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Episode 170: Magic Mike + Magic Mike XXL

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Episode 170: Magic Mike + Magic Mike XXL

"Hello everybody welcome back to the film. Buds podcast this episode number. One hundred and seventy and my name is henry. And i'm paul this week. We have another retro review doubleheader fauria kind of playing off the the show. We did a few weeks ago on spring. Breakers showgirls. This time around. We're talking about magic. Mike and then magic mike. Xl and so. That's going to be a great time. I'm excited to talk about those and then for news we have some new trailers like vim. Let there be carnage the forever purge and there might be some other stuff in there And if we have time we might get to a listener question but we might just say that stuff for next week. You know so. It's should be just fine. i hope so. Yeah thanks again for joining us. Paul a power you. I'm doing pretty well You know you had mentioned just before. We started recording. That it had been sort of a longer week for you than you had expected or busier. Week i guess. And i feel kind of same way you know. I ended up getting like magic. Mike during the week but i watched magic mike two and finished at about twenty minutes ago. Same so you know i was. I was honestly like geez. Am i gonna make magic. Mike experts ellen times it was a little bit of a long one but It's been pretty good. How about you. Yeah been all right i i finished with school. So that's officially done. So i'm i'm happy about that and yeah i guess for people who did tune in last week i recently joined the air force so i'm kind of preparing for the app And just getting a little bit of time off so that's that's nice detoxing somewhat what's air force prep like. Well i'm i'm trying to qualify for special warfare and so it's pretty intense. I have to pass have passed one fitness test already. I have to pass at least one or two more. So it's you know four or five days a week of you know like running and swimming and push-ups and sit-ups all that stuff so i've been doing it for months now so it's not all that strange but it is. It can be tough to be consistent and diligent with it. You know over time. And i mean gosh. I'm twenty seven paul. I'm an old man. So i feel like i've already been starting to feel the pains and things that i didn't have a couple years ago so but so that's been going fine and yeah so you know. Yeah plugging along paul. Yeah other than that. I don't think i have too much. No updates about my candy purchase. I i've kind of left with the bazooka. It's sitting idle over over my bedroom here. And i've gone through everything else so time to restock at some point i fun dip. Yeah pop rocks may be your you know something can out there but yeah we'll paul anything else you want to mention man before we before we get started No i think that al al save some of the other stuff for later. Okay sounds good all right. Well yeah with with all that said. I guess we can jump into our first review. Which is magic. mike and we do have a clip. So take a listen miami looking good. Got a couple of loopholes. Gotta get through with the real estate attorneys down there but after that it's gonna be all green lights. What you need from me was muscle. Gotta keep doing heads out you. Focus a big brother this team. You keep that up. You're going mega a lot more than this door. Money again. That equity kid. You say all right So magic mike was released in two thousand twelve. It's directed by steven soderbergh. And it stars. Matthew mcconaughey channing. Tatum elemmann alex. Pedder for james martin. Kelly cody horn reid. Caroline I love you know. Vm in there My getting anybody big riley cough technically gets a title card at the end. So i guess technically yeah Joe manganelli can ever say his name right and some other people but you can. You can do that research on your own. Gabriel delays ceus. Oh yeah and the synopsis is a male stripper teaches a young performer. How to party. Pick up women and make easy money. So yeah we'll paul. You had suggested we we do these. These two films would. Would you like to kick things off your tells your background with these films shore So i i hadn't seen either of them before now and yeah and so my whole idea was really. You know we went. We did show girls weeded spring breakers. Which a lot of people you know decries exploitation of And so i was like you know. Let's go and do something. That's meant to sort of counterbalance that and the first thing that popped in my mind was magic mike and magic mike. Xl great name. love that title. 'cause really like are you supposed to call it. Max like magic mike. Extra large is supposed to call it. Magic mike double xl lake. There's there's i've only heard. Xl which to be honest. I actually do genuinely like okay but So i think it's clever but you know it doesn't i think roll off the tongue particularly well so going into it. I knew that it was soderbergh. Film earliest the first one was and i knew that he was someone that i generally generally like does a filmmaker. I enjoy contagion. I like ocean's eleven and thirteen. I wasn't forgetting twelve ulf. I don't enjoy it. i side effects haven't seen it. it's good stuff I really enjoy. Logan lucky so i really enjoy. Soderbergh is a filmmaker. He's very very distinct kind of curious. I was like you know if this is something that had soderbergh's attention you know. I'll i'll i'll give it a watch and for the most part. I actually think that it's pretty successful. I think that it has some foibles. I think that it has A little bit of plotting as problem and time as an issue. It's a little bit long in the tooth for me but honestly i was actually pleasantly surprised by the first one how. 'bout you first of all. Where does that that phrase come from long in the tooth. You know honestly. I'm not sure if anybody knows out there. Please let us know my my general guess is that it's it's probably about like you know to the extraction You know and like it being like a really painful. But that's just a wild stab. Yeah let let us know anybody out there if you know but yeah so anyways. I'm similar to you. Where i'm a big steven soderbergh fan. I love the informant. That's my favorite. All of them. And i've seen i think pretty much everything he's done and i didn't see this one until years later. I think it was kind of marketed as for lack of a better term. Like a girls night out kinda fell. Mike strippers you know. And which you know. Nothing wrong with that but i think that similar to spring breakers a lot of people that i talked to you and and read about. We're kind of disappointed that it was not really that necessarily there is stripping and there's a sexual side to it but there's a lot more there than you would expect and it's really more of a satire than anything else as well as a character study. You know movies a lot more thoughtful than you would think but overall i. I really do like magic. Mike a lot. I think it's kind of underrated. I think channing tatum. I think at the time this came out. He was starting to break out of his shell a little bit. I don't think people took him all that seriously at this point but i think soon after he had like side effects fox catcher and a lot of great roles and i think he's very good at this. I mean for one thing. He is a really good dancer you know. He does dancing himself and he is quite good at it which adds a lot to his character and the film i think also matthew mcconaughey is incredible in it so funny so charismatic and that character is great. It's one of his better looking movies as well. The and the yellows are great. He shot himself and edited as he does a lot of a lot of the time. I think there are a couple issues with it towards the end that we can get to. But i was really surprised about how much i did like it when i first saw it and i still. I still really like it now. No yeah so. I was one of those people who didn't necessarily take channing. Tatum particularly seriously magic. Mike i think was still around the time where they were discussing about There were rumors of channing. Being gambit right in a gambit moving on and i hated that idea he was certainly never performer. That really latched onto to me. Especially because you know. I didn't give a shit about the step up movies biden. Give a shit about dear. John so like he had never really done anything for me. At that point where i was like wow channing and so since then there have been more performances of his that i have enjoyed like fox. Catcher like logan lucky. And so coming into this. You know i wasn't quite sure what what to expect. And he was very naturally charming. You know he. He had effortless sort of chemistry with just about. Everyone and i was really surprised. And i was like this is what steven soderbergh saw. You know this is. This is one hundred percent what he latched onto in this actor and i thought he was super successful released surprised mcconnell as great honestly the thing that hurt the movie the most for me and it kind of gets into some issues of what happens later in the in the movie is that it does become a character study. That's fine but alex peifer and his whole journey for me was kind of a wash. I didn't know why i should like him. He didn't have any of that charisma for me. And i just kept on hitting points where i was like. Let's get back to. Let's get back to channing. Show me channing. Making table exactly instantly is talking about. That is the prime stuff in the but you know he keeps on talking about like. Oh yeah i do. All of this. Like reclaimed furniture reclaimed material pieces. But you know it never felt like he was anything more than a stripper and so you know some of the characters study stuff that comes later for me didn't really land because i didn't give much of a damn about alex pedophile and especially in the third act. I found it very start to like sag. I thought that was a very saggy. Third act for me. And i was just like can we just focus up a little bit more here. Yeah i totally agree. I think my biggest issue not to go and jump to the very end. But i think that my main issue with the plot is i. Don't totally buy channing tatum. Who kind of takes alex's pets For under his wing. Kind of like a you know rise and fall stars born kind of deal I don't buy him giving all of his money away to this kid to bail. Come out when he's dreaming of having his own company and i don't buy his total devotion to this guy after a fairly short period of time and it like that kind of fell out of character for me. Yeah and. I think that they try to paste over that by being you know he. He's talking to the sister later in the sisters. Like i didn't know about the money and he's like i didn't do it for him and i feel like they try to paste over that but sort of the issue is You know not too many spoilers. This is actually a really interesting sort of case study in wear like scripting just doesn't work so toward the end of the film. The young stripper is in dead. Four palette of ecstasy that he went into with gabriel glitziest. And the guys come to not the apartment that he lives in but the place that he sometimes stays. Which has channing. Tatum's home. They don't find him. They can't reach channing. They don't find money so they literally just ransack the whole place. He then willingly gives them ten grand out of his like thirteen grand. He has saved and then he goes and looks sister and gives her align that implies that he did it for her the guy lives with his sister if the criminals gone to the apartment and it was the sister being roughed up. Now here's the thing folks. I can't help that this is wrote. I can't help. This is trite and made a little contrived but the problem is this is about stakes right and so if he did it for her then she needs to be directly in the line of conflict of her brothers decisions and so. That's a big part of the movie. That definitely like just falls apart. And honestly i'm not really sold on their relationship. The things that. I like the least about magic mike. One are the brother in the sister just their presence. How they interact with channing. That kind of thing i feel like that's where the storytelling gets the sloppiest. That was a great summation paul. Thank you know. I agree with fat. But but even so i think talking about more so the heart of the movie and actually it shows channing. Tatum being a construction worker. Give me a movie of him. Just doing that would love that. I mean because i mean he sold it. He was great working on the furniture. All that stuff would love to just see a film about that. But anyhow i think one thing about the movie that goes into satire which is really interesting and we. Can you know we can talk about showgirls. A little bit with this where it shows how you know a strip club that has female dancers it typically has a much more sleazy style and customer base or as one with male strippers. It's often it seems to be much more of a like rehearsed performance but and not not only that but there's a seems to be more of a self awareness in the customers of like. This is ridiculous but least you know these guys are hot. I'm gonna go have fun. Whereas like at a strip club with predominantly men. It's not so much that that same year reasoning. And so. I think that's what's really fun. Is they have these ridiculous performances like the tarzan guy. You know all that stuff you know these very rehearsed numbers which you would not really get at most female Dancers strip clubs from what i know. I haven't been to one but from you went up into a strip club. I haven't okay. I have a really yeah. It was an okay time I came in. I came in overdressed. Actually i came in like in a sport coat and like a button down and And i got in there. And and i was there with a friend for a birthday party and she had gone on at all out and like reserved a little vip area and over there. It felt better than kind of to your point in the in the sort of pit with all the all the joe chums you know over there. It got a little dicey in terms of clientele and in terms of atmosphere. But now i think you really hit a good point. It definitely strikes very contrast image. To what happens you know especially even based on my own personal experience of what happens in a strip club where men are the clientele. Paul was there a free buffet at the when you went to there is almost nothing free at a strip club even if the phase free you probably had to pay some sort of fee somewhere along the way i couldn't even get water for free strip club that i was at so i. I only only saying that. Because there's an episode of parks and rec where ron swanson eats like bacon and eggs Upset i was just curious if that was true but now this one if it had a buffet i was not a part of it. It's too bad Anyhow but yeah so. I i think that's one really interesting thing about the movie steven soderbergh adds to it. Yeah it doesn't demand that kind of commentary but he's able to add that in Fairly subtly no for sure and he does a really good job of typing these characters in this world without them feeling Caricature you know. Everyone definitely fills a role in type in the group but no one feels Beholden to all of the all of the tropes of that type right if that makes sense yeah and also when good thing about the movie. Now is matt bomer in this one. Yeah yeah one. Good thing about the movie is they're not all super annoying. You know there. I mean they are macho and kind of you know. Meet heads a little bit. But they're not so much that you're like desperately trying to get away from them. There is some charm there. And but also channing. Tatum as the you know the center and he he's quite good And subdued. But now i think the movies really funny. There's a lot of good humor not only in the satire but just an written lines. I think the soundtrack is very good. I think you know. I love you. Man is in there for a little bit and they're kind of off and on relationship is adds a little bit. She's she doesn't do a whole lot. But i think it's somewhat interesting. It's more interesting until the end. The end is where it gets a little bit. Yeah and i don't mind as much the relationship with the sister i think. The main issue is with alex For who. I don't really care about as you were saying. And i yeah i. I don't think he's as charismatic. And i'm not really given a reason as you. You said to really care about him. I love channing. Tatum and you know i'll watch him all day. But i think the the times it did cut away. I was like all right. Yeah let's get back you know. Yeah channing angers the whole movie. And i almost never thought that i'd be at the at a place of lake. It's it's almost worth the watch for his performance alone. I the olivia munn thing. Works for me until the end and then when it ends it ends up for me kind of also harming the dynamic that he had with the sister because it almost feels like a. Oh this other thing. That i was maybe going to do and maybe get serious with. But it didn't work didn't work so now i'll go with option b. Yeah and so for me that kind of harmed that a little bit. Another big note For me was that if he wanted to if he really cared about the sister and really cared about this kid. I did need channing and maybe this was stephen. Maybe this channing. Maybe it was the script. I needed mike to feel more engaged when The kid overdoses or is like over served as potentially going to ask rate. 'cause he's like oh look. He's fine is breathing. It's okay no harm no foul and it's like a dude could've died in your home. Yeah you should at least be a little bit more concerned. Come on mike. I agree will one random point. I love the scene at the gym. Where matthew mcconaughey. As alex peta for how to dance yeah great stuff and yeah so i think it's yeah it's just a really charming really interesting film but you know i think if you have not seen it or you have hesitation to watch it for whatever reason i would really check it out because there's a lot more there than you would think know for. I was i was very pleasantly surprised. And if i you know not that. I'm some gold metric by which you should measure any kind of experience but i'm one of those people who walked in with a certain amount of skepticism and walked out pleasantly surprised And so. I think that i'm a pretty tough nut to crack on certain things and so i think that if you have any hesitation i was in that camp and i was really happy with what i got. Yeah no i agree well. I'm trying to think there's anything else about the first one now. All the dance numbers are pretty good. It's very obvious who is and is not any way kind of trained right. I will say that. And i mean and so that plays into i think the satire like the tarzan guy who's like not at all attractive has long hair and beard. And he's but he's super burly and there is kind of. He's not very elegant or graceful. But you know you can see someone having fun with that In a self-aware way and and that works but i agree like i think they all. They'll work in their own way but it is noticeable nevertheless the so yeah anything else about the first one. No i think. I have one but it's for both movies actually so i'll wait until we're done with with the second one for this note. Okay but yeah. I do really like the luck of the movie. I i like how steven soderbergh shoots his films. But i think. I think the blue and the yellow really work in this for me. Yeah i could have done with a little bit less yellow during the day. It made everything just a little bit sickly. But i feel like it came a life. It came to life at night and i feel like at night at the club is where the movie looks the prettiest totally all right out of five for the first half very strong three and a half at got to saggy for me in the last thirty minutes to where i was pretty distracted release tractable yeah and that hurt it for me in a enough of way. I'm going to bring it down right. It's a it's a four and a half for me. Why strong i mean because when i first saw it i was like well. This is not at all what expected. And i i really enjoyed it and i read a lot about it at the time. And so yeah. It's i would say. I mean steven. Soderbergh is super prolific. And you know. I'm trying to think of what else he's done he's done. Those iphone shot films lab not watched those. Yeah they're mostly because if you're gonna if you're gonna retire don't be like ha ha loophole Making movies but on my iphone right retire start making tv. Yeah but he did. Yeah heated side effects. Gosh i mean. I know he's done a lot of other stuff. I mean he did the oscars this year so or he produced at least good for him. I guess he did behind the candelabra which was pretty good. I liked that one a lot. Yeah he did out oh. He directed all of the neck which is a great show. You like the neck. Yeah yeah with clive owen. He did logan lucky. Which is probably my favorite of the last decade. Or so and yeah. He did on saying mosaic. The hbo series the laundromat high flying bird. Let them all talk Which i haven't seen that one yet with meryl streep but no. He's one movie. That i think is very underrated that he did a few years before. This is the girlfriend experienced. Did you ever see that paul No but i know that it has Sasha grey in it. Yeah that's a really interesting one anyhow. So yeah cool. I guess we can talk about magic. Mike l. and we do have a clip for this one as well so take a listen mama some surendra come back out. How long cover on you can find us dancing. Come on let me say. I don't know says big dumb rick. How're you doing okay. So you don't have 'em say you don't have to say supposed to redo hang gorgeous. Shut up hey. We got spy for us. Ten twenty as the money spot i you. I'll make some money in that spot. Thank you already. Oh and one thing quickly. I forgot to mention about the first one that i think is pretty impressive. This movie made the first one magic. Mike mate one hundred sixty seven million against a seven million dollar budget. That's a that's a quiet return on investment. Yeah yeah so anyways. Magic mike excel came out in twenty fifteen three years later. It's directed by gregory jacobs and It's written by the same person read. Carolyn it stars channing. Tatum matt. Bomer gabriel glossiest. Adam rodriguez as joe manganiello amber heard Cameo by andrew mcdowell yes yup think it smith. Yep yeah it's pretty stacked and the synoptic elizabeth banks as well. The synopsis is three years after mike bowed out of the stripper life at the top of his game. He and the remaining kings of tampa the road to myrtle beach to put on one last blow out performance so Yeah this one. Steven soderbergh did not return to direct. But it was still a pretty big success not as received as well critically but still a commercial success. So paul what did you. What did you think about magic. Mike l. It does feel twice as long i i'm not as enamored with the second one as the first one by a decent amount. They're still a lot that i do like. There are still things that make me laugh about it. There are still things that i think are clever with it and even though we did. Alex offer It kind of has for me that that classic sequel problem of like. How do we start the character back over again. Kind of you know. it's a little ghostbusters to if you will. No one grew we kind of went back and started over on a certain level. And so for me. I think that makes it a little bit weaker over all. It is not directed by soderbergh as it is directed by producer of several soderbergh films. And i that it is a little bit less visually engaging yes and i think that's where leave for right now. What did you think. Pretty much in agreement. I still enjoy it. I really liked the world. And i liked the character of of magic mike lot and to i mean honestly i would watch a third one if if the center was on magic mike i would watch third film even an incredible. What's up. do you wanna magic mike. Three where the journey or do you want a magic. Mike wight shot clip where it's the prequel to him and his days working with jada I think i'm kind of done with prequels. Keep you know. I would prefer to keep it linear. Maybe a couple of flashbacks. you know. that's fine. But i would prefer to just new story. New set of characters chugging. Yeah you know ditch ditch the guys who he's around and find a new group or just have him being a carpenter of of sorts but anyways so i still enjoy the movie. I i think it's charming. It's fun. I think as you said that there is a pretty immediate loss of command with the direction and i think it just feels like there's not nearly as much going on underneath as was the first especially watching the two fairly close together. Maybe i if. I hadn't seen it for a couple years like it with the releases. I might feel differently but i think that that hurts it. A little bit for me It still looks good. Not as good as soderbergh. of course i do. Really like the sprinkling of these different characters that they encounter like i think ami mcdowell is awesome and that that scene with her group in the house is great. That's my favorite scene of the road trip. Yeah i i think elizabeth banks Jada pinkett smith is very good. I think the scene where they're in the The the house or the club. Whatever and channing. Tatum is dancing. I think all that stuff is really fun and enjoyable. Amber heard is in this very briefly. She's all right and so yeah to sum up. There's not. There's not a lot going on but i still find it entertaining and yeah i would bring on magic mike three. Why not. no. I mean i probably watch a third for me. I think the thing. I think that this one hits some of the traps that the last one avoided. I feel like some of them get a little bit more. Hokey in their type. I think matt bomer especially gets a lot. Hokey or in. I'm a i'm a level. Three reiki healer. And i'm burning sage in the van and all present. I was and i didn't enjoy so you know. I think that they get into that sort of. I don't know this weird dude bro. Frat guy kind of persona. It feels like a bunch of of peter pans who never really grew up on a road trip together. And honestly i think that instead of this being a road trip movie i'd have preferred if it had been a little bit more of like a competition movie where instead of chocking the jada pinkett seen or the the jada pinkett seen sequence with a michael strahan cameo anna donald glover cameo twitch cameo and i think if we had just condensed it down into he shows up. He has a conversation with jada. they have passed. They have conflict she goes. You know what you want me. Fine bring out white chocolate again. And he had to prove that he's still had that and then he got her along. And then we went into the andie macdowell sequence. I think that that would have played a lot better for me. Just because for me that portion again it just got saggy. There were whole sections of this movie. Where i was like. What is this about and the whole movie. The second magic. Mike movie everyone is figuring out that or everyone should be figuring out that piece of their life that they wished that they could incorporate into their life and bring them satisfaction. So matt bomer talks about you know his old singing career his old acting career. Mike has his business and his girlfriend. Recently left him Tito wants to go and start his frozen yogurt business. Joe's character richie. Big dick ritchie is just looking for a nice woman who accepts for who he is and he doesn't really have a lot of other skill sets. Are things going for him. And and tarzan you know is just glad to be around people you know he's lived this interesting life this life and he's just glad to have his friends around him. And so i think the any mcdowell seen works for me because it starts to tap into the themes vetter of regret of loss of wish fullness of imagining what if life zigged instead of zagged and i think that's why that scene works so well We spend so much time on this road trip to get to the end to have the final performance and then movies done and i think that that makes the journey. Feel a little incomplete for me. Yeah i think my my least favorite part about the movie is the plot by the motivation for going to this convention or competition. Whatever like i don't care as much about that. Even though i didn't love alex pepper at least that arc is more interesting than hey. Let's go on a road trip to this show that you don't know anything about you. Don't care if they win or not. You know aside from being happy. Did they win. Who knows. I don't and so that i think is the weakest part about the movie. However i think a little dissimilar to you. I don't i still find the movie kind of light on. Its feet and i like how it's shot. I like how just the movie is put together. And i like the locations a lot And so that. I didn't have as much of an issue with but it's for me it's more so just. The substance of the movie is lacking in comparison to the. I know i get that. Yeah but still good soundtrack as well. I like the scene towards the beginning. Where or i guess. It's really a whole sequence. I like where it shows channing. Tatum doing like the the. The business numbers himself with a furniture company. All that stuff doing you know doing work himself and just living life. I like all that stuff. And then i like where he's in his workshop and he does he starts dancing because the the iconic theme song comes on and All that stuff is just fun. An enjoyable so no for sure And that's those are definitely probably some of the places that that i think. The movie sores the best you know. It lacks urgency Yeah you know the first one even though it had some issues it had this one really lax urgency. And i think that that is on a certain level. Probably because this wasn't steven soderbergh cnn. He wasn't directly overseeing this if he were the director he'd have been involved in the pre production process. Some of these things could have been ironed out and our our director was really even though he is a longtime producer. He is a still a rookie director. He only has two movies under his belt before this. They were years before it and also just going from saad to someone who's only done two other movies. That's a huge difference. Missed in terms of of pure. Doing the work you know. How good would it be if we had a steven soderbergh magic mike trilogy where he had directed three films. You know honestly. I think the only thing that would be better as is if magic mike. Three somehow ended up. Being a crossover with showgirls. Hopefully either at work on that right now Yeah no i agree that the direction is lesser for sure. And yes so you know to me. It's still it's kind of cool to be in that world and not be not feeling too like exploitative or to needlessly graphic or anything like that. It's just kind of indulging in the world a little bit but not. But they're still a little bit of thoughtfulness there and is there and so that i i really like and appreciate a about the movie you know i do have to and this is my note for the first one and and for the second one you know i am. I'm very pro Nudity in film and tv. I just think that it needs to be equal opportunity. And so you know honestly i just need more movies with dick shots in them you know and i feel like this is a great opportunity both of these great opportunities that were just kind of you know missed out you know show girls put that stuff out there you know frame by frame and to the point that it became casual right on a certain level. It's almost like working backstage in theater. Like you almost get desensitized to it. It becomes almost like yet blinders on And so not saying that. You know every movie needs to just have nudity left right and center but you know reach for it a little bit you know we. We've never had a movie about male. Strippers that ever that nc. Seventeen pinnacle right not. I agree One thing i forgot to mention about the i i love it when alex pedophile goes into the the dressing room and the guy is using the like air gun thing to blow up the idea. Yeah it's great stuff That is one of my favorite bits. Is the out of focus right in the foreground just ever slowly growing further into the frame a little. Subtlety there no. I thought that that was a great bit. That is one of the. That's one of the funniest bits for me from the first one. Yeah but this one you know. Yeah i guess there's not a whole lot to say about it because there's not a whole lot going on but you know. I think that the road trip structure. I like to a certain degree. I just don't care about where they're going. Which is fine. It's not a huge deal breaker for me but well in the end. The thing about a road trip movie okay. A road trip movie has to not be about the destination. Sure it must be about the journey. And i don't think that this movie figured out whether or not it was about the destination or the journey and i think that they try to turn the destination into this culmination of them discovering themselves on a certain level in their final performance. But i think they could have done that in a competition movie right so therefore i'm not sure that the road trip really works for the format you know. It's it's not about the journey in any kind of way. Yeah yeah that's a good point Excuse me so yeah. That's where that's where it kind of hurts a little bit one thing Talking about performance. I do like matt bomer. In general i think his character is overwritten in this but but he he sells it. Yeah i mean. I loved him in. I never watched white collar. But i i i liked him a lot in the nice guys in the normal heart and he pops up here and there that he's i think he can be really really good and he is good in this and you know it's not a perfect execution all around. No yeah and i would like to think like it more than i currently do an and there's always room to you know i guess win me back a third one but right now the second one is definitely the weaker of the two for me. Oh yeah for sure. It did approve tarzan for me. I enjoy getting the little bits of his life. I really enjoyed that kind of the same am slowly opening up talking about desert storm talking about the life that he missed out on. I really enjoyed that stuff a lot. Yeah owen i guess one thing one presence that is lacking from the movie is matthew mcconaughey. Yeah and you do feel it. You know to set them off pretty quick. Pretty you know just which you know. Whatever is that's fine but he he he is missing. Yeah noticeably so for sure yeah anything else about magic mike. Xl or magic. mike. In general. No i think. I think that i'm pretty good. Yeah they're worth watch. I think both are. I mean if you like the first one and give the second one a luck one. Yeah i. I did think that this was a great performance from jada. Y- you know. She got to have a lot of fun. And yeah hell that she's having a lot of fun Yeah okay cool. I guess one thing now. I won't say that. I know so anyway. Anyways out of five stars paul. I'm going to stand by two and a half. it's a three and a half for me. Okay so we didn't both come down a full point but you just started higher so cool. Well yeah well. That's all done and over with so. I guess we can touch on some news. You wanna talk trailers. Paul shore all right so i guess the first one we can talk about as venom. Let there be carnage. Which is the venom sequel to the tom hardy film from a couple years ago which we did review on the show at some point. And this one is just a you know pretty direct sequel and brings woody harrelson as courage. It dropped ruben. Fleischer is director. Who's directing it andy. Circus i don't know if i like that. But i don't know if i like. Yeah i one either. But i didn't. I refused to watch the first one really. Yeah i was really pissed off by the first trailer. And i didn't. I wasn't sold by anything that i saw. And then we got to the end where it was like. You're going to roll like a third in the wind. And that was the moment where i was like. I'm not fucking going. I won't fucking see it. Classic paul and then. I heard people respond to it now. It's like i'm glad i didn't. And then i saw you know woody harrelson and his ronald mcdonald wigan in the post credits scene and even though i'm not a big carnage fan from the comics. I also didn't really enjoy the woody casting because it just felt like i'm going to get. What are you doing. His leftovers from a natural born killers warmed-over zombie land. Yeah you know so. I don't know it didn't really sell for me. Nothing about anything. That i heard about the first bend made me go. You know what. I should give it a shot. Yeah so is that now still how you feel about the second one. Yeah my favorite part of the trailer. I can honestly say this. I enjoyed then making breakfast. Yeah it reminded me on a certain level of like films that i grew up in within like the early or late nineties. Flubber or cast spur. You know this crazy. Cg character who doesn't really quite know how to be normal doing this ludicrous action or another simple action. But in a ludicrous way I love the cat foot. What you know i. I really enjoyed that bit. So like that whole segment. I really enjoyed and then the moment we got past that i was like this is just another shitty venom movie. All we have to review flubber. You know what deal review flubber tomorrow. Yeah do you feel about the trailer. So i like to. I'm a huge tom. Hardy fan. I i watch everything he does. I liked the first one to a certain extent. I kind of liked it. It's humor and i. I think there were issues with it for sure. I remember sky telly. He was on that episode. And we we talked about it a little bit. And i think maybe jacob hours maybe but anyways i i liked it i love it by any means but i like the venom character and tom hardy. Really anchors it for me if it was a different actor i would probably not be all that interested and i think the movie looks interesting. It's going to be only in theaters. That whole thing. It's kind of noxious. But i don't know i don't know anything about the venom world really. I don't know anything about carnage. I i like woody harrelson a watch it but i don't know if there's anything aside for maybe the breakfast scene or just tom hardy's normal demeanor that i found all that interesting but no. Yeah the one thing. I will say that. I don't like an. It's the same in the first is. I don't like the look of venom. When he's coming out of tom hardy very digital to me. Yeah and venom has always been sort of a weird character to try to adapt not to be rude to any venom fans out there but venom comes from this weird era of lake fucking grunge core. Let's make him edgy. Comic characters and that's where you get like venom. That's where you get logo. There are a few others that are that are good examples. You know and for me it. They never really landed as hard as i wanted them to. I always still preferred green goblin. Iowa's still preferred otto octavius. And i even have somewhere around here. Like i know the whole symbiosis story. I've got secret wars and spiderman. Three hundred and my house right now. So that means something to someone if if it's not used their listener venue just ain't in the now so i i enjoy spiderman. I love these characters. I also just found the venom move movie and the more bs movie. Just another instance of sony making poor decisions with a great property And more to the point venom is supposed to be anti peter. He's supposed to have all of the success that peter wants but be shit And so you know. I'm not sure that anything about this. You know once you kind of strip venom from spiderman. It's kind of like stripping joker from batman. Where's the meat. They need each other because they are perfect foils. It's that classic narrative kind of thing and so this is them trying to be like we can still do it without marvel. Then no the fuck. You can't especially if you don't have spiderman was the glue for the entire notion of a spider verse. Yeah i agree but paul. How excited are you for moebius. He's not coming back form. I know i know. But i think i agree with all of that I'm still somewhat interested. I think the thing that worked for me from the first one that i'm hoping there's a lot in. This is just the the kind of voice over a venom talking to tom. hardy. I liked all. That stuff is kind of silly as it was. I enjoyed it. Kind of relatable. In a sense i guess but now it looks okay i i know some people are freaking out about it but i i am not one of those. Yeah that's because the same people that are freaking out about this movie. Also probably like rise of skywalker. It's the same group. Yeah for sure. Okay but yeah that one comes out in a couple of months. So we'll keep you updated on that one and then the other big trailer is the forever perch which this is the fifth and final supposedly purge film guy and yeah. We haven't reviewed any of the purge movies on the show formerly but i've talked about him and we talked about paul you you have not seen any of them to to this point yet right. No my only experience with the purge actually comes from going to halloween horror nights at universal hollywood Where one that particular year that. I went the theme of the main park was a purge election year. And i my my girlfriend at the time and i were trying to figure out directions on the map and i was being a wise ass and i looked at the person who was walking around in the stilts as the statue of liberty and i was like. Hey could you tell me where this is. And they stopped looked at a leaned all the way down and they're still snatched the map up look data it spun it around a little bit old at shut and then just rip rip rip rip and the right in my hand. The little ripped up bits of map and so. That's my only experience of the purge. And i laughed hysterically after that guy that i was like. I wish i could tip you. Classic perjure right there. That's a man who's ready for the purge. Yeah but this one. The i guess the concept for you know the the franchise as a whole. It's for twenty four hours. Or i guess it's twelve hours. Whatever it is. It's twelve hours. That's like a dusk till dawn. Yeah so for for one night a year all crimes legal including murder and this one takes on the idea of what if people kind of continued after the purge was over and just started causing mayhem which is essentially normal life. It's you know it's just people going out and committing murder which you know not say that should happen. But you know that happens and it's essentially becomes a almost like a mad. Max ask kind of like a cult movement where like a few group of people start and it just takes hold yeah and it becomes like like a texas like western standoff kind of movie and the whole gag gaga's they're now trying to race into mexico very deep commentary there and now as i've said on the show before i don't think any of the movies are amazing but i do like the concept and i typically. I haven't watched all of the show. The show is pretty bad. But i do like the purge anarchy. And i liked the first purge which is the fourth film The actual i purge film. And i think there's really a. It's one of those franchises where the discussion is typically more interesting than actually watching them. And so you know. I i tend to. My curiosity is piqued. Mo- most of the time. When i hear about these are i watch them but i thought this one looked i think was my my. I think the least interesting of any of them. It looks the most obvious. And that's even with purge electioneer being a thing. This one looked the most obvious the most on the nose. The most schlocky the most exploitation live on a certain level And so honestly even though. I've never really wanted to watch a purge movie. This was the first time that i have actively watched trailer for a purge. Move in been like. I really hate the idea of having to watch this movie. Sure and i know that there's a real possibility. I'm going to have to show coming up and i was like god blessed. This is the one that i really truly don't want to watch. Interestingly going off your whole discussion on the purge and like its concept being more interesting dan harmon who wrote community and rick. And morty obviously he did the purge episode in rick. And morty but also on top of that if you go into his instagram he'll sometimes watch movies in like batch you know and talk about them and his whole breakdown on the urge and what he would do in a purge movie and stuff like that. I thought was fantastic. And his his concept for purge movie was following one family through lake five years of urges. And i was like hell. Yeah that's like a really interesting way to to take a concept that so often allows itself to just become schlock and kind of dig into it a little bit more. Yeah like i. i mean. I've listened to reviews of it. Read some things about it and like you know thinking hearing about either concepts for films or how people would go about trying to survive the purge. Very interesting and so. I think that's why. I tend to my. My curiosity is kind of peaked. When i hear that just because i think it's interesting to talk about in that way but No this one i thanked. It looked pretty schlocky. Not a whole lot of commentary going on there because it's not really dealing with the actual purge perjures after the fact and that's not there so they're essentially just bad people. There's not really a context. They're there doesn't people in masks causing chaos and in this case there's nothing to back them up. It's not mad. Max or anything like that where it's so ridiculous and then also mean and if we ever do talk about them we can go into it more there but like the biggest issue with these movies and i think this one in particular as it indulges in the violence. And the you know anarchy fantasy that it's trying to comment on And breakdown and so. It's like here murder. Is you know you know. Look what could happen if things get really bad but then also look how cool these masks are and how cool these guys look. On their motorcycles rule. The design is look at how hilariously i designed this person's death exactly and so it's like and you know it is done by blood house which makes sense. And so yeah i think if you gave the concept to someone out i mean david fincher or whoever's like a an a level person and they said write the script directed all that stuff. I think you could get something really potent out of it but love jordan. Peele her reality. That's that's that would be my pick actually. Yeah for sure but instead it's the same for my knowledge. It's the same guy who writes and directs at pretty much every time. And so you're not getting a real wide perspective. Well rounded perspective. It's just hey. Let's do another purge movie. I have an idea. Yeah because you know how much more can he as one person with this concept with these perspectives. Really have to say. How much more is there left for him to say. Yeah so yeah i. I was kind of looking forward to seeing the trailer and it could be something great especially since it is the last one but i was pretty disappointed by it so you know there you go. Wealth trailers were a bit of a let for me. Same all right paul. Any other news you can think of. No you read my pages thank you. Oh yeah i'll i told viewers last week. I think that i would. I would mention a little bit more about it. Yeah so. I'm working on a feature script. I'm trying to get it done by the end of the month. I have twenty five pages. Handwritten which is like thirteen pages typed not including the most recent seen. And i'm doing a whole sort of take down send up Kind of thing on superhero films and that kind of thing and it's called the dead men and it has this sort of hell boy figure as one of the main antagonists it has this sort of mutated turtle character from world war two as as our main protagonist. And it's really shaping up nicely. And once i have more el al definitely share more. Yeah for sure. Yeah i. I really enjoy reading Both treatment and the the script. And i got like watchmen. I got hell boy x. Men and not in a bad way at all. Just kind of little bits and pieces of things that i think are dead pool. You know and so it's a cool. I'm excited to see where where it goes. And i can't wait to read the whole the whole thing i'm you yeah but i was gonna say i mean if you wanted to do some of the week we could. Yeah i'm game for the week. Yeah do you want to take it off. Sure so this week. I pretty much just have a few re watches. I re watched no country for old men. Yeah which we reviewed. I think one of the very first episodes of the show and i think the movie is a true masterpiece. I think it is amazing. I've watched it many times. Senate really only gets better. That's a perfect movie for me. Yeah yeah. I don't think i have any. That's a rare thing to say. I don't think i have any issues with it. Then i also watched hot fuzz another classic. Yes i i love as well and i think you know a few small little issues with that movie. But it's so funny. It's so clever. I love the concept and it's very well executed And then i also watched aliens the james cameron alien sequel which i love as well. I love both alien and aliens. And i like alien three and i mean permit theus i love and i like alien covenant. I don't love it but you know that could be a good talk for for some time and that's about it. I finished up seinfeld. And yeah i think yeah just kind of watching some film. I know i'm gonna love you know so Yeah that's that's about it for me now. Sometimes it's good to go ahead and reach into something that you know is an ace in the hole because i think that film criticism or even just engaging in film on a regular basis can sometimes have the effect of almost being disheartening especially because movies are turds right now. Yeah like it's real hit or miss out there and so you know. I think it's good to sometimes go and be and remind yourself you know it's almost like self care with your hobby like go and remind yourself why you love it. Go and remind yourself what works why it works for me. Actually speaking of movies that that hit last night my my wife and i had date night and we decided it was a ten year anniversary for a movie that we saw kind of on almost our first date ish. If you will Ten years ago we watched tinker tailor soldier spike man. That is a classic. Yeah great movie Highly recommend two hours and some change that just clips by the movie does not play you for a sucker. You have to pay attention but the payoff is worth it. It's a great great movie. And it's based off of book series. There are six george smiley books written by john macara and i highly recommend all of them. He did the smiley trilogy than he read. Constant some things into the karla trilogy. They're both great. And then just going to say. It's directed by thomas alfredson. Who did let the right one in. Yeah amazing he also did the snowman which you know you know there are inter interesting things about that one. But it wasn't all his fault and then beyond that we did fast five recently. We did fast and furious. The fourth one fourth the fifth i enjoy the fifth and the second i think the most because they're leaning into the lunacy the most I think you want. I think fast five is my favorite and then we watched ant man which is very enjoyable. We watched age voltron which i had a whole series of of sort of thoughts clicking on this most recent watch and that's pretty much all that we've been been doing lately now. I mean we could talk about it in depth at some point. How do you feel about age of altron underrated really. Yeah and i'll i'll rock your world. We can have a whole discussion. And i'll rock your world on that movie okay. I'll say when i saw i i really enjoyed and on rewatch about. I don't know year year. And a half ago i really. It was tough. Let me throw something at you. The mind he's known as the obelisk from two thousand one space odyssey It's chaotic trains. Sure i'll let that marinate in k. Yeah but yeah that would be a cooling to talk about at some point if if we could Cool yeah i. I don't think there's anything else for me. Really now senator good too. Yeah all right. I guess that about does it for the show sadly this week now next week there have been a lot of new streaming releases. I think there have been a lot new on netflix. there's also the underground railroad. The newberry jenkins series. So i think. There's a lot to choose from paul anything in particular. You're striking your fancy. Now i'll go and get a few things. look at. i'll i'll let you know. Probably tomorrow if i have anything you know i mean i. I think i'm gonna watch the woman in the window. Which is the new. Amy adams joe wright film but i you know i haven't heard the best about that and so yeah. Yeah nothing nothing in particular. Although i guess is army of the dead coming out soon not a clue yeah. I think that one's coming out fairly soon. And i think crew ella as well is coming out fairly soon which has been getting some some good buzz. So you know we'll figure it out Plenty of choices. So we'll keep you updated and you can follow us on facebook twitter and instagram at at film buds. The film buds dot com the film. It's podcast gmail.com. Is the address that you can reach us at. And all of that is in the show notes so check that out. Send us any questions comments. Whatever and yeah well. I mean as always. Thanks for taking the time. Thanks for sending near your work. I always enjoy reading it so yeah thank you. Thank you for reading it. I really appreciate it. Yeah of course so all right everybody well. We help enjoyed it as much as we did. And we'll see next time owner.

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Slate Money: Movies: Magic Mike

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Slate Money: Movies: Magic Mike

"Hello welcome to the magic. Mike episode of sleet money goes to the movies season two. I'm feel like salmon of axios. I'm here with emily peck. Hello and we are here with. I'm very excited about this. One the one and only shane pharaoh. Jane hello thanks for having me chain vero for some people listening to this focused. You do need an introduction. So who are you. Well i used to work with both of you. Various publications prior. I wasn't economics journalist at reuters felix and and huffington post with emily that i went to law school and now i'm a public defender in new york city. And you have a great newsletter. Yes i have an newsletter shane Dot com called cruel unusual talks about the mundane but horrific things that happened in the criminal. Legal system. I always learn something when it appears in my inbox. Shane is going to tell the story of when jane and i went to the movies one drunken evening and watch magic. Mike execs which is not the movie. We're gonna be talking about today. What is the movie we are talking about today. They were talking about the first magic mike. Twenty twelve classic about the precarity of being a freelancer in a post. Great recession gig. Economy steven soderbergh's magic mike taken apart in graded by me. Any fact inching very coming up on slate. Money goes to the movies. This episode is brought to you by hp plus in a world full of smart devices. Isn't it about time. Your printer got smart to now. Printing is smart with hp fuss and the hp app is how it happens. You can print from your phone with just a tab no matter where you are even from your garage slash home office slash yoga studio. That is smart. Hp plus learn more about smart printing at hp dot com slash. Smart magic make as i told. My daughter is a movie about a dancer named mike who just wants to make. Furniture is supported his ambitions. Now it's a movie about the gig economy okay in a post recession. Great recession worlds and carry of a freelance work. Say more about this change because shane is the one who picked the film. Okay so number one. Yes we have to say shane. You pick this movie lead stars at the beginning before we start talking about disquisitions about the tensions between labor and capital. You pick this movie you when where were you in. When was it the you. I saw the phenomenon that is magic. Meg i actually. I cannot remember the first time. I saw magic mike. The first movie the one that we're talking about. But i do remember that when the second one came out magic mike l. Which is a more fun movie. Although not so much about the economy felix and i had some wine and decided that we were going to go to the movies we had dinner and then we decided there was a midnight showing the local movie. Yeah but the one of the reasons he wanted to see it was that you liked the first one. You had already seen the best one at that point yes to i think when we saw nitric my xl. I had already seen the first one and already seen magic mike. Xl once before the and this is because you are a fan steven soderbergh right. Yes and i am a fan of movies about male strippers. It's a noble genre. Are there any other movies about male strippers as one about the coal miners. We should remember that one that came out in like the ninety s. Maybe late eighties was not born yet. So being this one about the coal miners. If i remember correctly and i can probably look this up was basically an economic empowerment movie. It was this very down on. Its luck northern coal mining town and everyone was unemployed and miserable and then all of the former coal miners lost their jobs got together and created a group of male strippers and it was fun and it was a triumphant ending when it was the opposite of this movie. The full monty they ago. Plus i think this movie is one in a line of movies about strippers and economics because flashdance from the eighties was essentially like the same kind of narrative. She's a stripper but she wants to be taken seriously. But there's class issues and then after magic mike. There's hustler's based on a jessica new york magazine a new classic which maybe we wanna do in the season where the strippers basically rob. The bankers bankers drug them and rob them and steal their credit cards. And it's also sort of economic tale also about the great recession right jane Yeah that was the new york new york city great recession stripper tail. And this is the more. The florida recession stripper. You know yes. Two sides of the same coin. Sort of jaylo and channing. Tatum are kind of the n- actually no. I don't think that's right but similar chain police this movie for us in in its proper. Gio time paroled context. This is after the florida. Housing boom his best. And yet there's still some work for rufus. But i get enough so he works as a roofer but that's not his only job as far as i can tell he. Has i think at least four different as a freelance jobs. Things he's got going so he has some work as a roofer but it's not enough to fully pay the bills. He also has an auto detailing business at night he works as a stripper and this is all to try to save money to start a furniture business because he his passion is to design and make furniture but he can't do that because he can't get alone because he doesn't have a credit score or he has terrible credit score. You doesn't really. it's never really clear. Why is it so bad. What it's like in the four hundred. There's a scene where he goes to a bank for a low very low. We don't know exactly. Don't know why why his credit scores so love. Please do and for this. I'm going to flash back to the first season of slate. Money goes to the movies when we watched indecent proposal and one of the first things that woody harrelson the architects when he comes into his million dollars is he. Is this very famous. Frank gehry cod board chad and one of the first things that we see in magic mike when he starts talking about his business is that he has a modest florida upstairs. Apartment living situation but in the medium modest but yeah but anyway he has this apartment sun-drenched department and in the middle of the apartment. That is a pair of vintage brown me. Sandra bacelona chaz which even in the depths of the great recession florida. You have to pay a lot of money to get those chest. I might. theory reasoning. Bad credit score is because he's been splurging on vintage furniture and beachfront apartment bet. I'm sure cost him most of his the money he makes and he all of these things that he does he gets paid in cash there so much cash in this movie and you just can't exist in twenty ten worlds only on cash because then you're not building credit and your credit score is going to be terrible. That's explaining shane. Do you think that. Mike the titular mike of the movie is what the financial services industry would call on banked. I bet he has a bank account by it. Doesn't have very much money on it in it. I mean i. I would say he has a debit card for maybe his auto detailing business like he needs a bank account for that. But certainly the construction roofing job. He's getting paid in cash under the table and the stripping job. he's getting paid in cash. Probably under the table odium if you will is where he is paid in cash and he but he gets a cut of the door to remember. Yeah baby boomer. Miami looking got a couple of loopholes. Gotta get through with the Real estate attorneys down there. But after that it's gonna be all green lights what you need from me. He's gotta keep doing heads at the focus like a big brother. This team you keep that up. You're going to make a lot more than this door. Money again both ways this time equity kid. You say it. So we need to talk about the difference between the of the door and equity. Maybe the mezzanine equity wait. Before i just want to add the banking question. Let's remember that. Magic mike channing. Tatum has a safe in his home. Where keeps his life savings. Thirteen thousand dollars in in the little safe. Not readings account is is a safe with eighteen thousand dollars in lake singles and fives which was like. Okay so maybe he is z. Right you're like. Why are they mentioning a specific number and then later it's like okay. Yes to pay ten thousand dollars to help out the kid the worst actor in the movie and loses his life savings and the the door to the safe is open all empty and stuff. Now we can talk about equity. I just wanted to point so okay so this is a movie about chain. You're saying this is a movie about economic precarity. What is the message of the movie. What is it telling us about economic precarity again. What it tells us. No one in the movie seems to have any sort of safety net except for mike who has his thirteen thousand dollars in a safe but one mistake by this kid that he has to use most of it to stop these people from destroying his house and then his entire savings is gone and he's just got up the next day and go again from gig to gig trying to make ends meet. He doesn't really get a paycheck per se but everyone seems to be living basically from paycheck to paycheck with the potentially the exception of the medical assistant sister of the kid. Although i would say she also doesn't seem like she. She seems to have her ship together but she doesn't. She's got the knockoff furniture. So she probably also living paycheck to paycheck. Is the speech of course comes from dallas from matthew mcconaughey when he basically tells mike that there's no way he can quit. There's no way he can leave because he needs this job and dallas who represents capital in this movie compared to mike you represents labor. The capital here holds all the cards. That's bats the speech. Now whether it's true or not is interesting but it's also interesting that dallas is a worker. He is out there on stage gyrating and flashing his muscles as much as any of the rest of them right. That is not a purely extractive. Form of capitalism dallas is performing here. I mean i think that dallas in many ways represents capital looks like a lot of the time in the united states like it doesn't look like the very top where people are just like not working in collecting rents. He wants to see him south that way but he actually still has to hustle and he doesn't actually have much capital at all. It all could fall through tomorrow. He's been waiting forever to be able to get the second strip club in miami and this is like some great triumph. Here's able to like just scraped together enough by the way stealing from his workers because he keeps telling people all through the movie. Like you'll get one hundred dollars at the end of the night and then at the end of the night comes. Here's the seventy five dollars. I promised you or whatever it is. He says and he finally scraped together enough for one more branch of the strip club. It's not even one. I think he isn't it closing downtown. Moving to miami staying with one brunch and must act at this point with some matthew mcconaughey dallas research. Okay so apparently he in the script wasn't supposed to dance at all but matthew mcconaughey insisted on doing a dance in the film which was that amazing. Good anding scene where he just gives it his all like sweating and people are going crazy. Second fact about that scene. Is that the extras went. So crazy with matthew mcconaughey as stripping that they ripped his g-string off for real going. And so that seymour. He's like covering his crotch because his g. string has been ripped off. That is something that wasn't supposed to happen but they just went with it and there you have it off back in march that scene again yes sleep. Money is sponsored this week by. At and t. active on which. If you're on your phone all the time which we all all our phone all the time you'll know that you need to do basically your entire life on an is. Your calendar is your to do list. 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But he just goes to the kid and he's all right. Mike is out urine. Let's go and it's like no one matters to this man right because he just has to make his money and do his thing and exploited all these people including himself kind of. Yeah well it seems like he has been exploited for so long that he sees that as the only way to project power yes and so he is like hanging onto this shred of power that he might have by exploiting everybody else is shred of power like shred of g. string there's also a fascinating subplot about the dangling the equity in front of the workers. So there's this whole sort of supplement for most of the movie. Where basically the idea is that. When they moved to miami. Mike is going to be a partner in the business with ten percent of equity. Then already at that point dialysis right to haggle him down to seven point five percent. But this place is mike squarely in the number two position in the small little business. That is the male review. No one else is in line faculty but he's in line to be like an owner of and just a worker and then a couple months later he's driving back with the kid and the kid just happens to drop in his drunken honesty. The hey yeah. Dallas is his him the kid. Seven point five percent equity and this is a betrayal of my. It's not. Mike is mike response to this is not. Hey great we all get equity. that's awesome. This is a socialist paradise his response to this like how on earth i've been working for all of all of these years and working very hard to finally get that ten percent of his promised and now you're just promising seven percent to this cup of a kid what's up with that. It's like success. Isn't just like the workers get equity in the capitalistic business. Also doing better than your fellow workers. Yeah and i think that's a way for a lot of capital two pit labor against each other in a way that keeps them from organizing. Say and that. It's just a bargaining chip to keep people at each other's throats. Keep them competing with each other so that they're not actually competing with capital. The other thing. I would say about the film is it's like class war elements to it because everyone in mike's orbit like all the strippers of delightful. Let's just say right away. delight delightful. We love them. They're all great and the kids sister. Hardworking lady nurse technician whatever she is but then all the people that are like educated in this film with college. Degrees are absolute douches. Like the sister has this boyfriend. Who's just really snobby. And like he does better insurance. Workman's she does yeah. Judge handles more higher profile insurance or something. And then there's the joanna character that like that magic. Mike wants to like be his girlfriend. And she's just can you please stop talking and be pretty like just totally demean bomber. Though right yeah. He's really good but clearly looks down on him because he's a stripper. And then of course the scene where they go to the sorority party. Which why are there a bunch of boys there. I don't understand why they're there but anyway again. It's like a class thing like here. Are these college kids. And they looked down upon the trashy strippers which to be fair he did give the girlfriend that ecstasy or whatever. But that doesn't you don't shouldn't have a bottle broken on your head over that. Obviously but again wire the boys at that party. I don't understand that part if you explain that to me. Shane being a veteran of many sororities canoe. I've been to maybe one sorority party ever in my life. I've been fraternity parties but there are always girls at fraternity parties. Like i. yeah. I i can't explain it to you will if there's a fraternity party where a stripper comes. Probably there's not going to be girls. there are also and then also like why are the boys just huddled in the room looking all angry like i just. I didn't really understand. It doesn't really make a lot of sense. They just needed a plot device to like get them in a fight and make him lose his ten thousand dollars worth of ecstasy bathwater. Bet i thought i want to. Just this is not a club driven right. No no one is watching this even if you really do take it seriously. As a disquisition on modern capitalism the disquisition on gavel listeners in the situation in the way that the whole setup is framed more than is in any kind of character arc. Also i did read one interviews even so did by what he talked about how it's about having to basically work. How would you do when you feel that the labial or performing being undervalue. How do you react. What kind of decision do you make how you express that when you feel like you'll being on the values what you do. How was that part of the movie. When does he because he's angry. He's not getting equity that's how he's undervalued in that instance. Yeah i think dallas really undervalues him like he does a lot of the work for the strip club in terms of just going out and getting people to come and bring money in the door and thinking about it as a business while dallas's up there like onstage playing with his like flame thrower whatever not mention discovering the kid was like creating obviously a fuck up from day one and is the guy who turns out to a roofing job wearing sneakers and instead of saying you obviously fuck up what he does being magic mike is. He can look pasta sneakers to the fact that this kid is actually really good looking. That's all you need to hear successful. Scripted i listen to slate spoilers. Special podcast did an episode on magic. Mike so went back and listen to it and i think dana stevens was pointing out like the first time the kid gets on stage. It's just ridiculous. His whole act as he takes his pants off in kisa someone and then it gets off the stage. Matthew mcconaughey dallas. The character dallas is like you got it kid. You're so talented. You're so good at this year a star and it's like wait what how was all these facts to the girls like wash their shit when he kissed them which could have gone very poorly but because they reacted well he was a star but channing. Tatum clearly is a good dancer. Like he s star. Let's assuming tatum is an amazing has incredible. He's doing his backflips. He's he didn't have the he did all of the back legs but he is an amazing benefit. Well my half ass. Internet research turned up that he did it all himself. Well yeah part out of biographical about yes. He was once a stripper in tampa. And i don't know one of the things that i really like about this movie. Is it shows how much work labor goes into their act. A really portrays like sex work as worked in really put thought and effort into it and they practice and it's like physically demanding. Although i have to say that it was magic. Mike excel more than magic. Mike itself released showed the amount of work. They put into just pumping i n and watching that diet. Which is the main qualifications you need to be as so you need highly visible muscles and therefore you need to be very lean and very muscle. I continue to maintain that the first magic. Mike is about the economy and the second magic. Mike is about stripping although in the first one there's a scene i don't remember which dancer it was. But he lifts up like a heavier they're always lifting up the women. That's like a very core. Gimme back picking up. A woman is an inland mail. Strip clubs have as someone who has not been too many of these places. I don't know. I've never been to one either shane. This resear- yelling on our part. We should have gone for research. Maybe it's a slate plus episode or something but anyway he picks up the heavier woman on. Uc he hurts his back. And i was like ooh occupational hazard right there. I bet you can't get workers comp for that or anything must be really hard on your body. Moesha's on it. Maybe in the biden white house. Well there is the whole speech. The dallas gives at the very beginning of the movie. Basically saying you're not allowed to do. This is not allowed to do that. But i don't see any police in here and you ll leg a bunch of lawbreakers to me. And that's it right. I mean as saying everything will. It's all cash under the table like every single job that mike has is. I'm almost certain not being reported to the arrays right. Yes yes i really. I love the opening scene. There as someone who is very passionate about there being a difference between the law and enforcement of the law. I think it's it's a great opening scene. What was the opening scene. I don't remember was it. Were you touch. Goes through his body and he's like carry touch this can you. And then he grabs his crotch and he says you can't touch this. But i see a bunch of lawbreakers here funding last ladies. Can you tell us that to the law says that you cannot see. That's the law breakers inside. Yes there's a lot of touching. I thought you were talking for some reason about the union. The roofing scene where the guys like. I'm not bringing in a union worker for this. Like i'll pay you ten dollars an hour and there's haggling there and it's just so sad that's sad without look funny bits and without icon. Hey grabbing his crotch matthew mcconaughey. I think he's just the star of this thing. I mean i know channing. Tatum is technically the star and he. He's wonderful and delightful but mcconnell. Hey just being so is wonderful. Yes in the spoiler podcasts. They wanted him to win an oscar for this. But i don't. I just couldn't watch a triumphant finals. Tripping scene of matthew mcconaughey as without thinking is this the next governor of texas. He can't be any more ridiculous in the current governor of texas and he would play the bongos. Do they got the bongos in there. He said all right all right all right like a million times just to make sure you knew who he was right. I mean it was incredible is good piece casting then. He suddenly steals every scene. He's in in contradistinction as you say to most of the rest of the cast including like elvis presley's granddaughter pig. Yeah every time. I watched the movie. I'm just like i forgot. There's a small pig in this movie. Just randomly with a bottle that was disturbing. She was feeding the pig with a bottle right. Yeah ho character. The existence of that character to who she is what she One line the entire movie slate. Money is said this week by titan. Which is a company giving you. Access to premium investment strategies and white glove service. That really up until now. 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We imagine what a club can be redeem your free trial at literati dot com slash slate threats literati dot com slash sleep to learn more and read more with literati literati dot com slash. I do want to ask you. Shane is this a feminist movie in any way to and definitely prepared to say the second one is a feminist movie. I mean i think that like it has certain elements of the male strippers the whole holster. All the strip club scenes are sort of about thinking towards female pleasure. Unlike making the women happy by. I don't know that it's necessarily feminist. I mean i think it has some like feminist critique in it like the scene that we talked about with a medical assistant sister who one is like. She's she's got her shit together and can't understand. Why all these guys don't but she has this terrible boyfriend who like puts her down for the kind of work she does and just the way. That scene is framed wakes. But i i don't know that it's an explicitly. Feminist movie wouldn't pass the bechtel test. Not that that makes it automatically feminists. That's when you know give what is it at least two women talking about something other than a man like this film fails that particular thing i was thinking about the test and i was thinking it totally fails the test with the possible exception of late right to the beginning when those two girls are at the bar trying to get a drink and like wants to the other. Can you get me a drink. And i think that was the one as just men points out the women who to speak to each other have to be named so. That's definitely not the case so it definitely males tobacco test the only two women who speak to each other in the film. I r- olivia mine. And the sister when olivia munn is trying to get the sister at asleep with her and mike the only time the two women characters talk to each other at all. She's like she's trying to get the sister to talk about her tattoos to my mind. The only way you could say it's feminist. Is that well. It doesn't women are not exploited women's bodies in this movie. It's really all about men's bodies being exploited in this movie and it's they're exploited delightful way. I thought but maybe that's what men say about most other movies where women's bodies are exploited. So i don't know that doesn't seem actually feminists none them saying all these words out loud and had another point but i lost it because i got distracted thinking about the bodies. It's yeah the one thing i will say about this movie and i think this was very conscious on the Of soda bag is that he wanted to make a very physical mood movie right. The way the dancing scenes in particular but basically all seems to set up their movements of people in the frame very carefully frame very carefully set up and he i remember reading an interview with. You really ought to be able to work out. What's going on if you're watching this with the sound off. It's not a dialect in movie in any ways shape hopeful. In fact one of the most charming pops. The movie is the way in which mike is so difficult to express himself family while heels finds it so easy to express himself physically and soda is basically saying movies. Don't need to be about what can tell. the story. just threw bodies in movement. And i think he does that pot of the interesting cinematic invasion. That is is definitely you. We're going back to the classic. Hollywood musicals nineteen fifties yet did sort of feel like a musical. The most enjoyable scenes were probably the dancing notches because everyone looked really good which they did. But those were the the funds scenes in the dialogue. The acting in the plot was dumb right. I mean i know. It was a critique of capitalism in all shane. But really i mean. Yeah i think it is i i do think that like it is definitely the glossiest version of this kind of critique of capitalism and its losses showgirls. It's yeah but it's there's economic precarity without anyone actually being poor and you know all of these people that are mostly white mostly male. They have the most amount of privilege you have to free themselves from this precarity and so it it sort of shows. Is this a little bit of freelance life and economic precarity without actually having to get into that really depressing parts of the economy when you are actually talking about these things they'd real-life yeah if i felt like the steak like when i was talking about hustlers before like the stakes hustlers were so much higher because the women had children and it seemed like there was more at stake in at risk and for the kid he's nineteen hobie fine like the did the stakes just didn't seem very high Packing a single person in this movie are now the pay was the closest. We got to any kind of thing that needed caring for. Yeah the stakes were just. They were really low. And i'd just felt like mike could have tried a little harder and gotten his credit score up. Like how hard could that have been. The kid could have gotten a job but he wouldn't wear a tie like that was supposed to be. Yeah that was one of my favorite parts. I don't play that. I work at ti. Melville's tie forget it like it's hard to feel like the pathos of their situation. I guess is clearly the fuck right. I mean a kid makes precise zero good decisions in the entire movie really. He's probably fine now if we flash to twenty twenty one. What's the kid doing. He's probably what trading. Chris coin millionaire us fine and that that was my other thing i think with the movie was the ending. It all works out. Okay and magic. Mike walk away from the stripping and gets the girl it just seems so boring. Part of me wanted him to just like lose everything. I don't know i wanted something more. I liked the morning ending like i liked. The he walked away from it without really a plan and he just went to this boring girls boring apartment and they wanted to have breakfast together. I needed really know what was going to happen after that. I liked that Do you have any romance in you. Emily has all of this. Journalism just picks up in the next movie with wake her having go after him and it wasn't a great romantic ending. Sorry knows spoil spoilers but life goes on and it doesn't have to be some great lifelong romance. They just had a nice night and then breakfast together. It's really hard to make a sequel to magic mike. Where like he's given up stripping and then never takes his again because no one would watch that sequel. Also you know when he goes in the bank anywheres the suit and he like flirts with the bank loan officer which was a delightful seen and she. She gets all flustered by him but can't give them the loan beautiful necklace. No it's no it's targeted i think. Sba yes and social. Michael land zero three eight zero zero seven. Two eight and i brought the funds from down. Payment is there always a scene where a guy goes to the bank and tries to get a loan and that's a and b in real life even in twenty twelve. Don't you just go on the net on the web and try to get along with zero in tonight. In this movie. there was an iphone. He has no credit scores so he has to charm his way into alone. If he's gonna get it like the internet does not care about your charm. It sees your credit score and says no so. I'm sure he's been online. He's been rejected several times and he has try to flirt his way into alone which also doesn't work because the banks aren't into flirting. There's also a scene in falcon in winter soldier. The falcon character superhero tries to get alone. It i feel like it's some kind of cinematic hand for something else. It's just like a common thing. Now we have the lone seen. Now he doesn't he is he doesn't get it. He's a black superhero and even though he can fly and save the world. He cannot get a bank loan in america so even though magic mike can essentially fly with his body he also cannot get alone because capitalism does not reward. These things these talents. Can i talk about the scene. Dallas talks about his hypothetical kid and like whether he's going to send his hypothetical kid to school and he's like no. I'm just gonna park in front of jim. Cramer and ameritrade account and quote by the time he's eighteen and he's going to be flushing money advocate in front of the tv. Make him watch mad money all day. Long teach them about the stock market. Get him into some ameritrade shit like that. I guarantee you the time he's eighteen. That little fuckers gonna be flushing cash. Hurry up now. I don't know why more people don't do that. Just from an investment standpoint the state of the countryman america people stupid by gets your own. No problem come visit anytime one of our three full houses. That's not a good strategy felix for do that with your kids right. How go there watching. Cnbc right now. i. I couldn't tell they're not eighteen yet. So they're not quite millionaires. But they're on their way obviously. Wasn't there some story recently about some of these robo advisors opening accounts for like thirteen to fifteen year olds or something like that. I think people do that. Robinhood account. I know a lot of people who've opened up accounts for their teens to quote unquote. Teach them about investing. It's the thing. I mean compound interest being what it is. They could do well. Yeah i mean. Dallas kid is going be on our slash wall street bats and be making money on bitcoin and does coin and amc saddam's league into their. I guess imagining mike. That hasn't happened yet but that was it was christian in that sense and the precursor to that was just sitting in front of jim. Cramer for hours. Everyone just wants to get rich. Quick soderbergh made ocean's eleven which is also about a bunch of charming good looking men trying to get rich quick. I'm seeing a theme actually pledges although in ocean's eleven there really committing crimes so i like that movie. Even more victimless lawyer. Say the insurance even pays it off. Yeah exactly victims. Scream slogan lucky soderbergh. It was yeah that was another great crime caper. Other reviews also said saad aberg is known for his capitalism critique. His films have that in common but is that right. Could either of you speak to that. The one review. I read compared the stripper. Wants to be taken seriously but all anyone actually wants them to do is strip is like how hollywood the entertainment industry treats actors who want to be taken seriously in there just like movie moguls are like yeah just look pretty go beyond a superhero movie. Make money being a superhero movie to ask you guys these terrorist movie by a very very big name famous independent director. Probably the biggest name there is my independent film. Did it feel like that is one of those things where you can appreciate it on a intellectual level as well as just enjoying the acres of naked men flesh because i feel like really it's mostly just about the naked man flash. See this is where my lack of film critiquing ability comes to play but it did have that nice soderbergh in lighting and the quick cuts. That i thought was trying to message like this is an artsy movie. This isn't just a trash movie. Like i've lived in such a way. That's interesting especially the the beach scene on the little strip the tampa beach strip where they'll go and like it's like that very golden tones and has has a certain look. It seems very deliberate. That makes it seem more than just like about like men dancing. It had like a fancy look. I think there's more to it. I don't know i think if you like. Watch the movie in. Think about these people's lives underneath the acres of naked man flash as you put ago it's pretty depressing and there sort of ba. Layers of kind of critique of the economy like we've been talking about there is the cinematography and the lighting and stuff that emily was talking about. I don't know. I really like an appreciate those movie for many reasons including the strippers. Yeah i think that's right. I think there's more to it than we'll stupid movie. I also i think the dancing is really good. Like it's a fun movie. Not just because they take their clothes off but dancing is excellent. It's very entertaining. Even their clothes on. I think it would be entertaining. The dancing was funny. It was the follow up movie right. Hail caesar channing. Tatum does that amazing. Tap dance routine. I vaguely remember that. I definitely didn't see it. But so maybe so. Maybe i did need him to take his clothes off. Mean that wasn't soderbergh those cohn brothers. So let's get a verdict on this one shane. You wrote us this movie. You wanted to movie. We can assume you liked the movie iraq. The miami gives you it a grade ways the scale ears. Whatever scale you want. We're not scales. Adding i give it a seven and a half out of ten. Okay good to an eight out of ten. It's not the best movie i've ever seen but it is definitely an entertaining movie that i will see five more times. How many times have movie well including probably twice in the last month to research for this and had probably seen it two or three times before that. Wow but i also just rewatch things. I've already watched before as a rule. That's just how i consume. Things do fully pay attention when rewatch or you do other stuff depends like if you're watching with other people. I usually pay attention but other times. They'll just put it on in the background. It's a great movie to have on in the background. Because like you're doing something else and then you look over. And they're like men dancing with their shirts off with you. I think like that kind of seven and a half. maybe like seven out of ten. It is not sort of excess film by a long shot. And he's not channing. Tatum's best film by a long shot could conceivably be one of matthew mcconaughey. Ask films his his performance. Fantastic the huge weaknesses in the plot. They strike home me just because i like more verbally adept movies. I guess i like the the clever script. The script has not clever. So i can't get too excited about this film. That's another reason why it's great to have honored background because you don't really have to be listening to amlie you're going to have to give us the final vetik then. So can i switch the scales to letter grade. Please do feel i can. I mean i pretty much kind of agree well. I think that it's a b. movie. It's a b. movie. it looks really good. And yes there. Are these like interesting capitalist critiques kind of in there and the choreography is nice. It's very easy on the eyes. But the plot is pointed out the dialogue is poor except when matthew mcconaughey is talking and saying oh red red rash and yeah and there's nothing to really you know it's really just kind of like a confection like there are other movies about stripping that i think have higher stakes there are no stakes year. The plot is whatever. It's just something like you said to have on the background. So that's what makes it a b. level movie even though it's very enjoyable and there's no shame in making a successful genre. Be movie that that. That's one of the things. We like about setback. Because he dabbles in many pools. he doesn't need to achieve greatness every time. And i probably feel like he wouldn't he would feel like he isn't stretching himself enough if he did the clintons everytime and like it's nice to see a movie it's kind of small movie it only costs six and a half million to make thank. You could pedia. And it grossed one hundred sixty seven million dollars. And i feel like hollywood should make more movies like this. Fed are like cheap to make but they still look. Really good in our super entertaining. And it's not like a whole like extravaganza. No one got shot. There was a gun in the sorority party scene. And i was like. Oh my god. Why does he have a gun. Oh right it's a prop from the strip so that was nice scandal. The great thing about making a movie for six and a half million dollars is that is a small enough amount of money. That soderbergh and tatum could end. Did finance it themselves. There isn't a bunch of hollywood juices. Who was skimming off the vast majority of that hundred and six million in profits if this costs money and and made one hundred million and the producers steven soderbergh and channing. Tatum nets like obviously going to share that with a bunch of other people. But that's basically fifty million dollars each which isn't amazing day from this movie. Yeah good job does more money than you could make food superhero movie. It feels like this was fun. Movie to make fun movie to watch. I think it's great for magic mike. Next week we'll be back with a catherine bell to talk about the hudsucker proxy.

