14 Burst results for "Luke Keillor"
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"And david van vitas just fought in march. So ben vitas wasn't gonna be ready as quickly as a as drama and didn't wanna wait all the way until the fall until when benn readers with right so they each took a fight. And i think there will be conversations going forward now whether or not it's fair to ask jamal to take on one of the two or three best guys in the division in his first fight at that weight class. That's a big challenge But i still think it is very possible. That fight happens next depending on what happens with plant in and and canals. While if jamal doesn't move up will you please throw money at is android. Please please. I know this is still. He's her poster child. This is this is a a an issue near dear to your heart personally You know there. There's already been to duck a documented. Instances where we've thrown money at andre one where we actually had a deal and didn't get anything out of it So there's plenty of blame to go around I would love to have seen the jamaal charles. Oh fight back in two thousand fifteen when it was supposed to happen against andre. Andre made a different choice. He also started. Infamously chose to keep fighting. What he called the luke keillor's of the world at a point where he was a free agent and had a showtime offered by by drama. And i know you know. The hundred side has their versions of offers that have been made tremendous. Well look it is. It's a perplexing problem. There are one sixty is one of the worst cases in where you've got people winter. I i think the puzzling thing though it at one sixty is it's not really promoters and platforms Because andre hasn't been able to get you a really career defining fight even among the sixty pounders at are at saint platform that our own artists as well so again..
"luke keillor" Discussed on The Corner
"Smart. Mcgregor promotions partners with shriller. Can you imagine and then you get all the bullshit too because you get kinda mcgregor in the entertainment aspect the pomp and circumstance but then you all these fights like connor if he wants to fight some but he ain't got worry about like no promotion a bunch of money as somebody to a fight yet he could buy a box neat bs. The fuck you'll see like let's say loosely on edwards and fuck this. I'm out kind of gray wrist on chiller. it's going to do better than everything else and perfectly meeting perfect place for him versus polly. Do it all all of that. There's this show the stupid. Jim footage do all i get. Some good guests honestly built with their money and economy gregor fight. They get drake of course could of course they could trigger. Drink it. he's a performance. Y'all you're printing money. do listen. here's how here's how quickly things change. Then we'll go back to the ufc. Tell about kevin hollandia wack For real last. January i was in miami dimitrius andrey fought luke keillor in the main event. Jake paul give in the komi third fight on the car this weekend. Dmitriy android fights zone. Nobody gives a fuck jake. Paul is fighting. Ben aspirin a year later on a pay per view. This gonna do numbers yet hell crazies. That tape was on the undercard but we saw we saw it. I was in miami aside after. Jake thought off you to like. We had a black carpet all these celebrities kamara Showed up stray hands saquon. Partly they all showed up like sixty percent of left. When andrey like as soon as andrew got that i knocked down he got at. I knocked out against killing the first round. That fight went two rounds too long Left there to jake. Paul and we know it always over. If we don't sign jake paul. When i was still doing a lot of lifting was shown. He's gonna take off somewhere else he now. He's trailer he's about to be printing. Money is crazy anyway. Back to susan. I agree Ufc again we just have a couple of things to talk about. Let's recap the ufc on abc car. That just happened last week on. Abc to a lot of people. Hopefully i saw maybe not at a super early start time but i kind of like that on these. Abc cards One thing that sticks out to me. We'll just go to a couple of things Mike perry lost to get time to cut him right moment. It's worth the trouble out of. We answer that time to get cut. You good like jesus christ. Yeah it's ridiculous. And then mackenzie dern anina nunez now mrs nunez verses mackenzie and nina was what one fight removed from being top. Three top. Four in division had a child came back was understandably. I fight after having the baby but because he turned the good and she's on the ground no one's arise do look. I thought this fight was going to be competitive as soon as a gun on the grind. It was over survival mode. It's like someone gets by shark a the kansas figured out. This is the great thing about emmy in comparison to boxing losing boxing. Everybody's like jober need the cash assign. Don't give a fuck about. You can see their laws couple of fights be were like she walked away back up to be lost one fight. The other one is a questionable decision that they gave yet. Yeah you're right. You're right but she showed this incredible improvement in striking which now makes a tougher opponents to figure her out. it comes with maturity. Boston doesn't really do that. Boxing feed you. A bunch of cancel is really hard to get better. 'cause you it's not okay to lose the somebody who's better than you is weird but in mma. You lose somebody. Who's better than you. You go back to drum board you plug some holes in your game like algebra sterling get knocked up and then you know you find for title A few years later the loss zero k or take out by max. Holloway came back like a brand new brenner. Teigen is zone yeltsin fired revoking whatever. Because he'd done she may be fighting for a title by the next beginning. Next year i grew up. I don't know if anybody can stop this shit yeah the biggest takeaway for me. You mentioned her hands and getting better as a striker ohio and just getting the weight in order has completely changed whole game. Talk about how during the child in changing you. She had a child came back and had no way problems. After trays she leaned out helped like making wait now. One fifty for a long time ago. She has to be a one twenty five. what is she doing now. it's one fifteen in a blink. It's easy for and then you know on top of all that the accident get stronger. Every find the action gets stronger. I'm like yo she Post the post like this weekend. She sounded like she was romera. Zona again no translator nothing clears days. He sounded like a valley girl. She's so strange man telling you because one day. It's like she Portuguese and the next time. She's like the girl from arizona. But i i'm telling you if she ever gets title. You can have a translated o hands to translate and we let the hills here. I'm i'm convinced myself. Because i just watched this movie again because about to be taken off flicks that she is like christian bale's batman that on fight night she get into the zone and to get all the jitsu skills out scotto..
"luke keillor" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"But we're back with a JAM packed morning edition. Were put in that work. And if you're just tuning into the livestream don't forget to hit that thumbs up. And as we've scheduled three morning interviews for you. We got Albert Bell. Who's going to be fighting on showtime in a few days? Then we have flabbier Rodriguez who fights on showtime did this weekend and we have new American Heavyweight Decor Re Scott Aka Mack truck. But we're here today to discuss Liam Williams a guy we've been following and Dimitrius hundred a guy that the public has been wanting to get in a big time fight now. This isn't that did order it and we will get it. They Muss I guess. Be Done with negotiations within ninety to one hundred and twenty days but I do want to say it is a real fight for Dimitri Sandra. I know that we may not agree on that. And we'll get into it in detail after our Cosa introductions but I think this is a good fight for. Andre isn't the best but it's the best of what's left if that makes any sense at all but let me head on out to Corpus Christi Texas. Mario Mongia would do good morning radio. What is up? What is up? Yeah man you could've said it better It it isn't the fight that we've that people that appreciate andrade skills are hoping for or were hoping for but at the same time It is what it is. It's what's left I think it's an interesting match up I think they match up well. I think it'll be an interesting fight. you know. I'll I'll look for a look for boo boo to do something impressive in this fight to make it count on some level and that's going to be up to him to rise the Cajun but What is up my speak? It believe it receivers speak it. Believe a receive speaker believer receive at Nova speaking with a COP DOT COM. Your no Yo. Yo because everybody out there in the universe back with another man I got in a little bit different. Take on this being. Williams is the probably the most difficult or curb name on the beaches. Andrei record knows going through Andres record you haven't seen him face anybody at my opinion as WHO's the look as good as Liam Williams I know he. He lost the novacopy years back but every he moved up to one. Sixty heat has been destroying guy from my guy to my Guy Mikhael Mikhail Fox or was it. His brother Alana's five for sure. So it is what it is. I think this is going to be a good fight in which is Andrei my half problems. I could definitely see him having problems. Especially when it took so long to get rid of Luquillo Keila you know could be said in the same sentence with Williams. But I think it's going to be difficult for boxing fans get over the fact that this guy's lost twice to Liam Smith who was knocked out by and loss to Hymie Mongia and at the end of the day Liam Williams biggest. Win Is Alana's Fox. Come again Harrys. Not a bit of winning Fox Nah Well I mean it's arguable. I don't really know areas as big as when Luke Ulaby Eris. Nope not a not a limb limb Williams okay. Okay yeah so Williams I mean look again. Alana's Fox is the biggest name all these other names are domestic. Craig Nicholson Mark. Heff Ron Joe Melendez. Those are domestic names. He got lucky that he was putting in a title. Eliminator widow Lantis Fox. I mean Liam Williams is the number seven getting shot at the frigging champion when you got the number one in high me right there available. This is a weird situation. Not only did they make him doing eliminate with Fox instead of Mongolia but they're also skipping over Mongia for the title shot. But I don't mind because like you were really because of you. I've started to watch more of Williams and you're right at sixty with ingle. He looks a lot more believable as a contender. And he is on a four to five. Fight win streak. This'll be a six fight. And like I said Dominic Angle plays a huge row. These guys look good when there were dominant kingdom not only physically but actually in the ring say how many Mongia got passed over. I I don't know if he wanted to fake moving up four and you you you had to. You should be able to go to one six anyway. I WANNA fight him and he already had a fight so I'm not sure to hymies team one five meters Andre Right now now. You're absolutely right one hundred percent. They didn't want that fight. They have so much plans for that kid and He's not gonNA play by any anybody's rules literally bodies rules. I think it also has to do with the fact that You know the High Mongia switched trainers is in this. Wasn't this his first fight. Rather with era records the second it was his first. I believe one or two her show. Maybe they did. And you know Andrea Dangerous. You know no one's going to deny that how dangerous I don't think we'll ever know until he gets in there with another elite level type of fighter but while he's challenging and defeating the Brian Rosen and stuff of the world will really never know but I think and hope at least Williams can give us some sort of the gauge. I think he'll be tough enough speaking of Williams and let me just double check but I believe I scheduled him. He wanted to come on a day. But we're totally booked today Which sucks because You know we're discussing his fights or would have been better to do it today but looks like we'll have him Tuesday Three o'clock so next week Tuesday not not too long. We'll be talking this topic once again with Liam Williams who was ordered by the WB L. to begin negotiations. Speaking of those negotiations. Let me just get out to that audio. Warren did add some things to say but really all facts. You have advised us. We're in negotiations at the moment for him to for android and that sounds like something happen fairly soon. We'll have that we're in negotiations. Could Fox go type place within the next of ninety to one hundred twenty three? So he's got to go ask science can win that. Let me tell you it can be android. I know he can he can be android. That was a phenomenal performance. He had lost and I agree with. Frank was a phenomenal performance but it was alarmed tests. Fox You know. I had a lot of hopes and dream in Fox. Because he's one of the guys I met early in. I've watched his entire career developed. So you know I wanted him to do good it was. Us versus UK but Liam rose to the occasion. I don't know that that fight gave us the clear indication that he could be Andre. The way the frank is suggesting though. Now they're certainly levels to Fox and Andre and I I don't know I just don't see it's not a fight that I don't think he can win. It's a fight. I don't think he will win. You know what I mean you know. He's a talented enough fighter. It's not about whether or not he's incredible pony because I don't want to make it seem like just because most people would go with Andrade in this situation which I don't even I'm not even saying that I am they might not but I don't know I guess people don't respect Booboo as much as I do. I I think Andrade fans respect him a little more than the outside public. You know what I mean. I think that He hasn't gotten his just do and yeah he hasn't you know he doesn't have that big fight to name but I don't know he's done all the right things. And there's been a lot of bad luck in his career but No He's talented fighter. I just don't see him having any issues In this fight I'm also on live with Mario. I know I said that is probably the best Opponent to face the meters Andrei but when you talk about the region man like I know people say many guys boring took forever to get a little killer Outta here. The guys talented guys. Skillful Guy got got got some good power so I know Leeann when using want this night. And he's GonNa come in and be a dog and be and be all over him but it's level to this boxing day man and a leading Williams is on the level of the meters. Andre even know the Liam's mill fights the first fight in the kind of controversy. I believe it was a here but in and went to the scorecards a second by with very very close if not like Liam Smith just white wisely Williams all right some facts obviously Liam Williams is the number seven in the WBO and the WB L. Have ordered a middleweight champion. Two Major Sandra to defend his title against Leon Williams. Now Eddie hearn. Promoter of UH dimitrius is looking to stage this fight in June in Providence Rhode Island the home of Dimitrius Andrei and it will be a main event on a design cart according to Michael Carpenter. I just WANNA say ED. He's been treating Andrea did fantastically. I may not be happy with the last five fights including this one right because he's at four fights already with them and this will be his fifth or was it five fights in. This'll be as six. I don't know but I'm not happy with any of the fights. They didn't give us any fight that I wanted. The only one that it's like okay was so lucky because it was a common opponent with some other elites show is showed where he was at but If I'm Andre I'm Su- over the moon with what he's doing for me hometown fights. I mean this is going to be his second. He was about to get Billie Joe in his hometown right. They're treating him really really good outside of getting him. That big marquee fight right. They can't get them that Big Marquee. Faisal's paying them. Well their main eventing him. I mean he was main event in Miami main event in his hometown bringing him back to his hometown. I mean I I wouldn't be mad if I'm Andrea if I'm Andrea Fan. I'm highly upset. Andrei Fan I mean if I'm android fan I mean. I don't even know how to spell to people's name on his resume in the last five fights Williams is the first guy that rolls off the tongue properly. Who the hell is he been fighting? And you're You're right by the nest. This is This is going to be the fourth fight. He's had three So it yeah listen. You're absolutely one hundred percent correct on. This eighty has treated very well. They've done exactly But here's the thing too though I think booze earned that You know he's had such a hard time throughout his career at one fifty four in his. Hbo Days had trouble getting opponent trouble getting dates. You know you'll see these big lulls in his In his career. And that's not even talking about the big one that he had There are other ones where there were time in between fights that it was a waste so he deserves to get treated. You know well. He deserves to I guess be given that kind of a side spotlight even though he really isn't among the elites in that division or really any division But he deserves his shot and I think he's going to get it to give it to him and once he does that. The their relationship comes full circle so You know that would be the best thing that both could accomplish and I think that's exactly what he wants to get him. Just saw budding in. This is actually going to be as fistfight. Not He's already had four. Walter and I know this is not how you pronounce it. But I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS. I can one day archer ACA Taw which is a k a wolverine and. I'm not even going to try to pronounce his first name but Celeski. Who's a common opponent with Daniel Jacobs and then Ireland's Luke Keillor? You know McGregor's little brother or you know whatever cousins of Sunday night. That something like that but as Andre Fan. I'm more I'm more just sitting back and a man is again San Andreas steady out. The top at one sixty Ben. Calling entrepreneur then then called out Jamaal Charles so it's not like the guys if it's sitting back and resting on his laurels and not saying that I wanNA fight. Anybody he's he he wants to fight. Everybody wants to get into running with the best time at the time. It just seems like he. Just get the short end of the stick. People are just treating them like you. Don't have a built. Sorta like Crawford no one fan and not give him the proper respect to unify so could not a good love. Couldn't Jamaal Charles man you guys are on notice and Mike? What Bell does W We're about this call for that. W.
