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Season 2 Ep. 3 Naysayers & Trusting Your Gut

Owning Up

28:02 min | 2 months ago

Season 2 Ep. 3 Naysayers & Trusting Your Gut

"Hey guys, I'm flossie. And I'm Mone and you're listening to the owning of podcast the truth behind military spouse entrepreneurship. Hey friends, what's up? Welcome to the owning up Podcast the official podcast of the association of military spouse entrepreneurs also known as empty listen in every week as flaws and I share real life stories of military spouse entrepreneurs, you'll hear about successes the pitfalls and the Lessons Learned along the way plus important topics that are actually relevant to today's military spouse entrepreneur our hope is that every week we Empower you and give you the encouragement. You need to be the best military spouse entrepreneurship you can be Oh my gosh. I'm so excited to be back and to talk to you guys and to kind of chat with glossy today about today's Focus, which is may say your is interesting your gut and making a lot of time and I know for me especially being a military spouse and kind of going on a whim about things and everything. There are just times we're trusting your gut is the only thing you can do because everything is so uncertain life. So, I don't know what do you think about that think there's definitely times in business. Now, we're kind of seasoned entrepreneurs at this point that I haven't trusted my gut where I've lived back, you know hindsight's 20/20 and I'm like dang like I knew I had a bad feeling about that and I went for it anyway, and I'm like I should have trusted my gut. So now one of my biggest pieces of advice always trust your guide you have bad juju, if it feel icky. It's probably icky and I always believe that it's true and they think like for me to even like what you said, you do look back you're like, oh wow. Like I wish I could turn back and like reverse that you see the red flags everywhere you like I saw all the signs like did I ignore them off looks so good at the time like the opportunity looks so good and you were just like, oh I'll ignore that. It'll get better or whatever the case may be. But I I feel like they're also really great lessons at the same time. We're young, you know, even though maybe there was a mistake you come back and you're like dang I should have saw that coming. But wow, did I learn a really great lesson for you know the future of my business and I think even though like we make mistakes, I guess we can call him. Yeah, and you know what sometimes like every every mistake every failure is a lesson but I feel like those relationship ones are the hardest ones to learn where you've had a bad feeling about someone or you trusted someone with a piece of your business or you allowed them inside your circle and you kind of had a bad feeling and you didn't go with it and you're like no the Opera Did he seems okay. I'm going to go ahead and ignore that bad feeling in my gut I'm going to go with this partnership or this agreement or if this business deal anyway, and then you end up getting you know screwed over or something happens and then your life. I think those are the worst ones and those are the ones that always stick with me the most where you're like, why are people so bad? Sometimes I don't even think it starts out that way either sometimes in the beginning. It might not be back towards the end. Some relationships are just I should have known better this person, you know has had a bad reputation for doing this or you know, I've heard things like it's again like just trust your gut always wrong. Yeah, and I think like now that you're talking about it how hurtful that can be as a business owner and entrepreneur does that kind of cuts deep cuz like when you have a business and you see it grow back going through the Ebbs and flows and you're you know, living it day in and day out and it's like your passion and it's your purpose your life's work or whatever it is. I think like when that happens that can be really hurtful wage. I mean it can cut deep and bring you down and maybe discourage you like not to do it not to go on and also I think maybe it'll put up some barriers for your future relationships. So important to kind of how do you get over that? Like if you do get hurt in business, how do you get over it? I mean, I'm just I just just when you were talking about it, I was like, yeah when you're hurt when you get basically backstabbed or beautiful, you didn't go with your gut and your business. So it's hard like you have to you vet people and you're never going to know like it's always going to happen and home businesses. It's happened many times in all I can say is that you always get quotes from multiple people just to make sure that it seems legit. Even if it's your best friend or someone who's been referred by 30 people, You should still get multiple quotes from people when doing business contracts for everything. You should always have contract by very first attorneys who was my first mentor and advisor always said prepare for the birth. No matter what prepare for the divorce. And that was one of the best pieces of advice of ever had as an entrepreneur. So even when things are going hunky-dory you always have an agreement to fall back on so set yourself up for Success right when you're on good terms because then you know what to expect from each other and then if something does go sour you know, what the Fallout kind of is going to look like it's not going to use the pain cuz you're still have legal bath and stress. I think honestly the stress is the hardest part as many times as it's probably happened to me. The stress is the worst part and then like laying in bed and kicking yourselves and feeling like why did I let that person do that to me or why did I let that relationship happen or how did I get screwed over here? I think the stress is the hardest part. Yeah, and then I'll talk about like naysayers and I think the stress compiles on top of that. I don't even know if I use the right word, but it piles on top of that rate the naysayers when you have an idea as an entrepreneur you're trusting your gut to log. Really go for it and implement this strategy or start this new business venture or bring on another partner or partner with another organization. They're going to always be people out there who don't belong or don't see your vision, right? I always think like in the beginning when I first started my business six years ago when I started dog tags and heels, I literally was trying to go to other people and get them validated and for like, hey, this is what I'm going to do. Check out my site. Well X Y and Z like I'm so excited and their enthusiasm or belief wasn't as much as mine and I think they didn't understand entrepreneurship and they had negative things to say or even, you know people in your space cuz sometimes you surround yourself with their naysayers, they might not believe and think that there's a need for what you're creating or your vision and you know, what do we do with those I you know when you're breaking those feelings when you're inspiring people when you're pushing boundaries. And disrupting the space. I think they're always going to be naysayers and they're always going to be negative. They're always going to try to bring you down. And I think that's one thing that as an entrepreneur you have to develop kind of a tough skin from like wage because that will lead you to not trust your gut if people are saying things and you sit back and say oh, you know what they're right there like something like that. Let me just not do it anything wage that you're really take away from like what your life's work could be or walking in your gift or serving people. Well a couple of things from what you just said is don't take or look for a box turtle validation to feel good. You should look for external validation from mentors and advisors on the structure and business plan and things like that. But if you're excited, which you're going to be you're going to be so excited about your business plan, but then if you're looking for other people to be as excited people are going to support you like your spouse is probably going to support you, but some don't how many spouses have we heard Ed? Just in this empty Journey we're over and over where they're like my spouse told me. What are you doing? And when are you getting a real job? And even my husband listen to this? My bed asked me the other day because I'm taking some classes that I'm looking at the future. I'd like to teach entrepreneurship at some point on an official scale. She's retiring in two years. I'm just looking ahead. I'm preparing us for retirement for a move and he said like one day when you get a real job and he literally like caught himself and you should have seen his face because I don't mean like a job or like a real like that was like I make good money. I've made millions of dollars in Revenue. Yeah, a mindset of Entrepreneurship isn't a job even for to hear that his face. He turned white. I mean to but it's just a mindset and I'm sure he caught himself like, oh he did and he was making up for it for he's making him sure. He's apologizing in so many different ways and she's my big dog. Quarter gloves and believes in everything I do and he's my number one fan and he's literally like for lack of better words The Wind Beneath My Wings, but he has that my name so just like everyone else a job is a job like you go clock in and you can have somebody else's business and do all the things that you're actually trying to do and have them do for you. Next big. That's crazy. Just quickly said I go do you forget about that check I get every from the company that I'm running that blah blah blah blah blah like I make money for like, what are your thoughts on? How about that is amazing that is such a cool story to share how ridiculous though, but how many spouses who were not even as have as much traction as I do that are just starting out that are looking at their spouse is going I want to start this thing and they get shot down before they even get a chance to get in left for me. I can just laugh it off like our yep. For me when I first started to it was you know, my husband's like well, what does that mean? And are you going to be making money and the money fluctuated sometimes would be high? Sometimes it would be low. It depends on how many clients you have a month and your relationship your spouse has to be so supportive because you see them everyday they see you everyday, they see your struggle and they have to be your biggest cheerleader is what I call it, you know, and they are not bad. I'm here. I'm making his breakfast lunch and dinner. I'm home schooling the kids are doing laundry. I'm cleaning the house. Like I'm sorry, but if I have to go clock in add an executive-level position for sixty seventy hours a week. Do you think I'm going to be doing all these things for you in our family? No sir. That is not going to happen in this life. I'm sorry, but I Am My Own Boss I get to do what I want when I want and I'm still bringing home some money. So I think we need to figure out how to change. Standards and say listen, you get to chase your dreams and this is me chasing my dreams and making it work around. Our family is needs and me feeling empowered to do what I want when I want but you can't do it by yourself. You need people to support you people eat May saying you you need to correct them to get them out like to also distance yourself. One of the things I did was I just distanced myself. I was like if you don't believe in what I'm doing, I'm not asking you to buy anything. I'm not asking you to hire me. It's just my lifestyle. If you don't like it, if you don't like I'm doing then you can leave and sometimes you have to separate yourself. Those type of people are always say like they're just negative and it's not even you it's them you are doing something that they wish they had in themselves, right? Or maybe if something so scary that for them to even imagine that they think by saying that they're protecting you or like encouraging you to do something else and that's just the wrong. Thing to do. So if you're a naysayer, you're listening to this and somebody has come to you with the wacky crazy idea or something. They want to implement and you said well, I don't think you have to take that back you need to go and just encourage that spouse to implement it or do it and just take a leap of faith on themselves and just be there for them, you know being a naysayer is not cool. So just don't do it and I remember in in my first company Healthy Mama people used to say like, what are you doing with this little like meal prepping them out of my house and I'm like, I'm going to be sick every store all around the country and like I was just making meals out of my home kitchen with like a couple of spouses that were friends and people thought I was nuts and I was like, no but I'm a big dreamer. Like I don't think small and people would go what they would just literally look at me and I was like, I'm gonna be in every grocery store going to be in every home and they're like sure and then within like a year and when I was cranking out thousands of years A week on a production line. There were like damn this girl's gotta do it. Keep your nice saying to yourself. What I'm going to do, you know, you just gotta prove them wrong. You just gotta keep going and just let your work speak for itself. And I mean that's that's all you can do as an entrepreneur is let the work speak for itself. So and I'm look what you did. You don't need external validation anywhere from what you've built with your PR agency work with some of the largest military clients in the country and some of them. I know you haven't even ever announced before where I was like you haven't put this under social work for one client for like six months. I was like anybody even know if you work with this high chair, like I know I'm just so busy doing all the all the things and I was like, okay, I I forced you to post one. That sounds like you need to tell people you work here and this is one of your clients and I was just but look at how far you came where you were like look look look I started a company I need and then you you were working with some of the biggest clients and your phone number. Even need to tell anybody because I know I'm amazing and I mean, you know, it is what it is. Sometimes when you're just doing the work number one. You don't have the bandwidth to like you said like get validation because in the beginning it was like oh, what are you doing? Why are you doing that? You know, and now now they see all of them see everybody sees the family sees my mom. Oh my gosh when I first started my business page, I don't think my mom was amazing. She was an amazing. She just was like, what? Is this entrepreneur? What like, what are you doing? And why would you do that when I just get a good family still doesn't know what that word means government job and go clock in for the man and clock out for men and get your two weeks of vacation and get a title and I'm like, you know, I make my own title, you know what I'm saying? Like create your own boss create your own company and build what you are good at doing so it doesn't even matter. So you have nay Sayers in your life. You just keep going you hear me you move forward you. Keep going your birth. Write it down. You do your affirmations affirmations is one of the biggest ways I've gotten through entrepreneurship cuz you can't like philosophy said you can't rely on other people for external validation. You can't wake up everyday life expect your husband to be like go get him paid work fourteen hours a day. I'm building a business. So cheerleading section hanging out at the corner of the bedroom. And so you killed yourself up and you gotta keep going stay laser-focused on what you're calling is and what you're supposed to be doing and who you're serving is the biggest biggest take away from their naysayers won't see the vision of who you're serving. So you may be starting a business. But if you're starting at for a particular reason you're going to be serving people who need that service or that product and whether it's five million people who use it or 50,000 people who use it. You're still serving somebody and I think that is one of the most important things in entrepreneurship and on those really home. Days, when you do get kicked down or you do have a failure or you have a really rough day it's going to be you it's going to be you and your why and why you started and why you did it picking yourself back up. You will have a friend or two or whoever that person is that you can confide in who will help talk you through it and talk you down. You cry it out and you can pick yourself back up, but you have to keep going cuz the Battle of Entrepreneurship is going you have to keep going every single day and just like Moni said you can't have a person there for you every day. It has to be used. So if you start this for long Journal validation, it's the wrong reasons. It has to be you and your Y and it's going to be you carrying you through all those hard log beautiful incredible crazy days and you know even walking about this, you know, when Adam was interviewed for the military spouse entrepreneur guide he talked about, you know, naysayers and trusting your gut and how seven times people don't believe in what you're doing. And if you stop in your tracks of creating the vision you have or working or implementing then you're not going to be serving and that whole demographic is not going to suck have what you had to offer. So I really love that piece. We're talking about Adam in the military spouse entrepreneur guide and partnership with stars and stripes. Plus they tell us a little bit about Adam. So Adam is one of our incredible military spouses. He is the chief strategy officer for instant hands those of you that don't know him you need to connect with him. He's out in Luke Air Force Base. So he's making wage over there with the spouses club and doing all kinds of incredible things. So he's dr. Adam teaches entrepreneurship but instant hands is an incredible app that you can download and I loved this program as soon as I saw it because it's a way to give back in a way to connect with the community. Hello listeners. We want to take a quick moment before we wrap up the show. To think our show sponsor USAA. Here's what USAA has to say about why they support AMC USAA. We understand that service comes with Samsung device and challenges. We are proud to support MC as we recognize entrepreneurship provides a pathway to address the very real issue of military spouses appointment. We wish you and your family the very best on your journey, and we hope this program plays a role in your success. Thanks for all you do USAA. We are off for military spouse entrepreneurs. Thanks again USAA for being our show sponsor and for believing in Military Spouse entrepreneurs now back to the rest of the show. My husband is active duty Air Force. My MBA is an entrepreneurship. And then my PhD is an organizational behavior and Leadership and I spent about fifteen years working in higher ed. It was a way to get a lot less student loans if you're working from different universities and in that process, the thing that happened for me was that I was set we were living in Kentucky when my spouse found out that he got into the air force. So just like many many spouses when we PCS to Arizona. I lost my job basically time was pre kovats. So you had to be on the ground in front of a classroom to be a full-time Professor that totally changed now, but at the time I had lost my job and the universities around the base would not hire me because they knew that I could PCS at any minute so they didn't want to go invest into the short-term Professor. They wanted someone who would be here long-term and I had started for businesses prior to coming to Arizona, but by Serendipity, I had a chance to see an advertisement for instant hands on base and when I called I connected with dead I'm in this wife and we had several early conversations and we had several people in common that we knew from the entrepreneurship world and it was the first business idea that I had heard from Professor standpoint. And from even a business standpoint that I thought this is Magic never see, you know, it's the Unicorn the diamond in the rough and it made so much sense for the military community and I love the transparency and the meaning you know behind with a company does and I thought this is my chance to make a mark in the military world and already we've seen it come true. So that's kind of my backstory to it. All the company itself is a tech platform. It connects neighbors with Neighbors in a fordable reliable assistance in their own home. We are always going to do what's right not what's the most profitable what's going to make us rich quick? We're not at that stage of life. We're going to leave a legacy reset. We had a trust with certain people first would lead to success and it really has so that's been the greatest challenges of those moments where you doubt yourself and think, you know, maybe long right and a lot of times it was not that it was dead. From a bad place. It was just coming from a comfortable place and we're pushing boundaries. We're pushing limits of what people could be doing. We're encouraging others. All of this is new. So there's not really a standard set for what an application like they could do really Global aspirations. And I love to have such support that we know at any point time every single one of our staff members is going to do from their heart WhatsApp. The rest of it is icing on the cake. We're in a really turbulent time right now this year. I'm honored to be the vice president for our Luke spouses club and my mom was in that role thirty years ago, you know thirty-five years ago. Some things have never changed a lot of naysayers in that spouse Club. There's a lot of people that say, oh, it's just a club you buy into and there's a lot of Separation even within the Armed Forces, you know, it becomes a question posted versus officer and naysayers just want validation and people want to be heard two people who say like, oh this is terrible idea. It's already been done or you know, the negativity. Honestly, I've learned to have that thick skin. I think a lot of people in the armed forces develop a very thick-skinned wage. Have to learn to just hear it and let that person know I hear you you peace part that what they're really meaning when they say that and very rarely is it malicious that usually comes from a place of uncertainty or fear when you let go of that hate or fear and you actually just try to hear somebody instead of a tip for tap back-and-forth argument on Facebook. It becomes an understanding and if there's an understanding I think you can see over time and consistency. We thought we live by our words and those are the things that survived the test of time and it really saves us when I just hear the advice and I hear even bad advice. I just take what I need from it and grow by and far I've had two moments with instant hands that I never expected that will keep me going for months on end there the moment all business owners need to look for and it's the moments when you realize why you're truly wage business the answer will never be money all of my studies and all of the books that answer will never be money. It will be the moment when you're working with a customer that you truly feel like you served that customer whatever that job. Just you for us. It was serving a veteran who just needed help with a couple small things at home. It was reaching out to a veteran who just needed a specific phone number and making that next step pause. Those are the moments that will inspire you day in and day out when it gets rough find those moments and then just cherish them celebrate them as a team and keep moving forward. Keep moving forward. So you can sign up for instant hands if you need help so think about an elderly person at home or a military spouse who may be home with kids during a deployment and you need your own bushes trimmed or your yard mowed or you need your groceries purchased you can sign up for instant hands and you can find a local military person whether that's a spouse or a teenager or an active duty service on the weekends who will come over and do those things for you. So it's a trusted Community member that will come help take care of things that you need. So it's literally like a helping hand which is so amazing. So think about how many times Thursday on a weekly basis on my community paid I need somebody to mow my lawn can somebody, you know run and grab I have a baby sleeping right now. Can somebody run up to the mini exchange and grab me? Like I can't a bell peppers or a canopy or whatever incident hands is this incredible new app to facilitate that and I love what they do. I love who Adam is as a person. He's amazing right you him we need Literally we need 20 of him. Adam is the most I mean, we just met him. I feel like we just met him three months ago, but I feel like we've known him for a lifetime cuz he's just over 4000. He is not person. He's very embracing people leaves in the app so much like he's an advocate for it his heart as in it. He said he believes an entrepreneurship M Tere spices and supporting military spouses with like people walk Flyers to your house. If he is, he's that guy that was show up with a welcome basket be like how long you are welcomed and you will feel welcome here and one of the things I really love to that they mentioned it said so that app the way that described it. I thought it was so cute is Angie's List of meats next door meets Uber and I just love the way I love that ride that it's hyperlocal and it's focused on a niche it is it's really focused in one area and they're just expanding wage. So if you're interested in finding out more about it head over to instant hands and we'll make sure we'll put in the show notes. So you guys can check it out and he's a military spouse too. And he's just a really great person to add to your network. If you're looking to have positivity and encouragement and not an a say or in your space. He is definitely somebody you need to add in your network. Yeah. So feel free to check out his story in the military bow entrepreneurship guide featured with stars and stripes. You can catch the digital Edition online on am C. Or you can pick up a copy near you and you can change the base list they are cuz we had hundred thousand copies printed and distributed globally and I know that they're in the Luke Air Force Base area because Adam had them delivered right over to him and he checked them all around the area. So thanks to Adam so you can read his story along with twelve other military spouses who are breaking the mold and and making an impact you check out the digital Edition you can actually shop 500 military spouses who are doing great testimonies favorite Parts all of our favorite part where we have a digital business directory in the back. And if you want to be included, all you have to do is be an amp team member that's free or premium. You can just join am see and you'll be included in the next guide, you know, hint hint hint. So make sure you don't miss out and join us and we are just so excited about this season and sharing everything that we have going on. You guys make sure to tune in every week. We're going to be highlighting a different smell steps in the guide and talking about different issues and Military spouses face as an entrepreneur and we're going to give you advice and empowerment and we're just going to cheer you on every single day. So make sure you guys are over and join empty and become a member and join us on this journey, and if you have a topic you'd like to hear us to help out or you want to hear our opinions here at AMC because Moni and I have a log As opinions that's for sure especially on Military Spouse entrepreneurship shoot him over to us that hello at all. Right friends. We will see you guys next week by Well listeners, we have reached the end of our episode. We thank you so much for listening to owning up. It means a lot to us that you're here. We'd love for you to subscribe to our podcast with us a review. Remember you can find us online at which is where you'll find a ton of resources and information plus a summary of this episode include any links and web sites mentioned in the show. Our community is all about encouraging and empowering the military spouse entrepreneur quick reminder that all content provided in this podcast. 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RFT 434: The Vizcarra Clan

Ready For Takeoff - Turn Your Aviation Passion Into A Career

58:45 min | 2 months ago

RFT 434: The Vizcarra Clan

"This is the ready for take-off podcast episode four, Thirty Four. My Name is Georgia now and I'm joined today by Vic Mark and Mike Car. But first let me tell you about our sponsor. The hanff is novel series if you like aviation combat action spread by real events in Vietnam I know you're really going to enjoy the have fish novel series and you know you can get the first audio book in the series totally free if you sign up for an account with audible look on our show notes but right now fasten your seat belts and get ready for takeoff. I'm joined today by Vic Mark and Mike this Kara Mike and mark our. Children they're all three fighter pilots and it's such a pleasure to have all three of you with us today. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having us. You're welcome. So let's start with VIC. Tell us how you got your starting aviation plays. Well I was the. Youngest of and a family. And I came quite late into family. So my older. Oldest brother was fifteen years older than me. And he was a World War Two fighter pilot. He forty seven voice start off peak thirty, nine, thousand North Africa, and then transitioned to the P forty seven's. Sisley. Initially. So anyway, I was quite young when you went off to war what he's six years old. So my dad want to make sure I wouldn't forget him. biggie. Remain remembered him. So he was always constantly reminding us that you know you have another brother I said, well, worries. Always halfway around the world. What's he doing? He's the backpack bag. Guys will. How's he doing that? He flies an airplane man that was it the bug hit right then they're not that I want to be just like. And Fortunately, I was able to achieve my dream and twenty years later flying the Republic F. Rel fly and he'd been flying the Republic Wow that is really cool. Now when did you take your? First? Flight VIC. Okay. I got commission to the program and I had a pilot slot assign. So my junior year they provided a thirty hour flight program. At that time, you could get your license to thirty. Our says the minimum saw very fortunate. I was able to get my private licensed that program as a junior college. And So I got about one hundred, twenty hours of light plane flying that experience Thumb flying afterwards. And then Went through Spence primary flight training. T thirty seven off D thirty four got about thirty eat thirty four hours kind of program they used to weed out the guys that we're going to not be able to hack the program is GonNa say a weeding out program so thirty hours of de Thirty four and then one, hundred, twenty, dollars hundred, thirty, seven. It was also very in contracting those days. So our instructors indie school was run by a saloon school. Now that Spencer base. Multi Georgia. Graduated from there. Then I went to research force base for basic training t thirty three. In our very naive because I do my heart also be a flatter fodder. And reality finally hit me when. I'm in pants rainy and. At the. sixty day prior to graduation class fanning our twelfth in the class their only. Eight fighters. Proposed for our class now twelfth. So there I thought I'M NOT GONNA get my dream. Sure. Well. Very fortunate that when the final grade standard came out, I'd not move from twelve to a three way tie for fifth. which allowed me to pick. The. Second. F One hundred assignment out of six available. So I was very fortunate in that respect. Very cool. Where'd you go for a four hundred training? Luke Air Force Base six months for the basic training into one hundred. And then from there went to Nellis for four months for advanced if. At Nellis. You got air to air gunnery air refueling in touchable range, which he did not get in the previous six months so. So graduated from one hundred in April of sixty two and reported to my first operational Simon. Is a funny thing how fate is the hunter? A now that when we graduate. Schools. There were five a class graduating. And there are five different segments and not a single guy. One Guy Simon we all were able to choose what we want. I want to George Air Force Base because elderly two hours a week from WHO? So I. Picked Got George Air Force Base. I had one more fight left before graduation. Now's across country. So I go off and across country. I come back in when I land I look over on the other side of the fence separating spectators from the ramp is my wife not to myself. That's strange. She normally doesn't meet me. Let me things this. Scary. So I like a rock hunger cure in says, got bad news Mrs List. that. says. Our assignment has been changed from. Georgia for Space California to whom stead Florida? All the way across the country. So Radical fake one hundred really. So now you're in the three ninth, right Off At three nine. In. The three ninth got identified as a night all squadron. So we start doing most of are flying at night and it was a three phase program of first phase, you fly a night low level at one hundred feet. Single ship and go from city to see. So you could see our next waypoint all it up miles away. When she did net phase then you'd go into the more difficult phase where you would fly. What on foot low level at night single ship and the waypoint may be. A rural road intersection out in the Marsh. Marsh there. And then the third phase was now graduate and go to. the range and drop bombs. Well, what happened to me is on face to worm going you know a unlit the waypoints. and. This other. Fellow bullet in the three nine. Brief me says, Hey. I'll be over Orlando time you get fewer. Will giant join up at that time. So sure enough I get your Orlando and. He says I'm turning on my. Alliance bright see can see me I picked them up used all lit up from the city nights. Orlando will. Typically. Happen we start deviating from standards. When I, pick them up house on the outside of turn nighttime. I'm. Gung Ho Tiger. Invisible so I start joining up from the turn which was contrary to practice. This I'm joined up on him. He says, let me know when I go to Jim Steady on my lights because. An one, hundred, the light right behind the CAPI which shining the cockpit in was rate Boston. Trying to be a tiger, I sleep through him. Go ahead. You can go now. Well you went to dim all his lights were inoperative except for the one light behind the candidate. So I should have knocked it off at that time but nope, on the wild tiger join up from the outside coming in. Well everything was fine until I got the same level Assu. Olis', I got out he was now you lit up anymore by the city, lights. So I'm trying to line up on joined up on one light will next thing I know I have windshield full. Yanked back in the stick win over the top. Win, over the top of my phone a little rumble. The, Knicks we're here on the radio is. I think he just hit me. In my squad command are shrunk, commander happens to be flying also in he was. El Anyway you something else. So runaway gets all excited who who, who, so. You'll Chris. The guy yet. wiz causes Number to. Number. One in Celinda, Sculpture Mrs to join up on on one and see what the damage is if he didn't want to do. A Gilchrist and went to him I just hit Eggers. No, it's okay. I'm air this land near Princeton triple. The score covers don't join up on him. The last thing I wanted to do was joined up with a guy just. A Gilchrist. Didn't help the situation if he's on the. War. Rooms that I never did catch him. When we landed. The park right next to each other and I looked over this winter and it looks perfectly fine. So I figure I must have missed them. So is the Coochie matter I said did I hit him egos? Chick the antenna on his tail in the one hundred. A little six inch antenna on top of the rudder a detail. Is Bent Ninety degrees. Soon. Closer the amid without meeting reading the Mid. Lost, story short was. because. Of that. They said. We better, not have inexperienced young tenants in night all the. So he made a decision that yet to have eight hundred hours of racial time to be a night out. So they took all the lieutenants out three Oh nine in put us in a three, zero, seven, zero six. Well. Pretty soon here, the Snack Bar Austin, the three-month be some major. ERECK heavy right and they and they got pissed off. Hey. We we can't live with this guy get back to. The rank structured. So the word went out okay. Everybody's going back to their original slogging the three nights while meanwhile I've been putting Israel seven. So. Three seven score commander Mike meet. So he came up to me as a airbase going back to their seem original squardons. But if you look through seven I've not to stay make and make it happen. Man, that's all a pretty good deal. You know. So I ended up my tour at boosted its Yosemite. Nights originally and then throw seven. Where'd you go after homestead? That's when I trenches into the one five. So. went up to Nellis went through the. Short course. one of five thirty are course in from near win over to Japan is it is it could Japan Got Their New Year's Eve nine, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, three the very next day was the first day of nineteen, sixty four. So when I got there. Found out that. The, family over there by March fifteen or not. They could come over until May of that year because the wing was moving. Mizuki. Kyoto. So. I Hustle to get the family over. There in some episodes above that are kind of funny But anyway So I ended up at Yokota in one. Oh, five and flew all in one of five combat Outta a Coulda they would send us down to Southeast Asia two months at a time so I made three. Tours of two months of time nightmare in accumulated fifty nine missions over the north. Unfortunately took a hundred to get credit for mission right? And when my dear Oh Spec the states came up is a centimeter honor to finish up a sunny back to the states because see they didn't want me Downer, because with fifty nine I would have been done now would have finished up in two months. They want somebody who's GonNa be there with retain ability. Sure. Exactly. So tell also getting shot down. Well for about it is you're going to be disappointed. It wasn't that dramatic. I think you're being a master of understatement, but you'll had well the reason I say that is because I got shot down by. Brenton Whitney I had an engine failure. It wasn't a real shoot down all of the Air Force claim does the down but also on a To. Ship a iron and mission were looking for three new suspected Sam sites just above the DMZ. As we hit it for the first sight, it was under it was right on the coast. So is under a under undercast and you don't mind look for You don't WanNa go. Sami. Melissa see the ground because the best defense spotting the initial launch and then you can avoid them you. You cannot maneuver. So because of the UNA cast lead said Hey will circumnavigate around here go next one which was ron's furry round the coast got. There nothing. Headed inland towards the third one in the third one was about twenty miles inland. In again, very quiet, but as going in. the weasel. The back seater says, Oh pick a gun radar. Intermittent. So we hopped. Oh good. Maybe some action year. But Bell was the last call from them on that. So as we got to the third site is, let's go back out and see the original cleared out. Well, as star by turn I got the salacious compressor stall. Now the one hundred was prunes group versus bowls, and you thought nothing of them you win even invite him up is. Typical of narrative, you got hang a tax slow in the one hundred get Bristol Soya's common. Or the one hundred though one of five that engine if it can stall that meant there is something wrong. So I. Got The salacious compressor stall. Naively thought, it could save your plane ticket return to back the base. So I started hitting back and next thing I know Lisa's get your flaps half laps I didn't realize got net slow trying to meet out. So any evident Niaz putting out more through. The nose than I was up till he's I couldn't maintain airspeed or altitude. Let him know as A. maintainers Peter opted to. Leave the opening show In ballot is I was. Chasing also safety chase on a good buddy of mine. At bill over Korea. And I was always impressed that he had. The. com- calm enough. Now remember he's stately called a hooking up his land that. Later in the. Timer her get up opening shoot. And that really impressed me in our member that just. Jumping out of Vietnam there I called hooking up my just like he had. All because of now, what about your back seat or did he hook up his mind? You do know the single seat do okay a flying I. Miss the weasel ever the hundred hours the killer. I all the bombs. Okay all single. So. Where does allow? Just north. Vietnam. just south of the Ghia Pass on the North Vietnamese side. About twenty miles from the coast You know if you could make the coast and jump out over the water. Your. Bright. Almost one percent you're going to be recovered because we own the water, right? and. I had personally made the decision to myself. That was to be within twenty miles of the coast to try and make it to the coast to make make. Well, uh twenty miles in, but unfortunately I was pointed. That off the side of the coast. So so I didn't go for the Bear so say. just the self fast pass on knows Vietnam that is a really rough area. It it was at the at the time. Will Win win win out. It looked pretty secure to me. Retrospect what back later on years later and look the map and the next valley over north North and east of where I jumped out was a bad There's a major. Town there with an army barracks there. So That was bad. So how long were you on the ground? Two hours about two hours a I went down. Got Hung up on a tree when a when I when I. Jack. Ed. My ankle wedged between a fork in a in a branch. Hanging. INSECTS, I'm, hanging upside. down. In. So here I have to do A. Inverted. Sit Up right. With a fifteen pound pack on my back not so it took several attempts to finally be able to pull up in grab that. branch and pulled myself up. So when I gotta there. Now are so anxious to get off the ground the trees and sully say grew two hundred, three, hundred feet tall. They had put two hundred. Feet of Lanyard in your parachute that you take and you rig it through the risers flick honor you could really self the law yourself right with us. So tired down so bad plus attorney David only install it stuff only been trained in one time about six months per hour should I the correctly? So I wanted to get him so much that what I did is I took my helmet now released its try and get an idea how ion in an. disappeared. So I then getting permission. So, then I, very foolishly. Get the chance in I released myself. Was I surprised when I released myself King I dropped me about six feet, which means that we're now's hung up in the inverted position. Worried about three feet from the town. Where you were really lucky because I could have been a really really long fall. Exactly that's Jesse did it. A snap by this more subdued but I just you wouldn't believe how bad I want to get off the never. Did you hear any enemy action around you while you're on the ground? No but here's the frame part is so on ground. I'm talking to a lead up and then here's the other thing too is the survival radios. Their design was not the best when it was the the. mode switch to select thanks it was off you push forward the next one is. Talk. In. The next one is beeper, right? Well, well, it should have been. Down, for Talk Center, off up because here's what happened to me. With all the excitement, the drone pumping when I pushed. To Talk. I. Went Right through it and went to beeper. So now. To Talk to lead, he's talking to invoice not talkative with beats. Because you know every time I took the Mike Liden. But in darkened thick I'm talking. Right So, luckily, I, I really enjoyed the guys on line with the the weasel your guy was really good. So he finds this. Okay understanding pros with your radio is. Give me one beep. Is View are okay. So I went to go one beat. And I got a beep and a half. So, because back says. Understand you may have some injuries. You're injured Gimme two beeps. Not. So now he doesn't know who newbies I don't answer. So he starts all over again. We went on a bit so he finds says. Okays got rescuing away. Goff radio savior battery. and. Come back up in about fifteen minutes. So I did win off. So them sitting there in the bottom jungle and even though is very thick Austin or read looking around I realized that am concealed. I'm out in the open and now I start hearing. Branches break in and just drop in the. You'd be surprised how noise of the jungle is you just if just sitting there. Your wrenches of a broker off and then you'll be a bird. Then behind me burdens is. Very. Gets the bad guys. So that kind of startled me and I said eight I got seek some shelter. Or hiding place. So I remember coming down shoot that off to the north was some karst costas. Yeah Okay So I ended for the cars. And in any surprising when the Germans bumping surprising how you have tunnel vision. I finally, the cars numb looking at saying now wish I, could find a place to high in his icon bound in my vision expanded a see all these interest to the course. So ending their kid in there for a while and As an there in oil was. Is Like A. In. You could go straightforward or turn left turn right? Difficult Fire Pont turn left. You know and win air and Salaam sitting there waiting waiting and then that's the first time that. Attempt to realize what happened to me. So I'm there. And I start thinking about the family. My sons, they're old enough that have been rescued. They would've sold remember me very that they would have. But what re Bug music I had a daughter is ten months old and I thought to myself mandate that don't get recipes you'll never have known me. So I said a little prayer. And Number Levers by say Oh, this was just coincidence but I think it was more than. God answered my career because I know, sous finish send little prayer when I heard airplanes overhead again. Back out. Start talking and long story short. Was it the food? In the Jonker helicopter crew was just great I mean. They're they're already below Bingol, fuel. And and the command post on the shift or from the US Halsey adding their fuel state figure they're probably getting close to Bingo. And the ballot Answer he acted like. They have your too low and they did get the reception because now they were these guys were really motivated to get me out because it was their last day on cruise. I was GONNA be there They had eight previous rescues. All, over water so as there'd be there, I. Land rescue it got me out and the last attempted rescue they had was overland one successful when really they they had a guilt complex they were. So they were determined to get out and that's why they. And went way below Bingo to get the out. Wow. Now are you still in contact with those pilots? Yup I got. Wrong well, actually what happened was the NCO a sea of a rescue. Detachment follow me. On the Internet. Years and years I mean day kids later after the incident I get this email from this guy. Captain Biskra. Bray don't recall remember me but I was involved on your rescue. Fund your address fear I just wanted to say hello how you doing? Back, my wife said. How was he involved rescued missiles I. Don't know. He's asked him. So. I wrote back is eight. Thank you to contact the media says. How will you invoke my rescue in these allows the installation of the rescue. Is Awesome the bridge of the Tulsi when you got picked up and he says, and even though I wasn't directly involved, he says I was involved in back at the com- could tell the chopper was shirt for fuel in turnaround on a bridge to the captain of the ship and said, if you don't want to lose that helicopter, you gotta turn the ship around and go full speed back towards towards the chopper and. He says it is really Yeah. It's. So he got the capital turn around in steam forward and sure enough that chopper had been airborne two and a half hours in the normal capacity of it is two hours really here's so so. Good Lord looking for all of us are right. Now. So the the navy rescued you and you had to pay them back by. By signing. For Navy. So who's the oldest mark? Is that you? Yes. So tell us about your story. See well, six years old he got shot down. You. Can I tell tell the story is in my last movie and Television Summer I'm GonNa let 'em tells the story is he he tells them better easily tells them the movie so Tell them till till story because pretty. Is. As far back as I could remember on daily basis, I was five years old I think and we're in Yukota in base housing there, and I was upstairs playing. Foods and he comes running up because my mom obviously had visitors says, Hey, that's shot down and I'm like I'm not even sure what that means at that point. And then he gets me worried because he evokes worry. Fortunately by the time he actually by the time you knew and he told me I think my mom had already got word that he had been picked up yet. So we were never in any kind of like extremely dirt. stressful situation where like we don't have as we need we were told he but he's already rescued. You know he goes. It's so weird is you know what you think when you're you're five or six because I united dad what He'd go off to beat Phnom on these tours. The first thing he he came back with we were like hey. We go. Hey shutdown. Is, Ashley entered the same say now the they knew is airborne your two free to come up at. So work. When did you start flying? well, I went to college. I KINDA That I was. My uncle did it in war to de did NAM and I will ask. The question, my mind that I was going to do it to end in a really cemented the deal when on spring break actually outgrown are going to USC. The the real use of. California. Real you AC- or the game Diaz. When on spring break I went to visit mom and dad and I I. Get home. Hey. You seen on campus said now and so so we all went saw final count on your wear that mood rights great movie about Kirk Douglas Marci does. The carrier goes through storm another. Storm go back to go back in time. Sever six making forty, one summer seven and they actually she but it's a great move out. Loved it and when I watched, the scene sees of the two tomcats doing a dogfight with. Japanese Zeros I mean I just like I saw this airplane and I was just like Oh my God, you know the wing swept back. In addition such a cool air said, okay that's. Right then I, I made the goal is to fly that airplane in under V slide off the the U. S. S.. Nimitz and then you're later I was in her plane bichon limits in Wisconsin unequal. Wow that is the. Now Mike, you've you've followed your brother by a year. It wasn't a whole lot different e I would feel the only you didn't address the thing that really got us look. Was William Highschool, and he snuck in snuck us into the core a simulator. We're Catholics. Cayenne we're actually. And snuck us into the. Simulator, which you know by today's standards at singular was not the most you know the fidelity even had the screen is all night but we Try to tank and we did talk. I'd say from that point was it was kind of allow this is that really ears when they started college I him. I you guys vote throughout to see like I did and he got all that as far as we could Sir your were concerned you've been lower eighteen years. Where Zenit Mess said okay. Well, they saw go and take them to at simulator they both climb up. Same Quest. Okay Dad. How do we do now? Get blindside. You're going to have to do the hard way. So you listen. Mike in mark you both flu. F. fourteens and then F. eighteens right and in fact, Mike you got to fly the Super Hornet. Right I might objective my whole life was defy the Tomcat and be stationed at Miramar, which is the greatest base. San Diego in. Some of my friends who older actually achieved that were they. You'll you in the navy there's east and west coast so. WE WANT WANNA go west coast West stopgaps, which is that near Mar and if you if you played a car right, you could you could go via the fleet water for three years and then you you BCS but you really don't. You Change Unit that you're still we're mark right so we could be an rag instructor rt you instructor at it's not get what I did, and then you can go be go Beckley because they do a sea shore rotation a navy so that they don't earn out because if you spend your entire life at sea, you're not you're not gonNA stick around. Because you know living on the ship is. Like steel, frisky You're out there for six months. When we first started on our deployments, they were not unlike they were in the Vietnam days where you got snail mail envelopes that you might get once a month you letters would be out of sequence at some not to get a letter of it was it was strange you were like the plan for six months really. But over the course of my thirty years that I was in the navy, of course, they got email on the ship and and and things it was still was not great being of your family to six months or eight, my son or time cruise eight, nine months. But. At least you had some of the comforts of. You know, of course, buying your wife on the. I was commanding officer at flow in my room. I could actually call my wife anytime once I didn't I didn't use it because not everybody in the bad at that two-day but afford my my officers you know facilities, Earth Day or something eight come on in and talk to your wife from the carrier on the phone for half an hour or what have you. got. A lot better. But our objectives at least mine was to fly upward teams alongside could, and like I said I see guys retired twenty as fives and they'd never left Mir Miramar. Slide, it's not getting. That was my object. To that thirteen years and then they did a base realignment and Miramar got turned back over to the marine. Corps. So we now is that having a East or west coast honking these they're going to consolidate and Oceana was where we are gonNA have to be. So at that point, I'm at thirteen years I was about to to get out. And so. When add move at end whistle ironic is I had not moved I. had not really moved physically on the State House I lived in for years and years. But now that we Oceana I ended up moving every two to three years because from there I was on the naval fighter weapons school staff which had moved from Marwick down about it again another garden spots and US Navy and so went there In one but were you only do the work for years? You know. So all these things resulted in me moving every two three or but slander ACSI starting the command tour in Virginia Beach were the type it was and we had a force. You might mail was one of the first ones to transition from the Tomcat to the. So. It was as halfway through. We did our last deployment, which is a great point was post nine eleven we deployed on September nineteenth. Of Two thousand one and we we knew we were GONNA go Ryan. So we we got there. We had some just great missions and the crews got extended because of the situation. So we are out for like eight months. And Julia, we didn't see other than to to go and bomb the Afghanstan. We did see land for you including our sailors. Aristocracy, but they were so much be motivated. They be uploading bombs every day plaintiff comeback with the we'd go in the radio room, show him our our film Ila let them in on an and so I mean it was a really motivating crews didn't lose anybody. And come back and then we had a transition that was last not get what head winning because we we basically had move everybody to L'amour and other garden spot. Yeah. The more war and that's what we transition to the. Super. Hornet and where I thought. Okay. Well, this is where my career will end near twenty years at that might might be they. Said Hey. We're GONNA. We need to have your squire, the sprint newly converted F eighteen super corner you're going to go to Japan. Japan at at Sudi is the only four deployed unit, the carriers your Crusca at the time it was the Kittyhawk and the air wing itself is is about an hour away? It's it's soupy where we'd be instance indoor. and. So that's where that's where I finished. My mentor was Super Hornet Suji and. Then again, move back the state so that that was kind of the end of my flying days at Florencio. I was a coo of an installation where we had twelve hundred rubles, but those were not to say him so I didn't get it. I was in Okinawa and. We resided on Kadena Air Force babies. But there was a navy operational side and they gave us our house. So I. Definitely does remain abors and I got a couple of flights. You know just for fun with them and actually flown the at the team a couple times before that in the naval power local school we when we do the graduation one be wants light you bring guests from other bases and they typically get Hornet ride and fifteen. So I had actually a few flights net fifty from from those. Flight and every every aircraft a six. So I gotta play six s three. The offered meaty to a couple of Times I. See Too many crash and burn. Staving off the aircraft carrier in the two. So. More tell us about your films. Okay. Well. When I was growing up, I used to talk Dad's eight millimeter camera rain screenplays when I was in middle school and and I just had a big passion for, I. Love Going to movies actually that's one thing that I do recall live with each time Dan was Vietnam. We mikey in our crew we would always go to the Bay Cedar you. Watch. You go for free five cents and so we saw all the Great Clint Eastwood. and. I just got fascinated with home. So I figured you know okay. Once I got all the flying, all military service completed, then go back to. Maybe I can have as much fun as I did on my second career as I did my first career Anka's not you you're. You're doing something you love is still getting paid for the perfect the the magic trick now, and that's why did in. So I went to school use my gi. Bureau. Retired which school Delhi film school and I started making movies and start off with a short films and then. went to feature documentaries My First Documentary was was dad a book is not GonNa make a move at your book and into the problem was. Not He signed caught your book he the pilot came out it was. It was so popular that a British company publication. GOT HOLD OF WE WANNA publish your book. So He sends up ends up getting sinus contract and in the contract was they got the film rights to though the book. So am I going so I'm looking at Head. You still have the film rights like adduced ensuring offer. Give that to me to. Find. Your visa. But mine is. Just, found a work around I didn't make movie called Bud Thailand I, decide to stop him. I said you know what I know because I grew up with the guys that he flew it. I've known for over fifty years and one of which did seven close to seventy years in Hanoi Guy I love Neil Neil Jones I. Mean I feel like he was just part of family and We wore his bracelet reusing away all through school and stuff in but mine was obvious. Make Movie Thud House there is they don't have the rights to thud pilots and I'm going to expand the store plus why did in the in? The store that data is told he you can watch it all. On prime video because the beauty about that one was I interviewed the pilot rescued him the the guy that got the the helicopter on the. Sheer. Meal Jones he tells about his time being tortured in. It's a it turned out to be a great movie on simply how well it did. On Amazon, prime, AM and. The amount of people that were watching a day was like, wow, on the reviews. So that is fantastic tells so of the next movie did. Yeah. I did well because. I can't a Jarrell contact you me and he runs the Super Savers aside because just movie the pass I want you to do one per hunt for for from Hungary said well, you Mitch that because I was was going to do my dad broke book sometime in. The success of Bub pods is going to go ahead make a movie by one pilots in, but the problem was doing another movie at the time I was doing a movie celebrating these Seneca, th anniversary of Ebay and though, and we were shooting out on on Location. Enormity on the senator anniversary. So I said, I'll tell you what I'll do that after I get done with Libertas and so we that's what we did. So I was Kinda owns doing to be simultanously Film Arizona and then come back don't stop in your. Ear in San Diego or San? Diego. Actually Sacramento and then because. He's documentaries you've got. People all over the place interviewed. Bud. Amazon was in the in the delivered hospital he flew pc won a cap on on Ebay I want his. In fact, he was a guest on this podcast several years ago his you know his planes called Old Crow Yep Great Guy Awesome Guy. I loved interview Em. So so bottom line was a fish that film did very well, it's on Amazon prime as well and sauce. Free feature films under the belt. You know all plan on Amazon prime and. The. How got going on my next film? Is this little star behind that one too was I was at a party. An old tomcat note was a Tomcat Bro. You're Tomcat road even the planes retired the two, thousand, six I'm still friends close friends with all guys. Usually some throws a party and sure up your phone new. Year's Eve party Were there and how the nobody who's now the president the book. So e comes up, we saw your movie pass and I. I really join us. You know what you need to do. Because fiftieth anniversary of top gun you need do feature film celebrating fifty years of a top gun. I'm looking for a new movie. Let's do it. So we and we join go we're gonNA produce together and we had course you don't movies on Monday and because, and then you especially want to do a feature film about the do right and you need to get the backing of. Air Force Army Navy and I one software tell the story about talk run I really need the backing of United States Navy. So I can get up there to foulland get on the sheriff and stuff like that. Well, guess what I was. That idea was out there. Not I. Wasn't. We went to only had idea and there are production these buying for that, and the Navy was on one company that contract to do it. And and we lost contract. So yeah. So it. Is, really weird because we they actually contact. We said, we love your Love Your Business. Plan. We love the poster. We love the fact that you went to top gun. This is perfect, but he didn't let out two very important things going to determine who's going to get the contract. What's your? What's your financing distribution? And I'm like well, you know it's a chicken and the next thing you don't you don't get the financing until you have an alias actor sign on because that's going to get you the distribution why it's like it's a kind of a battle and I said Navy you are my alias actor once I've got the back of the Navy I'll be able to go to rates, Yon Going For Roman, I'll get the funding and once I had the funding and the back in the navy get the distribution ill be don't worry about it you. Will I'm sorry you're you're you're competing with a lot of projects and one of the guys they are half full funding enfold distribution by net flicks. So they're going to have a civilian production company that knows nothing nothing about this and they're gonNA and they got the contract. So so we lost the contract I'm sure that. Yet. With I'd be good because because. It turned out. As this is all going on, guess what they're doing, they're filming top gun to and the top two was such a big the ask noxious gas. It was just such a big deal that the all the the admirals said enough we don't it is they. They felt it was impacting their. Because they're having to shut down to carry into do all the stuff. So they immediately. Told Chinfon, which is the again the name that handles Hollywood carpet said council all root. This. For Right now. Though So that's when that went away. Well. Okay. So we still have the the the head of talent, association which he you know he's been have full backing of association top. Gun Association Egos. We're still in this thing we just gotTa wait our time I said. Okay. So what this is all going on my wife goes you know you really should do anyways do move up. Tomcat. You, have all that stuff. Already we have all the busy do we have? And it's all retired. He can't. You don't even need to date. In the own wives know their their stock. So I said Okay you're now now she's a major player in players project. And that's so we started as I contacted Mikey said Hey. We say, let's let's go ahead and produce a compaq documentary and we it retired it just purposely. So we shot for the first half of the film at the last Tailhook. Pandemic we had. We had yet and we just started contacting all my old buds that were you know some? You know where I you know I I only shop as commander. Some of my buds finished to two star admirals. and. They had great stories is call him up and you'll be tested. A So. So that's how we put it all together film Finish the film in the. Film the final shots in February just as. The pandemic was starting. Then wind post production and we need the concept was gonNA release it when Topgun to was released, let let paramount and Tom Cruise do all the marketing for US okay. So in another three years of the was. They moved it. They moved through it was really supposed to be released in June in constant. Contact with, at that time. Is All ready to go and then they moved it to a December release date for Christmas Day and I said screw it were releases now and we we released it on the fourth of July weekend. So we're going to have for our listeners we're going to have links to to both both vicks books and these films in our show notes, and that's really exciting. Are you in Wgla? No no no. I'd say IT'S A. Film Industry is is. It's weird is. In, fact the more I'm in it, the more I to get out of it. I I've gone so totally. Independent. I kept I keep learning more about the business in all these you know God sagged. It date. They have so much rules about operating that the end up costing money. And Limited what you can do as a filmmaker. I want my first early movies was I. Didn't West Leader I had the perfect kid to cast it and they said, they saw US casting a minor. They're like, okay. Where's your teacher on on location but like it's could be film on a weekend? No, you still have a teacher again it's all these. Almost mafioso type of union rules, operation minimums, and Ami just takes a film that you can make. With Minimal costs. And it advised the cost of film where you don't make money. So works to make the movie. So I stay away from I'm a complete independent. Film maker because the other thing too is you get them involved in it they will define what you can say in. The message, the agenda of the film and I know for a fact that, oh, I pissed a lot of people. The highlights in the movie. I dress the issue about you know the way the veterans are treated when they come back being spat upon and stuff like that. In a man you should read some reviews that that they are slam. You know you have a whole sector of society that love the military parade and they're like, Fi Shahrukh best film. Mogul like this sounds like. I would only. Star One star to be a Eurostar your it's in his all because that one scene I talk about. Is it's crazy. So it know I just Kinda. I try to operate as far away from Hollywood is I can. Tantric Well that sounds like good advice. So speaking of advice now, we'll start with you there. What advice do you have for someone who's just starting out in aviation today? Gene never give up. The best why she gave me as what it took I graduated me too I was not. In Flight School starting flight school in the navy. Until it making eighty four and most people most likely would have given up but I just I just never gave up and just kept on you when I get turned down I finally got to do well, you is the. Some guys. Will get a flight time. So I spend every dime I had given some flight time never got my license. I just got flight time so I could think three-dimensional. And in the other thing, was I get just getting shaped to does the you have to go through some physical training and? So. Time short story short e want life so bad. He got himself a Slot Ignatius slot with marines. And so they flew him out to Quantico. Under Redeye, they meet him at the airport at four in the morning. Time. To in the morning by the time, they get into base four morning at sixty get him up. So they get him up with about two hours of sleep. and. They're gonNA give him the eye test. He the I touched here. He's always had twenty twenty but with hardly any street he busty I test next thing to do is a slap a cuff on him and take his book measure will, of course not. because. He's just busty now. So. Illicitly. Home. You're qualified so. Short version was that he had a a week stint in the marines. But point was, is that when he they wash them out with all these stupid. Actions. Here's a grown man. So this point he's calling me crying. And I've always been a philosophy that things always happen for the best. So I'm trying to convince someone else mark. There's a reason happen. One day you're gonNA look back and find out what happened for the best. Sure enough. He's now going to get accepted the navy he's going through flight. Training, Navy he's a base operations filing a flight plan. This guy suits next that looks over at Merck. Hey where are you at Quantico Class Olso? In he goes yeah he says. He says. Wow says. I'm a Washington area. The Navy accepted meeting Mir further they. Ought up. So Anyway Long Story Short was the guy says, did you hear what happened? Cheer Chronicle Class and he goes no, he said. He says two weeks before the graduation they call the whole class. In and said, he aviation pipeline marine pipeline is backed up, your classes have been canceled. You have to ops you can get discharged your questions asked no problem or stay as grunt. Stuff. So he because. Yuppies. Remember. When you told me thinks happened burst Found up. My class. So was right. Some Mica any additional words of advice for someone WHO's starting out. I I would regularly tell my students in the new guys that first of all ninety percent of your career is luck and timing. And that sounds very bad. But that's how important that ten percent of what you can control is as we you can't run you got hit the ground sprinting and you have to do the very, very best until you can't do anymore and they're the logical questionable I can't sprint forever and I said that's true. You know you do a three year operation tourism junior officer you cannot build a sprint you'll burn out. I said you'll know first of all, and this is like this any facet of life people light labels. So you're the new guy if you hit the ground running Hayes hearts, our guide us go. You hit the ground as a as a third the winslow. Kurd. You. Guy Turner himself around Your letter E.'s the sharpest ice stays does the most ANA he started? Yeah. He's a third. So make a great impression ops is not just about. The, hit the ground running, and then you will know when okay I can. I can make. Let a little bit here I go on cruise a little bit and get rejuvenated rested and then go back. Great around sprint. So, Vic what's on your aviation bucket list. Out like to go. To things I'd like to go to Oshkosh I've never been there Coppola. And then I'd like to go over to. What's Linda over a? Duck for. That especially other. Peaks that it's the fiftieth anniversary of sixties en route for. Written in we're. We're going to do it but. Pandemic. So what's on your? Bucket list mark. Wells, it's well other reasons why I wanted to film because I thought maybe I could make a fortune movies. I WANNA buy Spitfire that's that's my but I would love to buy spit I I just I'm fascinated with Spitfire or or the mosquito I love love boasts airplanes so. Okay and Mike. I. I would say, say they derive these Spitfire or? Mosquito. The classic words that you know I think the Tomcat is definitely classic and. Those were airplanes just you know they sound so cool when they're flying by the Rolls Royce one. That would be that would be the most. Well, it has been so great having you. I've never interviewed through people all at one time and it's Great, I really, appreciate you guys getting together to do this and taking the time but most important for all three of you. Thank you for your service sh. Well, thank you very much for giving us the update participate. So we've enjoyed expend. Great. You're welcome. Thanks again for listening subscribe now to the ready for takeoff podcast on itunes or stitcher radio, and please rate us in poster review on the item store for show notes, resources and more head over to ready for take-off podcasts dot. com.

