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May 27, Hr 1  Space, moths, and the governor of Virginia

Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA

31:59 min | 1 year ago

May 27, Hr 1 Space, moths, and the governor of Virginia

"This is mornings with Kale. Fueled BY GREAT WESTERN PETROLEUM. Only thirteen ten. Kfi to the moon that meet lay money. Okay well we might not be headed back to the moon yet. But thanks to the ultimate Public Private Partnership Yes. Capitalism to the rescue once again we are going back to space. Humans were back in the space race. All Eyes on pad thirty nine a on the Space Coast Cape Canaveral. This morning announced bit fogged in this morning and many meteorologists giving the afternoon launch slated for four thirty three eastern to thirty three mountains to nine giving that launch fifty fifty shot but yeah us sending astronauts into orbit for the first time in nearly a decade six. Oh eight thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten K. F. K. A. DOT com or Gail live local fueled by great western petroleum. Why does this matter well? It's not only about space and exploration also goes to national security and defense. But here's what's kind of interesting an interesting little factoid. As we look forward to that space x launch this afternoon slated for this afternoon of course very very stormy right around Cape Canaveral so once again fifty fifty shots at indeed. We will see that shot this afternoon but do you realize that we have only put humans on brand new spacecraft only four times in history Mercury Gemini Apollo and the Shuttle Program Course. The shuttle program was shuttered in two thousand eleven. And that's when well we started kind of hitch a ride with Russia but yep sending astronauts into orbit for the first time in nearly a decade this afternoon this is NASA and Elon Musk's SPACEX plans to launch the first manned flight of the crew dragon capsule carrying Bob Benkin and Doug Hurley and you should check out their uniforms owed they are all dressed up in sartorial splendor. Courtesy of course Elon. Musk but again carrying Bob Benkin Doug Hurley to the International Space Station now since the space shuttles final mission. This was way back win in July of two thousand eleven. Yeah we've relied on Russia's Soyuz to transfer it for NASA crew members to and from the International Space Station after thirty years to catastrophic accidents. Perhaps it was time to retire the shuttle but NASA failed multiple times to develop a replacement. The Obama Administration canceled George W Bush's Constellation Project and with it. The affordable areas one rocket based on shuttle technology instead they chose to build on the commercial orbital transportation system contracts and gave Boeing and SPACEX responsibility for the space craft. The plan was to have the Boeing star liner and the space x Screwdriver crew dragon ready in twenty seventeen. Now the contracts allowed Boeing and spacex to build their designs with minimal minimal government oversight and supervision while NASA carefully ensured that both vehicles met at safety requirements the company's free to maintain their methods their techniques and their internal cultures in order to get her done so far space. X appears to have done a better job. Boeing's December twenty thousand nine star liner test flight to the International Space Station actually failed revealing serious serious software problems that required a second unmanned flight test later this year. In spite of having according to one report thirty eight percent more funding from NASA well Boeing may lose to its upstart competitor if SPACEX is first manned flight goes as planned the Hawthorne California Based Company. Will Win. The lion's share of the NASA contract to send astronauts to the International Space Station will also compete with the Russians to send crews from Europe Japan and elsewhere to the station doubt. Mr Mosque will find room for a few paying tourists. Why wouldn't he? Oh but I'll bet he'll be very very proud of those flights. Below spendy right. Much of space x is ever is concentrated on the ambitious starship development program which aims to build a fully reusable launch vehicle that can enter orbit and ultimately conduct manned missions to the moon even. Mars while starship has made progress spacex has won contracts that will keep its current Falcon nine and Falcon Heavy rockets busy for a long long time This according to a piece I pulled out of the Wall Street Journal by Taylor Zimmerman. Meanwhile there's also the question of what the crew dragon or its derivatives aside from serving as well an uber to and from low or low earth orbit. One suggestion is that it serves as a lifeboat attached to the International Space Station. In theory it could be modified to serve the same function on. Nasa's planned Lunar Orbiting Space Station the gateway other derivatives could be developed to allow it to fly between space stations or if equipped with an air. Lock that to serve as a construction check. Yeah that's a technical term a construction shack when the space industry decides to create large orbiting structures such as solar power satellites factories or processing plants for minerals mind on the moon asteroids or elsewhere for that matter such facilities may need human builders and repairmen. New VERSIONS OF THE CREW. Dragon might be used too much. Helicopters are used to take workers to oil platforms getting Americans flying back into the space getting America back into the space race on American made craft. I think we can agree. Is Long overdue after all? Think about it this way wearing a civil and military space race with China which just used its new. Long March Five B launch vehicle to put a prototype of a new capsule into orbit Beijing. Slow steady breakout into space will be a major international and extra terrestrial challenge of the next decade. So sure once again and we're hoping that the weather Mother Nature cooperates but this is a big deal as NASA and eat on. Moss have teamed up with space access. Again slated for four thirty-three eastern time this afternoon to thirty three mountain time weather permitting. President trump by the way is headed down to Cape Canaveral. Because I heard a great quote and other trumpism if ever there was one because he's pretty fond of saying rich guys love rockets more important than that is that. Nasa's Demo to launch with spacex is certainly a much much needed shot of inspiration and hope in a time of covid nineteen causing it on six sixteen. Now Thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten K. K. A. dot com mornings with Gail fueled by Great Western Petroleum. This time check sponsored by caring hearts home health care serving northern Colorado since two thousand one where patient care always comes first nine seven zero three seven eight fourteen nine or carrying hearts H H DOT com. What the whole sports story in northern Colorado state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten KFI K. While the whole sports story northern Colorado state in the country tune into the hull show weekdays noon to and thirteen ten. Kfi A so. You HAVE GOVERNOR. Jared bullish yesterday saying that he considers eating at a restaurant to be reasonably safe and quote a matter of survival for tens of thousands of Colorado ins rely on jobs in that industry. But well some restaurants say we ran through those capacity guidelines. I know is confusing as they might have sounded but some restaurants say that the capacity guidelines are much much stricter than they appear. And some can't justify reopening again. We've talked to great length about those profit margins very narrow in the restaurant industry and governor US allowed restaurants to reopen their dining rooms for you know in restaurants dining with numerous restrictions but I believe it was fifty percent fifty percent but some restaurants saying they just can't justify reopening under the new regulations. Six twenty four now thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten KFI. A DOT COM or gale. Fueled by Great Western petroleum so governor police's comments according to nine news came during an hour. Long news conference just yesterday. This is the governor's first since his office released the guidelines that do allow restaurants to reopen very carefully very cautiously for dine in service beginning. Today I want to acknowledge the pain that are restaurants have been through and boy. They have been through a lot haven't they? These businesses again will be allowed to reopen at fifty percent capacity inside with the option to expand outdoor seating into sidewalks parking lots and other spaces with municipal approval. I even heard that they were thinking about restaurants That are in perhaps a residential area. There was talk that they might be able put a tables and chairs on people's lawns to win. So I had a scooby doo moment. It was kind of like Ru. Can you imagine the I mean? I think it's well intentioned but can you imagine the liability inherent that would that be something as a homeowner? I mean your heart might want to take it on but your minds probably saying oh my gosh. I don't know if is such a great idea or not. Businesses like breweries. Distilleries will be allowed as we talked about yesterday to reopen as long as they serve food out. Police said the food itself isn't what guides this model all to the contrary but rather efforts to limit social interactions between different groups of people. Governor said some bars that rely on social interactions main. Choose not to reopen the expectation. Socially is that your with your party. Said it's not an environment to be with other parties. Now that's also. The rationale police said guided the reopening of ski areas. Got An interesting piece. Wanted to pass along to you. If you Jones into get out there and get in some late skiing maybe some boarding as well. Eight basin has outlined how it will operate if it does indeed reopen for skiing and snowboarding. So we'll get to that in just a few but the governor said the act of skiing itself is relatively safe but the social nature of the sport is what piqued his concern. It's not the normal partying and post skiing environment. If you're in it for the actual skiing he said this could be for you. But if you're in for the party partying and the Kagan Keggers Yeah. He said that the Cagey Keggers. It won't be now. News conference came the same day that the Colorado Department of Public Health and environment released. Its latest modeling. Which showed that? If Colorado INS fail to maintain that sixty five percents social distance for the foreseeable future coronavirus cases in the state who would exceed intensive care unit capacity. Health officials said Colorado is in for social distancing and a ban on large public events for the long haul but Police declined to confirm if this will be the case in August and indeed into September. Because you know there's some concerns that we might see a second wave of covid nineteen in the ball. We're not going to lock ourselves into something based on projections. Thanks Heaven for that. Because can you tell me one single projection one single solitary model? That has been accurate. Oh silly me. I forgot models aren't supposed to be accurate they're just supposed to give you Best and worst case scenarios but again the governor saying. We're not gonNA lock ourselves into something based on projections adding that. He does indeed look at multiple models. Not just the one provided by the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment Police added. If you're asking what July and August two a look like well once again. They're not going to look like normal this as well as a result of covid nineteen any concept of what normal actually is has pretty well been obliterated six twenty nine now. Thirteen ten K. KFI K. Thirteen ten KFI K. A. DOT com. All right. So I'm sitting outside doing some show. Prep this morning does stupid. Thirty out on the back. Five as the case may be sitting on the back porch and I think anyone Even the most casual observer will agree that there's no shortage of months. Those Miller Mas in the supply chain actually watched a robin hop across the back porch. And Gobble up this poor unassuming little moth areas. I'm off. I don't know I'm gone. Well that's one less of the gazillions that we're dealing with the season and I couldn't help but think. Pardon me being a little bit crass here but it must suck to be a moth. I mean they're definitely somewhere near the bottom of the evolutionary totem pole. Nothing but annoying. But if you think they're already everywhere you ain't seen nothing yet everything you ever wanted to know or not about those pesky. Miller MAS coming up. Six thirty now. Thirteen ten K. F. K. Thirteen ten am preps radio as northern. Colorado's home for the past high school coverage. If you miss any portion of mornings with gail go thirteen ten. Kfi DOT COM download. The podcast today back to gail. We don't have enough to contend with with all the restrictions and the changes wrought by covid nineteen. Now we're seeing the invasion of the Miller six thirty seven now thirteen ten gave gay thirteen ten KFI K. dot com mornings with Gail live local. Fueled by Great Western Petroleum. What is it about Miller Moss? That make them so darn annoying. And why? Why are we seeing so many of them right now? Now I suppose if we're looking for the silver lining unlike covid nineteen at least can see them and see them. We are Yup. You had images showing swarms swarms of Miller Mas well started to take over social media and researchers at Colorado State. University says this year you'll be seeing so many more of them. Oh Yeah Way Dr Frank. Pierre's is a professor of entomology who along with another researcher track. The Movement of Miller mayes working front piece from Channel Four by Karen Muffin. It's just one of those things he said about the Miller moth invasion here in Colorado but for many of us trying desperately to keep them out of our homes like Gina Duly Aurora is. The feeling is quite the opposite saying Gina Says. I absolutely hate them. I don't know if I take it to that level but I mean they're thumbs up box a rocks just saying lumber hate them. They're back and earlier than in previous years. So if you're dealing with hundreds of moss swarming around the lights around your home well turn off lights It made feel like a record year but peers says this here is actually considered average. It's been below average for the last four years so people have kind of forgot about him. He said an average year means that some people will be bothered by them count and some won't in a bad year. Everybody has bothered. Pierce says the MAS originate in fields across eastern Colorado Kansas and Nebraska. They migrate West to spend the summer feeding on flowering crops in the mountains and can be quite harmful to crops. He says if front range residents are seeing more of the Pesky bugs is because of drier conditions this year compared to last reducing the number of blooming flowers so according to their research at Colorado State University that freeze in mid April only added to the lack of blossoms from plants leading to higher concentrations of MAS arrogated landscapes like yards and gardens. He said along with the flowers. There's another attraction. You know exactly what that is. The other part of it is. They're attracted to lights so urbanized and sub urbanized areas are going to be well beacons for them while they're harmless to most those that do make their way endorse can indeed be a nuisance for some a little bit frightening but most say that dealing with the Miller. Mov is well a sacrifice we must make that comes with living in Colorado duly. Meanwhile Ross definitely used to it. But I think I forget now. Here's the good news. Bears says they won't stick around forever and warm nights will speed up their migration. He says they're typically back east to buy falls. So how about some Miller moth fast facts? Courtesy of Colorado State University. Ain't never know when you're going to be challenging all of those the intellectuals on jeopardy right why are they called Miller Moss? Well it's because they have fine scales that easily rub off cover their wings these fine scales and you've seen that I mean it's kind of like if you touch one They just leave this kind of Chunky. It's Kinda like a crime scene. Imprint of their little bodies scales remind people of the dusty flower on the clothing of Grain Millers. Hence the name filler moth. What was the heaviest moth flight in recent history? Well since at least the early one thousand nine hundred eighty s the heaviest most prolonged flight of Miller Moss across eastern Colorado occurred way. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. What eats them all. I know that Fat Robin on my back Porch. This morning certainly saw that Miller Moth Mama. I think I don't know I'm done. Certainly sees Miller Mas as a delicacy. They have many natural enemies including predatory ground beetles hunting wasps. Many Birds Grizzly bears in yellowstone are known to feed on large numbers of the fat rich. Mas they find hiding under loose rocks but then you might have noticed another phenomenon that comes along with the Miller. Moth invasion and that is the swallow commonly observed phenomenon during Miller time as swallows Miller time swallows. No they love to eat minimize. It's an epicure delight congregating at road intersections curb because MAS that had sought shelter in car. Chassis are warm by the engine in emerged while the cars are idling. Stoplight now how the heck to those. Mas Get into all of our houses. That's the question that needs an answer. Well they avoid daylight they seek shelter just before daybreak and those small teeny tiny cracks in doorways garages and cars. Well those are perfect hiding spots at night. They emerge to resume their migratory flights. And of course to feed so the heck are. Mas attracted to lights at night Mas and many other flying insects while they're confused by low point sources seems to me. Moth lives its life confused because they naturally use the moon or stars to their flights kinda pulls them off track are Miller Mas harmful well. The Caterpillar stage can be a pest for crops in the spring and they can kill seedling. Plants mostly the adults. There just annoying. They're just a nuisance. Mas In the home do not lay eggs or feed on household furnishings. Food if large numbers Diane home there may be a small odor problem. Due to the fat in their bodies turning rance Oh large numbers can leave spots on walls from there well waste which is stored during pupil development. So how do you control Miller Mas in my home? Oh I've heard some of some pretty diabolical techniques to do just that you can seal obvious openings around your windows and doors reduce lighting at night and around. Your home and easy trap is to suspend a LIGHTBULB OVER. A bucket partially filled with soapy water. Always use a grounded plug of course extreme caution with any electrical device near water standard. Disclaimer applies Mas attracted to the light. Well though often fall into the water and they drown but interestingly enough mas are not very susceptible to the sides and if you have an extreme fear of Mas did you realize well. There is a term for that a medical term for that you suffer from. Motte a phobia. So how do you deal with the Miller? Moss other than just back them away. Nine seven three five three thirteen ten eight seven seven three five three thirteen ten. Drop me a text as always on our thirteen ten K. K. text line at three one nine nine six so there. You have everything you ever wanted to now. Or not as the case may be about those so annoying pesky. Miller MAS bears target game coverage lives on thirteen ten. Kfi It's always your turn to comment text to Kfi. Am Two three one nine nine six to get involved in the conversation mornings with Gail continues now. Thirteen Ten F. K Virginia governor route nor them ordering that Virginians where mass while in public indoors faces saying the measure is needed to help prevent the spread of the corona virus north. Madden news conference yesterday. Says that he is air quote ordering close air quote good luck enforcing this ordering mask be worn inside of all retail stores while using public transportation. And in any other indoor places where people congregate. He joins governors in several other states including neighboring Maryland who have issued a similar requirements. Now North Adams mask air. Quote order is indeed largely voluntary. Good luck as a judge. Andrew Napolitano was a riffing this morning with wild abandon on Fox. Good luck enforcing this and yeah you can pretty much count on the fact that this indeed will be challenged in court and shouldn't this be a decision of individuals but more to the point individual businesses whether they want you to wear a mask inside of their establishment or not and as a businesses across the country are beginning to slowly reopen. You remember the old standby no shoes. No service well. They've added a caveat to that. No shoes no shirt no mask no service and I will defend to the death of business owners right to make that decision to make that choice just as I defend your right to the death to determine whether you want to shop in that store or not once again. It's all about individual choice at this point not acting irresponsibly like we saw over Memorial Day weekend at the lake of the ozarks and I understand the concerns there because you have people traveling from other states To the lake of the ozarks very popular recreation area but people within the state as well see. And that's what Rudy has to say about that as well. You need to be responsible. I had practice that safe social distancing but unfortunately well the jury is still out when it comes to mass because in many cases it can actually exacerbate our tendency to touch our faces with wild abandon. I think stats were that before. We started wearing masks and I get it. It's the Stop the larger droplets but there is some debate as to whether they actually do and the problem is you tend to touch your face. More when wearing a mask and well. Cdc At least hasn't reverse itself on this one. Yeah but you can't contract corona virus through your eyes and your no so if you're constantly messing with your mask well once again what actual benefit does it but again this mask air quotes order. That really isn't an order. It's pretty voluntary. Expect that I expect to see that popping up more and more as you have those no mask. No service signs popping up as a businesses across the nation Continue to very slowly and cautiously reopening again northerns mask order will be largely voluntary as the governor said. He's not going to allow any criminal. Prosecutions of anyone. Not complying comes after Memorial Day weekend when the governor himself actually received criticism for not practicing social distancing or or wearing a mask spokesperson told. Cbs Six that. The governor has repeatedly encouraged wearing face coverings insider when social distancing is impossible. He was outside Yester- always outside. Okay now haven't we had the conversation and I understand okay and once again it goes to your comfort level far. Be It from me to judge not my role in this entire situation. If you're uncomfortable being outside without wearing a mask or maybe you have underlying health conditions. Maybe you have the flu. The Cold Heaven Forbid maybe you have covert nineteen. Maybe are silent carrier a super carrier. Now that's the news definition of those who are just well. Let's just say a little bit to social for all of our own good Super carriers that are spreading the virus. But if you are comfortable wearing a mask and if you're comfortable and you feel safer home then go ahead and enact your rights to do what you think is best for your own personal health. But we've already seen very clear evidence and again the CDC hasn't reversed itself on this yet but we've seen very clear evidence that the greatest concentration of corona virus of the Corona Virus Cove. Nineteen outbreak is in those highly congested areas. Urban areas such as Ground Zero in the United States New York. But it is also in buildings in which you have people that are Forest basically for lack of a better term. Let's look at the outbreaks for example at the meat processing plants. Not Built for people to practice social distancing of course many of them now that to the best of their look at the outbreaks in prisons look at the outbreaks that we've had in assisted living facilities and nursing homes bottom line lack of they'll latian causes the spread of covid nineteen. It's like the perfect storm. But if you want to wear a mask by all means do it. Six fifty eight thirteen ten KFI K. The whole sports story in northern Colorado. The state in the country tune into the whole show weekdays noon to two and thirteen ten. Kfi K yesterday as the anticipated a lawsuit as a result of the ongoing closures of churches. Yep It's happened. 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B2B Start-up Sales Lessons, Mistakes & Best Practices

OC Talk Radio

29:45 min | 2 years ago

B2B Start-up Sales Lessons, Mistakes & Best Practices

"At farmers insurance we know the sound of perfect hot air balloon landing and a lesson perfect one click for more underwritten by farmers truck fire insurance exchanges and affiliates products available in every state. Welcome back time to grab a Ford Swim out into the Sea of ideas and see if you can't catch away has sales pipeline curls up over the horizon here with the man who's been doing it longer longer than I had no idea this is the man who just celebrated his tenth anniversary and Business Ladies and gentlemen. We're talking about if we get the applause thing here very talking about Matt Hi folks I was privileged to <hes> be asked to submit a video. I did it half awake sitting up in my bedroom here and I thought later everybody else like so professional. Socal had much whittier things I say boy. I I WANNA do over well now. I I really appreciate you do this for those last Saturday the are ten year enrichment business it was the first day officially officially quit my job and had my first Business Day as marketing and it was exciting terrifying and I can confer later. It's still versions exciting terrifying. Yeah my my assistant <hes> migraine assistant Sheena. She's surprised me with she basically stench of people that we work with people they were associated with partners in friends of the business over years to deal short videos. <hes> compiling university was as you know I mean you well no falling in love. I I'm not a big self promoter very uncomfortable time sitting room with their team in watching those videos but it was and you had your mom and you had your sister. You're all these people part actually but we hold on publish this online. The publicly on purpose is also from their video that my wife did and she has three kids behind her and our kids are five I seventy nine and so there you know they're young kids like they are legally poking each other and everything the video by by like she's saying something in the kids are sitting there still and almost the exact take time seven or eight seconds in they all start wiggling at the same time and they've got their different things they're doing and I had to go back and watch it again. They're actually what that said. We were all just and I love I. I saw the same thing and I love the part where as she's giving you this heartfelt heartfelt. Hey congratulations honey. She's slapping. One of the kids like stop it. All the mom could do those two sincere and scary at the same time here. eboni youngest was literally buddy her hi honey. We're proud of you. Stop that. Sometimes you don't WanNa we'll start the program quality football. We will not be one one of our one of our guests who is in Ohio State Law amounts that we wanted to revisit this past week. Call police the most painful Michigan Memory. I have as a U. OF M. Grad here. Oh my goodness for sure not going to do that said we talked about headbutting five year old but anyway for those of you still listen. Thank you for joining sales nightline radio. We are here every week. Lie Eleven Thirty Pacific to Thirty Eastern. Thank you so much for those of you. Joining us live on the phone media radio network live from work for the listening to the podcast. Thank you so much of subscribing you can find us wherever find caster available on Youtube on a Google play store style stitcher and others and for those of you that are listening to you on us from the ondemand it. It's just like one radio past president. Future episode is available sales pipeline radio DOT com every week featuring some of the best and brightest minds the B. Two B. Sales Marketing. Today is absolutely no different. I really excited to have Jillian usage joining us today. <hes> have a serial entrepreneur. She is co-founder of Mas that you do anything religious militant to S._E._O.. Search engine management you know mayes his become a startup whisper sought after speaker and counsel for companies all over the World Jillian. I believe taking some time to join us today. I'm delighted to do so and I enjoyed hearing the story of having family <hes> in all kinds of an opportune places or inopportune places. Certainly I know something about a family business you. You have such a little bit on that. Get Him but I think your your background but you you've been running businesses for a very long time when you spent years Kinda running outlines lasts as a as a marketing and advertising company <hes> before getting into Mas and some adventures talk a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey like. Did you know you wanted to be a business owner from the beginning are doing accidental entrepreneur out of that really get there. <hes> I make a very bad employees. I think people knew that when I was three or four <hes> I don't take direction well and I don't suffer fools easily so that doesn't make for real good middle management <hes> but I <hes> fell into entrepreneurship I guess <hes> Back Password <hes> and I did so because my husband was a Boeing employees and that's not a culture where you sing combine on you. Fail fast and fail often <hes> it's a very rigid <hes> the corporate culture and it must be an I'll share little story about why there was a very famous speech by the President of Boeing commercial to the entire <hes> commercial portion of the company at an event that celebrated one of their anniversaries. I don't know seventy fifth eightieth or something like that and he said if we aspire aspire to the same level of perfection of performance as Federal Express Ninety nine point nine seven percent perfection of delivery of our product we will kill only one million people per year go go make plans right so fail fail fast fell often not gonNA happen <hes> a rigid and militaristic society absolutely but that meant that one of us had to be you know loosey-goosey in flip around and the other one to put one foot in front of the other her and go do their thing so raised three children under my desk <hes> I was glorified unemployed <hes> but when you say bye bye on the telephone it's time for you to talk to something that's over three years old so I went to work and that's what I did. I did carry remind children in arms with me. <hes> they grew up literally under this desk. The youngest will tell you the color of the blanket. He slept on under the desk. He's still remembers <hes> and I kept those so delightful but over time they grew up they went to school Linda's. They grew so did the company. I had a small regional marketing firm. <hes> you know it was not much of anything so this was small entrepreneurship lifestyle business in the highest sense of the word literally designed to <hes> how should say. To occupy rather than to bring in a serious paycheck <hes> while somebody else did that sort of thing so <hes> for a long time that was the case in nineteen ninety four I became involved with market link international and it was the first International Commerce Center on the World Wide Web. The web was about two weeks old so I was drawn of Internet marketing because I was there for seconds before the next guy really we were so full of ourselves we scan business cards in full color and pop them on that at fresh new web but by the time we finished we had real time live translation between international traders here in Seattle where I'm located and in Beijing or anywhere else in the world and there was no babble fish there was no google translate late none of that it was live translators and I thought I was smitten. People who communicate people who get to know and understand each other you could see expression on the face you could hear the timber of the voice and understand what was being said and you could trade what an extraordinary thing we do not kill those with whom we trade only those we don't understand those that we fear fear comes from the unknown and at the same time my children were playing sonic. The hedgehog games is like that dog and Singapore and in Seattle and I thought this is the next best thing to world peace. This is what's going to make it happen. It will be a lot harder to put a gun in these young boys hands and say go kill. Are you crazy. I play games with him on Saturday night so the communication was the thing that struck me and it's still gets me up in the morning and puts me down at night. <hes> random joined the company BRANDIS my eldest son for those of you who don't know much <hes> it's ranch Michigan and he is known as the wizard of Mas <hes> and he joined the company in Nineteen ninety-seven while he was still at the University of Washington and we built consultancy and over time the consultancy altered and became much much more <hes> associated with S._E._O.. Than it was with the General Online or digital marketing and finally into tools which became known as moth story and I love the intersection of work in family the fact that you know those really weren't wasn't really sound like work by balance it sound like a release of of a work-life mixture. What's your perspective? I think about this myself a lot father of three who you know as three kids in are still in grade school and balancing and you know running a business and front to spend time we've family. <hes> you know there are you can't compartmentalize those things from what I have learned. What you have advice for you know for anybody even if they're not entrepreneurs is trying to manage a career and manage a family along the right balance between the two yes <hes> I spent a great deal of my adult life running that kind of a business only really relatively small porsche running scalable corporations <hes> and in that lifestyle business I would say the first thing is to figure figure out what you're rudder in the water is and I would say the same to a scalable corporation so for me? The rudder in the water was that I had elected to have children and if I'm going to have them I might as well tend to them right so rather than affirming them out <hes> often or a great deal that doesn't mean you never do because they should be socialized as well <hes> and that's good. Do you need time as well <hes> I would do things like rent offices close to the schools where I wanted them to attend <hes> <hes> I drove quite a way to bring my children to schools. They were public schools and we had choices about where we could bring them but I had to make the trip it but you know there was no school bus or anything so for us. It was about finding out what was optimal for the children. I had elected elected to have and then <hes> to be available to them at all times. One of the things that helped me greatly was that cell phones came along. I had one of the very first one it looked like the old phone that would hang on a wall a large rectangle but it was disembodied from the wall it sat between the front seats of the bench seat of the station Wagon <hes> and you would click the side and handle would come up that looked just like those old t telephones attached to the box and so on and you would speak so quite an extraordinary extrordinary device <hes> but the phone number is the same phone number that I have today. <hes> might children's say that my cell phone is surgically implanted into my ear and they know it. I know it and they can always reach me and to this day. It doesn't matter if I'm doing a billion billion dollar emanate deal if my children call who are now adult if they call they get through and if you don't like we don't do business together so that was my. How should I stay in the fan right? The rudder in the water is that my priority was was going to be family and when that was done my priorities could change right but having elected that then elected to be a consultant and elected not to grow the company until the point where they were often on their own. Not Everybody has that measure there are entrepreneurships opportunity and entrepreneurships of necessity and I want to be mindful to those who are listening those of you who are building entrepreneurships of necessity. My hats are off. That's much harder road to hunt wild great comments conversation so far. We've got Jillian usage. Who's The C._E._O.? Co founder of outlying ventures she also co-founded S._E._O.. MAS which most of you may know now as Mazdas it rained Jillian right now it Zeus. It seems like a slam dunk. Mas Is the system of record for search marketers worldwide. I have to imagine that when you and ran decided to start building mas it wasn't necessarily as much of a sure thing how how what went into deciding how to go from doing what you described as sort of original marketing organization into sort of cheating a product of that and what lessons you could does imply for companies thinking about similar it can I so most of the people talk about the successes and it always looks really cool that hockey stick you know he kind of putter along and then suddenly boom. Here's the deal that's the short end of the hockey. Stick that you're looking at and the rest of it is hidden if you go backwards and to the left you'll find there's a really long hockey stick that goes that way and much of it is very bent and misshapen and falls into the ground and into the mud and into things that are worse than mud and finally came up and then you've got that little hockey stick so I'm just saying it's a tougher road than people tend to talk about rand is very open and honest about this and has written a number of things including his book called lost and founder the complaint of the founder <hes> and I have the same obviously been very honest about it. There are a number of powerpoint decks people can find on slide share and so on that testament to but we've discussed it was a long difficult road <hes> at first it was simply that t- joined me as you know a marketing firm you know one of my website but he want to buy another one. We've got flash now ooh but he wanted by another website because it turns out in nineteen ninety-seven that the pages of the web show be organized by <hes> search engines and the search engines don't read flesh so we went through the whole iteration back and forth and dumping down all the games to play but in ninety-seven it became evident right. That's when kind of the major search engines started to show up and the landscape began to define itself until. It wasn't evident so <hes> beyond that so <hes> we worked through in kind of services industry rant was searching for what he would like to create in this brand new web <hes> which was as he described a universe unfettered by the laws of math often time <hes> I might extraordinarily that we got to be alive into populated at that time <hes> so that was great but then in two thousand one. Nobody wanted to buy a website for love of money so I went out to make the rainfall now I had you know three or four employees. The kids were we're off at their schools. Ranch was already and the Dalton could join the company and so on and he continued to go to school that time <hes> and <hes> I went out to make the rainfall and I heard the same thing again and again. We have no more capital expenditure. We'll see you in this over. The dotcom bust was pretty pretty tough right and I saw dozens of me going down in flames some of themselves snake oil and deserve to but some of them were honorable competitors. It was a very scary time and every now and then I would here well. I don't have capital expenditure but I have operating capital. You bring me you buckle. Give you a corner off the dollar well. I know what that is. That's commission sales online. I didn't even have the words affiliate marketing to wrap around it but I'm a quick study so I figured it out and in those days particularly there were only four wish to make money in affiliate marketing porn pills casinos and ringtones. I'm sure there were a couple of others and people who did it probably will correct me budge that was pretty much the the landscape and I thought well I COMPLA- that game it. It's not <hes> say ethical decision moral decision. You know it's a business decision. This is not a world that I occupy I am not the person has say that races in where angels fear to tread but these so this bill you know the industry's not just the business but the industries that built the web it wasn't built by Dot Gov Dot Oregon Dot e._d._U.. It was built by porn pills and casinos. You Know P._p._C. stands for something else. Since it wasn't my space I thought well now I can use the model and I can bump it up and make a rupture project and we sent out about thirty requests emails to companies where we thought they have very strong brick and mortar companies and they suck online and that's the technical term so <hes> yeah we did that and we said basically that we would you know design an author and building development market maintain this website for nothing and in the event that we bring them a dollar. That's asssociation we would take a corner off dollar and so we negotiated those deals and when that happens you have to pick your customers carefully as you porcupines mating right I have to get into that financial shorts and figure out what they were doing. Did they have good customer service policies however turn policies. Could they expand. Would they get enough capital to grow if we grew them. I mean we could grow companies six hundred eight hundred thousand times by expanding onto the web and of course there is we're as big because saucers but you had to be sure that it was the right partner we did about three or four of those one of them was disastrous at a time when I was deeply in debt already because remember we were building all these websites now for nothing but that I was paying the middle still right so now I was deeply in debt and <hes> creditors knocking at the door. It was a terribly ugly time <hes> at that point. I had to turn back one of those projects. I should have known entrusted my gut so maybe that's that's one of my hottest tips to listeners do trust you got the fact that we don't know how it works. Does not mean that it doesn't and you will know when you should not be engaging with the customer when that trickles you will know just don't and this is it was somebody who sold sold <hes> those kind of miniature cameras and so on they were spy cameras if you will and and he had all kinds of good reasons why they would be in commercial structures and you know for general security things no it was ugly and awful as you I think it was and he didn't have good practices and he was B._S._a.. Nas and everybody else and finally we just gave the whole project to him and he took it away and whether he made money with it I don't know but it was a great loss. It was many tens of thousands of dollars. You know all that had been spent to do this and we had to cut loose but it was a bazillion I wanna hear the rest of the store but we do have to take a quick break redness of our sponsors. We got a lot more. I'm so excited this like we're getting the history lesson in the evolution evolution of business either way you actually works as well as the evolution of the web we we'll be back in a couple minutes with more with Jillian. You're listening to sales pipeline radio. I hate to even intruded so interesting but I do want to remind you that it <hes> there are a methods in ideas and companies out that that can help you for example if you're tired of sending sales emails and wondering if there ever opened there's an answer you need male tag maytag as a chrome browser extension for your mail g mail that allows you to track your emails in real time you received alerts right on your desktop as soon right away as your emails are open and as a special thank you for anyone listening today to the show. We've teamed up with male tag linked to provide you guys with a special discount just use the word hines H.. E. Z. and you can get drum roll fifty percent off for life. 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IT encompasses the entire sales and marketing cycle but in quick burst with lots of specific actionable ideas strategies tactics you can put to work right away like today. The loaded table of contents helps him narrow in tackle a problem and it's something can come back to over and over over again as a reference guide why not larger free copy of the modern marketers field guide. It's free hines marketing dot com just like it sounds H._e._i.. N. Z. Marketing Dot Com all right back to matt and his fascinating guest. We need a much longer so Paul I think so I'm sitting here just in amazement I I'm just enthralled issues. Just spinning this yarn here and I'm thinking how are we going to some this up in two or three minutes here. Originally was this going to be the filibuster episode five Blind Radio but this is obsolete fascinating and one of the really appreciate about you know your story and I know running. This is what ran has done as well vaas founder and I read that recently super super good book <unk> become famous for complete transparency the process and I think anyone has run a business or tried to run. A business knows that hockey stick feeling in some people never get to that short end. That actually goes up. It's just it's a lot of <hes> chewing of blindness along the way so Paul cut you off on the story there. We do have few more before we have to work with Jillian music. She is the CO founder of Mas she is. The Co Founder C._E._O.. Outlined ventures the McGowan last year. It must be where <hes> talking newer you were talking about spiking owns. Yes <hes> so I guess the short of it is <hes> that the the hottest tip is again. Trust your gut. You know whom you should get into business and which ones you have to pass up have a rudder in the water know what's important to you in life and what you will prioritize and how that will change over time and then finally <hes> kind of the end of the story you know we <hes> did well with some of these projects and <hes> one did extremely well and you know brought us out of debt bit by bit and I began to breathe for the first time in five years and then it was time to make these websites <hes> found wound on the website on the World Wide Web right because it was ecommerce it meant that it had to be found by grandma by everybody and if not you wouldn't make any money and so I- farmed with money I didn't have again I farmed out the project act and literally weeks away from total disaster and nothing was working and none of these either companies are individuals could get that S._E._o.. Done and finally rancid. I guess I have to learn this and I said yeah because I can't hold it together anymore with shoelace and bubble gum and so he did and with money we didn't have again I got one more credit card with a few bucks in it and I sent him New Jersey to hang with his grandfather. <hes> my husband's father who is a world class mathematician and to this J at the age of ninety-one he will still say I have no idea what the application was but I was happy to explain the mathematics and what ran did was to find pieces of the algorithm that had been published by Google in order to get their patents. He began to dig into this hard slogging work that said not here's an algorithm. How do I scan the system to be number one but rather my company or my client is if you will? I don't know the University of Washington Dot E._D._U.. Right in other words something where you're not going to scan the system to be number one blackout S._E._O.. But rather you're making it commercial quintessential Whitehead S._E._O.. And that's what rand is known for today. It just meant it again. It was the customer the client they had to be in that phonebook for the next thousand two years so the business decision was made he went and he found out what was needed and then he came back and he said all right. I think of GOP this. I know what needs to be done and then those days you could move the needle Roland. Turn the dial in just a few minutes. It was a simpler algorithm to simpler time it was Thanksgiving Day and <hes> let's see two thousand six and I was pulling Turkey's out of the oven and serving both family and all of the people who worked for US everybody was hanging around and the first sales came in for one of the companies and it was shoe store dot net and at that point there was a hoop and a Holler because the east coast had finished the Turkey dinners and they began to shop so it was it's a very exciting day and we realized that we were beginning to move up in the search engines. The queries were being founded found our websites and so on and things started to move and we survived but truly by the skin of our teeth so an extraordinary story and a great deal of luck. I get that but also hard ingenuity not <hes> you know just really difficult work not just that random really bright guy and he is no question but also that he showed showed up during those very very hard years from two thousand three through two thousand six ran Broda blog called the S._e._o.. Mas Dot Org blog right and that's what created that personal reputation that also moved to the corporation operation we can create personal reputations much more quickly than we create corporate <hes> reputations so if you're doing this individually think about that. How will you do that and there is no shortcut way? It's the hard work consider that ran wrote this blog every single night with lots of research and great care and thoughtfulness right he hadn't just slapped the stuff together and telephone it in and he did it for more than two thousand and One Nights Sheherazade as if his life depended on it while I love the story of the hard work when the resilience and the challenges and I mean it's it doesn't always work everybody but certainly worked well for you guys. I now you know Paul has used some rans hands worked for PODCASTING S._E._O.. Over the years ran this you know certainly some used it to to continue to building businesses and I loved it. The majority of story you told today is about the struggled to get to a path to the beginning any of that sort hockey stick. It reminds me a little bit of <hes> Phil Nights Books Shoe Dog which is about you know the hockey stick. It's about the past to get there in a million times almost ran out of money in business partner who was fear over and just it's. That's that's the pop and the answer ever. I grant usually around the time we're going to have to let Paul on shows in the funnel yet radio network. This has been phenomenal conversation with Jillian. We're you can quit links to <hes> to her. Her website to rans book at Las Inbounder in the notes. Were also GONNA put a leak in <unk> investment. Just you're just your just the impact you. How was your children as well as inspirational to me not live what rand is done but I'm donald you posted a couple of days ago probably GONNA pronounce this wrong but she she is the Phantasmagoria Chef and doing the event? If you're in Seattle in you WANNA have great food in a very unique experience <hes> we'll put that in the link melt in the notes it's as well but we unfortunately thank you so much for for your time for your energy for your stories appreciate it very much you can find this episode again on demand here and a couple of days on sales pipeline radio DOT COM for migrant producer Paul. This is not hard. You've been listening to sales recycling radio. You were indeed surfin long on sales pipeline radio right here in the funnel radio channel for at work listeners like you and no an ad from dad right save money on car insurance when you bundle home and auto with progressive gotta take these off right. What is this looks good wow? Where did you get this? I'm talking to you with the hair yeah. Where did you get this good stuff solid? 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Bonus: The Viral Load

Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

03:13 min | 1 year ago

Bonus: The Viral Load

"Hi It's Jennifer wait producer. We made a show last weekend with Paula. Mas and Luke all joining us from around the country and we had a little bit of that show leftover that we wanted to share with you rhino panel. It is time for the game that we call the viral load. Want Corona Virus News. We've got you covered panel. We're going to throw the latest Corona Virus News Rapid Fire to fall style. Get it right. You get a roll of toilet paper you ready to the plane. Yeah Mas Yeah I mas true or false during the debate on Sunday Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden each pledged to fight corona virus true. No it's false. Bringing accidentally called Bulla and Biden accidentally called. It's ours come on. It's true policy. Were false the terrorist organization. Isis urged its members not to do terror in Europe to avoid contracting corona virus. True yes luke. To emergency operators are pleading with people to stop calling nine one one when they run out of toilet paper true. Yes Mas true or false. The Financial Times reported that the pandemic has prompted a spike in philanthropic spending by the wealthy false right. The Financial Times reported that rich people are debating whether to quarantine in Manhattan or at their place in the Hamptons. Pala true or false fox. News ran a poll asking viewers to grade trump's corona virus responses. Either Great Fair or needs improvement. Yes no it's false. The poll was ranked superb. Great or very good. Wow Luke. True or false. Several videos surfaced online. The makers of emergency powder not to mix their product with vodka to make quarantine me's one hundred percent true. Yes Mas true or false. A man was caught cheating on his wife after he got corona virus while taking his mistress on a secret trip to Italy that's hilarious. Let's go true. Yes Luke true or false according to sources in the White House. Aides were just able to keep president trump from falsely tweeting. The Tom Hanks because he didn't understand what the word discharged means false. That is true. Our true or false. A woman in Washington State was disappointed when she learned the soap. She'd been washing. Your hands with wasn't antibacterial true. No it's fall. She was embarrassed. She discovered the soap was actually a block of cheese. Women have been eating cheese while drunk. We all do left the blackout and at heart. She then scrubbed her hands with it for several days before saying quote just realized. My soap wasn't working because it's literally a block of cheese still more effective than washing with Tom's of Maine Laugh. Now but what if in six months? She's the only person left who doesn't have corona virus that cheese could have saved us all and that is this week's viral go outside now call name. Just stay inside.

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Babbage: Life on Mars?

The Economist: Babbage

32:41 min | 11 months ago

Babbage: Life on Mars?