"luke keillor" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"This day. I must've forgot rolling. Just baby top-35. On zone last year number one coming in. Hey Sa Paul Logan Logan Paul Joshua released New Mexico Nationally. Priestly hold on hold on slowdown. So let me claim Let me clean my win. Will be preaching they've Ruiz's Eisai will be preaching. There is thirty six point. Six million a Mexican Americans in America. Josh exactly 'cause Joshua's UK fans shit on zone. They can't even watch it. On Czars. No I gotTa make sure I gotTa make sure my audience knows that nobody from the UK counts on that. Okay Jada they get to watch it on sky sports okay. I mean listen listen. How do we got Morgan vans than he got you gave is? That's my question to you. Champion number two was Sergei Coppola versus gunmen Mexicans like the goal and say Paul. Oh Oh my fucking idea get royalties I get no respect. Rodney dangerfield style. That was my idea. Yano at at least you know it at least Yano and that's all the matters like I say every day I'm a Gemini. I got ideas for days. Y'All Eddie won't take my call but he's still my dear. I should dig up the interview in Texas to his ASS. Remember when you told me though you know what I mean now you I fucking youtube in it up. Let's go let's go Chan. I'm hi his fight week. Baby I WANNA talk about the number one heavyweight in the mother fucking world only around the talk about King Nero Mer which has come on. Wait wait wait please. Law Let them not be Cannella chats and if they all change. I'm just changing law. This is a bow out. The heavy weight of the world get a glare set him. No one watches on that obscure out. Here we go now though. Did one million dollars went back to six hundred K. For Twenty Bucks and this is coming from CR V. necks living in the past. Canola used to be the face but the seven zero four says six hundred watching smash data like buddy. Don't know about job but we worked. See why pre comes in and says sixteen feet if five strides so did six seven water fast new or strikes back that take your Ip l. a. a Mi- a mite. So what if his Roman Chocolat? Doing the fire strives may get this man out here okay. What if what if what if it's me during the five strikes against Roman against Roman how old fifteen months fifteen feet is far stras for any human being it S. CRV says cannetto offer. Billy Joe Saunders. Three million water opponent Ortiz Guy. Seven million pay per view. Money can pay per view pay per view. Pay Pay pay per view. Saying can't you can't leave that little fact out. Kenley fashion offer or two seven. I think it was a pay per view. I think it was the site that idiom offer Ortiz seven million in they said Abra. Y'All can't give us no less than any off because we turned that down. Because you guys said you guys GonNa Take Care Of. I think I see more. Honestly we're gonNA talk about this. I see more business move. Eddie has two options. Torri options for Kennel in his camp. Billy Joe Saunders Dmitri Sandra Encounter Smith so he has a hold borough again. It's a strike if he tells them all whole Dow if he tells them all listen. Durban Tanko Point Five. I think you deserve XYZ. We're holding out and he's probably telling them all JOE. I'm making Andrea. Hold out for this. Uh Nor billy's not gonNA take less than this Andrea and then tell calum like calum billy orange taking it for less you know. He's putting his team on the same because now is Canal Dallas options. Okay Okay you don't WanNa find my gosh cool. Go do sign over there. Do you want that triple that you keep telling the world you don't want plus triple j just reported that he hurt his leg so he ain't ready. They no way he's going to be ready. I know call the mentioned that there's no way he's ready. He just pulled his sediment off. I bet so so now. Canales run an option. So that's when we seen even off a California I say Holy Shit Fuck Your. They said the rumor was the offer. Keller play on Michael Carbon. Just tweet right so plant says no so now. That's another less option. He's running out of options. He might contact Bob for Gilbert. Oh but remember go. Bertha was allegedly rumored to be getting out of his contract. He's running out of options. Freddie Freddie I meant to say Eddie's putting a strong whole because he got three important players this is business one. Oh one option as a guy that ain't busy all right who tomorrow Shiloh. And she ain't gotTA fight grant again. You be there again but the rumor was. He offered him a on offer that I mean we've seen stuff from credible sources that he offered an offer so he's going out of the boxes. What I'm saying and Eddie has a big part to play in keeping three of his guys away. Even rider is his remembered. I wanted to make the office suite enough. Danny got my office. We Enough Yogi if you WANNA fight you and that's what I'm telling you. Maybe the offer is sweet but because I got three players sweeten it up more because I'm can give you any any name. He knows Brooke if you don't want to get us. If I just put on Billy on this Kevin Smith you pay per view in a stadium sales about thirty forty thousand. Haven't come out big ADS. Fight over there Andrei Sarah Lee. He'll find a circle or fight. He can fight Gabe Rosado. Andre thank you for the gate North Gate. What did they do fine? It's a common opponent with a lot of people coming up on him with Charles comment upon which are low common opponent with Daniel Jacobs. It does way more than I can. One day in fucking Luquillo all this more than that. What they what is it doing more than I bro? I don't watch hockey one day live. I didn't watch Luquillo. Live like if you WanNa get me live at least do challenge triple g depending there with Murray the billionaire Daniel Jacobs he been in there with Charlie Jacob Building of. Oh no he ain't been with Jay goes but he was able to. He fought lawler Djamil. Gay For several Jim now before Peter calling him and he'd been there with quilting is what I'm saying. It's a better. Barometer is a listen I know? Gay got a lot of losses but so did align. This Alito is not a barometer so did so then Hustle Soto Karaz and he was able to get a win over Andre Berto on in history up becoming do. He's a champion. It ain't no fucking around eight my friend and I get you but the problem. Is he still fighting knocking one days? And leuke La's all I'm doing all. I'm doing is matchmaking slightly better I'm Lisa I'm slightly better. The Fuck is art in one day. He has four fights already on matchroom and I can only remember them to names. Won't you help me help him? Rain He fell he if I I don't know what that is. Who is that you know when you see you? So you don't know his name. I just told you. Okay fucking Andrei. Doing okay okay. So after after Wolverine who full after move rain that cares car so he oh he fall. I can one day I Walter. And he fought. He fought Walter Akinwande. I on on his debut on Zone in Boston. When Billie Joe tested positive for nasal spray for the bill after that he defended that vacant title Versus Ardor Aca Cough Aka Wolverine. Who Billie Joe beat before him. He went twelve rounds with. Actually he wanted to get a job if you go back and Actually Watch that. Fight the The hometown decision Joe came in out of shape lackluster performance and rain. In my opinion enough to win that site on all scorecards and they just Robert at the night and after that he fought celebrity who Jacobs beat before him and after that he fought Luke keillor so maybe Celeski who beat reside owes someone can say but he already demand to be demand but in my opinion. Rosado is more popular than Celeski. Aca Call Akinwande and Luquillo. Someone can argue with me. The LUQUILLO bring some sort of international flavor being from Ireland. I won't debate background rain Shit. Well there you go there you go i. If you can't get Andrea fight you can give them that fight. But let's look at box wreck Thailand by career and never gonNA fight. We got canal. Oh I could be a champion at one sixty and I mean just rundown this bro so you can see the reality of what's going on can Nello I pick one gennady. I'm busy until Cannella picks me Chris. Eubank I'm busy with Charl- Charlie. Oh I'm busy you. Bank dimitrius unknown hymie unknown d'oeuvres Ymca Fido during if if an Oscar you WANNA make a move in and try to tack that. Wbo Car they coming from off-key for a and they were champion so they may have some kind of right at Wbo. What's this guy is already? The number one is not gonNA take it remember. He was trained as a Erik Morales. They're not gonNA rush nothing wounded they can get it and they might be the biggest fight for Andreotti. Then I'm GONNA rush into it but like okay. That would be his biggest fight so far d'oeuvres in Chanko. That's a good fight but you heard you heard kief Conley and Lou Dibella on this show. No office is performance radioed Marotta. You heard he's off the table for Canelo and he's obviously not gonNA face any of the seven names. We just mentioned. Maybe we don't know who he possibly could go and fight Somebody who maybe maybe Triple J he's injured he. Maybe maybe he can stick entree over there and where in Japan Japan okay if Andrea is will if android in his father lifelong trainer or willing to go to Japan. I think that Andre has gone to the UK. I'm not sure where the Brian Rose Fijacko Klay over there. Okay Germany Germany somebody okay. I don't know how differences because I know Japan ain't that that's that's like another day so I don't know brother because Brandon Rios look like Shit versus Louisiana Tech. That guy go up behind him if he take it. Go Stellar Gay. But that's the thing that fight big with Andre. It may not be. That fight is big Canadian. Canola with aim bigwig. Andre Andre gets it. I'm a hybrid. Like is big. I think we're autumn. Mirada can bring people out. We seem to Kinda cry and Japan. Br Anthem saying like Andrei GonNa have to go over to a five down the states. Let's move on. What is Jeff Han? During he beats a fi pay for. He's actually FAISI fighting. Tim Zouk son of Kosta Zoo. So he's so he's off the table. Which would've been a decent name for Andre? Let's be real. He's not fighting with sixty again but he is the one sixty cam said. That was wrong away. They're not going back up to one sixty and that's what I'm saying. Get that does oh money. Maybe THAT CHANGES. Jeff has a naming four-pack. Y'All lost Terence Crawford beat the FIDAI. You know about the beat. Tim Zukas Tim. Zoos never been on this level be shutting Knezevic in rounder. Going down the line. We don't want Liam Smith again is LIAM SMA. Fight that you want. I don't I don't want them Smith. I think the First Andres an salad fight as it's a common opponent would connote come opponent with monkey. Yeah he had some success against monkey a lot more success than he had against Cannella. This is what I'm saying. Gabe Rosado does more than Liam Smith. I think I think actually you. You could put gay versus Smith and let the winner just to get that that role the way. The box and work is a by economics man. If Gabriel Rosado could somehow knock out Liam Smith in America on. Let's Say New York he would get Cannella fi quicker than all these other guys. Why because Mexico versus Puerto Rico's built in box rivalry who won't respect the look at the Gal may fourteen long all right. But that's why you gotTa Knock Out Liam Smith let's see let's see Lien Fort last at sixty and he's ranked where I was going to say. Dan. He's number two but that was that's the other William he had he had. Our guest is more no respect for you brother but that that ten gram negative you have fifteen seconds you would have been out of their Leeann even ranked sixty what. We're not only once maybe twice. Maybe twice I. I can't find them on any sanctioning body. Top fifteen sixty one sixty. Feber mentor is right there at one. Sixty not BRA WITH IRMA fight. I don't see anything. I'm GONNA screen shot. I don't see anything form that's crazy. Smith AC- zoom in analog. Y'All big for sixty. Actually you know what I'm saying. I mean that's not even a good fight for him. No no no no I was just saying not just like as far as I name recognition in possibly beautified that they put on me. Look let's be honest Andre does not the headline star. You know saying you're not going and you know about the fight he's GonNa Fight Liam Williams before he finally hired a monkey you and again Liam Williams Liam Smith Liam Smith got more clouds than Liam Williams in not only did he beat but he fought in laws to Canelo..
