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15 VIDEO How to send us your english lesson questions and answers

Learn English with Cullen's podcast by EATT magazine

02:27 min | 2 years ago

15 VIDEO How to send us your english lesson questions and answers

"Hi and welcome back to English with Colin. And in this listen, you'll be able to see a video of two words. I am now speaking, and if you can't see the video, then please look for the link inside this listen, and it will take you to the video. So in this video, listen, we are going to do a memory taste, and in this memory taste, the taste ongoing to ask you. The same question as I did in the last video. But this time you will be able to see the words, and you will see the link is to answer this question. Okay. So you ready for the taste and after the test, please clink the link inside this video. So in the last lesson I asked you what is your biggest challenge? Or what is that thing? You are having most difficulty with learning English. And I want you to be able to tell me inside the link in this, listen, so what you can do is click the link inside the listen and in that link I'm going to ask for your first name and your Email. Male. And just tell me in three or four sentences. What are the biggest challenges for you, learning English? And what is the or what? The things that you are struggling with the most. What is the most difficult thing for you at this point in time, learning English? So please click the link inside this listen, and if you can't find the link, please contact us on our website at eat MAG dot com. That's EA TT image E dot com.

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11 Join us for English with Cullen on EATT Magazine for lesson Eleven

Learn English with Cullen's podcast by EATT magazine

01:50 min | 2 years ago

11 Join us for English with Cullen on EATT Magazine for lesson Eleven

"Welcome back to learn English with Cullen and today I wanted to explain to you how classes work so classes come out on the audiobook file thirst. So that's the Impe three. You can listen to that. You can download onto your phone or you can push play. And you can listen to it. So that it's actually playing on your phone and those listens come out on the website at MAG dot com. MAG dot com with listens. Come first. Then you can go inside our app step to and get the notes, listen that appositely on ice agents on Android, and gives you more detail. Inside the listens inside the audio. Listen, so you getting more detail from that listen in there that stint to and then lastly step three the listens come out on video. So the video listen on YouTube. It will always be the last listen that's with the listen Aden's. So please by all means stop with the audio files. This into the audio thirst Dame second Goto app and get you will note, and then certainly come to YouTube and to get an update of listen he had on YouTube. So please, I o means though to the process step was audio out audio at ease. Mag dot com. Stick to is posting app the notes inside the app, which really help you can download that app. It's completely free. And then step number three is listen comes out here on YouTube. So we'll catch you in the next lesson.

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Feedback Friday: Readymag

Feedback Friday by Really Good Emails

06:34 min | 10 months ago

Feedback Friday: Readymag

"The. Feedback Friday everybody welcome and we're going to talk about ready Mac today we're digging into brands and their emails here on feedback. Friday. Hey Matt Helbig. What's up man? What's up Matthew Smith Welcome back their feedback Friday episode. We are longtime fans of the ready meg brand. So I'm really excited to walk through some of these emails I. Think I've been getting ready MAG stuff for years in different forms and I'm just super impressed with what we're landing on here. I think you've found this and I'm psyched he did. This enormous beautiful live, taxed really cool. Like fun use of the sort of old school Emoji. I think there's a name where it's like more than just ASCII art like this particular variety. To What an interesting way I mean. It's almost entirely black and they're really using that to their advantage to create something super interesting. You know this apply is just really clear. They're using bullets like giant bullets here to talk about specific things down the way which I find really interesting. I'm just really impressed the visuals as a lot of sense. There's sort of clear and focused and interesting, but it's so simple. Like you know how I feel about with golf they've just really trimmed this up a solid car if you're going to be a design magazine if you're going to think about design in your brand, if you're going to care about the things that ready MAG does you've got a freaking own your emails like they can't be shitty and so I think they've done that here and I'm I'm pretty impressed with the way that they're using such minimal color and then man look at that title. Footer we were just talking last week about how footer seem like the dirty rats like the milk after the cereals all been heaton this feels like fresh zero right here. Want to eat that up delicious I. Feel like this one I can like feel the grid like I feel like everything is sitting real nice everything's aligned right the mobile and desktop styles feel pretty right to me. It's a well coded dot out email everything sorta seems to have its place indefinitely stood out to me in. The box something a little bit different. This is a great use of release simplistic pared-down email to me. I feel like what they left out is really shining through look at these interesting changes that they made to mobile where they June eight, twenty twenty over here inspiration, which is here, and then they drop newsletter. A lot of people would just jam everything in but hiding certain elements is okay as well. You know speaking of hiding I'm not like one hundred percent sold on these. Giant bullets in mobile like centered I feel like they work incredibly well in this version when you have a bullet that hangs off the edge call that hanging punctuation and it worked so well here and then not. So well here why not just mimic some of what you've got going on here and have a slightly less wide mobile email or maybe pull the bullet left and put it over here at center disc doesn't feel quite right to me but everybody's got a subjective opinion. That's my. So should we switch over to the next one? Color. It's a big deal. It's getting crazy over here. They're asking us to stay creative home I can get mind that they continue to use really simple layout here, same kind of layout introducing color. This time which I think is a nice change. Look how simple these graphics are to move people through. We were talking a couple of weeks ago about font. Shop And I think this is another really simple newsletter. There's just no nonsense right but they've done simple. So well, they've nailed this like approach everything is very elegant and so easy to read scan as a user to me. I feel served by this because I can. No really quickly if this is something I'm interested in and I just enjoy looking at it like the value actually just looking. At it is great versus so many emails that we get in that we end up having to deny and not accept to our feed. They're just too busy or they try and do too much and they just don't get down to the point and they're not enjoyable to look hat, which is not just fluff. It's part of selling your product. That's why brand is important I don't know man. I'm kind of obsessed. I think I've got a crush on these these emails when you don't use color and in using color really stands out and I feel like they're using these graphics really effectively to express emotion or message, and it's really interesting to see when you include enough white space in balanced out a while doubt out design system that you really letting the design system flex and taken. Some of these longer headlines and they still work on mobile and desktop. The only thing I would love to see is maybe a little bit of interactivity on these like just subtle, but it doesn't take much to add some interactivity, do your buttons and things like that. Sometimes the depending on where you're sending your email from coding and some of those kinds of things can be an issue but. I just can we just talk about the footer again? Sure no, that's. All right everybody this was a great one. I'm really psyched ready MAG. Well played my friends well played hey listeners, viewers, friends, email geeks. Let us know what brands you'd like us to cover. Let us know how we can improve or things you're looking for from us, subscribe like love give us hugs. Love all this stuff. So it's great to be here with everybody even there were virtual. All right. We'll see next Friday.

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Tato and Tuto | 4

Over My Dead Body

39:39 min | 2 years ago

Tato and Tuto | 4

"A listener note. This story contains adult content and language. On may twenty fourth two thousand sixteen an FBI agent in Tallahassee police investigator show up at a two story apartment complex in a palm tree line neighborhood in north Miami. Looking at the door inside her apartment. Katie MAG Vanua is on the phone with her boyfriend Sigfredo Garcia. Some special agents came to talk to me right now. Okay. What the fuck? I'm speaking out. I'm like what the hell's going on Sigfredo tells Katie federal agents have been at his work at the Balkan me. I don't know what he's to somebody called anonymously. It said something about a trip down homicide something. I don't know. So I was listening. I don't know I'm gonna call my turn here. And I'm gonna have them call you fucking. Insane fucking stocking. Don't they need to fucking call the first and no. Warn is they'll do Katie gets off the phone and waits for the agents to leave. She doesn't let them in. The next day. Seek freydl pulls into an Exxon Mobil station. It's a warm breezy night in Holland bail beach, a city just north of Miami. He gets out of his Lexus sedan and suddenly he's swarmed by F B I agents and officers from the local police department. The cops coffin then an officer searches Sigfredo and his car defined fifty hundred dollar bills a hand held intendo and some prescription bottles. They bring him to the police station where they find something else in his wallet a small baggy of cocaine, but that's not why they're bringing him in. We have arrested secreto Crato versa for the murder of professor Daniel Marquel? Mr. Garcia was located by the Honda beach. Police department in Broward County and take it into custody. The police release a mugshot irregular south Florida guy knows Hispanic guy beard goatee. Why care I don't know what a murderer? It looks like there is a book for murder, but I didn't get that sense from him see frito Garcia whose friends call him by the nickname to DOE has some history with breaking the law. Couple of arrests in south Florida. I think he got busted for not having a fishing license cocaine charge. I think. In fact, he's got twenty two arrests going back to when he was a teenager. This is still an active criminal investigation in order not to jeopardize his ongoing investigation. The probable cause in this case has been sealed by judge Saul shrimp. This will limit the information that we can provide you today Kara letters, the local reporter is at that press conference, and like a lot of people. He's wondering who is this person really find a whole lot about Siegfried of our SIA and the bigger mystery why in the world would this guy a Miami resident come all the way to Tallahassee to commit a murder? Still don't know the connection to Dan Marquel? At this point. Just the fact that somebody who lives in Miami is now being charged in a two year old murder and Tallahassee. Enters colleague at the democrat reaches out to Wendy Adelson for comment on the arrest. She promptly sends back in Email. These past two years have been an extraordinarily difficult time for our family. Although my children will always live with the tremendous loss of their father. My hope is that these new developments will finally bring some closure closure seems allusive probable for. There will be. Yeah. This thing isn't close to being done. Hey, it's Matt host of over my dead body. And I want to tell you about another podcast you're gonna love it's called obsession. In a new podcast. Sponsored by focus features new thriller. Greta LA times studios presents obsession a five part podcast series at doves deep into the culture history and deadly consequences. Unrequited love on the podcast. You'll hear interviews with former prosecutor in author Marcia Clark that unpack instances were unrequited. Love turned undesirably dangerous. You'll also hear from professionals in the field of psychology breaking down. What exactly creates these involuntary? Behaviors obsession. Also features interviews with Neil Jordan, the director of Greta along with others behind the film. I'm so excited about this show. And I know you're gonna love it. Make sure you listen and subscribe to obsession on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening to this right now. From wondering, I'm Matthew share? And this is over my dead body. The too. AM to I've got his blood on. Craze. The. The first season is called tally. And this is episode four Tato and to DOE Wendy Adelson hasn't given any interviews since Dan's death. She told us she didn't wanna talk on tape for this series is writing radio. I'm Andrea through it. But back in two thousand fifteen about a year and a half after the murder. She took a creative writing class that was featured on a podcast if you're just tuning in now for the first time Bienvenido that's welcome in Miami. Music here, by the way is from the original podcast episode. Ten months ago. Someone killed the father of my children. I we got divorced. And then he got murdered in casual conversations. I don't know whether to call him my ex elite spouse or my late ex-spouse except that late. Ex-spouse sounds like Lee TEK spouse. Wendy looks back at how she and Dan I came together and why they came apart. They married when I was in my mid twenties when I thought I could cheap system, and Mary a man I locked passionate love for because hey did not die anyway during marriage. I saw his intellect and big heart and thought he would make a wonderful father for my children are marriage dissolved after the children arrived as the loneliness of being married to someone that didn't v me as an equal krypton do believe he loved me the best way he knew how I mean, he didn't like fiction. So why read my novel, it was logic? Not a lack of love these shows a dark sense of humor. But she's also introspective. She writes about how would she presents to the world doesn't always match. What's going on inside? Danny used to tell me that everyone thought I was such a nice person and such a good person. But he was the only one that knew the truth about what a bad person. I was he was convinced. I had to. Diluted everyone but him after she finishes reading the class gives notes focus on the writing not the murder. The teacher says we're not the podcast cereal. And when Wendy sits down with her teacher afterwards to talk about the experience. She admits it was tough. I was shaking from head to toe, and I thought okay, let's just do this just dive in. I didn't have a plan to do it. But it just felt unavoidable. The words kind of just flew out of me. But then when I was done I sat there, and I couldn't look anyone in the eye and I was sweaty. And I just thought okay. Now, I've done it. Now, it's out there. Now what? Yeah. This was the only big one that we've found that with the we didn't know we had a criminal in our mists, basically Maria to sit Arado lives just a few doors down from where Sigfredo Garcia and Katie. Meg bana. Woah, shared an apartment. It's a quiet neighborhood. Only after we saw it in the on the news we've found out who he was where he lived. And we couldn't believe it. Marie remembers Katie to a young girl, polite, Catherine my band. Woah. Katie to friends and family is thirty one years old. She has long dark hair dyed lighter at the tips and a bright smile, she moved to Miami. When she was seven years old. She's my daughter's godmother fair you can chat to keep my house. I had to keep hers we've which the other basically twenty four seven katie's best friends from childhood is Indra Alaska's, and they stayed close. They even have matching tattoos. News of bumblebees when you Indra had cravings while she was pregnant, there was her friend Katy with the food. She wanted the both got into bartending. She really liked to though bartending life in the bottle service. Is it was it was fun. I can attest to it. Because I did it did it for a year, and that was fun. But eventually you Indra says katie's boyfriends Sigfredo put a stop to that. When you work that lifestyle. You have to were very small clothing. You you have to flirt with the clients. Like, that's how you make your money. That's how you make your tips as a bartender as bottle, garlic. That's just how you make your money. So he didn't like I was this girl, you Andrews known Sigfredo just as long Siegfried frito and Katie started dating in high school and have had an on again off again relationship for years. The two kids together Univer says yet Suk frito could be hot headed, but this this arrest and something else. Anything has like, okay a robbery. All right drugs. Okay. What a murderer like I would never. Ever expect you not Siegfried who was arrested Katie was planning a trip to Orlando to DisneyWorld to celebrate their daughter's birthday. She ended up obviously, not going. We still went because we already had patriot everything, and you know, we're taking our kids so under the polling, but it was it was pretty good. It was it was quite stating Katie Meg band. What makes a lot of phone calls in the days after her boyfriend's arrest, one of the first people she talks to her brother Francis. What happens fucking on? How would his mom? I got a lawyer. I have no idea. She tells him about how the F B visited Sigfredo a work and literally shit it because he's going to be a manager on his job because he's doing so good. And he's like why are you guys opposing supreme has been set up. She says the tiny amount of coke. They found on him. The cops must have planted. It. There's no way he would be stupid enough to carry with so much heat on everything that I went there doesn't make into an example, everything is saying that he was the trigger guy. I know he's not I know that sounds fair. I know that's something. That's kidding everybody. Do not know everybody. Everybody in Facebook knows. Everybody's calling my phone. Like Hello, activate your facial. Sukarno's booked at the Broward County jail. But soon he's going to be moved closer to Tallahassee to face the murder charges. He's there all alone. And he's able bucket grab any. He's committed enough syncing like they'll be sooner or later going to catch up on you. Not for something that he's he know for the rest of his life. Well, you know situation where they're going to do. Kiedis life is turned upside down in a bunch of ways. Now what they're gonna call him and interrogated me for hours. Probably you know, and I got him later for myself. Because like I'm scared. I'm already feeling a little weird would school with my kids because you know, parents and stuff I just want to I want them away from that. I need a bigger where to put bugging disease looking barging open the house, and I only have everybody in the whole city. Texting me. It's my daughter's birthday this weekend. And again, you knew you. Katy talks to friends and family who want to make sure she's doing. Okay. But she also gets another call from a friend named Jessica who says they need to talk. I ain't you ever believed to. Kiedis distraught. Jessica tells her she should stay calm. Right now, the calm down. Everything's gonna be stressful. Choose new can not getting. No, I can't say schooling. It was supposed to Katie when I told you been knees dating somebody stuck in no something because this you would've not came out on this. She told someone out. There's nothing. I've been going on with them. There's nothing on them. You would never to anything like this ever, you know, him. I mean, it's off. Well, you. They make a plan to meet Jessica tells you be careful keep an eye out for anyone who might be following you make double turns when you're driving if you have to but a half hour passes, and Jessica dozen hear anything back. She calls Katie again goes to voicemail she text her. Fuck it just come to my house. I really need to talk to you. As AB Katie text back. Gimme a sec. I had my whole family talking to me, please. Jessica weeds for over an hour until she loses her patience. You know? I need you to talk to me. I'm sorry. This is happening. But this shit's not even done yet. Still Katie keeps dodging her and maybe for good reason Jessica's married to the other man, the cops have placed in the Prius with Sigfredo Garcia on the day of the murder. His name is Luis Rivera. Luis Rivera was like a brother to Sigfredo their friend gender Velazquez says she didn't know him as well. But they ran in the. Same circles growing up, and she'd heard something Lewis was unknown gang member. I mean, it's no secret. He was thinking he's always been king all his life. Not only that he was the head of the north Miami chapter of the Latin kings, and he got a nickname king Tato at the moment of soup Fritos arrest. Luis Rivera is already behind bars in a federal prison outside Orlando. He'd been picked up in a big federal raid against the Latin kings a year before wasn't no surprise anybody. Because when you're a top crown and they do a Rico act. They're gonna pick you up. It's just going to happen now king. Todd to- must make a decision and understand if I put myself in his position, if they're telling me, listen, you're gonna do knife in jail or gotta talk, you know, he has children they want to come back home to at some point. Also, I can say is this. He he was facing the death penalty that that that's undisputed. Chuck Collins was one of Louis Rivera's lawyers on the murder charge. He says his client was in a tough spot. Was already serving a twelve year federal sentence. If he didn't want to plea guilty to the crime or accept a plea deal. The only other alternative was to go to a jury trial in put his fate in the hands of twelve jurors jury trial and the possibility of the death penalty or seven extra years in prison Rivera malls these options, and then decides. Yeah, I'm going to cooperate intentionally till a story or you give a statement that you know, is not true. Committed the crime of perjury, which is really the least. And he tells investigators his story of what happened two years ago in Tallahassee. Louis Rivera's slouched in swivel chair in a bear interview room in the Jefferson County sheriff's office he short much shorter than his friends Sigfredo Garcia five feet four inches and socks today. He's in his neon orange prison jumpsuit across the table from him are cops. I can recall when you I understood that you were going to come to Tallahassee because by fannies you've never been to Tallahassee before Rivera tells investigators that two summers before he Garcia drove to Tallahassee not once. But twice the first time is in June of two thousand fourteen a month before Dan Marquel? Murder Garcia picks him up in a black Hundai rental car. If big me up. Played college colleges. Here story. And came the pink of the same thing. Of a Molly. Rivera since he's used to jobs like this. I'm Jack Boyne I robbed drug dealers. He says they make the long drive up north basically the length of the state, but as they're driving Rivera learns that this trip it's not to rob someone. In fact, he later say it's not like anything. He's done before. So when I get him a car. That's what we come to come. Garcia shows him a picture of the man they're going to tally to kill Garcia. Also tells them the guy's name. But Rivera doesn't wanna hear it to show me the picture. He says the finally stop at a motel near Tallahassee where they unwind. They drink smoke. Weed. Stay up late. Back in the car. They'd get to work tracking down, Dan Marcal. I did. Yeah. But they don't do anything to Dan not yet. Instead the following for day and a half, and when they're not working they're party. They go to a hooters, he chicken wings and drink smoke more weed back at their hotel room. And that's when Rivera starts to get jittery about the whole thing. It's hard to care Rivera here. He's saying I don't think this is going to be worth it think about him. Even though they've known each other since childhood Rivera isn't taking any chances. He tells the police that he stashed an extra gun to protect himself from Garcia group with this kid kill you. Maybe. And so they bail on the hit they turn around and head back to Miami to go back to their regular lives. They don't speak about it. Again, Rivera says he figures the plan is dead. He forgets all about the man in Tallahassee until a month later. They told me. Look, we gotta go back. So they do this time Rivera, rents a Prius. It's got tinted windows a badly repaired side mirror and it's painted silver. Pine mica Tato in to drive up north again on the way, the car gets photographed going through one of the told of the freeway and then later while they're driving around Tallahassee cassia starts fiddling with a gun in the passenger seat. Somehow the gun goes off by accident. That was on this record. Oh, man. They stop cassia crawls under the car. The bullet had gone cleaned through the gas line. Are you serious? So we put the car gets a ride to an auto parts store. Visor rubber hose, fixes it himself. The next morning their parked on Truscott drive outside at Dan's house. When Dan comes out with his kids, they follow the car to daycare circle, the block with Dan drops the kids off, then they fall into the gym, and wait some more. Our? Jim when Dan pose into his driveway. He opens his garage door Rivera pulls the Prius right up behind. Feet away from his car. Tim, so. On a car thing. The. Twice. We we've. His again. But Rivera says Garcia pulled the trigger. And that was the last time they talked about it. So that's Rivera's story. But now when investigators want to know is why why did to get his best friend taught. So to help him kill, Dan. Truthful can give he said that. Yeah. He's saying Katie is the personal between the woman that wants, Katie. Put an. And that's what he tells you. Okay. Keady Katie MAG, Bana, one Sigfredo girlfriend. That's who insisted they go back to finish the job after they failed. The first time. Even though Rivera says, Katie and Sigfredo were on a break. Shoe chiel? I guess you told him if you want me back, you gotta go do this. If you want me back, you gotta go do this shit. So. That is true and is because the cave. Rivera tells the cops Sigfredo and Katie are calling and texting each other the whole trip at one point Rivera season, Al in the motel parking lot. He thinks it's a cool moments. We snaps a picture of it and puts it on Instagram. Katie sees the post and calls to right away. This should down if he's slowly. I. But so she date why we can't nobody. What is that? Mike, I'll be talking to phone off. But what about? And then as they're driving outta Tallahassee. Is done. Michelle, you have no money. Away when we get back to the house. He coach, buddy. If you didn't hear that he says that Sigfredo asked where's my money? And Katie said don't worry about it. I'll have it tomorrow morning. Sigfredo Garcia Luis Rivera and Katie MAG Banha will seem to live in world very far from Dan Marquel? 's they don't seem to have any connection to him at all. Except one if beyond these here asking for records for Katie. What? That she she works here. I would I wouldn't. Get any the weakest freight owes arrest the FBI shows up at a dental practice asking for records, a katie's employment. There the office manager goes to the back room and makes a call to one of the dentists, Charlie Adelson. Every year. She works. I don't know what you want. They're here. I'm not there right now. And insured ary stern. It's not my office. It's my dad's office. So I can't. Anything out? You don't have access anything. So I would do this. I would not speak to anybody. Are they there now or do they stand? I'm in the Bank. They're just waiting for me to come back. Do me a favor. I'm gonna call you from a landline on your cell phone. Okay. Okay. Over my dead body comes from wondering, the makers of Dr death safe for work and one plus one every great partnership is a love affair, and sometimes those partnerships are just as hard to get out of as they are to keep going in one plus one the new podcast from wondering you'll be immersed in the stories of some of the world's most legendary creative unions think beyond saying Jay Z free to call. Oh, and Diego Rivera and Google Sergei Brin and Larry page, you'll hear all about the highs and lows of these partnerships and learn how they created something extraordinary. Just by coming together. Stay tuned till the end of the episode for preview of one plus one and don't forget to subscribe to one plus one on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening to this right now. After Sigfredo Garcia's arrest, Katie Meg what gets to work finding the money. They need for a good lawyer. All in all legal fees could end up costing them anywhere from fifty to a hundred grand. That's crazy will but. And she puts a plan in motion. What I was thinking today instead of tagging everything I think I'm just gonna like everything the Greg for the voyeur move out of her apartment, get whatever money. She can I. Hannah is she that she has somebody who wants you to sender picks. I have pictures of it all started hearing. She calls freight does lawyer GM Lewis Tijam, a are you doing? Hold on all their on. Come up, something more. I just I was thinking if you if something new came up. The lawyer that I talked to is talking to Charlie and that, you know, they're having conversations, and that I'm assured that you know, Charlie's going to be copying. Police anything like that. So okay. What about me or anything about me or they? Again, about nine o'clock at night last night again that detective ice him from Tallahassee calls me and says what are you talking to what you wanna do? She you know, she cooperate police telling Louis Katie should cooperate. If she doesn't want to go to jail ourself. Better cooperate once you to cooperate now or pressing squeezing you to grasping and stuff. Okay. They don't know really who to approach in the family. At least that family now knows what's going on. And I know the Charleston won't be talking to. If she's arrested Lewis says, she'll also need her own lawyer, he came represent both Sigfredo N, Katie, and that would cost her even more. But that's not happening yet. He says you only reason they would be approaching is to arrest. You. I don't think they have enough to do it. Okay. Unless there's something that they're just holding on holding back. Of course, there insinuating that they do. But I, you know, I don't I don't know what that would be. That's why thought it was so important that we reach out to that family to see if anybody over there was talking or saying anything, and we know I know as right now that nobody is. Want to begin again by I extending our indulgences to the Marquel family on June. Second the Tallahassee police chief gets back up in the briefing room for another update during the past almost two years, even Durda tremendous amount of turmoil in their lives and remind everyone that ultimately cases about the murder, professor Marquel and the lasting effects. It has upon his family and the community up till now the judge had been keeping the evidence under wraps to protect the rest of the investigation. The today the date it was unsealed. So we can provide additional information. Someone tells me that the court document has been filed for his rest Carl enters the Tallahassee democrat doesn't waste a second. Again. Like, I'm pushing people out of the way like this is a huge deal enters opens up the six page affidavit, please out the probable cause it led to Sigfredo Garcia's arrest, and the first thing that really pops out to me is that Wendy ill since. Family is being implicated in this murder. Not only someone been arrested. But Now Dan Marquel? Ex wife's family is also being looked at impedes to the arrest. Affidavit. Investigators believe motive for this murder stemmed from the desperate desire of the Adelson family to relocate Wendy and the children to sell Florida, which is consistent with what Luis Rivera tells the cops. The wants to to kids. She won four plus kids that was kind of the what went to kill the lady wants or two kids back that was the plan. That's what I went to kill that man for Charlie Adelson's friend and colleague Marvin calls to check in on him. Really can't talk that about. Okay. Are you? Okay. Are you? Okay. Yeah. Fine them actually mama to work right now. I got some appetite patient wanting Sumi because us pain from his implant not that it failed. But he's throwing Sumi yesterday. It's actually your problems. Listen, you know, I care about you around the same time Siegfried does lawyer breaks the news to Katie. They feel the probable cause affidavit John pits on the the internet and stuff, and there's already, you know, stories about your involvement in the Tallahassee democrat. Okay. Just what was in the probable cause. Affidavit. Okay. So my name is out there ready. Your name shopping. That's really public record Charlie warns his friend to watch what he says Lord Mitch phone. Let me put it to this way. Yeah. Anything that? You would not want the FBI to be listening to don't say it on the whole all professional question. Yeah. Anything anything you're really close to work June the fifteen. Yeah, I'm coming in at nine that day. You're going to be able to work Marvin. I I worked twelve new surgery. You know know, you know, you re you read stuff, and you know, I just they can write whatever they wanna right. It's a free country and it stands. Okay. Meanwhile, it's now been a week since Sigfredo arrest, and katie's been dealing with the fallout selling your furniture moving out of replace cancelling your trip to DisneyWorld with her daughter. She's also been avoiding Jessica Lewis Rivera's wife, the one who wants you to come down and meet her instead katie's past Jessica's number along to her lawyer to handle you give my number to your lawyer. You fucking kidding me on what grounds Katie get fucking real. You know, damn well, I don't have shit to do with what's going on. I was calling you concerned to talk. But don't get it. Twisted. Why don't you go until your lawyer? The reason your husband is in jail is because if you and Charlie and this also fits Rivera tells the cops whose. The. In what ways to? Yet you heard that right as page six of the probable cause affidavit states. Investigators developed information that around the time of the murder, Charlie. Wendy's brother was involved in a personal relationship with Catherine Meg Banta. Or as Luis Rivera says, she was fucking the dentist the police and the FBI have been listening in on both Charlie's and katie's phone conversations for months methodically. Putting together their case. How much how much time even bowling an open people all day. I'd say off was I got a chance to go down and see. See my mom. See my nephews. Is that? These off. Oh, yeah. You know, I usually bon-bons. But if I replace all day keep that good life. Yeah. So so. So show once the arrest affidavit is public Carl enters assumes the rest of the story will unfold quickly. I fought that within a week that Adelson family would be charged as the summer drags on. He waits any weights. 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Episode 90: Valerie Lee (Mixmag)

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Episode 90: Valerie Lee (Mixmag)