"The. Two spacecraft took off. MAS last week. And on July thirtieth the launch window opens for third. Says perseverance rival. Three nations sat out on three separate missions. All looking to shed light on a question that astronomers have been asking for centuries. Is there life on Mars? Hello, and welcome to baggage from economists radio a weekly podcast on technology and science. I'm Alan Chart Economists Science correspondent. And coming up on today's show. Why scientists so obsessed with MAS. Will the next generation admissions find signs of life on the Red Planet? And if that is like. How to explore as make sure its treated with respect. For centuries astronomers have looked to the skies curious about the celestial objects hanging above. One object is particularly captivated. Their tension is all closest planetary neighbor mas a nation of the world modernized. Pushing. Against the unknown. Super Race on the Red Planet. I can't think of anything more exciting than going out there and being among the stars. Becoming a multi species. Single Planet, species. For the ancient Romans, Mars was their God of war today the planet named after him is where certain tech billionaires plan to relocate one day. It's fair to say that the fascination with the red planet has endured the ages. Philosophers have been watching the planet for thousands of years and in the second half of the twentieth century the start of the space age astronomers astronomers started sending probes canals on Mars started kind of the controversy of does life exist on the planet Mars Emily Drubbing moulder is an astronomer at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. London? The first time these canals were actually seen was back in the eighteen hundreds and Italian astronomer called Giovanni chaparrals. We looked at Mars through telescopes and saw that there looked like almost like there were these black lines stretching across the surface of the planet Mars and so originally he described these kind of darker features as the Italian where can Nali. The relation of the Work Nali it can mean a channel or how the differences between these two words is very subtle but a channel is a natural feature on the surface of planets and a canal is engineered. So several scientists at the time in the late eighteen hundreds thought that there could be intelligent beings on Mars, building canals, and actually that might be a way that these beings transport water across the surface of the planet. So from the polar ice caps that melts in a Martian summer, and then that would transport water across the planet through these canals but then in the early missions from. NASA. So the Mariner missions dispelled this myth. Fourteen now about to face its most momentous challenge where encounter the Panama's. Actually. The early missions that went to Mars it found thoughts Mars was very different than early ideas of it. So not only is there kind of not any water that can be found on the surface of Mars in the form of lakes or rivers or anything like that but Mars seems to be almost like a cold desert. Do. Close Up of another planet? Light and dark markings can be seen on marred. In Nineteen Sixty Five Nasr's Marta full whizzed past mas at the height of us Soviet tensions and the dawn of the space race with to split. Knicks orbiting the earth simultaneously the whole world began to speak about the triumph of Soviet, science I believe that this nation should commit itself. To achieving the goal before this decade is out of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Europe. The Mariner missions and also the early Soviet Union missions. Mars. Two three with they were designed to do was to either fly by or orbit the planets and in those fly bys and orbit scientists a better understanding of kind of how the surface changes depending upon where you are on Mars. So in those missions, they found things like riverbeds, craters, extinct volcanoes like the Volcano Olympus Mons, which is actually the largest volcano in our. Solar System. It's three times higher than Mount Everest they also found canyons and evidence wind and water erosion. So there may have been water in the past on Mars, and also they looked at weather fronts fog on Mars and things like that. But lessons from fly-bys orbiting probes are limited to find out more. The superpowers on Earth wanted to land on Mars, Earth shrink smaller and smaller as the to Vikings head toward their Martian rendezvous. Vikings one to were the first spacecraft that successfully landed on the planet. Vikings one and two were launched by NASA in August nineteen, seventy five, they were identical spacecraft. Land in different places on Mars and the places for chosen because they had evidence of water in the past on Mars, and so one location was the golden plane and Viking to. Tokyo plane. So essentially, in those missions, they were looking for evidence of current life on Mars and some of the experiments did seem to indicate that there might be life on Mars essentially, the landers mixed soil with other materials like nutrients and water, and then waited to see if there was a change in that material and win there was evidence of a change that could indicate that there's life, but it could also just mean there's other chemical means of producing that change. So that's why it's inconclusive that those missions showed there was current life on Mars. Let me you by the way that we're looking primarily for micro organisms? it would be rather fruitless of us for to look for horses on Mars. It was after the Viking missions really that there was a change in focus and so instead of trying to understand if there was current life on Mars, there was a focus to understanding if there was past life on Mars and looking at past evidence of liquid water existing on Mars. So with the spirit and Opportunity Rovers, they were looking for evidence of past water and evidence of past life is well in January two thousand and four two robot geologists named spirit and opportunity landed on opposite sides of Mars. With, these two rovers, they did image and study some pretty amazing things on the surface of the planet. So there were the first rovers to look at things like dust devils and dust storms on the surface of the planet, and actually the two rovers found evidence of hot water on Mars but hot water existing in the past and they found that because they found deposits of Silica which is. The main ingredient for window glass, and so it was then thought that the silica forms around hot springs near volcanoes similar to how Silica would form on earth and its in these conditions that you find microbes or micro organisms that can live in these environments, and so there's a possibility that life did exist on Mars in the past around these hot springs but NASA was determined to find out more. At is good. In twenty eleven, it launched curiosity largest and most capable rover ever sent to Mars. Creole. It's been going for the past eight years so far. It's also traveled about twenty kilometers curiosity landed in gale crater. It is potentially a dry lake fence. What curiosity was looking for in terms of life is it wanted to look for the environmental conditions for life. So again, where microbes could exist, it wanted to better understand how liquid water would have changed the environment of Mars in the past, and also it wanted to study the habitability of Mars so that if we do send humans to the planet Mars, how would that impact them really and so some? Of the things that curiosity is found, it's found the chemicals that are needed for life on the planet, and so it sounds chemicals like water carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, and things like that. It's also found stats, lakes and rivers existed on Mars for one million years or longer. So that's more than enough time for life to exist on the planet's it's also detected changes in Mars's atmosphere. So there's a change in me thing in the atmosphere me think can actually be produced by life, and so this change in meeting could potentially be produced by life on the planet. Curiosity is still trembling around gale crater on Mars everyday. It uncovers more about our neighboring planets. But early next year, it will no longer be the only rover operating on the surface of Mars. It's been a busy few months for MAS explorers. While, most of the world has been locked down scientists and engineers from three countries have been preparing to lift off. The flurry of traffic is partly thanks to a happy alignment between Earth and Mars in their respective. Around the sun, the planets that closest approach to each other meeting a journey between the two will only take six months. This occurs every couple of years. The first spacecraft to take advantage of this alignment took off on the twentieth of July the United Arab Emirates launched a mall or. The Hope Mars mission is meant to address three Primary Science Objectives Sarah Amiri is deputy project manager the Emirates Mars mission. She's also her country's Minister of State for Advanced Sciences and one of those goals is understanding the historical evolution of Marzieh's atmosphere from one that was wet and much more dense than the atmosphere that we see today too thin and arid and dry atmosphere, and the reason for that overall understanding is just of sound what happens to planet. Had liquid water on its surface and has transformed to a point where it's can't host water in its liquid form impure format on its surface. When the Amal Orbiter Reaches Mas in February twenty, twenty one, it will study the planet's atmosphere to gain an understanding of its weather systems. We have an Ultra Violet spectrometer that's focusing on the upper atmosphere of Mars. Both the as a spirit on thermos for measurements, and the way we're able to do that is using the orbit that we have signs orbit is at its closest point, twenty, thousand kilometers from Surface Mars, at its furthest. Point forty, three thousand kilometers from the surface of Mars. At our closest we act sort of like a geostationary satellite. So we see the same location of Mars at different times of the day, and that gives us one focal point of making measurements of Mars. Once we get her furthest points, Mars is spinning faster under us. So you're collecting multiple locations of Mars. During different times of the mission we also observed for an entire Martian year so that we better understand the changes that happened throughout each season. The UAE hopes that its mission will make a contender in space exploration. Amal is time to at Mars on the nation's fiftieth anniversary, a country that's fifty years since its inception a that fifty years ago didn't have basic infrastructure of road metrics, schools of universities. and. We had to do it at a much faster rate than any other country because if you want to be in the best country in the world we started relate you need to sometimes injects fuel for change across the system several times to to create disruptive change, and this is what this mission was meant to do. There's no doubt it works well, how a mall will be a remarkable achievement getting to malls is hard. Just three days after Al Mal launched China's Chen Wen one took off. After a failed attempt twenty eleven, China's new mission consists of an orbiter. Ander. The plan is for the spacecraft into Mars orbit in. February twenty twenty. One. Lander will be deployed to the surface a few months after arrives. China's space agency has not given much away about genuine one. What they have said is that it will study the distribution of water ice on Mars. A key question to whether or not life was once possible on the planet officials have also said that the mission will make detailed surveys of the Martian surface. This is expected to last around ninety days. Has the UAE in China. Join the elite Mas Club NASA The undisputed leader in interplanetary exploration is not holding back. Perseverance is the most sophisticated mission we've ever sent to the Red Planet. Surface Laurie glaze is the director of his Planetary Science Division. We couldn't be more excited about it. Some of perseverance is May. will be an astro biology, which is the study of how life comes to be the environments that can support life and the search to see if exists anywhere else beyond earth. This is the first rover Bishen designed to seek signs of past microbial life by collecting cashing rock and soil samples that'll be returned to earth. Future missions. The rover's instruments will also look for evidence of ancient habitable environments and monitor environmental conditions which will help us better understand how to protect future human explorers. Perseverance Lund in Jesolo crater. Jezreel is host to one of the best preserved Delta's on the surface of Mars. Katy stuck wargin works in NASA's Jet Propulsion. Laboratory in. California. Deltas form when rivers enter open bodies of water and deposit rocks, sand and potentially organic. Carbon. In the layers of that delta, those layers are one of the prime astro biology targets for the perseverance mission will be searching for bio signatures, patterns, textures, or southern is that require the influence of life to form one of those by a signature could be very old rock like structures formed by layers of microbes. This dramatic light is a fossilized microbial mat. Each one of these layers represents the growth that Matt. Now, if you look at that rock, you would know for sure that it was a potential signature. But when you couple the textures as well as the chemical composition, the mineralogy and the distribution of organic carbon, you can start to build a case that rock could only have formed under the influence of life. So using that fine scale detail coupled with the geologic context, we're going to do our best to identify, collect and document the most compelling scientific cash of samples that we possibly can to address some big picture questions. Fundamental questions including was life ever present on Mars? The Perseverance Rover has twenty three cameras, seven scientific instruments to microphones and an autonomous helicopter. Some of those instruments like the Sherlock in Pixel instruments on the end of the rovers arm which provide those mapping capabilities as well as rim in the body of the rover that uses radar to study the sub surface of Mars are brand new. We've never sent them to Mars before those instruments on the end of the rivers arm that have the ability to map in very fine detail. Chemical composition mineralogy and the presence of organic carbon in a way that we've never been able to do before curiosity has the ability to detect organic carbon in it has detected organic carbon but we haven't been able to necessarily link the presence of that organic carbon and organics to particular textures or patterns that we see in the rock that we think could have been left behind by life. Also said of grinding the rocks into powder. Collecting preserved cores of rock that we can bring back to Earth and study. So I think that's really how we distinguish ourselves in advancing the search for potential signatures on the planet, Mars? Perseverance is part of an ambitious decade long plan to collect and rock samples from the surface of Mars. These will hopefully be collected by follow up missions. Sometime in the coming decade, we're really a great position right now where we have developed a fantastic partnership with European Space Agency which actually allows us to get those samples back a little bit earlier than had originally been planned right now we're working on developing. The plans for that Mars sample return mission, we're planning towards a launch around twenty twenty six, which would then bring those samples back in twenty thirty one the European Space Agency's Fetch rover could arrive as early as twenty twenty eight and we'll look for the thirty or so titanium that perseverance will lead behind on the surface of Mars once collected the chiefs will be brought back to Earth by system relay spacecraft. RETURNING NASA as samples isn't the European space, agency's most immediate Mars objected however in two thousand, sixteen, the European and Russian space agencies together launch the first part of the Mars program. The purpose of its mission was to gather potential evidence for past life on Mars. that. First mission saw the trace gas orbiter arrive at Mars. This is designed to measure the concentration of rare gases in the Martian atmosphere that might be related to life processes such as methane water vapor would nitrogen dioxides. The next stage of mass is a rover called Rosalind. Franklin. Instruments will be even more sophisticated than those unnecess- perseverance. These instruments are more capable than any. We have flown before whole. Hey Vega is the lead scientists for the exiles mission that European Space Agency we have Moma, which is by far the largest and most expensive instrument on the rover. These news is for the first time you relate to extract organic molecules. And the beauty of this Nacer deception technique is that the position of energy so fast that he doesn't have time to dissociate this perchlorate, this oxy glory molecules that are everywhere on Mars, the having complicating the measurements of curiosity. Phoenix and Viking. So we have high hopes on being able to navigate around these problems by using these new technique. Perhaps, Rosalind Franklin's most important tool. Vote will be drill that can collect samples from below the surface this. will be crucial for covering material in which any organic molecules present can be found in a good state of preservation issue with Mars is that the atmosphere is very thin. The surface atmospheric pressure is in the order of six million dollars compared to about a thousand thirteen here on earth. So uniting radiation mostly coming from the center of a galaxy penetrates through the atmosphere and slams into the surface and goes into the subsurface. So over many millions of years these. Radiation Acts like gazillion little knives slowly cutting away the functional groups of their Ganic Molecules you would like to hopefully discover. So the idea of the drill is that they do go deep enough then material between the place where you go collect the sample on the top surface would act as sheep and we've done quite a bit of modeling and and Tests in the lab and the results suggest that penetration and Yoder of one and a half meters will be amazing. So we went for two meters because it's something days technology. Kelly doable. Even though is very challenging. The is like. A Swiss watch, it's a wonder to contemplate is full of little. Make An `ISMs and shining. But, all of that will have to wait for now a combination of technical difficulties and challenges of operating in European collaboration during a global pandemic has meant that the launch of the Roseline Franken rover has been delayed until the next alignment between Earth and Mars in twenty, twenty two. Coming up. While the scientific knowledge from the next stage of Mars missions will be invaluable. The footprints of human activity on the Red Planet? Becoming ever more intrusive. If, there is a marsh ecosystem. How should scientists think about future expiration of the planet? Aside from Earth. Mas Is the most studied planet in the solar system. Its surface is swiftly becoming limited with landers and Rovers. Governments. Have spent billions getting to the red planet but that might not be the only cost. We can't undo whatever we do on. Mars especially free contaminated globally server Rukh Hina is an astrophysicist university boxwood. We should I explore those environments being as clean as we can with our instruments to try to avoid contamination since in our exploration of trying to find Martian life already through. Of, landed on our surface, one of the biggest lessons over and over again is the problem of earth contamination in our samples. There these extreme files on the earth that are nearly impossible to kill emily drawback more drag. A good example is Turkey caucus finishes. It's a bacteria that's only ever been found on two places on the earth in clean rooms that are used to build spacecraft, and so to put that into perspective, these clean rooms are designed to have minimal amounts of outside contaminants like dust and microbes the air. Is filtered in the clean rooms, the surfaces are cleaned with alcohol and hydrogen peroxide items are heated to high temperatures in order to kill potential bacteria on surfaces and people actually work in these environments in protective suits. However, this particular microbe is still found in these environments that includes environments that built NASA's Curiosity Rover. So it's possible that we've already sent some of these extreme files to Mars and so. It's something that we really need to keep in mind for the future if we do find life on Mars as well we need to possibly consider that actually that life didn't form on the planet Mars that we accidentally brought it over when we sent the spacecraft out to the planet if life for Math microbes or otherwise ends up on Mars, it could have grave consequences. It's very clear that Mars. Doesn't have kangaroos jumping around on its surface doesn't have the same level of biosphere that that Earth does and so if life exists on Mars, which it may or it may have in the past and we find fossilized evidence of past life, it's likely to exist in small Nicholas maybe in the subsurface where it's a bit warmer and there's liquid water in those types environments, but because earthlife is so. Adaptable already to our own planet. It could be that earthlife takes over those environmental niches. So to speak because it has had more time to evolve in different ways here, but there is a much bigger ethical issue at stake too I. Think the real risk is that we sort of destroy a pristine environment when we think of ethics in life, on earth, we tend to think of only animals and plants, but most of earth's biomass microbial life and we really don't care about microbial life in a moral sense on earth you kill millions of microbes when you brush your teeth for example, and we don't really think about Atta's as being an atrocity. But microbial life on another planet. Especially, if that is the only type of life I, that life has a higher moral status because of its rarity so. You know should we leave Mars the Martians? If we do find my even my Kirby life life there these are ethical considerations that I think we need to grapple with as a planet before embarking on any colonization submissions and get wider input voices from all of humanity. Before any efforts to colonize Mars begin hopefully, the samples collected by perseverance will be brought back to Earth. If they do contain traces of. Martian life. What are the chances that these could harm earthlife US contaminating Myers is probably more an issue than Martian life contaminating earth and and there are several reasons for this one is we can have a clean lab kind of isolated system set up here as well as the biochemistry if it is truly different life probably interact with our biochemistry very well so I think those risks while they are present and we should absolutely take precautions by having high quality sealed lab environments to study this for both reasons you know so that we don't accidentally contaminate the sample with our own life as well is avoiding. There's a problem with planets. There's no enforceable laws let alone offices to enforce them. There's a diversity opinions within scientists of how to approach it. I do think that because of that diversity opinions, it's worth not rushing. We do have time. There's no reason to go tomorrow Mars. In as humans in twenty thirty s that one equally be served by just going several decades or even one hundred years later, and so I think taking the time such that we act mindfully is one thing that I feel like you're echoed in a lot of scientific circles. But then of course you know it's it's hard to necessarily stop an individual country or a private space enterprise from from not doing that. So what's the solution? How can these international compensations begin even with other missions? So for example, in the Cassini mission that CINTAS spacecraft all the way out to Saturn there was the worry that the Cassini spacecraft would accidentally seed life on some of Saturn's moons. So these moon environments. Liquid water who their surfaces, and so there is a possibility that there is life on these news. So when Cassini was running out of fuel, the decision was made to actually drive Cassini in sue the planet Saturn instead of risk the possibility that Cassini spacecraft would actually collide with one of Saturn's moons and risk having any of that life contaminated by that spacecraft. This begs the question if we can decide how to protect the planets should we even be exploring them at all? I think it's one of the most fundamental questions to humanity. Are we alone? So I do think we should explore it carefully trying to mitigate any potential damage that we cause to the best of our ability, and if we find evidence of life to be very cautious in how we go about exploring that life exoplanet life does also hold a different moral weight but. I would say that it's in my opinion, it's worth finding out if there's life out there and the solar system is one of the best places to look. However, we should do that with caution and care and try to not in our bumbling efforts you know of our infancy and space exploration destroy something without really cautiously approaching that with all the care we can. I. In, the next decade will likely to find an answer to the age old question of whether or not there is or ever has been life on Mars. If the evidence suggests not many people will likely be disappointed but it almost certainly white be the end of the story for the search for life beyond earth. There's a lot of good places to look for life in the universe. So we could look in the outer solar system on Europa. enceladus these icy moons. Titan is a very interesting place to look for life because titans. Doesn't have liquid water but has liquid ethin- and methane, and that life would be totally different from ours. So I think that's an fascinating place to look. There's a potential for life on Venus in the upper atmosphere where temperatures and pressures are more conducive to earth though it's hard to see where the chemistry would happen there but people have certainly proposed that. So I think. Many places within our solar system to look and the solar system provides a unique opportunity because could actually look with a microscope. So to speak and see the microbes dealing around or see the fossilized evidence of past life. Finding life elsewhere in the solar system whatever form it may be in would be transformative for humanity. Auspey, she's pundit this question for hundreds of years and the answers could be on the horizon. We are in extraordinary times right now with the corona virus pandemic and yet we have in fact persevered. Let's go find out if there was life on Mars. And we'll be sure to take you on badge. OFF THANKS TO EMILY DRAWBACK WANDER SARAH. Our Miri Katie Stack Morgan. Laurie glaze. Hey, Vaco and Sarah Bruckheimer. 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"Thank you for listening to this podcast wine production now available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. You're welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at bed online get in the mix at Bet online dot ag use the Promo Code. podcast one for your new welcome bonus that online your online sportsbook experts, and the exclusive partner of podcast one sports net. Is Bad guy. SNOTTY. The feeds. This music. comes. What's happening? Guys happy, Wednesday and thank you for joining and other special episode of you're welcome Oh. What a weekend! We had an amazing submission underground that took place on Sunday, so not only was this loaded with talent. And not only was this loaded with a surprises it was stacked with anticipation all leading to the main event and the main event was just that this was a very special match of the night. So quick back story on it, but you've got Craig Jones. The most popular by far Nogi grappler alive. And the Best Nogi grappler live so who is going to challenge Craig well. We didn't know the answer to that because when you're dealing with Craig Jones. You're dealing with a rule set as vicious submission grappling where you're only encouraged to do one of three things. Break arm, break a leg or strangle your opponent. It is no nicer of a rule set. The what I just stated for you right there so when you're dealing with that and you're dealing with the most dangerous guy added in Craig. You gotTA bring in somebody. The can protect themselves. You can't just allow people to end up. Getting stretchered out and go to the emergency room. It's a very real thing so instead of just seen who wants a paycheck who wants to come forward and be on fight Pasadena's spot. We held the tournament. We know that you want crag that you believe you can be Greg and most importantly that you can defend yourself, Craig. Should you be wrong like everybody? Else's been okay? was named Mason Fowler Steps Forward K. not at the time of the store. He is this guy. Nobody knew Mason Fowler was eight weeks ago. Nobody knew what a Mason Fowler was. I could convince you say meal at a restaurant I could convince you that that's a piece of furniture in an art store. You want to know the difference. Turns out. A BAD ASS GRAPPLER! That's what it turns out Mason Fowler so. He raises his says. Put me in the tournament. Owned by the way before you think the nine spot within this tournament, you should know I've already wrestle Djibo Craig. And I should have beat him. Now. These two met up with Mason's referring to he and Craig met in the finals of the Abu Dhabi trials and that's very. That's very relevant that it was a trial because I think that's something that you can relate to. Even if it was back in your high school day if you wanted to get to the state tournament or the state playoffs you had. Had to qualify to do it if you were a college athlete. If you WANNA, move onto the postseason, you have to qualify to do it if you're a world or Olympic athlete, or even if you're not to observe the world and Olympic Games could understand the relevance of trials, so they meet up in the finals. There's a point system to the way ADC works. Mason Fowler was denied two points. Two points that should have been called per the agreed upon rules were not. This is Mason's version. So the media turns to Craig, Jones. Who Goes? Hey, you're not gonNA, believe it this guy. Mason! Valor is claiming that he should have beat you. As a matter of fact, you should've been in Abu Dhabi of which Craig went to the finals. I should mention goes to the medal match. You shouldn't have been there. You should have even been in the tournament. Mason shut up. That's what we're hearing. Craig said he's telling the truth. I don't know if there's ever been more honest guy in the history of sport than Craig Jones in that moment. He said Mason is telling the truth. They shorted them two points. I have the foggiest idea why I understand the rules. The same as he does, he should've had two points would have changed. The complexion of our competition, okay? So Mason goes through the tournament, which means he's got to go against three guys in one night owned by the way he's gotTa beat three guys one nine. Oh, by the way he happened to tap all three guys all in one night. It's Mason versus Craig. Jones first ever submission ground championship boom. We found the right to guys so. As you move forward, it's very hard to believe regardless of the story back story or subsequent tournament that anybody can get the jump on crank. What I tell you. This guy is the best if you haven't been following their. You don't know who Craig Jones. I don't have another way to say when I say he's the best I don't mean, he's one of the best. He's by Golly. He's really good. When I tell you, he is the best I'm talking. He's the best alive. Six, billion men on this planet, none of them better at this than Craig. So Craig goes out there with Mason and Craig. Kinda showed what I just said I mean in all fairness he did Craig was looking for some positions. Amazing had a different strategy. It a very clear strategy that's well within the rules. And he mason was well within his right to evoke the strategy, so he makes it out a what we call regulation. Now in regulation, anything goes as long as it's not a strike, you cannot elbow knee puncher. Kick anything else you can think of goes again. You're only occurs to do three things breaking our break a leg strangling neck. It's vicious. It's as vicious making I. Don't take any pride in that and write these rules I'm just shared for. If you don't follow it very closely, it's. It's a contact sport at the highest level so. They make it out of the regulation. They go into overtime. What overtime is going to look like? There's two things at play. If. You can submit your opponent great. But if you can't submit him and he can't submit you. Ultimately, it will defer. To who ever in the offensive position maintained that APAS office a position longer so if you're on defense segment from that perspective, trying to not be submitted, but you're also trying to escape. That's it. That's all you need to know about overtime. If you're on defense, don't tap get out quickly great. So Craig attacks I and Craig stays there all day in a little bit longer I mean. He racks up so damn much time this. This one's all but done at this point. It's it's rudimentary. Going GonNa leave with the championship. Craig stays undefeated next. Could thing. That's not the way the sport works. Good thing we don't just stop and go. Okay, we get it. There's a reason you let the boys hold the match. So. Mason gets his turn on top. and Craig's having a hard time getting out, and all that writing time that Craig just accumulated is starting to go the opposite way, and Mason puts on what is called a body triangle. Now, that isn't manipulation done. It would be what's known as a figure for lock. So you're doing it with your legs, but you're doing it around the waist hips and body of your opponent very tight, but very relevant to the story. That's what he's doing with the lower half of his body. The upper half is he's trying to strangle Craig Jones. Craig now has the defend the choke, but it's going to be very hard for Craig to go to the second option, which is to escape, he's trapped. He's trapped very much so within the power to powerful parts of a guy's body. Who's using both at the same time for this figure for body lock okay. So Mason's first option is to look for the rear naked choke. You guys might know what as a sleeper hold. He can't find it. Craig's definitive, so mason comes into option B. which is called the net crank where instead of getting under the Chin where you would need to be the choke, you come over the Chin and you begin to crank and turn the head also relevant to the story because what ends up happening is Craig. lets out an audible sound. The referee. Stops the match calls that a surrender. Now allow me to explain these three things are gonNA be conduction. Okay in conjunction, look at the three things that I've stated for you body triangle. Hold, that thought net crank hold that thought audible, sound hold that thought. Let me tie these dots together. The rules are very clear, and this would carry over to mixed martial arts as well if a person is on defense I mean they're in trouble in some fashion. And they speak or make a sound of any kind. The matches over now the reason I point that out sound or noise of any kind it is because unlike the practice room. You do not have to say tap. You do not have to say stop. You don't have to say uncle. You'd have to say. Surrounding I have to say I quit if you say anything. The referee is to interpret that very clearly per the rules as a surrender. Relevance, being there was a few guys who course of time there were getting pounded on or getting tapped out, then instead of saying tap or stop, they would cry out in pain as a way of toughing through. Something along these lines a way of topping out and not having to Tatton. Done we're done. That's a commission rule to the ABC now I tie that over to grappling because what happened within the body triangle. Is that Craig Craig said look that thing was so tight that it squeezed the air through my lungs, and a sound came out of my mouth. That is what happened. It was just a sound. It. was exactly the what Craig. Described in all fairness. In all it was as though somebody squeezed all the air out of you, and you just want. There was there was a sound and I don't know that that would ever even be picked up if we were not in this time that we're enough would have had a crowd in an audience like a typical Craig Jones sold out event. I don't think you would hurt it. I don't know that is relevant to my story. As much as I'm just digressing to making conversation with you, but in this case the referee did hear it and the referee stopped it. took all sorts of criticism after the fact, and the referee makes himself very accessible, Dave Hagen very accessible, because he always wants happy, sad indifferent he but he wants guys to have knowledge for next time. Let me. Tell you what I saw. Let me tell you why it was called this way. Like it or not like make sure you understand the rules, and then you can plan your own strategy for next time, but here's what happens to the red makes himself very accessible. And I, overheard the referee talking, and he was talking to a number of athletes. mccray was one of them. He's a Craig I. Trust You I, know you I. Know Your skills. I trust you like anybody here. If you're a choke and I think it's bad I'm GonNa refer to your judgment. That means if you go asleep, I'm going to allow you at this level I'm not gonNA decide. You're in trouble, but when it comes to a net crank where your neck can be broken I. Am GonNa Decide? You made a sound? I stopped the fight to protect your world done here. That is very hard to argue against. That is what the referee saw like it or not or why? The sound came because of the there was a sound. He was in a catch. That's what happened, okay. And you can decide. You don't like any of that. That's okay this isn't me. I'm telling the story. Your witness your honor. Now there's the other side of it, so Craig Craig is the ultimate gentleman. Even if it's an act, even inside, he's red hot. He'll never show this he couldn't. He couldn't be a more presentable person, but he's also a competitor and I looked that one's going to bother him. He knew he was in a good spot. He was up on on time that was changing, but it hasn't changed that he was still up. He just needed to clear this position. He gets his check. He gets his belt. He goes on the next one. It's just one of those situations, so mason, pulling it off, and a lot of people were trying to take away from Mason's glorious moment, and that was very unfair to mason than try to do anything. Mason put a lock on while having a body triangle waiting for the referee to make a call got up and went home, and that's the way it goes. That's what happened to Mason the first time when he was given points at ADC. I mean in all fairness. That's just what happened goes away some. Go against you some Shoulda. Shoulda gone your way. But the media believes it should have gone against you, but the whole thing just turns into a mess. So what do you do? They are now one of peace. What do you do? It would seem as though you rematch. I got it. Do you do an immediate rematch as mason going to go on his red? We have a tournament to see who takes on Mason. I mean there's there's a number of options here. There's a number of ways to rectify this, but to claim foul ball. Because you're Craig Fan. I think it's a stretch and I don't think the Craig's when that happened to over the course of the weekend. Mazda goes out. Does awesome by the way Jorge. MAS brought looked awesome to Basel has a technique. I can't figure this damn thing out. He throws a rear kick. And it's a kick. He definitely hits you with his Shan, but he's also hits you with his knee relevance being he's fairly close like. If this was your toes or your foot, you could see where there's some range. He doesn't have a lot of range because his knee even hits you in the body. But he's able to keep his head so far away that he's completely protected. The port was to throw on right down the middle. It would miss. It's this incredible technique that there's kick. Boxers don't know how to do this. Moslem comes out. He unleashes that second contact of that bone I kicks. Who's been in the leg second? He throws his kick I'm sitting here. Time hits them right in the body. WHO's been comes back goes to the fire gets to the gets his hands on MAS drama. This thing's a war, and it wasn't an overly competitive war, and that okay, another rounds down around for WHO's been okay. Let's go do five more minutes. Okay, another one for WHO's been okay. Let's go do five more minutes another one for been but within. Within all of those victories, there's a struggle. I mean these guys are fighting, and it wasn't the kind of fight that WHO's been thought or hoped it would be. It was not a matter of go. Take Mazda down and keep him there. Moslo was very hard to take down, offered a tremendous amount of resistance, but also did not stay on the bottom. It wasn't the kind of fight that anybody thought we were going to get, but they fought all the same. Who's been did what he needed to do all the same. In, a lot of what he did. When he found out how hard it was to take Georgetown was do a little of in-between. Okay, I can't take him down, but I don't necessarily want to stand toe to toe with him. Let him let me push them in the fence. And when he does that, he was able to slow Georgetown. He was able to gain favor with the judges right. Right whoever's back is against the fence, even though it's very similar position, but if your back is on the fence, you're losing in the eyes of the judges, and then, and then who's able to score from there. And there was some foot stomps involved. There was some needs to the thighs involve. There was some body shots. He was doing a good job, annoying Mazda all with some shoulder strikes. Did a great job. Did a great job. I know that was not his plan. I know that wasn't a strategy. It wasn't even he was going to have to do. He had to adapt on the fly instead of giving them credit for that. So! People were coming out after the fight and attempting to say that those foot stops are a bunch of crap and holding the guy on the fence. This garbage instead of just tipping your hat to WHO's been at saint great job. You just beat the BNF great job. Hard stop if you rewound the tape. The same thing happened to Moss for all his previous fight, he gets the jump on Nate Diaz, but it was a doctor stoppage after the completion of fifteen minutes of fighting. which is a sizable time to be fighting by the way mean? Most fights are scheduled for fifteen minutes. They do all fifteen minutes and people didn't want to give Mas, but all the credit that he deserved a championship his glorious moment, his fifteen minutes of the spotlight. They didn't want to give him that it wasn't because he didn't deserve. It is because they like nate better. So now that everybody jumped on the MAS but all ship. They don't want to give Uis men the credit because they like Mas Vidal better. I would only share for you. There seems to be a theme seems all equal out the same way that the Mazda didn't get his shine the night of nate. WHO's getting his shine over Moslem? It's just one of these weird and baffling things, and I pointed out because I do feel like that's happening to Mason right now. Mason went out. Follow the rules. Listen to the instructions that everything. He was supposed to do and raise his hand at the end of the night. What the hell did he do wrong. We were all adjusting to new situations every day, and whether you're working from home, or you're working on your fitness. You want what you're listening to to be what you're listening to not what your roommates or your neighbors are listening to. 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That was the first one back in these the pandemic and everything first sporting event back, but that did just north of seven, hundred thousand, and that was a grand slam. The world of pay per view is so much nearly nonexistent in all fares nearly non-existent. You'll see Tyson fury pop up. You'll see floyd when he comes back going pay per view. You'll have a hard time telling me other things that are I mean even the wwe enlarge part though you could find did uses a streaming service. And there used to be concerts on pay per view, there should be monster truck shows pay per view was a real thing, and it's really not anymore, which is relevant to the store. Because all the numbers greatly change, you can do seven hundred. If you could do five hundred my goodness, they would roll out the red carpet for you. Any distributing partner would roll out the red carpet. If you could just average five hundred thousand, you could come at two hundred one night and six one night. You even get near a half just to put a perspective so to do a one point three. That's a record that hasn't been touched in a period of time. I be largely because models change. That's a record that will not be touched in a period of time. Dana comes out and credits the whole thing the Mas Vidal says George Mazowsze Massive Star I credit him fully with the changing of the projections. We had to the numbers that we now see now. That's a huge compliment, and it seems as though no matter how many times you learn this lesson. WHO's going to get paid? The Guy's GonNa? Get paid. The brings in the money. Real obvious same all of you, no matter what professional enter what line of work you're in. You're going to get a piece of what you bring in, and you will be surrounded by co workers who make the argument of. We're doing the same thing. And while that might sound rhetorically eloquent as you say it, it doesn't make any kind of financial sense. That is not sustainability. Somebody is going to set the table and everybody else is gonNA. Eat at and this industry in. That's very obvious. George bothell used to have one of the seats at the table. Now he sits at the head of the table. He pays everybody else back. That's the way it works. When George is coming up in one of those guys if he can get attached to whoever the main event was, and that made a can bring in house. Okay great everybody gets to eat tonight. That's how it works, George. Never has to pay that guy back once. He has come up uppance. He just sits at the head of the table and he feeds everybody else. At some point, those guys will sit at the head of the I. Mean That's how it works. and. That's where that whole atmosphere from, but when you do, look at George being able to draw on, you look Dana set. This guy is a massive star. That's a huge deal. And before you try to figure out how you become a massive star before you try to lay out your own plan, your own steps how you're going to market your career and brand yourself separate yourself from the pack before you do that, please understand. What Dana said. Because it's not the same statement that you've heard something close to your ears. We'll be playing tricks on you. He said Jorge Mas massive. Star I credit this pay per view to him that significantly in meaningfully different. Than if you hear a different way and say, this was a massive fight. And this fight. Is What we credit all of the numbers to. In the history of combat, there has been to athletes that can draw by. Themselves doesn't matter who they're taking on Mike Tyson an Oscar de la Hoya. Now, I believe that that statement would need emended. I believe at this point. You need to include Floyd Mayweather in that I believe at this point. You need to include conor. McGregor in that. K.. But Teddy, Atlas. Max Kellerman the two largest voices and the history of boxing both say it was Tyson Dale Away, but I think you still understand the point, even if you need to amend it, so endangered comes out and says George Mazda all is a huge store Jorge Mas, but all it gets all the credit for this. That's a very big deal. Because now you have something that you can monetize promoter that you do not have very many times in your career. You have our guy. You know hard. It is to make a fight I mean. Have you guys ever thought about that? You'll read about it all the headaches. Everybody has to go through. I mean all of the absolute headaches to get people together. You GotTa do that Eleven Times Program oh by the way this. We're going to have three cards in one week. So imagine all of the things that you have to go just to get that stuff done. Before you bring in the cameras. Get venue, pop the popcorn. Sell the Beer I. Mean it just to get that step done. So now imagine that you have a guy who it doesn't matter who is fighting. Just imagine if you had that as a promoter. It's a very very rare thing. Guys, I swear to goodness to you I. Don't say this with any tongue in cheek. I ever got the George Mas lost. That fight, just I swear to you I have to keep her. Oh, that's right. That's right. He lost that fight. It was one of those things that it's one of those rare presences in Georgia's carried himself in a certain demeanor. But everything that he does. That's on camera is a reflection of the memory that you're going to as a takeaway everything he does. Connor it gets the same credit. Connor will not leave the room without looking cool. Whether. He's dressed down, but he he's an thousand dollar tracksuit. That looks fantastic that you'd never seen anybody elsewhere in his hair will be done. That beard will be intact if he's going on stage and he's in. He's dialed out and one of his suits i. mean there's just a real thing every time that you're seeing. Moskva now working different kind of look, he grew. The hairy grew the beard. Okay, Great. That's might sound simple to you, but he still re invented himself. Vince McMahon has a theory that every character must be reinvented at least slightly there must. There must be a change every twelve months. You must change doesn't matter. It's all Cogan of it's Stone Cold Steve Austin? The undertaker you. Little Change. You've even seen that with the name Brock Luster just by example monsters don't talk. It's one of the reasons that brock is not given a a lot of airtime with a microphone in a business that is largely based around microphone and airtime. But over a period of time. They bring in his advocate Paul aiming comes. I'm just offering for it, but there there's a little twist. There's just a little tiny tweak. You don't have to be Oh, one heart and one day you're in the foundation then one day you're the blue. Blazer doesn't have to be that extreme. But it might have to be so when I just offer for you. A small twee George Muslims selling tickets because he grew her grew beer. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Probably sounds pretty ridiculous. But yes, that is a piece of the puzzle. George Boswell does not do interviews. It doesn't matter if it's an skype or he's out walking around to find himself a snack unless he's wearing for sake road that nobody else I. don't even know where he gets those damn. Robes! I wouldn't even know where to go to buy for Saatchi. Road of you challenged me right now I. Suppose I'd have to the Internet. I'm out here in Oregon. We don't have for Sachi store. Could you share that with you, so there's something different there. How simple would you like that to be in your life? If your entire financial situation could change, you could take all the courses you want. You can send it on. The seminars could pay the money. You could read the books, or you could watch your hair and put on a robe. How would you? How would you like if that was the key to success in some industries it is. And some guys look ridiculous in a robe, and they look ridiculous with the longer hair for some guys. They can pull it off and I don't suggest for you. This is the key to Mazda success, but I'm pointing to you. There are things that George Moslo specifically can do. That make you stop what you're doing. Tune in. When I. See Mas Vidal when I see o'malley when I see McGregor. I. Don't know what's going on. I'm flipping through My TV or I'm surfing the I. Don't know what's going, but I'll stop what I'm doing. Because something tells me something is about to happen I don't know what's happening here but something. Is Happening. This a very rare skill I don't know the one that you could just go out and duplicate, but I do think with some planning some studying some strategy. You could do that. George Mosleh had a very clear strategy he did. You guys don't see this. I talked to Mas about three years ago. He'd come out. I'm in Oregon. He came up to Oregon State with Koby actually before the the dust up between them. They room together down there. They were catching workouts with the colleges nonstop, and I had Mazda on the phone. He said man he. Can I come onto your podcast? He I'm sick, not getting my word out there. I WANNA come on. I want to get my message out there. And Mazda pop on, and he did good numbers. I talked to Mazaroli. It almost broke. The Internet owned by the way should I mentioned he was the exact same guy I talked to three years ago. Nothing to gone to his head. He wasn't an arrogant prick. You didn't change his stick. And so many people think that you have to talk trash. That's kind of the have to. Moslem doesn't talk trash. I would make that same argument for you about the Diaz brothers. They talk truth. There's something very real about it, but there's no pretend. Is that a marketing technique for them. Most certainly was I only offer for you. The distinction that you do not have to be a trash talker. I've heard fighters come in complaining and go. Why can't make any money because I don't want to talk trash? You don't have to talk trash guys don't. Some guys don't talk trash, but they say something. That's interesting. And you can argue be as mad as you want at the reality that you're going to be paid for what you bring in. That seems to really upset people as opposed to the punches and kicks. There seems to be something that is adverse to sportsmanship and what you were told guys. This is not little league. Not Everybody gets a ribbon at the end of the season. Not Everybody is guaranteed playing time. This is cutthroat professional sport. In a business known as entertainment. This is not the sports industry. This is the entertainment industry. The sooner you can allow that in look. The ultimate spot could be if you WANNA touch the ultimate I. Want to be the Champion I. WanNa be the undefeated shape. I WANNA be. Those are wonderful goals by the way I don't WanNa take those for bills are awesome goals, but the ultimate place you can be in. is where the outcome of your match no longer matters. It's a rare spot. It's short spot in all fairness. No matter how you good at it. You can only stay there so long still American success still matters, but. I don't. I. Don't joke with you when I tell you I hear forgot that George Mazda lost that fight. All I remember. Is the way he started it that he came right out against the baddest dude in the world and kicked him three times before he was ever touched once. I remember his face I? Remember after the second when he laughed and said something I remember sitting him going. You're laughing. You're in the desert in the middle of a world title fight on TV and you're able to compose yourself enough to latch. Shouldn't you be exhausted? But there was something about. He came to the post fight press conference. He didn't his head one bit. He says you know what I have the formula to beat. That before the whole lot in this fight giving him again I'll beat him up. Okay. These are the things I remember. The fight I keep forgetting that he lost the fight him. This is a very rare thing. This isn't something where we could sit George Boswell down and go. Hey, how did you do this? How did you pull off this route? How did you sell more pay per views than anybody? How did you just become the biggest star in the highest paid guy in the sport? We couldn't sit him down and ask me he doesn't know. He just out there. Beat Georgia bonds but all. He's the same guy I talked to last week that I talk to three years ago. That I met twenty years ago. He's the same guy. A A little longer hair. Prefers to fight standing up same guy I met when he was twenty. One years old, preferred to fight, standing up knew how to protect themselves on the same guy. It's the same guy that's not what it was. There's something else here. There's something more to this so when you get a compliment from Dana who comes out and says he is a star. He is responsible for these numbers. There's not much of a bigger compliment that you could be given. I don't know that Moslem knows that. I'm not sure that George Boswell is aware of what Dana just said about him. There is nothing that you would rather have as because you're talking of. This is a one in a million. This is opening up the that you found on the beach and you find a pearl inside. It does not work this way. Dana White at no point in his career, separated with his time and money known as an investment and move forward thinking he was going to have this. He was how am I gonNa tell stories. How am I going to bill? Guys? How am I gonNa make punches and kicks. How am I going to get out of the state of Nevada and get as far as New Jersey and then perhaps overseas? That's the thought. He opened up an oyster and he found a pearl. That's the compliment. He's giving George. I think George deserves to hear that. I really think he does. Possibly the biggest compliment I've ever heard Dana give a guy. Have, you listened to the Jordan Harbinger show yet. The Jordan Harvey show is an apple top fifty podcast, and it was amongst apples, best of two thousand and eighteen as well. The show covers all types of topics and amazing stories from people who lived them from getting kidnapped by al Qaeda and escaping to go undercover as agent and Moscow to illusionists who can seemingly program our minds. The mission of the Jordan Harbinger show is to help you become a better informed more critical thinker, so you can get in touch deeper with understanding of how the world works and make sense. 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We look at the numbers after Damore tune in to bring in more revenue I guess that would go down as the biggest, but there's another way to look at the throw that one out. There's another way to look at it, which is. Does this fight have to happen? More than any other heavyweight fight in history I think there's a very strong argument to that now. Hold that thought because I'll tell you some of the contenders. Okay? Listener took on over rain at the time of that fight. This was as anticipated as it got the numbers for that fight. If you WanNa Talk Big Bhai numbers. Weren't there. This did just south of six hundred thousand buys now. Brock never done that little advise ever and leser versus ream and a heavyweight match, which in some genres, a bit of a unification match at least for the boys coming in from the east. Versus the boys out here in north, America. Okay. What had happened on this fight? Is the fourth of July fell on a Saturday. So the you see for the first time in like fifteen years Stroz pay per view. On a Friday. And it was just a matter that fans just weren't aware. They just simply didn't know so as good as the numbers well. That's a good number six hundred, but the only reason I offer that for you is this fight deserves to be on? That was a mega fight at the time that the industry simply had to have. But! The numbers will ski a little bit because they did go on. A Friday night was met with some challenges I would argue for far as fights it had to happen was jd s versus Kane Part Two now? That's relevant that it's part, too. Because in part one was the premier, the debut of UFC on Fox. Arguing argumentatively the. Turning point of identifying the mixed martial arts is now a mainstream sport, so it goes on Fox. It goes on prime time, and there was one thing that I think they would change if they could go back, which is they made it a one fight card? Now, there's a whole car, but the only one that went on Fox was the main event which was the heavyweight championship of the world. You Watch TV. Show all. You're going to get this one fight because remember that. Two Thousand Twelve two thousand eleven. So these guys go out there. Everybody's filled with excitement. JD comes out clips. Him Clips them to the point that Kate doesn't know where he is. It wasn't a matter of Cain. Okay, let me wrestle now. I made a bad choice wrestling. No, he was hurt. He wasn't fully their whole fight. Sixty one seconds, which means the whole show. had. Sixty one seconds, but it was an upset. CAIN is the most intimidating athlete in the history of combat I include Mike Tyson, and George Foreman on that list by the way Cain is the most intimidating got knocked out in a minute and one seconds. You got a rematch, so that was A. That had to happen. And I will tell you another one. Fate or merely took on Andrea Orlovsky, and this wasn't an off brand show called affliction, but it was a very big deal. At that time, Andrea had already been the champion of the world in the AFC fate, or was fade or one everything. You could possibly win. Had was like a record of thirty one and one at the time in the one loss came from a cut rematch. The Guy beat him to he. People argue that John Jones is undefeated, even though his record says otherwise people would make the same argument for fatal go. He's undefeated to that match. Okay, fair enough, but the point is. You've now got the pride champion. Taking on the UFC champion four the affliction championship. Fights. And I do believe I mean I truly think the DC steepest fits in there I mean these guys have to fight. This because imagine if they don't. That's really the other side of the coin. How you get to the conclusion of do you have? Do we have to have will imagine if they don't. WHO The hell gets to win that argument. They boo. beat the hell out of each other. Oh should I mention. They both stopped each other. I mean it's one of those things they're in the same weight class. They gotTA fight. You got to go to the trilogy fight very rarely. Do we get a trilogy fight? Kane versus J. D. S. also fought three times. Yes, that would be a trilogy because a flip-flopped. Put. The first fight was bizarre enough that, did they? Did they really are? Can we just at to the real one in fear is no, we can't know we cannot, but that discussions out there and all we would be left with for who was better, but see between DC. and St pay is a discussion war. What the Hell's that those are fun to have? We're having one right now, but we don't want to be stuck with that these two. They gotTA figure this. And those fights by the way. Are extremely confusing. If, you go and read what happened in DC St. Pay for part one. You read what happened. You will leave there with a very false. Interpretation of that match. Two minutes forty eight seconds. With two minutes and forty six seconds of Steve, pushing, Daniel around. Then, Daniel bone with an uppercut foam with a hook new champion. So you'll be very. They're very. Falsely influenced if you just read the outcome well, if you watch the second fight. Steep a stops Daniel Cormie in the fourth round with body shots TKO great. That's true that happened. You will be falsely influenced if you don't go, watch the fight. Daniel through steep ahead over tea kettle, and the very first round and beat the hell out of him. Steep inmate adjustments in the second round. All of a sudden wasn't gonNA be so easy to take down. In fact the closest. There was to take down for the next. Sixteen minutes of that contest thirteen minutes that contest steeping taking. Daniel down. So was a totally different fight. For ten minutes, Daniel Standing was steep A. And I thought getting over on a very close very very close, but I thought the edge was going to tell the fourth round. It dips outside bone touches the liver bone. That's again. Touches deliver again hit him there six teen times before he brought the big man down. That was a war to the highest of levels. If you ever want to use that term in unarmed combat, it was a war that was a war. That fight was a war. And you can look at the first fight and see the Daniel has the ability to get the hell out of there. Because he did. But you can look at the second fight and realize that Steve has the ability to endure. Daniels absolute best. Because he did. You could also then make the argument of Daniel's going to have to just go into the strategy that he did in the very first round of the second fight do that for two thousand five minutes and go home with all of the glory, but that's why they gotta fight. That's why I'm arguing for this fight. This has to happen this the match. This is the batch. I love all of these heavyweight fights I love all of the ones that we just reminisced discussed. I have recently by same as everybody else in all fairness share. But, if I had to pick one, if I have to answer Ryan's question. Of Is this the most important. He said biggest the most important. Is that the message you can't go with how to move. Yes, for me, it is steeper. Daniel. Part three. You're listening to your welcome with jail son in. Sports keep coming back. So does your chance to bet on them with our exclusive wagering partner, bet online dot ag with a massive UFC event. This Weekend Nascar Formula One and EP L. in full swing. There's no shortage of ways to get in on the action. Need more bet. Online has simulated NFL. Madden Games NBA Two K., and you have see happening everyday live. Live for you to watch and wager on and sports get closer to returning bet. 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You gotta go. Take the fights that you take when you can take them. You've got to win the fights that you could win when you can win them. You GotTa hope that the people that like that kind of thing are going like the people who are into that kind of thing. It's just the way that it goes. It's going to be the kind of thing. People like that like that kind of thing. I mean okay. I have to look at that because when I look at. That's not an easy night out. And Sean was calling all sorts of people. These beautiful names fights that you would love to see mean. He was calling out. The Cody Garbrandt of the world could have really something significant on one night and I do get the pushback bringing them a long slow. That's not what I'm speaking to. Show o'malley is a bona fide star. Who is only on the rise has not at all. His Peter has not peaked. Trust me there, but. You do fall back to. Are we as organizers. Falling for the trap that we set for the masses, which is perception is reality, and whoever has the biggest name as the better fighter because that is not true. That has never been true. That is just the perception. That is the great magician look at. What I'm doing with this hand and I would only suggest it's for you because when I look at Voghera as the draw. That's a hard night out. That's another young guy who's up and coming WHO's got a ton of experience. Various one more fights, most guys will even have I won't say there's one light fifteen fights I believe he's had twenty two fights. That's off the top of my head, but this guy knows what he's doing been there done that type deal. I do have to look back at one of the other times where it was openly stated we believe in this guy we see what's in. This guy is going to bring this guy along slowly and I think Raleigh really only been done at least publicly once, and that was to conor McGregor, but if you look back at conor McGregor nobody's career. has looked more like a fine wine. That's gotten better with time than his. CONOR McGregor his second fight. Was the main event of the UNDERCARD, and the show was in Boston where the Irish are abundant, so he gets brought. It's only a second fight. This guy it was insane I was there I was made of the whole car and I. Don't say that the put my place. My say that to say I saw everything I'm at press conference center. WHO This guy is! I never met him I. Never Seen Him before. He's getting all the questions. or a lot of them. The fight comes you talk about the pop of the roar of the crowd. He's getting the loudest reception. Or amongst it. We have to post fight press conference. WHO This guy! He's got a whole bunch of questions again. I only share this for you. Because they brought in an easy opponent for him that night, they wanted to put him over. They wanted to shine him up and put him over. They saw some star potential, so they gave him a bomb. Named Max Holloway. Before Max was Max Max. At only had one fight within the organization, Max was twenty years old. You see the problem looking back I. Mean you see the risk that everybody was taking? Their was not the perception around Max. There was not the big beautiful number. Next to his name, there most certainly was not a twelve pound shiny belt around his waist. It was before Max backs, but those skills were real. So, many people have rewritten that fight and tried to say we'll connor hurt his knee, and that's what the fight was so close to fight was so close to the best firestorm ever done it that found each other on an undercard in Boston back in two thousand fifteen. That's what happened. Connor gets another easy fight after it gets passed. Max a real easy fight with a kid from Louisiana named Dustin Pori A. Do you see the problem. Poor was an upper down guy. He was young at the Taiwan. Say Twenty, three twenty, two young guy at the time, oh pretty good record, but not great. Little potential, but it looks like he's probably going to be journeyman. Well sure everyone looks that way until they don't. I only share this with you. Because a lot of times this recipe and there was major. Push back, connor you'd all the haters coming out watching the arenas? This guy is filling up watching the tickets and t shirts and pay per view. This guy is moving well. Yeah, you're giving music fights. That was the perception that was a false perception. That's the entire point I'm talking to about the dangers of a perception that turns out to be false. Called stepping on a landmine, it looks safe. Boom. The problem. So when I look at this o'malley fight. Yes, he will be the favorite. Yes, he should be the favorite. 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Hey, not so fast. We matter to. So if you take a look at that division, I think you'd have a very clear fight that has to be given more respect and a little something more on it between the beat. And Year Rodriguez. I think we have to have a little more just because they deserve then hey, go out and have a main event and entertain the world. Okay that's pretty good, but how about a title shot or how about a very path that? The winner of this is one away from a just think with that fight. I think it's one of those that they probably are going to get a nod in some fashion as it gets a little bit closer. But you cannot definitively say. Right now for sure the winter that fight for fight for the championship because you still have the Zombie out there. And the Zombie is a very meaningful guy. The Zombie has a couple of things against him one loss to Rodriguez and secondly. He didn't have any kind of a backstory. With the current champion of Okeanov Ski. And it's not all storylines, but it does come to a mandate of the masses, the shout from the rooftops. What is they want to see? And they propel somebody for it I don't know that the zombies got that in his favor necessarily, at least as of right now, he would have with Max. So. Let's just say for fun as we're trying to break. unpack this division a little bit. Let's say the winner of the beaten. Your rear comes out there healthy. They make the call out. Boom fight gets made great. Move On. What do you do was Ambi-. I feel for for my money. Zombie versus Max still needs to happen I. Think Max would've won that. We needed to fight. They got a backstory that fight was promised. They did the press store. Let's preserve that fight if we can, but you've now got Ortega stick in his those zombies been and they got backstory to. Never looking for an easy night I'm sitting here. Telling him to plan is a little bit careful. Get yourself something he's he's. He's going to reject what I'm saying right away. That's not how his mind works at all. But there is a few moving parts or look Ortega versus zombies a damn big deal. That is a fight that we all want to see. I'm not trying to throw water in that fight. I'm just suggesting for Ortega. That thinks that through just a little bit because the. Fact of the fight is a big deal. Tells me. If I got a roll, the dice here ninety percent of the time. That's coming up at the end of the night. If that comes up in a main of it. You're now talking about five atmosphere for five around atmosphere, and you go back and look at the fact. That Ortega's last fight was in December of two thousand eighteen. I think with that meaningful break particularly to go when there was somebody who's dangerous, Zombie particularly with the cardio of Zombie. I could see where Ortega would want to come back into more of a co main event spot that just means he gets. He gets to dip a toe in the water i. He doesn't have to push himself quite to the same limits when he's making a comeback and he's got every right to make a comeback so hard long drawn out fight. He's been on a break I. Don't know that he needs to walk back into a main event, but he's going to if he's not a little bit more careful here. And there's only a couple of ways to get around that. Because Ortega foreshore is going to slam the door, right in right in the face of this idea and put out. He's GonNa. Hate it. He's probably already quit listening to video right now. Just Oh, he works. He's a competitor. He's rough. Tumble guy doesn't give a damn. I would just encourage them to give a damn look if you want Zombie. Or Bust and that's where your head's at okay. Find a card that already has a main event and call him out for a specific date. And we got main events lined up just off the top of my head through mid August. We got st pay in DC. Coming up on August Fifteenth August sixteenth. So call him out and say I'll meet you in Vegas as a matter of fact, I'm planning to go watch the heavyweight championship. Why don't we just open the show that I've only suggesting for you that if we're take, is gonNA jump right into the deep end. Because he's got huge courage at WHO's balls and he's a competitor, all things that we respect all things that we credit him with. There could be a little bit more to the plan. I WANNA fight Zombie. Okay, great her got it. But you have two ways to fight him. Do you want to fight him for twenty five minutes, or do you want to fight him for fifteen now? The option is up to you I'm just a guy sitting over here on a chair. Bad Guy Studios, but I am looking at something known as your last contest and it was a period of time ago. Ortega you or not fully expected to do everything. Appreciate the hero status. Appreciate that you want to, but you're not expected to. And like the old saying that life goes. Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. What's very welcome to MMA? Junkies legend to Legend Rolling Burt Watson. This is where I said and have a conversation with a true legend. We sit and chat and have a conversation. We talk about career, life, family, and maybe something you didn't even know about. I'M GONNA. Ask Him questions and I want to get him to ask me a few questions. You know we're GONNA. Just bad things around maybe come up with some good info. Yes. What Man I am sitting here now with the man. The. Gangster, the bad guy, the branch Mr Channel, sunit. How you doing man! Out of my mind May, there's nothing to do where I live. And there's nobody to do. Nothing with I'm happy to be joined by you though I can tell you that much. Well they'll feel. Don't feel bad because everybody else is doing just about the same thing. They probably so damn tired and looking at themselves. They don't zoos, so don't feel bad. Listen. Man welcomed alleged legends. You coming. Join me, you know we've known each other for quite a little while and we've had different various conversations, but. All of our conversations have been mainly event related now I want to sit and chat. You know I'm GonNa ask you questions and I want you to ask me a few questions. Whatever no questions off of bounds as far as you could ask me whatever baby and I. I'm ready to roll, but elimidate's. I've done a little research. And after the my memory back a little bit and I'm GonNa. Tell you when we're done with this. I'm gonNA personally called Netflix. Have they don't pick up your story. Then there's certain there's something wrong you know. Trust me I've done my research man. You GotTa story behind you well. I tell you and by the way I would love. New to watch on Netflix I have exhausted that channel. I signed up for something called. I've watched everything on there. I got Amazon Prime Listen I I got channels I didn't even know were channels. When this whole thing. I've seen it all Bert. Well let me give you a little hint. gunsmoke rawhide have gun will travel the lone ranger a man. There's a plethora of those things in fact, those things the blood is still great. Okay, you don't get jaded. You don't feel intimidated by anything you say I. Believe me that's the only type of television. I watch what it's when they do decide to do this I'm GonNa tell you. I WANNA. Play myself or your coach now I forgot your coach's name, but he was always going around saying that he was my son. Clayton hires. OR AS I. Am I as I've heard him described himself. Clayton hires dark, skinned brother minded guy. A girl dreams about I. have heard him introduce himself as that. You know what that sounds like my son exactly. Exactly you know what there's been a time. When somebody's Bahama tapped me on the shoulder when you guys when you were doing a fight and thought that I was I was played. You know with the little hat and little thing going on. Listen you've had one heck of a career. You've add forty nine pro fights around the world and Japan in the US. You made your pro debut in nineteen, ninety seven. You know with this being twenty nineteen with Balladur band reading your last fight. We'll get into rather that rather. You're retired. You Still Rolling Kinda, put in twenty two years of this and that's that's horrible. You wrestled at Brigham Young University and the University of Oregon you're sober. Metal record roaming at the World University Championship. You want even tried a little bit of professional wrestling in Nineteen, ninety eight right Y'all think I've done my I've done my homework a little bit. You know you're you have see pro debut was in two, thousand and five. You fought in Dutton, UFC WC belot, or pancras both off fights. And you host, ESPN MMA and your own bad guy inked. That's as a ton of stuff in a very busy man. Chat Hey you made you made me smile on that. You brought back some good memories when you're talking like the W. WEC and Bo dog I mean we had some really great times. By the way of those forty nine men I fought burt over twenty two years. I never finished less than second. Can you believe that all those years and I was never less than second quite remarkable. Well I'll tell you one thing. You always always came in first and putting yourself out there you know. Why don't you just Kinda all that together before? We get cranking it just Kinda. Give us a little bit history of where you got started. You know where you're from. You know you're. You're a guy from Westland Oregon from Brigham Young, university. Are In state. Would you spread nothing but hot sauce all the way across from Oregon the Las Vegas. Louisiana hot sauce. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your history and how you got started? Okay, so maestro wasn't overly complex I came from a family of wrestlers. My father, my uncles, all my cousins, who I really looked up to. We're all wrestlers, and there was a rule in my house. Now we had lots of rules, but one of the premier rules was you do not skip school period. If we think you're in screen to be where we think you are, you don't want go to class today and let us know type deal, but that was the rule. Rule and I follow that very closely Intel. Nine hundred ninety four junior year in high school, I cut class my one and only time I went to the video store with my buddy. Jeff we went to Jeff's house because his parents were gone, and we watched a V.. H. S. copy of something called the ultimate fighting championship, and I went home after school and I confessed my father what I did. I said, but dad. Here's the good news. I found out what I WANNA do with my life, and so I told them all about this. I didn't get any kind of trouble. Trouble believe it or not. He let it go. I think maybe because I confess to him, but he was also very intrigued by what I was telling him that I watched and telling them how these guys were doing in these different art forms, and my career kind of went from there. My Dad was all in. We went right to a boxing gym and sign up for boxing wrestling my whole life, but we signed it for boxing I. WanNa say it was that night, if not within a couple of days of of me coming home with the story and just kind of started. started the pursuit. I went to college at Brigham Young and the coach. There was a man named Mark Schultz and mark. Schultz won the world and the Olympic Games. He was a great decorated wrestler, but he also had a black belt Jitsu and I didn't even know what you to was. We heard this term. You've got this Guy Heus Gracie on this VHS, but there was no gym or club Jitsu and that was one of the reasons I went to Byu was specifically because we had a coach. Who knew this form of martial art that nobody else had ever heard of? I dream to be a fighter. I was just a young kid, but I had this dream like any other young kid and when I got out of college I just pursued. Now, I understand that you started Brigham young and you were there and there was talk of disbanding the wrestling program and you transferred. To. The University of Oregon was Yup. Yeah that that's all that happens so to go back to the coach Mark Schultz and you gotta understand Brigham. Young is a very religious college emphasis. On more walk. A Mormon College Latter Day saints same thing as Mormon and. The coach Mark Schultz got an opportunity to go fight in the UFC, and he took it and I wanna say he was paid like forty six thousand dollars a year to be the head wrestling coach. He got fifty thousand dollars for one night over in this thing called the UFC so when he took that the athletic director found out about it and said. Hey, you ever do that again. You're fire and they never really patch things up from there. The writing was on the wall that the program was going to be disbanded, so I transferred and went to the University of were gonNA. Sure enough. They did cut that program, but Funny how that also tied into martial arts. Thing is through the coach, but. I ended up at the University of Oregon about two hours from the House I grew up in. My parents could come up and watch me wrestling compete than great time. Man is a great time of life I was there for four years, but boy. It went by in the blink of an eye. And you've got out of there. And as I said you spread Louisiana hot sauce from Oregon all away to Vegas you know. Now your nickname, the bad guy. The gangster brands cocky. All of the good things. But you seem to embrace that you know it's like everyone enjoyed putting a camera in your face. Tell us a little bit about that. Bert I gotTa tell you, so they started calling me the gangster because of a number of federal crimes that I committed and really it was. It was apple's Robin Hood. I mean if I was to explain this to you. In simple terms, it was half a Robin Hood. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor. I stole from the rich, and then I kept it and I'm not saying I'm a hero bird. I'm just saying. I'm a regular guy who did something heroic, so perhaps they should call me that instead. Perhaps they should call me a hero. Well I'M GONNA. Tell you somethin' in in all of of my career, you know. It since two thousand one. You are the original. You are the original Talk you know I've heard that you know I've heard others. Come along, you know and try to perpetrate and at times I. Hear Them. Comparing, Conor McGregor to to you in your style, but you're the original. Sometimes guy can talk through and top things and not be as venomous. You will never been with your stuff. Your stop was always smooth, and it always made sets you know. How did you manage to put that together like that? Where did that come from? You know I got a big compliment I. think that's how you met and I did have fun with that and I've heard that same comparison to conor. McGregor and I've loved. Wait a second I didn't compare you to Kinda. McGregor I reversed that. You can you were the original? You must really did appreciate what I've seen is I have heard other people try to draw a comparison between CONARD. I will just tell you I love what Carter does. I think it is so I will stop what I'm doing. If Connors got a microphone in his hand, so I liked that, but as far as You know I was influenced by other people, too, and I appreciate you calling me the original. I think at this space I definitely was, but there was other guys that can. Of course. We got the Great Muhammad Ali but you could look to the world of professional wrestling. I'm not as big of a professional wrestling fan is sometimes I. Hear said about myself, but there was greats over there stone cold, The rock come to mind, and there was just something about that. I had a different impression of what. People wanted to see I used to talk about that with my dad. We'd sit around and try to figure out the best style to go into the sport, the best style to train and we also would sit around and try to figure out. Who people want to see, what is the best marketing are? What is the best way to get attention and get people to pay attention and stop what they're doing to watch what you're doing, so you know it's just one of these things where? I would work on a lot of that stuff you called me. I appreciated that I used to work on that though I go to press conferences and have an idea of what was going to be asked, and I would start to form ideas of what message I wanted to give back, and over time I even had some people that criticize that and they go wait a minute. He had that plan and I'm going. Why would I ever show up anywhere and not be prepared? I never went to a tested a day in my life, right, it's study for it. I never went to fight without training. For why would I treat a press conference any different? Let me. And you know I worked with Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier and I came up within that era and I saw how he handled it and transitioned from boxing. Right into MMA and you. You know you have a a debris in sociology which I don't know how many people knew that, but if everything you did, there was a strategy to it. I mean there were so many stories that I heard, and I listened to you know. I heard one. I. Call Him since I heard you. Talk One about your hardships. Growing up in Westland in your dad barely made a hundred thousand dollars a year. You made only work twice a week. You remember that yeah. Now that was tough. And there I could go. There was days. It was so hot air conditioner network we to go outside and the swimming pool just to cool off man. It was disgusting, but. That's all behind me now fortunately. A. One point, two neighbors had twins into. They only had one Mercedes. Car They share the car bird who's GonNa. WHO's shotgun today? WHO GETS TO DRIVE? These are things I had to see. I saw a guy one time littering apart just publicly just litter. It's sure somebody picked it up and put it in the trash can, but for the moment, so that had to sit there and the law was broken right in front of me. You wonder why grew up to be this way? I'll tell you what they should pick it up and walk the walk and you talk to talk. You know you you you. You started your professional career. In Nineteen, ninety seven. You entered into the US C.. N. N., two, thousand and five, and you know things started happening and you started. Working your way through at then, you came upon the situation with vandalised sober. Who felt you disrespected him. the people are Brazil- Brazilians, and you know during your time on the tough show. He actually threatened to walk off the show. What happened with that? What would that situation Alberto was a mess, so my heat was with Anderson Silva and Anderson would be right to be disgusted with me. I invoked his wife I. His entire country, his people I mean I was there was spreading spreading that hot sauce. You put it all around, but somehow they. Tried to insert himself in the conversation I was never really I'm not clear to this day. How vandalism became a part of Anderson is beat, but okay. Here we are, and we get out to the ultimate fighter in Burnham. This story is already written. We don't need a script. I get it. He gets it. He gets to where the white hat I gotTA. Wear the blackout. I'm the guy that insulted this whole country and now I'm in the country. It's not. Not Going to be great for me, but he gets to be the big hero. So on the very first day for reasons unknown, he stands up before we start filming and he demands. We're all in the same room like the way this works is the fighters that fight to get their way in, and so everybody else leaves. It got beat everybody's. There's all and vandalize. Coaches are going to pick like kickball team now. This was tough. Brazil tough Brazil yes. In the country, nobody wants to be there. I mean even these guys that are about to be on my team. Are All hoping I? Don't pick them. It's not not a wonderful day. It's a very. Tense moment and with me I got Vinnie who you know I got. Scott mccord got Jamie and then I have. Clayton that's it. Nobody else even speaks the language so I mean. If this thing goes to fisticuffs, we're not coming in I. I can tell you that much so so. I'm out there to do my part later. I'M GONNA. Let the guys on the gag that hey, between Anderson and that was that we were doing business over there, but you know, give me another chance, but I I don't even get that far away stands up and says before we go any further you and he points I'm completely I number. You are going to apologize unless you apologize. I'm leaving the whether you're going to have to leave man because that's not, that's not part. Part of the skit. I do not give apologies. It's part of being the bag I can't really come off brand to make you feel better in a room of empty people when I'm trying to entertain the masses at a later date on television. That just isn't going to happen, so he left I. Mean that was the suckers move that he made is he didn't give himself any other way out. It's like Vanhala why did you include or I'm going to leave like why? Say Stream so he grabs his de grabs his jacket and he leaves that we all have to go in a back room and it's getting late Bernie. It's one in the morning one thirty two in the morning. These guys were all beat up. All already fought that day. Even though they want, but they're all beat up. They're hired. They're hungry. This thing turns into a mess. So all of a sudden. He who was supposed to be the hero is now. The Villain I was supposed to be the Ville. I'm now the Hero I. Like everything was wrong. And I go back room and I even explain this to them. They took the cameras down. We took our microphones off his civility. You have understand this. You get to be the hero, but if you Boli me and pick on me, that's GonNa. Make me sympathetic. I don't want to be light. You do so go ahead and take it. I'll take the other role. That's the one I want, but I couldn't get just. He did not understand. He was too hard headed. And when the whole thing was done, he came out the bag. I came out the good guy. He hated I hated it I don't WanNa be the good guy burn. You know it definitely came across like that, because in watching that and listening. When he asked you for an apology. I didn't see where the apology was coming from. Or why were you? What were you apologizing for or did I? Miss something what he's threatening? If you didn't apologize and I know you went at Anderson because somebody's somebody's wife, you gonNA. Have Cook a steak and do a little. Media era medium rare birth, the way I like it. I. Overcook! I send it back. Well that's probably what he heard because I. Know that he's. He wanted an apology now. Maybe the apology was for him in the people of Brazil and the Brazilian. People you know, but he felt you. You just disrespected everybody. He was picking up. Anderson silver slapped, but then he threatened the leave and he left. He walked out and that was bigger than you would think it was i. mean he literally laughed and now I mean he put himself in a hard spot. There was the part where we I don't think he's GonNa. WanNa. Miss this show and then have to deal with Dana after this, but the other side of it is. He said he was going to leave, and he walked out, and they were starting to make phone calls to be Vitor Belfort to see if they could get him on the production the way those studios work, you've seen the ultimate fighter. You don't have time for this kind of stuff we've got to go. Go every three days a new show. We package these things up and everybody. Everybody flies home, so yeah, it was a very real thing, and that was tough. Know I said that to us at Hey, this was between Anderson and I. Oh, and by the way I answered for I got my ass kicked in front of the world for some of those things that that is the punishment. There's not additional punishment by the way. Did you hear a moment ago? When I compare myself to Robin Hood I, felt like you didn't really give me full credit for that analogy. Half a Robin Hood birthed. Hello, is this thing on hello? How? I heard that but I figured I said you know what I'm not GonNa let him get me. I'M GONNA. Kinda let that one go, but I was GONNA. I was GONNA. Bring it back because I heard how you compare yourself instead of robbing from the rich and giving it to the poor. You kept it for yourself right? Oh I, heard that! which is a half ROIC? That's all I'm saying. All the way there I try to get all the way there, but I got halfway and you know sometimes just entering the races is the borough victory. Now you know it was it was it was said. And I saw. I Don I didn't see exactly who actually do the first show whatever you you. And he got into Tusla matching actually got into a fight correct. Yes, so on the very first day part of the apology that I had to give, he also pushed me that day, and that put a bad taste in my mouth, because I mean you do have to understand my situation, which is I know nobody wants me here. I'm well aware of all the things I said and did. When I'm here anyway, right? We're trying. We're trying to make some TV. It gets raise so I'm here anyway. And it was just one of these tough spots, and I haven't met anybody yet. I have friendships and relationships to this day with these guys, but they hadn't started yet. We hadn't even pick teams so when he pushes me and kind of like this gang mentality. It was a little bit more intimidate Manley Silva's an intimidating guy to start with. They call him the ax murder for a reason. Then, when you're looking around and go man there, it's thirty two on three right I mean it's thirty two three and Clayton not for nothing, but is is retired I become. What are we doing this so? He's still able to put a hand in and give a little hand fight. Oh, he will believe me. He would have, but it was one of these things where it's like. Let's not do this, so he pushes me, but that's all did so i. take the push. Allow the separate I just let it go, but in fairness I let it go in large part. Because I was scared I mean there was a part of it was like. What are we doing fighting you? After a training camp on an agreed upon time is a tall order fighting you in the streets with no gloves. No, thank you so. That was the very first day, and that was never caught on camera. So as we fast forward through this process I was pretty weary. This guy I didn't know him personally. Anderson Silva I think kind of understood a little bit about what was happening whether he let the world know, or not I think he understood okay. Just let this guy go sell the tickets valey Yeah he appeared to not get it into. Have taken legitimately personal, so you know maybe the best way to do here. Just stay away from this guy. And then one day we ended up together, and he confronted me and I tried to. I tried to blow him off, and he came back again and a third time, and finally he pushed me, but I was real worried at that point. Point like if he got into my dad used to tell me. A lot of people's fathers would tell them you can defend yourself if the other guy throws the first punch. My Dad's was a little different, which is if the guy gets within arm's reach? The fight has begun. You don't have to take the first punch. Keep your space, but if he invade your space, the fight just began. So I followed that same rule advantage I told myself look. That guy ever gets within arm's reach. Go First, or or you might go at all, and so I told him that I said. I can't put my hands I. I cannot let you get close. And that was my real short way of telling him. My father told me don't let anybody get close, so he came in Clinton's boom. The fight was on. And doing them Malay I think it was day one of his trainers sucker punch you. Did you know that? Yes, so? His name is Dida and Nida. I was on top van delay and I mean there's a swarm guys coming in there I I got a Jersey one of those really thick tough Jersey and that thing got ripped all the way up my back. Then somebody's punching me in the back of the head and I remember holding Mandalay down. It's a Malay. There's people everywhere, but I remember thinking I was getting hit in the head. Like how is he doing that? I can I can see his arms. It had never crossed my mind bird that somebody else would be punching the band battling iron in the middle of a fight, not to mission making a TV show. I mean that's a. that's a pretty good clip for he so so. So after the fact, everything's on camera. After everything's on camera. Including this thing we're talking about now. With the punches from and people were telling me after the that go. No, it was, Dida. Dita was punching you and I was even though they were telling me. I was having a hard time processing and accepting that I'm GonNa, wait a minute Dita Dita wasn't an athlete. He was a coach, which is a whole `nother level, right? A minute coaches a different level so for him to be involved with sucker punch I couldn't accept that they had to show me it on tape the next day. Dana Fires Dida and fast forward. Three years I'm in New York City Getting Ready to fight Van! My mother runs into Dida in the lobby of the hotel and gives him the business. Dida was a total gentleman I must say. He apologized to my mother. He said my I've already had to apologize to my own mom I. Apologize to you. I'm so sorry. I have never talked about it. He never apologized to me, but as far as I'm concerned. We're good. Was that the I showed it to. Mother came to know my mom came to. My Mom's never missed a match. I even fought in Japan. Before I've wrestled overseas before. She's been at all of them. She comes to every practice on top of that. So No, my mom was there. It was the first time she ran into data and. My wife was there and oversaw to and said that it was. It was pretty bad like even his apology by mother continue to lay into him in. This was three years after it happened. I was a little embarrassed. Wow Wow while and no-one no-one reacted well. You know what I mean it if she's been the most. Your fights believe me I cannot. I can understand mom. Mom once. You've definitely met a bird. I gotTA give you one. I gotTa give you a quick story so. When I got there when I got to Brazil back to the situation, but when I got to Brazil, this was bad and a lot of the view. You understand this, and so will I, but maybe the viewers won't, but MMA is so big. In Brazil it is the number two sport in the whole country. We've got football and baseball and basketball, and maybe even hockey all in front of MMA here, but in Brazil it goes soccer anime in. It's not all that big of a I mean. Excuse me, everybody knows what is so before I. Come out there. I'm getting death threats, and they're very real threats like we Israelis yeah, one guy was telling me how he was going to kill me, and where he was going to hide my body like he had a lake picked out, and he's like they were pretty descriptive. Death threats so Dana Hires a full time twenty four seven. Armed security detail that I'm with I. Mean I didn't go anywhere without a bulletproof car by example, and that would seem very extreme today, but at the time was very appropriate, so. The, relevant to that is these guys whose job is to protect me and they were there when van delaying. Dida jump to me and so the guy who's who's armed and is there had to pull aside and go. Hey, look, I will never try to fight with you, but my job is to protect him, and here's how I do it, and he pulls his jacket, but he's got a gun on his hip and he said you're putting me in a very weird spot just to your TV show I do not want to have to shoot you, but this is my job. Don't do it again and I had to go talk to that guy and. Under no circumstance to you shoot if I gotta take a beat and I take a beaten, but you do not. Don't shoot this guy, but I'm telling you that burt very sober, but that's serious was. And I don't know the band will ever really caught on like. Hey, this guy over here man he's not just here is a wall piece and he's not here to fight. Just so you understand. Wow and you had, but that's not the first time that I've I've seen that situation. Where security. When we went to Brazil, you know everybody had had to get used to the culture because like you said. Those Brazilian mma, fighters and mixed martial arts over there was next to soccer. It was unbelievable hallows fans how they love. You know but. There was a situation with Anthony. I forgot I don't get. Wrong Now No, no I'm drawing a blank, but this young man was there, and they actually swiped necklace Eddie. Johnson from from Chicago apply. And they actually swiped his necklace off of his neck. And one of the guys somebody. Somehow it got around. That he's the guy who was with Anderson Silva. They brought the necklace back to the hotel. And an gave it to give it to the front desk. Put His name on it, but it was it was. It was his his necklace. While well, they didn't like heathen. He was offended because you had a conversation or you talk bad about Anniston sober. He didn't. He didn't like that at all. At at UFC one seventeen, you fought Anderson Silva in twenty ten. You got the fighter tonight. You've got to fight the fight of the year. You actually lead on all cards when you fought Anna soap. Out and at the end, you got caught in an arm bar. But then you dispute. That said it was a choke before. Did you run out of gas or what happened in that site? Okay, so that was my first time in the fifth round I had been scheduled for two other fights that we're five round contests in the WAC. We never saw all five rounds my first time in the fifth round. The reason I bring. Can we talk about run out of gas I can tell you I was for sure retired now I don't ever remember having a fight of my life. Why left with any energy? I used it all and I used to being tired but this. This may be was another level I do remember one thing, which was in the fifth round, which I had never been to before Mike. Corner told me before the round that it was the fourth round that we had two rounds to go and I only bring that up to you because I have often wondered would've done something different. If I knew there was only a minute left, a minute left. I'm going to be the world champ as opposed to a whole another round and I don't know and that is an attempt to blame a corner. Have you shared a story with you about that? Specific moment is? You had no idea where you were in in in times in time with a clock was and at that point. No, we were doing five route. Five isn't all that big of a number, but when you've never been in the five round club performance very unique experience, you can look at fighters that have been doing this twenty. twenty-five Vitor Belfort comes to an absolute legend world champion will be in the hall of fame. He is not in the five around club. He has never gone five rounds and I. Don't suspect the ever will. Veto a name that people will recognize Andrey point out for you. It's a very rare club. Not many guys. River remain a veteran title fight. Even be put in five rounds. Let alone go the duration to share with you. I did lose track of the rounds. I didn't really know where I was, and he hit me very many times, but every time he hit me. It affected me so between all of the chaos that goes on lost rocket chaka track of the rounds and it was a it was a choke. It wasn't an arm bar that. That made me tap, and I didn't really know where I like in that moment as you start to fall asleep you kinda. It's one of these things whereas you start to go out, even if it's for a half a second, it could be five minutes. You don't know how much it's kind of like when you go to sleep at night. Have I been asleep five hours of sleep five minutes? You don't really know you gotTA. Look o'clock, so it was kind of one of those strange moments and I'd never seen the fight. I never watched any of my fights over to weakness I'd be better off if I did but I never do. It makes my stomach nervous. My hands get sweaty. Even if I know the outcome and I watched that fight. I don't think I ever will. So, leading, but leading up to that fight, you have fought Dan Miller. Commie and Nate Marquardt and sack beating Nate Marquardt. Was What set you up for that fight? You know you fought at light heavyweight at middleweight. How much of a break does a fighter need? In between fights or after a big fight like that when you had with I'll tell you I think each athlete can give his own opinion for four himself but I I've only got one resentment towards this sport or towards this industry, which is that we only get three matches a year when I was growing up from nine years old until I graduated college at Twenty three years old, we got five and six matches a week. Every Saturday was a tournament. You'd have four to five to six matches just on that Saturday I could put. Two thirty matches together in a month and a ten month season you got two months off and you came in and did it again. I always resented the fact that there's something make believe that we need x amount of time between fights, and maybe that's good for some guys, and not for others, but for the others that it's not I wish we could be a little bit more busy. So how much time is a guy named man I know these fighters are the laziest guys I've ever met burt. It's the sort I look up to. It's the guys that I admire, but the more you get to know him the more on turned. Turned off I don't know who raise some of these guys. They sleep in all hours of the day. They played video games. I mean some of these guys are playing video games as grown men. They're like posting it on their social media that they're playing Super Mario Manage. It's freaking weird, and then you go to work three times a year. Come and some of them. Don't even show up some of them. Call in sick of those three times. My father was a plumber. He would've never missed work. No matter what and these guys don't want, show up one of three times a year. Come on, you're a bunch of fake tough guys. I would never call in sick. Never ever feel good. Then he could get the win, but I'm not going to concede it to him by not making the walk. You say you'RE GONNA. Do something you do at the time. You said you were going to do it end. Is, it isn't easy for you. If you create these with a fighter, or if there's animosity, I was a lot easier for motivation for not only the media, but it was also motivation to get up and train your. The training was the hard part. The fight is most definitely tough, but it was the training that was so difficult. Oh my goodness like when I finally retired from the sport burn. I do miss the competition. I missed walking in that arena. I miss in the back and feeling. Those nerves getting your hands route i. Miss All that stuff. I think I always burt and Bert Watson getting you pumped up baby. We Rollin, baby, of course man, you just let you just sit there waiting to hear that sound but I will tell you this. There's not one day of my life. I have missed those practices I mean those workouts were so hard and so grueling. Clayton US we used to run every single morning I. Apologize every Sunday morning. Six Am is when we we reported to what he called the track and we had one that track to warm up and then two rounds on the. Just to warm up, and then we got to run up. This hill was two and a half miles straight uphill. So just an incline on what you get to the top three rounds of mit work halfway down, run the staircase three. Three times all the way down one spread around the track. Go home. It took exactly one hour. It was so hard and it was six. AM every Sunday in out here in Oregon we deal with snow. We deal with with shy. We deal with rain most. It did not matter six o'clock on the track. Sunday or else and I never found out what the arrest was I. Never Miss I don't miss that damn. Hill I can tell you that much the. Man was this was this was this hill? A straits straight up hill was was this dares to. It was running in and out of the jungle is so forth. This thing went straight up. You started right at sea levels a matter of fact you could see the ocean. It was right level with other side of the street, and you run up to your two and a half miles. Every step is an incline, so coming down wasn't near as bad. That's kind of where you would regain yourself, and then we'd stop halfway. Halfway across the street and there was a staircase, and we had a sprint up that thing and you had to the top in eighteen seconds. If you weren't didn't count now, you only had to go up three times, but if you went up and you didn't get in time you had to. It didn't count. You had to go again, so yeah, man it. It was tough of all the things I've had to do in this light that Sunday morning. It was depressed long, just knowing Sunday was coming. It was that hard. Will. When did you put into training? When did you actually do your contact work we would do. We went every single day. Monday through Friday Saturdays, we're off, and then we did the run on Sunday and then the rest of the day was off and I'm kind of to day off guy. I'm Kinda. Go hard for five days. I needed to days to recover so I wasn't given that. Has so much weight to lose. Also going down to middleweight was very very challenging for me was a lifestyle change it when it was really hard to kind of needed those extra cash kind of needed those extra workout to burn the couch. We would go. Excuse me some level of contact five days a week either full speed, wrestling or full speed, sparring our full speed kickboxing whatever it was, but every single evening there was some kind of live contact. Well you know. I always got you guys. The week of the fight and I only saw you cutting weight, and that was a hard week. What was what was your thought? What is your thought on fighters losing weight and cutting weight winners the too much weight cut I know there was a time and I. Only heard this this one. I didn't know that you lost twenty pounds in one day. When you fought Dan Miller, you actually lost thirty six pounds in twenty two days taking the fight with twenty two days out. Yes, so the Dan Miller store real fast I had never been given a bonus in the UFC. I heard. That was the thing, but I didn't know anything about it. I had to lose thirty six point two pounds and twenty days from the day I got the call. The fight was twenty one days from the day got the call those thirty six point two pounds, and I got to include the point to point to work WANNA come off so. That was physically the hardest thing I've ever had to do. And Dana read a story about that. And he gave after this was dummy gave me ten thousand dollars, just for making weight and I must tell you. Ten thousand I'd have to fight five or six times a year back in the old data to have ten thousand dollars, and then a lot to me, but I wish he would have told me ahead of time. If you make this, I'll give you this. It would have me through some restless nights, but that was the Dan Miller story, and then the the twenty two pounds Aita lose twenty two pounds in seventeen hours one time. It was July in Las Vegas. It was about a hundred and eight degrees out, and so it came off. The first few pounds came off pretty easy the rest again. That was another sleepless night. Wow Wow and I i. know that that's the hardest time. That was the hardest time I didn't experience the training, but the way it was always the worst part of the drain. The worst time for the guys you mentioned about you know the fact that you had cut that way to Dana, Drop the ten thousand dollars bonus on you, you know I've always known to be pretty good with giving guys bonuses in you know I don't know if that was his thing with the bonus and so forth, but I hear a Lotta guys complained about the money that they're making the money that they're getting. What is your thought on that? Well, so sport is only got up to put it just from my perspective in my tenure, but I started in two thousand and five in terms of the UFC, that was my you have see debut and I'd already had like twenty two or twenty three fights. I've been at this a long time I had a good record i. Two Years Yeah I trade everyday with multiple time world champions where I stood I knew where I belong about US having a really hard time getting that opportunity, and to put that in perspective, though I was minimum contract and minimum contract in two thousand and five was two thousand and show up in two thousand a win. Row The minimum contract. Today is twelve and twelve and I don't. Think that's fair well I. Don't I just don't know another business in that perspective. You could talk McDonald's fortune. Five hundred Exxon Mobil I don't know of any business that brought the bottom up from two grand all the way to twelve, which is a multi six times higher in that short period of time so I think they should get a lot of credit. In that regard, the sport is very top heavy. Whoever the main event is is largely feeding everybody else on the card over time you grow up you becoming A. A VIP but now it's your job to pay everybody else back so or pay everybody Ford. If you will a lot of the top guys that are making very good, seven figures, seven figures, plus would like to make even more and I don't know that they're wrong to do that. It's just make sure you do understand the history of the sport which is at some point. You weren't that top guy, but you still got paid so once you become the top guy. You are responsible for some others. That's that's true. You know it, it's I. Hear guys quite a bit either complaining or or criticizing what they're making, and you know and compared to boxing and. You know it's it's tough to compare that I worked in boxing and I worked with Mike. Tyson Oscar de la Hoya Joan all those guys when they were making all that money, but then again at that time. You had. Three to four guys eighty ninety percent of the money. The rest of the guys was were were just getting paid I know it was a long time before. I remember when dies were getting fifty dollars around. Guy Walked told with four hundred dollars. For four round fight and he was happy with it, but the make the comparison with boxing MMA, but now the May has Hannah escalated to a whole `nother level I hear the guy's making comparison about the salaries, and I hear them complaining, but as a as a fighter. You feel that the that that that they're fair unfair right now. I really like it I really like the way that it's structured in terms of I mean just take on an average night. You're going to have five. We're now calling in our industry main card fights. Fights, but all five of those guys will be featured emphasis on Komeda and main event. All five will be featured. All five stock goes up for next time. It's definitely an investment into your future, but all five are also paid very nicely the undercard now as something to aspire too so I very much like that I also I agree with you on your boxing comparison. Where if you look at the top guys in boxing? Even say Floyd Mayweather was only fighting twice a year, and he was taking all of the money so to. Two. That I kinda like the more the way we're. We're doing. We're look there's there's a different amount of money invert. You'd have to understand this. I've never met anybody who's actually complained about what they're being paid. I've met people who are complaining about what they're being paid in conjunction with what they believed. The ownership is being paid. That's where the argument comes in that the split one hundred percent. And that is very relevant. Because if you do go, look at boxing and you could pull right top-ranked today. You could go park in the parking lot. Walk Walk Right in the door whether Bob. ARUM's and they're not. You could go look around the office, but if you do that, you're going to find eight people that work there. If you were to compare that to the you have where Las Vegas alone. Dana has five hundred and fifty six employees. You understand why he did write. That money is just going home to the white family he's. He's got a spread that around the office and it is a little bit different where the split needs to be different, because the personnel is different, look that's business and those contracts. People are very excited when they sign them I. Mean Bird I see. These guys were complaining, but if you go through some of their timelines on social, Media Day. They signed the contract. They're taking selfies. They're excited and thrilled, and then over time they turn the gun back. I. Think that is underhanded. I do think of you make a deal. A deal's a deal. Great great points I'll always been of a mindset. You. Know You you get what you ask for. You negotiate. You know if you take what you paid in contract. You agree to that, you know if you want more, you sit down and you think about it, you. You know you negotiate for what you think you should get instead of like you said you know when they sign that contract. They're happy. All of a sudden. You know and I'm not. I'M NOT CORP-. I'm not a corporate guy. I got into this for fighters for the sake of the fighters. It's always been in my heart for the sake of the fighters I did I. Get a show once where this poor guy got four hundred dollars. For a six fight. And when the fight was over, they took out money for his medicals. They took out money for travel. This guy ended up with one hundred ten dollars. And when he came to me any each I felt bad for the guy, and I went in my pocket and I gave him what little I think, I had maybe one hundred and fifty dollars. I didn't give him off I didn't get them. The majority of I gave him as much as I possibly could, but at that point I said to myself I will never let another promoter take advantage of a fighter, and that's why I got into this business and started trying to take care of you. Guys Guide you guys in the right direction. Make you feel that you were not just to get joe ass up and go home. You know that there was more that was that there was more to it than you're. Your wrestling background is stellar. Have you. Gotten into or or taking any training in be in Bj I did I way too late way too late in life burn I started about two thousand, fourteen I have fought for five world championships, three of the UFC two in the WEC and never done one day of Jujitsu practice, m may practice where there was plenty of submissions, but not a day of Axel Jujitsu, since then two thousand fourteen till now. I made a commitment I actually just received if I, if I could just received my black belt under Fabio shareowner possibly the slowest rise to a black belt in history started Marshall. Nineteen ninety-seven. I just received by black belt, but Yeah a lot of the mistakes that I made or positions that cost me and competition. Had I known what I know now just about training parent. I would have spent more time specifically on on. Jujitsu but. Yes I do now I, did it do Jiu Jitsu soon enough? When you mind is the best be JJ practitioner. In the sport of Ma I think it's down to two and I think it would be very hard to argue around Damian Maya and Jacques Array Soza. Between those two now, those two actually met up for a world championship Ju Jitsu. My him wanted to nothing so I. Suppose my gets to win that argument, but I would have to think it's between those two by the way could Moraga MEDOFF. Doesn't Foley Do Jujitsu? Bombo out of respect he does not do. But out of respect to his country, he calls it Sombo, but as far as a ground athlete I. Think could be as good as you're. GonNa find the absence of George saint-pierre. Says good as you're GONNA find. Well. Aside from yourself who's the best. You've ever saying the bet well. Okay, so George saint-pierre is the best I hear. These arguments made all the time and I. Get I get asked to weigh in on it because I fought interested in a couple of times, who's in that? I, fought John Jones, who's in that conversation I fought fade, or who's in that conversation, but I also had a fight that nobody saw it was in the basement. BASEMENT JIM IN LA in two thousand fourteen and it was against. George Saint Pierre and I will tell you with no happiness about I will tell you George saint-pierre whip. Every one of those guys trust me on that. Really, so you would say for all for all around. He's probably the best MMA fighter. You've ever seen best I've ever seen yet. And you know what that answer is going to change very quickly and I'm not one of those guys that clings to the past like you'll hear people arguing Lebron is is better than Jordan Jordan better than the bronze. You have to understand if you take. Take the standpoint. The Jordan was better. Okay fine, but here's what you're also saying you're saying. The sport that you love has not evolved since one nine, hundred, ninety two, and if you don't evolve, you become extinct, it's basic biology, so you're giving a tremendous insult to the entire sport of basketball by trying to complement Jordan I'm not one of these guys that come to you with. John! I'm just sharing with you that four right now at Saint Pierre. This sport is still growing at a very rapid pace. I think what Qamar Uz men is doing is going to start to make a dent in the conversation. I think that could be a number of great matches in front of him. He's completely undefeated. Not for nothing I think conor McGregor though he may have trouble in some of the longer contests look as far as skill for skill goes. He's as good as I've seen. Really caught him a great risk. Fantastic so long bird. He's so fat I went. Look at this guy. He's got an amateur boxing record. He never should have been given a license to fight. Against Floyd I mean it gets looks and tries to say our first job is fighter safety. If that's true, you don't make that fight, but they did make the fight because it's not their first job commerce their first job, but at any rate. Fifty and oh greatest ever against an amateur amateur who has never done this and the amateur it thirty minutes I. Don't know of another guy. I'LL PUT MY S- I ain't going thirty minutes with the champion of my weight class in boxing I'll tell you that much. I you know I originally having having been with these guys and seeing guys like yourself when they come into the league. Rookies. There is this big. They develop into to legitimate martial-arts legitimate fighters. You know I've I've seen that. At one point I questioned a little bit about counters chin. That never seen a tested, but then when I saw connor. Go legitimate six rounds or beyond six round with Floyd Mayweather. I had a little change of heart, because May that was that was not an easy thing to do at a guy with a guy at that level Oh. Oh, I fully agree I watched that fight. NAMEDROP here, but I watched it shoulder to shoulder with Teddy Atlas. We're both out there with ESPN. We're working together on the coverage for the week. And Teddy was sweating bullets I mean he was openly telling anyone that would listen I am. Am Very worried about this. This sport that I love and believe in is either reeler. It's not and if this guy that's never done it before can beat our guy who's never lost it doing it before I. Have Hung My hat on the wrong rung and Teddy was sweat. Connor came out in that first round, and he whip floyd and Connor one about four of those I seven or eight rounds and mean people were getting very nervous, but moreover to your point. Yeah, he does have A. Bird. He does everything wrong. I mean he puts his chin up in his hands down. On Rule One. You learn to put your. You'll get tested, but he's so quick, you know. He gets out of the way he returns for. He's a good fighter man. You can like him or not like him, but as far as fighting goes. He knows what he's doing. You know that that that was one of the premier things, of smoking Joe. Chin down straight out hands up. Even though he had that left took any loves each time he went to throw it, but that that Chin down hands up. That was that was the first first rule will allow. I'M GONNA throw. A bunch of names Greg quickly Mayhem, Miller. Renato Sobral Forrest Griffin Jeremy Horn Dan Miller. You shoulda calming. Vandalise were Anderson Silver. John Jones Might Biz being rampaged fade order. Shogun who Damian Meyer? You fought all of those guys. Out of that list? What was your best fight? My best performance that I was most proud of was against Houston economy and to set the stage for that fight. You should was right number two in the world at that time I was ranked number nine in the world. We're the only two top ten guys against each other on the car that entire night, aside from the main event and we were on the undercard, and I was so upset I was I was on the undercard because this guy from Japan. WHO's now one of the maybe the best? Friend I've. I've ever met in this sport, but I didn't know him at the time. This guy from Japan refused to do media. He's refusing to help out and here we are two top ten guys thrown onto the undercut I remember being so upset I walked into the arena in front of nobody, but my mom and ankle I mean it's a ghost town in there. The pay per view goes at seven. I was done, showered up, and having a Nacho coca-cola by five thirty right. I mean that's how early we fought. And Burn I want every round of that fight and I knew this guy was a rough guy i. mean I knew this was going to be a really hard match I won every round of that fight I was very proud of that I. don't mean to Brag I just had a really good performance. Who was one of those performances that I? Don't know that I've ever duplicated and when it was done I remember looking my corner going I'm really happy to win, but that's the Best I've ever competed in my leg. Just everything went well, and I don't know why, and that was the performance wise, though that was the best version of me that I've ever been able to put forward. Would you worse fight my worst fight? I fought with. Rashad Evans and it was just one of those things where I just simply didn't bring my skills I left my skills in the back, and there's various things that go into that most of them. That would be complements to Rashad. I had an intimidation factor by. He was a college wrestler. I knew who he was he was a bigger guy was moving into a weight class, and there was a few moving parts that I think mentally. Maybe maybe held me up in hindsight that I look at, but it also affected me physically, and I just felt like I didn't perform. I wanted to argue for you that the outcome would be different or I could beat Rashad though I. Maybe I could, but that's not my argument arguments just I could have competed better and one thing in this sport that you really want to do any sport, but particularly one on one. You just want to compete. It's about the performance, or it's about the performance, not the. The outcome, so instead of focusing on am I. GonNa Winner Am I gonNA. Lose get a word about that. If you can calm down a little bit and just think about what does it take for me to perform at my best, you can be very happy with yourself at the end of the night regardless of if you got the the golden the silver medal, but when you don't perform, those are the competitions that stick with you. Those are the ones that keep you up at night for a while. How about a fight you didn't want or fight, you didn't get. I always Jon Anik Jon Anik and I were working together at Fox and he made a comment to me one time, and he said you know chill. Your career will never be complete until you fight, vandalise Silva and Vitor Belfort and I don't know why. He said it was an off comment, just no longer than what I just laid out for you, but as soon as he said it. I believe that I accepted it is true, so I got the fight with van delay I never got the fight with vitor, and for some reason, anarchist's convinced me. My career is not complete, so I guess veto would be my answer. Okay Hey Bert. Can I. Ask you one thing just because we were talking about boxing a second ago. Asked me two things. I maintain that the greatest talent we've ever seen in boxing I. Maintain, but a lot of this is because of nostalgia I love. The four horsemen I thought that was some of the best marketing in boxing history. I'm talking about the real four horsemen. Hagler hearns durant Leonard but maintained for you. That sugar ray. Leonard is the Best Sugar Ray Leonard would not maintain that. He says it was sugar Ray Robinson. Am I close though I mean. Will you at least admit sugar? Ray? Leonard was something special. Choudhury Leonard was something special and I would put sugar ray Leonard in the top four. Of all times. who was something Ms One who's One? Muhammed Ali at an I, only because of the fact that I worked with smoking Joe Frazier. Joe Frazier was my guy, but you know I saw Muhammad. Ali through the era of George Foreman. Larry Holmes Chen Norton Joe. Frazier I saw Muhammad. Ali through that irritate. All of those punches. Take those shots you know. He was off for three years and came back and still maintain. Those technical skills at a high level. You know he had. He had a ridiculous gas tank I. Don't Know How guy maintain. The stamina that he did when he getting hit here because that's where he let you get him, he would allow you to them. Every time you started hitting him, he would pull you in a little bit. He would take the rest with you throwing any back you up and he would pepper you a little bit pappy. Secondly I was Joe Frazier in their? Course not only was that my man, but Joe Frazier's record spoke for hisself Porsche and I'm GonNa go a little to the left wing Roberto Durant. I thought Roberto Duran was something special and I did a few of his fights, and you know I i. was I was disappointed when I had the opportunity to do the last fight when he fought against Camacho, but I was always a Roberto. Duran Fan but You know for for technical skills and ring, generalship and being able to control the fight. no-one went to to control the fight. I think when when he fought ray. It was something different to him. The speed that ray had and you know the toning the ray hat Roberto Duran came from a day of bladder eaters when supposedly men were men, boys will boies Schiller Leonard came along, and he put more flash into that and I think that that just totally frustrated him. To a point that we had that infamous, no moss, but those are my guys. You know you mentioned. Somebody and I was doing a signing at the Mandalay Bay. There's like a sports memorabilia store, and a guy will bring people in the guy that owns it. A guy named Keith actually is Roy Jones Jr, junior's manager, so he's a fight guy and I'm doing my little sign, and I gotta be there for an hour and I'm standing next to a liar. Liar this guy. I never met this older gentleman and bird. He won't quit lying to me for an hour. He'd beat Muhammad Ali. He was the greatest boxer. This guy just won't stop line. These blatant lies. The guy's name was Kim Norton, who I was not familiar with I had to go home and look this I couldn't believe it. Oh Mike! I'm glad I didn't tell me was a liar. That probably wouldn't have been a great day. I didn't know. Was the name under the radar. Another one is Jack Johnson that people don't give enough credit to. You, where was this? Where was this? Was this that you met him. We were in the Mandalay. Bay and there's a sports memorabilia store. Heroes would go to a law, yes, yes, yes, and no that so I did a sign it with this guy that just kept lying to me, said he'd beat Muhammad. Ali's that his name was Ken Norton and beat Muhammad Ali turned out. He wasn't lion. No. And I I know him well for the Marines. He was another one you will, but Jack Johnson though of course yet. Absolutely absolutely a lot of time line to Jack Johnson. You know the fact that he was a black. Heavyweight champion is very relevant to the story, because this was the day of the clan, and they would say hey, if you beat this white man, we're gonNA. Kill your black brothers and Jack Johnson. Then you get ready to kill a brother because I'm not in that white man out and then he would. He didn't didn't didn't care at all at all. As a matter of fact, I think he moved to to Europe in defiance. You know I think he was being the when he moved to Europe remember they were going to arrest him. In fact, I believe they did arrest him because he was dating white women, and there was like a long against that and he drove one. Do might have been his wife, but he drove across the State Line into another state. They try. They try a federal crime now. Wow I mean they're very unfair. And he was still knocking people out, but he didn't give a Damn Jack, Johnson. And you know what that was. That was when he threw it wasn't. It wasn't actually called a giraffe because it came from here. L.! Style right. So when when when when jail? Now you're you're with Bela Tori? You had your last fight twenty twenty nineteen. Are you done or you still fighting? I completely done. I'm even done. Compete, and I have to tell you. You'll never quit dreaming about those days like the match that keeps me up the most in my life. Burt is none of the ones we discussed. It was a match that nobody saw it was in college. It was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight in what's called the blood round Mitch means. If you win, you're an all American. If you lose, your is done. And I was ahead by one point. I went for a technique that went right to. To my back, I got pinned by Zach. Thompson of Iowa state there has never been a match that has bothered me more in my life than that match, and the reason I bring that up to as I am all done competing, but it's Olympic year. The Olympics are going to be next year every four years. I get Olympic. Fever I have dreams of coming back and try to make an Olympic team and wrestling I'm not going to do it, but if I were to do something I would, I would come back to that before I came back to. Well I. Mean Right now. You're you're you're you're hosting ESPN. You're you're an analyst for them? You got bad guy. As a matter of fact, what is bad guy explained that to us. A little bad guy has no more than the name on this sign behind me I started a company called bad, Guy Inca ties it. We started doing t shirts, but then we got into some brandy, and I started a youtube page fortunately, but it was. It was able to get big enough that it's turned into a four media company, but that's all. It really is just a cool sign that sets behind me. So! What what do you do on your time off? What are some of your hobbies? Oh? Man, okay, burt! If there's one thing in life, I do not want. It is a day off like if I check I. Check my calendar every night when I go to bed to see what time the first thing is the next day, if that calendars ever empty, which is rare, but if it is oh, my that would be a depression for me I hate days off as much as I hate sleep, but If I had some free time I really like a movie. I like a movie at the theater. Though with a coke big enough to swim ended up at a popcorn that I could never finish, and so the movies are all shutdown right now, so that's a tough one for me, but I don't have a lot of hobbies. I wish I. Did I wish like I knew how to ski? Even know the first step I. Don't know where even the equipment or do you have to have a ticket or I? Don't know how that works. I wish I knew how to Fish I. Wish I knew how to play tennis. I just never learned those things so I have a lot of hobbies. I have a lot of interests, but I don't on hobbies. I'm interested in politics by example very boring for most people, but like those debates I like when two guys are verbally arguing it comes down to WHO's quicker than who it comes down to body language. I study a lot of those things that other people would find doll. You know speaking of of the Bates. You're very passionate about what you say, but that always who you say it to. What where would you feel would be the most powerful place for Your Voice Oh? I have a fantasy of ended up in the White House, but I don't know that I will pursue that I. Do have interests in Washington DC's a long ways from Westland Oregon but I suppose like anybody that would run for office. I would fall into a category A. You have a big ego. You think you're smarter than other people. Sometimes you're right. Sometimes you are, but I think I would fall into that category whether it's good or bad and I would like to have a little bit more influence I would like to have some debates with some of these. alleged. Smart people and see who comes out on top topper, but I have a feeling it'd be one more for the bad guy. That's always the greatest. When I run, the constituents will appreciate the Robin Hood Story as much as you did I do think like nobody's really recognize me like I. I would think there'd be a statue. Put up in my hometown for some of these roic behaviors, but everybody just kind of you know. Kind of less Robin Hood story go go. Well, you know doing during your career. There have been some discrepancies some things of Miss Communications. What would you do differently in your career? And what things have happened in your career that people have not understood? Okay so I think that you're talking about me. BEING SUSPENDED FOR A. Of performance enhancing drugs that I was synthetically inserting. Now I have to tell you this if I could go back if I could have the information that would have been helpful if I could have had some of the testing and some of the education that would have been helpful. You would have done differently. I wanted to got caught. Oh Man. Burt you wanted to. Why was cheating? Because all tell? Does it like coming in second? That's the truth Bert. Well, you know what only the worst guys I know. Come in second man you know, but you know it's you you. You had such a great career and like I said it's been. It's been twenty two years that you've you've done this. And Twenty Twenty I think it was twenty sixteen, Starting Belt Bella towards twenty nineteen was the was the last. You've made a lot of lot of good choices. And some not so many good choices, but you know what you always made the right choices. Because you're still sitting there. You're looking at me. You're talking and you know anybody that knows you can appreciate. You can appreciate your career and I can tell you man I. Appreciate You I. Appreciate Your career and it. It's an honor for me to sit and talk to you as a legend in somebody hadn't made an impact and will still continue to make an impact in this sports bird I was. That was very sweet of you. I don't know that I deserve that, but thank you for that. And I gotTa, tell you that's mutual, and by the way I feel like you're about to kick me off the show before you do. Does the audience know about the time you were mad at me? Do you remember the time in w. e. c. when we had to weigh in the morning of way with you between nine and eleven am so I went down to the scale, but apparently I was in the wrong room, but I found the scale, so I thought I was in the right route to communicate with you, and this is before I had my first cell phone so. Bad. What do you remember? This I found a towel and I found a marker so I. wanted to leave you a note to let you know I was here I? Didn't I was here? I must be in the robot so I literally wrote you a note on a towel and just hung it over the scale that I went back to my room. I do I. DO remember that. You were like hey. Nobody stiffs me on the way in. You Go, but got you. Okay. Out of. You know leaving me that note and I remember and I remember asking Lester Remember, Lester course lasting new that you left that note and as Lester who left the note and he said to me who else. You have no idea how hard it is. It is so hard to write a message on a brand new Powell with all I was over and over and over each letter I was having a really scribble this thing. Then I get to the bottom I got to like. Sign my name in bold letters over and over and over as the as the ink from the pin was going to drive from the. The fabric of the of the Cotton Towel Anyway I'm glad you forgave me for that because you were pretty pissed at the time. was. You know what I think. I was more pissed at. You had the time to write all that on doubt. They anything than anything else, but you know I was always. Very very proud of the way. that. You guys responded because I. Know Sometimes I was a bit of a bit of a jackass, but you know what best being Jack Answering a horse's ASS, absolutely no! Right now my record. Since boxing or in boxing MMA right now is three hundred, fifty, six and Oh. If you average out nine fights. In in a in a course of my career, I have walked six thousand four hundred eight guys to the case awesome. I didn't do I didn't do that by not paying attention and not being a jackass every now and then sometimes right? I. Mean Some I would never think you were a jacket, but I hear what you're saying. You did a very good job of keeping control of keeping. You were possibly the most organized guy there. Nobody else was worried about our ways. Nobody knew whether you made it from the airport or not. Nobody knew if you're in the lobby at six. Am to get yourself back home after a trip except you and I appreciate that Bert. Well, I precede I appreciate. You and I appreciate this jail. You know what and this was only a lead up to us at some point getting do part two of this because I'm GonNa, tell you something I've had a great time. And I've enjoyed every bit of it and I want you to tell me right now that we're coming back for part two guaranteed man of my word. 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Jay's tablet