"luke keillor" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Forty five left right or any of these other great quarterbacks that we've seen when quarterback did you think is going to go into boys that's taken into locker room now with three timeouts level and a minute forty five come on boys. We'll we'll get them in the second half. No no no a minute. Forty five live left if you score. Now you've got the momentum of the game maybe that changes the whole gay and they're getting the ball to start you what I'm saying. You get the ball and you and your score and you get the borders to to start the second half the momentum you have it might be a game changer. But but but but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about what you would normally do. Normally you probably use those time out. So he doesn't use a timeout cocktails. Ticks ticks ticks ticks and then all of a sudden they hit a couple of big place and moving the ball but they didn't ever call neither good coach Tom here but now there's like twenty seconds left so whatever was and then they got a penalty that came came and all that. But I'm just saying I'm not accusing anyone to choke. I'm just making a point here about life about that moment. That could have changed changed. The course of the whole game for me was there was a million things. I mean Andy. Reid did a magnificent job. Calling a game offensively unbelievable but the so many different parts of the game. But I'm just saying for me that that might have been the biggest part the most important turning point of the game with nobody even really thought about him and and then of course what happens in the fourth quarter. Listen you could probably say Andy. Reid was being a little conservative putting the fourth quarter. What does he do? He opens it up. He over and now look you guys out this teddy stick to box in your box and expert. But I'm just saying I know pressure I know I know about the realm of that whether it's football or whether it's boxing or whether it's a teacher in a classroom and a different situation with somebody watching for the first time to she teach differently so I'm just saying the just thought that that should be brought up and I understand understand. Look the better quarterback was on the I get all that I get all that I do but at the end of the day was tied game. Those as a minute. Forty five left in the first half. I probably could so people go. Yeah you're right Eh. I I forget how to and I I had I had the over. I'm not trying to rile you up. Just talk about what we talk about over here and we cost over to all things that have to do. A pressure pressure. That's what we talk about pressure. Well I can tell you why they didn't score at the end of the second half at the end of the first half. 'cause I bet on the forty niners see actor Casey. In fact see that see. That's how it makes sense. Wow that's wow terrible terrible day from the San Fran fans out there. I gave Kesse Bill. I apologize to you. We try to make up for it down the row. Yeah let's get into some. We'll get into some boxing picks but Let's get into the fight. Action couple fights this past week Let's start with the main event on the The zone car dimitrius Andrea Against Luke keillor one-sided fight on paper. I JUST WANNA quickly point out to you. The odds on the last ten and fights that Andre had since he fought Venus. Matter Much Rosen. The odds were on his his last ten fights minus twenty five hundred minus two thousand minus sixteen hundred minus three thousand minus thirty three hundred minus sixteen hundred minus ten thousand minus five thousand thousand minus eight fifty and again Keeler was minus five thousand. That's a problem. I know the guy style makes it difficult for him to get matches because he's it's hard to look good against he's very slick very athletic very defensive but gone now it's worse than no worse but it's boxing is what it is. They're not going to take really chances. Are they're going to give up S- out when I can when they control promoters control everything is not just this that work this organization. It's everybody be body. They're they're gonNA give lay ups when they can and Waiting to there's something really on the line you know. And their world world making an eighty twenty five ninety ten fight you know ninety percent ten eighty percent twenty percent the I know it's not right to the fans and I know I get it. I've been fighting on on. Espn about it and got myself nor kinds out water about it while trying to bring to the best we could but at the end of the day you know they're going to. They're not going to really take a risk and to this a fight that they feel is aw. Aw is worth the risk. It's kind of like again. I go into movies. It's kind of like the movie heat. Where Robert Deniro said you you want to do this one? It's worth took risks. You WanNa do this. You know you just got out of the CAN do. It's worth the risk and so it's a little bit like listen getting down to the fight right you said it right. I mean there was only one guy to run. It looked like two guys see. That's where we play tricks on you in boxing. It looked like with two people and then they'll look to people to know there's only one and we we talk reality but a lot of people and used to it. So Oh my God I've got people come up to me non they. They've watched the PODCAST chief. You guys. Wow you guys say things said well. We'll just say that's why you don't see press roll the fruits he's saying you know I mean really at the end of the day it still should be about the truth and you know. I know it's hard. You look at the politics now and you look at everything in the world and then say the truth what is what is it like where to go where to go. Yeah you know. Where did you go joe? Dimaggio you know and But this guy terrain I mean theoretically anything it can happen in a great sport of boxing yet to know you guys still got up to punch guys still got you know what I mean. We have sudden level of something and and the storm has to be has to be a perfect storm of things that have to happen that the stars lineup but there was only one guy was GonNa win this fight obviously and you just put on the facts out there in a really good way drought. He started very fast. AST now making no excuses for but sometimes when you drop a guy like he dropped like a half a second writing to beginning sometimes when you drop it with his left hand from the South Pole position because that's could be the power ahead just like the right hand gun ought to vital we get you back into turning getting into it. You can all you power to when that happens. Sometimes it screws up. I know it sounds funny but sometimes It's an easy night. He already told it was going to be an easy night. That's yeah let's face this. He knew what he was fighting and that was a layup. Maybe a slab bulk. Whatever and so now you drop the guy say live certified so this is going to be an easy night and you can't get yourself into the place state you should always be in as a professional in any realm of anything you think where you're doing things fundamentally right? You're still doing things that other proper things to do whether you got an easy not an easy night. You're doing things right and you can't. You can't get yourself back to where you need to get yourself back the horses out of the bond. It's going to be an easy night. I'm just going to land a punch that say I'm just could you still got a professional fighter of a certain level in funny that you know what if you just punts from four blocks away. He's going to get a cab cap. Give me out of here before this punch come see common. Stout thirty Third Street now fits get Outta here. So I think that part harder that happened and the end result the byproduct of it was that Andrei didn't look good. He was sloppy. He was was he looked strong and physical and obviously he was the better talent and he was in with an overmatched ponant which is the plan but he he really look sloppy even amateur amateur wish in spots where he was just reaching him with one pump because that was on his mind it happened so we figured okay. It's really going to happen so he couldn't make that adjustment back away. You should be as a professional where you do. The Right Way is used a JAB. You still set it. Up is still use some trickery we you still use the experience. That should be used to do it. No I'm just. I landed a punch in two seconds. I'm going to land another one. I'm just going to throw it. And and he was he showed he was out of control. He was sloppy. He didn't look good to the credit. The other the guy give him credit he showed guts maybe a little maybe a little awkward cleverness once once he got hurt are hard to catch a guy if we just trying to survive more than he's trying to win. Yeah but you're not helping yourself. Any hundred was not helping himself Vinnie by the way he was approaching it and part of it for me to break it down as Andrei dried. He's on address style as always you style. Your physical style is always connected to your mental temperament. Never Forget Tadic always connected. It's like trains going down to track. But don't forget those trains are connected to to the lead train to the the engineer train to the motoring. They're not trained on their own. They connected the same thing the body's really not on a dull. It's connected to this and it does. This does end does what does says. It does what this feels. And your temperament issue temperament Andreotti is is a careful guys. A cautious guy is more setup. He's long range. He's got those long arms he's he's got good physical ability he's Atlantic he had a great amateur background was Olympia. And he's got all those things going for he's got talent but has the engine delete train is to be careful not to go get you. He went he went out side himself by goal right aft- to partly because he knew what he had in front of him so he went right. It worked and then he couldn't like I said he could get it back like he couldn't get away could calm it down. It was just just kept chucking there and he went against his natural style he he was out of sorts to begin with because it's not true styles to set traps APPs. He's an awkward guy himself to be quite frank. He he's defensive-minded it's it's to get things done that way. And he was forcing the issue. He was forcing awesome. The usual I had an all night. This guy that is like sitting at the dinner table force food down. And he's not enjoying it he just just he's just shoving it down and and it showed and it showed in like I said he he he wasn't he just at the end of the day he got it done. Obviously he finally got rid of the guy. According to guy missed a lot of punches look look great. He he didn't do anything to really mocked himself as the top weight. He's better than that but he didn't show it that night. You know. I'm sure the Charles I'm sure the Billy Smith Saunders. I'm sure that they were triple g canal. I'm sure all those guys. Why law will kind of bullied a little Bowie boasted a little bit by that performance? Saying hey you know. Maybe I'd like to get a hold of this guy where before I was a little little bit more more resident. The resident's resisted that idea. You know and now now might make more sense you know that. He can't get fooled by that but he doesn't look like the big bad wolf has much in some ways not against that guy because of the way that who played out the way exactly which was broke down of that it did play out Yup while there was certainly a lot of entertainment on the undercard of that event Two fights before that we had Joe Joe Dias and Tevin far which was a barn burner of a fight. Joe Joe Dias suffering as has bad a cut as you'll see in the second round from an accidental headbutt. I to be honest with you. I was shocked that the ref continued to let the fight go. It was almost like he could see out of his eyelid. It was cut so bad and it was interesting to see him. React to react to that cut and kind of dig down versus what happened with Jay Rock Williams the week before who got a cut and seem to be very bothered by almost came apart and like lost sight of the mission at hand in cost him his title whereas Joe Dias almost seem to embrace the cut in the adversity and picked it up. He bullied Kevin Farmer all night. I thought he won almost every round and he literally just bullied bullied and beat them up all night and it was rough house in them every chance he got ref let a lot of the stuff go thoughts on that one..