"This is back that. What's up back to backers? This is Willie joy, welcome to the show. This is back to back. This is my podcast. How are you? How was your week? I'm doing great been working in the studio all week on some brand new music with some awesome up and coming producers that you'll hear about I'm sure in the months to come. We're Megan some some really fun stuff. And speaking of fun. My guest today is Valerie Lee from mix MAG, and I had the most fun doing this interview. It was a treat to talk to her. It was cool for a lot of different reasons. She's the first journalist I've ever had on the show. And that's something I've been wanting to do for a while. I'm really happy that it was her to be the first one because I'm a huge fan of what she does. She's the global culture editor over at mix MAG, which is a big deal, but she's involved in a lot of different. Projects. She does the on rotation podcast for mix MAG, which is if you like this podcast. You should definitely go check out on rotation. She's fantastic on there. And many of you might be familiar if you're one of the, you know, whatever ninety trillion people who watch the Coachella livestream last year. She was one of the hosts of that. I guarantee you saw her there. She was running around talking to everybody. She's a fantastic writer, and it was just a treat to talk to somebody else who clearly just loves talking about thinking about being passionate about electron EQ music. It was great. You're gonna love it. We're going to get into that. In just a second before we do this show has gotten a lot of new listeners in the last couple months, which is fantastic. And I've been hearing from a lot of people talking to a lot of people, and I get asked, you know, what's the best way. I can get involved. What's the best way? I can support this show. And I really. Cannot say it enough the best way that you can support this show that you can support me the you can help us grow. It's really just word of mouth. That is how we get bigger. That is how we get more resources to talk to more people better guests, everyone you want to hear from all of that just comes from the strength of this community from all of you guys listening out there. So if you have a friend who just loves music the way that you do who would really appreciate something like this just put him onto it. Let them know. You know, if there's a particular episode, you're feeling you could make a post about us even just re tweeting something that I put up there all of that is the key to making this show run. I love seeing all the support out there. And I've been putting in a lot of work this year to make sure that I'm giving everyone out there the best product. I can I have a lot of ideas for where this show is going to go and how we can grow more people to talk to all of that. But it all starts with you guys. And I appreciate everyone out there. Another. Thing that I do every week is I update the back to bangers Spotify playlist that is a playlist that you can go to every single week to find music from my guests myself music that we talk about on the show and just a lot of other related goodies just stuff I find that. I think everyone out there would like things that sort of fit in the context of these conversations the link to that is in the description of this episode make sure to subscribe to the show and don't forget, you can always reach out to me at anytime. You want back to back pod at gmaiLcom is the Email address or you can hit me up at Willie joy or at back to back pod on all social media. All right. So for this conversation with Valerie Lee, she's somebody that I had kind of had bouncing around in my head for a long time of talking to. And I was reminded of it recently because just in Baretta from the glitch mob was talking about Valerie and. How awesome she is? And it just sort of you know, realit- that flame under my ass. I was up in LA. And like I said before she was just a pleasure to talk to. I'm always looking at ways to expand the focus of this show talking to somebody on the media side. The journalism side was fascinating for me because I get trapped kind of in the artist side of it a lot of the times, and it was really interesting and actually pretty inspiring to get the perspective of how a different side of the business operates and Valerie's stories. Pretty amazing. I think she's kind of bridging the worlds of old media new media bringing a lot to the table. You can tell just from hearing her talk. She's got a million ideas her love of the whole culture, I think really just shines through. And when you're done here. Definitely make sure to go check out her on rotation podcast that she does for mix MAG. It's a fantastic podcast. It's her and another host talking about dance. Music interviewing artists playing some music. She also just launched a series with mix MAG called magnified, which is a ten part series looking at some up and coming artists that she and her team thinks a really exciting right now, I'm going to link to mix MAG, and where you can find all of her work in the description of this episode. So definitely go check that out when you're done here for the time being I just want to jump into this conversation because it's just so good. We went all over the map her whole story. You know, how she got to where she is crazy travel Coachella, snoop Doug's, we'd website. There is no stone left unturned here. That's all I'm going to say, it's fantastic. I hope you enjoy it. So check it out. This is me and Valerie Lee back to back less. Go. Citizen. Interesting. I mean, it's worth saying, you're the first journalist first person from the media's I've talked to on this show honored to have you here. I've been following your work and actually shout out to Justin from glitch mob. Yeah. He I think when their last album came out you and I had both done stuff with them kind of around that. And that's when I reconnected with those guys known them for a while. But not as well as I know them now, and they were talking about an Justin particularly talking about the work. He had done with you and how much liked it. And he was telling me, you know, putting the bug in my ear, those guys are they great students. They're the bathroom. Yeah. They really are the best. I mean, we don't have to go too far the glitch mob. But what I love about them is that they sort of occupy this unique space in dance music. Like, I don't really know. I think I even. Ask them this on their podcast episode was like who is your competition or like who'd? Yeah. Even play shows with there's no one else like them. I mean once you start thinking about the fact that they built their own instrument. You're kind of like, okay. We'll there is no one else. Like, you writing rock electric crazy live stuff, and they make almost this cinematic soundtrack music, but is still perform live at festival. I don't know. It's one of those things that doesn't make sense on tape. It's super cool. It's fun. It's fun to realize also how long they've been doing it. That was always the one thing because I became friends with Beretta after actually I was like covering them. Just as a fan when I was out. Dancing astronaut, and we kind of were friends on the internet and decided to meet in real life. And once I realized oh, my God, you been doing this for like ten years. I was a child when you guys were first doing this. And yet they're still so grounded and still like breaking the mold and doing things, it's just crazy. Still excited and having fun. Yeah. I know that's another thing too. And it's something I want to ask you about what you do as well, as you know, sort of how do you how do you maintain the excitement and the engagement, you know, as as any of us professionals in the music industry, right? Yeah. We all get into this because we love music, but then comes that point that inevitable point where your passion becomes your job. Yeah. And I think I'm sure you've seen I've seen a million times especially with older artists. The you know, they're putting in the work. The spark is kinda gone, and I have to imagine for journalism. It's probably the same thing. Right. If you start off excited to write about this culture in this music. And then it's I think here's the thing. I think with media I'm really lucky position where I don't necessarily have to do a lot of things that I'm not super excited about. And I think the reason why that is is because it translates, right? It's like if I go to a show to see an artist that I'm just really not interested in. I'm not gonna write something great about it. I'm not gonna have any good things to say about not because you know, they, you know, it's just not my taste, right? And I've talked about this a lot before, you know, when people especially artists asked for advice about like how to get their music covered by certain journalist or a platform. I'm always like just fine. The kids that are actually excited about what you're making like find the base head on the staff of journalists at the blog that you wanna get on. And they'll probably really excited about it. So that's been really I think a blessing in my job. And I've been able to kind of I think I was given like a really early glimpse of things that felt really far out of my Rome. What do you mean growing up? I think as a kid when EDM was the big thing here in the US. I'm so far away from. You know, growing up in London where they're like always there surrounded by electric music, everywhere, they go like their parents relating to it. It's exactly and it's like, it has a different level of respect out there and same thing. Like, I didn't grow up in Chicago. I don't know. I don't know the deep history of house are I didn't know that. So I've been able to work with a lot of people who saw the value in teaching someone like me about all that stuff. And that's helped me realize that you know, whatever you're excited about right now is so small in comparison to the wider genre history all of it. And it's exciting to take step by step in that way. Like, you can get excited about every little thing. But then also remember that like whatever you're working on right now isn't like the only thing that's out there. There's so much out there to like discover great perspective to have anyone. I think you're absolutely right for people working in the industry for listener. For fans any of it because you see that evolution with listeners to write and just people like the music is they'll get into it for one specific thing. And then the people who stick around the ones who aren't just the tourists their tastes evolve. In chain. There's so much to discover, and I think that's a funny thing that, you know, are John rea-, let's say electronic music as one why John we're such a weird genre in that. I feel like we're were. So harsh on ourselves. Like, we're always quick to be like, oh, we're like, Tunisia. Like, we're really small like people don't really care about us. But if you think about it like house music has been there from the very beginning. It's always people always come back to it. You know in hip-hop like whatever's on or you can kind of find your way back in road. And then also between John RAs. Dogs trying to get some attention. But also even between, John like, we're so nitpicky with each other. Like, it's hard for a person who loves techno to respect somebody who likes dub, stop, even though. There's there's plenty to be. There's plenty value in both an I well, this is something I talk about a lot and think about a lot idea of lowbrow versus highbrow culture. And what we do. And I think, you know, say techno voice is dubbed step is maybe a greater. Yeah. That because you know, techno has this stereotype, sometimes deservedly, you know, that's where the pretentious snobs are. And you know, that's like the the most evolved. If you had that brain me m- where it's like regular brand shiny brand exploding. Quoting Bryn, Pokemon. Right. After did you? But you know, and so it has that reputation. Whereas dub step is dirty, grimy, whatever, you know, Neanderthal music. Again, these are just the stereotypes I love both. But it's interesting to me because I the way I got into dance music and kind of my mentality. Still is the lowbrow stuff. Like, I was I was a metal head as a kid, which is another scene where you take a lot of pride in like, this is my thing. Fuck everything else. And and then I started with hardcore and happy hardcore and Kabir and that kind of stuff and there's a long time ago. But that's still like it's still in me. It's still in my heart. And I still love stupid simple Bangor music. Like, I love it. And but I also love the the more, you know, cerebral, whatever you wanna call it. And it's interesting to me. Here's the whole point. I was trying to make ten minutes ago. Tell me about the history of your job. I'll stop now. The whole point is that I think there's this weird thing where the highbrow culture looks down on the lowbrow culture. Right. But the low brow culture to me is oftentimes more accepting like, I know a lot of people who like the sort of quote, unquote, uncultured this the simple music, the bangers who love deep techno and weird ambient music and all that. But I don't see the reverse so much, and I want to bring it back to to what you do in journalism in general too. Because I I've always felt like for certain journalistic outlets, if you don't have that kind of cultural perception behind you, it can be easy to feel like you're just counted out. Yeah. And. And I think probably that's a hard line to walk. Right. As far as what do you said light on? What do you wanna talk about? Where is there? Actual culture worth reporting on. Yeah. Yeah. And is that something you've in counter journalistically? Yeah. That culture war. I mean, there's there's a lot to impact there. I think in general the whole genre war. Here's the thing. So for me for my experience, again, kind of going back to what I was saying about how I was given the opportunity to kind of be like the outlier in a lot of rooms really early on in my career, which I think helped me realize that there's value on both ends, right? Because like I started loving like Africa, and I was like front row EC like really partying it out. And then and there's something to be said about artists like that. Or, you know for saying low row like the dub step, which isn't always low. Rob, you know, let's just say that. Even the Dutch house stuff that gave to the big room how stuff which is one of the most mocked John reside feel like now a hundred percent. So if we say like, okay lowbrow, why do people look down on it? Why do like techno snobs or how snobs look down upon all that stuff? My thing was always like, okay. For each person. There's a different purpose or something that you're taking from the music, and I think that's just kind of the general divide. What always comes down to his like when you go to a dub step show? I think ninety percent maybe even higher you're going because you are trying to release an emotion and just like have a really great time. And have this experience that comes with dub step, and I don't think that's the case for a lot of people who go to for example, quote, unquote, highbrow show, if you're going to see someone who has like this really intricate live setup, or if you're gonna go experience a techno show in this venue that has like all this crazy history. I think there's a little bit of. The difference of. Why are we attending these shows? What are we hoping to get out of it? So I think that's where the divide is. Right. Because it's it boils down to the very simple. Like, oh, you just don't understand what I want from this. Which is why people get so angry about it being like, no, I'm like, my John RAs the best like, yeah. If you're trying to just like head bang and just like feel like you're getting like release of like, physical and emotion and all this stuff than. Yeah. Probably you should go to show. I don't think you'll get that from like this like beautiful like Niko jar show. Like, you're not going to get that kind of release think. But you're if you're trying to dislike appreciate like history and like go on the six hour journey with an artist like that's completely different. So and I mean, I guess that's sort of the beauty of the scene. We're in right. Is that you can have both of those experiences to you. And maybe at a certain point you want the one thing, and then a couple years later, you might want the other thing. Yeah. And that's also the other side of it. Least for me because I went through that of Lucien. I'm like I came into the scene because it was popular. You know, I didn't grow up in a household dot even really had a strong like music identity like my parents, loved music and in their own way. But I had the freedom to kind of uncover what my own musical taste was and grew up at a time when people were going to raves and EDM was cool. So I got in that way. And then did my research because I really loved what I was finding and then ended up being like, okay? Like now, I listen to all this kind of music that definitely wasn't the stuff that was at the top. When I first got into it. So where's your grew up? I grew up in a place called Davis up in northern California like UC Davis Davis that way, but it's a pretty small time. Besides being a university town. It's quite a small cute safe town. Yeah. And what did you folks do? Why were they in Davis? So my mom is professor she teaches it sucks. Stay up there. Which is why were there and my parents, divorced? So my dad lives in China. So he's off elsewhere. But that's why we were in Davis. And yeah, I think that's just I think what I was saying earlier about my parents, not really haven't, you know, like you hear about people who their parents grew up listening to Tom petty and the Beatles. And that's what they love like, I didn't really have that experience. And I think a lot of kids of immigrant families probably have a very similar experience because you're just coming from families that have different cultures and things that they grow up with. So I definitely wasn't like a musical kin with music in the house at all. Or there was I mean, I'll put it this. I like, my mom was definitely like she loves a good like soulful singer, which I think actually I thought about this the other day, I think it comes from just like her loving like traditional Chinese music, which is a lot of like opera style singing because she loves like the selene Dion. And they douse of the world. Like emotion on them. Like, I'm here. She's not alone in that. And then my dad was kind of into some more like traditional like American or western music, but it really liked that was kind of like the limit. Okay. So you were kind of just left to your own influences. I learned how to play instruments, and it was always like a lot of class like piano and flute and stuff like that stereotypical Asian instruments. But yeah, I just didn't really like music wasn't really even a big thing that I was like I'm passionate about like a big fan. Yeah. Yeah. Until I think maybe when I got to college. I think that's like really when it started happening for me. 'cause I I went to UC Santa Cruz. I and anybody who knows anything about the bay area knows that the berries music scene is just one of kind. Definite key where? Yeah. And it's just unlike anything even like having traveled all around the world at this point. Nothing is like the Bayer is music scene. There's like Barry a hip hop, which like I didn't grow up there. I was born in Vallejo. Put that out there. I do have like fair. Yeah. Me and. But yeah. So like, there's berry hip hop, which is like just so unique and like so much history to learn from that, and then moving to Santa Cruz, I became familiar with this really crazy fascination with electronic music, but not only electric it was like a very specific stroke like basic. Which is just really exciting. When like you're in college. And someone's like, hey like someone's having this rave in the middle of the forest like you wanna go find it. It was like, I guess. When you say like a specific strain of bass music. What what are we talking about in? What era is this? I mean, I think it's called like west coast base. The base nectar is probably like, yeah. Base. Probably like the number one kind of example of what it was like, I know what you're talking about guys like Minnesota. Yeah. Like all those guys. So that was just really it was so different than anything. I was listening to because I remember I would go to the catalyst which is a really famous venues. Yeah. And I'd be going for like hip. Hop shows coming from like, oh, I like like bay area, like the pack and stuff. So I'd go see hip hop shows. And then they also have like dance music people saw base nectar. And I was like I have no idea what's going on. This is really interesting. This is crazy. So that's kind of where I started an interest in like what was going on? When what about interest in journalism and in writing where you writing as a kid reading? Kid like where does that side? Come. Yes. I think that's definitely like I was saying as a kid. I wasn't like the music it. I was definitely like the writer kid. I was writing like fiction like chapter books and stuff when I was a little bit. Yeah. Like, just I I can remember one was about like a dragon a Princess it was very silly. But it was really fun and then not translated into like I got into poetry for a little bit. And I think there was even a portion of my life where I was like writing songs, and I've never revisited them. Really funny to see what I wrote. Yeah. And then that definitely came to life a little bit more. Once I got to college because I was one of those kids who went to college knowing that I should go to college. But not really knowing what I wanted to do. Yeah. And thankfully, I had parents who were like, you know. That's okay. But like, we really just want you to be there, and like figure it out, which is really supportive, and helpful way to look at it. So once I got there. I started blogging. Like for fun. And it wasn't. It wasn't like I had my own blog platform is definitely like I was on tumbler writing like almost diary style entries which quickly started leaning towards like I was writing about music stuff that was experiencing was this in the the blog explosion of the late two thousands. Yeah. It must've been I graduated high school in two thousand ten okay. So it was around that era. I obviously didn't know that that was happening at the time. But I was writing my own blog and did that for two years while I was in Santa Cruz, and I actually ended up transferring down to USC here in LA, which I think it was the whole thing where I went to school being like, I just wanna go to school, and then realized pretty quickly that I was like, okay, I like school. And now, I know what I want to study and USC has a really great communications and media department and degree. Yeah. Communication. So I somehow managed to get into USC. Which was a total. I did it. So you could do to. And you must have been decent school. If you're writing, you know, stories at whatever I was I was I was I was good. I think for me it was kinda one of those things where like college is definitely better than high school. And that I realized like, oh, I like learning about things that I care about. Sure. But I definitely was never like the typical Asian Syria type of always getting as and like just always doing the best. Which thankfully, my parents were like not crazy in that way. As long as you're doing. Well, I realized that I really wanted to get a degree in something around communications, our media and it worked out and definitely coming to LA was a blessing in disguise that I didn't realize part of the package and getting into US was really excited about. But being in LA really helped me like take the next leap into being like, okay? I'm really interested in this writing about music thing. What can I do with that? So that's interesting. So when you're in college and kind of in that transition point it was the second year that you move to LA thirty. Yeah. And at that point, did you have any kind of a vision for where you wanted it to go definitely because I remember I was I was I got to USC, and I really wanted to dive straight into kind of like the internships like figuring out what was going on. And I guess I might have had some sort of inkling that I was interested in music because I did end up a music marketing company and. He would. And it was doing really basic stuff like learning what a press release was and like learning how to make a Mailer campaign and realized that wasn't for me. I didn't like that part of it. But I did really like being involved in the music side. So that quickly turned into me looking for a place like like, I was still blogging throughout this whole time and blogging to no one I think is really important because I still did it even though it was like my five friends who didn't care about music. We're reading. Yeah. I wrote a lot about that. And now I look back on the stuff that I wrote. And it was definitely I didn't realize it was like journalism at the time says writing like, you know, opinion pieces and like features on like crucial things that were happening in the scene sort of unconsciously rating things they could be categorized as like pieces. Now just really liked doing that just like just observing the culture around dance music and sorry at the same time had your interest in dance music. I assume that was sort of growing alongside. Yeah. I mean, it definitely helped to be in LA where all of a sudden I could go to these huge festivals that always seemed really far away. 'cause like I think at that point. I had maybe been to outside lands like once or something and seeing like, oh, this is what like big music festivals. Like, but then you tell a and like hard was happening all the insomniac events were happening like every single weekend. So I got to quickly get involved in that. So that translated to me being like, all right? I really like this. I want to do this a little bit more seriously. And I I was looking for someone who could teach me more about you know, even just the technicalities of writing. 'cause I was in. I was in college. But not really getting that exactly what I wanted from it. So I end up putting in an application for dancing astronaut. It was just a cold call. They're like we're looking from a writer's and join them this was probably around the peak of their powers. Yeah. It was like high time for blogs at that point. Yeah. Definitely. I never thought about that. But you're so right. Like, I joined right one the like blog blog life. Strong. Not so good, basically like unlocking, the key to like the city of like you had to go to all of these shows now, and you meet all these people, and it was great because blogging is really great to do while you're in college you can like manage dislike here in that. Like go to class, and then write about your things that you really like lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. So that was what I did all throughout college, and I loved it. Yeah. It was great. And so was there any kind of theme you're known for anything specifically they hired you to do. Or was it kind of like a mix of different pieces. Yeah. It definitely I I just got brought on to be like a basically writing the news and just getting it out there. But I think pretty quickly I kind of fell back into the same trend that I was doing before of culture, observing, you know, doing more of like opinions of like, why is this happening? Like what what is instigating this? Where's this going? I remember. Over one of my favorite pieces that I did with DA was talking about the laws in the US that are related to drugs, and how that relates to dance music culture specifically, and I think a lot of people know about it at this time like the rave act, literally it was called the rave act point, which is kind of wild and just unpacking that history, and that was like the very first taste. I think that I got a realizing that it it goes a lot deeper than what you think it is. You know, it goes all the way back to what is like the nineties or even before that when they were like trying to crack down definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, literally then and like that law got so just folded into what's happening now. And that's a big reason why we went through that phase of all these kids were dying. And it seemed as though no one could do anything about it. Even though the media was talking about it nonstop. And there's like all these laws that prevent people who want to do something to prevent it from actually taking those actions will sure, and that's always the stereotype, right is dance music is drugs music. And you know, everyone there is on drugs. And that's what you do. If you go there, and for me, it's always been bizarre. Just because like I've never been a drug person. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I was just like a lame nerd kid. And I like this weird music, and like me, that's all it was. And in some ways still is. But yeah, it was always interesting to me because it's such a strong stigma. But I don't know maybe, you know, because I'm sure you've looked into this way more than I have. I mean, statistically, like numbers wise is it that much worse than any other music subculture. Well, that's the thing is when I started doing this research and getting really interested in this subject is you realize that it's just everywhere. It's not just physically just think about this seventies. When people were listening to rock and roll. Like there was there were a lot of drugs involved with all that. I'm sure people were dying. Unfortunately, it just wasn't talked about in the same way. It's the same thing with hip hop. There's a lot of drugs and a lot of drug references in hop. But it doesn't get spoken about in that way either. So yeah, I think it's just one of those things where yes, there are sure there are big majority of people who feel like they can't enjoy the music. Without drugs, and that's too bad. But there's a lot to dance music that is not just circled around that. And we know that. But other people don't I guess, I mean, how do you change that conversation? How do you change that perception I think it's about doing stuff like this, actually, which is why I was really excited till find out that you're doing this like telling stories, you know, it's so simple. But once you start talking to people, the people who make the music people go to the shows, and you talk to them, and you realize that like, oh, the people that go to these festivals. And dress all crazy are actually like doctors and lawyers like need that kind of release and want to do something really fun on the weekend. And they're all people. I think that's a great point just talking to someone in that way. Yeah. I mean, I think that's that's a good point for kind of everything. Yeah. The US is going through right? I mean, it's the same thing for artists like you never talked to an artist. And they're like, oh, I just wanted to like fuck kids up make them like take drugs music like that's never anybody's. Like, I've talked to a lot of his you've talked to a lot of artists like that's nobody's story. And then you look at places like Europe where they do have like that history to hold onto understand that like that's why people really like this stuff. Not because of the drugs that like happens on the side. But also happens everywhere else, and that's another interesting point too. So I mean, if we all make an intro and all of this will have been set already. But I do want to say your position now is the digital editor for mix. Meg am. I read about that. Yeah. I'm actually it's actually changing my new position, which will be announced very soon. Probably by the time because it's the exclusive I'm the global culture editor MAGS. Oh, that's really cool. And so actually that's even better for the question. I was about to ask which is talking about cultural differences between the scene here in the US, which as we've talked about there's a huge history to it. In fact, the roots of dance music are in the US, right, but dance music also has a very short memory. I think and it cycles through listeners and audience is very quickly. So I think the current crop of people who are excited about dance music. There's this young culture to right. There's a it's a new feeling thing. Whereas you look at Europe in the UK, and there is a history there, right and more not more culture. But it's more. It's an older older culture. And so for you, and for what you do, you know, be it reporting or the video content or the podcast or anything. Is the aim to talk to people here, or is the AM to sort of shed a light on what's going on here. And try to explain it to people elsewhere or little both. Yeah. I mean, I would say it's a little of both. I feel like this kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier about you know, I I never under value. The fact that early on in my career, I was one of the kind of anomalies in the room a lot of the time. What do you mean by that? So I worked with a company called international music summit right after I graduated which for those who don't know they call it kind of like the Ted TED talks of dance music series. It was based in it's been around for ten years now. So they've had it like kind of all around the world. And I remember at one point I was working with the conference, and I was like in this room. We had just launched a conference in China. Dance music was so so so new and I was standing in this room. And I was definitely the youngest person in the room. Probably I think one of the only girls, and I realized that like what I represent is what all of these people in this room who are super knowledgeable about dance music have been around like their managers of conic names that you see like top on the top of every Bill of every festival, but they don't really understand like what I can bring to the table. And they don't know my perspective. But they value that perspective, which is huge. And I will always appreciate them for doing that. And so it's kind of the same thing. It's like when mix MAG realized that they needed somebody on the grounds to be like, okay. The US. There's something really interesting going on there. We don't understand it even though we know about like, the extensive history of dance music across Europe and London, but we don't know what's going on over there. So we need somebody who can bring that to like our audience, but then also show vice versa. You know, the kids who are who were partying with me back in the day who don't know about you know, who was in the nineties and like who what? Acid house is what hacienda all that. They don't know that stuff. So it's kind of a vice versa. It's to put people in the same room. And be like, look, you guys have a lot in common might not realize it, and that's it's a very forward thinking. It sounds weird to say that. But I think it's actually forward thinking of an outlet like mix MAG to work with somebody like you in that capacity because and this goes back to I think young versus old sort of this culture war thing, we've been talking about where there are all these established media outlets four dance music. But I think at least coming from the artist's perspective the way, you always think about them is that they kind of have this older perspective. And they're not always at the the bleeding edge of what's happening. I feel like a lot of it. What I always says it can. I don't wanna put mix Meghan that category. Because I actually love mix MAG. Yeah. Yeah. But I I know what you mean in that like it can feel very inaccessible to a lot of younger artists or artists that don't fall like certain, John or something like that. But then on the other hand, you know, we were talking about the blog air, right? And that was the wild west and that was very much youth movement. Right. Yeah. And but now we're seeing this issue, and you don't have to agree with me on this. But I mean, even part of the reason why I started doing this podcast was I was sort of fed up with the really garbage level of discourse. That was going on in dance music, mainly from the blogs, which I think blogs are not doing so hot right now in in terms of everything really. But I think there's a content issue where before they were sort of contributing to culture now, they're just sort of Leting off of it. Yeah. Certain extent. So it's I think you're occupying. This kind of amazing space that. Hopefully, we see more of where it's the energy from the blog stuff being there at the forefront of the culture, but then combining it with sort of the polish, and maybe the maturity, yeah. The more established outlet, I think, well, I think that's a a responsibility that you know, people it makes my long before. I was there have taken really seriously, which has helped us kind of be there be where we are today in that they recognize that we have the ability to talk to some artists that are out of reach for, you know, maybe a small blog because they they know the history of mix MAG, but we also kind of oh that same power to artists that feel like they can't reach us because they're just getting started. But they've got a really cool sound and their their story is worth telling. So to be able to kind of like do a little of both because I mean, it was hard. It was hard for blogs because the media world change, which is why why the content changed so fast to kind of be a little less exciting. I think for readers and artists and everything they were just trying to feed into like what are people clicking on which? More about the money. I think yeah. Yeah. Which that's a whole different conversation. The money. Everything in media's crazy, right? But yeah. So I think that I've always really appreciate it like from what I've learned about the history of mix MAG, and the people who you know, were running the magazine like so early on. They've always taken it really seriously to be like, we need to we need to put people on the cover do stories on people that it'll be like their first big break because it can be that for them like a mixed cover really can be like, oh my God. That was the moment. Everyone realize like this person was going to be big. And then in five years, we're like, yeah. We were the first always also really cool feeling. Involved with stories like that. Yeah. I mean, not like I don't wanna take any credit for what like the magazine team does. Separate team. But I think that you know, we were one of the first people to pick up on Pegu as an artist who was like a really exciting person and look at her now, she is like has like the top track of last year and just like this huge phenomenon in her own way. And then just on my own personal end. I know that we're working on this really cool series. I love it's called magnified where we picked our team hands lectured ten artists that we're just really big fans of and they're artists that are small like, I would still call them small in a respectable way. But to give them opportunity like we are bringing them into the lab and they get to play their own lab. And we did these really amazing mini like documentary features on them, which is so rare for an artist, you know, because video contents expensive, and it's hard to do. So like a lot of places. Always reserve them for the big stories of the big names. But to talk to a lot of these people, and they're like, this is my first video interview ever. And to be able to find out like, oh, you came all the way from here, and like you've gone through all this already. And you're still just only at the beginning is a really cool new perspective. I hope that people like, yeah. And I think I mean, it's great you're doing that in general because I think that's going to contribute to the culture and keep it moving forward. You know, like we can't we should celebrate our legends. But if that's all we do, then we're just kind of retreading the same things, and yeah, it's interesting. I mean 'cause I think every story the story of somebody struggling starting off. I think is just as valid as the story of somebody who got over that hump. Yeah. Exactly. And it's interesting talking about the video stuff because I know you've started producing a lot of video content. These days you were the host of the Coachella livestream. Well, all right all video stuff. How is the transition for you going move? Ving into video and kind of new media stuff coming from more of a writer -ly background. I think it was a lot easier for me to be honest than it was for some people out there like we were saying before media changed so fast, like even past five years, you look back and things were just entirely different. But because I kind of came up in this untraditional way of learning about the world of media and writing, you know, like I learned from people that I worked with on a blog like I wasn't in the same room as these people we were over Email overdue chat. And like, that's how I learned which I think some people, you know, more traditionalist person would look at it. And be like, oh like, you didn't really like learn like journalistic ethic and all this stuff but benefit I would. And I think it has really worked out in that. Like, I've been lucky to be part of brands companies that really want to just try stuff like, you know, mix. Didn't have a podcast before. And we were like, well like, let's try it. And we just picked up microphones and did like test run. And we're like, I think this is okay. And it and worked, and it's like really fun to do stuff and same thing. Like, I didn't I've never had any training of like how to be on camera until like host and interview people like you, and I were just talking about earlier about all the little like things that you do when you're interviewing artists like you're worried about checking looking at your phone notes thinking like they might think that you're checking grammars and things, but like that's all stuff that we learned just by doing it. You know? So it was the same thing. So that was yeah. That was definitely a highlight. And coach. Show within come about. So there's this wonderful guy named Raymond Raymond Roker who works at Coachella with the team. And he actually started his own magazine called herb, you are b. Yeah, that's crazy because I was thinking about urban driving over here. Yeah. Because I was thinking about how mixed maggots still going strong. And how a lot of other aren't yes. And when I was coming up. Herb was like the like, I, you know, I got like an article in herb about some of my early stuff. And it was like I've made it good literally like ten Kavi thing. And now doesn't exist and no one even a new kid doesn't know what it is. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah. So those who know so he started herb many years ago and has worked his way up and is working with the Coachella AG team. And so he actually reached out to me on Twitter. And I was like who is this random person? And I did some like Lincoln searching, and it was like, oh, he's like a real person. He's not like some random creep like a real like I was I was like. Yeah. Yeah. No. So and talking to Raymond it's really great to see how something is monstrous Coachella can value something like that. Because you know, he came from DIY grassroots like I'm just going to make this magazine because I love house music, and I love the scene, and he still has that knowledge even though Coachella lineups or like so current and like everything they're doing is. So different than like what that was. So he reached out to me on Twitter. We had a great meeting, and he was like, you know, I just found you based on my knowledge of what makes Maga's, and it seems like you could be a really good fit for what we're trying to do. They essentially built out a new team along with mentally. He's done it for several years. Now, a new team of people who kind of knew their stuff about every genre. So like we had dusk who works at complex. She was all hip hop and a girl named Brittany who was just like this wealth of knowledge about. Live and rock music. So that was it was it was so fun to be a part of that team to kind of also like learn from people about other John rose because sometimes I get so like, oh like, I do know a lot about dancing Zik. But I don't know anything about other honors and to have those conversations with like young women who also new new their shit about. It was really really cool to realize that it's all kind of happening in parallel to what you're doing. And you're a part of a bigger thing. Those are and to hear other perspectives like Brittany. And I who she was like the live rock music girl. We had a really funny and lively and pleasant debate about the, you know, where rock music has gone in Coachella and now taken over by electron music. So that was a really fun conversation. I like really really enjoyed that chat with her. I was like, okay good. Like, this is this is the person I need to talk to about this. Let's get into. Yeah. And I saw a few of those clips of the interviews and the hosting redoing act Coachella. How is it different for you? Because you know, a lot of those were sort of these shorter like five minute chunks. You know, talking to an artist then throwing his, you know, some performance that kind of thing how did that feel was it different? Was it enjoyable to kind of or how did you change your approach when you know, you just have like a couple of minutes to talk to somebody versus an hour long podcast, or you know, yet, I page article definitely it's very high pressure. Also that because we're kind of like, the kind of tell you exactly how much time you have right before you have it. And you're like, okay, three minutes. Okay. What can I talk about in three minutes? But I was also really lucky in that the artists that I talked to you this time around because of the work that I've been doing for the past five six years a lot of them. I have met before and have interviewed them at different points in their careers. So to kind of have that chance to talk to them at Coachella, which I think a lot of people take like this huge like big important moment in their career, and they're just like happy and thankful to be there that helped a lot like, for example, Troy, I remember I had interviewed him. Maybe like when he was had just moved to the US and was like just people were starting to be like, oh, this guy's really cool. He's making like a really interesting sound, and then just like a year or two later to be talking to him at Coachella or he's like bringing out all these live dancers. And like has this whole show was like this is cool to be able to like you trust me. And that like, you know, I know your story. So I know what highlights like pull out right now that was like a really really cool way that it worked out. I think that what you just described that relationship is one of the things that those the more established media outlets can provide. Is there's that trust. Ideally, there's that trust between a journalist and an artist that can evolve over years of over coal careers. Sometimes that you don't always see with the more, and I just keep shitting on blogs. But like the more click Beatty just kind of like of the moment gossip stuff. Yeah. The sort of here in God. And you look at it. And then you never think about it again. Yeah. It's I don't know. I love those kind of relationships. I love thinking about how you can marry sort of the old way of doing things with the culture just always comes down to the fact that Eno a lot of people are like really jaded about music and music industry. But the two rules of like, you're an artist, and you write about music or visit culture, those are the two rules like you really in it just because you love it. If you're not in it because you're going to get a guarantee of Ilic, you're paid out like a ton of money or. Like, you're going to get all this fame or anything. But it's really the same shit. Right. Like it's like for what you do. I mean in the same way. I'm just making this up as I'm talking. But I for what you do. I have to imagine, you know, you had to find your own voice. Yeah. You have to you know, in the same way an artist does like it's all the same thing in a way. Right. Yeah. Like, you're known for a certain perspective, you're known for a certain style. And in the exact same way an artist would be. Yeah, there's a lot of and, you know, there's that's what I think my favorite parts of my job are to find the stories that are worth telling. Whether it's you know, you just find artists. No one's ever heard about or you have known artist for a long time. And you remember like there's this one story that really like shape them to be who they are. And I can like help them tell that story and show people like, whoa. There's this whole other side to that person. So how do you find those stories? I don't know. I think it's just, you know, just being true to just wanting to be a positive part of the culture, and like that person's story like, honestly. So just your natural. Love of what you're doing kind of a tracks. Yeah. I think that's what it comes on. Because again, it's kind of that thing where I never got official traditional like training. Like this story. This is how you know. Like what sticks? It was just more of like you realize that's what people wanna learn about like people don't want the like PR blurb from the artists that they're talking about like their new album, and they wanna talk about like that weird moment where they like met. Some person in the like, this is a real story also met like found a person in the middle of a jungle who is like playing on this like Japanese instrument, and they were like, oh my God. This sound is amazing. How can and they like had to go hunt and find that exact instrument. There's only like ten of them. Like what? I can't believe that happened to somebody like that happened to somebody. That's why they made their them that way that's cool is is part of the interest for you sharing those things too. Like for me. I was a DJ for long before I was a producer. And even as a kid before. I was a DJ. I was just always like trying to make other people. Listen to things I thought were cool. Yeah. And that's still kind of probably what drives a lot when I do. Basically like this really cool. And for some reason, you also think that. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just it's so cool to see how it connects people. I think I realized that a lot when I worked with I s 'cause I went to you know, I went to China and Singapore visa, and to me all these people who have that same excitement that people have when they first uncovered and seizing even though they've been in their respective industries for however long, let's talk a little bit more about that the IMS period. Was that your first, you know, out of college sort of I like major official gig working in media. Basically, you wanna contest versus right. Yeah. There was a contest. So a friend of mine had passed along this contest that I m s launched that year that I graduated is called the visionaries contest. And essentially it was pretty forward thinking of them in that they wanted to open up a door to young people in the industry 'cause they kind of looked around. And they recognize like, oh, a lot of our people that are involved are a little bit older. You know, they're. The guys that have been around for a long time. But we want to make it more accessible to people who are like, my who are graduating and really interested in getting into music, and the the premise of the contest was to find an idea to help either fix the problem or improve the music industry and present it, and it was really great because I had been doing that research about, you know, the drug laws in the US and how it relates to dance music. So I was like this is a great way to kind of just get into that. So I ended up entering into the competition and winning which is really great because the prize was to actually speak at one of the conferences, and they had one in LA that year. But then this is like a long story so have to bear with me a podcast. So I had this incredible billing I think I was supposed to speak like right after cascade or something like that. And right before Quincy Jones, which has I have no idea why decided like that was my spot. But I I've very much appreciate that. But anyways, all this stuff happened. Like, there was a technical difficulty. And then Quincy Jones arrived early. And they were like we really can't make Quincy Jones way. And I was like that's totally fair because it's Quincy Jones. So I was like, okay. Like all that. And I actually ended up not being able to speak about conference which at the time. I was like, no. Like a missed out on this amazing opportunity. But then Ben Turner, who is one of the co founders I m s was like really upset to hear that happen. And we ended up having a meeting 'cause he was like, oh, maybe we'll get you out to the next conference or something. And by the end of that, he was like, you know, what I think actually the conference could really use just like a younger perspective. Like I'd really like for you to start working on my team. So that was straight out of college. I was like all right. I'm gonna do this and help them launch. I m s in China really helpful Chinese and then did a couple rounds with them. But it was kind of funny because while that was happening just graduated and my parents were like, well, you got to pay the bills known like, okay? And I was great. But it was definitely more like a part time thing because it was like per conference. So I actually also signed on for different fulltime job while I was doing the MS stuff. And I worked with snoop Dogg's management to help them launch a site called Mary Jane. I like there's no reason to not. Yeah. So I helped them launch Mary, Jane, which is a a website kind of like a lifestyle website. That's all about lead, which is kinda funny. Because like, I'm just not like a crazy. We'd person like I'm totally fine with it. But like, I just have never been the kind of person. Like, I know all the strains everything that happened. So that was a really interesting like I jump into real life. I was like in the daytime I'd be helping them just launched from like a very like technical aspect of like, here's how to build a back in. Let me find you writers. Let me get you off the ground. Okay. So you're kind of doing everything. Yeah. It was the website had was not existent before which was very exciting. Because I was like I've really helped them build it from top to bottom all that. Yeah. From from school. Yeah. From working with dancing like it was so full circle. It was a really strange strange way of how it worked out. Did you get to spend much time with? New came in for several like big meetings. And he's honestly of nothing bad say about him. He's a friendly super nice guy was smoking like crazy throughout the whole conference meeting. But he just like he had all these really insightful points to bring up because he really understands audiences and what people are looking for. And what people like so that was it was it was great. It was like being in the the genius. And it was was about to say, I actually think he is kind of a Jesus. Yeah. He's reinvented himself so many times. Yeah. Can appeal to kind of anyone at any age? He's like a mean. But like one that you take seriously right time, which is very hard. And he's managed to find this space where just sort of everyone loves him. Just this lovable presents no matter how you perceive. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. He's. Yeah. He's a very very interesting character. And obviously like amazing talent. Yeah. So, but I was like working with there. Team as my day job. And didn't really tell them that. I was also working functions at the same time, which hopefully they won't listen. But yeah. So I would be kind of like leaving for a week at a time being like, I've got a number gency. I really have to go like so many of -mergency. Yeah. Yeah. It was really I don't know how I got away with it. But I saw I'd be like in China like awake at like four AM like sending an Email out to them being like, I'm not in China. It was a very strange time in my life. But it was really exciting to be able to like figure out what I loved and what I didn't like because I think by the end of like a coup- couple months. I realize that I really loved working, and I just like couldn't let it go. But also, I was like burning myself out pretty quick. So it all was like a like somehow everything worked out kind of moment. Where Ben for my mess heard. My like cries for help essentially he was like, oh, I've actually heard that makes MAG is looking for somebody like an editorial person in LA like let's figure out a way to make that work. So that's how I actually got connected. So it was all oh just being in the right place with our at time now, which is I don't know. It's like that old saying like, I'm going to butcher this. But it's something about you know, you're the luckiest when you're working the hardest. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a right time, right place. But also you're doing what you wanted to do. Yeah. I really hard burning the candle at both ends whatever you wanna call. Yeah. To me. That's when those moments always happen. It's not when you're sort of just sitting around and get lucky with it. Yeah. Why have to imagine to as somebody who said, you're very interested in culture. And dance music culture. Must have been fascinating working in other countries. Right. Yeah. And especially in Asia, which you know, China's still right now is crazy for dance music. How was that experience? You know, seeing it through different lands. What did you learn about sort of how they process dance music versus how we in the states do. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of my favorite things about learning it or working at S was how much I learned about the different cultures. And why they reacted dance music in the ways that they do China's specifically as you mentioned I have been going to China since I was a kid like every single year to visit family and just re up on my Chinese language. And so it was a really interesting experience to go to China for the first time as a work trip, and then, you know, talk to people who've been working in the country trying to build up dance music culture there, and like, you know, creating these festivals. So that was really. Interesting thing because it all it comes down to just every single like every single part of culture affects the way that they receive this kind of music, for example, obviously, people know that China's quite restricted you can't go online freely in the same way that you can hear, you know, Facebook Instagram all blocked. And at the time, I didn't actually even know that soundcloud was also blocked YouTube all blocked China. So such a different experience base level. Yeah. So that was the craziest thing is realizing like that people weren't hearing from people in China simply because we were just living on different digital planets. You know, they're all these kids. Who were like, oh, yeah. I've been trying to learn how to produce. But like, I can't look up YouTube tutorials. I can't go on Facebook. And like message my favorite deejay, and I've also got my tracks uploaded. But no one hears them, except for people in China that like if you just think about it for a little bit is like so mind blowing that you're like, oh my God. Like, it's insane. How we got here insane. Yeah. Yeah. So to like be in the same room. And then also like realize the way that they appreciate like when an artist I come to their country. Like, I remember that year that I was there like scroll. Headlining festival and just like to see the way that those kids react to scroll IX because he's literally never there, and they have no access to him. Besides like, maybe at this point. He has like a we chat profile setup. But I doubt. It's like, I doubt. It's quite as updated as his regular Instagram him. I guess even the biggest artists probably still felt underground. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And just the way of like what's happening in China's underground like it's crazy to think about that. Like, what are we missing out on? No, that's such an interesting question to me because in the states there are plenty of of dance music stars from overseas, but not a ton from China that have broken over here. Yeah. Really, none at all. And I honestly don't feel qualified enough to talk about like what could be going on. But it's just I mean, even just thinking about the possibilities is really exciting. And then I remember another like important experience from that conference was I met a bunch of people who had come over from India to conference to just kind of meet people and be in the same room, and realizing that like India has apparently they've got like hundreds and hundreds of dialects, and you know, like to Indian people could be standing next to each other not be able to speak to each other. And the way that dance music, apparently like brings people together in that crazy way 'cause they they don't have to be disconnected because of language like just little things like. That like it sounds really cheesy. But it really makes you think and be like, okay. Like there is like a very important reason why we're all coming together. And having a music conference to talk about it. I think sometimes feels a little like, oh like is this just like a ego? Potty other on the back kind of thing. Massive, Tori, work. So if you really dig in and let those people come to you and tell you their stories like, that's really cool. It's so interesting to me the way other cultures perceive what's going on here? Yeah. Because you know, I think we all know at this point in the last ten years like dance music in the states, just gone crazy. There's this big explosion. I mean, that's the reason we're all here probably still here doing it. But you know, you go overseas. Like, I think for my perspective playing shows over there, and it's it's perceived so differently, right? And if you saw sort of if you saw it on film with the sound off it would kind of look the same. But then when you're actually there, you realize that a lot of these experiences like I think about in China, you know, there's these crazy bottle service clouds right with his insane over the top production and all that. But then there can be this kind of mismatched energy where you can. Show up, and it's sort of like, you don't really know what they expect from you like, it's it it almost becomes more about the spectacle. Yeah. Never sent. Like, literally goes all the way back to what we started this conversation saying about everyone is looking to take something away. Like, everyone's looking to take something different away from the music, and even if it's the same music and the same artist just because of the way that person has experienced culture and life and been exposed to all that like, it's. Yeah, it's very interesting. I've learned a lot about the world through music has been like a corridor to travel. I mean, you said you you had been to China a lot as a child has music opened up like other places, you might not have gone. Oh, yeah. Hundred percent, I grew up with a big kind of inherent love with travel because my mom is a professor and she travels a lot for her work. And as a kid, she always luckily show, his took me along and kind of like. Let me see the world really on. Yeah. Super valuable. And so I guess like. Yeah. Places I've traveled to with music, I've been a lot. So I mean, I'm to all over Europe into like an Amsterdam and a lot in like Central America to Costa Rica to Colombia for like a day a lot in Mexico, which has been really interesting to learn about Mexico through music for sure. Yeah. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Yeah. Again. I think the US seen is maybe a little ignorant or blind to cause it is. Yeah. Yeah. Mexico. Yeah. I mean, I've had a very interesting experience with Mexico. The first time I was there. I was up PM festival when. Yeah. Yeah. When there was a shooting at a nightclub, and we were at the nightclub. Yeah. So what what was that? Like frightening. Yeah. I mean, we're you close to it was I mean is this like running for your life kind of situation. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. It's so weird to think about it. I never really think about it very often. But you don't have to talk about. No, it's I mean, I think people should know that that kind of stuff happens just like the current climate of what's going on. We had just gotten. It was the very last day, my friends, and I had been at PM for really long time. The festival was like ten days long guard. So he's been there for all ten days for some reason. And I kind of went into going to Mexico with like, the typical stereotypes I think where you're like. Ooh, it's going to be a little unsafe like apt to be really careful and it had been like a whole week of nothing going wrong. Like, no one like the worst thing that happened was like one of our friends swindled by taxi for like to pay like double the price like great. Let's go home. With that as our story. So we were all going to like blue it for the very loss party and we walked in. And thankfully, we were like we were in the backstage area. And we'd like just gotten there. Maybe like ten minutes later we heard like gunshots. I think you kind of really never know you don't can't prepare for them that like I think when we heard it. We were like wait does that really happening is that really what's going on fireworks? Like is it not? But I remember at the time when it happened. It must have been right ofter another mass shooting somewhere else. I think it was like very fresh in people's minds. So people started running right away. And we were like hiding in an area and just kind of like waiting to figure out like what was going on. It probably was only for a couple minutes. Yeah. Just yeah. You just can't really like prepare for a moment. Like that. Really? But we think got out. Okay. And like, I mean, if you don't know what happened. It was pretty terrible. Several people died security guards died. There was some terrorists that died as well. And I know friends who are also at the club who were in different parts of the club or had like really really really scary experiences. Where like they almost like got caught in a stampede. They saw things that were like pretty horrific. So yeah, I mean, I just feel really lucky that we were we got out. Okay. And it was fine. That's. I mean words kind of fail me in a way because it's so senseless, right? And it doesn't you know before. And after this thing is happened. And it's significant and it requires processing. But I don't know what you do with that. You know, the thing. Like, I remember after it happened. That was my first time in Mexico. And it was like you would think that I'd be like coming here. I never want to go there again like terrible place, which like I may never go to like Playa del Carmen again rush because it's like a little frightening to think about going back there. But I went back to Mexico like twice afterwards to like different cities. And I really had a lot of appreciation for people who had known about what happened, and they were like so eager to be like, it's not this way. You know, we have so much appreciation for this music. And we're like the people who put on these festivals have strong love for it. And yeah, I just think I mean, it's definitely something unfortunate. Ashby said like people should be aware that stuff like that happens. Certainly. I mean, it happens plenty in the states. Yeah. Exactly. So that's definitely one thing. Like, I you kinda take for granted. Like when you go to club or you go out. You're like I'm here. How fun like about anything? But like you kind of always have this moment of like, I'm gonna look around. And like do I feel safe here like my comfy here? Move. Yeah. I mean, it's it's one of those things where it's like that old name of lake you can't let the terrorists win. You know, if we start house, blah, blah, which is true. And I mean for me like I think about that kind of thing. And I mean, I'm lucky in that I have not been through that kind of experience. But I like to think that even if I did, you know, I would still be doing the same things. I'm doing right now. But you're right. That's smart. I mean, it's a weird time, and this I was just talking to together. And he was saying he literally I guess this like he has a thing about shooting like mass shootings, and it's like weighs on him. And he was saying he plays shows in kevlar vests now, and that's just like, wow. How how he's right. And I mean, that's an extreme version. But it's I think it's worth saying it is affecting the way people are conducting themselves on all. Sides of it. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Definitely like, I it breaks my heart like thinking about like the news. That's happened. Like over the past, however, many years every time, especially when it's about like music about that club him just like who've like people, I know, you know, could be me. I mean, I'm happy to say that like I still go out very often. And like still I I'm not like terribly affected by it. I definitely like the back of my mind. But it's like, you know, it's cheesy. But like he like what you like and feel safe when you got to these shows, you feel really happy you're just gonna keep doing it. Well, that's absolutely, especially for dance music. That's why we're all here, you know, going out because you feel happy because the music, you know, it's an escape in a way. Right. We've touched on the roots of dance music bunch of times. That's how it all started. Right. Was like it comes from communities of either minority or underprivileged? The LGBTQ community all that. That's where it all started. And it was an escape. Right. It was where you know, people in those communities could go be happy escape, you know, whatever terrible happening at the time. And I mean, I think it's still for me. It's still is that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's a good way to start wrapping it up, but. I honestly could talk about just know stuff like this forever. Well, maybe that's one more thing to mention is talking about sort of the roots of dance music, and you were talking about how you've kind of done the homework after the fact, right? Like, you got into it. And then started learning about all these connections and one issue I have with the Dan seen, particularly in the US is that it does have a very short memory. And that it often does not know its own history. Right. And especially as it pretends to minorities, and as it pretends to underprivileged groups of people who were the originators of this music. It was their music and now that it's blown up into the mainstream. There's a certain element of, you know, white people doing what white people do and just being like. Oh, yeah. That's great. I'll take that. I mean, so on your side of it from the journalistic side, how how do you thread that needle of shining the light on either the originators or the p the roots of it or the people who aren't getting the shine that maybe they should be versus the popular stuff versus you know, what people I just have this hunger to consume. Yeah. I mean, I think it just comes down to respect. I guess I mean, it's been kind of a theme of what we've been talking about this whole time of like if you like if I go to a kid who like thinks techno people are all snobs. And I'm like, hey, like, I appreciate like what you like. And like I'd love to learn about it. And learn about why you are such a fan of it. I hope that that person would feel the same way about the other end. You know, they'll go and be like all right like fine. Like, I've never really understood techno. But at least I'll like try it out. And like learn about who Jeff mills is. Learn about who liked the Belleville three are like really like figure out like is is important to me. And you know, if it's not like cool. Whatever. That's fine. Because there's also that element of like those like there are people who like it's always going to be a little underground fine. It's not for everyone, which is kind of the cool part about it. You feel like you're part of something really special. Yeah. And I think that's just kind of at least it's worked for me bus far just kind of approach things that way like even Besic that. I don't listen to in my personal spare time, I, you know, talked to a lot of artists that make that kind of music and respect where they come from. How far how far they've had to trudge along to get there. So when I I guess I I agree with that. And I think that's a healthy attitude. Yeah. I guess the the point I keep thinking about it bothers me even doing this podcast. Like, I've had trouble not making this the white dude's talking show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's both in terms of race ended terms of gender. I feel like there are that's a strong issue in dance music, probably all of music, but I feel like specifically dance music has kind of bad. Yeah. Even before when you were talking about that you felt like you're the anomaly in the room, and it's like a young woman in this group of older dudes is that something you've experienced in your own career as far as has it been have something's been harder. If people not taking you seriously. Yeah. I think I've definitely experienced my fair share of it. I'm thankful that. It hasn't been obviously hasn't affected me in a terribly negative way. Because I feel like I've gotten to where I wanna be actually thanks to the support of a lot of older guys seen the value of being like, all right? Like, I would like to bring this person in because I value like I know that they're younger, but also are willing to learn and can bring a lot of things to the table. And I. Will never never not. Appreciate that. But yeah, I mean, there's happens to all women. It's like you'll be the only one in the room, and like a guy will come around and shake. Everybody's hand except for yours. And you're like, it's fine. I work here this conference that you are attending. But it's fine. And they find out later, and they're like, oh my God. I'm so sorry didn't say Hello. And I'm like, really? Yeah. But I think it just comes down to like this conversation that we've had over the past year about, you know, paying attention to women in music has been really important. I think it definitely got to the point where I think a lot of women were like, I'm tired of talking about this, which is also really important to acknowledge respect. And, you know, don't don't like single out be like cheese, my favorite female DJ on your like, why are they not just your favorite DJ? They can be just a regular j too. Cringe like all female line. Yeah. And it's like I understand there is a good intention their country. But just to even just keep it in your mind, when you look it whatever project, you're working on and you look at a lineup, and you're like, whoa. A lot of white dudes. Like, no one knows. It's cool. Like, you still should pick. Someone who deserves it like don't pick someone just because they're woman or minority or whatever. But I mean, we've rude recognized that like throughout all of our time makes a lot of the work that we do naturally, thankfully. It's just included women and people who are minorities, but it is important like when we look at something like, okay, like we really have to make an effort to like if we don't know of someone who fits into this mold like, let's dig someone's out there and just to take that extra effort and just to follow that logic of you know, because they're always be those. Well, just call them Astles will make the opposite argument of you know. It's just merit based you know, the best person for the best job. But if you follow that logic line, and you say, okay, there's like an all white dude festival. And if you actually think that only white dudes have that merit. Then are you just think that white dudes are better, and like I'm not gonna follow that way down? But we kind of know where that goes. That's that's a dangerous row at man. That's the other thing is I mean, all it all relates like, you go see these places other places in the world. And you're like, whoa. Like that person deserves my attention. I just for some reason have never seen them before. Because they just haven't been like the typical place that I look that it apply like in China. I don't look in China for like Sonko DJ's because then on there. But there are probably many of them that are really awesome. It's the same thing for women. It's like, I'm I think now it's it's very encouraging to see how many people are really getting into it. Whether it's like, you work behind the scenes or you're an artist or you're right, or whatever. Like I've seen a lot of women who have been like I'm stepping up to the plate. And I'm going to be here. Whether you like it or not. The media side have. I mean, I'm sure it does. But does it strongly have those issues as well? As far as a lot of it being white, dude, focus because I see more from the artists side where I definitely noticed the issue. But I've never really thought about if it's the same thing on the media side. I would say I mean, probably as much as any other industry, there is a level of it. But I think that from what I've noticed at least there's less of it in in the sense that I think a good media outlet respects different perspectives and different ways that people tell stories and the number one way to do that is to find people who are different, you know, like, you you get a different story when you are, you know, younger than that writer or you grew up in a different place in that writer, or if you look different than that writer. I think you just naturally will get a different story because you're looking at things differently and people talk to you about different things. So I think less in that way. But I mean. As every industry there. Yeah. Of course. And I think that's that's a good note. Just for anyone who thinks about getting into this industry. Right. Is that your perspective? And what you bring to the table is more valuable than almost anything else and your specific experiences. No one has that. But you so. Yeah. How much of what you do for your work is something that's pitched to you versus something that you personally, just say, I wanna write a story about this. And what do you look for when it is pitched you like what catches your your is? Yeah. I mean, I think definitely at this point care. It's a lot less of like what's pitched me versus like. Okay. I found that really interesting, and we're gonna go for it. And that's not to say that PR is important because there's a lot of Allieu in having somebody on your on your side working really hard on the PR side. But yeah, I think I just realized a long time ago that people. Are looking for stuff like this. You know, like they wanna hear the kind of off guard perspective of like an artist or story, or whatever it is. They don't need the same click bait copy paste post that has been fed out to a lot of people already. And it takes a lot more work to do stuff. Like that as I'm sure, you know. But I think the value is always so much higher. You know, like, you always get along people like when somebody comes out of something that you created wrote recorded, whatever. And they're like, wow. I really like never thought about it that way or like that's new to me that that's like, oh, I've done it. That's it. I'm good. I don't need anything else. But that or if they're like angry about if they don't agree with it. But they're like thinking about it differently. You're like cool. I don't agree with you. But like at least you're thinking about it differently. That's awesome too. So it's a human connection again. Right. Yeah. I think that's so valuable I'll wrap this up the only other thing I wanted to ask is this whole time while you were talking I've been thinking about the questions I ask a lot of artists on this show. And one thing we end up covering lot is sort of musical influences, and that sort of thing, but I'm curious if on urine were there writers who influenced you along the way or other outlets. You know, any big ones that really affected the way you thought about what? You did or change the way you thought about what you did. Yeah. We're even your life. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, there's a lot of really impressive music writers. But I think as you finish that question is that other people in your life, and it kind of always comes down to I mentioned before that like, my mom traveled a lot when she was when I was young and she took me with her, and my mom, actually is a professor of criminal Justice just kind of wild and her research specialization is in human trafficking, which is kind of crazy when you start thinking about it. And I grew up with that like a early exposure. I think to that kind of subject early on. I think which obviously it's a pretty dark and terrible subject. But it helps you think about the world in a different way. When you learn about stuff like that exists early on in your life. And yes, I think that that really helped me put a strong value on like, okay? There are so many stories that are underneath the surface big difference between. You know, reading an article about something versus digging into it yourself, right? And starting to tell the story from your perspective. Yeah. Like hearing the stories that she's like learned about from interviewing people and just being in the same room as people who were like spending their whole lives learning about this kind of subject. I obviously don't do research on very similar subject. But I recognize that I have that same interest in learning about like, why does the music affect people this way, or like why is this all happening because of that? And I think that that love that interest for me came from like her murder, but that's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Shot at mom shout. I wanna talk about just what you're doing right now. I wanna make sure we mention all the stuff people should go. Check out. Obviously, you have the on rotation podcast, which I feel strong kinship with you about that. Because I think we're kind of the only two people making stuff like that as far as I know, there's some other. I don't. Yeah. I don't see that anybody. But in terms of like, it's a podcast about music. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And it's it's you and another host. Yeah. Harrison the other host and yet speaks MAGS podcast. And we kind of approach it every week where we talk about just things that are going on that we cover on the website. But then also kind of perspective from us just being to people who are also really different. You know, he's like total New Yorker like Brooklyn I and like a DJ he like is such a music head, and I respect him so much for that. And then I come from a very different perspective like growing up on the west coast. And so we we have a really fun banter. I think about all the things that happen. And then we talk about like new music and always interviewing artists, so it's really cool, and you're also making a lot of video content. Yes. It's almost to me. I know it's all sort of part of the mix MAG job to me that almost feels like the separate show. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's definitely a treat like makes MAG has really pushed hard on like creating more like original cool stuff like. We've been working on like I said this magnified series that I'm really proud of is our most recent ones check that out if you're listening. Out. Now, there is still rolling out. I was going to speak, but probably by the end of February they'll all be out. So it's just like a really cool series that shines light on some artists that hopefully, you have heard of them, and maybe haven't heard of others, but they're all kind of like worth your time, which I think is a really important thing. Learn about all kids. Yeah. Yeah. That's literally my favorite. Yes. Like that that new energy? That's I think what keeps me here. Is there anything else? You wanna talk about that people should be looking out for anything. You're working on anything that your new. Yeah. That you're excited about I mean, I'm excited about. Yeah. My new rule it makes Maga's just going to be a lot of what I'm doing. But then also taking us into like just places that we haven't been before. Like, you don't realize until you start being told that like dance music is everywhere. Like, it's in fashion. It's film. It's all over the place. So hopefully, it'll be seeing a lot more from that. Besides that it's kind of funny like I'm not an artist. I'm like, what am I surely? Yeah. Doesn't need to be allowed. I mean think with what you do you're always working. There's definitely like projects that I hope to bring to life. I think in the next year or so, and I just hope that people realize, you know, like being journalist is kind of a funny thing nowadays because it's like, I hope that people appreciate my perspective. And like wanna hear more of the things that I've learned in the things that I'm observing? So I appreciate you. If you're following along in the journey, and there's more to come. What what is it that keeps you here? What's exciting to you? Right now, what still fun about what you do. What's the most fun part for you? There's just like never not something that I don't know. I just can't know everything even the discovery. Yeah. Like, I'm always learning about new artists or like new parties and new festivals or whatever it may be. So there's just never not something that I'm uncovering and sell like, I just hope. That I can do my part and showing the people that love this stuff. I'm glad you're here doing it. This has been really fun. I'm going to end with the same question. I asked at the end of all of these just a moment in your life. And it could be recently or could be from when you were a kid when in a moment music, really deeply affected you. And that could mean change the way you thought about something it could mean was connected to an important moment in your life. Yeah. Give you goosebumps. Just kind of the first thing that pops into your head. Yeah. Well, actually, new you're gonna ask this question. Listener guy damage, but no. But I mean, I genuinely thought about it not for too long because I was like should be one of those one of those what I love the by the way, you're the only guest I've ever had who asked me how they should prepare. This literally the only one that's ever has unlike the interviewer gets interviewed, maybe so happy. But then it made me question my own preparations. I didn't know what to tell you. I know it's been great. I like the way that it flowed grid. Yeah. So I think the moment that I can never forget, which I now think holds a lot more weight as I get older and realized that, you know, like when you grow up with parents who they're not necessarily like music, I kind of people I think when they do kinda show you something that they get really excited about it it sticks forever. And I remember my dad he was driving me around at some point when I was probably like a young teen. And like so in like typical DUI dad fashion. He's like. Like, I've got this really cool CD that I'm really excited about like. Let's listen to it. And I was like, okay. And he pops it in and it's like, it's Paul Simon's. Graceland. Just classic. It was like new to him at the time. And like, I just remember. We're listening to like you can call me, Al. And like I had I had like the CD booklet out. And I was like reading the lyrics, and I was like, I wonder what this all means. What does he talk about? And we were just like having such a good time like listening to because it's just like such good Vic and just like such an innocent. Like, I don't know what any of his music's about or anything. I love that the in to me that that just makes me think of a theme that's been running through this whole conversation. Which is just the connection that music can bring people, right? Yeah. It brings you and your dad together, you share this experience later on you think about that music. And remember it finally because you had this moment, and like he's from a country that doesn't speak the same language, but it's like jamming out to Paul. Yeah. It's really fun for me. Yeah. I love that. Well, this was great. Thanks again. Yeah. You feel good. I feel great. It was really. It was really fun. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. Let's do this again sometime. Yeah. All right that the show shout. Valerie that was so much fun. I had a great time sitting down with you. I really do. Hope we get to do that again sometime. Make sure to check out all of her projects the on rotation podcast all of her work with mix MAG the link to that is in the description of this episode. My name is willy joy. I hope everybody out there in -joyed that as much as I did. I hope you're having a good week. I hope you're taking care of yourself. Let me know if I can help you can always hit me up back to back pied g mail dot com or at Willie joy or at back. Toback pot on all social media. You know, let me know what you think of the show. Let me know who you wanna hear from what artists you'd like to see anything you want to chat about really I'm around. So just holler. At me. That's it for this week. That's it for January. God damn that went fast twenty nine teen. We're often running. I hope everyone out. There has a great. Week, and I will talk to you next Tuesday for back to back. This is Willie joy peace.