White Coat, Black Art

26:58 min | 1 year ago

Jay's tablet

"This is a CBC podcast. I'm Dr Brian Goldman Welcome to Waco black art the show but medicine from all sides of the Gurney. It's pretty common to hear complaints about the quality of care at Canada's nursing homes thing is many of those complaints come from loved ones who don't live there the for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts a man I wanted to meet in person when Jay wants to speak uses this reached over put his hand on my Chin and tried to force my mouth shut and quote in his email. Greg made a point of mentioning that J isn't always the easiest patient key strokes on a tablet enabling him to click letters words and sentences on a screen a synthesizer turns those sentences and paragraphs into Jay's voice greater Vancouver Area Jay was deprived of his tablet this kind of thing is terrifying to J. Imagine having people moving your body around without your input or permission suction when they do this my whole body goes into convulsions this time I slid forward smashing my feet into the foot board I cried pain and he jay has been in this room in the high acuity unit of the Abbotsford Regional Hospital for close to two months he was moved here just after the incident Greg described he's poster child for a cause he is however smart articulate and able to tell his own story I think he would be a compelling interview subject for your show. Jd Mas very slightly and lost the power of speech over a year ago he communicates via tablet outfitted with a head mouse device as Greg claiming and Ajay has a speech generating the the softwash from the ventilator he needs to breathe those occasional moans are cries mostly involuntary Nice that enables him to talk much like the late Stephen Hawking when the speech generating devices not set up properly J. can't communicate during a recent stay at a hospital in Ah yes the new ones you editor thank you and so on a camera tracks Jay's movements and turns them into Jay is prompted up high in his hospital bed so he doesn't choke he surrounded by a clutter of Medical Equipment Ah Bente later heart monitor IB drip and with your mouth taped shut so that you can't tell them what you need or what causes you intense pain as Greg said incidents like that happened to j at the nursing home where he lives tainted toes painted toes his friend regularly comes by and gives them a pedicure he has a tracheostomy or surgical hole in his throat a few months ago we received this extraordinary email about a man in long term care I'd like to suggest an interview subject for white coat black art the email came from Greg Gardner and be is activated by a trigger my trigger was falling over pile of logs and tall grass that night the muscles in my left arm started twitching I thought it was the result of the fall air go I didn't think much of he can also use the system to send texts and emails and to post on Facebook home I guess I fit into the category of a workaholic in twelve years I only called in sick four-times take me from your initial symptoms with this friend Greg and surrounding his bed he looks like he's holding court Buddha on the throne with a bit of a belly long hair horn rimmed glasses changed over the years I'm one hundred percent dependent on my tablet to communicate with everyone without it I would be insane when it's unavailable for some reason Z.. Greg is good friends with a man named Jd Mas Jay's fifty seven and one of close to three thousand Canadians with ls he's unable to move his limbs more than uh-huh and at a hospital on one occasion when a respiratory therapist attended him this a direct quote the respiratory therapist came into the room and said I'm going to give you advance the darnall. He couldn't feed the tax into his speech synthesizer so his friend Greg offered to read Jay's answers for him member of his extended family to be diagnosed his younger brother Michael Whom will meet shortly is not having how is your ability to function hereditary in just ten percent of cases Jay's dad was diagnosed back in nineteen sixty eight he died a couple of years later counting two cousins Jay is the fourth the complains about inattentive service and drops F. bombs when he thinks caregivers don't listen to him Jay is a fully rounded human being with his own strengths and flaws he's LS amyotrophic lateral sclerosis came through your Dad's illness what do you remember about that only the bad bets I was five years old at the time and I guess the realization that there was something wrong was when he went into the hospital and we visited him at the hospital and you know he was I didn't answer that one good for brief answers but far too slow to do a lengthy interview in real time I sent Jason Questions what I block it out now all right you holding out but I didn't realize my arm was getting weaker over the next eight months I started tripping over words it was a very slow process what was it like finding out that you have the chalkboard with the alphabet and the numbers and he would have to point at those numbers with his nose in order to communicate four years ago today Jay's health is quite precarious that was about to become clear to me need younger brother Michael arrives at his bedside rela he's born witness to Jay's diagnosis and their fathers your first knowledge and awareness of you've had that attitude ever since Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead that was stand why isn't dad talking what was it like hearing the words hearing he's got ails just like dad you know I was sitting with him take a miniature it took a few moments for the nurse to come to his bedside now J. is hooked up to monitors and as you can imagine that was a very frustrating very frustrating for my mother and you know only being five years old we didn't really uh-huh j what was your life like before you were diagnosed with A. L. S. I was the head receiver for Large Fertilizer Company the guessing game where you guess and I shake my head for no and blink my eyes for yes what's it like to have an itchy nose you can't scratch being a problem early on LS fraud in the first week I was okay with the diagnosis over time I figured I'd give it a fight to the last breath I took a LSS Um suction when Jay has a bit of Flam he can't clear his throat or cough vigorously he needs a nurse positioning him so he doesn't get bedsores so he can use his tablet j told me he has no complaints about his care at the hospital in Abbotsford where I visited him an instrument into his mouth to suck it out a bystander in this case Greg and call for help with his tablet jake also send a text or email to his nurse and then he brought his head up and he just this big pook leading grand came across his face shrugged his shoulders so I just followed his lead he didn't fall apart I wasn't going to make anything things any worse by you know it wasn't GonNa do him any good falling apart falling to pieces so and I think we've just sort of it was a stark illustration just how dependent Jay is on his care providers for everything from keeping his airway clear feeding and toiling him too his chest the nurse suctions up thimble sized chunk of clotted plan better without their combined and the nurse of the doctor told Jay that we believe at this point that you have it and J. put his head down and he cried and then he stopped it just as I'm thinking about turning on the suction myself the nurse walks in briskly not so the care he received earlier this year at Surrey Memorial Hospital he was transferred there by paramedics in respiratory distress the paramedics. We'll give you a minute let this happen okay suctioned my whole body convulses I slid down in the bed this result in my toes being smashed into the foot of the bed I proceeded cry out in pain the RT reached over with his in the bed and he wasn't able to speak at that point and he communicated Entirely with a tablet and when I see a tablet I mean like a small if there's anything that can do for you just let me know okay section this meant I couldn't tell them when I had a b. m. or when I was uncomfortable they would come in and stare at me and say what are you want and of course I replied with grunt they would shrug their shoulders and leave uh to actually receiving a diagnosis of Al s soon as though I got LS from my dad I figure I've had at my whole life left hand and put his fingers on my Chin and tried to force my mouth shut were you able to cry loud enough for others to hear did anyone else come to see what was wrong yes I get out of here for my birthday we'll we're going to do what we can to get you out of here if we have to take a nurse crash doctor and a crash cart with us. JC reading his reply j you had a recent incident while in hospital in which a nurse took your tablet away what happened I have a specific set of instructions that moves with me the office we encourage the patient or their family to reach out so they can follow up on their concerns which would have gone off had his life been an imminent danger but I could hear the sound of Flam and Jay's airway and Moans of distress is broken and she took it away from me what did it mean to you to have the tablet taken away imagine having your mouth taped shut that is what is like when you can't communicate at all me up did you complain about it what was the fallout yes I complained about it I'm not sure what the fallout was j says he and his brother Michael Everywhere I go I just been transferred from one hospital to another the nurse didn't take the time to read instructions she couldn't lined up properly to use the computer she assumed the computer statement a spokesperson said we always strive to provide quality timely care to all of our patients and encourage them to speak directly with their care teams in order to address their concerns effort he could have suffocated earth here anything watch so I cried out until someone else heard me was able to get across to her that I needed to boost up in the bed why do you think the respiratory therapist did that I think the RT tried to close my mouth shut. Jay what other kinds of neglect have you experienced from care providers having hold urine and B. M. for hours on end being forced to take Medicaid the caregivers at the home treated me like I was just another Alzheimer's patient they didn't know what to do with me I think there's a lack of education regarding ails what do you think care providers are assumed earns in the moment we can't speak to the specifics of the case due to patient privacy we can confirm that we did not receive a formal complaint to the patient care quality. Do you fear being neglected even more for speaking out I used to be afraid of reprisals but not anymore complained about the care he received Surrey Memorial Hospital. We put Jay's allegations to Fraser Health the regional health authority in charge of the hospital in I was freezing and I needed a blanket also I sat on my own B. M. for eight hours over two shifts because I couldn't communicate how long until you got the tablet that I was with my tablet I brought Jay's communication tablet with him which is a nurse at the hospital in Surrey took the tablet away from him I asked him about it here again is Jay's friend Greg three days a debate for my brother to come and set it up for me after the nurse took the tablet away you had an incident with a respiratory therapist what happened when the RT's do a throat nations that I've refused namely pain medication I've been ignored for hours on end like I've screamed and cried for ten to twelve hours at a time and this would happen at least once a week he's able to speak up for himself when it comes to how he's treated in our healthcare system we've heard what he had to say about the care he received Surrey Memorial you're listening to cope black art this week and unusual man with LS named Jd Mas he may have lost the ability to talk title he also has complained about his stay at a long term care facility named Maplewood House Michael says you got owners fired what happened she took my tablet away and basically bullied me after the nurse was fired how well did the nurses and Kerry aides take care of you after she got fired the rest of the St thanks for your patience while I watch Michael Puts the head of Jay's bed down just slightly so Jay's is meet the eye tracker on his tablet my goals had a lot of practice push your head back can you the headboard back a little more you need a boost don't you was extremely nice to me it didn't really last were you ever afraid that they punish you for getting the nurse fired yes I was very afraid of reprisals this is our our staff might be frustrated by this because of the time takes patients being the the key word here not gotten a whole lot of suction all these things happened in the care home where I was living Jay why do you think this has happened repeatedly I firmly believe that this is a very misunderstood disease and you always know you've done something right when he gets that big smile Michael Does a lot more than adjust the position of Jay's head uh perhaps I should talk like this what if we lower this he wants to stretch your head back yes I was watching the is just why do you want to tell your story to me what do you hope to gain from doing so you have the very broad audience that I want as many people as possible to hear my story I really hope to have some mm sometimes in the middle of the night Jay is good at using his tablet to advocate for himself Jay got a care provider fired her about how he was treated and what happened and all the details and they obviously investigated it with the two carriers because they let her go the very next day a stretch your neck a bit okay is up and down yes that's easiest yes is to watch the eyes eyebrows go up and down in sixty two they treat me like a child really you have an Iq of sixty two you can go to your Stephen Hawking thing okay you can't do it that way I don't exactly remember what it was it was something to do with his body mechanics and she continued to hurt him and at one point jade had enough and he told her to f. off and she lost it she snapped up the tablet put it over to the side of the room and continued doing whatever mechanics Zyl's what happened to j after he complained and got this this individual fired well it was like a brand new hotel thing about you because you can't talk or write the first thing they assume that I'm deaf I get people every day yelling at me they think I'm not altogether they're mentally I have an I q quality office the concerns and complaints process gives us the opportunity to improve the quality of how we provide care and services changes the way people with