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Apr 23, 2020

Sword and Scale Daily

14:05 min | 7 months ago

Apr 23, 2020

"Hello and welcome back to sort and scale daily. I'm your host Ryan Williams. It's Thursday April twenty third coming up on certain scale daily. An airman stationed in. Arizona was arrested and charged with the kidnapping and murder of New Mexico woman. Sasha Kraus's the suspect in a two thousand eighteen Ohio murder was apprehended in West Virginia. Finally authorities in Minnesota announced the arrest of an alleged serial rapist suspected of attacks. Going back to two thousand thirteen all this and more coming up on scale daily Twenty year old airman. Mark Gooch has been arrested in connection with the killing of twenty-seven-year-old to Sasha Kraus's Kraus's a member of the FARMINGTON Mennonite Church New Mexico was reported missing on January nineteenth. Her remains were discovered on February. Twenty first and Coconino County Arizona. Two hundred and fifty miles away from Farmington Gucci was arrested on Tuesday morning at Luke Air Base in Glendale and according to the Arizona Daily. Sun Is Accused of first degree murder kidnapping and theft. Sasha Krause was last seen on the night of January eighteenth picking up books from her local church. Her car was later discovered in the church. Parking lot law enforcement didn't have evidence that she'd been abducted but the possibility was ruled out since. Kroft offer personal belongings behind taking only her cell phone on February. Twenty First Sasha Cross's remains were discovered by man who was setting up camp near Sunset Crater Monument and Coconino County Arizona. The remains were positively identified using fingerprints and the discovery was shared with the public on February. Twenty fourth during the investigation law enforcement learned the mark. Gooch a first airman stationed at Luke Air Base in San Juan County Arizona had driven from the airbase to Farmington New Mexico on January eighteenth. The Day Sasha vanished additional evidence placed gooch near the sunset crater monument were. Sasha's remains were found on Tuesday April Twenty first detectives from the San Juan and Coconino County sheriff's office execute search warrants at the air base and took Gucci into custody. According to the daily Sun The warrant for Gooch's arrest was issued on Friday April seventeenth at flagstaff. Justice Court based on court records Gucci's charged with First Degree Murder Kidnapping and theft. Gooch's charged with theft. Because according to the documents he took Krause's headcovering and underwear officials believed that the murder took place between January eighteenth and January nineteenth in a video statement posted to the sheriff's facebook page San Sheriff. Shane Ferrari said quote San. Juan County has lived in fear not knowing if we had a Predator living insider community or someone was preying on it. I can assure you we have our man. Share Ferrari went on. Think the sheriff of Coconino County Jim Driscoll and express their desire to see the suspect facing the maximum penalty quote the sheriff of Coconino and I are committed to making sure that Mark Gooch receives a maximum sentence for these horrible crimes and yes Arizona. Still has the death penalty the decision whether to seek the death. Penalty in a case is ultimately up to the prosecutors. A spokesman for Luke Air Base so they are aware of gooch arrest but cannot comment on an open ongoing investigation or next story takes us to West Virginia. Thirty three year old. Brian Esters who was wanted on suspicion of murder in Ohio was taken into custody without incident by US. Marshals in Morgantown West. Virginia this Tuesday esters had been on the Lam for nearly two years police in Akron Ohio. Say That on July first two thousand Eighteen esters accomplice Andrei Warren fatally shot thirty one year. Old Dominick Thomas. In the parking lot of Julian's restaurant following a verbal altercation worn had ordered food to go only moments before the shooting according to the Akron Beacon Journal esters in Warren Approach. Thomasson younger man who were in a vehicle and both opened fire on Thomas. Police alleged that Esther continued firing Thomas. Close range even after Thomas had fallen to the ground the younger man. A pasture and the car suffered nonlife threatening injuries. Following the shooting both Esters in Warren went on the run worn was apprehended in August. Two thousand eighteen a couple of months after the incident he was charged with multiple counts including murder felonious assault and escape in two thousand nineteen. He was found guilty and since the life in prison with the possibility parole after twenty nine years authorities have search for Esther's ever since and recently received information that he was in the area morgantown West Virginia. He was apprehended quietly on Tuesday. Afternoon and officers reported finding a firearm. It's marijuana at the scene of his arrest. Us Marshal Pete Elliott said in a press. Release quote our task officers. Never give up looking for this. Dangerous fugitive with Brian Esters in custody. The streets of Akron Ohio Morgantown West Virginia or safer esters remains in custody in West Virginia pending extradition to Ohio after the break authorities Minnesota arrested suspected serial rapist who they allege responsible for multiple tax going back to two thousand thirteen now for our final story of the day police in. Minneapolis have arrested a suspect in connection with a series of sexual assaults that took place in Minneapolis and in an Ohka county between two thousand thirteen twenty twenty. The suspect is thirty. Four year old joy weibring of Ham Lake in an Ohka county. He is so far only been formerly charged with two attacks that took place in the Marcy. Holmes neighborhood of Minneapolis in the summer of two thousand nineteen however. The charging documents indicate that why Britain is suspected and at least nine other attacks and prosecutors have said additional charges could be filed as early as this police say that the series of sexual assault weibring suspected of goes back to two thousand thirteen. The attacks happened in both a Nokia County. Minneapolis and the first attack in. Minneapolis happened in two thousand fifteen in March. The Police Department released a sketch of the suspect. The public and warned he was thought to be responsible for several sexual assault and attempted abductions near the University of Minnesota's Minneapolis campus especially in the Marcy. Holmes Gigi town neighborhoods police evidence including witness testimony in DNA connects vibrant to those cases for the time. Being why burn has been charged in connection with two Marcy Holmes attacks which happened blocks apart the first on June ninth and the second on August seventh according to the criminal complaint on June ninth. A woman was asleep in her home when a man put his hands over her mouth and around her neck the woman fought the intruder who finally fled through the front door with cash and credit cards at the scene. Investigators found a trash can pushed under a broken window and determined. This was how the intruder made his way inside. Investigators say that they had the trash cans fingerprinted and the fingerprints match wibran's regarding the second attack. The criminal complaint states that the victim returned home late from work around four am and was attacked by an intruder after she took a shower in walk to her bedroom. The assailant placed one hand over her mouth nose and the other over her chest and then threw her on the bed. The victim reported that he sexually her and told her quote. I'm your worst nightmare. The victim struggled against the assailant who she later identified as why brand they managed to see his face she later described him to a sketch artist producing the image shared with the public. In March after the victims successfully kick the attacker in the stomach he pepper sprayed earlier when she still continued to fight back. He fled the scene. The victim rancher neighbor's apartment for help and they called the police. She was taken to a hospital and had rape kit administered male. Dna present in the Rape Kit Match. Wibran'S ON FILE SAMPLE OFFICERS. Say that the DNA connection to additional crime scenes why burn has been charged with first degree burglary and criminal predatory conduct in connection with the first two attacks. He's facing charges of first degree sexual assault and first degree burglary in the second. He made his first court appearance on Tuesday and was played with a public defender but the subject of bail was not discussed. Why burn remains in custody and is bill has been set at one million dollars for the first case and two million dollars for the second. His next court appearance in connection with these charges is set for May twentieth however should any additional charges be brought against him between now and then he will reappear in court earlier we will continue to keep you updated on story as more information becomes available before we go with a couple of updates on cases we've been following the first update is on Albert Johnson. The suspect in the killings of West Jordan couple Tony and Catherine Butterfield. The butterfields were discovered this season. Their home at around one. Am on Saturday. After according to police they were shot and killed during a home. Invasion the couple's three children all under the age of four rat home during the attack. But we're not physically harmed. Although the house looked it had been gone through and one of the doors inside the helmet been kicked in. Police are not sure if anything was taken on Monday. Police announced that the suspect in the killings Albert Johnson of West Jordan and that the suspect was known to the victims it was also revealed. The Johnson was believed to have been injured during a struggle with one of the victims. Leaving the scene with noticeable injuries later on Monday police arrested John's wife. Sina and charged with lying to law enforcement and tampering with evidence on Wednesday morning Johnson was apprehended in Sacramento California by local law enforcement with assistance from the US marshals. He's awaiting extradition to UTAH. Our second update is in regards to the Derek hightower. The suspect in last weekend's shooting spree through Alabama which left four people dead. Derek hightower has since been formerly charged with two counts of capital murder in connection with the murders of fifty four year old. Nancy Nash and thirty six year old Antwan Harris Nash. The first victim in the killings was shot and killed her workplace in Auburn on Friday morning. Hightower's accomplice twenty one year. Old Hill was also charged with capital murder. In Nash's death hightower's also been charged with capital murder of Antwan Harris inside his East Birmingham home on Saturday. Morning Hill is not been charged in connection with Harris's death hightower is also suspected of murdering. Daviel couple on Friday but has not yet been formally charged in that case. That's it for today's episode of certain scale daily. We'll see you back here tomorrow and until then stay safe scale. Daily is an incongruity media production. Your host was Ryan Williams Research and writing by Barack executive producer. Mike Booed as if you like the show subscribing. Leave us a review if you bite. The writers linebacker suggestions use the email address daily. It's WINDSCALE DOT com. Do you need something to listen to next. We'll check out this other show from cast media. I am Jacob Tula. I'm Jamie and we're your host of circle talking in each episode. We're GONNA bring you a new stalking case covering the INS and outs of each stalker. Their victims and their shoulders weapon. Yes what does he? Is it a gun nine? She hated me so much. She found my stepmother Brendan her and then was caught. Making a plan to attack me with my stepmother he shows up to my gallery and he's wearing a space suit. He looks at me and he goes. You look like Jessica Rabbit in lieu from the Fifth Element and then he looks at me very intensely and he goes and I'm GonNa Stock You. We hear about the cops not really do need thing or not really caring about the crime stock a lot of shame for the Predator. Who'd been stalking me for. Forty four years was starting to really interfere with my life and my freedom a lot more than he had been one of those random messages on my idea it was like I'm coming and I'll see you on this date. I was like responding to this and then it was like a verification of offset all of a sudden I hear a knock at the door so I opened the door and there they six foot something gentleman standing in front of me with a backpack and he looks at me and he said. Are you Erin kind of panicked? Because this isn't Larry. He followed me to my work and he grabbed me. Push me into dorm. Unblock unblock may be blocked me. I'm Jacob Tula Jamie BB strictly stocking mayors on January twenty. First we subscribe on Apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you listen podcasts like my God. This person won't stop texting me up calling me. It keeps showing up everywhere. And that's when it's like you're like Oh shit.

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New series in September. Meanwhile

The Art Newspaper Weekly

03:20 min | 4 months ago

New series in September. Meanwhile

"The we cannot is sponsored by Christie's visit Christie's dot com to find out more about the world's leading option housing seventeen, sixty, six, auction, private sales online. Anytime Hello, it's been Luke Air. Thanks for subscribing to the weaking out. We've had an extraordinary few months, but we're gratified that. So many of you listening I'm delighted to say that the podcast we'll be back on the fourth of September with a new weekly series with all the latest World News exclusive interviews, exhibition tools, and much more in the meantime division archive of one hundred episodes over the summer among the highlights are lonely works and works at the week that we began in March as museum shutdown including not willinger on. Jackson pollock. So He Whitley on Alma, Thomas Julia Peyton Jones on Leonardo and Simon, Sharma on jam w Turner. I'd also like to urge to subscribe to something else the team behind the we cannot has put together a brand new podcast. He's the trailer. We just launched a brush with a series of index conversations with leading artists in which we explore their work and life through their cultural experiences. The historic and living artists they must admire the museums that returned to the books music and other media and inspire them the APP. Let's pin into studio walls. As an art critic, I embrace Oh forms of contemporary art, but I do have a particular soft spot for painting. So this first series of a brush with beaches, four interviews with painters, and in the first episode I speak to the Kenyan. British artist Michael. There isn't another artist Goya. There isn't another autism paints. Goya that can do the things that he does which quite frankly should be terrible. Utterly convincing he reflects on very difficult aspects of human nature the textures of the paint in those painting it's just an incredibly daring way of using the stuff unbelievable like there's something immense about being in the presence of that because you you understand so much about somebody. said. Listen now and subscribe to a brush with on Apple podcasts spotify wherever you get you put coasts. Moving to tell you about we'll be hosting the latest event in a series. Live on Youtube Channel and it will feature discussion coasts. I'll be talking to turn the diamond from the hugely successful coast to coast Jonas. Five. PM, best midday. Nine am PD. I eight thirty. On the newspapers Youtube check to the art newspaper Live Avenue, is. Residents. We cannot is sponsored by Christie's is it Christie's dot com to find out more about the world's leading option housing seventeen, sixty, six, auction, private sales online. Anytime.

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The Love Is Viral Show Episode 78: Human Capacity & Mental Toughness with Major Justin HASARD Lee

Gold with Jeanette Schneider

27:37 min | 5 months ago

The Love Is Viral Show Episode 78: Human Capacity & Mental Toughness with Major Justin HASARD Lee

"A. Uh. Welcome to, the love is viral show I'm your host genetic Schneider the founder and CEO of live media and the creator of the lift pocket coach on the Apple App store. Our premise live is simple. A healthier you today leads to a healthier world tomorrow. Our guests include neuroscientists, therapist professors, coaches, authors, yogis speakers, entrepreneurs, and those who believe that had bigger battery life can be found at the intersection of mindfulness and science. Join me as we nerd out with a little bit of soul. The love is viral. Show is a live media production. Athletes and fighter pilots knew something you don't are human. Capacity is profound. An intersex at Science Mindfulness Major Justin Hazard Lee has nine years of experience flying F sixteen and F thirty five in two thousand sixteen, he was selected as the top instructor pilot of the year for the Air Force's largest F sixteen combat wing. He's one eighty two combat missions and has four air medals. In this episode he shares by presence, is vital in the air, and on the ground, the value of the debrief, and what you can learn from fighter pilots and taking responsibility for errors and learning from them. The value of meditation and Mindfulness Practices majorly host, eight, two, thousand and nineteen top podcast called the professionals playbook where he interviews world class experts on their keys to success, he also speaks on human performance decision, making mental toughness and how to debrief. Let's dig in. Hi. This is Jeanette Schneider. Welcome back to love is viral I'm here today with major? Justin Lee. Thank you for joining me today. Genetic thanks for having me on. Yeah, absolutely so just an I have known each other for quite a while now. He married one of my very good friends. So I'm thrilled to have you on for completely different purpose. We've already caught up on your new baby and how you're doing. But I wanted to bring you on because I'm fascinated by a topic that I think you and I find it very interesting and on your podcast, the professionals playbook you talk a lot about performance and the ability to lead, but using our own human capacity, and I am fascinated right now as I shared with you before we got started on the intersection of mindfulness and neurobiology, and I think it's so fascinating to me as we see people who are engineers and pilots and scientists. Bring about conversation that has to do with. People would think of as do. And why it's so important and I know you mentioned. Something recently posted on linked in about how we have a tendency. This is where I wanted to start. How we have a tendency to choose negative thoughts straight out of the gate. How that's kind of like our first. Space our platform from where we navigate the world and I wanted you to talk a little bit more about that. At thirty five fighter pilot here Luke and we train the next generation of pilot, so we've people come into straight out of pilot training and. Fly there thousands of decisions that we have to make and nobody's ever flown at perfect Sordi. So we have new pilots fly when they screw up. oftentimes they can go into what's called the snowball effect where one decision makes next decision, poor makes next one poor, and with our speeds we averaged closure rates of a mile every three seconds, so it's very easy for Saudi to spin out of hand, so we like to use a lot of sports psychology. One of them is staying in the present moment, and not worrying about those. Negative thoughts when you screw up, which everybody will, it's important to let that be in the past and move onto the next decision, so you don't let that previous poor decision. Affect your next decision, so it's important with with what we do when we're flying. especially with the safety factor and oftentimes for in combat, we'll have lives at stake. So I've always heard that pilots have sort of a sixth sense about them, and talked about staying in the present, and it's almost as if you kind of have your your typical senses, but you have a tendency to kind of almost be aware of everything that's that's happening around you. Is that something when you're when you're training? Like? How do you go through that process to get them to that space where they're not only present in the moment, but it's almost like and I don't know if I'm describing it correctly, but I remember talking to pilots were like it's like you almost have this extrasensory awareness of what's going on. That's. Something that we experience on the daily I think we were driving our cars. Yeah, well, you really WANNA. Be Detached so when we're in combat, we're sporting lot of special operations forces and we get to be. At fifteen thousand feet, so we're a little bit detached, and so our job is to have the overall view of what's going on and make logical decisions and for me that started at the Air Force Academy, so I was a boxer there and it's located in Colorado Springs, which is where the Olympic training center is, so they had sports psychologists come over and work with us, and they work with us on staying in the present moment on. Maintaining Positive Self, talk and visualization, so they would work with us on all this stuff and I brought that to pilot training, and it's helped me out quite a bit flying and now Luke Air Force Base where actually incorporating that stuff. We are sports. Psychologists assigned to every fighter squadron, and so when the new pilots show up, they start going through that process to try and build that mental resilience. I love that I think it's so valuable. And I wish is something that we were even bring into the schools because we can see the difference with children who have the opportunity to learn mindfulness visualization, and I think any star athlete will talk about the fact that they've already envisioned. The shots already envisioned. They've walked themselves through it I also know your debriefs. Though you guys take accountability, you take responsibility for the shots missed. Can you tell me a little bit about that? Because I found that fascinating as well because there's an awareness, but there's no shame. Well. You bring up a good point about sports so I when I, see pilots come through. oftentimes the better pilots will have some sort of a sports background because sports teach you how to perform in a high pressure environment. They teach you how to take criticism and to get better from that criticism for the next game, so sports have big parallel, and you're right. Debriefing is the any fighter pilot where the most learning happens? They will say in the debrief, and so we'll go out and we'll fly only for about an hour hour and a half to. We're OUTTA gas and we'll come back and we will debrief the Saudi for two six hours and we'll. We'll spend ninety percent of the time on the fifteen percent. That didn't go well, so there's not a lot of padding other on the back and having beers. It's an intense process, and sometimes we'll listen to the same radio call for ten different times to figure out. What was the way that we could have done this better. Yeah, what would you say to? Those who are not who do not have military training? WHO ARE NOT AND What would you say as to how a civilian could bring this into their life with the examples are and how it helped you personally yeah, I think starting off with a debriefing in general, a lot of get bogged down in the day to day and don't even debrief, and that's how you learned to get better. You analyze what happened because when we fly your hair on fire, you're making decisions as fast as you can. Then afterwards is really. Really where you can pick apart those decisions and we have three different types of errors. We look at a perception error. Decision are an execution error, and we break each one of those down, and then we develop lessons learned so that we can fly better on the next sortie, because it'd be nice if we could go out and fly every single day, but we can't. And these stories are expensive, so it's on us as instructors and students. To get them as good as possible in the flights that they have so when they go to combat, they can have with airpower, sometimes strategic level effect on the on the battlefield. I love that and I love. I love that you kind of break it down because I think so many times in our lives. We're not willing to take a really honest. Look at the mistakes made. I was thinking about that recently. There's a couple of things that I've done in the past couple of years that every now and then I don't know if you've ever had the experience like they pop into your mind, and you're embarrassed even in the. The moment right then 'cause. You're like I can't believe I. Did that and you don't want to think about it? You kind of push it out of your mind where I think if you have that type of reflection and that opportunity to say okay. What did I what did I do wrong? Why does this embarrassed me so much? Or how did I make these mistakes and turn them into lessons. I think that's an incredible part of being able to. Really create a next step Ford and such a valuable lesson. With my with my daughter, my daughter's nine. She does not like talking about past mistakes so a lot of times when things have come up, shall be like Mommy. I don't want to talk about it. It's really embarrassing and here I have the same issue over the last couple of days and I've been thinking about things but I. Think it's such a great thing for us to take back is to say like if you're going to get better at something if we're going to be lifelong learners and I think self knowledge is so incredibly valuable. He also have to take stock of where you've messed up. We have really. Really pay attention to those things. Yeah, it's a bruised ego, oftentimes so and the debrief. We're going over all these are some of the most talented pilots in the world that are coming to us, and we're going over all things that they did wrong, so it's important to set the baseline that we're not doing this in a negative way. We're doing this so that you can get better so that. When you go to combat that you can make the right decisions then so I think setting the framework that we're doing the to get better. It's going to be a little bit painful for as long as you see that. I think it's not so much a bruise to the EGO and. Since that thirty five is so new. We're having pilots that are coming from other platforms so. I'm a major. Sometimes we'll have lieutenant colonels that are coming from that fifteen from the F sixteen, and so they're far more experienced than me, but in the debrief. If I'm the flight lead I'm running the debrief and they know to just be quiet and listen to the feedback just like same thing with me. When I was going through, I flew sixteen for six years, I came here and I knew it's situational leadership to to embrace my role. Be the student. Listen to all these things instructors working hard to try and build. Those lessons learned random down in my notebook. And then review it before the the next sortie. I love that because there's also that whole idea of situational leadership and taking ego out of the equation, and really because I, mean you? You have lives on the line right, so you have to really kind of move that aside, but I think it's so valuable just generally for us to really be able to take that direction and take that. Can constructive criticism from someone else just in our daily lives when you're in those situations. As you walk out of the debrief. Is it? Is it the slap on the back is like okay. Here's what I'm GonNa do better, do you are you? Do you go home and you're like? Oh Man I really like the mood when you walk away from that container where you kind of have an expectation of how you're going to react and respond. What does that look like when you leave? Early depends on how well you did on the flight I've done some flights were. It's gone really well in some flights where it's gone terribly and. Being a fighter pilot every sortie pretty much for the first five years of your career is going to be graded, so you'd start off in pilot training. Every single flight is grated. You're flying the t six than the t thirty eight you here to be course flat. F16 each flight. You're getting a gray each flight. They're picking apart everything that you did wrong when he get to your first fighter squadron. That's about two and a half years into the training. You graduate the your class. You show up and your job is to be in charge of the snack. Bar Semaine. Folks that are stocked in if you don't do that, everybody is going to be pretty upset. Keep you in check. Yeah, so you can't have too much of an ego and each light will still be graded. You are essentially worthless to the squadron. At that point, they'll go through three months. We call mission, qualification training, and finally you will be a little bit useful. You'll be a wingman. You're just attached to your flight lead following him or her around, and then you're now upgrading to be in charge of four aircraft in an instructor. So the first five years every single flight is great, and that can be difficult and as instructor. What I try to do is at the end of the flight. Really and these these are long days. oftentimes it'll be three hours in mission planning than will show up two and a half hours before the flight over a brief every single thing that we're GONNA do go fly for that about hour and a half, but it takes a lot of work to to start up the jet to take. Take off. Come back. Take off your gear and then that two to six hours, so it's really a full day. Annual typically be exhausted in the students they're. They're trying their absolute hardest. That's the one thing that we can almost always count on that. They are going to be motivated and trying really hard. Sometimes disorders don't go well and I tried to at the end. Wrap it up with. The three things that they did well and then the three things that they need to work on because oftentimes. We call it. The their mental brain bites her out by halfway through the debrief. Not only as live a life coach in your pocket, but we have coaches in Three D., as well with their most recent upgrade, you can sign up for one on one coaching with a person on the phone. Who will hold you down? Hold you accountable and offer you perspective as you build your big bad beautiful new life. Apple users consented far premium plus plan through the APP or check out our next level and mastery options at loves viral DOT COM forward slash coaching android users. We haven't forgotten about you. Live coaching is available to you as well just reach out to us at Deer Live at love is viral dot com and we'll kill you in on all the ways live can create with you. Live pocket coach welcome to your life. Yeah for sure, what's your? As far as leadership is concerned because you have been led for a period of time, and of course, have folks that you? Answer to. What has been the most inspirational or powerful leadership that you have seen in your career. I think people that empower the people below them. So when we're flying, oftentimes were detached from any sort of higher headquarters for instance in Afghanistan it was just a to ship about airborne in charge of and we made up the entire one hundred percent of the fast close air support in the entire country, so we will be going to different firefights, and we would be making decisions and the thing about what we do is rarely. Can you make one hundred percent correct decision because things are happening? Happening so quickly, so you just try to strive to maybe make the top ninety percent decision and move on, because there are so many decisions to be made, so you'll never be able to to have a perfect Saudi and having leadership that understands that, and can intellectually empathize and say you know. Walk a mile in your shoes, and if I were flying and I only had a split second to make a decision, and that was pretty good one that that you made yeah, it's I think that's. So, incredibly important to. Let it. Go like you said like. It's like I'm gonNA. Make that top decision and then I kind of have to let it go, because then you, you move out of the present moment, right you're. You're stuck in the past. You can talk about it later, but I think that something that a lot of people's struggle with so I. I've always been fascinated by people in high performance jobs who have to? Fly Fast jets drive cars, whatever because it seems like there's almost kind of like a tunnel. There's almost. A such a high level of training of self that you can be at your absolute best. What does that mean win? You're out of the air. Is there an exhaustion that comes out of over you I? Mean I know that it's it can get hot. You've got a lot of gear on. You're making very fast decisions. What kind of toll does that take on you physically? That's it's difficult, so one thing that are saying that we have is as soon as you put on your helmet. You're going to lose twenty. IQ points, and that's because things look easy when you're just sitting at one G, where at one g right now, but when you're pulling nine gs nine times, the force of gravity I weigh over two thousand pounds. It's hot. There's lot of things going on, so you have to over train because when things get stressful, you're probably not going to perform better. You're pregnant. Perform to the level of your training and yeah typical training stories. We'll be about an hour and a half, which isn't too bad, but. in deployed to Afghantistan some of our sorties were. Were averaging about five hours going up to eight hours and one of the things that. We realized quickly as you can't be on for eight hours. You can't just take sat tests for eight hours. So what I would do is every ten fifteen minutes. Take a few deep breaths. Take drink of water. I would bring a protein shake and. Some peanut butter, one of those Justin's peanut butter packs, and you really have to pace yourself because this is a marathon new can blow all of your mental energy in the first. Couple of hours, and then be done, and if you're responding to a troops in context, situation, our seven, you need to have enough mental reserve. Just like your fuel. When we fly in our jets, we can be on fuel conservation mode Oregon be in full after burner full after burner we can burn all fuel on five minutes so I think it's important to treat your body the same way. There's such a case for our human capacity and performance, and I think only folks who are highly trained really start to understand. It's almost like there's the secret sauce where we can turn on parts of ourself and become far more focused, and in charge of our lives, and our realities and I think sometimes it's hard for someone who's maybe coming out of college. Things are moving into roles and things like they every single person I've talked to who seems to have been in some type of Souissi Sue. Position or an any type of like performance athlete. What have you? They've all learn these kinds of tricks of the trade. They've learned how to really. Capture! This like magic within them that we all have access to. If you had someone that was sitting in front of you, who is not within the Air Force or what have you? What would you say about human capacity and potential? Like what have you learned throughout the course of your career? Well one thing I think people can do on their own is meditate so I started meditating back in. About Twenty sixteen when I was deployed. Days were pretty stressful and that's helped out quite a bit i. think that works as a parallel to to what we do so when you meditate. What I do with mindfulness meditation is you're trying to do a couple things one. You're trying to identify when you're thinking because it's easy to get absorbed in. That thought bubble and forget that you're even meditating, so one recognize that you are thinking about something next. It's not too bright yourself and I think that has to do with with confidence when we. We I! You have to be very confident in what you're doing. And if you are meant mentally berating herself yelling at yourself, saying that probably failed the ride, and that's not going to do well for your confidence, so do not grade yourself do not berate yourself. Just let it go and then move on, so I think it works really well and. And then you'll notice after doing. It takes a lot of a lot of time, and I'm not even I. Don't think anybody thinks they're good at meditating. Even now I probably at best still have half the thoughts that I do normally so I'm just eliminating half the thoughts in if you can eliminate most of the negative thoughts than I think that's going to help out with your confidence in in whatever you're doing, so I think you can meditate. That's a controlled environment and in the real key is being able to use that in the wild us at for. If you're dealing with people if you are being interviewed if you are flying, so he can really take off the mat as they say. Yeah I love that because I've told so many people that it's not what happens during the meditation. Necessarily, it's how you live your life in between your meditative practice because you'll find that you're a lot more in tune to self like you mentioned like. Be Able to tell when you're thinking I can tell now because of my own meditative practice when a thought or an emotion that does not fit my desired state comes into my presence and I think that that's something that I think i. wish everyone had access to right where you had the ability to say okay moving into. Fighter flight. Okay, I'm moving into a relationship with these emotions that don't feel positive and I. think that's the key that meditation kind of a marks. It's almost like you really start to understand the difference between the charter and the stillness. And it provides such focus and clarity that I think it's valuable i. have so many people who tell me that they're they. They're bad at meditation and I'm like if you can breathe, you can meditate I'm curious for you. Where did when did how did you start meditating? What was the practice in? What do you do now? I dabbled with it a little bit before price started in two thousand fifteen, but didn't do it seriously until I was in Afghanistan, but I just use the APP calm. And I just do the. Most most of the time, just the daily calm and it's just a ten minute thing in the morning before I get out of bed, and it just a good way to practice for the day and. I don't think you need to. You can just sit calmly a lot of people. Tended try and meditate while they're working out I. think that can work well if you're if you're good at that, so I think there's a whole bunch of different ways to slice it, but the big thing is that you're you're doing those things identifying thoughts and moving on trying to stay in the present moment for me ten minutes. A day is enough I'd like to. To ideal world you to twenty minute sessions would be the best thing for me. Yeah, no transcendental meditation is to twenty minute sessions and I did that for a and I still kind of revert to it in a smaller chunk in the morning, because it's very hard to do to twenty minutes in a day, but that was that was life changing I started with breath work, and I found that. If you're paying attention to your breath, it's very hard for you to think thoughts. So I've always recommended that as a great in the map is fantastic, there's a lot of APPs out there. We have some meditations on our APP and I. Just I'm so appreciative of the community of people who are like you don't have to get it right 'cause. There's so many people out there who are like you need the special pillow. You need to have this APP. J. Breathing better than that one and I'm like there's no wrong way to do it. How has it helped you in your personal life? Outside of the military I think the same way, so you can identify. When we're going through life, we have thousands of decisions you have to make, and you're GonNa make poor decisions especially during the coronavirus and things like that when they come up, there's. There's a lot of decisions to be made not a lot of data. You'RE GONNA. Screw up and you have to stay in the present moment and try to make the best decisions you can for you and your family moving forward, so it helps out quite a bit, we also. Another to a we uses visualizations, we call that chair flying in the Air Force, and you can go through an entire sortie just in your head, so how to start up how to do all that and so I. I do that quite a bit in in life. Just go through mentally and I think. It weaves into a meditation of just going through whatever I'm doing beforehand, and then you can show up with a little bit of experience yeah. I love that. We have visually visualizations on the APP that I. Think I think we have more of those than we have meditations because there's such a great way for you to kind of get out of your own head and especially. When you're envisioning that future sulphur future decision that you want to make. And how it gives you so much more clarity. It seems like when you're in that space. All of the noise kind of falls away in a stupid decisions, and like what this person thinking. What would that person think? All kind of goes into the gray. I think that they're incredibly valuable. I'm really I'm happy that you join me today. If there was anything that you wanted people to take away from this. With even your podcast like you have a desire to talk about leadership and performance. What what do you WanNa? Leave behind. What would you want people to take from this conversation? Well. You can debrief which what you're doing, so whatever whatever project you're working on, just spin a couple minutes afterwards, saying what decisions did I make? How can I do it better for the next time? And that's kind of what I try to do with. My podcast is to get. Experts in other fields like astronauts. Negoti Afghanica share things like that to come on and share their lessons learned because that's what we thrive on in the fighter, community is lessons learned so that we can learn experiences from other people and don't have to experience that ourselves and I think that's how we get better as a community and you can apply those lessons to to your individual life. I love that and I think it's it's. I love. Bringing people from different walks of life together to share experiences, because I think we've only touched a little bit of what we're capable of, and if you stay in your own circles, and you don't continually try to improve yourself, you don't continually try to take knowledge and understand What's out there? We stay in our little bubbles, and that's no place to to spend our lives I wanNA thank you for being on the show today, and for the time that you take or that you've taken with me and I just appreciate you so much and what you're doing on your podcast. Well, thank you Jeanette for having me on. I think you're doing something incredible here. Trying to inspire other people and I think the roads going to be a better place for it. Thank you I appreciate that. Thank you so much for listening today. We are capable of so much adjust requires a commitment to ourselves and the ability to take radical responsibility. You can find majorly and his podcast at professionals playbook, dot, com or an instagram at Justin fighter pilot. As. Always please subscribe Lever Review and don't forget to share with your friends. We are always interested in content that uplift surf. You have ideas. We'd love to hear from you. Email us at deer. Live at love. IS VIRAL DOT COM? 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An Adaptable Career with Pravin Gandhi

