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Biden to Hit Putin With New Russia Sanctions After Summit Offer
"Jennifer jacobs at bloomberg news. I report tonight that the biden administration is getting ready to sanction russia tomorrow Russian individuals and entities in response to russia's efforts to disrupt the twenty twenty election. The us intelligence community concluded that russia made yet another concerted effort and twenty twenty to attack and undermine our election to try to benefit the donald trump campaign. The sanctions are reportedly in response to that also reportedly in response to these solar winds. Hack that hit nine federal agencies one hundred big private companies last year. According to bloomberg news the plan is for the government to sanction about a dozen russian individuals including government officials and intelligence officials plus twenty russian entities of some kind plus the reporting that the us government could expel as many as ten russian officials and diplomats from the united states. Tomorrow
Surging Virus Has Michigan's Whitmer at Loggerheads With Biden
"About two. Dozen hospitals in the great state of michigan are at ninety percent capacity or above as that state steel. That state deals with a huge surge in cova crisis at least one michigan hospital the mclaren port huron hospitals at one hundred percent capacity as of this morning chief medical officer. They're saying that when his hospital tried to transfer out some of its patients with the most acute needs. They couldn't do it They faced long delays trying to move patients out because so many hospitals are so crowded. There's nowhere to move them. To as michigan cova cases and hospitalizations continue to rise inexorably without any relief at all. The michigan health and hospital association said today they expect the number of hospitalizations in the state to beat last fall's peak to head up higher than they have ever been before during the crisis at all. This is the daily new reported coronavirus cases in michigan. Right now there are dozens of states that are having covid case numbers spike across the country but michigan is by far the worst. Still though even in light of that today. The white house confirmed again that they're not planning to send an extra allocation of vaccines to to michigan. That is what governor gretchen. Whitmer is asking for to try to get michigan's crisis under control. The white house says they will send other resources to michigan to try to help but not additional vaccine supplies when you have an acute situation Extraordinary number of cases like we have in michigan. The answer is not necessarily to give vaccine in fact. We know that the vaccine will have a delayed response. The answer to that is to really close things down to go back to basics to go back to where we were last spring Last summer to down to flatten occurred to decrease contact with one another to chaffetz to the extent that we have available to to contact tracers. Sometimes can't even do it at the capacity that you
NASA helicopter set for historic first flight on Mars
"Sunday night. nasa is going to try to launch a teeny tiny helicopter named ingenuity for the first powered flight on another planet. The wright brothers were the first flight on earth ingenuity will try to be the first powered flight on some other planets ingenuity is almost ready to go. It's been getting. its batteries. Solar charged yesterday gave. Its rotors a little test spindle. If it works as designed it will initially be just a short hop about ten feet up for about thirty seconds. But of course a giant leap for humankind sunday night. We all be watching space.
Gaetz sought blanket pardon from Trump White House
"Something in return gates privately. Asked the white house for blanket preemptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes they may have committed according to two people told of the discussions the times reports tonight that it's unclear whether congressman gates or the white house new at the time that he was under federal criminal investigation for child sex trafficking when he asked for this pardon but the times does note that if he was aware of that at the time he did not tell the white house about it when he made the pardon request now congressman gates. Didn't get any such pardon from president trump. At least one that we know of the times is reporting tonight at the white house. Thought that that kind of preemptive blanket pardon in the absence of any charges is something that might set a bad precedent. Not that that's the sort of thing they usually cared about. And other scandals during the trump administration but the times reports that quote in recent days some some trump associates have speculated that mr gates is request for a group pardon for him and other members of congress was an attempt to camouflage his own potential criminal exposure the theory being that he knew he was essentially in federal criminal danger so we asked for a pardon for himself and lots of other guys just in case
President Biden visits CDC in Atlanta
"The president vice president made in atlanta today was to the headquarters of the cdc where they announced that they have met their goal of administering one hundred million vaccine shots more than forty days ahead of schedule which is an amazing milestone. If you are a parent in this country you might actually be more excited by the news that the broke itself later today this morning. The cdc updated its guidance on physical distancing in schools going from requiring six feet between each student to three feet meaning a lot. More kids will be able to head back to the classroom
8 People Shot and Killed at 3 Atlanta-Area Spas
"Eight people have been shot and killed in the atlanta metro area in georgia tonight and these shootings took place at three different locations. Three different massage parlours police say a shooter killed four people at the first location massage parlor in cherokee county massage parlor called young's asian massage is about forty five minutes north of atlanta. Then about an hour later. There were shootings at two more day. Spas massage parlors this time in atlanta itself. These two spots were across the street from one. Another four more people were shot and killed those two additional spas again eight people dead. Police have not identified a motive but it is impossible to overlook that majority of the employees at these local businesses. Were of asian descent. This comes at a time in our country when hate crimes against asian-americans have radically increased. And again we do not know if that's what this is but that context is hard to ignore as we are continuing to learn more about this spree of crimes.
Cuomo refuses to resign despite calls from top New York Democrats
"York's democratic governor. Andrew cuomo is in water that appears to be getting deeper and hotter all the time after the publication of along investigative piece by rebecca traced her a new york magazine today. Basically a long form review of the work culture in cuomo's office and his administration and reporting on a litany of women who have worked for him who say he has behaved inappropriately toward them in the workplace tonight both. Us senators from new york. Democratic senate leader chuck schumer and democratic. Senator kirsten gillibrand kirsten gillibrand. Both have called for governor cuomo to resign from the governorship senator schumer gillibrand join a majority of the overall congressional delegation from new york in now calling for cuomo to step down. This is the front page huffington post tonight quote. It's over schumer and jill brand coal for cuomo's head now the photo. There is one of an odd series of reuters photographs. Taken today at the governor's mansion apparently from quite a distance in these photos. The governor is seen walking around talking on a cell phone while wearing a blanket. Also his it should be noted. He's in the company of a really quite amazing looking. Good dog but why. The governor's wearing a blanket. Nobody knows the news of senator. Schumer and senator gillibrand joining the pile on now demanding. Cuomo's resignation is front page news all over the country tonight so far cuomo himself is showing no signs of heating these demands for his resignation if he refuses to resign ultimately the only way he can be removed from office against his will before the next election of course is by impeachment as we reported here last night. Democrats in the state legislature in new york have announced the opening of an impeachment inquiry targeting cuomo acid yesterday. If they do impeach him in the assembly he will then go on trial in the new york senate where a majority of new york senators have already called on him to resign thus making it seem more than just likely that he would be convicted in the senate and removed from office if the assembly goes ahead and impeach him but again that process has just starting and again. Lots of calls tonight. That this news. About senator. Schumer and senator gillibrand means. It is over for governor. Cuomo seems disagree. We will let you know if the story develops further over the course of the night. It's a fair bet that it will. We will let you know
U.S. Starts Easing Restrictions in Nursing Homes
"Nursing homes. Of course we're the first entities targeted intensively for vaccines nursing homes and other congregate care facilities for the elderly that has produced such a shockingly dramatic reduction in new cases and in covid risk overall in those facilities that today the cdc and the part of the federal government that oversees nursing homes they issued new recommendations today advising nursing homes to start easing the restrictions on visitors for the first time since the pandemic started in that may not sound like a huge change in american life but those visitor bands have made nursing home life so scary and so unbearable for our seniors throughout this terrifying last year in those places that that finally now easing up is a huge human step forward. And there's this and there's a lot of detail to the new guidance. The new guidance isn't directed members of the public. It's directed at nursing homes in terms of how to shape new policies. That are that can still keep their residents safe while also taking account of the progress that we've made in making those facilities safe and in the desperate need for people to have human contact with their loved ones. There's there's a lot of new wants. And i am not going to go into them in detail. But if you're looking for a take home message as a member of the public based on these new guidelines if your mom or your grandpa or your great aunt or your elderly friend is in a nursing home. make sure that they have been able to get vaccinated which means a fully vaccinated which means one or two doses depending on which vaccine they can get and then two weeks after the last shot that's fully vaccinated make sure they are fully vaccinated and then make sure your family vaccinated and then if nursing homes in fact changed their rules hs to account for this new advice from the federal agency that oversees nursing homes if your family member or loved one is fully vaccinated and you are too soon. You should be able to get in there and go see them if we can get this together. Now you'll be able to go visit. Bring presents be prepared to give hugs the toll on our american seniors has been so horrific. I mean we're the worst country in the world. We've had more deaths than any other country in the world. We had the worst epidemic of any country on earth and the people who have paid the most for our seniors. Nearly one percent of all american grandparents have died from cove it. In the past year almost unimaginable. We talk about there being more than a half a million deaths in this country. Well more than a third of our deaths. In this country were in congregate care facilities just an unimaginable unceasing tide of death and then we worked on it and we made that better with vaccines because vaccines work.
Mass COVID-19 vaccination event gets underway in New Hampshire
"Weekend. The great state of new hampshire got eleven thousand doses of the one shot one dose johnson and johnson vaccine for covid and they decided to use it all instantly in one big mass vaccination blast and they targeted an interesting group of people. Everybody eligible for the vaccine in new hampshire. Who had already signed up to get a vaccine but had been put at the end of the line had been told that they couldn't get their shot until april or may the state cold all those people in the state. Everybody who had laid appointments and said we know you're interested in getting a vaccine how this weekend instead and in one weekend they did a drive through mass vaccination clinic for more than eleven thousand people. And they did it at the new hampshire motor speedway the nascar
Senate holds longest vote in history
"End the senate they have been trying to pass the covid relief bill earlier in the day you might have seen headlines about the fact that the senate took a vote on senator bernie. Sanders is proposal to raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. Now that failed all republicans voted against it and incredibly democrats voted against it as well news in its own right but after that they started arguing in the senate amongst themselves. They all started arguing with joe mansion about unemployment benefits and the covert relief. Bill and they argued over that for nine hours ultimately landed somewhere which is very very close to where they started but they had nine hours of fighting about it turns out in that time they never technically gal shut the vote on bernie sanders is minimum wage thing which means accidentally we just had the official longest vote in senate history by mistake for nine hours for no reason. Congratulations as for the pint. Final passage of this bill. We'd been expecting it sometime this weekend with this pointless nine hour delay. It's unclear when we're going to see this thing getting past but watch this space.