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Jorge Masvidal Exclusive

Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

56:47 min | 2 months ago

Jorge Masvidal Exclusive

"Hello friends it's year old pal area hawaii back with another edition of the hawaii show. Yes we have one on monday. Dc was off. I'd volkan off ski holland liane edwards on the program. Hope you check that out this time around. We are going one on one with game bread. Jorges mas vidal just a few days away now from ufc. Two sixty one goes down on april twenty fourth in jacksonville. Florida to be exact. It's loose mon- versus maswadeh to. I haven't talked to horry mas but all since last july since a couple of days after his loss men in abu dhabi last july and other was a lot to discuss with him a ton to get to so stay tuned for that. But before we get into all that as you know the nc double a basketball tournament is over. Congratulations to baylor. But there's just so much more college basketball news to discuss. And who better than the great douro. Seth greenberg and dan dockage to give you all the college hoops info that you need and crave these to give you the inside access to the world of college basketball on their podcast. Courtside with greenberg and decade. So make sure to rate review and follow courtside wherever you get your also as you know. Baseball is back blue jays. Doing well break said about that. You can watch all the games all season long on. Espn plus they have over one hundred and seventy live. Mlb games featuring every star and every team in the league so sign up right now over at espn plus dot com slash baseball. Lastly we are celebrating the third birthday of espn plus that. That's right three years of bring you all the hat tricks. Reporters thirty for thirty's ufc action pf l. action on the bad guy in so much more so celebrate with us today by streaming your favourite live sports originals and documentaries on espn plus. Thanks for joining us for the past three years. And if you don't have espn plus yet and something tells me you're listening to the show you do but if you don't it's not too late to join the party sign up now at. Espn dot com all right enough of all that time for today's program which does contain some language not be suitable for all audiences so as always listener discretion is advised. Enjoy a gentlemen them to Back in your life on this wednesday april seven. Two thousand and twenty one logan. Everyone welcome back to a brand new edition of the hawaii. Show america hawaii. Of course we got a special one today just one interview but it's an extended one. It's what the one and only or. Hey mas vidal. I spoke to him a couple of days ago as they said at the very top had not talked to him since july of last year and we really had a lot to discuss. Why didn't the nathan d as rematch happened. Why didn't the koby comington fight happen. How did he get this title fight. You know his his star dimming a bit since his his darling year of two thousand nineteen where he won. You know fighter of the year comeback for the year most improved fighter. I mean what a year that the only fought once in twenty twenty and a few things have happened. since twenty nineteen to to maybe alienate some fans. Three things in particular. If you ask me we address those three things so there was a lot to talk to him about as you have see to. Sixty one is rapidly approaching april twenty fourth jacksonville. Florida sold out capacity crowd. And i was really excited about the conversation. And i really enjoyed the conversation. I think he did a great job of explaining himself. I think he did a great job of representing himself. And i think you'll like the conversation as well so coming up in a matter of seconds. Is my one on one conversation with the number one contender in the one. Seventy division the one and only whore him as well. Who's about to enjoy his eighteenth year as a pro may fighter which is pretty remarkable. He has an inspiring story and It was great catch up with him once again but before we get to today's interview very quick word from our good friends over at modell. Oh modahl-less yeah you know what makes more dose special. It's brute for those with the fighting spirit. yes it's true. Expect anything less from the official beer of the ufc. Modell was the underdog back in the day. It came from humble beginnings and never gave up. Its boot from premium hops to create the crisp posner style logger which set the standard for authentic mexican beer. So next time you're tuning into of c. Fight card perhaps this saturday on abc. Make sure you've got the beer. That's always remote delo. How rude for those with fighting spirit triggers possibly importing took all right. Here's my conversation mazda. Enjoy for him and all it is good to see you my friend how are you. I am phenomenal. It has been awhile since we last spoke. I the last time we did. An interview was july of last year Just a couple of days removed from your fighting. It's kamara who's been so that being said we have a lot to discuss. There's a lot of ground to cover it. Here's the first thing i'd love to ask you. It seemed after. Use men's last fight against gilbert burns that we were headed in the direction of universes to but in august or september fact. You even told the media that when you were doing the cannella fight. Why are you fighting. April twenty fourth. Not later this year a so usually is. I told me that for months. You know weeks that we're finding that they won they to another completely changed and you can't find somebody in this company is more bound them especially when they're gonna pay my handsome fees you you can't you can't find a bigger dog so down opportunity to break this guy's face and i was thinking ahead. Housing man with sixteen notice and twenty pounds. A car i and did some damage from literally couldn't do anything to me because i'm so much more man in so i'm thinking sh thirty days. That's like times five. Yeah i'm a murderer sky from the time they announced it. You're getting a month and a half to prepare for this title fight. Do you feel like that is enough. Would you have preferred be in. August or september for a title fight of of five rounds. You want like eight to ten weeks you know. so you do. Certain things shouldn't executives not always the same training. But i'm finding use man. I m six days. I know what he has. I know what he could offer at his best in. You know one thing that. I'll take away from our first fight is that he's he's not as mean as he proclaims abuse thinks that he loves jiggle his on air like these terry crews and intimidate people. But he's not mean. I was in there with him. He's not a mean guy. I know there's no way if this turned around he stepped in there against six notice. That i don't do everything in my power to leave him unconscious or break his arm or just heard him. He's not that mean guy. So i don't feel that that any more than what the time i've been gibbons perfect it did seem like you guys were going to be coaches on the ultimate fighter on and obviously now. You're not. Was that something that you are looking forward to or ultimately you don't care ultimately i don't care to be set aside a cornball came the other guys is just gonna be he's all your mom's is and then i'm going to slap them one day and then they're gonna find me or something like that so i could care less if they were to pay what i was asking for different story than i than our coaching but That's you know that's water under the bridge now. Because i'm just gonna get the break. This guy's face. I wanted to know the coach ultimate fight. It's gotta go away from my family. Who knows that. This coronas implement some type of bubble. I'm not gonna not see my kids for an extended period of time. Because i'm on some shows from the start of it. I could care less than i just wanted to fight. And i'm just curious about how you view this on. It did seem like you have to sixty one was going to have to. Title fights bounty transplant versus just drudge. And then of course sean lee vs rosena munis to fantastic fights but then once. They announced that they were moving to jacksonville full capacity. They add your fight and then it sells out according to dana white in minutes. Do you think that they added your fight. Because they were moving it to a full capacity arena needed to sell out. Essentially i'm wondering if you're going to take the credit for. Its selling out as quickly as it did. Who else could secret for. It's not use man you know. What would it lasts. Do with Burns would use men do co. what hasn't been done period as far as sending pay per view or any of that road generating gates. I got a pretty good gate with me. And they only take full credit for that can made us and you know but that's a good one to be behind on the madison square garden. Shows you. I can sell gates. You know. Not people could say well. It's corona attack window. Jv metro sold out. Maybe maybe people wanna get a house or maybe people want to see the full violence at bring will find out. Are you disappointed. It's not happening in miami. That seems to be something that you really wanted. disappointed I've always said it. The road is my home. That's where i feel most comfortable. That miami would have been extra extra little things now. I have like my bus. Drivers son's best friends ongo texas retake retakes and so on and so on and join you know so it. It's already like a dilemma. You know in those tickets are sold out. Sorts of problem miami would have been the same or worse. Okay so now. Actually go back to august and september of last year because it did seem you just mentioned him nathan who of course november of two thousand and nineteen one that imitate right beat. The dog had the step in another man. Had to step in there. And say you can beat this guy no more because you're gonna kill him. It seemed like you guys were moving in the direction of the rematch. Around late summer early fall there were talks of you guys running it. This is before. I'm gonna go step by step here. This is before colby flatiron. Why didn't you end up fighting. Nathan as couldn't come to terms with. Ufc this nat- blah blah blah blah. I don't know. I don't. I don't know what goes on inside. We we try to make that fight happen. Mike camp was talking to his camp. It didn't happen. I don't know what the what the exact logistics. I didn't like the day he didn't. He may be thought about it. Even more guy is going gonna destroy my face again. You know maybe he wants to have a modeling career man. Do you feel like you. Own nathan d as an immediate rematch in the center at some point a rematch late. Say because he called you out the beam of title and it seemed like in the cage after that fight ended somewhat unceremoniously. You said you would run it back. So is this something that you feel at some point. You have to get back to him. I told him i'd run it back. Could believe that were running back. I don't know wins going to happen if it's going to be this year or the next fight right after i don't know but guaranteed were running back at some point. As long as he says. Yes i am more than when the british face his ribs and his spirit again. Okay and so then. Kobe comington fights turned woodley in mid september. And all of a sudden. It's like we gotta do horses versus colby then. It seemed like that was the fight that was going to happen. What happened there. Widened back into fruition. Kobe's the offered him good money and then the kobe deal was that we already knew. We had the houston fight. They they had already told me. Hey you have the fights. While i'm gonna fight the second-place guy that got his job. Broken left. running out of the ring didn't talk for months on twitter because he got his job broken. What fight the guy that broke his job. 'cause i've already been beating the crap out of cobra for god knows how long i'm going to beat the crap out of him to before my career's done but i'm gonna fight the biggest and the best possible then. I'll come down to these. Jv move in Koby it's like somebody that have really can't Really want to hurt the sky. In a way that i've never done you know like i wanna make. It seem like the fight was very merciful. Compared to what. I'm gonna do to kobe. Guaranteed that fight will take place. But when i the day so you know because remember who the kobe. He fought loosen generated. I think under the hundred thousand pay per views. What did he do with with woodley. He he just doesn't generate show. I'm gonna go get decidal. Keep generating more views. More knockouts more violence. And then i'm gonna take it out on kobe at some point long as he could win if you could win. He's dead just for the record. Where a wide you dislike him so much the start of it all is my coach and this is all on my credit right because kobe like wrestling exchanging techniques. I'm showing them how to strive you. Show me how to wrestle. He goes man. I would love to work with your coach so he works for my coach for about two months into my coach says locate going forward like i have at the time with dwell with numerous athletes is a handshake. He goes. I take five percent of what you make so if you make five percent out of a hundred dollars. Five percent of one hundred million dollars. That's what a charge in. Kobe said that he is of course for sure. Guess what when he actually had the chance to actually paying back some real money. When he fought dose angeles any fought for that belt. Guess what he did waiting. I don't know he stiffed them. Just like he goes around sniffing people just like you got kicked out of top team. And he's been kicked out of gyms and oregon stuff. He stiff my sad they on. I've been wanting to put my hands on my coach at wait. We're gonna get him in the ring. Don't do it for free. Don't do it for free. And there was a lot of a lot of that back and forth. And i was right. We'll get him in the ring. Bashing for life and i'll put the nail in that coffin show with kobe's the one person you know like obviously has dislike been aspirin and stuff like that kobe's at one person that i always say these wherever i see him. It's a free paper right there. You know and he knows that that's why he used. To make videos. Discussion profession you tried to fight ministries. I got kicked out of the gym. For china. Assault them on time in icy spots at the free and got the police called on me. And things like that. You know so I know not using menu. An idiot professional fighter. Why we do that. Because i feel like in. Nobody tells me to do knowing. It's more like loyalty to you. You can't do somebody wrong. That i love you know i. It's just not going to happen. Did you legit get kicked out of att. Because not now back they brought my ass back they. They both suspended as both our general chief and commander then have put kind of like a rule. Like if you don't have about agreement sign I don't want nobody talking crap that nobody in the team you know in kobe had said like numerous thing simulating. He's only had always like said a little puns here and there and i was just completely ignoring them. Like whatever you know. Just see you. When i see you rain blah blah blah. And then. i had enough one day. And i said something back than it got us both kicked out. I talked to dan about it. And then he was like right brothers He's gotta go bring you right back. You know where you've always been where you belong. Let the coward sink elsewhere. Have you seen him around town. Have you ever seen him since. Then colby you see him around yeah. Of course i've seen. I had seen him around that nobody would see them again. You know the day he goes missing. Police you're going to go was close. 'cause i heard they wanted you him to be coaches on the ultimate fighter before it was filed burns. That was the talk was ever close in your mind. That was never like an official targets. They're throwing things they want. Everybody's calling me. Everybody wants to fight me this thrown out numerous times me. Being a coach in the ultimate fighter. Kobus probably never going to happen. Because i was for sure gonna end up in handcuffs it just. It's not a play out. You can't pay me enough money to hear this idiot in. Not it's not happening. You can't pay me enough money to have to deal six weeks or this. I would have gone to jail for facts in trying to go to jail. I even heard that they were talking about you. Guys fighting each other in a combing event but five rounds which is something that's happening in may with nathan. Leon did that ever get you. If we're call main event were it's theorems unless you're gonna pay me five money fight so that was never really a thing. The thing was always gonna fight. Loose minute was never really made or korean. All these things were thrown in the air. And i hey this and that but we knew we were gonna get those men fight long behold i got loose fighting force would deserve it. He he went broke. Kobe's jaw kobe. Had ten weeks prepare from had the run out of the ring because he was sowing. Bearish small mom. Where's my mom had. The wrong is wealth mouth wired. Shut still can't get his story straight. You ask him that he break your john. He doesn't know what to say. So it's like damn. I beat it. S more than all these other guys on six notice twenty pounds of course get the rematch. So then we get to mid february and who's been fights burns. What did you think of his performance. That night comorros performance. You're going to get hurt when fight you watch this live. Did you watch your life. I didn't want to live but your takeaway. I'm assuming by now you've watched the fight yet. Yeah i saw like two days later. Okay so when you're watching takeaway as he's in trouble. That was not. he's impressive. the this is my craft. this is my jobs are once racers. I'm so intelligent and israel. That home need a note pad and paper. But i'm just like this when i'm watching and I took a lot away from it. You know he is literally the same guy that i fought right before literally the same guy. Now granted gober ran into his job in gilbert kinda gave up after that but To me as far as skill set goals hasn't improved anything in his will still the same guy like foes and gives them to his well. You'll ride that out. But if somebody comes back and fighting them in wrestling until he doesn't have him and he he don't have that many as showed when we fought on yet chances to throw blows with me because i was tired from wrestling nobody to keep hugging these awkward dancing with me rubbing feet with them. We're getting paid to fight in trying to rub fee cobra. What what. We'll see. What happens when i got a little more than six days to prepare for so there was a lot that was said about his striking improve striking things of that nature. None of that impressed you. I'd just see us incomplete different levels. Man it's like disrespectful to bring this guy in the striking aspect. I fine animals like e edwards caging nunes. This was like over ten years ago. Is it made a living off striking knocking people out. Who will never get their wish. Means never been there. I'm going to do the same thing i didn't. I fight but just had a much more violent page but we can't sand given he knows it you know. What did gilbert do wrong. The first shot because it did seem like he briefly rocked him. What did he you know what what could he have done to. Actually finish the fight. Easy as soon as you gotta take a non. He could've used all his will. All all has been in to get right back up. you know. He threw kick. Who's been caught. It took him down yet. Nothing you can do about that. You get right back up. He laid i think like a minute and a half on his back. Getting kicked getting punch will smith cleared up. His head cleared the cobwebs. If if gilbert would have given everything had at that moment to get up who knows if you started slugging within their while fresh not tired yet. Who knows if he catches him again in. Put them in the coffee. He didn't have it in them to get up. he just didn't want to get a fresh. I would have thought man. I'm i'm getting up. No matter what i'm going sock in the face but i think he got caught up in the maybe he'll come into my guard and also made him and maybe this maybe that all that may be happened and he stayed on his back for like a minute and a half from what i remember so then he wins and now i'd love to know what are you thinking when he's doing applied interview with joe rogan and you know typically or historically the champion doesn't call out someone especially someone that he beat but yet he made it pretty clear that he wanted to fight u next. When you hear this when you see this what are you. Thinking are going fi blah blah blah. But then he. He said some stupid things. He said that. I called myself. Jesus i i wanna see the clip where i said jesus i want to hear the signed backwards at. I'm jesusa never. Should jesus on never claimed to be jesus. I am a follower of jesus. I love jesus christ. But i've never said i'm jesus. So so he's he he's a it's not personal evert But i can tell you what if it was going to be personally. This one's pretty close just because he's saying things to promote the fight that are not true. Based on my religion and i just think fighters in general we should never get into the religion. I don't care what he worships. Who worships not my concern online. Talk about it and it should be the same thing. Don't talk about my religion. Don't say that. I say things that i never said because i'll bet you anything but you million dollars you can produce a tape where said i am jesus away the light. I am the never. There's no sound bite. Ob there's no. nothing street. Jesus thing i get have long hair. Maybe similar complexion and jesus and the internet's undefeated and people were thrown at the street. Jesus thing that's not. Jesus that's strategies i would never claim to be. Nobody's lord and sega. So i mean. I think actually trying to win over fans in the western hemisphere and stuff you know but it didn't sit well with me almond in more quick. You find out what about when you're called a street thug and things like that does that bother. You know those rooms. Julian i i wasn't i didn't have a the growing up. Did it in have a doctor for that. In a lawyer for mother didn't show. I did things that i'm not products of. Somebody says to me. A white my ashford. I don't give a damn you know but things like that like speaking of the religion kinda like over the to what happens. I don't give. All i know is that he's taken grunge pants. You know 'cause how. How do you fight me on sixty notice and you have no intentions to try to hurt me to to even land like a blow and follow up on your try to choke me or break my arm arm or something so i just know that he knows that i'm going to have gas for five browns and you're going to have to put up with that fucking insane pace of me. China just end from start to finish. He revealed recently that he broke his nose before the fight that he was fighting with a broken nose. Did you know that could you sense that. What was your reaction when you found out about that. I'm pretty sure the blow that landed broke his nose. But let's let's let's leave it up to whatever right. Let's say yes. wherever broke. his nose broke his nose. I just want to see the long list of excuses after we fight. It's going to be like. Oh but i was sparring with king kong broke my our orbital in a flash of and my really just want to see that this of excuses after fight so obviously is fought back in july. We know how the whole came together. One week's notice a lot of drama. But could you be honest with me now and in and you kept your cards. Very close to Happened how bad was that way cut. I saw the picture. I saw draped in the you know the towels on on the floor there but be honest. How difficult was actually get to. One seventy waco was talking and as you get older. It just gets rougher on when used to fight at fifty five years between like seventeen eighteen pounds. But i was in my twenties and it would hurt but i do it. I could recuperate wasn't a great feeling It wasn't it wasn't my best we could. I can tell you that much and The last three pounds. The cutoff took longer than the first seventeen. If that kind of gives you like a like a better understanding of how tough was but on as i stand right now like knights finished training renowned late nine pounds ago. So let's let's rock and roll so this is great for you. I mean nine pounds compared to what you went through this is always how how i am when it when it fight. When proper notice you know. At the time i was lifting weights i was. I wasn't doing specific fight trains because they didn't have a fight. I was trying to get a little stronger. Little heavy so heavy usually am as the san right now. Like hundred and eighty pounds a hundred and eighty pounds. Will you close to not making weight for the fight. Yeah when i got to like eighteen pounds. I started like wow. This hurts but i'll campaign is it'll mean nothing if i want their knock this guy out and not come home with a belt on gonna make the weight like a man. Because i've never missed a sign that dotted line. That's compete. i said something. i'm gonna make this way. I'm going to do the way you know. If not the national took the fight. That would have been like the coward. Way out. So i i made sure made the way in and gave him my best. Did you really have pizza in italy. I wish heartbeats in italy the whole team had beaten italy. You know. I did a little photoshop thing. This anatomy the internet. Go nuts but boy i wish i would have had pizza in italy considering the relationship between you and him considering the build up you know. There's a lot of drama leading up to that. And then all of a sudden this final weeks notice and everything explodes of the pay per view does great but the flight doesn't really pan out the way the fans wanted to and of course you don't win as well and i remember talking to like three days later and you were having french fries at the office. You were in good spirits but once the cameras went away and once you're alone and you're like damn i just lost to this guy and after all that ah got a week to prepare. How did you deal with the loss. How long did it take you to get over. It was depressed. The whole plane ride however long the plane ride back house. Eating as much as i could just depresses can be. But as soon as i got to miami. I went on like eight mile bike ride. I went to the gym. I jump rope. Hit the bag and immediately i felt better and i just said you know what i'm just gonna train because that's the only thing that keeps me from going into depression. I i've had like bad episodes before my life in the only thing that's gotta me out his mike kids in training you. So that's all they i did. I just hung out with my family in went to the gym and worked out. Dane down. do you mind telling me more about that. I'm fascinated by that like when when when were you at your lowest. When were you at your most depressed. i've had a bunch of bills like where where got you know you just depression. Are you down. Certain things that impact on the person on the pro and then they intertwine with each other just makes it worse makes him with no money. Because the uc's we all know a lot of the guys don't get hooked up your top ten guy in the world still have the have a part time job. This nasty like put all my eggs in his basket. All my energy into this. And i can't even provide from my family. No mixing with maybe some failure. Some personal problems i I didn't have the smoothest road always. But it's made me who i am now. It's made me that much stronger much better and much wiser so i wouldn't change anything about my pass it you ever imagined that you'd be making this kind of money in your career a year eighteen. You always believe that. I always believed that in my heart. I wouldn't wouldn't take no for an answer because i was beating up world-class guys in the ring. I was being champions in. The ring is just a matter of time. You know it's a. It's a lot of it. Like i always say happened next. What am i missing. You know all the missing because you remember i. I wasn't much of an interview guide. I'm still not much of an interview guy. You're my boys. Let's go to sue these interviews. You know i've got a couple other friends in the media that i'll do interviews with but i I was even more antisocial than if we rewind to like high school days i had like one friend in the whole high school to just as type of person i am not because i can't carry a conversation or having enough intelligent the doctor viagra just i was so focused and doing what i had to do that. I didn't care about other things. It's still the same way nowadays. Are i wanna do me. I don't i don't do anything else. I don't care what the war zone. When's the last time you watch that. Fight the first fight against us one week when you watch it when you see i see somebody. That's not mean versus. Somebody's very mean spirited as she somebody is content to just hold and rub my feet instead of somebody adm and i want to hurt him. Now i wanna give every single finding whether they love or they hate me getting their money's worth you know this is entertainment at the end of the day makes him with skill and stuff. You know so. No excuses you one. The first one cool beans will see how much of a different fight. This is the second time around infamous start to the end of it. Everybody will be like yep this was worth for the first and the second one thank you mash it up. We love you boozman q. Because you're the same guy who's gonna come to hug me and try to put me in the fence but it's not gonna work. This is just it's not gonna work out so the two big takeaways of course. Were you getting pinned up against the the cajun in the foot stomps. How do you avoid those move. Got some plans for that but the first thing is being in good shape no not having a cut a crazy amount of weight so i have my legs on american power me. I got my speed with me. Those things check check. Since i've brought him this fight. I started running right away doing the things. I'd do drought my weight. My weight is perfect. Show i. I am not worried about anything this guy does. Would it also be fair to say that you're expecting a better version of him because after all he did take the fight against you on a week's notice as well. I believe he was like eighty percent. You know why because not so much music that because of the traveling because of the time you know then he had to fight me last minute. Notice nice getting to prepare for me. You know so i. I definitely think. I saw him at his one hundred percent but i have seen him in one hundred percent another fights and more than anything haven't seen him at one hundred percent or not like i said it's not about the skill it's about the will of the person the dog in the person you know. There's a lot of other fighters that i probably wouldn't fight him on six day. Not because i'm like man. Those guys are mean if i'm not in shape and i'm a little bit tired. They're going to try to break my nose in her. Hurt me no loosens not. That guy's never been he's a coward. Do you feel like this. Is your last chance at a title. You have to win this fight if not. You're not gonna get another chance at the bell. I feel like every fight. I have to win. Every single fight But no i. i don't feel like at all. I just feel like i'm going to win this fine and continue to do bigger and better than before. I close a chapter on this enemy thing. I'm gonna do some incredible stuff some violent things that are gonna. They're gonna leave people in that moment. You know that aha moment dude. You have an end date in mind yet. it can't tell you. Yeah you have an age when you wanna stop. Yeah i got. I got it all time that we've had it all planned out for know i. I don't complain about injuries or age. But i am thirty six and like you said i've been doing this now. Seventeen going on eighteen professional years. You know it some. It's been the funnest roller coasters. Been the funnest gain. That's been the greatest movie. I've taken a role in the the best drug. I've ever gonna mean everybody's heard me talk about fighting much i love. I love what i do. That's still here. That's why i'm still in the uc. That's still compete at the highest level. Because i truly love what i do. I going to the gym. I still have a mind. I'm still learning things. Might conditioning coach breaks me down and condition. And i'm still a dog. i'm still getting after. I need all my practices that are required. I love what i do. That's why i'm still here but everything does come to an end. You know. I'm not gonna push my body to a place where now some up and coming bundy Even held my jockstrap. Two years ago of sudden can go into decision. When that's not gonna happen when my time comes in came. You know it'll be the hardest thing to walk away from the sport. But i've been preparing. I've been doing things for. When i'm done with the sport i could transition the something else that makes my the pump. You know you figure fighting when you're forty. I'm not gonna say no you know i have a lot of plans and goals in mind. I can't tell you none of them right now. Alligators at april twenty. Fourth is going to be violent and bloody but after that. I can't tell you anymore because you know you know may not me when the fight was announced for hey fans were like wait a second. He hasn't fought since the first fight. He hasn't picked up a w since the first night. Why is he getting this. We just saw this fight. What is your response to those people. Those naysayers shut the. I'm sure you saw that right. I'm sure you saw some of that right. Oh of course. I see it. I hear about a business that it's a it's the same as they were saying. He'd ended up the fight in the first time. A like i beat number at the time to was three Ben was number five. Nate had just beaten up pettis and he was like in the top. Five is well and people were in finish all guys in one calendar year. And they're all talking about all you know. I'd like to see management or more violence and that is always going to be hated. I if i take a picture with swollen so going to be a thousand people loving there's going to be a thousand people hating everything i do. 'specially this magnitude the whole world watching. Somebody's gonna not like it i. It's not you know it's not but i'll tell you what i bet you. Anything of watching. Because they loved me so much they enjoy the pictures. I put an instagram. No because i do my job and do it from here and everybody knows that what you love your haney. I'm gonna come the fight. Maybe not your favorite fighter but short how you put your money on me. Come to fight. None come to give him my art every exchange at every setting in the fight. 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You have to do all these things. So now this guy is gonna supposed to represent what might our community something boxing hale who the hell gave this guy and improve. The only reason is doing that is because i embarrassed him so much made him so famous for getting knocked out. Somebody else wants to do the same thing to the guy. But i just wanna make this clear for anybody thinks he is not a representation chain of mma in anyway juno sabre yes but for champ one championship. Champion guys in the ufc. How can you not say he's a reputation. I can understand you saying. His style was unfriendly but he did put in his time. He paid his dues. And emma may now yeah. He paid his dues intimate but to say to say that. Were sending that guy into boxing. It's not a fair representation of our sport at all. The guy can't throw a punch. The guy can't spell job. You'd like he can't. He doesn't have an income to produce forced to hurt somebody with his muscles. Get worship Get behind the sky in in any way shape or form against And plus. I can't stand benge. We all know it so i mean it could have been anybody fighting a motive of enlightening but now fair enough. I get that but you have. You had those feelings. But you've also aligned yourself with. Jacob actually trained with jake in this has drawn the ire of the community. How could you horry how can you. How can you align yourself with the youtube guy against the anime guy. Explain why you felt like this was okay. Well we had some mutual friends. We medical what times we hang out. You know i think might like the pictures got out. this immediately. People started telling me what to do right and this and that and you gotta understand something about me. Peer pressure doesn't work on me or people telling me with doing a negative way. Doesn't work on me so as soon as i started seeing that people started talking more about the called. Man you disgracing. I'm amazed. I guess what i'm inviting jake paul wedding. Be my best man that nobody tells me what to do it. That's only four tells me with do my mother because she could what my ass m further because i love him to death. That's the only people. Tell me what we started getting upset. Yeah get really upset. Because i'm a trained To not do that. I can't stand in any dimension in would i love to see ben get laid out again father talking to still continue to do is they. Hell you and if i could add to that knockout. Why not just just so bent thing like dan. Just maybe vidal shown in this or that led to my downfall count me. Count me in a lot of great. Boxers are saying that jake is legit fighter that he has legit skills. Tyson's app judah recently others while you were in there with him is legit i sparred. I've seen sparks do things. I'll tell you. What for his size man. He's got a hand eye coordination. Now can i say he's a jit hitting the bag. He looks moved hitting apache. Look smooth and inspiring. He's he's done some things that they look good but boxing's about fighting men so legit to what level like are you talking about him. Fighting zab judah known as you're not going to beat job judah but he's not beat the Legitimate can beat the dog adam. Now you know. Ben does have experienced. Ben could get him tired. Maybe fourth fifth round. Jake's never been in these areas things could happen. You know as long as you six. So what he's knows and does what he's supposed to do. I think he's a much better athlete than naturally. It's way harder than ben. 'cause i mean did you see the day my in binational fine. Uc that fine. The you see your face it. You just made everybody to saw that face you know. That's the same fight that i saw to it. It's just sorry. Ben maybe you gotta like die and be reborn in because it's not happening this lifetime you could strike you know i think jake knocks him out. I think jake beat some fairly easy. Okay but i think that about anybody has to hands is gonna fight bannon. Who's this guy going to be. Funding can't even he doesn't even have the technique and it's not so much that he just doesn't have the dna for he disrespect from. He said an innings striking. I don't practice striking. I just go in there and russell these guys while he said that his whole career whole life. It's true it's true. That's always what he's done so now overnight we're gonna learn how to box in just a straight boxing setting where you're not allowed to hold and take guys out. I don't think so migo. You were the darling of the anime community. And then there's the jake paul thing and then there's the the politics and all of a sudden i see the comments as like we want to see this all of a sudden like wow. This is crazy. How do you feel about the reaction to you. You know speaking out about things that may you know ruffle feathers that you know may upset some people. I'll tell you one thing. I don't think i was ever made to be famous. Because i can handle it but because i'm gonna make a lot of people late upset you know free could i'm not i'm not gonna bite my tongue not gonna not say what i feel my heart i on. I'm not gonna say everything. There's no about politics as in like that. But i'm gonna say since a very early age i've i've been in a very in like face to face reality with it. Seen it with my own eyes you know i. I've talked about this. Might my aunt was so desperate to get out of cuba that she crossed on landmine field to get to one tunnel. It's filled with bombs and her breasts exploded and she almost died but she got to guantanamo. They're able to get her paramedic saved. Why why why would you do what. Why would you or anybody. Rish on that minefield. When you know what's to happen in the only thing that i could think of was damn whatever you're running from escaping from has to be that bad that you willing to sacrifice yourself you know and shit i've been i've been in that culture my whole damn life i was born into. I only been around it my whole life. So how could. I not use a platform that it happened. Or if i had ten people or a hundred million people listening. I'm going to say what i feel is the truth. Were my father will. My family has shown them what freedom looks like. And i'm going to speak out on it you know as you don't mind If some people are unhappy you don't read that stuff at it doesn't get you like. Oh how did i. You literally could do no wrong in two thousand nineteen right. I mean you were like. I said time and to me like this crazy. More people aren't offended. Because i really believe that. I'm not everybody's cup of tea and i really believe that i'm gonna acquired tastes for those that have acquired because i'm just me i'm not i'm not you know all these fads going all these transit one and not everybody's doing the same thing on like instagram. You don't see me doing that or or everybody's doing some type of channel get more followers of you. Don't see me doing that. Because i don't feel i'm just gonna do what i do on a when the train and take care of my family and provide for my family to god if he down whatever four. I want to go anywhere in the world. I want and i'm going to do the things that made me happy. You know make my family. Happy the rest of the world. It's never meant demean an enemy set to get even more personal. 'cause i know interviews. They love it when my car. When i was sleeping in my car and i had like a broken window. Upper down in miami florida in pouring rain. I got my dog with meaning humid. And i have a practice five hours and i can't sleep because of the rain is in that with any of these people with anybody would even bought me a cheeseburger the anybody would ever done trimming so all these moments in my life have made me what i am who i am i i don't care i don i need your rodney that next guy's approval. I'm good at my conscious. What i do. I don't hurt people like that. Only in the ring and as god is my witness. I'm gonna keep doing me. It's crazy to hear you talk about living in a car with your dog and the window doesn't go up and it's raining and yet earlier in the conversation you said you did believe that you would make millions of dollars at some point. I knew since i was in that car. I knew since. I was in that car in. It's like to how can thirty two thirty in the fall. Tell you how so a whoever could. Here's grabbed this wisdom in because this where we're supposed to do is help each other out so grab this and in run with it. I knew since then you know why. Because i look at the The phone on my man. I wish i could just fall asleep so high. You'd like sticky. Your hair stuck to your face sweaty. And then i'm like man. I know i'm going to get out of here because i wanted to. I'm just going to get to whatever to couch. Tried to get to a couch at a better place. I'm going to get to the collagen soon enough practicing. I know it wasn't my best because they didn't get good sleeping. Cbo level was emerging ribs. All night long so like a little bit stiff. And i'd go to practice. I'd give it a gotten with that kick. Somebody's ass or gama ask. I knew bitchy up shona. They went through what i went through and show enough most of them when it guess what i kept doing it and kept doing it now eventually. Six seven months later. I got another car now. I'm sleeping fulltime. Guess what people have in the gym and it just keeps going and going and going. And what's that boss or shorting specially for me. It's so easy for me to focus on on what i'm doing on myself and literally the world you know i i don't care you know shine new i would get here. I knew that this moment would have and nobody could tell me nothing. You could have told me in the car you could knock them the behaviors give despite himself. Look where you're at look what you're doing. Why why are you doing all capable of thank you buddy. It's incredible so considering that considering that journey what do you think it will feel like when you get the belt on april. Twenty four th and how will you celebrate. Have you thought about this dreamed of this. Get that feeling of being crowd because they know how much it means to you. Being crowned champion. I've only dreamt about this off. What did he is sixty five days times. Eighteen years seventeen years actually longer. When i was like twelve thirteen years old when i was like. I'm going to be a world's greatest going to be the world's best is it's all gonna doing in that state you know. So i i've dreamt of this moment. Allo- i i. I don't know exactly how i'm going to celebrate or what i'm gonna do. I normally be eating of food at some point. You've actually visualize like that moment when they put the belt around your waist. Yeah i've i've i've seen it just like i see right now. I've seen it in my head. That's one thing. I got really good as i could. Visualize really good. And it's helped me to get to well matt so i definitely have seen that moment like i said a lot of times in my head member and just a couple more speaking of evacuate always time more. Hey speaking of visualizing just map out like you beat. What's so fascinating about this to me. Is you'd be camario. You have winning massive rights when you be kamara okay. My bad you have three massive fights on the horizon. There's the trilogy of course which will make a lot of sense right. There's the colby fight which i don't know how to fight. He has a contingency of who note. Nobody watches I want to beat him up on a personal level. But let's get something straight signed a massive fight. It's not a winner. I'm going to sell out pay per views. But he's not a drawn in any way or form it. You can't even headline every lighting up a champion. You can't even be on a paper. They gotta do it on the free. Because kobe doesn't draw so it's not a massive fighting tomorrow. Like i want you up so therefore thus you up but it's not a massive fight and it's not just say what you would say mean maybe like leonid Massive nobody that. I go to his hometown. And they're asking me for pictures. Don't nobody know them me. And they d is the massive fight you know what was going to get to or the winner of leon versus nathan is i mean one of those three. In my opinion. You can't go wrong. Which option do you foresee happening. Which option do you like this. I foresee that as long as they win. They do whatever after. I get the belt that i baptize them on that. And the my leave him unconscious blood in in very very hurt you know not one of those guys is going to get nothing off on me and i have a little bit of respect for the is a lot of it. Actually but then he started. You know doing to fight or stuff. I never i never saw this individual. Nothing then he started calling me on twitter. Because i'm fighting for world championship and he's playing with his doom. God knows what so. I didn't take kindly does things in any also said something like i thought about quitting in in. What universe was that. Because he said i thought about clinton's fight because i'm on top of them punched in the face and then when i got up i put my hands like this over my head because yeah it was a little wind at the moment from beating the crap for fifteen minutes so it doesn't bother bothering. I'm very competitive pressure. But there's certain things you can't see have never quit in fifty pro fights. I've never quit. It's never been thought process of mine. Nate diaz action tapped enough. I i've never tapped in a fight. Never been knocked out is just not inadequate. I'm i'll go to the have nothing. Nothing but i won't quit. You know that quitting shop that paints self man. I've been to so much worse. I've been so many more things in my life that it didn't break then there's no man ever that'll break mainly occasional when nate said that i was like i gotcha. Don't worry we're gonna fight. And i'm going to bear. She even worse so tomorrow koby mate. Leon who would be the top guy in your opinion for the first defense man. If i can find them all in one night i really. I mean this sincerity give less but maybe not give us. Because they're all going to get it at some point you keep saying his four there for. Yeah how off orlov get it. You know one way or another. Some of them have already got kobe's been getting it for years and i remember beaten. This guy's ass in practice had hit him with body shots. He takes gloves off. Coaches mcmahon shane pregnant. Try to lead. Run to the log on the same thing. He did so I wouldn't mind reminding this individual. Who daddy is you know fair enough. A final question for your. Hey how do you win and do my favorite. When you see that canada's dooming fate when you see that cow that fragile be like hey look right now. Is the hague mashed Issue he said He's your daddy's is true and see what he says he see high reaction you know his. He knows what that is in. Who are you referring to just for the record that fragile that everybody you know that. Do the random the do the ran out of the cage when they broke his jaw. Low fragile asset goes a mess with awesome. Watch use your daddy honey. Feel about that man. He looked me in my eyes. Myzone said that he drew. Daddy how do you feel about the. And why is he saying such things like that. Ask them used to get the better of him. Getting the better of him is not is not like like way to put his. Just ask them. You know what was a little bit deeper than just being. Somebody's asking practice okay. Interesting how do you win. On april twenty fourth violently. What do you visualize. E she violates. Its you gotta give the people what they want you know if vows a basketball player be doing allah koby jordan. China put fifty points on. Somebody's face in my sport. You separate yourself from the pack by violence by somebody close as possible to death as you possibly could for her thank you. I appreciate it all right. So like i said. I really enjoyed that conversation. I hope he did as well. Great stuff i love those extended conversations. I appreciate forgiving me some time and i'm looking forward to seeing if he can write the wrong of This past july against the one and only qamar hussain the nigerian nightmare on april twenty fourth of course on espn plus pay per view. We got a ton of mma of course between now and then wednesday night for listening to this on wednesday. We got the return of dimitrius johnson at the return of eddie alvarez on the first one on tnt card. That's wednesday night. After a w ten pm eastern we got bell toward returning this friday ryan bater against the ultimate cheetah to the start of their light heavyweight grand prix list. Car moosh against vanessa porto. I'm looking forward to that. Cats and gano returning as well so check that out on friday and then on saturday. We've got as i said. Ufc on abc to marvin vittori against kevin harlan again. Check on my conversation with kevin holland. Mondays podcast big fight at one hundred and eighty five pounds big fight for vittoria big fight for holland. Who's trying to get back on track after the loss to derek brunson by the way just the third fighter in recent emma his recent ufc history should say modern ufc history to headline two shows within three weeks. The other two Michael bist being did it against gsp. And then calvin gasoline and then of course very recently davison figueredo did it. Not that long ago when he fought alex present than brandon marino. So here's kevin han. I'm doing or at least trying to do it. Visting did coming off a loss. Bist being lost that fight gasoline holland. Of course trying to win against moore matori also in that card arnold. alan again seduce yusef. I'm looking forward to that. The return of julian marquez. On the cars. Well kinsey dern. Mike perry jim miller on the prelims. So there's a lot to like on this card. Jack shore undefeated probably the best fighter to come from cage wars and sometime prelims start twelve pm eastern on espn and espn plus and then main car three pm eastern on abc any is pm plus also after the card. You got wrestlemainia this weekend two nights. I'm very excited about that. My kids are gonna watch. We are all very pumped and speaking of wrestlemainia had an interview last week with roman reigns. Who's headlining sunday. Nights card from tampa This morning we posted on the espn mma youtube channel. A conversation with biggie. who's the intercontinental champion. I had no idea he was such a big. Mma fan like a real hardcore fan watches all the stuff. Listen installed the stuff. Reads all the stuff. This guy knows his stuff. So if you'd like to hear celebrities other athletes talking about him. It's a really fun conversation. Check that out on the. Espn may youtube channel. Also i have an interview up today with patricia pit bull. Who's the reigning defending bell tour. 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B2B Start-up Sales Lessons, Mistakes & Best Practices

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B2B Start-up Sales Lessons, Mistakes & Best Practices