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Slate Money: Movies: Magic Mike

"Hello welcome to the magic. Mike episode of sleet money goes to the movies season two. I'm feel like salmon of axios. I'm here with emily peck. Hello and we are here with. I'm very excited about this. One the one and only shane pharaoh. Shane hello thanks for having me chain vero for some people listening to this focused. You do need an introduction. So who are you. Well i used to work with both of you. Various publications prior. I wasn't economics journalist at reuters felix and and huffington post with emily that i went to law school and now i'm a public defender in new york city. And you have a great newsletter. Yes i have an newsletter shane Dot com called cruel unusual talks about the mundane but horrific things that happened in the criminal. Legal system. I always learn something when it appears in my inbox. Shane is going to tell the story of when jane and i went to the movies one drunken evening and watch magic. Mike execs which is not the movie. We're gonna be talking about today. What is the movie we are talking about today. They were talking about the first magic mike. Twenty twelve classic about the precarity of being a freelancer in a post. Great recession gig. Economy steven soderbergh's magic mike taken apart in graded by me. Any fact inching very coming up on slate. Money goes to the movies. This episode is brought to you by. Hp instant inc. No one is reading your mind. But hp instant inc knows when you're printers running low and sends new cartridges. Before you run out so you never have to think about inc for details visit hp dot com slash instant inc spotify conditions. Apply magic. Make as i told. My daughter is a movie about dancer named mike who just wants to make. Furniture is supported and his ambitions. Now it's a movie about the gig economy. Okay in post recession. Great recession worlds and caribe of freelance work. Same more about the shame because shane is the one who picked the film. Okay so number one. Yes we have to say shane. You picked this movie. Leads starts at the beginning before we start talking about disquisitions about the tensions between labor and capital. You pick this movie you when where were you. When was it the you. I saw the phenomenon that is magic. Meg i actually. I cannot remember the first time. I saw magic mike. The first movie the one that we're talking about by. I do remember that when the second one came out magic mike x. l. which is a more fun movie although not so much about the economy felix and i had some wine and decided that we were going to go to the movies we had dinner and then we decided that was like a midnight showing the local movie. Yeah but the one of the reasons he wanted to see it was that you liked the first one. You had already seen the best one that went. Yes to be honest i think when we saw magic my ex excel. I had already seen the first one and already seen magic mike. Xl once before this is because you are a fan steven soderbergh. Yes and i am a fan of movies about male strippers. It's a noble genre. Are there any other movies about male strippers about the coal miners. We should remember that one that came in like the ninety s maybe. At's i was not born yet. So the english one about the coal miners. If i remember correctly and i can probably look this was basically an economic empowerment movie. It was this very down on. Its luck northern coal mining town and everyone was unemployed and miserable and then all of the foam coal miners had lost their jobs got together and created a group of male strippers and it was lots of fun and it was a triumphant ending when it was the opposite of this movie the full monty they ago plus. I think this movie is one in a line of movies about strippers and economics because flashdance from the eighties was essentially like the same kind of narrative. She's a stripper but she wants to be taken seriously. But there's class issues and then after magic mike. There's hustler's based on a jessica magazine a new classic which maybe we wanna do in the season where the strippers basically rob the bankers. The bankers drug them in rob them and steal their credit cards in. It's also sort of an economic tale also about the great recession ray chain. That was less the newer endre new york city great recession stripper tail. And this is the more the florida recession strawberry now. Yes two sides of the same coin. Sort of jaylo and channing. Tatum are kind of the n- actually no. I don't think that's right but similar chain place this movie for in in its proper gio time. Temporal context this is off the florida housing boom his best. And yet there's still some work for rufus. But i get enough so he works as a roofer but that's not his only job as far as i can tell he. Has i think at least four different as a freelance jobs things. He's got going so he has some work as a roofer but not enough to fully pay the bills he also has an auto detailing business at night he works as a stripper and this is all to try to save money to start a furniture business because he his real passion is to design and make furniture but he can't do that because he can't get alone because he doesn't have a clear score or he has a terrible credit score doesn't really it's never really clear. Why is it so bad. What it's like in four hundred. There's a scene where he goes to a bank for a lunch very low. We don't know exactly. We don't know what his arm so why his credit scores so low. Please do and for this. I'm going to flash back to the first season a sleep. Money goes to the movies when we watched indecent proposal and one of the first things that woody harrelson the architects when he comes into his million dollars by is this very famous. Frank gehry cod board chair and one of the first things that we see in magic. Mike when he starts talking about his business is that he has a modest florida up says apartment living situation but in the mid modest by. Yeah yeah but anyway. He has this apartment sun-drenched department and in the middle of the apartment. That is a pair of vintage round. Me's fender boss celona chaz which even in the depths of the great recession florida. You have to pay a lot of money to get those chest. I might theory is the reason you have a bad credit score is because he's been splurging on vintage furniture. Beachfront apartment bet. I'm sure cost him most of his the money he makes and he all of these things that he does he gets paid in cash there so much cash in this movie and you just can't exist in a twenty ten worlds only on cash because then you're not building credit and your credit score is going to be terrible. That's sharing. Do you think that. Mike the titular mike of the movie is what the financial services industry would call on banked. I bet he has a bank account. But it doesn't have very much money on it. And i mean i i would say he has a debit card for maybe his auto detailing business like he needs a bank account for that. But certainly the construction roofing job. He's getting paid in cash under the table and the job. He's getting paid in cash. Probably under the table. Odium if you will is where. He is paid in cash when he gets a cut of the door to remember. Yeah baby what's going on. Where miami looking. Good got a couple of loopholes. Gotta get through with the real estate attorneys down there but after that it's gonna be all green lights. What you need from me was muscle. Gotta keep doing your heads Your focus big brother this team you keep that up. You're going to make a lot more than this door money again. Ways this time straight equity kid you say so. We need to talk about the difference between the cuts door an equity. Because like maybe the mezzanine equity wait before that. I just want to add banking question. Let's remember that. Magic mike channing. Tatum has a safe in his home where he keeps his life saving thirteen thousand dollars in in the little safe. Not evenings account is is a safe with eighteen thousand dollars in like singles and fives. Which was like okay. So maybe you're like. Why are they mentioning a specific number and then later it's like okay. Yes to pay ten thousand dollars to help out the kid the worst actor in the movie and loses his life savings and the the door safe is open all empty and stuff. Now it can talk about equity. I just wanted to point out so okay so this is a movie about chain. You're saying this is a movie about economic precarity. What is the message of movie. What is it telling us about economic precarity. I think what it tells us. No one in the movie seems to have any sort of safety net except for mike who has his thirteen thousand dollars in a safe but one mistake by this kid that he has to use most of it to stop these people from destroying his house and then his entire savings is gone and he's got up the next day and go again from gig trying to make ends meet. He doesn't really get a paycheck per se but everyone seems to be living basically from paycheck to paycheck with the potentially the exception of the medical assistant sister of the kid. Although i would say she also doesn't seem like she. She seems to have her shipped together. But she doesn't. She's got the knockoff. Furniture living paycheck to paycheck. I'm sure she is. The speech of course comes from dallas from matthew mcconaughey when he basically tells mike that there's no way he can quit. There's no he can leave because like he needs this job and dallas who represents capital in this movie compared to mike you represents labor capital hit holds all. Because that's that's the speech now whether it's true or not is interesting but it's also interesting that dallas is the worker. He is out there on stage gyrating and flashing his muscles as much as any of the rest of them right. That is not a purely extractive. Form of capitalism dallas is performing here. I mean i think that dallas in many ways represents capital looks like a lot of the time in the united states like it doesn't look like the very top where people are just like not working and collecting rents. He wants to see himself that way but he actually still has to hustle and he doesn't actually have much capital at all. It all could fall through tomorrow. He's been waiting forever to be able to get the second strip club in miami and this is like some great triumph. He's able to like just scraped together enough by the way stealing from his workers because he keeps telling people all through the movie. Like you'll get one hundred dollars at the end of the night and then at the end of night comes. Here's the seventy five dollars. I promise you whatever it is. He says and he finally scraped together enough for one more branch of the strip club. Or it's not even one. I think he closes isn't closing down to miami. Yeah staying with one brunch act at this point with some matthew mcconaughey dallas research. Okay so apparently he in the script wasn't supposed to dance at all but matthew mcconaughey insisted on doing a dance in the film which was that amazing good ending scene where he just gives it his all his like sweating and people are going crazy. Second fact about that scene. Is that the extras went. So crazy with matthew mcconaughey as stripping that they ripped his g-string off for real and that's going and so that scene where he's like covering his crotch because his g. string has been ripped off. That is something that wasn't supposed to happen but they just went with it and there you have it back in march. That scene again yes. Slate money is sponsored this week by. At and t. active. Which if you're on your phone all the time which we are all on our phone all the time. You'll know that you need to do basically your entire life on an is. Your calendar is your to do list. It's your work conversations. Is your video calls. The one thing you don't want to be doing is taking a bunch of fraud telephone goals they waste your time thankfully. At and t. Makes customer security a priority helping block those pesky goals. It's not complicated. At and t. Active has twenty four seven proactive network security enthralled cold blocking to help stop threats at no extra charge. 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Yeah well it seems like he has been exploited for so long that he sees that as like the only way to project any power yes and so he is like hanging onto the shred of power that he might have by exploiting everybody else. The shred of power like the shred of g. String there's also a fascinating subplot about the dangling the equity in front of that workers so there's this whole sort of sepla for most of the movie. Where basically the idea is that. When they moved to miami. Mike is going to be a partner in the business with ten percent of equity and then already at that point. Dallas is trying to haggle him down to seven point five percent. But this place is mike squarely in the number two position in the small business. That is the male review. No one else is in line equitativa. He's in line to be like an owner of and just a worker and then a couple months later he's driving back with the kid and the k- just happens to drop in his drunken honesty. The hey yeah. Dallas has his him a kid. Seven point five percents equity and this is a betrayal of my. It's not my mind response to this is not. Hey great we all get equity. that's awesome. This is a socialist paradise. His response to this is like how on earth. I've been working for all of all of these years and working very hard to finally get that ten percent promised. Now you're just promising seven half percent to this cup of a kid what's up with that success is in just like the workers get equity in the capitalistic business. Also doing better than your fellow workers. Yeah and i think that's a way for a lot of capital two pit labor against each other in a way that keeps them from organizing. Say and that. It's just a bargaining chip to keep people at each other's throats and keep them competing with each other so that they're not actually competing with capital. The other thing i would say about the film is it's like class war elements to it because everyone in mike's orbit like all the strippers of let's just say right away delight delight we love them. They're all great and the kids sister working lady nurse technician whatever she is but then all the people that are like educated in this film with college. Degrees are absolute douches. Like the sister. Has this boyfriend. Who's just really snobby and like does better insurance workman's she does. Yeah antigen handles more higher profile insurance or something. And then there's the joanna character. That like channing that magic mike wants to like be as girlfriend and she's just can you please stop talking and be pretty like just totally dominion lamour though. She's mine right. Yeah he's really good but clearly. It looks down on him because he's a stripper. And then of course the scene where they go to the sorority party. Which why are there. A bunch of boys there. I don't understand why they're there but anyway again. It's like a class thing like here. Are these college kids and their looked down upon the trashy strippers which to be fair. He did give the girlfriend that ecstasy or whatever. But that doesn't you don't shouldn't have a bottle broken on your head over that but again wire the boys at that party. I don't understand that part if you want to explain that to me. Being a veteran of many sororities canoe. I think i've been to maybe one sorority party ever in my life. I've been fraternity parties but there are always girls a fraternity party. So like i. yeah. I i can't explain it to you. There's a fraternity party where a stripper gums. Probably they're not going to be girls there also and then also like why are the boys just huddled in the room looking all angry like i just. I didn't really understand. The dynamic doesn't really make a lot of sense engages day just needed a plot device to like get them in a fight and make him lose his ten thousand dollars worth of ecstasy also. Bad bet i thought i want to. Just this is not a club driven. No no one is watching this even if you really do take it seriously. As a disquisition on modern capitalism like the disquisition on montgelas is in the situation and the way that the whole setup is framed more than is in any kind of character arc. Although i did read one interviews even so to by where he talked about how it's about having to basically work. How what you do when you feel that the lady or performing being on the value. How do you react. What kind of decision do you make. How do you express that when you feel that you'll being on the values where you really. How was that part of the movie. When does he because he's angry. He's not getting equity that's how he's undervalued in that instance. Yeah i think dallas really undervalues him like he does a lot of the work for the strip club in terms of just going out and getting people to come and bring money in the door and thinking about it as a business while dallas's up there like onstage playing with his like flame thrower whatever not mention discovering the kid was like creating obviously a fuck up from day one and is the guy who turns out to a roofing wearing sneakers and instead of saying you obviously fuck up what he does being magic mike is. He can look pasta sneakers to the fact that this kid is actually really good looking. And that's all you need to hear successful scrip it. I listen to slate spoilers. Special podcast did an episode on magic. Mike went back. And listen to it. And i think dana stevens was pointing out like the first time the kid gets on stage. It's just ridiculous. His whole act as he takes his pants off in kisses someone and then he gets off. The stage in matthew. Mcconnahey dallas the character dallas. Like you got it kid. You're so talented. You're so good at this. You're a star and it's like wait. What how was all these on the facts. The the girls like wash their shit when he kissed them Which could have gone very poorly but because they reacted well he was a star but channing. Tatum clearly is a good dancer. Like he s star. Let's determine. Tatum is an amazing this incredible. He's doing his backflips. He's he didn't have the he did all of the back legs but he is an amazing benefit has internet. Research turned up that he did it all himself. Yeah this movie is out of biographical about yes right to stripper in tampa. And i don't know one of the things that i really wake about this movie. Is it shows how much work labor goes into their act. It really portrays like sex work as work and really put thought and effort into it and they practice and it's like physically demanding lua have to say that it was magic. Mike execs l. more than magic. Mike itself really showed the amount of work. They put into just pumping i n and watching that diet. Which is the main qualifications you need to be as favorites but you need highly visible muscles and therefore you need to be very lean and very muscle. I continue maintain that the first magic. Mike is about the economy and the second magic. Mike is about stripping although in the first one there's a scene i don't remember which dancer it was. But he lifts up like a heavier they're always lifting up the women. That's like a very core gimmick picking up a woman is an inland mail strip clubs have as someone who has not been too many of these cases. I don't know i've never been to one either shane. I this is on a research yelling on our part. We should have gone for research. Maybe it's a slate plus episode or something but anyway he picks up the heavier woman on. Uc he hurts his back. And i was like ooh occupational hazard right there. I bet you can't get workers comp or anything must be really hard on your body on it. Maybe in the biden white house. Well there is the whole speech. The dallas gives at the very beginning of the movie. Basically saying you're not allowed to do this not allowed to do that. But i don't see any police in here and you look like a bunch of lawbreakers to me and that's it right. I mean as we were saying everything. It's all cash under the table. Every single job that mike has is. I'm almost certain not being reported to the irs. Right yes yes i really. I love the opening scene. There as someone who is very passionate about there being a difference between the law and enforcement of the law. I think it's a great opening scene. What was the opening scene. I don't remember was it won't touch like goes through his body and he's like candidate touch this can And then he grabs his crotch and he says you can't touch this. But i see a bunch of lawbreakers here. Finally last one ladies. Can you tell us the law says that you cannot but i see i see a lot of law. Breakers inside yes. There's a lot of touching. I thought you were talking for some reason about the union. The roofing scene where the guys like. I'm not bringing in a union worker for this. Like i'll pay you ten dollars an hour and there's haggling there and it's just so sad that's sad without look funny bits and without nikon hey grabbing his crotch so matthew mcconaughey i think he's just the star of this thing. I mean i know channing. Tatum is technically the star and he. He's wonderful delightful. But mcconnell i just being really is wonderful. Yes in the spoiler podcasts. They wanted him to win an oscar for this. But i don't. I just couldn't watch that like triumphant final stripping scene of matthew mcconaughey as without thinking. Is this the next governor of texas. So he can't be any more ridiculous in the current governor of texas and he would play the bongos to. They got the bongos in there. He said alright. Alright alright like a million times just to make sure you knew who he was right. I mean it was incredible is good piece of casting then. He suddenly steals every scene. He's in in contradistinction. As you say to most of the rest of the cost including lake elvis presley's granddaughter with the pig. Yeah every time. I watched the movie. I'm just like i forgot. There is a small pig in this movie. Just randomly with a bottle that was disturbing. She was feeding the pig with the bottle right. Yeah i didn't care the ho character the existence of that character who she is what she said she has one line. The entire movie slate money is said this week by titan which is a company giving you access to premium investment strategies and white glove service that really up until now only the ultra wealthy have been able to access. 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That's literati dot com slash sleet to learn more and read more with literati literati dot com slash slowly. I do want to ask you shane. Is this a feminist movie in any way until and definitely prepared to say the second one is a feminist movie. I mean i think that like it has certain elements of the male strippers. The whole str- all the strip club scenes are sort of about thinking towards female pleasure like making the women happy by. I don't know that it's necessarily feminist. I mean i think it has some like feminist critique in it like the scene that we talked about with but the medical assistant sister who one is like. She's just she's got her shit together and can't understand why all these guys don't but she has this terrible boyfriend who like puts her down for the kind of work she does and just the way. That scene is framed. I liked but i. i don't know that it's explicitly. Feminist movie wouldn't pass the bechtel test. Not that that makes it automatically feminists. That's when you know give what is it at least two women talking about something other than a man like this film fails that particular thing. I was thinking about the tests. He totally fails the back. They'll test with the possible exception of late right to the beginning when those two girls were at the bar trying to get a drink and they're like one to the other. Can you get me a drink. And i think that was the one. Just men points out the women who to speak to each other. Have to be named so. That's definitely not the case in. Yeah definitely bales. The backfield test only two women who speak to each other in the film our mine and the sister when olivia munn is trying to get the sister to sleep with her and mike the only time that you women characters talk to each other. And she's like she's trying to get the sister to talk about her tattoos. Yeah to my mind the only way you could say it's feminist is that well. It doesn't women are not exploited women's bodies in this movie. It's really all about men's bodies being exploited in this movie and it's they're exploited delightful way. I thought but maybe that's what men say about most other movies where women's bodies are exploited. So i don't know that doesn't seem actually feminists now them saying all these words out loud and i had another point but i lost it because i got distracted thinking about the bodies. It's yeah i mean one thing. I will say about this movie and i think this is very conscious on. The of soda bag is that he wanted to make a very physical move movie right. The way the dancing scenes in particular basically all it seems to set up their movements of people in the frame very carefully frame very carefully set up and reading an interview with as like you really ought to be able to work out. What's going on if you're watching this with the sound off. It's not a dialogue movie in any ways shape hopeful. In fact one of the most charming pops of the movie is the way in which mike is so difficult to express himself family while heels finances so easy to express himself physically and sodeberg is basically saying movies. Don't need to be about what i can tell. The story just threw bodies in movement. And i think he does that pot of the interesting cinematic innovation. That is definitely know. We're going back to the classic. Hollywood musicals nineteen fifties. Yeah did sort of feel like a musical. The most enjoyable scenes. Were probably the dancing notches because everyone looked really good which they did. But those were the scenes in the dialogue in the acting. The plot was dumb right. I mean i know. It was a a critique of capitalism. All shane but really was it. I mean yeah. I think it is i. I do think that like it is definitely the glossiest version of this kind of critique of capitalism and as long as showgirls. It's yeah but it's there's economic precarity without anyone actually being poor and the you know all of these people that are mostly white mostly male. They have the most amount of privilege you have to free themselves from this precarity and so it it sort of show. Is this a little bit of freelance life and economic precarity without actually having to get into that really depressing parts of the economy when you are actually talking about these things they'd real-life yeah. I felt like the steak. Like when i was talking about hustlers before like the stakes and hustlers were so much higher because the women had been and it seemed like there was more at stake in at risk and for the kid he's nineteen he'll be fine like the did the stakes just didn't seem very high like a person in this movie right now. The pig was the closest we got to any kind of like that needed caring for. Yeah the stakes were just. They were really low. And i just felt like mike could have tried a little harder and gotten his credit score up. Like how hard could that have been. The kid could have gotten a job but he wouldn't wear a tie like that was supposed to be. Yeah that was one of my favorite parts. I don't play that. I work at ti melville. I didn't want tie forget it. Like it's hard to feel like the pathos of their situation. I guess is clearly like the fuck right. I mean the kid makes decisi zero good decisions in the entire movie relay. He's probably fine. Now if we flash forward to twenty twenty one. What's the kid doing. He's probably what trading crypto. He's fine and that. That was my other thing i think with the movie was the ending. It all works out. Okay and magic. Mike walks away from the stripping and gets the girl it just seems so boring. Part of me wanted him to just like lose. Everything i dunno. I wanted something more. I liked the morning like i liked. The he walked away from it without really a plan and he just went to this boring girls boring apartment and they wanted to have breakfast together. I needed really know it was going to happen after that i liked to do you have any romance in you. Emily is has all of this journalism just up in the next movie with like her having left him and it wasn't a great romantic ending. Sorry no spoil well spoilers but life goes on and it doesn't have to be some great. Lifelong romance status had a nice night and then breakfast together. It's really hard to make a sequel to magic. Mike were like he's given up stripping and then never takes off again because no one would watch that sequel Also you know when he goes on the bank anywheres the suit any like flirts with a bank loan officer which was a delightful scene and she. She gets all flustered by him but can't give him the loan beautiful necklace. No it's no it's sister target i think. Sba yes and social michael lane. Zero three eight zero zero seven one eight and brought the funds down payment. Is there always a scene where a guy goes to the bank and tries to get a loan. And that's a and b in real life even in twenty twelve. Don't you just go on the net on the web and try to get along zero in tonight. In this movie there was an iphone. He has no credit scores so he has to charm his way into alone. If he's gonna get it like the internet does not care about your charm a credit score and says no so. I'm sure he's been online. He's been rejected several times and he has to try to flirt his way into alone which also doesn't work because the banks aren't into flirting. There's also a scene in falcon in winter soldier where the falcon character superhero tries to get alone it. I feel like it's some kind of cinematic shorthand for something else. It's just like a common thing. Now we have the lone seen. Now he doesn't he is he doesn't get it. He's a black superhero and even though he can fly and save the world. He cannot get a bank loan in america so even though magic mike can essentially fly with his body he also cannot get alone because capitalism does not reward. These things these talents. Can i talk about the scene. Dallas talks about his hypothetical kid and whether he's going to send his hypothetical kid to school and he's like no. I'm just gonna park in front of jim. Cramer and ameritrade account and quote by the time he's eighteen. he's going to be flushing. Money advocate in front of tv. Make him watch mad money going to teach them about the stock market. Get him into some ameritrade and shit like that. I guarantee you by the time he's eighteen. That little fuckers gonna be flushing cat. I don't know why more people don't do that. Just from an investment standpoint. We'll as the state of the countryman. america people stupid. Nobody gets your kids. Someday i'll no problem come visit anytime one of our three full houses do. That's not a good strategy felix for that with your kids. How did it work out there watching cnbc right now. I know i couldn't tell they're not eighteen yet so they're not quite millionaires. But they're on their way. Obviously wasn't there some story recently about some of these robo advisors like opening accounts for like thirteen to fifteen year olds or something like that. I think people do that. People robinhood account. I know a lot of people who've opened accounts for their teens to quote unquote. Teach them about investing. It's the thing. I mean compound interest being what it is. They they could do well. Yeah i mean. Dialysis kid is going beyond our slash wall street bets and be making money on bitcoin adoc coin and amc saddam's league into that. I guess imagining mike. That hasn't happened yet but that was it was pressing in that sense. The precursor to that was just sitting in front of jim. Cramer for hours. Everyone just wants to get rich. Quick soderbergh also made ocean's eleven which is also about a bunch of good looking men trying to get rich quick. I'm seeing a theme actually. Although in ocean's eleven there really committing crimes. So i like that. Maybe even more victimless lawyer. The insurance even pays it off. Yeah exactly victims. Fine slogan lucky soderbergh. I think it was. Yeah that was. Another great crime caper. Other reviews also said soderbergh is known for his capitalism critique. His films have that in common but is that right. Could either of you speak to that. The one review. I read compared the stripper. Wants to be taken seriously but all anyone actually wants them to do is strip is like how hollywood the entertainment industry treats actors who want to be taken seriously in there just like movie moguls are like yeah. Just look pretty gobierno superhero movie. Make money being a superhero movie. I need to ask you guys. It isn't oh 'terrorist movie by a very very big name. Famous independent director. Probably the biggest name. There isn't my independent film. Did it feel like that. Is this one of those things where you can appreciate it on a intellectual level as well as just enjoying the acres of naked men flesh. Because i feel like really it's mostly just about the naked man flash. See this is where my lack of film critiquing ability comes to play but it did have that nice to bergen lighting and the quick cuts. That i thought was trying to message like this is an artsy movie. This isn't just a trash movie. Like i've lived in such a way that's like especially the the beach scene on the little strip the tampa beach strip where they'll go and like it's like that very golden tones and has has certain look. It seems very deliberate. That makes it seem more than just like about like hot man dancing. It had like a fancy look. I think there's more to it. I don't know i think if you like. Watch the movie in. Think about these people's lives underneath the acres of naked man flash as you put it. It's pretty depressing and they're sort of ba. Layers of kind of critique of the economy like we've been talking about there is cinematography and the lighting and stuff that emily was talking about. I don't know. I really like an appreciate those movie for many reasons including the strippers think. That's right. I think there's more to it than we'll stupid movie. I also i think the dancing is really good. Like it's a fun movie. Not just because they take their clothes off but the dancing is excellent. It's very entertaining. Even their clothes on. I think it would be entertaining. The dnc was funny. It the follow up movie. Hail caesar channing. Tatum does that amazing. Tap dance routine. I vaguely remember that. I definitely didn't see it. But so maybe so. Maybe i did need him to take his clothes off. Although that wasn't about those the cohn brothers. So let's get a verdict on this one. Shane you with us this movie you wanted to movie. We can assume you liked the movie iraq. The miami gives give it a grade whereas the scale areas. Whatever scale you. We're not fassi scales. Give it a seven and a half out of ten. Okay good to an eight out of ten. It's not the best movie i've ever seen but it is definitely an entertaining movie that i will see five more times. How many times have movie well. Including i saw it. Probably twice in the last month to research for this and had probably seen it two or three times before that. Wow but i also just watch things. I've already watched before as a rule. That's just how i consume. Things do fully pay attention when you re watch or you do other stuff depends like if you're watching with other people. I usually pay attention but other times. They'll just put it on in the background. It's a great movie to have on in the background. Because like you're doing something else and then you look over and they're like men dancing with their shirts off with you. I think like that kind of seven enough. Maybe like seven out of ten. It is not sort of excess by a long shot. and he's not channing. Tatum's best film by a long shot could conceivably be one of matthew mcconaughey. Ask films his his performance. Fantastic the huge weaknesses in the plot. Day strike home for me. Just because i like more verbally adept movies. I guess i like the the clever scripts. This script has not clever. So i can't get too excited about this film. That's another reason why it's great to have honored background because you don't really have to be listening to it bam leave. You're going to have to give us the final vetik then. So can i switch the scales to letter grade. Please do feel i can. I mean i pretty much kind of agree well. I think that it's a b. movie. It's a great movie. it looks really good. And yes there. Are these like interesting capitalist critiques kind of in there and the choreography is nice. It's very easy on the eyes but the plot is dumb. As felix's pointed out the dialogue is poor except when matthew mcconaughey is talking and saying oh red red rash and yeah and there's nothing to really you know it's really just a kind of like a confection like there are other movies about stripping that i think have higher stakes there are no stakes here. The plot is whatever. It's something like you said to have on the background. So that's what makes it a bi level movie even though it's very enjoyable and there's no shame in making a successful genre be movie salmon. That best one of the things. We like about setback. He dabbles in many pools. He doesn't need to achieve greatness every time. And i feel like he wouldn't he would feel like he isn't stretching himself enough if he did you've every time like it's nice to see a movie. It's kind of a small movie. It only costs six and a half million to make. Thank you wikipedia. And it grossed one hundred sixty seven million dollars. And i feel like hollywood should make more movies like this. That are like to make but they still look really good in our super entertaining. It's not like a whole like extravaganza. No one got shot. There was a gun in the sorority party scene. And i was like. Oh my god. Why does he have a gun. And i was like all right. It's a prop from the strip so that was nice about labor scandal. The great thing about making a movie for six and a half million dollars is that is a small enough amount of money. That sorta beg and tatum could ended. Did finance it themselves. They're a bunch of renting. A hollywood produces is skimming off the vast majority of that hundred and six million in profits. This costs money and and made one hundred million and the producers steven soderbergh and channing. Tatum nets like obviously going to share that with a bunch of other people. But that's basically fifty million dollars each which isn't amazing day from this movie. Yeah good job does more money than you could make food superhero movie. It feels like this was a fun movie to make fun movie to watch. I think it's great. That's it for magic mike. next week. We'll be back with kathleen bell to talk about the hudsucker proxy.

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Gabriel Iglesias, Comedian & Actor | Hotboxin with Mike Tyson

Hotboxin' with Mike Tyson

53:20 min | 4 months ago

Gabriel Iglesias, Comedian & Actor | Hotboxin with Mike Tyson

"Magic mike strip club guy right. Yeah that's a stripper and not tell me about that. I wasn't that making my dan underneath. It all stayed on was when people recognize me from that movie and then they tell their friends and they're like he was in bajic mike and then they look at me like what happened. You know wasn't cgi wasn't no. But i wasn't. You know what her what's up burger buddy has walked this episode hot box with triple c. aka. Hello and i'm like. Hey we're here with fluffy game i do. I'm doing. i'm doing good mike. I'm doing good. I came here. I knew who you were but with my son he knew who you are ten years old. That the hell he no. Gabriel gleason normal correct people. But in this case go to well see it's type. Shit you go in beauty queen some shell and you got a pretty good. I'm doing really really nice. It's an honor to be here at the ranch on smoking people. No that's where this is. This is the rare okay. This is where i work for fighters prepared this also my office where we do our business and we also do boxing. It's awesome. you have a lot. You have more cameras in here than sitcom hey listen. These badges started paying. We used to do this for free. Now you pay for this shit commercial and shit right. Yeah commercial day with a right. I've been fellow. Hello and five years out. I don't know these motherfucking just started a gap noda dan in note them now mike. This is dan mike. I'm getting no bad after six months. I know this is dan. Gabriel i find your life fascinating man i think because i grew up as a single parent kid too and i think the excited no on the last one on the last one he's He's blessed six and there's about thirteen roughly years between my sister myself so i grew up only child. She was up and out of the house by the time. I was old enough to wanna room. How is your bringing up like going with that day You know pretty awesome. Because i was the only one in the house. So i had all the attention from my neighborhood would may report how Not too far from here actually in the city of long beach i was born in san diego group in long beach. And you know. I still live there. Beaches cool you have is a quick drive over here. I was like oh my god. You have like a farmer boy. I don't know if you know that. Got farmer boys. I thought they only had those in the inland empire. That's why it's been three known. Affirmative boys is like a god. It's like a cracker barrel or famous dave's kind of a more like breakfast. Real hearty breakfast he place and i always see the commercials on tv and former boys. And i'm like oh you know and i'm like oh god that's far. That's at least an hour drive. I'm like no jack in the box. Cross the street when you start this shit. let's life. I started fool. What inspired you. Who'd man. I'm gonna be forty five so i mean my my comics. Heroes were robin williams. Paul rodriguez eddie murphy. Eddie murphy. Raw was a comedy special. I saw and i said ooh you know and not really the the comic you would think it would inspire a comic that works relatively clean. It will but eddie murphy was. He was a rock star. He walked out on stage. He commanded the crowd. He did impressions he told stories and it was just it was awesome and i said i want that. I don't know how it's going to happen. But i want that dream very official related buddha ramnath. I wanna be that same thing back then. Yeah house do. But i will be that he s would almost starts with inspiration. Ryan like it starts with imagination that you create your mind. You don't know that you created in your mind once you see this. What is the life of his own right. And how old were you at this time while. It was ten years old when i saw the comedy special and i was just like by the time i finally did it. I did a talent show. And i did impressions on stage. Yeah i didn't always doing comedy. I just knew that i was doing these little. You know ten year old kid. Doing the pressures of the president of you know mickey mouse and all these other little characters and so to do that and then that was the spark when i actually heard the reaction from the crowd as a ten year old. I says that this is going to happen. And so I joined the speech team. When i was in high school and then a couple years out of high school i got up on stage one night and i've been doing it ever since had hit and you kept doing it in a nominee your first time you normally get some successes and when you can get the bug. He can't stop thinking about it. That's why i encourage people all the time. If you got something that you're really passionate about frigging it and all you don't look for other people's approval because you wanna do back did a bunch of movies before once i got on stage. That was totally different animal. You want that feeling. All the time can't live without stat drug on my ear able to connect with so many people want just like when you make them make them sad right. You can play them. I can't explain it right this. We strange yeah because it's it's mad. There's there's so many aspects to just just life into the journeys that how the how they're almost very like similar to each other. just different. Sports is like mike like you. And you guys can relate a lot most athletes and entertainers. They mostly live in the same neighborhood. At the same handed they probably know each other before they got famous. And that's basically the same kind of habit late nights and stuff light of women drinking drugs whatever they have the same lifestyle slow. Not only. They do associated with each other. Who are your some of some of your all time. Great stand up. Comedians are probably. He does get a smarter. don't think. Show the footage of before i got into boxing. I'm not gonna lie. I was nervous. I'm like you know what The last time i you know did anything. Smoking wise on in public. That people knew about was with snoop. And it's like okay. Do shows new. Of course you know if it happens it happens always in that one and kinda. The same rule applies here today. Where i was like well all write my casually. Take this and i'm like and i apologize for if you don't appreciate people doing impressions though because yeah no no on. That's it by the way i wouldn't have done that. Inner voice became the outer voice. Because apparently you have for is incredible. I was i back there. And i'm like okay. I guess we're doing this. And next thing i know i'm halfway through one of those bats Okay this is going to be in a different direction. What if i feel like we're not just going to talk about how often you not always going to be like game ever done shoes before mushroom nolan today to me. Please refer your super mario here. You go wait. No no no no yes. I feel very relaxed but at the same time. Alert to alert. Som- this you know but the work you heard the last what that was. And then my mom would've called a chronic chronic here man. I i imagine as a kid to where you always fluff even as a kid. I've always been a big kid. You know that was one of those things. I was always the kid of the husky pants or You know they gotta here. If you're just try to put you on a slim fast diet or drink just shake. I'm always always been big was always been i was little. I imagine like having like you. You have to have a good sense of humor. Like you know what i mean being. Have you wanna be a communist like me like short news. I do short jokes. You know what i'm saying so it's almost like as a kid that you that you always have that sense of humor No man i actually. I think i spent a lot of the time being upset by the jokes and stuff like that it was kinda like it turned into a defense mechanism. Couldn't really physically do anything about it. Let me try to find a way to changes and take away their power by making fun or cracking jokes and being okay with it whatever. You don't care what you call you. Can't you can't upset me so you start learning how to find your own ways of dealing with that and humor seem like the best way so it's like you know some people say oh poor guys a big guy but you know it was because of that that something happened that wound up inspiring and motivating me to want to do what i do 'cause now you now you make money i mean obviously the the character the name the standoff it's at our revolved around something that you probably didn't accept you know at the shows i will come out of there and people come up to me and they go. Hey great job fluffy way. I did one joke where i said the word. I figured i already. You know i'm sorry. The last name already famous names been around for forty years. I just got to work on. The gabriel and people would gravitate to the fluffy thing above everything so i hated being called fluffy but i only had about ten minutes of material and that was like a large chunk of material. So new comic. You don't wanna give up. Jokes eventually learned to not only accept it. But you know a take it to a place where we just like. Yes i own the word. I basically own the word if you put fluffy on any search engine. I am the number one search for that word because i embraced it. So many years ago and learned brandon really are. Would you ran into like an. I don't know if i don't know if you already like are into the food business. You know what it's tricky I had thought about opening up a restaurant two years ago known. It's a good thing i pulled do. Plug on those and meets while. I'm you know any kind of restaurant. Where the or you just say it's fro them me or frozen meats. You could sell the many restaurants not just one okay. Manhattan like bright other bread fluffs up and he gets you know. It's fluffy all like things like that. Like i thought about that name is money bro. Yeah name is money. I could go via different fees kathy. I'm definitely gonna fluffy for some sweet schitt s. Really cool didn't it. Yeah the do that do that. Russia right there walking some sweet. Yeah from the hangover from the high little fluffy so either a bakery or like a would call it a fluff and fold laundry and stuff because it's the word fluff senate luffing feed all. They'd be shit so the transition from going to a from a stand up to to hollywood man. How has what did that transition started. You always picture soft by doing voiceovers and an acting and things of that nature I think in the beginning it was one of those your preprogramed as as a comic your preprogramed for certain goals for example every comic back in the day always wanted to have the tonight show up so they wanted to have the. Hbo special not netflix special. Because there was no net flicks not showtime the they wanted to. Hbo special then. They wanted the sitcom once. They got to the sitcom level than they could build a fan base from that that everybody so when they go on the road they could sell tickets. That was always the pre-programme goal. You gotta do this. Do this do this. And then once you don't tv then you could try to make that transition to film. So everything was looked at as a stepping-stone would stand up being the first step on so like with me primary the place. I love being on stage. I was my number. One love My manager. I took on a manager. Because i work that love it. You gotta love someone gotta pull you off. you know. But i'm gonna ask you this question mike but you know there comes a time like even you as an athlete. You're boxing or you do this. You've been doing that for so long that it's almost like you start to hate it or you love someone that you hate it. You know what i'm saying. Do you lose. do you lose. Love out of something live comedy. Boxing partner understanding comes certain that you can do it at the level that you really wanna do it. And after the top level. This acting game is immortal. Keeps you living forever. You know what they have a week on broadway of something big theory of something. You can't imagine anything better. If you wanna know sky like attention like seeing yourself on tolo is in you know. And i don't. I'd be saying why i make like that. But that's the kind of guy you'd be surprised when i my put a camera in my face you know maybe be surprise is just the drug. I'm i'm fucked up. I'm sorry. I grew up in the nineties. I know what you said on camera would put a care face. Say anything no shame. I don't know why. I hate being at the point home. You put a care faith. I turned. I always used to wonder like what does what that's what he's saying on camera. I wonder what he says to the fighters ring hitting these guys you. I'm sure you're not just quiet. Pow pow long pig jerry. Tony buddy as soon as i beach or something just basically bad stupid shit that god please forgive me. I imagine. I imagine how fun it is. because you know. Mike has cartoon but imagine how fun it's been to do all these like Sequels of the ice age Scooby doo space jam. You're gonna be part of this new movie with the with the brand change in space shamma. Yeah i'm very excited to do the. Imagine that yeah forever and there's going to be no forget you. I'm the first one bugs. bunny more. saint you remember jordan and they will remember it with fluffy so fluffy gets the play. Speedy gonzales on this one. I'm a mexican place. Slow poke rodriguez poker. Regan's got a big gun shoes. The cat rodriguez during this Fresno paul rodriguez poured we slow. Boat is a speedy gonzales. Go slow you'll have to run on big a boost brain slow. Poke ghetto cousin. We all have you only invite them when you can watch him at all times. Yeah are they gonna have him in the movie this little. No no. there's no slow poke in the movie. I think that was a character that kind of thinking. Speedy gonzales was and why they try to cancel them little. Poking how's it. how's it been. How's it been with code. How's it how have you been doing. How's it been imagine. Did you guys go online to like like the rest of the world with stand up and things like that as soon as it hit i. I knew this wasn't going to be a two week thing. I already knew in my gut. There's no way this is two weeks five. Say the first month. I was super bummed out and depressed. That i you know. I'm on stage in front of people every single night and all of a sudden i'm in my room and it's you alone. Yeah i live alone just me and my dogs and it's just like we're not going anywhere today either. I practice on my wife. And i make up from three until waisome from ships fight. But i'm not really mad by made the fighter make. I'm going to play around me. I just fucking my wife driving. Nuts i listen at the job. My wife nuts. I'm really practicing was having fun. Yeah my wife nuts. Because you're someone cleaning rating still here. All k- i'm like. Wow i problem is probably this. Probably one of our cousins. I know also put putting that mike but yeah it's keeps down that right hearing thing. But when when colbert hitman i basically. I had to find other things that i was good at. You know. i had a work on other skills in order to pass the time. You can't spend time in front of people. So i started messing around making a created a tiktok start playing videos. Just trying to stay creative in some way you know working on some potential scripts. I did the voiceover for space jam. So that was one of the things that are working on. So yeah. it's a huge honour. Huge honor warner brothers. Took a chance. I defended the character when they tried to cancel it. And so there's nothing wrong with speedy gonzales. Mexican people love speedy. Gonzales is like one of our heroes. you can't just what his crime is. East fast talks fast. I'm gonna be tyson pain. The cat named sucker sucker. Yeah that's that's that's just sounds evil. Mike created new stripper. New thing right cartoon did not for for a kid. I didn't understand. I caught those too complex bugs bunny woodpecker and speedy dollars old understood. What's your what's your favorite piece up to this Up to this date you pretty cool stuff in your in your career. What do you think is like your your top dhabi's base to uconn. She says i haven this is. This is my best splaine. First person. beth. Like you feel your heart. You say this is my best. You know it's i think that whatever you've done for me anyways the last thing that i did because it's just like the progress. The growth eight each one of the specials. Each thing that i did was Something that helped grow into that next spot. So i mean it's like you know Every time you do something you got to make it a little bit better than the last time. Otherwise you know you become somebody pass you up. He has for you almost like you had to constantly be competing. Because you're right. It's like that in the game the nfl. There's there's a. There's a champion there another championship. That's why nobody's greater than the sport of boxing. That's where there's nobody greater than the than the you know the in the event of standoff you know what i'm saying because people will always trickle and you know what i'm saying. The greatest of all time is always the one that's straight behind. You buy a little bit. And if you don't move you're going to hand over the grease kind not forget. This could handle disappointments. It never gets discouraged no matter what that does. This is all about being champion challenged by the by the how bad you really want much. You really believe in it. How do you answer that. I don't know this is a good one. We're trying to formulate something cheaper but you know you feel special. You know i mean you no you. You're definitely assam in average. You feel better than anybody else if not destined for not. Don't you feel that way. I think that. I was definitely put here to put smiles on faces absolutely. I think that was. That was my gift what i wanted to no accidents. You know. no god don't make mistakes. We will hear for whatever reason. Yeah that's why. I try to keep the shows as friendly as i can. Which is why think your ten year old son could watch the show exist so many different things that i've worked on but i always try to keep a certain you know like i don't like talking about religion my show. I don't like talking about sports and my shows talking about politics because they're divisive because able to keep the a friendly talk about friends family fund. Hangouts i'm gonna talk about this at some point knife. My you like my god. We started talking about the universe. The couch opened up man. I still winded the frog. Notice the frog avenue yeah. That's the tobin psychedelic man. On-loan psychedelics does. That does that frog. Have a name mike. I feel like that frog. Lives on this this hermit as her. Okay yeah so you have kermit kermit kermit special coming up is coming up and it. Be coming up on netflix here pretty soon. Yeah how did you feel when you have a gig. They wanted to jake anytime. you know. You got some more coming up out. You're always excited. You're looking forward to it. One they call it a special. It definitely has a special you feel. There's more to that specific thing you're doing than any other night. When you're doing your shows is and the i don't wanna and entertain one person and i ended entertained ten thousand if one person's looking at me i today. No the bug found the lamb like that. So is it criminal hermit permit. Okay all right all right. We'll delete gonna start talking right now for kermit. Yeah man. i'm the last comic standing. Do you talk about a little bit about that. Man was a long time ago. Yeah i got kicked off the show for having a blackberry. that's how long ago was a blackberry. Remember the blackberry phone. You weren't supposed to have that When you're the last comic standing you know you're competing against each other and they're afraid that if you have a cell phone that might we're gonna we're gonna send you. They're going to send you out zero jokes to help you get to the next round and so you got kicked out for. We don't mean cheating cheating. I was just. I had a new girlfriend at the time. And you're gonna put me in a hotel for a week. And i just hooked up with this new girl and i'm like no i wanted to keep tabs so i snuck in my phone so i can stay in touch with her bad kid man of us on the show with me. That's left stor some love and will fluff but it won't get kicked off the show and because i got kicked off the show i didn't go down the route of whatever they wanted me to do. I broke off. And i was able to do my own thing. So it's almost like because you became a rubble it was it was able to spark up your you your career. I mean it's been i. Did you watch the last Was it like that. Imagine you know sometimes when somebody when something dramatic happens on a on a tv show. It's in the person breaks often able to make it in house. Because you're somewhat known as a rebel. You know what i'm saying. I think everybody nothing that you're a rebel. Which is a nice guy. Oil sky reputation but rebel. I think everybody has to have a rebel in them. In order to to advance to get better to grow as whether it's an your career and your life you always have to do something a little bit different little bit uncomfortable a little bit outside the box in order to get to where you want to be you know so everybody has to you know man just you know sometimes you gotta take control of your own if you wanna get there otherwise you're just gonna continue to do the same the same thing day after day. So do you think being kicked off from the show eating that led more to your to your destiny. Yes because then. I had to fight to prove that it wasn't a mistake. I needed a show like to myself more than anyone. That man a a you know a drop in the bucket of disappointments along the way there's gonna be many more common. I just got get through this one and get onto the next thing you know so it made me want to go out and just work more. Do more shows get get in front of as many people as possible. What was your Breakthrough mike what do you think it was for you. Something that just like you know that triggered fighting from the amateurs from we first start in the amateurs and professional. Because there's a sweat. They've ever happened to me. I lost my family fight when i was around. Sixteen ago for the guy. Twenty five and twenty five years. Nagina open and i was ridiculous. It was a close fight by fort real hard the isles while he was a little bit more experienced. I was but that loss helped me learn a lot. Yeah i'm so happy i had. That wouldn't have never learnt so they'll show also later in life so that's my average your first time ever competing down. I did not know that it was in boston. He's a local boy and it was packed. Round on the what. Fifteen twenty thousand people who were fighting amateurs and it was new york against massachusetts. It was packed. You still remember that to this day. Now forgive and forget and forty years later. you're still a still kinda. Yeah that's awesome a- never forget your fights yeah disappointments in nelson. You have be careful at. Listen just like in being entertained. Whatever you do best in life today in your job you gotta be careful how you live your life. I mean live your workplace like my fight. You always have to be careful. You fight your fight. Fight fight to be the way you live your life and we all is by the way we do our job and we had extreme job. Even comedians extreme job extreme frank constantly working. That's not really fucking normal brand half the rest and then anytime you're public people coming up to you and you gotta always wonder. How are they gonna approach you. Are they going to be nice. Are they going to be ruled. It'd be allowed. Yeah you know. And so you've got to prepare yourself sometimes. It's not just one person sometimes. It's sometimes we take people around with the lakers. But they're not warm exactly entitled. Yeah my wife said. They feel like they own you in new york. That is true people. Have you really feel like they own you. They come from your neighborhood or something. It's just how it is in. You always all something to someone. You always walking around like that. 'cause in reality we do everybody. Let me buddy. Everybody'll god to give breath. We owe each other to learn from one. Another in may even enemies could teach us about. Fels is one big school world is just one big school in whiffs. Do you have kids. Gabriel you have You have a family wife no wife. I have a son named barton those name. I promise on my stop talking about on. Tv this isn't a technically tv. Though right frank peak-time television for games and mike. Tyson said your name. Frankie glee furious original his last offering so lucky. So you train all your friends. They know if they know who that is. Tied that yeah. It's like Do you wish to keep that private because of kind of which you would you. You know obviously being famous while you know. I think we signed up for the attention and the spotlight. Our families don't always good luck. Yeah family friends and stuff like that there. They didn't sign up for that. They want to be with you. Know the person not the thing that everybody sees and so they don't want to deal with that sometimes. They're good about a bus kid. Be looking at you want this dad. This is what you want one month. Look at me. I want wanna walk with my kids will buy. The basic people started coming in nothing. My kids walking away. Fli feel nervous away for me on the outskirts of everything. They where you go. I'm by myself with the crowd. They don't wanna be appointed. I love you love that that it'll be a part of that stuff so that's why i try to keep the private. They don't want their business out there. I mean yeah. People people forget about that. Mike you know. I think of you give selfie some time to think about it. But if they know is pushing the children away from you. God children just started thinking. I'm cool again. I am back in. You know me in a good graces magic mike. Two are you are you. Are you comfortable segue. i'm good. I'm good on my kids and magic mike. Well delivered that little bit goes club and i was in that attack naked. My dan also talked to help us. I was the only actor magic. Mike who was allowed to go to cranston. Japan's have dancing. I the car. I did this one just in the car. I think it'd be a lot of money. I was very happy to more on the head had a sequel. And so i got i got to be in. Two movies are also. I'll do. that's cool man. I imagine that i remember. That movie was a hit man. Every every goes talking. What's funny though is when people recognize me from that movie and then they tell their friends and they're like he was in bajic mike and they look at me. Like what happened was the cgi. I like no no. I was in it but i wasn't in you know i didn't but it was good times speaking about celebrity boxing. Mike what did you think of of. Wanna talk to you about that ono. And i think the good but he needs the guy was big was hurting the guy. The guy with big normally guy was his way. He wasn't really hit floyd heart fluid take the shot but that guy hitting a small heavyweight found floyd like hundred and fifty something thirty pound different lot to do. I didn't know that the the wait was such a difference. Would you do you think that. I think that that helped box. Obviously flow would beat them by points. Someone's like because he didn't he didn't he didn't put it on over didn't hurt them. It's what she did he maybe he came out and she may be prepared properly. Maybe then spot with a heavyweight. That's what that guy was small heavyweight. Yeah yeah at no point. Did i ever feel like it was going bad for floyd. Felt like you know he just must-carry carry it. No how can k. The by is getting the guy who made them complicated. Kyle is all fighting years. He was using his lane and then he was clinch. And then dude. Who do you don't have that type of stamina like people. People don't recognize boxing. Pressure boxing pressure from the pure sport of boxing. You guys pressure scariness. Different you know what i'm saying but if somebody just pressured anyways what i'm saying is jake policy. But withstand at least eight rounds. Yes i should hard mike. Oh no doubt about it. Listen that's why. I i can never think negative about floyd condition is not easy. You know that this fight you your mind going. And he's got it all the governor and shit you start going wrong. There is a is a hard business muscle psychological physical so the logical. Do you think. Do you think best. How boxing boxing do what it's gonna do you know. I don't think pasta. You know people have look and say. Florida forty four. This is a young guy thirty pounds heavier. he's younger. You who can Expect them difficult fight. I believe flee with ahead Very intelligent. I thought that he would arrange this. Different leaf. ten pounds different. You know of thirty. What the fuck. Or maybe the five brothers lighter right brother jake positively finding you keep up with the mixed martial arts boxing or anything definitely boxing. A referee that fight for chavez a senior awesome right. I would definitely do. How'd you hear about that. You know for any that we always get together. I always see latest bike. Oh man i think the rand james afraid channels i think camacho come on either camacho or much junior right phil i crave. That's heavy referee defied before You have said you'll see that is fighting britain in prison in great britain on. Great britain didn't didn't you rectified. It wrestlemainia yeah house. Find that that i love wrestling. I love also your big. You're you're a big. Wwe fans w. w w. and then. Now it's you know. They got they got a couple of companies titian. Whose whose who are some of your your rates men in. Wwe man know originals. Of course hogan for me Stone cold steve austin loves. Don't remember before yes don't care. Yeah you have. that's right. yeah you went up against on code. Yeah right samuel tino. He's he's making the s and early. He used to work out with Schwarzenegger together breath. Martinez arnold schwarzenegger. Oh you always see those old school black and whites seventeen demand now. I tried it once on account for shoot and the one me falling off the ring just to get on the floor hurt. And i'm like there's no way i could handle being a professional wrestler. Yeah the the the number the wrestler new jack from yes always something that guy bill. That's a crime. He a quick. You gotta see. This showed us like he did. Some time for the new jack was insane. There's a reason thirty something crazy. This shit he's the most extreme wrestling i've ever seen like he cut his forehead and looking forward that i never even this assignment right there in san mines one of the most hardcore wrestlers every also these These are kamikazes. He definitely knew actually stabbed a guy in the ring. M fade. i don't wear the guy did something he did. Something like real In the corner punched his nose or something and then new. Jacks stab the guy. In the ring he had an tasers he pays them with an actual tasers so he pays them of craven any. Oh yeah call the cops li. I love the new. Jack was saw an apologetic to right there. I wanted him to hit the floor wall. All the dudes do died. No no no. He didn't die from that. Something else was like the years later that the rest of you would've gotten into wrestling if you wouldn't have done definitely resume you got macho man or do you got the whole. The whole store called talking to tyson silas colleague about damn turn on your show a small here. I was wondering You go under mighty one bien marijuana Yeah speeding on lama leaving hanging out with mike tyson. You don't flinch. People don't lead to hide the flinch. Man yeah yeah. A big fan of boxing big fan of wrestling ama- up everytime dana white shows up on my feet. Because i followed dana. Why i'm just like what's going to happen today. He's so just job in the world bat promote yeah yeah mortified but yeah he's always you know what i'm saying he's always got something to say mccain now. Africa wants to fight him. Yeah oscar the lawyer. Dana white oscar would put it on different. There's because they wanna they wanna make oscar deliver. Shes gsp but oscar would hurt gsp to the. Why didn't want to let it happen. Saw shit yeah. G. of league punch. Shit compliance in oscars a fighter. He's entering the fight to you. May whether we're gonna be all defensive. This is this is coming at you to kill. You do fuck you even. Yeah i gave it. What's what's next. What is this year. Twenty twenty one bring bring to you hopefully a lot of work and health prosperity. Thank you mike mine. I'm just having an awesome time. Except for just a second gopher. Just i man i brought pictures. I wanna make sure pictures i can put in the man. I wish you weren't a degeneration expert of back in the day of the westland. That's excellent to the hall of fame. Fisherman. what are some of the greatest members you have a of my at growing up. We'd always look forward to those Either either hbo or like tko pay per view and you know it was back and forth. It was travis watching. I was watching the tyson fight so that we yeah oh man so we. we learned. That was soon as mike's fight starts. Don't leave the couch. That was some link to the third round brand nine hundred ten times. There was the third route like you would have missed it because one time. I almost did mystifying. Because i was getting up in my brother-in-law pulls me back. He's like eight. Puerto rican do love. You don't big Camacho fan but he pulled me back and he's like watch. Africa was. I was probably what thirteen at the time. And all your all your fights were just you know. That's my childhood. Yeah my childhood was you know again. allow us in the same beautiful may talked. Lavish shit yeah. I saw his his show on documentaries. Documentary on showtime sh camacho. Was that one fight. That changed everything where he used to be a fighter and he started kind of play. More defensively had one fight that really Kind of brought them back to reality. So you kind of started. Shying away from the person he used to be any kind of started losing a little bit got into drugs just that whole nine but had a lot of love for his mom and just the way he was Murdered if you would say and puerto. Rico is coaching. We grew up around people like that and now we always get caught up into a pass now. This stuff is not easy stuff. You love stuffing not easy. Did they ever catch the person that did i want that they had. They said they had clues. They needed the gooden something clean. You know mike no but they had closed show the same. We have to have some of the other. The other fighters like johnny tapia was another one who i was my amateurs area. I do this crazy my your party with them. We hung just you know he was wildly. The good person is just one of the brothers. They were abused as a kid had a chip on his show. The little guy but the tough mean motherfucker in find anybody who who are some of the closest mike who are some of the closest boxing friends who won world titles that we probably know that you're closest to shabby trinidad. Some trinidad trinidad to. He's always used to be promoted with us. Do you ever go out to puerto rico with them. Yeah how's that he was the king out there. Yeah how did they added the puerto rico. People receiving done that good. I've been there a couple of times. Yeah and i've been Cooler chevy you want to call it. That would be answers as far as i can say here. Probably you probably wouldn't party and kick the with chop who knows man who knows. Yeah that's interesting people. Every time somebody was kind of my family like why we're a really good. My son is over there. call it a day. Man we'll gabriel. What advice she got from a mike man he just. He's home but he just stay on the same path to determination drive to will the wanna do this stuff to win more than anybody else wanted. Yes yes you know some old black and white movie western. This as i wanna be up more than anybody wants me to be down if look at life like that and it happened that way. Whatever you say yours what you are you think if you see your superfood that's what you're is great genius. That's what you're what do we say about yourself. What do you think is right. Do each perspective up. Adele now definitely said both of myself the best. You're the worst greatest advice on. Say that you say the worst to be able to see you. The best back from yes. They normally to beth mind plays tricks. Our mind is now offering in the we have a mining checked with the control it louisville that. Tell us some crazy shit out in the west lake that now he gave a what message meant you have all your fans out to the although mill you got which one you got dan dan you good. Dan's like fluffy had no idea what was going to happen to him today. Had no idea doesn't come here and just talk about the mouse and the movie. Oh lot of watching right now. I got really deep. I'm still wondering how i'm gonna get home. Still drive you Yeah yeah we could find that as far as a message or What was it against live. How do you feel your gratitude about being a you are. It's loving you people kids loving you. You feel some responsibility to live up to foot that yes a responsibility. That's why i'm hesitant to do something like you know the smoke weed and you know in public because people have a certain image Or a certain way that they see what i do and because people you know have kids that wanna come like hey you know can you sit somewhat of a good example you know and so it is a very challenging for me to put myself in certain situations as cool as fun as it is. I take a risk by doing that. I take a risk that people are going to be like you know what. That's not what i signed up for. That's not what i thought. How could he make decisions and choices like that. And so that is hard because when you put yourself in a situation. A certain box people have those expectations. That's why in violence file of a sudden. Start talking about politics. People would i half in also. There's a certain image in a certain you belong on children channel chow Tv ahead. i can't do it my choice award for kids and all that stuff you need to be you need to have the chain crowd you can never lose with. The kids can never lose. You had the temperament to they love All they do is sit down and watch. Youtube analyzed the loves. You thank you but to your point about responsibility. that's why it is hard. Sometimes because people have certain levels of what should be the responsibility in artists. I think people hold us to a different place where it's like a totally different view of the like a curse sir from late. That look totally different. Not good values no poem. This is just the fact that he doesn't my kid is loves them and my kids are great. Kids i know you have good energy out. there is like you had to you. Had to cut cater to the masses and the masses the majority in the majority in this situation kids. There's more kids and adults in this world right. this is this is a pg g verena interviews. Oh okay hold back well. He's got usa. Marcia then and you know it's like people forget you know a regular person. I do cuss. I do have habits. I do you know. Say random things from time to time that might not go over well on stage so what you deliver deliver and in public for gay. Backed up live is what you begging. You love. I love you. That's what my kids love you. Them so bad they had to the field trip today. I couldn't be here ten be You wanna close it out for us man closing thoughts be careful with your life's choices. This is going to be the sound play like thirty years from now or twenty years from now of the day that i die looked good for her tells about life choices. No i think mike would you say is true. What you put out is what you get back on. Track Put up good energy and good energy a come back in a year and asks. Expect things to happen to you if you wanna ask. Would you give all man. That's we go gonna talk like that. I want save my career idea us so the maybe i don't know what you hope you cross that joy might with some Viagra well there you have it guys you guys just watch episode of hot box with tyson. I'm your holding ak years iglesias. You got it gleeful mcleese. And that's it we out. He leafy good morning. Good afternoon at work on the t. Pays nappy boy ready pie. Can the most fun you'll ever listened to why you voting close now. Let's get this straight you're parked at radio is super fun super crazy. It's pretty much the in your face compensation. That's the good thing about us. We don't do interviews plead to conversations all of my calls chill. We drink we play game. We have the song of the week that we have the creative curse word of the week. As long as you're having fun as our guest speaking of gas each week. I'm gonna go through my whole contact down hair. I into the world of music gaming exotic cars tech strippers. Probably doctors probably probably strips that are only striven so they can pay for tuition to the doctor. You never know he'll make you treat while you're here we can play. The t pain's nappy ready. You can see you soon. Hi this is daniel the real gm radio podcast and we are now into the conference finals and it is definitely not the match ups. That people expected with the clippers and suns facing off in the bucks and hawks but this is an exciting opportunity for the nba to develop and showcase some of the exciting young stars in the game. Whether that is devon booker. an trae young Propelling their teams to surprising success or janas onset of kubo trying to add some playoff accolades potentially even a title to his two regular season. 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Magic Mike Check Bonus #80 is on da way....

What Up Patna

13:00 min | 3 months ago

Magic Mike Check Bonus #80 is on da way....