Fulton DA’s investigation into Trump heads to grand jury in Atlanta
"Atlanta journal constitution is breaking the news that in the other known criminal investigation into the former president the one in fulton county georgia as to whether or not president trump illegally tried to pressure elections officials into changing that state's election results That case reportedly is being brought in front of a grand jury this week in atlanta the atlanta journal constitution reporting. Tonight that fulton county prosecutors are going to go before the grand jury in georgia this week and ask them first subpoenas for witnesses and documents in that case that reportedly targets the former president
President Biden tours FEMA vaccine center at Houston's NRG Park
"Today. President biden and first lady. Dr jill biden visited a new fema vaccination senator at our center at energy park in texas to tour the facility which opened just a few days and to address america's vaccination effort the opening of that new vaccination site where biden spoke is a feet despite that massive winter storm that shook texas and ended the power grid. The new site is up and running and capable of giving thousands of vaccine doses a day. It's a drive through center. Take a look at that. It's amazing made it hopes of targeting the most vulnerable communities in the area one of the goals of the new facilities to increase vaccine equity in the state
Biden orders airstrikes in Syria, retaliating against Iranian-backed militias
"For the first time since he was inaugurated president. Joe biden tonight has ordered. Us military strike the pentagon says. The president ordered airstrikes in syria around six. Pm eastern time this evening. This is the statement that we got announcing the start from pentagon. Press secretary. John kirby he said quote at president biden's direction. Us military forces earlier this evening conducted air strikes against infrastructure utilized by iranian-backed militant groups in eastern syria. These strikes were authorized in response to recent attacks against american and coalition personnel in iraq and to ongoing threats to those personnel specifically. The strikes destroyed multiple facilities located at a border control. Point used by a number of iranian-backed militant groups this proportionate response was conducted together with diplomatic measures including consultation with coalition partners. More on that in a moment The operation sends an unambiguous message. Statement continues president biden will act to protect american coalition personnel quote. At the same time we have acted any deliberate manner that aims to de-escalate the overall situation in both eastern syria and iraq. like that statement tonight from pentagon. Press secretary john kirby announcing these us airstrikes eastern syria now in terms of what these air strikes were in response to this month in iraq. There have been three rocket attacks publicly reported in the space of a week the most recent one targeted the us embassy in baghdad. That was three days ago to rockets fired in that attack fell inside the green zone that heavily fortified area around the baghdad embassy there were no injuries From those two rockets on saturday it was four rockets that had hidden air base north of baghdad. That injured one person but last monday it was a more. A more consequential attacked. It was a dozen rockets last monday. That struck the usually peaceful northern iraqi city of bill that killed that attack killed one american civilian contractor and wounded nine other people including several americans at the air bill airport now it has been widely assumed that it was iranian backed militias that were behind these rocket attacks. Iran has denied any direct responsibility but the attacks have been seen in in many quarters as a way of sort of testing. The waters with the new administration should also be noted. That president biden took office just days after the one year anniversary of the us killing. Iran's top revolutionary guard general and a missile strike. Something iran has promised to take retaliation for the other context. That's important here. Of course that the biden administration just a week ago announced that they're ready to hold talks with iran on possibly reentering the nuclear deal that was designed to keep iran from becoming a nuclear power. That was the deal that president obama entered into with iran. That president trump pulled out of as we've been reporting the story trying to understand the scale of these airstrikes night. We have just gotten some tape from the brand new defense secretary. lloyd austin. He spoke with reporters on a flight back to washington. He had been visiting. Us military facilities on the west coast. This was on board the plane back on route to the. Us's coast a target that we would after we know what we get and and we're confident that that target was being used the same shia militia that That conducted the strikes. You're very deliberate about our approach as you would expect this to be You're allowed to it. Occurs the iraqis to investigate develop intelligence and very helpful to us and refining target. You i was season was my recommendation We said a number of times. We will respond At you know on our time line and once again we wanted to be sure that the connectivity and wanted to be sure that can't the right dr sites it was today. Yes issue one defense secretary. Lloyd austin that's tonight we just got in that tape moments ago. Speaking about the first military operation of the biden administration. these airstrikes on iranian backed militias in syria. The administration says they are response to rocket attacks that targeted u s and coalition forces in iraq. You just heard Defense secretary austin there say that it was president who authorized these strikes And he did so this morning per the defense secretary's read out to reporters tonight joining us now. For more is nbc's chief foreign correspondent. Richard engel richard. I didn't expect to have you back on the show so soon after talking with you last night on a totally different matter Joining us on short notice tonight to help us help us through this. Not not a problem. And i was speaking short while ago with a senior. Us official with direct knowledge of this This was a a message to iran and iranian backed militias. According to this official. And the message was that the united states will no longer tolerate harassment will no longer tolerate attacks rocket attacks missiles attacks and particular the attack on your bill of earlier this month was seen as something of a watershed moment so this was a a message. That times have changed that. Even though the president biden wants to negotiate with iran this administration does not want to be bullied does not want to be pushed around is not going to accept the Increased military action that put us personnel and allies at risk. So this was. This was a strong message. It was described to me as the The carrot the stick in the carrot and stick of diplomacy and deterrence that the. Us is offering the carrot. They wanna get back to talks but they also are using the stick for the for the first time today and sending this message. The target that was hit was described as a series of buildings that were used to supply and support these different militia groups. A kind of a border crossing area on the border between syria and iraq. the militias. That operate in this in this area do often cross the border. The fact that the strike took place in syria is also significant. It take some of the pressure off of the government of baghdad. So this was a a very carefully chosen target. It was a calibrated response. Trying to hit specifically the militia that had been targeting the us forces and allied forces and also to send a clear message to iran. That times have changed now. The official said this is also a message to iran and the militias. That things are different than they were. Under the trump administration under president trump and by way. We almost went to war with iran in a very similar circumstance. That that we're in right now. About a year
Biden Will Need to Rebuild International Leaders' Trust After Trump's Wrecking Ball Approach to Foreign Policy
"I think one can't overstate what has happened. In the last couple of weeks with respect to joe biden engaging on the world stage but in particular ways it's not. It's not pink cloud to pink cloud with everybody in fact. He had a tough conversation with israel's prime minister. Benjamin netanyahu and the lack of conversation with the saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman sort of sending a message to both of them to that america will have a clearer role even in the middle east. Do you think about it. You're you're trumps favorite leaders. In hamad bin. Salman was perhaps at the top of that list. The first trip down trump took as president overseas. He broke precedent. Instead of going to one of our neighbors he went to saudi arabia. And of course the leader that donald trump would never criticize was vladimir putin asking what you see is joe biden very deliberately picking venues this munich security conference where he gave that speech today. Virtually that's the venue in the heart of europe. Signalling you are friends. You are allies. Not these other guys. the agenda is different. He's talking about democracy sending up for russia. Climate change diplomacy to get back into the iran nuclear agreement so both the tone the settings and the substance is entirely different than what we've seen the last four years so ben what. This is the moment to determine whether some of those alliances have been damaged obviously g. seven is a is a key alliance. Nato is one that was undermined by by donald trump. Is everybody happy to take america back again. Are they okay to say. Let's just forget about the last four years where it's back to business. Well yes no on the one hand it just shows you how extreme the trump policy is or was that joe biden's had to go out of his way to reaffirm we are a member of nato. We honor our commitments to nato. Were back in the paris agreement. From which the us lead in negotiating. We're prepared to have diplomacy to go back into the iran agreement that we took the lead in negotiating a so. This is a sea change. I think the rest of the world particularly allies have thought on the one hand. We very much want america back back at the table back. Defending a set of values back working to solve problems like climate change or dealing with pandemics where trump had been totally absent on the other hand. They just lived the glass for years. And they're looking over don't biden shoulder and thinking who are those crazy people behind you who stormed the capital january six. Can we trust that. The americans won't do that again in four years. Can we trust though. Keep their word. If we want to negotiate a complex agreement like the paris agreement was or the iran nuclear deal. Can we trust. The americans won't just tear it up so his cask is is much harder than just making a speech in setting the right tone. He's going to have to build back. Bill ity month-by-month year-by-year initiative by initiative. Because of the wrecking ball coach. Down trump took to our alliances in our room the world.
Houston hospitals are running out of water amid power outages
"Houston is one of the places where as you mentioned. Hospitals have been hit read reports today about pipes bursting multiple houston hospitals as they struggle without heat without water. Obviously the idea of having no water pressure no ability to flush toilets or running water to clean anything. Hospital is a nightmare scenario. What can you tell us about that that status in harris county and and the circumstances of your hospitals right now so we lost power on a very early monday morning about one in the morning and that meant that many of the generators that keep that water pressure going were down That then allows bacteria to seep into the water causing wool water notices right now as of about an hour ago that got my briefing. We have two hundred and twenty two cities and municipal utility districts within harris county. That are under boil water notices. That's about three point. Three million people who cannot drink their water as the the roads become less impassable at least they can they can try and go out and purchase it. But again you know. We've got a lot of grocery stores that are not operating. Many folks of course have missed a whole week's work even amidst pandemic and they're facing all of these same cascading effects right now. The main concern is the water situation
Georgia prosecutor investigating Trump's call to Raffensperger
"In addition to the events of january sixth. The article mentioned just one other specific event quote president. Trump's conduct on january six twenty twenty one followed his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certification of the results of the twenty twenty presidential election. Those prior efforts included a phone call on january second during which president trump urged the secretary of state of georgia. Brad ravensburger to find enough votes. To overturn georgia presidential election results. President trump threatened secretary burger if he failed to do so. I know that that thing in georgia that little episode of attempted election interference by donald trump has been swallowed up by history already. This phone call was eclipsed by the violent attack on the us capitol just four days later. It's like how the resignation of vice president. Spiro agnew got swallowed up in history because watergate forced the resignation of president nixon right after it and so when i wrote a podcast and wrote a book about spiro. Agnew people are like. Who's that guy. He wouldn't believe what a big scandal that was for a minute until a much bigger scandal eclipsed it and made us all forget the earlier one when really really life changing terrible thing happens. It tends to blot out the memory of other really bad stuff. That might have happened just before this and so it is with this georgia call. But there's a reason that this georgia called this january second phone call is the one other specific event that the author author the impeachment resolution decided to include in their charges against former president trump. Because it's because before the january sixth violent attack on the us capitol members of congress. Were already considering a second impeachment of president trump just for that goal because at that point before island attack on the us capitol. His hour-long phone call to georgia secretary of state pushing and threatening george official to try to get the election results overturned there before the attack on the capital that was president trump's most egregious and blatant act of trying to apparently criminally alter and mess with the election results to try to hold onto power. And he not only did it. It was all on tape. So what are we going to do here. But i only need eleven thousand votes found us. I need eleven thousand. Give me a break for you. Know what they did. And you're not reporting it. That's a that's a criminal. That's a criminal offense and you can't let that happen. That's that's a big risk to you and to ryan you lawyers. That's a big risk is not fair to take it away from us like this and it's got to be very costly in many ways and i think you have to say that you're gonna reexamine it and you can reexamine but reexamine it with people that wanna find answers not people that don't wanna find answers. You can't let it happen and you are letting it happen all you know i mean i'm notifying you. You're letting it happen. So all i wanna do is i just wanna find Eleven thousand seven hundred eighty loads. I want you to find exactly enough votes to declare me the winner of the election in your state. And if you don't that's a big risk to you. I'm notifying you all criminal offense by you say you have reexamined. Didn't i actually one or else. And when president trump made that call on january second four days before the attack on the capital he hit already called. Georgia's governor to pressure him. To overturn the state's election results to trump also personally called a level official in the georgia secretary of state's office. The guy in charge of elections investigations and spent a long time. Personally pressuring that guy to quote find the fraud that would result in overturning. The election results in georgia and declaring trump the winner while president trump was making all of these calls personally the top federal prosecutor in atlanta. Us attorney in atlanta resigns under direct pressure from the trump white house because trump felt and communicated to that the us attorney that he was not doing enough to find that non-existent fraud that would somehow allow the overthrowing of the election results. One of the things that made the series of escalating interventions georgia's election so remarkable. Was that it. It was just also blatantly illegal. Not just impeachable but illegal like go to jail illegal. It is against the law in georgia to solicit someone to commit election fraud state election officials to find you exactly the number of votes you need to turn the election result the other way threatening collections officials that they to change vote counts in your favor or else would surely seem to fall under that statute will now even as donald trump's second impeachment trial unfolds in the us senate and what a spectacle it is and that trial unfolds on an article of impeachment that specifically references trump's threatening call to george a secretary of state while nell a high profile state prosecutor in georgia district attorney the largest county in the state fulton county has now opened a criminal investigation that centers on that phone call district attorney. There has sent this letter to george secretary of state governor lieutenant governor and attorney general extracting them all to preserve any and all records related to the two thousand twenty election quote. This letter is notice that the fulton county district attorney has opened an investigation into attempts to influence the administration of the twenty twenty georgia general election. This investigation includes but is not limited to potential violations of georgia law prohibiting the solicitation of election fraud the making of false statements to state and local governmental bodies conspiracy racketeering violation of oath of office and any involvement in violence or threats related to the elections administration quote. This matter is of high importance. Excuse me the this matter is of high priority. The next fulton county grand jury is due to convene in march. This office will begin requesting grand jury subpoenas as necessary at that time
Hacker attempted to poison water supply of Florida city
"On friday afternoon somebody tempered with the drinking water in the city of oldsmar florida Before the water leaves the oldsmar treatment facility. They've got a town water treatment facility before it leaves their inflows into people's taps certain chemicals and additives get added to drinking water to make it safe for people to drink and at one thirty pm on this past friday. An employee at the oldsmar water treatment. Plant notice that the cursor on his computer screen it started moving around on its own the cursor pulled up the control for chemical called sodium hydroxide. So i'm hydroxide is better known by the common name lie l. y. Lies used to help regulate the acidity of the drinking water. It's added to potable water and very small amounts to regulate the ph of the water but in high doses live course can be dangerous profoundly so it's the same chemical that used in liquid drain cleaners typically oldsmar ads lie into its water in the amount of one hundred parts per million or less but on friday morning that water treatment employees watched that phantom cursor move the controls in the water treatment software to increase the amount of li- added into old mars water from less than one hundred parts per million to over eleven thousand parts per million. It was obvious to this employee right away that his computer was being hacked he immediately took control of the machine Undid what the hacker had just done before the water could be significantly contaminated today the county sheriff announced that the water treatment facility on friday was unlawfully hacked. He said the fbi and the us secret service are now involved in an ongoing investigation as of now there are known suspects. It's unknown whether the hacker was located overseas or here in the united states city officials made it clear today that even if that water treatment employee hadn't been so attentive on friday and hadn't seen the hack happen in real time it's still would've taken at least a full day before that contaminated water hit people's taps they say there are other safeguards in place that would have detected the strong change the contamination of water way before then. So they're saying that this kind of attack on the city's water supply would have been caught some other way if it wasn't caught the way that it was which i guess is comforting in a sense but until you know more about this hack including how hard it was to pull off it really does raise all sorts of questions about how secure all of those safeguards really were. If you could hack the computer that added the lives of the water. Could you have hacked the alarms that are supposed to alert people that the ph is wrong in the water as it's getting to people's taps an attack on our critical infrastructure on our electricity on our hospitals and the water we drink. That is the nightmare scenario for cyber warfare leading leaving the conceptual realm that most of us don't get into the terrorism realm that a lot of us think about all the time. That nightmare has never been fully realized in this country but in oldsmar florida on friday we got one big step closer nicole. Pro roth is a cybersecurity reporter for the new york times. she's really really good. She has reported on critical infrastructure attacks. All over the world This is what she had to say tonight. After hearing the news out of oldsmar she says quote. I always put water treatment plants. I in my stories in my lineup of remotely hackel infrastructure. Because this is the attack scenario that freaked me out the most to date. These attacks have been near misses yet. We continue to see determined hackers poking and probing these systems warned of cyber pearl harbor bombs but water. Contamination is a silent though no less deadly
