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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

Speak For Yourself

07:51 min | 2 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

"Because that game was for the taking disappointed in the bucks as well for a slightly different reason number one. Can i just get a complete effort from the milwaukee bucks now that we're in the nba finals. Because we haven't seen that. And we've seen it in variations where they fell short. Can i get a full screen. Please on exactly how and where. They fell short. Because it's been different from game one to game to gain one they could not defend without fouling putting the phoenix suns on the free. Throw line far more than anybody else has on average in these playoffs in game to us it was. Oh we're not going to defend the three point line. We're going to allow them to make twenty out of forty four fifty percent. That's eight more. Threes per average playoff game than the suns are used to making and well above what they're used to shooting those are effort areas and i'm not only disappointed. I'm shocked because of what i heard from mike boot and holzer who told his team in the locker room have fun. Play fast play random. What no longer. We've got problems. How about let's play with precision. Let's box out and close out because those are the difference makers in an nba finals. Game toco gave you all the offense you needed. So i'm not worried about drew holiday going seven for twenty one or chris middleton so only scoring eleven points. What i'm concerned is that mckell. Bridges had a career playoff twenty seven points against chris. Middleton that's my problem and pj tucker who can't guard anybody in this series is still playing thirty five minutes a game so for that reason. I'm not taking anything away from what the sons have done. I just don't know if they can play better than they have. And it's disappointing. That the the bucks have not come close to playing anywhere close to their potential through two games now man. I'm on the other side of the you guys. I'm impressed by the sons because i'm not bored with success. I think you guys are getting a little bored with the success. And now you want to sit there and say oh. The other team needs to do better. How about the other team to phoenix suns. Just handling their business. New england patriots style. Alabama football style. People get bored with it. We all know we always want to get creative when we think we master something you ever go out there and play some tennis which boys none of us have five point. Oh tennis players wax all y'all but let me just say me i'm a four point. Oh but i do know this. Just keep the ball in play. Just rally rally. You know what i'm saying. That's how you win but we get create. what do we do. Got it over and over all. That's what you get miked up like bhutto's say player radic plaistow. Whatever who who is worse might up. Sam darnold or boot chris good list. That's a dumbness to say right there. Let me get it to my take because acho man you said there was nothing that was done. That wowed you by the phoenix suns. Well you just mentioned slick. Rick mikhail bridges having a playoff career. Highs awhile moment. Let's talk about the fact that the phoenix suns hit twenty three pointers in game. Two which is a postseason high. Sounds like a wow moment to me. How about the fact that they were averaging just one hundred and points a game coming into the finals and now up to one eighteen. Sounds like a wow moment to meet but you know me to bring home allow. I got up. Bring on a full screen and tell me if this ain't no. Wow chris paul. He may for this look at these points responsible for per game in the nba finals in the last two decades. This is actually chose favorite stack. He always talks about this. What the hockey assist. And you're just contributed to the entire complexity the game well chris paul and his first finals. Ever wow jimmy butler right there. Kevin durant right there steph curry on the shop black kobe bryant rest in peace and lebron james that want to that time zone that thing how so all that in totality man. Don't be bored with success. Don't be mad. They just getting the ball back over but they get it over. Where in the place where you can't return fire. That's on the bus for right now. Feels like the sun's figured about sale. If we were seeing fire being fought with fire than maybe i would be impressed by the sons but the sons are out there. Shooting fire in the bucks have no response to holiday. Seven for twenty one. Khris middleton five hundred sixteen but more importantly so. When i think about your clippers they put up a fight. Remember against the sun. I five games had four different. Starting lineups tyler was like a. I'm a try whatever works whatever works and he figured things out he stole two in the first four games but he out there just rolling out the same lineup that worked against the nets in hopes that it might work against these sons if he's playing the exact same team with identical rosters. The reason. The sons aren't impressing me is because or not impressing me more than the books are disappointing. Me is because the bucks aren't giving them they best shy. You beat somebody when they give you your best shot all of a sudden. I'll say yes. Clap for you. i am impressed. But the suns are beating the bucks when you holidays scoring thirty percent of his field goals. The sons are beating the bucks. When coach bud is making no adjustments. The sons are beating the bucks when khris middleton is regressing instead of progressing. So none of that tells me. I should be impressed with the sons as opposed to vastly disappointed with these bucks. One hundred percent correct and again. I'm not going to focus on the offense. But i'm gonna focus simply on the categories where effort comes up biggest. The phoenix suns in game two had eleven offensive rebounds and six of those came from the back court. Devon booker had to offensive rebounds. Chris paul mikhail bridges that simply a matter of effort and boxing out and getting after it. The bucks demonstrated against the atlanta hawks against the brooklyn. That's what they're capable of. When they play with collective energy at the defensive end they've beaten. They beaten a better three point shooting team in the brooklyn nets than these phoenix suns. So i know that it's within their capability to do more than they're doing. And that's why marcellus. When i look at this what we've seen so far it hasn't been that close. The bucks have threatened but we didn't expect that it was going to be a runaway train. Certainly not the way that it has been in terms of the buck simply not showing up and giving you your best effort. That's you make shots. You miss shots that's going to happen. It's part of the game. You're gonna turn the ball over. They're going to be matchups that you've got to figure out but this pure effort of we're going to close out on threes and we're gonna make them take contested shots. We're going to box out and we're not going to allow them to have second chance opportunities particularly when they're playing small. That is a matter of a sip of effort. And i think. I'm fully within my rights to say. I'm disappointed in the effort that the collective milwaukee bucks given so far in the series man fully within your rights i ratio ass. That's how i sound like a your logical fallacies is.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

