster. Just so you know my face. When you read Alexa or it could be somebody who's not going to answer devastated not always my favorite memes when skuld people all lanes. Leave your message for five one zero nine zero two. I you gotta go. We don't believe anything everybody can figure out Nikita. It's carrying lily. This is one of the great mistakes of Your Life. Not Picking up the phone. You will probably really do when everybody else does. which is you're? GonNa call back however we are not going to pick up the phone because life is about timing and this is a lesson that I want to teach the audience have a great day. Lilly Nikita have a great day after this message. I'm still rooting for you and I'd love to talk to one day Nikita. I'm fucking rooting for you to I'm just talking about timing matters tweet. Don't let this be the thing that ruins your day this day. This is a funny Makida. You can watch this video eric fistfight now go to next one. I always say I always think about timing. I always think about the meeting I didn't take that is absolutely the one that would have changed the course of my career. I I look I love Tony Timing. I who does do it and helping me Jamie Hi. Ah Yes this is Gary Bainer Chuck in your Lily. Hey I'm GONNA cry crying. Good sure cry cry but speak to okay. Hey all my God. I'M GONNA okay. I'm pulling at my blog camera lily hi hi so I am twenty five years old. I'm dancer in Miami. Can I have watched videos all of your blogs and like we spoke about your depression but not the person but the something during the break that you took and I watched and kind kinda live all of that review because like that's the savings acting I've been doing by understood like brutal beating that you were dealing with burn out so I'm twenty five now but not owned a gym and a dance studio here in Miami since I was nine thousand nine hundred your birth out mom so I guess my question of how do you overcome that and like as with your walk you know what I mean Yeah Yeah. That's a great question so I took a social media break at the end of last year and you know there's a lot of things that helped me but one thing in particular regular that I found so helpful was redefining how I how I find self-care. Basically I think previously in my life I used to work so tremendously heart and sober lent Lucy heart as you know if you watched all of my videos. You know there's a lot of them. I used to work so tremendously hard and my idea of break would be once a year. I'd go to resort art and get drunk and eat a lot of food and then go back to my life and then work relentlessly hard so there's a sound amazing but it's not sustainable. I learned that self care. There's nothing to sustainable. You're correct lily. Actually let me let me phrase like like what keep going. I'm GonNa let you finish or whatever learned is that you know hope for me. Self care is small things every day really about ten minutes of meditation. I do every day. It's about writing my die. If I feel clouded it's about going on a walk if I me do and that in that actually makes me smarter and Work Bird than when I'm working from morning tonight nonstop. I actually had a lot more done one. I'm a happy healthy person because I've dedicated twenty minutes of my day to just being human if that makes any sense and Jamie Jamie to add to that you know what is not sustainable is micro tactics so I already already have friends that are on the other side of meditation like it's just an emerging thing and you either ready he getting hundreds of texts and emails and conversations around have been doing it for three years and it's worn out its value which is actually where I want to take take this to the little micro conversation Lillian. I just had nothing sustainable way. Wait a minute. Yes it is I think something that you need to give a lot of thought to is judgment so one of the things that and even by her reaction it excites me. I'm super passionate about judgment a the way we judge ourselves because the way we allow other people's judgments to become a variable in our lives when I think about the only sustainable thing that I have in me and I got a huge shadow to Tom Bellevue when he was on my podcast in actually giving this to me because I was living it. I just didn't put words to it my ability to not judge myself which then leads me to not judging others has been the greatest gift of my life and is the only sustainable thing. I have through all my twists and turns my friend good for you to be at twenty five and already have this much accomplishment under your belt after I like I'm going to cry like I really need you to see this and it makes me happy that you're that we're having this micro. Talk brother like us in like you've like you're beating yourself up or allowing somebody else to beat you up. When you've already been you can add a whole lot so I think that Kinda hit? The nail in the coffin was Jerry. so like judgment is a really the big thing which is why. I've always been attracted to because she's never been afraid to be herself which don her where she is today. Which is launching? It's it's amazing so like I'm here in Miami. I am a six foot three black man that dances for living so come up to me every single day and happy. I'm an athlete Yup and then I have to say normal dancer even within myself. I'm so afraid of my own craft and being judged and even things like opening up youtube channel. I've been so afraid of my own judgment and then people start Jimmy Jamie definitely and let's stay stay on this because this is going to be very valuable for this has the potential to be very very valuable for a lot of people's. Let's keep playing the three of us a couple of things I don't know lily well enough but I was listening to a couple of things lillies serendipity of being an immigrant to appearance structuring that I'm familiar with and and her having the DNA from from a very young age to fight the system and be comfortable with the ramifications similar to me got us into a place where no and and being on an island and not looking for acceptance but having conviction to the inner conversation lead us to a lot of practice by the time. We got older so many of us maybe you maybe not. I'm just painting a picture here. So many people don't practice from zero zero to twenty two of being comfortable in no they have the entire energy to chasing. Yes looking for acceptance from others so what what may be happening to you when I hear that from you where I go is like okay awesome so fucking happy how life works. We're GONNA stick on this moment. We're not going to the next call because all I wanted Jamie for you to understand the following other people's judgment it is such a tell to what's going on in their lives and nothing that you can never control look. You'll never be able to control it so check on. What's in your control? Is Jamie Amy I when I look at people hating other people and this is not a joke and this is not the most popular opinion when I watched other people hate or overly judge or or try to make hate you know I'm not going to racism. I'm even talking about being in a meeting watching somebody roll their eyes so that person sees it. They were to their idea because they're trying to impose their sadness within them on somebody out. Misery loves company. It is something that I think right now. Intuitively needs a bigger platform and conversation in our society because for some reason I really understand it and so if you leave this call with nothing other than anybody the cast judgement on you that you should deploy empathy and sympathy for for them because they're dealing with their own shit percent can really change the diagram for you my friend. I also I've never met a happy successful person. That had something necessarily mean or bad to say about someone else. When you are a good place in your life like I was thinking about this. When I received negative comments online I mean ah for so many years but I still you know people say you have thick skin. There will be a commoner to that still gets you everyone every but I always think about the fact that when I'm in a good place I don't wake up and I don't have the desire to write mean things about people on the Internet and so really the type of person that is doing is someone that is not happy and not in good place so I absolutely agree with your sentiment Gary and also goes back to control for me. It's I know I can control my reaction to things I can control my thought process. I L never be able to control someone else in what they really. I swear on everything that I hold dear that when I see the negative comments which I get every single day and I read comments because that's how I do research. I generally sit on like I feel so bad. The there's it is as foreign to me as to commit murder right now the Ming dead serious right now at the thought of killing another human is as foreign to me as going into somebody social media profile consuming their content and then leaving something negative. I completely agree i. That's why I just know that someone. That's not a good replace. Jamie listen even he. Let me tell you something about your youth. One thing I push a lot is perspective on time. You're gonNA live literally. Three more awful lives everything. You've done from the day you were born to right now. You're about to three more times yeah. It is really crazy especially when you're ambitious ambitious and trying to create something and being a one of the ten biggest cities where there's a lot of action going on you know. What's everybody else doing. If you contextualized that that will help you so much as well because let me tell you what I believe. I believe for a lot of us a lot of us. For All different reasons create a framework where we allow outside opinion to have a disproportionate impact on our lives a disproportionate and if we were born into into anything that even looks remotely different than the norm we immediately are on our back foot emigrant gender sex preferences references skin coat and by the way let me let me say this for the small group of white men that aren't immigrants born in America. They have their insecurities too because their mom tells them they're not as smart brother not as good as this is. This human condition is for everyone for everyone right and so what you need to do off this call and if you understood the math behind even being the person that we got to right and by the way here keyed up Makita could've answered it brought up a great question and we would have never gotten to you right now. Jake you have understand that what you have to start doing right now is getting quiet within your own head but Jimmy let me tell you one part that nobody talks about that might so help you great part of the equation of getting quiet is also not getting too high when people say that you're brilliant one of the reasons since I've noticed so much insecurity wait a minute they take in that. They're beautiful. They're fast more. They throw it hard or they're clever or they're good at great one other things that it's why this is so full circle. Why are thank your balanced is because you think you're going to be the biggest and you think you're no one yet die. Yeah good point yeah. I understand that too and that's different than not getting too high when everybody says Maria I'm a I'm a big believer of this too and it goes goes comes down to not taking anything personally whether it's positive ordinary correct because you can't sit there and be like I'm not GonNa take negative tiffany personally but I'm going to accept all this praise. It really has to be from both ends. You know when someone comes up to me as many people do I'm here. You have this a lot. People will come up to you and say you change my life and I will say I did you. Did you change your life. Perhaps I was part of your world old another much better than I'm like. I'm completely completely. The reason your life has changed. You chose well so I agree it goes back to not taking either of those things personally and I know sounds kind of absurd because you should be taking in positive energy not negative but I think what you can't pick and choose. You can't take Jamie word of full. Oh and not Jamie one other weird little thing. I think you should go and volunteer one day for retirement home. Wow okay. I'll tell you why I feel like people that are in. This position need massive perspective in injects right. We're having this awesome talk. You're going to take the high of this. Yes you're going to build a little bit. I'm telling you right now. There's nothing that can help people more than going to somebody who they don't know not your grandparents and and spending a day with people in their nineties and understanding how all the things of people rolling up on you in the Miami scene and casting judgement judgment means Jack Shit and that perspective is everything. You've got to start the process off this phone. Call Tim attach from judgment both pro and con. That has the roundup also the last night say someone who also dances. Anyone says you're not an athlete because you danced is wrong dance. So of course it is amazing so Oh of course be proud of that. Be Proud of that as a fellow down there. It's not just throw that in there Jimmy instead of letting you go and having this field but good moment. Have you like. I'm just really curious like what's running through your mind line right now for real for real more importantly not that good not the good but the part that you're leaving when you hang up here where you're like yeah yeah but I want to really know what's in in your head as Yearbook Jamie Kinda. Take three things you could take seventy three things that are on my mind so number one livy. You said that to get out of your funk. You do something like take a vacation and you blah. Blah Blah so like I you'll even worse because like I just did that so like I'm trying to start a modeling career on top of the fitness business that are running in Miami so I defense Italy for ten days to clear minded vacation but then come back and you're like Oh wait. I got all the to do and I got to figure out how I'm going to get it done so like threw me. I feel like I've done the vacation even like packed up all my stuff move to a different city because I was just over the fitness industry here and come back in the People's support me all the same so like for me I don't. I don't know how to get out of the funk because I've done the the rest part of it like the rest your mind part now. It's just like crap. How do I build a bigger business on top of this. number RETU- Gary you said like quiet silence. Tom and social media really drives me crazy because I watched your video. Gary and you say to post post post post conflict content content content and for me that hard thing to do because I'm now I hate to post on social media like even my social change. Now you hate to post on social media because because they're overvalue the opinions. You're not in the mindset of creation. You're in a mindset of validation and spending just came up with a thing called disappearing. December the we'll talk about it but really let's go back to that point. Real quick like literally ninety nine percent of people online online are in the mindset of validation the reason I say postpone. I want you to be in a mindset of creation. I want you to do it for you. Jimmy probably probably are watching my content enough to know that I reference four times seven times a year that scene from rocky four drago loses to rocky and he you were yelling at the Soviet Union and all the people in the crowd and he said Fuck you guys this wasn't America versus the USSR. I was in this ring for me and that's what I I want to inject a little drago into everybody. I want you to post for you. Not for the likes not for validation for the mindset of creating an leaving your two cents on the world for you. The reason nobody wants to post says it's become one game of insecurity of course the third thing is just like so Gary I kind of dumped bumped into you when I was nineteen twenty because I got sponsored by one of the biggest universities here in Miami so they built my very first Jim for me one hundred twenty thousand seven dollars at nineteen years old and it was the creepiest experience when like I've been dancing for the past six years and just doing what I love every day but for me now the business side it's like Damn I get burnt out so easily and so quickly when you realize Oh crapped no-one's paying my bills. I'm the only one during this and like every move I make my next paycheck paycheck growing this I guess these are all the thoughts that are just like. I it's hard headed duck in different areas of your life. He gave me nuts the other thing and then listen. I talk about self awareness over everything. That is my biggest religion brother. There is nothing wrong with you not being in an entrepreneur and owner of this thing if I had my family's livelihood than I had to start from zero again because I built it for my family. They're all I can go on and on and I've never felt a fear of the next paycheck because I'm in my zone if I had to read a script if I had lily job and I don't know how you're doing it but if I had to read from a teleprompter tonight in front of zero people I would. I would be so fucking scared because I can't read for Shit and it's an insecurity of mind but if I have to go give an impromptu keynote right now in Madison Square Garden in front of thirty seven thousand people and I talk about my shit I would moonwalk to the garden right now. Now that you just might not need to be an owner of a gym which is amazing and that's an by the way late. Let me let let's play this out because I'm fucking fully invested at this point. I appreciate and let me let me give you the piece that I think really matters because I think you kinda might know what I just said and the part of closing the gym and having your Auntie or your best friend or your neighbor or somebody that wrapped up to you. That's doing well right now. Judge you means horse to the amount of people that judge people that are doing from the sidelines makes me laugh when you're judged for closing thing the gym because you're deploying self-awareness to happiness and you get a comment of. Oh and maybe you put yourself out there. Maybe you made a video three years ago and said I'm going to crush and build the next goal. Jim and maybe you kind hi to put yourself in that spot. It still doesn't matter because your doing in living it doesn't matter what they think of that for sure and just to go back to your first point Jamie I want to emphasize. This is how you viewed that vacation. Line is exactly how I used to view for many many years of my life. What I highly recommend is that I'm saying you don't need to do that. I'm saying that that's what it takes ten minutes today after this call even to just reflect meditate right. I'm saying that if you're not having fun on the journey it's not worth it and this is someone who's we've worked relentlessly hard. If you watch my you know this I know you I believe in working hard even still but the thing I believe in most is you have to be happy. I can handle this woman so much. I couldn't believe in this chain of ninety nine percent of people just came back from summer vacation and the first fucking day back all the things that they thought they got went in the garbage by nine forty eight. PM No you know and so like I really really really think that it is a much more macro thing. This comes down to judgment. If there was nobody else on earth everybody would be happy Maimon. I'm telling you this is a judgement game this is you worried about what people are. GonNa Think. Once I got to the final pieces of not even caring what my own parents thought fully it completely unlocked for me and I was ready ridiculously happy. You can't let judgment seep in it is the poise end to that point. You know the parents line a lot of times. When we let go of those types of ideas of course my parents judge me and my friends at all then you get the judgment to yourself because you think oh that makes me a bad son or a bad you have to also not judge yourself in that regard regards as common limited secret to all the kids out there who are struggling with not letting their parents down because I get that all day long hour you say you put all this pressure on the parenting dynamic? Make always say to them. Listen Net net and this is not a blanket statement. Nothing can be a blanket statement but I genuinely believe that every kid who decides to do what their parents want them to do versus what they WANNA do end up thirty years later twenty six years later forty years later in massive underlining lining sub-conscious resentment of their parents and I would rather kids and appearance have a shitty three to five years then have a life life a life full of resentment and undertones and all that anxiety and guess what happens out of that three to five years of bad somebody ends up being right and you don't even need to have right first of all take it from two people parents get real proud when when they're not sure and then you do it for sure that's the ultimate for a parent and more importantly a Lotta Times kids lose to. There's a lot of kids that told their parents they were going to be the biggest rapper in the world want to. La and nine years slater are not the biggest rapper in the world and they come back to Kansas and they get a job in the family business or within the profession or something else and guess what what their parents are thrilled. They're back home because they miss them and guess what else that next Eminem or next Jay z also feels good or next smeg the stallion they also feel good because they gave it a fucking shot and now that they're carpenter or a businesswoman or whatever the hell they're doing. They don't have to live with regret. This is why we have to push this narrative because it will lead to more happiness for sure everyone a great greeting Jamie how you feel and I'm like shaking shaking like bog camera in front of me because I'm like crying and I'm like wiping my kids. Get that Nobu thumbnail joanie Jamie which person in your life opinion do you value the most. Who Do you think is really writing. Real mindset that like when you think about your life and you think about when the gym open who you called WHO's validation do genuinely believe you're anchoring to it's definitely mom and I think think again. We're all immigrants so like I was born in. Jamaica and mom is now a doctor so I'm mom learned very early James knocking to be a doctor. I went to school for acting dance like she immediately picked up not so. I definitely think it's her validation even though she's come to terms with like hey my kids performer like he's not he's not following my line of work. You know but again I wanna make her proud and like somehow came on like everything that I'm doing. All the time we think in this industry is is the nothing Jamie and I apologize for not letting you go but I just feel like your your your your your doing so much good for so many people right now and I'm not going to let it go. Even though I feel the stress on my team telling me I'm late and this and that Jamie listen to me we have to change the narrative of artists or entrepreneurs wars or athletes or creative people or anybody who's willing to have any conviction of their own happiness for that matter. You're not wasting your time. We have to put the process on a pedestal not the results that come with it. Absolutely I promise you this. There are a ton of mothers and fathers who are listening right now who are devastated that they're kids went through a process of making them proud. They achieved everything they they got the degree they got the business they got the money and now they're forty eight and they just had dinner dinner last week and they're completely broken and you're you you can't put that judgment on yourself your mother and every mother and father father deep down even if they don't realize it they're number one crowd moment is if their child is happy if their child had enough conviction to make themselves happy if you could get happy about the process of this versus whatever results this Jim does you will be in a much better. Happy Place uh-huh oh man yes sir. Yes ma'am agree. Where does your mom currently on this like. She's scared and worried disappointed pumped cellino so like you again. I'll make it fast so I basically already went through the process of like closing the gym because I knew that it wasn't gonNA work. I moved away. I came back and now it has done is like infiltrated and other gyms so that I'm not being a huge overhead thinking all my classes. They're really proud because like I'm running things from. I have have more time on my hands so so mom proud. Mom just wants to see me reach the level that she she knows i. Can you know what you and mom have to have a conversation about that because that's an arbitrary arbitrary number. That's a that's a fake thing. That's like Bainer media when people like your creative needs to be better. I'm like no no your judgment on. This video is the judge is writing in Queen like like you have to have. I'm telling you Jamie you have to have a conversation with your mom about that. Reaching your full potential a what you're capable of has to be on your happiness state right now. You're nowhere on that. I don't get how many classes you're doing a ninety seven jobs and your profit margins better. It needs to be on being happy about your day-today. MHM agreed. If you know what I mean also sounds like compared to a lot of situations other people are in having a mom and disposition is great can amazing amazing yeah so all the pieces to make make things pop off air. Just I agree how the conversation and don't do the but after this as Gary mentioned Jamie the key the key is knowing how to quantify ambition so it doesn't manifest in your own personal judgment and anxiety. I'm I'm I'm so uncomfortably ambitious but I got lucky and circumstantial put it into a place that doesn't cash judgment enjoyment if in a world where I've been very successful business wise in the last twenty years but between the partnership with my dad and the partnership with my brother I have nowhere somewhere close to the personal finances needed to achieve my professional goals of buying the New York jets at forty three years old. I sit here cool as a cucumber so you can imagine why I pushed. Patience and lack of judgment on twenty five year olds absolutely absolutely don't don't listen. Please please change behavior. Pass this. Please take this phone. Call as a moment in your life to change your behavior and recalibrate the conversation. The ambition needs to be EH waking up. Happy not anything else absolutely gary. Can I just say that like I. This is a promise that I'm making to you because I watched your show almost to be clean and to be rather frank like I about take a shower go to work. Go train a client and then I opened facebook and I felt really on your show out because you got. You are the only people that I watched when I'm in a punk so like lily like again. I watched her in a funk earlier. This year and I'm watching here. Start her own. Show which is like. It's the creepiest thing so. I'm seeing someone like her web. Watch for six seven years. Jewish and get out of it like the call is the biggest week of these. Thank you amy how we're GONNA end this call I think I don't want to put Liliana spot but I think I'm firm on this. I think there's a very strong likelihood or maybe even booked or kind of almost book like I'm going to be on Lily. Show how yes one hundred percent okay I just didn't. I felt like we were there. We've been working on it behind so Jamie. I'm I'm going to fly you up here. I'M GONNA cry and Org GonNa hang out with me in the Green Room the day I do the show. I'll give you your own green room. It'll be bigger than Gary's and then he can hang in your group by the way Cheney and that works when you're green rooms bigger than mine will lily doesn't know is she just gave me a real Mitzvah because that's going to motivate me even more to be the greatest fucking guest on her show ever premiering tonight at ten pm on Youtube recorded already so so Jamie. I'm GONNA have have Katie. Give you a call and get all your details and once we're locked in you come into New York City. You're going to hang out at banner in the morning. We're going to help look at your stuff then. We're we'RE GONNA all go into record the LA. I'm an idiot. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA fly to. La For this game this what's fun about being global the fly to La.. I'm GonNa meet you in the La Office of Bainer. We're going to hang out then we're GONNA go do the show. You're going to hang out in your big green room. I'll come and visit and then after the so all three of us can talk about all the things you WanNa talk about. I just got just happened for so that's firm that you want to buy a yacht the burned to the ground in your face to motivate you see you soon thank you. You're coming to. La Alive so you've seen him you Jamie by Geiger. Thank you look at look at you. Look at us you you you. I'm just texting my book right now. We need to get working on it. Thank you thank you. This was a lot of conversation. I really wish you nothing success. 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Building Legacy Goals with Drew Manning - FHR #346

"Been almost five years since we started this journey building a soccer tool liberate, educate entrepreneurs, who wanted to change the world. This podcast reveals the tips and strategies, wheat and a fellow entrepreneurs of us to start build grow and skilled or companies. My name is Dave Woodward. Join me as I take you behind the scenes. You can hear what works what doesn't and the strategies being used to get your message out to the world welcomed a funnel hacker radio. Well, everybody welcome back for lack of radio. I'm so excited. Dear friend of mine on the podcast today. Mr. drew manning welcomed the show. The h-have thanks for having me all man. It's my pleasure to be here. Great Druce gotta tied up. He has no other option but to sit and talk to me today, I still just finish this crazy crazy hundred mile journey and twenty four hours. We're gonna talk about that a little bit later but I don't know drew directions. One of her eight figure ward winners. He's just been absolutely killing it had the opportunity down his house while back into its video shooting down there as well. One of the greatest guys you'll ever find in the fitness space as well as Makita space that most important just living one of the best human Joe ever meet, who's got a heart a gold and his willingness to Louis giving giving giving gifts. So again, thanks so much for being on the show, but in Q man's, always my pleasure. So that was a great intro, by the way. Well, thank you. I totally mean it's been fun just to get to know you better and see. You and your kids and everything else. It's a fun. So let's talk a little bit about this whole journey, your I'd like, again, usually we talked a lot about the whole funnel, and everything else. And yes, you've crushed at eight figures doing that way. I'd like to spend more about I followed you on this journey as far as this, this idea, as far as running twenty four hour hundred miles in twenty four hours. And I saw so many parallels to business and your post about a failure. And I think this would be kind of a fun, little pockets of your if you're willing to open up on this one right now. Talk it and really dive into first of all why you did it. What was it about? So gives a little backstory on white did. And then we'll talk about what you, learn. Yeah. So the back story is me and my brother, we read this book called can't hurt me by David Goggin and interview have not listened to that an audible yet, it's definitely a must-listen for anybody out there to help you realize that this one man Wimpy on his self limiting beliefs. You know. It opened our eyes to just. Okay. What can we do that? We haven't done yet and so really inspired both of us. And so his birthday was coming up, and he said, hey, drew, one of one hundred miles for my birthday. My forty fifth birthday. You wanna do with me? I said, dude, I've heard I ran a marathon, marathons before you're breaking up a little right now cow, then it made sense. I'm like, okay. Okay. Can you hear me okay? Yep. Here there you go much better. Okay. Maybe it my mic was moving those talking with enthusiasm. But anyways, he challenged me to run hundred miles with him. I said, hey, let's do this. Let's run an eight zero test runs. See how it goes see how our bodies can handle a fourteen and a half minute pace for eight hours right in your mind. You think that's pretty easy. Like a fourteen half minute mile. That's pretty easy. Right. What we did for eight hours, and we could barely walk afterwards. And it was so hard just to walk. And I was so surprised. But I said, okay, let's train for this for the next month and let's try and do a full hundred miles in twenty four hours. And so we, we've Trump in training, the next for the past month up until this point. And you know, using all the tricks in Hakodate could possibly think of to, you know, help me someone who's not a runner, trion run a hundred miles and twenty four hours. Now, we're not running the whole time, but it's maintaining that pace where we would run walked run, walk a combination of those two things at a faster pace without stopping. And then of the day to make a long story short. I did the. Post about failure. We did not reach hundred miles to twenty four hours, we reach eighty miles in in twenty four hours. And I think it there is a parallel between that and business and what I said in my post was basically, you can choose to define yourself, as a failure in look at the facts that I didn't reach a hundred miles, therefore failure than that's something I used to do as a grownup as a wrestler, as a football player, if I didn't achieve my goal perfection than it was a failure my mind and I remember, just kind of as a kid, just, you know, taking a few days, just like, really beating myself up in hating, myself versus now my mentality is looking at that and said of looking myself, as a failure, I get to choose whether or not I'm failure, I get to choose and say, okay, what's the lesson to be learned here? The fact that Iran, eighty miles in twenty four hours. I, I didn't know that was physically possible for my body and my mind to do, and had attempted the hundred miles, I never would have known I could I could go eighty miles and just one month of training. And it was really I opening for me. And like you said, there's a lot of parallels between that and business life. Where people might you know, see themselves failing in a certain situation. But if you look at life happening for you instead of happening to you, you'll be so much happier. And you think that's, that's not a failure. If you learn from it in grow from it and move forward afterwards though, I love it. In fact, again I listened to a gardens book, when just awesome. Awesome book one of my take on that was, you know, once you get to forty percent or we've you like your Bowery quick about forty percent way done. You've got a whole nother sixty percent mentally on, like. Quit like so many times it, what would have been forty percent by. I thought it was done though. I appreciate so much as I saw you doing that with your brother and the challenge and everything else, and it gets, especially just due to the fact that so many of us say, I'll do this over the next ten years or five years. You really didn't a month, which blown my mind. I'm supposed to be trained for the Spartan race. If three miles, it'd be an Dunem, nobody can do this. No matter what if have to crawl get anything done. That's awesome. Well, thank you. Go ahead. No. I, I think it's just awesome. But again, as I looked at so many things from a business standpoint, I to see a lot of people who get really excited and motivated. I think that the idea, I is a lot of enthusiasm and motivation and stuff getting going. But then the follow through, is where it really sucks in a lot of people like do I just can't can't equipped to early. You know, we've talked to so many Dunn's version ninety nine yards is not a touchdown maker nuts that staying in the ring type of mentality as far as fighter and it's been fun for me to watch you in business because I know I've seen I've seen there have been times, where life in business, and go exactly the way you wanted to, and I'd like to kind of transition, if you don't mind and kind of talk about this, this whole ideas are as. Defacto fit how that came up and then kind of the business thing that will pick up there. But did little background on what fits fact if it was all about. Yes. A fifth feted I did back into those on Levin. I was a personal trainer at always been shaped my entire life. And to better understand my clients, I decided to get fat on purpose so that I could get a bit understanding of, of where they're coming from because I remember some clients telling me drew, you don't understand you've always been shaped, and that's all you've ever known. And I was I had to agree with them on, like, you're right. I that's all I've ever known. It seems so easy in my mind for my perception. It seems simple. But from your perception is hard. What's the disconnect? There's something that I'm missing maybe doing something extreme, like fit, if it will help change my perception, in and see it from their perspective, so that it can have empathy and then have a better understanding of how to help people stuck in those situations. And so, that's what fit defense, if it was all about, I had no idea what I was doing back, then I just kind of, you know, learn how to create you to general website. You squarespace. And I just put out been doing, but at the time, you know, looking back now you guys are like, man, I'm going to genius hook and I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. That was different. What I'm into. Yeah. You know what it was very humbling going. I think it's been fun for us. Because Russell's used your hook a million times Lilly, one of the best out there. How do you. But I think the cool part is, whether you knew it or not what you've done with that, since then. Yeah. I when you now we're talking it was like, you know, yet, Dave, I had all this publicity, but the revenue wasn't there. And if you don't mind can't take your what that felt like. And what did you do to actually go from? I've got publicity here, but no revenue to now taking that. And I, I've got a business in a funnel and building that from there. Yeah. So a lot of people think fit to fit was instant success. And I it was making all this money because I wrote a book, which became a near ten bestseller would on TV shows like Dr is Dr drew. Good Morning America. Nightline all these big TV shows where everyone all the old friends from high school texting like dude. I'm see on TV. You're all over the place. Must be killing it. And I had publicity and I had a book deal, and that was pretty much it. And a lot of people thought it was just rolling in the dough. And I didn't know how to monetize at the time, and I think what happened for me was okay. Now, I have to have this, this perception is this persona of being on TV now, people think I'm this, but really I'm down here driving? My Honda Civic, not sure how I'm gonna make Manek's payment. What do I do in? So it really was a gut punch for me. And I've just looking for ways for five years, it took me five years to find a way to successfully monetize my business, there was deals here in there in sponsorships here and there to get by but it wasn't 'til admit my business partners that we're talking about this click funnels thing, and I was like, I know nothing about this. It sounds interesting, if you guys know how to do this, and you think of the good fit for this. Let's team up and see what happens in I know expectations. Because at the time there wasn't I don't think anyone big in the fitness industry, that I knew of other than maybe Thomas to lower that was doing this on a large scale. And so from there with their powers combined, my powers come behind. We created this massive Kito digital content that just, you know, it exploded because it was a perfect storm of the, the Kito diet with super-popular you had the publicity of the TV shows, I had been on in the past, and it was a perfect storm for being able to, to reach the, the eight figure club and the Tacoma club end. And then from there, you know, it's just been going really well, and I was there there's ups and downs things. Still to, to be improved upon. But I mean, that's kind of what fit fed fit happened. That's what happened from a business perspective and how it's grown over the years. I love it. You can just see this pattern in your life of doing whatever it takes, and if it's a failure or anything else, it's okay, what am I going to learn from that failure to how do I use that in just your? Samples took five years. I think so often people like you know what I'm gonna go do something different. You were still focused and you'd like I'm gonna make this thing work. And, you know, we talk a ton about this idea about being one funnel away and you just kept working at it, and working at it. And then all of a sudden you know you look back now and everything points. The thing that goes, I'll man, he's just so lucky he just it just came so easy to him. And that's always giving. I'm like, if your story if you really do what he'd been through you'd have such great appreciation for what he's done. Yeah. And it's fun for me. Again I love yourself on the line. It's fun just to kind of see the things you've done. But I'm kind of curious if you take a look at where you're at and where you're going next, what's, what's the next thing is you're looking to do. Yeah. So the thing with my with my business, the way it was set up was we did so well, just off of one offer we sold over three hundred thousand copies of that went offer from there. We know that that's not gonna last forever. You know. Yeah, people will still buy Makita program, but in and the weight loss in history here in America diets, come and go. So it's always about what's the next big thing for me. It's about building upon the infrastructure. So we have the digital content that people are downloading. We have some upsells here there, cookbooks on workout programs. But now it's expanding beyond that, so now we have the supplement line. We're in the process of creating Akito, certification course where we can get other coaches to become Cheeto certified under me, and my brand, the fit brand so that, you know, I'm not, I don't have to be the face of fit fit forever. There might be other people other master coaches that can, you know, pay it forward or become a missionaries, if you will, to reach even more people because I'm only one person. And so it's the. Supplements. The certification course are the next big projects that I'm working on. And then from there, and I haven't really talked about this publicly is bringing it to other countries. So the US is always at the forefront of, you know, the latest and greatest weight loss. You know, a diet, but other countries are fierce behind if I could be the first influence in these other countries by translating, my programs, get him a product certified in those countries getting coaches certified, under my certification courses in these other countries didn't we can pretty much duplicate what we do here in the US in other countries. And so that's the goal now that me and my team are working on to bring Kito to other countries and be at the forefront of it because we are we have the tools in place here in the US now. It's just a matter of, of getting the right, people involved in these other countries. So that's kind of my vision. I haven't really talked about that publicly. It's not gonna happen overnight. It'll take some time for sure. But I'm working with some. Strategic partners on that, just love the it's so funny to talk to you, because you just such you have such outlet ick mind at a business mind combined, they, they feed off each other, and it's like I remember talking to Alex sharpen about this whole idea as far as you know, most most super most people football always want to win a Super Bowl ring. But there's one thing as far as winning that next thing is going to get the hall of fame, and so you have your Super Bowl goals and then you have your hall of fame goals, and it's been fun for me to see you're now, looking those legacy type of goals getting something international getting it worldwide. And for me, the part, I really loves, I've watched you grow is, is this crazy culture in this community that I mean, three hundred thousand years of eight things a ton, but as you as I've seen you do on social, and your and your reach, and you're growing, what are someone thinks you're doing to help build culture as you start scaling. Yeah. That's a great question. This is new territory for me for me. It's, it's learning from other experts that have done this in other industries. To be totally honest with you, because I don't feel like there's a lot of people in my industry per se. That are, you know, have been where I am now because this is a new industry where you can make money. Instead ten twenty years ago, you really couldn't do redoing it now. So it's, it's working with mentors in, in other industries that, that helped me see that parallel between what they've done that works in their industry that I can plug into in my industry. And so for me it's running myself with right kind of people, and that's something that is really important to me, 'cause there's a bunch of people, you can make money with but at the end of the day, that's not what's feeling it's, it's being able to connect with people energetically that have the same vision have impassioned that have the same morals and values that you do in, in lining in lining up with them versus a hey, who can help me make money. There's a million people that can help you make money. But, you know, for me it's more than that. It's like you say about impact over income, and that's what I'm really trying to do. I think for that to happen, you have to know who you are. I so that self discovery taking time to invest in yourself to know who you are. And then and then, from there, knowing what your culture is gonna look like because we don't even know who you are yet then you're going gonna be a leaf blowing in the wind in my opinion. So the past few years. All the personal development that I've done has really helped me hone in on, on knowing who I am. And that translates over to a stronger business model because I feel like you know, I know what I have to bring to the table, and from the mental and emotional perspective versus just the physical transformation side of things. And that's really helped me and my business, I would say, ten x more than anything else. Yes, click funnels for sure. But, you know, I think a lot of has to do with knowing who you are knowing, what your, your, your stand becomes your brand and your mess. Becomes your message? I've really feel like I've done a good job with, with doing those two things of okay? How does go through divorce helped me in my business? Right. Like a lot of people don't see that connection there. But for me, I've been with tight together to help me know find out who I am invest the time and money into the personal development world in that translates over into the business side of things with social media posts, M messaging, and it builds an authentic. Brand. I think that's one piece that maybe some people are missing is they see that as a separate thing they don't know how to tie that into what they're currently doing whether they're selling, you know, Kito cookbooks or whether they're selling dog treats doesn't matter what it is. I think there's a connection between the physical mental emotional spiritual. I love it. I think one of these that would definitely describe you buy. Nets totally authentic. It's, it's so cool eight John. I, I've had the opt you're spending time with you, and it's just a great experience for me, just to see how true benthic you. I see the way you work with your staff, where you work with your partners the way you work with your friends, and your family, whatever your withdrew you get through. And I think that I see even your social post where you're not out there, trying to create a brand or culture anything else. You connect so well with people because you are so totally one hundred percent authentic as all through your your hundred mile journey and just seeing the Vanik posts, and it's so hard for a lot of people to put themselves out there and be vulnerable, but your own ability, just dross only people in and it's been just a been fun, getting to know you better. It's been fun. Kind of watching following your journey but huge props. Huge congrats to you. At I can't wait to see the next ten million the next twenty million whatever it might be a move, portly just the impact that you really are having on the entire industry is just an awesome. So thank you. Thanks. They've Grisham that author let you know, the next time we do our. Challenge. And we'll see if you in wrestle want to join. I'm gonna have to get up to that one thirty days. I'm impressed. Sixty. How's that? Well, I know people are gonna be dying to follow. Find out more about you. What's the bet worse? They connect with yet where they find you. Yes. So all my social media handles at fit to fit to fit with the number two inbetween. So fit too fat to fit. And if you wanna check out my Kito program, which is something I used to help train for this hundred hundred mile race in twenty four hours, a Kito dot fit to fit the fit dot com. Awesome drew. Again, thanks so much wish you all the best in your recovery. Thanks, thanks. Your damp when my friend came in. All right. Hope the enjoyed the podcast right now is going on our dream to one hundred thousand users, we really want to invite you along. At one of the ways, we invite you along one find out what you think about what we're currently doing. So, please rate, review, this share this with others. Take a picture of this and post on Instagram tag us in it. Tack photo hacker radio or tag, Dave Woodward love no, what you thoughts are. And most importantly, the ways that we can actually help you journey to whatever number of users or customers community. You're trying to build. Remember, we've just one funnel away.

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49. La verdad y la lealtad

AstroC?bala C?smica

40:47 min | Last month

49. La verdad y la lealtad

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Crdobas Patios Fiesta with Karen Rosenblum from Travel Spain!

When in Spain

56:09 min | 3 months ago

Crdobas Patios Fiesta with Karen Rosenblum from Travel Spain!