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An Adaptable Career with Pravin Gandhi

"Welcome to the software vp stories. I'm schiff. I'm chitra and ninety. We bring you interesting untold stories of people associated with the creation or consumption for software based solutions. You'll hear stories of wadsworth. And sometimes what didn't you will also hear very personal experiences and insights. That would trigger your thoughts and by a do even greater takes a lot of passion and commitment but make it ought mashes and commit me something that you will hear throughout this conversation. Gandhi a by nearly ideal industry with fifty years industry is no nowadays but his being investing and mentorship entrepreneurs. What you may not know is that. His associated with the industry started as a software provisional in his journey. Over the years. You would hyun about sparking opportunities. Were in other people's problems and dreaming big listen on welcome the software people stories very but the long and kneeling string of contributions to the industry. I may not be able to adequately your joining like you. Bad quest you to shed yardage story does not this conversation. Thanks thanks for being yet. Thanks for having me while. I have to talk about my journey. As the night. Deep professional it was essentially quite by accident that When i came back from the us. I had really no idea what i wanted to do. And but since i learned something about the computers and programming in the year sixty three to sixty seven. I thought that i would try to stay connected with that. Sold or sting. I did was join. Ups as a programmer. And i was one of the first hundred employees all of his fist. Before mr police stein. I fully join dan I through busan Programming and i realized that it is not something that excites me than i gained jobs. Leonard service provider or patrol services and became a systems analyst. Dead you know. I had a modicum of success being able to successfully program may leave And leave management system order textile industry which in itself add some complications of its own. At what all up to two years in that that organization was not very forward-looking et cetera. Was getting bored of blink programming Owner a you know working with technology that wasn't vide- exciting. I wondered move something different. And i got an opportunity to move to delay and join will export or pollution in their operations research organization. And since i had done industrial engineering. I had done a lot as one of my Topics so i joined the united airlines again by lot was i mean without computing assistance. What advice would meaning at you. Something with if anybody remembers what a passive machine was calculations using passage ellas. That's not something that I enjoy so then. I moved on. Virginia organizers in sales and marketing of will and bad the job wash to manage all the all the colors in the country for the and which is where i thought i had found i. I think that i found my calling which was schism marketing i get. I discovered that. I did ability to create great equations with the customers and so on and so forth and i did my learning on the job on what it says and what is marketing etc etc. So i added a reasonable. I think i had pretty good success rate at at But then mr joy fernandes game and decided that followers not good for us so you know will close and so we all had to leave the organization. I kind of left a little earlier but Soul i came back and to bomb bay. And really no idea what i'm gonna do turned out that A family friend was presenting the company. Tektronix indio the us and these instrumentation onboard just introduced computerized testing system and in that organization. I mean in. His company is Will there was. Nobody understood computers. And at least i knew ultra computers So i figured that I can join the company as one of the promoters and that's how did john was born Figure out how we can. I can them in their brutalize automation system but use that leverage to get distributorship up for digital equipment in india. Okay and that worked out and we started in one thousand nine hundred seventy two went on to become quite one of the most successful the. It company needs because it lost the state of the art project. At that time it was a new kid. On the block decked technology and of course there was no computing allowed. What a commercial businesses. Because there was the beliefs indeed niddle vienna. Lots of it. That computer does displays jobs. So most of the computing. That was allowed was india utterly space signs i had to be spaced. And back itself was completely under the wing of the government okay all the labs etc etc defense lab space lab so on his own solo. So that's all i Began my journey. All for computers and build an organization that became really lodge or bush standards and in nineteen eighty four. A load of then. Prime minister gandhi decided that. I think we were living in the dark ages. Decided open up the space or gunshot computing. Israel rejects really didn't really happen till nineteen eighty eight but then he set up a department electron ix and all that and it's a can write a book on what it to deal with the government organization will be able to participate in the processes and so on and so forth and i think we as a company with me and mike golic. I would say very Salesman so what. We figured out that the split do not have the knitting process indebted us too much a little war wash will basically sent to the end. User request went to dealey department of electrons and the floated a tender and some figured out a way to make sure that we were the only supplier. So that's creating that was beating the and illinois and i think we were generally honest. It's all i mean. There was no hidden agenda. The bitty would Relationships with but so i was not salesman in the guy who's will go on For converter say we were genuinely dare to help solving business head of the consumer the customer. So it was. You know. I mean i remember My first sale was in nineteen. Seventy four rule israel and that is when they bought eleven to be the ground station for eventual satellite. That they were going to say whoa and a flesh none of us knew anything about eliot communication etc. But you know with the support of us. Egypt took them a bit right than big eurasian and rest is history that they became our primary customer for many of the computing environment and beaver. Evelyn all the government. Labs and named the dr deals of of the country to cut it short Then when the sobe letter. I mean you know betty en via blitz in the space of the fantastic okay was never considered a of rocks todd in commercial computing was. Ibm ibm boston. On schmidt N india economy opened up the import. Obviously we linked to sell the knock sorta latest but somewhat latest technology so it was a heart audit to see how we can compete with ibm and i think because we were able to but the big thing will wanted for digital was that they were extremely fast shoot the technology was many superior in terms of speed nutso great in software. Be a compiler or anything is they. Just you know. I full on that market but we had to inaugural is you want to compete in this country. So i was. Betty been very lucky to have Solar dr i lodge computer. Which was ibm three. Seventy and more baio. Okay i think the first incident of its kind in much of computing the space in india. Now rolling backup in terms of some of the challenges we had that we are the venosa. They decided to experiment with a nuclear bomb. Government of us clamped down on sale of technology to india. And this i was like know. I forget but anyway slater bleach wayne be bud sort of vide- dried up because we report logistic futures a mobility. Okay show at which point we decided that and you know. This is the quantity. i think. Luke air in almost all entrepreneurs that how do outdo be Can you'll be numbered about the you know survivor. So which is the time and that was also at the same time. Bc's order becoming prominent video expensive. But that was the advent and budget did not really have any great the butte solution and expensive. Okay so which point what we did. Wa- school tie up with a manufacturer and big buildings one be had make. Bc's savitri sorted under the brand and we also bought an agreement done The lowest end up be eleven which was available on a single board routes and then boost. I mean exhibition. Nb burtless it has any dejan estrada because that was a requirement of the idea that Up for and. I must say that this was how be actually managed who utilize our human capital in giving them different products to said stole. All that continued. I think we were the india. Once the bbc's and it as and rose were in the play we were the fourth largest Feces supplier and continue to be a largest applied in the midrange. That is the beauty. Eleven typos computers so that culminated into a reasonably large company of at that dimes and nineteen eighty eight digit units. Visit them decided that today one to come shows into india and which is where they had proposed a joint venture and were other claimants. Our partners the voter looking at such as nicole. Rejoice ratan tata's baby kind of love in d electric space but because of our nation and our relationships we won that We started a joint venture and went public at the same time. Okay it's was in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. So that was the culmination of my computing better. Electric's journey question was offered was little value. Because not only did we understand that. The indian managers understand nor the government understand because we believe that we add very smart people and be can develop everything here so we don't need to reinvent software. And which is. I think the basic reason or underwear lieu of chocolate now and i would like to hazard a guess that even if you had a Which was locally made as again. Something that comes from microsoft you would still not even get one tenth of it while it may be the best because you know daddy's the band and also i mean i don't think that really knew. I think we understood how to main. I mean develop abroad. But i don't think that we ever knew new taste and being said and stuff ordered all of be softer in so and i think extent this mindset still continues but it's war now because open economy and you'll have a choice to get something that is as a tractor. Why would i want to die out something. Local beach may have challenges of support and features etcetera etcetera. So you know you inaugural something then you sort of ended up making the price lower that made you basically compete in a segment. Where the large multinationals would wouldn't compete show an engine that would mean all the sme segment but it's less struggled machine cycles are extremely long. Is this systems products or large application product. Sentence show anyway. So that's kind of my journey. The a building. I mean diet can relate you many horror stories of the main overnight. The ad daily to be ready to be bad proposals for a on. The department of electron in center is that we had to go through to succeed but again it was also about our relationship with people lead department. You know as you know. I'll of of leaks so they have fear to maintain in budget. So you know we. Noon would be made to wait. We would we or eleven o'clock or discussion on the tender and would have to wait till six o'clock in the evening and all the other competitors. Do all be sitting jacking a and not going. When we will be ordered so you'll be missed lunch and dinner lunch or short so awesome that trials and tribulations but you know at the end. It was fun because he succeeded. That really nice medecin from the days of a so much of patients are at least not getting frustrated. Irritated and bathing hard on these meetings. Do a time when you're on the other side. you're mentoring. Entrepreneurs are investing that everybody wants to move fast that innovations. How do you see that change happening. Well no i. i don't know i. I was never a lizzy on different reactor gould what we had to do. I just saying that the other party so you had gone for develop patients do right. Dying was between In our mid eighties. Of course in this mistake a long time to learn your by that time i mean be bitch loginova organization so then when people would ending. I talk to do isn't organizers. So i i mean i will always a task must in terms of dying. My father ed was when worst one of the worst name managers. I should the go you assault particular. On time be scared he went to be a minute late anywhere and a minute late so dying. Is people still complain at. I get you know in meetings or whatnot at the time. I'm ready to come and if people don't show yeah any bugs the hell out. Yeah my question is more from. There are a lot of entrepreneurs at least in bangalore meet a lot of them. Ask biting entrepreneurs. I would say who think that. I start up today and then another year year and a half maybe two years i wanted to become a eunuch on me that i mean to me again. I don't want to be little unique lawrence. Because i don't even think unicorn is a measure of success is the lingerie and sustainability of the company. That is That to my mind success in this is the effect venture capital will want to make things happen victory for years and be able to exist and mewa arc lead. There is pressure from the investors. You'll grow fast and the entrepreneurs the aspiring entrepreneurs having seen such great value creation. Whatever that waste but they all want to become a unique lawns. I think people have to realize that you build a stable company. your day will come And because to be a unicorn on show you must also. I'll go play. The id inject average in a game. You have to learn what turns them on. What may drake's the jewish show that you get you more money Example if i as a mental. I've never understood this business. Model of market share At any cost at at all you. And i don't even invest in companies that have that as a book inge mainly beyond early stage investors. So if you never have the capital anyway to make them get by shed at whatever cost that may long but you know some of it is. I am accused me of being cynic but we had an investment of injuries sword in red bus to the bengals based bumpy and company that bloomingdale making profits and it was unique in his space. Bunny investor game along. Dan give us some brice. Which you know. I had not even imagine get. That's the game But anyway having said that you know building and then take promoter moved on and so on and so forth within three months of dead aquisition they were they were giving Cashback simple papon's if you bought tickets l. be entrepreneurial throw at moved on was wondering we were just having to categorize casual conversation yard Buying a ticket wide web. We'll give him something back. Yeah you know. So but again i leave. Leave that to judgment. That is fun that is just so much prepared to throw it and they want to make sure that with the use of that large gap reporter there have. It made sure that there is nobody else in the market. This because in overtime many clones are come up to richard a likelihood bus. But if you have enough money to throw enough money at the marketplace daniel schorr to motorists on the market then the second guy the third guy will either die or whatever so that the that's the nature of the game which i have never understood so i have never participated in a later stage when i don't i'm not a i am a company. Be that financial and in nice. This also nicely segues into one question that i normally ask all the guests to is in dumbs of i'd ways normally there's about people trying to consider ideas a career but also nowadays with all this spend make other things a lot of mid career people are also wondering should i continue. Is their career. Today tried to venture out. So what should they consider. And do you think of 'cause it's very broad area still offers opportunities for people to come and grow wasn't plenty of opportunity appointees again that do you have. Let me step back. Debate than dan. to them when i started my first venture fund and That watch the silicon valley boom and there was a lot of money available. But i remember bud that of the career era immense joe fish you know in the thirties and forties decided that this is you know but apps great way to make money and they all started to be entrepreneurs and very quickly. They found out that he was making money. Is that only objective dividends on survey. Because they didn't understand. I'll work out both People mandela had their cabins and the deputy and vendetta dre and etc etcetera. So my mind at the right age. Who did who is not a generalization but the right age for somebody who launch launching nor ship is around thirty thirty five okay people. You're seven twenty eight have done since but it takes a a lot of passion and commitment but make it all. Were one quality. Obviously and this stigma that yes you have to have the passion but warned that fashion by said in our make you a unique lord. Anything else for that matter beacause. You don't have. The skills will be which is why you need. Mentors will guide you s. Food that right. I'm to get the right Human capital in the company will be based company properly. You know you can't be selling from nine to six then worrying about hr problems in the night or you may have to that. But that's many are small five people come in bed. Hr problems don't exist because you have the passion to take care of you when you become one of the biggest a work at i do with the investi thumpings that i have at Trout what do do how do you convince people who stay on at lower salaries you know build that fashion that you on now. You know you've been here for so long. You know. I need an. It's very important. Build loyalty in the organization will lean but some majority of the people if you communicate to them properly display god one amendment to the ause. It is no reason why people will if the company is not making headway in the market. Then it's all important Off manila invested in a young la- footage on his that is martin of the know. When it's time to quit that is will be forget. Or and joe at that buying or continue to be our are all bill to realize that maybe he or she is not the right interleaved yoga okay could be old burned to allow. Somebody is who has backed their name. Chips beyond just acknowledged you to build an organized. And i don't. I think people forget that. Just jar technologies much sufficient. You will have been done organization that is. That's very interesting. 'cause we also come across this in many of our coaching situations teams. How do you get the person to let go of something that has been a passion project. They've been so deeply involved in your straight through him. You know you have to work with. That is something else. You can obviously s fashion. But he's also smart guy right. I mean smart way so obviously the numbers speak for themselves. If you're burning money every Every day every model have to be smart enough to see that the end is near Now you see it up to be able to. Yeah that would be people who are not willing to give up ninety. I want that it doesn't mean it is no solution. You can all offer offer dan. What them through or nudity auctions but they are just bent on continuing the that's also of quality that you have to learn to assess when you are investing in what way do like the feel that they are god's gift to mankind and it'll never work and it has happened we have shut down companies and taken off that one. It's a often dishes. So unless you oughta An inch again Murdered anybody and saddam. You'll is like the las vegas nece you take hundred beds and maybe two will succeed. I mean there are some many studies. Which are you that out of ten one can give you. If you are a smart investor on can be fun or you can give you fifteen actually turn thirty percent if you midrange by x return and the restaurant on almost all your betting on human and somebody obviously the idea that you believe as a market so having said that. Let me also tell you something else after my Stint with the digit nine thousand nine hundred eighty two larger ownership and hence I had no interest in working for somebody in the us and reporting and all that so we all all of us sort of out of the company. And then i was. I heard loss again. I was wondering what to do and beaches. When is and that sort of against with the christian software started software panicked people from atc and other nba guard. Very talented lonzo. Believe it is not a solution whoever it can build and equal and as you know but that experience for me and be lost money and be feted but that experience was really relieved that he did a lot of engineering and development working on that we just didn't have people underscored system end market need. It was more most. All the development was coming from a technology perspective so you are always in the constant a need on making end on the other side. You had what we used to then call them. Edp managers would not be Brilliant and also not very stable with the organizations that you know what you ended up fleeing wall somebody of i don you favor by buying green something you beckon change this change that and so why is now finally getting into lays it'd be managers and he wants the display differently wants to be never already do production lines be awfully talk ward. Language that lingo. It'd be able to convince by india and some reasonably big size for petitions to but you know it was being took much longer than it would and so on so forth at four there was never enough money will pay for and you know like i'll if microsoft says okay warned us change your cost you five thousand dollars and you shut yet an old buddy as you more you can have stained off and on that none of that so you know. That was an experiment that taught me ask why I offer many but we just have to create complete products. Because i don't think we understood the environment not present there will not be the regions and advance and all that like the extended must be almost a plug and play. That was that was my tries with to be on by. I think are corporations. Please not now. But he's in your telephone by or soul that it now the computer departments okay and everybody that always judging I can do it. Victory meant people for election and the argument. Dan did oh he would send it for that. Then you order to get a did for the rest of your life and they will never be able to do what they saving what they taught. Well it elite on on the beginning to change laws of the fact that You know we are now should he. He had a seeing people and d is become more important than you. What routes are willing to experiment. Yeah more than subscription marlins zonal userbase raising pricing that yeah and You know even do buyers are willing sale Is three things. Forget the get in sports to get this. I'll get this and oppa solution. Which i don't have missing in you know You know the interesting that you stay in bed for india gentlemen james be to act only one yano twenty billion dollars and i was just eating that if you that while it is altering in one. App is the most difficult app boop travelers. So what twenty. Five billion dollars or not. I don't know. But i don't know who will bite because he's a very specialized app. But i'll that is disorder. Plan of doctors who free industrial auditing under one app and walmart wants to be billion dollars or some such number so wins even up yet. I mean i think that alert. Gst implementation examples of large companies. Like infosys or not have not been able to successfully implement complex systems schultz. We succeed as orders systems analyst and all that once the specifications are defined by. You're seeing at least the other implementation or the railway visions in our time. Yes that was you know. This is the problem. I think you know the one point. Three billion people you've got country can't be satisfied with three successes. Call ourselves software power. That's not really. I think it's not true of instable. Become a bit about you. Maybe just be a assembly about that and they have the electric components and software assembly better. I mean i'm not saying that things have changed on a lot of stuff that is happening within the lodge disease does not become what it is by becoming on people supplier. But i don't think that weekend we can say south that you know we had like a european country. Or a or your. Us back into their computational thinking dollar education system code darla takeaway for me is that derek. there's still hope and a lot of opportunity in software related. I d considering career or whether you want to shift and do something in the space. Yeah that you know you have to know what you want to do. Not what somebody else is doing and say we better be innovative and find you know something. That is missing zuid. Yeah you can't beat the clear and succeed in. can you can have the just. You can have the best solution. Let's say you have an hr lucien. We're going to have the best solution but then you much of the money. And the smartness beat the entrenched. Yeah yeah david. Plenty of opportunities. Plenty of there is enough gotteland available to do that. That's the question that needs to be fog out. Because for example it is a significant shortage in people who are really or digital marketing. If what your websites with the like all employees but it's a or composite package of digital word in bed jim. We need to embrace shorts. Bet that obviously a dentist it is. It is what's not swimming. That is not enough indian apertures relevant to nurture that. Yeah on that note seven. I think we have just enough time for this conversation. Many points that you said in themselves probably were in long discussions like you said you have a lot of stories about many of these things. We will probably catch up some other time gate for me. We thanks to talk for the music and vika for promoting the software people stories. It you liked missile. 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Zeits of the Old Republic 5/4: Cinco De Mayo, Kim Jong Un, Meteor Shower, Midnight Sun, Don Lemon,

The Daily Zeitgeist

11:46 min | 7 months ago

Zeits of the Old Republic 5/4: Cinco De Mayo, Kim Jong Un, Meteor Shower, Midnight Sun, Don Lemon,

"The? We're apart these days with sharing more so at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing you savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy haircut fails. Thanks for sharing your inner lip sync star. Now it's our turn to share with the GEICO. Give back the fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers, because we're committed for the long haul, the fifteen percent credit last full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash, give back for more INFO and eligibility. Luke Air Oh, I see wow! Look over their. Culture. Last. Saying Don Bosco Theresa's calling everyone. My name is not Roger. Hello everyone, my name is bone Yang and we're the hosts of the law school therese's podcast now on iheartradio and the big money players know we're now. You're probably saying what is this last coach racist podcast? Well I'll tell you. We are to homosexual. Best Friends who talk about pop culture with guests and we have segments Oud Galore so listen to Las, Culturas just on the iheartradio APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hello the Internet and welcome to this episode of Star Wars Sites of the old republic Game I'm very familiar with my name is Jack O'Brien. That's mild gray. May the fourth. Be With you mild. Thank you and also with you? Is Mercy endures forever. Does under his is all that good stuff? Thanks George Lucas indeed. Let's tell the people what's trending right now. A in honor of tomorrow. Cinco de Mayo is trending. Yeah, you, gotTa. Demayo plans now probably just going to go to some Mexican restaurants around town that I know are opening and try and. Patronized those businesses like there's a couple spots that are doing like just massive, Margarita Kit or something I mean prize for the weekend or something. But I think the articles that seem to be trending Tamayo have been a lot about being like what you know how you can have Cinco de Mayo in quarantine, and maybe patronize a local business at the same time and if you're a you usually like, go out to eat I. Go to my no absolutely not I have no I, don't I? Don't celebrate many holidays in general like you're not gonNA. Catch me out there for Saint Patrick's Day or anything like that, but I like food. And I, like the thing about quarantine like so many places just making it easy for you to like make good. Should at your house like we're just like? Hey, buy this kit where we've already done the hard bit by making all the food seasoned US December. So I'm loving kind of a PAN right right right and year. Here's Pan. It's already hot. Already hot. Just put it on your still, fuck. Do you want us to make this for you to take out? Actually Alright well shout out to site gang. Hope you guys are planning a safe and enjoyable sicko Demayo don't. Earn just running the streets. Yes. He's Kim. Jong he back. Soon is back and running in these streets. He a jog after. He's he is cutting a ribbon that release them. Balloons I believe is the video that I saw. He looks very large. He looks like like I. Can understand heart problems coming from this man, but he is back. He seems to be alive. Either that or there's some very impressive puppetry going on in Korea I'm worried for his sister though. I guess it's so hard to know what's going on. I mean like a lot of those rumors about him, even being gravely ill came from like defectors who are then like working in our part of the South Korean government now. I. Don't know it's just so hard to know what's going on there. Because they don't. It's completely hurts. Hermetically sealed off from the rest of the world. Basically, so hey, yeah, but good good for him. How old is Kim Jong Hoon anyway? I'm trying to look at this photo and be like based on what I'm looking at I. Think he's forty-seven. No He's thirty five. He's young. He's my. Bra Ping Wo. He just turned thirty. So what fuck? You just turned what he just turned thirty. We're born the same year eighty four. Y. Ou I. Mean Look I don't even. I don't even know if you're going to have any kind of take on Kim Jong UN anymore. That hasn't been set aside from Iowa. Game! Yeah, absolute power corrupts physically as well. Yeah. You think that maybe he was really ill, but watching the last dance has helped reinvigorate him because he's religiously a bulls fan. Huge fan tight with Roman. Right. Yeah, I don't know maybe that episode three brought him back from the brink. Right it. We also be seeing Dave situation. I mean. That's the thing that's. Interesting about North Korea's. He can never get close enough to fully. Vet Anything that's happening there so a one Kim. Jong came to power. We didn't even know who he was. We just had one picture of him and. Well anyways, Chadha to him just great to see him back up and. About. Meteor shower and midnight, Sun both trending. So I assumed there is some wild shit. Happening tonight turns out. The meteor shower is a celestial. Event happening in the night sky this evening, so look out for that. If you WANNA stay up and don't have to be up super early. A midnight Sun however is not happening your night sky. It's your bookshelves. A. Watch out. Now Staffing Myers? Has announced that there's a new twilight. Will come at. and. It is called midnight. Sun which. Seems Right. Do you know how that I'm completely ignorant of the twilight saga. Do! You know how it ends. No, no I don't even know how know what. Yes. I just know I kind of know what's going on. You're like team. Edward or team Wolf, Guy! Tyler Taylor whatever whatever what have you guys career? Haven't heard partner. So I'm like what's the sequel? Do they have kids? I Dunno look. This is what happens when people who know nothing about do it. I think Oh shit. Yeah they. They had kids in the last one I think she was pregnant and like the. Whole conflict was like whether she was going to be torn open by the baby because Vampire Oh. Dear, oh! Dear. Okay, why Shit while wild stuff! Coming. Yet, but I don't know the the writing on. I've read excerpts from the first twilight book and there's some bonkers writing in there. I just I suggest people check out some excerpts from yeah. I mean Daniel. Daniel just hit us with a wild. A little bit of Info that. All Team Jacob. WHO's The wolf? Dude was in love with the baby upon birth. Pond birth in love love with the baby out no man. This is because he's he's. He's connected to it way, so is that his child? Is supposed to be like a the prophecy, no see. So Daniel has given us a really confusing explanation about how. I'm just GONNA. Leave it at this, you know. When you when you? I duNno I duNNo, I duNno immoral is a twelve hundred. CAPE BECK and sales character tying all this. Is She Taylor mom. France yeah. Let's talk about Don Lemon. So a fake sounding name that sounds like it could be could have been written by Stephanie Myers Don and all. Yeah it, either sounds like it's David s Pumpkins Arch Nemesis Don Lemon. Don Lemon the CNN anchor. You know. He made some headlines because he addressed president. Trump pretty directly was sort of like. What is it about Obama that gets under your skin? Basically saying like he's because he's better than you and a lot of people like. Wow, Don Lemon's going in. and. That's about it, but I think what's really great is just listening to this clip. it because the Internet as you all know is undefeated in every fight it gets in. Someone has already cut. Don Lemon wearing like Godson or rather like? He's got his ether whole outfit on that GNAWS war. So this just check out. This is just hearing. 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The PreTrenders 5/5: Kurt Loder, Uber x Lyft, Sudafed, Kawasaki Disease

The Daily Zeitgeist

13:24 min | 7 months ago

The PreTrenders 5/5: Kurt Loder, Uber x Lyft, Sudafed, Kawasaki Disease

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Best Friends who talk about pop culture with guests, and we have segments Oud Galore, so listen to Las Culturas just on the iheartradio, APP Apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Pillow the Internet and welcome to this very special episode of the pre trendsetters courtesy of Johnny Davis Great Band I do truly enjoy me the pretenders. and. Learning, about. I don't know. I think the I I know what you're talking about like the plague. But there is a will. There is a I didn't realize there was a film the pretender James Sprint. Okay Okay Okay James. But the lead singer of that band was a student at Kent. State wound can stay down. And, they're like a couple of other pop culture luminaries who were students at Kent State when Kent State went down. I learned that on an episode of my favorite daily. Oh, yes, bless tell the people what is trending on this. Find Cinco de Mayo. Kurt loader is trending and he is. Not Dead not dead. Thank God. He did turn and this blew my mind. He turned seventy five today. That seems no I'd rather. This sounds really messed up, but I would have preferred to have found out that Kurt. Trending. Because he turned sixty five. I didn't want to death pawn Kurt loader, but is that really carbon dates? That's like one of those things. I really felt. They held my like pop culture. Memory up to like you know some whatever whatever they used to carbon date to see how old it is, and I'm like I. Am this many years old like? So when he was like doing all them TV news stuff in the. Eighties and nineties. He was late forties early fifties. Yeah, I don't know why I'm surprised because he was always like daddy on MTV like he was the. MTV I guess he looked good though. I this was the first time that I looked him up and looked at a picture and was like Oh. Yeah, he's. He's an age demand he he looks older. It's like hearing. It looks like he coach that you had in junior. High turned seventy five and you're like really. And you're like, but that year that tracks actually but I hadn't thought about that and okay, not looking at a picture of them, and it looks like that person with old age makeup on because. Uber and lifter trending. Have you heard about these things you see in these? Gus Seeing these things. Heard of lift not over though. Okay. So guber is. It's like this thing. It's like lift except the CEO is meaner so that that's kind of it. All travel. On now that rings, a bell that rings a bell and a bell. The bill that it rings is Assembly Bill Five which is basically a law that was passed in the state of California that said you know that these companies that have GIG. Workers need to reclassify these people as employees rather than independent contractors because they're saying look look, the whole thing is if you are controlling how your independent contractor. Contractor is doing task, or if the work that this independent contractor is routine as part of your business, than they are an employee, and because these companies have taken I mean there's just not complying what they've done is between Uber, lift and door Dash. They put together a ninety million dollar slush fund. Because this is how bills work to get another bill. signed into law. That would exempt to them. So. That's what they're trying to do. They're they're going to go. The old ballot initiative route which we love to see in these some some states have them. Where people be like Hey, man, do you want to you know? Sign up to help support a bill that will help keep Uber and lift drivers more freedom. I don't know how they're going to spin that to somebody like. To make me want to support that. But yeah. It seems like the way they're going to spend it as like. Yes, we paid these people like employees and give them health benefits, and all the things that were legally required to give them. If they are employees, then we wouldn't be able to be in business. Do you want Uber? And lift or do you not want uber in left to end trying to get people to vote out of their own self interest well I mean here's the thing and and I and I'll take this up with Governor Nusa myself if I have to treat these people. These independent contractors like employees that means I legally have to make less money. And that's the problem here. And the whole thing is there. Other argument is that our core businesses technology not rides? Yeah, yeah, every in clever very cool jazz very cool. sudafed is trending. So this is this is interesting. There's a there's a photograph of the President who apparently is donald trump. There's a photograph his desk. It's never shows. I can't fucking, but. This guy. Every time there's a so this is something we had heard tell of that. He was really into popping sudafed bagging today because it was like a stimulant, and he's good old blue-collar. He's not getting the Ritalin or the adderall, getting the Sudafed and just pop in the over the counter stuff. and. Apparently. That's true because there's a photograph that shows the not only is his desk. Just full of Sudafed, but it's full of Sudafed. From the UK. He has the imported sudafed because that is the sudafed. That hits harder. It hasn't because they don't have as big a math problem over there. They have not had to downgrade they're. They're fed. To have less ephedrine in it so I'm just looking on snoop's. because. It's one of the few places. I can still trust at times like this. What they're talking about a lot of the things that people point out about this photo like the. UK, Sudafed therefore. It's like hitting different things like that. It's not necessarily true. There are different ingredients, but to say that it somehow like combining differently that you're going to be like way higher is just false. So, I think a lot of people because everyone, it's very clear when trump is say on one. When he's up there, just doing a little nasal solo while talking at the same time I think it all these are all kind of like like everything. There's just enough pieces around to keep that that idea, yeah, going, but I think yeah, but it has a behavioral loans enough to me to pick her not. His sniffing the fact that there are stories of him having a adderall prescription the fact that he's a celebrity, so could easily get natural prescription and abuse it the behind the Chit, the behind the scene stories of him abusing adderall that doesn't. This does nothing to put me on and plus his behavior Also Hitler this isn't so. Famously famously but I think you know this. The reason it came up is because Cinco, de Mayo, and it was that famous trump tower tweet read the Taco Bell and got my Hispanics. Yay. I think it's just like now. People have were increasingly have had more and more time over the years to just. Micro analyze every single thing so now so the drawer. What's in the drawer trump? What's in the drawer man and then finally Kawasaki? Disease is trending. This is a story where where fifteen children in New York. City of developed a series of symptoms that may or may not be related to covid nineteen they are similar to something called Kawasaki disease or Kawasaki Syndrome where the symptoms includes like inflammation rash. inflamed is which is really. Doesn't sound very comfortable. Fever, abdominal pain rash, swollen lymph nodes inflammation in the eyes. and. I wanted to bring this up. Just because it does feel like I mean on tomorrow's episode. We talk with our guest about this rumor. That and I think it's actually being reported that there's like a new strain of covid nineteen. That's out there and it just seems like it's. We're still in this information dark age when it comes to A. Scientific facts that just seems like because of social media and because. Of the administration there were existing under right now. You know media and sh we have to. Pay attention and stuff like this and just not really know what is going on I. Think the sooner you know I think most people who listen to this show, probably on some level science, and the opinions of people who probably know more than they do on a given subject, but I think with this. You know at the very least someone we have to be able to accept that. We still know we don't know enough even about. About the disease to really feel safe again and like that's really where we're at I mean for all this talk of reopening like we're still we're. We're fighting blind here and like mutations happening other researchers like. Please look into this I'm this could be going on and it just it. It only confuses US I think for us as the people who are living through this. We have to know that a the people with the know how are. Furiously looking into how to make this right, but also that we have to just accept that this is the reality we have to live in until that technology can catch up with it otherwise this this. Yeah, yes, yeah, that's why I feel like. It's valuable to just be constantly honing your what your resources are. The the different places that you can trust for information because more and more frequently during this crisis where coming up against information that we. You have to verify whether it's true or not. It can be a life or death situation so. The one thing that certain is that PG I. Don't know so. Safe thing and don't let yourself at risk. That's just the most fundamental. Some risk your safety, your own safety or that of. alright miles. 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How To Think Faster, Make Better Decisions, And Perform Like A World-Class Fighter Pilot  Justin Hasard Lee (Ep. 258)

Elite Man Podcast

47:32 min | 11 months ago

How To Think Faster, Make Better Decisions, And Perform Like A World-Class Fighter Pilot Justin Hasard Lee (Ep. 258)

