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GSMC Women's MMA Podcast Episode 39: Armbars and Opportunities

GSMC Women's MMA Podcast

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GSMC Women's MMA Podcast Episode 39: Armbars and Opportunities

"Need Your daily fix of women's mixed martial arts from the UFC INVICTA FC Bella tour, and one championship be in the Luke. Has Golden state media concepts. Got You covered get your fixing women summa may we've got? You covered on golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast? Thank you for tuning into the GS MC woman's MMA podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network. I am your host are now and hopefully you are doing wolf. You. Your friends or family what do you live in the states or if nationally I hope you are doing something a time of major uncertainty steady. Say Wash your hands. Don't destroy other people's properties seriously. Business they're closing the reclosing things are getting a little bit Shakey. Time things are also being kind of stable especially, not sports basketball seems prickly is seems fine. The clear any else you liquefying clearer now we can't expect audience members coon back in full potentially early to mid twenty twenty one. That's the sad reality of things. That's not me McCain educated guesses coming in from Adam. Silver. The commissioner for the NBA and that's with himself saying, yeah. Don't expect fans during staple people people actually being there till like twenty twenty one. The sad reality. But you know what? We're going to get our sports. Still we're still seeing these athletes going out there putting their lives on the line performing at the very best of their ability in order to entertain us to make the money. So. There was no woman's fight in the main card for the AFC. Two to three two events. But there was once performance here and that was fleas Herod Against Bernardino robot that happened as combing event for the premium, Card. Verna Jenner Roba before this even happened before this happened when it was announced will be journal rugged spelled fleece. Herod I thought to myself. This is GonNa be an impressive performance by General. Every single time I see general bill come into my screen on like this woman is going to pull out one the best form of entire night and this night she did on a bedroom influence herod. So. Come into the fights I knew okay. John Roba. She's picked to win this. I. Think She's going to have a real star performance and she did. She won she. She WanNa. Fight won via arm bar submission first round one minute and forty four seconds in submission arm victory per vernon robot winning the fight. She is now sixteen and one in our overall mixed martial arts career. I flag for vinegar over there she had a really good strong performance. So fight laid out here. Let me see the fight sats. So Fleas Herod. Land One, hundred percents of our total strikes. All three of them. She wanted more than two percents. Of Her significant strikes, all one of them. Now then. Roeder of she goes in their. Total Strikes Huelva fifteen. Significant strikes four of five. Verna rable only needed one take down. These women were going at it take down you mealy. Those in for arm bar submission by on was grappling game. So pretty look at choose able to go through her transition. So smoothly so is so quick. That everytime I see you like a fighter going for down they slowly after make the way in from four guard half guard, second troll and tip amount. No d'oro takedown full guard goes into side guard then goes mealy into full mount within the span of this thirteen seconds. Beautiful absolute. Stellar to watch their. So VERNA general. But she does end up getting a performance of the night bonus the. Exact number. It probably is two thousand dollars how Sonoma gets it but oh, so Virgina does end up getting a submission of the night bonus in a performance tonight bonus. So which I'm sure a couple of quick money they're. Good for good. By Vernet this coming from a May. Junkie. Has a unique reason why she wanted a quick win over Fleece Sarah. And Still Uraba a she'd be herrick at USC typically to Las Vegas General on the fights key moments. Showing say as everybody knows I'm a Brazilian jujitsu specialist. As I said in an interviews I had a plan a or plan B. Plan a works. General Bond tried to have quick finish. I'd imagined to anybody about this before. But during Camp I had a little bit of problem I lost my front teeth and I didn't want to lose them again. So I tried to make it as quick as possible. General on what she wants necks. Voice was ranked. So hopefully, come next week I'm rank I. Think this may be made a testament. wrote this made me Mega Statement Division hopefully, the UFC is going to look with some more caring is to me give me a top down opponents just someone rank top five who knows whatever they want to give me I'll be happy with it but if I could keep on climbing the rankings that would be great as far as named goes I'm just really focus on getting onto the rankings so Where is available I? Am More than happy to make them on to take them on as as time frame I could buy tomorrow honestly. I. Didn't take that much damage. Maybe next week I think I have a mandatory suspension or something as soon as that's done army to fight the smudges have not been put up there. We don't know what is mentioned could be but right now she looks perfectly fine. She sees him find I don't if Hannah ciphers if Hannah frigging ciphers able to somehow go out there and compete three times despite game knocked out twice. I'm pretty sure general can do so. The milk the it's in the women's charter rankings right now, which is has to be the deepest division in all the AFC right now. Where does General Bo place yourself and because there's a lot prospects in the rankings. On definitely a lot in the. Summer. Now, looking start rankings here I'm trying to find gender robot. Here. Looking at here we have. She could fight against. Carolina Wallich's. Think that's the best metrics afar. Because we have Amana reboots WHO's out there I don't think she'd WanNa fight against somebody like John and Rebecca. We have ran Marcos Chevy finding some Kennedy, dern coming up on the coming up in the AFC three show. So mcinerney against random marcus in the fifty three show. We Angela Hill gives Michelle Waterson also Grasso Against Gio Kim. TC Tour is doesn't have matchup here. Marina Rigas. She's coming off a loss against Ba- Marinari does shed a really good showing. It's cost. The rankings. One through five and then six through ten or six fifteen is anyone's game but fifteen is comprised of a lot of really good fighters. The six, hundred fifteenth spot six, fifteen for the yes he woman start rankings is very deep comprised. A lot of fighters coming off you know like win streaks we got a lot of fires coming off losses with impressive like all the loss really impressive still like Marina Rigas analytics, Grasso they both have very good fights against Sparta flaws but still showing there. I think right now for Bernie General by. A good match for her would be Carolina. Wallich's. Then purple perfectly for this because Carolina doesn't have the grappling ability to match Brennan Roba and also Carolina striking has been pretty much on the downturn for a couple of years. Now, she's coming off a three fight losing streak right now. So in terms. General and counterpart ranked number fifteen right now so. She Fights Carolina. And then she can go 'cause. I understand viewpoint that she wants to fight somebody in the top ten. Brian now it's. There's so many sponsor now they're up in the air from six to ten. that it's hard to displace John Robot up in the front. Then the only way general book can really be placed in the as a front runner to fighting within like six ten spot is if so many things are going her way and her parents are willing to go find somebody as lower ranked as General General Bob is a low rank fighter who is good enough to fight against clinic Adele who was good enough to as raw who is good enough to fight against regnery guests. Six fifteen is so deep the any woman can if each other, there's not a huge. Difference. Or differential between how good? Oh, fighter whose ranking six or was ranked number thirteen or twelve. It's that deep. It really is if I was young Roba I would say okay. Things that are getting really right now in the top ten August. Carolina. Koala mix. And from that from then on I am thinking I'm guaranteed by somebody in the top ten. And, it could be guest Yongxin or click. Adela. I could see quite a Adela if she were to. Yeah. So. And you are fighting. On my birthday also, Seattle glad they're fighting against each other and whoever loses that fights will still be within the top ten. Then, they get to fight either Marinari. Or Alexa, Grasso and. Now. There are so many names out there and there's so many prospects. In the fighters who are losing right now are still really good fighters like Michelle Waterson, she should've data call as far as. And Actually Angela Hill. And that is a complete toss up in the air. Geo Kim. is a really seller fighter. The problem is you Kim though is that? You know she just can't make weights. So it's what's next year for general. Blah I honestly don't know she has a long way to go until retreat to the top five right now, and this is mostly a case of. The division is so stacked that you have to prematurely in line. That's sad. Reality of things here. But I'm looking at the. Looking at the woman striking's right now. Among the top six nother matched up anytime soon and so this So, just I think just the job was meant to WHO innocent android supposed to buy next. Because it's going to be. Rosena. While Zhang. That's the next major. Yes he wants happening here. But. There are rumors she's finding somebody much lower in the rankings at her. But that's not really the case She's GonNa say there. I'm still Tatyana answer both them had been unavailable for a while. I'm surprised they're still ranked the as five and six because both of them had been pretty much not available for a year or two. And Quality and cost spars that could be the next potential matchup. And I could see them getting their just barely in the top five if Dillard to win her fights. Yeah. We'll start division very deep, very stacked, and that's why I'm really excited about it I. Really Am Willie Jiang and Rosena Eunice that fight is a fight of the year contender waiting to happen only probably now though is you know toby? Traveling issues being a real thing Rosena. Is Developing the second winner career now where she feels super confident about herself. she didn't look good in that third round just GonNa draw but she looked really awesome per second round and when you hear these talking about herself in her training now she has a lot of confidence built in first off that. I'm happy to see rose being like, yeah man I'm ready to go. Totally considering that Rosen was gonNA fight Zhang a couple months ago. So we'll have so you not. Book It. You want a discount droid that's match up to see over win stat. Find is GonNa find either well aging or Rosa Munis on you WANNA teach at shears suffer says that he only wants a title fight next. Is Understandable as to why you would say she only wants to that only. You WanNa Cormet are both all time greats in their respective divisions. They're both guaranteed to be future hall of famers. So it's Just like Dominick Cruz, well, look at my accolades on title fights. I'll honestly don't like that. I don't I don't like fighters who user accolades to prove as to why they should be buying themselves in into a title fights John. Jones is going to do that. Let heavy champion. We're not the him go through JD ASS or over ream, or this is a Chi- his fight immediately the champion. And for you eight check. She can. She probably will play hardball with the? What longest reigning longest reigning women's champion of all time I am the goats of the division I felt that dot longer than anyone else defend the belt more than anyone else I've competed more than anyone else in the strawberry division. So automatically should be how fights all the time. I don't like that because of how deep the division is. It's only fair for you wanted to at least get one win one goodwin before she fights against rose or Jiang also considering how how repressive just GonNa was in force was Muniz. Yeah. You WanNa draw green matchup I'm saying you want to change it is going to win that match up. This because the size difference here is if there wasn't adequate division, if there was a UFC woman's division, just dropped it and Michelle waterson would tear everyone up. Without a doubt they are that good and they fight one division bidding they actually should fighting and so if just man, this should be adequate division I stole the other women's division is completely open. The right now in identified himself has said that he wants to go push specifically towards the battle of division he wants to fill all that up. And also coming in from the Container Series Dino has offered twelve new UFC contracts. So we have twelve new UC fighters. We have twelve fighters coming into the AFC and he warns that there will be you know people being laid off. There'll be people coming up for contracts zoom and I wouldn't be surprised if we see fighters who have competed in the women's Federal Division August Graf from the from the AFC. Sad, but that's the reality. And so you're listening to MC. Woman's May podcast coming back Rob Bradford break here. See assume. Check out the show that's built on the MMA from UFC two extreme cage fighting. But they got the fights covered check out GMC m a podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights join us as we've talked to and about some of the biggest names in MMA past present and future. When it's the fight game, there's just one show to check out GSFC podcast dot com back slash M Dash podcast. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visagie GS MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Are you looking for the very best nfl and college football podcast. Then check out GSM see football podcast get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GMC podcast, DOT, com, backslash footfall, dash podcasts, get updates, college rivalries, key insights, and much much more. It's talked the way you want it this show each sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to link on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes. M. C. PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO. We are back. So I'm happy for general. She's making way up in the rankings here that women start rankings is very deep. What else is going on the world of women's mixed martial arts were I've been talking about Ben's. For a couple of weeks now. Even astounded. The I'm being outweighs. I'm astounded the. Page of. Consumer the then has a record of five and four it if she always pops in my feet and is a very representative of a lot of aspects in the arts here. So it is come infrom bloody elbow dot com. Page. multi-million dollar boxing contract explained beyond her four fight deal with KFC, it's still bothers me. That bareknuckle fighting championship names be KFC. Barbecue Kentucky Fried, chicken whatever. It sounds like vendettas poise to commentary and broadcast roles with the promotion as well. When rumors spurs circulating, Zenit wasn't talks with bare knuckle boxing be KFC fan skeptical. We're skeptical while her emmy career had hit some sizable speed bumps event still one of 'em as most notable performers. was she really going to jump ship to a whole different sports not to mention as an athlete who had carved celebrity status were there run on dancing with the stars and who has recently been working to put yourself into other reality shows a movie bareknuckle finding seem like an incredibly risky choice given the heavy amounts of static damage. The sport can cause four pages that however, it doesn't sound like she's concerned about getting dinged up and competition. Occur on your face always heels offend told emery fighting I've been cut open before and people still thinking pretty and it wasn't. It hasn't hurt my career yet for me it comes down to just being an athlete and promotion that sparked my passion. Obviously, we did have some huge players in the game we had really offers all over the place. De offered her a contract I'm pretty sure but the offer that excited me and the promotion excite me the most the most was this one because it's something that's new. It's exciting. I'm excited to have the passion to fire back the virus back in me as an athlete my family was nervous about anywhere went. So truly whatever I want to do and it wasn't a thought for me to get cut open I at this point, I'll be paid well, enough. I can have politics surgery I have a plastic surgeon I'm need on speed dial and I can send them a text and said, hey can you pick me up At that carefree demeanor is an offer from be KFC. BE KFC President David Feldman. There may have been too good for twelve turn down. She won't just be getting paid for expected four fights in the promotion she'll also became. Joe's beginning more opportunities to grow her personality. It's a multi million dollar deal and we're not even talking the sprinkles. Cherry's that go on top of the Sunday vans. That's said mocking. And along Arthur, reports of the former years will also be doing commentary and other broadcasting word for be KFC. Dave strong offer. It's a four fight deal. So something crazy. It's a four or five deal Dave I sat and planned out these four fights on how they should look when they should be when they should be where we're. This should be an over the course of the next sixteen to eighteen months and I think that if everything goes the way that we expected to go between the three of US page Dave and myself multi-million will turn even bigger than that sixteen to eighteen months for flights within the span of a year and a half patrons and will be making. Multi. Within a year and a half, she'll be making more bank off a year and a half the she did in her years being the other four years you there for five years. Here's the thing I'll be honest with you me Dave came to a lot of agreements on this contract and one of them is going to bare knuckle boxing. I, said absolutely just as she would've Seinfeld with Delta or or one or the it'd be an exclusive agreements. The one that Dave did allow us to do was anything MMA or boxing, which includes per wrestling or grappling any of that other stuff home pro wrestling definitely. I call it ultimately some. Happy to having her chance to go grow Juan. Making all the money for herself I'm happy. I definitely do not agree with the idea that it's a risk for patrons and to do some bareknuckle fighting you know why? Because he was doing If you watch any appearance fights. Yes. He's pull off some impressive submission victories but for the most part she prefers striking. All right. She's a strategy I by the last place. Page bids at once the be at is on the ground rushing with somebody. We saw her performance against. Amanda Rebuffs. Bell rings bullfighters Mean Octagon. takedown Vanden stood no chance. Bateman has some you know she has a base level of grappling. But. Nowhere near top of the elites enters nowhere shooting grapple with. Okay. So. She's a striker. WHO PREFERS STRIKING She can grapple with somebody who doesn't have to grapple. So I've got boxing buddies. If page president were to take them down, should rabble them. She could probably to them. But now put patrons and again somebody who also knows how to grapple who also exceptionally really well with wrestling. And in the clinch. Howard page present do against something like. Patriots and she can wrestle somebody who can wrestle because she was somebody who goes Ken Russell back. At the highest level no. and. So for my point of view, it was a smart idea for patients to go towards bareknuckle boxing because now for training camp training up, we'll be a lot more simplified. You'll be more easy. Paid benign she's not to worry about kicks. She didn't have to worry about somebody Clinton her she doesn't have to worry about somebody grappling her. She didn't have to worry about submissions. She doesn't have to worry about take downs. Somebody you know patrolling her or getting under back going renamed joke. No. She didn't have to worry about any of that at all in Berdnikov fighting all you do is pretty box in page presents can box really really offer herself. Not only that she also be expanded beyond that doing commentary doing more work I still remember paid. When she said when she was interview where she says, She's speaking an estimated one, twenty thousand dollars per fights. Yeah, she's making one hundred and twenty thousand dollars per fights. Now, the into the world would be like well, she should be appreciative that she can. Knock Menon Oh. Here it is. Being a person who lives in California? Who's lived in southern California Muslims life as a person who's WHO's education background stems from their time in the San Francisco Brooklyn area nor cal Silicon Valley. Having friends who worked in the Silicon Valley having friends who work in. La. Tongue right now. One hundred twenty thousand dollars per year. If you if you don't live in California or you've never surpass. In her own career that is way that goes way above and beyond. A. Hundred Twenty thousand dollars is not a lot of money. I got I know many people who make one, hundred, twenty, thousand dollars for your now an I don't make a hundred twenty dollars per year I don't make that much money I don't. I make a good amount of money now rocking live but that's me. That's one. That's one I'm content with. But while there are some fighter's the core content with that not everyone is content making the bear American average of six thousand dollars for your. If you live in California, I talked about this in the other in GMC Emmy podcast, and then you know they live in Palo, Alto Area Palo Alto, new California, zone, that's. BS in the Mark Zuckerberg's are at. If you me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year. And you live in the Paulo Alter area, you considered average your basic your ordinary. Your ordinary simple basic human being if you live in the Paula. Delta Area Andrew Making, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per year a quarter of a million dollars per year. Now. I. D. A. Highly, highly doubts. That there is any. MMA. Fighter out there who lives in the area who resides in? No No. No. They're Cormie I can say, what did you just outside the San Francisco area? So it's like its own little zone. So it isn't really count as it's very northern. California is a split in its loans. Really. But you're not bugging guarantee you. A personal patrons, penzance who's supposed to be this huge big-time celebrity if she were to live in the heart of L. A. or hard silicon valley, she'd be average sheely basic and a lot of people out there who are fine with being contents. Not Everybody is buying with that. People have bigger aspirations really do so I am wondering percent on board for. Fighters athletes like page bans who are able to go and make the most out of the opt to that there are given. Here's the thing with Dana white the needs. They, don't. Mixed martial arts. It's not a career. It's an opportunity. Some agree. Some don't agree. All right then. But all because it's an opportunity. It doesn't mean you should be paid chump change. Now what your definition changes is different from my definition of chump. Change. All right then. Asian American I know people who me and my family and we always look up networks of people every single day we always looking to network up to block the rock. We always look people are gonNA worth of like you know Rashid Khan. He's a he's a huge celebrity from India who makes six hundred million dollars a year. Yeah. People have different aspirations. Now I get the idea of like patrons and shit like. I'm reading reports. Like painfully that should be humbled that she even made six figures in the AFC and you what's you know life is a grinded my hustling all right making as much money as he possibly can and page is doing that and not only the she's okay. So she's making more millions. Because apparently multi millions in the span of a year and a half just primarily working for Bella tour. I mean for. For bareknuckle boxing. And it's also being reported by Corey Anderson. Who just recently left? Here's a top. The Telecom tender for the left the secret Anderson went to Balladur and he says he's making a lot lot more money in Baltimore. He'll have his own sponsors he gets to go promote a brand. He gets to put himself out there more. He gets more opportunities and he said himself that it's more important for me to make money than it is to go get three letters. You have. In pro right before championship. He cares more about the he cares more about those figures popping into his bank account more. So than three letters was a inquiry Anderson UFC fighter. It happens that's how it is I'm happy about this. I am all for for for. For. This movement of fighters because it's very outdated now I it's ridiculous that NBA players NFL athletes athletes are all Ford for supporting other for pushing for maximum. In the C.. Can. You Imagine Kobe Chill, Seddon or Ben? Aspirin. Or Kamar being like, yeah horror vow you make your money. Congratulations. University that ever- You, you see all these athletes. Is Pick on each other via twitter instagram social media? And like whatever about it, I have never seen ever ever one fighter support another fighter for the future endeavors or for contract negotiations or supporting another fighter. Inner contractual negotiations in the NBA up player was offered seventy million dollars. For a three year contract. Seventy million dollars over, three years. Seventy million there is no enemy athletes? In the world who who can come close to getting a contract like that not even close. If. An enemy promoter were to offer him a contract that's came in we should be humble should be appreciative of making. Hundred and fifty thousand dollars per fights. With the man who has offered seventy million dollars he fired his manager. He fired his manager, his agent because he felt embarrassed that he was making such little money seventy million dollars. I wish there is a time in the I wish the future. That moment will come. Where somebody said somebody. Offers. Fighter contract and the Black No. Let's chump change and I want that to happen to the biggest athletes out there I want. I want the Congress I want the John Jones people like you know what? Nah. Money's chump change. No should up. That's chump change all because you think trump doesn't mean I believe it's trump I leave it's not chump change right? I'm out of here. I. Am all for player athlete movements we should be no matter what your viewpoint is on page present in that she's she's just a pretty face. In mixed martial arts, she's taking advantage of attractive looks. We should always be supportive of fighters being able to make as much money as it can in organization that doesn't pay their athletes all that well. That's what I believe. 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So let's go you talking about that rescheduling and scheduling of women's fights coming up. So I hear you gotTA fight coming up for August twenty one or two, forty, four events being deleted. But again, it's just just meal and the day right after that we have obviously to yes fight night. What Michelle Waterson. Angela. Hill Red Paulo Brazil shared adoption Mizuki Annoy gets Manda Lemos. I'm incredibly excited for Michelle Waterson Angela Hill and my opinion I think that two fighters who. I believe is credited really should and react to me is a fighter that. Everyone should look for the next big. Using I believe ACA POGBA is in the same mobile APP Sean o'malley in terms of potential. On that higher on. And that she has all the physicals and the natural and she's only twenty one years old she has all everything it takes for to you know. Really go far into the. As now, the Fight Division is pretty much you know. It's not it's not all the healthy. Valentine's outs and every time they try to push another female pirate in the I'd originally always end up being stopped by Kimchi Kagan so that vision isn't healthy. Jillian barberie suggesting meal Julia Budd is she's came. She's right now in the middle of Canada talking about race issues going right now. Really good for but I'm really happy for that. She's really passionate about you know pushing for anti-racism in candidacy right now because Canada. We ran factor Canada has like. Is Far back compared to America in terms of its interracial relationships in the ratio of interracial relationships are happening in candidate is far less than one percent something like one point something percent expertise african-american. Out there, but there's a huge push pushback Asian the white people. It's very similar to America in. Agents and Michael are the most predominant interracial worship out there. Even. There are a lot more agents that live. I don't live in Canada I know can very. Canada I think in the grand scheme of things a lot of aging population there is huge in our reputation. There it is. In America. There is smaller presentation of Asians in the South and in the East Coast. Because Most Asians specifically because I'm flipping mostly reside in this area or in the Irvine, zone in sound California joke saying like if you threw a banana being the air, it would hit in Asia person UCI. Yeah. They'll probably happen no matter where you look is A lot of people UCI. That's I'm going to go for that but Canada it's very, very weird spots in that people held as his place for like. Little racism going on, which is true by the but the same sense, there's still some interest happening in the country so Julia budd she's pushing toward her husband are advocating they're they're making their voices out there'd be ended helping communities so good for them. Really Good I. Once again, Julie Buds fight it will be meal Coming Up August Twenty First Baltimore to four, which is going to be taking place on a Friday while the August second. Show is going to be taking place on. The day after should be offering to on a Saturday. Also. If there has been changed mobile times. Alexa Grasso Zero Kim these. Fight this month. They're also meant to fight two months ago. Aggressive jerk in their fight has mixed and matched. So many times now literally lost count that every time I get to this podcast I'm talking hey. Grasso Jim Unified each other when is going to happen. So Young Kim though she. S source potential to make a bridge the rankings. The promise Jimbo is I think this'll be. She's gone through to fights at cash tweets. It's two or three, but she. She struggles mightily as it pertains to cutting weight and making the actual like we cut going down so If Gio Kim so it. Cut goes all wells stuff. I'm happy that's what I'm aiming for your I'm worried about Kim's wake up more of the else. And I was happening and the August three nine. You'll see frightening events we have Hannah my girls typers against Mallory Martin congratulations for Hannah's ciphers still pushing it. He's trying he's trying to push it. So I can't ciphers. I don't believe she's going to go far in the NFC, but she's making a whole lot of money. And I always like it when the fighters are able to make the most of what the cat into career amick a lot of money. And so I did say Michelle Waterson Angela Hill, but sally that fight just got rescheduled. This literally just popping right now that Michelle Waterson Angela Hill there is scheduled for September, twelfth instead. And Those to their fight is going to be delayed but. You can't really change. Kogan bring a really you can. You can't predict the stuff you just can't. Also another one up five of. The bags it gets Johnson so is getting more announcements over here. We have Ariana Lipsky. Co targeted at USC to five in November and exciting fly matchup is in the works for fifty five on. November twenty one. Violence Queen Lipsky expects basically it's Antonin Shevchenko who was interior may career. I thought it'd be better I think you just give us the undefeated and she dropped like tour fights aches lift. He's coming up. A is winning me barts emission over the WARNACO in. July. Really impressive. Honestly I have never heard a scream that loud because this she pulled up, she was able plea bender, her opponent's leg. Past her head. and. It was so loud that I think the people who have been commentator it was like oh my gosh I xe. After drop her first two appearances. The former case divided champion is ready to fight win streak meanwhile. Anti, we'll be sharing the car with her younger sister renting fires champion Guarantees Tanko is currently two and two in the coming up unanimous decision loss to kill Kagan in May. Not a good showing there is really not. Antonina came into the F. The defeated. Her striking is on. Point very great. Surely awesome but she's A. Man. Antonina she's. Is like. Her striking. So good. She has all the qualities for her. She has all the characteristics and the fighting style. In. The media push her being the sister of bounty. Now, she can go on and do great things in the NFC. But fighting against Lipsky. Is the bad choice, a Nina. Right, especially if AIG actually. Yes he events. Who are predicting this fight here? For a good, this record attendance is she does need to work on grappling because from what I aspire now coming off Lipsky Simpson victory. Bell Rings Antony is GonNA use her Richard Veg Lipsky says. He Says No, you know what? Because there's Laura Carolina had a significant size in week managed over Lipsky. Like we WANNA Carolina was fighting the way how should be fighting, and in fact, this is using her arm leg in a region of kickboxing to go and stop Lipsky from pressure. But that ends up Lipsky at all when you look at the physicals of the one, Carolina Anti Janko, very similar, very, very similar. So what stops so flips he. Antonin al-Qaeda and this is very similar to. Where a lot of Carolina long lengthy Rishi kickboxing fighter. I'm going to go in there and Shaneco has shown that she that she pretty much panics and she has her back on the wall as a producer fighting somebody who can grab her on the ground grappling isn't all that impressive? And so. Is My prediction here? She is going to go out and defeat anti Shaneco after either three rounds of action of grappling or by submission. But. Then again, I could be completely wrong here and. Might, have. Developed better ground skills because that's her week week every game and she might defending a takedown and you know who knows maybe she'll be grappler executing fight against. Lipsky here. Another fight being announced here is between Sarah Meraz Vanessa. Mellow important has been added to the upcoming card in November as Vanessa Mela who is ten inspector Sarah She's Meraz who is six and six. Mellow zero three in her three occupied appeared to most recently fought at one and July dropping decision to Carol Rosa prior to ending the FCC. Nineteen she was at a fight winning streak. Morales. Is One and four in her last fights she lasts competed into may dropping decision to Sierra eubanks. Generally, FC twenty thirteen Africa Pilon eightieth fighter, both these fighters must win. Both them must win upcoming fights or else they are going to be cut and also being appointed by himself. So Dana White offered twelve contracts. For fighters coming from the contingencies right now. And he says there will definitely be some kinds. There will definitely be some cuts coming over to the NFC A lot of are can be dropped twelve new fighters. That number is going to be increasing because the virus cutting back. He didn't still push for the connector series. He's GonNa. He's GonNa added more fighters coming in. Man. It's You, you have to fight for your career quite honestly because with somebody new fires come in. Dan. So. Right now, I'm curling looking at the UFC bathroom because that fighting's going to be ended Basilan rankings. We have Holly Home Risen did a coming up on October three dramatic rhadamanthus Julia opinion coming up to three. All love to see Holly. Home regimenting I. Think both both of them are going to come into the respective fights on the August on October three show as favorites hoover wins fight. And fight news again potentially. I BELIEVE GDR she be. At the forefront at fighting is as. And we have Julia opinion. Joy Opinions. Germain. Around me killer Vieira get my row can vera. Sierra eubanks mixing GSA NICO. Nicotiana on a hip van. Nick. spiders in that everyone? No. Enemies after everyone knows Nico Montano. For the most before the worst reason, and that is for being pretty much people champion. Nico Matana bounce back. She'll fight against Julian Avila and I want. To. Bounce back on her njit balanced back considering. The are put both of them are inaugural champions. GDR. Inaugural champion for the Federal Division. and He. Was The champion of the Flyer Division. Was a five or. Nickel Madonna was the champion for a week Class I. Forgot about that. But Dame two and number champions out there both of them one of them doing. That other one trying to balance herself back up. But we got two former champions trying to climb the way back up into being champion being captured again. So I'm excited for those fighters hopefully, Nico. NPDOR I'm pulling for both of them to go win their respective fights. And so it is being reported. Spencer's aiming for an early twentieth twenty turn in Watts. Nunez. Anderson next. So please Spencer isn't a rush to get back in the octagon fallen curry necessarily lost champion. Nunez BECCA. Back in June I'M GONNA take my time schedule news I also the see what's going on with the division I. Haven't seen any new bookings or so I'm going to take it easy. Technically in my medical smitten is until the middle of December. So I might write that out rather than trying to get clear too early. I had a few other injuries are kind of nagging now that since the fight that. Not Enough. Any good. So yeah, probably. No sooner than December I could even see myself coming back in January. That's my timeline. I'd be curious to see Menounos. Merson Megan, enersen honestly, I know I got the title track I by always kind of curious like styles may fight and I don't think I. Think it's a religion style matchup even though I feel like I would have been able to I'm at noon as with different decisions are made in the fights and I've a win over beginning Enersen, I still feel like every fight is a fresh fights and anything can happen anytime you fight somebody. I hope they continue to push other division Megan can either. Wow. Okay. So. Spencer. Is Supportive all of Megan Anderson Fighting Demand Nunez. Megan, Anderson was going to fight against Nunez. If Spencer was not available or Spencer two defeats I'm an actress specially defeated began. It'd be matchup I. Mean I don't mind. It's I wouldn't mind. Seeing the Enersen Savannah noon as it is right now. Feather rankings are so difficult to look into because a there's no official for the rankings are. Now we just have a plethora of women fighters out there who could be fighting against. The NFL right now. Me Enersen I say Tassir. Bantamweight Division Yeah Toss me get Enersen in the bathroom division. See how well she does then from then on, you can then go push narrative of Megan. Enersen deserving fight against as that's now I am not positive for the future of the women's are division I. Think we would be perfect for the women's division and couldn't do they know why it's he wants to push that division right now. Once again, you're listening to the GS MC woman's enemy podcast back roughly shirt break soon. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team checkout GMC fantasy football podcast get today's best advice on who to start. Kasit even who you should draft from sleeper picks red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you that GMC. Dot Com backslash fantasy dash football dash podcasts we'll cover traditional leaves dynasty. Few Pr, even I think. When you need fantasy help there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GSM see podcasts dot com for more INFO. And we are back. So once again, you're listening to GS MC woman's. Gas I'm your host billion and the episodes here I could talk about hot takes your heartaches of mixed martial arts and I found one hot take I WANNA see if If if it applies storms the here and we'll take was to be exposed the sorry state of May grabbing today Lake. Expose the sorry state of extracting back in the day when sprawl and brawl went out of style but scooper hop. Skip hop to the cage became way to the popular cable most likely lose when guys let go of that as a default wrapping defense when they go back to playing guard. So. Grappling and mixed martial arts right now. It's very evident that if you are a grappler, you'll maintain your place on top of a division. We see that Dan you see that with a WHO's you see that with joy saint-pierre. I'm looking at right now actually I'm looking. Women's rankings down, divisions. And how many? How many grapplers are there on the very top Of the ones pamper pound. Reagan's here limited through each here. So we talk firefighters of the Strike Division we have well Jiang. Just dried. Janacek Tatyana. And you'll see the problem here. It's very strike heavy in its now, all these women can grapple. They can grapple. But the race creek. Heavy. And I talked about this last time in that I, always prefer diversity. Over, sheer excitement. In that I like there to be way more. Finding sows among the top five because he though the top five. Or the the major four while Zhang rose ominous. Though the major four fighters, other divisions, and for the most part they all fight very similarly but the differentiates US slight little bit in the reform into freaking off four. These are very. Different you. WanNa teach is the best out of pocket boxer out of all these four. Rosa Menas has the best footwork. Discount arguably has the most strength and is best entity boxing while Zhang is a combination of you. WanNa and Roseanne. Muniz. So these women off by very similarly. But, not none of them grapplers. And I'm thinking if a grappler word of pop into division, how good were they be and the GRAPPA? Melia. WAS CAUSA. Call Esparza when she finally gets marina already guess. She fought very sloppy. She fought S-. Not with all of US intelligence. In my viewpoints and the reason why that is caused bars in her post fight interview she said best. I had to go make this find exciting. I had to finish up my ponant because the only way I can go and move up in the rankings is. If I finish my opponent and exciting way. And the truth is not that many people are interested in grappling, and because there is less of a push for grapplers in mixed martial arts. This leads to fighters having to fight their way in the long haul in order to get up in the rankings here Charles Oliveira. A proper decade, Vedrine in the UFC has been slowly trying to buy his way into until rankings here it only now he's doing so. Term Willie. Lewis care about him until he started on routes Kamara use one grappler born fighter physically grappler. John Jones Greg grappler now let's Lightnings here. And then my. Son. Who is striker I POL Costa striker I. Read Gaza, Kevin Gas Lem who are moving to reopen the rankings. So now let's look at the ones fight rankings. Again. Janko sent the Cavallo Jeremiah. Lauren Murphy. So. So Kim Education is probably the second best graphic message effort behind Jennifer. And when you look at and even then when you look at the rest of the car here, Roxana debt free you on caller with it Jessica I. And I'm looking now. There has been a among the top eight fighters. Who are currently in the women's the woman's Fight Division. There have been only three to eight twenty four. There have been three submission victories, three submission victories of the past twenty, four fights among the top. Of the rankings here? Which means there's not all the grappling happening. We have Jennifer my aunt getting US mission. Victory. Yeah. But that's good here and there but for the most part, it's It's very striker heavy. Very heavy, and that's why a lot of is going towards civic of area. Now, who is going to be fighting the Lord Murphy. 'cause think of AO. Fights way. She fights waste more than she actually is. So she's be on flyweight, but she looks she being natural woman eight. and. I. Think if something of a war to compete in division shoot. Shoe as good if not better. I'll be that well syndicate who wasn't even right in the top ten up until this year. Great performance against a syndicate video includes Acadian. They are very match their Basha very equally in my opinion I. Think they're very similar from the styles here to Keagan Shia wrestled at checkout because she didn't really have much in terms of you know grappling I believe all the woman who can break the mold NBA The grappling heavy. Champion and then was divisions what had to be sick avail. I think if available can definitely grapple with bouncers. SHANECO my only problem with that though is. You know her her striking. Her reach can be such an advantage for her and she's so good defending yourself take down that it'd be difficult for Cynthia to do so. But seem like there's more of an emphasis on. Defensive wrestling than it is being active in being aggressive as wrestler and winning your fights. Tyson now now let's go to the bathroom and rankings here, which is very interesting because a men in new Nez. She's been heavily focused on the grappling and it happened. Ever since her battle between animate. There has been no fighter who went toe to toe amenities time as champion than juilliard. Nor not there. So. Sit. GDR. Was trumbull man Nunez with a striking which led to noon as carrying the fight interesting match. And then she then cares over towards fight against for dispenser. So Nunez. She's kind of slowly transitioning away from the knockout artists in the first round to the passive very safe fighter who knows how to pick your shots very strong really good firefighter all around a true Ma athletes. Also looking out, you're probably the best grappler here. Legitimately, I think you can. You can out grapple man Nunez what has to be asked him ladder. Yeah. I'm looking among the top ranked fighters right now in the woods bathroom rankings here. Nunez for as good of a grappler as she is, she's got black belt in Jujitsu. Atalanta is a little bit better than newness, but Nunez striking is so. So difficult to deal with, and she's so good in every facet of the striking change outside middle or into the pockets. I tend see aspirin added. Being able to successfully in safely. Take, down and news. Serving Now I. All the wrestlers right now when I looked at the flyweights straits. Bantamweight. These grapplers are poor in the standup here and I would like it if there would be fighter out there, who is Nicola, went so far has to be call spas end that she is decent enough in the striking to kind of handlers. But her wrestling is really really good here. But. Yeah I'm looking in the rankings here doesn't seem to be depth in terms of wrestlers in terms of grapplers. Conor McGregor. Hundred. It really does depend I really can't Really. Can argue that actually was yet. You WanNa defeated well, Zhang. And should have won the rose rematch. No. Rose nominee in his tap-in lady you on. The rematch. Definitely, I don't know what type of fight you're watching A. Rose definitely in my book, the video it check in the second fights. Now you want to resume Zhang that is completely up in the air. To, play up at, you could make the argument that will genuinely fights. You can make the because the Oregon forty one hundred on as to why she gets Malaysian would be well statistically if you look at the numbers she out struck Willie Zhang in every single round. Alex Yeah but well, he Jiang, obviously throughout the harder punches then you WanNa and you WanNa look like she was odd people from the shots. and. It's hard to bring up fights. That's all the time. 'cause I always bring Dominick Cruz and cody garbrandt in their fight because dominick. Cruz. Technically Better Guard brand at a peron basis. But, we all know who actually to fight. It was good brand right could heroes a better fighter, the stats them safe though but obviously, off the eye test, he was smoking dominick Cruz in the striking. And for so you WANNA teach wally Jan this lately. Did better than YOU WANNA a striking in terms like impact because you can go in going for our fortieth shots into Zhang good. What what still prospered hit we one shots and then you want US head it was going to tell back and that just doesn't look good. And it doesn't, and as I am speaking a call outs, apparently closed shields calls man as saying she is not the goats. So of course, shields believe many news is encroaching on hurt serve three division title holder and who encounters. Boxing's goats or the greatest women's a fighter of all time. But. He knows that in this sums in some circles the yes. He's one of the most dominant figures in remains regarded as top female fighter in the world. Clarissa Shield says that she is the best you know she is the greatest woman spider time Dino could shield she has three. Belts right now in women's boxing. And she says, I hate people that UNICEF is better than me. No, you do better than me for sure because that's what you do. But we take away her picking and her elbows and we're just to go left and right with hands I would win well. Yeah. Okay. Okay So, quizzes steals go forward saying. Enemy fighters make it seem like she could come over and beat me and it's like they gotta be smoking some kind of dope or something that's like if I could go over to May with that training, it'd be her. It's like I got a train. I gotta get some kind of experience. I gotta get some fights Ma you go. Okay. Right so Know a man who knows for us good walk as good of a boxer as she is. Very, different from boxing rivard I don't think I. Don't think would fair about well, if to become a time. Boxer I think she would make the transition pretty offers I think she could go nab wins. I think if you're if I close the shields in a boxing, match, newness would definitely lose. But. I will say the the best women's fighter in the world would have to be Nunez right now Menounos. Why because fighting goes beyond just punching. Let's effect. Who's the best boxer cruise shields WHO's the best fighter? Amanullah's news. You can't just your guard may fighting for not being fighting. I don't know I have no clue. As on. I've had her being triple champion while nudist champions I do one thing she has bragging rights over over Nunez Air. But man it's. Minute is she is unanimously. Is In my book, the Best Women's fighter in the world off the base that mixed martial arts is more diversified fighting than boxing. That's really at the now all love to see. Mendez. Go over and fight against the Women's champions of one in a Baltimore see that more I've seen more avenues for monistic. Are. They that will by herself as an all time great as the greatest woman's fight of all time. That'd be awesome but right now. I'm not sure about the future man is are they sure Amanda Newsroom is going after this? You might retiring she may not be retiring knows you got fighters calling out though we got Opportunity Dr Ddr Holly Home Be Anderson the future right now. It seems really bleak way now, Dean white is that. If she wants her retire that she can definitely retire. It'd be fine. So the future menace unsure, the woman's the future probably division unsure bad semait also unsure. So things are getting money right now in those two divisions biking only expect the very best. Out of Mandarin as if repeat yet again. And that brings close today's podcast. You have been a great audience. All I gotta say is thank you. Thank you for listening to the MC wounds MMA podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network. Please remember right in. Nassar. The that really helps US Austin please follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. Thank you and have a good night's. Been Listening to the Golden State media concepts women's mixed martial arts podcast part of the golden state media concepts, podcast network. 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#561 - Don Frye, Greg Wilson, and Sean McCorkle

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#561 - Don Frye, Greg Wilson, and Sean McCorkle

"Quote from Boca traps on some traps traps awesome trapped under threat to me songs to Hook em. Put that other store across the border and they roasted podcast. We got a great birthday today. We have read Romero Wilson Peter or t start network television stars. How many people could say they're on a network television show during the pandemic. It's number one in the country. Number one. They got the number one TV star in the country on welcome to mme exaggerated number one show it was it was doing quite well when it was out. It's during the Eight Episodes. It was number one of us and I said it was out. Yeah, and we also have a guy off. Okay, and Sean McCorkle, who was who beat Mark hunt in less than a minute. How many people did that in their lives? Nobody? Yeah only met one person who TJ Northern Health man off reading too but we pretend like he didn't so he's in 1 minute 15 seconds or something crazy. So all right. Well, we'll take this part out. Not an emissary was that in mixed martial arts or yeah. Yeah. Nobody knows about it cuz it was in K one but it was an MMA fight. So I always claimed like I beat him a faster than Faye door and five times faster and over it might ever bring up meldon an office. So, all right. Well, listen, we have we have guys that are one-of-a-kind here. Okay. So this is the best podcast out there. And we appreciate all the love. We're getting we're getting a lot more love every week. Listen. We gotta start with Kobe vs. Woodley because that fight was Nan that fight club Like both guys and I wanted it to be a draw. I just wish it was more competitive because it was sad to watch Tyron Woodley go out like that. Yeah, man, he did not look good. I mean we all I think we all picked Colby. We all said it was going to be called me and yeah and but you go into it hoping that it's going to be excited like like maybe he's going to prove us wrong. It's one of those times you don't want to be proven wrong necessarily but it was pretty obvious from the drop that Colby's in his prime and Woodley is well past him. Well, that's what a thing is that when they put on the screen thirty-eight and thirty-two page the ages I was like cuz when I when I look at them, I think they're the same age when I just look at them or hang out with them. Yeah see the five or six years difference. You're like, oh, okay. And then also, there's a couple of things couple of things. Number one. I think this a matter of looked they're both amazing Fighters both great fighters in the in in Woodley's prime. It definitely would obviously a lot more competitive totally different 5 a.m. At least Prime I would have obviously would these Prime I would absolutely love with would lie. But yeah there was but it was also a matter of right now who were who's been working harder? I think yeah and Colby, you know what you want about Chris politics or his personality or how he rubs me the wrong way. I there's very few Fighters that work as hard as cold become good. Even when he like he's probably in the gym right now, you know off yesterday or Sunday. He's a guy that just does not skip probably three days. He's always working. He's got no distractions and and unfortunately, you can't say the same building who you know, it's just the sport has well, he's got his singing career to think about now. Well, he's got no point where I think I think it takes months off. I think it takes months off. Like I feel like he doesn't actually, you know, take it as serious as Colby Covington and and it showed because I think you got two guys and if they put the same work ethic in I think it's a different game. But Kobe doesn't skip he doesn't Skip and that's what showed also, you know, I was watching this fight thinking of a couple points, but one of them I go bad. Imagine if Kobe had more often power, right? How dangerous would he be if he had one punch, but then I thought you know what that's probably a blessing and Colby's case because you look at all these guys who start off as long as lers you look at guys like Tyron Woodley Josh Koscheck, you'll Romero John Dodson even put you could put Dan Henderson Cody garbrandt just engaged in the fight that he lost track where they got they fell in love with their power and they stopped they stopped all the punches. They stopped throwing hundreds of that except the wrestling Colby knows he doesn't have that bulb lights out and that's why he's so affected. He hasn't he doesn't rely on the punching power. He doesn't stand back and go like an endless fight with her around if I get the right shot. He just is a consistent birth. Horse and it showed McCorkle thoughts. Yeah, I was just the whole time. I was watching I kept wondering why who would Shang the most likely politically aligned with it's just confusing between the two of them. I don't know which side showing would be all on their political views. Like I have no idea what mystery told me was wondering but I know I think about election page news for the same way forward mean obviously husband's better than what at this point, but I was saying the whole fight. I wish Kobe would take him down just once like just tried giving your whole one time going there and shoot a double and he can do any track him down and change the whole fight. I thought man was able to control the whole round and I was able to do it again later. So that's kind of like you said, I think he just decided with his finger. He couldn't or didn't want to risk it. But if he when Colby off kitchen range, he's going to be hard to beat man, you know, I knew that would be still got that big right hand, but Colby did a great job all fighter statement with then just within kicking range. You know punching range and as long as he's throwing his leg kicks and those front kicks off. You're not going to go catch you with a big right hand, you know, so his new kit cuz that went when he left his Camp I go. Oh no, this is yeah. This is going to end bad, you know usually guys to start their own Camp it never it never works out. I could rarely say when it hasn't worked out I could say I could say when it hasn't worked out plenty of times versus what it has worked out but you think maybe his new camp had a better strategy than his okay to switch things up. I think I was worried too about that going into it because usually when a guy I mean several guys have tried that and I've never seen at work. So this may be the first time I've ever worked like where they go and build around themselves. But when you're you know, we're at ATT. Well, maybe Colby didn't have the best guys as far with cuz he alienated everybody but typically I would have the best guys the world as far and trained with every day best coaches when you go and try to you know, bring in, you know, like four or five guys, you know, or whatever like even like cowboy Cerrone, you know build is a little ranch out there and brings out his guys. He's probably the best fighter out there when he trains and that's never home. Thing to be the best guide to gym. So you did take my joke by the way, cuz I said, he's a what is it a a beating like you never experienced? I guess I guess he's just wrapping in the octagon and may I try to start of you right when I heard him say that do I'm like kind of hunters joke. Yeah, he took, you know, he could have it. What are your thoughts going to say? He's a friend of the show. Why not course have it? You know, what are your thoughts about the the fight? I think anybody who pays who picked Colby Covington to win the fight when exactly how they thought it was going to go, you know, I mean, they probably didn't expect the fifth round TKO via broken rib, which was I think was very surprising, you know, it sucks. You know, I feel bad for a tyrant for some reason to you know shity injury, but if you look at the significant strikes, it's like it's crazy. You know, a total has Kobe has 232 total strikes tire and had 67 total strikes significant strikes Colby had 78 Tyron had 34 and Colby at three takedowns Tyrant had one is just dead. It just really showed this fight how good Colby you know really is at this point in his career and I would love to see him go up there and fight Camaro or Jorge masvidal. I think he at this point he beats both of those guys. I think he definitely beats down at all. I think tomorrow is pretty much the same fighter as Colby. I think if they fought ten times right now would be five five because last fight could have went either way, you know, one minute it's called off and half left and he was I thought he was winning that round possibly and winning the fight. I mean it was to to going into that last round and I was there now here's where I wish Colby would change it up a little break cuz like and I like Kobe, he's a friend, you know would lose a friend too. I wish at some point. He had some sort of gamesmanship. You know when Tyron Woodley sitting there with in pain, you beat the shit out of them you put on his own blood looking check on them, you know, go there but hey, man, you know, it's he's still a fighter. He's still a guy in your sport. He still an athlete he I mean you guys are dead. Same you guys share next even sportsmanship more sports. Like I didn't like it when Moss it all knocked out aspirin and laid down next to him, you know after he he need him and I thought that was like dude, come on, man. I mean this guy could be dead right now. And you're you're taunting them. I don't like it. When Colby does that too would lie because I mean look, you don't have to shake his hand in the beginning, you know, gloves, you know, would they call them a racist Colby said some bad things about it was there was obviously some animosity but you won U won the athletic contest just just took still at you're an athlete bro at like a day one. You're taught to show good sportsmanship. You don't you don't have to be the guy's best friend. I actually had no it annoys you in the mail when they hug in the third round like there. It's like just fight let's fight for a hug at the end, you know, but just check on the guy. He's obviously in pain you did that to him just to see if he's okay. Greg yeah, nobody nobody likes a sore loser. But nobody really likes a sore winner man. Like I did like that. I thought if he would have went over in at least checked on behalf of his all right, if show a little class, you know, but Kobe I think he was playing that character so much that he kind of loses track of who he is and why I was thinking that's where it's kind of in line with this character to to not you know to not do that. So that's Windows said nobody would have guessed. She probably would've finished u v I'll tell you who did better than twenty-five to one that Colby would win in the 5th and that was me so way off. I got to hear the 25 one on a $50 bet that Colby I bet that he would win in the third fourth and fifth each one of them cuz one of her paid whatever 15 to 1:18 to 1:25 to 1 so but yeah, I was happy to see him. He wouldn't lose any fans that loved him if you went over and checked on him. He would have any thoughts. Right. Yeah a little a little compassion with I mean, Greg is a master at a Conor McGregor would say the most hateful things ever than afterward. He you know is yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be like, hey was just a shower. Yeah, even even Mayweather. Does that maybe the knocks the guy says the most horrible thing you've ever heard but at the end he goes, you know, you guys both made money together, you know you won. I mean you I understand not to touch gloves because that can it's a whole psychological thing with fight hasn't started yet in the fifth round. I could see him not wanting to maybe he thought tire was like that was a way for him to stop the beating I could see that but after you obviously one and even when he was like my ribs, he still kept punching him the ribs when like, yeah, like come on there. Like I I get it that's where I'm like them and then I think that like if he would just Kobe would just turn down a little bit of movies notches. I think that like at the end of him and Usman like I thought his speech was hilarious. Thank Donald Trump. I mean, I don't agree with it. But but hilarious it was entertaining. In fact, I wanted him at some point. I'm like every time he wins. I'm like, I know he's going to piss everybody off of this speech and there's something very WWE slash entertaining of that right? I'm like, oh for sure. I can't wait to see what he says cuz you know, everyone's looking pissed off right all these only person that's ever made me nervous before he gives a speech like usually I'm nervous if I had to give a speech. I'm nervous what he has one. I'm like, oh god Kobe. Oh and then did when he put Trump on speakerphone live. I thought this could in Trump's presidency if he doesn't always on speakerphone like who knows what he's going to say, if you think someone present phone call so funny, he'd be like, yeah, that's great flag go out there and grab some pussy I go for it. Like no cuz you suck. That was kind of cool actually, like he actually looked like a little kid who saw Santa Claus like I mean Kobe was like you could tell he was really touched by that and Trump his crib who didn't know if he even said like man that guy was really tough. I give that guy a lot of credit and you could tell that would be was not a fan of Donald Trump at all. No and found Trump was like Hey, that guy was strong. He was tough. He made him look easy. He gave he gave would be a lot of props. You know, he was a former Champs a truck knew a little bit about it. You know, he said he's a former champ. He's a you know, like he knew he knows the sport package that so yeah. I thought that was pretty cool. But what I didn't like was him and his mother going at it and he's like, I'm going to fuck you up blah blah blah and then Usman says, oh you're going to have Trump then going to go. Oh gosh when you when did you have your tribe send smoke signals and now he's mixing up so many different things. Well now cuz now all of a sudden very different tribes off. All of a sudden it's that he's racist. He said a racist thing on ESPN and then you got people going well in Nigeria. There was a hundred different tribes, you know, what was wrong people defending what he said that he wasn't wrong and now you have a whole and it's just like bro. You didn't have to go there like but then there's a comedian in me who goes well when it comes to shit talk All is fair play and people have long but it's just like man, you know, it's like he just didn't have to go there, you know, there was no need for that. And and and you just now people are going to say it's just like oh God, you know, it wasn't like when he went after about you forget hit by train that had to be done. I mean what I mean, what's the point of Greg of him saying the smoke signals tribe? Well, I mean isn't in smoke signals are traditionally associated with Native American tribes, which is why it's also a little bit more funny cuz I always thought Someone he's not even you know, the right tribes. You said tomorrow is a dimensional fighter. Like what the fuck you mean like or what day you said? Like, I don't know but you said dimensional. I just thought of like space or like inner Dimensions. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. It was a was I don't know the exact. I know what you mean though. I use the ring back and forth. So now that makes kind of a lot of sense. I mean the guy just got punched by Tyrone with the invoice times to face not exactly having clear thoughts. But at the same time it's like you don't need to do that bro, like you just but then again these guys aren't, Keith said it's like even as a comic we fuck up as I was going to say I was going to say listen some when you're riffing. You're stepping it sometimes yeah. Try you're not trying to you're trying to be funny that you're trying to be witty. You're trying to go over the come back and sometimes you know, you strike hit a low blow right and it doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad person. Are they going to think evil thoughts all the time? Yep. Did you were trying to do the rat attack and you just in a bad note, I mean as a comedian I get it, you know and somebody said a few bad notes himself. I'm a camper. I mean like how many shows I left going? Like, oh forty four minutes of that show was amazing. But what the fuck was I thinking that one minute, you know, like no, I'm spent whole shows. I spent forty four minutes making money for what I said in the first cuz I went into the crowd and stepped in it right off the bat and that's had the roses. And what do I do? I'm going to get canceled like I made Kong I've literally called you what the fuck was I thinking and you're right. You're like Adam when you risk so I can see that like look Kobe didn't expect from to call him. He was trying to come back and Rosemont but wage is he raised? I don't I don't think he I mean he is race and stuffy. We know that really doesn't but that wasn't what he was trying to be in that moment necessarily. He was trying to think of a comeback. Yeah, yeah, he's that doesn't mean he's not racist. But yeah, he's a couple of things. You know, how you said that you could really understand like you got 44 good minutes and one that you blew the whole thing. Same thing to bring this job except the exact opposite. He focused on the one minute when he ordered it though for were bad and the other things when you're good Native American story. So oh God, here we go. I was dating a girl American Girl for a little while. Actually the story starts out with Joe Silva. Send me a text. They said hey Sean, how's it going? And I was like good joke. What do you need? Just try to stay in their good graces because I need a favor anything. You want Joe off trying when I was with you. She trying not to rock the boat too much he responds back. Can you stop saying racist shit on Twitter? And I was like, oh my God, that's not good. So I go look on Twitter. And apparently I forgot I posted a text conversation with a girl. I was dating at the time. He was Native American and she had mentioned to me. She was on her College rowing team and my response was I bet you could canoe like a motherfuker, which is a great joke, right? Yeah dead. Funny like I respond that to the girl and text. So then I I post that text and Joe Silva saw it and didn't like it. And so he asked me if I could stop posted races show on Twitter and I said, but what if it's really funny cuz I'm just trying to make it off and then his response was. Oh my God, that's all he said that so then I didn't say anything back. So you know, what like, okay. Well, I'll just leave it at that and then I got my release about three weeks later because you don't see them again, but I said that there's two things. I have no tolerance for racism and interracial dating and technically they didn't get the joke or the irony of that. So they always here's the thing. I honestly like the same story. It would probably be Native American probably find that hilarious or if I know she loves it's like Joe Silva that gets offended. I find that most of the time it's rep ever if it's the if you make a black joke and if a black crowd the black people laugh the way people go. Oh, you can't stand right and someone who has nothing to do with it. They get so upset about it. Yeah. Yep. Joking about me being a racist. I don't know him like that. I'm just kidding. I don't personally I don't think he's a racist. I just think he he plays one on T. I just kicked off the chip on his mouth. I mean, I don't know him like that. I'm just joking in case people don't see the video part. All right. All right now listen, all right. So I you know, what Kobe did is he somehow bonded anime fans together because he calls out LeBron James LeBron responds to it after a game. They asked him about it. LeBron says, well, you know, you're not in the ring, right? So now all of a sudden there's a big debate whether or not Colby would beat LeBron in a fight Kobe would absolutely be LeBron a fight. First of all, yeah. Yep. He's 170. He's not 170. He's about 195 maybe even two hundred solid 200. Okay, and I know the bronze 265 but it doesn't matter what brought him. Thought before and he's never trained before Colby would be cured double-leg take him down and choke him out. I mean we've I've seen that and jiu-jitsu classes where like a great athlete walks into the gym or should be not of them by a 155-pound dude because you know how to fight now same thing happened on the same thing happened with an NCAA division 1 wrestler. They don't know Jujitsu. They can be as athletic and a good number to get choked out over and over and over again and but that Colby has a better chance of beating LeBron one-on-one in basketball than LeBron has it been cold in a fight. Literally. Yeah. No, I mean cuz you can always worth a shot up and he could go I would say the odds would be distinctly against Kobe winning in a basketball game greater than cuz LeBron with his size would still have like one points a game to what is possibly the first it was first basket wins, and he gets the ball first then yes, then it would be the same but otherwise job No, it would not be the same. If I try to put the odds I would say if they play the game to 5 with ones and twos like three points down for two Kobe has the same chance of beating LeBron and basketball. I played basketball in high level jobs college that I know couple NBA players are playing against them and those guys are so good at basketball. You can't even believe it like the guys that were unbelievably good SAT the bench that I knew in the NBA right now with the guys that fight and people have no idea. I've seen a hundred thirty-five million guy and it's not I mean obviously be taken NFL defensive lineman who's like Greg Hardy or something like that and throw him in there with Uriah Faber great heart. He's probably going to win even without training cuz there is I mean there is a limit to technique but Colby is I mean steep a walks around it to 3235 Colby walk around at 200. It's not really that much difference between those two, you know, I mean, you got a 3/4 inches, but that's why I said if it's so I was talking to people online about if it's just size and athleticism. Why does it any fail? Why doesn't Bob Sapp in his prime just like just off Going to beat whoever you know, I mean, he was three hundred and seventy-five pounds of pure muscle strike way bigger than LeBron. Why didn't he? I mean, I guess he did. Okay, you know who is twice, right? Yeah something in Nigerian, but you're talking LeBron has a fifty pound weight advantage that was a hundred seventy five pound weight advantage and athletic, you know, so but yeah people okay. So here's a real question sign you up with who wins LeBron or pseudo If LeBron has balls at all, which he probably doesn't cover on it, but I don't yeah, I mean if you guys but I've seen LeBron barely get tapped on the face and fall down and act like he's hurt for 30 minutes. So that's just part of the game. Let's just let's see. He he he's Olympic wrestling gold gold medalist. He's great as you get to you don't think he could possibly just out slick LeBron James and Thursday. I mean, maybe somebody with a truck or something. He would have a hard time probably. I mean, it could knock him out. He reaches face, but I think maybe a little bit but I don't think the bronze a fighter like Michael Jordan stuff like that. What are Charles Barkley the strikes me more as a fighter than a guy like LeBron, but I don't know maybe some type of Madeline. We just don't know what I had a guy one time trying to hit on my girlfriend. He went but like wouldn't let go and I just told him he likes her to stop dog. Captain a quick text or quit everything and so that was going to find him as long story. I was younger and dumb then but my little brother kept saying to me what if he kicks your ass, like I said when I was read further you have seen I was like he would go so what if he did one of these the toughest guy long as you don't know it like you look like a dirty doose of what if I do throw a punch. She just catches your fist like a movie and then get you in the balls and we have to try to laugh about that after it was over with the time. He was just an entire guide me to do it to beat him up worse, but I'm Greg. Who do you think wins LeBron? You know what? Okay. Remember when Cary Elwes had to fight Andre the Giant in The Princess Bride. Yeah. I feel like that. You know, he's just trying to get a Chokehold with both arms, you know, and he just swinging him around and stuff. But I mean, I don't know. I mean this is talking about fantasy sports wage is on FanDuel. I mean this who knows dude, I mean, it seems like LeBron would at least be able to swat him, you know, but you know, he could get on his back and catch a joke. Well I thought Think hoo toh would manage to get the Single Leg Takedown or I don't know is this fighting an octagon or on a basketball court where as like the fight location in an octagon? So I think so who don't I don't know how good LeBrons take down defenses, but I think so too will manage to take him down and it's going to be a difficult physical tasks to do to take down nine foot tall LeBron James probably weighs like 290 or something like that. It's not going to be easy. But you know, so who does Olympic wrestler dude, so I think he could and then, you know just do some basic submission on LeBron. So I would give the check to see that video from abroad adjusting his shorts and they were using the skycam and it just happened to look right down his shorts and you can see it this giant weiner. I know it was it was it looked like it was about four feet wide a cop pulled it over now. All right. So here's what I don't get. Okay, Donald Cerrone, but because wage Go price beat the living shit out of this guy in the first round like an equal price his heart. We seen him knock people out. This. Ballinger bond is how this guy that guy and sorority comes back wins around 2 and 3 a.m. Conor McGregor hit him with a shoulder. And I mean is it mental or does McGregor hit that much harder than Meeko price like or is it just all the it was all into the way he can't handle pressure McCorkle. What the fuck's going on with it. Did he throw the fight McGregor thoroughly man. It's just one of those guys who he either is a top-three fighter or a bottom five hundred thousand and it's just which guy shows up at night man. It's a I watch the first round of that. I was like, why is he not fighting or you just going to stand you're getting beat up? Like, why are you not it's like watching Robbie Lawler fight the other night. I was always a huge Robbie Lawler fan, but when he fought his last fight, he he won't even swing like you just stands there. I'm like, what are you doing? Like, do you want to lose like I don't at least I mean gas yourself out going for it. If nothing else, you know what I mean? Like losing the first round. I'd rather lose fighting Ninja And wait to get my ass kicked for three rounds. But yeah, he finally picked it up in a second and third but it's a he's just I think it's Middle with him man. Like it's all the the common thing. I mean if I, Gregor can change your life if he'd be kind of a greater. He sneaked to make millions and millions of dollars on their rematch. You know what I mean? Like, I mean just a fortune so I think that's just a moment. I mean like when I thought screw right before I walked out I was coping event. My second fight everything. You said Dana White sells me right before I walk out, you know, this will change your life if you win, right and I was like, I'm sorry, like I'm getting ready to walk out to fight. He goes we're going to make you a superstar if you win this fight like we like your personality like her interviews stop saying relationship night and same thing but these are we going to make your store if you win this your chance, you can change your life and I thought great cuz I already felt like I was going to pass out from the pressure now I'm saying I have even more to gain if I win. So yeah, that's a pain in the ass are being sorted. Aye for being fought I lost so yeah, but at the same I mean, but he seemed like so hurt on McGregor him with a shoulder even oh and then Nico hits him with like the kitchen sink and he's just comes bath. I mean, I think mentally and just want to probably want it out like got hit and saw the opportunity and just the pressure one of the pressure over, you know, so crazy. I mean I talk I've never seen it it made me think that fight was fixed. And I know I know it wasn't fixed. But after that fight everyone's like don't fight was fixed. And I mean it looked it looked bad. I mean the way Cerrone, you know, just collapsed in that fight. It's like it's like bullshit the way like he went down was like, you know, it was I mean, I mean, I didn't say that one. We're it looked it didn't look good cuz like when Dempsey obvious said that one time nineteen were fighting this half middle, which I think equals 45% like when shop said ninety percent of Comedy is knowing Joe Rogan something like 99% off or something like that. I'll tell you this guy that I'm still not sold on because I have not seen him come back from adversity and we don't know how good job. Fighter is until he's losing but man this chamiya is a police my boy kiss. Here's a base man. He he rocked that guy good job now short answer me this so many times. I watch fights and people are throwing wide shots hooks whoops, even like Leonard Garcia or the age bomb or he's coming all the way back home. And you know, whenever I took a box in class or watch Boxing it's a straight punches the whole time no more ever only like certain Fighters like Mayorga or somebody will still crazy punches this page through the straightest punch you could see and it was over why are guys not going straight punches as much as this guy? I think it's just lack of technique man, if you watch boxers cuz you don't, you know, the shortest distance to Palm a straight line obviously and speed is power and you can generate a lot more speed going straight than you can with the, you know, resistance thrown the white one, but I think it's just that that mindset of feeling stronger thrown all your bod. Turn or whatever but a lot of knock-out Punch's you see aren't like the Dan Henderson punch. It's just like that which straight just touching them. You know what I mean? Just straight down the pipe and go to Connors a master that Congress punches are all strong and that's why these people to punch, you know, like even what's his name when he won the title. He came in. Oh my God, the 7 second knockout here all day long with that big swinging left hook and you know, Dodge left a straight left to knock him out. But yeah, it's it's it's a hard thing to do a herd mentality to get used to but yeah, those short straight punches our way to go man. I'm just like I guess experience. Maybe is it is it lack of I mean urges. Is it is it because you you don't stand as straight as you do when you box like you kind of like real strong you when your boxing you want your shoulder pointed, you know limit the mileage for Target you are but if you point your shoulder too much damn a you're giving them your leg to take you down, you know, so that's part of it. I think part of his guys don't got want him to make us don't grow up boss. World Wrestling so they relate to the boxing game and it just this stuff takes years. You can learn really fast when you're a kid, it takes longer when you're older, you know, sometimes I'll try to throw when I do like that box in that fight Camp, by the way, I'll try to throw those H bombs and it's harder I think to throw those wide punches and straight punches. Yeah good way to dislocate your shoulder to is that what happened to you? Yeah. Yeah. That's why I threw a big wild overhead right and jumped off his head and put my shoulder straight-out socket. I was thinking if I would just with a thrown straight now that would have happened. So I guess who this guy named Tiny Norton? He sucks real bad. Like that's not his body shop. He he still goes off before he beat me in a fight even though I dominated him with one arm, like I was on top of the whole time country with my left hand, but he still says that he won the fight. So I'm like, okay whatever other way I showed you that Mike Tyson video. I show Greg Greg thinks it was it was Fed Up. And you think he's on HGH why I'm sure yeah, he's got a c h what size you know, he's been over to the same doctor. I went to a Germany that did that the procedure I had done a new age. I can tell by his body your your skin doesn't get I can tell I just help either look I can tell that muscle definition. I look by how fast it happened by the way, his skin looks his body as well. You take HGH your skin rejuvenates. Nice looking young again. Like I was thirty-six years old people thought I was twenty-three, you know, the UFC 24 without many people. I got good genetics to on that but as far as like aging goes, but yeah, the I just know the look The wage Bill Irwin over guys taking steroids, I guess or the way I can meet it would know if somebody just got where they were by who they know. I just I just know I just I just know cuz I know Joe McCorkle is your ability to wedge that into any conversation subject at all. Just a little dog. Your mom's name is Jennifer, right? Yes. He followed me on Twitter. Oh, did she and I was like and I thought it was off the wig on I was like obviously pretty but I'm like this is something McCorkle would do is create a fake profile page when you know what that would be my first thought too. I'd be like, this is bulshit Shawn Mendes. This is this is a new character. He's doing just like stalled people and ships one of the best things I ever did was when I made a Twitter account off for a guy. I was fighting and then trashed my family as him and then I acted outraged that he had trashed my family like that. It was the funniest thing. He was real asshole now has like you're on the front page of every MMA website. What do you care? But this is proof know it was this guy Mike Hayes. I started out first thing I said by Amazon video if you look it up my CFA home. But I said I say you look like Stone Cold Steve Austin with Down Syndrome was the first thing I said about it and cuz he kind of does but he told me I could say whatever just don't bring family into it. So I convinced a website of some medical check-up some weird small websites. I know you get picked up once it was out there. I convince them to interview. I wrote all the questions and answers for was it interview with him? So they published that he was on the front of every MMA site like Sherdog said like it says Haynes pulled them a coracle on the portal and it was just me track to myself in every possible way. And I said that I hoped as him I said, I hope that all his family dies like my faith guys or whatever, you know, so are you just terrible? And so then I acted I said like my title my next interview was Hayes crossed the line, you don't cross you know, or whatever. And so then he woke up all upset about it's a menu, maybe look like the biggest douchebag ever you brought family until I said about my family into it and he was like, it doesn't matter but it's yeah I had him then he backed out to fight because we got it already been on the phone and I just got home. Like mind sucking him. I told him I said dude wait till you get in there with me cuz you never fought anybody else you'll ever before and I said I said you're going to be so overwhelmed when you feel about how strong I am and how fast time I said, it's going to like the over and 45 seconds and five days, like probably three or four days later. He pulls out the fight with the understanding that was like a message boards. And this guy I knew this comment from New York providing very specific things about me that he didn't he didn't like even back a day. So then I wrote I wasn't getting jealous who was so then I would wrote like like a job. So I wrote like really things like Adam changed my life. I all my whole thing and then sign it from him so that like all his life so he could tell he was he was so fucking pissed. Now. What now? What are your thoughts on this kid, home of Greg and Wayne dog and looks like I had Greg he's scary and shit man. I mean he I you know, what and I didn't, you know, you could make the pics and stuff on one of those sites. I forgot which one job. And I didn't pick it up. I didn't know enough about him and I know me Richard so I was like, I think there's sharks going to get this one and he moved me Richard's jaw to the other side of his face. And I was like, I was like this this guy is dangerous. This guy is supremely and it's funny cuz I remembered him when I saw him like I realized oh I have seen this game before. I wish I remembered when I was making my pics cuz ya know this guy's lethal and yeah, it'll be interesting to see if anybody could get it and drag him into deeper waters. But you're going to be able to have to be able to take take a punch a motherf ucker to get their McCorkle. I wonder how Greg recognized him. I wonder if nothing distinctive that he recognized what he saw him. I don't know. I was just trying to anyway know off the Record was going to go make a fake account as me get attacked him so he can attack me. I don't know. I don't know. I was trying to make a lift joke with himself so they went home. So I I don't know what Dyngus kind of look like, but I imagine probably like him. You know what I mean? Like that guy reminds me of an old an old old World Conqueror man, like he has vicious and skilled man. It's just a scary dude. He's a deal to be scary. Even if he wasn't an MMA, you know what I mean? Like just looks I was rushing for different man. I know he's from Sweden now or something those Russian Jews are just built and made different and they are as Don Frye said the last real men. So I think he it's like I do agree with out of me if it will know once he gets in there if you put him in with Leon Edwards or something like that. You'll know if he's real or not cuz he's going to take some shots against them. I like them. Sometimes a world-beater isn't like Brock Lesnar isn't so great when he's not the bullying, you know, like he folds when he's not the bully. Yeah, that's amazing when he is so like if you get with somebody can't bully then we'll really find out but so far man, he he looks Head and Shoulders above everybody doing out when I was in Mongolia, gangis Khan. So he's on like all their money is Genghis Khan airport. He's still like the good old days like they love cuz he's a game. Basically, like him and his six guys took over all of you know, China China. Yeah. The other way. Yeah, I mean they they I mean well then his kids and grandkids, but he and they took me to the place where he like found his his lasso that like had the magic lasso that took over and I guess he would pay him. He was being Wonder Woman he would beat you and then you would join his gang wage would beat you and then they they take you out for dinner. He would like family and then that's how he got so so powerful because he would kick your ass then be like, hey come join our gang and it was crazy. And I I showed the Mongolians like here's what here by the way. Here's what we think of Genghis Khan and I showed him. What's that movie Bill and town wearing? No Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Okay. Remember when they gangis Khan goes into the mall and he says planning with the equipment at the sporting goods and he said it's like going crazy and they were laughing their asses off their birth. This is he was so happy that like it's so funny because the Americans are so hard like one of the Mongolia I had the best time ever to treat you like gold. It's nice to people the women are just drop dead gorgeous because according to them Genghis Khan kicked out all the ugly people and only kept in the hot girls. They're all like six foot three Chinese girls at speak English that gorging a super cool, but I got my wife like a Mongolian headband Mongolian all this stuff and when my friends came over she's like isn't this going to be like cultural appropriation like I you know, I think this is like actually going to be more like Cultural Association like actually like showing like they don't look at it as close as they look at it as like you're you're helping spread our culture. We're actually booked out of of you for sure. They're like the only downside is we gotta kick your ass first before you board our court. Yeah. My goal is you would have kicked me out for being one of the ugly ones off. Like okay, you're gone. You're gone Wilson you're out. Like I tried you're like half the country. They still live in yours right with like no power them that but they love to watch Mongolians Got Talent. That's like their favorite show. I got murder has got talent and it's everybody working that big round Mongolian Barbeque is not from Mongolia. They hate that you do that. I didn't see it didn't feel authentic shockingly. It didn't feel particularly when they're so pissed at the whole world thinks that that's what they're known for is a barbecue. That's not even theirs but they're marvelous from Mongolians out where that came from. I think they came from your desk know they don't call them that that's like it's like a mongoloid is but like that's like the n-word over there. You do not call them that word. So but it's funny cuz they suck. Which n-word so yeah, so they love now we can call be on the ship. 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They don't obey the traffic signals. So they're like blowing through all the red lights and like and then and then like running from the cops cuz it's like I'm not fucking like so they're still pissed about that speaking of a guy who's not into obeying traffic signals or any kind of civilization Don Frye. How are you man? I'm good. How are you? There? He is done. What did you think of the Kobe fight off the what? I thought it was about as boring as the Shamrock Severance. Like now did you think I was looking for a way out? Oh, definitely. Definitely either the damn key to the gate is unlocked at home. Do you think about Colby talking to Trump afterwards on the phone? It was great other santastic, you know, I wish to call me shit. I called Kobe after every hung up. He did not answer the phone Greg Frey and if you want to fall Colby how worldly how would have been different even never become a program and pizzas and eating them like a chicken afterwards that would have been different he would have that cracked rib would have been the start of my lunch break goes up voice reminds me of a mongoloid on front way to squeeze it in there. Did you insult? Yeah, I could probably saw that reference quite there, but I am about six foot three Chinese women with no talent. I was sitting there being a wealth job is a six foot three is a bitch. He's got no talent, but I don't know he's not trying it. Is it is he found it off? Oh now Tyrone will be today said he's not going to retire. He's still going to fight. He's not going to change his Camp. He's just going to figure out what went wrong and go from there. Is this a good idea. Yeah. Cry. I'll tell you all three of those are wrong, you know, it looks like he retired during the middle of a fight it's not before and he said you can't improve then he needs to get a new camp. I mean there's some definitely wrong, you know in the cookie dough. Yeah. Yeah. What about your opinion? John. May? I think he's just when you're when you're at that depend upon your athleticism explosiveness, which he always was I mean, that is at his Peak. He was one of the best I've ever seen it 170 man liked I really was but I'm just like everybody else except on Friday with age you slow down, you know, like you have lettuce doesn't goes and I think he's just not as explosive as aggressive and once you've got some money man to it's hard to he's just not as hungry as colby colby man. He's hungry and the guys are just now certified in UFC know we're even talking about that the Swedish Russian we were talking about trim. I ever whatever like those guys are pretty exciting to the gym every day and train you do it long enough to give up. Old man, like you don't want to know feel like messing with it anymore. You know, like once you've once you've reached, you know, whatever your goals are and things like most guys that once you've reached the title, what you going to do when it again, you know, like it's it's not as not as exciting and when you push everyone turns against you and hates your guts. So that's that's the only thing that's happened to my parents took all the fun out of it cuz he's everybody's here until he loses and he's a bum never belong to you know, so even a family people treat like your friends treat you different when you lose it's weird and it's a weird thing not necessarily worse just different, you know, It run out of friends real fast. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah speaking of Mike Perry. So Perry called out to mile My Perry said I was nine or knock knock outs to I think that obviously my parents got a puncher's chance, but this guy was an Olympian wrestler from Sweden or Swedish national champion. I don't see that going very mature for my Curry know that's a terrible fight for my night. You'll see it though, cuz it was one thing we've seen is that Mike Perry can take a punch. So and he can throw them just as good. So if tomorrow doesn't go to his wrestling, I mean, it could actually wind up being a really interesting fight. Yeah, I'll definitely watch it. I'll definitely watch it now now I'll tell you who look good was Mackenzie Dern off with her Jiu-Jitsu which by the way Bubba Jenkins within her Corner. Oh, is that right? Yeah. That's awesome. Good friend. Yeah Bubba Bubba a couple of pounds. That's probably why you didn't notice birth. Absorb what he lost? Yeah, pretty much now McKenzie look great, but I do like when I got off when she slipped and fell and the other girl tried to go to the ground like that was I wouldn't say lucky but that's exactly where she wanted it. I think that should be her strategy every fight is just slipping off and hopefully the person gets you to the ground as follows you because I mean random Marcus gotta be the best ten and ten fighter ever, you know, God. I don't I don't understand that the if you can't go to the ground side control at least inside control in against someone that good on the ground like would fade or fake knock down for doing jump right on top of him and his God like I don't understand it man, you know, I mean like why would you go with a guy that skilled or a girl that skilled on the ground? If you can't jump into side control where you're safe for most submissions and they can regard you pretty quick. Anyway, I just wage. And if it was me it I would say standard pressure. Even if you knock him down stay standing, you know, unless you can finish, you know, you're going to finish but do you think do you think sometimes I feel like when people go against a really good juicy person. They they work on there just to through Camp through cancer camp and if people are telling them, oh, you'll be fine on the ground. You're okay in the yeah the security yeah, I mean like oh gets other black belt and do well in training, but if it's a whole different story man whole different world Don you're going to say yeah. Absolutely. I mean, yeah, absolutely. I mean when I had my last fight against the Apache Warrior them, you know, I can't drain I couldn't move very well and I brought it up to the guys. I was working out with and they're like, oh you're great you're doing great, you know, you'll do fine. And you know, that was after 10 surgery. You said like a dumbass? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think sometimes I I guess who who who is the Apache Warrior? The the Apache guy that I fought twice, I can't remember his name music good good fighter obviously, but he's he's he's a journeyman, you know, it gets warm for near Arizona was a Ruben Ruben Billy Ray. Oh, well, yeah. No, no now Phil Baroni. Yeah when he fought in Japan, I believe who are you fighting? He said some jab which I don't think that's a racist term, right? I mean people but is that how you guys refer to them and pride? How's how's the racist term Greg help me here. I don't think they like to be referred to as some jobs. I think that they'll they probably dead orientals are much less than firmer. I was going to say I think it's an insensitive word more than it's a racist word is necessarily now. I think there's a few little more Choice than that when it comes to race inside, but I mean, yeah, that's exactly the most political but you know, what are you expecting for? That word racist have been over you so much that is lost all of its, you know, Elvis dignity or you know, repulsive or s or what-have-you, you know, I'm a bit of strength to it. I guess bigoted the word is the word. I just think it's but but I'm sure but I'm saying but back then I would go home. Yeah, right the Mexican rose right off now, okay. Cowboy from the fight started at 7:00 my girlfriend and I got there at 7:30 a.m. And there was was the main event. I mean, I don't know what happened to the other fights, but my friend said elevator all terrible, you know, well, I just got off. Yeah, I think at 7:00 East Coast time you being in Arizona. It's 4:00. That could have been that burner someone's gotta read the fine prints right now. But if I were him I'd only fight to round fights because he always loses a third-round. He beats his shout of these guys and the first two rounds and then he just kept putting himself In Harm's Way. He kept shooting that the guys only shot was a good-looking and he hung or submit him and he just kept shooting. Is that stubbornness? Is it laziness is it just not thinking correct is a bad quarter advice. Cuz those how you really feel about them. All right, let me get for you. All right, what's going on now? There we go. Okay. Now jese. Jese your girl almost got some girl but not ref was the worst. She she need a guy. She needed the girl. The girl was squatting. She need her in in in in the head. It was illegal strike the rest just stopped it because and then just restart it for almost got the girl killed off the replay right but once you go to the replay the fight should be over but he just continued the fight. Yeah. That was this weirdest thing. It's the second week in a row where the ref cristiane. Yeah, That's all I love when the rest make up their own rules as they go like even when Tyra got poked in the eye and you don't get five minutes to rest. You can either fight or you can't fight Yori disqualified or not, but he got tiring like time to wipe off with dr. Look at it. Okay, if the refs are making up their own rules as they go in these fights man, it's ridiculous. You think terrorism for a layout? Yeah. I did look like he was trying to look for one minute to the doctor. I was like wow. He wants out of this fight. He's looking to get this thing over on this this right now and maybe that was the Ralph made like you're not getting out on this right away make you fight this out. Then then let you get away with this page when he was gassing and he was supposed to so, I mean, you'll take anything to get away in at that point, you know, like if they would have give him away no disqualification, but I wish they would just take a point, you know in basketball. So we're talking about LeBron when you found somebody does wage if it's on purpose or not. It's a foul. There's a penalty. I wish I pokes were an intentional or not automatic point loss. I wish kicks like low blows automatic point loss. I never poked anybody in the eye and not have ever been in got poked in the eye twenty times you solved on get poked against yogurt Idol intentionally and they want to keep that fight going back in the that was Pride. I think back in the day like get you guys like John Jones. They do you took advantage like there's no reason why not start every fight by Pokagon eyes and kick him in the balls and if you should get warnings like why not just do that first first to move to verify I can transition. What was that fight? That was like 2 weeks ago wage? Got kicked in the nuts twice in one. That was a Bellator. Yeah, I had to call the fire. The guy was like on the ground screaming in bed cuz Daniels. Oh my god. Oh, that's right near the one and the other guy was like they're kick boxing champ. Yeah came over to MMA. And the first thing you did was kick it up so hard to times they had to disqualify the fight. That was the last time I was on the ground screaming and felt like I got kicked in the nuts twice as why after watching Britain shops comedy special there. It is. Now now now now Don before or debate whether or not we think Colby Covington could beat LeBron James in a fight. How do you see that fight going? Oh, yeah, I give it a jelly did all day long. You know, I mean, it'd be like if there's most go out there and have a pick-up game or something, you know the bronze going to whoop his ass. Yeah. I'm a dream James don't have a chance against Covington. What about the Whoodle versus James? No. Yeah, exactly. That would be something funny. He just run run between his legs for half hour, you know James all dizzy page van off and quit Instagram and I'm a news she posted an ass pic of her over over thing and people were saying when are you going to do porn and your husband a cock or a Sam for this actually said I'm done with Instagram. I didn't know you were going to read my comments on lock, I don't know. Why are we running off wants to put has ever ask who's fucking shaming her for this? What are we doing? I mean, I mean when your post pictures of your going to get comments like this, I mean wage, you know kind of go together, don't they? Yeah, but like I mean what kind of been assholes like you suck you posted an aspic? I mean you want girls not to post our asses. I mean, is that the goal here? Well, I want some big servers husband's. Well, I mean, I mean that also is available. I don't understand what people want. Like it's you know, it's weird the guys that don't want to say you are probably gay and the guys that want to see her husband are also probably gay. So it's like it's like a weird. She does have a big day demographic. Yeah. I don't understand what I don't know what vehicle off the patella won her fight Don we had we have her on the show Thursday. She's the one from him on the show that you asked to the lingerie model. She got hurt in the first came back and won the the page Bellator awesome this week Bellator has another secret fight. They will not promote their lives from Italy. I don't even know why they even stream it on the air just have it closed down. Option or close people that are just there a newsletter out to everybody know who won be like email or something. It's like Graves from the nineties. Your code and like you have to be in the club to be able to watch a belt. It really is like like they just like switch channels halfway through and you gotta fight channel is on. I mean, it just seems like it's a fucking choose-your-own-adventure. Thank you. So yeah, it's Fabian Edwards who's Leon's brother's undefeated. He's the main guy. He's really good dog. He gets no props because I don't know how to promote him. But UFC this weekend, that's the big one before we gone. I don't mean to interrupt before we go on. I think we have to address one of the fights from this past weekend. That was just pure chaos. And that was a Johnny Walker and Ryan span fight. So I want to win dude. All right, maybe Don Frye can provide some commentary on this cuz Ryan span of one thing that is my biggest pet peeve the fighters do and I know I'm just, you know some Hollywood, you know half a moment here. I'm not a fire anything like that, but Ryan span had Johnny Walker so long And he just decided to go in for like the clinching like the takedown and then you know, it just one Fighters do that when they have their rough. They both landed the same time. He yeah, he was also that's why I was thinking they were both he was rocking the same time. Okay, I didn't catch that know his feet were out. I do we landed like nine punches behind the head though. Yeah, like I mean fucking a blinking took less shots behind the head off and that was weird the way he let it continue instead of changing position or finding some way defend that he just let him sit there and elbowed the shit out of his head like and that was so bizarre when he was out like when guys hit punch you in the back of the head It hurts. It hurts. You think you'd get out of the position. He just stayed there and just took it and took it there until finally there was like I think he's out and ended it. That was very bizarre. Thought I thought it was a bizarre thing on his Park cuz it seemed like he could just get out of that position. Stop doing it. He's going to Blake and on Friday better President Donald Trump or a blinking. Donald Trump Donald Trump. I knew it. I knew it all the way clearly gone are your eyebrows matching your mustache at this point off like on on your fingers wrong with them know I like it. It's a great. I think it's great. I think I think upside down you look down at the same are two caterpillars trying to fuck. Yeah, or at least Mad Dogging each other. All right. So Israel Sonia versus Mikasa this fight is going to I don't know. I don't know how good cost is cuz he's only really the Romero fight he fucked up Arrow. He beat Uriah Hall but I feel like there's not that much out on him. We know how good Israel is. Who wins this fight Don Frye? You know, that's that's a good question. That's a tough because Israel has got you know, they say a fire becomes 25% better once he has a belt and not happen with this guy, you know, he's improved greatly and he's really relaxed and get relaxed in there. I got control of the cage off but looks to be like an animal, you know, he looks like he's he's hungry. He wants to go after it. So it's going to be one hell of a good fight. I'll tell you that. McCorkle. I'm going cost to me. I think Israel is a better technical Striker but I think costs overall is just hits harder and I think he is just got more balls mapping. He's tougher. I think you'll feel better cardio and I think the way he handled Romero and didn't back down followed him. No matter what he ate. He just kept telling me I think cuz his chin is insane. We have really seen outside doesn't get hit very much. So we were like and seeing his chin birth. I also called some now. I think he's just tougher just over. Windoge I agree on Israel is a big. He's a big what? Israel is a big question mark yeah. Yeah, once he gets off without you know, he's been so love everybody nobody's threatened him. So it's to be interesting to see what happens when he gets you know, dropped Sean. Have you have you ever been knocked out? No, I've been I got punched in the back of the head by self already like seven times in a fight in Australia and I was just close as I came to get knocked out where I was out for a second sparring with material one time. He kicked me in the head after the bill like three seconds after the bill which almost knocked me out. I didn't feel right for about four or five days after that, but that's as close as but I didn't respond real hard either man, either. I was always worried about my brain and my gosh she's so I didn't want when I sparred. I mean, you gotta go a hundred percent sometimes but I try to do it no more than a couple of times a month and like I didn't want to I don't know. I didn't want to get brain damage for free, you know, like if I was going to take damage, so what When did you know you want to go Chan probably I guess there's one smart got hit me and I felt fine after I mean, he didn't say anything super flush. But when he hit me that they didn't knock me down. I thought I guess I can take a punch. I don't know like get weird way, you know, you can take a punch. Well, no, I know I can take it but I didn't when he he called me four or five times nothing. Like I said Hardware flush, but they didn't affect me at all. I didn't feel dizzy. I didn't feel Rock. I didn't feel anything. So that's part with him still get before stuff like that. But we try not to kill each other when you're in there and you got big gloves and headgear, you know, but off. Yeah, it's I felt really comfortable if I was Mark on after I took those shots that I was I didn't think I mean obviously anybody who knocked out by like my chances against a lot of guys, you know, when you're getting hit that hard and able to maintain your composure, you know back when you know, you were to catch an What about us both born the doctor didn't slap my ass. He hauled off and integrated maintenance with a you know, and nothing couple of the nurses Triple A hospital. Is this a good share with the crowd when he drinks everyday drip down and didn't hurt him off Craig Fri when I gotta catch and knocked the other guy's chin into his second chance. I knew it off. What was your favorite fight Greg Greg, Frey? Well, which ones I got into a fight one time with the person at Taco Bell in the Drive-Thru. Yeah, that was probably the best friend ever has got extra packets of hot sauce and everything. Wow, that's amazing. That's amazing good for you. Now. I would just like to go on record as saying I'm taking out of Sonia and I'll tell you why cuz he finds a way to win even again, I think cost of death is a power Advantage here, but at a sudden he just finds a way to win. He's a clever smart fighter and I think that's going to be the difference. All right. I'm picking cost because I've been because he's he's been coming to my shows. All right, so that's a long drive now Jake Matthews is taken on Diego Sanchez. Now the story about this fight is Diego Sanchez is now being cornered by Stephan bonnar. Which McCorkle I thought you might actually appreciate but I don't know if he left his Guru or it's going to be Bonner and the guru the guy from the the school of self-enlightenment or whatever or cellphone or self-awareness the guy that like you ever see that the guys video Greg this guy basically he has a school called the school of self-awareness. Josh phobia is his name and he does weird things like chases his Fighters around with a knife teaches you how to fight two-on-one against two guys at once but don't really have any real fighting experience. It seems like a lot of people think that this guy is sort of birth. Sounds like most comedy teachers seems like he's the kind of a bullshiter Diego hasn't won a round with him so far and he I think he watched it when his first fight with them but the steering like you gotta see this guy's videos, but now it's Stephen Bonner in his corner. I got a this is must watch TV. What do you think stuff is going to tell him Sean home? I will probably teach him that move that you talked about him doing to that guy backstage at the comedy the wrist lock quit, you know, I I gave Stephen a hard time on I told him he said we need to get together when it comes in to you guys like a mess with you may not hurt your beating up black comedians backstage and he like got his feelings hurt about it was like man, that was his fault. I said, I'm just kidding. He was yeah, but I didn't start it was like dude. I'm just teasing you. I'm just joke that he really he thought I was trying to be a dick to him and thought I did think about that part. If you said there's actually a school of self-awareness Brandon shop should probably attend a few classes cuz zero self-awareness. But yeah the know I love your chances with God. Bonner I'm just hoping the mask adjusted makkoli comes in as a third Corner man, like when they when he did that with cedar that was great. Like you remember that he said pull off the mask and no one knew who was it was even worth much of a mystery to it is now with the mask off like we didn't know who that was. So basically if you guys all right, so Stephan bonnar the comedy for the first time you went on he went over to light. He took your I think you might have been on a couple of things he did okay for the first time but it was it was at the dirty at 12:30 and for like three hundred people. Oh it was hard for the first time but you did fine but there was a guy backstage that was like, hey, man, you sucked. You didn't get a laugh go back to fighting and would not leave them alone. And I was like, it was like Twitter morning. I'm like dude, please leave the guy was that some drunk ass off the crowd and was like Hey, man, dude, you're my favorite fighter, but comedy's not your thing and the guy grabs Stephen Stephen put the guy in some Steven Segal wrist lock through the guy and his fucking head guy did His feet, what are the air? I've never seen a Steven Seagal move working real life and Steven Segal. Yeah, I didn't realize that was a black belt hapkido but holyshit. This guy did a full-on legs in the air and Stefan goes who sucks now motherfuker. I had to tackle Stephen which didn't it basically no good because I'm back like seven. You can't beat up the crowd members to come on man. And it's just us three and the guy fucking luckily. I did enough enough holding her where the guy got up and sprinted outgoing whole. He's like a crying like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life like a holy shit. I had never seen that actually work like he acts. What was that good at budgeting need whatever, you know, all these fucking keyboard Warriors. They they need to get dropped the morass. I agree with that. I don't agree with it. But I mean, why would you say you suck a comedy to a guy who first time ever and I warned about like the black off brand new, please don't touch him he's doing and then he's put his hand on him. And that was it was over it was that's a guy that somewhere inside and thinks he's got what it takes and saw his opportunity to maybe see what see what he's got. He found out real fucking passed away. He made it was had on him low like as like a loving like it was like you were trying to hurt him. It was like when he put his hand on him like like like hey buddy, you know and then and then the guy went flying on his head it wasn't like he was actually trying to spar with $7, but no, but I'm saying he don't take any kind of aggressive action with somebody that's clearly a trained fighter and and you hear about fighters who have to deal with this all the time with everybody else. And their liquid courage and I want to show that I could go round or two and what these guys and they get all and then they forced to pay the price. So that just sounds like another example of that shit do Chris camozzi me that like he's in punched in the face at least 8 times a Bars by people wanting to think that they could beat up a UFC fighters. Yeah. I can't think of a dumber thing to do than to go all takes it off and it's like it's like getting a picture with a celebrity there. Like this is my shot does my opportunity the right here, you know, so they they take their shot what I quit going out in 2012 to any kind of bar or anything like that. He's with my friends because it became like a weekly thing or not weekly every time I went out someone who want to fight me. I got into different fights and smoked two different dudes watch I could have gotten a lot of trouble for but it's off 1st Street Fighter bring in my life other than being a little kid, you know when you fight at school or whatever but it happened two or three times in a row and I was just like I'm done I can't go and I believe I'm not I mean you've been around me. I don't get aggressive unless someone makes fun of a dog. Locate or something. I got mad at one time but past that like I don't look for that was one of the nights I got into it with another dude. I end up picking him up and throwing him a teen style like ba baracus into a van like the room upside down his head open and I just missed a pride style soccer kick to the face, which I'm glad I did cuz I bounced around me from behind but I was going to kill the guy but I quit going out if that sounds like I might have to press on some stupidity of people coming up. Oh, yeah. I'm not scared to you and I'm like, okay that doesn't matter you can still get knocked out, you know, they just sort that out of nowhere when you're not even doing anything just mind your own business, you know, I probably ever getting any any guys want to test you after you were in the UFC. I'm like you just spoke. I quit going out long time ago, you know because it just seemed worth it. It's it's not fun anymore. You got people trying to Rob Rob you cuz they're basically looking to take your house, you know, and she'll Street. What about women at any women want to have your babies or have sex with you to get you to you know pay off their child support? Oh speaking of which tell you off the grid call me at 3:00 in the morning. I can say Don Frye right now to paternity hearing of the the six month old kid has a mustache and he's like, he's not mine off McDonald fries Graves where Sager like off so yeah. Yeah, I can still kick your ass. Don't make me crawl out of here and prove it took. You've had a you had like three heart surgeries back surgeries. Are you supposed to be smoking cigars every day? Yeah, that's really one of the rehab thing is. How many nurses have you sleep with when you were in the hospital? Vaginas young man I ever met was Tom Erickson and Bas Rutten those three of the most masculine men I ever met my life. So I think Dawn edges everybody out though, but you now you're convinced that Tom Erickson is the most underrated fighter of all time, right? Yeah. Ask. Wrestled under Chuck. We'll give you the lowdown. What a monster Tom Erickson is man. I was trained with the Forty eight year old version. I can only imagine the thirty year old version, you know, like he was unreal man strongest dude by phone off twice strongest out by far I ever did anything with so You know when I was that Okie State, you know and Erickson was one of the assistant coaches L. He bounced me off the wall like a basketball, you know, like like he was playing not playing racquetball of my head a lot of fun. You think he just had bad matchups for a couple of those like like Heath Herring matchup, which is a bad matchup for him. I think he's nice to nice to be a fighter. You've got to be somewhat of an asshole to be a successful fighter. Got it now speaking of which so Colby's dong thing. I said a couple of things as far as Colby goes don't you think at the end of the fight Kobe should have just checked on Tyrann and slipped his hand or just bit a little bit more of a of a good sport. Oh, yeah, he should have went over there and took his paws and get them out the mouse, you know anything, you know about his job. Yeah, but he was a rock hit each other, but afterwards you guys hugged you guys shook hands. Neither one of us Jesus or neither one of us looks screamed lay there and screamed, you know, I mean call me call me with someone he knew what was going on. I mean you can hear somebody's rib pop if it really popping. Yes, I shouldn't have checked on on his. Hey man, good fight or you know, we squash to be for just been the that's your moment to shine years. Yeah, you know what Thirty or sixty seconds to to speak? You know me know I mean the at what extra half hour to go before the pay-per-view shoes off, you know, you can get it get a call to bring in the phone book. Yeah, but afterwards he said that with these spineless coward which is why he wanted out and then he went off on the black lives matters movement as well as a bunch of other things. I don't know. I can't remember what God splish on black lives matter was does anybody remember off the supports those? I guess was involved all lives matter or none of the other or none. None. None. None. None. Last letter forgot BLM is big large mustache. Now now according to Dana White Gilbert. What's his name gets the Gilbert gets the next shot against Usman. I'm not Colby Covington cuz I think that fire was already made go go apology of Seattle. Go right from Cobra to stay on though. Although Gilbert has earned it. I mean I was going to say I think people act like like like Kobe hasn't had the shot. He had the shot. You don't automatically get another one you have this we have a division that's this loaded with with great Fighters. I mean if they're in a different division that there were the Mets to only guys and I can see where they turn it around do it a lot sooner. But when you have other guys of this in this division of this caliber then yeah, you can't expect him to turn around and give it right back to him. Right? Can you imagine being a mom right now? He's got a multimillion-dollar fight with Nate Diaz if he wants it. He's got a huge fight with Kobe if he wants it his rematch. With whom it'll be huge or he can go Leon Edwards with their whole history. He's got four huge fights back-to-back-to-back of they'll make a man that he can make millions on hate to say it though with an ATS is the only one I could see him shortly winning. I don't know about Leon Edwards. I think he's not going to be he's not going to be Colby and he's not going to be so I I just don't see her those happiness. So but if he could go, you know, if he'd go one in one if he could beat make lose the Colby beat Leon, you know took five years for like that. He can he can stretch it out. Make it happen man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's it's definitely the most exciting division the most Personalities in anime right now, is that 170 division off? So anyway, so and then this week also we got Ian. Oh, yeah, that's going to be good. It's like part of me like, oh my God so loved John black much, but he's beaten his last three guys, Corey Anderson Jacare and Luke rockhold. I mean, he's being Killers. Yeah friends look great against John Jones. He obviously not. Chrome. An easy but this fight can be very competitive. Especially if Ray is still focused on the Jon Jones rematch and not taking this guy a serious as he should who does seem like in this fight McCorkle brain is I think I'll meet him fairly easily man. He ran his looked amazing in every fight except against John Jones and he looked great in the first two rounds against him, but I think Ray has is off underrated now, I think he's really really good. So I think you'll I think every guy is good, but I think I think you'll beat him fairly convincingly probably by decisions about you done. Everything that board just said Andreas a smoking, you know a guy's hot right now. You know, he doesn't get a absent Jones and he should be able to decide whatever he gets. You know, it says it says weight class is Dominic off Craig. I like yelling. I think Ian is a world-beater. I think he's on a streak and I think he's I think he knocks him out knocks out Reyes. Yeah. Wow, even though he's never been hurt before. I think it doesn't mean it can't happen. I mean cuz I mean, yeah, I think the power wins in this one much like I think the power losses in the in the Attic side you fight I think the power wins in this one back window brigand jobs that were going to last before it doesn't mean it can't happen at him to call you the shoe horn cuz you could just shoot for Thursday. On Friday or the Brian pressure. Anyway, we've got to be like a dog I am going to take the underdog and I'm going to pick Ian blochwitz. This is a fight. It's very strange. I'm not even I don't know if any of you guys are like pumped up for this fight. It just seems like a whatever kind of fighting those for the 205 them belt. I think Ian is one of these he's a Polish, you know Psychopaths one of these like tank dudes. I think he's going to give Dominic grade as a real problem. I think, you know, it could end. Either way. I can see it ending, you know with Dominique and with the on winning, but I think he's a pretty good Underdog pick. So I'm going to pick you on block which via TKO. Well, you know actually left his country for Poland is Sean McCorkle. Yeah. I sold out here. I am actually beat the world's strongest man. He renounced his citizenship to the US you are now a citizen of Poland in the rain. I hope you do it after the fight dog house key and he's our national hero and no one was cheering or anything. So I said Poulin was my new favorite country over the US and everybody went crazy. And then I didn't think anybody would I figured I was like twelve people watching the game. Who cares but it was like apparently a scandal of some kind but I redeem myself when I put on Twitter the next day. I said how many Pollocks does it take to beat Sean the court qualified and I set apparently more than one even if it's the strongest one month later in like me after that. They got married when I was over there because they asked I have what appears to be a Nazi tattoo on my chest. It's a eagle a Roman Eagle which I covered up my ex-wife's name with and when they ask you about it, like my first friend the sauce, like holy shit you gotten out to Eagle and I was like, whatever the balance you didn't have an eagle turns out they did and they stole it from the Romans. So I just I got away with it by saying how long has cover up the day but one ruthless dictator with a symbol for another, you know, cuz I covered up my ex-wife's day with the eagle. And then when they asked me about over there was an option you go. I said no. No, I'm not an odyssey essay, but I do hate gypsies because I always thought was weird that Hitler hated gypsies cuz I thought Gypsy was a lifestyle like carnivore hippie, but apparently from right? Oh, I know I get gypsies are raised in Poland. So I yeah, well, we're in Poland make the World War Two jokes that I hate Gypsies and that didn't go over real well before the fight so they had to apologize for subway station said don't really hate gypsies. I didn't know that was a race now back that you were single and you know, You could have any want to read a book or watch a documentary History Channel special National back then you and you told me you slept with every hot girl in Indiana when you register and and beat the strongest man. Did you at least get any person know people always asked about fight fight with men even after the fight. The last last thing that I was ever think about was women they everybody thought when I fought Lobster Stefan struve, I was up there chasing women the whole week. I was like, I was cutting twenty five pounds to make white man in his last World on your mind. I was off cycle, so I didn't have any testosterone so I quit taking steroids. So I get like you have no sex drive down on steroids. So like I had to go I had to go off test and HGH a month out in order to make weight and clear the drug screens if they were going to give me a test. So, yeah, I would I had zero testosterone in my system cuz I have to take testosterone legitimately like to a doctor but I didn't know you could get the PRT extension that back then UFC. I just never brought it up. So I'm just quit taking it a month out. And it wouldn't show so when you were in Poland you were still on steroids right before well, yeah before but I still would I had to make wait for him to on the first fight. So I had to like I think we had to do a job too. I think we did 285 like weight limit or whatever something like that. So I had to cut for that one too. But now it's a when you're when I'm fighting that's all I was thinking about was Finding. I was high you don't go out to a club and I you know, I actually went where do I go? I don't I went to some club with I want to say who but some other guys and they were all dealing cocaine which isn't my thing. So I left there and just went back and the second time I log in when you lose. I remember should these guys that get beat up in a fight in the go out to the after-party like that's humiliating to me to be the you know, like even though you're lose the one of the best fighters in the world or mileage bujanowski when you're losing to college. I know what about Stefan struve. I did go I went back to his hotel room and hang out with him all night as odd as that was a we ate like a birthday cake. He like it was really weird, but it's yeah whenever I lost man I didn't wage. To I don't want to be anywhere and when you win it depends on how beat up you are sometimes I feel like yeah. Read it off. Each other's chests. Fuck. Well when you when you won UFC a did you party afterwards. I know I know it was back before or bars and see what the Studio 54 in New York City. They had a small bowel after party and you know back then it was like they don't know if they're going to get arrested and shut down or what's going on. So, you know, it's kind of an odd after party. It was really quiet. I'll tell you in Austin. I was on my best behavior because you know bomb Iraq are dailies were there and is my first tournament win. So I had you know, I want to make you depressed and one of them. I'll tell you a funny story about gone. So Dawn, Don was commentating my fight. We were in Texas. I don't know if you remember dog, but we were in Texas and God was always a hero of mine. I felt weird even talking to him because he's like, you know, like one of my heroes in life since I Was Eighteen watching them and and so like I talked to him all week hang out with and were tried to anyway him and Carl Parisi and watched them to argue politics was amazing. But especially when Carl was high that was fun. So but so I read watched the tape of my fight where I lose to a guy should never lose to I hurt my back 3 weeks out was able to train it all and I just gassed out in the second round. We're finding elevation down in El Paso, Texas. So the oxygen wasn't there. It's just a bad bad week, but I had said I had made jokes about how much Indiana sucks I said like in Indiana, it looks like The Hills Have Eyes 3 as being filmed twenty-four hours a day everywhere you go. Everybody's ugly. Everybody's done. So wage come out dogs, He's like India is favorite son. He loves that place. I'll tell you why you should know about how much he hates everyone in D. And how ugly are some dogs like letting all my fans and people who need apple juice. Gave them back sounds like they have a cord looks out of shape, which I was it's done and then he's like I get hit with the first light tickle fight. He goes man. He looks about done. I was like dang donyell killing me. Like I suck at fighting going to watch the baggies. Like they have a quarter looks like even another one of those like kids. It was just a small kid guy was like he yeah, he told me up but I deserved I was in shape and you know, the fight was awful. I remember me and Greg Wilson did the video Comedy Tour made me Monique Alexander at San Tripoli, and we went out that night afterwards and you were like get off. Why do you go are you go screaming and yelling and like they had to call it was like it was like a dog that like got a home for the first time and was running everywhere else like a fucking Maniac the dog that got home and women cook. I have no recollection of this. I I completely deny this the experience. I don't now I I don't know. I don't deny that it could have happened but I certainly do not but he didn't actually happen didn't actually get any cooking that night. I think we were I don't remember. I don't remember how long we've already in Chicago. That's right. I got Coke. Oh you were in Chicago and it was we were there with the two hottest girls from the video. Right? And they were supposed to Comedy and get naked off the tour ended up them on stage with like like a scarf and like a jacket on and then Greg Wilson and his boxer shorts running around the stage pissing everyone off off doing him. Like it was a WWE and we ended up making a girl from the crowd and having her fake an orgasm and putting whipped cream all over her face while she does it. It was just like most fucked-up show you've ever seen your life. It was pretty funny. Well everybody everybody knows everybody thought it was going to like the pornstars would come out and dead. Warm stuff, you know and show their kids and show their ass and swallow banana or some shit but instead the poor girls acted like it was inside the Actors Studio and they wanted to sit there and not take questions about the art form of pornography and and and and and people want to do see dirty shit. They wouldn't do any of it. So then we started we started go through these ship. So we started like we had like the fake blowjob contest and we we we would Silly String in our pants and and would shoot it out of fact, we we are allowed to have that's all I wanted my underwear as we were we doing a lap dance competition. We're doing anything to kind of make it, you know, I am having a competition and none of the girls. It was off it completely. Yeah, it didn't go exactly and especially the audience heard that the I heard the next week Brendan Schaub came in and performed a comedy show and all the fans there that were there said that they long for the good old days when Adam was given back to Red with whipped cream so bad shows down and one of the girls we were with like she was super cool. We're having a great time and I'm like, is there a Vibe here? Whoever shot to like, maybe you know and I think that was why I was trying to get Coke cuz I thought of I got a coked-up maybe she would want to pull around back then and so we go back to a room and she gives me one of her porno videos like here just take this and go have a good time tonight. And all right, so go back to my room. I start watching the poor no video on my laptop is taking these monstrous Cox and and I was just like, I don't think I'm going to I don't think I want to do that. I guess that I got no business here. I'm going to look up page. She doesn't need this. You know, that's so funny. I did a point check the same thing. She was like don't judge. She had I found her horn and on one cover was her naked I go. This is beautiful. Over he's got like a dick in each hand. He goes don't judge me. I don't judge of Comedy. I don't have two dicks on stage on telling jokes and then I got apartment. Anyway never worked with Don Frye. What are you doing this week? Yeah, I got to run around. You know, I go to run some drugs across the border and then just win some people human life human drugs. Then I gotta go down way down the bottom of South the delivery of firearms. You know, I just realized on Fri is doing my impression of Don process. It's like I'll do it myself. I love you. You're the greatest of all time. You're mine is going to be the president isn't as good as my page. Was William Shatner a cool guy to work with. William sat her did not speak to anybody. But the director. Oh, man, you said Richard Grieco is the best actor you ever worked with right? Yeah, yeah guys amazing. He was amazing and really cool guy to you know, I mean generally everybody's nice to me, you know, but Thursday except for William Shatner, you know, especially especially when they're director told him that I was actually somebody with a couple fans, you know, so, you know, I had a nice and fans which maybe twice going to shatter as so it just came off the face of shattered didn't talk to anybody for sure has a going to an acting coach for the last fifty years so we know that well that movie by the way if you guys want to see a good movie, I'm going to watch it this weekend haven't seen it yet. I'm gonna watch it but it's good. You guys called Fury of the Fist and the Golden Fleece and it starts at 9 and on Friday and it's about the biggest point the seventies must reclaim his Mojo By saving all male kind fighting his way of the heart of conspiracy sell meat pumped full of emasculate men. It's with Danny Trejo. Jason London. Sean. Whalen Cynthia Rothrock Bill Goldberg Richard Grieco, Ron Jeremy. Who's now in jail time for Michael Winslow Jeremy London Genesis Imaging Don Frye. Okay are all in this movie. So I got a good Bill Goldberg story for you. Not really. But okay. So I'm I'm at the Affliction show where fate or fought Tim Sylvia this before I was in UFC, so I was only famous on the internet but I was had just actually met Donald Trump and his son who looked like he had been Derek out here in Desperado Donald Trump jr. Did which was hilarious to me. But yeah, I so I'm standing there and I hear somebody say, excuse me, buddy. I got to get in here and I turn it around. It was Bill Goldberg. I cut the line that I've been sitting for like twenty minutes and I said nah, man, I'm good. I didn't realize with him for Saddam. Have you got away any time I got to get out of turn around and I saw him and I don't know if you remember Bill Goldberg tagline back in the day. I probably should preface this but do you always say who's next after he would faked beat someone up? Yeah, and I he said he had to get in our turn around and so I'm sorry, I didn't realize who's next few. Laughs the government looked at me as long as your Bill Goldberg he goes. Oh, oh my God. Okay, like he loved it. Like he started laughing and he goes, I mean, yeah, you're still not cutting but I'm just like, you know, you know, whatever like I still would let him so I walked in with Bill Goldberg said he was cut the line so it was off so and I guess the story with his wife and I strip club also in this movie, by the way. also had Build over at night did a fight and they car wash at nighttime and we we did this we did a half hour fight and I don't even know if it made it back into the movie, but it was a great time and the only problem was I had that was at that time. I had those broken rods. It didn't know it and so I wasn't moving this fluent name is Bill was and he picks one guy who was about two hundred two and a quarter had seemed to me and I went and I can't hold his stay much longer. I just said now and I just kind of we need my way throughout throughout the rest of the Shelf also seems like I've been carrying shutting of this whole movie. I got to carry this guy also on his movie. By the way. I forgot is Bianca damn Chuck Zito Tommy Davidson, Don the Dragon Wilson Shawn Stone Victor Ortiz, Gene lebell, Judo Gene called home. I believe it's called Coke residue you have Tehran the comedian and yeah, so they're also in this James it's called it's called Fury of the Fist and the Golden Fleece watching it today. Sam Jones is in it, but it just keeps going Maryse mizanin. I don't know who that is. Simon re it just keeps going but yeah, a lot of class of people are in this by the way, so home, of course. On Friday in the best one CT Fletcher is it's got a lot of people it's got a lot of people there's a lot of fun making that movie. I'll tell you it was fun or making that movie than it was watching it in the buildings. Do you have an agent or how's that work? What's his name? God dang, I can't remember the name. Now the the judge the UFC judge from New York City. He's off a stunt coordinator. I can't remember the damn name God dang, but you got me into the movies then ended up getting my sad card, you know, but before that Frank Shamrock had called me up and he was in a movie with a few other guys and they needed some money to fight Tom Sizemore, you know, so I went in there and I got beat by Tom site in the movie in a flashback size one was quite an addiction at the same time. So it probably wasn't really a fair wage. What was he alive or is he dead? I thought he was dead, but then he was in something. He's still alive. He is still alive. He got killed in Saving Private Ryan. I remember that. Allegedly, I heard a story about him on that set like he like left and came back with like an STD on his face or something. So they had to like like prolong shooting off, but that's allegedly so but also Don Frye you were in the diggers you were also in Killam. All you were in Quad you were in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Big Stan with Rob Schneider. No rules. I mean you've been in so many Godzilla obviously, obviously it just keeps going on and on and on. So yeah. Yeah, I got real lucky. I got real lucky. Yeah, I mean, I would love to see a down space and have his moustache find it. That's what I want to say. Yeah, you ever get an STD done except for my mom. Yeah off ex-wife which ones you give you. When you don't get rid of the old helps happens happens, we'll listen that is our podcast. I'll leave it at that. What's the worst thing is, you know, I will be at the Minneapolis House of Comedy October 1st to the 4th at the Mall of America Minnesota house of, Dick Gregory to coming up. No, but I've been doing my fantasy football podcast look it up on Soundcloud or Apple iTunes Apple podcasts. It's fantasy football harsh reality Queen dog go and subscribe to my YouTube channel. It is called the Joe Perez show. I am halfway to 1000 subscribers when I get that one hunt where that one 1000 subscriber Mark, I can start monetizing my videos the tracking a couple cents, you know every month. So that would be a huge huge accomplishment for me. So go to the Joe, press show on YouTube McCorkle anything coming up? Yeah all week. I'll be trying to convince her a bank to loan me money on a half-million wage. Without any provable income. So that's my challenge. This is there like like you say we just understand how you pay your bills and I'm like well, why does it matter and they're like, well, you know, you haven't bought a record, but you make $18,000 a year. So we're just trying to figure out how your house your house is paid off. How is you know, like they always ask you questions. So something's not the IRS asking the same questions. I'm fine. But yeah, I'm trying to convince them to loan me money on a house. I just bought so which I bought a house for twenty acres and a 4,000 square-foot house cuz I figured that's a good thing to do when you don't necessarily have a career lined up for the future. Like why not go ahead and go out on a limb like that. So yeah, that makes sense. Well, thank you guys. You guys are the best you're the Brandon shop of real estate investor birth birth.