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"I am doing great Chris a lot of good fights but I'm really looking afford heavyweight title. Fight coming up. I love myself heavyweight title fight so I can't wait till water and fury to. I'm looking forward as well. But it's you know because you said that I'm going to jump down the rundown here real quick and like boxing in January. I look at it and there was some fun fun. Upsets I mean Jesse heart versus Joe Smith No. I don't think that was a big upset. Huge but Jason Rosario knocking off Jay Rock Williams those made for entertaining moments but like like they were like especially in the case of Rosario too big upset about this past weekend Dimitrius Android Luke keillor's to blow. It still is a problem in boxing that these main events are not fifty fifty even sixty four types. That's what it needs like. What is your experience you have? It happens way more often. I think I think that's the one advantage. Dana White has over boxing. He's conditioners fans to expect you know fifty fifty or fifty five forty five fights in there and all Fights not just in the end the main event you know every now and then you can't help it and you get one. That's a little wider than that. But that's what you get weekend and week out in May and and so the fans expect that and they get upset when you have like Donald Cowboys. Ruining the all time leader in wins and people were upset that he was fighting conor McGregor because you know he had lost two fights in a row. Oh so but in boxing that I trust me crazy that is to think. Why is Luke keillor getting a world title shot forget about why Andrea fighting but why why is getting a world title shot? He doesn't deserve it and we saw that ten seconds into the fight. Yeah less I knocked down came very quickly for android. I mean as some of the covers sports sorts is there anything boxing could take from. UFC that that would be useful or is it just the fact that boxing is so fragmented whereas Dana White has control over ninety percent of the top talent. I think you know that. That's the fair statement. Chris you know when you look at it. There's so many promoters so many networks they all have divergent virgin interest and in MMA business. You know you really have to interest you have UFC. Which I would say probably has seventy to seventy five percent of the top one hundred Fighters in the world. And then you Bella tour which is the second big promotion and their own buy viacom slash. CBS and they have a large number of the best fighters in the world. And then that's that's it and you have see able to make most of the great fights that they wanna make as a result when you go into boxing Terence Crawford fighting for top rank and there's is a ton of good fights out there form but al Hayman has his own ideas of what he wants to do because he has guys lined up and he can put on Fox and not have to deal with Arum and talk about do. I I want to put Crawford on. ESPN or what am I going to do. That's the problem really inherent in boxing. And it's Never GonNa Change under the current system that we have. I mean I won't I. I will probably send over Gaza one this past weekend. I think he's a candidate to fight. Turns Crawford as kind of like an Andy Release Type Sea level. PBC Guy going over to if i Crawford but we still outside a while fury. We still haven't seen evidence that they're able to work together. You know they did Gary Russell Aloma Chanko and there've been a couple of other things but mandatory situation. Yes you're right there it adds a right. I it's rare that we're going to. We're going to get that. Let's be on us. You know but it's rare with anybody I mean I don't WanNa put the blame on Arum and hemant You know look zone Did the fight with Ramirez and Maurice Hooker which is good but you don't see those two sides working together a lot. This is just a big problem and I think call these exclusive contracts. I loved it back in the showtime. Hbo Days when Jay Larkin. The late Jay Larkin came out said great fights no right and they decided not to sign these long term contracts with fighters so that they could cherry pick good fight. It was easier to do that in that day. Because you didn't have as many competing entities now you have a lot more options and everybody everybody wants to exclusives again so it makes it a lot harder. Yeah I think that's something with my understanding of what they're trying to do. In twenty twenty is that is more towards that that Jay Larkin model there. I mean it's they're looking to not necessarily sign guys to multi fight deals but get these big fights like perhaps a hooker versus program some point this summer. I think that's top of their agenda. Yeah I think that that's really what they need to do. Because I think if you look since September of eighteen when they started and they promised I you know pay per view level fights on a subscription service. I think you got your money's worth if you're a boxing fan you know. There's been a lot of good fights on dissolved his own. You haven't gotten your money's worth if you're a casual fan. Who wants to see the big name? You WanNa see Canelo Alvarez and Floyd Mayweather. You're not seeing those guys in those kind of fights L. Canelo oh to their credit has fought forget rocky fielding but he came back and he fought Danny Jacobs and Kovolev in his last fight so that was good but but I think for the most part the type of that we were thinking of fights ahead on. Hbo Pay per view for years are not showing up on zone. And that's the real problem. I think if they can pull that off and make that switch then I think they're going to get ahead of the game. I mean I think it's a really good service for me and you fight fans but it's not such a good service for just somebody who wants to watch a big fight every now and then. Let's talk about this past weekend. Anyone that listened this podcast knows Ahmed Dimitrius android fan really. I just look I believe in the guys talent. And I'd love for him to get the ability to showcase it against one of those guys. Unfortunately what we saw Luquillo Keiller was a level versus D.. Level at that point just a completely one sided performance as somebody is another side of this conversation. Give me your thoughts thoughts on on Android and his whole situation right now. Well I am high on Android but less than than you are. I just don't like you know. I talked to him when he signed if I- Keeler and I brought up with his father said to him and the celebrity fight and after the first round. Hey Don't do this be careful and it was almost it's like you know instead of going out there and have that star making performance blow this guy out in two rounds and and get out of there and look good. He's saying be cautious. Just don't take any chances whatsoever so ever and I think in boxing the rea the reason you become a star to a certain degree is if you take risks in you succeed and manny. Pacquiao is a great example that he took took a ton of risk. We find one memo Marquez. He he failed utterly but people still loved him for that. And I understand you know it. It's easy for me to sit here and on this Chair and say you know Dimitri Andre should take risks when I'm not the one in the ring fighting and it's not my health but if you WANNA complain about not getting the big fights and you WanNa complain about uh not getting the exposure and the big paydays. You have to do what it takes to get that especially in. This fractured time. The sport what we talked about earlier just dovetails into his situation. All right if you want to get those kind of fight if you WANNA be in that type of spotlight you have to fight fights at people get turned on by and he's not doing that and I thought aw he really embarrassed himself against the Luquillo he he. He couldn't get this guy out of here. The corner was going to stop the fight. After what was it. The second or third round mm Keeler was just totally overwhelmed. You could see emotionally. He was he just couldn't deal with it and to meet your still couldn't get him out of there and to me. That was an embarrassment. I think he's a great talented Allenton. I think if he were to say Hello Alvarez he would give Carmelo a lot of trouble because he's such a good boxer. But there's that special something that make Floyd Loyd Ford and Manny Manny. Camila Cabello and I don't know that Dimitrius has that one of the things. I was surprised that he struggled with was the ability. To finish you know as I'm watching from from ringside he just was if he had just slowed down a little bit. Maybe taking a step back and come forward. He probably would have been able to finish Keeler but he was so he can never create eight that space and for a guy that we look at as an elite talent. You've got to be able to do that. That's something that you gotTa get into the gym and figure out don't you. I mean that's that's a big part of of being a great fighter being able to finish properly the thing that I looked at in that fight that really concerned me. Chris was his foot work. I thought killer dictator where the fight went in terms of Cuba was moving to try to get away. Keeler did not WANNA fight. Keeler was trying to survive but Dmitri did not trap them in a corner when when Keeler got to a corners because he went to the corner where he wanted to go and he stood there. You know I think Dimitrius has to be better at cutting off the ring and in a situation like that and I think that was the same same thing that happened with celebrity and that fight he needs to get in a situation where he makes them fight where he wants to fight and how he wants to. He has the ability to do that. I don't know if he lost concentration `concentration or what it was but certainly if he would have done that he could have picked his shot gone to the body a little more than he did. You know he was head hunting a lot with those shots that he was throwing. I think he stops that guy easily and I think one really good body shot would probably put him down and kill. You would've said I've had enough and I think the rough looking for a reason to stop that fight. Yeah no Andrea. THOUGHT HE ADAM. I'm in the second row climbing up on the ropes that second time. He's done that by the way where he has not knocked the guy out. In those circumstances you know Dimitrius after the fight was talking about Billy Joe Saunders in my role in the ring I was trying to steer him away from that back to Charles. Charles I do love the fight a lot and I don't understand why I it hasn't come through for wishy given how much money has been put up here but I just look I understand android. Saunders is a significant fight to world champions champions fighting but aesthetically like isn't that just a stinker like is that any could that possibly be a good fight. I look at that fight and I say both of these guys as have have really not had a lot of entertaining fights Andrea last fight. He was struggling and then he finished really well you know. He came from behind and finished and his fight against David lemieux a a couple of years ago I thought he was impressive. And how he fought but most of his other fight or not fight where they bring you out of the seat you know. He's effective. He wins kind of like Andrei but just not entertaining. Just not a guy that's going to you know make anybody's jaw drop And so I don't see that being there I think would dimitrius is going for and call on him out of saying well. I want to collect belts and I WANNA be able to show beat talent show. Hey how good I am by being guys. Other people. Widely acknowledged have talent if I beat the most avoided guy out there then I must be doing something right. I think that's where he's going. I agree with you though. I think a fight with Charlie would be a much better fight. I think cannella would consider fighting them. You know can all areas Lonnie Lara Canoas. Not Afraid of anybody. But I think Andre has to give Cannella L. O.. A reason to want to fight him. You know make it a better fight than just you know there's talk that was gonna Fight Murata I don't really care for that fight but you know. Morocco is a fighter. I hope he'll be there to fight..
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"On in boxing and now a man who I wish was called the Boston leader. It's sort of like getting punched in the face. All right we'll come back to another episode of the SL boxing. Podcast glad you could join me this week. Lot to get into lots of news going on in boxing. We have a terrific show lined up for you Kevin. I only senior boxing writer or sports. He is up. I we look back on the weekend. That was specifically the show. Down in Miami Dimitrius android knocks out. Luke Keeler to defend his middleweight belts. Yet terrific fight between seven farmer. Joe Dias the youtube fights continue to be a thing Kevin and I talk about all that and much more. We look ahead to to what could be next for. Cannella seems like Mirada is out as a potential opponent. What is canals next? Look like and will we see Cannella goffin down the line then the disturbing video devante Davis we talk about Davis a little and just why incidents like this seemed to be so accepted in boxing. We don't seem to. There's no repercussions for things like this for boxes. We talked about that and much more a little bit later on Bob. Arum the hall of fame. Boxing promoter always entertaining Bob. His Co. promoting the Tyson fury deontay wilder fight. Coming up on February twenty-second we talk about that. We talked about the state of top rank. The Future of the company after Bob. Arum is gone a whole host of topics one of the most entertaining guys in all the boxing. I if you like this podcast. There's one easy way can support it head over at Apple podcast or itunes post a comment leave rating. It's simple it's easy. It's free if the best way to make sure that we keep doing this podcast week after week. That's it all right onto my conversation with Kevin Kevin. I only is here Yahoo Sports Boxing MMA writer. What'S UP Kevin? I am doing great Chris a of good fights but I'm really looking forward to heavyweight title. Fight coming up. I love my shelf heavyweight title fight so I can't wait till water and fury to. I'm looking forward to as well but it's you know because you said that. I'm going to jump down the rundown hero quick and like boxing January. I look at it and I. There was some fun fun. Upsets I mean Jesse heart versus Joe Smith even though. I don't think that was big up big upset a huge uptake but Jason. Rosario knocking off Jay Rock Williams goes made for entertaining moments but like they was especially the case of Rosario such a big upset this past weekend Dimitrius Android Luquillo blow like. It's still a problem in boxing that these main events are not fifty fifty even sixty four types of fights. That's what it needs like. That's what you're experiencing. Ufc it happens way more often. I think that's the one advantage. Dana White has over boxing. He's conditioners fans to expect you know fifty fifty or fifty five forty five fights in there and all the fights not just in the end the main event you know every now and then you can't help it and you get one. That's a little wider than that. But that's what you get weekend and week out in. May and so the fans expect that and they get upset when you have like Donald Cowboys ceremony. The all time leader in wins and people were upset that he was fighting CONOR MCGREGOR. Because you know he had lost two fights in a row so but in boxing. I tries me crazy that is to think. Why is Luke keillor getting a world title? I forget about why as Andrea Fighting. But why is he getting world title shot? He doesn't deserve it and we saw that ten seconds into the fight. Yeah less I mean I knocked down. Came very quickly for android. I mean as some of the covers both sports. Is there anything box and could take from? Ufc that that would be useful or is it. Just the fact is just there are facts. Are THAT BOXING. So fragmented whereas Dana White has control over ninety percent of the top talent. And I think that's the fair statement. Chris you know when you look at it There's so many promoters so many networks they all have divergent interests and in the business. You know you really have to interest you have UFC. Which I would say probably has seventy seventy five percent of the top one hundred fighters in the world and then you have Bella tour which is the second big promotion they're owned by Viacom slash. Cbs and they have a large number of the best fighters in the world and then that's it and UFC is able to make most of the great fights that they want to make as a result when you go into boxing. We have tarrant Crawford fighting for top rank and there's a ton of good fight therefore him but al Hayman has his own ideas of what he wants to do. Because he has guys lined up at he can put on Fox and not have to deal Ehrman and talk about. Do I WANNA put Crawford on? Espn or what am I going to do? That's the problem really inherent in boxing. And it's Never GonNa Change under the current system that we have. I mean I want our probably send over a YouGov. Who won this past weekend? I think he's a candidate to fight. Turns Crawford as kind of like an Andy Ruiz type of sea level? Pbc Guy going over to fight Crawford but we still outside a wild and fury. We still haven't seen evidence that they'll be able to work together. Yeah you know Gary Russell Aloma Janko and there've been a couple of other things but mandatory situation right there. It adds to write I. It's rare that we're going to. We're going to get that. Let's be honest you know but it's rare with anybody I mean. I don't want to put the blame on Arum. Heyman look does own did the fight with Ramirez and Maurice Hooker. Which is good but you. You don't see those two sides working together a lot. This is just a big problem and I think all these exclusive contracts. I loved it back in the showtime. Hbo Days when Jay Larkin. The late Jay Larkin came out and said great fights no right and they decided not to sign these long term contracts with fighters so that they