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I guess Middle Name or nickname that they give you hazard. It's pretty bad ass. What is that all about? Well we don't really divulge where that call sign came from but as I was telling you before all the pilots. They don't know my first name. They call me hazard and every once in a while. We'll have I named Fridays where we try to learn all the pilots first names because yeah we'll go. We'll go a decade knowing the same person without knowing their first name. Yeah it's pretty cool. I didn't know about walk call signs but When you mentioned it kind of rang a bell from the movie top Gun? They talk about that as well. So basically I mentioned a moment ago in the intro that you are a fighter pilot. How'd you get into that where you inspired by that movie by the way the top gun movie? I don't think you can not be inspired by that with at least in my generation but I wanted to be a firepower is that since I was five years old so I think I went to an airshow when I was young and I saw the thunderbirds fly and ever since then I've wanted to be the fighter pilot so I went to the Air Force Academy Support Your School from there went to pilot training and then from pilot training got selected to fly. F16's flu who have sixteen for six years and then transitioned over to the at thirty five. And now I'm stationed at Luke Air Force Base flying that thirty five teaching the next generation of fighter fighter pilots how to fly that aircraft. Nice man and what are you up to nowadays. You have A podcast I believe. The website is well. I mentioned a moment ago. What are some of the things that you're teaching people people how to do? Yeah so I started the podcast last year. It's been about exactly one year since I started it. And it's been a fun journey so it's called it professionals playbook available anywhere you find podcast but I interview professionals in different fields and we go over their successes their failures how they overcame those failures. What they do to perform at a high level and I've had a chance to talk with some really amazing people talked to Terry verts? Who is the International Space Station? Shing Commander Talk to you. Chad hennings three time super bowl player. Talk to Thunderbird one so the commander of the thunderbirds. So it's been a fun journey as I'm sure you know yeah. I'm sure there's a lot to that you've learned over the years which is why I wanted to bring you on. This show is well the talk about human performance decision decision making the mental toughness aspect to being a fighter pilot. Are these all the things that go along with the training of being a fighter pilot and just being in the air and doing you. You know some of the crazy shit that that we've come to know that these guys are capable of doing and yourself included. I think at the end of the day as fighter pilots. Our job is to make good a decision so when we go out and fly we'll spend we'll make thousands of decisions each flight and our job is to make many decisions as possible and keep them at at a high level so not all of them. Were going to be great. And that's where the mental toughness aspect comes into it by We try to keep them as as good as As good as they they can they can. Because if you make one bad decision when I was for instance in F sixteen we had six times. The C fit controlled flight into terrain that other jets had had and it was pilots miss prioritizing they were working their radar look in their targeting pod and ended up flying their aircraft into the ground and killing himself. So it's really important important to prioritize and make as many decisions as you can throughout the Saudi. A lot of people think that we just get handed the keys at thirty five and go fly I but we spent a lot of time preparing for that hour and fifteen hour and thirty minutes that we actually do fly the day before we will spend three hours mission. Planning coming coming up with exactly what we want to do. The day of will Show up two and half hours prior and we will go through all the contracts with all the people that are gonNA fly. Exactly what we're GONNA do. We'll fly again just for an hour. Fifteen hour and a half and then we'll come back and we'll spend two to six hours debriefing. Every single decision that was made and we'll spend ninety percent of the time on the ten percent of the story that didn't go well. And there's more to the debrief if you want me to elaborate operate on that but at the day were trying to get pilots who make good decisions. Yeah just talk for a moment about that debrief because that is pretty interesting and you spend ninety percent of your time. I'm in that debrief talking about the ten percent of the mistakes that you made. That's pretty interesting So we don't want to just pat ourselves on the back and talk about how well we did. It costs a lot of money to build these jets. A lot of money to fly these jets and it'd be nice if we could go out and fly every day but we typically fly two to three times a week and so we needed to make we need to learn as much as possible from each of these flights and there's three different types of errors that a pilot can make decision wise so they can and have a Erin perception so they perceive the world in incorrect way and usually that comes down to missing radio call. So they'll be a flight lead out out there and he or she will miss an important radio call of where a pop group. An enemy aircraft is and they'll proceed with their plan without knowing knowing that and ended up getting in a training environment. Shot down by that aircraft so misperception and that again comes down to prioritizing correctly. We don't want our pilots to be more than about ninety percent task saturated because once you hit on her percent you're not making decisions on what you drop off your just dropping off. Things haphazardly. Hardly so at ninety percent you need to start figuring out what you're going to drop because there's always more stuff to do than you actually have the ability to do so drop those his tax tasks off so you don't miss those important radio calls so that's the first one Error in perception next is a decision decision making error so we have a lot of plays essentially what we do in there. So it's like playing football and we all all these players so it's really important to study all these is place so that's nearly muscle memory when we actually execute these but if the pilot perceives the world correctly he or she may choose the incorrect correct play and so if that happens in the debrief will stop it and we'll see exactly what what they did wrong. What they should do in the future and then in the last mistake is an executioner so they perceive the world correctly? They chose the right tactic or play and then they ended up just screwing up so to keep with with a football analogy. The quarterback shows the correct receiver just over through it. So that usually manifests in using the switches in your jet incorrectly. So are you ended up not locking the correct guy or something like that or not taking a balanced shot and so we'll go through the MEK of exactly how to how to take that shot for next Eckstein. Nice how I mean. That's pretty interesting to like using the same process in real life. Have you used or have you helped. Other people used use this type of thing in like regular day decision making say at the office or you know in different communications different aspects of life by its very applicable. So I've had a lot of guests is on the podcast especially people that have associated with with fighter pilots for instance flight doctors. They've told me they've incorporated a lot of these Debriefing breathing lessons into what they do in the operating room. So analyzing what you're doing. I think it's easy to get caught up in the weeds and try to accomplish many tasks asks as possible but at some point throughout your day you need to take a thirty thousand foot view of what exactly is going on what I'm trying to do and how I can do that better. Is there a certain amount of time or say number of times that you go through training before you become a certain level level of proficient in this thing. Because if you're doing all this debriefing and looking back and then deciding you're spending ninety percent of that debrief going back and figuring out the mistakes that you made so you don't do them again next time. Is there a certain amount of times that you've noticed over the years. Did they tell you. You know your your trainers that it takes before you hit a certain level all of proficiency in this regard. I think you never feel like you're completely proficient. You're always working to get a little bit better for me. Transitioning I'm from the F sixteen to that thirty five. It took me about a year to start to feel comfortable with the jet when I started flying it. I knew what I wanted to do because I had that experience experience in the F sixteen but took took my hands about five seconds to actually do what I wanted to do. And we'll fly with closure rates says as fast as a model every three seconds. So it's really important to get that muscle memory down so you can spend more time thinking about exactly how to do your tactics and making sure you're you're executing correctly so I've been flying since two thousand ten so coming up. Yeah ten years I've been flying and there's still plenty for me to learn so it's one of those jobs where you're always trying to integrate always trying to get a little bit better for pilot training it takes about a year you start off in a t six which is high-performance prop plane. It's almost like a p fifty one mustang performance wise. Maybe a little bit less you spend six months. They're you're learning how to fly then you go and take those skills to the t thirty eight. So the t thirty eight supersonic jet trainer you. You Fly do everything you did in. and the T six and the thirty eight and then at the end of that A few people be selected to go and fly fighters since I was elected to fly. F16 You spent about nine months months to a year learning how to fly the F sixteen. And that's what I'm doing here. I'm training those new pilots coming in right out of pilot training. And then they'll go out up to the Combat Air Force where they'll actually be deployed and go to combat and from there they'll just be wingman so they they cannot lead anybody around all their their job is to do is to to listen to their flight lead. Who's WHO's leading the round and they'll fly in in two or four ships? And then after about two years of that that they will transition to become a flight lead where they are in charge of four people when they go out and fly and then about a year or two later they'll become an instructor pilot it where they can teach those young new pilots how to fly the Daf sixteen or that thirty-five. How fast did you say that the F Six F sixteen. You said three mile a mile per three seconds is at like seventeen hundred miles an hour or something like that. Yeah with closure rate so were flying about mach one and then enemy fighters flying about mach one point nine mock toward you so that translates to Amal every three seconds seconds. Wow what are some of the other ones that you mentioned like the training ones. Are they a lot slower. Yeah the T six. It's been a long time since I've flown that. But but I think maybe maybe about three hundred knots for the t six so it's a prop planes. So it'll fly. Maybe point five mach so half the half the speed of sound about half as fast as you're flying in an airliner t thirty eight. That plane was designed in the fifties and so it has really small engines. But in order for the engineers to make that thing goes supersonic. They had to make almost like a lawn dart. So very very aero-dynamics which means when you're actually trying to land it you're trying to land slowly and it lands very very quickly and they've had a lot of fatalities over the years with with student pilots. Learning how to land the t thirty eight because it doesn't have the power to be able to To pull up out of a stall when you're landing. Oh Wow so. There's less less room for mistake on that Yeah what's it like the top speed on that. I can't remember the top speed on that again. It's been probably about nine years since I've flown. That aircraft half a mock with what is a mock speed so mock is the speed of sound so if you ever see a lightning flash and then the sound a little bit after it mhm. That sound is traveling at the speed of sound so it depends on temperature but call it about six hundred miles an hour. Okay what what mock is and that's what we used to talk about. How fast aircraft go? Okay cool I mean these are all impressive speeds and it sounds like just trying to picture like what is that feeling like when you're inside out of the the fighter jet is like is it comparible to anything else like a super fast roller coaster or say Lake Flying Down Mountain. If you're snowboarding or riding motorcycles was there anything that's even comparable to it. It's a little bit like a rollercoaster so the biggest one of the biggest things we have to deal with our G forces so right. Now we're at one G so I weigh two hundred pounds at one G. And if you've ever been on a roller coaster were does a loop and kind of pushes your head down a little bit. That's about two and a half. Maybe three gs these will pull up to nine GS in these jets which is right on the limit of the human body and a lot of us. So that'll be at nine. And Jeez I way with my gear on over two thousand pounds over a ton just on my neck alone. It's one hundred thirty five pounds so think of Barbell and to forty forty five pound plights just on your neck when you're flying so we have a lot of pilots long-term that back and neck issues and so of physical therapists that work with us and try to keep our careers going going for a little bit longer but in the short term the biggest issue is blacking out so in the F16. We lost about one pilot a year every year over the last thirty years to a g induced loss of consciousness. So you're flying and that blood is being pulled into your arms and legs and if enough blood has pulled then you'll pass out and typically you'll be incapacitated for about thirty seconds at the speeds we fly will most likely impact the ground in about fifteen or twenty seconds so we've had a lot of pilots in depth dying from that and so we wear g suits and that helps to squeeze the blood back into our brain while also do a lot with human performance. So if you're just two percent dehydrated your g tolerance decreases by twenty percent so it's important to stay hydrated rated. It's important asleep while it's important to eat. Well it's important to work out your legs suborned cardio so he can push all that blood backup and and it's It just takes one time to go less than nine gs in the pull more for you to pass out and potentially kill yourself so all those things. Add Up so you might not. I have slept well the night before you might not have eaten. Well might be sore from workout right now. I could probably pull out guests maybe eleven or twelve GS. Jeez but each one of those will bring you down and it just takes one one time to end up killing you. So it's important to be able to do a good g strain to handle the the edged and after I fly if I look at my arms I'll have. It looks like chicken pox and that's blood beat pooling in my arms and actually bursting blood vessels. Jeez are something that doesn't translate really well. You won't see that in in top gun at least the first one. Yeah how mom how. How often can you go out on these flights? I got two questions. How often can you go out on a flight like this because it sounds like it takes a toll on you and then? How often are you able to stay in a high g GEE range for like say the nine up range? Is it just a couple of minutes or can you do that for an extended period. Yeah so we actual sometimes double turn so. We'll due to flights in one day typically. That's that's rare. We'll get about two to three flights a week but we can push it up to to do two flights in a day. So that's the answer to your first question for the second one. It just depends on on the speed. You enter the turn so if you enter the turn going Mach Mach one you can maintain that nine gs for a couple of minutes but typically your turn radius will increase quite a bit and we're trying to keep our turn radius short so we can in point are jet at the enemy fighter and engage them with a missile. So we'll be flying just under the speed of sound and with F sixteen you could sustain that for for about minner to the jet could And then in that thirty five. It's a little bit less but it really depends on the circumstances. If you really wanted you too you could get the jet sustain that for for a long time. So it's so you're doing two flights a day on average when you're when you're active and out there And how long are the flights in in totality each well. We'll do two to three flights a week so we it just depends on the schedule. It changes quite a Abed and also changes a lot. If you're in combat but for typical basis training schedule you'll fly two to three times. Maybe four times a week in the flights will be about an hour and a half so we burn a lot of gas typically were limited by the amount of gas that we have in that sixteen we only only carried internally about seven thousand pounds of gas and in Mac after burner I could burn fifty thousand pounds of gas an hour. So you can burn through all your Gas Very quickly. Which is why we try to emphasize fuel management to the to the young pilot so bow our half gas ltd in that thirty five we carry a a little bit more and sometimes it becomes airspace limited because we have so many jets trying to try trying to use the same airspace? Yeah is the gas burning up faster and a fighter jet than say a commercial airplane much much faster as much more performance to it. Yeah it's it's all about performance and then we have an afterburners afterburners soon after burner we have basically a regular jet engine on our jet and then we also have an after burner which is basically a flame thrower so it injects at gas extremely quick. So fifty thousand pounds of fuel on our can be injected into that sixteen engine and lit on fire. So it's not efficient pod. They'll get you that extra boost of thrust for a little bit. Yeah and go back to something. You mentioned a moment ago which was like. You're you're constantly working out. You're taking care of your body. You're getting your optimal sleep. Diet nutrition. hydration all that stuff when you're up in the air going through the movements movements and doing some of these crazy things that you do. Is it a conscious decision to move the blood flow to different parts of your body or to like fight off the effects of potentially passing out. and Are you aware of all this or is it just like all that stuff is done beforehand. So you're like unconscious. Mind can take control control of it and be at. Its best while you're doing it. Does that make sense. Yeah we're doing a G strain during high g maneuvers and. That's where you squeeze your calves thighs but abs you keep your upper body. Relax two-thirds of breath and you're squeezing that blood back in your head so okay so we'll do that while we're flying But in order to be able to sustain that over a long period of time That's when you have to work out and make sure you're hydrated and out here in Phoenix. The temperature can sometimes a hundred ten one hundred twenty degrees out. So you're already starting to get a little bit dehydrated. Once you get out to the jet. Do you have any food or liquid good to drink and stay hydrated during the flights or it's just like a tight space and there's nothing else you can really have in there so that's sixteen. There was basically a stripped down. Hot Right there is no extra fat in the F sixteen and so they're still enough for like a water bottle and when I was in Afghanistan I would we were doing four. were to Ford a occasionally eight hour flights in Afghanistan. And so you need to eat. You need to stay hydrated. Our in upbringing bringing some peanut butter and approaching shake in our kind of sip on that throughout the flight. And then I'd have a water bottle that our drink throughout the flight so that sixteen very little space and F thirty five has a little bit more space but still not very much with both jets. There'd be an instrument console right between my legs so you really can't move around very much and in fact especially F sixteen out. I would feel a little bit claustrophobic on the ground but once you got into the air. That's let's that's the jets natural element and we call it strapping the jet on our back so it almost you almost become one with the jet and so I can remember times when I wanted to Look to the right instead of actually turning out just turn the jet to look so once you're in there it doesn't feel too bad. Yeah that's pretty cool bill. It's Kinda reminds me of the motorcycle to you the one with the motorcycle when you're riding and if you wanna make attorney just kind of lean one way or another the so much more performance ormiston obviously a fighter jet. But it's kind of a I can. I can kind of sense what you're talking about so it's pretty cool man. What is the? What's the most exciting or or best part out of actually being in that and and being able to fly it? Is there anything that really sticks out. I would say for me. It's it's going out and successfully completing pleating emissions so we mostly talked about just what's happening in my cockpit but when we go out will be in charge of four aircraft. Usually usually we go to a red flag which is a big exercise. I've been in charge of seventy five aircraft flying and I really enjoy the mission planning aspect specs so you have objectives that you need to accomplish need to bring the team together and it's it's a lot of project management stuff trying to figure out a good plan going and executing that plan and and then that thirty-five our strength is our situation awareness so going from F sixteen which was a fourth generation fighter was designed in the seventies to the F thirty five. It's like going from a nineteen sixties corvette to a new tesla so a lot more capabilities a lot. More things that you can do and so we'll be the mission commanders. Typically out there and you're making smart audibles trying to figure out what's going on because each mission is going to go exactly according to plan so you need a mission. Commander be will make real time decisions and smart audibles throughout the mission to to achieve success so to me. It's making those strategic decisions while flying. That's that's what I get the most enjoyment out of. So what are some of those missions like you mentioned before you were in combat combat. What were some of the things that you had to do in combat and experienced yes so we were deployed to bog? Airbase Afghanistan We were the only fighter scorn in the country which means we are in charge of the entire battlefield in terms of fast cast. And we're doing twenty four ops so there's only due to ship of F16's airborne at any given time so if you're that flight lead you're in charge of nerve center. The fast cast out there and then sector defense James Mattis had taken over and he said he wanted all isis the Nile late it so the pace of operation jump through the roof once that happened. And we're pretty much cleaned the rails sales which means we're all our bombs every sortie so typically we were supporting the troops on the ground so There be a special operations force that was doing clearing operation. They might be ambushed and we would have to show up and and and determine where they were where the bad guys were and ended up dropping bombs on the bag. As so when you're up in the sky you communicating directly with the people on the ground like how does that work. And how do you know when and where to drop the bombs is there. I'm guessing radar thing but how does that actually look. Yeah so close air support it. It's very difficult to do even even today with all our technology. It's very tough to figure out where the good guys are where the bad guys are where the civilians are. And make sure you're taken out the bad guys without harming the other two so the primary method still is using the radio so we'll have radios and will show up typically in close air sport wheel about fifteen thousand feet will be flying a wheel around the the target or the even the friendliest depending on where the where they want us. And we'll be looking through our are targeting pod to try and find what's what's going on they'll usually give a grid which is a stake in the ground of where they want to look the Eh coordinates and then from there though. Talk US onto where the enemy fire is coming from. And this is coming from a J tack WHO's very experienced? This has done a lot of training because things look completely differently to the air as they do to the ground so they these guys are topnotch. They're out there in the mud. And for instance and we don't have color in our targeting pods so it'd be real easy for them to say. Hey bomb this blue roof building but we can't see that it's a blue roof and it looks a lot different from from the vantage point. So they'll talk us through where the enemy is. If it's real close to the friendly's it's called danger close so In Afghanistan I dropped probably about a dozen danger close weapons and that's where the the friendliest on the ground determined that the concentration and accuracy of the enemy fire is worth dropping a bomb that may injure themselves and so the ground commander will sign off on that and then we will roll in and we'll we'll drop our bombs in Afghanistan that was a mix of debut fifty fours which are combined. GPS LASER bombs five hundred pounds so About two or three times what a person ways and then. GP To thirty eight which are also five hundred pounds their GPS guided and then we were also dropping in GP thirty one which are two thousand pound bombs about the weight of a car. So we're dropping those pretty much. Where Johnson out Afghanistan's will drop that and then we'll get? Ah Let's see what the effects have happened on the ground and then if they're still enemy fire will go on for a really nice. So do you guys do any of the fighter. Jet Still have have ammo that they shoot out like some of the movies you see just like shooting each other and flying around and it's kind of like a gun on a plane. It's shooting off of the jet itself. Do any of them still have that others. Just all primarily bombs. Yeah just about all of them still have the gun so back in Vietnam they got rid of the gun with the F.. Four and that proved to be a mistake so almost all fighters have a some sort of gun. enough sixteen. We had a six barrel gatling gun and it could shoot and It's been been a couple years but I think six thousand rounds. A minute and Afghanistan is strafed Three times with the gun. So it's a twenty millimeter. A shell with high explosive incendiary in it so it doesn't have to hit the person to actually do damage assessments like a little mini grenade. So that's well we had sixteen and only and we carried five hundred ten rounds in that sixteen and at the speeds that we at the gun fired you could use up all your ammo and five seconds so pretty pretty formidable weapon that we still ended up using and in that thirty five we have a twenty five millimeter gun at sheets a a little bit less quickly. But we don't carry as many rounds so you could shoot off all year round and five seconds. It's out I mean you said six thousand shots shots per minute to but why would you wanNA use up all the rounds and five seconds. Isn't that kind of with net. Harm you if you need it again and say like a minute later it could but right based on the concentration of firepower so you don't get a whole lot of passes especially with F sixteen not a lot of gas so when you do get a good shot what you WANNA use pretty much as much of your AMMO as possible and we would typically train for three separate trigger rigors squeezes so you would be in a in a wheel and you'd roll an you'd squeeze off about a third of your ammo. You'd do a safe escape. You'd roll around and and do that three times. Total and burn up all your Mo.. Wow that is insane. How many rounds are fired off and that shorter time? How accurate accurate? Who are these bombs when you drop them they like? I don't know if this is true. Minded just been a total made up story but someone once told me that they have the capability. Now this is it's like maybe a decade ago so I'm guessing it would still apply now obviously but I don't even know if it was ever true but you could drop a bomb through like a chimney in somebody's house like that's how accurate the technology. He has gotten his at anywhere near remotely true. It depends on a lot of factors. But it's it's very accurate. I can't talk about this specifics. But just imagine strapping your your phone so if you opened up your apple maps you can see where you are pretty precisely so we have. GPS bombs that do that right and we have combined blazer bomb so it will go after your laser spot if you wanna move from where the GPS coordinates were mid air to where you're laser spot is right now. It just seems like that is insane but it just seems like with all with the speed that you're out and you know the winds and just the other natural literal factors of the bomb coming to the ground that it would be impossible to do something like that. How does that actually work to identify? The exact location is it. Is it pulling something from from the ground up and I just trying to like see that. In my mind's island and I just can't picture it. Yeah so we have a GPS AN INS as well in the jet and so we we know the exact coordinates of where we are. We fly with a targeting pod and as a laser range finder. So we know exactly where we are now. The targeting pod can figure Out exactly where we're looking at and so we can generate cornets from that and give it to the bomb or if it's a high value target maybe the intelligence community is following somebody and they can generate coordinates via drones or other things out there and give it to us and then we drop on those exact coordinates so there's a whole bunch of different ways to to drop our weapons which is why it takes a lot of studying every day. It's it's to go back to the sports analogy everyday. You're practising to get a little bit better and have more of these tools in your toolkit to be able to execute it because there are a lot of different ways to drop a lot of these different weapons and it. It's so much more lethal to be able to have actor weapons back in World War. Two they would need a drop thousands of bombs uh-huh because they were unguided dumb bombs they didn't have good target sites. So you need a whole fleet a b seventeen just to take out one factory in Vietnam. They ashore net because they had now better sites and then in the first Gulf War. That's when the first smart bombs came about. And then you saw the F.. One seventeens as those stealth fighters going in in the early nineties taking out weapons and it just progressed so now just a to ship of sixteen can be extremely lethal. That is awesome crazy. How far we've come with technology but it's so cool we're we're out with it? How many other fighter pilots out there? Are there like you. Who Do this kind of work? I'm sure like you said this. We don't need like so many of them anymore. Like we used to in the past. How many is are still around an act of so in the US? I I would say maybe about fifteen hundred. Don't don't quote me on that number. I don't know the exact amount because fighter pilots typically can do other our jobs as well so they may later in their career be pulled to a job at the Pentagon or they may be going to some sort of leadership school. So it's a little bit nebulous. Couple of years ago we were having pilots pulled to be allies on the ground. So air liaison officers so they are a little bit like those j. tax on the ground calling in airstrikes but they would kind of talk to the guys on the ground and tell them. This is what we do in there. This is our tactics. This is how you can best utilize has us so just because you are a fighter pilot in the career field doesn't mean you're actually flying a fighter jet so I feel very fortunate to have been in a frontline fighter my entire career I spent. Yeah the first bid and F sixteen and now Monette thirty-five So yeah I'd say maybe we fifteen hundred would be a rough estimate just kind of going back to what you talked about human performance in decision making. What are some of the skills that you've learned and now how plying your day to day life when you're not active and actually flying some of these planes and you just kind of walking around on the street? What are some of the skills that you now possess from all that training that use in just say regular life while I think going the opposite direction one thing? That really helped me out. Flying was meditating so I started meditating. full-time pretty much back in when I was deployed Afghanistan. The days are pretty stressful. I started meditating ten minutes every morning and that I was in two thousand sixteen and I've only missed one day since then so every morning. I start the day with ten minutes meditation and that that helps out quite quite a bit in stain in the present moment and that kind of goes back to when I was at the Air Force Academy I was a boxer and therefore Kademi is located in Colorado Springs which is right right near the Olympic training center and so they would have sports psychologists every once in a while. Come over and work with us on visuals. Ation self talk and staying in the present moment. So meditations one of those things that you have to do it consistently you have to do it all you have to do it at least I think five minutes a day by you. See benefits fits throughout your entire Entire up wrath of what you do so that that's helped out quite a bit For me and then I guess to answer your question a little bit more specifically prioritization so having been flying for about a decade in the Air Force Force. It's helped me to prioritize tasks very quickly and in the correct order so I would say that those are the the two takeaways it seems like the meditations huge. I've talked about that many times on the show as well. I meditated for like four months straight for a half an hour every day Mike towards the evening towards the end of the night and I've only missed in like the last six months. I've missed like two days. So I'm a huge meditate or myself and I only pick that up the last year era so I was kind of playing around with it at first and I got really into it just because there are so many benefits across the board but the prioritization thing is really important as well. I think especially especially with like entrepreneurs and people love our listeners. Entrepreneurs are people that are trying to start their own business and kind of do their own thing. The prioritization thing is something I think. A lot of people are missing these days and it's easy to get distracted. It's more easy to get distracted these days than it was five ten twenty years ago with all the social media the technology the smartphones the prioritization thing. Just kind of I think it puts the the biggest focus on front and center for you to do and then you can get down on the little things like every single day I create a list of what I WANNA do. And there's a couple of things at the very top of the list that I absolutely have to get done and then all the other things are stuff that I hope to get down honor that I have enough time. I'll get done but I think a lot of people lose focus and it's easy to get distracted. Just kind of focus on some of those outside things that aren't really that important and then the next thing you know your day's he's gone and you know you're wishing the next to do it and then you kind of keep putting it off. I completely agree with that. Especially when you're dealing with some sort of open ended job Bob for instance podcasting. I'm sure you've had this experience too. There's an unlimited amount of things you could do do this twenty four seven for years and not not accomplish everything that you want to do. So it's a lot tougher when you're entrepreneur or working on some sort of project like that and one of the things that's helped me is. I have have a a three task rule so in the morning when I wake up when the when the day is calm before I get pulled into the various fires. I will come up with three three things that I need to do for that day. That will make me satisfied. And if I do those three things then I can be happy with what I've done and I can spend time working out. I can can spend time with family more. I can spend time relaxing without feeling guilty. So the three tasks rule has helped me out quite a bit in terms terms of Being able to to slow down a little bit I. I'm probably like a lot of people. I can be a workaholic. And that's not not a good thing because as I go throughout the day my decision making insidiously becomes less and less good so it's not good to in my opinion to just work the whole day straight so coming up with those three tacit really prioritizes. What you have to do and if you do three things a day for three three hundred sixty five days you can get quite a bit done? Yeah that's very true. I'm the same way at work a holic. Sometimes I'll just get caught up in doing something and it's like I want to get this done and I'm looking at the time and it's just like Oh my God it's time has flown by and it's like I'm starting to lose sleep starting to cut into my sleep now. Got Like just tell myself to stop doing it because if I don't I'm probably going to get just a couple hours sleep and you know it's tough to do that for me to like I. I want to get things done. I WANNA engage. I want to finish it as fast as possible and I know it's something that I want to get done but it's it's a it's a balance of finding like you said that kind of You know one to turn things off and wanted to turn it on. And it's not good to just constantly work through the days you know like you mentioned before before I think having a two percent decrease in your performance can be or what was it do percent hydrated can lower your g tolerance by twenty percent. Yeah by twenty percent. Yes I mean that's just goes to show you like does this micro facts that if you delay them or put them off can have a huge impact in like your overall performance the macro performance. So what you're trying to get done so at the end of the day you got to kind of be conscious of of how things are going and how your body's actually performing do you find it difficult justin to you turn it off say from you know flying around the air going at these crazy speeds and just having like this very thrilling exciting life and then coming back to civilian life and just kind it being a normal guy like is it tough for you not to speed down the highway going buck. Twenty and in and out of traffic couldn't be like how do you. How do you factor that? How do you get that balance in your day to day? Life when you're just a regular civilian as opposed to flying in the air I kind of think of it at least for me. It's the opposite. I kind of get that all out there and then I can just relax and do something else throughout the rest of the day. So I'm not really at speed junkie. I I get that out at work and then I can come home and I can spend time with my family at my first kid on the way this this March so really excited to start being a dad so so for me. It's it's not too tough to to be able sir. I guess Sink those things up. Yeah I guess you're right it is like You know you have your balance as it is and you're getting your thrills out when you're up in the sky you don't need anymore them town here but Justin's been an awesome interview man. I really do appreciate it. What does it last sendoff takeaway message? You'd like to leave the elite men audience and then a play. Salish can check out your work. That's A. That's a tough one. I would say that if you have a goal design a plan around that based on my own experience and some guests that have been successful that have come on my podcast. They kind of balanced the dichotomy between having a vision having a goal that's way off in the distance being able to see what direction they have to March and then shutting that out looking down at their feet and it's left foot right foot and they're just doing that each day and moving towards that goal because it's easy to get imitated by by how far away that goal is so balancing the dichotomy of building a plan around where you need to go and then staying day today and executing that plan so that that'd be probably the biggest takeaway message that I would say and then you can find my podcast. It's called the professionals playbook and then I also do a lot on instagram and linked Dan at Justin fighter. Pilot Awesome Justin. Thanks for coming on man really appreciate it and No Guy's GonNa love us once we'll take care of him per share Justin. Thank you for having me on how. Here's the truth. 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Col. Chris Stricklin  Former Thunderbird Pilot

EAA's The Green Dot - An Aviation Podcast

56:13 min | 1 year ago

Col. Chris Stricklin Former Thunderbird Pilot

"Beat up your number one you've done big lingering dot com logan and welcome to the green dot e as podcast for anyone and everyone who loves aviation the Green Dot sponsored by Ge Aviation. I'm Tom Sharpen Tier government relations director here at EA. I'm one of your hosts hosts and across the table. I'm one of your other hosts. I'm Chris Henry e Aviation Museum Programs Coordinator and Chris do see Jomon sitting across from you. They're absolutely Lee as I always say. I love episodes. We have a coup guests with us. We certainly do today today. We have Colonel Chris Strickland with us Karl thank you for coming up and being with us. We really appreciate she hit. Thanks Chris. It's always a great time to be here at a and I appreciate spending time with you. Absolutely we'll tonight. We're recording this that we're reporting on a Friday here tonight. Something very special is happening and you're actually launching your book with us here tonight. I am and it's an honor to do that. With such a passionate crowd about aviation to launch a book about an incident that happened to me a while back and how my family dealt with it and what it means to us today well. It's really an honor for us to to be here with you and to do that. We'll get a little bit into the book and Events Around the book but you know I one of our favorite questions. We like to ask people as just. Where did it all start? How did you I I didn't flying? That's always the question that people in Aviation WanNa know is how did you get your inspiration to take to the skies and what we do every single day from me. Small Town Alabama Emma boy my dad worked in a quarry no military in my family and I decided to fly fifteenth and I went to my counselor and said Hey hey I want to go to the Air Force Academy I WANNA fly fifteens and and she looked at me and I would love to say she was supportive but she goes. What's the Air Force Academy and so from their seventeen year old me I got my car went and found a first term senator and said Hey sir I want to go to the Air Force Academy? We sponsor me up there and I had a saying hanging you know my wall my whole life and it was cut out of a magazine it was laminated. I looked at it every morning every night and it simply said like begins at Mach two and I always had it but I didn't you know where it came from. So as I started speaking writing a book I researched it and came from a magazine Article Net back in nineteen eighty six George Plumpton wrote in popular mechanics magazine and he had the opportunity to fly in an F. Eighteen and he did about a four page spread about how it was demanding on the pilot how what it was really like to be a fighter pilot but most most importantly at the end of the article he compared the F. Eighteen to a corvette and to a young child in Alabama. The corvette was something I really loved and I said that is compared to a corvette. That's what I WANNA do with my life. That's funny. It's funny that came from an Plumpton article man. That guy got to do everything I wonder how it compared to quarterbacking the lions yeah it's amazing to does. He understand how many people he inspired what he wrote about and it was it was a true non fighter pilot article about what it was like to be a fighter pilot and the demands that are on our body and what we go through in in it just made me go. I want that so from there you did you you did attend the the Air Force Academy I did. I went to the Air Force Academy about three weeks after graduation with fifteen hundred closest friends for four years of what I like to call all basic training the whole four years and wh what kind of experience was free kind of coming out of a small town in Colorado Springs was it. Was It kinda familiar to you you or was it a kind of a brief from drinking from a fire hose. It was drinking from a fire hose the whole time and I will tell you it is a lot of competition titian. Get in the Air Force Academy as you can imagine and when you take fifteen hundred young people that are coming as the top of their class and lock them in in one building on one campus. Guess what happens when fifteen hundred number ones get together. Fourteen hundred ninety nine of them aren't number one anymore so it was demanding both physically and mentally but there was also the challenge of being in college and such a High Level College at such a level of competition and it was a great I mean I say the freshman year there from he is one of the hardest years that I ever went through my childhood because there were so much adaptation to the new way of life and and getting through the Air Force Academy and the competition to be a pilot pilot coming out of there it was just it was an amazing experience that I wouldn't trade for anything in the world but even now after so many years I will admit that I love the Academy Kademi but I hated every day I was there if you know what I mean yeah that that makes a lot of sense the diesel have I know I still have dreams of being in a final exam Zama last sat for you know twenty years ago. Is that the same thing for you so that dream for me. If you remember a final final week we put all our finals in one week and we ate on base because it's a military and so we had a midnight meal that we lovingly called Scooby snacks. If you remember Scooby Doo Scooby always had scooby snacks so at midnight we would go out to get our scooby snacks and and about every night you would hear somebody goes screaming across the patio out there because they had hit that breaking point and somebody he's not getting his scooby snack. Ah Yeah so what was your progression of aircraft flew through training. How did that go so graduation? From the Air Force Academy I I went to pilot training and back then we went to the thirty seven so the tweet now they fly the t six so you do that for about six months I went to Euro NATO joint jet Pilot Training Senate Sheppard Air Force Base which is where we trained fighter pilots so after six months of t thirty seven training you get rank ordered and then you go into the thirty eight where you learned to fly a high speed jet you go supersonic for the first time learn to fly formation those type things and then coming out of the t thirty eight you get rank ordered and we have assignment midnight so you literally walk into a room with all of your instructors and your peers know spouses no friends though anybody they locked the door they walk up on stage and at the time they took a cheat off of a board that had you rank order from first to last and it was right there and start with number one you get up and walk to the board and they have magnets every airplane plane that was available to be picked and you walked up and pick the airplane you wanted. Put it by your name and you can imagine as you went down. The list got smaller and smaller so for me. I I got my first choice. The F fifteen went out of their to introduction to fighter fundamentals which is where we take the t thirty eight put a bomb on a gun side on it and we fight against the other to start getting those basic fighter type skills in and then I went off to the fifteen at Tyndall to the schoolhouse to get qualified in the fifteen then once once you get to your combat unit which was me was the thirty third fighter wing at Eglin Air Force Base. It takes about three months to finish and get certified before you're a combat ready pilot ready to deploy we overseas why so the F fifteen I mean that's a great airplane undefeated champion as we always say What was your first impression? When you get your dream you signed the fifteen? He got on the ramp at some point and you finally see the airplane. You'RE GONNA fly for the first time. What's that feeling like so if we could back it up a little bit because this happened at the Air Force Academy one of the benefits go in the Air Force Academy is we have an assignment one summer for three weeks to go out and shadow a unit and see the real air force? We call it is like for me happened to go to Tyndall Air Force Base so as a senior at the Air Force Academy I was able to get in an F. Fifteen and go fly for the first time before I graduated before I had the assignment before I'd been through pilot training and you can imagine the childhood sparkling is when I walk out and see that beast I it's the size of a tennis court for those that don't know it's about thirteen feet off the ground when you climb up and I'm just sitting there and admiration of this thing and we take off and when we airborne a home i Gosh I hate it. It is brutal it hurts and I landed exhausted. After a forty minute flight a pulling nine Jeez I mean and they didn't take it easy on me. They full up at a normal mission with me and I remember we went back into into the debrief room which has a lot of computers so it's kind of cool and about two minutes. It's in the debrief. I was not enough out of pure exhaustion. I was so tired and my instructor goes a just an incentive right for you. You can go and go if you want to and I left there going. Oh my Gosh Josh is my life's dream and it hurt. My whole body hurts. It's bigger than any workout I ever had and there was that moment of do I really want to do this and that's when I said Yep. This is what I WANNA do so that was my first flight before I went to pilot training. That's it's interesting first of all that that that's I'm definitely a lot cooler than I think any internships that we offer here I think we've got to step up our game a little bit but but I think we can all kind of identify with at least one or two things that we all kind of wanted to do but then we actually got to do it and you know. It wasn't quite what we thought it was. I think for a lot of people's probably learning learning to fly you know period but yeah so now you actually deployed with the fifteen right I did. I deployed with the fifteen with a young wife. My I married my high school sweetheart. We'd Heart We had a child while we're in pilot training about thirteen months after we got married and then shortly thereafter after having my son we had a daughter so you pitcher Eglin Glenn Airforce Base Young Newlyweds two kids and I deployed and I deployed to a classified location. I couldn't tell her where I was and I couldn't tell her when I was coming back back and that is the days before electronics as we know them today so from over there I got a fifteen minute. Call on combat phone every Sunday. That's the only interaction I had with her so it was pretty challenging in addition to be in my first combat deployment it was also challenging on the family side which I think in the military the family side and the support we get from them and how many times she had to be a single mom we have four kids now and so many times I just got off an assignment Afghanistan where I was gone for a year and she sang Lin four kids at home while overseas wearing combat gear and running convoys and that is one aspect of the military that I think we talk about the cool fly inside you know because it's cool but we don't talk about the backside of that with our families at supportive and allow us to do that yeah yeah definitely I'd notes I can't even imagine what what kind of stresses that is on a on a military family especially a young family like that yeah. We still look back on it today and go. What were we thinking? Can we have a son that's twenty three now and she goes. We had a kid and the kid on the way at that at that age you know the it's kind of like me go into the Air Force Academy what we had had going for us is we didn't know how hard it was. I didn't know how hard it was to go the F fifteen because nobody told me thankfully I think that's how I got there and we got married eleven days after I graduated the Air Force Academy and had kids right after that and we didn't know that as a young man that was no babysitters no family I mean you're really on your own with the now you have your military family and they're very supportive but it's just different and and we look back on that and go. It's awesome that we did it. But what were we thinking thinking that age walk us through your progression to the thunderbirds. I mean that's a dream for a lot of people had to be at some point on your radars well someone to tell you it wasn't it wasn't my dream. It never crossed my mind so I went to the fifteen did my combat Osama at Eglin Air Force Base and then after that I was fortunate to get pulled back to the schoolhouse to be an instructor in the fifteen and that is as a fighter pilot to teach at the schoolhouse house and being evaluated the schoolhouse I mean your influence in a whole generation and and that is that's awesome that was more than I could ever hope for and I'll tell you there is a there was a time we deployed down to Key West. I called a hardship tour. We went down to Key West because the navy was in town and we wanted to fight the F. Eighteens and I have this pitcher in my mind actually have a picture of it. We'll show later tonight and I pulled up over the islands down there and you see the contrails coming off the wings and I looked back over my shoulder ingo go. I'm twenty nine and I made it. I made my life dream of where I wanted to go and that sounds really good but I will tell you. There's a moment omen of what do I do now. I focused my whole life only being a combat instructor F fifteen pilot and I don't know what to do tomorrow when I wake up and I stumbled around for a few months love in the F fifteen love and instruct him but not knowing what the next steps were and I had a senior leader that I had been deployed with before and I think he just saw this his experience allowed him to know where I was and I can tell you what building I was in and what room it wasn't. He pulled me in a room and close the door and goes hey. What do you want to be? When you grow up? I said ironically I don't know that's the talk them having myself right now and he goes. Have you ever thought about being a thunderbird. He was a former thunderbird and no I never considered consider that and so he started mentoring me of what it meant and he goes. Hey I want you to go home and talk to -Tarian see what she thinks. How go talk to her? She's not doing anything with I go home at Dinner Gohei terror. What do you think you know? He said you know think about being a thunderbird and this is what it meant. She goes. That's about right. I kind of pitcher you doing that. Let's go do it and kind of like everything else. Okay I dropped few pounds. I trained for it. I put in a package and I was fortunate to get picked up my first year again not knowing that it usually takes people two to three years to get selected and I got picked up and went out there so here I am an evaluator pilot at the school house with fifteen perfectly comfortable with where I'm at and now I have to go learn to fly a different plane. It's not a center stick. It's a side stick. It's fly by wire. It's a half the size of the fifteen completely different mission. I had to go get combat certified so I had to drop bombs. Shoot the gun everything that you do in F sixteen training and I finally get qualified with it and I show up the Nellis Thinking I'm. I'm there right time to be a thunderbird. They go. That's awesome now. You have ninety seven flights to upgrade before we actually considered you at thunderbird so long syllabus in the Air Force we flew three times a day five days a week week for almost four months straight and they were all high g maneuvers they were exhausting because you're out on the range as you can imagine the show is precise because you practice you said that many times and so then as we do our check rides to get certified to go on the road. That's the first time we can wear a number and put our number in our name on our aircraft one of the things I have always been curious about with you know with the the major jet demonstration teams kind of how how does a how does practice how does working up those maneuvers actually work do you do you practice. The entire is I kind of envisioned. It almost like being in a almost almost like being in a band you know where you're practicing individual parts and then you kind of put the whole song together. Is that kind of how it works or is it or are you practicing kind of the show all up a lot so you nailed failed. You nailed it. We practice the parts and it's you know it's blind. It's part task training so in the beginning there's only one person qualified to do my maneuvers and it's the outgoing solo so we get in the two seater and we go out and practice maneuvers single ship we practice a single ship maneuvers and then after about a month of that then we practice the two Solos lows and the opposing work we call it where we started ten miles apart we pointed each other and hit show center at the within six hundred feet of each other and we literally do that aspect of training and fly separately for three months remember. I said it's a format training cycle so we do that no kidding for three months I remember we put we call it putting the diamond coming together. That's where we start flying the ship formation and we we put the diamond together at the end of January. Our check rides the beginning of March so we basically have one month the flying is a six ship and that is praxis six ship rolls and loops and all that and then we had about two weeks of practice in the show in its entirety but everybody had practiced their individual individual pieces their individual instruments so much that when we stood on stage together now it's beautiful music. Yeah Okay No. That's that's that's interesting so so you you you know maybe you'd spend some days probably practicing the same maneuver over and over and then you might do your entire your entire part of the show and then maybe maybe if there was something you wanted to go back to you might say okay. We'll pick it up from you. Know whatever this maneuver was that kind of thing so I'll give you one example. I'm not emotion sick. A person is a fighter Bob never been motion sick in my life except centrifuge training which is a whole different story and the only time I've almost gotten sick was on Aileron Emerald Day so if you think about the show there's one maneuver where Solo comes in low altitude pulls vertical at show center and does Aileron roll straight up until you can't see them anymore. Well Imagine Lauren Role Day. All I did was go out reset. Come in and do a straight up. Go out reset coming onto straight up and I don't remember I think it was about the ninety count somewhere round about there. I had to call a knock it off which for us is cease maneuvering. We gotta see what's going on and and I said team. I'm done for the day. I have to go land because I've done so many alarm roles that I can't take it anymore and that happened a lot when you're doing something. Your body's not used to like that like ninety roles. You have to get used to it. Yeah I think ninety unroll straight up into the Sky I think we I don't think we'll we'll blamed for that. I'll give you one more aspect we had to use two so the Solos routinely around negative three and a half cheese and that's something that most pilots do not like is negative gs especially especially fighter pilots. We don't like it but you realize when we roll upside down to set the lift Becker so that we're flying straight and level inverted you have to you have to push those above arises arises spike it before you can fly at sustained flight is negative one G so if you don't fly inverted for about a week the next time you fly at negative active Jeez you get a horrible headache it is it's something you have to condition your body to because it's not something that pilots are used to. We're used to positive GEEZ. We're not used to negative GS. We're trying to move the blood around our body to keep auction in our brain under positive Jeez the problem with negative Jesus forces all the blood. Your brain feels like your eyes are going to pop out you're really bloodshot and that's where the headache comes from but that's something we have to train to get used to flying around at those negative Jesus the accent because he had fighter maneuvers visually pulling positive role until you're you're wow so. was there a ceremony or anything when you actually like finish your flights and you become what they consider. A thunderbird is sir. Is there something that happens at that point. It's internal celebration because the team because it's a big day because realize of the six demonstration pilots there are no backup pilots only one person strained trained to fly every position and half the team new every year so of the six pilots three of them are new and so every year three new pilots get certified and and it's becoming a thunderbird we have a say once thunderbird thunderbird so it is an incredibly tight-knit organization. I still talk to my team. I talked to my crew chief this morning before I came in here and here it's been sixteen years. Since I was on the team you can imagine it's such a small community that we stay very tight so it's a very important day. When you get to wear your number for the first first time that's awesome? That's great so tell it can't tell us about your first. Show like what what was that like. You know your first show. I still remember it. We do our I show at Luke Air Force Base so we kind of go back to where we were trained that follow the F sixteen and we do our first show and my family drove down there. My wife was there and and I will tell tell you one thing we do is my wife for the first time get a lot of training behind the saints because when she traveled when the wife travels with a thunderbird or a husband travels with thunderbird as you can imagine when you're out there everybody wants to talk to her. As much they WANNA talk to the thunderbird the the other thing I'll say about the team and in one of those things that came out at the first show there is being a thunderbird has nothing to do with you. Nothing it has to do with the heritage aware in the show suits that you're wearing and the patch awareness awareness. She's like aviation. We talked about one of the squadron's coming in and the heritage of the squadron I had the good fortune to command is when we have out here on the floor and even when I complain commanded in Two Thousand Twelve I wore the same patch that they were so many years ago and that's one of the things that that everybody has realized that has nothing to do with you. It is all about the heritage of the air force and show off the air power the air force going forward but I remember that at Luke Air Force Base it's amazing the first time I was sneak past guy so if you've been do an air show we draw your attention to the diamond and they're all graceful doing their thing and then and then I sneak up and come by you at about point nine seven market at very low altitude and make you drop that fifteen thing dollar cokie just bought so that was the first time I saw the crowd and it was about a little bit over halfway through the show but you're so busy worried worried about that timing and hitting all the notes to make the music saying that was the first time that I really I mean I saw the crowd the whole time it's the first time that I had the fortune to stare with them and actually digest how big they were or how they were enjoying the show because it's amazing in about that ten to twelve seconds I came by I could literally get the feel of the audience the ants from the way they were looking up from show center and that was that was the moment that I always remember is my sneak pass. Whenever I came by went? There are a lot of people in they're all watching US right now. That's that's that's amazing. That's really cool absolute Tom. We feel like any time we go out to fly right. Oh yeah that's where there goes the RV that's pretty I say that every time I go to a demonstration I'm always like I will not get I will not get surprised ballistic passable surprise mistake and it's still happens. That's one of the reason I said they had to condition our families because my kids were really young yeah and what they love to do. They knew my routine by heart just like everybody else and so they would be out of show center watching and they would go. Where's that and they look over their shoulder and it would be amazing? You see a six sure old look over his shoulder in the middle of eighty. Five thousand people and it's like everybody else went. Oh what's coming you can't do that. They're giving me away. AWW So. What was it a tough schedule like on the road like what what's that like? aspect of like I'll tell you that was the one thing that I don't. I don't think I was any of us. Were prepared for it was two thousand and three was an anniversary season. It was the fiftieth anniversary of the thunderbirds. You know an anniversary. It's a big deal you you try to we were trying to do more shows to hit more locations. We were hitting two to three locations a week and the eight show months or we were on the road we average average two Wednesdays in Vegas with our families per month and you can imagine when you're on the road that much usually it was throwing my clothes in the Washer and catching up on my my sleep and in addition to that we got one midseason break where we got a week where we weren't on the road. We didn't go to work. It's just catch your breath and and you know your body's are are amazing amazing things and we all held up for the entire season on midseason break. I think we all got sick and it was like our bodies went. Okay I can let out everything I bone holding in for the last however many months and I think all of us were in our houses sleep in and getting out everything we had held up and magically at the the end of the week our bodies all pulled it back together and we went back on the road but but you think about this we we had three different colors show suits. We were a different color suit on certain days of the week so so we had to travel suit we had a Saturday Ceuta Sunday suit and the bad thing is that's kind of how we told what day it was honest so every Thursday a that they would put two two agendas on my desk for the next week or the next two weeks spent on hot was they have one for me and one for my wife and it told me where I was Goin' and where I would be who I would be with what I would be wearing and if she was accompanying may it would tell her what she's with. You know all that kind of stuff and it's just amazing you know it's two years ears and the beginning you go. Why is it only two years because I want to do this forever and at the end of first year you're going man? I don't know if I can hold out for another year. This is this is is exhausting for me for my family even though we're not in combat we're not overseas. You're never home my wife if you ask if I say something about when we lived in Vegas you'll see your Chris. She'll look at me and go you didn't live in Vegas. I lived in big something I know that we're going to touch on mm-hmm and to be honest it's something that Chris Unite Been Been Friends for few years here and we've never talked about up until last night an se injection uh-huh. Can you walk us through a little bit about about that day before we dive into that because you're right as long as we've been friends and we talk and text all the time we have. I've never we've never mentioned it and I appreciate that you'd never ask about it. that's very respectful and my feelings and even last night I had to kind of give you you permission and go anything you WANNA know. Let's talk to to the point that that my wife Karen actually was shocked to find out about these actions. I never even told her right so sitting on on the couch in his house last night she goes so I will tell you roll the video that's how she found out have away that when I presented I roll a video and Kijima up. You're all excited about being behind the scenes at the thunderbirds and and not to give away the punch but I said let's go in the cockpit. I show you my head video. Enroll out. I show you my takeoff and and you're the audience is always on the edge of their seats. Let's go this is going to be awesome and all of a sudden you see me a check from the aircraft. The screen goes blank and I thought she was going to fall off the couch and she actually raised her voice to me so what happened and I looked at Chris and he goes. I never told her so but I appreciate that and the reason is thirteen years I was in the air force after the incident and I never talked about it. It was it was traumatic in my life so for those that don't know in my opening maneuver is a Max time for this. I'm the last thunderbird to take off. I take off go straight up flip over on my back and do a split s to go back the way I came and in Mountain Home Idaho on a Sunday afternoon. I had a flight that was twenty five point twenty five seconds long from the time I lifted off the runway till the explosion the ground was twenty five point twenty five seconds long and and and you can imagine it's pretty traumatic. the air force way of telling a spouse that something has happened is by putting to people in uniform and driving up to the house. Everybody knows that every military spouses are scared of that situation will because it happened in public and the commander knew it was gonna hit National News News he made the decision to have somebody call my wife and and it was pure intentions I mean he really was trying to do the good thing but it goes to communication Shen and what you say does not matter all that matters is what the person here's an in in the book you details it but basically my wife I've heard that crash and I didn't make it and so you can think about that when they she hears that it's pretty traumatic for her as well as May so for thirteen years we ignore it. We didn't talk about it literally at all. It didn't come up and came up in one short blurb but that's it. We didn't acknowledge it if if the show show that was on the TV Jumanji was on the TV whenever she got the call literally if I'm flipping channels and Jumanji comes on the only thing we talk about the crass she'll go turn it off and I don't ask I know what she means. I turn it off so that's part of. I didn't talk about it so you can read about it. In the book there were some things happened in my last year of the military where my anxiety got so high overflying and how I dealt with this and how I'd been quietly we call him. The invisible wounds right how I was dealing dealing with this without talking to anybody include my wife who I talked about everything and the way I like to say it is all of these things have been locked up in a closet and wants to closet door cracked a little bit. I couldn't get it back closed and it was hard to deal with and coming through that I was with my co author. is also an F. Fifteen fighter pilot and I was I was consulting with consulting consulting firm not the other way so we were traveling together all all the time and he would talk about his cancer so he was loving life as a fighter pilot and he went into the doctor with pain and they diagnosed him with the stage four of a rare kind of cancer and gave him a fifteen percent chance to live and five years fifteen percent and so you can imagine he went through all that much different than my trauma was instantaneous. It happened his the diagnosis treatment recovery by the way it was nine years ago. He went on to run in a triathlon run in an iron man Dan he competed in American Ninja Warrior twice and as we were talking we went you know a lot of people in the military you go to combat and you come back and other people don't you survive a crash rash and you know that friends of yours a couple years after I had my objection unfortunately thunderbird a blue angels' six in the exact same maneuver ejected from the server a split second after I did and he didn't survive so for us you know he had cancer people he was in treatment with that didn't survive the treatment and and we said we don't we're not remorseful for surviving. We feel that we were given tomorrow. When so many people weren't so we call it our survivor's obligation it's our obligation to live every day due to the fullest and to earn the right for a new tomorrow for a new sunrise and so we're talking about this and we go we think we can write a book and help a lot of people and in the beginning we go yeah but neither one of us want to talk about it? It hurts and Chris can tell you last night. There are certain times I will tell you sitting on his couch. Last night is the most open my wife and I told you this has ever been talking about the crash and I love that because every time I tell my story I stand up on stage and tell my story and I don't want to sound bad but this for me and my wife because every time I tell it I can get through more of it and it helps us he'll and when I found with the book is when I show when a fighter fighter pilot to fighter pilot show vulnerability of hey we went through some trauma and here's how we dealt with an and here's how hard it was to deal with it I it's. It's amazing how many people open up and go let me tell you what happened to me. Let me let me tell you about the trauma in my life and you don't have to be diagnosed with cancer object from an aircraft. It's it's divorce. I it's losing a job. It's losing a loved one. These are all traumas in her life and when you look at it each and every one of us have a trauma we do but how we deal with it. It's the old tim percent of what happens. Our life is ten percent of what happens to us and ninety percent how we react to this is our choice of how we react to. It and we said we're going to take one of the worst things that happened happened in each of our lives and we're GonNa make a good come out of it Chris. You and I are going to stand on stage at night. It is going to be extremely painful. I told you before writing. The book was more or painful for me and my wife than the ejection was because I had to put her in a room. I had to make her watch the videos again and listen to the audio again and it forced us. The first time I talked about my story was a friend of mine who put me on contract to Teluk keynote to his group and he also put my wife in the contract I asked him too because if she wasn't legally bound to be there. I knew she wasn't going to be there and the journey for us for her to be in the audience and not break down and guess what if my wife of twenty five years breaks down. You're not gonNA keep me from breaking down and so for us to rehearse that also was dealing with and that's what the book is about is how do we you deal with trauma. How do we grow from it and what does it? What do we make it mean? There's a lot to follow up with their extra. Sure the the one of the things I wanNA point up when we talk about the ejection and we saw last night in something I really things worth talking about is the specs that the company who make the seat what they put out about the survivability of your ejection action so pilots that sit in injection say no the ejection enveloped by heart the parameters with which we have the greatest chance of survival now realize one of the things I found doubt is an ejection seat company telling you you have a high chance of survival means that you leave the aircraft alive not what I want it to mean as you leave the incident alive and so as you look at those parameters on the aces to seat in the F sixteen I had at the time my ejection although there's a picture out there many of you have probably seen it looks like the aircraft's level but if you look everything's dug in it was over eight thousand feet per minute straight now riding the elevator. It's fallen all and out of the sky. It's not going forward as fast as is going down and those parameters were so far outside the envelope that the election seed company came back and said it was unsurvivable the Bible they ran the parameters of the entire objection of the entire maneuver and they said every bit of the move or after I rolled inverted and pulled was unsurvivable but the best best chance of survival was in one half second window at the bottom of maneuver and what they also found is the training that I'd had for so many years in the air force allow allow me to split that right down the middle think about that a one half second window with a highest chance of survivability which they still say zero and I split it right down the middle after I objected from an unsurvivable objection I know swings in a parachute. I did a pull. The handles one hundred and forty feet left aircraft at forty feet one half second before explosion. If you see the pictures you'll see the opening shock happens to stop my Ford Momentum. Most of the damage happened to the left side of my body because it was my left leg low and as I swung down underneath the parachute I was so low that hit the ground fighter pilots all pilots in an air force are trained to do a parachute landing fall to help dissipate the energy of how hard you hit at the ground well it turns out had so much adrenaline going that I stuck the Landon I landed on my feet and they did the calculations on it and they said it was was equivalent to jumping off of a three story roof and landed on your feet two and a half inches shorter today which after being a a lab person and having a think every doctor during the world look at the the official terminology is there's not two and a half inches of cartilage in your body so that's not possible in true fighter pilot fashion. I always looked at my doctors and said I understand stained. You say it's not possible but I'm two and a half inches shorter and the reason they say that is because there's not more than two and a half inches of cartilage in your body after that compresses it's bone on bone shatter the bones in your body. I didn't break a single bone and I landed in the fireball so no kidding the explosion I landed in the fireball in such a state of Jacques that I couldn't see the fire couldn't spill the flames and the reason I survived is because my survival kit which deploys off of my parachute actually hit the ground before I did and sprayed ten foot circle in the burning and put the fire extinguish the fire in a ten foot circle and I landed right in the middle of that template circle so as I tell you that I'm camp Chris. I'm breaking a sweat right. You're looking at you. Tell the story and and you know we tell the story tonight so but there are so many unsurvivable not possible that you go my my pain and what I was dealing with was not why did it happen. Why did it happen now? Why did it happen to me? Those are the things we ask ourselves by the way you do not ask stat of yourself. If something good happens think about you never go. I got a pay raise at work. Why did that happen to me? No you go. I am awesome. Eh It's only the bad things you. Why did it happen to me but for me you know I had an a thousand page document from the Air Force dealing telling the incident so I knew a lot of those answers in their my pain and my trauma was wanted? I survived obviously something that I'm supposed to do that haven't done yet and every day I would go. Was it today. Did I do it or did I mess it up right. Think about the the weight on your shoulders of what am I supposed supposed to do and am I going to be ready and and that's where the survivor's obligation is. You gotta be ready for every day because you never know when you're going to impact somebody else. We talked about this last night. With what do you do with your with your warplane and all the people that you're getting the climb up in it and change in their lives Chris. Think about every person you touch and the reason you're here might be for one of those people. The reason I survive might be for one interaction that I talk to help somebody through. PTSD through their trauma helped somebody that's in need you never know I know and we will never know. I truly believe we may never know exactly why we're here on this earth but it gives me chills to think about that because ago is today the day is this podcast. Are we gonNA reach somebody. That's GonNa this resonates with me. That's why we wrote. The book is because I'll tell you my story although painful and emotional if it helps each person that reads it it's worth me break in a sweat telling you this story for what it might help others and and we should all think about that in every every one of our roles in our lives in in our family and our community it's amazing burden to carry for each of us if we're truly living it out and making the most of every single day this I guess this. This next question seems in light of that seems maybe a little bit pedantic but I I do uh I I am genuinely curious. so if you take us back and for those of you who are who are listening to may not have been familiar with it I obviously this is the there's there's very very famous picture of you leaving the aircraft it will probably be posted you know in in connection with this podcast when we when we put it online and and you know so you know you objected coming out of the bottom of that split us just before the aircraft hit the ground at what point did you you know that you are going to be leaving the aircraft when I rolled burden pulled okay so as the maneuver I rolled inverted pulled and and what we had been trained is one of the famous things thunderbirds is we always say trust your numbers because you are so far outside your comfort zone when you start flying those maneuvers you're outside the F16 Zick saint envelope in certain areas and so we always say trust your numbers no matter what you do trust your numbers and what they taught me in training season was once I rolled inverted and Doug in once I started the nose track and below the horizon I was so low that I couldn unload rollout and recovered hit the ground and so I- rolled inverted pulled in writing the nose tracked through the horizon and I was committed to go through the rest of maneuver I went this doesn't work. This doesn't look right. You know I've flown this almost three hundred times and everything is visual realize we're flying some of the most high tech aircraft in the world and nothing we are using except for looking outside in an analog stop. Watch that's it so so I start to pull Nago. I need to abort and I go I can't I can't safety aboard Safety Observer. If I was low should call my board he didn't so I go okay. Trust the number. So I got a role I can aboard a half the pull through and so I think about Ejecta I decided not to and I pulled through the vertical as I'm pointing straight down just over a thousand feet I go okay. I there is no way I'm GonNa make it through the bottom of this thing. I've got to reject realize I'm pointed straight the ground and as I think about ejected I go back to that ejection envelope and go. I am so far outside of parameters. I'm not even GONNA get parachute before I hit the ground because of my downward momentum and ride is I really consider injecting Outta my peripheral vision at at the top right and my canopy. I see the crowd now. The flight was twenty five point twenty five seconds long thing what you do in twenty five seconds she take a drink of the coffee sitting in front of us but for me it was over three hours long temporal illusion temporal distortion that no kidding made time almost up so I remember looking out at the crowd look at their faces I can see it in my mind and thinking I can't risk saving myself and jeopardize people watching the show and so I have the control tower to my left the show line to the right where all the people aren't so I decided not to eject and I rotate the aircraft away from the crowd so that when it hits the ground at a role kind of between him and and I go it's kind of like being a thunderbird when I said it's not about you. It's about the suit nothing I'm telling you. I don't want you to think it's because it was me. This is what the training in our military put in so people always ask me Ma'am was that were you amped up whereas it were you worried and I go it was the most calm I was is in my entire life for the entire flight because my training had led me I had already made those decisions chair flying right. We're in aviation. We Cherif like like everything I I had already been through this so many times in my mind I had mentally flown every maneuver with every aboard everything that could go wrong and I knew my follow on actions so that I was on autopilot going. This is what I do so using credibly com so- I rotate away I keep pulling in all of a sudden get ground rush as pilots. No there is a certain ground rush out of your peripheral vision where you go. I'm about to touchdown. It happens on landing intentionally the gears down. We touched down the right place but you still get ground rush so for me that was at one hundred forty defeat. It turns out and I'll tell you this is my wife hates it when I tell it this way but I go. I'm I have my flying ham. which my right hand I think about got it and I go? I'm not adjusted. Captain Goes Down with the ship right. I'M A fighter pilot. Took this plane off and I'm taking it back or I'm not going back and that sounds cold but that's training you. Do everything everything you can say. The aircraft and I made the conscious decision so the other thing people ask me as how is it to make the decision to inject and I I don't know I never have because what happened is as I make the decision not to checked. I slowly watch the canopy. Come off my aircraft. I watched the rockets fire. That's taken away from the aircraft and I go aw wise aircraft doing this well either jettison the canopy are I objected and I literally look down at my jetson handle in. It's still where it should be. I go. I didn't jettison the canopy canopy and at that point if you there's a video out there if you watch it you'll see my left shoulder moved three times three times. I told you about ejecting and you'll see my head. Look down into my lap. That's because I'm trying to figure out why the canopies coming off my jet and as I looked down I realized that my left hand my family hand. As I call it has pulled the handle and it's in the middle of my chest best because my left hand said hey fighter pilot hand. You think you want to stick with this but you can't do that to Terry you have to try and at that point I had the projection handle realized thunderbirds solos fly with negative full negative tram so if I let go of the stick it is GonNa do a negative three and a half tuck and hit the ground immediately so I jet with one hand like I am not supposed to because I have to keep flying as I see the handle up in my chest I literally shoved back in my seat. Remember it's reclined at thirty degrees. That's why the F. sixteens design. I take my right hand. Throw it over my left and shoved back in the seat so that I don't lose any lambs as I go out into the jet stream so that is what the and now the next frame in my mind. I didn't lose consciousness on justness but my mind doesn't. I don't think my mind thinks I can handle everything in between so I go from the frame where I went up the rails to stand in on the ground. I don't remember landing. I don't remember anything I remember standing on the ground. Men My Mike Carts Russia for sitting in a nice safe studio and wow how was let let me ask you this going forward. Do you remember the first time you saw barry after all of it I do. I do you so remember. I said I was two and a half inch shorter. I married my high school sweetheart. We've been together forever. I don't remember life without Terry but there's one thing I didn't know and I'll tell you when she ran up to hug me so she comes up to hug me. We're both standing up and I remember that moment a hugger in I think she got taller. Well it turns out when you've been hugging somebody for that many years you know exactly where you're faces a lot. You know that you fit like a glove and I literally step back back and I remember she goes. What are you doing? You know in that loving wifely Ya crazy experience yes. Yes you heard some of that. I I step back and I go to the hospital and she goes what I go taken to the hospital and I explained to her on the way over there what I was thinking and I walked in and I and as you can imagine the hospital new me I had been there every day since he ejection and I walk in and I go team. I want you to measure my hype when all the wisdom of the Air Force. What do you think the first question is? When you say measure my I'll go gotTA? Tell me and I go. That's the problem you've been doing this for years measuring my height and get up there and she goes. You're five eight and I go open my record. Write that in place I said I'm two and a half inches shorter and she goes you know everybody's like now. The whole I think the whole hospitals at watching now and she goes there's no way and she opens my record. In for the past nine years in my life I've been five ten and a half and it took hugging my wife to realize that because it realized I left the I left the site in a helicopter author right to go into a trauma center on backboard so so when I was intake into the hospital in took they measure my height needless to say and it took hugging my wife to know and to this day so so fast forward when I was going through this two and a half years ago I was telling the story to my doctor who's now one of my best friends and I tell them to. The good thing is I've gotten all of that height back and he looks at me as supportive friend the is and he goes you're crazy. You didn't get anything back and I go look at my record now every time. How am I coming to ask me how tall I am and I say five ten and a half and he goes get up and he takes me down the hall puts me on and he goes five eight? You didn't get it back. You're never going to get back. Wow that's actually kind of funny that they didn't. They didn't figure that one out with your work up after the ejection because every ejection story I've heard that's always figures figures prominently that you know you lose a little bit of heighten on the ejection but it will. I spent about the next I don't know exactly maybe eleven hours on a backboard strapped down and N. there's a whole story I mean I was bleeding not about the ears. They thought I'd rip the ejection at my heart. I guess there's a muscled holds your heart place and it's a pretty heavy organ so if you leave the aircraft craft at whatever it is thirty forty gees you your heart can stay still in your body moves around so I mean I've I've there was one moment in there I had these two doctors specialists and they were awesome awesome but I call him standing outside the magic curtain because pitcher me laying on the bed on a backboard and they're out there talking about you know bleeding here and and this and that and I go hey guys it's only a curtain between me and you can hear you come back in here and talk about it in front of me because the magic curtain is not soundproof but at the the end of that it was about one o'clock in the morning and and I was in Boise Idaho and the doctor comes in and goes while I recommend you do this very slowly and very carefully but it it turns out nothing's broken and I'm GonNa let you walk out of here and he comes in unstrapped me from the backboard and he helps me up and literally. I walked out of the hospital when you when you say about sorry to dwell on this is just a I'm curious when when you were talking about being shorter and and all that the violence of the ejection does deceit actually fire harder when it's when it's in that wealth actually outside of its envelope but that far I think the seat always fires the same okay what happens is once you lead the aircraft then the rockets are doing magic to get you right side up because you can convert and the seat will actually turn around and get you away from the ground but rocket is a rocket it. I think it fires there's at one speed is just directional. Ah Pao turned you around and and most of mine didn't happen on the way out of the aircraft mine happened on the landing. Okay Okay Yeah because you were coming down or at least that's what the building right yeah yeah wow. This is a this is incredible and I I really honored hundred that you're going to be launching the book here with us. also want to say a kind word to not just terry but to to all the the significant ignificant others family friends who support those who serve because you're story is certainly a great example of that. There's a a support network for each person that serves military there is an and it goes back to me telling you the book was hardest thing and I'll tell you we have one of those moments that I didn't see come and after the Arthur coffees arrived at my house I had a couple of my truck and and we were go into camp with my family and I look in the back seat in my daughter has put took one out of the pocket on the seat my sixteen year old in his reading one of the books. I didn't think he'd think about it right. She lived through it. She knows she didn't let their we adopted her after after my direction so she reads a book and and it's amazing that's all she wanted to Kim was read the book and the same thing can happen with Joel. He sat down with his his children and read the book with him on the back porch so so I talk to her she's going through and it's amazing that she knows a story because it's in our family but it was a perspective of what happened that she had never heard me talk about and so it was an incredible family moment because it made us closer because now oh she knows everything from my perspective not just how it impacted our family but that is all of our traumas is not just about the person that goes through the trauma we talked about one situation situation last night Chris where where somebody had thought an air traffic controller had thought an aircraft crashed and they put him in a room they had him write his statement up before he found out what happened to the crew and and luckily he finds out that everybody survived on that plane but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter because his mind in my wife's life's mind the fact that I survived is pretty awesome but the trauma she went through real quick if I could so one of the things spider politician not supposed to do is called their wife whenever something happens because you think about that and you go. Why couldn't you call your life wife because if nine fighter pilots call their wives and there's ten wives you just highlighted who didn't make it back so it's one of those things but after I found out thunderbird one came in the hospital and told me he called here he had had somebody called Terry and Wyan in? I don't disagree with that but at that point I'm waiting on the helicopter to spin up there waiting to take me to the trauma center and they go. Is there anything thing you can do in a yeah. No I'm not supposed to but I need to call my wife because she needs to hear my voice because the air force telling her I'm okay nothing against the air force but spouses prices are going to assume that just is them delay until they get somebody to the house and so he pitcher this up got fifteen twenty people in a room and everybody flips out their cell phones. The towers are overwhelmed. We can't get a line out and the youngest guy in the room. The youngest airman in the room goes Sarah Gotcha and he picks up the phone the hardline phone and goes Anina mercy breakthrough her and he literally had an was back in the days of the operator not to take myself too much but he literally gets an emergency breakthrough to get my wife on the phone and if you read the book I think put a little bit about this terry hates it when I tell the story of she yelled at me so bad and I can hear all the emotion coming out and I could hear hot win and she it was just so excited to talk to me and it was just that moment of here mobile because that's how you know somebody's alive if if you hear their voice and that was one of those moments and finally Ed say Babe I gotta I gotTa go get on a helicopter. I'll call you when I can join you to hear my voice and it's the trauma that she went through that. My kids went through and and that is what talking talking about military people. Is You know when you're overseas doing what you do doing. What the military does you forget what you're doing to the families back home? When I was running convoys in my last assignment I was outside the wire in full combat gear all the time and if I could one quick story on that is one of the captains that worked for me work with me I had had the good fortune to meet his his wife? After we got back from Afghanistan was having dinner at their house and we were talking about com because we're both pilots but we're working with the army run COMBOS and his wife looks at me and goes. I never worried I never worried about him running convoys because I knew you guys were together and that's that is what made me sleep boquet as okay as a spouse can when that's going on but it's amazing. What our families do? I mean my family moved eighteen thousand twenty three years. My oldest two kids did eleven schools in twelve years. Wow that's incredible so you touched on it briefly but and we're we've been having such an amazing discussion. We are Kinda running along here but I did want to touch on his What was your you you mentioned the you're in the in the air force for more than a decade afterwards towards what what did you what did you go onto in the air force afterwards so it was in the Air Force twenty three years in three months because most people can tell you exactly how long so after I left the after left thunderbirds I flew at the aggressor squadron at Nellis for a little while which is an amazing squadron with an amazing mission my family family? We needed a break so we went to the Pentagon worked at the Pentagon for about two years which was phenomenal. I was a pilot peripheral manager. R. Rated assets are pilots navigators. Everybody's rate in the the Air Force's eight hundred and forty billion dollars worth of assets and and I had a chance to work for the two store in and manage that which is a pretty amazing place and after I left there I went to Turkey as a combat zone and worked in NATO job over there came out of there went to school. I did Squadron Command Chris and I were talking about this. One of the aircraft they have here in their hangar was a heritage in my squadron. The forty-ninth after Squadron Commander went school again. I did a my Afghanistan tour I- looted to put on colonel. I went over there in a NATO air. Training Command Afghanistan teaching the Afghan Air Force standing ended up teaching helicopters and Cessna's which was an amazing assignment but it was a year away from the family and it was a year on on the streets of Afghanistan came out of there and went to a bill air force base whereas Vice Wing Commander for all the high altitude reconnaissance and that's where Chris and I met actually the Air Force asked Sameday come out to Oshkosh to air venture to give the first keynote about reconnaissance aircraft because we're kind of touchy about that in the Air Force. We don't like to talk about it and so I'm sitting in California when day and I am I public affairs officer walks in and she goes hey sir I got a good speaking engagement for you. She goes some guy from Oshkosh called and got it approved by the Air Force for us to give keynote on our reconnaissance aircraft. You might going out and doing that and Kristen. I've laughed about this. Of How in the world did you get the Air Force to bite off on this and he goes. I just looked up a phone number and called all we can do tell me now and so that's where we met so many years ago when I retired out of there and went on into what it's not retirement from the air force. I think that's misleading leading. I call it like two point. Oh because we leave the Air Force Air Force old because I'm one of the older people in the air force but when you get in the civilian world you realize the air force has is really a young population when everybody's the majority of the air force retires by their mid forties. It's amazing when you come out and go I can have an entire other career and different somewhere morale's outside of the air force colonel. It's been it's been an honor talking to you. This is probably been one of the the most emotional a pod the most emotional podcast we've had your book is survivor's obligation it launches tonight on the twentieth of September so thank you very much for for sitting down with us today. Chris has always it's been a pleasure and honor and we will