"The world is changing at a rate like never before so why isn't education strayer university is revolutionizing higher education to help you finish your degree we make transferring credits simple create binge worthy course content that keep view engaged and design A._i.. Powered tools to help you graduate welcome to the future of Education strayer university out with the Old School Square University certified to operate by chef. Welcome back time to grab a board swim out into the Sea of ideas and see if you can't catch away has sales pipeline curls up over horizon here with the man who's been doing it longer longer than I had no idea this is the man who just celebrated his tenth anniversary and Business Ladies and gentlemen. We're talking about. We'll see we get the applause thing up here talking about about Mannheim's folks I was privileged to be asked to submit a video. I did it half awake sitting up in my bedroom here and I thought later everybody else like so professional. Socal had so much whittier things. It's a say boy. I WANNA do over here. Well now. I I really appreciate you do this. As realistic last Saturday the are ten year anniversary business. It was my first day officially quit my job and had my first Business Day as times marketing and it was exciting terrifying and I can I can I can I say later it's still versions of exciting terrify my assistant into Migraine Assistant Cheetah she surprised me with C.. Basically stepped onto people that we work with people that were associated with partners in front of the business over years to do short videos <hes> compiling university as you know. I mean you the following I i. I'm not a big self. Promoter was a very uncomfortable time sitting sitting in the room with a team in watching those videos but it was you had your mom and you had your sister our all these people part was actually we publish this online the publicly on purpose because there's a video that my white did and she has three kids behind her and our kids are five five seven and nine and so there you know there if you have young kids like they are legally poke at each other and everything the video volley by like shoe saying something in the kids are sitting there still an almost the exact axeing time seven or eight seconds in they all start whittling at the same time and they've all different things they're doing and I had to go back and watch it again to actually said because we're all just left and I love I. I saw the same thing and I love the part where she's giving you this heartfelt heartfelt. Hey congratulations honey. She's slapping. One of the kids like stop it. All the Imam can do those two sincere and scary at the same time here <hes> oven our youngest was literally buddy hi honey. We're proud of you. Stop that. Sometimes you know we will start the program qualitative ball we will not be one of our guests who is in Ohio state amounts that we wanted to revisit this past week call police. The most painful Michigan Memory I have is a U. OF M. Grad here. Oh my goodness for sure and you're GONNA do that. We talked about headbutting five year olds but anyway for those of you still listen. Thank you for joining sales nightline radio we are here. Every week lied eleven thirty Pacific to Thirty Eastern. Thanks so much for those of you joining us live on the following media radio network live from work for that you listening to the podcast thank you so much of subscribing you can find us wherever find caster available on youtube onto Google play store style stitcher and others and for those of you are listening to you on us from the demanded. It's Goin' radio our past president future episode is available sales pipeline radio DOT com every featuring some of the best and brightest minds in B.. Two B. Sales Marketing today is absolutely no different. I'm really excited to have Jillian usage joining us today. <hes> have a serial entrepreneur. She is co-founder of Mas that you do anything relates militant to S._E._O.. search-engine management you know Ma is his become. A startup whisper sought after speaker in council for companies all over the World Jillian. I'm arief appreciate you taking some time to join us today. I'm delighted to do so and I enjoyed hearing the story of having family <hes> in all kinds of an opportune places or inopportune places. Certainly I know something about a family business. You do such a little bit on that as we get him but I think your your background but you you've been running businesses for a very long time when you spent years kinda running outlines less says as a as a marketing and advertising company <hes> before getting into modern some adventures talk a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey like. Did you know you wanted to be a business owner from the beginning are doing accidental entrepreneur out of that really <hes>. I make a very bad employees. I think people knew that when I was three three or four <hes> I don't take direction well and I don't suffer fools easily so that doesn't make for real good middle management <hes> but I <hes> fell into entrepreneurship I guess <hes> Back Password <hes> and I we did so because my husband was a Boeing employees and that's not a culture where you sing combine on you. Fail fast and fail often <hes> it's a very rigid <hes> the corporate culture and it must be an I'll share a little story about why there was a very famous speech by the President of Boeing commercial to the entire <hes> commercial portion of the company at an event that celebrated one of their anniversaries. I don't know seventy fifth eightieth or something like that and he said if we aspire aspire to the same level of perfection of performance as Federal Express Ninety nine point nine seven percent perfection of delivery of our product we will kill only one million people per year go make planes right so sale fell fast fell off and not going to happen <hes> a rigid and militaristic society absolutely but that meant that one of us had to be you know listening in flip around and the other one had to put one foot in front of the other there and go do their thing so I raised three children under my desk <hes> I was glorified unemployed <hes> but when you say bye bye on the telephone it's time for you to talk to something. That's over three years old so I went to work and that's what I did. I did carry sorry my children in arms with me. <hes> they grew up literally under this desk. The youngest will tell you the color of the blanket. He slept on under the desk. He's still remembers <hes> and I kept those so delightful but over time they grew up they went to school all and they grew so to the company. I had a small regional marketing firm. <hes> you know it was not much of anything so this was small entrepreneurship lifestyle business in the highest sense of the word literally designed to <hes> how you say. To occupy rather than to bring in the series paycheck <hes> while somebody else did that sort of thing so <hes> for a long time that was the case in nineteen ninety four I became involved with market link international and it was the first International Commerce Center on the World Wide Web. The web was about two weeks old so I was drawn of Internet marketing because I was there for seconds before the next guy really we were so full of ourselves we scan business cards in full color and pop them on that fresh new web but by the time we were finished we had real time live translation between international traders here in Seattle where I'm located and in Beijing or anywhere else in the world and there was no babble fish there was no google translate slate none of that it was live translators and I thought I was smitten. People who communicate people who get to know and understand each other you could see the expression on the face you could hear the timber of the voice and understand what was being said and you could trade what an extraordinary thing we do not kill those with whom we trade only those we don't understand and those that we fear fear comes from the unknown and at the same time my children were playing sonic the hedgehog games he's like that dog and Singapore and in Seattle and I thought this is the next best thing to world peace. This is what's going to make it happen. It will be a lot harder to put a gun in these young boys hands and say go kill. Are you crazy. I play games with him on Saturday night so the communication was the thing that struck me and it still gets me up in the morning and puts me down at night. <hes> random joined the company BRANDIS my eldest son for those of you who don't know much <hes> it's ranch Michigan and he is known as the wizard of Mas <hes> and he joined the company in Nineteen ninety-seven while he was still at the University of Washington and we built consultancy and over time the consultancy altered and became much more <hes> associated with S._E._O.. Than it was with the General Online or digital marketing and finally into tools which became known as moth story and I love the intersection of work in family the fact that you know those really weren't wasn't really didn't sound like work life balance it sound like the release of a work life mixture. What's your perspective and I think about this myself? A lot father of three who has three kids are still in grade school and balancing causing you know running a business and front to spend time with family. <hes> you know there are you can't compartmentalize those things from what I have learned. What you have advice for you know for anybody even if they're not entrepreneurs is trying to manage a career and manage a family emily along the right balance between the two yes <hes> I spent a great deal of my adult life running that kind of business only a really relatively small portion running scalable corporations <hes> and in that lifestyle business I would say the first thing is to figure out what you're rudder in the water is and I would say the same to a scalable corporation so for me? The rudder in the water was that I had elected to have children and if I'm going to have them I might as well tend to them right so rather than and farming them out <hes> often or a great deal that doesn't mean you never do because they should be socialized as well <hes> and that's good. Do you need time as well <hes> I would do things like rent officers close to the schools where I wanted them to attend <hes> I drove quite a way to bring my children to schools. They were public schools and we had choices about where we could bring them but I had to make the trip but you know there was no school bus or anything so for us. It was about finding out what was optimal for the children. I had elect to have and then <hes> to be available to them at all times. One of the things that helped me greatly was that cell phones came along. I had one of the very first one it looked like the old phone that would hang on a wall large rectangle but it was disembodied from the wall it sat between the front seats of the bench seat of the station Wagon <hes> and you would click the side and handle would come up that looked just like those old t telephones attached to the box and so on and you would speak so quite an extraordinary extraordinary device <hes> but the phone number is the same phone number that I have today. <hes> might children's say that my cell phone is surgically implanted into my ear and they know it. I know it and they can always reach me and to this day. It doesn't matter if I'm doing a billion billion dollar emanate deal if my children call who are now adults if they call they get through and if you don't like it we don't do business together so that was my how should buy stake in the fans right. The rudder in the water is that my priority was going to be family and when that was done my priorities could change right but having elected that then elected to be a consultant and elected not to grow the company until the point where they were often on their own. Not Everybody has that leisure there are entrepreneurships opportunity and entrepreneurships of necessity and I want to be mindful to those who are listening those of you who are building entrepreneurships of necessity. My hats are off. That's a much harder road to help while Greg comments loves conversation so far. We've got Jillian usage. Who's The C._E._O.? co-founder of outlying ventures she also co-founded S._E._O.. MAS which most of you may know now as mas it is it remained Jillian right now. It seems it seems like a slam dunk. Mas Is the system of record for search marketers worldwide. I have to imagine that when you and ran decided to start building mas it wasn't necessarily as much of a sure thing how how what went into deciding how to go from doing what you describe this sort of original marketing organization into some meeting a product of that and what lessons you could those implied for companies thinking about similar they can so most of the people talk about the successes and it always looks really cool that hockey stick you know he kind of putter along and then suddenly boom. Here's the deal that's the short end of the hockey stick that you're looking at and the rest of it hidden. If you go backwards into the left you'll find there's a really long hockey stick that goes that way and much of it is very bent and misshapen and falls into the ground and into the mud and into things that are worse than mud and finally came him up and then you've got that little hockey stick so I'm just saying it's a tougher road than people tend to talk about rand is very open and honest about this and has written a number of things including his book called lost and founder the complaint of the <hes> founder <hes> and I have the same obviously been very honest about it. There are a number of powerpoint decks people can find on slide share and so on that are testament but we've discussed it was a long difficult road <hes> at first it was simply that T- joins me as you know a marketing firm you know one of my website but he want to buy another one. We've got flash now ooh but he wanted by another website because it turns out in one thousand nine hundred seven that the pages of the web shall be organized by <hes> search engines and the search engines don't read flesh so we went through the whole iteration back and forth and dumping down all the games to play but in ninety-seven it became evident right. That's when kind of the major search engines <hes> started to show up and the landscape began to define itself until. Well done it wasn't evident so <hes> beyond that so <hes> we worked through in kind of services industry brand was searching for what he would like to create in this brand new web <hes> which was as he described a universe unfettered by the laws of Math Athen time <hes> extraordinary that we got to be alive into populated at that time <hes> so that was great but then in two thousand one. Nobody wanted to buy website for love of money so I went out to make the rainfall now I had you know three or four employees. The kids we're off their schools ranch was already and the Dalton could join the company and so on and he continued to go to school that time <hes> and <hes> I went out to make the rainfall and I heard the same thing again and again you know we have no more capital expenditure. We'll see you in this is over. Dot Com bust was pretty tough right and I saw dozens of me going down in flames something from salt snake oil and deserve to but some of them were honorable competitors. It was a very scary time and every now and then I would here well. I don't have capital expenditure but have operating capital. Bring me buckle. Give you a corner off the dollar well. I know what that is. That's commission sales online. I didn't even have the words affiliate marketing to wrap around it but I'm a quick study so I figured it out and in those days particularly there were only only four wish to make money in affiliate marketing porn pills casinos and ringtones. I'm sure there were a couple of others and people who did it probably will correct me budge that was pretty much the the landscape and I thought well. I can't play that game it. It's not say ethical decision a moral decision. You know it's a business decision. This is not a world that I occupy I am not the person has say that races in where angels fear tread but these so this bill you know the industry's not just the business but the industries that built the web it wasn't built by Dot Gov Dot Org Dot e._d._U.. It was built by porn. Pills and Pacino's P._p._C. stands for something else. Since it wasn't my space I thought well now I can use the model and I can bump it up and make a rupture project and we sent out about thirty requests emails to companies where we thought they have very strong brick and mortar companies and they suck online and that's the technical term so <hes> yeah we we did that and we said basically that we would you know design an author and building development market maintain this website for nothing and in the event that we bring them a dollar. That's the dossier we would take a corner off that dollar and so we negotiated those deals and when that happens you have to pick your customers as carefully as you porcupines mating right I have to get into that financial shorts and figure out what they were doing. Did they have of customer service policies however turn policies. Could they expand. Would they get enough capital to grow if we grew them. I mean we could grow companies six hundred eight hundred thousand times by expanding onto the web and of course there is whereas biggest saucers but you had to be sure that it was the right partner we did about three or four of those one of them was disastrous at a time when I was deeply in debt already because remember we were building all these websites now for nothing but I was paying the middle still right so now I was deeply in debt and <hes> creditors knocking at the door. It was a terribly ugly time <hes> at that point. I had to turn back one of those projects. I should have known entrusted my gut so maybe that's one of my hottest tips to listeners. Do Trust your gut. The fact that we don't know how it works does not mean that it doesn't and you will know when you should not be engaging with a customer when that trickles you will know just don't and in this as it was somebody who sold <hes> those kind of your miniature cameras and so on they were you know spy cameras if you will and and he had all kinds of good reasons why they would be in commercial structures and you know for general security things no it was ugly and awful as you think it wasn't. He didn't have good practices and he was B._S._A.. Nas and everybody else and finally just gave the whole project to them and he took it away and whether he made money with it I don't know but it was a great loss. It was many tens of thousands of dollars you now that had been spent to do this and we had to cut loose but it was I wanna hear the rest of the store but we do have to take a quick break and read Nestle sponsors. We got a lot more. I'm so excited this like we're getting history lesson in the evolution of business by the way we actually works as well as the evolution of the web we we'll be back in a couple minutes with more with Jillian music. You're listening to sales pipeline radio. I hate to even intruded so interesting but I wanNA remind you that but <hes> there are a methods in ideas and companies out that can help you for example if you're tired of sending sales emails and wondering if there ever opened there's an answer you need male tag. Male tag is a chrome browser extension in for your mail g mail that allows you to track your emails in real time you received alerts right on your desktop as soon right away as your emails are open and as a special thank you for anyone listening today to the show. We've teamed up with male tag back to provide you guys with a special discount just use the word hines H.. E. Z. and you can get drum roll fifty percent off for life. Yeah we said for life half off. 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IT encompasses the entire sales and marketing cycle but in quick quick bursts with lots of specific actionable ideas strategies tactics you can put to work right away like today the loaded table of contents helps him narrow in and tackle a problem and it's something can come back to over and over again as a reference guide why not download your free copy of the modern marketers field guide. It's free hines marketing dot com just like it sounds H.. E. Z. Marketing Dot Com all right back to matt and his fascinating guest. We need a much longer so Paul. I think so I'm sitting here just in amazement I I'm just enthralled issues just spinning this yarn here and I'm thinking how are we going to some this up in two or three minutes here taken I was going to be the filibuster episode Radio but this is absolutely fascinating and really appreciate about your story. I know I mean this is what ran has done as well Boston founder and I read that recently super. Super Good Book <unk> kind of become famous for complete transparency the process and I think anyone has run a business or tried to run. A business knows that hockey stick feeling in some people never get to that short end that actually goes up but just it's a lot of chewing of gladness along the way so probably cut you off on the story than we do have few meditate before you have to wrap up with Jillian usage. She is the CO founder of Mas she is. The Co Founder C._E._O.. Outlined ventures the main last week. It must be where <hes> blocking newer you were talking about spiking owns. Yes <hes> so I guess the short of it is <hes> that the the hottest tip is again. Trust your gut you know whom you should get into business and which ones you have to pass up have a rudder in the water know what's important to you in life and what you will prioritize and how that will change over time and then finally <hes> kind of the end of this story you know we <hes> <hes> did well with some of these projects and <hes> one did extremely well and you know brought us out of debt bit by bit and I began to breathe for the first time in five years and then it was time to make these websites <hes> found found on the website on the World Wide Web right because it was ecommerce it meant that it had to be found by grandma by everybody and if not you wouldn't make any money and so I- farmed with money I didn't have again I farmed out the project checked and <hes> we're literally weeks away from total disaster and nothing was working and none of these either companies are individuals could get that S._E._O.. Done and finally rancid. I guess I have to learn this and I said yeah because I can't hold it together anymore more with shoelace and bubblegum and so he did and with money we didn't have again I got one more credit card with a few bucks in it and I sent him New Jersey to hang with his grandfather. <hes> my husband's father who is a world class mathematician and to this day at the age of ninety-one he will still say I have no idea what the application was but I was happy to explain the mathematics and what ran did was to find pieces of the algorithm that had been published by Google in order to get their patents. He began to dig into this hard slogging work that said not here's an algorithm. How do I scan the system to be number one but rather my company or my client is if you will? I don't know the University of Washington Dot E._D._U.. Right in other words something where you're not going to scam the system to be number one blackout S._E._O.. But rather you're making it commercial quintessential Whitehead S._E._O.. And that's what rand is known for today. It just meant it again. It was the customer murder client they had to be in that phone book so the next thousand years so the business decision was made he went and he found out what was needed and then he came back and he said all right. I think of GOP this. I know what needs to be done. In those days you could move the needle title and turn the dial in just a few minutes. It was a simpler algorithm into simpler time it was Thanksgiving Day and <hes> let's see two thousand six and I was pulling Turkey's out of the oven and serving both family and all of the people who worked for us and everybody was hanging around and the first sales came in for one of the companies and it was shoe store dot net and at that point that was a hoop and a Holler because the east coast had finished the Turkey dinners and they began to shop so it was very exciting day and we realized that we were beginning to move up in the search engines the queries were being founded you know found our websites and so on and things started to move and we survived but truly by the skin of our teeth so an extraordinary story and a great deal of luck. I get that but also hard ingenuity not <hes> you know just really difficult work not just the Durant is a really bright guy and he is no question but also that he showed up during those very very hard years from two thousand three through two thousand six ran Broda blog called the S._E._o.. Mas Dot Org blog right and that's what created that personal reputation that also moved to the corporation operation we can create personal reputations much more quickly than we create corporate <hes> reputations so if you're doing this individually think about that. How will you do that and there is no shortcut way? It's the hard work consider that ran wrote at this blog every single night with lots of research and great care and thoughtfulness right he didn't just slapped the stuff together and telephone it in and he did it for more than two thousand and One Nights Sheherazade as if his is life depended on it while I love the story of the hard work when the resilience and the challenges and I mean it's it doesn't always work everybody but certainly worked well for you. Guys I now you know Pol his used. Some Iran's rains work for PODCASTING S._E._O.. Over the years you know rans you know certainly some used it to to continue to sort of building businesses and I loved it. The majority was story that you told today is about the struggled to get to a path to the beginning getting of that sort hockey stick. It reminds me a little bit of <hes> Phil Nights Books Shoe Dog which is about you know the hockey stick. It's about the path to get there in a million times almost out of money in business partner. I'm over insisted that's that's the path it. It's not answer ever I gradually around the time we're going to have to let Paul on shows in the funnel via radio network here. This has been phenomenal conversation with Jillian new sick. We're golf links to <hes> to her her website to Iran's book at Las Founder in the notes. We're also going to put a link in ashes unprovoked investment. Just you're just your just the impact you how would you children's welded inspirational to me not live. What rand is done but you're Donald? You posted a couple of days ago. I'm probably going to pronounce this wrong but she she is the Phantasmagoria Chef and doing the event. If you're in Seattle in you WANNA have great food in a very unique experience <hes> we'll put that in the link in the notes as well but we unfortunately thank you so much for for your time for your energy for your stories appreciate it very much. You can find this episode again on demand here in a couple of days on sales pipeline radio DOT COM for my producer Paul. This is not hard. You've been listening to sales all cyclone radio. You Wear indeed surfing along on sale five line radio right here in the funnel radio channel for at work listeners like you by our T. with caffeine from green tea leaves. It's delicious energizing and comes in three amazing flavors with zero sugar and four calories it fit your life with its comback size and portability. It goes where you go to the campsite. 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426 | News from the EDGE | Week of 6.7.2021

Edge of the Web

27:35 min | 2 d ago

426 | News from the EDGE | Week of 6.7.2021

"Welcome back to the edge. Mas has been acquired by eye. Contact another headline that recovering. Google doesn't rank pages and posts differently. What's all that about. And have you noticed the june twenty twenty one core update. It's coming is here. it's possibly affecting your site. You're listening to news from the edge for the week of june seven. Twenty twenty one here on the web radio from the edge of the web studios. Here's what we're looking at this week. This is your host. Aaron sparks of sites strategic week. We bring you amazing guests chat with about trending digital marketing topics and seo news of the week or covering that plus all the digital marketing news each and every week separately from our weekly interview. Podcasts here edge the web radio. You're getting more news to you as quickly as a can of this one came a little bit late because you know what the internet disappeared from our bloody studio. Yes they and monday. So we're back. We're broadcasting. We actually lost a bill slavsky on friday. So what the heck and the whole the whole fastly. cdn thing. I know the whole internet the whole department. You know what didn't fall apart wicks wick sites. Didn't they moved to another cd automatically really because they have that entire backup process. Ready ready to go a moment's notice little plug what i do. A little grits paycheck. Wow that plant wick seeds everywhere You know i'm dropping pellets. Wherever i go like interests that you can get this basically grab a hold of somebody sentence in insert wicks here right basically. Now i don't think so. I don't think so as long as accurate and the host doesn't mind by the way i think i do. Oh sorry we can edit that out. Yeah no i think I think everybody knows by now. I think this is happening. All right so check out. The reason shows and videos over edge of the web radio dot com. So we're rolling out our podcasts on a weekly basis as well as our youtube videos on a regular basis to check out everything over it edge of the web radio dot com. This is the site. Strategic news desk of the web joining me preemptively is the pellet dropping never been described dropping before larry go the mutable pella dropping. Maurice oberstein so am i supposed to do not talk while you're doing your intro of course crazy who right. I don't know. I don't know the do so Morning here is as a liaison at wicks. Maurice actually going to be jumping in and taking the host for a couple of weeks here as i meander off into south carolina world. So thank you for joining us. Thank you for not destroying our show. I will try. I will try greatly not destroy things. thank you. Thank you very much now. You do have that mute button jacob. I'm just saying that normally just on me. Oh gosh there's only one those either jacob or me. It's the coin who can afford another bud all right all right. So what's going on you world. You sound like you've got a cold stick. Yeah my kids have been sick for a week to age. Who had a forum in sick for a week and as a gift they decided to say here. Take this and enjoy it exactly. That's the benefit of having kids. They come home with th. They're like little even scientists with their waxed. Mustache is coming in lick doorknobs and this that and the other it's gross. It's i tweeted out the other day or today when depending how you look at it recording today when this drops who knows right i gave my kid a bag and a thing of tissues and said when you're done with the tissues put them in the bag and it's all on the chair in the bag at a single one. Oh my gosh you think he did have in spite no just just just their nature loved. Meet these kids. Whenever they grew up that they have a lot of personality the amount of him he has all right all right so hopefully get better here soon and don't sneeze on the mike all right. Thank you all right so our first article is from search engine. Roundtable i contact now acquires mas. The financial details not too close but promises a bright future so on friday. The news broke that ause. The mas has been acquired by contact Contact subsidiary of j two global The final details about the acquisition were not disclosed. This came to a shock to many. Although we all knew according to bury the goal in the past several years was likely to sell the company by contact with has been known as an email management system. They've been around for a good deal. But they haven't been a sizable force to be reckoned with in the industry like constant contact and the like so they acquired mas. I tell you what my personal sentiments are that that's a shame that the mas community is not gonna be as strong as they were in years gone by. I think this is kind of software sell and for the longest time we've known as the community where you can participate. Ask questions and interact. It truly was kind of the wide up on the hill. For the last fifteen years as seo has has grown and it's a shame to see that that brand be acquired because there's been so many incredible participants in that Of course ran fish. And who's the founder of the organization but on top of that britain and ross jones. Right i mean. There's so many participants doctor pete. Absolutely that are in there and we don't know what that community is going to be like. There's no picture yet of how participants are going to be. So i see this as a dying of particular light that led us for very long time. What do you think about that. Morty tend to agree with that. I i love the headline barry. The predict a bright future. What are they going to say. You predict darkness. It's i i. You know it sucks was a couple years ago or at terrible years. You know mas letting. Barry mentioned the article that moslem twenty eight percent of its community staff. It's been a dying. They they always been dying community for a while. Unfortunately an i personally love mas as a brand. I think everybody does. And it's you know it's interesting. They merged with stat also a couple of years ago. I guess that didn't work out the way they thought it would right now. They have to sell. Which is yeah. I agree with you. I think it's i. I know. I conduct this huge way bigger than people think it is. I saw dr peed. Actually tweet about this. Yeah i had no idea. I just knew them as a as an email. Cms but yeah. You're probably right. I haven't because we saw it grew grow so much all the different tools mas had and then then they overextended themselves. Obviously it was a a pinnacle to be actually To contribute into the mas Blogs it was a matter of accreditation right absolutely and they had to implode a little bit to get back to the the core elements of seo rank matt right management and a page pay scoring as well as they invested highly in the local metrics at You know we interviewed ran. I two thousand and eighteen. Whenever these decisions are being and he was very transparent and he somewhat somber. But i mean he was forthcoming with a lot of information regarding. He's good like that it really. I don't know. I don't think this is at all a testament to the seo community except that there was an era here. And i think this has gone right. Yeah i mean. Look i think it's been gone for a little while now. I mean it's a very. It's don't think people realize how competitive the seo tool world is right. Brian your in your enterprise w have your conduct conductors your bright edges your clarity of the world and it's even for them. It's very difficult. And then you have your sam russia's and you're a it's a very very very hard market and then retaining those clients once you get an as even more difficult. Sure all right well Again we wish the best financially for everybody that was involved in that acquisition. And we we certainly give the best possible blessings for for all individuals over mas anna. We hope that they continue contributing to the space and good luck to everybody there. All right something else that we want to jump into here and kind of questioning over at Search engine journal on matt southern's post. Google doesn't rank pages differently than post. Alright so google bought doesn't recognize the difference between posts pages therefore they have equal opportunity to rank in search results. All right so. There's a headline sub-headline here all right. There was a seo hanging out. With john john mueller. Over on june four. Th and site owner navene at a carry. He joined the stream. Asking mueller wise. Blog post aren't getting as much traffic as is service pages he asks if google treats content differently when it's published in the blog section of site compared to the content published in other sections. I think this conversation has been there for a long time but the response was actually interesting. john actually responded. I don't think google roy would recognize that. There's a difference so usually that difference between posts in pages of something that is more With your back end organization of your. Cms that you're using wordpress if that's the case and it wouldn't be something that would be visible to us so we look at these as if it's an hmo page and there's lots of content here and it's linked within your site in this way and that we would rank this html page so they double down and actually talked about the cross linking the interlinking between the website. So we would essentially say it's an eight page. That's that's this content here in it's interlinked within your website in this specific way so point is here. Is something a little bit deeper. I believe that we're we're talking about. We've been talking about novelist panel. And we've been talking about google understanding entities and one of the key factors of introducing an entity are subject matter on your website is not where the a blog category or structural page. It's how you're cross linking how you're introducing these key pillar concepts to your audience and what's really important page and then supplemented support page if you can't separate between the pages here what you're no pun intended. What you're saying here. Is google really really interested in how you're referring to this content not where it stored but i gotta argue that paid structure instructional pages and the and taxonomy. It comes along with really good file cabinetry as it applies to service pages and so pages they are naturally more interlinked then the the blog categorization. That's over there. So there's there's there's a. I contend with us a little bit because there's there has been always this internal linking Build up inside of structural page. That's why everything that is valuable so much but is this not just kind of a Peek inside of what. Google is really trying to understand not just about your site but also about the topics that your reinforcing on his. Well there's my. There's my fifty cents worth their morning. What do you think about this response about pages versus posts. Yeah i mean. The question is is funny in regard. Yeah the only way google's going to know first off there's many types of pages like blog post. Your dynamic paid like shopping pages products louis similar from cms point of you blog posts and shopping centers are very very similar. Actually as opposed to your static. Pages i saw the questions very funny. The only way. Google really know the difference. Outside of looking at the content itself would be through the sub folders slash blog versus slash products slash. Faq whenever you have set up on your site. But i i yeah. The interlinking is really really important particularly for cross. But it's obviously the you can tell google which which pages of the most important pages i think. Google understands the difference between the various types of content on your site regardless of how often your linking to and for example. Let's say an is a caveat to what i mean by that because you can take morning. That sounds insane. let's run query for. I don't know how to install windows ten and you have a whole block about about this. It's not gonna look at one of your product pages and say. Oh that's relevant page for this. Because there's so many internal links to that page right. So internal linking is very important but it's not more important than what john is saying. The html on the page content is the content. The i firmly believe that they can tell the difference in so many ways of what types of pages an infrared only the subway landing pages images. They've accordion files blog posts. Don't they know exactly what's there and it's a funny question because when you search for something such as again how true install a washing machine and just making this up obviously what else would ring put a blog posts basically right right exactly or faq section or right some of the epic uber's think of better with a bad example. Because you have nikki for that right with those types of informational queries. I don't understand like why. Why would you think blog post wondering what else would rank doesn't have any other place on a website besides a block. So you know. I i call. I call a little bit of shenanigans. There because google lapsley knows the different areas of your site in fact they were even saying to us earlier on this year that different different contents sections will rank differently right and they understand your site. They're profiling the site saying all right. You talk about abc. You offer a b and c season. Not really as relevant to your site as you might think it is. We're not ranking you. For see you're still going to weigh heavily in a particular subject matter and not even with not not even considering the inbound link factor is going to look at your content and judge accordingly of. what's most valuable. Are you telling. John that is just about cross linking between pages. That's there's a hierarchy here like i content has to be good and relevant blah blah. And then we can look at things like interlinking. They don't you. Don't start off with interlinking and sub folders right right. I think. I think if if i if i could be so bold. I think he was a bit coy on the answer. He was answering directly to the to the question. How was actually asked correct. That's what he does. That's exactly what he does like studying the talmud very nuanced all right. Hey we're proud to have site. Strategic has a sponsor of the web. We are pioneers in agile digital marketing. Core specialties are technical core web vitals sem social media management conversion rate optimization all focus on results based marketing that actually works so we've actually developed a really cool contact curation process here in the studio we also perform omni channel media marketing. Just like the content. You're listening to or watching today as well as the content curation process i was talking about. We actually cycle through and learn from all the different things that we're doing. You're interested in what we do for you. Call eight seven seven. Seo for weber. Eight seven seven three six four nine three two all right. We got a core web vital. I'm sorry see. Tam core core update. Google's june twenty twenty one core update is among over search engine roundtable and search engine language and have a look at bowes. A new broad core update began rolling out wednesday. This is one is named june twenty twenty one core. Update all right. Google search liaison dani sullivan announced adding up the adding that we should also expect. July twenty twenty one core update next month chatter within the industry was not at corps. Update levels However meaning seo who track these changes really didn't really say that this was a big update but we're seeing some spikes. We're seeing a number of different Rank monitoring program show a good deal of alabama volatility. Here so what should we take away from from this. Core update not core vitals but core update. What are you seeing right now. It's very different than typical core update. There's not as much moving as typically as not as noticeable so okay so i usually look at page level keyword level page movements. I leave the domain level stuff to glenn gabe who with guns and guns amazing all around. It's not as noticeable. It's hard one is not as much movement and to the movements not as demarcated or or is clearly seen. Usually you'll see giant spikes up here. Giant spikes down there here. The some sites going up a little bit of couples is going down a little bit the not as as intense both in volume and both in the in the quality of the of the movement itself the the number positions being moved from. When i can tell it's a little bit anecdotal by looked at dozens upon dozens of keywords over the last couple of days also tons tons of reversal from the those may unconfirmed updates. Wow lots of them. So you'll see a site in may One of those may updates went down for a week or two back up with the core update or the reverse. Yep to we're seeing. You're seeing that with a couple of our own clients as well. Those reversals That's fantastic to see the number of points of postings inside of the berries article at seeing some showing ranks plummeting site-wide on entertainment and education sites And again this is a cherry picking from a a few insights here. So you got glen gabe out there. There's probably going to be rolling out something so very soon regarding everything from domain and and products en beyond glenn goes deeper than i was just giving him props for a moves quickly. So where can we find so for our listener here. That's either maybe In a marketing firm. What where can they find. Well they can see from their own site. And and what. Type of behavior they're experiencing because google search console. Obviously a couple of days behind. But is that really going to tell us the biggest amount of fluctuation or what kind of tools should we be pointing at are the easiest one. Google analytics is check. Your ganic traffic. Sure i mean you can check out your rank crackers as well and see well. The problem is google analytics. Not going to be able to see those those terms and they rank trackers only main level. That you've lost traffic. They had to go figure out which pages bright law stat traffic and for which keywords did i lose that traffic. So you might. You could wait a couple days for the surge console data to come through or you can check your local ring tracker local like ever softwares out there and software using yup louis. So there's some really good ones out there so for for business owners that are listening to this show. They say okay. What in the world do here certainly recommend a number of these different platforms ago. Just an law these these platforms you can use for free and they have or some some of the tools for free for sure absolutely absolutely by the way. This is only part one. There's a second update coming in july which is intimate self extremely bizarre so this update itself is bizarre in the way that it rolled out as barry mentioned rolled out slowly than the amount of movement and the significant or the severity. Sorta looking for of that movement is not normal and then there's on top of this a second update assist update in july decree announced a twofer. So we don't know what has been actually affected and we usually don't know until months after the fact when all the data is set to through but now we won't know what the june was because you'll is going to be heading. Joy is going to be hitting and you won't know which you actually got affected by right away if you get hit. Sit tight as more laurie. Hey there's a july one coming so things can get infinitely better or infinitely worse. Takes got a question. Do you guys think if you do nothing at all and you went down a little National breaking down harder like maybe this was a pre people always complain. Oh it's so bad. It's so bad. Maybe the well. What if we release it and just make small changes right. Give people some time to react to those small changes to try to curb out a big one. Maybe i don't really. You really can't see you and we've talked about this on the show before A number of even a mark trap hagen was talking about this is. There's so many times that we're chasing our tail on how to react. How actually adjust. You really. don't know until until the data actually pans out so trying to react something within weeks after the core update gets rolled through very difficult especially with the second one coming in. I mean unless you see something glaring right by the way. Jacob is right that does happen. We'll knock it down a little bit and knock it al but more or conversely by the way could knock you down a little bit and there's multiple patterns throat punch and then it's you know again the nuts third and then it goes back go for the leg rollercoaster. Would you compare this to. Ooh i tell you what we have. No idea yet. I don't know the names of any roller coasters. I only know a couple of local man. Sure that batmans rollercoaster all right. So you got the beast over ear kings island. Tell you but you know what i had a mental images harry here we go to dick dick dick dick dick dick dick okay. There's another curve. Oh we're gonna we're gonna go around in a corkscrew fantastic. We do an entire podcast from the beast is sincerely doubt it. I think along right. We should do that at the huge and the analogy of website. Update updates were. I just want to see you go through those tunnels trying to fight the g. forces screaming into the microphone about news. Well he won't get the phone number right either way so nice nice this milk it milk on the way back on point for a second. If you do want to see what's going on with your niche what you could do is take a look at your competitor. If you're using one of the seo tools right take a look at what's competitors game versus which ones lost and try to profile those pages absolutely laws and see okay. What's on those pages. What's not on those pages. What are they do differently. What i do differently and profile that way right you have to have a good understanding of the competitive field. I right you can pull out. Lessons aims right. Google intent shifted or google now released really very focused on this particular way of understanding this this page conversely looking at your competitors and if you see them all down we had we were looking at One of our clients in particular industry and we saw a uniform drop across the board with and at that point in time. You're seeing all right. Well this this update actually happened and the entire industry took a bit of a nosedive here so the point you can at least get a little bit of exactly. The went y l. The medical community back in two thousand eighteen right in august. There there was a whole mess out. Major mess also keywords. That do that. They're just unstable keywords yet. There's everybody's moving around constantly. News keywords are generally that's the norm for news keywords but there are keywords and other verticals where you'll see like google does testing everybody all the time so it's not really much you can do there no no absolutely not get another keyword. That's what's going on but what we have seen over the last couple years here is a reversal behavior on a number of these updates. Let's just like you were talking about. There was a reversal even earlier. In the year as well back in march. I believe when we had one and there was also back may of last year. There were some changes that got reversed from that core update. So that was a whole question right. Do you have to is there. Do you have to wait for the next four update to see a reversal. The answer was technically not yes right right right right of sentiment from the community so basically it's a hold on Rollercoaster analogy is pretty good. And you know white not white knuckle it all the way through. And you can't really one of the worst thing that you can do is try to overreact. If you decide to restructure a good deal of your categories or your structure pages or do a massive amount of relinking. You won't know you've got to pay attention to watch what pages and keywords dropped. And then i prophesized a reaction if it's happening right now hold on. Don't do anything right now on chasing your own tail just wasting time and money. Yeah yeah yeah exactly. I tell you it's not a waste of time is seo chat hashtag seo. Chat each thursday at one pm eastern. What's going on this week. This ironically enough. We're talking about e ata in the health space because the health vertical is the most authoritative the most. Ym wellish of all basis word. Now it is now so why and why l. seo all sorts of acronyms. This thursday one pm eastern standard time is hosted by michelle. Fortin very good very good So set your dials their and watch the hashtag Because there's a lot of great stuff that comes through all right so michelle certainly Which are the best damn. We'll try to jump in there on thursday and Find out what's going on all right. So that's it for us over the edge. Thanks so much more. We wish you the best to get healthy and nonstop filled right. Thank you very much. I can't talk already all right. That's it for edge this week. Want to make sure that you listen to the mark trap hagen first interview that we did and there's a second one coming up we have really good insight into enterprise. Seo and some of the troubles and travails inside there so enjoyed it. 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S2 EP6 - Gluttony

Stephen Fry's 7 Deadly Sins

29:29 min | 1 year ago

S2 EP6 - Gluttony

"This is Stephen. Fry's seven deadly seals if you showed six not to again if gluttony were a country. I'D BE ITS AMBASSADOR. Obama's it's monarch prime minister or president for life. I was bowled a did I did I over guzzle at the teat. Did I am the guzzle? Say these words is that I've said them before or something like them may make long arm to my index box. There's a good fellow here. We are yes indeed the FRY chronicles. You haven't read it more. We devoted enumerating book. Rarely Broad Tebbit's surface of British Publishing Dory. That'd be that'd be quite from passage that describes my six or seven year old behavior. The breakfast table was where the seeds of my sorrow was so. I'm sure that I'm writing locating fest addiction here. Sugar puffs were the starting Lincoln a chain. That would shackle me from most of my life to begin with now as you might imagine. They were breakfast habit but soon I was snacking on them at any time of day until my mother began to sigh of the number of packets. He was forced to buy. I would eat the sweet pellets loose from the box. One after the other without stopping into the mouth they would go. I was like a movie going American. Eating Popcorn. Eyes glazed hand rising and folding. Pack to mouth to mouth to mouth. Like machine is glazed. Is that important child at the breast or bottle has that look. There is a sexual element to such unfocused. Fixity until I was about eight or nine. I sucked the first two fingers of my left hand almost all the time while twiddling the hair on the crown my head with the fingers of the right hand and always with that glazed faraway look with parted lips and labored breath. Was I giving myself the bread street that I'd been denied cereal? Packet lists of ingredients and serving suggestions. Were my literature. Thiamine Riboflavin Niacin. My mysterious invisible friends sold by weight not volume contents may have settled during transport insert finger under flap and move from side to side. They're great we like rifles tricycles nicer clothes and so they were in fact as I like to say they were thrice sickles as icicles yes sugar. That was my first addiction right. A few pages on I talk about its effect on me at school. I'll pick up the thread. Their tuck as you may know is an old fashioned. English school slang word for sweets. I write what Americans Call Candy while I had encountered sweets before. Of course I had they had usually come in co pound bags scooped from large glass jars in the Norfolk sweetshops. Pear Drops Shepherd Lemons Tuffy Clair's humbugs and fruit bom bonds or other dowdy respectable and prewar. The school tuck shop offered wilder excitements in this. The rising golden age of confectioner. Cadbury's fries raw rowntree's Nestle's macintoshes Mars and tears still individual independent manufacturers from macintoshes came. Rollo's Kara Mak tuffy crisp from FRY's Turkish delight crunchy bars and chocolate cream. Cadbury's gave us the picnic in the flake as well as the signature. Dairy milk wrapped in delicate purple foil. The Bone Ville giants were even then preparing to launch within one year of each other the legendary curly world and the greatest chocolate bar in the history of the world the Aztec Nestle's meanwhile off this the Milky Bar had the kit Kat and the Arrow fruit pastels fruit gums smarties Jelly tots. Mas had the Milky Way Mazdas maltesers marathon. That's my so and not still now that the MAS products began within the marathon would many years later be rechristened snickers of course and I would help launch the new name by recording the voice over for its advertising campaign. If I had known such a thing might happen then I might well have exploded just as Mas Opal. Fruits would one day become starbust. Of course doubtless they had their reasons they also produced spangles square boiled sweet that has become shorthand for just the kind of Lazy overawed nostalgia in which I am now. Wallowing Glorious as the school. Tuck shop may have been was butter John. The Baptist to the Messianic radiance of the nearby village shop unworthy to tie it's red liquorice bootlaces or liquids Shaba dabs on the shelves of that shop gleaned glistened twinkle the most exotic colorful sugary sweet treasure. I had ever seen or had ever dreamed of Jamboree bags. Tree boil refreshes fruit salads and blackjacks farthing. Each that's four. One old penny foam shrimps rice paper flying sources filled with Chebet swizzle macklowe twizzlers that fizzed and popped in the mouth like fireworks love hearts chewy soured cola bottles and rubbery white milk bottles chocolate buttons sprinkled with hundreds and thousands strips of Wrigley's juicy fruit and spearmint boxes of tickets and Pez loose cubes of Bazooka Joe and packs of Beatles branded bubble gum. Each one with a card inside that offered a picture and priceless biographical information. John Hates Marmalade is very fond of lemon curd. George is the tallest beetle but only by half an inch and valuable secrets. All finished with the exclamation marks that remain a characteristic fan literature to this day on other shells that were stuffers. Aniseed balls and everlasting strips. Shepherd fountains dabs and dips wine gums wagon wheels and Walnut whips. There was the much prized Spanish. Gold pouches of yellow waxed paper with a picture of a red gallion on the front packed with strands of shredded coconut. Brown with chocolate powder to make it look like rolling tobacco. Liquorice curved into a Sherlock Holmes pipe compete with Bowl and stem white candy cigarettes with red ends on rice paper wrapped chocolate cigarettes presented in a fake. Chesterfield's cotton all the elements. Were now in place. Sugar white powder tobacco desire lack of money. The forbidden yes forbidden. The village shop was of bounds to all boys seven years old two hundred miles from home and deprived addict. There are plenty of stories of children younger than seven. Who are already full alcoholics? Or were born addicted crack. Cocaine Crystal Meth opioids and red bull. And I'm fully aware that my sugar dependency reads as tame by comparison. The fact of it is an indictment of nothing than the lesson to nobody nor is it satisfactorily. Explicable I've given you the outline of it. But that doesn't suggest necessary or sufficient calls for so compulsive an all consuming an addiction after all. My contemporaries were subjected to the same. Advertising had available to same cereals candies and comestible and what compounded of the same organ senses and dimensions get from my very earliest consciousness. I sensed with savage on swerve ables certainty that other people were not seized by the same rapacious greed insatiable hunger over mustering desire shivering lust and terrible hurting need. That had me in its grip almost every hour of every day. Or if they were they had levels of self control it entirely shamed me. Perhaps I wondered. Perhaps everyone but me was strong. Character full and morally assured perhaps only the I was so weak as to succumb to appetites that others could control babs. Everyone else was equally nordby equally keen desires but had been granted by nature all the Almighty an ability to muster their emotions that did might trembling desolation. I had been denied substances so insignificant compared to the big things in life work faith knowledge. Hope Fear Love. But the appetites and a susceptibility resistance acceptance and denial of substances define and reveals at least as much as abstract expressions of belief for bold recitations of action and achievement. Oh maybe as I say it's just me maybe. Other people have greater control over their appetites and less interest in them is seemed to have been driven by greedy. Need Needy Greed. All my life. I read that some years ago but the words still express a lamentable truth about and clearly not just me a need. The overwhelming need to fill the mouth or nose or lungs with substances that bliss out numb stimulate thrill shift transform alcohol narcotics stimulants. Sugar junk food. Well we all know these days about endorphins and role in nature's punishment and reward system that we have somehow found a way to supercharge short-circuit and hack the chemical stash. Insiders is common knowledge. Be Fs Geena. Those academic behavior lists who were so fashionable incredible back in the nineteen fifties and sixties experimented on the Bertram animals as behaviorists always will the enslavement shaving and tormenting of small rodents being their addiction. I suppose in one famous experiment. He offered some mice a choice between two buttons that they could press with little pink noses press button a and a quantity of seeds and other attractive food would fall down from a hatch press button be and an implant in their brains would be activated that would give them a surge of pleasure by releasing all the good. Holman's you know the ones Tryptophan noradrenaline melatonin. Serotonin those generous home brewed. Opiates DA endocrine systems release as Haddan ICK reward. When we do something of survival importance have sex succeed in hunt build a nest. Eat a good meal achieve some other crucial than deserving goal. What skinner found with this experiment? When surprise you it transpired. Add that the mice would repeatedly press button. Be to give themselves ecstasy the euphoria. The flooding orgasmic charge of pleasure that the electrode stimulated and they would keep on president until they died of starvation. Blissed out but lethally emaciated by malnutrition like a junkie in educational anti-drug film so a life form that stupid enough to die a premature death because it prefers great washing spasms of pleasure to food. Welcome to Homo Sapiens. And I more than most people I know most but not all Amazon. Guilty has any of those mice. I say more than most but not all because I have known people even more grit than me by the pool of addiction. They're all either dead from endless depressing button be or they are now completely clean. An unable to indulge in anything without putting themselves at risk of a catastrophic return to their old ways. You're listening to Stephen. Fry's seven deadly sins. I'll be back after short. I'm presuming of course to interpret gluttony with some latitude but even if we justified in the old way to food we can see that it is adviser a disease a disorder a failing of disastrously epidemic proportions in the developed world. Today we all know by now I should think in hope that for the first time in our species history more people die from the consequences of too much food than from the consequences of two little. Obesity has overtaken smoking as the primary cause of early preventable self inflicted death. Evolution prepared this with the carrot of pleasure and stick of pain to give away to thrive in the keenly balanced and precarious knife-edge existence that preceded our cognitive revolution. But the moment we developed the combination of toolmaking Phya harnessing crop planting and most crucially of all the cognitive leap that included above all language. Well suddenly we could beat the system that kept US always hungry always stressed who is on the hunt. Always on the defensive fire protected US tools gave us an edge of both predators and quarry while language gave us the ability to plan cooperate bond and come the agricultural revolution settle. Calories suddenly came easily especially to those that rose to supremacy over that fellow humans neither by didn't of force of arms and force of personality or by Croft and cruelty fast forward to the industrial revolution and Ronson Element of social democracy. Finally evened out the virtual slave economy of the first workers. Then few went hungry. In the so-called developed world few but certainly not none the efficiencies of production manufactured trade and distribution meant that the kinds of experience that made us feel fulfilled warmly. Happy and pleasure. Ably repeat. Increased almost exponentially what social democracy classical liberal economics and the semi regulated marketplace. Couldn't deliver was filled by an ever eager organized criminal a leaked as one of the American mafia pioneers Lucky Luciano was it said if history teaches us one thing it is that people will always WanNa get laid get high and to get action. So in Times of state prohibition he and his fellow mobsters were only too happy to provide illicit sex booze drugs and gambling the four horsemen of the addiction apocalypse. We tell ourselves or these. I tell myself that I can excuse my gluttony because it is simply a mistake of evolution. I was bred of hundreds and thousands of Millennia to awaken my pleasure. Glands in whatever way I could sugar was first but such is the flaky fragile and fatally flawed blueprint of our natures. Almost anything could replace so complimented. Take Smoking Oscar. Wilde called the cigarette the perfect type of perfect pleasure. It is exquisite. He noted and leaves one unsatisfied like most of observations it repays more inspection might at first appear warranted tobacco. Unlike alcohol or narcotics say makes one neither dreamy nor stimulated. There's no buzz no hallucination. No rush new. No FUME OF SOME ORLEANS. No spock of hyperactivity consciousness is not lifted lowered or in any way altered unlike food. Tobacco doesn't make one field presently fool. Unlike alcohol is no stage of Marinus uninhibited confidence or connection. You'll first cigarette makes you feel sick. The taste is bitter and unpleasant. There's no reward of the nausea dizziness and coughing. But once the nicotine attach itself to the right part of the brain then after three or four more cigarettes against the resistant instincts of your body. There is addiction so that without the smoke. Come the pangs of withdrawal. Smoking is a random and utterly unsatisfying thing to do but the pain of not doing it is compensated for by the relief of doing it and keeping that pain at bay cigarettes leave. One child said unsatisfied. Therefore the answer is to have another and another twenty thirty forty fifty day not satisfying you only satisfying you're craving and where does this craving come from smelter craving for any feeling other than the abeyance of the MT feeling of not having a cigarette? It's a perfect self sustaining but nonsensical feedback loop imagine rubbing neil full finger on sandpaper so that it slightly painful irritating. Imagine that if you did it just seven times. You'll buddy suddenly became addicted to you're doing it. You'd have to keep doing it just to satisfy this need. That's how autry and unsatisfying and pointless smoking is yet unlike rubbing your finger on sandpaper which is unlikely to become addictive. The act of smoking has the random an evolutionary useless ability to hijack the bodies pleasure reward system which was designed not for a poison like nicotine but for high energy foods with county of Sugar Starch. Fat and protein or maybe. We're looking down the wrong end of the telescope. Maybe there is an evolutionary advantage to the addictive quality of nicotine not us but for the tobacco plant maybe tobacco evolved this addictive quality precisely to trap us into cultivating and growing it all over the world so that it spread from being a uniquely American plant to a worldwide crop victory for the plant cancer and heart disease us. The same could be said of the opium poppy and the coca leaf and most destructively the cane beat and corn that yield industrial quantities of junk. Sugar it's all the damn stupid fault of the Damn Stupid Chemical Factory that we call our body. It's too dumb to tell them we've had enough shut. It can't distinguish between the beneficial rushes of pleasure that are merited by useful action. Such as eating a good balanced meal enjoying an old. Gazza more completing creative tusk and the equally pleasurable rush that comes from gorging on a narcotics golfing down junk food binging on alcohol. Spanking your week's pay on a series of bets stupid. Stupid Body incompetent hopeless nature misguided misdirected evolution. How they did you and dazzling with false Nasr. You'll want to say it's not our bodies fault. It's the fault of the pace of technology outstripping. The pace of evolution may be the bomber of all is the urges that impel us to over stuff ourselves. Cannoli be reined in by complicated burdensome systematic and stressful commitments to Diet abstinent sobriety and self control often involve all kinds of existential self examination. My name is an alcoholic addict. I choose to yield to a high of power. I will attend meetings from now until the day. I die addiction defines one when Ron was indulging and it defines run now that Ron has sought help. What's an absolute awesome on their of a Boston of a bitch of a bugger of a? How do you do indulge? Oh desires and you become fat in knee braided paranoid blotchy smelly breathless diseased and bound for break-up downward spirals and the early death face up to and vanquish your desires and every day as coveted the demons your addiction hanging over you like the sword of Damocles and it often become a narcissistic navel-gazing junk mystical life. Coach dribbling ball stuck in meeting rooms with other human wreckage looking back on the wasted years well pleasures. Ah left the brightened changing colors of nature the cleanliness of the dawn but surely medical science chemistry industry. Big Pharma. Surely someone can come up with a thrilling bows. That doesn't give on cancer and apoplectic strokes trigger mental illness. Destroy Families Cost Fortunes calls erotic via didn't embarrassing behavior. Cumby no seems a bloody kind of all sad truths of tongue and pen the saddest days. There is no such thing as a free buzz. Everything casts a shadow the brighter a phenomenon and the mall sunlit with promise the daca Chopin Blacker and more blighted the shadow it costs the only answer abnegation. Abstinence self-denial misery emptiness and a great hole in the center of ones being well once pleasure dwelt not life but Dow dismal existence. Only oh come now Stephan. Less of it. Gluttony is a vice not a genetic disorder your generation the sugar puffs. Rice frosties curly Wurley Vodka. Cigarettes and cocaine generation were spoiled entitled an Attorney Lacking in self control your guzzling Goldman dicing gluttony. Ruin own. Health ruined the health of the planet exploited in sucked up resources encouraged NOCCO cartels fueling violence and gang warfare. All in the name of your heedless hedonism and Cyber Riddick self-gratification. We have no pity for you only content. Wow I was crew. There is surely a kernel of truth in that savage and totally unexpected attack that I just unleashed on myself. Me and my baby. Boom appears Self indulgently sandwiched between a stoical wartime generation of sacrifice rationing and privation and millennial generation of student debt impossible house prices and existential threats species extinction sea level rise. Uncontrolled biotech maligned data harvesting and uncontrolled. Robotics Day I. We had it so good all the jam. None of the crust university education with maintenance grants and all fees paid cheap mortgages in the metaphorical as what is literal sense. We enjoyed open roads with no speed cameras. Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive but to be young was very heaven. The world was our peach and like the gluttonous pigs we are. We sucked out all its juice. Motto is perhaps best expressed by the poster child for that generation. My pull lost friend. Carrie Fisher instant gratification. She wrote takes too long she. And our peer group myself included led the way when it came to guzzling on empty junk calories empty junk art Mt Junk Culture and Mt Junk thinking. Feed me how homer Simpson likes to say. Feed me well as I speak to you now. I've lost several stone in weight and continue to reduce on regime of exercise and severe diatribe restriction grim and trim from the gym punishment for Glutton who is now glutton for punishment but I know myself too well to believe the Double Lost Surfing TV channels. I've cooked side to myself sitting in the chair of the panel show Q. I or hosting BAFTA film awards. In the course of thirteen years in those jobs I went from solid too fat to morbidly obese to weirdly thin and back to grossly fat again. It lower is be a fight and one for which I would get or expect or deserve. Much sympathy gluttony. Come out of this vice toll. Well I've tried to blame jeans and evolutionary instincts for going awry but this unattractive wallowing face stuffing vice has nothing to recommend it. When scaled up through the population that is not expressed as one individuals greed self-indulgence visceral fat wobbly jowls and loud asked Silhouette but as stinking landfills pandemic of plastic waste Feld rainforest endless vistas of species extinguishing oil palm plantations and are exhausted contaminated. Biosphere Gossiping. It's last does it. Make US angry or does he make his apathetic ruffle or slothful to mall. Sins to come and anger is next your views on what you've heard so far always welcome. I'll snack on them. Greedily at the end of the series so hashtag figure seven deadly sins to at Stephen Fry on twitter or at Stephen Fry actually on instagram and now breeze deeply soon for some roth full fury. Necking you been listening to Stephen. Fry's seven deadly sins. Grateful thanks to our composer guy. Farley show is produced by Andrew Sampson and Norman Goodman additional episode information can be found. Stephen Fry dot com slash banana skins. This is being a some fried limited production.