South Los Angeles communities seeking vaccine
"Us now. Is the man who oversees vaccine distribution at ketteringhealth center in south los angeles dr jerry. Abraham abraham so real honor to have you here. Thank you so much for your time tonight. Thank you for having me rachel. Let me start just by asking you if i've got any of this this wrong. I've tried to give sort of a reasonable snapshot of how you and your colleagues have been approaching this work. Let me ask you if i missed anything. Crucial if i got anything wrong now. I really appreciate you telling the story. I think it's important to hear where we were. And then how from the very beginning. We've been extremely solutions oriented. And that's how we've gotten to where we are right now. Eighteen thousand doses into the arms of angelenos. How have you been able to beat this. Vaccine equity issue that has been a terrible in every state in the country. We've got the proportion of people of color getting the vaccine significantly lower than what their proportion is of the population. How are you beating that pattern. Did you know in advance how you were going to tackle that problem or has it been a trial and error evolving process. Sure i'll just Start by saying a few things. We've felt nothing but cooperation and solidarity with our colleagues of the department of public health. You know we've been in complete lockstep partnership we appreciate everything that they've done everything that we've asked for from the state and we've been in close communication with the cdc and others and so. I think that's been extremely helpful. That i truly believe. We're all in this together. And i get that sense. And that's critical they at the end of the day. There's just three things that really are the challenge and that's not enough vaccine's not enough hands to deliver them and just not enough resources then funding in terms of the specific problems that i think we're having with communities of color around the country. There's been a lot of attention. to vaccine. hesitancy understandable vaccine have hesitancy among lots of different communities of color for lots of different reasons and clearly that has to be some piece of the puzzle but it does also feel like there are barriers to entry in terms of how you get yourself vaccine appointment. How you get your mom or your dad a vaccine appointment or some other elder in your community how we signed people up how we asked them to come to sites where vaccines are available. I'm and it does seem like you've cracked that code a little bit. You know so kind of going back really quickly You mentioned How why are we effective. And are we actually Delivering vaccines to people who are in most need particularly communities of color black and brown wear the heat maps show the highest rates of cove. Infection are When we look at how it was distributed in dc or you look at chicago's maps. And then you showed us the maps of los angeles. We really wanted to prioritize the most vulnerable here in south los angeles so our first mantra. Was you know we put on our oxygen mask first and then we were gonna make sure that we turn to our neighbors and made sure that we offered them this lifesaving essential medicine so we actually vaccinated are three hundred to four hundred employees and then we went to black and brown healthcare workers throughout south los angeles than they really didn't have places to turn because they're not part of large health systems so we really became their safe haven there safe harbor to be vaccinated after that. We said that's not enough. We weren't in it just tobaks ourselves. We really wanted to make sure that we can get to every grandma and grandpa every vulnerable senior every essential worker that needs it when they are eligible. And so that is the commitment that we've made to kind of get to where we're at but of course you know just not enough vaccine so at the end of every day. It's just as constant struggle to try to get through the day and we work so lockstep with the county to find expiring doses in our mantra. Here at catcher in is no drop will go to waste and we make sure that every drop ghost in someone's arm but that needs to be our seniors that needs to be are black and brown healthcare workers it needs to be all of our health care workers And then there are times we have expiring doses me. Don't have folks lined up and that's where we're partnering with you. Know politicians offices community based organizations faith based organizations. We need to figure out. Better ways to get those who are shut out and that's where our solutions came in making sure that there were work arounds for the website work arounds for not having a cell phone not having email. Maybe not having a driver's license because you're undocumented worker or an undocumented grandma in this community what if you don't have a car we live in an area where predominantly our patients. don't have access to transportation. We made it very clear that we were going to be a walkup site because not having a car should not be a barrier. It's not getting a vaccine. Not having an email and not having a phone is not a buried not getting a vaccine not having internet is not a reason to not get a vaccine and in here we were so focused and committed to overcoming those barriers. We've also been very positive. I think the optimism that you feel and sense and you see in the stories. We've got music dancing. We're happy we're smiling. Because we know that this is the solution to overcoming this epidemic to reopening our economy to getting back to work to getting back to loving our loved ones and hugging and all the things that we did before. This epidemic began so we're actually joyous every day that we can be a part of the solution which has don't have enough vaccine to do the job and do it the best we know we can
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Not to democrats and republicans two americans and two patriots and to those who care about our great country. Congressman had came jeffries. The chairman of the democratic caucus was a impeachment manager in the first impeachment of donald trump. The new slate of impeachment managers for second impeachment of the president just announced tonight. Sir thanks for helping us understand what's going on. I know things are moving fast right now. Breaks up all right. We've got lots more to come as this can. Developing story continues to evolve again tonight. The house is voting on an amendment. Excuse me on. A resolution to call vice president pence to invoke the twenty fifth amendment to remove the president from power vice president. Pence says he will not do that. He has put that in writing as of tonight but the next order of business will be to put the articles of impeachment against president trump on the house floor. We expect that vote to be sometime tomorrow. The whole process rocked tonight by reporting i in the new york times that indeed the house. Excuse me the senate republican leader mitch. Mcconnell is broadly supportive of the impeachment effort against president trump raising the prospect that following the house impeachment vote. Tomorrow there will be vote in the senate to convict the president and remove him from office all those developments closely as we can forgot moorhead next. Stay with us. Hey everyone it's chris. As these days. I find it helpful to just take a step back from the day. Onslaught of news and take a broader..
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Twenty fifth amendment and declared donald trump no longer fit to serve in office. And so we'll pass that resolution tonight and i expect rachel. They will be bipartisan in nature. Tomorrow we will proceed to pass the articles of impeachment charging donald trump with the incitement of a violent insurrection in attack on the capital. That left five people dead including the murder of police officer. Police officers be with pipes and flagpoles and mace and taste and had bear spray. Used on them. Offices ransacked the capital desecrated. Urine and feces left behind all encouraged and incited by the big line at donald trump. Told he won. The election congressman. Jaffrey's i've been rocked back a little bit Tonight by this reporting. I from the new york times that the republican leader in the senate mitch. Mcconnell is broadly supportive of the impeachment effort at least happy that this is being pursued in in the house. I have to ask you given the reporting that. Senator mcconnell is open to himself voting to convict the president That that raises questions as to how quickly he would move for a senate trial But he wants to see the article of impeachment. I he wants to hear the arguments about it. Is there any bicameral negotiation. Going on is speaker pelosi or anybody else. From democratic leadership even democrats in the senate you may know of who are in communication with senator mcconnell to try to get him to get him to someplace where he'd be comfortable with the articles as presented and with potentially organizing a vote to convict and remove. I do believe that some of my house colleagues including a few who have already indicated that they plan to vote. Yes on the articles of impeachment tomorrow had any communication with some of the senate republican colleagues to discuss the urgent need to deal with this situation every minute every hour every day to donald trump remains in office. He's an existential threat to our way of life that was demonstrated in clear ways on january sixth. And so it's not surprising to me. Rachel that momentum continues to build to do the right thing..
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Things are moving very fast now so much so that. I'm not sure that even yesterday at this time. When i was talking to you here on this bat channel at this time i don't think even yesterday i could have imagined that i would be telling you tonight what i'm about to tell you. But here's the facts. Here's where we are tonight. The house of representatives is voting on a resolution to urge vice president mike pence to act in accordance with the twenty fifth amendment to the constitution to urge a majority of the trump cabinet to vote with him to remove president trump from office now twenty fifth amendment resolution in the house will pass vice president. Pence is not expected to go along with that imploring resolution from the house. Even though the president's sick an angry mob on him at the us capitol less than a week ago. An angry mob that then tried to hunt the vice president down and kill him. At least that's what they said in their own words they were going to do the president tonight Excuse me the vice president tonight. Made public this letter to nancy. Pelosi telling her formerly that he will not take that route that he doesn't support the twenty fifth amendment path here regardless of what the house passes so then what's next ball. The rules committee in the house is expected to take another vote tonight. Separate and apart from all this twenty fifth amendment stuff. They will vote to put an article of impeachment against president trump on the house floor for a vote sometime tomorrow. And here's what was unimaginable about this. Even even just twenty four hours ago we have now started to see house republicans. Come out and say they will vote with democrats tomorrow to impeach president trump again Republican congressman john. Capco of new york was the first come out and say that he would support impeachment saying in part quote we take oaths to defend the constitution because at times the constitution needs to be defended without the peaceful transfer of power and the acknowledgement of election results. We can't sustain system. Congress has tasked with holding the executive accountable to allow the president of the united states to incite. This attack without consequence is a direct threat to the future of democracy. For that reason. I cannot sit by without taking action. I will vote to impeach. The president. republican congressman john. Kako tonight after him. It was republican congresswoman. Liz cheney of wyoming. She of course his daughter of the hardline. Right-wing dick cheney who was vice-president to george w bush. Liz cheney statement tonight was even more blunt than what we got from congressman kako. She said quote on january. Six violent mob attacked the us capital to obstruct the process of our democracy and to stop the counting of presidential electoral votes. This insurrection caused injury. Death and destruction in the most sacred space and our republic much more will become clear in coming days and weeks. She says but what we know. Now is enough the president of the united states summoned to this mob mob and he lit the flame of this attack. Everything that followed was his doing. None of this would have happened without the president. The president could have immediately and forcefully intervened to stop the violence. He did not she concludes. There has never been a greater betrayal by a president of his office at his oath to the constitution. I will vote to impeach the president. That was the statement from liz cheney. Who is the number three republican in the house republican leadership since. Then republican congressman. Adam kinzer also come out and said that he will vote to impeach the president publican carbon atoms of illinois and there may yet be more. But even those three are news right remember. The first time trump was impeached a year ago. Not a single. Republican house voted with democrats to support that impeachment for him trying to force a foreign country to intervene to help him in the twenty twenty election against by but this time for the second impeachment it will be a bipartisan impeachment. Vote in the house. It is a near certainty that donald trump will be the first president ever to be impeached twice. That will happen tomorrow. Now is the legitimately open question as to whether he will also be the first president and not only be impeached in the house but to also be convicted in the us senate and thereby removed from office. I twenty four hours ago. I would not have told you. Under any circumstances that. I thought this would be alive question but apparently this is a live question. Now just remarkable news tonight. The new york times i to report tonight then. Cnn's soon match the reporting but the new york times was first to report that. The top republican in the senate republican senator mitch mcconnell at least in some sense of the word is supportive of the impeachment effort against president trump. Here's how the the times phrased this report from jonathan martin and maggie haberman quote. Senator mitch mcconnell of kentucky. The republican leader has told associates that he believes president trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased. That democrats are moving to impeach him believing that it will make it easier to purge trump from the party. According to people familiar with mcconnell thinking mr mcconnell has indicated that he wants to see the specific articles of impeachment. The house is set to approve on wednesday and he wants to hear the eventual arguments in the senate but the senate republican leader has made clear in private discussions. That he believes now is the moment to move on from the weakened lame duck president whom he blames for causing republicans to lose the senate. Cnn ads this characterization. About mcconnell's thinking quote mcconnell has made no commitments on voting to convict trump but quote. His silence on impeachment has been deliberate as he leaves. Open the option of supporting impeachment conviction and removal from office. You'll remember that mitch. Mcconnell last time around not only voted against convicting trump. The last time the house impeached him right. The only republican you voted convict trump a year ago. Mitt romney but mcconnell was not only a no vote on conviction firstly and loudly against those impeachment proceedings even started by the time impeachment had made it through the house and got to the senate. Mcconnell didn't allow any witnesses to testify essentially didn't allow real senate trial to happen basically blocked the whole thing this time. If this new reporting is accurate mcconnell's kind of down with it and mitch. Mcconnell supports the impeachment effort that raises the prospect that there may very well be enough votes in the united states senate to convict president trump and remove him from office. Which would be the first time that has happened. Any president in us history if most or all of the senate democrats are going to vote to convict. President trump republicans would need about a dozen and a half of their senators to vote to convict..
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"You've been through your sheriff things and you're not particularly long life. I want to ask if what you've seen in New York since. The influx of patients really started if it seems to you that New York is adapting if clinicians are learning more about what to do if hospitals are more than just falling apart and being inundated if they are getting better at how to treat these patients that are in such distress. Such an important question. I've been saying that I survived a bullet but I fear Kobe. Nineteen the reason is because I know the physical exhaustion in the mental anguish. That comes with it you. You mentioned bid from that piece. I wrote five years ago right now. What we're seeing is new protocols. Every day REC- teams are adapting at never seen so much solidarity in the Er with the people. I'm working with on a daily basis. We have attending urology service coming down in helping us out. It's all hands on deck. Everyone is getting prepared. The question is is it enough in New York City. Were we too late and can we adapt quick enough to be able to provide the best quality of care for all of the patients? That are increasingly. Come into our ears that are increasingly being intimated putting on mechanical ventilation and we know that beds are starting to sell up we know the rate may be decreasing a bit but what we know is also a big lies between when people get infected and when they show up and see me and we determine whether or not they need a breathing too and that's still many weeks off for all of us on the frontline concern. All of us are ready. The question is do. We have the supplies. Do we have the beds in really? Do we have the medications and other things that we need to be able to do this? The best were a couple of weeks into very widespread national concern about New York City hospitals and clinicians and healthcare workers. Well resourced enough not only to treat patients but also take care of themselves. Has that concern? And all of this discussion translated at all in a way that you've been able to see in terms of more resources getting to you more equipment getting to you More even more people Being brought on board to share the load look day by day. We're trying to catch up. We're trying to get a few days in front of this. We know the needs are going to be huge. Next couple weeks We need people here now. We need help just today. My hospital put out a call for medical volunteers. Not only will that. Help us on the frontline here but people will get the skills that they need will be able to take of patients and then we'll all go wherever you are for. Your family isn't wherever your communities. Impacted as the IRS throws across the country. One of the biggest laments I have from a response in two thousand fourteen in West Africa to a Bulla is at in the US. We didn't really have one. We prepare domestically. We didn't send providers to West Africa relatively few compared to nearly every other developed nation in the world for dealing with the consequences. Now with so few people who are you suspending days in personal protective equipment seeing people. I in front of them that were normal just a few hours earlier working with low resources we all learn really valuable skills that I think are super essential here right now. Unfortunately we didn't show up five years ago in. We're paying the price for it right now. Craig Spencer New York City Emergency Room Doctor Director of Global Health -mergency medicine at Columbia University Medical Center. Appreciate you being here tonight. You and all your colleagues Have our thanks and appreciation. Thanks Dr Stay in touch with us. Thank you. We'll go to work every day for you. Thanks. We'll be right back last.