Speak For Yourself

07:55 min | 2 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

"Unfair that might be. Honest to compo is a two time league. Mvp he is a defensive player of the year. He's a guy who won. Mvp defensive player in the same year. Yes i am going to judge him differently. Because no never seen devon booker. Chris paul even being serious conversation for either one of those awards and i've never looked at either one of them and said when is he going to win a championship because he's achieved just about everything else when he's gonna make good on that league mvp. I haven't asked that question. I have and deservedly asked that question about janas onto toco because of what he has accomplished. So yes it is fair to ask for more than what we saw. I loved what i saw. Especially the one the intangible the thing that we never saw from charles barkley we never saw karl malone and that was him demanding from his teammates in a huddle. And there's guys would do that for the camera. Janas doesn't have a contrived bone in his body that was not for the camera that was. I need to find a way to lead this team. And i've earned the right to do it. I loved seeing that. They're not going to get that from anybody else with these milwaukee bucks. I never saw charles do that. I never saw carl do that. It's why i have hope that jaanus at some point is going to win a championship but my expectation that he wins a championship. That is not out of line based on what he's accomplished man. Y'all breaking it down. Let's keep breaking it down. It's a fair question out there right now. 'cause i know it's been posed to me. Are they better without jaanus at times because certainly everyone come on. Hey i didn't say it was a smart game. no. I don't know but everyone else after see. This is the problem. People always think if you take us away. There's going to be this huge crater avoid but the other players will feel. That was something now. We've seen them filling holiday better right. We see chris militant steps up. I'll not saying they are better. I'm just telling you when he's not there somehow someway others they now. The genius occurs when he is president and they still are activated which may lend itself to some of the leadership issues or maybe just philosophy issues where they can't play optima basketball. I digress. but let's talk about janas because we do judge him correctly. And i love my boy. Alto cooking these books over here. 'cause jaanus in this series right now has plus for plus minus. What's his all right. Whatever is pretty good their loss to gays. And you gotta plug for. That's all right. Good that's gotta minus seven in the first half and in a plus levin in the second half so you start off slope now a team that needs their leader to come out there. Understand compromise with the knee injury. But let's get this started a little quicker if we must but you know what doesn't matter how you starts how he finishes shoot. Nineteen percent in these playoffs and fifty five percent from the free throw line is not helping your calls in terms of winning a championship. When you look at jaanus. The oddest reminds me of. I know we all got this family member and don't lie. 'cause y'all on tv who graduated but graduated from you know barely got into ju- cohen barely graduated right so we all go celebrate. We all going to sizzlers. We don't do that damn thing but why would he go to the bathroom. We like. i don't know how it is going to up like. It's like he graduated. Yeah this is great but like what the hell is going to come from. All this greatness as the conversation. I'm having to say when. I had scissors about my angle. Say his name on. Tv coming up. Is it too early to compare patrick. Mahomes tom brady interesting. Glasser that next. Don't speak for the bucks. Beat the chiefs in the super bowl a few months ago but that was not stop. Comparisons between tom. Brady and patrick mahomes. Cheese quarterback was recently asked if he and brady are becoming. Nfl's equivalent to lebron. james and michael jordan. He responded quote. Still early for the lebron michael jordan stuff for me. If you're in this league then you're trying to win the too early for patrick mahomes. Tom brady comparisons not at all. It's just on time right right on time. If if we can't compare you owe now. When do you want us to you. When tom brady has retired see what mahomes has to realize nothing. What we have realized is we never got to see jordan and lebron play at the same time. So instead we gotta make up these fictitious conversations. Imagine lebron would have been on the heat. Would they have one eight. Straight man of jordan would have been on the heat. Imagine if lebron would around the bulls rather enjoyed on the heat. We have to do all these fake narrative comparisons when with mahomes and brady. We've seen a matchup against each other and we look like dang mahomes you got knocked out the playoffs twice by brady boyd. Mahomes you gotta nfl mvp and a super bowl and super bowl mvp. Before tom brady ever had his nfl mvp regular season. Of course the comparisons have to come now because we're looking at maybe the most talented of all time versus the best or the greatest of all time in. Tom brady mahomes within a league of his own particularly at his age. And the first four seasons four quarterbacks have been multiple super bowls. Kurt warner russell wilson. Tom brady patrick mahomes. Well rested out the conversation because russ was not the guy that led his team to the super bowl. It was just a part of that. So of course we're going to compare the two in in mahomes and brady and more than anything from a home. That's a compliment. Your being compared to the greatest of all time man say like you said right on time. I love comparison. Ain't that the joy. I noticed the same. We always runway. But it ain't still nothing from me. bring up a name. That's going to tug at your heartstrings. Right down no because we are both in olympic mode and no we boycott and debit no. We ain't boycott area night. Oh no that fac- seventeen years young right. Broke you same boats. Two hundred meter world record for kids under eighteen. Think we comparing him you say about right now now if he finishes the deal and finishes out the comparison. That's what's on me to say. Wait a minute at the same as this. was this. so let's talk about tom. Brady and patrick mahomes at the four seasons. Do you patrick. Mahomes had a better win percentage. Yes he does. Completion percentage passing yards per game. More styles fewer interceptions. So many people say less is fewer and up better passer rating. Then tom brady the terrific. I was there when tom started. We saw it. We didn't see it coming. We saw was like damn new. England wins again. We england once again. Tom brady is getting better. Tom brady is getting better. But patrick mahomes you saw and you saw week coming so there are different because in their first four years but homes is street. Afc title games and two super bowl appearances. One victory brady made the playoffs in two of his three starting seasons. But here's the ticker tom brady. Say like jordan. When i get there we do the damn thing. And he won both of his appearances. That's the only slight on you right. Now patrick mahomes but no slight anyone who compares to got the bring in fox. Nfl analyst bucky brooks so bucky. Is it too early for patrick. Mahomes and tom brady comparisons before. I could even answer the thing. I want you to know not been blowing of non stop doggone joke. He's yelled that you put on instagram and twitter. I got my mom and talk about me. I got my kids and bears. I got my family members. Everyone's like you can't let them fire.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

Speak For Yourself

01:30 min | 2 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Speak For Yourself

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

04:20 min | 7 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

07:23 min | 7 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

"Your butt on both sides of the ball at might correct me. If i'm wrong but i don't think you'll lose any faith. I think he believes that. If i had my offensive line this game would have been totally different. If i have efficient left tackle a have mitchell schwartz. That right tackle. If i have a guy the opt out the doctor the opted out for covert in canada. If i have my guys. I like my chances to win this ball game but because i didn't i don't think he change anything nor do i think he should. He had to make those plays a lot of that sidearm stuff a lot of things that he was doing yesterday without necessity. And you can't when the office of line. I mean you take you in the shotgun and by the time you hit your third foot third back peddling and you gotta dodge a dodge dumbing sue and you've got to start retreating twenty thirty yards. It makes it difficult for you to play the quarterback with this you might. These are definitely waters for patrick. Mahomes and in kansas city chiefs. They haven't been through this type of turmoil got beat like this. Probably since he's taken over. Alex smith but i look back at you know just to sequence of games in the last you know six or seven weeks to kansas city chiefs head to bad weeks if you think about the super bowl and then the bobby coming into the playoffs sent that also wealth for them to kids the tampa bay buccaneers. They won the last three. They finished high and then they went into the playoffs and breeze breeze homes and it will aaron rodgers in a bowl. We stretch so in attain state hot. You know they they understood and knew exactly what it took the win these football games and they knew how to win the learn how to win together they jail and i think it was because it stretch at the end of the season was able to go into the postseason and wreak havoc in The kansas city chiefs resist the last and final team to get beat down and it was evident to the world last night three by weeks. Remember they took the last week off. I did didn't play. Tyreek been play and they had to buy week and then they had another by week. Okay now back to brady. I know the theme of the day is. Let's not give brady too much credit. Let's give it to left which let's give todd bowles. Let's give devon white. I'm good with that. Because brady doesn't need any credit but i'm going to give him a little more than you guys have. Because the thing about brady is he has no super bowl ego. He doesn't need to throw for a playoff record. Five hundred and five yards because that lost him a game. He doesn't need to throw a party to to show you that. He's better than patrick mahomes. He just needs to win the game and win it convincingly. So what did he do last night. Well they come out. And they try to take away. Mike evans and they try to take away chris godwin and he says well i got this old guy named gronk who used to be called the goat. I'll just feed raw feed the beast and show the bee's can still beast on anybody. And i'll throw some ab and throw some to my new friend. Linney and who's not so little in leonard fournette and will hurt you with those three if you take away my to it as i told shannon earlier. Michael if you told me. Mike evans wound up with one. Catch for thirty one yards. And that chris godwin had two catches for nine yards. I'd say oh no no because he will take whatever you give him and he will pick you to pieces and he didn't turn the ball over and he made some nice throws to walk when when they were utterly needed. Everything that he did was right on time so again his. Qbr was much higher than mahomes because he played a much cleaner game. Patrick when i thought that things get able to do because they were able to run the football so effectively in now the play action. Tom brady had more action than any other time. I think in the last five or six years. He's tremendous that play action. He also now he by the way ten to thirteen for one hundred and thirty five and three touchdowns all play action all play action. Which didn't exist in the offense until their late in the season by week week. Third so when you go you go at my but go ahead say and then i'm gonna i'm gonna cap it off. No i'm just saying when when you can do this. The play action. What he's so good at is that you can go twenty one or twenty nine for two hundred yards three touchdowns and not have the game. Oh man and you sleep brady but the thing that brady has learned to master is that you're right. I don't need four hundred yards if two hundred yards. Gets the job done what you got the job done by the way he didn't get enough credit. He's the greatest play fake i've ever seen. He fools me sometimes with his play. Fakes cabinet. Yup go ahead michael. And his word. Tom's the goat and we will never to be thankful able to watch. Tom brady and his play for two teams. So different conferences went to seven. Super bowls would never see this kid. I'll don't think in like tom. He's the greatest of all time. Ever be another quarterback amok my worst to win eight super bowls unless his brady. He's the only one that can do it. I'll think nobody ever get close think that conversation is over. I think we can slammed the door on it. Tom brady is the greatest is of all time and i think the next couple generations as they come they can face it. Never get there. But it's certainly a great opportunity to bid. Say a man. Like tom brady his accomplishment. Were you know what and forty years from now. somebody will diminish the scale because it's like bill russell. We didn't see bill window championship. Somebody win like four or five so by four or five lightning. Tom played football. They didn't even have to face masks back. But you're right. I think the thing is what's going to make it so hard skill. Tom has been the tin and he's one seven. Do you know how many you'll probably have to get to. Because he's what he did is winning like seventy percent normally you don't winds thirty percent of the super bowl his especially once you get to a certain number. Yeah so they'll have to level to twelve just to have an opportunity to twelve is when you actually sit down and think about it. You're right mike. Greatest of all time. We're witnessing history in the making and it has been a pleasure to watch. Obviously patrick mahomes not gonna be happy about that loss. Yesterday was last night. One patrick mahomes worst career games. Mike we appreciate your time and we'll check pay undisputed listeners. I wanted to tell you about our brand new fox. Sports app and website foxsports dot com reimagined for the modern sports fan. Go ahead download the new app right. Now you don't even have to pause this episode every day on the new app and website. 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Can The Philadelphia Eagles Fix Carson Wentz?