"Took all right folks. Just as we've done in the past big as was sitting on the cord that needed so i never. We're going to show we. We spent like a twenty minute bass my chicken and the mother fucking computer wasn't plugged in. I'm gonna blame the man wherever he's at fucking show. We're going to get started soon. This is just a recap of the mic check. Sled man came in hot. Nick looks like nick. Logan atom from the dope festival squad beat boxing slash upland and a yes came through with a reporter voice of course down beer for everybody and then now we're about to get ready to start to show sled man going to give me my check. Oh hey everybody out there sled man right here in the chair in the doj with the mike my face looking at a bunch of beautiful people right here there are shuffling shuffling shefrin and all those vibe senate offer this summer to get your beatles to get ready got to get it out there in the ocean swimming in the pool and being coup and all that better adam rid iraq five see. We feel the vibes. My name is adam morale some twenty five years old. And i'm coming all the way from hollywood california born and raised in coming coming coming coming to you coming at you coming from hollywood. California where is Is not as dope as being with the partners right chiampou around prolonged trump out. Well wickham popol would upon us be come in full effect the second time but just just as good as the first time and looking forward to the episode coming up right now levels looking good feeling great and can't wait to chose us neck spear for the next partner. Who's it going to be back to you. But i'm a little upset right now. 'cause knicks leaving and nick. Look you wanna say bairo quick. Hey what a time for me to go to work. But i hope these guys put a great show on pre better. Because we're gonna send you fact check when you're at work. I work. go ahead try it. You might have the time. I do normally fights how many men doing i'm anita partner. Bank all my thank checking for me. I'm happy to do so leclerc. It's an honor. It'll be an honor. Everybody's yasmine twenty six from birmingham alabama alabama from every. That's the only movie that is tied. Mean that's how. I think of alabama saying racist wilder right holyfield's from there to yes. Yes yes sir. Famous alabamians everybody go. You will never guess everyone. Who does the number one. yeah jasmine. i wonder No he's actually a stripper. A what's his name. The famous go work. Yes the one that made the movie off over the real cheddington smell download. And he's from this place called remember. 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Kinda Cute  Ep. 14  Paris Hilton Still Loves Juicy, Henry and Michael from GBBO, and Vin Diesels Dad Moves

Curiosity Wins

21:04 min | 2 years ago

Kinda Cute Ep. 14 Paris Hilton Still Loves Juicy, Henry and Michael from GBBO, and Vin Diesels Dad Moves

"It's kind of cute right. Hello and welcome back to Kinda cute if you're new here. Welcome my name's Billy Evan Evan. And on kind of cute we discuss articles from the cut and my general pop culture. Mu Zang's I'm just going to go ahead and plug this all at the beginning. Because I've been forgetting getting but I would love if you subscribe to this. podcast left a five star review. Ideally a written review and just an update from last week. I my hi stickers. They're almost in my Kinda cute stickers and I swear if you leave a written review take a screen shot. Dm Me. I know this sounds like a loss by swear it's really easy. Dm Me where I can send the sticker to screen shot of your review? I will send you a sticker. It's as easy as that and you can find me on Instagram Bailey. Evan B. I. L. E. Y. E. N.. or it Kinda cute podcasts. You can also find me at Bailey oven dot com and Bailey. Evan on Youtube super easy to find Amihai lots of ways to contact me. You can email me if that's easier so I will be waiting for that to send you. You're Kinda cute sicker which is going to be kind of cute I am going to Asheville North Carolina this weekend. And if any of Y'all have any racks you can also slide into my. DM's with that. It's my first time there. My parents France have been before. I'm super excited. I still hope there's some you know fall foliage around I also apologize if I sound like Gall Alam esque this morning I for the first time in recording this podcast in the morning instead of at night. So if you hear gulps today it's coffee and not wine for a change so that's refreshing Last weekend was the weekend. Everyone celebrated Halloween. I went out with my friend. Megan Fort Lauderdale our other friends. Emily drew and it was a good time. I dressed up as the Kylie Jenner Eras. Shad mean I mean. I don't think anyone knew what my costume was except for one nice bartender. who asked me if I was rise and shine and that made my night? That was all eight needed So what did you you guys dress up as happy Halloween. It's hot. It's Halloween today as I am recording. This I also did like a kind of podunk mattie Peres costume last night which I think I'm GONNA in a post instagram but like not my best work the little jewels on the is I kind of struggled with but you know I tried and on another note just really pivot again. This whole intro just been one giant pivot to the next Tomorrow tomorrow the Sheen Dawson Conspiracy Pallet with. Jeffrey Star. COMES OUT For those of you. Who are not familiar Shane? Dawson is a youtuber. Jeffrey Stars ars also Youtuber but also owns a beauty conglomerate basically an empire and he and shame got together and did this collab- on this makeup Palette and I I don't know if I really talked about it a lot on this podcast but I am a huge conspiracy theory fan like I was one of those Seko's when I was younger I would research for hours like whether or not we actually did land on the moon like I like to think everything is not as it seems and you know what guys sometimes. Sometimes it's not so this Palette it has a lot of kind of out there sheets and as a girl who pretty much only owns things that are in the naked palate genre enro- rainbow of eye shadow colours. I'm kind of excited to have a clue that looks like flaming hot cheetos. I don't know if I'm actually gonNA order it but I just wanted to talk about the and if you haven't delved into Shane Dawson's youtube videos yet. I recommend it. He makes very cinematic movies like for Youtube. Especially considering during he doesn't have you know he doesn't have a whole team or money behind me as a cameraman. Who helps him at it? One of my favorites is the Tannock on series. I also love actually actually my probably my favorite is the original. Jeffrey SAR series. And then this newest one that came out about the making of the palate and super cool to see behind the scenes and just how much money is in the beauty industry. I think that's relevant to this. Podcast we talk about beauty a lot and just seeing like the markup and the thought that goes into it from beginning to end. I really enjoyed all right. Done with the intro onto our first article of today by our girl Marie Lodi. It's called you can pry Paris Hilton's velour tracksuits from her cold dead heads now. An interview just came out with The Guardian yesterday Hilton said the following. When I go to a party I love to be glamorous and go all out? I like to Sparkle Oakland feel amazing however my everyday wear is very comfortable. I loved juicy. Couture's Velour tracksuits. I probably own one hundred of them in every color. That's my uniform when I'm I'm chilling at home or going to the beach. Anything that doesn't involve a red carpet again. Mind you that was just published yesterday and I love this. This is bringing coming back. The Comoro Lease Simmons babysat vibes. Juicy couture is still going strong. I as I noted earlier episode. I dressed up my little dog any juicy couture Tori track. Su adorable on attracts us are really frigging comfortable. I totally support her doing this. And can we also ruminate on the fact that she says she owns a hundred of them in every color. I have a feeling that is not an exaggeration. Do you guys realize how much this girl is making from her. Dj Career one of. Oh my saddest moments is when I was in a visa and Beatha and she was performing and I didn't go because how iconic like I just would love to see her. Dj One because the whole spectacle of it. I I really I really teased on the whole Lindsay Lohan. Paris Hilton Kim Kardashian. She income up. You know that pop culture two thousand nine vibe. That was my shit that inspires everything. I do today so bow down to Paris is Hilton. I starting my career and podcasting okay on to the next article are these two British bake off sweeties. Dating Ating Bhai Bridges Bridget. Read now. y'All I don't know if you're into great British bake off like I am but if you're not it is the most wholesome mm show on television now to yet again. Pat Myself on the back for being ahead of the TV trend. I used to watch this before it was on Netflix. I would find like the youtube videos. They were such bad quality was just fan uploads of the show and obviously violated copyright so a lot of times they would get taken down around and I couldn't actually watch the whole season because I would just have to scrounge for like whatever episodes. I could find so great. British bake off being put on. Netflix was really a game changer. Here for me and This past season I really liked a lot of the contestants and two of my favorites were Henry and Michael now. There's a lot of rumors rumors. And even some compelling evidence that two of those to my favorites are dating now. My one theory is that they're completely pulling an Antony Slash JV in on us. You know how they love to play and act like they're dating but they're really not The two men from cry. But you know what either way. I'm I'm living for it. It and Henry is my absolute favorite from the season after he got voted off the next week every one more ties and his honor because he would always wore ties. And if you're if you're really not familiar with the show it's basically a cooking show where each week they're given an assignment like Patisserie and they have three challenges the first one and I forget what they call. It shoe am going blamed. But it's like they make a little thing and then the next one's technical where they're given an assignment they all have to to make the same thing without a lot of instructions and then the third is a showstopper where they go all out and do a huge thing but what separates this from you know food network shows are a lot of other competition shows is the spirit of camaraderie. You'll see almost every episode that the contestants are helping each other. They're they're not cutthroat. Everyone really wants the best for everyone. They have agreed friendship. And that's what I like about. It and I was scared when Mary Berry who used to be the One of the judges stopped doing it. Because she's the best. Mary Berry is a national treasure and she's not even American but she got replaced with prue and I actually liked proved to. She's no Mary Berry but she fills the void that I was scared. I was going to miss okay so so back to Henry and Michael People are really losing their mind over the fact that they could be dating and I okay I unfortunately spoiled the season for myself as I was trying to do some investigative work for you guys. So that's a bummer. Because it it doesn't come out and the US until Friday. And I was just looking at Michael's instagram try to do a deep dive and he's spoiled the show so not great. Wait for me But that's what happens. I guess so the the things that are making people say that they're in a relationship. Nation ship are these instagram photos. That I think were taken by one of the contestants allison and it shows Henry embracing Michael Michael from behind as he's cooking and then there's another picture of Henry Kissing Michael on the cheek There's a tweet from Michael where he's congratulating. Henry's run on the show with saw pepe lyrics. What a man? What a man who had a man who would amalgam May He then Henry tweeted one that says one of the finest men with a with a heart next to it and again I tried to deep dive. I looked on comments Mensah facebook groups. I'm in because other people were very fascinated with this and I could not find anything conclusive. One person thought that Henry is too religious jess to openly gay which Fair I got could be the case. I guess But it seems like he's comfortable with his you know. He picked up from literally kissing Henry on the cheek. So maybe it's unfair to say that he's to religious to embrace his sexuality. I would just like to know if anyone has inside. Scoop gets the bottom of this When I texted my sister about this she was like bit of an age difference Because one of them is twenty one is twenty six. I don't think that's too inappropriate. But then when I think about it I'm six years difference from my sister and it is a little bit of an age difference for sure all right moving on we have another one of the I think about this a lot articles in. We've we've done these before it's when a person from the cut talks about a medium of video something that happened a long time ago that they just can't get out of their head and this week's thinks is Vin diesels. Weird dance to Katy Perry. Now this movie came back in two thousand fourteen. It was a video that then diesel posted onto his facebook page. And he's dancing to Katy Perry's dark horse in the beginning and the beginning looks like you know when you're warming up for a bar class and you have to tiny circles with your arms so it starts out like that. And then it turns progressively more Magic Mike with some weird tongue out moments mance and kind of you know propositioning. The camera and then abruptly switched to weird dad moves and he vacillates between being really close to the camera and then farther away and there's also inexplicably a mike in the background like a Mike on a stand that he occasionally goes and lip syncs into I guess and I have to say is also disconcerted. By how big. He smiled at the Jeffrey Dahmer. Line darkhorse a little creepy In some ways this whole thing reminded me of one of Noah's Antonio's Weird instagram stories. Where he bizarre Cardin says I mean maybe then diesel ran Dan so that oh I totally fucked up that joke? Same even diesel walk so that no one could run anyways It's also weird. Because he chops up parts of the song and then like repeats and then he stitches to surfboard by beyond say and then we get some robotic cheerleader. Cheerleader Penguin moves. And the weirdest part is that in the middle of this Does dancing video. That's over seven minutes long. He takes a break to say say that his film Riddick is number one in the DVD charts and now as the cut notes it says if you watch the whole thing hoping for some sort of conclusion solution there isn't one then diesel told you he loves music and that's all you get seven and a half minutes of VIN diesel loving music. Now I WANNA know if then was on on some drugs was he high and I thought another interesting part of this. This article was that he had sixty three million likes on his facebook pige and he says that facebook used to ask him to come to their office and explain what the fuck he was doing how he had so many fan. It's an he says says facebook really owes me billions of dollars and he attributes this kind of fame two just the fact that he's real with his followers that he was kind of one of the first celebrities to do. I don't know if that's true but overall very interesting very weird I feel bad for this poor man who wrote this article continually thinks about this video because oftentimes times. I would tell you guys to go watch this so you get the full context but I think you can skip this one because it was seven minutes of my life. I can't get back in on a darker note. I warned learned discuss something that I can't stop thinking about. And that is the video of trump and Milania giving out candy at the White House. Now this you have to go watch because there. Is this poor child in a minion costume. It's an inflatable minion costume very cute. But he has a candy bag and he has arms and he's holding holding the candy bag and instead of putting the candy bars in his hand or his bag they put it on this poor child inflatable head and the candy eighty bucks just slide off and onto the ground or into another girl's bag. She comes to she gotTA swoops them up. And it's like a conveyor belt like these kids don't get a chance chance to come back and get more candy. They're just passed on a frequent factory conveyor about and that poor Minya not only trump put the candy on his head Malania put the Katie Gedi on his head to and it is just so socially awkward and weird. I need you guys to watch okay. We have another bridget. Read article and this is from my friend. Liz who alerted me to this and it's called we love and support this grim office worker of the future it says office workers scrolling through twitter on Friday crew. Suddenly alarmed when an article designed to scare them into buying ergonomic furniture began making the rounds life size model shows what office workers might look like in twenty years it said accompanied by a photo of hunched over fake woman named Emma. Emma was the result of a study commissioned by British Office Equipment Company fellows and she has several attributes that are meant to emulate the result of bad posture furniture and hobbits a permanently bent caused by sitting for hours. In bad positions varicose veins veins from poor blood flow a rotund stomach caused by a sedentary position. Dry and red is from long era our staring at a computer screen and other health conditions. Now obviously do we have to acknowledge that this was done by a company who is trying to sell furniture so there's a reason behind their madness but wet. Listen I were commenting on. Was the scary reality of this. PORT EMMA's General atmosphere. I myself have some really obvious means means that I just self tan the shit out of an attempt to cover them. My posture is awful. I have like I can already see. Oh I'm sorry I just cracked my neck just thinking about it but my my name is like any constant kind of hunched over manner. I have like the little on the back that Emma has to stronger degree. I'm poor as hell unless I don't Self Tan myself. I had to get lay sick because my eyes were wreck since age of eighth grade but let me tell you. Five years of staring at a computer screen and legal documents was not doing it any help my stomach is fairly rotund. So you know what I can relate. I'm Marty there honey. I don't need to be fifty to get to your point but as the cut remarks great red nail Polish Emma. It goes with that red. Patch eggs ma on your inner elbow and at least I also keep my nails done minor white So not matching the eggs on my scalp that I have really actually does it. Matches is the Dandruff all my scalp so point. One for me again. y'All like I said I Mari there. I am at Emma's point. Can y'all just spread the word about about the kind of cute podcast so I don't have to stare at legal documents all day. I beg of you save me from this fate and there was a comment on this article that I thought was kind of funny. It says fear mongering at brought to you by British Office Equipment Company so of office workers don't have access to costly Ergonomic equipment. They're trying to scare them by offering a grim depiction. Shit twenty years in the future again. Commoner I I applaud you for maybe having a job where you don't have to sit at a computer all day but I don't think this is a depiction of twenty years in the future. I think it's very much the now all right onto our last article of the day. It just needed one little halloween article to throw in since it is Halloween gene. And this one's called if Elizabeth Holmes accused of yet another crime a black turtlenecks shortage by Amelia Charca. And it says on Monday courts sports writer. Daniel Wolf reported that all unique Lowe's stores within a forty mile radius of his bay area. Zip Code seemed to be sold out of long sleeved black turtlenecks which he needed for his costume. Now the twist is that wolf was trying to dress up as a bumblebee. But the reason supposedly that all the turtlenecks for gone is that everyone in their mother is dressing up his Elizabeth homes. And I don't blame them. It's an easy costume. If I was blonde signed me up and I just love the story of villas with homes. I have been fascinated. I remember my mom coming to me years ago and being like Bailey. There's this company it's called there does it's going to change the world this girl so young. She's she's already billionaire. And now look how the mighty have fallen as we've addressed here for some reason. We Love Scam Story. So people dressing up as this seems really right I would love a picture of someone dressed up as caroline. Calloway Billy McFarland from the fire fest. Fame Elizabeth homes and Adele V.. The altogether like that would be an iconic group photo. Even though as I've already said I don't think Caroline callaway is a scammer. I don't think she belongs in that group but she has a sense of humor humor about the whole thing so why not all right guys. We're onto legit shit or this week. I am so sorry I failed to give you guys eligible shit last week and for that. You're into this week baby. So my first one is pharmacy green clean. The SA- facial cleanser. It's kind of like a bomb consistency. And there's a limited edition Cherry one right now. That smells like Cherry Marzipan. So go out and get that. I highly recommend so what you what's your take just a little bit of the bomb and you rub it on her face dry and it literally melts off your makeup but even if you don't wear makeup even if you're a man I would highly suggest this just really Clinton your face. It's great it makes your face feel clean but not tight have talked about this before on the podcast. I feel like I'm literally like the Apostle for this green clean shit so go out and try yourself some. It smells delightful at has clean good ingredients and it's a great product. I recommend to everyone and everyone who liked borrow some uses. It goes out and buys it because it's not good my second one are these colored drippy candles channels so they look white on the outside but when you burn them they drip all of these different colors and they look so cool when you put them in like

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"This message comes from. Npr sponsor samsung with the samsung galaxy. Z fold three five g. You can schedule at it and build presentations in a snap or take notes with the spn. Five g connection and availability may vary check with carrier. This fall in culture is like no other. some kovin interruptions are over and some are ongoing and that's on top of the significant changes in media habits and industry practices and audience tastes. That have been going on for years but as always we are here to bring you some of the things we're most interested in checking out and talking about this fall whether you read it watch it or listen to it. I we wanna make sure you know about it. I'm stephen thompson. And i'm linda home and today on npr's pop culture happy hour. We're talking about some of the movies. Tv shows albums and books. We are most looking forward to this fall here with me in steven from his home. Studio bunker is glen well of npr's culture desk glenn and also with us of course is our own isha harris. Hey sean linda hello so. I don't have a lot of setup today. We're just going to dive right into some recommendations for this fall. You know what fall is. You know what books are in what. Tv is and what movies are reach. Gonna give to recommendations and glenn. I'm going to start with you. What did you pick or my first pick. Is everybody's talking about jamie. This is a musical coming to amazon prime on september seventeenth. It is the adaptation of a very successful west end musical that was in turn adapted from a british tv documentary about a sixteen year. Old drag queen in england stars. This kid named max harwood who you're going to be hearing a lot from in the coming years now. Okay on the surface. This is queer. Kid comes of age doting mother. Distant father triumphs over homophobia triumphs over bullies has a big moment of self actualization credits and that is a formula It's a formula for a reason because it's a lot of kids lived experience but it is very familiar. The smart thing this movie does as it's not about the kid coming out. He's out from the jump it's about him learning to become a drag queen and by extension him wanting to be the star of the show all the time and treating those around him like they're less than he is which is exactly what the opening number and i think it's fair to say this kick ass opening number called and you don't even know it is all about just fantastic now. I'm not going to say too much about it now because we are hoping to devote an episode to it once it out but for now just know that there's a thread in this thing of a queer kid. Negotiating a place for himself in the world as opposed to just rejecting the world which gives it kind of an extra layer That is everybody's talking about jamie on amazon prime this september seventeenth all right. Thank you very much glen. Well then i've heard about that one. I am eager to see it. Asia you have a pick. Oh wait it's also musical. Oh i was just gonna say music And you know actually kind of love this moment. We are in because we've had so many musicals so many relative to other genres anyway. You had obviously in the heights. Last year we had the problem which was very good and This fall we have diana the musical which is going to be sort of the same way. Hamilton was filmed its theatrical production filmed for streaming. But the thing that. I am most curious about it. Excited to see is tick tick boom which at for those who are not familiar with it. It started off as a one man show by jonathan larson. It's and he's the creator of rent. It came out before rent happened before rent exploded and it semi-autobiographical it's about a man who's about to turn thirty and who's questioning his decision to attempt to become a musical theater composer he feels. He's a failure. There's some of companies on heinz company in there and there's a lot of references in the music to sondheim at who was a sort of a mentor to jonathan larson before he passed away. And i've always had a very big soft spot for this musical. So i'm curious to see how it translates to the screen in part because lemon law miranda heard of him is behind this movie. He's directing it and it stars. Andrew garfield as jonathan. We also have alexandra. Shipp as susan and robin day. His seuss michael. The cast also includes vanessa hudgens. Joshua henry judith. Light bradley whitford like greg ads. So i'm very curious super excited. I hope it's that's tick tick boom and it's going to be in theaters on november twelfth and then streaming on netflix november nineteenth. Thank you very much asia. I have to say you talked about all those musicals. And you forgot to mention that you can now watch a version of cinderella that starts the townspeople all singing rhythm nation. Thank you very much isha stephen thompson. What did you well. I have two challenges in talking about fall music. One is that absolutely every major pop star in the world is releasing an album and two. They haven't announced the release dates yet. So trying to figure out who's putting out an album win. When every week there is a massive. Massive major release is a bit of a challenge. There is a kendrick. Lamar recently dropped a single with baby keen called family ties. He has been kind of portending a new album on instagram. For some time now adele has been hinting at new music for some time. Ciza has been dropping a single here single there. there may be a new ciza. There is for sure gonna be a new abba album. The first aba record in forty years is dropping november fifth. It's called voyage. It is going to accompany a tour of uncanny valley. Virtual abba members matar's. They're calling them when they mess to record the creepy creepy versions of themselves. That form this abitur. They decided to record the first new aba record in forty years. It's called voyage out november fifth in terms of actually playing a song that is out in the world from an album that is presumably dropping. This fall. I'm very very excited to see the return of lizardo lizardo. Put out a wonderful record. A few years ago called because i love you and then really disappeared for a while dropped off twitter kind of went radio silent and dropped a new single with cardi b. called rumors. Let's actually here a little bit of that. So the fall is absolutely festooned with new album releases. Its just going to continue. Probably well into october or in the case of abba november. So that is just a kind of brief overview of the onslaught that awaits us is on what a lot of music to listen. Thank you very much stephen. So here's my first pick. The netflix limited series made is ten episodes long. It is based on stephanie. Lands book made hard work low pay and a mothers will to survive. That's made ma. Id it stars margaret qualley. Who you might know from anything from Once upon a time in hollywood to fosse verdon. She's an interesting young actress. Who's been kind of popping up in various different things for a while. She is the lead here. She is in practically. Every scene of this and sheep plays a young single mother who takes her little daughter to try to get away from her boyfriend. And she's not playing stephanie. Land specifically even though stephanie lands book is a memoir she's playing a different character. It's one of those words kind of based on the ideas that came out of the book so after she leaves the boyfriend she winds up getting into working as a maid. But more than that. What this series is about is about the mechanics of being poor so a lot of what it is concerned with is. What is it like to try to deal with. Different systems of government assistance. What is it like to actually try to use those forms of assistance out in the world. What are the requirements. It sounds like i mean it sounds makes things sound boring when you say like. It's part of. It's about paperwork but part of it is about paperwork. It has a as. I said margaret qualley and she is the real life daughter of andie macdowell. An andie macdowell plays her mother. In this andie mcdowell if you've been watching her has been having a really kind of interesting career progression whereafter this kind of ingenue moment. She now you know she did this. Really cool and interesting appearance in in the second magic mike movie where people were like the and i think i think you'll be interested to see her in this. This also stars a nica. Nonni rose who is good in everything. i think. I'm brushing up against the embargo. But it's a secret whether i liked it still. I'm just going to tell you i. I am interested in seeing how people react to it. It is coming out on october first on net flicks and that is my first pick. Now we go to glen for his second pick. Glenn what is your second pick. A second pick is a film called may day which is coming to theaters. I'm afraid which. But it's coming through theaters october first and i'm just going by the trailer here. I wanna make that clear. I haven't seen it. But i am intrigued. Its debut movie written and directed by karen shinora about a young waitress who escapes from her abusive boss by climbing into a restaurant stove and finds herself on an island. That is home to a group of young women who live on a beached submarine and use the submarines radio to lower world war. Two soldiers to their deaths now look. It's a formula for a reason right now. Critics who sought at sundance are a pretty much down the middle. All of them praised the look And when once you check out the trailer you will to The tone the premise but about half of them said it doesn't answer the questions. It raises which i'm going to guess are many. Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't. I don't know but check out the trailer and tell me you're not intrigued. That his mayday in theaters october. First okay thank you. Very much glen. Well then mayday. October first asia. It looks like you also have a movie up for your second pick. Oh yes i do. So i watched maybe the first seven or eight cycles of america's next top model I was obsessed with it. I loved it. I still quote tyrez saying we're all rooting for you. Do we all that was like my one. My one four way into fashion other than that. I don't know anything about fashion. I don't get fashion world. I think it's cold up more into it. But i don't understand it. But yet i am. Very fascinated by house of gucci is going to be indicators on november twenty fourth. Because you've got lady gaga. You've got adam. Driver do jared leto. Jeremy irons summa. Heck al pacino. This cast now often giant blockbuster casts like this do not necessarily mean that the movie is going to be any good and this movie might not be good. But i'm hoping it'll be at least a very fun mess because i it's it's selling very dramatic story. It's got some based off. The trailer has very ryan murphy. Esque feel to it. And maybe i'm just placing that on him. Because i'm thinking of the jani for saatchi show he did. And then the fact that lady gaga has worked with him but lady. gaga's playing patrizia. Reggiani and adam driver is playing maurizio. Gucci and patrizia reggiani was married to gucci who at the time was like the head of obviously up gucci And she apparently hired someone to kill him. And so it's it's got murder it's got it's got lady gaga doing even more dramatic than we saw her doing a star is born so i'm just really excited to see how fund and messy and perhaps who knows not that great movie will be but it looks fabulous. It sounds loud is in it. It's going to be loud. it's going to have a a kind of a sketchy accent. But i mean this trailer grabbed most people in six words. Those six words being father son on house of gucci. Which sounds like she's a vampire but you know what i'm in the close. It's nothing else. All right fascinating house of gucci november twenty fourth. My second pick is a book. I don't wanna be the one who says that. I am always responsible for bringing up and coming writers previously. Unrecognized undiscovered onto your into onto your radar but there is a guy named. What is the name here. Colson whitehead so far has only two pulitzer prizes for pass novels the nickel boys and the underground railroad and he has a new novel coming out called a harlem shuffle which is coming out soon september fourteenth and i think that it is safe to say there are certain authors who you know that when they put a novel out people are going to have a bunch of interesting conversations about it. This is apparently both a family story. And sort of crime fiction taking place in the new york of the nineteen sixties. I believe one of the reasons i picked. This is that. I don't always believe in just because it's this person it's important because i think that can lead to a little bit of like here's what the cannon is and he here are the insiders and outsiders and all that stuff but here is somebody where it's like. Okay if this is who wrote this then you're going to want to have this on your radar and you're going to want to kind of have that in your in your line of sight so again. September fourteenth harlem shuffle colson. Whitehead going for the The three peat of posts a hat trick pulitzer prizes. So that is my second pick stephen. You're going to bring us home with oh looks like more music in the first segment. I talked about a lot of big big pop releases. This one is as quiet as quiet. Gets if you're like me. The news makes you anxious. The world makes you anxious. There was a record coming out november twelfth. That is engineered to not make you anxious. It is by the english producer. john hopkins. that's john. J o n not to be confused with john's he has made dance records. he has made Kind of atmospheric ambient records. He made one of my favorite albums of the previous decade. A collaboration with singer king creosote called diamond mine He makes wonderful music and he is making a kind of ambient. Classical psychedelic drone. Kind of record called music for psychedelic therapy It is technically. I guess you supposed to take drugs and listen to it. It is the kind of music that to my mind makes drugs. Sort of unnecessary. I'm not a drug guy. But the single that he's released this beautiful kind of head. Clearing piece of music with a recording by the late ramdas called. Sit around the fire. let's hear a little bit quiet. If you truly open your heart is quiet your mind. Open yard okay. So to put it mildly this is not music for glenn's this is this is taking. Its mission of calm very very seriously. It is kind of music designed for meditation. I am anxious person and always look for music. That kind of has this effect. John hopkins is a proven master in this regard and i cannot wait to hear more that is music for psychedelic therapy out november twelfth. All right thank you very much steven johnson. You know glenn is making a face. not for glenn's i've just just agreeing with the stevenson. I like that. It tells you exactly what it is any album whose title is an instruction manual. I think is useful. Yeah absolutely advertising advertising. And i should say also you know. We talked about a bunch of things here. We did find that some of the things that have gotten the most early publicity that we know the most about at this point. We're not as diverse as we wished they were in terms of you know people of color and and in terms of both onscreen and offscreen. So i think you know. Keep your eyes peeled. Were hoping that some of the bigger promotional pushes will come for a more diverse group of things that we've seen so far Also you know. Obviously in general tip of the iceberg right. We only talked about new things. There's plenty coming out this fall. Truthfully this is the first time in a while. I felt like. Oh wow. there's going to be whole lot of stuff so we will be here. Tell us what you are excited to check out. Find us on facebook at facebook. Dot com slash. Pch or tweet us a p. h. When we come back it's going to be time for our favorite segment of this week and every week. What is making us happy this week. So come right back. Support for npr and the following message come from blue air over two decades ago. Blue heiress founders set out to bring the fresh pure swedish air. His family loved into their home by bringing together a team of talented designers and filtration experts who shared his passion for sustainability quality and design. The blue air air. Purifier was born there award. Winning air purifiers combined swedish design with high performance and whisper silent energy efficient operation. Learn more at blue air dot com. This message comes from npr sponsor capital one with no fees or minimums on checking and savings accounts banking with capital. One is the easiest decision kind of like choosing to listen to your favorite song on repeat and with their top rated app. You can deposit checks and transfer money anytime anywhere making capital one and even easier decision. That's banking reimagined. What's in your wallet. Terms apply capital one. Na member fdic. welcome back to pop. Culture happy hour. It's time for our favorite segment of this week in every week. What's making us happy. This week glenn weldon what is making you happy this week. Well you're talked about this. We talked about. Hbo max is the other two back when it was comedy. Central's the other two But it is back now. Second season started recently on. Hbo max and i want to single out episode. Two of season two in which the character of carey played by drew tarver and his new boyfriend. Chess played by gideon. Glick get fooled into thinking that another gay couple played by tuck. Watkins and noah galvin are not what they actually are which is a hot daddy and his cue tw- inc partner but instead a homophobic father and his newly out gay son. Now that if you hear about it is the stuff of farce but this is played so low key so real there. Is this one back and forth in the restaurant between watkins and galvin's couple who have an open arrangement right as opposed to carry and jessica who don't and if anything the thing that is remarkable is how the show kind of passes judgment not on the hook up with the open relationship but on the basic -ness of carry their sanctimoniousness their condescension. It is done so knowing and so confident. It's it's the show working at the top of its game. Doing only what the show could do. Because of its writers are and who who's actors are so that season two episode two of the other two called pat connect with her fans. Second thing that one. It's such a great seem in the restaurant is like. Oh it's so perfect. Well that's tuck. Watkins has been kicking around for a long time. You'd love to see it loved this good right there. Thank you very much glen. well then isha harris. What is making you happy this week. Well i would like to applaud. The criterion channel for you know in the last year or so they've done a really good job of highlighting black filmmakers and black arts onscreen one of them are recent. Collections is centered on josephine baker. The singular the one and only you know obviously she was known for the banana dress and dancing and being ex patriot in france but she was so much more than that and she was so interesting and so they have a collection of four of her films. That you can go watch right now zuzu. They review day review siren of the tropics and princess tam-tam. Now i've only seen one of these films. so far zuzu. And this is It's a french film. And it's about She plays zuzu who is a woman who is hopelessly in love with her childhood companion. Who is whites and they grew up together but he only sees her as a sister. It's not a great movie. But i think there's some interesting things going on when it comes to the way it depicts race in france at the time in the nineteen thirties. And also you get to see a little bit of just what made her such a fun performer. In why people were drawn to her because she has a couple of musical numbers in it. And there's one really fun when especially where she's like dancing in front of this giant screen on a stage. She's dancing with her shadow behind her and she's just very free and an eccentric erratic and i love it so i highly recommend people check it out. I plan to check out the other three movies in there. Because i just find her a really fascinating person and it's great that we have these movies to get a little sense of who she was awesome. Thank you very much. Isha harris size on the criterion channel. Stephen thompson what is making you happy this week. What one of my favorite folksingers a woman named karen dalton who was part of the greenwich village folk scene in the early sixties with people like fred. Neil and bob dylan. Bob dylan described her. As having quote a voice like billie holiday and she plays guitar like jimi read She put out two albums in her lifetime. One in nineteen sixty nine and one thousand nine hundred seventy one and recorded almost nothing else. There are a couple of other archival recordings but she's a very elusive figure. She died in nineteen ninety-three She had a lifetime of substance abuse issues and is kind of this elusive tragic figure in folk music and rolling out this fall. There's going to be a documentary about her. Imagine it's rolling out slowly. But i'm really really looking forward to it called karen dalton in my own time. Now there's not a lot of footage of karen dalton. Unfortunately a lot of archives were destroyed in two thousand eighteen fire. You know you just have these few albums to go on but they piece together apparently in this movie interviews with a lot of her admirers. Nick cave was a huge huge huge fan of hers Her music was absolutely incredible. And i'm so excited about people discovering her. I want to actually play a little bit of one of her songs. You can get a feel for her sound. Let's hear a little bit of in the evening hard. So that's karen dalton if you have not doug into. Her album has two albums one is. It's so hard to tell who's going to love you. The best from nineteen sixty nine and in my own time from nine hundred seventy one. They are spectacular. I hope people check her out. That's karen dalton all right. Thank you very much stephen thompson. Okay so what is making me happy. This week is a documentary that falls into a very a very specific category that i particularly love which the critic alison willmore talked about on twitter as startup. Friday these are your fire festival documentaries. Your we work documentaries and in this case. This is your lula row documentary so we will row if you're not familiar with it as a fashion brand that the sort of shorthand is instagram leggings company. But it's a multilevel marketing company and there is a documentary. That is on amazon called Lula rich and it examines in four parts. How the company was created how. They came up with this model where they would get women. I mean it's very much like mary. Kay or something like that women by a bunch of clothes and then they have parties and sell them and social media has obviously really revolutionized. Mlm's and how they operate and and lula rose still exists so this is not a company that has somehow gone out of you know ceased to exist. But if you're interested in business troubles that snowball. I do recommend that you check out lula rich on amazon prime and that is what is making me happy this week if you links for what we recommended plus some more recommendations subscribe to our newsletter. That's npr dot org slash pop culture newsletter. One last thing before we go we are going to be talking about the sopranos. 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John & Ken Show Hour 3 (06/02)

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John & Ken Show Hour 3 (06/02)

"John and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. pay a reminder that If you wanna be a part of the effort to get rid of the la county district attorney who just talking about getting rid of the la mayor. Eric garcetti sending him to india as ambassador. And i'm only going for main cabin ticket. Oh you looked at prices. Well For the highest first-class is ten thousand dollars. That's a long flight then. They have a secondary first class for four thousand dollars. Once you get him woman has like five stops although we could do a gofundme and probably raised ten thousand renault easily. So we'll hold that out if he takes our offer we'll do a gofundme me and we'll give them a ten thousand dollar first class ticket but you want him gone within days right. Yeah ok p might start on the job tomorrow. Yeah i mean there's there's diplomacy to be to be executed in india. Emergency diplomacy going media if you were also want to be a part of the effort to get rid of the la county district attorney. George gascon go to the website recall. George gascon dot com or use our link if you are in l. a. county registered voter. You can download the petition mail it in. I did sure did you did yours john. Yes okay. I'm fully involved in the battle. One of the great reporters in l. a. television is film malusis fox eleven listener just forwarded me a tweet. He sent out this afternoon. You want to hear this new. La county sheriff releases. New twenty twenty one crime stats for la county i the same time period in twenty twenty homicides up ninety five percent rape of eight percent aggravated assault up. Thirteen percent arson up. Twenty two percent grand theft auto up forty percent. He says the l. a. sheriff's department will start processing more concealed weapon permits due to quote less cops more crooks less consequences de that's the quote from the waiver. I'm not a gun guy. But i think people arm themselves because between garcetti michael moore the police chief gascon. We've been abandoned now. So if they want the wild west. I guess that's the way it's gonna be it's every man for himself you wanna emptied the prisons and jails and now you have. Da not gonna send anybody to the prisons and jails and is looking to release inmates in the prison. Jails already from what newsome's been doing on a statewide basis. You're right but by the way people have a year ago at fake phony fraud. Garcetti was taking a knee with black. Lives matter Oh yeah you know today. They announced the new budget funding up three percent for the police. Now oh i guess that's ran. Its course no eighty take a knee during the press conference today either like this additional tweet. Sheriff said the la county sheriff's department will not move to a shall issue standard where quote anyone who can fog amirah gets concealed weapon but they will be increasing staffing to process good. 'cause concealed weapon permits in recognition of increasing dangerous to the public. Well this this is the way to stick it to all these Gun control wieners Since gun control wieners. Also want to de-fund the police then It's it's probably time to arm yourself. I'm serious because the police aren't even gonna show up. They don't show up anymore. They don't prosecute guess cones not going to prosecute these people right and they do prosecute they may not go to jail at all or if they go it'll be six months and and gas release them. I what's the point is when the bad guy comes to your house. It's either you or him. It's the way that's the way the world is now or you could change the way your vote. It seems like it'd be easier to change the way you vote as opposed to going out and getting a gun and having loaded gun in your house but you know what. Nobody seems to get that california's one of the states where it's pretty hard. It varies around the state to get what's called the cw concealed carry permit. It's pretty hard to get. Some states are obviously more lenient. Doing that california's a tougher place. But the sheriff. But sharon making a stand against the board of supervisors against the da. He's really on his territory. This vegan the waiver. I know there's people. When he got elected i was always worried about all the sanctuary stuff but yeah the sanctuaries early autos and now the right road because you know it's about public safety and god help us if the da's not going to be on the side of the victims you gotta have somebody step up waves. Sheriff that's fine this like to ask the guess cone crowd. Now that we've got We've got murders up ninety five percent and car theft up forty percent. Would you still vote for guests. Going again the problem would when the crime stats jump. And then the prosecutor doesn't do anything about him you just going to have more of these crime stats because the the criminals know this stuff that there's no consequence. Can you imagine anarchy if these guys ran on what they really were going to do. Magic mike bond and ran a few years ago by the end of my term in office will have thousands of people living in the streets defecating urinating vomiting living intense running around naked stabbing people burning homes down. I promise if i'm elected that's what venezuela look like with any of those left wieners have voted for. Maybe they would have. I don't know. I doubt it all right when we come back. We'll talk about the vagrants Sad story out of venice channel seven went and talked to some people including a grandmother. Who said it's just not safer grandkids to come visit her anymore in that beach town. More coming up. John and ken show john. Ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Well nowhere in recent years. Has the bank. Problem in. Worse outside of skid row in downtown. La which nobody really cares about it anymore. Then the neighborhood of venice on l. a.'s. Westside may brought us a lot of tv station coverage here because it's sweeps and look for stories like this. I don't want to pick on them. Because i'm glad they're doing the stories. Here's the latest chapter from channel. Seven and reporter josh haskell. It's not safe anymore and i. My grandkids who i adore are afraid to come and visit me. Do you understand that. That is hell for me. It emotional plea for the city of los angeles to address the homeless crisis from venice resident of forty five years ago. Walk down to that water every day. And i have for over forty years and you know what. It's scary to me now. I don't think it's fair. please please please. We do not want ten people living here. It's gotta stop. That video has now gone. Viral and speaks to what venice residents have been experiencing not just on the venice beach boardwalk but all over the community. My stress level is through the roof a macaire caretaker for my mom and we were locked inside. Venice resident cristina. T says her niece nephew can't visit either because it's too dangerous. She lives near this. Growing encampment on hampton drive and on third avenue off sunset avenue stabbings shootings multiple times multiple fires. All of this happening within the venice enforcement zone just blocks from the bridge home facility that christina t says his been mismanaged by the city. There is only one city operated bridge home facility for the homeless and all events the pacific sunset facility which opened in twenty twenty has capacity for one hundred adults and fifty four youth. But only now is it full capacity because of the pandemic in a statement council member. Mike bond and called the situation unacceptable in share that earlier this month we converted a motel near lax into homeless housing and we are opening another converted motel in venison. A few weeks new funds proposed last month by governor. Newsom mayor garcetti in their draft budgets. Offer new hope for delivering solutions at scale. And i wanna put those dollars to work in venice. He said he's going to send outreach in. The outreach hasn't come. He says that sanitation is gonna come and then he doesn't have the sanitation residents are fed up and it's not hard to tell what from. Abc seven josh haskell. Not to pick on any reporter individually but this is the problem with television reporters and radio and news and internet and everything what they do is they go to the woman who's clearly upset and she's telling the truth. The place has gone to hell. She doesn't want grandkids coming. Then they go for a statement you know. Let's have a balanced story. And let's go to mike bond to some spokes whole writes up a fake press release claiming this that and the other thing. Any either wildly exaggerated or an outright lie. Or it's stuff that's never going to be done or if it's done it's going to be really ineffective and the reporter never goes through all the other fake press releases all the other announcements. That bonded made all the promises that never came through. He put up a bridge home and promised that they're going to have lots of security and they're working to tolerate any new homeless living in the in the neighborhood and he'd lied about that. Where is the news report on. All the lies that bonds told about how he was going to handle the homeless and venice. Why do no news. Reporters or simon editors news directors producers. Think that's important to the public. Why it's all. I hear people talking about again. Take a break from the woke news for five minutes and most people aren't interested in that most people are interested in the story. I just laid out believe me. They are so why not do that. Won't you document once and for all every single stink and broken promise in lie that bond told every single thing that didn't work out the way said it would. What do that you'll people who watch what's worse about this is. It's the usual approach. That i think is wrong. Not only what baden spokes whole had to say that story which you just talked about you know we put up a little hotel robin carey in the columnist for the el segundo times. Who's been a frequent punching bag here. John and ken show also posted up column early this morning about venice and her approach is the same as barnes bad approach after mentioning that there may be two thousand homeless people in three square miles. She talks about them putting up an apartment building going to house. One hundred forty people again drop in the bucket but you cannot approach this problem that way you cannot say because two thousand people have decided to hang out in venice and squat on the boardwalk. They're entitled to housing. That is dead wrong. It's even dangerous because you're going to bring more people who will be curious about what you're offering you're just gonna make you're going to compound the problem. No one's entitled to housing just because they hang out in a neighborhood and they must they squat. Suddenly we have to build them and again. We talked about this. The other tank tents no good anymore temporary shelters no good that bridge housing. No they want what she's talking about in this article like a real digital apartment building built. We are permanent housing. we're entitled. that's what the activists this come from. What the activists said yesterday. They don't wanna tent. They don't wanna shelter abed. Nope nope they want what they call. Permanent housing jospin means not only the apartment but the services with and they want it probably want the meals to health care and they want beach housing. We do not. Oh anybody life and not they wanna view i. I can't believe that it's gone down this road but i'm hearing this over and over again response where we're putting up this and we're building this. We don't why do we do that. They're coming from out of state out of the city. They're going to the beach like most people would what we tell. The forty became the big welfare state. You know again. We have ten percent or twelve percent of the population. We have like a third of the nation's wealth people become aware of this. They're going to come at us and given out homeless. Let's go and homes near the beach. Okay because she mentioned in his story that this housing project they're going to build is right near the beach. The blitzer buns real motivation here. His real motivation is to give out these contracts to who he must know. None of this works and it's gonna make it worse. Anybody who can. Who can you know. Fog a mirror as a sheriff in a waiver would say no said this is gonna make it worse and there's will never be enough money to satisfy seventy thousand homeless people but what is bonded. Get out of it. Contractor buddies are going to send him money to his campaign money to his fake nonprofits. Maybe money under the table. You got to all about feeding his future ambitions. I think it's all about making money right. I think this is a racket. It is a racket for the politicians for the nonprofits for the contractors. It's a racket. They take billions of dollars of tax money and they circulated around one another and they reinforce one another. That's the only reason they're doing this. They don't care none of them want to solve homelessness. they don't even try everything they do makes it worse. How many years you have to watch this for you realize what what the story is. The story is this is profitable for all them and there is no greater desire other than sex baby then greed the desire for money power. It's one of the seven deadly sins for reason and yeah. It's the greed. It's the greed of of all parties to keep this thing going keep an and the thing is. How do you make the sale to the taxpayers. Make him feel guilty lecture them. Tell them how privilege they are on. The politicians on a columnist at the time robin kerry and who takes the same position which is what we owe them housing. We just have to build more low income beachfront housing. Because they're here it's our obligation and house them is not the also the also gonna time territory board said that to remember. We read that editorial closing comment that your capitalistic system built. This is there value these people because they've been displaced because they're a bunch of socialist communist types it they were known years ago as useful idiots now. And that's what robert ebb carey and the la times board is a bunch a useful idiots for the establishment who hiding behind them that kind of communism and socialism it just breeds and uninspired lazy public. Because the government's gonna take care of everything for me you don't get innovation advancements in so many different fields you just don't inspire people look what happened. Competition inspires people. Look what happens now that we're sending out all these free money that biden's printing what have you have eight million jobs in. No takers ride. I saw this morning on a business channel. A report from a restaurant chicago chatterbox restaurant husband and wife. Frantic he he. He was showing that the price of meat had gone up. Forty pounds of chicken had gone up from seventy eight dollars to one hundred and three dollars a month at the price plastics. All the plastic utensils and containers had gone from thirty eight dollars. Seven eight dollars more than doubled. He can't get anybody to fill any of the positions that the restaurants because the government is handing out so much money. He says it's going up ten percent of month the supplies the meet the plastics. He and his wife doing everything seating all the customers. He's working in the kitchen. He's washing the dishes. Nobody wants job because the federal government flooded the world with money with with extra unemployment. Yeah right printed. Money might point that leads people become lazy and uninspired so we got more coming up john and ken. Kfi john and ken show ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app again with the toll. The mois line is pretty wide open. There were available slots record-low collared shirts for you. Just call them enlightened philosophers a couple of weeks ago and they are well. There's not enough of them. So okay callers or enlightened philosopher late in the week we'll take anything that's wednesday but sure one eight seven seven voiced eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six for your messages and you might hear yourself friday during the five o'clock. I'm not done with this homeless thing. I'm really fired up because my approach to this is not completely different than yours. You go down. The route of people lining their pockets Follow the money. that's generally johns. i look just. As a complete philosophical difference. I have with writers for the el segundo times who aren't lining the pockets because they're not involved with developers and our politicians but this idea that we have an obligation to house people because they decided to plunk down in the neighborhood. You can't do that and beyond that even if you do find them permanent housing. You've cured the real problems. You have uncured the reasons that beyond the housing shortage there homeless because people are priced out of housing cope. They find ways they move or are they stay with somebody. They rent with three roommates. They do what they have to go. Live at home with mom and dad. They don't plunk down in a tent on the street or on the beach or somewhere in the park. They don't do that. Which means they have dysfunctions and just because you build it in an apartment doesn't mean you've cured those dysfunctions. I mean that made the speech over and over again but it's really frustrating to me this crowd that just thinks then going to do is put in an apartment building problem solved in they go and then of course you have the to the next step. Are you going to have rules. You're not gonna have rules and if you're gonna have rules some of them are going to say not going in there at. It's prison camp but if you don't have rules can become a disgusting mass in because you know if you put a building of homeless people with dysfunctions in it the worst ones will influence the ones that are kind of on the edge and maybe not so tempted by the drugs and the drinking but the worst ones influence their behavior. You'll have a mess. You'll have a building that is disgusting and overrun with people. Is somebody problems. That's why this is not the do they have apart from the corrupt people that i talked about the people who are not making money on this. Why do they the belief systems they do and you notice that goes back to always talked about. They don't like capitalism. Well don't like america. They blame it for a lot of problems. It's racist sets. Its boxed out too many pieces from opportunity. We have to fix that as long as you could undermine the civilization punish the people who are profiting from capitalism you know take away their sense of security and freedom take away their money then it really doesn't matter if you know the housing Building all that housing works out or not is the purpose was to punish the people who succeed. It's to punish them by taking away their peace and security by taking away their success taking away their profit that's rapids of it if it doesn't work out all these programs at buildings that's not the point. That's not why they're motivated by. I think it's always important not to get caught up in the cliches. The cheap cliches the way. The media frames debates. But we look at the motivation. You notice nobody at the la times ever has to answer anyone right. They can pontificate in a column and they're never challenged. They never had others to the. But i mean a real dialogue a real back and forth. Yes they wouldn't do that you know. We think they'd ever come on here. And i explain how this is gonna work out building housing peach when you have people coming by by the thousands from all over the country building a building without one hundred and forty units hundred forty units. We've got seventy thousand people in the county. We got two thousand alone in venice missing out right. So that only takes care of five percent of the venice issue so it's easy to write a column extolling hundred forty unit apartment. Wow that's a really cool column but now you have another what eighteen hundred sixty justin venice and there's more every day. So how do you do this. Where do you do you build the apartment buildings to the sky and this takes years and years to build meantime more and more people are coming now. You're rewarding people for not doing nothing we've seen how human beings react to free money. They don't work. That's what's happening this year that you just mentioned before the federal unemployment incentive has got people deciding not to reenter the job market is eight million jobs going unfilled woman the other day who runs a resort on the east coast. She's pleading and begging. She cannot find help and the news reporter. Who did this story said. There are several factors involved. What is childcare issues. When another course the federal extra money. No it's not because you practically at full employment fifteen months ago before the pandemic they figured out childcare issues dead. Yeah there's no that seemed that's woke reporter or lazy stupid wide. You know again. They're looking for the other side of the story. What do critics say people people make up stuff. And then the reporter's use it as a legitimate balance to the story now. It's not again if you have a dialogue with the poor first thing you'd say is how come they didn't have childcare issues Last march we had three percent unemployment. Well we're going to be talking about housing next hour. And if you've listened to the john. And ken show for some time. You know about the effort in sacramento to pass bills to jam in more apartment buildings in neighborhoods. What will be talking about after five o'clock is another strategy. The pandemic has made it worse for shopping malls and shopping centers so never legislators in sacramento or eyeing the idea of converting those into affordable housing. And what they need to do if they're to do. This is override local politicians jurisdiction over exactly what neighborhoods or night ally rules day believe sipe ability noticed they believe in a central government or one entity. Of course everything right down to your local block. They'll decide what kind of buildings are built on your block whether it's going to be apartment or commercial or single family homes. It's going to be up. To the sacramento crat would be talking to a torrent city councilman coming up after the news. Mike griffiths and he's part of california cities for local control. You can guess already doesn't like this idea that sacramento is going to dictate the rules coming up next johnny. Sorry five o'clock. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. You know. sometimes you can't get a word to come out. That's in your brain searching. Zoning was the word. I was looking for building rules right zoning when it comes to what can be built in certain neighborhoods of town. That's be talking about. Next hour. With ed torrance city councilman by the name of mike reference and founder of california cities for local control. We still have this sacramento group that wants to take over jurisdiction over zoning and allow as you've heard in the past apartment buildings in single family home neighborhoods and this idea which was to take malls. It had been struggling and shopping. Centers have been struggling and convert them into housing and they would just override the local zoning power of the local governments. One of these stories has come up again. A gang member double murderer convicted in the shooting and killing of two teenagers in a party in l. a. Back in one thousand nine hundred eight is going to be released from san quentin. His name is howard elwyn jones. The shooting happened back in december. One thousand nine hundred eighty. He killed an eighteen year old by the name of chris baker and another even younger person in rowland heights. This is one of these stories where this guy who apparently was just our short of his eighteenth birthday which plays a big factor in this. Because you know how people feel especially. I guess if you haven't if you haven't turned into your twenties yet your brain's not mature. We can forgive anything you've done including the brutal double murder of a couple of young people one of those stories where he goes to a party it turns out one kid was wearing a red santa hat so this gang member thought it was a rival gang and he shot him. And the thing you've got to know about. This is george gaskell and the la county. Da would not allow any prosecutors to attend these hearings to oppose this man's release. So what year did he do this. Killing eighty eight eighty eight so That's thirty three years ago right. So he's fifty these fifty years old and apparently family member that's young to be out. Guys chartered very upset. They they said that they wrote the newsom. They never heard back all. They got a letter from the department of corrections that this guy is about to be released. Yeah like newsom cares. I know i. I'm sitting here waiting. What is everybody going to get it. None of these people care they don't care and we. We got two governors. You've got involved. This guy got forty five years to life for the two murders. Jerry brown signed a bill. Sp to sixty back in two thousand thirteen which made him eligible for parole much. Sooner and i think that deals with crimes by people under the age of eighteen he was probably tried as an adult but remember they jigger the laws. Yeah so we can go back and take a look at those cases again and if they're under eighteen i don't care if they killed two people who they deserve a chance at freedom and now he's going to get it. Yeah the the. The thing is is arbitrary. I mean actually. Your brain doesn't change as a man sometimes till you're twenty seven right so that's what i'm waiting for gas going to use that as an excuse because you can. That's that's science. That's accepted science. That your impulse control doesn't fully develop until your late twenties. Never marry a guy younger twenty seven just as general range but yeah i mean. Obviously there's a lot of exceptions but even most seventeen years obviously don't kill so it's not about the age. It's about their inherent evil. That's what governs this. And we have somebody who's a psychopath that ever changes you know if this guy is a psychopath. Seventeen he's still psychopathic fifty. Because that's brain chemistry. That's organic brain chemistry. That is impossible to change now. Gas owns office only responds to this was the usual. But you just explained when you're under eighteen. Year reign is not fully formed. He's definitely a changed person. That's what they've decided san quentin. He deserves his freedom but again. Another guy who doesn't actually have to defend his his beliefs in any kind of conversation. Guests gone is like an alley times columnist. They could you say things just pontificate. Nothing ever gets challenged. You can break apart gascons logic or an l. a. times writers logic in about three minutes but they're never they don't. They don't expose themselves did that situation. They can make money just us selling a view selling a hot. Take all right. When we come back we're going to be talking about Sacramento continue to float bills to try to take control from your local city council and other town officials over zoning so that they could figure out a way to cram more people into your neighborhood coming up next. John and ken show debra mark has news. Kfi am six forty.

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Interview  with Elaine Mongeon and Glen Zipper

Read Between the Lines

30:39 min | 1 year ago

Interview with Elaine Mongeon and Glen Zipper

"Welcome to read between the lines a book podcast. I. Am your host Molly Southgate today I'm interviewing. You Lehman Gin and Zipper. Hi Guys. How're you doing today? We're doing great. How are you? I'm doing pretty well. All right. So can you tell me about your book? I've been. Well devastation glasses, a multi Pov story So we get to spend time in the heads of mount more than one character and We have our protagonist vivid jd who are really trying to succeed under the weight long shadows of their war hero currence. and. Then we have Nicholas and we have lico who are also telling a story from their Glenn do you WanNa talk a little bit about? The. Plot of the book. Well taking picking up from where you left off you know we have our main characters jd embiid or what you would characterize your prototypical protagonist driving the story board Nicholas Humanities more besides intentions motivations or shrouded mystery, and he's also struggling with terrifying personal questions about his own identity which I think. A lot of people including myself myself can identify. and. They go and using it exceedingly intelligent character wears the scarlet letter being son that most of man that most people view as trader. So while these characters are quite different from one another in the way they processed the world around them they all share one commonality. They must battle challenges beyond their control that are not of their own making and the other characters well course but those we spent them, we spent a good amount of time with them too, but we don't get inside their heads and almost all of these characters share that common burden as well. That sounds so cool. Yeah everybody. Go read this book I started reading it and it was amazing. Okay. So you guys have worked a lot in film right? Could you talk a little bit about that? Yeah. On I've been producing films for over ten years. Now, almost all of the documentaries and types of documentaries music documentaries political documentaries verite documentaries were following stories in real time about. People in real situations that aren't extraordinary in any way it's not like they're rockstars or They're politicians. They're human beings going through challenges in a great example of film like that is undefeated, which was the story of a High School football team in Memphis that we were fortunate enough to win an academy award making about golly about eight years ago now and probably one of the. Most. Popular Things I've worked on TV series called dogs. So even tell stories about animals in people's relationships with animals in how they both together to make each other's lives that much better in shows on on Netflix. Will be having a second season of that one soon. That is so cool. I'm totally going to watch that one. All Right Elaine. What about you? I GonNa the Industry for quite a bit of time I started as an assistant to Arnold, Coppleson who was a big producer best known for movies like platoon and the fugitive seven although I didn't work on any of those movies those were before my time and then I worked on the West Wing as sent to Alex grades who was directing executive producer on show and that was quite an amazing experience and then I went on to work with the creative team of Steven Soderbergh and Greg Jacobs starting with the movie, the informant. Greg's assistant for many years on a lot of movies including contagion actually and the first Magic Mike and then i. became an associate producer on Magic Mike. Xl and Amazon series called Red Oaks. And and then after working with them actually while working with them, I was accepted into the Warner Brothers emerging film directors workshop in which five filmmakers were chosen from five thousand applicants to direct a short film with Warner Brothers and directed short film called Good Morning Gland collaborated with me on that as creative producer, and we worked we we actually created storing together and then last year we made a short film called. Swipe. To Death, which was for Hulu end the Sundance to where they selected filmmakers and invited them to make short films to be and their Hulu bean competition and. I wrote directed and produced an Glenn wrote and produced and we We actually won the grand prize. So that was pretty great. That sounds like a lot of Work Lynn I'm just tired living. Off I'm like Oh my gosh. This is so cool. I'm freaking out over here So, did you guys I meet on that short film for Warner Brothers? Now, we actually met quite a long time ago We we actually met on a dating APP, believe it or not, and we're in a relationship for eight years and within that relationship that's where the concept of devastation class was born actually. That is so cool. So how did you decide that you wanted to together? Just. I didn't really want to win a lane that you break up with me. Right with her so I guess. Choice has had this idea in my head of how I wanted to tell the story and Elaine's it. nope. You're going to with way and I said Okay Why don't you give for the real answer is. Of course. Well Glenn, I immediately bonded on our first date actually We both discovered that we were big fans of all things rendre specifically science fiction and on our very first date we binged battle star. GALACTICA. The Ron. Moore version. And several episodes and facts and. We just started kind of spitballing and thinking about what will what if we told a space stories set in? Say a space story. With teenagers in space and that sort of started brewing. Another idea we Kinda very soon after we started dating, we started talking about collaborating on something because we were both such fans of of Scifi. That is so cool. So how did your collaboration Brazos look like? What was that? We some Ryder right partners will sit down at a table just bouncing off us off each other all day long and have that sort of incremental back-and-forth. Of our process involved one of us going away writing chapter from beginning to end and then sending across. Wire to the other and so if Elaine wrote a chapter for she'd sent to me, I'd go through it. I made my changes I think my suggestions make tweaks back to her and vice versa first and she'd do the same thing and that sort of given that strategy for collaboration allowed for a lot of freedom. because if we were sitting there going line by line, there's not a lot of room for ideation is not a lot of room for you to go off on created detour as sometimes going off those detours are the most productive things in Italian. Have those happy accidents and if you have someone checking you. Sentence by sentence, paragraph-by-paragraph paragraph is much less like those happy accidents will happen. So we found that process to be the best for us in the most additive. So, right and do you mind if I add that? Not, yet keep going. Okay. I would like to add that you know in are working together though it you know a lot of writing is the ideation and We did spend a lot of time talking about the book and talking about the characters what makes them tick in talking plot and you know we lived together for four years so a lot of our time spent together was. Getting excited about new concepts that we could include in the book and New Characters and where those characters might go on their journeys. So, you guys mentioned a lot of happy accidents could do any specific the that you could sight. Yeah I'm sure Had A company a half coffey usually takes me three cups of coffee to access memories that are longer older than six months old but I think probably something I'm not sure I would it might be you might call it a happy accident. You might not something that she and I were talking about earlier today, which was the book actually started out as a third person book where the the events in the action of the book being related to readers through the quote Unquote Voice of God. And Lane. At some point. Started experimenting with the idea of what if we told the story through the perspective of individual characters. So multi character first person telling and I thought it was sort of a you know a momentary no. Movement of of her just. Throwing, something against the wall I never really took it seriously, and then as she started to. Clearly take it more seriously, quite resistant about it. I wanted to keep a book in third person. IS JUST A in my mind allowed for more freedom. In telling parallel stories that were going on different places in the ship in different places in the universe at the same time as opposed to being restricted to the head or one person and eventually, Lamy so persistent about it I said fine. Why don't you go away write three chapters in the in the first person it's not going to be good. You'll see you're gonna I'm telling you what's going to happen right now. You can sentence me, I'M GONNA. Read it I'm GonNa, tell you it's not good and then we can go back to renting thing in the third person she was basically like fine. was. Okay, here we go and I was hoping she'd never come back with the the first person version of it but of course, she did because she's Elaine and she's very persistent and when she mind to something, she always does it end. So she sent me a few chapters religion in the first person I started reading it like angry like Oh. Sure. I wasn't GonNa like it was like this is going to be this. This actually isn't This is actually much better. And so I had to go back to lame with my tail between my legs and say, you're right we writing this book in the first person. On that was pretty early on in the process but nevertheless, Blaine hadn't stumbled across the idea of writing the book in the first person we probably wouldn't have about today. So what would you say like some of the differences are between at first person and writing in third person like what? Like I I is much more intimate like intimate that sort of thing. Exactly. It's about stakes. I think any good story whether it's a documentary whether descriptive over to book the on the same formula if they work, which are characters that you're invested in were going on a journey with steaks and if you're in somebody's head. It's so much easier to invest yourself in their character because he your understanding their hopes, their dreams, their fears. Their insecurities. And we had all those same qualities in herself. So it were recognizing parts of ourselves in the characters were reading about comes much more. Easy for us to invest ourselves relate to them, and then in terms of stakes. How better of a way to really appreciate a case of a story? Than, being. Ahead. Of someone. Understanding what it means to them if they're gonNA live or die or if they're gonNA, make choice a or choice day and by being inside the head of these characters as opposed to being removed from them and having this omniscient omnipresent voice telling you everything we think definitely lent itself. To investing readers in those characters and presenting the stakes a much more clear tangible way. Okay. So has your work in film influenced your writing. Do you WANNA go first lane. Sure. You know I think, fat. Working in film and Television of course, you know you're caught it's where the business storytelling and I think that. In a Lotta ways, you know what's interesting about devastation classes that actually started out as a TV, show idea where we had written a few scripts in this world and then and then we changed it to a novel actually. But because of our love of film and series we kind that's where we kind of started. So with that in mind you know we were able to Expand the world and expand the characters journeys beyond you know what a normal film or series would would limit us to you know I think that the clear difference that we always talk about is that in film television, you know it's village that It literally takes village to create film and TV shows aunt young directors and writers and producers and editors, and you know gaffer's grabs, and if all these people that are bringing their own you know everybody is in support of one goal but definitely working. Together. But also bringing their own vision to the project whereas you know with a book, it's basically just us and at some point, the editor and so there's actually a lot more freedom in writing a book because there are kind of no limits. No rules the other part. That's really kind of important pieces cloudy I in our experience with film and Television you know everything. Unfortunately you know everything comes down money like you're you're limited by what a budget is telling you. You can make something for a often times so all the time but sometimes, you have less money than ten others and with a book, you know it's literally us in our imaginations. As I would I would add the only it to that is sort of the way we tell a story and that for me was definitely influenced by the patterns that have been ingrained made for making films and we learned making films over all these years is that Really do have to have. A payoff almost every six minutes it's literally that scientific like if you. Go longer than six minutes with. Something to the your audience if we're talking about film start to get bored this. All right what's happening next? What give me something in once you give them that moment something that excites them that puts them at the front of the edge of their seat. Then you by about another six minutes trust and they're like, all right. If you'd have to give us some more information for us to understand this story, you've got six minutes but the under six minutes we want to be excited again or we WANNA laugh again. Or we want to cry again and we definitely brought that that those lessons to bear on the book like any book and others in the early stages. The early chapters the book we have to set up the world once the story really gets going and once the crisis begins Israeli at the center of the book we we worked really hard to make sure that you didn't have to go very few pages before the next payoff came where you were sweating you were scared or you were crying or you were laughing. So. Do you guys think that you will write more books together? Will we aren't this is a trilogy. So we're going to be writing three of these books Maury writing the second one and plenty of other things that we intend to collaborate on the feet on in the future but the books are definitely our priority. So I've another question about The cleberation part of it. So when you working on writing from each character's perspective, did you divide it up? So like let's say a lane wrote live and you wrote J. D. or something like that. No. Actually surprisingly enough but I will say this you know. Like any. I think any writer abused parts of themselves, characters that they right And I certainly would identify more with a character like J. D., I, think I think lane would identify more with the character like biff and so while neither of them is a is A. Reflection of either of us. in any accurate, Sanderson? Sure. Those characters have like all the best qualities that we seeing ourselves and a lot more that we'd like to have it ourselves but don't have and they probably don't possess many of the negative qualities that either of us have. But there definitely are echoes of our personalities in each of those characters for me jd for for. Lane bid and so when we would have a conflict about a character or choice, a character would made would make I think although this was never a formal understanding between either US I think that in operation I sort of had veto or casting vote to a decision that jd might make and Elaine had more veto her casting vote on a decision of might make. Okay Elaine. Did you have anything to add to that? Now he nailed it on the head. Yeah. Thank you. So like did you guys Out All of the books or Anything like that. Did I have our first outline would color coded outline that was taped to a wall in her house for years. Now it's drawer and his. Crazy a look adding a wild is word started in it's actually pretty accurate. You know a lot of times you. Come up with a plan but you know do you want hear God laughed helm your plans right but we we. We definitely adhered to the original concept that we settled on pretty to the ladder and then as it relates to. Books too in three. We do have the mapped out not as grandly. We did book one. We know exactly where the story's going and when we sold the book, we had to present to our publisher where the story would be going to make sure they were excited about it and thankfully they were. So, do you guys have to be in specific environments to write? You know for me I generally need I like writing on my computer I. Know a lot of writers prefer Longhand but I type A lot faster than I than I. Handwrite and also when I handwrite. If doing it quickly and literally can't read whatever. So. I like to have my setup I have a pretty extensive setup where. I have neck problems. So I have like a pretty comfortable ergonomics setup where got two screens and detached keyboard in. That's where I'm I have a beautiful I have a really nice window good lay and you know so I like having I like being comfortable when I'm doing it but also in my specific spot but there are I also. got a lot of good writing done main. A friend of mine has a home there and and I go. Maybe, once a year to spend a little bit of time with them and this past winter they gave me the opportunity to work out of her office. So I had my own office within her office unit and I would go every single day, which was really incredible to just have a dedicated space for writing I. Wish I were the typewriter where it could just like grab my laptop and right anywhere but I typically need to have privacy and and quiet or a place where I can listen to music. You, said, he listened to music. Do you listen to like instrumental stuff for what do you usually listen to when you? Right? It's definitely instrumental stuff and sometimes I don't. oftentimes, I will just want to be completely quiet A lot of times I'm listening to either classical or a movie scores to kind of get the the inspiration flowing I can't if there's I can't right of there's if there are lyrics. Oh Yeah I definitely understand that. So Glenn what you. I think I three distinct memories of. Writing Devastation classes three distinct environment site were most productive for me I first started writing Mike. Countries into the book I was I actually. got a membership to like one of these writing pod like locations out in Los Angeles where you basically pay a membership fee and you get like a code sue like an offer store and you show up in, it's like this. The communal space were all these writers writing together not like literally together on one project but like you're it's almost like being in a library but everyone in that library, they're writing a book or a screenplay or poetry? And I would hop on my motorcycle and I would ride to this place and get my creative juices flowing half of cycle jump in and I would stay there to like. Middle of the night like two or three in the morning and just something about the energy of that space with all these other writers around me that got my Just. Really help get in the zone being within that energy of that concentrated. Crave energy being around other writers in watching them right as I was trying to write weirdly another place that I got a lot of writing done was planes, which obviously is not something that I could do for to because we're not flying any anytime soon but you know at working on films I was constantly traveling all over the world and being stuck in a little tube for six hours at a time it's really conducive to tuning out all other distractions and being able to write and then the other last place. which is the probably surprising sitting at the kitchen table is being in my comfort zone and got a lot of running now as well. I find the plane thing. So interesting. So when you were on it, would you use a laptop or right longhand? A laptop cramped in, know against the window to take the window seat because they didn't have to be interrupted every time someone wanted to go to the bathroom when you're writing, you get in the zone. That's the place he wanna be where like you're not thinking of anything other than writing and it just pouring out of your brain onto your into fingertips in onto the keyboard onto the screen whereas you know if you're sitting on the aisle seat, someone says, excuse me get up you know something that simple could interrupt you being in the zone and you might not find your way back to the zone for another three days or another week or another month. So, can you elaborate on like this in zone type thing like do that for certain characters and this is a question for both of you guys. I think that's always a place on trying to get you know it and it's not pretty to anyone character just once a pull on the threat of an idea that I find. Exciting. It's sort of the dam breaks and water starts flowing, and it's amazing how you can look down at two o'clock in the afternoon get into that zone you look up and it's like seven o'clock at night. You're. Only cow like how did this happen but it's a great feeling you. It's not restricted to writing. You could like we'll go to the gym or like I. Don't WanNa be your is the last. Oh God I would like to be anywhere else but at the gym right now, I cannot work out. There's no part of me that wants to do this and then you start working out. In. Twenty minutes into it like you don't even you're you're totally into it you're enjoying yourself. It feels great. But just a matter of getting started in the same thing with writing store lane would read a lot of times you wake up and you're like last thing I wanna do today is right but you sit down and those ideas were coming and then suddenly it feels great. Yeah I would I would agree I I have a very similar experience where you know if. If something strikes me and I need to get it out. It's like you literally don't WanNa leave your chair unless lawsuits to go to the bathroom, and it's that heart is definitely exciting. But. But for me, it is definitely struggle to get but share in the fingers on Keyboard. That's why you know. I always do best at five structure, my time If I'm not structuring the time I tend to not be productive. Oh, yeah I definitely understand that the. All right. So what do you guys have coming up? I have a new series coming out on Netflix just about like a week after the book is released about the space shuttle Challenger disaster in nineteen, eighty six and it's a series were time with bad robot. And to four parter, and we're hoping that you know an assist. So many people my generation generation generation older than us who know exactly where they were remember everything about the Challenger disaster but. We really talk to people about what happened back in nineteen six people think they understand that story in the though the characters that inhabit that story but a don't really particularly the WHO lost their lives in the families that were affected by the loss of life. In that terrible tragedy and the story does. Go through those vans those horrible this time through their respective of those of those characters, the families of the people that were lost and people will get to know the astronauts who. who perished in a way they never have before I'm really excited for to make a connection with given that opportunity and then a dogs which we talked about a little bit on Netflix season. Two of that is coming out in nearly twenty twenty, one number incredibly excited about that. and there's a lot of other fun projects in the works of being released. Soon, we have, we made a documentary about Frank Zappa that's coming out around Thanksgiving, and so it's a really fun creative time where there's all these different opportunities in a whether it's devastation class, which is A science fiction novel or Challenger which is a documentary series. But it feels like all the plants were lining and we're having this rich creative opportunity that's happening all at once. that. All sounds. So them Elaine what about you? I'm actually in the early stages of working on rating a couple of feature scripts both of them are female driven. one is a sci-fi futures said action feature. The other one is the coming of age car movie set in world of Demolition Derby actually. Also. Glenn and I have been working off and on on a project called. Zombie. Zero. So. Which is obviously it involves obvious. that. Tell you that on podcast you can. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well thank you guys so much for being on. You were a joy. I was earning out the whole time when you were talking about your book in your film careers. You. Any final thoughts? Was Fun hanging out with you and. We really appreciate you giving us the time I. Really. Thank you guys so much for coming on for read between the lines. My name is molly southgate. Ireland lounging. 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NBA Preseason Headlines With Brian Windhorst. Plus Catching Up With Matthew McConaughey.

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NBA Preseason Headlines With Brian Windhorst. Plus Catching Up With Matthew McConaughey.