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Kinda Cute  Ep. 13  Bon Appetit Gone Wild, Dev Patel and Timothee Chalamet Both Have Perfect Hair, & A Rihanna Smell Update

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Kinda Cute Ep. 13 Bon Appetit Gone Wild, Dev Patel and Timothee Chalamet Both Have Perfect Hair, & A Rihanna Smell Update

"It's kind of cute right hello and welcome back to kind of cute and if you are new here welcome I'm your host Bailey in an Kinda cute we discuss articles from the cut and my general pop culture Mu Zang's not gonna lie guys I was worried that wasn't going to slip off the tongue quite as easily as already is because we're discussing the cut which you know obviously New York Mag but more than usual where we're dabbling in the New York this week so anyways back to Champ Dan my sister got a sweatshirt it's a beautiful lavender pinkish color it's orchids she says I'm in till I was like giving toast which I didn't even really want to do somehow was told that I needed to give a toast and you know I was I was feeling it as like it could be user error so then the weekend after that I went to one of my dear friends weddings I'm so happy for Eric. Congratulations guys and my ankle I couldn't even feel but the next day I woke up with a fricken Zine on Nebula on my leg it went from the kneecap up to the upper eleven pro not great really not that impressed with the picture quality but maybe I'm just doing something wrong like I fully acknowledged I would never send you a text asking for ice and if you come to one of my parties there will be ice aplenty and fact at my party I also had dry ice today Turkey turquoise embroidery that says if you haven't guessed yet kinda cute and I z. who it wasn't her birthday but she was along with us and she got a customized champion sweatshirt which I shout out to champion like if you WanNa get they do free of customization on Saturdays so check that out of here in New York and I'm sorry ahead of time this is going to be a very New York themed podcast any type of ice you want I had a light up ice cubes that aren't actually cold but they light up and they look super cool I think the party went pretty well so as I said in my last podcast I was leading into the weekend where I was throwing my party it was love potion deemed and fittingly that week the cut came out with is to last weekend I went to New York for my sister's twenty first birthday which I think I told you guys about in the last podcast and I have to shout out my sister article about how the worst tax that you can get before a party is can you get ice and I would just like to go on the record saying I would never do that to any of you then I was traveling for work and then the next weekend I was Kinsey what was I doing the next weekend oh I was in New York oh my gosh guys that brings I feel very in the moment and like I want to do this well I south side and I stood on a plastic chair and honest I it was about four inches wide two feet long just getting my legs that long but like it was the whole length of upper thigh and then later on the night when I was done pretty much I was literally having like a little nightcap with my sister where we were just grabbing a beer just the two of us and as I was walking disgusting human being but invigorated and I'm sorry to interrupt again but I'm currently babysitting Kristen's I'm sorry puppy sitting Christians new puppy something customize it's fun to go there and you just like pay whatever thing you want and they will embroider you can put fun patches on it and I didn't think it was overpriced and I know a lot of times six chair street up like felt the rue it bruce like at the time really wasn't in pain I think it was drunk enough to not notice it I had a little cut on the it's mortgage Berg like but but I literally eat everything I drink everything I come back feeling like Kenzi likes to I I like to act my producer but really she just talks far off microphones that I then have to reiterate what she's saying so she's advised me it's orchid stop no there was already like a significant amount Tequila in the drake and then she poured in like multiple knuckles worth of brandy on top you know I was already stake was right beforehand we had what was maybe the strongest Marguerite I had it was delicious I love the bartender there it was at someplace called Doug add cements whereas my loyalists fan and I'm just gonNA throw this out there right now I just thought of this I am going to say right now my first run of merge it dropped my phone shattered it to the point where it was just a broken screen it was straight up broken phone that I then could not use for the next five days until I got a new one and I have to say the Oh people that leave a review it has to be five stars because I'm a con artists like that on Apple podcasts. If you're not familiar how to do that just go on Apple Pie Monday morning because I had tickets to go with Elena of course you guys know Elaine I mentioned her every podcast I'm sorry girl you are literally the the beacon feeling Kinda good and I get to this Patina that and I decide I'm in full journalistic mode I am like I am here for the and Rick was making tacos and Alex Delaney High Buddha beer with threes brewing which is a brewery and Ghana's Brooklyn got there and I really are I miss they Christian we love Rooney maybe we should trade dogs back to New York we say we just did so much we went to the Whitney which was like maybe I will say that he on the record he told me that he did not get to meet Kiki the night before when she attended the Bona petites hot ten of it much but they have the best food so it's like you kind of have to do that when you're there and on the last day though my sisters were flying home on Sunday and I was flying home of kind of cute we had to go to the bone petite event that I talked to you about in the last podcast and it was hosted by Alex Delaney and Rick Martinez it was kind of cinematic because as I was like let's get up like at the end of my life kind of sappy toes which says day I don't really remember what I said I fell through the he's adorable his name is Rooney he is much better behaved than might all my dogs being a little diva man and it's Christmas birthday tomorrow so shout out to her happy outcast buying Kinda cute leave Afifi Review and then leave a written review I will send you my stickers and my first run just de Meer address I promise I won't Stock You oh shoot but I was like okay we met a male model last night apparently he is very tall and so the first question right off the bat was if he got a lot of so I asked him about that and then he informed me that he actually has a friend who does press for or did price for the Hustler hustlers the movie which I felt was very fit kind of like a male model at this point he posted these picks of him that were like very model askin multiples and I I'm sorry I forget who did it who do the luke she had her own show at New York fashion week I asked why they broke up because I'm a monster like baby Jesus why did I ask that and the list goes on the first cultural thing I've done in Newark need very long time I went to the met like years ago and since then I basically just drink too much and I think I just asked incredibly invasive questions as I was drunk off my ass so I came right off the bat to Alex Delaney he's the drinks editor at Buna petite list the Douglas it was right next threes brewing. She was so fun so cool dose us with these Margaritas though like she like I thought she was pointing at Tequila Shots Kinda cute listeners. I'm going to give them what they want I'm going to give them what they came for I'm going to ask the questions no one else's willing to ask instead mm for this podcast again it was based on the cut article the Hustler's at scores and that whoever that was got to hang out with J. Lo and behold but again we were asking what people wanted to know I was taking full on photo shoots of strangers I encourage this adorable girl who's wearing a bona petite I think I would like it to be selling small like stickers I'm thinking stickers so i WanNa make a Kinda cute sticker and for the first fifty gardens right five zero Shebang Lily reinhart concerts we'll I'm sure Kiki but yes so as the night went on my questions became more and more basic for example I asked him if he and by me at Bailey Evan or Kinda cute podcast or even at my dogs at groggy palm and we had the best time we did so much every time I go to New York it really is just like mortgages board I almost said it did in fact date Susan Alexandra and Susan Alexandra mix those adorable little bead bags that you probably see among those hip girls she's been featured in been there I mean Holy Shit I would flip by because a fucking Love Kiki get on the Kiki Palmer train if you're not already on it Chu Chu I guess the better question would have been do people like flirt with you in the DM's because obviously back goes down like if you get a random dick pic or boo pick from someone are you really going to engage in fact no one I talked to me Kiki which actually made me feel a little better that I hadn't gone the night before because if I thought there was a chance of meeting Kiki and I had he's like Bazar south-east I might put them on the kind of q podcast instagram page but I'm not sure if the shame will allow me to they are that bad it's not usually but sometimes it is like I don't know if I mentioned the whole story about Hunter Mcgrady and how she met her husband through snapchat so I'm kind of like tied together at their tails and they just become this disgusting Blob I brought everyone down to the sewer with me I was like being seeing ask a question she is secretly hated any of her coworkers to which she responded she didn't so we didn't get the juice there but we did again get into disastrous photo shoot all and I think that is all my updates I just came back a wreck human being on Monday I almost vomited in my airplane which was a first for me elated with that I would like to know so I asked him that I also technically said it was off the record so to protect his privacy Dick and boo picks into the DM's because I'm always fascinated about this was snubbed because I feel like so often people will acknowledge that they encountered someone I also got the point where I was encouraging everyone around me to get on my crazy train like the little rat king I and you know how the rat kings are those bundles of rats to get oh we actually this really goes to show how embarrassing it was this event ended at six we were there till seven thirty this is awful photo shoots immediately off the bat my answer would be this US I don't see the appeal I truly think it's awful and modern love I like better than that it's not part again I apologize to everyone who had to witness that yeah I said it in my ascribes where I'm sorry to this man shout Kiki a huge anti this is us fan like I am not a fan I think if I was asked like what is one thing that you hate that everyone else loves moving onto our first cut article of the day I really wanted to talk about this because I wanted to see if any of you guys have been watching modern love it's on Amazon prime and I have watched I think six episodes at this point and I have to say like I'm not that into it and maybe this goes back to me being like she writes while the plot is corn superficial it also confronts real questions about pain and love puppy palace popping off nations bona petite they're on the cover they each have their own cover these poor people elena at least a leaner joined in and she has a sweet Christina if were awful and unfortunately I had turned off the live function so there's not much saving of them that can be done but you know what the thought was there if some leeway taken some fictionalization done and I think my favorite episode so far is the one with Death Patel and even not one was like picture do a photo shoot I lost my damn mind I also met Rick Owens and Christina today and they're actually on the Thanksgiving times and I do like reading those I haven't read them in a few years but I remember back in the day I was obsessed loved them each episode is roughly based on one of those articles with the teacher and all of its glory and girls if you're listening and I did not airdrop all of the photos I took of you please me and I will send all of them too I've been the way episode was a dumpster fire again you guys do I love representation. I love talking about mental health I love mental health being included in mainstream it confronts real questions about pain and love and infidelity in a way that still sort of relatable but that's for another time one thing in dealing with that subject matter but obviously whoever wrote the article that was must have been her experience and I respect that but Anne hathaway let let's get to it and how is I shall amaze beautiful hair by Eric Smith and now I also don't intend to be having a two weeks in a row talking about timmy shallow way but he is the man of the moment and because death looks perfection it I've been a fan of Patel Saints slumdog millionaire a just a gorge Jonah film absolutely sure of I two would have left my fiance for Ted Patel and his glossy locks I'm sorry spoiler alert that was a major spoiler I'm sorry I fucked up but I just had to agree and I don't mean to segue into another gerhard hair article but it's happening in this one is no one can resist beautiful timid quite as cheesy but I still have my issues with that and I do love the markets it's based on the modern love column that's reoccurring in The New York Asia I think got his start almost got his start Article Erica Smith says the following regarding Timmy's curls those girls are getting their eight hours of sleep confronted not not my thing so this article is called eye to leave my fiance for Dev Patel by Judas Sin Kurtz who else what it became and when I was in New York I mentioned that I could see timmy taking the path of Elijah Wood and Elena was horrified I woke up at three thirty a m just hysterically laughing over how we got so drunk from three to six PM on a Sunday and mind you the rest of the place not the ones with the cute sweet girls in the Batik shirt but like just me taking weird self fees and making Rick Martinez pose with his manicure I mean just awful on yeah I can tell just from the caller that's how much fan girl guys I saw the little tied I and I knew it was a bona petite shirt I encourage her to take off her little sweater and had that Volta do although I definitely did smell another killian sent that smelled like marshmallows so I thought I was smelling the one she used but I might have been wrong because in this article meditating drastically cutting down on daily screen time Andrea leader of room temperature water out of a photogenic glass vessel every single morning and with that I agree media stuff but it just felt like a really weird portrayal of bipolar disorder to me and correct me if I'm wrong I just thought it didn't do a great job of safe boop moving on we tried honest secret perfume by Kathleen Howell guys let's get to the main point of this article it's talking about Laura dern a big little lies biggest star and how she gently tussled household they say it has like an insane weightless it sold out everywhere so I don't know unless that random Miami Sephora just did happen to have it in stock 'cause I swear so I love him and I disagree with on this as usual but I like again I just really wanted to bring this up because I would love your thoughts on modern lob I thought the I have been totally responsible Friday night in New York Saturday night New York Ho this girl was how did together Sunday afternoon I lose my shit we I'm trying to think has come full circle remember when we talked about a smell back in an early episode will now the cut has officially done an investigation the one I was Shalam as hair so it says falling genteel shoulder touch she reached her right hand just a smidge higher and nestled into Timo Taes crawls people try it out including two of my favorite ladies of this art of this podcast Erica Smith and send Jettison Kurtz but first up we have Karenzi could he's GonNa be the man of the moment for at least a year to come again not trying to make this a timmy Shalam Fan podcast but that would that really be the worst thing if that's jazz aerosmith encourages us to set this as our background glue it to our vision board an I just WanNa say thank you Erica this is exactly the mantra I need in my kind of to heart wrenching we sad for

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Oprah rebranded, you can too

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September eighth nineteen eighty six. Thirty two year. Old oprah winfrey stepped in front of the camera to host the very first episode of the oprah show twenty five years and four thousand five hundred sixty one episodes later the oprah show and become the highest rated daytime talk show in american television history and its creator had become an absolute cultural icon. The queen of all media america's first black multi-billionaire recipient of the presidential medal of freedom. Her once in a generation personality made her enduring figure in almost every american living room it also paved the way for several successful business ventures arguably the most notable was the oprah magazine. A monthly mag founded by oprah and hearst which at its peak had more than two point seven million paid subscribers as oprah enter team saw the tide's changing in media and the structural shift from print to digital occurring oprah magazine launched its website oprah mag dot com in two thousand eighteen then in yet another large shift in strategy as the media industry changed rapidly and consumer tastes shifted oprah magazine and oprah mag dot com relaunched under the name oprah daily in an effort to make oprah's media presence digital i rather than print first when you think about it. That's a massive endeavor. A rebrand centred around one of the biggest media personalities in history. So i wanted to talk to the person behind that. Transformation arianna davis. She's the senior director of editorial strategy at oprah daily and has been a driving force for oprah's media companies. Move to digital arianna. Thanks for joining business casual. Thank you for having him so excited to be here so just to start us off. Tell me how you ended up being the person to shepherd the massive brand that is oprah editor publications through. This transition story does that. I basically began my career at oprah magazine right after college. I was interning in new york. The new york daily news internet early over magazine began and so i decided i grew up. I grew up at. Oh i my first. Six years there. I was an intern at that. I was the kings assistant for many years. And then i was a culture editor and after being there for about six years that was when i left to go to work to us weekly and later refinery twenty nine and then in two thousand eighteen when hearst decided that they were going to launch a website for the oprah magazine given that i had as i mentioned grew up at. Oh just follow a really cool opportunity to come back kind of home and also apply all the things that i have learned at other places in my career to to be. Oh brand that. I love so much so i rejoined her twenty eighteen as digital director to launch the website. Back then and that was what i was doing for twenty eighteen After we launch overseeing all things aditorial for over dot com and then at the end of twenty twenty we decided that we wanted to evolve over. Mac dot com to daily which was going to be more of a multi-platform website for oprah magazine formerly oprah magazine now Daily just briefly. Can you give our listeners. The rundown of what you were trying to change with the rebrand from over mag dot com to oprah daily. I think the biggest difference between Dot com oprah mac dot com was kind of dislike a. It was basically like a website. That was jason the magazine. And you know. We kind of had the twenty years of the magazine. We had over mag dot com now over daily which is a more robust digital experience. So we're really leaning into being multiplatform. Meaning that we're going to have. Virtual events are also gonna really lead insert strategy in that were also expanding our presence on social media and that also is including insider are members only program so more content online in more places also really leaning into just trying to build this community for over insiders. Tell me what it was like helping to shepherd. The oh brand from a print dominant media asset one that had a massive readership like i think at the peak of the publication was like two point five million in print circulation as you saw just this broader trend in media. And you had to help shepherd the brand into digital talk through what that process was like. It was a challenge. The print magazine has disagree reputation for beautiful beautifully curated. Really in-depth content is the kind of magazine that you really wanna sit. Were bass like take your time. Go through the moving essays. Having a crier have good personal reflection that was with the magazine was really really known for and we knew that that was part of our goal was tied to bring as much as we online but it also was the end of the day. The internet is the internet and you know when it comes to getting reader's attention and building a new audience also being successful. We knew that we were going to have to branch out into other elements that maybe didn't do as much in the magazines. Things like celebrity news pop culture regular news also thinking about you know. Seo and how to do evergreen content e commerce there were so many elements that were brand new and we were trying to think about how can maintain the editorial standards of the magazine. The editorial standards of oprah in that really media beautiful kind of content while also very very quickly building a digital audience started zero. You started at zero users and for me. The thing that i did that was the most helpful which is thinking about who we wanted the digital reader to be in how that reader might be a bit different than the print magazines reader. So for me. I stole as the from helen. Gurley brown. Who is the former editor of cosmo back in the day. And i remember reading one of her her biographies where she talked about. How they treated the cosmic reader like a person and she had a name and they had a whole profile who she was and i thought about that for for so i came up with this character named janet who are reader and it was very much like. Who do we think janet is held. Think she is do. We think that she's the same age as the magazine reader. do we think she's a bit younger also. Make sure that we're including janet's younger cousin who is probably coming to us on instagram. Just thinking about it as a real person and what this person would be into and then as we started to actually get the state live and see what was performing. What wasn't ocean's really learning about her as we went. That was really helpful tool. I think in just kind of thinking about how to create something for actual reader so just a little bit deeper into the strategy right after you launched over mag dot com minor. Standing is within a year and a half. Say gutted ten million unique over the course of a month which is just for for context. That's shit tunnel traffic for any website but in that period of time is pretty remarkable and so one of the things that i'm trying to understand is like oftentimes when people target audiences with new content or new websites they do so in a very contained way with a very specific audience. They start because it's very clear. What is the content. You're going to serve the audience. Because it's super specific. Was something like oprah and oprah mag given. The audience was already at scale given the credibility that oprah and had built up over decades. How did you think about maintaining focus. Wall being ambitious with growing the site. Like how were you able to execute on the web presence with not diluting kind of like the essence of the brand. Like what were your north stars for. Having clarity and focus on the content you are creating honestly And it's still thinking about. Janet was really helpful and narrowing our focus. Can't we know. Like if i read our is janet and she. Let's say is forty four and she's coming to us from a break for a break from her regular light. She's not coming here for parenting advice. She's coming to us for what is known for which is like content. That will help or inspired her to live her. Best lines so thinking about janet and then also thinking about oprah. It was like okay. This is an interesting story for the internet in are probably do well but will the story actually inspire our reader to live her best life. So i think for me. The north star was definitely just keeping that in mind thinking about like. 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It's it's really interesting because to your point obviously oprah's not writing everything but it is still so inextricably linked with her identity. So one thing i'd be interested to know is how you think about building a connection between the audience and oprah especially for younger audiences where maybe they didn't grow up watching the oprah winfrey show. Yeah i think the greatest example about is our instagram. I think that was a way where we we've seen a lot of engagement for people of all ages because that was a place. Where even if you don't really know who says you don't really know much about her. I think social media is the number one place where you can really see this like sensibility. This idea of living your best. Life is something that oprah started out more than twenty years ago. Back with the oprah winfrey show this idea of self care of putting yourself first of living your best life. Those are all principles. An of the okra sensibility. That she's been talking about for years and years and years. So even if you don't necessarily not oprah you don't you're not necessarily a super fantasies content that you're going to relate su if you're one of the millions of young people who are using social media to talk about these things thinking about again i think especially in the entertainment rahm even like you know. Maybe shows are celebrities that in the print magazine. We may have been like. We don't know if our audience knows but online we have a little bit more room to play into experiment in nc. Like look this shower. This or this story is doing truly welfare us and it just goes to show that like we can skew a little bit younger so basically last year. After after twenty years of the magazine oprah someone who loves adversaries and she loves milestones and so. She was like the twentieth year of the magazine. I want to continue to evolve the brand the calcutta digging even deeper digitally at really focused on digital and that was when she made the decision that we wanted to make the magazine quarterly and really focus on like evolving digitally and renaming. The brand therefore to daily in the thinking was kinda like now that. We're you know we're no longer going to have the magazine hats when we break even more of the magazines former sensibility to online. Oprah's really excited about it. She wants to be way more involved now in digital she recognizes that. Like digital's where it's at in my role nasr's tiny aloft even more into like working closely with her on the on. The new site ends the new vision and also continuing to make sure that the brand is always evolving in grammy. And so just to get a better sense of like clearly. It sounds like this move has put significantly more emphasis on digital than ever before. And that makes sense intuitively where the world is going and how people consume content. But just tell me more about like why this timing made sense for a pretty substantial move to a publication that's been around for decades. Yeah you know. Listen oprah's incredibly smart. She businesswoman. She knows she also someone who loves. Even we saw with the oprah winfrey show. She likes to for something to end when it's on top and so the magazine was still doing well but just like everything magazine not wasn't necessarily the same a circulation as taytay something. I think that she been thinking for some time to be honest and she seen for some time. Digital is is the way that things are going and also she said it plenty of time. She also was like. I've been on the cover every single month. For twelve twelve times a year for twenty years inside the i think it was a combination of like getting a little bit of fatigue with the cover she was also realizing at some point or another the Digital happen in also realizing the anniversary it just felt like it kind of was like just the right moment in the right time. And so you know after that that first conversation where you know. You're talking with oprah oprah's like it's the twentieth anniversary of over magazine. What's what is next for this brand. And it became clear that a more emphasis on digital a new magazine that was quarterly. Like that was the direction. What was the process. Like of making that transition. I think it was a lot of just figuring out you know what our biggest goals. Obviously there was a lot of those where business wise so just really leaning into e commerce and in addition ecommerce one of the big things that we wanted you also launched a members only offering. So i think that's another big direction that a lot of media companies are going is membership programs As a way to you know we're not we no longer have a print subscription so what is another way to have that subscription model and we not have a paywall on oprah daily and then there's also certain stories that are just for members only so that was a big piece of evolution also was like what can we offer for members. Only that remembers that they feel like they're getting you know what they're paying for that they're getting continents both oprah content but also other lifestyle and service stories. They feel like make them like they're part of something. And how can we expand that to also be you know events in virtual experiences and that was a big piece of what we also started to think about as well so i think with the with the initial conversations it was kind of just thinking about academy has robust digital experience. How can we expand upon that. Can we then About members only experience and then what are the other things that we can really lean into the Over also feel like they're different than everything else that's out there on a totally and you know just referring back to your experience in launching over mag dot com when you joined in that kind of being like you described as startup Within a larger company. Is there anything you learn from the process of building out an online presence from scratch that you think made you better the second time around at going through this fall rebrand i would say what i've learned is definitely i think the more specific the better the more you can lead into a niche in the more that you can not try to be just like generalists in any field that you're anamour like focused on what makes your site in your identity different bat that makes up the first time around. It was like traffic numbers thousand. We're going after. So as i mentioned we're we're just throwing things at the wall versus now with over daily over jelly dot com. We really want it to feel a little bit more narrow and specific we wanted to really feel like oprah is present. So it's it's so you know we're still lifestyle cited network covering everything from entertainment and news two features of personal essays. And things like that but oprah. We want her presence to feel more there because it really was that way with the print magazine in so we are being a little bit more narrow with our focus and that might mean that were maybe not necessarily going to have as wide traffic pool. But i think that that's one thing that i think is really important in this day and age especially when you have a site that's tied to specific personality. Is i think that yes you can hit. You can hit twenty nine years among by doing all the different things but if you really want to have an experienced lassen that's going to really grow like really engaged. Audience is going to keep following you. What's really important. I think is really just narrowing in on. What is your contact focused on. What can you bring to the table. That's different than what everyone else is doing. In so even like literally this morning. You're in a meeting. We're talking about you. Know how janet has evolved in receiving more specifically about. Oh for our first two and a half years. Supermac dot com. We were covering you know. Just like everything. We're just trying to really like up our traffic. But now we're like does it really need this roundup of spring dresses or do you specifically want to do like plus size dresses because we really know that like that specifically is something that are unanswered. Really needs that. We uniquely could bring to the table or do. We think that she's really gonna be watching this leg random. Why shower should be sick to arlene of light. You know more inspirational content. That was like feels more like what we're hoping to try to evolve the safe to be. So it's it's thinking about like now we've seen what sticks in the wall and now it's actually the why it's like okay but like from a brand perspective of who we really want this brand to be. What can we remove from there. Even if it means we lose a little bit of traffic. And i think with this second round over daily just the fact that like you know there was a show on amazon. Came out the underground railroad that. Oh bro watch screeners avenue. It was literally obsessed with. She's calling us all hours like really wanted. Support the show. What can we do. So we did a series of interviews with her in the cast just zoom interviews and so instead of just doing like you know a bunch of explainers on the show calling a day. We have really specific oprah content. that were. She's like getting on review. She's interviewing barry jenkins and you know it made that kind of content. That is all over the internet. More specifically oprah daily because she was involved in that you also alluded to this but like every media company on planet. Earth feels like it's launching some form of paid subscription. Now whether that's in the form of literally creating a a metered paywall just some paywall or a membership program. How did you think through what was including the membership. And whether it'd be worth people's money. I mean to be totally frank with you and that's something i think so every single day we're thinking about i think we we've thought about it in a few different elements. I think that the one thing. Obviously we knew that was at the center of this was oprah. Obviously you know anyone who's going to be paying money to be a member of something related to oprah is going to be an over superfan so we definitely want to make sure that the number one thing we thought of was you know over giving the real behind the scenes to her life but also her signature was damaged and that's the only readers will get so one of the things that i loved the most that we're doing that every sunday for members only Doing video where she sets an intention for the week and so like this week. The intention with the up for the week was refreshed. There was one four contracts. There was one for mother's day and so every sunday only remember you get access to this video ensue over just sharing like here's how this week you can inject more sincere life. We also did a fun story about oprah's bathtub in hawaii in how that's her sanctuary in high. Recreate your own version. No matter where you are so there's definitely a lot of open the anchor we also wanna be thinking about. What are the unique stories. What looks the service that we can offering for. Anyone who's in oprah insiders so making sure that they are getting they feel they're getting service in lifestyle advice that it's just for them so we have a few different series that we are doing just uniquely for that but i think that the other big thing that will hopefully take off even more after the pandemic is also events so zappa combination of like yes exclusive content but also like events. You're you also get the quarterly. She'll so just thinking about like how can offer not just like stories but also make sure that really feels like a multi-platform experience that you really feel like you are oprah inside your love that i think it sounds like just a combination of the history of the site now and understanding what works slash also just with this rebrand and wanting to be a little bit more niche and intentional with the audience that there's just a bit more nuance as you think through the content strategy. And what is this stuff you create. Yeah you said. The magic word oprah word is intention. I use it all the time in our meetings. Because she used she talks about. How the oprah winfrey show. She would ask them producer succumbing to meetings and it was like they just pitch idea they had to they have to pitch an idea and then say what their intention was with the idea. For the oprah winfrey show audience in that something that we're doing a lot more but the state. We were always intentional. 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When she came up on the oprah winfrey show the fact that she was a plus sized black woman who said it was on national television. I think was surprising but also refreshing and i think that people always me. They're like issue really like she is on tv. And i'm like yes she is like. That's i think one of the things that i've learned from working for her is that she is very much hermosa. Authentic self is in so the obesity on tv over. You read an oprah magazine for that you know isn't meetings is the exact same person and i think that that's what attracts people to hers. They can tell it. There's no bullshit there. And i think that is what also is inspiring people whether it's through the website. Or whether it's through the oprah winfrey show. it's that you know she is who she is inciting. She therefore inspires you even if you don't know who you are. Okay let's figure out who you are and what your purposes so that you can live your best life but also your most authentic life. And i think that that's something that you know it can't be faked. It can't be just created i keep it. That's a big reason. Why whether it's through business or it's through just her. Fandom people really connect with her because you know over someone who definitely has crossed out of race and class in all these other things through her may products through the years. And i think that that's really the reason is because she just issue who she is and she's her most authentic and i think also just in the age of social media in in kind of a context that people probably push more than ever before to be authentic that authenticity continues to be just an amazing competitive advantage. I want to ask you one more question. So i'm morning brew. Were building out like business media for our generation something we that's our strategy is launching new letters podcast video shows with personalities at the forefront and there's no personality that is bigger on planet earth then oprah and personality driven media is both an amazing thing but also it can be a risky thing. It can be a risky thing in the context of a media business because you can possibly lose talent. Or if their poached to another place. But it's an amazing thing because people attract people people resonate with people. And when you think about the future of oprah daily how do you think about mean. -taining the connection to oprah that so many of the people that land on your site or unsocial fiend for but also maintain enough distinction such that at some point in the future when oprah decides. She wants to retire or do something else which is a a feasability for any human being. How do you reconcile that balance. That's a great question. And i think that i think that's something i think about a lot. Not even just look for when she retires even like you know. I'm always hesitant just from over right now. Is involved in super invested. But i also know that like it's Pandemic to she's home and she has a little bit more time like once life gets back to normal. Eventually i know you know. She has so many products that she's working on. You may not always be able to be as available to be like the anchor of the of the sites. I think a lot about like okay. We have right now but what about when we don't so i think that what's really key in 'em what's really important in this kind of goes back to what i was talking about having a narrow narrow focus and also leading into like what your needs and i think that for us this idea like don't just live your best life but live at well. Live it authentically. That's that's really the core and that's really. What is key to this brandon adding to it. And it's why everyone has connected with oprah in her magazine and author many projects over the years. I think for me. It's really how we can continue to lead into that even if oprah's not involved even if it's just an ethnic from a mom who has been really struggling through the pandemic core even if it's just like you know i'm really stressed about the world going back to normal like can a luma best life or maybe it's like i just really wanna find the best sneakers right now. Like i don't really know where to start because there's so many places to shop on the internet like all those stories. I think there is a way for us to really do through this lens of like how to live your best life in how to make sure you're being authentic to you and helping you find your bestself. I think is as long as we continue to lean into that and to really make that the core of our brand whether or not involved official whether or not necessarily the face. I think that's really the key is like just finding that relying in that that mission that really makes you different than like any other site out there that might just be doing generalists. Content oriented davis you so much for joining. The show is super interesting to hear about the evolution of oprah magazine to oprah mag dot com to oprah daily. So thanks so much for your time and your insight as honest answer having me. It was joy joining morning. Grew and i can't wait to listen to the next few pacifists by the way in addition to handling a massive rebrand for oprah arianna is also an author. Her new book is called. what would free to do. A guide to living boldly can check it out in the show notes for the episode. Business casual has produced an engineered by daniel marcus. Our researcher is bella hutchins. Our newsletter is written by hand. Doyle sarah singer is our executive producer. And i'm your host. Alex lieberman if you liked the show. 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Gun and Gear Review Podcast Episode 330  Freedom Q & A show

Gun & Gear Review Podcast

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Gun and Gear Review Podcast Episode 330 Freedom Q & A show

"The firearms radio. Network provides the bandwidth for this edition of the firearms, insider gun and gear podcast. In a world. dominated. Gun funnies and bad mation. Strives to bring you? What you need here. They don't care about your feelings. They don't really care what you think. Join these men on their quest. To, bring you the good the bad. And the ugly that the firearms. Industry has to offer. Welcome to the firearms. Insider Gary View podcast episode three, hundred thirty on this show showcase interviews, gear, and anything else again enthusiast, maybe looking for we strive to evaluate products from unbiased and honest perspective I'm your host Chad Wallace? And this is the QNA freedom episode with me. Tonight are Tony Rob and Zane We'll go through. What'd you guys do in firearms I will I will say I. Did absolutely nothing? Yeah, that's what I did. So you. Guys are up, nate. Go ahead, rob. I was GONNA say I did I didn't do anything gun wise I did something of immediately do for the last I don't know eight months since I took math class last year I went ahead and typed up the notes from that class and to legal pads, turned into thirty seven pages of typed up notes. Yeah, that does not surprise me. No, so yes, but the whole weekend type. It's not a very fast typist. I'm very slow typist. So. Dane I did a range maintenance. I mowed my gun. Range fixed and target stands that all that did shoot a little bit. Took some I mean I'm not GonNa go to range, not take in. Did a little bit of shooting, but I mean it's been between ninety eight and one hundred two degrees every day down here, so just don't want to go rain too hot, but yeah. Got Some cool stuff into that I'm not GonNa talk about the area. I got some fun toys. Nice Nice tone up at the Rangers are going to be packed this weekend. Yeah, probably are One thing I got I announced in made a video about the giveaway. We're going to have what high point hightower armory for Adrian's. That was cold. Some people joined up when they sought of. It's awesome. Join a Patriot I'm going to have a lot of other stuff to give away. The require Shell also got really cool book. Coming up are fifteen book signed by Larry. Vickers I gotTa Limited Edition, so get in on atrial. Be Given that away soon to and I had my first rains day. Dude, since cove it. Yeah Man Nick. Juan my cigar dealer. My Cigar Pusher, but he gave me some fairly cold cigars while there is out there, but he said up with New Jersey gun forums and we went out shooting Claes so of course I? Grab some clays. I grabbed two boxes because he said they might be short. And you know because people always want to Bang Bang, but they don't WanNa bring bring so I took out. Two boxes of Claes grabbed my home defense shotgun. Shotgun carried it according to New Jersey. State Law because I wanted to see how good I am with that the first couple shots. You know what I'm saying like coast colborn. Let's get out there. Pull Bang Melded Dude I to nailed the miss. One racket caught it before it hit, the ground emptied I had won miss out of five rounds I was like I. Co- and it wasn't the first one Nice Nice, very nice. Shot of Anneli. Friend of mine's Bonelli owed is so sweet. I was like could I enjoy my ninety nine dollars shotgun a little more before you give me. Two Thousand Dollars Shotgun, you jerk. was. I think it was eventually. I got super supervisor. Those are nice might have been I. Don't know which one it was I didn't really look because I was just having fun, and then I realized. It's hot as hell and. Then I shot his eight seventy I think it might have been a police or something like that. It was really cool. those are Nice, had rifle sights on it, which was hilarious because I was able to nail three, no three in a row. Miss twice because I started using the sites. Like son of a gun. Shot Gunning. I tell you. Don't work well on glazed. Norm you actually have to ignore the rifle sights and use a frigging top of the fire on, but I love to go him I. Tell You I've got a bit the Benelli Super Ninety, which is the shot Gandhi switch from some to pump, and I bought it just because I was stupid anyways. I took it to a classroom of Trenton range and they. You can't go shoot craft with that riot gun. Okay? Bang Bang Bang Bang can't shoot him. Now shot trap guns in. Yeah, for special piece of equipment is awesome, but if I'm not going to dedicate that much time to it, why would I do that? Because people that do that? Going spent five grand for an over under gun, and they do all this other stuff and it's like okay whatever? The thing is is if they enjoy it. It's just like going and shooting. Can't we can't call them? Elmer fudd anymore because homer no longer has a shotgun. He's GonNa site. But no, my whole thing is, it's cool. This is your sport, but I don't need that particular high end equipment to actually play the sport agile so. Fun doing it. It's like every time I went to an ID US PSA match. Your most people walk in there with two thousand dollar pistols, and all this gear and craft and I walk in there with especially the. Walk in here with just my regular carry. Holsters and I'm like I've got my I carry my magazine so carrying them cargo pants. I use that as a way to as a test bed. Yeah, exactly which it works, but anyways. We're getting way off topic. Okay well. We'll get into the announcements and then the good stuff. You can go to the gun and gear dot com pledge your support. There are one five fifteen twenty five dollar levels awesome for those people that are supporting us. Bandwidth sponsors Patriot Patrico on the patch of for July is the tree of liberty water with the blood of Patriots and tyrants best every hundred years. It's pretty cool that probably shipping. For this time I know I mean. It's like it's like those guys over there, not knowing what's going on. But so there is that if you're shopping Amazon of course, please use the fires radio DOT TV Slash Amazon affiliate link. We also have affiliate links for matador arms and a men, too, so those are on our website. If you want to click through them and use them, we would appreciate it and now the most important thing of the evening. We'll be getting into some legal questions and some. You know. Stop the get us into trouble here we got. US opinions expressed in this podcast or those of the Individual Co hosts and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Firearms Radio Network or their employers. This is not legal advice, nor should it be considered a such viewer discretion is advised. This is especially true on live shows in guys. We're not lawyers and we hate Holiday Inn Express so take for that exactly so onto the questions. Questions I th the first two or from cult members, so I threw him in here. Yeah, I mean hey might as well put him. I I mean they're pretty simple. will who I would like to also say that for anybody that probably knows or doesn't had a him, and his wife just had a new baby, so in congratulations to them or not congratulations once they turn seventeen. It's girl. You'd better you'll be now. I can't remember, but he said as a quick question. It's his question is what is your favorite cartridge or load that means like if you reload or your favorite cartridge caliber kind of all of those things. About to go, we let shooting. Joe Leave it alone. You gotTA. Really be careful with us. It's Kinda. Say whatever I'm shooting at the moment, yeah! Normally my carry m nine millimeter just because. How round per capacity and it's got a decent amount of power, and it's got good rounds and Erga loads right? You're good defensive AMMO. You know just because commonality. Yeah I actually went a little farther I actually put it in just because I know I know wills a handler and does a lot of cartridge development. Oh No, no, no I wouldn't shoot anything. I'd hand. But I I put in here my favorite probably load that I have is for to forty three winchester. It's a seventy green ballistic dip and basically it gets. It's good for Lightbulb Buck in the wind it explosive on environments. And I think out of my Gannett's doing like thirty, three, hundred eighty per second. So you can imagine I think it's got. Forty inches of drop at like six hundred yards or something, but still it it's got a good ballistic coefficient for that bullet in yet annihilates varmints, so that's probably why it's my favorite. I'm not set up for hand, loading or reloading or any of that kind of stuff, but. Yeah other than that. I would go with common calibers to twenty nine millimeter three zero eight. Just because they're inexpensive I still do like the twenty two long rifles because they're cheap unlike Zane. Zane, do you have anything favorite or not? Here? beauts? Aim took a hike or something I. Don't Know Yeah I. Favor load reduced recall nine millimeter. A lot back remember. ANYTHING MINUS MINUS MINUS. Since probably doesn't know ease music and can't take it off or I have no idea what's going. Problems all right, go ahead and say mind. I'm almost I'm almost like rob whatever I'm shooting night Gig at the time, but I was really really put some thought in it. Like what do I enjoy shooting the most, and it really comes down to accuracy and my ability financially to replace what I'm shooting and I'm digging. Twenty. Two long rifle was one of the things I like only because it can be really accurate or depending on what you buy or could be a blinker load, and it also depends on what you shoot out of you. Know what you shoot it out, so my Moya accurate rifles I just love shooting tiny groups and relaxing doing the breathing exercises. And twenty two allows me to do all that without the distraction, because all I'm doing is trying to shoot precise groups, so I think my favorite overall is twenty two, but I did everything I got my own. Zane your back then back. Little Issue I wish I could remember the low data from my twelve gauge route. I used to load back when twelve gauge is. kind of hard to find, so I got into reloading, but it can't, but it was like an out. An ounce an eighth of number nine, and it was loaded really hot I had. Powder what I used. It was on a AA winchester, but I can't remember I. Haven't reloaded in ten years but my favorite. My favorite cartridge to shoot is. American Eagle Federal American Eagle hundred forty seven grain mill. It's just it's so close to my Carolina and it's fairly cheap. When? I blaze through cases. Yeah I couldn't find it. Last time I had to go with the Blazer which I like is not bad I just prefer shutting one forty-seven because that's my Yes, my carry Mo.. Stacey when novelist shooting red dots, you can be a lot more precise, yeah. And it helps. Yeah so I. Guess we'll go onto number here. this is from Nikko It's kind of for all US individually, but I said I'd like to know if you guys have a specific procedure for doing reviews and what goes into a typical review. And I will mention that you know we do have our kind of format that we use that for the reviews, but the general written part is pretty much up to the person reviewing the thing like for me. If it's a product that somebody has supplied to us, I usually say hey, give give me at least three months to you know. Get it to the range. Use it enough stuff like that. If it's a barrel, always throw in some sort of accuracy testing. I as you guys know, I like to run stuff in some sort of competition, if I can, because, everything always breaks on me their. Stuff like that, so you know stress testing it. Basically but you wouldn't. You could do the same thing at a range, but for some reason it's it does put more stress on it, and so that's what I like to do. Yeah, I'm similar. in to where I try to take between three and six months to do review. I don't like to just crank them out. Quick because you miss things when you do that right? I don't have a procedural things like if you watch the state's economics channel and you know he's going to do five and around burned-out. At shoulder height every five hundred. Brown's and he's going to be to a you know what's going to happen. I don't go to that extent because I'm reading so much different things, but if it's anything that has to do with ABC, I will incorporate into my everyday. Carry you hand to my personal practice and training, and I try to take a class with the stuff into by Cam, because like competition you will start to see your deficiencies in your year in classes, and your personal deficiencies yeah! Well? There's there's too many of those to talk about. Yeah, mentioned those yet. I think we're all pretty much about the same lake. Chad said I mean I. Do the same thing I get it for us. Open the box. Go when I get it in there. Yeah exactly and then go through everything. And I try to see if I can break it before I use it. I've done that, too. That the other thing, too is like Ro. Roberson I actually when I I get product I actually take a bunch of pictures of it before. It's even used so I could have decent pictures. Me I want to show you what it looks like. After I've had time the trash. Birth every review I've written for the channel I. Hate the way I write my reviews. Hey, you know, I hate mine, too, but it's not that we hate them. It's just a professional writers, so I feel like I'm missing something or Wish teacher from the ninth grade. Be like. Why did you use that language? That is not. That's not even English. I probably do less written reviews. Anybody here I definitely do less red interviews than anybody, but I do reviews on the second is for everyone podcast every show, almost but I like putting lots of rounds through stuff. I like using actually using my gear in telling you what I did. I really despise the people that call something to review when they open the box and they start talking about it. That's not a review That's what we do in the second part about show, which is product spotlight exactly? Exactly so I don't dig that. Like. I did the S. K. S. review on the last show. Dude had to ask for years, and probably like three or four thousand rounds through but I gave your view I got to high point coming up. That's been through not only demand challenges me shooting it for the heck of it, and also diversity shoots so I have lots of people shoot guy so I I'd like actual people that put rounds down range, and it can actually give me good information. Sorry TV's actually resume saying some of your favorite youtube channels pretty much do a pay commercial end. They shoot on around I'm still trying to figure out how you can put at the end of the day after everything. And I'm smoking my father's cigars. Madore oh. Daloa something. I don't know can read this, but I took a picture of Al. I'll probably posted on. My social media tomorrow with the heck. Cigars are. Asking the chat if people want people who are listening. That's why that's why. I don't. Just lose my mind. I was on. We liked smoking and. We like shooting. Hey, we like shooting. We'd like smoking. We like anything you know. Kill you. All about the ATF, alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms just not the. Organization it's explosives now. Here's the great thing. Three verse three out of four from the south, and that's what we do a cookout anyway. Hey and Amy Cook Canto somebody rips a string of. M. Eighties. In the in the barbecue pit. Now okay, so next. Question's from Brian are now this one. I'm sure Zane will will give us get info, but all of us probably will says. Why do people say to only have factory magazines for Kerry serious duty? I liked it. I can buy to bag pull glock bags for the price of one factory. Glock, magazine, but nearly everyone advises against it I don't quite get it since the P MAG is used by the military and I. Don't think meg polling releases. Crappy products certainly don't write. Back Pool every. Third Party magazines made crap right well. Okay, so mag pool had issues with the original nine millimeter. They did he did the right? Amount was like Yo. We screwed up we're that's our bad like unlike a lot of companies and so respect for that now the gun comes with two or sometimes three so I typically use the OEM WANNA carry I will say I have think eight or ten Mag Pool A GLOCK PEMEX and I've only had one malfunction ever, and I've run them through all three today classes now at this point so I'm to the point where I would almost trust the the Glock mags. mags from MAG pool for Kerry, and the only issue. I had them pretty sure shooter in actually had the gun locked back when they were still rounds in and I. Honestly Think I. bumped the slide. Stop with my support CNN, I'm Kinda with you guys and I could care less about using factory magazines, but I'm going to run any magazine I have enough like you with the Mega Mega. I've been running. Meg Meg for Glock megs and hadn't hadn't had any problems now. Do have not yet. HAVE ATS MAGAZINE! I. Do have some problems with those, but I don't, but it's not i. don't carry those it's. It's make sure and run enough rounds through the magazine that you're sure that it's a reliable magazine. No matter about the brand sheep Korean magazines from my glock seventeen many years ago. How could not get one magazine? The cycle five Brown. Here's my shocked face. The Promo. That's ten bucks for magazine. Yeah. It's great. I'm just took it to the range testimony out before I actually carry them. Now for for P. for five, five six. I like Pemex better than than. I do too I. Can. Go back on the history. One Block mags from back because my hands are so big on the Glock nineteen, I have the pinky swinging. Most people have on twenty six magpie gives me that little bit of own. Give them a pinky on it. When I'm using my Glock nineteen, these are my carry. Maggs, yes, because I live in. Jersey and I'm stuck with ten rounds, so I got reload and that carry them just like I did in. In my classes which is pocket, I did the fifteen rounders because I took. My last dedicated is class would pinkus, and I was able to run my fifteen round MAG poll, Glock, Max, so I've never had a problem reason historically that that it kind of sucked because aftermarket bags used to be horrible, but now we have checkmate, and now we have Mac Dr, and they just make great stuff, and so of course I think. I believe. In my car I believe Bekker's in Oem for many manufacturers. Especially European. One thing I really like about the Pemex is that you know when they're no good anymore? Because the feed lips breaks. Then! It doesn't ship like nine hundred eleven mags, or you know or any steel mag, or like the aluminum, gi. Eggs win the feed lips. been you start getting functions you don't. Let me with the polymer mags. It's when it's no good anymore, and then you throw it away. But let me talk about also thing like this. If you have something that's already established Beretta's bread, ninety tunes CC's. There's enough information out there with some of the more mature designs. Nine hundred eleven that people know the mags you get you know you get the Wilson Combat. megs for and the chip McCormick Max for Nineteen Eleven the information is out there now that WHO's really dependable and who? You can actually go, okay. I'm not going to be putting five thousand rounds through this before I decide, it's my carry Mag, but you find people you can trust in you find multiple sources of regular dudes, and some of the more known people and find out what they use in us that. That is still only Gary. Oem Glock mags only because I have twelve, so why not just use them? Because I mean I was collecting those before magpie came out with their before mag full came out with. In, my opinion were no other. Know. So I was collecting thirty dollars Glock next. We're still substantially cheaper than. Their fees exactly. Yup. So I'm going to read these next questions. Guys and I'M GONNA bow out on this one. Because you guys would way more I I have I have a super simple answer, and then you guys can go to town this I combine them once from Colin s says where's the best place to find training classes? What is the most important thing to look for in training instructor class, and what are some things to avoid and then David Peas says where's the best place to find firearms training reviews? Is there a good place to see honest breakdown of classes around the country that have been reviewed and Mike Quick answers are we have some podcasts on the network. We have the after action project and also civilian carrier radio is really good. They have really good people on there. And that's but as otherwise I'll throw it to all you guys for answers just because you're more versed in that particular department I mean I. Think the first thing you gotta determines. What do you want to training for? You WanNa get Defensive Training Handgun training. You WanNa get rifle training. You want to get shot training. You know, find what you want to get trained on, and then start, you can start. Looking I would start with just local friends because I'm GONNA. Let you want to travel halfway across the country. Take a glass. There is a e mail subscription thing. I'm trying to find it where you can days once a week. They send you emails. Classes are going to be in your area. I cannot I. had it written down on for that to bring with me It's fairly decent. Zany think. Yeah, we'll give you homework assignment because you didn't do your homework assignment. From last week, he had helmet. Yeah, we'll give you homework assignment. Get it and we can drop into. Show US before they go on Friday. I would say I would say primary and secondary on their website has a training schedule of associated instructors, most of which I I would think pretty vetted and What is that one PODCAST Now John! That's another good one and then of course like like Chad said civilian Kiro Radio Moroccan crew. They're great job and they have. Trainers on there. It's not like you could just go. You could go back and listen to them all, but it's GonNa. Take some time. Also primary and secondary on their board when you go to their after action report. Board which is also on the website, you can click on and go their quickly you can get a run down of a lot of it, but let me go ahead and tell you it doesn't have to be a special forces commando that out. It doesn't have to be Leo a law enforcement. That's out depending on what you WANNA know and I'm not saying you just don't do it. I'm saying for the best that joke incoming. Bang for the buck. You can go with a locally known instructor to get the basics. Find out what you dig is probably going to be less expensive than the celebrity instructor, and and you'll find out what you like what you don't like. You'll talk to guys in class and they'll show you gear, and they'll also tell you who they've been to and I think that helps a lot. The ask us all also say with that as that local cheaper instructor you're GONNA WANNA ask that guy some questions, though because they are not all could equal now, so let's talk about some things to some red flags. Things Avoid if an instructor only has like one type of training, if everything he's telling you is all law enforced whereas all military, or it's all NRA credentials NRA this. I'm an NRA this someone like okay Dr Phil Attack. Well But trough that, but how many classes have you done with people that are outside of around like you've trained with with what? And Fit? She took a class to right, but now took things did Kosta. We took the class. Yeah, so it's like you know. There's nothing wrong with dues military guy I mean. Me and tell you. There's nothing wrong. I hold a law enforcement director certification, but. The another thing you want. When was the last time your instructor took a class? Because the last time he took, a class was in two, thousand and three I'm GonNa say pass. I i. just have to laugh. Because of what you feel is a long time ago. it's two thousand. Years! Yes. In two thousand and three. Perspective, we know. Jane's one hundred percent right be careful, veteran guys, and and there's GonNa. Be some trial and error, but also when you go into a training class, and this is after you get there, and it turns into story time all day long instead of teaching you stuff, need just wasted your money, feel matches personal, and if in a first thing out of the gate, there is not a medical and safety brief I would say leave at lunch and don't come back well, that depends on. Is it a classroom classroom as an extra range of rain, absolutely I even in a classroom setting I, mean I think most instructors worth their salt. Are GonNa Still Give You I? Mean? Mean even if it's these would accents are the fire alarm goes off. We're going to go like there should be a medical safety brief before everything every find, plus in my opinion and also let me go ahead and throw that out there as an NRA certified instructor and pretty much rifle pistol shotgun safety That's one of the basics men telling people what happens if the wheels fall off. How did they help? What's the phone number? Put it in. You know where you located. What's the actual address? All that stuff is very important. If they're leaving that off questionable questionable about anything else they do because that's the first thing you do and I feel NRA class. Their instruction module is really geared. You should really try that and don't look at that as well. I have a hunting license. Noman coded at basic safety class to brush up on stuff. It's local. It shouldn't cost much money and that gives you the fundamentals. Well hopefully, that's helping these guys out. Good information there so next up. We Have Ryan Be. What is the best method you found to adapt a standard? A ARE MAG well for use with pistol. MAG, which MAG will adapter meg conversion. Do you think is best? And then, what is the best shootings for introduce newer shooters, competition, shooting and Tony I'm you know I'm not gonNA argue meg eggs for matador arms is one of the better ones, and they have tons of different options for which magazines. You would like Glock if you want. I don't know what else they have season. They have. Got Some others to the only other one well, the only other one I would recommend would be the stern defense one and that's if you're on the Glock Mags, and they're both good quality. They both work well. It's just kind of which one do you magazines? Do you want to run? And how do you want to check the magazine O. N. P. Three Twenty mags also. Data. Now one hundred percent they sent this to me. The reason I'm telling you about. It is because this is the only one I've done because this is the first one I've done, but it was really easy. Really quick. It takes the mags either messing with her, since I got it Guinness soon as the range opens up, I think the gun is right there. You can't say it anyway, It's it's ready to go dude. I can't wait to get out and try this thing out and I'll let you guys know right away, but it was just so fast to. And like like I've had I've used the endo. megs I sent one for review I. Don't know if you guys remember and you know it's. It's weird. Training things to use something like that. Because the bolt stop in the magazine and you have to the X.. The ejector is on the magazine so in order to eject around out of the bowl. You have to have the magazine in and then lock the bolt back and then drop MAG. It's a little odd, so I'm I prefer the Bagwell's from like Matador, arms or stern defense and I think those are kind of out there. Everybody using dedicated lower next question's. Always well. That is you got some states where you can't get? Those are paying the, but because you got to go through all these hoops. Oh? I'm kidding. Experiences of the dedicated lower though. I forget spoiled. I'm living in Florida. So I can just give me a dedicated lower me. Did the other thing, he asked his best thing to introduce competition new shooters competition shooting. I I have to my personal opinion I have the. Room fire challenge because everybody likes to shoot a little faster, and then then steel challenge speed steal those type because you can use twenty twos, you can use handguns rifles, you know they have classes for all of those I now Zan's I i. will not his small-bore is. It's much slower methodical I so depending on the person. Yes small. I've never done it but I've heard great things about appleseed also. Competition. appleseed? Okay, but it's wonderful for getting your fundamentals down. I agree one hundred percent with steel challenge, because that's breaking out the twenty twos, and the reason I say because you get to manipulate it so if you have an ar that you're gonNA, run pickup either conversion kit for to pick up Smith. Wesson impe fifteen twenty to have all the controls where you need it, and you'll just confidently run it, but also local high DPA matches local va met Kerry Kerrigan and have some fun with it. Learning manipulated shoot at pickup tips from other people about. How does you faster more accurately? That's the place to go I. And US. PSA and I had more fun at a They call it the matches, which is basically you show up, run what you Brung. Rented how you bring it, so you'll see everybody carrying everything from twenty two to a three fifty seven forty four magnum inside the waistband outside the way span. You know it's however you wanNA shoot you know. He is the start slowly and not rush into like an action sport on because you, the fundamentals shooting fastest nothing more than fundamental quicker so if you're fundamentals aren't nailed down, which is why I say things like you know going apple or small bore. I mean the accent sports are been. Let me go ahead and throw that out there minimum challenges awesome and the reason we do it. It's based on. We want that to be. Sticking your toe in Bringing what you got, you know what I'm saying. bringing whatever you have, we do twenty twos. We do revolvers all that different dedicated times for that, and it's just guys or girls hanging out having fun very little pressure, but you do still have the pressure of time a timer and competition. Plugin for my My buddies over be eight developing group to. If you're looking at a way to dip win, it's kind of an online competition. He's got to submit a video submission of shooting drill of the month, and you can win patches and stuff so many ways out there. Oh, winchester marksmanship to through the NRA program. That's another male in kind of thing you can go at your own speed. It's still competition and again is dipping toe entered. There's no reason to jump in by hundreds of dollars, worth of gear and stuff like that and then try to participate in the competition. In, that's not necessary. Yeah, and I. Do know that depending on like Oh. What is it for H. If if it's a if it's a child so to speak our. Four H. has some really good teaching. Competition type stuff of course us. Old People can't do it, but. But yes there is that, too so the next question is a little bit different and I mean we kind of. Don't know all the things, but we'll throw it in there. It's from Jonathan V. it said. What would you not shoot through non-refundable Gun Muffler suppressor? Basically if you were to buy one, you know, they're not really refundable. home reload cast bullets, powder, coated bullets you know, and then he has other questions to. Let's. Part Right. I in in that case I would just shoot. I would I would if it's non serviceable, I would only shoe jacket bullets, but if it is serviceable meaning, you can take it apart, then she? She whatever you want through it. I mean. Shoot your own re loads. It's on you so I'd also make sure your barrel twist can sustain your bullet weight, so you don't get a keyhole on the muzzle. Yeah Yeah. You're using a wet suppressor. Don't use hall of points. because. They might get wet expand because they. Frozen? I can promise show it. Take a look at the whatever the manufacture sensor literature, because most manufacturers will not cover any kind of home loads Karan. and. They'll tell you what they'll cover. You know most of them a lot of them don't like cast bullets. They want you know jacket ammunition again. I would just just follow what the manufacturer says. 'CAUSE I run either full metal, jacket or Totem PM J. Through mine I have problems with them and just make sure and a lot of manufacturers will give you one free. oops, like silence her Co. we'll do that. Where if you blow up a suppressor back? I run in. Forty five through nine, and you tear it apart. They'll give you one free. Roam free repair, right. And you know even nowadays some of the ones that are serviceable they you can buy end cap, so if you like blast an end cap off or something, but you're baffles are still good. You can buy one, and it's not a wait time and another two hundred bucks. It's just because it's just an end cap, so there are look for stuff like that, too. If you're buying one now next one for a homemade suppressor. One and wait and wait and wait depending on the years aluminum or steel. He says it doesn't have machine gun and he doesn't. Sh- or shooting a thousand rounds plus a month. So why not aluminum well in my it? It kind of depends if it's for rifle I don't know if I would aluminum's GonNa, wear out. No matter what so I would go. Go with steeler, stainless, or some of the in canal, or you know something something with some more strengthen the aluminum if it's for rifle, if it's for a pistol, caliber aluminum all the way as my opinion, because you know. Hey, that's that's what I would do, and then also he says that if you were destroyed the one that you were the form one on It's registered and if a firearm, what are your options like to fix it well, my understanding is is you can't fix it yourself. Even though you're the manufacturer I don't know why it's something to do with four one, but of course we're not lawyers, so God, no, so I'm not going to. That's that was. That's my understanding, but then again. If you made a WHO knows, it's kind of like a because. A baffle is supposedly the suppressor. So that's I. Think why they want you to form, but I can't really tell you so I have no idea what I've learned from talking to other manufacturers as long as a serial number, sutton mucked up. They can rebuild it right, but if it's only one US at the manufacturer, why couldn't you rebuild it? For some reason I. my understanding is they. Won't you? Can't legally I? And I'M NOT GONNA. Argue that I, don't know. Yeah exactly so I I would fare on the caution side, contact the ATF and ask him. I mean if you really I don't. Know the answer to exactly Do you have a dog? That's a better question because if you don't have a dog, then you probably okay asking. That's awesome. Yeah, but. Now I have my I have a form one suppressor that I've built on us for my submachine and I mean you know, is oil candles? No, no, it's an actual built cab made K. Baffles and crews together, and that was because it's on some gun and I. You know shoot twenty two hundred a lot. Screws and you clean. It grew back together since the press, but it looks like the one from no country for old man. Does not. It looks Nice. Yeah, there's too yeah, yeah, now made on lane and everything so if that does or does not answer question next up, Alex is the question, says the consumer getting into a are tens. Should you go through winchester? For now as ammo is cheaper and more available rather than the six five creed more, which is more expensive and less available, my biggest concern is Ammo, availability and pricing. Also. What do you think about? Budget Ar Tans uppers made by stone or Bear Creek Arsenal. To that that's the thing I think's donor is a midway USA brand, so I would trust it a little more I. think than the Bear Creek Arsenal. Walk Mayor Ten is a Barnes position from Apex North Carolina and I love it to death but as far as six five and more I'd be more client six five in a bolt action rifle. I would actually. Depends on what barrel linked you're trying to run on to do with the gun, but what I would do, I would go with the three zero eight, because in these times. I think you might fare better finding three eight. Even though and personally any upper you could find right now is probably the one you should get because there's like hardly anything out there. The problem with a are tens is there isn't. A! SPEC. Really there's there's like two standards right. There's too, but none of them are like like with with. Have No SPEC and then you have companies that go below that and you have companies that go above that. They are tens like two different standards and you've got. You have all in within those standards. You have some other I i. write I write very careful going budget with with anything, but especially with a our tents are now see I have a different opinion, the only reason I have a different opinion this going. If you're looking for budget, they are tens man. You might as well go with real. Real Eight. If you're going to do that because you're not going to get that accuracy that supposedly six five creed more give you and you'll learn some stuff while you're doing that and you went budget so more than likely. I mean. You see what the market is like. Now you could probably sell it and not lose a lot of money on that a are ten in this timeframe. Point, so yeah, you can do it that way if you really serious about your precision, and if you're going to be reaching out well past six hundred yards with that, yes, six five is, it has less. Than three, week but ammo availability and everything is going to be better for a long time with three away compared to six point six five creed more because now they even changing it to sixth grade. I mean that that has moved along. You know what I'm saying, so the precision guys aren't even using exclusively six five creed morning. And six P. R. C. In six five. They've moved on yet. So the classic is there. It still works especially. If you're doing, you know what I'm just pulling six yards out as a thing that's easily evil with three eight, seven six two buffet. He want Gotcha. Gotcha so so here's one that we kind of answered, but not really. This is from cracker to seven on from instagram. He said it into us They're like he's one of the guys that how what did they do? They do the two seven seven Wolverine. He's one of those guys It says what is your favorite nine millimeter round that might get me to think about changing from my forty five and forty cal love. and. I think he means just like defensive ammo. I know we all have our kind of Preferences I. Mean I'm actually. I actually like the Gold Dots, the one twenty, one, thirty, five thousand one forty-sevens, one thirty fives they make are for specifically for short barrels, handguns like three inch, two and a half inch. That's just me I kind of like them I. Mean they all seem to work fairly close to the same in those higher ones that you know about like the the Federal What are they in this? He's yeah so I did a lot of research on this awhile back, and I looked at testing from the FBI Alex testing from Dr, Gary Roberts and from Lucky Governor and from what I can tell from all the testing I saw. There's more variant in different rounds of the same caliber, and there isn't variants from the same round of different caliber, so you're shooting. A Hundred Fifteen Walmart branded you know hollow point versus hundred forty seven grain H. S. T. there is more. More variance in those years between hundred forty seven grain, T and two hundred and thirty grain H. T. in forty five right, so which is why I'm pretty much set on nine Mil. I'm I think the the the gold dots are great I. Know a lot of people like them I have no problem with them I. Just Prefer H. as tease because they do a little better through autoglass and I spend a lot of time in the front seat of a truck. So I like heavier caliber so I'm I. Shoot One hundred forty seven grain ages ts in three inch guns, four inch guns, five inch guns call the way across the board. That's my preferred, but I think as long as you go the gold dollar. Some people really like the critical duties from quantity. Huge Fan of them, but Tony going on I. Don't know she's being point. I did forty cal because everybody else doesn't there. There's a bunch of forty cal fans and I'm doing it just to be just being. Because it has never forty cal has stopped doing anything. Forty cal was designed to do. so I'm a contrarian when it comes to that. Also you have heavier rounds. You still have tease. You have all that. And all of that's been proven over and over multiple decades by law enforcement across the country, but if you WANNA step into nine, I have no problem with that either understand though that when top when things like what's happening right now or ammunition apocalypse where we had a few years ago. You're going to have a hard time finding nine. Forty caliber right now. You can definitely get forty. Call Right now, and you're not about that I mean so nine millimeter isn't round for round better than forty caliber ties dropping off his. Worse, and for you live in a tent, ten round state you know I it kind of makes sense to me is a bigger cat. Because for me, I want the around so I. Think it depends a lot, too. If you live in a restrictive state, you can only have ten rounds in the MAG and you want to carry a Glock nineteen gun. It's nothing wrong with forty or forty five. Exactly I mean I think nine dollars King? All Gun should be under. Fifty different calibers, whatever it's good to go if you WANNA switch over tonight switchover tonight, and you're gonNA. Have a lot of options You got a lot of US guns well not more, but use guns the market for nine. Because after this is over these guys who just bought a gun because they thought they were going to be a lot of problems doing cove and now. Now whatever you WANNA. Call what we're going through now when things get back to whatever the new normal is gonNA be a lot of people are going to put their guns on the market well and the other thing to think about the one of the biggest reasons to go with forty caliber over nine is. If you're trying to make power factor, and you want you competition. You WanNa do if you know I say, go nine one more thing. If you'RE GONNA go forty or if you have a forty, they sell nine millimeter conversions for many guns on, but you have to really run it and you have to look into it to find out what's good. What's good conversion barrel all that stuff? And then you can just do the conversion bow especially on things like black twenty three Glock Twenty twos, I, mean it. It's like that gets a little more difficult, but other guns, but what's up? I got what I three fifty seven six o'clock, that's been converted nine mill for about five years now and run sign change extractor out. Exactly and that's one of the cool things about, and I'm not being glock. Fan Boy he I'm just talking about options with Glock gender three, being the gun of the or the generation of nine block bills. There's lots of options out there to switch your block twenty three over to a glock, nineteen for three hundred and change for a barrel slide and everything else. You know what I'm saying so right now. It's still use forties out there on the market that people aren't snatching so I say. Contrary to common belief in a lot of what I've been Steve from, will pettis testing nine are doing better than forty and forty five through vehicle bodies. If that is a concern for you, which most people would think that would be the other way around, but it's not well because you know if you look at like ballistic fast. Yes, smaller faster goes through better like your standard like soft body armor won't stop like your little d seventeen are, but it'll, but it'll stop a nine millimeter. Yeah. Well, let's we got another question here and this one. We got a ton of questions, but we're not GONNA get to all of them from Chris J. Excuse me. I am starting to research into pistol. Optics is one of the biggest problems is compatibility between optics and pistols. Would you recommend matching an optic cut to meet pistol? Pistol or matching a pistol to fit optic cut or is there a footprint to look for? That would give the most options and I think I think Zayd Ir on the same page here. assuming you're GONNA. Shoot them up to match it right. By the optic and then you, even though we complain about nobody putting optic cuts on brand new handguns, but my my opinion is, you're getting a red dot for a handgun. Go with an arm, our footprint I think the quality. The more quality sites have red dots. Have that arm our footprint. There are some that might not be quality, but and from what I hear. If you actually send an optic and your slide off to get it cut, you will get the best possible as opposed to maybe being tiny bit loose. If you buy like a slide that's already cut and then an optic or depends on who's cutting it obviously right like? I will literally cut it exactly for the specific author putting on. I agree if you're going to be serious about it, I would say yet. Direct mills the way to go the exception would be if you want to be open to be future proof, there are some companies that do offer a decent Universal, if you will cut, agency offers our system which is. Far Superior System to like the Glaucoma West. Turn your molest into an AO S, and it doesn't suck. The MOS system does and coming from Glock Fan boy. It pains me to say that, but it does not does block him. Oh! Yeah or you could go with a plate from like CNN precision, which does and the other thing to think about. If you're some, some cops cannot send their gun off to get it mill so then there are some good options out there, but if I still think the most reliable way to get the most the deepest cut, so that sets the optic, the lowest in the slide, which makes it easier to pick up and the most robust system is still going to be direct. Can Guarantee. Every manufacturer is GonNa. Say as soon as I do that. Your warranties enough weight, but ZAN's right I would go with I I would go and get the pistol. You WanNa shoot first and then find an optic to match it. You get if you get an optic to find a pistol to match the optic in. You'll like shooting a pistol. Thousand Point that you know you better understand one thing. Some won't be able to take not big like Beretta, ninety, two's true just working on their someone working on that. I'm sure they are again plumbing. If you'd like bread and ninety. Two's and you want to buy bread ninety two, but you can't fit count. You just have to deal with that, you know what's the point of buying a gun? You're never gonNA shoot, you know. Okay gotTA. Go to the one about the gun company. That's actually Adriatic Second Amendment Friendly Yeah. I like that one you. I can't read it screen anybody okay. Which one is it? I mean we can skip around I'll just oh know whether you're going to bring the show tonight. I just WANNA get down. Here. Firearms I think that's the one yeah in the firearms. Industry is silly to think that we Americans have to find a company Prost Second Amendment, but here I. AM trying to make sure that the product I buy is one of my favorite brands of air. Fifteen is the radical firearms, but what other companies stand behind the constitution openly. What are your favorites I? Think being Tony on the same page with this one. Liberty! Sons a liberty gun works NPR F- I'm I'm I'm I'm going to go with. Radiant okay because they. Oregon they have last year, they they put up like they said they were going to sell I'm you know I'm GonNa? Throw them in there. They are US made. Like sixty, I know from me, nobody on the shows ever heard of him but I m before and several times barnes precision apex North, Carolina I've been Andy's factor is brought to as they come, and not only that, but he works deals to get his rifles in his hands. A lot of his rifles are over in Iraq. Afghanistan somehow I guess are ladder. Take him over there I. don't ask questions about it And and I WANNA. Get out there because some people want to Poop, I've hung out with these people I've talked. These flowers on an highpoint is a pro very pro to a company. That's why they're in their price point. That's why they stay in their lane, so they can get firearms in the hands of people that can't afford something more expensive. That's why they do what they do, and that's coming directly from the President I point multiple times so yeah. They are companies out there. That definitely pro to a all gun. Companies are not pro to a many gun, companies or just businesses. And being strong pro to a feel might cost them customers or cost them politically, and they won't even dance. They won't even swimming pool and I. think that's some cowardly crap. I mean yeah and one thing that spikes. Fairly portray sorry. Yeah, that's one thing. I'm a huge fan of with when it comes to sons of liberty. Gun works like Mike over there is very outspoken about being not just pro pro all as the whole constitution and he like he rerouted is is shot show trip, so he can make it to the rally in Virginia. The day before and then flew all the way back to get a shot show. He dimples all his receivers. Right were that third hole needs to go. If you decide that you want to, you know. Do you want do modification? You know because you have a class. Seven sat exactly because that's why you have a class. Seven Zach class to. Class seven. But, yeah, he I've heard plenty of interviews that guy and at the next rifle advised from sons of liberty now the reason I didn't say PSA is because PSA will not send a completed lower to a state like New Jersey. They will not do it so now. You're not pro to a if if you're falling for that crap, because my Affeldt can actually modify my right for the Jersey legal. That's you mail it. That's not your problem. Is Gun Company? It's up to me as N. receiver to make sure my gun is legal in my state, and they will not send it no matter what, even if it's the NFL talking to them, personally, they will not send it Multiple I have multiple strep lower. PSA, but I find that oh crowd. The I think that that that crap about we say a cheap price point because we're trying to I, don't I? Don't buy into it by the. Marketing Yup well I think that's about it for today for questions but will I'll try to the rest of them I'll probably stick in in as we go throughout the next. Episode we'll stick one or two in. Just because we got quite a few there were a lot of people. that. Ask about TJ. I. And I. Still just wanted to say Tj has an open invitation. We'd never fired him so. But. Lost, he's just busy doing other stuff, so that is that and now we appreciate everybody who said in questions I will get d winners of prizes and such names, etc in order, so it may take a while but I do have the first one that with and that. 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iPhone 12 pre-orders, MagSafe cases, 5G updates in the US and UK, and Intercom feature on HomePod