can cherry pick good fight. It was easier to do that in that day. Because you didn't have as many competing entities now you have a lot more options and everybody wants to exclusive account so it makes it a lot harder. Yeah I think that's something with my understanding of what does zones trying to do in two thousand twenty s that is more towards that that Jay Larkin model. They're they're looking to not necessarily sign guys to multi fight deals but again you get these big fights like perhaps a hooker versus program. Some point this summer I think that's the top of their agenda. Yeah I think that that's really what they need to do. Because I think if you look since September eighteen when they started and they promised you know pay per view level fights on a subscription service. I I think you got your money's worth if you're a boxing fan you know. There's been a lot of good fights on dissolve. But you haven't gotten your money's worth if you're just a casual fan. Who wants to see the big name you want to see Camello? Al Rosen Floyd Mayweather. You're not seeing those guys in those kind of fights. Canelo to their credit has fought forget rocky fielding but he came back and he fought. Danny Jacobs Kovalov in his last fight. So that was good but I think for the most part the type of fights and we were thinking fights ahead Ben on. Hbo Pay per view for years are not showing up on zone. And that's the real problem. I think if they can pull that off make that switch then. I think they're going to get ahead of the game. I mean I think it's a really good service for me and you fight fans but it's not such a good service for just somebody who wants to watch a big fight every now and then. Let's talk about this past weekend. Anyone that listen to this podcast those Ahmed Dimitrius android fan really. Just look. I believe in the guys talent and I'd love for him to get the ability to showcase it against one of those guys. And unfortunately what we saw Luke keillor it was a level versus D. level at that point just a completely one sided performance as somebody is another side of this conversation. Give me your thoughts on on Android and his whole situation right now. Well I am high on Andrey less I on and then you are. I just don't like I talked to him when he signed. Keeler and I brought up with his father said to him and the celebrity fight and after the first round. Hey Don't do this be careful and it was almost like you know instead of going out there and have that star making performance blow this guy out in two rounds and and get out of there and look good. He's saying be cautious. Just don't take any chances whatsoever and I think in boxing the rea the reason you become a star to a certain degree is if you take risks in you succeed and manny. Pacquiao is a great example that he took a ton of risk. No we find that one memo Marquez. He utterly but people still loved him for that and I understand you know it. It's easy for me to sit here and on this chair and say you know Dimitrius. Andre should take risks when I'm not the one in the ring fighting and it's not my health but if you WANNA complain about not getting the big fights and you WanNa complain about not getting the exposure and the big paydays. You have to do what it takes to get that especially in. This fractured time. The sport what we talked about earlier just dovetails into his situation. Right if you WANNA get those kinds of fight if you WANNA be in that type of spotlight you have to fight fights at people get turned on by and he's not doing that and I thought he really embarrassed himself against Luquillo. He couldn't get this guy out of here. The corner was gonNA stop the fight after it was at the second or third round. Keeler was just totally overwhelmed. You could see emotionally. He was he just couldn't deal with it and to meet your still couldn't get him out of there and to me. That was an embarrassment. I think he's a great talent. And if he were to say Hello Alvarez he would give a lot of trouble because he's such a good boxer But you know there's that special something that make Floyd Floyd Manny Manny Canola and. I don't know the Dimitrius. Has that one of the things. I was surprised that he struggled with was the ability. To finish. You know as I'm watching from ringside he was if he had just slowed down a little bit. Maybe taking a step back and come forward. He probably would have been able to finish Keeler but he was so he can never create that space and for a guy that we look at as an elite talent. You've got to be able to do that like that's something that you've got to get into the gym and figure out don't you? I mean that's that's a big part of of being a great fighter being able to finish properly the thing that I looked at in that fight. They're really concern me. Chris was his foot work. I thought cuter dictator where the fight when in terms of moving to try to get away either did not wanNA fight. Keeler was trying to survive but Dimitrius did not trap them in a corner when when Keeler got to a corners because he went to the corner where he wanted to go in the stood there you know I think Dimitrius has to be better cutting off the ring and may in a situation like that and I think that was the same thing that happened was selected in that fight. He needs to get in a situation where he makes them fight where he wants to fight and how he wants to fight. He has the ability to do that. I don't know if you lost concentration or what it was but certainly if he would have done that he could have picked a shot gone to the body a little more than he did. You know he was head hunting a lot with those shots that he was throwing. I think he stops that guy easily and I think a one really good body shot would probably put him down and Keeler would have said. I've had enough and I think. The referee looking for a reason stopped that fight. I Know Andrea Thought. He Adam and the second rock climbing up on the ropes. Like that second time. He's done that by the way where he has not knocked a guy out. In those circumstances you know Dimitrius after the fight was talking about Billy Joe Saunders in my role in the ring I was trying to steer him away from that back to Charles Charles..
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"His father is trainer in the corner between the first and second rousing. That's not our fight like that. You were sitting there with that. I I love hearing very nice. Love is love hearing that because when you go out of character which he was doing going for the knockout. That's when you get knocked out and then guess what your record becomes blemish lose your title. Because because he wanted to chase something. That's not you don't do that man. Get the win. Get your head out of your ass get the win. Let's move on. What are you talking about like you get? You can get a win but when when does winning by decision move the needle at all. When does beating did beating macek select for Android do anything for his career? In fact I think he lost momentum because of that he he had this guy hurt in the first round that I couldn't see left hands coming. He was buckled up in the second round with the same attitude. Maybe you get a stoppage and then you have some momentum to get Kamilo fight or GALOP can fight or Charles by download. You are a critic and I respect your opinion. I am a boxer respect mine. He's pitching shutouts. You know how difficult it is to win every single round thirty six minutes of a fight and he does it in. He pitched shutouts. He doesn't let you hit him and he almost gets you out. He knocks down opponents. He knocked down contract. We knocked down so lucky he can take him out not that he doesn't have power just not in his character. I've problem was. He didn't try after that. At first round he like. Maybe like if you go for it in the second round and selected with a couple of shots all right back up and fight more of a defensive takes one shot it takes one shot the next thing you know trying to please Chris Mannix just ruined. His career gets a blemish on. His career is not me by trying to please you okay. It's not me. He didn't get a big fight he he he fought that fight June and fought nobody else. The rest of the year was not even mentioned in the conversation with Cannella work does not have Charlotte so clearly. It's not just me saying that really didn't do much for him he knocks him out. I think that does a lot for him. He knocks Luke keillor out. Would you admit that knocking Lou keillor does not more. I think he's going to stop. Okay addict would you like if he beats Luke keillor twelve round decision. You're going to be like good job like if he goes one. twenty-one wave it's a shootout yes this is no he's GonNa start he needs to stop killer. I agree with you. He's going to have to stop a fighter like Luquillo one because he has been stopped before and he's been stopped by who thom durant or something like that. Yeah so he's been stopped before one until he's not on his level so this is let's get it clear it's a stay busy fight for Dimitrios android. They throw a bone. This is a stay busy. Fight strictly for that and he needs to get that impressive massive win so yes for this one he needs a knockout life needs. He signed a four or five extension match them. Those need to be big final coming up and that Charles should be front and Center for both those guys all right. Let me talk to you about conor Conor McGregor and the box out there. Now chasing Conor McGregor McGregor you know came back and UFC two forty six one in spectacular style reestablished himself ELP as top UFC guy and in the immediate aftermath. You had floyd mayweather on social media teasing a rematch against Conor McGregor for weeks before you. You had manny Pacquiao and his representatives. I WANNA fight Conor McGregor. You have bud Crawford and top rank saying we'll fight. CONOR McGregor in boxing will move over to the to the UFC and a UFC match against Crawford. What do you make of all these huge boxing stars fighting are looking to fight? UFC's ABC's biggest star. They're chasing the money. They're chasing the easy money because beating Conor McGregor in a boxing fight. It's easy money. I think any top ten contender can beat Conor McGregor Gregor. Have you seen him. Warm up with that arm wing thing can you imagine punching. He falls off balance he can go the distance. He got tired halfway through the fight with mayweather. He doesn't have the legs is to talk to box thirty six minutes. You're not on your toes and the UFC your wrestling can take breaks. It's just apples and oranges two different sports. That's why every Reebok's including myself throw my name in the mix. I'm celebrating a fight that that man I mean. He's not a boxer. Stay over there. But he's popular. He's a he's a caricature he he's like a An Irish mayweather. You know everyone wants to see him get his ass kicked but it's not going to happen because he's a really good. MMA fighter but he's not a good boxer. So yes everybody what everybody wants to fight him for the money that easy money. So is there any boxing match that you'd want to see Gregor no zero. I look I don't disagree. Yeah I mean I think it look especially when it's on paper view. It's just an unbelievable money. Grab like I didn't go to Mayweather McGregor the first one. Because why would I waste a weekend night and August to go go watch fight. I know how it's GonNa end like that doesn't do anything for packy out might even more violently McGregor's about Pacquiao fights the one thing I would say with I. I don't want to necessarily want to see this. But if they made like a to fight thing with Crawford Okay because you look down the pipe. There's nothing for Crawford in twenty twenty top. Rank has major problems making any kind of a fight of any kind of significance for Crawford is another one in the mix. And what did you have in common with every with android southpaw. Aw Amateur Pedigree. His his problem though is more politics than anything else and he won't fight Sean Poor. That's a big problem too. But if he can't I don't care if it's like if you can't get a fight against one of the top guys or even a top ten guy at welterweight I can see Crawford going in fighting a to fight McGregor and getting something out of it because Crawford Crawford is not as big star as Pacquiao and mayweather you fight conor McGregor and Connor McGregor never fight Crawford ever. Are you kidding me for money. No you're nuts. No that's another one money. Money doesn't solve everything well if it Kinda does or if it goes over to. UFC people would watch now man. Look no no no that. That's the wrong style match four horsemen more smart wrong for anybody. Some of the stupid. You find someone. If you're if you're conor McGregor you fight someone that people know but that's very limited not athletic not not fast not powerful not a pound for pound God authored. McGregor should be nervous about fighting Crawford in any in any sense of the word taught all men. Look I. Just stay away from Crawford. Don't don't mention that may even somehow that man would do something. Great Emanate Woods because he wrestled in middle school. Like I played a musical instrument. Middle School doesn't mean that can play at the Boston. POPs when I met Terence Crawford at Staples Center you know I went up to him. I go up too many boxes but I went up to him and I said hey man I got to say it's amazing easy to see you fight man watching you fight as watching a black Bruce Lee and he started laughing. I command amazing. What you do from southport Orthodox I go it just comes natural? I love watching you fight and he just need granny smiley goes I appreciate it. He's that special. So I I mentioned Bruce Lee thing because if he goes into anime somehow he can kick. If you've practiced three months and kicking that man will probably kick and it's not that I'm telling you practice to three months kicking and you can become a good. He's athletic I mean. Look at Bruce Lee. He's the study Muhammad Ali tapes tapes. He used to do the. Yeah a very good one. What do anything I was? I sat cage. Each side was when James Toney went over to fight randy couture at that point like ten fifteen years ago and that was an embarrassment names. Tony got in there and there was another one the first legs. And there's another one. There's two boxers I went into the I think it was It went well. Hell you never goes. Well they're usually a fighters that are past their prime when no legs eggs if you're going to go into the Ma better have a spring in your step when you get your legs but doesn't it this sport. The crop couldn't learn in a matter of months. There's no way you could learn that no matter uh I just said he can learn how to kick week learn. Who Just Jesse McGregor should stay away from him? Yeah you should literally getting a headache listening to you. Talk it circles here wash wash that that you should try being knee for once. Yes that's exactly what it's like but look I'm telling you right now. Up Mcgregor should stay away from Chris. They get easy money. Yes all right. Well I think I think it's it would build crop profile thing if he fought McGregor and I think he'd win in boxing and lose badly but he's pro would built in two thousand twenty one and it's not going to happen. It's is probably not gonNA happen either. Either real quick McGregor. UFC does a great job of building stars from not from scratch but you know one star Fades Age. The next one comes in you had Rhonda Rousey Huge Star in. UFC when she you know separate from them yet McGregor come up. They just had two guys with like double digit losses or something on their resume as madrazo fight for the with the baddest motherfucker belt or whatever that was. Yeah they just they. They did a great job of building stars Wise Boxing. It's such a problem at that and people would say it with you. I've seen a problem so you already. You're already rubbing me the wrong way by saying it's a problem. It's not out of problems. It's no it's not. It's a different demographic you're hitting a different demographic in the USC you're hitting that that wrestling WWF wwe demographic what is it. It's young white and in boxing. It's it's it's Latino populated with the pay per view. It's older and older and white so it's just a different demographic you're not gonNA you're trying to get pulled that crowd but no I mean who's buying pay per view is going to be the young kids that want to watch. This and Conor McGregor is very popular and he took a page out of Mayweather's book He. He he He's doing something that most most fighters most fighters don't do any carries himself with Swaggie and he does what mayweather does but for a WWF MA audience audience. Well there's a simple answer though that is often repeated in the UFC the best the best consistently like the top guys is fight all the time whereas in boxing we spend more time talking about guys. That's because they're all under one umbrella right. They're all under the umbrella you agree. That's the biggest problem politics in building stars like furious fighting wilder but one of the reasons I think that's not going to do as well as they hope it doesn't pay per view is because neither one of those guys has fought a lot of top competition prior to so you know Middle America. Those guys are you know the post you might hardcore boxing fan. Sure do but that's a major problem in depth opponents at boxers top. Fox's don't have is is a problem I agree with you it happens occasionally all right good fight this weekend. The best fighter card this weekend you have a different opinion but I think the farmer. Joe Joe Dias featherweight title fight ten far putting his hundred thirty pound title online against the back and forth with these two kind of building up for the last six months to a year with their social. Media's farmer has had kind of an android type run since he signed with his own title. He stayed busy but he hasn't had a marquee win. Joe Joe Dias. He lost his toughest fight to date against got Gary Russell. Now he's moving up two hundred thirty pounds on seven farmer. Let's start with WHO..