"This is gonna be a fun podcast today. We got Matthew McConaughey, who we're just gonna catch up with. Lucky enough to have him on a bunch of times at ESPN. We talk about his career all sorts of stuff. Brian windhorst, the latest with kyrina Nats Simmons and the sixers and his thoughts on the Lakers. And if you want more of my MBA thoughts, you get about four hours worth on our over unders NBA preview podcast with Bill Simmons and house that's on the bill Simmons feed. We tape that when late last night. That one is done out now. I'll link it to this podcast as well. And then we'll get into life advice. So enjoy the podcast. This episode of the rhyme or sylla podcast is brought to you by state form. Since there have been a few surprises in the league this week, we've got a shout out to good neighbors at State Farm for offering surprising great rates. 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Let's start with Kyrie. Where is this story now in comparison to maybe where you thought it would be a month ago? Well, you know, I think as soon as the vaccine mandate came out in New York, we knew that there were certain players that this was going to affect. Are we Irving was one of them. The other players all got vaccinated. So we came media day came. I was in Brooklyn. Everybody was singing a happy, hopeful tune. And I was like, why? Why would the vaccine has been available to Kyrie since the spring? He has not taken it all the way here. And by the way, the vaccine mandate in New York is relatively simple. You get one shot, you're done. If you don't have to be, quote, fully vaccinated. Actually, the New York City mandate is less than the NBA mandate for what is considered I shouldn't say the NBA mandate. The NBA rule for what a fully vaccinated player is and what he can do based on his teammates is higher than the New York City mandate. So if Kyrie was going to do it, he would have done it. Frankly, as I was saying. So when opening day came or opening training camp came and he hadn't done it, I was like, why is everybody just saying that he will? What reason? The only reason I could think is that Kyrie said I'm going to do it. I don't know if he did or if he didn't, but those guys were singing a happy tune. And they went out to San Diego and you know, the play side want to be is Joe si has this house in la Jolla. I'm sure it's a hell of a house. He has the whole team there. The owner of the nets. And I don't know for sure, but Kyrie was that Joe size house. It's the most important thing in the franchise. I'd like to know what Joe said I said to Kyrie. Did they just joke? Did they go side into the office? Did they joke out, playing croquet on the lawn? You know, but like after that meeting, after that time at Joe's size house, when they got back to New York, and Kyrie was still not vaccinated, things started changing. They said, we are not going to move our practices. And of course, they looked into it. I mean, even if there was a 1% chance of them moving them, they would have looked into it. They were not going to change their practices. Then Kyrie gets clear to actually practice at the facility. I don't know what the team knew, but I can tell you from people who were there when they announcement came. It's caught the team by surprise. In other words, they didn't know it was coming, and I'm not sure they even asked for it. And when that happened, they didn't exactly celebrate. Number three, even though he practiced Saturday and Sunday, they didn't bring him to Philly. This is a guy that they've barely seen. They didn't bring him to Philly. Then they get back from Philly, the next day, and they say, yeah, we're not doing this halfway thing. So ever since that training camp and not meeting, again, I don't want to use the word meeting. I'll get aggregated. Event at Joe size house. The nets have been making decisions taking a harder and harder line with Kyrie. And so here we are. And Ryan, I know that there are stories out there, but Kyrie has yet to articulate his thinking. I know it was ant has said stuff. I know sources close to them have said stuff. He has had one media session where he declined to speak about it. He has not articulated why he is not vaccinated. And so we are really left to just guess at what's going to happen next. Right. And shams had the piece last night that was I would say strategically a counter by Kyrie's camp to be like, let's get our thoughts out there. And shams, look, you're going to get the info. You're going to use that access. But I thought it was very telling that Kyrie's never mentioned any of this voice for the voiceless stuff in regards to the vaccine itself until it was like, wait, I'm getting worked here. So it's not even that I'm anti vaccine. It's that I'm worried that people are losing their jobs on and on, ignoring the health part of it. So I just felt like tactically, it's like, okay, so this is your play. And in reality, you guys can come up with this a week or so ago. And so, you know, at this point, everybody knows my Kyrie thoughts. I haven't spent a ton of time on it. I think those that are closest to him would tell you that they're actually more worried about them than they are ever mad at him because they're just like, what is going on with the thought process here? I think it was a little bit more popular where he had more defenders, both in the media and then in NBA fandom. And yet now with this and his explanation, which I think anybody that's paying attention was like, oh, okay. Here we go. You know, just whenever I read a piece on Kyrie, then it's immediately reminding us of all the charitable work, which has been incredible because he's been great with that. But it's like, okay, that part's great, but that's not the part that we're focused on right now. And really, who cares unless you're his teammate? And that's the part where you go, even if Kyrie is his own man and wants to do things differently. Okay, fine, fine. Like I'm over it doesn't bother me that much. But if I'm Kevin Durant, if I'm James Harden, I'm going guys. We're trying to win a tight. We get a great chance of winning a championship here. And it seems that Kyrie does not care about that part, which may be the most odd of the entire thing. Well, you know, I tried to ask Kyrie a question at media day and just didn't get tonight. I just didn't get to get called on. I really, you know, I've said this before, but they teach us at ESPN to ask open ended questions. You do not ask yes or no questions. But with Kyrie, I think you got to turn that off and you got to ask yes or no questions. So I had two questions for Kyrie. One, does your aunt speak for you? Because you remember that Rolling Stone story came out and what she said was this is not a religious decision. It's a moral one. I don't know what that means. And I don't know how it's not a religious decision. It's a moral one is I don't know how you compare that to he's not anti vax. He's against vaccine mandates. I don't know how that all squares. If they don't, if these people don't speak for him, and if they do speak for him, it indicates it's evolving thing. Evolving thought, I don't know. I would just say that I wanted to ask them that. And I also wanted to ask him, Kyrie, do you still want to play in the NBA? Yes, or no. Do you still want to play in the NBA? Because if he had gotten vaccinated, he probably has a 170 or whatever a $180 million contract extension. When I say probably I'm not making an assumption, Sean marks when they did the deal for Kevin Durant, said we hope to have Kyrie and harden signed by the start of training camp. That means they were going to offer the extension and Kyrie did acknowledge that they were talking about the extension. So and I mean, you can say that money doesn't matter and that he's got a lot of money and that's all fine. But we're talking about I don't know what half of salary is this year 16, 18 million? And we're talking about a $200 million decision here. And so I would just say to them, do you still want to play in the NBA? Is that still something you want? 'cause I don't know. His actions are indicating that he doesn't. But until he articulates this in the Ryan, he doesn't done a very good job of articulating his positions in the past. I think it's all like action speak louder than words. I almost really don't even care about his words anymore. You're either going to get vaccinated or you're not, you're going to play or you're not, and after that, I really don't. I mean, if you donate money or donate your time to a charity, that's an action. I understand it. But I don't really think that words from Kyrie, I think he's constantly I think we're constantly going to be left in circles looking at the ceiling, trying to figure out what he's talking about. All right, let's transition to everybody's other favorite MBA player Ben Simmons. Why is he back in camp now? We did have think about the opportunity the trolling opportunity that existed the other night. If Kyrie had been in Philadelphia and Ben shows up at tip off. Can you imagine if Ben and Kyrie had posed for a photo like outside the Wells Fargo center? Just arm in arm. Unmasked. Because it doesn't seem like Ben is fully vaccinated. Based on what we're seeing this week, based on, oh, he's got to go through a 5 day protocol. As opposed to a one day protocol, that's the difference between players who are fully vaccinated and not vaccinated. You can get a shot and not be fully vaccinated because you've got to wait your two weeks or whatever. But can you imagine what that photo would look? Especially if they were outside amongst fans, you know, or even it was in the loading dock. I don't even care. Can you imagine what would happen, it would have been an all time moment. You know, Ben, you know, this is a money thing, you know? So when Ben first asked for a trade, November 15th, something like a long way away in November 15th is relevant for this reason. Ben's contract calls, I'm sure you've talked about Ben's contract called for him to get 8 and a half million bucks on July 1st, 8 and a half or 8.2 million bucks on October 1st. And then the rest of his salary that back half of his salary would start being paid to him in two week installments, starting November 15th. So very large checks, larger than your checks and my checks not to make assumptions. So that's a fair one. Yeah. Large checks. But, you know, he was going to have the $16 million in his pocket. And he was thinking that even if they find the bejesus out of them, as long as this was resolved by November 15th, he could he could negotiate his way out of it. So he thought he had this long runway between really June, which is when he'd asked for the trade for the first time. And November 15th. Well, a couple of things happened. Number one, the sixers didn't trade them. They kind of called his bluff. So he extends the bet and doesn't report to training camp. And then they withhold second payment. And they start taking fines out of that. Then the NBA makes a cooling. And it's still a little bit unclear to me, Ryan. How this ruling came down, but they examined the rules and they said, if you don't show up for a game in your preacher contract like this, you don't get find one 145th of your salary. You could find one 92nd of your salary. You may not, you may think this is all mumbo jumbo and you may not think it cares. But that's a hundred like $20,000 difference for him per missed game. And they had a posture where they were like we're going to take the money out of this escrow up. Now, you're never going to get it. So he went from thinking, I'm going to have 16 million bucks in my pocket and find that I can get back, and the fines aren't going to accrue at a certain rate to I don't have 16 million bucks in my pocket. They have 8 million I should have and the fines are going faster than I thought and they're not training me. And so basically the sixers called the bluff and prove their positions and Ben folded his cards for this particular round. So the real question is and, you know, I don't know when Ben is going to speak to the media or what we have to actually wait and watch. What Ben Simmons is showing up. Is it going to be Jimmy Butler version where he's in FU mode where he's terrorizing his team or causing his team all kinds of problems? Is he going to be in total laissez-faire summer league run mode where he's just sort of running around out there and not really doing anything and making it hard to even play him? Is he going to be in kick ass mode where he's out there playing his ass off and trying to like send a message and try to get traded? Is he going to hold in and basically say I'm here, but I'm not going to play. I don't know how he's going to play it, but that's the next phase in this saga. Once again is cleared and is able to play. And obviously the reaction from his teammates will be a story and the reaction from the Philly fans will be a story. But ultimately, those will pass, the real next phase of this story is what type of Ben Simmons is actually going to be in uniform or not uniform. Let's get you aggregated. What was the closest they were to a trade? I'll be everywhere close. Did they ever work close? I mean, I talked to some teams who told me some of the things that Philly asked for. And, you know, some of that stuff has been out there, you know. Multiple starters, multiple first round, unprotected first round pick, swaps. They were asking for him, like he was a first team all in a player. And so the teams walked away from it, saying, there was I think in the last couple of weeks, they were still in talks with teams. A couple people described it to me, it was like there was a bit of a softening of their position, maybe a little bit more realistic discussions. But I don't think they're ever close. And. The teams that I talked to that had talks with him said that they think that he's not really, I say, he Daryl more. He isn't really interested in making a trade now anyway. That he's going through the motion of making trade talks to sort of set the bar and stuff like that, but he's waiting for circumstances to change. Another player to get disgruntled elsewhere and want to trade. Another player to get hurt or a team to get off to a slow start or a team that was expected to make the playoffs falter out of the gator or whatever. He's waiting for a situation to change, because right now he's negotiating from a position of weakness. So Daryl wants to wait until negotiating position of strength. And so that is the impression that teams who negotiated with him got. And so that's what I suspect is what he is doing is he's waiting for the offers to change an outside force or through Ben playing and looking great or something. No, it's a really important lesson to constantly remind ourselves that if you're the GM and you're sitting around and you go, okay, I don't have to do this today. And we know somebody is going to surprise us. That's what this league is. It's what it's been the last few years is that every few months we're going to be surprised again and maybe their position better and it ends up being a solution that none of us ever saw coming. So there are two instances I want to say. There are two instances of teams that had guys who demanded trades of star players who demanded trades and they just wrote it out and there's probably more than two. But two that I can remember in the last ten, 15 years. One is Kobe. Kobe says I'm never going to play the Lakers again. Reports, you know, they end up doing the assault trade, they make the finals, Kobe wins the MVP. By the way, to remind some of our listeners have forgotten that he went on the warpath for an entire summer. He was going on shows. I mean, he went. I remember I was at the Orlando draft camp when it was happening. And everybody was just like, did you hear them? I mean, that was his defiant and determined, and then it was like, no, we're good. I remember, my memory may be flawed here, so I apologize. People could take this apart. I seem to remember there was a show. It might have been a call in show. Was it Steven a's local New York or something like that? He called in? Yeah. Keep the interview. Let me end it. And then he called back. It's like, by the way, just to me, you know. I do think I remember him calling in Stephen a so all that happens. And then there was Dwight Howard. We demanded a trade. And the magic were willing to do it. And then three or four days in the camp, I know I was there. They changed their mind and they said, you know what? We're going to keep them. And I think they told the way we were going to keep them. And it was a rough path, rough days, but eventually they got on with it. And remember, Dwight, midway through that year, like, in the middle of the night, picks up his option for the next year. Yeah, that was the weirdest thing. I was going to remind you, but you remembered, he picked up the option and then demanded the trade anyway. That gave you a little window. Yeah, but it was, it was a real window into Dwight. It was like you demanded this trade. It got really weird. You didn't get it. And then you picked up your player option and then demanded a trade again later. And then got it. But yeah, what I remember when I remember about that is I think they had played in New Orleans. And, you know, he was in a happy place with a team and they posed for one of those photos on the team playing where they all get around each other. And he tells the team on the team plane, picking up my option. And Otis Smith, the general manager says, you know what, Dwight why don't you sleep on it? You know, before you sign any paperwork. And so he comes back and no, I'm all good for it. He Dwight describes this meeting that the ownership had to get him to sign this. And he's like, they had all my favorite candy. Like, people were like, do I, what changed your mind? I said, well, what's in the media? And they had all of my favorite candy. I'm sure that wasn't the reason, but it was just a amazing response. An amazing response. So it has happened before where teams have just held up their hand on a trade demand and just, you know, ground, you know, got their way through it. So I think that as bad as this looked at times, I want to point out that this has happened. So that that's not forgotten on the table, something that could happen here as well. Where are you with the Lakers? I have a policy that I've personally enacted that I'm not going to judge them until Christmas because I think that they're going to look bad early on. But when I talk to scouts, we're out there watching them, because they played 5 pre season games. And the Lakers are teams playing four preseason games and they're spiking two of them with their end to their bench. Lakers are playing 7. So I'm not really surprised that they haven't until Monday night or I guess was Tuesday night. They didn't play their big three together. So I mean, a Laker fan is going to say, well, we have a planar guys together. Okay. I got it. But I'm talking to the scouts, and they're like, this looks terrible. Their roster doesn't fit. You know, it's not, I don't think it's gonna work. And I've got people out there going I'm worried for Frank. I'm worried Frank Vogel that they're gonna blame him for this. Now I will point out that now they have two injuries to wing players and. Those injuries that two surgeries are risa and Horton Tucker have surgery. Out for a long time. We're going to be out for months. And so that kind of buys them a little bit of a little bit of a window if they don't get off to the great. They start also their schedules very favorable. So I think they're still going to be good. But my concern is when Carmelo comes out and says, if this team doesn't win the title, it'll be like the 2004 Olympic team not winning the gold. And I was like, oh. First off, I wouldn't bring up the 2004 Olympic team. It's the only blemish on your Team USA resume. And your team will say resume is great. Secondly, I wouldn't set the tone if this team is going to be like an all time dominant team. They could absolutely win the title, but they've got some things to overcome. And so, like, I'm just, if this team starts 6 and 6 or 5 and 7, I don't know how that's going to be reacted, even though the last two years in Houston and Washington Westbrook started very slowly. So I'm expecting a slow start, but I know that the world and the Laker fans especially a lot of them at least will they say they will see the photo for media day where the 6 guys who they think are going to be Hall of Famers are on the team and they will think 70 and 12. Let's go. We'll even lose one game in the playoff series. Because there are fans who felt that way. So I think they can win, I think they can win. But why, what do you think? I think it's going to take them a while to figure out the personalities and the rotations and there's going to be a couple of people that are really pissed off and it's going to suck for Frank. And if LeBron and AD are so healthy, I think they're in the west. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if LeBron and AD are playing at the same level that they played at last year at their best because we know when they got when LeBron got hurt when he had that ankle injury, I think they were second in the west. Yeah, they got their start. The first one over 30 games was a 26 and I forget what I'll look it up here. But there's start. I was like, okay, you know, this is how good they are again. And I know the rosters are perfect. There's some wing stuff. I think what they're going to do is they're probably going to play nice with some of the older players and give them kind of fake minutes. And then we'll start to see that closing group be identified a little bit later on. Well, it's actually going to play LeBron and Westbrook together. That's what I want to see. I think Westbrook is a great addition for the regular season to help them get through stretches where their energies flat or one of the other two guys is missing. He plays hard every night. I'll give him that. And the only thing I'll say is is that no matter what you want to say, but in the last two years, hell or high water whoever was healthy, they were a great defensive team. When Anthony Davis got hurt last year and they went through that period and then LeBron got hurt on top of it and they were both fun, but from way Anthony Davis got her 20 came back. Their defensive numbers actually minorly improved. They went from like the 5th best defense to the third best defense. And Frank Vogel, no matter what you want to say about it, he has gotten them to defend since the day he got there. Whoever his personnel was. So if they defend the way they defended the last two years, then everything's on the table for them. And even if Westbrook is throwing the ball into the third row 5 times a game, they'll be able to survive it. And even if there are three points shooting is a little off, they'll be able to survive it. My question is with 12 new players or whatever it is, whether he can some of them are defenders, whether he can bring that defensive mindset back. Because that is to me, you know, they won the 2000 20 title with defense. I mean, defense and kentavious Caldwell Pope three pointers. That was their push them over the line. And so if they defend, sure, sure, but it's just it's hard to know when your whole team is branding. Yeah, it's 22 and 7. So when I remember going back pretty good, another little run, I think there are 2013 and I thought that was a really good team last year. And I don't love everything about it. And I still think the top of it is really good in the west, but it's so much unknown. Like Denver's probably still going to have a really good record. I think Utah is going to have a really good record. Golden State I still hold out hope for because you saw curry carry them and you need some other pieces are coming back. But I think it's hard to make like a really forceful argument that picking the Lakers is a mistake. I still like Phoenix a lot. You know, I think Phoenix might be a safer bet, but then you're basically betting Chris Paul's injury against Anthony Davis injury history. So, you know, what do you want to do? I mean, the least Paul is still playing. But I'm going to wrap up here, but give me who did you have coming out of the east then? How am I supposed to know? I mean, I think Brooklyn's the best team. Because the best team, I mean, I mean, how can you say different? But I don't know what's going to happen once. You know? Giannis looked pretty good in the finals. They got to be happy right now. Milwaukee's got to be in a good place right now seeing this stuff going. Hey, man, thanks a lot. We'll catch up again soon. All right, take care. This episode is brought to you by Salesforce. Salesforce customer 360 brings your company and customers together from anywhere. It unites your marketing sales commerce service and IT departments we shared easy to understand data on one integrated CRM platform with a single view of your customer, your teams can create personalized experience that builds stronger relationships. Salesforce customer 360 has an app for every phase of your customer's journey, from lead to loyalty. Find the right mix of solutions for any industry combined more apps, help your teams come together and grow your business, explore how Salesforce customer 360 and slack help you unite teams around your customer and transform your businesses all on one integrated platform. Learn more at Salesforce.com slash customer 360. 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And I got to let you know because my mom who's about to turn 90s in the other room and she let me know that on the kindergarten playground when I answered to somebody who said, Matt, you want to play on the monkey bars? And I said, sure. And all of a sudden the next thing I knew I was on the ground looking up going, what does hit me and it was my mother going. What's your name? I named you that for a reason, don't you ever answer to Matt again. So yeah. Because it set me straight. It was right during one of our ESPN radio deals and I go, you know, because a couple guys like, hey, I got them coming up. I go, here's the first thing you need to know. You know, going through the book and listening to a bunch of interviews, you know, now it's on a paperback. One of my favorite things about your story and I feel this way about people is that if you're self long enough, then people kind of figure it out. Do you think it took whether it's Hollywood or the world that's consumed you with so many of consumed your work and everything, it took everyone on the outside to catch up to you and what you're about. That's a good question. Look, everybody said sometimes you change by staying the same. I don't know who said that. But there's something to do, have I changed? Have I grown about? Have I bogeyed and have I birdied all that to cheer? But there's certain things about me that I've never changed from the beginning. I mean, I remember getting into Hollywood, hey, gotta change your name, you know? Not from Matthew to Matt, but let's get rid of this McConaughey. How do you say that Dan lasts? And I was like, no, no, no, let me just so we can get started. That's not an option no matter what, not change it, I am name. If I work out and get successful, people will learn how to say it because, you know, it's not going to hate, rhymes with what will Madonna say. Put that on me to have them be able to say it right, you know? Let me put that on me to be able to succeed or not enough to where people will know how to say it. For instance, you know, it came out, you know, you hear whispers. Hey, you got that sub. You got that southern accident. That's neutralized. That was like, not a for a role, yeah, but in life? No, I'm not. I'm not playing another part. In real life. I've been trying to close those gaps between we all got a gap between who we think we are, who we intend to be who we actually are, how someone receives who we are and how it gets edited. Well, it's the same way a movie, you know? I got an intention what I want to do. Well, that may be a gap between what I want to do and what I'm actually doing. There may be a gap between what I actually do and what gets recorded on the camera. And they're damn sure gap between what I initially do and what gets put on the final film. Edited. I'm trying to always close those gaps. You know, and I've worked on being as much my true self as I can be along the way. I love the beginning stores near the origins because any of this cool stuff, right? Any of this stuff that's hard. There's those moments. And, you know, Texas guy, UT, you know, like everybody read everything about you. And law school or thinking about it. What was that transition like when you go, you know what? For me, it was always, I knew the things I didn't want to be, but what was it for you when you said, okay, I'm actually going to give this a real go. And the people around you. What was that like? Well, so I'm in my sophomore year of college university, Texas. All I've ever thought of being or expected to be to that point was to be a lawyer. I really really wanted to be a defense attorney. Criminal defense. And that's all I ever thought about. And hey, if I could pull that off, right, you know? But all of a sudden had come sophomore year, college where you got to start looking at, hey, these credits that I'm getting. They better be directed in one lane because it's not just liberal arts anymore. They have to be directed towards law school. And if I change my course schedule later, I'm going to lose credit. So I've been writing, I've been writing short stories, keeping journals and stuff like that. I only had one friend, Seth Robbins bentler, who went to high school with. He had gone to NYU film schools. Only friend I had the courage to send him some of my stuff. I don't know, what do you think? You know? And he would always give me a good opinion rollback. Man, this is really interesting stuff. You're really good writer. And these are great creative stories. And he's the one that first said to me. And you ought to think about getting in front of the camera too. You got good charisma. You got good character. And I was like, yeah, I could do that. Isn't it true too? Even if you really want to do that, you're embarrassed to say that you want to do it before you've done it, right? I was and I mean, it would be part embarrass part of for me, who do you think you are even dare to think that could be a real vocation? You know, it goes back to that call that I made to my dad when I got the courage to say that I don't want to go to law school. I want to go to film school. I thought he was going to say on Saturday. Take that up as a hobby, buddy. You know what I mean? You want to get into the arts? Yeah, okay, Saturday afternoon hobby, but right now you get a 9 to 5 job work your way up to the law school. He didn't say that. He told me the three great words don't half ass it. And gave me a lot of freedom and sent him to go chase down storytelling, which I didn't even admit when I went to film school that I wanted to be in front of the camera. It was sort of a hedge. I got into the film behind the camera business. Did I really want to be in front of the camera? I think so. I just couldn't. I couldn't even admit it to myself. So it was a way in and yeah, I was making films, other classmates were asking me to be an actor in their short films, which I was really happy to do. And I think it was better at it than I was behind the camera. It was quick, though. I mean, it's because I love everybody's struggle story, but I mean, I think you finished up school what around 93 days is 93 and so that stage of trying to figure it out and I know the shot locations maybe a little bit different. But take me through that timeline. That part of it of deciding okay, I'm going to LA, but this holy shit, I'm actually in this pretty popular movie. It shouldn't happen as fast. So check this out. So we make days confusion the summer between my junior and senior year. Three day three lines turn into three weeks work or the character named David wooderson in days confused. I go back to school, graduate my senior year. As I'm about to leave and I've got my U haul loaded up in 2000 bucks in my pocket, drive west young men in Hollywood because the movie stays infused is now coming out and that'll be my resume. I decided to take this role and I get this role in Texas chainsaw massacre. Next generation. 320 bucks under the table a day, man, let's do this thing, shooting and flu graville, me and Renee is that why it was that they have a mechanical leg and play a tow truck drive and bad guy, you know, with the who's looking for the batteries for the remote that run as panic a leg. I was like, oh, yeah. That's satisfying. So I do that for a month. Now I reload that you all on a head west with that 2000 bucks. I go sleep on the couch of the man I met in the bar in Austin who got me the job, cast me in days confused. A year earlier. I get out there, look, my first audition was for a film called boys on the side. I ended up getting that job. My second audition was for a film at Disney film called in Hollywood this is in Hollywood after days after chainsaw. My second, first audition for boys on Saturday got the job. Second audition for angels in the outfield. You know what the damn audition was for me? I walk into the producers office to go meet about a role. It's two, two 30 p.m. on a Tuesday on the Warner Brothers lot. The sun was hitting the door that I was going into the meeting in and the ground floor. As I opened the door, I'm back lit. I see this bearded guy on this couch, leaning back and goes, hold on, look at you. I go, yes sir. He goes, oh, American kid. At a white T-shirt on American cap. I said, just sir. He goes, ever played baseball. I said 12 years, sir. He goes, you got chub. All of a sudden they're paying me schedule a $48,000 dollars to go play baseball with Carney lansford and Oakland for 11 weeks. I'm like, please. Possible? Is this legal? And I went and did it. So I didn't have that. Struggle story of trying to get work and not able to get work. And it just felt, that's how it fell out. Felt in line for me. The RomCom part of it, you know, which, again, we can get to the McConnell. So I'd like to take it any direction that you haven't already done a million times, which I knew was tough. You know, a book, and we're learning about your stories. You know, by the way, ghosts of girlfriends passed. I have an ex-girlfriend that's in that movie with you. Oh, she is. It's a scene with a lot of women, so I don't know if she stood out, but she is the blond that asks or says you never called. She walks up to you and she goes, you never called. The event you were talking about? Ex-girlfriend you said? Yeah. I don't like the way you answer that, though. Well, what I was going to say is it's part of my memory, my recollection goes very, very good taste, mister. We went to go see it when it debuted and I was like, all right. I'm going to try to pay attention to the movie and also her and see if I can read anything here. But I still feel good about it. I still feel like I was okay. You're killing it in these movies, you know? And this is what I admire about you because I think anybody that's like you, and look, we can use the term artist loosely here. For this context, let's just use it. I don't know that anybody starts out saying like I have writer friends. I don't know if they start out saying I hope I can do a sitcom on a network that I'm kind of doing layup jokes on. I think everybody wants to show that part of them off. And once you decided, okay, I've crushed it. I've made a ton of money. I've done all these things. It works. This is the formula. I can do this the rest of my life. How difficult was it for the people around you to understand that you needed to make this pivot? Yeah. So you're talking about I had had like four rom coms in a row and all of them did pretty well. Yeah, they were, you know, rom coms and the student Hollywood studio system at that time. There are mid budget, which would be about 30, 35 million, they were making about 65, 70, which makes studio really happy. They're making money, they're entertaining. They're fun, they're lightweight. I'm enjoying them. They're paying for the rent at the beach houses that I'm running surf and shirtless on. That is part and partial being documented as sort of a real-life side story rom com. Like, oh, the guy just comes off the beach shirtless and walks on set and says, what am I? What it was looking like. Now, mind you. Didn't have any problem with that. I'm like, damn right. I've worked to get the money to pay the rent in a place where I can live and go shirtless and surf and run down a beach. Thank you. But at that time, I just met my now wife Camilla. Well, I'd met her earlier. I'd met her about a year earlier, but I was falling in love. And enough so that we decided to make a baby. And we did. And she just had our first child Levi. So do you have kids? No, I don't. Okay. Well, any fathers out there. Y'all know, man. You have your first child. Man is never more mashed than. I mean, the vitality and the clarity where the head is in sync with the heart is in sync with the spirit. I mean, it gave me courage to go look how vital my life is. I've got. Such more meaning in my own life. I have more rage. I have more sadness, have more joy to have more happiness. I mean, I've got depended now. In my life. And I was feeling so alive in my real life that I was also like, but in my work, I kind of feel like I could kind of do it tomorrow morning. It's another RomCom. There are going to be light. The stakes are not high in rom coms. They're not supposed to be high. They're Saturday afternoon flip flop characters. And I said, man, I wish my work could challenge the vitality of my life that I'm feeling that. Well, where do you find that as an actor? In dramas. So I'm going to my agent trying to do dramas and they're every student who's like, nope, don't want McConaughey for that. You stay in your mom calmly and know with them with Conan. And I'm like, what about this one? I'll take a 400% pay cut. Nope. Still don't care. Stay in your lane or wrong time. So all of a sudden I'm like, damn it. If I can't do what I want to do, what if I quit doing what I've been doing? Well, big decision. I call my money managers that have I saved my money because if I make this move and say, I'm not doing rom coms. I might be dry for a while. I'm going to be in the desert of work. I might not work for some time. He says, you saved it, well, you can afford to do that if that's what you want to do. I call my agent. He says, I got your back, whatever decision you make, I'm behind you. I have a long teardrop session with my wife about wow. This is a huge risk. And she knew I mean it knew me well enough to know why I'm in it and said, okay, you do this. She repeated my dad's line to me. If you're going to take the top doing rom coms and you're going to commit to that, don't half ass it. And she knew she was like, this is going to get wobbly. You going with that work Matthew? She knows, you know, man, and he worked for significance. I need work to keep my compass, you know? And she goes, it's going to get wobbly. That purpose every day. Of a vocation. She goes, I'll be here to support you. Just we're not going to pull the parachute. You're going to get like, I got to go back. No matter what she does, what if it's what if you never work again? What if you just took a one way ticket out of Hollywood? We looked in her eyes and looked at my own, as I said, I'm going to find out, but I'm not going back and doing any wrong time right now. Well, it was Jay Ford 20 months, just under two years. I mean, the first 6 months that I said, I'm not doing rom coms. Everyone thought I was bluffing. That's all Hollywood sent me was rom coms. I read those scripts when I read them and say, thank you, but no thank you. I got a story in the book about that one that came in with the $8 million offer has I read it. I was like, thank you, no thank you. Came back at a $10 million offer. I said, I don't need to read it again. No, thank you. I came back to the $12 million offer. I said, I said, no, thank you, that came back with a $14.5 million offer. I said, let me read that thing again. It was the same word, Ryan, as the first one that says, they may dollar offer. The exact same words, the exact same script. But somehow at $14.5 million, it was funnier. It was more well written. It had more angles. I saw more possibilities about how I'm not able to make this thing work. Anyway, I ended up saying no. Now when I said no to that 14.5 offer, I think it sent my hunch is that it sent a sort of lightning bolt through Hollywood. They go, oh. He ain't bluffing. McConnell he's not bluffing. He's really not doing wrong. Well, at that note, everything stopped. Nothing came in. For over a year for the next 14 months, I think came in. I called my agent every week. What do we got? Anything. Every week, buddy, Donna, I'm not even heard your name. I bring up your name before I finish a McConaughey. They go no thanks. I'm like, okay. About 18 months into this, sabbatical, I'm on. I'm starting to go, maybe I did write myself a one way ticket out of Hollywood. I need to think about new vocations. What about a high school football coach? What about a wildlife guy? What about orchestrating that? Hell, I don't know. Well, as life has, as soon as I started to be okay with not going back and didn't realize I might have written a one way ticket out of Hollywood, the phone rings. Well, guess who's now an interesting and novel idea for a drama like Lincoln lawyer, like killer Joe, like paper boy, like mud, like magic Mike, like True Detective, lag to house buyers club, like Bernie. McConaughey, want me? Does Hollywood's like after 20 months? He's like, where is he? What's he doing? We haven't seen him in the theaters in a RomCom. The world hadn't seen him in their living rooms. We haven't seen him shirtless on a beach. Where is he? What's he doing? Creating some intrigue. Now, all of a sudden I became, you know it would be an interesting idea for these dramas. My God. So I own branded in 20 months. So then, when the dramas came our way, I attacked him and rebranded. I wanted I've been trying to figure out the best way to ask this question and so instead, I'm going to ask it with the limitations of hoping to just get the answer I'm looking for. Because I interviewed before interstellar and I remember being like, all right, Christopher Nolan, let's get in there. And then, you know, you've got Scorsese Wolf of Wall Street. Give me the Scorsese Nolan comparison, the difference. The things you think about when you talk about two of the most creative of our lifetime. Nolan. It's a general. First up the hill lash downhill. Also. Really funny. No, no, no, no, no one he's got a great great dress. It's you. He really calls call shit. Like it is. You know, what he does is creates universes and rules within these universes and puts them on screen. That's coming from him. Him and his brother sometimes creating this alternate universe and takes us in and he introduces us to the rules of this whole new universe. You're like, this is he's writing science fiction. And so he creates an entire world. He's in he's really, really, really good at scope. I mean, nobody can really he's one of the probably the best at doing the large scope of the epic scope of the size. And then when he's his best, he does the wide size of this universe and then comes in and makes it personal. That's when he's his best is making it really personal as well within that universe. Because it's easy to get lost and as a director, I think sometimes in those movies where you have huge scope, it's easy to lose like, well, yeah, but who am I going through it with? Who's my character? Who's the lead? The relationships I care about. Now let's go to Scorsese. And that's funny. In his direction to me, as far as I remember, did not involve one word in the English language. It was music and comedy. It was like, yeah, but it's more the perfect. It was all music. We're like, what is we got in the scene? He's like, we're going to be able to hear the cameras and be like, boom, boom, boom. And be like, yeah, I got to boom boom boom, the guy about do it. That was our relationship director to actor. And I loved it, 'cause if you only wanted to talk music or just do notes and make sounds to me without telling me what to do. I'm like, I got here the rhythm. Yes. Let's roll. And then again, you know, you go work with people like that. You're always looking for. What's the magic sauce? Is there something that they're going to reveal to me that I'm going to see or bash their thing? And the answer is, no. There's not a magic sauce. I've noticed it when I've worked with the best actors in the world. They don't have a magic star that you go that's how they do that. Know what they do and they've learned ways that they do it well, and they concentrate on that and really do the things that turn them on really, really well. They don't have a magic magic sauce that you like going, oh, no one else has that. I don't know. No one else sees it that way. No one else perceives that way. No, it's a great answer. And I appreciate you taking us there because I couldn't quite figure out how to perfectly word it. And I know, you know, in my business, which is cool, but it's not cool this is stuff you guys have done. There'll be times. You're like, I wonder what it's going to be like to work with this person. And almost every time it comes down to this guy bus's ass. That's it. He bust his ass. He works work works. Hard. What's that? I said, heard. Yeah, that would be a consistent thing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I thought you met cowherd. And I was like, look, he's good, but you know, because. That's like a RD. Site scene. Here? I was like, that's great. It's like a huge cowherd fan. Speaking of see, I was out to dinner with Colin on Friday and we like to talk about the business probably pointless levels. So I'm going to ask this kind of a fan question of you. So when you work on Wolf of Wall Street with DiCaprio, you probably have known each other running into each other. We would just randomly get a phone call or a FaceTime. You guys have the relationship where you can just check in on each other on announce for no reason. We don't have it. We don't have a, you know, we've been in similar places and had some good times together, but I wouldn't call us like running mates or we don't call each other every month or anything like that. I reached out to him, he'll respond. He reached out to me. I'll respond. But that comes along. I think Scorsese had seen mud. And liked and I think that's where, Trump. Anyway, I was on my way to losing weight for Dallas buyers club when I went and did that. And I was down to about one 53 and I remember I had heard from him from someone else saying can you not keep dropping weight right now? And I was like, okay, I won't lose any more, but this guy I'm playing, you know, I read that I read the scene. He says the secret to this brokering job is cocaine and hookers. I'm like, I can be on the thin side 'cause this guy's wired. You know? So it went in and got that, you know, got that job. It was sort of it was a two day job that one scene were in the top of the dower I have a lunch with me and Leonardo. I didn't really know him that well, but respected his work and still do. But I'm stepping into a Scorsese movement with Leonardo DiCaprio. And they're already a team. They're a well oiled machine. So I have that anxiety, damn right, I do. But, you know, the story behind me chest puppet. That's something I do. And was doing on that day. Before the scene to relax to get my voice down and to hopefully have the entire crew going who's the freak over there? Because I wanted to feel like I was on an island. I wanted to put myself out there alone with people like I needed to get the confidence to overcome feeling of anxiety of being in this movie with Leo in this Scorsese movie in this scene that I know needs to sing. And we had done the takes without the chest button because I never did that in tape. We've done 5 takes. It was done, Scorsese's happy. I'm happy. We're moving on. Something else. And it was Leonardo's idea. He raised his hand. He said, hang on a second party, leaned over and goes was that thing we do before that chest bump and then I told him he would if he did that in the scene. I was like, sure. And what you see in the movie is that next take. Yeah, no, I love that story. I love that story because you said something that was really interesting too. Those guys have been attached to the hip now for such a long time. And it's like, hey, you know, I want to show you some of my moves here too. And they should be the ball, you know? There you go. You talk about great collaboration. You got to lead and you got a new guy stepping in me and you got a lead in Leonardo who's already got rip and ways and working with Marty. And he comes up with an idea. That's like a point guardian of player of the ball. He dished me the ball and said, I'm going to hit you for the layout here. What about that thing you're doing before this? What if you did it in the scene? That's cool collaboration. I know there was a friendship there with Matt Damon, is he still upset about not getting cast in magic Mike? I don't know, David. You're going to call in and let me know about that babe. Hey, come on now. I've seen you to share our fab. He must be must still feel a pinch about not getting cast magic Mike. I mean, that's probably why he last time we talked. He was probably a little gruff with me. Yeah, 'cause again, I couldn't confirm it or not. 'cause he was like, it's not that I didn't get cast. It's that they didn't even think of me. And yeah. He's doing good work. He's always been doing good work. So one of the other parts of the book is getting to the side of you. Is I got a couple more things I want to do here before we finish up. You know, when you were younger and clearly the freedom of not having a family just going, hey, I'm going to do this. And you head down to the Amazon for 22 days. What happens at that stage of your life when you are famous enough and you show up with a couple shirts in a bag and go, hey, I'm just, I'm out here doing this. What's the reception for you at that stage of your life? Here you go. And it's the reception I was looking for and what I needed. Look, you get famous. All of a sudden the world becomes a mirror. You get famous. What's the hardest part for me? I don't mean strangers anymore. Everyone's got to biography on me before I've met them. They're coming up, saying I'm sorry about I'm sorry about miss hud. And I'm like, wait a minute. Number one, you didn't know my name. How'd you know I had a dog? How'd you know her name was miss Hutton? How did you know she had cancer? You just get four informal things of invitation and stepped into my life. Now, you get famous, you get successful, you get, I love you. You get pats on the back. You get you're so great. I need you to go see what bullshit and what's real. So I want to go someplace in the midst of my fame. I want to ghost the place where nobody knows my name doesn't know me from John Doe. And I'll show up in all their only and so measurement of me will be who they met when I got there. We'll never talk about what I do. They've never done them in a movie, nothing. And then when I say goodbye, 22 days later. And I'm hugging the people I'm with. And they got tears running down their face. And I got tears on my down my face. I know it's based only on the man they met. 22 days ago. No mirror, no biography, no baggage. Oh my gosh, Matt McConaughey. None of that. Only based off of who they spent time with in that 28 two days. It's a form of fun and anonymity. Form me checking in, going, oh yeah, I know why I got it. I know why. I know I know I know now I understand why I'm getting some success. I know where it came from. I got it in me. And I needed that. I needed to have to go, okay, that part of you is real. You're still that's you're that's who you are, Matthew. And, you know, am I saying that's all the reasons that I've been successful? No, but I needed that real check in that was not. You know, that wasn't measured by fame. For my own significance, worth. The last thing I want to ask you about, it's a little more personal and it's maybe I don't know if it's a deeper thing or not because I don't think there's a large number of us that have the same same deal. And I know your timelines are a little different than mine. But your parents had been divorced a couple times and married a third time, right? And I know that that happened you were the youngest. My parents, I lost track. But it didn't, the divorce didn't take until about the 6th attempt. And I grew up with it as the oldest. And I know that no matter what your upbringing is, there are certain things. I don't love blaming parents for everything because I don't think it's entirely fair. In some cases it is. And you can have divorces that is the best thing that can happen to the kids. And whatever. But I think there's something that at least happened to me and I don't know if it makes you a bit of a fighter. It makes you think you can fix everything. It makes you kind of a romantic because you see this love that's full attention. Right. And I know you're younger, but do you think that had anything to do with making you fix what you didn't like about your career, having you be, what I think is your biggest attribute is how sincere you are, do you think that kind of shaped you because you have a unique parenting situation, which was certainly the case for somebody like me? It just doesn't happen that often. Right. Man, it might add something to do with it. I mean, it sure as hell inform me that is like and I think you get this which is what I hear is people like about the book, which is not over, man. Go fail. Take more risk. Mom and dad. We had a divorce. Can't live with you. Last 6, but Alice tried again. Go another ten years. Get it a horse. Can't live with you. Go buy another year. I can't wait without you. But without cinnamon, it's like, yeah, so what we're doing, we're trying it. It didn't work. Then he tried again. Who's keeping score? We've been divorced twice. Oh, shit, yeah. Yeah, whatever that one lasts and felt like a vacation. Anyway, we're back together now. Without sort of psychiatric therapy on it or what's wrong. No, you just deal with the problems. It's hard to deal with that. You get back up and you take another risk. Let's try and make it work again. So I think maybe the definitely something about taking risk and not feeling floored by failure, not feeling like being not is, man, when we fail, we got to watch that our mind when it reminds us to go. And this is the mean. This is now how it's supposed to be. Shit. In the same way when things are going great, which I'd rather prefer to go. And this is to me, this is how it's supposed to be. We get respond, it reminded all the time. No, that's not the mean either. But I think, you know, looking in my own marriage, look, not many people know this, Camilla, my wife. Her parents were married twice divorced three times. They ended up divorced. Mine ended up married. So we both came together and were like, oh, we got some reason to like question this whole marriage thing. And the time before we decided to get married, which we were together a long time, actually had two children before we did. We were like, what do we want to switch this thing up? What we're doing is going well. So we had to come to terms with both look at marriage in a different way than our parents did. But also, we didn't judge it. Both of us were like, look at these awesome love relationships, our parents at. Talk about can't live with you can't live without you. And just getting back up off the mat, doing it again, let's try it again. Not about pride. Trying this. I love you. Sing out. I don't know. Sorry about that last night. I voted. I shanked it. Let's try it again. I think that in there inherently is where maybe a lot of my embracing risk problems come from. Yeah, I really think it is, because I think there's a part of you if you grow up with that kind of situation, you're just like, all right, well I'll fix it. Let's fix it. I remember some early breakups that'd be like, well, we'll fix it. And be like, no, this is over, man. And I'm like, what are you talking about? No, no, no, you fix it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, there you go. You know, you find the right one. I mean, you find the right one or you got enough of a connection. It works enough for the both of you that when something does get broken, you don't go. It's over. You go. No, there's enough. I got it. When we're together, you know, I think we say this relationship. We have someone like that when you're together someone you're like, no, when it's good, it's worth more. 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I have a ridiculous house in the south fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids, I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Okay, just Kyle and I today, which is really let's not get ourselves we only want Kyle on life advice, life advice email is the life advice RR at Gmail dot com. Do you play golf Kyle? Now, I mean, we've been over this. I'm scared. I'm scared to do it to public setting. I'll go to top golf. I told you I would give you a really decent set of I know. I know. And that was like a year ago. I don't think I've seen you since the year before you said that either, so. Yeah, I still think somebody from the ringer stole my new balances that stock ex sent me to. So we can arrange an exchange. Yeah. No, the sneakers have nothing to do with you. The golf clubs are on me. I could have invited you and Titus down at some point, but I didn't, but that's not really because I don't like anybody. I guess I just realized I don't really hang out with anyone. Yeah. But then I do hang out with people, 'cause that's not entirely true, either. I kind of say that and then I'm like, all right now I'm gonna hang out with people. All right, here we go. Our guy's checking in from Laredo. No need for measurables, not ideal. I've been a golf for about two decades, 20 years, kids, still not any good, but shoot low to mid 90s. You know what? That's fine unless he's doing kind of the round down thing. It's probably over a hundred, but I don't know if you're shooting bogey golf. It's probably a little frustrating if you played a lot over 20 years, and you're not in the 80s more consistently because I've seen guys that don't look like they're great athletes. They just play a lot, figure it out and can shoot in the 80s regularly. But bogey golf is not exactly a bad time. Problem came up as I'm playing with a friend. I normally give him a few straight, a few strokes, but he's not far off in my skill level. We went out recently. I was playing well, ended up with an 85. Nice, nice. My friend on the other hand had the worst day I've seen him have since picking up the game about 18 months ago. Beat him by 40 strokes. Wow, so he shot a one 25. My question is, how do you handle rising tension in general pissed off attitude in the car between shots? It was a Sunday, and the course was on the slow side. So we had a lot of time to kill in the car and it's T box. It's normally I try to laugh it off and find the bright spot in his game, but it just wasn't there and he was becoming more upset. And is any golfer knows that almost always leads the worst play. Any help for dealing with this? This happens to everybody that plays golf. I don't play at all anymore. I played this past week at the vineyard golf club, which shout out to them. I appreciate you let me get on for a quick, I don't know, I think I played like 7 holes because it was raining. And my brother is there, so it was kind of cool to be home and my brother had never golfed before, so I was like, hey, look, let's get out there and swing it around a little bit. And it just reminded me how much you actually can love it even when you're not that good at it. But I also know myself and I also know I'm super competitive and I'm hitting a couple of bad shots. Literally not playing at a course in a couple of years. And of course, my brother's younger than me, so he's not allowed to get mad at me. But I wasn't, I wasn't happy after a couple shots, and I had to be like, hey, what'd you expect? This is a really, really hard game. This is a really hard game. But that's not normally the way you feel. So I remember, I think the last time I played in something for real, it was a tournament, best ball, so I'm good to have around for that. Even though I'm not that good. And I hit a couple of bad tee shots, which is what I was there for. And my buddies like, wait, are you going to get pissed today? You don't even play anymore. And you're going to get mad. And he was kind of giving me a warning. He was really looking at me, giving me a warning. Are you going to try to carry yourself? You have this expectation that you're just going to come out here and shoot like in the 80s or just we're going to be using your ball throughout the entire day. You're here for about 5 T shots, hopefully. And that's the only reason you're here. And he was right. He was right. Because when you're not good at it to then get mad, is really about something else, you know? I can accept being mad about some things every now and then. When it comes to golf, you know, like some guys that are pretty good, they get some money on the line. Somebody wants to throw a club. But if you're throw a club, kick the car, be mad, swear after every shot, it sucks to play with. It just sucks to play with you. Because then you kind of just doing like this performance thing. And so to handle this, I mean, if you're that close enough friends, you can say I would think you could just say, hey, you know what, man? And it sucks because you can't do it out of the first tee box. And then it rattles them and he's going to be messed with the first few holes anyway. And then he's going to blame you for bringing it up. I think you're going to bring it up in a softer manner. Like my buddy did it to me directly because he knows I like direct where he's like, and you're going to be mad about bad shots today that we were going to do. You never play. And he was right. And it reset me and I go, you know what? Relax just be happy I'm here with my friends. But I'm guess I'm giving myself credit for being able to adapt that because I don't know that everybody's going to handle that the right way. Because I don't know what this guy's about. But I would maybe in a playful way, the next time you're out maybe having beer is not golfing, maybe you've got a third party, maybe there's another friend that's part of the core group here. You bring him out. Maybe you bring two guys out. And you guys just all start bullshitting about whatever. And then it gets to the golf episode and you just start going man. You are on one last week and then you talk it out with him a little bit, right? So that doesn't feel direct, but it's exactly what you're doing and everybody starts giving each other a hard time. And then, you know, as the beers flow, you can start saying, I don't know that I can cough with you again, man, if you do that. And so these things will be planted implanted into his head so that hopefully if he's a reasonable person, the next time around he'll remember this, even though it was playful, it didn't feel accusatory. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't you being as mad as you are and being annoyed by it. Like I had a friend one time we were playing and look, we were out bullshitting. He started taking golf more serious than I did. And we weren't playing for any money, and he was like, what did you have on that? I was like, I think I had a 6. And he's like, you had a 7 Ryan. You had a 7, and then he counted back the strokes. And again, I wasn't even trying to cheat for any reason at all. I just fucking didn't care. And I was like, I think I had a 60s. You had a 7. You had a 7, and I was like, man, that's some pent up shit there. Like, what's going on with that? He's like, well, you don't always keep score perfect. 'cause I don't really care. I go, I wasn't gonna tell people if I shot a 90. Now at this point, when I was playing with him, I definitely didn't care. The time when I was decent and had a membership, we cared and we kept it straight. But I wasn't better than the other guys started playing for money anyways because I was going to lose. But I was like, wait, you're really, really mad about this whole thing. So golf people can get they can get really mad about a bunch of different things. I don't think you're wrong in this one. I think you're right. But if you do it off the first tee box, hey, you were an asshole last time. Don't be an asshole again today. Then you've basically ruined the round, you've ruined his day, even though it doesn't seem like you could ruin anything beyond if you shoot a one 25. I would do it playfully if there's some other guys kind of plant to see that, hey, that wasn't the greatest time, but do it in a way where it feels like you're just busting balls so he doesn't get all bummed out defensive and offended. Kyle? I don't know. I don't know about any of this. I think I would actually just take your advice because I don't have any to give. Okay, that wasn't a great Kyle one, and that's my fault, Kyle. So you understand that, right? I think people come for the Kyle. Maybe they come for the ride and they stay for the Kyle. I think that's probably that's probably. That's probably out. Right. All right, so let's turn up the heat again. This one's, I don't know if this one's it starts off sad. It feels sad, but maybe you can be happy to, who knows? 39, 6 foot one 95 can do 12 straight, strip pull ups. That's great. Kind of in between dad bod and fit. Married 7 years, younger daughter, just bought a house. Just got a huge hammer dropped. Wife does not want to have sex with me anymore. She said she gets anxious about it. Doesn't want to have the pressure of that part of our relationship. Sex for us is pretty standard. Nothing weird, usually maybe once or twice a month, which I was totally fine with. But now she said she wants zero. I did not think there's another guy because my wife basically has been asexual for a while now. She doesn't mention good-looking men on TV. There's some other stuff in here. I'm just going to leave out, but I think you guys get the picture here. When a guy hit on her at the gym, months ago, she was weirded out by it. I'm basically broken man. I'm frustrated and upset, extremely hard not to think of it. It's another guy, but I don't think that it is. She works from home all the time and the only time she ever goes all out is with my daughter. Very rarely as a girls night out talking once a year may be here. So I assume cheating is not there. We've discussed options like divorcing or in open marriage. She says she feels bad that she can't fulfill that part of our marriage and encouraged me to go out on a date. Basically an open marriage. I don't know what to do. We just bought this house. It's really great. My daughter loves it. Close to family. I love seeing my daughter every day or growing up. It's very important. We both make 6 figures on the low end. She makes close to double and plans to make much more high rent area. So he's talking about if he divorces his budget isn't really going to work out because real estate right now and as we all know some of the real estate guys out there, we all know this part of the podcast, you guys are your favorite part. But yeah, real estate's insane in some of those desirable places like we've never seen before in the country. So he's basically saying, look, I could move into a co op if I want to move out. My wife and I joked about me retiring 15 years of just taking care of the house, but I feel like that's down the drain. I don't think of my 40s that would be back on the scene. But I guess that's where I'm headed any advice would be appreciated love the bottom things. Well, some guys are here in this going. It's on, man. You live in the dream. But that's not the case, right? There's some real emotions here. It feels like everything with a family part of it was fine. Even if she were willing to only have sex once or twice a month, I will tell you that hearing the stories from different friends, long-term. Kyle, does it kind of blow your mind when you talk to older people? And I know that I'm older, but since I've never been married, but when you'll talk to people and be like, hey, it just stops. You just stop doing it. How common, how often that happens and I would say to the single guys listening, how horrifying that sounds. I don't like, I don't know what the truth is. I feel like something feel like myths and they're not. And I don't really talk to many older people about what the frequency is with sex once you get to a certain age or I know the myth is after marriage, but then I know in the beginning of marriage, it's like cool, but then I guess it's a gray area for me and I've heard conflicting things through TVs and my very few conversations that I've ever had with somebody in the 50 60s. I guess 50s would probably be more 50s. So I guess I don't know which way it could go. It just seems like a pretty shitty dice roll and it could either stay good or go really bad. So I guess I wouldn't ever say that I have had a read on it, but I've got conflicting responses. Okay, I'll tell you right now, it's not a myth, all right? I have too many friends now and, you know, I'm definitely older than you. How old are you again? I'm 27. Right, so okay, I've got like two decades on you now. I'm telling you, it's not a myth. I mean, it happens. But until you experience it yourself, it always feels like this fable, you know, you're like, wait, what? What happened? The situation with like ray and Deborah and everybody loves Raymond, where he's just like begging. And it seems like it happens once every four weeks for him. But then more about everybody loves Jesus. I didn't watch that show. Okay, that was a go to for you. Are you the king of queens guy? No, I was actually not a big king of queens guy out of spite because I thought everybody loves Raymond was so great. Okay, all right, fair, fair. Okay, so this is true and clearly this guy's writing about it. It's true. I think the biggest thing man is, you can't be so upset with yourself. First of all, right? I mean, unless there's something that you're not admitting to us, which is going to be the case. A lot of these times, we're only getting one side of the story here. But if we were to take this the way it's being presented to us, is I know this is devastating because you want the family part of it. You don't want to just move out. But yeah, it just feel weird. I mean, that's going to be kind of weird. Like you come home and your wife's like, how was your day? And she has no problem with the emotional, part of this, where you'll become emotionally attached to somebody else or you're not allowed to be emotionally attached, you can only be physically attached, but then once you become physically attached, a lot of times you do become emotionally attached. And she's okay with all of that stuff. So it's not just that she decided she just doesn't want to have sex anymore about it, which, again, you know, you've got to deal with. I think the part where she's totally okay, I'm just, I'm wondering what she says to divorce if it's even discussed. If you say to her, I'd like to be divorced. Is there a response no or is a response like yeah, totally, I get it, that's fine. Is she that detach from? Because now we're talking about something that's beyond just withholding sex. It could just be that she doesn't want to be with you anymore. And any one of my friends that either been divorced or has talked about it because I think it probably creeps in a most relationships. You know, it's somebody at some point, even the stronger marriages. There'll be some rough patches everywhere you're like, wait, is this not gonna work out? I never really quite know. So I don't pretend to have the answer to this again as a non married non parent. But the calculus of how much do I do for my family? How much do I do for the other person? How much do I do for the relationship? And how much do I do for myself to make sure that I'm still happy? Because I think that last part is the one that's the easiest to ignore. You know, I personally. Can understand a family fighting this day together, but sometimes fighting to stay together is really the worst thing that you can do. I think it's great. You know, being a parent immediately gets you out of your own head. You start thinking about this other person, the bullshit that gets you caught up in all the just the day to today nonsense. None of it really matters anymore. So it's easy to get through that stuff because you get something that really matters that you get to get up for every day and make sure you're creating a better life for. And there's a selflessness in that. I think it's the beauty of being a parent and all that kind of stuff. But it doesn't mean it has to be 0% about you. And I think, you know, some of the experiences I've had with my own life and other friends, it's like you can't and maybe this makes me sound selfish, but if it's 50% about your daughter and 25% about the marriage, you know, it's still it's okay to have that number be higher than zero about yourself. So really what I'm saying here is I would figure out where is she on the marriage? Because if it's if it's not just sex and that she's doesn't care if you're not there the next day, then you're going to be in a relationship with somebody that doesn't even want you around because you love being around your daughter and it's because you don't want to live in a shittier house. You know, I would live on a couch before I would live in a shitty living situation. But again, I don't have a daughter, but I've always felt like, you know, kids, kids are smart. Kids are around you every day. You know, they're your third roommate or depending how many kids you have. You know, growing up in a house where that part of the top is strained. I think people will say, again, this is my own experience, but people will say, hey, stay together. Kids stay together because the kids take it. It's like, yeah, that's not always in the best interest of the kids. So I would figure out the wife bar first, man. You know, honestly, I would need a more definitive answer on where she's at with you, hanging out with other women. If she has no jealousy whatsoever, that's weird because then it would make me think she doesn't even really care about you. And I don't mean to be so brutal about it, but this email feels like it's more about something else than it is just a sex part. Now if she's cool and she loves you and she supportive and she wants you and the family and all that stuff's good and you're going to be out on the scene at 40, all right, you know what I mean? Good luck. It's gonna be enough challenges if you haven't been sharpening the iron out in the scene for over a decade. Now is a 40 year old guy, not to bum you out, but it's real. You could get on a dating site, but now that means her family and neighbors, somebody's gonna see it, and they're gonna be like, what the fuck's going on here? And you're gonna have to find somebody who's down to hang out with a guy that actually has a family. Where it's not a Don Draper situation, unless you look like I'm gonna be fine. So there's, yeah, you get some stuff, but I would try to figure out the first part of this first. Any thoughts Kyle? Not too many, not too many thoughts. I will say I am a child to divorce so it's not the 50s anymore, dude, you can get divorced if things aren't working out and they're like, obviously, you're writing a podcast about it. You're definitely thinking about it, which means you're probably thinking about it every day, which means it probably makes your day pretty shitty. And I think that's one of the grounds for divorce is when all of your days are shitty. But yeah, it's not the 50s anymore. You could totally do that. And I guess I just kind of have more of a question. I would hope you'd accept to follow up here. He said that she's basically asexual, so I did a little Google search wound up on WebMD. So asexuality is actually kind of a muddy water situation. It seems like you can say the word and it's it could be a sexual orientation or it could just be the absence of sexual feeling. So it's just like, I guess I'm wondering because the first thing I was going to say is did you have a conversation about it? It sounds like he did, where he was just like, listen, this is somebody that bothers me. I've noticed we're not having sex. So that hard awkward part is out of the way. So he did that. I guess is it something where it's just not going to happen right now? Like updated somebody who's like, had like a tough sexual password. It's like sex. Sex was like a bargaining chip or whatever. They just have weird feelings about sex, but it sounds like this is like simpler as like I just don't have any sexual attraction to you. So have you actually come to the conclusion that this is just never going to happen for you and maybe not that she would be into taking some sort of pills or chemical reaction things. But have you already come to the conclusion where it's just like, this is how I feel. Not like, yeah, I don't know why I haven't been feeling it lately. Have you really done the hard conversations if you're talking? I guess they must have if they're talking about maybe going on dates and stuff. I guess, yeah, this is fucking tough. It feels like all of this is, you're right, wow, wait, Kyle. You just dropped the divorce bomb on us all? What? Because it's like it seems like that's one of those classic things like, yeah, so if she doesn't have any sexual attraction to her, it doesn't mean she doesn't care if you're spending your time with someone else and like enjoying like inside jokes with someone else and I don't know, like you're still like, it's gonna be really hard to balance that coming home to then with kids and then also you have to spend time with her because you still like her as a person. You just can never get to the sexual thing that you guys both used to have. So it's like, I don't know. It seems like one of those things where she's gonna say, yeah, it's fine. And then it's not gonna be fine. And then your life's gonna suck for other reasons too. So I don't know. I think sex is a big part of a marriage. I think you should get divorced. Kyle, just not mincing words. I'm not ready to offer up any more on this because I think there's a large part of the audience. It's like you two idiots should shut up about this. We never talk about any of this stuff, but that's part of the segment. I mean, and honestly, it's not like this guy is like a lot of people who's like, yeah, I've been thinking about this a lot. Like he's had the tough conversations. He knows what she feels about. He's not like, I'm wondering what she's going to say about this. She told him the stuff that you'd never expect to be told. Which means they must have been at least a couple conversations in. So like he's done. But this stuff happens. You know, you're right, you're totally right, but I just think it's always important to remind yourself that, you know what, there are all sorts of relationships that have all these we're all hear about a divorce. I'm like, what? And then a buddy will tell me about something else. I'm like, what's going on? And you're always kind of like, I can't believe that's crazy. And then you start to realize that it's crazy when it isn't crazy, right? The crazy ones. I was like, no, I'm totally totally neutral. Everything I'm just, you know, very content, just a nice, easy, slow, stroll through the park for the next 30, 40 years. Kids are good, and get a good schools. You know, no college loans. You know, and you're like, oh, so that normalcy is actually the most odd, the odd thing of all these different relationships. But I would just emphasize one more time. Don't feel bad about you wanting to feel better about your situation, whatever that solution is. Reminder check out the Bill Simmons in-house and my self and be a preview podcast two parter all 30 teams over unders our finals picks awards picks as well. That's in the Bill Simmons feed. I will tweet it. On this one, thank you, Kyle, as always, we'll talk to you Friday.