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The Business of MMA

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

1:29:53 hr | 11 months ago

The Business of MMA

"Today's episode of Area Hawaii's Ma show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised in terms Back in your life on this Wednesday November twenty seven two thousand and nineteen. Hello everyone. I'm Mary a Hawaii. Welcome back back to the PODCAST. Great to be here on this Thanksgiving Eve in New York City. If you're celebrating hope you're getting ready for Thanksgiving with loved ones for the best holidays of the year. You get to sit around. Eat a lot and talk about what you're thankful for. I'm thankful for all of you. Honestly sincerely it's been a great year here you're at ESPN. I I love doing this. Show as I've said many times I'm excited and thankful for the fact that my buffalo bills or planning tomorrow after the first time since one thousand nine hundred four but in all honesty there is a lot to be thankful for in the world of mixed martial arts and each and every week on this particular program we talk a lot about you know the news of the week. The fights in the events the drama but this particular week actually wanted to focus on a particular topic. That doesn't get talked about enough in my opinion. And that is he business of and so on this particular episode of the show that is going to be the theme throughout we are going to be talking to three influential people in the sport maybe not household names maybe not names that you may know right off the bat if I say them to you but to three very important people and important because of three very different reasons so we're going to be focusing on three different aspects of the business side of mixed martial arts later in the show we're going to be talking into a man who is very important. As far as sponsorship is concerned his name is Hans Mellencamp. I assure you every single fighter and manager on the planet Noz who this man is you may not know who he is but he is a very important figure. As far as sponsorship is concerned and that's very important for the fighters because when they're not fighting this is how they make their money money and he helps support them so I'm looking forward to talking to him for the first time. Middle The show. WE'RE GONNA be talking to Tiki Gossen. Who is a former U. OF C. Slash W. in many other different promotions fighter? But now he has become a manager for the likes of Dominic race. Rampage Jackson one arch Aleta. Brian Ortega it's got a nice little stable going and so I'm curious about making the transition from fighting to managing and what that is like for him mm-hmm but I very excited to say hello to a man who have wanted to have on the show for quite some time His promotion as w based in Poland has been doing wonderful things things and I'm I'm very impressed with what they have built over there in Poland not just in Poland but across Europe They do things a little differently. I love the pageantry three at love the way the shows come across on television or on my device and they've really built a nice foundation for themselves over there so it is a pleasure and honor to say hello right off the bad to the CEO and Co founder of KS. W Mr Martin Levan Dusky. WHO's kind enough to join us from Poland Today on the program? Martin how are you unbearable. You know through here all that story enough. There's so many years of being in the business that we have a chance to talk okay and live yes. It is a great pleasure and I'm being honest and sincere. I'm a huge fan of what your promotion has been doing. I like that you do things a little differently. I love the the pageantry Gentry in the pomp and circumstance and you guys are doing great job and I know you have an event coming up In less than two weeks and we will get to that but first I want to start at the beginning because I understand the story of how W was founded founded is somewhat unique. How did you start test? W way back when and when that was back in two thousand four I was the promotion manager anymore. Marriage phthalate so how would be talent to business and the wind. I was the one who was looking for different in sports to promote for the Polish market and I was in charge for everything but you can think of about the sport. It's not only about the the promotion of the hotel the outlet but sports was one of my And I've been doing several different and even with the Super Bowl American football with foam Lewanda et CETERA. But you know from from when I was teenager I was practicing different martial arts nothing awesome from crew then boxing kickboxing and then. Of course I end up with 'em and that was something you know which was yeah. I was very passionate about for years and in two thousand I think it was two thousand to two thousand three because we count recall whole exact date. I've met my current business partner Monty and we just said you know champion spores about you guys know you. You have to know the place so we also have in Warsaw one of these and we start talking and we just find out that we have the same question about martial-arts that we know. Oh what pride was done day. We were very how we were we. We were big fan of pride days and you know we just get together for quite a long time talking about the possible events We call it K.. And W in which in translation is martial arts confrontation and we were looking for for different fighters represent different districts needs and that's probably promoted about probably started Put this show together so there was cone crew guy versus karate judo doodo versus Ratcheting Guy etc etc so it comes with a passion of two guys. You know claim students. I might say because I was was this promotion manager who beside as I mentioned before was promoting. Not only the coach out about everything was was was around fallen and and I was looking and focusing for the new disturbing and you know tried. The day was a huge. You know that was something we really WanNa wanNA reach one day to the level of fries and so after fifteen years because this year actually we are celebrating. Thinks she's been here's our fifteen serie. I must say that We're Kinda much better than trying to use to be in those early days back in two thousand and four thousand five. What was the like trying to put on an event that you are trying to put on in Poland? What kind of attention were you getting? Was it hard hard to get people to come to the event to sell tickets. How difficult was it early on? That was that was actually horrible. Horrible task to be on this because we know that he was associated with every Bad aspects you can think of starting from the people case fighting dogs fighting thing you know illegal fights everything you're seeing your sports shooting be people that were associated thing and then they plus. You had the huge love of walks into a community judo wrestling. So these guys were also fighting without because they knew what's coming But yeah but the the the the first things first Our first steps. We're really fighting with stereotypes. So the first couple of shows it was under the batter agreement so there was no money involved or there was some connection like private collection so we can to build something and shows that this is a real sports but Thanks I was working for this place. I mentioned before I had a lot of connection with media people so that was something we really help build caves w very close and and just being up a little bit with it doesn't open because from the Canes that'd that'd be one I had Kinda plus one of the TV station. Who did maybe like? I know Kinda short you know movie about what's going only known it was more like a kind of new side but from the case W. Second I already had the chance to to Get an finding agreement agreements with one of the biggest Police Sport Channel but doubts from phone from their perspective was more like kind of investment for the future indiscipline and they were right like you know they on the right host house and really horrible to to talk incumbents. It's everybody that there is a sport. It's nothing illegally that that they are rules so I think every country probably like fifteen own twenty years ago Most of the promoters phase the same problem yes and of course there was no structure. There was no benchmark You so you can you can you can show and say listen. We're going to do this and that it will look like the same so in Poland was completely zero. Of course there was something going on. uh-huh was more like in like in the discos you know in some dirty Underground clubs so the PR was really bad. As you know here in America you WanNa put on an event you have to have it. Regulated by one of the State Commissions. Is there such a system in place in Poland. was there one back then. And and it's not as their one now. No there wasn't and there is no still there isn't any I have opened actually. MMA pulling all in this association this is another structure and other non the pain knowing the company because it's a sociation and we tried to build This in in in terms of making the real and the Polish Association so there we'll be structures there will be you know huge. I'm not so community. But there was no regulated. He tells me what and how to. Of course is there is a like CEELO. Which tells you what you can do with you doing the massive event but there is no like sports commission? There's no like unto Doping Commission in which we chose you will you. I mean you have. I mean we have kind of Wada sort of thing in in in Poland but they cannot force me to do anything with that you know so it's not like it's more like a on based on the civil law or the law of making huge message events. This is something you try and neutral okay And in the early days my understanding is used to have a lot of one night tournaments. But you stopped doing that. Why because it was the cheapest to be on the cheapest option you have a guys Eight mention them and and you have seven seven fights you know in the same day and of course the money were completely different. Not only because he was like ten or fifteen years ago it was and just because he is not the only one five. But you have even if you have a free so it's a it's a different option. So they'll only the economic reasons and But you know when we grew and become professional we've become more visible on the market when we had the TV life coverage Rachel when the media started to talk about it so we just suffered with was All those injuries which happened during a team so we started I because like many tune them and in one day you WanNa show then. We divided split into two shows. And then like I don't know maybe up to ten news. I don't remember exactly when it happened when they we decided that detested he just wanted to fight every fight. It has one fight and one night and so maybe it was just. It's only economical reasons. Do you recall when what year which event you started to feel like okay. We are turning a corner where we're starting to make it. We're starting to make an impact we're starting to become profitable. Do you remember when that happened. You know Kay's W I I sustains w six or seven was actually the time when I Started to an. I quit my job and I quit job which was very descended. Cajones to be honest with you. Know great celery epithets over huge marketing to carry around the world. I'm talking about still in in the in the hotel but I got into so deeply into MMA and and more so Focusing on that that I decided to and that was two thousand six And I just open my business partner real company on the gay. They'll be brands. And we started to being professional promote. And that was the day when I you and I both and I expect then I believe I can make much more money money than I've been doing in working for for the American in two thousand fifteen after thirty seven events you held your first event outside of Poland Holand. You went to London England for of you thirty two row to Wembley. Why did it take so long to get out of Poland? and was that always part of the plan. Or is this just a byproduct of of your success you started to realize. Hey we can make an impact outside of this country as well yes. It's you know when you started with such a lot of The suit comes into that. VR was talking about so we were happy when we go and we grew and in a bit when you start to see and people start to see out there and I see as a sport discipline so England came very late. It was just because we didn't feel you know Secure you know or confident. Then we can make it happen and we can make Success because that was something we didn't want to go outside the full and being so successful they bowling and go abroad and just fail so I think it took about the. Yeah Eh just to overnight in the unaligned if it's a good move to go outside the phone and if we can make the same impact but you know it just sir my name until some businesses. It's quite a lot for fifteen years. Become one of the top grant he within the industry about seeing Looking back in history when you started with the Ground Zero really so I think fifteen. It's really quite a decent time to to build what we have been So so yeah just you. You know he was just so it's not like when I think about the false so there's the wasn't making a strategy that that in ten years I'm going to do this and that no when you grew you just become coping and you become more become more Sure that you can make it happen that you have some sources sources you can bazo. UK You have you know people you know you you you a mentor. Just just be you know how to deal with it So this is why this is why you know. We just decided to go to London. Then we'd say and honest to Ireland and this year we came first time in Cratia Cratia. So we're going to stop on the on these three countries. Now you've done fifty you're about to do fifty eight events you're about to have your fifty the eighth on December seventh case of fifty two as you mentioned fifteen years doing this. Do you consider yourself competition for the UFC or do you think you occupy a completely play different lane. Do not concern yourself with that. No of course we are you know in the same market so we have to see each other as competitors but you know seeing thank you see doing and global they are. Obesity are so. It's hard for me to tell that we are competitive for sure you. They're coming to Poland. So Oh yeah so I think even I must say losing all the race with in terms of finding no media coverage Saint Review Sales. How attractive the show is so really? We are winning on. This is our homeland thinking. We've been building and working for so. Oh my knees so it's just called difficult due on show every two or three years and just to expect that you are going to be so Successful at USC in in in US but globally no. It's just like you know the huge giant and and I know where's my place and I know where K W we strong okay and where our good assets where good and weak point so unrealistic and so right now like when when when we compared the FCC popularity in Poland Simon close you're saying you're saying KYW's infinitely more popular gets more attention media fan wise than the UFC does. That's right and that's true like probably that's what I found out that they like people willing to train you seeing us so this is what happened. Component people wanted to train. They did show that we are such a huge brand. You know I mean. Of course it's changes but still we are like pioneer. Are you near in on this market. So we WE ARE BMA here in Poland. You know we have like ninety five percent of the market We'd be definitely. Could I ask your purses compared to the other European organizations and maybe even to the UFC you your highest paid fighters. What are they making us? Okay I mean you know more than the million more than a million badly. AH The bay tech you know right now. Of course for the top the top fighter like it and You know typical big event. How much are you generating contel my friends? I know that this is a sexy Information but this is something we are avoiding too long. Then let's keep it. I mean because there's no a law or there is no there there is no culture say I don't have to do it right. Okay why should I tell you know. Because he's always bring Stein those crazy crazy emotion to the people. I know that that's what I said the sex thing formation but I know they're not for example in the US You need to tell unclear how much you earn all much. Of course all these Financial Institution new volunteers. They know exactly. Because you know we all know my country entry but we don't tell it publicly and fighting doesn't tell how much they earn so you don't have to tell how much they earn either and also just like I think so I mean you know just compare to compare there were. There were a couple of cases that some of our fighters refuses USC history contract. Because of the money. I mean they lowered the mummy Khalil. And that was just because of the money. So we should sell you or I'll give you the onset that We pay money by the then. USC of course in some cases because he's like for example. Mari Split Down Those Steve The fifth on strong a Strongest men means the world. That would be over here but probably for you. He's maybe worse I don't know then thousands doors you know and he's could you say confidently compared to the other European organizations that you guys are the most successful in cage warriors Bella Tours doing you. You know European series. There was Bama back in the day. Like do you think that you are the most successful European based promotion right now. I would say Jason but I would rather ask you. Are you see that. Well I don't see the number is I don't see the figures but you're events certainly are a massive you know like the spectacle is incredible. I love the pageantry like I said I loved the the ring announcer that you have and how different everything is. I love that it has a little bit of pride to it as well. I guess the question and I'm wondering is forget Europe. Do you have plans to come to the United States to expand and put on events here. Yeah just let me on so the question because I think comparing engaged with the ballots and cage warriors. We are the only one I mean. Compared with the cage warriors we keeping finance you know in our team and we are four we can afford to pay them That's one thing. The problem with those two players. I think that sending purview. We we do celebrate. There'd be Reduced Vapor View in more than ninety two countries. So this is something which also gives you the The image of of of. Ah this show. We are doing the show every hour show every each hour show Is around ten thousand people. Of course we're doing some things eight something slow. Sometimes sometime Flinty but everage is ten thousand nine ballots nine cage warriors. Done doing that show and we can name a couple other promotions. She's so this shows how successful we all. Of course I didn't line this comparison in the sense. Because I'm working with these guy but you know in terms of business this. I think it depends on what you're comparing yourselves we need. You know the number of the events in Europe probably bellotto each week but we know the numbers of audience. We are winning. Definitely you know so it depends on what you are taking on the consideration and about your views are you selling on average could ask that no one hundred thousand more than the folks four hundred. No no no no everage. Yeah we might. We might say that. That's just like I know everage. Okay what did this way. All right fair enough yeah so about the UFC USA case W. Anyway there is a plan I have planned. But it's just that would be. Yeah show like in vary owning. Say That for the Polish crowd just because I know that we have police stars and they might be very attractive. Full all police from anywhere. That's why I just oh and I know I'm really think that's what they said that the USA is home for me. You have seen in Balata any will be hard to compete so it would be more like you know. We're going to play the Russian road coach for Polish community any team USA. That's how I see won't be my second third or even home. Okay W we generating revenue immune from but because of time and you know those huge players like they don't pay fellow is growing very nicely so so You guys got huge. Some senators out there so it would be more like Amri for you. I was going to show that we are alive still alive yes while you're doing a great job like I said It has been a lot of fun watching the rise of cased. Most of you and I always get excited when you have one of your shows because it's just different and It's it feels new and fresh but it also reminds me of the old days of pride back in Japan Dan. You've produced a lot of great fighters names like Karleena Koehler cabbage. We saw recently. Yon Behove it's with a big win over Jacques. Ray Produce a lot of Polish fighter's and you've given the opportunity for some other fighters to get opportunities to continue their careers and reinvent themselves. People like Scott Asham and and Norman Park and of course as you mentioned Mary's pushing Ascii the world's strongest man. And you've got the Great Mama collie coming back on December seventh as well. I'm looking forward to that. Is Case of you. Fifty two going down in Poland. And that's a big main event. Vent ask him against Khalaf so I WanNa wish you the best. This was a lot of fun. Martin I really appreciate it and I appreciate you explaining what you guys do. What makes it so special and I wanna I wanna wish you all continued success and hopefully we'll be able to see you here in the United States in the near future as well? Yes I'll be back from next year. But not with the show show by myself for fighters only awards probably yes. I know you're proud of that nomination and I hope you do get another one. Yeah thank you very much. I'm glad to hear and talking at a chance to think that you could take them anytime. We'll talk to you soon. Various Areas Martin Levin doffs key the CO founder and CEO of chaos. W so that's the the promoter side of things and of course there are many different promoters working king inevitably these days. Like I said I mentioned some of those promotions as you have seen the most dominant one we talk about them a lot. We talk about them as well cage warriors. PF L. But I really was curious about this case W. promotion which doesn't get enough attention here in the United States because they are doing a lot of their business in Poland but they really do deserve a lot of that credit. They've had a phenomenal almost year. And they're putting on a massive shows over there if you haven't had a chance to watch him December seventh next week. During the day it will not coincide with U. OF C. event. I suggest you check them out because they really do put on a great event so like I said that's the promotion side of things in a moment. 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CWC DC fighter now manages the likes of Dominic race and Brian Ortega and Quinton Rampage Jackson Check Congo Archer Letta great guy. Legend of the sport dare dare. I say he's kind enough to join us right now. Tiki how are you. I'm doing great. Thank you aerial. It's good to talk to you. Thank you yes yes you forgot one major part I ah fighter transition to train her then manager. That's right there was an in-between there. Yes thank you for for letting me and also arguably the most famous goatee in the history of mixed martial arts with the blonde streaks in there so let me ask you. When did you decide to make the move? Because fighter trainer minor is a natural move. We see that quite often but furniture trainers the manager is not a move that we often see. When did you decide to make that move? So it kind of I'd tape fell in my lap around when visiting left his management back in the day Wolves letter and you know I was helping them out. I was training them as well and started helping them with the communications and media anything with the UFC and him and through. That I kind of you know started to dabble a little more a little more and being a fly on the wall on many different discussions or different negotioations you know ranging back to win Tito Ortiz. It wasn't You know from what we did is You know learn stuff you hear things and it's and it's a lot I it's a lot easier to To navigate through these conversations and negotiations between the fighters and and the promotion because you kind of know both sides. What's what's benefited is not just having a no bullshit type of Conversation with the promoters I get what they want. I know what the a fighter wants and sometimes you know what they what each of them want a little bit skewed in their favor of course but as long as you can figure out you know the main points and and figure out a way to make Mesh. It's it's a win win when you are a fighter. How many managers did you have? Throughout the course of your career. You started back in nineteen ninety. Data's pro ended in two thousand nine. How many managers did you have during that stretch? So oddly enough. My first manager was being away really. Yeah Yeah I four. Four M ever may fighters that he was representing myself. It was John Lewis Chocolate. Alan Tito Ortiz. Wow what year was this when you started working with them. This was to two thousand. Okay how did you link up with him so back in the day we were traveling to Las Vegas to train but John Lewis and And that's kind of like where the whole Tito Chuck Saugus started. Because you know we're all training together and John Lewis had met Dana and was kind of showing Jujitsu to the fatigue and Dana White. That's kind of how we all linked together. Wow that was the connection. And how long did you work with him for I think he was about about almost two years and then they bought the UFC and he couldn't manage just anybody. What was he like as a manager? Dana sharp he's always been he's always been a sharp business man he's always had you know he's been in the boxing game so he kind of understood. I think he managed a few boxers. There's Derrick harmon read and it was just a good experience you know it's kind of being able to see how he did it you know like I said it's just one of those things the euro round from back in the day and you just pick up things and after Dana. Did you sign with someone else. I've had a couple of different guys. I had Dan out and then after I had a Wayne Hermit helped me out of it and then after that it was bobby and so the reason I'm asking asking by. How many do you feel like your experiences? As a fighter dealing with manager is dealing with promoters but as a fighter. Do you feel like this has helped you become a better or manager and does this give you knowledge that you know these other managers that come from maybe the law world or a different sport. Just don't have they don't have that ingrained in them. It's just tough. You know right now. The the error may landscape for managers and whatnot. It's kind of like the wild wild west. I think there's not a lot of guys that have been in it from the beginning in English. Not a lot of people that understand the sport from the beginning and they think they can just come in and pushed their way through everything you know and and keep pushing keep pushing doesn't matter who they piss off doesn't matter who they cause friction with so the answer your question yes absolutely. I think there's a huge benefit of you know being able to understand Dan that and and coming from that background. What kind of relationship do you have with Dana White Now I? I've always had a good relationship identify which has been Nice. I tend to not burn bridges with anybody I like. I like. I like to stay friends. Haven't we been friends Dariel. We have yes a long time. Yes I I was just wondering because of course you have to have a relationship with you if you want to be successful managing fighters so's curious. How you navigate advocate that but you also have fighters bell tower and whatnot and perhaps what's the difference between negotiating contracts with the dominant league and the other promotions? I mean right. Now's the time and ever made it. It's kind of like back when when strikeforce was was also prominent. They what's happening. Opening now is the promotions are starting to pay comparable so what is doing. You're driving up the price which is nice. Why do you think that's happening now? I think because you know there's other organizations there's more money more money in the industry and there's you know there's competition competition breeds success. Yes yes and it gives fighters more options right and allows them to test the waters and see what else is out there. One thing that has been interesting to follow over with years was sponsorship because as you know when they instituted the reebok uniform deal a lot of fighters lost sponsorship. But I have a theory and I wanNA know how you feel about it. I feel like with with the rise of instagram. Particular fighters can actually earn more these days than they could've in the heyday of the spike TV slash sponsorship era. Because now you can you can be seen by millions of people on your instagram. have links over there and it's actually a lot more beneficial. I sponsor as opposed to being on someone's but and like you hope that someone googles you and looks you up. Is it possible that you know this era of there being no sponsorship money for fighters is over because of social media and in particular instagram. Are you sensing that as well I I am I think I think everything has transitioned into social media platforms. That's where the money's at that's where the where the fighters that's where the athletes that's where instagram influencers can make their money. It's not just you know having the the portal of the of the promotion. What's funny is you know back in the day Eh? We used to do this and fend for ourselves with sponsors. You know you'd have to go door to door you'd have to go to companies that you you liked and Kinda do it for yourself like that's what I did. I remember one of my first sponsors early I went in I knew I met. Paul Gomez was the marketing director and I had to go in there and and basically hustle for myself so so doing this from so long ago has helped me. And it's actually shaped me into being able to acquire the deals for for my athletes. So like at your peak. What's the most you've got? As far as sponsorship is concerned for a particular fight for particular fighter no particular fight like at your peak. was there a certain fighter jet. Just to get a ballpark. You want to you. You WanNA laugh. You WanNa see what I've fought in. What was it? UFC forty vendetta at the MGM. Grand Robbie lawler robbery law your purse was. I'd love to know Oh to and to come on really two and two. Yeah what that was on the pay per view you portion of the card. I know so when I hear you know when I hear guys you know athletes and that's one of the other reasons that I I choose who I work with. I don't just say I'm not just going to take on anybody I got you know I. I go through an interview interview process. I got to talk to them. See if they're down to earth because because I mean they have a good right now athlete fighters have it good and and everybody feels that they need. They deserve all this money but at the same time. It's you know I see it from the promotion emotion standpoint too. It's like okay. Well show me. Why are worth up So we tune to. What's the most you made for a fight? What is the most I made for a fight right? I think it was. I think it was strikeforce. I Made Twenty to fight Luke Stewart. Okay your second last fight in two thousand eight just twenty flat for ten and ten zero It might have been tended to my gosh and and for so for sponsorship. You're probably making nothing right. You're making you know the show. Wow so so now you see what the guys are making now and party. It's like man. I wish I was fighting. In this era I mean like to be a champion but like mid tier fighter that they're not making that always. I always think about that. And then I'll put like you know couple of training sessions together and I go okay. Screw that idea right. Well you started coming coming back. This shit hurts. Yeah I thought about it. You think about it all the time but you know being a fighter and coming from that world yeah you get rich every once in in a while. Let me ask you being with a fighter like you build up a fighter you invest time. Money effort you're helping train them. Negotiate contracts checks things like that and then they leave you. What does that like? It's part of the game you know from from the BF. Seen it from the beginning. I've seen people leave manager eggers. I've seen a Lotta you know there's this there's an entitlement some of the people some of the athletes you work with. Don't really know what you do for them. And they don't understand so you can't really really blame them and there's no sense in you know it's actually a client crying over spilt milk. You just Kinda you know. Let them let 'em transition. Okay no problem here you go. Oh you know you can't hang on to everybody so you with an athlete for a certain period of time you do the best possible where he can't for them and either they like like what you're doing and stay or they think the grass is greener on the other side and they take off. You have a contract with them or can they take off whenever they want. No of course you'd have a contract back with them and they'd have to settle up the contract before they leave. But okay what I'm saying. Is You know just you know it's not like you know back. In the day you get managers trying to strong-arm their athletes and keep them there right off and whatnot. And what about recruiting fighters says one thing that I hear about a lot is like this trying to poach that guy and this guy's trying to take my guy away in this and and what's your stance on that is it fair game or do you just wait for someone to come to you. You try to find your own. I I usually wait for them to come to me. I'M NOT GONNA go poke somebody that's not my style. It's like if you if somebody has a manager like figure out you deal with them and if you know if they release you or you're not with them anymore you don't have a manager you need some. Yeah we can talk but again it's GonNa it's GonNa be an interview processed. You're not gonNA take anyone you want to kind of vet them exactly. Yeah I'm not a volume agency. I'm more of A. You Know Newish Boutique style agents here and is it just you or do you have any partners. There's just me just you well and so how do you. How do you decide who you're going to actually train as well and managers you train all the guys that you manage you know? That's a good question so I wanted to transition out of that. There's a few athletes that I love training that I see they're driving. I see their work ethic and and also I've just been there with them. I've been training partner of theirs or we have a friendship and I like to help everybody else I think I have. I Have Enough Knowledge College in the game. Where the input I give Kinda helps out? So it's it's not like I'm going to go in there and be like okay. Look I'm your manager and I'm your coach. The the only guys I do that for basically rampage in Congo. Okay that's sometimes want archer. Let Al with a couple of cats now recently. You've got some great news because when you guys dominic race is going to be fighting on February eighth against Jon Jones for the light heavyweight title in that particular situation. How does that work from your perspective? Because obviously John on is the big dog right. He's the he's the champ. He's the one that everyone wants to fight. Does your guy get a new deal without trying to go into too much specifics. I know you. You don't WanNa piss anyone off but does your guy get a new deal. As a result of this title fighter is just the same deal and you have to take it. I think my guy is extremely happy. You might want to ask him okay. He's happy about this he's ecstatic and then things change. If you wins right things always changing your own the belt right and he would be your first. UFC champion no who did you have as UC champion two. Oh that's right of course you had him mm-hmm we just had a nice conversation with you just forgot about TJ. Well no I sort of not champion right now and and wait. Did you have him when he won the built or did you have him while he was champion. That's what I see. This is different. This is a guy that you're kind of with prior so it's a big difference admired. You're having a dog. Yeah Okay I see that okay Can I ask about that like just being now. The manager for someone WHO's out for two years suspension. He's owned up to it. I think he's done a phenomenal job of doing that. But he's lost sponsorship right you have to sort of stick with him through this and now try to eventually in a year so building back up. How difficult in that process you already know? What does that mean? I mean we're sponsors are coming back around. People wanted to become you know. Come back around you know. People are falling him with his You know road road road to recovery right you know you have to shoulder surgeries. He's coming back and I think I think we're GONNA see a better T. J. dillashaw when he's able to okay. Wow okay that'd be four. Which is which is scary to think about if there's one thing that you could change about the business of MMA what would it be? What would you like to see done differently? I don't know that's a good question I I it just seems like right now. Anybody in anybody you can get into him man. I guess the the you know you know how you going to go through the fire. I don't think a lot of people have gone through the a fire to be able to be in this industry. That makes sense okay so you think there are a lot of people kind of clogging the space pretenders looking to make a quick buck exactly. Yeah I mean from fighters to to agents to you know just people in it you know people trying trying to trying to lead into the into the market. Even there's even I mean I. I've run across some companies who have been trying to come into the game that you know. They're in it to make a quick buck during the to try to make a quick turnaround or they're in it for the wrong reasons and they're not really India may just into it because they think ooh the return on this might be good and and it's weird. It's it's it's a crazy time in the sport. If I would have told you ten years ago that it would be where it's at today on. Espn Dan the fighters making what they're making. Would you believe me or has. The success of the sport exceeded your acted ten years ago. Yes fifteen years ago when I was still active I would have been like fuck no way I mean we were doing this back in the day. We were fighting not fighting for money. We're basically fighting fighting for you. Know bragging rights the toughest right you know Oh and by the way you just fight your ass off and now you. Here's here's a thousand bucks right right. Enjoy your cash. Here's two grand. Oh thanks you know so. It was never about that. Do you think the person's can get even bigger comparable to to boxing or do you feel like we've hit a ceiling. No I think it's it's changing. I think it's definitely changing and I think the person will get bigger you trending in the in the right direction. Correct okay all right Ed from now from now in the next five years. Yeah we'll see. Oh Wow okay well. This has been great. Congratulations on all your success. As a manager and Of course you had a great career a nice career. I wasn't around as much for your crab watched. It didn't cover it as as much but now you've built a really nice stable. And congratulations on getting the dominant grey as fight February than Houston. I'm looking forward to that as well. They enter your very busy helping bryner take to prepare for his fight against chance on junk so we appreciate the time very much today. I appreciate it thank you all right. There is Tiki in the manager. Like I said for the likes of Forte. teigen raise T. J. dillashaw force spoke to him on Monday Trying to build himself backup and the great rampage Jackson who returns in December in Japan later in the program. I'll give you a little news about Bell tour and the Japanese market also Talk a little bit about the forbidden. Amalgamate off Tony Ferguson fight. That's been in the news this week but for now. Let's talk to the last of the trio of guests that we wanted to talk to you today. About the business side of the sports so spoke to a promoter spoke to a manager former fighter. Turn Manager. Now let's talk to someone who is on on the sponsorship side of things and like I said at the top perhaps not a household name to the casual fan but I can assure you that every fighter slash manager slash rush coach knows who handle campus. Let's say hello to Hans Molin Cap and find out why he is so instrumental to the fighters. Why so important? Why so many love him and and why so many hope that he sticks around for a very long time Hans how are you good? How are you? I'm doing great. It's great to have you on the show and you are so influential as far as the business inside of the sport is absurd so if I did a show like this where we focus solely on the business side of a May I had to have you on because I think that you have done an amazing thing for for fighters over the years and I think your story needs to be told and you're one of the few people who actually is able to work `harmonious Lee with the Bell Tower. which is a nice feather in your cap first first? Let's talk how you first got introduced to the sport of mixed martial arts. When did that Allstone ninety-nine Ken Shamrock Line. Then I've stumbled stumbled in there like just by sheer coincidence. I I work in action sports for a long time in the skateboarding industry and I just wanted to do something different. And so I went in there and started training and I didn't really like it that much there and I kind of made my way over to city boxing. In San Diego Dean Lister was training out of and And Jaakko Geico well neck and I just kind of stayed there and like got really really deep in Jujitsu and Tie Boxing with those guys. Then from there I sponsored Dean Dean for a couple of his prizefights for the shoe brand that we were doing and I saw the result and this is like early two thousands and I was had. No I win in Corner Dean gene with Jaakko For those fights and I saw the the reaction and I saw the reaction that we were getting from From a business point of view of what we did and it was you you know you know it was so like niche at the time it still radiated and I knew there was something there. And that's where I I really started getting deep into the business out of enemy. And what shoe brand. Dan was at O.. Cyrus Cyrus Okay and so that happens. How do you then take it to the next step So we were sponsoring bean gene and then what what subsequently happened with that you know there was there was there was a golden age where we're tough. was you know starting to starting to pop off and I was meeting A lot of guys coming down to our champ which one of them was the Santa and We ended up sponsoring Diego for his I think it was either the tough finale fi or one it was it was. It was fine against Kit Cope And again we thought we we. We saw the result like everyone that was that was working with the brand and the I mean we're I mean we're really big brand and national sports skateboarding and we didn't I I. Yeah I knew how how it was tracking but my partners and everybody else at that ran at that time. Didn't understand how big it was getting and but we like the next day you know everyone that had watched that fight right. You know because I think it was on spike back then They were calling us going to sell your logo. We saw your logo my God he goes. You're sponsoring fighters and it was. It was just catching so started. Then I just moved on. I started working with like Brennan Bear. I did We we made rampage shoe We're just doing a bunch and then in two thousand and it was like late. Two thousand five. That's why I broke off and I started my own company. throwdown and I was building cages and and in gyms and That's when I started making this first started making a equipment and apparel and that's like that was like when I got like seriously deep into it and I mean Scott Coker second cage strikeforce and I mean pretty much everybody's cage for for all the gyms around we were manufacturing like I mean there was a new you. There was a new like fight promotion every week. And we'd just be making changes for that. You know those were those were different times. And then and then I I Uh went from there and you know part of fall out and I started My brand try if united which you know stuck around. And he's still doing that now too you know that's fully equipment brand and you know we we. We worked with a lot of people from the start. You know what I mean. Same kind of names Kim Bo and rampage. I mean we're connor. Back in the day worked with the list goes. It was on with me pretty much anyone that needed gear and they started their career. You know in those early days we would. We would work with them and you know we we were working with. UFC paying the tax back of the before the Reebok days. You know I've seen it from every single angle from being an owner of a business to obviously doing what I'm doing right now for one of the largest monsters In the space and we will get to that sponsor in a moment. But I'm just crazy about the post tough boom because during that boom you know the sport was starting to get really popular. But it was also like a gazillion zillion brands out there and you as throwdown yet triumph. What was that period like? Like how hard was it to actually breakthrough and make money during that period. Okay so the the only reason I mean I I came from. I came from a from a direct. You know marketing background in a comparable sport which is like I said action sports so MMA in May was like kind of like a fringe thing at that point. And I and I had the tools from from being a photographer being a market understanding how to get the sales out there that I didn't have to go and rely on trying to build this. Massive business like everybody else was like dumping money like insane amounts of money into trying to start businesses and then they were paying the The athletes An exorbitant amount based on really just like like a we can no one could ever really justify what the reasoning why reason why for the you know the amount of sponsorship like so one fight would be like. Oh It's twenty thousand dollars for a lake or the next like it'd be five grand and it's just it would be balancing all over the place and that's why you saw. I mean the buried varied entry just like you know. A lot of things in the sport was really low. You got the money you could start a brand up but he could get right in. And if you're a fan you know if you were just a fan of the sport you could get next to these fighters you could get next to the sport in a way that you never were able to in the past and you would see these people that have no had no knowledge of of of real business. You know like Marketing manufacturing anything. They just wanted to be involved in they would. They would love her everything. They had their 401k's or her rows whatever just as started these brands in the sense that they thought they were going to be the next. You know at the time tab out were affliction whatever and you know they would just go and they would just just blitz it and then you see the brand you know out there for you know a couple of months and then it'd be the next brand and it'd be the next Brian and with me. I mean I just Kinda just I was in for the long I was never into to you know I saw differently like I knew that this sport was going to grow. I knew that the sport was going to evolve into something like it is now so I just. I just cruised it and he does. I knew that it wasn't going to be we made. We made quite a bit of money at the first couple of years just because the the the industry was just on fire and everybody he's picking it up but then once You know once it started once a crash started happening and The retail crash happened. You know I saw everybody lose and you know I wish yeah. I still have the shoe brands so I was Kinda doing both same time. Just cruise and I was able to maintain having my brand through. You know I mean that's close fourteen years now because I was never in it to just get rich all within it to make better equipment or you know just basically do it to help the athletes out. I mean 'cause I I you know obviously I'm really into it myself. I trained daily. I mean it's still my life like this isn't like I. I mean as much as I am a definite fan of the sport and a fan of of what this has become. I mean you take it all back and I would still just my whole thing is is that I am a practitioner of martial arts and I love it so it doesn't make a difference just to me if I make money or if I don't I just WanNa make sure that there's something there long term for the athletes to be able to have and now you're the director of combat sports for Monster Energy and that's the brand that I was talking about that. You see very visibly on the UFC octagon On on the canvas you also see them very much. A part of Bella toward these days is how did you get linked up with monster. And then how did you help get monster. So involved in the world of combat sports so Roughly around and like nine or ten years ago we've been monsters been involved in MMA for gone close to ten years now and it was very slow gradual process One one of one of a very very close friend of mine who's the Is Senior Director of all action. Sports at Monster Brought me on as a to to start working on a developmental program program for monsters very very rudimentary program that that we had no idea where it was going to go. And when I say that I'm talking about like it started off with like two athletes. You know I mean the first two athletes you know that were on it Were Michael Xiamen dominant crews and then we added Chiron spong and then we added Raby shocks. And I'm like they. They were just guys at all like you know like. I said they're people that I've always worked with that. I always knew could. Could you know like not only carry the brand well but I knew that that'd that'd be good representative. You know they would. They would represent the brand in a way that it would help grow it and so all of them combined you know through the years halt get it to that next level where you had chandler delatour. Yeah you know at that time you had Rampage was in Delatour or he was living in for he did bagging. UFC and then came back with all the tour and tyrone spong was in the world series the fight and we had sponsored so so how it worked out was the first event we ever did was a Event in Hawaii rich shouted and it was a a a Li event and I think it was the one that I am confused. Right probably was the parent company but elite XC was the event in which was one of the breakers. Yeah well there one. He took over and they changed back. Lee Oh that's right. They did they went back to pro. You're you're right. Yeah so he did that he did that and I and I. It was the first time crime that we put the logo and and got it approved to be on that and so that was that was the initial started it that started it and then the secondary part was the world's unquiet where we did a couple of fights with them and then it went from there to Bella tour and then once it was in for a it exploded because we're because then then I was able to use it it and kind of utilized that a lot of the the same you know sales marketing tactics utilized in action sports and apply it to you. Know you know two and and to the beverage world which was you know like getting getting a lot of the retailers involved getting you know the sales guys and ball to show that there was a you know meaning behind this whole whole program and Once that happened you know you saw. The enormous potential enemy was doing uh-huh the visibility. And how well like you know these. These athletes good for the company so that quickly expanded the brand as we got more athletes involved all and then We have the opportunity to work with. UFC and we did the AFC concurrent with the deal we had with Delatour and and you know they're two totally different. You Know Company and in my mind you know like as as I. I didn't feel like we needed to do one or the other. I saw that you know I wanted to be able to and I've seen how how this industry is treated the fighters like and I'm not saying you know like I wanted to be this massive just like brand blanketing over everything but that's truly what it became you know and you know we we wanted to be able to work with you. Know athletes in both spaces says which we do currently now and so we have the opportunity with UFC. We took it we you know. We became the the center matt sponsor for UFC along with you know with Delatour and then and we added Now we're working with you know. Glory kickboxing also. So we've expanded the brand into you. Know a very large sphere fear of MMA influence having you know some of the greatest names ever attached to it as well as some of the best organization. You've seen and done it all as far as sponsorship. AUTHORSHIP is concerned you. You saw the boom in the crash as you mentioned and now the era that we're in now I was talking to Tiki about this our previous guests and I'm I'm you know the the answer. Sure to this question better than anyone. There was a time early on in the. The Reebok era kicked off that everyone was lamenting the fact that sponsorships are gone. Fighters can make any money either making peanuts. The Reebok deal is helping the fighters attorney to fight. It's such an. I'm wondering now with the advent of of instagram. Social Media. If actually fighters can make more money I need than they ever were able to make the tough eras that possible. Well look. I think that that. That's a two part question in the first part is yes. I you think that that fighters absolutely can make more money if they actually set themselves up right with you know a team and and understand how the marketing any aspect works right. You can't just expect to be sponsored and I say this all the time just because you know you're you're you know like just say hypothetically that the number one fighter undefeated undefeated whatever but you don't have a strong marketing base and you don't have a strong fall and you're not doing all the things that really require you'd become a face. Not only of a May may face outside You're you're going to be a limiting yourself. You know from from the sponsorship perspective where years ago you know a lot of the the agents would just you know they would the hypothetical and say. Hey you're you know they would come to me. Say Hey like if I put a you know like I could put your logo on the shore. It's millions of people are going to see it and I would tell him the same thing go. But that doesn't equate the millions of sales and like yeah. A lot of people may see it but that doesn't mean that a lot of people are going to buy it and now you know with with social media you can actually track much better you can. So it's it's been and it's growing in a way that if you do how that setup you know you could be on you know me enough up and coming fighter and have very large reach in make a Lotta money and do pretty well and also help you know you know. Get your your career. Weird jump started with with the organizations. Just because you have that kind of reach but if you're not doing the work and you're just basically like okay. I'm just this great fighter I'm not GONNA I'm not gonNA apply. I too much into marketing or or building brands or branding myself. You know but I should be getting paid. That's not gonNA work either. So the probability of of making more money now is much tire just because there are more aspects are are definitely more like ways to do it cause to gauge the metrics than before and I think that I think that now the sport is more recognized. It's definitely more cleaned up. There's a lot more like legit sponsors that have that are willing to take you know like longer contracts out with athletes to to really get have them get behind the brand and you know they could use it and multiple phases to whether it's social the media whether it's on site activation whether it's just name and likeness to put it on catalogs in in display him on commercials. There's a lot more out there right now. So yeah this is a very good time for route. They right they can make a lot of money. How many how many fighters do you sponsor right now? For Monster Yeah I think it's close to thirty two. Wow and in total your all your brands. 'cause you you total all the brands shit. There's probably seventy really okay. And so would you say you're directly involved with sponsoring the most fighters in the sport today. Oh absolutely I mean in in in a way that it is. We're we're we're we don't do one off deals like every big deals would I do. They're they're longer deals. I I mean I won't do anything less than a year and you know I'm I'm directly involved with working with the play and you know the the agents and a lot of comes down to just knowing like hey this is a partnership ownership. You know as as long as we know that we can work together. We're GONNA stay together. These guys a lot of these guys have worked with you for a very long time and most of its because I know that they could perform the brand and people have to answer to. And it'd be when you're dealing with a publicly traded that is worth billions of dollars. You know you you're under a microscope and so if somebody is going to ask ask why do we have a so a part of our team. And what do they do. I have to come up with very very clear and concise answer fast And so you know everybody serves the purpose and everybody you know plays a role. And that's the thing is that like I have to be very in touch with these guys in in in knowing you know what -tations are on what they could actually provide one thing. I've always been curious about. Is You know you have the reebok deal. But then you have those fighters where they also get the monster logo on the deal. How does that jacket determined you? Guys pick those fighters in conjunction with the UFC. Is that separate from the deals. You do outside of the. The fight is at work. No it's just it's a completely separate deal that we deal went around okay so so so like you know I mean Connor Worry Moss at all right or yeah I mean like it's a separate deal that I that I work directly with the athlete and then you know we we kinda laid out the plans on how we know what we're planning on doing with them. How they're gonNA you know how they're going to be associated brand? You know what I mean like. There's there's some there's some of them that are are very you know like hey look your your We're going to target you heavy. You know and Latin America. We're GONNA argue. Did you heavy you know in Australia. We're GONNA talk Turkey heavy. You know for for Europe and we have we have very you know structured conversations about where they're gonNA go and why they're part of what they're doing what expectations are and and you know where their future is with us. And I'm not a kind of person that's just going to like just dump you because he lost the fight you know I mean I look beyond that I look at the look at the overall. You know person in in how they could be a part of what we're doing. And how their benefits too much greater level. I know that actually firsthand. Because of had a lot of managers and fighters say to me like thank God for Hans. Thank God for monster you know. We haven't haven't thought we haven't gone. We've been injured. I don't think a lot of fans realize that like when you're not fighting you're not getting paid but people like you are helping them get a the steady paycheck and sticking by. Let me ask you about tough decisions. If a guy like you reach the end of the road whether it's he's he's not winning he's not active. You've maybe doing things that you don't want associated with the brand. How difficult is it to cut ties? When you're with someone for several years it's difficult man because you get you their their family and it and it has become one of the things that you know that that you know like for me? I mean I travel a lot with these guys I personally you know. She photos of them for the brain. Like we're we're in deep and like you have to. Have you know a little bit of a different relationship than just a phone relationship. You know. It's not easy and a lot of times I do start giving them that has You know and and I'm like hey look we're here and when we get to there like if this doesn't happen you know this is what's GonNa end up happening with us and and I have to be honest about it and I have to let them know that that you know that. Unfortunately we can't go on if this is where you're at in in in in you know nothing's changing and they get it you know like in and I you know never been a part of a situation where somebody just completely lost it on me like they. They need to be a part of it. But you know most of the time it's like it's it's it's a it's like you know if a hard phone call to have like you never WanNa have it. You know but that's but I also encourage them to understand that like look. Don't I'm not shutting the door on you and not ever saying like this. Is it like you. You can't come back. I mean I'll just give you an example. Is that I how this I've had this conversation with with with two people in the last year. That was really tough. One of them was John Jones and one of them was TJ dillashaw. And they're both friends and you know like you know like you work with these guys and you know that you know how how they are as you know as athlete and people and you know that like you know outside of all this or you know like. There's they're saying that happen but you you know they're good people and you know that they're they're. They're worth their weight and Goldman Ron. So you have this conversation with John. It was like hey look I need you know I I got you know at this point right now. Now I gotta we gotTA move forward and we're GONNA move forward you know until you figure out or whatever happens with your career and Once you're back in it with the review it and let's talk about you know you know you coming back to us. We're not time is right and that happened and he did come back and I'm going back on the team so it's not like the doors shut forever and it's the same thing with Tj. I definitely told them the exact same thing you know. And we're teaching our really close the other day and like like it's not about it's not always about like the you know the money in the sponsorship and like that's it and like we're done I get it has to go deeper than that. That's where the real magic happens from building a really cool all crew and team because then there is a team. It's a really. It is a strong unity between the author the fighters and the Brand Creek from wrong. You're with John The day he found found out about the positive tests. If I write it was sitting next to him. Wow right next to him. I was with them. We were at the we we just got done doing a photo shoot. Ah A Jack Wink and we went to e we're New Mexico we went to eat at the bar and We it popped up on her phone because TMZ report and it was a very very hard day. That's how he found out so I found out he I think he I think he got up. I mean that whole thing order order but I think he had gotten up and go on about looking at his phone. I was looking at my phone and we sat down and we looked at it together. It just like it became like like a very very emotional roller coaster and it was it sucked and I mean I. I would never wish that upon anybody. That was a horrible horrible ORCs. I'll ask you in conclusion. The question asked Tiki at the end of our of our chat. If there is one thing about the business side of May that you'd you would like to see change done differently. What comes to mind? I don't putting you on the spot here but is there anything intri. Okay like other sports. Other sports sports have a much harder barrier entry. And I'm not talking about the I'm talking about the business side I'm talking about you know You know people that are starting coaches Che's and gyms and you know company and one hundred percent you know people that were athletes and I think that you off. Do you have to look at this as a professional sport treat people professionally and realize that like you can't go and like why the line on on on trying to be you know like this. This hard edged try online. Go you know I'm I'm I'm representing people and this is what I'm doing. It's fair for them. And then all of a sudden like threaten people at the same time in a way that's unprofessional and and completely puts you know like financial lives in all all kinds of stuff in jeopardy and like it's it's not. It's not good and I really wish there was a way to that. People are a little bit better and and have it like it is and other professional sports where it's not like anybody could just come in and do these jobs like you have to be somewhat accredited or some sort of some sort of You know like the agency or somebody. That's overlooking this so that so that you're not getting this. You know people that are that are being you know managed or being represented ended by somebody that could for sure ruin their career. You know based off you know whatever personal motives or whatever it may be and I. I've seen it happen far too much and it's happening like wait too much. You know in this day and age and I really wish it went. 'cause I see how it affects the athletes. I think that it's wrong and I and I hope Thatta changes soon. You're doing a wonderful thing. My man honestly you know. Let's be honest the fighters they don't get paid in my opinion what they deserve in. It's people like you in large part. Who help help them be able to fight? And continue chasing this dream of being you know one of the top fighters as far as earners are concerned. and You keep that dream alive and I know how you know the fighters writers feel about you in the managers feel about June. It's amazing to develop that reputation in this particular sports. So congratulations on all your success and everything that you've done in the main continued to do you and it was great to learn more about your history about about where you came from and how you bill talk this. It's really impressive. I appreciate that man and I appreciate everything you do for the sports awards here without people like you. It's it's very hard for a lot of people to get this great information and hear all these great things about how industry shaping up so how you're doing amazing job to you my friend. Thank you Hans. I appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you all right there. He is Hans Mon Camp Director of Combat Sports for Monster Energy and as he mentioned an outline he's been involved in the fight game for quite some time and One of the very important figures in this game that maybe you don't know But without him the fighters aren't making all that much money especially the ones who are trying to make a name for themselves. I mean obviously the McGregor's of the world are you know doing just fine without wither without sponsors but the sponsors help in between McConnell hasn't fought right. He hasn't fought since October of last year. And I'm pinpointing him but every manager fighter will tell you if you don't have sponsors you're struggling And that means that the people aren't connecting with you that means you're not getting big fights the spotlight on you. It's a very important part of this game. And I and it was scary for a lot of fighters when the reebok deal was brought in and I talk a lot about the reebok deal as far as like stripping away their personality but the truth of the matter is forget about the personality it took away their income When you took away those sponsors the banners all that stuff not only in the more things that media day a post fight press conference center and it's been loosened up a little bit but still it took a while for the fighters start to get back on that same track and I think social media helped them out a lot and so? I think that that's something that people aren't recognizing I heard obviously patriots and it was on my show and she told me about that and that created a big. You know a a big stir but A lot of players are doing well as a result of social media joked recently that were Moskva dolls. Instagram reminds me of that scene. Wayne's world where you know they're hawking in all these different products and of course I'm joking. I'm happy for them. I want the fighters get paid as much as possible. They all deserve more From the top all the way to the bottom they all do so great to hear Honda Hanta Story and a lot of fun doing this particular episode focusing on the business side of I don't consider myself a business person per se but I do love the business side of the fight game and so it was cool to hear those three different perspectives before we go a couple of news and notes actually while we were doing this. PODCAST Bell tour dropped a pretty big one on us Announcing that the bantamweight champion for their organization Kyoji. Her Gucci has relinquished their title. This is the press release. It's pretty short after suffering a severe injury that forced him to undergo surgery bell tour bantamweight champion Kyoji. Her Gucci has relinquished the title. He won last June a belt or two twenty two with the championship. Now vacant Will move to book a one hundred and thirty five pounds title bout in the coming months There is a quote in this story from Scott Coker Creveld President and the main part is after fully healing. We plan to give Kyoji an immediate title shot. Of course he's also the rise in champion as well. So that's That's a pretty big piece of news. The other big story. That's been percolating this week. has been twenty ferguson versus Habib Magomedov. ESPN reporting putting on Monday. That the U of C is targeting it for April eighteenth in Brooklyn New York and that is accurate. That is what they want. Habib himself saying recently that he wants to to fight in April and that Brooklyn was the front runner But something weird happened. And I don't know weird is the right word but something that happens sometimes when these big fights are being negotiated happened Monday night where you see Habib side start to flaunt the fact that they have a assigned `bout agreement. Let's go Tony. Here's our agreement. Now it's on you and you and you don't hear much from Tony. Tony emerged Tuesday tonight and said that on twitter. He wrote that you know time to play Games are over. I'm open for business and it was a bit of a mixed message. I think that if you did did not really know what was going on. You would think that he was confirming that the fight was done deal The video would certainly suggest that but what he was saying was like let's talk. Let's talk business you. You want this fight. I want this fight. Let's talk. It's something that's happened over the past few years in the AFC as we all know about the rise of the The money fight the mega fight in large part because of Conor McGregor success and popularity and over the last year so the UCS tried to you know. Stop a lot of that money. Fight talk and get things back on track for them. It was almost like the inmates. were running the asylum was starting to become a lot like boxing where Pfizer being negotiated every single time. It didn't matter if he had a four fight deal ideal ideal. You were renegotiating every single time. They don't want this and so they have started to put their foot down a lot more and just said like take it or leave it and often the fighters taking it because at the end of the day the UFC has to leverage their the promotion. They're the ones with the belts. You have to fight for them and we saw this with mine and Covington and early in the toxic remember. This fight is what four and a half months away. We're starting to see the same thing here Tony. I hope that they're able to talk. I hope that they are able to give Tonia deal. That is fair and is something something that he you know. I think has earned an end in his worth and that it's not just okay. Habib is the Big Star. He is the side. Let's get him done and Tony. You're just GONNA take AAC whatever it is you fought Donald Twenty four because in my opinion what he fought Surani for has nothing to do with what he's fighting for this title. Fight this a main event. The whole show is going to be built around this fight different circumstance so different fight can't just take the same thing and so in the Post Sufa old old regime era now the WMA endeavor era a new people have been brought in and they're trying to put their foot down and say look. You WanNa negotiate go elsewhere because it's not happening here and that's created some friction and that's created some some really tense times between fighter slash manager and promoter So I'm really curious to see how this story plays out but this particular story is not done. This fight is not done. We know the day we know what they want. But Tony side isn't finalize. And I just want to caution everyone that whenever you see someone flaunting signed contract because take it from me as someone who tries to find out information from people. For whatever reason reason fighters managers they're very afraid to talk about fights before the promoter and it doesn't matter if it's your belt or anyone else before the promoter makes it official. They're very afraid. So all of a sudden and those few times when you see someone to actually flawed a sign bowed agreement. You know that the green light is given to put pressure on the other side. Let's not be silly. Let's not be foolish this year. We know exactly what's going on all of a sudden we're seeing. We're seeing assigned bathrooms. We saw that with men. COMINGTON last year You remember that club Ebner Mogomedov. UFC to a five Story that he got mad at me about. Why aren't you talking about my son? Contract is because they're trying to put pressure on Alvarez to take the connor fight so that happens and it's a part of the game it's part of the the business side of this game. I'm not saying it's dirty or anything like that. It's just what makes the fight game and interesting sport to cover In boxing you kind of see how the sausage edges made a little more in our sport. Things are kind of kept under wraps but as the sport continues to grow and social media continues to grow. You're starting to see a little more of this. Come out and We're seeing hanging out with the Tony Ferguson situation. So just keep a locked here. We'll keep Rian. We'll tell you how it really is T- Did you learn a thing or two about the business side Eh may today did you enjoy it. I really enjoyed the me being the young person. I am the comments from instagram and ever since Page said that under Monday show I've been really interested the net and diving into the numbers about good stuff. Thank you and what about Gina Krahn. I mean you just learn you know you were. You're would it be fair to say that. This is the first time that you were exposed to the magic. That is Gina Carano. Yeah I mean pretty much every week that you bring someone on. We had a conversation before the show last week. I was like yeah. Yeah who's randy couture couture. Yes and you're like. Oh he's only like the greatest fighter one of the greatest fighters ever. I really haven't heard of the person until you've had them on their show on your show which you had not had randy on since I've been working on your show so I now know who Gina Carano is. She's awesome makes me want to watch the man to Laurie. And not even a star wars guy right and she was awesome. She was a lot of fun. She's very smiley. And I tell how much that whole interview meant to you. Yes missile corporate plug their for Disney plus of course of grab can corporate Guy Novacek though no corporate. Jake no no corporate jake here but you know you hear that you don't get anywhere else. GST's minimalist tip-off the darn right okay. So Ariel it is Wednesday retain this podcast. Black Friday is in a few days. You know what Black Friday Friday's aerial yes. It is the enemy of the minimalist is the minimalist worst. Fear Black Friday so whenever you guys are going out black Friday shopping shopping. I encourage you if you're buying something for yourself. You have to ask yourself the question because there's all these great deals right. Things are on sale. Things are in these glass shiny cases and whatnot and everything looks really great. So if you're going black Friday shopping I caution you. If you're going to get something for yourself ask yourself the questions because once I buy this thing yes and there is a shot of dopamine that the happiness hormone as I call it that comes with buying something but you have to ask yourself outscored. Okay after the rush of this wears off after a few days a week or two. Am I still going to like this thing. It's still going to serve a purpose in my life so if the answer to that question. I know you probably shouldn't get and if you're buying something for someone else maybe the holiday season that's coming up you have to ask. Is this something that they're going to use after two weeks or so. Is this something that's really going to add. Value to the lives to invoke that phrase again what I do when I'm buying gifts for people I mostly by by people experiences. What can I get for them? That they're going to enjoy a one time thing. I got my dad and massage. Last year I get concert tickets or tickets to a game that you can enjoy and maybe you can attend with that person tickets to a show something like that so gift maybe gift experiences rather than objects this holiday season. I love that you know my son who is Seven turning eight it some way somehow has learnt about black Friday for the first time and so he keeps asking me about black. Friday keeps asking me to go to the mall on Black Friday because he wants pokemon cards and keep telling him that. It's not going to be a very enjoyable experience being at the mall on Black Friday and certainly we're not going at six. Am I would. Never I don't understand anyone who would ever do that to the mall once on Black Friday couple of years ago and it was like at two PM and it it was horrible. It's madness yeah. Black Friday gets earlier every year. And now there's all these different days or cyber Monday A. and whatnot. It's you know it's it's it's embarrassing to see people act that way and it's also kind of sad because here you have Thanksgiving which is supposed to be like you know it's supposed to be like so spiritual in the sense that you're you're just grateful and thankful and there's no religion attached to it. It's just about being around family and thankful and it's about like the meaning being of of love and happiness and being around people that you admire and all the stuff and then the next day everyone loses their mind and gets there like four. AM and just becomes. You know these these monsters monsters trying to buy up all this stuff so yeah the day after giving thanks you grow trample other people to get the apple product. Horrible horrible Well thank you for that. It's great and by the Jingle that you have at the beginning of your Tip of the week. It's almost very non minimalist. I if if you know what I'm saying right. 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Inside MMA, the fastest growing sport on Earth

