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"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"With trained Marxist and organization by the way that's billions and billions of dollars in has not contributed to the black community at all. You're going to stand with them, but you're not going to stand with a man who has been doing ministry for over fifty years faithfully. What The world loves you. And you're hating your brother this. As you were reading that this just dawned on me and this speaks of the character of John MacArthur. That even today. Those who turned had who have their backs on him? If they got in some kind of trouble for something related to the truth of scripture even today. John MacArthur would stand with them. You're right there. He would be right there. Regardless of the fact that they abandon him, he would come along right beside them and that's a good point for all of us by the way for the that. That's a good bro. Good call out because that's a good example for all of us. That speaks to first Peter to write that speaks to Christ on the cross. Forgive them for they know not what they do. You know look if you've got somebody who wrong you that's in the household of faith, your responsibility is to forgive them. To. Not hold it over them to not keep a record of wrongs. I Corinthians Thirteen says. So. So you also are called to do that. You forgive as crisis forgiven you and I and I have no doubt. I have no doubt that that. that. John has and would do that and that's again a great example for all of us and look I, know get fired up I do. But but but yeah, I I mean it's it's it's a zeal for the truth. It's zeal for the glory of the Lord. It's zeal for scripture its zeal for his house and but man, that's that's a great call out Bro that's. So. As we as we start wrapping up. We have we've pulled a lot of punches today. Just. In this show, we've pulled a lot of punches but. A lot of them are.
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"Jesus crisis regularly scheduled programing. Absolutely, not absolutely not look. It. Kind of ride on the coattails of the elder conversation. People Damore. Tisby people like Dr John MacArthur. So so here's here's how. All of us should identify. As far as where our identity is. Post re-generation. Right, we've being reformed. We believe and know that scripture teaches regeneration proceeds faith. So. After generation our identity is as follows. One. Child. That's it. You are in Christ he is in you that who you identify with first. Second in the Kingdom of God. Amongst the family, of God, the believers, the church, the bride of Christ, which by the way. There is no Jew gentile and slave free male female All are in Christ Christ is in all K two three. As A. Your husband as a woman, you're a wife. Four if you're A. Parent. There's where that is. Then five. Is Not even your ethnicity. I don't even know what five would be to be honest but you see what I'm getting out here it to for for someone who professes to be a child of God. and. Then also professes I am not saying possesses I'm saying professes. To Be a minister of the Gospel. And to continue. To throw this nonsense out. It just gotTa stop man it's just I mean it doesn't listen. He doesn't listen to a false gospel. No, it's a false gospel. It's it's creating division. I was doing some preparing today for I'm just starting to do some training for our company and and one of the things that when you look up the word integrity, one of the synonyms for integrity is unity. So ultimately what he's doing. Is dismantling the integrity of the church. And the Kingdom of God by continuing to spew this this false. Gospel. This anti Christ narrative you know what I noticed. 'cause you sent me this the other day yesterday I think it was and and we had just been talking what maybe last week about how it seems like kind of the racial tension is starting to die down because everyone's focusing on masks and government and things like that will. You know what I think. He noticed it too and he going you know we need to bring the race thing back need to bring the race thing back we gotta keep you know we we we we gotTa Keep Forefront No preach the gospel you know. Let's go back to the elder thing this too. If you're an elder and you hold Jakarta's you probably don't need to be an elder anymore. because. There's no way that you can believe this garbage and still be a faithful minister in Christ's Church and rightly divide his word and rightly shepherd the flock of Christ. I was. Strong. I mean I, I wouldn't. Let's put it this way. But let let me because I I've said this to you offline to so I'll say publicly. I have serious concerns with anyone who would defend your Martine Eric Mason right now..
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"To go on your. abortion mills to stay open liquor stores to stay open I mean etc etc etc but but you're telling. The one you're people cooped up. People have no hope people are depressed more suicides are happening than ever. In who has the the one message of hope? Is The church? The church and then the government's trying to, no, you can't meet indoors. Well, we'll come on guys why Dr MacArthur well, why can't you guys just meet outside? because. Because number one, the government has no authority to be able to to say that. Number two if you look at the facts of what happened with Kobe. Nineteen. based. I'm not minimizing anyone because I've been affected by personally I'm not minimizing the effects of anyone who please hear me if you have been affected by cove nineteen or you know somebody who has died from covid nineteen, my heart goes out to you. I mean we lost Herman Cain right had she has to meet her McCain years ago Super Nice Guy. You know. But when you look at the effects and you look at the numbers. of WHO's dying of what? God the infection rate super high, but the survival rates even higher. So. No. Come on. You gotTA stop because up in the sermon the doctor MacArthur gave that next Sunday, he specifically prayed for governor newsom in the authorities. So No, it's what I find really crazy and we talked about this earlier was that. The the comments have people have left under that article or the conversations that we've had about grace. Meeting. Comes from people that. Didn't actually listen to that sermon 'cause moving in that sermon Dr MacArthur addressed all this and he addressed why their meals and he even he actually said you know. He was for the for a while during the whole quarantine thing he was preaching to an empty room only his. And then little by little, the people started showing US start up their own. On their own. And then. Why? Because people understand that they need that fellowship in the time that we're in? We were created for community. We that's how we were made. We were created to do life with people. In, scripture speaks to that love your neighbor. Scripture speaks to the action that you take and how you do that. So when we when we as a society HAVE BEEN COOPED UP Since the beginning of.
Hiroshima survivors worry that world will forget
"Exactly 15 minutes past eight in the morning on August 6th, 1945 Japanese time at the moment when the atomic bomb flashed above Hiroshi MMA Miss Yoshiko Sasaki, a clerk in the personnel department of the East Asia, 10 Works had just sat down at her place in the plant office and was turning her head to speak to the girl at the next desk. That rather ordinary sentence is the opening to the extraordinary August 1946 New Yorker article titled Oshima. It was published a year after the United States dropped the first nuclear bomb on that city, a year in which the U. S government had gone to great lengths to conceal the human devastation caused And to depict the bomb as a conventional humane weapon. The writer of the Peace John Hursey, uncovered a very different story reporting on the ground in Japan, author and journalist Leslie Bloome chronicles foresees work and the reaction to it in her new book, Fallout. She joins me now from Los Angeles. Leslie Bloome. Welcome. Thank you. Start with Who? John Hursey Wass and how he came to be the one to tell this story. Oh, John. Her see was a young World War two correspondent who had covered action in different theaters throughout the war for Time magazine. And like many war correspondents, then he was pretty supportive of the U. S military. And he even wrote an almost overly complimentary wartime bio of General Douglas MacArthur and That the U. S military knew him entrusted him would be an important factor in my story and how he eventually got his story about Hiroshi MMA, and I don't want to give away too much. But I will say that how he got in was by being the perfect Trojan horse reporter, The perfect Trojan horse reporter. You've hooked us where we're intrigued when I got there. He didn't report this out as a war correspondent. He focused very much on ordinary people on he picked six of them. Why did he want to tell the story in that way? Well, I mean, the fact of the matter is is that the bombing of Hiroshima was widely reported when it happened, and it was reported as a very big end of days. Story mean there were pictures of the mushroom clouds that were released in pictures, the landscape devastation. But there were no pictures that were released or no stories that were released about the human toll that it happened on the ground there, and the government was really going to enormous lengths to cover up the reality of theater. Tomic aftermath in Hiroshima, Nagasaki They were very concerned with as the former secretary of war, put it, not being seen as having outdone, Hitler and atrocities. So her C and his editors at the New Yorker magazine became determined to tell the story from the point of view of survivors. You know, these are among the on ly humans who have ever experience what it's like to be on the receiving end of nuclear attack. He ultimately picked a widow with young kids, a young female clerk to medics, a priest and a minister with with a young family, and his idea was to create a sense of empathy. In his readers with these individuals, because, after all, not everybody could understand the physics of how the bombs works or visualized. You know, an all out nuclear attack that anyone could relate to being a mother or a father or colleague or doctor who's going about their everyday business. One catastrophe strikes I wonder if you would give us a sense of just one telling story of what he did find when he was there What it was that so shocked American readers who had no idea what was unfolding in Japan. One story that particularly resonated with him. He interviewed a young female clerk who was in her company when the bomb was detonated. This's the clerk I mentioned in the intro exactly one of the most famous introductions in journalistic history, and when the bomb exploded over her factory bookshelves fell upon her, and she was nearly crushed to death by books. And he thought How ironic it was to have somebody nearly crushed by books within the first moments of the atomic age, and literally when he was leaving here, Oshima and standing on the surprisingly intact train station platform, he thought that he was going to have to write about that line. And that's one of the incidents that most resonated with readers. So August 1946 The New Yorker publishes. What was the reaction? Both in the United States and around the world to this story. Well in her sees own words. The reaction was quote explosive mean, I try not to use that word in my book for obvious reasons. But he did, And the article was simply titled here, Oshima, and it comprised nearly the entire contents of the August 31st 1946 issue of The New Yorker. It's sold out immediately. You're even black market copies of it going for, you know, astronomical sums. It was syndicated in its entirety, and this is a 30,000 word story in newspapers across the country and around the world. And editors and reporters and readers were enraged. They were horrified by the testimonies in her sees here, Oshima, and they also began demanding to know what else was the U. S government withholding from the US public And then, when President Truman was asked by a reporter if he had personally read it, he retorted. I never read the New York ER. It just makes me bad. But the fact is, is that the government had been put very much on the defensive. That said, You know, they didn't want to look like they were on the defensive, but they were and they had to scramble to try to reclaim the narrative.
Activists uphold John Lewis' legacy to fight for voting rights
"Imagery of these past few days comes close close to the honor John. Lewis deserved in life as was said over this past weekend this time they saluted the man who was almost killed at the hands of police this time, his final crossing of the bridge that may soon bear his name. was on rose pedals John Lewis witnessed his share of history during his time here on earth, and now in death he becomes the first ever black elected official to lie in state at the US Capitol. We welcome to the broadcast tonight. Nicole Hannah Jones, correspondent for the New York Times focusing on racial injustice this year she was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for her work on the time. Sixteen, thousand nine hundred project, which analyzes how slavery has affected our country among her many other honor. She's also a past recipient of the MacArthur Genius Grant. Thank you so much for spending some time with us. All of us who were lucky enough to spend any time with John Lewis are left just with our memories, but I'd like for you to talk about his personal legacy in your life for you. As, thank you so much for having me on to talk about one of the greatest Americans that this country has produced John Lewis was just a few years older than my own father. like my father was born into the segregated south into a family of sharecroppers so I very personally understand how he change the country that my father, and that he. He was born into. That would allow someone like me. an opportunity to work at a place like the New York Times and to do the Piper journalism that I do I just would not be here without him. and you know all of the other civil rights activists in everyday Americans who I consider to be really this nation's true founding fathers. How do you keep the legacy alive of such a towering and unique American? During a time in our lives, where everything we see around us is kind of his antithesis sadly. Yes, I mean the amazing thing about. Congressman John Lewis is that he was not one who felt that he needed to dictate our control the movement that was coming. He was a supporter of black lives. Matter. We spoke about it when I interviewed him about freedom, summer one of the last things he did before he died was to go see the black lives manner banner that was painted in DC so i. think what he much more than myself was. Optimistic he believed that. We would need to keep fighting these BABS, but they will worthy and that we would have victories and I think he has passed that legacy onto us, and it is our charge. You know we know that as As John Lewis died, there was a bill in Congress right now to restore the provision of the Voting Rights Act. That was good by the Supreme Court and that is his legacy. If we want to honor him, then the way to honor him is to continue his work, and that is one way to do that. I. Hope. My, sarcasm. Comes through over zoom or whatever it is, we're calling this technology because it is meant to be the dripping kind of sarcasm, you guys at the sixteen nineteen project must be working on some very scary stuff because it seems to trigger a lot of officeholders. Yeah. It's been an interesting time. The Sixteen nineteen project published almost a year ago. Next month it'll be a year and yet it seems like the people in the highest offices of this land have a bit of an obsession with the project and it's been. It's been interesting I hope though that this conversation will drive people in this country to do some reflection on why we hold so dearly to these founding myths, and why we still four hundred years after the first Africans were brought to this land. To be enslaved cannot deal with our history and our past. Thank you for not minding a little well. Sarcasm and thank you mostly for talking about the life and legacy of the giant, we just lost John Lewis and I'm reminded people will line up tomorrow morning at eight am. The line will stretch tomorrow evening until ten pm just to pay their respects Nicole Hannah Jones. It's been a great pleasure having you on. Thank you so very
With COVID-19 cases on the rise, five new testing sites in Miami-Dade and Broward open
"Expanding efforts to find more Corona virus patients here in South Florida. Emergency management officials have announced five free testing sites are coming up Broward and Miami Dade. They'll open drive through sights much Friday morning. 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. Every single day, at least until August 2nd, you'll find the sites at the Miami Dade Auditorium, Dillard High Blanche Ely Hi MacArthur High School in Hollywood and Miami Jackson Sr. And
Signs warn Los Angeles' Westlake, Pico-Union residents they live in a ‘high-risk area’ for COVID-19
"Gone up up in in parts parts of of Los Los Angeles, Angeles, warning warning people people that that they they are are in in Ah Ah high high risk risk area area for for covert covert 19 19 the the signs signs around around MacArthur MacArthur Park, Park, PICO PICO Union Union and and West West Lake Lake just just east of downtown L. A. They were put there by LA's first District City Council member Gil studio. We've been adversely impacted. We've had 7000 people who have been infected and had 3 300 people die, Unfortunately and so we are taking this very seriously, said hotels K Next, the area has many challenges to fighting Cove in nine 18 There's many essential low income workers to deal with the public and multi generational households were talking 14 people in a two bedroom sensitive, sometimes standard Angelino density and that that coupled with the height or force participation of the community means that we are extremely vulnerable to covert 19. CDO says The signs are in five languages because the area is home to many immigrants.
I Live In A Slaveocracy
"Nicole Hannah Jones is a certified genius a spiritual warrior and a journalist. Who's trying to change America? She's the spirit behind the sixteen nineteen project at the New York Times which was a takeover of the New York Times magazine as well as an incredible podcast series as well as an upcoming series of books and Articles. All of which are meant to help us further. Understand the way that slavery and it's a long lingering effects have shaped so many aspects of America so widely so deeply that she calls America a slave. Crecy Nicole's also done extraordinary work exploring education and racism. She's an intellectual bad ass. Who's got a MacArthur genius? Grant and a job at the New York Times and a mind full of brilliant ideas. I mean I listened to her and she just blows me away. She's awesome and I'm so honored to have had her on the show. It's the Great Nicole. Hannah Jones on tour ACO when the sixteen nineteen printed project came out. There was this thrill among black people like walking around like caring and cling to it holding onto it and like is like so important. Did you feel that excitement when like people were finally getting their hands on it? And like this is so great. Yeah it was like most amazing thing my life really. I I mean I. I hope we were making something powerful. I knew it was important. But as you know that doesn't mean that people will respond to it in that way and The response far exceeded exceeded any expectation. We we had. What was the pitch that I made to the Times this because this came from you not somebody saying. Hey imagine something but you said No. Let's do something no I I I've been thinking about sixty nine thousand four very long time and I'd been on booklet for about a year and a half and The first thing I pitch when I got back from book leave in January. It was the project and The pitch was very simple We have I I I talked to my editor about it. And then we have a weekly ideas meeting For the magazine and I just brought it up at the meeting and I said that This August will mark the four hundred aniversary of the first enslaved Africans being sold into Virginia and that most Americans have never heard of that date and that I wanted to dedicate an entire issue the magazine to assess as the ongoing legacy whole issue. It's not an article now the whole thing because what I said was that the argument of the magazine would be that you can look across all of these aspects of American life capitalism democracy. Why would only western industrialized country without universal health? Care our culture our legal system that almost nothing has been left untouched by the legacy and I wanted the magazine to look at a modern modern phenomenon across America life and then trace it back to the legacy of slavery and that we were going to be able to make these connections in a way that they hadn't been made and really Do a project place slavery. Actually at the center of the American story and immediately Jake Silverstein. The editor in Chief of the magazine was Ike. Let's do it. That was it and I mean that has been took off from there. I mean what this specific project but it has been part of your genius at getting major media institutions to say yes. Let's do a major project on a very specific deep issue of racism. Right I I came to know your work with you to two major pieces of segregation for this American Life. Yeah and now this major multimedia project for the New York Times just for those of us who are in those spaces or entering those bases. How do we get a room? Full of white folks say yes. We will dedicate a ton of space to segregation or a ton of space to the Slovak crecy of America. When they know a lot of the audience will be like. This makes me uncomfortable. Yeah I think to be clear. It wasn't that big organizations always wanted to say. Yes sir working on these issues for almost twenty years and There were certainly times in my career. Where with a struggle to get my news organization to allow me to do. The work wanted to do. But I think what What I has the benefit of. I've been studying this for twenty five years. I'm obsessed with it. I read widely on the history of raise on the sociology of raise. I have always treated it as an investigative story. And Not Simply. Let me show you how black people are at the bottom of this indicator. Let me show you this Segregation exists because that's not interesting. People know that anything you measure black people suffer the most from it but I always make them. I'm GONNA show you the architecture of it. I'm GONNA show you the intention of it and it's going to be investigative and it's GonNa be surprising to people and I think that's what once you have success doing that. Of course it becomes easier to convince people to let you do it but I think what? My work is always surprising to. People like people are not surprised segregation exist but when? I show them actually. There was a thirty year decision by the Federal Government. Not Enforce Fair housing laws. You know when I can say actually. We don't have universal healthcare because we have fought back against social programs because we thought black people would benefit them for more than one hundred and fifty years. I think it's that of surprise but also really the rigor of the scholarship Racist one of those things because everybody has a race that everybody thinks they know dislike covering education. Everybody thinks they understand how public education should work. Because they've gone to school and when you can approach them With the argument that they never thought they never knew is shocking to them surprising to them. I've been able to to sell those arguments and then you also have to actually be able to deliver compelling narrative rigors scholarship Get people to talk to you. All of those kind of normal reporting things as well.