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

03:28 min | 8 months ago

Can The Philadelphia Eagles Fix Carson Wentz?

"Let's dive into carson wentz. And i'm going to look at this. I'm going to try to look at it very very simplistically is the carson wentz. A quarterback is the most important asset. A team can have in terms of their players. Right we all know that and when you factor in carson wentz how much the eagles spent for that asset right they trade it all these picks to get up to draft him then they double down and they paid them all this money so they draft capital. They've used financial capital. They've invested a lot. They've taken this asset and they've just pumped resource whoop whoop whoop and the. Our ally was not great this year and really the last couple of years given that he was hurt has not been ideal but this year was a disaster. His play was awful. He's not going along with people along with coach. Just a problem. So i think they have to ask themselves two things. If i'm howie roseman. i'm jeffrey lurie. I don't know if i really the new coach factors in. But he should. If you're renting high level organization should an opinion number one and this is why you hire this guy potentially can. We fix them right. We've invested all this money. Is it spilled milk. Is it over or can't our new coach. Can we get more town around him. Can we fix this player. is he. A fixable player because he's our asset right now now we could be open to getting rid of them for sure that would be just. You'd be negligent. you'd be dumb not to entertain everything but we have. He's on our team. He's under contract with philadelphia. Eagles can we get them back to what he wants was three or four years ago. Do we believe we can that to me. Is the number one question. You have to ask yourself not. Can we get value back up because if you get value back up then. He's valuable to us because he plays the position he plays. We want him on this team if his values up that means he's good that means we want just that simple. Do we believe if you just use it. One to ten scale. Right if mahomes rogers brady whatever top quarterbacks or ten out of ten we've seen mahomes have flashes of like eight or nine right now he's at to. The problem is repaying them like ten but his play his locker room stuff like a two or three disaster. Can we get them back to like a seven or eight. Because if we can then he's worth keeping only they truly know how they feel about that and if they are entertaining calls then i think there's a chance they already know the answer to one. They believe whether they're right or wrong. And they would know this once. They trade him. We don't believe we can fix them. So to if i am going to entertain trading. I have to ask myself this. Is it over. Because if i can't fix them dwi believe someone else can. Because i don't wanna deal like that would just be. I don't want to deal with him anymore. Because if i'm going to trade him i am basically knowledge ing. We don't believe we can fix them and we don't really like them around here anymore. Because if i do trade him to the niners to the saints. You know to the colts i have to come to grips with. He might be good. He might go from that two or three back to a seven or eight. Hell even a nine. I have to come to grips with. Once he leaves me he might be good again.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN

Sports 600 ESPN

03:54 min | 8 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Sports 600 ESPN

"I think it's a goat battles just like the quarter bags got nothing but major respect for Travis Calc Brooks. Career has been unbelievable. Unbelievable. Kelsey and Gronk, Mahomes Brady. So money marquee matchups in this Super Bowl for which we are just days away. As we know, however, this is no ordinary Super Bowl Week. Time for straight talk brought to buy straight talk. Wireless media. It's being done over. Zoom chiefs aren't even in town yet. And as we learned on Wednesday, the Chiefs may have dodged a bullet this week. We know backup center Daniel Kilgore landed on the covert list through contact. Tracing. Turns out he was in the chair, getting his hair done. When the Chiefs barber got his results back. He had tested positive ESPN insider Adam Schefter. The Chiefs were getting haircuts on Sunday in the facility with the barber that they had chosen who have been tested the five previous days and tested negative. But then his point of care test came back that day as he was going through apartments as he was halfway through the haircut of Daniel Kilgore, and essentially, he got pulled out of the facility because he tested positive. Now here's the kicker to the whole story. There were 20 players and employees, including Patrick Mahomes. Were lined up to get appointments with this hair cutter that day, so there are a close contacts in the covert world and there are close calls in the covert world. And Patrick Mahomes never got the chance to sit down with the hair cutter who tested positive that day, but there were a line of players and employees. Within the chief's organization who literally had 15 minute time slots to sit down with that hair cutter. That particular day. Kilgore was deemed a close contact anyway, so we just had the barber finish his hair chiefs looking for back to back titles. We know about tight and Travis Kelsey and Thursday on ESPN daily, the story of the Kelsey Brothers and how big brother Jason Pushed little brother Travis to be better along every step of their careers. ESPN DAILY Subscribe Wherever you get your podcasts Travis Kelsey, one of the many weapons the Chiefs have on offense, Patrick Mahomes at the helm of that offense, and they could put up points in a hurry. As for Kansas City's defense, they'll be looking to stop. Tom Brady. ESPN is Diana Russini. They're going to do everything they can do to disguise the coverage is because they're gonna try toe confuse Tom Brady. They're also gonna be applying pressure on a guy who's got some of the best pocket presence that any of the quarterback in the league take a listen to Frank Clark, though, describe why it's so hard. To take down Brady. You got these shows. Have you ever seen Tom Brady shoulders when he had that pocket? Come on, man. You're gonna put the film us for this. Y'all got attached to film me this video to the shoulders crazy sometime. I ain't got nothing against nobody, you know of a 43 year old age range around those age man should be able to move his shoulders like that is quite amazing. You're not escape artist, but it's like Man. He just good. Honestly, sometimes you just have to show I watch. I think this time watching the best you watch Tom Brady. Sometimes in that pocket, man. You can't tell the difference. It was a full minute talking about Tom Brady's shoulders. You know, Usually we're talking about his face his hair, his fashion. But, Michael, apparently you gotta watch out for that Brady ship me out there. And he's seemingly carrying the Buccaneers on those shoulders Teammate Levante David even saying that after they won the NFC Championship, there was another teammate with tears in his eyes over heading to the Super Bowl. Brady told him Stop crying. We're not done yet. Today to win over the Chiefs to cry those happy tears this weekend straight talk wireless, no contract, no compromise. Upset was the word of the night in college basketball. That's next SportsCenter all night. It's ESPN radio..