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Zealot 38: Jared Leto with Rose Callaghan

Zealot

56:31 min | 1 year ago

Zealot 38: Jared Leto with Rose Callaghan

"Right fresh from what? I'm calling rehearsal last week because I forgot to record. It's a brave new world unto absolutely marvelous comedian. And I'M GONNA say pop culture savant raise Callahan. Hello rely highlight yes. I am pop culture savant. That's what I let. I feel like I just have too much space in my brain taken up by stupid fats about celebrities and pop cul. I'd say it's just enough. Yes just enough and speaking of pop culture. I've had loads and loads of people sending me an article about the subject today claiming that he is now a cult leader who we talking about. A we talking about jared letter ACTA MUSICIAN. Supposedly a model Guy About town. And he's supposed cult. Jared Leto the Guy who looks. Like someone's bad drawing of Jake Dylan whole yeah. Basic never been a fan personally are a lot of people especially you know when I was young. Girls Light Oh my God jared Leto. But he's never really done it for me. Naar he's got the crappies and also I don't think he's got a sense of humor. He takes himself seriously at. Its ended all NAR so I had to go back and just familiarize myself with what he's done and I will say this is too good things about it one. He's very good ACTA. I'm GonNa give that as a songwriter. He's a fantastic actor and any gives a lot to charity super super rich but yeah because he's really rich. I mean it's like if I gave five dollars to charity right now. It'd probably because of how much how little money I haven't probably percentage wise more than he has given 'cause I'm not sure that jared leto has started a cult but will investigate that pile and the no pile but I think he's on the tipping point and it would just take something like a lead obita charity for to push him so on jared but I feel like he was just a typical like handsome actor guy for a while Bit of a hard like dieted. Everybody I think I didn't engaged to Cameron Diaz says yeah I white so who? She's dated Justin Timberlake and is it. She's still with one of the Madden's and Yeah. I remember that I saw Madden's alike. Baldwin's don't know where the edges are don't know how many there And who's going to be all right? Let's slam through your basic jared and then we'll get onto the cult stuff. I like that. He was born in Bossier City in Louisiana. 'cause like I feel like I could have been born in Bossia overseas. I I wasn't interview. Sorry to cut you off but this It was like an interview with him before he was famous that it was in some like E. entertainment or whatever. They're like an interview from the Archives. Jared LETO and he was getting interviewed outside like a nightclub but there are asking about like the popular dances of the time and he hasn't really strong accent. He's like Oh yeah you know Like the kind of dancing that they do. I didn't realize that was a Louisiana accent. But he's changed his accent on purpose over time and didn't you neely interview him. Yes that is correct It was probably one of my biggest of many professional cups that I've done Do top press record. Well I didn't even get to that point but The the pressing recalled thing. I can say that I did to Ruby rose in grant Smiley grand follies prominent Australian Day Jay and I did an interview with them and then I was like Oh my God and Ruby. Rose was like you didn't press record. Did you never be rise? I didn't anyway so 'cause I used to work in commercial radio so I used to like Interview lots of like bands and pastas and stuff. It was pretty cool and I write scripts for like a radio show But Yeah House. interview Thirty Seconds Tamaz. He's banned turing and then I dislike Ozzy my early twenties and then I just like posted on facebook about it. 'cause like back then we just saw that like Al personal facebook without personal facebook. We can say whatever we wanted on there and just be like released super unprofessional. You ended up basic era of facebook. Waiter slide I'm hungry and then you post that yet. Nothing funny about it just like just complaining. You know say the bitch your like are the ones that are like just do with some people right. Now don't talk about it and then everyone who kebe that kind of shape and you're right you're right. I don't want to talk about it. Just WanNa post about it and got some attention get attention so I posted on Was a cool job. That had now is like. Oh my God. I'm supposed to be interviewing like jared letter tomorrow but like I didn't even care like I was never into him like I. I don't even like jared ladder. Just posted that fired of that and then Auditor not long after my boss comes up in his like Yana Interviewing Jared leto. Tamar anymore and well because I forgot that the publicist that worked for the Record Label. That was looking off the giant Used to work at our company and my facebook friend. She at appreciate that end up being and then I got banned from doing interviews so and so you went straight by T. facebook and just went. Oh my God even more aleve. How much of an asshole? My boss is just annoying and I felt like some probably exciting anecdote like probably up but usually very exciting yet. You more exciting than I was going to interview him and I didn't. I think I learned to listen from that. But I'd like to blame jared leto somehow. I I never stopped right. So born in Bossier in Louisiana and Bossia and it's across the river city Shreveport have they share an all women's flat track Rolla Dhabi tame called the twin city knockers. I mean steady knocked his like I want so alike. I think I need to have a TESA sitting on. It should open thirty seconds to Mars shirts. Really feel proud of where he came from. Yes he was an Ala. A women's sport that's what he would do. That's right jared letter. Why are you dragging your feet on the old Rowley Dhabi? Yeah so he went to art. School like really cool. People like main did and like fine art painting. Fine him or me either but I did and I don't know I think Hedo that he really he. He gravitated towards the film school. Kind of thing. I can imagine him just like hanging out with these unique friends but like tolkien. A lot about all the amazing Jake's is GonNa work on but just getting started in like partying but not really that people would be like. He's amazing because he's attractive because he's yeah he's the hot guy. The Party Smoking Dariz token talking about on. Wa can have another one of my roles. Yeah of course you can have my loss via an always acting stuff so he started in my so called life. Playing Klay dines love interest. He was window. Narodni boyfriend in going to -rupt it which I just think I mean the star of The star of that movie is really the chickens under the bit. So pull pull jared. He's always a supporting act up. I feel like I just. I feel like L. interrupted his one of those movies. Detroit of the like Crazy Hawk. Go and then. She's like Oh. Isn't there a same wishy? Like CAUGHT SOLAR HAIR OFF. One of those is it. Engine DOTS with Angelina. Jolie's in that. Yeah she's Hot and light doing a whole like I'm a crazy hot gale and like oh I'm Gonna I'm crazy. Imminent cut all my hair off with like really blunt seizes but then looks really hot off towards the accident. Oh my God that was I was trying to. I was trying to act out now. I've got an adorable Picot. What's Woopsie I still up to make the hey? He kind of played a member in fight club. He was obliged blunt dude cold angel face which. I'm sure he loved. He played a heroin addict. Requiem for a dream with a really mucky on and he was an American psycho and he's got corn rows in panic room. I don't remember him from that at all so I looked up. Looked him up on the trial and oh he's never looked. Why Shaw Guard and that saying something else there would have been like. Oh my God that was again. Was that like when you could get away with a cultural appropriation. Imogene Lynn. Yeah for that. He won all sorts of awards for playing a Trans Woman in Dallas Buyers Club and then he won all sorts of people calling him decayed in suicides. squad when he played the and it was 'cause he does these hardcore method acting where he loses hates away or he I think to play Heron. He gave up sex for two months and donate so. That's like not giving up sex for a lot of people there like that. Yeah that's like a normal two months yeah but fit fit fit. I've gone full full methods like two months without sex like much. Like normal people like they. Maybe they can't get six for that. Make make giving up edgy. Might Toast for one day. That's a terrible. That's a really. It's a really good analogy. But even on this set of suicide squad. So hey he's idea of method acting was to everyone was supposed to call him. Mr J instead of jared because Jirka and hey played hilarious pranks on people like Sending costs members dead pigs. I know bathes use condoms and live rats. This why and there was. Isn't there a worse thing? The used condoms used condoms. Like what that's not that makes use. That's like a yeah. That's bullying and abuse. This is why actors get away with so much. She like they just all this. So eccentric is like nor that's psycho and no one should have to put up with used condoms being sent to them odds. Yeah I'm just sending you some of my chest up. Jeez because I'm just getting into character. Oh He's a dick yet his dig in. I feel like that says a lot about his personality I I just want to like I mean. He's like he's hooked up with a Lotta people as I said but think like Human Lindsay Lohan will on and off for awhile during a movie together about the that killed John Lennon and she was the love interest on white for that one so all that yeah he looked we'd maybe he wasn't having sex Lens Lindsay Lohan. Really it was. He was method. I'll yet he was just pretending to he was going back to to method. Acting will okay. So I don't know if you saw this dylan sprouse of the sprouse twins that will like childhood tain stocks that had like a Nickelodeon Linsey Lynsey these Dr Sar- He tweeted in late May twenty eighteen. He was like your jared letter now that you've slid into the dams of every female model age age. Twenty five what would you say your success right is and James Gone? You know who is no? He was like the director of like guardians of the galaxy. Okay off and He got cancelled because of saying heaps of problematic she'd on twitter up Yeah he responded with he sought at eighteen on the Internet. So Yeah and then in twenty fifth Dane I think he went on this He he said he took lots of ambient or something and Went on periscope and said jared enough failed school He was like Oh jarred. Rhetoric Sleeps with underage girls and he deleted it light and then also tweet from twenty twelve. He said driving from Vegas trading stories. About what a deep. Jared letter is That Sim stuff. And if you look off line there is kind of a lot of stuff about how jared letter should vein me to a long time yet. It's one of those things that like. Nothing's properly come out but if you go deep into read it in people's comments and stuff is a lot of stuff about him like texting underage girls hooking up with underage. Sorry my instincts on him. Were right but not that. I'm saying if any lawyers listening not that. I'm saying that he did do that. I'm just repeating what other people have said. That's right that's right. Although I will say and I will stand by in court. Jared litters the Dick yes I will. I insist that I will use the defense. All opinion and truth proved that he's not a week and I won't be able to do that. Bring out everything he's ever said and done and the jury be like with us. Sorry Yeah Goodbye. Saline reported in the newspapers. Add as jared leto always a decade. Exactly how this is going to go off. I just thought what's a gay and then I thought of a Rodeo. You know how the gate just slams open and in the bull comes out that but with the Dick all the I was thinking of like a chastity belt but like oh the office probably some really like a kink being young up lighting up. So then he's also seeing is somewhere ida he's actually been doing that for ages like thirty seconds to moths soldered in one thousand nine hundred eight. So that's a long time. That's like over twenty years pain in that band but they ought to get really big they get really big like two thousand five while I started working radio in two thousand and seeks. Yeah those already been around ages. Yes so they're songs will be at that time and they will like in the shots a lot in Australia. And did I remember that like when they started to get big all daddy seconds to Mas? Like don't go on. A bat is not jared letters band thirty seconds Tomasz. Thirty seconds to Mazi really wanted to separate himself from the ban and some things didn't aura. Job Lovett although it does back to the facebook paypal again. It's like guys Just before these interviews dots I just want to remind you that incredibly successful acting careers nothing to do with these band. Please don't mention my incredibly successful acting career at so many things are it's crazy. Yeah can we just focus on these one thing? I'm good at and not my incredibly successful acting career cue. I feel like when they came out that it was kind of like when Michael Romance with like a really big thing and it was sort of emulating. I think they have emulated similar tactics like the. Everything's very themed you nor line by line. Oh yes is a lot of eyeliner. There's a lot of outfits this like. Oh and second military sort of vibe. What like eyeliner hit cuts in the fans code the echelon and like earnings and named after an s will say as we go further into this eight. Bring back a lot of the themes of what they call the albums and the songs code and all that sort of stuff at researching these. I listened to and watched a lot of thirty seconds. Tamaz music video is and I don't want to anymore. I don't WanNa do that again. Ever snow good bad time. For Chew it is acting in the video gratuitous flagrantly gratuitous acting in full like it'll arpund like the whole clip ago for ten minutes and they'll be like an opening scene. It goes three minutes and then they'll be music and then the music will stop and it'll be like what's behind the door. No whatever spooky does not Michael Jackson and he direct so many of them music videos s some short films and under a pseudonym yes which pseudo bathelemy carbons. Because he's a doctor. He's favorite Dr Seuss Book. Oh my God he so Whimsey Cohen Is the five hundred hats of Bartholomew Cubans and people knowing that? It's him that it's just look you guys not focus on the fact that I can wins equal pseudonym climate. Directa as well yes. I'm very good at it but stop going on about it. Yes happens. Is the fake name. The director that just happens to be me etc. Asia in an interview. He said let the for the video for the kill he said it was directed by an insanely obnoxious Danish. Albino named Authonomy Cub. It's an funny also. I looked it up and it takes a lot longer than thirty seconds to get two months to say he's also a obsessed with like space obviously thirty seconds to Mars. The concept keeps coming up He to promote like one of Singles Code Apnea. He sent to space in space. X Dragon Captial Pot of Kaga emission But like I mean they didn't play this song up there. There wasn't like a listening party. There wasn't even anybody on the rocket like God. It wasn't even anyone on the rocket. And they like went to the Kennedy Space Center like for the launch indeed like QNA and stuff. Like I feel like who was doing. The publicity was doing a really good job they have. Whoever is doing? Their publicity is doing an incredible job. He's got a lot of businesses as well and so that the US talking about him being reach. It's kind of the head of fight with. Am I? Because I think I break the contract and they're trying to get out of their contract. Yeah it was a very basic like you're supposed to do five albums for all this money. And then they did three. And we'll like folk you am. I like either. I'm not an expert lawyer but that seems fairly cotton dry yet and record. Companies some ethical behavior in some sort of we earn new behavior. But at the same time. If you break you contract then you're GonNa get you going to get done Less you only have really expensive Liz. Because you're a famous actor millionaire just from that and then I guess you can find it. And he directed a documentary code artifact about the fact he bounced Legal Battle Cup so sorry the whimsical and Hilarious Buffalo. He's got a K. He's got three businesses that I'm aware of one which is called the hive and its digital marketing and social media. And they do all of that. He's consumers digital marketing and social media. Is He's Event Concert and Event Management Company which hold weight inches in wonderland today. Who Do they do events and stuff for me get thirty seconds to Mars right? Thank you for. Yeah Yeah and there's a streaming service that might lead extreme rains concerts and things code tae ask again ask again Who Do they strain these? Tamaz what man. Jared Leto has a good accountant. That's what I am thinking. You can watch exclusively on the streaming service. We owned advertised by these marketing company. We are here and it's a concert promoted by the concert company. We are in Kiel. Soy like invest in a lot. He's a tat Kim. Vesta like Ashton Kucher is also into that stuff now He invested in this company. That people from SPACEX started on to Three Day rockets. Like when he was one of people at like I only a few people in this one hundred and forty million dollars. He's back more than seventy companies in the early stages like slack spotify UBA and snapchat and he's friends with Alon Mosque. Which is not surprising. But we'd if you Google at this like a lot of pictures of them hanging out at parties and like along gives him good advice like he was like. I've gotten really good at saying. Nar lack eyewitness. I witnessed it with E-leong unit and I realized how important that was that we can do so many things. I'm not Special K Thought you could do so many things spot you know. It's important to say nor nor went to stop so that you can like focus on the right things like my incredibly successful acting career. My cult that I'm making he. He also said that Having a band is like a startup which is really waikiki. In like the record companies have venture capitalists. I'm like no. It's just like a business like yeah studying bandies like starting band and also when you do have already have a career and quite a lot of money. It's not at all. Let's start up. It's not like a risk autumn. No table why people think he started a cult because he keeps saying that he started a call and thanks. That's all we have time for the same lack so that it's like they've been dropping clues for ages in the music video a up for closer to the edge. If you watch it on UNSCREENED THREE MINUTES. Fourteen says yes. This is a cult in really big lettuce Directed that video. I'M GONNA say probably bothell Kaban was God also when you watch the music video for closer to the edge or at the stop. There's all these fancy tank of like. I wish everyone could just not fight and like don't regret anything you do. And then like people love that he's hanging out for some reason is lady claiming this. It's such an intense love that is like crazy yum comment by this lady saying that. She's playing the song to husband who is in a coma. This is in two thousand ten and people with the fought like what happened. That's really hectic. And then she did some updates He's awake and then the update which was in January. This year said they no longer to get up but he can so. We walked at his a roller coaster. She he was like fucking played thirty seconds to Mars for me. Two years wallows in Karma and the only way I would listen to it unconscious devastating so I took up that marriage. Countless of climate people have probably had that done to them. So thanks to the divorce. Jared let our. Yeah so okay. So there's this event Naquib Mas Island and they're promoting it and the older peaches alike. Like CAFTANS wipe CAFTANS. Everyone's wearing what and it's not the first time they've done it. It's It's on the Croatian island of abundant upon John Town. But they've done these events before haven't night they. Yeah they started as camp. Mas In Malibu and I think I still run that so an start in two thousand fifteen a bit. Mas Island is the one that had the recent flurry of articles saying We think jared LETO started a cult. But yes so he's been doing this cult shit for ages and so the three day inverted. Commas music festivals. They only band playing is thirty seconds to Mars. Yeah and activities in what is sports in Common Kava Rock and meditate and do Yoga Esi End. We need to also mentioned empty shape. Oh yes only two thousand. Us dollars Elliott shape to run camp. Mas Sorry that was like two grand or something and this has like we should mention as well. That recently Jared letter tweeted that. He was in a silent meditation for twelve days. And he like had just come out of it and he didn't know Corona virus if you might say loan mask you hear stuff exactly should have. You did the ground or like. He's probably should have sent you like smoke signals or something even if you don't have you find on the like. Londono headlong can be silent for as well. I don't think so like someone died in America from Corona on the twenty ninth of February. This was all while he was not at the silent retreat. Meditation place so I feel like he is just not paying attention. Generally or he wanted to a viral he wanted. He wanted to let people know that he'd been in asylum. Like sorry Wasn't just like ours. Sorry in a few nine about like I'm very spiritual Very unfair Jarred For the silent meditation from just from watching fleabag. Anyway definitely I didn't think he comes up with anything himself. A southern railroad it's all borrowed and he doesn't really Beckett up so he anyway we're getting too. I am surprised with Corona virus. That he didn't come out and start saying that it was the five Jay signals. He'll get one of those people. I'm not sure if you've come across them online. It's like the anti vexes ally not not yet it's five Jay signals. He'll come out that soon. I reckon I can only hope because I am going to keep an eye on him from now on a finger yet but so this the next Mars Island in Croatia is I think planned for August this year. Let's say if he has deposed by net but outrageou the Gulf from the website says Mas Island is a three night owning queasy festival experience on a private island in Croatia relaxing restore with Yoga amongst the trees. Take a dip in the Adriatic Sea. What midnight screening will go gaze at the stars and catch to intimate performances by thirty seconds to Mars? Mas Island is an experienced like no other tickets between seventeen hundred and seven thousand dollars. It says it's all inclusive but it Cape saying all the extra sheet you can pay for which is like the definition of not all inclusive and one of the one of Don's tattoos but there's four options tattooed has to be one of the tattoos that dic- which that's that's leaning towards year like coat one of them's like property of Jared Leto on I. Ninety nine dollars nine dollars for triangle. We did line through it. Which is the symbol all. These like SIM Symbol Shit as well. But it's all it's all such empty symbolism as well because I think he likes the shock value in controversy of appearing mystical and Kelty without actually having any background to it. You can do because he started thirty seconds to Mars with his brother Shannon. Who is the drama One of the activities a drum circle with Shannon later asterisk band activity sub- subject to change is a lot as a lot of drama circles. Says I downloaded the schedule Mas Island I've gotta say because you go all the sounds of fire fest elite but it's actually like super well organized and I do respect them for that light in August like. They've already nodded out like a lot of the details. So is there's a lot of activities. It's like kayaking paddle boarding snorkeling. Face painting Sern carving tie-dyed Blah Blah Blah is twenty eight opportunities across the weekend twenty-eight opportunistic kayaking twenty-eight opportunities to do paddleboard Paddle boarding peddling older. Like and then this There's Mas Trivia is one of the events and it's not about moss the planet the Planet Eddie Sickens Tamaz Knowledge in the Maastricht Way. Yeah AT THE PAVILION. Still not seeing seven thousand dollars worth no not at all but then there's like the full thousand dollar package in terms of accommodation like every step up they tell you things that have fate. You didn't that you go hang on what that wasn't included in the lounge area like this doesn't worse than that. You saw like four K. Gets YOU SHED ON SWAYED END ECON? And then the seven K package says the accommodation is completely waterproof and lockable way. What do you mean? The other one's not lockable and it also mentions that some of the inland away from the coastal flooding inside. Sorry sorry can we go back to that? Coastal flooding for a second out on five hundred dollars. We can almost guarantee you weren't get foot rot. Yeah you warned float away into the ocean and drown if you pay more money in. The Phoenix package doesn't have a price. So some of the add on activities or I think it's included in the AI. Pay Price is a buffalo covens limited edition. Print never seen before signed and numbered. You get to go to their soundcheck which amazing you know you get to go to. She'd version of the show. That yeah what the show is light up with less people. There's a private Dna followed by a private opening ceremony with the band. And an exclusive limited edition gift from Jared and Shannon. I don't take the used condom. Yes but it's restart like it's an old one saving it. So it's it's double used face. Fans would actually be like. Oh my God I would pay eight thousand dollars for that use condom. Thank you thank you. John they would they would days private family style. Dining list the meals. It's breakfast lunch. And do know offshore late night food and this and they name all the areas like walk on. Water Harbor and Oblivion Pavilion kings and Queens. Kitchen and kings and Queens. One of the album's songs Zan Medine SPA Forrest Yoga platform on this John. Rise Yoga at six. Am God this is after one. Am carrier key and one. Thirty am stargazing. So that's Hoffa. Now that's intense. He's very organized. Yes like Bain organized by Noti. Annoying Friend A. K. So we're GONNA do Karaoke twenty five minutes Yes I've picked all the songs. They're all thirty. Seconds to Mars. Songs them doing stargazing and then going to bed and we're getting up the yogurt six. Am It actually does sound torturous? Could call would be. You know you have to put yourself through all these difficult. Things like watching a thirty seconds. Mas concert watching another thirty instead. He's like all these pain. I'M GONNA be like such fulfilled person at the end of this. And that's an also now in the in the days of a self-isolation people groups of people being outside. It also sounds illegal and so it all post the pictures from the last month island on the Zealot facebook page. Because that's where you just I this isn't just an island festival This is everyone wearing the same cola and following. Jared LETO ADDRESSES. Jesus around and I. He's really leaning trying to dispel the courtroom is at all. He's trying to generate them and calling yourself a coat makes you cope. He's got his hair out and he's wearing the white long dress Kaftan thing. He's got his arms up like he thinks he's Jesus or lighten audit are. It's like a journey town thing or something. In all these people wearing what and their dislike on my God. Jared is lots of light looking up to this saen and praising the sun in the sky letting three hundred weeks and one guy. Yeah Yeah. Yeah there's like a lot of women and I think a lot of them are younger. So good faith All right let's go through the the yes pile the talk and the question is it a cow the yes pile. He looks like a cult leader. I mean video. Say It looks a bit. Like Courtney Cox did so strong. Take interesting I'll have to throw g dressed up as him for like. The Halloween is amazing. Hey talks a Lotta Shit? Like like cuddly does do. There was one of my favorites and this goes into will talk about the Echelon Unisex as well but when he was asked where the band got a name. He said it's a loose translation from a rare manuscript cold August. A poker fix written by an old harvard. Professor and Harvard Library gets inquiries about these and they see it like they've done in yet. They've done an online post saying okay. This manuscript does not exist. This guy does not exist. It's a really not ready yet. I ended up. Yes he would get away. We sit because it's like. Ooh It's part of mythology like he might have just been lying and got caught out. But it's like is it. Is it part of the game? Shannon litter even put. Well you know we like we like inventing these mythologies but when you look at it you know it's got a whole lot of young people e mailing libraries and that's good all my God. I'm actually Google it it. I quickly good good at is like an Faq section on the Harvard Library website. Like they've had to write these in. Faq Like I just looked this up and it's like have you heard about? I can just imagine the person it have. You ever heard about a thesis titled Anything Along The Lines of August Apocrypha fix near like we have received several inquiries about birth August end the L. Four ninety wing. We assume these references to the BAND THIRTY SECONDS. Tamaz and his explanations. Bama's have offered to the origin of that name which suggests it's based on a inverted Commerce thesis or in manuscript in Omaha professor in the rest of it. He's just going each note. That's funny we have also Switched Out Book and manuscript catalogs there like we have gone to great lengths and it does not exist anyway. It's so funny it's like end up emailing us a link to that on the on the FAC- page. It's so funny that have just got soy. Seek of thirty seconds to Mars for ends asking about it just went look. We'll put it in. Our hotline was just like a recorded message again and inevitably when they hurricane is a a quick flash subliminal message that says finally August fix so they made it out and it seemed like the booklets a couple of days so that just made up the sting but haven't done any is meaningless. Go So they do take money. And Exploit People like occult. Yeah that's that. You're not getting your money's with at Mars Islands and alcohol or drugs alab. They're like it's not a alcohol on the island but you are not allowed to take alcohol fit. That's like I didn't have maybe thirty seconds to Mars without paying off your teats awful. Maybe that's through that it's not a cult that specific beat of evidence because I called Stanton elect to get your high and drunk so they can see some do but others Completely dry but also then just they get people really exhausted which you would be. If you to one thirty stargazing up for yogurt six. Am make sense because that's only like four hours sleep. Okay right and another another thing on the pile. I feel like I'm going to be saying these two therapists at some point but I- trolled through a whole lot of song lyrics and one of them is telling ease in its some cold end of the beginning and the lyrics go. It's the end he today but I will build a new beginning. Take some time find a place and I will start my own religion yet. That's that's a big. Yeah that's that's could not be more like I mean also are accompanied with the yes. This is a cult Rights that is used on lots of like music videos and like on t shirts and stuff. All there's also they have specific Mas Island it's like what happens on. Moss island stays on Moslem Jason's yes then -nificant has learned to come back from Amazon. And that's what I is it. Oh far like the TV show lost something check. Can't remember what happened in that show but it was but I remember. Yeah I'm basically you need. You need to review. Show is but yeah speaking them. They do have they also sale. Yes is a coattail Asia. Yeah I think my favorite of match is is a shirt. And it's got these sort of cartoony picture the illustration of jared with a hood like Jesus cloak thing on and tease coming out of his eyes and four letters on it. Which is W W J Day? What would jared do? Uh Yucky edit like it fair the proof. He has long hair. And a bid. That's the that's the clincher defends. Okay so they called the army yes. It sounds some evidence Well he grew up in Louisiana Wyoming Colorado and Kenya. And so like he leave. Neil like air force places honorable at the born in Bossier city and the time to the Boxtel if force base and then Wyoming has some other air force base and then Colorado like has Colorado Springs all yet. Shane meant and the three other. Us IF we'll spaces one of which hosts an NSA echelon outpost not was where he grew up and get just borrowing stuff not really proved but just something. I found that was interesting. And he's makes losing we original and he said does these hoping makes me think that charities a Dick and they've got these video saying. What is the Chalon? And it just looks like a scientology recruiting video are because it's about being a family and it's a bunch of believers and but he said he wanting to be that he hates the word fan because it just seems so dismissive and he says because we have these cult these family these believers who understand. I see of eating. There was a name to reference them. I think if you think the word fan is dismissive then I don't think you should refer to people as cult members in I think. That's it's less dismissive than Exploitative I think so like I earned these people. Have you forgotten stock into a tweeted thing with crazy fans of anyone before nor but this might be the first time? 'cause there's like belabors like the crazy like tyler with fans of fucking mental yama like a couple of years ago. I tweeted something about Zulia banks and my fucking mentions. Were like fucking crazy after that? End It like you and you'll at ha ha but then I was like getting so I was getting really mad about people. It's just there yet. I in June fans like echelon seems pretty pretty up there yet and I did go on facebook to say if there was an official facebook page. Yeah and it was hard to tell because they are globe Biz Tens and tens of global chapters of the echelon is like a Swedish one and a Russian one is. It's that made me go. Ooh I'm uncomfortable. That's his cheek. That's okay I searched like jarred lettuce name and whatever a thirty seconds to mas on tweet up and then I saw I found the weight and this person said finding at Bolivian. Coup operator and propaganda Daza whose great grandfather also came to power in a coup by the way is part of jared letters cult who has ties with epsteins currently missing in action. Right hand woman Elaine Maxwell. I'm like WHOA. So then I like looked up these persons Twitter account that has like a blue cheek as well. Bolivia Jake and we'll of mentions off. Just like jared letter. Like on my goal jared letter. She's just like obsessed with jared litter photos with jarred Leder I couldn't find any any evidence of delaying maxwell or any of the other stuff but I don't know what that means but it was interesting. Puts it on the pile right conspiracy theory stuff. I think that sought to put it in the call pile as a K. On the no will you. Have you got anything on the yes pile just like a all wearing? What the CAFTANS Bothell me carbons thing that same slot Kelty The fact that he likes to wait Ryan Burrow tied onesies in good climbing in Joshua. Pray now that will. I mean? That's something addicted to use. The advantage of you know like if you compare it to five festival like also organize. Fi. Music peasant. Very disorganized is very well organized. It's well organized to organized. Like I think it super lucrative. That's the thing I reckon Hayes. Just it's like he's redeeming occult. He's he's not. He hasn't inserted anything but he's just he's writing the opening and wouldn't take much yeah. It wouldn't take much for him to just flip the switch. I guess it's like if you're making people do things against their will. Is that what? Which which jared could jared if he told the Sean to put a mosque stick three two s them. Yeah they absolutely would. I'm sure I can think of a better example but as a pinch so on the no pile of is it a coat. I think off any trainings. One is that is no real deterrent to leaving. Yeah you could just you know. Stop buying albums and that would be a considerable relief. I felt like what about getting off the island on a frigging vote to get bit. We can't just leave the island. That's the whole point of islands in main feature is hard to also talks. I tried to fire the island from the mainland. I think about that. He's Higgins Island on a pointing out the ferry yet one of the bright all inclusive things. Just kidding you have to pay extra for the high speed jet boat. The other one takes four hours. Four hours Tamaz Island. The second thing on the no pile is it. It doesn't seem to be an actual beliefs. Jim Except just love the band and believe everything that jarred says and the third thing is that I think jared letters just a week. That's conclusive evidence very conclusive evidence. Thank you I was GONNA has like. I think my one main bit of evidence that it isn't a call is just like I mean. A lot of bans. Just ream the offense. For as much money as they. Can you know what I mean like? This seems like a heightened Extreme version of the main great access. Pasta that you get like when a Popstar does a tour you had. I will sell those things. Now it's not just rock up the white behind the Geoghegan get an autograph. It's like all you pay for the light guy and they actually always call it something fucking stupid as well the Justin Timberlake tour in the mid two thousand the justified all access. Postle what F- finer like Brittany's circus like pod auditor fucking like and then it costs like fifteen hundred dollars but yeah excess Alexis to. Yeah the Brit pit you get in the pit and you get your own cocktail and then you get like main great before the show and you get to like get one. Further and one autograph is just like an hundred dollars. It's like that basically but it's even more expensive. I will add one more thing on the Polish. Well is that just maybe thing that I mean? Coats generally operate in sacred and Norway. That jared would is capable of doing anything in private. Hey He's a narcissist any needs. That attention fought publicist name tension but whale. Like odds Kinda jerk. It's like hiding in plain sight like no. We're not really a coat. Yes made it same jokey enough that it's like all it's not a cult. But that's exactly what he would want you to think because it's so obnoxious. Tom Show I thought I would be show. I would thought it would be no but I just think he's. He's a cult in waiting. He just loves the controversy of I people even discussing it brand of some random. That's a bad cold. I like to look up. Read it for things and I think this reddit thread sums this up a lot like do we have answers. But the red at posts said people who have been to jared. Leto is Mas Island. What was it like and this one comment and read dinner just said Sheet. So a you got and it was eighty percent voted. I mean this other celebrities like August quickly some people that would rather have a Col Brittany Spears and John Legend out. Sign the sheet up today call in a second. Rianne up beyond say Lindsay Lohan Out Bay. Oh I mean. She had that like Greek Beach Club. Which is that like a cult kindle Jenna or kyle whichever one the lip kit. That's basically a cult isn't it I think. The the whole Kardashian Empires pre-accident halfway there. My only random is that jared reckons that offense sent him a seventy e and he posted a picture of it on instagram with the caption. Are you listening? And he reconciled poked. He punched a holiness and tended into a necklace but when he posted the picture a lot of people were responding with. Oh that looks very very much like these really really popular brand of stage prop e you can get out really so. There's a good chance. He just made up a story that a fan had caught there. You're often sent it to him all my God. That's like really lame it's soil so land so he's probably he went to OSCO. Serve like that that Van Golf. He knew what he was doing. He was here he lands on Great. I'm tired of looking at him and listening to him. Jared letter like I hide it in before He ruined my Korea and all these stuff about him and Osu hate him. There's not one good thing I learned about him now. I Rode My. I sprained my muscles. Rolling them yeah so I think anything left to say es I do not like him in a House. I do not like him with a mouse. I do not like him Sam I am. I do not like these boring men. Join a cult thought. Join a cult. It's not a good idea Join Jared Lettuce call. He like he sin idiot and he does like cleanses and stuff and silently. It's not good. It's not healthy just yourself and just meditate but like not in the way that he does but just practice yourself. Habit not not considered letter politics comprehensive. Thank you very very much. You're welcome you've been listening to zealot produced by me Joy Thornley. We've no help from buffalo new covens. My Co host for this episode was Rose Callaghan Recording Remotely. From thirty seconds away further rating an obscure manuscripts. We just made up can be found on the zealot. Facebook page and music is by the everglades. The John Legend of Short cout themed jingles though Virginia Cope.

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The Rivers of Mars

Space Nuts

35:48 min | 2 years ago

The Rivers of Mars

"In fifteen seconds guidance internal Chan nine ignition sequence, Spence nuts. Spence nuts. Three four five eighty one. As the not reported feels good. Hello again. And thank you for joining us on the space nuts podcast. I am your host Andrew Dunkley, and with me as always strong amount at large Fred, Watson hullo. Fred, Andrew, how's it going pretty good pretty good? Lots going on. What's to talk about where you're going to focus on the rivers of Mars? They've field. What Myers used to be locking? It looks like it did have a lot of activity but river flows of have made the news and we'll talk about that a rear asteroid spotted by Hubble and a couple of interesting questions one about whether or not a system might have had a rogue planet in the past got kicked out because it was a black shape and a question about the expansion of the universe. And the Redshift issue the suggestion is if we're getting rid shift from the most distant galaxies. Doesn't that mean that? Things is lowering Dan, rather than speeding up. We'll try and figure that one out for you, Jeremy, and also, I think you to show him for his question, but we'll start off today with a an announcement about an announcement free. Look get counseling that we're nothing. If we're if we're not on the ball. Absolutely announce announcement. We have pray ifting something that hasn't been. Yeah. So just for full, the for the benefit, all those nutcases out. Who seemed to enjoy our show on with two of the biggest space cases. Of course, we've had an announcement to the press conference to media conference which will take place next week as we speak in fact shadow for the tenth of tenth of April European time, which is going to be about results from the event horizon telescope which you and I spoke about before what we always said he's when when are they going to announce the results? Well, now we know he's the tenth of April. On. You can be shown whole you listeners, despite not. So you can be show that you'll hear the news from us. Yes, we're looking forward to that at we continue anything right now because they haven't told us we just wanted to tell you that they're gonna tell us so that we can tell you. But after that, you'll know talent works. We'll we'll look forward to that. That's that's next week. But let's get onto the subject of the rivers of MAs. I actually read a pretty intense article about this couple of days ago, and I was fascinated. You know, go to a thing for MAs. But this, this discovery suggests that the activity of rivers, particularly went on for long time, even after the atmosphere was stripped from the planet, which I find fascinating. Yeah. Look, I'm glad you've read it in depth article about this, because you're not going to help me figure out very doubtful because you can't have no atmosphere and ribbons. It don't work that why. Yeah. And that's the big surprise in this. Yeah. That's right. The so the something that we're clearly missing here. But the story is that the this comes from basically, the GM jail muffle logical evidence that's just the shape of the landscape from mass from mostly from overseeing spacecraft which you've got sensitive writer, scanning devices on give us very accurate maps of the height of the terrain allows, you know so we, we know that too. Actually probably a few centimeters as it was a few maters, but probably sentiment is now. So the, the evidence seems to be coming from that the MAs actually had really significant rivers of water flowing on a surface, and these are bigger rivers than we've got on us, at least wider, maybe not bigger in terms of volume of, of liquid, but certainly wider and that same that the other piece of evidence is that because they are of a significant size. They are now thought to have lasted for a long period. In fact, they told me about the recent group of Luther can't they stuff. Who based I think in the university of Chicago the talking about the blessing for billion years to release flying for billion years. He's a significant length of time what I mean. It's no surprise that must had rivers because we have absolutely welcoming evidence. Mas, went through a period in history, when it was warm wet like this is with a probably in average temperature very similar to ours, which is about fifteen degree celsius when you look at it across the, the whole globe. But that, that changed and sort of changed roundabouts three point seven three point six billion years ago, when MAs was basically a billion years old. Now that change is thought to be due. We've spoken about this before that MAs lost its greenhouse blanket, because there's no plate tectonics, MAs. And so the fact that there's no magnetic field of, there's lot baba by the Silla Wendell of that stuff, basically, stripped, MAs of much of its atmosphere. Of course, it still does have an atmosphere, but he's only a hundreds of what our atmosphere pressure is here on earth. So the but the suggestion from this research group, as that, okay? Mas lost much of his atmosphere, three point seven billion years ago. But the rivers was still flowing then on that. Not just flying one place, but it many many different locations on the planet surface. And so, this leads to a real puzzle in terms of the Martian, climate out. Can you lose an atmosphere and at the same time have liquid water on the surface because no atmosphere means low pressure, low pressure means is that things boil away. They, you know, the, the boiling point reduces. So there are some details in this that certainly I'm not comprehending the moment, maybe you are because you read the indepth account, well, thought read the article, but it the article indicated that the issue was we don't understand why could have existed why why for billion years rivers flowed on Mars, when there was absolutely nothing to protect them. Yes. So somewhere there is a greenhouse effect taking place. You know, we, we, we really need to see more details of what these scientists are suggesting. It's, it's very interesting stuff. You know, you don't go to Limbaugh dot say, well, we've got a real puzzle. The I it's hard to explain these lakes rivers with the with the details that we have you don't got on a limb, like say, if you don't have really strong evidence to back up, what you're saying. So I think this is a story will hear more about. Maybe we'll understand it better the next time you and I visited for vice not. Yeah. And, and the talking like two hundred rivers, they talking, not just one or two tributaries. It was the study that's gone into MAs to diet has proven that there is water there. It's all under the surface. What what's the depth of the water if it was all melted, down and covered the planet that's Olympic Mehta's. But I think that's just from the southern ice Kapitolo. That's a figure I need to check actually because it something I rather long time ago that might have been revised. But that's a lot of water. It's the water. Yeah incredible. I mean it sounds like not all of its boiled off it just froze. No. That's right. Well, well, we, we believe that most of the water mounds did freeze, and, and we, we see it there. It's you know it everywhere you this water. A lot of it's covered up with, with the Martian dust that ubiquitous red duster is. Plenty of off frozen. Trump's a couple of questions in my mind when MAs had an atmosphere and Oviously head flowing rivers and lakes and liquid water. He's there any suggestion that it may. Well have also had some, some form of life in, you know, in, in the form of vegetation, perhaps or algae's or something along those lines. I guess I'm wanting you to paint a picture as to what Myers might have been like had not lost its atmosphere. Well, I've got a lovely his impression of green MAs, which is beautiful, clouds and legs and season, rivers by a like a space picture, but an, an inaccurate one to an accurate portrayal of what mass might have looked like if it had if it had done vegetation on it. This is, but this is a really difficult question to answer Andrew, and it goes to the heart of one of the whole issue of Ostro biology, which is well. Microbial life. Might turn out to be common. But moving from that to multi celled life. And that's what you know when you talk about vegetation, that's what you mean. Multicellular organisms that could be a very, very big step, and the whole body of Astro biology, who believed that, that might be very rare which, you know, step to get from a microbe up to something that Scott. Multi celled a multi cell structure. So it's I would it be said that MAs just didn't quite get an opportunity, make that late because the stripping of the atmosphere. Well, that's possible. That's right. Where what it was going to say was we? We know is a rare phenomenon because it only happened once on earth. We had, we had microbes for two billion years before there was a step to get from a micro to a multi, celled, organism and the only happened once, because all life on earth can trace its ancestry back to something called Luca the last universal common ancestor. That's why Astrobiologist getting more and more depressed about the idea of there being anything other than microbes out there. Not withstanding not microbes. Of course, themselves will be a huge discovery until a Mars. We've not seen any firm evidence of them, although that has been, you know, the circumstantial evidence, first of all in the form of these may now boasts that we find no MAs. We don't know where they come. From could be microbes burping or something like that. But there's also some evidence from, I think it was curious the curiosity. Sorry, not the curiosity the opportunity Rover found rocks with a signature very, very similar to rocks on earth, which are known to be fossilized microbial mats and era, the place called L Taddeo in Chile yet, this is the whole, you know, this is why Mars so exciting because we finding all these things out about it, and trying to piece together the puzzle. And I think you and I would put zone sir some point, we'll discover evidence of by the past or present microbial life, and that will be a sensational discovery. Okay. Let me fast forward. Now, we've talked about the possibility of tariff arming Myers, if we ever need to leap from this planet to that, and making it liveable if MAs Kat halt an atmosphere because of its lack of tectonics than hat would tariff on foaming succeed or be able to be maintained, but wouldn't because he's a bunkers idea. D that's being. Yeah. People have talked about the engine the technology that you'd need to do that. He's far beyond anything. We have at the moment, and it's a very good question. If you did, you know if he's smart slamming astroid into an ammonia, rich asteroid were asteroid would do it would give you a cab a blanket, you know, greenhouse blanket around Mars, the temperature might go up a bit. And hopefully that makes it a bit nicer if he can be the Mon. But you're right. How do you keep it? That way miles is too small to sustain plate tectonics. And so you lose your atmosphere. You got the same degs actually the same phenomenon happening all over again. I k they asked and answered. Thanks for it. Listening to space not Andrew Dunkley. We is Fred Watson. Motoo radio show. We scour, the planet defined the biggest names in hell creativity wellness strategy brand management, and more. This is going to be crazy. This Jason overcome retin-a on coach. This is Cal Newport, author of deep workday. This is Brian and that. Injury from the Canadian national women's rugby team because these James fighter Joe radio. So I'll be deceived. We asked them the big questions, MS such a great question. Actually landed right on the MARCY, another really good question talking to Harvard's traction. A little bit more in their lives views that I had on the lake five hundred interviews. But nobody asked me about this. Wow. Sometimes we talk about Dart's theory. Oh, can I tell you Dana, Gary favorite sport? He's docs how athletes. I think it's interesting that it's your favorite, but I won't be. That I know of a prerequisite is a pint of beer and a cigarette. Come on. Let's be honest. We don't take ourselves too. Seriously? Throwing a half dozen dots in a row. Just see you. We hope you will check us out weekly on your favorite podcast platform. Space mutts. Now, Fred topic we have discussed many times, and that is asteroids. We also talked about the Hubble space telescope many times. Now we've got a situation with Hubble along with NASA have combined to find a Ray active asteroid. What is define an active esta Royd as against a Rockin OSs one basically active asteroid is one of those two bits because it's, it's losing its its rocky mantle. So. Just to distinguish between asteroids comets comments, mostly. I like see object. So we're used to seeing them leaving trails of dust and plasma as they get near the sun that, that very icy. They've got a kind of a thirty. Component to the ice. It's pretty grubby so device, as the as the stun, get near the Sunday will up and they leave behind the trial of dust, which shows up as a dusk tile because Mattel by the sunlight, but also usually a talent plasma, the, you know, the is gas that is out out outguessed from the from the self asteroid on the other hand, I see, generally, they are rocky objects. Are we think that many of them are really quite dusty there, possibly even piles of rubble really just, you know, loosely bound piles of rubble held together by their own gravity, but not by very much. But there is an object, which has has been known before to be self-destructing as it's being described in the press. Release a this is now. Being observed in a really very elegant way. There's a collaboration of various ground by stop telescopes, plus the space facilities in particular, the Hubble space telescope which has given us this fantastic image of what looks like an object streaking through the sky. It's, it's it's trialed as against the stars if he's take photographs of asteroid. You've got to basically a move the camera. So it's moving with the asteroid belt with the stars themselves. Not what that does trails out the stars in the background. So we're going to image that Scott short star trials. But this extraordinary little points of light, which is asked to the asteroid itself with two streaks of daybreak coming from it a kind of quite brightly illuminated one on one that much longer, but much less much less well-defined. And so what is being suggested that this object storage gold his name? G. A U, L T. It's got a number six four seven eight gold. It's about some well rid the region of five kilometers across on the two. Time the two tales of daybreak that it's leaving behind a basically the result of activity on the on the asteroid itself. Why is he doing it? And the answer is something I was not really familiar with heard of it, but a really wasn't familiar with it, but it's called cold. You. Are you talk up a sorry, what? Quite, so that's a great Tuncer Andrew, it's your are your talk. So talk. Of course the the, the twisting motion. It's actually called a your fact and what it does is produce his talk, the makes enough destroyed rotate. What is the European fact twelve Europe, why O R P is actually an acronym? And in classes, it's known as the kofsky, kief, rods Ziv ski paddock effect. That's what it is named after four. Scientists one actually dating back to the nineteenth century Yvonne, you're kofsky, who figured out as did the, the other names in that in that rather. Gobbledygook Akron in your costly figured out that if an object is warmed by the sun that leaks thermal, heat radiation into space, and it takes off momentum with it. So basically you, you, you apply a force to the asteroid just by eating effects, and it turns out. That, that is a my sting force, and so the effect of the your p-. The effect other on an asteroid is to start expanding. And if you've got an object lie this asteroid goal, which is probably dusty rather than Rockies probably a bit of a rubble pile Easter spinning the your facts makes it spin faster and faster when it gets to a certain level. And I think about once every two hours, the turning for an object that size. You get the effective centrifugal force that, that basically pulls off Dustin dirt from his surface, and where does that go, well, it forms a tale a dust style, but partly because he's pushed back by the radiation pressure of the solid self. But of course, this thing is also streaking through space. So it leaves stuff behind it. So an extraordinary set of Astro physics that comes from nineteenth century thinking, but we see happening in before our very. Is something like eight hundred thousand asteroids in the main asteroid belt a catalog Andrew and the specialists, basically estimate that roughly once a year among the asteroids in the asteroid belt, one of these, you'll disruptions happens as, as an Astro, spins too fast for its own good and starts falling to bit. But it's an extraordinary situation and people, shouldn't sort of sti- up. Light whiting to watch it full it full of pop because it's a very long time really slow motion destruction. It's not it's not like a collision where things you know, Klag into one another. And the end of that this is a slow process, but it, it the ultimate fate of an asteroid like asteroid gold is basically reduced to dust. It will just end up as a as an OB thing, does pile getting more and more dispersed in space. So. So we'll let alternately happen to all of them, or do they all have different fates? I think it probably it depends on the size on the makeup of their stroke, semestral, pretty solid, in fact, some because, you know, there's one called sixteen psyche, which is really psychotic asteroid an made of metal. That is not gonna fall to pieces because of the European fact, it's too, too solid for that. So it just depends on exactly what's going on. So it, it might just sort of go around for billions and billions of years until it hits, something, all gets deflected into something all who knows just what the what the metal one debate. Yeah. Mental one. Yeah, the metal one last as long as the plan do, I think, what will wipe it out in the end, is the some turning into a red giant star, of course, three and a half billion years. No. You've got you know, diary, I'd I have. Yeah, I even got took me a long time to find that particular Dr to station restore g ultimately very is. And I had to pay a head to. All right. We'll we'll probably hear more about asteroids down the track because fascinating objects. And we always seem to find something new and unusual. And you're listening to space nuts, Andrew Dunkley heave. Fred. What's in there? Of course. Space mutts. Okay. Fred, let's head into the, the mystery world of answering questions, we never know what we're gonna get. That's what I like about it. People have incredible minds and come up with some amazing questions. I love this one. This comes from Sean, who writes to us from India. Hi, Andrew and Fred. Gradings from India on a big fan of your podcast, and especially the combination of wit and knowledge coming from both of you. I'm the one with the knowledge shown by the white. I was wondering if they is ways. Have you for it? I was like. The possibility that they might have been a planet, or two in 'Sola systems distant past that might have been deviated away from its orbit around the sun and gone. Rogue great question you, and I've talked about rogue planet's before. And there's a common belief that there are lots of planets out there that orbiting anything they've just become lost in space, technically. That's right. Yes, indeed, every possibility showed that happened in our solar system to, and, you know, postively a very, very early in the solar systems history. We, we know that for the first probably the first billion years, actually, maybe a little bit less than that. But the getting the solar systems about four point six billion years old certainly for the first six hundred million years. It was a wild and woolly place with lots and lots of daybreak basically charging around this system, the planets themselves. Were were full by things. Banging into each other in sticking together from a disk of material that was, what was formed with some so planet. I talked in the early days a planet, probably came and went quite a lot. They create together and then run into something else in smash a pause. So what we say now is a really very settled version of the way things were. But it seems likely that quite early in the history of the solar system when the pundits as we now know them were were formed, there were still objects, which were in quite delinquent. Put it that way, they were, you know, maybe not as well as stable, as the obits of the of the planets now in particular, opet might well have been modified by the, the extrordinary, gravitational force of the planet Jupiter, when it grew to be the, the giant of the solar system. It certainly would have had an. Effect on the orbits of other objects within. So the at his, you know, the, the, the basic picture, you've got a at a time when the solar system is looking more or less like it is now but, but still has a bit of a way to go on it may well have been that at that time that was one or as shown suggest, maybe a couple of planets within the solar system that were had orbit with disturbed by Jupiter. Now, what happened to them? We don't know one possibility a, you know, there is a smoking gun here, of course and not see the tilt of the planet. Uranus is tilted right over on his side, that can only have happened because of an impact with something pretty big probably something the size of the earth. And so one of the possibilities of, of a planet that's got lost is that it was the object that not Iranians over an in that collision was. Ejected from the solar system. That's a distinct possibility and we, you know, we expect to find what you might call from planets in the solar system. And maybe the son has got one or two of those that a lost to the sun, a now somewhere on their own in interstellar space. We do know that there are objects out there. Exactly, as you've said, which have no parent star to, to have them orbiting around. It is possible that there are planets that would have formed in that situation from clouds of gas and dust, where, you know places where where what we call star nurseries, there are, there are the stars and planets forming from these clouds of gas, industies possible. The, the low mass end of that individual planets formed with nothing to go around, but it's likely that the often planets that we observe, at least some of them have come from solar systems. Maybe. One of them's come from ours somewhere. So, yes, the possibilities there, it does throw into question, something we've discussed before, and that is planet, nine Putin. Could it be the road planet that we talking about? It's possible a planet nine a hypothetical world, maybe four or five times the size the mass of the earth. Why do we think it's there because there is there a curious alignments in the orbits of some of the, the objects in the Kuyper belt, this distant asteroid belt, the one between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, but won't be on the opposite net. Tune there's about vic- asteroids, which we call the COPA bells that has objects within it, which are definitely aligned in their orbits on the suggestion is that there is a big planet way, way out in the depths of the solar system, which is doing that alignment, which is shepherding them together. And it's very likely that, that object would have an orbit. That's highly illegal. Ical itself glue words. It's very, very elongated. And so that could be an object. That was, you know, dealt a blow, or some sort of gravitational disturbance early in the history of the solar system. But wasn't thrown out the solar system itself. It would just pushed into a very long robe it. Yes. So the, the two could be connected. The only way we'll really tell down is if we actually find planet nine which so far has not happened the definitely looking for it. But now but as you say, the evidence is strongly, suggesting it's they, which is, which is can't spun. It is not an easy to find. No, it's not because where we think it is right in front of the Milky Way, which is not good place to be if you try to find a very slowly moving object among the styles. Well, we will. I think we'll Nile it down sooner or lineup of two and thanks for your question, Sean. Hopefully we answered it. But yeah you were right on the money. We'll move onto a question. Now. From India to the United States and Hello to Jeremy, in San Francisco, he says, hi, Andrew and Fred of bene- fan for the last couple of minutes is listened to nearly all of your episodes nearly all of them for it. So he's listened to three and lightning, and you do a great show. I've been carrying this question around for years, and never had someone to ask who knows enough in the field to answer while you asking Fred. I've also searched online and check some videos on the subject, but still don't find the answer. I'd love to know. So the universe is expanding and by Redshift we see the expansion is accelerating and you've discussed on your show that we know this because we say, great orig- shifting galaxy that further away and we know which are further away because of standard candles, but those furthest away galaxies of the ones whose light is sent to us longest ago. How is this incorporated? In other words, why can't we also say the greatest? Redshift from the light emitted longest ago, therefore expansion was faster longer ago than it is recently, and therefore expansion is slowing. Yeah, it's a great question. Jeremy, I think I get what you're asking. I think the way to answer this is to forget all about the acceleration because that's a relatively recent discovery it was discovered. Well twenty years ago, austere. It was discovered in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight by well branch Murphy here in strategy in a group over in the United States simultaneously so before that the, the most. The bedrock of our understanding was simply the expansion of the universe itself was discovered in nineteen twenty nine to four for seventy years, whole, we really knew that the universe was expanding. And dot comes from the exactly the observation Jeremy that you've mentioned. It's the further away. You look the greater the Redshift of an object. And by that we mean the greater is it's recession away from us, the Redshift of an object is it's, it's the way slide is moved to the red end of the spectrum because of the fact that the universe itself is expanding. So. Hubble's law states that I think it's now cold, the Hubble lameta law because shortly matter was a Belgian priest who was also instrumental in this research at the time back in the nineteen twenties. Anyway, just finale, the Hubble number law says that the further away an object is the faster is it's recession, and that's just a straightforward observation. But it turns out that if you have a universe that is uniformly expanding. So it's expanding everywhere at the same, right? From your vantage point on one of the objects that sort of taking the expansion everywhere. You look you say things that seem to be moving away from you faster the further way that they are so that observation that the higher the Redshift the greater the distance. In other words, a high of the recession velocity, the greater the distance, that's the basic principle of a uniform expansion. It tells you nothing about what that expansion has changed. And in fact, the Hubble in its most basic form says the expansion has been the same since the beginning. It it's actually only in the last few years that we've been able to refine that by looking as Jeremy mentions standard candles standard line sources which which of the supernova explosions, and it was those that sensually give you a different way of measuring the distance which you can use to check the, the Hubble relationship itself. And what you find is that the Hubble relationship is still led that the further away something is the graduates, right? Chieftains but was a very slight change in it, which tells you that at about, you know, half the age of the universe. The expansion started to accelerate that they things further away than you would expect them to be answered. Folks. So, well, you got Jeremy because it's a subtle effect. But the bottom line is, it's just the basic expansion that gives you the shift. Chip determination. So the speed is not absolutely relevant in the in the in the Redshift effect. But there's a slot variation that also proves that the celebration is continuing. Yes, it's the acceleration is the really subtle observation. That's why it took his still nineteen Ninety-Eight to discover it is been confirmed many times since then, by the ways. So it's, it's well, well known. In other words, Jeremy, both happening. Yeah. That's right. Sure. Sure. And thanks for your question. We appreciate it. Have we covered it? I've, we sort of hit the right Nile on the head for you. And thanks to everyone is Santa's questions. We've got some fresh ones in the other day. We'll get to those we just thought we'd better get into the backlog, because couple of people. So this question's a little wall back. So we thought we'd better get onto the is, is a few, we're going to have to review because the sort of asking questions. Are a little bit out they so we might have to think harder about those. But thank you everybody for listening. Thank you. Fred as always, it's a pleasure under when we look forward to be able to share something about the event Roy's until the school, very soon indeed, unless they cancel the press conference. Which, you know that happens that happens too soon. Fred, thank you. So you let you Fred, what's an astronomer at large from Andrew Dunkley. Thanks again, for listening will catch you next time on another edition of space nuts. To this podcast. Subscribe to the full podcast on James and stitch-up or your favorite podcast distributed. This is another podcast production from thoughts dot com.