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Pride Month, Uber Bans and #SkyPenis

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Pride Month, Uber Bans and #SkyPenis

"Welcome side-hustle crumble. Join the conversation at side hustle, bustle dot com and be sure to leave us. A five star review helps us out tremendously. So Jesse what are we talking about this week? Well today's title is pride month. Uber bands and Skyping. Skype penis Skyping us. Okay. What about national doughnut day that's in there, too? Okay. But I really wanna know more about Skype penis. Well, I guess, you'll have stay tuned in. Listen. So jesse. We had a tornado were twenty earlier this week. We had a bunch such for sure. We definitely had a bunch. And we talk about how horrible that was in the Dayton area. Yeah. It was really, really bad. I've seen it I've, I've seen almost all the areas except for Brookville firsthand now. And it really did some serious devastation in the area. I mean it, it, it was really bad. Do you have an update for us? Well, I guess it's more of a community coming together. There's been a lot of outreach from local businesses. There's people just taking days off to go up there and cook for these for a neighbors up there that an EMMY affected areas. And I've had a lot of great stories from people about how the communities just coming together. I mean, you know, there's been discussions in my car about how this is has been similar to what it was like, after nine eleven I'll, wow. So we're seeing on a local level what it was on a national level. Right. It's that come rotary. You know, the everyone's on everyone's side. Never once pooling for everyone to get through this. We're all in this together kind of thing. Yeah. And it's sad, seeing all the, the porn buildings and, and the people without anything at this point. I mean these really did hit our hardest are most downtrodden communities in the area. So it's, it's really hard to, to see that in to. To see people who already have it rough. Now, they haven't even rougher if that was even possible and everyone is very synthetic in wanting to help very much anybody that did reach out and help with tornado victims. I wanna thank you, personally because I know that those folks really needed the help and I, I appreciate you went out there to help them. It's, you know, the most I was able to do is hand out some water and an offer rights basically, but that was about the extent of and offer some nice these, but I'm not rich. So if you offered help in any way, thank you. Well, I do know that the water boil warning has been lifted. So I guess, at least some, I think for most, there's still some in the very hard hit areas that still do need water and still do need something. So that's just because there's nothing as far as I'm sure those are gonna need to be completely rebuilt most areas. Yes has been lifted, but I think there are still a few areas that do need help still. So if you do visit our last post where we did linked to ways to help, there is still a need for help and donations would definitely be appreciated. Still at the food Bank. Obviously people lost all their food. They don't have money to recover that food. And then, of course, the Red Cross is always a great place to donate as well. So I'll make a link to our last post has all those links in our website at side-hustle kerfuffle dot com. So be sure to follow through in go. Check that out too good to know good to know speaking of the tornado relief, I have got a store. Sorry. Got a story story. Yeah. So I was telling you about all this camaraderie, and wonderful, right? Well, it didn't translate for one person. Oh my. So, so I got a call go pick this person up at that this person not gonna give any more details because we can probably all fill in with our imagination. It, it is what it is. You know, and honestly, I'm not mad at this person. It just struck me as not the appropriate way to act in the scenario that she was, I guess you now know she's a sheet that she was in so what happened. So I got a call and it was a pickup on a road in a very heavily tornado affected area. Okay. And I get a call back just saying, so I'm trying to head over to get her. And I'm finding that there's a roadblock to get to her like a great. So I back up, I try to find a way around. I find another road this black because of all the debris from the tornado Ray. Right. We'll see. Oh, I've, I've been countered like by the time I had to go reroute around and this was like a about five six mile rerouted. I had ended up doing. You know, I had riding countered three closed roads just on the way to go get her. She gives me a call. And she's like where are you? And I'm like, I'm all the roads that are to get to, you are closed. I can't get to you. I'm trying and just hang me. Yeah. She was just really irritated that. I, I was taking so long. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I will be there as soon as I Mabel sorry about the tornados the area. So anyway, eventually get there. I mean, the whole trip is started off. It was going to be like a three minutes to Reacher ended up getting to her within like ten minutes. Okay. Twenty or thirty minutes. No, it wasn't that bad. No. But by by your reaction to her reaction. I would have thought that she was complaining about a twenty or thirty minutes was she called me after like two minutes. Oh, wow. I hadn't even any men to miss when she called me, why get there. And she's like you get to this appointment by three o'clock, and I'm looking at my clock on my car, and I'm like it's like ten till three and this is the thirty minute trip. And we're in the middle of tornado, you know glasses area. Yeah. I'm like she's like I think we can do it. I'm like, no. The answer just like no, I said, you know, you got hit by a tornado here. Right. I said all the roads are closed around here. There's backups on every single road. I mean there's no good way through here. We're not gonna make it on time. You wouldn't have made it on time even without a tornado. She calls she calls the medical places. She's going for, for an appointment. And she's like we're going to be nine minutes late. And I'm like. Did you get nine minutes? I think she was looking at the, the app, Mike and should soon as she got off, like it's going to be more than nine minutes. I said this no way out of here. That's good. There's no way out of here. So. So we're driving along. And we're like okay, so they, they allocate. A lot of the. The cell phone service for emergency use so like my maps were like shocked. I couldn't hardly figure out where I was going. It wasn't updating at all. And so she starts of her map because her maps, clearly better than your rate rate, well, and to be fair, I pulled up my Google map too, because I was like, well, maybe I can get Google to do it. I did. I got Google to little better than them. It was using lived at the time. But so I'm sorry. Let me segue just for a second. So you're Uber lift apps. Do not utilize Google masks, you. Can you can't well and? They do base there, moth of Google apps. They have their own proprietary setting for it or something like that. And then you can't use Google maps separately. But it switches you out of the application, which I don't like some people do some people don't I've been doing this for a while. I like to be in the application looking at the map in the AFC there's other information I can access at that point, too. So that I generally the inap- map system if I can only relying up to two athletes because door dash utilizes Google maps, and it didn't occur to me that anything wouldn't so. Right. Wait. What? Okay. Sorry go on. So you guys pull up, you both pull up your Google map. Right. And so we're going, you know, through this area. We already have one detour. Okay. And so we're going around and then the both or maps are telling us turn left at this one road. The road has got cones all the way across. Cup. See the entire road, clearly there is no left turn for eight. Right. When you get to the stop sign this, ladies, like you turn, you're gonna turn left here. And I'm like, no, I do there's a cop and cones. We need to turn left. I'm like, I can't turn left. There's a cop there cones. We will be turning rights. Sees. So anyway, end to find another way around. She was supposed to be this appointment at, like three o'clock. I think we ended up getting there like three forty gees which given the circumstances. I mean so clearly she should have left like an hour early, not at ten Tunas, ROY total to pick up. I said you're going to need to start planning on our, you know, Jim yourself at our right, at least because you were hit by her up somebody the other day that was given big. They give them this one of the location, two hours ahead of time. You know, they said their big set up the right for two hours ahead of when they need to go because they knew that it's not good out there. So. Yeah. I mean, hopefully this will be over soon. We off worry about this. But for now there's still blocked roads are still places that are hard to get through. I mean these towns were absolutely demolished. And it just couldn't believe I was dealing with this from somebody that literally it was right in the middle of where the tornados came through granite their apartment complex was fine. Mostly. They had some roof damage, and there's trees down everywhere. But, you know, it's like her apartment was livable. So she didn't see anything else Ray. Right. That is crazy. Yeah, I just thought it was interesting. Well, I heard a story as well, but mine didn't have to do with damage. Mine had to do with a parking situation situation. Okay. Well, you know how I hate delivering the hospitals, but why? Hey, picking people up. Well, I'll just give a recap real quick of why hate 'Delivering hospitals because half the time will almost all the time people who want their lunch delivered to them at the hospital. They don't even tell me that it is a hospital in the instructions. So I'm looking for a street address. And suddenly, I'm like, oh, I'm at a hospital. Yeah. So then I have to figure out how to turn in because hospitals are notoriously just difficult. I mean, why are the why is it so difficult to figure out how to get into the hospital parking lot, like twenty five thousand entrances? But they're all they're all leak. You're going the wrong way. Right. You know, all of them right in their medians are reared in their parking situations. Weird. So anyway, you get into the, the barking lot, and you have to find the correct side of the building when you've already to go one way around, like, yes, whatever for. Five miles to the front. And then you get to the front entrance in it occurs to you. Oh, am I supposed to be the e are supposed to be at maternity might supposed to be God knows where the physicians because nobody instructions ever? So, you know, then you've got to figure out like okay during the park, my car and trudge in, in, like actually trying to find this person or. There are I don't park Mike. I did. I did the first couple of times because, you know, you're new you follow the rules. And, you know, that time is money that, but it's just I just pull up when I got my flash on like here. Let's go. Yeah. Well, and if it's only gonna take a few minutes that works out, well right, but sometimes you get in mind, you, I don't know if the person I'm delivering to is a patient, a staff member a doctor nurse. I have no idea who I'm delivering to. And all I have is a first name a initial of the last name and the street address. Notre be great with me. It really really would. And I mean sometimes it works out. Well, they're, they're standing right there waiting, they text me. I'll meet you at blah, blah, blah. And that's always nice, but they usually tell him in the area, which was which lead the damn instructions when. But other times, I walk in to the front entrance, if, if I have no other instructions just walk in, and I'm like, you know, hey, I have door dashed off for so-and-so, right. And they're like who's that I'm like, I don't know. And I mean I will make the smallest attempt, and I, I mean, very small because I'm impatient because I'm like no time is money money. And moreover, my patients level is not good. Like there's a reason I have this job, and it's not 'cause I'm friendly in, like people. So I can attest to that indeed, sir. So, you know, I might make a small verdant try to contact them via tax. You know. Hey, I'm at the front desk of so, and so, and they have no idea who you are want your lunch right down here. Let me know where you are. 'cause I'm about to drop it with Sarah reception, right? Yeah. You know I got you. So anyway, this particular time, I did have some written instructions to go around to the ER and to, to come to the reception desk. Pretty good attract that was really good instructions and I very much appreciate it. The problem is that normally I can wait pool into the traffic circle. Our ambulances go, and I won't like be right in wherein ambulance, clearly would need be on either end is far into the grass or up the sidewalk as possible have my flashers on. And I'll just run in drop in run back because I don't wanna be responsible for walking walking an ambulance. Right. Like, I don't want somebody to die because they couldn't get into the hospital because my stupid car was blocking for somebody's Brigham to poli. Right. So unfortunately, this particular time, there was a cop sitting there, and I was like, damn what am I gonna do? So, you know, there's, there's always signs through the circle that, you know, no parking emergency vehicle only find disregard them with the cops, not their shirt of aqap specifically sitting there in the circle. Yeah. Not so much. Right. So then I slumped on the way out to the actual parking lot. And it was it was packed every emergency on the planet happened that particular day tornadoes. No, this was not, not back then. I mean this yesterday. Right. But I'm saying with all the stuff going on. There's probably a lot more injuries happening right now parade more people would have been admitted into the hospital, they would no longer be in the ER. I think I'm saying is still going on, like, you know, there's debris everywhere there's things following those of stepping armed news. Still happy. A lot more busy over. All right. You're right. I thought of that. I just people being blown up. You know, Donald flight of stairs. I don't know why for that, which maybe laugh, okay? You're right. I hadn't thought of that. So. Okay. So the emergency room is packed. Thank you tornadoes. So. Anyway. I'm like, I'm not gonna park all the way out in the boonies and Burma's in because it wasn't even a five dollar delivery. Right. Forget that. So I parked around the side and perked up on the sidewalk and by sidewalk what I mean is, you know, how around nicer hospitals they'll have like grass and then they'll have like this nice brick landscaping stuff, and then it just goes right into street. And it's all the same. So it's not sidewalk. It's just, you know, fancy landscaping that we all just agree aside, washer show transition. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. But there was not a no parking sign which I know you're not supposed to park there. But there wasn't specifically no parking sign on. You're trying to I was just trying to in and out. Real quick. Yeah. Hey, I wasn't trying to block traffic and it wasn't trying to be special and go see my aunt someone. So whatever. Sure. I just wanted to drop this guy's launch off. So I get out in the couplet sitting in his car. He sees me get out. He sees me walk in with my door dash bag. Right. I go in drop off. Whatever it was fine. It was easy. Connect to oh maybe forty five seconds top. Because as one of them inch reception desk was right inside the door. And then I told her who has waiting for she was able to page the person in the person did not have. To come from the opposite side of the hospital. They were like maybe a room away. So I mean it was a very easy transaction all things considered also. Yeah. So I come back out, and I see the cop, and he's getting out of his car, and I'm like, oh, I don't have time for this. I just pretended. I didn't see him. He hadn't called me or anything on here for me. I knew is for me, but I was like he's not here for me. I'm just gonna keep walking. Does. I have nothing to feel guilty about I didn't do anything. Right. And so, you know, I hope Richard Ord affects hand waste my door dash bag just for extra emphasis that I am at work duty working not menacing or selling crack. Right. And certainly not you know being a prostitute. Right. So get about halfway to my car. And I hear him and I'm about to be mean for minute, because this was like the fattest cop I've ever seen. He was so fat, and I'm really sorry. To be stereotypical. But all I could think was if I was a bad guy. I can't run because I'm fat, but this guy could not have caught me. What I'm trying to say. So I'm sure that there are better cops in better shape. This was not one of them. Right. So he goes, hey, I'm lady is that your car and let me just stop right here until you something do not. Call me young lady do not do not. So we're supposed to call your lady, don't just just don't snow to grading. It's such an authority power move. It's, it's so like I I'm telling I'm the boss of you and I'm about to. And I'm like, there's no reason for that are confused. What would be the proper way to address somebody that you don't ma'am, sir? Excuse me person. Hey, you with the red bag? Not knew the answer that we clarified. Yeah. Everybody's listening to didn't know not use the word gently that they now know if I actually was a young lady, even then it would be inappropriate, but I am a forty plus year old woman, and I have seen some shit in my life. I am not a child, and you are not my father, you know, and that's, that's what I was supposed to feel like I was a child being chastised by my better, my older, male. Who's going to put me in my place? Young lady is this your car. And instead of saying, what I wanted to say, which was don't fucking. Call me young lady that fuck instead of saying that which is entirely inappropriate probably would have got me arrested which I don't understand why. I mean, he wasn't salty he I don't disagree. But for vote in argument merely in the way, he addressed me. Look, I don't like the way cops power trip, but at the same time you do. No, you can't. And I, I know I can't I know that he's allowed to be insulting to me. I know that right? And I know that I'm not allowed to be insulting back stay for the record that, you know, especially given the circumstances right now. We love what cops do for us on a day-to-day basis. They help our communities. We don't like the ones the power trip and caused problems for people that are trying to get by today. I can hold two ideas that are opposite in my head at the same time I can be grateful for cops that answer. Nine one one calls in risk their lives. I can say that this guy has probably super nice, and would no doubt save my life. If I needed him to, I can also say he was a jerk write things can be true. So this particular guy, he said that, and then he was, I just was like, I'm not having this today. So. I didn't I didn't want to get a ticket. I was just like if I just pretend I didn't do anything wrong. I pretend like I'm busy than, you know, I'm just gonna show. No fear this walking. And I said, Yep. And kept walking 'cause I was like, you know, I'm busy par gotta go. And he said, well, I thought I had a drunk driver here for a minute, or somebody impaired because you're parked up on the sidewalk. And I said, oh, sorry and just kept walking. He goes next time you wanna park in the circle, and I go, you mean right in front of the no parking sign, and yes, that was provocative. I should not have said that it's lipped out. But all I could think was supposed to actually legitimately on purpose break, the law, instead of kind of circuitously not really only sword. A break the law right in front of you doubted it, sir. Anyway. I said, okay, we'll do Roger that gotta go, and I got into card your way. So that was that story. And that was actually yesterday, which is interesting because Friday, I did not actually go out driving. And because as you know, I took our daughter and her besties to kings island, which is a local theme park. Right. So we did that in the whole day, I was getting all these alerts, so busy today. Andy can't you dry for us, please? No. I'm having too much fun go away. I gotta wonder though, how much of that was like. Okay. So you were in Cincinnati. They saw you're in Cincinnati. Right. And maybe cassettes that he's a lot busier than danger. Oh, yeah. They were like, hey, you're here. Why don't you drive? Yeah. Well, I, I don't know because I get those alerts a lot when I'm not driving when it seems like it's just to get you to dry. It's just to give me the dry and the rich like we've talked fake surges and stuff like that. You're. Yeah, I have to wonder though, because then today or yesterday that was Friday. I went to kings island didn't drive in the Nestor day, I actually had put aside the entire day, and in the first hour and a half I had not even made four dollars in fifty. As you probably weren't. They on. They'd probably be sending me stuff go. Yeah. So I found that very interesting that one day, you know, apparently I was gonna make my millions than than the next day. I was available all day. And you know. Just it was nothing. Just nothing nothing at all writing it. All right. So what else you got for my love while, I think we're going to transition into a new satement here, which rain. Here's where we would normally if we had sponsors, and, and, and ent- audible, what's up. Don't you wanna spend? This is where we break. But I think, you know, we were talking about this earlier and. We kinda like talking about trending stuff, and some of it relates to lift door directly some of it doesn't. But at the very least you can talk to your customers about this is thinking talk to like drive for a lift. Maybe you can say heard about this thing. No Skype peanuts Skype penis. What the hell is Skyping? Well, apparently these planes over Lugar force base, where flying around and doing a mock battle or dogfight, or whatever they call it, your contrails. Created the image of a penis guy. Penis was trending for days, Twitter and pointed that make my day. Install only not related to lift Uber or door. Dash in any way whatsoever. Told me that they claim that they did not do this on purpose. They Luke air force base went, so far as to make a statement like nobody asked them, we all pretty much Sumed it would have been, you know, either either on accident or like a few rogue pilots. Right. But Luke air force base, actually released a statement, and I just thought that was the funniest part of the whole story, actually, that is interesting. So I hear some news that is actually relating to. Okay. So unlike sky penis. Unlike Skype this, I'm sorry. Right. Going on with the story. I am. I don't think I could ever be done. What talking about Skyping? Okay. Go on go on no more Skyping. So you may have heard this may not. But Uber writers now can be banned from using the app for low ratings which I find interesting because it's Uber choosing to ban people that would pay them money. So they're lay turning away their own customers. Now, don't custom don't get me wrong. I'm kind of happy about it because I've encountered some pretty crappy customers over the time. I've been doing this maiming example of somebody that you would like to ban, you know, honestly, the people that I would most like see band are really stinky people. That's judgy. Well, why, why would you want to ban stinky people because I can't give a right after I'm done, giving them a ride. They stink up my entire car, and then I have to clean my car and scrub Al shit smell out of my seat. N it's just disgusting to me. So it's not just that they're stinky. It's that it permeates. The car will God is often you gotta turn off your clock in clean up before you can raise the money in cleaning supplies to clean the whatever the hell it is off of my see. So we're not just talking like body odor league. No. We're talking about, like shit must be using out of their fucking underwear. Oh, that's nasty. I mean it's disgusting. It really is disgusting. Okay. So, and it happens more often than you would think. And then I would in all honesty, if I were to ride in Neuberger, I would probably bring something. Oh, jeez. Because just in case the person before me early ten rise before me was that person thinks that bad some note to our listeners don't sit bear, but on the seat. Definitely don't know. Got drivers like me, who will get out in clean mishit out of that. Because I've got a family, the rights in my car, and I've got customers that I don't want smelling shit in my car and thinking that I ripped the biggest goddamn fart in the planet. So I mean I would own that should if I did. But you do you do on your part. Right. Can attest to that yet. So that was my. That's why. Writers can now be banned for low ratings. That's very interesting be aware. I wonder how many low ratings, they have to have before their band, although probably never tell anybody, 'cause everything secret with her, and I don't ever like the slows anything specifically. So that's fascinating. I've just I've never taken a leftover Uber Ryan. Which I think is really funny, given that you are a lift and Uber driver. Right. So I don't really know what to expect, I think, in my entire life, I take it, maybe two taxi rights, and I know one of them in the only one, I can really, really remember when I was a kid and it was when my dad had just retired from the air force. So we had just returned to the United States, and we're going from one airport to the other a New York taxi, from one to the other woman, gut like the taxes have those like hard plastic. Seats. I don't even remember. I, I honestly don't even remember that. I just remember being very excited. We're in a taxi, right? We're in New York in them. We were there. Gotcha. Gotcha. That was it that, that's my memory of that. New York, visit well we got a day coming up that is very special to our family very special indeed. Let you take. The rain will miss one soon. National Donut day is June seventh. And I'm just saying I'm here for it and Dunkin donuts. I guess is doing a lot of press on this and. The probably given some stuff away, is what I'm getting out of that. Wonderful over a lot of donuts for door. Dash that day I'm wondering ever deliver us to people. I was just gonna say I picked up ills doughnuts, which is a local Donut place that I don't understand like it's gold. Everybody here loves bills doughnuts cream any day over that. I hate bills. Don't if no, thanks to Bill or his Dona. They're not that bad. It's just like it to me. They're just not like that extra special. I I don't understand the love for life. I'm grateful. I love supporting my local business and I love. They are very community involved. Four hours. Oh, are they realize that so that's like one of the draws to him to? That's really cool. So, I mean when I say, I hate those doughnuts that, that let me take that back. I don't hate bills donuts. I don't understand the draw and maybe it is just it is because it's a local place in there twenty four hours. They are very community driven so sorry bills don't as I didn't mean to despair at you, but I live, right? Across street from your enemy visited you quite often. We did we did we did in. Thank you bills. Doughnuts, and feel free to sponsor us. Forever that break we had a few minutes ago. Yeah. Joey. So I do verd- from them for the first time last week. And that was cool, but it was in the morning rush. They were so busy. And I hope I never have to do that again. Holy moly. I mean there was a line out the door. Yeah. I did have to pick up was this a place where you had to place the order or what? No, no. They were. They were already called in and paid for. So all I had to do it up. But even to get somebody's attention. They didn't have a specific door dash pickup area. So I had to actually stand in line, which I've found various sugars waved door day did, and they were like we'll be right with you. And then I saw on the side, they had a table of donuts that were like boxes that were all named in labeled, but I didn't know if I was allowed to just take it since it was the first time, I, I definitely. And like a lot of places like some Chipotle, laze in some Fizeau ways you can just go find your order, picking up and leave other places you pick it up, but they still need to check it out. Right. Some chick fil A's. They'll have your order, but you still they still need to check it out. And so. Could not get their attention stand in line just to ask, am I allowed to take that. And they were like those yours. And I'm like, oh my God help, so there needed to. Yeah. So that wasn't fun on my did pick up from Dunkin donuts before once, and that was fun. They're fine. We have to report back. See if national Donut day picks up sales for donuts Jim seven I'm excited for it. That'll be a time for an ex podcast. Yeah. Point. We got anything else. We're talking about today. Yes. It's pride mon-. All right. I'm very happy pride month. Go team love the LGBTQ community and I was wondering if lift or Uber is doing anything in celebration thereof. I know that actually yet when you mentioned this to me, I did some due diligence to look up, see if there's anything going on for either the group's door Nash isn't doing anything that I'm aware of. So what, what do you have so lift is they may just in time for pride month? They are now offering writers the option to choose a pro now. So. Basically, you can choose pronoun options, are they them bears? She her hers, or he him his nails, including option where the pronoun isn't listed, or the right writer prefers, not choose appro now that is so important. And I'm really glad to see more and more companies going that direction because usually they're all just the binary choices. I agree. I mean there's a token thing, but it's nice to see that. They offered something for the community. Right. So if you are interested in how update the pronouns you go to the menu and in the lift up and you tap, the view profile. And then he tapped personal info. And then you select the pronoun tap save. As located the right top hand corner of the screen. Okay. Good to know that is very cool. I'm very glad to hear that they are doing that. Yes. I think that's about all we had for this week. Is that correct? That is correct, sir. All right. I think we are going to cover. Are. Money this week. So stay tuned. We'll be right back with that. You don't. So we're going to talk about our income again this week. And I know we it said in the past that we weren't. But basically, because it doesn't reflect accurately, what you're actually making after wear and tear gas. So we want to discuss still because there's something people look forward to, but we do wanna caveat it with. It's not the full picture. Definitely I mean it doesn't take into account the times when I sit for an hour with my air blasting and, you know, I'm not taking any orders, or Ryan, I drive from one side of the city to the other to pick up a four dollar order. Or you know, you drive hundreds of miles. Vivian said we do wanna say until you what we're making, but we don't want to over glamorize this job. Not possible. Which wanna make sure that no one gets the idea that it's you know exactly what we're saying here. So don't go thinking we're rich. Right. All right. That'd being said, I worked for a total this Jesse. And I worked for total of forty three hours and fifteen minutes and I made a total of six hundred eleven dollars and forty cents which worked out to an hourly wage of fourteen dollars and seventeen cents per hour. Again, that is before wear and tear and before gas. And I only worked nineteen hours this. Going on. I did. I mean just one of those days, I took the girls to kings island. So I work nineteen hours. And I got in a total of one hundred eighty two dollars and seventeen cents whichever is out to nine fifty nine per hour. Awesome. So that said send money. We'll see you next week. Bye. Okay. That's it for this week Email, your funny, est rideshare food, delivery experiences. Two stories at side-hustle kerfuffle dot com and we might share it in a future podcasts. Also, be sure to tune into side-hustle kerfuffle. Every Sunday came. Thanks bye.