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"They have said yes to other cities? Who asked for the same thing? Let's somebody on frontlines. That's next. Stay with us. Dr Has Been Hospitalized here in New York tonight. He is sick and he is just back from treating Ebola patients in west Africa sources tell NBC News Doctor Craig. Spencer called the Department of Health at eleven fifty two this morning. Complaining OF FEVER NAUSEA AND FATIGUE. The do age then called nine one. One emergency workers determined his symptoms were consistent with the Bulla three weeks after that doctor Craig. Spencer did recover from that Harrowing Experience. A few months later he wrote about being on the front lines of that viral outbreak. He said quote as a clinician and academia. I've worked in places just miles from active conflict and managed to grow used to the sight of soldiers and the sound of gunfire but this microscopic virus. An invisible enemy made me uneasy bulla which he survived now. That same doctor Doctor Craig. Spencer is on the front lines again this time in New York fighting corona virus. Here's how he describes his days now quote walk in for your eight am shift. There's a cacophony of coughing. You Stop Mask Up. Walk in nearly. Every patient is the same young and old cough shortness of breath fever. You're notified of another really sick patient. They need to be put on life support to patients in rooms right next to each other both getting breathing tubes. It's not even ten. Am yet quote. You're afraid to take off the mask. It's the only thing that protects you. Surely you can last a little longer and west Africa during Ebola. You spent hours in a hot suit without water. One more patient one more patient joining us now. Is Doctor Craig Spencer? He's a New York City..
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"My advice to America would be that these guidelines are a national. Stay at home order. Wait freeze frame there for a second. There's a national stay at home order now or it's just your advice or you're hoping that there would be what you're calling for an or did you just issue one. We're the citizens of the nation with the worst corona virus outbreak on earth. Where our death toll? And our case numbers are skyrocketing out of control as far as we know. There's no national policy in this country to try to slow that down but this morning. If you happen to be watching the today show you would have heard from one official. Who was speaking apparently off the cuff. That his advice is that the guidelines that exist our national. Stay at home order. Apparently that's what counts as the American federal government developing announcing the first time. A national policy to try to slow this epidemic. That has already killed more than four thousand seven hundred Americans with tens if not hundreds of thousands more of us in its sights after that apparently unplanned blurt by the surgeon general on on on morning network. Tv about what? He now maybe says might be a national. Stay at home order after that. Florida Republican Governor Raimondo. Santa's did decide today that okay now. Finally today in April he will at long last put a stay at home order in effect in his State. Because now maybe he believes he's had the instruction from the White House or at least he heard a slip of the tongue by a single official on TV. That suggested that maybe that was his permission slip. Maybe it might be a good idea. Governor Disentis has now issued his stay home order soon. We got the same word at long last from the governor of Georgia who finally issued his own. Stay at home order at long last today. After saying I kid you not that he only just learned today he only just heard that people who are as symptomatic can still spread the virus. And so maybe that's why everybody should stay at home. Governor of Georgia today said he had never heard that before today. The CDC has announced that individuals can be infected and begin to spread corona virus earlier than previously thought even if they have no symptoms from a public health standpoint. This is a revelation and a game changer. A revelation to everybody. Who'S BEEN ON PLANET GOVERNOR? Brian Kemp for the past couple of months. That must indeed be a revelation. No stay at home order until today because he had no idea until today's revelation that asymmetric people can spread it. It must be an absolute revelation. Everybody who's been living inside his head for the past couple of months. Also the fact that you know. Tom Brady left the Patriots. Also daffodils this time of year. There's some other stuff I could tell you about for. The life I mean governor kept stay at home order again which just occurred to him today because of his revelation is something. He's not going to even sign until tomorrow and he's not going to put it into effect until Friday because he's only had this revelation today and you know why rush two of his counties are in the top five counties in the country in terms of their per capita infection. Rates Governor's going to put this into effect on Friday. Sometimes you know. He just learned today about a symptom people spreading it. It's crazy right game changer. The governor of Mississippi Tate Reeves also today relented after his earlier order. That not only didn't institute. Statewide stay at home but actually overrode efforts by Mississippi counties and towns to try to keep themselves safe after that remarkable display within the last few days from the Mississippi Governor today he to relented and announced a stay at home order as well he too is waiting until Friday night to put it into effect why I don't know but Mississippi has another day and a half before it kicks in because who knows. Pennsylvania finally put in a statewide order today to they'd had one that affected most counties in the state but now they finally got their statewide one governor. Tom Wolfe also Nevada. Finally got their stay at home order today. That still leaves a bunch of American States with no stay at home mortars even though all of these states have rising numbers of corona virus cases. It leaves these states as places that have no stay at home order or some stay at home orders here there but not for the whole state and again every single one of those states without a stay at home order has corona case numbers co Corona virus case numbers that are rising because every state in the country has corona Vice Colorado virus case numbers that are rising. Nobody is exempt. Nobody's geographically on the sidelines of this. It's everywhere case numbers going up everywhere and case numbers rise exponentially because every infected person whether or not they've got symptoms is infecting on average more than one additional person. And so if you've got any euro about to have a lot but without a national policy for what we're supposed to do to head off those rising numbers that kind of patchwork is what you get you know. Maybe the governor still have stay at home orders. Maybe they weren't watching the today show today when the surgeon general accidentally said there was a national. Stay at home order. Maybe someday that'll become official other some somewhere other than in a single interview on a single TV show by a single official apparently speaking on his own behalf which some states nevertheless decided to interpret as federal government's new policy. I mean it's just insane at this point it's insane at this point. You look at the other countries in the world that have outbreaks as bad as us. Well actually we stand alone. You look at other countries in the world who have had terrible outbreaks. At least they've got a national policy. It's insane it's fatal. It's insane in terms of policy and leadership and Ethics. It's also inch insane in terms of how grossly the federal government's peace of this already is. There's no national policy but at least there is some stuff. They're supposed to be running but look how they're handling that CNN first report last night that the Pentagon's offer of two thousand ventilators that they were GonNa make available for civilian use and more than a dozen certified lapse that they were GonNa make available for civilian use for processing corona virus test results. Those officer offers made more than a couple of weeks ago by the Pentagon have not been taken up have not been taken up by the trump administration because FEMA and health and Human Services Administration and the trump administration they just elected not to tap those resources from the Pentagon even while states and mayors and individual hospitals are scrambling for themselves to try to find those things anywhere they can one of the place they could find them is our own Pentagon who was volunteering them but the trump administration has left that stuff just sitting. Then there's the national stockpile of emergency medical supplies that's been sending things out hither and yon sort inexplicably for weeks now states like Oklahoma and Kentucky receiving things from the stockpile that they never asked for well other states like Illinois and Massachusetts aren't getting what they asked for at all now the Washington Post and the New York Times both have report citing anonymous federal officials saying tonight that the federal stockpile is basically gone although the White House appears to have no idea of that if they do understand it they haven't been honest about it. Here's The Washington Post tonight quote. The government's emergency stockpile of respirator masks gloves and other. Medical supplies is nearly exhausted. Leaving the trump administration and the states to compete for personal protective equipment in a freewheeling wheeling global marketplace rife with profiteering and price-gouging to Department of Homeland Security officials said the stores kept in the Department of Health and Human Services Strategic National Stockpile are nearly gone despite assurances from the White House. That there is availability. Why is the White House giving states and mayor's assurances that there's availability? If there isn't that they know that there is that they know that that stuff is gone. Which is worse if they don't know and they're saying out of ignorance sure we got plenty or if they do know that that stuff is gone and they're telling people it's fine there's plenty even though they know it's not there which is worse. I mean practically the same effect right because the White House has not tried to nationalize the supply chain for personal protective equipment even today and other critical medical supplies. Us companies that manufacture that kind of stuff. Even this week have been selling personal protective equipment that is desperately needed in American hospitals. Us companies that. Make this stuff. Even this week have been selling it overseas sending it to other countries instead of making it available here. Us manufacturers stuff people who've got it in warehouses in this country are exporting it because the federal government hasn't told them that's a bad idea they shouldn't be doing it Forbes reporting that on Monday alone this week two days ago. Roughly two hundred eighty million masks in warehouses around the United States were purchased by foreign buyers to be sent out of this country because the federal government has not made arrangements to keep that material here for use use a famous spokesperson telling politico dot com that FEMA quote has not actively encouraged or discouraged US companies from exporting such materials overseas the Washington. Post reporting that there are no signs that the trump administration has made any effort to stop. Us companies from exporting medical masks and other supplies so they could be used in US hospitals instead because of course not the New York Times now reporting this evening that thousands of the ventilators the federal government does have in its stockpile ventilators that it keeps promising. It's going to send out to where they're needed. Thousands of those machines do not work because the trump administration allowed the contract to maintain these machines to lapse last summer. Because of course they did please. Could we have a new federal government? At least just for this four thousand seven hundred American lives and counting and this is still how bad they are this. How far into it this far into it? Not just it's not just the case that this virus is a crisis and that this infectious disease is spreading in the United States. And we have to cope with it. And it's got exponential growth. It's not just the natural attack of the virus this far into it with us this much exposed to it already so much exposed that we're closing in on five thousand. Americans dead by tomorrow with a White House expecting hoping that they'll keep the death range for Americans between one hundred thousand and a quarter million people right this far into it the federal government. The stuff they are actively in control of been nobody else is. That stuff doesn't get better ever. They're not nationalizing. The federal supply chain the the national supply chain for for protective equipment and further medical supplies. Even when the military is volunteering things for civilian use. They're not able to get it together to do that. They're not able to get it together to can communicate truthful information as to what the federal government's supplies are and how many they have and the stuff they've got there have not been keeping in running order because they let the maintenance supplies the maintenance supply and supply contracts laps. And they're they're not getting any better you guys. I mean maybe today. The surgeon general declared a national. Stay at home order. Maybe but maybe that was kind.