"Hello everyone it's Paul Birch with another episode of the weddings fame. Podcast thank you for joining me from regular journey through Spain Spanish life and culture. Well last week we were in Extremadura near the Portuguese border. A couple of weeks ago we had a wander around the streets of Valencia. And this week where whisking you away to the magical and Lucienne city of Cordoba. And we're going to have a look round. It's festival las Patios. The annual Patio Festival. Because that's what we like doing on this podcast at the moment is transporting you around Spain through the power of audio and of course your imagination as well think believe flower pots of vibrant geranium flowers if every color imaginable whitewashed houses the scent of Orange Blossom drifting through the streets tranquil Patios and they're trickling fountains helping to transport us. There is my special guest for this episode. Yes she's been on the show before a friend of the PODCAST. Spain travel consultant Karen Rosenbloom. Now Karen had a tour organized of the Patio Festival down in. Cordoba happens every year. Sadly of course. That hasn't happened. This edgy to the current situation. Which we don't really need to go into. We all know what I'm talking about. So what Karen decided to do was create a special week long event in her wonderful facebook community called Travel Spain where she's been holding her own. Patio Festival Patio. Competition people have been selling in their photos and Karen's been running lots of other events activities in her travel. Spain facebook own related to Cordoba. She's been trying to take us there. Virtually so we thought what better way to take you guys the listeners and indeed. Karen's facebook community to Korver them. Make poke cast all about Cordoba. And the patio competition so stay tuned. That's what we decided to do. We're recreating a wonder around Cordoba. It's narrow streets and we're going to be following one of the patio routes around the city and we're GONNA be stopping off poking our heads through the doors into these beautiful courtyards. And what also be covering if you must see sites of Cordoba as well but before we transport you off Dakota and it's Patios time to say a big thank you to in Spain Patriots so a big thank you to Bohannon and to give on Lopez. Tc Mask refuse to hand. Yvonne thank you to you for signing up to become the latest when in Spain patrons and supporters of this podcast and well this podcast is brought to you guys the listeners through the kindness of when in Spain patrons so if you'd like to support them support this podcast and the work that I did please do consider signing up to become a winning Spain patron from as little as just one dollars a month you can do that across that. Patriot dot com forward slash winning Spain. And while incidentally patrons existing patrons who already support the cost. I've just published a brand new video for you guys a little walk around Madrid. I did last night night. Walk of Madrid in my favorite places and I talk about a project that I've got coming up as well. So if you're a patron go and check out the video if you're not a patron and you'd like to see the bonus video contended allergies while you know what. Patriot dot com forward slash when in Spain. Anyway let's go. Let's go and see these beautiful patios with Karen Resin Karen. Thank you once again for joining in Spain. Podcast a friend of the show a repeat guest. Welcome back last time. You're on the show. We will wondering the streets of Madrid seems like a distant memory now. Something that we can't really do at the moment. Yeah that was such a good memory. Actually on my morning walks. What's the you know as as anyone living in Spain? Spain knows we get an hour day in our neighborhood. I've been going to plus a vide where we started great memories so thank you so much for having me back pleasure to have you on the podcast. Karyn welcome back. Well we're not going to talk about Madrid in this episode. Actually we're going to be whisked off to Cordoba. Yes so over in my travel Spain community. We are doing a week long to coincide with Noth- Yesterday Los Patios in the city of Cordova. It was supposed to be an in person event but we all know what happened with that so few weeks ago. I got this idea. Alright let's bring it live online virtual all over the world to the travel fan community and when I started conceptualizing this week long online trip that we're taking throughout community hall was pretty much the first person that I thought of so. It's such an honored to be recording episode with you. It makes me so happy really likewise Garin. Thank you for thinking of me. Now you have to travel. Spank community on facebook. A huge and active community for people who love Spain know planning trips to Spain in the future or want to transport themselves to Spain. Virtually an amazing community that you've built on facebook there and again The same with me with the podcast. The moment what I'm trying to do is transport people bring people to Spain who had plans to come and visit but can't because of the situation with covert nineteen at the moment. Obviously but that's our plan today right. We're going to whisk people off to Cordoba. And we're going to explore the PATIOS. The Fiesta de los patios. Let's just talk a bit about the Patio Festival first of all and then we'll explorer Cordoba. The city itself. But what is the PATIO FIESTA? There yesterday Los Patios. It is a festival that Cordova has every may for the usually the first two weeks. We'll see you know how that plays out in the future but the first two weeks of May of every year and it's a really special and beautiful festival. It's actually my personal favorite in all of Spain because it's when you get the chance to explore what's behind those doors in the city of Cordoba. Us You're like imagine you're Wanda you're wondering down the narrow cobblestone streets looking at the let those like cute little whitewashed houses in wondering. What's behind those doors when most of those houses have Patios Aka courtyards which were built really for the climate in Andalucia gets really hot in the summer. In fact. By this kind of nee? It's already usually thirty degrees. Which is I don't know that's like ninety something in height. I'd have to look that up. Sorry America American but can friends in Fahrenheit from California. I should know this but Some thirty thirty five degrees already in May so imagine this summer and the courtyards the Patios are built really as kind of natural airconditioning. And it's an old Cordoba tradition. A lot of them have fountains at the vegetation. I mean the flowers. The colors flower pots of their these beautiful kind of indoor outdoor living spaces. That release terms is a natural cooling place for the entire home because these houses don't have air-conditioning yes so it's a naturally conditioning and when we say like you mentioned let me talk about. Patio. It's basically an interior courtyard said. Normally they are surrounded on all sides by the house some of them have these kind of archways and cloisters as well right so a lot of them are built using Morrish architecture style. Which think about the arches in the mosquito in Cordoba? We'll get to that momentarily on our walk that we're about to do but you see rep not replicas but you see these types of arches and other in various forums in these patios in in Cordoba. And that's you know directly for Morrish architecture the other thing that you see a lot of Beautiful Tile work that you think about when you think of the Alumbrera or the focus are in suburbia you see these in the this tile work in the private Patios as well so it's just gorgeous textually to really is a feast for the eyes isn't so I've been to court of a few times and I have been to the patio festival and you weren't you walk down these. I suppose what are basically residential streets in the center of the city that houses. Yeah these doorways which often closed but can sometimes be open and especially during the Patio Festival. You wonder in You. And he just an explosion of color of flowers and that the tires which you mentioned and even the flowerpots quite often painted different colors. It's absolutely stunning. You almost wouldn't guess that this this existed inside behind these wooden doors. And that's what makes the festival so special that you get to see it that you get to experience this you know very private part of people's lives for two weeks there's fifty patios. Most of them are only private homes. There's a few that are open to the public year round which will get into a little bit when we go on tour today but yeah you really get a chance to explore. What's behind those beautiful doors and Cordoba? One thing that sticks in my mind about the quarterback Patty. Let's remember that these are private homes. Sometimes when the doors open particularly the summer months you walk past the entrance doors are open. You get this waft of cool at Bath's you. It's a real relief from the stock heat of the streets. Isn't it like you were saying with the air conditioning? You get this kind of blast of cool air coming out from the PATIOS. It's just an amazing sensation is and you know it's working and even if you can just take a little peek inside which sometimes I do when I'm in when I'm in core the bar other Andaluz cities when this festival isn't happening you just get that little glimpse but during fiesta. You get to see you get to see the whole patio and it's beautiful this joint paint. More of a vivid picture of what a typical codeine patio would look like inside these houses. You walk through the doorway. You're faced with a courtyard quite often. The floor is tiled. You have tiles guy up part of the walls which are different colors quite often sort of blues and yellows and oranges. I believe they called athlon host. What else are we going to see? Because we say you see flowers which are almost always geraniums right that geranium flower drain implant. Yes drain. Emc every caller possible. My favorite are the deep reds that are potted in those cobalt blue pots. That you see in some of the Patios were actually gonNA visit a pet to patios feature that on the route but on every other color. Tusa the lilacs the fuchsias. Those deep pinks the yellow sometimes as well and then sometimes Paul. You're going to have to fix my on my pronunciation. Sometimes you can see the Bogan India flowers hanging down visa. I think I think India. Flower hanging down a stunning. You find that in lots of places around Spain Deep you shook. Describe it and like you know against those whitewashed houses and then with the colors of the doorframes which by the way always match the flowerpot. So if you see the Blue Door frames and the blue window frames. Our paths If it's traditionally styled going to be that same blue same for the reds the yellows sometimes the. Greens are often too. So it's like the door frames and the window frames and the pots are painted the same color but then the flowers are what adds even more colors. I didn't know that the color coordinated does with the color of the flower. It's amazing yeah for the painted doors. I mean sometimes you also see the earth tone flower patch that are filled with really colorful flowers so you have the flowers themselves and then the Greens from the branches or the leaves. But yeah like for example when you if you think about it when you when you think about the blue ones all the window frames are painted blue as well as the doors and then all the pots to match it in the new have these vibrant colored flowers. Fuchsias reds yellows rose coming out of these beautiful blue flower pots. That are matching a lot of the architect. I'm sure many listeners to this episode. We'll know exactly what we're talking about may have even been to the quarterback patio estival but for those who haven't been Spain before who haven't seen one of these patios unease important to mention that when we talk about these pots of Geraniums. We're not talking just about a dozen on the floor of the patio absolutely everywhere right. I mean they can be hundreds of these hundreds out. I'm actually envisioning photo that I took last year. One of the year so they went. I've been several times with this whole wall. Just lined of these these are I think. Redder Earth tones flowerpots. And it just I mean they look like specks on a Mac they're just everywhere this is yes good point to bring up. It is an elaborate show of flowers. It's not a few plants in the corner. He's a very elaborate show of flowers as well. I mean yeah. I'm looking at some of the photos that I've taken on previous trips to Cordoba. And I mean you imagine the patio. Maybe the internal walls of the courtyard to to stories told the pots are actually a fixed to the wall but from literally from floor to rooftop all the way up you might have. I Dunno going in a straight line from the floor to the roof you might have Tamil mental fifteen pots of geraniums but just covering the entire interior walls of the courtyard. Yes and then sometimes in the middle of these courtyards you have fountains or you have even more vegetation Of course a lot of these Courtyards Patios have their own orange trees and or lemon trees or some sort of citrus trees. It is just. It's so hard to describe with words. But we're going to try to mention as well as if you go to get the middle end of April. I think when the RN JR blossoms around because there are orange trees all around the city. I'm all around the streets. You get this one defoe fragrance of orange blossom which is GS beautiful. Yes and we will be smelling that beautiful fragrance too because it goes into me. I mean it's not as strong. That's a little introduction to the PATIOS. Obviously we're GONNA talk in a bit more detail about as a little bit later. Let's go back and rewind. Let's For people who don't know the haven't been there before Give a little overview of the city because it has got an absolutely fascinating history behind it. Let's talk a little bit about the history and also some of the sites that we can see in the city as well before we start little walking tour of the Patios. So Cordoba is where really the three I guess Classic Textbook Cultures. Because there's obviously anyone in Spain knows it's multicultural country but historically speaking the three textbook culture. So the Jews. The Moore's Ak the Muslims and the Christians are Catholics all kind of converge more or less around the same time I mean there were wore. There was harmony. There was a what was happening in the long during the Middle Ages so Cordoba was basically where Spain's Morris Culture began now also. Cordova has a really really strong Jewish history. Part of the reason that I'm soldier onto it. Is We trace my ancestry back to southern Spain to Andalucia to the south of Spain and released a Cordoba. So quarterback also has a really strong Jewish history. All Spain does of course up until fourteen. Ninety two Jews lived Oliver Spain. The specht people part of the reason. I'm so drawn to Cordoba. Is We found out that? That's where my ancestors probably came from my Jewish ancestors and to this day you can see so much of that Jewish history. Still still in Cordoba. You can go to the old synagogue. We can walk through the Jewish neighborhood so you see that and of course with the rose colored glasses history when the Jews and Muslims lived in harmony next to one another working together to build crate. Universities libraries advanced water systems for the time. It is just such a city where history came alive after the reconquest. After the Catholics you know took over all of Spain. You see in the middle of Makita. The Cathedral was built right on top of that. Which we'll get into so you have caught by in your blood omay really or a corker Besse. We could say very much in my blood and every time I go I personally do feel it There's a reason that I'm drawn to it and Patios. Festival is my favourite festival and all of Spain and quarterbacks one of those cities that I tell my clients a lot of people just a day trip from via or on the way from Soviet Madrid. I really think it's important to take it in spend a few days. Enjoy just the QUAINTON. The quiet the beauty that quarterback has to offer because the mosquito has grand amazing but there are so many places just to wander. And that's another thing. I love about this festival. You get to do that and you get to. Wonder be nosy and look inside people's houses while almost into their house so important to mention that I think personally you know. Some people may dedicate a on the itinerary. One day to Cordoba. But I would say warrants more than just today. You're probably really want to do it. Justice a couple of days to two to four days really. I think it's worth it. I mean people quite keen to just sort of take off on a trip from Seville. Maybe but I think could pass it warrants more time if anyone's coming to Madrid is very well connected to Madrid. You can hop on the a high-speed train to directly to call it up from Madrid. Talk Station this quite incredible. You can be there and I think it's an hour and forty minutes or an hour and a half a different world away in in such a small amount of time on the train. And if you're going down to Seville as well it's a great place to stop for a few days on your itinerary sites on the on the same line isn't it. From Madrid down to Seville. I'm so it was the city of these city of three coaches as it's often referred to Muslims Jews and Christians. They live together peacefully for for a long time. And it's as you mentioned. It became a real center of learning in Europe at the time factor was also one of the. I think it was the biggest in Europe at that time with about two hundred and fifty thousand inhabitants which then was was huge. Let's start our toolbox. Let's set off so we're going to look at Patios you have mapped out a route for us Karen just to let everyone know. This is not the route that we're going to be doing next year when we do the event that was postponed from this year. This route that I chose today is the Mo is the route that goes through his the heart of historic Cordoba. So by the mosquito by the Through the Julia the Jewish neighborhood and the reason I chose this route while a few reasons. We can also really talk about quarterback history and stop it a bunch of places along the way each some good spartak food later but onto this route is not the one that I would most recommend doing in person so I am enjoying June this route. Virtually because in person this one gets a little more crowded than the rest. It goes right through the center of the historic heart of the city. By the mosquito where there's more crowds and more tourists. But I prefer the routes a little further out but for audio recording and for a virtual tour and to show you photos and talk about quarterback. The purple route is perfect. So that's why hosts this one just looking at the different routes that are available. Actually you can do for the Patios and it looks to me like what some five or six different routes you can do in different neighborhoods of Cordoba. Yes there are six different routes and I would say other than the one network doing today and maybe the One. That's really close to the out this hour. The other ones are definitely more of a neighborhood. Feel more authentic Cordoba. So Six routes and you can pick up a map at the tourist center more or less. The routes are usually the same every year but they can change up a bit sometimes. Different houses enter a take a year off. Because I think I don't think we've mentioned yet. But there is a contest to where the Where the where. The homes are judged for best patio and best balcony and there's different categories. So it's kind of like a friendly neighborhood competition as well as a very proud about it and they display a little little plaque little certificate previous years when when they've won the competition or even when they come second or third or something like that. Yeah they love like I've seen so many third place homes so many years in a row in it's like yes that's awesome. I mean out of fifty Patios if you're getting number three good job especially when we talk about the maintenance absolutely for listening to this episode. Who wanted to have a look at these rates you can also find it on the Internet right. There is a website which is patios dot quarterback dot. Es Four Slash Patios. It gives a little map of the city and the and the plots the different routes as well. So if anyone wants to have a look virtually while they're listening to this episode head across to Patios Dot Cordoba Dot es forward slash es Ford's Patios and you can see exactly where we're talking about right so we're going to look at the Purple Rates. Red Green Yellow Blue and Turquoise and Purple. But we're going to perpetrate which takes us more through the center of the city in past some of the key sites right. Let's get started matching kind of heat beating down on us at the moment like you said earlier. Cordoba is one of the hottest cities in Spain. I think it always seems to be noticeably harder especially this time of year than any other places and Phantom was looking at the weather forecast I think two days ago and two days ago and that was the third of May or early May it was already up to thirty six degrees Celsius which is pushing one hundred Fahrenheit. So it's kind of something to be aware of. I guess absolutely be aware of it. Bring a fan just like the Spaniards do and bring some water but also set out early in the day. You can't really go during the afternoon. He that's when they're closed but it's going to be hot spring a FAB and enjoy it. Let's start out. We're going to start out at Kai who the Oh switching. Excellent means Jewish street. So as you can imagine we're right in the middle of the Huta re APP old Jewish neighborhood in core the number six for those of you looking on the patio map in his patio number thirty five and what I love about. This patio is entering it. And you hear the water coming down from that big out right in the middle of the courtyard and it's just so shady with all the vegetation especially feeling all that heat from the outside you know the little streets leading to the mosquito tire starting to get crowded with visitors daytrippers but the patio that you just enter it. It's just a refuge from all of that. It's a really special private space with the owners. Who Live right in the middle of Cordoba. Right in the middle of the food area can just enjoy some shrink time. I'm just looking at a picture now. Sokaiya who the six number six whitewashed walls terra cotta tiles on the floor and a lot of putts of Iranians on the walls. Beautiful the only thing I can see in the photo is which are very common in Spain on Patios. Is the green plants with a long thin? Leaves called Aspe- Distress Aspe- districts deep green leaves long pointy. They thrive in shady conditions. Which is why you always see them in these patios. This is my the patio said has more the earthly Collared Pot. So they've had some cells colored as you can imagine all the flowers add so much color and the net fountain in the Middle star-shaped. You know a definitely a huge a huge part of wars just llamas architecture while the pots themselves aren't really colorful. The Patio space still is full of color and brightness according to the website here it says the house is more than three hundred years old and it was originally candle factory. So next we're GONNA go to a patio that you can visit if you haven't incorrigible. When luff yesterday Los Payers isn't going on but it's called the The Patio of the SOCO. They aren't the same. Those which is basically an art market in Cordoba. Were you can buy little. You know trinkets to take home with you so if you go to that art market make sure to admire. The patio was well while you're there it's one of those ones that you can see year round when everything's in bloom. You can climb little staircase and get really beautiful photos of you with some of these Some of these planters with fresh flowers in them. Why don't we continue onto some patios that you that are more closed off to the public kit that make sense? Where shall we hit next right up the street? We're GONNA continually following the route to keisters payments number ten and I also want to point out that if you're looking at the map with us this route each the route has names and this is this route is actually called the WHO'd area. Which is the old Jewish quarter so this is the route through the Jewish Corner Rutan. Who THAT HE Fest is ten number ten fest Peres Street. This means like loans garages right. This is Brown's Yeah. Yeah and you can see why when you're looking at this patio so you enter and there's some tile work there's there's a little spot in the corner nothing as magnificent as the first step that we saw you can also see that. There's some archways with kind of old Moroccan Arabic lighting on them. Moore's lighting but what's really sticking out to me is the green plants and that makes perfect sense being on grass slash Lawn Street compact looking patio and I noticed that. Yeah we were seeing examples of the tiles sort of black and white diamond shaped Tiles on the floor and as underneath the plants. You can see this. Kind of geometric morrish influenced design with geometric shapes and dark blue and orange and green and little dots of yellow absolutely beautiful. What cozy looking patio that is. I'm so glad that you mentioned that. Paul that a lot of these patios are small Before social distancing became the norm they really only allow a few people in time. And that's why again I I like going to the neighborhoods to in taking you on a virtual tour through this route because sometimes the line can be a little long because he's spaces are released small but it usually goes pretty quickly just on that point. Actually I guess it's important to say anyone wanting to come and do the rates. You don't have to book or anything like that do you. Just show up you get the map. You follow the ray to find the houses and like you said you can. You may have to queue up if you're lucky. If you go to quite a time of day might be up to walk straighten. Yeah that's true Let's see what happens. You know after next year but let's hope that it remains the same. You just pick up the route map. It's free you can go to as few or as many as you want during the evening hours. You can go back to Patios that you've seen before that you've loved it's really a patio free for all and the other thing is the owners of the house is don't charge money to go in usually right but you can leave a donation that's correct. Yeah you'll see none of them charge to go in. But you'll see a lot of them have a little pot where you can leave a donation and by donation. We're talking about a few coins Some of them to would like have their friends over who can play Flamenco Guitar and like do a little flamenco concert in their patio. And you can leave a tip for them as well but yet you're under no obligation to buy anything some of them. I've seen some of the larger patios have little tiny shops with some homemade goods or locally made goods but again it's not it's not a commercialized event. It's you know. Give what you can and and you know it's not even the norm necessarily it's almost like tipping for your favorite Patios. Not everyone that you've missed it and just picturing myself in one of these assays now especially when you mentioned someone from Inco Guitar Inside. I mean how magic believe the orange trees maybe the lingering scent of orange blossom ta the sound of the middle found chain trickling in the middle of the courtyard rounded by all of these beautiful colored parts and the flowers and the cool air of the Interior. Patchy I mean what a beautiful beautiful environment to to soak up. Should we continue on? Let's head to our next Karen yet. Tell me lead the way what's next pets you know. We're going to Kaya Samuel Day. Los Santos in their number five numeracy go. We're going down a little dead end street to get here. You'RE GONNA THINK. Wow you know why. Why are we going so off such a tiny street? What can possibly be there. But if I had to vote for favourite patio on my route on this route this one would be you walk in and you see the arches that are in the style of the mosquitoes are the alumbrera not painted not in that elaborate. But you see those details and then this patio features my favorite thing that a patio can feature. And it's the blue flower pots. I'm GonNa take back what I said about all of the doors being painted the same color because this one actually has a brown door. But you'll see if you come next year to the festival you'll see some of the some of the trueblue Patios for this route. This is as close as we're GonNa get an I absolutely love it Just looking at those deep blue pots with those reds and pinks and Fuchsia contrast this was actually these colors. Were as actually Inspired my brand. I do you know doing trips to Spain. And it's really the colors of Cordova. If I think about it I just love the Islamic architectural features. The hanging blue pots. They really just doubt that Chris Whitewashed Wall a love the contrast of the balloon pots against the whitewashed walls and then these explosions red and paying and Fuchsia is beautiful white stylized in this photo. They've they've space the pops out a little bit more. It seems to me because of the pouches the plots of really crammed in together quite closely. This one looks like they've they've spaced them out a bit more evenly. Maybe yeah I think so. You're definitely seeing that. Like more of the Whitewall which in this case it also beautiful those blue flower pots. I just I can look at them all day. I think they are my favorites. These blue colored parts. I I'm going to. I'm going to put a few coins in the basket. The doorway as well. So what happens when you arrive at these houses normally in my experience and I would have well Oh and weller who both of them sat in the doorway on little wooden chairs to sort of welcome. Well I'd say hello and they might have a little table and the basket for you to put your coins in usually what are the boilers waylon? Is there to welcome? You usually have such thick andaluz accent but I love the accent. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I love seeing as I leave the PATIOS. Yeah so there's usually one of the homeowners. The patio owners. I should say to welcome you an older member of the family. Sometimes so it's a family. Affair sometimes not a multi generational family or like a few neighbors who might like have a shared courtyard and some of the larger ones. All there to welcome you or they take shifts. But it's really nice and it's really personalized also. I think that we should mention when you talk about. What do you see going into Patios You know anyone who's traveled around. Spain knows that these little tiny streets. It's easy to get lost. So how they mark the patio so that part of the route and the competition is they put too big planters right out front read with kind of the logo. Not The logo of the fiesta. But a SEAL OF CORDOVA. I think what it is if I remember correctly and it's usually to kind of tall trees in these pots. And you know that you arrived. Okay let's hit them and Walsall next door actually just this little street. Same Street But number nine we arrive at the Casa Ave which means Arab house and This I really loved these patios because they actually four more style. Patios in the complex and during the year you can also This the space hosts Events and seminars and special events that really lead back to. Spain's Islamic Pass so art shows and movies and anything culturally Islamic. You can find here and a lot of it is open to the public but yeah in you know to to go along with the style of what's being offered in the building. They have four beautiful. Moore's style Patios. Some of them are decorated in Osu Lejos switcher Tiles Paul mentioned and during the year. The center is open. The Patty was aren't always. You know completely done like they would be off the ESTA but you can still check it out and get an idea. Let's just mention that for a second. I'm so the the festival happens. In the first two weeks of May when the majority of these patches which are normally closed to the public or open but is true to say that in other parts of the Times of the year you can get inside and see some interior courtyards as well? Yeah absolutely and there's a few other places that are on this route to see some of the other Interior Patios Palacio de Bianca's my favorite personally. Yet there are opportunities to see the Patios of Cordoba without coming to the festival. You're listening to in Spain. We're talking quarterback and it's Patios with Spain travel consultant Karen Rosenbloom stay with us as we visit the Mesquita. Talk Gordon Food and take off a few more patios on average. You're listening to in Spain. What's actually double back for a moment because as you can see on the route past something that we skipped completely and you're probably thinking wait. Why AREN'T WE STOPPING THE MOSQUITO? Well let's head back there. The route takes his right past the Makita. Makita catedral the. Which is the mosque slash Cathedral of? Cordoba? Fascinating story behind this place. It's beautiful the fascinating story is basically that it was the mosque of Cordoba. The the main Mesquita Pune Islamic architecture and just on a grand scale. You know if you think something like the number this. Is this rivals that however after the Catholics conquered all of Spain they built their Baroque Slash Renaissance Cathedral. Right on top of the MOSKITA. Legend says that the king at the time had some regrets about doing that realizing that he had destroyed a beautiful place but luckily for us a lot of it is still intact. A lot of the original Mesquita should be wondering then have a look. It's hidden inside the potential most Fobel we're inside. Wow Nice and cool cool. I mean we'll go back to the patio and just a second. What is the thing that hits you when you first walk into the mosquito? So you've probably all seen photos of them those right Orange and white arches everywhere they almost look like Candy Canes Candy Canes at Christmas Time But just thinking about those archways with the beautiful bright golden orange. This kind of like stuck go white. I would describe it and it just goes on and on and on it mesmerizes me. It almost hypnotizing me in a way every time. So that's the first thing but the other thing that I think is so important to mention about. The mosquito is look up because the ceiling the beautiful more style ceilings are just. They're going to blow you away. The intricate detail the lettering the carvings the way that the light hits the use of the geometrical patterns all everything that you think about in Morrish architects ter- it's there and it's so beautiful and it's on such a grand scale and it's accessible almost because nobody even though the the mosquito itself might be crowded if you look up. There's nobody up there. It's just the ceiling when you walk into the Mesquita and you see this option. Each stone is red white alternating. It gives that stripey candy cane affect that you talked about which is supported by these marble pillars. When you look across the interior of the Mesquita it looks to makes me think of like a forest of columns. It's there are so many of them. It's huge is a vast space and it's like a forest of marble columns supporting all of these beautiful red and white striped arches just spectacular forest of columns might be the best way I've heard that described. Yes feel like you're just surrounded by them but that's such a good description stadium side but let's have look at what the Christians did to the mosque. It's interesting because this is also the cathedral of Cordoba. This is you know if you think about the Cathedral the Cathedral Granada Toledo. This is where the mass takes place interesting. It's Baroque style renaissance style. It's an oddity for sure but a beautiful on an anachronism really is completely out of place for me. It's a mosque and then suddenly say this cathedral inside. She's very over the top. And incredibly ornate. Go and Google the Mesquita of Cordoba. There are fatos taken from right above the whole complex. Really gives you a really good idea of just how the Cathedral was bill? Slap DAB in the middle of this mosquito is Moscow's most of the Moss looking at the roof is flat doesn't have spires towers particularly one tower of the One of the entrances. But we're talking about the actual mosque itself. It's it's a fairly flat and then right in the middle kind of bursting through the roof. You've got this cathedral which just looks so strange. Why don't we climb the belltower to get a better view of the prototype view of the cathedral and the mosque on top of it? As well as the patio below. Speaking of Patios there's A beautiful one at the mosquito obviously open year round massive in size rooming with orange trees. So imagine that sent in April or May quarterback signature fruit everywhere you. So now we're climbing up the BELLTOWER and the interesting thing about the belltower is. It was completely built by the Christians. It's we're the minute rat for the mosque you stan. But that's gone now and the Christians constructed the Bell Tower up on top of the Bell Tower. That was a crime can look down onto the patio. I mean patio. It's a very big patsy. Nothing to do with the patches. We've been talking about in people's private houses palm trees rows of orange trees and he's got these big tall and thin thirties. I guess and the view that you were just talking about of the Cathedral built on top of the mosques you can really get that bird's eye view from up here. You also get if you look around you get a beautiful view of Cordoba on the planes that it sits on and you see of course like the Old Town area that center historic the city does sit on a river on the river. Guadalquivir which runs all the way down. It's the same river. That runs down through Seville river city. A kind of turns its back on the river a little bit. I suppose the main center in the historic center of the city is really right on the riverside. Nice walk down to the river. And there's a lovely a lovely Bridge Beautiful Bridge Golden Stonebridge court. Wouldn't they miraflores and it takes you across to a park which is called. Parque de Miraflores. This is a little walk remembering the last time I was. There was quite nice because from the bridge. You can look down the river and you look back at the city as well. You got a nice kind of skyline and certainly got a great view of the Makita as well in the distance. The best views are from the other side of the river. And while we're talking about the Moors and Jews you can talk a little bit about the Romans as well so basically reading from the mosquito across the river is the one thing for Mono Ronin bridge and well Cordoba's isn't Madar Tarragona. There are some Roman ruins an old Roman theatre archaeological museum as well but my favorite Roman ruins in Cordova is the bridge. The Puente Romano itself. Because you can cross the river and then you can walk to the other bridge. Their appointed day Mayor Florence. And get just a beautiful view our around. Can you know talking about food? I'm getting a little bit hungry. Karen this walk as well you know me. I always liked to try and bring food into my podcast episodes whenever possible. I mean one traditional thing from Cordoba. Of course Sal Morocco cooled tomato and bread soup to people. You haven't tried it. It might not sound much tomato inbred soup but it's absolutely delicious especially when it's hot in Cordoba. And it's nice and it's nice and showed bread tomato garlic olive oil egg ham on on the top lovely. What else could we? Yeah well I was going to say somewhere. I Ho is my favorite and you know it's always summary Horrid spot. Show is kind of the debate. I am firmly on team Samad. I held but I have to say I take mine without the Exxon. I'm vegetarian. So it's one of those dishes that anyone can enjoy vegans to you just have to make sure to specify seeing how moan and if you don't do eggs seed cabell but the Saturday the other yeah let's let's try some Samurai Hall because the place that we're going does have it on the menu. Does it really well? And also we're going to a restaurant called castle muscle which Masala actually a word in Spartak. Which is the old Jewish language of corn above southern Spain? So basically we're going to try some traditional old Spanish Jewish food right now Really really unique so I highly recommend of course what we talked about the Sunday how it is to die for There's also on the menu the Baron. Hannah's eggplant which hardened lightly fried with a little bit of handball. Sonic on them. Oh my God they bring French fries to shame delicious. The bedroom tennis dip tenant light battery. I suppose fried and then served on a plate drizzled with a bit of honey. Sometimes about stomach vinegar. Oh my God I could be hundreds of. Yeah me too and also I want to mention the cheese because while you know. Galicia and Australia's are really known for their cheese. Cordoba has its own cheese as well it comes from Zouhair does which is a little Pueblo region outside of the city about an hour hour and a half drive from Cordoba itself. The city and the cheeses like a delicious sheep's milk cheese. It tastes so perfect and you can wash it down. There is some local in Cordoba. But I would say really. What are what most people are? Drinking is either Sherry from Herez. Vermouth one other thing. I WANNA to mention is if you go to custos how mixed sure to save room for the dessert. Sephardic cookies are out of this world. They're like my grandma used to make NATO described them for us. I've never tried them. What are they like these cookies? They're very buttery. They melt in your mouth and a lot of times they come. In shapes that you see out of Jewishness Lama history. So I for me. It's like the that the stars and the poppy seeds and that's what my grandma used to make growing up. I will link in the next episode as well. If anyone else who's going to the in the future wants to check out awesome afoul the place. I thought worth mentioning on a visit to Cordoba. As well is the ALKA. The Medieval Fortress Inside has a beautiful gardens which sort of laid out in the typical more stop. Geometric with water fountains ponds and streams late into the into the ground. The gardens are are the recent visit. They're they're beautiful. They're beautiful especially if you really like these more style gardens so if you really enjoyed the Hera leafy and Granada or the the garden at the via make sure to check out the ones in though well at their hell Casare. Alka SARS little avenues inside of orange trees little orange groves almost which you can walk through and you can sit under in the shade fountains again. It's another magical place to go and sit and relax absolutely stunning. Imagine that in April when those orange trees are in bloom heavenly the smell of orange blossom is got to be one of my favorite things which incidentally orange blossom in Spanish is one of the for me one of the most difficult. Where's pronounce his sometimes? When I go shopping in Cordoba I like to bring back. Some Lake did items. Should we do most up on the Patios tall question as well about the patches I wanted to put to you? Why should we wish we had to last patio? This one is one that is open to the public year round as well. It's in the Museum of Fine Arts so Muccio Bass our thanks in Cordova. You can visit the patio anytime of year. What I like about this one is when you enter. It's just the garden. You feel like a moment of of a very tranquil greenery in the middle of sort of a congestive for quarterback at least we're not talking Los Angeles or London but it congested part of the city. I also really liked this one too because again if you can't come to Cordoba in it during Lafayette yesterday Los Patios. It's one that you can visit. The walkways in this patio are beautiful. They're made with pattern stone. And there's orange tree's blooming. You can see these geometric stone pattern. Walkways that lead to a fountain in the middle with kind of blue accents. Why and blue accents. It just makes for a really simple colorful patio without the flower pots. Yeah that's right. The floor is is amazing. The floor of the amazing like tiny stones black-and-white late into the ground making these beautiful patterns and what Stas and plants leaves and geometric patterns the question. I wanted to ask you. How do they water? All of these plans I mean. Let's we've got hundreds of these these geraniums in parts that go up and down these walls and I'm talking two or sometimes three stories tolls. It must take ages. It takes two to three hours. That's where smaller patio. What they do. It's not you know conventional watering system that we think of. It's not like a spray them. All with a hose. It's this long pole. Were they water? Premature each individual plant and also. The water drips down. But it's just a very peculiar process. Karen I got to say it's been an absolute pleasure. I almost for a split second. Thought I was in Cordoba. With you wondering the streets sommes Patios. It's just woken up from a little dream. Hope we've managed to transport listeners to call the a little virtual tour today. It's such a pleasure and thank you so much for being a big part of our virtual. Patios week here at Travel Spain. So guys not WISCON- Rosenbloom that was quarterback at it's beautiful. Patios the mosquito V. L. KAFFA. Some food a bit of everything. Quarterback is a stunning city as we said easily accessible from Seville or Madrid. 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Navigating Between Worlds  Law, Art, The Female Form & Flipping the Male Gaze (With Heather Jones)

Life Things with Maquita Donyel

44:41 min | 4 months ago

Navigating Between Worlds Law, Art, The Female Form & Flipping the Male Gaze (With Heather Jones)

"Hey guys it's the fourth episode. I'm so happy you're all here with me. I am going to lead us. In prayer before we get started as we go into this Good Friday and the acknowledgement and remembrance of Crucifixion. Of Jesus Christ and we celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. Christ's I want to send my deepest most loving invulnerable thoughts to those. That are listening. This weekend I pray that the love of Jesus Christ is among you and your loved ones in the most authentic in peaceful way possible and pray that on this resurrection Sunday you feel the light and presence of God just fill your heart than minds and spirits those that may not have someone paying for them or I think they don't have someone praying for them. I pray for them that they feel loved and not alone and that Bisbee the beginning of a life filled with Jesus love Jesus piece. History has forgiveness and his glory. Pray for the health of those listening. Those not listening and I think you got for the health and the voice that you've given to me Amen Are you seeing? What's happening here? Like I'm not even sure if you are seeing what happened here. I drop an episode. Once a month and the month of March I released more than one episode. I'm just saying I'm just saying as pretty late that they were two episodes and Mike. Welcome to the fourth episode of life things with Makida Daniele. Maybe they'll be two in April birdie parties. Hey guys this is Makita Danielle of Polish pistol. And you have reached my podcasts life. Being here we talk about the things that happen in life whether it be up sir down for moments in our lives that feel like they're going sideways else importantly here we are safe here. We are free and intensity as the name of the game. Dude I have podcast in. This is going to be On episode I speak with Heather Jones. She is a local artist. Who is an attorney by day and artists by day? Different Day quick introduction. I met Heather because she across a post that included words from my book. It was on social media somewhere. And she hitches the book when she then was reading through it she took a picture and posted it on her stories tagged me and I I saw it and I'm like Oh she's Super Q. Her work is beautiful and interesting. For instance There's one or a few pieces that she was doing and selling these kind of miniature pieces and they first appear to be these vases with beautiful flowers inside of them. What they are are they are definitely something with something inside of them but they're women's bodies with vagina with pubic hair on them and they're colorful and fun and beautiful and I haven't for my house. Her pieces Essentially bring attention to the women body and things that I would say are pretty much tucked away not really put out there in the open and she puts them out there put them she puts them out there in a way. That makes them fun to talk about and again fun to have around your house. Okay Hello Hey thank you good. I wanted to mention that you know. Heather Heather is really cool. She has done some live shows. She was in New York recently and she has had people her art auto Where can people keep up with you and follow up with your work and potentially attend? Where should they? Can they find you? Following me is on heterogeneous are on Instagram I do have a facebook too but I don't really know how to use it But instagram I definitely post everything there. so anything ever had that's available so coming up it'll always be placed there for taking the time to accept this interview and Converse with me of a very short time and there's just so many of the things that I've seen are admirable. Yeah from you know you're just different parts of your life to just even how it feels interacting with you. The on their felt you know and that that's really important a lot about. I totally agree. Definitely mutual thanks. The thing that stands how to me about you is. It seems as though you are navigating between worlds and the few ways that I know. And that's interesting to me so if you could just let listeners know a little bit about where you grew up that was I was with your family. And that sort of thing how those things influenced you were impacted. You grew I got mechanics. Strollers definitely smaller town. It's certainly compared to Dc A little more rural a little more conservative Asses where I went to bed for. Undergrad I went for tax vitals and black shirt so that's very similar So it was definitely a place where you didn't hear necessarily so many different opinions fortunate that I grew up in a household. And I think in a friend grouping around people that I always sell Encourage this year high fan and even when people didn't agree with it or it was too much for them. I think Respect with my opinion of always let me think that's something that definitely influences me. Now keep using my voice because I definitely having trouble a lot of people who haven't had that privilege to actually be able to speak freely and feel comfortable especially like you said nothing between different world it. Can you know it's a little harder for some people? They're not others to find their place in time. That respect level especially when you know occasionally I mean. There are a lot of people that don't agree with you from the positions. I have and I think I've gotten pretty lucky. In that regard if able to navigate that fourth and had a lot of really good conversations where I've learned things hopefully people have learned or reconsidered. Something for me I mean. I certainly have ops. So yeah so then you essentially got that. From the beginning you said your family you grew up in a in a home like that. Mccurry. That's really cool and honest. Not even so much I think Remember when I also probably certainly more conservative is necessarily politically but just in general a little more conservative than me But yeah they were always very open. They never tried to show off quiet me and said that yeah. I think that's something really special and that's something I think everybody can learn from Just giving people to stay to themselves and I I definitely feel like I stopped at home. I definitely had the space to grow. Wanted and Really evolved who am now which I think in a lot officially be stifled especially depending what your background is. So they can be. Stifling can be a little hard so I think I'm really fortunate to have had Been around people that were were willing to rest in and appreciate it. My speaking of whether they agree with me or not So then would you say that you eventually then created that kind of world for yourself like in terms of like the friends and people at each other to be around. Absolutely I think absolutely kind of move Together I mean I think there's So many of my friends now that maybe we don't see eye to eye on starting. What are the political social issue? But we find a place where we definitely have a really open communication where we can actually educate each other lands me out and salt heath other or bring down or making. Either you know feel wrong. I think we we're able to have a lot of a lot of good conversations then of course also of course great. The older I've gotten the more I net more people come to the city. I actually can also need a lot more. People that are very life is with me. Which of course Always anything. It's like like these people really get me And I definitely a proposed rate but some of the some of the friends. I have some of my oldest friends that I don't always the iron under some of the ones that make. I think were the growth cones. I definitely I definitely appreciate those worlds for sure. And so just to kind of wind a bit you grew up in Mechanicsville and then so you live there until win and then you went to school wear I lived in eighteen and then when straight from they can sort of Blacksburg to college Which of course as you've seen but coming from the game so it was a very a lot of people in the Richmond area Jail up to Oxford or this past. Oh I it was a home away from home kind of initially. I think it was probably after graduating from college. Defiance of off school and applying much mostly to schools neither Baltimore DC that. I think I think that was the first time it really honestly thought like for me. I was really stepped out on my own kind of alone and doing my own thing. I think that's my really good and He wasn't change. I mean going from being in a really small kind of community To then going to a city with so much cyber so much going on almost Glassberg I kinda would look for things to get into in DC. I mean I could get to retire. Wants to get in to hear so much to do here so yeah I definitely think there was probably going to law. School is when I really started coming into my own and even now being a lawyer. I'm in corporate law. Were on most of my. Most of my clients are in the financial services industry so I obviously meet A. It's not a totally nother kind of group of people and they totally different kind of experience and the things I see in that space. I think I think in general kind of as you pointed out. It's definitely having the home like that's a little more rural rural than being in the office and also having my art friends and also being in the city I mean it really all those places and they somehow and it definitely comes together and helps out but they definitely all impact each other. What happens in one area makes me think differently than another and I think it. It didn't play. So what led you to Law School. And then yeah. Let's start there. What led you all honesty. Probably the biggest deciding factor was that I graduated in two thousand nine. I'm not in a place where I would have left probably. Yeah yeah definitely grew up at one of the probably because I was opinionated. People always telling me how he should go to law school lawyer kind. It just made sense Yeah so I went and it. Kinda honestly if I think the biggest I think. Have you coming up and how it was? I don't know if I necessarily would have had to push and I'm so glad I went and finished but and I think it's Nice I it gets me away and I think going into law school. I felt like it would give me a way to have a voice to be heard and be able to directly say sound to make a difference in certain ways And I think it has done that so it's definitely something I wouldn't say I think my passion life more art than it does in the lawyering but I certainly take so much out of the legal part as well and it certainly gives me a Lotta a Lotta filling definitely. She's just me a lot and a lot of crossover in graduating at that time during a recession that just let a lot of our experiences. Having graduated thousand ten was similar and my peers. You know where people started. Nonprofits either went to Grad school or went abroad or started their own businesses. All of that you know for me. I took a retail job for eight dollars an hour. After graduating I mean there was I mean it was. I remember at that time. Just apply even for like nonpaying internships and not getting and I mean it was so I mean you can find somewhere to work for free. It felt like it was it was a it was a tad. Yeah Yeah it's so. I think it's just interesting. How you speak about being attorney and that whole legal aspect of things and how it inspires who you are and even I think sometimes sometimes people may assume that you have to be one or the other. Yeah your passion lies and one of the other and if you are an artist then more than likely that your passion but you were just good at being in an attorney and so but it's so it's interesting to me that you say it. It's it's not one or the other. So what is it from your experience as an attorney that adds to you? I heard you like in terms of having your own voice but it sounds like if even deeper than that. I think one thing I've really gotten from it is I think it's gives me the ability to be very tolerant with a lot of different opinions In the law firm World I'm constantly all day Coming across opinions. I don't agree with her. And people who don't agree with me that kind of nature of it we're essentially there's going involved. So there's there's human factor that gives me where I think even when I now here I don't agree with it allows me to respond and much more respectful and tolerant way that I think in being much more effective and strange more active sexually more of a change more of a conversation and I think that's Especially when you are I mean I. I am very passionate about issues. I think sometimes passion. 'cause sometimes counterproductive. If it's not it's not in the right way and kind of controlled in the right way especially and there's just relations when you're helping someone you don't agree with or you don't really see and so. I think that's definitely something that all day long being challenged with and I'm definitely take over my private life where I try and I think I try to really understand everybody's opinion. I try not to think of anyone as wrong. And I think that It's interesting in the instances that you find like no. This is just not correct. How do you then? How do you channel that into something? That's productive and useful and either of the world's no I think hunting in conversations and sometimes even I am kind of an introverted person. So it's almost Sometimes I don't get conversation with myself but I do an activity with myself or paint Caen since that message and then by sharing it I hope it speaks to someone else even though I'm So I definitely try to channel it. I I think that's helped me do that. a life things with McQueen We'll be right back after this commercial break. Amongst all of the unfortunate times we're experiencing and his country in the world right now. A friend deny fellow artist in I decided to take our pate and poetic rose sessions online. Hate pros isn't that like a paint inset. Yeah but better during a night of instruction of paint you also be delivered poetry and they all tie into a single nature element related being now feel free to bring whatever it is that you want to serve in fact. 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We take care of each package. We send to each individual and make sure that it is ready to go specially for you. The session itself. Essentially it's about an hour and a half of Camaraderie between women and Janelle be figurative painter and visual artists guides us all three painting while I deliver pieces of poetry from one or two of my published books that are available on Amazon Dot com stories of Polish pistol. The pieces are specifically chosen in. It's all tied to a singular theme over off beams have to do with the nature. Nature's elements something that we're not seeing a whole lot of these days hurt. The that we're focusing on is an. It's pretty fun because you get an actual piece of wood to paint on which is dope and on top of that you get some other keepsakes that our earth related I think is dope and I wouldn't steer you wrong however here are some of the things that previous attendees had to say about their own experience. I was a little bit kind of intimidated in the beginning. Because I don't know anyone in the group but I really thought I thought really well on then there was a very Warm Baker of women on sometime early. Hard you know if if he don't allow people but that's that's really great so I think that the form of just being yourself participating is also such a great idea if you're just limiting this tube women now but I thought this particular format is really very. It's very powerful to me because I think that while everyone's struggling I think we have any struggles as women so really appreciate this. Thanks for inviting. Just getting this little snippet. I'm like I want more victims. Yeah definitely something to look forward to you. Yes rates today. Yeah For me this has been a great experience. Just because I'm a girl girl. I love meeting amazing. Women that are unapologetically themselves and they like to share vulnerable and being strong. The envy funny emotional same time as women as while sisters s friends. That's mother's business when so many times to get to Take a moment ourselves solid each of you for taking the remnants this evening to share that time with us because we spread ourselves so thin many times and to have the opportunity to just relate to other women in a really spiritual and artistic and combing. I mean every time you read a poem I closed my eyes and I just heard it. I didn't look at anything. I just was listening to it. Every time Janelle painted something I was trying to. It's like this really interesting juxtaposition between all of the senses of listening to something and taking it in without seeing anything creating your own photograph in your mind and then opening your eyes and creating something. That's actual tangible art on. I think you guys are onto something that people are going to need more and more. Please please please thank you. So much Everyone for your stories or sharing your time. Your energies is being by this evening of we can grow this community and make it amazing. Because I think it's really important off we together. We can can either register private session or General Session by googling and poetic prose in booking a session on our schedule. Cpa's or clicking the link inside of the description of this podcast episode guys. We are headed back into our interview with Miss Heather Jones cash. That's so interesting On the other side of it with our how would he say that then kind of adds to or speaks to who you are and and I think I think to like something I I realize as artists? Is You a lot of times or we a lot of times? Put out things that it's it's almost like a timeline rate. So we could produce something five years ago and now and it'll be two totally different potentially not always but two totally different pieces or creations or music or whatever type of art do so. I don't mean to limit it to that. But how does the art kind of speak to who you are as like how you explained being an attorney kind of does that for you into into your how also does it speak to it being like you're passionate like why is it your passion? No that's a good question Gosh why isn't my passion? I guess and I think maybe. That's what What makes it my passion that it's kind of an innate thing that I feel like us me and that don't necessarily have a reason explanation for why maybe that's on the difference in the legal space? I'm wearing my logical reasoning is whereas with much more just comes from a place Just kind of within again. I don't sound cliche but he kind of speaks for itself and kind of manifest itself. It's so Inherited Natural And so I think yeah I think in that way. It's much less so less much less intentional. It just kinda happens to it happens and Kinda cheer for so many. I think everything I make from like a big painting whether it's like a little doodle. I mean it really has been away of Kinda like trapping time I still now. I can look for six years ago and see something and I remember immediately what I stopped in that moment and it might be completely different now. I love that I mean honestly I feel like like. Let's transports in such an emotive way. Especially I think it's so it's so hard to explain. I'm sure it will. I guess for you as an artist writer. You're actually very great explaining that But I think not only won't come. It comes out that way I think Yeah when I I love your. I love following writers because I I envy so much how how writers can express what they're feeling because. I think it is very march sometime. That's like a painter or a drawer. You have so much emotion and so much meaning feeling for what you're doing but kinda very nature of it. It's very hard to put into words so it's Whatever you end up putting out there is sending some kind of message opinion. I'm kind of picture that is authentic. You and I feel like I'm doing that. Hopefully doing that And I think the way that Kinda happens isn't it just happened. Naturally as opposed planned way so many of my decisions really plan behind them. It's just trying to a little snowball rolling and we just kind of see what happens. I guess trying to thing. Yeah I think that hopefully translate makes it? Come off a little more authentic. You say it just happens kind of I know that feeling so very well even going back and reading poems. It's like Gosh like I remember writing you know but I know when I'm in a certain state is just pouring out is not a whole lot of strategic thinking unless there's a pizzas intentionally created that way which sometimes happened just to challenge myself. You know but yeah I completely. I'm aware of that feeling. I know that feeling so like instant starting art. What was that free you like? Was that a formal process. Did you kind of just start? Was it just like a way of all these Art have always been a draw like always been creator but never really in a concrete way. More like journal keeper. A Judy Muller I I really I mean. Of course I painted things before but I really didn't start painting away now until honestly probably a year and a half ago tired of that I mean. I don't even have those kinds of supplies. I need a little mostly does Drawing stuff and honestly I just never really shared I mean people who know me well would of course just because they come across or what have you. But it wasn't really something I share and it was really and again just like your and a half ago that I think i. I think I might have posted something on my private instagram page. And I was not and of course. Kinda worried about posting. It wasn't sure I wanted to wallgreens how that would you know. Change how I felt about it But it was people are supported and And I realized you know of course the support Delta Office put when I made out there At the end of the day. That's kind of the point and then of course mistakes makings for yourself. But it's also great to especially things that not her to get out there and so I mean definitely started out very It was like baby steps. I was really scared on evenly scare kind of paranoid Jerry. You're insecure it out it And I'm getting. The ads. Goes on getting more comfortable with. I need more people to talk to more. People get more feedback positive or negative and definitely becoming more comfortable but it really is very new In have always been a creative. But it's it's very new that I'm putting it out there in a way that I actually presenting myself that way other people. I think before it was kind of my little. I don't WanNa say my secret hiding right secret in the way. Yeah it's like I kinda like to see it as like a. It's obviously different but but similar to like how you feel about your child like something you just care about so like it's you have to protect it from people's opinions in. You keep them around certain environments. That are safe. It's so true inspired so I love I love like sharing your heart with other people because it's so fun so it's it's like it. Does this perfect talk about navigating between worlds. I feel like it's even resemble itself in your art because you have this ability to create something that I feel has a very like strong message is the right word. But it's it's like It's not something that is hidden at all. It's it's really put it right up there and it's very blatant but it's done in a way that also is super fun and you can't miss it like you take a second look and you're like you know and so it's it's like again one of those things where it's almost like you know like how comedians can talk about something so deep and make you laugh about it even though it's that's the great yeah the pieces that I have I like and I was just talking about it like with my daughter in law today. I'm like it's so cool because you're looking and you're thinking oh they're basis flowers no there for China's and that's right that's so that's able to do both in its humorous and it's fun and it creates a conversation around very human normal but often is communicated that way. Could you know and certain in certain cultures it? Can you know the naked body and especially the women body can just be very like vulgar? You know actually no It can the female form can be so objectified to the point that it's the senior figure. It's a specialized in and of itself and like yes. I can't that was so many of the custody deals ides's minimalist drawings that are literally just like a woman's curves and and a lot of time. Don't get reported actually suggested that. I mean there's nothing sexually suggestive about woman and having breasts in having a bottom that there's nothing inherently sexual about that and so that's definitely something. I try to play with just with like safe and simple concepts and just showing that. There's nothing dirty or scary or you have to cover your eyes just because you're seeing the outline of a woman stress that can be sexual but it doesn't happen crush all Right right and that that in itself encourages a conversation. So it's interesting right like yeah right as have words but I feel like that encourages dialogue. I definitely hope so. Just even like internal mom Hans of like. That's interesting. Do I feel you didn't even how do I feel about it? Why do I feel that way about it and I hope it does? I mean I definitely I hope it. And that's the kind of thing like as time goes on to get more comfortable than initially. I mean naturally I have you know family. Friends Co workers people who follow me those things and be like. Oh it's just too much and you know the longer I go the more I get comfortable but I'm sure I think likewise lava people probably comfortable and maybe ask them about wide thing where I ask myself. Why am I think yeah? I think you're absolutely right that it. I hope it can start a conversation but even internally started some conversations kind of thing yeah exactly like you said just kinda thinking about why something impact you a certain way now about as did based on how ucla versus how you KINDA programs with. Yeah I think so much about just how women are portrayed. We're kind of program even as women to a childhood veggies other to not. No I mean you know if you WANNA say you're GONNA lose you either way you're gonNA lose kind of like no matter what choices you make. They're going to get group telling you your raw. I hope it does that dialogue. Will you say that your earlier art kind of showed that hesitancy as like I? I hear you saying you've getting more. You're getting more comfortable in that sort of thing but where you kind of more reserved or less inclined to to show something so blatant earlier on because of that I think so. I think I definitely was and I think earlier on that came through a lot It came through a little differently whereas now I think I'm becoming more comfortable Really focusing on and then it was kind of a similar idea but I would play with kind of different women's issues I have like the nonpaying depicting nudity. Kind of looks like violence state. That's the same time it's also beautiful. She's rainbow colored and you don't really know it confuses you but as you look at we don't know if you're supposed to be happy or sad or is it prettier ferry and. Kinda threw out that definitely. Kinda get seen stuck with where I really liked To appeal to different people. That wouldn't necessarily think they'd be and the same group but that it gives different there are i. I love that one. That's one that you posted and ask for name suggestions rain. Yeah that one's in it does it creates even because of the colors us you know that. Whole light and dark and Then yes the actual like image itself will the not is just. Yeah Yeah. You're not quite like for kids. You saw it would you. Do you need a cover? There is no kind of yeah. It's one of those things kind of what is it about this. That's making these certain way feeling that starting away Yeah I like the I guess issues myself and confused a little. Bit Missing Them. Kind of think a little more. Do you mind sharing a couple of the issues that matter to you that you choose to speak on through our. I think there aren't my my biggest. I guess than necessarily WANNA stand in kind of so socially speaking. I have really strong desires Just how women feel more in control of their own bodies their own sexuality or lack thereof whatever the case may be more in control and more accepted and to kind of really slipped in the mail as a little bit. I think so many things especially in art are even when we don't realize that there needs to cleese a heterosexual male. I mean it's geared toward the male case and you sometimes we'll see I feel the time I mean a girl post healthy and that's like she's created though she's arrogant or she's Dane but then virtually every aspect of society does just that and so it promised like everyone else to gaze at her but documentation that herself or or by you know and not something that I really try to Try to combat and it's something even I mean there's so many times Trying to look for there's one coast. I have where we'll pre any. I have where I post something where I'm painting and you can see my bottom. I messages from people that are just like saying you know saying and doing this and it's kind of like what you want me to do. Not Talk about him like where where where where a towel around myself that she showed it myself working in my work face. I mean it's kind of ridiculous but you know it it. How some people think so. And it's very it's unfair and I really do try to I have to say even if I was ready on the news. I mean it's honestly that would be my business and I feel right. You know whatever anybody wants to do I if their if there this as an and I know I'm getting I'm sure other women are getting it too and it's just unfortunate. I want women to control their ends is and how it's perceived and how they perceive and if they ever how ever that may be reminded me that maybe however not monitor that maybe. I just want to feel in control. Their own bodies our own sexuality their own opinions instead of seeing themselves through through the male gaze through kind of objective is us and just a few questions. This is great. What what What drives you in? What motivates you? I know that you know there's like you mentioned that. Just you have to you have to do it. You have to get out the way that you express yourself. There's that but in both in both areas because they're both equally you're equally passionate about both of them so I don't want to just focus on our but right. Yeah so what drives you motivate you to continue doing both I you know I think that I get so much. Those they just comes from such different buckets and they both. If I lost either I would not feel us that aside. I hope other people can see that in and realize that too. I mean you don't have to pin yourself down as you know whatever it is. I'm not sure I want to be a mom. I want to be hard and all these things and taking out People trying to do that and I think even you know in the law firm station aren't well that I know of. Maybe there's a lot of artists and I farm and they just don't talk about it that much but even that I think the more I share in the more open up in that regard even two people within my law firm space but the more I find that maybe there are and they think maybe steam and a good way in a way that again makes them think and maybe even reflect on themselves like oh. I used to dance. I used to right wrongs. I used to do this. Why don't I and that's also something that I love to see. I mean I love from strangers and even people I grew up with his methods you instead. Our things made me WANNA do X. Y. Z. And I think that's awesome like there's no member I think there's no better feeling really than tearing somebody say that that influenced them to do something that they've been wanting to do and yeah because it's almost like I mean like you said like what's what's the point of doing it is that it goes back to that right at four and this pain energy forward and and yeah yeah yes to someone that is into women specifically who are kind of maybe navigating these different spaces and are having difficulty doing so and and wanting to explore. You know one more than the other having been someone. That's been doing that. Would you advise or say to them? Honestly I would say to to do. It feels right which sounds so cliche but with these kinds of isn't there so much at least for me having been in the legal world. There's so much logic that goes into it inches rethinking and I'm thinking too and that you're thinking too much it probably needs you WanNa do it. Just go do it and see what happens and I think I think all of us sometimes can put too much weight into a particular decision when you know life is. Life isn't static. We can make the purchase. Change your mind and I think I was just advise people. She's not to be scared. I mean maybe it won't work out. Maybe they'll change your mind. Maybe it's the worst idea ever but you'll recover if it is and just do it and I think it's very many many many years to finally and I certainly don't wake up one day and say hey. I'm just start sharing my art. It's it's something I've thought about for years and just never done it or a million not to and sometimes you've got to ensure talking to another world I think to like one. Yes snap search one of the things that I that became very obvious to me over. The summer was how like tomorrow's not guaranteed and. I think it's unfortunately becoming a reality that we live in. Now you know like we rate so why not. Don't assume that you have tomorrow. So that's for sure and I see so many now everything going on which is of course horrible that you see so many different. It's just silly. Little proposed so how people are just reflecting sandwich definitely on Nice on the environment on issues and I mean it's great. I mean it's Great. That people are really thinking like you're indifferent And I think it's totally true. It definitely makes you realize where you WANNA spend your energy and how much your energy worth is worse than. How much actually need that you really. You only have a standard amount of it and the channel it to the right thing. Fearfully side Oh I'm so glad that you're in DC. I'm so glad that you came across my book and I'm so glad that we cross pats Y- Talking with you more offline. This is fun. She should really follow. Definitely yeah I am Kerr also recording really quickly Dallas. Great Great Right We have a few more interviews coming up following this episode. 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STILLNESS: How to Find Peace in a Frantic World