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October 19, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:17 min | 2 years ago

October 19, 2018

"Good Friday morning. I'm Jake Sherman and welcome to your political playbook audio briefing. Stay tuned after the show for message from AARP. The big question this morning. What if Republicans hold on Rachel? Bait is up with a look and have Republicans could hang onto the house. This is a scenario as Rachel notes, Republicans find themselves thinking about out on the campaign trail internal polling shows many races or within the margin of error, but nearly all of those contests would have to break for the GOP in order for them to keep the house. Most Republicans will tell you even if the president had skyscraper, approval ratings, history would dictate the house would be gone. As a few Republicans recently reminded us. There are forty one Republican retirements, seventeen Democrats retired in twenty ten when Republicans won sixty three seats, the congressional leadership funds, Corey bliss and memo to donors. Yesterday with the subject line, the green wave grows and political environment proves the green wave is a reference to the democratic money that's pouring into the midterm elections, and the political environment is improving slightly the PR. Residents, approval ratings are up and contests that once were on the board for Democrats have fallen off. See Aleph is running radio ads and ten districts calling Democrats in their candidates the quote, liberal mob that will quote stop at nothing future forty five. The group backed by the Ricketts family disclosed spending four million dollars on ads against Nancy Pelosi, Alexandria occasion, Cortes Bernie Sanders. Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren in Montana. Last night President Trump praised Greg Gianforte for body slamming a reporter in thousand seventeen injuries do has a scoop on Richard Grenell. The controversial US ambassador to Germany being considered to replace Nikki Haley at the UN. Here's the latest on Jamal kashogi. The New York Times is reporting. The Trump believes he is dead citing until reports in that Saudi Arabia was involved Saudi Arabia. According to the times is gearing up to blame an intelligence official with ties to crown prince. Mohammad bin Salman purchase effort has a story about Bob corker criticizing the White House's intelligence clamp down on kashogi while the Washington Post report. Conservatives have mounted a whisper campaign smearing kashogi in an attempt to defend Trump. Bloomberg reports that Francis suspended, political visits to Saudi Arabia in coordination with Germany, the UK and the Netherlands, as they await clarification on the disappearance of kashogi the Washington Post reports about George W Bush's behind the scene role in the twenty eight team midterm elections. The New York Times is a piece about how sharp partisans need not apply for trade association head gigs after they leave office. Here's what's on tap. For Trump's Friday, the president is in Scottsdale, Arizona were participating around table is supporters. Deliver remarks at a fundraiser and side a presidential memorandum. He'll Ben travel to Luke air force base where he'll get a tour and hold a round table Trump will then fly to Mesa Arizona, where he'll headline a political rally subscribed to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook. Today's episode is sponsored by a r p the latest issue of politico magazine series. The deciders takes a look at voters over fifty in Pennsylvania for being crushed by the cost of healthcare. It doesn't matter if they are Republican or democrat, they don't see hope for themselves or for future generations and are voting for help you the latest politico AARP poll results and read the latest issue of the deciders at politico dot com. Slash the deciders.

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NPR News: 03-22-2019 10AM ET

NPR News Now

04:54 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 03-22-2019 10AM ET

"This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast business. Business has always been driven by innovators. That's why Comcast business is helping you with technology that provides better experiences. Comcast business beyond fast live from NPR. News in Washington, I'm korva Coleman. President Trump is facing international criticism over his announcement that it's time to recognize Israel sovereignty over the occupied Golan Heights NPR's. Peter Kenyon says Ron Russia. Syria and Turkey are among his critics Russia. Condemned. Trump's announcement a Syrian official said it showed quote blind bias toward Israel by the US Iran called the move illegal and unacceptable and Turkey's president ridge type area to one said Trump's statement has brought the region to the edge of a new crisis. Adding, quote, we cannot allow legitimization of the station of the Golan Heights NPR's. Peter Kenyon reporting the European Union has granted the United Kingdom a short extension for Brexit. But as NPR's Frank Langfitt reports from London the UK has to make some big decisions very soon after months of anxiety and uncertainty. One thing is clear the UK will not crash out of the EU on March twenty ninth as many increasingly had feared instead, the EU said this Thursday night in Brussels. If Britain's parliament passes, Prime Minister, Theresa May's, deeply unpopular Brexit deal next week, you can have until may twenty second to square way, domestic legislation leave the you. But for deal fails, the UK has until just April twelfth to decide on a new plan or prepare to leave with no deal, the use adjusted a couple of options last night, cancel Brexit or accept a long extension. Both our courses prime minster may oppose us, but the us made it clear by mid April. The UK has to decide on something. Frank Langfitt, NPR news, London, Missouri is under a state of emergency as river flooding worsens in the mid west up. Authorities say about twenty levees in Missouri. Nebraska and Iowa have been breached by high water. Fred nap with any T news reports on the flooding in plasma Nebraska until last week. The worst flood to hit plot. Smith was in twenty eleven when the Missouri river rose ten feet above its banks city administrator, Irv Portis says the city tried to plan ahead. We made some repairs in two thousand eleven based on that flood of all floods historic Christian. Guess what? We're wrong Saturday. The missouri. Crested fourteen feet above its banks knocking out Platt Smith's water and sewage treatment plants the city's authorized emergency borrow in equal to last year's entire city budget, federal and state funds may eventually pay most of that. But mayor Paul Lambert says it could take up to a year for things to return to normal for NPR news. I'm frit nap in Platte Smith, Nebraska. Meanwhile, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicts that flooding this spring will continue to be catastrophic for the mid west it may reach historic levels in the south as many as two hundred million people. May be at risk of flooding. Danger. On Wall Street. The major indices are all about one percent lower. The Dow was down two hundred fifty one points at twenty five thousand seven hundred eleven you're listening to NPR news. Arizona Senator Martha mcsally visited Luke air force base west to Phoenix on Thursday for what she called a candidate discussion about sexual assault in the armed services. She recently said she was sexually assaulted while in the air force for member station. K J Z Z. Jimmy Jenkins reports. Mix Ellie said she met with commanders and junior airmen to discuss the challenges they're facing with sexual assault in the air force. She said education was key to preventing assaults in the first place where very much also focusing on after a salt is reported. What can we do to improve the process of the investigations and judicial process mcsally said she wants to give due process to victims and get it done in a timely manner. The Senator said she has created a task force to look for a specific policy changes that could be included in the national defense authorization act for NPR news. I'm Jimmy Jenkins in Phoenix rescue efforts continue in southeast Africa where a cyclone devastated three countries. The death toll has surpassed five hundred people in Mozambique. There are more debts in Malawi and Zimbabwe relief groups feared the overall cyclone death toll may rise to more than one thousand people Australia is about to be hit by two separate cyclones. Tropical cyclone Trevor is approaching the country's northeast with top sustained winds of ninety three miles per hour in the country's northwest tropical cyclone Veronica has top sustained winds of one hundred eight miles per hour. Australia does see cyclones but rarely sees to over the same weekend, I'm korva Coleman. NPR news in Washington.

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Senator Martha McSally on the continued fight to keep the A-10 as a key part of the inventory for our military.

The Conservative Circus w/ James T. Harris

07:47 min | 5 months ago

Senator Martha McSally on the continued fight to keep the A-10 as a key part of the inventory for our military.

"Senator Martha. Was An eight ten, a pilot and she's flown in combat. She is in the center ring. senator mcsally. I wanted to have you on today. Because once again you have come through for the for the mighty a ten I do realize we're in the Phoenix area. EVERYBODY LOVES LUKE AIR FORCE BASE IN THIRTY FIVE, but I want you to explain to to the audience, the importance of the eight ten, and why you have to continuously fight for this plane to to not be moth. Daughter sent out into the desert. Good Morning. Absolutely, you know. I flew the three hundred and twenty five hours in combat, commanded the one deployable eight ten squadron at Davis, Monthan Airforce Base, and took them over to combat and Aghanistan so I have first hand understanding about the unique capabilities that the brings when our troops are on the ground under fire and tough circumstances, often on the move with friendly than enemy, really close and tough terrain under the weather were only the eight hand showing up. Overhead is going to keep them alive so I'm not fighting for it because I'm nostalgic about it, 'cause I flew, flew the t thirty seven. It's in the bone yard. You Know God rested so. Is So unique for protecting our troops, and keeping them alive and running combat, rescue mission and the Air Force. Keep trying to get rid of it if they got their way a few years ago, they'd have all the a ten's mothball now, so we stop that from happening. When I first came in the House and now this year, the Air Force was even though they've agreed now that. Hey, we say. In fact, the chief of staff acknowledged in a hearing that the Senate makes. The eight and they've agreed it'll be the inventory till in the twenty thirties, but they're trying to reduce the size of the fleet, and so I stopped that from happening and the Defense Bill. We just marked up, but look we love have thirty five right for for air superiority and the fifth generation fighters that we need but you need the Ferrari and a pickup truck. We shouldn't be asking the F thirty five to do what only the ten can do to keep Americans alive. Well, that's just it. I remember sitting up in the middle of the night when you fall when I got into the Senate and you. You were fighting for this thing I, I mean I remember that and I remember all of the people on the ground. The grunts men and women who are on the ground, and in different places around the world who absolutely love that eight ten? WHO Went Wednesday here? It overhead fill so much safer because of what that plane is capable for, but you know if you're not from the attack community. You really don't know it. Yeah, people Oh. Yeah, okay. Senator saved plane, but no, it's more than that which you're doing. You're fighting for the lives of our men and women who are fighting overseas. Who need that cover. That's exactly it We're an attack plane We were built to be right on the front lines with the troops in close firefight, low and slow. We've got the capability to be overhead up to ninety minutes or more. We've got eleven hundred and seventy four rounds of thirty millimeter. As you know, the folk lore is, they built the gun and went to the engineers, and said figure out how to fly his. Other, you know eleven other pylons where we can now carry with a upgrade. GPS bomb laser guided bombs. Missiles Rockets we've got. Now a full glass cockpit with helmet mounted chewing and night vision capabilities targeting pods. It's extraordinary what this aircraft brings to the fight. We can take direct hits We can still fly and get home to friendly territory. Even if we can't land, then you can object in friendly territory as you know you know a lot about it. It's very survivable. It's a workhorse. It is so critical also for not just close air support, but if someone's down in enemy territory had to Jack, or they're trapped special forces, we show up, and we run the entire combat search and rescue mission to locate them to protect them, and to coordinate all the assets to be able to get them out safely. This is something only eight ten does, and it brings that training and. And Culture to the rest of the force to do some of these missions, but we are the core element of that to keep Americans alive and get them home safely is the Senator Martha mcsally is in the center ring of the conservative circus, and you know what I could say all these things senator, but because you are from the attack community because you want flew this plane. is so much better coming from from your mouth from your insight to know how important it is that we keep this thing in the inventory. I like to see new redesigns. What you just described as exactly true and a lot of that technology is being used on the F thirty five. Your book is called. Dare to fly simple lessons, and never giving up and I want to have you on about the eighteenth because you have not given up. Will the air force ever give up the attack on the Warthog. Well I guess we've finally got them to agree the eight and needs to be around for a long time. So that's the that's. That's an important part of the fight and I remember you talking about the first my first year in the house. I didn't even know where the bathrooms were trying to get rid of the eight ten, but I brought in a thirty millimeter shell. Obviously, it wasn't live. put it on the Diet as is out there and fought on the Armed Services Committee to stop it from being awful. Then we won and then I put language in there. That said they can't retire. One more eight or think about retiring planning to retire until they had to fly off between the F thirty five, the eight stated that and I wrote that language, and we've seen the result of the fly off, and it shows that we need the ten we need have thirty five to but now they're trying to do is reduce the number and so. So in the in the defense bill this year I prohibit that from happening, and those would all come from Davis Monthan by the way reduce forty four eight tenths, but then I also require them to come back to me, and you know to give a brief on the capacity. They they've agreed. We need the capability, but I'm not convinced that where they. They Wanna go capacity wise is going to be enough to be able to meet the demands of the forest in any kind of scenario we also need to see the future of Davis. And it's such a national treasure and the weather and the aerospace they go, what arranges so like this all needs to be talked about comprehensively best for our troops with. With Best Davis Monthan in the community, they're using that national treasure and keeping this H. and capability out there to save American lives. This is exactly why I wanted to have you on to talk about this. You were being modest, and no, because we're trying to support thirty five, but the eight hundred and F- fly. F opened up Canada. What Pass? APPS Thirty five and yeah. We need both of these in our inventory. Listen I WANNA. Have you back on again soon? Because I want to talk about the Arizona's tourism industry, you had a conversation with the Federal Reserve chairman about that, but for right now your book dare to fly simple essence, and never giving up is a perfect title because of the battles that you have gone through in life with the ten and trying to keep it alive I thought you would be the best voice to explain to my audience why it is vital that we keep that that plane in the inventory. Thanks, you've been an advocate all along so thanks for continuing to be and you're right. I talk about the battles. Then dare to fly. People can go to there to fly, dot us, and also share their stories with me. but look. This is a really important asset. For keeping American troops alive, getting them home to their families, I know this firsthand having commanded think about flew the squadron from Davis Monthan. All Aghanistan and commanded my squadron combat, and just so proud of what the has done so many lives saved, and we gotTA. Keep it around.

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Watch Closely

The Right Time with Bomani Jones

1:05:18 hr | 2 years ago

Watch Closely

"Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the right top. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening on the ESPN app. Apple podcasts pack has gone head and use rate review. Give us five stars. You only goes four stars. I'm inclined to think that you are a hater coming up got us into shat out. Michael Thomas with that test down bang with the phone and stuff like that. Also got some interesting to say about Bill Belichick. I think you wanna hear. But I. All right. So sitting down here, and I'm looking at it she'd print out before the show main gay put together for me, they gave a lot stuff behind the scenes making sure we got everything lined up. Like, I think people missing gave sometimes people talk about that. When they start talking about like on Mike stuff with producer. That's not actually the job. That's me. Getting like worked for free computer thing Klis job at times, but contributing to the show as long as it makes a better product is all the things that but it, but is it important thing. Right. And today, I'm looking down. And it says magic running out of patience with Luke Walton question, Mark, right? Because that's how you summarize things that you put them in an Email that you bosses go see need to make quick bullet points. Right. You know, that's that sort of stuff, but I looked at that. And laugh when I saw because I was like running out of bases. Luke Walton I made at the idea that anybody as the magic head patients with Luke Walton in the first place. Right. He hurt. His right had apparently magical Luke air for meat, and let them know that at the time they were three or five three five was not going to be acceptable. And that they were going need to step thing up. And then, you know, people come to Luke Walton auto questions about he act. Like, it wasn't that big of a deal to come to highlight. Magic body magic. Nah. We're not gonna fire them. Right. You know, he's like ain't necessarily that. Big a deal. You got different reports that were out that magic basically didn't feel like there was a system and that he wanted to see some sort of system in what they were doing with the team offensively. Then you get people like my homie Pablo who turns it into a conspiracy theory. This is really just LeBron. Megan his whole thing happened. I'm Dan LeBron just got here. But yeah, okay magic. We that's what we think okay coup. And so here we are with people looking at Luke wall. And then of course, you know, sympathy Cottle's come off Lou world, Lou Williams vol the roasters bed right because everybody seems to like Luke walled. I actually like Lou wall. Also gave you ever I guess you your Lakers fan. Have you ever noticed? Luwan sound like a quiet storm DJ. What is it quite store? Quiet storm. Okay. So there's a saw grabs it had assault. Call quiet storm back today. But their name was then taken for a basically your whole format radio. So like if you turn in to the old school are and B station between like nine and one in the morning like all the slow. Jay is. You're listening to the quiets. Okay. This is Samuel Jackson's character. And do the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. Put the cool. Our right. Not all all the ones. Right. The quiet store. DJ ain't gonna get his head is he did he say really wide like that. But you always got voice as all the way down to the bottom, and I had Luke well when the radio when I did this radio show he came on one day. And I'm like, yo Luke warm and cool as hell he really does sound like a quiet storm DJ, and I hope you don't be try to motivate the troops would divorced overall sued and stuff like man, how about we just chill. I listen to some shy days that playing basketball loop. You know, you can't you can't you can't rallied the forces in that sort of way. I completely forgot what I was talking about. But I'm gonna go back to something. I think several to it. Oh, yeah. Lou wild house goal with him as the coach magic is gonna come highlight you at three and five and be like a man this needs to be a little bit better guys. I don't know if you heard but Magic Johnson played in the NBA for twelve years. His teams made the finals nine times. Now do magic is not here for the mediocre. That's not like, that's that's not what this dude is like I'm really wondering if magic this is done all this smile and over time and y'all have completely missed the point here. He's a very nice in personable, gentlemen. Right. But I was talking to somebody wants who's got the familiarity with magic and the way he does business, right. Like the business business stuff. And it was like look one thing. They say that you learn very quickly about magic is there's magic and in there's Irving, right? Magic come out in front all the people put on a smile and everything else urban, but business, right? Urban is by getting done. And don't forget mad urban is athlete like Adly typically are not long on the excuses or the patients with losing that. That's not what does is. So magic is running the Lakers. He's got a coast did not hire. Now, the owner really really likes the code. So I think the magic is decided, okay. I'm arrive with this. You know, as I can't. But in the end, this is not his guy. A anytime. A new front office comes in to take over team. What do we always know if there is somebody new incharge in front office? They wanna bring in their own people, or at very least, they have absolutely no investment in the success of the people who are ready there. Now. Not that they would not want those people to ultimately be successful. But they not going to be the ones to keep you around any longer than necessary because they don't have anything to prove necessarily like if you the person that hire somebody. Yeah, you're really trying to pull the rug out from under them early necessarily because you don't want it to look like you made a bad hire, Luke Walton. That's not Magic's higher. He doesn't have to do that. He's not in that place. And I don't think Luke Walton is bad coach like I don't have anything to indicate that he is a bad coach. But I don't have anything to indicate. The Luke Walton is a really good one either. I mean, he's got this job. He was the leader says for the warriors, right? That's how we did year. He Alvin gentry gotta gig as lead assistant of the wards, Luke Walton guided next, and Luke Walton was there for that time Steve Kerr was gone. But I know a little bit about the NBA and interim coaches the interim coach of that team was probably Draymond green. Right. And that's not to say, look, well and didn't have anything he contributed to necessarily. But I can't give him so much credit on his resume for what sue plays in that time period. I just can't right? So I'm not in a place where I'll look at Luke. And I'm like man, how could you do think that Luke Walton deserves this and everything else. No, no, no, no, no this big boy game and in big boy game every now, and then you'll bosses going call you win and your boss is going to be like eight man what I witnessed us far as I said, it's factory needs to be improved. What gets me about it? How surprised people are? You know? So like, I think I could make an argument that I myself with some of the things that I've said about it probably contributed to what could be deemed an overreaction. And the reason that I say that is if you Luke Walton trouble, I think is of course, he's in trouble. He was not hired by the current regime. Like, I don't think the fact that magic called him in that. He was in trouble. I think the whole overall situation is one that speaks to. Coaching jobs can't be for so long term. But this'll him really hitting long term. Right. But there was a real alarm is sort of table. How do we get this is this is what is going to be? They got LeBron James like no matter what in the the Rosser around. Lebron is weird thing. We'd all say that. I can't say the roster is bed. I would say the Russia is weird. And I was certainly say at the roster is incomplete. But in the end, you still got Bron James so go look at that roster in Cleveland, even with Kevin love playing against Kevin love playing that roster. As far as I can tell us basically what it was last season. Except last season. They had LeBron that team made the finals. The lakers. They're not five hundred. I mean. Yeah, I think it's okay to ask some questions about what's going on this far. If that's going to be the case. Now, I mentioned earlier about the idea of people thinking that, you know, this is really just LeBron puppetmaster into whole thing. Lebron is in control of everything which I don't think is an implausible hypothesis. I don't think it tests out will necessarily here. But I mean, I definitely can say that it is not implausible hit. Here's the thing to remember the about abroad, and like puppetmaster and stuff. He's only really managed to pull that off in Cleveland. I mean, he gave out and he tried to do that in Miami. And here's the thing about the heat. And I mean, I feel like me saying this for a lot of people will seem somewhat obvious. But I know that it wasn't until I lived in Miami. And you know, what kind of working in his business? It was around it that I fully understood what was going on there. But to say that the heater Pat Riley's team. It just doesn't go far enough. Right. Like you hear that? I mean like I say the Spurs are Popovich's team. But I don't think it's it's not the same as it is with Pat Riley. Like, I forget who was making his point to me once about so, you know, they ought to the military that he gained whatever. But when they do that over the PA, it's like, Pat Riley and the Miami Heat would like to honor the you know, what I mean like he's at the front of that in a way that is honestly akin to read are back with the Celtics again. I don't think I'm necessarily telling you anything that you don't know. But I don't think that we really properly put it in that context. Like look the heat as a franchise are thirty years old right right around thirty. If not thirty on the dot that thirty years old they've won three championships like this. It's a wildly impressive organization and the personality of his organization really began in nineteen ninety five win Pat Riley got there, it is his and I say that to say not even know LeBron. James was about to become an in their like for real Telam, Pat Riley would do now know bre that's not that's not how that operates. Like, he is to the heat not terribly different really than Al Davis because like pats not coaching the team, but that's his coach, you know, and they certainly have disagreements about strategy and stuff like that and supposes own man. But that first year the Brahms there pair rallies at every practice. Like, I mean that dude. That's who we is problem. Muscling him that story that tells and that's clo- tells I think it was from a book that came out about Pat Riley, and LeBron's tenure there about that first year, LeBron and Bosh and Wade going up the Pat Riley's office and being like you thinking about coming back into coaching and him just being like go back and play those my guy. Yup. Yup. Like, that's the thing. Man. You not you weren't going muscle, Pat Riley, you know, and they wound up being really really successful as a result. But the only person that's really demonstrated repeatedly that he could give muscle by the bra, Dan Gilbert, he allowed all that to have you know, and LeBron figured out very early. This would be allowed. And so we maxed out on it. There's no there's no way around that. He got. The things he wanted under that setup because he could think Magic Johnson learned a whole lot of this game. From a lot is gay from Pat Riley and think about this pair Riley out here kicking it like he is a he just Pat Riley. He ain't magic right. Like, he doesn't have the heated not start this with the clout that Magic Johnson starts with. He just start this with the name. He didn't start this with the built in level respect. The Magic Johnson has he didn't match just looking at Pat Riley like I made you which by the way, not terribly incorrect. So LeBron wants Liuhua outta there. Don't get me wrong. Magic. Probably does it not because LeBron is muscling him as much as there is an understanding in the NBA that if you star player does not buy in to the coach, then is not gonna work. What Pat Riley? Did LeBron was basically say, hey, man, you might as well figure out how to buy. In because this is the guy that's going to be doing individually spoke earned his respect did a great job coaching. Those teams the first year not so much after that very much. So but spo- earn that respect that was there. It Magic Johnson designed to publicly push him. He only one put them on magic decide to put some heat on. You got. No question about that. That seems to be the case whatever LeBron don't really had no Broncos Laghouat at least. Thanks and right now right now, he does not. But if I'm LeBron if I do have a problem, Luke Walton, and I know that magic is already called him in. I don't say a word. I don't say anything bad about Luke Walton might not say nothing good. But I definitely don't say anything bad. And you know, why? Because it magic already shaky on Luke Walton, I don't have to expend a single bit of capital. I can just let magic come to ever conclusion. Magic is coming to see that's the thing that happens in the game. And you get up there. And you got something that you want you look up, and you realize that demand who got the real power. He actually wants the same thing. Say a word, right? They might listen because you want a damn Shogo listen 'cause he wanted go ahead. Let him do that. He ain't he doesn't have to spend a Feng at all. This is the conclusion that he is already drone led him draw away. Let them do it. All right as LeBron smart. That's the place. He's going to be in Luke Walton tier? I am going to play flew Walden. And here's the other thing too. Lebron knows what this year is like you might want to be better than it's going right now. Lebron knows it this year is there's no reason to put any heat on Luke Walton this year, you might wanna do some after the season. But you know, what this is this year? Right. You know, you're not going to be winning the championship. So go out here. And do what you can to get this thing rolling magic dude rest. Right. And trust me. Magic waiting for LeBron to give him his marching orders on Luke Walton if Lou LeBron walks in and like, yo I'll. Well, Lou wall in the stay magic, Mike keep them. Lebron walks in says, hey, I think the waldon's you go, Luke my go. But only of magic was filling that way in the first place because I guarantee you magical, listen to LeBron. But there's no way in the world of man. I Magic Johnson gonna put himself in a position where he looking at LeBron and LeBron looking at him and LeBron is the one who tells magic what to do you think magic foreign life getting getting getting boss around? But no, no, no, that's not gonna happen. So there's going to be some basic, this is how the NBA works stuff. Yeah. That kind of stuff is going to happen. But I feel very confident that the decisions that are going to be made will be made with input from LeBron. But the decision be made by mashing. All right. We'll be back to talk about Bill. Bella check in just a minute. But first these days, you can get practically everything on demand by the right time. You listen whatever you want win. It's convenient for you. Did you know you can even give postage on demand? All you need a stamps dot com. We're stamps dot com. You can access all the services at the post office right from your desk when it's convenient for you by print real US postage for any letter any package using your own printer. All available twenty four hours a day seven days a week just click print mail in. You're done without easy. It is. I don't really get. Why everyone doesn't do it already stands dot com? Believe essential a digital scales. 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And Bella check doesn't really do that. It doesn't really do. He doesn't do it at all. Yeah. And so bell Jack was asked why he does not wear the salute to service attire. You know, the stuff that you seem to coaches wearing the camouflage type stuff the army, green or whatever. And so I'm kind of surprised somebody as Bella check this. But this answer. I don't know man usually wear the same thing for every game. I mean, not the same thing, but dependent on the weather and so forth. Every game. Change based on. Is. Services, look military, and the jobs our servicemen and women do and sacrifices that they make are very important to name. I family always have always will be. Always wanna recognize those. So. Jackson. The with what anybody else does. The. Sweatshirt. Gordon tonight is what? What your actions are what you do. Try to make those count. Yeah. So a couple of things to no one is that people have long said that bell Jake is not fond of the NFL league office initiative league office since down he'll try to find some way to avoid or someway to not do because he's not with it. But this one I think was interesting, and I thought it was a good question. Because Bella check his dad worked at the naval academy and people who things about him like the military servicemen women and all of that. That's a really really big thing to him. And so one would think that he would be all in on what it is that the NFL is doing with the civil service. And so I found it interesting that he basically without saying, so he basically looked at that and wearing that in his like and. That's the that's that felt like the conclusion that he reached in looking at people doing all of that where he just looking up at. And he's just like I mean. And. As over me this kind of stands out. And if you've been listening to these shows that I've done for a while. This is a kind of a point that I make all the time. Usually around Veterans Day, I suppose that this is probably has a podcast of this format that will do before Veterans Day. So I guess it all ties together in that way. But I always feel an I'd I don't do enough myself on this actual cause. So I'm not really finger pointing in that way. But I do think that there is a kind of logic thought process that we need to think about as we do this which is. We collectively do a lot of like thank you for your service right needed. A little discount on your meal at golden corral. Oh, you know, along those lines with things that the gopher life, salute service and people really get into it in though, the where you know, where the coup shirts where are Baz the camouflage come flaws and everything like that. You know, as you know, this let them know we're thinking about them and stuff like that. And I've I've not talked to a lot of, you know, folks in the military about like how they feel about that I found the response that I've gotten about it is kind of mixed where there's certainly an appreciation for the acknowledgement and kind of, you know, this is ultimately a harmless form of it. No matter how you look at it. And so there's impregnation that comes for that. But also just kind of like, what are we really doing here? Because like I was looking at those those those hoodies. The coaches were wear and so they'll have like the two things like where the name plates are. And once is New Orleans and the other one says saints that's one Sean Payton head on. And I mean like is that are we honor of people or is that like Qasr play. You know, what are we what are we really doing? When we when we putting this kind of stuff out there. And I guess you come up with something that people are willing to buy. And then you say you give some of the money, you know, and all that stuff like they're those things there. But I look at what Bella Jake saying. He's like I mean, if that's what you guys want to do. But I think he said specifically about this. He said it was important to me. Are you accents which you do? So I tried to make those count. And so basically like the way I take that as saying I don't really have to put on the merchandise in order to show my pre she Asian for our servicemen and women. And. Around this time that thing I very frequently. Bring up is that a lot of folks that have gone serving comeback mandate hurt in their bed. They heard him bed. And I feel like we're all like kind of a wear. You know, I'm not telling you about anything. They don't really know. But. I mean, there's a lot. I talked to a guy went to high school with I've told the story many times. But I still think it it's worth here. Talked to dude I hadn't talked since high school, and he hit me up and this ad to be good like fifteen years at least after I graduated and als- doing I was like doing all right, man. How about you? And he said man, I'm just just dealing with PTSD out of nowhere. And so I asked him if he went to Iraq, and he replied, and he said, yeah, I saw in did some bleeped up bleep. Right. And like that that that stayed with me, you know, 'cause I one thing I think we forget about when we talk about life going war and stuff like that. Join the military man, we don't like we don't just ask people to witness death. Like, we ask people to also perpetrate it like, we we we ask a great deal that, you know, able so many times that we can put on a commemorative sweatshirt that's going like properly show on appreciation for what so many people are like legitimately asked to do under those circumstances. And so always hope and this is like no judgment of the NFL specifically or really I don't think any judgment necessarily been like one person specifically, but. I feel like the stakes on this for the people who actually have to go and do it so much higher than what we can do or what we're doing with these gestures that we perform. And that kind of make I think in a lot of ways us a collective feel good about ourselves because we feel like we are paying this level of Amish. Right. And so we do that. But man, like the money that goes to help these folks out when they come back man money gets staking cut. People. You know, you see outside train station, man. How many went away came back? We've never right again. Like just people just like legitimately and really struggling. And so, you know, when people want to sell products, like we see the commercials, always got this upstanding person in their uniform this, and you know, like a very noble picture that is cast. And so that is what we think because that is the thing that is easy for us to honor. But I feel like there's a whole lot of other pictures that are very important for us to acknowledge and the acknowledgement of those things to me is like really what I would say is the crucial thing to remember like if you have type of person that like legitimate like commemorates Veterans Day like goals the United goals for you know, because we don't have people doing television shows, and you know, it's to go out to bases. You know, we see that every year. Like, we do we. I mean, a big way that's not ESP. We I mean like a big American. We we do a great job with the pictures of people in like casting that using that as a time to cast an image and stuff like that and football in particular is a sport that we've absolutely it's wedded to like military notions in so many different ways. I just don't have time to fully explain right now. But I know like in Howard Brian's book, the heritage he add general Russell was Han raid the dude into waldon's. And he said he was like, hey, man. Part of why we advertise so much in the NFL is like we believe that like the next. Great war, your soldier like this is where he is. This is this is where we are going to find him. So there is a handing glove connection to to all of these things. You can't really separate them right about how you feel about anything. Good bad. Whatever you can't separate these notions. From one another. And just as we go along with football. And we now know more about like the pain struggles that people who played a game in door. I hope that we can remember a bit more, right? A bit beyond just a pre shaped your Ford just keep in mind all of us. Like, I always think is weird. You know? It's come around era agrees industry because his mother is like active officer in the military, which I think surprise some people, but that's its own different discussion, whatever. But that that's a different case than what I mention. But you know, people very often when it comes down to somebody who is protested, whatever it is in the first thing that you gotta do to explain to people that you not disrespecting the military. Is you come out, and you say, well, you know, I have family that's in the military, right? I family members who are in the military, and I feel like everybody does not everybody everybody. But that's that's like that's other. They just about anybody can say you can't get too many degrees separation. Is somebody's family tree without Noah somebody that has gone into the military for whatever reason that doesn't tell me very much that is all of us. But at the same time while it is all of us that I think that also means that we're all somewhat familiar with the toll that being in the military can exact on people. But I feel like that is not discussed so much. So in this time, and as I think about what Belgique said, and, you know, have lays out the NFL does this. And, you know, don't forget that we did have a point there with the NFL was charging the department of defense to do all this patriotism as they characterize it. Beyond the show, man. Let us not forget to remember the people. That's all. That's all right. Shout out to Michael Thomas. I still have no idea. What you look like feel bad about fact that I have no idea. What Michael Tom's looks like if I I'm sitting here right now gave I'm a picture of Michael Tom's. He plays for the saints about away. Those you don't know why receiver he is really really good. And he did thing with the telephone you remember that with the cellphone. He did thing with telephone gave do you know what he looks like I do. But there's nothing better than real time reaction. Yeah. Like, I'm fine. I'm I'm gonna get to it. I also before I get there. I want to make sure I'll pull up these absurd stats specifically for my mind. Thomas has seventy catches through eight games, seventy catches through a games. And from what I've read has the highest catch percentage, basically NFL history. And there is Michael Tommasi Ayler like Michael Thomas he'd be and cash noise to on the internet and all kinds of the places. He is a man who was here to be heard. His Twitter handle is can't guard Mike if I'm not mistaken like he. He is that dude. He just does one of the more anonymous jobs in the world, which is catching passes from troopers. Gave you know, Marcus Colston looks like. I don't. But he was kinda like didn't he make approval I'll Marcus goals? It was very very good. Log it here right now. I'd have no idea who he was right. Like, I need somebody to be wearing Barca's calls in jersey, a southern identified themselves as a member of Margaret's Colston's crew. I would not drew Brees. Like, I get to Michael Thomas. Drew Brees is never really given that many consistent fantasy options at wide receiver. There was a point where you'd have drew Brees drew Brees out there. And we boy rod would joke. Drew Brees got a fantasy team. And he don't dry none of his teammates because nobody will get the ball consistently. Oh, spread it around. Drew brees. Right. Not now. He does it to Michael Thomas, dude, all the time. He's really really good. I don't want to a little older. So these things happen. But did you remember when Joe horn did the cell phone thing back in the day? I did. Yeah. I wasn't. I wasn't that young. Okay. I I just I never know. Right. Like like, you just don't know when people get into different stuff, or whatever it was. But I feel a whole lot better knowing that that is not so antiquated when Joe hall I went into the goal post. And then he got the cell phone people love that. Oh, it's always good to ask though. Because everybody's sports consciousness starts at a difference. Right. But that was a part of my sports consciousness. Yes. Yeah. No, log at a point whacking soon that the windows overlap. You know, I had to be honest with me getting a wealthy. But that was people love that. When Joe horn did it, but I do have to bid he was a wild and doing that at the time a game that he did it we agree upon that. Oh, yeah. Glad that all worked out. But that was doing the most like you you can't be so caught up in this. Did you go? Do this winning matters. The best part about it though. For me was that he put cellphones under both. Yes. Goalposts wise play never know when it's going to happen. I will say it is though if you put it under one and called his shot that would have been pretty cold like if he put it. I guess the problem is you wouldn't know which one you go into it anytime because that's all the term about a coin flip. But not he I mean, a man that I'm here for two celebrations. I'm here for all of that. If they would've lost that game. We all head to come. I hear cloud him that would have been no way around like you had ruled a stupid and that at and everything else. But no, no, no, no, no. He was he was doing the most with with that one right there. Like if you're not good you get cut. It would be that kind of play. Did you see where he got to flip? And he said, yeah, he said he got it from like a liquor store. Right. As he said, he got it from a hole in the wall. Liga store now is a flip phone. Really hard to get. We gotta gotta works in the office here where security here, he got flip. Oh. That. Oh, I just think of burners. That's right. Yeah. Like a flip phone at this stage. Yeah. No was interesting because people are like. Like, it's not that hard to find one. Like they're around not everybody has a smartphone. And every day, I feel like the people who don't have smartphones at the ones who have the right idea. How much of having your smartphone is full allowing you to send things or for making the easier for you to receive things. I mean, people clown in me about having my old iphone, you know. But for me, it's like it's more about receiving than sending. I'm not much of a sender. Right. Yeah. But see that's how we Haslem backwards. We got here. Make it easy for people to give us work to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, we we are hustling back word. That's the thing. Like the flip phone. Why can't I go back to a flip phone life? I really think I really feel like they had ones who doing this correctly. And they still got him at the stores, some people some people still don't want that Email and stuff on the phone ain't got no use for. I still be here. Living f live phone line. It is. I appreciate the fact that the NFL has leaned in Lendu. Celebrate. Right. Like this. This is a small thing that they have done that makes them seem just a little less lane. And it's been helpful and people like the celebrations. They really really do. I do understand the slippery slope theory on the celebrations, though, it is somebody is to come up with south that whereas just like, okay. This is just a little bit too much of a production. Ed. Rollock here. It does appear that the youngsters in the league don't have the greatest gauge all the time on win. They should or should not go through with celebration. I feel like the celebrations have reached a whole 'nother level in kind of the recent window here where the becoming more and more and more choreographed by the year. Yes. This is only opportunity for expression because they aren't allowed to wear like cleats anymore that this is this is their bag, man. And I think they've come up with all kinds of things that are personally never ever would've considered. I just think sometimes you probably shouldn't consider when you like down by fourteen. The right time in a wrong time. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's one thing to do it when you're behind. It's another thing to do when you losing the differentiation between those two. So like if it seventeen nothing school at touchdown in the second quarter now seventeen seven all right. I think it's fair for you to go ahead and do that. But if it's twenty three and eight minutes left, and you've just cut it to twenty four to teen. Now, man, I think he's what ahead vaulted a referee. Like, I appreciate it. But I could understand how somebody else might not especially eight people. Kate everybody feel like. Got to be one dude as we probably we should probably just go. All right, man. Let's do it. And I think he's doing the dance routine from the video for new additions. If this isn't love, they work time. I think they spend on these things because they ain't just coming up with them. They have to be practicing, right? Got a choreograph that stuff. Yeah. How much time? Do you think they take? Would like to think that it's not anything more than like a few minutes. But you know, it's not, you know, it's gotta be at least a half an hour. Who's who's the guy who was like, I want perfection? Right. Because you know, there's one guy. Yeah. Guys, like, we go we get it. Right. Imagine to paint, man. And it was like a dance torque you imagine how much choreography and how much time they spend it on five six seven eight. Payment is not here for you to be slipping. No chanson world. There's no so Abbott. Maybe get on your grind. Oh, man. I mean, it's like when you're playing sports when you're little kid. I used to have a baseball coach that says we're burnin daylight out here. You know, we're not gonna go home until you guys. Get this one right? Imagine Peyton Manning holding up practice at the end. Yes, are not leaving this field to get this. Right. Okay. Five six seven eight. What if Bill Belichick patriots, you could dance? But only if it's perfect, and he stayed after practice every day in coach them on their dance steps the say way that he coaches them on a block it for. I'm never going to be able to get that image. Oh, yeah. No. I just think about that bad. He be there with the glasses on his forehead is ours. Folded like the whole died like this. This is this is what we need. We need a fischel dance coaches. I mean, I'm pretty sure that like the patriots are pretty adventurous in their music at practice choices. I think I've heard that before really because I would just expected they listen to a lot of like basically more than a feeling on loop. Yacht rock. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The locals provide the soundtrack somebody pulled over the allowed a big draw your rock like an like an east coast thing. Do you think is I never heard of yacht rut before I moved out here. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I I've heard of it as an east coast notion. I haven't heard of it as anything else. But dad, they like who would think would be imagine her med words if he was still coaching debut grooving to. If you're doing. You know, if you really want to celebrate the electric slide, you think that O'Brien would be a good dance. Coach. The older in crusty or the white guys. The funnier it becomes to imagine them doing it. Right. Or what if Andy Reid were to decide to break, the paradigm and bring up some things that the dances that people are doing in college. And then use them in the NFL or how about the guy who got famous on hard knocks for every time. You said hut like his gut moving. Yes. And then he imagined him leading some some celebration practice that Brown's practise. I'm Sally night. Let me think who I think might be like a better dancer than we would realize who is maybe a worst dance. Then he gets credit for you know, what things probably a worse dance than people think mauve and Louis, and you know, the only reason you involve Lewis condemn because he's black. Now, who do I think might be a better dancer than people give credit for which think about Sean McVeigh? He got some moves. No. I mean, just because him and little Shani in San Francisco. Doesn't mean that we know that they have dance moves. I think that's fair. Wow. What'd you think about Ron Rivera? I wanna say Pete Carroll's got some moves. Yeah. An old man. He he's pretty hip. He was coaching down at UC pretty live at practice. I wouldn't be surprised. How surprise would you be? If you saw Todd Bowles just in the middle of the dance vote. A big old smile on his face, cutting the room. Could you see it because I don't think I could. Yeah. I mean, he's as awkward as any of the other guys. Yeah. Yeah. It's a tough call. Let me see if I'm missing anybody that I think has them like dancing in a fill of potential Jon Gruden be dancing intense hill, we have to mention that. There's nothing in Oakland dance about at this point. Yeah, you got a point there. Yeah. They'll do still practices celebrations. Like, you're not I got. So they probably thought of pride celebrations early. Somebody's like forget it man Maureen even here, he we gotta train somebody new, you know, how to even do his part. Now, we can't even we can't even go there. How about Greg Williams used to dance, but as part of his new persona he is head loosen up a little bit in Ed this to his repertoire now that is quite a bit more believable. Because once you get the frosted tips going on glasses off, right? Maybe he's been taken some trip. Down south. And he's been taking some salsa classes who knows the right Jason Garrett. 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Otherwise known as our if our emitted by cell phones, could cause heart and brain tumors in rats. So should you be worried about these findings assuming that you are human here are some Covey outs won the study exposed entire bodies of Rach too far to those much higher than what cell phones typically amid to the study mimicked the ARA far from two or three T cell phones. The types us way back when Justin Timberlake was part of instinct three while people can be rats rats or not people biologically at least people may respond differently to such ARA for. So don't. Penick throw away your phones just yet. But keep in mind that our if our is not completely harmless more studies about the health risks of cell phones are needed. In the meantime, take proper precautions when using your cell phone such as one keep your cell phone as far away from your body as possible don't keep it in your underwear or strap it to your head to use a speakerphone or headset whenever you can three try to minimize situations that increase the afar such as when you have a weak signal or download lords files or stream videos for don't wear your headset. When you're not thinking call because they may still release are far five put your phone on airplane mode or turn it off whenever you can a cell phone is like a toaster. If it is turned off, it is less likely to hurt you six bay skeptical about our of our shields or other devices that claim to reduce your exposure, these may not work and may even increase the far finally be smart about cell phone usage may talk to you. Or even compliment you. But a cell phone is still just. The machine and not a real person. He said don't panic. Then gave me a reason the Pedic I'm shook professionally with the knowledge here. This is what we needed to hear. This is why we're making the world a better place here with the segment. Yeah. No, I'm I'm officially shook and middle initial ain't gonna throw me off the scent. Gave his name is Bruce Lee. I would I would tell people every time I gender Bruce Lee. I love nothing more. That'd be neighbors league. I don't know why I loved other board. It'd be day. Bruce lee. I'm in certainly when you have children that thought should cross your mind, right? As far as the naming of your your child, and what's immediately going to be connected to it. Right. I have a hard time. And I don't know. How old professor Lee is. But yeah, I feel like when you name you Bruce Lee he is destined for greatness. That is that's what they're telling you, right, then. And there man, I'm glazed professor at Johns Hopkins. I'm very good. I'm very glad because he he made it into a place becoming of being Bruce brutally now. After hearing, you know, professor lease cautions. Here. Are you going to change your behavior when it released your cell phone at all I feel like I have to? I gotta do whatever. Bruce, lisa. I mean, here's the thing. You see a lot of you see people sometimes doing the speakerphone thing. Whether it's at work or out in public. I'm more of kind of like a iphone ear buds years type of guy when I'm talking on the phone, but certainly causes concern was a ten year study that they just released the findings on just now. Shook that's all. All right, though. This next story comes from geography chevaux Grady from the Washington Post in two thousand fourteen the Japanese government gave names to around one hundred fifty eight uninhabited islands. It was part of an effort to ensure they were recognized as part of Japan, and perhaps more importantly that the water around them was too. But one of those islands now seems to have disappeared Japanese newspaper Asahi Shimbun reported last week that a small islet wants seem close to the village of Sarah foot sue is no longer visible at all it was author Horatio Shimizu who I flagged that the island. Just wasn't where it was supposed to be. He was researching book project when he realized he couldn't find the territory when he asked a local fishery they acknowledged there had indeed wants been an island nearby. But no one had seen it for a while. The Japanese coastguard is now planning to launch a search for the territory which hadn't been surveyed since nineteen eighty-seven. Coastguard officials have told a number of news outlets. It's possible that wind and snow are to blame for its version, and that it disappeared below sea level, but they don't seem to worried about how it will affect Japan's territorial waters. One official told ashlin. Press that it would only be notable in an extremely precise geographical survey. Dude, they're talking about either. Like, a keychain you see it. Yeah. Well over there. But I see it in a while. What? I guess if there are no like official inhabitants of said island that is difficult thing to documents. But I'm asking how fast did it. Disappear. Where people are like. Oh, yeah. There was an island over there. People people clearly have a recollection of the island. Now, it's gone. When did it disappear? Gosh. I mean, it really does bring to life the analogy of if a tree falls in the forest sound just want to know when it happened. I have to correct myself there if a tree falls in the fours. Nobody's there to hear it. Does it make a sound? But not even where to go rhino crazy alien stuff. Just. Nobody was just like iota island. Didn't it used to be bigger? Right. Like, you got at least go to the up the mile just to get a cheque, right? Yeah. I mean, there's so many parallels. Here it is fascinating though that this can happen in in twenty eighteen. Yeah. I'm it used to be an island. Used to be. Wow. All right. Our last story from if you haven't heard comes from tech. My name is Peter Holly. And I'm a reporter at the Washington Post covering technology. My latest story is about a new company that is using robots to deliver people packages. It's called starship technologies. Now, if you live in Washington DC or Redwood, California, you may have seen one of these robots before they look like a mixture of an igloo cooler at a slow cooker. They've got six wheels. They're white. They move about four miles an hour, and if the last year or so you've been able to order meals for them and how them deliver them straight to your house. Apparently, the food delivery service was very successful. It led the company to unveil plans last week to broaden its delivery service beyond food to include packages that led the company to declare itself, the world's first robot package delivery service. So a robot delivery service sounds cool. But you might be asking yourself. What's the point by giving customers control when deliveries occur? Starship technologies is pitching it services a way to combat package. Stuffed in their announcement. The company cited statistics from Whitefield research last year that found that three and ten Americans live in houses are townhomes have had packages stolen. So the service costs about ten dollars per month and starts by downloading the company's app. Once you've done that all of your normal packages. We'll get redirected to one of the starship technologies facilities. Once that happens. You'll receive a text notification that allows you to schedule a home delivery via robot starship technologies is beginning their robot delivery in the UK and then coming to the bay area later this year starship technologies robots will be competing with Amazon UPS and Google all of which are betting on drone delivery. The question for all of us. Alternately is going to be do you want your packages delivered by a robot in the air or robot on the ground? All right. So they said it is a help combat package. The you tell me you can't rob a robot. Well, have you seen have you seen the picture of these things check right now, these things are serious? And you know, that was my initial concern. But this was like I'm thinking about a little. Go go-cart driving around my block. And I was like man I could just driving down the street, and it's got a little shake shack bag sitting on the top. I get that thing right off the top. No problem. And then I was like, wait a minute here. These are actually like little tanks. Did you ever watch the show battle Botts? Yeah. Or have you heard? I mean, that's what I was. Wow. Like a crock pot on wheels. Yeah. And now the next level of this thing is going to be when these when they become like battle bots really got some like defense going on. Yeah. But I still feel like robbed it. I guess I mean Peter would saying that, you know, your choices going to have to be by aero by Lance the drone is a little less easy to stop. I mean, unless people are going to start putting anti aircraft step up their house. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody's gonna get Jay hardway. Like, you try to go. Rob that robot is actually got an electric fence around it. Somebody please believe somebody. Try Jag a robot. A and I want to see it. They had a robot. If they go into robots to all neighborhoods, be afraid of future be very afraid. Oh, yeah. Hey this Bomani. You have reached the right voicemail, say whatever you want get creative with it. But this place to talk back to show back base. All right, Bo. So this may have been our most successful voicemail segment of all times and turn of of volume of messages in total. So we may have to do a part to but we put out for when you got most up on one by future pro or like a future college star. And you took a now and people really took our advice on this one. I'm I'm actually quite impressed because we came away a few weeks ago being disappointed at people taking but people love taking these big time. And our first one comes from Jabbar in Atlanta. From Atlanta story involve Iran, collars. Around collars, played a chance for years, all Americans. Just a little bit. But. So we baseball. And. Around play baseball. Play catch. The game. So. A really bad game three times. So. All. Three. Sit down. Back everyone on their whatever the Doug on. Okay. So. With the basketball fever later on year around like November. All team like way better team had been playing in the pre game. Play. The hit me. On the holy black baseball. Get ready to play. Like the circle around taking everybody hand. Yeah. The catcher like, yeah. Smile. So. Those up. He can move out real quite. Going back on the court. Some day. And I finally got. Every time. Other. He merely. Hi. Like every time. He saw me visit attack. Yeltsin is looking to create. This is this one was unbelievably good it was a little long. But there's so much context here early makes the end really really sinking circuit this next. One comes from Mike in Philly. Hey, Mike stories about pro basketball. So. Undergrad and I would go to. Three. Pretty much. Four times we primarily on like Friday afternoon. So I get up there. Will graduate and? Saying was traffic for like three or four years. Okay. You know, I was on the team, athletic, whatever. I play. And you know. Her whatever back. Hired. But when I switch, so I'm back. And I'm guarding my hand out on six four six five. You know? And puts up the. So. And he went right around posted in for reverse. Came back on a defensive end dead. The. Up there. You big dummy. There's a moment in all of these words like now, it's go time. And I just want to be there for that. I wanna see. You picked you. Right people. Forget about same young same young boss there for a second day twenty four years old. He was an early balder. Yes. His that that pit team was something him into on Blair. Yeah. They were good. Yeah. This last one comes from Chris in Detroit. Cricket from. Takes place game still wanna Oklahoma that in college around two thousand three four. I'm on a course next couple of the dorm. One of my life playing. Class really? Good. To play because politics and all but. And then. Alley. Final four. But you know, he's out here actually eating because do that somebody plan around and stuff, and then who's got next point? Irrational confidence. And so I'm talking to gotta stop. You know, you know that. Whatever you want it. So we get out of court. And I'm thinking, I'm just a few long range. Yeah. You know, and then. In my life. Before. But. I don't know what it was about this particular day. He did one on any noise from you know. Feller Sony clamps on me. I've never seen longer here bigger. The twelve feet tall in knife. Why get around? Could go over them. Everywhere. Everyone. I realized that you know that. About by fighting to get out of Chicago. That's true. Me too. Douse the difference fit. I wasn't expected the clan. The thing about Tonio into is like people see him as an NBA player. Just think of him as a defensive stopper, if he's a defensive stopper of these NBA guys. Imagine trying to score on him, you know, up until that point. Well, I'll tell ya. It was like big twelve player of the year. Like he's got like guarding. Tony Allen with no big, Nick. But oh God being guarded by Tony Allen. This left assay when players make it to the NBA. It's like they're known for something that they're like the best at like he's known for his defense or other players are known for his offense. But it's like don't doubt that game. They're NBA plays for crying out. Yeah. They had to be able to do other stuff. Good too. I said that the other one was the last one. But this one's a bone is one from an internationalist or to the right time Zellecks and Cameron. So over here in Cameroon this this misconception. That Luke is not a good offensive player because most people have washed plan the NBA. He's considered a good defender. People don't think offensively. Now, I played college ball school in England had a scholarship to Farley in the states. But I played in England for few years played semi professional level in England. So I know there's a massive difference between a pro player and irregular Amitai. But we heal people think Luke is not a good offensive player. So he organizes these open runs when he's done here in the summer, and at this one open on this guy was just talking trash the whole time this guy considers himself a good shooter. He could sit as himself a great point shoot over here. So he's talking trash to say how can shoot and his team Mesa cycle him let him shoot because he's a lot of shooter. So he picks up full court. Look dribbles straight down the middle of the court hates his guy between the lakes crossover. Step back kneels three in his face from like three feet beyond the hole. Jim goes nuts, guys like seating. Like, he's getting pistol next time on the court. Luke lifts out of court back some down. Now, I'm thinking he's going to back him down old away to like onto the best laid up backs down to three dribbles. We've versus fadeaway three in his face. This guy loses his mind, the whole James a hand swearing takes off his shirt and walks out the gym and didn't come back. Luga Babu, even he got moves at you guard. And why do people always have to take their shirt when they leave in June? I don't know. Why mad? He just bad. And there were there were so many good ones so many wins. It was really hard to bring it down to just three days. We we might have to. I mean, we got stories on Vince Carter. Leonard. We come back next week. Let's get some oil. If we if we got that much quality material, I feel like we should get people what they will. Oh hundred percent ad to Jalen, boys. Gentlemen. Thanks for joining us here on the right to staying here. Twice a week ma-ma. Gabe, essay, head of everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Thanks to spots stamps dot com. Indochino also, thanks to those who contributed for if you haven't heard professor Bruce wildly check out his story at Forbes dot com with a cell phone giving people cancer face the Peter Holly at the Washington Post. Check out his story. I'll package is being delivered by robots at Washington Post dot com. 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C.R. Grimmer reads Boylesque

