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"Say it while you're there. I found it really irritating when I was at NPR and people would leave who had never said anything while they were there. And then once they're out the door, they start pontificating on Twitter. I don't like it. Where you can make change and effect change is when you're at an organization. You know, speaking up is really hard. But the purpose is not to damage the institution ever because these institutions have huge value. I'm a huge believer in them. Do they all have to change all of them? I mean, sure, sure. But like, are they a value in this world? Do we need them? I'm still a huge believer in that. Someone said to me, like if they broke your bones, I'd always thought that they'd find NPR like sort of tattooed inside. And I was like, maybe they still will. And The New York Times now. I'm a big believer. That we need these things in our society. And so the purpose is never to damage the institution. I'm just one person who left for a whole bunch of reasons. You've been part of a couple of institutions now, AP NPR, New York Times. As someone who has spoken up when part of those institutions, do you think that they are a genuinely getting better and be genuinely trying? Yes. And no. Like, yes, I think genuinely trying, I think so, because I think a lot of organizations have come to realize that this is sort of existential for them. That they can't keep doubling down on the same shrinking audience and that they have to find new ways of engaging. And bringing in different voices and then once you bring in these voices, that's going to change the way things are done. But I think we're in the middle of this really big experiment. You're seeing a play out all the time every day, just look on any news headlines, what's happening at the post, what's happening at any news organization, and you're seeing a lot of these forces kind of at play. Because the thing that's so hard is that we report on the news, but we are also of the culture. And so the same things that are affecting the things that we report on are also affecting us inside. And so I don't look at it and say, you're doing a terrible job. Because I remember being at NPR when the me too thing happened and we were reporting on me too, we were experiencing it in the newsroom. I was experiencing it in my own personal life with friends and family, suddenly talking about experiences that I didn't even know had happened. And so you were just battered on all sides while still having to kind of cover things. And so I think that we're as a society in a huge moment of realignment. That's what you're seeing. Everyone's litigating Do you find that energizing? No, I find it exhausting sometimes. And I find it really hard to navigate because there's no certainty. And I started this by saying I like to live in the gray, but gee, if there's certainty, it's nice, right? And there's no certainty anymore. And I've changed my viewpoint on what I think about so many things. What's an example of that? What do you think of when you say that? I'm kind of thinking of like the person who walked in as a kind of slightly feral foreign correspondent through the door of NPR to sit and helm a show of millions of people in America, wondering what the hell I had to say to them. And then coming out the other side now on this other new experiment trying to figure out how to move people to listen to things that they don't want to listen to. Or hear people in different ways, and I think that journey has been really, really hard and fraught and filled with pitfalls and me kind of doubling back on myself and at certain points being like, man, I don't want to hear anything anymore. I'm tired of all the noise and cacophony and having real existential doubts about my role as a journalist in the world, like what the hell am I doing here? Why am I doing this job? Nobody cares. Nobody likes me, not even my own family, which is like a politically divided family. The only thing they can agree on is that they hate journalists. And so you have these terrible moments of just like this sucks. Who hasn't felt that? These past two years during the pandemic and the political up people who hasn't thought like this..
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"I feel less compelled to be in those spaces now. I find the intellectual battlefields. Just as compelling, really? Yeah, that's what this is now. That's what this podcast is. Yeah. Yeah, I do. And a bunch of saying that, I really do. It took me a while when I became a hosted NPR. It was hard, it was so hard. Yeah, I mean, that's what I was going to ask about. Was it boring? No, it wasn't boring. What it was was like, oh my God, I'm so used to being physically unconstrained to wake up in the morning and every day is different and I get to decide what that day looks like. At that point I'd been living in Brazil for four years and it's like, am I going to go to the Amazon? Am I going to go cover the World Cup? You know, am I going to go do the donkey festival? There's an enormous variety to the work. And you get to decide what your day looks like. And there's a lot of physical kind of moving around. And then all of a sudden, I had never sat in a studio like this. And I was like, wait a second. What is this? I got to come back here tomorrow? I got to come back. No, it was horrible, and also the office culture thing was super hard for me. I mean, I didn't have any clothes to wear. I didn't know what people were to the office. I was feral. Listen, I had been covering things in countries like Cuba, authoritarian regimes in the Middle East. And I was just being tapped and followed and expelled from countries. And so when I was first a host, I was like, you know, looking under the desk to see if I was like, if there was like a Tapping mechanism. I think that's where my boring question came from. It was just like, if you go from being expelled in Cuba to being like, did you hear what Frank said at that meeting? That just seems boring to me. But wait a second, but this is the difference. The job, though, what I came to understand was so much more intellectually freeing. I got to Rome so much more widely. So the Lulu that was the Lulu, who was doing these things in these spaces was like this very serious Lulu, who was hovering these very serious things. And I wasn't really able to indulge my love of, for example, science fiction and fantasy books, romance novels, celebrity culture. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that makes up me. And so when you ask me, when we started with this question, like, how would you explain your life? I would say that I'm more than this thing that I did. And actually becoming a host like that allowed me to kind of get back to myself, anchor myself in the wider facets of who I am because as a host as you know, you kind of have to fill the space. Yeah, that's what I would say about that. It really actually kind of brought me back to myself. It was hard. But I did it. So you had this time as a host, you reconnected with yourself, you're no longer just living in these high stakes decisions every day, but you get to play in all of these different spaces. And then last fall, you decide to leave, take this job at the times, working in the opinion division. Very shortly on the heels of that announcement, Audie Cornish left, Sam Sanders. All of these hosts. Tanya Mosley. Tanya Moseley, all these hosts, particularly a bunch of people of color who are hosting shows for the NPR left. Yes. My question is, what the hell is going on at NPR? So I am going to answer very carefully. And I'll tell you why. Because I love NPR. I spent 17 years of my career at NPR. I love all the people who I worked with. And I have come to see that it does a real disservice to the sort of rank and file when someone who's walked out the door. Starts to kind of pontificate when they don't have skin in the game. I said everything I had to say while I was there, I was never one of the kind of wilting wallflowers that only found courage on the way out. And so I don't know that I have a lot more to say about that other than I left for many reasons. There wasn't just one. And some of those reasons had to do with, again, mental health, the pandemic hit me hard. I was incredibly depressed. I, from previous associations with mental health, realized that I needed to make a change. And so that was really the sort of driving force. But there's no question. And I will speak for myself that there were pay equity issues, there were issues of just how valued I felt my contributions were. And so the decision to leave is never really about one thing. It's about a lot of things. It was the time to go do something else. And this is a great thing to go and do. And so I felt like I was leaving on a high and going to something great. And so isn't that the kind of thing that is the way you want to do it, if you're going to do it? Yeah. Totally. I actually really respect that answer. And agree with that sentiment of if you're going to say it, say.
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"Up happening and I'm not saying to everyone, but to me. Is that all that other stuff, the stuff that makes up you the stuff about the Starbucks and the hitting the gym and that all I'm going to talk to my best friend and I'm going to go have dinner. Like the stuff that makes life pleasurable and fun and makes you connected to your community, that stuff kind of recedes into the background because you feel like every moment is so high stakes. And so that's why a lot of correspondents who cover this stuff. And I saw clarissa talking about this with you on the show. That it's really hard when you come back to kind of reconnect with people's regular stuff. I mean, we used to be bummers at dinner parties. You know, we come back from Iraq and we'd be like, the war. It's terrible. Do you know how terrible it is? And people want that for like one minute. And then they're like, dude, yeah, but I just want to have a drink and talk about the latest marvel movie. And so you can feel really disconnected. And it's hard to find your way back to that. It's hard to find your way, like who am I in the world if I'm not covering this war? You can start to float away from all the things that give you joy and connection and can anchor you. It's interesting that you say joy and bring up that interview with claris because what I heard her saying about it was like I used to feel guilty about the things that brought me joy and now I hold on to them for dear life and they're the thing that make it possible to do this work but what I hear you saying is like if you're living there and you're dealing with the stakes of those choices day after day after day after day after day that that weight can get pretty heavy. Oh my God, it's overwhelming and then you don't find joy anymore and that's what happened to me. That was my journey towards post traumatic stress disorder. I would spend two months to three months in Iraq. This is one post traumatic stress disorder first reared its head. And then we would get a break. And we get to go somewhere, right? For a month, or two weeks, depending. And I didn't have sort of a fixed address because I was living in Iraq. And so me and my then boyfriend would travel. And it would be normal that we would come out and the first couple of days we'd feel really exhausted and down. Because, you know, the physical stress, the mental stresses, as you can imagine, considerable, but then we'd always go somewhere fun and you'd feel buoyant and you'd eat well and you drink well and you'd feel like the cares would dissipate. It came to be that two days would pass three days would pass four days would pass. And that weight was still there. And then maybe it would lift. And then it just didn't lift. And not only did it not lift, but I would find myself on the streets of a normal place when nothing bad was happening. And I would feel this incredible anxiety. This dread would just come over me like something terrible was about to happen. And I wouldn't feel like that in war zones. I would feel that only in places where there was no threat. And what I came to realize is that I was suppressing so much of our natural instinct and our healthy instinct to fear in the places where I really should have felt it. And that it was manifesting itself where I felt safe to express it. And so, but what that ends up doing to your life, as you can imagine, isn't great. Sounds like totally healthy and balanced. Yeah, totally, right? You're like in the upside down world. You're like, wait, where I should be feeling afraid. I'm feeling completely like this is the surroundings where I know how to function. And in the normal places, I'm feeling terrified and like I don't know what to do. And so that's what happens to some of us. And is that what led you to go and sort of take a more office Y job? And more office Y job. So no, what ended up happening was this. Because I didn't take a more office job. I went to Brazil. But what led me out of the Middle East and covering, you know, full on bang bang wars. Was that my husband got a call from his foreign editor, one fine morning. Asking him to sneak into Syria. And I just was like, we're done. I don't want this to be my life anymore. It was like that. It was that quick. That's what it is. But that's what it is. That's what the job is. The job is that. If you're covering these things, the job is, how are you going to get to the worst place in the world as quickly as possible? And for me, it just kind of was like, I don't think this is super great. And so I got pregnant. I mean, not because of that, I wanted a child. And then once I was pregnant, you know, I was still in the Middle East. I was still covering stuff, but once that happened, I just decided that wasn't going to be what I did anymore. I was kind of done with that particular thing. Do you miss it at all? Yes and no. So when Ukraine happened, you know, I immediately was like, I want to go. It's that old tug, right? It's that thing that says, I know how to do this and I know how to do it really well. But I think at a certain point, I mean, at least I have to be like, you know, that's my hubris speaking. That's my vanity speaking. That's a lot of stuff speaking that may be isn't necessarily true. Do I need to be there? Is there something that actually is compelling about me being there? And so ultimately, I didn't go. I would have gone, but I didn't. And I think I now really think about why I'm doing things. And what is the purpose of that in a way that I didn't used to? And I guess that's it. It's not to say that I wouldn't go back and cover this stuff..