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Msnbc really happy to have you with us in one thousand nine hundred eighty three the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York. City Was a bombing that injured over. A thousand people killed six people. This is well before nine eleven. This was the first attack on the World Trade Center bombing in one thousand nine thousand three. It was masterminded by terrorist named Ramsey. Ahmed Yussef was arrested in the wake of that attack. He was reportedly arrested while he was literally right. In the middle of making another bomb he was extradited to this country and he was put on trial in federal court and his trial would be held up for years in its wake as basically a paragon of what the federal courts can do even in horrific terrorism cases even in cases with more than one thousand people hurt by the crime in question even in cases with huge national security and intelligence implications even in cases where the defendant is an absolutely unrepentant international terrorist. Who wants every chance he can get the US courtroom to denounce the United States and to try to recruit other people to his cause the Ramsey Yousef case after the nineteen ninety three World Trade Center bombing is part of how we know a country that terrorism cases can be handled and handled well by our normal courts? And you don't need to invent some kangaroo court system somewhere else to handle serious cases like that? The Ramsey Yousef trial took about five. Months is a long trial. He was convicted at the N. T. was sentenced to life in prison. Plus two hundred and forty years. What his conviction was appealed to higher? Court the Appeals Court looked at the conduct of that five month trial and said there was nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with how it was. Conducted the appeals court said the fairness of the proceedings over which judge Duffy presided is beyond doubt judge. Duffy was judge Kevin. Duffy presided over the Ramseys of trial and a number of other high profile terrorism prosecutions in his federal courtroom in the Southern District of New York. One of the things his. He's remembered for over. The course of his career. Is that when it came time in that high profile case for him to sentence Ramsey Yousef for the World Trade Center bombing and Ramzy? Yussef got up and he spoke on his own behalf and gave this rant about how proud he was to be a terrorist against the godless United States. One of the things Judge Kevin. Duffy is remembered for is that in that moment at that. Sentencing he responded to that defendant by citing him multiple versus from the Koran not only explaining to Ramsey Yousef why he was getting life plus two hundred forty years but rebutting on use own terms. Everything that use of said to try to cloak his attack in some kind of bogus religious dress. Judge Duffy said from the bench that day. You Ramzi Yousef came to this country pretending to be an Islamic fundamentalist but you cared little or nothing for Islam or the faith of the Muslims rather you adored not Allah but the evil that you yourself have become you weren't seeking conversions. The only thing you wanted to do was caused death your God is not all you worship death and destruction what you do you do. Not For all that you do. It only satisfy your own twisted sense of Ego Ramsey Yousef. He said you are not fit to uphold Islam. Your God is death said that from the bench. Judge Duffy presided over a number of other serious terrorism cases including another plot. That Yousef was involved in to to blow up a dozen airliners all at once over the Pacific Ocean oversaw the trial of the head of the Gambino crime family until back I was assassinated in the middle of the trial. Judge Duffy oversaw so many high profile dangerous cases that for years he and his family had twenty four hour round the clock protection from a team of us. Marshals just a remarkable career as a judge judge. Kevin Duffy died today from Corona virus. He was in a short term rehabilitation facility. After having been ill recently he was eighty seven years old. His family confirmed today that he he tested positive and he did die today and it's not that his death is more important than any other. He's one of the more than four thousand seven hundred Americans who has already been killed by the crown virus. He's one of the estimated nine hundred ten Americans killed by this virus just today and there are GonNa be obituaries on national television for ninety nine point. Nine percent of the Americans were killed by this virus. Not Everybody is going to be an esteemed. Federal judge with an incredible career. History like Kevin Duffy. But everybody is going to be somewhat and the White House says it is aiming at a range of one hundred thousand to two hundred and forty thousand Americans who were going to die in the coming weeks. That is if the country gets it together in coming weeks to try to keep the numbers that low but those numbers. I mean. It's almost hard to imagine. Numbers that big all pertained individual people but every one of those you know one hundred thousand a two hundred and forty thousand people. I mean the old ones. The young ones the ones with other health issues. The ones without them the people in cities in areas the ones in hospitals the ones who inevitably die outside the hospital because there's no room for them in the hospitals. I mean they're all our responsibility. They're all part of our conscience. Now as Americans were alive in this time as we'll take responsibility as citizens for trying to get our national response to this virus in some kind of freaking order in order to minimize the number of deaths we are ultimately going to sustain. Today is the first day of A. Here's what the month of March was like an American now. The march is coming to a close. We can see how March went march. We started March first at eighty nine cases known in the country then the next day it was one hundred ten cases than one thirty then won sixteen to twenty nine three thirty three four forty six by the end of the first week in. March five hundred and forty five cases. Two days later it had doubled over a thousand cases but at the end of the second week it was over three thousand cases. Four thousand the next day six thousand the day after eight thousand after that then thirteen thousand by the end of week three we are over thirty four thousand cases and then in one week we went from those thirty four thousand cases to over one hundred forty thousand in the last two days of the month we went from over one hundred forty thousand cases to over one hundred eighty five thousand and now tonight we are over two hundred and ten thousand cases to start the month of April and there is no slowing down inside. The Governor of Louisiana today held a press conference to highlight the fact. That Wall New York City remains the epicenter of the nation's pain and death at this point of the epidemic right now if you WanNa talk about it. Statistically the two counties with the highest case rates per capita in the whole country are both in Louisiana World Saint John the Baptist parish is about thirty miles west of New Orleans. They have the worst per capita case rate in the country. Second per capita case rate in the country is Orleans parish which is the city of New Orleans after them three and four two counties in rural Georgia for the town of Albany. Georgia is the center of an area in rural Georgia that is just being decimated along with that region's one under-resourced and beleaguered and now overrun hospital. I mean this is a crisis that is unfolding in specific places in specific ways involving specific people all over this country every American who's died thus far has a life store right but this is a national crisis. This is a national disaster that needs resources and national leadership everywhere that applies to all of us. Which is the thing we still don't have you know. Sometimes I think that's easier to see not looking at the individual cases and the individual lives and the individual counties and parishes that are affected. I think sometimes that's easier to see from afar and so look globally. I mean here's us in context internationally as of tonight. This is the data. That's compiled daily by the date of Israel visualization wizards at the at the Financial Times. At look at look at the the upper part of this. This graph right. The good news here is that the other two worst outbreaks on earth besides US Italy and Spain they are now seeing their daily death tolls plateauing. See how those lines again flat. But we're the worst outbreak on earth. We've got not only more cases than any other country on earth now by far but look at look at the trajectory of that curve. That's our death rate right now and it is still headed almost straight up without any relief in sight. We are not getting this thing under control and still. There are no national measures in place to try to slow the spread of it. I mean in Italy. You can say what they're doing this a country in Spain. You can say what they're doing as a country in France. You can say what they're doing as a country. We're not doing anything as a country. The president was asked tonight why he didn't propose a national stay at home order and he. He's sort of rift on the question and fiddled around with the question ultimately landed on basically saying well in somewhere like Alaska. You wouldn't need it. That was the president's answer tonight for why there shouldn't be a national stay at home order. Take Lasco you wouldn't need one there. You know what they've already got over one hundred and thirty cases in Alaska and there is already. I stay in home order in that state. Although the president apparently has no idea about that as of yesterday the governor of the third largest state in the country Republican Governor Rhonda Santos of Florida was still saying publicly that he still wasn't planning on putting in place a stay at home order for his State because the federal government the White House hadn't told him that he should never mind that. Florida has seven thousand plus cases already. The governor said as far as he could tell the White House didn't want him to do it until they told them to do it he wouldn't do. It asked about that yesterday. Vice President Mike Pence. Basically concurred and said yeah. We don't actually really have any advice to give the governor. The White House Corona Virus Task Force will continue to take the posher that we will defer to state and local health authorities on any measures. They deem appropriate. You do what you want. What can we defer we? Florida isn't doing a stay at home order because we haven't told the governor to do one. Well we're not really in the business of that kind of thing so we defer whatever. He's deferring us well. We differ right back so whatever. Twenty million residents of Florida. It took an appearance on the today. Show this morning for the surgeon general of the United States to I think perhaps inadvertently meander himself around to the idea that yes maybe there should be some federal direction on this key issue. Maybe their guidelines that say that look the more we social distance the more we stay at home. The less spread of disease. There will be my advice to America would be that these guidelines very national. Stay at.
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"And we've got to change it talked to you about sort of how you see yourself fitting into Democratic Party politics at this point interesting news today about Steve Bullock. He was in and out in a hot minute. And the presidential race and Democrats are ecstatic today about the reports that he is going to jump into that Senate rate send Montana because he's perceived to be the best shot at winning back that the Democrats which would go along way toward getting Mitch McConnell out of Control of the Senate now when he was running for president part of the reason he articulated for why he was running for president because he worried that the primary was two left he were the policies like Medicare for all your signature. Healthcare policy was going to be alienating to too many potential Democratic voters so in a universe in which you're the leading war one of the two leading candidates for the nomination you may be the nominee. Steve Bullock is a very important democratic Senate nominee. Potentially in Montana. Can you help him get elected or do you have to keep your distance that he will he will make decisions but of course? I can help them at the. I've heard this argument a whole lot of time. I believe that in the general election the way you be trump. Is that the largest voter turnout in history. This country do not underestimate donald trump. You'll have endless amounts of money. Because he doesn't believe in the rule of law He will combine federal agencies with his own campaign. He has loyal group of supporters. So it's going to be so easy to beat them but I believe that it will be very hard to beat him when you're running a old fashioned type of campaign when you're running a you know the same old same old. You need energy. You need excitement. We need to bring working class people into the campaign some of them may have voted for trump. We need to bring young people into the campaign. Maybe who never voted before? And you talk about Medicare for all Medicare for all is wildly popular with working class and lower income people who understand that we have a dysfunctional health care system. We are spending twice as much and by the way I would love to debate Joe Biden on this issue. Give us an hour on. Msnbc all right where we can talk about how anybody could defend a system in which we're spending twice as much per capita on healthcare as the people of any other country and yet eighty seven million uninsured thirty thousand die. Half a million people go bankrupt every year because a medically related debt and we spent far and away the highest prices the world for prescription drugs. You want to defend that system. Let's do it. I think that that is an issue that wins that speaks the needs of working families people the test the greed and the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry is president of the United States. I will take them on. You know I'm GonNa ask you the follow-up question now about turnout because you you as long as I have been talking to you about American politics you have made this case and I have. I believe it that turnout is the difference in that when it comes to progressive politics in particular increased turnout gets you and increase shot of not only changing Democratic Party but changing the country. And the turnout is not there for you. The turn out is the turnout does not look good. Thus far in the Democratic primary we can talk about that in detail. But I know you're aware of it but let me just say this in terms of young people. I mean one of the issues that should be talked about to his credit and I wish we could do better. Joe Biden is doing very very well with people. Sixty five rolled. We're not doing phenomenally. Well with people thirty or undone now. Which Group of people is there? More potential to grow the base the bring people in clearly. Young people historically have not voted in the kinds of numbers that one would like them to vote. It's going up but it is nowhere near as high as it is with all it's not going up and that's with your campaign right now. Firing on all cylinders and all the benefit you out from all the amazing organizing you didn't 2016. No states last night's on increase in young voters as a percentage of the electorate compared with twenty sixteen in in North Carolina and Tennessee and Virginia even here in Vermont Young voters made up a smaller proportion of the electorate than in twenty sixteen. Why are fewer young people turning out in twenty twenty? I mean what I will tell you is that an I what we tripled. We increase by thirty three percent. The number of young people who participate. I'm not familiar with these statistics. I really haven't seen them but look. This is the challenge that we have. We have the lowest voter turnout of almost every major country on earth less than sixty percent poor people in America by very big numbers. Do not vote. How do we bring them into the political process? Why do they not go? Why are young people not only? This is tough stuff. And you're right. We are trying to do that. I understand that it is easier to bring older. People have been voting for their whole lives but we are working really hard to try to bring people out. I think in the general election we will be successful. I WANNA I WANNA go back to that in terms of the general election how it might be different but on this question of working class voters in Virginia. Virginia was the one St yesterday where we actually did see a bit of a surge in voters without a four year college degree. In Virginia it was up in terms of raw numbers and the proportion from two thousand sixteen but Joe Biden carried. Those voters two to one and we didn't see a surge and working class voters and other states. And because it's the because it's so central to your idea of what your brand of politics is why people should get involved in the electoral process. But I don't understand is why and more while you're not this year and what I have seen. Is that in the previous states. In fact we did very well with working class people. This is the first one I'm hearing about that. But at the end of the day I have not the slightest out in the world that our campaign is the campaign that speaks the working class. People who have long been ignored with establishment has turned their backs on them. And if you look at the numbers Medicare for all is extremely popular with working class. People who cannot afford to pay in some cases twelve fifteen thousand dollars a year for the healthcare that they currently have so. I have zero doubt that our agenda which calls for raising the minimum wage to fifteen bucks demanding that the wealthy and the powerful stop paying their fair share of taxes dealing with climate change through a green new deal in creating up to twenty million jobs. That is the agenda that will win the election of the trump and the argument is that the agenda will drive the turnout overall. You've talked about needing the biggest voter turnout that America has ever seen and that you needed in those specific swabs the electorate that are underrepresented. That don't feel politics. Works for them. If the agenda is working to spike turn out in those groups to bring it up overall and I will tell you. The data says that. It's not right now in two thousand twenty data in the state. The early three states that you won the turnout was either. It was either flat or it was statistically significant in terms of its Nevada. One hundred twenty percent increase. Voter turnout New Hampshire the largest voter turnout in the history. I always flat. I was flat New Hampshire. When you compare it with two thousand and eight you look at population. Two thousand eight was when Obama ran his campaign. Yes all right. Well that's fine well bomber ran and exceptional campaign but in the Vata turnout was twenty percent higher. Shot Lodges Voter Turnout in. Its history was slow in terms of. Do you think that you should be able to match two thousand eight voter turnout numbers? I would hope so and I hope that in the general election I think the fact that here's the point about the general election number one. I believe I know that every Democratic candidate will support the widow. Those who have left the race. I will support Biden Biden will support me. We will bring together ninety nine percent of all Democratic voters. That's not the question they've got to come in. Because trump is the most dangerous president in modern history doesn't understand the constitution doesn't care for the rule of law is a racist and sexist et CETERA. We will get them so the challenges. How do you expand the vase? And if anybody thinks you could do it through the same old same old type of politics I would respectfully disagree your energy. You're GONNA need excitement and I think that is the campaign that we have. And by the way I do not accept that Medicare Medicare for all polled very well. Yesterday among Democratic voters demanding the wealthy and the powerful stop paying their fair share of taxes is extremely popular with the concept of a wealth tax that Elizabeth Warren and I have talked about is a very popular concept so I believe that not only. Are the ideas that I am talking about? Ideas that are long overdue ideas that exists in many cases in every other country. You're talking about Medicare for all you know we all right now. Fifty miles from the Canadian border go up to Canada. Everybody there has health care is a human right. The quality is good. They're spending less that fifty percent of what we're spending. Why why are you saying? And it speaks to the power of the drug companies the insurance companies who dominate because on and healthcare they make one hundred billion a prophet eighty seven million. People uninsured underinsured. I don't think it's a radical idea Rachel. I don't think making public colleges and universities as radical idea it exists in Germany existing countries and Scandinavia. All over the world and then you get the climate change. Is it radical to say that we should try to save the planet and tell the fossil fuel industry can't destroyed the planet? I don't think it's a radical idea so I reject problems that we have to use an extremist. There's nothing we are fighting for. That is extreme would exist all over this country it is what the American people want and are sanders. Have a lot more to ask you about including some news about corona virus a very surprising new proposal from the trump administration related to corona virus. That has a little touch on the Medicare for all right. Let's talk about that when we come back we're with Senator Bernie Sanders Vermont here in Burlington..
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"And now of course the intelligence community as well. The president is not mad apparently at the intelligence community assessment that Russia is intervening in this next election. Again to try to reelect them. At least he's not mad at Russia about it. He's mad at the intelligence community about it. He's mad at the intelligence community for warning other elements of the government about the fact that it is happening. The director of National Intelligence really was just fired this week because somebody in his office had the temerity to tell Congress. What Russia is doing this time to get elected again? The deputy to the director of National Intelligence a thirty year veteran also. I don't know if you've ever met anybody or if you know anybody who works in. Us intelligence in any capacity but think about what their jobs are like today. The president has just broadcast out loud. Not hinting not no implication here. No worries it's no qualms right. There's no hiding it. President has now broadcast here. If you work in the US intelligence community and you in the course of your job protecting this country discover an attack on our country. An attack on our democracy by a foreign adversary. You will be fired if you say. That is what you have found. The director of national intelligence was just fired because US intelligence agencies have found that because someone in his office warned Congress and again I think this turn of events just in the last week or so on our country calls on us as citizens to any number of things. You told me right. These are very dark. Turns that this country has taken very quickly but if nothing else literally the least we can do at this. Point is to stop talking about concerns worries a potential chilling affect the appearance of impropriety. The appearance of a conflict of interest the appearance of improper political influence concerns distress. Worries Right. This is not a warning. The dark days are not coming. The dark days are here and so those of us who have imagined times like this for our country who might have thought that the heroic thing for us to do as citizens of our country ever took these turns would be to sound the alarm to to articulate. What's wrong with the direction? Our country is taking to warn people about where it's heading for those of us who thought that would be the kind of heroism. That was called four. We were wrong because at least now. That's no longer the form of heroism that we need that time has passed. These guys are not sneaking around trying to get away with stuff and the heroism down dino catching them and telling people what they're doing they are proclaiming. F- openly that. The rules are gone. They will do what they want. The government will be turned against you. If you stand against this president that it's not a warning that is where we are. And so what do we do all the thought? We just want to be treated fairly like a lot of shooting happening. I don't care what he says. He's not getting a high. Everyone is mainly MSNBC correspondent and host of a new podcast into America featuring the journalist of NBC. News it's a show about politics about policy and about the power that both had shaping the lives of the American people. The roller coaster is not any easier to stomach now than it was two years ago. Each week we're going into America to tell voters stories. Ken For the country because in concert doesn't mean that we should lose all right to vote. New episodes dropped weekly and our first arrives on Thursday February twenty seventh search for into America. Wherever you're listening right now and subscribe hybrid. When it's Chris Matthews this week on my podcast so you want to be president. I talk with Pulitzer Prize. Winning historian Jon Meacham and former Merlin Congresswoman Donna Edwards about winning campaigns. That make on the spot calls that put candidates on the right side of history search for say a wannabe president. Wherever you're listening.