The Next Big Idea

46:51 min | 6 months ago

STILLNESS: How to Find Peace in a Frantic World

"It's May twenty third the two thousand two and the fans walkies Miller Park. Boo Is Sean Green steps to the plate. Greens and outfielder with visiting Los Angeles. And he's a star Dr or at least he's supposed to be but he's been struggling. His batting average is down and the fans have turned against him. The first pitch is a strike. Green is tall and fast and has a sweet left-handed stroke. He's always hit for average aiming for singles and doubles but coaches. Want him to swing for the fences to hit more home runs. Let's Greens not on board. And he fights fat he knows what makes him good. And that's not it. The second pitch is a strike. Greens Means Battles with the coaching staff of taking an emotional toll. Baseball was always fun now. It isn't his dark mood compounds. His problems at the plate hitting a baseball coming at you at ninety five miles an hour is one of the hardest things to do in sports. It's even harder if you're confused and angry and depressed on the the next pitch breaking ball pass first base it for green is jurors will score easily. Green Hits doubled down the right field line driving in run next time up even better next bitch and Greenspan's a fly ball to right. Oh show has to go back on the ball still going back and this ball is Outta here. A home run John Green. It's his first home run in a month and the time after that green swings drives at high. Hi and the right center field. This was back. He's at a second home. Run in the ball game. He hits another homer in the fifth inning and then in the nine to right Centerfield. He's done it. Four home runs for Sean Green. The Milwaukee fans earned their feet giving him a standing ovation they circles. Third ONE EH. Green ends today with six hits four of them homers. It's the only time that's ever been done. He homers three more times in the next two who days and as he circles the bases after each homerun his face is completely blank fast and baseball in the major leagues. Even faster the speed of the pitch taught me incredibly valuable lesson that to achieve the seemingly unachievable. You have to go slow to go fast. Ten years later. Green gives Ted talk where he explains how. He rescued his career. It wasn't by working harder thinking more or drawing on his inner rage age. It was by settling his mind using techniques you learn from a master of a martial art called Qigong CI. Gong is an ancient Chinese martial arts form of meditation integrates physical postures breathing techniques and focused intentions. Within the first month I started to notice some of the positive is it affects the calmer mind increased clarity in a physical sense of peace for author Ryan. Holiday Greene story is not about the the value of Qigong or meditation or of the STOIC Philosophy. He's helped popularize in his books. It's an object lesson in self mastery discipline and focus drawing on a simple principle. We can all pie in our own lives. It boils down to one short phrase. Stillness is the key. The next big idea is supported by butcher box. The meat delivery subscription in that sends a box of the highest quality meat to you each month for a better price than the grocery store. Butcher box is the most convenient way to get healthy. Humanely raised meat it shipped right to your door and it's really affordable. It comes out to around six dollars per meal. I have three dastardly. Little Boys Three little carnivores and they loved the grass Fed burgers and steaks but their favourite the pork ribs which my eleven year old described thoughtfully as insane and. Hey check this out whether you're going to be watching the big game or not. Here's a reason to throw a party. 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Finding finding stillness in an unstable World Ryan holiday originally found success in the world of marketing where the pace is anything in but still he built a reputation as someone who was always ahead of the crowd in two thousand fourteen. He published the bestseller. The obstacle is the way about modern stoicism critcism a contemporary take on an ancient philosophy. That says that you can turn trials into triumphs by controlling how you respond to them. He followed that with the Vigo. Is the enemy yet another bestseller that argues that we have to conquer our belief in our own specialness if we WANNA do world changing work. He's also the author served three hundred sixty five daily devotional on his blog the daily stoic in stillness key holiday riffs on equality shared by leaders. Artists thinkers athletes and visionaries throughout history. The ability to settle the Mind Ryan holiday. It's great to have you on on the next big idea. podcast yet thank you. It's good to be here so Ryan. Stillness is the key to the key to what yet not to be a glue about it. But I'd sort of say to everything saying I don't think there's really any situation any profession any personal experience that isn't improved or more experienced better through a kind of a stillness of a slowing down of being present of locking in. We love this story of Shawn. Green Lien Right. May Twenty third two thousand two up at bad tens of thousands of people screaming a baseball hurled adamant ninety miles per hour. And somehow after this Horrible slump. He produces one of the best three day stretches in baseball history. So what is it you like about this story. I tell that story because as you know I'm fascinated with baseball hitting baseballs probably the single hardest active in sports. You have like four hundred milliseconds to identify and start swinging at a pitch Wjr Yogi. BERRA's line that you can't think and hit at the same time. What he means is like you can't be thinking about your slumber your batting average you have to be a hundred percent sat locked in on that task in front of you and so what green was able to do is as a practitioner of Buddhism? Yesterday wrote a book called the way of Baseball and subtitles titles like finding stillness at ninety miles an hour when he manages to do is sort of create a routine create a practice a ritual. I mean he's literally up to the plate saying to himself self chop wood carry water. Chop Wood carry water. He's clearing the mind and you know in the span of like a single a bat he goes from a slump to a streak and how clearly clearly wiping the mind. Clean is necessary. Both when you're down and when you're up right so I think it's like it's fourth or fifth about in that game. He's having to do the same thing right he's having to go like can't think about how many home runs I've hit. I can't think about the fact that already hit a grand slam. I can't think about the fact that this streak is finally over. I have to wipe it all clean to chop wood and carry water and I have to zoom back in on this task in front of me and I have to be right here. Can't be anywhere else and you know he managed to do it and and have one of the great performances of all time. I have to think that one of the reasons that there is a an interest in stoicism and Buddhism. What is in mindfulness right now? Is that argue. The world has never been less stale in the world. Moving faster and faster and faster but we may be hitting like a crescendo of stillness. But it's remarkable to me in the opening pages of the book. You describe how Seneca is sitting there in his apartment. There's a gymnasium under him where weightlifters weightlifters are dropping weights. I think he says the noise of Anchin. Rome is enough to make me hate my powers of hearing clearly. This isn't entirely new problem. No I mean what I I love about passages like that and Seneca's letters are full of them is you get this glimpse that sort of for all the change. Everything is still basically exactly the same like you could take that scene first off. It's probably not that in this from Rome today but you know it's also New York City in Los Angeles and every major metropolis it's vendors and shouting and neighbors and construction and I think unfortunately fortunately what we've added to that our email alerts and Social Media Ping's jackhammers and airplanes and car horns and all these additional noises. This is on top of it but the fundamental problem remains the same. What's interesting is not only is senator being distracted by the noise of the outside world but at the same time you know? His career is falling apart. He sort of trying to figure out where he fits in this world and it always been this sort of hyper ambitious person sort of performing performing for history. There's a lot of forces stirring up in this person. And somehow he manages to quiet all of that and produce this is the Meta level of it produce a letter that two thousand years later holds up perfectly and I'm just in off of that. So stillness illness is the key. No subtitle concise simple. Maybe an exercise in stillness itself if there were one what if you were to do a counterintuitive subtitle. I might throw out the Blaise Pascal. Quote all of humanity's problems stemmed from man's inability to sit in a alone. I think it's fascinating about that. Quotas you know he says it sometime in the mid fifteen hundreds the idea that even five hundred years ago we had trouble just sort of sitting and being whether it was writing or thinking or writing a letter or reading a book or whatever we're supposed to be doing he's just hard and then when you have this device in your pocket that means you don't have to do that shouldn't surprise is that we don't have a lot of that time anymore. They actually did a study. I think where they gave people two options. You could sit quietly in a room alone for fifteen minutes or you could give yourself a painful electrical shock and leave and the majority of people take the the painful electric shocks so this inability to sit quietly with our thoughts I think is a perennial human problem but certainly one. That's been exacerbated by technology and just like the frenetic pace of the modern world. Yeah the internal factors are fascinating to me. This question of to what extent is our lack of stillness. hardwired and I've always always been struck by when you watch like nature documentaries right there. Predatory animals are relatively calm. You know up until the the strike but the prey is skittish right at. I think that we tend to think of ourselves as sort of top of the food chain. You know the Predators Rodman pray but when you look at arbitrary history in our incestuous environment we were often. Pray it strikes me that we have some of the skittishness of pray. Well I think we're a little bit of both growth right. What what I find fascinating about humans? I think this ties to your point and certainly ties to pass cows point evolutionary we can see why the restlessness salaciousness and the insatiable -bility and the curiosity serve the species. Well I have a line from the author Stefan Zweig and my favorite novelists of the Mid Twentieth Century. You know he says. History reveals no instances of a conqueror being surf it'd by conquests meaning like no conqueror. Career ever gets what they wanted. And then it's done and he's talking about Magellan wrote a fascinating biography of Magellan we can see why Magellan's desire takes for he takes this massive risk. Magellan has no idea where he's going when he he pretends to have like a secret plan and he has no secret plan and and he's just drifting and it's a massive gamble now from species wide level. If you zoom out you go. This is wonderful. He's done an incredible amount for human beings with his circumnavigation of the globe. But it doesn't work out for Magellan Magellan dies like before he makes it all the way around and so I think you look at someone like the on. Moscow seems to be utterly insatiable. If you wanted to be a little bit more politically inclined you could look at someone like Donald Trump. What makes these people do what they do? It works generally well for their relatives in their ancestors. Or you know. In some cases for the general common good but it doesn't seem like it's the the source of much happiness or contentment for them and in fact what sort of defines them as the inability to be still inability to enjoy what what they have even as incredible as the scope of their accomplishments has been you also write about Leonardo Da Vinci. Leonardo Davinci was driven by designed designed to replace his father who never fully embraced him. Yes and this hunger created some of the greatest art in the history of man and so on the one hand you can say we hope for Leonardo Vinci with success wisdom and and reflection comes greater calm and stillness but we wouldn't necessarily wish away the unsteadiness the complexity of that in the beginning. Would you agree. Yeah I mean what I think is fascinating about Davinci is that so yes. On the one hand it feels great art but it's also also the reason like half of his art is not finished because he couldn't stay in one place long enough you pick these sort of battles and squabbles with people and it's why alternately. He is like very far from Italy. Because you kept packing up and moving every few years you would get this itchy and instead of like you know going to therapy like a modern person. The news like I need a new patron. I think it was epic tells us who told the students that the chief task in life is to identify separate what what is in our control from what is outside our control which reminds me of the great serenity prayer which I'm sure you've heard. Oh Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things is I cannot change the courage to change things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. What's so beautiful about that? Prayer is that it is very much rooted in and inspired by Hi Stoicism and I think it captures you know what the stokes would define as sort of the four main virtues. Right wisdom justice justice that's doing the right thing. Moderation that sort of balance and then the courage to serve face a world that is so largely outside of your control and so what the stokes stokes believe is that although the vast majority of what happens is outside of our control what we always retain what remains in our control. Is the ability you to respond to those circumstances. And so. That's kind of the core precept of the philosophy which is like you know events you don't control but how you respond to events that's thank you and so this distinction between what's up to you and what's not up to you is obviously that's a thing you want to run through on a regular basis but I on the sort of Meta level what you realize is that basically nothing is up to you but your own thoughts opinions and actions. There's little doubt in my mind that there's a kind of Akwa poise implicit in Stoicism mm-hmm and Buddhism and mindfulness that delivers a peace of mind. which we all need and great strategic advantage navigating life? Yes but I do wonder when you look up. I mean I've always thought of the word stoic is having a little bit of a pejorative connotation like in Miriam Webster says that Stokes aspire to be free from passion. AH UNMOVED BY JOY and grief and that causes me to think but isn't the reason we're here precisely to be moved right to experience joy and grief and I mean as sentient beings. Isn't it our job to smell taste relish. There's basically been no phrase done more of an injustice in the English language than the phrase stoic philosophy when he thinks Doug we think lower case stoic emotionless nece suppression of emotion and then we think philosophy you sort of abstract theoretical serve impractical nonsense basically and stoicism on the other hand is I think the upper case stoicism awesome as we call. It is a far more robust shuman resilience sort of You know robust way of living. That I don't think is about emotion and listen to this and really any way I think it's about a freedom from destructive passions right. It's about sort of trying to even out those things. We're all trying to even outright outright. We're all trying to. Nobody's glad that they lost their temper. You know we look back at periods where we were wracked with grief and from a distance we go you know. I wish I'd known then that it was going to be okay right. I wish I hadn't taken that so hard and then in moments where we look back where we were celebrating braiding or assuming we'd made it or you know we were good. Those are the moments we look back and shake our head out and things like how naive we are so I think what Stoicism as a philosophy lawsuit about. It's not about suppressing emotions. But it's about not being whipsawed by the ups and downs of life. It's about creating a framework a set jeff principles and exercises that. Allow one to thrive and not be so much at the mercy of these forces interior next year when we've slowed down the whip saw Ryan Holiday says when we've come to terms with what we can change what we can't we don't just find inner peace we find the focus. We need to really get things done. The next big idea is supported by. Wait for it. 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We're dedicated to spreading life-changing maybe even world changing ideas like those found in Ryan holidays. Stillness is the key. If you'd like to help support this mission and get a free copy of Ryan's book in the process. Join US AT NEXT BIG IDEA club dot com slash podcast and use Promo Code still. That's next big club club dot com slash podcast. Promo Code S. T. I l. l.. It's just before lunchtime on the sixteenth of October Auburn. One thousand nine hundred sixty two John. Kennedy's in the Cabinet Office of the White House for an emergency meeting with military and intelligence advisors medium range ballistic missile launch to Kansas Missouri. CIA Imagery analyst tells Kennedy that Nikita Makita Khrushchev. The Soviet leader has installed nuclear missiles in Cuba ninety miles from the Florida coast. The missiles are capable of destroying most of the United States and killing millions of people if they're launched in the US retaliates. It could set off a global nuclear war. Defense Secretary Robert McNamara lays out the the options while military alternatives McNamara is understandably nervous. The fate of much of the world is at stake military man like solid information. And there's a lot he doesn't know UH launchers must assume there'll be clear warhead associated with Erica either optically associated with aircraft assume that those aircraft advice foes catch over the next few days a stream of experts offered the president advice together. They game out the scenarios news on October nineteenth a special meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Air Force. General Curtis Lemay recommends an airstrike Kennedy resists the advice to attack Jack. Instead he takes long walks in the White House Rose Garden trying to puzzle out the Soviets motivations they know we have more nuclear weapons. They know we had missiles in Turkey within striking distance of Moscow. Why would they want to provoke us after hours of quiet contemplation? He concludes it. The Russians think he's weak. It's not that they want to provoke a response. It's that they think he won't respond but proving them wrong is no reason to start a nuclear war. Our policy has been one on of patience and restraint as befits a peaceful and powerful nation which leads a worldwide alliance. Kennedy orders worships to the the area and goes on national TV. He announces that military quarantine on Cuba. No weapons go in and no weapons come out. He calls for emergency meetings of the UN Security Council and the Organization of American States. And he addresses Khrushchev off directly. I Call Upon Chairman Cruiser the hall and eliminate this clandestine reckless and provocative threat to world peace and the stable relations between our two nations. I Call Upon Him further to abandon this cost list of world domination and join in historic effort to win the perilous arms race and transform the history of man after six days of tense exchanges between the two leaders and high level. Diplomatic Meetings Khrushchev finally orders. The missiles removed the Cuban missile crisis. This comes to an end Ryan holiday says the key to averting nuclear war was the Kennedy slowed. Things down I think about Kennedy and the missile crisis there is an unreasonable to his insistence of sort of no. Let's walk through this. Let's not do the the easy military option. Let's figure this out. There's gotta be a way out of this. I'm not giving up so easily. Why did the Russians do this? What do they want? How can and we work this out? You know I'm willing to do whatever it takes to work this out. We expect the president to be decisive to act immediately to respond to clear and present dangers rangers. Kennedy had this expression. Let us use times tool not as a couch. The insight and the empathy took to go H- actually think the Russians massively overextended themselves here and that we can give them a moment to come to their senses but if we act if we just rush in if we do this is why the still believed passions nations. Were so dangerous if we react emotionally to this. There's not gonNA be any of US around to regret that decision. And so I think what you see in the missile crisis is what great leaders do which is that they slow things down no matter the stakes no matter the intensity no matter how complicated they slow slow it down and they work it out and that calm becomes contagious. I connected with the market surrealist which I love says the rock standstill and the the raging of the C- calms around it. And I think I sort of see when you look at pictures of Kennedy there in the Oval Office. I kind of just see every this giant Ryan waves crashed into him but it calms around him because he's got the the stillness and the confidence and the clarity of vision that that position and requires an you know millions of people. We owe our lives to that thirteen days. It struck me building digital media companies over the years that I needed what I like to call. Venetian blinders so you think of like the blinders on a horse staying focused on their forward motion. Whatever we're doing? We need to have some awareness awareness of what's happening to our left into our right of what's happening in the world but it's very easy to have way too much information coming in right so the ability to kind of adjust these Venetian blinders. Stay have an optimal amount of incoming information from the outside world strikes me as a very tricky balance I love with the story of Bill Gates taking to one week reading retreats every year and I understand. He's done this for many years. Is that right. Yeah look looking. It's easier to retreat in a cabin in the woods. And just you know. Read about things when you're a billionaire and you have you know very few direct reports. But I've been lucky enough through so my works works to meet new sort of different billionaires very high-ranking government officials are CEO's you realize like they don't do anything during the day that's not what that role is it is for the most part is CEO is like just making a handful of hard decisions each day and charting the long distance course of the company I think even for creatives. It's like if you're just always like let's say you're a comedian yourself performing all the time you're not gonna be engaging in the normal experiences of life the fuel the material just yesterday I was working on something and then I had to go somewhere so I had to go take a shower and I solved the problem that I've been wrestling with all morning in the shower hour and I got to run back to my computer. Jot Down those notes and come back to it later. So if you're always doing always doing doing doing you feel like you're making progress progress and perhaps you are making incremental progress but often the sort of big breakthroughs. The jagged leaps forward. Come from taking your foot off for gas a little bit you make a compelling case that stillness leads to happiness or increases our happiness is that part of the competitive advantage why. I don't no no if it's a competitive advantage or it's just its own advantage when I think about the best moments in my life. I wasn't like I'm so busy. This is wonderful. You know it was does sitting on a porch Schwinn where it was driving in the car with someone or it was taking a walk or it was just hanging out the moments where we feel happiness happiness. We are almost always still in some way so I think a life requires both accomplishments and sort of those moments of peaceful stillness as well a a friend of mine. Did this study a few years ago. And he looked at hundreds and hundreds of millions of social media posts in blog posts and things and found that young people tend to when they you say things like. I'm happy because or you know I feel so good because what comes after that almost invariably with some form of accomplishment right. I got a promotion. I feel great or you know I feel so happy. I have a thousand dollars and then on the other hand as people age it tends to shift towards contentment contentment. And so it's like I feel happy with my grandchildren. I feel happy. I'm in my favorite park things like that. And so that struck me as being true in my experience and and so I think those moments of contentment usually come from a place of stillness havoc toxic thinking Ryan you write about how toxic thinking gets in the way of stillness. Yeah I mean there's a lot of people myself. Included are pickup thought patterns from childhood that you know it doesn't matter if you are in a beautiful cabin in the woods you're not going to be thinking how beautiful this is you're gonNA think about. I can't believe I'm playing Hooky from work. You know I'm an imposter I'm gonNA fall behind or you're thinking. I got a post pictures of this on instagram. So people know how smart and creative Iam for doing this. We get caught in these patterns. Usually that we pick up quite early early in a psychologist called this. This sort of inner child and I think a lot of us have even though we are adults even though we have businesses or cars or positions of influence influence. We are sometimes not who we seem to the outside world because actually were seven and a half or were you know the eleven near olders parents sat them down and said they were getting a divorce or whatever it is we just got. We've got this sort of inner child runamuck you know. I have a quote from Fred Rogers. He's like the child is is in me still and sometimes not so still and I think that's a wonderful way to put it because I think a lot of the reason. We don't have still misses because of that. So let's talk about how this makes us more effective. I read recently that the mindfulness business is now generating a billion dollars in revenue largely from all these APPs which I enjoy joy thousand. Mindfulness APPs I only use one sure clearly there are a lot of people for whom this is delivering a competitive advantage or certainly at minimum the perception of a competitive admixture. Sure why is that. Why now this is what you're saying earlier? which is that? We feel busier and more overwhelmed than ever before. But I think people use to have ritual and routine built into their life and for thousands of years. That was what we did right. People had sacrifices or they they saw priests or they went to church or were you know they prayed before bed and so there used to be kind of a frost through which we slow down which we had some quiet time with herself herself which we were reflective which. We saw big picture where we were connected to something much bigger than ourselves and obviously the breakthroughs of science and liberal humanism from these have been massive. You know sort of breakthroughs in value ads for society but they have had the unintended consequences. Sort of knocking down some of those old things and I think what we're we're turning back towards is some of the slightly more secular but nevertheless ancient and tried and tested strategies is for inner peace and tranquility and and so I think people are realizing like Oh. It's very hard to be good at what I'm doing and be doing ten other things at the same time right. It's very hard for me to focus on this multi year project. I'm working on as I'm getting. E mails every minute from other people asking me how it's going or or you you know. I'm seeing news alerts about what other people are doing. And so I think we're realizing Oh we need some framework for how we navigate. This and it happens opens that this was already discovered quite some time ago. So Ryan holiday argues that to make effective decisions. You need to be still as a rock in the middle of raging river. You need to conquer your impulses and be guided by your values. You need to get to know yourself now. All that sounds pretty mystical. How how do you actually do it? The next big idea is supported by Mac Weldon. Mac Weldon is a premium. Men's essentials brand essentials like underwear socks shirts undershirts hoodies sweatpants and more at macworld in their mission is simple to make sure all your basics or smartly designed and the shopping for them is easy and convenient a couple of years ago. 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The ryen holiday has told us why we need needs stillness in our lives. But how do we get there in. Stillness is the key. He argues that. There's no one way. He gives us loads of examples of people taking different approaches based Jason Their personal or historical circumstances he offers no clever acronyms. Are nifty tricks. Just a few basic principles that you can apply to your life as you see fit. So let's talk about the nuts and bolts of what we can do practically speaking to bring more stillness into our lives. Yeah I could probably just this kind of walk you through my morning so this morning I woke up about six twenty six twenty. I got five month old so he woke up and so you know we spend spend time playing on the floor while everyone else slapped and then my other son will up and so I took them for a walk. We went on a long walk on a dirt road near our house and we just sort of outside ride. We watched the sun come up. I didn't bring my phone. I don't use my phone in the mornings. My thing is i. Don't use it for at least an hour after I'm awake but often it's as much as two or three three hours and then I came home. The first thing I did is I went. I went into my study and I sat down with some journals and just sort of wrote. There's no outcome Expected it's just some sort of quiet time with your own thoughts but putting on paper is important because you if to concretize critized them you have some physical distance from them and when you think of what stoicism is the vast majority of it is letter writing and journaling and so what survives survives to us is not so much the anthologies or the multi volume sets on this topic or another. It's a private thoughts of these interesting trusting people who were wrestling with the same ideas that you and I are talking about so after the journaling was done. That's why I went straight into the the writing that I had to do for the day and so I I liked noon. I was more or less done with what I really had to do for the day and then let the rest of the day I try to get up early. Try to win the morning. I try to slow. Oh things down trying to make sure that not reacting and that I'm not starting the day on my back foot and that I I'm doing the importance of creative deport stuff off as early as possible and I find that to be a recipe for both creative success and I think serve personal happiness and then you know frees me up. This this afternoon I went for Ryan. Had an idea came back and work on that a little bit. You know there's other that's not the only worker doing but I I try to front load as as much as possible. You talk about changing our behavior to create the space for stealing our minds. What do you think for? Most people is the hardest change to make. I'd say for me. A big one is saying no. I got these two speaking requests in my inbox. I was just looking at before I came here. And they're you know they're co opportunity. It seems like it'd be cool but it's not paid and I don't really want to do it and I got a busy month and I don't WanNa be you know this person's a friend of a friend and I don't want to say no. Oh I think we're bad. At judging opportunity costs we say maybe or I guess when really we deep down we WANNA say no. But we don't want to be a bad guy so I think the big behavior is just you know one of my favorite questions remarks really says everything. You're considering ask yourself. Is this necessary. And if you can eliminate the things things that are not necessarily you'll have more tranquillity and you'll do more better and that's something I'd I'm constantly struggling with and I haven't written about it. I hear from lots of people were is doing more than we should be or more than we need to be. And this is a kind of a hidden cost all of our work as well as all of our happiness. Because we're just so massively over extended and this is what creates burn out and it creates resentment and it creates sub optimal performance. You say in the Book Doc. That connection is necessary. Lobs connection typically involve other people and other people are a big part of distraction. How do we include other people in our journey towards awards stillness? Yeah sure sure relationships they have a cost but with the still would say is so you know you don't take the work with you when you die right. Oh you don't take the money with you when you die. The work doesn't hug you at night. It doesn't reassure you when you're when you're scared you know it doesn't run down the hall shouting Daddy Daddy. I think a life where one dedicates themselves exclusively to accomplishment is ultimately pretty empty. You say in the Book You Journal to wage peace with yourself which I thought was really nice. Turn of phrase is the instruction or the desire to reflect on the day they were the recent past and reflect on how you can do it better or what you aspire to what. What's the sort of formula a little bit of all those things? He's a a couple of different journals as a bullet journal where riff I use. Journal called one line a day and you just read one sentence per day. I usually just write one sentence about the day just passed passed. I like even journals. Have crump's or guided questions. I think that can be pretty helpful as well. And how about meditation and breathing rituals trolls. Is that a regular part of your day or something you recommend. I wish I could say that it was more regular part of my dates. Tend to not be how I operate. Identifying walking to be more meditative exercise to be more meditative. I do try to take some time where I just sorta sit and do nothing. But the meditation hasn't really really done it for me. So one of the sort of premises of the book is that there is not some magical thing. If you just do this one thing. You'll have stillness. I think it's it's more complicated than that. And so I think it's something you attack from. A variety of angles does your decision to embrace the a stoic philosophy and write this wonderful succession of books. Is this partly a process of reconciled with or complicating your own ambition. Shen hunger and unst illness I think so I mean I heard a quote from Lyndon Johnson once where he was saying. He's like if you had this animal instincts but he kept it on a leash. I think there's a part of that in me like I can see and I have experienced periods. Where where you sort of give yourself over to that? And it has some short term career advantages. But it's just not it's not the right way to live in my opinion. I think where I've tried to get where I think I've gotten closer to as I've gotten older older as I've written these books and sort of done this study and all these practices is trying to get to a place where I am still doing. But I'm doing it out of a place of the fullness out of a place of craving I wrote it because I believed in it was meaningful and I wanted the experience of it to be enjoyable but also challenging John J of course. I wanted it to do well but I wanted to do it from a place where I didn't need it to do well. We're none of my identity was tied up in doing. Yeah well I wanted my ambition to be directed at the parts of it I controlled which is the the writing and the title and the cover and the the work that I put into it where it ultimately lands on the bestseller lists or how many copies it sells or how quickly it earns out. There's an ambitious part of me. That in the past would have sort of maybe looked more to those things. I would sort of withheld judgement until those numbers came in. And I think what the stokes would say is that that is kind of a recipe fever insanity or it's setting oneself up to be disappointed because you're handing over your happiness or your ambition to other people are random random good luck or bad luck but are there times to release the wild animal. I love this NICCI quote. Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music sure it feels like the stocks were highly intent on not hearing the music. There's a CICERO quote. I I love about Danny. He says no one Dances who is sober. Unless they're a lunatic. But I I don't know maybe there's some benefit of craving that would work if you're you suddenly found yourself bankrupt in your coming back from nothing or if you know the fate of the world rested on your shoulders if you you couldn't accomplish some massive feat of of endurance. I I don't know but I guess I don't know when I look at the great moments of history the ones that put chills down my spine that inspire me whether it's the missile crisis for it. Sean Green I think what tends to unite them together is that they weren't coming from a place of craving or craziness they were coming from a place of sort of not even place of restraint. They were just coming from a place of just from a a better place and I think my books are about trying to get there. Sure and I'm trying to get there in my own life. Well Ryan Holiday. Thank you so much for coming on the next big idea podcast. That was super interesting and I think really helpful for listeners. Yes well that's great to hear. Yeah thanks for having me before four weeks ago. I wanted to let you know the today's podcast is the last episode in our first season sixteen episodes. I can't believe it. We've learned a lot right and frankly it's been a blast if you've made it this far. 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FTP119: Bonnitta Roy - Ego & Group Practices