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"You'll hear from all the incredible reporters at Fox, and elsewhere to talk about Congress, taxes, housing policy, midterms, student loan debt, just a huge fruit basket of policy. Help make sense of politics by subscribing to the weeds wherever you get your podcasts. What was that like showing up in Kosovo? Crazy. How old were you? I mean, I was in my late 20s. Like I said, I started late in this job. So I was like 28. And it blew my mind. It blew my mind. I had no idea how to function. I didn't know really what I was supposed to be doing, and then also it was just overwhelming. It was refugees poring over the border into Albania, which I had never been to. And I was really struggling to figure out what this was. And what my role as a journalist was. And at the same time, it was incredibly exciting because it felt like all of a sudden that purpose that I had been looking for while I was wandering around. Yeah. You know, it felt pretty clear to me there what my purpose was. Practically speaking, I wasn't really sure what I was supposed to be doing as a journalist, but the big idea behind it, I fully understood, which was I was there to tell and report on what was happening. And to make sure that people understood what really was happening there on the ground. And while that was scary it was also exhilarating. Yeah. It's a weird thing about covering conflict, which is that we wrap ourselves often in the mantle of reflected heroism, I would say, which is we're there to tell a story and amplify the voices and do all these things, and there is real risk to it. That is the driving force of it. There's no question. But I would challenge anyone who does it not to say that they're also is something just incredibly exhilarating about it because it feels so essential and it feels like you are at the heart of something really, really important and it can give you an amazing amount of meaning, especially in the work that you do. And so it just feels like you are at the center of something. Yeah, there's a high to it. There is a high. For sure, it's addictive. More than that, it's addictive. And you chased it for a long time. You know, I don't know that I chased it. I was given it. Like, I did well in that assignment. And then I got sent to Columbia in the middle of their Civil War, and then Afghanistan happened, and I got a call and they said, do you want to go to Kabul? Was there ever one of those things that you said no to? No, no, never. Never, never. And when you said you did well. What is doing well mean? Yeah. Is that like a thing you can get better at? Yeah. Conflict reporting? Any kind of reporting can't you get better at it? Yes, I think my goodness, the things that I know now and the things that I didn't know then could fill the Grand Canyon. What are those? I mean, what did you learn? How do you get better at that specific type of this work? So I think the way that you get better at that specific work is not about the craft, although that's definitely part of it, and I could talk to you about the craft. But what I would say it's the sensibility, it's in fact the opposite of what you think, which is you learn over time that good conflict reporting is less about the front lines and more about what's happening. Away from the battle and how the forces are shifting in a society. And how the conflict is breaking down certain groups and reconfiguring places. And you kind of learn to figure that out over time and you also, I think, really learn a ton, a shit ton of empathy. I mean, I think at the beginning, it's really overwhelming. It's a sensory overload. And then once you know kind of what you're doing in these spaces, you really learn to kind of focus in on the quieter, literally, less bombastic places. What are happening to the mothers? What are happening behind the closed doors in the village? What is going on that you're not seeing, that's not just playing out in front of you with guns and people trying to blow each other up. And so that for me became part of the draw over time. But I'll be honest with you. I lived in the places that I covered. I didn't just go in and drop in for a couple of weeks and then go back and live in wherever London in New York. I mean, I was living in Iraq for years. I lived in Jerusalem for years, you know? I was in Kabul for a long time, and Latin America also, you know, a different kind of war, but a conflict all the same. So it's a different experience when you're living in a place than when you're dropping in and you can leave. Yeah, I mean, that's part of what I've always struggled to understand about that work is just how you wrapped your head that quickly around dynamics that are that complex. You know, like the parachute in for correspondent things seems almost impossibly hard. It is hard. It is hard and I respect the people who do that work. And I would almost maybe say, I don't know, could it be healthier to not be living in the place that you're covering for years? And it's like completely crazy. There is a pejorative connotation to the parachute journalist, but a lot of the people who do this work are repeatedly going into the same places. They just have families, or they choose to live elsewhere for sanity's sake, that wasn't the kind of experience that I had. You were in particularly interested in insanity. I mean, I suffered from post traumatic stress disorder. I had, I mean, I've been very public about my struggles covering conflict and living in conflict. I mean, the thing that kept me saying for most of it was that I actually had my partner with me. My now husband, my then boyfriend, was also a war correspondent. And so we lived there together. And so I had a measure of stability in having kind of a close relationship, someone who was there to kind of see me through it. I think oftentimes what can happen when you go to these places is that you feel very unmoored from the things that make you you outside of this space. Can you say a little bit more about that? Can you help me understand what that means? Yeah, like what goes away? Oh gosh, everything. If you have to wake up in the morning and the choices that you make are going to decide whether you live or die. It's a really, really, really heavy thing. You know? And I don't say that lightly. It just means like, I have a job to do there, which is covering a war. Covering a war is dangerous. And it's not only I'm risking my life, I am working with other people. Who are from that place. And I'm risking their life. And yet, I still have to do it because that's my job. And so you're having to make these decisions all the time that seems so crazy to anyone else, right? Like you're living your life and most people wake up and decide, hey, am I going to go to Starbucks or am I going to, you know, before I hit the gym and bagel head to work? This morning, yeah. I don't know. And so, but the thing that you're waking up to is like, okay, I have to go report in this place where there has just been an attack and how am I going to get there safely or safely as possible? Who am I going to bring with me? What route am I going to take? I mean, it's just like a whole different series of assessments that you're making..