AppleInsider Podcast

34:06 min | 8 months ago

iPhone 12 pre-orders, MagSafe cases, 5G updates in the US and UK, and Intercom feature on HomePod

"Hello and welcome to the apple insider podcast. This is your host Stephen Robe Liz and joining me from across the Pond William. Thanks for being. In, love getting to talk about this stuff acasuso things going on this time isn't that? Yeah, there is. There's there's lots to talk about what I WanNa know though as we record as our listeners here this now you should have or may have a new iphone your hand. So will you have a new iphone in your hand as people listen to this? Oh, no no because I'm in the UK. A delivery time slipped stay here than just about anywhere though Arita emailed me from I think Sweden and he's got to wait months for his. I ordered within moments we're going live, but I will not see my iphone pro pro until the ninth of November what. So now now pre orders in the UK they went live the same time as here. Right so it was eight am yes idiom here and it would be one they're exactly that. into one that shows hitting refresh matt trying to get through to it. I was Kinda street the APP and it had lots of problems. So back to the website so that delayed me. Twenty seconds it was. That's the thing. Now, do you do like a carrier plan the iphone upgrade plan or you just buy it outright this time I just bought it outright and it's still I. If I'd done in store pickup I could have got it on the twenty third. Their issues hair Kern virus lockdown. Off. Wife is slightly vulnerable. So I avoid getting in city center together. So I opted for delivery and as I went through the press, the delivery was going to be the twenty third, and then it was going to be a member of the second and by the time that she came through the orders naps the. that. Oh. Yes. Well, I've sorry you will not have one as listeners listening to this. You don't have one but. Just curious. What color and what size did you choose? Two hundred six GIGABYTES. Found twelve pro, and of course, it had to be blurred with the new blue. Okay. Are you going to have a new iphone by the time? This is yes. Yes I will, and because we record Thursday no matter how late Thursday we record, it will not be here but mine arrives tomorrow as you're listening to this today usually comes early to mid afternoon I have a white iphone twelve throw or silver as apple calls it and I went all the way with a five twelve because I'm going to maybe be using it for more video than I have in the past I really WanNa try that HDR and see how that video quality does but I will have it. And we'll also be maybe even testing five G. speeds, which we'll talk about in a moment in some places around here in central Florida that supposedly have five G. and I would love to hear from you what kind of five is available by you. But before we get to that, did you get any cases like MAG save cases or anything like that? No I'm thinking about the MAG safe puck kind of thing I actually I know it shouldn't but I try not to have a case at all because I really like I finished with that cases only wants all these years since I've been disastrously stupid mistake the rest of the time more I I avoid it's. I'm constantly tone Do you have a case that you got an would recommend do well. So actually I have two cases and the MAC safe puck right here in my hand these actually came very early the cases actually came Sunday. So pre orders were Friday the cases arrived Sunday along with the puck. So very fast but I usually like the leather cases that apple makes and those were not released yet supposedly those might be coming in November the leather cases, the twelve twelve pro one thing that threw me for a loop is the twelve case. Now, it is actually both for the normal size iphone twelve and the twelve pro. So when you go to case, there's just one case. Size for the regular twelve or twelve pro. I didn't know that because when I ordered it and I did like a double take and I was like wait did I order the right one and if you go on apple's website or in the APP, it'll say silicone case for iphone twelve, which twelve pro. So they're actually the exact same physical dimensions this year last year the regular eleven was larger than the smaller pro but not the case. So interesting point of information but I got the a white silicone and I got the clear apple case I'm holding them right now in my hand because the clear case has this white mag safe ring, this might be one of the most unattractive. I've ever seen. It's just I don't understand. Now I'm getting a white backed IPHONE. So maybe that White Mag safe ring will blend into the phone I'm not sure but but I got these two I'm going to try them out I. Mine Have Speaker Holes. There was actually images online of some iphone twelve cases not coming with speaker holes for some reason from apple directly from apple so. That was very strange What interesting part is the silicone case has the speaker holes, but there is the case goes all the way around the bottom. The clear case from apple the does not have all the way around the bottom. There's actually the opening up the bottom similar to the apple leather cases for previous models. So it is open at the bottom rather than closed. All the way across with Speaker Hole. So curious about that we'll see if I I don't know if I prefer one or the other, but there there one thought this isn't an early thought and also in relation to MK PhD had video and he had a similar thought where the magnet is not super strong at least against the case by itself and he even said. It's not very strong even with the phone in the case. So curious how close you actually have to get in order for it to line up correctly, and so that will remain to be seen when when we actually get the phones but anyway, that's what I have coming. I have the cases now have the maximum chargers. So yeah I'll be tweeting photos of its digitally as. When it comes in. Really. Enjoy that. That'll be just great. Thanks. I have a fact that doesn't seem to be picked up anywhere else. I spent a very long time deciding exciting I eleven pro I assumed if I bought one, it'd be the twelfth pro but then they're so similar travel topper great deal of time working through it on the end ultimately was lenses in the camera for the video. Did It on the Ram I felt justified and lied are benign let stuff but also the twelfth pro is brighter than the iphone. Eight hundred nets instead of six, hundred and twenty-five and I'd like a bright phone. So there you that that's worth hundreds of pans. Well. So let's talk about some of those differences because there's been more articles come out about the cameras specifically on the twelve, twelve pro and twelve Max. So one of the things that I was sweating over choosing between the pro and the Pro Max, and you don't have a two week return window who knows I might change my mind but the camera difference especially between twelve pro and twelve promex we talked about it on last week's episode briefly the Max does have a forty seven percent larger camera sensor on the main default camera which apple calls the wide camera and it has that optical image. Stabilization on the sensor rather than the lens which they say allows for more movements per second but there have been kind of more in-depth articles. Austin. Man which he is a well known photographer, he kind of does the big iphone camera review goes to some distant locale takes pictures. He actually did his review of the IPHONE twelve pro and I'll put a Lincoln show notes to his review. He takes credible photos with the iphones every year and you know he says, even the low light is actually even much better. Just eleven pro to twelve fro I'm willing to have the Max to test right now but. He says, there's noticeable difference especially in low light the ultra wide camera on the iphone twelve pro. Now also can do night mode and actually found that feature to be beneficial. He's got some great images from that camera sensor. So as I read about all these changes I was like you know what I think I'm still gonNA stick with a smaller size. I can't get my hand around the Max literally it's just too big for me when I've tried in the past and so I'll put several links and shows to Austin Man's photo review of the until he's going to review the pro. Max and he's Excited about that, as I scroll through my camera roll, I realized I'm not a professional photographer and a slightly larger sensor is probably not going to aid my pictures in any way. Oh well, you know I'm shooting a lot more video than I ever did and the more ahead about the Max is extra calm I was briefly tempted but I had an iphone tennis. Max. Got On trading in now and it's just it is. It's too big competitive by for me. So yeah, it's massive. Yeah. One other point on the cameras and stuff halide is a you know well known photography APPs on the IPHONE. Manual controls for like focus exposure a lot of professionals use it. Austin man also talks about how he used it. They just updated their APP yesterday as you listen to this. So check out the new halide mark to APP gives you even more controls and features in one APP taking photos. So if you get one of those iphone twelve pros tomorrow, William Sorry, try out the Halide mark to half I'll put Lincoln show notes and show us what pictures you to capture with that. If you really sorry he'd be sending your ipad like you keep promising. That's got to wait till the new one. You know the IPAD air came out and you know maybe we'll talk about that I know West actually ordered one and so his should be coming in as you listen to this episode. So I'll have him on next week and he'll talk about the high pad air is a very interesting device. But what I'm really curious to talk to you about William because you have the across the pond and knowledge about five G.. Now a couple of things that I have discovered about five G. since last episode, a couple of things. So number one on at and T. here in the United States and both at and T. and verizon actually have only specific plans that offer five G. Connectivity, and so if you're here in the United States and you're getting an iphone twelve or twelve pro today as you listen. To it Friday October twenty third you might WanNa check your carrier plan I was on an eighteen t unlimited plan that I had switched to really just in the last four to six months and that newer unlimited plan didn't offer five G. I actually had to change the kind of unlimited plan to one of their new ones so that I could access five G. speeds. So if you're. On Verizon or at and T. here in the united, check your plan actually make sure if you have five G. capabilities with that plan but also I, don't know if you saw any of these videos William but tech reviewers like Joanna Stern from the Wall Street Journal and Eli Patel from the verge took their Verizon iphone twelve out on the streets Joanna Stern went to I believe it's. Giant Stadium New York City or just stadium maybe it's one of the same but she went to the middle of the stadium the went to the streets of New York City, and they basically got up to two thousand megabits down on Verizon. Five G. Ultra wideband millimeter wave signal, which just seemed insane to me. So I have at and T. I'm going to be trying out five G. Here in Florida Orlando Florida supposedly has their five G. Plus which is at and T.'s name for their ultra wideband five millimeter. So that's the other thing they call a different things. Verizon calls five G. nationwide like the slower regular five g. and then five G.. All wideband is the faster millimeter wave technology at and T. calls it five G. and then five G. Plus five plus being ultra wideband, which is ridiculous also at and T. has been putting five GE on. IPHONES since last year, which is just crazy making that is not five g. just so you know and then t mobile they do not have a millimeter wave network just yet they're all in on the like sub six slower five g connection, and so they just say they have the largest quote unquote five network, but it's all that slower speed. So anyway, that's the case of five G. Here in America William Tell me about five G. in the United Kingdom Yeah Must I. Do, you even have it previously on five Jay is a few weeks ago Mike Apple inside I was telling me that five G. in the UK is far further advanced than is in the states and you can sign why small country can roll out that the infrastructure quicker. Great. Except right where I am this moment, there is no five G. reception all it. Is Coming I'M GONNA school three and realized actually because I haven't got five. Gee I didn't even look to see what the plans were. I'm just carrying on with what I've gotten. All figured out later. But I, I may not actually Botha with five G. because outside the US, you can't get millimeter wave so I will never get two hundred billion megabits per second. From some football stadium kind of. That really knocks me actually i. mean the fact that it isn't here where I am fine. It's going to becoming coming threes rolling out really well, I was quite surprised that it wasn't where I am near. City Centre. decided to just no. To the thing really F- The only five G. You actually want spill meter may wave one. The rest is it's not a toy five. So I bought five G. phone that isn't a five G. phone I'm five G.. So thank goodness the cameras the best. So even in mainland Europe, is there any plans for me this plenty of five G. and their for the fans that do have millimeter wave stuff? It's just it's patchy within the UK, and even if you have got it, you're physically technically never going to get the greatest speed because of Apple's decision. So I'd love to know what they're thinking is when they're boasting about being able to defy gene so many places, but they're taking away the only five G. that not as I find that annoying and I did find that out before I ordered but only just so you're so so I'm sorry you're saying they're like the European version of the iphone does not have the antenna to get. Millimeter. Wave Five G.. Yes. That's correct. Only I phoned sold in the US have millimeter wave five G. nowhere else in the world has it all we may have better infrastructure but atvs denying us the use of this. Yeah. You're surprised as I was when I heard about it but you get used to after you graduate teeth down a little bit. So now wait a minute now if I buy US iphone here and like ship it to you does it have the right bands to get the wave that's in UK Europe or does point? I. Don't believe. So the last thing on apple support documents was it has to be a five G. phone boats in America used in America. If I, she even for a man owner who travels to Europe at least for a while after saying you're GONNA lose this because it says internationally five running at all that fast at you will probably just sit back to four G. for some. Maybe they just dissing the rest of the world's Five G. infrastructure. But now, I know what might be in the IFM thirteen? Yeah, right. Wow. That is very strange. GotTa be a reason for it. They can't just punishing us for leaving Europe or something. I know what? It's strange too because there was some people asking you know there's a patch on the side of the iphone twelve and twelve pro under the sleep button that everyone was wondering is that could that be touch ID, but on announced store, what is that thing and for the US versions of the iphone it is five G. Antenna Patch to get that five G. Antennas. So and five phones that go to other countries do not have that patch, and so that is very strange obviously in the. In the event who was kind of weird because verizon CEO is on stage and I don't know I know it's been a long time since an apple van had a carrier on stage where they like Tim Cook shared stage space with them. So that was weird. But yeah, there was not really talk about five G. in the world. It was really just about five G. in Verizon's amazing network and that was it which I can understand because for all the years of apple being bashed for not having five. Right now, Tim Cook Command say five Jesus Brilliant but he can't actually prove it's because it isn't enough places and it's excluded in certain iphones. So at least getting verizon to say it was almost like look seriously honestly, it's going to be great kind of thing five gene was thought was going to be the big tent pole feature for this release on the APP was doomed if it didn't bring it out in time but then by the time we got to this stage five G. is not enough for so they had to do what they could do to make it sound with bullying. Right, very strange. Well, we will share would we can know Andrew's going to do video hopefully where he gets some five G. speeds I'm going to try and capture some in Orlando on a t and t to see what it looks like stopping the Lincoln Tunnel. 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VPN dot com slash apple insider to learn more our thanks to express VPN for sponsoring this episode. Last point on five G. specifically because I was wondering this to what the indicator in the top right corner of your iphone, what is it going to say when you're on five G. and apparently the indicator is going to tell you what the best available connection is at the moment. So like verizon, they have a five G. tag when you're in a five G. Network and then there's a five g. with a little you and a little w when you're on the ultra wideband super fast connection. So you're a little symbol on. Your iphones going to tell you the best available connection, but that's not going to tell you what speed you're actually pulling at the moment. So I don't know to me a little annoying like I wanted to know if I see something in the corner, that's the network I'm on you can do something you can go into settings an override, all of apple's default systems to say five g. all the way for everything, and then if you're in Jerry, that's what you're getting in, that's what it means, but you'll lose hours of battery life. Right. To I was whatnot joke last week I totally want to see a variety iphone twelve mini on ultra wideband playing a multiplayer game on full brightness I just WanNa know the hours of battery life or the minutes of battery life that will have. Because that'd be hilarious. But yes, that is the smart data mode settings that will be on the new iphones where you can force it to take the fast speed. No matter what and that is one of the things in the new carrier plans like at least at plan that I had to move to there is a higher data cap for high speed data and you know here in. America. Unlimited data's like infinite. Air quotes because the unlimited is like well unless there's a busy network and then we're gonNA throttle you or unless you go over fifty gigabytes of this and then we'll give you we're gonNA drop your speed. So on the new plan what I tell his, you get one hundred gigabytes of high speed data and then at and T. reserves the right to throttle you for the rest of your billing cycle or whenever they. Need to quote unquote and you'll never know when that is but one hundred gigabytes if you're pulling two thousand megabits per second or two gigabytes per second that would go pretty fast if you're trying to download seasons of a, TV. Show remains to be seen how how useful again, five years in practice keep your on apple insider dot com and we'll try and let you know where to find it hike, use it and Also al included in this week's shown up as well but I did include links to the five G. coverage maps from Verizon at and T. Mobile in the podcast article, and in the show notes as you listen to this podcast and we'll also put the list of cities that both carriers at and T. Verizon are claiming have their ultra wideband network and they both have different lists of cities so you can check out. The list of those cities to see if you're on it, I'm show notes on the article on Apple Dot com slash podcast. So to talk a little bit more about mag safe, there's been some cases third party stuff coming out one really a big point of interest. A lot of people went ahead and just back to this is peak design peak design makes their well known like backpacks for photographers and videographers to. Hold Lenses and cameras popular backpack they came out with their first iphone case, which is a mounting system, with MAG, safe support as a case and tripods and mounts and peak design is making it all mag safe and all that. So put on Lincoln show notes if you want to check out that and one other interesting fact about the MAG. Safe Puck in general, it actually acts as a regular cheap charger even if. You're not using it with an iphone twelve. So if you plugged that MAG safe larger PUCK, the new one into a power brick, you can charge your iphone eleven on that Mac save charger because it's just normal charging. You'll only get seven watts as opposed to fifteen or seven and a half lots I. Think about you can do it actually there's a video from basic apple guy on twitter and he shows his iphone. Eleven on the Mac safe and you can see us star charging. So you can charge your google. Pixel. You can charge whatever device you have that charge charging. You can actually use the MAG safe to charge those as well. It's not that it only works with maxine supported iphone twelve and case just say, but are you getting a a Mexican charger you thought about that well, actually you just made me more interested. I am looking at it. I figured do I really need it when I have Akita already? But if you fucking to swap out that one for this and use it to charge, I'm keeping my last. Brooks I used to cameras on things I've been else shot I. did not realize that like a charge them both on it suddenly much more tempting artist's best. We know when the The. is coming apple seeing that charges the watches well. Quite intrigued by that last look. Yes. there. There's no data definitely price for. No date no price. But yes, I'm very intrigued by that as well and would like to check it out but that should also work with like air pods. So if you want to get that duo charger where you can charge your phone and watch. But then if your phone's not on it, you can throw your pods or you can throw your air pods on it. That seems like a very tempting device very small sleek. So I think rumors of said November ish for that. So Megan November for the charge of for the leather case apples waiting for me that's what they're doing. Points until Williams got his phone, we won't believe to experience everything that has off. That's exactly well one other article and I'll put it in there too is there was a tear down of the new iphone twelve video and you can kind of see all the innards of the iphone twelve and how that's been constructed I wanted so fascinating, just the minute in tiny components in these phones and how they're all packed in there. So I'll put that article show is pretty interesting. Now, one of the feature I wanted to touch on because there was some confusion about this in the last weeks but intercom, the feature that was announced with the home pod many and they said it was coming soon is now available. So if you have a home pod from our whenever you've got your home pod, the update for fourteen point one, the home pod operating system is available. If you go to the home APP on your Iphone, you go to home settings and then you go to software updates for your devices. You can update your home pods and you can actually use intercom on your home pod right now but some of the confusion. Was Fourteen point one also came to the iphone this past week and it was thought that maybe intercom will be available on the iphone as well on all the devices like apple advertised but that is not the case that is probably coming with Iowa's fourteen point to in a later update it is on the Betas right now surround like the public Beta you'd be able to use intercom on your iphone but if You're not doing any Betas and you're just on that public release cycle for whatever the newest public Iowa's and hope Ottawa's you don't have it on your phone watcher ipad yet but you can't do it on your home pod and you can tell your home pod. Hey, Dingus send a message to the kitchen say it and then it will broadcast it in the kitchen you could say send a message to everyone reply. And you can do all that, but it's only on the home pas themselves. So have you tried this Intercom Feature William I didn't think I had but the you realize by accident yet, I have one part in my office is right next to me now and this morning I asked herself to play everywhere fleetwood Mac's on that particularly like and it said Yeah right play everywhere now and it was obviously trying i. was trying to actually play what was it wasn't the song wanted, but it was really happily telling me it was playing everywhere and it was on on all of my one home pods. That's what he was trying to. Suddenly make sense. Yeah it's it's interesting I'm in my house you know we have several home pods and with kids I'm curious to use it this way they can ignore the home pods saying come for dinner rather than just ignore the parents So we'll give him an opportunity for that but curious how it works in a large home did you have a use case that you? Were kind of excited to the Intercom and trying it out. We do chugging this when we moved into this house twenty years ago it was so much bigger than our old one that we used to joke that we needed to kind of star trek style, tap the badge, and talk to each other just to find each other and I suppose this would be it two decades later when. We've prometheus eroded the in the walls enough that we can hear through them. Anyway that's an image. Open links and show notes to that the intercom features and how to set it up and all that. But you can do it home pot only right now if you're on the regular public releases. So one last bit of news and I, Know William is very sad about this. But qube the streaming platform made for mobile devices released an Apple TV and the very next day announced that it's shutting down. So as we end the show today, we are saying goodbye be we rarely new you? Okay. Okay. That that's just examining. As on stretched out on the share. Why why do you feel that would be upset about this I am not she moved than it sounds I mean they tried something it founder and that's got to be ashamed. I didn't like it when I tried Caribbean myself I I worry when you focus is on the length of the show rather than the show I think you'd lose out in the drama. There are reasons why comedies tend to be now and drums tend to be an hour I mean I know we're kind of programmed over the years but things still formal natural certain things and when you instead. So it's going to be distinct and it's only ten minutes long. It's There examples of this before I just share TV geek hair quarter life from the makers of thirty something in my so called life, very successful online in I. Think it was fifteen minute chunks and they put them together to make our long episodes, instant cancellation and Powell stock. Blood and chrome same thing it worked in ten minute chunks. But then you put it together as program and it fell apart because the structure kind of overrode the story too much for us. So I tried I tried really hard and I think it's a shame fell for that reason. But as viewers a drama writer I on not on happy I'm afraid. Yeah, and it's you know obviously probably losing their jobs in relation to the. So that's very sad you know I don't want to listen that. Yeah but it is kind of a perfect storm as in the negative side of a launch qube launched. Earlier this year amidst the pandemic, which you would think might help an entertainment platform, but the problem is everyone was home, and so their main feature was this is media made to watch on your phone but if everyone's having to stay home, surely they have a TV or an ipad or something in their house, and if they're going to put something on for the heck of it and their home, the probably not going to want to hold their phone for fifteen or even ten minutes they have a TV there and so because a lot of. People were stuck at home in the last nine months. I feel like that was probably a big factor and also ten minute chunks of content. There are a couple other huge platforms that kind of have the market on that I mean youtube of being one and Tiktok while it's not that long because of the rise in popularity of Tiktok, you know if you're going to have a younger person, watch a piece of entertainment on their phone, they're going to go to Tiktok or maybe youtube most likely and so it seemed like it was trying to. Put itself in a niche that was already taken and also really hard to fill at this in this kind of climate over the past year. So I know they're still trying to sell some of their content rights and some of the stuff that was already produced. Maybe some of the shows that have already been released, they can go to another platform but unknown at the moment. But yes, qube is gone. Oh, and one other thing that is gone now to is the TV remote APP, which I know William is also very sad about a Couple of weeks ago, somebody was asking me about this and I was truly surprised because I control Apple TV through a control center on the IPHONE and. Concluded that I must have that control. Because I did happen to have the remote high. Well, high fortunate two years ago ran today this but now they separate things on the were and I. It's just so handy to swipe tupper button. Yeah. That's right. Miss I'm afraid and approach tip if you WANNA use a series shortcut. So I've actually got an IRA blaster. If you listen to the Home Kim Cider podcast, you would hear my story about this but I've switched bought hub mini which can control A TV, and so I now have a series shortcut were when I say, Hey dingus turn on my TV. The TV turns on the Apple TV wakes up, and my iphone automatically goes to the remote controller at the end of the shortcut. So if I say that one command I can just pick up my phone and the remote control is good to go. So if you didn't know that that's actually one. Of the series shortcut commands, you can have your phone go to the controller and control a specific apple TV because that's another thing is sometimes if you go to that control center apple TV and if you have multiple apple TVs in your house, it's hard to tell at a glance which one you're connected to, and you might have to like tap the top like the other apple TV. But with Syria shortcut. You can have it control the exact apple TV that you're wanting. So just a little pro tip there at the end for series shortcuts at I I have so many show cuts do so many different things but the one thing about your one that is it ends up with a device pushing a button at the end and I've just got this vision of ropes and police and some sort of Rude Goldberg Goldberg. It's a room. Yes. 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BLUNTCAST 19  FABIOLA CINEAS  Vox Journalist

The Philly Blunt: The Podcast That Celebrates Philly

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BLUNTCAST 19 FABIOLA CINEAS Vox Journalist