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The Push to Expand Covid-19 Testing in the U.S.

"I asked what kind of family she wanted. She said a family like yours. Learn more about adopting a team at adoptuskids dot org. You can't imagine the reward brought to you by the us department of health and human services adoptuskids and the ad council a coronavirus testing capacity in the us is expected to climb in the new year along with an increase of at home tests. And the next couple of weeks or months. You're probably going to see more of those start to enter the market. We talked to our reporter about how the testing ramp-up might play out plus china's coming down hard on one of its biggest and most powerful business empires and white. Christmas may sound different this year. It's thursday december twenty fourth. I'm kief collins. Filling in for mark stewart for the wall street journal. And this is what's news more than one million covid nineteen. Vaccinations have now been administered in the us. That's according to the cdc. The agency also says that a total of nine and a half million vaccines have been distributed in the country so far including shots developed by moderna as well as by pfizer and instrument partner biontech will talk about the push to expand coronavirus testing in the us. Later in the show. Chinese tech. billionaire. Jack mas companies are facing a pair of regulatory clampdowns market regulators in china said they are launching an antitrust investigation into e commerce giant alibaba will other officials said they plan to urge mas big fintech company and group to implement financial regulations and other rules for more. Here's the journals. China bureau chief. Jonathan chang jack ma. The founder of an aunt coop has been in the crosshairs of regulators for a few weeks now since he gave a speech late october in which he took aim at regulators and described them as being out of touch and out of date. That obviously didn't go over very well not only with regulators but also with some of the traditional industries. That were being disrupted for many years. Jack ma and alibaba were celebrated as examples of chinese innovation. But now it looks like they may actually become an example of excess of creeping into too many industries and ignoring regulators For the sake of growth and ultimately causing social instability. i think that's what the authorities are in large part concerned about partly because some of the loans that ant was giving out were raising questions about the financial system and credit risk and things like that this practice the regulators are going for in the alibaba side that their not allowing merchants who sell on alibaba's platforms to also offer their wares on platforms. That's actually been going on for many years. So the question of why now does point a little bit towards this. This political question of of whether the authorities decided to act now because of that speech alibaba an aunt confirmed in separate statements that they had received notifications of the regulatory actions and vowed to cooperate. Alibaba's said that its businesses are operating as usual while ansett would seriously study and strictly comply with all regulatory requirements. Mock couldn't be reached for comment as we talked about on last night's podcast european union officials. Say they're close to an agreement with the uk on a post. Brexit trade deal discussions continued through the night and an agreement could be announced today. People familiar with the talks. Said negotiators are going through the fine print of the accord. A pakistani court today ordered the release of omar shake the british national who had been convicted in two thousand and two of murdering wall street journal. Reporter daniel pearl. That's according to shakes lawyer. And a government attorney. Both lawyers said the court ruled that shake be freed from a temporary detention order. That kept him in jail since his murder conviction was overturned earlier. This year On this last trading day before the long holiday weekend investors are keeping a close watch on developments out of the us in europe that are expected to have significant economic impacts joining us now from london as markets reporter caitlin ostrov. Good morning caitlin. Good morning so caitlyn. All i seem to be on the path to a post brexit trade agreement what will investors be looking for and what sort of market reaction might there be. Investors have really been watching the negotiations between the eu in the uk for clarity and certainty on what winds up happening to trade agreements after the new year and so there have been concerned that if the uk left the european union trade policies then there would be tariffs on more goods that have a negative impact on the economy. What investors are seeing in this new deal that is being proposed although we don't have a lot of indication of what that entails yet is that you know at least it is something. It is a sign that negotiations could possibly continue over anything that isn't resolved yet and it just gives a little bit more certainty and clarity to what investors can expect next year and looking at the news out of washington. How my traders respond to president. Trump's defense bill veto and the uncertainty surrounding the new coronavirus relief package for the virus relief. Bill it's really been a large focus for investors over the last couple of months. You know some of the economic data for the us has been less positive in recent weeks and so investors have really been looking at that as you know there needs to be more stimulus aid needs to be more money kind of get the us through this new left winter period to make sure about the economic rebound comes through next year and investors are also looking at the size and scope at this package to assess how much larger the us rebound rebound might be against other areas other countries and so the stimulus package and what it means for economic growth is one of the things that will be a prime focus as we head into the near caitlyn australia. Thanks very much just ahead. We'll look at the increasing efforts in the us to expand testing for the corona virus. After the break you took the first step and quit smoking but even former smokers may still be at risk for lung cancer. That's why save by the scan dot org wants you to know about a new low dose. Ct scan that can detect lung cancer. Early it takes only sixty seconds and could save your life. You took the first step now. Take the next visit. Save the scan dot org for simple quiz to see if you're eligible and talk to your doctor about screening saved by the scan dot org is brought to you by the american lung. Association's lung force initiative and the ad council even as the number of americans vaccinated against covid nineteen surpasses one million the pushes on to expand testing for the coronavirus. The us is expected to go from performing seventy million tests a week in january. Two two hundred million a week in april according to the rockefeller foundation for more on. Why and what has to happen first. We brought in. Wsj health reporter brianna abbott. She spoke with our charlie turner. Brianna thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. So who is leading this. Push for a major ramp-up in testing. So it's coming from a lot of places. I you have public health experts. Who say that. We need more testing. As a way to sort of bridge the gap of before enough people get vaccinated and sort of bring down case counts and potentially get people back into work in classrooms. And you're seeing demand from everyone from large companies to schools and the test makers themselves sort of are expecting it to be ramping up their testing efforts for this versatile future with a vaccine now being distributed. Can you talk more about why. There's such an emphasis on testing. The vaccine is starting to get distributed which is great but it still likely going to be months until it's wide enough and available and right now. The virus is still raging out of control and so public health. Experts say that we need to continue to use our method methods such as mask wearing social distancing to hopefully bring down the spread of the virus and along with that you know people also need to get back to work in school and so we're trying to use some of these mitigation methods which includes wider testing in order to stop the spread of the virus and sort of get people in to more of a new normal. Let's talk more about this brianna. How are we going to achieve this kind of growth and testing so a lot of the growth according to the rockefeller foundation who is sort of responsible for the estimates. They've been a lot of the growth is gonna come from three areas. Sort of one. Is these point of care. Tests that you see. In doctor's offices schools that sort of thing one that a healthcare provider has to do. But it's not in the laboratory and then the other that's likely to start becoming more available are tests that you can do and get the result completely by yourself at home and third is the potential to pool multiple patient samples into one test which is a technique called pooling which is already in use. It's not very widespread right now and you're probably gonna see it ramp up as well. Are there new kinds of tests being developed and approved by regulators. Yes so recently over the past couple of weeks. The biggest change that we've seen is the us food and drug administration has started clearing a handful of tasks that you can completely do yourself and get the results back at home now. Those the access to those is sort of extremely limited right now. You can't really get them anywhere yet. They were just approved in the last week or so but in the next couple of weeks or months. You're probably going to see more of those start to enter the market. What about increased testing of a symptomatic people. Yes so. That is one of the big initiatives that some companies are starting to push now to especially as some larger employers like netflix. Or google are starting to offer testing to screen their employees who may not have symptoms and the whole idea. Is we think that up to forty percent of people who have the virus. Don't actually have any symptoms but they can still walk around and spread the virus which is contributing to the cases. We're seeing and so. The idea is screening people regulatory finding people who are infectious but maybe not necessarily symptomatic and pulling them sort of out of contact with other people an attempt to stop the spread and sort of as there's more cases in the community. You're like to see a bigger push. Four screening to sort of pick those cases out wall street journal. Health reporter brianna abbott. Thanks a lot. Briana thinks they're having me and finally christmas will look different to many people this year and it will also sound different. Usually you'd likely be able to hear hundreds of people belting out carols like hark the herald angels sing but this year churches have been wrestling with how to safely mark the most festive seasons. Congregation numbers are being capped and carolers are being asked to Rather than sing given how singing can pose a corona virus safety risk. Some churches organizing christmas sing alongs and parking lots online or it services was significantly reduced musical. Offerings are putting together at home worship. Kits you can read all about how this tradition is adapting to the pandemic on wsj.com. And that's what's news for thursday. We're back tonight with new show. You can see up to date with all their latest stories on wsj.com and the journal at i'm keith collins. With the wall street journal thanks for listening.

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EPILOGO | B1 GANG ADVENTURE AND MYSTERY SERIES BOOK 7 SERIES FINALE + SHOUTOUTS

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04:03 min | 9 months ago

EPILOGO | B1 GANG ADVENTURE AND MYSTERY SERIES BOOK 7 SERIES FINALE + SHOUTOUTS

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Wall Street Breakfast October 4: September  Jobs Report Front And Center

Wall Street Breakfast

04:48 min | 1 year ago

Wall Street Breakfast October 4: September Jobs Report Front And Center

"Welcome to Health Wall Street breakfast your daily source of market news analysis subscribe to this podcast on Apple podcasts podcasts certified and Stitcher Good Morning today is Friday October fourth and I'm your host. Steve Brown our top stories today September jobs report front and center he you will respond to US tariffs. Germany's MAS says and apple orders ten percent boost to iphone eleven production leading leading today's news all eyes will be on the September jobs report as investors look for clues on whether the Federal Reserve is likely to cut rates later this month this comes after economic omic reports that depict the contracting manufacturing sector and weaker-than-expected growth in the services sector stock index futures are midst with the Nasdaq. SNP Endow L. all down point three percent in Asia Hong Kong's Hang Seng index closed down one percent as the city imposed emergency power to ban facemask as protests. Let's continue across the Atlantic. The Stock Zero six hundred index rose point three percent in other news the EU will take retaliatory Tori measures in reaction to new US tariffs on European goods German Foreign Minister Haykal Mas told newspapers the e you will have to react and after obtaining the approval level of the WTO probably impose punitive tariffs as well. He said the comments come after the WTO ruled that subsidies EU states paid to play maker Airbus where illegal bill allowing the US to slap tariffs on seven point five billion dollars the products exported to the US facing unexpectedly higher demand and apple has told suppliers to boost production of the iphone eleven by up to ten percent. Nikei reports the up to eight million unit increase. Just a more budget minded focus in the new. I phones is paying off in higher shipments and the lowest end model is receiving the biggest order surge suppliers on watch Friday include broadcom Qualcomm Corbeau oh TSMC sky works LG display and lament him south banks. She son is struggling to raise funds for vision Asian Fund to the company's Second Massive Technology Investment Fund Reuters reports that comes after recent missteps including the failed IPO of we work and falling valuations nations and other investments while the fun claimed one hundred and eight billion dollars lined up at the launch this summer. The only large committed about so far is thirty eight billion from southbank itself off BP named Bernard Lucy currently head of the energy companies upstream operations to succeed Bob Dudley SCO after a forty forty year career with BP Dudley who became CEO soon after the deepwater horizon disaster will step down as CEO and from the board in February and will retire at the end end of March loony who joined be in one thousand nine hundred ninety one as a drilling engineer will join the board on February fifth he'll continue in his current role until then US lobbying of Indonesia health loosen local regulations opposed by Card Networks Visa and Mastercard Reuters reports. The change means US US card companies can process transactions without a local partner making for a more lucrative arrangement the US trade representative tied the rule changes to Indonesia keeping privileged trade status that gets the country lower tariffs on two billion in annual exports to the US shopping mall vacancies hit an eight-year high according to data from Moody's Analytics Res Some nine point. Four percent of units were unoccupied in Q. Three equalling a post financial crisis high reached in twenty eleven the data which tracks seventy-seven metro areas found that seventeen cities had a vacancy rate under seven percent with San Francisco leading with four point one percent rate on the other hand twenty four cities had vacancy rates above twelve percent including Memphis Buffalo and Albuquerque as of six twenty pm today. US futures are all set to open in the red with crude oil and gold slightly up on today's economic calendar. Nonfarm payrolls are out at eight thirty am eastern time that includes today's. Wall Street breakfast thank you for listening the best investment analysis and news on the web dot COM subscribe to this podcast cast on apple podcast Google podcasts spotify stitcher. You can sign up for other podcasts behind the idea referees. Let's Hook ups cannabis US investing podcasts and marketplace roundtable almost five phones as well have a great day.

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Apollo Protection Agency - Episode 72: Distressed for Success

Southern Tomfoolery Plays

1:07:14 hr | 1 year ago

Apollo Protection Agency - Episode 72: Distressed for Success

"Welcome to season two possum kingdom. We are so excited to start this adventure and for this. I am joined by none other than Ziva herself Emily Summerlin. How're you doing I? Am so good. You know season two good. I'm going to be good. About might as well be season two good. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for joining me on this intro. We wanted to just take a moment to talk about the. tonal shift of the adventure that we're going to. We're into a horror campaign, and with that comes a certain shift in the content that you'll be hearing and so. I got. I got emily on here to help me kind of just. Give a little bit of a content warning. Talk a little bit about some possible triggers that that could come up in this and I wanNA. Start off by first reading the content warning straight out of the book. So this is out of the signal screams adventure path book, says this adventure path contains typical star finder action adventure, but be warned that it also present scenarios in which horrifying things happen to the PC's and the NPC's around them. The events presented in this adventure path fall into the realm of body, horror and psychological horror, which can include disfigurement mutation parasitism. self-mutilation injury in the aftermath of such unpleasantness, and it goes on to suggest that before. Beginning this a pe- that. Player, consent is the most important thing to consider and so emily can talk a little bit about some of the things that we did to prepare for this. Absolutely so one of the things that we did. Is We sort of talked about essentially just water some some hard limits for us. What our boundaries for us as individuals that we don't want to touch on or that we should. Or that atom should know going into it. You know to be aware of Hey. This is something that I really am not comfortable. Having in game is essentially because we're first and foremost friends and we don't want to. Create. An unsafe space or a? We're trying to make entertaining. And sometimes you know are. It's fine, but also we're humans, so, but checking in with each other I think in this whenever you play any game It's important to get. This may sound an aggressive word, but consent from your players from your from your from your teammates. so. We just kind of. Essentially did kind of Accession Zero I. Guess in a win over some things that we. That would like Adam just read off the book scripture and We just kind of. Checked in with each I don't necessarily WANNA go too in depth. Oil or anything. But just know that all of us. Connected and made sure that each one of our crew members was okay moving forward and that there wasn't going to be anything that was unsettling or disturbing to the to the point of detriment. Well and not being, said we, we only have the ability to to know what our limits are, and so let this serve is just a general content warning four season to that as we move into horror there, there are going to be some horrific things you know in, so be mindful. We don't want anybody getting caught off. Guard in. You know that. Part of our Mo is that we like to dig deep into the psyche of are player characters in that you know are flashbacks. Being kind of go into for more Hor vibe, there is potential first. Triggering scenes in, so we'll do our best to mention those before any episodes, but. At the same time. We don't know what's too far for all of you listening so this is this is saying. This is where we're going. These are some of the things that you can expect to see but. At the end of the day were still southern Tomfoolery and were having trying to have fun. Playing Star Finder Game So. This is fantasy. This is Hor were moving forward now that that's said and done, let's get excited because we're about to start season two proper right here right now right now. I've been excited. And so without any further ado we are GonNa Start Episode Seventy. Two of our podcast called distressed. For success. Joey. Ten years ago. The BLACK SMOTHERING BLANKET OF SPACE Fills view. The stars. What few can be seen? Seemed to be dimmed by the shadows of the void. Out here on the edge of the diaspora, the oppressive nature of nothing, this weighs heavily. This desolate landscape is suddenly interrupted is too small star ships jet into the fray. These ships are painted solid black. Would almost be impossible to see. If it weren't for the bright white. Skull and crossbones painted crudely on the holes. We follow the pirate ships as they cut a swath around the inky black. In the lights of their engines and search beams reveal large asteroid suspended in the void. Lou Me like a sleeping giant. The crackle of static sounds as the to star ships opened their communication channels. There she is run free. I told you that it was there. All right all right Mas-, calm down you one you. Twenty credits shut up. Let's in a scandal. The asteroid before relent. rent-free punches a few buttons on his console. And sends a Ping to the silent shadowy rock. Escape continues. But as renfrew taps, the readout nothing comes back. Dent, he would think with all the plants that boss buys. He would have some money to these shit buckets. Well foreign right `bout disrupt. Debbie played diamonds and gems. Would be able to buy all new fight. The boskin by I'll moon to plant his little bushes. Let's go. Without waiting for Winfrey's response. Mas- engages his thrusters and directs the ship right to the surface of the asteroid. muttering curses under his breath. Renfrew follows his partner. After landing in suiting up renfrew MAS- disembark from their respective ships and check each other's suits to make sure everything is sealed properly. And they switch on their helmet calms. All right mass. I know this is your find. Not Take that from you, but let me take lead on this. I experienced working minds and I. Don't want you accidentally causing a in I. Show sure that scout lead. While us. Ren Free notices that Mazuz eye twitches as he says boss. But been chalked up to his nerves being on an asteroid with an abandoned mine. After spending some time searching for the entrance to the mine, the two pirates descend into the empty hollows of the asteroid. About an hour into their descent, both of their helmet comes suddenly crackle to life as shrill static fills their ears. The pain is sudden and intense and rent-free buckles to his knees, throwing his hands to his helmet ears, despite knowing that it would do no good. Blood begins to trickle from his ears and nose, and then the sound is gone. He looks to mass to check on. Mazda's still standing ears and nose, also bleeding, but instead of a look of pain or fear, renfrew just sees an unsettling smile plastered on his partners face. Renfrew is just about to ask him if he is okay, but before he can say a word. Begins Cackling with increasing intensity in madness. Renfrew gets from his knees, hurries over to his partner, and grabs him by the shoulders, shakes him violently to try and stop the man's hideous laughter, but it seems the more he shakes him the louder the laughter gets. Winfrey now full of anxiety fear. Finally shoves mass to the ground. The pirate lands hard on his tailbone, and his laughing immediately stops. The Eerie Smile is replaced with a dull vacancy. Mess Nice are you okay? Come back me. Pal. Come on. Mass simply looks back to rent free with a blank stare. Okay. We'll get out of here. Something is off. Let's go. At, renfrew, suggestion of departure, Mas- leaps back to his feet with almost supernatural speed and grace, his empty expression, now replaced with fierce determined anger. No, I don't think so. There's something powerful down here. You can't stop it. Boss can't stop it. No wouldn't can, so you're coming with me and you will say the beauty you see. See. You will see. And as mass continuing to motor the words you will see as an almost eerie mantra turns to begin to descend further into the abandoned mine. Renfrew reaches to grab his friend intending to drag him back to the surface, but in a flash MAS- spins on winfrey in grabs his arm. There's a brief moment where time seems to stop for infantry and he meets masses gaze. The pirates is have gone completely black, and what looks like ink Rolls Out of Mazuz tear ducks, the unsettling smile returns followed by the maniacal laughter, as mass begins to twist, rent free arm. feel pain reading. It is the truth at his PR. It is. You will see. Renfrew cries out in pain as MAS- continues to twist his arm. He can feel his bones break at the shoulder. Then the ligaments snap one by one and with horror. He helplessly watches as mass tears his arm from his body. As drops renfrew arm to the cold rocky floor of the mineshaft turns again to descend further. Winfrey is in shock and pain. He sobs and before he can turn to run. Mas- slams his fist, superhuman strength into the wall, rocks begin tumbling from the ceiling of the shaft until cascade of Rocks Cave in renfrew only escape. Not knowing what else to do. Winfrey activates his suits. Automated Medical Augmentation and watches as the suit begins to seal the wound first then renewed the fibers of the techno match pre fabric. Out knowing why having nowhere else to go, inexplicably, being compelled by the residual static renfrew follows mass. Deeper into the caves. After another hour of gloomy terrified marching rent-free in Mas- arrive at a large cavern that is scattered with an inexplicable mix of mining gear and scientific laboratory equipment. Even in rent-free shock and pain. He's able to realize that this lab equipment shouldn't be here and he tries to wrap his brain around this incongruity. But before he can even begin to unravel that thread, the awful static fills his ears again. The pain is unbearable and in a panic. Renfrew takes off his helmet only to realize his last breath that the sound is coming through the very walls of this capital. As Winfrey hopelessly gasped for breath. His last fading site is of mass walking to a singular red light in the center of the cave. His friend, his partner in crime for fifteen years is now consumed by this nation. Bathed in red light almost makes him look like he is covered in blood. Renfrew collapses the ground as he strings to shut up to his friend, but MAS- is wholly entranced by the sound. MAS- reaches his hand out to touch the red beacon, and as he does, so his skin begins to peel back from his fingertips and up his arm. Renfrew finally succumbs to death, watching his friend being flayed alive by some unseen. Entity yet, masters, laughs and screams you well. The camera pans out from the grisly scene. Back through the shaft. Back to the surface. Back to the to pirate ships. Back Away from the asteroid. The shot pulls away from the asteroid and again falls into shadows disappearing into the void, the only signs of its president. Are the sounds of static and laughter. Emanate from its coordinates. All we see is the black emptiness of space across the screen, crackling interview with static. Signals screams. I'm about it well. That bodes well. That sounds like a really exciting premise. I'm sure nothing bad will come of that. Time on our vacation, come back to. And just. Go. To Utah. And the Oscar goes to. I'd like to give you an expiration. Thank you. Yeah here we are at the first episode. Proper a signal screens. Welcome welcome. How's everybody doing this afternoon? Now. That was good now. Great, yeah! It only took a whole season and trying to scare the pants off you to get a legit I'm excited to be here response. You know at least for me. It's like I can only get Iraq. Trying to be kosher, but yes, thank you for being. Pervert translator. I'll be your spirit God thanks. For those of you who are joining us for the first time on season two first of all why, but second of all I'll just give you the benefit doubt that this is where you wanna come in so. Let me. Just introduce the crew for you for season two. We have returning to southern Tomfoolery. How you doing buddy, I'm good man I'M A. I'm really excited a little nervous. I'm not a big horror buff, or even fan, but I have been trying to put the work in and like watch some movies to get myself in the in the head space. Watch the horizon. That's a that's a good one to to start with. For sure, it's not a good movie, but it fits the vibe really I. Think it's A. It's a very good movie. Definitely like a B. movie at NASA Oh. Bad though. Right. You know there's a difference my in films enjoyed watching it there you go. Okay. The somebody who I can't believe is still here despite all of the the shit that we give him. Josh thanks for returning for season two men. It's it's good to see you here I mean I. Appreciate you having me, but I honestly don't know why you do. We love you. I mean despite all the Shit we do love you oh. Yes. It's good to be I'm really really looking forward to this. I remember you talking about it. I think before we even started doing the podcast and saying that this was something you wanted us to play through specifically me so. I can't wait to get fucked by you. Word. This phrasing I'm going to have to download the sad trombone out for John. I wouldn't I wouldn't hate it. Speaking somebody that I don't hate, but she confuses me almost every time. We talk emily how you doing. Good. How are you? Great I know you're excited for this You're literally bursting out of the screen giving me the HE GV so. I'm pretty jazzed about this the more. I kind of. Kind of like he says you know since we. Were getting close to starting is geared up and I started reading a bunch and. Even watch some movies That were horror in specific to like the the particular genre. We're about to go into to get fired up about it and I. Am in fact fired up, so yeah I mean. Well. I, I'm glad that you hear and I'm I'm looking forward to to terrorizing you along with everybody else including our resident grump of the group Zach how you doing. Are you okay with that title? Still being your title? I mean I think it's. Unfair but. It's a shoe fits well bruins. True. I'm good man. I. We'll say you're grumpiness is not like dourness. It's it's A. It's a level bowl. It's a lovable grumpiness that keeps US grounded so I'm glad that you're here, too. I think you're going to have the biggest struggles with this campaign. I'm looking forward to I. Don't know how much you are, but I think you're gonna now. You're making me really question you know now. I'm doubting it. I was like all four hours all in my. The biggest roses can't. See begins is begins. You gotTA start. Playing those mind game he is I listened to the STF. You were you were talking to Stephen Griff and I. Concur exactly what you said that you know. You're Yup player, agency and concern, and yes, that's where it is right, yeah! John, you're here, but I thought a I've got rid of your character. Yeah, yeah, he did, but I. don't go away that easily. A little bit hard out here. I'll tell me. I mean I just kind of figured I just kind of stick around and just be that guy in the back. Just kind of like laughing and. Like the the producer in some like a Howard stern type shows somebody in. A or the guy that just kind of like make side jokes off to the side like and like those late night shows. Hype Man exactly okay, so he can do Foley work. It'll be. With folly work in any kind of NPC's, you don't have any I mean you can't quite do right right well. If only the were something that I could actually do actually know that the rest of you are very excited to to meet John's new characters. We've been sitting on this for for a while and. I the the will be lifted tonight, Zeno songs. Matinee! Canoe it. My name is Adam I am the of southern Tomfoolery or at least this adventure that we're doing? It's my pleasure to be here sharing this with all of you listening and of course sharing with all five of you, some of my closest friends. I have to get that sweetness in what I can because we're about to dig into a horror campaign and I am. More than thrilled, so let's get right into it, shall we? Now! We cannot like just put to a vote. Let's just not have John Rollo. Character and be exclusively to sound effects. Man I think that like. I think it'd be a bold new direction for the pipe. Bursts pivoted the new season. there. We go here for the voice. Yeah, like like home-brewed Science. John's Gump. Welcome Boo, but we last left the the crew heading towards. newly seem resort and. They were all excited I know that the captain was excited to go check out some potential competition, but also kind of have a vacation with her crew and. you know. Get to Kinda show off I. Think is what you said right? He wants show off the the APA. Your your new. Partners here. Show off what they can. They can bring that right. Yes Ziva is extremely excited. She's ready to show off all of her super awesome crew and comrades and work, compatriots, and if the guys aren't as excited that's fine. She will strong arm them into being excited, or at least pretending to be in front of other people so yeah, yeah. Okay well. We are going to kind of. Start tonight as you guys are coming out of the drift. You know right there at the drift beacon it's. The where newly Siham is! and. You know as as you're kind of sliding out of the drift. Year Terry comes over the speaker and says. I am intersecting a distress call. Would you like me to put it on the comes? Yes. They put it up. On the on the so terry kind of you here to the comes out over your intercom system and you can kind of hear this this exchange. Shuttle goal, run up to newly security. We end up. Tack requested immediate assistance. The response quick acknowledged goal. Runner were on our way hanging there. They'll never get in Tom Buzz. Blades of familiar voice to Mike with a gravelly voice. Give it up and we'll Lisi on Ya. The transmission ends with laughter and hooting from what must be other ships in the area and let me drop you on a starship map. Because you guys just slipped out right in the middle of. A pirate attack. This ship called the goal runner all right. We're starting a second AP and the first combat starship combat again. You Call Shenanigans. Gotten better at it now. Some of US so a couple of things to impact their. Mike, you recognize that voice, you'd know anywhere. As Garden NGO. Is it okay hunkered? I noticed in the intro like Monologue or whatever that you had somebody mentioned the captain's little plants and I was like. Is that a guard Vince. So Yeah Mike definitely recognizes that as gardenias voice. So what you heard was this- exchange and you guys just kind of slipped in and at this point. Nobody knows you're there so I'll give you like a few seconds to kind of talk it out as Yeah I mean immediately I kept in. I'm like. A hundred percent sure. That voice! Was Mild. Garden Giradi! To God. I used to run within the gang. I. Well that's certainly something. Put the fuck. Is He doing out here? What what? I Don I mean imagine he's you know Pyre Guinan. yes, gaming of. Yes, gang. Share it. But what did I say Buzz Blades? Wondering? If I had misheard that GM, they say bus plates did say. BUZZWORD could ask Terri. Basically. Jerry. Yes, they said. They seem to be under great distress. Did, and so what you see is three ships surrounding. A shuttle transport. This is what they look like. Pirate ships. Here's the transport. Ship as well. So, yeah, what are you guys want to do? What Lauren will from the pilot's seat. Look back the crew and say oh. They said it'll be a great time. Start Buckling up like his presence, everybody, buckle up! We go in hot. I mean my Michael Start heading to the guns, or whatever and be like if. This correctly, it seems like. Oh God NGO in the gardeners, or whoever is running with now are trying to. Harass and Harangue Inc.. Some buzz blades players so like. Maybe. Let's save my dad's favorite burress team from my former mentor. Okay. Well, then let's get into it as we're. GonNa Start here. starship combat, so we go round one. Engineering phase. fells definitely just going to boost the engines. To Stop, right there boom, please boosting the engines Paul Right I love it. let me get that role It's a natural automatic success. Right Nice. I mean you have a nineteen actually. Let me let me double check engineering. Oh No, since we, it's not anymore. I don't like that. So I just need one or two and I got a on the die, so we're good. All right. Yup In that case you the engines you know you can feel. In the Yolk? Orrin as the power, just kind of. That familiar boost of fells, power and we're going to be. That's the good stuff. Yeah, WE'RE GONNA go in to. The Helm Phase Helm Phase Initiative captain is going to. Encourage our attempt to encourage or and. Okay, yeah, not super does with a twenty four sh. Let's get in there quickly and Seattle we can knock this out to take too much time before we get to the SPA. Okay. Yes ma'am and I think is gonNA. Is GonNa? Do It That's going to be a big old. Thirty two with my bonuses and then plus whatever Ziva gives me. Okay so you get a way to. Encourage. So that's a thirty four total on your pilots, check. Alright well, just barely so the goal runner. The the Buzz Blade shuttle ship is going to have to go I, and it is going to move its way into this asteroid field. So what you guys are seeing listeners home. The epoch tracer is on. We're going to say the west side just, but you know we're in space so karnal don't matter, but if you're looking at the map, it's on the west side and there's a big asteroid feel in between them and the conflict between the pirate ships and the shuttle ship. Now. There's a bit of. Mechanics here with the. Asteroids you can actually shoot them. You can try to fly through them so they're not just. There is ways to interact with them. If that's something you WanNa, do. The goal runner itself is going to use its action to. TRY TO LOSE THE SHIPS IN ASTEROID field. So You're going to see it fly. Toward you? then. The raiders are going. Take their pilot. They have good maneuverability so. Right so one flies around. In Ames it's forward art towards the goal runner. Another one is going to attempt a flip and burn. And is going to be successful. That's also the Front Arc. And the final one is also gonNA try Burns. All right and then a successful. Okay. Is it. Is it us now? So I think just we just charge in right like my nose is not quite pointed at the at the at the correct. You are facing. Oh within an that puts us going straight through and asteroid so. which you can try to do, it's a separate piloting check to get through the space. You know okay. Either you'll the space. It's a matter of how if you do it. Without hitting asteroid on the way. I think just A. I think I'll do. Is Maneuver Okay. So that is one that I haven't ever really done before, but basically you move your normal speeds. Let's can be ten hex would fails boost, but you reduce the distance between turns by one to so just basically increases your maneuverability. For turn, so we'll try that. It's a DC twenty four on the piloting. I think I'm going to get at the Moment Guy Natural Nineteen sixteen I think that's going to get it or in has turned into such a bad s Fuckin-. Chip Jockey I mean you don't WanNa fuck around what you boy on the ship lay all right, so it's two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and ten, and we just orange, just kind of fall. Roll Up, you know. Keep flying towards the action. as you fly in you. Hear over the COMMS. Gardens you say. I knew I'd see a here. Why don't you join us in collecting these goods? Oh God then zero got Ngo. HOW ABOUT YOU PISS OFF! My father would be really disappointed if you kill dim. DIM buzzed blades plants. We're not GONNA kill them. Too much for that. Let's go to the gunnery face. All right. and. As soon as he says that I'M GONNA fire. How do we know which of these ships he's in? Scanner anything. Okay. Yes, are range of anything right now? Are Asteroids kind of in the way to. Have a shot. Go to somebody else. You may have a shot on the southernmost one. This one down here I'd say you could get a shot on that one from your. Voted that. Kerry charrette or one of our board weapon I'm trying to figure out the rangers. The only long range we have is the. When was the time? We don't have anymore well. No turrets I'm sorry. Short range as well. So both sides are short short before it is the nuke while which is long range. So. You have a shot, but you're gonNA take some minuses. because. It's out of range. How how many increments? What's what's the range six six squares? star versus short, so it's less five exes so every five. Heck's is you get a minus two attack role? To. Manage for been minus four yeah. Yeah I'll attempt to shot with it even with the minus board. That'll be with the minus four a twenty. Twenty. Geraldo twelve I have a plus two bonus s going to be. A see as well right. That's not target. What are you? Are you using computers? I've I would like to and that would put twenty two. yes, so with the computers. That's a hit. Yes three. Three Yep Three three points and finished. Okay, that's GonNa hit it on four art. Right. Biz I mean he's still on the COMS. He is. You can talk to go ahead and roll my yet checks. Yeah I mean I I like start. I guess it's everything. Girls at Saint Thomas Starting to fire off your shot at the same time. Gardens out the last time I saw. You cleaned you clock. Don't make me do it again. For? This. I was coming here to help you only in Juneau that we can. I'm going to take to see. It's been tough for the GODMANIS. You fucking thing? and you know as you're having this conversation. Shots are being fired by all three ships and the bottom line. The. Middle Ones. When succeed, so that's three successful shots on the goal runner. And that's going to feel A. Laugh when you one shot did the whole fucking buzzed blades team right now and then like. Yeah great over. Over done. Man I just bought my dad one of their jerseys, too. Old now worth more right. They're dead. So? Yeah, it's pretty significant. Blast as two of those hit the forward Arco, the Golden Runner and one hits the Star Bird are. and it just eats shields. You can just see eat through the shields. Orange Kennedy goes up that's not good. Is that right seventy one damage. Jeez. They, I, mean they're out of this guy pretty much. The I mean they're still, but they don't look good. That is for sure. Just put them. Into critical hit range for. Critical effect so their weapons. Are Shot Okay? So at the top of round to. Terry comes over your comes and says. CANTU. I am detecting. Another vessel in the area. where? So? Would you like to use your turn to do science? Officer. I mean yeah, sure actions. All right so that happens in the helm phase right, so we're going to bypass the engineering phase and go right to the health face. Let's go ahead and get those pimples initiative roles. Can do through yeah, candidate. John! Why don't you go ahead and Roll Helm Phase Initiative? Won't. Role. He's playing space Goblin. So I rolled a twenty nine year old, twenty, nine and okay, so ship initiative goes off of pilot. Okay, so I rolled it thirty. Okay? This this this podcast ain't big enough which? I actually am playing Tom Cruise as maverick. QUIT! All right. So, what did you guys roll? What did you roll on? Twenty nine twenty nine, and would you roll John? Thirty. Thirty her case, so the raiders. Got The jump on this so once again. The gold runner is to try to evade. Turn here, so they're flying around this. Asteroid. Fly just you know just past you to try to not block? Block! You're out and you you hear them. Come over the COM- saying. Please help us. We had taken heads. All of US systems are critical I. Don't think that newly. In time in actually John you hear this over your comes as well all right. So then they moved, which is now I believe it's the epic tracers. Turn to move, and as you're about to make whatever maneuver you're about to make you hear garden Zeo again over the consent. Our Boys. But that's not him can't. Get, a, Lotta. y'All. Hey go you ten gallon hat. Making it worse. Listen! We don't have to do this, I mean. Even with family. As. I said I was coming to help. We're going to keep going after this goal runner but I'm going to actually head out view interested in all I have to say you can find me. A few clicks. Throughout the star system. Athletes. Slow you. Use Cardinal Directions and ads. Like a couple thousand, however far past. Whatever Star whatever station? It's easy for you to say. Either way he sends you some coordinates where you can meet him if you're interested and. He that's what he says now or new to fly and make your choice here. So what we'll do is kind of cut the ship. In front of the star runner. And runner kind of the goal runner, excuse me and like through the needle between those two asteroids. Cook. And just kind of like block their path. You know and just get end up right between those two. And You know turn to Mike and say. You get a good position now, buddy. All right. With that Fella you wanted to run a skin, so go ahead and give me. A computers checked lease right boy. At that. Yeah, you're going to have A. Believe a plus to to that because of your. Sincere. Here twenty. Actually you're going to have a plus. Ten. then. It's a thirty six. Okay so. Yes, you. See another ship that screen on your on your read out right and you kind of put that up for the whole crew to see, and he's on the southeast of the map. In popped up here. Okay so what you see. Is this kind of bluish purple ship Almost looks like a why. The cockpit, and then to kind of Finns come off the back of it. and then a X., you know extension off the front, and with a role that high I mean, you can determine a good bit about it that there's only one life form on board that that is a vest. Carry Him make. And model ship However, it's not in the typical color pattern. You know typically best ships are. Green. But this seems to be. Painted with a much more sleek finish with that kind of reflective, blue and purplish. Finish It's a tier six ship, and It. Has a good bit of firepower on. Dan Guys you see that. Gorgeous. Halen see if you'll help us out. Of? With that scandal. Id Tag like its name. You see where it should read out with that scan, but there there seems to be something like blocking that out. Flying under the radar. But. Yeah, you can bring them up on the cons for sure. You WanNa talk to this joking. Yes. Bell BE WE DO BOOP. Tries to. This unknown. Dark colored chip. Incoming ship state you're. Doing Great. Umar pervert what. That one. and. He opens a Haley Frequencies and. It looks like not the only one who had the distressed. This is the Casa door you sustained any injuries damage. No we are trying to secure safe passage for the goal run. These PIRATES! Can you do anything about them? Can you help us with this? Always of service. With that is going to go ahead and move on his turn. Which? is now you're everybody wants to be a pilot toes time to do pilots. She had Hard y'all Okay, so he's GonNa go with speed of ten. Go ahead and. Move. Half of this speech. He's GonNa actually glide. During the helm phase. which is going to put him at five? Way He can go ahead and kind of A. Wrap around this'll. Astroid So with a glide I. Don't think you can turn. So you'll have to glide through the asteroid space. A Nano can actually go right here right instead. Yes, there, we go, okay. But with a perfect maneuverability being tiny ship I can go ahead and just turn. Face the. The hostile. Okay so yeah, at this shit of just glides out from behind the asteroid, and has a a really great shot lined up and really. You see one ship peel off. And then you see the other two ships swarm in on the tracer. was that when you just go sideways? Pretty sure that's a glide. Glide in fact, yes, so it just. Glides over to get in the. ARC and see this other ship is going to. Look? Bad spot is going to. Move Intern, so it's now facing north on the Mat and we're now going to go into the helm face. John. We already went into health. Gunnery so we'll this. Let's start with the epic tracer. Yes, Captain, go ahead and is going to try something. That emily's probably going to fucking be terrible at. Let's see she's going to try and. Give orders. And she's going to try and do so to the gunnery to Michael. So, we'll see what set Dec fifteen pools me. Hey No no, so here's the question that failed the DC check arts visit the chat throughout your ducts therapy to. No his mobs the AP. What your decks! It's still are older seven. Emily, just emily's nothing to do with stats K.. Try to give orders, but. You've. Start, fumbling is when you try to talk about the weapons, systems and. Just looks at you with a cocktail, Brad. Happen. We're going on fucking vacation. So. Let me get that shot he. Yeah I guess I'm GonNA use the Tara light plasma cannon. In your aiming at which ship the only one that I a shot on. which would be facing east kicked? The one in the south like we can't see it and they can't see us. It's asteroid between us. That's a seventeen on the die for at twenty nine total. Get it on. That'd be to twelve. Rolled a twelve on the, I, I. And Eight on the second. Twenty damage when he damaged. Now is going into forward arc right. Yeah. True. That! Definitely puts the hurt on them. They are going to. Fire their shots. One shot really. so. What? Yeah, that's GonNa hit you for with a twenty. Six right that hits Yes all right so that is going to deal. A good chunk here. Sixty six damage. Fourteen damage to your forward arc. Get through the shield. All right and then. John. Take your shot. Okay, so being in the forward arc. He's going to go ahead and fire on the one. That's south the MP tracer with a coil. John K which arrange on the coil gun long perfect good then and I'm going to use a computer aid. All right. Nineteen on the attack. That's with the computers correct. That is GonNa Miss. Yes. Yes. That was a six on the die so. Yeah! I'm I'm going to. Start Okay. All right. So we're at round three back to the engineering phase fell science officer Engineering Fells going to. I mean I have to have to declare at the very beginning of the term. Yeah because you can only or call fail patch the shields. Yeah, good good call. What I was thinking. I WANNA shoot stuff. Divert power to shields and already did the math, so it's five percent of powercor's Max Rating, which is one seventy five that equals eight point seven five, so that roundup tonight y'all sweets up as his back at ten shields on the forward arc. Very, nice very nice. let's go to the hill phase. Then alright, then roll the helm phase. Thirty to. Twenty five, twenty five. Okay so go runner got last, and they're just GONNA. Keep Ronan basically and try to get themselves behind an asteroid which they do. I think you rolled the next lowest John All. Right. I mean roll the twenty five twenty five. Yes, album, so you? You can move now. All right. That he's going to go ahead and Give Chase isn't. GonNa. Move Sick about. Eight Texas. And then go ahead and turn to face towards. The southern writer! Yeah, the southern Raider perfect. Okay retied on our health phases Orrin so I'll go ahead. Go first. The fall to you is is the winner on that tie? And so. They're going to actually drift back a couple of spaces. In. This southern one is going to fly. Through those asteroids away from the encroaching. Shit on it is going to turn. As they do so? That okay, now you get to move or All right so ordinal say on the open. COM Channel I hate it when people start fights. They can't finish why you're running. And he will mood basically up towards them. So that's GonNa, be piloting, check their nineteen. AC Yeah. That's going to get. It doesn't get it thirty nine die so that's definitely gonNA. Get it so He'll just move up some. Kind of you know about four hatches so just giving chase. I mean right now we have. A perfect broadside on our port side against the one of them, and we have a perfect shot in short range. Gardens guardianship ship has flown off the map, but for to mention. For his movie. You got figure. Out because he's a little bitch. So yeah, so or just moves up Like I said you know he's talking Shit on the COMS. And Yeah. He's flying straight in evasively, so it's GonNa give us a little bonus tour. I see and T. Oh! All right. That's all the moves, so let's go into the gunnery phase. Captain Captain is going to act and this time. She is actually going to taunt. Ships She's going to go ahead and. Taunt the one that's furthest away from us. That is going to be. An intimidate. Okay. Yeah. So? That's going to be a thirty seven. So mechanically that is going to an. I don't know if I rolled before, but. that ship is going to take four this phase, a minus two penalty to all checks for four rounds. Wile okay, go ahead and roll that D. Four. Okay. Thirty. Surfer three rounds during the gunnery face. They take a minus two right and. The penalty increases to a mind sport. If the enemies check is made as part of a push action, so if they. Do An action that's considered Bush. It's a modest four house. They are. Literally shaking in their boots. In the whole of their ship and they actually cut the COMMS, Liau. So in the gunnery phase. What might GONNA do. You got a shot and you're. On your side too so. Yeah import port weapon. Dame. You could fire will fire both a minus four. It's up to you. I can I can fire. We'll I can shoot in broadside. Broadside. Wouldn't be as much damage as I would like and it cost her all I mean. Fire will result can hurt the one in the front. Row. That's the play men. Plane like. I'm saying I'll get more damage if I fire. In the forward. Yeah saying turn it in the New York. Yeah I can do that. Yeah to avoid them honest floors I'll spenders. So the resolve basically allows you to fire all the weapons in one arc without any penalty, but you have to send a result point way. All of these that'd be all four weapons could fire forward all forward old weapons in one arc. Specific Artaud Cap. Right. It would only be the tarrant and the nuke. So this is all going to the intimidated wind. Let's get that shop for shots multiple shots. while. He's doing this just like I. Don't have time for these fucking peons. Take Gulbuddin down a notch and. That is A. Thirteen on the. For a twenty five. Twenty five. Yeah, that'll hit nice. Okay! This is GonNa take a second because the tactical nuke is five eight twenty three damage off the tactical nuke. Hole. It'll be two D twelve off the turret. That's an eight. Seven eight. So fifteen on top of that. So, what's the total so's? It's thirty eight games. Holy. Yeah. there's several critical. Malfunctions! That are going to happen there. My goodness All right John. We get your. Gunnery all right so. I'M GONNA, go ahead and use computer plus three and I also going to fire just a tactical nuke. Okay so that is in your finding at the same one. Firing. Firing! At the one that's. Not In the like yeah, I'm not far enough the one that's between. In front of the EPA Hazard Yeah Asteroid anti-ship. Exactly no fire at the one the northwest West. Anyway, so that's the twin, long plus three this twenty four. yeah should be twenty four to hit. Hit. Right fantastic. And That is five eight. And there's twenty three damage. So that ship. Takes some significant? Barrage on this and it fires its shots. With a natural one on the attack. Extremely, intimidated and at the end of the other one does have shot because it doesn't have anything on its starboard side so. At the end of this round. The the one that you intimidated is completely neutralized. You hit it with all this firepower, and you just see it just kind of like putter into start floating like drifting and space. You've completely neutralized that ship. and the goal runner you can hear cheers from the goal runners calms. How fucking right? The game they're. Great and so some some some heavy cheers and excitement from that and then again Terry comes up on your calms and says I'm detecting. Three. Vessels in the area I believe that these are friendly's from newly seem as they are broadcasting emergency signals from their. Communications. Can you put them on comes study. Sure. Sure. So I. Mean The comms are opening you betcha. This is a captain. Ziva epoch tracer. Are, you, State Your Business. Who Are you? She's got freaked out. I mean 'cause like power and she hit this. This is the new. Security, ships we are coming to aid the distress call. We heard from the Golden. However, we see that you are already on it and that you are expected guests at our resort. We must apologize for this terrible. Welcome, please if you don't mind. Escort the goal runner back to newly him, and we shall take care of these troublesome. Pirates. And you should enjoy your stay this. Say vacation after all he's. C. C. can strong arm into giving us some some of those expensive consumables for free for doing this. For doing the job. Annual some strings once we get inside I. Don't think that the security security officers can facilitate such things fine to sleep. Force led towards some of top shelf liquor. You know. When don't worry. pull the strings. If you don't give us VIP rooms. We'll blow mountain. Rooms, but I mean we'll wait and talk to. The P.. T.! O. Jesus Christ, okay. Here also. You also here over the comes. And you kype Vargas. Please join the epic true cert- joined the epic tracer and the goal runner. We were expecting you to. This is not something that you should have to handle these. Go get cleaned up. We'll take care of your ship. It will handle this. We're at the top of the round guys want to. Three ships that they have in up three ships coming up. The hailing frequency open for epic tracer. I mean we're we're wide open, okay? Capitan I suggest you take forward now. Take the year. We keep the. Goal in between. US. That sounds like a good plan Mr. Vargas civilly. Yes, that this could. Take the front. And she'll kind of look over to Oran like okay, let's. Let's Let's make a convoy. You really want to break off captain. Just one she. Just Gimme the word. I want to get the civilians out of here. You know what I mean. Like just back from gas or make the word cap. Yeah, that she gives you the nod like. Yeah, let's go. This is not our jaw. Right orders, orders okay, so with that then we are actually out of starship combat as the epic tracer and. The cazador escort, the goal runner to the docking Bay of newly soon. And we'll see you. Parents. So we got. I have so many questions even going to have to have the top with. Mike Mike. This episode. Been sponsored by role twenty. This is how we will.