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"So if part of the idea is to have people really listen in a way that they wouldn't have otherwise, are you bringing different viewpoints to the choir? Yeah, I think so. I think that's very intentionally the point, part of the challenge of having put together this podcast and it has been challenging is really trying to find viewpoints that are going to surprise people that are going to make them think about something slightly differently that are going to complicate their view of the world. And so yeah, I think that is very much the intention. I mean, it's hard, right? It's hard because the people who will gravitate towards certain types of podcasts, certain types of newspapers are going to maybe have a perceived uniformity of thought. But I think the goal is always to complicate that. And I think that's what good opinion does. It really tries to kind of take your view of the world and say, wait, have you thought about this though? Or do you know about this or can you put yourself in somebody else's shoes? Do you enjoy it getting more complicated for you? Is that fun or uncomfortable? I think it's uncomfortable. I mean, I think change is hard. I think trying to push yourself beyond your limits is hard. I think it's completely necessary. I spent a lot of my career working in war zones. Some of the most extreme places in the world. And what I learned from that is that you have to sort of push yourself. Because life is full of challenges. And you kind of either meet them head on, or they're going to overtake you one way or the other. So for me, I actually like the complicated space, the gray spaces, the spaces that aren't super black or white. Can we take the clock back there and talk a little bit about that time in your life? Was that always the goal to be a war reporter? No, it wasn't the goal. I didn't know that that was a thing. That I was going to do at all, actually. It took me a while to figure out that I was going to be a journalist. I started late after college. I went backpacking and I found myself in Southeast Asia, teaching English in Cambodia. And I tried to get a job at the Phnom Penh post, which is an English language paper there. And the Cambodia daily, which was an English language paper there, and they both looked at me like I what are you doing here? You have no experience. And they were right. I had never done my college paper. I had never done it on my high school paper. I had not had any experience, but what intrigued me about it was as I was sort of traveling in the world. I realized that I actually wanted to understand what I was doing there. That I didn't after a while enjoy just the experience of kind of floating through in the way that you do and not really understanding the culture or having a purpose really in being there other than your own sort of journey of self fulfillment. You wanted to complicate it a little bit. I wanted to complicate it a little bit. And so I ended up sort of going to London and then realizing that I had no idea again how to become a journalist. Like I just didn't have any contacts in the industry. I didn't know even how to start. But I did know that I wanted to be involved in international reporting. That was the thing that drew me. That was the thing that I was really fascinated by. And so I ended up going back to school to do a journalism course in London, which was very vocational. And because it is so vocational in the UK at that time, I took a broadcast course and in the UK, they have a wonderful tradition of audio back then radio. And they didn't have a TV studio because it was a kind of public institution that couldn't afford a TV studio. And so I got into radio that way by default. And then I had a wonderful mentor, The Associated Press, and my first internship, who kind of took me on as a freelancer, and then the cost of a war happened, and she had been doing this for a long time. And she said, do you want to go? And I said, yeah, I want to go. And that was my first exposure to that kind of reporting. And it just gripped me and that's what took me through. Most of my career. Until I became a host. Unexplainable is a.
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"lulu garcia navarro" Discussed on Longform Podcast
"Max, what do you have? Exciting for us this week. What do I have exciting for you this week? I have this exciting. It's Lulu Garcia Navarro. She is, as you guys probably know, long time NPR reporter and host she was a conflict reporter for many years, reported from Iraq and Kosovo and all kinds of places. And then she came back, she was a host of weekend edition at NPR, and now she has a podcast with The New York Times. It just debuted last week. It's called first person, it's in the opinion section of The New York Times. It's an interview show. She's good at interviewing. And so we talked about that, but we also talked about the switch from being out in the field to being behind a desk. We talked about all kinds of things. And it was enjoyable. For me. We are brought to you in partnership with vox media. They help us produce this show. Thanks to everyone at vox. Wait, I have something else I want to say before we end this introduction. Let's hear it. Evan has a new podcast out. It's called persona. Evan give the full title. Persona, the French deception. I want you to go search for that right now. Subscribe to it and help the long form bump continue. I'm just going to keep the bump going as long as possible. Persona and podcast apps everywhere. Thank you, Aaron. And now here's max with Lulu Garcia Navarro. Hi Luke. Hi. Thanks for coming on the podcast. I am so excited to be here. I'm about to do something that I've never done before. It's the first time, which is I'm going to quote a press release. Oh, oh no, really? That is exciting. I mean, it's either exciting or terribly lame. But I'm gonna do it 'cause I don't think it's hard to believe. I gotta press release. About your new podcast. It's called first person. It's with The New York Times. I have many questions for you about it. But at the top of the press release, was a question, which is, if you were asked to explain your life, what would you say? And that's where I'm going to start. If you were asked to explain your life, what would you say? Well, I would say that if that was the only question that would be a really hard question to answer. I'm done that. Now you just talked for like 45 minutes in my head. For 45 minutes. I think that's the start of the provocative idea behind this podcast, which is what leads you to believe what you believe. What is it that has taken you to a certain point in your life where you kind of understand the world in a certain way? And I always found in my interviews. The most interesting part was when I would say, why do you think that? Because often especially in news interviews, you kind of getting through the business, right? There's sort of telling you the thing that they came to tell you about whatever it is that's in the news. And maybe if you have some time at the end, you'll sort of try and get a bit of backstory. And the thing that I've always been so engaged in is that whenever you ask that there is often a sort of surprising provocative, personal story about why someone is invested in whatever it is that they're talking about. And so I think that is where that particular idea comes from. This podcast though does something a little bit different, which is talking to real people and I hate that word. It's such journalism speak. Real people because nobody else is real. Right, no one else counts. Nobody else counts except like whatever the imaginary real person is, but what I mean by that is just people who aren't practice necessarily in the art of being able to spew out their life in a cohesive, linear, clear manner in the way that we journalists like, you know, where it has a beginning, a middle, and an end, and it perfectly wraps up in a bow, and we're all like, yay. We understand. And so if you ask anybody, what was it that got you to this place, unless you've written a book about it or an essay you might really not know the answer to that question, and I found in doing these interviews that people have kind of gone, huh. I'm not sure. Let me think about that for a moment. Yeah, I mean, my goal in interviews all the time is just to get people thinking out loud. Right. And the more interviews that people do, the harder it is to get them to do that, I think. Totally. That was a good first question. You totally threw me for a loop. I was like, if I had to explain my life, you know? In the service of what? Do you think you're getting off the hook that easy? 'cause I have follow-ups around that. Good. If part of the idea of what you're trying to ask people is like, where does the motivation to do the thing that you do come from? Where does the origin of this belief that you have come from, what is that for you? I mean, you have had this decorated career. You've done reporting all over the world. Why is this what you do? I mean, then we really would have to go back. No. Go on. We do. We do, I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. I'm going to answer this before I'm going to say this thing, which is one of the things in doing this podcast that we spend a lot of time talking about is where you start the clock. You have to start with a moment. What is the beginning point of your conversation? And for some people, it goes back to their childhood. I could answer that question and say, when I was a kid, I was growing up in Miami, and I was a Latina. And I actually didn't realize it not everyone was Cuban around me. I didn't grow up as a minority. I grew up in Miami and everyone spoke Spanish, and it was surprising to me later in life that actually I was a minority in this country. And, you know, I was always a kid who liked to ask questions and talk to people. I could start the clock there. Or I could start the clock and say, you know, when The New York Times called me and said, hey, there's this thing that we're thinking of doing where we're going to delve into why people think the way they do, that to me was so intriguing because I just feel like at this particular moment no one wants to listen to anybody else. You know, nobody necessarily really wants to know what people's opinions are where they come from because at this point we're so polarized and entrenched. And I find that that space, what you're talking about, where people are thinking out loud and they're wrestling with something and they're trying to figure it out. It's much more interesting than the spaces in which we find ourselves now where everyone's like, oh, I know what I think. And more than that, I know what you think. And so that's what I mean by starting the clock. So there's a bunch of reasons why I wanted to do this. But for me, it's sort of the culmination of the stuff that I've done for a long time, which is try and talk to people about how their lives intersect in a bigger story about our world. Do you think at all about not just the people you're talking to, but the audience, they are talking to, I wonder if you're thinking about the audience that the times reaches and how much diversity of thought is in there..