Future Thinkers Podcast

56:38 min | 4 months ago

FTP119: Bonnitta Roy - Ego & Group Practices

"Hey guys welcome back. Our guest today is Benita Roy. She's an author philosopher and teacher WHO's focusing on building greater capacities for human sense making. She has a wealth of experience working with groups and in her work. She integrates cognitive science phenomenology and she gone with emergent themes and transformative education leadership self organization in complexity science in part one of our interview. We talk about group processes deconstructing the EGO and shadow work group settings. You'll find all the links and show notes for this episode at future thinkers dot org slash one hundred eighteen now. Let's dive into the interview. Hey this future thinkers where we talk about how to adapt to a changing world build more resilience upgrade culture and society and create meaning and purpose with your hosts. Mike it'll end Elva so Benita. Welcome thanks for joining us. This is we've been watching a lot of your content lately so we're excited to be talking today. Yeah congratulations I feel like I'm a little bit part of your family now. Yeah yeah we were just talking before we started. We don't know what to do with with our kids. When we do these podcasts episodes. We've got nowhere to put them. So if you hear some squawking in this episode then it's not. It's the baby always me. Yes so yeah. There is an example. So my first question for you is. How do you deal with the tendency of groups to get trapped in this never ending cycle of creation and deconstruction of personal and interpersonal problems? So I don't go there directly one of the things that I've noticed it depends like what situations I already created a scenario in my head. So it's different if I know that. Sometimes you guys actually have courses. That's different than if you're doing group process right because when you have a course you become more of I have knowledge on going to give you some Suggestions whereas when you truly joint bid process you're inside culture itself and so everything you say is up for deconstruction by the group right. So so the scenario. I'm getting answer in his. When you're actually trying to be participate in the group process itself and one of the things is I tend to. I don't think you should go there directly. I don't think you should point out that. Someone's Egos talking or point out this. I've always had this problem with the traditions because they keep yelling at the ego and every time you talk to the EGO. You're actually rarefied yet. So a lot of group process has to do with performance. We're always trying to avoid performance contradiction. You know so. For example. We don't want to England obviously to yell at any girl but we also don't want to ratify the EGO by confronting and the question. The question is who are you talking to? Who Are you act what? Who Are you speaking with? When you're when you're goal is to maybe dissolve some of the round resolve that the ego structure. And what are the kind of moves that you can do where You know g move where you are actually working with the forces that dissolve the Eagle itself like the EGO is a stable construction under certain conditions. And it's not a stable structure under other conditions and you're actually just trying to cultivate conditions in which the EGO is not as able structure and or what other types of south can someone anger themselves in but if you directly go to deconstructing the ego and then you can do that But I think you'll find that it can be very frustrating and yeah so. That's kind of a meadow view. You can make more particle question out of that. Actually my question would be. Do you have any direct tips for kind of bypassing the ego win it comes up Or or bringing it to someone's attention suffers to have imagine. What am I speaking with? I see the the ego as energy arising and then I say what am I speaking with? If there's no ego than what is is not a structure like what is arising that. I'm trying to dance with And I tried to really visualize in that so much of you know image but talk to enter in to the felt sense that there is something beyond or beneath something else. That's happening in this dance so I'm not even going there. It's like it's like a whole approach. The Eagle comes to be sliding context. It's like it's like yes. I address that like sometimes. There's a hundred different ways your responses than become spontaneous. But like one time I was teaching in something. This one man was quite aggressive. This young guy and then he just starts downloading the all. This stuff is coming at you know instead of getting addressing what he was saying. I was just like wow. That's a lot of energy and I just kind of sat back. I don't even know what he said I was like. Wow that energy really had come up so when he was finished Do you feel better now an inept. I thought it was a joke question but really and then he reflected. He's like yeah. I feel better now. You see I didn't. It wasn't like I even I wasn't bothered with what the construction the EGO was making us trying to figure out like. Where's that coming from? What what function is it serving in the organism? A you know and and Working trying to work at that level And actually what came out of those? He you know he reflected he said yeah and then a little while later we had a break and he came back and he said. I know why that happens. You see so. Every people have reflexive aspect organism will be self reflective but under certain conditions you create more potential for that and other other conditions. You're actually Raya finding the very structures You're trying to dissolve. And you know this is really tricky work but I know that you guys have a lot of experience and you can perhaps play around. We've got MU. That's that's one example My own journey a have to admit Was helped by training horses because when you train horses a lot of energy a lot of what can look like aggression or this or that you know you you you start when you're young training you ask. Why is that Horse Mad at me? Or why are they stubborn? Or why this and then you realized they don't have a story this just kind of a dance of energy and sometimes the energies and up in sometimes it's confused or sometimes it's free flowing and so even by the time. I started Trading stallions you know really you see all this energy coming at you and it's just energy you know in your cell because I will. People will project an ego structure and story on onto horses. And then they resort abusive techniques because they're fighting with a structure. That's not fair. That's not in the horses experience but I did A. I DID A horse workshop. Once with a group of people who then some of them went right into group process and this one woman was having a difficult time in her new boyfriend happens to be very. They're very disruptive she was having a very difficult time and then on the second day she was like. Wow they're just horses and she didn't need it to dehumanize people she was using what she had learned and so like even this notion of the Eagle has to be distraught can deconstruct. The these are stories that are eagles make meaning out of other people out of the energy of tensions to actually caught in. Recombinant recombination recumbent. Ego is stop you know. So That's how I've avoided I've I've tried not to even if I don't see. See the Eagle in. Yeah I see the energy I can. Talented structure can feel that it's contraction. But I try not to speak to it or speak about it because tends to ratify that. It's real you know. Now that's different than when I naturally doing courses on The I ne- mind complex when it's online how's IT PRE constituted phenomenologically. Then we talk about it as a holistic system and then so then. We're actually talking about how it's constructed how it arises naturally. How you know how we can talk about this. Maybe in very early childhood experience how these primary schemers primitive Egos and you know we can talk about it in a kind of instruction to instructive way but in group process I try not to shine a light on it either. Positively or negatively. I just don't talk to and I sit back and I try to say what's arising here. Energetically felt sense or I don't even try to. Psychology is it. Oh the eagles wounded or you know I because that's also a little bit. It's more subtle but I try to kind of dance with the Energy. And visualize a spacious nece or a state out where those energies are pleasant and in let myself speak from their whatever comes out or maybe sometimes nothing comes out a. Lotta Times surprising. Wow where did that come true? Even that's an appropriate response. 'cause you just surprise your genuinely surprised you know like there's a spike in energy. Oh my God you know. And then Yeah and kind of taking it from there. So one thing. I noticed at the beginning of the story. That you're telling about the guy who just downloaded all of that energy onto you Was the way you addressed. It seemed to be first of all. You seem to have a knowledge of where it was coming from and that it wasn't about the content of what he was talking about. It was more of the emotional center and then it seemed like you only address the emotional part and that stood out to me is is a good technique. Even though he didn't explicitly stated. Yeah so here. I want to be a little pedantic and make a distinction. We make it my courses and that is the difference between affect which is what the body's doing and emotion and emotion is a story on top of what the body's doing so with this distinction semantic distinction. I wasn't paying attention to his emotion. I noticed that the body was doing something different. I mean his literally physically outside inside and there was kind of a spike in in energy happening and Yeah so one of the things we did when he came back and he said. I think I know why that happened in. We have been working together for a while. He 'cause I imported that story about what she was saying and I was mad at the story. He you know he let some energy. That was like a little difficult. The woman did have some kind of emotional energy and he made a big story The story was like I gave her. I gave her more space than he fought I should have because she was kind of. I knew what she was kind of saying was new agey so he had the story that I was being a favourite to him. Knocked her out what he was fighting with. Nothing in the wrong. He was fighting with the story. That was imported. See his body got him comfortable. And what the mind does is. It serves Reasons for why you might become so all right. It's evolved to say you know is it? This is at and a Lotta Times. Those reasons are just these stories so in storied and so then he started fighting with the with the story instead of just paying attention to what the body was doing and processing that so when I say affects is they're just like everything else they come and they go and they take time they take right there like the like the breast in the heartbeat and if he had stayed at that level it would have just been a rhythm in the space but he jumped the miners up a story. He didn't notice he got into the story really fast. And then then you have more than just the affect. You have kind of a vicious cycle between the story that then then then then turns up the Unpleasant tree in the body so that Stab we we tried to We tried to Do exercises in my course to try to get closer to the Tago when the when the feeling in your body toggles into a story so you get better at better noticing just before that happens you can deal with it at its origin and that's an exercise that people get very very good at a done it and then some people be like. Wow there's proto thoughts I can tell even before it's thought the quality of the The sensation starts to get a little like a little bit like indigestion in. I know that that's GonNa turn into our thoughts so I swallow it then at this really you know you can get really good at this and so you see everything. I'm talking about deconstruct the EGO. But none of the practices talk about the EGO. They just say this is what happens. Can we noticed that you know these are the conditions under which the structures are dissolved? Come you know one thing. I'm noticing a lot in group practices and it happened quite a bit earlier on last year. And we've we've kind of accepted the conversation from that point and I don't think we've really brought it up but there's this question of of when am I done processing my trauma and especially in that group setting like when is it time to put that to bed if that's even necessary and then go out there in the world and do something so this is a really good question and it So get us. Some of the language from rea- Back System. You know she says that there's there's socal of presence where you're learning how to be present with each other to not have so many triggers not have your ego involved not you know all these biases and all these these inadequate ways of discourse conversation. That's a circle of presence. How can we just be five people in a room and start from square one? You know there is no square one. We all have all this baggage and all these reforms ideas all his condition but basically she calls it. The Circle of presence in. We can argue. There is some argument That this is actually a skill at were reclaiming from our past that. We actually used to know how to do this. It's hypothetical but you do see that. A lot of them are employing skills like ritual and some of these older structures to make this happen so understanding that. There's that at one face. And then she says the purpose of circle of presence is to be able to create a circle of creation where you are coming which is what. I call insight practice where the group is coming up with insights in awareness and orientations perspectives. That were not held by anyone in that space before And so your question is when do we went is our have we done enough in. I as to get to the second phase now I think that some people I don't think you have to do the first phase one hundred percent. I think that some people have this idea of people becoming you know one hundred percent clean and then we can get onto things. I think. That's that's really a mistake and the other reason why it's mistake is because If you're spending too much time investigating your psyche as a group that psyche will invent new territory as you explore. It's an infinite game Is What does psyche does so So you know I know. People who do internal family systems. And they're like you know and then the parts create parts in themselves in the. They're they're mapping out this territory of and so that's what the psychic does the psyche is like a fission reactor. It creates early early. On in the child's life it creates primary Schema and then internal working models then the eagles structure and this is what I e does so It can be an endless endlessly cursive so So I think that there is a real phenomenon happening in some of these circles with were especially in the west week over psychologists stuff so where that's happening it's the same with when a circle gets like a you projecting or am I interacting or. Is that real you know? And and those kinds of conversations are crazy they're crazy to try to analyze because when the psyche of You transfer is a counter transference. You hear all this nonsense okay So to take a strong stand on that. Those are not Those are not Beneficial performance says to do in group space. I think is is important. And so then the question is what are we. What are we envisioning as the fruition of this first phase And there's comes apart Comes appoint any groups life where you just say what if we put this to a question a real question or a real test or action in the world that both ups the ante but also will give you some sense if that that groups groups going to move I think that I think being very clear. What is what is the goal. What is the fruition of the first phase? What would that look like? What is the minimum adequacy? You need And the other thing is I think that a few you can take a few people who have very good skills and bring them into group where people don't and as long as they're not exponentially exaggerating those skills they can increase the capacity so you can move for example yourselves into a group of experts. We don't really have dialogical skills but you can make a place for them in terms of their expertise and still have A productive session. That's in this case productive. Means you solve the problem or moved up quite inquiry long not song. Everybody's trauma in one of your other interviews. You talked about sort of the three stages of development and I'm not sure what which model is's but you talked about the first stage as people project everything outwards like the problem is outside out there. It's you know other people's crowd are I have to fix something in the world? I have to save people. It's all externally focused. Then something happens on the knee realize. Oh actually all of this stuff is a projection of internal state and so then they start focusing on fixing their internal state than doing healing and constant nasal getting navel-gazing and then the third stage is that they realize. Oh actually none of this is about me at all. And I'm completely inconsequential in this. I'm more of an instrument of something larger. I really love that framework. It's very simple but it really illustrates something quite well. Yeah and so the people that spend too much time. You know trying to heal their trauma. They it's kind of narcissism you start to see there's a kind of narcissism right now the whole point in the world is evolved so that you can heal your drama also want to say something about trauma and that is Which I every year I had with my new cards. We have to make the distinction. You know there's existential reality about about being human and not all of that. Existential pain is trauma. It you know we have to be able to separate what is trauma from you know you. Have you have to individually from your parents as very painful and it leaves memories and it has archetypes or has primary Schema and it's a process you have to go through but that's not trauma. I mean people like hold onto like I've been through. I felt through primary school. I've been through a break up with my boyfriend like they just hold onto this like like you know. Now they're Israel trauma the Israel trauma and the thing is there are fabulous stories of people who've been through awful trauma and they shine they shine as people and so this is kind of like when you're moving from the second phase to the third you realize you've made the whole thing about you. You know so yes. It feels great when you go into the Sonogram and you realize if I myself than my actual reality changes but then you get mesmerized. We've got an and you start to think like that's that that whole that whole thing is about you that your whole spiritual growth is about satisfying. You are getting cracking the code. I call it cracking the code. So that now you're happy and Jerry Field people move out of that. I find I have never been in a group. That's been able to successfully move into the circle of creation which I called collective insight practice which is why I don't do group process because of waiting to to collective insight practice and I can in my students I hear there between some of our between the second one in the third and you can hear people say they used to use phrases like it's not about me on my instrument or spirit is working through me. You start saying that. There's something that's coming through there. It's not something they have to do. And you start seeing. It's not like work I have to do on myself it's Work is being asked of me. You know and of course people with severe trauma shadows. That could be ugly. But in many cases People are coming are moving through that second phase and realizing they're not finished but it doesn't have to be achieved you know. It was on Joe. Brewer was on your. Your movie talked about this on your interview. But he talked about the difference between achievement. Problems in practice problems. You know your psyche isn't something to be achieved. It changed the perfect psyche. It's something to be continuously practiced through the Abbot question. Feel we might as well go there like what is the purpose. What is what is why. Are we all so excited about group process at this time in history? What is the purpose? What are we seeing as the benefits? what other or one of the claims we are making you know. This is a question that I had when I first started. In two thousand twelve the claim was at this was happening in these groups group processes you know people are making claims of group in fighting and all these things in an. I started participating in them and I didn't actually see that they were achieving claims that they were making. And so. That's maybe an interesting question to make a bummer. But well yeah I think I mean. We don't claim a whole lot. Aside from the just being there is a community in there are people who are talking about the set of subjects in doing these set of practices. And maybe you might be interested in doing it. It's not like we're advertising enlightenment or something in in the courses or the group the groups although I think some of the work relates to that question and we've especially been discussing a lot of the jet McKenna Books About Spiritual Enlightenment in the calls which I think is interesting. But it's irrelevant really. It's the community is kind of the sales focused right. Come in me like minded people that kind of thing but there is transformational experiences that individuals are going through. I would say within the groups that are just a matter of doing the work and doing the processes and it's a lot. It's a hell of a lot more individual work then group process work. I mean group. The group seems to just be like okay. You're not insane. I mean you're you're you seem to be on the right track and it's more of a confirmation of what most people seem to intuitively already understand when they're doing the work that's really it. Yeah Ellen show the other part of your question. Why is there sort of society? Wise there is so much addressed in group practice and I don't know what the case is other people and I don't want us you that the same to me. It seems that People are realizing that the sort of individualistic approach. That was really popular in the previous decades. That there is something incomplete about it that we need to earn relearn to relate to each other and actually it seems to me that a lot of these group practices are not inventing anything new there. Just rediscovering what people used to know. How To do intuitively before? Yeah and the and the questions are more sophisticated like the questions we have about ourselves or more sophisticated but the way the group can haul that is is is probably evolutionary old. An embedded in human system Yeah I like to look at these phases of group or community practice as asynchronous transformation of the individual. So it's a synchronous transformation. But every but it's coursing through everybody right so If you if you bleed out the time you could conceivably experience as a simultaneous transformation but it seems to I have a synchronous kind of a rhythm to it and I think that's very helpful for people because if you say you know it's a transformational circle But it has this a synchronous rhythm than people will still feel inside the circle and notice that there's different spotlights of transformation little insights happening here and there that don't necessarily land with everyone but if everyone was participating than that's off like when have shined so I think that's a claim that this were can make the brand new future thinkers members portal is now alive develop your sovereignty and self with our in depth courses get access to our weekly since making calls joined the QNA's with past podcast guests and much more become a future thinkers member today at future thinkers at org slash members. I've never really heard anyone talk specifically about the role of shadow work in group format. It seems to be and I mean the experience that we have with it is. It does seem to be quite heavily individualistic. But there's something to circling that seems to especially as people are watching something arise in each other and in themselves. It seems to point that they're a shadow material but as far as the practice of doing shadow work is that does that have a place in group group dynamic so I'm just gonNA answer by Talking about how Perhaps address shadow work. You know one of the problems with some of these practices is they. They become Like the whole notion of shadow work is already loaded. You know so then at an so what I talk about is I like to look at So when I come into group space one of the things that I think is important is to de emphasize the The individual and look at it more in terms of the group is constantly shaping itself and shaping each other right because this is kind of where we want people to understand and so like when you enter a group space. So I'll talk about it like this when you enter public space immediately. You're going to adopt certain persona. That's when we're going to. It's going to shape. You need it league like When we call people call a collective insight retreat here just calling. It is already shaping. The people it's ringing questions and so the thing is working itself and this is again like it's not about me only about me. It's how do I respond to the process that's underway. How's the process asking me to respond? Oh carry so instead of saying you have shown you have to work on something. Which again puts a spotlight on the carthy unit of inquiry the Unit and inquiries grew and in this present moment. And so what I will say. You know what we'll talk about is how Again I I spend a lot of time talking about how in early childhood you have a me before you have an I and the me is the way your parents look at you. You realize that you're an object for their perception and that what you do without me changes your relationship to that to your caregivers a little later on you realize the me that your father sees us all gendered. Stereotypes is different than my main. Your mother sees and you start to make primary scheme was about gendered roles in the me is online and this becomes the social me. You know so when we're in social space. We're always trying to pick from our little box of tools. The object that's going to in the public sphere so the way I work with that is in if I'm facilitating a novice group. I'll say all be sitting around people with a saying something and then I'll say you noticed a lot of stuff going on your minds is like all the stuff going on your minds and then you have a gatekeeper. That would never say that like there's a whole lot going on the other. There's the gatekeeper. Like what does that gatekeeper. What is its function you know? Let's look at the gatekeeper. And you know our people be quiet and tease them. Like all you people Reich. I know there's a lot going on there you know and So we noticed that there's a whole lot going on the doesn't make it out into public space so we look at that and then So we don't say you have to expose it or anything but you're looking at how what's under the hood here and we all have it you know. And so Yeah so what's what's what's not making. It has something to do with shadow right now. Some people might put it in that frame. So what would not? But I don't really I try to be much more human about it like I say I'll say something. Why not just kicking from different experiences? Something like people were in a pickle because you come to these groups and you want to be seen. I mean everybody really wants to be seen but everybody is terrified to be seen so we hide so we put each other. And that goes 'cause like on that you can't see me on my mother or my partner but I actually get keep who I am. And so how is it possible for me to be seen so we just all stacked talk about like what what how this thing functions? And it's okay. It's okay how it functions we just need to become aware of how the functions and yeah so. That's kind of you know I. I have a different way of languaging different way of working in in spaces than some other Techniques out there it seems your responses. Come from this very embodied like you're you're not looking at anything theoretically almost with my question. It's almost a very theoretical question. That doesn't play out in the way that I framed the question. Yeah it's it's interesting. I know people who are really coaches. They've been through like landmark or Avatar. There's these programs and they work a lot with shadow and then I've worked with them in They come to the point. Where is very sophisticated right? This very high level where they realize I help them realize their shadow is just a structure. You may so we're like we make a structure the concept of shadow and then we spend it all lives trying to get rid of it and I say why making up in the first place. Why take me all about release complexity? Why take that first step? And that's where I think leverages like so you have all these people going around in these groups talking about shadow Sha that it's the it's the actual step that is in the way I want to take that step. It's interesting. How much pain is built up around the structure of of having a past trauma to work through whereas just looking at it without judgment often can just be enough. Yeah it is interesting. How much people build up these structures in their mind before they're able to actually tackle them or whatever you WANNA call it. Construct them exactly so that comes up in space out say if. I'm being really playful shadow shadow. Where is it like is it like where is it but or I'll say if you didn't have the concept of shadow? What would you be experiencing now good question well and then I'll has? That's what you're actually experiencing. Everything else is a thought and is it helpful or is it not helpful to me. That's off the work is literally. It's not easy but that's all it is. Everything else is a hybrid complex vacation of professional skills that sells the price of the ticket. So there that's what I really as a community you know we have to because in. This is to aunt my answer to wise hydro buses because it also has proliferated in an an economic system where complexity in hybrid complexity and the illusion of the priestly professional class to do some direct work on yourself is part of what creates the dummy hand in the interest. And so now. I'm not saying people do this. Consciously this is audited but we need people that can release the complexity and do this level of facilitation. It doesn't mean people. Go ahead yeah. Of course it's still hard but you don't want you WanNa be V it's like you. WanNa be a surgeon the laser you don't WanNa be a surgeon in the confederate army. Where would they would take a a saw? Incorr- off your leg. We we want this technology to be like laser surgery and we need people ball to really understand what works in these spaces and what just increases the complexity infinite complexity of the human condition. I really really glad you were at the south. Because yeah this idea that you can get rid of the or should get rid of the AGO or the shadow is so preposterous to me. Because they are structures you could say evolutionary structures that have a function and they do something and by trying to remove them. Exactly like trying. To sever your limb. It's it's even if it is possible. It's not useful or healthy so it seems to me that just allowing it in observing Accepting it is a much healthier route and you know if you if you have an infection in the hand you just look at it and you deal with the infection rather than chopping off the whole hands. You know that that does bring up something that I'm just noticing now about maybe a incoherence and definitions that we're using like when I hear you talk about what I would term ego deconstruction. Aligns with my idea about it but I. I think I'm using a term that is not clicking with you like you something about the ego deconstruction thing and I think you've is well. It's not really working for you. So what would you call it like this deconstruction of frameworks that make up your identity? That aren't necessarily true. Just like we would say. That's the shadow. What's the term if we're not gonNA use the EGO deconstruction? Maybe I can answer it in in. My case is just observing that something is a structure because that in a way kind of makes it less sticky when when you can quiet the mind enough and just observe that. It's doing something like Oh you know it's engaging in this process are it's like I have this feeling in the triggers. This thought. Oh interesting just observing that Kinda makes less makes less have A. How would I describe it? Have less of a a looping function. Yeah so I think that's a good refunding because we you know we can go off in all directions so I will you know what I guess. I'm pushing back against is problem ties in Ego. I think that's a little bit of what are you saying But I would say that it's important to understand What do we mean by ego what what is like what's undergo heart and there's egoism ego and So so for example we talk. I can talk about primary affect so primate affect my body is. What's what's what you know. My heart goes up or goes down with neurochemical superman. What my hormones are doing What my blood pressure is doing. My program -CEPTION my dizzy. You know like this is days. Some of my muscles are contracted summer expanded. So there's something my body's doing and this is not ego it's free. Egon work potentials of basically inferior Mammalian self. Okay so I can put that aside. That's not what I mean by Ego. And then salt we call those ethics and then there's the perceptual system. You know not which is just your What you see here taste smell. Your Body. Sensations your appropriate option this again. His Carnegie or Mammalian Animal human-animal Nature. That's not ego. So then what is ego right? What is what then. If those those are pre ago Dan what is ego and so to me. It's always seems like the storyteller that builds an identity in attempts to explain. Those things is story this is why Suzanne Cooke grinders work. Everybody that is researching Eagle developing. They has questions their sentence completion tests. Because it's the kind of story will tell so I don't show what I teach is to notice how when the story that mind serves a story. You know something's your babies crying we get a little narrow -tated in mind serves up a story. I I remember once being on a plane and this baby in front of me was literally way off the charts. Some people are last with very difficult children and I could tell the parents. She must've been on two years old and I could tell the parents figuring out their program for when she was having tantrums and on talking about Livid screaming like for twenty thirty minutes and I watch myself go from tolls frigging parents. What they're bad parents. Why don't they do something about it to like? Oh my gods child isn't so much fainter like that stupid child. I would Muslim later. Something and the and I could see these stories. Just come up one after another. You know kind of you know trying to give me some explanation or trying to suggest something I could do. And then once. I realized that I was just watching them. Come up and come up and then slowly. My body wasn't irritated. It was just noise like I was kind of like. Oh listen to listen to the frequencies or something and then you know. The child calmed down. And I have a feeling that like the something that like. I was like probably got caught until like energizing that energy or something you know and so literally the body just serves up all these even more happy you know the body serves up this story like. Oh maybe you spend more time with him. There is a story right. You have a eighties fish on time with him. And then you get in that story and of course you know that's dry goes the first little thought starts to build this whole story about your happily ever life now and then you go to your friends in that story so then the question becomes like a you know once you start working with historic is a couple of interesting thing happens and you realize that you're tortured by the story with a big part of you. That doesn't wanNA live without one. You feel the mind will not be satisfied whittling while like if I said to someone like I said before. Like if you didn't have the concept of shadow what would your experience be and you realize like well I actually would be disappointed because there's not enough drama and now you know now you start to realize oh well that's the function the story has in your life. It's kind of a drama coal. If you want to live like that like the meanest maybe and you can watch TV or something. But I don't probably problema ties it. We want to understand first of all why the mind serves up stories. Are they Profitable beneficial and then if you notice that he actually liked them then you understand your complicit with that's why you keep generating them because you're actually something is satisfied by having the and so a lot of people are in drama. I mean kids do that. You know when you're irritated with your sister when you're a kid you kinda like how to make a fight and then it becomes a Fi and when you look back on it or at the time you realize you talk about is if you didn't WanNA fight but energetically wanted to get in a fight. That's where he kinda provoked it you know in so you start to see. There's up the sum. Total of human condition is is really fascinating end for us to understand. It is more important for us to fight with some of it it. It's here way it is. That's a great distinction between Deconstruction and just becoming aware. I'm I'm glad you made that distinction because I keep using the term ego deconstruction when it actually should be differentiated between those two. That's helpful. It's more like Eagle understanding. What IS THE EGO. And how you can. You can literally learn how to see how there's composing itself. Oh there. It is composing itself. Oh there's a story you know yeah. It seems to the awareness part of it seems to relate to where the egos actually necessarily he. Don't WanNA deconstruct everything. You want to know where some elements are necessary like. I want my child to behave well in public and not disturb other people and that kind of thing so there's this kind of Ego ick element to that of like. Don't embarrassed me kid which is actually kind of useful to help the KID. Behave properly Yeah okay for. Sometimes I'll just I'll see I'll see this story and look at it and I'll say even in groups face on like I'm just going with it. I just feel tugged and sometimes that gets a Lotta push but then it turns out sometimes pushed back has been helpful to move things forward. You know but if you can slow slow what is happening automatically down so you can see how it works. You have more choice and then you do that for five or six years and eventually what shows up is more helpful than not. Somehow you shaved the way it works. You don't have to be so vigilant you know. The whole point is not that I can credibly vigilant your whole life. You know. There's something here that have been trying to pinpoint in. It's coming from experience so I don't I don't haven't figured out how to put words to it yet but there's this thing of actually you know it relates to what you said when people enter into a group practice and they want to appear smart they want to figure out where they rank against everyone in the group so they want to project some ideal version of themselves and there's something of that related to a desire to have an outcome be a certain way. I WANNA be perceived a certain way I want this call to work out a certain way you know a lot of it's to do with ranking but there's also just an attachment to results of there in the world which to me seems to be a basis for the egos storyteller thing and I haven't found much of a basis outside of that. It's like that seems to be centerpoint than I thought so. So the ranking is gus structure that your stories take right so We said the EGO has to do with a story but then you can notice that the stories you tend to that there are some basic structures called there said that there's one mother structure money the other structures so you start to seeing that your stories are helpful even the helpful ones whether they're helpful or not their day. Makita structure so ranking is one of the structures. This is this one really big and One of the keys signs to there's basically six different Structures ranking as one the two biggest ones are ranking and belong belonging people have high belonging needs get very nervous when people rank because it seems like other people being excluded enright guards. It's an instinct you walk into a room. Maybe it's just a big conference in year at dinner. You just look around and you sit with someone. Maybe it's not someone who presented but it turns out to be a big Cahuna like you just have an instinct for the alpha or something you know but and that's not a problem. I think these typologies They actually curiously map onto the six. Buddha bodies. So that's kind of interesting when you tank on and so one of the Davies at the end the you know you find like what. You're kind of archetypal pattern news but the Keita's when you're driven by a subtle sense up it's never enough. It's never enough. So people are ranker's even though they achieve all kinds of things they don't think they've achieved anything and it's never enough and so you become you become First of all neurotic but you know you become aggressive and non ethical almost in your pursuit of something. That's not facial belongers. Same Way they have so many friends and it's never enough is never enough you know. They feel like they're worthless and nobody likes them in from the Outside. You like what so? It's not that the typology is bad. It's when it's driving you with a subtle sense that it's never enough. You never let yourself say wow I have a lot of friends and they step by knee or well and a lot with my life and you know I don't really like being on the circuit but I'm chasing this invitation on that invitation really. What's the real reason why? Because I don't think I've done enough. It's never enough so the typology is not a problem but the and then when you get rid of what's driving that it's not enough then usually your life spreads out a different way and you make much you make much more of a garden variety of choices rather than the same choice so the way that works is the. Eagle has stories the stories if you look at them you'll see their structure there there's a predominant structure it's unconsciously driving you to the sense of. There's never enough. So it's kind of neurosis to get the full episode. Go to members dot feature thinkers dot org for five bucks a month. 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 Our Favorite Quarantine Purchases (With Special Guest: YOU!)

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Our Favorite Quarantine Purchases (With Special Guest: YOU!)