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

07:09 min | 8 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"That seems more conceivable. That's a little bit of an overreach especially given what lamelo in weisman look like now him going one seems tough it was. I honestly was tough and the moment i just felt like wiseman had to be the first pick. And if you're if you're reasoning as well we already have towns like well. That's another reason why i pick you have towns. You want nothing with downs. Those those two guys two of my favorite people to wash his white white just watching weisman kind of figuring it out and then the lamelo experiment. If would you if you were the warriors. Would you have taken almelo overweight at this point. Now now i think they re you know this is why the nba is the nba. The week continued to scr up and the strong continue to have breaks fall in their laps. This is the celtics sixers recipe for the first forty years of the league right. You'd think advantage of everybody else's dumb mistakes. I just feel like you can find edwards every year in the draft. Like if you think like his ceilings. Dwayne wade great. But you know. I can't find as wiseman yeah. I can't find guys like that. I can't find guys with hands like that. Who the size that. He has in the athleticism they they don't exist so if you're gonna pass on that it better be somebody who's awesome. I think charlotte was the one that really lucked out. Because it should have been wiseman. I thought how burton's should have been second I don't know if they would have the balls to take caliber over edwards but in general just at somebody made the decision for them and they got lamelo at three Was pretty cool. And i also really like patrick williams. I think he's just a winning player. Is a guy that can play forty minutes. You take seven shots so if you go like two three four. I like all those picks. I'm fine with those. That however probably should have gone seventh instead of hayes but the edwards one is the one that stands out as like yeah. This has been a surprisingly delightful draft class. And it's been nice. Because i think it's been kind of depressing season in some ways with all the kovic yet but to have all these kids come into the league and even like watching maxine watching richard. It's kind of fun to watch these dudes in the pistons. Bane on the on the grizzlies. I think has been good. I like a car on. The cavs is at least somebody that could play in. Crunch time and defend people I don't know i there's at least twelve is. I'm kinda surprised 'cause this was sold to us as a terrorist draft. Wait till next year to now it turns out that these guys are actually really fun. another guilty pleasure for me is the old depot contract drive now that he's on the rockets in general. Are there like a seventy basketball movie. It's like they're basically fish that say pittsburgh for two thousand and twenty one. Just everybody's on their own fucking agenda. That was the two things. I love right now. Are the. There's like a subterranean nba where there's like. There's all the people going for the championship. And then there's all the teams that are kind of like jocking for position and then there's like the rockets and the wolves and they kind of remind me of reading about basketball in the late nineties and early two thousand relic ryan. Saunders is like hey at least we're not cannibals you know these were not eating each other after we just like jesus. Is this what you're counting on and boogie and waller. China like william wallace and braveheart. And now it's just gonna be like three guys putting up twenty five shots a nights incredible stuff. Well if you're timberwolves fan you give wiggins the massive contract extension which is mistake number one. Then you compounded by trading wiggins you're excited to get rid of him and be like here will give you the top three pick protected. We'll get russell back. He's friends with townes. Say well awesome. Now you're going gonna be one of the worst of the west every year. Why why is this a good thing and then towns will probably you know two years from now on wanna ask out get out but i use that in the nba. Where it's the first mistake that leads to the even bigger second mistake and the reality is they might have like the fourth pick in the draft and it goes right to the warriors and especially with the with the lottery this year. You're not even you know ye. It's totally random. Who goes where you have the worst record in the league and be sex god. Let's talk to imagine for that franchise. They deserve so much better. You have more obsession for me. Last obsession of me just weird. Pelicans team that makes no sense. With the three three bigger players as your frontline and then two guards who can't shoot. And then stan van gundy who we spent you know the bubble playoffs with 'em as an announcer and i was annoyed by him around in the half in like imagine having him as your coach day in day out such weird team everyone falls over all over themselves to just praise. David griffin new. O'shea and tommy sheppard and all this. Gm's that are just friends with all the media people and it's like what is this. Pelicans team are you. Trying to contend. Are you trying to rebuild can zion and ingram play together have signed ingraham. Ken play together. Why is adams the other the centre with them. Like and then have no spacing. Because you don't have any guards who could shoot except wreck who you're barely playing like. What is what is this. It feels very much like a tv show. That has to star young actors. Who you know are waiting to get off their contracts to go into the movies and then like it's in season six and you're just texting your friends like am. I the only one watching this. Because there's something really strange happened here. I can't stop pelicans games. They're like they're not actually fun. But they're so interesting. Because you just watching like oh that. Who's that guy wandering around aimlessly on the baseline zion williamson like and then you don't like there are points where hill. He's had like a great week but you just know that they're not maximizing any one part of the team yeah just feels like the wrong team for him now not like forever. It's not the kind of nba team. I wanted to see him. And i wanted to see him on a team. Where it's like. There's just a lot of space in the paint. And he's shooters and he just says room to cook and this is like the opposite can adams like lumbering around with few people playing seven feet of lonzo balk as he just can't shoot anymore at all and i. It's just weird i there. He's like in anthony mason role or something like he's setting picks and getting boards and then gets like one or two like extraordinary dunks game but like he just seems to be doing a lot of lunch pail stuff and it doesn't seem nobody wants to say this it doesn't seem like he is jumping as high as he did at duke interesting. I test less. I just feel like the guy at duke. Seemed like he could jump actually over people who's playing. It's like it was conceivable he could dunk over. Do the fred waste once again. This guy is like eighty percent of that might be in. Yeah maybe entries. That are no. But i don't feel i was there for i had the front seat for the blake griffin when he could really jump for those clippers games and i thought zion was going to be and i don't think he's totally that yet but we'll see if it comes back. Yeah we'll have to see all right bill. Thank you so much for joining me man. It was good to see you all right if you enjoy the wringer nba show. You should be checking. That is checking out that checking out the mismatch. Checkout chris ryan on fridays with his new show. The answer chick ringer.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

03:16 min | 8 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"Without like some a ball. Ball hawking secondary guys can pressure the quarterback all that stuff. The bills didn't have anything today and look out for them so they have that piece they can make big plays which is good They can run the ball. Playoff lenny was okay. Today missed a couple of blocks Dropped a couple passes. Move the chains. But i think there are a worthy opponent. I don't think they're not going to get killed. Well studied the last super bowl right. I mean i don't know you're gonna say you're gonna chalk up that slow start to nerves for the chiefs but the the the forty niners played them. Great they're up with ten minutes. Left there winning the game right and Brady's bed garoppolo and all this other stuff so could be done. Can i just quickly go through some of the text. I was getting during the first half of that. Bugs game people just flipping out about how the patch did not break any more including people who weren't even pats fans in my life like brian compliments. Like i can't believe you guys let radios like when jerry got rid of jordan. I'm like there's more that went into this but you know. I think it's important for people to remember brady. Also wanted to go. The team wasn't good. He wants to keep winning. Super bowls wasn't going to happen with this team. The patriots had this year you saw year. I think the mistake was. He should have finished his career them they should. They should just give him a giant contract four years ago and never got to the point. Where if the team was a good enough and he didn't feel like bell check. We're cooking that he could leave. That's the whole point of taking care of somebody for the whole career. But there was something about him. They didn't want to do that. Bella check just didn't want to commit giant money them and sido listen buddy yourself because this is very very tough to get through. This is This is your girlfriend dating. I dunno christiano renaldo. Who will do what is this. The equivalent of your quarterback your lifeline. Going to the super bowl with another team dating. She's dating the bachelor. I'm not sure what this would be last but here. Here's the part where you can forget. I could still bet on him. Yeah quarterback for those three hours. Like i bet on my wife to have sex with her new boyfriend. Yes you can can. I have probably could actually all right fair enough. Maybe i could better that but yet like. I was rooting for him today. Like he was in. The patriots are jacci. But then you when your money and you're going to see him. Hoist that lombardi trophy winning like. Oh wow what happened. What just happened now i. I'm i'm at peace with it. I i was in so many brady arguments over the years with him versus manning and he's the best all that stuff so if he got his seventh i you know we got to refer for twenty years okay. I don't know why. I thought you'd be a little more upset. I thought each level it gets to be a different kind of hard punch. Got a little choked up when he hooked. Did you nice moment. His his sons twenty seven. He is right. Yeah sudden his segments working for the bucks player personnel but he came. Daddy hugged him. I thought that was a nice moment. Though for sure All right we're gonna we're gonna.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

06:51 min | 8 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast

"I had this bucks bills. Super bowl bet was twenty five to win. It wasn't twenty seven to one. It was twenty seven and one when we talked about an ipod. But got it in twenty five torn. So now i'm alive with it. And i'm heading into sunday and i'm thinking and a millionaire picks i took the bucks in the chiefs in my head on mike. I think the bucks are gonna win or come close and at the chiefs are gonna win. How do i hedge this. And i'm thinking about the packers and then all everybody else likes the packers. Then you told me the whole thing today about how this money came in on the box my head spinning so i decided to take so out of all the potential winnings i would have had for this bet. I decide to risk one third of it on his six appointees packers two plus three and a half chiefs do plus three and a half the thinking being if the packers win. I lose the bed anyway. now. I've covered at night the chiefs who i felt much better about than the packers. Box right There's a chance. I could middle it if the bucks win by one two or three. I win both bets. And i'm feeling and i really honestly felt my heart that it was going to be a one score game and it was going to come down the last couple of minutes So my this is the right move. This is this one we do. I play perfectly and the bucks went by five. And i lose that tees so now i've lost one third of my potential bucks bills thing and now i have the chiefs who the odds are climbing for them. Now they're minus one sixty so end up risking basically everything else. I could win on the bills bucks. Bet i do in a huge money line chiefs thing and it all played out where i ended up. Winning service probably won eight of what i should have won when when you add up all the bats and other losses to fight that and what i should have done is just bet on the bucks in the chiefs and taken that bet and just said we'll fuck it. That's over there that's happened. It's it's just in this alternate universe. Just play this like you would every week. Anyway it's it's just. I get paralyzed by these hedging situational. Because you wanna hit both right. You got that middle. That's great if they lose by field goal. You're the middle is what gets us every time in the on the other hand. If you had just gone packer straight up you would atalay a dollar eighty to win a dollar so you did better there right. You would have had two to one odds to recoup money on the packers which would have lost anyway. I really did like the bucks. The move should have been. I should have done nothing. I should have my bucks. Bills bet should have been the bucks pat. I should have rooted for the bucks to win. And then if they won just gone against it with the chief. So i liked marino to the second right. Yeah so then. The other thing i was going to do as i was going to bet in the second game i was going to do the same six nap point. Tease with the chiefs. And the over. 'cause i really liked that too. Of course. I didn't do that either. I would have been so much better off. If i just didn't have this. Bet all the bets. I wanted to do which the million dollar paychecks. I didn't do in real life. Because i had this other stupid longshot bed and i just hate these future bets hate them. Yeah that's true. Well was a my book. I lay it out. I don't i don't make compelling case because you and i are terrible at hedging factors right. It's different it's like you should first of all. Don't even think about hedging unless you stand to gain more than two to one. Odds are three to one odds right. It's stupid if your nickel and diming trying to get a middle on like a plus one forty or something. Secondly our well. You're doing in life where you doing okay and you you you. You probably don't need to hedge the guy who finds this ticket. Twenty-five homeless guy should probably sell it and go to vegas Third is like how do you do luck wise with this stuff. Us typically lose. If you don't hedge will then head right and forth is. Are you superstitious. If it's your team you know we had that one guy who had stood to one hundred thousand dollars on the saint louis. Blues a couple of years ago and he he was offered about sixty grand for the two hundred and fifty dollar ticket and he didn't take it because he was a blues fan. He's like everything i've done. You know i've done it right. I feel like i'm gonna screw up the mojo and he even though it made complete sense. He didn't do it. So there's a bunch of factors involved. But i remember one of my. I've had some bad hedging things and you covered some of your bad hedges. In the in your book i when i had the super contest in two thousand ten when i had a chance to finish like in the top six or seven and he came down to the sunday night game and it was seahawks. I think against the rams and it was charlie. Whitehurst was the quarterback for. I think i blocked most of this. Atta my mind i should. I should have had in made a real life to cover. So basically. I was covered either way. I didn't and then i went down in flames with charlie waiters The the the classic one because it also involved the future of the country was when we had the pats to win the afc. With hillary clinton in two sixteen and trump was like five to one two days before. And we're like should we had just the pats that are already quench. Cfc's the right now. We can't put money trump and then Then he came back and won and that was not a small bed. I i tell you. I had trump to not last the first term. And it's the most tumultuous bet i've ever had it was the i even odds two thousand seventeen february. All right. he's an office. He's going to do something crazy. There's this russia thing. I don't wanna get too political but as russia collusion. Everybody hates them. He can't shut his mouth. he's going go to war. Whatever you know. I could have won that game that that bet eleven times and then but i wrote it off as a loss until like he lost the election like we could lose his mind again. Get impeached like it was such a. I'll never have a roller coaster. Bet like that again in my life. But i don't think we ever see a president get impeached. If it didn't happen the last four years it's never gonna make it was impeached. What you mean kicked to actually leave the office. Because nixon reside nixon technically never had to leave. He could have just tried to fight it and take on everybody. Frat it didn't happen. It's very very difficult to pull off for sure but whitehead went. Kansas city. Preseason on faneuil was twenty nine to one that match up. Yeah if you just went brady mahomes which seem so. Not so easy but definitely a top five choice. They're twenty nine to one well. I'm sure we'll be talking about the super bowl for the next two weeks. I think one good thing. What else would you do. I think one good thing. If i'm tampa is at least my defense can do some stuff. I don't think.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