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"I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. One of the biggest questions surrounding the conservatorship of Britney Spears is how a woman who's been able to perform cut records and work for her millions of dollars is somehow unfit to make decisions about her own life. She has been subject to her conservatorship, which gave control of her to her father, Jamie Spears and others for 13 years and in dramatic courtroom testimony last month, she claimed she's being abused by her father, among others on her conservatorship team. Jamie Spears is now asking for those allegations to be investigated by the court, and he has denied wrongdoing, saying his acting in his daughter's best interests A new article from The New Yorker magazine has fresh details about why Britney Spears was put into this arrangement and why she is so desperately trying to get out. It's by JIA Tolentino and Ronan Farrow and JIA Tolentino joins me now. Hello. Hi, Lulu. It's great to be here. You have an astonishing amount of detail about this story. I think at the heart of it, though. It's about Britney's love for her kids, right? Yeah, I mean, take us back to 2007. When the paparazzi was saying Britney was quote going crazy. What was really going on behind the scenes? Yes. So this is an aspect of the story that I don't think has been central enough to the public narrative around her so called breakdown. So she's in her early mid twenties. She got married six months after meeting Kevin Federal, I and, you know, has two Children within 12 or 13 months of each other. You know, many people who are closer around the time suspect that she was dealing with severe postpartum depression, and we have to remember how famous she was how central she was to a tabloid industry that was reaching its all time aggressive peak. Everywhere she goes. There's mobs of paparazzi, you know, jumping out of their cars in the middle of the road, chasing her down on foot flashbulbs everywhere, shouting provocations to get her to break down. And so she gets divorced when she is still nursing her two month old second child, the more that she's not with her Children, the more she sort of spirals, the more she spirals, the less likely it is that she will have access to her Children in the future. And I think it's important to note that the two incidents that sort of cemented that era as her quote unquote crazy era when she shaved her head, and when she hit the paparazzi's car with an umbrella. Those were directly preceded by her driving to Kevin Federline's house. Followed by photographers asking to see the Children and being refused. And then enters a man called Sam Lutfi who got very close to spears. Can you briefly explain who he is? Yes. So Sam Light feet. He's this sort of obscure Hollywood operator with undefinable, somewhat suspicious motives, a history of legal disputes. But he swoops into her life after Britney has fired her longtime manager Larry Rudolph, and he sort of assumes this controlling role. And what Lotfy told us in an interview that one of the things that Created this conflict between him and Britney's parents, who were genuinely worried about her and worried that he was exploiting her was that he would tell her you want to cancel that meeting. Go ahead and cancel it. You want to buy this car on impulse? Just buy it and her parents become afraid that he is just going to siphon her money off While she's in crisis that, you know she's going to end up underwater and debt exploited sort of drained of this fortune that she has built. And you and your colleague Ronan Farrow got to speak with a woman called Jacqueline Butcher. Close friend, Um, to the Spears is for a long time, and she testified 13 years ago to create the conservative ship because she wanted Spears also away from lefties influence, But she now regrets that. What did she tell you? So Jaclyn Butcher was a close friend of Lynne Spears and close to the Spears family for close to a decade, and she was present in Britney's house. And, you know, I had good reason to believe that the parents were right in thinking. Maybe this crisis is due to this man Sam Lutfi that is in her house at this time of breakdown, and she gives this primary testimony. That is central to the conservative ship going into place. And you know, she says in an interview. I thought we were helping. And I wasn't and I helped to corrupt family sees all this control. Well, let's talk about Britney Spear's parents because we had then a fragile spears surrounded, possibly by people who did not have her best interests at heart. And then her father. Tell us about him. I mean, once Britney has her breakdown for lack of a better word. You did tell this horrific scene with her father screaming at Brittany. Yes. So by all the accounts that we heard Jamie and Brittney did not have The best relationship growing up. It's sort of well documented Lynne Spears, Britney's mother, writes about in her memoir that Jamie was wrestling with pretty severe alcoholism. For most of their, you know, life as a family together. And Jamie, though, assumes authority as conservator and Jacqueline Butcher who was there in the room at the You know, at the lawyer's offices around much of this, she says that one of the reasons was that Jamie wasn't afraid of Britney being angry at him. And there is this brutal scene that Jacqueline told us about. You know, it's shortly after the conservative ship is in place, and they're all sitting in Britney's office and our house in Beverly Hills and Jamie turns to Britney and says, Baby, You're fat..
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"I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. Good morning ahead of a named Storm. The Surfside rescue effort has been halted and the Olympics Fund for viewers at home and honor for athletes. But a scandal plagued mess for host countries and Japan is no exception. Also new reporting by the New Yorker on Britney Spears fight over her conservatorship and how access to her kids has been allegedly used to control her. The conservatorship becomes a singular condition of being able to continue to see her Children. And that is one of the reasons that especially from the outside, she has seemed to cooperate. It's Sunday Happy July. 4th and news is coming up right now in this newscast. Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Louise Schiavone. As millions of Americans hit the road to celebrate the fourth of July. The president is slightly shy of his goal of 70% of adults in the U. S vaccinated. By this date, about two thirds of adults have had their shots and some parts of the country are doing better than others. Blake Farmer of member station View PLN. Has details. States like Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee had an abundance of residents who were taking a wait and see approach. But some have waited long enough. Rob Caruso of rural Perry County, Tennessee, nearly died from Covid over the winter. He says he and his wife wondered if their health risks like being diabetic might make vaccination a risk to We didn't know how effective it was going to be if it was going to make our conditions that we had worse. So we just kind of did some research at first, and then we was discussing it with the doctor here. She told me that.
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"I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. One of the biggest questions surrounding the conservatorship of Britney Spears is how a woman who's been able to perform cut records and work for her millions of dollars is somehow unfit to make decisions about her own life. She has been subject to her conservatorship, which gave control of her to her father, Jamie Spears and others for 13 years and in dramatic courtroom testimony last month, she claimed she's being abused by her father, among others on her conservatorship team. Jamie Spears is now asking for those allegations to be investigated by the court, and he has denied wrongdoing, saying he is acting in his daughter's best interests. A new article from the New Yorker magazine has fresh details about why Britney Spears was put into this arrangement and why she is so desperately trying to get out. It's by JIA Tolentino and Ronan Farrow and JIA Tolentino joins me now. Hello. Hi, Lulu. It's great to be here. You have an astonishing amount of detail about this story. I think at the heart of it, though. It's about Britney's love for her kids, right? Yeah, I mean, take us back to 2007. When the paparazzi was saying Britney was quote going crazy. What was really going on behind the scenes? Yes. So this is an aspect of the story that I don't think has been central enough to the public narrative around her so called breakdown, So she's in her early mid twenties. She got married six months after meeting Kevin Federal, I and, you know, has two Children. Within 12 or 13 months of each other. You know, many people who were close to around the time suspect that she was dealing with severe postpartum depression, and we have to remember how famous she was how central she was to a tabloid industry that was reaching its all time aggressive peak. Everywhere she goes. There's mobs of paparazzi, you know, jumping out of their cars in the middle of the road, chasing her down on foot flashbulbs everywhere, shouting provocations together to break down. And so she gets divorced when she is still nursing her two month old second child, the more that she's not with her Children, the more she sort of spirals, the more she spirals, the less likely it is that she will have access to her Children in the future, and I think it's important to note that The two incidents that sort of cemented that era as her quote unquote crazy era when she shaved her head, and when she hit the paparazzi's car with an umbrella. Those were directly preceded by her driving to Kevin Federline's house, followed by photographers asking to see the Children and being refused. And then enters a man called Sam Lutfi who got very close to spears. Can you briefly explain who he is? Yes. So Sam, let Phoebe He's this sort of obscure Hollywood operator with undefinable, somewhat suspicious motives, a history of legal disputes. But he swoops into her life after Britney has fired her longtime manager Larry Rudolph, and he sort of assumes this controlling role. And what Lotfy told us in an interview that one of the things that that created this conflict between him and Britney's parents who were genuinely worried about her and worried that he was exploiting her. Was that he would tell her. You want to cancel that meeting. Go ahead and cancel it. You want to buy this car on impulse? Just buy it and her parents become afraid that he is just going to siphon her money off while she is in crisis that you know she's going to end up underwater in debt exploited sort of drained of this fortune that she has built and you and your colleague Ronan Farrow got to speak with a woman called Jacqueline Butcher. Close friend, Um, to the Spears is for a long time, and she testified 13 years ago to create the conservative ship because she wanted Spears also away from lefties influence, But she now regrets that. What did she tell you? So Jaclyn Butcher was a close friend of Lynne Spears and close to the Spears family for close to a decade, and she was present in Britney's house. And, you know, I had good reason to believe that the parents were right in thinking. Maybe this crisis is due to this man Sam Lutfi that is in her house at this time of breakdown, and she gives this primary testimony. That is central to the conservative ship going into place. And you know, she says in an interview. I thought we were helping. And I wasn't and I helped to corrupt family sees all this control. Well, let's talk about Britney Spears parents because we had then a fragile spears surrounded, possibly by people who did not have her best interests at heart. And then her father. Tell us about him. I mean, once Britney has her breakdown for lack of a better word. You did tell this horrific scene with her father screaming at Brittany. Yes. So by all the accounts that we heard Jamie and Brittney did not have The best relationship growing up. It's sort of well documented Lynne Spears, Britney's mother, writes about in her memoir that Jamie was wrestling with pretty severe alcoholism. For most of their, you know, life is a family together. And Jamie, though, assumes authority as conservator, and Jacqueline Butcher, who was They're in the room at the You know the lawyer's offices around much of this. She says that one of the reasons was that Jamie wasn't afraid of Britney being angry at him. And there is this brutal scene that Jacqueline told us about. You know, it's shortly after the conservatorship is in place, and they're all sitting in Britney's office and our house in Beverly Hills and Jamie turns to Britney and says, Baby, You're fat. We're going to get you a trainer, and within eight weeks from now we're going to look at that TV and they're going to be saying Britney's back..