"Hey what's up blunt heads in a this week's blunt cast that we did live on our facebook page on Friday night. We sat down with fabulous cineas. She's a former senior editor at Philly MAG, currently working as a race reporter for VOX DOT COM. She did a special article for Vox on June teeth about June teeth, so we talked to her about the history of June teeth what she learned doing the research for the article if she could have written that same piece for Philly, may we touch on the lack of diversity of Philly Mag both on the editorial board and their content, which she was pretty vocal about on twitter and February, let us know what it was like to spend time one on one with Candice Owens, and the follow her around the speaking engagements for research for an article and interview she did. Federal is a fresh voice and journalism insightful, and currently a West philly resident, and we hope you enjoy. Hello Ladies and gentlemen and welcome to philly blunt my name's Johnny Good Times. I'll read. This is Greg and we are extremely psych tonight to me hanging out with of vox writer former Philly MAG senior editor a fabio. Fabio lascivious Fabio. Welcome to the show. Thank you yeah, absolutely so gotta ask. I don't know. Exactly where you are, are you guys getting fireworks going off constantly old night every. Yes! Are you're a reporter? You gotTa tell me what's going on here because we gotta, we gotta work together to stop this. Yes, so you know what's crazy is I want to say three weeks ago when the protests started three or four weeks ago? People were there. was that whole report about like ATM's being blown not. So just across the city like corner stores, and all these random spots and I don't know that the I think. Some police departments did confirm it, but they're still like so much misery around a lot of that noise was, but I think lately. It's definitely been people just firing off firecrackers, Ullah Block. That last night. Like why don't their black people were yeah, habent firecrackers! What about what about the conspiracy, theory? The theory that it's the cops. I've heard that, too yeah. I have to say it's not I. I was on Zoom Today for work and the other three people were in different areas of either Manhattan. The boroughs and they're having happened. There was a whole discussion I don't know if it's nationwide as for us. I've seen people in Boston talking about Chicago it's. It's going down worldwide nationwide. I mean you know I guess. It's kind of a confluence of events right like it's almost fourth of July everybody was kind of stocking up anyway and then didn't. They just make fireworks legal Pennsylvania like a month ago like the worst timing for any her. Right. Okay, let's legalize fireworks. Right? People Start Setting off dynamite. Like just so, everybody's a little bit on edge already and then just start throwing them out. There was okay like when we had curfew at eight. o'clock you would hear fireworks at eight, Twenty, eight thirty and I thought that was cool being your. We're out here curfews on, but we're still out here. Shoot fireworks domes. Okay with that, but now it's just like M. Eighties at like midnight twelve thirty one am de, so my first question is how you doing how you processing how you holding up with everything going on. Okay I mean. I. Think everyone would agree that. This time right now is unprecedented like as a reporter I've been in. Situations where covering just what's happening across the country has been nonstop, but I don't think that any of it. Any compares to this moment so when I first became journalist in not when I first went proper like a year into being a journalist in Philly covered the Democratic National Convention and that was just nonstop right 'cause we had people from all around the country in Philly, and that was just a pivotal election. Election Right I. Remember Hillary Clinton coming to Philly all the time the OBAMAS back and forth, and so that was just like a very exciting thing, and yes, around those times there were protests, but just nothing like what we're seeing right now, and so I think the hardest part has been just the scramble newsrooms of just like we need everybody on deck, so if you're a wedding editor if you're like covering science. Like everybody is now covering race. Everyone is covering racial justice. Everyone is covering the police so I think that that's been like super fascinating to just watch how people just have to quickly learn as you need to get the story right because if you're not be right in your, that's that's not good right now. Picture in the wedding person like it was A. Protest today they used. Different Hues and lightning. In philly I'm sure you guys saw the the wedding of couple that got married. Owner that was awesome. Yeah Yeah that was beautiful, so but yeah, generally I think it's a moment of just like learning people just starting on these like anti-racism journeys but just also healing right just remembering self care, and and trying to take time to heal. is black people just very important. Is it weird? I mean this for U. N Revisit Weird to see like a way people do. We seem crazy at this point? or buying all these books New York Times list. You've seen crazy at all. Right I mean this crazy, but you have. Let her finish, but I'll say that for me. It's been you know it feels like a genuine effort to try to. Figure this out like in it's it's the first time I. Think George Fluids was just so. Gruesome in just casual that like people are like okay. Maybe maybe they're not making this up, I don't know like. So for me, it's been like yet. Do the work rock out, but be genuine about my what you said. Yeah I think for me, it's. Just kind of seeing certain white people who I may be knowing their personal lives. Try to be like Oh. Let me put the square up on instagram. That's kind of weird because I know just like what you're like in your regular life so I, just kind of want people to be more aligned with just like and yes, right I'm not mad if you're coming to this late, not a problem, but at the same time like I want the public persona that they're putting out there to kind of match the action that they're actually taking in their personal lives, and so I feel like once those things are closer I'll feel more comfortable about like people really being dedicated to to what this is for the long run. Yeah I mean I think that's you know it's. We're in such a weird space because I feel like normally, all of these types of movements get co opted by celebrities, sports leagues by whatever's happening. That's you know glossy and well produced in all that and we don't really have those things right now. You know so I kind of feel like the movement feels much more organic than maybe it's felt like in the asked because we're not getting. Co opted by Hollywood or or whatever do you feel that way like, do you? Do you think that's part of the reason? The movements been so big is that it's been so real. Yeah I definitely feel that grassroots part of it like even watching day shipped. Dave Chapelle, special in him kind of like responding to what Don Lemon was saying because right. Don Lemon was went on a rant like where the celebrities weren't they saying anything, but then Dave Chapelle came back and was like. The streets are speaking for themselves right now right like people don't want to hear from you know at the top from the celebrity level, and so even for example like Kanye West no one he did say anything, but we then heard he set up right like a fawn for George. Floyd's dark daughter. He set up all the stuff and they're not. They're not being as vocal, but I think they're. They're doing moves that I think are more impactful so I do think people are looking to activists on the street to kind of lead and take action and just kind of follow and I. do think that that's that's definitely like. Has something to do with what is this sustaining the way that it is? Do. You feel positive. This is you know we're seeing changes already, but do feel like. I said this before like it feels like we'll get here in the kind of fades away, How do we sustain it in? Do you like that? Something will happen? Yet I think yesterday actually interviewed this political scientist Meghan Francis and she was kind of talking about what it's GonNa take for this to be sustained and choose like it's definitely the education part. It's definitely the action part once. You unlearn a lot of things, but then it's like you're in the streets because your whole goal was being in the streets. Is Public awareness right so when you look at all these polls that are saying. Sixty percent of people believe that like police violence is an issue now like that kind of those kinds of numbers are unheard of, but then on top of changing public opinion. Then that's when you're right like taking political action right so I think we have the benefit of it being an election year right November, that's coming up so fast and I think that just the timing of everything from Corona virus to the protest, and now right the summer moving into the election like that to me. is a really good thing for for momentum to be lasting into like clear political action. And Right, we see a lot of politicians in the past right one We saw things that were happening in Ferguson. A lot of politicians are even Democrats were able to be like you know what I'm not GonNa even make this report on my platform. I'm not gonNA address this, but now you see like today. I was checking my email I'm like signed up for like Elizabeth Warren Cory Booker. Just all these people everyone sending June eighteenth Just is the I've never seen this before. So yeah, the fact that politicians have to respond or the fact that someone like Joe Biden has to say this is how I feel about defunding the police that says a lot about how this change of public opinion is going to affect what happens politically. What do you? What do you think when you hear produce? Say That responsible for the June teeth awareness more than anyone else right now. Assess. It's it's it's scary. It's just like. How could someone be so delusional? He said it like I was reading that interview and was just like. No one knew about it like I asked around no one knew about it. And when they asked the woman in his office, she was like actually. We commemorate it for the past three years. By, nobody knew about it. You didn't know about it anytime like a private party. Without him exactly yeah, people. Today were like happy. June teams to everybody except for Donald Trump so that makes sense. Was Donald and candice and CON Yays. Own Little private party every year for the last two years. Come on. To say, it's been due to me. My weirdness of June teeth came on black ish, three or four years ago, I had never heard of. It was never on my radar. Episode. You wrote an excellent piece about it like Tell us a little bit about the research that went into that it might. Did you learn things that you went along with it or definitely? Just like everyone else I think I was fortunate as I was born and raised in Brooklyn Brooklyn. Fortunately in Brooklyn I had like woke teachers right so I had like I can shot them out like Miss Coleman in middle, school, Dr Powell in High School, and these were just like right out of an WANNA sign that were radical to them, but for what they did. It was radical, so we're I was aware of what June eighteenth was not that it was something that was celebrated in our community in. In Brooklyn, but right there was an awareness of like what it was, but even with that right, there wasn't like a hope. Here's a lesson plan around like what this thing is. Here is like how this connects. The civil. Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. There was no kind of like clear time on just connecting of just how this event of June eighteenth even matters or means anything for us today so. I again had an awareness, but in terms of like celebration I still feel like that probably didn't happen until like college for me, until much later, so in terms of reporting on that piece I definitely learned a lot just like pulling up the original language of like the orders that were given. is fascinating, just trying to understand the reason for like Abraham Lincoln's emancipation proclamation, so that came down right in nineteen, sixty three, and then it was nice to eighteen sixty three. So eighteen, sixty three that came down, and it wasn't until right two and a half years later in eighteen, sixty five that the folks galveston Texas found out about the emancipation proclamation, and that's just scary to think about just looking at the language and trying to understand like why Abraham Lincoln. Even wrote the emancipation proclamation to begin with why it you know freed slaves and others like that was like a lot of new things that I was learning about. The role of Freed black people, so you know black people just freeing themselves and running to union army lines in order to seek emancipation, like that was a big deal in just the new spreading across the south, and so just the story about like why it took so long for the news of the proclamation to reach people in Galveston Texas. They're like a bunch of different folktales around that right like there's one story that says. There was some dude riding on a horse. With the news, but then he was murdered. So that's why like the news never got to that part of Texas. There's another story which I think is probably the most accepted just the idea that white enslavers right in the south basically kept right. They didn't wanNA share the news because they were tab incentives to say you know what I need. This harvest I need to keep slavery going so we're not gonNA say anything right? And they were the deepest reaches of the confederacy, so they were able to do that kind of thing, and even when. The general arrived in Galveston that day it still took a while for this new normal to be a thanks, so there's a quote Dr including the article. That's like a beautiful quote. I'll read it right now at the end. Basically just talking about. Freedom Coming, so this guy recalling he said in nineteen, thirty seven Pierce Harper. He said when peace come, they read the man's a patient. Lots of the colored people. The free people spent that night, singing and shouting. They wasn't slaves no more and so that's like a beautiful thing to think about. But even though they were celebrating, there were still people right in some extreme cases apparently for months we're still enslaved and being beaten by. The people enslave them. Even though the proclamation had come down, even though this order was in place, yeah, definitely learned a lot I. think another thing that stuck out to me in doing research for this piece was how the celebration of June teams really ebbed and flowed so throughout different periods, so yes, eighteen sixty six was the first time it celebrated, but right throughout different periods right throughout. We think about through We construction if you think about roller one hour of the World War Two era like just what black identity, Matt and how much pride you took in your blackness. I think had a lot to do with how June eighteenth was celebrated, so there was a point where it was shameful. Right to talk about June team that it was actually considered unpatriotic. If you were like hey I'm celebrating June. Teens because thinking and looking back to slavery was something that was shameful. Right if you were connected to slavery. People kind of Dean that to be shameful thing so that was like that's that was really sad for me to learn about that. There was a period, but then of course right when we move forward, so the civil rights era. It's like reclaiming that ride reclaim that identity and so it's like. Let's bring this back again so i. feel like even right now. Twenty twenty were looking for things to kind of understand. Confront that history, and so that's why I think this year were like pudding June team, front and center. Nice, you, do you get you know? Do you get a Furby UN reef like? Knowing history and especially that history right so you had that hope that went out with June teens. Here, we go. We're going to start with a better America and then you add reconstruction. We went backwards right so then in the nineteen teens. You find one like hey, we were soldiers were part of this. You come back to twenty s Klux. Klan comes back. Civil Rights era followed by the war on drugs, which is obviously a very racist. Thing like. Is there a certain like okay? We're starting to make these steps forward, but we can't trust. What's GonNa? Come afterwards or do you just keep fighting and say okay? We're GONNA. Try this again. I think that. Again knows this conversation I had yesterday with Meghan Francis. She helped me realize that. The fight because I was asking her like. was there another period of time that was like more effective at protests in like bringing about change in she was like. No. We can't like just sell separate. These time periods is being like moments in themselves, but look at them as like. We're in this for the long haul like this is just going to be this long time line of just like continue change. That's why it's important to just continue to keep the pressure on, but yeah. I think in my mind. Mind or standing is just like it's not necessarily what you're going back. Because I feel like every step forward is is a win, but I think this. This moment is maybe kind of clouding our vision in terms of lake. Oh things are worse now, but I don't think things are worse now right? I think it's just like things are coming to the forefront, right? We have cell phone video. We have body cams that are showing this things we have social media, and that's making these things go viral, and so there's greater awareness right and I take greater awareness and non black people as well so I think every step forward I. Think we're moving forward as we continue so just going to constantly be a fight until yet true liberation and people also disagreed. You know there different ideas of what that looks like, but. I think it's just a never ending fight. I've said this before I've I've said it on the show to me. You know being being black in America's like you're in a tank that is filling with water that stops. You know just at Your Chin. In. You're constantly treading in fighting for air and just trying to like just it it. It's ridiculous to me that this point in my life. I'm I'm probably. Way older than you thirty, eight, thirty nine. and My mother can tell stories about this and her mother got Russell tell stories about this and her mother and it's just like. You know my kids. Today was very emotional for me. Because as you know, there's five six, maybe seven at this point by the morning, a black babies that have been hung on trees and you know. It just feels like. When does this stop in? I don't know if it ever will I feel like this is constantly going to be celebrating. Celebrating the fact that people that were slaves here got their freedom so when you look at it in that context, we will never supposed to be anything, but that and that energy and those ideals were taught in still in people. People so it doesn't matter how far we get away from that that that energy still around so for me, it's very frustrating, but again as she said, it's a fight and I'm down to fight. I'm from a line of fighters I. Know People around me like I just don't want to be around. People that are not willing to fight, so that's why I met with. or Whatever you are if you're not trying to fight. You need to stay away from have y'all seen video from Bethel Ohio. Now that there was a protest, it's a town of twenty five hundred people and I think it was a high school teacher decided to have a black lives matter protest. You put out a a facebook group meeting and I think twenty five to thirty people should for that seven hundred counter protesters armed. Guns Baseball bats spewing the most racial slurs proudly on camera. It's. Amin is one of the most horrifying things I've seen and early suggest you just check out Bethel Ohio. Yeah, it just happened to I. Think like three or four days ago. and which I haven't. Shipman is just like you know like for me like. I'm not like I can't. I would end up in jail or something I. Like I'm not I'm not one of these people that are just leading. This like can't do that around me. You know what I mean like so I. Try to stay far from that type of energy because I know me and I know my way out, react to it and I just feel like this. A lot of that weren't like that. That are starting to get like that whether like we're not gonNA. Take that shit anymore. You can do that shit in Bethel Ohio but like. Come to my city do that. Know Right? Yeah I wonder if there's a difference now. From speaking about the times we've been we've had this. You know these advances in America than the going back, but you know to some degree, I mean never before have black people had this much control of the culture. You know I mean you guys I mean. People are like people look for for style. That's look for music. That's what look for for entertainment. It looks for Do for Sports, does that? Do you think that makes any difference in terms of what we're going through now versus what we went through then or do you think that that? was seeing things kind of rolling backwards maybe not. Yeah. I kind of feel like right. Black people have. Set the tone with culture breath flick historically right? It's just like it's been stolen right, so you think about and rock and roll, and just like all these things everyone says like when you look at so many things there are just roots in their rooted in oppression, the rooted and you know black people who created these things were stolen and I feel like even now today. It's kind of like the same story. Even though again is just more awareness towards it, so for example all these books that people are going to buy were in by black people right. Right, there trending, they're number. One on the bestseller lists. A lot of those authors still were not paid like even though they're number one on these vessels, these authors were not paid the way they should have been paid for a lot of those books and I think that's a sad thing, so yes, those books are kind of setting poultry right now and setting the tone, but still when you, when it comes down to the details, these black authors and artists are not on par with their counterparts, and I think that's that's at the heart of the problem. For me I, always go back to. There's a scene in. Do the right thing. Where Spike Lee is talking to one of south sons in the in the pizza shop. In He's asking me. It's like you'll man. Your favorite artists prints your favorite comedians Eddie Murphy in, he says, will they inwards? Inwards they're different and I. still like what you what you just alluded to was like you know with the culture with music in in movies in athletics, those guys are put to a higher standard, but like if you don't respect the mailman or the lady that lives next door to you like it can't just be that you respect certain aspects of black people with you. Don't respect us. US As a whole. If we're not singing and dancing or dunking a basketball, then you fucking racist and I don't want anything it was so that's that's the stuff that has to change and I feel like I've seen strides towards that recently than have in my whole existence so I'm hopeful, but again as I said earlier like I hope that that's something that continues so you now? Well? Let's talk a little bit more in terms of You know your sort of your personal history and I know you had a big. You you've started. I guess fulltime Vox. Now you went from Philly. Mag and you just went full time with vox. So that's a pretty exciting. You know we talk about how things have been crazy for all of us in the last three months. That's another thing that for us probably been pretty exciting and at the same time, a little bit crazy. I guess right right. Yeah! It's definitely been crazy I've been at. At Vox full time now for two weeks, so I just see this week was just an second week. I started freelancing with in April so just 'cause corona virus, right? That's the period where that's. The moment will realize that corona virus was disproportionately impacting black people, and so there was room to kind of do a lot of that reporting, just looking at cities, I think Milwaukee was one of the first places. Where numbers will release, what like the initial conversation was just like? These cities are not releasing the racial breakdown and that was like scary 'cause. CDC Doctor Faucher all of them. They were just not even talking about race, so that was like the initial push, and I was like really fortunate to be able to tell those kinds of stories through vox, same thing feedback I was able to look at philly numbers like. Why there testing sites you know in north, really in the way that they're in center city and stuff like that, so that was really cool to be able to tell that story, but yet the transition I think has been generally free food because there's so much surprised about right now also. It's just overwhelming, but then at the same time leave in Philly Mag after being there for almost five years was definitely. A big move for me also I wanted to ask you about that because I've always called him, you know. Mainline MAG. Magazines! I saw what you wrote about. You know you're you started working with people? You really respected in all of sudden. They were gone and don't do stories about the downtrodden. Can you tell us a little bit about what you experienced as a journalist and as a black woman trying to write for this magazine, it absolutely so yes, just everything you said about this idea of like Philly Mag being mainline mag I started working. Working there in two thousand sixteen in the spring and I said in at twitter thread I was hired by like editor who's kind of brought in to kind of bring change to the magazine. It was because the previous editor was pushed out into a different role in the company, because of the controversial schools cover so schools cover, or it was a look at Philadelphia City schools, but then on the cover it was just like. Been One. Yeah, she kit of color and it was just like. This is not philly and that right came after the being white in Philly covering twenty thirteen, so it was just like. Just mess up after mess up and so coming in. It was clear that was coming in at a time where. I was under an editor who had made like just very specific. Just like what am I saying calculated hires around like what the newsroom could be on, and so at that time I felt like we're doing some really important stuff. We're covering stories that I think are more representative of what the city of Philadelphia looks like, but then sadly right. In that editor was, let go, and so what we heard at the time. was that the now like deceased founder Magazine Basically said like Oh the editor care too much about the downtrodden and so once we heard that we were like Whoa we're still like you know. In one thousand nine hundred sixties, Philly MAG, type, stuff, and so or defense I was like ninety five years old so. He was old, he was old. And so again, I feel like a lot of us are Ron to Philadelphia magazine because of the space that it occupies in the city, right? It's still it's. It's it is the first city magazine right? So a lot of people don't know this, but it came before like New York magazine, and so Philly Mag really did establish a lot of like the quintessential like elements of city magazine whether it's like the best. Best of issue whether it's guides to you know doctors across the cities of Philly Mag really is in that space and so i. think that's why a lot of our track to it, because it is a platform that a lot of people read, but at the same time, right, the average subscriber has an income of like something, one hundred and ninety four thousand dollars, and so when you think of that, it's like. Is that people in Philadelphia if that's people in Philadelphia. What do like yeah? Right so and while I. was there I never felt like. You know I was silenced or anything like that right like I folk free to speak up, but there's only so much you can do without institutional weight behind you only so much you can do so we for example lives there established like a diversity committee. We established a fellowship program with the Philadelphia Association of Black Journalists Again. Those moves were small things. I guess they were steps in the right direction, but I still didn't feel like. The higher ups were fully behind that. Because when we were in the diversity meetings, they weren't present at those meetings on some. My my issue with that was that. When I saw these protests happening when I was kind of moving onto this new position with Fox I kind of felt weird right? I'm like Oh. Jerry about announced that I'm moving onto vox. I, just I felt like I just wouldn't feel right. If I didn't make a statement, right? We saw what was happening at the New York Times we saw what was happening at bone apetit refinery, twenty nine men Republicans all these national places, unlike I hope that people aren't thinking just because they don't see news or anything around certain places that it's not happening at these places to, but I'm dislike. It's happening at these places but there. Are, no people to kind of stand up and organize, and so that was the issue that I thought. It was just like I'm leaving. There was another young black woman who was also leaving, so that would basically left like one fulltime black writer. Right so writer who was like actually managing vertical right in this? Magazine Philly like come on man. And it's a tough thing. Because again, I can say yeah. The editors They mean well. I do believe that they care about diversity, but I think something needed to happen to really like. Just make this. Go faster because again, right? There were diversity plans before there were you know diversity meetings before our CEO yeah, I care about diversity, but again there just weren't any clear I I just didn't feel a clear like momentum, clear vision behind it and so yeah, that's what drove me to kind of say you know what I have to say this stuff before I move on because I just felt a morally because I care about just the stories that are being told. That it just needs to be said and I feel like especially in this moment of protests, the fact that only white reporters you don't majority what reporters are reporting and are on the streets during the protests like and that's why we saw like the buildings matter to headline from the Philadelphia Inquirer right and people. What's funny with the buildings matter to headline is. I WANNA say two days before that I want twitter to talk about another story that came out that I. don't even know if y'all are aware of this, but they did. A pianos matter like they did a piano to. So they wrote a story about their one of their arts, writer writers wrote a story about how looters broke into a sore and pulled out a white piano and he was, he wrote an entire story granite. It was like three hundred fifty words, but he wrote a story talking. It's so sad that this piano was dragged into the street and I can't believe they've analyzed his piano like that was a story that came out. Like amid stories of police, brutality, and teargassing people and I was just like they roll the whole story about a piano. Can I can I answer June? Teeth piece was great on Vox. Could you have done that piece at Philly Mag? Or what would the reaction be if you would have proposed a? That's a great question, so I think again it also has to do with resources right. That was something else so oftentimes right priority would go to to food coverage, or we need to do this kind of coverage because that's. Where advertising dollars are coming in and so I, think a lot of has to do with resources, and so the juicy piece that I wrote from Oxford. That's at time that took me right going aside and say hey. I'm going to focus on this thing, but when I was feeling that it's just we need things to move a bit quicker to kind of keep up with. With, the flow of things, and so again I. Think there was a time when the editor like some months ago like back in January in a meeting where it was like. Yeah, we need to talk. We need to tell more stories about people who don't look like near, so you're saying I want more stories about people color. And he said it and right I definitely commend. Commend him for saying that, but again. WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM? Right I feel like we were out of place. There was just like I said it, but then it's like there's no measure of accountability to really track. was there was an outcome after you said? We need more stories about people of Color, and so I think that's right. I would like pitch off and then things. Things just fell by the wayside, and it became up to you to kind of keep that a story up. I have had opportunities so like I wrote so April twenty nine th. We did like the meek mill cover, and that was great and in that issue. We're able to do a list about like new philly power, so actually I felt like that list was very diverse. Younger people on the lists right in the idea behind that was kind of. Let's forget 'cause every couple of years philly. MAG does like a hundred most influential people Philadelphia an awful right. That list is like the seal comcast seal. It's often like those people at the top, so it was like. Fifteen or the Rog family? Meal the Limb Fest. And so it was like really fun and inspiring when our editors were like. We don't want anybody on the lists like really take it run with it, and so that was like another great moment another thing I got to do a profile of candidates owens because she was living in Philadelphia for some time and I pitched that. Are, editor was like let's go with it, and so that was really cool to be able to take a moment to write about that so yeah. It was it was an experience, so I was able to. Sit Down with her for dinner. And then it was dictated over dinner. We went, so we originally have one place in mind. But then that day they quickly changed it, so we went to a restaurant near thirty street, so there's a restaurant in. One of the Seer Center buildings, and so it was like right across the street from Thirtieth Street because she was getting off a train. It was simple. You know we have burgers and fries and salad, and that stuff we dinner. And then she was going to give a talk at Penn, so then I followed her to basically watch those protests on campus because she was going to be there so I was. thinking. Of on a protests on campus, then she gave her talk at Penn, and so that's what she's kind of known for like owning liberals like I own lives and so. All the list. Given everything because everything now is professional wrestling. Match. Exactly until it was like this weird thing where she talked maybe for like twenty five minutes, and there was like all right time for questions, so like poor little students like got up. Lined up to ask her questions, and it was just like her just railing, just railing against what they were saying just back and to me like as an observer I was just like. This is not a productive right here. You have a woman, right? Yeah if someone who, like every into like shutdown, whatever kind of argument and in the time that you have? It just didn't make sense and the people who invited her to campus, the College Republicans, and what are so. She had support in the audience, but it was very tense in. There are a lot of booing and cheering and. Yeah 'cause even before like before she started her talk, there were people on physically on the campus a lot of the morning students. It was just people from like Philadelphia came to campus. Be, like, yes, he hated yeah yeah. She was just it was just like this event should not be happening, so yeah, when the question answer happened. It was just like this is, but you know what's funny. I remember talking to this one student in audience who sat in front of me this black kid from Kelley you was I was like. Why are you here like? Why did you come to this event on your campus? And he was like this is entertainment for me like. I don't agree with the single thing. She says, but he was like. It's an entertaining shit like he was like he was like had his popcorn and everything. This is what this is for this kid now so yet been after that I was able to then I flew out to tech to Texas to Dallas to see her in action at one of her blacks. It rallies, and so that was like you know I had been to like innocent trump stuff before, but this was like right because the goal was to bring black people together black white. Did you just say blacks Lexus on Jesus Lord? So I went to a black At of course right away, I would say. For what it was right there just weren't enough. Black people in the room. If you're saying, this is an event for black people. Right, there were so many white people who were like blacks for trump's like words. Just like. That's what it was the. You a lot of leg. Young black people who are trying to find themselves he trying to you know they were like something's not right with the Democrats. Let me. See what this is about. And then they had their Tanya life is good shirts, right? Yes. Those. Shirts from the nineties, it was probably the worst I've ever seen that was. Let's funny about that. When I showed up to the rally, basically to enter, they would give you the ones that they had that. They were neon colored and there like in order to come in. You have to wear it and I was like guys are. Not. Yeah. Well I WANNA. Ask You about that because you're you know you're younger I. Mean You know I'm? I'm an old head over here and and and I'm still from the age of everybody talks. Everybody gets a shot at the podium. You say what you want. If you get angry at you, get angry, Adam and now we're you know what everybody refers to. His count can't cancel culture. So. Do you. Are you okay? You know you're saying. People were mad that candace was speaking Are you okay with Kansas speaking at Penn? Is that something that you think is important that we hear that perspective or use, or do you think that there are certain people that just shouldn't speak right I? Think I think it comes to the point where it's like if if certain people if what they're saying. Directly. Attacks my humanity, right? My existence is a black person if your argument is. Black people. Are Inferior if that's what's at the root of what your argument or your talk is like, that's problematic to me and so at that time with candace, right? I think people don't realize how dangerous rhetoric can be so think about the shooter New Zealand like she was named in that guy's manifesto. And so that was like around the same time and people are like. Why are you bringing this person who right is associated with Nazis associated with people people of those groups people of that ilk kind of. Look up to her and so that I think there's something to be said about like. If what you're saying, incites violence, right against Moore. People incites violence period. We need to look at right whether it makes sense for you to be coming to to to a campus to speak on and again even when right when Kansas was like. Oh, I want like Alexandria causing a core tested the bait me. They do that kind of thing. Same Thing Ben Shapiro like these people do this kind of thing. Just A it's. It's a sport like you were saying. It's just this new sport. Where to me, it's just not fruitful. I just don't see the benefit of all cutting wrestling promos I mean that's I. Mean I'm a wrestling fan from way back and it's the exact same thing. Redeeming about how great you are, and what idiots? All the other wrestlers are exactly and like. She said that I'm sorry, go automatic on. Assigned and that's why I appreciated being able to get to sit down with candace owens over dinner. Right without like this spectacle with off is big audience. It's like let's just talk. Let's talk about facts and there are certain things that like I was like. Her belief in certain things are based upon things that aren't facts right? You said stuff about like trump end like the black unemployment rate. Not I was just like okay. That's actually not factual. About the Central Park Five. It's like okay. That's not true, and so that's why I'm like okay. We differ a lot because we're not even starting from the same foundation of facts. How do you? How do you do that as a journalist? Separate your personal. Feelings and beliefs when you have to sit across from someone that you know is just common Dome Bullshit Right? Yeah, and that's the question because I feel like we're in an era of journalism where people. Try to create this false idea of like. Oh, journalism should be objective journalism your. You need to get rid of you, but it's like no. That's the beauty of like being a journalist. I think now is that you shouldn't be right right? My identity should be a part of the story and I think that that's what was full about. The source is like everything I'd seen about. Candice owns before I WANNA. Say like the two big stories that had seen like NBC one in The Washington, Post magazine had. Had done one and they were both written by white women, and they'll stories did not bring any kind of like racial context in terms of like the fact that she is a black woman who has this kind of platform, and so I feel like for me when I was writing the story about Candice Owens like absolutely I was bringing identity as a black woman. The fact that we were part of the same age group you know raised in similar ways like those are things that I cannot separate from. What I'm doing as a journalist and so I feel like now even more than ever. It's important right so when I was like starting this job at vox had compensation by editor and she's just like right. We can no longer pretend that right. This is what we support. You know where we you know. We're not gonNA lie where like we? You know it's clear that we're not trump supporters from the kind of report amount. and so I think that that's like a new space that were in in journalism because I feel like. There's always this thing for black writers especially, if like Oh. You're going to be biased because you're black, so you can't really tell the story, but it's just like wait. White men are constantly reported. Won't things what about their bias? Right and they're just constantly seen as like objective reporters, but it's it's not the case. Yes. The baseline was used to the north. I remember going up. It was like Ted Koppel Tom Brokaw. you know wherever the other guy was? I. Mean You look at the newsroom's? Rooms Philly and we're you know. I think Philly's a great a great example of where places should be versus where they are right because the city is almost broken an ass. You know racially so it's like here's here's. Where here's the numbers? where the numbers should be? And then you look at the inquiry? Look at silly magnets, eighty five percent white, and you're like that's not reporting Philadelphia that's reporting white people. Now. Do you feel it? That has something to do with black kids, not being into journalism and writing that just not they're not hiring is just. It's just not true yet. It's constantly this idea of like. Oh, we can't find any. We can't find any journalist, but it's just like it has something to do with the network. Right in has to do with nepotism. The fact that this person son is going to get hired It's the fact that right. Right there aren't clear like hiring guidelines right, so a lot of people will tell you like I didn't get my job through. You know hiring through jobs board I got it because I knew someone who knew somebody or as long as like. A lot of hiring is taking place that way. It's a problem I know. A lot of places are changing the way they're doing hiring, but I just do not buy the argument because we have huge organizations like. J. A. B.. J. That are like here. Look at all. These journalists that are here and it's a really just sad thing that it's just constantly. We can't find any and I. Honestly think it's we're not putting enough effort to create an environment that makes these kinds of journalists want to stay. That makes them want to stay in the industry. It was the same thing when I was. Was Teacher bright. It's the same thing where we don't have enough teachers of color. Especially, we don't have enough. Black men were teachers, but again right when you get to a certain place in your career. It's like you WANNA be. You want to feel valued in your profession, right? You WanNa feel like you're making a difference in sometimes in the classroom. You don't feel that way and so. Same thing the education system journalism just did not foster environment and networks that made Yep. These people with be skills kind of want to stay, and so for me with the fellowship program that we had right. We had a number of just really talented. Young people come through the program. It was just like really great to work with them, and sadly like looking at some of the fellowship programs like some stories that I've heard about other places in fully. That just these fellow sadly did not right. Get the mentorship that they needed. They didn't get the kind of like room to explore because again. People just come with those biases of like. This black reported us in. Have the training, so we're just GONNA have them. You know work on the homepage doing like production stuff, but not actually right. Oh, this person doesn't have enough experience to be on the investigations team, but yet right someone of the same age, but just because white like you automatically kind of in your head think they'd probably be better at doing this job And yet again don't think that's going to change until. New Leadership. Changes happened. We have like accountability systems to kind of measure the kind of change that that we wanna see. What did you? What was your class in Non Camden? What did you teach? So I taught English so basically language arts for three years. It was like. Being, a Camden was just an incredible experience, because I, think right, it's a city that people know it was like you know having one of the highest murder rates in the city, and then when you get there and I'm with my students, it's just like of course the violence is it's it's crazy. It's unbelievable, but at the same time right there. Students who care so much about the city who learn who want to be great in life, so it was really a really great experience, but at the same time I think. One of my biggest the biggest thing that I learned there is just how to kind of work with and support a nurture people who have experienced some serious trauma. 'cause I kid you not. I can say probably ever seen where my students had someone right knew someone in their family. Someone close to them who was shot? Someone who is our ED students who were just? The victims of some really serious like violence, sexual violence, physical violence, police, violence, gun violence, and it was that was a huge huge part of the experience of teaching it cabin for sure, but at the same time right just the joy of the city invincible like that kind of energy. Was Great. Yarmouth. They're kind of part of the model that some other cities letting it now in terms of policing, and what happens when you, when you kind of go to a community version of policing versus a you know, put the riot gear and on, and just start cracking heads, which is. Unfortunately what we saw in this what we saw in Philadelphia up literally cracking. Guess. What what's your? What's your? That's no baloney that happened. All Right? What's your hope coming out of this? You know I mean both with. The last three months and who knows how much into the future. In this sort of transformative time that's going to swing one way or the other probably bunch. What's your hope? What's the hopeful side of you? Say will come out of what we've just gone through. I think it's definitely the language that people now have right stuff like saying anti-racists just the language of Def-, on the police just even braces on lake just so many of just getting people to say slavery was. Like maybe even a couple of years ago, people would say. Why are we even talking about slavery like that and so long ago? Like L. Obsessed with slavery? You're obsessed with your race, but it's like no this up is forced upon us like we need to recognize distinct the the language that's being shared right now. People learning how to talk about these things. Things is just really really powerful because I feel like there's a time especially right as a black reporter where you feel like you're the only one in the room who understands what you know. What defined the police means or abolish the system or systemic racism to stuff like that just not basic knowledge of language is important and then keep committing to. Being on this journey to actively fight right because again, people looked at it like Oh, that's a black thing. That's something that black people have to figure out, but now white people accepting this as like. Wow, this is my problem to fix that to me is like really what's GonNa? Keep this going hopefully right and moving past the election. I love the you have groups of white people who say slavery is a hundred fifty years ago, and some of those people are defending a statue from a guy from five hundred years ago. Cow. Even better, those people are saying. Why don't you get over slavery underwriting? And then they put their confederate hat on and they. Pick up truck. That's got a confederate flag on the back. Believable. South and then you have people that are. Nine eleven terrible, but I never forget nine eleven. You never forget what the never forget. Pearl Harbor like like. The idea that. That should was so. Atrocious and so fucking. Vile in horrible debt like. We're supposed to take that and not remember it, but you can remember every horrible thing that has happened in this country besides that now. Yeah I mean it's. It's fascinating. 'cause my sister lives in Richmond. Richmond is a city that's gotten much more progressive in the in the past couple of decades, but it's known for its main strip is known for having all of these confederate statues, Right Monument Avenue. It's the it's like the nice part of town and they tried to put up on Arthur ash that you. Maybe twenty years ago, and it was a huge controversy, and at the end they had to make the Arthur. Ashe statue face a different direction than the confederate. Yeah? So look at him as a statue So the fact that now that looks like they're actually going to remove those statues. You know for me. You know I'm originally from Virginia February, but like for me. It's like thank God like how how awesome is this? That might lifetime I get to see this Abbas 'cause like. Anybody that's any you know. That's not doesn't hold onto that confederate thing. and I don't know why you would I mean. Why do you know like your fucking racist? We lost the fight. Guys like you know. Let's. Let's move on here, but like you know it's. It's just been clung to for so long and just the hope that those things come down and in my son's lifetime. If we go visit my sister, that's not something we drive fast, and it's not something he thinks about. He's not like who those guys fuck. Those guys Fuck Property Lee. You know like I. You know. He was Nassau like you know. It's it's you know I. Hope that you know statue or statues, and and and you don't WanNa get too caught up in that whole thing but by. You know hopefully coming out of this. We can finally move past. What happened one hundred sixty years ago? When it comes to the confederacy, because otherwise we're headed for civil war to hit Oh this time. It's personal it like. At some point, it's like we got to. We've gotta move past this or just got. We gotTA finish. We gotta go back to the fight. Like what are we doing? We're just like passively aggressively handing this whole thing down generation to generation I don't know it's just like it's just frustrating. That keeps rearing its ugly ad and I'm hopeful that the fact that now I feel like there. Is this domino effect or like? You know even like the SEC was like we're not gonNA have. We're not gonNA Championships if Mississippi. Doesn't change its flag. You know like that's. You Know I. Don't get too caught up in corporate activism, but. Know, but like at that level I'm like okay good. Like, it's time it's. It's free I'm let's let's come to. Cut It here. You know what else is time for the block. Blunt all right, let's do it, we're GONNA go rapid fire, classy note the bluntness I don't unlike. Good listen to one of our broadcasts. and. Hey it hurt offense. You only knew she was going to appear here like six hours. Philly magazine. Even since the right fucking. You would think professionals like ourselves reached out two weeks ago. On. On behalf, I apologize. For Where are you most excited to give her the rules? Rapid fire answers were just GONNA go quickly. Where are you most excited to go back out to eat once? Things are better norm. I am obsessed with point in Philly. Enjoy in center city. Pork belly and. Hot Dogs and stuff. You said that you will come from A. Family Haitian background. They stared stereotypically super over What sort of looking for? Over. I'm not, saying anything have no. On like You know overprotective. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely grown up to super sheltered. Haitian friends. They see their parents were like. PSYCHOS! Couldn't go to sleep overs, but it hang out, but now like on an adult. They can't touch me. I will not call your parents, psychos and issue with is what does Philly do better the Brooklyn Oh? What does Philly do? But I think Philly is better at being real being greedy like there's just something about philly where I feel like people just don't try too hard and sadly when I think about Brooklyn. I think about just the new folks that are in there, just the gentrification, and so for me in Brooklyn I'm like Oh, where can I go right now but I still feel like in Philly there are places where I'm like I. Feel comfortable right in their places in Philly that remind me of that old Brooklyn that I really miss. What Song makes you WanNa Dance Woo. Tough, one! Because there are so many. Trying to think of something recent. Or you know what I'm really into Berta boy right now, so anything off of just just. Afro Beats Anything I'm just like super into right now. Who someone that is you would love to interview. I looked interview Britney. I'm so. She's a feminist. She recently wrote a book called elegant rage, and so she just talks about the role of black women. In the movement, and just yeah, just how like the movement Mary not be continuing to kind of erased the stories of black women who are victims of police brutality, no this. so I think you went to Murray, BERTRAM HOW HIGH SCHOOL ERECT! Q tip and fife dog winter, so are you. Are you team tribe or team routes? Oh, that's hard I mean because I was obsessed with it because he wants Bertram side. Say Team Dr Vanowen Person. least favorite subject in school. Oh so burcham was a school that had like it was focused on business careers, so we dislike the most random stuff like keyboarding classes and life. So I I was I took a lot of accounting classes, so I was not a fan, but I had to take those. I'm noticing the rain. Yes. They are. into drinks on these fingers. He removed. What one word would Ms Coleman? Use to describe you. Oh! Maybe Feisty. Feisty thinking about the relationship that we had. Eager to learn but feisty. What what have you been binge watching? ooh! I mean finish insecure with the season that happened so had enough. That's vange. Bein binge killing eve recently. Huge Fan about on BBC. Always everyone on the show. Give us a short quick bursts on your take. Best advice long relationships not just loved ones, but like relationships in general holiday work. Yeah I they work by communications and IT's something that I've struggled with right so. I'm sorry I'll text EVAC. Key just say what you made an talk it out as best as you can. Did you know you have a full-time gig advice before you start at the thread on twitter Buffalo Imac yeah I was already working. Nice. Yes, that was like that. What one word would describe your sense of Humor Oh? I'd say it's. It's good good timing so timing timely timely. What Book Are you reading right now that you recommend for all of us or have read. The I'm reading a book called Wayward lives and beautiful experiments by CD of Hartman. Who's a professor at Columbia and civically looking at? Black Women in the early twentieth century, so just kind of like their lives. You know trying to get established in major cities, so she specifically looks like Philadelphia new. York, and she talks about their sex lives their romantic lives. Just like what they do party and I just feel like it's such a fun like part of this not fun part, but like just a part that's like neglected right just the kind of things that these women were doing to fight against the conditions that they lived in. I notice and I appreciate that quaker gear. Yeah, give us a One redeeming thing about Penn.. A. Property! They have a lot of our now I think. This is tough, because obviously as I went to Penn for Grad, school I got my master's there in education, and so I just think the scholarship kind of community that has been able to foster so I've gone back for a lot of alumni events, so it's like John Legend. was there one time to like? Do a concert since he's alarm and that was great I think their presence in Philadelphia with a lot of like development has been helpful, but at the same time. Just there's right the negative sides, the development and expansion that they've done in West philly and just this Dalgleish went of university city. but at the state right there are pros and cons What's? What's are what's what's our social worship? People find? What should they? Should they love yes? Oh I on Instagram, not on twitter at Fabio Citius. Instagram it's. The same thing, but I'm an instant lurker, so I don't really use it like shock, and like see what people, but it's something. I need to work on my eye. Shop on Instagram Oh yeah. That's where I shop. So many. Yeah, just click a button type stuff. All right well. Thank you so much Fabio. We appreciate it. Thank you. Keep up the good work. Yeah, absolutely appreciate that. SAFE keeping. On brainwork. Having! Joe Welcome to the home of brotherly love from. Blood, the mayor's office in bugs creams cut short Switzerland.

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Making A New Choice?

"Welcome to highly questionable id. Goodyear is maybe in somebody else's house my go junior. Also maybe somebody else's house. let's do television with burgers. Does jimmy g. to the patriots trade make sense. Oh you gotta say given a cash. Shanahan is basically spent his entire life around the nfl and his dad was a head coach. It's really crazy. What an amateur. He looked like in this press conference yesterday where he said that even though the forty niners traded up to number three in a draft where we know who wanted to were going to be he traded up to get one guy but now he likes five guys and they think they know who they're gonna take but they're not what gender any confidence whatsoever. If you're jimmy garoppolo agenda even less confidence in you and this is even after they traded up to get your replacement. I can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive sunday. So i can't guarantee who will be on rosser on sunday so that goes for all of us. Y'all dude that is dark we can start with that part of it also. I don't know what he was supposed to say. They're he probably just shouldn't have set it like that because you can't promise the garoppolo is going to be there because there's a big old for sale sign on him because again you're going to draft his replacement. Peter king raise the question as to whether or not the patriots would be the team to train jimmy garoppolo but seems like an obvious move because he used to play for them except jimmy. Garoppolo is twenty nine years old has had one good season in the nfl. Where is all this fate that everybody has in him. Even the people who like him would have to agree. Whatever success he's had in san francisco had a whole lot to do with everything that was surrounded gipp display last year. What nothing surrounding. Nothing they went and got a couple of tight ends in the free agency. Good for them. But is jimmy garoppolo the answer for them. I cannot see how nobody you mentioned the people who like them and unfortunately new england is one of the teams the original team that really liked him and made him this coveted prospect because bill bell had all these rumors that they thought they'd finally found the air parents for tom brady. But i think that's all going to depend on the price there if the patriots are team. That's not going to trade up in the draft. We know good dam. Sure their model. Is you know for us. You get paid somewhere else. Can we get you back for less than we let you go for and so that could start to fit into this. I do appreciate the larger portion of this quote about jimmy garoppolo how they want him for being a team guy and being an all this zoom meetings in the offseason program. That like he's got a choice is like. I'm sorry unless you're tom brady. Are aaron rodgers one of these dudes. We'll listen to you. Then but jimmy garoppolo. At least i will applaud him for having the self awareness to note. I am not that dude. And so i need to make sure that everybody likes having me around in case it doesn't work out with this job. So let's play this out okay. So they traded for jimmy garoppolo for a second round pick essentially right. They signed him to an extension. Okay and then. They go to the situation where they don't trust him because of his health and they draft. I don't know. Let's say. Mac jones here and they trade him to the patriots basically for a second round pick so they get back what they got. If i'm a forty niners player. Like george kittle. Who responded to that quote by saying. Hey i'll text you on thursday. If i'm alive which makes me wonder if he actually thinks it's funny or if he's being a smart but you got to think that the players are wondering what are we doing here because there's a ton of questions about mag jones a ton of questions about trae lands if they were to draft him and really get much of anything out of the jimmy garoppolo experience. It's going to be pretty clear that they're making sort of mind head-scratching decisions and it doesn't help when you perform like this in a press conference i don't understand what the idea of blowing smoke in this situation that benefits you know. Who's going one to you and your quarterback you obviously don't care about his feelings. You're basically telling him you're drafting replacement so might as well. Just tell us who you got because all this makes no sense. As far as i can tell there is literally one person who thinks that mac jones the guy that should go number three in this draft and that one person seems to be kyle shanahan who is the boss of everything was still works with other people and you can't help but think but everybody else is walking around. They're like dude when the world is he talking about john lynch it kind of put it out there like. Hey i make the pitch. But we're gonna get kyle the guy. The he thinks fits best for him. Which means cow shanahan's the one that's making this pick and lit What anybody else make this move. I have raised before an hour. Raise it again. You know who. I don't think we'll take mack jones over justin fields nick sabin. That's who is it the right time. For the falcons to trade. Julio jones terrified knows the new general manager for the foul because they did their pre-draft press conference yesterday and the question was broached. Bellwether not might be interested in trading. Julio jones and the falcons in close the door on that idea they left it. Good opening. I mean why. Not trade. Julio jones becomes the question i understand this. He's probably going to be hall of famer. He's one of the great players in the history of the franchise is thirty. Two years old is do big body and he played nine games last year. The question comes down to do you. Think the falcons can be a legitimate contender this year. If everything breaks right. And i just can't they make the playoffs. Can they contend for super bowl. Because if they can't. You can't assume julio jones is gonna get better you can't assume that matt ryan at thirty five is going to get better. It might be time to look at the future. Which reminds me if there's a quarterback worth taking at four in the falcons pass on it that is malpractice. It is about time for theresa trade. Julio jones wouldn't be the worst idea sometimes you gotta bet on the idea that the dude. That's getting older is not a dude is going to get better. This gives me faith that there's some sort of honesty and genuine nature or actually just some sanity in football. At least when you compare it to the san francisco forty niners situation because no four in twelve team should not be considered a potential title contender the following year. Not with major upgrades right. So if you're drafting number four there's a reason for it and if there's an opportunity to move forward from a quarterback who had the sixteenth best. Qbr which is right. Smack dab in the middle probably isn't working his way back up then. You probably want to do that. Like i don't understand the idea if you wanna get kyle pits and give it one more go with ridley and jones and pits and say. Hey even matt ryan's gonna look better than average with that trio put you know you could. Always say hey. Let me get the young stud. Who in two years is going to be super bowl ready. We'll have the right direction. And maybe we can move on from. Julio jones at thirty two years old and still get something valuable back from him. So yes this makes all the sense of the world if fought no would have come out and said nope. I think we're close to a super bowl. And i would have said you got a fire this guy immediately and just blow up the whole organization yet. No i don't think they in good faith say anything even close to that puts. this seems to be about. How much change. The falcons are willing to tolerate right now for a lot of atlanta fans. It might seem like identity change. Julio jones like mani said is someone who's really beloved down. There is given a lot of that organization. But to me all winston financially darren cap hell and they just move money around with matt ryan for the next couple of years. So they've kind of indicated right. We know what the bank says about how. We've gotta treat this position. That's why i keep looking at four and thinking. Kyle feels like the right amount of transition if you wanna deal julio jones you've got another space alien that stepping in albeit a slightly different role you can start to. I think it would relieve about fifteen million dollars against the cat this year. You can start to bankroll that towards the future. But matt ryan that number to me is too big to take a quarterback potentially let him sift through to really valuable years of a rookie contract. This team is probably still not going to be great. I don't think you're losing too much. Opportunity costs passing on a quarterback here at four knowing the trajectory of team. For all the reasons we mentioned and drafting would definitely soften the blow of losing julio jones. When you've got a big body who can play opposite of ridley or even at the tight end position probably even made him play him a little bit at the wide receiver position. So i could see that sort of softening the transition some more than going to harsh way of saying. Hey we're gonna take this quarterback and matt ryan you're just going to be a lame duck for the next couple of years but i mean it's football kind of a harsh place. They did it to aaron rodgers. I don't know why matt ryan is above it what we are seeing. How complicated. That's about to get for green bay. Because i saw jordan love trending with trade destination betting options being on the table. And it's not say ryan's gonna go out here and give you a twenty eighteen or twenty clock twenty. Excuse me aaron rodgers. nbc's in these situations can get murky. If you miss time to jump they did to brett farve. I'm just saying they do it too literally. Everybody they kinda did it to peyton manning. They did it to tom. Brady they do it every body. How should kevin. Love's teammates feel that him. Today will look when the cavaliers in this year's raptors wind up in a block of our television show. It's not because something good happen. I get a look at kevin. Love just hustle. What is kevin laguna. Just he's just watching. He's just watching. And i think he was batting it like like batting it down to grab it. A controller shuts off in k. Yeah i don't think i've ever seen anything quite like that on an nba court and love apparently has apologized to the team. The cavs say that they're going to be able to move on and all of this stuff but he is inclined toward a measure of petulance. Remind this is the do thirteen year in the nba. He is also someone who has told us about some of the struggles that he's had with mental health. But in the end you gotta be reliable. No matter what the circumstances are one thing you should be able to rely on a guy for is that he's not going to literally quit in the middle of the game and that's what happened right. They're glad you mentioned the stuff about his mental health that he has been so vocal about and been a very supported about. And so you know you just don't know whether that factors into how he can deal with this long extended losing and everything else. But i'm not going to create excuses for him. You have to be the veteran. You sign the five year extension to be part of this rebuild. You have to be the guy that people look at as a veteran there at somebody that they can follow. You mentioned the petulance bomani. He had a little while ago. Where you had the chest pass that was clearly mocking his teammates for not passing the ball and running the offense and this wild if you look at it and really break it down. It was active frustration. That he batted. He thought his teammate was going to position to get that and yet that batted ball and he did it at that point though. That's when you have to be the grownup and say okay. I screwed up. Let me continue and at least try to play hard. When he's continuing the act here. That is an even worse one and probably a suspended defense for actions detrimental to the team. But i don't know if an apology is enough to his teammates. I think it's been consistent enough for his for the last few years where they've been losing where he is not a great teammate. To have and he is not somebody that you definitely want to follow here. So cleveland definitely has an issue on. It's tough when you see that. A guy who was a championship a guy who has been in the top five in. Mvp has been basically an all. The roles in the nba can't be happy. We're at least be happy about or helpful to his young teammates. It's really frustrating to watch. I don't know if we've ever seen over over it so easily personified and so clearly personify one player's actions and i don't know if the rest of the team really likes him or if they all realize resume wise. They can't step to him. But i was amazed a listen after the game in a league. Players are usually pretty vocal to everyone. Treats this incident like john cena like no one was really giving it a lot of time air or fuel war in the game conversation around this. Yeah it's inexcusable from a team standpoint. I did it the frustration. i'm also not going to go super far in the other direction. Like i see the articles. All the wailing and gnashing of teeth about this like this is also a guy that's in this situation in the middle of this game we're talking about. He's getting beat up. Seem to have a lot more to do with the ramps than almost anything else going on with their team. But they're almost in one-two-three cancun mode. I just couldn't help but see this through the lens of that bad girls club tick tock movement. Were everyone's looking around here like listen. You signed up for all this one. You gotta And he's like a really. You don't like the way this is going. I worked for this team. This is not a great time for your boy right here. So yes. I signed up to get paid and play basketball. I didn't sign up to give molly walkaway. We've been through. The course of this sees a lot of guys have been put in bad situations brad. Bill at the beginning of this year could have wind as loud as he wanted to and people were supporting him if he did wind and what did he do made the best out of it and now they're looking like one of those playing teams in the east. I'm not saying that the cavaliers could have been something but this hasn't been a long enough stretch remember. He missed a lot of time a couple years ago. It hasn't been a long enough stretch of this must frustration after winning a championship where you can act like this and just get away with it with the weirdest thing is kind of touched on it. There he still plays for them like he is a bit outside. Like brad beal. Who's a better player in a situation like that. That either has not gotten himself out or his team does not want him out bad enough to make it happen like brad beal at least selling tickets anybody paying no money to see kevin love. How in the world is he still on that team up next on each. Hq when you see like more euro ages realize oh they just can't catch right hits dead interface. They just smile and laugh at all. Because you don't what hard enough to hurdle and you realize. Oh wait they just can't catch do you own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know it's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your home owners renters insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com question. The timbers earned this victory over the jazz choked yo. The jimbo got all the show with his. Nigeria's anthony edwards. Did some funny anyway. Check this out down the end of the game here. Jim was jazz. Yeah yeah yeah. That's a bad play there. I mean that right there. You see to go bear. Jump out to the perimeter. Karl anthony towns that right. There is exactly why nobody's afraid of the utah jazz. Because they feel like they can scheme around rudy gobert. Especially if he's going to do things like that but the funniest thing i saw about this game winner from de ngelo russell. I think it was bleacher report. Who said the game winner and had a little snowflake on the end like if it was cold. That wasn't cold. That was a layup of a blown. Defensive covers that would catch one too. I mean if he misses this he's going to be checked in a full for the rest of his life. This is just a gimme. come on. It wasn't that was that was not dane. John no i just wanna cut somewhere with the camera. To ben simmons full birdman dot gift just rubbing his hands together going. Oh that's that's your defensive player of the year got that do you question this. Five year old was assisted or betrayed by the person who is watching this australian football game with all. They told us that was australian rules. Football to four brief moment a that question. I thought he was going to tell me that. They five-year-old's play this stuff. Here we go oh ban gotta say that's terrible parroting all the way around. You didn't teach him how to cats and then you put them up there knowing that he can cats two times a terrible parenting right there as apparent all you can do is create opportunities for your to then you find out in those moments whether they got it or not. They learned an early age and probably save themselves a lot of money that maybe that kids future isn't something other than sport. I feel pretty confident that there were other times. That would have made them aware that this kid you catch. This is one of those things either. You got it or you. Don't man. I guess when you see four euro age just realized oh they just can't catch right ball hits some dead interface. They smile and laugh at offers. You don't do it hard enough hurdle and you realize oh wait. They just can't catch and there we go. He'll yeah here. We go already in the base that the part about this that we don't talk nearly enough about is horrible. Shot by dad. You're supposed to be trying to get a goal right. He's so bad at this that he kicked it dead into the goalie that happened to be his see. I thought you were gonna say was a celebratory spin. Move in the wu. Even after seeing his son get hit in the face with as the under a part of this tonight at seven ten pm eastern as in raise as a thirteen game winning streak not that long ago which is when i learned it. Been good for like three or four years now. Who knew anyway. Let's go elvis andrus. Come to the plate comes after the first pitch skies here we got there. We go sorry realize we were going to get all the way around before his base here we go okay so he's called out and go to review on this one number of us out of me. Yeah again. what size television or they look at these reviews all because it just feels like they should be able to do a better job. Somebody's right is you entry. I am i. I watched that replay so close like ten times over and you could make an argument that maybe the depth that angle of the depth. You couldn't really see win the tag on there but that's the stuff that drives me about these replacements when we've got a little bit too far. I'm of the opinion that if it's seriously close where if there's like dust by the plate or you can't tell if he touched his shirt you just gotta go with what the call was on the field and this wasn't so egregious where i'm just like all this game should be overturned or they should know just okay with a close call. Let's move on. I know i'm not intrigued. I think major league baseball needs to do the right thing here. Because these instances replay have been coming up a lot so just somehow find a way to shift the focus. Back to dodgers padres. It's like the one universal in major league baseball right now so when in doubt just give us another one of those games stop making play other teams and focus on a maximize but one good thing. You got terrible. Call but that ted tease about that kim tonight at nine forty pm eastern padres and check this out from the diamondbacks. They gotta right fielder. Name kole calhoun now. This looks like a ball that he could catch. Gotta go right young man. Got them right there. There's pound and i understand why calhoun did not catch that. That young man who wanted his name cordell halfway air. Calhoun found that. There's like wait what you just got a little bit distracted. He had to catch up by the time he caught up. Go ahead the button. Is you agree. I don't think that's true at all. Bow no. Yeah a little bit. Look i've calhoun got a lot of praise for like smiling and you know give them the fist-bump and everything else. But what else does he supposed to supposed to pull them. Boys blue and just lose his bleep in just ruined his kid's life. You know it. Just like i can't believe i did that. I mean come on. That's a proper reaction. I mean it was a whole fan. Who did it to do. Not you know the other teams people. Now goal of you agree. I just appreciate that. Our newfound court l. had the foresight here to take advantage of the fact. Powerless wasn't gonna do anything so he gave them a little ball. Sled begin laugh mistakes him and his mom. It looks like a great time for them fully understanding our they will yeah. I would not recommend leading so hard on those kinds of assumptions by the way. We haven't had a new album bill in quite a while but we might all right. That is our show. Check out gutierrez all week here on highly questionable. My goal at four to seven eastern. Espn radio janie. Angolan and check out the right time. Vermoti jones where. I reach podcasts. There we go love. Somebody adds that you're supposed to do you own or rent your home. 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Instant Reaction: Shanahan and Lynch speak days before the draft