05:37 min | 9 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

"Like ever had a friend can't get out of his own way. That's cleveland like mean. Just think about this. All the playoff teams that get in one had a covert outbreak and a drag racing story. Total coincidence i know. Drag racing is overstated. But it didn't happen to sean mcveigh's team. We have roads out here too and fast cars. It didn't happen to chris. Ballard and frank reich steam the covert outbreak can't practice this week. it happened to cleveland. I know they get defensive. But if you lived in pittsburgh and worked in pittsburgh a steeler there would be no other way to view the browns other than browns the browns if you work in green bay. There's no other way to look at detroit. Lions lions and so. I know they get defensive about it. But it's like drag racing stories coach won't be available. How do you want pittsburgh. Cleveland how are they supposed to look at them. It's not like the been banned for a short stretch four decades last ten years. They've had like eight coaches and five. Gm's course the steelers look like losers. 'cause struggle i mean the only thing i worry about this weekend pittsburgh taking cleveland seriously last week. The steelers had backups. Playing best cleveland team in three decades. They almost one. I worry about steelers apathy. That's why i think it was big big ben and tj. The week off. they'll be back. They'll be rested. They'll be healthy and they'll want wanna prove themselves by the way. It's just what i'm about to say. We'll be viewed as a little thing. I of course do not see it as a little thing. Baker mayfield was talking yesterday. And i just want you to listen to what baker says just and play. I mean it's it's winter go home. So it's whoever we have out there. Were count on them and we believe in those people that are out there. So you know. We're still having to adjust and adapt but Just like last week. It's in the curb on just each day. Interesting wearing his hat backwards. What happened to carson wentz's season when he went to the podium with hat on backwards all your bad season unraveled and looked at aaron rodgers. This morning twenty two times. We have footage of him at a podium or on tv this year beanie or the hat on forwards of course backwards hat guy. That does it never gets it. Those who don't get it don't get they don't get it's not quarterback he'll i will tell you the quarterbacks. I like this weekend big band hat. Forward breeze always hat forward. Lamar jackson doesn't wear a hat. Couldn't find a picture. Brady last fifteen years hat forward. Goth plays hat forward and josh allen to this point though is young has been hat forward. We looked for all the opportunities. I know it's no big deal. Says the guy who wears the hat backwards. Look at that. That just says playoff loss doesn't it didn't that just say down. Twelve sack fumble minute and a half to play ben. Say playoff winner to me. Says things are unraveling in pittsburgh this weekend. Go ahead downpl no big deal. Yeah go find mahomes forward forward. That guy back headband. Not not opposed to headband. Opposed to beanie not opposed to hat last quarterback to where hat backwards at the weekly podium. One did it this year. Carson wentz look at what happened to his season. You guys say it doesn't matter. It is hat on backwards karma. It is bad another reason. I like the steelers this weekend. All right i've had too much fun this week to let you bother me now. 'cause i screwed up my twitter account and my phone. I don't even. I don't even read trolls anymore. I inadvertently changed my twitter account. I don't even know how i did it. I'm troll free. Blazing five next. Hi this is bowen yang here. And if you're as excited as i am about the upcoming fourth season of search party on hbo max then you'll want to tune into search party. The podcast in each episode. I go behind the scenes with the writers and actors of the disturbingly dark comedy and chap favorite moments and things with special guests celebrity fans search parties season. Four comes to hbo. Max on january fourteenth seasons one through three available now meanwhile subscribe and listen to search party. The podcast on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Contact world is a technology and media company dedicated to improving public health and our podcast is our opportunity to dive into hot topics that are relevant to you from contact tracing to vaccines to social racial justice. We may not have all the answers. But you deserve to know what goes on in your neighborhood and the decisions that affect you and your family's health. I'm justin back join me. And my co host catherine and deep d- as we seek truth in health listened to contact world. The podcast on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts..

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

05:19 min | 9 months ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

04:00 min | 1 year ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

"I was so I box is the most hog legal player to ever ever put. The Game Danny came inky has just two hundred eight passing yards yards in the niners to wins combine. This season. They might need more than that. A chance against the chiefs team averaging forty three points in the playoffs so Dana you win around on Jimmy able able to carry the niners to a super bowl win. I'm in I think in this is a lot of part. This is a trust and if Collin Fan John Lynch trusted enough to build him this franchise guys around him. That I'm going to trust that. He can they can help. Elevate him to the next level but we've also seen him do it before it is no easy task to go into New Orleans against drew. brees go toe to toe for him to need a drive to win the game in the fourth quarter and he does it. I think it's I think their game plan clearly would be. Let's try to steer away from. I'm not but if necessary I think could be Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah I agree with you. I think it's intimate as well. And when you look at his body of work over the course of the season so a lot of good numbers. There's a lot of good football. There's a lot. There's a lot of impressive things that he did. He does have a make. Something Happen Element to home. Where quarterback sometimes you make something happen for you and sometimes you make something? It happened for them so he'd have to limit those those critical mistakes for onto carrot eight. I'm out I that is not me saying I'm out on the niners ability when the game but if this becomes is Jimmy Garoppolo game they lose the they cannot win this game on the arm of Jimmy Garoppolo. They're going to have to win this game on the backs of their defense and in the running running game if he hasn't throw the ball thirty five plus times they're going to lose this football game all so I'm excited for the Super Bowl narrative as quite popped up yet whereas the bears there's taken trubisky over mahomes. The niners traded that pick. They got the third pick. They didn't have Jimmy G. yet. They needed a quarterback. They took Solomon Thomas who's probably been the least productive active. All those first round defensive Lineman when they needed a quarterback they could add MOMS or Watson on a much cheaper contract maybe even better team they have right now so I'm out. Oh for a number of her. That could have gone all the way back and taken Aaron Rodgers to true you know that narrative will exist onto Dez Bryant. Now he hasn't hasn't played in the NFL since two thousand seventeen but he is lobbying for return to the cowboys he tweeted. Give me the Whitton roll any you win around on Dallas signing. Ain't as Brian. I'm and bring them in see if he's healthy. Give them a chance. He's only thirty one years old. I think we forget that. Sometimes I know he's been out of the League for two years but but his position I don't think it's that crazy to think he can come back and get in football shape learn the system. It's a different coach with Mike McCarthy so I think you give him that. Least there's clearly. There's it's a better relationship than it was a bad relationship with Jason Garrett so why not bring it in. Yeah I'm out sometimes. When you have a break up you can be a little bit nostalgic about the person who broke up with there was a lot of stuff there that didn't work and try to to try to reinvigorate that? I think it's it's better. Just move on Yeah. I'm in I think. A lot of the beef there was with Garrick. Garrett's now gone. Also I do like the idea of having the exact Jason witten role meaning tight end. How does put on a little bit away? They need in tight end spot a little pass catching tight end saving blocking a bit but it is. Brian he was a decent blockers are wide receiver. Listen if Jason if the cowboys are into given jobs the guys who are way past their prime which they did with whitten. Why can't get on? That train. Does would not be less productive as a number three wide receiver than whitten was as one of their tight ends. I'm in give it a shot. Ah How that works. Mike McCarthy's doesn't have enough on his plate. Bring it's low risk. Lima Pam Minimum. See how he is. He how he gets in our reports that the bengals roles have already decided they'll take Lsu quarterback joe borough with the first overall pick a cow ever a bengals exempt disputed that report dating las Q.. U. Wayne around Attleboro being the number one pick in the NFL draft. I am.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