"Hi Everyone, welcome back to bat on paper PODCAST. I'm Becker, Freeman at. Atwood and it's just us today. Yes, and we have a fun. Little episode cooked up for you. We are talking all about our favorite purchases from quarantine. We have a special guest in the special guest is our listeners who sent voice memos to tell us their best quarantine purchases? Yes, so this is GonNa Be Really Fun I. Love Hearing. What everyone's favourite purchases were one of my favorite things that happened during quarantine my friend. maxxie started this email thread that was a money diary and she started it with probably like fifteen. Fifteen people some of whom I know some of whom I don't and a everyone would like reply with everything that they bought, and it was just so interesting to see what people were buying also super influenced by a lot of it. I was like Oh. Yeah, I need that random thing this other person. I don't know, but a let funny was so fun so i. I feel like this is kind of are like very many corona virus, money diaries, but only the things that we endorse. Yes, exactly so before we get to it. Should we slow? Yes, leads. Becca what was your this week? So My high hasn't happened. My high is speculative high, and that is that night we are going to a restaurant. WE ARE GOING TO A. A restaurant it has been four months I'm so excited. We're being very safe. Don't worry. We're just going me grace and Alex who lives in our building, and we've seen each other the last few weeks we're going somewhere to eat outside and we will wear masks when we're not eating and drinking, but I am so excited so excited. I was telling back just to. Just to have somebody make us drink. Have someone take the dishes away? These are like this small little things that you don't even like that. We just appreciate so much more that we took for granted before all of this, I feel like for the first two months of quarantine I was very excited about cooking and I was very revved up Abou-. Trying new recipes and being really into meal planning and then I got past that now I'm like what a slug! Yes, exactly I was like getting into like even like the cocktails, and all of that and I still am. I if you can't tell the thing I'm most excited about is to have someone. Fix me a drink I. Don't know what it is. It just like the idea of having a cold cocktail served to me. That I didn't have to like thoughtfully prepare. I'm so excited about all of it the whole experience. Yes, so that is my high. Yeah. What's your high mind? Mind has been so last weekend I pretty much just hold up I set some strong. We were talking about Becca and I were talking about boundaries before this, but I said some strong boundaries for myself I didn't see friends just needed to chill out, and I pretty much just hung out on my patio all weekend. Long I read a couple of bucks. Bucks talk about Lee. Right at the end of the episode is always. I was working on my tomato plants which are looking so good right now. I just relaxed and I just love the way that the space is coming together, and it makes me so happy. Spending time out there I feel like lately. Weekends I just like it's weird because I'm trying. Trying to act like I'm big on vacation even stuck at home a pretty much like swimsuit and cutoffs on and like tons of SPF of course and just live on the patio. I think that maybe some time in the next couple of months over the summer. We're GONNA need to like rent a house. Somewhere I. Look at usually at that, too. I was. Thinking that would be so nice because I was watching on Makita from Glam on diaries, she is up somewhere. I think in like garrison or like somewhere upstate and she was in a pool, drinking a cocktail and I thought that it was a throwback photo because I was just like what are you doing and I realize she's on vacation right now drove up staying at this beautiful Lake bed-and-breakfasts I was. was like that would be so nice to do with like you and Alex. like whoever yeah I feel like? We should just rent a house for a week. Y-, or did you see Raina? From girl's gotta eat. She's been upstate somewhere. Yeah, yeah, I'm very into that idea. Yeah, so in the meantime my highest, just doing my patio which you're welcome to come down and read with me this weekend. Well the problem is that you only have one comfortable seating option? No I do not i. have the the couch, but the other those little like chair. Things are really comfortable. I don't love the turn things. Oh, I, love them, but yeah, the couches. My spot I feel stuck in them. Oh, that's funny. You should put so i. have these like pod shaped chairs? What I like to do is like way. Way In one and put my legs up on the other. Maybe maybe that would be better. Maybe it's just that I'm trying to like. Sit In while I'm socializing, but maybe I was relaxing and I could just sink into it. Yeah, I feel like that chair isn't a great socializing chair but I got ordered some foldable chairs for that but I'm I think it's good for relaxation like it's a good reading seat. So that and then the other rig announcement is I'm doing a second Amazon collection like they shifted some things around so that I can launch mine hopefully in October so I have a lot of work ahead of me, 'cause. We're like I feel like you like you were talking about with composite. How you are on such a crunch time period I now have to design. Design this thing like in a matter of weeks to make it happen, but I so excited. Yeah, fall nightgowns is common. Can't we yeah, so I might be a little stressed like getting it all done, but I think it's worth it. Yeah, yeah, that was like one of my favorite. Are they? GonNa make more this time. Yes, we had a long haul will to. To go over results yesterday and they're like 'cause. The thing is like they don't want to end up with like a million yards of red leopard fabric, because it's such trendy thing. Like what are they going to do with that? So they? They were cautious I mean it's still like sold like several thousand units, but now they understand like a based on all the. The traffic that my blog trove, and like different like metrics Louis have the we probably could have easily doubled or tripled the amount of fabrics by more fabrics this next time, great, yeah, so excited. Good, okay. What about back vacco? What's your low my lowest? It's too hot out. We are in the part of New York summer that sucks. It is super humid and. Sticky and SMELLY and obviously. I. Don't have a car like it's. Driving City so i. feel like the weather is ruining. My walks which have pinned a lot of my sanity to Oh. and I usually go for walks, either in like the late morning or early afternoon during the Workday, so there's not as many people out and about and also helps to like. Break up my workday and reinvigorate me, but that's a hot part of the day. And it's been in the high eighties or low nineties for the past week, and it is just so swampy, and it is really cramping my style. Yeah, so consider this my formal complaint to Mother Nature and like we gotta fix climate change for me. For My Comfort, Becca, Mike Comfort, not the glaciers are melting, not the little personal issue. was. It is supposed to be the hottest summer on record interesting. I haven't been phased by it. It hasn't been that bad for me well. Why don't you go for a walk at two? PM and let me know how you feel that something i WanNa do what what's your low? Minority I was super overwhelmed this week. you know with everything going on the world, a lot of my partnerships and stuff got put on hold, and then everything was back on this week, so I'm adjusting to that plus also adjusting to like things. I used to do a lot before quarantine like shooting with the photographer has alley provos in town, and she drives to Brooklyn to shoot with me, and then we shoot everything outside been safely shooting which honestly is so nice. It's not allowed. It's a high because I hate taking my own picture with the TRIPOD and I hate editing my photos, so it's been so nice to have like is the most luxurious thing to. To receive a dropbox fuller with finished beautiful edited images that I don't. All I have to do is like crop them and upload them to my blog, so that is great, but it just been like adjusting to kind of is not back to normal, but I feel like my workload is back to normal and I. I don't Mosaic Got Lazy. This summer I just got used to a little bit more of relaxed pace, and our back in like the thick of it, but I like that because that means I am making money and I like being busy just for my personality I thrive. I thrive when I'm a little bit stressed, but I also don't love being stressed. Your own personal catch twenty exactly. But it's not a real low I mean it's great. Work is busy and working with Alli has just been a joy because she's so talented and also. I don't have to do that part of my job anymore. I'm glad for you. Yeah, let's have a quick desperation minute before we get into the meat of this episode. So if you're enjoying this podcast, we would love it if you would leave us a review on Apple. podcasts helps us to get discovered, or if you would take a screen shot of your phone, listening to this and shared on your instagram storytelling your friends. How much you're enjoying this podcast. Yes, artist telephoned. Tell your mom tell anyone tell anyone tells stranger yeah! To can do go to the apple store if it's open for you, go onto all those different computers in leave reviews from every single computer. That seems a little high effort. Yes, way effort, and it seems dangerous to so don't do that. Ten Gold Stars to anyone taking that kind of initiative. Yeah, if you have to go the genius bar like do us a solid while you're there. Yeah So, let's get into this, so our best purchases of quarantine. I felt a little. Shame doesn't the right word, but You've clearly done more shopping than me in quarantine. I think I'm on who should be shamed. Okay so the first category we have is sued kitchen. Slash Home Staff. Yes, so, what have you brought to this party? Oh, she's adding things as we speak so the first one is obviously the air fire which we both talked about our air fires quite a bit. making those little Bagel bites every weekend morning is has become something I. Really Look Forward To. It's definitely healthier than ordering a big fat. New, York City Bagel and it's such a treat, and it's warm and Kui and delicious so okay so I have the air fire on mine as well and so when I first got the our fryer a couple months ago will link the one that we have in the show notes so if you're looking for specific one, it's like a small cute on Beca, has it in pink and yellow I copied Becca Rachel Hesitant -til while it I've got a Lotta friends on board with US anyway. So when I first got the Air Fryer I felt like I sold all of my friends on it, but then I was getting the least use out of it, but I feel like I. have now figured it out because, at first I was like I. Need to find like Air Fryer recipes specific things that are made in the airfare and I will say that I did make those air. Fryer key does that I brought downstairs and those word delicious, so I have nothing against an air sp, but I feel like I just needed to like learn how to use it in my day to day life. And I feel like making vegetables, and as my favorite Broccoli especially in my spare, I toss it with olive oil and salt and pepper. It's so easy seven minutes, and it's perfect. Yeah, I do rockaway, which I. Really cuts down on time versus in the oven. Roasting at an is like the same effect. It's really good I've also made Bacon. Oh Yeah I. Put it in at three eighty for like seven minutes depending on the thickness of the Bacon and. Then, you don't have to like. Doesn't splatter. You don't have to clean the Pan. You just like have to clean out the our FRYER and it comes out perfect. That is so smart, yeah, or like, I heat up a lot of leftovers in the air fryer. Yeah I haven't done that yet, but I also like a Weirdo, who eats her leftovers cold. Usually. Oh I, hate cold food anything that is supposed to be hot I will not eat like I. Do not like Cold Pizza. You I let. You know it's also hot outside so I eat a lot of like cold foods while I've heating up leftovers than it has been really good at like makes leftovers so much better. Like heated up pizza, and before I made Turkey meatballs, and he up in the air fire made them like. Chris being like a little different I don't know. Yeah, so I feel like I've I've hit my air stride and if we had recorded this episode of month ago, do not know that the fire would have made the cut for me. But now I'm their. Loved the prior. Okay my other things are bright Lindahl. Do I need that? Yeah, it's really nice. So I actually feel like addict. Because I know Ash, who's the founder and I love her? So ash is hip friend, WHO and HIP as an investor in her company, but ashes also Rachel. WHO's Becca? co-host for Rome combats best friend will. They used to be business partners. They used to have a different business together when they had a PR agency. Guy. So expensive. It's like forty dollars because you've been raving about it. And I went on the site and I was like okay. I'm GONNA do this. I need this and I. especially want the Chili oil because I would eat lava if I could yeah so that good. I got the Chili Oh. My favorite is just the classic, but I love the lemon and the Chili one's pretty good, but it's it's worth the money I think. Think, so use it to cook with I. Have Like it's still a nice olive oil from whole foods to cook with, and then I use this mostly for Salads for sausage is I make homemade salad dressing with it. I D- Rosal it in my Hamas or in my in dips, like I can't wait to have people over again and make Lebanon dip with the royal I literally could not tell you the last time I made. Love Making Depp it's my, it's my favorite thing like the Allison Roman beat dip. A Soga that as good. You've made that for me before. Yeah, I would. When when I was making that I used to like. Fill up a whole bowl and have that plus pita chips for dinner yum yeah. So that all wheel has been great I just. This is a new one which I haven't I haven't actually received 'cause it's been backward for a while, but have you heard of our place? Rachel got the Pan. The PAN is beautiful. It is really beautiful, so I ordered their pan. It's so pretty. I saw it on JC Dupree's sites. She writes Damsel and your. She has amazing taste and I was like I want that, and then they stopped me. With instagram ads for like weeks and I finally just I that actually when I got my that fun box, there was a a code for fifteen percent off so I finally broke down just Bano I am not as tempted by that, but I happen very tempted, and also stalked by the Great Jones. Like Oh, it's like. The alternative to Lakers say yeah, it's really it's really really pretty. The only stopped me is that the Dutch oven is slightly smaller than the standard size. Lakers saying I'm Mike. His big enough. I don't know yeah I. I have crusade stuff so I am I. Recommend that and you don't need to replace that. I don't need to replace it. Let something you buy. You have for like your whole life. Yeah, but yeah. So that's on there. Something I bought before quarantine, but have been using a lot. This is cheating what I didn't know that we could bring things that we got before quarantine. Include this because I've been using it even more. Okay until you know you know all about like little luxuries like I, like my luxury, but I've I have why pretty much every night during Gordon Dean and I know that's probably not great, but I mean just the glass I'm not getting wasted but the Alta wine glasses make it such a little luxury to have my wine in an until I've been having a glass of wine or like an opera spritz most nights in a Mizo. Mizo Nice, the probably best purchase for me of quarantine was doing my patio, which I spent not like a lot a lot of money, but a decent amount I had I bought astroturf rugs for the whole space, so that like really bright ended up and it's nice like I feel like it's okay to walk around barefoot out there. It's your favorite instagram background, not all my God! It's my favorite instagram background then. I got Little couch for their from pottery, barn I got little table on Amazon pink table as being very cute the table, so it's a great low for you. We can link in the show notes, but My whole quest has been like trying to find things that are cute enough that I love them, but also inexpensive enough if it gets stolen, it's okay so like the pottery burn couch is very firmly chained to the gate. The nicer chairs I have our chain so the gate, but the little pink table flits around, so if someone takes it I'd be really sad, but. It's not the end of the world. so that that I installed Privacy Ivy along the whole. Perimeter of my fence, which is really nice, too. Because then I can hang out in my bathing suit, and not feel like I'm on display for the world, and also like if I have people over like, we just have a little more privacy. Nine hung up some really pretty glass lights out there. I got a lot of plants tomatoes sunflowers Transformation, it's been a whole transformation, so that's been really fine for both like. It's Nice, but it also helps my mental health a lot, so that was a big one, and then I'm oh another really great purchase I made was a table. I had one already, but I got this orange one from room and board, and it's just great, because it kind of doubles as a desk I. I've been. More recently, I've been doing my work dining table, but sometimes I wanted to sit on the couch, and it just gives you an extra surface i. like my see table for zooming Oh. Yeah, because it's out there. It's like if I'm sitting on the couch. It's like at the right height, and so it's a good zoom surface while I'm sitting on my couch, I like. The last thing is just more candles again with the little luxuries like Burning Ice Candle makes me so happy right now. There's two that I love 'em. One is the beauty pie, white peach, and Jasmine one I wanNA. I WanNa say that's what it is. Is White Peach something a love that one? And then I got one from a company called the Sat Sensual Candle Company, which I think I've talked about as an obsession It's a black owned business and candles are phenomenal. The one call Fam- is so nice if it just smells like citrus and champagne. Yum, yes, how `Bout you? Way, fewer things okay, so we already talked about the air fryer. That's definitely there for me. Second thing is this Calabrian pepper spread. So. This is a grossly Pelosi find who we all know. Him Very obsessed with on instagram and. It's called. The brand is called to Toe Calabria and he puts it on everything. He talks about it and looked at on Amazon, and it was like twenty five dollars and I was like I can't do this like I'm not I'm not into this, but I was at whole foods the other day, and they just had it whole foods. Oh, so I got it, and it's this hot pepper spray. You wouldn't like it. It's too spicy for you, and it is delicious, but it makes any sandwich better. I also really like it with avocado toast like to put a little bit on under the Avocado. Yum highly recommend us. The second two things have to do with Mike Quest where I decided to get into cocktails except I realized that I only like to cocktails for the most part so I like a dirty Martini and you like Manhattan and that's pretty much. That's so funny I. I mean sometimes i. like something like spicy, but it can't be too sweet. Sweetness is a big thing for me and I don't like fruity cocktails. I think there were going to make you a Negroni Spritz this summer. Don't like new knees. Are you sure because I made you in the greeny and you didn't mind it? I think that you like Campari, but you hate apple. I don't know I. Don't know. I I'm determined she. She's really funny. I have a partnership Belushi onboard and one time I was like. Do you WanNa? Come down for a drink and she's like. Yes, but as long as there was no sham board in it I was like no everything I make as Chambord on a streak, and I just it's to spy love him. Bart delicious I do not like sweet or fruity cocktails for the most part so anyway. I was like okay I'm GONNA, learn how to make Manhattan which is actually very easy i. just never done it so I didn't know so i. Went to the liquor store to get Bourbon and Sweet vermouth and then I was like Oh. I Need Cocktail Cherries and. They're like Oh. We don't have any, but you could like. Get them at the grocery store, so there's this gourmet grocery store near our house and I went there. Just GonNa Elbert Yeah 'cause I needed. What I needed, but anyway I was there, and I was like oh I wonder if they have cocktail cherries, so went got these charities and I got to the register. There were twenty five dollars most like what the fuck on my God. But it's like the. It's like the kind of like cocktail cherries like it's not Mira. She Know Cherry that Lake. You had when you were kid in Shirley Temple. It gets like the cherries that you get an a Manhattan at a Bar Yeah I. Don't like those who I love them. They're so. They're called Looks Ardo Cherries so anyway, so I bought them and I was lake well. I mean I. Guess I'm not spending that much money on other things so like. Little luxury to quote grace. But I was like I. can't I don't think this is going to be worth it there so good? Also I mean there's a ton on the JAR, so it'll last. Yeah a long time. But getting the Cherries really made the difference in the Manhattan, if I just had like Narashino series, it would not have been the same. But any cherry juice in ours just the one I put to terrorism okay to Charis. To put any of the juice in, or is it just? It makes a difference. The fruitful in there will. It's like a treat to eat at the end. Okay, it was like, but does IRT. But does it affect the flavor of the drink? Yeah, maybe a little. Okay, so it's more about the treat. At the end. It's more about the tree beyond just clarifying I just want. I'm just seeking dinner Santa Someone who doesn't Like Cherries? Yeah, so that was one of my best purchases and then I also needed to buy cocktail glasses because they didn't have the right kind of glasses for Manhattan because I like my Manhattan's on the rocks so I got these old man cocktail glasses like they just look like something that like a rich executive would have in his office. Textured and they're like very cool looking. I got them at crate and barrel. All linked them in the show notes, but. It makes me feel very fancy to have an at home Manhattan. Well that So yeah, so that's something that I've gotten into, but let's hear from a listener on what their favorite kitchen purchase was. Oh, this is a good one. Hi, BECCA AND GRACE! This is Sarah Keener from Denver Colorado. The best corn purchase that I made is something that I didn't even realize that honestly needed, but now feel like I can't live my life without, and that is a FR- author to us on the milk that I into my coffee so I found a bunch of different options on Amazon I went with one. That was like I think seventeen dollars. It had a bunch of different colors I got one. That's read so I love the color, but something that straight for me every day. But, honestly having a father has revolutionized my coffee game I love that you can use it on cold milk or hot milk I love that you can froth the milk in the Mug, and then pour the coffee on top of it, but I think my favorite way to use. The author is to pour my coffee in the coffee mug. Poor my milk in a separate mug of froth the milk in the separate. Mug and then pour the frost milk on top of the coffee into the coffee. Mug, that I'm going to drink out of and I try and get really fancy with it and make some type of design, but I'm not a Barista or. A coffee artists so. It's giving me something to strive for. I haven't really achieved greatness with that yet. Overall ten out of ten would recommend a coffee for author It's really revolutionized how I drink coffee, and especially in these times according teen, it is something really small and relatively inexpensive. That has sparked a lot of joy for me. Hope you to are well. Look forward to listening to this. PODCAST shall we get into clothing grace? Yes, let's do it okay, so obviously. The first thing on my list is the pandemic pants, so these are the old navy plush knit joggers that I discovered the first week of quarantine from Hesse. They're the most comfortable pants on the world. They're so soft. They're so comfortable I before. Quarantine was not somebody who owned a lot of sweatpants. Because if I was lounging at home. I was either wearing like a nightgown, so I was no pants or shorts usually yeah, but I was not wearing sweatpants or like I was wearing yoga pants because I was running errands. Yeah, I have a lot of sweatpants already I did not and. So this was like a big investment for me to find the right sweatpants to make my at home comfort lifestyle pairs. Did you end up by I got four. I got my four pairs. I got two pairs in light, Gray, one parent, dark and one pair in like off white. Okay I have the dark gray in the off by I have to Paris and honestly I feel like it was the right amount because. Laundry was quite a situation at one point. During Quarantine honoree was such a situation, so it was like the right amount that I needed to get myself through laundry, but still have quarantine pants to wherever. So, anyway, that was definitely my number one. However, in the making of this episode, somebody recommended a different type of old navy pants, so let's hear from her high Grayson Becca assist Sam from Boulder Colorado and my favorite pandemic purchase has been the olden. Bland Pants I know that at the very initial seasons of quarantine back out was a really strong advocate for the pandemic pants which I think, read the old Navy jogger is, but now as low temperatures are soaring, and we're entering the summer months and here and still social distancing. Basically, not leaving my apartment building I have found that the old navy linen pants have been just the absolute must comfortable breathe -able solution to disdain comfy, and still feeling. Put together enough to go to the store or Just take a walk outside, and so that is. Very very strong recommendation grace. You need to look into these. They sound amazing. I mean I just like cheap comfy pants. Sumi, so then the other thing that I bought was I bought. some t shirts from American Eagle from their airline generally I dislike anything from American Eagle. That is not for Mary, but I love things that are very. I will also tell you about. Area underwear wants to hear about it. Which is the best underwrite? It's three dollars anyway so I got to V.. Shirts and it's called the boyfriend distressed. Shirt they're very comfy. They are like an oversized shirt. That I think would cute with biker shorts. I wear them with Yoga hands, but they're like they're definitely oversized. Okay, and they have like a little distressing like round the neck. Okay so I got two of those and last time I looked. They were all out, but I'm just on their site now and they are both in stock on sale, so I may be buying more of these okay. Because again I didn't have that. Many t shirts like I just feel quarantine has changed. What I wearing. Yeah, because I'm not going anywhere. Yeah, then to beat a dead horse and tell you about things that I have already told you I'm obsessed with what I continue to be obsessed with. The True Co true. Lift Scoop Bra. It is uncomfortable. It is so comfortable. It is the only non under wire Bra, but isn't a sports bra that I've ever worn that. I found to be both comfortable and also support enough. Yeah, so I love this. I ended up buying a second one and I bought the triangle one instead of the scoop one. That was a mistake. That was annot has all of the scoop? It's all about the scoop, but the scoop with the skinny straps. There's a thick strap one which I personally do not like. The Look of I saw that I was. Super Ugly Yeah I. IT looks like a Sports Bra, but like I wouldn't want to I, don't know yeah, so I, like the skinny strap one, but I bought the skinny strap triangle one and I felt like I was a little, too on display, unlike might fall out of the top. Okay, so I didn't like that so now I have another one in the mail that is the. Scoop one okay, but I'm very devoted to this great. And then. Just as putting out there the thing that I have my great white whale of quarantine more recently has been shorts. I have been ordering so many different denim shorts. And then returning them, because I don't like them, it's so hard to find good cutoffs. The ones I swear by are the the rag and bone boy short. They discontinued the style. So that's not very helpful. I know but maybe on posh mark or like on threat up or something you can find it. Yeah, but then you can't like return it. Best True. So. I'm just like operating a waystation in my home for denim shorts just. Going through? Yeah, so if anyone has done him short recommendations, maybe I'll. Maybe I'll cave and try eight gold ones I haven't tried those yet. Those look short. Depends, everyone raves about them, and they look like diapers okay well. Blessing I have seen in the mail from made well right now. I tried J. crew and I didn't like them. I tried Amazon one day did like them? So, I'm on the hunt. Okay? What have you brought for us on the clothing side so I have brought. What have I brought you I? Brought a lot of things zone is I I'm really into the Borey joggers and the shorts which are made out of like a similar fabric to the beyond Yoga, leggings and I feel like they're dislike. Really, soft and lightly and good for summer so I told you this offline. We had a discussion about this that I think I. WanNa get into bike shorts. The summer and gray said that she wouldn't be my friend. Anymore. I will still be your friend I. Just think it's the worst trash we'll talk about me behind my back. Payroll I wouldn't do that either, but I just think that their trash I think. Think it's a terrible trend. That should never be a true. I never got the update from Alex on her bike shorts. Because we're talking about this and I think grace thought that Alex was GonNa agree with her dogs. No I ordered bike shorts Amazon like I'm ready to go I. We haven't seen Alex wearing the bike shorts so i. think that's our update. K. Well, we'll find out at dinner. Yeah, I am. Putting out there that I'm interested in bike shorts, especially because I'm a big part of my life right now is going on long walks and so yoga pants. It's too hot for so if I had you just need to find the ideal Jean Short that fits you well. Yeah, but like going on a seven mile walk in Jean shorts feels like chief city or get the horry shorts. They're like short joggers. They're not tight bike shorts, but they're cute I. I'm going get bike shorts, but I might also get I have to look these up because I do not know at the very short look like. They're great them. I also am really into tract Smith, shorts, which just look like I'm like vintage track shorts from like the seventies I was a runner all through high school, so there's like a soldier there that I love How stresses I've been loading up on I've been wearing my. Captains from my Amazon collection quite a bit, but I also got some other house dresses which are linked on my blog. If you search best house dresses, they're all in their I've been really into the somersault PJ's specifically the night shirts because they're like made out of this silky fabric that feels like sat in our silk, but they hold up well in the Washer and dryer like sending our Andrea out can ruin a lot of things in these. Hold up quite well I. Love are bad on paper sweatshirts from. I haven't worn mine yet. Because it like literally came on the cusp of getting really hot. Yeah, I wear my in Alec. Put on at night when it gets a little cooler or Alec, wear it around. The House I feel like my apartment just runs hotter than yours. Because heat rises. Yeah, so I feel like there's never an opportunity in this season where I'm like I'm chilly like I'm always hot in my apartment, I also love like putting layers on like like even if it's hot like to have a blanket army. The social threads sweat suit. This is another favourite. This is crazy sweat. Suit I have like the bright colors, and it matches its way too hot for Taiwan. Yeah the tide Oh. Yeah, but it's way too hot for it now, but it is one of my favorite things. It's so crazy and loud and I love it and the last one is what I was calling my pandemic? They were those fluffy slides from og them because they have. A strap on the back and they have like a real soul. Silly, therefore drive mode. You can basically wear them outside if you want to you I. Mean I don't, but you said that these were your city. Ruin them. No, I have them. It's just again too warm for them. Okay, so the social threads sweat suit and the pandemic shoes I definitely wanted to include because they were such good purchases, but I don't think. That! I can wear them now. Well, let's hear from listeners who have a couple of different clothing racks high, Grayson Becca. My Name's kristen economists. I'm coming to you from demoines Iowa here in quarantine and I have a couple of pandemic purchases that have been my favorite this spring. The first one I WANNA share is a purchase for thirteen dollars from Amazon, all it is Amazon basics fanny pack. I love to go on long walks in. Listen to memoirs on Audio Book. Thanks to the two of you and your suggestions and noticed that having a fanny pack is perfect to hold my phone my keys, my. My Lip Balm and my air pods as well as my mask when I'm walking, so that's my first one. The second pandemic purchase that I've made that I'm loving is from the beauty bureau by Katie, Oldham she somebody that I follow on Instagram at the beauty bureau. Beauty is spelled. B., E., Y., O., U., T., Y. Bureau! She has incredible makeup brushes, and I purchased her flawless face set of six makeup brushes their outstanding quality, the Best I've used in years, and they're really affordable, so those are the two things I have. They're making my days a little bit brighter. Thanks for asking by. BECCA in Greece. This is large from New York City in May I turned around my fitness routine with home workouts and long walks so obviously I needed a whole new or drove and equipment. I signed up for obey an at home workout fitness, APP, which has been life changing, which is spelled o b e with an acute accent over the. For my hit and cardio workouts, I bought these beautiful white. A six GEL. Twenty seven. A six is a must have for my fellow flat feet, people. I bought seven pairs of colorful neoprene dumbbells at different sizes when three or four pairs probably would have been enough, but I like variety, and if you haven't been able to find any online at checkout, Guy, the company G I. M. For clues I have bought four pairs and counting of ethylene leggings made with their power via material, which is so soft and buttery amazing. The leggings I bought are called the salutation stash pocket to it's met for Yoga pilates and bar type workouts and has a huge pocket which fits my iphone, eight plus great for my walks, and they don't have a ton of compression, so they're also just great for lounging in all right great. What about on the Beauty Front? Unsurprisingly, you have a long list here. Yes, Bats have been a big one I'm really loving wars. Coconut milk bath so nice. I also love equilibrium. Is D bath bombs? They saw in a four-pack and it smells like lemongrass and I just love them. The next one is a new retinal I've been testing so I really liked the bioscience retinol, which like a plant based for alternative. It's really really good the one that I've been testing right now. I I'm not sure I might like it even more. Is this shit? Shawny Darden retinol reform, and it has like a cult. Following I had to try it, so I've been testing that right now and I love it. The other one. Is these retinol patches that you can sleep in? And I put them on my crow's feet, like before bedtime and I like to think that they make a difference the next day. I don't know if they actually do anything interesting, but they're like little patches that are infused with all, and like little like micro needles infused into your skin. Glow scream supergroup glows green has been my everyday favourite now I didn't put on my list when I agree with us. It's the best. It's Scott. SUNSCREEN SPF, but it makes you glow like an absolutely until it's the greatest. Our friend Jackie was like. Do you like Sun Protection and a commitment to highlighter than this is free and I'm like yeah, I like both things is the absolute best is my favorite. Probably my favorite beauty products is twenty twenty. Twenty The tart see curl. Mascara has been a favorite clean Mascara that does not flake which a lot of clean Mascara can flake and the my new face my new face. I love my face, I. Feel like I haven't used it. I've been slacking off in using it when I use it consistently I, noticed a huge difference specially like I'm just looking more lifted in a wake more defined cheekbones less wrinkles on my forehead and a more defined. Defined jaw line now. How long do I have to use it for like five minutes for five times a week? Okay, yeah, then just overall I really enjoyed getting scrappy I've been doing a lot of home lapsing use. The Flamingo Strips ice I've been shaving my legs again because it's summer and I want them to be like smooth every day, but I love. The Flamingo Wax Strips for my legs from my underarms. I got the Bikini. Bikini Line Kit and I've been waxing my own bikini line. which I know is crazy. I just hate body hair so I. WanNa. Pull it off and get it off there also home brow dying was a big one getting all the products Jackie's I, wrote a whole book blog post about both of these things, but yeah I feel like I've been teaching myself how to do so a lot of those things I used to pay someone to do. YEAH SO I! Don't have a lot on this so I talked about last week. My New Obsession is the Emeka perk-up dry shampoo. It goes on a little bit white, but it dries clear and I feel like it is not. A GOLDILOCKS BETWEEN NOT ENOUGH Drying and then like too much drying that I've experienced other ones I really like that. I during the Sephora Sale. I got a couple of things so first of all I got the job. The giant size of the Ola plex number three. That has been life changing, so it's been like my og favorite. It's a hair mask and it. It restores bonds and your hair, so it makes your hair. Less susceptible to breakage, and I started using it two years ago and I. Do think that it is fundamentally changed my hair. Yeah, used to come in this stupid, Dinky little bottle which I feel like. It was like four applications, but now they made an a larger that I think is eight ounces, and it's changed the game. Okay, so the big Ola plex, not new product, but I guess a new products is. Game Changing. Fan I got the Charlotte Tilbury magic cream which I have mixed feelings about mixed in that I love it. But. It is not clean. And I almost. Wish that somebody who is knowledgeable about it would help me look through the ingredients last to tell me what about it is not clean, and how unclean it is because I love it. Okay, it is like. Thick, but not too thick, so it's very moisturizing, but it's not like like Lamar I. Like all hearts so good yeah, I used to love it I. Don't not love it. I got really into border well. I stopped using it. I had used it before I think I stopped using it because it was at the time, it was like this is expensive, because it's like one hundred dollars jar and I feel like you go through a pretty quick. Yeah, so I was like. I'm not going to repurchase, but then I was bored during the Sephora sale and I was like what I want to buy and I got this so I have. Mixed feelings about it because of the ingredients but Lord do I love it. Yeah, you know for your face, I'm of the mind that like. We've we've had this conversation before I, think using a little bit of a product is not entirely clean on your faces. Okay, if you're using this body moisturizer, something in your slathering it yourself all over with it I would be a little bit more worried, but let's hear a quick wreck from listener hi. Becka this is Emma calling in from Washington D.. C. And I wanted to share a few of my favorite items that I've purchased during this weird time of social distancing, and I feel I'm looking at all of my best purchases right now laid out on my bed, and I feel like a dragon sitting on her treasure right now, I've bought a lot, but the best things I've bought so far have been this micro derm. derm Abrasion skin-care tool that I got for sixty percent off. Thanks to a Promo Code from an instagram influence there I was really totally influenced, and that just like sucks the gunk and junk out of your pores on your face, and it's really nice and feel so luxuriance and I feel like a real adult when I use it, and like I'm taking care of my skin, the second thing that I bought and love are the. Bike leggings that have recently come out and they are so flattering and I would date myself if I saw you wearing them walking down the street I just feel like I. Look so good in them. And on a similar note, I also bought a jeans from made well as did, and as someone who has a smaller waist and a bigger, but I cannot tell you how thankful I am that the era of low rise jeans is over. Thank you, Jesus. Just that time. That was really difficult for me. There are so many other things I could share, but for the sake of time I will end it there. Thank you so much for the podcast ladies. You brightened my week every week. Thank you all right. Let's get into tech, so I would like to tell you about my zoom lighting adventures. So I have a macbook air that is about two years old and I swear to God the camera on it is from like two thousand nine, like it is so bad the camera on my computer so bad interesting and especially in any kind of situation that is low lighting. It is awful. Okay, so if it is during the day and I'm in my office that has a window that faces directly towards my face. It is fine, but like if it's evening or something like the lighting is terrible, okay, so I've struggled because I am vain monster with. Zoom lighting so. Early in the quarantine I bought a clip on ring light from Amazon and I was like this isn't a solve all my problems, except didn't because it was like brighter than the sun, and like it was impossible to like look at your computer while it was attached to it. Yeah, so I was like. Wow, this is not the answer. So I bought which also see you have thoughts on I bought A. Tripod ringling Combo situation from Amazon which I really like. It was like fifty dollars. It was great. However, the reality is that I am not going to use that on a day-to-day basis. I bought it because I had to do like an instagram. Live thing and you know it was like something that I knew that I had to like set up for, but like if I had to just jump on a conference call I, wouldn't be like. Let me set up my ring light. Yeah, so I got an Instagram ad. For this thing. It's called. The Lou May Cube L. U. M.. E. Cube, and it is a light. Light that suction cups onto your computer, but it's actually a really good light. Cool, so what I like about it is that you can control the brightness so my Amazon one that was just literally like the brightness of the Sun. There's like settings from zero to one hundred that you can adjust so that is both the brightness you on your face, but also so you can look at it. Okay? Second the it can attach anywhere on your computer versus the ringling I had was supposed to go around the camera, so it was literally like right where you're looking And then it also has a temperature breaks see you can change it all the way from like very cool lighting to like warm lighting. You can also get the lighting to be like the temperature. You want call so I'm very into this and I feel like. If I was just zooming with like my usual Wednesday night. Friends like obviously I wouldn't do this, but if I had like an important meeting or something like that like I would definitely throw this on. Yeah, I probably I've been taking all my meetings with like Kinda shitty lighting, but it's fine I mean i. it will depend how important it was like if it was with a new client and with somebody I didn't know. Yeah. Yeah, or if I was doing like. An interview or something I don't know like there are certain situations where I would like. Yeah I would like to look decent like anything that I. DO my hair for yeah. There are tons assumes that I take that I mike. I'm a trash person hello. That's funny. What about what did you bring? Mine is just my ring. Lake tripod. It's a little tripod that I got on Amazon we might have the same one. It was like fifty or sixty dollars. I think your light is bigger than mine. Okay, and it's just good. I did a lot of my videos with if I do instagram lives I use it that kind of thing. Yeah, it's Nice. It's Nice light. Stand adjustable. Yes, Oh, the light is from like coming from overhead versus directly in your face, so it's easier to look at yeah. So now we are into the miscellaneous portion of things and I will tell you that you guys are. Listeners brought a lot of random suggestions, which I'm very excited for. Oh, I love that. Should we start with our listeners random suggestions? Yes, Okay Hey Kim Becca. This is Sarah from Seattle. My favorite purchase during quarantine has been the New York Times cooking APP one of my goals was. Was To push myself out of my cooking. Comfort Zone so I've made a Co von Chocolate Baabda Fa Katcher Bread, but I've also gotten really comfortable. Making some classics to add to my weekday mic, so creamy balls summer, corn, Salad, hot, honey, shrimp, a great seven layer dip for parties, and I highly recommend the APP. It is great. If you're trying to cook seasonally, it's great for. For cooking inspiration and lots of different ability levels, so I will definitely be keeping my subscription throughout the year high Grayson Becca. My Name's Catherine I'm calling from San Diego and my best quarantine purchase. vibrator is my first one ever no time like the present right? Hi, my name's Kayla. I live in San. Francisco and my favorite quarantine purchase has been my dog. Frank I adopted him. Him from an animal shelter in April, and he's done a great job keeping me company and also keeping me busy and entertained during the past few months. Hey, Becca in Graz. This is yes mean and I wanted to share with you. Guys my favorite purchase since being in lockdown and for me that has been a vinyl record player, so it's aesthetically adorable in my home. And then I'm also having a lot of fun purchasing the actual vinyl records, because just having that tangible kind of album in your hands looking at the artwork. is just it. There's something so special about it. And then playing the music on the record players. Wall has just been fun. So that's my favorite purchase. Art Grace One. You okay, so mine has been first of all things gardening I've gotten until like I have this weird vibrator that you put on top of your plant like the blossom and shakes out the pollen to like encourage. Pollination and Allegedly, increases. Tomato crop yields by thirty percent so I I saw that it needs a different name. I think it's so funny calling it my planet vibrator. That's not it was called is called us on pollinator. A sonic pollinator does not sound like something. You're going to put inter around your vagina. Versus I thought plant vibrator is so funny. I'm doing this on purpose like it's not called that on the on Amazon, if my vibrator. Every day I go outside and I bring my plants to help increase pollination. So I have that I got really cute kit with like a trowel, and like all the little things that you need for gardening and shears pruning Shears I've just gone really into gardening, so that's been super fun. Another thing I love is my Aero Garden which we've talked about at length by love. My Aero Garden I love having fresh herbs. It's so wonderful. my basil steam. Mop is a great one. I love it so much against my floors so clean. I use the eucalyptus water that you can also buy on Amazon and it makes my apartment smell spa. My favorite Sunday afternoon activity. Love it. We also had a listener who loves her steam mop. Hear what she has to say. Hi, this is Mary from Michigan, during Quarantine I participate missile steam up influenced by one Liz Adams it is by far my favorite cleaning and overall purchase of all time. This thing cleans everywhere picks up everything using dirt. You didn't know you had or have ever seen. It cleans it up. I've sent countless hours cleaning floors. Clean my windowsills opening up my stove steam cleaning inside. I didn't even know that was the thing I've given tutorials to people who have definitely not asked for this point. This will probably be paying me for marketing their steamboat. steamboat, it's grossing received despite the couple of US Steam Burns that I have received from them. I'd recommend it to everyone I know. It is a magical investment, and then lastly one is kind of a big splurge. I did flower boxes peony subscription, so it was just for four weeks every Friday I got a delivery, beautiful fresh peonies, and it really Osias like something amazing to look forward to I, loved it. It was really special. Infant I am very excited that my local favourite flower shop sprout I. Think is probably going to be reopening on Monday. Because retail can re-open. That's amazing I hope or no not Monday a week from Monday I. Hope that Fox fodder farm which is right next to my yoga studio. I hope that they reopen. I'm very excited I. Well. People have a couple of people have sent me flowers because a from compiled, so that has been very lovely and I'm very grateful, but I enjoy not being the only living thing in my apartment. Yeah, so I have to hear. The first thing is that I really subscribed to the New York Times Crossword Puzzle and I had a used to have it when I was working in an office than I used to do it on the subway every morning while I was commuting. Yeah, but then I stopped commuting, so I stopped doing it everyday. It's also expensive. It's like fifty dollars a year. I have a deep problem with the amount of different New York Times subscriptions I, have because I have the regular one of the cooking one and then I have the crossword one and I'm like Jeeze, Skies Lake. Couldn't we have rolled into one? Yeah, so it just irks me when all the different charges hit my bank account so anyway during quarantine I was like I'm GonNa read out word. It has become my little morning ritual where I've spoken at length that I am not a very good first thing in the morning. Person I need to like become human, and usually I cannot account for that time. It's like stuck in an instagram hall or like reading. God knows what news or who knows what I'm doing, but now I've worked the crossword into that time and so I like sit and have my coffee and I do the crossword and I feel like I'm getting a little smarter, and it's like I don't know it's like more productive than like the instagram. Keyhole I'm usually. That's so nice so that. And then the other random purchase I made is that Rachel and I licensed. I'll make love to you by boys to men for Rom Com pods, which I think is the funniest purchase we made. That's amazing, we we. Needed to like. Officially licensed. We looked at a couple songs, but that one ended up being MSCI best, and we also liked it, so we were like we're going for it, but we spent a thousand dollars in licensed. I'll make love to you by boys to men are just for the sake of joke that's. Okay that's commitment. Yeah, so five hundred dollars each so yeah, that's something else. That I bought that brought me a lot of joy during quarantine. Okay I. Don't know if anyone else here has. Occasion to license music for jokes, but just recommending it. MIA's for Your Business Yeah Yeah. I'm so excited about all of our listener racks I have a lot of products to check out. Yeah, I'm so grateful to everyone who wrote in with Iraq, not wrote in called Elton with Iraq release noted us. I think maybe we'll try to do some crowd episodes. Yeah in the future. I think this is really fun. Agree, so let's get into. End Matter yes. Why don't you obsessed with this this week this this week this year? Well, so I told you what my zoom lighting quest that that has been recent in the past week. That I've been on this question, so I'm obsessed with my Luma. Q I told you about that. The other thing that I am obsessed with is season two of the politician so good so good I think it's better than season one. Oh don't know I feel like they're both amazing I think it's better than I think it's better than season one. I think Gwyneth paltrow. Storyline is way better and season two. It's like hilarious and I kind of liked that they're out of high school. That's true I. Just love the first season so much. wasn't expecting to love it so I feel like I, knew season two would be great, and my expectations were already really high. It's so good I loved it. I benched at all last weekend. Same. What have you done? To K on the first one is brand called straightaway cocktails and they're really cool. I saw them featured in Clarin. Erica's newsletter and I was like I. Like this idea and you know I love in a grosny. So I got a bottle of the pre made Negroni. Is They also sent me some fun extras? They sent me their spritzers. I can which I would totally buy again, but I realized they were six dollars each which is too expensive, but chief than if you bought a drink at a bar, that's true. They're delicious it's a small business based out of Oregon and I just really like what they're doing. And I think their packaging is beautiful. On the my other one I don't know if I've said this before, but my favorite favorite place to buy underwear is company called Rx A. R. A. K. S I found them on man pillar like years ago, but they make my favorite lace Bra. Let's like I I. Think I have three and I just ordered to more, and they're just so nice. The quality is fantastic. They hold up really well in the wash and I love I like pretty much. where matching underwear sets like Rosin underwear and I like my favorite thing to do is treat myself to a new set, and I bought myself to new sets this week so I'm looking at this because I never heard of this and I feel like the bras are. Reasonably ish priced. I feel the underwear wildly too expensive. Yeah I mean it's interesting because the bras like a hundred dollars and the. underwears like forty or something. Some of the underwear out here is like fifty or sixty dollars. Yeah, I'm I wasn't saying this is an affordable thing. I, really I just love their are I, think the fit is so good and I love the matching sets and I'm I mostly wear three dollar under so. Going up to like fifteen acts that he added much for me, too. Yeah, I hear you I, only have a few, but like a-, I had three sets, and I bought two more because they hold up well in the wash, like over a year later all minor imperfect condition and be they just make me happy like I got. I started with a green sat and a few set then I moved to lemon wearing women right now. as show Becca my lease and then I just got like a Tan, color, and bright, purple and I like it for summer like it easy. It's comfortable so comfortable, but it's so cute, too. So I. Don't know if I've talked about them before, but they make my favorite underwear. What about on Instagram? Do you. Who's Zaira is now? It's just Z. W.. E.! So she. Found this recommendation via read it because she interviewed Caroline Calloway and then she interviewed Allison Roman this week, and she is like a black comedian. She calls people out on their bullshit like she'll be like. How many black friends do you have the Samat like it? You have to be brave to go on her show, but I listened to the Allison Roman interview this week, and it was interesting and I started the Caroline Calloway one, but I didn't get all the way through. It It's it's a mix of funny and also like I. Don't know it's a little bit embarrassing if you're the person being interviewed. US A have a thick skin, but I really. I have to say I enjoyed her interviews with Allison Roman interesting I. Check that out on one of my walks, yeah! So mine is to follow Verapaz, Sova, he I either do or I might still I might have followed, so she used to be a An editor at Teen Vogue and I used to follow her I. Guess I must've followed her, but she has been posting a ton about the fireworks. And if you do not live in, don't share city. You may not be experiencing this, but. They're in Brooklyn where we live in major cities. There's nightly fireworks all through the night and it is. So rage inducing, and it's really jarring loud. Yeah, and it's like here I feel like it's every fifteen minutes from like eight PM until three in the morning and so she has been so. There's also a lot of conspiracy theories where I don't know where I fall on the conspiracy theories but I do enjoy reading about them. Yeah, so she has. has been posting a ton of stuff about the fireworks on her instagram stories. She also posts a lot of social justice things too so i. do feel like I'm enjoying following her outside of the fireworks stuff, but I'm. I started following her. Because I think Halina from Brooklyn Blonde her somebody was like pointed to her about the fireworks and it was like. Yeah I'm all in on fireworks spiracy. Let's go so yeah. Yeah fireworks men there. They've been intense. Yeah, yeah, what about books? Okay, so I finished big friendship. It was so good. Oh good, so this is the book by. Me Not to so an Friedman who are the hosts of call your girlfriend and it is a narrative driven nonfiction about their friendship, so it is about female friendships in general, but also their friendship specifically and I love the so much that we are going to have them on the podcast around the release of their books. I'm so excited about that I mean let's. Let's be honest, wanted to have them on the podcast before they're at a book. Yes, but I'm even more excited now with a book and to just talk about them. Talk to them about female friendships, which is one of our favorite topics, and if anyone has been to our live shows, we usually do a segment on friendship so very excited to talk to them. Then I started this book called Real men. By QUANTA Jackson. And so this is a romance about a man in Harlem. whose Adoptive mother dies all happens, and like the first few pages and She owns a knitting store and he decides to keep it open, so he starts running this knitting store himself, and then it's a romance of like, will they are, won't they? With this woman who works the store grace? I am like halfway through this book. So I bought this book so Lindsey. CALC, who have no desire to read this book? It's so good you're so fucking wrong. Is this going to be the next idea? IDEA. I don't know I. I mean I haven't gotten to the sexy part yet, so I don't know okay, but the build up grade. Okay, so I read this because Lindsey CALC. Who is one of my favorite British Rom? com authors who wrote one in a million was reading it, and she posted on her story something to the effect of I have never needed to characters in a book to have sex more than these people. Okay, and I was like sold ordering right now so. I am about halfway through and I completely agree with that description in a good way like it's a good build up I'll let you know how the rest, but I love her writing. and I love the. Back stories of the characters yeah. Like it's it comes from a really interesting angle about The guy who keeps the next door open has three foster brothers who are all biracial or multiracial and. It also just has to do with like small business and gentrification in Harlem so there's like a really nice richness to the backstory of these people outside of just like these two people fucker. What so it's great? Okay? What about you? Okay, so? I finished the vanishing half and I read in like. A day like this was a book. I read last weekend. I loved it so much. We chose it as our July book club. Pick and I'm so happy. We're reading it because I think this discussion. Around is going to be amazing. It's just such a fantastic book. then I read also in a day one to watch by Kate. STAYMAN LONDON BECCA. You're going to love this it. It was I had this queued up as an next, but then the knitting book came in the mail and I was like I need to. This is just is made for me. Okay, so what one's a watch is about a thinly-veiled Bachelor and this woman is a plus sized fashion blogger, and she gets drunk one night and writes this whole rant about the bachelor, and how insult true stuff? It's like how they. Don't the representation is terrible? They never have anyone like they never have had a black bachelor everything else and she kind of like a tear down and they. Listen to her and they re revamp the whole show and they invite her to be on the show. And it is just. Fantastic? It's like got some good romantic bits it's. Dramatic, it's fun. It's so well in I felt like. I think you said this about a book we had read. One of the ROM coms like I just felt like I really identified with the characters in the way that they talk to each other like just they're emailing style and the way that they spoke to each other felt like very much like our group of friends. I'm excited. I loved it I have this in my like. I have like seven TV are piles. Like my long-term T. B.. R. My like short-term medium-term, and then I like three books pulled out. That I'm like I'm reading these this month. Yes well, so it's in the smallest pile. Bug is a real tree. And then I read home before dark. which is the new Riley Sagar Book? It was good my books, so is my blog right full reviews there, but It was good. It was not as great as the other eilly Sagar books as background Riley Sager is one of my favorite thriller writers I. Love Everything I every time. He has a new book I like. I. Like I. Love his his writing. This is so scary owes a ghost story and it was so scary like reading it before bad islas like I knew. This is a good buttery before bed. They finished it last night, and I really enjoyed it gave it a b, plus like it was definitely worth reading, but it's not like, and I think also because I read patsy and nickel boys, and the vanishing half like my standards kind of went up, and like reading like silly thriller, like it's hard to give them like an area, plus so that was really good, and then I started. Sleeping with strangers by Eric, Jerome One of the things I want to do like I've already said this but I'm trying to read at least fifty percent of my books by people of Color with an emphasis on black authors, but I. Realize that read tons of more serious books and Romance novels by Black Authors but. Thrillers which is like my favorite genre, there aren't as many like fun. Light trashy thrillers by Black Authors so somebody in either my facebook group or the batum paper facebook group recommended sleeping with strangers by Eric Jerome and I started that last night, and too soon to tell, but and I enjoyed the first chapter great. Yeah, so if you're looking for a book, we will be discussing the vanishing off by Britain Bennett on the last Wednesday of the month, and this book has been. I feel like all over Bookstore Graham feel like everyone. I, know has read it. I like so many of you. When we announced that we were having at were show like this is the best book I've read recently so I I have not read it, but I'm very excited is so good, so join us for that. Then in the meantime had tour, facebook, group and talk to us about product conditions pretty much anything over there. Yeah, follow us on Instagram at that on paper podcast I'm on Instagram at Beckenham. Freeman I'm instagram at grace. Atwood and I blog every day at the stripe dot com. Next week. 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 127. Kemah Bob - I threw a burrito at her