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The Future of Search and Finding Success In The World of SEO with Sarah Bird, CEO of Moz

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The Future of Search and Finding Success In The World of SEO with Sarah Bird, CEO of Moz

"I'm Alec Baldwin. And you're listening to marketing trends and the Leeds Art Week. Sarah Bird news a thing or two about search engine optimization as the CEO of Mas the main thing her company focuses on and for good reason SEO is one of the most important tools in a marketers. Toolkit but Sarah believes that few really understand how hard it is to become good at Seo and to tap into its full potential central on this episode. Sarah explained some common misconceptions about Seo. End Gets US excited about the future of search enjoy. This episode marketing trends is brought to you by salesforce. We're bringing marketing and engagement together. Learn more at salesforce dot com slash marketing. Everybody welcome to marketing trends. This is your host Lauren. Back Carello Ian in is at an undisclosed location and cannot make it today so we have someone that Noah fancy and. He's even better than we have. Sarah Bird here how are you doing. I'm doing very well. I am a little worried about IAN now and his undisclosed location. But I'M GONNA Trust. It's a positive he SURPRI party. That's what that's what I'm putting into the world I'm GonNa say I'm GonNa say doing that as well anytime I can't make it. He always jokes that I'm not surfing somewhere so I'm in can't make it. Because he is off doing something absolutely incredible me. He's taken up surfing absolutely he finally learn to serve. He's following your good example. How about have fun in? I'll sign. We miss you but I'm so excited to have you on the podcast today. I'm I I know when you for more years. Both of US had been alive. So that's pretty mathworks net when we were seven a baby's we're babies. I mean it felt like it industry why I was a baby. How my Gosh Kim? So tell us a little bit about about Mars and then I think we should go into. Oh my gosh. How is mas been around this long house? Seo been around this long yeah so mice we make software that helps marketers understand and improve their SEO and our pull mission is to really simplify at Te'o for everyone Through education through community enter software. I am so I've been a Mazda. The customer for more than a decade. I have followed the MAS blog on all content for. I don't even know how long I think mas places taught all of us about one of the first. Seo Software out there we were really That's why I said education and community because that's that's that's where we started that's the route. The route is desire to share what we were learning about search engine optimization and really just one hundred fifty percent credit credit to rand fish skin and Jillian big And they're a generous spirit of of sharing and knowledge sharing in particular killer and wanted to help everyone understand what they were just every learning about search engines and back then it was web. Two Point Zero. We're all interactive. You've web two point zero people and They always from the various early days. Felt like a rising tide. Wherewithal boat that you know? Nothing is zero sum. I'm game and that's that's reflect my values and the values you still have about miles around You know there the more people that know and understand How Great Marketing Works and particular? Seo Out the better for everyone absolutely. And I think so. Many the industry's can really take a lesson from from Mas on that of you don't have to hold everything close to the chest and not tell anyone what's going on in make this service secret society by spreading the word about the industry. The work has to be excellent. What you do it makes the industry bigger? It makes the category category bigger your point all all boats rise try it just gets bigger. Just cut up the PIE and the smaller pieces of the pie just just gets bigger slightly and if we Novak serve early two thousands. Seo was sort of random magic magic people did and you know great secret people that secret things right. It was the you never knew them worse. I saw them and you made it able to find find stuff on the Internet yet. We think about now good. Gosh how much time has been What's what he the marketers are still getting wrong about? Seo what a a great question Let me see I would say it certainly more wrong now than it was an easy one and then I'll go to a more personal small that it's free and I will admit we have used sloppy language APP over time around is seo traffic. Or whatever ever and I think that that contributes to a lack of understanding about How much work and discipline goes into a great long-term Seo Strategy Eighty right Because on the one hand we will tell people takes work overnight. It's a long term investment. But you're building an asset. An asset has competitive value apiece if he's dividends That is one of the most efficient forms of marketing and in the mid to long run But then on the other hand will say it's free it's free so I think that You know the that attitude is through the confusion around how Seo supposed to work and what's the investment What it takes to succeed and also what you get out of it? It's still really poorly. Understood yawned. A core group of passionate at the. Oh practitioners so I. There's IT's both sides both it. It's not free it takes time and takes effort And what you get on the outside is beyond the click. The return isn't just a single click. Her return is about. It's much broader. Now you know it's searches searches chains experiences experience. The search has changed in what it what it looks like on the page and how you interact with. The search result is different than it was when I start in the industry and I think that's scary for a lot of people and for me. It's not you know it's exciting. It's it's a richer experience brand experience interactive experience orange so I think we're still at the very early every a lot of misconceptions about how do you what what do you have to put into it. And what do you get out of it so poorly understood out. Definitely I I remember years and years and years ago having a conversation in this part is about ten years ago having a conversation with the CEO about no everyone uses the Internet. What would have been searchers off? It's not just going to be small businesses. It's not just going to be individuals. Everyone uses search everyone and more though all the time all the time and it may be the CEO does not feel the CEO of a fortune. One Hundred Company does not fill out your league form. This does not mean he or she does not actually use search to find. Find Your Business exactly how to percent hundred percent and even just educate I think one of the things I love about. Seo Is that It works all parts of the funnel it can. It can help you understand basic super high level discovery of helping your potential audience. Your potential customer understand that there is a problem and educated about the problem and introducing the context of the solutions and bringing them to your brand of familiar to all the way down to working them to close right and and and then after club after they've already purchase your product like Seo can help keep them engaged interactive and having success your product or relationship with your brand and I think that I mean got pretty special absolutely and I still have trouble in so many websites finding information once. I'm on someone's website or on their community side and the search on their website doesn't work great. Go you go back to Google. Low hundred percents. Oh I do this going no no better. Google and Google knows better. Yeah I I'm not. I'm not terribly scared of that. What they think Makes me a little bit of an outlier in this sense. I think there's a lot of people got buried people being a like a lot of digital marketers got a lot of conviction and false confidence because early. Seo Be aware the we're finally able to track our Y you're the real marketers and And that was back. When you know Google's role is just to send you on your way to your website as quickly as awful and then you can do more tracking and now that it's it has a totally different interaction? They're trying to do transactions right there on the search result you can do review. Its multi. Tab It's visual will and like we just shared users go they don't just get your website and he'll go back to Google and do more to interact with your brand google and better at it than you are Pity for a lot of people that scary and a lot of digital marketers haven't refrained they're thinking to How is this actually helpful for me? And how is this. Everything old is new again and and marketing and You know it's over attached to this sort of notion of well it's it's just a click and then I control everything and I think that if we can reframe our thinking to be excited about an interested in different kinds of experiences engagement happening on Google and recognize that people are interacting backing because they like it like it in a good thing it is absolutely absolutely as an. It's almost reframing digital marketers away from I go a tool. Google is the enemy to Google really needs to be looked at as a partner a partner. The if you are ecommerce it makes so much sense. Because you're going to have your your product listings but it makes sense for everybody and you talked a little bit about visual search. What are you what are you seeing visual search right now? Yeah you know. I think I am super excited about what Google is doing with Lens and what they're teasing out for the future of Lens. I I love this kid that visual search get super interesting when you know our Augmented augmented reality. Technology is mature enough. And they're getting nephews cases because partners partners Adopting use cases to build let in eight. I'm excited about the future of visual search. It feels if you'll supercup and early and I'm excited about it but we're not currently. Ah You know building building tools on that platform yet. But I think that it has the opportunity to unleash awful new. You know wave of interesting interesting search Opportunities and challenges. So I'm I look forward to it. I welcome it I think that users are gonNA love it And I think that It's the opportunity again for companies like mine is to help people marketers understand that that next interaction layer. I'm so literally and one of the things is that I loved watching Google evolve over time is the degrade personalization around all of their search results in just a a constant increase in relevance. Say if I am sitting in San Francisco Yet ones that results for us if I am sitting up in Seattle verses Mrs Honestly Different parts of San Francisco and how they're using really looking at local to provide the best most relevant experience. Yeah we're really passionate about local. ATM is for several reasons One of the you know search which is searches growing I think are a golden age of search and I think there's still lots of opportunity. We just talk about visual search. That's just one of them that it which is not even fully play yet And then that Golden Age Research with more people searching more for math and more kind of revolt not all all of the churches are sort of created equal in the marketplace right. They're all interesting and useful because we're training audiences and customers to search a lot which is good but not to commercialize -able and and we like local and a focus on local because I believe local searches are more often On tied to a transaction. They're more commercialized. Evil and so if you're GONNA divide up your sort of search time and and budget if you have a brick and mortar order Experience a real life experience a story that you want track in your restaurant and you want to come there and experience restaurant then you should be investing a live and local search That's close to the dollar closed the transaction right And also another thing thing. I like about local leading to actually increases the search pie right if when we did a search for best pizza where it was the same search for all of the United States. And there's really only one winner you know but the fact that you can be on one street corner in Seattle and do that search and gets results in a different street corner and do the searching get different results will is a good thing. I mean th there's more competition than opportunity to succeed and the more larger than the more we distribute yet Opportunity the and the distributors of wealth so personalization localization I think it is good for both users experience and also businesses if it looking to succeed and search absolutely and as the entire premise. The user. If I'm on one side of Seattle and I'm just like Gosh I wanna I wanNA say pizza right now on your telling you gotta go five miles away yet. It's not it's not overly helpful when there is a place warm block said. That's exactly what I want on. But I just didn't know about one thing I get a kick out of as a bit of a tangent as everyone knows tangents the the local listings when I was in Europe are so strong looking for any sort of local business restaurant recommendations the of the world yuck really doesn't exist or have a great foothold in the parts of Europe that I've been to but I've gotten such great great results in advice and recommendations from Google once I really dug into that outside of the country. Yeah yes one hundred percent. And I I very bullish. CPI ethic on The value of review solicitation in management. It's and you know the quality of the content and the kind of Hot Topic and data extraction. I can do from reviews and other user generated content content like It's it's impressive. It's a competitive advantage for Google. But they are they have means to do that and click that kind of information and they're good at it And I think it makes the quality of experience so much better. So I'm I I. I think everyone should be investing in understand reviews from local product search. Yes I be in. Google is done such a good job and they did this early on of how do they think he used. Her Person. Provide relevant information on the product side. If I'm looking for Janea Adele rose color blush which is very exciting for all of our listeners. It's or gap tastic. I don't need to go seventeen clicks in to we got this. If you can just show me where I can buy the search results. It's an with their different competitive pricing in Google. The better and better they get bliss more competition there is also for Amazon which is funny seeing the how including flip on. I is competing with which one but the results are people like you and I just getting more relevant information faster and easier the ad and ah we're starting to see a lot on voice with Siri. Alexa where is boy search. Hurt anywhere is that is going to be a place that's useful anytime soon. What are your? What are your thoughts on voice search? Yeah I whenever I talk about boysearch. I start by distinguishing getting really precious on what we mean. Have I I loved it will st category. So we're only gonNA talk about today. The broad categories boys Waste initiated with activated search versus Voice Response Because I think that you know voice initially e- verbally asking something of my of my phone or my home system That's happening today I. It's impacting the kind of search results for getting. Its positive is it is. It's a good thing for search. It's a good thing for users. The good thing for marketers and if here and anyone doing seo needs to be thinking about and doing something about these kinds of search categories voice initiated voice. Response I have I have different views on I have a Let's which I don't think both response is going to be nearly as transformative at the articles will make you believe. I think I think that there are very few luke commercial activities going to be comfortable doing Through voice respond for repeat purchases or you know low consideration if if they get it wrong and it's not that big of a deal because you're only out twenty bucks kind of searches. I think it will. It will have an important place but for all those sort of meaningful time trying to buy something or more considered purchase or I really want to have a specific kind of experience. I GUESS FAW off or a hotel or like I'm not going to do after which I'm not gonNA wait. It'd be great in the day in the future where it's between a turban. Urban am personal assistant envoy surge. It's Sarah based on everything we know about you. We recommend not pills by. There's an appointment available at two thirty today. Your calendar shows an opening like a car. Yeah I'm like that. A very like a recommendation. I still personally clean will want to let and understand where they think they get it from. I don't know about you but You know I have. I have a seven year old and my house as well and he also therefore or will search things on our various home assistance or on my my various streaming account or our youtube APP and and That means that sometimes I get some really bizarre recommendations because it's not you know garbage in garbage out and when it's Especially and like we're all kind of living together and and then google harassed Google or Alexa will appear that information as if we're sort of one glob we're very are different and our tastes and I have a lot of skepticism. About how how fine tuned we're really going to get that in the future And even the sort of by example right. Sometimes I just want like Gimme. Your quickest. Cheapest headed cure does not have to be fancy. I I just don't want to fungus. But sometimes I'm like I need a spa day like I need a spa day and I want he and I want champagne cocktail. Oh Cal and I want a beautiful lounge area listed on. I have a lot of skepticism that we're going to get to that full. Hey here's the we. I know you're GonNa love and it has an opening your schedules free. And so we're sending you. Would you like us to send a car that I have heard kind of mounting that that will ever really be useful or possible and fully satisfying fine exactly I if Nixon I think a lot about sort you've also. How much do you trust? You know how much you trust the I in the data and honestly thinking about not just that part hard but like building companies that idea of had he become the trusted company of the trusted source of I think mazdas in a really really great job. Establishing yourself as you are the trusted voice Seo You are the the company that everyone references. How have you been able to establish side over time for thank you for that compliment? That's that is a Really touching compliment for me because it is something you care about. And it's It's a part of the sort of Integrity Integrity Birdie of the company right to have people feel like they can rely on us and they should so thank you for that That means what and I I think that one of the things I'm most proud of In my professional life is our core values and We have a lot of other and so we invented a word to remember them all and to talk about them so safely and the word is tag fee and that stands for we are transparent apparent. Authentic Generous Fun empathetic and exceptional and to me. That trust that you speak of you know comes from picking taking your values seriously knowing your knowing your values and taking them seriously And you know we're human. Humans were a lot of people have helped. Make Mas what it is today All kinds of people people people who are employed but also people in the community. You know it's MAS is not any one person it is Hundreds maybe even thousands of people who have been contributors At Mars in one way or another and I think that means sometimes we're GONNA have the stakes are gonNA make mistakes because we're humans whenever humans. We're all flied. We all have good days and bad days. And you know I think a lot of companies have values One of the things. I'm I'm proud of it is is when we when we screw up which we will 'cause we're in We do you really tries to be accountable to each other in publicly accountable. Even right we will share share on the blog. Hey we screwed up a thing you know we have this software issue or We've made a mistake or hey this part of our product. You know having haven't been good. So here's how we're fixing it. We we try to earn trust by Knowing value trying to live them and when we do stir owning it and being public about it and he can another thing that has always been that maybe isn't as obvious in the in the Pacu values that we when ever possible. We want to back up our our recommendations the experience but with data data right high quality data more we have tested it to To significant statistical significance. We try why not to make recommendations based on. Here's a handful of experiences. We've had a handful of people we've talked about their experiences Because there is complex. It's changing All the time so whenever possible we go to rigorous data science to inform recommendations and and the federal. We don't settle for low quality right. We try to go all the way that we can to the bounds of what is achievable And I'm proud of that and I think that people know that Mas Thinks that way cares. That cares about that and We'll trust us because of that. I couldn't agree with you more. It's the deep sense of integrity that Mary very much comes across. Thank you yeah. I mean it's It's a harder way to do business to have high standards to be transparent and accountable to people folks. We're at But I think it's the right way to do it. I certainly it's the only way I want to do it. And I'm I'm Ed pitted topics a little. Oh Bit because I love having. CEO's on the podcast for so many reasons Of An I would love to talk to you about how you WANNA work with. CMO's heads of marketing. And what markers can do to really instill trust with you. What a great question etched in I love this question and it brings to mind First of all trust is mutual and I I think that everyone in the company whether you're the CEO. Or you're the chemo. No matter which side of the sort of power dynamic. You're on because obviously there is one and we shouldn't ignore it but it's also mutual. You know you need to. You need to demand that your co trust with you. I think that's how high performance teams work that everyone acknowledges that that trust goes two ways and we have been committed to building it at something you you work on and it can get damaged but you can recover and yeah. That's the first thing I would test for As a CMO like trust recognized that they also owes something to you are they also committed to working on trust it is just a one way street where. CMO everything to me and they better build their trust. You know the usual. We've got to work like any relationship. You gotta work on it right awesome so I think it's starting starting with that And then this is Super TV. But you I have loved Bernie Brown. I love loved her neighbor on. I think she's so wise. And have a great way of of pudding complex emotional troops into simple language and stories and she has a lot of material out there about trust and its relationship. Courage its relationship with on our ability and and She has a great acronym called breathing. And she has a whole tedtalk on how we can build trust with each together you know and by this braiding activism by setting good boundaries by being reliable being accountable I being of both of the embracing of trade having integrity any non-judgmental on being generous in our in our thoughts and our and the good intent they. I think there's great research on there. There's nothing I can say that. I think it's better and more thoughtful than brave Brown. Go to her. Just gotTa go right to the source and beyond beyond that If that food of high level foundations of all human relationship trust I think that that making sure you're aligned from the beginning with your CEO. About what things do we agree are very measurable able and metrics driven and we can make Roi Type Analysis on it And then what things are off. I call it off Reggie. Yeah you just can't track the ROI. Because I think that's a tricky about a lot of marketing right is P pretend that everything is completely trackable on you can do some magical. Roi Calculation is a mistake. It's ninety even a fun. How humans work you have to be brand spend And that a decisions are often made for emotional reasons. FM reasons. But I think having a conversation up front with a Theo like what are what are the things that we both agree. We're GONNA take a leap leap of faith on that. There's going to be. It's going to be hard for me to ever give you data that satisfying about the result of this. Then we agree on that and in here is a whole other. Category that laws activities. I'm going to do as your cmo that you should absolutely expect. Certain kinds of date on and Held me accountable to it. I I I think I think if we were able to have that conversation up front that will make all the later conversations easier right about what. What what is this happening? And why are you suspending. Aaron what's this. What are we spending time on? What's your thinking behind this I think I think later conversations easier -solutely and then leading leading accompanying leading organization. What I'm what have you seen be really effective in a building in a leadership team cohesion beaten building the the effectiveness of your company? Such a good question We have a lot of different programs for that and and then also we do a lot of that on on hiring you know something that airline feo that the friendliest Guy Airlines right with like how do you how everyone at airline is so friendly and the Geo says simple. We only hire people you know and I think that there's there's something to that that on the on the getting your hiring right on hiring people who are invested in their relationship and have a strong team they who understand that building nineteen takes work and that humans I'll take work And then they're committed to that doing the work together there's part of it is hiring and then of course we have the things. I would agree coaching program at ause. I'm really proud of. I have had a lot of benefits had a leadership coach in my own career. Someone I can go to a third party outside the company who can help me become a better neater and give me tools for that and accountable to my goals around that and it was so powerful. Our phone transformative for me that I wanted. Everyone might have that opportunity so we have a third party coach coaching Organization any any mark or can take advantage of and used to grow themselves professionally to troubleshooting issue. It's your help refrain issue and I think it's important that the coaches are not mas employee records nerd parties outside the organization Because I think that is a sense of confidentiality and You know you're not it's fake you can say whatever you want. He's mad about anything you want with your coach and and there's no sense of. Oh is this going to show show up on my performance review. If that's the time to go work out those issues and then to calm back from your coaching session with ideas about how you can take whatever that that is whether it's frustration or back and And do something to alleviate that to make it better make mas better to make yourself better her and so i. I think that investing in those tools investing in people giving them a place to go. That's a safe place an expert play you until also key you know And then we do Do asset managers with that transparency value with their teams. I think people do better work when they have context. And that's good news and bad news so we you know. We share our company Metro every month. Then you can bad news I think that is key to building teams and you know at mom's we're believers that you also the fun part funded intact people reason if it's all work all day it's it's easier to forget that all of us are complex and working only one section of our our lives and I think that when you reduce people to their work persona It's harder to exercise empathy muscle and a part of the remember. Wow this person has a lot going going on where this person wasn't raised in my house and they have different ways of communicating and they're motivated by different thing. So when you have fun together and you say hey it's legit work activity for us to sometimes and just have fun together and not talk about work. I think you open yourself up to better collaboration than trust and better teamwork and because you remind each other other of our fully humanity and we can feature other more clearly on appreciate each other more. Clearly I am I. I couldn't agree with you more. And and I'll also to reiterate the greatest to have an executive coach and to bring that to the leaders in your organization than having one I when I've been my best in my career is when I've also had that exact coach on the side. WHO's the person to go to with no judgment and say? Oh my gosh what is happening. This is what I want to say. Here's is everything that that will. I understand the spirit of what you're trying to communicate yet. This is how you come across right now. The exactly you're telling landing and I WANNA show you a mirror about how it's landing in tallaght landing consistent with what you're trying to accomplish or how you're trying to show up. It's that's not what I meant but yet you're out what words you need to say that still true to what you need to communicate but also when the way you intend exactly you know we I talk about that at my is 'cause autheniticity is a value as well right. Transparency than there emptied than their authenticity is also also in there and at times People are trying to say well Sarah. I showed up that sort of an angry and toxic. Because that's generally generally edit actually how was feeling I was being authentic to my anger and a powerful than to remind people that we need to be authentic to the best versions of ourselves else like with inside within US each of us. I believe certainly within me You know I have I have noble qualities and I have pet equality right. I have the ability to focus on. What's negative and awful or I have the ability to focus on what's the opportunity and what could be possible from that and I think that agree? Great Coach helped you be offensive. It's still you and like you said you're still getting across that. You WanNa get across you from your best sell and not your sort of most fearful or angry or jealous or distressed or stressed out. Sell your from your strong creator optimistic. So completely and then people will be better able to hear what you're trying to say and then another another topic that I know. You're you're really passionate about but I'd love to chat with you a bit about you've written and talked a lot about this idea of inclusion and women in technology and you are a one of the few women that are. CEO's in something as a tick that. I think everyone would love to change. A what piece of advice do you have for women. Starting in their career women sort of rising in their careers in Entrepreneurship I have a lot of thoughts about rattle off a few and I am I dig on one in particular. It's on my mind lately The first piece by to everyone everyone in their career early career Including is to remember to go where there is each year job. Like go where there are problems. Don't avoid the the problem in the workplace. Go where they are and try to help. Make it better like unlock unlock solutions. Because that's also another way of thinking about Value Chretien and that is certainly how I went from You know I was. I was an attorney before I started up mas and so when I started at Mas I had no idea about marketing or running a company any or software startup and really no business joining startup a lot of gratitude to rant and Jillian the founder for bringing in and placing a bet on me So you know the sort of secret to my early career was whenever I saw on. That was confusing or didn't look like it was working. Or if you Kinda kind of messed up you know. I didn't avoid it. I didn't say someone else makes us better. I just started trying to learn about it and came up with my own solutions and then ask for people to say to get on board with my ideas was a hey this thing. Our pricing seems mess up. I don't really know a lot about pricing. I'm going to go try to figure it out and then here okay. Here's some ideas. I have about pricing. What do you think can we do it? and that they don't ask for permission. Don't wait to be asked go. Were there the problem. Do your research present some solutions and bring people along with you That's going to help you learn and also people will see you as somebody who makes their lives better. They won't even know really understand why it'll just be like I just I just I love working with her make their lives better. You know because he just go you or the problems. I am trying to smooth it out so My I don't avoid problems. Don't don't wait to be asked him out Another thing that has been an ongoing work of mine is to not let my imposter. My imposter voice kind of rule. My Life Right. I really struggled imposter syndrome. That little voice in my head as you don't deserve to be here. You're not good enough other people. You know what they're doing and you don't and About that is still in my head But it was even stronger and I had earlier in my career and it took years of coaching and intense work and mindfulness and self awareness to learn how to Recognize that that voice ezekie she and my mind and not to act on it. Say Oh this is that voice that tells me I'm crap at everything and I don't know what I'm doing and I don't deserve to be here. I'm just not like not listen to that voice and go and remember that I know a lot more than I realize I do and I can be affected by an affect is and I'm going to go and give to your shot. Ah It is not know that So I think that learning to hear your voice and then learning to not let it roll your life or hold you back. I I mean when I when ran I suggested I take over the CEO role at Mas knew he was the original Theo and yachts takeover. You know I nearly declined. I really like I don't I don't think I should. I don't think I could. Why would I do that? I had a lot of thoughts. It's about it And I think it you know at the core was as offensive You know do either rent. I have an impact And then sort of needing to to Get more grounded in accomplishments and my skill sets and my strength but I still struggle with that kind of thing so that's one and then Here's kind of controversial and I wanNA talk about And it's this is this is really for for All underrepresented people all you know trying to make your way intact And that this hard cold reality of you know we've inherited a culture here. We are operating in a culture that uses a certain way you can influence culture. We can be part of the change. We must be part of the change But we also have to operate within it and so that it does mean like I do a dance you know every every day every week about how I would like to show up but also knowing how people meeting can you show up so for example if it was up to me I would wear either like yoga pants to work every day or I would wear like Tutus like Cindy lauper offer from the eighties like my authentic bestself right. If I can just be myself every day it would be like somewhere between just rolled out of bed or looking like I'm trying to go to like In like an eight movie But I don't show up that way right. I am mindful of how address what I look like And and then on the one hand that feels like a betrayal right to my sort of course fell on the other hand. It's the reality of like people need to see a certain way and I need to show up for for them with my highest impact. And so I'm going to That similar to how you eat that he really controversial and hard topic bake to discuss For people entering Entering the field especially for women who have a certain way of gang and on the one hand I wanNA say they like. Yeah we should just the top everyone and we should We should be able to sort of as typically feminine. If we want the reality is it's going to get in the way way of being of your ideas heard and so you need to find a way to think about your language. Try not to use words like I think I feel. I'm not sure if control your language shouldn't have to but we've inherited this culture and people want to hear from you. Hear the three things you should do. That's what they wanna I hear it you know And I think I think there is I think the hard dance. We're all GONNA be walking for a long time between being authentic to who we are are showing up in a way that really land for the people around you based on their sort of stereotypes of what a meter looks like or sounds like talk. Like and I don't I this is Kinda unpopular advice But it's it how I think it is how I think I think it's real. I think that We have to Walk this dance between being ourselves and being unique but also showing up in a culture that has certain certain ideas of it. Looks like I think those are such amazing pieces of advice and I agree so much. I wish I didn't agree with the third one and I I. I don't want to agree that either. It's it's wrong and it shouldn't be that way I think it is. There haven't changed all ties the Times yet. I saw sort of Internet name. And I'm GonNa Miss Quota directionally correct but it was a I wish I could just show up at work can be average. You can't you can't show up at work can have a bad day. You can't show up at work. You have to show up in be a leader later an authentic and also compassionate and kind but not your home and not strong a strong and assertive. Why can't I just show up a just a regular person because you don't show up and be a regular just sort of a regular the person on a regular days of Always walking the Allens from approachable but authorities. I I will say okay that earlier in my career I had no far less personality because I thought I had to be completely all the time in. This is how you gain respect act and I was never cold but I was also never. I was not often called approachable. Now I'm on the far end of the spectrum where Air I'm extremely casual. Extremely approachable at my languages change yet. Here's the rub with all of it. I have more Syrian. I am better at what I do professionally. I have all of these successes underneath. May but for people who know me. I'm taking less seriously. It's true I I am casual when I talk because what you're asking me about is so easy. It's not worth the attention although it's just and it's also sort of natural state. I think my what I'm most comfortable. That is how. Oh I WANNA be in relate to people you know like this nice intimate conversation you and I are having right now right now. You can be easy enough intake jake and you're not trying to put on this fancy airs but the trouble with that is people might not people may take that the the wrong way yeah. Context is so important context so important. That's so right and I think that there is Let me say this I feel I feel my privilege. I have I don't think of myself anymore. You know sort of like so such an outlier my my appreciation for all the things they have going for me. I'm a white woman. I come from economically privileged background. I have a long way more privileged religion lack of privilege in this industry And I still have to do these. Like friendly but not too friendly emotional but not like any you know. It's it's tough to walk all the tight rope you know professional and attractive but not that D. like you have to walk all the road right so how much harder it must be for other people. Don't don't have all the same privileges I have right and I feel a sense of I do this dance. And I hope that I am pushing that bounder boundary boundary ever further out than I am I am also changing in as I go for the better. If there's not going to be a radical transformation where Stanley I can just wear my yoga. The pants or my cue to prom party dressed to work I won't be radical but I can be part of pushing the boundary and they get better for For those coming up around me and and he part of lifting other people up and reaching out of hand and sponsoring people and supporting people in their career who are underrepresented in the industry. So it's this weird mix of inherited the culture and I'm trying to teach at the same time I feel the responsibility for the gratitude that I get the position I have and the responsibility to try to make it better for others. I don't always get that right. I don't always I don't really feel that it that I'm working on all the time and I I truly the whole where the last generation that has to walk the tightrope. I hope we can make enough progress for the generations that come after us to be able to go in and say you know what I my inflection does turn up at the end and Leona Point Yoga Pants to work and that doesn't matter because the quality of my work is there and I. I hope we're the last generation that has to walk that type of because we do all of this work to get more women on boards and get more women. Investors have more women in C. level roles goals so that you have all of this perspective to suddenly go. Those aren't things that matter. Don't listen to the house. She he speaks listened to what she says. That's right that's right. Yeah I have more optimism around Around the opportunities for white women than I do for people of Color I feel like we have a long way to go for people of color to be really seen really seen for their their talent What they have to offer in check so Yeah but I am selling. There's some prouder certainly being made and also we still have a long way to go right. I we celebrate International Limited last month. And that's what a great day and also though It was our one hundred and eight International Women's Day One hundred and eight International Women's Day and we still have a huge wage gap. We still have like we've never had a woman president yet I just I. It's a little discouraging. We pick up. We gotTA accelerate the pace of change here. Because I I can't be doing this one hundred years I don't WanNa have to have an international image day. I don't want to have to have one. I would rather not do it. I really but But it's needed it's necessary. It serves a purpose and so we need to pick up the pace of change around here. I completely completely agree. And it's I'm impressed by Sunday. I am so impressed by the allow the young women that I've met over the last few years who where I felt like for so long and when I do when I was their age it was how do I adapt and adapt myself a fight a make small bits of progression Russian and I see these young women that are like screw that up. Just gotTa do it this way and I'm GonNa plow forward. You shouldn't have to change you and I loved does it. Yeah Go. She'll go have where a my mom couldn't adapt she had to deal. I had I. I learned how to adapt. And they're all like nope we're plowing through and I just. I'm very optimistic for it. I do think you know this a senior women out there. We all need to keep growing. Keep getting more senior. Women need to invest because yet we start putting money into companies. We have more power. We need to get more women in the sea level positions more women founders. Because there's such a big financial Angela Impacts More women on boards and starting to do this. I truly believe if we have these younger generations. That are pushing all of us. Yup lettuce senior on a top down perspective. Saying you know what I'm GonNa give you all the air coverage to go and buy A. I am optimistic that we can do this but I just I want to see it in my lifetime I want. I want young where I want to be this year. Old Lady in all of the young young women go. You know you know you just. You didn't do enough. You could've done more of the at bats what I wanNA hear. I WanNa hear them changing the world at an accelerating pace in saying Lord Sir. Why did you do a faster like yeah order to get here? Yeah I agree I want. I WANNA be pushed I think you're right about the air cover peace and like how can we end in and men who men who are Engaging in being solutions and being acted about how maybe a solution how do I wanna be like for the color I do. I give them uh-huh ally shine a light on the work that they're doing and make space for them and make sure they're heard in nineteen That is the kind of work we need to For so that that authenticity and the voices and experiences can can be filled an amplified as I couldn't agree more so we're gonNA switch one more time to our lightning round. I'm from a Are Amazing sponsors credit as our lightning round is fast and easy just like marketing autonation. We're so ready. Yeah already what is what are you using on your next the most fun. ooh that the most fun. Oh my goodness this is not very late and leaning lightning. He is it I on instagram too much. And and I just love my google search. Search all day long What's your favorite one day? One day getaway. Hey Beach we're fortunate in Washington a lot of beautiful beaches. Good beach coming Who is your favorite follow on social media? Oh my goodness Oh my goodness this is so good I WANNA say for for inspiration inspiration. It feels like it's Michelle Obama. What's the favorite book you've read recently? Oh my gosh I read really trashy books. I'm just going to have to lie. I'M GONNA have to lie on this one because it's too embarrassing to tell the truth Why don't I do it? I are- listen to the audio person to five second rule by Mel Robbins recently And that really always publicly level at my productivity game name and then last final final question. What are you most excited about in marketing? Oh I'm a visual person. I and so I am excited about this teacher where we have five g you have. VR A are At at full maturity and wants to experience things immersive -ly before and buy them or before I get there. I want to walk through a hotel lobby the and up into the room with MTV view of the hotel room. I can hurt her I want to know walk the restaurant I wanNA hear the sound levels of the rest I like to eat a quiet restaurant I want I want that experience. I think the future is coming for that I I don't think if you're yet that I can't wait for that or even better right when you can You can have an accurate depiction of what things will look like if you try them monitor you buy them right. Really what I look like with that accurately what look like in In those genes would be amazing. And I can't wait for that the shopping experience that is definitely coming. I hope though Sarah thank you so much for joining us. It has been amazing Now that we've spent this time we're going to have to do an entire women leadership roundtable and need your front and center on it. Yeah we're going to have to do it I wanted to talk about it to help a compassionate And we'll bring lunch from front great. 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22: A Warp in the Milky Way Galaxy

SpaceTime with Stuart Gary

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22: A Warp in the Milky Way Galaxy

"The Space Time Series twenty-three episode twenty two for broadcast on the eighteenth of March twenty twenty coming up on space time a war in the Milky Way Galaxy Ness Mas Twenty Twenty rover officially name perseverance. And the last flight of the original space x dragon all that and more coming up on space time. Welcome to space time. We'd Stewart Gary. A new study suggests that a warp in the disk of our Milky Way Galaxy is probably being caused by an ongoing collision with another galaxy data from the European Space Agency. Staff Mapping Guy. Space Telescope indicates the distortions being generated as the impact sends ripples through the Galactic Disk a little bit like a rock being thrown into water since the late nineteen fifties. Astronomers have known that the Milky Way's disk where most of its hundreds of billions of stars including our son resides isn't totally flat but rather curve downwards on one side and upwards on the other for years now scientists have been debating exactly what's causing this war and they've proposed numerous theories including the influence of an intergalactic magnetic field or the effects of the dock matter. The mysterious invisible matter makes up most of the mass of the universe and surrounds galaxies including the Milky Way. Now if the dark matter halo had an irregular shape its gravitational force could been the galactic disk but now with its unique survey of more than a billion stars in our galaxy. Guy May. We'll be holding the key to solving this mysterious warp scientists studying details from the Second Guy Day to release have now confirmed previous INS. The WARP is in steady but changes its orientation time. Astronomers call this phenomenon procession and it could be compared with the wobble of a spinning top as its axis rotates in fact the earth does the same thing is it rotates on its axis a report in the Journal. Nature. Astronomy suggests the speed at which this galactic war processes is much faster than expected faster than the electric magnetic field and faster than any dark matter halo would allow and that'll indicates the wolves being caused by something else. Something more powerful something like a collision with another galaxy. The study's lead author Louisa Pause. Yo from the Torino. Astrophysical observatory says the WAPITI completing a complete full rotation around the galaxy every six hundred seven hundred million years and that's much faster than computer simulation models looking at the effect of the Non Spherical Halo predicted. Interestingly the woop speed itself however is still slow the speed at which the stars themselves are opening around the Galactic Center The Sun for example completes a rotation around the Galactic Center every two hundred and thirty million years our sun and Solar System located about twenty seven thousand light years out from the Galactic Center in a region of the galaxy with the amplitude from the warp is very small measuring the warps characteristics possible. Thanks guys unprecedented. Ability to accurately determine the position of more than a billion stars now local part of the Milky Way and also to estimate their distances from Earth providing science with the three dimensional celestial map geyer also measures the velocity of stars across the sky allowing journalists to work backwards determine whether stars would've been millions of years in the past where they're likely to. Baid millions of years into the future and by measuring the apparent motions of millions of stars across the sky the office can muddle scout processes such as the motion. The warp scientists don't yet know exactly which galaxy could be causing the ripple. Oh when the collision started Monje there are a few contenders to sort through is the large and small match lennick clouds. There's the Kansas message of Galaxy. And then there's the prime suspect. The secretary is twelve galaxy which is believed to have already burst through the Milky Way Galactic disk several times in the past in fact like the lodge of small magic clouds and the candidates. Major Dwarf Galaxy Secretaries is being slowly absorbed into the Milky Way through a process called Galactic. Cannibalism the process which allows small galaxies to grow into bigger ones. This is space time still to come. The Myers Twenty Twenty rover officially named perseverance and later in the science report. We look at the fatality risk factors for the coveted nineteen Chinese Corona virus. All that and much more still to come on space time. Nasr's Mas Twenty. Twenty rover is being officially named perseverance. Seventh Grade Alexander. Matha from Lake Braddock. Secondary School Book Virginia came up with the name as part of a special national name. The Rover Essay contest which received more than twenty eight thousand entries from the American School. Kids Glenn Nagel from this as deep space. Communications Complex in camera says there's been a long tradition of getting school kids to name the Mars Rovers going all the way back to one thousand nine hundred ninety seven and sojourner so after many years of us just calling a Mazda Wendy twenty and after a lodge competition and coming down to a list of Sort of a final nine finally The NASA has announced a perseverance. Obey the name of the next big rover hitting two miles in the middle of this is very reminiscent of sojourner which was the first reverend mass. Yeah it's it's been Tradition of time with NASA to taking suggestions from the public and from the mission team people themselves about what we might call. They sort of future. Riva's forms part of an engagement. If you just calling it the rover or Mas Twenty. You know it's not very personalized in a way. We try not to answer. All advice craft too much. But when healthy these yeah? You can't help it when people see these robots with their sort of incredible faces. The camera is and everything else. That's hard to not sort of have a connection to them so actually giving an official name to a spacecraft right and in this particular case perseverance was the name was chosen by an eleven year. Old Boy who had written an essay NASA about the idea of how perseverance to explore that curiosity carrying on from the curiosity to continue to learn about Mas. And I think it's actually quite an at night. Man of all of the names that were put forward. That's GonNa go from this as deep space communications complex in camera now as mentioned earlier. The one thousand and forty three kilogram. Perseverance rover is based on the highly successful curiosity. Mars rover which is exploring the Red Planet. Scale crater like curiosity perseverance will be powered by a multi mission radioisotope thermoelectric generate at rather than solar panels. Which is we saw last year with. The Opportunity Rover can get cabin dust off the dust. Storms losing the ability to power the spacecraft. Perseverance is the size of a compact car. The six will rovers asked herbology mission include searching for signs of microbial life on the Red Planet as well as studying the Martian climate and geology. It will also collect Martian rocks and soils for future sample return missions and pave the way for human exploration of the Red Planet in the twenty thirties. Perseverance is currently undergoing finalists. Simply and checkout at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida it's slated to launch from Cape Canaveral aboard an Atlas Five rocket on July the seventeenth arriving at jarrow crater on Mars on favor of the eighteenth. Twenty twenty one when you go to another planet. There's so much potential for making brand new discoveries. I'm actually putting something together. That's flying to Mars one way or another. You're going to be on the ground in seven minutes. We wanted to be there safely bottom. And I'm helping. Prepare the spacecraft that will fly our next. Mars rover the Martian surface. My name is the NFL. And I worked with robotic arms to collect samples or Mars by Melchor team from our twenty twenty. My name is Michelle Tommy Lizzy. My name is my name is Katie Stack. Morgan and I'm helping to protect the next. Mars rover merced winning. Twenty will be seeking signs of ancient life in the record of Mars. What we're trying to restore drove around the surface of this unknown planet. Collect samples crosses the to come back to look for things have called Bio Signatures. So that eventually we can bring those samples back to Earth and determine for the very first time. Did Life Exist on Mars? Also aware could it be preserved for more billion years for us to find whatever actually flies. You have to make sure that everything works properly with the flight. Software and the hardware atmosphere going thirteen thousand miles per hour after the journey through space. We try to test all of our hardware environments that we would see. Can we spend lots and lots of hours here? Testing everything it gets put in an other it gets put in various chambers in clean rooms there are hundreds of people that have to come together and build the spacecraft. You kind of have to put those different pieces together and make sure that those pieces all are going to work and I feel like such a lucky person to be working on this everything that you're touching all this hard work that you're putting in the long hours twenty years. Children will be reading this science book. It feels great. The roof is extensive. Scientific payload includes two microphones twenty-three cameras including a mass camp stereoscopic. Imaging system has also an x Ray fluorescence spectrometer to determine the fine scale elemental composition of Martian surface materials. There's a ground penetrating radar at two different ground. Densities to understand structural as buried rocks meteorites and detect underground. Water is salty brine down to around ten meters below the surface. There's an environmental dynamics analyzer. To measure temperature wind direction and speed air pressure relative humidity radiation and dust particle size and shape also aboard is new experimental technology designed to produce oxygen from Martian atmospheric carbon dioxide. That's all part of a project and support future human missions both to support life and to make rocket fuel for the return flight to Earth this Super Cam instrument suite providing imaging chemical composition analysis and mineralogy of rocks and regular from a distance it's an upgraded version of the CAM. Cam Unit fitted aboard curiosity but with two lasers and four spectrometers that would allow to remotely identify bias signatures and assist past habitability. There's a high resolution ultraviolet Ram and scanning spectrometer an image equipped with an ultraviolet laser to determine fine scale mineralogy and detect organic compounds. And now the first for the perseverance rover is its onboard. One point eight kilograms solar powered helicopter drone equipped with cameras. It'll be test flown on the Red Planet to check flight stability and for its potential to scout for the best driving rap for the rover. The trump expected fly at least five times during it steady day tips period flying up to three minutes each day. You're listening the space time coming up next. The lagrange mission to provide earth with an early warning of solar storms. And we look at the last flight for the original space x dragon all that and more still to come on space time. The European Space Agency's pining a new mission designed to provide early warning of geomagnetic storms will space weather event heading towards earth. The grand spacecraft will be positioned in a gravitational well sixty degrees ahead of earth as it orbits around San this orbital perch will allow the garage to detect potentially hazardous space weather events before they come into view from Earth thereby giving scientists advance knowledge of their speed direction and the chance of impact. Space weather is a sudden flood of energy and ionized paddock such as protons electrons and atomic nuclei triggered by powerful eruptions of solar flares and chrome message actions on the surface of the sun. Solar flares are explosions of energy caused by the sudden snapping of tangled and twisted magnetic field lines. Nana's flex ropes emanating from sunspots on the solar surface sunspots a cooler regions on the sun's surface that darker than surrounding areas because of the magnetic food lion's reaching out into space from deep inside the sun that prevent some of the hate from within the sun reaching the surface of that point because the Sanz not a solid object but a big ball of plasma different latitudes of the sun rotate at different rates and this causes the magnetic field lines become tangled and twisted. Eventually it gets so bad. They snap and realized for magnetic reconnection. This produces a massive eruption of electromagnetic energy cord solar flare which facing the earth can reach out planet in less than eight point three minutes now if the solar flares powerful enough they'll also drag up an addict billions of tons of colonel plasma and embiid magnetic field frozen flocks exploding from the sun at speeds up to three thousand kilometers per second which facing the could reach appetite. And just fifteen twenty now is and when these geomagnetic storms reached the earth. The flexibility is particles slams into the planet's magnetic field magnetosphere and then got it by the Earth's magnetic field lines through the region already filled with charged particles and towards the north and south magnetic poles as these charts dreams of plasma travel through the upper atmosphere they collide with oxygen and nitrogen atoms and molecules causing them to excite and emit photons giving up a glow and producing colorful curtain like displays notice that northern and southern lights the Aurora Borealis and Aurora Australis. The cows being omitted depend on which paddock was being ionized. British ground blows caused by the collision of Paddock was with single. Oxygen Atoms. Upper atmosphere usually about fringe kilometers. Lower down there's a more greenish. You created by single oxygen atoms data altitudes of one hundred kilometers. The KALEIDOSCOPIC KURT and then turns Awadhi Shallow Beige when nitrogen mixed in with the oxygen now. Aurora can also exhibit a blue red or even purple glow in the lower atmosphere caused by the exile of molecular nitrogen below hundred kilometers however as well as the spectacular Aurora. Locher's there's also a dockside to these highly charged particles. They can damage even destroy spacecraft. By short he had electric's in destroying on board circuitry they also caused the atmosphere to expand and contract increasing atmospheric drag on orbiting spacecraft resulting in premature herbal the K. And the need to use more fuel in order to maintain operational orbit were still space weather increases. The level of radiation exposure astronauts. Experience affecting the health may WANNA that surface solar storms can overload power lines causing widespread blackouts. In fact in one. Thousand nine hundred. Nine one. Such geomagnetic storm blew at dozens of transformers causing massive blackouts across most of eastern North America. Space where also fixed communications navigation systems and IT forces polar airline flights to be rerouted to lower altitudes using more fuel by being ever warn of upcoming space weather events the Legrand spacecraft will help scientists and the earth prepare for such events before they happen. Legrand spacecraft is named after the eighteenth century Italian French mathematician Joseph Lula grunge who was working on the general three body problem in mechanics. We discovered a series of gravitational wells these appoints in space with full of bodies such as say the Earth and the silent the earth and the moon tend to cancel each other out while at the same time equaling the center force native for a small object to move relative to the two larger bodies and so allowing smaller object to remain position relative to the attitude bodies for extended periods of time. The AH five lagrange points that is l. one two three four five L. One to win free our longest straight line connecting the two bodies say the earth and the sun so the l. One position is between the earth and the Sun. It's often used by spacecraft needing an uninterrupted village the sun such as the solar and Helium Three Observatory spacecraft. Soho the position on the opposite side of the Earth to the sun and it timed of a plank spacecraft in the soon to be launched James Webb Space Telescope because it's ideal for astronomy spacecraft is still close enough to communicate with the earth easily and they can keep the Sun Earth moon behind the spacecraft for solar power while still providing a clear deep-space few for telescopes. The old three position is on the opposite side of the center of the Earth because L. Threes always hidden from Earth by the Sun. It's become popular science fiction as the location for a hypothetical second earth. The old foreign all five positions provide stable orbits around sixty degrees ahead. And behind the Earth along the oath oval track around the Sun these away Trojan asteroids commonly found and it's the Oh five position with the Legrand spacecraft visioned to monitor the sun for Space Weather Events. This report from act a our son is an enormous ball of hot gases. Plasma four point six billion years old unpredictable and often grumpy. The Sun Emits intense radiation throughout our solar system and blasts lawson amounts of energetic material in every direction creating the ever changing conditions in space known as space weather SUNA flares emit electromagnetic radiation and confused streams of energetic particles towards earth while enormous coronal mass ejections fling billions of tons of matter into space at speeds reaching three thousand kilometers per second reaching Earth these contributor severe magnetic storms the energetic particles from the sun of the origin of our stunning Aurora but they are potentially damaging to vital satellites in space do magnetic storms triggered by their rival can damage infrastructure on ground. We could lose navigation. Services from GPS and Galileo satellites or suffering extended loss of power. Grids are overloaded. A single large geomagnetic storm could create billions of euros worth of damage in Europe alone. The European Space Agency Ezer is building a network that brings together European space weather expertise. So that data on solar activity can be collected shared and used to issue forecasts and provide space where the warning services. Ezer is planning a new mission. La Grange which together with space weather detectors on other satellites who keep continuous watch over the sun and provide early warning of potentially harmful activity the Legrand's spacecraft. We'll have a unique side view of the sun enabling it to observe solar active regions sources of flares mass ejections and high-speed so Lewin's dreams before they rotate into view from Earth. This will give advance knowledge of any emerging solar storms and enable more precise estimates of the speed and direction of any incoming coronal mass ejections. The kind of actionable information. That we need today. Spacex has launched its twentieth and Final Dragon Cargo Ship and original configuration to the International Space Station. Future missions will now use the company's new upgraded Cargo Dragon Two capsules the mission cirrus twenty was launched aboard the faulk nine rocket from space launch complex forty at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida the flight. Also Mack The fiftieth successful landing of a Falcon nine rocket targeted in Startup. L. D. GO launch ten nine eight seven six five four three two one and liftoff of the Falcon Nine rocket and cargo dragon on the final flight of the Dragon. One spacecraft taking research designed to improve life on earth lead discovery in space pitching. Don't range to get into. Its proper. Felt the niners looking good. Two billion pounds of thrust as it goes into space. Our coming up in just a few seconds will experience. It's maximum amount of first rocket. That'll happen at one. Minute and seconds going faster December reached maximum aerodynamic pressure noukal urging the call so far looking great. It's a beautiful launch. Now there will be a rapid succession of events coming up in just a bit. We'll have the first stage made engine cutoff. It'll be followed by a separation that at second stage will starting. That'll all happen. Within a matter of ten seconds of those Berlinde engines getting ready to shut off and there they go. Separation confirmed all right the first stages loosen it is now falling back to Earth. The second stage has started up another two hundred ten thousand pounds of thrust propelling dragon into orbit so far everything with regards to this flight is looking nominal. Which means it's it's performing as expected and again the booster is headed back towards Cape Canaveral Air City Air Force Station where they are going to attempt to a land. This booster At landing zone one here that first stage entry burn begins in about three minutes now for that booster on a nominal trajectory. I quit Bermuda. We were really watching closely listening closely to the weather reports tonight but so far all things nominal. It had no problem with the winds down on the ground. Lifted off right through there. Nope we all the first stage conducted. Its burn now that first stages falling back to Earth and the second stage is carrying dragon onwards to get into that orbit to meet up with the International Space Station coming up. We'll get the first stage. Entry Burn will begin. This will. This burn will allow it to slow down the booster and get it into position so that it can land if they do this landing successfully it will be the fiftieth landing space x booster. Which is that's a big number. They've got really consistent boost. But it'll be interesting because we know we've got twenty to twenty five mph. Winds along Musk's SPACEX tweeting. It'll be the greatest wins. This boozer has also just see what happens. Dragon is expected to rendezvous with the International Space Station right around Monday evening and this will be the nineteenth time. They've landed a booster back on land. The rest of those Landings have been on their drone ship. One of their two drone ships out at sea. So again really hoping they're able to do that even with the winds going on. We should have that first. Stage entry burned beginning any moment. Now for those who are gathered locally. Make sure you keep an ear out for The double sonic boom when the booster comes back and breaks the speed of sound that burn. That entry burn has begun. The Grid. Fins are out for the first stage booster and outcomes burn shutdown. So they shut down that entry. Burn everything looking great so far coming up in just about fifteen seconds. We have our landing burn. Falcon nine takes a series of three burns to do that. Landing versus the boost back burn and the entry burn to reduce air dynamic loads on the vehicle. Now is coming up on the entry. Burn let's like we have good ignition. This only lights up the center Merlin engine and shortly after the four landing legs will deploy talking. It's coming back towards landing zone one. Keep an eye out here for landing. Like deploy cheers behind the stairs. It sounds like we may have touched down beautify then that is confirmation. That is the fiftieth successful landing of a Falcon nine for stage. Congratulations to the entire SPACEX team. Now Real quick here the second stage is going to have shutdown of its Mbacke engine. So there's the call out Seco. They're expecting a call out on the nets shortly and shortly after the guidance team will let us know if the second stage. There's that call out for the nominal orbit insertions. That means that we're ready for the next step. Which is deployment of dragon from the top of the second stage once once a dragon deploys from the second stage. Right and curious. Two types of cargo pressurizing unpressurised cargo on cargo in the trunk portion and pressurized within the capsule. So shortly here. We should have dragon. Deploy we'll hear that on the launch nets carrying there is dragging gently floating away. People behind me are ecstatic to see this spinal dragons face dragon one spacecraft heading off to the International Space Station two days after the launch the Sierras Twenty Dragon. Capsule was successfully grappled by the space station's robotic arm and maneuvered under the hominy modules earth facing port. Bill be one of the last times. The station's robotic arm we'll have to perform that maneuver as the Kaga Dragon. Two capsules like crude reckon to counterparts will have automatic docking systems. The Series Twenty Dragon is carrying two tons of supplies equipment including the new European Space Agency Battle Amila Science facility which will be installed on the outside of the opening outburst European Space Agency Columbus Science module but Tala Mayo will often use scientific opportunities breath for commercial institutional uses providing unobstructed views towards the earth and out into deep space potential applications include Earth observation robotics to sciences and Astrophysics Dragon. Also carried organ. Chips fishy new human intestinal studies looking at the effects of microgravity and other space related stress factors as well as experiments looking to see pluripotent stem cells can be great into human heart. Cells Dragon cited to remain docked to the space station until April nine when the spacecraft will return to Earth with completed scientific experiments and equipment and Tan for brief. Look at some of the other stories making us insights this week with the science report. The World Health Organization has formally declared the curve in nineteen China Corona virus pandemic the deadly virus which began in the horrific live mate markets of China's Wuhan Province has continued to spread globally and it fast uncontrolled infecting hundreds of thousands of people in more than one hundred twenty countries with around five thousand fatalities so far recorded the world. Health Organization is now listing. The metality right from the covered nineteen virus at three point. Four percent research is in hand. Who are working with hospitalized patients from curve nineteen suggests that old age showing signs of Sepsis and having blood clotting issues are the fact is associated with a higher risk of mortality but the study reported in the Lancet Medical Journal is observational and therefore cannot prove causing the fate that researchers say. It's a good start to finding out WHO A. Most at risk. A new study says that women who go through the change before they reach their forty s are more likely to experience audible health problems by the time. They reach their sixties. The findings were reported in the Journal of Human Reproduction. Based on studies. More than five thousand women were surges found around seven and ten women with premature. Menopause had developed two or more health problems by the age of sixty compared with around five and ten of the women who experienced menopause at the age of fifty or fifty one health problems. Include Diabetes Heart Disease Stroke Arthritis and breast cancer. The authors stressed. The study does not show that premature. Menopause causes these conditions. Only that there appears to be an association a new study warns that Social Media and smartphone. Use may be contributing to the rising burden of mental stress among youth. The findings reported in the Canadian Medical Association Journal based on a review of several Longitudinal randomized controlled studies looking at evidence suggesting association between excessive smartphone and social media with mental distress and suicide among adolescents. The authors say most existing data our observational making Co. Zaluski difficult to establish scientists. Say That too especially tenacious species of bacteria which have colonized the portable water dispenser aboard the International Space Station and no more dangerous than closely related strains on earth. The findings reported in the Journal. Plus one based on periodic sampling showing. The bacteria called Dearest Pacer and they're called Der contaminants were contaminating the opening outpost drinking water. These microbes can cause opportunistic infections in people with underlying health conditions and a very difficult to kill easing common sterilization techniques. In fact the bacteria have persisted in the Water Dispenser. Despite periodic flushing with an extra strength. Either cleaning solution. Scientists believe the bacteria were present in the water dispenser when it left Earth. Scientists have observed a new state of matter at the interface between two oxide materials. Land theme illuminate and strontium tighter nate. The Discovery Report in the Journal. Science showed that electrons combined together in a similar way to how Kwok's combined to form protons and neutrons. The study's lead author professor. Jeremy leaving from the University of Pittsburgh says normally electrons in semiconductors or metals move and scatter and eventually drift in one direction if you applied voltage but in ballistic conductors the electrons moving more like cars on a highway without giving aid and therefore could be used in ways quite different to ordinary electronics. The discovery show is that went electrons can be made to attract one another. 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Viral TikTok Sensation Doggface Nathan Apodaca Shares Hes Married!

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