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"NPR News. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro, and it's time to play the puzzle. Joining us is Will Shortz He's puzzle editor of The New York Times and Weekend edition's Puzzle. Master. Hello, will Hello, Lulu remind us of last week's challenge. Yes, I said name a popular singer first and last names, Change one letter to a P and read the result backward. You'll get what many people do around this singer. Who is it? And the singers do a leap to change the eye to a P. Rita back work, you get applaud, and we received more than 1100 correct Responses in the winner this week is Kathleen Patent of Westwood, Massachusetts. Congratulations and welcome to the program. Thank you, Lulu. Thank you. Well, so how'd you figure it out? Well, I started with the peas and did look sinking in hip hop in a couple of other things, but really the first name that popped into my head where the two names singer was due. A leap A. So I did it backwards and got a plot. How long have you been playing the puzzle? I understand. It was your New year's resolution to win this year. So congratulations to that. Thank you. Yeah, I made sure I entered every week this year, and I was bound Tonto. Bound and determined to get on the air with you both this year, So I've been playing on and off for 20 years that really in earnest for two or three years. I am glad that someone's New Year's resolution worked out for them. So good host, do you? Are you ready to play? I am. I hope I do. Well, I am sure you will. Will take it away. All right, Kathleen. Every answer today is the name of a U. S City from which I have removed one or more interior letters. The remaining letters in order spell a word. I'll give you that word. You name the city. For example, If I said cannon C a n o N with one letter removed, you would say Canton as in Canton, Ohio, inserting a T. Here's number one Settle s E t t l E. It's one letter Seattle. There you go. Washington Number two is lazing as in using a laser L A s I n g Lansing. Lansing, Michigan. Good caper C A P. R. Keeper trying to figure out what? Casper, Wyoming. There you go. Now we go with two letters. Mason M. S O. N. Mason, two consecutive letters will always consecutive, um Milieu. Are you seeing it? It's a state capital. It is in the middle of the country known for its dairy Madison, Madison, Wisconsin. Good. Poland. P O L A N D two letters. Holland, Portland. There you go Main and Oregon either one spoke SP. Okay, E. That would be Spokane. Excellent Province. P R O V I N C That's my neighboring state. Providence. That's right. Lay at l A. Y E T, T E Lafayette, Louisiana or Indiana. Either way. Now we go with three letters Roster R O S T. E. R. Muster. Rochester. There you go. Do it. D o I t Three letters. Detroit Excellent Karen C H a. R. O N four letters. Charlotte, Uh, trust Charleston, Charleston. Yeah, either West Virginia or South Carolina. Either way, Master M A S T. E. R. Four letters. Manchester Excellent Sport s P O R T This time. It's five letters. My goodness. Yes..
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"Is weekend edition from NPR News. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro, and it's time to play the puzzle. Joining us is Will Shortz He's puzzle editor of The New York Times and Weekend edition's very Own Puzzle, Master. Hello will Good morning, Lulu remind us of last week's challenge. Yeah, it came from listener. Peter Gordon of Great Neck, New York. Think of a person in the news. First name has five letters. Last name has four letters. The first name and last name each have at least two continents and two vowels. All the continents in each name. Come at the start and all the vowels come at the end the letter Y is not used. Who is this famous person? And the answer is Chloe Zhao, the director of Nomad Land. We received more than 1500 correct responses, and the winner is Patrick McIntyre of Seattle, Washington. Congratulations. Thank you very much. So how'd you figure it out? My wife and I are long time Take team on this. My wife, Jane, we have what we call PJ's Sunday Puzzle Bible, large. Notebook. And so what That contains is the compilation and indexing over more than 20 years of playing of things that have Come up and over and over and over. You know, we started, of course, uh, looking through the names and trying to find but it didn't take me long before I ever found it. It just became evident that there are virtually very few, if any more hurt than Chloe that I could find anyway. So once I have the Chloe Damn, then the thought was well that will. He likes that kind of look at current events, And sometimes there's an Oscar related That it was asked her day. So there you are. Patrick, are you ready to play? I'm ready. Take it away. Well, all right. Here we go, Patrick, I'm going to read you. Some seven letter words. Each word has the consecutive letters 80 somewhere inside it. Changed the 82 2 new letters to make a new word. For example, if I said flatter You would say fluster because flatter has 80 in the middle. And you change both of those to us? Sure, Roy Okay. All right. Number one is lateral l A T E R a L Not And has to be two new letters. Not just one of them. That's correct. OK, go out this. Let me test out and see how good you guys are at Mt. Well, Okay, Here's Ah, really easy. Him. What's the opposite of conservative? Oh, liberal. There you go liberal. You're often running. Of your next one is Kanta to C A. N t A T. A So you want CNT blank like a How about Cantina Cantina? You got it. Hatband H A T B A. N D. Husband. There you go. Doormat D o r M E A T. Not doing, man. Oh, yeah, but make that plural doorman. Doorman, is it How about hateful H A. T E f u L Hopeful. Excellent like me. They're Ugo. Just eight g E s t A T E. Just sure you got it. Flatbed f l A T b e D flop. Oh, yeah. Flopped flubbed Good job rattler R A T T L E. R H e l e. Okay, rustler. You got it. And here's your last one peacoat P E A c e 0 80. Get this from my Navy days. But let me think if I will Peacock peacock. You got a good job? Good job. How do you feel? Exhilarated? Yeah. Great. Thank you both for playing our puzzle. Today you'll get a weekend edition lapel pin as well as puzzle books and games. You can read all about it at NPR dot org's slash puzzle and Patrick, Which member station do you listen to? I listen to K U O W here in Seattle. Patrick McIntyre of Seattle, Washington. Thank you so much for playing the puzzle. Thank you both Well, and we appreciate it. All right. Well, what is next week's challenge? Yes, it comes from listener. Evan Kalish of Bayside, New York. Name of famous blues singer first and last name is this person is generally known. Change the first letter to a B and fanatically you'll get a nationality. Who's the singer? So again, a famous blues singer. First and last name changed the first letter to a B and fanatically you get a nationality. Who's the singer? And.
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"Next time on forum in his new book, the Devil, You Know, a Black Power manifesto, New York Times columnist Charles Blow has one key proposition for Black Americans. Would become a powerful political force, he writes. His many black descendants of the great migration as possible should return to the south from which their ancestors fled. And he's decided to move from New York to Atlanta will welcome Charles Blow to share his vision. That's next time on forum at 9 A.m. right here on KQED Public radio. May be held with these headlines. In the latest sign of an Inter party split, the Wyoming Republican Party has voted to censure representative Liz Cheney, and it's calling for her removal from Congress. Trainee says the constitution compelled her to vote for former President Trump's impeachment and she will not yield to partisanship. The Internet has been restored in Myanmar's commercial capital, but protests are growing following last week's military coup. In his Sunday address. The pope has come down against the military leaders, expressing his solidarity with the people of Myanmar in the Salt Lake City area and avalanche has killed four skiers and injured four others. Utah's governor says there's a high risk of more avalanches, and he's urging extreme caution. Amy held. NPR NEWS Washington Support for NPR comes from ST Martin's press Publishers of the four winds by Kristen Hannah, author of the Nightingale. Four wins is a novel of love, heroism and hope set against the backdrop of the Great Depression. Eric and Wendy Schmidt through the Smith Family Foundation, working together to create a just world where all people have access to renewable energy, clean air and water and healthy food on the Web that the Schmidt dad work. And the listeners of KQED Public Radio ahead on weekend edition. The puzzle, also a story about a meteorologist who lost his wallet while working in Antarctica some 53 years ago, the wallet has been found. This is weekend edition from NPR News. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro, and it's time to play the puzzle. Joining us is Will Shortz He's puzzle editor of The New York Times and Weekend edition's Puzzle, Master. Hi will. Good Morning, Lulu. All right. What was last week's challenge? Yes, it came from listener Derek Niederman of Charleston, South Carolina. Said. Start in a state drive to another one, Then another one, Then another one. And the postal abbreviations for those.
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"Lulu Garcia Navarro. Good morning. Women have been devastated economically in this pandemic. Why it's being called a She session. Kids and vaccines. Yes, you will be vaccinated before your Children were here from a member of the FDA is Vaccine Advisory Committee Plus Ethan Hawke's new novel and the Folly of Fame. When I look at Michael Jackson or Elvis or any of these people who have reached extreme celebrity It's like they're in some isolation tank and they're just going mad. It's Sunday, January 31st On this day in 18 65. Congress passed the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery headlines next Lie from NPR news. I'm Giles Snyder. Two lawyers who were said to be on former President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team will no longer be representing oven. NPR's Tamara Keith reports. It's not really clear who is representing the former president does. A trial draws near? Trump's legal team has a pretrial filing due this week, but at this point, it's entirely unclear who was writing it. To South Carolina based attorneys who were on the team. Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbiere are no longer representing the president. A source familiar says The decision was mutual. Though no explanation was offered an aide working with Trump and his post presidency Jason Miller had tweeted glowingly about Bauer's joining the team just 10 days ago. And Saturday night, he noted. The majority of Republican senators voted last week to say impeaching the president after he's left office is unconstitutional, adding Trump and his advisers have quote Not made a final decision on our legal team, which will be made shortly. Tamra Keith NPR NEWS South Carolina Republican Congressman Tim Rice is accusing the State Party of cowering before Donald Trump. He told The Post and Courier newspaper that he stands by his vote to impeach the former president after the State Party's centered him this weekend. South Carolina has identified the first known case of the UK very into the coronavirus in the state. This comes after South Carolina detected its first case of another, very It also believed to be more easily and quickly spread. South Carolina Public Radio's Victoria Hansen reports. State health officials say the UK vary. It was found in a coastal community of South Carolina and the person infected does have a history of international travel. They add that since the discovery Friday, more than 400 cases of the UK vary it had been reported nationwide. South Carolina is also where the first U. S patients with a coronavirus varied from South Africa were announced last week. Their cases there said not to be related, and neither has traveled recently. For NPR NEWS. Victoria Hansen in South Carolina Group of 10. Republican senators say they've come up with compromise coronavirus relief legislation that they say can get through Congress with bipartisan support. Requesting a meeting with President Biden evening even as Democrats seem ready to act on Biden's $1.9 trillion covert relief plan without GOP support. Big storm spreading over the East Coast after dumping heavy snow this weekend in northern Illinois and Indiana. Some areas could see as much as 14 inches. The storm is expected to move north into New York by tonight on Long Island, Nassau County Executive Laura current for asking you to stay off the roads as much as possible for our.