Made Of Human with Sofie Hagen

1:17:13 hr | 1 year ago

127. Kemah Bob - I threw a burrito at her

"I thought that it wasn't running away from home. And I thought that it wasn't running away from anything. And then it went home. And I was like, oh, this is what I don't live here. I keep saying it's for career opportunities. But this is why don't live here. You the sneaked him made a few also known as the mole pod up podcast hosted by Sophie, thank and who is a Danish comedian law. Find out. It is the episode with KEMA Bob came up up. I've sometimes done shows where I've mentioned KEMA so through secret dinosaur called which is my other podcast. I'll sometimes people just mentioned people who do cruel things. And when we mentioned the few times, we've mentioned KEMA there's always been like, a an audible reaction from anyone who's ever seen or experienced head has speak at any other point people are like like, it's always positive people that the something so magnetic on so. Magnetic that even the right word like. In enthrall enthralling. I don't even know if that I don't know that means sorry came out. There's something amazing about came up up. What a presence what a personality what an amazing and hilarious person. So this came up ops episode meant to do this almost a year ago now and things fell through. So I'm so excited we find it got to do it recorded it might that room. We have another peasant who was not freaked out by doing this in my bedroom. I'm very happy about that. Have it sue announced KEMA liked all my my sequined coast. I feel like that brings me great joy. So before that, you listen to the channel had Makita it touches heavily upon mental health and trauma. And you know, I love that stuff. And I'm sure you love it. And I'm sure you'll love KEMA and. Yeah. So before that you listen to that. I'll just quickly tell you. I'm stand up comedian in case, you didn't know him stand up comedian. I do stand up, and I'm also writing a book. So I'm going on a UK book and stand up circled bubble wrap. Happy fat that is may April June of two thousand nineteen I will then go on wouldn't call it. So, but I'm doing two shows in Denmark in Copenhagen and always in English in April that that's my new show called the bump swings. Not the same show as I'm doing on my UK too. But it will be the same show that I will take Edinburgh in August. You can get all the tickets and all the information about the shows that says the tickets the prizes. The the names of the towns and all that on my websites. Sophie, Hagan dot com. Way you can also sign up for my newsletter. So get secrets and gossip, and you can also buy the film divisions of my two previous shows bubble wrap and shimmer Schatzer. No, not bubble wrap. Shimmer? She has Ryan dead baby. Frog. Bala rap is is the one I'm doing on her own of that is on my website, Soviet dot com. There's also a link to Amazon because you can preorder my book. Happy fat, my book about wives locates. It'd be fat. You can pre-order it an Amazon or ever you buy your books, and and listen, I know, I know that Masan don't pay tax, and that is horrible and awful. And if you don't want to put Amazon, absolutely understandable, Goto Waterstones. I don't know. I don't know if they pay tax goes to any other book place where you know, they do like, your local whatever I just know that it matches in terms of algorithms and stuff because if Amazon lectu then you can go on the list. Then you get pushed higher up, and blah, blah. There's a whole thing. This is what basically says I don't know yet if I can afford to not linked to MSN. Okay. But I'll figure it out. And that's oh, then we go into that whole ethics right of, you know, selling your sould. I'm just saying I don't think that me not mentioning Amazon is gonna make them pay taxes. But also, I completely acknowledged that. It's not the most ethical thing to do. Just priori my book from wherever you want appeal to my book. My I have another puck is called secret dinosaur cult which I am doing with a Mason, comedian, Jody Mitchell and also drag king wonderful wonderful. Nothing so much. It's a quip live comedy putt Qasr about trauma and daddy issues dinosaurs. And we do live shows all of those shows recorded live in front of a wonderful audience. You can find tickets and dates on the live shows on secret dinosaur called dot com. And you can listen to it that oh wherever you get your podcast. Now, I will let you listen to and enjoy the magnificent KEMA, Bob. Just what people might want to quickly introduce yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Kema bub, and I'm a comedian Pearson. And I'm a person from Merika who now lives in London. Who's like really enjoying that? Yeah. Let's basically the whole gist over. Yeah. Just general comedy numb gnomes idea. I'm also a fulltime comedian, which means the my rent gets paid not on time. Yeah. That sounds about right. I'm just a cute little baby comic home. Well. So right now in your state of mind writes, a today this very moment in psychologically, where I you. I am reeling. I don't even know him me, and I'm like dealing like. So basically. I just I went to Merca for month to visit home have been there for two years. And what's crazy is I thought that it wasn't running away from home. And I thought that it wasn't running away from anything. And then I went home. And I was like, oh, this is why don't live here. This is exactly why don't live here. I keep saying it's for career opportunities. But this is why don't live here. So I was in that this for months, and it looks forward to resting for the month. Because before that I had to deal with some of my flatmate in close friends like issues, she had a very low dip. And so I was like I'm gonna arrest. So we're on the flip side of like two months, a very tough low times and just like twenty nineteen. Oh, come come on baby. What you were fleeing from the. Yes. So basically, oh, God, it just it was my mom's energy. It's kind of a moment. Zayed's very contagious stuff. Yeah. It's disrupting and I didn't like a being at the mercy of kind of the energy of sim one who doesn't always seem to make what I feel a rational decisions and whatnot. But then being at the mercy of them because they still help you financially. Sometimes. So what what would you say that to me? Do you feel still feel like when you go home? Do you become who you were when you were younger a bit. And it's it's gross. But I tried to change that. And literally I talked to my mom about it. And I was like, hey, would you mind when you tell me to do things maybe like ask me to do things because I'm still going to do it. But at least if you ask me, it'd knowledge is that I've? Choice because you're treating me like I'm seven, and she was like you want me to treat you like an adult bed the same time. You wanna ask me for help? And I'm just like, I'm like, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. So I trying to, you know, create growth Butch interesting is love my mom, but I don't feel like she has changed much since the last time. I was there. So it's hard not to get stuck with her Jalle. Yeah. To you. Do you change a lot since last you saw how you said? So. Yeah. So I think so like I feel like my goal as someone who wants to be just hilarious Oprah. When they grow up is to kind of remain evolving like to keep moving forward in my like self-awareness, personal development professional development. So it's kind of like. A constant, you know, effort if you will to you know, you got you gotta stay woke. And you gotta get more woke and that's outside and within yourself. And so, yeah, I feel like I don't do a lot of work. But I feel like I do some work a bit more than my bird mode meld pal mum. And so just kind of painful to just like stare that. In the face into be like, look, I'm trying to reason with you in your like reason, why are you talking about reason don't reason with me? I'm gonna dull you're still not child was this happening. Just came back from that. Yeah. So you yes. Landed on your now. Yeah. Do you think that Memphis changed? You are you do you feel your back to it's weird? 'cause I thought that when it went home his as I was gonna go in my brain. Right. I was like a minute get home. Everyone's going to be super proud of the stuff I've done which was like relatively true. And I'm gonna be reminded that I'm doing really cool things. And then I left the nest and that it's going all right? And it's going to be great. And I'm gonna you know, remember, my values before I left, and blah, blah, blah. It's gonna be a great way to check way. Am it's going to be I'm going to confront my mom of childhood trauma. And that conversation is gonna be tough. I know it, but it might go. Well, and it didn't go. Well, I started the conversation. She kind of shut it down. And I was like we. I shouldn't have this conversation between the two of us. We should have a third party. And we'll trouble funding like a therapist you person or some Unser short notice minnows like we shouldn't have this conversation without someone else. I'll try to think of a different way to do it. Maybe I'll send you an Email or something to which my mom responded by bringing it up randomly for like two weeks. Just like coming home from work and be like, I was thinking about what you said. And I was just like Jesus. God traumatize. Yeah. It'll be retrial. Nobody cares about my background or. Like, jeez. God foundries in. Parents those saw its Ricky one of the not used to having any. And then yeah. Yeah. They must feel so shit on that to be like parents believe shit will suddenly like, no actually still. Hey, I'd like to hold you accountable is a cool. No, I'm the charge person. Let me throw Semenya you in Lincoln plane about how hard it was for me to give that to us that can make you feel bad in like listening to me the west when I when I confronted childhood trauma with someone in my family was it was really difficult to have this conversation going to goes down max Pacific to have them. And I was like really trying to say it in the right way. It's sad. And then I'd set the whole thing. And they said, yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I've done. And I think that's okay. I was like, oh, LA only thing I've not expected was for them to go. Yeah. Yeah. That was planned. And why and that's what it was the whole. Oh, yes. Those exactly what they've done it gives you a little glimmer of hope all self awareness. And then like, I think okay, all right to fix. Oh. Thanks. Yeah. Oh, wow. I thought I'm so sorry. No, no, not the case. That's always a refreshing. Original too. Yeah. Yeah. And like who wants to be bored? If everything went, according to plan left will be so lame and unbuttoned busy. She was so nervous about it. It didn't eat for like like my head is tied to my stomach in the first few days ago at home like I was barely eating at all. And I was like it's the plane flight. No, it was impending this conversation that I knew before. Oh god. Did you have? Did you find the time to do it? Did you wanna do it immediately? What you really like, I think it was like we we did some niceties, you know, and then we'd just like reading in the car to head to like, the DMV or something. And I was like this is a this seems like a good time because I brought up a mini chunk to her before ever went home. And I was like, hey, do you. Remember that time you entered man to some weird child talent show that I was too young to comprehend. And then got mad at me when I froze onstage in Chagos. Yeah. I do I could've killed you. And I was like I know I felt that in that was like I feel like that's kind of the source of like the like performance anxiety at experienced to this day. And she was like literally she goes. Oh, sorry. I traumatized you which does it sound like an apology really isn't isn't that suck casting? Or is that it's it's a defensive. It's momentum kind of person who if you bring something to her today, she'll throw it on the ground. And then when you turn around she'll pick it up in like, slowly, check it out and maybe come back to you in a week. And be like I was thinking about what you said. Do you think you need something from your mother in order to deal with the trauma, or do you think if you can't get it ever if you can't get it to deal with whatever you think you can? Still progress in your head. So interestingly, I think I did initially think that like because basically the situation is or has been a grew up with like a single like semi young not like super young. But like not old enough to be like I've thought about parenting. This was definitely my idea to have this child like I'm like a miss birth control pill baby right till like an asshole dad who like exists, but is absent emotionally in occasionally financially. He's would are you want from me? I'm like more. I don't know laugh like a whole bunch of stuff. And so my mom also has a bipolar disorder, which as do I like growing up I feel like she was going through so much. So it's like, you know, I give her grace in whatnot. Am not coming and saying, hey, you are so bad. Bed the same time between physical unlike more, so emotional, alike, abuse and manipulation and stuff. I just feel like it just wasn't fair to me growing up like, my least favorite example, would be a emotional manipulation would be her getting upset, and maybe I feel like oftentimes these things started outside of me. And then we're brought home, you know. But so her being upset with something and being hurt. And then saying Steph like, well, I'm gonna go for Dr maybe I won't come home to who. Does that does that and said these are the things, you know, the trying to dress both talking to a friend of mine about it so weird and like perfect this conversation. It was so needed. And she was like I recently tried to talk to my mom about some stuff. And she wasn't receptive. At all. And I ended up begging therapy. And what I learned was that. You may never get what you want a feel like you need from these people. But you don't need them to do this work. You don't need them to work through this stuff into get through it. And you may never get what you want or feel like you need from them. But you know, maybe you don't need it. And so your healing and your recovery and you're getting through this does not hinge upon them. And that was great while. Yeah. So I was like all right cool. I can do this. And maybe I'll bring it back to her because I'm still Noida with her. I'm still Nord with her and I still like to get some of the behavior especially on the emotional side is carried on to this day. And so it's still like to call her out yet. I'm like, maybe I'll do it when it hurts less freaks me out lesser. Yeah. Yeah. Or at least when and then it's mo- base. On the future like house. How do I want to answer the phone when you call? Yeah. And allow yourself to not answer it when you can feel guilt a sham any other kind of lying. I probably should that home in. I think the grossest part to me of the whole thing is realizing that the way that we interact in our relationship, and my being a caregiver for someone who's a dealer with all the stuff and also kind of bending for someone who's doing all this stuff. How that's carried into like some relationships into my dolt life. I keep making really strong willed friends. And then I find myself, I'm not a follower. But when someone just really wants to lead. I'm like, I'm easy going. I'm one of those people would ever. Okay. And then it's like so much. Okay. So much whatever. The now we're not doing anything that I wanted to do. And I'm just starting to kind of realize that more and more and. So I'm like a need to go to the source who is the original pushy woman in my life. Well, you know, when did it all by Paula? How does that manifest itself in your in your life and in your brain? It's interesting because with pissing me off at present is that of ammonium mood stabiliser in. It's cool. I got on it because I've felt like I was having a reckless moments because bipolar notes characterized by periods of mania appeared to depression. And I kind of felt like I was having these periods of recklessness, which I think was mania for me. And I also have these moments of awesome idea. Asian like in them, I would lose my motivation in focused and not be able to follow through. And so I was just kind of upset with that. And by recklessness. Am in stuff. Like staying all up all night doing Malia, n- shrooms and then driving home. What like yet recklessness? I don't know recklessness. And so that was just kind of bugging me. And besides the fact that I was like semi put him a life in danger here in there. I was just tired of being disappointed. So it got on these men a couple years ago, and they've been cool. But was pissing me off is that they're made to kind of. I thought there are made to level you out in like keep you in the middle. Not too low not too high. But turns out there focuses on a unit going to high because to this manufacturer to whoever mania has more dangerous than depression, and whatever I found myself in the past like years so experiencing like barely any highs like no highs, but it's being really low. And so now, I'm freaked out because I'm like, do I should I look. Into an antidepressant. And like, apparently, if you have bipolar disorder, you not meant to take antidepressant without like a medicine like a taking mood stabiliser because it it can have like the other effect, which is I guess keep you from being too low. But thank you go to high. And I'm just like what? And it's freaking me out thinking about medicine in trying not to be like, I I don't I want to be Medicated with the goal of not taking them forever. That's my goal. You know in like different people have different relationships with meds. You know? But I'm like, I I know why started taking this is because I felt like I wasn't managing. And it's weird. Because when I think about like being on antidepressant, I think about a lot of the like horror stories, I've heard basically if people who were like, I feel better I'm gonna not take this. Anymore? And then they feel a right for a second in the like lose their should am like I. Yeah. Yeah. Spy, publicity, is that this might be such a stupid question that something you can is it like with depression where you can get therapy. And then it gets bets on you. Learn to deal Yoon has it. Or is it a chemical seeks to Joe? Mandate. Standing the person that initially gave me my mood stabiliser prescription which America. So we'd with the drugs man when I went in to my mom's like a therapist's office to try to find someone to speak to us. They somehow didn't understand that we wanted someone to speak to and thought that I was coming to get meds. Like, I was like the go-to thing. I was like what how has meds going to help? What's going on here? Where you listen. No one's paying attention. But this doctor was kind of like a mixed which is what I feel like I feel like therapy is still important. But America's literally lemme write your prescription. But this person was awesome. And I like them because I don't like people that throw pills at you. Because when I was diagnosed I was like in denial about my diagnosis, and I. Just remember initially being pills being thrown at midge really generic things and the making me feel really really bad or I thought they're making me feel really bad. But I think I experienced mania in the depression for the first time and so in comparison to what just happened. Yeah. That felt really really bad. You know, such really wary of pills select about this woman was she told me that she was like in addition to these I'm gonna prescribe you yoga, I'm gonna prescrip- you. She was like, and then I think she like should know idea. What kind of person I am? I think you just saw like like young black person in like south LA because that's where it was. And was like, yeah, yoga, and she was like that hippy dippy shit really works. And I was like fuck you. I'm a hippie. Don't come at me take inner city, youth, try yoga and meditation. She was also like eat. Well, and it was kind of this thing of like, you know. 'cause I don't I don't have healthy. Like, I don't move as a person in a really think I would feel better if I would move, you know, engage in my body or whatever the fuck and like meditation and things like that. I think would be good. I think it'd be good to do. Mum. No. But basically, it's you're saying you don't have to be on these forever. And so that's like that was really awesome. And I was like I'll take them. But my goal is always liked to figure out what's going on. Which is part of what I was trying to talk to my mom about because I realized that had a like not like I was like much outta was amazing. I don't remember a good amount of it. And I think those by choice. I don't remember that. Yes. With my childhood, you know, my life. Yeah. I was really gum autobiography Michelle Obama's one. Because the only time I read books is at the beginning of the year when the written by black women, it's a rule. I'm like I'm going to start reading, and then they get through one fucking autobiography, and I'm done, and she was like talking about her childhood unlike such detail in kind of like applying what she learned to what she learned about the world. And I was like what the fuck do you have to the thought of oh other people can remain. Yeah. I was like, I don't know. I could it on stage. Just like, I remember the first thing he has my life sober. People were bit is that. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, nobody really wants to know in detail. Right. Oh, God so weird. So a lot of people who have that yet. I'm just like if I wrote that book, it would literally be like I remember being little and then seeing horrible shit, and then I was older. And I remember the class photo where look sad. Spacing all the photos. This isn't good. This is a good time. No one like, let's not. Yeah. You know, my on a bug. We've so the moment when I took over my life and would like to recall that's my goal is to like work through the stuff and be able to manage better like with antidepressants if it were to get on them. A definitely wanna give my therapy on. I would I would view them. And I do view them in my life as maybe that extra push. Because there are a lot of things I want to do that. I don't have the energy or the drive or the sustained whatever to actually start doing or to heat out doing a nudge. But that's the thing the yoga movement nation on. Yes. It's like, yeah. That would probably be amazing. But and you want to get out of bed food. Yeah. That part that part until like, I would love would love a nudge. A little push something to help me. Rise from where I am, you know? So I can do this work. Yeah. 'cause I don't even feel like I'm in the place to do this work. You know, some something to get an yes, that's why I'm like when did you get diagnosed with t t Niger it was like almost five years ago. It was right before my twentieth birthday. And I will never forget has shag nine eleven because. I was I was almost going to be in the psych ward birthday, which really freaked me out. So basically, this is another thing I'm trying not to blame him on for because she has polar disorder as well. So does my nanna, but to quote her I never let that define me. It was like all right. Great. But maybe you should tell me because it is my family history. Okay. Great. But you're not blaming her. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, hey, don't if defined yourself. But yes. So basically, I was quite stressed out. And also a point that I love to leave out is smoking shit tenor. We'd I think actually like sold we'd at the time not fair huge like financial need just for fun. I was like smoking already in like, it'll make more friends come to my house, and then I'll be able to smoke for free. I wasn't like trying to gain anything like I was just trying to like have weed and not pay for it. And be social love people. I was like the kind of we do be like, yeah, come in. And try some with me, we can all hang out like out of control. So was like smoking a lot bet the same time. I had two jobs, and I was a fulltime student and theater major which is like being extra full-time student because there's always shit after. School like we had six hours a week minimum of additional work outside of class. Whether it be building sets or so costumes audio design lighting design stuff like that in. Then on the flip side if you were like in a production, which around this head break time, I was in a student at production as part of workshop in those those rehearsals are just kind of whenever everyone's free. So that could be twelve to one or that could be six to seven, you know. Yeah. So it was literally like every day. I was going for so long most days I was going from eight to eight which was too much for me. And I think I was telling myself that it was okay because my mom works in like oil stuff. She does like she's like leukemia person. Okay. In. Does like things like petroleum. I dunno. She used to do something with like a jet engine turbines avenue does some science shit because she does sign shit far away has to drive an hour and a half, and she does twelve hour shifts. So hearing this person like break their back or whatever in them financially struggling in being like, hey, I need some help from you. I was like if she can do I better deal. Not the case, not the case, and you have really stressed out. So in addition to like smoking like a regular person, I would smoke inbetween stuff as the substitute for nap. Not a good idea as far as I'm not qualified for much advice. But I would just be like don't do that definitely go to sleep. And I just remember having such a fun like. Z time around that period in having so many sick ideas. The hilarious part about mania is that some ideas will be like unattainable. Maybe. But good ninety ninety five percent of those ships will actually be fucking solid like, except I thought it was going to basically reinvent like, I I think it's like I am do be essentially like I was like me, and my friends are gonna write reviews of movies polluted, like break them down. You know? And when my friends was really into music was gonna talk about the soundtrack the school or in other fan, who's a really close going to talk about the costume design can be sick. And I was like oh that partially exists. Great. But yeah, see, I just remember having this really social time and having my friends come over like chill and everything. And then I think that started to kind of ramp up as I did until one night. I was having my fucking weird idea circle. Which is so hilarious. 'cause I think like I was such a social person. And so I don't know that people are just fucking onboard with me until they're like, yeah. Like outlook. It wasn't like I was like this is going to happen. I literally had a circle of friends in front of me willing to do the music part and the costume part. Like, it was a thing. God bless been like such a just casual leader for oftentimes the wrong shit. And so during the end of one of these meetings, one of my friends who knew that moving out to London with me actually couple of years ago. Like, she called my mom, and she's like Kemah is talking really fast. She's not making a lot of sense. And my mom being the person that she is wasn't gonna wait into the morning to come. And I wasn't doing anything harmful. Like, it's literally my friend was just kind of like, hey, this sounds a little weird in my friends like enter psychology staff in different things like that. And she was just like, I don't know. Just not flag this up with you. And so my mom in the middle of the night. Drove four hours to met house to come investigate which. Was not great that pissed me off. And then that head space all all fucking livid. I was like what are you doing here? She was basically like it's for your own good. And my mom is not the kind of person to handle a situation. I don't know delicately Orwell. Basically, it was like is this a fire? Here's a little gasoline on the fire department of like, I'm gonna put it out. Well at the same time setting shit off a God. And I think it was also in that moment where I was like you. You're a problem. And she was like, this makes no sense. Like at this point. I'm like, no like this person in the back of my mind. Irritates me in frustrates me in it's because of just old shit. You know, and so she was like I'm gonna take you to the mental hospital. In the morning. But first tonight, I heard you haven't been eating much. So we're gonna go find you some food. She took me to fucking Taco Bell. I don't want that does. She got mad at me for not wanting that look through burrito out of. Casual burrito through and my little cousin was there who at this point in. I think he was like maybe like thirteen fourteen. He's my only cousin on that side of my family is basically my brother he would be ashamed of himself today as an avid weed smoker. He FEC in foul. My weed Emma, we'd money from being a we'd salesman and stuck in showed her Oshii lost it. She lost it. It wasn't even about the we'd even though she's so anti she was like where did you get this money and she like freaked out. So I'm freaking out. But also shoes freaking out and into not great in in the morning. She was like we need to take you into a center. So I'm in central Texas, which isn't like a shit hole. But definitely doesn't have killer mental health facilities, then so she's like, we're gonna take you into this place. It was so fucking traumatic. Like, I can't even express you part of my fear of like losing my shit is going to a mental health care place where I have no agency in where people don't respect me like period costume yet. Yeah. That bit that bit where the don't like respect the part that I'm like a human person. Like it was so weird. So I got brought into Adams like the ER initially. And I think what frustrates me about all of this is the basically I ended up somewhere. I actually didn't need to be because my mom couldn't wait to bring me to that place. So it got brought into the ER, and I remember like being like a hospital bed in those like a needle thing in my arm. And it was like a flexible needle is best way can describe it now. So they have it in your. Arm. So that it's easy for them. If they need to put something in there, or whatever. But I felt like there was something in my arm. But I could only see it on the outside. And I was like is there something in my arms kind of hurt. And they were like, no, there's nothing in your arm when I fucking found out that there was I was so mad. I was just like don't lie to me. And listen to me about my pains, the double-edged. So from the very beginning of my experience, people were bullshitting me. And it was just really frustrating. Just like, why can't you be honest. I'm not gonna rip it out. But it is uncomfortable. So if there's something we can do that would be great and just feel like disregarded in like what I had to say meant nothing from the very beginning wasn't great. And they're like only continued. So I ended up being taken to this place called the image, mar which was like mental health and mental retardation thing yet and ended up doing like us. Like, the watch me sleep or whatever they're like observing me a glass window win. And so like on the other side of the glass window or like, a bright ask slides, and then they wanna stay shit. Like, she's having trouble sleeping at the. Fuck. Do you mean it's cold in here in this isn't where I sleep like what will staring at me might not be a weird, man. So weird still go past that, which is where I stayed that night. And then there were trying to admit me into this place in their two sides. One was like the like day sooner. Where like I dunno like stressed out moms go that can check themselves in shit where people like go in like sin themselves, and it's nice and they're like wood floors in. There's like a book shelf, and they're all sorts of games, and there's a T fee. That's not in a glass case. Like, there's all. Also stuff you can go outside a little bit. They have group therapy also to cool shit going on on that side. Not where I was. So because we didn't wait until I think like until Monday or whatever to admit me, I had to go to this place. That was like why in sterile it was so gross. There was like I ended up sharing a room with the pregnant woman who's like a drug addict. And also had something else going on mentally. And she was so fucking loud and issues are are saying that just like Jesus lady fucking cigarette who have anything why am I here? There's this man who is speaking out loud to himself in English and Spanish, it was a lot. I met people who were there because they like attempt. Suicide in like all sorts of stuff that I wasn't ready to be around, you know. And so that within itself was traumatizing people were handing me pills. I didn't know they were there being difficult about splitting to me what they were. So when I met with the person who is like posted give you like counseling assess you whatever I was like, by the way, taking these bills. If you don't take him, you know, you're like, I don't know disobedient or whatever because the people that work there were more concerned about their job being easy than you having a quality of care. And so once I told someone about that than the game me like these pamphlets, I'm flicking reading these pamphlets because I'm just like you're not gonna just feed me stuff. And so the really weird time there on that side. And I met someone else for my college who's really stressed out. I think she was like a like BioChem major something like that. So. So stress and she was like, yeah. I thought I was Jesus. And I was like that's wild. 'cause while I was having my mania. I thought I understood what it was what it meant to be Christ like will of ood kindred spirits such an adventure. And then I got diagnosed by this asshole, Nim, Dr blades, Dale never forgive this Dick's name. And he literally I was like I forgot what it said to him. If it was something like you have like, I have a lot energy or something he goes yet. Well, that's because you're bi-polar, and no one ever said that to me before in the to literally what he said in it was like still dismissive in like throw away in. I think what pissed me off about. It was some of the other people that were there. Besides the like white person who also went to my school who's also college student at this nice university this in that besides her. I felt like they really didn't like care about us in the reconduct. Like, I literally felt like a needed to be like, do you know, what go to college? Who like, I'm a smart intelligent young woman with a bright future ahead of her would love it. If you would act like it like, you know, it just felt so gross. Look a needed to be like classism lead ISM respect me. I go to the school up the street with the tuition so expensive that I really shouldn't be here missing class right now. Do you want to know about Matt SAT scores? Like, this is like someone give shit. And I think that was the creepiest thing about it was just having people like treat you like you're nothing because you're going through a time, you know, and think negate really be helpful. Do you think if you know heard minutes long periods of time how I'm not saying that the necessarily as an alternative? Yeah. This. If you've been stripped from your rights and everything must so gross. I feel like that's disruptive. And I wasn't I wasn't causing harm to myself for others. There's that wasn't for my own good by any means. I had was not, of course, not the same experience. When I told my doctor that I was self harming when I was sixteen. He sent me to a psychiatric hospital like it was like an evening times. So it has goes the emergency department, and I had the same as all these people those men who kept saying he was one on the table really quick in. He was going the fire. The fire wasn't me the fire the children, and I was like this is scary is. Out like, I don't know. Like seeing people who've been were you've yet to go. If you will. That's really maybe jarring or the for me the idea of loosing control myself is so tired of seeing someone else's already lost at the end. There was this other another fat woman she has suitcase as she just arrived. So you can see she was gonna get admitted. I'm going to be for a while. And she was just like she accepted that at. So when I finally got into the guy who going to assess me, I was full. I was in basically what you just did. I was going. Listen under exactly what I'm doing intelligent. I know everything about my childhood signed exactly what I'm doing what I'm doing. Let me handle this on my own. You don't need to admit make us. I got everything under control of them superfine. I'm not due to donate. Could. It's it's not that you don't need care. But it's like whatever is happening here. Lemme fend for myself. No, some of what I've done has not been held another way. Yeah. It's interesting because I think about and that's that's was one side of the thing in my last. I was there for like a week last couple days, I was able to go to the other side. 'cause there were like I forgot like I'm trying to think of what was the whole dep-. But I think initially it may have been that. I didn't sign myself to go there in a mom needed to do it or something like that. But took a while for me to go to the side, and it was really annoying because like. I think if initially I would have been admitted there, I wouldn't have had to go through whoever's checks imbalances. And I was there over the weekend is well when the person who's supposed to check you out to see if you're good or whatever wasn't there to to wait. I just like spend a few days, you know, being like idol in this place when for someone to be like, she's cool to go to the side where people, you know, treat others with dignity and whatnot. And so I spent some time over there where met another girl from my school who was wracked with all this Christian guilt because she felt like she was so blessed, but somehow she didn't love her life, which made her feel worse. Oh that was so fucked up as like, whoa religion. This is Texas is that biggest thing. And I went to I went to a private Christian university is like a Baptist e university. Sylvia was such a thing. So yet in Texas. It's such a thing. I don't know. Why went there? I wasn't even that deep, man. I wasn't even that it was while. I was there. What was like this place is too deep like you'd walk to class in people would like stop you in prayer. Really? Wow. Not a good time. Well, it would be like why are you a randomly praying praying on me? Like, why is this happening? So what happened after a week? So you then you've got to go to the bed to the other place. Yeah. Literally when I say, it's like day and night. And then what pissed me off. They didn't move me over totally. So they would send me over for like group therapy sessions, but still had to sleep on the shitty side with the pregnant lady who was like. Breath. I think she's going through withdrawal probably have some kind of there's an emergency. So then what happened? What were you? Once you got to slid slid on over to the other side for some group therapy sessions that feel like we pretty cool, pretty helpful. I met some other people like why bring up like stressed out. Moms woods, there was like a woman who is just like it's getting to be so much knife three kids like there were people over there who I feel like have problems like closer to what mine were, you know. Yeah. Like on the other side. I remember talking to this guy named blue who had like how this like tough life. This wasn't his first suicide attempt and all this stuff. And I'm trying to talk to him about the value of his life in how his daughter needed him. Not my job, not my place, if anything probably traumatized me more, you know. And so I spent some time there in then. After I was like discharged or whatever. I just thought. I just had a thought which is that Matt dad did not come. Visit me buck you after I left that place. I was told to stay home from school for the next week to rest. They're like dude rest so did in at. I think I like when when I went back to school I met with like, my teachers in the first thing, I think my mom did was take me to see one of the counselors on campus. Who was also kind of a friend like used to dog sit. But she was like a school counselor, whatever so spoke to her about, you know, next steps and stuff are spoke to my professors was like, hey, here's where I went. Also, can we take it easy resolute semester? Yeah. Enosis interesting. I think after that is weird to see the shift in myself. I was look really confident look super hot super outgoing so many friends so many parties. And I I think I came back with so much like shame does everybody know, you know, I know my friends know who did they tell? You know, people will find out did you had sex with a dude really quickly Imelda community at school. So how knew what about this? So, you know, get gossip NIA it's hot gas. It's super hot costs. And so I just remember beating super fixed out in like shame and kind of shutting down a bit. And the next few years the next couple of years a college were weird for me. But like, yeah. The next few years I'd say were characterized by instability, and a feelings that either know to do with, you know, like feeling like a sense of social anxiety for the first time in your entire cheery bubbly life. Oh, oh, so weird to like walk into somewhere that you've been a million times in suddenly feel out of place. Yeah. Just it was really unsettling really unsettling. An also I don't think I like anything that my mom also does or has I didn't want it as I at the label yet. And I'm like, I'm not like her and thank God. I know at this point that I'm actually not that were not the same in that are stuff doesn't manifest the same way or whatever. But I was so freaked out because I was like I know what she does. I know what this does to her. I don't want that. I don't have that in. Oh, no. It was just so much to come to terms with John. So how was it with your? Did you feel like it was it became pad of you, gene? You know that when you have to list of things that I am Mozelle. Did it take Eliza point? But at that point, no in a gave me cement, which I was like. Personally grossed out by because I was like what are these? And then also I felt like the people at the like facility where was didn't care subs. Just kind of like, why would I take what you gave me what you gave me you give everyone because they give you like the cheapest generic thing that they can like throw it the most people in that really gross me out. And I think I ended up in therapy in town, which is actually quite nice into that was cool, but I didn't embrace it by any means. I'd say I was in denial as stopped taking the medication like right away. I win through such dip which I felt like was the result of medicine being introduced to my body for the first time, which could have been a part of it. But also, probably depression. For the first time an edge to remember feeling like gray. Right. And like, I always been like a wonderful rainbow in leg. Now, just gray. And it didn't feel funny which are news a huge problem. Because like what the fuck when I was a part of this lamb as improv troop. Okay. We weren't lame. But it looking back lame. Yeah. We're very popular among like frat people, and like sorority people those were audience, so we'd let pack out the like different theater spaces because a lot of us were theater kids as theater major. And so we pack our auditory charge everybody three dollars and the end of the night. Split it boom income from comedy turn up. I didn't wanna go to her into the show, and I didn't have the language to explain to them. What was going on? So. They started in give shit, and I was so disappointed kind of in. How am I think? Maybe I was having like a gradual decline that kind of like heated up with the whole episode or whatever I was really disappointed in those people for not reaching out and saying are you all right and being Kim with the fuck, I was like, hey, I don't know what's happening. But it was just a really weird time of not having shit together. And then not having my shit together. Not having my shit together. Not having my shit together and just being kind of disturbed Juneau. But what's weird is I've talked to I like since I've been here. I remember initially trying to find my place in therapy through inches. In talking to someone. And I think here they're like two tiers of care or something which is like basic, and then like, you have a diagnosis you need more serious care. And I was talking to people trying to find a place and automatically if you have a diagnosis, then you're like, not basic, dumb, not a basic. But they were like we don't feel like your case. It's like severe enough for this or whatever. And then we will know to do with you and ended up talking to this, dude. And he was like, I don't feel like you're bipolar. But you seem to have a healthy relationship with this diagnosis as far as as far as using it as the Lynn that you view, the world through or something like that. And I was like what? So basically is like you don't sound super bipolar to me. But you seem to feel like that's a logical thing or something. He was like almond trust you, and it doesn't seem to be harmful that you think that this is what's going on. So that. It was really mysterious to me. But he was like you sound like a twenty three year old going through twenty three year old stuff. 'cause my issue would some them been I'm trying to work through all the fucking time. Is I've weird relationship with accomplishment achievement productivity. I think my mom used to like get them dick alive. And be like, what are you doing? Why don't you doing what you could be should be doing? Now. She's not here. I do it which is gross. So what do you what do you think about that? Do you think he could be right, or do you think you don't care if he's riding not at this point which super what's upsetting to me? Is that I feel like I feel like I'm so depressed like NFL like I have been like forever. Like, I when I think back I can remember fucking like silently crying forever. You know? And so it's weird to think about n at this. Point. I know I'm on these meds that keep the highest from happening. I'm so low though, and where the highs at all, you know, and so it's just confusing. I wonder if that one episode was. It's enough to get you a diagnosis is this actually what this is, you know, because really I could just had like a little psychotic break like from doing a lot of shit that could you know, 'cause that or whatever cannabis psychosis as much as I love smoking weed is real it's very real smoke in a shit ton smugness shit on a strong shit, which at parade mass cell phone like that can really mess with your head, especially as a young person. Like, you're not really supposed to smoke a ton before twenty-five because your brain is still forming itself not sleeping a lot of the stuff that I was doing could easily be characterized as mania or whatever. So it's really tough. And it's weird to think about f- Ilic with the with hell America really wants everyone to have a prescription. You know, we're so big on. Pass those pills get those pills. And it's so odd. My mom's segue, therapists, who also does pills a stop doing psychotherapy because she's like she's too many patients. She doesn't time for it. What Mitch okay? You know interest is really interesting is in someone now to have therapist now. No, I need to refer meself through like I cope or something which I think is the thing on the north northeast or something a sauce since I was here, and it was really interesting because not to be like people in training aren't legit, but I didn't fully trust her. I don't think am. But we did do some interesting work with him as CBT's study, which is really cool, and what I mostly want to figure out how to get ahead of bad time. Times. And so we did some charting we did some like fun flower diagrams that were like this is low in this is high in what does that feel like a most interesting in doing all that work was I realized out of a lot more information about low times in low symptoms than high times in all of my thoughts about high times our memories and mostly from that one episode. So I honestly, I don't know like even the times when I was being super reckless. It's probably because I'm a wild bitch. Like, I'm just a youth trying to have fun again twenty four twenty four. Yeah. Yeah. Name let gauche having a great time. Like what's out? What was it was also dating a girl who is feel was dictated tamales? So there's a lot of that going on and stuff happening. It's a lot going on came just trying to learn and then you have thrown into this industry of comedy. Yeah. I mean, interesting fit him I'd say, but the same time if we go if we go pre brain falling apart you girl fits in everywhere. You know? But yet it's I feel like. I feel like anyone fits in. Right. Yeah. You've got a big confident about who you are. Because I think we all know there were all weird. We know that. I'd rather watch. Someone we stage as well. Yeah. Someone who's like we know that though. Yeah. There's no like Why's that guy? Awkward like, no. We're all little awkward like, you know, that don't be a dick about it. And you you have proactive you do do a lot of stuff like just creating your own space you to the producer do that inland. Yeah. Yeah. At offensive color ship. Yes. So it's it's a fuck it up, which FFC not f you see k which stands for color, and that's been really cool as far as I don't know. I feel like I've always been quite like politically minded, but never in a hardcore way like a not like campaigning for Hillary or something. But I am like doing you know, what I feel lines up with the work. I do if you will. So with the films of color stuff for me like I didn't have. A lot of standup experienced in the states. I was mostly doing improv. And I feel like some of the feelings that have carried over from improv which is that is so why in the new go in like stand up off same same. So many dudes in just like how do we not an wanted to build a sense of community, and my friend in flatmate her stage name is Sadie center. And she runs this. Awesome thing called the cocoa butter club. Which is like have so much about yet. Oh, it's great. It does. So fucking good into its cabaret. Showcase performance color, and in one show, you can see fire and aerial and like a faves sword swallowing misset blue. She's so hot and so cool. I'll make on. Oh my God. I think she wants to bone, man. I'm like, please, dude. We can do that. That but there's so much cool stuff going on. And I really liked in. Appreciate it the space that she was building an her audience is mixed up and her acts or a performance of color, and I dig that because I feel like if you're not getting a super white lineup. You're getting a super white audience. And like how fun is that? As a performance color to always perform to like, I don't wanna preach to the choir. But I'd love a sprinkle of the choir every here in there, you know, and also not like, I don't know in floor into notice the lack of people of color in comedy audiences. A lot of the time. It's because people don't wanna go somewhere in b the butt of a joke. You know beyond not just seeing yourself represented on stage like sometimes it can be a good amount of punching down in a lot of people stuff. And who does that end up, you know, landing on. Why would I wanna pay and I see this shit? It's not just an it's punching down will from the perspective of fatness. It's not just the jokes about fat people whose they're saying, they, you know, though, yet people just hey, you know, I'm I'm here. They don't do that. You know, the fat people who are not in the room. Yes. Yeah. That that was the worst. The so many fat people just not going to see it still weird. It's so weird. And I hear a lot of Steph directed at the South Asian people in black people primarily like from comics 'em, just like that's lame wooded these South Asian black people in the audience supposed to do a ha ha that is true. Look, what do you want from people like, oh, it's so gross. So I wanted to kind of create a space where like fims of color, which like fims such a fun term and went to LA and one of my friends who's like quite woke like she's letting next shoot like almost joy. Joined the Brown berets, which is like the like Latin next version of the Black Panthers in a in LA. But then she found out that there were quite sexist, and she was like can't be a part of this. That's how she is. So she when I was hanging out with her 'cause I named it films of color because I didn't want it to seem like it was about women per se, especially as a person who's like Penn sexual and whatnot. Like an who recognizes different like gender identities and stuff I was hanging out with her. And she was just addressing like stems as fims. And I was like I love how blanketing this is like in. You know, if you're not don't come into Email wanna do this show? You know, if you're not, but yeah. So this is really don't buy wanted to create an environment that doesn't center white dues. In fact, does the opposite. And when I launched the show it was doing token act. So the token non film. I'm of color, which was fun. We had some folks from the lull where come through as it by first token was khloe peds and shoes like this is such an experience. And then I had like dude it was blackmail comet called moon. Ella Gabu so funny, and he was like I've never been to somewhere, especially comedy show where I feel so mail, and I was like this is what? Yes, welcome to the club. Those shows just cool to like create the space and then to see audience members who usually don't go watch comedy because they don't feel like it's for them for them to have a place as well. That's been really nice to have performance of color say that they've never performed to an audience as mixed as that or tonight's tip perform two faces that look like there's a while. It's it's all of that in it's weird because I'm like, I'm not. What were the like, you know, what I mean like in? It's such a simple. It's a simple idea. It's a simple concept. And it's really interesting to me that it took an outsider to make it happen. Yeah. But I feel like. It's kind of I feel like it's a through line in your whole everything you've sets up until now is so I think if you have a tendency to demand just space sounds a bit. I think. But you know, you are. I think when people go into the psychiatric ward, for example, they I think most people will just kind of accept the place that being given. And I think that's a natural kind of humor to do like that. Wait. I do have a ton of me where a lot of people just tend to go. Oh, I guess I don't have a ton of meow kale. Just leave it for a bit. And they big on not what it is. But what it could be? And sometimes what it should be, you know. And so for me, I think it's very important to not just accept the world in certain situations as they are. Because if you do that, that's how they're gonna be, you know. Yeah, it's amazing. I want to ask you the last question that I always ask K. So you're in the hospital, you're in the delivery room. And yeah who have just been bone. Oh shit and you now a holding yourself? Yes. A tiny babies tiny KEMA shit rioting 'cause she's terrified seven well terrified of all the lights and sounds because that wasn't in the room. And now every seems like what's going on out here? What my life wo- loud. And you know, how the next twenty four years of life is going to be Endo this going to be. Shit lighting sound, but it will sound you cannot change anything. So you can't give advice. That's yeah. Yeah. But you can say something to this tiny crying KEMA about how life is going to look at these up until this point what we say teeny tiny baby you. Heavy. I think I just be like speak up, you know, speak up speak out. And lean into lean into your voice in many ways. 'cause like growing up of tease for how it sounded. Whether it was sounding why or having a squeaky voice. Oh, when I tell you have grown into it. I've grown into it on the flip side having opinions or talking to people about how they make me feel or how they treat me. It's only in the past few years that I began to be honest with myself and other people that I've really felt I don't know like a value me or like proud of who I am. And I think I've spent a lot of time allowing situations in things to happen. Like, smallest example, I've stopped dating people. I feel like I can't talk to because if you're going to make me feel shit about my feelings in should be with you like that that part just speak up speak out. Yeah. That part. In one day. People will give you money for it. Not enough. But hey. Thank you so much whacking people. Find all of your what you get. Exist in little bits on social media. So on Twitter Instagram at chemo's voice because he got to lean into baby show Sandberg bitch. Thanks and fem Carlos. I am. So the themes of color FOMC, fuck it up comedy club when a name this can defend on Facebook. And we do monthly shows at the Phoenix art club. And yeah, the goal is just to get more people involved. More new comedians of color and just to kind of be the change. You wanna see type vibe Eunice change the system from within baby? He has. Thank you so much for doing this stance. Who had me, man? 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"I'm Derek rate. Back to another episode all. Expec back again, we're back, but. Your friends Slim's. Me. Okay. Got it. Hey. Guy. Welcome to another episode of mostly let. We back. It's twenty nineteen. Cabbie anybody who's new as I'm rice her feet on nineteen so late to them. We said it would be sometimes it'd be like that sometimes rest, relax. Give it read. Also excited to be back and recording messages that way, and you when you have his back, and I just be like soon soon soon soon, but now back and I'm really excited for everything that God has installed for us this twenty nine plane. It's gonna be great. Everyone's. Eighteen. Festival actually have been speaking quite a few people and twenty eighteen was a scenario. It was it was really much Alex drought. Took me died grew like diving came with rebirth. Yes. Like, a Phoenix a reason for the ashes we go we come back. Folks, legit because. Eighteen was the yield on my life. I have to follow. We're live. Sorry. So we've cut up new year. How did everything kind of that come January because we have a house? Okay. So basically, I took a thirty day free trial from January twenty nineteen. Yeah. I've I'm gonna subscribe to this year. Salon new ways gonna do for me. And so my son today free trial of January and did and I thought yeah. Like, it's going to be a cool year. I've had a few weeks, actually. And in that time, I've just been able to spend quite Bill time by myself, go to therapy. Like I obsessed with Rb right now. 'cause I'm all about insurance that my mind is clean and correct. And it's so weird. I never was like that that person like I thought people whoever the obsessed with the call where bit lame. I. I was just a bit light over you'll sell and now fem I need peace. I need I need. I need to relax. What's his name? Remember that Jack on the on the space on the on the thing. The little kids. But yes, we tried to do what do you mean? Oh. His piece. Yeah. Twenty nineteen this January for me. Anyway, has been very much soul-searching. It's been a complete realignment of. How I think and who I am. And I've I've become very disciplined because Twenty-eight teen. It was boundary. Lous completely boundary. And I went through so many changes as you goes. Whoa. No. If you visit the pasta pursuits. I was just a recommend. But I needed to six months to Icee breakdown to comeback together. And now coming back together. And it's it's actually really really good really happy. How about you? What have you been up to? Reclaims seeing I've been trying to keep my head. The discussion about ten piece kingdom kingdom of peace. Kingdom of peace and literally bit in my room. Looking at my vision board. Because I've been cold and believe in trying to just figure out what I'm doing. But yeah, like, I'm just really ready always as I mentioned in the last episode in back in December. I'm just out here in trying to just get Pechiney opportunity. Yeah. My my monthly just out of sight. So that my blog up running guys. Paste. Everyone's do every Wednesday and choose the evening. Regal. So check it out. Doing time. Basically, we eat have like coping mechanisms. Kingdom of peace and my kingdom of peace. I was discussing yesterday is basically a fortress and early sets people vetted, and the vetting process is very very rigorous and rigid, and you can't get in. If you're not vetted outside of the kingdom of peace, Arkansas. Hang you. But just understand that deep, and I'm dyin forever. Is that you're to bring? Because eighteen everybody is mad. Included. To have to be very aware of just things and everything that's going on the control the boundaries and doing. Empowering like if more people so many people do this. And for me, I always all you know, why they're off that really. They're just protecting that peace and as somebody who's like an open mooned when it when it's like with other people, I really just allow so much because I'm not I must feel everything. And I'm just like new, I don't so you know. Take your stress and put it outside of Makita it. It. A piece. Right. So. He's pretty peaceful. All right. Okay. Let's so this week. We've caught several inositol was the end of the show if you want like just keeps keep together for the right? We're going to go on this week. Categories. Interesting taking you guys on them on a revamp. Do we shop changing things around? Yeah. Okay. So I mostly news. Thanks of the. Of the risks to do that. I had to I had to. News. I run through some of the some of the stories I say this week and. Onto. About this whole scene. What's going to jettison lately? Calls literally cost. Vice media laid off two hundred fifty workers from the. From the news. It has been doing that was becoming to slash and slash. Hopkinton post everything. I and in time it's quite precarious space for journalists. There are so many unemployed. Everyone's trying to. Big jobs natch, maybe knows where they go into in. They're going to be doing. So obviously like in the world journalism. What is the one driving force? That is doing this restructuring. What is the underlying issue that news houses face that means that they need to lay off like nails people to be honest like money money time? I don't think journalism as the minute is sustainable because they are so. Stories on my Instagram page and ask if you questions newspaper Daffy dolls. Week times. What did people should be by newspapers anymore? But. Twenty forty pencil is that like? Back in the not the sun was I penson cheap back in the day. But they were just people who buy papers. The prices of risen. So we've got the guardian anti-hunt twenty why when I can go online and read it for free the times. The cheapest tabloid newspaper with the most content and like you're going to get like a conference look at the news, probably the mail, and I seventy. People aren't gonna buy the Daily Mail because obviously, it's quite. Precarious people. So the times a paywall subscribers and all these different things up. So do you have to be subscribe times online to read audible at schools independently same with the financial times telegraph and someplace, but there's money into it. I think that it's a question of online media sustainable thing for journalism because everybody would want to go online. Then if if newspaper just slashing like, no one's buying physical cookies. Still other something quite traditional and almost outdated. The fact that we still have physical newspapers personally a welder so digital right now. I think it bodes well for news houses, they could use houses. He's the publishing material. I think it will vote. Well, for them to really invest in their own line content. And if that means you have to pull up a payroll and to subscribe that is definitely needed because legit. I don't read newspapers, however, like back in the day. So I used to read the metro like every single one. That nobody metro metro is banging estimates by concise. I'm gonna get the I. Oh, I for the I. Is quite is independent voices. Concise. Everything's kind of like to the point where you want sometimes with the times and the kind of a bit by bit complicated. Sometimes too long. She's the I have we'd like journalism currently is the fact that I write and I write for newspapers. But I don't consider myself a journalist. Okay. I haven't been trained in the autumn of what not however, there are like certain stories, I see like a seasoned journalists. The are less about reporting, which is what I think. The the profession is reporting news reporting facts, all troops or holding up debates and challenging weld views or whether it's investigation, which is why I think I would actually love okay know. I know team. I know. But however, the things that I see right now is reactionary content that is opinion filled, and that's cool coming from influences and bloggers and people who want to write their opinion somewhere. But how do you feel about that with seasoned journalists doing is up like something that you go into a life? Right. My opinion, and I'm still journalist or is it that I am a reporter news. Profession. It's quietly. It's interesting because you go into the profession to be a news report. This carbon trained. One of my opinion. I'm gonna put my opinion on. Within the profession. It's like you start news. I said then as you build up your career when you get to a place. We can start writing features these opinion. And that's kind of how you build up the career before you kind of stop just lending your Pinon quite a bit. Everyone can just run in there and give it I don't think that's just kind of like it's a generational being as well. Because of like, we entitled. Tell you what I mean. This. Opinion on everything. And I'm like, you know, sometimes it's just. A matter of just standing because the people that actually have trained to be journalists going in should be country. -cations everything like that. But you have to do a stint interest news three years and like. We just want to be music, and that's fine. News as well. So you've got the news. And then you go into investigation. I would love that investigation. One of those career parts in the. So you have to. The state of gen. Because everyone's scrambling for jobs about the pool. Yes. That. Is administration of administration who like they've money again, they pay their freelances. Respond to reason. All right, cool next. Bit of new I want to say, let's put lose. News talk around. The books received donations totaling twenty five thousand pounds. Commitment to diverse and groundbreaking publishing. They received twenty five because what they what they. What they're planning to do aim into twenty which is writers in twenty twenty. And it says the guardian says people unnamed individuals has turning to twenty thousand pounds towards an independent publishers initiative to publish twenty which is right is a twenty twenty in the normalize writing is in the UK. And this is an amazing amazing because a lot of people within the industry needs to start kind of taking continuity for money with the mouth and good. And we see it with publishers let Naito and whatnot reading the one. Yeah. Because the one percent when when that out. Because he really have like people know the stats in front of them destroyed that like. Books. Children's books are. The minority writers and had those characters with it. It kind of shows British brace time four publishing media is. Just all over the place. You can have so many panels own these kinds of diverse t- issues. I which I'm very tight of like, it gets the point where you're like actually you need to start putting wiggle about your money where your mouth is and actually invest in these rices. I mean that actually reminds me of nights off eight Andres. Is. Actually got like nearly fifty K bookshop during your pop-ups across the country. I think penguin matched fun. Fifteen k so congratulations Deva's mall. Just amazing. Doing even bookshelf. It was just great. So nice. Interesting. And this mother came in with us on like one. And looking over his books, and I would just talking. The baby out here. He was. Different books because it's a whole new generation of thinking, especially when it's a new generation of children being born all the books that we can just. Normalising? So they can just see boss three. Oh, boss difference. 