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"It is official. Oh President Donald Trump has been impeached by the House of Representatives and faces a trial in the Senate. We've witnessed in-incredibly historic moment. So what does it mean for us for our our politics in four our country will the politics of impeachment change. What can the lessons of past impeachments teach us about the future of this process? I answer these questions and more on article the two inside impeachment search now wherever you're listening and subscribe. Thanks for listening. Did you ever have any communications with the Council of the President J. J. secular during the time that you were involved in this several conversations one in particular which I would have to refresh my memory by looking. Got My text messages with him. But we had to do with I think it was victorians visa or something to do with. Ukraine was busy at the time and basically told told me that the J. was aware of everything that he brought him up to speed and that I could call him and he was on top by that did he mean that Mister Sekula was aware of this effort to try hi to get Ukraine to announce investigations. Actually one of the things I think was the best quote ever was Mr Sutherland said everybody was the loop and that everybody was. I don't believe though I know they were on the I was witness to conversations and go in between them and everybody was in the little. Everybody didn't agree with the loop. I mean Jay seculow didn't agree with what really was doing but he knew what he was. How do you know that? He didn't agree with it because I heard them talk about what was his objection. He didn't want to be involved in the crane stuff he. You don't know what his you'd have to ask him. What his but my feeling from the conversations and watching the.
"maddow" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"The show weeknights at nine eastern on. MSNBC tonight we will present part two of my interview with left Parnis. Now as I said before the first part of the interview last night and I want to reiterate now Mr Partners is under federal indictment. He was one of four defendants charged in early October. With multiple felonies related to an alleged scheme to funnel four and otherwise illegal donations to various Republican publican candidates and campaigns including more than three hundred thousand dollars in allegedly illegal donation to the main super pacs. Supporting the president's reelection. Mr Parnell is under indictment. He says he would like to cooperate with the impeachment investigators. He says he would also like to cooperate. Operate with the federal prosecutors who have charged him in the southern district of New York but he is right now out on bond awaiting trial and I will just mention at the outset that I am cognizant of the fact that we are presenting the second part of this interview tonight rather than just diving right right into some of the other momentous and historic news of today including the start today of the Senate trial of President Trump today marks only the third third time in US history that an American president has faced an impeachment trial in the Senate and it was a solemn beginning today the administering of the oath to the chief the justice of the Supreme Court the administering the oath to all senators all of the senators individually signing their names to the oath one by one in alphabetical order. Solemn thing it's a sobering thing this is a big deal and it is worse worth you know. Massive headlines is that it's getting all over the country it is absolutely worth marking this day in history. It is also worth noting that the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office today today issued a ruling that it was illegal for president trump to withhold aid to Ukraine as part of this scheme that what he did there was against the law all for that to be arriving today that ruling from the Government Accountability Office on the day that the Senate impeachment trial starts and this is all a big deal but it's also becoming clear that what happens next in the impeachment of president trump in this senate trial may depend in part on the additional evidence and witnesses who are still coming forward as the Ukraine scheme is coming more fully to light and so onward. Here's part two all right. One of the main questions. A lot of different people have asked I myself. uh-huh have have asked and have wondered main question asked about Mr Parnassus decision to give this first. Public interview is why why he would speak out publicly while he's out on bond awaiting trial right. That is atypical behavior to say. The least for a federal criminal defendant particularly particularly one who has a sentient lawyer. I mean the common wisdom is that public remarks and remarks to the media could really only disadvantage a defendant in his or her dealings with federal prosecutors. Right if you speak out publicly if you speak to the media it's GonNa hurt your criminal case that is the common wisdom for all federal defendants and all kinds of criminal mental trials. So why Mr Parnasse doing well. In this case Mr says that he has a significant in fear of the Justice Department and specifically he has significant fear of attorney. General William Bar for him. That is not reason to be quiet. That is part of the reason why he's making his case now to the public. My understanding spending a longtime with Mr Parnasse. Doing this interview view is that he believes he's safer putting this stuff out in the public sphere. Then he is keeping his mouth shut while the Justice Department knows what he was involved in and they know what he knows and they have his fate in their hands. My only objective is there. Get the truth out. Because I'd never thought I did. I was doing anything wrong. I still you know I. I regret certain things that I did. Because like you know hurting passenger and you know 'cause that was not something uptick but it was part of. It's like when you're in a war. You think like casualties and stuff like that. It's it's it's bad to say but it was it was I keep saying it was like you know being being in the call I mean and when they say organized Kinda I don't think trump was like org. I think he's like a cult leader the braid now the scary part. And that's what I keep mentioning and people don't understand Stand there's there's a lot of Republicans that would go against him. The only reason if you take a look and you know very well because you've been following the difference between white trump is so a powerful now and he wasn't as powerful and sixteen and seventeen. He became the powerful when he got William Bar. People are scared and my scare. Yes because I think more scared of our Justice Department than of these criminals right now because the scariest part is getting locked than some room and get treated as an animal. When did nothing wrong or or when you're not you know and that's the tool? They're using I mean I mean just because they're trying to scare into not talking and doing what God's help with my my moyer next to me that I know we'll go back for me no matter what would the truth and I'm taking the chance. My wife is scared my kids in there. He says they're trying to scare me into not talking. King Mr Par is referencing. Something specific. Actually that I asked him about in more detail and different part of the interview that I'm GonNa show you just a moment But what Mr describes there as a sort of what he says is is a cultish environment him saying getting out of that cultish environment around the president resident now makes him regret some of his actions that thing that he saying about it being like a cult that he regrets his behavior there that applies as well to the central claim at the heart of the impeachment scandal. which was this concerted effort? That Mister Peres was involved in to accuse former vice president Joe Biden of wrongdoing doing and to get Ukraine to announce investigations of Vice President Biden in terms of the information. The allegations against Vice President Biden. Mr Shokhin mix allegations against Mr Biden. Mr Lukashenko also makes allegations against Mr Biden. Do you believe that those allegations were true. When we were dealing with? When I was in the middle of the thick of things I think I was kind of in? I keep saying it's like a cultish environment of being around president trump because like I've been in DC for two years. I've never left the trump hotel type of situation so I truly believed seeing in different information that was handed to us at that time. That Joe Biden was doing something illegal Not so much hunter Biden but more Joe Biden but after are analyzing all the evidence and sitting back and release. What's a call understanding what's going on? I don't think I don't think vice-president buying anything wrong. I think he he was protecting our country and getting rid of probably a crooked. The Attorney General and people use this to their advantage. A lot of rich people in Ukraine have their agenda and they use US here for their own political stuff so I think this is was a big one in terms of material that was handed over to intelligence on March Twenty Second Mr Lutsenko texts shoe in Russia and and there's a translation Asian that's provided by the committee. Says it's just that if you don't make a decision about Madam you are bringing into question all my allegations including about be. So when he says Madam is he talking about Besser investor group and when he says all allegations including about be about reach Mumbai Buy Yes okay. And it's very small or Biden. I guess it could be either. It was always buy them. Barista was just I mean nobody cares about Berea. S'mores Jeff Ski. It was The concern was biting them. Hunter by in that text message to you is Mr Sankoh saying in effect. Listen if you want me to make these despite allegations you're going to have to get rid of this ambassador. Absolutely was he threatening that. If you didn't get rid of the ambassador. He might withdraw his allegations. He actually drew. He withdrew within several times. He wanted ambassador IANOVICH ousted for his own career reasons. He had clashed with her in her anticorruption efforts. That head butted up against it's ten. Let's Cinco and Shokhin both had an interest in getting rid of US ambassador. Maria von Vich. And it's funny because they both don't like each other the Sean Can Hayslett go. And even though I used to be his underling but They say listen. It's it's a different environment over there in. Its unless you live unless you do business there unless you on the visit there and understand that Bribery and it's just a way of life. I mean regular people at the store do it. They'll bribe the butcher together. Better meet piece of meat and it's normal or get better seats at the concert. So it's like away of life over there so the way the structures up and that's why everybody's hoping Zilenski changes it but I don't know how much he could change with one. Says like there's already embedded Bennett. This was Where once you become in America? It's like you become a politician to serve your country not to make money because you can make money in Ukraine. It's the opposite view. Some of these people pay millions of dollars to get a seat as a politician so once they get there. So it's all about the money and it's all about about the power left Parnis a key fixer and figure in the effort to fit up Vice President Joe Biden with accusations of wrongdoing in Ukraine to force the government to announce investigations into Mr Biden to force out to the US ambassador. Marie Ivanovich who was in the way of that effort. Mr Mr Parnasse now apologizing to that. US Ambassador Ambassador Yvonna Vich we dot last night and as I just showed you Mr Parnasse also says he now now does not believe that Vice President Biden did anything wrong in Ukraine and that Vice Presidents Vice President Biden's actions there which Mr Parnasse helped try to turn into do a scandal in his words. Now he says Mr Biden's actions were taken to protect our country and get rid of a crooked attorney. General by confirming firming the nature of his own communications with that official he refers to as a crooked attorney general. Mr Partners also makes clear that the removal of ambassador avant was a demand from the key. Accusers that he and Mr Giuliani and the president and others have been using to make this this false case against Biden the accusers including boatload Cinco Shokhin Wanted Ivanovich Gone Looks Sankoh explicitly demanded to pardon us that the ambassador be removed or his allegations against Biden might be a risk shokhin and Lutsenko wanted Ambassador Ivanovich removed and left parties telling because they were corrupt and she was a force against corruption in Ukraine. And they wanted her out of their way to think about the collateral damage that was caused not only in our own country but around the world and in Ukraine by this scheme to aid the president's reelection effort McAfee pretty clear sense sense of what that might be in Ukraine when it comes to anti-corruption president trump alleged personal role in trying to remove ambassador. IANOVICH before she was ultimately recalled old. We're going to have more on that coming up this hour as well but we started four we get to that. There's there's one other piece of this that I want to foreground here. That isn't specifically weekly about President Trump. It's about another senior. Member of the trump administration who love says stepped in to play a role in the Ukraine scheme at a very key moment the new president of Ukraine elected on this anti-corruption platform right engaged in ongoing war with Russia he's inaugurated in May as the new leader of Ukraine. Heat somewhat desperately needs a show of support strong show of support from the United States government. That's key to the US. Ah the Ukraine in terms of its fight with Russia among other things on the eve of Zelenskaja's inauguration Mr Parthenis told me and the portion of the interview. We played yesterday okay that he was directed by Rudy Giuliani with spoken to president trump about it. He was directed to really turn up the pressure on Ukraine to demand to the Ukrainian government. That's unless they announced Abidin investigation the Ukrainian government would lose not only all US military aid lose all the US aid and vice. President Pence would not come to the inauguration of the new president. Vice President Pence has plans to attend the inauguration. At that point were in full swing..