The Men's Room

24:16 min | 10 months ago

Inside MMA, the fastest growing sport on Earth

"Hey this is a heck. Oh Eddy production. Hi Welcome to the men's room. It's great to have you. Have you subscribed yet. If you haven't right now is a great time. I'm to do so. Just click that button. It's as simple as that so today we're talking about MMA that may or mixed martial arts which is a full contact sport that allows striking and grappling both on and off the ground. We hear that term a lot. These days is Emma but not everyone knows what it's all about so we've brought in an expert to really explain what it means. What are the rules? Are there any rules. I why do hedge is the owner of the Victory Club in Lebanon. He's an internationally certified. MMA coach and also the head of the Victory Club ever made Kademi. Hey thanks for coming in today. Thank you for having me. So are there any misconceptions about MMA. Of course the big misconceptions about me I'm amaz Thought of as a extreme and brutal martial arts we tend to abolish these misconceptions especially with the international imitation correction nowadays which is building a system that can easily be thought to children and Juniors and schools and and Jim's this is thought of as a brutal martial art because you know blood is sometimes flying into the audience. Ah Much no because you know. It's it's something you usually see in mma but these are not severe injuries. These are normal cuts so you got from Mommy because we were afford ause gloves which are small ones. Luckily for us. That's the The size of the gloves. It's not like boxing. Wants the boxing gloves. Big sized gloves like ten or twelve hours. They have caution cushions the protect the and the face from getting hurt the more but in boxing in Whitehall and other combat sports when the guy gets knocked out you know his allowed to compete beat again so he he's getting in through the risk of getting hurt again more and more and I may once you're knocked out you stop the game. Okay so the fight ends and you lose so my for example. If you're or in boxing you fall on the floor. You're out they give you a certain amount of how many sectors day gives usually ten seconds and if you get up continues yes it's not the case you don't get account you just lose the fight okay and May when you get hit it with the several punches like five six punches and you don't defend yourself even if you're not knocked out even if your conscience this stop the fight because it's risky to continue and other sports in like Martha and the boxing which we respect a lot and they are a big part of a mummy and they have their own history with this is a very effective if they do not stop they stop until you knocked out and when you're knocked out she can compete weird that people think that may as more violent because in that sense it's less but but are there fewer rules what are the ground rules you're actually you recently became a certified internationally certified judge which means you can be a judge for fights all over the world rice true so what are the basic rules okay so the basic rules in MMA as what is not allowed in May of course it's not allowed in the on the back of the head and on the spine because it's dangerous it's not allowed to hit on the groin because it's not it's not allowed to choke the hands to poke in the is had had not of course not allowed soccer. Kicks is not allowed as well but other kinds of cakes of course of course sir normal like any martial arts martial arts are allowed any kicks any sort of kicks that are legal in martial arts are allowed. You're not allowed to like put your hands on nuts and other players like if someone is has already taught you cannot just squeeze or they came up with that rule means in. Somebody actually tried that. That's the sinful to think about you know MMA I was a game with no rules. It started officially officially twenty five years ago. That's why people think of it that way because when I started it didn't have rules. Yes it started the mighty ninety three and six years ago like officially it had no rules. It had no weight classes. The only rules were that you can you had bought He can do headline I had bought. Yes and soccer cash can do anything. The only thing the wasn't allowed is hitting and the spine. Okay those it can do anything else a lot since then rules are becoming more severe and there that are always researchers to WHO Narrow the Injuries in May reduce injuries. The I have to point out that. MMA is a new sport. It's a new martial arts astill developing okay. So we're the International Federation is working on everything to make it a safe game which is were reaching. No what's the biggest M E event in the Middle East. The biggest event in the Middle East now is brave competition. Okay it's based on Bahrain. Now the having the thirty third edition wait. How is that possible? Do they have one per year. Did you just say the sport is like twenty five years old. Don't have one per year. Yes yes yes. Check me non not. I'm being honest. They have in different countries around the world. I go to Brazil resist. They go to the whole events and different countries in the world. They have now won in on seventh of December in Saudi Arabia. As the thirty first addition there there's also You a warriors that held the mainly in Abu Dhabi there's one in thirty January as well. These are professional. Ama- may about or fights or competitions. You know these are the main two you know. So who fighting those fights like someone from the region with someone international anyone. Of course they have. They should have sort of portfolio certain level of course fighters background cannot have an amateur in these competitions because They have professional. Rules would with no protection only the moth guard and the ground protection worldwide notion. God's headgear thank you know nothing. They have of course different rules because a May June. You're under eighteen years old. You cannot punch an on the fate in the face. But there's there's no not that category is not taking part of these. Big Events is cost so you cannot have under eighteen to fight in these contractions. What do you call it? Usually the promotion promotions but. They're in competitions a sports sports so when you look at these guys fighting fighting an enemy fight you feel like it's very violent right. I mean essentially. You're like pounding the body and the face of your opponent. D have to be a violent person to do this kind of sport. Multi multi really are not divided person. You know the misconception as well as when people see the other people fighting in a cage this is they think it's a a an analyst fighting the Roman Games the Roman Times on the used. I have gladiator fight to the death. Right yeah and more than that. They see like animals fighting because cages are made on animals. The truth about that on on that is that We fight cage because Emma may have has lots of throws and take dogs. It's dangerous to find in a ring because he might fall off of the ring and you might break your neck and so you fight and the case should be safe okay. So that's a very important point To Look at interesting yes and of course it's an identity you you know when you see a football field you know. This is a football game. When you see other buffets this'll be game when did she? Can't you know I'm GonNa make it you know so. It's it's an identity for the game Maslin. Yeah they don't have those in like wrestling or other Grappling types of sports. On the for me it does make it seem. I'm kind of more vicious in some way and and you're right it does make you think of animals but you're saying that you don't have to be violent north all do you feel that. It's is a sport that's useful or beneficial to learn in terms of other martial arts are known to help especially children develop their focused develop their self control their body control. Is it the same thing for you would see. It's more than other martial arts because anime combines combines mixed martial arts and different parts of Russia so you have to engage more and more mental effort to coordinate between all these washouts other sports much focus on one so it's easier just like you're having You're holding on a plate in your hand just like your hand holding holding animated templates. You have to coordinate and balanced not to fall but this one. I'm talking about mental. You know you you have to be very mentally strong and disciplined because so you see an ma at the end of the fights. Everyone expects everyone you know. Sometimes the ball to each other. They hug each other. The actually really weird here to see that because you see a guy like really like messing up the other guy and then it's over then it's like it's all good just because the game teaches discipline even by its own you know why because when you play it's a fifty fifty chance to win or lose and when you lose. There are lots of times that you lose a new gym. And other gyms in small competitions you have to accept that to bow down to defeat and accept it and go work harder to win again so when you get get used to this you get disciplined and respect the other fighter while you're SPEC because you know how much Sweat and dedication has put to the game in order for him to reach every now and and to defeat you because Amemiya is one of the Sports Masha that it acquired that education professional athletes before preparation for competition. They trained eight weeks six hours a day days a week. Okay so you know it requires a lot of and and imagine you're working working hard on your conditioning on your techniques on your strength and coordinating your moves against someone else. Who is doing the same? You know you're you're not doing it alone you know you're doing far away from someone so at all requires mental focus and strength strategies. Also Semaine game. I think people well don't realize that when they're there are the difference between people who just you know know about the sport and people are passionate because when you appreciate not only the level of dedication focus that that it takes but also the mental aspect of it of how Well trained just like any other sport. I mean in football. You have strategies for the game right if the opponent does this is what you you do. And you have different options. I imagine it's the same in in MMA through an example yes You know the FCC Ultimate Fighting Championship is one of the most prestigious prestigious promotion in the world. It's based in the US. One of the most important fights that ever happened. took place between Hobby Mogomedov an Conor McGregor one of the top fighters in history. The fight was one only by picnic. Only by strategy few punches were hit. We didn't see any blood and who didn't see anything it was the it was pure technical. Okay Hubby won the fight. Technically with only using techniques and this is a a great example that I give to my students. Technique is everything in the game strategies thinking you know knowing how to what you were taught in the gym and apply. Ah against someone else. It's not something easy. And it's it's it's wide world. You know combining boxing jujitsu wrestling everything you know. These martius existed thousands of years ago and they have lots of techniques and you have to learn everything you know and apply them in twenty five minutes sound imagine that it sounds like a lot to learn. Look it's a large world but I advise everyone at least to go in martial arts okay because it's a whole different aspect than anything you've ever seen. I say that people who who don't practice much ours. They're they're missing on a lot a word that they can and be in and then missing out on it just go in for three months just to see what they are missing on what their bodies can do still actually so you have have a gym you. You coach your coach for I guess for amateur athletes and professional fighters or Lebanon. We don't have affiliations Israel all the Russian Federation of Amateur Mixed Martial Artists. Okay but do you also get like regular people. Obviously not everyone that wants to learn it is going to have what it takes to go and compete so. Do you have a lot of people like that. Is it a good sport to do just to be in shape. Of course it's a great sport to be in shape because it requires a lot of called high intensity you know A lot of folks you know when you use your body strength with your mental strength was the double the effort. Okay Yeah Yeah So. I heard that chess players burn like I don't know how many thousands of calories just laying a test games. I don't see us so that I mean if you're on a treadmill like brain dead probably burn a lot less calories than if you're doing like what you said. Yeah definitely we had. We had a session today. Actually in I gave it a shot. I can't when you're first learning adding I can't imagine Having strategy when you're just trying to think of positioning your body right I mean it's a whole mental and physical Exercise that requires a lot of position on Precision and skill through. I would say it's harder than Or more challenging and interesting than most other sports. Like if you go skiing it's like okay. Going down a hill cycle you pedal this is like all kinds of stuff going on at the same time already served already there. It's implemented a system that the international ah May for the ration- an together because what we realized over the years that most people that come to the game or recreational people. You know that one half fun. Enjoy the game. mm-hmm kickboxing was a trend in the past. Like at some point through. So they don't WanNa fight so they that less someone picks on them. Ha she tricks. Of course you can. You can defend yourself on the streets but we don't encourage that because we are very peaceful people honestly because you take everything out in the gym in also them relaxed attention definitely. That's how I felt after I had the the session today. But let me ask you this question. that's kind of another aspect of it. We started talking about food today. Because I finished with you and I said I wanted to go get a philosophical view like no. That's really bad a nice. That was very confused because I thought it's a healthy choice but we started talking about Diet what's the ideal diet for someone who wants to get in shape and be strong and build muscle strength. Need to point out that falafel essence is good. But hold into let let the frightful offers are bad so we can have them grilled or anything else can substitute them. Everything everything that we you too can substitute in something healthier. Especially I wanNA point out something that even fitness people and martial artists who tend to eat meat meat and chicken and all the animal products which are considered healthier than the junk food. And everything else. They can substitute everything with vegetables and vegetarian products. Because they have this essential amino acids essential. The protein is really see. You don't hear that often from From people especially in the Middle East and people are still trained to think that in order to build muscle you need to consume high amounts of protein eighteen and mostly animal protein. So what are some of the vegetable protein sources that you would recommend beans. All sorts of beings Our main source of protein protein's knots filled with proteins. So high in fat though. Is that a problem Good for of course everything In quantities as acceptable. So if you eat like a hundred piece of almonds it's not good okay. Good that's not good. That's my snack in the afternoon. That's a lot so you have to reduce your current and a lot of top ethics in the world just like Lewis Hamilton Formula One champion. He's a Vegan. So there's there's a lot of example. He's not he's not a heavy fighter with lots of muscle. I mean it's A. It's a hard sport that I've heard I've seen him in interviews. It's a hard demanding sport short but it's not one where he needs to build up bulk. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA replace change their body mass composition and and turn You know fat into muscle well and this is where they start taking these protein shakes and all that. Are you a proponent of that that are listen to our the vegan protein shakes protein shakes though. I feel like it's such chop commercial industry and you know you could be eating your own foods if you can substitute protein shakes with the correct diet. The students need protein shakes usually protein. Shakes are trend because they are easier faster and they let you have the vitamins and the necessary nutrients that you need without checking. We've we've gone to foods you need to eat and going specifically each artificial and processed right. It is official take shape. I don't take shakes aches. I usually take them when I don't have time to eat but I I'd rather eat healthy foods and I'd rather eat none animal products. What's I'm trying to go that direction? Actually that's super interesting But I imagine you talk about this with people at the gym or not really. Usually we tried to implement it in front of them at a little bit and to show that explained to them the benefits. But it's already hard enough to convince them to the move away from junk food and pizza and burgers and fries to eating healthy which is eliminating this stuff yeah. So step-by-step step-by-step you can achieve yours. So how big is a main the Middle East compared to the US for example getting being bigger bigger but definitely where is it the most popular in the world and the US. Of course the they have The ballot or the extinguished promotions of course a lot of countries that are big as well Brazil Russia but the the main big events. Or would you say it's the biggest kind of sports in that realm in currently in the world or is boxing still big. What's the biggest most popular? Look look is the fastest growing martial arts history in twenty five years old young young and old something incredible to where this game has is a achieved read. It stands right now in the world. So it's the fastest growing martial arts effort so it attracts large A like a lot of money a lot of people in the US. And it's kind of emerging. Here I guess in the region I'm going to say the difference between he and the Middle East and the states okay. Our level is super high in the Middle East as professionals and amateurs and fighters and training but we lack funding. That's the main issue fighter. He'll in the mid east may like have one thousand five hundred thirty thousand dollars for a fight and the states. It goes up to fifty thousand. You know here we don't have fight right. There's that only live out of this. They have an eight hour job. They go train after their Their jobs like three four hours. This did they go back again to their jobs and the chain. They don't have time to recover and when you don't have to recover you cannot train as hard as you can. So this is the main problem. So who's well positioned in the Middle East to finance the growth of the sport. What they are doing now with the warriors and brave combat Federation is actually a very good because they are now promoting Mideast east fighters who have from UAE who signed with the ballot. Odin two thousand seventeen is the first ballot is one of the biggest promotions in the world. a he signed with it in two thousand seventeen his me. This is a big step because we don't have Let raises the profile of from the don't don't have a mid eastern or Arab Representation A. Yes who live here right. We do have like Australians Arabs origin agency that originate from these our region. But we don't have people that live here that signed with his big promotions now brave and you. You were isn't doing a great job. They're going abroad and one. I want to point out something. UFC The promotion signed with Dhabi Department of Sports. I think it's called Sports Center the Department of the Department for everything in the US government. They might even have soon like can animate happiness department gratuity the respected the country on governors. So they signed an agreement with our Dhabi to host. UFC events and you usually The the host events and around the world. They've done it before before under by now. But W E but they didn't have any fighter from the region or they brought all their fighters with them now the the agreement is do have fighters from the region fighting in UFC events that are held in without which is something very big so. When is that going to happen? When are we going to see that? I think it's going to in the upcoming year. They signed the agreement. And they're gonNA start working on. I was in Denmark. For example I was then mark if I attended the event you know. The the judges were from Denmark or Norway or the Scandinavian area. The fighters were from Denmark. The I'd I of course they have the national budget as well but the combinations mix when you have competitions in and fight passes in the only had international fighters whenever had fighters from our region. Yeah Yeah but now. The agreement is not professional. Who are they going to find them? That means they're going to have to start kind of encouraging this funding of professional fighters we order from of course we already have professional fighters from the region that will of course come back to train and set it here for these important events. So that's why these events are very important to raise the bar. He and the standards of May in the region. Well I think considering everything that we talked about in terms of how it's a beneficial sport in more ways than one it's beneficial In terms of fitness of course but then mentally and in terms of discipline and focus. I think it gets great that there's a sport like Emma made. That's kind of growing and keeping the interest and keeping it fresh so good luck with everything that you're doing thank you. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you thank you very much all right. That's it. Thanks for listening to the men's room. CHECK US out on Instagram at Heko at dot. 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The MMA Reporters: Episode 36

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

1:06:33 hr | 1 year ago

The MMA Reporters: Episode 36

"Today's episode of Area Hawaii's. Ma Show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised and in your life on this Wednesday September twenty fifth two thousand and nine thousand nine hundred ninety one marijuana welcome back to a brand new episode of the MA reporters. I am in New York City on a beautiful Wednesday afternoon and guess what we have a lot to talk about going to the world of MMA. I'm very excited about Saturday's card in Denmark. I learned two very important things about Denmark. That ain't no like two days ago number. One apparently was voted the happiest place on earth and I'm not talking about Disney world or Disneyland. I'm talking about the happiest country on Earth. I don't know how they actually gauge these things but apparently that's Denmark's claim to fame. Also it's the home of Lego which I didn't know as well and so it's interesting you know when you're a kid you play with. Legos like you want to build things. My kids are very into like these days well. That's sort of represents what this main event is all about the Saturday rate two guys building on things you see what I did there. Jack Hermansson has won four in a row look very good as of late coming off that great win over Jacques Race Soza and how jared cannon near who started as a heavyweight in UFC then went down to light heavyweight and now is to knows a middleweight coming up that win over Anderson Silva which a lot of people didn't give him credit for but I do and so I liked that fight very much I also like the rest of the card sneaky good card on paper names names like Jack Shore making his debut coming from cage warriors mark j case against Landau Veneta macy's Jason Brandon Davis CR Badeah John Phillips Nicholas Daulby one of two Danish fighters on this card getting another crack. UC's battled through depression alcoholism the other the Danish fighter Marco Madison not to be confused with the former Laker Mark Mattson where that great moment in the parade when he was dancing all funny. He's a two thousand sixteen Olympic silver medallist the fight or not the basketball player so that's cool GonNa Nelson Gobert Burns Khalil roundtree over saint proof lots of like on this car that happens this this Saturday afternoon also big weekend for European anime. You've got bell torn Dublin on Friday. You've got bell tour in California on Saturday through Europe but you get the point. It's the second half of the first round of the biltmore featherweight Grand Prix so there's a lot going on Daniel cornea coming back a year Stevens running it back much to discuss on this episode later in the program. We're going to talk to Sean Shehan. Young journalists out of Ireland works for severe. MMA ensure dog dot com does a great each of covering the scene there. We'll talk about that card on Friday headlined by James Gallaher and other things going on. Perhaps a little connor talk as well mid portion of the show will talk to another young journalists name a son phase who lives in Denmark who has been covering the Danish. Mac for quite some time and this weekend. He's covering it for the weekend newspaper Aka Weekend Davidson. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. That's Danish so so he knows the scene very well over there but I let us say hello to. ESPN zone Mark Mundy who's joining us right now from Los Angeles us to start off today's program mark how're you. I'm pretty well Ariel. How are you I'm doing okay. It's been a tough day. My dog ate my favorite Montreal. Expos hats him a little bit in mourning but I'm trying to fight through it and focus on a great time in mixed. Martial arts is a lot of exciting things going on by the WANNA. Let people know We're going to start a new thing on this program where you can ask me or any questions so if you want to go to the review section of the apple podcasts spotify type in a question or two will to answer them on the show starting next week so that's another exciting thing happening on the program as well apart. Yes mark on Monday. I spoke to former. UFC Z. heavyweight champion Daniel Cormet and we're all wondering what he stay or would he go. Would he keep fighting or would he retire. This is what he had to say when asked him about his fighting a future. I'M GONNA fight this guy again in mind identified him in the right way and hope. Let's get more hand rates but I'll go fight him again. You know I'm not fighting again. This will be the only time that I ever stepped foot in the off the so the next one is officially the last one the next one will be the last one and it's against as it has to be steep no-one else matches and is that offer on the table right now from the UFC. Do they want to make that fight. If they WANNA make that fight. They want me to fight stupid yeah. It was a fantastic fight for all the wrong. Reasons didn't have to be a fantastic fight but it was and I'm not saying I could just grab sleeping meal them down. Will you know but I can do a lot of things better than I did. on all the seventy see so that was from Monday's episode of the Hawaii show a couple of things. I want to ask you mark number one. Are you surprised he's coming back. No I'm not surprised going back. I I know all that previously on the show said I said that I didn't know if he would and I I wasn't sure and I thought maybe he wouldn't but after speaking with you about it on the show I think I realized that coordinates too much competitor to go out like that and he's given he's giving it one more shot and I guess the question now now is when is that going to be. It seems like that is the fight the UFC wants Cormie gave you know it's three in the trilogy and question is is one okay case then. Let me ask you this. Do you believe him when he says it's just one more no matter what win or lose he's only coming back. The fights the abandoned he's done I mean I do. I do believe him. I believe what he is saying at. This moment is true and true to him but I also I also have I've been covering the sport a long time and I and I've heard fighters talk about retirement before. It almost never sticks. Alexander Gustafsson coming back isn't isn't anthony rebel Johnson coming back I believe next year so I think that what Dan is saying is truth right now and September twenty nineteen will it be you know the beginning of next year maybe when this gets made I don't know I don't know when when that flight has done. I should say yeah you you know. I I feel like Dan. Me Isn't one to sort of lie about these things like I believe him when he says it I don't suspected he's going to be the kind of guy to come back when forty five or stick around too long. I I really believe in when he says it's one more down to do it. I've decided that I WANNA do it. I've talked to my family. I've talked to my coaches my management they wanted it to happen. December fourteenth after the Colby whose men fight stalled once again but as ESPN's breath Okamoto reported earlier today steep ahead retina surgery. He's not going to be ready for December fourteenth. I suspect that they'll do it in early twenty twenty the one thing. I just hope doesn't happen. Is this idea and I feel it coming this idea that. Oh you made us wait thirteen months and now we're GonNa make you wait because let's be honest. You see mates debate. They're the ones who dangled the brock. Doc Listener carrot and of course Daniel was gonna take that and then dino had back surgery and even throughout all of that they still dangled the brock carrot only once brock was off the table and around on March that he was like all right. Let's fight. CPA So this idea that he made C. Bay which I see a lot of people say is not true and I just hope the same thing doesn't happen here like they try to turn the tables tit for tat type of thing yeah. No I get what you're saying and I mean I I I do agree in the sense and there were some there were awesome issues that were out of control but I bet if they had his way. Dan would not have thought Derek Lewis at a massive square garden last November and that he would he would have stayed fresh and gun ready for a rematch rather than doing that. so I I do I do sympathize with is with with music and his team but I it's not good for anyone. So it's a wait. I mean no no one. No one is getting any younger here. Everyone's gotTa make money money. and I think that I do. I do agree with your assessment. I I mean it makes sense to do it toward the end towards the beginning of twenty twenty good point about Madison Square in very good point although I'll say there's no chance. DC's taking that fight on four weeks notice against Ebay the only reason why he took that fight on four weeks notice because he knew he derek Lewis in that he wasn't a threat. I could tell I know stupid like this is some kind of nonsense. This is ridiculous just fight me but it was doing the UFC assaulted by taking because they had no other main event. Yes yes you know what I'm saying yes but but I guess deep as perspective that but that's not that's really not the flight to do you know weight and then you know being in the year or something like that and by the way speaking of two forty five they're still. I'm hoping to put a third title fight on that card. They really WANNA put three. They've got Germane to randomly against men the newness for the women's Bantamweight title they've got Holly Volkan off ski which was just just announced for the men's title and they are closed finally to booking colby marksman by the time. This podcast comes out. It could even be a done deal. They're close but not quite there just yet so I suspect those will be the three and then early twenty twenty. They'll try to do a DC CPA. You also have the the return of Conor McGregor. You've got a lot of exciting things. The winner of Nate Verses Mas Vidal. Perhaps you like I feel like the next few months are going to be very good in and the UFC starting with the Melvin card like the the cards that we had earlier this year the pay per view cards which seems a little thin. I think we're going to have some really good main events of everything you no stays true to form here. It seems that way. It seems that way I actually I can't believe that. USC to forty three is is right around the corner and really on the heels of that. You'll see to forty four only what four weeks away five weeks away no Moslem versus the as I booked my flights in New York yesterday Yeah Yeah I mean it's it's GonNa. It's GonNa be a really good year for the USC to have that card number fourteen at that. They're trying to stock up with three title fights. I mean yeah so so so far so good and then and then early twenty twenty there is possibly you know the return also of John Jones heavyweight title. There's DC versus three possibly McGregor if if everything holds up there so it's yeah it's the next six months six to eight months six nine months. It'd be really good and you know it's interesting regarding John Jones I feel like John Jones and Francis and guy new are the biggest losers of this Daniel cormier news story right because had DC one they were probably going to you know they were probably going to do the third fight or at least try to do the third fight between in DC and Jones and then he loses and then John Starts talking about Oh. Hey I've got something big in the works. It was a fight against debate debate that he wanted now both things are off the table and if DC beat see bay then he vacates the title and now there's no big fight there and then of course Francis was very close to you know potentially fighting for the belt if DC wasn't on the table and if there was no John Judd's so here's the idea that I'm gonNA throw out. Why doesn't John Jones Fight Francis in Gano. Why doesn't John Jones do what Anderson Silva did when he tested the waters against Forrest Griffin and James Irvine. There's no one to five. That's quite ready for for John. Yeah maybe that changes after the Wiedeman Die Dominic Reyes fighting October eighteenth. Why don't they do John Jones Francis new as a featured heavyweight fight. What do you think I mean. I look see that fight it. Would it would be imagine interesting. Clashes byles La France and Ghana was a very very large man and it would be the first time that we've seen Jones go up against someone who is a significantly bigger than him. I mean John Jones walks around probably what ends two twenty and they'd be. Maybe in the thirties all right the most and France Ghana is going to be weighing in and the two fifty to sixty so it'll be it'll be the first time ever that John Jones as a physical disadvantage manage like that and the first time that John Thought anyone with the power that in Ghana so I mean I would. I would be all in for that fight but still I still think and I and I've said at this. I still think that Jon Jones versus block listeners like happen. I know I know that I might be crazy but I still feel. I don't think that brock glistening is one hundred percents that I don't think he's ever a hundred percent done. As long as there's money on the table he's always wanted to John Jones fight. I still think that maybe next summer they they can possibly Mosley put together all right yeah. I know that they would want to put it together. I know it's a big fight. I'M NOT GONNA count it out. I just don't think it's in the cards right now but yeah I mean crazier as your things have happened speaking of crazy situations. How about this past Saturday Mexico City Yeah. You're a Rigas Jeremy Stevens fifteen second fight. No contest mark. This is is what it sounded like. After the unfortunate eye pokes thumbs it goes south. Stevens nope weather clean water contents. This bout has been rolled no contest at fifteen seconds of round number one so officially no contest. Michael close by Ti Year Rodriguez wow that was intense when he said that to Michael Best thing I saw your ad Rigas life breath flashed and it seemed like it brought him back down to Earth. Here's my question to you. Is there anything that can be done. At this point about these eye pokes we had Chad Congo Hongo couple of weeks ago. We had todd Duffey. We have this now. the steep a situation. I know the UFC inventory. I've talked about changing the gloves trying to curb. The Eye pokes so you've looked into this as well. Is it salvageable or is this just a byproduct of the sport where you have the fingerless gloves that they they need to look into and there was that that relatively new rule installed about two years ago actually three years ago it went into effect two years ago where referees are now looking at fighters to make sure that they're not they're not reaching out with the fingers extended toward the opponent they won fighters to they're going to have an open in hand. The thing is how to be up in the AIR and and they're they that is that is pretty much as far as like that. It's a foul and itself to extend the fingers and and you could referee could even take a point away. Fighter is just extending the fingers poke the fighters extending the fingers not pointing the fingers up that they fall in and of itself now in the unified rules but we haven't seen we've seen we've seen some warnings being given that we haven't really seen a a point being taken away something like this in fifteen seconds. It's it's almost like what you know. What can you do there was there wasn't even a chance for her being to address status status if that was indeed happening and it wasn't even like a regular. I poke it was like a swipe down it was it was really a freak thing also by the way but herb the tremendous job managing everything that's why the very tough situation here and people have been hard on him and we've been harboring him in the past and what he did a very good job as far as the gloves. I mean I think they need to it would be really nice if if regulators can also come together and come up with some kind of a a regulation 'cause. I I mean right now battle-torn. UFC use different gloves if these are not like he's not really regular. I mean they're regulation but they're not the same type of club. It would be great if there was a consistent glove. Everyone came together and said Hey. This is the one that we whose style of one that we need to use but I honestly think that it's it's it's hard to eliminate eye pokes altogether altogether. I think that they will always exist as long as as long as the fingers will be exposed in a glove because of the grappling fingers do need to be exposed to grapple It's it's GonNa be a hard art things to avoid yeah. The one thing I hate about it is like I think it's unavoidable. I just hate the idea that you're faking this happens. After every one of these I go you have have any of these people ever. Had you know an I poked or scratched or any these things hurt and they may not look like they hurt. When you're you're watching grey's but these things hurt it's ever happened to me and I know these things because I've been around enough fighters and I could tell there in a lot of pain. These guys aren't the type of people to cower our a guy like Jeremy Stevens six weeks away from his family thirty thousand dollars. It's just absurd so it seems like they're trying to book it again. It seems like Boston has been the the date and the location October eighteenth. They just lost events a beat versus. Calvin cater was supposed to be the defendant then it gets moved to Moscow so tough luck for for Calvin cater. Do you Wanna you see them running back. Does it make the most amount of sense especially after this incident that gets revealed on on Youtube of the you know Jeremy talked on Monday but you know we we now see the footage which some unfortunate language being discussed to put a mildly but you know that was discussed in the or or at least uttered in the in the clip itself. You feel like that's the fight to make this run a back at this point because there's a back story. I think it has to be. I think it's the only thing that really makes sense. I think that's the only thing that would really satisfy the fans. I you know I feel I is atrocious. Conduct was on Saturday. I do feel I feel for the Mexico City fans. There's no. There's never any excuse to do what they did. There's never any excuse to throw garbage and beer at Stevens but I do understand that. Hey you know you paid. You paid a decent money for us if they're not they're not cheap and and the main event you know the fighter that you're looking at your on your Red Rigas. couldn't even fight. It was fifteen seconds so I do understand. It's just a it was just a mess all around. I mean there's nothing. There's really nothing good out of that. fifteen second no contest. I feel I feel for both guys. I mean I think but you have to do it again. I it's just one of those situations where like no one comes out looking good. the fens both fighters. There's I although I mean I I do. I do sympathize with both fighters in different ways. UFC It's just a nothing nothing comes out looking good when it may have been fight and he'd say okay. Let me put you on the spot here. You're about to go to the belt for. La Media Day can you explain to me around around sixty seconds or so how the draw for the second round of the Grand Prix is going to work absolutely inclusion of all of the first round flights on Saturday great night at the forum in Inglewood California. There will be all eight eight quarter-final their cresent and they will draw draw the it'll be like a draft lottery kind of like your your NBA like your favorite your favorite your favorite sport. Oh what are you trying to say this just and I'm just like a draft lottery so every every fighter will will draw a ball or whatever they end up using and that ball will have a number on it and the fighter who gets the number one will then take a look at a board that will display all of the open spaces in the belt or world featherweight Grand Prix quarterfinal bracket and it'll have the date. It'll have the location. It'll have an it'll be for the first guy. It'll be empty so the first guy whoever it is. Let's say I'm the first guy I choose. I want the fight to be X. Date you know an ad X. Venue. I don't know what they're going to be at and then then the then the fighter who has the second ball we'll we'll take a look at the bracket which now has one fighter on it and that and the second fighter will decide where he wants to fight when he wants to fight and possibly possibly he can go right up against the guy with the first ball he can go right and say. I WanNa fight that guy and then so on and so forth there number three goes and I think you get the idea. Hopefully I explained that in some way that makes this okay. I'm excited. That's the senator you're GonNa be really really unique. I mean I think it's really cool because there'll be some storylines coming out out of it. You know who will we'll one fighter aggressive and go hey. I'm going to go fight that guy. The entire bracket is open. I'm going to go seek that guy out the fight. That's the story yeah. Absolutely you're going to be there. I will be there okay. 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Is that how you say hello and Danish not even call okay perfect. Do sit hi hi yes. Oh just high okay. We learned something new all right so let's talk about this card you have see Denmark. UFC making its first trip to Copenhagen Denmark. It's a big the card very much. Could you tell how popular is mixed martial arts in Denmark today sure and I will get into it in just a minute but before I get into it. I really just wanted to thank you for the invite. I just met him in six seven years ago area but I was just a fan of the sport. My dream was to get down the enemy our ask a question and get your take and for the move to be reversed that you at school be. COVINGTON would say the greatest enemy journalism full time to actually by his show is truly an honest thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you Tse Clip that off tonight to the world. Whatever Asenjo said that was great stuff so I appreciate it. Thank you you're welcome Brenda. Hello and I mean Denmark. Every month is growing. If you compare it to Sweden. It's not as big but if you look at how popular remain has become for the last five years. It has really grown part of it. There are three reasons I love it is because the broadcast company via play has really gotten fully invested into him to make the second part of Kana McGregor his rights his rivalry Kinda like mayweather could be made up and maybe at that has brought to mainstream stream attention to the to the semi and the last and maybe one of the most the most important reason why there has become probably because Marco Marco medicine so the meadows who's competing on Saturday yes and so are you disappointed or are you surprised that there's actually only only two Danish fighters competing on this card Mark Madsen who will get into in just a second and also nicholas w but that's it there's other guys in fact bell toward just signed sore and Bach who I think would would have been a nice fit on this card as well. What do you think are you surprised by this. Yes I am actually I expected at least to have refiners on this guy I expect it to him by the on this card as well and metzger nails was only loss are to preserve an art of Alex with on really rather than the UFC and last but not least hacktivism was coming back from injury because they'll take a short notice to only have two fighters on this car and and especially if it's fine markle mets and this late in the state in my opinion from the UFC the the tickets went on sale with no main event with no Danish fighters under card and they have struggled a little bit selling those tickets but they're almost close to selling out today and so coming come back through with the with the signing some how how many how many seats is that as far as the arena it's it's around twelve thousand to thirty thousand feet that range so doubt but yeah maybe soon hundred six or so but they have made the last push has been very important from the UFC especially designing those two things how big of a deal L. is Marco Madsen's. You have see debut. He's he's competed in. MMA for the last few years two thousand thirteen to be exact was his debut but he also took took a break he of course compete in the two thousand sixteen Olympic Games won the silver medal in Greco Roman wrestling. He's eighty to know as a as a professional anime fighter like him fighting the UFC him getting signed to is this mainstream news over there as he that big of a deal. I mean his animated adventure intimate dream intimate story if news while he's in the he's in he's in the news almost every single week so for him to be signed by the UFC is huge is by far the biggest immigrants are the biggest Danish MMA starring in history by far over Martin Campaign Nicholas Darby. It's not even it's not even close and yeah and it's it's because of his accomplished accomplishment investing so he's a as you said an Olympic medalist four time world medalist but he's also very media savvy. His wife quit her job as a teacher to be his communication advisor is our PR person and to really get your story out to the mainstream media. He's very kind with his time and he also I. You only need a phone. Call then you have markle cool medicine. Even though he's a big star wow so I'm surprised to hear you say a bigger deal. The Marne Cameron who's one more fights than any Danish fighter eleven the only other Danish for like all the other Danish fighters that have ever competed the only one one he has had some big fights main event combing vented contender Madsen who hasn't even fought in the USCCA is a bigger deal than ever was yeah exactly. It's not even a competition back. In the day with Martin Hamlin fraught he had the big five just just just like the title contention if he wanted to he would get a title shot but it was just maybe one newspaper or two that that wrote about this five I but with Michael Matteson everybody almost everybody knows who he is in Denmark so he's by far the most popular anyway athletes in Denmark and if you look at the numbers in two thousand eighteen more articles were written about enemy and the UFC then the whole whole period from two thousand and two thousand ten. I just wrote about this in an article in the weekend newspaper so that just tells you how how much does sport is is growing in Denmark and yeah he's. He's a he but he on the other hand. He's also the most polarizing Oh fighter in Denmark. The casual fans love love for the most part they admire what he's done in wrestling career the way he carries himself. He's very professional very polite very respectful but a lot of hard core fans and even colleagues fellow fighters. They think that Marco mets it had been given a very slow build. He's been giving very easy. Opponents and a lot of attention attention. They think is not deserved so they don't take that especially after his last fight with Danish boxer Patrick Nielsen which was the Danish Bursch of Mayweather McGregor Patriots Nielsen is they if famous Beige boxer who last competed against Arthur Abraham and Matt's became even more hated after that five because people saw it as a cash grab for from his perspective he made around two hundred to three hundred hundred thousand dollars for that five and that's ten times more that his guaranteed purses right now so if it makes dollars it makes sense but did not I put Arco Frame. Wow this is fascinating insight. I never knew that he fought against a boxer named Patrick Nielsen. I'm looking it up right now. and you're you're you're comparing this like it was that big of a deal to like to compare it to me where the McGregor that obviously speaks volumes. This was a huge story over there that what was it like the fight or the boxer sir going up against the wrestler. Is that how it was built. It was really it was built. as the enemy fighter Mark Madsen going against the professional boxer Dr Patrick Nielsen was never had an enemy fire so is most like gin. Sony coming into enemy but the build up of the five was more like like maybe the McGregor and they actually charge like pay per view money for this like five hundred quotas which is maybe like eighty eighty dollars or so so for the fight and a lot of casual fans bottle into it. They actually thought that it would go that. It was going to be a competitive fight and they think they were robbed out of the money and the hardcore fans they don't really date that he's just having their easy fries and maybe some of his fellow colleagues to things that yeah he's making he's getting a lot of attention and making a lot of money so a lot of people like him the casual audience but a lot of course yeah they. They're not a big fan of him. Wow that is fascinating and that's the fight that got him into the U. OF C. That was his last that of course was his last fight prior to getting signed that was in June of this past year. How big of a deal as Jack Hermansson there he's not from Denmark. He's from Norway fights out of Sweden as well like those are his ties is is this a big deal to them at all or I should say he's originally from Sweden fighting out of Norway but do the people in Denmark care about Jacker Manson with all due respect to know okay not at all so the the intention for this event is the UFC coming Denmark not so much the USD but like the end the the MMA's Champions League is coming to Denmark so a lot of the mainstream press are covering the sport like what is mixed martial arts. Why do people go fight in a cage. That's what I write about a lot to the weekend newspaper and then you have the stories of Markle Matt says and Nikolaos Doll D. The and that's really the stories for this week. I've begun Nelson's the Jack Hermansson. The Sierra hardware was the hardest job that like that's for the hardcore fans. I really liked this main card. I've seen is very good for European card but I don't think they'd really sell tickets for the in the audience here here in Denmark. I spoke to Nicholas Doll be recently. He has come a long way since his initial released from the UFC around three years ago. Go has battled through depression alcoholism. He's fighting on the card getting another crack in UFC after a nice running cage warriors. This is what Nicholas said to me. Just a few weeks ago about coming back acted. You've seen everything that he's had to battle through to get to this moment. It got pretty bad like especially after spotify which was my last. UC fight I I sustained a pretty like I had a broken bone and so it was I think the worst injury I've had point so that kind of set back back in and just fell into depression. You know didn't do anything else and stay inside on the couch. My bet is binging Netflix and youtube like literally all day long eating chips pizzas and then at the end of the week while 'cause I'm a social person awesome. I need to get that social action at some point during a week or a day and then I got kind of anxious and then I texted friends to meet up and get some beers which was was the I well intended but with the state of my mind it just always ended up being like crazy. Nights outs like ten. AM and and can you know if you go crazy. Drink a lot you wake up with like Moos the days after and then amplifies depression even more so that was just a vicious cycle isn't so a sun as you know. Nicholas Shelby's a tough fighter a talented fighter. He's been able to turn his career and life around around in his last four fights. He's unbeaten had the the crazy no contest against Ross Houston Cage Warriors. The bloody affair had been called off because too much blood on on the the cage surface. Do you think he would have gone another chance. You have see if they weren't coming back to Denmark or do you think they signed him because they needed some. Danish blood on this card really hard. Let's just say I think it's a combination I think they would have signed him eventually especially if he had won a fight or two more because just after markle medicine the next most popular fighter fighter and Denmark's ease Nicholas B here's what I call the Danish Eddie Alvarez the underground came king like every time I read an article about markle mats and a half like common underneath saying why don't you stories about Nicholas Nickleby and that's from the hardcore fan so I think the UFC would've signed eventually because when you look at it athletes problem with alcoholism and depression and what his comeback back and and that story was in the mainstream press as well because very media savvy as well he has actually become more popular than what he was when he was in the UFC and with cage warriors just recently having an event in Denmark and him just really having a good performance foreman. was that all coming together. I think he would have gotten individually but maybe the timing was just perfect into coming right now. So of the fights on this card that made me haven't talked about is their story you know mats and of course Dhabi of course Jack Romantic a big fight against jared cannon near a fighter in particular their story in particular that you're really looking forward to on this one. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the Khalil roundtree very incredible notable in his recent appearances seeing if he can build on that momentum and also see what the governor Nelson really had that that can can he gets away win under his belt and get into maybe into the top ten fifteen and into China contention or it was really. He's feeling so that would be a big talking points from here. I would say other than the five that we have just mentioned and yeah that'd be and the paper that you're covering this for the weekend. What kind of newspaper is this. It is a newspaper that comes out once a week on Friday. It is a highbrow intellectual newspaper goes into with analysis of society politics or culture so they actually don't even cover like they don't cover anime and rarely co covered sports. They have like one story or Max who stories a week about sports but this time do you see coming to Denmark and being the big food phenomenon and the market is way bigger than the boxing market in Denmark. I just spoke with the was one of the editors at via has crass right and instead. It's not even comparable right now. So the fact that the enemy is growing yeah more and more newspapers and media from the Maitree pets are getting into it with that being said it's not close to where Sweden is we are still maybe five years after Sweden but with Conor McGregor but are all incidents with the Dalai thrown immediately after the compete fight it really helps you can see that more and more immediate actually writes about a man. It's because of the good stuff but it's also because of the Bachelor and so I'm just curious because it's a you know a higher brow intellectual paper does that mean the story that they want coming out of Vit- or the the the stuff that you're doing going into it has to be a little different from a different angle than if you were covering it for an enemy outlive Dora sports you know paper neighbors and be like that yeah. I WANNA see like a they wanNA. They WANNA see it. Friend is dead. If this sport growing because we see a certain trend in the Society Heidi wise people getting into mixed martial arts what they do they get out of it so I talked with professors about this. Oh markle medicine and and and there's actually been studies done here in Denmark actually the two two people actually go into the US and interviewed thirty seven American enemy fighters asking why do they train them and May and they say they have different reasons for it so he's actually more like an in-depth analysis of it rather than just the actual fight itself. I love it. That is great stuff. I wish I could understand what what you're writing but I'll take your word for phenomen job. My man great debut on the program. really got me excited even more so than I was going into this conversation about the card and the stuff on Mark Mattson awesome was was really great as well. I really appreciate you doing this. Keep up the great work enjoy Saturday enjoy the buildup enjoy everything that comes with covering a UFC event in your home country for the first time in and we'll talk to very soon. Thank you for doing this my friend thank you better and I can't thank you enough. Thank you and yeah enjoy the event. My pleasure thanks for coming on the is a sunfish covering. UFC Copenhagen for the weekend paper. I won't try to say it and Danish that goes down this Saturday on ESPN plus eleven am prelims two PM Eastern Maine Card card from top to bottom so it's a big weekend for the Euro MMA because not only is there the Copenhagen card on Saturday. There's an interesting belt or card in Dublin on Friday and bell tour has made a a really strong push to be the number one brand if you will as far as M. Promotions are concerned in Europe and so I thought it would be fun to call upon an an old friend of ours Sean Shehan of severe may dot com and dog dot com here to explain the current state of Bel Tor in Europe and talk a little the European amaz- well he does a great job over there and he even has the audacity to call himself the quote Unquote Pod God yes. That's what he has called himself. Let's talk to Sean Shehan now who joins us from Ireland Sean. How are you I'm about. I'm glad you got the Monaco properly order. Chani podcastone our own the God I mine I take any of them but great visa on me over the last few months. Yes you've come a long way way my friend for those who are new to this particular show key. Can you recount the story how he first met because it's one of my favorites are we supposed to meeting in personnel sunol kind of online and as part of the show the online. I don't remember. Did we meet in person. Though I met online right. We did yeah I was you know I've been watching for years years and years and years and really had I have aspirations covering it or ending. I spend into it so I was obviously a big fan of of your show over and Miss Fighting Dot Com and we had this is the kind of stock or you're sitting in pitchers off and then a New York creek had a combination pack of that and I was on the show. Oh that's you're a couple of times so we've allowed in along and food for relationship. I think between October last year so it's funny I totally forgot about the picture thing but what I thought you were going to say was. Weren't you at Trinity College. When when Connor who knows Dana was there right and you're kind of live tweeting the whole thing and that's when the whole movement I've been started to try to get Connor signed. I retweeted you a couple of times. Isn't that how it all started. No I didn't forget Mary. Forget I was I had been tweeting your show only been tweeting back and forth Florida today who that was it that you follow me on twitter and you said are you. Are you trying to take my job. I'm like yeah maybe on the Line Arabia's yeah that was I remember that thing like ninety nine followers on twitter and I came out and I had like five hundred biggest thing in on my blackberry was blowing up but like I know I took like a four picture of Dan Goldin and remember remember he had two years probably many kind of fell over and stuff often you have to be taken out of the arena and you know he he tweeted out stuff about frank shamrock and beat up on it'd be frank shamrock or something like that and he broke the news so I think you'll probably a better meal but I think it was like J. J. versus overeating or something like that and so I tweeted out all of that and there was really wasn't anyone else tweeted out there and stuff talk that was kind of blew up at the one media member gone off and look at you now doing interviews at media day earlier today weighing weighing in as as as one of the authorities over there in Europe covering the sports so let me ask you about this Bell Tower Card because they have tried very much over the last couple of years to try I to solidify themselves as the dominant Emma may promotion in Europe. I know that they've tried very much so in Ireland to solidify themselves as as that they've essentially teamed up with SPG Ireland and John Kavanagh to almost be like what Bob Cook and have your Mendez were to strike force back in the day as the sort of like funnel of you know stars and up and coming talent and whatnot how big of a deal is this particular car because from from what I understand it has been it has been hit with multiple injuries. A lot of the bigger names are not on the car this Friday it has but I think it's not the biggest big fans had been knocked off of this car. It would have been I I must've been blowing and are losing. If Richard Carter versus Mike Page had to be knocked off huge no parliament having injuring opposite big Brian Moore's Ah dare to guys that are running their prime right now at the moment to the best in Ireland so that was a big blow. Obviously we lost demanding because Kyle nor fell out with injury we kept yet. which was the man I but I think there's a lot of excitement? There are actually far. It was funny. Today I over to media that I ah I was waiting in line to interview Benson Henderson and the joy and he's fast and she was talking to someone and kind of just energy in this room that I don't really see events in in the US and I was looking around like you know if there was a kind of a balls around and people you know we're Medford people cover me and now in the UK as well. I'm you know I was talking to green. I didn't interview with him was talking about this very thing and you know it's you know it's very upsetting. No and you know it's. I think that kind of says it all it's a card headlined by Jim McGregor and is nowhere near Parrot. You know he would be out the car who who you know this is the new breed of Irish man and they're doing really well and you know I wrote Knoxville for short this week about couldn't take over and how Irish when I have kind of taken over Irish man no cage warriors looking back in a couple of months and they had some very good. Irish talent is what what you said with the SP guys along with the Irish meantime to withdraw and then we killed him. I gotta ask Green Strain of WHO's. Your biggest competitor and you sat there really is no competitor for better because they have so many so many eighty fighters he like he feels he wanted combat artem on the car. It would be almost impossible because there's almost no Irish fighters independent CARADOC with but we're talking about fighters from across the pond fighters multiple as maybe you fight or so maybe one or two went on and stuff like that because our house the most if cornered the market and it's been absolutely huge put him over the last two months. Is it possible that right now bell tower is more popular in Ireland and the US's or is that crazy it's it it depends which way you said as you know as an interview what you go and watch a one hundred percent without a shadow of your favorite local fighters you you know no doubt about a con. McGregor I this moment is the only Irish Bar Irish translator India's feet Joseph Respond fighter but obviously he's training and Kinda. Ah You know depends you everything you really need to know. They don't really have an option both better. You know what I mean because my pregnant isn't really fighting on foot like it's not just it's all the fighters are better or it's also you know the TV team we we talked about for ages and how you know that wasn't and that was hard thing because everything that we're doing by signing these was putting them on the past to dominate over. USC and that was the one that was missing but no on Friday night they're going to be on virgin media to which is maybe the fifth biggest TV station artists literally. Everyone in Ireland is going to watch this for free the manpower the other part of his own spice work. There's still a little bit after that air. That's probably going to be a problem and the rest of it's on the APP for free as well. So you have really thought is the problem you know Jim. Jim's gone are going down for free for every person in Ireland absolutely huge you know if people are watching us and the fans are mandatory just going to become more and more popular if you don't where's the UFC we bring in our you know you know you all go point about you know if you go with Argentina you have to have an Argentinian fighter Darah if you know if you with the present during the same with Ireland's and if you have an Irish spider doing really well headlining these Irish people will come out and support them and you know if you don't have that right. There's not fighting Martin anything so maybe if what he's doing this. Aviv believe what you know online unlikely so Baladora how have that given us that also giving pointers like Vince Anderson a farmer. UFC champion they're giving us giving US money jewelry don't give us the NARBERTH Lavinia against wins forty one the best up and coming prospects in the world you know fight when to show up and come back from across the giving look stuff here to UFC. You'll see is not going to bring a fight over the caliber of Vincent. I'm putting forth from the top on the car. That's just that's not happening so you can do that and they can give us. The Best of local talents and you know it's interesting because I I know you cover not just their Pena May Irish. May You watch all all. I don't know how you stay up. I don't know what your hours I mean. It's just absurd. It's I'm half asleep. It's one am my time and there you are tweeting away and doing whatever it is you do online. It's crazy to me but I feel like right now bell towards doing a better job in Europe than they are in the United States like they have this card on Saturday which is the second half after their featherweight Grand Prix and they've got Masih Machida but because of the names that they're signing because of the talent the upper comers and all that the relationship of this it seems like you know they just had this this. It's a little face off earlier today with you know Fabian Edwards and signing Soren Bach and and Mike Shipman like they're they're pretty much taking over for Bama and cage. Warriors isn't isn't quite at their level. They don't have the funds that Bell Tower and Viacom have I feel like they're doing a better job of finding the talent getting the names that people want to see in Europe than they are here here in American of course in America they're they're battling you have see but do agree with that sentiment like they're more popular and they're doing a better job of building stars and talent in Europe than they are in their actual home of America one hundred percent. I think the reason because that is it's very hard to compete with. USC IN AMERICA BECAUSE USC in America are going to be putting on John Jones on the off the cards are going to be putting on probably McGregor's character. Even the top of all these really really gratified. When do you ever see them in your never we saw it'd be you know. Maybe maybe a couple of weeks ago. I asked your opinion time. We stopped being a couple of years ago but there's very very rare exception so what did really really aren't. They cornered the market here because you know and this was always there. You know we always talk with you. do you can't always talked about in. Ireland was always there you know feeling trees out the tree arena bore and he kinda McGregor or anything go well Dan Connor McGregor Cam and he didn't you know just become the biggest fight in the war and he became the biggest probably fighter in Ireland and the UK as well and created a brand new best. I bet you know he praised in from all over world but he also created his ear and even fan base here probably per capita than anywhere else in the world. You'll see really really didn't and you know they didn't come from that didn't really do anything they kept aren't in the one part and Dolan since Kinda McGregor versus Diego Brando one car and and think about that in stand with the rabid fan base and all the fighters some Andrew. I want as well as just one three or four hundred in the last year if put on parents the London Glasgow today they don't want to go there. They WanNa find all these fighters English fighters. You know you mentioned Fabian Edwards there. It could be the best fighter in the world in a few years and he assigned to benefit or no and I asked him to interview since he's happy with boundaries happy to become a fighter in the world who got are always talking about becoming the best fighter in the world eating he can do that is less. If the changing landscape as far as your opinions fighters without a shadow was out and they're also getting into or earlier during their careers then maybe they would have got show before so now when you're maybe two and three and four now you might be earning you know you could probably tell me. How much do you guys are getting? Maybe ten grand for a fight better. Where the only way you'll see are not signing you. When you're training off four no five or you don't pay more maybe to get to the place under Quinta Fight Roy so they're creating you know I it's it's a great market like is this the stables for Minnesota that you know that's the thing is probably learning because they can sell out Serena over over and over and over can they do to standing ten day doing the same thing you know in in Birmingham and Liverpool all over all over the UK and maybe you know in the navy as well as you mentioned. They're finding Saddam back today to talk ten do that kind of gave up at people here. Maybe they can give us an innocent but you see he kind of the different market here great insight James Gallaher. WHO's the featured star on this this particular card even though the whole thing is very confusing. What exactly is the main event. It's taped lay. That's a mess of a situation and I don't even have the the patients go through it but he is the star in my opinion on this card a card hard that also features Benson Henderson going up against one of the news members of Bell Tower myles jury former UFC fighter and he has drawn comparisons to connor saint team similar tattoos two similar demeanor. They're both both very confident. Brash Young Fighters James at this point is still just twenty two years young and when he lost to Ricky Bonday US US last year. Everyone just poured it on him dancing on his grave you know saying that he was done over hyped all that stuff on the Monday after that fight. I had him in studio my show and I just you WanNa play this quick clip for those that don't know who James's because I was so impressed that's when I believe that James would become a star in the sport because of the way he dealt with his first pro loss. This is James Talking in August of last year about losing to Ricky Bundy has few knockout was six. It's not nice. It's not nice getting beaten. Any form isn't isn't Nice as the one of them was devastated. I was absolutely devastating intimate restroom. I cried me heartily. Okay I'm not. I'm not ashamed over so now. It's it's not nice. It's the worst thing the worst feeding the World Ifo can hit every bit of look back a watch the fire boy five five hundred times finish start to finish the whole thing and I hold my head high the work that I don't get there. How I conduct myself itself. Hoya fought holy. I did ever went about everything. I'm very proud man. I'm very pro among known known take that away from me no matter what people say. I'm proud of myself and I'm I've got some of the worker and I'm I'm on automation. I've got a fire in my belly and I'm common for everyone. I'm common for the whole division. James was just twenty years old when I spoke to him in that clip and I was so impressed that he showed up talked about it and the way in which he talked about and so let me ask you sean a are you high on James Gal her do think that he could become a legit fighter legit star in the sport and how big of a deal is James Gallaher right now in Ireland Jim selling out arenas in at the top. There's voter you. Don't okay there. We go all the way trollers but he's the one you know as well. You know what the East promotions and all the ladies coming through the numbers coming true you know so he he is. He's you know as a fighter like I think James wasn't improving an awful onto the kindergarten and ricky bend and they had vice and seeing he lost and I lost like that is sometimes hard like the upward trajectory of not just you you know your career but of your improvements as was talking to James Today. He's a lot he's but he's a lot different when you meet them in Person Carson he is. He seems for genuine would you jim got her interests and like. I don't know why he you know everyone knows he ever talk by Connor McGregor which is weird 'cause he doesn't lead you know if you if you're from Ireland they don't speak at all totally different parts of the country and everything you know I it's easy to stand that was happy lives and everything but when you see him up close he's a different person and I was interviewing him today and he mentioned you actually because you might actually it's the same weekend I met you that USB the Oakland Avenue and he was in Patty Karner dot night and he was in the front row you anyone ever watch his back. Conor McGregor Diego Brando the camera pans across the football. I'm the fourth fans you see. They're big fans right in the front all standing there on the football watching Conor McGregor. I know he's in the San Marina headlining sending I mean you know. I know I asked him today. Like you guys coming up are watching you sitting in the front row on and you know would be inspired by you and he said he was thought what about before when he wants to do and stuff. I you know I'm in years older than Kim got or something like that and you. You're a twinkie arose. You'll there's GonNa be busy maturity there especially for putting the spotlight like this but Jim got are over fifty or over the last year since that lost. He's definitely impressed me and I know he's impressed quest. You think he's impressed an awful lot of people. I mean. There's an tournaments there for me. He's going to get the criticisms because he's like McGregor and everything like that. The more you see you've gotta her. You know you kind of get to the cover of the book and use the insight even the smart thing that happened today there was the media was kinda been to those kind of ESPN g fighters in London and chew fighters and stuff so all DSP doing all those Mvp and all the other guys. I mean so they were. They were changing Jim waiting to interview him and he refused to go. He's no no wait. I don't do too you know he's GonNa be vitamin everything like that and under a new crew come in and he was the last one there and he wears duty interview like head and shoulders wouldn't do something like that. You know you just get up and it's much I am. I GONNA win. You know he gets it. He understands and that's why he's in the headline inspired here. He's getting comparison. You know people who are people out. There might act more like gyms but they're not in the spotlight because they could get them in the spotlight. What am I doing interviews fighting the where he is. He's not one of those people forget that the only maybe but he's nine and one he's headlining headlining cars and he has a false reading. I agree one hundred percent. He's a compelling character speaking of compelling characters let's end on this connors the head coach John Cavanaugh. We assume he will remain his head coach the head man over at Spg Ireland told the Mac life earlier this week that they really liked this fight against Frankie Edgar and I've. I've been talking about this last few weeks. Don't sleep on the Frankie fight. He's being honest when they when they say that they liked this fight that this is of interest not just because of the respect but because they view it as a nice little tuneup if you will be not that he's a tune up fight but that he's the closest that they can get to Habib. I don't feel like the fan I understand stand the psychology and I'm a fan of tune-up fights but I feel like the fans will sort of rebel against this fight. This isn't the fight they want for. Connor you buying or selling the idea of Connor Finding Finding Frankie Edgar in his return flight. I'm sending it but I'm sending for a different reason than what you said. I think conor McGregor. He wants to come back in and he wants to make money when he can anyone that doesn't really matter. He's GonNa make lots of money. You know you can construct back in and fight heavy. He can probably do you can probably we might have to say about it but whatever Kinda McGregor wants to come background and he wants to be the Connor McGregor Alvarez and you take the money out of your show out of it you everything onto a new look for using a nothing book by thing. I think he needs to get back there. You know he needs frank acres the right thing. I think someone something like an Anthony says a very very good matchup Conor McGregor okay he lost NTSB you. Can you know you can walk around. Maybe even something less than I think some something different. I really think you know pedestal right because Peres Edgar H e a year plan. He's an eighteen months on. He doesn't need one for you. I'm shrimp. I have even something like that. He doesn't any on the Frank Geico because that's a good preparation for IB. We're GONNA fight and take months. McGregor was at his best when he was. I I stay. They don't have to get ready on the McGregor who anyone anytime bought three to four year on one. May you know couldn't role in every no injuries entry. I think he was going in their head for. I think I'm going to go. No he remember he didn't interview I think it might have been what you talk about. He's session instead. I'm offensive whatever you know about Robien. GNP Did a similar think. He almost gets too much time to get that. That's very top level. You need that news station and come up with that we associate that's my question and the opponent opponent is. NASA authorities boss Noah Point matter unless Conor McGregor has obsession out obsession to get into the gym you know and transport three or four hours a day on whatever it is and of course but everything to the site and do not look like he can get back to being one of the best players in the world of in fact when he do that. That's that's the thing for me like I think he's back. Frankly I think especially on almost any on the ones that easily thirty thirty five we ever he's back between the big question for me. He is the pride of Limerick Merrick. He contributes to severe anime dot com sure dog dot com. He has a podcast that he does four severe severe the podcast also on patriotic right. What's the Patriot. How do people sign up for that if if you go to severe amid dot com slash background one euro week or one dollar week around that so you have four or five different posts everybody guaranteed access to demand podcast so it's really basically kind of eat the nights on pros. You know we're we're not explain anyone you know nobody does he saw me to travel up and down into my house seven o'clock this morning literally at him so you don't have to travel title up and down and stuff like that and you know that's what we are. We're all they're trying to keep going. He's not many people Coburn Irish men. I feel like you know more than just kind of responsibility to Colorado man to find a way we started out open. You know why we played with us today. Well keep up the good work. My man the great work. I should say great to have view on the show. We'll do it again soon. Great insight and enjoy covering the car this Friday. It's great to see you out there doing the interviews and and covering the cards from the arena. I think you do a great the job and and hope to see you do it more. Thank you very much appreciate all. Don't rear your Wallet Finger at me. I really appreciate my pleasure. There is Sean Shehan of severe. Emma may sure dog DOT COM. The pride of Limerick. I'd like to say does a great job if you're interested in the euro seeing the Irish. MMA scene in particular he is phenomenon in is a a great follow on twitter as well Shaanxi. NBA is his twitter handle before we go. Here's a word from TSE. Tell the people how they can get involved the mayor reporters podcast. We're trying to be a little more interactive if you will tell the people. TST Yes areas so as you said earlier in the podcast we want. We want to answer your questions questions. We want your feedback so all you do if you're on apple podcast. 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I don't sound like Andrew Luck. Okay how screen La- Saturday working out I had the best Saturday last Saturday aerial. Do you want to hear about it. I do do okay so this is my thing. I'm trying to hit every brewery in Connecticut. I'm a big craft beer guy okay so I went to breakfast my friends that I played some tennis with another friend and and then I rode my bike on the Connecticut trail the bike trail and I rode to brewery by ten miles or so to brewery. I enjoyed my beer across another one. I'm trying to hit like sixty eight so I've got some more work to do. What had some fun with friends that night what alive Saturday. TST She s T C. He runs a tight ship here but come Saturday. He just lets his hair down exactly screen Saturday the beautiful thing well. I will not be doing doing screeners Saturday because there's a lot of animator watch and pretty much did that. I wouldn't have a job so no screen Lewis Saturday for me maybe skinless Tuesday but really it will never happen like I said lock going on big weekend for Euro anime. Bell tour in Dublin on Friday. UFC in Copenhagen on Saturday okay then another ballot or card on Saturday night. There's also LFA and that's an interesting story in its own right what is going to happen to that promotion with no TV deal. We talk about that at a later date cage warriors with a card in Liverpool as well so a lot going on in the world of mixed martial arts as always. I want to remind you know Monday Monday. Show were off because of Russia so Chautauqua Happy New Year to those who celebrate we'll be back on Wednesday for the regular stuff around the bad guy this show all that and more all right. Thank you very much Mark Roe money. Thank you very much a son phase. Thank you very much John. Thanks to all of you. We love you. Thanks for listening talk to you next week

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GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 85: Shift In The Cards

GSMC MMA Podcast

1:04:15 hr | 7 months ago

GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 85: Shift In The Cards

"Need your daily fix on mixed martial arts. Recap BELA TOR one. Fifty Five C one ninety who out of a controversial decision. Who's not I couldn't figure out. Why don't you fret because golden state media concepts got your daily dose of Anime podcast everything from the US or fighting Jimmy extreme cage fight INVICTA FIGHTING CHAMP? Such join us as we talk about some of the biggest names in mix martial arts. We've got you covered here on golden state media concepts. Ma podcast thank you for tuning into the GS MC animates card cast brought to you by the guest MC podcast network. I am your host Arnell Adele Yonne. And hopefully you're doing fine for yourself. You're healthy whether you're living in the states or internationally hope you're doing well as a covert nineteen issue is spreading and it's getting increasingly a lot more difficult especially here in the states. The overall rates of which people are being infected is getting worse. So hopefully everyone's doing fine and within the span of the next two to three months everything we back to normal and begin to watch our normal. Mma shows without being interrupted by not speculate on whether or not it will happen in the first place so hopefully things will go well for mixed martial arts events will go on normally as scheduled and everything could be back in trouble. So let's get to the news. Yes he champion Jon. Jones brick silence after exiting plead to avoid jail time from. Dwi arrests this comedian from CBS sports. Ufc light heavyweight champion. Jon Jones will not face jail time after entering a guilty plea to a charge of driving toxic. Aided stemming from a march twenty six incident in New Mexico Jones agreed to a one year of supervised probation as part of the plea deal provided he follows the terms of the agreement John Jones must serve ninety six consecutive hours in a in a community. Custody program slimmer to house arrest and complete forty eight hours of community service other terms of the deal include Jones paying a five hundred dollar fine and taking part. In a ninety day outpatient treatment program the latter will be allowed to take place via video conferencing due to the Cornell Virus. Davick his attorney. Richard Jones have may have made aware if he fails to do this. The state will seek to impose the balance of any jail time without regarding any central circumstances. This coming for Bernalillo County District Attorney Communications and Michael Patrick said Jones was arrested last Thursday on Alberta in Albuquerque New Mexico where he lives entering on charges of aggravated driving while intoxicated. Negligent use of deadly weapon. No proof of insurance and possession of an open container of alcohol. The latter three charges were dropped as part of a plea deal which has not yet been approved by judge. The thirty year old John Jones Braga sounds through a statement from his publicist nor president. Dana White has yet to public comments. Do Jones goes on to say all we all work to understand. Cope with stress. Surtees surround the curse of our world. I want to express our truly disappointed. How truly I am that. I have become the source of negative headlines again especially during these trying times. Jones said I am disappointed for letting down the people I care about the most my family friends and my fans I accept four responsiblity for my actions and I know that I have some personal work to do which involves the unhealthy relationship. I have with alcohol. I have dedicated so much time and energy to improve community and I will not allow the personal setbacks to hinder my work within the community when we need it most. I truly appreciate support I received from the community of Albuquerque and all my fans around the world I very much am looking forward to putting this behind me. Thank you for all the continued love and support. And please take care of yourselves. Push respond last week to reports of gunshots only to find Jones parked in his running vehicle with a half empty bottle of Ricardo and Black Handgun beneath the seats. Joan to failed multiple sobriety tests. It initially denied any knowledge of the gunshots before police found a spent bullet casings determined to come from his gun. John's Will Ryan Ankle Bracelet and be on supervised probation for one year. There will be there'll be an interlock ignition placed on any vehicle operates many. He'll be able to start it without taking a breathalyzer test. He will still be able to use marijuana with a medical card so John so John Jones is going through another huge issue again It's honestly pretty pretty sad. Contain the fact that he is without doubt one of the greatest riders of all time. No doubt about that. I'll say he is a champion of all time. If you're talking about his. Sure dominance other than Dmitri Johnson and Anderson Silva you cannot. You can make the claim that well John Jones is up there with them at not. Ardley better if you look at how he performs and all his fights so I'd say like top three like most dominant champions ever gonna say Dmitri's Johnson and John Jones but a huge asterix to John Jones which makes his appeal a lot. More difficult to get into so after his arrest Specific fighter. That was very supportive of him. Was Daniel Cormie which is surprising. Considering the fact that Dan record me in mortal cages struck the years in his feud with John. Jones has like reference has reference and or as mentioned stated. All of John does pass issues. Came in like you're an alcoholic. You drugs I'll use. Party has no respect for the game. So in the past Daniel Coronary would always throw these personal insults very personal insults via twitter or or face to face in person to John Jones and now day in court means like hey. Ufc should do something about this. The UFC should look out for John Jones health and wellbeing. And now they're speculation on what the UFC should do to John Jones. Now I always said that at the very worst the very very worst will be John. Jones losing his belt for a year and then he's going to be an automatic normal contender and then he ought to either be an automatic contender is gonNA face. Whoever is top ranked to face the champion next which would probably be dominant says. If the if things go how I expect it to be John. Jones would go loses belt it would then be an interim title fight that involve on Smith and Dominic Reyes and I predict Dominic Reyes defeating Smith which would then lead for a year later for John Jokes to come back. And he's going to have the rubber match with Dominic Reyes. That's how I predicted. And to honestly that's the. That's the very worst case for John Jones as it pertains to your career because John Jones over the year over the years has gone through so many problems with his with his problem with with with alcoholism negligence There's a story of which he ran over a woman and it was a hidden run because he ran and ran off and has been arrested several times through being intoxicated while driving. It's very very muddy. The career in the life of John Jones and I feel so much empathy with him considered the fact that a lot of friends in my personal life who've who've gone through Rehab and like and who who has messed up childhood who've who went towards alcohol and the party scene in order for them to be that field in their life. So I slip from a fresh perspectives. They a little meat can understand where John Jones live kind of is. It's this a trainwreck. Train wreck for a person who's got so much potential. But he's kind of it's so frustrating really structuring. Because John Jones seriously I I was bleeding. John Jones has all the potential Ronda Rousey conver- levels but he always keeps getting in trouble so often. That's harder on him for being discreet large superstar but his skills in the octagon is without doubt one of the best ever. He's one of the best ever to step inside. The octagon at things are going well for them outside the gun so armee is saying that the should do something about this. Young should be like. Hey John Jones we are going to strip the belt away from you and we are going assist you work. Assist you in the Rehab but turns out to the county of Albuquerque New Mexico. They're the ones who are GONNA supervise an overlook John Jones now the Z. Has responded this statement out there by by a UFC representative. Not Dating Right. Who says that we? We understand the problem with John Jones and we are going through in an investigation. So there is a reason speculation. That are going on twitter already. There are some fighter's throwing ideas some fighters and some analysts and some fans of Ma are already saying. John Jones should be fired. And I'm telling you right now. That is not going to happen. He he has. He is such a great fighter. Only such a great fighter. He is such a money maker for the NFC with data that he is one of the top fighters of the entire organizations history without a doubt. If John's isn't a card. I can guarantee you that will sell pay-per-view money. Because he is that good and so. I don't see John Jones being fired. This'll be another situation in that's it's it's happened in the past where he does something wrong and get suspended and it comes right back up it. The truth is if something does happen to them even if he does go to jail I can see him come back because he holds that much clouds. But you say worst-case scenario he'd lose the belt and then he comes back. What is very very interesting? Considering Anthony Rumor Johnson. He's saying that he wants even though the guy like three or over three hundred pounds. He saying he wanted to compete in light heavyweight Smith Dominic Reyes Anthony Johnson. Even maybe Daniel Cormie like John Jones might be from from Harry Division. You might see corny coming back now. He says that he doesn't WANNA go back. Because of the way cut is really tough. But you're not with John Jones. Being gone there is a whole lot. That can be filled by another fighter. Even use the top star so wherever we will continue on for some more news. Gs MCI Mame. Podcast coming back right after the break out to build around the women of 'em from the UFC to the extreme case fighting we got the fights cover. It's the golden state media concepts women's Emma made podcast. The latest news of upcoming discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fright game you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA. Podcast look back for this morning in from via Penn Dot Com that Alexander Volkov ski versus Max Holly Rematch Scratch from. Ufc Two fifty one a plan rematch between USC feather champion Alexander Volkan ASCII and. Max Holloway has been scratched from USC to fifty one another major blow to the card the UFC planned on a double bill. Two of title fights. Uc fifty one. Which is still tentatively scheduled to take place on June six in Perth Australia earlier. This week we found out that the coming events between the woman's flow champion Valentina Chan. Go and you want to call her. Wood has been postponed and now looking ASCII. Holloway has been scratch as well as putting the entire event in jeopardy of not happening as planned speak on. Espn vulcanology conferred his Huddle Defense Against Holloway. S postponed until further notice due to To Cordova's panic you say to be honest with you. Nothing was signed nothing was locked in everything was pointing towards Perth. But we're still not sure whether it's going to go ahead or whether it's not look Aussie said but I'm in a weird position where I'm being quarantined at not being amply trained properly not being able to get over to New Zealand. So are we still going to do? Are we still going to be doing that card? I just don't think that's a good idea for me especially coming off a broken hand for me to try and overcome an injury and then go to camp and not be prepared to to camp in the camp. It's not a good idea so I don't think the card will go ahead but if it does. I don't know the chances of me being in it. The Europe she has already postponed events in London Columbus and Portland and advance originally scheduled for Brooklyn Nebraska Oklahoma City and San Diego through April and May are in jeopardy as well. You have see president. Dana White has been adamant the show will go on but it will seem like the Cordova's outbreak is a fight. Yahtzee can't win and focus. Givers Holloway is the latest casualty of it. So let's talk about Within White said previously. Just go where he always. He always adamant about this issue where he's like hey the UFC events will happen. He guaranteed us. That after the B Ferguson. Vite every event from that was canceled. Previously will be pushed forward in every event coming up after that event. We'll be scheduled as plan so obviously that's not really the case here as multiple events from the AFC had been had been rescheduled have Have been rescheduled and taken off. You got fights over confirmed that these fights were definitely going to happen Biden and why it's all of a sudden we're here and of course you know what it's actually not going to happen. And the fighters themselves are then confirming that these events are not going to happen so yes he two one will. It happened for probably not then. It's very unlikely okay. So here's an at this point. Every sporting events should be postponed because even in China version so even in China even that nation has been handling the corner vice all lot more better than the states. It was supposed to restart. It's like it's events as as usual this month but because of the Kobe. Nineteen issue you getting even more bigger internationally. Because of that issue they had to cancel some events for instance. The Chinese asked maximization that that's sporting events or sporting organization was supposed to continue on sometime in the middle of this month. The Chinese vacillation which is probably the second biggest Which is probably the second biggest Basketball Association in the world right now. We're supposed to continue middle of April and it was everything was fine like there was a lot of news reporting that like. Yeah see we will definitely happen again all science points. This way things are GonNa go right for they. Cba narrow learning it went from things. Were going right to now. You know what's going to happen. We suspended is GONNA be postponed. We don't know when the C. B. as can happen the same thing happened for basketball a for and for the NBA here in the states. You know so far parchman. Is there news? March madness was going to be postponed till even April. But then but then a lot of these players are like you know what never mind. I'm GonNa go to the NBA draft which then led to March madness being canceled because the cost players recognize that there is no in actual incentive for a player to go into March madness. If you are ready like a top rank top rank prospect so there was no reasonable way for a top rank prospect to compete or perform in the March Madness. When they know that their draft stock could could drop down if they themselves end up getting sick and it just looks bad to them. It looks bad to the teams The NBA was planning to closed closed. Indoor event in like an isolated location somewhere like in Louisiana and order for their events to a ticket any Ford which is very sketchy I compare the NBA trying to do a closed off tournament events in Louisiana to that of the U. C. Trying to create a trying to create an atmosphere for these fighters in a closed building that looks very cheap and rookie. That doesn't make all the sense in relation to all the other teams. Like honestly when you ally Lakers. We'll get we'll get home court advantage playing in Louisiana all because you're banner logos on the floor and like no. That doesn't really count and the same thing applies for the F. C. Yes he's supposed to be this large larger than life events where the greatest enemy fighters in the world. And then you see like off finding Tony Ferguson. In this small isolated film studio wherever awkward Production Quality and presentation looks very cheap. It's you know. Sporting Organization can create their event and make it look good at this point in time and so now we know that events are being cancelled in no matter. How much Damon White wants to put up. Put FORWARD THAT. The media are whims in the media. Are All this like all the fake news and stuff? The fighters themselves are confirming what the media has been saying. The media's saying these events can definitely be cancelled an Edina white insults the media which leads the fighters saying not enough. I can safely tell your now. These events will be cancelled. These will be cancelled. It's such a feeding when stuff like this does happen. Never again in a different reports from different people that we should trust like we should trust everything but we should also trust with the fighter to saying also since they're the ones who are fighting. We're getting mixed news from both parties. And and and one party will insult the media if you believe them and then. The fighters are contradicting the news. I it's it's very difficult but another fighter who also is Cancelling as a result of the Promo are the cornerstone damage. Is Derek Lewis? This is coming in from Emma. Menial dot com despite the crippling colonel virus pandemic which led to international lockdowns and the closure of non essential businesses a handful of statewide mixed martial arts events and fighters are still hoping to see action later this month. Derek Lewis is one of them probably the black probably because the black beast is living off his mattress fortune and can stand a mess up consented to Phantom payday or two or maybe the heavy power punter just want to keep his family safe by staying at home and putting himself at risk and not putting at risk he goes on to say. I want to get through this safely. Lewis told Emma Junkie. I can't be selfish and stuff can't be selfish and stuff like that and go out there and myself sick and all my family and bring them back whatever I got and give it to my kids and stuff like that and my loved ones. So I've got I've got to be not selfish enough and just the way the way how you weren't very quickly. Sorry and just wait and see what the president has to say about everything and just look up to the leaders and just see what they had to say there. Lewis thirty five was fortunate to have competed right before the criticize craze too cold to where she competed at. Ufc Two forty seven this past February. So he fought one of the year which makes him which makes him Not all that financial financially unstable for the year of twenty twenty. So if you don't WanNA compete because of a sickness personally for me I don't want to go out there a lot of basketball. And that's my friends. Do boxing on inside the amateur boxing. They themselves don't want to train or to perform any sports sports or my friends. Boxing Gym is closed. Because he just doesn't want to receive you of people coming in they get sick and then they go home and then they get their family sick. My parents are in her mid to late sixties. So Trust me. I want to get sick. And Derek Lewis. I understand him if he says I don't want to go out there and do something that might result in me getting sick to which my my loved ones either. There's a four percent chance of somebody a passing away as the coronavirus. There's still a chance and considering the fact that people who are older spectrum are more likely to get sick or the fact that a kid's immune system is being attacked already at a young age by something that people are not prepped up already. That's very understandable. As to why you are scared of this really being really being battery health and bad for your family I understand directly position and I respect expecting for it after a short break. We'll discuss more anime events coming up right here that she has MC MMA podcast. This is your ultimate staffer for everything. Sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA MMA? All in here on the golden state media concepts sports podcasts. Listen so we've been discussing fighters camping by discussing about events taking place and another fight. That could be happening. We'll be henry pseudo versus Jose. Although now it's not confirmed yet that this fight from you actually to fifty will be cancelled but Henry. Pseudo calls out dominick Cruz to serve as a backup in case. Who's the all the camp make? Ufc Two fifty this coming in from EMORY JUNKIE DOT COM to which with UFC two forty nine seemingly in jeopardy. Henry Suharto has decided to take precautionary measures regarding his next fight as well. Ufc bantamweight champion to Hoodoo. Who is not in tune the AFC fifteen overall is scheduled to take on Jose Aldo and the UFC? Two fifty liner on May nine and Sao Paulo but with the travel bans implemented globally due to the corner virus outbreak. So who suggested that events might be moved to the? Us and all the might not be able to leave Brazil which is very reasonable. We could recommend Meena off who can't even leave Russia so Henry. Suharto decided to take matters into his own hands by ensuring a backup opponent is available for as I held defense calling former Betham champion Dominick Cruz. So it is coming in from his twitter since you have is in jeopardy because we can get outta Russia so just in case. We can't get Jose Libardo into America soil. Make sure to bring your until the Tuxedo that you wear every Saturday long with your balls because you're on deck sweetheart at Dominick Cruz. So then he then senator posted a picture of Dominic crews in this very weird image raise rainless like ugly looking white bluish had from the eighteen. Hundreds were this ugly red collar shirt it looks. It Looks Pretty. Looks re-table to be honest with you so. Dominick Cruz hasn't competed since losing his title. To Cody Garbrandt in December of two thousand sixteen and has been sally due to a myriad of injuries. He has briefly he has briefly linked to fight with Corey San again for the San Diego Card on May sixteen. But the fight never materialized so I respect Henry pseudo for saying hey. I understand what the problems are. I understand and recognize that. Ufc events are not happening as they are. Planned fights are being mixed up. We are fights being canceled events being cancelled so I'm not caught. Somebody who lives in the states and who's a big name is a big name one of the best ever. I'm called him out and hopefully we can get going so I respect Henry pseudo for that aspect now. I don't respect the fact that like He. He's disregarding a fighter. Jose all the one of the best ever to not to not fight against them so I find that. Very confusing really so Hetero. He's supposed to be training against Jose although but now he's like. Hey I wonder if dominant cruise because Dominick Cruz and although very very differently the way they switched dances and the way how they go and box and Pfizer and the technaglass back are very very different. It's the Henderson who that was like. He's pretty much saying you know what I'm kind of giving up on the idea of me fighting you although I'm now going towards this guy so I'm going to train a little bit to myself up to fight Dominick Cruz now. Dominick Cruz hasn't fought in forty years. And I don't expect them to fight against Henry. Yes Dominick Cruz fighting in Tennessee. Who can possibly happen? It can definitely happen considering like what's the considering the circumstances of what's going on right now in the AFC and the fact that the bench division is kind of in limbo at this point also along with the fiber division because they are limbo and circumstances are happening right now in the states. I could see Dominick Cruz. Despite not fighting for the past four years can bypasses way and getting a towel fight now whether or not that is right for Tom. Cruise. I don't think so. The guy a has gone through so many injuries and at this point. I think he's kind of comfortable playing the role as a commentator. He's a very smart person. Very intelligent very can prison. Who UNDERSTANDS IT? Analyze that game in a very high level so. I think he stuff aware of himself to recognize that. I don't have what it takes anymore that I'm not GonNa let my personal prior to take over me. I understand physically the I am not prepped. Up to compete in the Mary level. I think I'm good enough to go and like do some sparring matches and be. I appreciate that he can go to the gym and he can walk up anyone's but in an immediate. I can easily see that but I believe that. He believes that he is not at a level anymore. So I so I. I don't expect on Cruz to come out of retirement to go fight against Tennessee though. Even if it is is how I don't expect that to happen so dominant crews might serve as a replacement fighter for Jose although we might see another replacement fighter coming up at two forty nine as reported by Emma Mania Dot Com Tony Ferguson versus Justin Gateway is in the works for UFC. Two forty nine with Kabaeva emerge in Russia. Raining lightly champion could be off is currently stuck in his native bag stan. Russia has locked down international travel in response to the current environment that everyone but you have see is attempting to control as a result. The Eagle may not able to fight any ferguson and the UFC two forty nine main event on April eighteen. Which is why you actually has now ask lightweight contender just engage place in the mercury enough presumably for the interim strap that's according to ESPN reporter. Ill Hawaii UFC is aware of the mercury enough status. And I've been looking at alternative plans for the April eighteen events and card which which they are still determined to put on. How want he wrote on twitter? As a result twenty cent per sources has been offered a fight against top contender or just engaged however that has not been agreed upon nor finalize. Ufc Two forty nine still does not have a confirmed location the promotion scrambling to stage live events in the wake of the environment dynamic. Three fight cards. We're already postpone in March and April peers to be in jeopardy as well as though you'll see presenting a white may maybe the last one to figure that out stay tuned so yes he to Fernando. We talked about this every single week. We'll it happened will not happen. Will I still remember those events being cancelled? I still remember the white saying no matter what the Fight Lennon Card is percents gonNA happen. That card will without that happened and so they'll speculation that we'd have Tower Luli recall be Covington. This fight that logically should not be happening at all is going to be like tire Willie. Kobe Covington in the very big. That's going to happen and just five days from this point on. It was so bizarre is five days before you. Nfc fight nights was going to happen like this card will happen. Don't even think about it. The media's wrong this fight card to has thirteen cancelled fights in the next coming up in five days. That event will still happen no matter what they're even willing to go and find fighters who are not employed by the AFC to compete in that card. So I'm not surprised to to recognize it to see this that then why it's I don't think you have to name is going to be canceled. We've been speculating on this on. This event being cancelled what I'm going to say is that you see to forty nine via Vance will not be cancelled but fights will be cancelled so the fights are happening within the car of UC to Fernande will be canceled. That's why you've got reported rumors of Rosas strike versus Princeton new which was said was going to happen at UC to forty nine and now we have gone. And saying hey. I don't know this fight is even going to happen. Roses strike says. I'm not sure this is going to happen. We've talked about it. We would like to fight at UFC. Two forty nine daylight says that you'd be a great idea. It'd be great. He wants to build the most bad. This is Dana words. He says he wants to build almost baddest card possible ever for UFC. Two forty nine now. That is him playing the role as a promoter. Hyping up a car. That's that hopefully does well. Because it's got some really good fights to be drowsy. Rosenbaum either dry. That is going to be absolutely awesome. I can I predict with advice will be the night F. That's that's a big. If that's if that fight isn't cancelled because we got fighters because fires Derek Lewis in their cancel. Any alcohol nausea canceling Henry. Pseudo who's already thinking about other fighters other than Jose Aldo. Because he doesn't know although can even make the events. We got Tony Ferguson. Pretty much pretty fine. Moving on with the different fighter. 'cause even recognize. Hey Hey I understand. The situation is happening now. I need to find somebody. I feed my family so just engaging your up next. I'm going to fight you matter. What as someone in the future. So just engage. You might be the opponent Tony Ferguson. Coming up at. Ufc Two forty nine. Tony Ferguson versus could emerge of truly is a curse fight is I think. The fourth or fifth fourth or fifth time. This fight has been cancelled due to some unforeseen circumstances and at this point. I don't think it's going to happen. I really don't so. Ufc Two forty nine. That events will still move forward. It's still going to but the fight they expect from that event. I don't think so yes. Mc enemy podcast coming back right after the break. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen closely and here this out. Soon there's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. The golden state media concepts podcast network is here allocating less than our podcast bliss with endless hours of podcast coverage from news sports music fashion looking entertainment fantasy football and so much more stop lurking around and go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed filled. That podcast is whatever? It may be visit us at. Www DOT GS MC podcast dot com. Follow us on. Facebook and twitter can download us on itunes soundcloud and Google play a little bit respecting nasty to always keep the show going forward. Even though events are being canceled fights are being canceled. That's all stopping team white from pushing forward and continue on with the plans going forward and so this leads to enemy junkie DOT COM with Bob. Arum slamming dinner white over. Ufc Two plans. He says he's somebody with a flawed intelligence veteran. Boxing PROMOTER BOB. Arum has taken him has taken. Aim Edina whites over the president's dog termination to go ahead with forty nine while most of the sporting world has gone into temporary shut down during cove nineteen pandemic what has remained steadfast in his commitment to keep the UFC April. Eighteen perview vent alive that approach has led to criticism from some quarters with eight year old. Irham telling CBS sports state of combat podcast. That white should be shoot himself for continuing to push for the show. What's going this country and the world would this virus. The last thing we need is for an event to take place with no spectators this to get the event to take place he said but the truth is Dana White is somebody with a flawed intelligence white is persisting was his plans to keep your fc to forty and going hall of fame. Boxing Promoter Arum has completely shut down his events and says he won't make any firm plans for his next state of shows like next shows until he knows what's happening with the ongoing current situation. People ask me well plans. I'm making for these fights when we will get that when we get all clear because I don't know when the all clear is going to be and I have no what I have no idea whether it'll be two months three months or even the rest of the year. I'm not making any plans right now. He said when this thing looks like it's clearing up we will start. Making plans remains unclear. What form will take with? Nonni confirmed or out of the fight card or the location of the event as thing San. It seems unlikely the Plan Yeah? I feel that we title fight between Munro. Ferguson will be the headline card for UFC. Two forty nine. So at this point we've got a host of who are throwing at their names and at this point is very unsure ice fight fans until the media on what is real. And what isn't because a lot of these fighters how the tendency to like throw a lot of jobs and character on social media so at this point we've got fighters like Tara World leave tomorrow use mine and Hori Muslim but I'll alternate hats to possibly fighting at UFC two nine in just two weeks time. They're going to prop up the top fighters these champions where prepping themselves up for a major fight coming up in two weeks. It's not all that smarts it really isn't. I find it very strange that a lot of these fighters are like. Hey man the. Ufc's a business. It's a game. You're going to be smart with your decision. Making you can go and fight for the Title I. It's very very strange. How these fighters have a perspective of themselves about that smart. They're smart fighters. Smart Business Savvy. Like they're always planning for the future. They're looking for the best options available and it is an option free to fight at a major events in an isolated room despite could happen in a film studio and you've got prep for this fights in the next two weeks reoccurring to get guaranteed money. Because it's a random fight the that you're not expecting gotta prep up against a top tier contender. A top fighter a champion or a person who's up there in the rankings. All of a sudden it within the span of his two weeks. You gotta be up for that. You got weight cutting to go to deal with tire. Willy has a history of of Having problems would cut in because fighters like distant forty. Eight immature cutting. So what's going to happen with USC TO TONIGHT? Are these fighters really full of it though? Are they really passionate and they really wants to go to fight to forty nine? I'm really unsure about that because it is reported by also MMA Junkie Kamar newsmen willing to risk it all with the two forty nine huddle offence against all and he calls Horia Maswadeh manager foul. Kumar claims he's offered a defended his welterweight title in the main event of UFC. Two forty nine next month or a month but else manager however insist. The champion is lying with all signs point to Tony Ferguson falling apart for a fifth time at the UFC in need of a new headliner increasingly makeshift April eighteen card. We now know that Tony Ferguson has been offered a fight against engaged and it's confirmed that reorganised in fights but it said that use Monta stepping up in a place where he actually presently the white directly against horry muzzle. Who's one detailed the situation on Monday? Social Media and said he first pitched idea to white arm on marsh for so exactly when we go he will say last Tuesday. I knew that could be out of the country response said on his instagram life. I text in white director directly. I said Dina I understand situations that are going on but guess what. I haven't really been training like that but I wanted to come in. And I'm willing to save that vents. I'm what save it because at home people don't have anything to watch. They need some entertainment. Some people want to see this fight. People want to see me and fake. Fake journeyman horry. Montevideo people want to see the fight. Let's do it. Spite his lack of training camp whose months said he was prepared to compete so long as a UFC put proper precautions in place to keep him safe amid the ongoing Cordova's Democ however despite a twitter post to the contrary. He's adamant of horror. Moss side didn't want to comply according to his mom the UFC RAV management's has struggled to pin muzzle down for an immediate answer. Finally gave bread was reached and according to Lose Mon the got back was the fight was declined. It's not it's not going to happen to be honest with one. Said he has turned down the fights. He has turned it down. He said No. I'm not ready to fight. Is Smoking drinking? And I'm fat. I'm not ready to take the fight. That's what he said. He's been drinking that liquor that Noah could pronounce the name of Molly Manager Abraham Kaba. Aye I measurements. Did it take us months asserts lightly he admitted to the UFC making contact about potentially making a fight prior to. Monday's news about number Ferguson was likely off but he said Mosleh agreed which is where his account conflicts conflicts with. Who's Mon- I just want everybody to understand one thing? If there's one thing you know about he doesn't have to lie cassette on instagram life. He has no reason for him to light. He's got no issues. We have accepted the fight twice now two times once for New York City at USC to forty four and we all know how they ended up. Who's months had no? He didn't want to make that happen. He wants a he wanted. I don't know what he had some injury or no I don't know man. It's weird with him and his stuff. Now we accepted again and he saying we turn it down. That's a damn lie. We got the phone call. We were asked. We knew this was coming. We said absolutely. Let's go. We knew how this was going how this is going to go. Did we think we'll take the fight while let's see he didn't take it onto a he didn't take it on two weeks notice last time. What sorry he didn't take it on seven weeks notice last time. What makes you think he's going to take it in two weeks? Notice this time. It wasn't went to happen. You guys can say what you want. I know on our end we accepted. Whatever happened after that? I can tell you man. I just know this is two times we've said yesterday loose. Mont and two times we don't have an answer and this is where I began to think it's a total word because afterwards who's bond proceeds to cut a delivery Stopper Promo with him saying I'm the real African Gangsta. A fight is a fight my fight. Iq Is better than all these guys when it comes down to bring that dog outs. And whatever they go out there and get to the fights no one is touching me. I said I'm going to do this. Take care of me. I'm going to do it. I'll put my title online. Take Care of me. I have never been that companyman. I've never been the one to be companyman. Oh I'm going to do what the company needs but the higher I got in the sports and now that I'm the top and seeing how these events When down how these things are getting done with Sean Shelby and Dina and MC maynard and Hunter Campbell? I see how these guys work to put these things together. And if an event falls out it's not just the main event that falls out ever on the card can't eat everybody. There are screwed so at this point now is pretty much cutting a promo style kind of thing so are we expect charisma. Hurry Mazda newsmen. Who were who really declined. The fight was even a call in the first place. Could this Avi meet up? So they can promote the fight at this point. I really don't know and I don't think logically smart idea for Kamara respond or hoary Muslim at all to drop their stock to possibly lose against a very dangerous opponent in just two weeks notice. I just don't see that being logically smart move from them from their sides. I don't see why worry Mazal should say yes. And there's no reason why smart loose mom should say yes. I suspect they're just beeping. Beeping at this point so coming up after the break we'll discuss more menus right here at the MC podcasts this is your ultimate stop for everything sports the Golden state media concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL? Melby the NBA. To 'em it's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen so you know Henry Suharto WanNa challenge dominant crews if you can't make the fight at Dominick Cruz interview by MMA. Fighting COM DUMMY CREWS CLEARS THE ARAB RUMORED FIGHT WITH COREY. Flannigan agreed to face periodic. I so dumber cruise was supposed to fight against Corey San again initially coming up after a four year lay off but instead they fight has been dropped and we're now going to learn. Dhamma crews seems to be getting closer to an octagon return in the meantime he wants to clear up a few things the former Bethany champion. Hasn't it hasn't competed since December two hundred sixteen when he lost the title. To Cody Garbrandt at two seven after three plus year road of injuries recovery's cruises feeling stronger healthier for each day. That passes early this month. Surging Bethany contender again took to instagram. Reveal he agree to fight against the dominator for the NFC scheduled return to San Diego may sixteen. That event has been Catholic so far in a recent interview finding San. Against that he thinks Cruz told the FCC he wasn't ray a he wasn't going to your anyway then before agreeing to fight. Cruzi the situation from a much different perspective. That's why I want to clear up because I keep getting people. Ask Me About Accord Corazon again. And that he took the fight and then he asked me or something. Cruz told MMA fighting. I'm like well. Is that a fact or is that experience. Because I didn't talk to Corey Sandigan. Who said that? I took it? What I've heard is that he saying that he took the fight and I did by the way in this entire interview. Dumb it cruise. He's kind of pretty much avoiding answered questions for the most part and he's like replying questions with other questions in very vague. Sort of if you guys. Have you ever heard? Like how Kyrie Irving when he talked to Stephen. A Smith like Stephen Smith Takei Irby and he says Hey Kyri were you beefing with abroad and carry was like was I was. I really like you didn't give a real actors that he's avoided it with skepticism. And that's what. I'm Kinda getting here from Dominick Cruz. When I read this transcript here from his interview. Who said took it. What I've heard is that he saying he took the fight that I didn't my question is who did he talk to and said that. I got offered the fight and I said no question work while I know is there's only one common denominator between myself and any other fighters that might get matched up with Sean Shelby. He going to get matched up and Sean Shelby. He's the matchmaker. Don't we all know that in the whole world so shelby is the matchmaker mean Cory Flannigan? Don't talk who is again getting his information from. He's getting it from the matchmaker. Where else would he get it? He's the only guy talking to both of us isn't what shelby does is he. Chris fights between fighters before the fight happens so that he can get himself out of the way. That's my experience. It's not a fact and what I am getting from. This is shelby telling Sagan about me. Then of course Hannigan puts it out there and then expect me to bite. According to cruise the conversation in regards to his return to the octagon began with a question on what would be all right. So let's talk about a Korean. I all right so from one. I'm getting from dominant cruise was at chorus. Hannigan was told by Shawn Shelby Shelby to go and challenge dominant crews in order to create some momentum for a fight that the two of them potentially fight on and dominant crews distinct. The notice what I think actually happened. Sean probably told sad again that. Hey We're thinking about you fighting. It's Dominick Cruz. And it's confirmed she'll be saying hey you could go fight crews corey's like you know what fine. I'M UP FOR IT. I can definitely cruise but dominick Cruz has agreed to that yet. It just a big misunderstanding. Really that that's how I think it's a complete big understanding the thing we're really was on paper for it as Dominick Cruz instead of being like Oh is understanding is like hey where does information from is all a conspiracy. He's a very smart guy if he if you hear how he talks he talks himself. He kind of talks to himself. But sometimes it can a third person and like sorts of rambling a lot. I I still remember the Post Post press conference where he was talking where he's talking about his fight against who got knocked out and he then goes on in this weird inspirational kind of speech retox about life and himself and it is very off the wall for the most part. And that's what I'm getting from here more than anything else like. I thought he talks himself into being in situations to talk like he's like try to reach out for some information. I don't know he's a very skeptical person. So he goes on to say Shannon Shelby told me in all reality said how do I come back and get a towel shot? The fasces Cruz explained. He said you can get a title shot if you fight. I said I want that fight. He said well technically. That's a harder fight so you'll get a title shot right after its but we don't want to give it title shot right after so we'll give you Sandigan before then. I was thinking. I WANNA title shot. I don't dislike anybody towards the title so I would fight anybody. Let me get the title shot after the Fights Sean. Shelby said Peter. Yan this guy off by purity and he said he's an I can't fight he said I can't puree end because he's fighting mummers well then up by his own rpt Ian because those are direct bites title. After it'd be either of those guys I gotTa Tell Shot. That's what I'm in this for not to fight thirteen times. Beforehand Sean. Shelby saying all the stuff to different fighters and telling me about it. You offer me Peter United together and then you switch it up. That's the truth. I never said no to San Again I would never. I don't say no to fights but he does say notifies title-fights train. What I said no was not fighting. Peterman I want and our to fight Marla as I want to fight for the title after I get one of those guys if you need me to get one fight back before I for the title gave me the guy you need to fight. Before to get that title cruise has been through a long lay-off after and then article goes on about his career. Then everything's done for the division and he goes and say how like he's he's going through a miscommunication issues right now with the didn't wise and shelby but from get from what I can get from interview. Is that Dominick Cruz. He wants to fight. He says he's perfectly fine and he's willing to go and fight then again. These are enemy fighters. They have a tendency of like being a being a character on camera on social media and trying to hype themselves up when they really shouldn't be so Democrat even Democrat is a really smart person and he's self aware enough of himself to know what his strengths and weaknesses are. I don't think he's up reflective enough to recognize when he's playing a character and so dominic cruise like A. I can go fi- anybody as long as leading to a title fights and now we're getting reports the handsome you know saying. Hey I'm fine. If Dominick Cruz get the straight title shot against me. And so far from the transcript. I don't think dominic oozes aiming for an immediate title fight Ali Don's Donna. Cruz definitely definitely needs a tune up fights. He definitely need a tune-up fights before he fights against somebody the caliber of Hennessy though he needs someone to fight with necking. Get Him to you prepped. Up because he hasn't he hasn't been for years. Eurodollar cruise is one of the best ever on the best dynamic strikers. I've ever seen ever and all of its arts boxing. Also even though he's that good the fact that he's been laid off for such a long period of time he's rusty and he needs to fight somebody other level period or again in order for him to be prepared and be ready to take on a Henry Pseudo or Jose Aldo. So do I think darker is who I don't believe so. There is on a belief because he domino's needs a tune-up match in order to get ready and a final recedo even cruise Cruise has all ability. He has all the skills from like five years ago to be the best fighter in the entire division as of right now in two hundred twenty considering. The issues are going on with The creative artists in Cuba nineteen. I don't think he's in a position now. Working should go get a title fight. I really don't think so. He goes on to say. Here's the interview I saying. Why are we talking about my future? When realistically we're the come together to figure out how we keep spree keeps going now Madonna and crews fighting. How do you keep moving? Is the question for me. That's what matters to me. I will part of the enemy and I can't fight nobody in the AFC can fight until we beat. Buyers situation is shutdown. We have one fight coming up and one and one of the half of the main events is already outs. That rights was going to be the biggest ever. In my opinion I was looking forward to it. And now we're not now. We know that he might end up fighting in. Yes he to fifty Willie say yes to it. I think so. Would it be interesting if we do see Henry Pseudo Dominick Cruz? Who'll win that fights if I will say this is a couple of years ago? I would say dominick Cruz as right now. Considering the rustiness the rust aspect of the fight game our go towards who so you listen to the GS maybe podcasts. And we'll be back right if the break with something a little more positive. Want to know. The latest and soccer listened to the golden state media concepts soccer podcast from M. L. S. is the World Cup the Premier League. We've got you covered a latest. Update the hottest matches and news on the League's top players. It's the golden state media concepts soccer. Podcast LISTEN DAD and welcome back so once again combines a huge issue right now almost how some we'd been funny so if you are an enemy. Nfc Fan. I found a quiz here. That's labeled only a true fan will get one hundred percent on this quiz. I consider myself with Jeremy Man even though we're focusing on UFC everything is related to mix so the order fighting championship also has a UFC is an American some named the FCC to be Modern Day. Gladiators except there's no weapons just two bodies battling against other title. The organization is based out of Las Vegas Nevada and owned by endeavor. They're president of. Ufc is Dana White. His imprisonment see Blah Blah ellsworth fighter show in August. Two thousand eleven. The ultimate championship announced has been a seven year partnership with Known Fox Sports. And now let's get to the quiz. It's all background fodder so the quiz. If you if you are an animate van or you will be able to pass this question one. Who was the first female? Ufc fighter signed is. Holly home is at Nina. Aren't answer off. Is it Angela Hill or is it Ronda Rousey? So the answer is Rhonda Rousey here Guys California. This woman started her career at the age of twenty two. She made her debut in August of twenty ten fighting. He gets hated. Munyasa fire defeated Mooney by submission due to an arm bar in this twenty. Three seconds of the C- Certain in our state in interview the next ten years. There's going to be a female fighter in the AFC. And it'll be this fighter. Who was the first female yes he fighter was runner-up city. Where was the first? Ufc A held out of the United States. Is it a Japan? Be China Sea Russia or de Puerto Rico up into the championship. Eight held health ever sixteen hundred ninety. Six Bee's finding events are primarily held in the United States eight consisted of eight mentor in fights and the UFC super fight championship. Between champion Ken Shamrock and Kimo. Leopoldo this particularly yes. Even featured larger fighters against smaller fighters. That is where the name David Risk live came in. And that's what I'm GonNa like Dan. Seven German suplex person days before the event. The government made a ruling Ben in the events from happening. This ruling caused massive protesting. This event is known as the first fight to cause controversy. Where was the first? Yes he held out of the United States Japan China Russia or Puerto Rico definitely it's a wofford their UFC fighters that went over to Japan. I'm not prefer it took a while for the AFC to try to F- to ever like get fighters from the East European area so not Russia China the only recently. They're trying to get the Chinese market. So it has Puerto Rico. Because he has a history of very of a lot of shooting is happening here. Where is the UFC headquarters located as of two thousand fourteen? Is it New Orleans Louisiana Loss Angeles California Las Vegas Nevada or Long Island New York as of two thousand fourteen the fact that it took a long time for the FCC to have an event happening in New York says it's not GonNa be in New York. Los Angeles California Dana White has said that he resides in and the Nevada area and also usually you have an event does happen in the in in the company area. It happens on the Honda Center. Anaheim outside of L. A. New Orleans Louisiana. I don't think that's an odd one out for me last one Las Vegas Nevada. It has to be Las Vegas Nevada and it's correct if you chose loss advantage to being the location for UC headquarters since two thousand fourteen. You are correct. Which fighter is being described one of the most heated due to his demeanor when it comes to fight after becoming a member of the is really gained a huge fan base also a ton of people who were not fans his ability in the cage extremely impressive and unique. He's an Irish professional fighter. Who began his career in two thousand eight? Debut doesn't thirteen okay. Then which would these four fighters is Irish. Is it may D as Floyd Mayweather Daniel Cormet or Conor McGregor. It's obviously Conor McGregor for that. One thousand easy one next one. What is the shape of the cage in the AFC? It's an odd so the USC cage is it a circle is it. A star is the triangle or the octagon answer is octagon. Oh out who says on the out like it was a star shape like ring that we very unique indifference. What Beer Company started to sponsor the UFC in two thousand eighteen? The ultimate championship well known for its logo plastered all over. The Octagon Motocross rutland events promoting this partnerships when the announced the ending of its nine year sponsorship with an house. Bud Light being known as the bureau of the FCC the FCC foundry completely shocked not knowing where their focus would be turned to when bud signed a promotional contract. It initially sent out the message that this was a real player in the role of sports in twenty eighteen. The signing more to your sponsorship deal were a Mexican import brand what beer company began sponsoring the UFC. In two thousand eighteen. Was it Corona Miller Heineken or Maddelo? If you guys have heard Bruce buffer talk in every before every fight sponsored by Delo. The answer is mud Delo. That's an easy one there. Question seven what year was a? Ufc found in you. Guys should are known as the other fighting championship franchise bowl known as the home in bars across the globe. The thrill of watching it la La so when was the UFC founded the AFC was founded in nineteen ninety three. Yeah the other options. Were nine hundred ninety two early two thousand three to late one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Are we bit way too early? Nineteen ninety-three was the best one because at that point. That's when the older fighting craze really began to bleed in towards a pop culture media. I remember that I remember that old. What Year was run? Rossy science the UFC was it. They'll see a month so this from previous question here. She debuted in two thousand thirteen now. The Dow debut in November two thousand thirteen or August twenty. Thirteen runner Asi debuted in November thirteen. What's your own so she debuted in In Two thousand twelve hour as a huge Alpha me. So that's the that's the wrong for me. Then tonight run around she signed to the AFC in November of two thousand twelve. All right. I've actually for. I thought she finds twenty thirteen. But signing two thousand twelve graphic on that who won the first series of the author powder light heavyweights. Was it. All right guys who who? Who was the first altered fighter in every division? Would it Tito Ortiz? No Nathan Says No Conor McGregor no forrest Griffin technically Stephan Bonner ascherson that who is the youngest champion in. Ufc history Youngest champion Ever Easy John Jones. Oh this is all right. This is This is GonNa be the last one. And it's a very unique one. What you have referee is being described. The referees best known for officiating numerous ultimate fighting championship fights in two thousand six. This referee opened his own. Mma JIM IN LA California. He's also a former police officer for the LAPD. His nickname came from his large size and stature. Sending six four three win two hundred sixty pounds on the euro see. He was a senior free and was most well known for his cash race. Looks good on. He served as the head referee for nearly every alternate championship from years. He to to USC seven what yes. He referee is being described here. Who is a big six foot three? Lapd deep voice referee in the AFC. Is it CONOR MCGREGOR? Yes if you chose CONOR MCGREGOR. You are definitely wrong. There is IT BRUCE. I DID NOT KNOW BRUCE. Buffer was free nor was he six for three. Is it her know her teen? I don't think has a background as an lapd officer or is it? Big John McCarthy. The answer is big John McCarthy futurist Conor McGregor than you are definitely not from this world or nor. Do you watch anime okay? That's what I kind of a fun there. Thank you for playing along with me if you're at home and thank you for listening to the MC podcast brought to you by the MC podcast network to ask that you please remember to subscribe to the show and write a nice review. That really helps them off if you can follow us on twitter and on instagram. 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MMA News Update | March 19, 2020