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"I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. U. S policy in the Middle East is taking another sharp turn. Last week, The Biden administration said it would resume diplomatic relations with Palestinian leaders and restore contributions to a U. N agency, which provides aid to the Palestinians. The new administration also emphasized U. S commitment to the quote two state solution, which envisions a sovereign and separate Palestine and Israel. It is a rejection of the heavily pro Israeli approach of the Trump Administration. But after four years of being frozen out, what's the state of Palestinian attitudes towards the U. S? Riyadh? Mansoor is the Palestinian ambassador to the United Nations, and he joins us Now. Welcome to the program, sir. You very much for having me ambassador months were under President Trump the U. S recognized Israel's claim to Jerusalem is its capital moved its embassy to Jerusalem, a city the Palestinians also claim as their capital. Three US also presented a peace proposal that left Israeli settlements in the West Bank in place. In your view, where have those policies left the Palestinians? Those policies created so much damage to the aspirations of the Palestinian people to actualize their inalienable rights to self determination. Independence off their state and the Trump administration tried over the years to convince the international community including in the Security Council to abandon the global consensus based on international law. So the vision of President Trump. Luckily, the international community rejected that and supported the global consensus on how to resolve this issue. Well, the new Secretary of state Anthony Blinken, says the U. S. Will not move the embassy back to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem and the bite administration does recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Several Arab countries now have relationships with Israel also, and Palestinians were not part of those negotiations. Is the Palestinian position weaker now. I mean, there have been substantial shifts that do not look like they will be rolled back. Well, you see, the new administration said many things And they said they are still committed to the two state solution on. They also said progress must be based on consultation with both sides on their consent. Do you see the issue of Jerusalem as something that is now? Ah, fete accompli. I mean, with not only the United States, but several other Countries moving their embassies to Jerusalem. Does that not make it more difficult? It makes things difficult and it's complicated. We are honoring and respecting international Law and Security Council resolutions. It is also that Jerusalem is one off the issues for final status negotiations. In addition to all these things, the Bison administration instead that they want to re establish diplomatic relations with the Palestinian leadership and their people. Our understanding. That doesn't mean only having our office three opened in Washington, D C but also re opening the United States Consulate in East Jerusalem. Which deals directly with the Palestinian people and report directly to the State Department. What we need through diplomatic channels to discuss away these issues, Andre to propose certain steps that could be taken while we are moving forward in the direction off opening doors for peace. Do you feel more optimistic? Now, with this new administration that negotiations will restart in the claims of the Palestinian people will be fully looked at by the United States in a way that perhaps they were not in the last four years. Was definitely you know, we hope and we expect that the these four years ahead of us will definitely be different than the four years behind us. But we also realized that there are some money. Big issues on the plate off the Biden administration that requires some time, but that means that we should engage through acquired diplomacy. We owe raise all the questions that we should praise and try to find answers to them collectively in preparation for more off an active Engagement with all of our partners in order to have a collective approach, not only on approach in which one party to be the shepherd off the process, and these are encouraging signals that would allow us to learn from the lessons of the past. And to avoid the mistakes of the past and to move forward in a creative, different way. That is real man store Palestinian ambassador to the United Nations. Thank you very much. You're very welcome. Thank you for having me. Mm hmm. In the aftermath of the January 6th assault on Congress. Thousands of Republicans have left their party as Colorado's pub. As Colorado public radio's Andrew Kenny explains, those voters have headed in very different directions. Mildara had been a Republican all his life. That changed soon after the riot at the U. S Capitol. I was just completely shocked and shamed. You know, that's not who I think of the Republican who we were and who we are, and so you know, there's something that I felt that I could no longer be a support of that party. Dara voted for Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020. Now he's a registered Democrat. And he jokes that he and his wife won't cancel each other's votes out anymore always cheat each other taking me about I'll go Drop it off for you, Linc, Linc and And so now, you know, now we're unified voting for Matt. According to voter registration data. He was one of about 4600 people to quit the GOP in Colorado in the week after the riot. That's about seven times higher than the normal number of people who switched parties in a typical week, and it didn't happen for any other party. There's a similar story playing out in other states, too. But not all of those defectors are becoming Democrats. Some say the Republican Party hasn't done enough to support Trump and instead became unaffiliated voters. We've all been living a lie, and then told a lie. Sarah Walker lives near Dara in rural county. She thinks GOP leaders betrayed Trump by partially blaming him for the violence and refusing to overturn the election. There's only one Party in America, and it's a party that's not four Americans that's for corporations and businesses and media moguls that think they can silence our voices and our boats. Now she's not sure if or when she'll vote again. In far western Colorado, Phil Truby, a shared some of that skepticism I'm gonna do you kind of looking out who's an establishment Republican, and who's not he and his wife switched to the American Constitution Party. He used to be a straight ticket GOP voter, But not anymore, he says. I do feel there is a split. Yeah, there could be now The overall number of party switchers is pretty small compared to the millions of voters here in Colorado, but it's an illustration of a big problem facing the GOP, says Ryan, winger of the Republican pollster. Magellan strategies, You know, no matter what sport in the road they choose. They're clearly going to lose what is currently a part of their collection or what has.
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"I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro. Good morning. This our state capitals across the country are on high alert as we head into Inauguration week. We ask a former general who led troops in Iraq about the possibility of a homegrown insurgency and in the movie pieces of a woman a taboo subject gets the big screen treatment Vanessa Kirby on her excruciating birth scene. It was a bit of a scary one just because I have never given birth before myself, and I thought if I got a second of this wrong than the audience will be pulled out the film on it will feel like a movie version of a birth. It's Sunday, January 17th 2021 Headlines are next Live from NPR news. I'm trial Snyder. Preparations are underway to ensure the nation's capital is secure ahead of President elect Oh Biden's inauguration on Wednesday. NPR's Dave Mystics, reports of multiple agencies are teaming up for the effort that's bringing in resource is from across the country. Some 25,000 National Guard troops are being deployed as local officials braced for the possibility of more extremist violence. Razor wire atop a 7 ft fins was put up around the Capitol building Friday and bridges coming into Washington, D C from Virginia will be closed. Law enforcement for the district's transit authority will also receive assistance from other major cities, including Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, Houston and New Orleans. Republican Governor Larry Hogan of neighboring Maryland has declared a state of emergency ahead of Wednesday's events. Dave Mystic NPR NEWS Not only our National guard soldiers being deployed in Washington, D C but more than a dozen states of also activated guard troops following the FBI warning of the potential for armed protests ahead of Wednesday's inauguration day. Include Michigan, Virginia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, California and Washington state. Los Angeles County had a pandemic milestone this week in the most populous county in the U. S. Has now surpassed one million. Confirmed cases of covert 19 and Matt Gillam of member station KCRW reports. A county got more bad news. The new variants of the virus has arrived. The Corona virus strain be 117, which originated in the United Kingdom is now in L. A Health officials say this first case of the variant, which is about 50%, more contagious than regular cove, it was found in a man passing through the region who's now isolating in Oregon. Experts say it's likely the UK strain has already spreading in Southern California. Million confirmed cases of the virus in L A means roughly one in 10 Angelenos has been infected. However, recent modeling from the county suggests the actual transmission of the virus could be much more widespread, infecting one in three residents. California expands access to the vaccine L A is still keeping tight restrictions on it as it continues to inoculate frontline health care workers for NPR News. I'm Matt Gillam to Pakistan, where drug regulators have approved the use of the Oxford AstraZeneca Cove in 19 vaccine amid uncertainty about how the country will get ahold of the doses it needs. Even the neighboring India has major manufacturer The BBC's Juma Give Ring has more on the hurdles Pakistan faces does the underlying tension between India and Pakistan the fraud political relationship. At the moment. Pakistan's implying that it hasn't approached India about applies anyway. Therefore, my ass can it look the possibility of Western countries. Perhaps there are other manufacturers, of course in other countries. But there's also the global vaccine alliance, which may help out there trying to give free doses for about 20% off populations in countries that need it. Pakistan should be on that list. But again, it won't meet all its needs on the timing of that isn't very clear. And you're listening to NPR news. Vice president. He let Kamila Harris has said to resign her Senate seat. She is expected to step down as a senator from California tomorrow as she prepares to be sworn in as vice president. On Wednesday, she is to take the oath of office from Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. Security being tightened in Washington, D. C ahead of Inauguration Day. Three Tennessee INS are among those who've been arrested in connection with the storming of the U. S. Capitol. Samantha Max is with member station WPL in Reports, photos and social media posts are helping with the investigation. The FBI arrested Matthew Bledsoe in Memphis on Friday and Jack Jesse Griffith in Gallatin, Tennessee, on Saturday morning on multiple charges, including entering a restricted building and disrupting government business. Both were identified through photos and videos on Bledsoe's Instagram account. Griffith also allegedly posted on Facebook that he had stormed the capital. On Saturday afternoon, Agents arrested Lisa Eisenhardt, the mother of the so called ZIP tie guy, whose photo holding wrist restraints inside the Capitol went viral. The FBI has made several arrests across the country, and it's still seeking tips for NPR news. I'm Samantha Max in Nashville San Francisco Bay area was rattled by an earthquake last night of that magnitude of 4.2. And was followed by another quake about five minutes later. There have been no reports of major injuries or damage. But officials say the death toll from Friday night's quake in Indonesia now top 70..