The Poetry Magazine Podcast

13:17 min | 1 year ago

C.R. Grimmer reads Boylesque

"This is the poetry magazine podcast. I'm don share editor of poetry magazine. I'm christina puke consulting editor and i'm lindsay carpet associate editor editor this week. We spoke with cr grammar in seattle washington. I was raised. Pentecostal knows younger and i'm obviously like a queer non binary from person now so a lot of my work is kind of cycling through these old testament master narratives for their forthcoming book called. Oh zeki was wife. Life grimmer created a character named based on ezekiel scripturally unnamed wife the character also speaks to what the sound of oh conjures you know men having having wives. I have kids that then become husbands wives at have kids and thinking about the different types of gender expression in the different sort of relationship nations ships. We can have to each other that. I think are traceable. If you really returned those scriptural references grimmer uses the term repetitive reading eating after the scholar eve sedgwick. It's one method of reevaluating the common readings of judeo christian texts using these different. Oh sort of sound incantations incantations can also be a way to explore the presence of non binary gender and sexuality in these larger master narratives in the poem. Homeboy grimmer deftly weaves judeo christian references with life experience. The poem was written after the eagle creek fire in two thousand seventeen of wildfire wildfire in oregon and washington that burned fifty thousand acres of forest. It was started by a fifteen year old boy on a family camping trip who ignited fireworks during during a burn ban. My friend invited me to this burlesque show or queer burlesque and i never been before and i was actually debating going out because of the wildfire that had happened and all of the smoke luke air from that we were standing outside and we were talking about the wildfires and then we go into this theater and it suddenly air conditioned. The air is clean. There's there's like this kind of lush velvet everywhere and brocade and these elaborate dinners kind of set before as with cocktails. This is where grimmer had their first experience of boil oil. Ask and this gender person came out in a sort of peter pan pied piper outfit and the music was kind of lilting and playful and they would slowly take gough different pieces of clothes but they would also like prance around and sort of dance and wink and laugh at and with the audience as they did it and it really couldn't get the image image and like the things that i was excited by seeing bojnice performed and like the possibilities of leaning into those parts of myself which on the surface or maybe intention with with all of the concerns around bojnice and boyhood and how that kind of was part of what caused this wildfire here cr grimmer reading boil ask that summer smoke gorged itself on sky to silver sleeves of boy flung fire hungary ravines echoed the stop don't rush rocks rough-hewn shrubs burning bush that summer one after the last clearing orange to blue animal brains wet as walnuts slabs refusing to burn between us. Stop look if i could pause the oh wild here. You would choose me over people oiled blackberries. Purple ing are wet hands pressed to wetter lips. Only you could stop the smoke signals listening through the rain in this pause you could who'd ask how do you autopsy branch. Oh ash already peopling the sky that that was the summer before an for proceeds chic and if i could freeze our branching away if i could take dead coral off walls if i could pull all of it back back to us to ocean to ice oh humidity committee would hold still between us our bodies luminous as heat snapping through clouds electric eels echoing elsewhere. Oh oh oh oh well. There's so much going on this poem but if you're listening to it hearing it for the first time you've got to be blown away by the language and the textures and the sounds and just erupting finally into those final for those that are so powerful powerful out on their own like that. There's so many wonderful continental lines as well. I feel like that's the first impression impression of this poem. I mean it really arrests you with its sounds and its language. Yeah i love in particular the other repetitions in this poem in addition to the host of the things that stood out most to me were the repetitions of people and branch so the idea that in this sort of apocalyptic elliptic scene with the smoke gorging itself on sky instead of people that would be chosen. It's ashed that's peopling the sky. The idea that nature has taken over and in in a way this sort of people in line has stopped and that happens too with the branch because the first line is how do you autopsy a branch and then if i could freeze our branching away the idea that the sort of family ancestry that they talked about in the introduction with father and son and then father and son son as instead this branch has been cut off its died and we don't know what happens from here and that sort of mystery is invoked with that repetition of the oh so at the end to it's it's what do you praise when all of that has gone away. I think also the contemplation of bojnice which which has kind of really dangerous mystery to the sort of a finer even non-existent line between mischief and disaster boys that play with fire play with matches fireworks especially when there is drought or other atmospheric conditions. It's kind of thing that we're familiar with from the news. All the time that a small incendiary act creates a sort of enormous change approach in the viability of our own climate and environment and what do you do while these disasters happen what kind of script you follow oh and that's an intriguing connection that she makes between observing the sort of prancing and dancing and going to the bojnice of of this type of repetitive disaster that seems to be underlined by the quotation marks used around boy when we see it early in the poem to silver sleeves of boy in quotation marks flunk fire and you know the idea of this is how we might think of boy. This is the concept of boy. This is what's partially being worked out on the poem and what's fascinating mm two is that those quotation marks return to the last iteration of oh so there's that really interesting graphing <hes> via punctuation that connects boy and also that interesting characterization that's happening where oh is the wife of ezekiel according to this narrative being created by the series of homes but i'm also thinking that there is is an iteration of oh as apostrophe in the lyric home and the idea that working out boyhood may may also be connected with working out address or apostrophe in a lyric poem is amazing to me how many concepts concepts and issues and problems are being worked through in this poem but in such a beautiful way yeah i was thinking here about that connection between the boy in quotation marks and the oh as well especially in terms of the atra calorie and performance so the idea when someone says oh you think of it as like a very dramatic gesture like oh the heat oh the wind and that here the title of the poem is boy less so it's it's interested in the performance of boyhood. Instead of just revealing are reveling in the body. It's also revealing and rebelling in the nature of like what a boy is and what a boy means and so oh to think about both boy and oh as these sort of like theatrical performances instead of just something taken for granted. I think is really interesting in the work that this poem does i think i think the performance of stuff is really fascinating. The the sort of movement of bodies that gets <music> set into motion for all kinds of reasons whether they are dramatic because something is unfolding or erotic or all these things intertwined his air in the poem really <unk>. I think resonate with most former boys i remember when i was a little kid. I was with some kids in a fire started to happen. What i remember about that was it was a very small wasn't that big a deal and we weren't trying to cause trouble but <hes> it got out of hand and a little a little bit of a fire starts to get big and what i remember number about. It was these fathers. All the fathers in the neighborhood came running with shovels and pay bills. I mean it was astounding that the the theatricality in the physical movement of it always stayed with me because you know it's sort of like what they mean when they say you're playing with fire. It's you know it really is rick very large and i never quite knew how to think about that because such an odd chain of events when you lose control of something like that and that idea of losing control is fascinating to people not just boys and i think this palm really really gets. I've never actually seen anything that gets at that. 'til 'til now with this poem home that really resonated for me to the way in which fire burning operating on so many different levels and registers in this poem including the burning bush that allusion going back to the hebrew bible and the notion that there is this <hes> california a wildfire burning being brought into that sort of highly elusive moment. I think is just really terrific. It's like a prism mm-hmm of fire and burning. That's that's happening in the history of literature poetry and also very contemporary. It is very contemporary. I love to how redeems the oh which is such a sort of time more facet of english language poetry in there as the the old joke about dylan thomas who would sit in his writing shack for hours on end and put the letter down on a page and then he would take a breaking go to the puck because that was the day's as works getting no oh onto the page but that but but it's the enormity of that in a small letter or vowel sound becomes become sick expansive as it does here in a very new way i mean that's surprising to you see our grimmer is a poet scholar and lecturer teaching at the university of washington. They host the poetry blog a coalition. Listen building youtube and podcasts series. You can read boil. Ask in the september twenty nineteen issue of poetry magazine or online at poetry magazine dot org. We'll have another episode for you next week or you can get all september episodes all at once in the full length podcast on soundcloud. Let us know what you thought of this program police rate and review us on apple podcast or if you listen to another way email us at podcast at poetry foundation dot org we'd love to hear your thoughts if you're not yet a subscriber to the magazine and you really should be one for a limited time. We're offering podcast listeners a special rate of twenty dollars. That's twenty dollars for are full year of the freshest voices in contemporary poetry featured in eleven book-length issues as well as free digital access on our mobile app visit poetry magazine magazine dot org slash podcast offer to subscribe. That's poetry magazine dot org slash podcast offer the poetry magazine podcast is recorded by ed herman amount and produced by rachel james. The theme music for this program comes from the claudia quintet. I'm lindsay garba. 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I Fall To Pieces

Bad In The Boondocks

32:42 min | 10 months ago

I Fall To Pieces

"Their own today's episode bad in the Boondocks. We talk about the Redstone Colt and Lam Kwok. Klay you're listening to bad in the boondocks baby. Talk a look bad in the bill before we get started with today's episode. We WanNa tell you. Just a little bit. Abou- Popcorn who is our sponsor for this week's episode. Popcorn is a marketplace that connects podcasters to amazing podcast sponsorship opportunities such as host read ads interview segments topic discussions and much more with popcorn. There's no middleman. Podcasts of all SAAS CAN BROWSE AND CHOOSE. Opportunities right on the platform set their own rates and collaborate with brands directly without any excludes do teas and most importantly you never give up any rights to your podcast and popcorn. Is there to support you at every step and ensure that you're protected and compensated for the work that you do for brands? Click the link in my shown us to sign up to par corn in sort browsing sponsorship opportunities. Thanks popcorn all right. Hey and welcome to bad in the Boondocks as always I am one of your host stand and I am drew. How's it going? Everybody going pretty good dribbling. I wasn't asking you but that's okay. Well I think I'm go ahead get right on into what while you or being very boring today. I can assure you that. Please take out instagram. And look bad and boone accusing you will find this there We have funny things on their different things and mom cases that we do every week so go and check that out font if you want to be born in go go for a ride ahead and into the case. That's fine but I'M A. You normally has some some type news during the week but I guess you're too boring sir. Go ahead go ahead while I'm doing. The red stalled cult of the round king. I Love Colts as very unknown quote. But how could a colt terrazas small Arizona town for over a decade and get away with it? That remains the subject of a lot of debate. Expecially among the survivors were there. There are some that. Say that a solid sense of Arizona. Independence kept people from calling for hill from the big cities that they preferred death and torture to the dishonor of accepting aid from Takeda City. Slickers more not. That doesn't want just continue that. They didn't want people from city folk common and helping them. Okay okay that that better understand. Jesus Jesus well if you just explained it whenever I other say that fear among the locals overwhelmed all sense of reason and with a single road manned and fortified to prevent escape caused an entire town to turn into a prison camp with the puck lipstick aims and there some who whisper much more quietly that it was because they were willing collaborators in the monstrous Hort was the redstone coked how Crown King Arizona a former mining town in the bradshaw mountains could've been hailed by fanatic band of self destructive flesh. Mutilates is up for debate her but what is not up for debate as what happened on October. Fourteenth of nineteen eighty on that day a United States Air Force F sixteen from Luke Air Force Base lost. Its armed payload somewhere. Over the sky of the Bradshaw Mountains. The payload was a pair of five hundred pound. Gravity bombs officially. They slipped because of a mechanical failure on a training mission. They supposedly fell harmlessly away from man and beast in Thin Forest Crown Kings melons. The Air Force report commenced the weather for burning of forest fire. Thanks to a rather rain-soaked October. According to their force it was a mirror accident. Cold War oversight in an era full of loss bombs and training mishaps but according to the law of Crown King. It was a deliberate military operation designed to obliterate an unnatural E. poll brought into this world by the redstone coke everything but the payload drop remained out of the newspapers. That's testament not only to the effectiveness of the official narrative but also the confusion of the unofficial these unofficial narratives agree only a handful of facts and a few events and it's difficult to get a real account of the coal. What is generally agreed upon that cult? Began Back East in the nineteen twenties. Either Boston or New York. By Group of philosophers convinced that World War. One had opened a great psychic wound. That would bring about cataclysmic. Hor this horror is described as consuming force and a restoring one regardless of its intent. It was a world shaping force that would ultimately see the end of civilization discovering. A rare reddened Jim. In the Archives of some unknown university the Colt had named themselves the redstone faith and they set about compiling an even more elaborate and confusing system of beliefs designed to compel the entry of the force they worshipped during the Second World War they migrated further west certain that psychic damage of another world war produced conductive conditions to carry out their grotesque plot. They settled in Nevada in the late. Nineteen forties and found themselves drawn ever closer to the spectacles of the atomic bombs set off in the desert but in doing so they came to the attention of the US government who found their interest in atomic warfare. Too close to Communist subversion in nineteen forty nine several members of the cult were rounded up by the FBI. The crackdown shook the Colt to its core. And where before it was group of learned men and women from academia the experience of arrest and release left mini disillusioned especially as the nineteen forties became the nineteen fifties and a lot of the colts. Central ideas failed to come. True atomic bombs did not unleash their God. Hor Nor did bloody wars elsewhere seemed to create the psychic tear that was necessary to fulfill the prophecy by the nineteen sixties. There were only a handful of believers who had retreated into the Arizona hinterlands and had settled on the small former mining town of crown king. Here they were found by Dr. Maximilian Forster forster a loss Angelino. Who had lost? His medical license was an extreme believer in the psychic. Potential of destruction of the human body amp persuaded many young people in the tumultuous nineteen sixties to follow him to his own retreat in the California desert but the watchful eye of the law loom too closely over his shoulder especially in the wake of the Manson family murders in nineteen sixty nine. He decided to take his followers to the hidden highlands of Arizona and air discovered the work of a bustling redstone coat in crown king forced or saw the media. Potential in their goals emerged his own cult. Would there's forster was a deviant with an obsession with the refashioning of the body into extreme distortions of sale? His surgical tools were often at work cutting and slicing and just sticking together different followers. Who were rarely allowed anesthesia? He would just cut off body parts of Tajik other people's bodies and he was trying to create a very specific talked of Human. He was also powerfully. Charismatic will and by the Early Nineteen Seventies. He had taken charge of not only the red stone cold but much of the town of crowned king who lived in fear of his dictates forrester produce the most monstrous of experiments to fulfil the redstone bloodlust. And while for a time he had a steady stream of tortured volunteers he eventually was forced to impress members into the service of his bloody duties. One such experiment was described by survivor. The incident apparently took place in nineteen seventy five at the height of the colts power. Martin Walterman crowned King President attended a public surgery. His version of events are recorded on a now deleted. Gio cities blog on Arizona Har- they were last retrieved and not two thousand and four. This is his description then. The sheriff stopped visiting the Bradshaw. An own account of the rumors and the lack of wealth flattened tires and smashed windows at convinced the sheriff that patrolling the mountains wasn't worth it that left autre forster in charge and with his inner circle of Red Hood's he was unleashed people who tried to leave town got caught more often than not though a couple did slip away in the early days. And if you got caught trying to escape. That's when he put you on the slab the slab that was on the edge of town near their cabin that they used as their temple. It was outside and the trees just a big flat natural raw pretty close to the ground you had to crouch down to touch it but forced to her rigged up a table that sat over the slap he said was a sacred site. Nobody could approach it. But the red hoods and force term. Self nobody wanted to anyway on account of the smell and the things that happened there just after we got confirmation that the sheriff wouldn't send deputies are way anymore. Forster announced a big ceremony at slam celebration for all the good work that had been done to kids. That couldn't have been more than twenty. Were to take part. They were California kids. Pretty new to the Bradshaw Lord up with the office offers of sex and drugs by Red Hood Recruiter. They've been indulged like all the other new recruiters were. We'd was in steady supplies forrester kept a good crop of it a magic mushrooms. But now it's time to pay for all the free forster head them standing side-by-side naked and that particular night. Nobody felt confident. Stay home included the whole town hundreds of a crowded around the slab. The two kids a Yo man and the young woman were set down on the table. Their arms and legs were tied together. Forster stood over them. Surrounded by the red hoods and said something in a weird language he always spoke then he said flesh is flesh. We open it to open gates. That's when the cutting began those kids. They screamed I don't know if they knew what was going to happen. They were pretty new but there wasn't any mistaken at now as forster slice them on their skin then he would take the skin off of one and it on the other back and forth back and forth heat so a patch of skin. Then pull it off. Stick it to another place. Pull it off and stick in another place. They both passed out after a while. That was looking at them though. The Red Hood's kept trying to wake him up. We all sat in silence. By that point. We'd seen enough things like this to avoid making a comment. I guess what was different. This time around was the finale. When those two kids were too far gone to manage even a word forced or stood over them soaked in blood and took a giant knife and plunged into the young man's chest. He pulled it down real slow and by the time he was done. There was two halves of the boy. The boy he woke up and gave a short screen. There wasn't much point after that. Far stuck random. Bits of the boy onto the girl so them up in place and sent her away to the recovery ward. All things considered it wasn't so much the mutilation that stuck with me. It was the fact that the girl woke up just as they were leading her away. Harare show only had one good eye by this point shot open and I think most expected scream but instead she limped over to forster with all those body parts dangling offer and she will. She hugged him and she said pretty. Clearly thank you and I swear to my dying day. She had a glow to her. That seemed well. It wasn't there before. In the late nineteen seventies forster's experiments grew even more bizarre and cruel yet for years view. Heard from crowned. King few fled and a steady stream of recruits from other states. Work their way up the long road into the Bradshaw's single exile in nineteen. Seventy eight is on the record. Impress God is reporting the mysterious Colt behaviors of the redstone to the sheriff's office but the sheriff dismissed the incident as a drug induced tippy invention. It would take a bigger event than the ramblings of half mad citizens to arouse the authorities in early. Nineteen Eighty Luke. Air Force Base detected an odd radar. Were there shouldn't have been any. It inspired a cursory investigation of crown. King the site of military men arrived in Crown King Alarmed Forster. Who was convinced that the government would soon sweep in on the court? He accelerated the pace of his experiments believed that he was closing in on his final goal. He did not have to wait long in summer. Nineteen eighty the air force convinced something. Nefarious was afoot SIP military police to arrest those associated with odd radar signal forest or had armed his handful of surviving followers. Most had already died because of his experiments and ordered them to hold off the. Mp's a short gunbattle ensued and which several soldiers and followers were killed but forster ended up in custody. But there wasn't much of forster left to interrogate. His mind was already blown through with his obsession with the redstone. He babbled incoherently chapters about sights and sounds that made little sense. Moreover there was something dramatically changed about Him Forster. You see him. Non escaped his own experiments. His form his body was mutilated now and his appendages were mangled by self surgery forster's condition rapidly deteriorated and doctors insurgents did what they could to keep them alive but his body how bad off it was gave out just hours after his arrest. What did not him was the radar signal which went from a simple blip to a recurring pattern. Repeated investigations turned up. Nothing at the site of the Redstone Colt. Nothing besides buried bodies and remnants of the horror of Forster's Thomas Death leader even the mythic redstone had vanished but still the signal droned ono in late September of nineteen eighty ham radio operators around the world began to detect the signal and on October. Four th the U. S. S. R. Formerly complained to the United States that a domestic signal was beginning to interfere with the operation of its satellites crowned King was abuzz with Military Intelligence as the Air Force interviewed witnesses and compiled as much information as that could about the redstone coke. The more information they gathered the more alarmed the military at what was clear was that the radar signal was not a natural event but a deliberate act by the redstone coke. Its exact location was known but repeated. Investigations turned up no direct source. It was just ever-rising radar thome and a steep drop in temperature the complaint by the Soviet Union. Spur the air force brass to action on October fourteenth alone. F16 jet lost its payload over the Bradshaw's and the signal quick well almost ever so often the signal associated with the Bradshaw's would on occasion flicker baton alive just for brief moment. Often these flickers would be associated with some kind of tragedy a bus accident near on the nearby interstate or fatal fire. They usually did not last long but they kept on recurring year after year. Almost as if about to door had been weakened and that which was behind it was steadily pushing inwards with each moment almost like a socket tear. Okay well I found it very disturbing that. The man cuts off pieces of the bodies and then cuts off though. The one sows each other. That's messed up. Not One normal human being does especially not to yourself. Yeah that's hello on on there and just see him. When an armed England inbetween his chest yes could well Tennessee like a finger dangling whereas penis is supposed to be or penis on the forehead. I'll be something. Excuse me sorry you have a dick on your okay on a what's Peon. Jesus Christ Clich Bowser. Don't WanNA get your mouth. I'll think we'll take a short break now. And then when a root comeback I'll tell my story and we're back after that two seconds that you had to sit through sorry about that okay. I'm going to be talking about lamb. Walkway lame quickly. A M Kakuei. He was a taxi driver and uses cab as a hunting ground for female victims. Wasi American will obviously not February third nineteen eighty two lamb picked up female passengers outside of a restaurant named. I'm I'm just gonNA tell you Gus. I'm going to absolutely butcher some of these names. Sim Shaw Sue. Symtas her to see was Chan fung lamb she and met her sister and a few friends after work for some drinks as lamb drove chan asked him to pull over. She opened the door and threw up on the street. She had too much to drink obviously and wasn't feeling well said of continuing on the original route. She told Lamb to take her back to the restaurant. But after a few minutes changed your mind again without any planning lamport over the taxi and strangled Chan with the piece of electric wire he had had with them. He drove her to his family's home and dismembered her body and took photographs. This I kill will be the high. He tried to replicate it. Replicate again and again well. The next seven months lamb would strangle mutilate perform necrophilia and photograph. He did with three more victims including performing. Necrophilia owned his victim's corpse after that first murder he got serious. He would tell police later that he brought he bought. Special Jesus Christ specialist equipment to dismember including surgical instruments. He also obtained formaldehyde so he could revert preserve the trophies. He wanted to keep from his victims taking risk and getting off well. Lamb used a camera with film to photograph victims and their body parts. He didn't develop the film himself so he had to take it. Take them to various photo shops to be processed one twenty dropped off the negatives a technician question about what he saw on the prints lamb shrugged it off saying that it was a lab technician at the university and the photos. Were for Medical Research August Seventeenth nineteen eighty to a manager called police at a Hong Kong Kodak Shop in Mong Kok. The manager told police that a man had come in with a roll of film that dictated that depicted female bodies. In various states of dismemberment. The photo showed a woman naked and a close ups of body parts. The technician believed they look staged as if for porn for pornographic means the seven. The severed breast photo proved. These were not casual photos but something sick and sinister when police talked with lamb. He said the photographs were taken by friend. Who worked on the ship? He swore this friend would meet. Meet them shortly but when the friend did not arrive. Police took lamb home to his parents house on Koa Chow Street where his family was sitting down to dinner. They performed a search on the residents and found in the bedroom. Land shared with his brother and ammunition. Box inside of the box were photographs of dismembered body. Parts in the search they also located videotapes of dismemberment but the most shocking fine was tupperware containers that hailed female. Jonah's inside preserved formaldehyde. Another container hailed a severed breast lamb. Built UP TO MURDER I. He bought a camera and snuck into women's restrooms and when aim the camera under a stall door and snap photos but women started chasing him down the street screaming at him afterwards. He had stop. He was afraid of getting caught. Well at first police believe that the whole family was involved and arrested not just lamb but his father and brother but after his brother attacked him imprisoned. Lam told officers that it was only him involved in the crimes that his family had nothing to do with lamb explained that with the first victim Chan. He had driven her home in his taxi. The street was empty at five. Am when he got home and he just carried her inside past the sleeping nightwatchman inside their flat. He claims that he shoved her body under the SOFA and then went to bed while he waited for his family to wake up after they left for work he got up and covered the bedroom floor. He share with this brother in plastic and dismembered the body in there. He said he use electric saw to cut up. The body took photos while he worked after she was cut up and wrapped. He placed the pieces in the trunk of a taxi. He waited until the night to drop her. In the shing. Mun River the parts washed up on the shore about a week later when police questioned lamb. If he felt bad for what he'd done he said No. He said that the women were useless to society and his victims were Chan Fung Land. Twenty-one her body was found in seven pieces in shing Ma'am River in in the New Territories. Chanoine KIT thirty one. Her body was dumped in a rice bag near Tai. Hang Road on Hong Kong Island Wing Son. So one twenty nine. Her body was don't in a rice bag near tie hang road on Hong Kong Island. Lean wall some seventeen. Her body was dumped in a rice back near Tai. Hang Road on Hong Kong Island. Well because the victims have been dismembered and their features recognizable. It was hard to identify them to lecturers from the Prince. Philip Dental Hospital created a system of photo super imposition. That was used to. Id The victims. They took Ante mortem photos of the possible victim and x rays of the skulls of the found bodies they would then superimpose the pictures and x rays together and see if they matched much like matching fingerprints April. Eighth Nineteen eighty-three lamb was put on trial for four counts of murder. The facts of the case were prevert perverse and sickening but what bothers people even more was the complete lack of remorse from the killer because of the said they cheese soundless say Soviet. Severe jury sever jury is not severity. Whatever I don't know save I have no clue. You know. That your microphones on me right. Okay S. A. V. A. G. E. R. Y. I have no clue that just makes no sense. And the gruesome crime scene photos. Only men were allowed to serve on the jury. What does that saying what? The women aren't as strong as men. That's just what they're saying. I'm saying that the trial less three weeks lamb was found guilty on all counts and sentenced to death by hanging but August twenty ninth. Nineteen eighty-four lamb sentence of death was commuted to life imprisonment. Him He is currently being held at the maximum security. Check pick prison a home plan to island. Do these names for these names. And that's my story but I'm telling you what I told you butcher. These names polygon a mall right. Maybe ONE WILL CHARLOTTE. Schick pick prison on until I have no clue lying why some links saw one Chan Wong. So you're just GONNA put from over our ten fung lawn. I think that's how you say I'm really. I'm pretty sure now. I decide to just had to reread them again. You know but that's our stories for you for this week A hope the two are still listening so that we can tell you goodbye and to go to facebook and code our page bad in the boondocks. Get in touch with us or a me. Because I'm the one on facebook. Start UP A conversation. 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Gs four and six Gs then we went in and thumper. My pilot Colonel Jeremy hedges right over there. He took me through canyons, and we had practiced dogfight we strafe targets. And then we come up and he pulls nine point two. Gs and I I now I think that certifies right now, I'm not did you feel like were going to lose your lunch or right? Were you scared or was it fun? It was fun. It was fun. I was scared that was gonna puke on national television. I was scared those gonna pass out, but I'm point cheese, physically painful has to be not painful max, that's like what that's nine of nine times. My body weight pressing down on me. The whole thing's shove your blood out of your head and your chest air, these guys in combat situations have to deal with that while there's like any stuff, and I say, I do want to say I wanna say this. So we spend a lot of time talking about highly trained high-achieving if I can bad men in the athletes, the bad men and women of this country STAN between us and the bad guys among them. The fifty six fighter wing is some of the bad. Because among them three hundred nights water and the mad mallards from hell and among them. Then you have my guys joker and thumper who are the Baghdadis of the bad right there. Ted Williams, I or. Fighter planes during the war because he had twenty ten vision. Also have to have some kind of superhuman abilities that I give you credit with credit is doing I must say this is the first time that you should be complemented for being a wannabe. To wanna be those guys understand its purpose. It makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. So if I could have one do over in life, I could have one wish granted to truth be told Stephen it wouldn't be to play in the NBA would be played in the NFL. It'd be one of these guys. This is what I don't blame. You. I don't blame. Oh, I don't blame. Let's get into it. Speak. It battles. Your boys have won this weekend. That would be the Cowboys huge game in the NFC this weekend. It's going to be Sunday night football the four and five eagles host the three and five Cavs with bowl teams looking up at home the Washington Redskins in the NFC east to thought it went asked about the Cowboys. Our Steve Young said the season is lost who wants to start with this one true. All right. Steven are you giving the Cowboys a chance against the eagles? No. No. No chance whatsoever. No chance whatsoever. First of all the calendar. Cowboy season's over the Monday night. We'll knows this. You don't wanna omit? It doesn't wanna mini flew from Dallas. He's he's amongst people. I get all that understand it. But the reality is that the Dallas Cowboys season's over let me get this straight. Defense is good offensively. Your challenge. Your quarterback is challenged your offense of coordinating. Head coach forgot to get the ball to that's done that the Elliott you got in a number one receiver that we only referred to as a number one receiver because he wasn't number one receiver a couple of years ago before being contaminated at the black hole in Oakland. Okay. So now he's in Dallas, right? Whether you go show up you an opportunity to show out on national television, Monday night on your home turf. After I spent the morning calling y'all out for the disgusting fan base that you wanted as the Dallas Cowboys how you wouldn't do anything. All right. What do they do? They know on their home turf. Isn't it face right across the street from Texas stadium calling them out, and they still stuck up the joint, and I'm supposed to believe that six nights later at Lincoln financial field in the city of brotherly love, Philadelphia. Golden Tate there now to go with outside Jeffey notes in galore, Corey Clement and God's and I'm supposed to believe that the Dallas Cowboys could've short and home gonna show that road. Please. Dance. This business about the rent. Out here for you got out of all that's the point. There's things to defend in this world. And there's things not to defend you defend that Dallas Cowboys fan base. That comes wherever you are get it up. Don't shout down. I can't can't Molly number two. There's things not to defend and I'm not gonna defend this team. Right now wanted out. I'm not gonna tell laws come out here to tell the truth there calbos have to in only two hopes to really compete this game this Sunday. And they are as follows one anything can happen in the NFL. This is a league in which the Buffalo Bills destroyed. The Minnesota Vikings on one weekend. Does anybody believe the bills are better than the Vikings? And the other thing that I have going for me is that the Philadelphia Eagles have been not unlike to Dallas Cowboys the embodiment of mediocrity this year, you gotta tell them by one game. You think I'm not bragging about three and five. You don't come out your bragging about four and four active bear, I can when it's the Cowboys that they're going to get all right now. Look, this is what is so hilarious about this whole situation. The Cowboys in fact have a chance to win. The eagles have had been having real problems on the offense of line. The Cowboys have defense this year. Cowboys could potential. Win this game. Which would be hilarious because you'd be thinking since the Cowboys aren't going anywhere this year. They should be tanking for a draft pick. They you want them to lose all the games except they treated their first proud draft pick. So. So so it doesn't help them to lose. It doesn't help them to win. It just doesn't matter as usual. The Cowboys season will end with them in terms in terms of popularity in such in fact, will they do matter in terms of every other metric like in terms of playoff implications. Super Bowl implications all that as usual for the twenty third consecutive season. They just don't actually matter playing football. We'll see we'll see you on Monday. When a Cowboys lose yet. Again, watch will max does have one point Stephen true that this team is as you point out. All the time have a black cat run around the franchise. If it's true that what can go wrong will go wrong that would be actually winning against the eagles on Sunday night. I don't care about short term goals. I don't care about this season. I care about getting this thing on the right track. Okay. They're lost in the woods. Because the driver is the ginger Clapper because the drive is Jason Garrett by my high. Now, what the hell clocked over that for Jesus. All I do have question for you. Engine might nightmare. Is that by the end of the season? They ended up eight eight or nine and seven and somehow stumbling the playoffs and Jerry Jones convinces itself. Let's ride this one out alone more than note Jason Garrett, no going God. I just have one question for you. Could you please do me a favor and remind people what your preseason prediction was for the couple's mine-free bears thing. It's the question. How can we get an answer? Protect. I'm not embarrassed. This business is about right and wrong. It's about telling got one wrong. Okay. Preseason to promote prediction was Allen encounter. Wrong. Let's Dallas Cowboys against the same. I'm sorry. Los Angeles charge half of that looking good. The Cowboys rosters. But it's a little Queen. I just asked you to four no on the explanation. I didn't know you need it. You. You look you look at you. Online was hell. What was your prediction? I ain't asphalt of that. You need all of that. We don't need all of that. We know they stink. We know. You will wrong. I just wanted to how long you didn't have to go into the playoffs. You didn't have to win the division. You had go into the Super Bowl. Zip it, stop it. I don't know. Yes. Mission explanation. What I underestimated case would he too. We didn't ask why. The moderator don't ask the why. You're not. That's what you want to ask. Period. Let's give it up for welcome. Flying into. Football records the record. You had the opportunity to be. Let me be. I'm in a plane first class all the time. I'm not I'm not trying to be some hero. Here here. I was in on it then sign the waiver on out. I'm good. I'm staying on the ground. We appreciate you taking go. Go. Fly jets. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to Joel check OJ dot com slash sports. If you don't smoke don't start warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is addictive chemical. Everybody. Clinton shale. Everybody. All the time. Energy. I need in the morning. Get a girl going who needs caffeine. So usually I get to ask you guys the questions. But now, it's all you folks up. I ain't got no problems long. Thanks, get at the end. Staff sergeant Kyle quake from Florida come on up. Sir. Thank you. Gift. I just wanna be clear hearts, first of all appreciate 'cause thank you so much to you didn't just come up here came up here to dog, which is gonna do. I mean, if we wrong. Sick dog on. He's a timid date. And that's all right. Okay. Go ahead. But you got guys. So if the college playoff stood the way, they are right now with Alabama number one in Michigan number four and they had to play is Michigan's number one defense able to stop a healthy to attack in Alabama offense. No. Michigan would lose similar to what LSU LSU look. They would fall. Don't get me wrong. They wouldn't lose fifty or sixty two seven something like that. But could I see them lose it twenty nine and nothing. Yeah. They don't have Alabama this year. And the problem is if you have a Sean Dixon on your team. Then I say, you know, what you have this great defense Alabama and really have a quarterback and the best player on the team is on the other team. Right. But when you have the best coach, you're the best recruits by far, and you got the best player on the field all for Alabama. I know it takes the drama Atta this fees and everybody, but nobody is stopping alabam. I will say this Jim Harbaugh has been widely universally criticised if they get to the playoffs this year. No one saw that coming. He deserves a lot of credit, but he's got to beat Ohio State for once before the play Philistines. Thank you so much. Okay. Up next. Timothy or from Saint Louis. Thanks for being with us. Thank you. What do you want to ask these two? I know y'all related reiterated on an earlier. But again, what's your take on the does Brian being signed with the saints? I think it's a big deal. And the reason why I think it's a big deal because it's Joe breeze there, if he he's not just going to team, I think people are looking at him, you know, and I just him or he may have lost a step. He's not what he used to be excetera. We'll guess what would you need to be? What used to be this, brother? Get you open. When you ain't open. I mean the way he puts the ball the level of accuracy that he throws what the football the fact that you got Michael Thomas and our Kamara on the field with Brian. This is the best situation that Dez Bryant has been in his career even in a leak Dez Bryant it had twenty Romo throwing them. The football wasn't in the situation in the past even with DeMarco Murray running a football form before he left the part for Philadelphia. And then Tennessee he was not in the situation that he is in. Now, this is the greatest situation of death Bryant's career because you can't double him. Kamara Thomas out there. And you got drew Brees throwing the ball. I have a question for senior average if you're from Saint Louis. Who benefits more from this parents Dez Bryant or the saints? I would say does Dez is the guy who really benefits here, and that's gonna help the saints that away, but I don't think desert real difference maker compared to what they already had. And they lost. Can't remember if temporarily if Dez got it left to be elite ever again, it is career he'll never find a better situation than it's one. Drew Brees is playing perfect quarterback. They got an online that got weapons everywhere Dez gotta show right now. It makes me laugh is everybody says they got a little better. Well, we're predicting before they got this that they would probably go to see champs you game against the Rams. So what does a little bit mean Super Bowl? But what is Dante Fowler me? Okay. I'm next to airlines. I clock London for might here in Phoenix. How are we doing? Excellent. We're here with you guys. Who's better than us? Put him on the spot. Would you? Let me tell you go blue. So my question is. Lou michigan. Are you joking? Not joking. You know, why who the hell is Michigan any Michigan fan to assume? We should know who they are after the level of production. They now say role Todd. Everybody knows blue. You could be talking about a giant. I hear Copeland all day saying, I don't know anyways. My question for you is going to be Dewey for C Kobe Bryant coming out of retirement. No, no browser aims. No ten for. No, no, no Kobe Bryant. And it was the worst player in the NBA. I know he went for sixty on his last game. But he could not play it day in and day out. He was hurt. He was old. Kobe was one of the greatest players of all time ten years ago. He can't come out of Kobe weeks ago. Ain't coming back period. Have a nice day. Thank you so much. Hello. Derek? There you okay. Okay. Lock it out. Damn I didn't know we saw rich-poor LeBron's agent here. Not at all riches aboard just wanted to know. Do you believe Derrick rose as a shot at being star that he was once before the injuries? Yeah, I've been watching grows, you know, just another night we were at the Lakers game. What I'm seeing from him right now this special I had a conversation with him. He says it's health is fine. He's in great physical condition. And obviously a lot in the drama was going on in life off the court doesn't appear to be the issue. The question with Derrick rose has always been his health never his game. If he says, he's healthy. I'm not worried about it at all because that quickness is still there, and he's got a three point shot. Now. Lord have mercy. Derrick Rose's coming. Yeah. You said it. I mean, it's not just that he could hit it. He is shooting the three now at its best shot it more than people realize, but he's shooting it more. It's going in more. And the main thing is I'm shocked because I never thought he would get back to this level of athleticism that he's got to if he remains healthy. He can I can't believe I'm saying that he could be a Stargate. Vintage their grocer coal. Thank you so much. Back to white. I know you. Extra. On the show right now. Jan. Brought it back. Stephen the white. I'm doing great, Molly. How are you doing? Excellent. I it's an honor to be here. Among these men and women were having a lot of fun. Guess you a lot of fine men and women. That's the is bother way there. I say, Tim Tibo. I saw your motivational speech that you gave these these young. These these wonderful men and women very very inspirational on very proud, very pro. Yeah. Let me. Could have done the same for Syracuse football team. By the way, Tim has. Oh, she should variance Gration. I used to the harsh people. All right. Let's go how many here ten let's talk a little college football LSU is out of the top four in terms of the rankings. Michigan is now it is this finally the year Harbaugh. Michigan aren't gonna disappoint fans at the end. I really don't think. So I think they're going to be a favourite against so high. Oh state and a high Assayed is going to be able to knocked him off go to the big ten championship. Doesn't matter who they play neither one of them are getting in. But Michigan that is our opportunity. This is their third in the top four everyone else's off. But can they find a way to beat their rivals? Ohio state. They haven't done it yet will be this year up saying, probably not. You know, what I wanna know because Tim usually put my top five list for my top five list together every week. And last week I had Alabama as book four three two and one, isn't it? Joy, you willing to admit to the fine men and women here that you completely agree with Joe main, Stephen it's Alabama, and nobody else the Stephen it is really hard to admit. But I do agree with you. I'll give you that. It's ella. Bama. And nobody else right now, let's stay with Alabama for a second still like the playoff is yet to be played. But at this point in the season, where do you rank this Alabama team among the best you have ever seen him? Gosh, facs I'll tell you what they have to come through in their clots in the SEC in the college football playoff, and they have the dominate in that. But if they continue on this path, I think I would have them up there competing for number one. I think you have to dominance that they have displayed especially last week at valley against the number three team in the country. I think out have ninety five Nebraska with Tommy Frazier. I think I would have maybe two thousand one Miami. Maybe a couple of other teams, but if Alabama finishes you got to put him up there. Table is a way of saying that they would be intend TI both Florida Gators when you will winning. That they would would've smacked you guys around to your way of saying that. Well, actually, Stephen we didn't win the title when I won the highs, and we came back, and we want it the next year. And I never said we would be out. Okay. Ever said that you always believe in your squad. And I believe in my boys. We would have come strapped ready to play Stephen a stop it, stop it. Stop them, Tim. What about LSU they they only drops four spots after getting shut out at home. Basically. I mean like that is that good enough where do you agree with where the wrecked LSU? Honestly max, I think it says more about what the committee believes Alabama to be then LSU they're saying Alabama is so good that when you get shut out at home. It's still okay. And then also you gotta look at LSU's resume. It's still wanted to better resumes in college football. They have a bunch of big time winds beating Mississippi State, beating Miami beating Auburn that's a lot better wins in a lot of other people have. Yes, they did kind of take it last week on the chin against Alabama, but pretty much everybody would. Ten. The big injury news this week with Ian book, obviously at Notre Dame. Brian Kelly said he isn't ruled out, but how concerning is this for the Irish extremely concerning. Extremely concerning. Listen the last time we saw Brandon wimbush play. They beat ball state by ten. They barely beat Vanderbilt on a bad. Call and a fumble on the goal line. Notre Dame needs in book for them to be successful. They need his accuracy. They need his arm string and his moxie in the pocket and everybody wants to say that Brandon wimbush is more athletic. Yes. He's faster. But that doesn't mean he's more clinic in the pocket. Ian book knows how to maneuver in the pocket created throwing wait and be accurate down the field. I think they're very different team. And if you're FSU fan, you have a little hope now because Ian book is out. Ten. Thank you so much. We gotta let you go. What do you want to? Before we take a by. I'll tell you what I wanna thank you from the bottom. Iheart for your service for what you do every single day. Because of what you do we get to be on a show and talk about sports and have fun and get excited. But what you do is more important than any game any day any place. So we want to thank you from the bottom our hearts, God bless you guys. And we pray for you often. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent lightning storm here to describe the event a TV tray. I was watching football and holding a plate of Meatloaf win. Bam a bolt of lightning slams into the apartment blowing out the TV and surround sound anything. You could have done to help. I'm a foldable table, not an electric TV tree. Can't help you in a lightning storm. But the guy co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Go to Geico dot com to see how a forcible renter's insurance can be. The injuries piling on for Golden State Steph curry this is sportscenter right now on the Collins, the two time people undergoing Mariah today after he strained define muscle in last night's loss to the bucks curry who missed thirty seven games last season because of injuries got hurt midway through the third quarter. When he was trying to contest Eric Bledsoe shot in transition curry finished the night with ten points and six assists. While things didn't go off for the warriors different story for the bucks. You continue their best starting to last seventeen seasons in the second tied at thirty four Yana sounds, but with the big flim dream month reaction prices now midway through the four bucks up by five Janas comes up with a steel takes two huge steps misses. The layup in the second dried, right the bucks pull away in the third by thirteen Janas finds his way into the paint and throws down the dunk and the foul finish twenty four points. And later in the third Katie turns it over and transition. Curry tries to stop the fast break. Can't do it. Let's go on to win this one thirty four to one eleven now back to I takes. I'm caffeine injured. Joe Joe Wilson f thirty five demo pilot like welcome ESPN. I moved here for space. Class. Caroline burnett. Welcome ESPN. I take go cats. Go see hot go Lakers. Go niners. There's only one. General Todd Canterbury commander fifty six fighter wing, Luke air force base. I'd like to welcome ESPN's. I take Luke air force base. But we train the world's greatest butter pilots. Combat ready year. Look at this. Air force base for having us. So much fun. I just wanna say thank you to the tire base for making the tap in the set looks phenomenal. Thank you guys for having us into our whole I take team in crew putting on this whole production. It's such an honor to be here. And thank you guys protecting freedom everything and being here today. Excuse me. I consider myself the fashion east on the show Steven would beg to differ. Do we wardrobe changes? Well. So we're him, you know, telling him what he would to were max changes tie. So came for paired fine clock to Ryan Clark's. Brian clog file and fro five four suits. Just in case. I mean, you just change the game. I might not have to change. I must confess. I take crews phenomenal. They do a great job. We wouldn't be what we are without them. But let me say this. They did drop the ball in this respect, I actually contemplated. Now. He nature poured row. I actually thinking about doing it. But I was just going wait. And see if it was I did came up with and they usually come up with very, brilliant ideas. They didn't do that. Otherwise, I would Iraq the blue you know, what the white for. Even would've put on the wig for me too. I wanna needed to do the headline 'cause my airlines are ready. You know what I'm saying too? Done that the cost autograph would've gone up fifty bucks, right? To combat boots. That's a different story. We're learning. All right. Let's talk some hoops, everybody. The bucks are really really good knock it off the warriors and not such good news here for Steph curry as you just heard he's getting an MRI today with the groin issue. How concerning is this Steven loaded this team is, but if he has some this a lot of time zero concern zero. Beca shells. As broth cramped within. Honeymooners baggage show. It really means. Absolutely nothing as you know what? Steph curry get hurt. Ten games into the season means he's going to get rest where complete Tom he'll be fresh. That's all that's all that. That's all that's all that. I mean who who's the number two seed in the Western Conference, that's really threaten them. Nobody anybody. That's a real threat to them is in the east in Boston Toronto, which really is secondary. 'cause you're talking about who can push them to six or seven games. It's absolutely positively nothing to worry about not to mention this one fit. Kevin Durant is one of the top three players on the plan that that's how I feel on the planet earth. Kevin durant? This is what I mean is this why you're to spell for somebody else? They smell quite it's nothing to worry about whatsoever. Ciro Kevin Durant a beast. But this is a world with LeBron James Anthony Davis and Greek freak who was doing it last night. Let me tell you something the number one acquisition in the off season for any team was the Brian James to the league because he's the best in the world number-two off-season acquisition was butting holder. The coach of the Milwaukee Bucks. Who is getting these guys wide open looks and he has an MVP caliber player on the team the thing. Stephen as said is right. I've been saying since preseason the only threat to the warriors in the east two teams, the Celtics better get things together. Right. You know, you could see. You could see they win and the raptors those threats to them, maybe maybe the bucks. I mean, we got to see what happens the that. Is a dangerous team. Meantime, Golden State sees what happens everyone's one injury away in this case too. 'cause it was dream on. Also who wasn't playing any team. I don't care. How good you are. You lose the engine that makes your team go you could still compete, but without Steph curry that's not a championship team better. Let this injury heal right? Groin injury. Basically that could take six weeks six weeks. Rush him back at all of a sudden, it's nagging injury all year that could be a problem. Rick. Nolan curry family forever. Dylan I've been close friends, and I was probably there when stuff with born he is phenomenal. They didn't see this coming. I don't think when they drafted him. But he nobody. It's unbelievable. Change the league. I disagree with Stephen. But I think losing him right now. Last night, the bucks re the good against them. And I'm not sure the bugs are, you know, going to prevail. But I think that this year because of all the talented moved moved around LeBron, you know, being an LA. Of course, I'm not sure what that's going to make it. I wanted to work out like you predict. But I think every team needs all these guys play. I mean it. That's my my strong points alone abroad, James he plays. He doesn't get hurt. They tavoy. Let me tell you. Why you're wrong? Let me tell you why you're wrong. You know, I watched you for years. And I know you give major props to the WWE because they are the crimp Delacroix. We all get that. A right. I remember when you when then w as well, I remember to rolled war is I remember for horsemen when on and the crew don't get me wrong. I got all of this stuff. I grew up. What? Let me let me break down to you. You know, how many times I watched you? Let dudes come in the ring and throw their best stuff at you thinking. They had you beat. Then one mistake made them succumb to think of foreleg lot lights out. Because. All right. This is what you gotta understand though, go to State Warriors on the court. You can't I know that booting hoses. Plus, but don't get me wrong. You know, what has happened right now? We're putting in the Milwaukee Bucks is good as they are is surreal as the Greek freak is you're sitting back and saying okay, it's early in the season. Let's figure out what throwing at us because we haven't seen this from them before. And that's. Progressive. They will not get open shots at the season wing, by the way. Let me tell you the better one. Rick flair right? This is not the NFL where it's next man up. You might if there's a show coming to your town and RIC flair as the headliner and Rick flair can't go. He's got pneumonia. He's got something. Right. He want to say next up, and you might want to try to win that day win that crowd. But you can't just lose a Rick flair at still expect the same product. Right. That's like the warriors Rouge losing Steph curry, thank you. But I guarantee you their bricklayer thing with on the sign the Mon you're not who is there. WW your name on the marquee groin injury right in the make it notes of than today's NBA toe. I mean, they fought an excuse to take off fifteen. James not missing time. Like he'll play through the injury, not Tim and Steph is a tough guy, actually. But is that what you're talking about? If gift. You know, like hundred of fate. I get the gene there'd be what I've been through my lifetime and still be healthy and moving around north right of the miracle. Lebron has got this gift, and he stays healthy. And you know, I hear you say that takes part of Europe doesn't play defense in that. But just the fact that he's on the court every night, the Rena sold out people if he doesn't play I want my money back. Rena career same thing, by the way, when you need it employees play defense, always shows up and shows out. Yes. Too late at night. Giga maggie's donate message. Mayor planned to go. Miami heat. Tampa Bay give out. Dispatching him. I go bucks. South carolina. All the way baby. Go Cleveland from San Antonio, Texas. State of. Field. Honoring America's heroes that Luke air force. Having such a wonderful time Veterans Day, of course, on Monday, we'll be back in New York. But you know, what type of show? Stephen any list. Where's she's over the first class? Leyla batee. Yes. Okay. She's running point today. Thank you so much Steven what do you have for us today for Layla hair rock com? Girl loved that Nate the way love that name there rot comb with Stevens a list in terms of the top five reasons why I love to get nited states of America. Medial because when Lewis is an enough to chronicle what's going on and the whole people accountable. He comes to media to let you know, the Cowboys stake, not a member. Not a member. The freedom of speech why? Because we we need to have to say what we feel to say what we believe without worrying about repercussions cowboy Dana, America state. Patriot. Aw. Which Tom Brady? Let him go to three on Stephen litho while love USA capitalism. Nuts. Why these are cheap cheap to look. Good. Good. Good. Max, I love you. But we gotta talk about. Capitalism because it's not about everything being equal this about the being treated like the best this team today. And then there's everybody else on list. To. Critique the greatest thing about this nation. There's a democracy. What? Your body just to put him don't don't ever got a work for something. Handed to you everybody equal. This thing about being great is people. There are people who are great. And then there are those who are not in America, you're recognized for it the way then that's what makes this country beautiful one on a while low the your states of America, United States military. Women. Efforts. Stephen Stevens eight list. I'm the emotional one of the show. But let me say that is the best list you ever did. I got chills. All you chanting about. Really, it's something special special country. All right guys before we say goodbye any predictions for this weekend. Big Dallas Cowboys we'll get stumped. Philadelphia date night on national television, and the Philadelphia Eagles will look this flaw this my board. Right. What you got? Everybody. Day from New York.