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

04:25 min | 7 months ago

MMA News Update | March 19, 2020

"You're listening to vox media long as a network. It's evening on Thursday. March Nineteenth. Twenty twenty and here are some updates about Ma and health. The novel Corona Virus is affecting events around the world. You'd see President Dana White insists that U. OF C. To forty nine is still happening quote. Habib and Tony is going to happen. White told in Canada. We're going to figure that out. We're going to make it happen and then it's just going to be a matter of how quickly we can get back to being normal white said later in that interview. Listen if you're a fan a media member whatever you might be. Do you WanNa bet against me. You WanNa bet that I can't pull stuff off another enemy promotion still trying to keep the wheels turning cage. Warriors had Wayne's Today for its event that was moved from London to Manchester all twenty two fighters scheduled for Friday's cage warriors. Won Thirteen card successfully. Made wait under some unique circumstances. Extra precautions were taken for the weigh ins to minimize contact and exposure including the fighters being weighed in in three separate groups and only one team member being allowed to be present during weights the promotion also stated that quote all athletes checked for symptoms of covered nineteen by an onsite medic at the Wayans also staff and crew members are expected to be checked for Kobe. Nineteen symptoms when entering the arena on Friday and fighters will be tested a second time before competing. It should be noted that the carriers of the corona virus can be symptomatic even after days of being exposed to the virus and that a lack of symptoms does not mean. The afflicted is not contagious. In a rare case of Cross Promotion Cage Warriors won thirteen will be headlined by UFC. Middleweights Darren Stewart and Bartoshuk. Forbidden sqi about the was originally scheduled for UFC London on Saturday before. That event was indefinitely postponed. Mason Jones Fights Joe McColgan for cage warriors lightweight title and Patty. The body. Pin Bullet faces decades Alton. The fight will be broadcast on. Ufc fight pass at five PM Eastern also on Saturday combat night. Eighteen will still go down in Jacksonville. Florida there will be no crowd in attendance but the Florida state. Boxing Commission has allowed the event to move forward as scheduled Brazilian. Mma PROMOTIONS JUDO. Brazil and jungle fight decided to postpone their upcoming events in Manaus in Rio de Janeiro. Uh Corona virus cases escalate to more than five hundred thirtieth country brave. Cf's upcoming card was scheduled for March. Twenty eighth also in Brazil and was scheduled to feature the start of companies flyweight tournament however that event has also been postponed. Mma FIGHTING REACHED OUT TO BRAVES OFFICIALS. Asking if fighters were to be fully paid or percentage of it since the event won't happen under unavoidable circumstances but the promotion won't compensate them because quote. The event hasn't been canceled. It was postponed brave. Cf has yet to confirm a new date for upcoming events. Originally booked for Brazil Sweden and Romania we had previously reported bare knuckle. Fc Eleven being postponed this weekend in Kansas but now they're April twelfth event in Alabama is also being indefinitely postponed despite all this the U of C continues to book fights with Clinton Abrego vs Godzilla. Murad until off set for UFC COXON scheduled for June. Twenty third also re booking fights as Christmas IAGO's out with an injury is replaced by Frank Camacho against a lawn patrick in Lincoln Nebraska on April twenty fifth fighters coping without their gyms the Happy Warrior Roxanne Motor Ferry keeps her spirits up whilst syndicate is closed by practicing social distance. Jujitsu with her teammate. Valerie wonk keep it at may fighting dot com for updates interviews and more from the world of mixed martial arts.

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01-15-20 MMA: Native fighters in the ring

Native America Calling

56:30 min | 9 months ago

01-15-20 MMA: Native fighters in the ring

"Welcome oh come to native America calling from Studio Forty nine in Albuquerque. I'm Tara Gatewood and if you're from the eighties you know what that song means. It's time to pump up the energy. We're using it to gear up for a visit with the native athletes of the ring. which in the case of today's guests? There's sometimes a cage today. We'll talk with native mixed martial arts athletes. Their sport is full-contact and it can be bloody at times but it also teaches discipline and resiliency stay tuned for MMA in need of America right after the news. This is national native news Antonio Gonzales supporters and opponents of the keystone xl pipeline summarized. Eleven days of testimony Moni before the South Dakota water-management board Tuesday attorneys for the South Dakota Water Rights Program and TC energy hold the state law limits. The board's consideration specifically to the use of water during pipeline construction but opponents including tribal citizens say the board has an obligation to consider potential water contamination and health consequences after the pipeline is finished Victoria wicks reports and mine's Bailey represents the state water rights program. Graham she says. The Water Management Board's Authority is limited to one chapter of State Law. Tidal forty-six is about the appropriation of water. It's about setting aside water for a very specific us. It's not about water quality minds. Bailey says public interest considerations must be limited to pipeline construction. Not What happens after the pipeline is finished and she knows that the statute does not provide for consideration of an applicant's character or past axe. But the attorney for the Rosebud Sioux tribe and great eight planes tribal water alliance. Says that's exactly what the board should do. Peter Cappelli says the only way to translate tribal concerns is by examining risk and and past. Actions can help with that. He tells the board that the Federal Pipeline Safety Agency has determined that the leak detection used by energy is effective only twenty three eight percent of the time so we have in Freeman the league actually going on for days or weeks or we don't know how long and landowner discovers it he says keystone excel can carry Harry up to eight hundred thousand barrels a day the leak detection threshold of one percent. What that means is eight thousand three hundred barrels of oil? uh-huh can leak every day in the waters of South Dakota. If this project is built nobody will know the board heard testimony from two attorneys supporting the pipeline permit and for attorneys and three three pro se interviewers against it for national native news. I'm Victoria wicks in rapid city. South Dakota Nevada tribes discuss priorities at the four directions and Nevada tribal nations native American Presidential Forum. Twenty Twenty in Las Vegas Tuesday leaders. From seven of Nevada's twenty-seven tribes took to the stage to talk about protecting sovereignty economic development and other issues Arlan Melendez chairman of the Reno sparks Indian colony says healthcare's of top concern. When you really think about everyday everyday life I think it's healthcare because there's not a day that goes by that somebody on our reservation isn't sick or just passed away and so as you know? The the affordable healthcare act is really important to us here in the state of Nevada. You know when we talk about healthcare you know. There's a lot of changes that are going going through congress. There's a changes of the nation chairman. Anthony Sampson of the Pyramid Lake. tribe says one of the biggest health care needs four Nevada tribes the hospital. We see all the rest of the nations in the South West building hospitals. But we don't have when here. We need one that is central centrally located in the state of Nevada that can serve our twenty seven tribes in the state and the surrounding areas. Also when you look at it we are underfunded and we do need congress to to fully appropriate. IHS So that we can maybe create our own area office. The tribal leaders say they're looking to members of Congress and the next administration to guard Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act and fully fund tribal healthcare programs Nevada tribes in the group for directions are hosting the two day event which includes a photo training and panels with candidates running for president independent candidate mark. Charles whose Navajo attended the forum in person. Tuesday newsday attendees are expected here from four. Democratic candidates Wednesday organizers say all candidates running for president were invited. I'm Antonio Gonzalez. Kansallis and national native news is produced by Colonic Broadcast Corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting. Like the circle of life. There is an opportunity that comes around every ten years a chance to participate and lead our voice be heard it lets others know who we are and where we are. The twenty twenty cents will be our opportunity to shape our future for generations to come shape our future start here. Learn more at twenty twenty cents Dot Gov paid for by the US Census Bureau native voice one the native American radio network. This is native America. Calling I'm Tara Gate. Would native athletes are increasingly showing up in pro mixed martial arts bouts and they're bringing with them increased interest from native fans. MMA style training is also a popular fitness regime for people who may have no plans to step into the rink. It's proponents say it teaches more important lessons like worth ethic and end resilience our associate producer. Anne Murphy Talk With David Marsh a professional. MMA welterweight fighter. Who is Oglala LAKOTA? And he he fought in the P. F. L. Championship fight on New Year's Eve. Here's David talking about what the sport has taught him. Keep your hands up and try not. Let's get hit. I mean I feel like the lessons that I've learned throughout my career is just you'd have to stay resilient and things are gonna be the hard but as long as you keep working keep trying your best. Then things will eventually work out. Your last match. Didn't go as planned And I know you you know in any sport you have to also deal with the losses. What what's maybe some advice you'd like to share with people with athletes about Dealing with a loss last fight that I had was the most heartbreaking loss like you could possibly have Fighting for a million dollars in a world title I had hundreds of messages on social media and all the social media things. They can't wait. You excited for you to bring that belt back to the Ras or you can give. It didn't happen so that was obviously the worst loss I've had but It's just I know that's not the end. It's it's kind of just the beginning. I made it so far and I didn't get to where I wanted to be but I know the type of athlete I am. I know the type of fighter I am and doesn't no matter what anyone else thinks because I know how good I am and I have that confidence in me next year is going to be different. You've been doing speaking GIG that a couple of different schools. I know a lot of the students in that area. I really excited to see you. What is your message to two young native athletes elite? Well I mean I like you gotTa get good grades. I try to start with that. You know it's a lot of times when you're in high school like like I think people forget how how it was to be young and you know seems like Kinda adults and teachers talking at you. You kind of tune them out but he needed. Keep your schoolwork up. You need to take it seriously but then after that just resiliency just you know. Just some GOP. She bite back. Because my career has not been smoothed it has not been all successes and rainbows butterflies. Like I've had a few successes but I've had big failures but I just keep fighting back and I have another success that a big failure. There's another success that a big failure but with where I'm at now still going up but even then I just had a huge failure but that's not going to deter me. That's not GonNa stop me because I know the hard work put in the teammates I have and the supporters Porter's had behind me how you know having supporters behind you. How does that affect your performance or affect the way you think about yourself as an An athlete I feel like the all the sport I get really drives me through training and whenever I'm going out walking into the cage for the fight just know everyone is behind me and everyone that wants to win and everyone. That's Sharon for me so I always try to just kind of use positive energy. I don't like you know people like oh so so doubted near the hater or this map. But that's not for me. I try to I try to always just think about the people that are behind me the people that are going to be happy about me winning. I want I wanNA use that energy only that good energy to fuel me through training into fuel me through fights are you training mean I something else in in the future something coming up in the future for you. I just had surgery I won't be fighting for a while but I'll be back with that same promotion next year you're on the PF L. fighting on ESPN. So just GONNA keep working. Keep in better keep improving everywhere and get ready for the next season But right now like I said I had surgery on my thumb and I'm just kinda hanging out hanging back home and going around and speaking at some schools a lot of schools inquired about me going and speaking. So I've been doing that anything else. You WanNA share you know. Most of our listeners are native who we got a radio stations. All across native America in and around tribal communities Anything else you WANNA YOU WANNA say to them. You know if you're listening it's like I'm from Pine Ridge And I was just playing co main event on. ESPN on New Year's Eve Don't let the let people you put you in a box and say that you can only do so much or you're not. You're not going to be able to do this or that. You can do anything you'd be the best in the world anything you put your mind. We're card so just keep that hard work up and just be ready for anything and go take what's yours and that was David bulldog Mashhad talking with associate producer. Andy Murphy are you a fan of his. Have you followed his career any thoughts on what shared give us a ring. One eight hundred nine nine six next to eat for eight is the number. And we're going to hear from more Emma Maine Native Fighters Today But we also want to hear from you. Are you a fan of the sport or you training training. And what is Emma may mean to you give us a call at one. Eight hundred nine six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native and just hearing his story of you got to keep going. Despite what you're faced with I think is a really huge lesson and athletes of any kind. That's something that seems. Go across any sport and so as you hear more about MMA You can share your thoughts too about just what it means about Knowing your body and taking it to its full potential any thoughts on that gives us a ring. One eight hundred nine six two eight four eight right now. We're GONNA go two six nations Ontario in Candida to say hello to Shayna Pooja she is the founder of power are women or POW. She's also a purple belt. Indigent sue with the background own in martial arts in Cheese Nakada from the white bear. First Nation entreaty four territory. Our pleasure to have her here Shayna. Welcome to native America calling our say hello great to Be Hearing Your Voice. Shane and I've been reading about some of your work. And what drove you you to jump into MMA in so talk to me a little bit about that journey. Well actually. I kind of grew up around Martial Arts Training my my step dad was a boxer so I kinda grew up watching him do workouts in the basement My brother was also boxer and then we both started. Emma may training together the other Just kind of out of curiosity. We've you know wrestled a lot. We did some Like taekwondo when we're younger And we just wanted to really really check it out for healthwise and also just to learn some self defense in so how do you like to explain gleaned would it brings to your life when you are involved in enemy enemy I like to think of it as kind of having my own on space to you. Know really take my own power back a lot of times. We just kind of have struggles in her life or whatever and once you're on the mat everything just you know all you only have to do is just you know. Do your best and keep trying and you get humble and you keep trying you fail and you keep trying and it's just it's just a a nice as protests In all areas of my life I guess into listeners. Who aren't that close to it? Go Go ahead in Tell us what it is anime training Like you you go on the mats and you know there's there's people wrestling There could be ground survival striking Mixing it up against the cage against the wall. Aw strengthening conditioning. There's a lot of nutrition that's involved If you don't look after your body properly then you're going to break down. You're not going to be performing. I mean you know your best. You're not going to be thinking on your. You know you won't be on your toes and it just affects everything so Just being around a good group of people and positive minds to it really changed my life to to make some better decisions in my life and so why is it called mixed martial arts. Well there's there's different styles that you can You learn from the ground survival. There's wrestling and you just do. Not you know stuff on the ground They're striking kickboxing boxing. moist-eyed there's And then when you mix it up you put put those those different movements and and Techniques together then it's like you know it's a mix and that's kind of where that sports evolving too is all these fighters they're not just kick boxer versus Jujitsu guys like a really good multi guy with background in wrestling and you just do and you know just whatever else he's training so it's like I'm amazed is really evolving into its own type of Uh sport in so tell me about Power are women. So Powell I call it POW It's Kinda started handed out from you know just really knowing That women and girls need the service When I first started doing Jujitsu when and martial arts I had other people come up to me and say you know they were inspired and then they tell me that you know they tell me their stories? You know something that happened inches on minute. You know a lot of times it's not A good story right And they would ask me if I could teach them. You know something here. Or they're just a couple of techniques and I didn't want to cause I was still you know learning still student myself but I ended up. You know just saying yeah you know just teach you what I what I learned. Today you know and The for for you know the sake of learning something But then I start getting more and more Because is I'm a woman and they felt more comfortable learning from another woman and it's a little bit difficult for another woman to go into This male dominated sport. You know to you know all these rolling grunting men on the Mat and you kind of put yourself in the middle of that or put yourself underneath. Another guy could be uncomfortable at first but It it takes a while to get into it But I like to create that space for the women and girls to you know. See what they're truly capable of and really See their own strengths and their weaknesses. Mrs and in a comfortable comfortable space and that's really important. I think you know getting back to just understanding your body's as potential In what it can you know. Do when when you understand your limits when you understand your weakness That's something I really enjoy hearing about this sport in in we'll hear more about it right. After the break hang tight Komo baby baskets and Plateau Shell. Dresses are a couple of things that the winners of the First People's Fund community spirit awards words are known for on the next native America calling. We'll talk with artists about their work in passion for passing on traditional artistic gifts to another generation. Should we hope you can join us. I'll talk you're picky Tzaneen Awa- pillow Hajjah Wahad Chuck on uneven walking the law lock hole which is on the wall okay L. Your newsletter your healthcare dot Gov initial must uphill one eight hundred three one eight two five nine six let will kind of Medicare and Medicaid ot at the Hilo Haw headshot through Ella. You're listening to native America calling interrogation from misled a Pueblo. And today we're talking about mixed martial arts. It includes is fighting techniques from disciplines like kick boxing. Judo jujitsu karate. Wrestling and boxing is something. You're passionate about do you train a fight or just do it to get fit. Join our conversation by calling one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight. That's also one eight hundred nine nine native and before the break we introduced introduced. You to Shayna Papa. The founder of power our women our pleasure to have her here and she not talk to me a little bit more about about those lessons. I think your body teaches you through enemy. Yeah so the number one thing that you learn In like like this close contact sport is body awareness. You learn more about yourself How you move? How other people move You learn your own strengths. Thanks and your weaknesses and it's really important for you to to see those things because if you don't see her weaknesses your opponents going to see them and They'll bank ain't gone that and you're going to lose their match or your your Your fight so the more you understand about yourself. You know. That's where you Kinda you kinda get your power back. I guess and I think that's that's the most important thing that I get out of me. It's just really learning more. Don't myself and what I'm truly capable of doing and then testing myself again and you know and just keep going at Making myself a better person. Well I'm glad you're sharing in your story with us. We'd like you to share yours too. You can dial in one eight hundred nine six two four eight is a number maybe you train 'em Ma style. What does it bring to your life? One eight hundred nine six two eight four eight again is the number and right now. We're going to go to Virginia Minnesota to say hello to In delessio Theo tat. Romero the third. He is a professional enemy fighter in. He is Turtle Mountain. Nobby our pleasure to have him here. UNDULATE AH under Lucille and Thank you for joining us in a No. Most people know you as TAT tat. Welcome to the hour. Thank you and so tell us some imme- how do you fit into this. Go ahead Sure exactly how I fit into but and I've wrestled basically my entire life since I was three years old. wrestled through high school and college and just kind of fell into. It just seemed like the next possible thing that I could do. That would keep me close to what I grew up on so I just kind of fell into it that and what would you say is one of the most valuable lessons you learn from. MMA training just that. There's there's always there's always always one more around the that's something that I'm learning recently. Is he always feel like there's one one more round in yeah and I guess it's don't ever stop following. Your dreams is what I what I've always gotten out of it in Sioux. ooh What gets you pumped up for a fight Jeez Just just to competition. I mean there's nothing more pure in this world is You know man man-on-man competition you know strength restraint. Guess that that kind of motivates me more in anything that was put in my best somewhere else and so have you ever surprised yourself on. Just how are you able to take things I like to think I surprised myself. Every it's like you know I always told myself I. I don't WanNa do it. No Marlon doing it again so Player so there's always one more around. How is surprised myself at After the next bell right well maybe you feel the same about all this. Go ahead. Dial in one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight. We're GONNA say hi now to Russell in lack flambeau Wisconsin listening in on W. O. J. B. Russell. Thank you for giving us a ring. Go ahead you're on air. Yeah I'm just going Uncle Mel told me to call and If you're worried about what we got going on here Flambeau it's Related to MMA. Boxing you know one of the basis of m. e. and Yeah we're making a national run at the UH down in. Kansas City is getting city Missouri. It'd be held on thirty first. This weekend will be In cley Minnesota the regional and we had some Some of our kids go past the state level. So we're looking to win this weekend and then carry a young to the national level in for you Russell teaching this kind of skill or making sure that others have that opportunity. What do you feel? You're opening up to them. You know different world or something else. Well it's a it's it's definitely definitely a different world but it's easier than it looks in the society today with a you know the bullying anti bullying and all this kind of stuff if you know Teaching them defend themselves. Not only in the ring out of the ring. You know a lot of our kids by for survival. Their whole lives in just Their background you know coming from He's different things like this There's a lot of skills that carry-on beyond the rain you know as far as You know like the guy that was talking before competition-wise but You know these skills feels like never give up you know Attitude all these things that are all these different Skills that help you deal with emotions. Motions hinder the professionalism. You know when to You know a certain all these things you know an and being in front of people you know we're building leaders of our great leaders have from from From these types of backgrounds you know and then gone on to do great things so turn it really is something that also helps build a lot of confidence and when you think of Those people who've done MMA and then move onto beer leaders leaders right now two of our native representatives in Congress have MMA backgrounds. Did you know about that Share your thoughts. One eight hundred nine nine six two eight four for eight Russell. Thank you for giving us a ring. We're GONNA take another caller. We got Melvin on the line. Tuned into day. Melvin thanks for dialing in go ahead. You're on air. I guess Badly here Russell. And what's going on in Wisconsin Recently we had a doctor here at santee. Yeah he Fought in Thailand type of fighting. They do with their That that professional kickboxing or I'm not sure what the big thing in Thailand is but he. He was explaining to me how it's used to control any most is type the fighting. It always use it when not to use it. I think is what you're referring to. Yeah Yeah Yeah he you know Oh. He wanted to start a class here but they didn't renews contract. But you know. I'm glad that he's a native Hawaiian Hawaiian and I thought it was just great that it came the tribes and he was trying to encourage this type of physical uh-huh physical activity and thought it would be good for the kids to basically get shaped by doing this type. Sure He Bruni C brings lots of them Different benefits and I think controlling emotions And that is a big one. I'm take that back to TAT tat. What do you think about that I think it's an excellent source to gain control over your emotions. uh-huh that one thing that I've always loved about like but wrestling kind of dressy correlation and amaz teachers without realizing a lot of cognitive skills Attack In different situations and steps that take go a lot of cognitive thinking and problem solving and So that's one thing that I have always pushed on. Ah The younger athletes ability to problem solve tax problems different angles in when we aren't using those the skills a lot of drama can happen. Especially when we're not in control of our emotions in China anything to add Yeah no it's it's it definitely affects my game. I always have to Do some type of training just to make sure that you know I'm I'm ready for situation nations And like just like being an indigenous woman house feel like I have to do something like that you know or else make sure my my nieces or my sisters. Is there okay and you know it's like it's it's just something that were always faceless thing And I'm always encouraging others. It is to you know to jump in or Just because it's so important and it really opens up your your range of motion and in different ways. Okay well thank you and there you go to perspectives. We're going to add a third here joining us now. In studio forty nine is Chee Baits. He is the owner of Bates. Premiered ear taekwondo he is Navajo. And it's our pleasure to have him here for another one of our conversations chief thank you for being here and let's go further on abyss of taking some of this outside of the ring in a plane to our lives and I know you work with a lot of youth So there's a lot of wealth that you know we can be given them Go ahead any initial statements in talking about also as well Carrying it outside of the ring or what we see on TV in these huge matches of mate is Chuck Nutt who will will cause. I used to fight remain. I've been grapplers quest around under John. Machado INTRODUC- so I have no everything they were talking about as far as like the bullying. And why are you training. And why you doing the fitness and you have to take care of your body and everything like tat because when you're finding an ma Because we were talking about this. There's time that you're in you're getting punched and you're on the ground they had you and you're wondering why. Why am I doing this? And then you're like oh because I like it and then there's also that point to where you're like. Oh this is so fun and you have to find deep down inside yourself to get past it and some people give up some people work through through it and that's just like life so anything that you do martial arts status. It could be whatever Marshall is. You're there with people and you're always he's pushing yourself and some people quit and some people will keep pushing yourselves. And that's life you're going to be put in bad situations in life and you'll people to push through it or you're just gonNA quit so martial arts and a taekwondo would I do. It really helps your confidence and everything I think people that start anything martial arts wise. They're always afraid the most important thing is they're afraid to get on the mat their favorite put on the gloves. And once you get past that being the fear then everything else becomes easier and you will see that with each time you go in and and train you build more confidence now. You're walking down the mall and you get confidence. Now your head's not hanging low and now you're walking looking. People is a Haywar. I said what's up. Whatever you WANNA do but it will confidence and confidence goes a long way in your life? There's things that you can do that. You don't think you can do you if you didn't have confidence. And martial arts. MMA boxing kickboxing Jiu jitsu grappling taekwondo. Karate whatever martial arts you do it builds so much confidence in. That's what I do with Mike. It's you know I start my kids at two to five to four in a MARDI building confidence in him and I push each and every one of them to their limit because they're going to be bullied one day at school Something's going to happen into them at school and I want to give that confidence for them to be able to just go through it and not be afraid because if you can teach kids so kids I don't know what fear is right but if you end up teaching kids what fear is. Then they'd be then the scared of it but if you can just put him on a path give them confidence and show them how things should be. Then there's always the doctor be fear but how who teaches fear is the parents. It's right or just whoever so that's my job is when I do this with the kids as I want to keep pushing him in working to build that confidence in everybody because I mean I work with a lot of kids but you know native Americans you know word warriors within right. We've been fighting forever and we're always we're always always fighting. And that's what I push with all of my kids you know. It doesn't matter if you're Hispanic white black whatever it is it's I push rush each and every one of those kids because I want them to be the best at what they do and if it's not inside my taekwondo school. It's going to be athletics. Whatever athletics they do it's going to be in their books? Whatever it is so if I can drive them and push them? They're going to be so good when they leave one day. So that's my two cents on that when we talk about that confidence to of also being humble at the same time where You're not at a point. Where like I know these skills? I'm GonNa just pick a fight or you know out of you teach that to about being humble about this knowledge or Knowing when to use is it in knowing when not to use it I think that becomes with the training Because I've had kids come into the school who've been bullied and I had kids who come into the school who've been bullied and there's all buddies there's always somebody better than you down the road so the kids have been and bullied. I give that confidence and show them and they kick and punch and then they're good and they don't really they don't really use it outside right because they know what they can do now the kids that I do have who are beliefs and they come in the first thing I do is I put him with some who's better than them and they spar and they realize they're not as good as they think they are so it humbles them and then we teach them how to control older anger. We teach them how to confidence. Breathe and relax and not just go to that pop two years like mad and you just want to go think first and then react not just react so all of these kids are trained and they don't look for fights because they know what they can do now if someone approaches them then does something then. They can do whatever they need to do. But I've trained all my kids to just stay humble and that's in the Cheney and everybody has different training different philosophies and everybody's you know Has Their own thing. But what I teach is. You're good you know you don't have to look for fights people push you whatever no big deal but if you get into a fight and they're comfortable are doing what they need to do to protect themselves so going back to you know my kids. They they know. And it's just part of the training that we do that all right in your also Giving more opportunities -tunities to youth. You started a nonprofit. We'll talk a little bit about that after the break. But if you want to join us to we're ready to hear your story one eight hundred nine six two eight eight four eight is the number or you can tweet your thoughts to us at one. Eight hundred nine native We know many people tune-in through podcasts. In we appreciate you taking this wherever you go And if you didn't know yes we do we podcast. You can hear this program or you can always find things in our archive live at native America calling dot com and we are talking. MMA today. When I say those letters what does it mean to you? Are you a fan of the sport. Catrine go ahead. Share your story by dialing in one eight hundred nine nine. Six two eight four eight liked liked the circle of life. There is an opportunity that comes around every ten years a chance to participate and let our voice be heard it it lets others know who we are and where we are. The twenty twenty census will be our opportunity to shape our future for generations to come shape our future start here learn more at twenty. Twenty Census Dot Gov paid for by the US Census Bureau. Thank you for tuning in. You're listening to native America Calling Tara Gatewood and we are talking about. Ma Today Who's your favorite native? MMA fighter what draws you to the sport. There's still time to join our conversation by calling one eight hundred nine nine six two eight four eight. It's also one eight hundred nine nine native and here in studio forty nine. With today's debates he is the owner of Bates Premier Taekwondo he is Navajo and pleasure to have him here and CI. You're also making and opportunities so that Young People can learn you know one of the basic elements of enemy. Anything share about that. Yeah I started. This nonprofits taekwondo in the Five O.. Five and you know a lot of people don't know how far taekwondo taekwondo with my kids took them all over the world and when I say Oliver World it took him all over the world you know and so I started this nonprofit take one on the five oh five to reach out two youths who can't afford taekwondo training can't afford tuition for travel can't afford a registrations registrations for tournaments and I reached out to the casino so we can bring money into this nonprofit and give these youths an opportunity opportunity to train fitness. You know build that confidence and having go out and travel around The state you know most people say what are you being. Phoenix had been to La. been to Dallas right but you know you take some of these kids and you take him to Miami you take them to New York and even take him out of the country to like Toronto your Mexico City or Costa Rica. I mean it gives them a whole broad a different areas in different countries. They can go to see different cultures. You know because every every culture was different right especially if you go to Mexico. There's no English anywhere you go to Costa Rica. There's no English anywhere you have to you. Learn how to talk and be with these people and this nonprofit 'cause I I want to give these kids an opportunity to just get so much experience when their use because you know most kids are you know when you turn eighteen. You go to college work and life goes on and I want to start this for these kids so they can get these opportunities in go to these other places experience experience so much more in their lives before their real life starts because now life starts and you wish you had opportunity when you're young to do things you know because so with what. I'm doing with this. Nonprofit is giving more kids opportunities so if anybody's Out there listening you know You know hookup Taekwondo In the five five beats Moore Taekwondo looking for lots of donations For these helping coming up the youth. And and that's the I want you. That's reason why started. Taekwondo program is for the kids. I want these kids to use what they've learned in taekwondo and use it in their lives. Come in for four years five years one month or whatever you know. It's what we do is I build athletes and confidence you know believe in themselves. That's really hard to get when you're playing video games all day. He we know you know. That's that's the worst thing. As far as our kids are on video games all the time on the phone on their xbox on their PS P. system or whatever it is right and they want to be those characters that they're playing they've the guys running and being strong and do stuff. So that's what I do at my core. I pushed the kids I have lots of videos bait smear taekwondo in youtube and you can go there and you can see what these kids do six thousand square feet. These kids push sleds. They climb ropes use battle. Ropes have kettlebells. They have medicine balls. I mean it's just not taekwondo taekwondo and kicking. It's a whole entire fitness program for these kids and you can talk to any of my parents any of the kids and they'll say it's it's tough you know and I want kids who want to be tough and I hate to say it but you know basement to water down school. I want watt kids. Who are going to be tough? I want kids who are going to be strong and I want them to be really good people when they leave when day. My school is this world world. Boy this world this world play and and the way it pushes back and You know the things that we're faced with and something that Any any athlete Understands that all of these things take work in. It has to be constant in you. You know it's going to be a stretch stretch that you're not gonNA walk in one day to any of these Different sports and then all of a sudden you know you got it. You might have some skills walking in and and It's great when that happens but really understanding that it is about discipline Anything you want to share about that Jean disciplined and you know it it goes it starts. I mean discipline starts at home. You know I can only disciplined so many school right beside liability anyway by the way but you know discipline you it. The kids that come Monday through Saturday they get the discipline you you know. I have some kids that come in at four o'clock. Don't leave till eight. Because they're training the whole tape there. Either helping me teach chaining in their working. They get that discipline they get that hard work ethic. You know. They've just got done doing school from what nine to three. And then they come taekwondo and they do their stuff at Taekwondo Cuando. That's her work ethic. They get up go to school master job and then they come and take school and that's their fitness and so the kids that come in and put that time in. They're going to have a good work ethic. You know first of all. They're going to be in shape because they're doing everything but that work ethic nick is going to be with them they learn how to get through learn how to when they're tired or sore and sometimes they wanna be there if they can get over that mental apart. They can go so far in their lives. You know you have people who just don't have that mental toughness. You know if I'm standing right here in another person's standing right here and we're doing rope drills you know He's doing exactly the same thing I'm doing if I'm the hundred and I'm keeping up with him. It's the first person who gets mentally tired. It's not the person gets you know arms stuff. It's the person who says. Oh man this is so hard I wanNA acquit and you look over to your left thing. Is he slowing down. I can go into stop. 'CAUSE THEY WANNA stop and maybe the other guy like this fun. I'm GONNA keep going. Oh Man I loved the I loved. were all miss the hard work I like it. You know. It's the mental part and that's where the discipline comes in so if you can get over the mental part like you said you can do anything anything because everybody is the same everybody starts out as the same. You know. You're a baby. Have you grow Eh. Everybody has the same opportunity you know. And it's the mental part of the makes you tough right so everybody says mental. It is mental because it's not what I was enemy fighter and one of my good friends out there John Judy who's over at fit in. HP He was like dude you had it all but it was the mental part. That missed you up in it. was you know so if I can get these young kids to get over that mental part and just do whatever they need to do when I asked him or do whatever they need to do is core can go so far. You know. It's always about the kids. It's always about the kids meeting that mental challenge any thoughts on that. Go ahead dial in one eight hundred the nine six two eight four eight is number also here with us on the line is Sheena UPA Owner and founder of power. Our our women Joining us and also on the line to is In Dallas Yo Tat Romero the third who is also a professional enemy fighter Come to us from the Turtle Mountain and should be nation. Thank you for being with US and That mental game. I guess we can't say enough about outed Sheena anything to add Yeah I mean there's so many times where you have to like work Eric. Yourself through these difficult situations and if you go in there with a reaction instead of you know trying to think things through You're just GONNA scramble and it's going to be you know you might put yourself back in a position that you could have easily got out Just by taking it taking a little slow or you know just thinking it through a little bit more or being a little more calm and when you do things a little more calm than can kind of understand understand how things work and you know just even that disciplined. You know always having that if you're disciplined you learn so much more there's no motivation is kind of a funny word. You know like you're not GonNa just go get motivation or you're not going to be motivated all the time. It's decide constant habit that's going to get you That success that you're looking for If you say I'm not motivated today you know that's you know that's a lot of people say that but you just you have to think about the discipline that you That you need in order to succeed and that's something my coach. Just you know reminded me about like couple couple of weeks ago. We sat down had coffee. And he's like you know you need more discipline me too. But he was like on me like we were talking about health and wellness honest and business and everything all you know on on and off the Mat. You know going through struggles going through trying to get my my curriculum going and you know just everything and and it's all about discipline and creating that solid foundation for yourself indeed in anything to add go ahead. Oh He's okay And she a you also work with youth to in also understand the troll sel adding nutrition in there and we've heard heard from about the benefits of working with young people in preparing them before they enter later years in their life. Anything you WANNA share. Yeah you know I've been kind of Expanding my palate in food right now And also trying to get back to to what are indigenous foods are because a lot of these diseases and diabetes and things like that Attack Their first nations people you know and that's something that we have to kind of work through in our you know our communities and finding you know that connection back to the land and the animals and Our traditional food systems has really like kind of sparked this like new Feeling feeling in training so I mean nutrition is is is a huge part. You know in in your performance and I don't like I'm I'm learning that the more eat my own traditional foods the more my DNA's just like loving it. And I just feel like There's there's just just a different kind of vibe in my body and You know just even even being out in the Bush and harvesting our own food you you know the energy is different so that too so there's a lot that comes with A lot of good energy that comes with looking after yourself and and really considering nutrition and something That we've also brought up in in WanNa get your take to Using this as a way to push back against bullying especially for young people but you know what he goes for adults to there are grown bullies their elder bullies are all out there. Anything you want to say Shane. Yeah I mean. There's a lot of lateral violence as you know. It's it's on social media nowadays right everybody's attacking each other on social media and things like that and it can be difficult and like your your mental games not always going to be there. But you know you're gonNA kind of have to push through that and and bullying is something that we have to kind Everybody deals with it right at some point in life. You're going to have a bully and as long as you understand who you are where you come from And be confident and really feel that you know that that love for yourself. It doesn't matter what people say or do you know you still got to like stand there strong wrong face it and and get past it you know on those struggles they they're gonNA come up but they'll pass you know in this show. You know we cover a lot of different topics and bring that reality water. Nations face On a daily basis what they have endured Over generations nations. In anything. You can say Shayna about how these boards are also away to push back at some of that door. Even you know provide a bright space in what somebody might feel is a dark environment. Yeah I mean there's there's a lot of struggles that That our people face or I guess this whole world faces but creating those healthy relationships is so important. You know creating really good relationships with our family respecting Respecting and loving are women and giving the men the space to heal and love and and feel loved and be loved You know I'm just having those healthy relationships is really important to deescalate some of this violence that's going on To create healthier spaces for our children to live in in To help us create some you know better choices or to make better choices. I guess Those are those are things that we really need to focus on. And when you you are looking after yourself you feel that confidence and you want to live a better life for your kids or your family or your community. And then that's I think what creates he's really. Hey Good Beers so and to me martial arts has helped me a lot you know learning about myself or my community your people or relationships or you know just how to handle situations on and off road and it's just you know I'm I'm always going to be loyal to You know our own teachings Ching's and martial arts thank you for that China and she any final comments About a minute. Oh Yeah it's just you know. Just everybody needs to be out there and help each other. And you'll fitness stay healthy. That's that's the main thing people wanna live long. Everybody says I won't live live two hundred care yourself. You know you can do all your stuff but you know you still got to eat right cigar exercise if you want that. You Know Bruce Mutton then then you need spend a little more time in the gym that day or rented a little bit longer you know and You know again one. More time you know anybody out there wants to help out youth BEAT SMEAR TAEKWONDO TAEKWONDO indefinable five donations looking. And just you know making youth strong. And that's something that I I I wanna do for our kids. You know because they say the future right so we need to keep them. We get to help them. We need to give them that confidence so they can do whatever they want they. It can be leaders where he can work and just get through life just being happy. Well thank you. Thank you both for being here with us as well as the more folks that we heard from in this hour and We're going to wrap it up but again if there is still more you want to say you can always post directly early on her website. NATIVE AMERICA CALLING DOT com a reach out to us on social media to were on pretty much our on some some of them or on Instagram instagram twitter. At one eight hundred nine native And that thing they call facebook You can find us there. Thank you to everybody we heard from today. 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Ep. 3,072: Previewing UFC on ESPN 14, Bellator 242, more

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You know. I don't know sometimes. That's just how role, but it's. GonNa. Be a fun show as we. Do a little bit of a preview on UC ON ESPN fourteen which takes place on Saturday. And, it's historic in a way. First of all. It's got a great main event Darren till. And Robert Whittaker. In fact will save some of that when we talked to. Our colleague Danny Segarra. He's GonNa. Join us. He's been joining us for the last couple of shows as we promote AB, Lemos Emmy which is going to. Preview on Monday. It's our Spanish speaking podcast here on enemy junkie. In fact, this time Danny's even going to tell his first guest is going to be so we'll save a little bit of the whitaker. Till talk for then but. I'm GonNa tell you guys why it's historic, and then I'm going to. Kind of point you in the direction of a few. Really Really great great. Pieces that. We have written on our site, and and just some reminders of just how valuable are site is as MMA starting to pick up? So, it's GonNa. Be a fun show. Folks buckle up. It's the enemy junkie radio show. On an early morning Thursday July. Of MMA gone. Gouda. Let me go danny. SUGUTA here. Just wanted to drop in until you about a new show coming to animate junk. It's our Lemus M. E. weekly Spanish. Language dedicated to all things professional fighting on this show we'll be covering the biggest news and topics of Emmy plus highlighting the most relevant stories in the growing Latin American. Limos semi may we also featured interviews with some of the best fighters, coaches, personalities and experts in the game. You can find us every Monday on your favorite podcast. Starting the lights twenty-seven. All right. HERE'S THE DEAL I. Wanted to let everybody know that first of all. MMA really really is back and in full pretty much, not one hundred percent, but it's getting really close, and I'll tell you why. Because I had to do a double take just to look and make sure that there's fief thirteen fights on Saturday. Know that I didn't fifteen i. don't remember a time. I remember fourteen fifteen. I think I. Remember a fourteen for sure twelve is the standard, and then sometimes you'll go. ooh, we added a thirteenth, but I think I may have heard of a fourteenth year, right? But fifteen for sure no and the only reason I know this is because. I Went back to extreme couture after four months and I was talking to the front. The Guy at the front. Brent I, believe is his name. We've never really formerly been introduced other than the head nod, but except this time he had to take my temperature. told me to wash my hands so. Real cool guys been there for years, and he was like how about that man, fifteen fights and I just here I'm the media guy and I just played it off Lynn. How pop dad's crazy but in my mind I was like what fifteen we've been talking so much about whitaker until and for Brazilian. And dust of soon, and then, why would they do fifteen? Because honestly the think they'd scale back, yeah? They had the four fights. And our Sifi cards, you think they would just kind of distribute them, but then a few of them I believe spilled over because of injuries or corona virus, or or travel I. Don't know. Carla was one of them right so that's why I I okay. I got to keep reminding myself to just take a look. It only takes a few seconds, folks. This is how I i. WanNa tie in and promote the website. On MMA junkie first of all y'all know that you can access it desktop laptop, obviously, but most of our traffic comes from believe it or not, the mobile phone and the tablet and we have a fabulous APP and it's free. And I and I and some of you might be saying Da. You had that for ten years, but believe it or not. People who don't know and I make them download it in front of me when mean fan I'll check out the website. And then they do it and then realize. Oh, wait. A minute is pretty cool so on that website. There's a tab at the top called schedule. And this way until you ever kind of fully back. On the twenty third tonight, you got Titan FC Sixty two. With the headline buyout of good versus mccown. And in Miami Florida? It's GONNA BE UFC fight. Pass that presents this. So I mean if you're looking like there's no excuse now of you're saying man. I just sit at home, and I'm looking for a dumb Netflix show or youtube documentary will now. There's some remain if you really love him and made that much. And you, WanNa see some good fights. To Nana. Turn on the UFC fight pass UFC fighter has been promoting themselves a lot. Where new and improved, and we got some original programming, and and now they got themselves fights right tomorrow, l., f eighty, six Fischer versus flick, also in the UFC fight pass check it out there in Sioux Falls Dakota for that one, and then of course, the return of Bela Tor. Val to forty two. been they had been. The has verses Pettus on Cassville Connecticut. These are on paramount design and Youtube and once you click one of these I wouldn't call him an article, but once you click. The Tab on schedule, and then you click the event that you like in front of you will appear the most updated card that we have where it's taking place. That start times, and how the card is broken up into prelims and main card, so I can tell you right now by staring at this that took two tomorrow. Excuse me. Eight, forty, five, eastern, five, forty, five Pacific on Youtube and his own. You got three fights on the undercard or the prelims. Excuse me. And, then they move over to the main card, paramount and zone ten PM Eastern. With BANDANNAS and Pettus at the top of the Bill Jason. Jackson and Jordan mean formerly of Strikeforce, and you see they are in the Co main event. So you have emmy tonight. Tomorrow night to events and then Saturday. So jet. Yeah, it is legit I'm glad Bill Torrey back though I really am. I'm going to be tuning in not so much because I need to know. WHO's GonNa win this fight or anything like that? It's more of I'm just curious how things are going to look how it's GONNA run. I agree and there's also aside from those two fights that I mentioned. They got a couple of young superstars in Taiwan Claxton Aaron Pico and Raytheon starts. That are also on the fight card so. All the more reason to in and hey, let me tell you something. If you bet on the fights and have to be careful. Because betting is a vice all right you. Have to control. It's like drinking smoking whatever even? It can. It can get out of control, but if you have like. If, you're pretty disciplined, and you may be bet ten bucks a fight twenty bucks five fifty bucks. Whatever it is, you can afford, and you know you can afford it, and you set your limits maybe with whatever house you decide to go to. It can just be a nice way to just sit on the edge, use and cheer for your guy or Gal. If you want to add something to? Why do you think the NFL is so popular? Nobody cares about. Nine picked the right teams as to always use the same teams, the Bengals in the in the in the browns but then the bank bengals started making the playoffs. And I think I start. I honestly slipped in the forty niners there a few years ago when they were four and twelve, but. Whatever, who are to crappiest teams right now? Maybe the jets and the artist formerly known as residents, goes willing to throw his in there while man we had, but second pick, but if I tell you that the jets are minus three, and the Redskins plus Dri and now you got fifty or a hundred bucks on dude. You're popping open a beer and you're cheering your June for three hours. You know and. And see now some things online. Yeah, it's the same thing with me so definitely. Check that out so that's a quick plug for the site. Look at the other tabs to their outstanding The results are hate what happening in. Did it ending around to around three boom? You Click results you scroll down to the events that have taken place. They're already in the plant in the past. See remind yourself of. you know. Here I'll click on one of them. You have see on ESPN three caterers. Iga yeahs island a- Dhabi What the scores again a! He had to forty, nine, forty, six's in a forty eight seven. And then. was it true that the whole main cargo alter decisions? Halley, look at this all right there Santos Rivera Elliott those as they all went to decision. What was that Darcy Chuck who had the darker took that dude? Look Good Caz Matt Shimmy off. He defeated John Phillips in round two. It was a submission Dr. Stroke. Oh Yeah Oh. Yeah, that's right. You know so all that information's real is there, and it's valuable you can tweet it to twitter or facebook if you've been having a conversation on social media just to make it easy. Maybe arguing over what round or something? Our rankings. Tab is right next to that are video tab is right next to that radio is where you can grab all of what includes us so an an all of our social media links, so check it out and please download that APP. Honestly. If you've never gotten, you'll really really like it. Anyway. Let's get on with This fight card here you have see on ESPN. Fourteen. All right goes I. Guess we haven't broken up the show and. Multiple pieces here like before, but Let's do it there at the website deserved a an updated plug on. The outstanding work that's produced every day by our videographers, editors, writers, and of course, the radio team, but the week the fights are on Saturday you have seen on ESPN fourteen an oblast. Through them. Save a little bit of the whitaker till talk for Danny Square. Who will join us a bit? Dow I'll tell you all fifteen cards or that. Coming up starts off with the Daniel Would John Castaneda these are battlements. In fact, I think CASTANEDA HIM FROM COMBAT MEDIC So that's good and Daniel woodsmen with UFC before then we got rock, Ramazani Emmy of I've seen before for sure versus Nicholas Dulcie. Bech Kohia versus panicky and. So there's some ban on weights they're. The girl is she the one that Fatah Jesse just not that long ago. I can turn. Why does she send is the one that was on the ultimate fighter. The last season they had heavyweights and forty five gals. She lost a macy. She Song in the in the finals. In fact, remember the other day when we said he when was the last time we went to a card? I think it was that one. I think that was headlined by. WHO's Mon- RDA? AC She saw La beat can panic me and remember. We noted that. Wow, macy's got a good crowd they were. Okay, yeah, but your question has she. Yes, she has she beat her. Twice right beater in two thousand eighteen, so it's been about eight months and she's fought. Has she twice? I think so. I'm scrolling here. No, she's beating Lena Landsberg. Me Lana Dudayev. Oh Yeah Shit good, good memory or okay. Yes, she did Jessica. Rose Clark back in two thousand fifteen. She lost the. Kaufman, and then she beat Katarina, Lerner, and Leonard. Who who? She is I like watching her fight, and she's like at a moment in her life for she has to you. She's got show us that she's got something. you know right now? I think this is probably that fight. I agree. 'cause batch has been around. She's fought for title. And we know kind of what she can give us. An I don't know that. They'll be much more that she can give us, but she's a good test for panic cans add. But we'll see wins. She wins that. That's what a lot of these veterans these why stick around there are the ones that can put a fighter over with it. What was that Kid Roosevelt Roosevelt about Roberts or something like that? When he fought, Jim Miller remember, he had a quick turnaround and then Melissa you're not ready yet, kid, you know you gotTa. Get past me. So. That happens all the time half. El, Paso versus Tanner Boozer. Most Var Evola of versus Mike Grundy Tom, Esperer Spinelli vs J.. Collier Nichols Dhabi versus Jesse Ronson our starting to get to a Lotta familiar names. Francisco Renaldo versus. your Herbert Rees McKee Cosmos Shimmy of ten days ago. He fought goes now. Look the turnaround. I can appreciate, but we ve already said they got fifteen fights. They don't need. They can go with fourteen didn't need this. But. This guy's willing to fight. Maybe was one of those what we're GonNa have to pay reasonable key. Anyway because we gotta give them a certain amount of fights and a certain amount of time, so we found him an opponent. But. Here's what if they could pull it off and Shimmy of wins then it's historical to fights in ten days. He want again why you know you get excited, but what if you were to lose? A little. It's a little bit. WHAT THE GAMBLING! But Hey man, now is the time to Campbell though with everything going on in the world now is probably the time to take that type of gamble It's fight island. All right. Alex Lavera versus Peterson Motor. Paul Craig Verses They never make it easy. Gadsden Morad and to Google off. Carlos Bars Everson Marina Rodriguez. That'll be from zoom versus Alexander Gustafsen. That's GONNA. Be Fun to East issue. Whoever says Antonio Hosiery era in his final fight sure. Sign be fun. As a potential, it'd be fun, but the last one showed us that they're just in different places in their career now and it really wasn't that much fun. The first one was a Lotta fun, though why is that? The combing event should be I think UELMEN ES and. It's a lot of respected and it's not that they don't deserve it, but. You know the sport is mean okay and that's why. Bret Hart went out the way he did it that summer slam ninety seven and wound up in the WEC. Just sports can be mean man. It doesn't work out sometimes the way you want it to who Tom Brady's with the bucks zere Joe Montana Finish with Casey It's rare that you see like a Kobe Bryant twenty years. You know one organization or something like that. It's just it's a business. I don't think in the coming event, Verdun. Versus Gustafsen sh-sh-she is more. More of a coming event fight for me. Do you see two pairs of gloves being laid down on the on the math at night? If who gets fucked up, yeah, possible right. Yeah, because hosiery is already kind of saying look, I'm out. Either way now does who will join them. If who will wins and he does it easy, you might go. That was easy, giving my two, hundred, grand or three hundred grand, because you always gets paid well, and then he might say. Hey if you need me in November. I got a bruise on my knee from his forehead I'll gladly dance with somebody in November because I was gonna say something really Morbid a second ago. When you said. Hey, if now's the time to take. A risk I was even going to go so far as to say. Do you think any fires go? I could possibly not just die because of this is a dangerous sport, but if cove, it happened to get me I, want to leave my family. Some money. In Viking Bank, some fights quickly during this time in Dean. Kind of dark, maybe not to that extent, but I could see them. The world just keeps spiraling into look at the unemployment rate. Tank him so I'm just looking at it. As maybe they're thinking I could pick up an extra fifty grand to Kinda. Pat Myself through. Whatever's happening now? Shit if I was a fire. That's what I would do think. Win Lose or draw I. Think just that money is is important right now, but. If, there were two pairs of gloves to be laid down Then we come one step closer. To eliminating all of the pride fighters I mean we would be left with over him. For Doom. Who else still active in the AFC. Anderson Kinda SEWRI. I mean you had to fight their five five I think in pride yeah. I'll confirm but I'm pretty sure that's what it was all right Anderson. Who Else? there's not that many I know. There's definitely under ten but Yeah, we become pretty close to. The end of era. In the U. OF C. or just retired an in the UFC okay. I Know Gilbert technically had one fight in pride and I. Don't think he's. You're officially hung them up. I think he'll probably fight for Balladur. This is just for Trivia purposes here. He fought in pride. If Rioch Shonen. Diju Kossi Carlos Newton Alexander Suka at Alex even so it was five on the dive. Yeah nothin notable. We'll see, but. I mean. He took a loss there. To Shit too far, losing streak in in just pride mixed in was Jeremy, Horn and Lee Murray. To Japanese fighters submitted them. About that. Anderson Ogura Shotgun. Fabrizio. Might, be it. There's there might be someone that squeaks through and says. Did you know back in? You know whatever that doesn't. Like if we were to say pick someone like we'll go with Jim Miller again or Klaipeda hey, did you know that I was actually on pride, you know. My first fight ever you know I don't think he'd Count Him. As a pride fighter got one, there might be a technicality. They're Robbie. lawler I'll be. Right, so technically I guess he would count, but then I mean his was fight USA. Still Pride though I know yeah, but. And did he have more than one or that was I think he just had one. The DA's had one but I think he's retired, but he's never given us an announcement. Think he's gotTA UFC contract. but I think he would fall under the lawler category of okay. Was the US. You USA card? So, I don't know. All right. Moving on I wanted to finish the that I started yesterday on sportscaster. while. No, no, I know what I wanted to do. Don't forget to check out the pre event. Facts article that goes up before some of these cards. Shout out to Mike. Bon Abby sue ban. If you just want to get that little familiarity, right? Of a few of these fighters that these names just get thrown in. Every three or four months, so you have no reason to memorize everything thing about every single fighter. This prevent acts articles, usually a good place to go and just get a quick refresher. He'll write something like Antonio's Aaron Nagar. Twenty, three and nine in May may six and six C forty four is the oldest active fighter in the AFC light heavyweight division now Gareth forty four is the oldest of thirty fighters scheduled to compete at the event. See those are just fun facts they. They're useful especially. If you have in friends over I, know I know it's the pandemic, but if you're just. Part of a Chad or something you WanNa. You know somebody people talk about these things you know what I mean like. Hey, there's no guarantee overall recognise. Did he do that? Well, you know hey, so happens i. read that it was six. Like, look at this little piece here on. Carlos Sparta Sixteen and six MMA seven and four in the UC was the first Straw champion. She lost the belt to Yuan J. check at UC, one, eighty, five in March of Two Thousand Fifteen, all K- sells for about five years ago. Esparza competes in Twelfth Star Way Bow in so that makes you think I wonder she's got the most strongly fights ever. You know it's just a question. And he answers it tied for the fourth most appearances individual history behind. What's the obvious? What's the obvious? She doesn't have the most see straight fights. But she's tied for fourth. Most. In do who's WHO's behind? No. We'll take a gas. Rose No! Joanna yes. So. Carla has twelve. This'll be your thirteen, so she's GonNa Tie Yohanan at thirteen. Fourteen you won't guests, but I'll give you two guesses. Three guesses fourteen won't guess. The one that's competed fourteen times I won't guess it. While you know. Man. I don't know who just pick a straightaway name. Just tell me random Marcos. Do you know what I was GonNa say that. I thought about that. Yeah, I mean only because I. Remember one Talia these just throw something just so we can play around here. Dino, who fifteen is this one? You should get because this is kind of been the theme. No I really don't Angela Hill. She's always fighting. So there. You Go That's those are the fun facts. He throws out Esparza seven victories in the U. of C. Straightaway Competition are tied for second most individual history behind young Jj. So those are victories. Esparza has earned six of seven victories by decision. Esparza has completed at least one down against ten of her eleven year of C opponents. And it's useful, because we always talk about what makes Esparza tough is she's got a lot of heart and it all starts from a wrestling background. She wrestled in college and in high school. She's always gritty. She's developed a little bit of a striking game. But look at this Esparza thirty four take downs landed in the AFC strike. Competition are tied with a certain lady for most individual history. WHO WOULD YOU GUESS? Is that lady? I duNno cloudy W. Yeah, All right So! Check out that article. It's pretty cool. Think, you'll. It'll really really brush you up going into some of these events that we have. This'll be the last one on Yards Island Aka fight island. Four fights in fifteen days, and then they're back in Vegas although don't hold your breath i. don't know the pandemic is doing a number on our state. Right let's get Danny Segarra. Talk a little bit about optime, and then we'll talk a little bit about Robert. Whitaker and All right. A little break from talking about Saturday's Card and bring in our colleague. Danny, SA- Guru, who again we'll be launching AB. Limos. MMA this Monday July twenty seventh. It's going to drop in the morning. He'll fill you in on all the details here. He is Daddy's girl. What's up Danny? Things are having any back on i. feel feel right at home. I feel like I'm a now. Exactly yeah, not man's been great. You know this is the way it should be. There should be a proper buildup. We've been talking about this for two three weeks now. doing a couple of libraries as well when we couldn't get a hold of you and or or lying it up, but having you on the show is always best, so the fans can. The listeners of anime junkie radio can familiar. Your voice in your takes and. May I just know it's going to be a success. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah! I'm really excited for it. Dropped this. Monday July twenty seven so I'm pretty stoked for it, and and just to talk to to talk to you guys again. It's always a pleasure coming on the show. Thank you, and of course today you have a little bit more on dates to fill us in on, so you're telling us. It's going to be an early morning. Drop on the website on MMA junkie. This Monday and you also have a guest to announce. Yes, so Yeah, it's GonNa? Be On, Monday. It's GonNa drop at nine. Am Eastern, so expect that on your favorite podcasting platform is going to be up on on all the platforms so whatever you got, it's GonNa be up there, and the first guest will be you Daniel Donna and she was today and in in some big news. Are you see her match up with hauling home was postponed. It's no longer the main event on the August first first card of you see on ESPN plus thirty one. you know. She tested positive for covert nineteen, so you know. She was forced to withdraw and they're gonNA postponed about to a later date. So I'm GonNa talk to her about that about you know the crazy week. That's that's that's that she's had obviously tested positive and missing out on this huge fight. Because you know a lot of people have their eyes on this about because it could potentially be a title eliminator for the go amended newness so so yeah lots of talk to her. You know I it changed a little bit, and now you know we don't have actual fighter in her hands, but during the a lot of disposable. Yeah, no doubt I mean. Basically. There was a clear pathway because I would say that her oppositions forgetting shot versus a man of Nunez word, Juliana. Who was obviously has built a nice record in the U. of C. because she became a mother and took some time off. She just hasn't been fighting. You know and then Aspen Ladd who Ligaments in his on the men so yeah, a win over Holly Home I think it would have been to deny her so yeah, it'll be interesting to hear the interview and see if she got a serious bout of covid nineteen, or if she's already overcoming it, and maybe she can even start training sooner rather than later so that this fight can be. re booked at some point. or or do you guys know that somebody? Step in for her or her and holly are offering at this moment right i. think it's going to be revoked. Yeah and so. We book. Even the go ahead any. Yeah they're going to get re booked and now the new event for that card. Is there versus Edmund Shabazz so. Excited well as good middleweight bout. looks like the US. Really wants to keep that whole. Whom versus he didn't have done a fight in. Looking to revoke it and I and I have heard previously. You know way back when they had tried to book. About at some different times so really want this to happen. Well yeah, I'd like. I said it'll be interesting to see what her how she's dealing with Corona Virus Lyman good if he has recall got it and has already fought since he got it and he actually didn't fight bad I mean he lost his fight, but I didn't see a terrible performance out there. So hopefully Irene Aldana doesn't have You know some of the worst symptoms in the worst bow, but we'll find out on Monday. When I've limbaugh semi drops here on enemy, John a weekly Spanish podcast hosted by our colleague. Danny Sequeira and we're very much looking forward to it. as far as Irene Donna. I know you got it already under control. Danny I'm sure you already got your questions lined up, but hopefully I'd like to hear Like maybe of a follow up in general. I've been following the corona virus. In the way it's attack. The world and I've seen those numbers in Mexico. I seen them when they were starting to simmer, and I seen them when they were starting to blow up, which is basically now. and. They. Unfortunately had a president similar to ours similar to the Brazilian one where it was. Just I don't want to see it Denier, but just somebody who I don't think of it as much importance as some of the other world leaders and I wonder if she'll share any thoughts on If. They decide coming or or how that countries dealing with goes on I, have relatives in Mexico and the couple times leave. Shots what's at back and forth you know man. They're telling us. It's it's pretty. Pretty deadly down there. You know with with everything going on and I even talked with Brandon Marino wants as well a few months ago and he was telling us the same thing, so it'll be interesting to hear. That interview. Yeah. Very much looking to to that China and now we'll see what her perspective is because for the most part all these covert cases that we've been getting withdraws and and this, and that really gone down either in the US and in some Brazilians as well have about audited, but I I've yet to to hear that a Mexican fighter has has tested positive on each side of Eden and diner. Danny this might seem like an odd question. Seeing as Spanish is actually your first language, but do you think it's going to be weird at all? Going through an interview process like that in Spanish like? Is it something that you've had to Kinda? Almost practice on people. Will it be like a little strange? Just switching things over like that? That's a really interesting question. I think. I think when it comes down to the interview. It's not GonNa be strange, because normally for the written articles that I do for I made Junkie Dot Com I already interview a lot of guys. In Spanish things, it's also their first language, and they feel more comfortable speaking in Spanish or a lot of them. Sometimes they just don't know English that well where it also so the interview process I'm already kind of used to doing it in in Spanish, but however you guys know. There's a big difference interviewing for written story where you got more time. You're a little bit more laid back, right? As opposed to interviewing four, I am not sure show whether it's video or audio. So so that's GonNa change a little bit, but I I'm pretty comfortable with the interview. I think what's going to be interesting. It's it's more like the analysis that I'm going to bring as far as recapping van and talking about the main news, and all that because that really have mostly just done in English throughout my entire career, not really Spanish here and there done. I've done some things in Spanish but but not as much as English to that that I think that's GonNa be the strangest part for me, but you. It's a work in progress, so I'm looking forward to it and. It! It's GonNa. Be Fun So Danny listen before we let you go me. Let's get your thoughts on the big fight. This weekend Robert Whitaker. Against Darren till that's the headline belt for the last event on this run at five island. In, Abu, Dhabi. We're hearing. They're going to go back, but for now. This is the last of the four events in fifteen days. This is at Midway. Darren till fought well welterweight for many years moved up had a great debut versus Kelvin Lem, and this guy man. He's already thinking he's already saying look. If I be whitaker I want a shot at the title winner of course was the previous champion, he lost his title to Israel out of Sonya, and he wants to get another crack at him, or whoever's the champ then because? since then Israel sign is already been booked to fight another opponent, and that's Paulo Kosta and then toss in that. Ed mentioned as Ian and Derek. Brunson fight that. You mentioned earlier. Of course. We know you're a hall and your y'All Romero. Mix It up soon. This divisions cracking. You know so tell me what you think about this fight, and how important it is in the scheme, the title scheme. Yeah I'm super super excited about this I. Think the best fight in the most high-profile fight that's been booked for the fire. Island series outside of the title fights so as far as all the non title bouts I think this is the best booking that that they put together You could maybe make a case for you know. Edgar verses knows but know we. Got Postponed. So you know that's that's no longer part of the. Series so I would say this is this is it is the biggest fight outside all the all the title flights and as far as the implications that it has a hundred thousand pounds I think there's huge it is a little bit weird because you know rubber, whitaker's coming off a lot of the former champion, but he's coming off a defeat, and then you've got Darren. Until was a great fighter. WHO's obviously a big name? but Also had a bit of a skit in mid, his Middle Midway debut and had a lot of success, so he's really just. One win out by one hundred and eighty five pounds. It's kind of a weird about him that since that. Is You actually. Sit Down and look at the stats I. IT feels like both guys might be another fight away from from a title fight if victorious, but at the same time you just read it down until Roger. Whittaker and immediately you just think of big names. You just think of title contention, so it's Kinda hard to gauge exactly where it's at, but again like you said given the fact that they're both big names and one. The former champion I really do think an impressive win could punch them the next. Nick title shot, and also we. We gotTA keep in mind that there until brought a pretty good point. You know so far. We got cost versus on Sonya book, but normally just in regular may which is crazy, crazy sport. We see spikes fall apart all the time. and then topping a blueprint endemic. You just don't know what you're going to get a month from now so there until said anybody win on a stay ready I'm gonNA. Stay ready because there could be a good chance that I I might sliding not so as far as the timing also gotTa talk about that. It's perfect for both because the winner here could have a turnaround and September, it seems very possible special. They don't take a really got beating or some damage during the fight, whereas these other matchups Brunson Edmund Shabazz were though right hall enjoyed them. Those are further down the line so closer to that September they where the middleweight title supposed to go down, so I think timing wise is super important for these two guys, and also again they're big names, and they're pressing the hundred and forty, five hundred and eighty pound division also just gets them a lot of territory in in in in claiming that title shot so I. Think the winner here could be in a very good spot at. Getting the next shot at the belt Fisher. Danny you've been around the game for awhile. What do you say to people who are talking about? Darren till. kind of OV- not looking. Overlooking his opponent, but maybe looking past them a little bit, you know, bring up names like Israel to Sonya even Mike, Perry who not even really available. Do you feel like? He's one hundred percent dialed in for this fight, or is there a little piece of him? That's kind of looking at the future. You know what ask the question I've been. I've been sort of following what she's been saying. The media is this and that and it then we seem to you know with all these people and storylines with all the with all these people, but his opponent rubber whitaker so pardon me does think like there could be that element, but let's not forget it in seventy pounds. His his lots run. He had a pretty ugly stint there with obviously the loss of time would be. That was pretty quick environment the and then they lost to. Two or him? How's it all that that didn't look too pretty either that knockout so You Know He. He learned a lot from that and I believe him I believe you realize like look, obviously have something going here as far as my persona. My skill set I, bring in a lot and I can't just you know. Let them go to waste by not showing by being distracted, so I think he. He's one hundred percent than for this fight but the question is. WILL THAT BE ENOUGH? For Robert Whitaker because. Guys gained. That guy's a former champion. The I think he's still one of the best fighters in the world today. I'll say this guy's. This is no disrespect to all of the English fighters that we've seen all the UK based fighters. Tell me! Hey, just Gimme. A Mount Rushmore of. English based fighters, and and if you don't WanNa really tailor it around world titles, or or that just. Fighters that you got excited about seeing well, mind would probably be. Biz being. Lee Murray! Paul Daley. Guys see kind of where I'm headed with this. Like all those guys just love to talk shit, all those guys like they basically like throwing out other apples games and he had to have a little bit of that British Swag and so I think that's what till's do any. Till's just following a little bit of the. Of that recipe you know like Hey, I know I know I got in front of me on Saturday. I'm going to compete my best against them, but look. I'm also forecasting the future and. And an MA. We all know we're GONNA. Fight each other. It's not like boxing boxing. It's like if you put a microphone in front of Tyson Fury. He'll talk to you about. Andy Rees Anthony Joshua deontay wilder, and then after that I mean maybe Joseph Part. He only really has the name two or three guys until WHO's dabbled in a couple of weight classes. I think he knows he can throw some names out there. You know what I mean. I think that's what he's doing. That's why I've noticed. He's having a lot of fun on social media as well I think the focus is going to be there. The only thing is not to live with is if he loses people are GonNa go up, you see what you did there. You were thinking too much about whitaker and you got bit in the ass, and but I think he's a big boy I think he can take it, and he can live with that and I think those trash talkers, no it and they can live with it, but the payoff is tremendous. If you win, and if you, if you come close to your prediction or anything like that boy man that they just kinda shoot you up that flight pool. You know what I mean in in terms of. You becoming An asset to the company, and and one of the favorite fighters that people will pay to see so I can appreciate Darren till doing what he's doing. I think he's The British guys just like I say they're very colorful. They're very entertaining And you know for the most part usually they back it up very well but I don't know. Did you guys like my British MMA? Mount Rushmore their daily Lee. Murray, Michael Spring, and maybe there until after Dan Hardy maybe would get A. Viper titled My. He might get for a vote as well but he's kind of more of a nice guy. You know what I mean and now. Now, he's a He works for the company, but how about you guys? I think it's pretty. Pretty. But. But I always say this I think that Dan Hardy wants grid but I. Think He's a nice guy now but I don't when he was coming up before the gist piece. Fight right the read more. The things on the Mouth Guard He was just machi crazy. You know getting crazy knockouts and putting people away and he was not to talk. Smack in to do that, but. At some point I guess he got older and sort of and dial down a little bit, but I think he's up there as well as far as the trash and all that for sure. Yeah, that'd be a good one You know maybe more geographical Mount Rushmore. 'cause I'm tired of hearing the same. Anderson GSP FADE or Heus. You know we we start doing geographical, even if it's just for fun with the Work Colleagues on slack or something, but anyway hey, Danny. Thanks for popping on with us. Here can't wait for the debut of Lemos me on Saturday on Monday, the twenty seventh Saturday's fight I was just GonNa, tell you enjoy the fights on Saturday in I'm sure we'll be in contact throughout the week, but but but thanks again for joining us here. Know thank you for having me always an honor to to be on an junkie radio, and yes, looking forward to alamosa dropping on Monday. It'd be a fun episode and Yeah can't wait. I've been I've been super excited for the last few weeks, so looking forward to a very much and again. Thank you guys for having me always always an honor to be under all right, thank you. Well that was interesting, so we now know that on the twenty seventh at nine am eastern six. Pacific it'll be Dany. Secure talking to Irene Donna. That'll be his debut guests although it won't be about the upcoming fight Rizzoli home because. As he was telling us there, and as we read on Junkie, she got the Covid so weird, because obviously Danny has known that this is going to be as guest is just a matter of locking her in and making sure everything's. GonNa go well since the announcement of the show. And and This was kind of one of those reasons right. It sucks. That sucks this fight off because this was going to be a fun fight in. It has major implications in that division, so this is. I'm glad that it's at least as being postponed, and it's not an injury like you mentioned with spars in Marina Yeah, Look I. Think you know like like we told them see can find out if she had a one of those horrible bouts like Chris. CUOMO FROM CNN or if it was. You know a walk in the park I. got a buddy named Boyd his kid. By Day three was feeling great thing. Brandon shop went for a bike ride though he caught some flak for that. Because remember when you get it, you suppose quarantine. And then get cleared again. Somebody who told us that they're waiting for test. To get cle- rate. That's right, right from, San Antonio yesterday on our sports caster broadcast told us that anyway there. You have it Danny. SEGARRA follow him on twitter instagram at Danny Sikora TV. he's pumped up for sure so are we for abnormal? Somme dropping on Monday, the twenty seventh. Can't say enough about that. and. As always you WANNA. Keep it locked on enemy junkie here. Because we got your. You know all the coverage there for not just. You see on ESPN. Fourteen got like I said. Tighten and elevate inaction Titan tonight elephant tomorrow Bella Tor also to forty two's. Is. The fight number series on. Their back tomorrow as well on Friday circles. Thursday Friday Friday Saturday to events on Friday. That's LFA. and. Bell Tower. And don't forget to catches on Sports Caster on Wednesdays. Noon eastern nine am Pacific. We do it for an hour and we have the video format there. Will we bring in some guests and you know? 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You can see basically all of the labels on all the episodes we've done, so you can go straight to the Jon Anik one straight to the Calvin cater straight to the big John, McCarthy. We've had some pretty good guess there, so you can go check that out or maybe even just see what our watch alongs are all about priority one coming up here in about. Three weeks with the. St Male CH and Daniel Coronary. That's what I was GONNA say was. which is the one champion goes? That has three losses. And then after that, John Only has one that's technical by the way Oh. You're talking about all the. Impressive champions. We have izzy. Zero losses WHO's one loss could be zero Habib Zero. Falkowski one. Peter Yang One. Way You. Just lists the guys on the. Way Lease. undefeated or she had one life thought she was undefeated. We'll see games it has we have to. There's as much because coach before losses. But we throw it in the twice, and then Valentine has got three losses and then way I think he might have one loss or no losses I. Don't know, but this one was a collective list of men so after Yang, one loss and then Davidson one loss, so if anything coach might be looking at that going Oh man. I fuck things up like mom. Technically, our first fight was really way leasing. Okay. I didn't know that, so how many she peeled off in a row. Has Peeled off twenty one hand anyone straight. That's like I think. CYBORG lost I fight and I think Hanan barral. Ossis I fight, and then hennion round made it to like thirty three and one. It's even say much just just says loss. In two thousand and thirteen. That's a lot of fights since and since then. Yeah, but anyway we look at that. It's not a poster, but it's just like A. What do you call it? A photoshop me not mean but just a pick, and he's got the champions, and that three so not glaring, but it just stands out. You know what I mean like a few years ago Robbie lawler was a champion. I think it was twenty four and ten at the time. So. Anybody falls a sport. We'll go. He lost ten time that he had become a champion in boxing. which is what we're used to. You. Don't really get title shots when you have like two or three losses, not not initially. That's what makes boxing. You know you're like. They're just protected on because they usually fight twenty five tomato cans, and then five regular fighters, and then they're thirty, you know and everyone promotes the hell out of them, and if they lose, it's no big deal because he lost to someone who's thirty. Thirty, no, so now one guy is thirty one and the other one's thirty and one no big deal, or whatever you, when you see those tens or eights or whatever you you Kinda, get you know other types of labels. Hell I think Koby Covington was calling George journeymen, but Ma's different man, and made the best the best all time and George been around for seventeen eighteen years. but he deserved his title shot. You know what I mean so amaze unique, and and so that that's what makes that that that pick unique is. They are all either undefeated or one loss. To just got that three next to. If it was, you'd have the to next to them but but it's. It's right now anyway. I don't know maybe I got more than I should have. We're going to get on Outta here. Folks enjoy the weekend. Keep it locked M E junkie. throughout the week and don't forget to be safe and sane and always be a champion.