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"This is weekend edition from NPR News and Lulu Garcia Navarro. A record number of people have voted in Georgia's two Senate runoff elections that will determine control of the upper chamber of Congress. Over three million people have already cast their ballots in that state ahead of Tuesday's race, and over 100,000 of them are new voters. Who did not participate in the general election last year, who wins will hinge on who shows up at the polls and a state that narrowly went for Joe Biden in November. Joining us now to talk about that is someone heavily involved in getting out the Latino vote. Michelle Solana is with the Latino community fund, Georgia and she's on the line from Al Ferretti, Georgia. Welcome to the program. Hi, Lulu. Happy to be here. Okay. Tell me what this is. Look like for you over the past few weeks. How have you been trying to get out the vote? Well, we focus our efforts on a campaign called Latinos for democracy. Where we give training and resources to smaller Latino led organizations throughout Georgia and we have been doing text banking, sending out mailers doing literature drops just with the general elections and run off alone. We have texted over a million Georgians, so we're pretty happy with everything that we've done so far. Yeah, Your organization is nonpartisan. Incumbent GOP Senators Kelly, La Flor and David Perdue are running against Democrats John Assaraf and Raphael Warnock, respectively. We know that 3% of George's voters in November we're Latino. That's a small number, but analysts believe their vote is crucial. Wife Our community is growing and more and more of Latinos are becoming eligible to vote. Latinos are very much a decisive factor because we are very young, and we're just becoming more and more present with the political process, which is really what we focus on in our nonpartisan efforts. Would have been some of the challenges, though, of reaching out to the Latino community in particular. I mean, there was a huge push in November. I imagine people just might be tired of voting and hearing about voting. There are a couple of things first is language access. We try to keep as many volunteer that people on staff to be bilingual. However, not everybody gets that language access when they have outreach, so If there's a voter who's just become a naturalized citizen and isn't familiar with the process, but goes to it full, all English location to vote. It's a bit difficult for them. That's why we developed our election protection program is to deal with that. Secondly, this is more of a cultural impact over the years, Latinos We've come to this beautiful country for opportunity and And all that stuff, But a lot of people in our community are also escaping more corrupt governments, sometimes violent governments that feeling towards government doesn't disappear just because you live in a new country, right? Um, as was finally realized last November, But among Latinos has been known for quite some time. Latinos do vote for both parties. What are the issues that are motivating Latinos in Georgia? Especially since yes, this election has national ramifications with control of the Senate, But it is an election for senators who will represent the state. One. It is our health and the pandemic Latinos own have access to health care, as maybe a lot of other groups and ethnicities do and a lot of people in the Latino community are on the front lines. You know, we're working in restaurants in hospitals and somebody's house, etcetera, etcetera. So this has impacted our community a lot. Um, secondly, immigration with immigration policy getting more and more strict that has worried our community as well. And then, of course, the economy. You know, we come here for opportunity. We come here. So to get an education to be financially stable, So I would say those are the three biggest things that are in the Latino mine. I understand Voting is personal for you. Can you tell me a little bit of your own story? Absolutely back in 2002. My father was voluntarily deported and then in 2004, my mom was voluntarily deported. And that's when I ended up living in Columbia myself. I am Colombian. I lived in South America for many years when I came back. My parents basically told me Hey, we can't afford your college. You have American citizenship. You have that golden ticket, you know, going, make the most out of it. I was sent when I was 18. However, when I came back, my brother was voluntarily deported a couple months later, So it's been about 10 years. Well, we've all lived in different countries and again. These policies have really impacted our families. And my story isn't unique. This happens throughout the Latino community all the time and I do truly believe that this can change if we go out there If we're civically active because more more more, the Latino vote is becoming more and more decisive, and we're seeing that now, with the changes that are happening at the local, state and federal level. Michelle. There are 100,000 new voters who have come out so far in this election as I mentioned, why do you think that is we are in a very decisive point in history politically, socially economically, But I would also say the pandemic has really hit people quite hard. We want to move forward and we want to make sure that everybody that we love Friends and family come out alive. So I would say that the pandemic is a very big one, and then also to see that change is possible when people go out and vote. I think that that definitely motivated so many people, and we're very happy about that. So people are seeing the change that they feel that is Michelle's hula with the Latino community Fund. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Lula..
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"Bruce Springsteen. This is weekend edition from NPR News and Lulu Garcia Navarro. A record number of people have voted in Georgia's two Senate runoff elections that will determine control of the upper chamber of Congress. Over three million people have already cast their ballots in that state ahead of Tuesday's race, and over 100,000 of them are new voters. Who did not participate in the general election last year, Who wins will hinge on who shows up at the polls in a state that narrowly went for Joe Biden in November. Joining us now to talk about that is someone heavily involved in getting out the Latino vote. Michelle Solana is with the Latino community fund, Georgia and she's on the line from Al Ferretti, Georgia. Welcome to the program. Hi, Lulu. Happy to be here. Okay. Tell me what this is. Look like for you over the past few weeks. How have you been trying to get out the vote? Well, we focus our efforts on a campaign called Latinos for democracy. Where we give training and resources to smaller Latino led organizations throughout Georgia, and we have been doing text banking, sending out mailers doing literature drops. Just with the general elections and run off alone. We have texted over a million Georgians, so we're pretty happy with everything that we've done so far. Yeah, your organization is nonpartisan. Incumbent GOP Senators Kelly, La Flor and David Perdue are running against Democrats John Assaraf and Raphael Warnock, respectively. We know that 3% of George's voters in November we're Latino. That's a small number, but analysts believe their vote is crucial Wife our community is growing and more and more of Latinos are becoming eligible to vote. Latinos are very much a decisive factor because we are very young, and we're just becoming more and more present with the political process, which is really what we focus on in our nonpartisan efforts. What have been some of the challenges, though, of reaching out to the Latino community in particular. I mean, there was a huge push in November. I imagine people just might be tired of voting and hearing about voting. There are a couple of things first is language access. We try to keep as many volunteers that people on staff to be bilingual. However, not everybody gets that language access when they have outreach, so If there's a voter who's just become a naturalized citizen and isn't familiar with the process that goes to it full, all English location to vote. It's a bit difficult for them. That's why we developed our election protection program is to deal with that. Secondly, this is more of a cultural impact over the years, Latinos We've come to this beautiful country for opportunity and And all that stuff, But a lot of people in our community are also escaping more corrupt governments, sometimes violent governments that feeling towards government doesn't disappear just because you live in a new country, right? Hmm? Um, as was finally realized last November, But among Latinos has been known for quite some time. Latinos do vote for both parties. What are the issues that are motivating Latinos in Georgia? Especially since yes, this election has national ramifications with control. Of the Senate, But it is an election for senators who will represent the state one. It is our health and the pandemic Latinos own have access to health care, as maybe a lot of other groups and ethnicities do and a lot of people in the Latino community are on the front lines. You know, we're working in restaurants in hospitals and somebody's house, eccentric cetera. So This has impacted our community a lot. Secondly, immigration with immigration policy, getting more and more strict that has worried our community as well. And then, of course, the economy. You know, we come here for opportunity. We come here. So to get an education to be financially stable, So I would say those three biggest things that are in the Latino mind. I understand Voting is personal for you. Can you tell me a little bit of your own story? Absolutely back in 2002. My father was voluntarily deported and then in 2004, my mom was voluntarily deported. And that's when I ended up living in Columbia myself. I am Colombian. I lived in South America for many years when I came back my parents basically it's only Hey, we can't afford your college. You have American citizenship. You have that cold in ticket, you know, going, make the most out of it. I was sent when I was 18. However, when I came back, my brother was voluntarily deported. Ah, couple months later, so it's been about 10 years. Well, we've all lived in different countries and again. These policies have really impacted our families. And my story isn't unique. This happens throughout the Latino community all the time, and I do truly believe that this can change. If we go out there if we're civically active because more more more, the Latino vote is becoming more and more decisive, and we're seeing that now, with the changes that are happening at the local, state and federal level. Michelle. There are 100,000 new voters who have come out so far in this election as I mentioned, why do you think that is we are in a very decisive point in history politically, socially economically, But I would also say the pandemic has really hit people quite hard. We want to move forward and we want to make sure that everybody that we love Friends and family come out alive. So I would say that the pandemic is a very big one, and then also to see that change is possible when people go out and vote. I think that that definitely motivated so many people, and we're very happy about that. So people are seeing the change that they feel. That is Michelle's Who wanna with the Latino Community Fund. Thank you very much. Thank you so much little Mm hmm..