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So we are at the Venetian hotel actually were in the Palazzo tower of the Venetian here in Las Vegas. I wish I knew how to say the name of this Logothetis Lugosi Lugosi, I think legacy. Whatever here we are at God ADM, they've given us this like dope room to record in. We have a full bar, and yeah, this is fun. I think I was like, okay. So I should start doing more like travel podcasts because then I can just expense. My fun trips. Ooh. Yeah. That's right off now because it's a work -actly. That's smart. You weren't even at lunch today. And I wrote it off. I mean, you're technically here for work. I am. That's what I'm saying. I was like, you know, what I'm here working and last night. We were you weren't there. But I took all of my girls. Do the magic Mike show as all of my listeners know, I'm a regular art. Yeah. They I think at this point. She is just part of the magic Mike show. So I heard that the host is leaving. Oh, my God, you told me that last night, but I was so drunk. I forgot I was. You need to jump on that you need to get that spy. I know like meant for you. That is literally like my dream Vegas job. Yeah. Hosting not show. I mean, not just to be around like the Hawkeyes. But like it's like hosting improv like its audience interactive. It's dancing like it's made for you. It's leisurely needs to jump on that and on that. I don't mean the Dix. I mean like. So I was also a part of the show again last night. I was pulled up on stage by Ryan the drummer. Oh god. I saw the videos. I was like oh God. I texted braces drummer, Bryce, fine. And I was like dude you got to start doing this. When you guys are guys pulling people on your need like that cool. Like, I'm not there yet. But they showed every city you go to you can pull a girl. Yeah. I I don't know why more people don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I thought it was a good idea. Shadow to Bryce mine. He's killing it. And I love music. Yeah. So I've been like I just kind of named myself as number one band aid like what almost famous as my shit. Do. Not know what abandoned is. No, oh my God Kayla. Have you not seen almost famous? No. I haven't did. We just on become. I don't know. What is that? But what am I missing out on my arms for no, my, I don't hang. Okay. So in the movie will also my cat is named penny lane after the song after Kate Hudson character in the movie, so you need to see this movie. Okay. It's like seventies. Like Rockstars like, they're on the almost famous tour, and one of the things that she says in the movie all the time is it's all happening. So that's like lightning. Oh so much. Okay. A bunch of people started getting tattoos that look like you were. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. I know and I wasn't. I mean, it makes sense because they probably like the movie and the like, you know, so that's what this is from sick. But wait while we're talking about this. Where were they go out? Where we we're talking about Bryce. Oh, right. Right. Band-aid? What are you guys? I've loved even drinking all day. This is a very interesting experience survey, right? So bandaids are groupies. But you don't sleep with the talent. It's like groupies follow the band's rent, but they're sleeping with them. They're like the hose or you're telling me that you've never slept with. Oh, no never. Are. You sure where I got. So I do I I could have sworn that. We were in Vegas. I don't know when I just always assumed that you had how now we're just really good friends. Okay. Sure. Yeah. He's one of no. One of my axes like best friend. Okay. We just we would not go there. Like, no, I I don't have already slob with one of my best friends. I don't need to sleep with another. True. Yeah. You guys we'll see how that awesomely plays out the season. But yeah. So anyway, so bandaids are the groupies who were there for the music. So I was like I've gone to Chicago to the obviously I've seen him in LA. I've been here in Vegas with him. I flew to Chicago for his Halloween show. So you're like a creepy stalker from Bryce. Fucking band. One does Chicago. Then Atlanta should and Denver. Yeah. I'm just like on tour with him. Right. I'm not a part of it. Maybe you should just host his shows. Oh, I won't. There's not really like a host. There's like this is his first headlining tour, so they're like opening acts, and it's so funny. One of my sister's friend's band seven seven one five or one of the opening acts for his jure interesting. Yeah. And when we were in Atlanta, I didn't realize that there were two opening acts. And I was like, okay. I was like I just wanted to make it out for the law song in their only song that I know. And then all of a sudden Bryce like texting me, and he's like other doing that song right now, I'm still on the tour bus smelled like we shit. And I was like don't tell them. I missed it like pretend. And then literally one of the guys JP comes to me like after the show, and he's like Bryce told me, Mr. set. I was like oh my God. Dude. I'm so sorry. And he goes you did he's like he didn't even tell you right here on yourself. I got caught but I missed it. So I was like, okay. Well, I'm going to go to another tour date. So denver. Boom, amazing. But anyway, so yes, I'm the number one band aid. I don't even know how we started about their shower is going to be all over the place. You guys. Let's let's recap last night real it in a little rain. Okay. 'cause I don't think long tangent about Priceline for Noreen, whatever he's dope. Guys. Check him out. Drew barrymore. See that's the thing to do. I'm always like shouting her mouth. And he's that's why I assumed that you guys said, no we're still talking about pace. Let's subject. All right. So any last night threes? Do my voice has been Ross. We like my last leg four shows. I've done my voice has been raspy because I've been all over the country. I was in Atlanta two weeks in a row. And then now, I'm here in Vegas. I mean, I feel you whenever I drink too much of my voice is like usually gone. Yeah. Like, I'm talking about is Denver show. But that's actually next weekend. But by the time, you guys are listening to this. I would have already gone to Denver. Wow. I see what you did there now. But I haven't been there yet. I'm like, wait, I'm still traveling because then I'm going to Nashville and Denver. But by the time, you guys are listening to this. I'm going to have already been to both those. So you're like almost talking about your pretty much about the future, basically in the future in the future. So by this point, you're already fired on though, him beach beach club, whatever whatever and we're going to get into that. But I'm not fired yet. But I will be by the time. He goes there listening. Okay. Last night reason why my voice is still raspy. I mean, where do we even begun? Honestly, I don't know it ended. It sapphire. The stripper followed us to El Dorado Toronto. I barely remember being Eldorado. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. She took all of my money not doing like stole. But was like getting mad that like, I didn't give her more money. And I was like girl literally like, I gave them my last forty here. I didn't even ask for the lap dance. I don't want it like they never remember that happening. Yeah. That's very. Yeah. And then she likes that down. Just like can I sit here? Can I talk to you? And I was like, okay. Do I do I pay you like redoing therapy? This is like a paid conversation. Like, do you just want to be my friend? Yeah. Yeah. But okay. So the night started here at the Venetian. We did cocktails at Elektra that bar is so cool like the little like round area we were sitting in and chargers fans, there were lightning bolts everywhere, which was really cool. That's why you like, okay. It's all coming together. Now. That's why I wanted the picture right there. Like the charger bowl. I really like the lightning bolt for some reason. I didn't know I mean, I have a tattoo of one as well. Okay. But I'm sure I get. Yeah. Okay. And then we had dinner thirty two. I kept calling it seventy two to why know seventy two it was not coming up on Instagram. I'm like, I can't find the I'm pretty sure you texted me, seventy two British. I don't know where I came up with that either. But yeah, yeah. Except we never got our fried rice. And I'm still craving deliver it to the rave ran out of ingredients. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah. So we might have to go back and get that fried rice because I've been craving it. But the food there was so good. It was I definitely recommend it that Sebok at the end. We're like, okay. We have tickets magic, Mike. We gotta go our food out and come out yet. But we're like when it came out, and we got it. So that they put on so. Yes, then Kayla went back to her boyfriend and me and the girls white-hot a birthday party to go to. Okay. Yes. Birthday party for your other Kayla? Yes. For the other. That's still so true. That you guys same names fell the same way like same name famous nasty except she's like two or three years younger than me super weird though. She's the baby. But yeah, that was a good show. Like, I think me slurping the rest of them are. I haven't even sipped mine yet one sack. So good. All right. So yeah, magic, Mike. I think the girls thoroughly enjoyed the show. Yeah. We have two of them sitting in here. We got genetical look at this guy. Hello, and caviar is I would assert. That is definitely what hear us out there. Can you hear me? No. He can't. Don't come in. Come in. Any of your kilos or Kathy? That is an interesting show. I don't think I would walk around wearing that. And we'll know whatever more power to him. All right. But. So I brought four girls with magic Mike show. And I was like, okay. Here's the thing. I can't pick between one of you got pulled on stage. So I'm going to selfishly just have to pick my. Oh, yeah. One for the team. Exactly. Yeah. I was just like there's five of us. One of us is going on stage. I can't pick between the four of us. So I guess it's going to have to be me guess so for the hundred time. But it was so fun. Yeah. So then okay. So we love magic do you. Remember that that one girl that was with us lost her phone and then found it on the top of Mikey's car. Even though we had drug driven from one casino to another Kayla was your no that wasn't my phone though. Some other girls phone, oh, it was your phone. Oh, oh my God. Mike, he's friend friend jersey was in town. And she's like last my phone. Oh, my God freaking out couldn't find it anywhere. And then you just find my iphone? Yes. And it was on top of his car, and we had driven to new casino by then that is crazy. No, I don't really go. He was probably going really slow like, I'm so crazy. She's so lucky. Yeah. That's not she got her phone back. Yeah. So okay. We went from magic, Mike. I'm trying to like ruined went to feed them. We did hide to hide Balaj. Oh. A lot. Yeah. That was a lot. We were like literally placed at the deejay booth. John. It was like it was not spy, then you you might have. We got the phone back. Strip club. And then from there. It's kind of a blur. I don't remember the ship that much. I do remember that girl dancing all over you, though. Yes. What what were we we're calling her Haley Baldwin? She looked like Haley hall. She. She said that she looked exactly like for about shorter hair. Right. Yeah. Wow. Okay. It's all coming back. It has she's like sitting there with us for like a while. And then she was like is it qualifies here. No, Mike young. I mean, you're probably sick of guys like stopping your ass all night, like Sherlock, hang out with the girls. But then I'm like way do we pay her like, it's not like therapy. Like, I'm not like trying to get advice from the super. And then she like literally followed us next door to the Mexican restaurant and was just like staring at me. So like intensely money Ray, I was saying girl, I gave you all of my money this morning we woke up, and I was like I started with four hundred dollars last night. All I had left. We're twenty dollars in one. You know, you had a good night when I was like we were told me money going, and then I was like, oh, the model service girl the strip club cash everyone. So we're gonna make another trip to the ATM. So that was our night. And then today woke up at like ten thirty and the thing about Vegas how and by the way. So Sheena sends me a video of herself. I had just opened my eyes. Like, I'm like barely wagging. I think it was probably one o'clock maybe at this point. Yeah. I slept in obviously, I was like super hung over her hair and makeup are done. And I'm like how is she alive right now. First of all I have my individual eyelashes on Phil from like three days ago. I attended moisturizer in blush. I did not have my makeup on your hair looked great shout out to drive ours at the miracle mile shops at Planet Hollywood. They did my hair yesterday. And it's still I think her name's Washington. So if you guys are in Vegas, I want to go to dry bar. She is the ship because my hair is still perfect. It literally looks like she woke up and down here this morning, and I'm like in bed dying, and I can say it's perfect because I didn't do it. Shout out to Washington. So I know Schmidt, so awesome. I used to when I lived here. I would go there every week. And I have my extensions in just it's so much easier to have someone else your hair, especially the mop like I add. But I love dry bar. I really do what I know. I need to go. Because a lot of the girls on the challenge. Go to Dr Barton have them like Dookie braids. And so yeah. And I can't braid my own hair. Really? So. Go and get some. Okay, wait on. Let's talk about the challenge. What are you going to be on any more coming up as of right now? No. I mean, I live because you got new boobs, and you just like can't compete. Yeah. That's it. No. I mean, if they call me in the future, definitely down to do it. I'm not going to say, no because the challenges so much fun. But I'm not on the current season. I had just gotten done filming low him beach, whatever. So I got home and they were like you're not going to be on season. And I was like damn well, that's, but I kinda it's going from show to show like dis really freaking tiring. Yeah. I'm kind of happy. I didn't go usually I make really poor decisions on camera when I do two shows in a row. So that was probably hitting my best side. Yeah. It's usually my best interest to just take a see. But did that check deserve to be punched? She probably did. Yeah. Been punctured and you just like shot at her. It was not that big of a deal and then on low hand beach club right before I got there this one girl like karate chopped another girl in the face. I saw that it kicked off. And I'm like what rules are there. I'm so confused. They're both MTV and they're both produced by being a memory. And somehow she got to stay and I went home for a damn push. So. So here's steering that's super shakes, whatever. I mean. Yeah. Well, that's kind of depends on who. You are. Yeah. True. So I've only watched the episode that your own on low him beach club house says everyone. Yeah. So there were four episodes. I think before you came on. I was like, nah, I'm gonna wait until my girl Kayla's on because that's like always been are things that we don't watch each other's shows. I have never seen like the challenges or anything. But I was like this show after watch because everyone's saying it's a copycat Vander, Bob. I think you did you even said that I've said that a couple of times like trying to be Lisa Lindsey wants to be Lisa really badly. But lee. Need to watch. What I say here. Okay. We can edit this. We're not live. I know by Lee Lindsay will never be Lisa. No one will ever be Lisa, and I don't even watch vendor pump rules, and I know enough about Lindsay to know that she is not boss enough to ever be a boss. Yeah. Like, she's just not. And I know that from what you've told me about Vander pump. I don't know if I'm wondering guys, Bob so tired. I don't know if I already said that I don't watch. But I know from you. Kyw James or whatever. Yes. He got fired. Right. Yes. From Vanderbilt from sir from certain album the show. Okay. But he hasn't worked there anymore now. Because why because you guys because you guys, right? Not to me personally. But to Katie he was a dick and she felt uncomfortable. Yes. Working there. Get somebody who's gonna treat her like there's she gave Sunol tomato. And she said either he goes or I go, right? And I think it was fair for her to let go of James because he was the problem in the situation. Yeah. What I'm trying to get out here is that Lisa was supporting Katya. So. Yes, Katie by getting rid of James, whereas Lindsay's supports that guy. Brent on the show and Brent is a complete douchebag to everyone. And I've seen there was an after show where Lindsay said that she relates most breath. And it's like that says something about yourself if you relate most to the guy who's an asshole to all the girls. Maybe you should reevaluate your life. Okay. Brent the guy who was dating the girl after two weeks, and then they broke up. Yeah. And they Vegas, right? I'm fortunately, you did you know him before the show. No, Mikey knew him before. And I had never heard of him. But when I got there, I knew he was going to be there and Mike and him had like, you know, cross Pazar knew each other. They have mutual friends and stuff on everyone in the industry here. Kind of knows each other. So. I didn't know what to expect of him. But now making him are not cool. So I'm like unexcited for whenever Mikey sees Brent out because that's going to be an interesting situation. Yeah. Okay. So again, I didn't watch the first few episodes 'cause you weren't on it. So there was a win to watch it by what they get to the beach house and club whatever and start dating like y'all in love like the first day like love at first sight Cooper weird. So I got a week late. So they had only been there a week. Yes. Oh week. What is the bachelor? I know come on up, and I'm like neutral. So I'm introducing myself. And he's like, oh, that's my girlfriend, Sarah, and I was like week girlfriend. I was like did, you know her like before the show like maybe they came on together from him? And he's like, oh, no I met her here. And I'm like way. Got on for six days. You're in love with her and your dating her like you sound stupid. Oh my God. I've never like people say all the time. Like, I've fall hard and quick and whatever, but I'm like other than rob. Which was I don't even like saying his name like I'm like who else? Like the adamant I think it was like a year and a half in the making. And since then I'm like, I've not dated anyone. I'm still single. So I'm just like I could never date someone for that little amount of time not short of time and like call them my boyfriend weird. Reality TV, like it's your first show ever. Yeah. And you're going to get there and like be in a relationship after a week to me. That's crazy. Yeah. You're talking crazy right now. Tony. But I loved how you just like stirred the pot like just so subtly and just like that back near just like standing there watching this shit, go down. I think that's part of the reason why Brent hated me so much is because like he loved sang like I'm just stirring, the pot, and he would say that out loud to us and in my head. I'm like, you sound stupid first of all because who says that and he didn't end up getting that pot stirring at it. He just looks like a douchebag. Whereas like, I didn't even have to say out loud that I'm starting the pod. But behind the scenes, I really am. And I'm sitting there giggling to myself as people are looking stupid, and I'm getting the pots during that he wanted. Right. You know, and it's like he just went about it the completely wrong way. But then again, I had a huge advantage because I've been on reality TV before he didn't know how that shit worked. But I know what you're doing the game gonna make good TV. Yeah. And they were all so boring like in the nicest way possible, I couldn't. Stand. How boring they were. And that's why I think so I think originally when MTV called me to go to that show. I think that they wanted me to go in house, and cause all these problems with all of the house guys. They ended up being really cool people most of them except for brand like normal people like to a fault like super-normal. So I ended up causing problems with Lindsay instead because she was the least normal person I've ever met. I don't think that they had expected that. But yeah, it was pretty weird being in a houseful of normal people. Yeah. To go from like, our Taiba crazy show their actual psychos seasoned that psychos that have been doing this for some of them fifteen year. How long is Razi bananas been on the show. I would rather not speak his name. I know that you're friends with him, but fucked I mean, no, I wouldn't say friends like watered up live together and we've been trying to get him on against, but our schedules haven't matched up the because I want to ask him. Feud. I hate him feud. It's just I just don't like the guy lake generally nothing redeeming about him yet. But he's a dick for no reason. Most of the time like I've never had a problem with him. And he's in all of his interviews talking shit about me for what like what did I ever do to you it? It's annoying. That's what I want to get him on the show because I want to like be like what the fuck is your problem with Kayla? I know well, and it's weird because LeRoy who was supposed to be here today, but was too hung over to come. Yeah. Best friend and Leroy's, my best friend. So I'm like, what's your issue with me, like, I'm friends with your friend? Yeah. Like what I don't know. I, you know, my dad always told me that sometimes you can't understand crazy, and you shouldn't want to and that's one of those situations. That's so true. That's a good point. Yeah. Shadow dad. Good advice. Okay. So back to me where were you is that where you were knows which was beautiful. I wanted to go. Visit you when you were out there. Gunfire. Too quick. I was like going to Iceland around the same time. Okay. So you told me this story months ago when I was here drunk, and I don't remember my mom asked me the other day. She was like, wait. So like, I know Kayla gets fired. But like what happened? And I was like she told me she's like, she knew you don't listen when people talking like, no mom, I was engaged in the story at the time. I just forgot the next day everything she said, no, I don't remember what I said either. So. Okay. So tell me now what happened God, I don't even know where to start like I could this story of me getting fired. I could write a book about it. And it all happened within a day or two. So how long were you there? Total six days, you were only thirty six. Oh my God. On what like five episodes? Episode for every day that I'm there we what was out to production on that one thing you really ain't writing. Now, you're really spread me out on that one. Okay. Wait, what was longer when you got disqualified from Las challenge or low hand it was about the same. I was only there on the challenge for one day when I got kicked off. Yes. But traveling traveling and then once I got kicked off they sequestered me for like two days. So it ended up being about a week. Okay. And I got kicked up the challenge and it ended up being about a week and a half. No we and they're back to back shows. So I'm just lying all over the world just to come back home. Oh, we got the torture. Okay. So you were in Greece for less than a week. Yes. Did Mike even make it out there to see you know, 'cause I got fired too quick keeps happening. Why did you get five? Well, or how I wanna know. I know it's so hard to explain because she didn't fire someone who like karate chops chicken the throat. But like, yeah. But then well, honestly didn't know what that was going to play out like on camera or what they were gonna use or whatever. Now looking back. It seems like they kind of had to stretch for a reason which I knew in the in the moment that that was what was probably going to happen because her actual reasons were so bizarre. But it just honestly came down to our rooms being messy. I guess, but why I don't I don't know. It's so weird now hard to take serious, but messy rooms those people were literally like throwing each other's closed and pushing each other and spilling drinks. And ultimately just wanted to fire me the thing about Lindsay, Lohan and. How do I put this? He doesn't like women who challenge her. Yes. She's probably the most insecure person I've ever met and me coming there and kind of speaking up to her. I don't think she really appreciated that we used to people kissing her off and bowing down to her. Not standing up a. Yeah. She's she's definitely surrounded by. Yes men. She definitely doesn't have any friends in real life. Which is sad. It's sad. It is. But I mean, she does it to herself. Like, how can you really feel sorry for someone who pushes away? Anything that strong around her like, and I saw that with my own. I was only there for six days. And I I'm a pretty good read of people, and that's what I took from the situation. So yeah. I don't know. Because obviously, you guys are listening in the future. And this is the past. I don't know everything that's going to be on the road. That's coming up next week. Yeah. I've only seen bits and pieces of it. And I definitely know that they're gonna show a conversation with me. And my dad I saw myself on the phone. I don't know what all they're gonna show of that conversation. But in the moment, I was fed up. I was like I don't want to be here anymore. I just wanna go home. I don't know if that's what they're gonna show of me saying on the show or what? But that was what the actual conversation was. And my dad pretty much said you don't ever let people talk bad to you in real life. Like, why are you gonna let Lindsey Lowe hand treat you like shit like, yeah. Stand up to her don't ever let anyone walk all over you. And in that moment. I was like, you know, what you're right like I'm just going to say how I really feel because I always do. Anyway, of course. So jobs. Because we're annoying. Exactly. Wait. Remember saying this last night, we're out we're like, we're friends because we're both so annoying. Oh, annoy voices, the annoying tendency. Eight us allowed. So annoying. Yeah. By you know, what people still watch us. They do. They're listening right now. And I appreciate it. And I love all of you servings probably a love hate thing. That's the thing. And so a couple of months ago, Danny Pellegrino. He's like a big just at his podcast. Good. Okay. He's so cool. You come shit underneath all of Lindsay's PO and I'd die every time. So I still need to do his show. But he did mine a couple of months ago, and he was I had listened to a couple of his that he did about van in front berlitz. And he said that ninety nine point nine percent of the viewers hate me so much so me was like, wow. Like ninety nine point nine don't give me one pers-. Now, you're going to be a and I was just like, and then I was thinking about it. And so I was like I'm going to call him out. I'm going to ask him. And he was like shook I think that like I actually called him out. And he was like, no, no, I'm just like. You're basically the one people like love to hate like you're the person who everyone can like talk shit about unlike like come together about this. Thank you. Thank you know, thing I should move. I should move that a compliment or I don't. But then I saw I coined this on the real world. I call that accomplish this out of a compliment. Instead of a backhanded compliment this like that start using you should you should bring banner bub. Ooh. Hey, if there's a season, we're going to call it. By I was thinking about it. And I was like, wait. I think that's kind of true like. Like. I lean obviously like we all still have our fans there's team Kahlo. There's teams Sheena like there are people who are. So like anti-stalking anti-banda is an anti whoever. But I was like we. But I really think like even like photos that I post like there's so much negativity that I'm like, I mean, thank you for following me because I had a million last year which was like a goal, and so awesome. But I'm like, why are you following me? If you hate me so much, I know just to like does it make you feel better? They wake up and comment that like, oh, you're interested. Oh, you're this. Oh, you're that. Oh, you're pathetic. Like, they're so miserable life that they feel like bringing you down is going to make them feel better. And that's fine. Whatever if that makes you feel better. But at the end of the day, you're still commenting on my shit. I'm like an oh. So like my song, you know, came out a couple of weeks ago better without you. And I knew that this. Let's let's go back to Brian. He's like Sheena song is terrible. Do not release it. I'm telling you this adds, your friend. He's like, I'm not just saying this because I'm like Rob's my boy, the like, it's bad. And I was like I don't care I go. Here's the thing. I like I don't take myself seriously in that sentence like in like a relationship or family, you're like personal things. Like, of course, I take myself seriously, but like with music and the television shows and all that I don't take myself seriously. So I don't expect anyone else to like, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a Grammy nominated award winning singer. I can't thing. Well, aware of that listen to my voice right now raspy as fuck like, I know I can't sing. But I enjoy being in a studio like I enjoy performing. I mean, you know, I like being the center of attention shocker, and it's fun. So into yourself, you know, I'm just so self absorbed. So, but it's like, it's just fun. And I love doing music. So I put this song out, and I knew people were going to hate. But then it's like I have those fans who love the the. Comment. Yeah. Oh my God. This is such a bop. Like, we love it. And it's like it's catchy. It kind of gets stuck in your head. But I'm like again, not doing this to in a fucking Grammy. But the people who were commenting that it was bad still, listen, that's what I said. So this is what I was gonna say. So like people on Twitter like this, terrible and ida's responded. Thanks for listening. Know same thing with my podcast like if people talk show, thank you for listening. Like, I don't I don't know what to say like, you're still listening. So I'm doing something. Right. I may be doing a lot of things wrong. But I'm still doing something. Right. Yeah. Even with TV it's like, they talk shit. But it's like you're still watching show that I'm on sitting on your couch. And it's remember that it's a show. Yeah. It's a television show at a TV show age hill, how for entertainment purposes. Yes. Imagine if we weren't annoying. What would there be to watch? Right. If everyone coup by circles, but that's the thing to with like James, for example, like on our show. It's like the majority of the cast like I would say ninety percent of the cab point nine percent. But then there's many Tom Arianna like Billy, Adam like if you count like everyone, but it's like the majority of the cast hates him like literally hate them. But it's like you need that person on the show. He's for entertainment value to hate the villain. Yeah. There's always the villain. There's always the he'll like everyone needs that. Because if there wasn't then who is there you're going to be rooting for the same people over you have to have some sort of conflict in order to make a TV show. Yes. And without conflict. What is there? It's show called friends that was canceled in the nineties, which is an amazing show. But that's what it is reality. It's no scripted sitcom in the nineties like reality TV, you need that shit. I know you need an annoying girl to come in. And they got him that she sucks. Yeah. Knowing girl to think she can say. But I will say so going back to price. Then him. I name this podcast. Bryce vine episode. His mind. My next song that hasn't been out yet, which I wrote about a certain someone knocking to say here, but it's like an arm be like very just like a baby making music, you know, the one more time song, and he was like, okay. This is better. It's like, okay. Thank you, not that. I need your approval, but I'm like, I just. You know, a little bit by that'll be out soon. So lookout on idea and anyways, okay, I need another. I know so. We get a server in here. Come one of your goals. Get us a drink, please. Yeah. Okay. So tonight. Oh my God. We've got another full night ahead of us. We're going to go to hustler are you coming and soda. Please soda splash Cran poor full full-bore. Thank you. Are you coming to hustle with us tonight? How don't know? I've never been. I know. And I forgot that. There was dudes there, dude. I yeah. I didn't know that. I completely naked. I don't know. But we're gonna find out or Mikey's, sending us limo. You work. Yes. No. We're going to Mikey for us. The other Mikey Mikey p in Vegas who used to be in Chippendales. Do they still have his picture outside of the Hillary? Oh, no. It's not the airport anymore. No. You know, what the real that? Like huge like two hundred foot tall one of them. I wonder but. But. Yeah. Him on in the airport recently. But maybe I'm wrong some of them. I think still have him. Wait, I heard Vinnie. He's Jose Chippendales. Yeah. What's which is so weird? Because I mean, don't hate me for saying those I know that he is a good personality under the shore. But I've met him in real life. And I don't think that he has that much personality same ounce. So I was like do you hate me? Like, literally, I've only sucks he's I don't want to be like asshole. I don't wanna say flat blanket as like Pauline. I were our avenue one night and LA and Vinnie was there, and he like Bali was like introducing me to him. And he was just like who is like he was to meet to he was dick. Yeah. And it's like I see him on TV. And I'm like that's a whole different person that I love the show like he's one of my favorite so funny on the show in real life of met him twice. Yeah. And he's treated me the same way twice as if I'm like Sobhani him, and he had way too cool. And I. Whatever anyways. But he's also Chippendale. So I'm very interested to see how that plays out. I'm going to have to fly back out here and just go John over there shaking. This hug them from the front row. Oh my God. I felt up to my podcast from Chippendale. My god. I sell out show. So yeah, we definitely I need to check this out. Okay. Now that we're on the jersey shore topic. What is going on is is it's here Ronnie's? Okay. What is going on with? What can you? Ever since is like bad timing because my keys with Ronnie right now. Okay. I'm going to have all the dish like our? But but I don't know for the last like a month like what is going on? He went to rehab. So he's sober right now. Good. Okay. The last I heard he wanted to move away from Vegas. But I don't know if that means him in Jenner done. I don't know if that means I don't know what that means. But he says that all the time and getting back together, you just never know with him. And then she runs into car. And it's like what the fi think it would be best for him to just get the fuck out of here is not a good place to be sober and trying to like live like, no, no for sure not especially not close to her like if you want. I think that personally not that I make the best life decisions. But if I were to be in a therapist on right now, I would be like you need to get away from her and move out of here. Yeah. Like across the country. Yes. Like far far away who knows? Ron is. He's going to do his own thing. Yeah. Always has ever since. I got that crazy talks from her. I've never reached ago. Dude. I like wake up one morning, and I've this like long tax from my go random like seven hundred number whatever. And it was like this is gen and like I was like my heart was raising. I was like she scary. And I'm like, oh my God. He was just like Ronnie came over. He's like not have nothing happened. We watched the finale of inner bumper wools we later played cards against you to play. What do you mean? Yeah. So we're playing cards against humanity. And then we did some snapshots than seven is it cool if I both and he's like, yeah. Post like, I don't care. He was in such about mood that he was in such a bad moves. Oh, my God like pink q. Oh, yeah. What did you? Did you show them today's? Yeah. Would you do? You know, Kohl's is amazing. I wish you guys could see that. Okay. So we don't know what's going on with them. No. I mean, I'll know later. I'll text you about it. Okay. Maybe I'll tell you guys about it next week. All right. Let's say we've talked of we we still need to go to. Why you got fires? Got we need those details. Reheat by Jesus. So hard for me because it's such a long weird awkward story it. Okay. Let me start from the beginning. Okay. See this is what happens when you drink doing shenanigans literally during genetic ins are getting the whole versed inside scoop on this because I was planning on making a whole YouTube video about my experience, and I've probably still because I have a different audience in the next week and a half two weeks. We can do a swipe up to this to go and watch it just to hear me say all over again on YouTube on the future. So weird. I'm like thinking ahead anyways long story short. She locked me in a bathroom one day in a shower on a yacht. Wait, wait. What Lindsay Lohan walked you in a shower on a yacht them in the moment. It was very weird because I've watched. Lindsay Lohan on TV for a very long time since parents, John. And then all of a sudden, I'm in a shower with her. Your inner sour with Lindsay Lohan. Yes, we were. You naked. No thing. Like, if she told me to get naked in the moment, you what I would've I would've if Lindley Leandro again Oga, I don't think I would wanna see her naked body at this point because I would do. Jackson seen it. Dude. Her Jackson to being down back in the day. She okay, wait. She's she told people that he was lying about that. See I think I do not like, I don't believe that. I think that I think she just doesn't remember? But the fact that he doesn't remember that's bad. Yeah. Because then it's like, I think that definitely happened. And the fact that Jags lies about a lot of show. But like why wait why would you lie about like she doesn't even look good right now? Lena, brag about and I've talked to his friends about it. Who were like there that night like shit it happens? Oh, that's awesome. Okay. Anyways, your inner shower with Lindsay Lohan. So in a shower Lindsey, and it was I mean, as you could imagine pretty fucking awkward. And so I didn't have much to say to her. Because what the fuck you say to Lindsay? Lohan Weiner, standing in a shower with. Shower too. Like, it's very small. Go flashback like two years or like a year. I had gotten kicked off of the challenged like usual, and I was I was in Colombia with my really good friend Jenna. She's also on the challenge, we got kicked off together guy. And so we're hanging on Columbia is really long fucking drawn out story. But long story short two years ago. I met Lindsey Lowe his brother in Columbia. Okay. Nothing. Crazy. He was on his bachelor party. Did you took up? No, no, no. He's out. No, no, no. You drink with him. I was dating Mikey. Okay. But I did drink because we on a beach in Columbia. Hey, he bought us jet skis. So we like went jet skiing. He'd bought you a jetski not like. Friends. We're like jet skiing, whatever so we're like jet skiing in Columbia with Lindsay Lohan brother, nothing happened. But in the moment when I'm standing in the shower with her, that's all I could think. Oh my God. Because I have nothing else to relate to her about. Yeah. Literally nothing. So your inner shower with her and you're like, hey, so one time once upon a time two years ago in Columbia, your brother, mother jetski ride to sorta would tell you that. To initiate brother to say. Because what do you say? Why are we into showers, but I would say why were you in the shower? What how did you get this hour? Don't fucking though. It's Lindsay Lohan does anything make sense. No. She leaked dragged me in in meet me go in with her. It was so heared fully clothed or invading. I had my work baiting like work beating like, hey Kayla. Come get in the shower with me. We're just going to stand there and the water running. What was she wearing shoes? Was wearing like a wet suit type thing. Please tell me on one of the episode like I need to watch no camera. Roll my God. This is even better. Okay. So behind this. When I got out of the ship or productions like what does happen? And I'm like, honestly, I don't know. So she's saying the what suit the whole time she changed out of the wetsuit like right out. So you did see her naked. I didn't see her naked. I left the room. Okay. Okay. Anyways. That's she says Kayla. Let's get in the shower. And you're like, okay. By the way, your brother got me a jet ski. And then. Exactly how it went down. Then nothing else to say. So I'm standing there. I tell her that I met her brother once and she was like, oh my God. No way small world. Crazy, like, whatever. Yeah. We get out. She tells everyone. Oh my God. She met my brother ones. And I was like, okay. So that played out. Well, thank God. Are you like lathering each other up with soap? Sexual but it sounds really sexual. It's anyways. So I tell her that I didn't think anything of it and flash forward when I'm getting fired. She I got us in the moment in the shower with pissed that I said that even though she acted like she wasn't about her brother jetski when she was firing me one of the things she said was don't ever talk about my family? You're so disrespectful. What you didn't even think anything about him? I know. Wow. So really, I don't know the full reason why she fired me, but that was one of them. Oh, also another thing he has talked about her brother in the shower with her. I was just trying to relate to you. Getting fired because of that. And then another reason was because so the first day that I was working at the beach club. The two weird show picturing. That's right now is this my life likely low hand into to Kayla little block bikini, just Jimmy shower together talking about her brother, and then she had like your fire. To and I had to go back to work. So I was trying to get my face wet. She kept telling me to take my makeup off. And I'm like, no, I don't know. Fucking weird laser was your makeup, a not your bathing suit. That would have been more weird. So that happened. And then also another thing she said while she was firing me was because on the very first day when we were at the beach club saw her. Sitting with. I don't even know who the person was I guess, maybe a friend even though she doesn't really have those and I'll be your final. No, you won't. So she's sitting there with whoever and there was no cameras around. But it was my fucking. I say, I don't know how the work, right? So as normal thinking human being. I went up to her. And I was like, hi, I'm the new ambassador. My name's Kayla. Just wanted to introduce myself. I think that's a normal thing to do. Right. And respectable thing to do. I'll never forget her face. Like she turned around like, and it was almost like a scared. Look like it was super like and she's just like high and then like put her hand kind of. And I was like all right. Well, that was weird. And she put it out for you like to Kim lake Lake Mary like like a fake accent. Yeah. The whole time they. It was very strange very strange, and like whenever and I you know, me being me, I'm an asshole. So like whenever people would get back from like meetings with her. I was just always roasting here. Just because I could and they'd be like, oh, I just got back from talking to Lindsay, and they're all serious. And I'd be like did she do it in her regular accent? Or did she do it in her like fake axe? Oh my God. Yes. Anyways. I know one person like that where it's like, I'm like, wait. You were American yesterday. Not you're British like, wait. Why stoop? Yeah. Accents weird to can't. It's not real. So I just did Stephanie Pratt's podcast Hearn wells from the bachelorette do a show together. And she was in London. So it was like just she's on the phone. And then I'm in the studio with wells. And I was like wait when oh, I guess she's been living there for a while. But I was like we wondered she got an accent. You don't hit up and accent like that unless he's like, I pick up accidents really easily. So like when I'm talking to Brittany like all of a sudden like. Lisa sometimes, I'm British. But like, I'm like doing stuff, and you pause podcast. And I was like, wait, you're like British. But then chewed like sounded like totally like OC, and then she was British. And then it was like totally oh Lindsay as vacuum forth. It's really weird. Yeah. Accidents not like it's not like a British accent. It's not it's almost like rushing kind of. But like it sounds like it's like derived from real housewives of Beverly Hills, which I know you don't watch. It's like it's like a mix of really weird very strange when she's actually talking to you in real life with that AXA. It's so hard to like actually listen to what she's saying. I'm just focusing on the fact that she's talking in a weird accent. Anyway. So as she's firing me another thing aside from that, I met her brother wants she said was that I was disrespectful for talking to her off camera on the first day. And I was like that is like I was just trying to be nice. You know, that's fucking thing to do would be like, hey, I'm the new about either. She was intimidated by you, just like I need to get this bitch off the show because she's going to take it over. And then it's going to be more about you. Did you hear what I did to her? No, oh my God. So right before I had any of my episodes, come on the days leading up. I started this hashtag Kayla beach club. Just 'cause I thought it was funny. Yeah. So I went on Instagram live, and I there's not that many people in there. Maybe like a couple of hundred nothing crazy, but I left it up for a couple of hours inside saved it. I don't know how many people ended up seeing. But I told everyone go over to lindsays page and on her newest picture, hashtag Caleb beach club. Oh my God. Like three hundred Kayla beach club comments on it. And then she ended up deleting the picture. She's like again, delete Komen. He's going to archive this. In that moment. I felt like such a troll like what trolls due to me. Right. It was such an accomplished feeling of you. Yeah. You gotta shower together. And then she fired. No, it was such a good shower too. But yes, so I don't even know. And then another reason was because I told people that I wanted to take their jobs. I don't know. I just was saying whatever because why I I just want to piss people off. So like, I'm here to take your job like just bullshitting with people. And that was another reason was boring without you. So I don't know what they expect. I think I think we should have a off Kayla beach club. The I think I like, okay. So I've got a bunch of questions on Instagram for you. Oh, I figured you got like a million the fucker friends with our. Yeah. How did you friends if you had your own TV show? What would it be called Caleb twelve club? Obviously. And she she mannequins accurate. Be the other former Hobie far every night is having people's ears bleed. Hey, at least I am self fucking aware. I'm self deprecating. I'm self aware. I am not trying to be a singer. I know I can't think for shit that's like shadow to Lalla Iago. You're the butter singer on the show. You are as Inger. I am not. I am a performer. Like, exactly, okay. Let's see. How does Kayla feel about how Katie was so rude to her call her tacky on Twitter? Do you? Remember that was so uncalled for like, I don't know what I have against wedges. But I just have something against wedges still Arianna posted a photo or you posted a photo. I okay. So I think I tweeted out and I've come to correct myself. I guess wedges can be okay in Beechy situations. And I'm okay with it. Or if you're working pool party in vague. I was more. So talking about when girls wear like the old wedges that are like black, and then they wear them to a club in Vegas. I just think they're out like that's all I was trying to say. Yeah. So and whatever I can have an opinion. I'm. To not like wedges. So I said that and then Arianna tweeted me back. I was like, oh, but I found these wedges I want them, and I wrote her back, and I was like they are really cute like whatever by them. I don't care, right. And and I love Arianna. So whatever Arianna you could pull off wedges all you fucking love anything anything like a shaved head. She would stay exactly I know. It's crazy. So then Katie for whatever reason, I've never even met. Katie. I don't even know Katie I've never even watched banner pump roles. I literally don't know her at all. I don't even remember what she said. But she was like, she don't don't listen to this girl. She's. Blue hair, Brian. Me. I know. And then what's his name REM, his brother? Jeremy, jeremy. Oh ya. I'm like we like her. We're good not gonna call her bitch. No, I just did. Anyway. I did not want me. I know that sounds similar. But that was not me. About your time on that challenge. Fuck I dunno challenges fun in general, just like travelling and the competition aspect like winning stuff is fun because like, you know, as an adult when you ever get a chance to like compete and winch it. Yeah. You know? So that's doing all the challenges is always fun for me. What was harder to film Lohan beach house or the challenge? Low ham beach house probably just because I felt so uncomfortable and and going into like a group that's already been established. Even granted it was only like what? Yes as. All off. The thing about like. The challenge is super not scripted like fucking all they you can be yourself. You can it doesn't matter conversations. You have. They don't set anything up. Nothing is set up him beach is a little bit more produced. Okay. Probably more. So like how you're probably used to things being produced on vendor pump. It's not a bad thing. It's not scripted. It's not scripted. But they set up situations. Like, you're gonna go to dinner with this person. Right. You know what? I'm here's your time. I'm not used to that. So for me adjusting from the challenge to something that's more produce was really hard for me. Yeah. Like, I just was not used to it all Lindsey wanted y'all to do anything for the VIP's. How did that make you feel? Lindsay didn't make me do shit shower with her. That one romantic shower, we had that one time. Oh, say what else? Do we got? She was the kind of pipping people out like before I got there. Yeah. I dunno super weird shout out to Brooklyn underscore Flynn. You sending a lot of questions spill the Tian Panos pornos Panos with. I hate that guy. Dude. I fucking hate that. I hate his eyebrows. I just might God, hyper out, it's terrible or so bad. And he's like, I don't know who he thinks is like he's on Twitter trying to make me like, look, I don't even know. I don't even know what I'm gonna loss for words because I can't stand like so much. Yeah. Like don't try and put me down. Right. You just work for Lindsey like get out of here. Yeah. I can't stand that shit. I hate when people like look down on other people, and he's one of those anytime I asked for questions this person at London blokes always has ever been with the block guy. They literally got this question every time like sending questions for nemo from south of sunset ever been with the blog. I'm. Yes. Last week. Does it? Make you jealous that Jonah and ninety how you say your name or super close. Oh, not at all everyone thinks like Jenin iron friends anymore because she's friends with ninety nine hundred have always been friends. We have always been friends ninety is going to be in Vegas in like a week. She's willing to party wanting to party. So now, I'm not jealous about at all. And he's really good friends with LeRoy. So do you ever hear from your old real world? Roommates trying to get on the challenge. No side. Dentin done. Let's say do one more which one will it be? Okay. I don't know what this is going an ask you are you glad you got to experience adult summer camp at camp. No counselors how. Yeah, we what does that tell me? It's exactly what is adult summer. It was so much freaking one was this. Couple of months ago, Mikey. And so it wasn't in the summer. Older summer camp in the winter. During during summer. That's when the kids are there actually take over summer camps like more on like the off season of summer can. Yeah, they let adults go, and you do all the stuff that the kids do, but there's alcohol. Okay. It was so fun fun. We like we had a great time. We had a cabin all to our south. There was like twenty beds in there and just for me and my key. That's how it sounds like like retreat that I went on like in high school. I was so fun. Yeah. Exactly. What it sounds like it was so don't. All right. Well, we got to wrap this out because we gotta get to dinner. I gotta get to hustler. We have a limo waiting for us and strippers and all sorts of Vegas. We're going to get into some shenanigans. And we got an a Colin Geno over here like already they're ready to go get more alive. All right. Well, it appears that this recorded. It says fifty eight minutes still going could you imagine these girls got a lot of videos of us? But like, I mean, all right. I think I did a good job on my first on the road. Again. I think he did great recorded. You did gre-. All right. 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"Donald show here on ESPN LA. The great Michael wilbon is here, of course, PTI each and every weekday to thirty here on the west coast on ESPN and Matt Barnes joins us in studio, again, great to have you here brother to be here. Preciado it. So we were just talking Michael. And I about just kind of how you found out all this happened with magic Mike goes on the tarmac basically just landed. Where were you? When all this thing was the I'm gonna UCLA group chat that we're just talking about everything you can ever imagine Earl Watson put magic John stepping down on my year. Right. Okay. See gay, and then turn on Twitter, and it's all over the place. I it was utter utter shock. Yeah. It wouldn't believable. It was wild show. We were talking about now or teased about how you know. What's next? Right. So genius has a lot of decisions to make Ramona Shelburne was in here earlier on the show previous to our saying that it looks like Pelinka's gonna stay and just by default. He may gain more power Michael do you think that's a good move. I think that's a result base move. We're going to look back on it and decide what it was based on whether or not it advances the team, you know, I mean, rob. I don't know that Robin. Magic were all that familiar with each other personally when genie more or less put this together and people wondered about it. I wanted about only this part of and I've known rob from backwards plan. College basketball, right. I wondered about having to people who hadn't done each respective thing. There's no experience. Yeah. Yeah. And so I I wondered about that. And now, you just wonder, okay? Is that going to keep LeBron happy? It is LeBron going to be okay with that. And what are they going to do about the coaching position? If his true, the genie really was in favour is in favor of Luke Walton going anywhere. If if that if that story line is applicable okay now now what how is LeBron with that? And as we were talking, you know, there's competition throughout the league for recruiting free agents. There's competition in the building or you, and they may be a step ahead. So you have to look at all of those factors in determining whether or not this is going work. I it's going to be it seemed like we like, you touched on, you know, novice to the to the profession, you know, to the job, which rob is, you know, been hearing mixed things about whether him imagine got along or not with backstabbing and all these other things that are swirling around. But to me, I think you need to find someone with experience in that position. You know, this is not, you know, a small. Market team. This is not a, you know bottom of this is the Lakers. It's not a starter job. Right. Yeah. I mean, so you need someone who's been there done that. And you know, my being would obviously I come to mind, you think Jerry West, Pat Riley. But you need a big name to come in there. That knows what he's doing and kind of restore order someone that will lure Rama spec and listen to and some of the kind of get the ban Mak and order because it's a mess over there right now, you know, I've been favor. I said this yesterday on sportscenter of you know, I said the first call I would make is David Griffin. First of all people have been suggesting called Bob Myers and call Neil O'Shea Griffin. He's not working, right? That's the thing. Is that Griffin? You don't have to Paul anybody. Call Davison, right? You don't need permission. I do think though, you mentioned Pat Riley. And I listen I've known Pat a time I spent a lot of years there. He's always dreamed of going back to Malibu right now, this notion that he would retire and go back to Malibu, I don't think ever was something that would actually happen. I've actually talked to people who've coached for him or whatever. And they're like, yeah. That's never going to happen. It's going to coach he's going to die in the seat, basically. But to be able to potentially, and again, I'm just speculating comeback here where it all started for him to be able to kind of close it out and he's made amends with weight. He's made amends with Bosch. She's made amends with shack to make amends with LeBron and kind of forge themselves together. Again, one last time. I do think it's something we shouldn't rule out is all I would say what's my question about that is I the scenario you painted George is. Totally foreseeable. What I wonder is Pat pet spent almost as much time in my in longer than anywhere else. Then the Knicks Lakers combined. Okay. So now, I just I I got a chance to talk to Pat Riley at the Dwayne Wade roast the all star had the all star weekend. And he just seemed so comfortable with his life. And that's probably not a word use comfortable. I mean, if I use that ten twenty years ago, Pat with a called me up. But you know, it's like magic like like I've thought no one even as long as I have. I just thought he has a great life young like the dated. He we're working in a studio the day that he was going to call genie buses Sam, I'm in right? And I just thought okay. This is I'm glad for him. I'm happy for him. But he's got a great life leaving a great life is hard. You know, does Pat does Pat one at this point of his life. Does he wanna stay? It's almost start over even though it's bigger place. So I don't know I and you gotta do that. He's still got to have somebody else. Pats pats on the oversee and he's not going. He's got to bring someone with him. Look the Juwan Howard rumors were out there. And he's on his staff. Sure, you know, like that some of that stuff could make some sense. And if I'm LeBron to your point, Matt, I do I want rob Pelinka guy was a novice running the show when I've only got you know, the clock is ticking. I've only got a couple of years or do I want someone that I've worked with that? I have area with that. I know can potentially get to a championship and David Griffin and Pat Riley v. That moment, you know, what's unfortunate about this whole situation is the Lakers had the type of talent if they were allowed to develop two three four years. It would be insane. You know? But this is a show me what what have you done lately and show me the money now situation, so the they're blowing up what I think is a good thing. You know, you already lost de ngelo and he's an all star leading team to the playoffs. Julius random Julius Randle in over a New Orleans had a career year amazing year. You lost a young kid to to the clippers. Right. You know what? I mean. So Zubaydah's, right. The game up for Mike Mestalla man, who might have been bought out pieces going left, and right, but they're talented pieces. It's just unfortunate that they're on such a timeframe with LeBron in this stages career, and what their what their expectations are that. They don't have time to try and develop the same because the very talented core. The funny thing about Zubaydah not to sidetrack for too long, but the athletic reported that sources close to them that they felt that the reason that Moscow is on this team. And they traded zoo bots, which you didn't need to treat zoo butts, again Scala he could have been bought out potentially at that point. 'cause he wasn't getting much planes. I'm was that he lit up the Lakers for seventeen points three three pointers and they're like oh stretch five around LeBron. Right. That guy. I mean, he just didn't have he doesn't have a lot left. It feels like even though he's younger than you would think. But it's those kind of moves that one that stuff starts to get reported by credible. People. So you're like, ooh. I'm so glad to hear Matt say this somebody who has has played every conceivable circumstances understands building right? Because I look I love Anthony Davis, and I'm even predisposed to like him more than perhaps I shouldn't because he's Chikako guy. Like, I am. So I'm biased in favor of Anthony Davis. But man when they kept talking about basically breaking up an entire team. Couldn't believe it. Okay. So I'm see I'm I feel indicating much to me. I mean, Anthony Davis is a is a is a transitional franchise type once in a generation type player, but he hasn't proven. He can stay healthy over a consistent amount of time. But at the same time, you're giving up your entire core. Plush draft picks in not to say that Anthony Davis and LeBron aren't enough in the west anyway, right? You're going to give up everything for these two guys. And then who's you know, who the waterboy is gonna play the, you know, who else is gonna come in and fill these you're going to have to continue to do the million dollar bet minimums and the situation, so it's a tough situation. But you know, I I don't think either. Us alot, Michael. And we said man, that's a lot to give up. Anthony davis. Lastly here because my go, you gotta run met you. And I talked about Luke Walton the last time you were here. And we were just like, I think you had mentioned that maybe there was a lack of respect for Luke as a player that kind of alluded to some of this stuff, especially when you see the uprising of a guy like, Michael Beasley was barely been playing challenging loop. It almost feels like he's got this eleventh hour reprieve now, right potentially. I mean, I thought he was going to be a casualty award. You know? I know Luke's basketball mind is amazing. Like, I said we played on the same time with the Lakers and the way him and feel conversations you knew post basketball career, you know, Luke was heading to coaching. So I just think Luke got thrown a hell of a situation and with time, you know, him being develop a be able to develop his team it coulda worked out. But like I said, it's it's something that has to happen right now. And is it Luke's fault? Not by any means. But is he gonna stay is another question because now Magic's gone and everything I was hearing a magic one and Luke an rob gone now that magic has. Sean do both of them say that really says a lot about the outside situation. Like, okay, what really was going on if magical on both these guys to go in magic is on the ends up leaving both these guys stay, Michael. What do you make of Luke? Interesting. I got to know little better the Golden State time because I became an everyday situation for those of us who were covering a historic teen new Luke before that. But. I I was just impressed by his his, you know, it's easy to say basketball IQ, but more importantly than that Luke's ability as a young man to deal with personalities and maybe deal with guys older. There's a whole UCLA group that that that Matt has been in part played with knows those guys. Like, I I was disappointed that URL Watson wasn't hired as you said. Yeah. For sure. Earl is one of those cats who. Yeah. Like, people nationally don't know or watch Steve last should save live in was on here yesterday and said he was just said the same thing he's stunned that he wasn't. And that's part of that. There's a intellect there's a socialization there's understanding of basketball, historically, and part of that. When you when you UCLA the history of basketball is part of you. And so Luke is clearly a part of that. And he's got the double play with his father having grown up in it and being comfortable around comfortable and lockers, I'm just a Luke Walton fan. And so, you know, that's another one, by the way, you mean UCLA couldn't find the way to hire. Either. Lou you could call Luke's agents say I'll know what's going on next week. And maybe you don't wanna come to. 'cause maybe you want to stay in the NBA, but between Earl and Luke man, I just impressed by by by the group of guys from UCLA and loop specifically and what he won. Up somewhere quickly. Yeah. Stay if it's not a long shot for him to stay now. I mean, he should just keep playing volleyball Manhattan beach for a year and get paid like I think that's what he should do. And then he can figure out what he wants to do Mike on there. You gotta run. Thank you so much always an honor. And a pleasure. Thank you, gentlemen. From one legend to another Bill Plaski will join us MATT BAHR stick around. We'll talk to Bill and just a moment. Donna show ESPN LA sit down and show here on ESPN LA. Thanks to the great Michael wilbon for joining us there. Bill Plaski will join us in a second. Matt Barnes in the house. Ben Lyons in the house. Yeah. Who quit who no one quit knowing working over there, though, mad Brian is still on a great point during the break. We were talking about you know, everything that's going on in this league. Like poor D Wade in Dirk thirty points in their last home game. And then it's like magic drops the bomb, and it's like page two for those guys fighting for that eight spot. It is. It was all it's magic on the front page, and I get it. I get it. You know? It's it's magic. Yeah. It is absolutely crazy. Let's talk to Bill Plaski the legend from the LA times. ESPN check them out on around the horn. Joining us here on the Sodano show on ESPN LA Bill. Matt Barnes is here with me and Ben Lyons as well. You were there like what was your reaction during all of this? My guess is you were there for Luke. And then magic just stepped in. I'm so old. I covered met Barnes when played at UCLA. Bill. How're you doing? No, I I was standing there waiting ill lukagip spacious press conference. Magic walks over at east, and he looked at me czar on my shoulder, and he says, yeah, we'll built here because they're gonna have a press conference and everybody laughs, and he said, no really I'm having a press conference and the Lakers Laker people like what? Against the wall. 'cause I'm quitting. I mean, it just happened like that it'd be it was never seen anything more shocking. And all my all my time, you know, covering the Lakers. I mean, I was there when Kobe Bryant put, you know, in Veneta Kobe admitted his adultery with Vanessa. But at least that was scheduled press conference. Sunning in would you know, very disappointing. Magic choice to do it in this fashion. And you know, he didn't tell you. And he didn't tell anybody with the Lakers. Just kinda did it just kind of wreck the car walked away from it. And that was and so that was that was very disappointing. But the end of the day shot yet, it was I think we all agree. It wasn't that surprising. I mean, this is not a job ever really embraced or invested in. And I think it's not coincidental to happen on the day. The last day of the season of start of win the general managers tough part of their schedule is now they gotta gotta go out and find a draft pick for the lotteries gotta go out and find a free agent to play with the Braun. He's gotta deal with the Luke Walton case and all that stuff. And I don't think he wanted to do it. I don't think I think I think he want. I don't want that he wanted to do. And we all know this. He wanted to fire. Luke, I think one of the fire rob Lincoln and Jay didn't want him to. So he didn't want to have that fight on his hands. And I think that's what triggered it. But also that he thought you know, what I really wanna to keep putting in the work, which you hadn't really been doing. Melodic of anyway, to be honest he'd been in and out with all of his businesses. I mean, he's such a wonderful. You know, ambassador sports for the world. He belongs to the world didn't belong to the Lakers. And I wish the Lakers had realized that before they hired him two years ago. Because it it really hasn't been a great run. You know, you go from picking up the pieces and trying to look at his time in this position for the Lakers to now moving forward for this organization because all those things that he was maybe going to have to do that. You just mentioned final draft picks handle the coaching situation. Somebody else has to go and still do that. Like rent is still do. Right. So what are the Lakers do moving forward putting magic and this behind them first order of business morning. I'm sure you all been talk all day on the radio. It's right now, it's rob Pelinka. And I don't think he's the answer. And he was the guy magic was pretty clearly talked about with Brigham back dabbing. That's where he was talking about. I mean that was fairly clear and then when asked if he would keep rob politic. If you wanted to keep wop he thought Lakers your keep Mets general manager. Magic answer that you said he was up to Jamie heat deferred. He could have supported them. And he did. And not the magic Dora means anything and more this point. But I think yeah, it it. They've got a tough go of it. Because it got to figure out how to move forward with a general manager who really is not on firm ground with the rest of the league. And you guys know all this. This is no secret people have Trump type deal with Ropley. It's a d- a difficult sell. How do you break free agents with magic was the one thing. Magic was was he's that faith in the room. He oh, he said he was he was the best kind the ruling could mean the room anymore. Try to the body. Right. I what what they do from here. Just a lot of whispers in in native things about how people perceive rob how rob comes off to people and just questioning his position overall. So it's a tough sale. You mean, I know that championship start at the top. You know, what I mean from ownership to management, and it trickles down onto the players and to me a top free agent who wants to come into a situation like this. You know, this is a disgusting soap opera right now. So do you really want to be coming to a situation? Like this where you have basketball your first choice, but there's going to be so much side unquestioned, you know, uncertainty drama, it just it a tough time for the Lakers than this was supposed to be a really big summer for them. But the way it's panned out. This could be a situation where they you know, they have the same team. They have that. They ended the game with that. They're they're going to have to start the season next year. Well, let me ask you this. Matt a great point. They have the same team. They letting next season with it a team they want LeBron to be on data team. Lebron wants to be a question before you came on. We spoke about that in. And I said something to the effects of they have a good at young core. You know, they let a few quality pieces go, but overall, it's unfortunate. We're not going to be able to see or we may be able to most likely not see this core developing and get some years under their Bill because of the time restriction there on LeBron where he's at in his career. You know, if they started the season over with Luke with these guys would LeBron with a couple of solid free. Does not maybe not superstars. But you know, this was a solid team. Just wasn't a championship caliber team. But that doesn't happen overnight. No in in in. You know, what is the new what does the new guy? I mean, first off is going to be a new guy was robbed gonna be leading them into the, and I don't think most like fans have confidence that rob Pelinka can lead them into this next this next area here. But if he is then what does he do with Luca? What did you do with LeBron? And I think you probably keep Luke. But what do they do? Do. They Cal tout LeBron. They do they hire, you know, or I mean, how do they how do they worked that wants to the compla- knowing that LeBron LeBron probably has one more year? I don't Laker officials are telling me they believe he's got one more year of championship in him. After seeing him this year you play great. But he couldn't stay on the court. And you know, and he didn't seem to really invested. Does he have he has maybe one more year, maybe two tops can they figure this out? And if they can't figure it out this summer if we're sitting urologists I and it's the same team. What do they keep LeBron? I mean, really do you keep them? Did you do you want him here? Isn't he holding you back? That point if you can't if you if you can't get a bridge into complete with them. I mean, you say he's having trouble getting people to come to Space Jam two of them. So if you know, I don't know what they do. I think they need to get outside the family. I think Jeannie needs to get outside of the family. I think that's what I'm going to write me LA times for tomorrow is I think Jeannie needs to, you know, forget, you know, rob is there because he he was Kobe's agent manager there because he was you know, her father's father's surrogate. Son, you know in beloved buyer by get out of the family, get some sharp, young analytic mind with an outside view in there and let him or her decide how things go this year to do Bill Plaski LA times legend, of course, ESPN's around the horn. I'm with you. I went on sportscenter last night Bill, and I said David Griffin would be the first call. I would make first of all you don't have to. It's not like you have to do that your I wouldn't do that that that's lebrons guy, and you're tying him. You're. I think that's captain LeBron LeBron cut more you. I don't think I don't think he's just LeBron's guy. Like he was a gym in Phoenix to before that. So I mean, it's not like he's just been a GM with LeBron. So there's that famous for he's known for. I mean. Yeah. I mean, I don't know like he's working on game time, you know, through the boarding been row parish in and out burgers. But you know, what he built a championship around? Lebron? Well, he did. But he's got one year to do it. And then I it's MAC that's mask that was back to me. Like, there are still tying their horse. Should they everything abroad at this point? I think you're kind of forced to I think because of the contract you're almost four thirty three year olds four years at thirty five million plus a year, you're kind of tied down. So might as well double down bring in Griff tie, Lou. And what about what about this Bill? What about like if Pat Riley was willing to come back? Would you do that? Yeah. I don't think he'd come back at this point. I don't think he'd get back into north hypothetically saying, let's just say he was interested. He wants to live in Malibu again. I don't know. I don't think. No. That guy get outside the family, I becoming back here to retire. Okay. So I mean, I agree grip better Twitter that, but I just think it smack again, you can tie yourself LeBron. But if he can't get a big creation to come in here, and he can't get anybody to comply with them. And you can't make a tray for Anthony Davis. And you stuck with the brunt of these kids, are you sure you wanna keep telling yourself to him then in twenty twenty you're going to get Anthony Davis. At least according to what he says. Right. It seems very obvious that he wants to be a Laker in twenty twenty. I mean that that would be it'll be thirty six years. Be thirty pitchers old, right? He'll be thirty six on December thirtieth of that year. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. Made it was closed. So it's a it's a tough thing. But yes, I do I think we're agreement they need to go out that I don't think they're going. I don't know if they're going to. I don't know it doesn't going to doesn't seem like it. And that would be a mistake. I think I'm with you on that Bill Bill Plaski LA times columnists legend, of course, and around the horn check him out there as well. Bill. I think I don't know if you beat me in the bracket challenge or not, but we all stunk. That's the way. That's what also we all stuck one guy had Virginia win it all and that was it. And that the guy. Nobody believes I find. That's why reunion was so credible. Because nobody believes me that we all we all feel by the wayside. Yes. But hey, but hey, met met. What do you? What do you think about me Ronin, I'm disappointed from the standpoint from the standpoint of I really just don't think or Watson got a fair shake now with that said, you make has a winning track record did a great job at Cincinnati defensive minded coach, tough minded coach. The only thing I just looked at. It was not many Turney winds and to get you back where they need to go. You have to win the tournament. So but definitely not knock on the guy them excited for what's next. You know, I'm Bruin through and through even though things work out with Earl we're definitely going to be there. Supporting in doing whatever, we can do we just hope as a lump ni- that he's interested in really getting reach out to us and utilize us and get to knows because that's been the major disconnect with UCLA over the last several years. It's always that disconnect, right, man. It's always. Football takes care of their own basketball's never have. And we want to break. You know what? I mean, we want to we want to come back. We wanna help we want to help change the culture the culture back or needs to be with. It's almost like it falls on deaf ears, which is unfortunate bringing the family their Bill to the family there. Great. That's great to hear that man. But by the way, met you not recall you were a great March player. You are great term player. That's when you shine. Appreciate that. Thank you just a little kid a little kid back there. Twenty years ago Bill you're the best little man. Bill. You the best. Thanks for always making time for us. You got take care take care there on onto it outside the family. Everything's like your family from analyst job. I mean, lodging jobs. I agree. Let's get into that all of it on the other side. Plus he did bring up the free agent stuff. I think that's a good conversation to have. We'll take some of your calls. I promise that like half an hour ago. We'll do that as well. Stick around. We're back and four and a half minutes Sodano show ESPN LA Sudan show here on ESPN LA. Happy to have Matt Barnes in studio. Ben Lyons hanging out. If you missed the first hour was really incredible. So Michael wilpon was in here for a little bit. We had Plachy obviously match here Ben's here. You can always subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts. Subscribe rate and review. There. We always appreciate that. Tell your friends to they want to find great sports content. We provided for you for free, even so they haven't. So I want to get some of these calls in a second. But a couple of things. So we were asking Bill about kind of the future, right? And what to expect from a free agent standpoint? And that you brought this up last hour, which is the Lakers have stiff competition, not just the Knicks or the nets or these teams. I mean right here in LA, the clippers have crewmax lots clippers of set themselves up in an amazing position. I applaud management. I plot. Doc the way they've been able to stay competitive still make the playoffs. We get trade. They're their stars away acquire assets. And then flexibility, you know, to be able to give to max players contracts this year in I in most important is a stable front office stable management. You know what I mean? And that's the one thing the Lakers don't have. So to me as a superstar the young player. Do you wanna come jump in this boiling hot water with the Lakers? And there's no guarantee anything is going to happen. It could get worse before it gets better. Or do you want to go to a team set with? Role players set with management set with the head coach. And adding you is the piece that can take them to a championship. I tweeted it out something last night. When all this went down that I'm probably going to have to deal with the repercussions for the rest of my life here in Los Angeles. I simply wrote that the Lakers of the Knicks. And it's true. They are the Knicks at least the last six years. This feels very the next right? Well, we're talking about the worst record the last six years. Record the last six years most consecutive seasons. Missing the playoffs tied with the Knicks famous president of basketball operations leaving unceremoniously with their tail between their legs a revolving door of inexperienced coaches, and the wrong coaches and wrong, moves and cutting. The check for the very Knicks issue out here right now. And and what I don't get from the Laker fan with the Knicks fans have mixed hate the ownership hate, the organization we love the team, but are angry, and I don't feel that from Laker nations. I think you're starting to like, I say, I think you touched on interesting point in this could have something to do with the reason why magic step to Ray, you got this is the magic man the world loves imagine in for him to be booted Laker games for people to to really start to not like Magic Johnson in LA. I think really wait on him. After all he's done for the you know, the franchise and busy. And being kind of an LA fixture so to speak so for him to have people not liking him. Now. He just like my life is too good right for people to be doing right now this point in my life. I mean, so. To mean. So. Mentioned filled with Mike scholar. Right, right. But here's the thing. Ben. I think the reaction at least I saw on social media when Ramona had reported that Pelinka was likely to stay. There was some backlash like people are like what what are you doing? Why aren't you just wiping the slate? Clean start over hire someone experience like we've all talked about and just go from there. And like Bill said stop with the nepotism stop with the family stuff like go outside new age. Yeah. In their defense. Give them a day because they were kind of blindsided by this. Those Laker faithful who are screaming that right now. You know, what are you doing give it a second? But it seems fairly obvious right? Like, I told the story to start the show with you were in that you weren't here for this where it was like. The stories out. There were rob would literally like in the facility be like, hey, have you seen magic? Yeah. Yours magic. Oh, he's not here. All yes. Right. He's not here like announcing to the world that magic is the absentee executive as reported. And that as Ben pointed out that he's there though. Right. You know, what I mean and almost like managing up, which is remember when was it? Andrea dollar or boogie cousins about George call baby. Both right. Tweeted out snake in the grass that was boogie. Right. Like it almost feels like that a little bit like that. And that's why when magic said backstabbing everyone's antenna raised it. I mean, it's I think it's clear as day. He's speaking about rob. Yeah. You know in a lot of people questioned what's Rob's credentials to be able to first of all be GM. But then move if if by default, you're moving up in ranking, right? What is that? Is that correlated to Kobe is that what is it does genie really like and believe in his vision? So I think there's a lot of outside questions when it comes to Robin. The Lakers, very it's very is Ahah Thomas in New York. Turn this thing. Into a dumpster fire. You deserve a promote. Right. But here's the thing to your point. There is the backlash on social media with that I've seen and look, you know, you mentioned magic getting booed. I saw I was at a game where a guy was heckling Jeanie Buss. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that those are things that people around here are used to with the Lakers. That is not a thing. Six years since they made the playoffs in an organization that it only missed it. What five times before? So there are a lot of people don't know what to do and are freaking out there within their right to me. You know what I mean? To go to a Laker issue Laker game. But at the same time, if you think about it players management owners, it's hard to develop your overall because every everybody wants things to happen. Now. You know, what I mean genie was new being an owner. You know, what I mean she's been on the outside looking in. She learned the ropes, obviously. But actually sitting in that seat is a mother, you know, what I mean, and then management, you know, you hire to inexperienced guys. Although magic, you know, as as a great ambassador, whatever experience inexperience, you know, what I mean? So people won't LeBron comes to a young inexperienced team. So everyone thinks that they're going to catch lightning in a bottle. And all of a sudden, this was a process to me a lot maybe a two year three year at the most process to where they could have been contending for championship. And I think the fact that everyone thought it was going to happen overnight, and it didn't. And then magic realized okay. We've started, you know, possibly a fire here, it free agency isn't looking as good as I thought it was be they're not really allowing me to do what I want to do. So I'm not going to continue to take the heat for everyone. I don't need this. You know, I've got plenty of money in my business or mazing a great life. I'm not going to be the shield for this franchise. If you don't allow me to do what I'm going to do. And I think he probably would have said more if he didn't love and have so much respect for genius really probably tell us all we want to hear it how he feels. But I think I respect for genie. He just kind of did it the way he did. He's going to step away because he's like, I'm not going to be this bulletproof vest anymore. If I can't do what I wanna do. Matt Barnes hanging out with his spend lines. Let's grab a couple of calls your age in Pasadena. What's up, h hey, George, you got a great show. And I'm glad you keep it real compared to Mason in Ireland. Charlie works with the Lakers. And so he's got to be that way. Macy's, you know. You know, he he puts it out there a little bit. But nobody like you. And and I appreciate Ben and Matt being out there and being real with it. You know, it reminds me of the Knicks. You know, when they had Isaiah, and the mess that was created there. And and I think that what I see. Anyway is when Ramona, you know reported on the jump you know, that the two aren't talking Lukin magic. You know, it kinda was just like, you know, this is it man Pelinka's manipulatives way. Pelinka if you go back, and look, and you guys all know this, okay? Tell them was Kobe's agent and Pelinka worked for tell them, you know, and tell them was instrumental in Palinka getting to where he got. And then what did you do? He stabbed him in the back and took it to Kobe and left and ordered his own thing. And it's just the same thing now. And if Jeanie Jeanie doesn't want to allow somebody to run the show the right way. Okay. And not just have friends. You know, she's got Linda Rambus and certain people con man, it's about winning and. This this too good would organization if she can't do it. They should sell the team. I do think that she's going to start taking some heat guys. I think that if this thing continues to go south because you've talked about magic being a shield. She always had the shield of Jim, right? Like, Jim was the basketball other other? Yeah. Yeah. Right. All the and now there's no one else to shield her from the ownership perspective because you talked about the Knicks, right? Like, the Knicks fans hate Dolan, and she's been beloved too. Because who she is. And she grew up in the organization never be vitriol Matt likes to her she'll take, but she will take some heat. The media is going to be I think she's had a pass so to speak. Yeah. You know during her tenure, and that's gone. You know, we spoke off air about fantastic learner games. But I think the media is really going to start digging into her now because at the end of day, you're going to have to start making some tough decisions for your franchise. Right. You gotta stop delegating or if you're going to delegate make sure somewhat qualified if you're going to delegate these powers. Responsibilities. But if not you are the owner of the Los Angeles Lakers, you have to make moves it's such a Hollywood like box office bomb, right where it just sounds really good in the room. I already get the guys who directed the matrix and meal Hirsch. Where'd you speed racer? When a bring back the nineteen sixty at things are done. Right. That's what this is. Now, what do actors in Hollywood do when they have a box office you go back to the basics. Go do an indie that if no one sees who cares. And if they do see it and your great in it you start to build your credibility back you get the Oscar nods. Now, they need to go is go mail your second round draft pick and start there. Let's go make a switch for the eleventh pick and flip it somehow and gets let's go back to the basics of grinding and building a team from the ground up. And we'll see if they have the guts to do that. Or they wanna make another splash and bring in you know, Kobe because he's just as experience as magic. But I think if they do that the one thing they'll have to do not disagree with that they're gonna have to shut every if you're not in the organization your opinion doesn't matter. I think they're moved by too much about what the media about everything. Like if you're planning to develop, and they have like I continues to have a hell of a young core. They let a few guys go, but they have a great young Corfe. You wanna do it homegrown in draft and develop do, but you gotta stop letting the media that because that's not an overnight product two to three year. Most likely the time is going to run out for LeBron's window. If that's the process you're going to go with. All right. Matt Barnes hanging out. Ben lines hanging out. We'll take a couple more your calls. I do want to kind of dive into some of the politics behind the scenes that's been going on and stuff that's been reported. And we didn't really tackle the free agency stuff. We just kind of talked about the clippers. But like what is the plan? If if you don't land somebody, and I think that is something that needs to be discussed. We'll do that. So Donald show ESPN LA.