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Ep. 2,861: Javier Mendez and Javier Vazquez

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Ep. 2,861: Javier Mendez and Javier Vazquez

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So I wanted to say it that way, but it is three or four four. And then there's another four but goofed up by throw on the three fours in there. But it's three four four four eight ninety three. All right. So last night was the the bigger card. No disrespect. But we all know that the is the big player in our sport. They don't have all the big fighters. They don't have all the best fighters there most of them. So we're going to go that way for right now. But we will definitely be touching on belt or because they had a great weekend. Despite the fact that the tripped out of the gate a little bit on Friday night with their main event, but we'll get to that. So on Sunday night in Phoenix. Arizona Francis in gone, who defeated Cain Velasquez came. Alaska's has lived in northern California believe it's Gilroy it'd be more exact for like the past ten years, but he. Grew up in Arizona. He went to college state and wrestle there. So he literally was coming home. And this was after a two and a half year layoff. I mean, the stage was set for him to come back in his home state. Hometown close enough wherever wherever in Arizona. He's from. I'm sure Phoenix is a is a major hub in close enough. And he got dispatched guys in twenty six seconds. I mean, it was quick. But that's how sometimes fights can go in the heavyweight division, especially when they involve a gentleman by the name of Francis in gone, who with the exception of a couple of fights in two thousand eighteen dot that's been his recipe. Here's just massive. I mean, did you see him towards the end every time they faced off. And then when the fights started it just looked like two different to classes apart. You know, what I mean, he had a cool demeanor that I haven't seen before that. I wasn't expecting on this. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like he knew granted. He's gotta go in there thinking, of course, he's going to win. Yeah. And he just had this smirk to him that he just knew exactly what was going to happen that night. Yeah. Really strange. And so think about the an the questions he's answered in his last two fights Curtis blades. Wrestled in college came. We'll ask. His wrestled as well. So they both left wrestled at high levels. And those are just to players are fighters you'd rather avoid if you're a heavyweight, and and you don't come from a wrestling background, you you just kind of you can get grinded out pretty pretty ugly. You know, what I mean in Franson gone has gotten past both so a credit to him because about this time last year. He was coming off the MIO Cheech fight where everybody fell off the bandwagon. He was just a sniper going into the meal which fight, and I think a lot of us thought this might be the next guy and then MIO which had a beautiful game plan. He mixed up striking and wrestling because he also wrestled and defeated Francis and gone, and of course, being gone. His achilles heels were shown cardio defensive wrestling grappling everything then he has the. The dud against Derrick Lewis and anybody that was left on the on the bandwagon. And it was just a couple. And then the turn it around and beat blades and beat Velazquez. This guy had a huge huge night goes in many ways, some that will touch on now and some that will touch on in our daily debate and some that will touch on throughout the show, but still I want to applaud Francis in going because that's the way you do it. My man, you know, he didn't take off. Three years or soul. I at least I didn't see him. He just made a judgment. He moved back with his normal team back to France. And he is getting it done, man. I mean came Alaska's is one of the toughest outs in all of mixed. Martial arts barn on like any division. Now. One thing that he'd benefited on was that he got him off two and a half years. And I don't care if you're the hardest worker and I don't care what dominant crews says. That can't be good to have a layoff that long. But these great fighters some of them will win and the ones that went will say that ring rust that don't exist. Bullshit it exists. Some just shake it off in around some do it in the first minute. But it's there enough high-level fighters way more high level fighters have said that it does exist in exists in other sports. So if you were one of the ones that was able to get by then there's nothing we can say to you. You ain't gonna convinced me. Do you feel like that was a factor though? And that fight it all happened so quick that. No. But you know, those first couple of kicks came through. I mean, they didn't look like they were smooth or anything like that, you know, like against traumas Browne. He looked like a really smooth kickboxer. But in this fight he was kind of like, stumbling and missing and everything will soul wild that. Okay. You know, like it really didn't matter because at that point. He hasn't been hit yet. But then close quarters firefight. And next thing, you know. The fights done. I think that was a big factor in that fight those right away the kicks, you could just tell he was throwing kind of office back leg just really kind of leaning trying to get out of that distance. And the thing about Cain Velasquez is. I think he's he's you're right. He's a monster. Nobody wants to see Cain Velasquez. Okay. But him kind of doing that early on. I think may have given Francis. A little bit of confidence because he sees that. And he's thinking there's a man that's worried about getting hit by me. And the one thing that came lasco's has shown is any type of fear whatsoever. Right. And so I think maybe that gave him a little bit of confidence. Like, hey, man. I'm a young fighter. But this is just as scared as I am. And I assume as he was doing us thinking, oh, man. This might not be his night because that's one of the things that Cain brings to the table. One of his biggest biggest weapons just that intimidation factor of always coming forward. No matter what sucks the way the fight. It ended man. But how do you take that away from Francis and was much as you try and avoid it? We have to Monday Monday, Monday morning quarterback people here on the show because. We're we're very familiar with their skill sets. We know what they work on. We know what their strengths are. But still a guy off a two and a half year layoff. I thought I was going to see more of I didn't see those first couple of kicks. And I thought I was going to see it's like semi media wrestling, you know, what I mean? And granted this was only twenty six seconds. So it's not like it wasn't. It's like he waited till the second or the third minute. But just everything that he did. I don't know was an opening that France didn't capitalize on. But regardless to be fair. He did go in for a takedown even that wasn't like the cleanest take down, and I have to give in Ghana credit because he stopped it. And boom, he hit him a little uppercut that a lot of people a lot of people that I talked to fans media relatives friends they hadn't caught even after the replace because a lot of people get so caught up in the high fives. And I I've been holding the leak or whatever where I gotta go. Beat the traffic that they don't see some of these replays. And a lot of people feel like that that the the knee injury occurred prior to now unless there's something that happened in Cain explained it one way in the press conference and explain it another way in the post fight in the post fight. He led us to believe that something tweaked prior to that exchange, then he while you didn't say he got caught. But then he got caught we all know that. And then you could see the awkward fall, actually, both knees. Bent back, but one in particular, the left one look bad Jason hers new, I think that contact had been made what he also could hear came molasses screaming, and so he stopped it and gone who start a port on. But in the post fight he didn't really when asked and I've Jon Morgan started things off he didn't seem to allude to the fact that that the uppercut was part of what played into then he got hit. And then the body just kinda like gave out when it did. And that's when he went down awkwardly on the knee. Now, I will say this had not hurt his knee. I think it was one of those where remember Luca when he got hit earlier in the in by Barberini Barberini kind of pounce on him. And all sudden, he got his back taking like I think Velazquez what it came out of it pretty quick. It was just a quick flash. Knock knock down, but referee also wouldn't have jumped in quickly though, had he not seen the correct. Yeah. Because I'm sure it was loud Phoenix came strong, by the way. And we were there a few weeks ago for Royal rumble. You guys have amazing fans combat source minutes. But anyway, it was so loud that I I'm sure you know, you could tell them the replays yelling Herzog's there. And but but yeah, I mean, I think hers regardless when he saw that he knew he needed to stop it. And it Kane has told them it was the correct stoppage. So we're good. There were clear that we're not looking at any controversies. Anyway, this fight was it it can be. So you know, the. Alternate fighting championship is the real as real as it gets and. By that a family myself who grew up wondering, I wonder who would man the wrestler of the, you know, whatever this those type of fights kinda can sometimes answer it and a lot of people don't come from the mixed. Martial arts aspect to it all where a certain amount of time or rounds or anything positioning has to play out a fight a fight, man. And some people just think of a fight is like what they see at the ball game or on the streets who are on the playgrounds or whatever. And that's what this one was a knockdown. And that was it and the one guy got injured, and they said, he's good. He's done. He's done. That's it YouTube. You know what I mean? And that's it. But it all happened fast. And what sucks for Kane is. This is the second time debuted on a major network and it all ended quickly. So this was remember what I was saying early on ASU fans homestay guy after two and a half year layoff against the guy who is it from wrestling background who you should have that resting advantage. Or you can just go in there and grind them out. It was set up perfectly, and it now all of a sudden he may be looking at an injury people are asking him if he might retire. He's definitely out of contender talk and with DC extending his self imposed retirement age, at least that won't be kind of a worry. But it looked like it was going to be a clear passing of the baton from DC back to came Alaska's. But now it isn't. Yeah. They are ever to go to ABC or Showtime or HBO if I were candidate leave me the hell off that girl. Fight card. Right. I to be a best either. Have you? Send me the Cuban anything. But I want to go back to something. I'm going to go back and watch it again. But I coulda sworn. I'm more of the guy that I felt like the shot is what put him down. It is does him injuring his knee. But I thought it would made him fall awkwardly yet to hurt his knee. But I thought I remembered as I was list watching it. I thought either Dominic or Antic did say like his knee buckle that you can kind of hear it in the background before he went down. So I don't know if there were two separate if at buckled. He got hit. And then he went down and fell awkwardly or what? Because when are we really known Cain Velasquez to be a liar? Right. I mean, he's pretty straightforward. So I do want to go back and watch that because I could when when people were saying that I was like come on guys. You got hit. He fell back. It was very obvious. I did the mean buckle before seeing the replay. Then little uppercut. It wasn't like like a ball bowl and Mike Tyson wasn't one of those. I'm just a quick book. That was it. You know what? I mean, he just caught him. But Francis packs a punch lot of power, but you could see. Canes body, just like a release. And that's the flash knockout is we falls down awkwardly hurts the knee and. But I believe they were saying it prior to even them seeing that that that punch. So now what we have this is one of those situations where and this is why the you have C is who they are. No matter. What happens? They're going to win. Right. Ain't Velasco's wins that fight man. He's back right market. The Mexican American market. Yeah. At you know, what I mean, you're right. But he didn't. So now, you're left with Angang new which is just a highlight reel. All you. Gotta do is flat Africa a picture or you gotta see this dude fried. Exactly. But the one thing that people didn't talk too much about it can't lose. I'm telling you one of their shipments gets through whether it's the tunnels the submarines Coyote, whatever it, it's just it's the business model is awesome. Well, now, you have a guy and Daniel cormier for the longest time we kind of had three options for him. Right. Rock listener, John Jones, steeping MIO Cheech Francis. Gone who kind of slips in there. A because he's just a devastating heavyweight. But be you have that avenge my friends loss angle. So now he's a player in that little sweepstakes. And I find that match up to be very interesting as good as Daniel cornmeal is. Francis in Ghana who is a monster. He's just so big, dude. But we said that about Derek Lewis, right and somehow DC close distance and was able to have his way with them. But when you look at legacy and overall, what Daniel corn means done. I think a victory over a guy like Franson Gano is going to weigh a lot. Well, I'm glad you brought that up because. Yes, DC and also big pretty Justin Willis think he's the one that initiated some chatter between them he wrote a matting another one that the hitless he's part of AK, and then DC was kind of fist bumping, you know, because you could tell those guys want to avenge their, homey. But here's something that DC. Here's here's what's funny. John Jones may have lost out on the fictitious three fights that DC might have left. We don't know if he's going to have one and bounce to three ten. We don't know. It depends on what we've all been playing around with those names that goes mentioned the two minutes ago. However. Right now Jones is still a big fight. But what d c is always wanted to do was kind of distance themselves from that and write his own script. Which is what we've been saying about Nate Diaz for a long time. Look man, you've been a bad ass fighter you and your brother like legends in the sport. And you guys are super popular, and you have legions of fans you one one, and if it ever happens great, but man break yourself away from that. Maybe you might. Write your own scripts, and you might be the pay per view star. Or at least one of them. Maybe not as big as McGregor. But still I think DC if he can get past Leser, MIO Cheech and gone. Oh, he might be the greatest heavyweight of all time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, those are monsters, but she's already beaten once, but if you were to beat him twice that would be pretty damn impressive. Because a lot of you were saying meal, which was the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time some were saying it was the greatest heavyweight of all time, but not as many. But for sure I think we're all agreeing that he may have been the greatest heavyweight you have see heavyweight of all time and now with came possibly on the shelf, where at least is kind of out of the picture and the respect that they have because they'll never fight each other. They'll always support each other. When you stand back and look at the record throw in that strikeforce grand prix a few years ago and some of the skins on his wall. And then all of a sudden, you're you're thinking, hey, wait a minute. You have a claim here. And if you can have that claim aside from being a champ champ, and the almost impeccable record that he has on paper that helps, you know, the the talk as well, here's what Brock Lessner brings to the table money. That's right. But he's also a former heavy it was a former he can do that. Yeah. It's nice when you're going through and. Trying to figure out who is the greatest of all time when you could start saying these are some of the guys I took out former champion helps right? But that's where it ends. What guys like steeping MIO church and Francis in garner brings the table is they still have time left in their career. So they're the gift that keeps on giving because once DC retires. They're going to keep fighting and their records are going to get better and better and who knows maybe they'll capture titles again. And that's only gonna help DC's legacy is going to grow while he's retired. Where Brock Leser doesn't do. If he loses to Daniel Cormie got imagine. That's it for him in the. And plus I've never really felt he's a guy that fell in love with the sport either. He realized that there's money here. Oh, I wanna title along the way. Great there's but mostly there's money here. And then afterwards, I just need to go off to my ranch. That's why I don't see much too many more wrestling matches left. It's not does that many and too many remain ones. But he's playing it perfect. Yeah. But those those two fighters they'll keep fighting after Daniel corneas retired and the more they win the better. Those victories are gonna look for him. Yeah. So my question to you goes is now how do you think things might play out? I think he's in it this far. I think he's going to wait out. The Brock listener angle. Yeah. By the way, Dana White's, helping with this puzzle. He did say when when it was brought up to him. Hey, could engulf who have jumped the queue and might be next. Nope. We already have DC's fight planned. Well, I don't think it's Jones because a Jones Smith in a few weeks be neither guys interested in the other. You know what I mean? And see I think just less hasn't gone away technically because DC's been injured so Leser can do Royal rumble wrestlemainia, and they can still get down in the summer. So I think that's what he's alluding. I think that's the Bill by Brock listener. If he gets past Brock Leser, then I think that's where it comes around. Like, I just don't see steep eighth sitting around that long. That's why he's going to have to match. Up with somebody. And I doubt they're going to give them Francis. Gone because they don't they want rather DC fight both of them. Right. So they'll figure, oh, maybe I don't know. I don't know. See I just I don't know DC's forty like we don't know he may be gone after this one. And that's it. I could see them possibly matching up in Ghana said in his funny because everybody's thinking me me me me me me me. Right. Then gone is thinking. Yeah, man. I wanna fight me otas. She says I want to get that one back, but I'm more concerned about the title. But if you tell him, hey, guess what you're not fighting for the title, then he might go. You know that meal chips fight. It seems may be applicable now. Now steep pay may not want that fight. But if he's told will you ain't getting the DC one either then he might have to play ball. But otherwise, there could still be some other considerations out there. But heavyweights pretty interesting here. It's unfortunate at so many of these cats are like forty plus marquan. I think he's gone anyway Verdun on suspension DC injured. But you know, I guess he's kind of been an active fighter Leser pops in and out. Barnett moved on. But I the way of you still there. I think he's a forty year old is well Mitchell is what ballot or he's forty man Caritas Tana thirty eight like, I know we have some young guns that are headed this way. But man, if we could just fab. Reverse time a little bit by like five years just have them all under one banner or just have them all active. It could really really reach some fun times that heavyweight. Yeah, heavyweight and I mean that that's what the world looks to the baddest man on the planet. Right. Yeah. All right. So in the coming event, Paul we're going to revisit a little bit more this talk, and it was a little longer than I had suspected. But just let me give you some results because we've got to take our first break Paul Felder did defeat James Vick unanimous decision there. That was a combing event. It was really really fun fight. It was a violent fight, and it sucks, man. We really really liked both guys and both guys had their moments. What Felder was the one awarded the decision? In fact, two judges called it thirty twenty seven Cinta Cavallo defeated corden Casey in the featured bout that's the third one from the top chrome Gracie defeated Alex Caceres made it look easy. It's always fun. Having a Gracie name in the UC the center Luc game, Brian Barberini. Already up for fight of the year thousand mazing and Andre feely defeated Myles jury. Now, I I think I'm just gonna go and say what the premiums were too because I don't want in any way discard algebra sterling Jimmy, Eric because those are high level ban only right there in sterling the win thirty twenty seven unanimous cross aboard I'm telling you that guy looked so good that I'm not even like thinking about this kid anymore as a contender. This guy's championship material. You know, I'm not saying it's going to be a world champion. But I think in the next two or three years he'll have his shots because he's that good. And now he's starting to distance of self. So sorta like Morris except mariah's kinda as the lead on sterling because sterling's last loss was tomorrow. He's got a race that somehow. Yeah. And we'll see if Rivera can dust themselves off he did at one time and came back in and really had a really nice fight against John Dodson. But now he's got to do it again. 'cause remember this was the guy that was like twenty and one for the longest time. Was the longest winning streaks. So he'll have to shake it off too, many Burmese defeated Benito Lopez Andrea Lee defeated Ashley Evan Smith, Nick Lance, defeated Scott Holtman in on ESPN. Plus, Luke Sanders defeated Hanan brow, and Emily whitmire defeated Alexander, Al boot. All right. We are going to take a break. You're listening to EMI junkie radio on fight nation channel ninety three. We want to take your calls. Eight seven seven fight nation. Sorry. Fight ninety three eight seven seven five ninety three or eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three don't touch that. Dial Alexa, play fight nation on Sirius XM nation on Sirius XM child for pound one of the fighters on this planet. Lots of ways to hear Sirius XM at home including on devices with Amazon. Alexa. Learn more at Sirius XM dot com slash Alexa. Injuries. Forced them to retire undefeated from m a with a record of. Oh, and oh, they are gorgeous Jordan goes, and this is MMA junkie radio and hoop stirs. Gotta check out NBA radio, man. It's awesome. NBA all star weekend is over but you can still enjoy all the exciting moments from NBA radio's coverage. It was li- which came from Charlotte. Listen to all the shows and interviews with the likes of Paul George Donovan Mitchell. Dwayne Wade anytime on three success fabulous app that we have that. Also houses you ever made Trump t- radio show Marshall free HD quality goes did you watch the dunk contest? By the way. You mean the game? Well that too. Yeah. Now, I didn't catch the dunk contest. Okay. It's not a bad investment of five six minutes of your life. Yeah. 'cause there's all this point though, there's a couple of compilations that just go boom, dunk dunk dunk dunk by you know, the you're not waiting around for them to dribble it out or nothing like that. Yeah. You're gonna see some repeats some of these kids. Are they got Hoff's men the the free throw line which was at Jordan and Dr J for a long time. And you know, maybe every five seven years somebody would attempt it. It just seems like that's pretty easy. The windmill dunks Dominique put on the map, you know, twenty thirty years ago same thing, but you got guys that can do like the windmill dunk. And then now do the Jordan whereas Jordan did this Dominique did this others. Did that is thinking? Guys, thinking going to say, I can do them all you know, or whatever. But don't they have guys feeding them now? Like, I don't think they used to do that back in the day, right? The do. But still what they're doing is. Pretty amazing. I I mean, I don't watch it. I don't catch it every year. And frankly, if it slips by me, I'm not losing sleep. But I happen to watch it. And I was like, whoa. Okay. Hold on a second. I only caught like a couple of them got my curiosity. But there was some crazy donkey the three point shootout that was. Yeah. That was money too. Because the better players were actually the better three point shooters. So it was great to see, you know, those those big names go at it to slam dunk contest. Like he'd get your deep Brown's here and there right where you would see him for the rest of the season. Right. Yeah. Fun, though, go back, and like it's only LeBron's battling harden or nothing like that. But anyway. All right. We are going to take some calls. Eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven hundred ninety three. I did want to ask goes though, going into the break. I threw out some of the results of those other fights was there anything you kind of waiting to talk about want wanna get off your chest before we jump on these calls. I think some of those fights are what helped make the weekend. This weekend was very strange for me. I don't know if you guys all feel the same way. But first of all we had three cards that ended kind of strangely the main event, right? You go to Invicta that one ended in way, Bella, Tori, ended and not way. And not that the ending of the UFC fight was odd. But quick it was quick. And there was an like don't know. I don't know the kind of left you wanting a little bit more and some of these undercard fights, I think are wet made sitting down and spending the whole day watching fights worth those guys are the ones I even Lenz that fight with Holzmann thousand good fight. It had moments where it slowdown because of Lenz knowing that he just couldn't sit there and throw hands with Holtman. And he was just using creative creative and crafty ways to get the fight on down by kicking his leg out. You know, what I mean certain little trips that he had I could see him being a crafty veteran finding a way to beat the young buck. So you know that that fight. Well, you know, what my lying also, I guess some of my parleys is what makes these fights so exciting. It could be that. There are people that without the bet. They're just maybe not the most exciting fights. But still I'm telling you bet a lot. I know it's vice but so's drinking you bastards. So get off my back. But it sure can make it fun. I think what it was there weren't very many fights. Where you didn't know who won at the end of the round where you like fighter air fighter. Be like you kind of knew who won. Now granted it could be one guy wins one round guy wins the next and the other guy wins last. But I think we lacked that a little bit in the whole weekend. Was there weren't that many where we were like holy crap. Who won that round? Like, it was just kind of decisive every round. I was weird jury fight was exciting. I was the Luquet Barberini was among was crazy. Like I for one. I knew that that third round mattered. But I had a feeling Barberini was possibly on his way to to just winning the fight and then Lukic comes out of nowhere. But either way still wanted both guys that take abou- but circling back to feeling he wants stone cold. What's going on there? You know, there's been a big week on our channel was stone cold for those that don't know he was on ever may tonight this past Wednesday for half an hour. I mean, talking about anything and everything and lots of lots of 'em may talk. They're not just from a guy who okay, there's a fight from from time to time. Don't call definitely isn't MMA fan catches ever make tonight also on the series, six map, HD quality and commercial free. But yeah, apparently feely wants. Yeah. That is weird. How that cut? Josh. No cut. But I did it. I did enjoy. I would actually like to see that. I I'm curious although is the call. Yeah. You're right. It wasn't a cut. I'm sorry. But that'd be that'd be fascinating. I what when you see something like that. It gets knuckleheads. Like me talking about it. You know what I mean? So it it may have sounded silly. And it probably is silly. But still when you have a great fight like feely, dude, which was tactical. I I think you can do a call out of still hope he'll be on tomorrow show. So we can ask them tomorrow. Yeah. For sure. All right. Let's go to the phone lines. Here Oreo from Canada is going to lead things off. If you wanna a follow. It's eight seven seven fight ninety three eight seven seven three four four four eight nine three. Go ahead. Josh who put in an Oriole, please. Man, how you doing? Longterm for I realize that. Guys got a a nice now, which is amazing. I can catch you. I don't have to route working or more. You know? Okay. How's the best part of his calls on a little bit? How small you would whisper people in the background, right? I just had one question about the fight. And then if you could just get have your Mendez to answer your question as well. Just wondering last year, I remember we were talking about benefits and gone hill. And how he could be a big star. Now was awesome. God if he could take the UFC to Africa for their be Cameroon. And I remember goes with you're saying, it'd be too unsafe. Right. Huge fan. Ran do you think they could drag the US affirm that you think you could drag him to era and headlining show and a lot of ours. I noticed like still not even showing there. Yeah. Yeah. You still can't put their foot down against them. But I'm hearing strides have been made. And there's a lot of great French fighters. And there's a lot of great French athletes. So I anticipate France being a contributor to MMA going forward with even more phenomenal efforts. Now granted this about two years ago that I asked somebody at the UFC this question. About africa. And yeah, they just kind of gave me a look like that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. So here's what I heard if anything it's going to be South Africa. And but as far as like Cameroon were in gone news from or Nigeria where whose wounds from while, I don't believe we're ready for that. But once you have a show in a certain part of the world it can then take off. You know what I mean? And so South Africa has already had let me see I think have this right? They're called EFA. For a while. Yeah. These to be on fight. Now TV think super didn't super fight league. Go there once they may have they may have. But that's what can get the ball rolling. You know? But I I would say that's that's a country that's hosted if I'm not mistaken a World Cup. And can't remember if they've done an Olympics or not. But so I I could see him starting things off their Egypt Morocco. Also, you know, have hosted big soccer tournaments. So we'll see. But, but I anticipate more and more town coming from that continent. Okay. Cool. And if you could just remember, I have your Menderes, he doesn't have just gourmet and canines. Have you Jim? I think Justin Lewis is coming up 'cause he you know, get to three shots at Francis. Before you know, everything's off. I just want. If you could ask them that. If you remember, thanks guys. Enjoy all your stuff. Thank you. I'm not mistaken. I think Mendez doesn't work with Willis. Right. I don't know. But we'll ask them. But we'll ask them things always changing around, and he is part of AK. So who knows? Coaches in fighters switch off from time to time. Don't like a few fights ago. You wouldn't have seen Eric Niksic in Kevin lease corner. But now he's he's been in the last two so yeah, it's definitely worth asking him that question. All right. Paul Felder in James Vick. I man that was a great fight. And vic. Had some moments there where? I thought he was doing what a guy that six three needs to do to not just Paul elder. But everyone. In the division. That's put them at the end of his range. Whether it was a kick straight up, the gut, you know to a solar pikes or right up to his chin, the jab, but what wound up I think being big downfall was Felder got the cath kicks in. And that's low down James Vick big time. Now, that's not saying that it felt it doesn't do it. That's the only way to win because he was hitting them with plenty of punches and spinning back fists so puff elders dangerous from many ways. But I I believe that was one of the main points of the fight was how much that hobby will James Vick stopped them from throwing combinations to. Yeah. And it was in his head every time they went to the corner, and they ask Trevor Wittman what did he like and didn't like it? But what the corners were saying. He was reiterating to us that James Zik was passing that on the Loyd over loader was shutting them shutting them down saying. I don't care you gotta fight. So you know, obviously this. Be tough for Vic two in a row. But he even though his age isn't that of like a young early twenty year old he still young in the sport? So therefore, I believe he has time to figure this out. But for Paul Felder, I mean, this guy's an announcer who's doing well. So he's popular with the UC on many fronts, and he's so likable. Yeah. Have you noticed a lot of people just like Paul fielder in I could see this. I could see Paul Felder being one of those guys that have he's in the right place at the right time. Maybe one day he'll get a title shot. You know what I mean? Now look at poor. Ye I would think he's super popular as well. And we can't even get a match up in two thousand nineteen yet. And they're already filling up cards all the way till may he's healthy. But he's likable. Just just the timing isn't working out because of everything being stuck on working things out with a b Connor or whatever. But the Paul Felder, man. He's on a roll all that being said, he'll puff elder was, Victoria. That night, but he had to spend the night in the house believe collateral long. Yeah. Do you know how dangerous that could be and to spend the night in the hospital. James Vic, I think he solved one of the questions of a lot of people. Remember, what happened with just engaging? And he took a lot of good shots from Paul Felder and kept on come. And he also has the option of maybe moving up a class, and he's a big, dude. But you're right. He's a young kid. And I think he's still gonna make the make adjustments. The one thing I like about him knows. When decision was read. And it didn't goes way his reaction reaction of just disappointment just being upset. There's a lot of guys that just kinda hang their head. Like, oh, well, you could tell James Vic is that. He's gonna be right back in the gym to correct those mistakes. Yeah. Paul filter is four. No since losing the tornado in September two thousand sixteen. Now. I'm not stupid. I know he fought my Perry with other well tweet fight. But I believe he's won his last five or last four as a lightweight. So. He's got a little bit of a buzz in that division. All right. Who's up next goes who do we have been from New Zealand? What's up? Ben. How're you doing? You haven't been Swedish ships. Yeah. That's a that's a worry here pool. Who's fighting with a collapsed lung man that's up there flying? But one of the things that was frustrating minutes at five Monday think I didn't remember commentators even bringing it up is it pool was going hate hunting way too much and not trying to punch James in the buddy James has gotten pretty good at just getting his just out of the way of the shorter opponents and pretty much everyone showed them and put my pool wouldn't get into the buddy. I don't think too much you guys see the same thing. I think it kicked them in the body will. Yeah, he didn't punt them to the body as far as James getting out of the way, he was but a couple of times he was getting just clicked on the chin, and he really needs the tuck that Chinen better. And when he's retreating he has the bad habit of leaving it out there. What he did improve on though was not having his back towards or against the cage, if you'll notice that's kind of what was downfall against just to gauge e and luckily, his coach loiter. And kept telling him get off that bad cage. You could even hear them so strongly emphasize, it's something I believe that they corrected and that was good. There was some positives from him to take that take out of that fight. You know, again fell there's a stud, you know, somebody had to go down in this case. It was wanna point something out Felder. I believe the collapsed long on the last kick of the third round. So luckily, Ben from New Zealand this didn't happen in the first round. And it wasn't anything where he was, you know, at the I guess at a higher risk. Luckily, it did happen at the end. But yeah, that's scary. Feel from. I've got a crap cracked rebel myself at the moment, but it wasn't some doing things like fighting James Vick. But what does I'm getting on? I'm gonna get almost there's this thing with Kane. Kane get knocked out or did he did he did? He Rick is league. I last week or not just after is sun is fired against Anderson. It was a gift doing the rounds with its sort of got posted. In can't remember was read it on an well Anderson was Beck in the matrix. The three strikes at Z three. When people were saying where he's begging the matrix as feel missed, but a lot of people saying, no every single one hit, and it was like those. And if you remember that drifts awhile ago that was his name is this dress blue or is it white. And there was another one that was that Yanni will what was it Yanni or something like that? And the same person can watch the same thing and see a completely different thing here completely different thing. Because when I look at those gifts of this came for icy seats. Snap. Violently. Both lead early an rotation me from that either cat. It's not like a little tent as it gets snapped while real violently. And that's the thing that drops and kills you equilibrium. Why his bat starts dropping vertically and avoidance body starts rotating vertical. Like, he's if you're going for a takedown buddy is more lateral to the ground. Right. Is body gets pushed up verticals because he's got my muscle control because his brains just shut off where France's punch. Yeah. His legs little league gave out and that's why he felt that way. Yeah. Exactly. Right. And then so that's when you're inches the knee. So, but if you look around the internet at the moment people saying not not ever kit. The nothing was just because of league back with a knife. But I don't want to say. Saying that rated a lot. It's just oh, man. It's eleven you didn't have the intimate is it's much fun. Yeah. Suppose, you're right. Yeah. No, man. That was a that was a hard punch, and it was on the money was on the button and just just canes reactional loan to us tells us that was that that it was a valid hit. You know what I mean? You know, Ben, we got to go to one more break. But if there's something else, you wanna say, you got a couple of seconds. The couple of seconds. I was gonna say there are some footage of Kane at the Bipin workout where he's hitting mitts, and it looks like you rig wrenches that knee. And if you go to the scene that clip try and fund and put in the Facebook group, but Cain city going into the fight. He's got good and everything, but there's a moment and the workout. This doesn't look good. Okay. Yeah. I heard that as well. All right. Thanks for the call been listening to MMA junkie radio on fire nation channel three when we come back. We do want to go through some of the results that came out of Biltmore fifteen to sixteen and of course, we'll continue UFC on ESPN dot, but don't touch that. Dial. We'll be right back. I get paid to say things in this cool voice. And then you get paid to be lame. Here are gorgeous George in goes. All right on Friday night before we even got to Saturday's belt or to sixteen card with VPN daily and you'll see on ESPN one within Ghana Velazquez on Friday night had a card Saint place on Cassville, Connecticut and Austin van Ford patriots Antos men got a win. He continues to look good undefeated got themselves a nice prospect, their former champion at Wahdan. Former bantamweight champion for bell toward water down to scuttle win over Toby by us oaths. Don't does Logan story also got a dominant win. So I'm talking like thirty twenty seven zero for the most part on both guys scorecards. But then we get to the main event with two solid solid. Heavyweights two guys that could possibly fight for a world title. I know betrayal and just lost to to baiter. But, but you know, he's had a nice little run there and all he'd have to maybe a couple couple of wins. And then he'd being but carry Tana, possibly, you know, may may have been looking at something. Well, what happened was Maitree on fifteen seconds in cuts cuts. Kicks kicks him in the nuts, and oh, Gary Tana wasn't agony. I think he could have given them fifty five minutes, not just five minutes, and he wasn't gonna recover. He was just writhing in pain. You could tell it was bad. And I've heard of in this sport. I've heard of a testicle exploding boom, and I've heard of testicle being pushed up into the abdomen. And I was thinking that it's one of those two all I was thinking because this guy and getting up and it's weird because the referee said, I know it was unintentional, and it's going to be a no contest. But. It almost looked like there was nowhere else that it was headed like other than to that particular spot. There wasn't that much believe me did pivot a little bit. I guess now in no way, my call Mitch dirty. That's for damn sure guy goes out and competes man, he's a sportsman. He could just beat that guy with his hands or his kicks. He doesn't need to do that. But when you see it, you just have like, I know there's a lot of fans at that struggle with that where they're like. Well, what was it going? Then you know, what I mean? 'cause that's all. That's there. You know that this is. Ties caq and right above that the bullet the belly button because you're not gonna make it to the belly button. Because you know, you're you're the jewels and everything else is there. They just look like, that's the only way only place. It was headed. I gotta have we gotta have another sit down with a Jason hers or somebody that comes to town in the future. Because pick John's is not available to us. Like, he was we can always deal phone. But like when is it intentional? Then, you know. And I think like once you've done it the second time or third time. I mean does the referee up to hear him say, hey, motherfucker here. Which is the way I'm gonna kick you in the nuts. And then boom a second later. Meanwhile nuts. It's not that easy. It's like if you're in a fight, and you're looking to kick someone in the nuts like it's not the easiest thing to do. And you gotta worry about somebody's hands. Like, I think very few of them are really intentional. Yeah. Here's what happened to carry a ton of though, he went to loss Biddle came back to his hotel and then had to go back to the hospital again later that night. I mean, you know, whatever it was was brutal. Luckily, we got to see him again the next night, and he was all but. Nobody wants to ever be in that situation. And I mean lucky for us the seems like something that they could do again fairly soon. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, say I don't I don't remember either guy. Well, in this case more Matry on having any any label of being dirty fighter. So more than you know, more than likely he just meant to kick a certain part of the body and was just off. But in terms of how it looked it just looked like that's where he had meant to hit them. There wasn't really too much movement from the early two. Yeah. So that ended unfortunately, bell tour to sixteen dollars a gray card with even more talent give you some quick results here because we're up against the break. Valerie, the Rada gotta win over covy, fetch Fletcher yorislav, Amazon defeated Erick Silva, man Silva, gave it gave them hell though, Chicago defeat of Italian Minakov get cough suffered his first loss there bicker. Kroger. Defeated ROY Nelson. And by the way, those decisions there were disputed was the daily one Michael Vince page defeated Paul daily we will touch on that in the second hour. We'll be right back at semi junkie radio and fight nation. Channel me. I've your Mendez coming up next. Harry, buddy. Thanks for listening to them. I may junkie radio. I wanna take this time to let you know about our producer Danny show. It's called popping off and at airs live twice a week. Wednesdays nine pm eastern, six PM Pacific and Thursdays. 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They were -ducted by aliens in instantly returned for rating all their snacks. They are gorgeous, George and goes, and this is MA junkie radio. Evan alien abducted me, probably go. This guy's fucking. Oh, send him back. There's nothing to probe in the him. We can't dissect his brain or body or anything send him back. Wow. I just made a huge mistake. So I have some explaining and apologizing to do, but I'm gonna see if Josh is it labeled rule American. No, I just initiated the whole conversation with the wrong. Frisky may know though, actually because we none of that conversation. Threw him off like wait a minute. Oh, no. You know what? Please explain in detail, please. Oh, wow. What a colossal fuck up. Well, can you try the real one? I oh, yeah. I'll shoot him attacks shot and see when it just call them. And see, by the way, are you? Do you right now happen to be free to do receive TV lasts ass off when you talk. And if not I'll explain the whole story, you know? To know because member Otto. I'm the idiot the whole time. But now, I know why was saying it and why I wrote it the way I did if you would have just said at once I would have said, okay. Was the S junk right that that was fine there. But since I saw it twice I go. Maybe I don't know. But then he said, yeah, you're right. So it was like, okay. Yeah. Because what I thought was that I spoke to a certain I thought I spoke to 'em. But I accident he wrote V. So when you told me, hey, you know, what Tim via 'cause like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I I must have just wrote the wrong thing. But no time I've been talking to v wasn't like, hey, none of the you wanna talk about makes any sense to me right now at no, no, no in all read, the whole thing because this is in any way. You know, I I don't believe this is insulting. Or or you know, what I mean? Patronizing nothing like that in any way. And if we have to we I would enjoy talking to to JV, you know, what I mean? And just say that don't they like that? Well, though, those are the initials quick to point out of. That's what I mean is initials not not anything to do with the. It's not exactly. But if Josh tells me that he pulls off a miracle will will will do the interview that. We holy accidentally promoted on the site. And if not then I will, you know, trying to figure that out with with that gentleman that gentleman could be on our website right now on these guys have lost their mind. What thinks we he thinks. We're we ally just texted have air. So we'll we'll see if if he can come on. Now. Let me. Okay, interesting. Yeah. Well, no, the reason did you call them though. I try to voicemail. The hob Mendez. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, that's why I just don't want both of them the call. And then all of a sudden we're going to really do three way. What what happened Junkin nation? Here's what happened junky nation again. Nothing bad happened here. This is just an honest mistake. All right. So I thought it would be a good time to catch up with you know, everybody focuses on the winners of fight. And I don't know. He's look at it that way, I think if there's a story there's a story, and I figured let's have hobby men is on the show except. Me being the numb nuts that I am. I texted hobby Vasquez. Former WEC fighter de fight news at one point or I don't know. Virgin, but he had some pretty good fights in the w. Yeah. Hell, yeah. He did Mazo so Keller guy we liked that guy. Even though he's a big dog guy. But still not been around there. Let me read. I'm just curious here about hobby Vasquez. It's hilarious that he's playing this music. Because when we were kids, we would do something stupid. We would whistle this. Why did we do that? Like if somebody was just being a clown. Like if you did something dumb so Vasquez actually did fight once in the CNN one undefeated in the find everywhere. Okay. Respectable record sixteen in five beat jen's. Pulver Mackin summers are just Evensen. I was so against antics that one of my ex girlfriends, I would also make her dance to this music when whistling it. She knew if she screwed up she'd have to shuffle. Hey, boss. Have you ever asked? Just texted me. Let's call him. He just got done with class. So we will talk to the former WC and you'll see that he said he had something going on, Jim. So we're all in favor. But when I read you, the text, I think, we'll all get kicked out of it. Health was the last time we fought two thousand eleven it's been a while. And in. That's right. He battled cancer. I'm trying to catch up here on my notes. Yeah. One time married. Oh, he needs the number. Yeah. Oh, well and now. Mendez now says the Bill. Okay. Talk to tell Mendez if we can call them at six thirty 'cause Vasquez. We have to be what's right is. Right. And I believe Vasquez told me he only had six six thirty available. So I wanna I wanna comply. Text me is number. Doing right now. Okay. These things happen in. Yeah. Mendez can do six thirty to seven. That would be awesome. We'd have two guests, and look we have all week to cover everything that went on look. In the meantime, while Josh does this. Let's talk about beltway to sixteen MVP daily right at the top big grudge match. Was it a striking our affair? No, no, not in the least bit first round was horrific. You had. Yeah. You can hear the laughter in the back. They probably watched the two MVP was just in his usual sites. Stance karate sands. And he wanted to kick somebody and he did a couple of times and look like daily had a big left big left hook ready for them. But neither guy with throw. And then all of a sudden daily turned it into a little bit of a wrestling match. And there's nothing wrong with it. The only problem is quick to remind he had a problem with when John Fitch was doing it to him. So he's taken a little bit of heat for that one. But still nothing wrong with trying to win a fight in a certain way, especially with a million dollars at the end of the rainbow. Holy cow. And then in the end, you know, it picked up a little bit. But he got grappled back. And I think we all agreed that MVP won rounds one in four and two and three went the daily and so going into the fifth round whoever won that round was gonna win it, and I know dailies disappointed, but I think it was close up until the very end when. And we just happened to be the guy that ended on top. And that was that. All right. Have you rescues radio? Right eating, right. Joining us now is former WC and you have veteran, Javier Vazquez. How're you doing? Are you? How are you? Good. My man. Welcome back to Emma may junkie radio. Your aunt with Georgia goes, it's been a minute. Thanks for jumping on line with us here. Now, I gotta come clean. But either way I still want to catch up with you. Because I remember covering you for a long time. And like I was telling the audience sixteen and five record notable wins. You want to know in the UC. Joe Stevenson jen's where everything we definitely tip our hat to you. But I gotta admit to you, sir here on live radio. I had actually meant to to book, Javier Mendez, and I and I took the wrong hobby air. But then when you told me you had an event going on and everything. Well, we're so calories as well. We figured hey, let's let's support that. So so tell us a little bit catches up a little bit with higher with how you've been and tell us about the event you got going on. And you know, we'd love to know what what what's the latest with you. Yeah. You know, the last couple of years of being a little bit challenging, but I just wanted to give everybody in update. On my health and everything that's been going on. I my I'm gonna be coming off of the Gerson therapy. Here very soon, hopefully in April are tapering down. And and I'm getting past the I'm getting towards the end of you know, beating cancer back in October of twenty seventeen. Right. You were diagnosed with colon cancer. And and you're saying that your in the finishing stages of meeting that diagnosis. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I well over a year and wonderful lamb. Yeah. And you know, we understand what causes understand how to treat it. And I'm excited. I'm going to be making a YouTube channel. Eventually why what's I get because this guy is incredibly labor intensive so takes up a lot of my time. But as I start coming off, I want to share what I did to beat it. So I'm gonna start. I'm you. They're going to do it off of mine. I you to channel our probably starting another one just so it has its own YouTube channel, recipes and strategies and stuff of. Of how I did it. Now is this a big secret you're holding onto or can you give us a little bit? Because this is curious. No, while I did the Gerson therapy, which is max Gerson who who's now passed and his daughter Charlotte who just recently passed maybe a week or so ago have been preaching the therapy for she since the nineteen almost about almost one hundred years Charlotte was ninety five and Pat, and they've been pushing his die for a long time, the Gerson institute pushers diet, and it's in beating cancer for you know, about one hundred years. Therapy. And I'm coming off of coming off the very soon. Okay. And a lot of this has to do with what like your diet or? Yeah. It's Gerson therapy is a poor state four step basically processes kind of like four pillars. First pillar is is basically your diet, which is basically just vegetables like no oils. No meek, no animal products at all of you know, vegan diet second pillar is juices. I was doing up to twelve juices a day at the peak of the diet. The third pillar is coffee Animas and the fourth pillar is supplementation with the juices. So it's a four like a four maybe the four pillar approach. So it's a complete bear be. So I'm like on a certain regimen. Producers I'm on a certain regimen for supplements or have certain amount of coffee treatments. I have to do every day. And then my. Food is is is compared to certain way as well. So. Damn man respect. I mean that seems like you put yourself through a lot. But I guess when you're fighting for your life, you have to do it. And and here you are sounding like you're on the verge of beating cancer fully. That's very commendable. Yeah. I've learned a lot about the body. I've learned about about a lot of my nutrition. I learned a lot about. You know, I got into into meditation because the you know, what causes cancer is two things. Cities and deficiency. Right talk fifty in the body that we put in our body things that we breathing. The air thing drink, you know, stress is huge talks in the Bobby has about, you know, talk to your body because it's releasing adrenalin and all these things in court on all things in your in your body, which which make your PH balance balance acidic, so and then nutrient deficient food is the other the other end of it people aren't really eating right? People are eating a lot of greasy foods people are eating, you know, a lot of fast foods, so it puts all these toxins and chemicals in your body, and you know, cancers basically a hijacking of the immune system. So the second year mucus them goes to hell in Handbasket then to develop an answer. Have you ever ask is is our guest here on the junkie radio show? Former w Kate king of the cage, and you have see veteran. All right. Let me turn it over to goes. Now goes what do you have your baskets of air? So I have a lot of friends and family that have gone through something similar and one of the biggest challenges for them was just trying to figure out there. So many courses of action in so many ways to address the cancer that it's kind of difficult to pick the correct one. How long did it take you to kind of figure out the exact course that you wanted to go through and how many people were involved in that decision? I mean, I came across the Gerson therapy when I was getting research when I was fighting back in the w c I started getting a little bit older and outcoming you knows you. You know, as you get older the last few fights thirty three thirty four years old recovery starts to be an issue. I didn't want to have to you know, I didn't want to go like the. like. Illegal supplement route. So you know, I I tried to figure out what else I can do. So I started looking at the diet in church in and I came across the Gerson therapy. And they basically saw you know know, be cancer, and he had the other a little bit of research. But nothing too crazy about my while if I ever to get that, I kind of know what direction to go, and and and and the diet and the dodgers a lot more than this Kansas all kinds of stuff, basically repairs you immune system, and then your immune system be everything off your natural healing mechanism within your own body can can support itself can be all that stuff. But you need to give the proper supplementation in the property Trish in order for it to to kind of kick on. So when I was looking do my research for fighting, for instance, I came Bronco guy. And then you know, I didn't think I was ever gonna get get Cantu. Right. So he does. So just so happy. Now when I got it. I went to my follow this mill I got chemo. My team. Oh, I didn't want do people. You know, I've done enough research on on on that starting to cancer research realizing that team was not a great option. It's going to do more harm than good. If if it does anything at all if it if it doesn't kill you. You might arrive. So, you know, my my, you know, I told my doctor that I was gonna go different routes. It made no sense to me to be. My body was already you know, deficient and toxic. So I had to I didn't want for more medicine in and make it even more talks it so it makes no sense to go to the team. But the person therapy, basically you needed my body nutrition. Rejuvenated my bodyguard rejuvinated my body, and I feel way better now than I ever did before. So you know, you gotta get the parties out for nutrition and your body will fight cancer by myself. So I when I told my mom is in the medical field. She does respiratory therapy. She she was very hesitant. And when she started doing her research, she thought I made the best decision. And my sister was also involved with the same thing when you start doing the research, and you start really diving into what? That is and how to beat it. And the results are gonna get from it. The decision is pretty easy. It's whether or not you can do. Excuse me. It's whether or not you can do the work because it's it's pretty labor intensive. You know, how are of heard a lot of doctors tell fighters and athletes that had their bodies not been through what they they've gone through and just being in that peak physical shape before some of them may not have been able to get through the flight in your case was that an advantage having, you know, having a body that had had been conditioned so well, most of your life. Yeah. I definitely think that that it didn't hurt. And I definitely think that I have a pretty strong minds. I mean, even even when I fawn step. I was I was I was pretty mentally tough, you know, throughout my career and stuff and just just the journey the workout stuff to get ruled training camp and into a by those are, you know, mentally ruling as well and was weight cuts. Right. You gotta be pretty mentally tough to go through a bunch of weight pets, which suck you know. Because there's a lot of you know. Yes, there's there's physical work that needs to be done. Right. But there's also mental to work. I got into meditation. Could you have a Li so that helped tremendously as well to kind of calm my mind. And and you know, just being really disciplined is is is is what really gets to this diet, but also psychological, you you're basically changed to juicer for t-. Right. So you can't really do any. They can't really travel can't really go anywhere. Got to kind of focus on your health and focus on yourself or a little bit of time. And you know, you kind of confined to a city co wherever you live. You can't really go anywhere is you gotta be back at twelve uses. You're doing that use every forty five minutes. Your presence is every forty five minutes. You know, so. You know, the mental. I it man, I'm gonna write a book on that point. Because the mental the physical work is it, you know, me having, you know, meet me in pretty good shape to start with. I think it all contributed to to success. And then might support system was incredible my sister's support from there was a gofundme before me that that help support. I mean what I've been through. I've been incredibly blessed to be able to make it through gracefully the way I feel like I have on top of other things I was going through on top of that. I there's no way I can be done about myself is definitely a team effort. Harvey areas. This Gershon therapy apply to all forms of cancer. Or was it specific to call and cancer? Which was diagnosed with. I mean, you start looking at it yours every insurance that Beatty that years. Lymphomas that your itches all kinds of stuff because what it does is. It rejuvenates. Your body is getting it gets rid of all the toxins with the juices in the coffee trees and say, they they get rid of all the toxins out of your body. Then utrition that you're putting in do the juices and supplementation rejuvenate your immune system. So it's fight off everything. So literally fights off everything really what it doesn't it? Just brings your body. Every Setzer your body back to square one. And and your body fights everything bites everything off on the phone. Will you have to have a strict diet for the rest of your life? Or can you now indulge from? I my diet may be. By choice. It will be pretty strict. You gotta understand that the less the more liberal. You are to diet the more toxins, you're taking in so long as you supplement yourself with proper nutrition with juicers and copy treatments, you can kind of and really meditation. And and and and really I will be able to eat pretty much whatever I in in. What did they say in limitation that limitation? What's the word? I'm looking for. In proportion though. I'm no where it's been about. You know, the I know the word he's like with the proper can't go nuts on I you have a little bit in moderation moderation. Where's Luke Thomas? We need them. Okay. God. God, I have everything in moderation. But I won't eat red meat again. I mean, there's a there's a book out there called the China study Colin Campbell road it and talks about how how animal animal products, you know, put his cancer like instantly choose of your cancer in your your bloodwork like so I'm not taking any chances. I'll pretty much on a vegan diet the rest of my life. And I'll pretty much might maintenance protocol is supposed to be part, four juices and one coffee in a day for the rest of my life. But it's easy, man. Once you once you've done twelve four. Really? Okay. Well, we're very happy that you are close to be one hundred percent clear and great we were able to connect. Now, tell me about the weekend event because we have to get going here. But you said you had an available on on this weekend. And we'd love to help you promote it. Yeah. Oh, first of all it's going to be at my accounting hobby about his to kademi in Rancho Cucamonga, and we're just having a small in house tournament. I used to run tebow big tournaments that the fitness that's going all that was a pretty sure. Yes. Those are pretty stressful their key event, but we're going to be running for small enough tournament on February twenty fourth at at the hobby rats is you get to kademi all the registration all of a sudden on my Instagram J B to the flyers are in all the rest of the website information is on cases, you get to my to grant. And if you're interested in techniques and stuff, I I do post that need in. And I show what's going on. Academy. Tells great. All right. Well, thanks for sharing that with us a way we to speak and thanks for the time. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate. All right. So you have your take care. All right, folks. We are going to take a quick break. You're listening to EMMY junkie radio on fight nation. Chelny three stay close. We'll be right back. They were -ducted by aliens in instantly returned for rating all their snacks. They are gorgeous, George and goes, and this is MMA junkie radio. All right. I'll do the next on the next break. I'll do the read for now is jumped to the hotline. It's like it's Kevin from Chicago. What's up Kevin? What's up guys? I wanted to read you this tweet real quick and see what you guys. I know I know what you're going to say, I I can already read you. I know what exactly what you're going to say here. I'll do it for you. This is what you're going to say not trying to start a fight, but wrestlers hold eight of seven male UC titles, and people are one high level B J guy chokes very low level grappler and people be like hashtag JJ for life. Right. No, no, no. This is a tweet. Great news is there's only is that there's only one minute left Congo controlling Minakov head. He's working his way back up is back to his feet Bill toward two to sixteen. Now if that was the tweeden at third round when Minakov was on top with congress back against the cage out his back. Now when you when someone's at top of you, and they're hanging on your head, you think Congo's controlling medicos head or Minakov, it's controlling tangos body. He's definitely controlling head. Even when mini comes on top of them. Oh, yeah. I disagree. I say. Controlling the fight. He's the top taking them down control them for the carrier. I dying cough was going to be awarded the fight. I'm going to be honest with you, I picked Congo. Yeah. But I thought that Minakov one. But now Minakov raised good is, okay. For one. Let me say this. I picked Minakov I thought minute calm. I bet minute call. And I thought Minakov at the end was gonna maybe get the call. But Congo poured it on with some strikes, and I think maybe that's what was able to sway the judges or whatever. But I think Minakov was hitting more would judges usually look at and that's where a lot of the controversy comes from. So, you know, it's it depends on whoever you talk to some people say who would you rather be or whatever, and that's a whole other question. But I thought I thought they were gonna call minute name. But when they did and I wasn't shocked either. But h been aspirins tweet I thought that was right down your alley. Kevin. I knew you would love it. He's a little wrong, though, six of eight you've see males hold the titles that are that have wrestling. I think he he wants to kind of ride Whitaker. A little bit. With Whittaker has talked about wrestling a little bit Commonwealth Games. But not like, a he's not like, you know, ingrained in the mall is life or nothing like that. We got to move on to our next guest though. Thanks for the call. All right. Our next guest is Javier Mendez, the head coach at American kickboxing academy home, the world champions like Josh Thomson. Luke rock hold Dana Cormie and the list goes on and on he's on the hotline. What's so coach? How're you doing? Good. I'm doing good. How are you? All right. My man. Thank you very much for joining us here on the joke radio show. You know, everybody runs to win. Somebody wins wins wins. And that's great. And all, but I think it I think it's always great to talk to a team when they have their high lose. Yeah. And I know last night, you know, didn't go the way you guys wanted. But but still like I say, I don't think you guys have ever shied away from you know, dealing with big wins and big losses. That's what makes your gym. So commendable so powerful, you know, 'cause you guys are still always able to rebound anyone when things don't go your way. A you know unfortunate, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No. It was a bad freak situation. And and, but hey, you know, things happen in in the, you know, sometimes it's it's I've never encountered this one. But hey, there's always something new. Yeah. And so two two and a half years. I know there's if there's fighters out there that can get past something like that, you know, that type of ring rust, it's a guy liking blossoms because he's such a hard worker. And he said he had a great camp. And all that what I wanted to ask you was knowing that he was gone for two and a half years. It was at a different type of game plan that you create for a guy like that. What more than what anybody's really talking about is just those first couple kicks that he was throwing he just didn't seem on at that particular moment before we even got to you know, the exchange the attempt to take down in the uppercut. You don't obviously there is there is ring rush. No doubt. But that you know, you know, when he started out at the very beginning in the sparring department, he wasn't bite on point. But at the very end there. He was on point. And the fact that he hasn't been in inside performing that that many people could have been a little antsy. Yeah. Probably, you know, but, but regardless, you know, twenty six six seconds into about doesn't really determine very much about how good somebody is how good somebody isn't. You know, one thing's for sure he was ready. He was one hundred percent healthy. You know? It's just unfortunately that you know, his meat pop. You know, while he was in there going into clinch with him. And as a neat pop then he got hit with a little short. You'd have to really look it's either open hand uppercut or slight uppercut. They hit him charges setback loop. But but his knee had rape Papa soul. So it made his be about completely, you know. So there if you slow it down, you can watch it he's wincing in pain. And then he's going down as it's going down. It's going to grab like he's me. But then then he sees Congo jumping on governed. So he's covering themselves. And then I think he took a one good shot from Congo. And it was a good stoppage. You know, the whole bit and credited Congo. He came in prepared. And you know, and he got the victory, you know, and the getting the name of the game is victory. Right. And he got the victory regardless of what happened. I he's still got the victory, you know, in dice to sportsmen, and you know, good luck to him on his next bout. And that we just gotta see how much the damage was the now damage was pretty substantial. I would think I don't know if it's M C O or meniscus a hopeless the meniscus that we won't know he's going to have to get it checked out over there in Arizona. Where is that? Yeah. And so let's let's fix something. Real fast. You you were on hold when we were bringing you in. And I was I was talking about Congo. But but you guys is fight was within goners. So I think he took the hand off from me. But we both know we're talking about the other Frenchmen Francis. And gone. All right. So you just clarify something that was kind of mysterious for a lot of people because we heard Cain say he hurt his knee prior to that finishing sequence. But then in the post fight he. He kind of didn't mention that. So you're saying that was a slight tweak prior to the exchange where he goes to the tweet take down, and then the uppercut caused them to to further hurt himself. He felt the slight pot and then and then when he went to when he went, but whatever the the the stance again, he got hit you could see it on the video because he's getting short like short like uppercut like, and it's kind of right hand. And and and then and then his me completely went. So it was ready damaged, but that really completely medico. So so, but if you look at it, and you're not really paying attention. You would think that the punch in it? And I actually saw rightfully so non you would think the punch did it because you know, when I I saw I was like, honestly, I don't know what the hell happened. I went what Di L happen here. That was weird. You know, I was like damn fights over Huckabee. I what happened and then you watch him play. Then you could you could see the replay just play the replay. You'll see it. And then if you pay attention. To you know, you can't see when I originally pup. You can't see that. Because that's something. You don't see you know, completely gives then the completely gave when when he got hit. But you can see when he goes down. He wasn't never out. He was he was into because when you go down you don't quote weeks, your leg, you don't do that. Because you're I mean, your your defense right now thinking, oh, but protect mess up in here. He's like in pain like I could see his mouth open like, and then all of a sudden, he covered his hands. You know because punches were coming in there too. Yep. Especially if you've got someone like like in Ghana coming after you Jesus Christ that guy just wanna Nathen coach, we got a call earlier from from a listener a fan of the show, and of the sport who said that he he saw what others had also posted on social media that Kane may have tweaked the knee on the open workout. Did you hear about anything like that? Or see anything like that? No, no. He never said nothing. To me about it. If that happened. I he didn't say a word to me about that. Now. So so if if if it did happen, he didn't tell me, and and hope he would have told me he didn't come in nothing. He just like, I'm telling you. He said he heard the pop, and then then the thing just went out in the when I watched the video I he got hit. He got hit as his leg went out too. So it's kind of looks like it was the plunge that did it. But it had started before the punt is what I'm saying. So it's a freak accident. How it happened? I don't know. I don't know. Now, we got to them because he wasn't. He was a now he was not out of it. You know? But like he trusts me if if the rest didn't Stipe fail on with the pain, he was or he would have been. Yeah. How does is our guest here on junkie radio? He's the head coach over at American kickboxing. And nothing I want to ask you here before I turn it over to goes one thing. I I've loved about your team is the camaraderie with all these high level champions like the next guy just Willis he hasn't been a champion. But he's you know, he he possibly could be in a few years, and he tweeted, I just added another one to my hit list, and then DC, basically, you know, gave them a little bit of a fist bump as well. Man. That's so cool to see your guys kind of like have each other's back. Like that. You know what I mean? And then be able to manage it the way he hasn't been able to manage it. The last few years with egos, not stepping on egos. It's pretty impressive that culture. You've kind of created over there. You know, what it's it's it's it's funny that that, you know, after so many years of being together. It's people asked me, what's my greatest accomplishment. And and I say these very words were still a team and people don't really fully understand it. But now after twenty something years before going, wow, you know, what he had now they're acknowledging what's my greatest achievement. We're still a team we're still together. And I it is not easy. It's not easy at all not easy at all so hard. It's it's much harder than Achim champion. There are many champions or many chances to come is keeping us together keeping us, you know, working together. And and and and you know, and of course, we're always going to have some disrupt since here, and there it's impossible to keep it. Perfect. And I have a lot of misfits. You know, obviously, I know, but I do a very good job of trying to keep us together. Caring about each other. And it's not easy. I'm not always successful. You know? But but one thing I will always do and have continued to do as I always try and. I always will. And, you know, I'm proud of the fact that was Silla teen. Came. Alaska's was asked about if this was a serious injury. When he retired just because his body's been banged up. And he didn't seem inclined to to think that was an option. But how have you been able to with with that? And the fact that DC said, hey, when I turned forty I want to retire what kind of input have you given these guys or have even asked you for any when it comes to the R word globe. For me. The word is something. I can't give because I've tried it before. And it doesn't work. Our word has come from van. But I do say with e he if you are asking me as your coach, I would love for you to just fight Branca's and right off in the sunset. I mean, you're such an unbelievable commentator. You're unbelievable host. You're unbelievable. Your made for TV. He's made for TV people love with that guy. And I would really love for him to quit. But you know, what? That's just my opinion. He's going to do what he wants who. And if whatever he wants to do. I'm going to support it as long as he's healthy as he is. And of course, he has had a slight injuries. That's why he didn't he didn't finish his career off like he wanted to. But, but I support Daniel for million whatever endeavor he wants to do. And I'm with them one hundred percent. He's always made the right decisions. So if you be sides he wants to fight some more than he's got his whole crew behind him because everybody that knows Daniel loves them. Yeah. So as far as what you're saying. I I support him. I support all the guys. Have you ever have you ever been a junkie radio? He's the leader of the aka the famous, aka Jim in San Jose. All right goes, what do you have for your mentors in regards to Daniel corn maize to stop fighting spirit that he has I've seen him take losses in video games and flip out and just have it burned him. You know? What a lot of people point to in this little ending that he's talking about is that if somewhere along those lines if he were to suffer a loss he would be done. And sometimes I think about that. And I think man, I think a loss of something that would drive him nuts. And would actually keep them around me from what you know of how he is. How do you feel about that exactly what you said? Just as well as I think, I myself, and I'm with them. Yeah. No. I don't think I don't think he can leave it at that. He's got an end with the win, you know. And so hopefully, we get Brock and hopefully can beat Brock which I'm thinking he can. But you know, what I'm thinking just because I think many well, but, but I want the biggest prize for him and the biggest prizes Brock, and this is prize fight in this sport. But price fight is number one. It's always about who can bring the biggest biggest dollars for you in the stays where there that's why you know, how be getting caught was fantastic world con-. You know, you know, the annual getting Brock. There's no bigger prize for heavyweight in that none zero you know. So for me, I want them to have that opportunity in the and then write off, you know, he's done everything else needs. So so that that to me is what's all about? You know, you've got the fame. You got the titles? Go after the money. Going back to caned Alaska's just for a second be the tweet that he had before. And then when he fell he felt very awkwardly was he able to tell if the fall itself also added to the injury. If there was something else that happened on the fall or was it just a tweak before I think he just said it hurts me pop. And then and then he just said he's me just gave up it just gave out he tried to switch position. And it gave up in salt from what he said. Like, I said, I watched the video, and as I said, well, when you watch the video if you if you really paying attention, the then you see he got he got hit with the sort like arm uppercut, you know. But it the way it looked it looked like, you know, if you're not really paying attention to look like uppercut really did the damage, but it wasn't sneak gave out. That's what made it intensified admit look worse. But he did get hit and did get hit with the knee pop before that punch actually happened. So I did a. Instagram tweet way sets and not everybody most people agreed that there's some they're going. Oh, you that. Is that uppercut the did it to them? But the missing the point I said his neat pop before the uppercut. No, he did get hit. I got after the new pop not after he went down in ho. I it pop, you know, no one can see when the pop happened. I couldn't see it even on video. I couldn't see whether pub. You know, as a coach, I I look at what you have to do. And there's not that much time between the end of the fight. And when they're announcing the winner. So I'm trying to figure out like as a coach you're probably trying to figure out what exactly happened is my fighter. Okay. And then having to console came as well because he just suffered a devastating loss after a long way off. How did you control all your emotions? And what was what was like the order of what you were trying to figure out in your head. Well, my first order was like, you know, the first thing I did. I just put my head down. You know when it happened. And I'm just like can this happen to him again member? He was the first guy that was on the FOX show and that one right? Right. Get no business fighting them that and I tried tried to, you know, do everything we can the this case. And we were torn he we we were told he only had a strain. There was no tear, but that he had a torn meniscus complete tear. And that's why he couldn't wrestle. That's why couldn't do any case. So you know, we went into the fight with just boxing. And then check this out, you know, in my mind, I'm freaking out because I'm trying to get doctors to give them a quarter zone shot. They wouldn't do it. And I couldn't understand why they wouldn't give quotas of south. But then when I found out after we did another MRI that it was completely torn at the one that they wanted to give a quarter because they couldn't destroy his leg, you know. So so that was horrible. So here he is going in with torn meniscus. No confidence whatsoever. Only could box in your boxing, a superior boxer could muck, you know. So he gets a male. So now here we're going into this fight. But in this one that difference was he was one hundred percent healthy. He was one hundred percent ready. There was nothing wrong with him. So for me to all of a sudden this happened again, I just put my head down. I'm gonna hockey this beat what I hell. It's a curse because I'm kind of superstitious notice somewhat thinking, then the next thing I'm going, man. I hope he's. Okay. So I love I love Kane. I love all my guys, but I'm very close to Kane. And he's by family. I'm the God father to his daughter quarrel. You know, so we're family. So I it Dick's deeper on me, then it would anybody else because he's my family. So it hurts. You know, when do you think you guys want to know the extent of the injury today? I said, hey, you know, how you doing goes? You know, only cities it. Okay. I'll go about you need goes. I'm gonna have a check out or please, let me know. And you know when you can love. To. We'll find out you know, when find out the extent, I hope it's not the NCO. I'm praying that assist the meniscus, you know, because the meniscus MC L. I don't know. I don't know. What that could mean, you know, because he's, you know press conference if you listened to his press conference, you said it right in the press conference. You know, he appre- accident. And he was fine. You know, and he wants to be back. You know, he does he's he feels that. He's used to be the best, and you know, he wants to go. And it's and it's really the whole thing is it it it's kind of unfair for the fans, you know, to have come for this. And then to just see something like that. And it's a freak accident that most people like it wasn't in most people. It was you know. So we need more of a definitive. You know, a great fight. You know, we you agree plight between between him, and whoever it doesn't have to be gone. All you just have to get back to the form that used to be. But the freak accident did not create that in. And and you know, we'll see hopefully. Maybe you know, he'd get if he does have a, you know, something not as bad. He can get back on the wagon and maybe two or three fights on the line. Maybe the US he'll give him another crack at transis in in good. Okay. One more question coach. We appreciate the time. Have you been in touch with Habib and all the from your end as he told you? Hey, keep these two or three months ready for me coach when we'll be back because that's like one big mystery that will kind of unravel a lot of people's careers. He holds he holds all the main cards. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I've been in touch with them. He was very he was pretty per Kane. I mean, these guys are like brothers. So he was very very concerned. You know, he was very concerned. And you know, he's let me know what's going on with Kane houses feeling komo's I'm so earth. You know, he's devastated. And he goes, I don't know what to say, I go have the part of the likely choose, you know, you can't win them all and then sometimes we get are asking for real. Sometimes we things happen. And we've been in all of them you and this is just another journey for us. You know? And this is not the last time as a coach that I'm gonna see something like this happening at all. And you know, there's some. Get our asked me like I said other times speak things happen the times judges taken away from us the time's referees. Do you know? I it just it's our sport, you know. And so, yeah, he he understands his I understand coats and part of our journey and with him. He's he's not gonna come back. As of what I know right now from what he told me until his teammates are out of out of suspension. Also, and he's very clear on on the Vada. He inked binding Nevada. What they did was wrong trying to get him to do anti bullying when he was limping bullied all he did was basically put the bullying these place for being bullied, all those months. And now, you want him to do anti bullying, and yet you acknowledged that it was that that was bullying because you said you wanna try to stop fighters from being able to do the thing antics that that Connor was what this is freedom of speech it hit five or six whatever the hell they want. You can't control that you know. So but here they're not punished. I be five hundred thousand dollars to boot. And then to top it off his his teammates only went in to to try to see what they do to help them. They didn't swing nobody. So so his cousin joke. Somebody top of the cage. Connors Papa the cage and his cousin. Not even looking at honor. Conner looks at him. Takes a swing at him cracks in the eye gives him a black eye. So now that's a fight going on. So Zubaira goes in looking all over the place nine only what the hell is going on and Connor sees him coming and he takes a swing at him. And I'll both of those guys get suspended for a year and twenty five thousand dollars in. Oh, it's so happy. It's like, no. That's not right. If anybody's hit been fired the longest sit have been happy. But no have you guessed the less of the fine. So he he will not fight until his his teammates off suspension with so be Tober November. So knowing how strong he is. And will he is? And I support it. He ain't gonna fight to Tober November. I support better hundred percent you have to stand on. And you can't allow something like that to have. And I you know as much as I hate it. 'cause I love Vegas. That's my favorite all-time place to go where if I don't wanna work someone's corner, they're fighting and biggest I'm nominating myself or find a way to go because I love the camper. So for me because I want to go to all the time for flights. That's my favorite place to go in but hub, even going. That's part makes me sad. But I understand his reasoning and I support that one hundred percent and as long as they don't do anything to to to to do what they did to him. I stand behind him on him never fighting never Vegas again. I approve of that, you know for me. Sorry. All right, coach we'll end with that. Thanks so much for the catch up. It's always great to to see what's the latest with you. And so we appreciate your time. All right. Thanks, guys. Thanks for all, right. Great evening. Bye. Bye. Follow him on Twitter at aka Hof. We'll be right back after this break, folks. Leo the stretch marks only underbelly of the MMA community. But hey stretch marks. So the new TAT's they are gorgeous towards and goes. 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Ep. 2,985: Is a 'BMF' title cool?, Bellator's notable signings, UFC Mexico City preview

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Ep. 2,985: Is a 'BMF' title cool?, Bellator's notable signings, UFC Mexico City preview

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UFC ON ESPN plus seventeen to look forward to answer handsome newsmen nuggets however it is a refreshing week goes where we don't have to talk about like the the big big controversies diversities usually when fighters are getting in trouble and when they do brushing law yeah something that's something to do with the legend so it's kind of refreshing like I we got some notes here of what we can go through and and give some other fighters love when a lot of the times we're spending time saying yeah man so listen. He's going to have to get an attorney attorney and should he gets to spend in what the state of New York or the State of Florida in every sport though by the way when it happens in. MMA people lose their minds but it happens in every sport. It's just unfortunate. Yeah it sure is we're talking. NFL Boy would we be talking about injuries. Oh man there's the cow. That's their biggest problem right now with everything they're doing the protect the quarterback and they're still losing quarterbacks Sharara. They're dropping like flies all right folks so buckle up. It's Yummy junk radio show on again on a Thursday and here we go fans listen if you're looking for sports podcasts outside the box but the topic is trending and all of the people speak their minds listen to our brothers and sister over at four the wind podcast on Itunes stitcher an popular up and the catch up with the latest news and golf check out the Ford press podcast by Golf Week as a matter of fact to see all the USA Today network work podcasts including podcast from NFL and NBA go to podcast dot us later day Dot Com Ios you and I are not afraid to exploit the fact that we love to eat so I say we go in the order it should be we're going to start off with the news nuggets first. That'll be our appetizers and then we'll get to the main course. UFC ON ESPN seventy why always rushing to get to the big news but again no one messed up this week no one ran afoul of the law or nothing like like that so it's refreshing to just hit the news. I think a few people may have messed up though with a lot of smack talk and really can't man Jeremy Stevens oh well how many I hear this. Yes ooh. We've seen what your ears done. The people sometimes now bandit he's been on the other side of that as well yeah but I don't know if you WanNa go that far but we'll get to all right there you go so what I wanNA start off with is how about the UFC applying for the trademark of the baddest motherfucker. Ah I mean okay so you'll see to forty four the main event is hormones versus the ideas nobody would disagree that they are bad motherfuckers however the NFC is going to actually create a belt for this you know the UC usually likes the headline big events especially like New York with title-fights well. They don't even have a title fight so so far who knows who knows what might happen with Kamara become but they have been actually selling this fight as the main event being versus mass. Everybody's excited to see it. Everybody's going nuts over it. It's a west coast gangster against an east coast gangster. There's lots of storylines in fact tonight. Goes in New York actually can have a press conference. They don't why it's going to be there as well. However you know nobody. Nobody's really anticipating much in terms of you know trash talker gangster talk or you know that that type of slag pushing matches. It seems like these guys are such Oh. Jeez that they're just gonNA leave it to the battlefield and they they really don't need to pronounce just how bad they are. Everyone knows how bad they are. Each Other knows how bad they are. That's the respect it's kind of weird though right because Muslims pretty funny when he when he gets into that mode lately he's been pulling back back a little bit when you talk to him. The smack talk is unique because I don't think he does it with the intention of being funny. I think he just Kinda is the way he is right and and they did. This is very similar in the sense that he'll say things that I don't even think he realizes make us laugh but they do. I think they have the potential to do something like that but he's half asleep half the time though yeah yeah and then you Kinda have to bring it out of him a little bit same with Mazda. All you gotta just ask them. The right questions does this. This is almost seem like the million dollar belt to you kind of wrestling more built the hardcore bell one of those like. I don't know are they are. They actually going to build a belt for it. They are going to build the belt but this whole trademark thing like Lebrun and Taco Tuesday on that one. I mean you know the the other day I was. We're talking about the octagon. Girls and that's really the proper way to call them that but they're ring card girls. I mean it's not a ring. Yeah I get it. It's an octagon but it just doesn't feel right because they've trademarked the octagon as well so you know I remember back in the eighties. Eighties Pat Riley the coach of the Lakers he trademarked three peat like all that stuff so silly to me this time we're even looking to do our off-guard series as in if we're in a gym that's playing music. Oh well you know the music might pick up and there's copyright claims of that may come on man. It's it's we're just doing a video. The ninety second can video with a fighter whatever the background enough already nobody tuned in to listen to the song and get off on the song they're getting on the interview so that type of thing and the trademark and you know what. I mean these these copyrights. I don't know what about. Let's get ready to run ball. I mean yeah. I don't mind not one but TACO Tuesday day. Come on like you need more money. You really do see what what do you think their play was here. I think you think this is going to be so big that maybe that's their play. This thing's going to be bigger than we thought like. We're going to get some of the other bad asses into the mix and maybe throw him in there. Maybe remember hardcore belt. We'll give it its due. I think this was the late nineties early. Two thousands people actually looked forward to that to that match up well. I guess my first question would be the anytime the bass motherfucker belt is defended. Does it have to go five rounds 'cause if that that's the case then. I think it's silly. Why put extra mileage on fighters for about that doesn't really mean anything or are you getting reebok money? Maybe explaining it. Let us know whether it's a joke that we can all kind of jump on with and laugh about for a little bit or if this is something that's going to stay well thick. GonNa do that on ESPN true but every time going with B. M. F. Yeah but well it will it will be view so I think on the paper view. That can be a little bit more flexible. I plus whether it's you know we always circle back. The Disney and I know Disney doesn't get too crazy about at bombs but regardless I will say this if it became something that was as big as the million dollar belt in and you tax the million dollar prize to it. What what I'm scared of is more fighters. GonNa WanNA fight for that than the actual world title. I think your goals should always be to be the best in the business to be a world champion. Get Kim paper viewpoints become your own millionaire agree not a millionaire by title all right so I yeah that that's what they did and and good luck with that one now Mazal India's why aren't people excited about tonight's press conference usually. I don't know if they're GONNA show up. You can't wait to hit that stream it well. I think they'll show for this one. Yeah you would imagine right but I mean both guys do have that history of I think last time didn't mas well. Just not WanNa go against the Bananas Grin donate if he shows up he's showing up late. I don't know I think it's just because both both you guys have just been kind of chill and they've actually shown somewhat respect towards each other which is kind of weird so I think it's still going to be be funny. 'cause really when gangsters all you gotta do is ask them. The right question and things can turn around really really fast. What is the right. Questions are key question that you know. Can I think that West Coast East Coast thing can kinda light them up a little bit okay. I think that would be funny. wrapping 'cause they yeah because they both agree that the the other guy is. Kinda Oh gee and and they represent whatever it is they stand for so they're not going to disagree on that. I think if you ask him anything about skills I got are gonNA GONNA say hey come on now. You'RE GONNA find out so I think you need to touch on something else about. WHO's The a side yeah. That's perfect or something like that. So I got the question George junk radio. I was just wondering who's the side this for handmade. Who's the thing and Dana don't feel. Don't feel shy about you. Know Timing and you ask that question and you deserve the bill because talk about nate at least until November I remember nate but I know hey and he would give you a look with a smile but that's mile for sharing George mother. If you'll know exactly what you're trying to do I donate the is will catch on but I know hey would catch on nothing along with being instigator feel like an instigators also the guy where if you're all camping and you gotta start how fire I guess usually starts the fire. He figures out a way all right. How about this again. I'm having fun. Just we're GONNA decompress and have fun hitting these news nuggets pita calls out the UFC for her be wrestling with the bear he did. This is a kid and I guess he's done it a few other times on social media and they say it's the same bear goes. I've watched it. It's playful to me. I mean what sucks is. The bears chained up. What's he supposed to be not chained up so that's something really bad can happen to anyone that might be around whether it's filming or or to. ABIB themselves I'm. I'm pretty sure that berries is not the type. That's going to just leave humans behind but at the same time I think this is the reason that the bear just can't be free either the Burgess. This can't be off the air yeah. I'm probably the last guy to ask about this because I don't really know too much about this but just being a normal human being looking at something to me looks like almost like the bears have fun to be honest but I guess I in this day and age. I get that but you have to remember like does it do that. Lives in in another country knows about happening in another country. They have different ways of viewing things pita. I think sometimes sometimes needs to chill and I I think for them to be out in the news. They have to do stuff and I think sometimes they push just a little bit too much. I don't know about this man. It's some he's been doing since he was a kid. The bear seems fine to me but but ever how serious do you think the UC takes us not serious at all well Yeah No. I think that's the best way to do it. Because the more serious you do consider the more you put it out there. The MORE IS GONNA keep circling back. The Dana White's good is just over the top statement. Yeah I see your King. Here's my advice you know what I mean and then after that whatever but maybe they might use the footage footage right. Maybe they won't use it. Yeah the YOU HAVE C. But they're not gonNa tell her beep stopped doing it or we're not. GonNa let you fight yeah and if they do I think I think it's something along. The lines like we wouldn't be mad at you. If that was the last time he did it but yeah I mean yeah. You're right. It looks like the bears having fun and it looks like it looks like it's playful to me so i. I don't know maybe maybe maybe I like an insensitivity chip but I'm telling you man. I stuff like this drives me nuts. I can bear it all right. David Branch got suspended so I can bury David. Parents got suspended so did Sarah Freighter and so did a few to other fighters Eastern European. one of the guys was the one that fought Greg Hardy earlier this year and the most notable names but you know at one time Dare David David Branch gives me was a champ champ over W. S. o. f. now known as Pal Abella tour more than anything does it is along the line of sorry now known as PF L. isn't it now just more surprising that fighters are trying to test you. SORTA like you said is pretty talk beat unless you're really rich and elaborate but I you know that's what surprises me the most. I wish well there probably is but I wish we can take a look at all all of them and just see what is it that they have in common because if you look at David Branch it's not like David branches on the cusp of title or something or anything. I just need this one thing that put me over the edger feature like a T. J. dillashaw right. He's just trying to hold onto what what's his He's more of a guy that seems like he's closer to the end of his career. Maybe he's looking for ways to maybe things just aren't recovering as fast as they used to but I want to see what that spectrum is like. What are things that these guys have in common because it's just it really does seem like they're all over the place? They're foreign fighters their American fighters that doesn't seem to matter I don't know and a few of them have bounced back. Nicely Alvarez who will touch on and just the second he's over. We're at one championship. I think he's making some dough. I heard when John Lineker had his last problems with UFC. Same thing offers came in and apparently he signed something lucrative. I've heard heard of another well-known. UFC fighter who right now is on the cusp of getting a title shot who's been offered pretty good money bell tower and then of course bell towards paid well for Machida Casaus. I I what I'm saying. There are options if you I guess WanNa go somewhere words strict but right now at nowadays to cheat with you Sada in the picture picture. You're dumb. If you think you can get it past them and you're all so dumb if you unintentionally did something and couldn't get it past them in other words a supplement. You know where it really really is tainted. I mean come on the resources. They're all you to do is make a call. Read the label able and and say listen. This is what I have. I'm sending you a sample or you know what I mean. I think you can really look after yourself and not get caught that way and as far as trying to cheat you you gotta be rich and having elaborate scheme and I don't think anyone news these really in that in that position. I mean e x I mean sorry. Maybe there's the five percent that can afford that. Ah that need to do that but not any of the fighters we named and how long do you do it for you. Know Are you trying to get away with one fight or trying to get away with the next ten. N I mean that's a lot to ask for right because we met Ocean's eleven. YOU SADA is random. You saw a contest you today and knock test you for a whole year or they can test you today and be back back in two days so you really can't you don't you don't get a rhythm for when like okay you know not not like back in the day when you. Kinda knew centered more around your fight and you could blow up if you wanted to you know throughout your camp here. It's a lot different so I don't know I see this and I'm like come on guys and gals breath Eddie Alvarez. I dropped his name a second ago. Did you know that he can posted never fighting again after that. I injury in one championship. Look at Look Pretty Pretty Bad we've seen quite a few of as of late injuries but that would suck but if you look at Eddie Alvarez and what he's accomplished I guess quite a career would hurt to go away but yeah he's done quite a lot of things over different organizations just having to titles alone one bill that's pretty big in itself and after seeing what happened to Todd Duffey and not knowing all the facts it just didn't look as gruesome as others but without knowing all that maybe we want to just his top breaks and figure out what his injury was. You know in the end because you're right. All it is is the nail grazing scratch a corner or something like that. Ah I think people think well how deep that the thumb in the eye socket in that determines the injury and that's not always the case now detached retinas. get solved a little bit really when you think about when you go back that's what ended sugar as career attached retina now. That's like a wet nine month process though yeah look at Michael Biz being what he's had to go through in his career yeah all right speaking of one championship Angela. Lee says she wants one championship. stateside however you're not in the actual continental states. She wants it in her native Hawaii however she's also willing to step aside for her brother. That's cool and it is that makes it a lot of sense because so her brother has gold there as well and Angelina been since day one when she signed with with one championship. She's been trying to get them to go to Hawaii so she can finally talk them into it for her step aside for her brother who she's fought on the same card as him before and that's what it hasn't gone. It hasn't gone well for them. I think they made an agreement that they're not GonNa do that. Ever again. Heard the pet is brothers do that once yeah. That's I think the Lausanne brothers did it and I think they liked it right. There's a few that they do together and actually like it but I think that's that's pretty cool to do something like that and I think it makes the most sense but who knows if they'll ever come back. I think that that's the one time where you just say like it didn't work out time but let's just do it again. 'CAUSE member bell toward debuted in Hawaii last year in December number and here we are in September and I don't think I've heard of plans this year yeah and you know how it is when a promotion goes to a certain city or certain part part of the world that they've never been if you ask them when you come back they say well. We're hearing now. We're at the press conference. You know we're going to try and come here. Once a year. Man People were going nuts and and then you look at it you know like Holy Shit. There's a the the world is big and there's a lot of other cities that wants to stop there and we just don't have enough events and sometimes it's really every two years. You're I go what if she plays that and then this yesterday awhile because one championship doesn't travel the United States they do Asia you know what I mean and and if they do come to the United States they're they're gonNA hit major cities pop in pop out and that might be it for the year or or what but it's not like they're gonNA do a a seventeen city tour yeah all right now which over to another one of the big promotions Bela Tor Erik Goto Peres assigned with Bell Tower. That's pretty cool right BEC Rawlings. She's doing a belt or to twenty one again not the not the biggest stars not May. Just you know what they've punched the clock. They've been in the sport ugly to Peres at one point. The thought maybe he might be their guy. You know we'll talk by year and he may. He may actually be there guy in just a second but I remember they. I thought you know the data go to Peres and then BEC Rawlings. She's done a lot you know in her career. I in the sea and then at bare knuckle. She was kind of really really blossoming but she's back in. MMA so good on bell tour to keep shoring up different types of ranks within the Promotion Kansas be superstars. You also need names aims to put over the young that you're going to nurture and make a future superstar out of. I think that's a great signing so long as they're not overpaying for him. If you look look at his record of you look at BEC Rawlings records they're not the most sexiest records and not terrible records or anything like that but if you look at them both they're both very marketable right. He's got legiter mask. You can market to the Hispanic market BEC rawlings just kind of edgy. She has great interviews and she's fun to watch watch so good signings songs. You're not over paying for these fighters. 'cause we want to stick around. We want people to stick around exactly and like I say I think what's GonNa wind up happening. is they'll go out. There and you can market them. You know certain parts of the United States just give people tune in but more than anything watch within their the second third fight. They're going to be the ones that tests for younger talent in the Bell Tower. Younger talent can get can get over in win then it just catapults pulse them better than another. Joe Blow you need you need normal sacrificial lambs in a way as they're kind of on the downside of their career and guess what if if they pull it off and go on a three five win streak hey remember. Ito super-popular luck. He's doing great over here at hand and the next thing you know maybe themselves a star or are just somebody that's market. We need that first and second fight of the night to have people that we remember yeah right and I think that's what beltre's lacking is the main event great but then after that you're Kinda like well. WHO's this guy. WHO's that guy and they're trying to build them while if you're going to build them use names like these I agree. There is one more name out there Nick Newell. He's fight he. He signed a multi fight contract with bell tour. What are your thoughts on that. And where do you stand with nick new. I think Nick Knowles proven himself throughout the years I I just when he said he was done. I thought it was a good time for him to go. watching him fight just engaged awhile back. Doc was just now granted just engages done that to all the people but I I remember that feeling that night and I wasn't too down with that. IM- Bela Tor I mean yeah he can be competitive and again. He's a name it just it depends on net. I feel like nick is always one fight away from just calling it a career. Yeah you know I think with Nick. There comes a lot of notoriety for being you know a fighter with one hand a but he's got enough wins over credible fighters where you're like well. We're not just signing Xining because of that we're signing because we think he's an actual talent however I think most people have already been able to see that he's I I don't I don't believe in it boy. He can prove me wrong. I'll be the first to congratulate him but I just don't believe it will be a world champion. Bell torches the same way. I felt like he wouldn't be a world champion at and you'll see now granted. He got to a world title fight in credit there that was his first loss just engaging who knows it wasn't just engaged someone else. Maybe would have been able to do that but you're right when he exited the sport then that would have been great however. I just think that more than likely there's probably some dough that's available for for him and his family. You know what I mean and then when he goes on does something else you know who starts a new career. You'll at least have the little that little cushion to buy a house or maybe to sell up set up a college fund for his. You know whatever gym yeah something like that So. I can't hate on them for continuing the career and I can't hate on torture for giving them the chance but I don't think it's like an exploitation or nothing like no not at all a fact very good at promoting their athletes in a certain way really making them shine to story like New Orleans. They could do a really good stuff with that completely agree all right now. We're put that to the side and let's Talk Doc. Some bites all right goes fights coming up you have see on ESPN plus seventeen. I got some odds in my hand and they got all the pertinent info four at this weekend's event so they are going to be back in Mahyco Mexico City to be more exact and if you go to ever may junkie there's a couple of tabs at the top one of them's called schedule if you hit it and then scroll down and look for UC on ESPN plus seventeen when we're not around we're there for you all right this is available on the tablet and on the smartphones so basically Zimmerman Chehab but you all that information information I think inflammation sorry all all that information is right there for example when the star George a PM Eastern on ESPN plus. Okay that's the main card what about the prelims also on ESPN plus five PM Eastern right there. I'm looking at all the match ups. I know the first matchup of the night. It's going to be markle's. Mario vs cloudy is also another main. GonNa be rhetoric is Jeremy Stevens also know the the first I fight on the main card is going to be Martine Bravo versus Stephen Peterson and if you were to say well yeah what's the records. I'd say eleven in two thousand seventeen and nine because it's all laid out nicely so take advantage of that scheduled tab now getting to that. Yeah Yeh Rodriguez start at the top versus Jeremy Steven. What do these guys they don't. They're not fans each other. Apparently no I mean you gotta do something like that. If you're GONNA break if you're GONNA IF YOU'RE GONNA want to sell tickets. If you really want people to tune in for a main event but especially Jeremy Jeremy Stevens on his side man he was pretty brutal and but here's the thing of you know that kid you realize it's not really that much against the air. He's Kinda like that for everyone. You love to hear that you love to hear that this means a lot to him and for fighters to call their own shots that sort of thing that's like when he took when he called out connor honor that one time on days like okay connor kind of burned him when he when he came back but hey manny he stood up and who knows that could've worked out in his favor. Maybe it still works out to favor at one point in Congress career. Maybe somehow they make that fight happened but I. I'm kind of put me over the edge like I'm Kinda now very excited to watch that fight whereas before I was like all right. Let me know. Let me know what it's on all all come down on watch it. It'll be okay now. I kind of have to see it. Who Do you got of gone back and forth on this dude at one point breaking down their skill sets really I just went with how about I'm just going to go with the the hometown guy maybe that hometown advantages just enough to put him over over but Jeremy Stevens Dude. He's a nightmare and I think those are the type guys that give ear problems right. The guys'll come forward the guys that are that are very very aggressive. Your ear can knock you out with some pretty flashy stuff but he doesn't really have like that. One shot got knock out power and Jeremy Stevens does and I feel like as sloppy as you can get sometimes just throwing random things. I think that's that's where maybe Jeremy Stevens if he can just dial it back a little bit which he's done in the past when he does that. I think that's when he'll land those meaningful shots and maybe put your out yeah yeah plus your your had a Ko of the year last year. I mean nothing was beautiful. Losing that fight he was losing the fight was down three rounds the one and I believe he was down in that round around so he was basically ready to be anointed. The loser of that matches steady wins in here. We are the I was a year ago. So there's they off there and before that there was a layoff you know I don't know how much of that previously off you can attribute to being down three one and being down around five in without taking anything away from his Ambi- who's one hell of a fighter but still he just doesn't fight frequently and I just think Stevens is a veteran. He's seen a lot. I like Stevens in this matter of fact. I'm GonNa give you quick parlay if I may Stevens Esparza in Sergio Perez usually right here. Here's what this is. Usually a three teamer is if if you put a hundred bucks or ten depend or a thousand whatever your whatever you bet most people just go with one hundred it should pay six hundred but because this is a little bit of a big favorite it it might pay you about five hundred maybe four fifty or something like that but still. I I liked those three so you're welcome. Junky nation Stevens Esparza Uh in Sergio Pettis cosign on this the only brutal part about this parlane. You're a second ago. Why think ended up picking him on staff picks okay but I switchback yeah. I think I think I'm GonNA end up going Jeremy Stevens. If you look at Jeremy Stevens you gotta wait all the way to the main event. I hate that to win a parlay but yeah okay so you got Grosso. I agree with that. Are I mean the thing about Alexis having this conversation last night. I think she's good. She's getting better and better but really raid hands man she-she's boxing animal when she when she gets the fight into the ground and her stand up by the way has improved as well yeah. I just think that ground game wrestling might be the difference. I think it's too much and not only that once. She gets her down. I think she was gonNA keep her down. I think Alexa gross it would be better off in boxing Sergio Pettus. I'm down with that. I like that one yeah. It's not to jump the gun but yes so first of all. I am taking Stevens. I just think the the Veterans GonNa pull through. I think spars is GonNa win based on her grappling at some point against Alexa Grasso a little bit of control a little bit of ground compound and just impressing the judges that way if she spends more time on her feet though Alexa Grasso will lighter up and I'm anxious to see of the assassin baby. I think that's Brandon Marino nickname. I haven't scene invite too often lately if he can make a little bit of a comeback but he right now he's a little bit of an underdog and Irene Aldana. She can also hands too man. Yeah I love her. She's awesome. If if you look at this card though for as much as you have been to Mexico there's not that many repeat offenders here on this card and I always wonder because as ridiculous particulars as it sounds people know the altitude out there how brutal that can be. We've seen that happened to fighter and the air quality I wonder how the series won silver doom when his world title over Cain Velasquez. Everybody talks about sea level. Kane this Kane Kane Kane always had great wind and for one he got lit up to he was there two weeks before but that wasn't enough for beaver dam was out two months before yeah all right folks very happy today's MMA junkie radio so don't forget to have it locked in on junkie throughout the week end for this you've seon ESPN plus seventeen card follow us on twitter and Instagram Adamant George Abbott that would make a junkie radio and those we are out of your view champion and.