Cecilia Muoz: Why People of Color are Always "More Than Ready"
"Have section of the book subtitled when people assume you're only there for a little color. When has that assumption made about you? Oh probably most of my career. I think so. They're definitely people who think that that's why am occur. I'm a macarthur fellow. I've heard people say the words I heard people say that One of the stories. I recount in the book. Is that one of the chiefs chiefs of staff that I served under told a couple people who wrote books about the first term of the Obama Administration that he gave them the impression that I was an affirmative action. Hire for the domestic policy job Which cost me a couple of years of self doubt and I did really spend a fair amount of energy wondering whether the people I was sitting at the table with whether that's what they thought But I took comfort from what Sonia Sotomayor says in her book. Her wonderful book stocks about getting to Princeton through -firmative action and she describes it as getting to the starting line of a race. And so so there. You are at the starting line but you still have to run it. And so and the I talked to seven other women I was this book and they all said the same thing happened to them all the time too and they all said their own equivalent of so. You're there at the table so you got to do the job You have to rise to the occasion you have to run the race And there are people who will assume that about you but it matters less if you know that you're crushing it and so that's your job when I ask other women. In my life other people in my life people caller. It's a pretty common experience and it can mess with your head. It certainly must with mine so I thought it was worth writing down some strategies for all right you have self doubt and you also have the doubts of people around you and here's some strategies for confronting that investing. What do you think is the most effective strategy? This book is called more than ready right. It's it's about the fact that the world is more than ready for what we bring to it but also everybody. I talked to that. Has these moments of self doubt. Says they deal with it by over preparing right by making sure that when they walk into the room that they know their stuff were more than ready because we work at it and we overcome our doubts and other people's doubts by working harder being good at it. The one thing I thought was missing from the book. And perhaps it's because it doesn't exist is the moment because it seems you're still grappling with some of these things even as you are encouraging me and other. Latina's to go for it. There's still a part of you. That has some of that inside voice them. That was there a moment that crystallized for you yes. It is the moment when my elder daughter Tina and I were talking about the two thousand sixteen election and I said to her. You know it's not like I haven't been around the block and I don't know from sexism but even still I am stunned by the misogyny that I'm seeing and she said mom. I'm not stunned. She said the difference between me and you is that you've been at it for so long that you're used to it and I thought Oh she's right. I come to accept a certain amount of self doubt a certain amount of misogyny a certain amount of racism because it's just my reality and she's younger and she can see it in a way that that is fresher and more vivid and it gives her a better capacity to fight against it into Kabul's yet on it so that was my moment.
Coronavirus fears over farmers markets could hit new growers
"Crisis farmers markets in the city of Los Angeles have been temporarily suspended at the direction of the mayor food is essential and I don't want the closing of farmers markets to have even bigger crowds at a grocery stores so Garcetti is asking farmers markets to quickly submit plans to ensure social distancing answers they'll get immediate review and they will be able to continue operating later in this week but we need to suspend this right away until we can get this under control crowding has also resulted in the closure of the silver like meadow meanwhile Garcetti says LA police have paid visits to dozens of nonessential businesses that have refused to shut down and if they continue to operate they will be referred for prosecution to our city attorney in another effort to prevent the spread of the corona virus the city's switching to automatic pedestrian crossing signals so people don't have to push a button starting in downtown and coming soon to the macarthur park in Hollywood
Eilean Mor Lighthouse Keepers - Scotland
"Setting for this story revolves around the Flan in aisles. Lighthouse the seventy five foot. Lighthouse was constructed between eighteen ninety five and eighteen ninety nine and cost about six thousand nine hundred pounds sterling which is a great British pounds and that's equivalent to about million dollars in two thousand nineteen money The Lighthouse was first lit on December seventh eighteen ninety nine so this lighthouse sits on. I lean more which literally means large island in Scottish Gaelic and is part of the plan. An aisles. A small island chain on the west coast of mainland Scotland. The islands have been devoid of permit residents since the automation of the flat. Isles Lighthouse in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. So Joe Have you ever bad into the Scotland? Scotland or Ireland. I have I have not either. It's like a lot of things it's on the list. The aisles provide nesting population of seabirds most notably the Atlantic. Puffins there is also a population of rabbits brought to the island by the lighthouse keepers other than Sea Birds in rabbits. There's no real hostile animals on the on the island so That'll rule out any kind of animal attack in the story. Yeah the island of Eileen more for centuries was regarded as a magical place with cer- a certain powerful aura surrounding it sheep herders. Who are the only ones knowns regularly visit? The island called it the other country and believed to be populated by spirits a fairy folk elves and supernatural beans as well as giant birds. Which were said to prowl the area so sounds like a pretty terrifying island. I actually don't want to visit it now. What's funny is it's really small islands just kind of flat. Yeah I won't say flee it's not like plateau wish but I mean it's not like it's huge and jagged so it's kind of funny to think about you think about people back then and there's not much going on so their imagination goes wild. Yeah that's all I can think of is like if you're a sheep herder and you gotta go to the island with your sheep every now and then like you've nothing else to do in expert thinking about this stuff. Yeah it's probably like a self fulfilling myth they hear it from somebody and then you know they probably morphed into these crazy. Stories of supernatural means giant birds over centuries of elephants. Yeah so Yeah the sheep herders and fishermen who visited the island were said to US special rituals to protect themselves from these magical island inhabitants and were said to communicate with them through a special dialect just for this purpose so these guys taking it serious yeah. They formed their own language to to speak with these spirits. So nine thousand nine hundred style. Lopping yeah there. You Go Even before the incident at the lighthouse there have been several stories about mysterious creatures and other things that gave people pause about the island so it sounds like if you lived back in that time. It's it's not somewhere he'd go with your family for vacation. You'd probably try to avoid the island. Yeah I think it exists solely basically to provide the lighthouse and to keep shifts from basically crashing into this island chain. So we'll talk about the lighthouse keepers of the. Eileen more they had if you can imagine a relatively easy job they worked in shifts with three men on and one enjoying two weeks off at all times. Okay so they're always three guys there in one guy off going back. Home was on the island at the time. The three men working that lighthouse that day. Where James do qat? He's forty three years old. Donald MacArthur Forty and Thomas Marshall. Who's twenty eight so I'm GonNa go right into the time line since it was a long time ago? It's based off of diary entries and captain's logs of the boat that was approaching to relieve a one of the men at the lighthouse. So on December Fifteenth Nineteen Hundred Captain Holman aboard the American steamboat. The Ark tour pass by Eileen Moore and notice that the lighthouse was out of operation so this is December fifteenth home and sent out a wireless telegram informing the mainland of the issue. It was for unknown. Reasons not immediately passed onto the northern Lighthouse board which is who is in charge of administering lighthouse. In addition to this First Oversight The lighthouses regularly monitored by telescope from the nearby. Lewes island by a guy named Roderick. Mackenzie Mackenzie had failed to notice that the light was out. The assumption is that there was thick mist in the area had obstructed views since it was just by a telescope for over a week. Known was sure what had happened on the island so they noticed the light was on the fifteenth. Yeah on December twenty sixth in one thousand nine hundred Captain Jim Harvey was bringing the fourth attendant. Joseph more so that has no relation to the name of the island is just coincidence. That the guy's name was more and they're going to the Eileen more so he was going to the lighthouse as the relief Attendant as the ship approached the island. He noted that something was off the re. The relief flag was not flying and no one was waiting the arrival at the landing of the more so he sounded the whistle on the boat and shot a flare to try and catch lighthouse keepers attention but the island continued to remain silent. So Joseph Moore wrote ashore in a row boat and went up the stairs from the from where he docks the boat that went up to lighthouse and according to reports from more himself. The replacement lighthouse keeper suffered an overwhelming sense of foreboding on his long. Walk up to the top of the cliff so he can almost feel. There is something not right so once at the lighthouse more notice something was immediately wrong the door the lighthouses unlocked and in the entrance hall. Two of three oilskin coats were missing. More continued onto the kitchen area where he found a half eaten food in an overturned chair. Almost as if someone jumped from their seat in a hurry to add to this particular scene the kitchen clock it also stopped more. Continue to search the rest the lighthouse but found no sign of lighthouse keepers. He ran back to the ship to inform Captain Harvey who subsequently ordered a search. The Island for the missing men known was ever found Harvey. This is the captain. The ship quickly sent back telegram to the mainland which in turn was forwarded to the northern Lighthouse Board headquarters in Edinburgh the Telegraph read. A dreadful accident has happened at the Flanigan's the three keepers Kat Marshall and the occasion and the occasional have disappeared from the island on our arrival there. This afternoon. No sign of life was to be seen on the island fired a rocket but as no responses made managed to land more who went up to the station but found no keepers there. The clocks were stopped and other signs indicated that an accident must have happened about a week ago. Poor fellows they must bend blown over the cliffs or drawn trying to secure a crane or something like that night coming on. We could not wait to make something as to their fate. I have left more McDonald and boy master in two seamen on the island to keep the light burning until you make other arrangements will not return to Obama until I hear from you. I have repeated this wire to moorhead in case you're not at home. I will remain at the Telegraph office tonight until it closes. If you wish to wire me. So that was his telegram a few days later Robert. Morehead the Board Superintendent who both recruited knew. All three men personally departed for the island to investigate the disappearance. His investigation of the lighthouse found nothing over and above. What more had already reported that is except for lighthouses? Lock so this work. It's interesting muirhead immediately. Noticed that the last few days of entries entries were very unusual on the twelfth of December. Thomas Marshall the second assistant wrote of severe wins the likes of which he had never seen before in twenty years he also noticed that James do cut the principal keeper had been very quiet and that the Third Assistant William MacArthur had been crying. I'm just picturing the scene it. It just reminds me of In movies where there's like people can find somewhere. How before something really bad happens. They're all just acting really strange and yeah. They started to go mad a little bit. Yeah yeah that's that's I I'm with you and that's exactly what I was thinking. So what's really strange about? The final remarks was that William Macarthur was a season Mariner it was known on the Scottish mainland as a tough brawler. So why would he be crying about a storm? And that's I mean if you can just imagine if you go there now yeah I mean bar fights drinking that type of thing so you have this guy here. That's like a big tough guy. You know brought to tears over a storm. I mean initially people from Scotland. There tough tough people. This is a third hand story that someone I know that's from Ireland. Told me you know like when they say tough brawler this happened. I ten fifteen years ago. He was in a bar in Scotland in this American walked in and kind of like a Dorky looking American and ask where the bathroom was and apparently somebody in the park didn't like that and literally bottled him. And that bottling is just. They broke a beer bottle over the back of his head. I don't know the story is true. But that's sound like stereotypical Scotland Bar. Like so I I believe it. Yeah WanNa believe it soccer team just lost and they're pissed off and yeah football team. Mike you'RE GONNA get body falls. Sorry but yeah. They're tough so log entries on the thirteenth December state at the storm is still raging and that offer men had been praying but why would three experience lighthouse keeper safely situated under Brand New Light House? That was one hundred fifty feet above sea level. Be Praying for storm to stop. This should be perfectly safe in theory. Even more particular peculiar is that there were no reported. Storms in the area on the Twelfth Thirteenth Fourteenth of December. In fact the weather was calm in the storms that were to batter. The island didn't hit until December seventeenth. So that's kind of what get strange about this because it's not some island off the mill nowhere. Yeah it's very close to mainland. So they would know if there were storms like that actually occurring at that time. Yeah and like you said they were all very experienced. They were stationed in a brand New Light House. That I'm sure the lighthouse still standing to this
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"Of Christ yes. I don't dispute the similarities. I just don't say the one is the other and that's where I think I would have the the difference any any less things you WANNA. You WanNa wrap up on this. But no I don't think so I'm anxious to hear Amelia's response Because I I have Appreciated so much of what he's said here and of course read grace media. Have benefited been blessed by two. So I'm anxious to hear his response here. Because I think what you're trying to point out is. There is much more consistency agreement between these two apparently different camps than we often take time to focus on There are some distinctions. There are some differences But even in those areas we can show grace and we can continue on his brothers and if Amelia does do a short response because this is pretty long but if if he does I'll put it right here at the end and and you can hear that you know or we'll do it on one or maybe we'll get a million here and we can talk about these things but I I want you guys who listen to appreciate that. There are differences. We can have in the way. We approach our theology way. We put those differences often are not as great as some tried to make them out to be. And that's why a guy like American hidden enjoy so thoroughly the macarthur's message even though he has some disagreements aiken enjoy Amelia's messages even though I have disagreements we're all we're all GONNA be corrected in heaven every one of us. We're wrong theologically somewhere. We just don't know where that somewhere is and wait for heaven for that so until that day. You know what bud say. That's a wrap. This podcast is part of the timing for twenty minutes for more content requested Speaker for seminar to Your Church that it's time to turn dot org okay so after the we recorded. I did send this to Emilio. He did have a response. Here's what he had said to me. He said cool. Show brother the only clarification I would make. Is that when I said? Allegorical is what I believe. In in the context it was referring to MacArthur's attributing allegorical Herman Ix Covenant Theology and Covenant. Theology is what I meant when I said I believe in obviously not allegorical heroics which denounced at the very opening of my statements. Hope that makes sense and for further information for you next week meal will come on and be our guest. We'll spend a full hour discussing this with him so you will not want to miss that. Because he is a brilliant man..