"luke keillor" Discussed on Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast
"I think jake no choice. You Know Jake wants to fly against Kassai and yeah. It's become apparent if given that he asked to go through and it's so yeah it's being pushed John J more than anything to be honest style wise. This one feels like it's going to be An entertaining spectacle. Would you agree with that hundred percent. I mean the two guys the thing. They're more cold than more. You know they can get in the zone of warning to each other. You know they're not just entertainers I think In both desperately expertly want to win more than anything I think I think this could shape up to be the best youtube boxing we've ever ever had one of them even though the event doesn't seem as peaking there's not as many people and the events don't seem to be packed I think overall the fight should be unbelievably entertaining. Take your here And I know try to stay neutral but you will have an inkling as to the way that you think is going to go. What would that be to be honest? I think it's going to be a wool. Honestly gave it was gonNA make it scrappy. He wants to make it conversation. A white collar talk. He doesn't want it to be technical and at the students where they're trying to pick shots and I think that's going to make it look a war proper battle with it's GonNa go the distance I don't think Jacob be able to get The shots away that he wants to. And I don't think Gabe we'll be able to be clean enough with his shots to get a K. O.. I think maybe the best obt. Ko from Gabe Balkan. See this in the distance Islamique Logan fight and give winning purely aggression you know orchestra and the fire pushing the fight and making it happen. This feels like it's divided besides as well That the youtube community on the UK. Soy come together and I think Jake Paul said one or two comments like the none of you. You Ca- I k.. Guys can fight and that's kind of made like an US against them type. Feel is that right. I mean but without doubt Jay Paul. Was this untouchable. Top of the game name character getting millions and millions of us on top of the world and now so the UK. We'll see his views of drop. He's not doing as well as he was. And if we love the fact that he's needing analyzing Gabe who used to make fief videos open impacts. He needs him in order to stay relevant essentially. So yeah we're pushing mission and we know what the dailies and we love it so if he wins this but the whole of twitter the hold of social media will just go crazy you know not just in the UK as well a thing around the world. One of the things I have to say I love the seven-figure Giver Energy. Yes brings up policy of energy winner. Roy brings great great to one thing before Woah. Just obviously we all come from the professional boxing world. We immerse ourselves in it. That's all day to day job How do you think things have been perceived off to I massive event between the two worlds colliding? Almost I think there was quite people. Were prepared to hate it unprepared for massive backlash. I don't feel like that happened happened from also I. Did you feel like catchy. There was a mutual respect. There will a thing look. It was the most entertaining fall on the night. You know you had these. These professionals showcased amazing skills but the entertainment limit value was in that you know the main event and Logan which I think it was amazing. You know obviously there are people you know we do agree. It wasn't the best quality and it wasn't by evenly. Yeah it was scrap. It was entertaining. It's what you know while we love books in well entertainment wise not quality but yeah it was a great fine. I think overall you you know walking away from it we will we love and hope it does continue buffet. If if she wins this fight against Jake a thing that could potentially be the end of it. Because it doesn't I don't know if there's many other narratives will always have faith that want to do whereas if jake wins he will probably go on to face. KFI Okay well you say perfectly looking forward to the rest of the flight week events and if you do want to tune in and watch the three big world title fights on the card as well early hours of Friday morning set your alarms two am squash books main event. Hopefully you can join us. Then we're going to continue to not tall. Paul turns out here all I didn't need hand. How come Andy? Scott is in Miami sunning himself supposedly working and we're hearing all Salihi now is the last bit was for you. I think is now gonNa ask you your opinions on this love or oh hated as we said there's definitely an appetite for ut. Boxing G think is here to stay other low. Come on give us all safe. Because the just the Fella there just said it give wins might be the end of it. I don't think progressive doing it. The Freddie Flintoff the boxer and my issue is how easy it is to get a professional license. That's the worry for me. 'cause it has danger because long's it before the stop fighting each other and generally believe because if you've got if you've got people like you really talk amateur or you like people telling you the best of the best you just added thinking well people can't be wrong. I must be the best. So they got millions of people. Saying you're God you're the best you're the best. You really the best fight of the night. Where does it end thus my worry that they ended up that they will fight a genuine professional fighter? And that's where someone's going to get hurt then do on their own youtube uh-huh prolonged skype. TV Pay per view is a market for it or why we knew exploit ask US business but the fact that they can get professional licenses just by being mm physically fit is my only issue do it. Good luck to them. It's a great experience. Get in the ring in a bucket. This was some people it'd be. What is white collar shows like three times a week on the country in the world? But when when you when you when they get fresh license just by just by being physically healthy there's a problem that's my only issue. It's not just the fact that the that it has professional boehner and you can only. Yeah I've never really fall a lot to agree with what you're saying because you know they get into professional license in the not professional boxes a apart from not sort of offering huffing case. Great really supposed to do and they. They've created the the publicity they've created the con of Youtube Youtube market and for them to two of the following of goal and to be able to fly for for the morning the flight. Four and everything. I mean people out Myself Kennedy Dream and do we not. That's what we want to do. That's what we want to create and so they've got a look to unveil on their on the card. Yeah Difficult painful via the same before offering when Kfi for the lowest legal they filled out the staple center now now for me to follow the staple center pack Staple Center off they did it was very different. I think are just said. This is a very different demographic to say to you or a normal that we would be out for a normal boxing. Show that we do. It was a very different democrat. The whole atmosphere is very different throughout the night until healthy Youtube star is a strange one. Is Your bill known the car to be honest if it was difficult difficult Paolino film because that is opening up this ball to a different generation and a different community. I'm Gosh I in the seventy state is sports are in standard. I don't know whether it brings in a new audience though to be fair because they follow them if they if next week they stopped on sport the wheel bottle racing. They'RE GONNA follow. It sounds good because I'm sure and residents as if he locked but I think that's that's there's there's legs in it like that but the fact they want to do it. Good look look I think McCallum saw feel the same way in probably also that if you want to do awesome. It's a fantastic experience to do it but to get in the license. I worry about the dangers. If these are crossing over to fight in real professional fighters being trained and like Kalomo myself from young youngsters to Maine and then then you'll see the difference. It might be boring when the same quality when you when when you've got respectful to to the profession though I I was going to get hurt. And then there's a stain on the spot. That's how I feel about. I don't care about the disrespect us. Burden Gordon Parsons can be one of the businesses. There have been so but the heard not roof at bathrooms bald point and of course we Andre Defenses. W Belt against Dublin's Luke Keillor. What do you think is the chance to think? I don't don't think so. I think he's had just a massive terror on allows of two years of his career. I remember when he for the first time and he was the end the dog he he was meant to get beat. No To be honest and I I was there. I worked at night and I thought he was going to have well beat and he didn't Balk so well returnee box even better and and then recently any boxer will classified ad in a real good job. I just think this is where the love the bottom of the magic. You gotTA call. You should be no one. Anita will tell and he's not only their preserved the right to be there not enough to lucky because he's pretty oh no marketable so many followers or whatever it is just a pure work determination and take his chances in the risks here and that's that's the magic of the sport. He's gone from nowhere to somewhere from. Shehab Bob Look how tough test is catering is again you go offense drily to to win the fight in twelve You when you say as he got a chance I mean he has a chance because he's a you know So if two people servings almost always got a chance almost onus but yeah I mean the chances are we know who's GonNa win but you can never say never. That's the farmer takes on. Joe Joe Dias. What are we thinking about this on? I think it's a good. It's a good test but I I'd like like family. I I do think I I. I'm not sure what you as I just don't think yes the mental toughness to just get over the line. I think family might do a good job loss to Gary Russell. Junior isn't he was very very good when he fights he caused. Listen impassable never ever seen the So much common seven farmers overseas very far and he's a talent is name we'll arguably the fives the night is Daniel run against the Young and aggressive Akmadov from the Pakistan looking forward to that one again that'll tell you every step armature again a lot of these Asian in countries and Eastern European countries that just Russell quick and nobody at seven maybe eight fighting against some of the Roman news the wealth of experience in this a situation edge with the safest bet I do. I think romantic sue. Nowhere near shot. Warhol Neuheisel maybe forty fives either. Pretty good meal. I think I think might be too soon right. Let's move on apart from promoting is bumper..