04:58 min | 1 year ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

"But it's still such a temptation because you know how dangerous they are no matter how bad things look all right. Let's stick with the chiefs who were playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in fifteen years. Thanks in large part that I number fifteen patrick mahomes and mahomes has been lights out this postseason. He did come up just short in the AFC championship game last year against Tom Brady and the Patriots but after that loss Brady reached out to Mahomes with some interesting advice take a listen. The biggest thing. That's that Tom said to me was just stay with the process. And keep being who I am. And that's that's important as guys had so much excess every single year. He's been in the. NFL is that he goes up there every single day. Any any treats it like like like like it's the most important day and so that's something that I'll try to do for my entire career. Nikki mahomes could eventually overtake Brady. As the greatest of all time I think it'd be foolish to say it's impossible. I the the only thing that will say I find to be impossible. Implausible is that anyone ever wins more super bowls or goes two more super bowls as a starting quarterback. Tom Brady did. It was as you said earlier. Dance the perfect storm coach quarterback organization tation some spectacular defensive coaches particularly early in the era. Great team. All around all of it that and some amazing fortune which you have to have in order to win when these things I know people talk about the helmet catch going against them but the the the you know the Tuck rule game that the different things that have happened that have helped them not handing off after marching inland to the goal line. Those things that led to it. No one's ever going to duplicate that. So in order to become the goat you have to get seven rings. The enters no. But I don't think you do because we have seen this happen in sports history before Bill Russell when he retired had more than anyone in NBA history had more championships than any organization organization in NBA history and won eleven titles in thirteen seasons. He had his version of Peyton manning that he went up into repeatedly wilt chamberlain. The guy who people thought. Oh he's probably more talented than I can do more but he always one and Russell when he retired. The thought was was the greatest player we will ever see and then multiple guys is have passed him despite not equaling his. MVP's Lebron doesn't have more MVP's and Bill Russell Lebron's got four despite not even coming close to his championships. Michael has six championships. Amazing Russell got eleven but the eye test the ability to do everything and just the gut feeling of why just think this guy was was better was enough to overtake the Rawal Ring Count. So is it possible. Yes what would it take a decade plus of Patrick playing at this level winning four super bowls currently zero and Marius. Ross winning winning three more league. MVP currently has one like all those things would have to happen. And so it's not likely it's not my pick but I can't dismiss it as a possibility coach. I think the difference between great and greatness is consistency. And and and that's what Tom was talking about with. Patrick is the process. And when you become more famous when you become wealthier when you have that success can you be the same guy that you were the guy the place that that put you in that position and it's it's really hard to do because there's so much pressure to to to do different things things and it's hard to wake up the same way with that same hunger. But that's what Tom has been able to do. So in order to to be to catch his greatness he's going to have to have that consistency over a very long period of time and we talked about a little bit of the perfect storm New England wise. There's a perfect rick storm in Kansas City. Wise you've got excellent coach. WHO's one without Patrick? Okay One with Alex Smith. We've got two unbelievable offensive weapons when he came into. You've got a guy who's WHO's very mobile and as we talk about the future. Tom Losing his mobility. That didn't affect anything. That was never part of his game. Patrick if he loses mobility due to age and time I think that's going to have more of an effect on his game so can he ever catch him of of course someone's going to catch him because this great athletes that come up every every generation you wanNA look at it. We're always saying no one will ever catch pets. This person and then someone catches that person. Could Patrick be that guy. He's shown a lot of a lot of traits and just like Tom Show traits early in his career. Now the question is is he gonNa be great or is it going to have greatness and he had that consistency to make that joke. I'm not GonNa lie when I saw this topic I was like Oh no this is going to be annoying coming because I don't think it's too early and there was a contest yesterday. When you watch nationally the conversation it was who could make the strongest case that Patrick Mahomes says he's going to be better to.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

06:52 min | 1 year ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

"NFL resume and when asked about this Brady said he was quote open-minded about playing for a team. Other than New England. Danny think I think the Patriots Need Tom Brady more than he needs. The New England patriots is a great question. I think it's really really hard to answer. I'm going to say a a brady needs the patriots more than the Patriots need him because the Patriots have forever right as long as the. NFL exists they have they can can start over and they can take a year or two and they've had so much success now Bella check is getting older but you still if he wants to. He could coach another ten years easily. Belgium spell checks got more time as an elite head coach. His Greatest Brady is. It's I think Peyton manning this may be one of the most impressive things. He did his point and his career was to go somewhere else with Denver. And all of a sudden just you know win another MVP and start another super bowl and just keep keep the thing rolling if you go somewhere else in your Tom Brady. And it's a totally new cast. It's a totally new locker room environment. Because I think Brady fits perfectly. It's perfect marriage and I think it's one of the reasons bell check has has been able to keep up. This high intensity high pressure high expectation. It's our way or the highway. The Patriot way. You can go somewhere else. I don't know in today's player now. There will be an instant respect for Brady in the locker room but that stuff gets old. I mean how many players we leave the Patriots. Say I wasn't a lot of fun and it is great eight to win but on some players it rubs them the wrong way and they can't do it. I don't know if that travels as well as Tom Brady. May think it does and then you combine that with how how hard it is to implement a new system. Does he have the right offensive. Lineman does he have the right weapons around him as their defense. All of those so I would say brady needs the patriot. Well I do wonder if Brady would want that to travel title or wouldn't say after twenty years boot Fan. I wouldn't mind a little summer camp. You know what I mean. I wouldn't mind a little more of a lax environment and it's not like the Patriot. Way Wins is all the super bowls. It's one more than anyone else. But we did see the eagles who had a little more lax environment only win the Super Bowl. One is to rule beating the Patriots. But the question JANAE neither need meet each other anymore was in. The kids are in college. The House is paid off. You've grown apart. It's time to move on for the best for the for the better part of all parties like that's that's listen. The Nets were. That's where I I don't think so. I think they need each other. And they'll come to that realization wants the death settles and Brady shops around and the the Patriots look at the draft options are look at free agent options there. They're going to come back see idol. I think there's a strong case to be made for them staying together other than install Java other than we feel like man Brady should be a patriot and the Patriot quarterback Tom Brady because right now. The Patriots need to massively Lee Retool on offense I believe they need a massive reach belt. It will rebuild when you've got when you've got Belgium because you're coaching even even to the level that it is and you play in the east where you're six wins and I know Buffalo's coming and Brady needs. He needs weapons any needs respect and the lack of back from whoever's going to employ him. I thought what happened. This off season was one of the most. It was the most those flagrant instance of disrespect since Jerry Krause and REINSDORF Jerry. Krause pardon me with the Bulls said to Michael Jordan a e win or lose final year. This were breaking this thing apart. And what did Jordan say said BLEEP. You all leave and everyone left. And then he by the way Jordan still wanted to keep playing and we know that because he came back from the wizards but it was brady and just one of his six super bowl. He was a year removed from winning his third league. MVP He had gone to three consecutive super bowls and he said more soup lease and they said Nope. Get the hell out of here with that and when you look at the money. I don't think the Patriots are going to want. Did they didn't WANNA pay him. Twenty five plus million this past off season when he was coming off a better year with the team was coming off a better year and I just want the audience understand what twenty five million means in the NFL. These days in Twenty Twenty Russ Been Golf. Rogers Wins Ryan Mahomes into Sean incorporating. They're extensions are all north of thirty. Derek Carr Matt Stafford Jimmy Garoppolo Kirk cousins drew. brees assuming he comes back and Dak Prescott. What they're all north of twenty five? So I've now listed fourteen quarterbacks Alex Smith Joe flacco Nick Foles Cam Newton on an expiring deal or all north of twenty so now. We're at eight eighteen quarterbacks. That's everybody that's the holy of the rookies and guys like Philip rivers or Jameis Winston. I didn't who don't have contracts right now. So if the Patriots come to Brady who made twenty three million this year after making fifteen million each of the previous two years and offer them the the same salary so he is looking up at Joe. FLACCO looking up at Alex Smith. Looking with Nick foles. I would feel incredibly doubly disrespected if I were him. I would not stand for it and he shouldn't but what happened to the narrative of Brady always plays for less because he wants weapons around like. When did that change all the sudden? When did it become come disrespectful season it did it absolutely changed this off season which I'm a little bit curious by? I think he will realize again. Maybe it's better to play for a little bit less. And why because I don't think they have to retool. I think there are three pieces away. An offensive lineman tight end and wide receiver to add to that mix. I don't think it's a complete re hole. But if they can do that and he takes takes a little bit less and he doesn't mind looking because you can be looking at a seventh ring. Then I think it's a different conversation two points as quickly one is one thing. Take a little bit less right. It's another thing to be. The twenty-first paid quarterback in the League in thirty two team League. And if you come to me Danny and not that you ever would. But just as a for instance say nick. It's embarrassing. I'm in a bad spot. Can't make the kids tuition payment this year. Can you spot me some money and loan you the money. And then you the I I find out the kids are in public school. And you've got a new bins. I'm of the angry by gave money patriots to give me weapons and you gave me. Who Matt Lacoste? Mohamed Mohamed. Sanu on a on a cheap deal. You traded for Brandin cooks and I loved him and we made a super bowl together and you're traded him away because you didn't WanNa pay him so the money I mean giving them by Dinky would argue has not been spent the way he would have been led to believe it would be spent. I think the thing that Patriot fans do not wanna see. It's Tom Brady. Go somewhere else. Or maybe they do and they don't even make the playoffs and then it adds really day in that Brady or the Patriots. Definitely Brady I think Patriots fans I think fans ending football apple fans. Don't want to see him. Go somewhere else and then come up shy and then have you boys..