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"Non elect gentles well. No it's the issue of the elect And and I think that does help clarify what seems to be a wrangling over words With regards to Israel and I appreciate that That expression there if you focus on the elect what what does it mean then and what. I'm hoping out of this is that we bring clarity. Which was what his message was on. But bring clarity to wear the differences really are and I don't think the differences are much as people make it and Amelia recognized that this is a minute long clip. But he's GonNa talk about the one people of God that's now he's speaking elect not nation elect. Let's listen so ironically you're going to be talking about calvinism and the reformation which McArthur did in the message. He spoke Abou the KERMADEC of the reformers. No he he talked about the dangerous. Oracle preaching allegorical which I obviously subscribe to you but he also talked about how You know that some of what coming at the does of course replacement call replacement theology personally three with using that language. I don't think but Talking About Replacement Theology and coveted theology. God it often doesn't price anybody. That knows the controversy. But it's always going down to your Israel and the church Israel and the church and so for a common feeling. They're going to come from the perspective that there is one of the elect. Of course it's kind of like common sense. There's the elect a one group right. Okay so we're GONNA agree that's one group that's one group. Yeah and I. So here's where I'm going to agree with Amelia and disagree with John MacArthur. And this isn't anything new when John Macarthur was on. Ben Shapiro's I disagreed with as Amelia. Just did with with calling it. Replacement Theology Replacement Theology is the idea that God replaced Israel with the Church. And therefore it's it's a it's a complete replacement and I don't think Covenant Theologians hold to that most don't I should say the there's some that do but but the the overarching view of covenant. Theology would would agree with dispensational theology in the sense that you have. God's people you have God dealing with the nation of Israel you have God dealing with the Church and they're not the nation of Israel and the church have different functioning. I like I said they don't keep kosher. So there's there is a definite difference but the one people have got we agree. He's absolutely right but I don't think we should call it replacement theology. I think that when we want it and I don't think that Macarthur was trying to throw barbs. I don't think that but if you as someone who's listening to this listen to how we're trying very hard to not misrepresent because when you throw something out and say. Oh you're leaving replacement theology and the person doesn't believe in replacement theology. What are you here from Ameliorate? Now you hear him saying no. That's not what I hope to. And what does that end up doing that? Discredits in least this discussion. The view of listening to the other person when when I get a Muslim that comes to me and says you believe in three Gods I that point. He's discredited on anything going to say about Christianity. Why because he doesn't understand the basics of it okay and that's going to be the thing and so you don't WanNa do that. We're going a little bit long. But let me play a couple more clips. Here's Emilio with Israel manifesting in the church. And this is where we're gonNA start seeing some of these differences perspective that there's one people thought the Aleph of course it's kind of like common sense. There's the elect you know that's one group right and so they may have may be operating under different Titles identities in terms of historical situations that you find the elect manifested in the nation of Israel. Obviously we're talking about the Covenant but in the New Covenant as the Nation of Israel institution fades out of out of you then it definitely becomes more of a New Testament Church of God but it's the one people of God okay so again the one people of God you saw him use the word that we've been talking about but it's you hear how it's the this idea of. Israel MANIFESTED IN THE CHURCH. When we this is this continuity discontinuity thing but he's being specific here and I want you to pick up on this because I don't want the misrepresentation who's he talking about the one people of God who's that the elect so it's not the nation of Israel including the unelected would amelia saying is the elect. Okay so I want that to be clear this is what and this is why this gave such clarity because when we were first going through it and discussing this we're discussing it with several dispensational guys going we'll see they're referring as the nation of Israel and I went. Wait a minute. No He's being really clear on the elect of Israel of Israel run. That's the difference. Okay now there was something that I think. Either this is. He used two different words for this but when it comes to the allegorical approach it almost sounds like he said covenant theologians. Don't do it and do it so let me play the first this twenty five second clip and then there's a five second clip. I'll play after so let me. This is where he's going to say that they don't hold tune allegorical approach in no way whatsoever is a redemptive historical. Covenant Theology Kerman Nudity in no way. Is that teaching that we have some sort of? He didn't mean either either. Meet their misdemeanor in the Bible absolutely not. It's it's just calling for a organic unity within the estimates in through Providence. Okay so he's saying no hidden meanings no spiritual meanings and yet that when many people refer to allegorical that is what they're referring to that that's what they mean. Yeah correct and he says in this clip that he does hold tune. Allegorical view brought the dangers of horrible preaching. Which obviously subscribe to. Okay in this is. This was the one of the areas. I guess I had contention with what you said is. He says he does subscribe. He's talking about Macarthur. It's talking about the dangers of it. The dangers that he he mentioned macarthur. Was this idea that you can have a hidden meaning or the Plain. Reading of the text is not the actual meaning of the text. And that's what he was saying was the danger. That's what what's often referred to as the allegorical approach. Now he gives those. Those Dangers Amelio seem to an end. He can correct me. I'm not I'm actually I. I intend before this airs. We're going to have some time. Since according to Time I will be sending this to Amelio. And if there's correction needed he'll let me know But I it seems that the issue that you'll have with allegorical is the fact that the the reading of the text may not be the actual meaning of the text because you may read into it something from the New Testament. You may read into it. Something of you know looking for Christ where the text may not be dealing with. Christ I would argue God's glory and when we're looking at that way all scripture points to Glory Godwin prefers to Christ that's giving God glory whenever I to to anything else it's still giving God glory right so I think this is where I think the most disagreement that we would have is. What does it mean to hold to an allegorical approach? Bud allegory. Right we have. I'll really became popular very popular. Be In a book that I think you said. Someone said you weren't saved. Because he didn't read allegorical book pilgrims. Thanks for bringing that up. Yes progress in excellent book. Apparently I'm condemned already read helping Congress but the progress that whole book if you read. That is all allegory. I mean you have. A guy named Christian would represent a Christian. Worldly Wiseman is an allegory worldly. Wise Man right so there's allegory sweet in that book. You're not just reading that book. You're reading into that book. The Meanings of the names of people that are given okay. So that's what what we're saying with that so I think that with the allegorical. There is a danger there and I'm not sure where media is when he says he holds to an allegorical but doesn't see a deeper spiritual meaning or hidden meaning. If if you're I think when we see people that take the text of the Old Testament and either read the New Testament into it or Christ into it. That is what people are referring to as this allegorical reading into scripture And this is he is right. This is where we differ because we would read the Old Testament and unless the New Testament specifically tells us that this passage has a different meaning. We wouldn't be that. In where a reformed theologian would would do more allegory. So for example. Let me give you an example. I would not see the offering of Isaac as a picture of Christ I would read. That is what actually happened. Are there similarities between that sacrifice and Cry Sacrifice? Yes there is but that's not a. I wouldn't say that that is a picture where I would say. Jona being in the fish for three days and three nights and Chris being on across three days and three nights. That is a picture of Christ. Why because Christ said so. You see the the new revelation that we have speaks directly to that issue in a case like that. I'm going to say well. There was a a dual meaning there because scripture made it clear but what's my rule is scripture. Doesn't say it. I don't see it there now. Could there be lots of similarities between the offering of is in the offering.
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"Misdemeanor or something like that in the Bible. No absolutely not. It's it's just calling for a total organic unity within the testaments and through the covenants. And so I just thought I point that out here red crazy to do so much that we do so much biblical theology and redemptive historical theology and so But you know the message was really really great and Can't wait to see what else does talk here a conference but you know. Some of those points are points of conflicts among among reformed folks and so. I thought I would talk a little bit about that. So they do for the next next update all right so as we saw in that clip you end up hearing that. Amelio is responding to where he's different disagreeing with some of the things that macarthur had said and this is how it started the conference. So it's like hey let's start off with a bang right immediately. There's re response. It's one way to start a conference. Yeah really all the great fellowship. Now has a topic to talk. Yeah well I guess. Last year's Shepherds Conference the topic was I waited awhile and that was the whole topic of Social Justice and Truth Truth Matters. was I guess go home yet but that was at the end by then everyone was going home next all right so that was that was the clip in its that I had done in entirety. WanNa break this up and deal with different parts of this but if you've been listening especially if you listened to last week and you listen to what you said you listen to what Dr Macarthur said. I hope you noticed. It's like wait. A lot of these guys are saying the same thing. And that's the thing that I want you guys to realize there's a lot of similarity here and there's a lot of talking past each other a lot of times and so we don't WanNa do that And so with that. Let me play this first clip and where he is talking about the critique of Old Testament and New Testament position old testament is unintelligible without the New Testament. And only the New Testament can interpret the best I would just try critique datavision okay. So what he wants to critique and this is the beginning why he's doing. This is the idea that the old or New Testament. Interprets deal now? I think that he actually has a valid point here. And I think I think this is a thing that we need the clarity in how we define things but we hear from a lot of covenant Theologians and again for folks who didn't listen. Go listen to last week's episode where we defined how I used Covenant Theology and Reform Theology. But for the sake of this discussion I am using them kind of interchangeably. Because there's confusion with that but the way it was referred to as Covenant Theology. Some can stick with that the the thing we hear from many covenant Theologians. Is this idea of that. We're supposed to interpret the Old Testament by the New Testament and there's an element. We've already agreed that we do that. Right Bud out of Israel I call my church. What are we going to do? And we're going to interpret that Old Testament by the new but we're interpreting it we're doing is we're interpreting this not completely from old and not completely from new and I think this is what I believe. Emilia's trying to to say is that we that what he does. I don't think he's he's going to sit there and say I'm going to ignore the Old Testament context. I'm just going to look at the New Testament and read that meaning completely in. And that's I think what John Macarthur was also trying to get across but I think when people hear we read the Old Testament from the New Testament with. They hear what they're hearing that what they're interpreting is we read the New Testament into the old and I think Amelia would disagree with it and this is a question that I would have with. Folks is when you use when you use these languages be clear and because I think this is the issue that that many would have. Would you agree with that but I appreciate it? His comments I appreciated his observation You know this is not fisticuffs that he's engaged in here. This is Trying to clarify how he understands this based on what macarthur has posited and he's going to clarify this with the what he explained is the per se reading a scripture. So let's listen to on. That is a thirty second clip covered. Theologians are not saying all that the Old Testament is not clear. We believe in something known as the I say reading of Scriptures per se reading of scripture means that what you get in terms of new testament interpretation is Ashley precisely. What Old Testament teaching? So we're not at all. Are we saying that the new testament sort of bree interprets the Old Testament? Not at all okay. And this is I. Think a straw man argument that some dispensationalist would make against reformed theologians k the Covenant Theologians and. I think that's what Amir's responding to is that when some hear that phrase you interpret the Old Testament by the new testament what they mean or they think it means is you. Don't interpret the Old Testament at all other than by the new. You reject the whole thing and I think Amelia saying no you look at that Old Testament context but when we look at the New Testament it informs us on that Old Testament. So I'm GonNa look at the passage of the Old Testament in its immediate context where it is in the scripture. The grammar the text before the text after it. I'm going to look at the grammar of the text how that's laid out. I'm GONNA look at. It's where it is historically culturally on GonNa look at where it is spiritually. That's Old Testament Times. I'm GonNa look at all those things but then there may get a new testament passage that is giving us more information on that Old Testament passage. Well that's going to be further revelation. Guess what we have that in the Old Testament as well. We have the first five books of Moses but then we get further revelation that gives us more information about those Old Testament books so that is the same principle. This is the principle that we in the last episode of Progressive Revelation as we have more revelation it further informs the previous revelation explained when you have a child and the child is young. You're you're going to teach a child when it comes to electric outlets. No you. Don't explain electricity. Say No bad danger as they get older. You start to explain electricity. You explain what could happen when they get an a degree in electrical engineering. You explain very differently now. You further revelation. Okay when they get the in electrical engineering they explain it to you all the way around but you see that is And this is why in the last episode but I spent time explaining progressive revelation. Because when we see that the revelations progressive it's not a problem with her it's Old Testament to Old Testament or Old Testament to New Testament. We recognize what the text is in. Its context but then we looked through the rest of the progression of scripture to see. Is there more information that we have expounding this old testament passage to give us more information? What we WANNA do though when we do that. And here's the caution with that when we do this we want to make sure that the further revelation that we have is actually dealing with the text or the context of what we're going to too many people will add things in. They read something in from the New Testament into the old. That has nothing to do with each other. The the example I keep giving his out of Egypt I will call my son and we. We know that sued me corona buyers when that was actually it was happening when his preaching on the streets with comfort when it was out shepherd's conference every time. I'd cough like granola bars. So now he's got me doing this. Speaking of Egypt though was that that was not one of the plagues. Now never mind. Go ahead coughing. Were Corona's Corona Corona back. Then now so what you end up seeing in that passage when he sang out of each call my son he's he's referring to Israel and the thing there is. We see the New Testament giving us further revelation. That's not a problem and that is the thing that we just WanNa make sure that we're being clear with because there's a lot of people that are just they're going to misrepresent this this whole thing of well. This is what they really mean by it. Look at any time someone tells you what they mean by something and you think you know better if they correct you and they say no this is this is what I mean by it if you correct them and tell them that you know better than what they mean by what they say. You're wrong just as a general rule. You're wrong people when they know better what they mean by what they say. Okay so I get that all the time when people will be like you know they they they tell me what I mean by something and I said no no. This is what I mean by it and they like. I know this is what you really mean by it like well. You know. Apply that same thing to God. He's given this revelation and when he gave it at the time he gave it it had meaning it had content. He intended them to understand something from it. And it progresses so we we Acknowledged that with God paramount Louis. Than Uh than we do in other other situations. Yeah when you tell me what I mean by what I said. Yeah well I think I think what you meant by. What you said is that you wanted to give me twenty dollars and I appreciate that. Because I'll take that I think is isn't I mean. Isn't that what you heard but say now? Okay so let's look at this. I think we're having some agreement there but I wanNA look at this next shorter clip on th- oral intent in the.
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"Misdemeanor or something like that in the Bible. No absolutely not. It's it's just calling for a total organic unity within the testaments and through the covenants. And so I just thought I point that out here red crazy to do so much that we do so much biblical theology and redemptive historical theology and so But you know the message was really really great and Can't wait to see what else does talk here a conference but you know. Some of those points are points of conflicts among among reformed folks and so. I thought I would talk a little bit about that. So they do for the next next update all right so as we saw in that clip you end up hearing that. Amelio is responding to where he's different disagreeing with some of the things that macarthur had said and this is how it started the conference. So it's like hey let's start off with a bang right immediately. There's re response. It's one way to start a conference. Yeah really all the great fellowship. Now has a topic to talk. Yeah well I guess. Last year's Shepherds Conference the topic was I waited awhile and that was the whole topic of Social Justice and Truth Truth Matters. was I guess go home yet but that was at the end by then everyone was going home next all right. So that was that was the clip in its that I had done in entirety or WanNa break this up and deal with different parts of this but if you've been listening especially if you listened to last week and you listen to what you said you listen to what Dr Macarthur said. I hope you noticed. It's like wait. A lot of these guys are saying the same thing. And that's the thing that I want you guys to realize there's a lot of similarity here and there's a lot of talking past each other a lot of times and so we don't WanNa do that And so with that. Let me play this first clip and where he is talking about the critique of Old Testament and New Testament position old testament is unintelligible without the New Testament. And only the New Testament can interpret the best I would just try critique datavision okay. So what he wants to critique and this is the beginning why he's doing. This is the idea that the old or New Testament. Interprets deal now? I think that he actually has a valid point here. And I think I think this is a thing that we need the clarity in how we define things but we hear from a lot of covenant Theologians and again for folks who didn't listen. Go listen to last week's episode where we defined how I used Covenant Theology and Reform Theology. But for the sake of this discussion. I'm using them kind of interchangeably. Because there's confusion with that but the way it was referred to as Covenant Theology so can stick with that the the thing we hear from many covenant Theologians. Is this idea of that. We're supposed to interpret the Old Testament by the New Testament and there's an element. We've already agreed that we do that. Right Bud out of Israel I call my church. What are we going to do? And we're going to interpret that Old Testament by the new but we're interpreting it we're doing is we're interpreting this not completely from old and not completely from new and I think this is what I believe. Emilia's trying to to say is that we that what he does. I don't think he's he's going to sit there and say I'm going to ignore the Old Testament context. I'm just going to look at the New Testament and read that meaning completely in. And that's I think what John Macarthur was also trying to get across but I think when people hear we read the Old Testament from the New Testament with. They hear what they're hearing that what they're interpreting is we read the New Testament into the old and I think Amelia would disagree with it and this is a question that I would have with. Folks is when you use when you use these languages be clear and because I think this is the issue that that many would have. Would you agree with that but I appreciate it? His comments I appreciated his observation You know this is not fisticuffs that he's engaged in here. This is Trying to clarify how he understands this based on what macarthur has posited and he's going to clarify this with the what he explained is the per se reading a scripture. So let's listen to on. That is a thirty second clip covered. Theologians are not saying all that the Old Testament is not clear. We believe in something known as the I say reading of Scriptures per se reading of scripture means that what you get in terms of new testament interpretation is Ashley precisely. What Old Testament teaching? So we're not at all. Are we saying that the new testament sort of bree interprets the Old Testament? Not at all okay. And this is I. Think a straw man argument that some dispensationalist would make against reformed theologians k the Covenant Theologians and. I think that's what Amir's responding to that when some hear that phrase you interpret the Old Testament by the new testament what they mean or they think it means is you. Don't interpret the Old Testament at all other than by the new. You reject the whole thing and I think Amelia saying no you look at that Old Testament context but when we look at the New Testament it informs us on that Old Testament. So I'm GonNa look at the passage of the Old Testament in its immediate context where it is in the scripture. The grammar the text before the text after it. I'm going to look at the grammar of the text how that's laid out. I'm GONNA look at. It's where it is historically culturally on GonNa look at where it is spiritually. That's Old Testament Times. I'm GonNa look at all those things but then there may get a new testament passage that is giving us more information on that Old Testament passage. Well that's going to be further revelation. Guess what we have that in the Old Testament as well. We have the first five books of Moses but then we get further revelation that gives us more information about those Old Testament books so that is the same principle. This is the principle that we in the last episode of Progressive Revelation as we have more revelation it further informs the previous revelation explained when you have a child and the child is young. You're you're going to teach a child when it comes to electric outlets. No you. Don't explain electricity. Say No bad danger as they get older. You start to explain electricity. You explain what could happen when they get an a degree in electrical engineering. You explain very differently now. You further revelation. Okay when they get the in electrical engineering they explain it to you all the way around but you see that is And this is why in the last episode but I spent time explaining progressive revelation. Because when we see that the revelations progressive it's not a problem with her it's Old Testament to Old Testament or Old Testament to New Testament. We recognize what the text is in. Its context but then we looked through the rest of the progression of scripture to see. Is there more information that we have expounding this old testament passage to give us more information? What we WANNA do though when we do that. And here's the caution with that when we do this we want to make sure that the further revelation that we have is actually dealing with the text or the context of what we're going to too many people will add things in. They read something in from the New Testament into the old. That has nothing to do with each other. The the example I keep giving his out of Egypt I will call my son and we. We know that sued me corona buyers when the that was actually it was happening when his preaching on the streets with comfort when it was out shepherd's conference every time. I'd coffee grown a virus. So now he's got me doing this. Speaking of Egypt though was that that was not one of the plagues. Now never mind. Go ahead coughing. Were Corona's Corona Corona back. Then now so what you end up seeing in that passage when he sang out of each call my son he's he's referring to Israel and the thing there is. We see the New Testament giving us further revelation. That's not a problem and that is the thing that we just WanNa make sure that we're being clear with because there's a lot of people that are just they're going to misrepresent this this whole thing of well. This is what they really mean by it. Look at any time someone tells you what they mean by something and you think you know better if they correct you and they say no this is this is what I mean by it if you correct them and tell them that you know better than what they mean by what they say. You're wrong just as a general rule. You're wrong people when they know better what they mean by what they say. Okay so I get that all the time when people will be like you know they they they tell me what I mean by something and I said no no. This is what I mean by it and they like. I know this is what you really mean by it. Well you know apply that same thing to God. He's given this revelation and when he gave it at the time he gave it it had meaning it had content. He intended them to understand something from it. And it progresses so we we Acknowledged that with God paramount Louis. Than Uh than we do in other other situations. Yeah when you tell me what I mean by what I said. Yeah well I think I think what you meant by. What you said is that you wanted to give me twenty dollars and I appreciate that. Because I'll take that I think is isn't I mean. Isn't that what you heard but say now? So let's look at this. I think we're having some agreement there but I wanNA look at this next shorter clip on th- oral intent in the.