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Does your wife even like you in the morning. Like how much sleep do you get on an average day? That's not bring up the white okay not to that right. We do have a lot to get into today down here in Miami for the design show headlined by Dimitrius ANDROID. I want to talk about Android for Sergio. He's on his fourth fight of this zone deal. He has a title recognized title around his waist. He's got a big checkbook behind him but he can't get a significant fight. He's fighting Luquillo this weekend. Luquillo earned the shot by beating Louis areas. That was a good win for him. But Andrew is gonNA come into this as massive favourite. Why why can't Dimitrius Android? Get a big fight. He has a self balkars. I mean he He's too good for his own. Good he has that Olympic pedigree and he's tall. He's dark and handsome like he says he does all the right things. He fights at a distance. He doesn't he doesn't he. Doesn't fight out character He's hard to hit. He hits hard enough to get respect. He has that cursed at every southpaw. Had if you look at guys like Winky Wright Paul Williams even go back to Marvin Hagler. There avoided for reason. What are they all? Have in common their cells gear. More Reagan Down South Pole Olympic pedigree. So it's just that South Parker said that if you can avoid a southpaw especially one. That fights like a southpaw and and maintain that discipline. Just avoid them at all costs. And that's exactly why they're avoiding injury. Yeah but I get all that and I get the fighters like say boots. Ennis won a couple of weeks ago on showtime I get why he's avoided at this point doesn't bring a lot of reward to the risk Virgil Ortiz. And other guy doesn't bring a lot of reward to the risk. All the things you're talking about are true but don't they go out the window when you have a reward at the end of it like you fight to meet your his android and you're gonNA get a chance to fight for a middleweight title and you're GonNa get paid a whole lot of money you know. Millions of dollars doesn't all that stuff become inconsequential when you have the opportunity to make a ton of money and fight for a title money changes things if you're at the if you're at the end of your career or if you're not used to making that kind of money but android is making a life changing money. You know what I'm talking about Andrew. I'm talking about the guys that won't fight like the guys that won't fight android while they're making huge money. They're they're making big money and they need to extend their career as long as possible so they already have their contracts if they can avoid the meteors Andrew matter. Let's go to the office. Forget I get. Why can upload US invite him? Canelo has other business this year and Andrey doesn't really do a lot for Cannella. He's GonNa make significant money anyway. Regardless of what happens Lofton we all know the score gluskin needs to get the Cannella when Dmitry Sandra represents an extremely tough fight before that the guy that I'm I don't understand it all is dramatic. I do not get. What Jamaal Charles? Oh is is doing right now. Because last year he fought two fights against Brandon Adams and Denis Hogan that basically nobody watched like it's the equivalent. Nobody wants them with the ratings that he got he has no obvious. Fight coming up with you know. Maybe Chris eubank in a fight that I don't think anybody outside the Charleston Eubank family cares about and then maybe he can get Darvin. Janko down the line. Why doesn't Jamaal Charles jump at the chance to fight to meet your his android for the same exact reason but this one has politics behind it with the with the promotional side with PBC and disown? But they need to fight those who need to fight. They're made for each other because Charles not a superstar either. He's not making that superstar Lofton Cannella money. He's not neither is android so I think they need each other and they're they're the right style matchup also because Charles. He fights southpaws pretty well. And he has a hard enough punch week and ended with or you can get the respect with one punch because you're gonNA need power to actually beat a guy like android and Charles has. That has that lettuces and he has a speed and he has a chip on his shoulder to. He brings all that to the total. So I I the step up with you. So you think Charles Ducking Android yes duck android. Android is the Boogeyman of the one. Sixty pound division. The only way Andrew's going to get a big fight as if he moves to sixty eight. Okay well I don't want to fight. Daniel Jacobs friend. But they're gonNA THEY'RE GONNA. I'm just GONNA boy them at all. I'm at this point. I'm ordering Charro versus Andrey t-shirts there's just like. There's no reason for those two guys not to fight you because android. If you win this fight against Keeler and it's not Charlotte it's probably be somebody like Liam Williams in a WHO cares type of fight? There Charles Fights Chris the other guy. That's annoying me is Durban Chanko. Dermot check goes out there. You talk to Bella. He's looking for an opponent for Durban. Janko nobody will fight urban checkable the android sitting there by Janko. He can have a shot at my title in three million bucks as well like. I hate seeing fighters like duck. Because I think there's always reasons not to fight but not fighting's meters. Andrew at this point is flat out ducking avoiding him at all costs. Is there another word for DUCKIE EUPHEMISM FOR DUCKING? Is there something else for missiles? Probably the wrong word. Is there something else other than because duckings really harsh word is a hardware? We're quitting is harsh words. A harsh word to retire. So what's another word for? I don't want to have a softer word. I asked you if Charles was ducking injured. You said yes. No another word not ducking whatever that other word is. That's what it is we can. We can rebound the tape you said. Yes that avoiding avoiding. I don't think I've done. I asked if he was ducking convincing. That's just like word but whatever it is. We want to avoid softballs at all costs. All right that's it well. We don't WANNA FIGHT THEM. Especially we fight like southpaws Abdo amateur pedigree. They're dangerous and they're confident you don't you stay away as long as possible. Look Cannella did with with With the latter he didn't he didn't fight him. He pushed him aside for as long as possible until the public demanded it. And then when the public demanded what Laura do you almost beat them in. Some people thought that he did reinventing history that I don't. The public was demanding. Lara CANOAS ONE. That said let Lars viewed at the top guy at one fifty four. I WANNA fight of golden boy. Didn't want to fight Komo's pushing against that heart like it didn't bring a lot to the table so I think I think may because the public was saying what can I wasn't up. The the the the hardcore purist boxing purists the people in the game they were bringing that up with Andrea no he's being avoided even by the writers. If you're the only one that sticks up for Andrew Tell the truth I really am only one beating the drum for this ridiculous miles away. But I don't I'm not a senior writer at duct android. You I you duck absolutely and I'll duck him. I don't circumvent and I ducked purposely absolutely duct Tantri. That's true one of the problems with putting android pound for pound is because he doesn't have a depth of top opponents of beets. I mean there are a lot of people out there and I've talked to Shawn Porter about this. I've talked to Terence Crawford about this. I've talked to Bowman Turns Crawford's trainer about this all these guys put android at or near the of the pound for pound list. But it's hard to put him there because you haven't been any on the list. I agree no. You can't be on the list unless you beat someone on the list in order to beat them in and look with all due respect. I'm praising Dimitrios Android just like everyone you just mentioned when you're fighting guys like Walter Contin Dong-kwan Archer and these type of fighters and magic celebrity. He's just beating the people they put in front of them right. But that's not enough so you need someone with a resume. Someone with a background someone. That's like Oh wow okay. That's what he does against this guy. That's when you actually a turn heads. Everyone's has even the haters. I'll legitimate criticism though of android that he doesn't go for knockouts enough. I mean I thought against Dhakhwa. He went for the knockout. Just wasn't there. The guy just kept like rising from the canvas four times and that fight but if you look at the celebrity fight that was tough because he had so lucky hurt in the first round. And then you heard. His father is trainer in the corner between the first and second rousing. That's not our fight like that. You were sitting there with that. I I love hearing that. Love is love hearing that because when you out of character which he was doing going for the knockout. That's when you get knocked out and then guess what your record becomes blemish. Lose your title all because you wanted to chase something. That's not you don't do that. Man Get the win. Get your head out of your ASS. Get the win. Let's move on. What are you talking about like you get? You can get a win. But when does winning by decision move the needle at all? When does beating did beating macek select for android? Do Anything for his career. In fact I think he lost momentum because of that he had this guy hurt in the first round that I couldn't see left hands coming. He was buckled up in the second round with the same attitude maybe get a stoppage and then you have some momentum to get a canal oh fight or or Charles download you are a critic and I respect your opinion. I am a boxer respect mine. He's pitching shutouts. You know how difficult it is to win every single round thirty six minutes of a fight and he does it in. He pitched shutouts. He doesn't let you hit him and he almost gets you out. He knocks down opponents. He knocked down contract. We knocked down so lucky. He can't take them out not that he doesn't have power just not in his character. I've problem was. He didn't try after that first round. He like maybe like if you go for it in the second round and selected a couple of shots all right back up and fight more of a defensive takes one shot it takes one shot and the next thing you know trying to please. Chris Mannix just ruined. His career gets a blemish on his career. Is Not me by trying to please you? Okay it's not me. He didn't get a big fight. He fought that fight June and fought nobody else. The rest of the year was not even mentioned in the conversation with Cannella work does not have Charlotte so clearly. It's not just me saying that really didn't do much for him he knocks him out. I think that does a lot for him. He knocks Luke keillor out. Would you admit that knocking Lou? Keillor does not more. I think he's going to stop. Okay would you like if he beats Luke Keillor twelve round decision? You're going to be like good job like if he goes one. Twenty-one wave it's a shootout yes this is no he's GonNa stop he needs to stop keillor. I agree with you. He's going to have to stop a fighter like Luquillo one because he has been stopped before and he's been stopped by who thom durant or something like that. Yeah so he's been stopped before one and two. He's not on his level. So this is. Let's get it clear. It's a stay busy fight for Dimitrios android. They throw a bone. This is a stay busy. Fight strictly for that and he needs to get that impressive win so yes for this one. He needs a knockout needs. He signed a four or five extension match them. Those need to be big final coming up and that Charles should be front and Center for both those guys all right. Let me talk to you about Conor McGregor and the box out there now chasing Conor McGregor McGregor you know came back and UFC. Two forty six one in spectacular style reestablished himself as a top. Ufc Guy and in the immediate aftermath. You had floyd mayweather on social media teasing a rematch against Conor McGregor for weeks before you had manny Pacquiao and his representative saying I wanNA fight Conor McGregor. You have bud Crawford and top rank saying we'll fight. Conor McGregor in boxing will move over to the to the UFC and a UFC match against Crawford. What do you make of all these huge boxing stars fighting are looking to fight? Ufc's biggest star. They're chasing the money. They're chasing the easy money because beating Conor McGregor in.
"luke keillor" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"And He's already fought spends and spends not available anyway. So porter would be available. It would seem to fight Crawford now. It's not as big a fight as if he fought spence bench because spence is undefeated and he beat porter. But it's it's a bigger fight for for Crawford than he has available to him on the top rank side so if that's the the fight they wind up making somehow porter and Crawford. It's a big fight for Crawford based on who he's been fighting's recently much more snow right. I agree I agree with that but do you think that I mean look at some point. You know al.. They've got to make sure these guys are if they're paying big salaries salaries. They've got to make sure that they're fighting in big fights but it seems like everything we've seen from the BBC size that they've tried to basically ostracize. Terence Crawford. Do you think that had. PBC would offer up Shawn Porter in a fight that he very easily could lose. Well I if porter doesn't have any options like I said on the other side of the street because because he's already fought. Those guys and pack is not available. He might allow him to do that if if porter says. Hey this is the guy I wanNA fight. I think I can beat him and if I go and beat him it changes my whole. Oh career while. I'm still on my physical prime. I think he might allow him to do that of Puerto really pushes for it and and The one fight that I would see on the top rank excited I could see happening. Is Crawford Against Jose. Ramirez Ramirez wants the fight. He's obviously at one hundred forty pounds right now but he's GonNa make his mandatory mandatory defense against Victor Postal in early February in China. And if he wins that fight I could see him moving up to welterweight after that because he's unified titles at Junior Welterweight and I guess you know. Theoretically he could fight Josh Taylor for full unification but if he doesn't do that and offered a lot of money to move up and fight tarrant Crawford. I think he would jump. Jump at the opportunity and it wouldn't be a situation where you have a small junior welterweight going up to fight a big welterweight. He's actually two inches taller than Crawford and You know so I don Crawford and have a big height or reach advantage over him and Crawford is considered a small welterweight so I don't think that he could beat Crawford but I think it's a fight the top rank could sell if they can't get someone on the BBC side to fight him. Yeah well I I like that fight too I. I did think that they might try to roll the dice and try to make Ramirez Mirror versus Taylor and then you could have undisputed at one forty versus undisputed at one forty at one forty seven You could certainly sell that a little bit harder. If you've made that fight happened but beggars can't be choosers at this point. I mean you've gotTa make you gotTa make big fights with this guy of all four porter. I I would think I if I had to guess I'd say Puerto would want at least one fight posts spence before he jumped in the ring with with a Terence Crawford but only pushes a potential fight there to maybe the summertime but they gotta get creative for sure. You're like to to keep this guy happy. I spent some time with them earlier this week. It's you know it's clear he kind of chomping at the bit for for these big fights and the other thing too. Is You know crops. Thirty two years old at some point. You WanNa get these fights in before he. It's like thirty three thirty four thirty five and you start to wonder that whole great. What if what would have happened? If we'd seen that those big fights back then you you mentioned arrows pence there and what we know about him. You're right we don't know anything. And that's pretty bizarre. Isn't it keeps like Nick Fox and PBC have all these platforms to put aerospace on just to get them out there and we haven't even seen a picture we've seen nothing malarial spence we saw. The mugshot wasn't pretty. You know I mean I again. I can't emphasize anything healthy. Yeah I'm I'm sorry. Good Chris I was gonNA say like is. How surprising is that to you that we haven't seen anything like he hasn't made an appearance on