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There is no way you should get out that from time when lawyers get like struck off the Ray if you'll bumping train. Because like what she got. It was in the court this, and I always a funny funny in for like. Like really trying to just trying to come to up. Queen also the Queen either way of live think about just before we go into the rest of the week. Illness. Reckless driving. Beck and his collar days later. Yeah. Cruising down the street doing. I mean just saying thing because we think he'd be clean might just catch us. Catch us. I do think that there was another woman in that car. He was injured, and nobody even mentioned until a few days later or a few news articles later, and it just goes to show. The fact that we value this mandala of who's on the verge of death on the prospect precipice of the officer life anyway. This pull young woman because of status and the ranking society that he holds and Matt stone. A new range over the next thousand to paint for that me. And you broke me. And you alawradio we earn like one billionth of that. Amethi? The rights when I own a Rolls Royce in Buckingham Palace right now have wreck these countries. All right. Cool anyway. So we're going to do we mostly us guys? Give us any articles of interest is more. Mention us. Conceive. I can get out of it for the next week. What you read in this week this week? I can't say I'm reading the Rosie. Effect ship taught mine. Oh. It's a cool. Grain Graham, Simpson's I is it since I always pronounce his name wrong, the Rosie product featuring obviously protagonists don't tell room, and he's now wife Rosie and who's like announce that she's pregnant, and it's all about learning sort of house become a father protocols, and whilst also helping his philandering friend, gene. Yeah. We say living and guys. So I've also been reading why she listening because I now an audio person. And I started with something very small actually just because I wanted to ask haven't read much bell hooks. And I really wanted to be LA. Let's see what I've read some things. But I wanted to stop like I wanted to really get into pokes just to see like politics and stuff, and I've started something very very small audio, and it's really good for like everybody who wants to maybe understand the foundations of feminist theory thought and criticism, and it is a book so small small small tiny, but called feminism is for everybody though. I have the Bill. Yeah issues without. Yeah. Door futile things just from the title. And it's yes, passion politics. I've been this interesting. Everybody. Like, I was reading on the street. The tube and whatnot and a lot of the content because I'm reading some Stockton thinking about it. But then to have women coming up to me like oh doing you done that you read in this like common common crop like why? While you praising me food reading. The issue. Yeah. Criminals. Privilege. You for reading. Yeah. I'm gonna read it because I'm interested in. Even in the book when she talks about how white women when they taken on board feminism in the fact that it's technically that intersection really isn't there, even though she was it didn't coined the term into sage ninety by seen in aspects in which she kind of touched on the issue with regards to white women fighting for their rights. Amidst the same time as the civil rights movement in America web. I guess they were very much triggered by the fact that weight of black men will have more rights than us. And so there is essentially just a lifestyle change in that we want to be able to be the same as men, but however still oppressed those beneath us which include black women, and so this lifestyle feminism whereby it's not reading feminism because are oppressed party underneath you that you are basically saying take all of my luck, take the. The inequality, and the fact that we don't have have reproductive rights. We have them because we are white women. We want to be closer to white men, but you are still an underclass of party underneath there is still an underclass. And when she spoke up by the book, it was really amazing everything that so. Yeah. And if you also reading becoming by Michelle Obama while listening to actually listen to her. Yeah. I listen to when I'm on the treadmill at the gym. Her and I'm going to be I realized that Ford you I think is best for me to read listen to nonfiction because obviously I wear I listened to the that we're going to do today, and it's the same because I wanted to highlight, and you know, and have a page to thick back to you. But we've not fiction. I'm never going to do that. It's not gonna read up his back. Fiction. It's completely different. I'm studying so now down to control it's called. Yes. That's those are the things that I am reading listening to. Are you reading reading? David sedaris and heated American like SA right to the terrorist so thing and he's listening and his book holidays on ice. And he's hilarious. He basically writes about. Is it like a Christmas chill story? And it's funny just like about him working in Macy's. Breaks anything something so Monday. I was like Alfie. It macy's. Everybody has experience and having to do a job to do. But he was he was in his days, and he's working. Why? He's working. Why is looking at trying to find a job in this place? It's Christmas time. And it's kind of what he doesn't kind of paints the image of like, the American consumer and American families and mindsets. Christmas. Find it really interesting read really raise a shop with about about the way, he writes. And that's pretty good. That's what it is an ice by David Sadahro reading. Trying to live and it's dragging me every recent. Yeah. The one where this university. Yeah. So it was talking about it because the motion will upheaval. Published fifteen K author Heidi. She is like an editorial for that magazine. And she wrote this novel at night it was. You may. Shit. And I'll look at myself actually, holding time magazine. Fiction magazine. I'm sure she's the whole it's a hefty book. So that game of thrones. This trying to get every page is dragging me. I take my time trying to make my life. Every time. There's always something triggering. Taking somebody with me people are dying. Oh that kind of novel. Cool. I'll read it. I'm. Yes. Pete. I love that unexpected emotional turmoil. So. Read about. Off his top one. And then I caught totally. Kind of new age. He's been around for ages seventy. Old progress sixteen so he's been writing for long time to the teacher as well. And so he kinda by studying feel I wanna say. H anyway. So he's quite he's caught up because he he studied philosophy and stuff like has a perspective, which is really interesting. He's just kind of comment on this podcast with super so conversation to every Monday for ten weeks on his book, and he goes each with three with him. And they take calls from people about the part of the. It's. About just kind of the way that we perceive the world and whatnot looking inwards and trying to figure out what we're doing. Muscles. Just like he's looking at ego. He's looking at personality. He's looking at all these different things. And he moves in the book. Sometimes I'm just like. Just like when he this back to you and trying to win a meeting around. They went to. One of those things, right? Once you start to look I'd see it got to realize when things affect you from sample in the way that you react to it. So when someone says to me, for example at home, all mistreat, and I'm like. Wait a minute actually, always might he bruised about that situation by child inside you that's like what miss now these. That child needs to be protected. Needs to be client to light. When you get. When you parents give you that look. Be quiet. Sometimes that child and keep it woman healthy keep away from toxic people people. Eat your food. We need to encourage. Communication child. When I'm talking to my Matale night. Do you really wanna hold onto that? Always that just I mean. I mean like. Being why do you wanna do? You wanna do? Yes. Those fine. Why you want anyone that was me? I was like I want nice like seven hundred. Say that you want obviously. Girl down not rate thing. Abras then. This is being attached to too many things. Do right? The other day. Folks. Derive missing while you. Why then I realized like. But I'm not why am I talking to you because I used to call it a bit about why? I went down on these comedy this week with this overhead do. You do. Painful. Then is like a piece of blog about nobody touched items. So worrying about this direct. Used to. Do the rival arrive like two days. But say it's about ties to these things into these do, you know what I'm saying attached to? Okay. Okay. It out. So. Attention away. My. Toddlers people. Touch this and my own my f-, my airports. Set. What tash to me? Ooh. That was missing people dying break old Michael dreamt of Kevin people around and they break my teeth. Actually losing. Over huge material like, my laptop or my computer. What to do? So. If you Brooklyn like, upper mini, monk, two miles. Clay. I like broke. Then I'm like, it's clear. What? How is that deep took costs? That's about anyway, I caught Tony and on that's death. Right. So the book with doing this week guys is cooled fresh water guys. I've no idea how to see. First name a museum called and. Yeah. This book is. What is it gonna with it? I want to say actually right with me. Quite a bit actually because I was I'm so lost. But let's tell you guys what this book is about. Right. So essentially. Let me give you guys a nice little nap says. Trying to find a nice little synopsis. Okay. And missy. Can you like find it for me? Yeah. I can't explain tomorrow. Okay. Well, essentially, the book is about this young girl could at right and. So she it's told from the perspectives of the gods that reside inside her. Yeah. And. It's these goals accord aband-, and I think it's from the. Ibo? Hebrew, try. Yeah. The language and essentially like they are these little gods. Just comment just to or how to your supposed to be like Willisch, spirits minutes. Let's let me show. Yeah. So that so basically add who's this? This young girl was born essentially, the it was says was born with one foot on the other side. And this other side, I guess is the godly plane the other plane not reality that we know. So have parents that have like for existence called soul searching, and they've kind of struggled to deal with the volatile of contradictory spirits and people that reside in their young. And when she comes of age, she has the college and these entities sometimes there's too sometimes mold into one of those arise. They grow inside of her. And they almost take over. They have an agency over her, and they have sort of power when she gets salted. And this leads to sort of crystallization of all of these other selves. So there's one of them's called Saint Vincent. Who is? And then. And has its described. He has a spirit, but also body whereas the other two Abban J smoke and. Shadow. Almost magin to one in the end at this point in life. They have they use a vessel. So whereas Vincent kennel these two other gods user as best. So they do have bidding from so she and essentially they are like malevolent spirit. There could Banja if I'm pronouncing it, right? And it is the evil spirits evil, quote unquote, that would essentially in the culture tradition plague family with misfortune, essentially, I think Budgie means children who come and go and love these young to die as young age. So having read this stuff, I was quite confused by. Adele, lived to be quite like, she. She went to call agent star. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Like it really does. Challenge to the question about multiple personalities Jews your thoughts about how he think I'll we all. Like, it depends on new line of thinking, I guess like argue if you're if someone believes him on the spiritual kind of thing like. Malebo spirits and all that stuff. When you having quite negative and destructive ports level at spirits, anxiety these conversations or if you're more scientific scientific logical pragmatic, president is the whole clinical thing. All you, multiple personality various different things inside you. It was very interesting thing to explore just a meta gate within a story. It's actually not matter added is almost another per person. Always. And we're always finding out what is being told to her what is happening to her, but not from habits -pective, she has conversations with these gods in the marble ru which is referred to her mind with the mobile room, and sometimes you literally visualize different people having conversations, and there comes a point in the book, actually where at. Oh, so she's at home, she grows up. And when you when she's younger, she these spirits in these gods are not fully there have full agency. And when she moves to America to study at University College. That's when they start taking thought having walked potency on her life with reality making her do things. But I think also rather than taking it literally. I think the whole idea of multiple personality disorder idea of. Even like self harming because these gods apparently only appeased through essentially their sole goal is to kill her the Obanj there. They inhabit Tuban common. Gotree dive their whole thing is just we need to go back to the other side. But we've over slipped into this well through this vessel. And how do we go back to the side? We have to kill it. And what? Does law is note caught herself others those point in the book where there was a boy, she just moved to America. That was a boy who I think broke into door, and they will everyone have friend was no trying to find him. She went up the stairs to see what the blood was in those point where she did. She just puffing on the blood, and I was like that was. This is this is. A different kind of story. I think just in general with regards to the story self I think it was really well placed in when we when we talk about into talk about different things because I'm not point in the book where? She's. And. Reached up. The there's a where the two Benji took all the to the. Just have agency with the body forms. Thai-chinese just to. Then what do you call it a DJ Dida kind of a member of the name? Believe. The because the go on the tune. The shuttle and something good. Anyway. But then just like, why did you go to why did you why did you tell us? Why what we've been saying don't go back. Finds it. Guys, like one of us have been through those doors, especially when we're we've been to therapy, and how this conversations. You're saying I need to go to. Like your main? I your consciousness people. Because I on myself make or manage this this compensation by myself into talk about it and appointment you put this. She revealed the names of the and one of the. Why does she know? Yeah. Talking about business like missing to me. Don't go there again. Backed up huge control all her spirit. And I think that's a really I think it was a really interesting way to navigate the mythical the most mystical story, and the the real lis-, I guess that's objective, but in nuts, and it's like trying to trying to marry the two I think is really is really interesting which look. Look. Like when you say they were malevolent spirits like they are actually quite often. Protect us. She's in a position where she's not. She's making a decision though, she's actually being forthright. Oh being strong. Takeaway, quote, they take over this ration-, though, various conversations that she's hobby various guys, she's been and, you know, apart loves like the like the discussions about love and whatnot. The we didn't guess who lost this guy or wherever the Angie say that we don't like me, I wanna see himself. I wanna see him go through some pain. I wanna see I did this to kind of like. No character. So she's finding the division between the two between the three interesting. The way how even when with regards to intimacy with men. Sometimes that in a goal do not know what address thinking, and there was a point where so she basically gets this toxic guy. I would say the cells they fall in love with this ill, even Erin. Yep. They they like the sky, and he's very unstable seeing another woman. And she liked the cells reloaded this one because this one was just as toxic as them rough with at will with the cells. And so they were like, oh, okay. Well, when you an said, actually, buy out share. She. The cells to cover they were like, oh, so even the God have sort of Gervais me, and they were really really hugged. And so they went after the older brother who was more adder peaceful. Calm who actually at a really fell in love with. And why found Larry's was once? This whole section has been narrated the gods inside of her turned around and said, oh, do you realize that I was actually in love with with him. Interesting that every lose like, wow. Is really different. They would they really eat the budget. Hell bent on going through this really reckless face with the age that she was in this why this book is really quite interesting with regards to people and how we think in mental health because when she was younger the Obama very timid. They will quiet they were laying low they'll come out once in a while when something happened, whether it's a car accident, or you know, what I mean, whether it's in her mother moving to Saudi Arabia and leaving her for like so many years. But when she reached that teenage bays that young adult phase when you're finding yourself all like, it's almost like the gods were also at lessons. I mean because they were just like they grow up. Yeah. Do you have no inefficient like different try? That's why I said I mean like she's talking about. Pop me, but me. Study. You out here. Me. Pure pure. I think that. What was read? I really interesting about this book is and why I think a messy is talented is the narrative style that it's toll through so in the beginning. It's very we. And and it's told from the point of view of the gods, but as one not like individuals, and then this is when when she's in Nigeria going up with her family and hosts sort of issues she has. Relatives and stuff and what other is moved to America. And the hallows diet starts we get a different sort of narrative oysters. Which is a cigar. Not. Might we literally butchering mobile. Let me however. And then that one is to on a more omens Matanal voice in that way. I'm looking. Coachee protected. I know what's best you'll come and timid, but let's let's make all these decisions. It's fine. And it took on a more passing the gods were almost embodied in this one Pat person. And it was I rather than we and us and you in that separation was very distinct, and it was beautiful the way it happened. And then when the new gods enter those apart where we find out about Saint Vincent who is as I said of a male sort of force. And this is the thing that makes add question her sexuality, but I didn't really see Vincent as a goal. Don't even think he was it was it was almost described as smoke or fog without shape because vincit was unable to take hold at his body to. His bidding. It was only in dreams in at his dreams that Vincent can play and play mean guessing with women essentially, and I think those the point where I even went to a friend who she found vague detracted and proposed an idea quite vague the way that it was routed. But basically the idea was life. Let's let's go do it and the goal about that life. And she was buried appointed and hurt, but it's all of these things that make me think. I think it's not really literal. It's more. So like, how do you handle? I think says in an article in the guardian, but how do you handle and go through life when God's have been placed inside, and essentially, we all have these golden beings and different cells, and we have to maneuver life. These voices trying to protect us and the same time destroy your you know, because of the day. What was the what was consistently said in the book was that? These human beings these human emotion human experiences. So like boring. Say boring when discussing the father, and the soil and Suchy and the development of the relationship and Holly happened, I love and different things child and these human beings, human life or second. Right. Exactly. So inferior. Talking about because it's just like. Was what we need. We need to make this child as we want to do this. We actually living this boring banal existence. Interesting when when Atta moved to the states, and she was missing her father and had cousins and she literally like the gods took over. They were like what's wrong with you? Okay. Fine clip. Oh, you want you want to know why we miss them? This is why you miss the fine. I will fulfill your desire buying feel sad Guedes. Let you make you feel better. We'll do all these things. You don't wanna miss him? Beg you go. Now. Look, you don't miss him. How does that feel great? Yeah. We will do all of these things for you. And as always inconvenience. Which is how they manage that the emotions going through because they want to do is just. They they don't want to spend time feeling what to get. What to get? I was talking about how when when she made love to. One of it's like saying club. To say like six passionately. Yeah. I mean, we're not gonna be letting. Love. When you sit down enter enter into the mobile room nights. And she's like. Three. People and it's really funny because I'm telling you when you have a you have multiple moods. Sometimes it is like, okay, how does the of Wednesday Alex Friday, and we're gonna have like a council meeting about. Okay. So you experienced this last year. Now, we're gonna talk to each one of the alexy's and just figure out. How to learn? So it's quite funny because people experience it and has experienced. Think about balancing these spirits. These goals inside your mobile room like how? Is there a way that either could have dealt with them that you think that all is it, but it's so serious. It's we shouldn't have to take it literally because she she needed. She was. To doing. It was harming has self as a full relief. Like, she hit the gods. Even said like we need blood to be appeased blood is a form of sacrifice we need to be like we need a sacrifice to appease us immediately. Because our goal is to go over the other side. That's why for me this whole book was very much ensured in in in in the idea of mental health. Because I guess in the literal sense there is that traditional aspect of the Obanj -i, and what what people may have believed in the past. And what they've been even now. And I think there's even the idea of actually these children that come and go these spirits was almost like. Unknown illnesses like sickle cell anemia, which will take young children's lives. And because it was hereditary you have children, and they'll get it. And they'll die young and other. They'll get die young. And maybe this is where the idea of the Obanj and the children come ago came from. All is it all is this book more theoretical in. That is just these things just signify as for mental health issues is signifying self harming is a signify signification of pesonality disorders is it just a management of me on the many different voices lash gods that reside in you do think it's a great challenge. Lek, spirituality. Toppy through the thought of. When we talk about spirits. I mean talk about these things and how they are very much ingrained into our life. Like different to the western mindset of spirituality and stuff. I mean, if we think about two and. Would put like twins in the in the forest because they they were evil and whatnot and about changed for history over time imperialism mindsets change and whatnot. It's about trying to trying to kind of like married to figure out that the spirit, the spiritual realm wherever you believe. Your mind. Your thoughts on that kind of impact your human life. I'm a big believer like pas lives in system. I sometimes sit down. What you need today. Because sometime there's somethings that plane. And it's everyone tries to make sense of some people. Choose science, some people don't and it's. Like science a form of belief, and we tried it because there's so much that you can gets displays all the time coming out he series, always changing what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? They kind of married they do kind of whether it'd be like a new chemical imbalance or whether it be a metaphysical reaction to like something in. Russell who said that philosophy is the the meeting grounds for science and religion that spiritual science that come together in the questioning of life, and what we experienced everybody experiences it differently organ and up. In the same way saying to innocence. Then it's quite interesting that this book placed African all west Africans civically Nigerian and then in that the whole category of, but we could take as an overall because there are very very different cultures in in the continent of Africa had very, different spiritual beliefs. However, what I thought was great is that it put these things in the modern realm because when we always talk about African spirituality. Black search Welty if you want to go that and broaden out like that. It's always mixed with the magical, and almost we almost took back as if it's my stomach is rambling. All my God. That is allows big angry. You don't hear it? Bad. Okay. Yes. Basically what we always talk about African spirituality or the whitest black, spirituality. It's always married with with the past or is almost married the magical plane in which we can't even access, and if we do always Jill therefore, it's automatically. It's awesome. Basically has this sinful aspect of it? All just just almost almost recoil. Oh, something bad has happened on explainable. Yeah. Is black magic shooter which craft and why not about this was to take something that was a belief system that could be seen as very magical and placed in the modern day in more than idea in modern day. Western wells. The good side. I mean looking you know asset about ancestry protection? People. Never good. People focus on because even even on the yesterday. I was watching the news on Friday. What chain? Chain. What was it is a fast woman mother who'd been arrested for at the prison and she had like in a spell? In our house to protect from being from being like cut by the authorities over and she was trying to trying to do three org used in. And it was horrible. Yeah. But it's like you've got the spiritual spiritual mental health. What is was the crossover? I mean, it's like you look at anything. How could you do that child by the same time? What kind basing on the book the book, this malevolent spirits inside? You say you need. Why are you not seeing the magic fast sanity? So it's just that. The question is who knows he knows? Knows these questions, right? I really like the marrying those two wells actually over to sort of magical. Andy, the modern because we don't have much more magic, you know. And if it is it's not very it's not in a book, and we it's not from a perspective of that. That's spiritual being. Yeah. I really like the book. What did you really did? Oh different than narrative. Beautifully written. Amazing long sentences, which are very Tony Moore Esq. I think she does it. More than long sentences like superfluous, beautifully crafted sentence. I language. I mean, then I was very very very very important. And in the way, that she did it was it was very specific today to the story give it, and I really really enjoyed listening to in particular because I ended away. I really wanted to read some things out, and I just didn't like getting like, I couldn't write it down. But yeah, he's did it about it. It was intense intense items. Ving mad completely. On the way describing sexual acts the way that describing. The light the bleeding the blood constantly thinking about blood itself. Thinking about it. But it's on the pushes through one of our bodies like blood itself. But for obviously for women, it's a huge part of your life as women so. That kind of thing obviously, the real impacts of having relationships where. They men are using women's bodies as cels for various things, and it's like. Relationship with. I'm sorry. Ever trained. Dana scott. They were very very like toxic relationship, obviously control the particular things. And but I kind of like what he just become something. Him to us. Yeah. It was very visceral. Very very intense. Am so populated into that was like. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was a cringe. It was more discomfort that kind of had to be okay. With the close reality for lot of people win. And. She come across deal bungee in things for partially in. Know one of his daughters on encima who actually. All of all of his children with dire. Infancy, and she was the one that kind of stayed of back, and she was referred like people in the community think that she was one of these spirits, but actually to ask you something about which I found really interesting you listen to this book, and it's about the African American and the black African American and the. Black person outside of America and scope and interaction in this book when? Adam moves to the states. She goes to a college and the African Americans kind of welcome heaven, and then they straighten her hair and Arthur, and then they realized that she's a bit different because she listens to Lincoln park. And she's not African American essentially, she doesn't that's not a culture, and so she actually navigated to the crime allowed my stomach rumbling. She navigated more to the international students. Whether they were black on black. And it really just raised up. This question of how African Americans and how maybe as a black African all black Caribbean. How this communication with the DASS in America is almost. Mod because we just so very different on different. And obviously I've seen discussions on Twitter in other places where African Americans think they invented black culture. And whether they'll get mad at the fact that black British people playing African American people in movies, and there's a whole big discussion of that pasta goals and how we just do not understand. I do believe that which is do stand coming from. And people that may be were not enslaved or people that weren't saved. And then. Resided in the Caribbeans, etc. So yeah, I wanted to that was a disparity that I think a messy was making that point very clear in that series of different type of blackness when we talk about these different identities and being black African Caribbean and African American for sure. Stories to need to be need to be enough it last awhile. Really happy about these people from the dice Boric. World writing more of these stories next the office. Jamaican and this book fresh water, what are those books like the make they make it clear that you can be in America. You can be in the UK, but not be British and not be American. And it's really, and it really kind of opens the gates discussion and other things that we need to discuss. Because if you if you want African in America automatically assumed to be African American. Deta disruption in thinking. Also, very different black African American. So we came and campagin, for example, she's like because a western. Phenomenon dice does nothing to do with where she's from in Nigeria DC. I mean, like, it's not it shouldn't be if. A problem. Kate that to like within our own communities because currently. Taking it outside. I get my question is more like a communication between the different identities of the fact that being black is not this monolith. We are just because we are black. We do not have. We don't have same lives in cultures upbringings. And so I do think that outside people when maybe when we are pulling on the world front and white people who look earth and other black. Although I definitely do think that why people are much more smarter than they actually portrayed to be. And it's just on purpose. Literally lightness, you know, chess shades nine. You like, you know, you'll just being stupid because you're lazy. And that's what you used to be. You know, everything just needs to come easy for you. That's not how do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean, if you wanted to love you learn in snow that hard to understand that there are different types of people. There's different ways to be back, essentially. And I think that we as a community Lisa we as a community different communities within blackness needs to kind of understand that we're not the same. But then it shouldn't be that. We should be officer sizing selves because I do feel like the college students the African American office ostracized away 'cause they were like, wait. What different just because she too. Black Ashley in black black back, but they're not the same time. I even have a problem with that. Because what is it to be black in America? As an ethnic t. Ethnishity rather than just the race said likely mean African American culture. Sade say, you're black. You really embody African American coach from the dice. Berg point of view in black is the race. And then ethnicity is. There you go. Because in Africa, we're black, but we we are from different countries. We speak different languages. We have different cultures have to for food Jami. Whereas if you go to America. Southern food all food is just African American ideal. Yeah. True because you can have food. The southern is also a lot of people in the south to today, have particular culture. It's a really really hard to get into. I guess. Definitely I think about these interrogate that we need to continue about because if we don't live in this constant state of madness. What's going on? With that you some of the golden side, you sit down near mobile room, and you have a conversation with them guys. Sometimes they'll have you doing madness me. My God have been vetted somebody outside my kingdom of peace. You know, you you you you. Split. I did go and see glass, and I really enjoyed. What's it freaked me out? What is he not incredible not like phenomenal? Basically if you haven't seen it. It's my favorite James McEvoy Twenty-three personality Goater personality than he does them all just a number of tickly favor. Patrician? Scares the hell. Get ahead. We give it on your own boy. He didn't give me now. He's putting tweets. He's scared me. He's scared me because he when you haven't seen in. Them in. Scene where the goals up. Door doing then go ahead. Live in. Scary because it's a grown man put trading young. If it was a young boy in the. But it's a big, man. Mr. tissues amazed is scarier with puncher and the beef. I never by the beast, actually, physically changes. And I think that is dominos the fact that how whatever is in your mind manifest in your body. I thought that was just watch split up. I can't specifically. I can't specifically. All right guys that moves swiftly we discussed fresh water by a quick amazing. It was out. If you're like me, then you have two types of stuff in your home. The stuff you use and stuff you used to use. You know, those shoes that just aren't you anymore? The old phone hiding in a drawer somewhere. So why not get rid of it and make some cash while you're at it by listing it on Macari the selling of recurring makes it super easy to sell almost anything and all items ship. So there are no awkward meet ups selling ship it and get paid with Macari. Check Macari out on the app stores or on Macari dot com. That's M E R C A R I Macari the selling up. Last year. Feb last air base. A really interesting burger. Women's clicks. Now. Interview with boots Riley into show. But before we get to interview. Introduced obviously similar to what we didn't want to do. If you've been watching on. Of feel free to say what you guys have been watching. I've been killing off Netflix. 'cause I really really just. W for education. But is it really good people talking about tonight is pretty very good. It's very well written. I think is where written portrayed the only thing. I would say is confusing. We'll be of you are nice partition any American. It's in. The school. School's name is in school, college and the credit is very Americanized lockers jackets uniform not. But not not not unwinnable informative school preschools. Allen's. Nope. Not a brisk. When you don't have to wear uniform. Six do its clergy. Six get smart classes in college. Secondary school in government on. America's the college system in the UK is between the ages of seventeen and eighteen sixteen and eighteen so you can leave your secondary school go to to stick. Which is the last two years of. On H senior year. Senior high school. So that was really interesting. But like we lost two kids were did this. I this. It was like maybe do those state as okay, what is the whole thing in? It was filmed in South Wales Wales rolling countryside, picturesque thing. Coming like. In wales. Some people do some people don't. Yeah. I'm. Say it's in Wales. So what is it kind of draws in the American idea, but with the British system, and it marries the two so for example, if we look at something like in between us and skins if be mushed together in between his US in is is really UK what they win whenever we think about the British school system on TV. It's quite it's quite like rain, quite Greg. 'cause that's what is all in uniform base. It contains wherever whereas they have in sex education, which they have like this common rooms, which is what you would in. They have like the seventies. Oh, that's it. Many British by has the American into really very much about sex. Back guy wasn't into the only guy in the show. And he said that he's he stands grace laureate. Who is she? You're watching habit is from that. From that clip. We watch that stuff. It's like, it's an amazing. It's amazing. While watching on. Religiously I. Binged friends from college. I know what to say Alex disgusted report. So basically age in basically follows the lives of even Lisa Sam, Nick, max, mary-anne their friends have it. And then I turn in there, like, forties, etc. And if a mess there in New York and to them big people big people's Ethan is married to Lisa, and so he has been having an affair. We've Sam for the past since they were at UNIFEM since they were at Harvard twenty years from then you also have to swipe and I felt disgusted and they all I was maybe this one's better made Marianne Mariana. Just mad big age putting up his dumb ush to show Dahl so like abstract. They don't even make sense. Of watch them. But your friends like that might and geishas about these the relationship between these five people and. Do you know what? Yeah. It makes you realize that how morally corrupt relationships amongst groups of friends, and I'm like is this people because I like I like having a moral high Ranjini I like be Fakty Monja over pizza, and it makes me feel good. But why are you all mad? Although why you all? Lisa. Here's very to eat, Ethan. Having an affair we found Ressam Sam is marriage to mix. He was not in the group, which is fine. Right now, the anchor. Trumping faces. So today, I'm then, but you got Lisa. He's outage crush crush is Nick Nick super-rich under the trust. Teeth. He needs to fix. Mary is is this way around. This is Matt. How can you fold that? Is my. The best is also he's agents in the right because you know, right to the Matt I've realized anyone. Serious about the writing he wants to he wants to write literature into why the only into why he's like the agent told told him that why is what he needs to do for example. And the thing is like sometimes it's a question on that on that topic. I was like Nassau Ethan a bit more nyc push. Like I love to. I wanna right on. This is what I'm going to do. But people didn't really respect. Well, he's writing. So Lisa is wants a baby. Ethan isn't too keen on the idea. Anyway, should be spoiling. Okay. It's just madness. What happens at the end because it's just often kill it's finished. In a day. And I kept on tweeting about how disgusted I out yet? I would still continue to the next episode. See that's why watching and I'm also actually what rewatching friends because I realized that actually never really watched it from beginning to end. Into the power where and what happened Rachel and Rosa having some issues because they have just had Emma Amazon a year a year old year and a half, and that tasting other people to be all. Chandler and Monica still trying for a baby though. Jerry is still a bit. Jerry your natural here. It's another one literally another one of those. When all the all the all the TV shows about friends that often friends. It's just fine viewed as like nothing good nothing can really much because college is friends with a twentieth. Everything's trying to find any spin on it what the Bank theory their friends in the thirties. And it's like, but it's like that all live together, but they are all in particular professions. Loved it. If. We still about the diversity in France. And how just it was non existent apart from Gabriel union into popped up and the reason episode actually. She was just new on the block. And so, but really like, it's really I really really wanted a canon for black people. But it wasn't was it wasn't as popular like for me. Golfers is my finance our friends with more or less built with living single from limit single nothing because we were too young to appreciate it. Popularity because the nineteen eighties early nineties, and it's the teeth in it. I never watched it. So none of us because because they because it was like a black show time. Then they were gonna get the same contract. Kim coles. Kim fields. All that stuff. And like, you know, I'm gonna get through probably gonna find. But that always went to white women white show is white shows on this kind of giving all this money and production. Every time. I watch I realized so now before I was at China is the funniest one now actually I really liked chill. Rachel funny is actually quite sophisticated in that it's very underhanded. And it's not like at the end just becomes too. Sarcastic. And it's just like could you get any funnier? And then Monica I don't really think is that funny. She just screeches a lot. Want to performance because he is like these limits. Chechen with me. She's Larry's, Jerry. He's not funny when she bit life you time. He's funny. But actually, just you're moving, and then he did finish that also cite the publish. He's trying to fool from Rachel. Live leader and Phoebe is great moments on his choose because she does she come to sense. She called his in ain't not censoring obstruct. Maybe the Marianna Frencham caller, Jerry. Create this these architects. I watched this thing called timeless. Watched. He's in any of anybody should be quickly well known, but what is the at timeless about. Time. Trouble and good. Good stuff. So it's a an engineer. A historian a soldier or commissioned to go in this time, she has been built on the on the government kind of program, and they can time because another time she has been stolen, and they want to alter something in history today have to go back in time and start chasing chasing, this this kind of internet into dimensional time. Celebrate. The historian because she knows like what like what history that go into. I mean, she tells them not we need like these hostile or else. This doesn't happen historic shunning engineer. He's black. He's the driver. The pilot. He's important. He's an employer of road. Because he knows how to the machine works, and it doesn't work. Starring souljah is also important who's next? He kind of has the know how to get around particularly dangerous dicey unit. But I think it's not film to seasons. Nothing is nothing. Nothing is trying to get the rest of the film. This episode. I'm gonna watch this love. Because he's like, oh, we don't time. This literally no place in history in America, which is safe. So you're gonna have to come. I mean after they have to take on episodes, particularly taken a mind, particularly twentieth century mindset and then back saying nineteenth century twentieth. Century all this time. And. Which trials the salvation of ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Chasing this guy who's tried to go through that organization is trying to like destroy for when they're trying to trying to chase. This guy to kind of stop him from history and time. And to our good. All this time and stuff. So. Example, ABRAHAM LINCOLN didn't get shot and it was alive. How I. The the black people in the south because they were freed under the civil civil war now soon as he when he died kind of kind of the people that go into power. They're often often can get really help the slaves is interest heart already by south. And so then obviously led way to link chains all these different things. So when the time that the stock the moral dilemma, do they continue the history outweighs the panel or do they change it? Six. Okay. I found money show. Thank you, the the five. Guys for what men and it's coming in. Don't let no one tell you that black people scum. Nobody's scams of that white man in this twenty in in this twentieth, century, whatever juice. Billy Billy McFarland. All fully came in. And just useless a whole country man lie under the food. What's that place? You mentioned it's kind of hide an idea. We'll fire festival was cheating. Mentioned it mentioned in a previous episode. Database at the height in the Instagram influences like saying, oh, we come to this. Great amazing. Some of them don't even go which kind of raises hoping about influences hashtag I on this stuff which already. Already responsibility of influences how the truth? Paid promotion stuff. I mean. Kylie Jenner was paid a million to do that post to waste. With my anyway, Andy from the show to some bullshit. To do all Andy new team ready to risk. These people. I think it's really just goes to show how like you can read like entrepreneurship is obviously you need the funds, but really you need to charisma because Billy was able to do so much because people just blindly believed him because he is he was somebody that has that he was. He was pot psycho ponds puts the fist as well. And with the NAS assests when you're dealing with that kind of character, you'll really dealing with somebody who has so much charisma wit and chum that they will roping into absolutely anything, and you will blindly follow because of this past knotty trait, and which is what people will do with him. And even in the end when it was impossible and his own stuff where like you'll he was Aruna. I'm interested in solutions not problems because when he would say, and I'm like which nations Billy my man, still went on Android. Discount people out. I also. Stop people actually went. And then people wanted that. We annoying me is the fact that there were people on the island who like wackos native to the island was scammed out of money than hard and Quyen because at this man, I didn't care about these rich people who are paying two hundred and fifty thousand pounds for a bungalow yet care for them Mandokhel. Clearly, you have money to waste, but the people that will whacking to be able to up Hurricane Katrina tents for these rich phone pay come from the money, and and the idea became with the nonsense. And he's like, oh my God. I just had to give somebody my close running hiding like a boot. Live for drama. Talking about you how to go into excellence stronger. You chose me out of is the water is in Miami. And I will go to Miami. That's what I'm going to say. When they. Scams when he's made in somebody and house apartment on bail for scamming and you're coming whilst on bail. Village. I need in this life because really confidence. So basically, I think he's like he called Haley one wash. Link. I'm gonna watch okay? Here. I think it's just that you know. Scam which people are the money. You badges know that they got money to put lime annoy are just understand came like how many minutes of commensurate now or so in the comes through. How's that? I'm suing you those one percent in somebody somebody somebody. Compensation? What's Billy doing? Now. These liberal. He's a rich white boy, he's probably. E cannot be at our company. I think it's legal in. Give every trustee. Just it just ruins. So that's what we've been watching a haze. Listen to the amazing ready interview about sociable. And enjoy. How's it going where we're good? How are you? I'm good actually doing. That she is a few weeks ago Biden if you remember the fire the drinks section. The total total gangling we asked you all about your like time hair. And how you love south London. And I think it was pack them. Oh, talking about the first time. I went there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Cool. How's everything? Now. How's everything going? It's going. All right. It's it hasn't stopped me. So I've been promoting this since that day that but actually been promoting since. Two weeks after Sunday. Okay. Okay. All right. So yeah. But you know, I get to get to talk about movies. Yeah. Ideas about the bright. So you're mostly flicks. A section for and we're going to about your film sorry to body where where did it come from? Let's see. From from me sitting in my telemarketing cubicle. Valley revenge on industry. It was practically your life that you were kind of portraying. I mean, you know, it's it it was I mean that was the starting point. There were a lot of funny stories from that job. So actually, most of the funny stories from that job didn't make it in. Because as I was writing it. I realized it really isn't telemarketing moving and. And yes, so so it really comes from me wanting to connect that feeling you know, what cashes is talking about at the beginning of the feeling of wanting your life to be about something wanting to know what life is form one and feel more engaged with the world. And and connecting it to the different ways you can do that. And in in one way, there's individual way. And then there's also one that individual way really isn't individual affects the collective in a different way. And then there's another way where where you're more consciously involved with the collecting you mentioned, actually, something quite interesting. You said it wasn't just it's not just a movie about a guy had a marketing, it became something different. And when I was watching it that is exactly what I call. It wasn't about what he's able to sell a small historian. And actually what almost like a cultural exchange the imparts. I was watching specifically the part when he's at the party and everyone's like, oh, you can wrap. Please rap. Yeah. Right. And he's like, I can't rob. Because I know how I'm inclined, and then he starts off saying things that will get that type of audience hyped up. And what he's saying is is it rapport isn't just a selling particular culture. That is almost fetish is to be cool. Which I thought was quite I think he realized he realizes what they want from him. What what purpose he serving up there? And. As he is inclined to. Try to make them happy. He also realizes something about himself. Kind of want to criticize you trying to reflect on the idea of selling out in in just cultural facs leather. It's music. Whether it's you know, movies auto anything was was there a conscious type of critique on that idea of sticking to the craft being genuine or selling out and trying to please the audience in that scene. I think that I'm not just talking about hip hop there. I'm not just talking about rap. I'm talking about. You know what? What this idea of the performance of blackness is and that sometimes our performance of what we even say is blackness is a is a response to what we've been told it is. And and and what it sir in it's talking about what that sometimes serves in the. General scheme of things in the context of that film. How does that? Who is he performing for? And what do we already know about that world? And how does this performance help them alone? So those are big thing in the film about the White House. So that really really really a few laughs in because I think it triggered people thinking black people in particular when when we are in professions, and we have to be got to speak in a particular way in order to to be understood was it direct thing saying, you know, the white voice equals power confidence. Assuredness and the voice equals insecurity on reliability. You know, what I guess what? I was there's two levels and it works on one. When I'm doing when I was doing telemarketing. Yeah. You want it to one Hijra Mississippi one four for a couple reasons. One was because you're trying to be like, hey, I'm just like you, blah, blah, blah, then too because of just out and out racism, you want them to give you you their credit card, and you knew that many of them were racist. And wouldn't do that? If they knew you were black but separately on a different note. It's talking about one. It's first saying that we all are performing something. I don't care what your what your voice is. Or what your you know? It's at the very least this is how my auntie was saying or this is what my family does in this situation, or whatever it's a performance of some sort. But this is investigating. Also, you know, what whiteness is which is an idea. It's a it's a performance just as much as anything created thing. And in this case when when Danny Glover's character Langston describes it to two caches. He says look there there really is no white voice. It's what white people think they're supposed to sound like what they wish they sounded like, and he describes it as this sort of lack of of problems, and this ease with being at ease with where they are in the world and all of that. And really this is in in contrast to this is a reaction to the to the racist. Tropes of black folks and people of color that are out there, which say those racist tropes, say look black folks are savage their family is not organized in in a way that helps them out. They're they're they're they're ignorant. They are you know. You know, prone to violence in very many ways or whatever. And what that is for that serves a purpose? That's not just random and just ignorance or whatever it serves a purpose under capitalism that serves the purpose of saying, look these folks are impoverished, and they are impoverished because of their bad choices. So what it says is that poverty comes from a series of bad choices that the impoverished mate, which is really trying to cover up that poverty is built into capitalism. If you you cannot have capitalism without having poverty, and because you cannot have capitalism without having unemployment if you have full employment than those with jobs could demand whatever wage they want because you can't threaten their their jobs. This is something that Wall Street Journal and other mass publications about the economy will even worry about allow is when when the the unemployment rate goes low, they start worrying because that means, you know, simultaneously, wages. Go up. And stocks go down. So unemployment poverty is built into the system. How do you explain to the working class? That poverty is something that has to be there. And that you might be that that thing you don't explain that to the whole working class. You say look at those others. You don't wanna be like them, blah. Therefore, the reaction is the white voice in even when black folks are performing that white voice. It's a performance that says everything is fine. And which is the opposite of the truth for the world can't say for that individual person. But for the world, it's the opposite of the tremendous is quite interesting. How you say that it's performance that choice to everything is fine. Because a particular thing I quite enjoyed with Cassius in and test character when they just woke up in his nice niece Nike apartment. Everything was cleaning the moment he woke up, you tend to hunt spoke to Harry in his white voices. And it was like what the fuck. Doing you know, and it was I quite enjoyed that. Because it was it was that boundary us all of a sudden gain muddy, and you don't know when to perform went to be your own authentic self anymore. Question about the why voice. The. Sounded so far from the active. What did they always come up with invasion of the white voice? No, no. It's over. I knew I thought they would. Themselves as in version of a white boys. But no is David David cross was doing a leaky Stam voice patent Aswa was doing all Mari Hartwick swipe for and lily James was doing Tessa Thompsons British white. Yes. And and in the movie it actually is supposed to sound overdubbed everywhere. They mentioned when he does it in the bar. They said, well, it sounds like you're overdone. So I wanted it to be it needed to be magical because like in superhero movies, they come up with the power that fights what they think is the problem in the world. So because many superhero writers think that crime by poor people is the thing that is the problem they have superheroes with powers to beat people's acids. Right. And because that's what you know in a fascist society. That's what. Kills the crime is the powerful police. And so, you know, so you invent powers that that that that handle the thing that you're saying is the problem in the world will he has a power that has something to do with what I'm saying is the problem in the world one thing that really concerned me. The plot was the whole worry-free situation that was that was really uncomfortable to watch. Well, made you. Create idea because obviously when confronted that unaware modern scale in the west just brings up all those those his Matic kind of thought self slavery from. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's surreal. But the only reason it surreal and absurd is is because it's happening in the United States in the movie, but those exact places almost all throughout the world, and are in US and British corporations are part of making those things happen. You know in order to do that. And you know in order, you know, you have places like Foxconn and all that. Okay. Where it's happening. So those things exist already matter of fact when you look at the. The when we made the floor the production floor of worry free. We. Copied manufactured landscapes, which is this documentary about. Production facilities in China. So. You know, that that the absurd mart is that it's happening in the United States. So these things already exist, but what I wanted to point out was what what is the work day really about. It's about us making a profit for making put making thing that that that that creates a prophet in the wealth goes to someone else. So that was a way to just talk about what capitalism actually is and one of the things I wanted to touch on actually which I'm still very confused about as. Cards when Detroit when she's she's at her show, and she puts on that British accent. And that whole section was just upset, but in a way that made me feel uncomfortable. So I just wanted to maybe explain the vision that you had with her character. And what you wanted to portray. Well, I had spent some time hanging around the scenes of performance art like this guide year, mo-, Gomez Pinon and Keith Hennessy. And so you know, that that world became clear to me. But. Different characters in here are handling different contradictions inside of myself. And Tesla's character is handling has has a ideological contradiction. That has to do with where you know, her trying to figure out. What her what kind of fact on the world her art can have, and you know, and whether making these statements or exposing these problems actually does anything whether our? And you know, that's the thing. I'm always asking myself. Right. So she does a performance that is just as confusing as that question is right. And that that you know, she is trying to expose something. But the question is what effect? Does it have? Right. What what what does she? What lengths does she have to go to? And does it end up becoming anything clear or usable? Or does it end up making other statements about the artist themselves, you know, so so those are I wanted to have her character have because usually you have female characters who who have even when they are the lead of a film their conflict has something to do with. What women's conflicts are supposed to be about like. Right. And this is her conflict here is about something higher than what relationship she's in or won't say higher different. You know? And and and that's the thing. She's working out. I noticed like her performance. Is I think somewhat similar she might think it's different but somewhat similar to. Two caches performance in the very next thing. Am I thought that was quite about that told story win? I think Cassius ten to test of Detroit and said what you're doing is also just selling your art to rich people essentially, so that Lyon comparison was it was really good literally throwing things. What was going to say what was it like? Working with Keith. Yeah. Was it? What was the chemistry light was a good chemistry on on screen as well? As screen and was easy to. Yeah. Well, we'll say that Omari was like Amari like tries to go hard. He's one of those actors as like, you know. I won't say method. But he's like, I don't want to hang out with the other actors. I'm only going to hang out with army. You know that maybe that's he said that had to do with his character. But really army had all the week. That's partly what it was and. And but yeah. But everyone loved each other and hung out after that thing and on the town and Oakland people being like what what are these folks doing here that that was a big thing? Right everyone loved each other. But there was so much. Talent and skill and drive and love of art happening as we were filming as we were preparing that was like just having these masters go off with each other. And we had no not only no bad performance says, but so many amazing performances which cause problems in the edit like not that bad problems with good, right? And. So there. You know, look Keith when I hired him. I realized he was different than many actors I had met with for the role whereas many actors, especially era certain point in their career. They're just like worried about whether they're going to get the good roles where they're going to get the better role. This role will lead to this other better roll, and like the in their mind, they have it, and they just need to be able to show it. Well, the Keith was someone who he may have been concerned with that as well. But he definitely was concerned with becoming a better actor and always being in that role. So they'll Keith Stanfield that are hired in November of twenty sixteen was not as good as key Stanfield that came on set June of twenty seventeen and by leaps and bounds. And we're talking about the character. But he also was just thinking about acting and thinking about human beings, you know, and he's very observant. Now that mitt like all of these folks are. Our place to be able to to to interact with each other in different ways. And I also tried to cast against type because one I'm a first time director and someone who's very experienced could be like, okay, I've done this. So many times what do you have to tell me? Right. So no cast people playing something different. So that they weren't the experts at what they were doing and we could both build it together. And yeah. It was it was a great report between all of us for all. I wanted to ask when people have watched this film, and they will of the data's what what message will overall message, and I guess we'll action points. Do you want them to carry out from Lewisville once they won't they watched? It will feel like this film is chaotic and crazy and all sorts of things. But I think that it's also very optimistic. And I think that it's says that no matter what we go through. And how this system changes we have even with because of the way the system changes. We have the ability fighting we have the ability to join together and do these things. So I, you know. Purposely have in there a suggestion for how we can find where power is. And and and that's suggestion is based on the fact that we know how power works everybody. No matter where they're on the right or the left. They nobody will will disagree that those with the money have the power, you know, nobody will this some may say those with the money should have the power, but nobody disagrees. Those with the money half the power now, we are the ones that that create that wealth when we're on the job that is where struggle can take place. And so I'm hoping that people leave this. The theater wanting to make a mass militant radical that's right labor movement that uses the withholding of labor as tool strategy tactic. In order to. Make social Justice movements happen. So almost we speak about books books are thing. So just wanted to ask you what you currently reading one of your favorite books. What you Lam currently just reading scripts that agents are sending to them. But my my my my favorite books. And I think he probably comes off in the film because what I tried to do actually was not only draw on my cinematic references and my cinematic. Influences, but I tried to draw on knowing for music. I know that I I might look for things that influence me that aren't normal and bring them into what I do filter them through what I already do. So I did that with this. So I looked for other influences on the musical side, something aesthetic side, I took from music like Funke Delic, and that influence the aesthetic of the film, but then literature. Tony Morrison song Solomon. Gabriel Garcia Marquez hundred years to some salmon Rushdie Midnight's children, Michael dach-, e cinnamon peelers, y you know. You know, there's a there's a detail a syrup syrupy sweetness to and that sweet as in good. But sweet has just plentiful. And getting you high thing that comes in all of those writers work, where where there's a there's this detail that normally gets cut out of like if I were to the translation of that onto screen would normally get because normally independent film is, you know? At best. He walked to the store and any of those authors would say he sauntered slowly to the store and in his right hand. He carried a coffee cut that twenty years before his grandmother had used to murder his grandfather. Wow. What an end in that coffee cutter. In that was his half drink drunk coffee from last night that he was determined to finish. He took a sip now. Coming up. His Purdue producer indie film. Producer would be like just show him at the dams. Bing. Just one final line for people that want to create and create more and put this stuff out there. Just once final word of advice that people use right? Went to right went to create researching stop get off Google. You don't need to know anything more. Just sit there go where there's no WI fi and sit there and write for X amount of hours each day, even when nothing's coming out. And and if nothing's coming out right that nothing's coming and and. And you just have to sit there and do there's no preparation that boredom. That comes from sitting there when nothing's coming out is part of the writing process. Thank you so much for joining us face. It will say love it's twenty and thank you. Thanks for having. Thank you. Thank you so much for talking about this. Because you know, it's hard to get the word out stuff. We'll be spreading it. So. Joining us and good luck by peace. Right. So was fun. Cool. On. Yeah. 'cause he was pretty candid. Yeah. Really come to this situation in America. This is in. Minist- elements and stuff the guys go. Seen it yet. But it's like a great people are complaining that obviously didn't didn't it didn't make the gnomes. Yes. So basically Oscar nominations. And I'm actually excited because obviously they probably weren't win. But the fact that they are in the nation for best picture, I love. So that is. Black panther. Congratulations to the back. The Black Panther team for making best page. I think is the first superhero to be superhero film to be nominated. So congratulations to model. I'm really happy about this. Even though I don't think it's going to win. And I don't know. I mean, I wanted to win even though I know it small for me, and we all was e, but then my ideal Osco at these very tainted by the five or so much Wightman film that now this is eight needs to be this level of art, which is also something to critique in of itself, and may clansman is also nominated for best take. I've been kind of program. Number one about film course, by is by no means best. You just have to be like. Good. Something under something underhand because it's a nice best. This by no means by no means let's days films. He's done. He's like been around the agent. So why making for best region? A message. But I remember just because of your Kadhamy she think we need to to Bill. We all living in in a tight spot right now where they are under so much pressure to see I think people were saying that they should have pulled. If Bill street could talk in this in this category. I haven't watched it yet. You've washed. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Do you think it has to be on this? Thing is a very very artistic film literary misery novel arty. Off cabeza. Yes, they missed. The deadline comes in February. Stat meyer. I want to say. Yeah. I mean, I didn't mind. It might be up for next year because Regina kings, eighty one lead best supporting actress mentioned and whatnot for the film. Bender. I'm studying must have been definitely because a lot of films are nominated for golden graves also nominated for the kademi. And so we have human rhapsody which has lady Gaga also nominated the favor. Wait stars. I had. Stories. Born Baheen maps d. Pretty McCurry's pretty much Justice. Some people say the people that went to review it, and I hear that. He did quite people. He did it just this. Charisma as well. So a star is born no seeing. I'm not see many of the lists happened, actually. I'm gonna see this week or very much in green book and the favourite we're gonna see as well. Yeah. I like to see quite a few the full 'cause I quite liked to be involved. And I see them win. And obviously lead actresses well like from the same types of films. I think it's just minutes McCarthy from Kenya. To forgive me. That's the one that's already nominated and Glenn quits for the wife. My man Mahershala is support the green book. And yeah, I should favor actually, Emma stone and Rachel. Jean King is Nomex. Supporting actress if Bill streaker took orders. Yes. She didn't miss this Bill. But yeah, I'm excited guys. Make sure you keep you know. Tell us what you think whether these nominations accurate, whether you'll thinking all. Oh is being hosted? It was announced by Tracy Kamal. I I'm not sure say it's always a pill. That had a meal. Yeah. He's entertaining. They got him a little. He was he made some really outlined. Ultra said things that Recep assed your enemies keeps apologizing for it. But she should be doing. He's just in the streets. We'll be airing February twenty four forming. This. They can find out K clinically wants. And so you guys that's that full hour, mostly guys. I am so excited that game of thrones is coming live is coming guys winter is here is a rival stepping on next update, sir. By comes out. Having a game of the first conversation each week three eight four. You all know this. If you make this episode. Yeah. A final section, which we've kind of introduced the culture questions. So in this section you guys a free to eighty questions about. Books stage. Phil music, TV whatever. Various things about how we deal with issues because the TV or what's in metre. How we finish books. We mediums are. R anything anything? Raisin readout say essentially, we asked a question on. To and. Instagram. We all do you have any books that you require someone that you will remain involved with teary before you take them seriously off on express aids. Your like tasteless all the Booker you require someone that you're involved with romantically have read before before we hit four seriously. I do think that they kind of they should really have read some life, affirming book of some kind. I think that. I would like some of these if somebody came to me, and I said, I I've read prince. Prince on visual. Onto your kind of be. Let's have a discussion at one point. It was the pre from. What is a while? Now, I'm not so sure because to. Talk to fallen out. I knew this does. Well. I do I do think that things like James Baldwin ovals. If you haven't read any of the. Another dateable it Bill streak to more and Gilani's room. All. The me anymore than someone told him just those like the strong kind of. Black books. Make a good foundation of just of conversation station say. Interesting Baldwin conversation about whether was right into things. The way that you voted rightfully so this and his relations me. Yeah. What else actually contest? I sent that require a hod and interest in like books like that. Because I've just have other priorities. Honest. He kind and emotional sane. Yeah. All these other things. However, I think that's why for me, I don't require someone. But I do I think the only thing that I would require somebody to maybe have a. Like don't require if I want them like in tens of an interest life. I've taken big interest in them maybe to have read like some seven history in writing too. So that we both have an understanding not like just all either so much that men need to unlearn. And I want to know that you have take steps to unlearn things because I will not be entrapped annual into inland. So much the world tells us his role, and if you don't know that and so sometime. Yeah, you know, you consciously Twitter teaching you need to actually go out and do the, HUD work and a man that can do that by reading maybe sometime next tax. Some of these texts will be amazing and just maybe just conversation. Reading books from the I pass me. If you only tell me that the last thing you write was. L mice men from lighten at nine then I'll be a bit light skirt. Yes. It's not a requirement if you know, obviously have the other qualities, but I am an insight. I would I like intellectual stimulation stuff. And so it'd be great to cover Tim books. Amanda. All doors lesson. Charlie with us. Some goals. African tax African American tax some nice millennial tax things are coming currently. So yeah. So the people said. Some pass in could ignore hashtag. When we whenever said, no, not really, my soul, and my significant other sorry, and I and I have wildly different interests. When it comes to books. I think the only thing that we have enjoyed JK Rowling and Teri project. Somebody else says nearby helps so one Jerry so my Oiseaux minke us Sweden. Thoughts. Nope. It helps to have enjoyed a good number of the same books and authors safe safe self help. I'm always glad new work. What matters most is his political stunt, and especially that one can separate artists from there. Somebody said the bible, and I think that's Nazis. To the proverbs that's one that's one. This incident account of. Sometimes reminding. The Koran I'm not. Yes. I don. You have to. Putul company. Okay. Me. That's what I wonder. Somebody said on Gordon lex Lux. No, I put my friend. I loved and she still hasn't read it month later reading his pessimism basing relationship of as risky. I basically people just want to know that you've read so having an interest in reading is good for me is good for me. Anyway, like, I would get to read my favorite book. If maybe I want you to discuss something. But I'm somebody that you'd like something, and I like you like read it just to see why you like it. And I always find it brings people closer to heaven. To have a bread together. And they have different takes on it. Like if I like you. I probably read a book you just to see any then I'll be out yet. Maybe this campaign and taking out. That's all. Yeah. I think that it does not requirement. Just as I said on nanna sherve is not what books he reads. Can he reads? So yet guys. Some gap. This action is all about you. And like right I've seen so I was a Bill poff by because obviously I don't wanna hey, this isn't a curious cat rumble dilemma's. Yeah. I don't want you to rice in to talk about your issues. Bio those tunnels, I mean off. Television. Interesting somebody got us into to go over to nine interesting TV when you're having. A question. She goes. Happy onto them. Obviously. If you earned them enormous wanted to be honest. Otherwise, I think that is. Mostly Email us out mostly lit at Gino dot com. All Diaz at mostly Litz on on Instagram as well, obviously poured. And even just if you have any questions on our soundcloud comment say, yeah. Just individually on my career. All right. So come to the end of the show. Yeah. Little work brunch. Yes, you probably necessaries one voice missing. So host Derek is never going to be a part of the show because he's taking some time out on his book. That's coming up say coming on March, which I am. I can't wait to see what happens. We've said. To Ryan trapeze opposing it. And like everybody the best and he's take some time to focus. And we look forward to seeing what happens with regards to the book and performs. I'm not talking about it on the show when it comes out and have cover great. About book essays and. Focus on what matters trauma. Charlotte to Derek on cool, and he can just focus on what you doing. All righty. What else anything else you want to add this? We. I'm pretty guys. Oh, yeah. Back on and yes, I contributed an essay to this amazing Thalji edited by amazing Mariam con cool. It's not about the buck. It's coming out twenty February. We will be having an episode on eight and there is a loan Chapman fan foils the things. The things that one of the few times all like most of the contributors would be there. So get your tickets incumbency us. I'll be on a panel talking with fellow beautiful amazing one. So yeah, I'm really excited about that. And I loved recording the cause I was literally festival. This is my new career. Like, Stephen Fry is really just dead right now. It's me I should be doing this. This. Did the whole theories of hardy the whole series? It's amazing. You know, how much you get paid. Oh, my. We used to do for the rest of us. Anyway. But yeah, I'll have some great. Out for. Never never bought a book. This. Table. So okay. I also have another. To make sure that you can rate with you. Scribe on soundcloud. We're now on Spotify. 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ACS (Part 2): Mike August and The Rotten Tomatoes Game