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"I'm sorry it's a shepherd's conference. I tried to work with the audio best. I could so that you wouldn't hear it So much of that background noise. But you're argon here that because of the fact that he's in public he's got a lot of people around. He is not a pulpit. He's he he was outside. And so you'll hear there's water going. Because he's by the fountain you hear people talking so forgive that all right. So here's the clip coveted theologian. Somebody that adheres to a redemptive historical approach to scripture with Macarthur was talking about Covenant Theology having sort of in its permanent Point where the old testament is unintelligible without the New Testament And that only the New Testament can interpret the whole I would just I would just finally critique that position because Luke Hilo genes are not saying at all that the Old Testament is not clear we believe in something known as I say reading of Scriptures per se reading of scripture means data. Why don't you get in terms of New Testament? Interpretation is actually precisely what the Old Testament is. So we're not at all. Are we saying that the new testament sort of read interprets the Old Testament? Not at all. But we're saying the New Testament. All the New Testament does is. It brings to bear in a fuller fashion. The per se reading of scripture meter original intent what the authors actually intended his actually liberalism that teaches that the apostolic interpretation. The Old Testament is something like the re imagining a reinventing Sort of of recasting of the original meaning in order to sort of Comedy Office Stolac interpretation of the events surrounding the life of Jesus that is not at all coveted theology teachers with the simply saying and what redemptive historical permanence teaches. Us IS THAT PUT. The apostles make clear is that there is a unfolding of the Gospel from Old Testament. And what you have in. The Bible is an Inter Test Mental Gospel and Inner Tested Mental Gospel. And that's taught in places like Romans chapter one versus before prescription prescriptive. Chapter fifteen is one to four and in Hebrews Chapter One verses one through four if you remember one hundred four hundred four hundred four in all of the sections what you find. Is You find that. The Apostles saw the one gospel he's preached consistently throughout both estimates. And so it is not as. Old Testament is focused on the realities of these three and that the new testament focused on the realities of the church. That's that's what we would part ways illogically and Herman uniquely what we would say. Is that now? What the New Testament makes clear? Is that all along whether old or needs tested. The One Gospel is applied to and is talking about the one people of God which is the left. And so ironically you're going to be talking about calvinism and the reformation which McArthur did in the message. He spoke Abou the reformers he talked about the danger of Oracle Preaching and allegory which is obviously subscribed to but he also talked about how You know that some of what Covenant Theology Does of Course Replacement Call Replacement Theology. I don't personally. Three o'clock language accurate but Talking about replacement theology and coveted theology again. It often doesn't controversy is always going to boil down to your Israel and the church is real shirts and so for eight feel. Oh can't they're gonNA come from the perspective? There's one people thought the elect of course it's kind of like commonsense if there's the elect at you know that's one group right and so they may have they may be operating under different Sort of titles are identities in terms of historical situations that you find the elect manifested in the nation of Israel. Obviously we're talking about the old covenant but in the New Covenant as the Nation of Israel as an institution sort of fades out of out of view then it definitely becomes more of a New Testament Church of God but it's one people of God really is the manifestation of blacks. And so all I would say is in no way whatsoever is redemptive historical covenant theology terminated in no way is that teaching that You know we have some sort of.
"macarthur" Discussed on Andrew Rappaport's Rapp Report
"It's a shepherd's conference. I tried to work with the audio best. I could so that you wouldn't hear it So much of that background noise. But you're argon here that because of the fact that he's in public he's got a lot of people around. He is not a pulpit. He's he he was outside. And so you'll hear there's water going. Because he's by the fountain you hear people talking so forgive that all right. So here's the clip coveted theologian. Somebody that adheres to a redemptive historical approach to scripture with Macarthur was talking about Covenant Theology having sort of in its permanent Point where the old testament is unintelligible without the New Testament And that only the New Testament can interpret the whole I would just I would just finally critique that position because Luke Hilo genes are not saying at all that the Old Testament is not clear we believe in something known as I say reading of Scriptures per se reading of scripture means data. Why don't you get in terms of New Testament? Interpretation is actually precisely what the Old Testament is. So we're not at all. Are we saying that the new testament sort of read interprets the Old Testament? Not at all. But we're saying the New Testament. All the New Testament does is. It brings to bear in a fuller fashion. The per se reading of scripture meter original intent what the authors actually intended his actually liberalism that teaches that the apostolic interpretation. The Old Testament is something like the re imagining a reinventing Sort of of recasting of the original meaning in order to sort of Comedy Office Stolac interpretation of the events surrounding the life of Jesus that is not at all coveted theology teachers with the simply saying and what redemptive historical permanence teaches. Us IS THAT PUT. The apostles make clear is that there is a unfolding of the Gospel from Old Testament. And what you have in. The Bible is an Inter Test Mental Gospel and Inner Tested Mental Gospel. And that's taught in places like Romans chapter one versus before prescription prescriptive. Chapter fifteen is one to four and in Hebrews Chapter One verses one through four if you can remember one four hundred four hundred four in all of the sections what you find. Is You find that. The Apostles saw the one gospel he's preached consistently throughout both estimates and so it is not as Old Testament is focused on the realities of these three and that the new testament is focused on the realities of the church. That's that's what we would part ways illogically and Herman uniquely what we would say. Is that now? What the New Testament makes clear? Is that all along whether old or needs tested. The One Gospel is applied to and is talking about the one people of God which is the left. And so ironically you're going to be talking about calvinism and the reformation which McArthur did in the message. He spoke Abou the reformers he talked about the danger of Oracle Preaching and allegory which is obviously subscribed to but he also talked about how You know that some of what Covenant Theology Does of Course Replacement Call Replacement Theology. I don't personally. Three o'clock language accurate but Talking about replacement theology and coveted theology again. It often doesn't controversy is always going to boil down to your Israel and the church Israel shirts and so for eight feel. Oh can't they're gonNA come from the perspective? There's one people thought the elect of course it's kind of like commonsense if there's the elect at you know that's one group right and so they may have They may be operating under different Sort of titles or identities in terms of historical situations that you find the elect manifested in the nation of Israel. Obviously we're talking about the old covenant but in the New Covenant as the Nation of Israel as an institution sort of fades out of out of view then it definitely becomes more of a New Testament Church of God but it's one people of God really is the manifestation of blacks. And so all I would say is in no way whatsoever is redemptive historical covenant theology terminated in no way is that teaching that You know we have some sort of.
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"I've got like five pages. There's going to be a new blog. Article on striving for Dot Org from. I'm on I wouldn't be surprised if you guys don't read his blog posts every Sunday morning His series come. Let us worship. You're really missing out. Just saying he doesn't excellent writing and he's not going to let you know that. So I'll let you know that Thanks Andrew pressure actually. We both know you're working on one that we're going to do as a podcast probably series that. I'm looking forward to apologize that long. Oh it's GonNa be so good. Are you guys wondering what it is? Well you're going to have to wait just cuckoo. Say What the main topic is sure. This is the rap. Report is not the bud blog. The Bud block but the mud brief so it it has something to do with the sinner's prayer. I've just leave it at that. So you know look forward all right. So let's let's get to this because we probably the definitely the same day that Macarthur preached that message. It almost seemed like it was within an hour or two or three of macarthur preaching that we had someone that did response and we wanNA play the clip. And this is from a pastor in Texas Someone who who I have a great deal respect for it is Amelia. Rama's he is He's a super intelligent guy. He I will admit that. I've clipped this to the five and a half minutes that he refers to specifically addressing what John said in the clip that we played and so in this. Seventeen minute clip that we played macarthur. There's a five minute clip of him responding. A the full clip. I think is of a meal is longer. I've chopped to this but I want to preface. This is he he does. I think the total thing is is maybe twelve minutes and he spends a good portion of the beginning part explaining his respect and love for Macarthur. So he's not a critic he's not someone who's just looking to poke holes. This is a guy who does a lot of study and though I may disagree with some elements of what he says I have the utmost respect for him and so I want that to be cleared. Just like he had the utmost respect for MacArthur but disagrees with MacArthur. I have the utmost respect for a meal Ramos. And you know it's not I don't want anyone listening to if I happen to disagree with him. I don't want anyone thinking that. Oh you guys don't like each other. No Emilian I we get together. We see each other shepherds conference. I love to fellowship with him. He is a wicked smart guy. I always learn from him. His books are excellent well written. So there's there's nothing here that's like Oh let me give dig to him because we disagree and this may be something that you guys need to learn if you think that there has to be if there's disagreement you have to be digging at each other now I can have. I have respect for someone and disagree with him and I would. I would believe knowing. Amelio that he's going to disagree with me but he would have respect for me. He would. He would not sit there and be like all gonNa write him off because you disagree with me. That's not Amelio. Okay if you listen to the full clip. It's on a red grace media on facebook. At least that's where I found it. But if you if you listen to it you're GONNA you're GONNA see. He does the same thing I just did. A giving respect him he does that with Macarthur so this is the way. We should discuss the algae. So here's what I WANNA do. I want to drop in the full clip so that you get to hear the the five and a half minutes that we're GONNA chop up. I want you to hear them in context. Okay so that you can hear everything that he said and then I want to kind of break this up and address of where we disagree and disagreement is fine. We can all get along and yet disagree all right. So let's let me play this clip and then we'll talk about it. The audio quality is from the shepherds conference. He had a mike on him. But you're going to hear people that are all around him..
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"Right without the New Testament. We wouldn't know that that quotation is a reference to Christ. There's nothing in the Old Testament texts that tells us that's referring Christ's now that is further revelation. You and I talked about this idea of progressive revelation last episode. Yeah that's progressive revelation and we're getting more information but guess what that does refer to Israel. It doesn't mean that that verse had no meaning until Christ it meant that that did refer to Israel but had a further meaning referring to Christ. And we do see this with scripture. With prophecies that there's a near long-term fulfillment we see things that are within the profits time. Sometimes of here's the here's the near term prophecy and yet it also has a long-term fulfilment that isn't seen until Messiah comes and so. I think that we have to recognize that. This is in play I think that's what you're seeing with with some of this stuff so I think there's going to be the unity there. Excuse me crawl. Let me just start. Rona Corona told the paper. Well Yeah I had to stock up on the toilet paper. Yeah just in case you know I I did I complete side no but it was hysterical when this virus started and you know they had a at about the beer because people were thinking it was and they're like you're you don't get this from drinking beer you all right. So here's the thing as we as we look at this and we examine the issues that macarthur was saying with. This is that I think when we come to an old testament text of you that MacArthur would have dispensations would have is that we're going to look at the Old Testament text first and foremost in its immediate context. It's historical setting. It's cultural setting now. The New Testament may give us further revelation of that text. But we wouldn't say that that New Testament interpreted in other words. We're not going to reinterpret the meaning of the text looking at the New Testament looking at Christ. I gave the example last week of Song of songs. Many people will say this is Christ in the church because they have to find Christ in every passage of the scriptures. And when you do that it does change what that book is about. Because it's no longer about a picture of a of the love within marriage. It's the picture of Christ in the Church and so did the did the meaning really have the effect until Christ. Then that book really doesn't you're missing the point. If that's the point of it is Christ then you don't see the point until he comes you and so a dispensational say no we we service in its context. We see about God glorifying marriage now with that we can examine it In light of of Christ coming but we I it as godly marriage and yes. It's has that picture but that's not its purpose and so I think that's where we get to some differences. Yeah I think one of the Notes Ahead I don't know if this is a verbatim quote but Macarthur certainly certainly made this point. Allegorical IX obliterates clarity and that's true and so as we consider scripture as a progressive revelation of God. He's clear at the point where he's revealed. Whatever he's revealed to that point it's capable of being understood that's the benefit of the of literal historical grammatical But suddenly you throw in this allegory. There is hidden meaning than suddenly. It's not clear anymore. And it becomes no longer objective. It becomes very subjective And that's a dangerous thing and we've seen that play out in church history and recent church history with the emergent moment Year you're relying on subjective interpretations which often and almost always never actually reflect the true meaning of what the Texas giving us and I know that may strike some people because as we say that allegory is GONNA destroy clarity. They think that will allegory. Is the right way to do it. This is what we've seen throughout church history this what we see in scripture. They're going to make the case for and so. There is a place for allegory. We're WANNA be really clear that button are saying. There is a place for allegory. The issue is is. What are the rules? That you apply. This is where I kinda focused. The time on is the rules because I remember many years ago John Blanchard on if you're familiar with as an author. He applied as pastor of a church where I was on the Pope Committee and I was the one that was talking to all the men who were applying and I remember talking with him and he ended up realizing that the church. Even though I'm dispensational the Church was New Covenant Theology and He's Covenant Theology and there's differences there you listen to the last episode to get those differences but what ended up happening is. He was arguing for an allegorical interpretation. And the question I kept asking him. He wouldn't answer is. What are the rules? You apply to know when its littoral in when it's allegory because that's the issue that's really the heart of it if you have no rule that says okay and in this case it's allegory in this case is literal. Then you can make it up as you want to go. Perfect example herald camping. Just anything of Harold. Camping and everything was Harold. Camping is allegory. When he wanted to be he makes everything whatever he wanted to be. Many colts do this. Allegory is the way of taking the word of God and making it. Say anything you want it to say. That's the reason we say that. It destroys clarity now. Does everybody do that. No okay this is the thing most people that argue for an allegorical approach. Don't actually say that everything's allegory. They recognize that. There's things that are not. There's things were Christ considering the door. Yes that's allegory. But there's a whole lot of things that are not allegory. They're not gonNA take it as allegory. They don't suddenly say that Christ being crucified is is an allegory of something else. And this is the thing with within the hermitic that but and I are kind of espousing. The grammatical historical approach would what? I would argue that. A normal interpretation dispensational interpretation. What you end up seeing that is you. You take it. You look at it as literal unless it's an idiom or be. The context makes it clear it's allegory. If the context is making it clear. It's an allegory. Then you take it as allegory if it's taken as an idiom than it's an idiom but so you're not taking everything absolutely literal but you start with it being literal unless proven otherwise that would be the difference is you need to have some rules to it. Because if you don't have the rules then you can have people using allegorical approach. That can make the Bible. Say anything they want. Okay any other comments that you have on would jump or Thir said yeah..