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Biden Secures 85 Votes in Electoral College
"News. This is special coverage of the 2020 election of Lulu Garcia Navarro and I'm Ari Shapiro. Polls have now closed in Florida and Pennsylvania, two key battleground states that could sway the results of the presidential election. And, according to the AP, the race is too early to call in both states. As of now, this is what we do know about the race. So far, President Trump has 55 electoral college votes after winning and reliably Republican states like Kentucky, West Virginia in South Carolina and former Vice President Joe Biden has 85 electoral college votes after winning in Democratic strongholds like Vermont, Virginia and Illinois.
Latino USA
A Conversation With Maria Hinojosa And Lulu Garcia-Navarro
"The one and only Monday. Joins, me now welcome Lulu. It's it's such a pleasure. I. It is such a pleasure to have you on and to read this book it's called once I was you and it is based around the story. Of how you came to the United States for the first time, tell us that story. Yeah. Well, it's an interesting story. I didn't actually know it like a lot of us. We don't actually ask our parents. So how exactly did I know that you came for example, my whole family we were born in Mexico my dad MPC go of us in Mexico City and dad gets hired by the University of Chicago. He's a medical doctor dedicated to research and long story short he helps to create the cochlear implant. He was an amazing human being. May He rest in peace? So that was in Chicago and my mom, and the four of us kids I was the baby in her arms get on a plane. It's the early nineteen. Sixty's we fly from Mexico City to Dallas and change planes in Dallas, and then we're GONNA fly onto Chicago and. When I finally found out the story when I wrote raising, which is a Motherhood Memoir that I wrote like twenty years ago. You know I found out that there was this whole thing that happened at the airport and that an immigration agent was like you know saying that had some weird skin thing and you know maybe had to put me in quarantine and my mom was like Nah and then I came and I saved the no she didn't say it like this but basically, it was like me Ma Ma Ma you know. She's five feet tall by the way, but stood up and. Know had this kind of moment with immigration agent and and it was a story that I told. Kind of like saying, wow, my mom is such a cool woman like I understand where I get my powerful voice even though she's tiny, she spoke back to an immigration agent. and. Then in the writing of this book, blue is really what happens is that I really understand what was happening there. There were trying to separate you from your mother. They basically told your mom that they were GonNa, take you away and put you in quarantine quote unquote and that she was free to go with her other children but that you would have to stay behind I mean. Can you imagine like? When my mom called me in the midst of and you know Lou that I've been covering this story, the entirety, my career immigration writ. Large. And my mom calls me at the airport. I was flying from one back when we were flying around and in the midst of the height of babies being put into cages, we were hearing the voices. You know we knew this was happening. This is not. This not begin with the trump administration but anyway. Mom. Calls me and she's crying she's like is Gay It could have been me. If I'm a your she was like that was I could have been one of those moms and I swear to Lulu that. By heart dropped I was like Oh. My God. So it's not a story of like my mom. Eh, you know speaking back it's a realized now a story of trauma and that. Wouldn't have happened I think had I not written the book and had the horror of immigration policies becomes so. Crystal. Clear. So inhumane so hurtful and frankly now finally so public You. As you mentioned what brought to Chicago, which is where you grew up, but you always maintained your connection to Mexico and your roots you'd go back and forth. You came here on a green card. When did you become a citizen? I asked this simply because that transition of becoming. An American you said was difficult for you. You. You found it hard to sort of occupy these two spaces. So, it was great because in the writing of the book, I actually had to like do the time line and and then I had to go back and find my citizenship. It was a actually I had just come back from a reporting trip with Scott Simon Scott and I were down inside whether it was December of Nineteen eighty-nine Lau Offensive Little Trenton Webb the FMLN offensive the guerilla warfare was happening inside word and I went down to produce Scott. And I came back and just a few days later I took the oath. Look the reason why it was complicated was because way back then maybe now I am beginning to understand maybe it was because of that traumatic experience in Airport in Dallas I, always kind of new. Like this isn't a certain thing for you. This thing about you being able to come in and out of the United States you've done your whole life. Now. You're a woman you're a journalist you've been to Cuba. You've got you've been tool Salvador you. You know. There may be a time when they say you can't come back and I understood that and so I have to be honest as I am the memoir he was motivated in large part by fear that that my green card could be taken away and that I could not be allowed and this was before this whole conversation of like what's happening now you know this was way before it was a different time but I think I kind of I, kind of knew it. So the thing that happens when you become a citizen in this country is you have to raise your right hand and you have to swear that you will bear arms for this country. And people who are born in this country like my own kids haven't had to do that. When you have to do that you take this thing really seriously you know like the Constitution and the bill of rights and you know all like you take it really seriously, and I think that's why because the book is certainly it's about immigration, but it's also about like my. My struggle for democracy and being seen as a journalist taken seriously to be that's all a part of democracy and it just becomes I mean I was living with a green card I was I was definitely understanding my role as a participant. But when you raise that right hand, it's at a whole
Weekend Edition Sunday
What happened in Trump-Putin meeting
"This is weakened edition from NPR news Lulu Garcia Navarro. Isn't way I'm korva Coleman what did President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin talk about in their private to our summit last week we still don't know and no firm details. Have been, revealed. A departure. From diplomatic custom Russia has rushed to fill that void with words like magnificent and super Angela stent? Of, Georgetown University is a Russia expert and a State Department veteran from, the Clinton and Bush administrations. Good morning misstep good morning we don't. Know exactly what happened at the summit in Helsinki what. Have you been able. To glean well most of what we, know is from the Russians as you, said they really control, this narrative, so they've come out with different issues they've. Said that sharia was discussed that Ukraine was discussed, arms control was discussed they've talked about proposal They put forward for a referendum in eastern Ukraine which fortunately our government has dismissed as not happening at one point they were asking for, the United, States to return to Russia for. Questioning off home ram Bashar that Michael McFaul and some other people whom they wanted to question in return for. Robert Malet going over, to Russia and questioning or being in the room when the twelve. Indicted military intelligence officers indicted for meddling and hacking are interrogated so we've just had a variety of different proposals but we really know very very little about what's happening and hopefully some. Light will, be. Shut on. This when secretary of state Pompeo testifies to congress because this really is an unprecedented situation we lost? We, read in the newspapers that our own government officials don't really know, what happened so secretary campaign. Will speak to congress later this week. What questions should lawmakers ask him what I think the. Lawmakers have to ask. Him what went on In, that ninety minute discussion where only, the interpreters were present did President Trump make, any promises? Were they, issues discussed the Russians happen revealed yet and I think we you know, we need, to have a concrete understanding of what happened and somehow. The United States has to take back control of this narrative we have to be much more proactive we have and we have to ask secretary Pompeo what is it that we would like to get from the Russians what is what is it that the United States is seeking Khalifa Putin this was a win he met with. The US president he was treated as an equal, and this is four years, after being isolated or the. US and its allies trying to isolate Russia for what they've done in Ukraine what they've done in Syria and other places so I think we. Really need as much detail as we can't have from what happened usually somebody offers. A debriefing after such a meeting somebody from the national. Security Council could we hear more? From national security adviser John Bolton I mean we could if if Someone in palace. Him to do it because apparently they haven't had such a, briefing im ambassadors a US ambassador? In other parts of? The world like Europe are, in the dock they, don't know, what happened and clearly issues must've been raised that concern what's happening in Europe so yes that would be a good starting point. And it would be more in line. With what's traditionally happened after summits when President Putin. Reported the meeting was successful what does that mean for him oh? I think for him it means again that he met with the US. President that he was. Treated as an equal I mean. President Trump stood there and said, the reason why US Russian relations are so bad is both sides are to blame well the Russians have been saying for a long, time the US is to blame for that. So that so that went halfway there and the fact that on a number of issues. For instance the Russian meddling in the twenty sixty, election the President Trump standing next, to President Putin said well I believe President, Putin when? He gives, me a strong denial Title that I would say is also a pretty much a win for the Russians Angela stent, is the, director of the center for Eurasian Russian and, east European studies and a professor of government and, foreign, service at Georgetown University misspent thank you very much thank.