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"The Orange Insurance Company so Lindsey Graham said he wants rudy detect if I before the Senate Judiciary Committee and that he plans to ask his Republican Senate colleagues to sign a letter stating that they don't believe the transcript of the phone call constitutes an impeachable offense what is what is Lindsay Graham up to here I mean first of all I don't think he's getting a ton of signatures on that letter because there's a number of Republican senators who are saying nothing right now which is probably a bad sign for Donald trump not a great sign but the the rudy thing makes me think they are gearing up to try to put on a show that is very last road and confusing and they're trying to drag everyone into process arguments just to you know here's my question is there something I don't understand about Rudy Giuliani and Lindsey Graham that anyone could come to the conclusion that an open hearing with Rudy Giuliani in which Democrats will have time to ask him questions will redound to the benefit of anyone associated or affiliated with Rudy Giuliani. I might be missing something crazy said that about the Corey Lewandowski hearing and then somehow that went off the rails but even that even that you know yeah it was a it was a it was a big mess but first of all I would say this in Corey Lewandowski is still a better witness than rigidly and there were still thirty tough minutes with the staff attorney which Corey Douse he confirmed a bunch of Shit that ended up being a a big part of the stories that followed I guess is there any way that Rudy Giuliani testifying before the Senate could be scoped to prevent Democrats from asking questions that would reveal all the inner workings of Rudy Giuliani's you've met mountainous you've met Senate Democrats but players we got you got some Congress listened to you go to you go to impeach him with the Congress you half I think that clearly trying to put on a show a Rudy Giuliani show. I mean there's a reason Guiliani goes on TV all the time it's not because he's great on TV because Rudy Giuliani on TV is a spectacle old makes it seem like something crazy's happening and I can't possibly understand this anymore look at that guy that that chaos itself is enough just that kinetic I am nonsense but in terms of asking Republican senators to agree in writing and pledge the way they will vote before the trial the trial I mean it's it for one thing the problem with Lindsey Graham doing that is it gives Republican senators there it gives hey there best way to avoid commenting on this right I think we've had one or two senators already say listen if this comes to the Senate I will effectively be a juror in this case so I don't want to say anything that might prejudge all say that unless Lindsey Graham tells them all to sign a pledge sang no matter what it is Mark Marco Rubio's like we signing that goes no we're not no I wouldn't sign it obviously I'm sure I know I'm not gonNA say but we're we're not okay is Rubio's line still that he doesn't think the president really asked a foreign country for help with Biden thinks it's a joke thinks it's a joke China peace he said he thought so what CNN reported that actually one of the things in the vault is that trump didn't just do this on the South Lawn he did it in private in a conversation with president she doesn't that take away it was a joke no not even that report the next day trump tweeted I I asked China to investigate not because of tics because of corruption so he he's like Hey Mirko in case you're mistaken I was not kidding Syria none of you are familiar enough with the on guard stylings of Andy Kaufman This is a long term kind of peace it's a bit that's just knowing okay all right what are the Democrats options now that the White House is all in on obstructing everything in Congress what are the legal options and then what is a good political strategy can they make the impeachment hearings successful with the trump administration completely obstructing congress what are their options one option they have is that they could just impeach him just call it a day I mean you don't yes the obstruction stuff should arguably be an article of impeachment it sounds like they're building quite a case they're they're also about to get all of the or a bunch of the stuff that was collected during the muller investing Asian that goes toward obstruction things like asking Komi to interfere with the Justice Department on the Flynn investigations that could all be added there but even if they don't WanNa touch the obstruction stuff they can impeach him right away just on the asking for foreign interference stuff the substantive matter that sparked the proceedings in the first place they can just do that one they want you can go to court right that's going to take a long time go to court to try to compel com CA Yuckiness to compel the subpoenas I mean obviously goes this would probably end up at the Supreme Court if the White House fought this at the White House is going to say we're not going to cooperate with anything and then they they could sue to enforce the subpoenas I mean the sort of frustrates thing here is you know one of the arguments who always heard from people who are pro impeachment way earlier than now was that impeachment would make winning these battles easier faster would then force the I'm to come forward and like I think it was probably always the case that that was not true especially when when trump is guilty we've read the thing we know he's guilty like he's going to fight this thing and what about process the entire way so I think that shift is just going to proceed with what he has at a at a normal yeah it was interesting I saw shifted interview with I'm Greg Sargent the other day yesterday I think and he said that he believes he's like look if there's if if the courts no there's going to be a trial in the Senate I cannot imagine a in this land that won't give us the evidence we need to conduct the trial whether it's from Muller or whether it's from anywhere else seems to think that not only really get the evidence but he'll get it in a timely fashion for Senate impeachment barrel Howell is forcing that to happen right away with the molar stuff now right I mean it's it's moving the con the constitution says the House shall have the sole power of impeachment in the Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments Riley couldn't be more clear that it's the congressional prerogative they need to supply this evidence if your argument is we refuse to give you the information you need to hold impeachment proceedings it what's the purpose of having impeachment to begin with I feel like the thing that I'm that I feel like is potentially on the horizon that I'm really worried about and I don't know what to how to think about it is like reading that transcript from the barrel hearing this week and you know the one where she says wow you really are arguing something extreme here I mean they're arguing Watergate was argued rugs you're arguing that Watergate was wrongly decided that the material collected in that grand jury investigation should in have been given to the house for the purposes of impeachment case right yes and so to see how arguing that and the brave Justice Department lawyers saying yes your honor I don't think it's that extreme like it's just very awkward but it made me made me start thinking about the prospect that the Justice Department under William Bar as some of these things do go through court and there's a bunch of things that are already in court the Justice Department has been representing the President essentially as his personal lawyer all these things are taking aside on everything they're losing all of these cases and they'll all take awhile but they'll all eventually resolve and they'll resolve with court orders and under bill bar do we believe that the Justice Department might not comply with court orders natural actual constitutionalises N- it's a unless it is that true it's a constitution it's a constitutional crisis if we fail to remove trump right I mean these are the reason I think you pursue legal remedies juvenile crisis should resolve in favor of impeaching the person that's precipitated the constitutional right you know I is it constitutional crisis the constitutional crisis to me doesn't exist when Donald Trump flouts subpoena the constitutional crisis exists when Republicans in the Senate refused to obey their sort of constitutional responsibilities for the sake of party and failed to punish the president for his obvious is the crisis that's not I mean the definition of constitute a constitutional crisis would be the court's ruling against trump ignoring the congressional subpoena impeachment is a political decision I get what you're saying but it's not the worst crisis and the Congress won't act because they put party over their prerogatives as representatives of the legislative branch that to me is the ultimate crisis I think it's very very bad had it is a crisis if the president refuses to obey court orders but to me that is the moment we will have been that is the Rubicon to me I I I I think I'm GonNa tell me on this in that I think that when you have elected officials behaving badly in refusing to acknowledge their responsibilities as patriots and citizens that's bad but you solve that by voting them out and so you still have one other option to play if the Justice Department itself which is in charge of enforcing the law and prosecuting crimes refuses to acknowledge the authority of the United States court system I I honestly don't know what to do I mean Congress could impeach Bill Barr Their Congress could impede the president for overseeing an administration that is behaving this way and it's really bad if the Republicans decide that's not worth impeaching them on but there's there's no fix excuse there's no way to make the on the courts don't have an army at the courts don't have any way to get their way other than by having their authority respect this is like the Andrew Johnson impeachment Yeah I mean look I I think we're arguing over the semantics of the phrase constitutional crisis I agree that it is a terrible terrible dangerous thing away troops right that's that is their weakness the congress has the power of impeachment to enforce what happens in the car I mean it just think it's baked into the system that we might have an administration that fails to on with the courts do and may even fail to honor what the the Congress does and that's why we have this impeach powered exists for this very moment I just think that the thing that I worry about the most is the Justice Department the Justice Department bringing political prosecutions against the president's enemies in order to score political points for the president or to clear his enemies off the board I worry about the Justice apartment KYW bashing not only other forms of investigating the President or potential crimes by the president and other people in the administration but submarine so that nobody ever finds out about them I mean it is really lucky basically that we found out about the whistle blowers complain about the Ukraine call total because of the Inspector General of the intelligence community appointed. by trump who decided that he was going to do the right thing here despite the fact that he had been completely outmaneuvered he just bluntly threw himself on it and said I'm bringing this to Congress and I'm Gonna I mean the the that's the normal thing somebody should do it counts as heroism in this moment but had he not done that we never would have known about the complaint the whistle blower would have been in in severe danger it is a shocking realization the degree to which we have needed heroic acts signed out I was GonNa say my my surprises Shinzo now bill bar and that is my work because so far we've seen bill bar you know abuse all kinds of power to protect donald trump but we haven't seen as much of the prosecutor his enemies and going after the enemy the one who's doing that is Mike Pompeo with reopening the investigation at the State Department and that is something that I almost feel like I want to put that in its own folder and carry that so but that's that's a really big deal that they're doing that and the way they are pursuing it as best as I understand is that they're basically Blah doc balling all senior State Department officials who had any communications with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state by saying listen we've retroactively classified get your emails from that time as now looking to us like they're classified and therefore you've gotTa Security Ding against you and your record and you can never be employed in the State Department ever again no matter who's it is disgraceful like their retroactively classifying a bunch of emails that maybe could have been classified as confidential level as a way to punish these people meanwhile are US ambassador to the European Union and are like special representative for Ukraine and the ambassador are texting about fucking trump's phone calls foreign leaders military aides Ukraine like things the Russians would desperately want to know that should have been classified that at a minimum that business should be conducted on State Department.
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"Fulltime by finding qualified candidates for you I guess not since he's not really called trae hurry blow trae French trae hurry Blah right yeah that's the belief staffer and the one person that Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC or somehow working with Ukraine during the twenty six thousand election they create created and I don't know where it actually goes from there but it goes to is that they stole their own documents and use them to sabotage required until the the one investigation and it was the one to Hillary Clinton they are very very deep state is phenomenally bad there was little meddling there it's back to the like yeah you know where corrupt but your corrupt too yeah blends the and that's what they're really that's all they need just like trademark Putin exactly like the world is corrupt What's that remember when Tom Ridge rolled out a color coded terror threat system where the whole country all once had various threat level today's Orange Day to as a yellow day was What time that was that was a big thing to worry about the color coded him on the Homeland Security Yeah I mean we're all scared that al Qaeda was going to attack yeah but now in part because our government told us it was likely to happen but now Donald Trump Peres personally defeated every last isis fighters so we are safe government didn't bullets tune into a positive role but that's not actually true ooh good luck good plug anyway did you guys know that policy geniuses brand color.
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"It to you as a President I pay off my don't always have clips looked at the beginning but I saw those two this morning I was like these are very mad os read the transcript he did this is like stop that stop at we were talking about watching a program we love call the Rachel maddow show up before this for this for the day recording and we were we were noting that okay now this story breaks that it looks like tillerson may have been asked by trump to call DOJ to intercede in a specific investigation investigation he personally cares virtually none the thing about maybe all of it boiling down to if this is what he's doing on a semi regular basis think about all the calls all the interview mentions all the illegal ruminating and questions and wondering if you could get away with things that could pile up if the dam were to ever truly bursts I was saying because of the like whether trump did this at Rudy's behest or he did it for one right like what is trump give a shit about this guy for right like troubling gives us himself ray he does everything out of his own personal self interest so if he's that worried about getting off some guy who you know was laundering money with the Iranians what else is he doing her stuff that actually means something to imagine the kind of stuff right it's been pulling hey rex right now you're known as the secretary of state he got fired word while on the toilet why don't you go out being known as the only guy who left the White House and told the truth this is an interesting part of this because my speech the listener I'm sorry I just have to say I am sick of this shaming of Rex Tillerson for the crime of doing what we all do it's not his fault John Kelly calls him when he was on the John All right that's not why is rex in wise that embarrassing every single person in this room poops uh-huh stands in this conversation I'm going to not come down between you and this one just because it may implicate me in future crimes I think one of the things really interesting about this rex tillerson story coming out right now is that it happened in two thousand seventeen and it happened to rex in front of three other people and then it happened to John Kelly like he was like Tillerson took this to John Kelly according to Bloomberg News and said hey the president just me to do something illegal and illegal thing he asked me to do which is a crime in case you don't know what illegal means I'm not GonNa do that crime okay John and so that's a all of years ago now it's just come out why is that come out now presumably because in the impeachment inquiry were starting to shake loose information about the president's avert that Friday night late night Washington Post story with all of those quotes about the president on the phone with foreign leaders including him telling Theresa May that Russia was behind the scruples attempted assassination creepy and all queasy crazy all of this craigslist ad why is that coming out now it's coming because witnesses are coming forward transcripts are being released I doubt positions are being taken the president's behavior is being described it is shaking either the conscience or the self preservation instincts of people who know stuff will this is why I think this thing could be bigger than I even imagined right because I thought you know if we ever do get around to impeaching him Republicans senator going to protect them no matter what it's GonNa happen before the year's over and then by you know June of two thousand twenty we're all going to have forgotten about the impeachment right but if it was just Ukraine and they rushed a really quick vote on it and that was that that'd be one thing and they tried to obstruct everything else but hearing about this Bloomberg Story About Tillerson and all the other stuff that's coming out if this plays out so that all of these people keep coming forward and there are new stories and new developments over and over again for the next couple of months I think it really could build something very very bad why do we know for a good just found out about the fact that they move we just found out from the whistleblower that they moved the records of his problematic for an leader calls into the standalone covert action server and then immediately we started getting all this information about what all those calls like I would like to visit that vault it's not great when you fire someone like Rex Tillerson and you humiliate him or you Rick Perry just happens to leave the administration after we all just read a transcript where the president commits a crime by trading foreign assistance for dirt on his political rival and then trump immediately blames Rick Perry like these are not people who are going to go to the mattresses for you and not tell their stories if they're called noon impeachment agree Rachel. Are You surprised I'm surprised we talked a lot about what impeachment might unlock that that that was our was our kind of argument right if we do this we pursue this impeachment it'll it'll give more power to Congress and I'll be able to get more out of the administration but I I did not believe it would be this transformative have you been surprised by just how much shaken loosen just roughly what two and a half three weeks yes is the pace of it is