"macarthur" Discussed on Andrew Rappaport's Rapp Report
"Right without the New Testament. We wouldn't know that that quotation is a reference to Christ. There's nothing in the Old Testament texts that tells us that's referring Christ's now that is further revelation. You and I talked about this idea of progressive revelation last episode. Yeah that's progressive revelation and we're getting more information but guess what that does refer to Israel. It doesn't mean that that verse had no meaning until Christ it meant that that did refer to Israel but had a further meaning referring to Christ. And we do see this with scripture. With prophecies that there's a near long-term fulfillment we see things that are within the profits time. Sometimes of here's the here's the near term prophecy and yet it also has a long-term fulfilment that isn't seen until Messiah comes and so. I think that we have to recognize that. This is in play I think that's what you're seeing with with some of this stuff so I think there's going to be the unity there. Excuse me crawl. Let me just start. Rona Corona told the paper. I Well Yeah. I had to stock up on the toilet paper. Yeah just in case you know I I did I complete side no but it was hysterical when this virus started and you know they had a at about the beer because people were thinking it was and they're like you're you don't get this from drinking beer you all right. So here's the thing as we as we look at this and we examine the issues that macarthur was saying with. This is that I think when we come to an old testament text of you that MacArthur would have dispensationalist would have is that. We're going to look at the Old Testament text first and foremost in its immediate context. It's historical setting. It's cultural setting now. The New Testament may give us further revelation of that text. But we wouldn't say that that New Testament interpreted in other words. We're not going to reinterpret the meaning of the text looking at the New Testament looking at Christ. I gave the example last week of Song of songs. Many people will say this is Christ in the church because they have to find Christ in every passage of the scriptures. And when you do that it does change what that book is about. Because it's no longer about a picture of a of the love within marriage. It's the picture of Christ in the Church and so did the did the meaning really have the effect until Christ. Then that book really doesn't you're missing the point. If that's the point of it is Christ then you don't see the point until he comes you and so a dispensational say no we we service in its context. We see about God glorifying marriage now with that we can examine it In light of of Christ coming but we I it as godly marriage and yes. It's has that picture but that's not its purpose and so I think that's where we get to some differences. Yeah I think one of the Notes Ahead I don't know if this is a verbatim quote but Macarthur certainly certainly made this point. Allegorical IX obliterates clarity and that's true and so as we consider scripture as a progressive revelation of God. He's clear at the point where he's revealed. Whatever he's revealed to that point it's capable of being understood that's the benefit of literal historical grammatical But suddenly you throw in this allegory. There is hidden meaning than suddenly. It's not clear anymore. And it becomes no longer objective. It becomes very subjective And that's a dangerous thing and we've seen that play out in church history and recent church history with the emergent moment Year you're relying on subjective interpretations which often and almost always never actually reflect the true meaning of what the Texas giving us and I know that may strike some people because as we say that allegory is GONNA destroy clarity. They think that will allegories the right way to do it. This is what we've seen throughout church history this what we see in scripture. They're going to make the case for and so. There is a place for allegory. We're WANNA be really clear that button are saying. There is a place for allegory. The issue is is. What are the rules? That you apply. This is where I kinda focused. The time on is the rules because I remember many years ago John Blanchard on if you're familiar with an author. He applied as pastor of a church where I was on the Pope Committee and I was the one that was talking to all the men who were applying and I remember talking with him and he ended up realizing that the church even though I'm dispensational the Church was New Covenant Theology and He's Covenant Theology and there's differences there you listen to the last episode to get those differences but what ended up happening is. He was arguing for an allegorical interpretation and the question. I kept asking him. He wouldn't answer is. What are the rules? You apply to know when its littoral in when it's allegory because that's the issue that's really the heart of it if you have no rule that says okay and in this case it's allegory in this case is literal. Then you can make it up as you want to go. Perfect example herald camping. Just anything of Harold. Camping and everything was Harold. Camping is allegory. When he wanted to be he makes everything whatever he wanted to be. Many colts do this. Allegory is the way of taking the word of God and making it. Say anything you want it to say. That's the reason we say that. It destroys clarity now. Does everybody do that. No okay this is the thing most people that argue for an allegorical approach. Don't actually say that everything's allegory. They recognize that. There's things that are not. There's things were Christ considering the door. Yes that's allegory. But there's a whole lot of things that are not allegory. They're not gonNA take it as allegory. They don't suddenly say that Christ being crucified is is an allegory of something else. And this is the thing with within the hermitic that but and I are kind of espousing. The grammatical historical approach would what? I would argue that. A normal interpretation dispensational interpretation. What you end up seeing that is you. You take it. You look at it as literal unless a it's an idiom or be. The context makes it clear. It's allegory if the context is making it clear. It's an allegory. Then you take it as allegory if it's taken as an idiom than it's an idiom but so you're not taking everything absolutely literal but you start with it being literal unless proven otherwise that would be the difference is you need to have some rules to it. Because if you don't have the rules then you can have people using allegorical approach. That can make the Bible. Say anything they want. Okay any other comments that you have on would jump. Arthur said yeah. I've got.
"macarthur" Discussed on Christian Podcast Community
"More well. Welcome to another edition of the RAP report. I'm am your host Andrew Rappaport and we are finishing up a series. This is kind of like a bonus episode This is something we were doing. A series on the church We basically looked at the definition of the Church through my book. What do we believe you can get that? At striving for turning dot org go to the store that is available there you can also go to. What do we believe Book Dot Com and order your copy? Get all of the teachings that we have there but we did four weeks on the church. And what is the church? And that's really going to be helpful especially last week's episode to understanding we're GonNa have discussed today but what we WANNA do. Today is play. Something from Shepherd's conference is a pastor's conference that I attended bud was absent this year. He was it must have been a sin thing that he didn't attend the Pastor's conference prayer. Can Tell You In that case I don't think that was motivated by sin. But please keep your interest regardless if you're used to presume there's always a need so you absence you got to hear this one because I grabbed it really quick and said Ou. We're GONNA WANNA play this because of the topics that we've been discussing but especially after last week last week but I we talked about this view of covenant. Theology that a lot of people used to get I've had made a Lotta enemies by saying that covenant. Theology comes out of the Roman Catholic Church reformed. Theology is what people believe and people. It's just historical. It's not like a dig on Reformed Theology or Covenant Theology. It's just we use bad terminology. A Lotta Times. All of us do this so I really tried in the last episode to give that historical context and here I think Macarthur does a very similar thing in providing the historical context for four specifically not the the definition of church but the harmful system that we use to interpret scripture. And how this idea that we've been talking about in. The last four episodes plays into that. I think he did an excellent job. And because if you and I were to to chop this up it being like a twenty minute clip we would be here for the next four episodes. They're really the reality is I. Don't think there's anything more to say than letting Macarthur Sade himself so what I WanNa do is actually play. A clip is not the full message. This is it's about a little less than twenty minute clip. Now I will let you know that for the sake of time. What I've done is actually I cut out the the silences in this just so that we can reduce it. It was like a twenty four minute clip that we cut down to seventeen minutes just because we cut out some of the silence so you can get more of the content. So I'm letting you know that up front because there was a little bit of editing done just for silence and you might get some of the applause or laughter. That's that's out of there but the purpose of it is you get the content. He gives an after this. But and I'll come back and we will discuss what you just heard. This is an excellent clip. I mean fifty years of preaching. He has really honed his skills. This is superb. Yeah we listen to this. Actually as we're listening. Anthony texted me because I was inside the auditorium and he. I think he was outside at that time where he was sitting in a different spot and he texted me. Goes man the bombs that Macarthur's dropping he actually said he thinks that this was macarthur's like the beginning of his final salvo. You know that he's he's he wants to go out with a bang and it's like this is the thing that the whole topic that he had was clarity. The clarity scripture. And that's the context of this but it almost seemed like he went off on this twenty minute tangent and if you listen to the full thing when it is released you'll hear that he ends up he's like how much time do I have. Oh I better I better get to. The message is always like he just went off on this tangent with these pastors in but after fifty years you gotta give them that right. Yeah he's he's. He was on target here yes. So here's here's from the Twenty Twenty Shepherds Conference session number one with John MacArthur on the clarity of scripture. Now this is so foundational in a no you know that this is so foundational that the father of lies will stop at nothing in his infernal efforts to counter the clear word of God and a lot of ways that Satan attacks but we're talking about clarity or PERSP- acuity as it's called Satan has many many devices ten years before John was given the revelation ten years before the New Testament. Final Book was inspired and delivered ten years before that a man was born to a pastor. That man's name was March Ian Son of a pastor. He denied the inspiration of scripture. He denied the authority of the Old Testament and parts of the New Testament. He was born even before the New Testament was finished and he became an agent of sate faithful pastors. Even that early fought against that names like Tatelli. Near AENEAS JUSTIN MARTYR CIPRIAN earnestly fought for the Integrity Authority inspiration of scripture in Martian was declared in one forty. Four a heretic and rightly. So you would've thought well. Maybe that was it. Maybe that was. The final victory wasn't because Satan's very subtle and though the early pastures defended the inspiration and authority of scripture valiantly. Satan took another angel. Satan decided to tamper with their maneuverings. There was introduced allegorical Herman. Ix into scripture interpretations call the Alexandrian School. There are very significant names associated with that School Clement. Origen perhaps most prominently of Augustine and just taking your Guston for example. He believed that the Old Testament had four levels of interpretation the superficial and somewhat insignificant interpretation was the literal one. The next one was the allegorical one which was to say that the words did not mean what appeared to mean. They meant something else. But that wasn't the deepest. There was a deeper yet level of interpretation that he called the moral and as if that wasn't enough he went four deep to what he called the mystical. The consequence of that was the obliteration of any hope of interpreting. The Old Testament accurate so while they had won the battle over inspiration. Authority lost the battle over her maneuverings and now whatever the ultimate meant was in total chaos and it seems so spiritual seem so profound seem so mystical all old testament clarity's lost words don't mean what they normally mean. There are hidden meanings bizarre meanings. They're all imported into the text by imagination but faithful pastors also fought back and there was another school of interpreters that rose called the Antioch School. And the most familiar name was John Chrysanthemum. And you can be thankful for him. He believed in the literal historical grammatical method of Bible. Interpretation he disdained all those four levels and said the Bible means exactly what it means. Literally historically grammatically good news is by the time you get to the reformation. Luther has bought into that and more importantly John. Calvin this is an interesting thing. Took the theology of Augustine the New Testament sociology of Augustine and married it to the Herman Unix of Saas them and came up with the reformed faith allegorical obliterate clarity they totally obscure the clear word of God so many pastors through the ages have been confused. They rejected the church largely rejected the allegorical method. But they couldn't flight get past the fact that they had been so influenced about some deeper meaning of the Old Testament. They decided this pretty pretty universally that the Old Testament was to be interpreted by the New Testament that the old testament was subordinate to the new testament that the old testament could only be understood by the New Testament and the idea was established through the centuries by the Medieval Church and it today of course into Roman Catholicism. It was Thomas. The coyness born in twelve twenty five. Who said the clarity of scriptures interpretation can only be delivered by a later revelation? Okay so let's set allegory. Aside say that's the victory but the clarity of scripture. The meaning of scripture can only be delivered by a later generation by a later revelation so the Old Testament is subject to interpretation by the New Testament. So then you ask. What about the New Testament? How are we supposed to interpret the New Testament Roman Catholic answer? The New Testament is interpreted by the church. New Testament is interpreted by the Church listened to the Council of Trent which was.