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Thank you for joining us for another classic episode of the Steve Austin show producer, Sean here. Bringing you episode number one fifty one with big sexy. Kevin Nash original air date September sixteenth two thousand fourteen around this time Kevin was just about to be filming magic, Mike X L. So you hear him and Steve talk about how Kevin is preparing for that, diet wise. And this is a very interesting show because they don't really talk about wrestling. Not a lot of wrestling talk. Just Uber fax a lot of random Masella ni that Steve throws out there for Kevin. And they're just having a good time. Kevin Nash, of course, one of the sharpest funniest, dude. In the wrestling business, and it's on display here in this episode. And it's one of the four times Kevin has been on the show. Also, you get to hear about Steve Austin's toilet paper habits in case you were ever wondering about that. So that's coming up right now. It's time for this day and Steve Austin history today being March nineteenth on March nineteenth in nineteen Ninety-two in Cleveland, Ohio. It was a handicap match where Dustin Rhodes Ricky steamboat, and Rick and Scott Steiner defeated WW TV champion Steve Austin, Paul e dangerously. Larry's Bisco, and w w tag team champions, aren't Anderson and Bobby Eaton moving over to nine hundred ninety four in Wurzburg. Germany WWF champion Steve Austin, defeated Johnny bad. Then we get to the WF in one thousand nine hundred nine in New Orleans, Louisiana Steve Austin, mankind, defeated dove f- world champion, the rock and Kane in Texas tornado match and then finally in two thousand and one at a raw taping an Albany, New York, Kurt angle Crispin wall and William regal defeated note of f world champion, the rock and w. Ref inner count now champion Chris Jericho in a handicap match after the match Steve Austin came to the ring and hopes of laying out the rock and after hitting a stunner on angle Steve Austin got the smack lay down on him by the rock via belt shots, and then a rock bottom. I got this information from the history of Dobie dot com. Coming up in just a bit. We're gonna have big sexy. Kevin Nash on a classic episode of Steve Austin, Joe. It's greatest IBM basketball arts bad this March mania and March money well here podcast one sports net. We're competing against one. Another again in the hashtag sports net bracket, presented by exclusive partners bet online dot AG. Sign up today for free account at bit online dot AG and use the promo code podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus. Once you're all signed up fill out your bracket online. 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Cold for ten percent off your first order on vivid seats, make a member that last lifetime with vivid seats at that's the bottom line because I said, so. Steve Austin show. We talked last night. I've known this full while you send out a tweet last night with one of your new projects. Once you got going on we start. Start like production, which will be for me. It'll be God forbid, I'll sit down to Korea. I starting next Monday and start working on getting ready for magic. Mike two. Which is a fish Lee magic, Mike XL. So what happened on a diet now for about gosh? Oh, maybe twelve fourteen weeks. Yeah. I remember when we first started talking about you on that diet. And because I remember that you when you were at home Kogas birthday party a couple of weeks on Monday night, raw and I noticed. You jacks was kind of Dan Libby starting to tighten up. So how's the diet process? Doing that. You crib? Be asked me. It's great. If you ask my wife, she's like, please. They just they just pushed us back. Ten days know, you thought the Nazi Germany was coming into bowling. She said got dude, really. I thought you were leaving like you're going to be here. Another ten days on me. My wife loves the death nap. But. Up in such an asshole. She wants. And it just like if she goes to stormy did you meals organic sweet potatoes to give me this. And she's like dude like riding on a piece of paper. You know, what I've thought of that has to grocery store and buy it. I wanna do you guys out you out to the lake? I got a doll. And I've been talking about people here on the Steve Austin show for last few months because I had a guy named to Stanford ding on the show, and I was about to sixty five at the time. Then I listened to a limited stands advice and got down to sixty. And I look decent at two sixty. I really need to be sub to fifty. But then man I've been trying to come up with a formula for beer because I'm trying to get into the beer business. So over the course of time I've been sampling a bunch of beers. And I got into those happy as well. They in PA out there. They make those session up as but I'm talking about most of them are close to two hundred hundred hours of bottle about time. You slow down six of those night that fifteen hundred calories I turned into a just a total tub trash, so I'm pushing the scale mammy of the day. I got on the tow Lido it said to seventy four and I'm like, holy smokes. Dude on my frame. You know, it's not like it could all go to my. Bicep, and my tricep mind goes right around my drum. So finally got it dialed in. I'm running about two seventy five grams of protein abroad at two to ten on my carbs about eighty five fat. I'm right at about that twenty nine hundred calorie Mark and my dad had put my plan in place. He says do not get carried away with cardio because with all your activity is still training hard. This is going to be what we need to do. Because Kevin when I was doing was trying to come up. I get on a damn internet, and I'll Google in a calorie calculators and one of those damn things, especially the ISS would nothing will tell me I need to eat forty five hundred calories just to gain. And then I'll get on one. That says I need to eat twenty six hundred calories. I'm so there's such a high and low range is like I was telling you last night. Like, if I get a symptom of something I'll get on internet, Google it. And all of a sudden assume I'm dying based on the information that I'm reading so I've. I gotta take myself out of the equation, put it into the hands of a pro. And like we was talking last night. I believe in a frog shares worth of cardio just for a little bit. And and the opening of my show, I was telling people after all this years of training. And I'm forty nine years old. I've never ever really warmed up before I worked at now back when I was playing college sports school sports. I'll let you always warm up because that's what you do. Marie being such a dumb ass no-go. Head just want to go in there lay down on a bench and getting a squad rack and start pounding iron. And I do my warm up through the graduation process of starting light to heavy, but with my twenty to thirty minute precor, elliptical tack thing just get up a little sweat. A don't glac Jin. Deplete I'm not going crazy. But as warming up my entire body, and dude, I don't know about how you feel. But I mean, I would imagine at six ten six eleven close to three hundred pounds of bumps. You took you don't feel so to damn Skippy. So what your process Ben because this is really invigorated my work as I'm kinda even even though I'm dieting down I'm trying I'm training at an all new level. Yeah. Well, that's another thing with me is you know, we've been doing this for a long time. And we know the damage we we've got an bodies. But at the same time because we've got so many things are trying to get done in a day. It's like, okay, especially when I was I had this mentality where I was going to try to do four hours of cardio. And that was you know, and because my body way tell you know, a treadmill and do an hour. I'll knock off nine hundred pounds. I mean, I have shouted. So if I, you know, four hours or five hours a week at me, I can knock off probably pounds of body weight. But they thing, you know, you know, it looks like I'm getting on starting block. Do the the four hundred medley, you know, I turn to a swimmer immediately because I'm a basketball player. That's what I am. I'm echo mizzle. But I'm echo. Yeah. I I said, yeah. But she's stringy. Yeah. I get real straight. I mean, I looked at myself. I just got done to the gym. And you know, when when I once I got a pump looked okay, but how I walked in. I mean, if somebody would would've said that dude's got some kind of innocent kind of muscle wasting disease. Jeez. I look like herald today on top of that. I'm growing my hair off for this. Because in my hair was basically had to cut like a notary for a couple of years. And I thought they would just you know, put away on me. And they said, you know, about four months ago, they said grill it out how now I was like damn Einstein fiction, my hair's change because it's gray. Look like how. Yeah. Now, shooting handsome still. As I said when I get in the car it take off next Monday. My Bobby have one of those Scottish bands. And like I try hit the road in my pull did a stop line. I'm aroma one the noun and give the single and row you went down. If when you when you look at me, I'm just going to say equals MC squared. I'll know I'll be probably the Jewish. I look like, man. I really I wake up in the morning, man. I just still and like last night when we talked to says, you know, as a two eighty five to eighty six, you know, I ate all day long, eight cleaned only long. I go I go to bed against this morning. You use it. He's restroom. Go way myself. I'm to seventy nine point five on my. How can I possibly loss? We've been. Maybe he was sleep walking. And you went. Sleepwalking on the trust. And I it's not this is unbelievable. Okay. So what's your line of see men recently? And what you go away to get in magic, Mike. I can't tell because I mean, I know him holding water, you know, just because the one of the ice of Jews of taking one of the pro source proteins on taking kind of higher and sodium. So once I cut my sodium down, I'm sure draft that water the lowest of lows of way to seventy seven for y'all have from film. I mean, seventy seven I mean, my my lower back was in. I mean, I didn't have the drought on my sides. I to Rosa ads wherein, you know, I- convention about just stayed down with about the twelve pound. The chrome bells. My street. Strange is his not as one of the guys. They join this benches though, dude, I'm on the machines. If it ain't got hammered front of the night on it. God dang, man. There's little gym over Earnhardt, well, Georgia joined up, and man, you talk about, you know, I'm right down the road from gold's gym, but I stopped trying to a couple of years ago when I get back in shape, I'm gonna make my comeback to golds gym. But I'm betrayed this whole into wall. And it's an okay GM, and I've got a key to it. And I can take her she the wonder dog if he lays around on the weekends. But there's not a big variety equipment. So man, I got this gym today. There's a couple of pieces in there that are some old school stuff that you just played loan. There's some hammer stuff, and there's some old school style. But I've been able to kinda hit everything at different angles takes them. A little bit of pressure off some of my joints, get some much needed variation because sometimes left to my own devices and lack of a bunch of equipment. I get into rut, and it's safe. Komo same. Oh and to a degree. Yeah. That's awesome. But you also need a little bit of variety. So man, I really kinda intensified my workouts over here and as little gym. They got I got a question for you. Now, you love red wine about as much as I do, and that's a whole lot. And I know who liked to back in the day. If you went on a program, maybe drink a bottle, maybe two bottles, and you know, my. Four or two not one. That one time when you came over when we never that other Caribbean. You and I'm not back eight bottles between the two of us. And in Kristen came out. She wouldn't the hell happened. Joe have a party over here. What is it? May. We talk about having a part that was me. Kevin. Eight miles wide we emptied. But so my point is with your diet. I know you're wind guy you like to have a couple of glass before you go to sleep. You totally off the booze. I allow myself calorie-wise allow myself five five to six ounces. And I mean, I'm measured in in a in a measuring Cup and the whole bit. I was making out of a measuring Cup day. Have done that. Why waste why even wasting stemware? Right. But it's just one of those things like a your glass of wine in the sit there, and I watched this God awful show last night. It's you you you seem utopia. Now. I haven't man, oh, my Salvador Dali son is the host. He's not really big. I it. It's it's got awful for some reason. I watched this thing for an hour last night and sit when Zoba drink my wine. I was so disgusted with show, especially work at the citadel. And I said, I I put a funnel at the wind back in the bottle and Thornton NASA. I'm not there's no way I'm wasting hell I'll have it tomorrow. Oh man can semi when I ask you about now. Now, you're your guys guy. Right. You know, my life may, you know, two couple of gas men when it comes to stock and the supplies there at the Nance household, how do you and your lustrous wife split up at duty because I find that in Los Angeles, and my wife, she's at work, and you going Zuma she's got a kick boxing class. And I know she's working me she'd work give me like a damn rib bone on got ends up going get the groceries. Now don't get around most time when it comes time to make the Costco, run she'll go because I'll probably get swamped there in Los Angeles. So I moved down here to Georgia. And I started having to go buy my stuff and cool like, you know, when it comes to going down and Walgreens because my wife says she needs some tampons. I don't really give a rat's ass. I walk up here. Make sure I got to the pitcher and the right model. To to just go up there. I ain't got no problem. Like, a chicken wing on a shoestring mind some tampons, but when it comes to stocking up on groceries, you know, I'm over at the dishwashers out, you there's a dishwasher this crib that. I'm that they're written for me. But I watch everything by hand. Just like we do it to criminal LA. And so there is me being known value dollar. There was one soap gimmick that she used for dishes, and it had a little poke thing on the top, and it cost reductions and eight cents and then right next to that one was the manual kind. You gotta pull up the little top on turn it upside down at squeeze it for dollar and six cents. So I saved two bucks and got the cheap one. But now thinking out work myself because nast hitting a little gimmick button on top scoring down on my dish. I gotta turn to some bitch upside down scored at noon, grandma, scrub brush and go to scrub and so I don't work myself on that. But maybe this cheap is I am. That's what I did. But Kevin here's. I wanted to talk to you about I had to go get some toilet paper. Because I don't know what the deal is over here at this. Crib. But they got single ply toilet paper and wipe in your single plot. Toilet papers, like wiping, your ass with a piece of wax, paper and Germany. Dude when it comes down, and this is my family friendly show. But when it comes time to take care of business. I I need something various active, but that's when the macho part of me, you know, comes into play and the brands that I had to pick from was the cut meal, clean care and see cut. Let's pretty decent name. Now, this disarm and ultra soft that was out immediately the ultra soft appeal to a particular point of mine Adamy, but the Sharman turned away my ego. I couldn't get the Sherman then they had ultra soft and ultra soft and little pitcher of money on top of it. And then it went back to the Sharman, which was ultra strong. And I said man, that's kind of macho that's kind of cool sounded it's it says strong on air and in the head the they had the angel solved. The like a picture of a baby underneath a blanket. So you ain't go see the Texas. Rattlesnake up in you land with a bunch of groceries. Hamburger ground Turkey was some angel Salta up in there now, and then you have some cuddly soft that was the brand name cuddly soft. I can't remember what? Oh here it is. Here's what I settled on. I settle on the brand name Scott net says extra south on it. But the fact that it was just a guys kind of brand. That's what I pit. How do you go? But you process when you pick it on toilet paper. Kevin am I stupid? Egmont ghetto or an ego part of this. I go for I go for the at what everyone has the oversize role. That's what I go for because one thing about about eight eight meals a day that's been as much time sitting down in a on on on the hopper as do about anything with my knees. Once I'm down. I'm there for a while it's getting, but it's unbelievable really three of us. My wife, my son and myself living our house, my wife goes back the cast or wherever she goes. And she'll come home with this thing that I don't know. It is thirty six rolls. I note again, I swear we go through one of those week. If I'm like, I'll be like, Honey, you're we're still favored downstairs 'cause I I'm I've been you know, ostracize I'm downstairs, I can't use anything. Upstate put me down with the we done been banished to the donkey. Yeah. I am too. But I went ahead for the best fan in the world and there too. I got got my magazine rack and everything else. See what put the TV and they. Me a lot of time where where your social media takes place. We send tweets reprieve check up on all the absolute -ly back in the day. I mean, it was like a quick process. But now I'm getting up in my fifty coming up here in December year little bit older than me. I mean, something so simple as Pagano takes a little bit more time than it used to be. And I don't know why that is. But it is it used to be I think when I used to dip tobacco. That was always one of those things on the road. Well, you took a death and the new into the back, and then thirty seconds. No, you like that with coffee, drink my coffee, negative advancer. Now, it's just like I drink. I think it's just that. When you when you eat so much Protei, especially when you're eating it like chicken, it'd be you know, Turkey Turkey toss last night, man. I mean dry Turkey. Oh that Jimmy o whatever. Ninety nine percent Turkey ground stuff. You put on the George Foreman grill for six seconds. And it's overtook. That's I gotta go that ninety three seventy you wailing on that that stuff is hard to choke down. I mean, you got mustard I got salsa. I got you Lula sauce. I put on top of that stuff. I'm old school Heinz fifty seven I asked, you know, but they met it is and in like, London rookies, just go. Grab a bottle of catch up of sudden you scored about seven tablespoons a catch up on there. You must have beaten a bunch into Ladas because gambling. Oh, man. They could. I mean, I think I was like a green wise, it's just like the public's brand. And I just looked at it. This is before my diet. And I think it had like seven grams of carbohydrates in the tablespoon of the in the I was like tomatoes sugar. Yeah. That's one and two. I would just like cool, man. There's all kinds of stuff last last week story about the damn business in hopper because this is when I found out that I needed to go get some tone of paper. And you know, it always happens like guess there's a couple of bathroom that here in the house as soon as I set down took care of business. I look over there's two squares on a toilet row. You know, what then you got a while you dumb ass over to the other bathroom and take care of your business, and that just an cool. So when I bought the toilet paper that about I spread that stuff deliberately around each bathroom and the damn house. So that I never get asked out again you ever go with the with the baby whites noon. You know, what there's baby wipes out there next to to to the things. I wouldn't even thinking about that. See I always keep the baby wipes underneath the the the the sinks of the bathrooms because nobody will use a baby wipe Kasuga, you still favorite because it's it's you know, I mean, it didn't work. It's not dry. But I mean as far as clearly this, you know, I mean, it's it's it's the deal, but I always have those as backups Reese, if I do gotta go and in Waddell someplace else, at least, I'm not, you know, going to drop the shrapnel. Before we move on paper. I'm getting hungry. Before we move on paper products and go into a commercial break it Kevin's going to come back. We're talking about some Uber facts there. There was two choices when I'm out my paper towels that there was bounty the quicker picker and that was brownie. And so on you know, the the bounty the quicker picker upper I can dig it because that's a good gimmick. I'm a little ABD type a personality. But after I had to offset that toilet paper, you know, selection. It was brawny all the way. I mean, it another thing, but a chicken wing on a shoestring brownie was my paper towel choice. Brought the two pack your brownie, brownie. Yeah. Observer senior red lumber Greg lumberjack before but they'll still trilling on your brownie thrilling on. The red headed lumberjack. You gotta hero to Steve Austin show. I am coming right back when my father who's getting ready. He's older dad. 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After all as soon as I read that that completely turn me off because that's BS because it went on to say that the real killers are the other natural disasters that often result from the quakes, which are ce`namas landslides and avalanches while. Hello. If it wasn't for the earthquake this NAMI the land flat an avalanche wouldn't happen. So that makes the earthquake very very deadly. So I didn't even go onto the other fourteen numbers because they will fill me full of that much crap off number one that one we're going into give me your thoughts on earthquake in how deadly it is your one that just hit Napper. I mean you. Look at look at the damning structural damage to to a city in the thing is you don't know to what degree the structural damage sits these things I mean, it's it's like saying all the the actual win from a hurricane since the Andrew codes have been put in place in Florida. They really though positive them damage. It's mostly the storm surge will exactly our surgeon twenty foot storm surge a lot of people gonna drown. I tell you what the one thing about earthquake is the last time. I saw that went to Napa. They had the the end the thing on CNN. And this is exactly what it was. It was the National Earthquake Center, and they said seismic earthquake in three to one. They they had three seconds to react. Well, if you get hit by hurricane you're an idiot because you've pretty much got about seven days known that thinks coming to get. I mean, you know, tornado know when conditions are right. I mean, you know, didn't take take months, and they say there's a tornado warning to go someplace safe earthquakes. You ain't I remember one time. I was in that high reads downtown in LA and in the middle of the night. I heard that I was in one of them towers. I heard it just creek it sound like I was in an old wooden ship. And then I realized man this ain't increase you missing. And it was a Joshua tree earthquake. Yeah. And I I mean you with my bad knees. And I was like the twentieth floor, man. I write down those stairs was out of that damn tower in no time. I got no time for earth quake, and I'm living done. Chela? You live with your your living living on the fault shift news, real quick. Because I want to get a couple of things at you. And me we have lot comedy in this regard. Here's another Uber. Fac who says short and sweet average, married. Couple has sex fifty eight times per year. I'll go in respond. I fifty eight times per year just ain't happening for home at year. It's got to be a little bit more frequent. But that's average married. Couple. Can you job? What that Kevin eight times a year? So what is that one of the three hundred fifty two days in a year, and that's a management maybe wanting to say once a week. Yeah. Basically once a week or throw penalty flag there while I mean, you know, if the average married couples only having sexually detente weird somebody's got to be having a fair because they got to begin some somewhere. I mean, I mean from there have Mary immigrant couple the, dude. Three and a half. And she's two fifty. Take much insisting. I think are are married. I'm married up alive. A little bit more active than. You know? Obese you may Alamein. I'm never, but I L A. I'm just a horny something bet. So today dance Peterman at night. Have if my wife only want to have sex daytimes year, I had to do something about that. And we'll say that for the unleash show. Kevin researchers found a huge decline in as four years into a marriage. Why Hello there really that actually took four years. It took you for us to figure out you screwed up. Wow. I delete times now with with my current situation. Four years in I was happy as a lark and still am I can't say the same for the other. And never said I was in. But nonetheless, that's what researchers find why would this happen? Kevin in your estimates. In your smart, dude? I always tweeted to the the new car smell once a new car smells, gone. You know, people just seem to stay. But it's you know to me your relationship, I guess because I met my wife before I got in the business we've been together. Like, so like when you meet somebody. Now, they meet stone cold or they need, you know, big sexy. They don't meet us. You know, they it's already a preconceived person that they've seen on television. Like that somebody of where you know, my wife fell in love the muscle headed bouncer strip, July. So she gets kudos for for fallen in love with the broke bid. But explain the four year dip once and like you said new car smell and a story. Yeah. Yeah. I think just keep personnel. I think that you know, I can work, and I also don't think that humans are monogamous. Well, I think as long as parliament that humans aren't monogamous specimen a bunch of guys. And and I can I can vouch for myself back in my younger days. I could have been way more monogamous than than I was. But instead I mean, and then also I think a lot of cats just in because getting married sounds like a great thing to do or it is the thing to do. And so a jump into it. And then all of a sudden, you know, maybe there's that decline for years later. So whether the Uber fact is indeed correct sometimes people make bad decisions. Hey, let's move on. Kevin. There's a child genius who decided to drop out of college at work in McDonalds because he felt being labeled a genius was a burden. Hope. He's smart enough to move to Seattle where we're marijuana's legal. And if he does work beat the hell's minimum wages, fifteen bucks. So. I hope you hope he thought that baby out. Kevin. Did you know, listen scrape from over fact, so you can correct me if you're wrong, you probably have a lot of knowledge in this department. But according to fact, it's possible to pass gas without making noise if you remove the hairs ran your Amos. I'll let you know. What I I let me let me just say right now that that will be my science project because I go get waxed on Thursday. You get waxed for magic. Mike. I got to tell my s looks like teen wolves. Not not not. About to probe too deeply here. Please. Please don't pro. Okay. Can I can understand you? Go get you asked wax for the magic, Mike movie. It's a great day. That's that's that's a gig. But will you have the hairs around your anus removed? I will what would you wanna come different show and tell us about it you. I'll I'll tell I'll come back give a play by play. But also be able to tell you if I was able to secretly pass gas Dante what next time you come see me. I'll probably 'cause we're we're both going to be in Georgia at the same time. If we go out and get a twelve back. Bayer because you down on your diet. Need a bunch of Mainz? You ain't hearing you fart. I guess. Yes. Eight his wife's exactly. Let's move on down the road stout talking about Uranus. The planetary system. Here's one for you. Most people are killed by hippos every year, then sharks bears lions combined. You'll because everybody sees the hippo in Zoot hippopotamus eight isn't like a big fat summit here with a big old mouth on a mini ain't got no sharp teeth. But man, the hippopotamus as very devastating animal, and I kind of would tend to concur with this because sometimes people swim out in lakes rivers out there with him hippos live and they get their bit up in half. You're basically exact same thing that a across our data. Does they grab you take into water drown that each it? And they do that the crocks. On the big issue that fifteen foot cross hippo rabbi the crocodile ticket. They could kill it. Like, it's nothing. Kevin. Do you think should be a warning label for children who play the game, hungry, hungry hippos? I think the sooner that you make these kids aware of of just the deadliness of the hippo itself. I think even even stuffed hippo should have some kind of warning that that this is a toy. But if you do come across a real one to be fair to say. Please. Water. That non-sis let's move on Kevin during World War, Two Japan bomb, China with fleas that had been infected with the Bhubaneshwar plague once again during World War Two Japan, bombed China would fleas that had been infected with the boob on plague now Kevin now my question to you is not to dispute whether they bombed China with the fleas or not. But did they put the fleas and a bomb? Did they outfit the fleas little bitty parachute drop them all to infest the Chinese population? How did they get the fleas over there? Maybe. Dropped crates of dogs infested with fli now because the fleas would have been happy staying on the knobs, and we'll see. And then where do you get a bunch of lease at the flea market. I think that's a fair question. How do you get many flees to enlist in Japanese army? They were powerhouse. Did they have to pass some kind of fitness regimen or physical? I'm gonna have to say Bs on that one. Okay. We're going to call on the fact that somebody will be so how could they prove that? I don't know do. I kept going down. Uber fact thing and I was waiting to see the China 's allies had dropped in a bunch of flea collars to commend the fleas that have been dropped on a month Japan. So hard stock was probably strong early forties. Hi, strong Florida's dropped off later on because days, they got all that kind of liquid. You put on her back like we do with our dogs down anywhere flea collar, so swig amid for hearts times are tough. They gets this kind of makes me lose respect for this particular dinosaur because I'm kind of a dinosaur. Geek, do chicken is the closest living relative of the tyrannosaurus Rex now happiness be Kevin tyrannosaurus. Rex used to be about four to so mine feet long be about I lo- fitting eighteen feet tall and was a fierce predator. And it might have been a scavenger as well. But I think when born I get some feathers on them. So now the tickets related to t Rex I don't see how that plays out curry worker in my revolution. Played some tricks meal. G Rex well, you know, one thing I I need about ninety five thousand chickens at sixty six. Nude? I'm so sick and chicken, I'm about start, laying eggs. Now. You know, I've been on a road longtime business pro wrestling. And when you and I've been eating we've always kind of argued over to Bill sometime you snatch it up sometime. Now, it's natural up, and it would be all the way across the table. Sometimes you take a Mojo out to dinner and t Rex arms 'cause that's the thing. T Rex limited short arms elbows on your ribcage people while you listen to the Steve Austin show CFO you can reach by keeping elbows on your ribcage. That's T Rex arm. That's the person that does not want to pay for the check at dinner at lunch or breakfast. Am I correct Kevin? Yeah. But he he will be the only person that orders dessert. Not about that. And then have the nerve to Rex arm or use the restroom. Yeah. How many times you heard this one? Yeah. But a hundred dollars to us like a dollar to make. So what do you mean that you know, it, my knees weren't so bad? My by my low back and everything else. Bend over picked up a quarter. I'm going to get a penny diamond Mitchell pick up. Exiled right. At least dirty watch and grab it. Dan thing. I did I I gotta go with Yoenis on a monetary level. I will stoop down to pick up a nickel and owner is not picking up that penny is kind of superstition I figure it might be good luck. These are like I got a phobia with Pettis. Why? L torture. Yeah. But the thing about the dime is diamond small then the penny. It's worth ten times more, but it requires more effort because it smaller. So I might pass up dime. Just if I'm gonna real lazy mood when you scroll around the tour facts are twice on and check it out. Kevin, according to the average person was spent two weeks of his her last kissing you now or disappearance you worked for kissing. There has. Dude. I don't know gain a going back to the four year. Mark everything was cool but him and after four years, it's like active guy to get my wife to kiss me. I'm gonna peck on cheek to Harewood kissing, but as long as I get anything else I'm down so kissing like we spent a whole lot of time just making over two crib? Over three sixteen gimmick streak. I know that we kiss evermore and we'll see each other. She's a before and we kissed each other. 'cause she goes veggie for ship them over a museum gel lane making out. That's what I mean. Like mugging like, you know, like when he was in high school in college and stuff, it's a whole different level. Assumpta are giving the Cavs ski just to get a couple of kisses. Okay. Says we're talking about kissing. I got another one hugging for twenty seconds releases oxytocin, which can cause you to trust someone more. Now if I heard Jeffrey Dahmer for twenty. Seconds. I can guarantee damn t-. I ain't gonna trust at some mentioned far as I can throw him. So I gotta call Bs on that one. My wife, sorta people my wife meets every two seconds. And then know whether she's never on air, they're evil, man. My wife will we'll we'll meet somebody. And I said he seemed like he's a treat. She's weird. Six months later. They're trying to be swingers with us we well he picked out so. Kevin did you know this action illegal to name your child Kia in Sweden and net wrote my heart because main Christner when thinking about buying a third home? It's Wedeman having a kid named Kim. And when I found out that piece of information that Neil was off the table that that was a deal breaker for me. I think you're also America today kid, Berkshire Hathaway. Kevin. Data road. Here's one bumblebees perform small warm up exercises before taking flight. Now, this kind of equates back to my little one of my pertain than I started doing before I work at right now. And I have never seen a mumble be hanging out on the ground doing DP yoga before it takes flight. Now, it would stand to reason since this is low impact muscle building workout than it would make a lot of sense for the Moby to do this. I just can't jab with the fact that bumblebees gonna warm up forty takes flights the other day. I went by a those two bumblebees a lilac Bush vote was the steak, and I heard one of them say bang. Doing some wires. Yeah. To mumbled. Once again, I got a little hundred grand over there in the Washington area and to the toughest human beings talking on the face in there about bumblebees on via lack bushes. Kevin did you know that farts can cause infections to other people if the person farting is naked? But not if their clothes, I guess that layer of filter in the underwear when keep the germs from getting about far. Can you jab with that? What else? So my wife nationals ace, I make it bushes. On your she. She's sick. You six say, I know, I know way you and your wife wasn't falls rebounds per game. Kevin did you know the AGIP shin pyramid workers were paid with beer one gallon per day? Now, when you think about it do a hell of a payday in that Sunday bet you gotta hell of a buzz while I mean, do you're going back to when when a pyramid built you'd be your beloved better history than me with at the BC or two eighty days when no matter now. Now backing today man, you probably. Moser's scowl Moses was goes back in Moses this time you gonna gallon gas for like a sent nobody down car airway Ryan Campbell. I mean, those those cherry it's cherries. They got real good asthma where more green than the name, Prius and Toyota Prius, Kevin you own a couple of Mercedes and a Ford Bronco his Ford, Bronco guy, like myself, I've been trying to lessen my carbon footprint. I'm not a very green guy would you ever consider buying a Toyota Prius for yourself your wife to help out the cause of the earth's ecology. The reason that I put my wife, and my son at Mercedes s class is because I saw Princess Di's. Princess Di's are hit that filler going ninety miles an hour and the person that had their seat belt in the front seat survive. Everybody else died because they didn't have to see. Time I said to myself, I'll take my chances in that tank. Because I mean, I my biggest thing is especially when we were on the road so much or something happen that your family while you're gone. That's far as Bronco. That's just a mental. I don't drive it. It's not my everyday driver driving, probably in my, you know, I'll travel drive round trip. Maybe fifteen twenty miles a day in when either Elza gas. Yeah. Repaint it you had maroon ghosted inflame jobs on there. And you had it repainted. What color did you paint it? It's burgundy wine. Now ahead the interior was tan the into black now. And only thing I got left to do nows. Gotta put. Revamp stereo on the inside, dude. I remember when you first bought that Eddie Bauer nation. Nothing was bad ass. How many miles you things days thinking just turned one twenty minutes different knowledge here for ninety three. And you got lifted and everything right? Yeah. It's got a I think it's seven it's total list three and then four body now's at run and is that motor handling wheels. I had to have engine blueprint it. So it's it's a little over six. It's a it was a five point had to had to Cleveland in it. And then it's ex it was I think it's six five now it's border about six point five liters, and I took the fuel injection off and put a carburetor on it. So I mean, I did just about everything you can do to make sure that it gets. No gas mileage, and I gotta gotta. Right on premium and it actually runs better. I take it up to the the airport and put hundred oxygen sing hang on for you guys. Got that going for him. But it's the same time. It's like the first thing ever paid for my life. You know, we're seeing ever own right. So it was like I ain't get rid of. Can you see the vote is two thousand fifteen Bronco that they'd put as April Fools joke. Yeah. Our now is actually pretty and then they showed me I had that thing ordered. I was I'm searching to find somebody that could get me one. I said, you know, what I will. I will actually give my brother-in-law my Bronco and get this new Bronco on the same thing. But it turned out it was it was a name room and see that went into Ford, Explorer, whatever expedition exploring, whatever took place at the foreign Bronco just because everybody wanted four north and don't even your own. I got a two truck, and I got a four door pickup truck and then four doors is. Handy. But when you're talking about an iconic vehicle like the Ford brothers or the Jeep Wrangler for that matter to doors that's the ticket land. And if they would bring that thing back with a decent motor. None of that low in crafted to put a lot of stub put a decent motor on my one tomorrow. I would do I would too of the one that they had that silver whether they had on online. I looked at board of the Cirque man, I I'm all over that. They said they had to have a six point three liter engine five point eight liter, the Nicole have that EKO boost whatever. Yeah. Yeah. The one that you can't get on the highway. Yeah. Hey dig this. Lebron James makes about seven thousand seven hundred shot during basketball game. So theoretically, LeBron were to give himself raise all you. Gotta do start shooting a ball more true or false deficit launching dipping birth is the second most painful thing a human can experience the first is being burned alive. That is a fact giving birth is a second most painful thing human experience, I have been burned alive. I'm gonna throw my hat in and named the third most painful thing a human experience. That's a. That's a a bad marriage. Yeah. That bears for that. I mean, you you ain't never you never get birth. And you ain't been burned alive yet. We got a good marriage show. I guess you can match for any of those. I watched my wife's give birth. And I mean, I got into it was from the minute her water broke. My kid was forty two forty two minutes later twenty of it was driving hospital cement. That's that's that's pretty intense. They lay the doctor looked me wanna cut in devils tillered when you're saying I said, yeah, she said one going to doing Zo on my son. I just rent them can be jockey job opening or some. No, I took the port and they wrapped him up and handed to me. And it was just like I was like man when I was we're working to New York one night. And my second one was about to have maybe setting a phone caller water breaks. So she wanted to maybe the next day. So I gotta to find the next morning flew down. My neighbor pick me up went down to the hospital and lengthiest springs wherever it was while in and assume that well, then five minutes later, the baby was born a big, maybe and. Neighbors gave cashier I bottle as well. Okay. I gotta go got on airplanes made it to Pittsburgh work melon arena that night my wife stood on twenty one pounds of total body weight who are tire pregnancy. You know? I mean, basically, she had a baby a placenta that was it. So I mean, she gave birth three days later, you can tell she's over pregnant, can you know, about ninety percent of maybe changing tables and public restrooms have tested positive for cocaine. Kevin. I don't know what you're staying on cocaine is or not, but maybe nine for should not be snorting cocaine year and ninety wondering why this kids are so loud on the planes. They're all jacked up wired up. Brother just ways they want to get their fix very Kevin if train correctly humans can run at a top speed of forty miles per hour, today's fastest runner you. Sane bolt has a top speed at twenty eight miles per hour. Now, given if the fastest man in the world is you saying moat, and ain't nobody can touch this gap. How they going to say that human top speed of forty but they goes back to the most painful debts. She can run forty miles an hour while being burned to death because he trying to. Yeah. But she you've gotta have the water finished lab. Exactly. Kevin, let's Rapids thing with a couple of more shenanigans. And I think you could you could speak to this show. Women speak about seven thousand words day men average just over two thousand. But my wife, my wife, and I like she was on the phone yesterday. And she was girlfriends and like the dog just send lift there because usually she's not a phone person. But you don't talk too much, so talk to me, you know, should talk to my son. But I'd say my my wife about pretty much on even Hugh, we'll sit downstairs, and you know, watch TV three or four hours. I mean, we may have, you know, seventy five eighty words say back for us. It's just, you know, hey, do you wanna kiss? So my that. Do you wanna kids are sex again? Man men. Just over two thousand words, you know, if I'm not doing a podcast, or if I'm not onset just let me left to my own devices. I'm like a deaf mute. I don't say a nail word. I don't even talk. So I would be below the national average. I mean there there's a couple times down to ranch where I might not even getting a couple hundred you know, and there's. When I was an argument with my wife, and I are about to words, or I always one thing I early in life man, never argue with somebody you're gonna trust sleep with again tonight. Anything happen? Kevin. Did you know that I say any is a state of finding it hard to get out of bed the morning, you like me probably have chronic dice Ania. I just thought it was called beaches. I thought it was the results of fifteen year career in pro wrestling. You want to dive Sania, I'll call it to two years of pro wrestling potato Batonga willy nilly. Geez. We still be. I mean, I today. I those Moore's man, I just laid there and just just like it. Why? Yeah. Why Jake lamotta punch the wall in the cell. Why why why? Him ramp assembly three more, and you know, the word nothing was actually an Elizabeth and slang term for Jonah. What is it? What is it? Elizabeth I can't even say that say Stacy leave all at their Elizabeth and this time period. Kevin you too big, bro. Yeah. Yeah. So it's time period. I guess that's why when when you come home, and your wife, what you've been up to you say, no. Shower. Show Jolie's underwear. And I guess I'd only lends itself to, you know, one of the best lines in the movie cool hand, Luke sometimes nothing as a real cool hand. That's and nobody pool here. Now, I spent the eggs I told the story the other day. Heads to do. Right. So Scott would would be if not knowing. Nobody my loot says he predicts he can eat predicts Bob beluga, we gotta bet Kevin drinking a banana milkshake can cure a hangover now abseil in bulled on now. 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The Good Hand on Chuck Yates Needs A Job Podcast

Oil and Gas Startups Podcast

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The Good Hand on Chuck Yates Needs A Job Podcast

"Welcome everybody to chuck. Yates needs a job. The podcast we're gonna get into our conversation with michael patrick smith and just second but i wanted to note for the record. This podcast was recorded last week. Before the big kerfuffle on sunday night on twitter if any of y'all missed it feel free to look at my time line. Michael patrick smith's time line and the like lot of twitter flurry about this and i'll just cut to the chase guys on. Afdc we may have won a battle sunday night talking about how evil it is that somebody would actually testify in front of congress in the like. We lost the fuck in war because if we can't find a spot on team energy for a progressive from the east coast who works in the oilfield says great things about our business. Defense fracking in the new york times and he just wants some reforms and those are very important to him and he feels the need to talk about those if we can't find room in our tent for a guy like that. They're going to be twenty-five of us trying to defend the energy business and quite frankly we'll get what we deserve dollars. Welcome everybody to chuck. Yates needs a job. The podcast were very honored today to have as our guest. Michael patrick smith. I just can't help it. I gotta call you magic mike. K magic mike. How're you doing good. I'm good well. It's really awesome that you're on and so probably violated the bingo card by saying that. Here's what happened two weeks ago. Somebody sent me a little clip of you on the today. Show talking about this book. You wrote the good hand. And i just totally missed it is. I'll let you get into it and just second but you know you you released it call it eighteen months ago or so it seems like with pandemic you know. Dates august gaul get messed up and i saw immediately downloaded the book. So you've been in my ear for a couple weeks as i've been listening to this story and i was talking to my mom about it because she was asking. Okay who's coming on the podcast. And i was telling her and and she goes well. What's the book about. i go mom. It's crazy it feels like brunei. Brown was trying to write fear and loathing in las vegas. But she's been sitting there watching the movie giant the whole time. And that's what the the the bush really feels like. So why. I do this. Mike not shut up and let you tell us about the the book. Because i'm not sure. I did it justice there. Yeah well it's actually one of my favorite things that year. Is that a people we read it earlier. This is not what i expected. It was going to be and there's a lot of You know we're in the process of putting together in trying to Coming up with a plan to get it out and how to present it even There's kind of questions like is this. A memoir is this crave non-fiction you know And it's something i really am proud of. It's in the book. And that's a really personal story on primarily that's about me Working for a year in the back and oil patch. I worked as a swampers and crane rigor for rig moving company And then it also branches out into kind of the history of north dakota's a little bit of the science around more almost maybe the philosophy around oil and sort of what it's done and how it's changed our world and then Also you know the thing that. I guess i kept hearing when i was in the oil patch Was that you know from other friends and people who manage people always ask me. Why why did you go out there and do that so i kind of use the book. Try to answer that question and for me the other kind of maybe the most important part of the motivation for me to write it was to write about the guys that i met in the people who i met. Who are working those Just really rough demanding jobs and Kind of in tribute to them you know in tribute to people who do hard work like that. Because what's interesting about your take on this book. Kid who grows up in midland texas gezim works in the oilfield. This book doesn't get written. I mean not to denigrate the stories of actually working in the oil field and and moving rigs etc. But i think your background in terms of and don't let me put words in your mouth but being what i would think of as a liberal being from the east coast being someone doing the being a folk singer. That's not a background. That generally makes its way out to the to the oilfield and so kind of look you looking at the oilfield through that lens is is what i found fascinating about the whole thing. Yeah and i think that there's a certain advantage to being a traveler. Just the way that you look at stuff. is you know. I don't like if i tried to write a book about like. I grew up on a farm in central maryland. And i've thought about it. You know just like. I don't think i could write a book about that part of maryland. I don't think i'd be able to do it because it's just already. I can't even see it. You know it's kind of like in my in my bones already But came from a rural background. And then i got really involved in the arts and You know particularly if theater music like he said so. That took me up to new york city. I was living in new york. And i was pursuing these artistic pursuits and generally during my life at always worked kind of you know blue collar jobs but not Definitely not the industrial blue collar jobs. Which i wasn't Quite aware of how different. That would be a guess. When i when i got the bright idea to go to the oil patch is the idea. Even come from the You talk a little bit about it in the book but That's a weird thing to have pop up when you're hanging out in brooklyn. Yeah you know. I i'd always been i mean it's one of those. It's it's it's usually like the first question people ask me and i find to be the hardest question to answer and a lot of ways but You know what grown up. I really wanted to the military. So it's kind of funny. Twist of fate was I was when i was in high school. I was really kind of obsessed. i like. War army closed school every day and I remember you know. I'd i'd call recruiters. And he's my brother's name. So that i could get get mailers posters. You know they had the cool bus there's snipers and staff then my brother's a totally fucking pissed 'cause they beginning phone calls from recruiters and they had no desire to sign up But while i was in high school. You know i had a great teacher. Who was a theater teacher. Any kind of like just put me on a really different path. I mean i'm the Parents at kids on the six seven and the first boy to graduate high school and the first in my family to attend college so that so it was so i ended up going to college for acting and it was kind of the thing that just that kept me but i always. I always felt that goes straddling worlds. In a way. I never felt exactly. Like i fit in with the theater gets and End yeah and so some of that. I think is is sort of like an ingrained motivation. there's party to that. I'd always ridden and i was writing more and more and i kinda just you know i was like i'm going to write off another fucking book about like dating chicks and brooklyn. You know how. I i become pretty dissatisfied with with the life. They're just kind of You know it didn't feel It wasn't as close to the bone. As what as what i. But i'm used to or what i really one and i guess So you so you're How old were you. You were thirty three when you headed out there. I think i was thirty. I was older than that. Thirty six or thirty seven okay. So you just packed up. The the truck literally headed out of a brooklyn drove to williston mont North dakota yeah. That's that's crazy and Do this give me like one or two stories about kind of early days there. You know the culture shock you hit how you found a job. What walk us. Through a little of that because i found that stuff really good yeah You know the first thing. I noticed driving into town was just kind of how many different license plates there were from all across the country. You driving down route two and get it into the heart a williston and you're seeing tags from everywhere then cnn Seeing the guys driving and in some cases seeing people with all the you know all the belongings powder the back you know. I remember being really struck by that. I didn't have a place to stay. It was the rent was really high. Housing was kind of the biggest hurdle for for everybody. Who's coming to town So stayed for. I think i did about ten days in my truck. I did some camping and then Now sleeping in my truck and going around in looking for jobs but it's hard to sleep in your truck house finding myself like sitting at the bar knocking beers just that i'd be able to kind of get some sleep. You know get asleep and then you wake in your hung over. It's like well we're gonna be a hard day to the look for jobs but You know the culture was really. You'd sit down and some of it was was kinda strategic because i knew i could meet some people if i was out and drinking a beer. Whatever so sit down at the barn start talking to somebody and find out where they were confined out You know they're hiring or or find other guys are looking for work. Who just kinda give give you leads. and that and that was that was. I mean to me you know. We did finance and oil and gas. Right so i sit fourteenth floor of an office tower in downtown houston texas and you know put numbers into a spread. She and the like and Yeah we go out to the field every once in a while. But you know it's like when the when the investors coming out to the field. They've always got the nice barbecue grill going. We were in the air conditioned van we step out. Here's what a wuss. I am so my my partner for twenty years. Was mike kinds. And mike's a man's man. I mean he's he's like one of the guys that you're describing in their ran actually operations for the j field For exxon which is just mean. Nasty h to ask type field You know so. Just a man's man and Anyway we go out to the To the field one time and we get out. We're walking around a man. This is really dirty. And he's police. Don't fuck can say that to the company man. You'll get your so that's a great point it is it is very dirty but but the the people you were talking about being the people you were talking about that you were working with. I mean those are the characters that actually actually make the oil come out of the ground stuff. And that's something i know throughout my career and i guess i'll just go ahead and fess I'll get a vis serrated on twitter for this about doesn't even know what the hell they do out in the field but Yeah now that was. That was really interesting character. Studies of folks. You're you're out there with. Yeah yeah there's some wild guys and you know. I was surprised i mean a bunch of dudes met had been working in the silver mines elkin vada and then they came down with williston booming. And that we're working in williston. They're problem went down the permian. After that you know. I was surprised to see the kind of that. Transient migrant worker thing that i always at associated with like The history of the dust bowl or something. But i was very surprised to kind of find that that was a way of life for not a small number of people. And the interesting thing you did in the book and you basically humanized These folks in such a way that i think of a traditional right wing energy loud energy proud type person would put them on a pedestal. Column superman and that would be a you know reno criticism whatsoever overlook any sort of faults And you did a lot of that more of that than you know. Traditional left-wing environmentalists liberal would say they're poisoning the world. They're hateful people and all that you really you really. i think. Walk the middle of the road in kinda gave fair criticism about things like racism. Sexism difficulties ahead with their fathers excess. Adra the same time. You obviously had a lot of regard for for a lotta these folks. Yeah absolutely man. I mean there's the you know the The demonization on the left of of people like that. I just can't. I mean i can't stand it you know and i also think it is a mistake To line is people too much because then they just become symbols. And then you don't have to take care of. You don't have to help once. That's a hard working man you know he's gonna like that's the backbone of the country he doesn't need to get paid better and And so yes so you know for me. It was just kind of like always You know just thinking about what makes different people tick you know and i'm somebody i have a friendships with people of all sorts of different political persuasions and find it like there was a time. I feel like it used to be kind of fun to argue politics. Even it was kind of like an enjoyable thing and You'd kind of get into a heated thing with a body or your cousin or whoever and then he'd give a shit you change subject do something else so that was kinda though it was worth. It was worst to talk. Yankees and red sox was politics and right. Now i'd rather wear a derrick jeeter. Jersey into fenway. Yeah man it's just such a fucking minefield you know. Hopefully it starts sting somehow kinda simmer down but You know so. I've always been. I've always kind of been somebody to that. People will just on asylum next to and start talking to you know so that kinda ended up That ended up working working on behalf. But i didn't you know one of the problems i think with some writing about i mean when it comes to you know bigger sort of Coastal papers at the new york times magazines. They they kinda just They drop reporters into these towns. Reporters sits at a fucking diner and asks everybody their opinion. And it's like well if you had the diner you see the guys reporter. He's not he's not your friend right you don't need to. There's no compunction to be fucking the say anything that you actually think you know it would be like. Yeah it would be like you know a dude from fucking oklahoma and full hunting gear setting up at a diner and times square and like asking the locals their opinion. i mean. you're just not going to get. You're not going to really get any information. I think most people's needs you know muslims. Most people's basic needs are all saying it's not like So i'm become kind of more and more important to me to try to is always like find the what's the that we can agree on here well. I'm i'm a libertarian. I've literally only in my profession in my adult. Life voted for the libertarian candidate. For president you know so. I always know i'm gonna lose. Yeah i think it kind of gives me vantage point of get to throw stones at both sides and know everybody throw the stone back about. The looney libertarian party. And all but i think i'm gonna say this statement but you know criticize it critique it agree with it disagree with it now but you know i think one of the elements that i and i'll pick on the right in a little bit too but pick on the left right now. I think there's an element of when you know they see stuff they see it through the lens of it's gonna be it's racism etc and the the element. I wish i could say to the left is you're probably right. There's a there's a lot of that. I don't know that all of it is hate. I think some percentage. And i don't know what the percentage is is just flat out ignorance. You know it's you grew. You grew up with folks just saying the n. word and you say it But i wonder if you know if you are able on the left to not jump to well. it's hate. i immediately to criticize. I immediately have to to to get loud angry. If i could say okay. Hey why why did you use that word. Do you know what that words about you where that word came from or whatever on any of a number of things. I wonder if we could help. Bridge the gap. Because at least the vibe got a little bit from reading your book is probably some of the folks you were chatting with if you had had those type discussions with the probably would've you're right man. I probably shouldn't be using that word. Is that fair. Yeah that's totally fair. I mean You know one guy. One guy worked with remember him. Saying how you know. And i mean williston hat like in that part of the country to. There's like we're literally. no black. People could who i worked with was on. It was a grub on a farm there and he said that you know he was with his dad. They're driving down the road and there's a black person. His dad used the n. Word and he was like he did but he had just like. He got exactly what you're saying. He didn't there's he'd never seen a black person except for like on. Tv in the way it was filtered through through to him. You know so. It's a tricky thing. But i always find that And i've been kind of criticized too for like not. I guess yelling. That people are wrong. Like on every page of my book and still hanging out the people but it is really hypocritical to me too. Also i mean. I lived in new york when mike bloomberg was the mayor and he instituted stop-and-frisk. I think it's harder to think of a more fully racist policy that any major mayor or executive in this country has implemented in the last twenty years and yet he's you know sort of a progressive dot darling at least to the extent that he was elected mayor three times of new york and i know a lot of progressive people who voted for him and he continues to give buckets of money to progressive causes. And they take it so that you know i just. It's like that to me. Seems like a bad policy And when it comes to when it comes to people you know it's just like i just always think that trying to be more understanding is the way to go In the you know the even when it's hard you know it's like really and it can be hard it can be challenging and i can get in the book to definitely get up my high horse at one point fucking out of my politics and shit So but no. I like what you're saying there. 'cause my criticism of the right would be be because you know you hear folks on the right. Just get so indignant about well. You know they're trying to say this this and this it's like does it really hurt you know. At the end of the day i mean. Can't we be a little bit. And and the like. I mean i loved chris. Rock's take on martin luther king day. Because you know there. Was this big brouhaha around having martin luther king day and from the right you hear things like well. We've got rid of george washington day etc and this is the only federal holiday named after an individual and all that and you know going back and forth on a love chris rock. He's like what kind of racist do you have to be to not want a day off. I mean like he's like kkk day. If i had a margarita out by the pool and that would be that would be my my my counter to the to the right is just. Hey guys it's okay. Let's have martin luther king day. It's not a bad thing you know. In every american auto read letter from birmingham jail. I mean just all to you. Know it's not gonna kill you if that happens where i am right. You know. I also say you know from personal experience. I grew in a pretty like home homophobic situation. I would say like it just seemed like that. That was kinda drilled into me more than any kind of racism or something that And so but i just remember you know in coming from like a rural high school and get into college and then just kind of meat just meeting. People who were different from me was huge meeting. Actually some gay people like other goal. They're not out recruiting. I mean it's yes exact right and then and then just kinda generally being shown that that that you know me using certain language was dumb and that kind of ideas. Are these fears that i had of these people were fucking ridiculous and i worry that with sort of the way that the culture is now. You know young. 'cause young man it's like you're you're young. Old men are dumb. Right you talking about like eight seventeen. Eighteen year old boys were like trying out language. You know and concern. Is that when with the call out culture in the shutting people down and all this stuff that it it gives them nowhere to turn you know so then the only place to turn is other people who are using that horrible fucking shitty language saying dumb shit so yeah no. I think that's that's absolutely right. The you know the thing. I two things you know when i grew up i grew up. as we were talking about earlier before we started recording. I mean my dad is a biology major phd in biology and then goes to med school sticks around at rice university to get a phd in biology. Because he had met my mom and they weren't even dating he just wanted to ask her out so he stays around to get. I'm like dude seriously. Three years dissertation but you know mom is a biology major. Who taught biology to put dad through med school. Then she wanted to be a mom. So i'm the oldest of four boys and she goes back later in life gets masters in genetics and so we were just raised ninety nine percent nature one percent nurture so in the yates house own sexuality was born that way i mean just you know when the sperm and the egg came together. That's what that's what happened. And and so there's that and then the other thing i always kind of say about About homosexuality is all of the bible. That talks about man shall not lay with other men and all that. That's the old testament you know if you go to the new testament new say okay. Let's just read what jesus said. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. I mean he he was big on that. You'd better love each other. I mean that shit you know but great trying to and terms of homosexuality and so. I'm not saying this to pretend that in my life i've been perfect and haven't used bad language and been insensitive and all that because i clearly have but Yeah no it's it's I think the church has done a big disservice to a lot of people on that front. Yeah yeah i gotta we gotta talk about huck who you met. Just tell me a little bit about huck. And then i'm gonna tell you what broke my heart this afternoon so Yeah so was. When met him he had just turned twenty one years old. He was one of the first guys. Amanda patch was. He's a six foot seven inches tall. And just like this kind of amazing goofy big kid. A lot of ways Who was constantly you know. Constantly getting in trouble. He kind of enjoyed. I think Being thought of as oilfield trash you know and being like this rough and tumble roughneck dude nude go out and get in fistfights and is chases garl- around in trouble with the cops and trouble at work kind of trouble with everybody but you know the thing that one of the things. I think i was really that. I really was drawn to his. He also just had like a real sort of innocence him and which. I think a lot of people like that. Kinda do you know. They're just having fun or they're just kind of caught up on what's exciting from them and they end up getting into all kinds of shit But he and i. After a couple of months we kinda clicked just started hanging out more and more you know and he became really we were. I'm five seven series of foot taller than me and And and you know much younger than me. Sixteen years than me or something but we became thick as thieves. And and just kinda like romped around town and You know became one of my best best friend. Mine tire life was at was he. Jekyll and hyde when it came to alcohol he was one guy when he was sober. Another guy when he was drunk or did it or was it more. Just as he got drunk he used that as an excuse that it was okay that he punched somebody out or he got into the. The trouble i was it was it was i was. I was trying to dissect his behavior in kind of vis-a-vis when y'all were drinking in the what was the what was what was his relationship with alcohol on that. Yeah that's an interesting question. Because he he would describe himself as jekyll and hyde and You know in in the sort of violence and the trouble that he got into was never around me. I was just kind of always there the next day or i just laughed. Something would happen so when i was with him. You know it's funny. It's funny i hadn't ever actually thought about that. But he and i would get loaded and i never saw him get violent or in as did i did see him cross cross like a lot. I saw him cross the line in his strip club. Going to get us top and get tossed out of a strip club. But i never. Yeah but i. But i'm trying to think Yeah that's the interesting thing about the book is y'all go out and get drunk. You're going home and the next morning you're looking at him. And he got bashed in or something. And i was trying to figure out kind of trying to figure out that that dynamic i've got a a a A friend and i'm going to change the names just to protect the innocent but his name's dan but when he gets drunk and he turns to stan and whatever all the friends know that it's like now stands here now. Dude be bigger right right. And i you know and i have. I've had friends like that to just kind of people who i know. You wanna be round. When they're drinking in with him. I i never felt that way. But i did. I did see signs of it. And i think that you know like that night where he ended up getting his head bashed in we were. I mean we were drunk win. Like i parted with right and i know that he kept it up for hours so it could have just been it like really really tip the line. He liked the mouth off depot. But it's it's a funny one. Because i kind of had that theranos just fascinated by hook mean i i now fill like huck. My best friend is well. You know 'cause you right right. You're right about him a lot. The the other thing. I thought was just his love of his buddies girlfriend in a blanket earning. What was it. cynthia. I'm blanking on the name to change the names and the people in trouble so i'd have to remember crystal crystal crystal in the book. Yeah no. I mean the theory on it too unrequited love and love with crystal and it's just easier to instead of beaten his buddy up it's easier drank and go beat somebody else up and i was wondering if that was kind of potential genesis for the For the bad behavior. And then i think that was some a bit too. You know and he would always say that she liked to see him. Get in fights in. She kind of likes seeing him get into trouble and and and kinda and he would do it to show off or do it to protect her honor. You know whatever so it was like So that was some of it to me. I think that you know something. That i talked about on the book that i think is goes for hot. Convert for allowing other guys in for myself is just sort of being raised by violent fathers. I think that that's a really big Kind of theme of the book. And something that i was really surprised to find at the level that i found which just seemed like everybody had been beaten up by their dads and had these sort of like really rough experiences kids and then they'd kind of ended up in the oilfield. There's an interesting thing you know. The the military's some studies in it on night talked about at the end of the book. I was actually just listening to a podcast. The other day About the navy seals and they were talking about I think i think the test is called aces but it has to do with In a childhood trauma at twenty question and Goes night had an adverse childhood conditions. And there's a recruiter for the navy seals who said he looked for people who had high scores on that. Because they'd be people who would be kind of Just rougher be able to kinda like punish themselves more be willing to work harder be willing to be attracted to the dangerous aspects of of the navy seal jobs and i think that that's similar with when you get into extractive work where you work in twelve fourteen hour days and you can get your head off anytime time and You just get you know cortisol levels. All that stuff is really fucking high and so i think it was hard. It'd be hard for me to wind down you worked for twelve hours and then You get home. And it's like you're a one way completely exhausted But then in another way completely kind of wired because You've been you've been so amped up all day. You know is interesting so when i got divorced about five years ago and kinda we were separated for a couple of years before that and you go into a going to couples counseling and then individual. Counseling paid for more counseling than like the gross national product of the third third world country. But you know one one of the things. My therapist said at the beginning of couples counseling. Was you know as weird as this sounds. You know the language you talk right now with your wife is not good. It's not constructive. That's what's leading to the problems but when you change your language to something even if it's way more constructive and something. She likes much better. It's gonna freak her out and debt because you're getting away from your comfort zone. You're getting away from something you've you've you've been dealing with and it's gonna discombobulated her and she is going to go crazy. She's going to yell at you and scream and you just basically have to bite your tongue not saying anything until she gets comfortable with you talking this new language and there's some stability and some permanency in that language and so when i was reading your book and and i had never thought about that but you know. The abusive father makes a lot of sense. You wanna go you know. Go to the military and get yelled at by sergeants. You wanna go right you wanna go out to the oilfield and have the companyman throw hard hats at you and all and you talk about you talked about how just the adrenaline rush. You had dealing with your father. That you've tried to mimic that through booze sex and the like It makes a lot of sense. It's it's you know if you grow up in mexico city you're probably going to speak the language you know spanish and you're gonna talk spanish your whole life until you spend a lot of time energy and effort and learn another language right. Yeah yeah yeah you know for me. It's kind of the biggest revelation of the book and in the biggest revelation that the book talk me. I would say that working on it kind of taught me and You know so and it goes back to like. What's the reason that you that. I went out there. You know and i think beds like sort of a big subconscious reason. Even my even my love of performing. I mean i get incredible stagefright. I get really bad. Stagefright something not all the time but sometimes and found that lake. I think even that for me has been like is way too. That's a way to be Controlled high stakes situation right. Because nobody is actually gonna hurt. You are anything your out pretending to be whenever you know kings or cowboys or whatever the player the scene is but you get to kind of enact this like ritual of these high stakes situations And and for me. That's always been ben. You know that that that's part of it too you know So and when. I realized that you know as i was writing the book. I'm like writing about these guys. I'm starting to kind of see these patterns and everything. I didn't really plan to go as deep into my personal life. his Deepen delake all my fucked up as i did. But i hit a point where i was like. I can't write about these guys and nat right about myself. Like i won't be able to look these guys in the i. You know i just won't be able to be like and it became a big kind of part of my decision to like dive into my own personal history in these kinds of things and try to know sure myself as as an example as as another example of this And i think that there's ways you know so for now so now for me. It's kind of like now. Actually i really know about myself. It's sort of like finding ways to utilize it and use it for the force of good and not for like self-destruction or problematic behavior. Well i mean you know you read burnett brown and the pressure point for women is always body image in the pressure point for us men is always our inability to fix something you know and i thank you know obviously having a difficult relationship with a father whether it's abusive or whatever you as the kid can't fix it right. I mean you're just a kid you know you can't you can't do it. And so that's where your sense of self worth gets devastated as you know. I can't fix. That's our problem is a guy and the in their two things kind of about it that that came across loud and clear in the in the book is one and again agree disagree. Take this wherever you want. But one i thank you being in the oilfield and learning to be quote unquote hand was. Actually you taking control and being able to fix something you know and so you could read into you know i could hear it and i could hear it in your voice because i was doing the audible the audio book but i could just hear you know the sense of self worth growing in you as you're out in the oilfield and you're figuring out how to how to do this stuff and then the second thing i'll i'll throw out there kind of you know from the from the brunei brown Wing of therapy is the only the only way you get rid of that. Sense of shame is by talking about it. My priest you know kinda we have a check in. I'll say yeah did this for real bad and he'll go. Yeah did that. Dj priests you can't frigging so so that's the that's sort of the lens that therapy has been looking through the world. And that's what the lens. I was reading your book through. Was the book really kind of the first time you are. You're sort of in effect sharing your story or or was it just more. You've always been able to talk to folks about it. And and it wasn't that. But i i kinda got the sense just listening to the book that this was you know kinda holy cow. I'm i'm starting to share my story. Yeah no this is the first time man fucking suck. It really does away. i gave. it's funny. And i you know i was doing. I was in therapy. While i was working on the the personal of the book and the family parts of the puck and You know it's funny but when it came out right before the book came out i was like everybody is gonna do is shit in like a really really really deep blais because another thing was that like i couldn't i do dumb shit when do dry in the fucking oilfield. I get so drunk that i drive the wrong way down the highway. Yeah you know where. I'm living in in new york. I'm like doing blow and in when a date goes bad. I'm going to a brothel right. Yeah even with prostitutes. It's just like i was doing dumb. Shit you know and and i just but i couldn't leave that stuff out and and Because it just it the context of the book again like the wham writing about these other men and these people that i met it was like i just felt like i was like i owe it to them and then it became why to me and You know one of the most beautiful things about the book for me is that You collaborated on all the family passages with my with my family so You know. I reached out to all of them and this was probably the hardest part of what i was writing. I reached out to two brothers and two sisters who are still with us and I reached out to them. And i said look i'm right about the family and it's getting pretty gnarly and i just wanted to give you the chance to read it and if there's something that you don't want in there i'll take it out and if You know if you remember something differently you know. Tell me and i'll all possibly change it or we can talk about it and try to figure it out and You know much to their credit. They were all 'cause you hear stories about people writing a memoir and then they kind of like they don't they you know they lose family members the shantou talk this stuff that they tell about and i've had kind of tough relationships but certainly my siblings already but they were all kind of a good enough place to to offer that and Much credit they all read it and they all been incredibly supportive and we all talked about it. talked about different memories and i incorporated some of the stuff that they remembered my sister. Megan like rewrote a paragraph. Like she just change it. I was like all right is pretty good. And you know and it's been really healing for For my family. It's been so fucking healing for me man and it's it's funny because it's like ever wrote a book about the oilfield but i'm telling you know when i talk to people but i'm like yeah. It's like about kind of healing myself. A huge part of the book and And finding a way that kinda heels the family. And i get you. I get messages from people every week or so. I get a message and some people have just kind. Kinda has them out You know it's funny when it first came out i was like criticized for You know it's like the subtitle is good transformation and why can think the new york times said. Well there's not very much transformation. And i was like look. You're holding the fucking fucking book that they read. I'm i'm like it's in your fucking hands mother fucker. That's the transformation keith comes home. And he's more mixed up than he was but he left. Mike yeah well. It's a game like you it's like. Nfl football game inches. The no the and i did not read the new york times review because they wanted. Forget a dollar ninety nine per month and reviews from texas. Man i can't give the new york times e e money but but no i mean no i felt the transformation you went through because I i am actually not surprised by our conversation this first time you and i have ever talked. I'm actually not surprised by it because in our conversation now feels like you're in a pretty good spot You know and yeah you went through some really gnarly stuff to get there. I mean the the i mean. I just can't even fathom knowing that your father is sexually assaulting your sister and in having to deal with that as a kid as a kid. You should be worried about. Do i wanna watch spongebob. Or do i wanna go. I wanna go play with elmo or something. And yeah i i mean. The factory will overcome that in factor. We'll talk to that talk about that with a therapist. Talk about that with your with your sister today man. It's just huge kudos to you. Yeah yeah and said you know it's like it's impossible thing carry as a kid and then just you don't You know it's hard to say about it. But just like jesus christ but it it. It's been freeing really to have like all out in the world you know. I'd say that ninety ninety nine percent of of it i just feel has been really positive and just like fucking what happened. You know 'cause having guilt and shame about stuff that you didn't even do as a whole thing so the my my priest His stick and he came on. He came on my podcast. And we were talking about this and you know one of the big transformations. I went through over the last. You know five to seven years. As i used to get a church. I grew up. We went to church every sunday. But i went because i was scared god was gonna ban meet a hell when i die and You know because i was i was scared to burn for the rest of my life. And that's why. I would go to church. And you know my priest patrick's like well. We counted on that in the church. Those are that's why we use. But you know really in terms of working with with patrick and unlocking a lot of the stuff up there it very much now. There's this cool guy. Jesus wants have relationship you can. You can talk and all that and so the way. Patrick actually pitches. Jesus is he's not running around with the of course we read the bible and all that sort of stuff but it is. His approach is pretty simple. He's like hey if i can convince you. There's a community of forgiveness. I forgive you you can forgive me. We can each probably more importantly forgive ourselves. I stuff if i can get you to do that. Selling jesus after that's pretty easy and You know so. We spent a lot of time talking about you know forgiving ourselves because you know back to that shame the you know shame hates words the only way to get rid of shames actually talking about it and the like and you know whoever you choose tell will ninety nine percent of the time. They're saying me too in their accepting that same person as also the person that's going to say. Yeah you did. That was really stupid. But no big deal. You forgive your friends and you would say that to your friend. You forgive your friends so much easier than you do yourself Yeah yeah true you you totally broke my heart the way you told me that hook died when i was sitting there listening to the book. I mean we're just it. Was you know i look back and that was really a great day. 'cause huck died a few years later and i was like what in and i went back and played that a couple of times. You know i don't. I don't think i was ready for that. Yeah you were. I'm not trying to what you were ready for. The right you know. I wasn't i mean it was completely shocking and and i didn't know how to Also yeah and then it was for me. That was kind of. What am i just like most treasured memories of him and i felt like let me just say that. It's going to happen here and then because otherwise attended the last three pages of the book where you're kind of getting a lot of other information so it was a little bit of a You know the storytelling technique like one to say one thing but know. It's a huge loss. He was twenty four years. Old and The opioid overdose By in he wasn't somebody really used in he. I mean he would do drugs once in a while. whatever he likes drink in obviously But it just was one of those things where he happened to do something on a certain night in combination of stuff. He did Killed him and I've been lucky in that. I'm in touch with his. His sister and brother-in-law are friends of mine. And we've stayed in touch and they're really They've been really supportive. I don't know if they weren't supportive. I don't know what to do with myself. Forbid another thing that. I thought you did a real nice job on in the book and i'd love to get you to kinda kinda tell it is. You know buffalo's scanner and kind of that story and sorta how an and how you relate that to what we're doing with the oil business right. Now sud love to get you to kind of recap that chapter because i think i think that bears bears saying today because we're having that discussion every day about energy transition type stuff and being a smooth ride the earth right Yeah you know. I mean another sort. The other big factor. I guess throughout the booker just through my world views that come in through music listening to folk songs these kind of old songs or sort of ancient songs and so buffalo gainers of the tune that was collected by ad was first written down by john lomax and like nine thousand nine hundred seven or something and don't quote me in the year but it it's a story about and it sunk by this guy. Ramblin jack elliot. He's a duet got through. Did it covered did a version of it and a lot of different. A lot of different players have done it cover. But i do it now but jack elliott has a version. I think is as bad as top shelf as he can get so. It's a story these guys who go on the road where basically hired by the railroad companies or in some cases given money by the the us military to just destroy the buffalo herds. So they would. They would head out on the road and they would just mowed down the needle guns and they'd find found ways to trick the buffalo to running in circles and they'd just mohan down the buffalo Buffalo bill cody in some really famous of the old school cowboys. had that job for a while and they litter the carcass. There's some startling pictures of the prairie or parts of texas just littered with buffalo carcasses and I'm just always been kind of obsessed and really into the song. And as i was out there doing the oilfield work it started to feel kind of like a I started to feel like i was in the song you know. Listen that's on all the time in just being with his group of guys and kinda disband And doing this really hard labor. That's extracting in some ways. You know the resource kind of making way for industry but sort of like at what cost and and also you know also also tuned in to serve the. It was disrespectful job. You know it wasn't just like the term roughneck. It's not a adspend. Sorta it's worn with pride now but it was initially an insult right the same thing with the buffalo scanners i just found it fascinating to kind of just meditate on that those ideas and moving together and kind of put them next to each other and i like how you how you took it that in effect these guys for some money would go out and kill all the buffalo in effect by doing that. They wound up destroying their way of life. You know the the the quote unquote wild wild west and the parallels you can draw to that of you know. There's no and you're very eloquent about this in the in the book about you know all the wonderful things. Oil is done that. It's you know you you. You said this great thing about how literally it's fire separates man from the from the east. But then maybe it's oil that separates modern man from prehistoric man. Just because of the good the that oil has done for us but at the same time you know are we. Are we not treating it. Sacred like the american indian treated the buffalo sacred and are we destroying our planet. Right right and i think that that is you know in some ways. That's the balance. That's attention that needs to be strapped with it a it's a level of new ones. It's really hard to get across the political. Today's political environment from thing. But there is you know there yet. But i think that that some right you know when you kill the buffalo than their trains that can get everywhere and then you're frontier town is all the sudden like a bustling metropolis and you. Don't you don't have that anymore. We're in north dakota when there's oil rigs everywhere you lose. Hunting lands lose places to go fishing. And that sort of thing thing that the things that you like about the people that live there like about that part of the community and then and then now with oil. It's everything some macro rights because it's a whole earth that we're dealing with when i was giving my speech last night to the petroleum alliance of of oklahoma the whole difficulty in this. You know 'cause there's no question. We have a tidal wave. Coming at us of people want carbon reduction. And it's not the government's not just regulatory it is consumers it is companies its customers saying. Hey guys we want this. And so it's a very real phenomenon You know my three kids that have had the greatest life of any three humans on the planet. It's all been fueled by oil if you ask them tomorrow. Hey should we get rid of the oil and gas companies or like. Yeah absolutely in a heartbeat. You don't like my answer will stop buying their product and go away kind of economic one but yeah no the the difficult thing we have. And that's why i hate that. The rhetoric gets so heated so quick in this that we can have this discussion. Is you know it's it's not just us. It's china it's india and you know yeah. They've committed to carbon zero. Do we really believe china on that. You really believe they're going to do it by twenty six because you know. Unfortunately there's not. Hey here's the peeing section of the swimming pool. And here's the non peeing section of the swimming pool. You know somebody pays a pool. We all get it. And so that's that's really the the the hard thing and and i think if we could somehow calm down the rhetoric and be more constructive and think through that dynamic We'd be better off. And i thought your story was pretty eloquent way to think about it. Yeah yeah you know and i mean i think we i think we just we have to do well. You know the best that we can and there are limitations on it but but yeah the rhetoric is so so over the top and for me. It's not even you know it's interesting because it's not even like a right left issue. You know i. I feel like everything is put in this. You know the the the left wants to ban fracking and you know i'm considering myself very progressive person. I don't think we should ban fracking right now. It doesn't make any sense to me. Because i know the issue now so all the side of it you say well. You're a moderate. Okay whatever you now. I mean a lot of stuff that gets put on the right after the. You know we'll get you caught. Him hundred is kind of like I don't know it's just nuance. Yeah no you're absolutely right. Because i mean i think in if we're going be moderates about the probably really is a quote unquote deal to do where maybe the united states and the western world. Let's rope europe into it. Ought to finance Natural gas infrastructure in china and india. You know let's. Let's stop building three coal plants. 'cause kohl's the biggest enemy right if we can get right if we can get rid of cole And in all cause. I do think china and india have a legitimate beef in that it just because you've got there first and you guys got to live the life of mtv in coca cola and levi jeans you know. Hey we want our stuff too by the way twitter makes fun of me for always saying what my mtv because all these little young fuckers. Don't remember when mtv actually played actually play videos. It was cool. Just doubling down on it. Yeah we won't be do but yeah. There's there's definitely There's there's definitely something to to do their so but Hopefully calmer calmer heads will prevail. So now what are you doing now. So you've you've written the book what what's what's kind of a day to day life for you now. It's pretty interesting. So i've been I've been doing a lot of promoting of the book and and write some articles. I have something. That's coming out in the guardian on sunday I guess by the time this airs already come out but And so you know. I'm just writing. I write every day and as much as i can As many. I don't write as much as i can every day but i've tried to write every day and Look at a couple other possibilities. I'm hoping that. By the end of the summer i know for sure. What mind next project is. I'm kind of toggle between the do projects to projects to kind of see which one i think is the one that i'm going to go with it. Any sneak peek on that. Or you keep that under wraps keep it under wraps just because an not. they're not create quite ready to be set out loud. And i hear you. I hear you but you haven't done that and plans some music on Getting get a record together. I've been putting out the songs in audio book. releasing them slowly and working on Granada new record this recording a new album this summer Going to la and actually Next week i'm recorded some there so kind of also getting into mosul. Maybe maybe doing more audio book work in. that'd be narrating other people's audiobooks. Yeah you do. Yeah you do that. Well you've got a great Great voice for that. So here's one of the things i've been doing on the On the podcast. When i started out a ripped off an old craig kilborn bit and we do five questions and like two or three of them would be serious but two or three of them would be stupid and it was kind of a funny bit and all but it really didn't tell anything about the guest and so we We've we've moved over now to i. I ask a guest to provide a playlist. And you're gonna say well. What does that actually mean. Well i don't know just make it up on the fly kind of whatever you whatever you wanna do but what we but what we've found is people talking about their playlists tells us a lot more about people Then just sitting around doing five questions. We had one guy come on and on one of his songs was the song that got him through his parents. Divorce had a young guy. Come on who you know talked on and on about all these Revolutionaries back in the day who sold out for money because he was saying. Old guys like me did that in the oil business. You know we sold out. We took the money and his generation was going to be more more responsible with it. So i kind of put you on the spot about that name name. I don't know two or three songs. Take it wherever you want. That meant something to you and your life and you know what we're the songs what were the circumstances that they they meant something to you and hey the audio book was great. I i encourage everybody to get it because your songs there. It would not be vain if you named your own songs on that. Because they're really good. Thanks man thanks yeah. That's a phone one. I you know music is is such an important part of my life. I've definitely been Removed i'm living in eastern kentucky. Now and i've been Kinda delve into kentucky music. Since i'm down here there's a great duo called the local honey's And linda gene stokely actually sings on my tunes on that. I recorded for the audio book. i've been listening to their staff. I've been listening to Tyler children's who's another country kentucky eastern kentucky guy. So that's been on my playlist a lot lately. Single most disturbing musical event. I've ever had i've ever had happened to me in my life. Always been a van. Halen guy you know. I kind of came to to eighties. You know so. Give me some hair metal. you know. that's my jam. David lee roth. And i think this was kind of the late. Nineties made a bluegrass version of jump and with fiddles and he shows up. Sing it with a bandana around his and doughboy and jeans and all you can go. You can go find that on youtube single most disturbing so all all i ask is as we get into blue grass and stuff. Just don't do just don't do any of the hair metal songs. That's all i ask. That does seem a line. that just shouldn't be growing. Yeah it was really surreal watching that. God what was he thinking. Yeah funny that is funny. But yeah you know i love a. I always liked to try to get a sense of place. And i've lived in a lot of blazes and so so. I think the batman might be revealing in a certain way that being in this place is really interesting because of the the music here. I've actually never really lived anywhere. Where people like the same music as as much as your kentucky so it feels pretty. It's it's it's pretty comforting outlets very that's very cool. I did I did something this this past weekend. That i hadn't done and i've always been a music guy and and will listen to to like everything yes i i will fess up that i have a natural man love for bret michaels of poison. But you know. I've i've listened to a lot of artists and i've actually been lucky enough to have you know various musicians as friends. Let me come out and come out and rhody form. But something i've done and if you haven't done something that's got to be on your list to do. I want to clarksdale mississippi. This weekend home of the blues took the whole tour. Saw where muddy waters grew up You know went to the crossroads. Where robert johnson. Cut the deal with the devil so he could be the greatest player. All time went and saw memphis minnie's grave and and like it it was really really compelling and you sorta understood the blues because you can read about you know. I'm a sharecropper woe is me. And that's how i learned to play the blues. You go see that shit. Holy cow i get it year right. You see the land the land that they came from. It's a yeah. it's really interesting you know. I mean i'm pretty. I'm pretty open all kinds of stuff pretty catholic days i was. I was in key west. Recently i did writer's residency at the studio. Now dan. i got to spend four or five weeks in keeping the keys. I turned on the fucking jimmy buffett man. I was listening to buff. It hanging agrees house like he's great. I hadn't really realized how good a songwriter is. Yeah i spent a weekend in the keys and came away with a big appreciation for jimmy buffett. I'm like i get totally cheeseburgers mojica's and just do this thing that's awesome. Well magic mike. You are very cool to come on man. This is you know. Just kinda hit you up some random dude who's chuck in in houston and a hit you up twitter became in and i i. I will say this to the audience. Everybody's gotta go by the book and And read the book because you know my audience is generally bunch of a bunch of energy folks. And so you'll find the description of the oilfield and stuff going on fascinating. But i think you know a lot of my audience. Being energy folks have just had their balls busted like nobody else over the last couple years. I mean who would ever thought we'd see minus thirty seven dollar oil which we did and so a lot of what you wrestle with in the book. I know that my audience just given the direct messages. I get the tax i get and the reaction to some of the stuff. That's been out on the podcast. I know a lot of my audience is going through the same. Thanks so you were really cool to come on and talk about it. Thanks so much man. This has been a real pleasure. It's great to be able to talk about it and just to try to try to reach people and try to figure it out. It's it it's great. I appreciate it a lot. Yeah you know. I think we all figure out. You know you just want a little bit of acceptance you want folks to patch on the back you know every once in a while and when you get the courage to finally say something in a you want somebody to say me to you. Want somebody to say man. Hey i hear you failure. So how how do people get the book and logging. The website and Feel free to plug kinda kinda anything else you want to share. So that will. The book is called the good hand and My website is the good hand dot org I also make music under that name. It was my band him before Before again the book battle And down you can get the book pretty much. You should be able to get at just about anywhere. So i would suggest people call up their independent. They're kind of closest local store but it's on amazon. And you know. I like schilling audio up too because it has my songs on it and i feel like it's got a good. It's got a real good response. Which means a lot. I put a lot of effort in the audio book for me. It was like you know the last thing that we did before the book came out so it was kind of my way to say goodbye to it and Before it headed out into the world to make its own friends. So i'm really have a fondness for the for the audiobook and and i concur with that. I know of said it. A couple of times on the podcast. But it's it's you do a really great job. And i actually felt it in your voice this whole sort of transformation and you know your first day out on the job being worried about moving stuff you can. You can hear it in your voice. It's not just the words you can tell it. Yeah yeah you know. I as i wrote the book too i would. I set it all out loud multiple times survey in the final stages of writing the book had said the entire fucking book out loud. I think three times which was like felt like a herculean task but it got me so that i felt good about every single word of it. You know as good as i knew. I knew i could get. Let's get stuff magic mike. Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah thank you so much for having me check. It's been this has been really great.