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

04:18 min | 1 year ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

"To will more go to knock off the list make. What do you think is super bowl? Win for Andy Reed's legacy oh I mean he need to me clearly becomes the second best coach of this generation of from two thousand and two now the last twenty years I of course. Yes yes obviously well behind bill. The only one coach has other than Bell Check Multiple Rings in the last twenty years. Tom Coughlin I read is actually better coach than Tom. Tom Coughlin but it's hard to make the case when Tom's to Andy's got none. But Tomlin's got one McCarthy at one you know what I mean you go down the list. Holmgren who coached in the ninety S I and thousands as the one championship. It's it's hard to find a coach that would have a better resume if they win this championship. He Don. I'm sure George Halas Bill Belichick. Tom Landry curly. Lambeau that's the full list of coaches with more wins than Andy Reid with a higher winning percentage they need to read. It's just those five guys. One guy's got a field named after one guy got the iconic at bell checks. The Goat Shula the undefeated season hallow's also got a field named after the those are. That's the Mount Rushmore coaches plus one and he's the next guy statistically on that list I'm not saying sixth-graders coach ever but put a super bowl championship mint him as a no doubt hall of fame coach and validate what has been a C- a career. Danny Twenty one years coaching in fourteen. Fifteen playoff appearances. Fourteen double digit win seasons only three losing seasons just a stellar resume with the one. Yeah but that could be erased in twelve died. I think I might have said yesterday. He's a hall of Famer even without the super bowl taking that back. I might take that back because we're looking doing some research before you look how small the list of coaches in the hall of fame is and it's and it's just one of the things that frustrates me. The most in today's sports conversation. How much chew need the championship to cement the legacy to cement your reputation and as much as I appreciate Travis Kelsey getting out in front of it and saying hey? I'm tired of hearing people say that if if you want to change the narrative you actually have to change the narrative by proving people wrong in actually getting the win because unfortunately people won't appreciate the consistency with with which one which might be more impressive than a lot of coaches in the hall of fame when you consider the fifteen out of twenty one years. That is impressive. Is Insane the the consistency with which you're getting your team in a position to win there if he wins this one. It's a lock though and you know what his best argument is as saying. Bill Cower just just got in why would not. He's got well over. Fifty more wins than him. He would have equaled the Super Bowl. Total net your greatest case as saying well if he got in you have after put me in and he would so I think super bowl cements it. I don't think if he leaves it out. I think the narrative continues as unfair as it may be. It's just what we do and the shorts lexicon now but just quickly because when we talk about Andy Reid especially as the season gets closer to the end we always talk about end of game mismanagement with a time. When we talk about the monkey off Andy tweets back? We never talk about why. He's such an incredible coach. Just give us a line or to the case for Hale Will Hall of fame right now the the case where right now is the fifteen team playoff appearances fourteen double digit win seasons which is insane. He's got five years. He was one in the playoffs but he's got four years. He Won Multiple Playoff Golf Games. So to me. Those almost cancel each other out but the biggest non-playoff cases this. He's one of the greatest of innovators in the history of the sport. He he what he has done and he has not always had Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. Right he got the chiefs of by with Alex Smith. He Donovan mcnabb. It was a very good quarterback. He got the absolute most out of Donovan. mcnabb he has been able to do at in with multiple quarterbacks in multiple situations. I think you saw this year. They want it. They beat a playoff team with Matt Moore quarterback in a game where the deepens wasn't it's not like they held onto three points he the way he plays the way. His players adore him the way he is just one of the greatest offensive line. We've ever seen that's the case absent of the coaching tree..

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

10:19 min | 1 year ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on First Things First