Author Colson Whitehead on 'The Underground Railroad'
"Colson. Whitehead's new novel. The underground railroad is already making a mark as a work of fiction that combines history and metaphor telling a story about slavery in America in new and surprising ways whitehead is the author of many books including zone one and Sag harbor and he's also received a macarthur genius grant and many other awards Colson. Thanks so much for being here. Shurmur pleasure so this is not your first novel. Obviously but how many novels have you written? And the last one was about poker this is my sixth and I have to nonfiction and last nonfiction was about Playing the world series of poker and having to bone up on a game and and trained for a couple of weeks and crash course in order to play at the annual big game that was the no Hustle Noble Hustle. Yeah so how did you get from the Noble Hustle to the underground railroad? I'm always sick. Like whatever style is working in on the book and the last book was first person a lot of jokes. I saw it as a humor book. That's tried to cram as many weird jokes in as I could With the underground railroad. Well it's fiction. Try to have humor in my books but obviously you can't really have as many jokes for page in a book that slavery so that so that was good. My last couple of novels had a ton of black dudes walking around thinking about things and it seemed Have a female protagonist and mix it up and never explored a mother daughter relationship before so it seemed good for me to break out of sort of a mode. I'd been did part of the idea of this scary you to brighten the voice of a woman example multiple her. I mean I think That's your job. I mean. It's Nice if people say oh you got a female characters voice and I just think well. That's what you signed up on when you pick the book and said as female character like if you have a plumber and Drain you go. Wow you were the UNCLOG that drain. That's why you call them and That's why he did it. So it was hard to tackle slavery and get into the Research and really contemplate and immerse myself in the horror. Hadn't only people walk around thinking about slavery in a deep way all the time and Obviously exposed to route. I was very young and studied it in college but I had immersed myself in slave narratives and a very long time and now that I'm older you know affects me more than it did when I was a teenager in my early twenty s and so I'm realizing how much the true ours was not to submit my protagonist in her companions to Dante and terrifying. It also seems that I mean we're roughly the same age that depictions of slavery obviously there was roots and there was a beloved but in the last decade or so have almost reexamined it and in a way that's a lot more fearless and visceral and that you're kind of fits in well with that Well I think You know taking liberties with historical record. I mean I'm playing with time. Once Cora gets deep into her journey but that first section mergers George. I want to be as realistic as you know. I can make it. Which means a lot of brutality? And it means impressing upon the reader the psychological tortures that they were forced to endure so for those who have not yet read the buck. Let's just talk a little bit about the the story line We start off as you mentioned in Georgia with Cora. Court is Sixteen or seventeen year old girl Owners didn't keep track of their slaves. Birthdays she has no idea how old she has. Her family has gone. Her mother has run off years before. And she's a an orphan astray on the plantation. A man named Caesar sold down South From the north he has contacts underground railroad so they light out to the north availed themselves of his contacts. And that's when the book changes I guess I had this idea that you know. What if the railroad was an actual literal railroad would apprentice not so much of a full story? Was that the first like one of the first things that you came upon when you were yes about. Sixteen years ago I was thinking. Oh isn't funny like when you're a kid and I hear about anything other little subway and that was like one little well actually on twitter. I'll search for the entire book and it'll be teenagers in school. Like Oh missy stupid. She thinks of underground wherever and as always like a couple of those a day. So I think it's a common Fantasy the notion and then I was thinking mcdan- to a story like what if every state Georgia South Carolina North Carolina. She goes through is a different state of American possibility. And so I was thinking about how each different character and the first place she ends up is South Carolina which is seemingly benevolent paternalistic place. Where a lot of programs for black social uplift jobs programs housing North Carolina is a white supremacist state. Where black people were outlawed and not allowed to step over the state line and so I was trying to sort of tweak American history to expose various tensions and I mean did you sort of create certain rules for yourself like well. This is going to be this part of me. Maintain kind of historical accuracy and integrity. And I will place these sort of discreet. What could have been or what might have been or what was then and not there within Georgia where we meet on the plantation going to be very realistic and traditional depiction of plantation life. And then the first gets the WHEEL ROAD. She looks up and sees a skyscraper and that's As a writer that's why I'm GonNa let it rip and have fun and go crazy and and the beaters notions and it's a you know. Obviously a big signs of the reader that we're not I think you know. I thought the Book Sixteen years ago and initially in for many years each state took place in a very different time frame and so South Carolina would have been like in this very stylized future place with with gene experiments and enslaves bread for different roles. And it would have been an fantastic. Gestures would have been much more broad and a sort of cloud atlas type style and so you're in a different world and the North Carolina chapter was going to some sort of fifty suburbia Myst- sort of Eisenhower Era America. That was the default for many years of the Voice of the book and a structure and then has to be read and as mentioned in the review. Glad to see it a hundred years of solitude which I read when I was in high school and had been an impact on me and I read it a few months before I started writing this book and it just seemed what if I just toned it down and didn't have to have these broad gestures ever sort of my default setting. There's a section in the book where she's a living exhibit in a museum and she acts out scenes from a plantation and a slave ship behind glass for the museum's patrons and I feel like five years ago would have been a ten page. Like huge like setpiece announced like two pages. It's interesting because I think just in the paper today. There was a photo from one of these museums. Where you know wasn't the Museum of Living Wonders but place where they reenact an earlier incarnation of America and you know and there were two African American people dressed up in costume. The first world's fairs you know often had an jungle natives and garb Dancing around to fit some some some sort of idea of darkest Africa Their various African pygmies were you know paraded For the delectation of American audiences you know once I decided not to make a historical novel and play with Time. Allowed to bring in things like that. Which occurred in eighteen fifty but were part of America in the late nineteenth century and the various things about eugenics and the Holocaust which I bring in. That's novel eighteen fifty but they ranked true and so I think another rule of besides concision was stick to the truth and not the facts and so There seem to be a truth in that museum. Section and where core funders in North Carolina that. I wanted to be loyal to even if it didn't actually
"macarthur" Discussed on Bullseye with Jesse Thorn
"I've been saying that for years but Linda Berry is a genus. She's a comics artist and writer. She started her career as an Undergrad. At Evergreen College she made a regular comic. They're called Ernie kooks comic by saying that right. It ran for almost thirty years. She's written over a dozen books. Some of them novels most of them compilations and more recently some how to books her work is usually at least somewhat autobiographical. She talks about her childhood. Her family her past relationships. The stories are funny but also poignant lately. She's been teaching. She's an associate professor at the University of Wisconsin in Madison and she has published a book about it. Sort of it's called making comics came out last year. It is amazing. It's her third. Instructional book about creativity at the heart of. It is a belief that Linda has. Anyone can draw. Anyone can make comics. The struggle she says is putting pen to paper getting out of your head long enough to actually make something that very practical philosophy combined with a forty plus year career of making brilliant comics helped Linda earn a macarthur genius grant late last year. Like I said Genius Anyway Enough Introduction. It's time to welcome back to the show. My friend the brilliant one and only Lynda Barry. Let's get into it Linda Berry. Welcome back to Bullseye. It's nice to have you back on the show. I'm delighted to be back. And congratulations on being an official genius. Very happy for you. Thank you very much Linda. Why did you want to write a book specifically about comics to follow up your what is now becoming a string of books about how to be creative well. One of the reasons was because of everybody that I've ever met who when they find out that I'm a cartoonist. Always says I wish I draw and I know that people Kendra and I After teaching at the University of Wisconsin Madison for about seven years. I kinda had a bunch of recipes for how to make that happen. And so that's the book making comics is kind of like a recipe book or cookbook. That's full of these exercises and I also wanted to make a book that if there was a teacher that wanted to teach making comics but they felt self conscious about their own growing which is usually enough to make people not teach something. I wanted to make a book that was sort of anyone. Anyone could do it in that anybody who wanted to use this book to lead a class could do that or you could use the book and pretend you were in my class. So there's a lot of stuff in there you know about my attendance policy and seeding and grades. Even though I know that people having it won't be in my class I feel like it it. It can scare you a little bit that there's a teacher there saying you have to be here on time and you have to a class but mainly. I just wanted to make a book of these exercises that over. The years have always seemed to work and not just work to help people make drawings but worked to actually make them feel good while they were doing it. Have you ever been self conscious of your own drawing? Yeah Yeah I think that that's part of the deal. I think that's always a little bit of it. And self consciousness on one hand feels terrible. But there's always a little bit of a thrill with it too and so. I think that you know when you're drawing. It's always kind of a live performance. Especially if you're drawing with real paper and real inc vs on a tablet that has that step back feature the delete button if you're going forward it's sort of like a live performance and it's a record of how your hand is moving. That's what a drawing record of how you're a human hand is moving and sort of the traces it left behind so there's always an element of Freakout in it. But that's the part that's good if I can show people that that's the part that's fun. The fastest way that I can do that is by asking them to close their eyes and I asked them to draw something for me for one minute. Not Opening Their eyes and I always ask them to draw a Bacon and egg breakfast with coffee and silverware with their eyes closed for one minute and when people do it they're freaking out and then they open their eyes and they're always super happy. They always start laughing because they can see the bacon and eggs on the. It's all there. They didn't see it happen. And then I ask them to do the same thing but draw a mermaid and the kind of laughing that happens after that is even more hilarious because the mermaids definitely there but she's there in all these crazy pieces like if they lift their pan while they're trying to draw her head and then they can't remember where the head is so the features might be over an inch or her that you know the coconut shell brought might be on the wrong side of the page but it's also hilarious and so that to me is a different kind of drawing. There's all kinds of drawings just like there's all kinds of alcohol drinks and that comics are a very particular kind and anybody who can write the alphabet or a actually already learned to make comics because you know how we call the letters of the alphabet characters. We all had to learn how to draw those characters and in the beginning. Writing is drawing so it's getting back to that very basic and I do think it's A. It's a native human language drawing so it's getting backed -ted that getting people right back to that. I like that your go-to metaphor is like there's all different kinds of alcoholic drinks. He's like there's all different kinds of birds. There's all different kinds of fruits houses. I guess I'm thinking about the perfect environment for making comics and sometimes involves a couple of drinks. So what part of drying or your own drying where you self conscious about or are you self conscious about. Well if for instance if I am going to draw like drawing this morning I was looking out the window of my hotel and there are buildings and cars and buildings and cars in general tend to be difficult if you're concentrating on perspective or trying to get it to look right but there is this point were. I just move my hands so fast that it's almost like a little kid drawing and if I can get if I can if my hand can move faster than me arguing with it then. I'm not self conscious. But if I'm arguing with my hand and my hand slowing down because of it that's when I become self conscious and that's the beauty of asking people to close their eyes draw because for most people particularly people who gave up drawing early on for most people they can draw for a longer with their eyes closed than they can with their Eyes Open. And you know. Most people quit drying at about the age of eight or nine when they realized they couldn't draw nose or hands and that was it they'd just felt washed up. Most people give up then and don't come back but the cool thing is for those people who quit drawing at that time. They're drawing style is intact from when they were that age and so for comics. Those people have an advantage over people who've drawn the entire time of their life because that drawing style that is still in their hands that never kind of got educated Is just perfect for making original comics. What are the special things about comics specifically as a medium? The combination of words and and abstracted pictures. You know to me when you put these two things together They have a power like to me. They have the power of music. You know. We're there's lyrics and then there is The melody and when you put those two things together there is a power and when you keep them apart that power is diminished. And the way you find that out is when you're in the eighth grade and you write down all the lyrics to your favorite song because it feels like a poem what goes up must come down. Spinning wheels have got to go round right. And then you look at it. You look at the lyrics and they're just lame but somehow when there's music with it it has this power and that's how I feel about comics that comics are this mix of of words and pictures and also comics take advantage of the basic human ability to a need to recognize upright human faces And the mood that that base is also the body and the position of the body and the position of the hands. That's what human beings are interested in and we recognize that stuff at an instant so that's one.
Whats behind Jeff Bezos $10 billion climate plan?
"Jeff as pledges ten billion dollars toward climate solutions. We have questions from American public media. This is marketplace tech demystifying digital economy. I'm Ali would. We don't have many details yet on the basis Earth Fund the ten billion dollars that Jeff Bezos pledged last week to address climate change but it is by far the largest philanthropic commitment that isn't from government and other investors in climate tech and solutions will tell you that while we need. Climate policies will and unity. We also need a whole lot of money. Jayco is managing director of the private equity firm. The Light Smith Group which focuses on adaptation technology and. I asked him where this ten billion dollars fits in the landscape of climate investment. Yeah so ten. Billion IS A big number. How you apply. Ten billion can dramatically change the scale capital. That actually is moved As a result. So there's a few initiatives like the Rockefeller Foundation's and Macarthur Foundation's focus on something. Catalytic capital where small amounts of concessional investment or even grant funding Can reduce the potential or perceived risk for commercial investors and encourage them in much larger scale to come in two different new investment strategies. They're this announcement was met with a lot of skepticism. And a lot of you know sort of Monday morning quarterbacking other things that Jeff bezos could do or should be doing. Do you think that's fair? I'm an all of kind of guy and so I think right now. If you really take the climate change problem seriously and I think we all should we face an enormous and potentially existential challenge to The way that life Operates here so I applaud this commitment and the scale of it is something is designed to signal that kind of seriousness. Would I think would be great? Would be to use it not simply just to double down on everything that we have now but to be thoughtful about how could mobilize even more funding. How could actually support targeted kinds of innovation? How could actually particularly support? I think The disadvantaged populations in developing countries out to. They're really going to be to the chin. Here I WANNA ask you about priority setting. What I'm curious about is whether this amount of money by it's sort of Sheer Hampton weight has the potential to create almost like a Softbank Effects. And so what? If as I said I'm going to use this fund for cricket meal would then a bunch of other things get neglected and cricket meal would take off if I could wave a magic one with ten billion? I would say that it should be done over a number of different years and then you should pick a variety of strategies where maybe half of it you double down on everything. That's working best right now just accelerated and then I would take a bunch of it and try to think about exactly what you're talking about. Which are are there one or two really important? Longshot ideas or longshot areas or areas of really important focus where this could have a dramatically important effect. Jayco is managing director of the Private Equity Investment Firm. The Light Smith Group BEZOS and Amazon. Haven't given any more information about how the Earth Fund will work but Bazo said on Instagram. That he expects to start making donations this
The Murder of Taylor Wright
"Taylor right was due in court and she needed money. Taylor's ex husband was owed child support and he wanted back the thousands of dollars. She withdrew from a shared bank account and a judge agreed for these observations. Made all the simple things between y'all very difficult even for example exchanging the child would say everything number of cases. Yes the money issues between Taylor Jeff. Right started in February. Two thousand seventeen. Jeff was living in North Carolina. While Taylor was living in Pensacola Florida. They were legally divorced and shared custody of their son in July. Two Thousand Seventeen Taylor withdrew one hundred thousand dollars from shared bank account. Jeff was furious and filed a motion for contempt against Taylor. They were scheduled to go to court on September seventh but the day before the hearing Taylor asked to continue it until September twelfth. Did that's the price you why not. This was part of the pattern of delayed and and every opportunity. See Taylor didn't want to give the money back to Jeff. She reportedly had a quote win at all costs attitude with how she handled disagreements with. Jeff she was withdrawing cash transferring money and taking out cashier's checks. She also asked her friend Ashley Macarthur to help her hide the money. The Ashley added Taylor to one of her bank accounts and told her she put thirty thousand dollars in cash into a safety deposit box to hold on her behalf but when it was finally time to go to court Taylor knew she needed to get her cash back from Ashley. She needed to get to the bank. She needed to get her money out and she needed to put in an escrow account with this mess with her ex husband or she was going to be in trouble with the court. Taylor repeatedly asked to go to the bank together. She knew the bank wouldn't allow her to get into the safety deposit. Box Without Ashley there on September Eighth Ashley agreed and picked Taylor up around ten. Am Taylor was in the process of moving into her girlfriend? Cassandra's house and Ashley loaned her a box. Truck to move her belongings. In CASSANDRA. Better known as CASS said. Goodbye to Taylor and Ashley and went about her business for the day casts in Taylor texted back and forth for a while but the text messages from Taylor stopped around eleven thirty. Am Kasten Taylor. A couple more texts after lunch but got no response around four PM. Cast texted Ashley. Are you okay? Taylor hasn't responded to me an hour's Ashley replied yes. Ma'am cast texted back. Can you please have Taylor call me a minute later? Ashley called casts or were they were and heard from Taylor what she tells you. She told me that killer was emotional. The shoe was out riding a horse on her on. Ashley's family farm in Milton and that they'd be home shortly told her to have Taylor calling when she'd off the horse around seven thirty PM. Cast texted Ashley again. This isn't okay. She wrote Ashley called cast and said that after she and Taylor left the farm they went back to Ashley's House and around. Five or five. Fifteen pm Taylor said she was going to call an Uber and go and have a drink. Ashley said she never saw Taylor again after that about twenty minutes after that phone call casts. Got a text message from Taylor's phone that said I'll call you later. I need to get my life organized just before midnight. Ashley Texted Casts. I just got a text from Taylor. Ashley. Sent cast a screen shot of the text from Taylor that read. I'm okay I just need time to court was stressing me out cast. Didn't hear from Taylor all day on September ninth on September tens. She called the Pensacola Police Department on Monday. September Eleventh Cassandra had still not heard from Taylor and what you will hear. Is that her and Taylor kind of having some issues. There was a meeting. That Taylor and CASSANDRA had at Ashley. Macarthur's house where Taylor admitted she'd been talking to somebody else and she had tried cocaine a few times. So when Cassandra didn't hear from Taylor for a few days she was upset. She was angry. All these things came back and she wanted. Taylor stuff gone from her house. Super Sandra call this defendant ash the MacArthur and said Hey. Can you come get your box truck with all of Taylor stuff in it and can we put it at Your Business? The Pensacola automatic amusement had a very large warehouse. So Taylor's belongings were taken to that warehouse on September eleventh after still not hearing from Taylor on September fourteenth CASS went to the police department and formerly filed a missing persons report on September fifteenth. Henson Cola Police Department. Detective Richard Gig. Liatti was assigned to the case. Detective Gig Liatti went through Taylor's belongings a few days later and found a nineteen thousand dollars. Cashier's check made out to Taylor right. He thought it was weird for person to voluntarily. Go Missing and leave behind so much money. So then where was Taylor right?