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Cormier, Masvidal, Stephens, Joey Diaz, Edwards, Hermansson, Kampmann, more

"Today's episode of Area Hawaii's. MMA show contains explicit language that may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised gentlemen welcome to camp back in your life on this Monday September twenty third two thousand and nineteen plugging. Everyone America Honi hope opener doing well happy fall to you. Today is the first day of fall two thousand nineteen and what did you hear in beautiful and Exotic Bristol Connecticut. It's Balmy armie ninety degrees. I think it's like thirty three Celsius incredible. Where else would you rather be than right here right now. What an honor it is to be hosting this. Show for all of you on this great Monday afternoon about so much discuss coming up an entertaining event in Mexico City this past Saturday unfortunately it ended on a bit of Sour note an ugly note case. You missed it. Jeremy Stevens your Rodriguez main event. Everyone was looking forward to it. As the people's main event was the main event a lot not at stake it was Rodriguez his first time back in Mexico first time headlining a show in Mexico yet not and around four years and the fight lasts fifteen fifteen seconds accidental poke it seemed like Jeremy was trying very hard to fight through it her being the referee who has been criticised all a year long and often rightfully so I thought handled the situation very well. I thought he was on point. He was calm he was collected and Stevens just couldn't open his left eye and since then when people have been criticizing Stevenson calling him a coward this guy would like what forty or so fights on his pro record the guy who fights anyone anywhere anytime sometimes to his detriment and you're criticizing him. You're questioning his manhood. You're questioning his heart. It's a it's a shameful situation even more shameful is the fact that he was showered like buy beer by what who knows what was thrown at him. People were coming down from the top of the standards at that arena in Mexico City to get had a better look at him to throw things at him. I hope those people on this Monday afternoon Monday morning. I hope those people are embarrassed. I hope they are ashamed. I hope they are never allowed back at any. You have see event. I hope they're never allowed back to that arena because no athletes should be treated that way no athlete no fighter no entertainer no performer. Who are you to throw things. I know you're upset. Guess what there are. Eleven love and other great fights on that card. You got your money's worth all right. We know you're upset. The Guy's not a coward for people to throw. I'd never seen like that and we could split hairs. All we want to twenty nine I have I've never seen a seen at event. That was disgusting. That was classless. That was shameful. That was pitiful us any adjective you want. I was embarrassed for those people and I hope they're embarrassed are so themselves so Jeremy Stevens deserves better. Hopefully he's okay. Hopefully he's not seriously injured and hopefully we get that fight in the very near future. Hopefully they just run it back in a month author so and we can find out who's the better man. I was looking for to Jeremy. Stevens told us last week that he spent six weeks in Mexico. He's been thirty thousand dollars on this training camp. You Vicky wanted this fight. The last fifteen seconds you think he wanted to just get his show money. You think he was looking for a way out once he got to the cage. Come on use commonsense. Just completely idiotic takes takes. I see all day long enough of it. These are fighters or do you think they're afraid of. They do for a living think. They're afraid they're actually in the cage at this point. Oh on second thought I'd like a way out out come on. Let's do better so anyway that was disappointing but like I said the rest of the card was great. Esparza Grosso tremendous fight the return a brand Marino tremendous tremendous fight every now. Donna looked tremendous Stephen Peterson. Where did that come from these seventh spinning backs. Ko and you have see history. These are just some of the notable wins or results. I should say because there was a draw in their brand Marino which I'd like to see again against Oscar Askarov so there was a lot of course last week as well we had the UFC two forty four press conference Nathan Diaz for Hamas Waddell. A lot of people thought it was a lot of people thought it didn't live up to the hype. Well guess what I told you listened to the reporters on Wednesday. That was going to be just that they're both counterpunchers. When it comes to press conferences they're both the kind of guy who likes to sit back. Relax and sort of react to the other but in this case when you have two guys were sitting back and relaxing. You'RE NOT GONNA get a lot of fireworks so a lot of quotes but you got maswadeh. I'll looking like that. You got the great scene gene behind us with the bridge. You Got New York City. You got some questionable questions by media and I see a lot of people criticizing the media like Oh do better. Those people weren't real media. How about we criticize is the people who let those people in the US should do better as far as who they let into these things now in New York mid week I get it. There's not a lot of 'em media there it. It was what it was. Let's not get all crazy. It's going to be a great fight November second and later today. We're going to get a great interview from as well. Let me run out today's lineup so I'm getting all fired up. I'm looking forward to talking to our first guest of the day this one of my favorite lineups of the year and I sense the excitement from view I came into Bristol today fired up. I got a lot to say my beloved buffalo. Bills are three you know. What more can you like. I mean really Daniel. Cormie is going to join us in his first interview since his loss forty one. Is he going to keep on fighting. Is he going to fight steep amiach. How is he feeling these days a month or so later we'll find out from DC in his first interview. I sat down with House Thursday New York City for an interview about his past where he came from. I learned a lot about this man that I did not know before we'll run that entire interview on this show trust me. It's a different look a lot of interesting insight into the man they call game bread the pride of the three zero five Miami Cuba or yes anyway. Jack Hermansson is going to join us at two forty five he headlines lines the US's debut in Denmark this Saturday. What a great car. This is littered with names from top to bottom interesting fights interesting personalities Mark Madsen a Olympic silver medalist. It's going to make his debut. You've got the return of Nicholas Daulby Jack Shores on the card Landau Veneta MARCECA's. There's a lot to light from this card Saturday afternoon. It's headlined by that man who goes up against Jared Cananea the near. We'll talk to him. Joey Coco is going to join us. You're all very excited about this. He'll join us at around two twenty looking forward to catching up with him talking to him. He's a huge. MMA Fan a Superfan from Cuba and knows a lot about Maswadeh Romero all those guys but it's a big fan you know about him. It'd be grit mentality the the Church of what's happening now. Joe Rogan podcast all that stuff Joey Diaz making his debut on the program. We'll talk to Martin Kampman the face of Danish. MMA for all those years most wins as far as Danish fighters are concerned inside the octagon eleven wins in the UFC have talked to him and while he's going to be a big part of the show this Saturday we'll talk him Leon Edwards. Where does he factor into the whole scenario barrio. One seventy will catch up with rocky Edwards. Is he going to fight for the belt is he. GonNa Squeeze in there who the heck knows and Jeremy Stevens will join us at one twenty five talk about his eye and what happened in that. I mean event on Saturdays. We have our first guest. is she ready to go okay but first let us go to the facetime machine or skype machine. Oh facetime machine and talked to our our first guest of the day she had a massive win on Saturday against Alexa Grasso. A lot of people are mean to her as well but she deserved to win that fight to rounds to one great fight great performance from Carlos Bars. She's he's kind enough to join US right now from. I believe the airport in Mexico. Is that accurate Carla. Why appreciate you doing this very much. Congratulations on the win. How are you feeling physically less than forty eight hours later. I've been better but usually after every fight. I get banged up a little bit. my apple roll over on in pretty good would exactly happen to the elbow. Like what kind of injuries did you sustain. I didn't go and get x-rays or anything or I but it's already feeling a lot better. I've been doing it to me. I think maybe discount like a dislocation. I'm thinking and just kind of like right now. Nothing crazy I know looks pretty gnarly on the video though yeah pretty gnarly I think that's an understatement it was it was shocking. Lucky to watch. It reminded me. I don't know if you've ever saw Benson Henderson versus Donald Sharoni one when Benson was like Ben and that's where the name came from. That's what it reminded. Me Of. Arms Aren't supposed host a bend that way. Could you tell us what's going through your mind. When this is happening I mean I was. I knew it was suckered really titanic and I was just thinking like Oh my God like should I tap tap. I was like no no like I was like. Keep wanting twenty. Something move like trying. I wiggle out like try anything. You can't get out of this and you know. Fortunately I was able to spin out it was still even locked in a little bit after spun out but but you know fortunately how close were you to tapping late super it was it was obviously lots of joint. Have you ever felt anything like that before. Even practice roll like have you ever felt your arm ben like that and the feelings that come as a result no never I've never felt anything like that but in in the heat of the moment you know the adrenaline with the you know just in a fight you know I'm packing always have early but in a fight is one of the things like you know. He just Kinda got. Did she surprise you in the third round because in addition to that she really came on strong like I think there's a case to be made that that if this was a pride flag maybe she would want because they would score the end of the fight more so than the beginning of the fight. Did you think that she was gonna come on based on the first two rounds. Did you think she was is gonNA. Come on strong the third. I was really surprised I think she was down around you. You have to keep it. Keep close a couple of times but yeah I felt like I had them. You know for sure and she just came like a storm that third round to do think that they would score to draw. Did you think that she might have gone ten eight in the third. It's Kinda hard to tell when you're gonNa make you know like especially in your hometown. I never actually knocked down even though she can be pretty close. I was hoping you decisively. You won the first and second going into that third. You thought you had the first two down how I felt yeah but you know just being someone else's hometown you never know but like I felt that I decisively won the first two rounds you know not by the margin that she won the third round no not at all but I definitely felt like I won the first two. What is it like as an athlete. You fight your heart out your your arm. Ben's that way. You're in pain. You're getting you gain punched in the face of the third round. She's coming on strong. You do rounds you win a fight on enemy territory with the altitude all that stuff and then you have to do with booze you have to deal with people like disrespecting you and you're you're having your moment and you. We know that you're not the fan favorite in that case but it's almost to the point where like you almost have to apologize. What does that mean. What does that do for you. Afterwards kind of broke my heartbeat because I've always been respectful election. I respectfully leading up to the fate. I've always kind of had the Mexican fan base land families behind me and just hear them like stone negative and booing me and not letting me talk like other fellings. You know just kinda disrespected EH I. I didn't do anything wrong bad. It's one of the most annoying things about close fights in mixed martial arts situation where the fans may be upset with the judges but they take it out on you in the post fight interview right it makes no sense and then you're left to the deal with the heat and from what I understand. I know it wasn't as bad as Jeremy Stevens but the people throw things at you as well as you were leaving think slow down a little bit to take a couple pictures with people I usually do in. You know just say hi to people but they were turned. Rush me out of there on my way. Out Woman jumped a whole cup of beer on top of me. You know it was just it was really sad like just to experience something like probably one of the low points in my career. It was a really hard for so you're walking out and they poured beer on top of your head. Yeah it was like right before you go under the tunnel. Donald like some some guy like dunk like like one of the security was with me. Kenny trying to cover me and my walk me out in. Just you know some of the fans were just pretty ruthless. They were yelling things that you as well as you were walking back. Some of the fans were like being pool. ooh wanting to take pictures but some of them were just staying me things and bullying and like you said it's not my call you know and not that. I felt that I did win but you know they can't. They can't take it on the fighters because we're literally. They're just doing our job and when you have this kind of take away your joy like a big win like I said enemy territory like did not allow you to fully appreciate it. Enjoy the moment afterwards honestly when I went back to my locker room. I I just felt really bummed out. I almost felt like just wanting Friday and he died because which is a crazy feeling after a win. You know it's like I couldn't even enjoy just because I like literally just been attacked on a hard feeling feeling even though we get punched in the face every day now if it was just it was hard to take him. Did you see Alexa to the fight no she. She kinda rushed off a pretty fast after the decision that wind to shake your hand. You know shoes nothing but respectful. I've had a having gone to see her. I was just wondering because I've seen her say in the post fight scrummage on social media afterwards that she believes she won the fight which has every right to but I. I wonder if you feel like you're not getting the credit that you deserve for that performance. I can see how she feels like that. Especially when you have the crowds so hard behind you kind of you know like saying saying that the decision was bad but I think anyone who's kind of logical and actually knows about this word like knows I mean. I think she you know she was down to rally. No matter how much you dominate that's not enough sometimes how was the I was dealing with the altitude. How is it fighting over there. Dan Lewis arrest money even going up the stairs. It's kind of hard but I was training altitude not for a month. It's out in Mexico City for two weeks so I feel that I make some good adjustment but it definitely is hard to put that outfit. I'll a fight linke would for sure so considering that and also the fan reaction afterwards. Do you have any interest in fighting in Mexico ever again the most I definitely would love to fight on here because the fans are passionate and like I said a lot of Mexican band. Dan Support me but I definitely would not want to come out here in by local again. That's one hundred percent now just because because they're they're very much against you in that in that regard right definitely. I mean even if I thought anyone else thinking. I'd have a lot of word but it was just it's a rough one. Each fans back fighters still much amazing but it can also be a bad so that's now two wins in a row for you after the loss to titanic Suarez around a a year or so ago. Did you do anything. Did you do anything differently after that fight. Did you make any changes to get back on track here because that's what was your second loss in a row so it seemed like okay everyone talking malar l. or maybe we saw the best of Carlos bars a banal of sudden very impressive victories in my opinion. Did you change anything afterwards. Actually I'm really small for the divisions side chiefs. I started like I n I started like put on muscle. I mean a lot of adjustments to in my training like with my Jitsu. I think a lot of people saw that I lost fights off my on my left and I need that I mean it appoints. It may be comfortable. They're like just get comfortable being uncomfortable big by weaknesses strengths and I feel like I mean a lot of improvement it. Are you surprised that John Way lease the champion of your way class right now not super surprised because I saw her fight in person. I saw her face. You should torres. As and I was super impressed because I thought he should know she's. She's really good fighter. things just seemed to come out of nowhere. Just like Lego storm really doc doc like beyond. Any kind of sport is that you think you kinda nowhere. Boom is nowhere up and comer and do you suspect that she's going to go on a on a long run as champion or do you think she's more of a flash in the PAN armed with her performance day. I can definitely see or being camper wild but honestly when I when I just got josh when I was like shoot. Let me check or not doesn't first-round so you never know. When would you like if everything's Okay with your arm. When would you like like to return. I was named maybe like I'd love to get on that. December thirties card or maybe like early January or something yeah that that would be a deal for not hurt Tikolo bedtime off and actually have quantum all right here on vacation and then had to treaty. What are you doing Guatemala just chilling out or something in particular. I am climate volcano the Waigel Katito volcano some to spend the night up. There were totally in my arms my legs these are good too. It's still K- declined with your arm like that. I mean I think like I hopefully it's all made I have concerns. I mean I'm not trying to you but you know it. Just seems like you might have a hard time gripping things arpaio. Hopefully I will need to like crawl to be lake dog now but I mean I think I can make it work. I tend to be all right. I'm pretty please tell me you're going with someone like you're going with a friend or somebody. Who's going to help you yeah my boyfriend okay good. Please take care of Carlo are do you have concerns that it's like legit you know injured or you tore ligaments or anything like that what do you what are you feeling right now toward Laghman fine I mean I'm in. I'm not really much pain unless I'm like like bending are like super. Voters honestly kills a lot better than it did. So you know I I think I think it's GonNa be good okay and just curious. Why did you go check. Check it L. like why don't you go to the hospital now in Mexico because I think they're gonNA do an X. Ray and I mean in all reality likes and I'm not going to get a surgery injury like nine need and nothing that's really going to change. I not do that. I've been I've had many injuries over tuning this loudly cube seniors so just time by if my habits surgery that he did okay and last thing thing. I've heard some people say maybe it's time now for Karla rose rematch. Maybe this is the right. What are you thinking. Who Do you want next. You like that idea anything on your mind through all my fights recruiting had like twenty three fights including my tough fighting swing four. I've never heard a remand so I definitely wouldn't mind rematch with. Anyone are now all for you time. Send them on the audio that were of the one that I want but honestly I'm down for. Whoever I always he's having never turned down a rare so forever because you think she greets in your fight right because you think she Greece in your fight Right Claudia. How did you think that she was greasing. Oh yeah like I still don't know the details of it and obviously like she wouldn't facing seizing on but that was I. I've been wrestling for so long beating like I know when someone's like like sweaty and I know that feeling like my arms terms of displaced living right off. They're like obviously I regret. I wish I would have said something because it's just all here's C. Now if that were to happen I'm I would definitely remarkable and you know it's out there now. I don't think that was the case. It would be the case again by the way how's the cookie situation in Mexico. Did you have any good ones so far. I've only had one one little that's it yeah. I definitely need to grab some more. There's more like There's more like a different type E street bond funds will like different pastries and stuff are more popular popularized here all right well. The cookies are well deserved. Please be safe out there. Okay don't do anything crazy sie. You've got an injured arm. You were just integrate fight. Enjoy your vacation congratulations on a very impressive win congratulations on winning your first fight of the night bonus. I'm sure that helps a little bit. It is low and looking forward to the next run all right. Thank you very much. Carlos safe travels to you there. She is Carlos Bars. The first ever you have see women's Straw champion big win for her her first fight of the night bonus her second performance bonus a big fight for her on Saturday big performance for takedown landed against Alexa Grasso thirty three take downs landed overall in her. UFC clear that type for most in the AFC women's strawwweight division history that's courtesy of ESPN stats and Info Group Andrew Davis providing us with our information each and every week on the program so that was a big performance. That was a big win in the combing event in a matter of moments. We're going to be joined by Jeremy Stevens who competed of course in the main event as I said at at the top of the show an ugly scene afterwards it lasted just fifteen seconds and there was an eye poke. Maybe even two eye pokes. Her Dean gave Jeremy Stevens a lot of time to recover the doctors came in the I couldn't open it appeared to be spasm being they called it off off. The fans are very upset throwing things at the cage throwing things all over the place throwing things at Jeremy Stevens just completely he made a brief comment afterwards courtesy of Care Brian. This is what your year Rodriguez had to say at the post fight scrum about the ending the unfortunate ending to that main event. She's going to keep the benefit of the doubt your mysterious. He only only wants to leave with with with dodd easiest mind with that. I don't know say that no doubt he's minus is him the only him you know he's the only one who knows feels you know. I never been puking the I in a fight but I have had a really bad I really bought. I you know on the front five my I was completely close. Night couldn't see nothing but I was willing to keep on going. You know not everybody's the same Idaho he was feeling so complete benefit of the doubt to Jeremy Stevenson. Let's see what happened and he's just you WANNA. Call me in the eye. Let's back from her five weeks in two weeks. Whatever I'll just scratch you rose the one man so that was the scene. Those were the words Saturday Saturday night from both year Jeremy Stevens. UC The patch on Jeremy Stevens left eye and again. I understand why the fans were upset. That was the main event I understand. They wanted to see their guy. You're Rigas I made event in Mexico hadn't fought in ten months last time he fought the amazing elbow like there was a lot of excitement it was it was pretty well attended event. I get where they're coming from. You can't act like that and to be honest. I think a lot of that reaction did come as a result of your Rodriguez is-is reaction. I think he was very fired up and get understandably so hard for me to put myself in his shoes so much pent up aggression and emotion and and just like the nerves and all that stuff that energy before big fight you could see. He was emotional having family there. He was amped up. He was excited and then the whole thing lines last fifteen seconds. You don't have an outlet outlet. You'll have a way to get it all out. So you're fired up. You're upset you're heartbroken you're mad and so he was mad and I think the fans saw him react that way and then they reacted the way in which they did and you saw him kind of stepped up Michael Bis being and I think that brought him back to Earth there because this big did not flinch credit the him for doing that so certainly an ugly scene. I really appreciate he's shape Jeremy Stevens taking out some time. A lot has happened in his life in the last forty eight or so hours and there he is kind enough to join US via skype Jeremy. How are you doing it and most importantly. How are you feeling on this Monday afternoon. Awhile rested Scott home late last night wake up in the morning and grab a coffee and do the show. How is your feeling is good freak accident like what happened in their scratch. A It is what it is. What I understand you went to the hospital afterwards correct yeah correct they. They want right to the emergency room. Mining Eighty specialists like doc or anything like that yeah it is Russia rights. What did they say about the the the scratch in any kind of injury that you sustained had to scratches on my is just like Oh like a bruise. I guess scratch a bruise laceration what they called it so nothing nothing major nothing. Permanently damage is weird and so right now. Are you in pain or does it hurt to like being the sunlight. How does it feel. I haven't really been in the sunlight is Kinda. Keep him some ashamed. Shade Don is a big thing other than that I had a they patched up. I didn't want anything like that or anything also saying they patched you know if you go to the doctor your hand messed up of course in a cast told me keep the kids off like twenty four hours and I just took the patch off swastikas on and all so they replayed the sequence a million times. It looked like he actually hit you in the right eye and then in the left is well. Is that what happened. Were you actually poked in. Both is yeah so okay balls. you know when I went back by by right. I was staying pretty bad. You know there. There was scratch on on that is well in it is it is what it is. You know this this weird free thing. I just remember coming down like this like three stooges in his fingers in my face like this. Do you think he did that on purpose. No of course not you know I. I hope people nine for people to nuts on. I've been you know I've had a broken. Orbital is a bad acid. Donald CERRONE IAN was able to fight you know just or than things where you get you get glaze and it's an it's an eye boat. I mean like a paper cut man Shit. The Shit hurts. You know when you're is always very sensitive you know he he definitely to is. I've I've fought with a rogue normal like I said you know that was that was painful but I was able able to see a little bit of blurred vision but in this WanNa just this is crazy right. both is actually you know your hands philosophy closed. This one's anxiety in the fight. We didn't even get started. You know he won kick in you know next thing in overtime to exchange them which one hurt more the right of the left. You know it's the last one was a lot lot more painful. The rival scratched and I I know no like when I got there too and I noticed that when I was trying to read off them is were burning both both visor burning both my left eye when you're in that situation before they announced that the fight is off. You could tell like everyone's watching you right in there with her dean. The fight just started. The crowd is starting to lose his patients. What kind of pressure is that on you. I feel for the fire in that situation because everyone wants you to shake it off and be tough and just go back out there and fight because everyone paid to watch his main event and they want to see the payoff and you're in that moment where the entire Rina's just watching you and praying for you to get better. Do you feel that pressure. Are you trying to like force yourself to just open your eyes to get better and it's not an it's like this this battle internally with your body like please just open so I can see but also I can't see and I got all these people that are kind of like putting this pressure putting is I'm here. Are you feeling that struggle when you're in there no not at all you know at the moment of this like what the heck is really going on with my. Id Is it just wasn't relaxing thing. I remember the doctor confident until you're relaxed. Some like a wish I could do that. You know what I'm trying to break over here. Same thing you know I got hit. The nuts my last fight really hard. I had to take almost five five minutes to to Kinda Ariku on trying to recoup within the amount of time and in recovery which is unfortunate. It couldn't continue I get it you know I totally I totally get it able to see a fight. How did you feel the referee Herb Dean and the ringside physician. How did you feel they handled the situation. Her was a man who had offices telling me that you're like mcdonagh water over here you know he's like the doctors came in and he's like. I still have like amendment and a half of my cool lately recovered. Take the full five. I didn't know what what time it was because I couldn't even. I couldn't even see some senator waiting for the for the time inherited a hell of a job eighty dollars or one of the best amber frey is ever in the game on he. He truly was experienced. scores wanting free free. Thank we know great so they waved off the fight. I mean did you. Did you agree with it. In that moment like there was no way that you can continue. Let's they give you five minutes giving a little bit more time some water rinse off but you can't do that in a fly just right off ops heads. Let's see if he in seventeen twenty seconds something like that. You know it's it's weird brawl. You know I'm an unfortunate I I spent money can't money's money's money and can coach spend time away from their families up until the the greatest shave ever. You know you you know I everybody wants to fight. This fight needs to happen. You know that it's word shaving was just one of them. Frequently little things it's not wasn't on purpose. I know that on Duri fighter you know we need to run this back. We saw the footage of you leaving the cage being shielded by security in my opinion the ugliest one of the ugliest scenes that we've ever seen a UFC event. I mean you're just being pelted with things showered by beer. God knows what else people coming coming down throwing things at you. What is it like for you. In that moment you have any idea what's going on where you hit where you hurt by. Any of this felt pesos rose and definitely had some drinks before. I ended up in the back. You know this I expected that from the fans you know whether I win. There'd Herod Hostile Territory before Brazil. You know whether I would not allow by the worse you know. Is this again people pay. Their hard earned money to to watch a fight. I knew they were going to be rowdy. I do they're gonNA be on side. you know an unfortunate things. I say you have see the security they did. They did a great a job but I did hear about some. UFC staff that in some other people that ended up taking a few injuries in getting roughed up in her in all Carlos bars which this came out. She had a beer thrown on her. You know that that's kind of a little out of out of the norm. You know that that's that's not cool. That doesn't take away from the time that I had down out there in the people on us when I when I did my camp and and the way that I was treated I you know I don't really want to speak bat on that. You did a great job and security down there about keeping me safe and and I was just coming a situation and just because you said that you felt some pesos money being thrown at you coins yeah I mean there was some some hard you know what a beer in pesos or whatever they had. I don't know I I couldn't see man. Land was down to just fill things by coach. AUSE looking for me grabbed in right away. He was like we get out of here and he he he do resume. He said that thanks to comment on on this kind of hanging like damn. You don't like I get it. You Guys WanNa see main event. I wanted to fight you know a is my first no contest and I not even know why record by over fifty five I haven't had anything ever happened like this sucks. You know it's kind I felt bad felt terrible here. I am my company's Reliabi- made event. I perform time and time again and I didn't get a chance to fight. I totally get how the fans would be upset. You know and it's not my out of my control the way they react or what really goes on and you know thank God for my coach teammates. Everybody helped me out the UFC security sucks for some of the people. They ended up getting in an injured sure. Did you see any of his post fight reaction and if so how do you feel about how he handled it now. I haven't seen one of his I haven't seen anything travelling and I just took some time to debrief fuck. I've in the other day we we've got into it at the hotel on China come up and be cordial and he comes up and he's he's trying to talk shit came here to compete in fighting on so I had to shove him back across crossroads ELM and get into it with a little bit so I mean if you're GonNa talk about me. Let's let's talk about. Let's talk about running it back in the United States and like some of the three greatest American American places over here This'll like the other side. No we got Boston we got. MSG WE'VE GOT DC those in three great American places like you're GonNa Talk Audubon me. Let's let's fight. I came here to compete. You know he's in great shape. I'm in great shape. We we spent harder money like let's go came to fight. I came to compete lake a free thing what's fouts back. So where did this incident happened in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the Wayne's or anything. This was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back shaking my bags win. Zingo gas and food and then we were taking often comes up like all awkward. Lincoln thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shaved my anthony. I'd be like a gentleman I get it and DOC shifting Roy. You know I'm I'm not from crotty. School brought on from the street. I'm here to compete flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was backed up so I shoved him on his coaches. His Dad and his parents never talented. What will you know and I know assessor. Ask footage from them to release footing but they're not going to release it because you're going to cower. They're coming up trying to be gentlemen fortunately that that wasn't it and he wants to. He wants to talk and same thing. I I don't know the I air. He doesn't know me you know but I'm not like that. You know I don't I don't i WanNa Talk Shit. Especially after you live oak me. So is what it is. Let's let's let's continue this fight. You know let's let's go to the best history replaces in America and run this back. You know you've got to come to this side and and I wanna find okay so just because this was yesterday today. This is after the I poke that this happened. Wow okay. I thought you meant before the fight is after the flight so clearly bad blood is still there and you just mentioned Boston you mentioned. MSG mention December seventh Washington and Boston is in less than a month. So are you saying that you're okay to return like if they called you today you WanNa fight in three weeks. You're good. There's there's no issues that I can get cleared. My is fine. You know this is one of them. Free treats things happen so you know I I. I didn't know if he's going to be worse or unfortunately I come out on a on a good end. Thank God because is not to play with I'm the best shape over my life. I spent weeks away from from my family to you know I. I didn't come down there for one check. You know that's that's I spent sent that pretty much down down there and take care of this in the best shape over we can come back to the three greatest places in America it right back. Let's let's go if you're going to sit here and talk. Let's let's go back if not the hell out of my way. I'm I'm uncommon. I WANNA scrap. I WANNA move up this. This is my life. Life by career is revenue for years. have any of those talks about running. It back happened already to the best knowledge it got right back to Sean said ain't like I apologize for him off to him today and he's like man. You have nothing to be mad about robot young aw socks basing its feel a ton of emotions. You know I mean I don't WanNa. Go there for like that. I know what table pay especially down. People are hard working and you know they. They WanNa see me perform. I love to perform. I am a performer when the lights come on. I show up you know and it just I couldn't continue that night. You know and let's let's run back immediately texted Sean. We're trying to figure this out. The this candidate Harry is continuing to talk about me well. Let's let's talk about running back because if you're trying to duck and dodge in indep- you know like I'm right here. I'm in great shape. The thing nothing major happened thank God and was right back. Did Sean seem interested a lot. More people are GONNA be interested in this in this fight now. Yes bigger like a checkmate. Money's rise it up. You know now. There's more there's more heat. You're GonNa talk in runaway you know I never been cut from the US's from back data flights. You know remember that you know. I wrote them. How do you know like I am. I am I am. I cut a night folks dogs lie. It's a lot different so let's let's go. You know you're in great shape. You're you're at the time like let's let's not wasting any time. I'm still ready to go. I haven't I've only eat a little bit of food. I can still make wait this week actually so let's let's continue this considering that reputation Jeremy. What is it like to have people question your your are your integrity say that you quit that you look for a way out that you were scared. Have you seen any of this stuff and does it make you live it. Like how do you react to that considering. You're one of those guys people in the know no that anytime anywhere I mean you like you said you've never backed down from anything and now you have people online questioning you. That's they're limiting belief man. I I can't control what people would people think on half those more than ninety percents don't even fight. It's out of my concern you know. I don't worry about things that I can't control so I I'm not I'm not too worried about people say everything you know the funny thing Israel's Israel's everybody can talk on the Internet. No one's ever literally came to my face Jeremy Steven. You're quitter you suck. You're terrible or any of those negative things that anybody would whatever say you know fibro There's nothing there's nothing that you can do to Herbie Should I don't worry about last week. You told us you spent six weeks in Mexico. Leading up to the fight spent around thirty thousand dollars on this camp for all that to happen to be away from your family and just get fifteen seconds. It's like you don't get that that ability to release the energy. What is it like coming home after all this like without the W. without even being a fire without any bruises on you do feel unfulfilled fulfiled like could you explain the emotions as you came back home after being away from so long and not actually getting an opportunity to really fight. I have to WHO be away from home so did he sold it his coaches soda. My coaches SORTA like my family to come home with a one check buzz not how I feed my family family. Look at me like I'm. I'm in great shape right there. In the best shape of my life. I felt a well prepared so it's an empty failing to come home with one check is just. I can't afford that. You know a lot of money scam. I spent a lot of time for download tasks this like it never happened. It's like I just WanNa. Continue this and get this over. You know what I really WanNa. I really WANNA go up against his kid. compete with them disapprove beat his ass. There's nothing really going to change. I WANNA embarrasses versus kid on WanNa. Get up there and get get after like. Let's let's go you know one. Check socks go you know and I spent I spent a lot of money and time down there. It's it's empty feeling it must continue and must go on show must go on. Well happy to hear that you're okay that it wasn't serious and hopefully I agree with you. It makes all the sense of the world to run back so hopefully that happened sooner rather than later boss. I think any of those cards I've seen a lot of fans in Boston. Who wanted to seize a beat versus Calvin Cater. That fight got moved. I'd say want to put that combing event under Wiedeman and raise makes all the sense. I'm sure you don't care if it's main events or you. Just want to fight this guy at this point so it's stage brother Yes. That's realme back back to America. You know the situation. Reverse is more build up. It's like checkmate foresight like okay. You know let's let's let's it's the best thing that can happen now. We're running back in the stays in these satisfied. Ito's in the greatest states in America. There's three of them is that Boston is mentioned. There's MSG on a huge car art and there's DC. Maybe so maybe I could be the ones bringing the trump's in town so let's roll. Thank you for doing this Jeremy. I appreciate it very much glad to hear you're cocaine and hopefully you get that by. We get that fight sooner rather than later. Thanks so much all right. We'll talk to you soon. There is little heathen Jeremy Stevens unfortunate fortunate situation but here we are just finding out that they had a bit of an incident at the hotel on Sunday adding more fuel to that fire so we'll see if the UFC decides to run back all right. We've been talking about the state of the welterweight title. Pitcher for the last several weeks as of right now. Nothing really has changed. We know that Hori mazdas hospitals fighting Nathan yes. The whole thing is so crazy by voice just cracked Kobe coming tomorrow. Who's been are they going to fight. We don't know we know Leon. Edwards is ready to go. He's on quite the run so we thought we heard from Colby. Tomorrow's not available right now but Leon is available. Let's talk to him about the state of this way class and the whole mess surrounding the title picture Liane. Thank you very much for doing this. How are you my man. I'm good era. I'm doing great so I'm GonNa. Ask you a very broad question. I just mentioned might as well as as I mentioned Covington newsmen not fighting right now. The flights are booked. How'd you feel about what's going on at the top of your way class considering the streak that you're on considering how close you are to a title fight yet. It seems like everything's sort of at a stalemate here exactly the whole division. Now is in standby amber to go. I am I am how I'm pushing for five so that's a fire. Kobe happening while I'm hearing I'll go in December. So you're hearing that that's now dead that coming to new spin is a is a dead thing right now and they're ready to move on. I'M GONNA get guys now. Stalemate Cobb is asking for too much money or whatever isn't i. I put my name hat and told them I am ready to go. I feel I'm I'm on the second most win streak in division of I believe it is shot next to the best knowledge you putting that out there you reaching out to the understand extend. Your management has talked to them as well. Are they open to this or are they warming up to the idea of just skipping colby and going straight to you spoke spot them attain for November second in the formatting Saddam. Would you be ready. November second and I said yes and gave muscle. India's fight Mrs Again Saddam murder for December four in in Vegas the if qualified. I'm the next in line so I I believe I. I should be in December. You know it's been a couple of weeks now that nothing has happened. Are you surprised that they're waiting so long. It seems like they kind of put this this this issue on ice they went and did the Mazda fight. They're trying to do St Bay four December. They did Holloway but like this thing has kind of come to a screeching halt. Are you surprised price. They're giving Kobe such a long chance to come back to the table and not just moving on exactly I asked on doing the wave wave colby for for whatever reason more than deserted shot over Kobe off. He's told told not Nessin. That's it. You know what I mean. I I feel my Polish shop especially car. It was the last person to be it may so I've got one back on the back. Do you have any concern that you're being used as as sort of a leverage point here in the sense that they're saying Okay Leon is ready and on standby. You'd better get your act together because if not we're. GonNa skip you and go beyond that. There's really no true intention to give you that but because you have a legitimate streak because you're so close to the title shot you are a legitimate threat so you're not really really being considered but you're more being used. Does that cross your mind at all. Does that worry you not really. I don't fall out since you mentioned like I said I believe I deserve the next do nothing my power to get an extra vaccine me so I believe we'll we'll get next hour shop opened in December Camara except the fighting go from that to the best knowledge how close were you to getting the title fight right at MSG because I heard also that they were having issues with so called not being blamed for a lot of this but but he's coming to the table is one. It almost seems like they're working behind the scenes scenes in unison. Did you think you were close to getting it for the card. All those are the former team. So what are you ready for number. The second said absolutely isn't it was between Muscle Kamara. I thought is already thirty some really across to make a final okay. Do you feel like December fourteenth close November second. Yeah okay all right. Have they given you a timetable like you're. GonNa find out by this time. We're GONNA make a decision by this time. They give me a few weeks and if nothing goes often I I'm next in line waiting to hear back from the from the UCLA from Tamen to see what's happening. I'm staying in gem state ready. I could not give to also offer deserve taller shot. You've given them all content number. Also I'm ready to. I'm fit and healthy. I'm young. I want to see us a number to get into who would even make sense for a number one contender spot against you at this point. I don't know I don't know what it is. Liz Name Yeah. What do you think about that. Good at Optima cat like my game is my is my champion. This is what this is. All focused on is to be an accident me. I want to show if they do come to you and say okay. We're going to give it to is like Colby tomorrow. Is there a negotiation to be had or or are you ready to go like. Are you all good. You're everything's agree to you. Just need the date not the payment of money and is it okay. I'll I'll I won't be ready to go over whenever and not five trump changes now. You mentioned that you're in the gym. You're you're. You're staying fit. You're in shape. You're preparing. Is it hard. Is it hard to get motivated to go to the gym like when you don't really know the center may be delayed to January February like you don't really know what's going on. Is it hard to get motivated some points. I truly enjoy training. I enjoy OPTIMA Komo teammates angel on my on he's ready for fighting November and listen join the process like I said I'm I'm still young in the game a lot learning a Mulligan bedroom so these guys best trying to find out later on I feel I'll be not meeting them upon so I'm I join how much I know you. Don't love the the trash talk and the theatrics and the politics has all of this turned you off off even more like the fact that you're stuck in this situation. You're that close but you know it's it's the stalemate. Has it turned you off from the game even more so than the times we talked about it in the past Australian. What can I do. Ah Defeat other folks locking controlling of pushing otherwise this game job imagine I was like I said I believe in Myself Believe Madman. Let's get what I can. I'll get there. I know I'm one one that way. If not like I said I just now I will not enough. I I wouldn't talk show or display. I know you said that was on the table. I and that's obviously a big deal for any fighter to fight in that venue it ends up going to Mazda and Mazda. All you have the history with the incident backstage in March to you see what has become of him to see that. He's fighting for this title that they're created. You know they're creating out of the blue. How do you feel about this. Eric might give it to you. I believe if adrenaline mentally to start Cresa fate tall and baked well. Why would it be my name's Muslim. They will come. You will see when a day comment. That's not man but are you surprised. Is there making this belt that they're actually producing the B. M. F. title Jessa Journeyman era. I'm not joining the shit I am. GonNa fuck out most of the audience they want to do. I'll do I wanted to but just like because it's guys at one seventy do feel like that because historically the baddest man on the planet or the baddest is the champion right so the fact that another titles being created guys in that division. Do you feel like it almost waters downed the actual real title don't Arrow in turn time. No Dot means nothing that means you cannot tell your grandkids kids are at that means nothing my champion. I won't be able to champion. You can create as much as you want. That means nothing in longer is one thing though for the fighters created. I'm just wondering if you're surprised the UFC is making it the w the office yeah I go. I do my job. I get paid and I take my family and I said recently celebrated. Is your birthday correct. Yeah eight nine Aero gain out come on twenty eight wow. What did we do anything special. That's not really what really nothing nothing. Nothing I guess twenty eight is a milestone of any quite thirty thirty. It's twenty five is a part of my friends my family and really enjoy trying to just keep passing by the way I'm just curious. You know your brothers doing very well. Fabian as you mentioned he's fighting in November as you're going through all this does he. He ever tried to recruit you to say like hey. I don't have to deal with this stuff over with those other guys because he ever tried to do that. Sort of thing with you tried to come over different to say like you said is is is is so good Arrow. Oh He's like unbelievable. You know what I mean. That's a show wh showed wild wise like more on the biggest Asian like I said. The kid is amazing. Isn't you WANNA. Do you think he ends up better than you hope he does. I hope he does like I say can could we came from from from the mud. Arrow I hope he does. I didn't get too much money as a Canon does this is a Kenyan ago so in conclusion. You don't have a fight yet. You feel like it's close you come Russmann December Fourteenth Las Vegas. You WanNA fight for the belt. You want to get that rematch against him. You've earned it eight Nero here. The Guy Absolutely era I am I am no one else is me or Kamar longest industry guys on turn two records. Just keep winning losing like come on you cannot be the by this year on twenty record is nonsense. I believe I am next in London Kamar Kamar ready and by the way what do you make of Colby referring to Leon Scott. Did you hear that Social Media Doc is this Scott mentioned pitchers. Scott Africa coming from TV viewing of I fucking cove is ah he's a weird guy. Just different from different across from these people cannot even for myself a different life and different craft from all these people. I don't even know like I. I understand Marty fake news. I don't really get that one do you. Do you think he's just calling you a different name. I don't know what I don't get out of. The American air not give a shit is a Weirdo is a weird man is cannot even for all right well. We'll see how it plays out. Hopefully we figured I mean they just added the second title fight on Saturday so hopefully we we get some sort of your thoughts on that. Bill Yeah Bill arket ready all right. Well thank you for doing this Leon. I appreciate it and happy belated birthday. Hopefully for your sake you get that title fight sooner rather than later get Ero. I one hundred percent deserve a shot. I do think Kobe deserves it as well. I'll be one hundred percent honest with you. I think they've got an interesting scenario. I would like them them to make this fight sooner rather than later and I said that if they do like if they were GonNa make Kobe versus tomorrow at MSG. I want them to do versus Tyronn in the Co main in this before the whole thing came about as a number one contender fight because I do think tire and should be considered in that mix as well. I don't know what they're gonNA do now. I do think I will say the go ahead Tareq Pasha. I think what you feel really deserves. Our show no no. I say you versus the number one contender fight how you versus Woodley if they made Kobe resilient but I do think that Kobe all the blame is being directed him going both ways. Both guys aren't coming to the table so I feel like that's important to note. I'm curious if they do come to you and say all right. We'll give you the title shot. Will he even come to the table. We'll tomorrow even come to the table. That's what I fear for your sake. I believe I believe it will also I not I believe you will more call department. I'm here John. Okay well one. It should be no more than one more next is totally fine but one big fight and then you're there or next. That's what I I don't think you should be going on thirteen five winning. It never happened our leave. The company goes through the I five tall shot. Never how many flights do you have left on your deal anyway. I believe it's one on one or two so you're getting close yeah. I'm up the renegotiation and now for the right five fast before going into negotiations. Oh Wow so this is really important. I mean you could if you conceivably keep winning then leave if you want if you don't feel like you're getting that fight exactly okay. I'm about so the area and I I am. I going to hang around and be during. Is there a deal on the table an extension the negotiations. I want to be a champion. That's my that's my draymond. Our Yeah Okay all right interesting times for Leon Edwards. We'll see how this all plays out. Thank you for doing Leon. I appreciate it. Thank Eh all right. The Rocky Edwards interesting spot very interesting little nugget there as far as his contract is concerned. We'll see how it plays out colby. WHO's Mon- Liane Edwards a very interesting time at a hundred and seventy pounds. He certainly is ready and willing. I the very least one fight Woodley fight if they do end ended up going with Kobe versus one fight against Woodley. I think would make a lot of sense as of right now. There is no deal with Kobe. December fourteenth is still missing that one title fight that they'd like to add. There's been talk of these stupid. There's been talks of maybe a John Jones fight. Perhaps if the winner of Wiedeman Ray comes comes back quickly. It's all very much influx great to get his side of the story way back when our next guest was a top contender at one hundred and seventy pounds he has been in spots where he derailed a guy who was knocking on a title. Shot Door Jake Ellen Berger back in two thousand twelve had that close fight against Jake Shields Shield's around a year or so before when he was getting ready to fight that big fight against GSP at U. OF C. Twenty nine. He is the pride of Denmark. He is the the greatest fighter to ever come out of Denmark. Eleven wins most wins ever by Danish fighter in the history of the U. OF C. The next best only has one and we haven't talked in quite some time Martin the Hitman Kampman who this week I was thinking about as the UFC is returning to Denmark where I should say making its debut in Denmark. I thought why not catch up with the face of Danish. MMA Martin Kampman and there he is it's been awhile since we've talked to him. Martin so good to see you my man. How are you doing. You're you're. You're very good. It's been awhile since we last talked yeah. It's been a while so while it's been around three or four years since you walked away from the sport before we get to this weekend. What have you been doing over the last three or so years well right now. I just got out of a just got out of training here at the Great Danes in Denmark Mark. Now training great things may Jim got the guys out here standing there watching your show right now that they can face this on the side of the side of the window here so so. I'm a little sweaty no problem then you know if if a man out you know I'll jump in and still get some rounds in. I still get training unlike when I was still fighting but I still get a a slow. Get some training in you know it's enjoy training. Is this your own Jim. This is like a Jim and it's like an association to boy. The setup is different. You know there's not that many gyms. That's kind of being run as business. A lot of gyms like association. That's the what are you. GonNa get subsidized from the government to have sports. clubs for keeping people engaged in sports sports stuff like that but I'm the CO chair and we have great team great. Thanks Jim and and a lot of good guys most most amateur guys but we're we're working a autumn. Everybody's improving all the time and hopefully bringing out more guys internationally in is the gym in Copenhagen no now we're in Windsor okay. How far is that from Copenhagen two hour drive from from forever around Denmark. I would love to enforce. I'm not going to the event this weekend but one of these days that would be amazing. I'm wondering you retired relatively young and we we often see the in flight sports people retire and then the vent the eventually come back just this past week we found out that Rashad Evans is coming back. Have you ever had the itch to come back. Have you ever thought what about it. I'll get all the time all the time I really enjoy fighting you know and out here in Denmark. I also do a for some of the commentary concern for via play. Who has the broadcast you have see so I do some of the compensating in Danny so every time I watched the show compensate. I'm watching walking out of their chatterbox. Because I enjoy I enjoy I'm not just a competitor fan and of course Gingrich all the time but I already made a clear decision to not continue fighting and now I'm still enjoying training very much and I enjoy coaching. I enjoyed helping helping other people or get get better and improving his fighters. It'll this this week in Copenhagen. We have Michael Madsen that I'm coaching and he's he's competing on the on a big spot and all his you've you of Cebu and he say co main event in Denmark so it's a pretty big deal. He's so it's a pleasure to work with him. Yeah the two thousand sixteen silver medallist us as like a five time world's Greco Roman medalists these this is a start and he's he's really improved his game and he's GonNa. He's GonNa do really well. You've see how long have you been with him. For about two years serving okay maybe less maybe less speed we met known each other for a long time but there was a long period where he wasn't there what he was still committed to wrestling you know so it wouldn't he was allowed to some may from the wrestling association but he couldn't he still had to focus focus on wrestling when he had the your teen gem chip world championship all this stuff yet to do the restaurant camps and he wasn't allowed to do and maybe you made the switch to full-timer and MMA and stop wrestling completely and the after you really take leaps unbalanced because then he can focus on not just in in all you know kind of half ass a interests before you know now is focus on the task at hand and now right now. It's his age no and he's made the made to see his first. You've seen here in Copenhagen so yeah. He's he's a really driven and a talented and just he's just thought thought it's a big spot for him. As you mentioned he's not the Komeda then against Danilo Bello Ardo and he's a local guy and I'm wondering is he the only guy that you'll be cornering on this card or did you have anyone else. No all only guy unfortunately well. There's only two Danish guys under the Copenhagen that I I I WANNA. I want to complain a little bit too. I think could have put some more Danish guys in there. You know there's there's some Danish guys that could have made the shot. You know there's a mess. Brunell he was it was a already knew see he's. We're like seeing again Sir Bach also of course there's premier. He's already signed cheap but there's a lot of guys I would have hoped to see more Danish guy on on CNN but I'm happy to see mark of course because I'm coaching and also Nicholas debut was also really look good in his last so I'm really excited for you've seen Kobe Nicholas the other one who was released from the AFC now coming back great story overcoming depression and alcoholism. We spoke to him recently so I'm happy to but I agree with you. I thought there would be more Danish fighters for you when you were fighting and you were you know main eventing and you're a top contender. Did you ever try to push for this to happen happened. Like is there a part of you that says like man. I wish you guys would come when I was an active fighter that I could experience fighting in my home country. I never really pushed for it to be honest with because back then. It just didn't seem too realistic. It didn't seem is a very niche in Denmark and it's still small. It's smelly ino soccer and handball and but it's gotten a lot more mainstream attention especially hereafter. Mara got into the sport because he was you know he's a well the owner athlete merger small country so we don't have too many. Olympic medalist sports so mb an Olympic medalist and making the jumps in the doing great job in as brought more mainstream attention to choices for. I think it's definitely helping get a if more attention but also now in Denmark. Is Everything Holding Mason of course. It's grown a lot. You know when I when I was there Morgan fighting you know it was tough to get five or go to Sweden. It fights. I'd go to England Goto Russia. I travel a lot now. We just had a lot more easier to get an amateur fights here in Denmark. We we had located then this week. Here are Jim you know where that was tuned to get fights and and get experienced so it's growing stuff that growing. It's a lot since I started getting into Denmark and there's a lot of people it's done a great job helping in that progress and I'm sure you're responsible for a a lot of that because for the longest time you're the only only Danish fighter fighting in the AFC and certainly the most successful. How big of a deal is this event like you feel a lot of Buzz Frit. Have a lot of tickets been sold. What kind kinda since you get. I think a yeah I live in Copenhagen but I'm definitely a loan. Invent ordering and I feel there's definitely going a lot of bus. That's a lot of the mainstream mainstream media that's that's caught up on inviting stories an open contacted about it because of my history in the AFC so definitely I'm expecting hopefully sold out arena but if not then close to sold out arena I think is also is going to bring a lot of people from from surrounding countries. She'll because we have a lot of European fighters. That's under cars so we're going to get an older Jack Ham Manson on on uh on the main event you know he's a great guy two so Lebron come down from the Ole Sweden Sweden and and There's a lot of guys it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be cool that I'm looking forward to it. After he retired. We were called you coaching team. Alpha male and I used to live in Las Vegas as well. Why did you eventually decided to go back home and not stay in the United States. Was that always the plan or did something come up that brought you back home. No I always I enjoy living the US soon but I've had three kids in the US and when you get kids it's nice to also sometimes be closer to your your fam- family relatives and that was part of the recent moving back to Denmark in one of my kids experienced growing up up in the in Denmark and also. It's nice to be close to your you know grandparents to take care of released. Oh yes you know you have you. Have you have a kid as well so you know. Sometimes I get a little released absolutely yes. I have three as well and I don't live in the same country as my parents or my in laws so I know exactly what you're talking talking about. It's a nice luxury and so you went back home to start coaching. Is this what you do full-time now your coach at this great Dane School. I'm coach here and a lot of things also coach at our school for Physical Education Converts where I do martial-arts and of course her coach mark who sir fighting this this week area going fight card I have a web shop with my wife and I have a bunch of the different stuff that are this together making taking plenty of time but it's all it's all a big bond together smaller pieces that make uh-huh when you think back on your career what was your favorite moment favorite fight favorite performance favorite moment. Is there something that sticks out above. The rest are aw. I don't know if I have a favorite moment. You Know Fan. There's a tough spot but just by I fight winning in the AFC was that's the the big big deal for me because it came on the US notification to fight hoping to get five. Maybe on a smaller fight card and then I I. I got a fight on WJ which was trying to kind of compete with the seafood came in and spend a lot of money in eventually they didn't stick around. You've see bottom up. I got a tune to find. UFC was really a really big deal for me back then of course every fight. I'm thinking the fans so yeah but just getting my my feet get the door morning getting established in the AFC great experience my favorite Barnum in the J. Kellenberger when I thought was massive for you. I still believe you beat Jake Shields. What do you think do you agree man I. I don't know I think definitely did more damage but to be honest with you I was I was really disappointed. In my own performance I thought I fought aw an invite a smart fight you know I thought I could afford fought waste mortar so even though you know. Some people think that want it. I I'm mostly thinking about. I didn't do my best. I didn't find smart and making it too much of a groundfire where I could. You know sit a play. I was trying to submit them and playing into Jitsu game. I I just found around a little bit more but you make mistakes you learn from them and that's some of the stuff that I can carry on and show to the guys that I'm coaching here. The retains everything's and also to Marcus who's fighting this week and of course that fight against Diego Sanchez and Kentucky was phenomenal Carlos Condit fights. I mean you have had some classics. The did you ever sit back and watch them. Do you show your kids what what what they're old man. Did you get to educate them now and it's been a while since I watched any of my fights but really will amount that you maybe now that you reminded me. I'll have to go. I have to go check him out again. Showing my kids in all of this is eight so so does he have any sense because you bring into the gym sometimes and offerings Jim but there are dim warned soccer everything out here right they'll do wrestle wrestle with them and stuff like that and on scrambled fight a little bit but they've Judah for a little bit but they're not dividing regardless. I was who do they like Peter Schmeichel. Isn't he Danish. He's too old. You don't even know that he is Exon. Kessler smartly was good goalkeepers. Well there you go all right so mark mats and look up for him right. That's the guy this Saturday and another thing about him. We worth you've. CPI This Training Vegas came off for training camp. They do those strengthened explosiveness test out there yeah and he took the record to out of is allow for one fifty five when they won fifty five the most tested weight class. Really this is start. He's a he's just the different level athletes you know when you do the Olympics all wrestling doing your whole life he's and these starting pickup. Samson and and of course he's got solid wrestling but sure hands and getting heavy and again sharp and you guys were just in Kazakhstan right. Yeah we just came back from Kazakhstan because United Wrestling will will will championship wrestling was out there and he already committed to to doing some common. Sharon worked for him so he wanted to know honor that commitment even though he had to fight sit up so obviously best thing to the fight camera beaches to not go to Kazakhstan at this time when he wanted to It's the commitment so we went out with him. Took some good training out there. It was really good experience to of course all the wrestling there but also to get to enjoy Khazakstan. I bet wow all right well. I gotta say man. It's really great to catch what's up with you. Martin and I'm really happy for your success in that. You're still in the fight game and now producing talent that we're GONNA see on display this Saturday like I said when I thought of Denmark mark. I thought we need to catch up with Marin. Kevin and I'm happy that you're going to be there in some capacity and I'm also happy that you have in scratch that itch I respect greatly when a fighter walks way and just walks away and we see too often guys coming back and I understand why they come back but they look like shells of their former selves. I respect you for for ignoring that rich as much as possible and now training guys and giving back so keep it up man continued success good luck to mark this week and we'll be watching for sure. Thanks Earl always a pleasure to talk with you. Yes we'll talk to you soon. There is Martin Kampman stopping by great to talk to the Hitman longtime veteran top contenders had many any great victories over the likes of Jake Ellen Berger Taegu Alvez's Rick Story Palacio Jacob Volkmann Carlos Condit Rivera dramatic February's tells ladies I mean a WHO's who you also great poker players well so great to see him back and looking forward to mark Matson's debut this Saturday. This is a great card by the way sneaky good card flying under the radar. I said at the top some really good names Jack Hermansson against jarred cannon year. We'll talk to her Manson in a bit Mark Mattson as I mentioned Gilbert Burns against Nelson Elson Khalil Roundtree p Nicholas Dhabi John Phillips CR Bahadur Asada macy's Angelina Landsberg Mark Casey Against Landover Jack Shore making his debut Brand Davis. There's a lot to like all right. There's some of the lineup before we move on to our next. Let me tell you about our good friends over at vivid seats by the way Jake. I gave some PRA- for this last week on the importers which I know you all love that you can download each and every week on the same feed that you download at this show. I mean you use the same song every week. I mean from what I understand. There's a very extensive library of songs at ESPN. Perhaps we could switch it up. What do you say pick this music. Yeah I picked it back in June of two thousand eighteen. I mean I didn't say the yet to stick to it. I mean let's switch it up. Perhaps this week we're going to Denmark. Denmark play some Danish music next week. We're going to Australia place. Let's get in the mood here. You know what I'm saying. I mean it would be nice to see you. Flex your creative muscles. You certainly like to flexor muscles. Just in general flexible created bustles anyway before move along to our highly anticipated next guest. Let me tell you about our good friends over at vivid seats. You know I love them. They support us us. We support them. 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Jose mas well coming up we have Daniel Cormier in his first interview since his loss at UFC two forty one talked to Leeann Edwards. Jeremy Stevens Got Jack Hermansson Anson when I put out the lineup though about this particular week all the comments were about our next guest and he's not even a fighter but you love him and and to be honest. It's long overdue that we have this man on the program. He is a comedian. He is a podcast. He's an actor. He's a host you know him from the church. Which of what's happening. Now you know from the job experience you know him. As the incomparable the often imitated never duplicated the pride of Bergen County the pride pride of Cuba the pride of Colorado the price of a lot of things the Great Joey Coco Diaz on the program Joey. How are you my man good my friend how are you. I'm doing great. Wow what a response to you being on the program people flipping out people so excited. I never seen anything like this before you our beloved. Did you know this. I I hear it. I hear it but now is this mike well. I feel like you're being a little humble. Well like I said it's that's right and I appreciate you downloading skype. Is this your first time doing a skype interview before Yup just for me. It's free you will joe. You're great man thank you. I appreciate that the skype is kind of going in and out of your way. I want to hear this from you. Should we reconnect with Joey because this is going in and out. What should we do okay Joe. We're going to reconnect with you. Stand by okay because the skype is going in and out there and I wanNA. I WANNA get joey. You know these days as the facetime has been a lot better than the skype if I'm being honest. I'm not trying to pit the two between each other but I'm just saying. It's been a lot better corporate. Jake tells me I can't do it. There's there's a whole big problem back. It's mad at me. It's a whole do a whole to do. All right. We're going to reconnect joy is a lot of you very excited to hear from him. After Joey Diaz we're GonNa talk to the Great Jack Hermansson who of course meets jared cannon year this Saturday in the main event of that show in Copenhagen after that we'll hear from Sudan sat down with him on Thursday before the press conference in New York at the get up studios in these South Street seaport in Lower Manhattan and then we shall talk to Daniel Cormie as well in his first interview since UFC two forty one so I'm looking forward to all of that also in addition to the Denmark hard by the way. It's a loaded weekend of action. We've got the bell tour doubleheader on Friday in Dublin Bell Tower Europe. It's one of those weird ones where it's like. A bell toured Europe and also bill twenty seven. I don't really understand how they break this down but but Benson Henderson versus myles jury is I think the headliner it's a little confusing but it's in Dublin. There's a lot of local guys the you all heard from James Gallagher is on the card or I should say James Gallaher. His opponent had to pull out last this week but they were able to find him a replacement and then that's on Friday but then on Saturday it's the conclusion of the first round of the Bell Tower Featherweight Grand Prix built or to twenty-eight Patricia pit bull against one or two letter Leona machida against Giger Masasi to Darren Caldwell gets Henry Corrales. That's a great fight. I saw Rogers against Daniel Vital Georgie honey and against Jay McKee and AJ McKee is the son of Antonio Mckee and his dad. It is fighting on the prelims father son on the same card. Isn't that insane that hasn't happened very often. ANTONIO MCKEE LEGEND OF THE GAME now trainer coming back fighting on the prelims on the same card as Sun Twenty eight six thousand two Antonio Mckee. Aj exile also on that card who else does a bunch of names there the android go sean bunch. That's interesting one so that's Saturday in Inglewood up to no good good California and then Friday is the to twenty-seven what else is on this Belto Europe card Richard Keegan he league gets Michael Vana page of course Peter quickly returning that card has kind of been ravaged by a all kinds of injuries and cancellation and so they've had to cobble it together and then the twenty-seven card has keefer crosby on it will flurry France Mambo Bowl and then much local guys on the undercard as well also in addition to all of that cage warriors. Is this weekend cage warriors one. Oh seven seven. There's also an elephant card. Elephants future somewhat in limbo after the sale of access TV but they are putting another card been talking to some people about that as well so a lot of a ton of Emma may going on this weekend. It never ends. It never stops what's going on with my guy. What's going on Wednesday. Okay what's happening on Wednesday. You said Okay you want me to promote area around the bad guy to have anything to there. It is right there all right everyone say I on the bad guy and ESPN plus on the platform that we built shale. Ni- with our own hands are far shoulders by the way how `bout NFL primetime getting on ESPN plus these days isn't that incredible. I actually go out and watch it. ESPN PLUS is the place to be so yes every Wednesday show some love Jalen. I doing our show area on the bad guy. It's tremendous as Joey has is likes to say it comes out every Wednesday at around six thirty seven. PM also do mayor reporters everyone say. What did you say corporate jake no problem? I don't I never know when you're talking to me. If this is for the world to hear or should I relay this message also let you know by the way that next week we are off because it's Russia Russia. It's the Jewish New Year and so last year we did a show on the Jewish. New Year was on a Monday again. I don't know how it happened. Two years in a row. Oh and I felt horribly guilty but I was new at. ESPN and I felt like I couldn't miss it but I said to corporate Jacob New York Rick at the time back when they were friends and working together that I will never do this again because that's that's one of the holiest days for for people so I decided that this week will be obsolete off next week will return the following week all right. I'm told facetime. The always reliable is working much better than skype. Let's see it. Joey Dee as are you there my man Joey. Can you hear me okay okay. Let's see if this is better where you doing this from a cave over there in California. What's going on our house our WHOA fire. It's all good my man well. I appreciate your saying something. You're you're sharing with prey so I didn't WanNa miss that I said that I love what you do that you've been doing this is day. One on on your own you as you have gone and got the best in the business. I watch your show. Whatever I can appreciate that and I know no. You've you've had my back as well so that means a lot coming from you joy. When did you first fall in love with them and may we we c talking about all the time but what I ju- you to the sport and this is so but Chris Lebanon really why that one it. It just happened to come on as I was watching. TV and I never saw anything like that before in my life and I dug into it now I love it. Was this before you were friends with Joe or after I was friends. We're GONNA pretend in years and I would hear about this nonsense. I grew up on Bruce Lee and karate schools. I knew nothing about you. Jitsu and not in so M Andy Eddie they'd be like whatever you know because I saw the first couple of fights the guys looked like me like they were begging out of shape and I thought it was barroom brawling but then once I saw have to send started watching other fights. I I became a way everybody else and I've seen clips. I've seen the gifts of you in the karate guy. Is that legit like. Did you really practice karate back in the day from seven to sixteen and from twenty five to about thirty okay. Why did you stop at thirty now because I got into drugs and comedy fair enough and have you had hours. I go ahead now. I go to tie twice a week. I'm fifty six. I left and I try to get a role in once a week on the Lord's what's Day wow so. You're very active so yeah. I gotTa roll brother. I gotta be top of it. You have a six year old. Is that your only child. That's all you need is one look at the budget. I like it so you had a kid at fifty years old. Well done something guys fire their wives look the receptionist and get a quote that not many I thirteen years. I knocked my wife up okay and do you let your son watch your comedy stuff and listen to your podcast or not quite yet by the books. Excuse me no curving the House no alcohol in the House. She goes to tie. I wanted to have a different childhood. I hadn't New York City running around like a savage average so we're out here in California. Everything's very nice. No drama and I like it that way. We say no cursing at the House. I mean you're sort of infamous for your cursing. It's sort of second every third word on your shows his at home nothing nothing laughing because it's it's servicable. Whatever that word is irreversible. I learned how to curse at my mother's bar. When I was her age you know and then being an immigrant you come white kids. Don't show you the right words they show you curse words first and then they show you the George Washington the name but usually teacher curse words so it stuck and here I am fifty six years later and so. Is this how you know so much. I've heard you you talk about the immigrant mentality. This is where you learned it from. Absolutely it's a immigration. Tally is like this. You have to be better. Your parents raised you to be you have to be better than the white kids and at the same time with this pressure at the house you have this security. You don't know the language people are looking at you know so that's how I have to say my favorite clip of yours like I watch time and again just to put myself in a good mood. Is You Joe Watching Eddie Alvarez Against Rda that to me is the all time great. That's the best one by far that moment of you just getting all fired up and talking about Philadelphia whereas Connor McGregor now I mean that was just incredible that passion that excitement excitement. You know what I'm talking about. Isn't it amazing. I love her. I Love I love and I love the direction. You have seized on back there again. We've had a couple of good cards last couple cards. No drama great sportsmanship and I applaud Dana for November second for that belt. I think it's a great idea. It's GonNa be a great fight and it's it's a fight for the fans. Finally it's not tape of us and it's not about throwing things at buses. If you're a fan anime you're gonNA. Watch this so I'm excited about this a fight up. I feel like you really don't like honor the Uber. You bring them up you into subtly. Why don't you like this man. I love Conor McGregor. I Love Gregor. Ah love his range. I loved his personality. I'm you know Irish and Cuban a very close. We got close during the Battle of the Boyne a sixteen hundreds as there was a war and all the Irish went to Cuba because it was a Catholic country. I love my wife is Irish. I Love Everything about Colin Gregor. I think that when he got into name it changed a little bit too much and now back to leverage acting acting Kim and Rasi through offer a bit but now we're back on even ground again and I hope it comes back and listen great fights waiting for colonists so no I have nothing against. I just didn't like the antics that were on for a long time but now back home. He knew it's interesting when you go back and watch that clip of you reacting to win. I don't know if you remember this is kind of Gregor now and you kind of predicted that if he ran into Eddie he would get smoked of course. We know what happened so that it's kind of. It's kind of crazy to watch that clip several years later. That must have been shocking to you. You seem very convinced that Eddie would steamroll enroll him. I thought either at your whatever would stain roll him but like I said when you fight conor it's it's half as on so much mental yeah when you go into the when you go into the APP we got your head. Space has to be in a really replace. You can't get intimidated. You can't let the height get in there and I think that's what happened but I think that's what happened to a lot of his early. Fighters Haters. They let connor massively. There's that's Kinda. Does the best is get into your head but that could work with you or against you in my neighbor next call listen on your way that works with you most of the time but on the other and it works against against you sometimes but not Kinda fighter and I love what he's done for the USC but there's been we've all had moments. I love John. Jones don't hate what's happened with him but I'm a tremendous fan of John Jones and a dear friend so your dear friend of John Jones I love with all my heart comes to Mexico. He comes to the shows. I knew him before he had. The title are used to call them. Fear of a black landed obligate every go when you see John J-o-h-n just call them fear of a black planet got it John Jokes okay. You guys just chill out together. I've never seen a map the plights okay I'm spoke for him and then I went to the club and Albuquerque last year and he showed up on Friday night looking tremendous and we spoke and I gave him a hug and he he's a gentleman this we also gone down to Jackson's camp and hello my next venture is at and T. to say hello okay okay you know of course we know at at at. At there's a very proud Cuban fighter there you are of Cuban descent. What is it like for you to see see what is become of Mazda skies exploded all of a sudden going through this year I mean he was just a good fighter the hardcore neum now he's a mainstream star when loves them. Cuban Jesus. He's got the the beard. He's got the scarface outfit. What do you make of what's happened to to Hora Jorges coming through zone. The Prime Ammann's prime is between twenty six thirty to win somewhere along that route you find yourself as a man and as a fighter and when they both both meat or whatever you are as an announcer comic at that point met. George is a different person when he makes me very proud. I was a fan of George fifteen years ago because tournament is corn amendment to be yelling in Spanish pitch methenolone guy at Paso that means smack them in the face and I would sit there at home howland saint myself. You can't smack people in the face it's USA. That's been tally of the Cuban. He would say mentally guy at that so that's why he talked how you know. I chill means that when you say talk that means to touch somebody and that's lose corner and I'd be laughing. Nobody else catch it and that's how I reached out to him. In power and we became friends live and would it be safe to say or safe to assume that you're rooting for him on November the second I know I know you like Nathan as well. I got I got a big problem here. From Spain Yup my cousins has decided to jump off in Cuba but nick his family said we're going to go a little farther and they went to Mexico and then they shot up wherever I live from nine zero nine up there so nate. Diaz is the man I I bet late against Canada. I talking just because his Jitsu skills and I know what it takes to digital black belt and I fall unloved. I've never ever met nate never met nate my life. I was very proud to seek that he had lowering Russ against this. It's he looked great and I think like I said this to me is the best fighter the last five years because it's the fans. It's not about paper view. It's not about drome bottles. It's just about the fans and at both acting like gentlemen I saw a picture tonight out at one eighty two afterward and I am this fight as a as a friend and as a gambler. I'm not gonNA got a better. I'm just GonNa sit watch and enjoy like USC fan. Do you bet on a lot of fights. I bet on the ones I know I can win. Yeah okay all right. When's the last time they won. The biggest one was laid. I had frankie the against years ago against one of the guy what he fought the three times. I I better rate. Remain the second fired or something I took my wife. Joe gave us tickets and was the last time I put one and I don't remember okay but I usually don't Beckham about 'cause everybody's focused on the main more than these dating. Nobody has a crystal ball as usually good fighting the prelims or the undercard that you could make some money on so if there's something I really like I go after it but I'm such a fan that I wouldn't WanNa ruin it for yourself like I did when I was a kid football and I ruined if the myself with not Europe Street I WANNA watch it as a fan so I'd rather not waste money on it. Yeah you mentioned the fight. You love the title. Is there a part of view. Are you like an old school guy where you're like. They're making a fake title here this. You know this this is. WWe Like does that bother you or your all in on this you love it not at all. This is not wwe. I think this is brilliant of the sport. I think every once in a while two guys it doesn't mean everything about this. Let's just get guys that WANNA battle it out. I mean I don't WanNa see. Shawn beat up the Russian. Check my heart began. Nobody wants to see that right but I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of different. You know let's take the chance Columbus dead you know maybe Feed Bay drop down to something and John Jones. Go up a little bit and it doesn't mean nothing to your rankings. I would like to mix it up a little bit. Yeah you love Steep Pitch Steel. Pick which I love St Bela Frankie Edgar Cowboy you know I can see that the next fight McGregor the easy option for the UFC would be either. Somebody like cowboy was had to fight losing losing skid and he looks like an easy prey or Frankie Edgar. Both of those guys got a good fight left him. You know poconos is is or you know when you fight McGregor. You'd rise for Kinda McGregor yeah. Do you get knocked out because kind of touchy with that left or you could take into five rounds or something but I'm also excited for. Communists next move because it's gotta be Dustin Okay Kuei Justin or just pick out one fifty five to one fifty five individualist the NFC east ild day you had the skins you had the eagles and you had the giants and the cowboys and Ukraine. Somebody didn't pull a Lotta Gun. You pray that somebody didn't pull out a gun like where's John Riggins. He might like this is what one fifty eighty five is become. Just engages exciting will wait to see what could who is gonNA. Do you know Dustin Corey. Whoever Dustin Ankori fights next expect brain damage your this fans expect the ball learns language. I feel bad for whoever fights Dustin Poirier next I love this. That'll I'm very excited for the one fifty five division. I think John Jones is cemented for five steep as back what I like to see him and Daniel. Maybe maybe not AH. Maybe maybe I'm a big fan of Daniels and I'm a big fan of St pay so maybe maybe not one eighty five. I'm excited for my man whitaker when he comes back so the USCCA exciting again. I'm excited. I rented rocked persona how to pay okay for you even though I had to pay for ESPN five I like it. I'm in I don't care. You're in all right. We appreciate Your Business. Thank you it has has to be. It has to be against bill right none of this other stuff. It has to be Ferguson Vive next right. Well listen giving me. I WanNa see me like three other Fan Habib against the cooling. Yes that's the obvious choice. DSP's raising his hand. I hear rumors about Gig speed you that again. That is debt Let's give that up. I if nobody wants to see that yet we we. WanNa see the Kuwaiti about against B. But could defiant. I'm a comic. I don't make money at home. Oh cracking jokes in the mirror right so he's got to fight somebody. He's a fighter butch. Trucks could always push ups as we speak so if you're at the USC by the way what did you make of Moslem is with US outfit at the press conference. Did you see that Tony Montana outfit that he was sporting. Listen Man. He's like out. Lido's way in the beginning doing what he said. Oh I'm Katherine back. He's he's on fire these days then he shows up in Mexico with a Sombrero and the the bullets. Did you see that as well. The guy is just using our cheese mall right now yes and hit an emanate a donor great gentleman nobly stainless to each other and when you happy happy when you're smiling that's local Cooley. He's in there Mambo on the mock arena. This is tapping you. ABC's again you know and I'll have to clinch might festival when I'm watching them sweating so I'm very excited about the next couple of months to see what happens the back do. I WANNA see speak to be watch it but we all rather seek to be in Kuwait and get this. Who's WHO's your favorite of all time. Favorite side of all time to guys like cried. I saw get knocked out a couple of times as chocolate del Wow. I don't like to see I don't like to see I love this so much. I don't like to see him. Fight live. When my friends fight live. I cannot go to the fight because if you think what happened was bad I will throw chairs. I will go out. Get a heart attack right at the garden at one of my friends. You know I can't do it when I'm attack somebody like that. I don't WanNa go to bites. I'd rather see it on TV because if he does get it my New York City Cuban Jersey Santa Rita sex scene on line. One fat leg trying to climb over. The Dude is trying to push me back. I can't go see my friends fight so by the way can ask. Why do they call you mad flavor Flav. That's the name biggie smalls gaming. Did he really give you that. No group amazing. How much do you enjoy podcasting casting you love it. You seem like you have a great time. You're one with action. Bronson was a great one one of my favorites. We had him on the show last week as well. I love hearing you guys write about food. Yes snow. I love podcasting. I love what it's become. I don't love that. Take hold things against you that you say that because it's not I'm not being judged judge. I'm not being you know that work. That's why the five cats because I enjoy being free talk about whatever you know but besides that I love podcasting. It keeps you work. It keeps your heart out there. It's like riding. The subway in New York should tune which what's really going on. You know so I you talk to the people and so you're doing that. You're doing quite often any any comedy specials coming up any movies coming up. We'll see more of you. You know what man when it comes to comedy specials. I'm no good. I'm no good uptake. I'm better live live on the savage. When I'm alive and I got I got the PODCAST will do. I've been working on a one man. Show at the comedy store Los Angeles. I'm rich ICAGO this weekend at the Chicago data Friday night so I'm always busy. I'm always doing something plus. I got the six year old. I got the PTA meeting Wednesday night. You know all that stuff. You show up to those things. Do People know what you do in your in your your day job. I look very gluten free community over here. They looked at me and they think they think Donmar John God his nephew. They don't say much. Let me go prepared to these things when I go. Some parents average speak to me. Some parents look at me but I don't care I might I'm trying to try to raise it so it doesn't matter what they eh you know coincidentally. John Gotti's nephew John Guiding the third is is a pro fighter. Did you know that he's doing quite well. He is yeah he's undefeated. He's good so they just think of that. Yeah who punched against just going reads on me. I'm going down getting beat up one way or another home and by the way when I was talking to action. He told me like when he's performing. He's in the back watching the fights. He's doing everything like he surrounds everything around like he the fights it's our thing and then he works around to do the same like when you're out on the road and you know there's a big fight. Are you watching them as well backstage in your in your dressing room all that stuff. I try everything anything I can't you know with my luck. I always get booked and then the big fight comes on on that day. Obviously I have family out out there that I want to go see on the roads so I'll do anything I can watch the fight at the club. I'll call a week before walk out. Pay For it myself. How do whatever I can't always. There's always a dishwasher away to was somebody at the event. It's a fan by myself watching together. I don't like watching a fight after it's on right yeah no because what happens so ways yeah. I can't well joy. I gotta say this has been a huge honor for me. I know you're very much in demand and you speak with such passion and I think you represent the fan when you speak about the sport and the fights and your excitement is contagious. It's really just a lot of fun to see you react to it into talk about in your podcast is very entertaining. I mean I was really blown away. I know you're very famous. I know you're very popular but to see all these fans so excited for you to be on the program really warm my heart so thank you so much for doing this and hopefully we can do it again soon. I wish you nothing but the best to your family. Keep doing your thing my man and continued success you you and your family. It's essential my love. I will thank thank you joey. Stay black brother are my man all right Salaam Aleikum. Thank you very much. There is Joey Joey. Coco says has what a legend a living legend joining us on the program. That was a lot of fun. I appreciate his time busy guy but definitely check out his podcast if you've never heard it it's the the Church of what's happening now. His twitter feed is hilarious as well add. Matt Flavor gets you a very very pumped up for the day very excited for the day so keep it up and check mighties in Chicago this weekend as well and I think he does a phenomenal job with his stand up so well done joey. Thank you very much for joining us okay. Let's go back to the Copenhagen Hagan Card this weekend. The main event jared cannon near Jack Hermansen huge fight in one hundred and eighty five pound division. Let's say hello now to the joker for himself. One of the breakout stars of Twenty Nine Thousand Nine Jack the joker Hermansson. I should say jacker. You are great. Thank you for having me when you have you have to emphasize her man right not just Herman. It's Hermansson exactly okay. So where are you right now jack a aw home here in Oslo. Norway's also know when you go to Denmark at tomorrow tomorrow. This was the one you wanted right. You just wanted to fight on this card. You've been talking talking about this for quite some time. I know you wanted the card. What about the opponent. What did you think when they gave you jared Kenan near. He wasn't my pick. You know right so hard artes together. Kelvin guests and I know that the UC really tried to to engage him and we really make him to take take the five bucks he. He said he's not ready for this date so he could make it happen so I just asked who's next in line and they said the Jerry and I said all right. I WANNA be fighting here here. At home. I WANNA be fighting in my and backyard and the end to be the main invent the Copenhagen so yeah I got to roll with it and the consideration of both for sure I could have been happier with open a were you aware of what jared has been doing has been somewhat on your radar eight are once you were offered him. Did you have to go look them up. On New who I knew that he he was coming from behind you know with a lot of hype than the greater middleweight so our suspecting that they were gonNA offer me to the best your knowledge did they actually go to Kelvin offering from this and he said no yep I I spoke briefly over the Internet with Kelvin as well and and he said that he didn't want this day. T- wanted the five they wanted later this year not dissident okay so you actually deemed with him or something you we. It was an open conversations throat something you know. I I really try to you know. Call him out. It's a little bit and it and commented on some post and so it was not really conversation but it was clear that he wanted to five bucks. They're not not on this date. Okay and for you fighting and company. I mean you have ties to Sweden ties to Norway. Obviously why did it mean so so much to to fight in Denmark just to be close at home almost every fight. I need to travel far and the it's the enemy territory as is a nice feeling to to to be fighting close to home where a friends family and fans is going to be able to to see me live. You've and I want to grow into the role of the leading martial artists hearings can maybe I you know especially now. sent her step down so think it's time for somebody nobody can take over the throne man and I think that has to be mean so I felt that this event was made for me. I obviously don't live there but I'm just wondering is there are a lot of buzzes the first time you've see when they go to a country for the first time usually it feels like a really big deal and we were just talking to Martin Kampman. There's only two Danish fighters on this card so I feel like they're adopting you as one of their own. Are you sensing a lot of big deal or do you think you'll you'll you know a lot of buzz for this or do. You think you'll only really feel that. Once you get there tomorrow. it it. It has been some bus but the looking forward to see how the the vibes are. When I get to Copenhagen then I expect there's going to be a great show and the and the community we will enjoy this. Has Life changed at all for you. Since you be jock rate you notice. It's a difference yeah I do it. It's a little bit more. people are recognizing you. You WanNa you get a little bit more media attention than the and so on but the my life looks pretty much the same you know I'm training twice a day and eating sleeping and that's what I do so I don't see too much you know. I don't know if you saw this interview that Jacques did recently with them. May Find Dot Com talked about dealing with depression after the loss and being very emotional afterwards. Do you read that and if so how do you react to that knowing that you're like it was because of your now that you have anything to feel bad about her feel guilty about but just that he was reacting to something that happened in a fight that you were involved in. Do you have any reaction to that. you know. I can relate to that and I really felt with Jack. Right after their fight a really understand that he was really really close to to the ultimate goal and and he has been in the game for such a long time and he was so close to get title shots and the then I'm coming from where and the and the destroys that so I really feel with him and the and the understand the feeling so but on the other side the the you gotTa do this in this game so you can't show mercy when it's time to fight you say that you can relate to him. What do you mean by that abandon similar experiences. I remember after my lost to Jerusalem. Those were really really felt like yeah. yeah. I felt like shift words. When I got home I will see the state that the probably never have been in other situations felt the super I could look into a wolf for several hours without moving without the being able to think type of emptiness and the the test to be some kind of depression so I can relate to that feeling after like hey did you snap out of that. It was hard because I felt like the only way I could snap out of it was to get back banning and to continue to grow but I I was injured after the fight so it really took some time before could train properly again and that's really helped me back act like six months later. AL's able to train appropriately again and and the I started to feel a little bit better so yet to get back in there with new goals and the and get back in training. I think that's the best medicine and let's see January is going up way class and has new fight so oh yeah I'm happy and interestingly enough since that fight you have not lost and so I'm wondering if that feeling that you experience afterwards afterwards fuels you like that is part of your motivation for not losing for for not feeling again. Do you think about that a lot. Has It stuck with you what I did after that fight was that I got a mental coach so since that FIFA I got the mental coached and the I learned to a have both to be better prepared before fights but should should think like that happened than than I'm prepared for that as well so I really feel much more comfortable now going out there and the and I feel like I'll able to perform closer to my ability itself working with him so really recommend that to everybody that's struggling with preflight nerve. Arab sort the persons off defied so mental coach assists is great if you can't find a google. Do you still work with him. Yeah I do. I just had a meeting with dimmer like a one hour ago. Wow in like this last meeting before the fight. What are you working on. We're talking about preparations for the fight week and making taking shortcuts up with the older stressful things away that everything is prepared for me to go as smooth as possible the things that I'm going to be thinking about on fight week and the issue is Asian and so on so I wanna be as prepared as a camp for the week ahead them what's coming in. Did you suspect that for as long as you fight you'll work with someone like this absolutely but the work was more intense than the stark and they'll I have learned to muster muster many of the techniques that we working with so we're not seeing each other as often as before but more like briefly and these reminding me of a couple of nothing send the and so on site. I believe I'll continue to talk with them about the nuts not as much as in the beginning. Will you talk to him before the fight at all or or was it. I think this was it but he might have made that. I can call them at any time. They should need anything so I. It's a security for me. If if I need us and just curious because I'm fascinated by in this in this winning streak was ever a moment like the night before fight or the day of a fight where you felt you really needed to talk to him and you and you call them once. I can't remember but I don't think it was. I like acute situation or anything like that. I just I think that we had a shot at the hotel room and the it just reminded me out a couple of being said I need to think about so usually work is don before I travel and such a big difference for me right now I am I am before so it's even hard to put words on important that because before me so the winning streak now makes sense ever since you started working with them. You're undefeated four. No one of those wins came against David Branch. Did you hear last week that he's been suspended the two years by Asada Yeah. I think that's my second appeal. I think Bradley Scotland suspended as well so I got two of those guys right now. Did you suspect anything with him with when you fought him. I mean it was a short fight but did you did you think of anything like that. No you know I'm very careful about the judging people from the performances or deluxe or anything like that I think ever a little bit to talk to you but when it comes to mentioning people name seeing the in doping situations so auber careful with that you should not take anything from anyone that especially if they hasn't hasn't proved guilty also so right now one eighty five is very interesting because pollock Pulkovo. Excuse me had that big win against your Romero back in August and you're having this fight so close to the middleweight title fight which is in a week from your fight October fifth costs us says he's flying out. There says it he's been invited. I know you think if if you went on Saturday you should get the next five. What do you think do you think it's going to be costs a I in. You're probably going to have to fight someone else this if somebody's injuring themselves on probably the one getting in there because cost. I won't make the way the I if if it goes like scheduled at believe Costa as the next one you know he's on the heated and the big name and a lot of hype so but I'm happy to have a elimination fight with him if they want to. If not the I will wait for my turn but I know that I will fight for the title eventually and But definitely it's. It's me or cost for next time so I if I beat can on there. Are you saying that you're going to fly to Australia after your fight in Denmark to be standby fighter. Is that what you want just if you would ask me to okay. They haven't though right okay this time next year. Have you fought or will will be on the verge of fighting for the title yeah for sure that's online. That's my goal and that's my vision next year. I'm going to be the USA championship man a I think it's realistic through to think in the end of next year there will be a possibility so yeah. Let's see my mind all right well. The next step is Saturday against jared cannon near by the way congratulations. I think you recently signed a new contract with. UFC correct that's correct well done yes well done so a a lot of exciting things for. Jack the joker Hermansson and they continue Saturday on ESPN plus against Jared Cana near main event in the first ever event in Denmark. Thank you so so much for doing this. Before you fly out Jack I really appreciate it and all the best to you on Saturday. Get so much aerial speak to you all right there. Is the joker always smiling. I love that Guy Guy always in a great mood always happy and what a fascinating story about working with a life coach great stuff there from Jack Hermansson. What did you say Corporate Jake. Did you say something to me. Okay so should we wait. Wait now right okay but of the a change of plans if you will we're going to actually be joined in a couple of minutes by Daniel Cormie and then we're going to be joined or we're going to air interview with Jorges Maswadeh so five minutes from now we'll talk to Daniel Cormet and then will air at the Mazda del interview. I appreciate everyone tuning in our show by the way don't mention it enough on the the live version of the show the show does rear actually doesn't rear like a one a one our version of the show a cut down version that corporate jake and the rest of the team back their work on airs usually at around midnight on ESPN two but there's some new elements to it that don't air on this particular my turn back the clock segment which I like very much in in this particular week we look back at the seven spinning back fist knockouts in UFC history and I didn't know this I don't know if you guys news but the first ever spinning back fist this knockout and UFC history was by schone Carter Mister International. I had no idea that he fought against the guy who is on looking for a fight now with Dana. Dana white friend on looking for a fight was actually the guy in the fight against schone Carter. I had no idea why didn't anyone tell me this. That's one of the best but of course it ends with the Steven Peterson knockout on Saturday which was actually a counter to a spinning back fist from Martine Eighteen Bravo counters it and nails him an unbelievable turn of events. That was a fun car on Saturday. I enjoyed it. You didn't Aldana looked phenomenal. Maybe her best performance to date in the UFC couldn't help but think of Henry pseudo as I was watching Brandon Marino people like to laugh at Henry so who know pseudo people like to call them cringe and make fun of him and all the stuff none of this would be happening without him if he would've lost to T. J. dillashaw on January nineteenth of this past year in Brooklyn. There is no flyweight division. It's dead like I don't think enough. People realize this and there's a very good chance at Henry's bruce who'd never fights again at one twenty five that way cut takes a lot out of him had he lost that fight to Tj. They closed up. Moreno himself himself had been released went to Ella fe brought him back. Nave Got Kaikoura France Sergio Pettus look great in his fight on on Saturday and return to one twenty five. There's there's a legitimate case be made that if it wasn't for that one particular win and in everything that he did leading up to that fight and everything that he did after that fight in the build up to that fight there is no one twenty division anymore isn't that amazing the guy singlehandedly and I know he currently he's on the longest victory tour of all time every single event whether it's an Abu Dhabi Mexico God knows where I mean he's probably GonNa be Denmark this weekend. As well every single event it seems like he's they're sitting in the front row huffing and puffing with a a replica medal by the way not the the real medal but it's real gold but it's just not the actual goal metal. I'm not even sure if he got the gold the middle back remember a couple years ago. He was in that fire. He was at this retreat somewhere in northern California. It was in that fire and the whole thing you know his whole room. Tom went up in smoke and he actually lost the gold medal. He brought it there because he was there to do some promotional appearance so I don't even think he has the real one back because I think he told me that he has to go through a whole process get back but someone made him this replica out of real gold so he he shows up to be events with it and whatnot he he deserves a lot of credit. It's unbelievable what he's been able to do. I suspect that his next fight will happen. In the first quarter it could could be against Dominick Cruz. I know they've talked about Joseph. Bene- feeders but I think it's a little too soon right now to to pinpoint who he's going to fight because does he still rehabbing that despite his his world travels he is still rehabbing that shoulder my colleague Mark Monday over at ESPN okay. I'm sorry Moreno. Someone's getting really mad at me. I Apologize. I guess I was calling marina more no more no more ran no this from mark Monday of Espn Dot Com he spoke to your Rodriguez. Your call the beginning of the show we spoke to Jeremy Stevens about a an incident that happened yesterday at the hotel as he was leaving. We have the son okay. Here's the sound from Jimmy Stevens and then I'll tell you well you Rodriguez said about it do not have got into it at the hotel trying to come up and be cordial. He comes up and he's he's trying to maintain the. I came here to compete and fighting on. It's like shoving back across the hotel and get into it with a little bit. Where did this incident happened in in the lobby and someone that you're saying that this wasn't like the wings or anything this was when you guys were away from the cameras bringing down my back checking my bags win housing Jospin Food and then we're taking often comes up like all core drilling giving thumbs up like hey everything okay and I comes up like shake. My hand is trying to be like a gentleman. I get it and you start stop. Shitting is I really I'm not from Trice School Brown on industry. I'm here to compete. I'm here flight. I'm here to kill you. You know so right away. My my mentality was back the fuck up so I shoved him on his coaches his dad his parents. Nobody's just how what will so that was Jeremy Stevens side of the story this from Mark Monday just posted right now on ESPN DOT COM rod quote. Rodriguez told the peon that he went up to Stevens quote unquote nicely and asked how his I was Rodriguez said Stevens told him it was fine and Dan. Rodriguez said he asked him if it was okay now what happened in the fight things escalated from there quote he pushed me like a little expletive and I just told them you live the rest of your life with that in your head. If you could continue and didn't shame on you quote. I'm ready for the tests and the proof. If I'm wrong all apologize in public no problem that's more from your Kariya's all right. That's the story there. We'll see if they actually make the. Let's not do I just want to get to do. We all right all right so in a matter seconds. We're going to be joined by Daniel Cormier. This is the last time we heard from him. This is following. UFC Two forty one in Anaheim last month at the Honda Center a lot of times you based decisions Asians in we based decisions and emotion. I don't WanNa be that guy you know so. I WANNA go back and talk to Selena. Talk to my coaches and we'll we'll figure I figure out what what's next okay so everyone wanted to know after that flight would be next for Daniel Cormie. Of course he has talked about retiring at forty years old world wondering if that was the last time he would compete in the octagon last week. Dana white tying several media outlets that they were working on a trilogy not fight against CPA Mitch. Let us not speculate anymore. Let us talk to the man Daniel Cormie. WHO's kind enough to join us there? He is how are you you. I'm doing good what you what you guys I. It has been awhile. DC's meanwhile since that particular location was on the show. We haven't done one from that. Spot in your house so it's great to talk to my man and before we get to anything. I just want to send my condolences. We've obviously talked in private but you know because you lost your father there recently. I know how much he he meant. You just wanted to send my condolences to you and your family and ask you. How are you doing several weeks later after the news of his passing okay. It's the hardest thing I mean. My Dad was was a fantastic man and you know he really sacrificed a lot in life to try to make a life for us in to lose him was was terrible. I mean it was just so fast. You know we went from. We went from a year in about him. Having a form of cancer March Colon two April. They told us that radiation that gotten it and he was good in in two amine early euro. You guys did that interview in east exceed in June like the thirtieth in July. I my sister city look sick so he took him to the emergency room. They told him that he had the real bad from cancer. We just didn't know also also home of July. You know we dealt with trying to find they told my father yet six months soliven so we the whole month scrambling trying to find second opinion everything else to try to help him but two days after the guy did that interview it just it's just creating out fast at disease can run through somebody especially a small man like my dad. How much was he and his his illness on your mind as you were preparing for that you didn't speak about this in the build-up. But how much were you thinking about it. This is a very slippery slope right because you know I don't want to discredit steep in any way I want that disclaimer claimer Prom. It's hard whenever you're dealing with a lot of family issues but he he won the fight you know and he would have won the regardless but you well. It is what it is. You know we all have our problems in my burden was the only time I think you know more than anything thing area. You know like when we when I was going into the fight the week prior about a week and a half beginning to the hospital in a second home Sunday before to fight so when are too on my father got sent home in are everything's good you know and I thought no. We're going to continue to try to find out what was happening. You know that giving him some medication rigid very hopeful and and my parents normally right front row for the fights and you know they weren't called before to fighting on it was back in the hospital. You know some lot to deal with but ultimately steeping wanted to fight and he wanted to regardless. I guess you know we know you. You take losses hard. You wear your emotions and your heart on your sleeve and we saw the clip of you afterwards we saw in the cage. You're very emotional to deal with the loss lawsuit. You were so disappointed about the result but then to deal with a real life thing like like your father's illness in the span of a week. I was just concerned for your well. Being how are you you handling. It all mentally emotionally. How are you handling those two traumatic things happening in the span of a week. One loss is a hard on me than it was very difficult but you don't sleep as a good guy great father and you wanted to fight but I'm you know I just went back to Louisiana and I think when I went home knowing what I knew fight was the furthest thing from a mind. I went back to my mom's My father was just really sick. When I was the only concern so you know I think I think it keeps things in perspective a little bit you know each able to put things in perspective you know like much as I love love sports everything else you know my family and everything is It's so much more important beyond in that moment I would have given any title any amount of money anything. Try to just help my dad. I went home to that. You know so ideas put things in perspective the dealt with my family you know for everything spent eleven days in. Lafayette somebody dying years and you know I got spend like the following week at five with my father in the next week with my mom you know as we prepare for the funeral funeral services so it just really helped to put things in perspective anyone. I came home after everything now I have to deal with the effects of the loss you know but it was really put off for a while because more important things to the precedent into my focus from from from the fight in the midst of all that you went to speak to the Texas am football team just days after the why did you do that. I was talking to Jimbo Fisher to coach and he said boys. Do they want men do they're supposed to do you know there was a lesson to be learned. In that moment you know that I made a commitment to those kids to speak to them and it was my job in it was what I was supposed to do. You know I'm not a kid anymore. Kids do whatever they want. Men Do what they're supposed nice to do. in was supposed to go there in on Thursday. I spoke to some veterans all overcoming hardship you know and I house dealing with it. In the face. All versity in infiltration said this he goes D. C. Loss biggest fight of his life last Saturday and he goes you think he wants to be here. He goes. There's no way that's why zero and men do what they're supposed to do and so I'm wondering now here. We are a month and a half or so removed from the flight have you. I had the chance or did you have any interest in sitting down and watching the fight from start to finish no I haven't I watched the Fourth Rama to fight that that was it because ultimately that's what those are the things that I need to accept. I think when you are dealing with it's something that's hard losing a fight. You need to see a don't cloud your judgment with any success you may have had deal with the underlying. Ryan issue deal with what ultimately led to the result and would alternate led to a result was was was me doing certain things than the end of the fight just truly ignoring all advice from the some of the best minds all sport evolved could have your Mendez Zindel Sanchez Sanchez Leandro Vieira it. Was You know it was me not listening that got me beat and ultimately I deserve to lose that fight because if I will continue to win that fight or one that fight it would not have been the lesson that I need right now in my life. What should you have done differently in that round. you know. I think just been a little more cautious. You know the issue for me. Is I fought very emotional in that fight. you know just fair very emotional in you know obviously that's it's easy to do. Whenever you're landing just everything you throw in but also just just just out there essentially fighting you know I'm I'm generally pretty guy seems to the point that had times booed out of building you know but everything we trying trying to do was what you saw in wrong number one and then at the end of it was just like you know. It was crazy when you say you so. You've obviously been there with guys that you don't like John Jones. I mean that's one of the greatest rivalries in history the store. Why were you fighting so emotionally steeped. We know that there was some friction but why not you know I think you know when you're when we get to this fight area like everything was going so well beautiful e sixty peace and everything was going so well it just the the world was at my fingertips. Simpson but on the backside I was going through so many bad things and I think I think you can't control. We'll anger the no one we had. We you know we went to the arena by five thirty and I called my parents to say bye and then I'm GonNa talk to mopped fighting back in the hospital. Also what you know what's going on in in again. I'm really not trying to take anything using away from meal. TRAJAN corn adjust loss but I felt like I did a lot of things better. Did you feel like in hindsight. You got a little overconfident often because you were looking really good like that. First Round couldn't have gone any better and I remember them telling you corner. Put Your hands up. You know respect power. Did you feel like you're feeling yourself a little too much. I think I just didn't feel the threat in the honestly I didn't feel the threat in wrong. one-two-three the three. I think Steve did a great job. It was to hit me in the stomach right and I was feeling them but they weren't really hurting me like they weren't hurting joining me but then the very last one before finishing hit with one right over my rib and when he hit the river tight my belly in like my hands drop up and then he admitted a beautiful combination of top that was just great work by him you know and it goes to the fighting mind for mindset in the the ability of St pay me. Oh Ch- you know he went you went hard body shot in and I'm like the one that hurt me. instead out of chasing that again he went up top. That's the one that it may across the tin and that's my started to staggered. I've generally been very good about not allowing that follow up strike to hurt when it went. I'm hurt but this time he was just so straight. Chris that it land there was nothing I just didn't see it when you watch the fighting in particular that fourth-round which you said you watch and then you see him win and celebrate and do the dance and all that what does that do for you inside. You know it's weird because it doesn't anger me. It really doesn't anger me. You know I mean a guy a guy at his moment. You know a guy had his moment especially in that way I mean this guy got hit a hot. You know and yet to go through a lot lot of sustained a lot of damage any any any wintered got the job done so I mean love celebrated. That doesn't doesn't affect me. I mean he had to stand through me and brock listener. do what we did last year so yeah. I I didn't I didn't I didn't affect what affected me with my kids. You know my wife looking at the face might children and those are that's what affected me wasn't doesn't his celebration or watching what my children went through is what hurt that hurt. I just felt like my whole whole life. I live for protecting my family. My wife and my kids and I just couldn't believe I put him through that. You know and they've been the fights. Would they never seen the other side in That's what hurt 'em dancing known them. Celebrate Nets to make you WANNA heavyweight champion of the world. Would your kids say to you after the fight. Sh It's it's tough you know. My son is a he loves. The sport loves fighting and I sit down cry and you said I'm trying not new trying US trying his hardest to not cry and he just could not turn it off. I think that's the first time that that he was so emotional and didn't know how to deal with his emotions in the you know did. I thought he was very brave. In very strong in those situations situation 'cause they're. They've got cameras pointed in their face because everybody wants to see their reaction to and I thought my son was very brave. I thought my daughter was very brave. The wife was very bray in a sense that they were the they saw that I was hurting in. They were trying to be strong to make sure that I knew that my support system was was very very very strong and they were they were. GonNa try to hold me up even hurt him just as bad but I thought they were break. I was very going back now. I'm very proud of were as you know. One of the big narratives going into that fight was whether or not it would be your last night and I saw a clip of union in the Locker Room afterwards where your son asks you. Is this your last fight and you said you didn't know and so obviously the big question. Canales a month and a half later. Have you decided if you will keep on fighting. You know I just never again can't like I didn't have time to really process decision. Immediately knows more deal my family. My Mom lost my godfather in May which brother in the husband in office also as more worried about my family didn't really precision assistance in then. I got a call from Dana couple of weeks ago. We spoke at length in he talked me I of the front and and then I ask questions about microwave because obviously if it's his job to do also and that's the way I'd WanNa. Do you know I I I said let me think about when talk to Bob in the Wayne. Ravi Air was endo and my wife knows they are all like to see whatever the side will do. It was Selena you know she goes you. Don't invite their. This is not how you in. She will lose again. You know it's just meant to be you know but for you to be fighting as you did even with the worst fight Iq McHugh in the history of your career. You managed to go out ahead going into that room that you laws it. Also you go fight your fight. You Know Hyun moves even when you fight your fight. You know we're fine but you don't want him like that because I don't want you to do this now in in four years down the line and start start going. I should have did inside to do it right so I'm. I'M GONNA fight this guy again in the mind inches to fight him in the right way and hopefully that's enough to get my hand race but I will fight him again. You know win or lose. I'm not fighting whiten again here so beauty only time that I ever stepped foot in the off guard again so the next one is officially the last one next one will be the last one and and it's against steeple it has to be sleepy no-one house managers and is that offer on the table right now from the AFC. Do they want to make that fight. Yes they WANNA make that flight. They want me to sleep in yeah. It was fantastic. It was a fantastic quite for all the wrong reasons. It didn't have to be a fantastic to fight but it was and I'm not saying I can just go grab sleep. Emil blown down it will no but I can do a lot of things better than I did on all the seventy and is there a date attached to that fight right now as far as the offer concerned no there. Isn't you know I think sleep is dealing with awesome stuff. you know I'm ready. I'm ready to go whenever the sooner the better for me. you know they after the fight. I spent thirteen hours or the Disneyland. I want my home. I had thirty eight people from Louisiana that had never been so. I took a model Disneyland and the I'm ready to ago. Just waiting for a date to to preeminent will fight again. I know they're looking for a main event on December fourteenth. Is that too soon or would you be down down to do that as well. I'd be down to okay. We're GONNA becomes available. That will work for me. I'd be happy to get myself Freddie to go as you may. Recall was quite the journey to get to the second fight with brock stuff and you had back surgery as well. Is there any part of you that is concerned that steep it will try to turn the tables on you and make you wait and make you sit this one out and drag it out to the point where you'll say. I don't WanNa wait and maybe you do are you just can wait as long as possible and get that fight. I'm not gonNA wait as long as possible if he doesn't want to fight them okay. He doesn't WanNA fight but I I didn't necessarily make him wait purpose. I quoted awaiting actually because I had back surgery. I didn't have the go ahead to just go just the moment. I got the go-ahead to start training. I did you know what I did as best I could but the reality is like with my back. I probably could could awaited more time for it to heal but I felt like okay I. It's functional enough to go. I'm sure you WANNA fight so it's what I do. I love to compete in once. I thought I was good enough to train. I said Okay I'll I took a fight. You know so it wasn't because I was like trying to mix deep a meal wait now. I just had back surgery in December and can do anything until April and I started training camp in Maine so I went soon as I could in your talks with Dana waiter the UFC brass. Your management have said that they've offered this to St Bay. Do you know how he feels about it right now. They just told me they're going to go up. CPI that's it you don't. I'm only worried about what I can control. I cannot control servicemen it. I get a fight offer identified offered in it's up to the other side. That's I'm only going to worry about what I can control. Yeah I mean I'm not in a place right now. Area where I'm chasing. I'm waiting. I'm begging. I'm not doing any of that stuff. I don't need to either. We're GONNA fight. A We won't fight so it is I mean I'm going to see what happens. I mean I hope he fights you know. I hope he fights me. Run it back like arena back with him. I mean I didn't necessarily have to you know I could have that big win last July and and said wow that was beautiful in Walker Mario's. I imagine of the brock listener thing was on the table for them. They probably did it to such a massive fight but the the moment. They told me he wasn't fighting us. It'll play as I said from the moment I stood for any reason. Bribe doesn't fight. I'll give him this rematch so rightfully deserves and I did had you won that fight in August now. Could you tell us in high tech. Would it have been your last one. Would you have walked away at that. Point probably would have been done yeah. I would feel good to walk away from the sport only reason I'm fighting against a guy that beat me in IBM. That's breath. I love to compete and I don't WanNA finish like this. I'd say because even if I go to him again at least I will fight my fight. It's the released feel good enough to beat me under those terms didn't it is what it is. I've lost four. I've lost a lot of times. I've lost targets. Angie's arrested matches. Sometimes I'm just not as good and I can deal with that but at least let me give my best effort four. NFC as coaches Vancouver yeah and I can I had seen a guideline congratulated tone great job you know like I liked Marksman Ellie L. E. N. coaches. I think are great guys. I told him congratulations on getting a job done no hard feelings. I just know that I just want to give give my best effort. That's it and you know what's going to happen right. They'll do the trilogy. Let's say you win all right one more against Jon Jones. You know that's coming Dana. The white is openly talked about that. This is what he's going to offer you but you're saying for sure. There's only one left at this morning. Junan fighting steeping yields and that's that's it for me. I don't know what are hard to convince the ground. I WANNA go fights opinion. I I WANNA do that. I WanNa do it right. I want to meet my I WANNA go up there and and just do what I'm supposed to do. Fight the wealth to fight and and get my hand rates and if I don't again as long as I fight my fight and I played the way they're not capable of fighting. I'm good with it and so here's my my big question. You said you fought emotionally too emotionally in that in that second fight considering that you've lost to him and considering everything that you've been dealing with your father. It's going to avoid not fighting mostly considering that. It's the retirement there's a lot now going into no listen listen when I was going through. Nothing should ever nothing could ever mashed ahead. You know nothing could ever be worse than what we dealt with a family so I don't worry about that and plus. What are you going to do the same thing again lose again. I mean what does that do for you. Driving do better. It's all you can do is try to I try to give lessons all these young men and women that I that I need to try to live by now. as as I chased his potential earth fight we found out after the fight. I didn't know this. I don't think many people knew he doesn't really talk a lot. Did you know that his father was also dealing and with with cancer as well going into that fight no I did. It's pretty that's it's crazy right yeah. That's that's that's what I don't like to think about that too much. Okay it just feels. I don't like to think about that too much because I never. I'm so happy that him and his family don't have to. I'm so happy that they don't oh I really am I don't. I don't want anybody to go to a winter but that's a weird one very very odd very weird. How is your body Eddie feeling after this issue the hand issue like forty years old now. How are you feeling. Are you up for another training camp. Tom Hardy aren't the the reason I would like to go. Sooner than later is because I feel great you know like I don't feel as if I'm run down or anything. I didn't hurt myself in the fine. I didn't hurt myself in the camp like I just feel good and it'll be better than just give rolling right away. better get rolling right away. Will you do anything differently as far as training or are you sticking with the same guys in the same same spot with the same kind of game plan you know. I think my coaches did a great job of getting me prepare. I just didn't execute. It's on me. You know it's it's very simple to could you watch a guy. in how bean just executed the game plan that was put out in front of him in look at how well he fought. Oh you know it's it's a matter of executing things that you are training with your coaches. My coaches had me prepared but they're so changes. All spend spend more time with with my strength conditioning coach off Guy Care McCoy was a two time Olympian. He was the head coach at Stanford Head Coach University of Maryland. He's GonNa come down in really overseas. The Russell portion of my training camp a guy that I've known since I was on the team and he has no problem saying hey do this better or do this different Is this a real voice a true voice that I can he will tell me everything. I need here in the Russian department. I've got guys that really speak truth to be Rosendo does Bob. It does all of those but it'll be good to have that common voice from office back in two thousand one of the most high level arrests. We have in the country country to really oversee what I'm doing in that aspect of my game. Will you watch the whole fight in its entirety before the third one or do you have no interest. I we'll okay I will. I think when I think when I do it'll be a matter of accepting everything that happened. I think it'd be a massive mistake. If I did watch it but I will at some point I will not will find the things that I did well. In the bad in on there were a lot of things I did. I think I gotTA respect this. I gotta respective and it's great to land at this at this at this insane percentage of strikes but let's do a lot less of them. I guess and I was surprised that you went to Vancouver. What was that like being back so soon working at a fight being around other people you just mentioned seeing steep as team but was was it tough to be back so soon or did it actually help lead you to this decision like missing it again. It wasn't even about missing the fighting. It was it was it was Kinda getting your head on the whole you know it's just kind of worn everything that you're going through and again. I scheduled to work a month after my fighting wooded. I'll tell you before we'll do men do men do. They're supposed to do and that's what that's what I did. You know I wanted to work and I called the fights. In in in I came you know every damn surrounded by people that love me dear to my wife is an angel angels. She loves me so completely and she's helping me get through all this and eventually you know it always gets better. You know so that's kind of how I feel right now. I feel much better than a few weeks ago. You're not supposed to you personally and you know. It was not good. You know I'll feel better today. I did a while back so for those that missed Daniel Cormie moments ago said that he is ready and willing to return for one last fight will be against steep amiach. He wants that he wants that third crack but that's it after that he wants to right that wrong and is ready as soon as December fourteenth that is tremendously exciting a lot of exciting things happening your life. The saints got back on track. Your guy drew brees is out teddy. Bridgewater drew who no big deal many a d. C. is doing his thing Doron Win October. Eighteenth Kyle crutch mergers got signed by Bell tour. GonNa make his debut a lot of exciting things but dare. I say this clip right here to me is the most exciting of them all look at Dan Dan himself look at this man. He gets shot by thirty three. What will you step into my the man who you step into feeling myself. I'm good. I'm clap what it's thirty three going to step the Dan Dan like that. What do you what do you feel when you see your son act like got a little swag a little pep in his step and they get those steps to him. What does that. What does that feel like to see that I think like I think like who is a WHO is. This boy is out of his mind. You know it's great man. All you ever want a boy's boy. Talk little boy that I don't. I like his swag when he got up. He amazes me every day in everything he does. My daughter just had this fantastic. These just unbelievable performances at the gymnastics gymnastics competition a couple of weeks ago is just so crazy like watching my children grow into themselves. You know I love watching Daniel in that football fuming. He loves it. He loves the contact. He loves the tackles but it's not just him. I got like five five rutger's on the football team in the you know I've got these clips from all making these great plays Bradley Kato Liam Liam Leiva Daniel. They're they're all making these fantastic tackles in. It's like watching. Those kids do so well watching low. Dan Get up there after he makes a play. Hey you know what I love. The celebrations not being right. He's GonNa clap himself and walk back to a thirty three kind of gave him the show the ball that was so funny. It's it's great. I it that those things make me so happy. Those are the things that are that that gets you through the tough thing. I want to kick gymnastics six and I hadn't been for a while and she round off does complete back flip. I'll call her mama. needling what will start happening been for a while all but I watch him in there just making me so provident. I'm so happy and so proud of what my kids are becoming and on top of that beginning September twenty eighth on the platform that I built ESPN plus which I'm now sharing with Alexa view jail and others new episode of detail featuring Israel Sonya how about this little graphic right there the last style benders September twenty eighth of course just days before his title fight against Robert Whitaker. You like doing this. Are you enjoying it. I love detail. It's so far on in its soul. It's so great to watch the fights would from a different perspective in just truly explain to people what's happening in mixed martial arts now I can go into. I can give you terminology that you'll never understand but I wanNA. I want to explain this to the next fighter. That wants to be me that wants to win two championships in the AFC are championships in other places. I want to be able to tell them. These are things that you need to be taken from this. This guy in this guy in this in this guy to try to build yourself into the fighter that part B. is great in the most beautiful thing about detail is if people all say well to the masses disguise better. This guy's better well they show not necessarily for this show is for the guy that wants to be a world champion and that's what I love most about Kobe in his his brain. Kobe is mine like don't worry about what people think worried about that kid that zero zero. That's one in two zero. One three in Ed kids says you know what. DC does this so goods but also if I can explain et kid a fight like Israel in this sense our fight conor or be in this sense. That was my job in regards detail. The fans love it as that means that that's that's Lonzo. That's icing on the cake. That's extra. That's just a little bit extra but Tom is for that guy. You know four that guy that wants to fight become a world champion watching intake from any final message to stay good. I hope you recover goes. Well you know and and I'm glad you got your moment. I was weirdly. It's weird to be to see someone that worked so hard rewarded especially when it's at your expense bottle like that he had his moment at you. Don't ask me having to go through what I went through in terms of the sadness of losing the title so I want to get that back but we weren't a back you know eight true heavyweight rivalry. Dr Lori will carry a sport and I think right now we have that which steeper and I and I intend to go back in and get the job done and fight in the waited. I've been trained to fight the way that has made me so successful but of course my my career and hopefully for your sake were staying away from Anaheim at this time a when I left the the Hans Shunning sworn how driving the bus and like everybody in the cars just holding up the bird towards issue on the Senate what the horribly the haunted slow bed. I told my boss at TV. I'm not even calling fight air anymore. Because I may walk to the fall and break my frigging or some. The big little Selena actually told me not to go back there. She goes don't go back. They don't fight there. She Puerto Rican Aaron suspicious. They're superstitious as we are on the wheezy. Anna and I sent him on in a break it. I'm GonNa do it does not matter and she goes. Please don't go back got. One is just too much in listen. They say you should always listen to your wife. I should have listened. I learned my lesson well. You are listening to her. This time you're coming back. Thank you so much as always. DC We talked about a lot of things. Thanks for doing this on this show. Thanks for talking to us. I appreciate it and hopefully you get that fight sooner rather than later my man thank you so much. I appreciate it all right there. He is the the one and only Daniel Cormet will that. Shoji fight happened December fourteenth. We shall find out it is certainly interesting and there you have it. He is coming back. He has one more fight in him. He wants to fight steep a he wants that trilogy flight and now let's see they get it done sooner rather than later. I'm told St Base dealing with some injuries right now and the UFC would like for it to happen on December fourteenth. Let us see interesting stuff fascinating stuff from the always candidate the always open authentic Daniel Cormie alright so let's end on this go from. I'm Daniel Cormier to perhaps the hottest fighter in the sport today or Hey Mas Vidal is enforced. Go as I said on Saturday. He could do no wrong last last week. He was in New York. I had a chance to sit down with him. At the seaport studios in New York City where they've filmed get up we went face to face to-to-to so we were sitting in the same room this time and we spoke a lot about his past a lot of things that I didn't know about about the rise the Cup of one Jorges Maswadeh here's my conversation conversation with the man who will meet Nathan as on November Second Madison Square Garden November Second Madison Square Garden. UFC Two forty four four one of the most anticipated fights in MMA history this man for him as well against Nathan for the title. How are you sir uh-huh gory aerial often. You're dodging me. You're saying that you're going to do my show. You don't show up. You're seeing it'll be on camera on the now. I got you in person. Finally I you know I love you. I I just from from the world itself. I say you know isolated from but I love you. May Not I wouldn't be here. You know what I can't stop thinking about. As I say November second four I think about that as well. We'll get to that in a second. You've been doing this sixteen years. forty-five pro fights going into this year. How the hell did this happen going into this year going into this year your last flight. You didn't fight in two thousand eighteen so you didn't have a lot of momentum. You're out doing the reality show. Your last flight was at. MSG Not even close to the main event not even close lost that fight if you told me that night or he might as well in a year and a half half is going to be main eventing MSG and one of the biggest fights of all time. I wouldn't have believed you. Would you believe you that game. Bird wanted to believe but that game is no longer with. This guy got buried a long time ago. It's this guy right here. You know so that guy wouldn't believe you. This guy knows what's going to happen on November second. How'd did you get rid of that guy. We had to catch a body where he's no longer with us. You know but something rose better I I just had the pro shut down a lot of negative program out of things in my life my outlook on certain things that I had to change in and and with Dad's come the success that I got no not as you know also like you said. I've been doing this for sixteen years so I got a lot of people don't know I've been sharpening tools a lifetime. You know I got more than sixteen. Sixteen Years in the sport is sixteen years pro been amateur for some time to so is just literally lifelong journey you know what did you say negative things like what let's say anything negative like my pants. You always filled with candies. I got kids candy snacks and stuff or snap APP. No more veggies foods for everybody then if if there's even the temptation finding that that's not what happens because the pantry still field with snacks but it's much like life life a lot of those negative things you're in the pantry. I removed him out of my life. I won't get into too much detail but there's a lot of things that are that are not part of my life. You know okay so that night like when you when you lose to wonder boy you have your call a moment where you're like. I need to make some changes here because I'm wasting my career. Definitely I need to make some changes but we got time time. We've got time well you. This guy was telling me before the you'd better come with the hot stuff like I don't usually we're. We're going to warm up. We're warming up you sit in the WOMA. Well some time passed in the fight. You know obviously heartbroken because the loss of everybody wanted to win against one of the boy. Oy And I can't get a fight at the time also got some injury so I told my manager in a nursing injuries that I got fix up a couple things and then get back to doing that process. Maybe maybe six months passed by. I'm ready to compete. Let's go. He's telling me on okay. Let me get you a fight. Some time passes by he gives me a call and my manager's is really good at trolling. I don't know if everybody knows this means so after putting me on numerous trolls he calls me and I go. Hey what's up and he goes. Hey Man I got this reality. Show so for you go awesome. I'm not in the mood for the troll today. Some time passes because he has the same proposition on the day. I WANNA fight. I don't WanNa be on the real world or crap. I WANNA compete. You know a man. I can't get you a fight ran on. Nobody's really WANNA fight. You know this gigs getting Sweden in Sweden the more you say no go there for a couple of weeks. What happens ends up being that I go for the show thirteen weeks and there's no phone mobile TV. I've said numerous times but this is kind of how I got to find out exactly what had to do. It sounds Corny as it may be but being out from away from everybody just by myself. I got to find me just listen into my voice not a million different opinions or some stupid song on the radio anything I just got to hear my own voice and and what I want done in my life before I close the chapter on fighting in these are some of the things I don't want it done in my life. I'm still nowhere near where have to get at but I'm pointing in the right direction. My my my mind body. Iden- Spirit is pointed towards the right direction for a long time in my life and my career show these last four years that I got she'll be a roller coaster very rarely watch. I'm GONNA snatch everybody. Nobody saw every time I fly. I love people when I fight you know that I just took their breath away. I love that feeling so he's last four years. You're going to be going to be there's going to be something wild man so in the end the reality show must save your career saved my career say not reality show because I could have found this in but it helps out forbid in jail you know just having that that who moment that constantly being when myself finding out here my voice making a detailed so plan on what I'm GonNa do what's left of my career so even though you you saw the light so to speak and you had the plan to see where you're at now to see the kind of year that you've had I the 'til fight which let's be on going into that fight. You know it was a fight but we didn't expect this explosion. Then of course what happened July and now it's happening in November is part of you. It's like Dan. I can't believe it's actually happening divinely fulfilling these dreams that I know I'm kind of mad at myself took so long so as my my good friend and manager did you because he knows that I had the capabilities and but I told them at the start of this year I also told him Amberg because you've got to have witnesses man I I just don't be caught and stuff in there. Everything I've done this year. Almost call it not really almost called it to a t to the few close to me that have been there on General Manager for American American top team Richard Puma Dan Hamburg on my manager along with my coaches. I've been calling in out of the police way before they get done so they're like in ten just like. I told Lisa so we got big plans. November second huge plains so have you call things that we haven't seen like other things that you call that. We haven't seen come to fruition yet yeah. I'm not a prophet but man you guys spot on with a couple things. I can't get into detail or some of them. I gue- fascinated by the higher ups. You're going to hear that I got this Sabah brainpower. The one killed me okay but there are other things. It doesn't just entered. The number on November second is is a gift to the world right so you had probably feeling that nate was gonNA since you've been foreseeing I. I wasn't sure on on the nate thing if it was going gonNA happen. I thought obviously it's a strong possiblity nate for starters of fighter more than anything I know he's chasing the money. Just send me but that guy wants the fight to get him out of bed with motivation. Motivation hit the heavy bag. I'm that guy you know why not because I'm the funniest the best looking at nothing not simply because I'm gonNA come to kill you five the chance and anybody Eddie fighting. He knows that that's not motivating enough. I don't know what is being said. This fight manage just speaks awesome yeah right now. I'm pretty heightened I could. I could go run five miles a hit the background on pretty like so. Where did the change come because there was a time where you were getting split. WHAT DECISION SPLIT DECISION UNANIMOUS DECISION. You're losing the close ones now. You're like five seconds. Don't blink knocking out until you feel like you've changed as a fighter later as well. Oh definitely definitely you're more aggressive not just that but like reverse engineer to my whole career numerous times but never in-depth death like I did this last time when I was in isolation under the stars just me got in the universe and I'd seen everyone on my decision losses in my head and and went back. How could I have one that decision. I was my first answer and then I immediately killed that person in thought and said why the Hell would I look for Wade out point a guy and should beat ending them like make a math formula so there's no judges involved and that's all I've been trying to do and that's what I'm GonNa do. What's left of my career like you said I am the poster Cheboygan split decisions that have the most split decision losses in the UC currently right now? It's not something that I'm proud of but it's true so taking that into consideration I had to it'd be like man. No matter what happens is not going to be known for that whether I had one though split decisions or lost some I wouldn't WanNa be that guy anyways that I was in such an hour competition. There's a lot of fights. I feel I've been robbed terribly in but it's just like man. I got to figure out the formula to execute these guys because when great sportsmen when triple-teaming aiming a great player. Let's say Michael Jordan. He finds a way to win. He finds a way to get those buckets. We gotta find a way not to get too decisions. I gotta find a way to eliminate opposition separate myself from the pack baptize people so there in outer orbit when they come back. There's no question of who better manage and that's that's all I'm trying to do. Separate myself from the pack so you mentioned something about when you're at the reality show and you kind of had a chance to speak yourself but it could have really been anywhere said something that kind of stuck with you said it could've could have been in jail. God Forbid Yeah. I said the Trim Joe because they'd be music TV sure in a lot of things from not that I'm not in any way shape but I I think a lot of people don't know this. You have spent time in jail about that. WHY NOT WE'LL SKIP THAT ONE. I'm just curious. Why did you go to jail. So is it just being a dumb kid. Let my surroundings. Maybe maybe you know a lot of a lot of things going up wanted the best decision some of them you no. I don't regret because it was like maybe fearful my life type things and I did certain things and whatever's part of my my journey my history you know I'm not and encouraging nobody to do in Vigo activities on Bass off my history but I had to go through to get here. You know feel a little something someone. I'd get here on unshakable movable. There's there's nothing fazes me. Nowadays you know. How old were you when I when you were at Disney world. I know the other Disney the complete opposite and those are rumors rumors I don't want to do that might not even be true. You don't talk about it. Skip okay can ask about your Father Eh. He has been to jail as well yeah well He. He's a very strong INS- instrument in my life and my career I grew up visiting him. Independence injury entry since for drug charges okay and his first sentence was twenty two years he did about eighteen of those years years so I grew up visiting him in anything you're straight eighteen years straight wow yeah eighteen and some change because then after that he's he's not American Cuban so he doesn't get deported so he's in another type of system for another year so really did a little bit more than that but this whole process. I grew up with them. I I was in this setting. He would tell me things that from that side of the world only know from that dark underground world in how not to get there and he would just lecture my mind of once you get here my son. This is quicksand. You're not gonNA do anything in life. You're not going to get a job. You're not gonna any so it was very grain than me going in the system seen how mess of it is and then hearing from him not in the show. I I think my dad. You know 'cause if it wasn't for him. Who knows maybe I would some of the things in life that that that I said no. I'm not going to be a part of it. I'm just going to spend my Friday nights at the gym and and get better on my take Megan sixteen years later. I'm human but when you were getting in trouble Mattie like was he like son. I'm disappointed ended. I tried to tell you for a fact man. It's hard when you're always that right. He's always been a best friend to me so him just saying like just giving me like a hedgehog like I remember being young visit him and then he found that I got into some type of trouble him just giving me like one of these. It would kill me. He didn't have to hit me screaming nothing so he definitely help guide me away from anything negative and so when he got out after eighteen years. Has he been cool since has he. He's been good. He's a standup citizen. What does he do now works for me. We work together a lot of times. He has a couple of little businesses but his life. My life is like a walk in the park compared his ear. This gentleman really had real hard life. He came from Cuba. The age of fourteen he stole a tire from a tractor turned it into a raft him his best restaurant at the time in his uncle's best friend. None of them were seen merchants or none of that. They just said we don't want to be told what her favorite color is going to be or what to watch TV so they left Cuba de uh-huh defected and they ended up somewhere in the Bahamas or the Virgin Islands. I forget and from there they got extract it to the USA. So that was fourteen at the time in all. Oh he knows is just streetlife from that time on he was in section eight housing project housing. He was in the worst neighborhoods possible with no guidance whatsoever so his life is something that there was so impactful to me just to hear like man good thing. I don't go through all that and you're here to guide me and that's the reason why I'm here the Times you know he's from Cuba. You're from Peru yes man. Where did they meet. They Miami Florida Okay and her life. Maybe a little calmer than his yeah until he meets him and then has this saw. Wah Was it. My mom only had one child and she said after you there'd be no more kids ever again again. Coming out of my wound justify this what she said just for the fact that one might come out being half of you know why. I wasn't invited the birthday party so I was like fourteen years old because I'm what I just have a lot of energies tough for me to sit here this long you know right. Now I really WanNa get moving and do something. I was very hyperactive as a kid beyond over the top you know you could tell a little bit mischievous troublemaker yeah okay and so early an insane amount of energy may mix with like bad intentions okay school. You'd get in trouble as well. Yeah not always finding stuff but I don't know maybe I broke something. Something crazy I disappear appeared for like a week and then I came back though so I I was a handful for my mother and did she ended up having more kids. No one really one and done wow brags about it. You know I I wasn't talking till I like family. Birthday parties wasn't allowed to like thirteen fourteen years old till they thought it was civilized enough to get reintegrated in the group again. Wow you're really excluded from everyone a little bit yeah yea that's wild teen. I would think and they started from the period of six like I don't know how long there was like Oh. We've got to control that animal when you bring them. You know I are your parents still together no no they haven't been together for ages. Oh really okay what happened. Just kind of I mean just imagine just an eighteen year. Try think was was long enough. I don't know married at the time they were married when he went in. I don't know how in love they were with each other the now at the moment because there's different sizes but I don't know I don't I don't know if it would last if you hadn't gotten in there or not I have no idea. Are you close your mom now. We're cool super cool we they know you're very close to your dad. Yeah my pops and my best friend new moms a super cool but my my my my my best friend so you see them a lot with me but I got a lot of loving Emma Rachel for my mom. She busted her but to get numerous times. She was working chat got a full time job at this dollar rental car place. Shed a part time job than a night. I remember she's to pack up like necklaces like she'd make necklaces all night along in our wake up like at two in the morning as a kid and see her working and be like man she just left to work came back from war in still working might not make ends meet and those type. I booth visuals installed a work ethic that you can go to the greatest Jim in the world American top team and ask any of the coaches there who's got the best work ethical one of the best work ethics and they'll tell you that's me man I I don't. I don't pull that knee off because I'm just so talented. I rep anymore than any human being walking this earth. I'm in there everyday day. GIMNASTIC repetitions my running my sprints my swimming. Whatever it is that I gotTa do I'm out working everybody in that room and a big part of that is because of my mother the work ethic that I saw that she she had wasn't saying to me you know and and I was at a young age and this impacted me no so that's how that's how strong over work I think that immigrant mentality they say now. It's trendy to say but it's true you know. She came over with a work driving them. When my dad went away shed to turn it up. Even more you know when you're going through sort of that uncertainty with your dad away and you get into fighting fighting around fourteen right. That's when you start dabbling with it. Yeah like thirteen fourteen years old. I really start trying to train places. I I started training since young. Maybe like four or five five years old. My Dad tells me but my mom was a conflict of interest. My Dad was like yes put him in that he could burn the nervous energy all that crazy azules stick him in the two three hours a day. GonNa come back a better human being my mom's like you're gonna make a more aggressive. Just GonNa make him worse so it was always like that turbulence. If I do bad in school that they take me out of the sport fourteen hours really like I needed that outlet and that was my outlet that was as crazy as it sounds growing up especially the gym where people are trying to rip your head off my safe zone always meant. It was if I had a bad day if I just biting get to eat for whatever we if anything happened if I go to the gym that does my safe zone so I always looked at the gym is like my temple. You know like my place of pieces. Craziness weird that sounds. What kind of house did you grow up in well. I grew up in different houses. Many apartments houses everywhere man lived in many places. Why'd you move around so much good question. I don't know but we moved around a lot. You know I've ever in some tough places where FBI I've been in some some rougher places man. I slept in my car for like four or five months before I got a couple of pro. Fights really had some cash used in your car in the coin. The parking lot slept a ginger longtime under into the ring under the rain for a while too you know for like a good two months and then bouncing from couch to couch and was able to afford a car. 'cause I wanna the fight had another place to sleep and I got AC. I'm set as an individual I am. I didn't let nothing stop me so young age. I didn't care if I had a house or if I had the right gear. Nah I just make it to the gym because it was my saves. Only didn't it didn't matter where I slept. It didn't matter what I was doing if I could just get to the gym and space off those three four. I wish I was like a kid all over again you know and I've done that throughout my whole life and have to pay off now. You know when you're leaving your car when you're essentially homeless people trying to mess with do because you're out in your sleep. Maybe maybe I wanted to corral somewhere safe. You ever have any situations where someone and tried to rob you. Come up on you this one car that I was in. They try to toilet what I was in the car. So I just lived here clicking thing. I'm getting robbed in there and cooking all the things that they didn't see me me in the back so I got out of the car. Obviously ready to kill somebody and they're like. Oh snap sorry about that you know and then hooked the car and stuff but that's about it when you're in these moments. You're nothing at yourself like man. What is this going to lead to at some point. I ever GonNa breakthrough here or am. I just going to be the guy who's jumping camping from place to place living from place to place at some point. You WanNa make you want to be a prizefighter right. You ever have moments of doubt where you're like. Maybe I just took the wrong path. This isn't going to lead to anything any money honey. There's a couple of those split decision losses those losses were I go. Wow this hurts man. I I put so much into my whole life into this into this camp into this actual fight and then you hear something like thirty one judge twenty seven for for him than other judges studied twenty seven for me than other judges twenty nine twenty eight for him so I leave you like lopsided then you go online and Ariel said I wanted to fight so and so I don't I want to fight the whole press online says when the fight and it puts you in those weird things you could go many different routes. The world is against me or I had an affair with somebody's daughter the judge and how they freaking hate me you could you could do all these things and you got to kind of be a little cheesy and be like man. I gotta find the most positive ositive weighing the least resistance to my success. You know that was just end these guys just gotTa finish them. I'm going to get better. I kept telling myself. I know oh I can do this. I'm going to get better is just a matter of time before everything falls in the place still hasn't fallen in place yet but it Wilson. Have you ever been back. Cuba with your dad. No no haven't been I mean he's not really he couldn't go and come back can't because he defected know that too but also he's aw like in the US. They don't deport Cubans because we have that embargo treatment you know sometimes they still do but he can't leave the country and then come back into the USA leaves. Yes take on okay yeah when when you when you see nate. Do you see yourself in him. In some aspects yeah I see another kid that man. This was his way out. You know the way to to generate money generating income and do nothing crazy. You know maybe maybe we come from similar neighborhoods upbringing. You know so you can see that trauma when he fights it. He's willing to push through the pain fatigue like a dog. It's doesn't matter to him when you when you were coming up that fight that you're like man or maybe even his brother because it feels like it was his brother for the longest time. Really these are the kinds of guys that I want to test myself again. I respect these guys either either one of them you know. I thought Menendez a long time ago so I knew about all. These guys are obviously Nichols. Find me a strike which he was a seventy pound champ. I was at one hundred and fifty I five nate was in fifty five but in the UC then when I came over nate went up and then he went down and it was kind of weird so I didn't really think that the those fights were going to materialize with these brothers but I always wanted him because I just knew like men that they we fight is going to be fighting. It's going GonNa be somebody that the fans are gonNA remember. People remember that day and they're counting in their calendar the mark down if you're MMA fan you're going to know about that because you're getting what you want. A fight fight you know guys at ain't GonNa quit that are going to give it their all push themselves to the to the brink. I'm sorry for Harping on this but I can't get over it. Your journey is so unexpected in the sense that in the fight game if you've been fighting for sixteen years especially if you consider boxing. Let's be honest double digit losses. Not all of them were deserve but that's what it is. It doesn't happen this late. Where you just explode now here you are. You're mainstream star. I see Lebatardshow. ICU on get up like you are a mainstream star. It doesn't doesn't usually happen this way like you could have been easily the guy who got submitted by Toby Imada in one of the craziest emissions that could have been you write. That could have been your legacy what happened to her. We must remember the guy who got submitted and you have somehow overcome all of that. It's amazing. I would imagine there was a period where you're like. Is that going to be me right now. It wasn't never thought that you never ever worried. I knew for a fact you know I knew for back without life had hit me so much harder than ending Eugene on my pro career life at the age like twelve thirteen years old at hit me way harder choked me out way harder than anything. I had come in contact with in sports world so I was like it's just a matter of time. I'm going to bounce back from this. I'm going to take that guy's head off and whoever else they put in front of me and slowly but surely I've been. I've been getting to that would last time. You saw that a modest mission mission. Maybe I don't know like Youtube. I remember seeing soap on highlight. Someone I saw and I just looked at eight and it took me back to those memories. The music and I didn't Wanna I remember feeling like I'm going to get out of here. You're GONNA get embarrassed when you watch it embarrassed and at the same time hold old badge of honor for myself because I know I was close to going out but the fighting me the that that like say that dog Ini was they now. We're going to find a way out of your. I didn't find a way out of it and that was the first time I was actually in a submission like that. I I didn't know nobody you better believe. After that day I got the best guy's that doing that submission because I didn't even know you could get some major from that position and man we drilled it in drooled and drilled so the point where if toby started in that position I'd feel comfortable to get out and it's just the character that I am kind of like a sociopath with these things like I just emerging myself in in and just torment myself till I get good at so you know I feel like so you said you're. Ansi got a lot of energy. You're fired up but I feel like you're also somewhat at peace because all this is happening to witness the fact I saw photo photo of you and Michael who I thought would never see eye to eye hanging out chummy. Did you bury the hatchet will might to me on my shoe hugh something like small but he went above and beyond when I was in my fight for literally we're in a real tight hall when he had to go this win and had to go that way and I was ready for anything you know. I don't of this guy's. GonNa come fight me. I don't know if he's just going to say exchange of words. I didn't know what he was going to do. In all he did is he came up to me said so. George kept walking this. She was like a day or two before my fight not he could've thrown me off course but him not trying to throw me off course showed me a lot of a lot of respect for him. I I just you know besides obviously he's a great fighter and stuff. You know it just showed me and I mean this is a real cool individual because you could try to destroy my mindset and I'm finding this countryman man you know and he didn't and that was real cool. I thought that was from the heart you know so yeah that we were able to talk and express each others things in a couple of Larry's and sociocultural also why we kind of buddy you know so so that that warms my heart. I was actually listening. You're in studio my show back in two thousand in sixteen. I don't know if you remember you were here to watch the NCAA wrestling tournament and we actually talked a lot. I just listened to the interview again just to remind me of what we talked about. We talked talked a lot about your roommate. Your friend and abyss being photo makes me think that this makes me sad that you and Kobe are beefing. This makes me said you guys were boy. You spoke so highly of him in that interview. I don't know if you remember but going to Taco Bell late at night. I mean we means individuals shared a lot of memories. You guys were real tree. At at some point I would've considered as real friends knowing that that he takes to the internet or online to bash me when I had never bash him and he just took the bashing whether it be for a facebook like or or maybe he's going to get ten more pay. Per View Buys Moon. We do fight if you would set our friendship like that so quick. We never had a friendship you. It was all say I thought we had a friendship but I could see from your end to minds. We were never cool man. You were just using me or whatever the hell you know sleep on my couch. Obviously you already knew who I was. So how would I get Kobe and you show I tell you about my Colbrad. Do with other radio shows you know so. I just feel like man. This is a punt and then to really put an end in the coffin ripped off. My coach didn't didn't pay money. My coach was training says he's an amateur all the way to the title. Rda and then after that just ripped them off when that happened he died so I really don't like the gentleman interviews because nobody knows who he especially if they're watching me they. WanNa see providing they don't WanNa see pure hugging hug. Some fans really know who this dude it. You know so that'll be the first time we address that peasant on this show but I thought we were friends. We we never y. Well you know if you were for a couple of dollars. You would throw my name under the bus or try to say things. We were never cool. You know I'm just because I spoke to Dustin on Monday and he didn't you want really WanNa talk about him. Either say what would happen if you see him at the gym and he's like you'll read about it and that was pretty much it. I don't foresee any sort of scenario where he could be allowed in the gym like how this is going to tear the gym apart right. If you invest in two guys who are so respected isn't a problem you even skipping the gun before you get to mean Dustin. Why was is this guy ever badmouthing Amanda. You know one of the greatest fighters ever. She's shake you. You don't have no respect for yourself main and once he started doing this Gimme. We started separating ways like okay like the whole hanging out with girls. He doesn't get girls. I want to one has it become so cool kissing tell like he's talking about who's having affairs various within this and that and then talk about women. I met this guy's father. He actually has a dad man. I'm surprised he acts this way. You know like like a punk literally just to get a reaction action just to get this people talking about it. I can't I can't see I don't I don't care for that. 'cause I know who he is in real life. He's not this. This character is trying no being in real life that he's a sex symbol or that. He doesn't have no feelings he's actually quite the opposite you know so it's crazy to see what people do literally for the the dollar they will sell their soul and that's part of the reason also took me so long to get here. I've never change. I've I've continued to be true to myself. You know that I'm the same person you interview ten fifteen years ago. I'm going to be that person if they like me cool if they don't it is what it is set myself dollar man if you win on November second life is not a when you win my apologies when you went on November second life is going to the beginning but has life changed already like you feel how's life changed. Dramatically may snap. I heard the same before the your last considered profiting you own cities or something like that they they say that's when I really noticed when my own city took like a general consensus of me you know yeah like I said I've been fighting forever and it's never been like a big the big thing over there where I can't go out now. It's like where I can't go out you know and so my own city so that's when I knew like wow I wanna take pictures like it's in California California New York a lot more like if I'm just here randomly. I get a lot more. I guess people are more way more educated Maine New York. Let's say hello -fornia or they just get the trends. I you know because it's it's in Miami. I've never felt that boom like how it is now and that's how I knew man. I must go onto the next year up. You know one one thing. It sounds silly but one thing that I really think helped. Maybe connect you with people. Miami is when you said super necessary in that press conference. It's a crazy thing that this has blown run up super necessary. I didn't know that super necessary was so Miami and you didn't know that because afterwards it seems like everyone's like all he's our guy he said super necessary and I heard the the other one was irregardless that everyone says over there a word that doesn't really make sense but was eight. You say you regardless I. I'm sure maybe in the heat of moment I do the super necessary I mean I guess people do say that I don't I don't know but you know that blew up right like that's the the guys on Lebanon on the TV. I know I'm GONNA get on social social media much. I don't know what blows up and then I just do my thing and then later on the good job like I cool you know did it. Yes we're like the three piece in the soda. Yeah Yeah I just I never would have thought it was gonna blow up like that. You know but whatever it's a crazy thing because now I feel like they view you as their guy three. Oh Five. That's what I'm saying now. Oh right now we're waiting for. The first one is there is a party that you guys are johnny-come-latelies now. You'RE GONNA show me love after years right. Is there a part of you. That's like where were you guys back. In the day when I was fighting for shark fights my boy said and not me yeah you feel that way of course I mean just think about it like from exposure aside lady fouls able to the UC while we could get the Miami market with this guy the UC would have been pushing me earlier so there is that part of me of Gosh I wish would've got behind me sooner but at the same time man gotta lines stars up for a reason you know in God's timing is perfect so he wanted to now you know so now it is how much we making for this fight did will making some people are going to be not some people. A lot of people won't be mad when they see and I would rather much say a lot of people are going to be happy seen how a lot of my co workers are already been taken to to the stuff when they actually find out these numbers. What are we talking figures big numbers and then and you can't say nothing because when you look at my resume what I've been doing not just forget about the UC's before coming to see you know because you've been covering for ages deserve of these paychecks and then some a long time ago a long time ago my we're making up for lost on November second not only my charging for this year's work but his compound interest I mean it's been building up for a long time. I'm this credit card. Companies coming in to collect -ment got some interest rates to apply unless somebody WANNA oh money money to pay per viewpoints. First Time is finally coming together. This guy knows too much. That's great is there. Finally it's awesome the behavior you know to to to look at their mountain peak and be like I know climbing push yourself get to the top. Look look down beat. I look at all that I did but I'm looking at high man. I got some big big plans man. I got some huge plains. I know you're fighting for this fictitious title but in the company and all its running has never had a bad mother every title all and we'll just can't be coincidence that I'm WANNA WANNA. People competing for this title is the hardest title out walking the plan. I mean they picked two dogs and that's for a reason in the history of this company. Have you heard him. Put up a I. I don't know why do you think so man. Why do you think well deserve but I'm wondering if in those plans there's a real belt in those pilots. Will it feel like you fell a short. If you don't get the actual title at some point or do you not care about that. You mean Blah on. I WANNA take everybody's heads in the top ten. I WANNA take their head in there so with it and if they have some Mickey Mouse title with their waste. I'M GONNA take that too. I just see my ma- maybe when I look at other divisions I could see ten like is he skills up when I look at my division I just see like I got my work out for me but every single one of these guys I'm GonNa Baptize them. I'm just going to separate myself from the pack in in his much way shape and form as possible so there's is somebody going out to spreading rumors that they have about worth getting for. I'm coming for you. That's it. There's no more to it. I'm coming for your head and I don't like the he say she say we're. GonNa find out the only way that the reason that's fighting you know so whatever they ended up doing with the SEC- fighting built championships and that side. I don't know but that bad motherfucker boat. There's going to be my main and after defended against whatever they deem to defend it against last one. WHO's the side on November second your your name. You're looking at the as you look at the the Alpha the the everything in Alpha and Omega is right here in front of you baby. Why would you ask such questions man. I know the answer. I feel like he would have a different answer. Do you know the answer to that. We'll we'll see November second. Who was the Alpha? I can't wait. Thank you my man. I appreciate it November Second Madison Square Garden. UFC Two forty four whore Hay Mas Vidal Nathan D as for the BMX title so there you have it. I think I've been interviewing doing horrible. Mas Vidal for about ten years. I think the first time was right after the Toby Imada submission loss in Bela Tor and I think that was my favorite one. The setting is just just amazing in New York over there. Thank you very much to the crew for allowing us to do the interview there that get up studio that little is amazing but just great insight into who this man is is how far he has come. This doesn't happen in combat sports. You don't fight for sixteen years and I've forty seven pro fights and then blow up. It doesn't happen headline. MSG doesn't happen happen and so this is such a unique story and I mean it's just wonderful to see these two guys in particular who are sort of mirror images of each other from very different parts of the country coming together at the headline this show in less than two months time. I want to thank everyone who tuned in. I also want to note that. December fourteenth card very much influx flex and don't count out the Irishman. Don't count them out. I think the fact that they put two title fights on that card rule them out for that card but it is imminent and we will see what happens but I think first quarter of twenty twenty things are going to happen here and we're ending the year on a very high note with the Carden Melvin the MSG card December fourteenth and then. I think interesting things are to come in the early portion of twenty twenty. We're even talking about the trophies coming back all very exciting. What's not exciting. We're off next week rob because Russia. I tried to fight a corporate. Jake said he wanted a day off so I respect that we got to honor the New Year but we'll be back in two weeks time and that will be right after the Melbourne show but you'll hear from me. I'll do the bad guy on Wednesday and the mayor reporters and even the radio show before two forty-three. Just this particular show off for a couple of weeks but don't worry you'll still see a lot of me and you'll still probably leave very sick of me by the time we return in two weeks all right. We're at a time. What a fun show. This has been what a memorable show great way to go into the bye week so to speak. It reminds me of the buffalo bills going into Foxborough next week. Are they play in Foxborough. I don't even know they're going to win obviously but I don't know if it's going to be a wrote winner anyway anyway. It's been a fun one. I WanNa thank everyone who tuned in WanNa. Thank everyone who stop. I want to thank vivid seats for being a proud sponsor of this program. Graham one of the smart ones out there. Thank you very much Carlos. sparce congratulations to her on the big win and hopefully she stays safe in Guatemala. Thank you very much Jeremy Stevens. Hopefully we'll see that one soon very interesting story about what happened yesterday at the hotel. Thank you very much. Leon Edwards great stuff from him interesting interesting times as well great catch up with Martin Kampman good luck to him in Mark Madsen on Saturday great to have the one and only Joey Dee as on the program. Thank thank you very much to him. All the best to Jack Hermansson this Saturday main event Copenhagen good luck to him against jared CANANEA. Thank you very much who Daniel Cormet. Welcome back that was phenomenal stuff and of course thank you very much to horry. Maswadeh for sitting down once again back in two weeks same time and plays a case. You Miss Anything. Check it out. I twitter youtube all those by some more pace.