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ACS (Part 2): Mike August and The Rotten Tomatoes Game

"Thanks for listening to the Adam Corolla show on podcast one. Let me tell you without Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in his hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his gates in the trash, but then he heard how gyco proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out. All those crazy. Trump's. Gene grant trouble. News with gene. The news with Gina grad. Oh, right. This half the show brought to you by Tommy John. Tommy, John dot com slash kgo Gina grad. Well, you mentioned Chris Hanson a few times this show social probably lead with he's just a bad bad week the latest in the former host of NBC's to catch a predator string of unfortunate events is a divorce from his wife. Mary Joan he had a meeting with her this actually last week to work out a financial settlement for the divorce. That meeting came a day after Hansen was arrested in Connecticut for bouncing checks. And if that weren't bad enough Hanson was also a victim from his New York City apartment for failing to pay his rent. Anson's divorce may have something to do with the fact that seven years ago, he was cut cheating with NBC anchor. Kristen Cadel with whom he had a four month affair allegedly. Anchors are easy to bang pantley. Hey, what about goes? I'm telling you everybody, everyone who's fucking somebody FOX anchor reporter of some sort. There's more news bazo says banging she's like. News. What is it? Well, look, you're good luck. Or you can't get the get. So we can can check that box zone. So party you that plays ball. Like, I don't know how you get from market one eighty two to Los Angeles or New York, if you're not up, you know, you can't tell people to fuck off every time they come up you and go, hey, what are you doing later? You wanna grab a drink or want to talk about something? There's something there's something in that wiring. And if you're say a field reporter, you want how do you get those interviews you have to be phase also be fantastic ghost worker, whatever that means to you. But I wonder too if there's a wiring in the young anchors female and male, but maybe female where it's like. Wonder I be curious what jobs are tracked into power versus aesthetic? You know, what I mean where you go like that guy's rich and powerful not much to look at he's rich and powerful. That's a good guy to hitch my wagon to so interesting, east Bank was was noted that bolsters your pointers interesting or, but I have a very good friend. Who is in local news TV news, and you it is sort of the last bastion not him specifically. But of like of like, the big local celebrity like if you're like the anchor in wherever you are in everyone's easy massive celebrity, and you're really well paid still. Yeah. And especially if you're not here. I mean, if you're an athlete or an anchor in anywhere town USA, you are the biggest celebrity in that state. Yeah. But the the athletes transcend because you're part of the national you know, what I'm saying. I'm trying to point out that like the anchor we have. No idea who the anchor isn't Pittsburgh, but in Pittsburgh Depres, a massive celebrity name. Yeah. I always judge anchors when I travelled local anchors like, well, she. She will heavier than what we use around here. And that kind of got a little ball spot going there. Asian weathergirl. That's different. Do to a lot of judging when I travel about I definitely watch either watch ESPN, and that's all fine and good but watch a little local color. I don't know how you're so good friends with him, by the way, Brian. He so nice. You don't who I'm talking to do on might be living direction. How many anchors I know people? Listen to the show. Well, we have some Super Bowl update news sort of Gladys Knight will sing the national anthem before Super Bowl fifty three years, the rock and Roll Hall of Famer and seven time granny winner, of course, midnight train to Georgia icon said quote. She's proud to us here we go. Yep. My voice team represent our country in my hometown of Atlanta. The NFL recently announced their new social Justice platform called inspire change. And I'm honored to be part of its nog relate Cussing twenty two year old young. So what is inspire change? Well, apparently. It's missions trust me. It's just as clear in their mission statement, quote, the collaborative efforts of players owners and the league to create positive change in communities across the country by focusing on education and economic advancement police community relations and criminal Justice reform. I have the spot that they're going to air and that they're going to swap out variations of this spot. If you wanna see it. I have never heard more. Inspire change dream live your sort of hope I've never heard more of that from adults that were fifty plus. I've heard more of it. I think in the last fourteen months, and I've had from zero to fifty three and a half. I have never it was never. It was weird. It was it was it was part of some stupid. Mcdonald's thing where they showed like the stars in a rainbow going to star. And it's like dare to dream big or something. But you just walked by the poster and go are you talking about the fucking losers work in here? Like, I never meant anything ever. Never moved any needles like it just like dream big and live your life. And it was like, okay. But I do I don't think it ever means anything to any successful people, and it's a cost to lead. Anything for unsuccessful people? As a matter of fact, I think it's low night school would be a more a little bit of a fucking slippery slope. Yeah. Like learn how to sweat. Copper pipes would be a much straighter line to making money success. And you've got to dream, you gotta believe. It's I remember 4._0._1._K would be much better much. Better message. It's a sack. It's like they took a piece from thirty five different. I ki- furniture sets put him in a sack with no instructions fucking dump them on the floor your living room and went believe, here's. To fucking do. What do you want me to do with this like, you gotta believe achieve achieve and then you gotta dream which got, but listen and also there is some shitty messages in there. It's like, hey, don't ever let anyone tell you. That's like, oh, yeah. That's all. I is. That's all life is people drive nicer cars or older than you telling you what they want don't ever tell you don't let anyone ever tell you. Why my nephew's not working for me more? He didn't like when people told him stuff. Yes. Have everyone tell you shit when you don't know shit when you're nineteen and a half fucking loser. And you think Chicago's a state then by all means listen to fuck another dudes who are telling us yet. I was somebody. I don't know tweeted me or I don't know how the internet works as we've savage during the week. But I was watching Kamala Harris sort of thing she did like a two minute. Video thing about young girls needing to believe and stand up and stand up and believe in a chief. And I was just sort of looking at it. And I was going. I'm not offended. But I don't know. What it I don't know. What it is. I don't know what it means. I are we not doing that already. I feel like we smacking belief out of our daughters. Well, let's let's put it. Let's put it this way. If that if you're like a junior in high school, and you want into your counselors office, and you want look. I'm not great with the science and the algebra biology. But I'm pretty good. Pretty good woodshop. And you've got to believe. Yeah. But are there? Yeah. You you believe in yourself. If you believe in yourself, there's hope there's hope have hope believe in dream big. Now, see you later, and he just left you'd be walking down the hall. I don't have to fuck happened hoping Pam closer to anything. I want to do. But all right. Let's see what the NFL has to say. Has been hit with a major spike and Gunn violent kind of bring everybody together to show that we're not this kind of tag teamed said all right? Let's do something. And it was just really great to have local police here alongside our kids alongside the Chicago Bears to openly talk and throw relationships with each other. If they get to know meet then they took ATar. Qatar for more equal and just tomorrow. A lot of talking about tomorrow. Bugger? All too. Oh, it's actually the also the theme UT, I think ripped off. They seem from super chicken. Excuse me. Oh, yes. Super chicken tanto animated when he would go bucket. Bugaboo bugger bugger. Got it. Yeah. I think that's where the edge Maeve ripped off the super chicken. That was fight fight. Call see if you can find that anyway, and you can find that come on. I may have favorite tweeted it. I don't I don't remember max patio. All right. So everybody there you go problem solve unity. We'll take a Lincoln waiting. Hurry up and rescue. Mall. Right. If you look at. Just be back as. Alive and kicking. Learn when there was no one else. I will hold on. Let's hear Oxford close. There is. There is also super chicken rated bucket bucket bucket. Bucket bucket bugaboo book a book is like a civil war horn, trumpet, bugle, call secret can find that. But anyway teams. Listen to. All right. So I guess they wanted that. Yeah. I guess they wanted you to vine. All right there buddy or everyone could stick around race or kids tournament. Good citizens and the problems would be solved this. Well, that's another direction. Poor cops everybody now. Well, news reports at the bull that killed professional writer Mason low during an event in Colorado last week will continue to be used on the writing circuit pulls a draw his name is hard times. And he bucked the beloved twenty five year old star off its back and stomped on his chest killing him during the professional bull riders PBR shootout event at the national western stock show in Denver that bull as about two thousand pounds despite wearing a protective vest, low suffered a massive chest injury that caused damage to his heart and the person putting on the PR said this bowl did not mean to kill this person. He just got underneath them. And the way I mean, they look at this all the time. And if you ask the ball. Well, would you like something strapped to your balls? So yeah, they it was it was a big deal and this kid was sort of a writing. But the ball the bull stays, it's funny. So they put the flack jacket on them. So that couldn't be gored because guys get gored. And then they put you can't stop rushing somebody. It's sad. But I kind of hope this guy was married. Well, you do wanna call the bowl the Widowmaker. And if he just had like, a domestic partner or wasn't married or confirmed bachelor, you don't get to do that without a wife that can do the math on the widow maker. I think still with the movie, okay? With a lot of guys will check. News fake news. A female right of cult a widower. That's. Yeah. Look. Yeah. The bulls doing what you want the bowl the do which is go nuts while someone's on their back, pardon the pun because they do put that string around their nut. Second and pull on it. So I don't blame the ball. Also is sad as it is. Well, couple things you sign up to be professional bull rider. This could happen or always sad is well, but then also you don't wanna pull that bull out of the rotation because that then becomes the bull that people want to say, it's a draw road. Right. Is there more thankless job on the planet than the clown? That's supposed to distract the bull. When the real hot sexy. Bull rider gets bucked off Gina those clouds. Get asked I have done in Klis stand up about this. But it's like I look at a job you tied to look at job. I have this conversation. My son one of these days sort of danger to pussy ratio, you know? And I work construction my whole life, and I was a dangerous job. At times, and it was dirty, and I was breathing and his Besson everything, and there's no pussy versus get a job as a bartender, some cool place out Huntington beach, or Redondo beach, or Venice beach or something could fucking number every single night zero danger all Posey and tips, though wars I mean, so if you're fighter ace in your launch doing carrier takeoffs and landings and Tailhook and and whatnot that's dangerous. But there's a hussy at the end of that danger rainbow the rodeo clown danger pussy ratio. There's no worse. Kick. Your is. No worse kick. You can't be a pussy, and you won't be receiving pussy. That's right. Okay. Thank you. Well, here's another ad that's stirring, up some drama, and I'm actually very curious. What Christie might have to say about this. So as political tensions flare between Mexico and the US. Oh, she loved it. Coat decided to be proactive about gaining new customers. Christie's tweet. I can't wait to your. So here's the deal. The country's national carrier unveiled a program called DNA discounts, which offers discounts on flights to Americans who can show by taking a test that they have Mexican DNA. But wait, there's more the amount of the discount depends on the percentage of Mexican you are so if you're fifteen percent Mexican you get fifteen percent off your flight, the promotion is a horrible way to department. Flight out. People in Arizona and Utah area. Here's the ad which claims to feature real people, which seems like they are and their opinions about Mexico. And then of course, the big reveal about their heritage. Mexico's first destination is America. But America's first destination is not Mexico. So you went to typical American town to ask why they don't consider Mexico an option to travel to. Would you consider going to Mexico? No way, the idea of going to Mexico is not something that I would see that's not my Cup of tea. Let me stay here in peace and let those folks stay on their side of the border. Do you like to Keila? Yes. Do you like burritos? Yeah. Do you like Mexico now? And when you're company name is Mexico. Well, so how do we increase USA flight to Mexico? If a big part of Americans, just don't like Mexico, according to the department of homeland security Mexican immigration goes as far as the eighteen hundred settling in on the south that a big percentage of Mexican ascendants in the USA doesn't even know it yet. So we did a DNA test to prove it and turn those results into discounts the more Mexican, they are the more discount. They get Joshua. You are eighteen percent Mexican. Oh, wow. So you eighteen percent off to fly to Mexico Charlet? You are fourteen point four percent. Mexican. You're twenty two percent. Mexican bullshit bullshit. You are eighteen percent. Mexican better new. Twenty two percent off the plight of Mexico come on out. So what I want to take my wife eligible for a fifteen percent discount to Mexico. That's why what do you think they're related? I love discounts. Sorry, betsy. Right. Hold on their ways one little province. He can't. He can't have guy talk about your wife like what about my wife smash cut? Joe woman at home doesn't seem like life. But you're just talking about who's get another redneck and then go to a woman, but anyway, keep going. What do you think about that? I love discounts. Sorry, betsy. You're only three percent. Mexican. Look at the results. So we kept giving discounts all over southern America in our travel agencies. Inner discounts. There are no borders within us. Yeah. Go to Mexico ahead. Taco bills on the street corners down there. Finding Christie says it's a winner for their you know, she says this campaign by aero Mexico. USA spectacular incredible leveraging of data personal cultural bias and turning it into a discount offer. It also shows how mine stupid people can be white. Yeah. Not other. But put me black faces in that group. You gotta be right now. It's warden Texas. Imagine it as more people weren't also less block Americans of Mexican heritage. I don't know they're saying Americans in general. I'm sure less, but I'm saying is white folk are the last folk you can't you couldn't mix. I don't think you can mix a gay guy in there black guy in there. You can't make in. This is the last group that we can call stupid or we can go up to hang themselves. Yes. Well, no, I ever they're stupid people the stupid black people stupid white Saito super gay people stupid everything I'm just saying you can't go one hundred percent hillbilly. Oh, you can't go one in a world where everything is diverse. Can't we've in a diverse group and call them fucking stupid. That's that that's going to work and intersectional world, but smart fun. The interstate. Interstate the data, and it's like this is boring. Let's make it interesting. Yeah. The here the El Chapo gave one hundred million dollars of the president of Mexico did not hear that right of shock. It's a little that was actually in the in the audio that I did with Mike McGowan ghost the guy we add as a guest his undercover investigation found out all of this stuff. And yes, El Chapo was and the president the Mexican president. There was money paid. And when McGowan told his higher ups in the FBI he was told quote, those findings are beyond the scope of your regional investigation. We talked about talked about that a little bit Dawson sounds fascinating where we hear more February seventh at ten in downtown LA the next booze and book club presented by Corolla drinks. It's free with Mike beginning. So now be there. Now, it's out that Chapo gave a hundred million bucks to the. The president. Yeah. Shocked fucking narcos thing little fun. But it's a fucking narcostate. 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Dawson time John dot com slash atom right now for twenty percent off your order. That's Tommy John dot com slash Adam. For twenty percent off only Tommy John dot com. Tommy, john. Com. I would've I'm extra. All right. Pots giving this. Yeah. So hundred billion dollar bribe to former president of Mexico Enrica Pinon NATO, and when they brought this issue up recently Mexicans just kinda shrug it off like, yeah. Well, they're just like they're far more concerned with other matters. Like would they be able to refuel their cars and the gas crisis violence and things like that? So they're like, everyone just in Mexico. Like course, it's fine. We know when that takes back all your problem. I think he wanted to fifty and he only got. Less than half of that hundred million dollars. And so he's like, well, if you're not gonna pay then I got up time, I got drop peso on your ass. Here's the thing wherever you are. Whether it's a Latin American country, some Baltic something when there's corruption and when everywhere, you know, basically, you gotta pay the cops when when the countries that are crop cannot grow. Can't you can't do anything? Just can't. I mean, imagine trying to start a business when everything was just corrupt like you just had to go pay this guy and pay guy and they went it's it's it's stifling. Right. Well, then you think of the most what I consider the most extreme examples of when we're doing food drops to the poorest countries on earth. And the government is is stealing the from the people warlords. It's real. Yeah. It is. It's not. Oh, fun. It's not glamorous. Like, bo. We're going to dig wells for the poor people. We're going to drop off grain, and we're gonna have a solar powered water pump. So that can pump out on stuff. Sounds really cool. Bill Gates in malaria, and all that kind of stuff. But the corruption I have interviewed guys on taken. I can't think of that guy's name. Get rid of the corruption and everything else starting to solve itself. Leave the corruption and all the mosquito nets grain will never disappear as a problem. Yes. By the way, this might be interesting to talk about it, some point I read this really interesting article about how damaging EKO tourism is. And I think it's it's like instead of going on vacation, I'm gonna go pay to go to some remote village somewhere and and help at the orphanage. So yeah. So I feel great about myself. I can say I did this thing. But the way it keeps the those people impoverished keeps them the kit. They specifically talking about the kids in the orphanage, and they're like, oh my God. It was so rewarding. I came up to me these children just rush to me and hugged me, and they were climbing on me. And there was a psychologist saying that that is really not normal for children. That's obviously not a good sign when they have that kind of attachment hunger. That's the people are filing in and out tourist just so kids can hug them and the way that they. People who do eco-tourism want to go to really devastating places. So a lot of those villages are kept really fucked up. None of that era. Mexico commercial or into eco-tourism in our zeitgeist nurse aside that someone that's though I haven't had experience with it. I can see somebody. I know going, you know, this is what I'm gonna do. I think it'd be really fun. But it's actually pretty damaging the longer. I live the more. I just think about unintended circumstances. And it's all of it. It's everything it's all a version of well, my stepson's really just kind of trying to find ways twenty two. So we give twelve hundred bucks a month apartment. Yeah. Yeah. He parvenu still going to Santa Monica City College over there. And it's like, you're you're gonna ruin your heart. I'm helping feel I've known him since he was nine feel like my own son. I do real well for myself. So I can afford the twelve hundred bucks a month. He's doing and it's like, I know it all sounds great. You're going to you're gonna ruin it. You're going to run it all goes back to the animal kingdom like fuck and don't feed the bears. Don't feed the bears. They're so friendly or whatever let me out of the dumpster like, no, no, no, no, you'll ruin everything by trying to do that. There's versions of everything there's a sort of path to success and the step son, you can go. Well, you gotta get a job you can live at home as long as you have a job, but you have to pay rent, or if you're in school you have to be in school full time, but you're still paying we'll pay less around. But you still have to pay. There's version at everything is just and it's all shit, either the bear the villager or the steps on doesn't want. And then we do this move where we go come onto you could afford it. Like, you showed your business? You're successful. You don't you got three cars. You can you. You could you could you could afford it. You could you're ruining everybody. It's it's sad that our attempts at help and generosity, or whatever we're calling it. Oftentimes, fuck up, the people more more than I would all I would be. Here's what I would do. My whole thing would be if you're low income, and you got your kid on the free institutional school slop program, I will do this. Since money's tight of. I don't know why you can't afford a sack of oatmeal. But either way I will not I will get rid of free school lunches, but I will start a program that drops off a dozen eggs to you every Sunday night for the folks that qualify for my dozen egg program. And then you shall have dozen eggs starting Monday morning greatest. They money for the school. And it'll save money and your kid can watch you make them a couple scrambled eggs and get some good protein before they had in to school. So I will do that that will be getting on the dole and in the system and eating a bunch of fucking slop. And and also the strong message mama's too busy to cook. Eggs. That's not what we need. Okay. So let's all I'll do the dozen version of ecotourism or the bears. The stepson are anything. I'll do that version of the part where you get the ticket and a free slot. No-brainer not helpful. Well, here's something. It is helpful. And I think this is a parent. We can all look up to a peeping. Tom was tackled by a former NFL player in Florida after the guy was caught pleasure himself while looking through the window at cornerback. Tony Beckham's fifteen year old daughter Beckham who played for the Detroit Lions and Tennessee titans ran outside to confront this guy. Geoffrey Cassidy after psalm trying to get a little better view and the daughter's room when Beckham yelled at Cassidy start to run, but the former NFL player no problem catching up to tackling him to the ground by the time. The police arrive. I say this from personal experience. You can't outrun a fact guy with Boehner much less cornerback and NFL right there. Match up. No one guy. Really you cannot play D being the NFL unless you're world class speed. And you can't run with Boehner spell even. I'm not gonna details. But I'm just telling you know, scape with Boehner. The world has established with too much pornography. Saturation point, they're still being Tom. Yeah. Isn't that going to quite? Yeah. Say like in a weird way. It's almost like like pickpockets or something. But when you when you're peeping and beating off it does take it to another 'nother level, I do have garra this question about this. Because by the time the police arrive Beckham had Cassidy panned and during the scuffle. He broke a few bones in Cassidy's face. He left him with the black guy, and I'll bloodied. Cassidy of course, charged with lewd lascivious behavior with victim younger than sixteen. He's being held at Palm Beach county jail in lieu of bond. I arguments that window added three years. Oh, frosted panes. I don't know man talked Anderson, but somehow dual glaze stuff with are gone center adds a few years still. Don't know. Right. So I how it works even the courtroom. Window a woman. On panics walking behind. Now. She steps out fifteen now she is eighteen in day. Now back again. So the question is. Florida Beck and beat the shit out of this guy. Yes. And that's cool. Right. Being judged. We love that part of well, it is toxic masculinity. For good. We decide we treat masculinity. Like, we treat bugs like we. Go. Oh, ladybugs fantastic. Cochran. No, no cockroaches. Like, I don't know just bugs and walk around and eating plants. Do whatever we decide arbitrarily which ones we don't. We're not into which we love this, by the way. This guy has a ton of toxic masculinity. Run a guy down to beat the shit out of him in your yard. That's masculinity. That's there's no Astra Jin there. But is that toxic? She has. So we just kind of pick and choose what we like. Now what I'm saying is. Yes. You beat the shit. If this guy lawyered up with goes, he would get a big fat payday. That's it's sad. But it's true ideas. Well, look, the guys who shot the north Hollywood Bank robbers that the fucking old coups was the, mama. One them got paid out after after shooting everyone in north Hollywood. She got paid didn't presenter. Yes. So she's a fucking sea hag, and she got paid. She got paid because you can you can go. Yeah. It's beaten off and engaging in a crime and your daughters in there. And and whatever whatever or or with victim, whatever your job is in to be the judge jury and executioner you can subdue me. You can call the cops you can do whatever. But you can't break my orbital socket. But is there a jury on earth that would convict Beckham for beating the shit out of somebody who was peeping on his daughter? I don't think so I don't know. I know they're not. They'll do what they do like they did with north Hollywood. Which is like forget about everything that happened before this person was on top of them could they've held them down and wait for the cops. Or did they need to punched him in the face, and whatever happened before that that's not we're we're here. Dress. We Blitzer for all find out what happened to the mom and her lawsuit because I see your own competed that she dismissed the action with a waiver of malicious prosecution, which means you fucked up, but I want to know if she got paid 'cause that's outrageous. If you're really good now, I believe she got paid. And you can ask Gary who was here when of talked about it many times, but wrongful death. Bucked out of the world's worst. All right. 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Part of all those stories is when guys go like she was fucking eighth grader. She would take them back their -partment and fucked eighth three guys sit around and go Jesus Christ. What's this world coming to you? And then they pulled a picture ever, and they go, hey, she's high. Well, not too shabby completely change our mind over this crime based on her static. That's out outdo guys. Are wire this campaign Gillette? Yeah. It's so fucking that out the chicks pig. It's got got guys therapy. She's a seven was like. Well, no harm. No foul. Virginia sometimes will lose before knows doing ups. Hey, speaking of quaint, an from the naked, calendars, amazing still exist. Yeah. Oh my God. World with too much porn. We had just hot tool calendars, like the Makita girl calendar Allie host or as a weird message because be super eighties out teased out hair chick when that that ABC look of bikini and white high heels was in, but she's standing she's leaning next to a band saw. It's like sweeter. You have any tangent pants. All we're in the seven inch heels. Sure that could never work during my first radio station remote was at a place called Buena tool, and Santa Barbara and the Makita girl was there. Oh, yeah. He was signing posters of herself holding a drill gun a big deal. I had I had her sign one to my dad gave it to him. It's still in my parents. Hey, mom. Stare at the Makita girl on the wall. Dad like the snap on rage. It tools. Had a good one MAC, tools, probably had one but Makita got on early and often too. And we have a lot of good eighties. Makita chicks, very if you, you know, we talk about that sort of frozen in time like look at commercials from a look at posters. You wanna know what women are idea of beauty was in nineteen eighty six vats it out. Yeah. Let's just to version of it. But I used to I used to look at those posts and go not only may never going to bang her never going to get that planer either like that shit's to expensive for me to like both things on that poster outta reach for twenty three year old Adam Corolla, this is my I never would have thought about again for the rest of my life back at Kayla sex. I floated an idea to Jackson ver the women of Kayla's X and all proceeds go to the military, and he was kind of into it. But guess wells was super into it Heidi Hamilton, Theresa's drowsier, Kerry canes. This was this was going to happen and then an inject lost interest. He passed out all the flood into action crazy things about that job is like in two thousand nine and you'd pass the fan which looked like something to that transported strippers in some part of Nevada. It was a crazy. What rate a radio station like what the hell's going on? All right. Let's bring it home. Baby girl. Got it. I'm Gina grad. And that's the news. I call this one pedophile talk. That was the news with Gina grad. I can picture those Makita chicks now why are they now? Well, you know, I have this theory. My theory, it's might Mike cross when we cross theory like when I was thirteen it'd be babysitting and like Dallas would come on. And it'd be all those hot Twenty-three-year-old chicks on Dallas and stuff. And I'd just sit there. Of course, I'm thirteen zero chance nineteen zero chance now fifty four and rich and they're sixteen probably not rich. And I think I could get them easily know what I'm saying where ob- saying the same thing about the Makita checks. I'm saying those chicks are wandering around somewhere. Got a couple of crows feet. Put on a couple of pounds c section scar. Mine's got to be forty six forty seven. Yeah. Mine is probably mid mid forties early. Fifties. Definitely bankable now has grandchildren. Oh, yeah. Lives in Perth. Like we've crossed we've crossed. You know what I'm saying? Explain this. But you gotta do what you gotta do the x axis. I've stared at that fuck and poster for long time having a relationship that poster loan for mental and those girls whose grandfather did to my loan. All right. We very at home. Let me tell you about simply safe last, but not least simply safe to is in their SimpliSafe dot com slash Adam. And use that you are L police, simply safe dot com slash Adam stuff is great crazy. Tom Arnold coming in tomorrow. Always looking forward to that. Thinks go by Tom Arnold dropped the crazy. Oh, it's understood its employees. Irvine improv this Thursday up onstage. Joan basic cable commentary Dave's era. We'll have a great time up there and good sports after this with damage shack. And let's not forget ball Brian SOX lineup. The shell valuable for limited time, and you can go to an curl dot com. And find out all you need to know about that rode hard for free at to be TB dot TV dot com. Checkout dot com and find anything about anything coming up next. 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What did you make of the big story a week ago, or at least to some people's a big story? The Clemson Tigers fresh off their victory over the Alabama crimson tide are going to the White House. And and the president announces, hey, look, I bought you a whole bunch of burgers from the three biggest burger chain in the country. Some people felt that that was a bad move. Some people thought it was great. Where do you come down on that? Well, I enjoy these stories I especially joy, it when people are outraged because this is a sort of beige Camry with cloth interior of a story, which is like can I interrupt you? It's a beige suit like the this president assessor went crazy about that. Settle down there. Other thing it's a non story, you can't obeys. Shooter beige camera. You can go like not my Cup of tea or I wouldn't make that wouldn't be my first choice for a car or soup. But you can't be outraged. And. I like these kinds of stories because it is one of those where fishery out of problems stories, you know. Fortunately that happens to be one hundred percent true here in twenty nineteen. We have nothing else to worry about. No other countries are still talking about ethnic cleansing. And we're like did you see serve sloppy Joes? Can I can I tell you off shoe to this? I tweeted out just just interrupt you for a second. I tweeted it out and made a big at what was intended to be a dig at the college football system, which is these guys don't get paid. And now they have to eat the only food that they ever get three sixty four now for three sixty five and people didn't they were outraged by my take which wasn't even directed at the president. I'll dare you insult the press. It wasn't him. I was it was a college football thought. But anyway, so no victims here, it's a victimless crime. As you sail through life. You realize it's the stories in life that you collect. It's it's the stories that you remember, and it's not always about victory. It's not it's it's not surfing turf. You will never if you and I are contacted twenty years from now and somebody says any details you happen to know about presidents hosting national football, though. Right. He won't go. Well, there was the time when they serve veal. And then there's that other time in two thousand twenty one when they're surfing turf. And then I remember the had some problems with electric knife in carving station. You'll only go Clemson fast food. That'll be the only time true you'll ever remember this. So so when people are protesting or objecting or something in a weird way. It's like it's like it's like when you raise your kid, and I remember when I was seven I went to. Six or seven. I went to a Quaker school like a Quaker religious school in Pennsylvania for no, good reasons. Proud whatever's closest or whatever and. It started raining, and because my my family's more pagan than they are Quaker somebody said, it's raining, and I said, it's raining like hell, and it was such a simpler time. Yeah. Now, by the way, the time. It's like Senator saying, hey, the presence of fucker. Back then back, then I could go it's raining like hell, and I got into trouble. So true in the span of your life. How is not even lifetime is in the last two three years. Now, we have excel A-Rated from p grabbing comments to until like everybody if you're on CNN or otherwise you like I think that's bullshit crazy the Senate or you can't talk like that. So we get thrown. Whomever, Senator just called the president motherfucker. Like, I stand by like, all right? But these were simpler times so someone said it was raining, and I said, it's raining like hell, and I got into trouble because it was a religious school, and they sent me down to the office. And it's really the only store I remember my childhood, and I was in there, and the whole my mom and stuff like that. And I was like sitting in there and the principles like you understand. Why shouldn't use that word? It's like, oh, I understand like you never use that word. That's a bad word. We don't condone the use that word d do you understand? And then I said, I get I get it. I understand I'll never say hell again. And it was a moment of a stupid childhood the word I wasn't supposed to use. I used again. And the guy was told her. To use that and. But it sort of quaint, and that's the memory thought a memory of victory. This story for the Clemson tires shall not be there. Tigers right. They're not show servant turf. Is is fine. But there's no real memory that the fast food is the memory. So it's fun Trump. They're both in it. He paid for it. And he paid for thousand burgers. There's only three hundred dollars times fact checking like say like he's like you stack. These burgers on top. They'd go to the moon. Fact checker gives them five down. You're so right. But I love that. That's exactly right. And somebody said that to me as about halfway through my time at college in ideallic, Bloomington, Indiana. And I said I want in this guy was leaving. And he said, you know, the council I would have is do stuff that's different every weekend. Or when you're in your free time. Don't just go to the bar. There were you know, one or three bars and everybody goes to. It's like you'll think that this is great you have to do it. But you won't remember any of it. They'll all just mixed together the stuff when you do something distinctive. That's the only thing you're going to remember. That's exactly right. Good or bad, something that stands out is what you want life. Also, just to give the devil is due. Whatever Trump does. He's always standing in front of giant oil painting of Lincoln, Martin Luther King. And then everyone on MSNBC gets upset. Like, can you believe he's talking about building a wall? And he's standing in front of Julio, Cesar Chavez is Partrick. It's like all right. But they're portrait's everywhere. That's all the bells all the opposite of him. Whatever comes out of his mouth. He's gonna be in front of somebody who had never said that they should do what they do in Jewish funerals. Like drape a sheet over. How upset if Don Don should just go. Look, I'm tired of getting my my nuts busted by you guys saying he stood in front of ABRAHAM LINCOLN and made this proposal stations hang sheets over all of them. Go look, I get it. No ma. Yeah. He didn't. He didn't go out of his way to go to Lincoln's, Springfield, Illinois, childhood home, and do these this is where he happened to be around that do the math do the math 'cause I'm going to challenge you on this math. Which is you say these things in front of ABRAHAM LINCOLN or Martin Luther King, or whomever, and it's horrible. But I'm just going to use your own math. Alright. So let's put up a painting of Mussalini and say the same thing, I believe he would be criticized. I think that would be you know, I happen to agree with where you're taking this. I think that would see more somew- on MSNBC Rachel Maddow as upset as you are now. You'd be much more upset if he put up. Mussalini gang conned even in the White House. What does that have to do? Exactly, right. All right. Listen, we're off to a hot start a hot sport stock. This this good sports week. We'll talk to you tomorrow until then for Adam Corolla they've damaged. Control on Twitter, Adam Corolla show. Follow on Twitter that all lead us boy at eight six four one seven four four get your tickets for Adam Corolla is unprepared. February eighth at Foxwoods and Connecticut and February I'm sorry, February eight yet Foxwoods February ninth in Boston at the Wilbur theatre. Adam Corolla is unprepared. Tickets at Adam Corolla dot com. 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