New York Icons: Kaufman Astoria Studios
"New York for its entire. History has brought people together of wildly different backgrounds and that might be different races or cultures or a geographic areas Irish people and Jews and African Americans and you know Italians but also different classes. You had the tenement girl and the rich playboy and everybody in between well. That's just a natural for storytelling. But when these stories were told by Hollywood what was distinctly New York about them could get flattened out for the mainstream. If you look today at a Marx brothers movies the first couple of Marx brothers films. They're throwing all these terms around. Mommy's Nora Nori. There is Jewish for free loader animal crackers in the coconuts where designs you know for a New York audience but when the Marx Brothers then do moved to Hollywood and they begin making films for MGM. There's no Yiddish in those movies anymore. Right they become the sort of universal. You Know Hollywood movie Marx Brothers that that's from forty second street classical nine hundred thirty three musical about the Broadway chorus girl who becomes a star that connick number has the busby Berkeley dance formations but it also has the skyline the elevated train street vendors and attempted rape and murder. It's a film about New York. Made in Hollywood that helped form what sanders calls the mythic city. That dream version of New York. That's a distillation of the real place. Forty Second Street and all those back stage musicals that were made all the homes that were about the putting on of a Broadway show. They were shot in Broadway theaters. They were shot in Hollywood sound stage theaters. You know there was just endless numbers of these amazing films which did not have a single frame except possibly the establishing shot the opening shot would be shot in New York as the credits ran by with music behind him in. May Nineteen thirty. Three paramount turned the Astoria studios over to its main creditor western electric that companies filmmaking arm Eastern Services Studios INC operated it as a rental studio for independent productions. Its output varied widely. The Scoundrel for example was set in Manhattan's literary world. Noel Coward plays a ruthless hated publisher. Julian place the woman he charms. Mary's then abandoned putting something happened. Man I do live. I hope you're playing folk killed when you're dying using it on. The homepage of the year does not think of human when he dies. He's condemned to damnation unless he finds one person on Earth to mourn. Him novelists writes Ben. Hecht and Charles MacArthur rotated but at Astoria. They also got to produce and direct. They won an academy award for best original. We don't be Marquette. Hulu your new. There was a series of Spanish language. Musical starring Tangos Star Carlos Gardell Tambien. A nineteen thirty. Three's Emperor Jones was based on the controversial Eugene O'Neill play main character was a black pullman porter who escapes prison to become dictator of a small island. The film could only have been made with independent funding. Then the studios were called to service for World War Two. The Department acquired the property in Nineteen Forty Two and the pictorial center of the army. Signal Corps moved into make trading and propaganda films. They expanded the facility and built barracks for the soldiers. The army used motion pictures in the war effort and turned to experienced filmmakers for help frank. Capra worked on a series of orientation films called why we fight one episode related to our won the Oscar for best documentary. Just what was it? Made US change our way of living overnight but turned our resources are machines our whole nation into one vast awesome producing more and more weapons of war instead of the old materials by the end of the war the ABC employed over two thousand people making movies over half of them civilians. All this work even brought new film techniques like multiple angles shooting and change film in even more momentous ways for five years American audience. It has been seeing newsreels. And it's someone you know. A movie maker said well you couldn't you couldn't bring in the enemy for for production meeting you know before. The battle and people went out with sixteen millimeter cameras. And these lightweight cameras that could go everywhere. They saw actual action after the war audiences and creators had developed a taste for this more realistic filmmaking. There was an appetite. For a new kind of filmmaking. That would be used more available light less contrived cinematography be shot with faster. Granier film be more shot on location and feel more like a took place in real place and not this kind of fabricated construct and be more adult this desire for realism meant the glossy representations of New York. That Hollywood made before the war wouldn't do director is like Ilya. Kazan felt their stories needed New York locations and New York talent. You don't understand I coulda had class. Gerber contamination could have been somebody by the MID FIFTIES NEW YORK. Filmmakers were more than just contenders. The Oscar wins for on the waterfront in nineteen fifty five and Mardi fifty six affirm. That excellence could come from outside. Hollywood New York is setting is capable of whatever mood or dramatic statement? You WanNa make architecturally in its light for talk about winter light as Mr Bergman did. New York's winter light image. That Sidney Lumet in the documentary film titled by Sidney Lumet. He grew up on the lower east side in nineteen fifty seven. He went from directing theater and TV. Two movies with twelve angry men. You're asking us to believe that somebody else did the stabbing with exactly the same kind of knife. Larger a million or one go onto make more New York classics like Serpico Dog Day afternoon and network. He died in twenty eleven. I'm not comfortable anyplace but New York when I leave New York for any other place in the United States My nose starts to bleed. Filmmakers at this time took full advantage of New York locations for their exterior shooting. When they needed a controlled indoor set they may do with whatever studios were available. Tv Or old movie studios the old Bronx by graph for example operated as a rental studio under different names until the seventy s the Astoria Studios. Meanwhile were still occupied by the army. There was some leftover stages from the twenty s and they reuse them and Sidney Lumet told me amazing stories of going onto these studios which he was in an editing room up in the Bronx. That had been Edison's old editing suite with an e draw you know kind of worked into the curtains E for Edison. These were the oldest movie studios in the world and they were using them in the nineteen fifties to make all those great early in mid fifty s movies like Twelve angry men and on the waterfront the city eventually recognized how vital New York and the screener to each other in nineteen sixty six mayor. John established the first mayor's film office in the world to lower hurdles to filming their Lindsay's film office streamline the permitting process and removed a lot of red tape for shooting in the city he even dedicated a police. Unit to location shoots then in nineteen seventy. The army moved production to different site and turned the Astoria property over to the federal government. This was not simply a movement of some soldiers because most of the people making the films were grips carpenters electricians and actress who were part of. New York's commercial motion picture industry so they were not at all happy when this plug got pulled in Astoria. The complex sat abandoned. For years unprotected and open vandals people would go in there. Rip The copper out of the walls and those people with a purpose then they were also just people in there for mischief terrible condition in the meantime you have this eyesore at the edge of a residential communities have halfway between the area and Long Island city. It's just getting worse and worse and worse. They abandoned cars dropped all around weeds growing through the sidewalk. I remember this very clearly. The film unions local community and the city got together to preserve the studio site. Save film jobs and clean up the neighborhood in nineteen seventy seven. They formed the nonprofit a story of Motion Picture and Television Center Foundation. They managed to prevent the studio from being sold off or turn down by getting the site on the National Register of historic places a process that normally took years.
The Rum Rebellion Began - January 26, 1808
"Hi again everyone. I'm eve and you're listening to this day in history class where instead of going going back to the future we go back to the past today. It's January twenty. Sixth Twenty Twenty and the day was January. Twenty six eighteen o. Eight William Bligh. By the Governor of New South Wales was deposed by a military coup. The military was in power for two years during a takeover now known as the rum rebellion though. This name was not used at the time in seventeen eighty eight. The first fleet led by captain. Arthur Phillip arrived in Australia from England on January twenty. Sixth ships arrived at Port Jackson marking the beginning of British colonisation on Australian mainland a place. That was already inhabited Abbott by indigenous. Australians the first fleet included military and government officials their families and other colonists but it it also included hundreds of people convicted of crimes and sentenced to Transportation New South Wales was founded as a penal colony. Philip became became the first governor of the colony governors represented and took instruction from the British government. They were the supreme authority in the colony and because the British parliament element was far away. They were able to exercise. More power than parliament prescribed. The New South Wales Corps made up of several hundred men formed armed in England in seventeen eighty nine many of them were unskilled or semiskilled men who were struggling and Britain and looking for a better life in New South Wales in addition to better wages and living conditions that the men could look forward to the officers. Got The opportunity to engage in trade land grants from the governor and Hand Free Labor from convicts at the same time officers grew wealthy and lived comfortably. People in the colony dealt with food shortages and poor infrastructure infrastructure since the colony did not have enough currency trade was handled through barter per misery. Notes and coins convicts in lower ranking thinking military members were often paid in goods especially rum imported from India. The officers of the Corps monopolize the trade in rum buying buying it up and exchanging it for goods and labor because of this they became known as the Rum Corps. The commanding officers of New South Wales Corps took Over after Governor Phillip Return to England in Seventeen Ninety two during their time in power they controlled the colony's economy. They administered the colony until governor. John Hunter took the reins seventeen ninety. Five hunter ended the next governor. Philip Gidley king fought the military's monopoly on trade but to tale in eighteen. Six William Bligh became the governor of New South Wales by had a reputation for being tough and he began efforts to control troll trade monopolies and corruption among officers. The cores officers began to resent him. Bligh soon clashed with former corps. Officer John Macarthur over a land grant and conflict between the two continued over other matters when black hat macarthur taken to trial over an issue involving MacArthur ships tips. The court included a jury of six core officers. The trial escalated from accusing the officers of treason to the cores commanding officer. George Short Johnston issuing an order that bligh be removed from office on January twenty. Sixth Eighteen eight men from the new South. Wales Corps marched marched from the parade ground on High Street to Government House followed by a large crowd they found and arrested and deposed him. Johnston and Macarthur Macarthur then took control of the colony. BLIGH remained under arrest in Government House with his daughter for more than a year. The next Governor Lachlan Macquarie took over in January eighteen. Ten the seventy third regiment replaced the New South Wales Corps mcquarry cancelled all land grants. The court sentences made under the military's rule and he called for quote union tranquility and harmony declaring that everyone appointed to an office of law after after the coup would be immune from prosecution regarding their actions while in office
"macarthur" Discussed on KCBS All News
"At the macarthur station in July of twenty eighteen the judge says he'll do his best to make sure a fair and impartial jury is seated jury selection is expected to begin this morning medical professionals say it's time to change the policy on east critters KCBS is Bob Butler says they want safety measures after the number of scooter accident victims going to the hospital more than tripled in recent years eve good earth are very popular Nikon Amiri is a researcher at UCF self I think those Easter companies that have that are now you can request the stairs on smartphone those have been pretty prevalent recently and I think that appeals to young people especially you know the millennial age Asia I just think it's a it's a hit they're very fine but you know it's also really dangerous you think there should be a policy requiring helmets and elbow pads and knee pads where I was using a lot more scooter injuries now than we did even just a few years ago Dr Christopher call Wallace chief of emergency medicine as Luxembourg San Francisco General Hospital they run the whole gamut of relatively minor injuries with bumps and bruises to very serious injuries and even even death as a result of that it's not just millennials either a sixty nine year old woman is in fair condition at the hospital after crashing her scooter into a cement mixer on the Embarcadero Monday afternoon in San Francisco but Butler KCBS people across California who are struggling to pay their traffic tickets could get a break soon the governor is calling for the legislature to approve funds for a statewide program that will allow low income drivers to have their traffic tickets reduced by as much as fifty percent Martin Hoshino administrative director of the state judicial council says the amount of unpaid traffic tickets just keeps growing if that trend line is continuing in addition to the decrease in the amount of citations and a decrease in the amount of that we are actually collecting in the same window in time that would suggest that we just crossed the tipping point and we push people over the age to where they just cannot afford to pay these program is meant for lower income people but also may be able to help those with moderate incomes state lawmakers one step closer to closing a loophole in the law the benefits drivers under the influence leave the scene of an accident Gavin's law as it's called pass the assembly public safety committee yesterday the law was written in honor of the Central Valley man Gavin Gladding he was jogging in twenty eighteen when he was hit and killed by a suspected drunk driver hello all of their is Maria via or via spent a year in prison he was sentenced to three he fled the scene after hitting gliding in turn himself in four days later after sobering up according to current law those who get caught in a fatal accident conveys many more years in prison than those who leave the scene and comebacks over Gavin's law aims to close the gap increasing the maximum sentence for deadly hit and run driver from four years to six the bills next hurdle is the assembly Appropriations Committee before going to the full assembly we Union City as wanna fewer fire station this morning budget cuts prompted the city to close the station at thirty it serves the communities border with New York but it's KCBS Jeffrey Schaub reports firefighters are still angry with the decision Sean Burroughs says station thirty is critical Burroughs is president of the Alameda county firefighters local fifty five it's really important to the safety of the citizens yeah the city council has made the decision to effectively reduce their firefighting capabilities and their services for paramedic services by twenty five percent Union City spokesperson Lawrence are going and says the city has had to make major budget cuts and that a consulting organization found station thirty was under utilized what they found was that fire station thirty honey Singh court was handling on average one point seven calls per day versus some of the other three went remaining station that I don't have the numbers on the at that were more in the three to four calls a day the Korean says the closure with me in a one minute increase in response times for a fire or medical emergency firefighters say it could be as high as fifteen minutes in Union City Jeffrey Schaub KCBS twelve twenty four your business news in one minute.
Verity Health System Announces Closure of St. Vincent Medical Center in Los Angeles
"Saint Vincent Medical Center in LA is closing its doors for good at the end of the month can extend seventies Emily Valdez has this live report from the hospital employees tell me they found out the hospital was closing when they got to work today now it's closing because the hospital has been losing money it was in the process of being sold to another company but that sale fell through patients tell me that their doctors told them today I spoke with one employee a medical technician he didn't want to give his name had an idea that there was a possibility the did the so wouldn't go to worst case scenarios that we will close on the side the worst case scenario has come true of course they don't have jobs lined up just yet he says he's going to start looking ads for the patients we're told that the patients will be transferred to other medical facilities after stand hospitals off third and Alvorada which right near macarthur park this is an underserved community the hospital as three hundred and sixty six beds and emergency room offers dialysis cancer treatment this is a huge blow to the surrounding community opulence is that would have taken patients here are now going to divide the patients between eight other hospitals within a three mile radius this means the other hospitals are gonna be busier and news release also sent out said that hospital it also is going to be transferring the patients but one mother of a patient a girl here who's receiving dialysis treatment kidney treatments says they have an offer her anywhere else to go yeah so she's waiting everybody here just still in a state of
"macarthur" Discussed on Entrepreneur on FIRE
"Into general douglas macarthur's farewell address to congress from april one thousand nine hundred nineteen fifty one mr president mr speaker and distinguished members of the congress i stand on on this arose trump with a sense of deep humility in great pride humility in the wake of those great american architects of our history who have stood here before me pride and the reflection that this is form of legislative debates represents human liberty in the purest form yet device here are centered the hopes and aspirations and faith of the entire human race i do not seeing here as an advocate for any partisan cause for the issues are fundamental and reach beyond the realm of parsing situation they must be resolved on the highest plane of national interest if our course is the proof sound and our future protected i trust therefore the you will do me the justice are receiving being that which i have to say as solely expressing the consideration viewpoints of a fellow american i address you with neither ran core nor bitterness in the feeding twilight in my life but with one purpose in mind to serve my country the issues are global in so interlocked that to consider the problems of one sector oblivious to those of another another is to court disaster for the whole while asia is commonly referred to as the gateway to europe it is no less true that europe is the gateway the asia and the broad influence of the one cannot fail to have its impact on the other there are those who claim our strength is inadequate to protect on both fronts and that we cannot divide our efforts i can think of no greater expression of defeatism if a potential enemy can divide his strength on two fronts it is for us to counter his effort art the communist threat is a global one it's accessible advance in one sector threatens the destruction of every other sector you cannot appease or otherwise surrender to communism in an asia without simultaneously undermining efforts to halt its advance in europe beyond pointing out these general truisms i shall confine my discussion to the general areas of of asia before one may objectively assess the situation now existing there he must comprehend something of asia's passed in the revolutionary changes which have marred her course up to the present presence long exploited by the so called colonial powers with little opportunity to achieve any degree of social justice individual dignity or a higher standard senate of life such as guided by our own noble administration in the philippines the peoples of asia found their opportunity in the war just passed to throw off the shackles of colonialism and now see the dawn of new opportunity a here to for unfiltered dignity and self respect of political freedom mustering half of the earth's population and sixty percent percent of its natural resources these people are rapidly consolidating a new force both moral and material wish to raise the living standard and direct adaptations of the design of modern progress to their own distinct cultural environments whether wanted here so the concept of colonialism or not this is the direction of asian progress and it may not be stopped it is a corollary to the shift of the world economic frontiers as a whole epicenter of the world affairs to rotate back toward the area whence it started rooted in this situation it becomes vital that our own country orient its policies in consonance with the basic evolutionary condition rather than pursue a course blind to the reality algae that the colonial era is now past and the asian peoples covered the right to shape their own free destiny what they seek now is friendly guidance understanding and support not imperious direction the dignity of equality and not the shame of subjugation their prewar standard of life pitifully low is infinitely lower now now in the devastation left in wars wake world ideologies play little part in asian thinking in our little understood what the people strive for is the opportunity for a little more food in their stomachs a little better clothing on their backs a little firmer roof over their heads in the realization of a normal nationalistic urge for political freedom these political social conditions have but an indirect bearing upon our own national security but do form a backdrop tick and temporary planning which must be thoughtfully considered if we are to avoid the pitfalls of unrealism of more direct immediately bearing upon our national security are the changes wrought in the strategic potential of the the pacific ocean in the course of the past war prior there to the western strategic frontier on the united states lay on the literal line of the americas with an expose i learned ceiling extending out through hawaii midway in guam to the philippines that ceiling it proved not an outpost of strength but an avenue of weakness along which the enemy could in in did attack the pacific was a potential area of advance for any predatory force intent upon striking at the bordering land areas all this was changed by our pacific victory our strategic frontier then shifted to embrace the entire pacific ocean which became a vast mode to protect us as long as we held it indeed it acts as a protective shield for for all of the americas in the freelance of the pacific ocean area we control it to the shores of asia by a chain of islands extending in art from the aleutians to the marianna held by us and our free allies from this island chain we can dominate the sea air power and every as yannick port from vladivostok to singapore with seeing airpower in ev report as i said from vladivostok to singapore and prevent any hostile movement into the pacific any predatory attack from asia must be an amphibious thaddeus effort no amphibious force can be successful without control the sea lanes in the air over those lanes and his avenue of advance with naval and air supremacy and our our modest ground element to defend the bases any major attack from continental asia towards us or our friends in the pacific would be doomed to failure under such conditions the pacific civic no longer represents menacing avenues of approach for a prospective invader it assumes instead the friendly aspect of a peaceful lake our line of defense is the national one and can be maintained with minimum of military effort and expense it envisions no attack against anyone nor does it provide the bashes essential for offensive operations rations but properly maintained would be an invincible attack against the gresham the holding of this literal defense line in the western pacific is entirely dependent upon holding alling all segments thereof for any major breach of that line by an unfriendly power would render vulnerable to determine attack every other major segments this is a military the estimate to which i have yet to find a military leader who will take exception for that reason i have strongly recommended in the past as a matter of military urgency that under no circumstances must formosa fall under communist control for such an eventuality would a once threatened the freedom of the philippines and the loss of japan and might well force are western frontier back to the coast of california oregon and washington to understand the changes which now appear on the chinese mainland one must understand the changes in chinese character in culture culture over the past fifty years china up to fifty years ago was completely non homogeneous being a compartment into groups divided against each other the war or making tennessee was almost non-existent as they still fall the tenants of the confucian ideal of a pacifist culture at the turn of the century under the regime of chiang so lynn efforts towards greater homogeneity produced the start of a nationalist urge this was further and more successfully developed under the leadership of chiang kayce shack jack but has been brought to its great fruition under the present regime to the point that has now taken the character of a united nationalism of increasingly dominant aggressive tendencies hennessy's through these past fifty years that chinese people have thus become militarize in their concepts and in their ideals they now constitute excellent soldiers with competent staff and commanders this is produced a new dominant power in asia which i own purposes is allied with soviet russia but which in his own concepts and messes has become aggressively imperialistic period listrik with a less for expansion and increase power normal to this type of imperialism there is little of the ideological concept either one way or another and the chinese makeup up the standard of living is so low in the capital accumulation has been so thoroughly dissipated by war that the masses are desperate eager to follow any leadership which seems to a promise the alleviation of local stringencies i happen to beginning believed that the chinese communist support of the north koreans was a domino on their interests are at present isn't parallel with those of the soviet but i believe that the aggressiveness recently displayed not only toward korea but also an indo china and tibet in pointing potentially toward the south south reflects predominantly the same loss the expansion of power which is animated every would be conqueror since the beginning of time.