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"You're listening to the VOX media podcast network Jose on Sierra with EMI fighting another episode of the a side live chat with me this this way also before begin headphones. All of you told me to put headphones on so please. Let me know if you can hear me or there's an echo. I I know last week. We figured it out like five minutes into the broadcast with Alex this time. I'm hoping we figured it out. I had time so let me know I would really like to get doing entire episode with no technical difficulties fingers crossed but with me is Danny Sagarra back from Mexico as you saw on the show the the post there was a little question whether who the host was. I was hoping Danny would make it wasn't hundred percent sure but he's with us. You survived Mexico Danny. How's IT gone. How was your trip. I'm sure we're going to get into it before we talk about vice but first of all house may go. You were there for what ten days at ten days so the first eight days as were fun the last two days. I got food poisoning. I'm still recovering from that. So that's why we weren't sure if I was GONNA make it to his life jeter not. I wasn't even sure I was going to make it out of Mexico but I did see those last. Few days. Were rough but I'm here man. I'm here to talk about him in May so let's do it. Nobody wants to hear about my health issues though one wants to hear about health issues especially MMA fans but as always you can use Hashtag the side you can go on the on the site the post on the site leader comments. I have not looked at any of these yet but I really wanted to get last week. We had Aka Leon. He was obviously you've seen Vancouver so he wanted him to get immediate reaction from Vancouver. I ask Dan if he would be on few of you may go. It was obviously a very there's lots of talk about especially on the main card. I'm sure we're going to have some questions nations and if not we're still going to have to talk about but we're going to jump right into it because this is not our show. This is your show first question Danny from Grin Ed. Ooh interesting just in question has nothing to do also looking to the side for people watching because I'm reading the comments on this ipad if you were introducing someone new to mma what previous or upcoming fight would you recommend. Would you recommend or suggest. They want so very interesting question Danny. I'm going to say they haven't been they haven't been specific. A bomb say if you could pick three fights past or present like either fights coming up or fights already happen to introduce someone to make some martial arts. What are your three fights. That's a good one definitely one with no blood. Whenever I've shown fights people for for the first time in a bloody mess or something crazy like that they get freaked onto a I've had people actually asked me if they can't they die. I'm like well bleeding but I can't really die. I mean I don't know something something technical. If it's three you want a little bit of everything right so you want like a good back and forth on the ground right a good standard battle that's somewhat okay with the face and then the third one. I don't know and then just some some epic stuff a nothing. Nothing specific comes to mind. What about you. Would you say if I had three. I would pick my all time. Firefighters emporia versus the Korean Zombie so that's just my personal favorite. I think that's a lot of back and forth action submission. I think that's a complete. MMA match US through if you're looking for technical just a high caliber anime like all around technical masterpiece. I really a big fan of Jewish offices dominant crews and Carlos Condit here I think those are two masterpieces and then I think you should have to throw in like a really big name someone that someone knows I think I know people aren't GonNa like it but I think you should have to. Show someone connor versus says made to but then you also have a bunch of other fights from like pre zoo for that are always fun like you always showing some boss ruin you throw in some rain. Katori Tim Sylvia W was an exciting finish There's a lot of it's like you said it depends on what you're looking for but I think those three like the modern era because I think if they're going to try to become an fan now you'd WanNa show them what. MMA is like now rather than the bloodbath like we saw from years prior but that's just my opinion. Yeah also a good fight. A lot of people get into may also because of the storylines right. I think one of the most like classic Hollywood story lines would be young. Jake versus Rosena unions actually sure that to my roommate I show her the very first one shorter the entire buildup in the background and then you know it was like such a UH contrast between personalities and then how the actual played out in. I was an incredible win streak. I mean that was literally. A movie like you can make a movie out of that and like you watch that and you'd be like not only happens in a movie. You know like if goal Hollywood. You know whatever everybody I think that'd be a good fight. I think if you're looking for some violence obviously waller lawler McDonald and Hendel Shogun one or two really good wants to yeah and also if you if you WanNa get him you know get set the tone real quick Jay or Stevens. This is all done. No no no don't do that. Don't do that because then there'd be a you know. I thought you also got forty the real low we're going to show them. We're going to give them a pallet. Cleanser of Derek Lewis versus France and Ghana and then we're getting all the violence but yeah I want. An exclusive challenged his favorite five but we're GONNA move right. Let us there's no way you can see all your comments. A lot of people are agreeing with us so someone's just Anderson Chris wideman community one sixty eight. That's when Anderson's snapped in half probably don't WanNA show him now. Maybe the first one if especially one where you're talking about storylines. I think the first Anderson Silva Chris widened fight is really good. One especially because Anderson was the matrix at that time maybe Anderson versus forrest Griffin because that he was another level but we're going to move right along from Robin g eighty seven so far to comments from people. We don't often see easy title fights to make so Khudobin Evita's Noriega made off Ferguson Uis men Covington three very good title-fights number one contenders against current champions. Why are these not book jet. What's the holdup besides them trying I to not pay the fighters at decent payday they go. There's your answer right there. No Call Comington wanted more money Kobelco well the first one is the first ones because who does injured. We spoke to so Hulu in Mexico in that screaming. Ma Finding Dot com and he said that recoveries a reduction going quite slow like it's not going as expected so I believe he said around March of two thousand twenty he was looking at comeback and so yeah but but he knows that like you know he wants to stay active. He wants to fight and he knows that he's the most deserving contender he's almost clear contender out of both divisions right honor for the rest of the fights yeah. Maybe maybe you know money. Money gets in the way connors fifty five so he always makes things things interesting world away well. It turns out you can you can put a pretty big fights without the title where Lee just kind of make up and you can just make a title but I agree. I agree with you benefit it. Well you said benefit is the most deserving number one contender. I don't think there's an argument against Ferguson. Being the number one contender. He hasn't in law since before women fought in the sea so he deserves the normal contender and then Kobe comes in the interim champion the might turn out fights but he should've already had title fight so oh I agree with you. Ben Evita's might have the pro pro has has obviously has obviously has the win over pseudo so they should run that back but there's no argument against Ferguson. There's not an argument against Covington right now obviously when he said like most deserving. I meant out of like one twenty eighty five in one thousand nine hundred headers. Huda should not anyone while I don't WanNa if anyone's going to get the first crack issued be is putting most word. There's no question there's no question in my mind and I've had this argument with too. Many people on twitter that Wanna see your pseudo fight favor or sterling or even even Algebra in sterling's like I have no problem if if I have to wait for Ben Evita's to fight if people at one thirty five or even saying that like come on doing here like if I'm Henderson Budo Yudo I fight Joseph benefit as if I win then that's a wrap for me at once twenty five avenger only other loss go out on a high twenty five and then you save the Division and then they can can do what they will and then go up thirty five but I don't know how long we want still fight but I agree with you. Harass anyone else. Besides Joseph interviewed US next you. Oh you know what the problem there is very real and again. This is not pseudo like being dismissive and trying to skip contenders and get into big fight. This is like legit issue like he's gotten big like. I saw him in Mexico. He's he's gotten big. You know he's He. He says he's weighing about one sixty right now. One hundred sixty fifty pounds so Jon Morgan from any junk junk them well you know I guess it would make sense to fight at one thirty five. I it's like you're not saying no to one twenty five but like if you're going to pick a fight right and you're at one sixty easier way go to thirty five. I and they won twenty five. That's really what makes more sense for his health. What's more attainable right due to cut from one sixty two one twenty five g. I believe that's why DOT COM Dodds won't be in the one seventy range and then he'd cut down to one seventy five really yeah. He's like he was like a top top-heavy Guy Remember. He liked posted something on a scale where he was just monstrous and I think it was before he fought Dimitrius Johnson the first time where they find Chicago in January so he lead like low percentage body fat like walking around in Chicago in the middle of January and he was like I'm GonNa get sick just from lack of like being into hydrated sucked out walking through this miserable cold but if that's the case fine like health comes first but again if if he can make twenty five that you can make one thirty eighty five I don't know what did he say what the extent of his injury was like one when he can yes he wants to get. He wants to fight in March but one can you actually get back into the gym. I would have to go back and listen to Scroll Megan. I don't remember head because if he can get back to the JIM say in December like I think he he's not gonna be able to get back into the gym like I think early twenty twenty well in the meantime. We're GONNA we're. GonNa just have to see Henderson Octagon side every single. UFC Car because I feel like he was he was a Abu Dhabi and then he was in Mexico like he's everywhere. He's he's literally everywhere Mazi doll to like. He's going to be everyone until he fights naturally Mazda. I aw I was talking to his manager and his manager told me he's like this. Is this is the last or last trip the trainers like you telling ailing me like you'll see on the travel so expect Mazda Delta to slow down as far as media and travel. I think he's going to really start putting in the road work right now now. I would hope so because I haven't seen anything miser dolls on ESPN Mazda on the Dan Lebatardshow dolls that didn't use Uruguay he did the ATT T. Media Day that you were at he was in Mexico. He was at USC to forty one. He's doing everything everywhere and he's talking to everyone. He's doing everything he can sell this fight and ideas and doing anything so yeah. Mas Rudolph takes back. Go do your thing I saw him post embiid some videos today or I can't remember who was of him like practicing flying these on a dummy so yeah so good. Do it and I'm seeing a lot of commenting. Our audio is crystal clear someone saying okay. Danny pseudo should not just benefit as I used to fight Valentine the ship Sanko or Wiley Jank. I pass don't ever WanNa see that don't ever number again but we're gonNA move right along from our longtime friend. Trumbull we have a lot of questions were hitting. The obviously Lee requested the comments section. The ones that are green are the ones who are gonNA prioritise but that doesn't mean we're not going to answer all the questions and I promise everyone brings us up. I'm GONNA check twitter more often. Today does connor fight Frankie Connor skills con for the Frankie fight. Did you like this idea for connor. It's less risk than Tony Pori or gauge you but there's a win generate the same level of redemption or credit think even an Aldo rematch gets more excitement in credit also losses complete disaster for him so yes Danny while you're in Mexico. I don't know if you heard but there's a lot of buzz right. Now of Connor possibly fighting Frankie is coach. Coach wants them to fight. Apparently Connor turned out fights against in the past Frank Eggers tweeting out that he wants to fight him. Hold off dropping down to one thirty five. What what is your take. I'm assuming if this takes place they would want it at one forty five. I don't know of Connor ever wants to go down to one forty five ever again. Frankie might be the only one against Frank eggers aigars coming off a loss. I don't know how much does for Connor to beat Frankie after Frank. You just lost a mass holloway. What is your take from all this. I I think this is probably one of the worst fights you can make with Karma Gregor and I the only reason why would be okay with this fight is because look Frankie editors an an orgy of the game. He's put in the work. He's been a companyman so you'd kind of want to see them. Take a big paycheck and you know at the time when Conrad was at one forty five really the fight that we wanted to see Z. Was Frankie Edgar versus Conor McGregor just because there was questions about his wrestling right we know Frankie Edgar is a great wrestler but since then their careers have gone to McGregor has gone up in weight has gone gone up to fight US heavy as one seventy and frank de before this connor honor stuff even came up. He's already sizing up so who'd on talking about dropping down to one thirty five yeah. I have no interest I know Frankie. Edgar is obviously down for the Dick Patriot and he's like you all whatever way class you want. Listeners make it happen like you're you dictate the terms show up but look what what does this do for Conor McGregor. I mean frankly not even a fifty five or anymore. He's talking about dropping. One thirty. Five just makes no sense. It just makes no sense. It makes snow censor. The division at this point is not a stack see fight. It fight like don't get me wrong. Frankie Edgar Still Stud- but like his starpower is not the same. You know that was a few years ago so no I I like more. The idea Frankie Edgar fighting's Hoodoo at some point at at one thirty five. I actually think that pretty good fight and competitive one. I'm but yeah no. I'm not in favor for that fight whatsoever yeah. I I a few years ago. That's for fight. Everyone wanted but franken coming off a loss franken going on at one thirty five conor. McGregor come also coming off losses one hundred fifty five pound champion like there's a lot of it would have been great two years ago. I had zero interest in seeing that right now. I think the only way it does happen is connor has respected Frankie for a long time. He's one of the a few fighters that Connor won't say anything negative about I remember even before he fought Aldo the AFC put out this video of the top ten at feather way and conor McGregor would like like half to give his one where answer to all of them and he's like he was like obviously doing stain just like just going scorched earth on every top ten feather way and then someone's as Frank Ed. He's like I can't say well frankly. I love that guy so I don't know what connor fights frankly it's just because he respects Frank. Maybe once a legacy fight but again like you you said it perfectly. What does that do for Conor McGregor fighting a one thirty five or after his last two fights are one fifty five and one seventy nothing. I don't know Frankie wins. I honestly don't he's looked you didn't get the doors blown off and gets Max Holloway but it wasn't a pretty one sided like it was a pretty one sided decision Matt Solloway beating getting him for that. It'd Be Cup Swanson before that he got knocked out by Brian Ortega so frank what has lost two of three. CONOR McGregor also lost two of three including that Floyd Mayweather fight so not the sexiest fight in the world but also I think it's not the best stylistic match of connery also like economy was going to have such a big size advantage advantage that that point like then the wrestling becomes an issue right like like Im- boxing and striking you can be smaller and sizes sizes not that big of an issue but when you have to manipulate other peoples weights such as wrestling right when you have to deal with that then that becomes an issue so I don't WanNa see also Frankie Edgar fight in a fight where he's going to be at a huge disadvantage not because of skill wise just because they're literally almost two weight classes apart right. Maybe one and a half we could say also there's doesn't that doesn't really align with the Conor McGregor narrative at least Nate Diaz is out there saying look just here to fight for the B. M. F. Daito and like he doesn't really care about the title and he's just there for big fights. McGregor has actually like hung onto the title narrative like book my rematch in Moscow and Habiba going to come back and get chew and all this stuff like okay. If that's your narrative then. Why are you fighting why you WANNA fight frank like that doesn't mean anything I want that doesn't get any closer a to a title fight Conor McGregor Camp and you're the AFC. What's the fight. You're trying to book. I asked this question last week. There's so many any you know that gays you. One is is kinda looking good nagging alliance. Let it there. I think that's the worst I fight for Canada. Take honesty to make I mean. W- were you were you. You're covering may right when you were when when McGregor wasn't his rice right. Oh Yeah I went. I was at the Boston car when he fought maps. I was covering it for that. Yeah Yeah Yeah that that run one was so exciting is as a coverage for media because it was constant like when he was active I was fun. If you fight gauge I mean I don't know if I have have the confidence to say you're going to keep fighting often after that at least not soon after I mean you got ta fast dudes like freaking Dustin Poirier saying like I'm GonNa leave a piece of myself and they're like I'm not going to be a same human being after that fight so no. I'd like to see conor McGregor active so I like. I like that Kabore. One I know COBB was coming off a loss but like like I don't know I know in a way we're like somewhat protecting connor so in some ways like you. You've got to find the best. If you WANNA get the title right then just engage the guy but at the same time is like you haven't found it in a while fight someone you know someone. That's a little bit of a better match so you're saying you don't want to just engage because connor would be so messed up physically after that fight he would have to take a long break again. Maybe yeah yeah I mean if you're gonNA fight just to gauge you. That's your yeah you're gonNA. It's basically being put through a wood chipper chipper but I want money so no yeah. He doesn't need the money I think of. All the fighters available just engaged. She is without a doubt the worst style match for elite wrestling endless cardio great stand up like the the just engaged. We've seen the last few fights against Edson Barboza against James Vick and against Donald cerrone has been a very calculated calculated violence rather than just going gun blazing like like you did. It's Eddie against pouria against Michael Johnson so this just engagement is terrifying. I think I was talking with someone this past weekend. I can't can't remember the last re fights combines with just engaging. He's maybe absorbed like forty strikes combined between Vic Barbosa and and cavalier ceremony or maybe even less and he absorbed more than forty in both rounds against Michael Johnson like in two rounds he has more. It's like he's absorbed more strikes in his last three fights combined so this is a completely different just engaging than we've seen. I think this is the worst but I liked the downside Ronnie one. They're both coming off losses. They've been kind of circling each other for a long time. I think that's cowboy is one of those few fighters. I think that his fanbase is big enough. That connor will actually have some booze go his way. Ah Beefs up there obviously way up there but I think Jessica is going to get booed a lot when he fights connor but I think cowboys. Rony has that fan base that will match Connors Fan Base Dustin is also a good option wouldn't mind seeing that rematch and look we have a big fight coming up to forty four and ADA's versus Whore House Malvo the winner I mean I don't know I don't want. Maybe I'll see third nate fight because I think every trilogy should end up. I'm I'm still really disappointing. We haven't seen shogo three and we probably never will but nate connor has to happen. I know John Cavanaugh every time someone asks him. Who Do you WANNA see by next until recently and we started saying Frankie Edgar like he kept saying the third. Nate is the only fight I want right not like that. Fight will get me excited. That's I think like what the UFC did a poll and they said Nate Connor twos the greatest fight in the history of the you have C. I don't necessarily agree with that but I know it's pretty good. I think it's the greatest of all time time but that fight has to happen. I mean whether it's for the title or if there's no title I don't really care that has to happen eventually but if nate batory Mazar doll needs probably a bigger star right now especially because like if if the rock does put the B. M. F. Tile around ideas as waste is not as a bigger star Dr Animated and Conor McGregor Right now you're saying mayor worldwide or like in the world. I pop culture both pub culture. No conor McGregor is the biggest enemy yeah. I mean frigging. McGregor has taken a backseat I mean he he's not an active fighter. People Forget forget you know right. Now is who's being talked about. Actually is a little bit off topic but as speaks volumes to how big that fight is. I was checking in backs go to Mexico and the lady that that that's there for the for the check in recognize me and she's like Oh my God we started talking about it for a little bit. She's like Oh me and my husband and are actually trying to get tickets for. USC to forty four and she just went on a rant about eight years and I was like okay. He's a needle mover. If you would've asked me like I remember and he's Bannon it'll move. I was backstage for UFC when it was here in Phoenix and chrome one krone out. Sarah's and nate was obviously backstage because he was in Crohn's browns corner and Dana did like like some media and one question was like someone was like giving him like what are the chances of this happening. What are the chances of this happening and he said what are the chances we see. Nadir's return and they'd and he's just like zero percent and then they did happen to be walking by and then when are you returning. I Dunno as that right guy appointed a Dana white so if you would have asked me twelve months ago so September two thousand eighteen hoy mas is all still is getting ready to fight what no he hasn't fought since this the wonderboy fight and they have fought since connor and now they're fighting for the a fake belt that they just made and the rock might wrap it around their waist and people in TSA are stopping. You talk about this fight like this is the strangest timeline mind I've ever experienced in mixed martial arts history. I love everything about it. It's fun but we're going to move right along. We're GonNa Talk Bell Tower. We have to tell editor-in-chief verge host of the verge cast revamping the versus more and more lately and coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even a third bonus episode on Tuesdays. I talked to influential people around the world attack back like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other exactly founder of lime scooters the CEO of beyond me. 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Rico decode every week we have candid in depth conversations with people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin we talk about how they got to where they are today and how their work is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribe I for free to be the first to hear them on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP belts are matchmaking from Matt Matt Dunk Longtime Commenter Longtime Baladora matchmaking. MVP is back against Richard Kiley three in who's three and won. MVP goes from fighting Douglas to fighting adding this guy colleagues. Most recent win was against three and five fighter. What is up with this matchmaking? Is this just an epic squash match for set to set up. Mvp To get a skull crushing pokemon style finish out the most use commissions would have serious questions about matching up a fourteen and one fighter against the three hundred five so yes danny. We cannot forget. There's two Baladora cards this week. Yes there's the ballot or big featherweight Grand Prix but there's also belt or Dublin. James Gallagher is on the card Michael Page returns I was I was ringside inside for twenty five Douglas Lima. That was a terrifying fight like I didn't think I thought I was dead when he got just two cows by US looking. I'm good in that fight up until then but what are you making this matchup. I know highly is doing a real good job of selling the fight. I don't know if you watched when our pizza was there for the press comes like they were going at it back and forth the whole time they were. They were great great. Banter greatbatch does obviously does not always lead to great fight. What do you make of this matchmaking so yeah the matchmaking if you just look at the record like Somalia it is extremely suspect right but but I'll say this. Mr Richard has done a great job selling the fight like back and forth has been fun and I think I don't know man I mean I think I don't know I don't know I'm kind of enjoying it. I'm kind of into it. I don't know if that's if that's weird. Vp appear anybody yeah and this point is like whenever prior to you know the Paul Daley fight in like once he was the Douglas Lima and once he was is getting legit names like every time he fought. It was just like we knew like okay. What's going to happen now. Like is it going to be a flying is GonNa be a you know some crazy spinning like that's kind of fun. I got it and look the worst thing. We're the worst like you you know y'all come goes the other way and Kylie scores like a crazy knockout or something and Iraqi story and you know he's been talking so he will back it up and all of a sudden we have a little. Maybe not a huge star but we got a name right on her hands so I do think that mismatches have a place in. I and I don't think it's it's always important to always have one but I think every now and then is okay and I think for this case. It's fine yeah. I mean Kylie like you. You hit on the head like if you haven't definitely go watch that press conference at Pizza Carol. was that the banter between those two the one liners they were slinging ads. There was a little scuffle full when they finally faced off like Michael Van Page like wouldn't even look at him. He was texting the whole time during the stare down and then Kylie was getting in his face so I love it. I love everything thing about it. I obviously I would favor. Vp there's other matchups. I would rather have him take especially because they were in this be welterweight Grand Prix and after he lost Douglas Lima they were other fresher fights. I would rather have seen him like take like There's like the Jon Fitch fight out there. The NEIMAN Gracie fight like there was a lot of well delays in that tournament ornament that I would rather have seen face. Korsakov is out there so not the sexiest fight on paper especially when you're looking at their records it's but Kylie's done a fantastic job and it's the Coleman three rounds. MVP has no issue taking backseats. James Gallagher himself said because this is James is card. I don't have to sell this fight like you think James Gallagher is not going to sell out the Dublin arena in Dublin like He. He knows his place. Which is why. I think he's being a little tame. I'm in the lead up to this fight. I believe it's tomorrow. No it's Friday Friday of this is Wednesday. It's Friday and then Saturday is the other big bell tower. the featherweight ground free. I believe they're also getting the seating for the actual tournament because this is like the Round Robin Style and then after everyone wins. They're GONNA do the K. One style where they pickle ball with a number and they pick where they wanNA fight and then the next one picks they wanNA fight so the last so like the first person doesn't get to pick her. They fight they just have to go pick where and when when they find and then after that it it sounds amazing. Apparently that's going down Saturday to. I can't wait for that. Producer pit bulls fighting in a GIG gay guard Mossy Loading Makita rematch match on that same card. There's a lot of exciting non things happening this week outside of UC Copenhagen but we're GonNa move along is is that the more exciting stuff is non Uzi. Maybe jared cannon ear. and Jacker Manson intrigues me very much so and clear rowntree's return is also superintendent but I can't disagree with you. We're GONNA move along. We have a few. UFC McNicoll questions. We're going to save those for the end because obviously those are going to be directed more towards you right right. We were talking about earlier from Robin. Ge Seven Colby Covington being leapfrogged by Mas All de as do you think Kobe's getting and peace out of his title shot because he is very bad. Negotiators associated with a small brain would've put it like that harshly but you tell them if if Danny if my ideas win impressively. Would you be surprised if tomorrow's Mun is fighting the winner of the the B. M. F. Champion next instead of called Covington. Will I mean you have have to do a title Unification Bout Right. That's so we now's the time is going to be stuck in the welterweight division. No hopefully not to be honest. That's that's where things get weird right no but honestly that's. That's such a possible thing in. Oh Yeah I can see that happening. No it's like a very very possible people think is the winner of that is just going to be a huge star Megaton. I think most of the fans would have an issue with uh having colby getting skipped or not because he doesn't deserve it just because it's colby you know what I'm saying. If it was another say like Tony Ferguson more of a likable figure I think people throw their hands up and go out there and tweet something today now wide or something like that but even then yeah the winner. There's going to be a huge star. I think could very well skip skibbe colby going yeah. We already that the book. Wissmann verses uses or must be they had no issue ski skipping Colby so what makes you think they won't do it again with save if mobile wins with marble even being a bigger name than he was you know a few weeks ago when they try to fight but I think the big ally right now is is connor like if NATO wins and they do a trilogy connor and it's nate versus connor maybe nate drops back down to one fifty five and put the title on the line against Nate Connor and then all of a sudden connor owner say conor Winston. He's walking out with three championships now God. I can't even that that I can't even fathom that right now. I think there's a lot of things that could happen yeah. Both of these guys are interested in the big fights. I know horry module has always said the title is important to him but I I can't imagine if you drop money in front of him. He said I'll fight for the title fight conor because he sees dollar signs coming out of conner's mouth and we punch keeps getting. I don't know if you watched I Islam Media Circuit at ESPN where he did the Lebatardshow he did. He was on air show. He was even at the press conference and stuff people would ask him like when you. GonNa Fight. Are you going to fight conor next context and he's like Dana said I'm not so. I'm not worried about that guy so I think that's a little rope a dope. I think he's just trying to not talk about O'connor because obviously if he wins. He's going to say no to Conor McGregor. I think that's that's foolish but and you did you get to watch that press conference from from new did you make of that. That was nonsense wasn't not yet that might've been the worst I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah any shot thought to Phoenix Karnali Marc Lamont Guy Areo. I mean I think those were you know. They actually legit questions other than that. I mean the whole Vegan stuff and there was so much ridiculous shit but it's also look it's it's the US's job to filter this out right 'cause like if you open open open the floor for anybody to apply like you're going to any a bunch of people to apply. You have sees job to filter. CFC's dropped to hand out the Mike Right so I don't know I mean I think it was a little bit sides. It was rough man. I was watching it and I was waiting like it's all phoenix stand up and then those some issues with the microphone so she and yeah question they might have been some lost in translation but it was bows rough. If I mean you were at I believe you did. He say it in the medical card when someone asked him it might have been a scrum or the Ba- I care. It might have been the guest one. I can't remember but someone when asked him like some about the like. What did you see when he stared off when they did and he goes. Oh yeah all those questions were dumb like even kind of annoyed by like like there was nothing to sell the fight outside of the hey. You're a Vegan and just doing something back to be honest. It's also kind of getting hard. There's something I've noticed it and it's going to get is going to keep getting harder because whenever there's a firearm every press conference every interview something has said and then the fight builds layers right stories. These guys are not building any layers. They're just like I respect him. He respects me. We're not gonNA talk about each other but they're not saying absolutely anything anything so yeah. There are enough things to ask about you know. I asked you know Oh. You're crazy. You know Tony Montana stuff or whatever he wore in Mexico or Kobe Covington starve. You can ask several things that are floating around the outside of those things are gonNA run out at some point when we get like deep into fight into by week. I wonder what's going to be the talking point. I would have asked when I was there and like so much should ask. This has this but if you were if you were to Mexico you would have been there was so we didn't have anyone to ask questions. They're like Hey Dana. This is championship fight. Do they have to make championship wait. That's a legitimate question. I think yeah five round fight like if this this is a this is a sanctioned title fight like they have to make one seventy can they do. They get that one seventy one pound. There's a lot of questions we could've asked. I I did not enjoy anything about that outside of the and then there was the guy that was asking about the Patriots. There was a guy ask. Hey you're going to smoke a joint or have a beer after I'm just it's like come on guys like who who are these people but it's usually when they turned the mic to the fans in separate questions which are fun you know but again not for our media thousand thousand absolute train wreck. We're going to get one more question before we jump over to twitter and talks and talks and MUC- Mexico to forty five main event from our good friends at Cuco Keggi who Danny. I don't know if you remember we are. We are pronouncing that name correctly. There's always been a question of all the available champions who gets the main event of that card so usually to forty five has the the Bantamweight Championship. I believe which is I believe two forty five is the December fourteenth car that has Amana Nunez intervened Aranda me. I believe Max Holloway is fight involving Oscar on that card. So of all the champions available. Do they stick with these two title fights or did they add a third third one. I thought for sure John Jones fighting. John Block limits on this card my thought for sure by now John is now finding. He's doing his usual thing of fighting middleweights. It's coming up in testing. He did that with jagged scientists Rocco now. Here's another middle way in Zachary. Susan Powell card did not see that one coming at all so I if you would've asked me a couple of weeks ago I would say well Jonah Fight Yawn in the mandate and we'll just have three title fights but now what you say of all available champions who gets the main event or that car. I mean they can also add the Kobus man news not too late but but right now I mean I think I think with the fight that we have now. I think you know Holloway. Volkogonov ski takes right I would maybe but I think the man is a bigger star than both of those guys like when you when you saw Amanda Fight Rhonda the Komen Event was cody versus dominic in that same way class so like news. Rhonda Ronda was Rhonda's return. It is very true and conor did headline. Connor Aldo was above raffled wideman. I actually think that Amanda got more star power from from her wins over Holly Home in Cyborg than than she did with Rhonda like that whole bill they did quite poorly in the sense of the promoted motive just Rhonda Rhonda Rhonda and when Nunez one there wasn't much about her. You know it was just like it was it was more like a loss rather than newness defended under your belt yeah. It's a little bit of thousands a bit of a bomber and I also think there was a lot of questions out there like when we the last time we saw Rondo getting violently knocked out so when when Amanda violently knocked her out for a second time it's like yeah we've seen this before like how good is Amanda Nunez and then she went on another and then she had what that fight against Valentine's SHANECO which a lot of people I thought she lost the the second time eventually became a Rockstar when she beat cyborg highly home. Maybe Amanda Headlines Headlines over Max. I don't think Max would have that big of an issue. It seems like a pretty down Earth guy he but again historically historically the UC puts the heavier way class last year at the top unless it's someone like connor or Rhonda I'm but even again brock listener brock listener was like the Coleman event for me. She taped versus Amanda Newness a man headlines. UFC Two hundred over Brock Leser Dana Cormon Anderson Silva and Josie Aldo and came Alaska so they know title uh-huh zero that is true there was that is the main event was the main event was supposed to be Jones sounds corny before that we all know what happened to that but hey Amanda Nunez Headline News like some like if you look at it's also odd shoes on one ninety six. I believe Ucla Ninety six card art which was the connor nate one Suzanne. You'll see two hundred eighty two seven. She's been on some massive cards and now I think she's finally Jones Gus car. Choose the command event of that when she's not Cyborg so I think I think I'd give it as a slight edge in popularity over Max okay but if they chose Max over Falkowski but if you could obviously this is a moot point if Covington and Camara because there has to be made it a low listener I'm Sean Rama's firm host most of today explained Fox's Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that that defines our moment and ask smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribe today explained leaned for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network. Yeah we're GONNA we're. We're GONNA move along a question from load Avik so Dan this one's for you. I would imagine the I ever Stevens what happened. What was your thinking. How do the crown turn so hostile. What's next for the two through fighters so Dan you're there. We can answer these questions but I think there's a segue into what was the atmosphere like in Mexico during that car because I was Washington with Casey being case we're watching and I was our Co.. Worker was watching and there was a lot of things that we were seeing on. TV later on we would see all the stuff being thrown from but those are cam like those are fan footage or there was like the camera on Brand Fitzgerald and Michael Bisbee that they later put out and Brandon. I chose I'M GONNA hide under the table and he was hiding under the table. People throwing beer and Michael Bisbee was sending up like shadow boxing at the crowd out. What was the atmosphere like that crazy arena while I was in the media room but I could hear the Reno at some points was louder than the actual. She'll speakers in the room so I could hear and I remember when all that was going on like I. I saw security run run by the door and I heard the crowd was throwing coins and the Mexican kind of heavy so I mean there's different sizes but anyways Dan yeah. It was intense in you know I think I think it's a lot of it is like culturally like that's how you know is very passionate. Passionate crowd like the night before I went to a wrestling show at Miami. He is a very old arena for for a wrestling show in like yeah. Adler people get into it. They were yelling at the wrestlers and then that's just kind of part of it. I think I think a big big reason why they were so upset. was you know it was the coming event was over. It was a fantastic fight so everybody was super edgy and on their feet in all riled up and then it was a bit of a suspect decision a lot of people thought Alexa Grosso one all you could make a case that was also like you know for for sparce so on top of that so they were disappointed with that that they expected a war between Stevens and Jeremy they got fifteen seconds of nothing and again worst case scenario after worst-case scenario area after worst-case scenario and then we saw what happened but yeah it was not a pretty sight. What was the atmosphere backstage and all the fighters got back there especially because you obviously didn't get to talk to Jerry Stevens but we saw air through your footage but woes it like when he actually walks through and they were the the fighters camps are everywhere right so oh on to win yeah. You're came in so the way the way the media room was working was the only English outlets there where myself. Ma May fighting DOT COM and Jon Jon Morgan May Junkie. Everybody else was from Mexico so cloudy. Sports a folks parties. ESPN is by New Orleans deal deal a bunch so so the way we were doing was that we were in order not to get a mixed bag of questions and then you have to cut knitted all this either either the the the the Hispanic. Let's go first and then the English or vice versa so jade actually went to talk in in Spanish first. I saw the whole thing I didn't record because we were going to get an English when I and there was actually some things that were said that you know weren't said in the English version he he actually came in very very calm the first thing he said he apologize for everything that happened and he addressed the media and the media for being there and being there all week and covering covering him and apologize for for for the performance and for what happened because he knew that obviously the media was looking to get more out of that but his demeanor was almost as someone that knew that that they were responsible for that card right obviously headline in in many ways carrying it and he needed to kind of put a face in it was almost very pr like like like like was he felt responsible for the car and I find in a way that was kind of Nice. It's something that the English viewers got robbed from. I think maybe it would have changed a lot of people's minds if they would have seen that. I mean you can see that from from the coverage of the Hispanic sites but if you only wash English once you missed up but he was very collected at that point I think it was only in the octagon where he when he was like super brought yeah and the the US did a good job but they were trying to hide as much as possible from like when when we were we saw stuff being thrown in when they had like Jeremy Stevens walking out but yeah they did a good job of cutting away and then as the footage started come out of the fans and then you will ask us and Brian Ortega kind of like yelling to octagon side. I'm not like I've been to soccer games or football games in Mexico like I've seen the medical outright play the US national team that obviously gets shockingly hostile like I went twice. I went with you you from the United States so I walked in through the entrance where the US fans have to people throw like urine at you yet yearn and coins and beer and everything but then I've also oh entered with my Mexican family and it's obviously just a big celebration so I wasn't surprised that that's how it reacted because I've seen that firsthand hands with how Mexican fans can be especially to American fight especially to American athletes was super disappointing but to answer more of this question what is next for the fires. I think the only answers the rematch because right now the rematches a bigger deal than ever before yet I agree and I didn't feel this way as soon as the fight was over. I feel this way like a day removed. I felt this way as soon as we started as soon as we started seeing the footage come out of the hotel ride and all this and then weighing in jade weighing in because the the whole lead up to the fight was okay. I'm fighting Jeremy Stevens but he wanted somebody higher. He wasn't really wasn't okay with that opponents so when I was over like okay it's it's over like. I want somebody else so he wasn't he wasn't to stoke to fight. Jeremy Steve's in the first place so I kind of thought like okay and then you know the way some fans were reacting about Jeremy Stevens. I guess decision to not continue fighting. Which I think is going to ridiculous. I just kind of thought the whole thing was a bit of a dud but then after seeing what happened the hotel and all that I think this fight is even bigger. I think you have to book it. Just not in Mexico yeah. They're not going back the Mexican the Mexican. What did you think of yours comments. Though saying like Jeremy Stevens have to live with this for the rest of his life like I fought with my eyes closed against Frankie Edgar like from my count like I'm seeing a lot of hate on on his reaction to like him being him saying like like I said like him. Confronting Jeremy Stevens Jerem studios like Bro. You poked in the eye and he's like you have to live with the rest of your life lifelock. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but I fought for gear with one. Is this and that what you pointed in those in those comments. It's weird because rat after after the fight like you've got to keep in mind like us in the media were sitting. You know we're sitting in a nice comfortable chairs in a nice comfortable environment. We're looking at different angles goals in replays. We got a nice sound system so we're kind of getting a good look of of everything right whereas right after the fight when he reacted due to all that in the scrum the only thing he'd seen was being in the octagon right looking up at the big screen but you also got a million distractions that commission checking up on you even if it was a fifteen second Friday Commission Check Zero K always your coroner's talking to you. The whole crowd was going crazy right. There's so many things so. I don't think he he actually got to analyze exactly what happened right. Also key he also has a different angle that we don't have and and we will never have he saw what happened. He saw how far his fingers went into Jeremy Stevens. Is You know he he saw. Maybe it wasn't that bad. I don't know again. That's only only jade those that's but I what I will have to say is Jeremy Stevens has been fighting the for how long he's like what third-most fights it's ever in. UC history something ridiculous. He's never backed out at a fight. He I mean this guy enjoys violence. He's a dog I mean he. He is one of the very very very few fighters left of that old square. That's just like Donald fight anybody anywhere literally right. He spent thirty thousand dollars for that camp. He went out there. Mexico early prior to like the crowd turning on him he he always felt like he was a big part of the Mexican community and it was such a big moment for him. No I don't think he he was faking it. In any way. Also it's not like any other fights where where the fight would have developed and then and we would have seen him get his ass whooped and then you're like and then he gets poked on your like all right well. He wanted to fifteen seconds. You know what I'm saying like right. There was no he wasn't getting beat. You know what I'm saying so you can't even use that against them. So I believe Jeremy Stevens says he wasn't able to continue one hundred percent believe him and and you were so you saw the like you saw the broadcast like they zoomed in on the I like the doctor was couldn't even pried open yeah and like something you notice when and they were doing it like try to try to keep your eye closed without like without making any strength like forcing like your you know what I'm saying like. It's impossible awesome like his all. This was relaxed and they couldn't even open it. You know what I'm saying so I was unbelievable but again germs. Jade was fired up. This was a big moment moment for him. He's also in a weird spot in his career where he's like hasn't fighting in a super long time takes a short notice. Fight Against Casey does amazing now. This is the moment went to follow up. It's been ten months and yet this happens. You know what I'm saying so I understand his frustrations as well but I mean I think Jeremy Stevens. There's no. I just don't see him lying. I just don't see I don't see it either and the biggest one of the biggest bummer of this fight is like you said it yourself you interview and he said like I wanted Jimmy. Stevens is a good opponent. He wishes he had a higher number next to him. He knew the dangers of this fight and he was taking it anyway. This felt like a kind of a placeholder fight for air like if he had beaten Jeremy Steven Snot like stock would have risen tremendously unless he did it in spectacular fashion but you don't see that he has during Stephen's often often yeah and there were so many questions with the Ir like he yes he be Korean Zombie but he was one second away from losing he was one second away like if Korean Zombie had had notched Rushton. That's an L. for Jari doesn't get that crazy knockout still a great fight but doesn't get that and say knockout one is arguably the greatest knock on UCSD before that he loses badly Frankie. Have your head says I closed like one of the get input there ever gets put to whichever in between that he gets cut he pulls out the fight against a beat and then before that he beats. BJ Penn it one of the satisfieds I've ever witnessed live so there were so many questions about like yes we all know jar is great fighter but there are questions about how great he was include. He take this nextstep to really cement himself in the upper echelon. Jerry Jones was a good test and we didn't even get that so this isn't the same place yeah. There's still so many questions out there about this guy hi. I'm even looking at twitter right now. There's all like I'm curious like from at I am the Mike. I'm curious but why are Rodriguez thought thought it was a good idea to entice the fans even after they were already throwing things into the cage. I understand the passion but that wasn't passionate was. I don't know I didn't see that. Did you see ya like trying to get up on the on the octagon side to like save something but I don't think he was like making them yell at you. No I don't think he was like telling him like you know throw more stuff. He was doing any of that but he did get like on the hyping them up you can get on the on the cage and he you know he put his fist up and he's like yelling and and when you see that right you even more hyped up as as a as a crew member and if you've had a few beers you know that just goes up the roof so I think he could have control that better but at the same time it's like you got you gotta analyze what state he's in like he was he he not all the time although he was not stoked to. Jimmy seems t knew that was a dangerous fight. He knew Jeremy Stevens was is ready for more. Yes he knew he was going to get into a war right and that was a big moment for him. Main event you know Jeremy Stevens was talking a lot of smack about him in the he was in it throughout the week he never really bit back or said anything back negative about them whereas Jeremy Stevens was telling us going to kick them around like a Chihuahua and all this so I think I think what we saw. There was a culmination of like look. This guy has been talking smack about me all week now. We're about to fight now. He's he's backing down. You know he saying he's he's not gonNA fight so again all of those emotions that were contained through five week. We're just pouring out and I think it's a little bit of a release. He did not get through fight week right even even in the face off like you get see. Jeremy Stevens get real intensity his face and just smiling and laughing so I think he wanted to release all of that in the fight and he didn't getting get a chance to so when he didn't. I mean all those emotions after go somewhere and we saw where they went so I don't blame him for that because again. That's that's a different state of mind. Mind your in. You know what I'm saying so again I don't I don't agree with it but like I understand it yeah. It's it's just in a fortunate situation for all especially because I think all week I I love that group photo. All the Mexican fighters took together. It really shows how far the mets I may scene has grown even with Alex Kane Velasco's on that car. There's no Henderson who to on that car. No Brian Ortega like these are three Mexican Americans but these were very different. Me and Brian are taken talked a lot about where he felt like he could really help the Mexican. Mac grow if the Mexican audience embraced him as a Mexican rather than a Mexican American but all that first of all the actual born and raised Mexican fighters just warmed my heart and it is so disappointing as as a Mexican. I was really happy to see all that. It was just so disappointing to see not only how this ended by now. A lot of the talk is about how the fans reacted a lot of people say donkey back to Mexico. This tainted the down there like like it is truly disappointing for me. I'm sure it was his point of view to fly all the way down their debt sick watch yard term. You Steven's fight for fifteen seconds but there were still a lot of exciting fights on that car. We're going to jump back the twitter from at digital tricycle. One MERANO versus Askerov Round three was deemed at ten Hannah but GRAUSO versus a sparse wasn't in the very next fight and as such wasn't scored a draw which is how I had it is time for. Ma to try harder for more consistent judging judging criteria yes danny will use this as an opportunity to speak about the event but Unites Aggressive Decarlo sparce that fight ruled. I thought the fight for that one Marino Marino ask her off. I thought that it was going to be the fight of the night until across a call sparce. I wish they had both gone to fight of the night bonuses. But what did you make of the judging. How how did you score the call as far as the fight. How did you score the Brandon Marino fight you were there. I'm sure you guys were all talk in the media. I was obviously saying that's the case so we had our own opinions but what was the reaction backstage in the media so we're all working so we're all watching the fights. That's why like whenever you see me like post host a score on my twitter timeline it's because I watched the entire fight right if I don't watch the entire fight of missed the minute or thirty seconds of around because I'm working. I'M NOT GONNA judge on an even even if like I hear the commentary and I kind of know how it's going. I'm I'm just not going to give share my thoughts on that so I'm going to treat this the same way like I have because I've been so sick I haven't gone back and watch the entire fight but from the moment that I saw for example. I thought that Brandon Moreno I had one. I thought that sparce had taken the first round. I believe I don't remember how the other rounds win but I remember member in the feeling in the media room it was most likely withdraw that gross who had taken a ten eight round and then sparce had maybe taken into ten nine rounds those one clear around that sparce one but it was tight and then dealer to one hundred percent gross dominated needed and the other one was kind of India that was kind of like the feeling in the media so so yeah I mean I think the judging is we've talked about this at length their issues with the way we judge fights enemy but also there are issues within the commission of anime in a lot of you. You know media talking about this about the commission. There are certain things that happened at the Wayne's as well and there's some of the things that the commission has to has to get right but a lot of that is because there's not a whole lot of MMA in Mexico so this commission's don't get to get reps in you know so they are going to get things wrong but yeah. I think it's a little bit of combination of a flawed system plus a commission. That's not one hundred percent trained yeah and Casey was is much more upset over the Alexa Crossover corresponds. If I had it a draw. He thought it was pretty clear for Alexa Rosso. I didn't think it was terrible decision. I thought it was that close. He seemed a little more upset than in but this seems like one of those fights I think she said it herself when the scrum that you posted in her English speaking one where it's like she lost but she she she feels like a winner like she didn't lose anything in this loss is she came out better even though she an El Al I get it. Hurts doesn't get her win bonus and all that stuff but she she she came out better in the eyes of the fans. I think I think there are a lot of clicks she cal- Caroline Kovacevic that she just arguably just beat another former champion Carlos bars. I think she's one of the bigger stars but before we wrap it a little bit more. I want to ask you because you were there any other even in the lead up to the fight like you interact. You're at me today. You interviewed everyone. You saw the fights. Were there any other performances weather at media day at the fights. Hi It's even backstage scrums with any other names that kind of elevated themselves coming out of fight week in your eyes I mean Stephen Peterson scored a beautiful who knockout and he had very compelling scrum. I encourage you to check that out if you haven't I don't know he wanted a ranked opponent next. I don't know if he's going to get one but after after that performance I think he's definitely on my radar because I know what he can do. Maybe he's not what he's GonNa do every five but he's definitely capable of doing that in. I'm just in the environment that he did it in. It's just tough so he came out of big winner also taking Eunice. I interviewed on prior to the fight eight in Spanish and uploaded the interview on our Youtube Channel with subtitles. It's hard the scribe how big of a star he is but in Mexico he he is he is a big deal. He's I the Mexican. The Mexicans execute their connect with him better than any other fighter. He's doing yeah. He's doing for example starting like social programs to help kids with. I think he he called La Malaysia and he's trying to develop that as well you know he he he does. He's trying to do a lot of good things for Mexico and for the youth and he's tough guy you know he puts on exciting fights. He's got his whole look with the mustache and everything he just looks very cool. It's he doesn't speak any English so that doesn't cross over to the US fan base but in Mexico like gotta all the fighters he he's well known and he's a big deal and he was aww four five four three five win streak and then he went to London and Nathaniel. Would we know how good nathaniel would is took a loss lost their but now you know he came back and got us solid win over cuddles which are pretty dominant when I think of this guy keeps getting some wins and hopefully learn learned some English. I think he you know he could be a guy. That is a big deal for Mexico is a big player that I'll donna blew me away to. I watched that that replaces is that question marking. She landed on What was your mental over and over and over that. was she had gone that knocked out. I think she would have been the biggest star because that was a flawless performance against an opponent Oakland. short-notice opponent came in overweight because of the she missed weight but I think she completely blew me away. I don't know what's next for her. She wants a ranked opponent. I think Clinton couldn't sky. I think is the only other one that I think I think they're like seven eight right there. I think everyone in the top five books just bought or or is injured or whatever I think couldn't sky is a good match for her ranked like really like ones above the other. I think they're right there. I think this is going to be but she completely clearly blew me away but yeah all around and also she so exciting like every single fight she's been in the US's exciting like that's that's a good fighter to have in your division somebody that you can rely on for exciting fights and she's speaks perfect. Spanish spoke English good English just like not the not the best deals but good enough. I think she kind of has that charm of Habib speaks English a kind of the fact that he can't Ashiq perfect English kind of makes him intriguing and like you want more about this guy but we're running up on time so as usual Danny. The floor is yours for any promo. I know you've talked about you. Go grow your back in the states. We got a lot of fight cards coming up this week so we haven't talked to anything my UC Copenhagen whatever you WanNa talk about the floor is yours. There's not really much of a promo but more of a PSA so I got a lot of hate so we posted a a scrum on EMI fighting dot com our youtube channel of court him as who answered some questions in English and then refused to keep answering anymore orange the entire scrum basically in Spanish. I love and the responses that I got where ridiculous where like what are you talking about the UFC see American company here. You speak English all this a bunch of nonsense right. I don't know me growing up all the time that you know I heard either people telling my parents or my brother and myself or my friends urine. America's speak English in although that's kind of harsh okay we're in America August. What were they must be that is in Mexico the only to American media how those only to American media outlets there there was like ten of them that were Hispanic so there there is absolutely nothing wrong with him deciding to speak Spanish at scrum especially when he's in a country that speak Spanish with the majority of media outlets is that are there covering it that only speak Spanish. They're covering it in Spanish. So if you you know we did we put subtitles on it so you can definitely get everything that that he saying. You know what I'm saying. It's not like you're missing out so don't complain about that. It's like it's like telling Jiang. Wei Li not to speak Mandarin or you know what I'm saying like. I think the most ridiculous thing in the world so not really a promo but I just wanted to say like like Joe out like Corey mobilize. It's completely in his right to speak Spanish if he wants yeah and every user and everything was pretty much what he'd been saying already like when you interview in English. Att DT before the Nate Diaz fire then getting interviewed forty one him at the at the press conference all that stuff so yeah could have said any better than myself. I I wish you had gone last because that's way better way of what I'm GonNA end on. I'M GONNA end on real quickly before Israel signed. You fought come gasoline. I did this thing on twitter where I broke down his favor on. May fight and you guys all loved it. You guys asked me to do it again. So you tell me which is to do this time you tweeted at Jose. Young's or you can just make Danny make tell me to do it at Dana. Cigarette TV credits. You're over here so you tell me 'cause you guys are asking me to do it again now. That Israel is on his fight but you tell me which one you want to do you and I'll get on that and we can talk about it next day side but Dan anything else you want to say before we go. We sign off for this week. All right do not eat seafood in Mexico not seafood and Mexico. I could've told Danny that for went there. Don't drink the water either the heart for until then pizza carols barrels on the UC Dublin Media Day is going to be there for UFC Dublin or Dublin. He's going to be there for ballots are done with James. Gallagher Benson Henderson fights myles jury very on that card to even talk about that. We won't have anybody use Copenhagen but Casey Liden is an Ester Leonard going to be on the scene for the by believes belt or to twenty-eight. I I believe or two thousand six which is the show Patrizio pit bull versus one Adalat we got machida and gay guy. Who Sassou we got a a whole bunch of other February I believe. 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The A-Side Live Chat | UFC Mexico Fallout, Yair Rodriguez's eye poke, Jeremy Stephens' reaction, Jorge Masvidal vs. Nate Diaz, Colby Covington losing title shot, Conor McGregor vs. Frankie Edgar, Bellator Dublin Preview,