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Instant Reaction: Shanahan and Lynch speak days before the draft

"Everybody welcome to a special edition of stats and eggs. And i am not solo. This morning kind of a different stats in exile. Posey's here what up. Kp man how are you doing what's going on what's going on is john lynch. Akao shanahan spoke yesterday and whatever you want to think about who. They're taking it three. You can think that even more strongly now the only thing we know for sure is there is no chance in hell. Jimmy garoppolo is going to be the starting quarterback for the forty niners next year. He was never coming back. They traded multiple picks for him. Why are we still dancing around this. And if you are still gullible. And i don't wanna be rude and say dan so i will say gullible enough to think that jimmy is coming back. Look at the words. Look at the emphasis. That kyle shanahan during that press conference because he all but came out and said i cannot stand this dude. It was very very obvious. Was that almost over the top overwhelming for you. When asked if he could guarantee the jimmy garoppolo is gonna be on the roster on sunday cow. Shanahan's exact response was. I can't guarantee that anyone on the planet is going to be alive on sunday. Like i don't know if he's gonna trade jimmy garoppolo or murder jimmy garoppolo. He does not like that guy. So i don't know what jimmy has done over the past since the season ended but things seemed to have gotten much much worse so i mean. Obviously you're going to hear a lot of rumors and stuff but it is evident that the relationship is too far gone. Like there's no coming back from that that's that was my main takeaway. Ooh we know we don't know who they're going to take because every time you were asked. The question was asked a question. It came back to five guys like he wasn't getting any sort of clue about who is clued in on but it made. It seem like he would take those five draft eligible eligible quarterbacks over jimmy g. that's the crazy ping is that he seems so fed up he was like. Hey i think we can win with any of those guys. But i know we can't win with that guy. And how many times during the press conference did he say. The words starting quarterback he literally said we felt. We needed to get a starting quarterback this year and add that to our team like he made. They're not hiding it. This person whoever they're taking is starting. Kyle said it about six times in a press conference that lasted thirty minutes. That would have been a dangerous drinking game whenever it kyle said. The words starting quarterback because he wasn't just saying he was letting us know he was telling us we did this today. Starting quarterback he is telling us what he's doing so we don't have to pretend anymore. I think it's fascinating a now. You know we're getting more and more rumors and not just rumors really because they're all saying the same thang these reports that are coming out. They're essentially saying it could be this guy. It might be this guy but don't rule out this guy. Nobody is saying anything. There's no new information that is coming out. Everything keeps coming back to matt jones with little bit of trae lance which makes me think it has to be justin fields right. Because that's usually what it is. Kyle said you wanna find a guy can throw. I drew brees and move like lamar jackson. So like that might be lance. That might be fields. But it ain't mack jones. Nobody's confusing mag jones for lamar jackson so like again. Whatever you wanted to think going into this. I think you can find a quote that supports your opinion but to me. I don't think it's mac jones. Yeah i don't think he says if he felt strongly about mack jones. And we've seen even on monday adam. Schefter came out irebi. Came out there telling us that. Kyle shanahan himself. Not the forty. Niners are very very high on mag jones if kyle shanahan was very high on my jones he wouldn't mitch in the word lamar jackson and for whatever reason this keeps getting confused because i tweeted out. A video of justin feels making plays over thirty five yards and somebody responded well. Mack jones could do that. Did you ignore the part where there's three runs in there where he's running for over thirty five yards. Jones ran for thirty five yards in his life. Like come on. What are we doing here again. All the signs have been so obvious. I feel like slowly. But surely we're going to get there and the other frustrating thing for me and i don't know why the media keeps trying to get john lynch to say this publicly they keep asking well. Who's decision is it. An lynch gave the answer today. Well he said the kyle shanahan the playcaller. So i'm going to always defer to him like no shit you're deferring to him. We know that it's in the contract. Kyle shanahan hired john lynch. We know this. John lynch has said it. How shannon has said it. You really think the kashan and hired john lynch and then all of a sudden he's gonna let john lynch pick his starting quarterback like oh. It's kyle's call period. We could have gotten a lot more callers questions during that presser but it all came back to. Who's in charge which has been answered twenty times by now. It's very evident that this is this is the san francisco. Shanahan's this is not john lynch team. We know this. Why are you even wasting our time on it. And he and every time they asked this question he says the same thing. He's not ashamed to admit he knows who has the keys to the car. But i mean we could've asked you know what they wanna do about possibly trading up because they have eighty four guys on the roster. They have more than six picks. So common sense says they're going to trade up. We didn't get a chance to ask about that or essentially any other position other than tell us who the pick is or is jimmy going to be here. We know they're not gonna give us any insight about the pick and we know jimmy's gone. Just a waste of time is what i felt like that was i liked the quote and this is someone who doesn't want mac john's this quote scared me. I believe it was kyle. That said this is what we do for a living. It's up to us to live with the consequences to me that same kind of being like i'm not listening to forty niners twitter. I'm not listening to anything. Anybody says we're picking the guy that we think is best because we've had are no so the grindstone. We've been down in the dirt with this thing. Since the whole thing began we're picking our guy screw everybody else. Ya has a burner. He is on twitter. Do not because that's how i took. It is like he said after. I get on social media after wins and after losses. Any did have a good point where everything is inflated. So when you are reading these rumors because as we get closer to the draft. They are only going to get worse. It's only going to get more nauseating nobody knows. And that is the only thing that matters right now. We're not going to know unless they come out the night before and say well. The forty niners are gonna draft so so until then. It's just. I'm hearing this. I'm an that from third and fourth hand information with nobody knows and there's a lot of people saying well the niners said they were comfortable with one guy but now they're open other so they shouldn't a traded up so the niners are saying whatever they feel like they need to say to not tell you who the pick is at three. They don't care if you think that they traded up too early. They don't care about all that stuff they don't care about all this prejudgment that's going on right now. All they care about is putting in the time to make the pick and getting their guy. Because i think correctly kyle if they get it right none of it matters all this stuff goes away. The extra rounds. Don't matter because look at houston look at kansas city. Even the bill like every team that has the teams that have had a successful trade up. They're not missing those picks. I thought it was interesting. When john lynch brought up that it doesn't do them any good to tell us who they want because they're working with other teams and kashan and also said we know we we trust those are teams like working with them so if they were to tell us we wanna take. Let's say it's trae lance would if there's another team who is in love with trae lance and they're going to jump the forty niners try to give him up random because that is who they want we made. It's and also brought up the fact that you know if there's no if you like a guy at three if the fans like twelve. There's no reason you should like him at three. Because he made it sound like the value talking about value in that sense. So if he's thinking that you have to imagine most. Nfl teams are thinking like that so it just doesn't no good. It does not behoove them to share that information. Yes it's going to be frustrating that we're going to have to wait until thursday but i mean it's the nfl they're going to keep it secret. They've been tight lipped about this pick. So there's no reason that they're going to change that a couple of days before one of the things that made me nervous as a forty niner. Fan is the way that john lynch kind of opened the press conference with his seasons of love style like rant. We've watched one hundred seventy six college games and practices conducted. Four hundred zoom calls interviewed six hundred players like that to me is them wanting to avoid the crap storm that came when kyle admitted they didn't scout patrick mahomes and they didn't scout the shawn watson very closely because they thought they were getting cousins. Whoever they pick they're trying to put the kabosh on that thinking and tell you just how deeply they dove into all these guys. Which at first i was like. Oh no does that mean. It's mac jones because they don't wanna hear that crap that they heard in two thousand seventeen. That's a great point. And i don't think anybody i've i don't think i've seen anybody bring that up. So what they're telling us is. Were uncovering every song. We are turning everything over. We watched him whether it's at alabama their it's alabama a and m tech. We watch that player so do not give us any crap. What is next for the forty niners now. Do we just wait or what happens raw. Yeah i mean honestly like. I thought that they were going to trade jim. The news of the jimmy trade was going to break. And that's why kyle had joined the press conference yesterday because that's what happened with with the trade up to number three is all of a sudden. The forty niners weren't speaking that band. There's a press conference scheduled and then like hours later a day later. Whatever it was. We got news that they were trading up to the next domino to me. That's gonna fall is. Jimmy's getting moved and based on. Kyle's comments today. I wouldn't be totally stunned if he got moved before the end of the first round Kyle all but traded him during this press conference. I feel like that will take away because it's going it's now it's only a matter of win. Are they going to be able to flip jimmy before the first round and use maybe another pick to move back into the first round or they're going to have to settle for future picks and not use those next year either way it's a benefit. Imagine he just said he's missed two of the last three years and there are more than likely going to get not one but two day two picks for player who has missed that significant time. They're going to be able to flip those picks and maybe get a starter this year if not they can use an extra second and third next year when they don't have a first round so it's been an amazing off season if they are able to flip jimmy for those extra picks Icing on the cake. If they if it somehow they managed to swing a conditional first round pick next year then in theory that means the forty niners could have gotten their franchise quarterback and gotten on first round. Pick back in return in addition to that like granted. Now everything has to break right for that to happen. That's those are two huge shifts but like holy hell how many teams can say they had to trade up to number three to get their franchise guy and also ended up with an extra first round. Pick yet nobody is the answer because look around. That just doesn't really happen in most scenarios. The quarterback that they would be trading like they would have to release him. Or they're not getting anywhere near this type of compensation so you have to really give a roundup and we never really talk hype up the forty niners station like most other sites do but the way that everything is unfolding right now they have just had a heck of an off season and just a one more move to make but again you know they can do whether whoever the quarterback is. We're going to have to watch play out. But i think the more fascinating part is to see where they go after this because they can have. They have a chance to add three to four players. Who can really help them right away and just transformed their team. I think that really looking at this year's draft as the cherry on top of the sunday. I think they really think they can put the finishing touches on what they see as a super bowl roster i know people like to get on me all the sp nation and host. The nfl is like say. I'm crazy because i think the niners can make a super bowl run with a rookie quarterback. But i think if you ask john lynch and kyle shanahan they would tell you the same thing if they can add the other pieces around him and obviously if they make the right choice at three. I think that's how they view this year. Absolutely so they do have a strong roster and john lewis did mention that you look at the depth chart there aren't many holes on the roster so if they really just feel cornerback wide receiver and add a pass. Rusher and those guys. All of those guys don't have to come in here and be number one guys. There are essentially either afterthoughts or can be groomed into a starting role that way after the one year deals are up next year. For a lot of these guys they can just fall into a starter so Everything that the way that they played this offseason just seemed i imagine. It has gone to perfection from their end like. I'm sure that they wanted one. Free agent that they weren't able at their hands on me. You can say that for any team so you have to really be happy for them if you are a forty niners fan at least right now. I'm sure you know if it has mack. Jones people are gonna tear their hair out and not care about what else happens. But it's all about the process and that's we have to respect. And that's the last thing i want to leave but i'm going to say this again and again and i'm sure i'll say it on thursday night. During the niners nation live draft show on the niners nation. Youtube page which everyone should definitely check out whoever they pick. We have no freaking idea. If this person can play. So it's mac. John's don't rip your hair out calling them idiots sane. How horrible it is until we see this dude on the field at least from april to september. Let's relax and just enjoy the fact that we have potentially a franchise quarterback because until then we have no clue what if it's matt jones. They're able to flip. Jimmy garoppolo they trade back into the first or a receiver falls in its shabaab. Menards devante smith who falls because he's one hundred and sixty six pounds. There's no way that you can be mad at mack jones if he has the person who got him drafted that high. So there's that you have to be able to respect the process and kind of see how this all plays out. I cannot wait. This is going to be a fascinating weekend. I imagine that we are going to have a lot of content for you. We will have it all for you. Make sure you stay locked in on. Niners nation dot com. We're going to be pumping out podcasts. In reaction to every single thing if something happens with the forty niners. I promise you. Kpi are going to be there with you. 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Ep 16 - Tru Starling - Don't Take Life To Seriously

Axing The Future

34:59 min | 11 months ago

Ep 16 - Tru Starling - Don't Take Life To Seriously

"Guys, I'M WELCOME TO EPISODE SIXTEEN BACK I'm your host accident whereas most of you guys probably nine, fifty six. In today's episode. WE'RE GONNA be hearing from true stalling. There's a professional south of sponsored by RIP. earn digital magazine about Yeltsin inspiring bells, and in recent article about truth started off with through stalling is a bundle of joy and she's such an amazing person and leave you with a smile on your face. I. Hope that's the case today. So yeah, welcome troy thank you. That article. Put a smile on my face. Was Pretty. Straight rating in and I'm yeah I'm so stoked to you know be chatting with you and yeah I'm looking forward to seeing while we'll be talking about this is awesome. Started talking five minutes ago. Feel like I've already some reason no new for ages but I am more in depth but for the listeners who don't know you, can you tell us about yourself? Yeah well. As you said is true I'm nineteen I'm from the northern beaches of Sydney I represent North Knob Rainbow Trout is club so. I'm an N. go Yes. I I don't know I being. So think since I was about twelve years old. So I, pretty late to the party on that whole setting saying before that the dance on and loved Sucker and just being outdoors I'm I'm pretty sports he and but you know right now I'm actually, as you said before I'm doing my sister and I have just started an online famous surf Mac Kodama Mac So we're doing that and you know Kinda just learning along the way which has been amazing and then on top of that I'm also doing a swot psychological says well. Not many people know that I'm doing that. So this is kind of only for me. So learning learning about the mind and how it works and it's been pretty incredible. Yeah I'm loving it. Nice. That sounds like a sounds really interesting digging a bit more about Moma Mag. So how does she come up with the idea and like what's the purpose of the magazine? Yeah, well so Pretty. Much more. So my sister and I when we can pay which up and down the coast and my dad will drive off in. Your head off in the. Bit of a road trip up to the Gulf coast or down to the story out when we were allowed to do that and. One I think it was maybe two years ago we were conceptualize the idea of an online female staff Mag because if you look in the Steph saying That there is actually quite a few but they don't actually. They content isn't It's not targeted to fame is not inspiring is pretty generic. So Jesse I decided Jesse's my still We were like you know what? We just WanNa do something that's interesting. It's empowering. It's educating and inspiring for famous whether they be a female. So fall or just a famous athlete in general because we want, we want to create the spice females in general whether I can feel like you know they can do whatever they want to do. So when we were coming up with the idea, we're GONNA K-. What what should we call it? How should you like the name per Maybe full weeks to come up with which isn't that long but it was like. Day. We would sit down and be like maybe this name I think we came out we like there was an ankle betty and then. I kinda those hates of other names but. Just kinda stuck and the reason behind it is so myrna like find as a slow continuous sound. And we will likely K. so. That's that's what we want. Women's of famous debate this slow but growing continuous sound of the famous coming through you know like. Going week we we're here. You can say us like done I've Lukasz, and then also the personal reason is among. Is actually a flock of starlings and alaw name is stalling. We, all Kinda ties in together on that front? But Yeah we just you know out. We WanNa have fun with it, and we won't pay to enjoy what we're what we're doing. You know what my sister's riding, what I'm writing when videos are we just WANNA in? Palley. Young female is or young female athletes in general to have the confidence to do whatever they want to do because like. You can you know yet it's Way Loving it and it's so much fun. On this sounds unbelievable. Southern little dig. Dug in a little bit over the last few days to have a look at magazine and it looks like even spied lots of people have you had anyone reach out and tell a story on how Moma has inspired gills. We haven't as yet I mean. It's not. It's probably more like. Face to face where that happens. You know there's lots of young female surface around the northern beaches and Jesse and what Surfing like we spent so much time in the water. It's crazy. So we're always seeing younger staffers is out and they always come up and they say, you know we love Menagian. What you're doing is amazing and you know this article really helped like I think my sister didn't article on. Bullying and that was probably like the turning point for us with paypal came off to the article and they will like. You don't understand how much we needed that. You know it was kind of about bullying and knowing your Woah and like standing up for yourself in the article, and there was people that reach out to my stop people that reached out to me and that was. The article helped me Chaumont you know so. Little. Things that we put up that you know someone might go. Wow. I actually needed that today. So yeah but like so many people we've got such good response from it and people wanting to do collaborations with us and it's kind of crazy because we've only got like eight hundred followers. It's just the beginnings and yet it's just it every week it's just growing and growing and growing, and it's just so exciting for Jesse to watch it grow and be a part of it, and you know help young girls be bigger and better and broader. Totally I love that does your long term vision for like in your. Yeah this. This is a question that Jesse and I have constantly kept asking ourselves because we will like is this just a passion project or is it something that maybe we can turn into income-based? I think longtime we would love to generate some profit from it but. Out Goal is to cave inspiring and educating and empowering and we want to. We want it to be big. You know we want to reach out to the laxative cursor and Steph, and be we want to get down to the nitty gritty details of what you've experienced as a female in the stuff industry because. Like now, it's completely different to how it was back when lane and Kiala Kennelly and stuff with campaigning it was quite There wasn't much equality in the women's right whereas now there's a prize money and this now there's equal events. So. It's amazing how how much it's growing but still in the water, there is still that sensitive mel dominance. And we want to. Try and turn that into the sense of you know like just because your man and just because you're strong up like physically stronger than us doesn't mean that we put up a fight doesn't make Dr Heels in and give it a as long as good as you you know so I think if If Waken in the future helped to empower young young women and young females whether they be surface. Oh dances or Jim Nestle whatever businesswoman whatever it is in some way if we can help empower them to really dig their heels in and fight for what they want. Then we've done our job the so some. So we're GONNA throw it back a bit to your childhood now, and what were you dreams you know growing up or as a kid. Yes well. My change always kind of fluctuated I voice I'm. I don't know I was always very Gulf I'm very goal any person. So if I don't have goals I'm Kinda Bowler. So. When I was a kid I. Tried all these different things? I tried piano I D- dancing for little bit soccer which I love saga had so much fun and possible I just dabbled in all these different sports but nothing ever really kind of stock. It was always yeah I really enjoy the Senate something that I lacked doing, but it was never something I. Would you know go do with my family on the weekends and then when my dad got me into surfing renounce around twelve? Instantly I was like this is what I wanNA. Do I just knew straight away I was like, yeah like I want to be a professional staff up. So I was in the water all the time out like begging my dad to take me at six o'clock in the morning dot com we have to go to the beach like let's go. Let's go. And Yeah, I think as soon as I got that first wave and as soon as I felt that It's kind of it's cheesy but. Only. A sophomore is a feeling like it's you know it's so crazy how much I can relate to that, and as soon as I like took off on my wife like yet like this is. This is my PA. This is what I have to do, and whether I become a competitive softball or saw fought like. That this is a pasta on hbo down something that I need to do he. So I don't know I never looked back from there and my dad's been like my mom as well. But my dad has been one of my biggest supporters you know he's with me in events. He calls me like if he's not with me if I say something, he'll call me and say. You got this and he's started supported in highs and the lows and yeah I think. If I didn't like looking back. If I didn't have surfing I don't know where I'd be right now like it just my. Like it's at my coal right now you know it's something that the ocean I can just go in and wash off all my emotions or yet get out of my energy which I have a lot of so yeah. I was. I feel very lucky to be doing what I'm doing and as a child as a child I was always like. I want to be seeing out or an actor rule like. A firefighter or something like that but now I'm like nor like. I still enjoy. Dancing around with my friends or whatever that is but this is what I have to do, and this is for some reason. This is the part that I'm on and whether I be professional if I become a steph commentator or if I run this magazine and helps empower more women like. Yes, surfing it's yeah. It's it's taken of my life and for good reason. So. Awesome. So I'm currently twelve years old and I. Guess That's when you kind of started getting into surfing. If you go back to talk to your twelve year old self, what advice would you give to awhile ago? twelve-year-old true. I'd say. Take a breath before you make. Rash decisions. but have fun like. Sometimes. I don't know I think everyone does sometimes people take life too seriously. So I would say to myself like twelve year old true like. Have Fun while doing it. You know if you're at an event Gore, hang out with your friends go have fun and I'm kind of space now where I'm starting to do that more, not basically like focused and dead set on winning you know whereas like that are still on very much like that but you also have to have a life outside of that. So I'd say the twelve year old true like. Breeze have fun like. And make sure you have other passions as well. Because you know you gotTa have something else to fall back on if for some reason. Being Professional Cepheid is the road that you end up going. You know. So have other things that you wanna do and smile more and be proud of yourself. Yeah. Definitely and trust the process. Trust. The process. That's awesome. So you obviously talk you know you wanted to be a PERSA thaw. From what I've seen currently you are and is it high pressure live doing competitions and stuff will help us that feel. Well. It just depends about the amount of pressure that you putting yourself. You know like if you put so much pressure on yourself it. You'll like if I don't win world's GonNa end, it's going to be high pressure situation but I'm start of like I'm starting to learn now if I can just go out and just stuff my best. Whether I win lose or draw I. Come Away knowing that I've done the best that I can and I've shown my ability you know and like it can definitely be high pressure if it's I. Don't know maybe if you you're going for wo title or if you were going to qualify and it was like, if I'm make this heat I qualify for the dream to. That would be completely different but sometimes people. Will back away from that and say, well, like I like Arcand, not make these Haiti icon full I can't do this way I feel like it's so important to go. No, you know I've made it this far like I am going to make these like I'm GonNa sell the best in this that I can and I'm not gonNA put so much pressure myself. I'm just GONNA go out there and just Surf the best that I can do what I know I can do and have fun doing it. That's that's. Awesome fire I'm I. Wish this gut like I'm so excited to go back and listen to this. This is just you'll sorry well-spoken and just unbelievable. Anyway let's move onto the next habbing sir. You're currently on board with RIP Kale and how does it feel being sponsored by such an amazing authentic surf brand micro? Yeah. Well. I'll never forget the day that my dad told me on getting sponsored by Roop kill. So basically the way the hallway that it Kinda came about. We were a there was a rip curl national final here actually at north. NARA. Bain and I. It was like my first one that I've ever done and ended up getting third. And I'll soy starts now call my gosh, and then I got like. Rising Star award or something, and like I was I was so excited. I said Oh my God this is amazing. And I just didn't think it could get any better and then maybe. A couple of days later, it was a nice before my birth actually I think I'll stunning fourteen or fifteen. and. He just goes all true come in. I. Was like Oh. Yeah. Like what's wrong thinking? Oh my gosh. Did I don't make my bid this morning what have I done and it goes on I just want to let you know that your getting sponsored by Rico. And that was it and I'll just like what? Like. You know and then I can dead set. Code ME MOCKED FLANAGAN OUT AMAZING TAE manager. He called me maybe a day. Later we had a ton of fun and he was like Hey. You'll basically was saying you know like we want you on the tame and it's going to be an amazing ride for you and I was like, oh my gosh, like I just couldn't I was just in such shock announce going on I'm sponsored by Rip Kelly Tyrod it's wants to buy. You know she's my idol. So I was going. Wow, this is. It was just so surreal for, and now like they've just they take such good care of the athletes you know they've really much to them and they. You know if you need something that. You know they constantly. Around and it's amazing because he feel so supported and you feel like you're part of this family in any and it's something that is still important and rip cal do it so well, like you said. Such an amazing brand new will fenwick in real and I think that's where I feel so lucky to be with them because that's what I try I try to be real authentic. Can I try not to? Trade this. Aw I'm always happy or always aiming healthy because it's not the case sometimes I will binge out on a blockage clint like. Own Sometimes I'm not happy and that's that's okay. So Yeah recalled they've. The honestly like I owe them. Sorry lots to where I am today in my surfing career. Yeah. Hundred percent. So how does that impact your life like? Being with Ripka. Yes. Yes. So how does that impact my life? Well? Berlin while I was like, oh my gosh. If I don't make these hate like maybe drop me or whatever it was that funny came up to you on diet he's like. We just want to support you and what you do and as long as you'll having fun. That's all I care about. You know like we we WanNa make sure that you make hates and like that you'll serving to the best of your ability. But at the end of the day, like you're part of the family, you'll pilot attain and that Kinda gave me so much more confidence call my Gosh and there's even times like even still now if I grow up I. Like, I'll have a bad cir- for keep falling whatever hang on a second like. I'm good enough like I have the ability to. Make It. You know and I just have to go. I A believe in myself if I wasn't good enough like I wouldn't have ricco like backing May and I wouldn't have old as people supporting me I'm GonNA K- you know like No one's. Blowing smoke up my ass or whatever you know. So it's important for me that people are honest and that's why rip killer. Definitely. Changed. My perceptions as well like in a good way because I've been honest entry civil and that's been amazing. That's that's Al-Shams on. Kissing. because I'm guessing, I'm not this that you travel a bit. With. Surfing. So what was your most memorable trip and why? My St-. Memorable trip and Y. Wow. My Gosh I'm going to have to pay through my brain I. think this is like out of a contest kind of lives, and this is more interesting subject with my family. One year we went to Bali and we ended up we stayed in the book it. So we were in being in for a couple like maybe two weeks, and then we stayed in Olot to for a couple of days, and then we went to Chengdu for a week. and. The waves were just like the whole time. We were there absolutely pumping like it was insane and I just. Like Old. I think except for like eight to ten hours a day every single day it was crazy like as all the time. And that was kind of the turning point for me while I was like. I just want to ban the war I just WanNa surf session surf and that's probably one of my most memorable trips house with my family having so much fun. You know we were aiding good food wearing these beautiful place. But it was just. Yeah. That was probably one of my most memorable trips. But this Bain started many I went to South Africa last year with one of the boys from Home Joni Lola and his girlfriend Leilani mcgonagall who's actually sponsored by curl as well and We went to South Africa together and that was amazing. I Have Bay for the first time and it was like. Pete Dress. It was that was the moon water. The beautiful sunset was just amazing and the way it was worth so good and that was a part of like twenty dolphins out there and I think my friends, Sophie Fletcher, Tournai we both out there and just started crying. Because it was just so roar and beautiful and powerful outside. Well, we had just so lucky to be. Traveling, traveling alone and doing what we're doing and. Like. It's sad that we can't right now but I'm so excited to get out and go travel and make more memories and surfable waves and. Experienced coaches I'm very excited. that. Sounds so much of. A really horrible Safa. But when you look at the hates at J. and stuff whenever they're on, it's just like One day maybe if I get a bit better at surfing, it's be pretty cool to go there. But Sergey surgery on the subject so much all scrolling through your instagram and I saw the posted a quote that was you grow when you're comfortable. So. I'm guessing if you posted that means a bit to you what do you like about it and why? Yes. So When I saw. I think I was. I don't even remember how long ago. When when did Ivan Post that? I'm actually unsure chicked this. Look Anyway. I think. When I saw that I was kind of going. Wow, like that resonates with may start March because. If you're doing something that's in your comfort zone. You just going to constantly be like you'll be you will be progressing, but you're not gonNA be. Making him walk. And Like I just feel like everyone that's put on me. So he's in put heated just. Go through the motions you know. Yeah. Yeah. He to make him off. Make a difference help people. Like. Leave your life and be happy at the same time. So when I saw that quite I was like, okay I really need to put myself in uncomfortable situations where I can grow and I can feel. Strong. Coming out of that unit like I'm a very I would much rather stay home and read a book and drink a cup of tea then go out and party you know. So I'm quite I'm very much like that. So I think in that aspect of my life was whereas like okay I actually can go out and have fun with my friends and growing have one or two drinks or whatever that is but I don't need to do that every weekend but putting myself in that position in that situation. Was important for me because it's not only like. Me brought him my friendship circle, but it's actually me feel like a lot more strong in myself. I can just go up to someone and have a conversation with them. And even in my surfing, it's like. I used to be like, Oh, I'll just go out when it looks good. But now it's like now I'm GonNa if it looks bad, I'm going to go out if it's looked big if if I'm scared I'm going to go out like because at the end of the day, scared the only way to overcome that feeling is actually going you know overcome. So go out not big stuff and try and catch that big wave you know and as long as you have the right tools and the right you know like being waste can be pretty scary with Britain breath hold and stuff like that but. You know you wanNA always keep pushing yourself to say how can grow you know because? If you don't pushing yourself you just going to stay stagnant nuts I just want to keep growing and progressing in all aspects of my life because if one I feel like if Wandel opens another, another doors gonNA open and dosage is GonNa keep getting and things are just GonNa, keep growing and getting better. Love, do you have any other quotes that you that you like? There's one on my I actually have it on my written on my Mira in my room. It's like it's something along the lines of today. Want you to focus on all that you are instead of all that you are not. So pretty much to me. I don't know how you might take it but to me, it was like, okay, I'm just gonNA focus what. On who I am and what I can do and what I can change and things that I can in our people, I can help or whatever that may be instead of focusing on. I'm not I don't have the perfect ads or I'm not. Like Working in offer I'm not the so what you know whatever not my may not be I wanna just focus on a k. like yet I may not have the cuffy caps but I'm going to go in Douma coal causes to get that those jobs that I want you know or just focusing on things that. I can control and focusing on who I am at that time and not who I'm not. So I think. At when I put that online Mira, I was like kind. In a stage in my life where everything was everywhere and then when I found that Kinda just brought everything straight back in and I just was like well. I kind of took a step back and was like, okay like I need to realign everything and focus on who I am and not compan-. I self to others and not think all that go. She's got such nice such nice body or whatever that is you know what like? I have a nice buddy to like I'm proud of that. So yeah. That's that's my other favorite court. That's awesome. So I guess finding good role models can be quite a difficult task in some ways. What, advice would you give to young teenage girls and boys growing up in today's society? Yeah. Wow. That's a yeah. It's so hot lake. In Society. Today everything is so social media based like it is I. Actually think it's bad like it's crazy and you know as. Like someone that I looked up to that he's my role model now and she's like Kinda, mentoring me in a way and helping me down avenues that I didn't quite I'll kind of just walking down blindly because I didn't know what I was doing Laura. From I'm sure you know who she is. She's from my from narrow Bain and when I first with changes to my sister and I under her wing and she's like I'm just GonNa. Take you guys. We've me and. Like it's so important if you were to if you wanted to role motor if there was someone that you looked up to they have. The same real values and morals is you do you know and that trying good message that the helping people helping themselves or whatever that may be. It's so important especially like. I feel like now everyone's going on you know. That that girl so skinny on that boys got like, Hey. So Boffin, Mosley and strong in it like societies creating this picture of you have to either be Muscian strong or skinny ten. person like you know and. Table, is definitely becoming unhappy with themselves if they're not that and it actually saddens me because there's so many people. That just become so on confident in themselves and it's not right because like you are who you are and you should be proud of that and you should be like you know what? This is May when I'm not GonNa Change for anyone else and if you don't accept that been dot com on my train, like you can just all like you can stay out that station and John Jump on someone else's trying of life you know so I think it's just important to. Respect to you are and be confident in yourself, and if you have someone rolling with you, that isn't. Doing that and he's saying you know. I'm empowering you and I'm supporting you. Then you gotTa tell them to get off at the next station. A. Love. The not totally agree with what you're saying there. But before we finish the podcast, I like doing this signature things. So yeah, I've a digital spin the wheel up on my. Computer here, and they're like some incredibly random questions. So that just kind of like some quickfire questions yet and yet they're definitely unique. So say I'm excited. No, and the first question is a what is your favorite smoothie? Oh it's my banana and mango smoothie with a chocolate protein powder in it from one of my sponsors tree protein by. Harm and it's one of my favorites maids of. A sense. Oh And honest movie. Yeah Good. Second question is, what is your? Where is your favorite city in the world? Wow. My favorite city. I don't know. I have not I'd love to garden New York or somewhere and just experienced like the whole vibe there. Yeah, I got an answer that one I I don't know. Who what are your top ones like what my? Favorite. City. Why Harm I'm quite a high I do quite love harm. I like. I really liked Jeffrey's Bay like even like it's kind of more of the town. But when I was there I loved it I kinda just go to towns. But young Jeffrey's Bay was amazing another city. I don't know. That's a hard one because I just grow in the karst I didn't going to the city life but. Karston towns Jeffrey's Bay. Cabaret data off good. I could read them off. I loved going when I was in cruelly that was pretty. It was just like a little town that village kind of area. More rural cities. I have like a liked that I liked that. All right. Next one is, who is your favorite surfer? Tread lightly because I don't want to say my dad and my sister get offended. But. My Dad I. Love my God He's amazing He just doesn't care. He just does whatever he wants but. My Dad and also Steph your tyler if I could mash them together. My favorite all time. Steph. Right next question who is your favorite instagram? Oh. My favorite instagram. Anything related to bulldogs YEP that's. I can't remember what is Colbert as a page and it's got bulldogs. I have a bulldog of my own and I'm just obsessed. Anything related to bulldogs. All ever. I like the that. All right. Next question. I, don't know if you listen to podcasts but if you do, your is your favorite podcast. Oh well, the only ones that I've Leeson to have been the stab ones. So with Mick, fanning and then Sam I, think that's his name Macintosh Yeah probably not wants me my favorite. So thaw but I'm interested I'm looking forward to seeing how this one pans out because maybe that'll become my favorite. So I'm such in the early stages. But hopefully, throughout the next few months hopefully grows a bit and then you have an I yeah, of course, and if you naming to do anything, let me non-self. Sorry finding trumpeting. Do One loss question let's see what those thing spins. and. It is revving some errors yet here what is your favorite food? Oh my gosh. this can be snacks did anything anything anything anything in the wild? Strawberries. Or? Strawberry. Could Peak Yeah Full Brooklyn. Era I. Think I feel like in the food and drinking aspects I can wear pretty similar in some ways there anything nice yummy and fresh. I'm. Hardly Samia. One loss lost thing. I WanNa do before the podcast ends I always do this so. Judging on this podcast is anyone you could introduce me to using would be good for the podcast. In an like. Based in the savvy industry or any Literally any industry Oh. Arken speaking to pay like a personal trainer would be pretty cool. I've got my personal trainer like and there's I know that as a couple around but mile on WHO's based. In the northern beaches as well. He's actually an ex. Baseball player and not natural and pay con across fiddle. He's like hand spies me so much and he. Yet he hates me in check and yet he's pretty switched on but then there is another pay. His name is brody led trees off on the goal cars and hey, actually trained tyler todd as well. So they could be pretty good podcast for you. and. Be Awesome. But that is going to do it for this episode of acting the future is guys did enjoy and you are appalachians out really appreciate if you do go Labor Review where currently sitting twentieth in Australia Education podcast and my goal is to get into the top ten within the next month Saad. Really appreciate that if you're on spotify be all by the genes for quick sake and chocolate a review Maya instagram is fifty seek occurred if you're on all my social oh shoes. True. What is yours? It's trae styling. So truths about T. Perfect via look forward to seeing you guys in the next podcast, which be episode seventeen have a great evening morning or midday review on the world and Yeah. I'll see soon way out.

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Time To Talk?

Highly Questionable

20:53 min | 2 months ago

Time To Talk?

"You could also tell him he's being asked the question. He was not really paying attention he was he was just like whatever he was looking to get himself. It's gotta be a reflection. Oh it's yeah. He is looking at himself in the zone. Like i'm doing right now. Welcome to highly questionable. We got my go jona. We got katie nolan and we will get to the glory of anthony outwards. let's go. Do you think fields can sway. The forty niners with his second proud or for two weeks ago just fields headache pro day. The kyle shanahan did not attend because he was attending mag jones day but now for the second one he will be available. He'll be there and we're starting to hear some things now that maybe just maybe. The forty niners aren't as locked into taking mag jones as we may have previously heard which would be encouraging because suddenly i no longer feel like how shanahan is a dummy because if you went gotten locked in on the idea of jobs to the puerto trade three first round picks in order to move up and take him. I had to ask the reasonable question as to whether or not he is a w this is. Why would raise the question as to whether or not he was a dummy. Not a soul ever considered the possibility of mack jones. Being that guy in that. Pick until chris simms who has called shanahan's initials tattooed on his body. Told us that may be if you want to have somebody who can start today that that's the guy that you go take and without doing a thing. Bank jones suddenly became people's is the number three pick in the draft. Except there's something. Mike greenberg a lot. That's a great point. Every single person that he has come on says they take justin fields over mag jones. The only person who wouldn't is the hypothetical kyle shanahan. I just can't believe you. Trade all those picks to go take that guy in this draft just or for me to grasp if it turns out to be field trae lance data make a lot more sense will we've been told is probably going to have. Yeah i have to give all the credit in the world to my co host radio chennai mckay for calling this out what it is. It's the bridgeton effects. Kyle shanahan reprising the role of the duke of hastings. Making matt jones looked like something that everybody wants to be around in this upcoming draft. And we kinda see. This tend to happen towards the end of the draft cycle every year. Where things start to sift out we get a little bit closer to the reason that we were searching all along hopefully in this. I'm willing to go along with some idea that this was an elaborate smokescreen to then go and take justin field still at this all. I'm willing to do that for my mental health. At this point the one encouraging thing has been the difficulty of the draft cycle always is when we have these conversations about zack. Wilson we have this conversations about mag jones and people's justifications for some of their takes they're very rarely supported by real concrete evidence. But what we've seen in defense. Justin field has been just that every weird narrative about that has popped up. We have seen a lot of people rushing to his defense providing concrete examples of. Here's him doing all the things that you've claimed he somehow couldn't do. Listen so maybe just. Maybe we're going to get to that place where we realize we did all this for some weird bit of direct pre-draft entertainment and now we're good to go from. I think you could also argue. Not just that it's a smokescreen. You could argue the kyle. Shanahan did want and may still want mac. John's he's a guy that's passionate about. Whatever quarterback he gets passionate about any kind of fixated on it. It's entirely possible. That shanahan wants to end. Might still take mack jones. But it's also possible that given the fact that they gave up so much to move up in this draft and that they put so much time between when they made that trade to move up and when the draft actually is that over the course of that month. The hopes were either from john lynch or from cow. Shanahan himself that he would change his mind and maybe look and see if they could do else with that. Pick which i know forty niners fans would be thrilled about. You have to remember the cow. Shanahan is a guy that has made a mistake in a draft before to sit by and let mahomes go by so that he could take kirk. Cousins is not something that you want to repeat. It's not a mistake that you want to make. Because you're fixated on a quarterback that you want and you instead miss the opportunities that you could have so you would hope that shanahan has learned that lesson. I think it makes sense for them to take fields or even trae lance. We have to remember his second. Pro day is on monday. And i'm sure that the forty niners will be interested in that. They both work with same Private quarterback coach. Which is john beck. Who has a very good relationship with kyle shanahan. So he's clearly getting information on these guys and hopefully he's taking that information into account and we will see him do that with the third pick of the draft. I hope i don't know. This is the thing about him in michigan. John beck is interesting does he. Just like them less talented. Like we all know that guy. Is he this guy who just likes them. Less time to think about this had colin kaepernick on the roster. Yes i know. It was complex but still. He remembered brian voyeur. Because brian hoyer new the system had the option of taking deshaun watson or mahomes in that draft decided to wait for kirk cousins. Why i don't know that doesn't make any sense from anybody has turned out to be a really bad decision. Then they went and got jimmy. Garoppolo was seems to be the case. Shanahan is he thinks his system is the star in the less talented dude or more likely to adhere to the system. Jon gruden that's a guy that likes some less talented right because he thinks that all stuck draws up matters more than the players. You will never win that way. Period is ben. simmons is trash talking. Good or bad for the seventy sixers Service bit hidden despises reminded me that his rookie year people used to want to find him all the time. Anyway sixers and the nets played at night if somebody has been simmons after last game. This was the best rivalry in basketball. Which is a little bit weird. But this is what he said robbery. Anything definitely but you know it's going to be hard to do that but now we we don't to pass chance the lakers. You know they want wanna championship. So you expect to though Obviously brooklyn as a lot of talent They know going one ball and you got to so now he s he has become the czar of defense and also slid in there to be hard to keep that team together. Don't they got engaged. That ben simmons away here he is being asked by rudy. Gobert these two guys defensive player of the year contenders. This is what this says about rudy gobert. And let's get back to your coach. Doc rivers because he came on the jump and he made a serious case for you as defensive player of the year like to me it just regards every position like he literally at times swallows players. And i've not seen that. Do you agree with him. Definitely one of those guys who can guard one through five Obviously respect for rudy. I know what he's capable of. I know he's down there in the paint but he's he's not gonna everybody And that that's what it is. I mean he got him in utah and forty two and apparently scores so it is what it is but i've respect for him at the same time I think i think it's mind as you yell. I don't think this is necessarily good or bad for the sixers right like i don't think anybody's going to care in that way. But this shave with a lot of passive aggression with seems to indicate to be. He probably does other stuff that the sixers really can't stand. He's always got a little under his breath Apparently not score. Who's saying that about you being who'd you want to hear that come in. I just wish he did it again with australian accident. Because i feel like we're losing out on that plot that is true we don't want to miss out on that element of it. I'm glad ben. Simmons is taking up for himself because this what's become abundantly clear. Very few people outside of philadelphia are gonna take for. Ben simmons in any sort of meaningful way right like he's never been a guy that the outside world of the national media has latched onto because once we figured out that his whole shtick was not ever even trying to shoot three pointers. We kinda put him off to the side and said all right. You can argue about defense all you want. it's a weird styles. Make fight thing here that we can try and do with him and rudy go bare. I saw. I think it was tim. Macmahon tweet out. The defensive ratings for each there on the court and off the court for their teams and philadelphia's actually goes down with him off the court so you can make a bunch of these arguments either two different to call. I'm just glad ben. Simmons loves himself enough and is stealing himself enough largely because of the work of joel embiid to come out here and let people know how good he absolutely. It does feel like he's learned from the master. he's finally starting to get a little spicy. He's campaigning. I get it. I'm all for him talking trash. I will say they lost that game against the jazz. So maybe making that game as an argument to say that you're better defender might not be the best one but i'm totally fine with it. I'm much more fun than doc rivers who loved but we need to talk about the fact that you said he literally swallowed and that is a complete and gross misuse of the word literally. I do not think. I've ever seen ben simmons literally eat a person on the court now. I there are some games. I've missed you know sometimes timezones it but i will say i haven't seen it and i think that i would have heard it and so i don't think you should be out here talking. That's by just make sure you use the right words. And then lastly is that rachel nichols kitchen. Because i need to. I need to move to a new apartment. I got bad news for you. They literally changed the definition of literally to include things. Your lower not literal know that happened but it. But i know i know ran. Did they know but it had. It's a long long year k. Nobody calls me up next on. Hq do you have any thoughts about growing up or anything like that. What you think about what he might bring to the team. We'll be baseball player. Talks i do you own or rent. Your home sherry do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com. Do you question if a rod should be offended by this. Okay anthony awards. Why possibly my favorite player in the nba y because nobody's given a better interview right now because nothing is a big deal to him. Don't believe me here. He is being asked about his previous athletic exploits. As a young man. I used to play baseball on. Yeah it'd be hi. How good a baseball player. Where i could have went to the mlb. And i am not surprised. I'm serious though you know i just. I love your confidence you play. I play pitcher. Shortstop third base centerfield are the prime is. They don't want that while. I'm trying to tell you man we talk. You could hit the ball but for him. You know what that me out. Three is the most atlanta player in history of the nba. Now here he is being asked about the new ownership group in minnesota which features. Alex rodriguez who you may have heard of because he was a very big baseball stop. Do you have any thoughts about em up or anything like that. What you think about what he might bring to. The team will be baseball player. Research on okay. I know he's gonna be on about about. All he knew about baseball is that he would have gone to the major leagues if he wanted to. But he didn't want to go to the major league so he hasn't paid a league of attention to it and all not surprising at all because anybody who plays shortstop third base pitcher. These aren't the team. Guys bats cleanup. These aren't the guys who lead the chance who know the names of your teammates. These are the guys who were like. I'm here because i'm good. I'm the best. I don't actually care how anybody else does. It makes perfect sense to me. I feel like alex rodriguez the businessman has to be a lot more humbled by this than a rod. The player because i can make some aides things all of this. But for a ride. Who i think's very much values his role as being someone out here in the business world the working on shark tank. I think that's the part that deep down at parties. He probably not ready to talk about in this. I'm just so thankful okay. Whoever that woman was. I don't know her name. That was interviewing him. In that i bought they found the perfect foil for anthony edwards and so much cynicism and disbelief and he picked up on it from the jump was having none of it. I want the buddy cop movie with those two going at it. I'm buying what they're selling the real test you by the way is does he know who jennifer lopez right. It may be that by working here. But because he's like nineteen years hito. We're not there hot people. They don't think those people are those are their parents. Yeah yes. I'm hiding doored. Do you question shohei. Otani is better at running than he is hitting or pitching or look that otani is basically turn in the major leagues in the little league. Where the best pitcher on the team is also the best hitter on the team. Because you're just the best player on the team now. Let's check them out at the plate. This will not be a mammoth homer other grounded in short as a routine play. Being out wrong is that we saw kun. You do In a very similar play. And yeah this dude is put enough. That kind of speed is throwing a hundred miles an hour in four to fifty foot home runs. Do we have a massive home run from him. We have one of those. Yes same game sees lee's going mild my goodness just to yes. It all looks right. Is exactly the way i wanted to say as well. That's exactly right it looks. He looks good and natural. Doing all of it and it doesn't seem to be a struggle at all. Now all i can think about all. I want is show this video to anthony. Thinks he knows that we asked if he knows that he's like when i was playing baseball. That is what. I've been trying to tell you up next on. Hq i feel like yes. It's impressive but it's the kind of impressive that's like never gonna matter. It's like you're never gonna take shot from there because it's not so it's cool. I don't want to take anything away from that but at the same time. It's like the at the same time got in the way of the i don't wanna take instead. I'll just say wall. I would never do that in jail. Boy am. I impressed tonight on. Espn mavericks grizzlies. All right this looks like a good game. Look at dances. Gotten his shot straight. Which was the whole in his game. Which is frightening to think of what it could be an job. Mirant is coming back tonight. But let's get at his brigade routine of sorts. I as nuts for what countries where they do this. All you know kick balls around. I mean what's he. It looks like it's going to the right that it's the wrong basket. The videos really grainy say i'm just glad that he got his shot on track because otherwise my thing would be too bad. He can't take that three pointer in the game because earlier this year yet. A better chance of making national. They need did anything in the field of play a quarter play. Whatever you call it a thing of play data you intrigue. Yeah i mean. I guess i'll cool. I like basketball. I just feel like yes. It's impressive but it's the kind of impressive that's like never gonna matter. It's like you're never gonna take a shot from there because it's not so it's cool and i don't want to take anything away from that but at the same time it's like yeah the the at the same time got in the way of the. I don't wanna take it instead. i'll just say well. I never do that embroiled boy. Am i impressed here. You go go you a tree. I am intrigued. And i think everyone's going to be really entertaining excited to show up for this the plan tournament. It's going to be an awesome trishaw waiting to see which teams can beat them to be. The eight seed happening right now. Cubs brewers all right. Oh you're not that intrigue because we're here anyway. Yeah the brewers got this thing about hitting them with baseball's it seems to happen live plays against them. I think we got a little video. Some maine's got again old with her apology. Either stein the jugular beulah frustrating. When you feel like this keeps happening over and over again what do you do a response mile and contrast it. I mean if you're going to get them back that's how you get him back in. His foot wasn't even like actually on the ground he almost gave himself a ankle sprain. He's joined the hello. Yes do that sudan that like are you allowed to show up the fans. You can't show up your opponent. I feel like you get to show up. The band's gator you drink you know not enough to walk out on my job. I do have to sit here and do the rest of this. I'll maybe i'll turn it on when i'm done. I do agree. That shushing fans is is a great move. And i'm sure they were. They took it really well which early injury. i'm intrigued. Shifting sands is a great route to go and during these social distance times. Make sense but if you really want to show them you're not to do to keep hitting like this you might want to just try fighting someone at some point yes. We thought advocating violence. Violence is not the answer in syndication jeopardy. All right air raja's still hosting jeopardy. You guys keep telling you sales. He's doing a great job all right. Let's what's more sixty s. These midwesterners earned five. Nfl championship trophies. Packers for six hundred. They swept over the nba winning the title every year. From one thousand nine hundred fifty nine to nineteen sixty six. Eric or the boston celtics. That one i do have to say. I would've thought it was a trick question. It would have been too easy there. Katie you entry Yeah i'm intrigued. I love jeopardy. I haven't watched aaron rodgers adams still back in my dvr watching beck episodes going very slowly through that. I just feel like you're already a very good quarterback you don't also get to host the best nerd show that's not fair point. Katie bill. the people the people that usually have everything always have one thing in common. They want more. Aaron rodgers is coming for everything that we wanna miss here. 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Time To Celebrate?