Adina Hoffman: Ben Hecht: Fighting Words, Moving Pictures
"I'm Michael Silver Blah this bookworm arm and today I'm very pleased to have as my guest. Adina Hoffman the Dina has written a life of the great almost mind boggling screenwriter Ben. Hecht the book has the Subtitle Fighting Words moving pictures this Ben Hecht had his. Oh would you say finger in so many tries He starts out now having moved with his family to the mid West as soon as he graduates from high school. He realizes this is. The college is not for him and he high tails it to Chicago where he becomes a very well-known newspaper this paper Man Song well known that his adventures in the newspaper business but come perhaps the most is famous play ever to be written about newspapers that he wrote with Charles MacArthur. Yes called the front page. The the front page becomes his girl Friday with cary grant and Rosalind Russell and thereby hangs a tale every the time Ben Hecht turns around. There's a revision of something. He's done a new who've version of it by someone else that he in turn revise right even his own memoirs has multiple versions of what happened to him in his own life life. He's kind of astonishing. This came from the days when face at a writer wrote right. These were people who wrote all the time there's also literary life that Hecht has in Chicago and actually this was one of the fascinating things for me is where his kind of the big city You know newspaper world met the world of the Chicago Renaissance and a lot of the people who were in that newspaper world. People like Carl Sandberg. who was a really good friend of Heck's you know he was also a reporter and they were sort of Newspaperman by day and then by night they were writing their poems in their novels and Hecht was not only hanging around with people like Sherwood Anderson Jason and he was also publishing in the little review which is unbelievable magazine? Push some of the first chapters of James Joyce's ulysses and they felt. What was her name? Margaret Anderson Anderson felt that Ben Heck was every bit as much a member of of the little review says dream straight. And he's there on almost every single issue. He was a kind of a pet of hers. He was sort of in love with her. She was unfortunately Very distracted by high art and she was also a lesbian was not interested in in that way but she loved him and she published him. Ben Has a great fiction writer. I mean he was. He fancied himself self novelist But he was very devoted to that calling but at the same time that he was writing. These very heavy breathing stories for Margaret Anderson. He was also writing he. He was whipping off these commercials stories for Lincoln at the smart set. HMO MINKIN was one of his heroes. Mencken was a cynic cynic and a sophisticated and he had every bit of hostility toward the dumb aspects of American culture. He was trying to make America smart op. He wrote fascinating essays sason books on the American language as opposed to British. We don't get an American writer per se until until Mark Twain who's writing the Mississippi River. Talk that he learned when he was a boatman. Well by the time you've got the middle of the country Chicago you've got gangsters you've got prohibition you've got flappers you've got an American language wood jr that was invented here and Hecht loved. -actly yeah and I think for me. That was one of the wonderful things about spending time with him. I was reading. This book was spending time with his language. I mean whatever you WANNA say about. Whether his books are wonderful books or not so wonderful books he was a wonderful maker of sentences and paragraphs graphs and just terrific wit on top of it and he and Macarthur wrote the front page. which was kind of Valentine to that newspaper World of Chicago? You go where they've both been cub reporters you see. He comes in to the newspaper office. Writing these things. In Extreme Telegraphy Telegraphy as as you quote them right they are made of twenty three delight phrases. He's putting them together hurling them together and eventually he's going to have some fame as the newspaper Komo's rining calms every every day made up of just what he heard some Hobo say right or what some very wealthy people were saying in a casino no to be a writer then will start out as journalists. That's where Hemingway starts. He proposed this idea of. But this daily column that you've mentioned which would become known as a thousand and one afternoons in Chicago and they're kind of remarkable pieces they're just little snippets and there's a sense that the news is not just test the news of the grant headline it's also all these sort of marginal lives and people. You know the guy who runs the laundromat and the woman who works as a manicurist and has to fend off her lecherous clients. There's a way in which he's tossing this stuff off in a very casual way reading them daily. They're published on the back page of the newspaper next to the to the comic strips and he's not taking them too seriously or taking himself too seriously and there's so much better than the fiction into which he was pouring his all of his artistic ambition. That just is not the effective whereas these things that he was doing kind of on the fly as you say they're wonderful and they're incredibly generous and sympathetic. You feel him identifying with all of the city of Chicago In a way they kind of anticipate the work of later colonists people like beat Hamill and Jimmy Breslin. Who would become more famous in a way for doing doing that? who may also by now have been forgotten but act. was doing that early on. I'm talking to Adina Hoffman about. Don't her book Ben. Hecht its subtitle fighting. Words moving pictures and it's published in the Jewish writers series series published by Yale University. Press you mention that a lot of these people have been forgotten even people more recent Jonathan head so why Ben Hair. Well IT'S A. It's the question that I get all the time. And it's a good question and I mean basically at some level I feel like I've known Ben Hecht before before I knew Ben Hecht if you grow up watching American movies. He's his words are in your head even if you've never heard his name and so and I used to watch a lot of old movies as a kid but it was only when I became more conscious conscious and started to read about film history I actually worked as a film critic throughout most of the ninety s Then I was very aware of who Ben Hecht was and I I read his wonderful memoir child trial of the century. And I thought wow you know okay the movies he's known as you know. Pauline Kale called him the greatest American screenwriter Gianluca Dard said he invented eighty percent percent. Of what is used in Hollywood movies today called him a genius and all of that is true but the fact is that for heck the movies were really just a piece of it and in some ways they were actually may be one of the smaller pieces pieces of it in that memoir is full of all these other lives that we've just been talking about so I was first of all fascinated by that multiplicity of his the fact that he could contain multitudes dude but I also was drawn to heck in terms of his relationship to Jewish things. And here's a place where he basically an American Jew who claims not to have really paid much attention to the fact of his Jewishness until his consciousness was sort of raised by the Holocaust there. He's been in Chicago. He knows the woman. Editing the little review he knows call Sandberg. He knows Sherwood Anderson he moves to New York becomes friends with Herman Mankiewicz Herman Mankiewicz and also the roundtable tape Dorothy Parker and Benchley and S J Perelman and the Algonquin New Yorker Gang. He he moves to Los Angeles. He does what's so many do he has nothing but contempt damned for the people who started the motion picture industry. You say that you're interested in Hicks. Judaism with those were hits Jews. He didn't like them. There are a lot of Jews in heck's life he was actually born on the lower east side and he spent the first few years of his life. There and I don't actually think that that's Unimportant I mean. He grew up in Racine Wisconsin. which is this pastoral American American place etc but there is a way in which those tenements were in him in a very deep
Sesame Street to launch Arabic-language show for refugee children to help them deal with trauma
"When you're talking with your family and friends at your table this weekend. What are you GONNA be talking? Yeah well I have a three year old daughter and a five year old son and so we will be talking a lot about sesame street this week which celebrated its golden anniversary anniversary. Did you watch this mystery as a kid I did. Yeah Jessica what about you absolutely. And who are your favorite characters. I was always partial to Mr snuffle up this big bird's imaginary best friend and go what about you. I did love big bird a lot. And Ernie and Bert really really were probably my favorites. Though actually wonderful and I was dismayed to find out recently watching it with my children that Mr Smith Aleph guess is no longer I quote unquote quote figment of big birds imagination. Everyone sees him. It was very disappointing to the ranks of the real monsters. Wow that's like saying the tooth fairy doesn't exist well. My favorite character was kermit the frog especially his portrayal of TV news reporter which should come as no surprise But I might soon have a new favorite character and his name is John. John has been introduced to children will be introduced to children in Syrian refugee camps as has one of them he is the Star of Alan Simpson or welcome sesame an Arabic language version of sesame street that has been co produced by sesame workshop and the the International Rescue Committee it teaches letters and numbers. Yes but it also teaches emotional coping measures for the millions. Yes millions of children who have been traumatically they displaced from their homes and may remain displaced for decades especially as countries like the United States. Continue to cut the number of refugees at allows in twelve million Elian refugees. Twelve million six million of them are children and those are the stats get this only two percent of humanitarian aid for education in For refugees two percent and so once again sesame street has come to the rescue just as it did in the late nineteen sixty s when it first debuted John his friend Bosma and Friendly Goat Maza debut in twenty countries across the Middle East in February twenty twenty via satellite dishes in the refugee camps. And from time to time there will be guest appearances by Cookie Monster Grover and elmo. I have to say cookie monster was one of my favorites as well. The project is funded with a one hundred million dollar grant from the Macarthur Foundation and the grant also covers direct services to the families whose children have never been outside the camps and therefore they don't know fundamentals that we take for granted such as imagination or basic information like fish. Come from the sea while the focus will be more on emotional tools these fundamentals annals will also be covered as well and I really do applaud sesame workshop for taking this project on and I say. AJC is also exploring new ways to reach out to The era world in the Arabic language. And we'll be hearing more about that in the months to come but this project in particular is just really fascinating to me. And that's what we'll be talking about at our Table
Biggest U.S. milk producer goes bankrupt
"Might you know the advertising campaign got milk apparently not the nation's biggest milk producer dean foods filed for bankruptcy today CBS news correspondent Norah o'donnell the company which also owns macarthur Derry has been struggling as Americans pass up milk in favor of juice soda and milk alternatives milk consumption in the US has dropped more than forty percent since nineteen seventy
"macarthur" Discussed on Short Wave
"Mm-hmm so every year the Macarthur Foundation quick disclosure a comic book about a Cute Little Fish Call Joe Jacobi go these are these fish they're born in rivers they migrate to the ocean and spawned Louis their line for logging or mining activities or whether they'll they'll keep it protected for themselves in their next generation you know okay so is a science communication nerd series her work throughout my career always felt like I was going through school there was always pressure to try to narrow the scope of taking this approach that's kind of interdisciplinary or transdisciplinary it inspires creativity because you're getting this diversity of perspectives and viewpoints be baked into global climate models and projections for what will happen with ice sheets and you know what this made me realize what is it make you realize that it's a small all world after all in the sciences no actually made me realize that you need a lot of disciplines right putting their heads together to answer the big questions especially when it comes to Emmett Science. At least that's how Andrea are geologist in Wisconsin season. We can't do this job alone science is a team sport and we need to have all these different disciplines and perspectives to get to the answer is that we are seeking both Stacey Andrea said. They're thinking about using part of their Arthur money to create a scholarship fund some kind for the next generation of scientists then is very beautiful.
Meet Two MacArthur 'Genius Grant' Scientists
"All right kwong scientists show and tell tell me about our geologists Andrea Dutton well we described Andrea as like a CSI investigator of sea level rise but I would also consider her a time traveler to she looked specifically for fossil coral goals from this period called the last interglacial one hundred twenty five thousand years ago Oh so bp what before the podcast gone it's terrible joke anyway last interglacial earth was a little warmer than it is now and her work suggests that oceans were twenty to thirty feet higher than they are today Whoa yeah and by gathering data from the last time Earth got the swarm the last interglacial win ice sheets melted and sea levels rose Andrea can offer insights into how it could all go down in our present day okay that that is very cool and seems relevant Is there anything interesting that she's learned so far okay well Andrew told me about this one trip to the Seychelles this island nation in the Indian Ocean where her team found fossil corals at a really high elevation really high and that freaked her out why's that that's because Andrea new in that moment that in order for the corals have been that high for the ocean who've risen to that point put them there the Antarctic ice sheet must have been melting at that time that's the the single biggest massive ice on earth so when we got this result in the Seychelles I did walk away from the outcrop and I sat down on the beach and I thought myself you know what people are not going to like this because I knew right away meant that in artists have contributed a lot of ice melted and that was not good news for our future because it means that we may be headed in the same direction meaning the Antarctic icesheet may melt and contribute to sea level rise in the same way in our time so we have some clarity on what the future could look like because Andrea is traveling back in time to gather this information from oceans in the ancient past I'm into it I'm nervous about it but I'm into it yeah okay so tell me about the other Macarthur winner tell me about Stacey Stacey Jupiter I'm forty three years old and I'm the Melania director with the Wildlife Conservation Society Melanesia is a region in the Pacific Ocean home to all these island nations Fiji where she's located Papua New Guinea the Solomon Islands just to name a few the water is just beyond her doorstep and I'm trying to get out as much as I can and take my three year old son out as well we love to go for puddle and just show him the crabs on the seawall and we'd go look for sea snakes or raise that might scoot off as we go over them so it's a nice place just to look out and be inspired by the Marine Environment Fiji is spread across three hundred islands stacey lives in the capital Suva where she thinks a lot about how to work with locals around conservation okay how does she do well she not only looks at the hard science of what's happening to say the fish the coral reefs but the environmental factors human activity to for her conservation means not only protecting the land but the people who live on continuing their need for sustainable jobs access to natural resources their physical health or mental health sometimes this looks like formal programs other times it looks like this Oh okay this is my favorite type of sites communication what you're watching is a youtube clip of one hundred twenty five people disco dancing in the streets of Suva organized this flash mob with the motto Moran eggs more fish like all flash they're calling on the government to protect areas where fish come together to reproduce they're kind of like discos okay this frenzy of fish movement as they release their eggs and that's why it was a disco inspired flash mob this is some solid science outreach right here so fun that's not all Stacey has done she's commissioned a comic book why is she having so much fun during science I did not have this much fun well it's because you didn't help commission back in the river so they have this epic journey they come across all these obstacles on the way and to explain this whole process to kids she created a comic book called the adventures of Joe Jacobi he's a little bit precocious he gets lost from the rest of his school and he ends up having to go back upstream with this kind of crazy inventor scientists crab and his sidekicks now and through the story of them trying to get upstream defined his home they encounter all of the different hazards of human impact all along the way like fishing and dams and river sediment and then the Wildlife Conservation Society's Fiji program which Stacey used to run turned the comic book into a puppet show routed to schools and kids loved it I was onboard until puppets got involved you would love this matty in the moment right after the DOJ Gobi puppet encounters Barracuda are you sure it's just not them screaming because there's nobody knows the mysteries of children all the kids were given river-monitoring kits afterwards with the idea of encouraging there virtue of the land one day as adults indigenous people have tenure over about eighty seven to ninety eight percent of all of the land in Melanesia until it re the is those kids when they grow up they're the ones who will be looking after the place because they they own the land and they have the rights to say whether or not they're going to sleep this is pretty amazing like the level of creativity here and engagement and fun I am all for this sands puppets yeah over the phone in before our interview Stacy said to me look I'm trained in science but what moves people is stories each creativity is a big part of how she approaches commercialisation and your field and try to stay within one field and say you are the expert on this one particular topic but for myself I always didn't rebelled against that I really wanted to be more of a generalist and able to look across disciplines across different habitats and I think that and that's what's needed stacy's to tackle these seemingly intractable global problems stacey and Andrea they work on opposite sides of the world but they know each other and Andrea actually works with another macarthur fellow in this cohort Jerry Metro Rica at Harvard he interprets her data about corals so that it can