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The A-Side Live Chat | UFC Mexico Fallout, Yair Rodriguez's eye poke, Jeremy Stephens' reaction, Jorge Masvidal vs. Nate Diaz, Colby Covington losing title shot, Conor McGregor vs. Frankie Edgar, Bellator Dublin Preview,

"You're listening to the VOX media podcast network Jose on Sierra with EMI fighting another episode of the a side live chat with me this this way also before begin headphones. All of you told me to put headphones on so please. Let me know if you can hear me or there's an echo. I I know last week. We figured it out like five minutes into the broadcast with Alex this time. I'm hoping we figured it out. I had time so let me know I would really like to get doing entire episode with no technical difficulties fingers crossed but with me is Danny Sagarra back from Mexico as you saw on the show the the post there was a little question whether who the host was. I was hoping Danny would make it wasn't hundred percent sure but he's with us. You survived Mexico Danny. How's IT gone. How was your trip. I'm sure we're going to get into it before we talk about vice but first of all house may go. You were there for what ten days at ten days so the first eight days as were fun the last two days. I got food poisoning. I'm still recovering from that. So that's why we weren't sure if I was GONNA make it to his life jeter not. I wasn't even sure I was going to make it out of Mexico but I did see those last. Few days. Were rough but I'm here man. I'm here to talk about him in May so let's do it. Nobody wants to hear about my health issues though one wants to hear about health issues especially MMA fans but as always you can use Hashtag the side you can go on the on the site the post on the site leader comments. I have not looked at any of these yet but I really wanted to get last week. We had Aka Leon. He was obviously you've seen Vancouver so he wanted him to get immediate reaction from Vancouver. I ask Dan if he would be on few of you may go. It was obviously a very there's lots of talk about especially on the main card. I'm sure we're going to have some questions nations and if not we're still going to have to talk about but we're going to jump right into it because this is not our show. This is your show first question Danny from Grin Ed. Ooh interesting just in question has nothing to do also looking to the side for people watching because I'm reading the comments on this ipad if you were introducing someone new to mma what previous or upcoming fight would you recommend. Would you recommend or suggest. They want so very interesting question Danny. I'm going to say they haven't been they haven't been specific. A bomb say if you could pick three fights past or present like either fights coming up or fights already happen to introduce someone to make some martial arts. What are your three fights. That's a good one definitely one with no blood. Whenever I've shown fights people for for the first time in a bloody mess or something crazy like that they get freaked onto a I've had people actually asked me if they can't they die. I'm like yeah well bleeding but I can't really die. I mean I don't know something something technical. If it's three you want a little bit of everything right so you want like a good back and forth on the ground right a good standard battle that's somewhat okay with the face and then the third one. I don't know and then just some epic stuff a nothing. Nothing specific comes to mind. What about you. Would you say if I had three. I would pick my all time. Firefighters emporia versus the Korean Zombie so that's just my personal favorite. I think that's a lot of back and forth action submission. I think that's a complete. MMA match US through if you're looking for technical just a high caliber anime like all around technical masterpiece. I really a big fan of Jewish offices dominant crews and Carlos Condit here I think those are two masterpieces and then I think you should have to throw in like a really big name someone that someone knows I think I know people aren't GonNa like it but I think you should have to. Show someone connor versus says made to but then you also have a bunch of other fights from like pre zoo for that are always fun like you always showing some boss ruin you throw in some rain. Katori Tim Sylvia W was an exciting finish There's a lot of it's like you said it depends on what you're looking for but I think those three like the modern era because I think if they're going to try to become an fan now you'd WanNa show them what. MMA is like now rather than the bloodbath like we saw from years prior but that's just my opinion. Yeah also a good fight. A lot of people get into may also because of the storylines right. I think one of the most like classic Hollywood story lines would be young. Jake versus Rosena unions actually sure that to my roommate I show her the very first one shorter the entire buildup in the background and then you know it was like such a UH contrast between personalities and then how the actual played out in. I'm was an incredible win streak. I mean that was literally. A movie like you can make a movie out of that and like you watch that and you'd be like not only happens in a movie. You know like if goal Hollywood. You know whatever everybody I think that'd be a good fight. I think if you're looking for some violence obviously waller lawler McDonald and Hendel Shogun one or two really good wants to yeah and also if you if you just want to get him you know get set the tone real quick Jay or Stevens. This is all done. No no no don't do that. Don't do that because then there'd be a you know. I thought you also get forty the real low we're going to show them. We're going to give them a pallet. Cleanser of Derek Lewis versus France and Ghana and then we're getting right into all the violence but yeah I want. An exclusive challenged his favorite five but we're GONNA move right. Let us there's no way you can see all your comments. A lot of people are agreeing with us so someone's just Anderson Chris wideman funerals one sixty eight. That's when Anderson's snapped in half probably don't WanNA show him now. Maybe the first one if especially one where you're talking about storylines. I think the first Anderson Silva Chris widened fight is really good. One especially because Anderson was the matrix at that time maybe Anderson versus forrest Griffin because that he was another level but we're going to move right along from Robin g eighty seven so far to comments from people. We don't often see easy title fights to make so Khudobin Evita's Noriega made off Ferguson Uis men Covington three very good title-fights number one contenders against current champions. Why are these not book jet. What's the holdup besides them trying I to not pay the fighters at decent payday they go. There's your answer right there. No Call Covington wanted more money Kobelco well. The first one is the first ones because who does injured. We spoke to so Hulu in Mexico in check out that screaming. Ma Finding Dot com and he said that recoveries a reduction going quite slow like it's not going as expected so I believe he said around March of two thousand twenty he was looking at comeback and so yeah but but he knows that like you know he wants to stay active. He wants to fight and he knows that he's the most deserving contender he's almost clear contender out of both divisions right honor for the rest of the fights yeah. Maybe maybe you know money. Money gets in the way connors fifty five so he always makes things things interesting world away well. It turns out you can you can put a pretty big fights without the title where Lee just kind of make up and you can just make a title but I agree. I agree with you benefit it. Well you said benefit is the most deserving number one contender. I don't think there's an argument against Ferguson. Being the number one contender. He hasn't in law since before women fought in the sea so he deserves the normal contender and then Kobe comes in was the champion and yeah if you might turn out fights but he should've already had title fight so oh I agree with you. Ben Evita's might have the pro pro has has obviously has obviously has the win over pseudo so they should run that back but there's no argument against. There's not an argument against Covington right now obviously when he said like most deserving I meant out of like one twenty eighty five hundred thirty five hundred headers. Huda should not anyone while I don't WanNa if anyone's going to get the first crack issued be is putting most word. There's no question there's no question in my mind and I've had this argument with too. Many people on twitter that Wanna see your pseudo fight favor or sterling or even even Algebra in sterling's like I have no problem if if I have to wait for Ben Evita's to fight if people at one thirty five or even saying that like come on doing here like if I'm Henderson Budo Yudo I fight Joseph benefit as if I win then that's a wrap for me at once twenty five avenger only other loss go out on a high twenty five and then you save the Division and then they can can do what they will and then go up thirty five but I don't know how long we want still fight but I agree with you. Harass anyone else. Besides Joseph interviewed US next you. Oh you know what the problem there is very real and again. This is not pseudo like being dismissive and trying to skip contenders and get into big fight. This is like legit issue like he's gotten big like. I saw him in Mexico. He's he's gotten big. You know he's He. He says he's weighing about one sixty right now. One hundred sixty fifty pounds so Jon Morgan from any junk junk them well you know I guess it would make sense to fight at one thirty five. I it's like you're not saying no to one twenty five but like if you're going to pick a fight right and you're at one sixty easier way go to thirty five. I and they won twenty five. That's really what makes more sense for his health. What's more attainable right due to cut from one sixty two one twenty five g. I believe that's why DOT COM Dodds won't be in the one seventy range and then he'd cut down to one seventy five really yeah. He's like he was like a top top-heavy Guy Remember. He liked posted something on a scale where he was just monstrous and I think it was before he fought Dimitrius Johnson the first time where they find Chicago in January so he lead like low percentage body fat like walking around in Chicago in the middle of January and he was like I'm GonNa get sick just from lack of like being into hydrated sucked out walking through this miserable cold but if that's the case fine like health comes first but again if if he can make one twenty five that you can make one thirty eighty five I don't know what did he say what the extent of his injury was like one when he can yes he wants to get. He wants to fight in March but one can you actually get back into the gym. I would have to go back and listen to Scroll Megan. I don't remember head because if he can get back to the JIM say in December like I think he he's not gonna be able to get back into the gym like I think early twenty twenty well in the meantime. We're GONNA we're. GonNa just have to see Henderson Octagon side every single. UFC Car because I feel like he was he was a Abu Dhabi and then he was in Mexico like he's everywhere. He's he's literally everywhere Mazi doll to like. He's going to be everyone until he fights naturally Mazda. I aw I was talking to his manager and his manager told me he's like this. Is this is the last or last trip the trainers like you telling ailing me like you'll see on the travel so expect Mazda Delta to slow down as far as media and travel. I think he's going to really start putting in the road work right now. Now I would hope so because I haven't seen ideas do anything miser dolls on ESPN Mazda Dan Lebatardshow dolls that didn't use Uruguay he did the ATT T. Media Day that you were at he was in Mexico he was at USC to forty one. He's doing everything everywhere and he's talking to everyone. He's doing everything he can sell this fight and ideas and doing anything so yeah. Mas Rudolph takes back go. Do your thing I saw him posted embiid some videos today or I can't remember who was of him like practicing flying these on a dummy so yeah so good. Do it and I'm seeing a lot of commenting. Our audio is crystal clear someone saying okay. Danny pseudo should not just benefit as I used to fight Valentine the ship Sanko or Wiley Jank. I pass don't ever WanNa see that don't ever number again but we're gonNA move right along from our longtime friend. Trumbull we have a lot of questions were hitting. The obviously Lee requested the comments section. The ones that are green are the ones who are gonNA prioritise but that doesn't mean we're not going to answer all the questions and I promise everyone brings us up. I'm GONNA check twitter more often. Today does connor fight Frankie Connor skills con for the Frankie fight. Did you like this idea for connor. It's less risk than Tony Pori or gauge you but there's a win generate the same level of redemption or credit think even an Aldo rematch gets more excitement. credit also losses complete disaster for him so yes Danny while you're in Mexico. I don't know if you heard but there's a lot of buzz right. Now of Connor possibly fighting Frankie is coach. Coach wants them to fight. Apparently Connor turned out fights against in the past Frank Eggers tweeting out that he wants to fight him. Hold off dropping down to one thirty five. What what is your take. I'm assuming if this takes place they would want it at one forty five. I don't know of Connor ever wants to go down to one forty five ever again. Frankie might be the only one against Frank eggers aigars coming off a loss. I don't know how much does for Connor to beat Frankie after Frank. You just lost a mass holloway. What is your take from all this. I I think this is probably one of the worst fights you can make with Karma Gregor and I the only reason why would be okay with this fight is because look Frankie editors an an orgy of the game. He's put in the work. He's been a companyman so you'd kind of want to see them. Take a big paycheck and you know at the time when Conrad was at one forty five really the fight that we wanted to see Z. Was Frankie Edgar versus Conor McGregor just because there was questions about his wrestling right we know Frankie Edgar is a great wrestler but since then their careers have gone to McGregor has gone up in weight has gone gone up to fight US heavy as one seventy and frank de before this connor honor stuff even came up. He's already sizing up so who'd on talking about dropping down to one thirty five yeah. I have no interest I know Frankie. Edgar is obviously down for the Dick Patriot and he's like you all whatever way class you want. Listeners make it happen like you're you dictate the terms show up but look what what does this do for Conor McGregor. I mean frankly not even a fifty five or anymore. He's talking about dropping. One thirty. Five just makes no sense. It just makes no sense. It makes snow censor. The division at this point is not a taxi fight. It fight like don't get me wrong. Frankie Edgar Still Stud- but like his starpower is not the same. You know that was a few years ago so no I. I like more the idea Frankie Edgar fighting so at some point at at one thirty five. I actually think that pretty good fight and competitive one. I'm but yeah no. I'm not in favor for that fight whatsoever yeah. I I a few years ago. That's for fight. Everyone wanted but franken coming off a loss franken going on at one thirty five conor. McGregor come also coming off losses one hundred fifty five pound champion like there's a lot of it would have been great two years ago. I had zero interest in seeing that right now. I think the only way it does happen is connor has respected Frankie for a long time. He's one of the a few fighters that Connor won't say anything negative about I remember even before he fought Aldo the AFC put out this video of the top ten at feather way and conor McGregor would like like half to give his one where answer to all of them and he's like he was like obviously doing stain just like just going scorched earth on every top ten feather way and then someone's as Frank Ed. He's like I can't say well frankly. I love that guy so I don't know what connor fights frankly it's just because he respects Frank. Maybe once a legacy fight but again like you you said it perfectly. What does that do for Conor McGregor fighting a one thirty five or after his last two fights are one fifty five and one seventy nothing. I don't know Frankie wins. I honestly don't he's looked you didn't get the doors blown off and gets Max Holloway but it wasn't a pretty one sided like it was a pretty one sided decision Matt Solloway beating getting him for that. It'd Be Cup Swanson before that he got knocked out by Brian Ortega so Franken has lost two of three Conor McGregor also lost two of three including that Floyd Mayweather fight so not the sexiest fight in the world but also I think it's not the best stylistic match of connery also like economy was going to have such a big size advantage advantage that that point like then the wrestling becomes an issue right like like Im- boxing and striking you can be smaller and sizes sizes not that big of an issue but when you have to manipulate other peoples weights such as wrestling right when you have to deal with that then that becomes an issue so I don't WanNa see also Frankie Edgar fight in a fight where he's going to be at a huge disadvantage not because of skill wise just because they're literally almost two weight classes apart right. Maybe one and a half we could say also there's doesn't that doesn't really align with the Conor McGregor narrative at least Nate Diaz is out there saying look just here to fight for the B. M. F. Daito and like he doesn't really care about the title and he's just there for big fights. McGregor has actually like hung onto the title narrative like book my rematch in Moscow and Habiba going to come back and get chew and all this stuff like okay. If that's your narrative then. Why are you fighting why you WANNA fight frank like that doesn't mean anything I want that doesn't get any closer a to a title fight Conor McGregor Camp and you're the AFC. What's the fight. You're trying to book. I asked this question last week. There's so many any you know that gays you. One is is kinda looking good nagging alliance. Let it there. I think that's the worst I fight for Canada. Take honesty to make I mean. W- were you were you. You're covering may right when you were when when McGregor wasn't his rice right. Oh Yeah I went. I was at the Boston car when he fought maps. I was covering it for that. Yeah Yeah Yeah that that run one was so exciting is as a coverage for media because it was constant like when he was active I was fun. If you fight gauge I mean I don't know if I have have the confidence to say you're going to keep fighting often after that at least not soon after I mean you got ta fast dudes like freaking Dustin Poirier saying like I'm GonNa leave a piece of myself offender like I'm not going to be a same human being after that fight so no. I'd like to see conor. McGregor active so I'd like to I like that Kabore. One I know COBB was coming off a loss but like like I don't know I know in a way we're like somewhat protecting connor so in some ways like you. You've got to find the best. If you WANNA get the title right then just engage the guy but at the same time is like you haven't found it in a while fight someone you know someone. That's a little bit of a better match so you're saying you don't want to just engage because connor would be so messed up physically after that fight he would have to take a long break again. Maybe yeah yeah I mean if you're gonNA fight just to gauge you. That's your yeah you're gonNA. It's basically being put through a wood chipper chipper but I want money so no yeah. He doesn't need the money I think of. All the fighters available just engaged. She is without a doubt the worst style match for elite wrestling endless cardio great stand up like the the just engaged. We've seen the last few fights against Edson Barboza against James Vick and against Donald cerrone has been a very calculated calculated violence rather than just going gun blazing like like you did. It's Eddie against pouria against Michael Johnson so this just engagement is terrifying. I think I was talking with someone this past weekend. I can't can't remember the last re fights combines with just engaging. He's maybe absorbed like forty strikes combined between Vic Barbosa and and cavalier ceremony or maybe even less and he absorbed more than forty in both rounds against Michael Johnson like in two rounds he has more. It's like he's absorbed more strikes in his last three fights combined so this is a completely different just engaging than we've seen. I think this is the worst but I liked the downside Ronnie one. They're both coming off losses. They've been kind of circling each other for a long time. I think that's cowboy is one of those few fighters. I think that his fanbase is big enough. That connor will actually have some booze go his way. Ah Beefs up there obviously way up there. I think Jessica is going to get booed a lot when he fights connor but I think cowboys. Rony has that fan base that will match Connors Fan Base Dustin is also a good option wouldn't mind seeing that rematch and look we have a big fight coming up at UC to forty four and Ada's versus Whore House Malvo the winner I mean I don't know I don't want. Maybe I'll see third nate fight because I think every trilogy should end up. I'm I'm still really disappointing. We haven't seen shogo three and we probably never will but nate connor has to happen. I know John Cavanaugh every time someone asks him. Who Do you WANNA see by next until recently and we started saying Frankie Edgar like he kept saying the third nate. Fight is the only fight I want right not like that. Fight will get me excited. That's I think like what the UFC did a poll and they said Nate Connor twos the greatest fight in the history of the you have C. I don't necessarily agree with that but I know it's pretty good. I think it's the greatest of all time Tom but that fight has to happen. I mean whether it's for the title or if there's no title I don't really care that has to happen eventually but if nate batory Mazar doll needs probably a bigger star right now especially because like if if the rock does put the B. M. F. Tile around ideas as waste is not as a bigger star Dr Animated and Conor McGregor Right now you're saying mayor worldwide or like in the world like pop culture both pub culture no conor. McGregor is the biggest enemy yeah. I mean frigging. McGregor has taken a backseat I mean he he's not an active fighter. People Forget forget you know right. Now is who's being talked about. Actually is a little bit off topic but as speaks volumes to how big that fight is. I was checking in backs go to Mexico and the lady that that that's there for the for the check in recognize me and she's like Oh my God we started talking about it for a little bit. She's like Oh me and my husband and are actually trying to get tickets for. USC to forty four and she just went on a rant about eight years and I was like okay. He's a needle mover. If you would've asked me like I remember and he's Bannon it'll move. I was backstage for UFC when it was here in Phoenix and chrome one krone out. Sarah's and nate was obviously backstage because he was in Crohn's browns corner and Dana did like like some media and one question was like someone was like giving him like what are the chances of this happening. What are the chances of this happening and he said what are the chances we see. Nadir's return and they'd and he's just like zero percent and then they did happen to be walking by and then. When are you returning? I Dunno as that the guy appointed a Dana white so if you would have asked me twelve months ago so September two thousand eighteen hoy mas is all still is getting ready to fight what no he hasn't fought since this the wonderboy fight and they have fought since connor and now they're fighting for the affect belt that they just made and the rock might wrap it around their waist and people in Tsa are stopping you talk about this fight like this is the strangest timeline mind. I've ever experienced in mixed martial arts history. I love everything about it. It's fun but we're going to move right along. We're GonNa Talk Bell Tower. We have to tell editor-in-chief verge host of the verge cast revamping the versus more and more lately and coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even a third bonus episode on Tuesdays. I talked to influential people around the world attack back like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other exactly founder of lime scooters the CEO of beyond me. 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Rico decode every week we have candid in depth conversations with people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin we talk about how they got to where they are today and how their work is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribe I for free to be the first to hear them on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP belts are matchmaking from Matt Matt Dunk Longtime Commenter Longtime Baladora matchmaking. MVP is back against Richard Kiley three in who's three and won. MVP goes from fighting Douglas to fighting adding this guy colleagues. Most recent win was against three and five fighter. What is up with this matchmaking? Is this just an epic squash match for set to set up. Mvp To get a skull crushing pokemon style finish out the most use commissions would have serious questions about matching up a fourteen and one fighter against the three hundred five so yes danny. We cannot forget. There's two Baladora cards this week. Yes there's the ballot or big featherweight Grand Prix but there's also belt or Dublin. James Gallagher is on the card Michael Page returns I was I was ringside inside for twenty five Douglas Lima. That was a terrifying fight like I didn't think I thought I was dead when he got just two cows by US looking. I'm good in that fight up until then but what are you making this matchup. I know highly is doing a real good job of selling the fight. I don't know if you watched when our pizza was there for the press comes like they were going at it back and forth the whole time they were. They were great great. Banter greatbatch does obviously does not always lead to great fight. What do you make of this matchmaking so yeah the matchmaking if you just look at the record like Somalia it is extremely suspect right but but I'll say this. Mr Richard has done a great job selling the fight like back and forth has been fun and I think I don't know man I mean I think I don't know I don't know I'm kind of enjoying it. I'm kind of into it. I don't know if that's if that's weird. Vp appear anybody yeah and this point is like whenever prior to you know the Paul Daley fight in like once he was the Douglas Lima and once he was is getting legit names like every time he fought. It was just like we knew like okay. What's going to happen now. Like is it going to be a flying is GonNa be a you know some crazy spinning like that's kind of fun. I got it and look the worst thing. We're the worst like you you know y'all come goes the other way and Kylie scores like a crazy knockout or something and Iraqi story and you know he's been talking so he will back it up and all of a sudden we have a little. Maybe not a huge star but we got a name right on her hands so I do think that mismatches have a place in May. I and I don't think it's it's always important to always have one but I think every now and then is okay and I think for this case. It's fine yeah. I mean Kylie like you. You hit on the head like if you haven't definitely go watch that press conference at Pizza Carol. was that the banter between those two the one liners they were slinging ads. There was a little scuffle full when they finally faced off like Michael Van Page like wouldn't even look at him. He was texting the whole time during the stare down and then Kylie was getting in his face so I love it. I love everything thing about it. I obviously I would favor. Vp there's other matchups. I would rather have him take especially because they were in this be welterweight Grand Prix and after he lost Douglas Lima they were other fresher fights. I would rather have seen him like take like There's like the Jon Fitch fight out there. The NEIMAN Gracie fight like there was a lot of well delays in that tournament ornament that I would rather have seen face. Korsakov is out there so not the sexiest fight on paper especially when you're looking at their records it's but Kylie's done a fantastic job and it's the Coleman three rounds. MVP has no issue taking backseats. James Gallagher himself said because this is James is card. I don't have to sell this fight like you think James Gallagher is not going to sell out the Dublin arena in Dublin like He. He knows his place. Which is why. I think he's being a little tame. I'm in the lead up to this fight. I believe it's tomorrow. No it's Friday Friday of this is Wednesday. It's Friday and then Saturday is the other big bell tower. the featherweight ground free. I believe they're also getting the seating for the actual tournament because this is like the Round Robin Style and then after everyone wins. They're GONNA do the K. One style where they pickle ball with a number and they pick where they wanNA fight and then the next one picks they wanNA fight so the last so like the first person doesn't get to pick her. They fight they just have to go pick where and when when they find and then after that it it sounds amazing. Apparently that's going down Saturday to. I can't wait for that. Producer pit bulls fighting in a GIG gay guard Mossy Loading Makita rematch match on that same card. There's a lot of exciting non things happening this week outside of UC Copenhagen but we're GonNa move along is is that the more exciting stuff is non Uzi. Maybe jared cannon ear. and Jacker Manson intrigues me very much so and clear rowntree's return is also superintendent but I can't disagree with you. We're GONNA move along. We have a few. UFC McNicoll questions. We're going to save those for the end because obviously those are going to be directed more towards you right right. We were talking about earlier from Robin. Ge Seven Colby Covington being leapfrogged by Mas All de as do you think Kobe's getting and peace out of his title shot because he is very bad. Negotiators associated with a small brain would've put it like that harshly but you tell them if if Danny if my ideas win impressively. Would you be surprised if tomorrow's Mun is fighting the winner of the the B. M. F. Champion next instead of called Covington. Will I mean you have have to do a title Unification Bout Right. That's so we now's the time is going to be stuck in the welterweight division. No hopefully not to be honest. That's that's where things get weird right no but honestly that's. That's such a possible thing in. Oh Yeah I can see that happening. No it's like a very very possible people think is the winner of that is just going to be a huge star Megaton. I think most of the fans would have an issue with uh having colby getting skipped or not because he doesn't deserve it just because it's colby you know what I'm saying. If it was another say like Tony Ferguson more of a likable figure I think people throw their hands up and go out there and tweet something today now wide or something like that but even then yeah the winner. There's going to be a huge star. I think could very well skip skibbe colby going yeah we already that the book Wissmann Verses Mrs or must be they had no issue ski skipping Colby so what makes you think they won't do it again with save if mobile wins with marble even being a bigger name than he was you know a few weeks ago when they try to fight but I think the big ally right now is is connor like if NATO wins and they do a trilogy connor and it's nate versus connor maybe nate drops back down to one fifty five and put the title on the line against Nate Connor and then all of a sudden connor owner say conor Winston. He's walking out with three championships now God. I can't even that that I can't even fathom that right now. I think there's a lot of things that could happen yeah. Both of these guys are interested in the big fights. I know horry module has always said the title is important to him but I I can't imagine if you drop money in front of him. He said I'll fight for the title fight conor because he sees dollar signs coming out of conner's mouth and we punch keeps getting. I don't know if you watched I Islam Media Circuit at ESPN where he did the Lebatardshow he did. He was on air show. He was even at the press conference and stuff people would ask him like when you. GonNa Fight. Are you going to fight conor next context and he's like Dana said I'm not so. I'm not worried about that guy so I think that's a little rope a dope. I think he's just trying to not talk about O'connor because obviously if he wins. He's going to say no to Conor McGregor. I think that's that's foolish but and you did you get to watch that press conference from from new did you make of that. That was nonsense wasn't not yet that might've been the worst I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah any shot thought to Phoenix Karnali Marc Lamont Guy Areo. I mean I think those were you know. They actually legit questions other than that. I mean the whole Vegan stuff and there was so much ridiculous shit but it's also look it's it's the US's job to filter this out right 'cause like if you open open open the floor for anybody to apply like you're going to any a bunch of people to apply. You have sees job to filter. CFC's dropped to hand out the Mike Right so I don't know I mean I think it was a little bit sides. It was rough man. I was watching it and I was waiting like it's all phoenix stand up and then those some issues with the microphone so she and yeah question they might have been some lost in translation but it was bows rough. If I mean you were at I believe you did. He say it in the medical card when someone asked him it might have been a scrum or the Ba- I care. It might have been the guest one. I can't remember but someone when asked him like some about the like. What did you see when he stared off when they did and he goes. Oh yeah all those questions were dumb like even kind of annoyed by like like there was nothing to sell the fight outside of the hey. You're a Vegan and just doing something back to be honest. It's also kind of getting hard. There's something I've noticed it and it's going to get is going to keep getting harder because whenever there's a firearm every press conference every interview something has said and then the fight builds layers right stories. These guys are not building any layers. They're just like I respect him. He respects me. We're not gonNA talk about each other but they're not saying absolutely anything anything so yeah. There are enough things to ask about you know. I asked you know Oh. You're crazy. You know Tony Montana stuff or whatever he wore in Mexico or Kobe Covington starve. You can ask several things that are floating around the outside of those things are gonNA run out at some point when we get like deep into fight into by week. I wonder what's going to be the talking point. I would have asked when I was there and like so much should ask. This has this but if you were if you were to Mexico you would have been there was so we didn't have anyone to ask questions. They're like Hey Dana. This is championship fight. Do they have to make championship wait. That's a legitimate question. I think yeah five round fight like if this this is a this is a sanctioned title fight like they have to make one seventy can they do. They get that one seventy one pound. There's a lot of questions we could've asked. I I did not enjoy anything about that outside of the and then there was the guy that was asking about the Patriots. There was a guy ask. Hey you're going to smoke a joint or have a beer after I'm just it's like come on guys like who who are these people but it's usually when they turned the mic to the fans in separate questions which are fun you know but again not for our media thousand thousand absolute train wreck. We're going to get one more question before we jump over to twitter and talks and talks and MUC- Mexico to forty five main event from our good friends at Cuco Keggi who Danny. I don't know if you remember we are. We are pronouncing that name correctly. There's always been a question of all the available champions who gets the main event of that card so usually to forty five has the the Bantamweight Championship. I believe which is I believe two forty five is the December fourteenth car that has Amana Nunez intervened Aranda me. I believe Max Holloway is fight involving Oscar on that card. So of all the champions available. Do they stick with these two title fights or did they add a third third one. I thought for sure John Jones fighting. John Block limits on this card my thought for sure by now John is now finding. He's doing his usual thing of fighting middleweights. It's coming up in testing. He did that with jagged scientists Rocco now. Here's another middle way in Zachary. Susan Powell card did not see that one coming at all so I if you would've asked me a couple of weeks ago I would say well Jonah Fight Yawn in the mandate and we'll just have three title fights but now what you say of all available champions who gets the main event or that car. I mean they can also add the Kobus man news not too late but but right now I mean I think I think with the fight that we have now. I think you know Holloway. Volkogonov ski takes right I would maybe but I think the man is a bigger star than both of those guys like when you when you saw Amanda Fight Rhonda the Komen Event was cody versus dominic in that same way class so like news. Rhonda Ronda was Rhonda's return. It is very true and conor did headline. Connor Aldo was above raffled wideman. I actually think that Amanda got more star power from from her wins over Holly Home in Cyborg than than she did with Rhonda like that whole bill they did quite poorly in the sense of the promoted motive just Rhonda Rhonda Rhonda and when Nunez one there wasn't much about her. You know it was just like it was it was more like a loss rather than newness defended under your belt yeah. It's a little bit of thousands a bit of a bomber and I also think there was a lot of questions out there like when we the last time we saw Rondo getting violently knocked out so when when Amanda violently knocked her out for a second time it's like yeah we've seen this before like how good is Amanda Nunez and then she went on another and then she had what that fight against Valentine's SHANECO which a lot of people I thought she lost the the second time eventually became a Rockstar when she beat cyborg highly home. Maybe Amanda Headlines Headlines over Max. I don't think Max would have that big of an issue. It seems like a pretty down Earth guy he but again historically historically the UC puts the heavier way class last year at the top unless it's someone like connor or Rhonda I'm but even again brock listener brock listener was like the Coleman event for me. She taped versus Amanda Newness a man headlines. UFC Two hundred over Brock Leser Dana Cormon Anderson Silva and Josie Aldo and came Alaska so they know title uh-huh zero that is true there was that is the main event was the main event was supposed to be Jones sounds corny before that we all know what happened to that but hey Amanda Nunez Headline News like some like if you look at it's also odd shoes on one ninety six. I believe Ucla Ninety six card art which was the connor nate one Suzanne. You'll see two hundred eighty two seven. She's been on some massive cards and now I think she's finally Jones Gus car. Choose the command event of that when she's not Cyborg so I think I think I'd give it as a slight edge in popularity over Max okay but if they chose Max over Falkowski but if you could obviously this is a moot point if Covington and Camara because there has to be made it a low listener I'm Sean Rama's firm host list of today explained Fox's Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world. We pick one essential news story that that defines our moment and ask smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start or end your day subscribe today explained leaned for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network. Yeah we're GONNA we're. We're GONNA move along a question from load Avik so Dan this one's for you. I would imagine the I ever Stevens what happened. What was your thinking. How do the crown turn so hostile. What's next for the two through fighters so Dan you're there. We can answer these questions but I think there's a segue into what was the atmosphere like in Mexico during that car because I was Washington with Casey being case we're watching and I was our Co.. Worker was watching and there was a lot of things that we were seeing on. TV later on we would see all the stuff being thrown from but those are cam like those are fan footage or there was like the camera on Brand Fitzgerald and Michael Bisbee that they later put out and Brandon. I chose I'M GONNA hide under the table and he was hiding under the table. People throwing beer and Michael Bisbee was sending up like shadow boxing at the crowd out. What was the atmosphere like that crazy arena while I was in the media room but I could hear the Reno at some points was louder than the actual. She'll speakers in the room so I could hear and I remember when all that was going on like I. I saw security run run by the door and I heard the crowd was throwing coins and the Mexican kind of heavy so I mean there's different sizes but anyways Dan yeah. It was intense in you know I think I think it's a lot of it is like culturally like that's how you know is very passionate. Passionate crowd like the night before I went to a wrestling show at Miami. He is a very old arena for for a wrestling show in like yeah. Adler people get into it. They were yelling at the wrestlers and then that's just kind of part of it. I think I think a big big reason why they were so upset. was you know it was the coming event was over. It was a fantastic fight so everybody was super edgy and on their feet in all riled up and then it was a bit of a suspect decision a lot of people thought Alexa Grosso one all you could make a case that was also like you know for for sparce so on top of that so they were disappointed with that that they expected a war between Stevens and Jeremy they got fifteen seconds of nothing and again worst case scenario after worst-case scenario area after worst-case scenario and then we saw what happened but yeah it was not a pretty sight. What was the atmosphere backstage and all the fighters got back there especially because you obviously didn't get to talk to Jerry Stevens but we saw air through your footage but woes it like when he actually walks through and they were the the fighters camps are everywhere right so oh on to win yeah. You're came in so the way the way the media room was working was the only English outlets there where myself. Ma May fighting DOT COM and Jon Jon Morgan May Junkie. Everybody else was from Mexico so cloudy. Sports a folks parties. ESPN IS BY NEW ORLEANS deal deal a bunch so so the way we were doing was that we were in order not to get a mixed bag of questions and then you have to cut knitted all this either either the the the the Hispanic. Let's go first and then the English or vice versa so jade actually went to talk in in Spanish first. I saw the whole thing I didn't record because we were going to get an English when I and there was actually some things that were said that you know weren't said in the English version he he actually came in very very calm the first thing he said he apologize for everything that happened and he addressed the media and the media for being there and being there all week and covering covering him and apologize for for for the performance and for what happened because he knew that obviously the media was looking to get more out of that but his demeanor was almost as someone that knew that that they were responsible for that card right obviously headline in in many ways carrying it and he needed to kind of put a face in it was almost very pr like like like like was he felt responsible for the car and I find in a way that was kind of Nice. It's something that the English viewers got robbed from. I think maybe it would have changed a lot of people's minds if they would have seen that. I mean you can see that from from the coverage of the Hispanic sites but if you only wash English once you missed up but he was very collected at that point I think it was only in the octagon where he when he was like super brought yeah and the the US did a good job but they were trying to hide as much as possible from like when when we were we saw stuff being thrown in when they had like Jeremy Stevens walking out but yeah they did a good job of cutting away and then as the footage started come out of the fans and then you will ask us and Brian Ortega kind of like yelling to octagon side. I'm not like I've been to soccer games or football games in Mexico like I've seen the medical outright play the US national team that obviously gets shockingly hostile like I went twice. I went with you you from the United States so I walked in through the entrance where the US fans have to people throw like urine at you yet yearn and coins and beer and everything but then I've also oh entered with my Mexican family and it's obviously just a big celebration so I wasn't surprised that that's how it reacted because I've seen that firsthand hands with how Mexican fans can be especially to American fight especially to American athletes was super disappointing but to answer more of this question what is next for the fires. I think the only answers the rematch because right now the rematches a bigger deal than ever before yet I agree and I didn't feel this way as soon as the fight was over. I feel this way like a day removed. I felt this way as soon as we started as soon as we started seeing the footage come out of the hotel ride and all this and then weighing in jade weighing in because the the whole lead up to the fight was okay. I'm fighting Jeremy Stevens but he wanted somebody higher. He wasn't really wasn't okay with that opponents so when I was over like okay it's it's over like. I want somebody else so he wasn't he wasn't to stoke to fight. Jeremy Steve's in the first place so I kind of thought like okay and then you know the way some fans were reacting about Jeremy Stevens. I guess decision to not continue fighting. Which I think is going to ridiculous. I just kind of thought the whole thing was a bit of a dud but then after seeing what happened the hotel and all that I think this fight is even bigger. I think you have to book it. Just not in Mexico yeah. They're not going back the Mexican the Mexican. What did you think of yours comments. Though saying like Jeremy Stevens have to live with this for the rest of his life like I fought with my eyes closed against Frankie Edgar like from my count like I'm seeing a lot of hate on on his reaction to like him being him saying like like I said like him. Confronting Jeremy Stevens Jerem studios like Bro. You poked in the eye and he's like you have the rest of your life lifelock. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but I fought for gear with one. Is this and that what you pointed in those in those comments. It's weird because rat after after the fight like you've got to keep in mind like us in the media were sitting. You know we're sitting in a nice comfortable chairs in a nice comfortable environment. We're looking at different angles goals in replays. We got a nice sound system so we're kind of getting a good look of of everything right whereas right after the fight when he reacted due to all that in the scrum the only thing he'd seen was being in the octagon right looking up at the big screen but you also got a million distractions that commission checking up on you even if it was a fifteen second. Friday commission check zero. K always your coroner's talking to you. The whole crowd was going crazy right. There's so many things so. I don't think he he actually got to analyze exactly what happened right. Also key he also has a different angle that we don't have and and we will never have he saw what happened. He saw how far his fingers went into Jeremy Stevens. Is You know he he saw. Maybe it wasn't that bad. I don't know again. That's only only jade those that's but I what I will have to say is Jeremy Stevens has been fighting the for how long he's like what third-most fights it's ever in. UC history something ridiculous. He's never backed out at a fight. He I mean this guy enjoys violence. He's a dog I mean he. He is one of the very very very few fighters left of that old square. That's just like Donald fight anybody anywhere literally right. He spent thirty thousand dollars for that camp. He went out there. Mexico early prior to like the crowd turning on him he always felt like he was a big part of the Mexican community and it was such a big moment for him. No I don't think he he was faking it. In any way. Also it's not like any other fights where where the fight would have developed and then and we would have seen him get his ass whooped and then you're like and then he gets poked on your like all right well. He wanted to fifteen seconds. You know what I'm saying like right. There was no he wasn't getting beat. You know what I'm saying so you can't even use that against them. So I believe Jeremy Stevens says he wasn't able to continue one hundred percent believe him and and you were so you saw the like you saw the broadcast like they zoomed in on the I like the doctor was couldn't even pried open yeah and like something you notice when and they were doing it like try to try to keep your eye closed without like without making any strength like forcing like your you know what I'm saying like. It's impossible muscle like his all. This was relaxed and they couldn't even open it. You know what I'm saying so I was unbelievable but again germs. Jade was fired up. This was a big moment moment for him. He's also in a weird spot in his career where he's like hasn't fighting in a super long time takes a short notice. Fight Against Casey does amazing now. This is the moment went to follow up. It's been ten months and yet this happens. You know what I'm saying so I understand his frustrations as well but I mean I think Jeremy Stevens. There's no. I just don't see him lying. I just don't see I don't see it either and the biggest one of the biggest bummer of this fight is like you said it yourself you interview and he said like I wanted Jimmy. Stevens is a good opponent. He wishes he had a higher number next to him. He knew the dangers of this fight and he was taking it anyway. This felt like a kind of a placeholder fight for air like if he had beaten Jeremy Steven Snot like stock would have risen tremendously unless he did it in spectacular fashion but you don't see that he has during Stephen's often often yeah and there were so many questions with the IR liked he yes he be Korean Zombie but he was one second away from losing he was one second away like if Korean Zombie had had notched Rushton. That's an L. for Jari doesn't get that crazy knockout still a great fight but doesn't get that and say knockout one is arguably the greatest knock on UCSD before that he loses badly Frankie. Have your head says I closed like one of the get input there ever gets put to whichever in between that he gets cut he pulls out the fight against a beat and then before that he beats. BJ Penn it one of the satisfieds I've ever witnessed live so there were so many questions about like yes we all know jar is great fighter but there are questions about how great he was include. He take this nextstep to really cement himself in the upper echelon. Jerry Jones was a good test and we didn't even get that so this isn't the same place yeah. There's still so many questions out there about this guy hi. I'm even looking at twitter right now. There's all like I'm curious like from at I am the Mike. I'm curious but why are Rodriguez thought thought it was a good idea to entice the fans even after they were already throwing things into the cage. I understand the passion but that wasn't passionate was. I don't know I didn't see that. Did you see ya like trying to get up on the on the octagon side to like save something but I don't think he was like making them yell at you. No I don't think he was like telling him like you know throw more stuff. He was doing any of that but he did get like on the hyping them up you can get on the on the cage and he you know he put his fist up and he's like yelling and and when you see that right you even more hyped up as as a as a crew member and if you've had a few beers you know that just goes up the roof so I think he could have control that better but at the same time it's like you got you gotta analyze what state he's in like he was he he not all the time although he was not stoked to. Jimmy seems t knew that was a dangerous fight. He knew Jeremy Stevens was is ready for more. Yes he knew he was going to get into a war right and that was a big moment for him. Main event you know Jeremy Stevens was talking a lot of smack about him in the he was in it throughout the week he never really bit back or said anything back negative about them whereas Jeremy Stevens was telling us going to kick them around like a Chihuahua and all this so I think I think what we saw. There was a culmination of like look. This guy has been talking smack about me all week now. We're about to fight now. He's he's backing down. You know he saying he's he's not gonNA fight so again all of those emotions that were contained through five week. We're just pouring out and I think it's a little bit of a release. He did not get through fight week right even even in the face off like you get see. Jeremy Stevens get real intensity his face and just smiling and laughing so I think he wanted to release all of that in the fight and he didn't getting get a chance to so when he didn't. I mean all those emotions after go somewhere and we saw where they went so I don't blame him for that because again. That's that's a different state of mind. Mind your in. You know what I'm saying so again I don't I don't agree with it but like I understand it yeah. It's it's just in a fortunate situation for all especially because I think all week I I love that group photo. All the Mexican fighters took together. It really shows how far the mets I may scene has grown even without there was no came Alaska's on that car. There's no Henderson who to on that car. No Brian Ortega like these are three Mexican Americans but these were very different. Me and Brian are taken talked a lot about where he felt like he could really help the Mexican. Mac grow if the Mexican audience embraced him as a Mexican rather than a Mexican American but all that first of all the actual born and raised Mexican fighters just warmed my heart and it is so disappointing as as a Mexican. I was really happy to see all that. It was just so disappointing to see not only how this ended by now. A lot of the talk is about how the fans reacted a lot of people say donkey back to Mexico. This tainted the down there like like it is truly disappointing for me. I'm sure it was his point of view to fly all the way down their debt sick watch yard term. You Steven's fight for fifteen seconds but there were still a lot of exciting fights on that car. We're going to jump back the twitter from at digital tricycle. One MERANO versus Askerov Round three was deemed at ten Hannah but GRAUSO versus a sparse wasn't in the very next fight and as such wasn't scored a draw which is how I had it is time for. Ma to try harder for more consistent judging judging criteria yes danny will use this as an opportunity to speak about the event but Unites Aggressive Decarlo sparce that fight ruled. I thought the fight for that one Marino Marino ask her off. I thought that it was going to be the fight of the night until across a call sparce. I wish they had both gone to fight of the night bonuses. But what did you make of the judging. How how did you score the call to fight. How did you score the Brandon Marino fight you were there. I'm sure you guys were all talk in the media. I was obviously saying that's the case so we had our own opinions but what was the reaction backstage in the media so we're all working so we're all watching the fights. That's why like whenever you see me like post host a score on my twitter timeline it's because I watched the entire fight right if I don't watch the entire fight of missed the minute or thirty seconds of around because I'm working. I'M NOT GONNA judge on an even even if like I hear the commentary and I kind of know how it's going. I'm I'm just not going to give share my thoughts on that so I'm going to treat this the same way like I have because I've been so sick I haven't gone back and watch the entire fight but from the moment that I saw for example. I thought that Brandon Moreno I had one. I thought that sparce had taken the first round. I believe I don't remember how the other rounds win but I remember member in the feeling in the media room it was most likely withdraw that gross who had taken a ten eight round and then sparce had maybe taken into ten nine rounds those one clear around that sparce one but it was tight and then dealer to one hundred percent gross dominated needed and the other one was kind of India that was kind of like the feeling in the media so so yeah I mean I think the judging is we've talked about this at length their issues with the way we judge fights enemy but also there are issues within the commission of anime in a lot of you. You know media talking about this about the commission. There are certain things that happened at the Wayne's as well and there's some of the things that the commission has to has to get right but a lot of that is because there's not a whole lot of MMA in Mexico so this commission's don't get to get reps in you know so they are going to get things wrong but yeah. I think it's a little bit of combination of a flawed system plus a commission. That's not one hundred percent trained yeah and Casey was is much more upset over the Alexa Crossover corresponds. If I had it a draw. He thought it was pretty clear for Alexa Rosso. I didn't think it was terrible decision. I thought it was that close. He seemed a little more upset than in but this seems like one of those fights I think she said it herself when the scrum that you posted in her English speaking one where it's like she lost but she she she feels like a winner like she didn't lose anything in this loss is she came out better even though she an El Al I get it. Hurts doesn't get her win bonus and all that stuff but she she she came out better in the eyes of the fans. I think a lot of clicks she cal- Caroline Kovacevic that she just arguably just beat another former champion Carlos bars. I think she's one of the bigger stars but before we wrap it a little bit more. I want to ask you because you were there any other even in the lead up to the fight like you interact. You're at me today. You interviewed everyone. You saw the fights. Were there any other performances weather at media day at the fights. Hi It's even backstage scrums with any other names that kind of elevated themselves coming out of fight week in your eyes I mean Stephen Peterson scored a beautiful who knockout and he had very compelling scrum. I encourage you to check that out if you haven't I don't know he wanted a ranked opponent next. I don't know if he's going to get one but after after that performance I think he's definitely on my radar because I know what he can do. Maybe he's not what he's GonNa do every five but he's definitely capable of doing that in. I'm just in the environment that he did it in. It's just tough so he came out of big winner also taking Eunice. I interviewed on prior to the fight eight in Spanish and uploaded the interview on our Youtube Channel with subtitles. It's hard the scribe how big of a star he is but in Mexico he he is he is a big deal. He's I the Mexican. The Mexicans execute their connect with him better than any other fighter. He's doing yeah. He's doing for example starting like social programs to help kids with. I think he he called La Malaysia and he's trying to develop that as well you know he he he does. He's trying to do a lot of good things for Mexico and for the youth and he's tough guy you know he puts on exciting fights. He's got his whole look with the mustache and everything he just looks very cool. It's he doesn't speak any English so that doesn't cross over to the US fan base but in Mexico like gotta all the fighters he he's well known and he's a big deal and he was aww four five four three five win streak and then he went to London and Nathaniel. Would we know how good nathaniel would is took a loss lost their but now you know he came back and got us solid win over cuddles which are pretty dominant when I think of this guy keeps getting some wins and hopefully learn learned some English. I think he you know he could be a guy. That is a big deal for Mexico is a big player that I'll donna blew me away to. I watched that that replaces is that question marking. She landed on What was your mental over and over and over that. was she had gone that knocked out. I think she would have been the biggest star because that was a flawless performance against an opponent in short notice opponent came in overweight because of the she missed weight but I think she completely blew me away. I don't know what's next for her. She wants a ranked opponent. I think Clinton couldn't sky. I think is the only other one that I think I think they're like seven eight right there. I think everyone in the top five books just bought or or is injured or whatever I think couldn't sky is a good match for her ranked like really like ones above the other. I think they're right there. I think this is going to be but she completely clearly blew me away but yeah all around and also she so exciting every single fight she's been in the US's exciting like that's that's a good fighter to have in your division somebody that you can rely on for exciting fights and she's speaks perfect. Spanish spoke English good English just like not the not the best deals but good enough. I think she kind of has that charm of Habib speaks English a kind of the fact that he can't Ashiq perfect English kind of makes him intriguing and like you want more about this guy but we're running up on time so as usual Danny. The floor is yours for any promo. I know you've talked about you. Go grow your back in the states. We got a lot of fight cards coming up this week so we haven't talked to anything my UC Copenhagen whatever you WanNa talk about the floor is yours. There's not really much of a promo but more of a PSA so I got a lot of hate so we posted a a scrum on EMI fighting dot com our youtube channel of court him as who answered some questions in English and then refused to keep answering anymore orange the entire scrum basically in Spanish. I love and the responses that I got where ridiculous where like what are you talking about the UFC see American company here. You speak English all this a bunch of nonsense right. I don't know me growing up all the time that you know I heard either people telling my parents or my brother and myself or my friends urine. America's speak English in although that's kind of harsh okay we're in America August. What were they must be that is in Mexico the only two American meow those only to American media outlets there there was like ten of them that were Hispanic so there there is absolutely nothing wrong with him deciding to speak Spanish at scrum especially when he's in a country that speak Spanish with the majority of media outlets is that are there covering it that only speak Spanish. They're covering it in Spanish. So if you you know we did we put subtitles on it so you can definitely get everything that that he saying. You know what I'm saying. It's not like you're missing out so don't complain about that. It's like it's like telling Jiang. Wei Li not to speak Mandarin or you know what I'm saying like. I think the most ridiculous thing in the world so not really a promo but I just wanted to say like like Joe out like Corey mobilize is completely in his right to speak Spanish if he wants yeah and every user and everything he was pretty much what he'd been saying already like when you interviewed him in English. Att DT before the Nate Diaz fire then getting interviewed forty one him at the at the press conference all that stuff so yeah could have said any better than myself. I I wish you had gone last because that's way better way of what I'm GonNA end on. I'M GONNA end on real quickly before Israel signed. You fought come gasoline. I did this thing on twitter where I broke down his favor on. May fight and you guys all loved it. You guys asked me to do it again. So you tell me which is to do this time you tweeted at Jose. Young's or you can just make Danny make tell me to do it at Dana. Cigarette TV credits. You're over here so you tell me 'cause you guys are asking me to do it again now. That Israel is on his fight but you tell me which one you want to do you and I'll get on that and we can talk about it next day side but Dan anything else you want to say before we go. We sign off for this week. All right do not eat seafood in Mexico not seafood and Mexico. I could've told Danny that for went there. Don't drink the water either the heart for until then pizza carols barrels on the UC Dublin Media Day is going to be there for UFC Dublin or Dublin. He's going to be there for ballots are done with James. Gallagher Benson Henderson fights myles jury very on that card to even talk about that. We won't have anybody use Copenhagen but Casey Liden is an Ester Leonard going to be on the scene for the by believes belt or to twenty-eight. I I believe or two thousand six. which is the show Patrizio pit bull versus one Adalat? 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GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 97: May Fights Continue

GSMC MMA Podcast

1:08:54 hr | 5 months ago

GSMC MMA Podcast Episode 97: May Fights Continue

"Need your daily fix on Mixed Martial. Arts recap. Bela Tor one fifty. Five scene. One Ninety who out of a controversial decision. Who's not I couldn't figure out. Why don't you fret because golden state media concepts your daily dose of Anime podcast everything from the US or fighting Jimmy extreme cage victim fighting champ such join us as we talk about some of the biggest names in mix martial arts? We've got you covered here on. Golden STATE MEDIA CONCEPTS EMANATE PODCAST. And thank you for tuning into GSM see MMA. Pot brought FUBOTV podcast and I'll say it again. I hope you are doing fine for yourself. You're healthy you your friends your family your all fine whether you live in the states or internationally you're all healthy during a time of major uncertainty and so you see to Friday night just happen unless episode reviewed every that happened four four nine. It is a great show. I recommend everybody to go watch it. Just engage cheever's. Tony Ferguson. Was great my underrated. Fight of the night would be nico price was say percent require. That was a great fight as well as a night full of controversy and a night of major events happening in the world mixed martial arts from Henry retirement to the surprise victory of just engaged. I recommend everyone to go wash. Ufc Two forty nine. If you haven't yet look up the fights look up more news about the event because overall it was a really good it was a really great show honestly and even the polls press conference when I was asked. Well how did other people respond to to forty nine? I was really interested in that. Because yes pnn Disney. They themselves directly told. The A light. Hey girl is not going to be a UFC. Two forty nine happening in California but then apparently according to the phone call from the from his high ups and they said Oh it was great. It was a great success and they give him praise so good for the white for being able to push you to continue to happen and it was a great car to might be the best hard of the entire entire year so far and might be the best car the air and might have the second or third best fights of the year at my kitchen. Are You WANNA checkers? While was better than Twenty Ferguson Position Bridge just gateway but it also save where versus Nico Price was also a great fight. And I think it's one of the best you should look out there even know liquid and Nico Price. Aren't the most popular fighters out there? If you want to see something similar to gatekeepers ferguson except more more two sided where both fighters are going back and forth. I recommend that fights so if you have see two four nine here now we have fight nights Smith versus Here I'M GONNA I'm GonNa talk about all the appeal the appeal and the me card fights here so got chase. German RISI's building the waiver hunter observers Brian Kello- Gabriel. Benitez Omar Morales eubanks. Lucero says Michael Johnson. Good morning says if you're an offense Michael Johnson Iraq and deal everybody's been is a fun fight although he is placed in journeyman position already. Michael Johnson's excited fighter. And I expect to lose honestly against the choices but expect to be a really fun Andrew. We'll fight and the main events for the pre card here is Andrea loss versus Phillip. Lynes that's GonNa be fun fight. Every fight was a lofty is a fun one as always and then go to the main card here we got Karl Roberson versus Marvin Vittoria. Then we got ricky. Simon Ray bore Greek. I'm Rosario Borg in my personal opinion. Could be the fight of the night in my opinion ricky. Seven raybird are two very underrated fighters to very quick very smooth. Great animators could run game fire fighters so I say a rookie. Steiner's Ray Borugu might be that the night of this entire car here. That's my prediction hopefully turns out great. I think it's really great lightly about here between Alexander Hernandez versus drew dober- Alexander night is. I'm still sold on Hernandez really. I really am Hernandez that guy who gets it. If you'd have Gelson Kobe Covington and Benazir there's like Watch Alexandra Fernandez the Oh this Hernandez Kid. He gets it. He's GonNa be big in the AFC and if you're a hardcore fan of mixed martial arts New Might Look Auxerre Hernandez and you might see like copycat. Kobe COVINGTON'S COPYCAT HASSARD copycat chills. Where this dude this amid car slash Lower Carter? Who talks a big game in because he talks a big game? He ended bypassing his way. Pass a lot of fighters up fighting in a top tier fighter. The highest he ever bought was running and that pretty much right now. Gone Youtube type up down. Or if you just have a gun. Iran is. You're going to see his matchup against Australia. And the Videos House called Don's Sironi humbles Alexan- Hernandez and it pretty much like three minutes of Hernandez talking trash to Sironi. And then when the fight actually happens. They're only completely dominated him he really does and that as many clean shots. Surani against those shots just didn't really matter to the end here and it certainly pretty much before of him and then Alexander Hernandez fight His last bites he fought. Get somebody who participated in the salacious book. When I saw the fights Hernandez should've lost by and said he ended up winning the fight via decision and it was a very controversial victory. Because you see you look at her opponents who is Brazilian and it's all clean all. He's not even breathing. Heavily and these Alexandra Fernandez looks tired. Who LOOKS GAFFES? Helix defeated his his. His face bloodied up. He's all sweaty and stuff and then when it's announced Alexander Hernandez one. He gives the shocked face. The shock of Michelle Waterson and caused Mars like both have when it was announced as a really I one or like really the happened interesting. I am surprised. Alexandra is is has gone this far. He's eleven to he's lemon so I really wish that he doesn't try to copy. He's trying to copy the Kobe. Covington's and the Conor McGregor I recommend fighters to be like really to be themselves even interviews. He tends to play a character which is really upsetting to me. It's fun if you're the juggler she'll Sunan is that we know that's not actually him and we know he's a wrestling van Alexander Hernandez though obviously comes across as a guy who's very desperate and in need of attention and I don't I don't respect that aspect and forgo becoming item respect the fact that he's a great fighter and that he was able to fight his way to the top five and compete with the very best in the top five Hernandez. I'm not really sure if your trash if you're need to talk trash and he is able to have a three or four or five win streak and top five then. I respect them but for now. I don't really think so. Heavyweight event Ben Rothwell versus vein Saint Pru or p making his debut in the heavyweight division good for Os p good for him if you look at O. Espn as lead have read bouts. He is really slow. He's easily outmatch outgunned towards Every fighter in the light heavy division. Here I don't when I looked at. Ospf I keep bites away too slow. He fights way too slow he he he gets out. He gets that way too easily for light. Heavyweights also comes across the very big. He's a very big fired. He's a very big striker and light. We hit in division though. He doesn't really kind of comes across a frail my opinion so me and my friends have discussion about this. What is a frail wheel so frail will? Is this really big large spider. That doesn't come across. That doesn't come across as a large big her. That's how I view so S. P. in all those doubts and light-heavyweight except the John Jones fight he comes across as so much bigger than other opponents like in terms of like muscular size like his posture. He comes across as so much bigger than his opponents but when he starts fighting head cakes punches he'd just come across as he is so slow that he's fighting more slow than the division want them to fight and so by the heavy. That's going to be really interesting to look at me. Give me finding Ben a veteran and the heavy division. I have no clue. GonNa win in this fight. I gotTA SAY OH P. Is going to defeat Ben. Rothwell in this match up here. Just because fighters are both coming off losses and so I say oh speed is gonNA feed Ben Rothwell the base. I think when somebody when fighter moves up most of the time when if I'd moves up or change the way classes they had the second win or the sense of rejuvenation with them because the wait could isn't as damaging towards oers P P always looks really tired in all his fights