Highly Questionable

21:28 min | Last month

Time To Celebrate?

"Never missed a meal but we almost won. We only got to go out to eat. We back another quite hit. Welcome to highly questionable. We have just done a total class. Critique of do a rap music ed weekday raby the gutierrez dominic foxworth wrote. Does it make sense to you. That the forty niners supposedly deciding between mack jones and trae lance all right. This is a report from ian rapoport of the nfl network. That this is what it's come down to now for. The forty niners was kind of in line with some whispers that we heard earlier. The forty niners were all the way into lance before. Chris simms told us that he figured the forty niners would be taking mag jones and then we all got on board with that one. Here's the part that doesn't make sense. Who trades up to number three and they're not sure right like that's the part that gets me about it is somehow you are not sure when you traded up to number three in. It looks like you're still leaning toward the guy that you definitely could have gotten after pick number three no. I don't find a lot of makes sense. I am a little surprised that justin feels would not be in the group of players who are ultimately being considered but trae lance at least in the ways that people talk about him all the talent just a little bit raw. That sounds a lot like mojo in. You gotta wonder at. That's what somebody thinks they can get is a guy that they can stash for. Maybe a year work out the kinks and then he turns out to be a superstar player because he has superstar type of talent but if they take mack jones. I'm sorry none of it makes sense to me at all. If let's go back to the beginning doesn't make sense. No just as we talk about is big for so long nut needed makes sense that you think about taking them with the damn pit. I think that This morning on get up diner. Rossini said they moved up thinking they were going to get mad. Jones and some recent events have starting to have them fit a little more comfortable with trae lance. I don't understand what could have happened recently. If you're letting appropriates your mod. You're doing this wrong if you're interview. Change your mind in a positive direction. You're doing this wrong. Like i'm shocked that mack jones was the guy but i'm even more shocked that a couple of roses shorts and no helmet suddenly made them thing. Maybe we're wrong about this. Maybe we didn't get shared trae land a second guess like to me this feels like subterfuge season and they are trying to confuse us all. I don't know who they're trying to trick but ain't getting me. They are taken justin field. Mookie well bo you it with michael rapaport it with diana rossini. I'm going with our got. Todd mcshay and todd says that it's basically kyle shanahan has wanted mack. Jones and the front office has wanted trae lance this entire time. And maybe that's where the change happened. Maybe the front office decided. Hey we can talk our head coach into picking the guy that we want instead of the guy that he wants which i heard our other milk hyper or other. Excellent analysts say that mack jones intelligence which you know. It's one of those words. It bugs me a little bit. And when i is what's really getting there and the accuracy but trae lance they basically say the knock on him while he does have an amazing football. Like you like. I've heard stiffness in the upper body so all you gotta do stretch them out a little bit and he's a good. I think if you look at the pros and cons of both of these quarterback it doesn't make much sense. If you're choosing jones over trae lance or frankly either of them over justin fields with just the guy that people wanna knock. He's the one guy that people are not taking this quarterback class and to me that doesn't make a ton of sense but sometimes when you've got these teams that seem to be doing it all wrong and everybody's saying hey you're doing this all wrong. Maybe they are. It's all very confusing. Him what i do know is that they're probably over thinking this. I'd like to apologize to ian rapoport apologize. You don't need to apologize you said in. You would like israel apologized to me for thinking that i would call it rambagh. Thank you for letting me get through all that on before you hit me up on this thing. Because i realized that about three quarters of the way through and i said oh they'll just make me say it over again michael rapaport. I messed up right out. Let's go this next thing. Where you say sounds like front office might be trying to talk. How shanahan into this. The front office works for calculating kyle. Shanahan was mag jones to be the guy. He's going to be the gatt. This is what i wanna know. Though if they don't take mag jones who's gonna do it because since we told you about him being in that number three spot we stopped considering anything else zach. Well wait ask the damn question about wilson because we know where he's going to be drafted who would take back jones because would be really disappointing. Vows mag joe. Y'all told me. I was going up three and then next thing you know. I'm sitting there in the green room. Just bethnal no green room situation of omega because he is live slot slipping slide. I'm guessing the patch the backstop but that'd be pretty. Why do we jesus over the bill belichick just to get another slow quarterback like i think people like bill would jimmy garoppolo again. They rolled the dice. Oh what's left at cam. Newton is trevor. Bauer being a little baby for accusing fernando. Tatis junior stealing signs you. What an amazing turn here trevor. Bauer not the most endearing sword right now dr. spring training. The dude was out here with one eye open which is one hell of a flex. Well here he is in dodgers padres. Which is our new baseball robbery to care about in life mash wall and fernando is left up building again covers off here. We go on now. This is the big surprise here. Trevor bauer not. The most likable soared on earth. Listen to these quotes after the game about getting stunned tactics. I like it. I think the pitchers who have done to them. React by throwing people or getting upset and hitting people or whatever. I think it's pretty soft to give up a homer. A guy should celebrate it. You hard to hit in the big leagues a so. I'm all for it. And i think it's it's important that you know game moves in that direction. We stop throwing people because they celebrated having some success on the field. Do that is what's up own. If i appreciate that right. He is selling that mad. They need is okay for him to get his shine. All vinnie got on twitter account. Assorted messed it up here. Here's a trevor. Bauer saying that all ya there. We go we know of. It is coming that badly just as daddy nicely. Next time l. Causal a baby. In this case. And i'm actually on our side about stealing signs game. Gotta have rule game need to be respected. But you're just gonna have to take that one man you just have to take. That would enroll is stand. We go from being. Oh trevor bauer man of the future. Two trevor bauer just will be. I mean i understand. How unlikable trevor. Bauer is even me. Who doesn't really love baseball. That much like i know that about. Trevor bauer but i felt like i liked him at the end of this whole long youtube. Video breaking down kind of facetiously but also playfully breaking down the highlights and then also kinda gave some evidence suggesting that would tattoos was doing was picking back to find out the position of the catcher so he could lean in a hit a home. Run like i feel like trevor. Bauer is right about all of this. And i don't care who's right or wrong in these situations this just like we saw on that fight over the weekend with is boy mosley doll. It's about the lead up to the fight. It's about what makes you want to watch that particular fight and in this case all the beef between these guys makes me someone who doesn't love baseball. Want to watch the next time they play. And i'm all for the pirate celebrates i do that in fief all the time when i scored goals that year for what you just said automatic. Grenade baseball talk. That is not my boy. we continue. Look i'll say this first of all if you want a translation on that that teased tweet. It was relax son and so that's a little bit of a fire back right there but look. I actually think this is owed so happy. Go lucky oh it's a great story. He's not mad. Look at the evidence. I want you to actually look at fernando tatis peaking down the at the catcher when he's giving the scientists looking at that's all you need to know. Hey he's probably trying to get a little extra look the pitch it's like a foot outside or satan and he's still knocks it out. So if i'm trevor bauer. i'm like hey that's all you can cover your. I do whatever you want me straight up. When i was pitching it was spring training with my eyes closed. You know what i'm saying so it wasn't that big of a deal. Wasn't that much of an insult. That the little peaked out. That i think brings fernando tatis a little bit more to the. Hey you're a little bit responsible for what's going on here. And if it was another pitcher he might have tried to hit you in the head for that one. So no more peaking. That's the irony of it. Is that the athletic. Did a story where they talked to three former catches and most of them blamed the catcher by the way for not do something about it and all of them made the point that you can get teased to stop peaking by giving some of that chin music. Bauer started off by saying that. A guy. flexes all you. You shouldn't give that chin music so when bauer does give him that chin music he's going to need to be very clear that his or the thing that i think it's appropriate to give you the tim music for not for the thing that i said i would do because he is salty. Let's not act like he laid it all out for what it comes up next time. He's definitely throwing at t's and now we know why it's not because he was dancing because it was cheating up next on each queue up you got like set a fire and it's got to do something to distract from the fact that you just pulled aside in that particular instead of fire eighty anything you got to do something. We're gaza ride home. They're like can you believe what happened tonight. Fire the lock. Highly questionable is brought to you by the flavorful treats of the new summer blizzard menu. Enjoy it today. Only at your d q do own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com bowls. Announcers were too harsh on denzel valentine. I don't think there's any appropriate set up that. I can give you because of your box on the screen with more time and all it just remember. This is denzel. Valentine missed it badly there less than a minute to go. The whole my goodness fell off is not shot general shots that's king all has that's whereas if both the woods get it. Yeah the homer analyst homer broadcast girl because we love the confidence of denzel. Just didn't make no. That's exactly you're supposed to responded stooped less than thirty three percent from three. There's a thread on twitter. That says denzel. Valentine is the worst player in nba history and then just shows you clip after clip of just terrible decisions and this is on that list now. I think that we hear a lot. About how steph. Curry is ruining youth basketball. Because all little kids walking and jim and they could shoot anywhere i feel like denzel is one of those kids at this point. Just because you've got the beard a similar haircut to what steph had before he cut it your other similar complex. You ain't got range bra. But i do appreciate it for lap and saying let's run his bag so what you do notice here as you watch the show. It's not about what goes on about what happens after you know what happens after. He's made in the world and has one teammate. On his knees on the other he's going to say it'll be alright. Look knowing that's a bunch of dues that it just like wireless range right there. Come on not at seventeen pages a heart rate band diso into the locker room. He was shoot shoot. I feel like what you're supposed to say in that moment. Busy badge dot shooting. The problem is i don't think he qualifies as shooter. Try to kobe. Like all those. Hey baby clothes kit nair. We're right there. Lights set a fire at a lock. You got to do something to distract from the you just pulled that shot in particular instead of fire. Eighty anything you've got to do something. We're gaza ryan home realize back. You believe what happened tonight. Fire the luckily is he. We were actually inspired by that twitter. Check out this montage. Gotta take what are you doing. Jeff levine slam there s druid. Yes you say with the bird man he was all k- miss yes. Yes was a regular person. Oh school how is he still recruited and drafted college player. You guys cherry picks. I'm sure there twice as many greatclips gotta take those shots every now and know this. Valentine's like these are all the people i don't in high school question which from staff was more impressive. They're was living cutter schedule. Somebody ass home clown with dignity was any did. The terrible to the young man said dignity is the opposite of that this is the opposite of denzel datum with old jibril off the foot sleigh. You know who's covering him right. There buddy healed the other guy who shoots a ton of threes in the nba. He knows he's got a hand up and he's still made it. Do we have more bombs. Steph curry helps on the two guys on him right now. How do you allow this. I mean not up to down. It is not up to them. He's telling you. I'm going for the two for one here because i'm not in the basketball. And they stood guard. Kings mistake chick every moment. Now these are all heat check shots except they're not just shots from beyond have corporate him at this point and i am proud inside the thing. I remember exactly what you're talking about from homey the clown i think he cracked some eggs on a little white boy's head and he was like dignity is the opposite of that. I'm old or got a good memory. I don't know what it is. But that's what happened in your right. That is not denzel. Valentine but if i was denzel valentine i would call a lawyer and try to soothe his program because we have just done to him. Back to back segments his atrocious. Like it's just mean to sit. A season assisted at twitter three. Espn guy lawyer. That's a regular purse shaped him up with a sternly worded letter tonight at seven pm eastern lakers and magic all right so jeannie bus went on the all the smoke podcast which is not the podcast that i think she would show up on and just wondering what. They was doing voter podcast. Because i know about podcasts. Anyway here she is talking about the five. Most important figures around the lakers. Five most important lakers all yes. We don't important Most important lakers of all time. Okay well then you know you have to start with kareem this and coby And lebron and oh this is hard magic yes. Of course matt my magic might be number one. No kareem abdul like they. That's that's it's so hard. Got florida And she important and feel does he fell after. Y'all break up. You don't have to tell those kinds of lies anymore. Jeannie everybody's like oh jerry west end this. How did you have phil jackson. It you know math pat riley is right now now that he is heard. This right here is there. You intrigue matt intrigued by the game to offer this piece of advices if you go on a podcast and they put you on the spot for a top five list. Don't answer kevin durant answered. Got some trouble with this answer. It's terrible the brunch shouldn't be on that list of course right but you're putting on the spot and you're taking answers from the hosts you're just setting yourself up for disaster there. Gd what are you doing. I i think the move is probably just a gift three and then by man. I can't fill these last couple spots out. Just move on and let everyone suggests all the other people that they think belong there. But you gotta get those or is three right. I mean you can't go off the rails which first choice can't forget number. One just reminded number that is the most egregious thing is upset. His jack maybe saxon be or elgin. Jerry west pat riley like magic furious. His name was the first or second kareem fair to be magic. Karim i tonight on. Espn cubs and braves all right. So madison bumgarner through seven innings of no kid baseball against the braves the diamondbacks now in case you're curious and that's a no hitter by the way because it's a seven a game that they did that he did this in therefore it is. A no hitter is seven innings. Here's bumgarner talking about. I just want to own say that. I'm gonna go celebrate with guys on a think these shadows and atlanta. That's pretty awesome. And i want to think rob manfred for making seven games. I gotta say him play for the team in arizona makes a lot more sense than him. Play for the team in san francisco. What i learned from an interview which. I knew all rick retreat. A little bit. i mean you know. He's getting old because he's not in a giants uniform anymore be. He's giving credit to the shadows which he really probably wouldn't if he was just the old mad bump and he's thinking manfred for not having to pitch the other two innings. That's just tells you the guys getting older. And he's being a little nicer about it too because if he's with the giants you probably would have heard thrown out the microphone. Are we sure that he's actually thanking manford. And he's not trying to be sarcastic in that moment like that. That is probably what he's doing. Because i feel like i. If i'm a picture i always want the game to be seven innings unless i'm holding onto a no hitter and that i want have complete all night so i can have a no hitter. That is not being second. Guess or question. So i think in that moment. He's taking a shot at rob manfred. I mean obviously you know that he but being old sucks because this shows to me. I'm get tired making mistakes guys technically because it was a seven inning game. That does not counting no hitter. You get counted for a no hitter if the game gets rained out after five but you pitch all the way to the actual end of the game all right. I understand madison's anger here. At this age he could have had no instead. It's just a seven. what do you call this a baby. No no all right. That is our show is a good year as is here all week. He broke into somebody's house. I did a show from their living room. Dominique foxworth foxworth fridays. On the right time with bomani jones. It's podcast it's nice here. Do you own or rent your home. Do fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. 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Rams, Emily in Paris, The Good Lord Bird and The Salisbury Poisonings

The Clappers

28:48 min | 7 months ago

Rams, Emily in Paris, The Good Lord Bird and The Salisbury Poisonings

"Welcome to the clashes. This andrew young and this is called quinn on this episode of the clap. Is we talk the good lord. Bird we talk the soulsby poisonings. We talk rams we talk. Emily harris something for everybody. Why undo it sorry exciting cinemas in melbourne in victoria in open again after seven months in which our closed with the exception of about a week. And that means you could go on c. Rams which is pretty good from. Sam neill michael keaton playing brothers who are sheep farmers in w i have not talked to each other for forty years. Exactly why is never quite understood or explained and a a disease sweeps through the valley and the health authorities order all of the sheep to be killed and Some neal's character colon Squirrels few away. Although i don't know if you call it squirreling when they shape that's probably the wrong word isn't it. He loves the sheep so much that he's going to secretly protect them. Which of course poses a potential risk to the rest of the valley which they might be infectious and who knows what will happen is sick have been shocked by the discovery of a highly fictious disease. Control plan has been putting price into of controlling. the outbreak. spent half our larceny. Everything to them the whole bloody valley. They'd take our smaller at finish the job. You got to follow the rules. Mike of two thousand and fifteen film From iceland or cold rams and that was a very very bleak piece of work. It was billed as a comedy. But i need. The iphone scandinavians could have called a comedy. It was pretty chilly This is more obviously in the in the sort of rural quickey all the comedy. Kind of spice. Although i think it falls into the trap sets some votes those films do it keeps a pretty nice balanced. I think between the darkness of the original and alighted kind of our quickey. Quick quickey community kinda vibe and i. I rather liked this film. I think it's worth checking out especially with checking out because it's it's actually showing you can go to a cinema. Yes i saw the original filled. I loved it right. And i probably wouldn't say it's blake silently. I can understand. Why some would you know. I'll just say and without inviting you to give it a while. Just say the final say has a reminds one of douglas. Stewart's play fire on the snow about sir. Robert falcon scott's doomed expedition to the antarctic. The titular seen in that reminded me. But it's i love this film. I thought it was marvelous. In every every respected is mean. Nasty frankie unkind which some people might say qualify for the term bleach rather than this is so the brother brother this bad brother righteous brother verses cool brother kind verses painless as it's it's it's really interesting in an australian context because we have. We are so fortunate here to have a radic. Aided ought to have held by certain diseases that devastate livestock in europe and the united states. And while i think at times you side with Keady the brother who want to kill his shape in the original film at the same time. You implied by michael keaton. You be aware of what dangerous had devastated when something like foot and mouth bovine spongiform syphilis. All those different things that can really devastated whole zone. Animals it's really interesting. Can moral conundrum but this this film unlike by suspect the strain film which i won't be saying this is very very funny. I can't imagine this film being. This film was made by takeaway. Td in new zealand with sam neill and some other new zealander are would be lining up for sure. I just can't see with michael. Keaton and miranda richardson it really carrying the tragedy slash humid in the same way. I'm just making that prediction. Well i think we could see it. Definitely changes the timing of it. It's it's not an exact replica. By any means the miranda character she plays vet in this bail even exists in the in the atlantic film. She's a i think. Well i suppose to introduce a kind of a slightly different dynamic forum for colon That samuels saving the sheep guy. Yup yup germy sims. Who has directed this. I think really just wanted to render. It's because as he said to me she's the he thinks he's the most underrated actor in the world and he would put her in anything. And so i think he. He called her up from the public and she said yes great. He called up from the pub and she said yes. I am the most underrated. No she said yes. I'll do it if you want. If you want only to see the the icelandic version but with a streamlined landscape. You'd be disappointed. Don't want to completely remake something. He exactly what. I don't think i think that's a time it's not like gospel san remaking it is not the same thing while you're talking about films just really quickly. Is it a film right. It's not your favourite show though. Feel free to me your full time but one that you find without realizing to actually think about it. You've seen an inordinate like a lot of times more than makes any sense to anybody. Think now it would be would be my sort of My gut feeling maybe alien. Okay which is probably my favorite film. And that's one that i've sort of sought out repeatedly but favorite you. Yeah yeah yeah and you know. It's a film that i'll rewatch every so often to see they've still holds up you know and i think it does. I mean obviously the special effects look a little bit dated invoices. But i think it's remarkable But now i see so many that it kind of feels like a luxury. I can't really afford to just watch film of already seen because there's always something else that i should be watching instead. Yes and it's a bit like My wife writes about restaurants and the idea of going back to a place just because it was great. Is something which you can't really do. You know what i mean i do. I miss i. i mean. I'm not expecting the world's smallest violin deke. In at this point in time those a lot of upside in this but but the downside is that a revisiting a favorite is actually a luxury that you just don really have time for. So why why do you ask a couple of films of famous accidentally watching. And i realize man who i've seen this film sign many times not to the point where i'm i all the dialogue but some of it and it's the strange thing in any kind of top ten list of films. These films would never appear mine or anybody's top ten list of films. There are some that hmo which i see see some different inflection will be a different different perspective on on it than than i originally saw and it's one give you one to john. Frankenheimer ronin right once. I've seen that like. I taught him savak. And it's really good. We discussed a while. Owed the car rig in. I was wondering so much about this. Year is a bridge too far goldman wrote a bat mag market garden a completely failed and dangerous foolish plan by montgomery to shorten the war somewhat in were in the world to wall asking that so many times and why i mean i didn't because there's some really good moments in an interesting historical films and battles but it's just the funniest thing how like that creep up on this one i can think of that i've seen quite a few times but again it's sort of deliberate and that's wonderful life theft. Never seen that really. I think i'd never seen it. Never seen it never seen it and they got to a point where i thought i don't want to save his corning embarrassing which which it is. But it's also great under the soulsby poisonings. Now the re poisonings is a mini. Would you call it. What do you call them. Mini series mini series. It's got one episode is another term. They've been using but as apposite is that appears to be to at times would suggest watching the soderbergh film. I if you tend to what's that. Sorta contagion i came into that. Come out i think it is. It is set in a wilder two where a series of of strange events occur very similar to. What's been happening. Now where the whole world ends up in a panic mode with people dying in in the millions from a disease it's initially spread from bats to peak to men. We're talking contagion here right. Which two thousand. Eleven of checked right now get the souls poisoning. Okay okay. so it's it's a similar situation where there has been a terrible event occur. No one really knows what it is but then now that people in apparently random why starting to safa these horrible symptoms and no one knows how to fix them some of them. Some of them die. Of course we know we know we now know what that was which which was these A soviet double agent and his daughter were poisoned by soviet agents over not called soviet anymore. They called russians by russian agents and a That that particular poison found its way into the various parts of the small city of souls brain. I can't remember the name of the poison but it was one of those poisons that is is just the the worst kind of thing i think it was. It was a sprite that sprite onto the the two people up by In a crowd by possible and then that sprague it strenuous penins. Someone finds the spray from the and sprays it on themselves leaking. It's perfume Man it's a it's a really terrifying a look at how a terrible toxic poison deliberately might to to kill people can be spread in an in an unwitting careless way drummer. It's it's not fiction but it's l. The people the actors in a play humans abbott the scripts. The script has been made from interviews and from dossiers and documents that have been made public subsequent to what happened and it is even though you know what happens in the end. maybe but many people would. it's thrilling and it's frightening and especially in the way that you have a one person making all these suggestions about how to reduce the spread and how they should lock down what they should do and they constantly being ignored and it gets worse and worse. And it's it's a great show. It's a british. Like i say three episodes and Really something to enjoy. While in this period of covid nineteen restrictions soulsby poisonings. He's on is on demand. I'll check it out my day as jan king king team trinity stash. Whatever he believed he believed didn't matter if it was true or not the old man was nutty. Squirrels heard like a lot of programs. Good lord starts with one of those this triggered. It's not really true. That's been coming. I do indeed kind of. I guess it's annoying. Necessarily i mean it's it's revisionist history. That sort of. I guess posits the idea sort of implicitly that all history is to a degree you fabulous. Yeah the that. There's always going to be subjective. Interpretations is always going to be a little bit of a licensed. i can with the vince. I well i kind of think is in that. But it's also i guess it just allows for licensed to be playful as well. I've only seen the first episode of good lord. Bird and elected did feel slightly on size. I think that's a good way of putting it. I think the suggestion. So it's about abolitionist. John brown who was executed. And i think the the show starts with An arriva a boy describing that. And i didn't know much about him i wanna. Sra card from great to is is the extent of my knowledge. john brown. If you don't know what an sra cut is look them up. We can occasionally get the whole sits or complete sits on ebay for quite a lot of money depending on which ear there from. I don't think i have thought of sri card. Since i was in three. Do you think about them. Probably more than any money. I loved it. It's very cards. If people want to know that. I graduated comp english comprehension but also including arts biology's sciences all kinds of things. You read the card on the front and you turn the cadaver and your answer writing down questions about the coddling. The teacher will give you heaven. Many you got right marks. They start very easy. That text get stints the cowboys the same size. It's about the size of attained inch record cava. Now probably small that about. I'm a loved him. And i can remember at the end of grade six when that was going to be at first alright cards my great sixty saying so anybody wants to finish up the rest are is getting all the way through the like down the front who white to get to the into the is one of the make. Sure i complete it. My sra program including one. On john brown. That was great too. So i'd move beyond nathan hale is a revolutionary figure. Also learn from i to be a killjoy. But can i suggest we get business out fisher so good. Little bit about john brown abolitionist. That the very start of the program that he's some kind of fugitive from i'm not sure which government it. I'm not sure if it seemed like the civil war has yet to be declared so to speak and so there is still just one government in the united states. Slavery is still something that is is not illegal and open a central to the economies of the southern part of the united states. He is a very religious righteous man. Who makes great big speeches and seems completely unhinged. An office rocker. He somehow adopts ago. Who is not a girl. But he thinks is called ago henrietta. But he's really a boy called henry and he gives him a dress to wear and henry just goes along with it. He's a house not a son of a slave. I don't think he's vowed shot at the very start. I think by accident accident now. Okay sort of well. I suppose accidentally sort of collateral damage. But it it involves white racists and you'll you'll neglecting to mention that henry slash henrietta is in fact. A black kid was about to ask. Sorry sorry jumping okay. It's absolutely significant. That a- in rita is black. He'd they travel on the run. They get into skirmishes that john brown has Sons accompany him on this grand much. Not quite sure where. And i'm not quite sure what they expect to. But they armed and the angry and they're looking a fights peak with representatives of the forces of evil who condone slavery as a salve in the first episode. But i would say that the mission. John brown's mission should also decide that he's played. I think quite brilliantly by heath and hulk them with his just sense of He's somewhere between inspired and just a lunatic I think their mission quite quite clear mission is to provoke conflict between those forces we represent slavery represent liberation. I'm sure i just said this. Did you just took too got less than science. Research associates cards of those guys. It stopped talking about him. Don't get me so how many episodes of you watch. Sandra are three or four with think Yeah it's great not unlike the garibaldi. He's asking for men willing to lay down their lives. Few nothing but cold hunger forced marches and suffering. I sign exactly so it's a little bit like my experience of hiking in new zealand. Quite you experience with the plight of african american slaves in the saying it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't raining andrew. I want to skip gear like massively here and ask you. If you've watched me in paris. I think the answer is going to be no. I have not watch the entire thing with my wife and finding finding show to watch with my wife is like very hard and finding a show that she will watch and stay awake. Four past about the eleven minute mark is like almost impossible. She wants this whole thing so it was like. Oh my god does that. Say about your. It says that. She's a delightful woman. Hello bonjour. I'm emily cooper from the gilbert group in chicago. I'm sorry i don't understand. I'm going to be working in this office. Don't severe whole. I would say that. Emily in paris was some of the most ridiculously paulie put together. Tv in some respects that. I've watched in a long time. Compared to all the incredibly beautifully crafted and wrought drama. That's available to watch. Is it drama. Romcom bicycles series. And it's from darren style. The guy who gave us most recently younger. But going way back beverly hills nine o. Two on melrose place west. I mean he's he's been prolific and very important figure in contemporary american Tv this i would say it is the most frippery kind of end of his work and it just like it's terrible. It was really enjoyable. Was like eating a bowl of pringles or something. A whole a whole canister a whole canister of amid had absolutely zero nutritional things actual value but it was kind of fun and i i have to say towards the end. I actually genuinely laughed at a few scenes. Not in derision. I actually laugh. Because i thought that was quite funny. So a lot more head. You become a carpenter what you do now. I don't think you'd be anywhere near as generous with the filmed in time that you watch as you are meaning someone meeting had to get up at six in the morning. I'm going to say that a lot of people would see that as a good quality of yours and not cashing and really critical. In fact. i think you'll being. I think you being passive aggressively critical yourself self andrea. I'm i am quite capable of being critical. But i'm but i also i think tried to engage with programs movies. Whatever on the terms. They're setting rather than abstract set of terms. That i bring to bear on them so if it's a kids movie on not going to assess it as if it were a a kubrick film you know it's like y- you you have to. You have to come at it from. What is it ambition. What what the parameters that setting for itself what is its target. Market its audience. And how does it achieve or file to achieve on those on those bases. That's how i in. Paris is designed as light into timing fluff. inc deserves more. Sorry the audience the target audience. Emily impasse. you deserve any better than i think. The target audience for emily harris gets exactly what they think. They're getting get exactly what they sign up for which is get exactly what ladies question. It's loaded andrew. You're being used you letting your your snobbish slip show. I think it's it is what don't forget. It is it is i who brings the ryan murphy to this podcast. Don't forget that. Ryan murphy. Is the darren star of his generation. Is what i would say. Dan stein is no ryan murphy. Comparing comparing is in kane with neighbors. I think it's entirely or would say that ryan murphy probably is elevated camp whereas darren stars. Just camp feel free. Continue to call me a snob. It's not a badge. I way with shame. Not a with pride. It's just what i i'm left handed. I make no apologies being left handed to go around telling everybody had great left. Handed biagio do but You know i'm left handed and that's just how it goes and it's the same with my snow berry doesn't make me better than you. It just makes you better than most other. What can i say that little than what emily harris is what. I'm going to say that. Don't all this on. Emily in paris by saying that while we would locked into our homes. Not i will go much further than the end of the street. Watching this fantasy version of paris really did hold a certain appeal. I can say well. I'll tell you something in paris. Said i know that if you've been in hospital and you've had to have generalists city and you've come out of genuine. A city and one is not oneself and one is under general anaesthetic and take quite a while to get that allowed system. A person who is still groggy and insensible and slack of limb and feeble of mine from generosity can watch the whole season. Emily harris from soup to nuts and get a strange sense of enjoyment. Decide this personal experience. I know somebody has everything that i've just said. I would actually suggest that emily. In paris is such a strange con- you know contrived. The region of the experience of an ex pat anywhere in any foreign country let alone in paris and such a bizarre fantasy version of paris. That it probably is a little bit like being in that post anaesthetic hallucinatory state anyway. Yes i'm saying. I'm saying it's the best show if anybody out there is Is having a procedure. I'm saying i'm saying you can approach the state of somebody who's had the procedure without necessarily having to go through the pain. Everybody wins with emily from paris in paris panthers. Thank you for listening. That's for the clippers to mixed by.

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06/16/20 Businesses Prioritize Sustainability; The Future of RTOS

The Peggy Smedley Show

13:33 min | 1 year ago

06/16/20 Businesses Prioritize Sustainability; The Future of RTOS

"I. WanNa, Start with the consumer electronics space. Because this is really interesting at the moment where I'm sitting, it seems like consumer. Electronic businesses appeared to be more concerned about selling the latest and greatest model of their gadgets, the making their devices upgradable, or even more easily repairable, so of consumers can't easily repair upgrade their existing devices then they'll be pushed into buying more new ones. Welcome to the Peggy smuggling show the podcasting voice of Iot and digital transformation with your host e smedley. Hello listeners and welcome to today's edition of the Peggy Smedley Show, I'm your host. Peggy Smedley last week in segment one I introduced the topic of a circular economy which fits nicely into our broader discussion of sustainability for twenty twenty sustainability is about finding ways to meet the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs in a circular economy resources are used and reused again in a systematic approach to economic development designed to benefit businesses, society and the environment by improving sustainability so today I'd like to take a look at some specific industries, and even some businesses and talk about how they fit in this picture of a more. More sustainable future, either by contributing to more of a circular economy or by pursuing their own sustainability goals later on in the show I've got a great guest, Pamela Cortes a zero, not senior program manager and she's going to spend the day with me. She's at Microsoft and we're GONNA take a deep dive into our toss and how it relates into the Iot. So all of you IOT fans stick around. We're going to have a really awesome discussion, so let's get started and continue our discussion about a circular economy. If you didn't listen to the show last week, I encourage you to go back and listen. It'll help you kind of understand and frame our discussion here. As a really quick recap, though a circular economy differs from a typical linear economic model of us, discard repeat because it follows a circular path instead of a one way road to a landfill it prioritizes designing out of waste and pollution, heaping products and materials in US and regenerating natural systems, so let's talk about what industries in individual businesses can do to move to a more circular economy I WANNA. WanNa start with the consumer electronics space. Because this is really interesting at the moment kind of from where I'm sitting, it seems like consumer. Electronic businesses appear to be more concerned about selling the latest and greatest model of their gadgets, the making their devices upgradable, or even more easily repairable, so consumers can't easily repair upgrade their existing devices. Then they'll be pushed into buying more new ones, and this isn't. Isn't really a sustainable model, so however I am seeing some companies making an effort to incentivizing reusing and recycling consumer electronic devices, so many companies like apple, for instance have trading programs in recycling programs to try to decrease the impact of their devices on the environment and allow US devices to return value back into the economy, and that's a good step in the right direction now some companies which i. I like to see. Now are taking a step even further and now. Here's a question for all of you. Have you ever heard of the company fair phone now? Fair phone is based in Amsterdam in the Netherlands and this is what's interesting. It actually started out as an awareness campaign about the conflict of materials, and as it turned into a company now today that has over a hundred thousand customers. Fearful and build sustainable smartphones source from responsible materials with a focus on reducing waste, making hardware as durable and long lasting as possible now repairs are designed to be easy and the eventual end of fair phones. Life recycling is free and effective now I. Think this is a pretty cool company one that's dedicated itself to solving a critical problem in the consumer electronics space, but let's broaden the scope just a little bit here. Here because at the beginning of this year Forbes put out a ranking of the one hundred most sustainable companies twenty twenty. Now we focus just on the US. Based companies that top ranking American company fourth overall ranking company is Cisco Systems and next number five on the top one hundred list and number two of the American companies autodesk. So let's just talk about those two companies just for the moment. Cisco Sustainability Initiatives are. Are Pretty easy to track? Because guess what? They're pretty transparent about them, which I think is really important. When we have a transparent company, so Cisco's latest. Corporate Social Responsibility report which they call the CSR details, the company's efforts at things like socially responsible supply chains, leveraging it solutions for the environment, making efforts to reduce energy, consumption and greenhouse, gas, emissions, and reducing material, use and waste products and packaging which I think is. Is really important when you look at the big scope of this, so Cisco actually lines it. Sustainability goals with the UN's SDG sustainable, which are the sustainable development goals which talked about last week. A circular economy contributes to the SDG's gold and here's a couple of them. They align them with number eleven, which is the sustainable cities and communities number, twelve response, consumption and number thirteen climate action, so those are all pretty important. CISCO's first establish its environmental goals back in two thousand and six. It also has an enterprise wide circular economy program that launched back in twenty eighteen, that operates under a dedicated program management office. She could see they've got a lot. Going on. Cisco prioritizes its life cycle assessments which estimate the greenhouse gas emissions and environmental impacts of Cisco's products throughout their life cycles. Now let's go to autodesk which I mentioned his second highest on the list and I off. AUTODESK also releases an annual sustainability report. The company has already achieved some great things in terms of sustainability. It has one hundred percent of its office and data center electricity come from renewable sources as of twenty twenty. It's achieved forty. Forty three percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions compared to fiscal year two, thousand nine. Its goal is to achieve climate, neutral greenhouse, gas emissions both direct and indirect emissions by fiscal year twenty, twenty, one I. think that's pretty great when companies are looking at what they can do. And autodesk is also focused on material, efficiency and circularity in its product, design and manufacturing. I think all of this is great stuff. When we look at what's happening right now. What we think we want to do for the economy now. Another company Microsoft is one that I want to mention as well because earlier this year. Microsoft announced his plan to be carbon negative by twenty thirty. It launched an aggressive plan. Its goal, which kind of details how it's going to go about cheating this feet, which I find interesting, because some of the components on Microsoft's plan include investing one billion dollars Yep. We talked about this before. In carbon, reduction and removal technology via its new climate innovation fund a Billion Dollars. I think that's great. It's also committing to transparency publishing an annual environmental sustainability report and Microsoft office vows to be more vocal about supporting public policy initiatives that accelerate carbon, reduction and removal. The company is going to be developing and deploying technologies that will help customers and suppliers reduce their own carbon footprints. I think this is so important when you go about and help your partners in your customers do it because I think there's so much in the ripple effect here. Just think about that for a second. What the ripple effect really will be furthermore, I think Microsoft is also committing to enlisting its employees to help by creating opportunities for them to contribute to the corporations, overall sustainability efforts now. Now, what's really great is these are just a few examples of what companies are doing to promote sustainability in a more circular economy, and the more and more I talked to companies. It's great to hear what they're doing. In fact, just last week through crop I learned was doing some really amazing things, and they have a very detailed sustainability effort. Last week I spoke to one exact who shared since the elevator group broke away from its parent in February. They have a very different peace of the. The they're part of a very different piece of a much larger puzzle, and while continuing to be transparent as possible threats in crop has said its goal among the whole host of other things to get an a rating for the carbon disclosure project, and that's not an easy task, so it's pretty neat to hear what they're doing, so I guess. Here's what I want to ask all of you. What examples do you know? What are you all seeing? I'd love to hear what companies are doing so. So you know most important I'd love you to tweet at me after the show is over and tell me what's going on. You tweeted me connected W MAG so since I'm running out of time here I. Want to ask you if there's what comes to mind. When what is your company doing in the realm of sustainability? Are you behind I? Are you starting to catch up now? Sustainability isn't a passing phase. It's going to become the new norm for companies in all industry so I think that. That is something that you need to be thinking about right now, but here's my tip for today. which I think is really important. If you're looking for place to start start with investing your company's carbon footprint, you know I think that's important. Then try creating some goals for your organization. Perhaps line your goals up with the UN's SDG's I mean those are pretty impressive. We've written about them. They're on connected worlds website. Check those out then create a plan to reach those goals. You don't make A. A detailed plan next increase your transparency transparency transparency transparency is like location location location, but transparency is so very important. Tell your customers suppliers what you plan to do. An impact you plan to make because that's going to be very vital to this set that bar and then find ways to help your customers suppliers employees to set and meet those sustainability goals because you're going to need their help and all of this. This is how we change the world. We all have to work together to do. Do this, but if you have a vision. If you have a plan, you will absolutely achieve that. We're already seen that. It's so important that we talk about this. Even though it's not always easy to put into words and get those actions out there, but we're seeing these amazing companies right now. Who are doing it? You can see what Cisco and Autodesk is doing. You're hearing what Thurston crop is doing. You're hearing what Microsoft's doing. Everybody's talking about how they do it. You know when Forbes put. Put that listen. They're talking about how this detail plan is. It's not easy to see the top one hundred companies globally. So when we talk about how this list is achieving the top sustainability efforts. It's pretty complicated and companies known order to do it. They have to make the right investments. They have to work with the right partners, and they have to be as transparent as possible, and that's what I think is so interesting is now we're seeing with. Things are changing right now in our economy. Sustainability is going to play such a critical role in giving back our environments, and that's what we all need to be thinking about. All right is always I'm running out of time but I. WanNa know what you think about this so i. want you to tweet at me a connected w MAG and again check out our website. Check out the articles on connected world. Those are things. Check the past show segments at Peggy smelly show dot com, because those are going to help you understand what we've been talking about in the great guests. Guests that we've been talking to, but most importantly I want you stick around because we've got a whole great show here. We're going to be talking with Microsoft and we're GONNA be talking about some of the technologies can help achieve some these sustainability. Sorry, we can take a quick commercial break, but we're GONNA. Be Right back and remember this. Peggy spending show the podcast and worst of Iot and digital transformation and remember with great technology great responsibility. Go get there Quick Cup of coffee. We'll be right back after this quick commercial break.