inside? PBC or done an interview with with somebody over at Fox. I mean they've got plenty of opportunity to put them out there and they just haven't done it yet. Well you know this is just pure speculation on my part you know part if it might be that. He's just self conscious about the way that his face looks now and he doesn't want each just not comfortable doing that yet. He will be in the future but he's just not he just doesn't want to do it quite yet. I don't know that for sure but that could be part of it I you know it's very possible that there's more to it than we know but I just don't think you know I just don't think it's that you're doing this but I just don't think it's fair or responsible for for any of us in the media to speculate because we don't know you know so I mean hopefully. He's he's recovering well and he'll come back to the form that he had you know before the accident and you'll just have to be patient and the way to find out but obviously they do have a lot of platforms KRISTA. Put Him on. I just think there's gotta be some reason why they're not sending him out to kind of show the public that he's okay I I don't know what that reason is honestly but But there's gotta be some reason for it. Yeah and and look. He's right that whenever he comes back. It'll be on a rather low level so we might not see errol suspense what you might see him. Back in the ring and twenty twenty maybe not in a big fight until end of the year or even twenty twenty one at the potentially it is so we All certainly hope for the best for Farrell Spence there One thing I wanna hit on with you you were ringside for Jamaal Charles win over Dennis Hogan knocked him out terrific performance By Charles but once again here we are Keith. With you know what do we do with Jamaal Charles. And what do we do with Dimitrios android. But you've got two guys that can't draw audience against the numbers for Charlie on showtime two hundred fifty thousand viewers. That's after he did. What around? Like four hundred seventy five or something in his last fight against Brandon Adams. I mean what what are we. What is what can be done here with Charles? And he's terrific fighter and an excellent incredible talent but they've got to make a big big fight from same thing with Eddie hearn. He's gotTa make a big fight for Dimitrius android. What has to happen for these two guys to recognize that they have to fight each other? I don't know Chris but Ah Feel at Chris it feels like every every five or six months. We're having this conversation. Well maybe a little short amount of time with android because he's been a little more active but we're having this conversation every five or six months about Jamaal Charles and it just like he has to fight someone already because what I think will happen for him I. I'd love to see him. Fight Fight Andrey it'd be a partial unification fight. Both guys are unbeaten. But both you know top level middleweights. I'd like to see that fight. What I think is more likely to happen for Jamaal? Charles are low as he's even Chris. eubank didn't obviously didn't score definitive victory over Matt core above on Saturday because core Bob got hurt in the second round He did win. Win The fight I could see you bank fighting Charlie next I also the the one the fight. That's more interesting to me than you bank in Charlotte. Because I think Charlwood beat you. Bank is Charles and Dharavi and Chanko and it was obviously no accident on Saturday. They were interviewing Sergei Driving Chanko at ringside and asking him about L.. Potentially Fighting Jamaal Charles. Oh Now al Hayman would have to convince Charles to fight him because while he almost beat glove gin and some people think that he did beat Gloveman. He's not gullion. So you're gonNA fight a really tough guy who could beat you but it's not the high profile fight in which you would make a lot of money like you would for fighting glove can because if you Charlie had mentioned a couple of times last week we spoke to him before and after the fight he would prefer to fight glove. CAN IF WE'RE GONNA fight glove can end Canelo Canelo. He would prefer to fight. Galore can I because glove gains older. And he's you know seem somewhat diminished and might be easier to pick off than canal. Well well he would be easier to pick off than Cannella at this point and I don't think that Charlwood beat Canelo so I think if he you know he would make a lot of money to the love and he would want that fight. I but Would he fight Dharavi in Chaco because Dharavi enchant goes. People don't think love can is going to fight him again though. Glove can should based on what happened in their first fight. It was in my opinion the fight of the year and it was very close and could have gone either way so we wanna see that again. But how does Al Hayman Convinced Charl to fight Dharavi and Chanko because you have to pay him a lot of money to do it because that's going to be a dogfight and it's going to be the hardest fight of trawlers career and you've got Durbin Chaco coming off making taking a five million dollar purse. He's GonNa want significant money for that believing that he sure he won that fight against Gadhafi. And I don't know how you do it. I mean I just feel like you know. Oh forget the networks I mean I. I saw a clip on boxing scene with android saying you know like Charlady over to zone. Who cares like fighter? Sean showtime like just have everybody get into a room and say. Where's the money for all this and let's do it because I can't speak for exact numbers on android but he he doesn't draw rating on his own? Like a needle mover on zone and we've seen back to back fights now at Charlotte where he is not a needle mover showtime. And if you're showtime and you try to put together a schedule for twenty twenty why do you want at this point. He's fighting a David. Chen Co which I would watch like that's a good fight or Dmitri's android. I mean it. Just it just doesn't it doesn't make any sense to keep pouring money into it. If the return is in very good absolutely Chris and you know android is fighting keillor in his next fight. I mean come on no I can't I can't keep going and I like to me. This and I don't know Jamal Jamal all that well but I like his attitude on how he fights and how how he goes goes out there and performs but like. I can't deal with this this constant stuff anymore. This is worse than than like Wilder Joshua because this is just dumb like there's money there to make make despite happen and both you guys need each other like the winner of android versus. Carlo takes a significant step forward and becomes in my opinion a real contender for aloft or canal. I think without them. They can't be a real contender with each other and with the win over one or the other they can be a real they can stand up and say I have. Let's call one and a half pieces of the middleweight title. I deserve the opportunity to fight one of you. Two guys yet and Chris. I'll I'll tell you you know fans are starting to send a message. I I don't know what the numbers are from his zone because they don't make the you might they don't make the numbers public there aren't Nielsen Ratings. And all that kind of stuff but what the message. That's being sent to Jamaal Charles. Oh is we don't want to buy fans as we don't want to continue seeing you fight twenty five to one underdogs. Because the ratings for the Brandon Adams fight were significantly higher than than for his fight against Denis Hogan out Denis Hogan you could argue is a better fighter than Brandon Adams but and that for it to be somewhat not fair. The fight was going the the big ten championship game was that night and it drew like thirteen and a half million people you know viewers or whatever so. I'm not saying they didn't have some competition. That might not have impacted it in some way. But look he he the telecasts. When he fought Brandon Adams peaked at four hundred? Thirty four thousand viewers. I believe it was this peaked at two seventy five so at some point people want to see Jamaal Charles Oh challenged. They don't want us to continue seeing him. Fight guys on this level Denis Hogan ahead of you you were there. I believe when he fought Hymie Mongia he pushed Mongia. Some people thought there Hogan won the fight. I'm not saying he didn't deserve another significant fight after that but he moving up from fifty four to sixty he was a huge underdog he only had seven knockouts and thirty one fights before he fought Charle and he got overwhelmed by a bigger stronger guy which was pretty predictable. Yeah Yeah it was. I mean I I think Charles Andrew it's actually pretty good clashes styles. Range androids Charles more of an aggressor android android kind of the counterpuncher. I think it's both meaningful and might be the more more entertaining fight that they put on in recent memory. So I mean. I'm sure we'll talk 'n Keith. And five months having the conversation. Let's see here that Luke Keillor android fight goals and we'll go from there you know. Oh God I'm Gonna I I can't I can't because you can't get out of that one man. Come on no before. Let's go keith. You reported earlier this week. That Danny Garcia back against I've read catch. Thanks this January. Twenty fifth on Showtime Showtime has talked about having a big year in twenty twenty. This you know certainly a low level fight red gach not. I don't think he's ranked by anybody really alias. He at this point and the one hundred forty seven power rankings. But he's it should be pretty easy night for Danny Garcia What do you think.
"luke keillor" Discussed on Big Brown Breakdown
"I don't know they just got pulled from the card for some reason was we hobby for tally <hes> and then you actually frank mir win. I now now big win <hes> then surrogate cureton verse map madryn. I didn't see this fight lies so the highlights matt apparently had an issue with his mouth piece piece <hes> aurora. I want to go with this guy. You know i think you've been matt tell you the mouthpieces the pieces and the reason why he lost you know the mouth pieces of is was the focus in a distraction from what was going on inside that cage <hes> when your mouth piece would you know when you worry about a mouthpiece in the middle of a street fight inside a steel cage question how bad matt wanted you know i have you ever had a mouthpiece made like last minute or whatever <hes> so. It's how much of the issue is that in your mouth south not that crazy. The last thing i'm worried about <hes> is the last thing i'm worried about. I used to use a bolt boil and bite that i used from fucking popoin some fights. It's the last thing i'm worried about men. I'm worried like my fucking head kicked off getting taken down or you know gassing out like my mouthpiece. I don't give a fuck his tough to see you know they made money. Yes some current events region sure do conor mcgregor made news because a personal attacks on a boxing champion liu keeler but on this article says and his two young sons so i looked at this supporter apparently going back and forth already just talking shit. Do you guys know what's going on here. Because originally i think they start talking shit because this luke keillor says is he. I think he started talking. Shit about connors antics right. It was like okay so he messes connor sad to see notorious m._a. Stoop so low the same to a friend of mine couple of years ago and still walk around acton acton the gangster. I'd be happy to put in his place. If he had the ball step in the ring again at apparently somehow they were a phone call what was arranged between between both of them and then they're going at it and it was to the point where luke actually gave his phone to his manager because he's got to uncomfortable and they were supposed to box teach other mario okay so luke. <hes> says he has agreed to fight after showing match on the phone but daffy will it would be cooks way for him to get irish people's respect back but respect in class something he has none of and something money can't buy luke tweeted. Put tweet it out. I'm up to number four in the w._b._a._l. You bill rankings and close to agreeing world to fight patties weekends. Thanks to peter taylor taylor box in m._t._a. Global giving me this far but i'm just getting started and and <hes> i will go all the way then connor at the torso may put rest in peace. Bobby mcgee set paul canavan having people that were murdered in ireland there that are connected to boxing gym into blank blank boys god bless them them and i can't find any tweets covered too so apparently that is talking to his sons him threatening his kids. I have no idea this is weird. That's weird yeah but you can't can't find any like tweets or anything and took it down. That's what they said yeah but the headline reads against irish boxing champion liu keeler and his two young sounds which i don't think it is. I don't know obviously over the weekend. Connor apologized for what he did on aerial show i didn't. I didn't see any of the interview on e._s._p._n. Yeah on was i used. I can't believe e._s._p._n. Eared anything aerial does yeah it was like i was throwing shade at him. I'm just you never see the guy on sportscenter and it was on a yeah. I was was like just a split screen interview but clearly just making the apology tour did anyway watch it. I'll watch it seems sincere real well. I'm all about if it's an apology jeans like he's like dude. Listen it. I before you gotta. Marie says if he would've went on like this man how old is kinda now twenty eight twenty eighty nine thirty one okay thirty getting up there but let's say he's twenty eight twenty if he goes listen man. I'm twenty eight two hundred.
"luke keillor" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Steps to combat dot com yo yo yo yo yo joe what everybody out during the universe i'm wondering last time we've seen kinda mcgregor into rain he he was gonna as well by the founders the c o the president the man of the money thing for money may work but i have to say hey luke healer. He's no. He's no floyd mayweather so this could be a possible fight. That connor could win. You already been in the ring with the best one of the best ever to do it so i'm pretty sure you picked up some things and a little killer i like. I like the way he came out of college gal at he had a big win. He <hes> he went to slush made a statement about connor and connor called him up like eight. I'll be talking instead online. I come see and this is how we got here. Empty global tweeted out about maybe a couple of hours ago and they said that despite maybe possibly happen so we'll talk about it with break down. What's going on so mike from what i was reading. This all started over the old man. The conor mcgregor punched in the face at a bar after the old man too o'connor to his face that is proper twelve whiskey was proper garbage. Did you say that or did they want to know. I didn't like it would did you hear hey geico conor proceeded to throw his strong arm his strong hand. He's left handed it through the fan straight straight as a straight lift at his his ass caught. The old man on the team credited. Oh man that fucking budget not as seat on ebay got over there and island but if you i did not flinch videoed emberley. Maybe you got a better copy than and i did but i couldn't see if the punch was hard like it just seems like he puts his hand. You know like he just puts his <unk> over. The guy was about eight years ago. Yeah yeah yeah but what i'm saying just looks like he puts his hand on his cheek. Don't really look like he's. They picked people out there icing ogle from bliss. You set for sure that's that's why i'm like. Was that even real also. He thinks it's not i mean i know everybody thinks he punched want some all over his whiskey is whiskey definitely getting some legs but if you look at the footage don't even look like the do move the only like the punch at any he force but conor mcgregor has reportedly agreed to take on irish rival luke keillor in in a boxing match after a furious row over his alleged assault on an elderly man in a dublin pub footage emerged last week from an an incident in april which appeared to show mcgregor strike a man in a row over whatever that means. I guess some irish stuff in a row over him rejecting a drink of his whisky w._b. European middleweight champion keillor slammed. I am the u._f._c. star on twitter and declared. I'd be happy to put him in his place. If he had the balls the step into the ring again he now has revealed he received i angry phone call from mcgregor leading to him verbally agreeing to accept his offer of a fight now keillor taylor told the irish boxing dot com..
"luke keillor" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
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