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46 - Joe Manganiello (Archenemy): A Stuck at Home Special

Hollywood Unscripted

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46 - Joe Manganiello (Archenemy): A Stuck at Home Special

"From kurt media Welcome to another special episode of hollywood unscripted stuck at home. I'm jenny curtis and today. I'm virtually sitting down with a man who does it. All joe manganiello is an actor producer director clothing designer author philanthropist. Dnd enthusiasts and so much more. He's best known for his roles in true blood and magic mike and his most recent project. Arch-enemy is coming out december eleventh. Joe thank you so much for joining me today. I wanna start at the very beginning. When did you know that you wanted to be an actor mid allies. I didn't want to be in the theater club. That was not something. I thought about which is funny because it is exactly where i wound up. Mike hi this is the early to mid nineties mind. You had a tv studio. I took tv class and i would write tv shows. And i would say after school in type all the lines into the teleprompter so my actors did not learn their lines can just look straight down the barrel and i made it easy for them and i would write these. Tv shows and that it started out that the tv studio cameras that you can borrow an angle. Shell movies with them. you know. it's not like today where everybody hasn't phone if we had this. When we were kids i wouldn't have needed. Tv studio but back then. Nobody had a camera. So we really amazing in revolutionary lackey. I really loved it. I would sleep with a padma and next to my bed. And i would write movies now. Produced movies out direct movies than i would than action movies in high school and my friends urged me to get into acting because of the acting. I did these move. This all really good. Maybe you should think about acting and so my senior year. I all the theater classes. That i hadn't taken up to that point so i was a senior this base ford guy in their mind who was taking freshman level acting classes and the teacher came over to me and said why. Are you doing this. What you want like an easy a is that what this is about. Sit want to be an actor. I think i can do it after few weeks. She came up to me. And said i want you to drive for high school. Musical gone on expanded dancing now. She said no. Just come sing. Happy birthday that's it knocked out. A couple of scenery wins the gray. What's springs out now. The captain of the team of four year starter. I can't do and oakley's cheers me to go. And i went and then i got cast you know is one of the leads in school school that you know my senior year and that was it. It was like every step of the way somebody breathes a little more often to me in inside. I had that crazy feeling. Like i could do this or i'm going to die trying and that's what happened so i guess that's the origin story of how i met. I wound up getting into carnegie mellon university at the time the best drama school in the country. I want to get in there and it was like. Oh i can do this. So that's when you knew you wanted to be an actor is getting into carnegie mellon when you knew you were enactor. Yes you soon accent. I mean you know when. I'm talking about the cardinal was scary because they would people you know they will just send people home that the holidays if they weren't performing or taking it seriously or whatever so my freshman year there were seventeen actress sixteen musical theaters. They caught seven the first year and then there another seven that got caught the second year. So it's like fourteen out of thirty three. So i knew that so i was just trying to get through that first year which was so much work. It was insane somewhere during the second. I thought okay i can make it and then started getting cast in professional shows around town while you were in school while i was at school. Yeah did they allow that or did you have to like sneak out to go do the work. The indefinitely have to ask them for permission. And those are the two. I wrote a movie when we're in college. It was a die hard but on san use campus. We got a whole bunch of money. Shoot it but we had to shoot it in secret from the drama par. We don't want our teachers to find out because extra trivial active On because of the work they wanted you concentrating on your work and so in order to make this movie we had to sneak out on weekends and not tell them what was going on and so we were done and had it all. That's definitely the trouble that everybody gets into in college sneaking more work basically what we were doing the insubordination that we were engaging in actually was incredibly productive at difficult and we were all taking this on. it's just. They wanted to concentrating on your work and they wanted to show through the work that you were showing them which shouldn't have had anything to do with film works. You know their thinking at that time. Was he do theater. You can do film. You don't need to be trained fulfill which not that learning curve. Yeah i mean. I consider because i went to theater school and it was the best four years of my life. I feel like but was it a memory that you look fondly on or was it kind of you had to battle you way all the way through and get to the end. What was your experience with school. Brutal there was so much work. Spring break would roll around and you turn on. Mtv and see spring break the antibeach beach house in your dislike. Wow that's what spring break is. Because for me it was like being dragged behind a truck that you're tied to for ten miles yes. Spring break was when the truck went into park. And your hitting for ten miles. And it's like hey so party. Now i just wanna lay here for about a week. He just so tired. I remember going onto my mother's house. Holiday break sleep for like a week. You know here's a four page. Robert frost home go learn it with perfect diction perfect a phonetic alphabet and memorized off book. And you're gonna do it and then you somehow pull that off your all night smoking cigarettes trying to get this robert frost in you and then you get up there and you do it. You get graded the teacher thank you. She's marking all your errors. You made it into the clash to hindi another one for next week. They just you're in multiple shows. You had multiple scenes going on. You had acting lab with all the different classical styles from e. Greek all the way up through braxton williams and the cetera modern era. You're always working on a ton of the league's at once and they would say to you. It's never going to be this difficult again. And they were right. They really broke you down before they built you up. Which in hindsight i appreciate is once you're done or what you got junior senior year. You really felt. Like i could take on the world. And i can do. This is their lesson that you learned in school that they basically said you're not gonna understand this now but ten years down the line. That's gonna click. Were tons of things like that. There is an exercise. We did one day in movement class. That came into play when i was shooting. Convenience store scene magic might to when we started talking about the concepts in kind of the beginning middle and end little miniature story. They sold in that scene in brought back to the exercise that we did drama. School called cafe smile. It was like i've kind of worked out already. The dynamics of what would make a scene like that work. I understand a guy who's embarrassing himself. While he just continues to escalate the embarrassment that then results in a very small win but a win. If you're sexy you're not funny. So it was hot keeping goofy and mouth that it didn't become grotesque and unfunny because it was played in aid pseudo sexy way there. Was this exercise. That we did was exactly that line. We have a walk that line. The little nuggets like that there were seeds were planted in dramas for word wax. Is you didn't one class when morning. Twenty five years later becomes memorable scene in this big steven soderbergh or like animal products. That's the other classic abby. A penguin study penguins to fix my posture. Because i was tall and we had to do this outside in approach. We study in animal than it informs. The character i thought man. This is the dumbest thing of done my life we had to do it sometimes for three and a half hours a day for weeks at a time seven chapter it was like oh my god but then i cast in true blood. I know exactly how to do. I went and found. Wolves in live. Wolves Studying walls drawing wolves and figuring out how moved and going into the work shah and physically figuring out characteristics of watching dogs and how they behave and how they treated people when they were hungry or angry or agitated it was all what they trained me to do in school so even the that was the dumbest stuff ever twenty years later becomes cross of an entire performance or five years on the show. Is this character that always kind of built around that let alone. Michael jordan from jackson mississippi. So then there's the dialect work in all that robert frost oems paid off and learn accents dialects and things like that and the mechanics the math and science and acting. There was a lot that i learned so you graduated. Did you move immediately out to la. Yes i did. The school set showcases in new york. You have three minutes on stage in front of only agents managers casting directors. Everybody they come in recruit young actors from the big dramas fools the way that coaches and gm's go to the nfl combine see. Who's coming out of the big d want schools and it's like that with acting and so i'd three minutes on stage at one minute monologue on two minutes seen with a partner as part of these showcases out of that. I got basically pick agent manager. There were people that were very interested in me starting to work right away and i got offered a tv holding deal coming right out of school. But i didn't wanna do. Tv at the time it's two thousand. So larry sanders and sopranos. Where the only real cable shows. That's on so it wasn't the way that it is now you did. Tv or you did film. Nobody worked in both george. Clooney adjusts left. The are submitted experiment to see what was going to happen. It was kinda working but he was the only one that ever pulled that off. Nobody really bounced from tv and film. So you added that claire. What you wanted to do. And i came out of school. What do you wanna be. I wanna be a movie star and they go well. I can't help you go talk to this person. They can so there was a bit of it right out of the gate. I got tested. Which was here's the tv holding the which means we're going to start developing shows for you and i said that's not what i wanna do. I wanna do so that same week. That i had turned down that holding meal. I was brought in to audition for cider. Man that led me screen testing for sam raimi's twice and then eventually getting back part and i started screen testing for a lot of movies. I mean you jumped right in of is like so what a week in la and suddenly. You're spiderman pretty much. You originally auditioned for peter parker. That didn't you guys james franco. Who wanna playing harry osborn and the second green goblin auditioned for peter parker addition for peter. Parker tobey obviously i district for peter parker and then we all wound up the streets ask for our respective roles and filled out the young men of the casts that way we came in initially reading for peter. Parker a moment of your time. A new podcast kirk commedia currently twenty one years old and today i like magic defended from her fingertips down to the to take care of yourself because the world needs you and gutter. That asked about me was ready. Spit on my drinks. Seniors facing feel like your purpose in your worth is really being stopped me from the piano. She buys walkie-talkies wonders to whom she should give the second day dolls. Love humans. we never did we never will. We just find woody of rock. Climbing is that you can only focus on what's right now and so are american life begins. We may need to stay apart but let's create together available on all podcast platforms. Submit your piece. I kirk oh dot com slash a moment of your time from spider man. It was an eight year journey to true blood so it kind of feels like you're an overnight. Success people always say that there are decades of hustle behind an overnight success. So what were those eight years like for you foof interesting. That's the period enactors life where step number one make a living as an actor so the path emerges not everybody gets a hand select how their path is going to go. You have to get in there like a lay man a worker among workers put on your heart and your oftentimes working on things that you wouldn't watch or they're not really your jam or in my case. I did a comedy play in college. That went over really well to the point where people were saying. I didn't know you were that funny. You discover like all. I could do this but then you put it aside because mind you this the late ninety so all i wanted to do was be the next david fincher movie or the next site cloud or the next. Pt anderson we in law that. Stop all those great indie guys took over hollywood at that time of movies read. So that's all. I wanted but what apple was during that period. Where you gotta pay the bills so you can do in those bang around. Pay your rent jobs. And just concentrate on acting folds on. I wound up getting a lot of gigs on sitcoms so any. Cbs comedies pilots. But it a pilot didn't go with john leguizamo and i one about how i met your mother tongue in the because of how i met your mother a castle on other. Cbs comedy they wanted to get me off of how i met your mother under their show until death. And then the gosh. From how i met your mother wanted to do the follow up. Show so they wrote this show about a pittsburgh schwartz. Dad jamie presley was fresh off her and she grabbed my wife on it to all his comedy stuff was happening for me. While i was in the bills. I had to make a living as a character actor because people weren't handing me leading. You know they're all your too big or too this year to blue-collar your to whatever it is you want this thing but they're not handing it sued so what i had to do is learn how to the big best friend or the big funny crazy best friend or the bad guy or the guy who was up to something and then the allegations are true. Blood happened which was leading man role. It was tailored for somebody my size. They needed this big grefe looking guy. You had to be romantic little bit humor. In the whole cast was comprised the theater actors for the most part all of a sudden. This role came out of nowhere that was made for me. What was it like like you said you're all fantastic actors on this show but to absolute absurd things. Everybody on that show was so good in so confident it had been around the block so many times that yeah. We were laughing hysterically having a great time. There was a mixture of excitement and fear delicious. Fear when the new strips would get sent you just tearing through these trips to see what crazy shit. They're gonna make you do or if it wasn't your turn in the barrel that week where they were going to do to somebody else and you just thought the biggest got it all because it was like all my guy your kid all the halloween gonna do that holy shit. I can't wait to see that. Oh my god so it was a really fun atmosphere. Because you had the best true on a planet the best create minds in writer's room and this amazing source material with these far out wild ideas and then all of us had such a sense of humor. Because you know. He was hamlet and he was fantastic allen. This one just seemed from play in the west end. You should have seen me in that eggs in play that i did or whatever it is and now it's like take a close off your vampire. Cheeser vampire master and she forcing you to fall out of love with fairy and be in love with her. And in the meantime you're going to be like adding sexual. They're twisting your head around snapping your sign while she's vomiting blood all over the place screaming your name like jer. This may how are we going to figure this one out. And then you'd have these amazing creative minds get together and figure that out and the result would be must see watercooler. Tv where the audience was ten times more excited than we were to see. What's going to happen next. And how they were gonna pull it off and the way that they treated us. It was like we weren't just actors on the show. We were rockstars. I'd never seen people treated the way that we did when we were out in the world. Like people screaming and clawing at you and sake date always use the best. Everybody wants people to faint when they walk. It was crazy. I mean we've looked at me like this close is ever going to be the being the rolling stones for me. Was that a hard adjustment though. Having that suddenly be your life. I had a black satin loved. It knows a good time. We had alan ball in the show very recently and he talked about when bill is having sex with his maker and he flips her head around referring to yes and he was like that was probably the craziest thing. That was the end of my first episode. Actually so all my family. Oh joe's on a new show great you know and that was the episode. They got to watch. Your mom must've been so proud great so then after true blood. Were you hesitant to join magic. Mike because you had already been kind of a role that required a lot of objectification you might say. I don't even think about it as justification because it's what the character would do if you turn into a wolf and then from a wolfback human you don't magically have pants that show him this logic speaking so that's what the character requires show. That really took you inside a bedrooms. The way that other shows really never had showed that side of the rawness sort of visceral interaction or this character building in those situations. So okay great but the problem. Is i think if you do that. You run the risk of being marginalized. They're having the actual work that's gone into that marginalized than people don't see who's an actor. They see it as like a gimmick so the idea that i was going to go from that into magic micro or stripper movie. It was like oh boy. This is probably cement people's minds that i'm some kind of goofy meathead. Jim morad non artists non actor entity who is picking all this stuff because exhibition who likes cramming it down everybody's throat. He's in good shape in. It's like that's not really me. I was not interested in that. What i was interested in was working with steven soderbergh. Who is in my mind. Maybe the greatest. That's ever done it to be able to work with a brilliant mind like that and going from working with someone like alan ball. Packwood to soderbergh mashed khanna. Hey how could i say no to that. And i had a conversation with him about strip. Hey pitas pump scene. Was that all bow. what am i dislike. And it's just gonna be straight up me with the palmer. How're you shooting this. You know what are we doing. No no no. It's two people having conversation in the background. And there's this thing blurry in the foreground and they're having a serious conversation in this thing just keeps blur early inflated. I'm gonna cut to you. Cut your face pump in this thing and you realized what was on the foreground. You've been watching. It had no idea what it was. And i went and all of a sudden the movie became clear and i realize This is so funny. The way he's laying this all out to be so subversive. It's so hilarious and so genius. He's taking this very concept male stripping and his elevating into the form of like high art comedy. A gal do whatever you want. let's go so that's really what it was about. But i assume that once it was over i was going to have to dig myself out of some sort of perceived hole was in. I was going to really have to watch what i did after that. But it did look like you guys had so much fun on both sets. I just watched the second one. I hadn't seen it before. There's a line in there where you say fucking vampire bullshit. Was that written just for you so people would have blasted you being mad at vampires. No because i'm responding to at the male stripper conventions so there's all these different groups in fashions doing their routines to try to win the competition. And i'm out that. He threw the curtains to see what everybody else is doing. Doing a twilight routine. That's where we'd come to the art form it is male stripping was that we now jump the shark which we talked about. It was like with the most ridiculous audible chevy male stripper routine. I'm like what y light or something. And that was at the time where everyone would always seem to our light. What do you think about twilight. purposely didn't watch it because i wanted to be able to honestly answer. I've never seen it so let's move on the next question for anybody who knows me. That was like an inside joke. Yeah of course their day on that set that you think is probably the most fun god. They were all funny. We're just laughing crack each other up all day long one. That really sticks out was. I didn't know that i had a partially torn bicep and i shot the whole movie and train every day on a partially torn. Bicep that by the grace of the movie. Gods didn't snap enroll up which meant game over the movie's done and so it stayed attached. Miraculously through the whole shoot. I just thought i dislocated my elbow. That sort of felt like and on the outperformed the wedding routine. Which is that little nine inch nails section. Where i do that scene on. The sim swing it tour. Really bad there. A rip and a pop and i thought it was gone. We went into the back room. Allah karate kid. Everyone came around me. And i was laying on the table and they had susa. It was working on it at my elbow dislocated because it didn't snap and roll up in a channing comes in san over meat. He's like to move my routine. Not i can go today. I'll go today. You go tomorrow i. I don't think i'm going to be able to move my arm law. I gotta go now. I turn a soda. And i'm like how many more taste you need of me carrying the girl up the stairs. Because that was agitating securing their said. How many more shots he thought to himself. Anyone who you give me two more. I want okay. I had to go back in a give him too. Good takes fearing that. It was just going to snap and we're done and we got those and then the sem sway. Where i had to go jump up in the air and know that it was going to hold me up. My brain wanted me to stop. It's like we're not doing this. And i had to just put my arm down and have the faith that it was just going to hold and try to get all that weight in the tricep. It just pray that it was gonna hold and it did so i it through that day and finish that routine finished my shooting and then another week of shooting and then got home and went to see a doctor and he immediately was like you need to go into surgery. Torn bassett was like okay. I guess that day was not the most fun day but it was like the day. I'll always remember because looking back. I don't know how i got through it out on the how finish the movie. I don't know how he pulled that off. I can't believe we finished. Well do it for the art. You know so then. You created your production company. Three fifty nine with your brother nick. What was the motivation behind forming a company. Well a you go back to those movies. That i made in high school i always loved producing and creating a story from the ground up and then also on the other side of it for whatever reason people had trouble envisioning me or somebody my size. Whatever it is as leading man if it wasn't written for somebody my size than it's not gonna be me either. Need to be like i said the big villain or big dumb guy whatever it was had learn how to play those characters because those what was available and so three fifty nine production company was about chasing good stories. Whether they to me as an actor or not finding shrimps that i knew were sexual but also like bottom of the ninth for example. It's an italian guy from the bronx. Who is a baseball prodigy. Who goes to prison in nineteen and gets out of thirty eight. It's like okay. Italian baseball player. Bronx losses gonna player right leading man role. That is believable. And make sense that you believe that. I was an athlete. If no one was going to hand me. Those swings of the play button intended. That i was going to have to make myself. I'm robert ross. Host of cars. That matter you might be wondering what makes a car matter and i have a feeling you already know the answer. Some cars have changed mystery. Some you can hear a mile away. Some have lines that make your heart skip a beat if a car ever made you look twice. I think you know the ones that matter joy as i speak with designers collectors market experts about the passions at drivers and the passions. We drive cars that matter wherever you get your podcasts The name three fifty nine has a great story behind what you just talk about that. For a minute. It's dedicated to roger bannister. Who was the first human being to break the four minute mile barrier we unit measurement the mildness back ancient rome no one can run the mile in under four minutes is thousands of years citing into the nineteen fifties. No-one had done it so everyone just assumed that's impossible. In one thousand nine hundred eighty two british physician roger bannister said. I think he can be done. A mile is traditionally broken into four laps around a track. So what he did was he went and found four submit lap runners and he would race against each one consecutively and once he could be all four event raced through mile for time and he broke the four minute mile barrier. He had the guts to say the rest of society and humanity thinks this is impossible. I'm gonna come up with a plan and a training method. And i'm gonna break this. Impossible cast into small digestible pieces. The most amazing thing about him breaking this record was a few months later. Someone broke his record and then within a couple years. All these people around the world had broken his record ito that gets into this idea that it's only impossible because you believe it's impossible and then once someone smashes that wall down and shows you that it can be done all of a sudden everybody can do it. So there's this mental barrier that keeps us from achieving. We can do things that we think are possible in that day. He basically made the arrests of humanity. Faster i just lake that idea that all it's impossible will watch this. I wrote a book about training years ago. If you can break training in the smaller pieces because people. I think they go to the gym and they say that incredible shape. I'll never be there. I'm embarrassed i'm just gonna go home. What they don't realize is if that guy at the gym who's incredible shape. He started outright. Where you're at have smart plan and you enact that plan you'll get results. It's not this altruistic thing it's just me with some form of chip on my shoulder going out and taking my career into my own hands. Because i know i can do things. That people aren't giving them the opportunity and one of those things is arch-enemy which comes out on december eleventh. How did it get started. I was a huge fan of this movie. Mandy served my favorite movie in the past. Twenty years out of sessa. This movie mandy. And i started hunting down. Everybody had anything to do with. Met some of the producers for mandy namely the folks over Elijah wood daniel not at least wayland became friends with them. Became friends with the director of mandy started hanging out with them in. we had all the same sensibilities. And we're really trying to make art for art's sake but really fun art through that relationship at least wayland said strip for archenemy to see what i thought and i told her i said i wanna do this movie. Would we have to do and things worked out. I met the director. Adam egypt mortimer. I'd seen his film daniela's real was a fan of that. We got along right away. We had a lot of the same influences in terms of Story wise and saw things. I i in what we were trying to accomplish with it. What was it you were trying to accomplish. We wanted to say the comic book genre and turn it on. It said we were fans of the indie comics of the nineties. Were commenting on society in america. Superheroes and mythology people's expectation or starting to enter into that era where we're finding out that a lot of the people that we have put a actually had very big blooming skeletons in their closet and so it was a movement away from protecting those people into the anti hero phase or idolizing people who had been great flaws rather than and the squeaky clean superheroes of the big comic companies back in the day. Like frank miller and chris claremont that were starting to then the genre on some of the comments you know whether it's grant morrison mills was a big influence. We wanted to make an indie Movie eero where comic book movies are solely owned by the major studios. We wanted to take a superhero and drag him through the muck endured in a way. That i don't think a studio would really do at this stage in the game. Unless let's with great protestation allah yoga or something like that. So we wanted to show that indie filmmakers could dabble in that genre as well. Some max. fest is a alcoholic homeless man who has punched his way in from another dimension. Well we don't know but this is what he's portraying. So how'd you get into the role in. What kind of character work did you have to do for him. He's like a possibly schizophrenic. Drug addict drunk homeless fan. Who was under a bridge. So i got hooked up with a man who lived on the streets for twenty years and hung out with him and had a lot of talks with him and he would walk me through what a day would be. What would be the art of where certain where you go over the years. So i had a coach basically. How did you get hooked up with him. Who found him. I knew somebody connected to downtown missions. In fact i done some stuff downtown with him in the past. And so i called in a favor said hey man. Is there anybody out there that you think would be a good match for me to see two or expensive time with as prepare for this role and he came back and said yet really greater in the sky was a miracle i mean the way. He's putting his life back together. You know it's really amazing story. This guy has. But that's how i met. Him was through connection to the mission downtown. So what is it you did learn from him. Well i mean that lifestyle. It's scary and dangerous and unbelievable when you really think about. I mean hell on earth. There were things that i learned from him. Then were it's used into the stripped. We actually went out at shot things based on what he told me you start hearing the stories from the actual real life. It's just horrible. Breaks your heart when you hear those stories understand. Somebody goes through to survive over the course of the day you know. I'd love with atoms. Say he told me this. Do you think we could fill matter. Maybe i could say this line instead in because it goes along with what. He says ten cents on animals like that. A mess coach onset whose job it was the stand behind the monitor and make sure that on the scenes where i'm doing meth that those are authentic so i would come back from the scene and kinda look back and see him next modern he would turn a go fats. It or he'd come over and huddle up and be like okay when you're doing this and shooting was at tight schedule very Yeah seventeen issue. Holy crap i mean it was a lie he no. I didn't sleep for a couple months there. 'cause we shot in december that we were broken up by january with push a week so that we had to come back in january and finished filming and thank god. We did because a few weeks after we finish we were all for what was the most challenging thing about that kind of shoot. There's a couple of big tastes in one of them involves an action piece. So there's a scene where i have to break the door down. Tackle a guy swim on the ground and then get on top of him in the mounted position in just grounded pound punching while there's all this other stuff going on in the background and atom wanted a set camera with continuous visceral action. Scene with me breaking the door fantasia. All one take abobo into the camera. Blood spraying up in my face is i'm on on a background furniture smashing inevitably of course we always get to those shots. It's like okay end of the day and we can't afford to go into overtime and we've got one hour to get the threat in doesn't really give enough time to reset my blood on my clothes or reset my face or white. My face often reset furniture. So you gotta get it right once you get one shot or else you're not gonna make your day the always tricky ones because it's me cena behind the door trying to remember different things that i have to do all in character. Ron picked the guy up on the ground slammed bill kill him. Don't jam your knee. Jam on top of his knee. Get out of position with the camera. There don't hit the cameraman. Don't slide into that. Get up perfectly in frame. Bang blood sitting you. They need to do that. Then you need to get up biddy to punch the guy On have bought like a whole thing in anything goes wrong. Bump the camera whatever it is over. So it's those moments where you really feel alive and then on top of all of that. Do you have producer brain going to at the same time or are you able to put that aside and just focus on acting when you have to there to person talking scenes where you can get so into it that you're just by being in your somebody else what i'm talking about. You have to split your brain because there's so much blocking involved in precise landings landing at gymnastics flurries. So there is the art form of the enjoyment or whatever the territories were playing on to face while at the same time on the inside. Your two steps ahead. This has to go there that has to go there. I mean you have to produce rain. Yeah in that moment. Everybody's gone in. It's just you kind of directing yourself in this crazy locking challenge while you're still in character performing so there is a slit on very technical pieces like that defined that when you have like the fire lit about acting are those scenes that really get you going or is it the deep drama talky scenes all stuff in the fights. It's like a difference four. It's a good day team. Bits also telling the story acting to me always will be waiting for godot. It's two people on stage in a blackbox theater. Sounds different songs about what we're doing not to say that there aren't stunts fights and things like that in place but i think in terms of film which do so visceral real that. It's a different thing. So yeah i mean what me into acting as those traumatic scenes are the stage where you get the place something or even comedic scenes whatever it is all physical style a whole difference for having your own and finding these projects and taking your career into your own hands does that make it more fulfilling because it's coming from you completely to a certain degree. Yes i think. There's a lot more room to put your stink on something when you're also producing or directing in or rotate rewrote the senior. Doing because then the story really came from you or belongs to you or one of sodded it. Where when you're working on somebody else's production is that the things can't be collaborative but by come from the school where you don't change tennessee williams words you say them. The way the tennessee williams wrote them. If that doesn't make sense you need to do some more work to figure out why on true blood. Same thing it's like. I take alan ball's words and i say that you know i'm servicing is vision production where when you're producing there's more of your vision that's frozen especially if you're starring in. The film produce my final question that i always ask. Everyone and i think it's interesting asking you because not only are you an actor and a producer you are big into. Dnd and you're an author and designer so you're creative and all of these different facets but what does it mean to you to have this life in storytelling. It's amazing. I love sword zone and i come from harrods that are great storyteller in their own ways. I always love reading. If you gave me action figures. I just wanted to create a story with them or i was gonna drop pictures and characters and create their to tell to ever listen about them and that's really what i love and so adjusts dedicated my life to being able to do that like i said there was a period in my career. Early on where it's like. You just need to pay the bills you know. We don't make sense later. But you just need to keep working and keep growing in any direction on anybody's set a avenue and then you get to a place where it's like. Okay now. i think it's kind at least for me personally to get into telling the kind of stories. I think we're important. Or i think there's a way to be effective or make somebody feel something or think differently. And so now. That's what it's about for me whether that's reading a book or running a weekly doorbuster drag this game in part of the adventure module these things. That really excited me when i was younger. I'm getting a check all those things off the bucket list. It's all just figuring out how to sell stories in different mediums. I'm getting to do a lot of things on. I'm really excited about and i feel like i'm just at the beginning of it all. I can't wait to see where it goes. Archenemy comes out december eleventh. Joe manganiello. I am so happy to talk to you today. 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Episode 169: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

The Film Buds Podcast

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Episode 169: The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

"Hello everybody welcome back to film buds. Podcast this episode number one hundred and sixty nine and my name is henry. And i'm paul this week. We have a review of the falcon and the winter soldier. The the complete season and then we also have a listener question concerning our favorite marvel film and scene or moment. Whatever you wanna call it so get to that for news. I figured we can maybe touch on the new trailer for a quiet place part to perhaps you know. I don't know if there's a whole lot going on but it to that you know maybe some other stuff we watched. So you're you're in for a great show as always will paul. How are you. i'm doing well you know. It's mother's day right now when we're recording My sister came into town. She's doing well She came in for mother's day and we did a whole big lunch. Thing was very enjoyable. And then yesterday i saw a friend of the show nick delgadio. He came over to the house and and we all hung out was good time. I got my second vaccine on friday. Sweet yeah And i ended up running into a guy from unc. G media studies I can't remember finish the program or not. His name was george Tall blonde he was from. He's from wilkes. Borough and i had him like he was in my media history class with donaldson and so my wife and i we just finish up getting our shots and you have to wait the fifteen minutes and we just sort of wander around. We get some snacks for the drive back. Because wilkes-barre is like an hour and a half. From where i am and we are at the checkout line and my wife is like updating her walgreens information and i'm just staring at the cashier and i'm like i know this man and sound like did you. Unc and he's like. Oh my god paul and so it. Was this weird little. You know kismet moment. It was it was kind of fun. You know yeah that of a small world but smaller what have you been up to. I- congrats i guess on Signing up for the air force. Yeah so yeah i This week i joined the air force. So it's something i'd wanted to do for since i was maybe middle school and the last couple of months of been going through the process and this past this past week i finished it so and we can talk later on about how it might affect the show but it won't be for at least a couple of months so you know we don't need to worry about it right now but yes i did. I did that. I finished up school as well so pretty pretty busy week. Also paul a bigger than both of those things. I have an update about my candy purchase. Yeah so i bought a six pack of bazooka gum sixty pieces each. I think so lot bazooka gum. Very disappointing. paul haste not good initially and after about five minutes almost unshowable. Yeah so if anyone so yeah very disappointed if anyone wants three three hundred and fifty pieces of bazooka gum. Just let me know. I have it on hand. I'd be happy to send it to you but the other stuff. Good i got some butterscotch candy. Slow hard candies. That's been nice so but stay away from bazooka bubblegum. Everybody it's not. I don't think it was bazooka that i've got a gross gum story Please i don't think it was bazooka gum. I think it was like bubble tape may be but there was this one time i remember when i was like a kid and we were driving the car at night and i'm sitting in the back and i'm chewing on the scum and i can't remember how long it had been chewing it for and it suddenly just completely turned to a liquid. Suddenly i just have this weird. It almost was like pepsico consistency. Gum in my mouth. And i was just like Just an absolute panic and my mom's like what's going on in you know. I'm just i'm trying to explain what's going on trying to find a place to spit out you know we're in the car. It was just not a pleasant experience. Yeah and see. I'm someone who. I can chew a piece of gum for a long time. And not. Really get tired chewing. Even if the flavor goes but like with bazooka like y-y-you notice the change when it goes from just okay to to terrible so that was too bad lesson learn. Well like the shelf life of bazooka. A certain point. It's it's essentially just going to be almost like a fucking slug you know you'll be able to shoot at small animals. Yeah maybe hang onto it so you control. Yeah i mean. I have plenty of it. We go amunitions in short supply these days. Yeah yeah other than that. Not too much to mention really yet. She's been kind of a hectic week. Pollen anything else for you we got. We got some stuff to talk about for sure. Yeah i mean. I'll just let users now or listeners. Know that i'm that. I'm working on a script and once once henry's sort of looked at the treatment and i've got some inscriptions donal i'll tell y'all more about it. Yeah yeah. I'm excited to read it and finally now a school being done i have afternoons free. So yeah you have have real time again. Exactly yeah my head is somewhat clear you know so. Yeah yeah i'll let you know about that so cool well. Should we get into falcon. Absolutely are yeah. Let's get into our review of the falcon and the winter soldier which is on disney plus now and we do have a clip. So take a listen. Well i don't trust red wing on a minute. You don't have to trust red wings but i'm gonna go see if he's right. I have a feeling it might be a part of the big three victory the victory. Why pick three. Androids aliens and wizards thought it definitely. No it's not. Every time we fight we fight one of the three. So he fighting now gandalf. How do you know about ganda. I read the hobbit in one thousand nine thirty seven when it first came out. So you see my point. No i don't. There are no wizards. dr string is a source. Of a sorcerer is a wizard without hat. Think about it right. I just i just came up with this crazy but that's not the point. These guys aren't magical all right. They use brute force. Just like you the incredibly annoying guy in front of me with the staring pro. I'm calling me away because not all righty so the falcon and the winter soldier is created by malcolm spelman and stars. Anthony mackie sebastian. Stan wyatt russell. Aaron kelly men desmond shyam. It's all mixed up here. Daniel bruhl of course. Am i forgetting anybody big Emily van camp yes. I think that's pretty much everyone. Yeah and the synopsis is following the events of ventures in game sam wilson slash falcon and bucky barnes slash winter soldier team up in a global adventure that tests their abilities and their patients. So this is i guess. This is the second marvel disney plus show and and we did review one division back when it came out So check that out if you haven't already and yeah well paul. I mean you. You saw this week to week yeah. I kept up with it week to week. Like i with one. Division i would. I would usually watch it Twice actually pretty much. Every every week i'd watch on my own. And then i would also watch it with my family with my parents and so i would doubled up on it and so then i also watched at one more time before this so i've watched it three times. Nice yeah well with having said would you like to to kick it off. I mean you're looking forward to this law. Yeah yeah sure. I'll take it away I was looking forward to it. You know. I obviously had a lot of guesses on where it was going to go and a lot of my predictions came out right but overall you know this is really phase one of of something new for marvel and so even though i think that much like with wanda vision there some things that maybe could've used a little bit of ironing out. Or maybe if. I thought that there needed to be an additional episode or two honestly for the most part i think that Falcon and the winter. Soldier is a really really successful second show for their outings if you look at their phase one of movies it's a pretty rocky road ironman incredible hulk iron man to thor captain. America like it's i think people have varying degrees of enjoyment of those films. But they're kind of totally all over the place and quality wise all over the place. But so far. I've really enjoyed this and for me falcon and the winter soldier. Even though it it didn't get to do as many crazy things as like wanda vision dead for me. It was a really really successful show. You yes i. I really liked the captain. America and winter soldier dynamic. I'll be talking about it later. More later on when we do the the best of but i didn't love wanda vision and so i i was kind of looking forward to this because it was just i guess for lack of a better term it was. It seemed consistent. It was just going to be us show. You know it was going to have to jump around every every episode to something else. And so i think overall i think by the end i was enjoying it a fair bit. I thought started off. Pretty slow. And i felt like it kind of got into the the tv show format obligation of having some of the biggest moments be like cliffhangers and that way i felt it was kind of manipulative but i think that the last two episodes are so good that it really helps to carry that elevates it and so by the really left with a lot of a lot more emotion and complexity than i thought it would starting out Yeah i think. Anthony mackie and sebastian. Stan are both great as those characters. And i think that they're great together as well. I think some of the banter and the riffing of each other it worked whereas a lot of marvel characters and relationships can feel kind of forced in that way. But i thought they pulled it off pretty well so yeah overall. I think i liked it more than i thought i. I would definitely liked it more than one division. But i'm sure there are people who maybe feel the exact opposite to that and yeah so yeah i mean that was a yeah i liked it. No yeah I think that the places that it probably soared the best. Were the places where it had a really solid grip on what story it was that it wanted to tell if i had to give the show any kind of paying i would say unlike wanda vision which was very singularly about grief and about wanda and about vision. This show is is spinning. A lot of plates you know. It's it's picking up. Where essentially the movies kind of finished. Off where steve's journey finished off it's trying to pick up where bucky journey left off because really never got any closure from his journey in the movies in any kind of way you know where this show for me. Probably gotta weakest was in some of the politics surrounding like the blip and you know in wanda vision. I thought they did a really great job. At at least showing the chaos of like the blip back and here it felt like some of the politics around the blip back got really really muddled for me. And i think that that's probably where i would have to give the show. Some of my hardest criticism is that even though i think aaron kelly men is carly morgenthau is doing a great job. She's really charismatic. As an actor you want to watch her. You want to root for her. Even her character doesn't necessarily always earn that feeling in terms of the hard writing. And so for me. That's probably one of the weakest points. And i think you know falcon and the winter soldier has six episodes at about fifty minutes pop and honestly i think that even though it was a little bit slow up front. I probably could've used one episode. Where i got a little bit more of what life was like in between the blip the out in the back so that way i could understand what world is that. She's fighting for in her in her whole throughout the show. I agree yeah. I think that her her motivations and her background were kind of messy. You know and i i agree. I think she great. And i loved when she was on screen but then there were times where i was like wait. Why am i watching her. Why why is she saying these things and so. I think that that would probably be the weakest point. Although paul i mean we have to has to be said the biggest crime of this show. Bring back the hair for the winter soldier. Know the worst thing is they tease it at the beginning there like there's a little flashback and they take away. Yeah we five episodes with long hair and the last what the short. It's a five out of five. He's gotta have the short it. Just the long hair with the high neck makes his face look scrunched you know getting aisin and high in tight you know it helps bring his jaw line back in the frame alex. It's a much better luck. Honestly though you know. I think it's a. It's a tremendously acted show like Cast wise. I think my weakest actors. Probably emily van camp yes. She doesn't do much no. I don't know if it's the character. I don't know if it's her. I don't know if it's the right. Like i don't know what it is but for me. She was kind of also a bit of a mess. Yeah at i mean. She's one of those kind of recurring characters isn't she. She kind of pops out a yeah. Yeah she so she shows up. I in the winter soldier as the shield agent. Who is spying on. Steve and reporting back and kind of like a ghost handler almost feels like you know And then in at the end of winter soldier shield is dissolved and she goes off in joins either the cia or the fbi one of the alphabet boys and then in a civil war. We see her when they arrested in germany Because she's working with everett ross. The martin freeman character. And it's at that point that she steals the wings and steals the shield. But we don't see that we just see her like sort of after that steve and then it just sort of like drops off you know. She sort of goes away and we haven't seen sight or sound of sharon until now. Yeah yeah yeah. I could i. I feel like that character could have just been cut from the movie or from the show. I don't think it would have lost all that much. But now we're going to do some kind of spoiler discussion. Because i feel like we should talk about the whole captain america white russell and yeah we can go into as i i. I feel like we can get into spoilers. Okay so yes so. If you haven't seen the show yes spoilers ahead and you can always check the show notes. Skip ahead if you don't want anything spoiled so all right so now The white russell is the he's replaced. Or he's the captain. America replacement for steve rogers. And yeah i. I heard a lot of lot about this when the show was was airing. How did you feel about it did you did you like. Did you think it worked as a story. Okay so i think for the most part. His story works really really really really well. A few asterix and caveats. I don't think that his journey toward sort of being shithead is all that surprising or overly quick. You know. I think very much from the start. They show someone with a lot of self doubt with a lot of A lot of obvious lack of respect for the position that he inherits and so. I think that you know that that drive for the instant respect of the title without any of the work really works for building the character there so many moments where i'm like. I'm not sure if this was necessarily baked into what they were trying to sell. But i feel like it helps make it more impactful you know. I think it's really impactful that it's not just that he loses a fight to non superpower people but the group of black women that absolutely beat asked like a bongo and so i think that it helps sort of sell some of that white entitlement that i think that they are really trying to sell into that character. I think the story even works that he gets kind of a slap on the wrist After killing someone in broad daylight. Because that's something that we see happen. All of the time So i think that those parts of the journey really really work. It's pretty much everything. After that point where it gets a little bit muddier. I think that his scenes with julia. Louis dreyfus all of them. I think should have been post credit scenes if they were in the show at all I know i i. I love julia louis. Dreyfus fun i. I agree that they're kind of shoehorned in They feel they are very much. Nick fury showing up at tony stark's house at the end of iron man And so therefore they should have in. My opinion really been reserved for the main narrative The things that don't work for me is is kind of how after that. It gets very wishy washy. He gets to get the outfit instantly you know like we don't get any kind of real wait time before he comes back as his his new persona and i also think that they don't sell me on the relationship between he and his wife or partner. Whoever that woman is to him. And i think that the the part of it could have used a little bit more shaping because also it doesn't seem like you know. Sam is too upset about seeing him again and they did not leave on good terms. So i think i think that that part of it gets a little bit muddy. What about you. yeah. I think why russell i think maybe in the first couple episodes. I found him obnoxious. And maybe that was the point. He's kind of whiny in. At and so i don't know if that totally worked for me but i think that his the best moment is when he does kill the guy and you're left with that and you know everyone has their cameras out. I think that works really well. I thought that was kind of risky. For like the marvel. Cinematic universe as you know portraying that and i thought that worked quite. Well i agree. I i think the stuff with julia louis dreyfus. She's great and i i love her. You're kind of. It's so vague at times and she treated so vaguely. That's a little frustrating Unless you're completely connected to the comic books and ceasing where all that goes. Which which. I'm not but overall i thought he was good. I don't know sometimes. It is just kind of weird seeing someone else in the captain. America costume even about is the point. I i understand that the point but there are times whereas like not doing much for me. You know i really. I preferred falcon and the winter soldier dynamic so much more. And i could've used even more of that really. But i think we have even talked about daniel bruhl yet. The scene stealer. Yeah he i mean he. He's great and paul. I know you love the character. I don't know if he's a character who i'm super. Comp compelled by. I feel like i'm just not given enough time with them to really get my teeth into him How how do you feel about it. Maybe it is. Because like i just think daniel berle brings so much to the character you know. I feel like even if i guess. We don't have all the time that i would like with him. I never once. In how formed his worldview is sure And so i think that for me again. It's maybe one of those instances of of you know. Maybe the story doesn't always support everything that it should be supporting for that character. But that actor he kills it for me daniel I've never. I've never been disappointed by him. He's an inglorious bastards for anyone who doesn't know he's the he's the sniper that's a creep on Melanie laurent character. The The french jewish girl who runs the movie theater. So he's great and everything that i've seen him in and i really enjoy his crystalline views. I enjoy watching him. Go back and forth with anthony mackie and like going back and watching it especially on like this third view and really sort of sinking into his monologue is. You're like no. This is a guy who has like of very very clear idea of what his character is so for me. He always works. He's always funny. One of my favorite moments is when he's like you know what do we have to litigate. What may or may not have happened. And he's like there's nothing to litigate shop the man so i think that he does a great job with his little asides him in him and bucky are probably the funniest characters for me the whole thing with their little side dialogue but now i think that for the most part he works for me. I think that he actually works better here than he did. In winter in a civil war. I agree with that. Yeah yeah yeah. Do we wanna talk about sharing being the powerbroker. Sure that that works. You know when you said that. I had like a complete blank now so now. Explain exactly what that is okay. So the power broker character is in the d. Wanted explained like in the show or in the comics large in the show. Okay the powerbroker is essentially. Just a sort of dread pirate roberts named for a mythic crime figure and what the powerbroker does is use information knowledge and resources to play people against whatever the powerbrokers means are so for sharon that is toward whatever sort of keeps her because she has the power broker at the top of this mythical crime city madge report ryan keeps. Her wealthy keeps her insulated And essentially what she's doing as she was trying to you know in the in the turnover after civil war beg borrow and steal her way toward a livelihood again and that included everything from selling stolen art to selling information to helping arrange hijackings To of course working with the guy who's trying to recreate the super soldier serum which is something that obviously would have a lot of monetary value to a lot of people all. Explain this to me. Like i'm five. I'm just getting to be honest. That's not something that was even on my mind very much and you know in maybe it might be the opposite opposite for some people but i feel like the threads of that kind of thing are kind of lost on me. I can say. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it so i i don't know if i would be would say yes absolutely or or no definitely not okay. I got that i think okay. So the only reason. I've heard a lot of people be like. I'm not sure it works for me and i think the reason that they ultimately ended up making. This house is because they had a character from the comics on their hand. That doesn't really have a strong enough singular origin story for anyone to really raise a finger and wag it about. That's not how it goes. And then they also had sharon where it was like. You know we're doing this whole thing about the legacy of the shield steve's actions the echo of the negative and positive consequences of shield of steve choosing to do something and so here we have share in the kind of almost complicates the legacy of the shield in her own way by her choosing steel. It for captain america great. Everyone else got to write off in the sunset. I didn't and so. I think that they had this character from the from the show from the movies that they didn't really know what to do with and i think that they had this very vague comic character and they were like what if we just fixed. It was like you know. Now we've got you know a better bat x. story for this this character and that's kind of how it feels for me. I wish you all could have seen paul's little hand motion that he say. Yeah and now. This is completely random. Talking about the shield. The physics of the shield itself had do. I mean i can understand more. So like steve. Rogers how do people catch it so they'll fling it super speed and then suddenly like anthony mackie can have it on his arm as it's flying at you know thirty miles an hour. Yeah especially since. It does have like straps yes. People don't like catch it slighted. People literally will like straight put their arms through the strap and now considering we're talking about open message considering we're talking about the comic book story i i don't actually care all that much but just out of curiosity i'm like how you doing that. I mean because even with with with with the white russell it's like you're you're a great soldier but means they could at least have them catching it in some way but anyways actually one thing that i did really enjoy was in the big fight between falcon winter soldier and russell how he used the shield felt different than how how. Steve fought with the shield. Yeah that and. I really enjoyed that. And i gotta give the show a lot of proxy no wanda vision. And this was my prediction. Wanda vision was really raining in a lot of budget because it was going to be doing loki and looking in the winter soldier which are two shows that automatically demand big budget and so. I think that this show has really some of the best action sequences of the nc. You i love. The inventiveness of both of falcons chases In the wing suit the first one in the middle east and the second one over the water in new york. I really enjoyed both of those. I really enjoy the the fight between the three of them in the warehouse. I think that this show has some really enjoyable really. Fun action beats. I enjoy watching the door. Malaysia throw their own spears to other ones. And and just sort of pick it up and keep going with it. You know this idea that a weapon is sort of. Not just for me. It's sort of like a universal tool that you can pass around to change the circumstance. I guess also getting into spoiler talk. We also get the reveal of isaiah bradley. That was that was great. And this is this. Is i think probably where the show's seems. Get the best for me. Because ultimately the whole thing is about the complicated legacy of the shield as a metaphor for the complicated identity of you know american symbols in american politics and it gets caught up in everything that that comes with a modern context. You know race issues. Global policing You know refugee status acceptance. And and i think that the show especially when it comes to isaiah does a great job of of highlighting some injustices in a in a in a way that i i don't think a lot of other shows like this go to those depths and talk about. Yeah i would agree. I i love that whole storyline and i loved the payoff And that that final moment with them. I think was great in the museum. also the speech that Anthony mackie gibbs at the end and on the street is amazing. I loved it. Yeah i thought that was great and really well written and so yeah that that storyline line. That thread was definitely what i think elevated it for me the most and i think that the i guess maybe i just wasn't paying much attention but like i guess when around the time of war came out. I think some people were saying that it looked like the winter soldier. What was going to become captain. America that's kind of what i heard on the online but at this point it does make a lot more sense for the falcon to become that. And i guess they have. They've greenland a fourth captain. America film With the falcon and the winter soldier creator. And and i'm guessing anthony mackie's is coming back for that right. Oh yeah. I would assume so. Yes so there have been a few people who have held The mantle of captain america. After steve rogers in the comics the first one was john walker and he throughout the comics had a nebulous history as good guy antique hero. Bad guy He's really danced around all of those sort of spots depending bradley. What's a captain. America and then bucky barnes so the original civil war comic and i think that this might be where people were getting that thought the original civil war comic Actually ends with steve rogers being shot. The whole comic plays out world's different than the movie does and at the end of it like he's about to pull john russell in and straight. Pull the shield down on tony's head and a whole bunch of first responders tackle him and he's like i'm doing this you know in the name of freedom and they're like well great. Look at what you did to the city and he looks around and the superhero war has has decimated city blocks so he gives up the shield Gets arrested a steve rogers and then baron zemo arranges for him to get shot and killed on courthouse steps and so then after that it's bucky that ends up taking over the mantle of captain america for a time and then they went through. I think it was the marble. Now reboot in like twenty fifteen For those of you not in the know comics especially more recent history love to constantly kind of do a start over and find some sort of event or something to end one universe. And then do a full reboot and so did the same thing. Again and steve rogers In that ended up losing the captain of this captain. America serum lake degraded in his blood and he becomes old man. Steve and in that he gives it to falcon. They're going back to like the two thousand fifteen line up and pulling a lot of inspiration from there. That's where we're getting. Kate bishop as hawkeye hawkeye. Show that's where the image of low key with a vote for loki pin. And all of that comes from that reboot That's why we're going to be getting miss. Marvel marvel comic con. Came through the twenty. Fifteen sort of reboot. So they're currently really drawing very heavily on on that sort of crame point okay. Let's see. I'm trying to think of other things. You know what i did. I really liked the winter. Soldier's arc especially at the end. You know about how he's able to find find peace and early some some some version of peace and so i think something you know marvel can do. That doesn't always do it Perfect every time. But i think when they do well. It's really great and they can't hit good emotional. Beats much more than you would think with a book character. And so i i think the winter soldier is one of the best examples of that for me. Know for sure Honestly so i wrote in college. A whole essay on the politics of the mcu breaking down iron man and his friends and foes and their political sort of meetings and things and captain america and his friends and foes in their meetings and one of the things that i always found interesting. Was that captain. America's whole sort of group of of cohorts you've got an ex russian ex-pat who's trying to reform her ways you've got a dad who who moonlights as a farmer And just wants to live a normal life and then you've got a former friend who has. Ptsd who was used as a tool by multiple government agencies And then you have a guy who was a good soldier who saw some things but came out on the other side and now is working with Veterans to help get them through some of their trauma and things like that and so in endgame. I really enjoyed how steve was then. Sort of working a counselor. It felt like a nice nod to his departed friend. Sam one thing. I really enjoyed this and going back to emotional moments that landed was. I loved the discussion between Bucky and sam where we get to see sam kind of pull out that i used to work with people like you. Oh yeah thousand. Yeah that was probably one of my favorite scenes in the show. Yeah it's a beautiful little character scene of just like two guys. Having a conversation you know essentially throwing the ball around all. Do you know. It's a shield that they're throwing back and forth. But you know it's it's just two guys who have some background and have history just talking in. It's a good scene. Yeah i agree How'd you feel about the captain. America suit for anthony. Mackie love it really huge fan. Yeah but i know that you were the one that have more issues with like falcons costumes through the movies and things like that everything but the goggles i like okay. Yes still even with the cap suit. Now that made it worse. I think i. It's the same thing with his falcons who i don't like the red goggles. I wish they could just that. I don't know why that's such a big deal. May i can't tell you why. But every ever since i ever. Since he first came on screen. I was like i don't like that does i. I wonder if our listeners have an answer. Is there a reason why they're red beyond like comics like is there like a tactical reason for the red. Yeah i don't know and again like everything else about is fine. I think anthony mackie's great. And i think the overall design for his captain america is great. I just goggles make it feel a little more cartoony for me but everything else. I like about a lot. Which maybe like the ant man thing where they could like retract away. They'd be better in black or maybe clear. Yeah i think the color just makes it a little a lo little goofy for me but you know not a big deal. I'm not gonna let a catapult my my review but yeah i otherwise i thought he. I think he's great. And i can't wait to see where where he goes with that character. No yeah i mean at the end of the day You know the show is all about restoring the legacy of this thing figuring out your own way into it and really the you know at a certain level getting to be a hero isn't something i guess that like people can can choose for you you know and and it's also not always about the past. Sometimes it is about the future And and you know you have to be aware of where some of the things in the past were based and came from and how it shaped a moment to now but also sometimes it's it's more about how you can take that and find a positive way to move forward with that and reshaped what that legacy means and i think the you see that echoed with his journey to accept becoming captain buggies journey of accepting who james buchanan. Barnes was and is now. I think you see it in salmon. Sarah having to deal with their parents boat And i think that you see it in the echo of of isaiah bradley and restoring the sort of honor and dignity in memory of his seat. Yeah i agree. And i think in terms of the especially the scene with with salmon bucky towards the end. I think it does a good job of that. I feel like not a lot of others do where it actually shows the character trying to be a hero of sorts and trying to be something more and you know anthony mackie giving that advice guidance to bucky barnes is not necessarily something that he did before and he is becoming captain america because he's taking a risk and he's trying to grow and he becomes successful at it And you know by the way folks if you ever want you now in my opinion and maybe i'm wrong. I think the costume designer. Did this intentionally doubt that they were trying to tell you that. Anthony mackie is the new steve. Not just the new cap but like he is fully embodying bat. Whole persona non. Just picking up the shield They do it even in the costume design. Because there are two. Or three instances where he's running around in a brown to red jacket and a green shirt. And if you go back and rewatch multiple captain. America appearances costumers love to put him in an ox blood to brown jacket and a green shirt. And i know that sounds like a really weird detailed notice but if you ever go back look for it i believe you. Yeah so i'm excited. You know excited to see where it goes and yeah well all anything else about. I mean we can talk about marvel some more with the listener questions about anything else about falcon now again. Are the politics always neat. And clean as i want them to be. No do. I wish that. I had gotten a whole episode of flag. Smasher backstory john walker. Back story share and Extra we kind of rolled into one. Where i could have gotten more time with these people. Yes but at the end of the day. I think that you really hit it on the on the nose. They managed to hit effective character moments. And even on the third watch through seeing blood on on the shield. You know had emotional response still seeing isaiah bradley. Seeing his statue still resonated hearing anthony mackie's speech and seeing him appear for the first time still resonated so even though the show might get points off for some of its politics and threads not fleshing out as well as i would like them to. It's still is hitting its moments hard and they still pay off. And they still feel earned. Yeah for sure. All right out of five stars paul. Afford yeah a heavy four as well. Yeah so all right. Well i guess we can. Since it's it's marvel related. We can go right into the marvel question if you're cool with that. Yeah of course. So the film butts podcast at g. Mail dot com is where you can reach us at also facebook twitter and instagram at foam buds. And you can access that all through the show notes. The film bud dot com and stuff. You're a new listener or you have been listening for a while. Please send us any questions comments. We'd love to hear from you in whatever way. Oh and so the one we have this week missy here is from solomon and solomon says greetings henry and paul lo. You seem to be doing a lot of favorites or best of lists. So i figured i would join in on the fun. I really enjoyed falcon and the winter soldier and wonder what your favorite marvel film was. Plus your favorite scene sequence or moment does not have to be in the same film commie basic but mine is the avengers assemble seen in the first of injury film. Look forward to hearing your responses guys. Solomon well solomon you know it. It may be a basic choice but like that's one of the most iconic moments of cinema from the last decade. So it's fine. What about what's your favorite henry. So my i mean. I've i've talked about on the show before. My favorite film is captain america. The winter soldier for sure and my favorite moment and it's in film is the causeway ambush to me. That scene for most marvel action sequences. I know we're not just talking about action scenes but to me. Most of the time marvel action scenes can feel very low stakes and i never you know. There's a lot of special effects. Usually i never feel like there's a lot of danger but i think the intensity choreography. The direction in that sequence is incredible. I think it's you know at eleven and it has such great close quarter hand to hand combat. i think sebastian stands performance as the winter soldier. Just has a physical presence is great. You know with the shiny metal arm and hit of course the long hair paul you know. Let's be real You know the and so yeah. I think his fight between Or or the the fight between the winter soldier and captain america in that scene. You know where he's on top of the car you know the knife in the truck sliding along all of that stuff. I love i could. I could watch that. Seen a million times and i have so yeah. That's mine now. I mean that's that's good a good pick. I mean Captain america the winter is definitely like a a real shift for the c. You in terms of quality of action and in terms of some of its thematic shifts. You know i mean that's it's it's definitely. It's a standard setter the emc for shore. Yeah one quick thing. That's it's in that movie and it continues. I love the winter soldier theme. Yeah i love that. What about you paul I'm really bad at favorites. You know it was recently talking to my wife about this. I'm really really bad at at picking favorites and making lists Just because there is such a breadth of content and things oftentimes fall into so many other sort of subcategory that it's hard for me to list like definitive favorites so honestly my favorite marvel movie and this is probably subject to change really honestly at any given moment Depending on the day all is that a madman complete collection. I see yeah that is actually yes. Thank you One of the crown jewels. Yeah for sure you know what i. I think that i might go black panther. Okay i think the it works so beautifully as its own movie I think it has great character work. I think that that's a movie. That is very crystalline in its ideas and it was such an impact for lake moments seeing that movie in theaters and seeing to step out that crowd as they chant. You know it was. It was something else to to see. And so that's that's probably my favorite marvel movie. It's it's really really solid. It's a great villain. It's a great hero. It's a great conflict or hero. Learned something from our villain an internalizes that in a meaningful way really good stuff my favorite moment while you think of that i. I didn't say why. I like the winter soldier or captain america the winter soldier. So let me shirt laid on us. Yes i mean aside from. I think the action is incredible. In that and again it would be my favorite of mcu. I think that the moments especially between captain america and black widow. I think there are a lot of quiet moments with them. That work really well as great emotional beats like the scene in the car when they're driving after they go to the mall The scene on the in the bedroom with chatting about things. I think all of that works really well and i think as upset before i think the the captain america winter soldier relationship is great and i think the the grittiness and and heaviness of the the backstory with the winter soldier like where you see him being Shocked by robert redford. And you know him. Trying to remember who steve was. And then being completely. You know brainwashed and erased. I think all that stuff is really poignant and i don't get that a lot with mcu not say other stuff is bad. But i think that really stands out to me as momzette. That will really stick with me. Yeah no. I think that's all really fair. I think my favorite acting moment or a sort of dramatic scene moment might actually weirdly. Come from the first thought movie It's the scene where loki confronts odin abou going to bring that up. Yeah yeah The scene where he confronts him about his his parentage is impactful it is to actors who are just doing a great job at being those characters in that moment. You feel tom hamilton's pain and it's a really really good seen My favorite moment might be. I'm gonna say the first thanos fight on titan. Because they go full anime in that thing and i love seeing you know doctor strange pullout like many armed form. I love watching him. Arto shadow clone. Jujitsu i really enjoy that whole sequence because it really feels like people pulling out every last single little trick in the book that they have and i really enjoy that sequence because it also it sort of desperate and at the end of it. It doesn't pay off and i really enjoy that. Yeah that's that's that's a good one. I think one emotional beat in the them. See that i love is when rocket l. Spot say robert raccoon rocket raccoon is talking about being torn apart and put back together again in the first guardians. I that's one. That's always stuck with me and i think bradley. Cooper's is a big reason for that his performance and so in the winter soldier. I like the scene where captain america goes to visit peggy the hospital or their retirement home. I think that works really well. And there are a lot of a lot of great moments. You know some comedic. Some you know some more heavy but those those would be my my standouts another great moment for me that honestly kinda hits and it goes back to to it. Being my favorite you know i love all three of the journeys to the spirit realm. I love to challenge. I journey where everything's good and it's like oh good you know. Hey dad and then i love kill mongers journey where instead of it being the ancestoral plains of africa. It's his apartment in california. You know his his should. He put apartment in california exactly as he remembers it and Then you go back and you have to return to the spirit realm and now. He's angry at his ancestors. And he throws that fury at them and he drops the gauntlet that they did wrong in that they were all wrong. And so like those. Are i think also three really really impactful moments for me. Yeah and also with black panther even just. The design of the movie is amazing costumes. Production is on all that stuff is really good. Yeah i don't know what they're gonna do with the second one They recently announced they did the whole big. Like three minute celebration of the movies where they released some of the titles and release dates of upcoming marvel properties. I know what they're going to do with black panther with kanda forever. But it's a it's a it's a high bar to clear. Yeah well well. Yeah i mean we can talk about more marvel for for weeks but Is there any other moments or any anything else about it. That you want to touch on quick little one that i always find enjoyable is the moment when tom holland is having his little hissy fit temper tantrum at the iron man suit and he's finally like you're not even here and he just jumps right out. Yeah oh yeah yeah. Tom holland you. He just shit his pants you can see. It is that characters. Like oh bok isn't expected. Yeah i mean again we. Could you know there are so many movies we talk about and we should talk about at some point. Yeah but yeah you know. I as much as i. I don't love tv. I'm curious to see what some of these other upcoming shows will do. And i'm sure in the end there'll be good. I really doubt that. But ana i mean what's the one coming out in a later this year that we got a trailer for loki. No no the movie shanxi and the legend of the ten rings bell looks pretty interesting. I'll say that. I'm pretty excited about it. Yeah and you're talking about with On may the fourth how you know star wars has kind of regressed a little bit while to say the least while marvelous kind of pushing forward and i think at this point i will definitely agree with that. Like a a s. Even though they aren't always perfect they are at least trying to do something different and expanded as opposed to saying. Hey wasn't this moment. The last jedi or in this moment and you know empire strikes back grayton. You remember that you know like i think that marble is on a much higher level than something like star wars. Yeah no and i. I'm not speaking. You know at at star wars out of out of like true. Hey i'm speaking out of frustrated love. It's my it's my child that i don't know why they're acting out whereas you're right you know. It doesn't always work. But they are always trying. And i think that what we also do have to remember maybe for some people who want to come down a little bit harder trying to say that you have to cut things slack. Nothing should get a free ride. But i do think that it is also worth remembering that especially with these first two shows. It's a little unfair to compare them to the movies to this is really phase one and if we go back and look at phase one of marvel again highs and lows all over the place So for right now. It's going really well and i am excited to see where else it's gonna go. Yeah okay anything else will now. I think that covers it from our thank. You solomon solomon. He didn't tell us what your movie was. You said that your moment was avengers. You didn't tell us your movie. So many blew it. No you can get us next time. And if anybody else has their favorite either moments or or movies police in your less over email you know again the film let's podcasts at mail dot com or you can just comment on any of our our social media posts anywhere anywhere you like. I honored to monitor them all. So i'll see it cool. Well i guess we can always briefly touch on the new trailer for a quiet place prior to that comes out pretty soon. Yeah in theaters only her. So now paul you. You said that you you really loved the first one and we did review it on the show. I mean you weren't there but we did talk about on the show. So how are you feeling about part to you know i was. I was hesitant. I guess about like all. I'm always hesitant about a sequel. The first one left on such a great powerful note and it had such a good story. that i really really like the first one and i was. I was kind of curious. What do you do with the second one of this concept and based off this the second trailer you know. I'm still interested. i am going into. It's still with you know. Always a certain level of skepticism But there's nothing in that trailer that made me go. I think i'm gonna hate what about you. Yeah i i liked the first one. I love it as much as some people did. But i still thought it was pretty interesting and think with this one. I love kilian murphy. I've seen them before. I love him. I'm always cited. Excuse me. I'm always excited to see him. I think my only worry about this one is it's going to be like a a war of the worlds scenario where you spend a lot of time inside needlessly. There's like that that scene in in war of the worlds towards the end. That is way too long. And i'm worried that it's going to be inside this little factory or house that they encounter kilian murphy and and it's going to be like you're stuck inside and you're just wanting to know what's going on outside Again that could just be clips from the trailer. But that's my only real worry. I think otherwise it looks good. I think it looks pretty pretty intense. And i love emily blunt and i really like John krasinski as well and so. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it. I i don't know if it looks mind blowing. Though no i i guess i'm going in hoping that i can at least get something. That doesn't disappoint me. And maybe that sounds like a low bar to pass but come on folks. Let's be honest. We've watched movies lately. It really just doesn't have to disappoint me. And i'll probably walk away pretty satisfied for it to disappoint me. It would have to feel like they shoehorn killian life. That would be something that i think would kind of bring down that movie for me would be like a really forced in and and then she found new love. Yeah yeah i'm. I'm hoping that isn't the case either. So yeah well that comes out. That one comes out this month so so stay tuned paul any other up good. I was just gonna say You know. I know that we kind of did a little bit off marvel out of all of the upcoming movies. You know Shanxi legend of the ten rings. Black widow Black panther kanda forever. The marvels the eternal 's fantastic force spiderman. No way what those are you most looking forward to That's tough you go. I'll i'll i'll think oh i forgot also doctor strange in the multipurpose madness and you know what i think. I'm gonna make that when my pick l. and guardians line three oops. Oh well i'm gonna go with doctor strange just because i love same rainy and i want to see what he does and apparently he got a lot of creative control with the film at its shot like sam raimi fell and i can't wait to see what he does with a character that should be much weirder. The net first movie made him out to be i. I would say. I would say that an eternal 's okay yeah louisiana's crack at marvel. Yeah and i'm i. I'm curious to see angelina. Jolie part of it. that'd be that'd be interesting. So yeah those those would be my two. Okay yeah all right so in any other news paul now not not overly. So how about you. Nothing that's that's about it. I guess what you wanna do. Some picks the week before we wrap up. Yeah sure let me think think catoon paths bent the list. Thank you what if we've been watching lately. I wanna go and consult you know what i recently watched two fast two furious and you know. Even though first off. I enjoy the franchise. I love a good. I love good car movie. And also i enjoy i refer to fast and furious. I'm sure that someone would have an aneurism as they as they heard this. I refer to it as a meat had soap opera. It has all of those sorts of narrative turns. I mean. for god's sake we now have an evil brother reveal in the new one. It's a soap opera for all intents and purposes by any other name But i always have enjoyed a lot of the chemistry of the cast. And i've enjoyed some of the characters and so i was. I was watching fast two furious. And it's just as silly as any of the other ones. But honestly what i didn't realize how much And and this is i. Guess a telling statement. I didn't miss vin diesel. That much in the second one the whole time. I was watching it. I was like you know what not on this. That's fair i. It's i guess it's been a long time since i've seen the first you as much as i think the rock. I hate the rock. I think he's a little over hyped at times. I think that he does add some presence. To the the later films. I think going back and watching the earlier ones. There is something missing for me. But no that's fair vin diesel. You know he has moments i. I'm not gonna. I'm glad he's not in a lot of things. Yeah so also of course legend of cora. I finished book to Which is so good after you hit that. That storyline with the story of the first avatar which is just a beautiful animated episode. It's great storytelling. And the story really picks off and titans up from there and sees them to close out really strong. I'm really looking forward to season three. That first episode was a lot of fun. I love the reveal of the evil air bender. Love that it's voiced by punk legend. Henry rollins big fan of that. That's pretty much everything that i've been watching lately. You know especially since like this week. I was doing some rewatching of stuff. My wife and i watched guardians volume two and we continue our watch through of the mcu eventually once we finish watching all of them. I'll reveal the first round of our bracket we've been making a bracket and so We're trying to time it out to where we'll essentially finish phases one through three and then the next week will go in and watch black widow. Okay and that's kind of what we're framing for right now. So maybe i'll actually reveal our bracket partially complete Just so that way. I'm not having to wait until july. So yeah right now. Guardians did it was paired against guardians to on the bracket and it was guardians that moved on okay and even watching not too much this week just with everything going on. But i i have ira watched arrival Didn't one and i like it overall. Still i think that prisoners sicario and blade runner are better than this. I think it's still like for one thing. That johan johannson score is amazing in this so it's so good and i i'm sad. He's he's no longer with us. But i think it hit some emotional beats that you would not expect you know For a film like this and some people criticized how the aliens were kind of the design. Were was a little blah for this kind of film. I don't really mind that. I think and i. I like the language aspect and trying to decipher all that. That's really interesting pretty much. My only criticism would be. I think that the callback to like two thousand and one are a little much at times. And so i think as a whole it's lesser than those other films. I mentioned but it's still really worth a watch. If you like saifi. And i think amy adams and jeremy renner are are great together in and then i really watched horrible bosses which You know the the comedy with with jason bateman. And i i still like it. It's not nothing nothing incredible but it's a fun watch pretty disposable and that might be about it. I i've just been watching. I'm almost done with seinfeld. And so yeah. I've just been a little little busy this week. But yeah the only other thing that i've been doing is i've been playing a little bit of the the remastered destroy all humans. Nice how is it you know. I was a big game when i was a kid. And it doesn't necessarily change some of the functional problems the game like the the flying saucer still kind of flies like ship ohio. But i enjoy that game. It's funny it's still weirdly relevant. You know some of the jokes still land really really well so i like it still. I'm enjoying it. It's a great kind of time. Filler game you know. When i i'm not sure in the evening what i wanna do and me and my wife just kind of hanging out and i don't want to stress myself out with like overwatch competitive or something. I'll just go and do thirty minutes. Destroy all humans. You know nothing wrong with that. Yeah okay well anything else. Paul about anything now Hopefully i'll have more to tell y'all about the script i'm writing Next week yeah honestly not too terribly much okay. No worries all right. Well i guess. Yeah i guess that is about it for the show. Sadly now next week paul. I have absolutely no idea have given a moment's thought and anything come to mind for you. there's that new millers versus the machines on net flicks. It's animated movie. Yeah it's it's from. It's produced by lord and miller who do the lego movie and Spiders so we could do that. I guess we could do the magic. Mike double follow up. You know for for our showgirls episode the mitchells versus the machines. Yeah that's that's the interesting matchup there. I mean really does not matter to me. I wanna flip a coin. Sure it's used google for that. Yeah let's. Let's have google flip. A coin will make magic mike heads. Okay let's see how we go all right on. Its the magic. Mike double double-seekers all right. Well cool that's fine with me. No problems there so cool. Yeah we'll look for that next week. We'll do magic. Mike and magic mike. Xl so yeah. That'll be should be a of fun and should be. Yeah so cool. Well i guess is about it not too much else to mention. If you haven't checked out the bonus shows at the film bud stop and camp dot com. You can check that out. We have about maybe seven or eight up there that you can check out on different directors franchises things like that and yes they updated on on social media but film dot com all that stuff and rate and review the show. If you've not already in thank you to the people who have. Yeah we'll palm in. Thanks as always. It's great to see you. Yeah thank you man You know since. I got my second shot. Maybe some time before you Deploy will or ship out for basic. We can sit down and do one of these and person to person you know i would love to. I would love to. It's been gosh. i mean it's been. It's been more than a year since i've done that with anybody so obese. Yeah that'd be a lotta fun cool. Well yeah. We hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. And we'll see next time