"Good morning to walk on first things first. I'm John Wolf. That is nick right. Danny Canal Knell is with us. This morning what's going on Today on Marie grain. We are only two weeks away from the Super Bowl. There are a a ton of storylines to dive into this morning. We're going to start on your corner Nick Right. Kansas City chiefs chiefs are playing for Lombardi trophy for the first time in fifty years. Thanks in large part to that guy right there. Patrick Mahomes and on the homes has been lights out this postseason he did come up just short in the AFC championship game last year against Tom Brady and the Patriots but after that loss Brady reached out to Mahomes with some interesting advice take a listen. The biggest thing that Tom said to me was just to stay with the processing. Keep being who I am And that's that's important as guys had so much excess every every single year. He's been in the. NFL is that he goes up there every single day and he he treats it like like like it's the most important day and so that's something that I'll do for my entire career nick when you look at a guy like Patrick mahomes what he's done so far in such a short amount of time do you think he could eventually overtake Brady. As the greatest of all time I think there is such a fascinating question because at first blush you say well On one side of the ledger. You've got Patrick. Mahomes who I think. A lot of people are already starting to say might be the most those talented physically gifted quarterback checks every box. We've ever seen on the other side. You've got Tom Brady. Whose resume winning resume to go along along with the statistical resume almost assuredly will never be matched and you would say well then no? It's impossible. He has amazing numbers to go along with nine Super Bowl appearances in six championships. No one will ever do that again. That I'm very confident in but does that mean no one could ever through the lens ends of history. Overtake him as the greatest quarterback ever dating. I think it could happen. Because we've seen it happen in another sport Bill Russell title when he retired and more. VP's anybody ever had eleven championships in thirteen seasons. He even had his version of Brady Manning. The Russell Wilt where there was another guy in the same era who a lot of people thought well. He's he should be better than Bill He. He's more physically gifted he can do more four yet. This guy one more. This guy was more well respected by his peers. As far as who the best of the era was and when Bill Russell retired I imagine if these types of shows existed the conversation would have been. Well he will go down in history no matter how long history goes as the greatest every eleven championships his five. MVP's but right now in two thousand twenty. Do you ever your anyone say bill. Russell is the goat even if maybe he should make the argument people say Jordan passed him Lebron past them. Some people say Kareem even magic. Some guys have him outside of the top five so I sailed. Let's say this if Patrick Mahomes wins a handful of rings doesn't have to win six and continues to do things on the field. We've never seen anyone else do. Is it plausible. Is it on the board yet on the board is the less than ten percent chance of course but I can't I can't just dismiss it as impossible because I do think it's impossible. He gets the six championships you know. I think we have to be careful because watching Ching a lot of shows listening to a lot of shows. Yesterday it was almost there was this contest of who could save the most or who could make the most outlandish statement about how how Great Patrick Mahomes is going to be. And I don't WanNa be in that camp and even like now on the fly. I think you make a really good case about why. Hi It's possible and why you could conceive that Patrick mahomes could at some time because you are a hundred percent right. I don't I don't think there's any chance he gets sick. Super herbals or sane and it was the perfect culmination when it all came together with Brady tied with Bela check the mindset which is a very rare just intense focus to sat. You have to make a lot of sacrifices to have as much success the Patriots do. I don't know if Patrick Holmes wants to take that approach where he's going to give up a lot of off seasons give up some money financially. Or if Andy Reid wants to do that at this point in his career so from that standpoint. I don't think it'll ever be matched. There are much like you've you've made the case for Lebron greatest fall time and yet there are some people that will simply refuse to say you know what unless he has six rings he's not greater than Mj. And I think that will be there will always be a camp that falls in that line but just the same way where I do by into your argument. Michael Jordan Changed People's minds because he did things that were so impressive athletically like it was so great when he retired the first time before four six rented chats when he had three rings that statue outside of the United Center said the greatest of all time and no one denied it. Magic had five bird had the same number rings cream had six but it was like. Oh I test. This guy was just better than all those people at some point. The eye test can overcome some of the other thing and I don't think that's a crazy argument. I don't think that's making some I'm hype hyperbolic statement just to come out in strong supportive. Patrick mahomes because we've already seen clearly. He's playing the game differently than anybody. We've seen before in the history of the game including Tom Brady and Tom Brady. And this is where I think Tom Brady. Will struggle ever to become even if you've got a seventh championship inch if you would become the greatest athlete in the history of sports. Because what he does. athletically isn't super impressive right. We've seen other quarterbacks and even in in his prime it's not like he's running away making crazy throws off balance now. It shouldn't take away from his accomplishments. But it's just a different type of conversation worries mahomes. It's like if he gets half of those I think three rings and you start racking up multiple. MVP's then I think it's okay. We can look at this six game changing era defining type of player where all the sudden. Maybe we start looking at Patrick. Mom's insane this kid could be great but the other thing its own president. Tom Brady is what he's done it. Without a boatload of weapons around him year in year out he may have once twice along the way of Randy Moss or something like that he had gronk for a while. But but what we've seen so far from Patrick mahomes while the team isn't paying him a ton of money is that they're able to pour money into all the weapons around. Patrick Mahomes can mahomes do it for a a long time. If he is going to take the two hundred million dollars that they're not gonNA have a ton of money to give to a tyreek hill or to assay walk INS or whoever they're gonNA make as his speed guys which which right now you see Patrick Mahomes at least in the last two years really relies on that part but one of the reasons he has relied on. That part of the game is because he does not have what Brady had I I. Three Super Bowls Does Hall of famers all over on the defense The greatest maybe defensive coach in addition to the greatest coach ever so the the the narrative on Brady that he he hasn't had enough. Help is one. Maybe it was true this year but I think over the tenure of his career. He's been paired with the greatest coach we've ever seen. He he had defenses with Richard Seymour and tie long lawyer Milloy before they got rid of early on he then did have Randy Moss. Maybe the second best for some would argue second-best receive revolt. I'm certainly a top five receiver of all time. He then had the entirety of arguably the greatest tight ends of all time his career with him. So the idea that Brady's been starved of opportunity. And I'm not saying that's what you're saying I he obviously. It's been a long time since the embarrassment of offense of riches Patrick Mahomes has had but he it's also been a very long time. In fact one could argue. He's never had a defense as bad as what Patrick Africa last year. Or maybe even this year like this year the chiefs evens came on strong late with the first. Three quarters of the season was a bottom six defense again. The Patriots events almost never liked that. So it's kind of how you want to win Games and the style points to go along with it. I think there are two biggest issues that could crop up with Patrick mahomes. As far as how he wouldn't overcome or significant obstacles would be one is injury the fact that Brady only missed one season in two thousand eight years is pretty that blows my mind in itself we already. They had packed molten. Patrick Mahomes miss some time this season the other is and this is one thing that I don't the net push back a little bit is how many different rosters Brady. It has been able to bring to a super bowl into this will not the crew here with tyreek Hill and Kelsey and mahomes. I don't think that remains intact attacked with the salary cap for a long long time where you could see that. So if homes can do this with multiple rosters with different weapons that he's working with then then that makes his case which you would have to another component is this. I am curious now that NFL money for these guys is not that dissimilar we're to NBA. Money I am sure is if you don't have more guys saying man. A hard ten is good enough. Absolutely you know what I mean. We're that age thirty two. I won a couple. I believe you if you want a couple of championships won a couple. MVP's if you've made three hundred million dollars if you don't say you don't see NBA guys. Walk away early even though the money so big because the risk of injury is so minute if it's an injury it's going to be a knee ligament and not something that probably GonNa address them to change your life. I do wonder if you're going to the Brady breeze. He's era is also going. The last era of quarterbacks saying let me saving twenty years out of this and that is something that Brady has been able to do it a higher he you want an MVP and his age forty forty season. I think it's a I think any quarterback right now that has recently come into the league is a huge underdog to play their age forty season even if they could just. Because I don't know if the incentives are aligned so there's all those elements right now. I'd say it's a two percenter like there's it's about a one in fifty shot. Brady radio an overwhelming edge and by the way Patrick hasn't even won his first super bowl yet. He's got to wait at least twelve.

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"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

03:49 min | 2 years ago

"mahomes brady" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed

"The browns and ahead of the AFC North match of this weekend Baltimore Safety Earl. Thomas said his team was tired of the media talking about the lovie Jay and Baker connection all the QB has been dubbed as the savior. Meanwhile Baker Back Rex Ryan after Ryan called him over overrated as help on Monday. Take a listen to this was worth around. You don't matter Rex Ryan Cold Yeah Shannon. Did you like Baker responding to Rex Ryan. They're talking to feel you know what I didn't hear when everybody was saying Baker Mayfield is going to be an MVP because Vegas Baker Mayfield getting heavy money bit but he's GonNa be MVP. Rex Ryan said Hell. I even bought the height. The bake feels they said not to the point. I thought he's he's out brought into it. The Baker Mayfield says there's a reason that's the reason why then have a job in the NFL because he believed I could be because he believed that I was a I was talking yesterday muscles with is in Detroit skip and she says she never notice when people things go wrong and people like God who want me not one time when things go well if they got why why you do this to me. Why are you giving you all these blessed. Thank you thank you but you don't ask why why you left me like there but but you should ask you to go the other way and what criticism. Oh he there's a reason why he out of the League. There's a reason even why not go to give credit where you give credit now one time. Do you hear the play. Oh I see what I got. He will be pretty cool. Do we got a pretty good team. Have you heard I heard it. The expectations is what's what's got this team because nobody thought anything last year so everybody can be free now what we have what we call expectations division De. LEU LABIANCA. Ab implodes maybe what's is going on there. Lamar Jackson Kenny Kenny be good. We already know what day it will be nothing anyway who did beg a time to sign and now all of a sudden but let me tell you one thing. Oh becky said words afraid of kitchen where in the Worthy Shannon Sharpe in the fridge kids and they'll start winning games. He'll be an abroad and orange. That's the word of the Santa Shop again again. Baker Mayfield wins them gave he ain't going to be in abroad and orange so you believe that to turn on the the No. I haven't talked you just crushing. No no no no no. Let me tell you let me tell you if somebody would say Shannon Sharpe. It's over rated today. I wouldn't say the word you know what I don't get gone bad already go. I would've been okay different response but if they did it now you'd fire right back. Oh Yeah Oh yeah who are you all the time. Oh you deserve that job you qualified. I'll say God gave nor arc. He wanted a carpenter. I'll build a you know what how any bill he did anyway. I got a little boy animals coming coming to your defense right whole animal kingdom is coming to your defense. Yes picturing that right. Okay I disagree with you you this time because usually I be all for everything you just said because any other quarterback in this league I'd say ignore. The noise shutout the criticisms..

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