remarkable and because we're getting all this information about stuff that happened previously it does sort of make you feel like it was like swelling and ready to burst and then somebody finally took the first pinprick there and it's all starting to come out and so I don't know again like I don't know how many stories there are like this REX Tillerson but I do know that Rex Tillerson in December told Bob Schieffer that it was multiple times that the president had asked him to do something illegal. I don't know if this is one of those if there's others I don't know how much rex tillerson is talking I don't know how much Rick Perry's GonNa talk once he leaves I don't know how much jeopardy of their former trump administration officials in luding cabinet officials feel like they might be in from this process I mean that's why I think the pompeo thing and the bar thing are both really interesting too because one thing to talk about their bad act listen to see them defending the president I mean to see pompeo talking about the Kurds like they don't deserve our alliance anymore I mean it just it's it's incredible but do they fear for themselves in terms of potential prosecution or impeachment or some other sort of you know shaming or Contra or or consequence that might of eight their own behavior other than just even be able to look at themselves in the mirror and that's an empirical question that I don't know what the Democrats are GONNA do on Cabinet officials it's interesting with pompeo specific weekly forget the high threshold of worrying about his criminal liability he's always someone like a Nikki Haley who believed he could escape with his credibility the intact and it seems as though he's I don't know if he's let go of that dream or if he is unaware that that dream is slowly slipping hager's Pompeii on payoff thinks he's going to be president YEP and I guess that's why he wants to he wants to keep the the trump based quote George H W Bush pompeo was the benefit t of the Software tree of low expectations like he was the only person you could be in complete sentences on a Sunday show it was not seen as like a crazy ideologue like John Bolton but then Pompeo's problem now is is when you learn that Gordon Sunland is the one negotiating with Ukraine and you dig into that for thirty seconds and you realize that he only got that job the US ambassador the European Union because he cut a million dollar check to Donald Trump's inauguration using four anonymous LLC's you start to wonder and then you do some googling and you realize that Ukraine not in the EU so why is this fucking guy banging around negotiating like military aid to them Pompeo's got to worry about the dependence of the layer right below him I also think the Democrats should rope in bill bar into these impeachment proceedings impossibly impeach him as well because what bill bars doing flying around the world meeting with all kinds of foreign officials to basically proved uh-huh bunch of right wing conspiracy theories by also investigating our own intelligence agencies are on law enforcement just so he can basically re backtrack to try to prove the conspiracy theory or multiple conspiracy theories is crazy and people should I just feel like we need the truth about that people should know what the Attorney General Independent Investors John is a respected prosecutor who would never allow for any political pressure I also worry about criminal referrals coming for that too like it's it's you know we can say that he's running around doing is like Carmen Sandiego investigation there has gone all around the world but you know when they come up with criminal referrals at the end the middle of an election it's going to be very using the Justice Department for stuff like that is the end and we're getting there was also we already we already know that when the whistle blowers complaint ends up at the DOJ They're like our new stuff in a bag now did anyone watch the fifty one minute I'm back video that trump's campaign manager tweeted out that sort of gets at the root of what they think the conspiracy DNC consultant is the one who basically hatched the Russia conspiracy Yup I had a lot of free time on Saturday it is Glenn Glenn Beck was looks like coked up Colonel Sanders and he needs not one but two gigantic chalkboards to walk you through this and he's like grabbing photos of faces and bring them from one chalkboard to another and slapping them down it's Kinda worth five minutes of your time I love Glenn Beck I've always loved Glenn Beck Feeder he's back into the game that I mesmerize back here is like I could get fifty minutes of Glenn Beck minutes well the thing about Glenn is when he was trying to be the principal conservative he had to fire like a fifth of his staff at staff the blaze so now so but the is the idea either Mr back or the implication of was it per scowl who who tweeted it and and do we think what bar in Durham is doing is not just trying to rope Ukraine into some sort of blame for two thousand sixteen election interference specifically aren't they to make it so that Russia didn't do it so that the Kremlin didn't run an op on our two thousand sixteen election the IRA in the Internet research agency that didn't happen the DNC hack was not them and they were blamed by somebody with a grudge against them no they were they were framed by the barely stable country they invaded listen to I screw over manafort courses a criminal he said they set him up in an installed him right yeah exactly they they exposed Paul Manafort's crimes which I guess is Hillary Clinton's nominating convention and her campaign in order to make Russia look bad so that trump would be it did and Russia would look back that's the outcomes winning trump winning just ruins all these conspiracy theories all these people had all this stuff they're trying to take down trump but they all decided to be had making Hillary Clinton president as evidenced by our nightmares recurrent but is this part of the thesis that that Hillary was orchestrating a campaign that would result on purpose in her losing because that is the real knife in the back to the that is that is some some of the conspiracies are that the more the lower level conspiracies are just you know yeah Russia meddled in the election an and maybe the trump campaign incursion welcomed it but the Democrats working with Ukraine to pods America's brought to you by policy genius it's October the month of 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"Take welcome to pods America I'm John Fabra Oh Munich's Tommy Detour I'm John Lovett on today's pod we are thrilled to finally have instead CEO the host of the Rachel maddow show on MSNBC and the author of the new book blowout which we're GonNa talk about a little later Rachel maddow's here guys citing its very exciting to be here I can't believe this is real and it's really happening of set you imagine in your mind when you're dreaming some sort of Dystopia and future find yourself with people you recognize talking I mean this is what's wrong with our studios and nothing's wrong it's perfect dystopia about it now it's dystopia future I imagined this often which I'm sitting here talking with three smart guys I admire and that I completely lose the power of speech and make a complete idiot out of myself that's not possible although I guess we'll find out We we have a lot of impeachment in twenty twenty news to cover tonight but a few housekeeping notes Tommy tell us about this week's 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evening White House Counsel Pats at Bologna announcing an eight page screed that president trump is directing his administration into obstruct Congress's impeachment inquiry they will refuse to comply with any and all subpoenas for testimony and documents which is against the law there were few pretty angry responses from members of Congress with regard to this kind of obstruction and I do think we have a few clips article three of impeachment against Richard Nixon the article was based on the idea that Richard Nixon as president failed to comply with subpoenas of Congress Congress was going through a sober site function to provide oversight of the president when asked for Information Richard Nixon chose not to comply and the Congress back in that time said you're taking away from us you're becoming the judge and jury it is not your job to tell us what we need it is your job to comply with the things we need to provide oversight over you the day Richard Nixon failed answer that subpoena is the day that he was subject impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress and he became the judge and jury and I think we have I think we have one more when the principal leader so eloquently stated now he's really good anti Graham the notion that you can withhold information and documents from Congress no matter whether you're the party in power or not in power is wrong respect for the rule of law must mean something irrespective of the vicissitudes a political cycle the big word do you guys remember when I was coming to sit down here for the first time I said I don't know if you have interference issues is it okay if I have my phone with me because I have a couple of things that the reason I wanted to have my phone with me because I saved that clip I wanted we're GONNA use those two gentlemen step up our game so obviously that was trump's good pal graham in his brand new lawyer Trey Goudy what do you make of the White House's rationale for this decision to obstruct which is basically the impeachment inquiry is illegitimate and unconstitutional because House Democrats haven't taken a formal vote to launch the inquiry and there's a whole bunch of complaints about they haven't provided the president of due process well it's interesting to me as a matter of political strategy because they're saying impeach this impeachment doesn't exist this impeachment is is unconstitutional which is amazing because impeachments literally the constitution they're weirdly it's the same word even after all this time so it's it's it's obviously an out their argument but to see typically say this impeachment isn't real unless you do ex and then ex is a totally doable thing I mean like answering Melissa could hold a vote in the House and all the Democrats could vote unanimously for impeachment plus Justin Amash right or whoever and even even if they needed a few the Democrats to vote no or absent or be washing their hair that day or something they could still afford to do it because they have plenty of Democrats on the record in favor of impeachment so I don't think he should do it because I don't think she should let trump dictate what she does but if that's the threshold that's the only thing that would make this a real impeachment way they could have that tomorrow it seems like an odd thing for them to set the product Super Rod I mean do we think that it's interesting the your explanation is that Pelosi wouldn't let trump dictate what she does a good point I wonder if they should do it just to call their bluff like I guess I'm wondering that I'm also wondering why Pelosi is not hasn't done it so far I to me it might be because there's a couple members still on the fence I it's interesting I think there's two things one with every passing day impeachment votes get easier for Democrats and harder for Republicans and I don't think that's lost on anyone making this argument the Second as of this is you're starting to see rumblings of demands that Republicans get subpoena power as part of this and and I'm sorry I'm sorry but until you have proven yourselves responsible enough for subpoena power last time you had last time last time you promise so you would not eat that ice cream sandwich until after dinner and it was gone so you know it's funny we'll talk about it as well but Lindsey Graham suggesting rudy come to the Senate the republic a trump calling for this vote in the House I find myself thinking I don't see what the problem is but I'm not evil so I'm not able to totally wrap my head around all the possibilities I also think that Nancy Pelosi has a really good read on how to play trump yes I mean I don't think he does everything right and I don't think that she's you know like a master of the house in a way that is too hard for us to understand but I do often feel like she knows how to get his goat and she knows what not to rise to and so her not wanting to take this vote is obviously within her power I mean the house gets to decide its own else and if their rules are it's impeachment when we say it's an impeachment and not it's not dependent on whether we take a whole vote then that's within her power but I'm I guess that's why to me the more interesting thing is not policies during but why this crazy letter from pat simple oni set that as such an important threshold as if that is something that can never happen yeah I read this this letter as just a flailing political statement I don't think that the White House counsel's office touches thing I think dime store Peggy Noonan Stephen Miller probably wrote the this crazy bullshit because that's what they do with that guy on the facts like I Marco Rubio's former counsel that Paragon of virtue said the letter was directed assault on the legitimacy of Congress's oversight power so that's what Republicans think about this letter but re regarding their specific concerns like one I believe the vote during Nixon's impeachment came months and months from now right so like the argument that this needs to happen first before they're gathering the vaccine with the house is doing is preparing an indictment and then the in the Senate the idea that the the need to vote immediately is ridiculous and also this subpoena ish power issue is a bit of a red herring because my understanding is in previous ince's yes you can give the minority party subpoena power but the full committee then votes on it so the the majority has a defacto veto on minority party subpoenas anyway it's like sure like you were saying earlier set up these very easy to meet the standards for the Democrats that we can either match or not but I think you're right that ultimately Pelosi should dictate this based on her own political instincts and not based on whatever trump is the highest authority that gets to decide what happens here no matter what the White House right so the White House sort of gave up the game on this because they held a briefing with reporters after this letter came out and one reporters like okay well what would it take for the White House is to change its mind and actually cooperate and the senior administration officials said a full halt to all subpoenas requests for testimony for documents everything basically they're saying their condition for cooperating in an impeachment inquiry is to end it makes sense and so I guess why do we think that trump chose this strategy of obstructing congress like what is the political strategy behind the White House's decision to say we are going to war we're going to pretend this is unconstitutional and we're just GONNA fight guilty we did he might as well be video of him shooting someone I think I think it doesn't have to be more complicated than what we know plus what we don't is far worse than what we know plus blocking the investigation yeah right they think that going down for obstruction is well then it's just another process crime we can get past that and they're most afraid of is the truth coming out but the the process crime here however that gets adjudicated even if they left all the obstruction out the crowd mm-hmm of contacting another government asking for help against a political opponent done and dusted they're not gonNA get out we are that's already done already confessed to the gave us the evidence it's done president trump and did it again on TV in case we missed it the first time so that part the idea that they're trying to constrain the so that he only gets done for obstruction and offer some other thing or that they're trying to fight that one article of impeachment because that one worries them more than the other one that's a sure bet I mean dude it's a sure bet I don't I don't think there is any strategy here I think this is why Komo I think.
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"Maddow show it's just it is what happened how how how these last few days been for you how you slept as slipped a little bit a not much got about an hour on the plane ride home got a couple of hours last night but 'em i think i'm just on such a high i can't sleep journaling 'em the nerves the just all of it it's it's such an exciting moment for us right now so how do you do you all have like a plan as a group about how you deal with if the platform that you have now the celebration the the way you're going to cope with the fame any attention everything you guys talk about that in advancers everybody deals at their own way we do and we don't 'em i think that we have such a close group and were around each other so much conversations are happening all the timer certainly much more organized and together this time around then we were last time around in a we will get into mediation obviously after the world cup but i think at this moment everyone is like is happening and we certainly know how take advantage of this sudden moments in terms of your leadership on the team 'em you've now you're the only woman to have ever started in three world cup finals upset right now i think that's the thing yes i mean you're obviously team captain veteran you just turned thirty four people are talking about you not only for you're impact on the game before the longevity of your impact on the game where do you feel like you are in terms of your career definitely the at the later stages as opposed to at the beginning stage 'em i just turned thirty four 'em a couple of days before the final actually so i mean i'm pretty realistic about that i wanna keep playing on i don't have any plans to retire right now but 'em i'm still hurting from the game so i feel feel like is catching me a little bit more than eight to one of the reasons that i feel like your career is over national interest not just for you isn't athlete prefer using american is because over the years i feel like watching you just there's a fan i feel like you have become more and more comfortable and more and more articulate in terms of using the platform that you've got to say what you think oughta be happening in the world um you see more calm more capable more eloquent than ever and it seems like that gets better over time and so that makes me want you do this forever i mean obviously we do the numbers of fan but i also feel like you you 'em you're really good at talking when you need to talk and saying things that need to be said i wonder how deliberately you've approach that or if it's just a process of mature i think a little bit of both 'em i try to be as educated as i can i think that helps when you get in front of the camera and you're in a moment and you're like what the hell am i supposed to say 'em so i try to keep up with things watch racial matters show our skeet myself woke 'em and i think obviously a lot of it comes 'em just from i got i'm from my heart on on quite off the cuff but i'm also very thoughtful and understand and take a lot of pride in and take her seriously the platform that we have an understanding 'em you know where my voice goes when i say things and trying to use those things were good and trying to challenge people and constantly bring the conversation and make people think and you know constantly reevaluate where we are in the world are we doing enough are we get enough 'em can we be better and i think the answer to those questions is always yes so i feel like for me it's i feel a responsibility they do this like i'm i'm privileged to be a famous person in to be on this team and to be who i am and if i just stay silent seems awfully selfish one of the things that i felt again just as a fan and when the president's started criticizing you and attacking you is that i was mad at him because i felt like he was going to rattle you when you need to be very focused on site for the for the country you.