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Episode 44: Porsches / Port Congestion

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Episode 44: Porsches / Port Congestion

"Welcome nine influence. You fuck sticks We're supposed to wait thirty seconds. I don't know how we all knew that shit Last week though on fucked up he didn't hit record on the something he tried to explain it to us and we just didn't give up so but yet alas here we are. Yeah we came back to do another one and in some of the comments a couple of them said we should just stop. It's into that go. We should stop some loyal fans. Put all our effort into mic. Drop and i'm just a yes man. Fuck you so. I'm thanking. after. I read that i'm like okay. Yes man because you make good points. And i agree with you so i guess when you make good points the next couple of shows even if i agree i'm not gonna agree. Yeah no matter. What like Thank you know especially like the liberal mentality. Is that whatever your opinion is. It doesn't matter what mine is. Just whatever your opinion is. I'm just gonna disagree with them and argue with you now on. It's just gonna be a almost a debate. Clear liberal now great. Yeah so. I don't do that for a couple of shows. It trips me out. Especially because i went back and looked at some of the one guy who was really talking shit. I think his name's christine christopher some shit like that. It's it could be converted to a bitch name but In that he's talking about you know one of them. I love everything mike says. And there's a couple of episodes ago. Like i'm a yes man. You come to listen to what mike says. I agree with mike but it makes me. Yes man your dumb ass. Continue to watch mic drop. Because on here. I'm gonna agree except for the next two episodes next this disagreement every fucking thing every head might be like my car needs gas. No don't sugar in africa. Yeah that's wrong it only gas. Fuck your car. That's the new phone. Yeah very nice. Yeah really like some of the features on it The new samsung galaxy is not at all in palm trail. I made a sex tape with it. It was weird because it was just me what. I'm making the sex tape. And then the quality is really good even painted of erkin. Face on my thumbs. So strack motherfucker even got fast a couple of times to focus the boca's amazing. Yeah but what is cool about the phone honestly so when you first get it said of the camera. Unlike all the other iphones it actually has filter modes that it puts on route away. Oh no shit. as of you. Lack dynamic picture a broader picture. You select that from then on. Your pictures are like that and it's pretty neat. I'm digging digging it so far but say what we're gonna talk about day zone. You got anything. You wanna talk about outhern shit. You didn't hit record again now. I hear a cord. Hello everyone goes to see my face. Finally but this is kind of a. I don't know how much you follow supply chain and and all that but it's all over the news. How backed up and congested. All of the ports are kind of what's what's y'alls take on on that just global supply chain. You know we're talking about how car parts are taken almost ten weeks to get here. How does that mess. Everything up just from a global and just y'all's take on that first off i've never heard of indians at y'all that's number one. Yeah do you want me to just look at the camera and say y'all just fucking cowboy hat on. Yeah well. I mean. I'm wearing a texas hat so i guess that counts for something right now not really no go longhorns. That's an austin that's not even really texas. That's more california than anything dude. It's fucking crazy this shit. That's going on there. Fucking awesome losses. Goddamn mind lost fucking mind like their police are not Like they even put out statements basically like. Hey and unless you're you know there's a violent fucking activity taking place or your life is in danger. Call three one one and not nine one one A worker basically so So good luck with that. I don't think that says that at all like a nice work. Reassurance five one. That's what it said. I don't know i don't think it did say that's not what it said a dude ever since i can remember though austin's been the most fucked up city we've had in texas and then you have all the california people that are moving. They're a really fucking it up like our governor honestly probably won't make it but with some of the dumb ass laws he signed in this year. It's like and i'm a do whatever the fuck you want. Persian this abortion law. Thanks was his can nail in his coffin You can't have an abortion past six weeks now for those. That don't know that's that came up but what's offensive to me about. I guess not offensive. Because i don't do any of these things and i can't get pregnant but say you. Your kid has a medical condition. That's going to cost you the state hundreds of thousands of dollars throughout the year. Some people would just okay. It's better for me and my family and my situation and let this go and that's where a lot of people are like. No you made this choice. You have to have that baby where it's really fucked up to me is if you're raped molested. Which is a former rape and there was another one Was it the underage. You still can't have an abortion so if you get Past six weeks and that's keep in mind that's in texas. You can't have an abortion. You can go out of state and having abortion somewhere else. We just made it fucking difficult. That's all it's going to do. In my opinion yeah. I agree with you all table in oklahoma like we have the pot stands you know that are closer to us and these legal states pot san and abortion clinics. Heiser mother burger and having a portion or have an abortion. Then yeah the to me. There's there's a couple things wrong with that number one is you know like the thought of The the process of abortion certainly isn't something that i find attractive or easy to fucking swallow. It's also none of my fucking business. Yeah you know. And and i think that you just gotta let people do what the fuck they wanna do for the most part i get the gray area of let people do whatever the fuck they want. Unless it's hurting somebody else and people say well. It's you know murdering fucking child. Whatever but to me where i think. It's it's pretty easy to separate. That is that you know your responsible for that child. You know in every fucking way right so if you're saying hey you have to have that you know to me then at least have some sort of caveat that says okay then you the state. If you're saying that i can't have this in you can fuck and take care of it once. It's here because like you saddle me with the responsibility and not give me the chance to To terminate. Should i find that. That's the the best scenario and and i can't. I can't imagine a society that we live in this evil to the point with which there are millions of fuckin- and women that are like can't wait to get pregnant so wait till that motherfuckers three days from from birth and yank him out of there like that shit isn't happening. Now you know like that. That i guarantee you. That's not an easy choice. I mean yet but are there some women that historically have used abortion as a form of birth control. Yes or. I'm sure there are. Yeah i would also say it's probably a fraction of a fucking percentage of people to get pregnant but more than anything. Is it rules like that. Just don't fuck and work. All they do is piss people off. Is you know. Basically seal your fate as a edulis as a legislator or as a politician to not get fucking reelected which. I don't give a fuck about all that's going to do is force people to like you said go go to oklahoma or fucking new mexico or you know in their in their fucking bedroom. Where the goddamn coathanger You know they'll find a way around it or they'll drink fucking drain and try to do it that way or know. I mean push themselves down the goddamn stairs. I mean that's why we built a to store just in case just in case but you know but that's the reality of it is you know you're not you're not fixing any any fucking problem and for the for the moral victory that i think the group of people the thinks that they've gotten it really hasn't because i think most people You know agree that even in a state like texas or or a among the bible belt down south. I still think you know the majority of people think that you should be allowed to do what you want by and large but i think we should change it to eighteen years. You can aboard a kid up to eighteen years dark. I mean if if you're if you're financially and legally responsible for something you ought to be able to do what you want now again like cart before the horse type of scenario or or just being consistent if you're going to say hey you can't get an abortion past six weeks okay. Then i'm not financially or legally responsible for this little motherfucker then if you're gonna make me have it. Then you can take the onus on it. Yeah and i feel the same way. You know to play devil's advocate. I feel the way about for all the women out there. That say you know my body my choice fucking menu have no fucking say in it. Similarly is that if the man says hey. I can't swing this you know. We made a mistake. And i'm for an abortion and and the woman says nope fuck you. You're not going to tell me what i can or can't do with my body. I'm gonna have this motherfucker than than that should waive your right to the legal and financial responsibility that you're gonna put on that young man that You know that got you pregnant like you. You can't have it both ways. Yeah know and or at least. I don't think you should have it. Unfortunately both the government has it both ways in this case and women have both ways in this case you you can say. Yeah i'm having or no. I'm not the guy has no say in it But then get strapped with fucking Whatever responsibility no. I'm not speaking from personal experience. There's not some bastard fucking ritalin kid out there that That i tried to get rid of so allegedly. Yeah well i mean and the real fucked up part about that to me again is the chiefs who have been raped. The chicks who have got pregnant really fucked up ways. They can't do none. I mean some chicks when they get raped don't know they're pregnant for a long time and then now they're like oh fuck. I'm stuck with this. Kid i don't want or there's the same thing so that there's a medical called the dnc insurance. Don't cover that because it's technically abortion. But you miscarried a baby and it was so far along you have to go. Have it pulled out well. You can't do that now is that. Does that count too. If there's even there's no heartbeat that still counts because it's pass it was. Yeah i mean so to me that they went away from the chemical abortion. So you can't even take the pill now to chemically. Get rid of it so again like all things considered it's still this bill doesn't matter i mean it just doesn't like it's it's not gonna keep women from doing it if that's what they wanna do no different than california banning fucking fifteen round and above magazines dudes in california just go to arizona by the shit Or they smuggle it from fucking mexico drugs as an example like again. You know like these people that are super pro for that policy Think that's this. Huge moral victory put a w in the in the column for god type of thing and the fact is human nature you know proves it time and time again like they'll just find a way around it. So how does that answer. Your question about Problems at the port. The same thing we went from port to abort didn't even try to answer that question. I'll take a crack at it unless you want to. You go so. I can agree with you. Maybe no no. I'm not going. I'm not doing it. the porsche's fucked up. I mean we knew that was gonna happen when they start when you start fucking with china shit like that. It's just gonna. I mean it's just fucked. There's no other way around. Michael get more into it. I'm going to say it's a good thing but you go ahead. I'm glad we're taking a long time to get shit. Yeah i think there's a silver lining in two ways one is that our society is kind of a. i would say almost crippled. By a lack of impulse control with everything you know and social media and amazon or the two biggest culprits from that And and they've provided such a convenience with both information and the ordering of products that now people are accustomed to just being able to literally pull a phone out of their pocket. A couple of fucking taps with their thumb and groceries are showing up at their fucking house. Delivered fucking two hours later Never before in the history of mankind has that even been close to being in the realm of possible the way that it is now and so now It while you know to your questions ohana. It may seem like holy shit. There's this huge catastrophe if you go back fifty years it's not you know. Go back one hundred years. It's still way fucking faster. You know so in the grand scope of of mankind. It's really not that big fucking deal You know but it also so it does two things in my opinion silver lining wise number one is hopefully it knocks people on their ass a little bit in terms of being so goddamn impatient with everything But number two is it. It also serves or should serve as a wakeup call to americans in terms of being so goddamn dependent on so many other countries to provide us with stuff We should have learned this from cova. Fuck eighteen months ago when we're having to import sack rubbed fucking masks from china You know. I don't know why we we still have to learn this lesson over and over but The fact is is that you know manufacturing needs to come back to america in a huge way and the to me just serves as another star fucking reminder of that. I disagree i disagree. And here's why and here's why everything you just. It was totally wrong. But i mean in fact iraq we are. We're both guilty of it too. We want shit and we want it now. I it's used to. You had to wait for it. You know you order something and you'd have to give it tom nowadays. It's no i want it now amazon. Can you hear tomorrow in the fucking day. Lax and for instance. We ordered monitors for the new computer. They said they'd be here saturday to deal. They'll come sunday. And i'm pissed at this point beach. It's not hurting us. Any waiting a little bit longer not being recorded anyway probably getting audio anyway but Yeah so that's my take on it. I'm curious says an eighteen year old zoe. Lineal thing zeleny thing. What's your take. So i guess my take on it is and again you know i. I've worked in. Gold supply chain logistics. This entire summer dude. You're still you're still shitting high school cafeteria food. I mean you're not wrong but my take on it. Is that for me. it's more about. Hey what if there is like medical supplies on the ships that are coming in and what about these smaller businesses that are struggling to just get their items to their customers and then as the business are getting bad reviews for something that like fed ex isn't handling something that ups might not be handling something that you know. These freight companies that are sending ships from taiwan china. All the way to the l. a. are are really just fucking it up so for me. It's like these. These chinese companies that are owning. These huge shipping. Boats are kind of being too lazy because they know that. There's a lot of port congestion because america's the largest consumer in the in the in the world and we have all this just congestion and all this stuff that they don't give a fuck either. I mean hell one of the companies. I know the lost a container at see. I don't know how the fuck you was container on a boat but somehow it happened. Well so there's a couple of things like yeah. I agree but that does to me that there's two things with that number one is it. Just further serves like stop being dependent on other countries But that that's still only limits or mitigates issues like that to a certain extent. The fact is is that still happens here in the united states. Give personal examples. Is that. I got a message today from a protection dog. Client who feeds my food is like hey we ran out of food forgot to order. You know whatever you know even though it's on auto ship. Whatever the fact is is that fedex has two bags of my dog food for them sitting in fucking ohio for like the last four days. Just sitting there You know even though it was paid for priority shipping and whatever they fucked it up the fact is is that between amazon. And the fact that you know. There's almost twice the the the the population here in the united states has there was forty years ago. There's just a lot of fucking people that need a lot of stuff and vile out a fucking things and nobody makes their own anything anymore. you know so again like one hundred years ago like most people. They built their own ship like like they. A lot of times boot would make their own furniture. They would fix their own fucking cars they would you know farm their own fucking food. That doesn't happen almost anywhere anymore. You know so you've got this like hyper consumerism. Society that's just growing and growing and growing and growing You know and and so now it's like how do you fucking keep up with that. You can't you know. I mean we're essentially a fucking virus You know manning the planet and and overpopulating it to a point where. There's not going to be a way to sustain the appetite that that human beings have on this fucking planet at the at the rate that it's growing i mean if you look at the population increase i wanna say I think it was in seventeen. Seventeen hundred there was just shy of a billion people And now there's seven billion right and if you look at the scope of of mankind you know fossil wise about two hundred thousand years of human like people being on the fucking planet You know it's like if you condense that or scale it down to The the human history right is Is about three seconds of time on the on the scale of of planets being formed and whatever else and and even within our two hundred thousand year or so existence the last one hundred fifty to two hundred and fifty years is where almost all of us have all of the sudden. Come from you know. And so that that sustainability from population standpoint just flat out cannot be sustained. I don't care how efficient you make things how smart people are about permaculture and fucking maximizing the space that they're on whatever the fact is there we're at a point where there's too many fucking people on the planet and so the the problems quote unquote. You're seeing take place right now. That shit isn't gonna get any better. I don't give a fuck who's in charge. I don't care how much industry where the fact is is that we have insatiable consumerism appetites. That are just not going to be fucking stacey satiated. I disagree fuck you. you're wrong. I'm pretty sure we come fix. All this colonize mars. Yeah that would be total recall style. Total recall was a good movie. Three titties three titi titties. Imagine motorboat in three threes man. Because that's what do you want to slap the other. Well here's the good news is one is in your mouth and you got one on each hands. I mean in that regard. That's pretty an almost perfect center was a little smaller. So you gotta deepen. Yeah so that makes me think. Why aren't there three tits. Then you know because you don't need to write no So if you really only need one but there's two then why not three. I agree and disagree should be there should be. They should have utters. That's right so you got another question outside the port. I do and this is about the have you guys heard of the evergreen crisis in china. No it's like the fucking. I think it's the lehman brothers all over again but that the crisis economic crisis two thousand eight except the chinese version so yet another rip off but basically what happens is there's this massive real estate developer called ever grand and they took. I gets three hundred three hundred million or three hundred billion dollars. I think it's three hundred billion dollars of foreign investing into the they basically wanted to develop a whole bunch of real estate. They went bankrupt and they can't pay back. The unfortunate part is all of their investors were foreign investors and so basically the the chinese government for help and the chinese government said basically fuck. You figure it out yourself. And the chinese government put them in that position because they passed policies and laws. That said that you can't finance way. Their fans financing which is really messed up. but kind of what's what's your take on it. If those ripples were to hit the united states if they went into some sort of economic recession. I don't think they will to me. That sounds like a like an internal chinese problem. I don't know how the price of real estate in china really in any regard whether it skyrockets or the bottom falls out. I don't see having a huge impact on us. And they're still gonna make our nike's mean to taiwan fucking cambodia. Vietnam they're still gonna make all that shit But yeah. I mean i to me like i'm assuming it's it's largely residential or do you know it's it's a mix of both so is everything from factories to residential apartment complexes to commercialize buildings. I mean to me that the only potential impact i can see that would cause any ripple effect here is a commercial standpoint with apple factories and shit like that and maybe but even that it would be a speed bump by. Can they'd figure something out. Pretty fucking quick. And i also think you know when it comes to billions of dollars of of products being manufactured in china for the united states. I think that's probably where you may see. The chinese government actually get involved in bail him out or or at least help with some sort of fucking solution because they're not gonna want their gdp in economy to fucking tank If it does negatively impact american production companies. But i just don't think it's going to have an impact on the same token. I think we're doing a good job on our on our own from inflation like we talked about last week To fuck up the prices of homes and and the cost of goods skyrocketing everywhere else. To where i think irrespective of what happens in china. I think we're doing god damn good job of fucking ourselves over. In that regard we got at least we got over three years still to really really fuck our country up so you don't even worry about that. We got this. Our country will be a shit hole in nota. I mean it almost does seem like it's a contest at this point who can up works. Yeah it's like oh you did this. I'm going to try this. It's like a one up game of who can fuck the country up more or worse Yeah politics and two things. I enjoyed talking about him with people who understand them politics and money but with someone who don't understand there's multiple factors and all that shit against really boring to fuck was like i've people who when i see them because they've listened to the show or whatever one of the first thing what do you think about biden. And how much money do you make. Mitch shoulda mean there has to be a certain level of understanding. And and i think that's that's honestly where a lot of shitty policies come from. I think is that you've got the masses who who as it relates to politics and in kind of geopolitical scenarios that exist in an impact the country Internationally is that a lack of education on I'm not gonna say they're fucking dumb. They're just not very well versed or or highly educated as it relates to those matters. Let me disagree with you there. Fucking i mean. Because i've met some really fucking intelligent people and i talk about this and in dogs often. You know there's a big difference between intelligence being intelligent being educated. I know some really really intelligent people that are not very well educated and i know some incredibly highly educated people that are total. Fucking morons You get the worst of both that you know. They're dumb and they're uneducated and sometimes you get people that are really smart and well educated. But anyway i i think the problem is is that it's really easy to to have you know very little understanding of something but kinda just enough to be dangerous and have an invalidated opinion. And then you know you're the one kicking and screaming the loudest and and you know having a protests and marches and waving signs not really having a true grasp of what it is that you're trying to change and it's just politically expedient to say raise wages or tax the rich or all these stupid cheese. Dick fucking tagline that a lot of people attach themselves to and they want to feel important and they wanna feel like they're making a difference in their standing behind something because they're fucking bored and that's dangerous. I think that's what causes. Most of the shitty political ideas that ended up getting past is You know you have these spineless fucking politicians that buckled to the masses uneducated fucking ideas about what they think is is just or right or needed or whatever and the fact is it's not in there in the reality is is that a lot of it is because of social media but you've got politicians who now it's not really about good policies and you know smart legislation. It's about a popularity contest and who has the most re tweets and followers on instagram. And whatever else and so. You've got these politicians now. That are focused on the wrong things. The reality of it is when you're a leader and you know this owning your own business. I know for me to even being the the head of household in charge of a military unit is is that you know your job is to not be well liked or or should i say that. That's not the driving factor like. Yeah what's important. If i mean if your entire whatever team entity family you know employees. Whatever fucking hate you. That's gonna turn into a problem but you can't start most of your policy decisions based on how many people are going to like this or not. The reality of it is when you're in a position of leadership like it's your job to to be able to and and You know concisely. Give people bad news and make unpopular fucking decisions that don't like and execute them and get them to implement things that maybe they disagree with but I think that's one of the biggest problems in this country is is is all of that kind of uneducated kicking and screaming when they don't really realize what they're even claiming to fight for a perfect example. You guys seen it last week in. Don't even realize exactly what he's talking about there at the end is we had to make a decision for our show which is a business and some aspects and we had to let someone go and make different choices. Some of you didn't like it. The majority of you are fine with it. Because you know we're gonna do and the ones that don't like it fog off. But i mean in all honesty. That's how it is with the family. I mean family business. We have to make choices two choices. Suck and hell what you were saying. I was just oh haunt ano- someone who is probably one of the brightest motherfuckers. I've ever met books wise. But if our tell them as i'm sitting in the other office and said hey you go the bathroom. It's through this door to the left. Because i didn't tell him there was another doorway. They'd have to go through. Soon as i make that i turn they say that door oil. Fuck i ain't no bathroom here even though you look into the bathroom you know and it's just some people are so fucking smart. They have no common sense. Yeah motherfuckers would get lost in fucking circle well and you know for me on the educated part like you you see people that come from really really You know meager or or humble means you know that that just didn't have the opportunity education wise or or. They had to work as as young kids you know. They barely graduated high school where they didn't even finish school or whatever but they're smart as fuck. You know those are the people that that are hustlers. That whether it's from a criminal element you know a lot of You know gangsters mobsters you know Professional criminals may not be super educated but our smartest fuck You know and that's how they're successful at breaking the law and skirting rules and whatever else but You know so you know again. I just think there's There's a ton of people out. There that are misguided and and you know it's just it's too easy to attach yourself to a hashtag or a fucking quick little one liner that that sounds good on paper or you know in theory. A lot of people are quick to get behind but it ultimately just doesn't It's not that fucking simple. Yeah i'm not. I'll admit i'm not a book reader. i'm more avenue math. Like nobody's business math in my head all that shit. I love history when it comes to proper english. I don't give a fuck but you know that when it comes to architect. Which can you understand what i'm saying if you can understand what i'm saying that i'm getting my point across. It's not going to be the best written fucking thing but you get what i'm saying I mean for for me. A lot of it comes from dog training and that communication is so fucking important that You know. I think a lot of times people undervalue just how important it is. You know But the fact is is that if you don't understand things it's it's hard to get past that you know. And that's why. I'm kind of anal retentive retentive when it comes to whether it's just making sure it's the right form of to you know in a text message or whatever is that i i like to be understood i think most people do But more importantly if you're misunderstood or you miscommunicate things. And that's where a lot of fucking problems stemming to me it. Just it's an unforced error but all my shit other stuff like spell business wrong. So many yeah. I'm the same way too. I i will say a sentence in my head multiple times that that's got an extra extra o-i-th-i in fuck y'all almost three forms of their. Yeah or live live stupid me not all languages have their weird nuances that way but is that all you got so hungry. You got other shit and if it's stupid like another motherfucking in africa did you notice. We're gonna we're gonna run half the show on zones questions from fuck worry about their. Yeah yeah just about rx about thirty five minutes. And since i've started recording 'cause see a big ass all you're keeping track. Now that's good. Congratulations baby steps. Aren't any of the lots on the cameras all blinking. Yeah there according to i wiped d. Cards h. according from scratch see. I'm i'm a montag shit today. All right okay. What your next question. My next question no is well. This is kind of just a really funny thing. That happened If you guys were watching the new york jets game. I don't know who they were playing but The fans were yelling. You know f- joe biden and you can say fuck so they're saying fuck. Joe biden unlike repetitive chant. And the and the reporter goes there. Yelling let's go brandon. That was a nascar Interview but But yeah i saw that. It's fucking hilarious like it's plain talk. Joe biden nocco. They're saying let's go brandon. I don't. I don't think that's what it is yeah. I didn't say that i was looking at hot realtor. So i'm gonna tell you normally the day of the day before the show. I really try to look into news especially with how we are getting closer to when we launched and i got lost in this hot fucking realtor chicks. I was looking at houses out. Never be able to afford a damn. I'm pretty sure. I could get a good weekend in with her wife. No orange this shit. the You know to me it's it's about is clear of an example that exists You know of media bias and just stick in there fucking head in the sand because there there can't be away that fucking woman didn't understand what the crowd is chanting. I mean it was plain his fucking day but Yeah i mean it's just a typical. I mean most of the media's overwhelmingly left leaning and they're incredibly hypocritical in terms of the things that they cover versus. What they don't the right is guilty of it as well. Just not nearly as bad because there's so few right-leaning media outlets even have the opportunity to to be biased that way that that You know that. By by comparison percentage wise it's It's negligible but But yeah it it's it's fucking it's it's funny but to me it it just sad you know it. Sad that's That's the state of affairs media wise in this country but kind of notes you got over there chief. I didn't take him a lot. I'm not gonna lie. Because i was looking at that hot realtor buick but next week is the one year anniversary of uninfluenced. Oh hell yeah. it's a on. Wednesday is our exact year. So we're gonna both sit on the on the motorcycle naked record at that. Yeah no we're not a year and it's crazy because I'm not real good with anniversaries or dates. Because i have a matter of fact the remember my wedding anniversary at that did it. All myself But it's it's cool that we have fans and friends of the show that will reach out and be like. Hey y'all realize it's almost many year school. And i mean so. It's hard to believe it'll be. This is forty four recording. Ah this is forty four forty five if you think about it. Forty five will be our anniversary show. Which will recording next monday out of a year will miss seven episodes with all the crazy shit we have in our life. I miss it and y'all seven weeks of shit is not to shabby. That's not bad. At all heller fucking welcome. But it's crazy it's been a year. I mean we met some. I would say some pretty cool people in the chat. Yeah we got brandon The hills my cut your cup over their minds put mine in storage. I got the headband. Dance cool So brandon made us these cool last eighties with the logo etched in their bad ass. Mines at home stuck it in my wife's I see so she can hold onto it. Safekeeping do the steven tyler. Fucking prison wallet figure. Women have prison purchase. Not wallet too. By the way a lot of i mean they can carry a baby up in there. I'd call it a prison suitcase. Lot bag and putting their but yeah a year. It's it's really overwhelming and some of the people we've met and talked to and and just the how the show started. We wanted to start a show based mainly on cars and our hobbies and shit we liked to do. And that's how the show came up and micro were on the way to pick up one of our cars thing. It was one of mama. Can't remember and i was like. Hey i've been asked to start a podcast. I don't really want to do it. I don't know how it was like. Fuck i'll come to a couple of with you. I'm like fuck it. If you'll do a couple just let's do them all and then it turned into this and hell. I mean we got this sign over here by someone who is the show on interest. It's fucking cool. We got a free free. Thai obsession with danny out of the deal. Yeah danny wants to get tied up and she wants us to see what we can put in her prison. Suitcase kinky fucker but Yeah i mean it's really cool and yeah we've closer to the year we. We made a change semi while some of you didn't like and sorry but go watch mouse. But for the grand scheme of things everything we do is better ourselves or better our gals viewing and listening experience at the end of the day. Ultimately this is a product. Yeah you know and And there are a lot of considerations that go into the development of a product goes through. You know changes and two point. Oh three point oh you know etc And that's just that's the way it works you know ends dislike. Were talking about earlier. You know sometimes the decisions You know maybe the consumer doesn't completely understand him maybe they do maybe they. Don't you know the other reality is is that no matter what You know we could take every recommendation that we've ever gotten and they're still going to be people that are pissed because there's some people that don't want it to change. They wanted to stay exactly the same. There's other people that want to see this change. There's some people that want that change. Some people want more of this and people want less of that You can't make everybody happy you know We do our best to to continue to put out a product and again at the end of the day. The fact that you guys are. The consumer of the product is the reason that we do this. You know we we joke can fuck around a lot You know with go fuck yourself and choke yourself and watch something else in but But ultimately you know we are are here because you guys are listening to it and and And watching it so we do appreciate it. But what's what's huddling in cool zone fucked up last week. There was no video. People still watch shit. They watched three thousand. People still watched our logo to listen to what we had to talk about. Because in that honda. Fuck this up affect this. The podcast didn't go on spotify. An item now will still go up the one. That's on youtube. We'll still go up. It'll be episode forty three. We figured out what i did wrong. We're gonna put it up But that wasn't on that one hundred percent me Still three thousand people watched our logo just to listen to us. Awesome and i mean. That's pretty cool. Put that in perspective. What three thousand people is. And we've had it as far as as high as ten. And i think we've had higher at some point but to me. It's just awesome at three thousand people wanna listen to our dumb shit long enough to look at a logo. Yeah yeah we do. We appreciation didn't bitch. So let's get into some cool shit. So there i was zones. Mom is your mom. Odds-on well i mean considering my mom i would like to say she's hot but i i. I know i'm not asking you. Are you attracted to her. But you know. I mean you can understand like yeah. My mom's fucking good-looking later or not. Yeah my dad. She's way out of my dad's league. That's i will say that dad did that but good job. Are they watching the show. No we call was my dad but not make the holidays. I doubt they do hitting good man zones confused so as him if he listened to a lot of the shows and he claimed he did i so i know i know the sister story because tyler. It be explained it to me. Yeah do have a sister so you do. I do got older. She hold on your fucking eighteen. So how'd you sister. She's younger than me. Yeah we go back to your mom she is. She's turning sixteen in december december far enough our three year anniversary. I'll remind us to talk about so on sister. Bring it back circle back over. That bitch says fucking circling back to To t- reputa- descending the video on the On the new bike yeah. That's fucking matter of fact we posted chip posted. Send it to me on for that end so right in here. We're going to put up a video of mocks new toy but we haven't videotape so this is just a sneak peek of what we got a video. It's a bad motherfucker obama fucker. I told you that day because you were leaving leaving. You're leaving an came in a a road but we figured out a setting from when you wrote it to when i wrote it and i'm like dude i don't know that's bad motherfucker right there and the setting that it was on when i first wrote it The engine power is at at basically not limited. But it's like medium so you've got this monstrous fuck engine. That's half throttled. Basically nose like that. I think is is the faster better bike and and There are still things that i do like about the really better You know you even after riding it yesterday. And i took it out for about an hour and did some seized a couple of long Longer faster pools and it's it's a phenomenal bike There there's two things that i still do like about the appropriate three things. Actually that i still do like about a better for me in my seating position. It's more comfortable. I it. It's not too hot the way this bike has just playing. It's still too hot gap Unless you're doing at least fucking sixty five seventy miles an hour. It's uncomfortably warm. Even in the thick writing jeans with buchan pads and shit in them And last but not least it to me it still does handle a little better For me because it just feels a little more planted Which is more confidence inspiring. Now i get for some people. They just like peace to oversee the the nine eleven as an example is that yeah. I kind of prefer the piece to a little more handling lies because it actually is a little more lively and playful I have way more experience driving than i do. Writing though so maybe down the road new bike would be more appealing to me in that regard that it that it is a little bit more playful For me in my experience right now it's not because it just doesn't feel as grounded you know But but not so much to where it's like holy shit night and day. You know just just enough to notice you know. It's still is very planted. Still handles really really well. Just not quite on the same levels the appropriate for for my taste. But now i think i disagree but you hit the nail on the head. the handling on the appropriate to me is even better but i. I don't think it's Aerodynamic thing like we would think. I think it's a weight thing i think because previous what is it. Sixty pounds seventy pounds. I don i i mean. I didn't think it was that much ever thought it was like maybe twenty but it could be but i mean twenty pounds on a box a lot. Yeah you know but downforce wise. I mean the difference between Say a bmw with no fucking winglets. So basically has no downforce like that that apprecia- on With the the dual stack fucking winglets at. I want to say at one hundred sixty miles an hour. It's like one hundred ten pounds of fucking downforce equivalent on the fucking handlebars which is crazy. I mean that's like fucking small woman sitting on your fucking handlebars You know i mean and you notice it like it when you're going fast That thing is just glued to the fucking road super planet whereas like the bmw up at one thirty one. Forty one fifty. It starts to drift and kind of float around a little bit which to me in a car. I don't like a bike. I fucking hate it. Because it's like on a if i run over a dead animal. Well fuck deal. Yeah you know you hit a fucking pacha gravel. Going around a slight curve. Doesn't really matter you do either one of those things on a bike or even run over a fucking two by four like and that's the end of your goddamn life you know so to to for me like especially at speeds like that. I i want as much planted feeling and as much control over that fucking bike as possible. You know and To me it's kind of like riding a horse that is taking your fucking commands more as a goddamn suggestion. It's kinda like late lazily. Doing those things just like the feedback on what. You're trying to get the the bike to do when it doesn't have the winglets in downforce at higher speeds. Is i mean every decision you make on. It is more delayed which you know on a two wheel bike. Going that fucking speed. That fucking lives in your hands. You know so now i will say everybody i get on and when i put it to my limit and a matter of fact. I did it on this bike. I took it back to your house. We talked about it but as we're talking in my adrenaline coming down. I started like man. A turtle would have been out of fucking rockwood. Have been oversight because i hit over one seventy down that back road and is a two lane fucking road not a highway. A two lane road wind e with hills and shit. I probably had no business doing the speed. I was but i've done it on almost every bike. We fucked with but every time. It never fails always rewind through my head man. If i'd done this wrong. Car woodhull del. Yeah yeah yeah so. I mean to me like i said that's why i still prefer the really just because of in that environment. It's impossible for me. Not to consider those things. And i want as much control over. That bike is i can possibly muster and and the appropriate for me Is the most controllable bike at at every speed that i've written by a noticeable margin. So improve fucking yeah bang for the buck is still the top back to me because for sure i mean. This bike is a fair fair. Bit heavier the price category. And and i still you know if i had to pick between the two of them. I'd still pick the real. Yeah i would but if you're going off at you can't test drive them and they're both sitting there. You're not making the know for sure. Not you know. I mean that other bike is probably the sexiest fucking bike. I've ever come across unbelievably good looking. And it's you know you know it's a good bike with the brand and the cost and the How available it's not you know which gives some of it away you guys will be able to figure it out as soon as you. You've already seen the video at this point. But but Yeah it's i mean it's it's a spectacular bike. It's kind of like the nine eleven in the piece to that way in that. They're both phenomenal. If i if i hadn't driven the still like the nine eleven would still be my all time favorite car you know but having having ridden or driven it does change it a little bit but it still. You're you're splitting hairs there. A little bit but yeah i was asked yesterday and we kinda talked about it in the other office. Some of the cars we have. Yes when i don't know how to put this without sound like addict if the normal person were to get in my angie or old ferrari or your old nine eleven either of our aurait basically any of card we've grown if you get in it and you only get to be in one of them. Yeah that car is gonna feel more special than any car. You've probably ever been in if you've never been in a super exotic car but we've been in so many of them now. There were when we get in them like the piece. I got went from four eighty eight. Which is the exact same car body wise minus the hood to tell well main body say cap is the same the suspensions not the same but i went from a four eighty eight matter of fact i drove my eight to your house to drive your piece i got in the piece drove the piece i sat in the piece i looked at my. I said god damn this feel special. Yeah and i don't know what it was about. It didn't start the car yet. Didn't do anything with it. And then i drove it and it's like being married. You just wanna go beat the shit out of your wife sometimes. It was like getting back in my four eighty eight. I drove home depressed and angry pieces. Shit you know and then but if you were to jump in that my four eighty eight from a chevy truck that would be the most amazing thing probably ever driven. And so i was asked. How do you know when especially when you've driven as many as we have. That's why i get bored so fast because everything. I'm driving after the peace to i'm comparing to the peace so same here you know and again i you know the It's it's a good problem to have fortunate one for sure. And it's a great maxine to me. What i love about having both is that you know i drive. I drive the turbo as day to day. You know pretty much every day. Multiple times a run errands you know do do the daily shouldn't And it's fun. It's fast it's an amazing car but it's different enough from the peace. Were now when. I still get the peace on weekends or you know going for a night drive or something like that it. It still feels just as special as it did. When that's all i had or even when i had the are eight and the and the piece of for a little while It just it. It's that remarkable of car. The downside is similarly is that it's kind of ruined everything else everything else. I've been to been in orbit around or whatever i just can't not compare it to that and And nothing fucking stacks up. You know Just so responsive and and so fun driving so engaging and so connected to the road and and the way that it looks and sounds and smells and feels name you just. It's just fucking unbelievable. How that car is i. I really can't believe. I mean as long as i've had it now. Which for us is a long time. Ju like a really long time. It's still like every time i get in it. It's even more fun than it was the first time i drove it because i i know it better now. Yeah still emma. Favorite thing is when i was we. Were pushing the fuck out of our cars to go to an event. And i look over in your hats backwards inch you're going pass. And my lifelock she said what the fuck and i said that fools engaged. Yeah but so. The am gee-gee tr. Pro was a great car. And i could drive the shit out of that car but to me. It wasn't special in no way shape or form. Was that not a good car. It just wasn't a good car for maintenance graver. It was the first car a hat. And i never drove your piece to or now. You're eleven dick. i would have been like luckett. i'm done But it just wasn't. I mean it's like fucking you get the fuck the prom queen. Yeah and then you actually go to a bigger city. Where the prom queens. You just fox ugly bitch and has no kind of in. y'all have nothing in common but Bangor no it's it's how these supercars are getting their prom queens in the way we drive them like banging them well. Yeah it's like a thirty six hour fucking bender or g You know with his likes mu. We talk about this pretty regular like i don't i don't see other Other dudes or or people that were at a lot of the meets with drive their cars really at all. Were especially the way that we do but to me. That that's what makes them fun and Yeah i mean it's that's that's for sure that the only negative of the peace to for me is is that it's set the bar to a degree with which you know it. It really makes it hard joy almost anything else one car. I say there's one car that i would say. Put up there with my top. It's not the peace to and you know the car. Everybody knows my dream cars. Eight twelve super fast. And it's not. I don't think it's going to handle. Were the fuck i just. Don't i think it's going to handle. Okay well i mean not not compared to. I wouldn't even say to the nine eleven. Probably not. But i. I think the nine nine nine to i. I really would love to see the same guy that got seven flat and the piece to drive that at the nurburgring. And i'll bet. I i would bet it'd be real close if not even faster. Yeah i really do. But i could be wrong but but the eight twelfth away. That thing sounds solid rocket. Fuel the specialness in it especially. I mean that novatech fucking exhausted that thing. It's just yeah it's served so we talk a lot about the event door being to us a piece of shit. It's not dual clutch. It's very harsh because it's not a dual clutch in there's no visibility of it so if you can take all that ball it up and you can pull out four things you wanna fix. That's what ferrari did. Yeah they said okay. We're gonna take this vidor. We're gonna make something faster we're gonna make it rear-wheel drive only and have a dual clutch and here you go. Here's the twelve super fast. And it's called the twelve a lot of people. It's got eight hundred and twelve horsepower. No don't bitch. It's got eight hundred horsepower. Twelve cylinder so it's eight hundred. I think it's in. 'em was that. The newton newton meter power of which is less than horsepower far so newton newton meters are are the torque measurement and. Yeah that's it yeah you know. I don't know it's. I don't know what they're what the calculation is of one newton meter It's less than one foot pound by a fair bit because cars with like six hundred. Forty tour is like eight hundred and ten newton meters something like that. So i mean it's it's considerably last. But that's usually the euro euro measurements as newton meters. Talk but that car sound is amazing so basically they took everything on our mentor has did a lot of people don't like they fixed it. They put it out there at a better price and you still get italian. You feel special and you get a fucking maintenance program that nothing fucking duchess. That's fucking truth. Rory's maintenance program can't be it can't be and you're paying for it but you're getting seven years of maintenance with it. Yeah and while you people are like oh for the price of the car. I said you're paying for a mclaren is three to five thousand dollars to maintenance. Now do that time seven years and at the low in your at twenty one thousand dollars at the high end your what. Fifty thirty thousand dollars. Thirty five thousand dollars. You could add to your sticker price because you have to pay for everyone i will. I ain't free. You have to pay for every one of them bitches and it's the same with lamborghini lamborghinis anywhere from three to five thousand dollars the doors even more so and even our hr fucking expensive. Oh yeah which is a hurricane. Yeah always trip out when someone says. I need more attention. Or i want more flashlights. Omar eight. I'm going get hurt on. What the fuck did you just say. it's the same. Sounds like you need to learn more about cars because just sold a cheaper huracan. And it's the same with us with the irs kuwait's they're the same as the fucking lamborghini earth exact same car that same seats vaccine infotainment centre. Actually the audi's is a little bit better on the speedometer. They're just better cars So we're a year end zone. You got anything to add on any of that matt. Do the people know where the where your car the gt are. Pros gone now. I don't care to tell them. No now that's the new owner can talk about that and then nobody's going to know what the hell i'm getting if i'm even getting anything. Fuck i may retire from this game until i can afford a piece or an eight twelve super fast. I'm i'm on. We don't know but you know we. We do know which i don't know. Yeah you can learn today bitch Yeah no. I don't really ever only a few of my cars. Have we talked about where they're going and one of them was because another youtuber. Got it and i don't really talk about it because i don't care They're good cars. And when i get him they leave as good or better than what i got it. This is actually a lot better than when i got it. I would say night and day. Different fucking car to monster good car. It just wasn't for me. I mean nothing wrong with the car just wasn't for me. Yeah we'll see. What are you got playing. You don't even need anything anymore. well that's kinda dilemmas. I it is something that i have considered Over the last week or two is do. I need both of them. You know and for that matter. May i don't need either one of them. You know for sure not about need But there is a component of it that it's like fuck you know. Should i really have both of these cars in for now chore There's nothing to say that you know a couple of months from now. I may not get rid of one and keep the other. And i don't know which one that would be yet But or if that even happened. I mean i very well may just just hang onto both. I don't know. But i do find myself kind kind of thinking that a little bit of like. What's the point of having. Both of them mean granted. I mean the way that i do. It is about as justifiable as i can make it. Yeah probably still sounds laughable but But yeah. I drive the nine eleven daily for running around doing errands or wherever the fuck. I'm going i'll. I'll take that because i don't mind parking that somewhere. We're going through a fucking drive through or you know whatever in a bank curb. Can you name it park at the target. Parking lot like. I don't think twice about it whereas the peace to I don't like parking. That fucking thing anywhere because people come up and fucking look look at it look inside it and take pictures of it and anna just a little too much attention for my For my liking. But you still talk to one. Another ghetto areas to red lobster. That but i didn't feel good about it. Now you know whereas like the nine eleven. I wouldn't think twice about park that anywhere Outta mosquito red lobster in fucking at night worrying about one bit but yeah so i. i don't know. I mean that's you know again. It's kind of a good problem to have and then it's like i'm content with what i have but that has a shelf life. You know there's gonna come a time sooner than later for sure. Where i'm gonna wanna get rid of one of them or or whatever Or we get into sad bus ads. Get a slingshot. Maybe yeah or those jetskis essentially. Va jetski six hundred horsepower. Jetski fucking crazy. We live close to a lake. Like we go to the back side of my area. And there's a drawl am. I don't know like you know i'm enjoying what i have now. So much to where. I car wise like. I'm not looking ever really. Even since i got a piece dot com. Stop looking at me. When i decided. I wanted to get the nine nine two to replace the the cayenne. That was more kind of not out of necessity. Obviously but i wasn't happy with that. And i wanted something else and now it's like why buy have that now. So yeah i just like. I haven't been looking at cars or bikes for that matter. I mean i've gotten in tried enough other motorcycles You know in you know having the bmw Are one thousand heaven The appropriate riding couple different fucking other bikes Knowing kind of what. I prefer in like i'm so happy with the appropriate of kind of stop looking at at them to you know just because i i know enough about them and i've tried enough other ones to like all. The japanese bikes pretty similar For a professional track rider like he's to be able to pick apart gs x. versus a ninja ten versus can whatever but But for me you know. They're they're kind of all the same you know i haven't ridden in our one but And i know it's gotta cross plane crank which makes it sound a little different but ride wise. I don't think it's any different. You know played same thing like it's got titanium rods. Probably spend a little faster. And i think it rubs a little higher. But i don't really like that anyway. and so to me. All the japanese bikes pretty similar german. Bike's pretty similar the italian bike's pretty similar. They're all different from each other. I'd i tend to prefer the italian bikes and cars for that matter other than than the nine eleven obviously being german but so yeah i don't know i mean it's it may get kind of boring on the show just me talking about other ship and not swapping cars out every fucking other month because i just. There's nothing else that i want. You know with the beauty of that. Is we still have plenty of shit. We haven't reviewed all the shit we've done. The beauty is manzo. Han did record a review of the g. g. t. r. Before he did so we're going to put a couple of those back in the cachet and then we'll start releasing them But it does open up our ability to talk about more things politics business. Your mom hands bombs on mom and just everyday everyday gossip like this hot ass realtor now all on bad that. I'm now stalking yeah. I think we're dating. She don't know it yet but I'm sure the cops will tell. It's getting pretty serious. Yeah so i've got a restraining order. We're pretty. I got her lawyer on them But we'll be able to talk about more shit and it's not like this is the. Hey guys were one week away from the year by now. we're just gonna be able to transition into other stuff and the beauty is with the car. Mike has will be able to do more upgrades and things like that to that style. A car you know. There's tons of work that can be done to the nine eleven already which is a really cool thing. Yeah zion shocking at the piece too. So now and and i i wouldn't blame. I mean eight twelve. Yeah i'd fuck with that. The main reason is is because there's no turbos to fuck up you got to amplify that sound other nat. That's really all other heels. But i mean that's not a lot of fucking the car really a piece with the liability. That goes into fucking that up now. Fuck if i was going to do anything. And that's a big if it'd be novatech stage to tune and exhaust which bumps it up about eighty or ninety horsepower. So they claim. But i have yet to see a single technical spec data. There's no gano anything you know from from dino two zero sixty to sixty two one thirty quarter-mile again. I haven't seen a single piece of data that says here's what it is stock. Here's what it is with the novatech tuned exhaust on it so To me there's probably a reason you know. And my bet is that it's probably negligible. Yeah not worth. That's about thirty thousand dollar upgrade to do all torn work thirty am talk now. I mean especially if you can't give me definitive date. Like take the super charger for our eight or hurricana. As an example you know same thing. It's thirty thousand dollar upgrade me really closer to forty. There's very tangible fucking on or tech data on on on that and what it adds both in dino horsepower as well as performance data you know so i mean you could spend twenty grand on your new car. Yeah well now it'd be like seventeen sixteen thousand sixteen thousand more right now on that and it adds an extra two hundred horsepower that that shows you. It's fucking worth fuck if you wanted to get to that but now like you said if you can't show me any aware other than fuck we start a company tomorrow. Hey if y'all by this stig in your obesity. Obesity we you get fifty horsepower. Yeah and issues. The blank asked can stick up in there. Yeah so Speaking of which. I need to talk to something after the show. I was brainstorming today. Yeah undo shows fuck y'all Yeah i think the. I think you've got some awesome cars but it's to argue me. I'm damn sure dam. Sure happy with them. It's it's kind of surreal honestly being able to pick between those two cars every time you know that are jumping on the bikes minute. Like every time. I go out in the garage a fucking slap myself and remind myself the i can actually jump into one of these. It sits fucking weird honestly. But but i'm not bitching amount for sure so i have a question for you mike. So i know that Well matt has his bmw x. Five competition where he needed. Get something something bigger onto that. Like lumber had a project to do at home. he's able to with that real estate or that space in the back of his car. How much can you fit in the back of that porsche. That's your kind of daily car so to caveat. That's my daily driver for for just me. I also have an rs. Q eight and i also have an f. One fifty fucking pickup truck with a camper. Shell on the back. So if i need to move furniture and shit like that. I i still can't. Do you know if i delivered dogs or do like carjacking scenarios with the dogs or anything where i'm moving shit around picking up bags of assault for water soft or whatever then i'll take either the rescue eight or or the The f. one fifty but like really the only time i take those are for road trips or ahrends where it specifically needs that car if i if i don't need that extra space i'll always take the nine eleven and occasionally the piece just for the for the fuck of it Depending on whether or or what. I'm doing or or what have you if i'm running a quick errand right. It's got to go you know. Drop something off like paperwork wise or whatever then i may take the piece to just for fun but so It's not like those. Are the only two cars or motorcycle. I have i can. I can take big shit too just like your mom. What is it bad that. I got excited when i heard four carjacking and then i got sad when you said scenarios i want fuck. Yeah just shows where. I came from running carjack scenarios with dogs and vehicles You don't get an appreciation for how hard it is on a vehicle until you do it once and it will trash inside your house and car deal nails bitch for that time. He didn't break a window you know he didn't show you that video continue to do so. Yeah break that window. I want this shit to be real. I can shoot. Shoot at me do it. Yeah yeah and well that same scenario. I use my truck. When i need move something big to yeah so Like johanns mom. Yeah the answer your question though. I mean it is for what it is like. I said in the lead up to announcing it. It is ridiculously practical. For what you get performance. Wise and being in that like supercar segment In my old the nine one dot two. That i had which inside is is as far as i know the exact same dimensions or it's close enough to not not notice any difference Matt with with two other people round. They were smaller slider built females In the in the backseats you know went to a sushi joint. That was forty five fifty minutes away. you know one night and it's still got all of that room in the front trunk as well so i mean you can put four fucking adults in there. I mean could you fit guys. He and is in the back. Probably not you could put one back there You know in have feet on one side and and sit on the other So you could have three fucking dudes. Our size fit in that car. No problem And and the front trunk again is very fucking room. I mean like. I've gone shopping Like i went to rei couple of times with over the last few weeks. And you know you can fit like four or five big fucking department store bags in that. It's the size of a small trunk so You know. I i put coolers with fucking drinks when we go out senate that in the piece to too but So i mean like i said the nine eleven is is by far the most practical everyday supercar by far By far for what you get performance wise and how it looks and and what it brings to the table on the street I mean it's it's far more practical than anything else. But it's still it's of course not as practical as an x five m or or rescue ater a trucker or whatever. Yeah i'm gonna disagree yet. There's there's a lot of good cars out there. But i think through the trial and error especially over the last. We've been hanging out over a year now right. We've had a lot of fucking cars over this past year year and a half. We win a lot of fucking car so we did a lot of trial and error for you people. Yeah you're welcome again. People you people all the other thing too in the nine eleven Porsche actually makes a fucking car seat For for babies it's got the latch system in both both rear seat. So you could put a car seat and and people do So they sell it though. I mean and it's not expensive. It's the one thing from porsche. That's just any more expensive than any other. Yeah that go to. Babies r us or somewhere and three ninety five or something. I thought it was like one. Seventy but i mean it's yeah it's not the toddler one is so the infant one is that which is normal for cars against the infants are more expensive support the head and then the toddlers cheaper. Yeah yeah i seen that. And i was like holy shit. Yes pretty neat. Yeah i mean they they when you say. They thought of everything when they built that car they really started hanging of everything. Yeah like if it's just two of you like m- you can put backpacks and suitcases and luggage and shit on those backseats on on the floor i mean you you could fit probably five or six backpacks you know. Carry on size bags in the back. Noble shit you could put one in the foot space on each side could put you know two or three in the in the actual seat part maybe even one in the middle and then you could probably put another three or four in the in the front trunk so i mean there is a lot of room Again for for what it is. I don't know how the fuck they've managed to squeeze that much room out of it. But i guess it's because of the. It's technically a rear engine car because the engine is behind the other rear axle whereas the eastern and most of the sports cars that are considered mid mid engine. Even though it's behind you it seems like it should be rear. It's technically forward of the rear axle by an inch and a half. It's called the mid engined car but but those cars have half the amount of room you know like like if you look at my piece to compared to the to the nine eleven like the behind the the driver seat amount of room and the piece you could put your wallet back there It's basically a fucking wall. I mean there's like three inches. A little ledge three inches in like some cargo net space. If you wanted to put like a small purse or something like that but Yeah now dan marmaris. There's no no no no room no fucking concert. You're going on a rally. Which one are you taking up the fuck nine. Eleven hands down. F one fifty on everybody in the f. One fifty but if it was a long one yeah i mean if it was a day or two like one overnight probably the piece but now because during the gold rush or something for sure the nine devlin would check. The roads is that matters a lot That live in. Like i said the time i drove it. Well i drove it twice once. I didn't get on it and the next time trick. Fuck man you had it tuned. And i drove it. That's a that's a bad motherfucker. Yeah but no doubt about yeah. Sorry i got a weird ask text about. Somebody wanted to see me naked. None weird about that. No and there's an oscar so that's it for today pretty much. Got anything else just again like you know. I know we. We joke around a lot. We do really appreciate all your guys support in tuning in and that does mean a lot to us. I know you know there's always people let's say you guys suck at this or you should do this better or more of those less of that me. Even that stuff you know still appreciate your fucking feedback and opinion and the fact that you watch the show in give shit enough to have an opinion on it so You know we. We do like to joke with you guys and tell you to fuck off and whatever but But no bullshit we do. Do really appreciate the support and you guys tuning in so and on bo shows i would say this one hand mic drop. We really do look at a almost every comment and the ones that critique the show as far as hey the lighting sucked or hey the audio once we start seeing shit like that and we start noticing it. We pay attention. They'll just keep that shit in mind And they're the ones where i have noticed is a lot of emails. I get her instagram. Replies i guess me calling y'all fuck sticks you really enjoy. I wonder if we make a shirt says uninfluenced. Fuck sticks or something fucking Coffee cups or something for you. Put putting the comments. Those y'all that have been this far to the end if you'd want something like that coffee cups or shirts or something that says merch ideas. Yeah because we could do like uninfluenced in the front or small uninfluenced and in the back. We could just do that. Stick figure dukes fucking stick. Yeah yeah but it'd be a nice cartoon. Stick something like that Someone's over there tom. A copy copyright that real quick but yeah let us know other than that the last episode you will be able to find on spotify and pandora all that shit apple i tunes. We still can do that right. Isolate the audio and move it okay. So we're going to do that launch. And then we'll launch this one. They'll that's my zone just fucked up the whole video other than that everything else. 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Jack Whitehall: A Joke about Performing for the Royal Family

Netflix is A Daily Joke

02:48 min | 3 months ago

Jack Whitehall: A Joke about Performing for the Royal Family

"Prestigious than this novice. I'm going to be frank with you. I have a history of coking prestigious gigs. The most. I've ever bummed on stage with when i was booked to do prince charles's christmas party. It was exactly as weird as it sounds. The first thing that was weighed about this gig is that i walked out. Charles and camilla was sat in the front row in high backed chairs. I was thinking you are aware this is real life. Not game of thrones also. Do sit in the front row. The front row is a comedian. Is the 'get-out-of-jail-free card. If the jokes aren't working you talk to the front row. You ask them what they do for a living icon. Ask prince charles. What he does for a living. He's the most famous unemployed man on the planet. You do for a living just sort of sit around. Wait for my parents to die me too. So i can't do the what's your job. Crowd work because my front row is a couple of benefits. I'm glad you laughed at that joke. I'm not gonna lie on the night that one did not go down well. Meghan was the only one offing which depending made it was the other thing about. This is that they didn't give me a microphone. Which is literally. The only thing that i need is a comedian because this is the only thing that gives me status over you without this. I am just the with this. Hi i'm here to talk to you about politics without it so no microphone right there in the front row. Forty five minutes. I had to do forty five minutes of dancing around in front of the royal family. Like i was the caught fucking gesta my final indignity off to the gig now as a comedian. You know when you have hot show you do not need to be told it you especially do not need to be bounded by the future. King of england was introduced to prince charles. Do you know what the fuss thing was that he said to me. I think next year. We'll try magician. It's fine it's fine. I hooked him up with my friends at magic mike. Commit a bloody loved. Watch jack whitehall. I'm only joking only on netflix.

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PLAYCATION BONUS! Unpacking Las Vegas

The Big Ones

14:02 min | 3 months ago

PLAYCATION BONUS! Unpacking Las Vegas

"The original hi. Everyone and welcome to lay be unpacking. Well guys it's been another rousing week on twitter. Thanks to all and we wanna read some of your messages and we also want to discuss. Who won the pole four. Where do we go vegas. Maybe it was a tight race. It was the tightest race Let's see here everyone. I've got it here that i did. I did it did it did it. Maria wine with fifty two point one percent and amanda got forty seven point nine percent while seventy three votes. So i believe that's one one or two votes that's crazy. That's why that's why you gotta vote. You gotta vote. Now vote counts. It's so true and you know. I was really shocked that a lot of people who said they voted for me. Said they voted for me because of my zion day trip so i think i kind of got the crowd. That doesn't like vegas. Because they were like god while we get to go hike. The narrows exactly. Yeah it. was you know it was crazy because a man. I did plan the exact same vacation except for like one thing and that was for me that was going to a couple bars one night and then for a that was going to hike the narrows But so we knew it was going to be tight. So i you know at the end of the day. This was more or less a draw because one or two votes. But you know. I will. So i will say that that i am happy to share that win with you. Well that's that's generous. But there's there's no need you can you can. You're elvis can take your elvis story I think really really groped a lot of people and yeah more girly that now. This used to be harry albert. They changed the name to more gory. That's the at -plication underscores stances loved every second of amanda fund buns mix of high low kitsch and class. It stole the show for me this time. In spite of meritas elvis with a secret my only previous my only previous experience with vegas is being twenty two years old and basically being blacked out circus circus for three days straight. These placations made me want to give vegas a second chance as a half classy grownup. Now i have to say my sister. Sarah after listening to the episode and sarah helps us of our social media stuff. She gave me a few fact corrections because she just wanted me to remember that yes we have. We did use to say at treasure island. We just while. She says she remembers because we ate at their version of benihana But what. I was thinking of was. We never got to stay at excalibur. And that's what the underwater amusement park or whatever it is you said they had yes and then also point to she made was divas. Live was the drag show okay wishing that does not exist anymore. And the show. That i saw the last time i was there with the lines was called legends which is an impersonation show. And that's when. I saw elvis and he gave me his sweaty scarf. Oh okay yeah okay. So those were the little fat corrections. I got from sarah. Thank you maggie. Berg at magara doodle says having lived in vegas for twelve years. I was excited to see how with how a tourist enjoys it. I picked marie is for the nostalgia of vegas dive. Bars like dino's and frankie's. I have enjoyed the narrows at zion a few times to next time. Make sure to check out the arts district. Now i've gone to the arts district. I think is that in debts downtown right like kind of off i or i'm not sure but i'll check it out next time. I go sure sarah underscore with underscore no underscore h. Sarah cinna vich. Says i love zion. So i went with amanda. Fyi i tour is needed to hike. The narrows my family. And i did it a few years ago. And it's an easy hike and absolutely beautiful at peaky says maria won me with the tiki bar. Because it was my first ever bar. I went to. Wow now we did get cirque du soleil tweeting us back because i tweeted searches. Delay saying you know we love. We love your show and they wrote back. Favourite live show of all time is such a compliment. We love your love for beatles love heart that is so feels good to be seen. Doesn't it if feels really good. To be seen no word yet from the venetian or the bellagio. Though and now. I have to say after we recorded. I went back and revisited. Some of my old videos from magic. Mike live and i think if i read you my -plication i'd make us go see magic. Mike live even though i was on a honeymoon to not really appropriate I just love that show so much and it's so fun and funny and you know i. It seems like someone voted against you for thinking. You did go to magic mike live. I can't remember who said it. But they said they didn't want to go because of the audience on yours because the audience participation and i. I did have to point out. Will you know you didn't actually go. You just gave it an honorable mention. That's true and i will say love might have one audience participant if i remember correctly but i don't really even know if they do but that's a one in a million shot. You know you do that. You might as well won the lottery with magic like live. Everyone's getting touched. Every single person is getting a touch. Yeah i've got an email here. Okay this is farmer. Jenny the vegas episode of -plication is the best one yet. I had a smile on my face. The whole time in laughed out loud when amanda jumped into the role of danika in talk to maria out of ordering chicken tenders at lunch Why she wasn't danika. That was that was just a panda in talking about lunch and dog maria out of ordering chicken tenders at lunch because she couldn't decide what to get. I knew you would be fun to dine with this. Was like the patriot episodes of the big ones but turned up to eleven. I don't do twitter. Because i just can't stand it but i would have voted for amandus trip. There's that vote you guys. There's vote that would have brought a manned up a tie. I marie as pool day sounded really nice. But the misogynistic elvis kind of creep me out. Now hold on a minute. We'll misogynistic about l. fall. He on your sweetie and little lady and it was a little condescending. That's how elvis talk. Hey pretty mama. Yeah i deny your take your misogynistic. Take on my elvis. Also i love the idea of a mandate trip and fyi. I have it on good authority. That utah hinz. Pronounce ions zion. Okay i-it's right. Yeah so we can add that to the list of places that aren't pronounced the way. They're spelled with oregon in toronto. Wait how do you say oregon. While i guess it would oregon tore toronto toronto. Horo too. I would totally love for you guys to take a trip to the twin cities. Minneapolis and saint paul minnesota for day. Trip you can also head an hour ish into the country and visit my farm and meet your namesake chickens. Oh this is our listener. Who's got the chickens. Oh this you've seen on my instagram miss jenny. Homestead the sixty so happy. It's really great. That jenny got two chickens and name. Them marina amanda. It's a lot of fun to watch them. Take wreak havoc on the farm. I'm sure the pigs turkeys and guineas and quayle would also be honored to meet you. We would of course cook you a farm-to-table meal with veg grown in our garden. You are seriously invited. If you ever want to visit farmer jennie o. Far jenny that's awesome. And i've already there. Yeah that sounds great now. We also have some reviews that people wrote in. And i know we had said that we would read some reviews if we got them so i want to do that. Don't want summer to end. This comes from halls of heart thoroughly. Enjoy the big ones. Maria and amanda. Ag together is always a treat. But i'm particularly loving this vacation series. I have a long queue of podcast episodes to listen to. And there's are only a few pods skip the queue and go straight to the top. When a new episode comes and to be honest play is one of them. It's a genuine good time exploring these vacation. Destinations with the intriguing characters. They come up with looking forward to maria battling it out against the web crawlers ladies. I'm dreading the end of this summer series. Well that's nice okay. So here's one to application theme song broke my heart love you ladies and everything that you do but i refuse to believe that this is not maria singing the -plication theme song it gave me so much joy to think goes her singing her little heart out much love to the actual singer though. But i still think it's maria it is not me. It is shannon lock checker out. Beautiful voice not me maria digital devil though some maybe one day that will get leaked. Yeah there another one. I think there's another well here's one love me supplication. The premise of the show. So fun loved the wheel. Spins determining your vacate equally appreciate character-driven episodes in the ones that are less focused on that i've learned a lot by listening like how career driven chefs. Who ignore their kids can change if they meet the right nanny and you can get away with murdering someone if your name is something like sandal and your victim is known to throw a few back at the bar from time to time. Ps i typed three different possible titles for this review knowing there is a possibility it will be read on the show and i was self conscious and the title. They chose love me someplace occasion. Perfect title perfect title. There's a couple of good reviews. So thank you everyone who's done. Who's taking the time to do that. Yeah thank you so much now. Amanda we we i. We haven't been asking each other this but at the beginning of doing these many episodes we were asking each other. Would you go on the -plication that you just went to or would you go to the spot and so would you like is vegas after doing this vegas episode is vegas back at the top of your list like i wanna go back to vegas. No it isn't. You're not like issue to go to vegas. I'm not ready for vegas because a panda. I not ready yet. Because of the pandemic. I think i'm i would be nervous to how i would respond to crowds at this point even being in a show like a vegas show sitting like i. I haven't been to a movie yet and it's the most i can do to get myself to go to the farmer's right. No i hear you and so. I don't think i'm quite ready for vegas. And i hope that changes because i do love it but the idea of like going to a bar. I've done restaurants. It's been great. But i don't know if i'm even ready for a bar. Yeah is going to be hard yet. It is going to be hard. You're right it that does give me. Do you think you could do. I couldn't do it. But but as i was planning the vacation. I very much like this. I really really go. But but yeah it just. Isn't the right time at the moment. I guess yeah i mean i just wonder like part of me is worried like i've changed forever and i'm never going to be able to handle crowds. I don't think so. I think we you know as easily as we came into these versions of ourselves of like being afraid of people. And as i said before people places and things will be able to get out of that as easily once we start doing things once the world gets back in order and you start doing things. I think it will take a couple of weeks but you'll get there okay. Yeah i mean. We'll see but as of now i'm definitely drawn to the more remote -plication destinations where it's more nature base. Galapagos has haido side is a big thing you know. yeah so. I think that's just where my comfort zone is right now. Yeah yeah it's depressing. But it's true but vegas does sound fun when you know when things get back to normal if they do vegas seems like it'll be a ton of fun man and i want a girl's trip. Yeah more stay in home. More girly is patagonia sweater. Maria speeding a little bit. She tired the vegas trip took it out of her. Well thanks so much for listening to play case khaki aereos.

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