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Hour 2: Heather Dinich

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Hour 2: Heather Dinich

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach ibm helps retailers manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with these the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud fried passion and patron tree of college. Football leaves here. The paul finebaum show our to podcast. Back is great to have all of you here. Friday afternoon mag brown with during the first hour and then really. If i don't say so myself. I thought it was an extraordinary conversation. So much glean from a mac and let's get your reaction to that and everything else Heather dinners joining us. Shortly will look ahead a little bit later about an from now to the games this weekend. The sweet sixteen and men and women. And let's get to the calls and check in with lynn in south carolina helen lynne. Hey polish or social worker from south carolina again this week. Great to hear from you is. I am so grateful that today had the opportunity to listen to your show ago. Some things to say about mac round. What your incredible but also wanna tell raleigh that just called in. I'm obama fan. That's well established. But i have high hopes in aamer. I'm not my faith in him. let's just give him a year to okay. I think he's gonna do good really do I trust in him to to compete with that. Other school in our state as well as all the other schools across the nation You know we the other day. When i called a did my remember area of the placard again. You know more say been less miles wonder if part of our hope is in people like mack brown and i would like to see across the nation. Peop- coaches all levels have to go through the school of mack brown. Learn some human resource Get some education on mental health. Get some education own. Communicating and learning that communicating is talking. But it's listening linear. you're right We all know many many people who never stopped talking to hear what anyone else has to say. There's a reason we have two years in mouth. I've had people often say to me as a as a talk show hosts. You're you're a good listener and there's a reason for that land. It's because i have the biggest ears of anyone who's ever done a show. I know you out but you know I hope somebody from the ncwa is listening college. Level people is there. There is part of how things change you big pocket. Boosters talked about the other day this is how things change. Is you listen and learn from people like that brown. Well i think human what i hear from him and maybe because i know him so well in a had a lot of these private conversations is that he felt like he was unjustly fired and then nobody really came after him and by the way. There's nothing wrong with doing television. That's what he was doing but it was a different pace There's i mean we talked a couple of times about you. Television is not as glamorous as it looks. I mean you still have to get on the plane you have to fly. You have to figure out how you're going to get from place to place. I know that sounds. Wow i mean nobody else has to go through that well when you're the head football coach at the university of texas. You don't have to worry about that because you have a private plane and when you get there you have the you know. Seven texas state rangers or troopers Guarding you every step of the way you you go to you walk in the sideway you go to the head table. You're not you're not outside looking for a and he had to learn that it was opening. And i i've been i was with another person. I won't mention the person's name a couple of years ago and we were going through security at a fairly. It wasn't a huge airport but it was. It was decent size up east and he had never been through security because he had been Flying a private plane for the previous fifteen years and it was. I didn't realize. I mean maybe maybe he had done it internationally but i i literally had to help him because he was so unfamiliar with what he was encountering. Maybe maybe that's another change. We need to put in our program but that's entire young women. I know this is unrealistic. Point being when you're someone who loses something whether it's a it's a it's a very small level of or at the height of the profession like mac was I think you tend to appreciate it more. I think. I think a lot of people over the last year. Think about it. And not back to some of our previous conversations. I mean what did we take for granted on march eleventh two thousand and twenty that we don't anymore i mean you just just the idea of being around people Has been taken away from so many so many so many of us that will never take that for granted again absolutely absolutely but you know there's i don't know if your point is right you're exactly right as usual but there's also otherwise to learn. If if we take tom to sit down shut up. What was the name of that book. I read scott shut up and listen yeah And that's hard. You know i'm important. I want to be heard right. Well i have. I have to go through From a personal standpoint. Land the air here and i get home and i've got to remember. I'm no longer doing talk. Show where i'm pushing the button. So it's there is a and and that goes for anything you do but you know whether you're a teacher whether you're whether you're no matter what you're doing it is different and and a lotta a lotta times. That transition is complicated for a lot of us I mean he's not for me. Because i just i've i've learned to keep quiet my entire life around women so it helps me. It helped growing up with a mother and sister who were all a where they didn't. They just ignored me. So i i. I had a good education and Just sitting over in the corner being quiet. I'm going to have to send you a sympathy card. It was the best thing that ever happened to me by the way. No thing you know. What can we do and it. You're in your position. What can we do to get schools to change the way they they Evaluate coaching staff. I'm talking it somewhat unrealistic. Land when we're talking about what we talk about here. Is that very few people. Stop and think about the critical things that that that mack said There too thanks for the call very much there. They are just too busy trying to impress everyone. Else or or be influenced by people It's a very ugly business the underbelly of hiring football coaches or or anyone for that matter. Hey thanks for the call. Appreciate it great to have you with us and let's check in with with a mark who is up next. Hey hey paul. How are you today. I'm well thanks appreciate yeah so First time caller and thank you very much for taking it fortunate. I kinda Play look a little bit this afternoon in boston. Listening but Because he is a big fan of your show but you know so. I was in vacation like Coach brown Was speaking of having to coaches You know one being you know the fit and passionate of wanting to be there and the one that it really wanna be there and for the coach that that had the passionate when the fit He taught me a lot in mentored me he when i even went through some depression. Me with that Intern you become a better person. A better man And he's helped me actually when my son was still in touch with each other. Now my son he's He's young in his career as a coach so Skip things and grateful. You know culture show today. We'll mark. I'm glad to hear that and Even if your boss is paying attention To say you you took a break. Thank you very much. Thanks very much by the way to his boss. We got them right in He he's only been on. Hold for a minute Bob is up next in new york. Hey bob how're you doing today bob. We're doing great. Say go aggie women and coach gary blair and watching the men's tournament. You feel the intensity in the heart of some of these schools with the delay zora roberts creighton and loyal away. Their way they're doing it in the and the teams that are playing that are heavily favored and just the feeling that possibly i was overlooked in high school in just the heart and soul. It's making the tournament. It's so much fun to watch. And especially the lay all of their. I mean just to me. I mean how do you feel it just like these guys are playing out of their minds against the schools. That kind of thought. Well you know we're going to go this route or whatever so I listen to your comment and be well in Talk to you soon. Thank about thank you. I think the question is what Does it last in sixteen and eight route. Hey thank you very much. Jim is up next in georgia. Hey jim thanks. So i should get a call a Follow hadn't talk in a couple of years. So a gator fan. But i just want to tell you then talking about louis bizarre and he was moral in georgia which is just south at noon in last night. the massive her Tornadoes came through and The high school that he went to men and high school got severely damaged. This probably not going to be they are not probably not going to go back to school this year. Yeah had thirteen buildings and they said all thirteen. I've had live damn well and the whole whole south end cam of newnan which That's where lewis went to. High school was in high school. Anyway i know you do wonder. Hey thank you. For sharing that. Because i i knew i knew. The storms had left alabama and gotten into georgia. But i didn't know where so. Thank you very much. And i'm so sorry to hear that yes Did a lot of damage to the south side of learning. Well thank you for sharing that. And let's hope the people there are No no that's a tough thing. We're where we used to live The tornado literally went right through our our neighborhood yesterday afternoon. So i mean we were. You always you pay. I mean whether it's right or wrong. It's just human nature you pay attention to what you know and some of the pictures that We we saw last night. Were were just heartbreaking. And fortunately no one. They're lost life although homes were just wiped out but I know i know. I know there were a number of fatalities across the south yesterday and i appreciate you sharing the information about noon and that high school. That is just so so so heartbreaking. Oh we'll take a break. We still have a lot to do on this friday afternoon and we were coming right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast hi there. This is julie foudy host of the podcast laughter permitted an. I'm here to tell you about our sponsor ally first of all if you're still stuffing financial documents into a filing cabinet. I am here to save you or perhaps you're still waiting in line at a bank. There's a smarter way. My friends do your banking online with ally anytime anywhere. The name is the mission. Ally is your financial ally. Let them make your money. Work smarter while you get to play which for me means more time to surf and hang with my sometimes. Adorable kids visit a. L. l. y. Dot com slash savings to learn more ally bank member. Fdic do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. 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This was brought to light when the images on social media of the differences in the weight room. The women's Setting seen obviously showing the weight rack in the yoga mats rectified. Compared with the sprawling jim that was available for the men's tournament But the greater issue here that we're hearing from a lot of the women's coaches is. There are things that could bring us more on par with the men that don't necessarily cost millions of dollars like branding and photography and labeling and messaging and social media and things like that so there was certainly a lot of public backlash and dan gavitt. Who is in charge and oversees all of college basketball for the ncwa issued a public apology And marc emirate sent a letter to stop saying. We're gonna find out why this happened. And not long after he issued dot letter. They said that they were going to do this. External investigation. They hired a law firm from new york to do that. And then today also reported the budgets for the ncwa's tournaments from the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season. Which i was told is the most recent information and i thought that was interesting. I asked for it because of the disparity at the tournaments this year and while the men have twice as large of a budget as the women the ncwa also gave specific reasons for some of those disparities such as travel and costs but also noted that the ncaa women's tournament in that season lost about two point eight million dollars which was more than any other ncwa championship had lost heather before we get to some of the other issues. I'm curious how loses money or how lost money that year. I asked that question. I had a chance to talk to kathleen mcnealy. Who is the. Cfo of the nc. Double a. this morning and it's really quite simple in terms of the numbers as she explained to me. Which is they. Don't make as much money from their tournament. They spend more than they bring in. Its it's basic math really but she says in terms of Travel and all of that even with the tv revenue included from that season. They still lost money. Meanwhile the nc double a. tournament for the men brought in over nine hundred million dollars and then when you the budget for the men in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen was about twenty eight million dollars and the budget for the women that year was fourteen and a half million dollars and the ncwa said that a lot of that had to do with just how the tournaments around they're totally different and in a normal year not this year in a normal year remember. The women have the first and second rounds on campus so naturally that should decrease some expenses. But i was told that this year's budget should well exceed what they had planned in june remember. This was back in june. Nobody knew that these two tournaments were going to be held the way they are right now. Obviously and you've got cova testing and the bubble and cova testing the bubble for the women. And actually that's costing the ncw more for the women than it is the man i believe it was about fifteen to thirteen million hitter. So interesting is this. And i want to talk about it because you've covered the ncw long time. And i think it's fair to say while it's easy to take cheap shots at mark amherst has any organization in in in in your experience in covering sports done more to promote women than the nc double a. Well that's what was so interesting about what happened. When those images of the two weight rooms were produced. I mean it was completely unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable had to be rectified immediately. No reason it should should have happened. Let me make that very clear. But the nc double a. As an organization has people whose jobs it is to specifically promote equity diversity. All of those things where those people. I don't know the answer to that question. And that's something that this external review and this law firm was hired to find out. How did this happen. And i'm speechless. Trying to come up with the answer because none of us really know but in terms of the structure of the organization. I know i know the president. You know mark emery better than i do You know he. He's given some peculiar answers and a story has as varied depending on what day of the week it is but is it really on him so to speak to to manage i mean. Isn't there a pretty big staff in indianapolis does what didn't get done right. Well at some point. There's a buck stops here type of deal right but emmer overseas dan gavitt who oversees lynn holtman. Who runs the tournament and it's her first year and she's just absolutely devastated by this. But you also have to remember that there the individual schools participating in these tournaments who have copies of. Hey this is how it's gonna work. This is the hotel you're going to stay in your flight. Arrangements et cetera et cetera. And as far as i can recall there weren't any size before arriving in san antonio and seeing these pictures so where was the communication breakdown Not necessarily sure does it. Start and stop with emmer. He's part of it right. So dan gavitt people speak very highly of dan. Gavitt inland holtzman. Who's in her like. I mentioned her first season running this tournament. So everybody wants to point a finger and find somebody responsible for this and the ultimately it does go to the very top of the ncwa in this particular case but there are committees who are in charge of running these tournaments. There is the ncaa finance and audit committee who is in charge of recommending the budget to the board of governors remember. We talk about this all the time. Paul when we talk about the double as an entity is going to continue to exist and i constantly remind people. The ncwa is made up of these schools. You know the board of governors is presidents and chancellors all across the country who make the decisions and the results of these decisions are what we're seeing right now so there's plenty of blame spread around heather. I know this is not top of mind to you. But it's always difficult to not ask you a college football playoff question while we have you and i know that normally this not yet but once the tournament ends the normal spring meetings start and ultimately there is some conversations among the The major domos of the world of college football looking ahead a little bit Is anything on the agenda. When the college football playoff group gets together here in a couple of weeks or months. So paul my sense based on the right here and now is that the commissioners are going to have a virtual meeting in april. And then they're going to try to get together in person. Maybe in may or june for what could be a more substantial conversation regarding playoff expansion. Now that does not mean that. This is going to happen tomorrow. It means that they're going to continue to talk about it. But throughout the pandemic these meetings have all been virtual and this is not a virtual conversation they have to be in person and it's also important to remember that. The acc has a new commissioner in jim phillips who was the athletic director at northwestern the pac twelve is still in the midst of hiring a new commissioner. Kevin warren at the big ten is still relatively new entering his second year. When you talk about the big heavyweights of this conversation. The power five. You're talking about three. Virtually new personalities who are entering this discussion. And how does that change that keith. Gill the sunbelt. He's still relatively new. And how does his experience going through this last season Impact those discussions. I think it could be a more significant conversation late spring summer. Then maybe it has been in the past. I can't wait to hear more now. Those are the kind of things that we like to chew on this program. Heather thank you for for coming on and sharing information. And you'd be well. We'll talk to you very soon. Thanks paul take you bet. Heather damage one of our favorites Joining us and we will take a break already. Mack brown heather vintage show we still have Jimmy dykes coming up to preview the weekend and much more including your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast we welcome you back great to have you here on a friday afternoon. Mag brown joined us earlier. We just heard from heather. We'll get a little basketball in here in a few minutes. Let's take some more phone calls and will is next up in north carolina. Hey paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you very much Yeah yeah i wanted to just take a few minutes to offer a tribute to my father. Who who passed away Monday of this week and He he He was a big georgia fan and he passed that along to me. And i've passed by sons. And your back when i was growing up There's only one football game. Maybe there's an early game in a late game in the afternoon at best. But you really got to see your team on tv. You had to tune into the potential college scoreboard that what was going on but Most of our memories early memories At least were sitting of by the radio. And listen to larry. Munson call games with my dad and You know mr months and had a way of calling a game and made it sound like that was the most important thing going on all four corners of the earth And so listening to him and watching. My dad's reaction to him. What made just kind of a natural thing for me to become a passionate bulldog fan and While we got some well documented heartbreaks I have an incredible number of wonderful memories of my father and I was with him when we won that national championship and in nineteen eighty I was with him. He was taking me back to college. I went to college and milledgeville. And he's taking me back. The day that kevin butler kicked a sixty yard field goal and will actually monson said it was from one hundred thousand miles out but We'll call it sixty yards And then when he kicked month is yelling. Omar omar god and my dad. And i we thought he made it. But we just couldn't be sure and It i i was with them. And mccrone sons were together when Georgia won the overtime game against oklahoma. A couple of years in the rose bowl and so You know if folks are from the south. I don't know if they could really understand what's coming to some of us and it just brings family together to what's what's your first memory of watching a game with your dad. My first memory of watching a game with my dad would have been. Probably i think it was the gator bowl When we actually watched the game the gator bogus north carolina. okay it will it exciting game be. Would you want a ten to seven seven to three something like that. But that's the first memory. I have a watchi- agree with him. I know it's an awkward time. But what tell us about your dad a little bit. My dad Wonderful man career. How's he worked for kmart in management and and and retired from that Devoted his life to his family My my mother was sick for a number of years. She passed away four years ago and my dad Just was he roic in the way that he took care of her I think what i tell. People is the legacy of my father is. He's the dude that showed up. he showed up. You know for all of us Showed up for my mom when she needed him. Most he was always there. He was always on time. He always showed up and I told them before we before we pass that. If god had somehow deemed to allow me to choose. My father chose of him every day of the week and twice on sundays. He's a wonderful man. Feel that is. That is such an extraordinary complimented. I know a lot of this Feel similarly about our parents. And and i badly for those who don't because they were r- i don't know how how to describe what they what they lost by. Not having what what you were able to experience and I felt i. You know with with my mom who obviously lived a lot longer than my dad but I wonder what an amazing tribute Which which you just got through saying. I i thank you for sharing that and Certainly our our thoughts are with you. I know it's tough but You've helped a lot of people what you just said. Thank you paul. And more time a dad go dogs and who knows. Maybe we'll get it done. We'll get we'll be thinking we'll be. Wh what was your dad's name names richard. We'll be thinking richard. If if in the dogs would a national championship. That will be a proud moment. Absolutely thank you very much paul. Look i i. Maybe i'm i'm the guy that's always in the back of the movie theater cried but that that really was an extraordinary tribute For someone to say that you know we we can all get cliche. But i've also heard people say the opposite so that that is extraordinary. Thanks so much for saying for for calling it. Insuring those memories. john is up next In tennessee. Hello john paul. I think sean s. a. j. u. n. I'm sorry about that sean. A thanks for calling. How you doing today sam. Doing well sean. Thank you for calling. Yeah i think the previous caller. I mean that was a great tribute is father and nasty to let him take time to talk about them. And everything by question was about Coast that you do you see any kind of correlation with what's happened with texas since mack brown left and tennessee since phil falmer left. You've seen the kind of correlation mayor. Where yes i do. Think they're very similar and you know it was a situation that that just got out of out of control and you know the situation with was mac. I remember being out in texas. Not long before he he he he was he was relieved. And it just started are all of a sudden. Everything is measured differently You know what he had done no longer matter. What and and. I know more about mac situation because i spent so much time with him Sitting together on planes and in small rouge but he. He ended up gambling on a quarterback who was the number one quarterback in the country. And he he missed on a couple of guys who ended up winning the heisman trophy and an and his constituency. Never let him forget that. Yeah well i appreciate you taking my call. And i hope you have a good rescue and weekend sean. Thank you for calling we appreciate. We're heading to a break here. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We'll be right back. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast welcome back. It is good to have all of you with us on a friday afternoon. Mack brown has been with us heard from heather dentist. Jimmy dykes will join us. In a few minutes to preview the sweet sixteen for arkansas and alabama. Let's get back to the calls. Right now and page is up next in virginia. Hey page hey paul how are you boy i i just. I'm so i'm unc fan. I'm just so impressed by coach. Brown weren't you on the plane with him. Then i hear you tell the story. You're the plane with him. You're the first one to find out when he got his offer. It was i i in all candor. I don't think i knew that he had it. I think he knew. But i didn't know we we. We were together. And i had heard something about it and i did not bring it up because i know sometimes times that can create an awkward situation. I think he was in the midst of it. I don't think he'd gotten it. But i had i had been i was within that day. Yes and later that day it started to leak out that he had gotten the job and I we would always The real is the same We would we would get to the airport. We do the the morning stuff for espn and get to the airport in hartford connecticut which is about forty five miles from espn headquarters. And he would fly back to charlotte. Because he had a house in. Where was it either and highlands or casher is one of the the fancy places in the north carolina mountains and i think that day he he got off the point instead of going to cash is he wants to chapel hill where you such a class act. Irony of listening to that interview is that As a as a sixty year old who just created a new company employees or half my and to listen to how he talks about passion and fit and desired continuously. Learn at any age is so true. And what's even further are awry because indus executive coaching program by a professor jerry bell l. leadership of chapel hill. Who's got fifty years of of great research about effective leaders encourage brown. Just what are you talked about. Today was right out of the playbook just a fit whether there's a split between a program and the coach Has so much to do with with that. The those values of core values and willingness to learn and grow together if it's one of those parties stops. It's like anybody getting a divorce. One one person's could keep going. The other person could go backwards. And we're so proud to have them at unc chapel hill. It's really a page. I mention that because it's it's it's applicable almost every part of life And and. I don't think i would have listened to him or been able to have that conversation twenty years ago. Because you know when you're younger you don't care about what people are doing in their fifties sixties until you turn it's you start making those milestones and then. Suddenly these become intriguing stories because start thinking about well. Is there anything left. And and i think what he said today and i know he's even more effective when he he's in person. You know you should be listened to by everyone who is reaching That a crossroads in their in their life or career. Because you know they're you know he has defied the normal standards when you reach a certain age and then you're no longer in the mainstream. You're done it's not true. Well i can see why y'all such good friends and thank you very much for how thank you. Thank you very much And sixty nine years old. Nick sabin sixty nine years old and there are not many people in coaching history. Who have been successful at that age. I mean there's a few You we mentioned bowden who was a mentor to to mac and obviously joe paterno but it. It really starts catching up to you quickly. And and i think the two of them are going to really break down a lot of barriers savings a little bit of a of an outlier because of of his success but matt mack brown is in many ways. What are the most successful and accomplished coaches in the game. Let me get to a call before. I take all the time of others and check in with jimmy who is in florida. Hello jimmy go right ahead. Jimmy are are there here somewhere but we will try jimmy again at some other juncture. Move ahead to further activity in the game. How 'bout Bruce sit in columbia south carolina. Hello bruce hey paul appreciate your taking my call today. Thank you re region. I called was a little observation from co steamers Workout the other day from a sports announcer here in columbia. Okay who got the seeds of practice for the first time since he's been cut and the first thing he said. Was you know these guys. They don't look quite as big Like the have the extra white usual you save with these. I'm un's and you know offensive linemen they. They don't look quite the same and boy that hit me running the head from the experience i had in the mid eighty s. I started working clemson university. And i was over the photography staff there. Some professional photographers and One of the duties we handed to go on the football field on saturday For the first half and shoot first half black and white go back in printed up during the second half and then bring pack of the black and white so the first half to the weekly paper. got sports announcers sports writers that paper. And that's what we did and that's the only school. I think that ever did that for the sports writers that were booth anyway. My first game was clinton or virginia. Today this was five. 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Shanaplan: What everyone is missing about the 49ers pick at 3 + draft mailbag

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Shanaplan: What everyone is missing about the 49ers pick at 3 + draft mailbag

"Now that the nfl draft is here you need to subscribe to the sp nation nfl. Show our team of national and local experts at the nfl draft covered from every angle. Plus we're bringing in big name guests and leaving mind from around the industry subscribe to the sp nation nfl. Show wherever you get your podcast for the best coverage of the nfl draft and beyond welcome to the show. Plan this episode right before the draft. That's what episodes my name kyle. Posey i am. I joined by my co host as always lacoste across. What ok p. I know we. I wasn't on last week. I was down a little bit after having the code vaccine. But we're back ready to go. The nfl draft is this week a couple of days and we're fired up man couldn't be more excited. There is a lot that is going to happen over the next couple of days. There is a lot that has already happened and these rumors are not going anywhere. Mag jones is not going anywhere. We if you have not heard it yet. Rob gra and myself interview trae lance on tuesday. That was great. He was a great interview. Gave us just a good conversation than is genuine conversation. That's a player that is easy to root for and if he does end up being the pick with the forty niners. It'll be fun to watch his career. Unfo- let's start with. Monday's press conference. We're not going to dig too much into it. Because it didn't feel like we learned anything new but at the same time there was a little more aggression than usual from one head coach. And that is kyle shanahan especially when the conversation came up about his current starter. So we weren't going to get any new information out of kyle as far as what. He likes about certain quarterbacks who the quarterback is interested in he did not budge off of that but he was very evident that it seemed you know jimmy is not coming back and that was pretty much the main takeaway he kept saying starter and then he was pushing back more than ever. It seemed like so when you listen to watch the press conference what was your main takeaway other than kyle hates jimmy. So you and. I have been watching cal. Shanahan's press conferences for what a couple of years now and especially over this last year during cova during the pandemic all the press conferences have been zoomed. So you and i. We both don't live in santa clara but we've been able to watch every single one During the week through the season postseason preseason all that stuff. That was the most aggressive negative defensive. Whatever you wanna call it. That i've seen cal shanahan in a long time and you know it's not like the team was particularly great last season and they had a lot of tough moments yet. Kyle was always common collected in those postgame. press conferences. midweek press conferences. He never seemed rattled yet for some reason on during monday's press conference he seemed rattled. He seemed defensive. He was coming out and saying things that i just wouldn't expect from him Especially the comments about We wouldn't even know if he'd be alive on sunday. Whatever i thought that was a little crazy just given what's going on and it was just weird to see from kyle and it got me thinking like okay. Like why. why are they doing this right. And a lot of people assumed it was because they thought it was gonna be jones or whatever. I just it just seemed a little too convenient for me. That kyle shanahan who wasn't scheduled to be on his press conference. He was the late edition. He comes on and he's going to tip his hand and show that mack jones is a pick. It's just a little too convenient for me and my biggest takeaway is that. They've got something in the works. I'm not saying that they're acting or anything like that but it was. It was just a little too weird for me on monday. They've been acting this entire time. That's been my take way. And i joked with rob that kyle came on to essentially prevent john from saying anything. He was very quick to just of not so much. Shut anything up. But he just wasn't going to let anything get out so we're gonna bounce back and forth here and we're gonna take some questions as they come in so restore is asked what is more important to address in the second round based on the draft depth. So thank you rick by the way so. We don't have to talk about quarterbacks entire time so we're cornerback interior offensive line or edge. He leans edge. I would agree with you based on you. Know the the the first of all san francisco job of adding depth however some of the depth. They're still going to be questions as far as injury. And john lynch they wanna pass rusher. That's what they said. They want four guys that can get after it. The guy that they just signed from the rams he has never rushed the passer full-time. Why not use your second round. Pick on a guy so i would go edge but at the same time man. It's been almost two decades since they've spent a draft pick on a cornerback in the first two rounds. And that would be very very tempting because there are going to be guys in there Right around that range. That are going to be tough to pass up. So greg newsom if that's a guy from northwestern that starts to slide your guy right there of love to even think about trading up for him a don't rule that out or tyson campbell from georgia. Those two are my guys in the second round but to answer your question. Rick edge one. S- cornerback one one. B two and then interior office of line is a little further down on but something is important to. Just keep seeing the cupboard. Add add more bodies because you never know when you're gonna hit especially on interior office blind. I guys hit become stars. That are not first or second rounder. So that's how i'd rank them. How about you a gosh. Yeah i think the forty niners in free agency did a lot better job than you. And i thought they were able to re a lot of guys. They've since added depth Arden key and mo- hearst a long defensive line so they've they've up where in the draft. I don't have to go reach for a specific need which they've had to do in the past. I would say edge and corner neck and neck. I tend to lean corner a little bit just because the guys that they have starting. Jason verita Emmanuel moseley kahlon williams. All missed i think combined like fourteen or fifteen games last season and they're basically an injury on the outside away from a dante johnson or something like that play and i think that's an area that the forty nine lead to shore up and i know you think this is a strong cornerback class especially with the guys that you listed who. I'm not sure if they'll be there at forty three. But maybe the niners trade back into the first round or something like that and grab one of those guys that you mentioned earlier but we the question. Yeah we have another question and we're just gonna keep rolling with these question. So ellard nick at ellard nick on twitter asks for united need receivers. Do you expect them to have two second round picks and which receiver are you getting a bigger guy marshall deep threat yami brown slot rondo more. Does it change based on the qb pick. That's a great question because who is throwing the ball matters on who you're going to select under this assumption. Let's assume that a cash and i are going to. You know think it's ohio state's quarterback so in that scenario doesn't really matter the type of fever it's going to mean you know the guy who complements the forty niners wideout so brennan and deebo samuel assuming those guys are going to be healthy and ready to play so in that scenario and let's answer his question i do you expect them to have two second round picks the reason that they would have to second round picks is because based on shan's racks in to jimmy garoppolo. Nobody like why do we have to pretend like jimmy. Garoppolo being moved. Is this big shot. We can saying it all along at the beginning of the process. People were not happy about that. I remember reading comments on ninety nation. Like we know we get a kyle. Don't think or you don't think that jimmy's good or you're acting like we're going to in the world is going to be over if jimmy is under center next year. I don't feel that way. I just feel like if you look at what is happening. It is evident that the team does not feel confident that he's going to be healthy and i also feel like at the same time. His play has something to do with that as well but anyway yes they're going to have a second pick because dario they trade a they get a second round. Pick for jimmy garoppolo in that sense terrorists. Marshall be a great addition. Because you know bigeye strong can fast can create. After the catch. I would go out of the names. You listed dombi brown a hundred times out of one hundred. Because i think he is very good i think he is going to be a guy that will flourish under kyle incoherent shannon says because he can really fly man and he is a lot better after the cats and give them credit for so that would be my pick. Do you have any receiver in the second year. Your kind of loving. Yeah so just go back and answer knicks question about will they have to second round picks. Say no so. Yes i do. Think that trade jimmy garoppolo. I do think they get a second round. Pick back i think trade back into the first round I think you hit on this. They wanted to ask the presser. The niners are just down to what i think seven roster spots after they released me. You're right right so seven guys. They've got nine picks right now. So obviously this roster is set up in such a way that i don't even think if they had seven or eight takes all those guys with compete to make the roster so they're better off trying to get guys in specific spots they're really wanted to thinking contribute right away and so i think there's a high chance of trade back into round one which would mean that they would use pick forty three in something else to move back up but i think they have that one second round pick from a jimmy garoppolo trade on the receiver front if we just think about what. Kyle's liked in the past what he's look for. He's continually trying to find that big slot receiver a couple years ago. That took jalen her. That obviously hasn't worked out for injuries. They spent seventh round pick juwan jennings as he was hurt last season. That didn't work out so in the slot. He's trying to find a bigger player. And i'm not sure who necessarily fits that mold in. This year's draft will be available in that forty to fifty range. But i think that's the tripe type of player that they're trying to acquire. Let me ask you this. What is there a better chance of the forty niners trading back into the first round or is there a better chance of the forty niners having two second round picks Better trade back into the first round so let's not feeling no no that's nother of that so let's give them one position or one player at each position that we think and assuming that it feels like it's kind of narrow minded to say you know it's going to be or it's going to be a corner it's going to be an edge rusher because you know for all we know cost shanahan and forty niners could covet nausea harassed and for good reason because very special player. But i would go for ed's joe triumph and for corner greg even sooner. Yeah so edgy. Took my guy would have gone joe for corner. I think is going to be gone a lot higher than we sink. So i'll go with your other. Texan campbell from georgia. Love love love it. Forty niners red zone. Podcasts youtube comment. As what was your biggest quote you guys took from the press conference. It was one that i feel like. Nobody's talking about and han said this and it was at the end of a sentence to kind of detected in there he basically said we don't want the lead to know what we're thinking. We don't want them to know what we're doing and yet everybody seemed to glance over that you know why that stuck out to me is because everyone and their mother is saying that matt jones is going to be the pick number three and college shanahan. Basically saying yeah. We don't want the league to know and so just put two and two together. I think they've got something up their sleeves. I felt like it was talking about that quote. That's the one that really really stuck out to me. What about you. He had so many quotes where he just didn't say anything he said he his exact quote was so. Do we know exactly who we want. Maybe probably but maybe not what. What does that even mean. But he was doing a great job of giving people the runaround and again. That's why i think. Why would it be mac jones based on everything. They've said good job and he did have a good point of when he said you know there's no real reason for us to leak who we want or for to tell people who want right now because you somebody could jump in. Somebody could give the jets a deal that they cannot refuse to jump up. Get their guy. But i think based on everything that we've gotten so far it's going to be filled because in this scenario you know it's smokescreen central and that's been the case all april and to me. The league has done a fantastic job of carrying the water for the forty niners. and we. I pretend to be that. It's just an for centigrade cannot wait for that. Yeah and i think you hit the nail the head there. Why would couch hands smokescreen. Or why would he missed directly but a lot of people have been asking that right. They've been saying. Trevor lawrence going to go on zach was to go to the niners are up. Why won't they just say who they're picking. Well you know. If you're the niners your call shanahan. This is the biggest acquisition. You're making in your franchise in your career right. Why would you wanna let anybody in on that decision ahead of what it needs to be made. You don't control your own destiny right. You pick three ton reports. The jets are gonna. Take zack wilson. But they haven't turned the carton avenue announced it they're tunnel reports the jaguars can take lawrence and we think they will. But they haven't announced damage turn their card. So why should the niners put out their cards on the table right. It's in their best interest to continue to keep their cards close to their vest right. And you don't want it getting out. That kyle shanahan like said player. Caution hand likes that player and all of a sudden teams above you have a change of heart or whatever the case is right so it's in their best interest to continue to push something else. Which in this case is mack jones until they make the pick on thursday and unfortunately for forty niners fans. They're going to have to deal with this mack jones thing for another what forty eight hours but hopefully come thursday night at this time when you and i and the rest of the guys are on doing our live show. We're talking about just fields. Yeah i think we will on i. I'm i'm pretty excited to see how people pivot. And because the reason. I say that is because everybody in the media seemingly saying mack jones then whether that is what they're hearing whether that is what they're just you know putting two and two together based on what they feel like. Kyle shanahan wants in a quarterback. I just feel like you're ignoring a lot when it comes that ensure chris simms love mag jones and chris. Simms is the right hand man of college and but not not buying. Neither am my nine buying one bit support for this. Podcast comes from paypal. Small business owners. Turn your smartphone into a cash register pay pal. Qr codes or the safe and easy way to get paid in store and they deliver the same security and trust pay pal is known for online in person. Even if you're a cash only business with paypal. Qr codes you can accept credit or debit with everyday low fees. There's no additional hardware or software needed generate your unique qr code from the pay pal app and display it on your device or print it to display in store customer. Scan your code with their pay pal app. You only need your smartphone. Learn more at paypal dot com slash. Us slash get qr code. What would you accept in a trade for jimmy garoppolo. I would take a day three. Pick at this point at this point. I don't even think it's about like the pic you get in return. I mean it caused a hand. Basically torpedo jimmy garoppolo value. Whatever value was coming into the press conference. But he's for college shanahan to be that confident and say the things he did about. Jimmy garoppolo continually say that they need to starting quarterback tells me that they have a deal in place for jimmy garoppolo. It means that comes. There's gonna be a team. Maybe it's new england. Maybe it's denver. Maybe whoever is they're going to miss out on a quarterback they're gonna not take one of these guys in the first round. That team is gonna make move. Jimmy garoppolo whether that's date you pick this year whether that's a day to day one pick next year. Whatever the case is they have something in place because otherwise they wouldn't do that because up until this point they've been saying how jimmy's got potential and jimmy garoppolo a part of their plans and all that kind of stuff and neither john lynch was more eloquent about what he said shanahan would commit when they were asked directly by whoever asked the question so that tells me that they've got something in place and they just don't wanna straight up lie to us yesterday so yes i would think it's a second or third round pick but at this point you'd take anything. Just a cut bait. Get jimmy garoppolo needs to go bring in the rookie quarterback that guy's face year franchise now and just start fresh so jason lockenfora from cbs. Sports said on tuesday that reno the thoughts. Around the league's jimmy. Garoppolo will be moved so good question there. Johnny and the reason the one thing that i would disagree with what you said because you said the deal is in place. There's nothing for him to tarnish now like because the deal is done he can speak about jimmy as freely as he wants and i think not as meaningful and you can kind of get a gauge. How he was talking like. Here's the same fed up. He was overheated. Did not or and that almost because of how frustrated he was that almost fell him venting to everybody else like. Do you know what i just went through like. He was saying that but he had the the deal is quote unquote in play. Where assuming that the place. But yeah i feel like that is why we we saw that version of college and an. That's because he won't have to deal with that anymore so Yup i i imagine just to answer the question. I think it's going to be two picks. I don't think it's going to be one big. I'm not sure if that is going to be a second round of this year or second round next year. But i do think it will be a second rounder. If it's a second and third second and a fourth one of those picks aren't into conditional but The forty niners their off-season has been tremendous this off this year. And getting recouping those picks with jimmy is just gonna be you know an icing on the cake man so yeah it'll be interesting to see what happens. Another question youtube comment. Christopher johnson no one in the media ash and journal about evaluation prospects off the field i e jones dui questionably. Races obama picture. Why is this being avoided so another video came out today. Thanks for the question. Chris jones partying in a club and to me not a big deal. college partying. But i don't think too much of it. Imagine if that was trailer or justin fields if they had just all kinds of sweat coming down party of whatever was drugs who cares but if it was not mag jones this would be all over the place. this would be a store so We as a good point. We just the reaction to be consistent. No matter who the quarterback whether it's trae lance jones the you and i agree regardless for the player. Was your college kid. It looked like the videos all having a good time. We've all done it. It's fine whatever. Just the reaction just needs to be consistent though our producer rob reminded us that during the press conference. Kyle shanahan said starting quarterbacks nine times that would have been a helluva game to play thankfully about that but yeah like again going back to that it just seems like he is over it and what's next. That's what i want to know what happens next of was speaking of mack jones. Why is this not going anywhere. Why do you think and we talk about current water. Why do you think people are so convinced that mack jones in is the pick because if we use critical thinking and i feel like we've done a good job of that over the past up it might not be popular but critical thinking would tell you that in no scenario would mack jones. Pick at number three. So why would you think that is the case. Yeah so let's lay out the scenario. For why i people in the national media talking heads who cover the nfl mack jones. The pick right. I think it's kind of a lazy narrative but people look at the court. The type of quarterbacks that kyle shanahan has acquired has coached has been coordinator for and they think that mack jones kind of fits that mold. Right whether it's matt ryan or kirk cousins jimmy garoppolo or mashhad off. You name the player and they say okay. This is exactly what Joneses is exactly what college during the hands looking for. He's gonna take that player. But like you and i talked about this. Podcast offline whatever kashan has never been in a spot. He's never traded three first round picks in a third round. Pick to move up to number three take a quarterback. He's only really been in this spot once in twenty seventeen when they drafted second and they admitted that they didn't look at their these quarterbacks they had a different plan in mind. It was kirk cousins. But now they're looking at these rookie quarterbacks and it's it's to me it's just a lazy narrative that people continue to bring up mack jones because of how shanahan's his right. There's no floor thinking that's attached with this and that part of it just confuses me and i thought peter king was on colin. Coward show today a good point. He said. I don't think it's facts coming out of the forty niners building. It's people covering the nfl guessing based on what they know about college shanahan. And that's what this entire process has been is been trying to figure out what shanahan wants and i think it's just a lazy narrative that mack jones the pick and i think the forty niners are completely okay with that like we talked about because they're misdirect mode and as long as it continues to run with mac jones. I think they won't do anything to deny it. They'll be completely fine with it. But you and i who have been putting on critical thinking hats on have continually said john beck who was cal. Shanahan's guy shanahan pounded the table to to get john back back in the draft. You know ten years ago or whatever. There's two guys that work with john. Belk justin feels and trae lance two guys that we think that are going to be there at three right no jones. Then there's two guys that rich guerrilla went to their pro days had four or specific workouts. They work. I think the last tenth throws or whatever were specific throws that rich gang directed that was justin fields in trae lands and yet these things just continue to be missed when it comes to mack jones. It's like people think despite all this. That cost is so arrogant that he knows based on film that jones the guy and i do not believe that. I don't think i'll shanahan operates that way and it just will. We'll find out on thursday night. But i just think it's one giant misdirection project kashan and has an opportunity to rewrite the narrative that people think about him and i think he's going to take full advantage of that so i just for many many reasons that it's not mad jones whether it's the people that he's going up against his traits his skill set. And then we just you know what do what does he do. That just feels are trae. Lance doesn't do and you cannot answer that question and then we also have to talk about projections. What you get with mike. Jones now is what he's going to be probably five years from now. Will you justin fills and trae lance. Now that's not even close to what they are going to get. Five years from now i would confidently say that. Their floors are probably his ceiling. So i just don't really that that he is the number three overall pick so i asked today on niners nation. Who is a prospect that you hope follows that you could potentially see the forty niners you the drafting or trading up for whether that's in the second round or the end of the first round. We had a ton of kayla farley out of virginia tech answer so sky james. The reason i bring that up. Scott james on facebook says that farley slips and the reason i would be terrified of that is because he had a second surgery on march twenty six so not even a month ago and farley came out and said he so far we still have some weakness in one of his big toe. So that's suggesting the nerve hasn't fully recovered since last procedure but quote unquote. That's a normal stage of recovery. And that's ongoing. He has a bad back. One of my friends. Text me today. That and they said mean farley have the same bad had the same back. That is an awful thing. That's think about like just imagine you invest a pre-olympic incapable farley and three games in. He's still not fully recovered based on what we have. We've seen with jalen hurd. That should scare the bejesus out of you and not comparing not saying that. This is the same injury just knowing. What ford yeah. Exactly the forty niners have gone down this road far too many times so when it comes to these injuries i just wouldn't do it man like if it's a guy who you know doesn't have the same injury history and even if they're closing comparison as far as skill goes i wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole i honestly would not take him in the first First three rounds just because that's not going to let somebody else figure that if you turned out to be a great player like we assume that he is the great and he is like think of the production that he's had so per sports info solutions caleb early targeted ninety five times in his career in the twosies that virginia tech he broke up twenty eight passes and had six interceptions. That is unreal production. So if he is healthy he will be a star but there is always a but and there's a reason that he's falling and i'm not going to be the reason. I'm not going to be the reason to take that. Dan has a question faso. Dan says think do you think that's why he was so sick at the presser. That's why people think so little of him that he can't evolve. That is a great point. And i haven't really thought about that. Maybe so there's no maybe about it. Kyle came out and said he goes on social media after the games whether it's winter loss and it's it's usually inflated in this scenario Mack jones to the forty niners is guber inflated. That's all you see every day. And i have a fun time with it because i'm going to just make jokes and have fun and it means about it but i could see a guy like that who has an ego. He's a head coach in the nfl. He thinks highly of himself for good reason. But if all you're seeing is oh he's gonna take jones because that's his guy then. Of course i i don't mind that at all then. I think that's a good point. What do you think about that. Yeah college has a massive ego. And i don't fault them for if you're in the nfl you're one of the top of minds everyone's constantly compliment to you. I would too but then when they do that they also give you the caveat that yeah you constantly are stuck with these middling quarterbacks who don't have high physical tools. That's the type of player that you're always associated with. Of course it's gonna frustrate you right. You wanna be viewed in the light. That andy. reid. Or sean payton or someone like that as a winner right now call. Shanahan is viewed that way right. He's just viewed as a good offense. Mind so i'm sure his ego has taken a hit and you saw a little bit of that with the jimmy garoppolo complaining like you. You made the point earlier right. He's kind of like. Yeah i had to work with this guy who's always hurt and that's why we've been losing and we can't be in that position over the next four years right if you were to just sort of put together. His words over his last press crawford press conference. Is this what he's getting. And so yeah. I think he. He's frustrated with that but at the end of the day. I don't think you necessarily cares. What people on social media have to say even though he locks on to see what people are saying. I think i just think it doesn't bother him but Yeah i think is a massive ego so think about everything that was asked on monday during the press conference. And here's how here's how tied. In we are two quarterbacks it took grant cone to ask a non quarterback question and that is the. I've i'm pretty sure that was the only quarterback questions about twenty seven. Thirty minutes of the presser so greco ask john lynch. Are you guys gonna pick up. Mike mcglinchey fifth year option and without hesitation. Mike urge john was like yeah. We've been touch with you know my camp and we're going to pick up his option so in two thousand twenty two. She's gonna make just under eleven million dollars and that makes him the fifth highest right fifth highest. Paid right tackle. I don't think that's bad for mike. Mcglinchey and i know people are people think that he's the worst player ever but one galaxy brain take that i had early in the process was to not pick up might mcglinchey fifth year option. Take advantage of the strong of class office of line class because there are some legitimate does in this class and use that pick that you got back in return for mike lynch on tackle but kashan has been on record saying that you don't trade a player and then replace him with draft. Pick so in doing that information to see if he said anything so instantly he said no. Was there any surprise for you. That the forty niners picked up a mcglinchey fifth year option. It's funny that you say you don't trade away a player and then replace him with the draft. Pick it they. Did you win deforest. Buckner devan can law. So that tells you how much you should really take. Kyle shanahan word in a press conference at thou face value But yes. I'm not surprised i think you and i are at the forefront of the mike mcglinchey true thor's where Yeah i mean he has bad pass block reps but these fantastic in the run game. And i think he's better than he gets credit for in the past game and i think that's something. He's knows that he is a strong soup for him in. He's vowed to put more weight and work on technique or whatever the case is To improve in. I at that value of ten or eleven million dollars like you said. I think it's a steel especially considering. He stayed healthy for sixteen games last season. And all of a sudden adjustment fields or trey lance behind him and maybe a couple of the reps that he misses those guys make magic happen. People don't even talk about it right and that's what you'd hope From this season with mike lynch ea. So let's tie the two together. So daniel mayer on youtube asked. Did you guys catch kyle. Couldn't help but say the injury issue where the injury issue is where it starts in quotes with jimmy garoppolo. That's talking about going back to the play with mike. Mcglinchey is speaking about malindi. No matter if it's mac. Jones trae lance justin fields. The forty niners offers of line instantly is better because they have a different quarterback just because of the pocket presence of those three and. I know that they are rookies. And i know jimmy. Garoppolo is about to be thirty years old but their pocket. Presence is night and day compared to jimmy just because they know where to go the ball there. Isn't this happy feet. They're not fazed by pressure. So i don't think my mcglinchey is going to be as big of an issue. Because he's not playing with whether it's jimmy order. The backup. quarterbacks are playing. I don't think they have you know. They're just the quarterbacks. I just named the rookies are just so much better. Whether it's under pressure or in the pocket as far as navigating and moving around and sure landfields fields are going to be able to run. But even i think jones gets a bad rap as far as his pocket mobility. I think he could move a lot better than people. Give them credit for dan. I agree and and this was again. You mentioned earlier. This college shanahan just starting to kind of change. The narrative a little bit. I felt like about why the forty niners won a lot of games over the past few years and he was front. I thought that was his most honest. Answer he just said yeah. We can't deal with the injuries anymore. We can't have quarterbacks the most important position in sports and he's missed over fifty percent of the games right and it's as simple as that. But you and i know it goes well beyond just the injuries even when he's on the field while the team has won if you just look at the process. Not the results. The process hasn't been good and That i am sure played a role in the forty niners. Move up to three. Chris rock johnson on youtube. As i can't says i can't see a dimension of the universe where this regime passes homes watson fills and lance. Could you imagine. Let's pretend that it's going to be mack jones even though it will not if it is mcdonald's i will let christopher johnson tweet from nine nation handle for a week straight merry christmas. But since it won't be chris. You're not going to anyway so imagine four years from now forty-nine halfback jones who will be a good quarterback by the way if it is if you fill in a lot of games that scenario and my buddy said galina said this from pf mack. Jones needs the forty niners. The forty niners don't need john's so if he is on the niners it'll be he'll be a good quarterback but that doesn't mean that fills lance won't be no matter where they go because i feel like no matter or independent of the situation fields and lance are gonna be star and with that in mind imagine. Just think for years from now you have moms. You have it yes. He has a current situation where we know. He's a superstar. Those are two of the best quarterbacks in the nfl. And i feel pretty comfortable saying that feels had a chance to be a star. Lance has a chance to be a star if both of those to blow up and kyle has to live with that. Oh man i. I don't know i don't know how much longer you keep him around. If you're jed york. I'm probably the biggest and fan on this planet. That was long before he became the forty niners head coach. I know he's an office mastermind. But i mean you got to get out of your way at some point in being able to pass on these two guys who are lance is still a baby man. Fields twenty two. He started two years so We have not come close to seeing. How good these two can be. Yeah cal shanahan's viewed as an offensive genius right now and rightfully so. And i think he would not live it down if he passed on those four quarterbacks if passed on those four guys. And we you. And i fully expect fields lance depending on the situation. They land into to blossom into high level. Nfl starters and potential stars. He won't live that down he. He's barely moving down. The patrick mahomes to shawn watson thing and the only reason that he's living that down because they made the super bowl in twenty nineteen Theoretically justify their plan because it worked for that one season. But i don't think he can. He can have a repeat of that and that's why they've been more thorough in this process. I think in involving a guy. Like john beck who i think. Caution a henry trusts. They're basically running their on minicamp down and so cal right putting these guys through the wringer this past month with their work ethics like seeing how they operate under sanur. Seeing what they're intangibles are like how they interact with everybody all that kind of stuff so i think he's doing full due diligence. That time this time. Which makes me even more confident that it's not mac One of those guys ultimately you get one of those guys with kyle shanahan and it's rocket ship. And we're we're off to the races i think. So matt maiocco nbc. Sports forty nine. Hundred everything i mean. He is the godfather essentially. He came out with fields. Might be the most physically talented of the group. Heck you might also be the smartest but it sure looks like his foot. Work in the pocket needs a lot of attention. He might have the highest ceiling. He might have the lowest floor. How do you feel about that. Just added to the list of work near real quick. Not to interject matt is on record on his podcast saying that he doesn't really watch. These guys are in-depth and he talks the scouts so this is probably coming from a scott. This isn't more than likely. This is not coming from america. So i want to make sure that i did that on. Isn't that you're right. it's not. I don't think it's matt's evaluation it's mats mats. The messenger may go But of just what was said. They're just added to the list of things. People are criticizing johnson fields. For man i feel like every year one guy gets a bad rap. Last year was justin herber copiers ago. It was josh allen. Lamar jackson in a few years before that. It was shawn watson. Just someone gets put through the ringer and for some reason that happens to me. Justin fields nationally. they're talking about ability to process defenses. Go through progressions. They were talking about his work ethic at one point and now we're talking about his work in the pocket when there's literally clips. I can show you from the national championship. When justin fields is playing with broken ribs. He is in a pocket. That like you and i could barely fit into an. He's hitting dudes in tried down the field and so yet. I'm not saying he's the perfect prospect but there are plays on tape where you just. You're wild and so. I just think it's an air criticism. That of his footwork and the lowest floor thing. I think you and i both agree. You might have the highest floor in this draft class including trevor lawrence. You might be right up. There with. Trevor warns neck and neck so i have no idea why you'd think he has the lowest floor. There's a guy we think has the lowest floor. And we think he's going to go to exactly and i think he hasn't lowest floor personally. That was actually going to say i. I was wondering if you're gonna say mack jones about the lowest floor but to me. It's zack wilson. I'm not sure yeah. I don't feel like that's my ticket. All but yeah when you watch fields and that's a good point about bodies being all around him and i pretty much three times a week. I there's a park here and there's qb coach and he trains d one qb's and i love to watch that just to see what they're talking about in based on the work that he tells his kids just fields does it to a t. and i don't know what that quote that the let's assume that it came from scout. I'm not sure what he's talking about. Because whether it's against alabama or whether whether it's against fau builds feet are always in line with his target. that's why his accuracy does not waver when bodies around him because of that that is why his his floor is going to be very high. He is not flustered. Not phased by pressure and that is because he has good footwork so sure there are things that he needs to work on but i would not say that his feet are an issue so yeah i think just as far as his ceiling and his floor goes His ceiling is like superstar. Top five quarterback in the nfl. It think about it. He's a true junior and in his first season as a starter he was. I think his his quarterback he threw forty one touchdowns and forty one two three three s guy in his first season. That's what he did. You know how insure at the competition was always great. But i i don't know go ahead. I was going to turn this into a field slobber fest but that was when he transferred to high of state and had that awesome twenty thousand nine season. That was the first time he'd ever moved out of george right. He's from kennesaw georgia. Then he goes to university of georgia in the area leaves home go state new system new area new surroundings and absolutely in two thousand nineteen and i feel like the adversity aspect with justin fields. I feel like isn't brought up enough and it's something that is really hard to see. What some of these other prospects right do how did they respond through adversity. How they play through that. And i thought that something we saw just feels both in two thousand nineteen in twenty twenty s. He was getting peppered against northwestern. Indiana this will continue to be a slobber fest really guerrero because justin fields will be the pick at number three and we'll be out in front of that early and i cannot wait to brag about that specifically while producer rob. Let's move on here. So larry grant formed forty-nine he believes just fields is also going to be number three but to be fair he's a buckeye so of course he's gonna root for justin also said he believes that the forty niners trade back into the first at either twenty three or earlier because he wants ninety harris who he believes will go twenty four and thirty two. You mentioned nausea earlier to me real quick just on the player star completes the the knock on hamid's he's not going to give you home run because he doesn't like four whatever but if you watch alabama he has plenty of explosive plays in about the forty niners offense. There's so much space you don't have to run a four three to have six yard gain in the nfl. I think he would be the best receiving back on the forty niners that they've had in a long long time exterior if call shannon is able to hands on nausea harris. I can only imagine how that passing game takes off especially with a rookie quarterback that you know in the sense. We'll be able to hit them or hit is a harris on the wheel route. Said he loves so. I know that running back is not going to be popular. I know especially future up for her running back. They're going to get killed for it on twitter but just wait till sunday man if niger harris is indeed in their plans wait till week one and you will not be disappointed nightmares. How have you seen the ties to hairs with the forty nine inch throughout this process. Yeah so first off. I also think highly of of najji hairs. You watch when you watch mack jones. You realize how the the guys around him are freakishly talented. whether it's receivers harris and the plays that they make routinely are just eye opening and then you look at the guy off the field whether what it's what he said oppressors out. He's carried himself. Seems like a really really high level guy and think would be so one. That's awesome with the forty niners. Obviously he's from the bay area. I think from nor cal so would be coming home at players hometown. Team the connection to the forty niners so najji harris about a week after the forty niners of traded up from twelve to three Did a press conference. I think with nfl network. If i remember correctly and he said he thought the forty niners were gonna take him at twelve He went on and on about how they spent a lot of time with him bobby turner. Who's the running backs. Coach to zoom interviews with them are calls with him so he was in touch with the forty niners heavily during that time. And what that shows me. Is that the forty. Niners are intrigued. By what harris brings to the field and potentially and we know this once the forty niners fresh kyle. Shanahan likes the guy. They extremely aggressive care about like the draft picks or the value. They'll go get the player that they want and again a lot of people will be like running back. Why do we need that. whatever. I'll say the forty niners have ramose. Jeff wilson under contract this season i believe and so you got to think a little big picture here. Najah harris would instantly be what the best running back on the roster and someone that's under a roster control under team control for the next five years so i think you put those two pieces together and i could certainly see that the forty niners fall in love with that player they make a trade back up and around one and grab him so. I can see that happening on thursday night. If kyle shanahan pound the table for joe williams he better freakin pound the table harris. So nick our you to as what did you make of the trae lance ending on your interview with. That's the plan so for those of you who have not heard that yet. Please you go on our youtube channel right here. You can go. Niners nation dot com. You go on spotify listeners apple wherever it is you get your podcast. And of course subscribe right review but trae lance at the very end we. We're talking about. hey man. hopefully we're talking to you on thursday night and you're the number three overall pick like we want to root for you because if you just listen to the interview he makes it super easy route for his tells me He just seems like he's knowledgeable and aware and he pokes fun at himself. Like that was another thing. That was really fine like he didn't. He didn't take himself too serious too seriously and i really appreciated that. So akash that did you read into that. Did you think that. Maybe he got draft promise. Maybe he has heard something. Would you think yeah. I think he got up draft promise or anything like that. I think the forty niners truly haven't told any of these prospects who they're taking and they won't until thursday is what i believe how i took it is if you're a quarterback prospect and i said this on the forty niners traded up to number three. Why wouldn't you want to go play for cash in hand and san francisco forty niners eight. Let's start voyeurs one of the big brands in the nfl. If you're the quarterback for this team and you're good you're you're going to be like what view as one of the faces of the league. They're gonna put you on everything. You're just going to be the new on campus. So why wouldn't you want to go play for that. Second thing is just the roster. The coaching staff the stability that the organization provides. Of course you're going to want to go there right so that to me felt like a more personal experience if you're if you're like a job interview and you really really want the job you're like man that's the plan. I really want that job. But you have no idea how the company of the employers viewing you. And i think that's how i kind of took that from from trae lands so called more things here before we get out of here and i don't know how to pronounce your name mr tang so i'm not even going to pretend to mess it up but youtube asked. What do you think of kyle saying. If you're excited about a guy twelve you should be excited at a guy at three. And i stand what wanted to say. I understand that data is overrated in a sense. But that's not how this works. You can't do that because if they were excited at number for guide number twelve. They wouldn't have traded multiple first round picks to move up for a guy at number three. That's not yet it. it just didn't register me. Make sense if they wanted a guy at twelve if they wanted. Justin feels a twelve and they would stay in draft jason fields or trey lance or whoever it is that they wanted number three so yeah i. I knew what he meant. As far as value. Overvalue and draft picks. But kyle. that's not how this works and you know that don't lie our face like that cost. What do you think that's typical coach. speak right. a coach doesn't understand what the value is for. All he thinks is. Let me get that player. Living hands on let me coach him up. Let's go win some games. And so i think that's what kyle met. A lot of people took that to mean. Oh if i like mac jones at twelve i mean just trade. Three first round picks and go get him at three now. That's not what you meant. He's smarter than that like like you said he was trying to say something else i think but it just came out funny and people just interpreted it and ran with a differently. But that's not what he was getting up let's Let's make some predictions before. Get out of your speaking of twelve and three. And i imagine a lot of the media and where they're getting this mack jones info from is the forty niners probably loved mac jones at number twelve. Now that they're number. Three not an option and i will go on. I will say number three overall pick. My prediction is justin fields. Gosh what is yours. Justin fields the ohio state university. Were the wheel fall off number. Forty three overall. What position in what player They won't be picking up forty three. They're going to trade back into the first round. I predict technology hairs running back. yes alabama. Maybe you've heard of them. My prediction thursday. Night when you and i are doing the forty niners media. We're going to talk to justin fields and naci hairs. That would be lovely because the takes for running back in the first round will be out of control and i cannot wait but nausea. Harris is a first round player. So i would have no issue with that. I am going to say they trade up but not for nausea harris. I'm going to say that. Greg newsom falls a little bit it just enough because jaycee orange go. Patrick is going to go. And then ser tans gonna slip because of quarterbacks and because the other positions are going to go and the forty niners able to jump to the twenties and select greg newsom with their number forty three overall pick and let's say another future third rounder oak compaq. Whatever it may be to move up a few spots. Are i guess in this sense. 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