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What's going on? I take. Thank you so much for being with us, Stephen Smith, max Hellemann, and I just want to say this guy's it is a scary scary world we're living in right now. And our thoughts and prayers are with all the victims of the mass shooting about forty two miles from here in Thousand Oaks, California at a bar. Every every week. It's every ten days every two weeks. Thoughts and prayers are fine. Something needs to be done. I'm not gonna lie y'all. I didn't know anything about until you just a man walked into a bar mass shooting and Thousand Oaks, California. Yep. Yes. Agreed max things need to just isn't a political platform. Yesterday. Yes, for sure so thinking of your families. And but yes, thoughts are certainly not enough. All right on that note. We're going to make the tough transition to what happened at Staples Center last night, and that would be the Lakers escaping with a win. I know you guys were at the game of four point win over the Timberwolves last night. And LeBron nearly messed around and got a triple double Tyson Chandler with them, huge rebounds down the stretch in his debut. Derrick rose miss a potential game winning with three seconds three. Excuse me with less than ten seconds left in the game. Lebron your thoughts on the win and Tyson. Plus to be able to get Tyson and to have that one two punch, would you Valentine's those guys create extra out between four. No way d- rose shooting the ball towards the end we needed every last one of those office rebounds. To to one dollars. Great just to the first one out the way, you know, be out there be apartment plan. Playing basketball. Being able to like you say the teen watch modern tire life. Stephen a Smith. Did you see enough last night to calm, your worries about the Lakers with them acquiring Tyson putting in work, but as an aside, I just wanted if you don't mind I just want to deviate away from this particular subject to show saying something I was in the Lakers locker room last night. You know, Mr. Rondot directed a very disrespectful comment my way, he didn't say by name. I was standing right next to him. I just kept my I just kept my head down because out of respect to the Los Angeles Lakers as an organization, I didn't wanna make C. So I just left it at that. Just won't Rondo to know. I know that number one and number two a stand. Mar by my proclamation that he deserved a fifteen game suspension for spitting in the face of Chris Paul and last, but not least I just wanna say that out of respect for him. I would remind him never said anything of always been a fan of Rondo we disagree. On this particular issue because I do believe he's been Chris balls face. We disagree on that particular issue. But I've never said anything about why you love Boston, Chicago, Dallas Sacramento. This goes on and on. I just leave it at that. Anytime he wants to have a big big man compensation. I'm more than willing to have a conversation because I do respect him. But I just want to let what was the gist of what he said. No, no, no. Well, you know, like I said it was just. Just you know, expletive reporter. So it's fine. I'm just glad just wanted. Everybody know, listen, I'm not running from anybody. So I just wanted to make sure I didn't wanna make a scene. That's the only reason I say that thing last night inside that locker Lakers PR was with them. They know what I'm talking about is cold. Yeah. I I got too much respect for that organization. I didn't want be and too much respect for LeBron. And his team wasn't going to do this Rondo to deny spitting in the only thing. I could see it came out juicy right? That's the only because we all saw the spittle city. I respect Rondo as a champion as a competitor. Our always have and always will. That's why say Tommy wants to talk. That's fine. But I felt the need to address that back enough from nobody. Now, let me get to last night's game. Okay. Was there? I gotta tell you max all the concerns that I have some of them are still there. No supposed to think about that. But I'm gonna tell you what I liked you know, what I like more than anything else. What's that? I like the fact that I saw Lonzo ball play. Just twenty one minutes him Rondo combined the shoot two for thirteen one six one of seven respective. Early. Brandon Ingram was in the game. Doing some point if the Los Angeles Lakers talking about using Brandon Ingram somewhat as a point guard considering his link his ability to defend etc. Etc. And you're talking about that being in the lineup with the heart. The coups MS of the world, the LeBron's of the world, etc. I kind of liked that. I'd like to explore what that looks like moving forward for the Los Angeles Lakers. I'm not gonna completely stay get off my proclamation that they should trade. Brandon Ingram and go out and get somebody like Bradley Beal because I do believe they should prioritize getting another shooter a big time shooter on their roster. But I will say because of the length and athleticism that Brandon Ingram have if indeed he could play some point for you. Then excuse me, that's something that you might want to entertain Luke Walton clearly as entertaining because he utilized it to some degree last night. It worked very effectively for them Rondo help to win the game last night along with Tyson Chandler because both of them got off into rebounds or tap the ball out rebounds, given the Lakers possessions, enabling them to hold onto the ball. And then nine at Minnesota Timberwolves lash out because Derek roles has returned. This brother is looking special right now to him after the game. He says his health is feeling really really good. Max. He's looking even better. Two big Tom three pointers to pull within one against the Lakers last night. Derrick rose is returning. I'm loving what I'm seeing from him. But I also liked what I saw from the Lakers with the Howard the possibility that Brandon Ingram can play some point for you that could end up being very effectively real quick number a couple of weeks ago. I said there was someone at ESPN who was mentioning what's the real difference between Russell Westbrook and Derrick rose. I didn't wanna shout them out. If they didn't want to be Andrew Han who who works on the dot com side and everything is brought that up during the last trip out here. What's between rose and Westbrook at this moment? Westbrooks of better dresser. That's. Was at his best was the league MVP. And he looks better than these looked since before the really really good. And he's feeling good. I'm real happy for him. He's feeling good. All right. So he said let me answer the question did I see enough to come my worries about the Lakers. The answer's no Tyson Chandler will help with a post defense and weakside rotations. And he's a smart defensive player. But there's a reason he's available right now. The Lakers, that's the bad news, right? The Lakers defense is bad. And we know why the perimeter defense is bad because LeBron James can't lead, by example on the defensive end early in an eighty two game regular season when they're also planning on making the playoff run and he's been to the finals every year since like fifteen feet, right? Like he needs to preserve themselves. So LeBron James teams start slowly and increasingly that slow start is more of a slow start. It's even even worse start. He needs to be on a team. If you want them to start better. With more self motivated defensive players Lakers. Don't have a lot of those kind of guys on the team at the moment. So that's the that's the kind of obvious one the other one which is maybe a little less obvious unless you've been watching the games is they didn't have any real shot falters in the middle. Right. Even when you think about the Golden State Warriors success with their small ball is still had a guy like bogut, a guy who can make you think in the pain and McGee can do that for eighteen twenty minutes, whatever. But what about the rest of the game? So Tyson Chandler fits in there. And here's the good news for the Lakers. It doesn't solve all their problems. They're going to have to make a deadline deal or a deal by the trade deadline if they hope to compete in the playoffs maybe even make the playoffs. But here's the good news. Lebron James is so great that you can take players around the league off the scrap heap, and you don't have to worry about what they can't do. You can focus on what they can do. So if Tyson Chandler and McGee can help in certain respects on your interior defense, but their problems in other areas. It's okay. The. Ron can compensate for that as Brandon Ingram. Stephen, wait a minute. I'm sorry. Max I got into this to ask you a question. Did you see enough from the Lakers because I don't understand. There's clearly because it sounded like yes, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what happened. Just what happened? Just then for everyone hurt me say no three times, Stephen as gets text from throughout the NBA throughout the show. I saw getting text how somebody I got a couple of Tech's already. But I was asking. Asking because you were you were talking about the Lakers in a very positive way. Well, I'm saying the answer is no that's the bad news. They're going to have to make a deadline deal. The good news is with LeBron. You can kind of patchwork things to kind of keep your head above water until you can make the major move. Brandon Ingram how many point cards they need on the team Rondo LeBron Lonzo, by the way, Casey. Brandon Ingram had a rhetorical question. Rhetorical question. Okay. I don't think Ingram's gonna be packaged because you, and I agree heart and Kuzina or the keeper's right now. Even if their upside is more limited. They're already playing it like league average for their position all things considered. And they're young. They can still get better. They're going to have to bring in a star it increasingly looks like Lonzo is going to have to go the problem for the Lakers it because Lonzo needs the ball in his hands. But LeBron needs a bone hands. Rondo needs the ball and sent their other players who also so lonzo's effectiveness on offense is diminish. The problem is he's their best defender who's not a big and the defense really needs help right now. That's the conundrum at the Lakers face. It does not. I'm not calling the Bron out of because it's not necessary. He's the best in the world, and I want to be respectful here. The point is this and it's early. So I understand it. But if we're going to be honest about this already early the seas. I had a coach that played again. The Lakers early this season. Text me yesterday and says Stephen they called me out saying call it like you see what what are you talking about, you know, just messing with me is always going to. That's what people say when they want you to say what they want you to say, right? And their whole point was LeBron is missing defensive assignments. Now there have been times when I've seen them do that as always because he's conservative all of that other stuff. We get all of that. But if we're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers at some point, and Tom have we gotten to the point where we're going to have to see not only what we've seen from a wild linen. But if we're given enough credit what we have seen lately from Kevin Durant. One of the things that happen in detention to a Kevin Durant over the last couple of years since he's arrived at Golden State one of the things that he's done. We know what he because he's a score machine or what have you? But what? Kevin Durant has done. He goes out there from opening tap and accept the toughest defensive assignment, I'm coming for you. So what I'm saying is that it may come down to us requiring that we see that. From LeBron at some can't too old say, well, he can do it in the playoffs. Do it now. Okay. That's fine at some point about when they really can you? About when they really can you really Jimmy Butler was going to play Steve Harvey was what this yesterday. We're joking about how he has general soreness. Right. But he did end up playing. He had twenty four Karl Anthony towns didn't have his greatest night. He had thirteen points stimulate from what you saw last night. Is it time for Minnesota to move Butler? So because he doesn't want to be there. We didn't have an opportunity to talk much. We talked for a couple of minutes, but we didn't have an opportunity to talk much yesterday. I can tell you that his feelings have not changed. We can have an opportunity to get into it because I didn't have much dawn because I had to go down. And and make sure I was in the Lakers lock room in case. Somebody wanted to talk to me is that a whispering the PR people and then walking away instead of catching me one. I'm just saying I'm just saying, but the point is is that Jimmy Butler is in Minnesota. He does not want to be there. Of course, there are issues with them taking care of the people that he questions whether or not they should be taking nobody questions whether or not they should take care of call Anthony towns, they have to give him calling towns deserves it even though his play yesterday did not show that I think call Anthony towns is out there watching him last night max and with taking too much. We hear Nava busy talking about Duke, Kentucky and Kentucky got robbed at night pork as opposed to the game itself. It's too early to really get into things. We'll call Anthony towns in my estimation comes across as very indecisive right now last year on the side of the ball. He knew exactly what he wanted to do this year. He's got questions I think Jimmy Butler had something to do with that. And you wig is walks around. Like he doesn't have a can of world. He's cool. Life is grand. He's getting paid the I. Okay. Jimmy Butler is not all right. When you look at this team just. What I Samadi watching looking at the contracts at what have you? You know, what conclusion I've drawn and Jimmy Butler has never denied there's not to Rachel Nichols. Not to myself, not to anybody the guys from Chicago. My what propelled Minnesota to the playoffs last year? They have been out of the place. Like thirteen years you bring Jimmy Butler you bring a gift to you. Bring a democ- rose you end up going to the playoffs, but somehow, someway, others are taking care of. And so when you look at it from that perspective, and you look at from what I'm hearing, the great top tiptoe, who's very demonstrative and very demanding. Or what have you I hear? He barely says. Anything belly hose anybody accountable. They're in this day and age the top tiptoe that existed in Chicago. That was willing to bud heads with Paxton and gall forming is not the top dibitetto that is in Minnesota right now. And so because of that when you have that problem, it's just a recipe for disaster because the temperament of Jimmy Butler is explosive to the point where. You know, he's not going to take. But so much of that. Eventually the rub is gonna hit the road. They're not winning enough basketball games, you might as well take care of it. Why you can get some value for him because you might be cutting off your own notice to face because of you losing wit Jimmy Butler on the floor. It might be an excuse for the team to give you diminished value for him. They would need to get rid of Jimmy. Because they can't get fair value for and that's the issue. No one's gonna give you fair value for Jimmy Butler. You're not gonna get it. You get fair value for kyri. When everyone listen this goes back to the Mike Tomlin quote about Levy on bell. We want volunteer's not hostages the difference between Butler and Levy on bell. Is Levy on bells. The kidnapper he's the guy who's holding them for ransom butlers actually on the team. He's doing a much more passive aggressive thing. General soreness, he's not playing stuff like that. But here's the real problem with Butler. And it's the reason he should have been already moved like the the timber Timberwolves have to get it through their heads. They're not going to get fair value for him. And they can't keep them on the team. I had no problem with them. Choosing Karl Anthony towns over Jimmy Butler, even if Butler represents everything that a coach wants from a player in terms of his work ethic, and desire and fire and Karl Anthony towns, they believe has things to learn along those lines, even if you believe that the fact is Jimmy Butler does not have the potential to be the best player on. A championship team. Karl Anthony towns does he does whether he needs to get a little extra something on fire lit under whatever it is. You can look at Karl Anthony towns game and say see that guy that guy potentially could be the best player on a powerhouse championship team. Any butler? I got no problem with them paying towns instead of Butler and Buckler shouldn't either. I don't care if you don't get along. The problem with the issue as Wiggins they gave Wiggins the money Wiggins is not a good player. He's athlete. He's talented. But he's not a good NBA player. If someone said, hey, you want Wiggins hundred team you're trying to make a run. There are literally in the league that wanna hit Andrew Wiggins. Right. There told me this. You know, why they don't say it like literally, they're literally like sixty million his max if I had that size and that talent and that athletic ability because they sit up they look at him, and they marvel at his abilities. And they say they can't believe how much he doesn't seem to care now again in fairness to Android is. I've never spoken to him. Because if I did want to one I would ask him about that. Because that's what they don't question as ability. They question his one in now. My point is for the right deal with Jimmy Butler. My point is this about towns versus Wiggins with towns, I don't care if you don't see the fire Jimmy if towns is playing worse because you're on the team by Jimmy Butler weakens the different story Wiggins, you don't look and go he can be the best player in a championship team. So Butler is salty that they gave Wiggins his money because that was Butler's money, obviously. Now, it's going to Wiggins fine. But the bottom line is the team is about Karl Anthony towns, it's not about oh, it's not about Butler. It's not about was about Karl Anthony towns and his development. The towns if he wants it to be, regardless of the fact that you get your money at the end of the day when they call your number five straight times, and you can't even produce a free throw because that's a problem. But if his, but what you can stand on principle and say he should be like this. You should be like that. And Butler's the right kind of fiery guy, but the bottom line is the results if forget about standing our principle. If butlers presence is limiting Karl Anthony towns goodbye Jimmy Butler, but you do have to wait for the right down. Minnesota hit a record twenty three's last night in to your earlier point. I think the real story was no one could contain Derrick rose again grow. True. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be this smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Ashra lingering odor. Make the switch at J L dot com slash sports. Warning this products. Eighteen nicotine is an addictive chemical. This is sports center right now with us out of southbound undefeated in third ranked Notre Dame will be without quarterback in book for Saturday's game against Florida state of twenty s hand source book has an undisclosed injury. Brandon wimbush is expected to start against her Seminoles, so the NFL now we're lady on bell is making headlines literally turning things upside down the running back is once again in Pittsburgh and has yet to report to the Steelers, but bell was seen playing basketball and Ellie fitness cleven, Pittsburgh in video of him walking in the club was also posted online now hasn't sinus fourteen point five million dollar franchise tender he must report to the team by Tuesday or more the season. And if you wondering what he thinks that this situation posted a pair of upside-down tweets yesterday about it for those of us who can read upside down. Here's a translation just about. Everybody has an opinion on my life and worried about what I'm doing. Don't judge me off my decisions because maybe. This is what you do. But most people don't take the time to just simply read between the lines. And that's clearly on them. I'm not apologizing for what I believe is right for myself family and the rest of my peers period. Also, if you're really finding the time to figure out what I'm saying you've prove my point for more on this. Here's I take. I think he proved his point by the way Tedy Bruschi with us. What's going on teddy? What's going on? Molly. How you doing guys? Good. Why are they outside down like down tweets on the path? Those chat. Not many of them missing something here with upside down before we get into it. Yeah. He's saying you got if your he's making a point like you care so much about what I'm saying that you'll turn this thing upside down and spend the effort to read between the lines, and my wreck me, and my response to that would be then who's the problem with the people reading it or you because why would you expend energy precisely look here? Here's the issue here. Levian bell is sitting out this number of games because he's trying to get two free agency with as little wear and tear as possible the strategy made a lot of sense to me, in fact, and it still make sense you're going to miss ten weeks of punishment. You're going to show up in time for a playoff run. And then maybe a run in the actual playoff when the spotlight is on you. I don't care how well James Connor slang is not as good as levian bell. Levy on bell is dawn. It out there in every single way running back can be great on the field. And so by the time, you get the free agency, you'll be fresh on everyone's mind, I really think bell is more key to the Pittsburgh offense like all the non quarterbacks in the league. We're really key to their team's offense who's more than levian bell. Really? When he's been missing in playoff games. I've always thought like, well, I don't know what they do about this. The point is it that's all setup lovely for him. Now, you get into free agency. They go hit your twenty seven years old. We don't want to guarantee you three years. You might fall off in two I'm twenty seven, but I'm really more like twenty six and a half and half last year off. Maybe you get that bigger candidacy against that. You're sacrificing the money you're giving up this year. My feeling is probably comes out even in the wash. And all he really did. Save himself. Ten games of where a tear maybe extend his career on the back end a little bit more. I don't know if he really gained from it. But I understand the strategy. He does not need to be drawing this kind of attention to himself right now. This makes it feel like his feelings are hurt. Like he's aware that James CONNER is taken some of his thunder away because he's played. Well, thank or. I think it's just annoying teams. A I'm just put myself in GM's position this dude dignity had to do in his view to get paid whether or not it works. I don't have a problem with that. But wait he's causing a commotion. Every step of the way. I don't know if I want to deal with that. I don't think he did himself any favors with this tweets. Go ahead. Go at teddy. There comes. There comes a point in time. We're levian Bill is finally going to have to respond, and I think that he feels that it's imminent in terms of his reporting to his team the team that he's left hanging for all these weeks. So eventually he's going to have to speak. I think this is his way to almost start to understand that. Yes, I'm going to have to say something I gotta say at some way. This is my way, you know, if this is this is the way he wants to do it. This is the way I'm a twenty six year old running back. And this is I've been you can I'm only trying to imagine all of the other ways things have come at him through his teammates or through the. Media or through social media about how him just. The people calling himself people saying you're doing what's best for you. But we don't need you James Connors demand. Now, all I can only imagine what he's going through. So there's going to come point in time where I mean, he's going to be standing at his locker and all those cameras are going to be in front of him. And maybe this is something he'll reference maybe he won't want to address it publicly with his voice in front of cameras. And maybe they're just this. This is his way. I don't have a problem with it. Because I could only because the time is coming that he has to do this. If this is his way right now before he reports to his team so bid so be it. But I'll just say this fella's, I'll say this as a captain that's been captain of multiple championship teams. Once you get here. The circus has to end the circus has to end you gotta get here. And you got to give us the best. You got for however long you're going to be here. Because if not then I don't want you here, and I urge my head coach in my organization just pay him and tell them to leave because we got this Connor. Kid here that's doing well. And that's all we need right now. And that we don't need this distraction. We don't need the circus. We've already dealt with at the beginning of the year. You saw the visceral reactions of the team mates have when they felt like he was coming back, and then he did it. So now they've gotten over it. They've gotten over it tremendously. You should see these guys block in for James Connor on film downfield juju Smith Schuster Brown. They're all blocking for him because they know we got something. Now, we are over it. The mental the mental toughness that they've shown that one of their best pieces are gone, and they're still playing good football. Now, they're over it. But now it's coming back. And so here comes that distraction back in here comes at circus with the upside down tweets in the typing and all of that stuff. What's it going to be Levy on because as a leader? I just don't want it. Do I want you to play and give us everything you got for however, many as left. Yes. But if it's not we gotta have a conversation Tedy Bruschi. I got news for you. I'm already ticked off at Le vian bell. If. I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers more. So now than at any other time because you you left Miami you came back to Pittsburgh. And then you put out this tweet. You didn't put out this tweet a week ago when you were in Miami before you got back here you got back in town. And now you put this tweet out. So what you're doing now is setting the stage for distraction that had been recreated before the season even begin that we had worked to get over and get beyond. And now here you are bringing it again. So when you make the statement Tedy Bruschi that all right once you get here, it has to stop the problem is he just jump started in once he arrived back in Pittsburgh. You don't necessarily have to be in that locker room to chill. You don't necessarily have to be in that locker room and have a conversation with the team before you recognize it. Okay. Enough enough enough is enough with supposed to be the case. But a moment he got off that damn plane and landed back in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The fact that this tweet. Came out prior to the t- to him returning to the team supposedly extensively this Tuesday shows excuse me, that's where your mind is. That's where your focus is. And you know, what the result the residual effective at all? It's going to beat teddy. Amac's you know, what it is going to be right today. Reporters go roll up in that locker roll and start asking them about this again through the weekend in the Tuesday when he returned. This is not only a unique situation for Levy on bell. This is a unique situation throughout throughout the NFL in terms of someone holding out and not getting what they wanted and decided not even go back but hold out as long as they possibly can to further their worth for the next season. This kid. He look at selfish. This can be looked at as selfish. Yes. So you've got to understand the conflict that Levy on. I would I am assuming that he has a conflict inside of him that this is right for me. But I know how it looks. How do I need to deal with this ROY teddy to deal with it is just to shut up and show up on your show up? Like, he he does that. No this. We know that the drop dead date. We know what that is for him to get paid into kick in free agency in the big thing is not even the money this year. It's how does he get two free agency right now he has taken or leave it offers from Pittsburgh if he wants to open himself up to bidding and find his real market value. Which obviously does he's got a show up this week. Right. We know that already. Why does he need to tweet about it? He'll be asked about it at press is all that. They will respond. It is this the players of this generation, they are not shy to respond and let no let people know how they feel and how it's to express themselves or social media. It's just the way it is right now. I mean, I can't expect him to be the type of old school. This is the way it is get off my lawn type of thing just shut up and get in here. This is the way it is now players express themselves. This is the way Levy on bell chose. It's a little bit strange. Yeah. You type it in upside down text. Yeah. That's a little bit strange to me. But if you got something to say, go ahead and say it because the way young man has to deal with this is an incredible amount of pressure. Once he gets there. He I think he understands that. And this is dealing with it guys. Let's leave it there because I want to get into the game so Nobel no problems. The Steelers have won four straight. You talked about James Connors, then balling and Cam in the Panthers come to town. They won three straight. Stephen it. I'll start with you, which is a bigger threat to make the Super Bowl paying. I think is the Steelers and the reason why I think is the Steelers is because the New England Patriots all who they are. I get all of that. But and they should be the favorites. But outside of that is formidable is Kansas City is offensive -ly. Did defense is suspect Houston, we don't know about them. We liked Davian and JJ watt. We love the fact that the Maria's Thomas as partner DJ Hopkins, we see the show on Watson coming on strong. But we don't know about them. When you look at Baltimore the Steelers handed him don't get me started with Cincinnati. So I think the road to prosperity is easier page, but the Steelers through the AFC, regardless of what we're seeing from Cam and the Carolina Panthers, and it is impressive with funches with Olson with Christian McCaffrey has changed the complexity of that team would know of Turnage offensive coordinator leading Cam Newton the bottom line is you got Atlanta. You got New Orleans. You got LA you got Philadelphia. You got the NFC north football. We know Amerada might escape out of that division or right or Khalil Mack might come back and be as strong as he was before he got injured. So the road to prosperity is difficult for more difficult as far as I'm concerned in the NFC than it is for the AFC. And that's why I would say the saints and Rams with the answer is actually the Panthers. Because by the way, in both conferences, you have teams that you think are better than the Panthers. And better than the Steelers. You have as usual the patriots. They have a better coach better quarterback and you'd favor. Them over the Steelers. You have the chiefs the way they're looking at. I really liked the chargers, especially when Bosa gets back, and of course in the NFC. We all know what it is. It's the Rams it's the saints. And maybe the team might the Vikings on any given Sunday. Right. Okay. The difference here to me is north Turner right now. Now that Shanahan's a head coach Norv Turner is now in OC again, he might be vessel. See and football. I mean, you could make the argument he's scheming guys open. He's getting guys to the perimeter. He's using in in creative ways. He's got cams completion percentage. Stephen at you pointed out yesterday higher than it's ever been. I mean Turner has this offense co licking, and if you have an elite offense in Carolina, they always have a good defense, and you kind of one man army in Cam Newton. I'll tell you what they got a chance against anybody. I think between these two teams it's a tough question. If I say who's more likely to get to the Super Bowl based on what I've seen so far I say Cam Newton north Turner in the Panthers. Well. It's tough because you almost have to get somewhat the luck of seating here with both of these teams because if the Pittsburgh Steelers have to go into Gillette, I don't know if that's going to happen based on what I've experienced and based on what I've seen in the past in terms of their history of going into Gillette having problems not being able to win there. And then Carolina. I mean, having the problems that they had with New Orleans last year that would be difficult with them, but they have a little more familiarity in terms of playing the saints can Carolina with I think one of the best offensive lines in football, you know, counteract the high powered offenses of of the of the Rams are of the saints. Am I think that's possible? I would go with Carolina because of Cam Newton and all the things that he does and sort of going on the road in having that mentality which I've seen them. Do. I would take the Panthers to have a better chance. One man army with an army now it's like we're about to find out one hundred percent. Teddybears bruschi. Appreciate you. We will see on NFL live a little later. Oh, he's getting your perspective. Guys. Do you open minded about tennis, very interested in that? He was open mind. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene. You never recent hailstorm here to describe the events of the ball, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows. Broken was savage digital anything to help, bro. I was in survival mode. Your football can't help you in a hailstorm. But that guy go insurance can can help you get covered for personal property damage. Co gyco to see how affordable homeowners insurance can be. I would say mostly I just don't think that a lot of players in particular me. Just don't really like the franchise to the organization what it stands for what it's always stood for just never really appreciated. What the organization and what its fans released. Fairweather people from across the country. That just kind of fell in love because they're winners instead of having any type of emotional connection to the team whatsoever. Now is the eagles. Jason Kellyanne WIP radio just saying how people really feel about the Kelsey as how the Cowboys really feel about them. Well, well canes here, you know, that lasts it's going on. Well, I know I know I know dwell Kane is still in Dallas. I know that you're from Texas at all. And I got no problem that you being home you deserve to work, hard and all this other stuff, but considering the way to Cowboys stuck up to joint Monday night. I would think you'd run out of the state at least had the decency to go to Houston, which has a better team than the boys. Right. Well, I don't know why you qualify for the bereavement discount on one of the yet is true. That is true. That is someone. Well, maybe there's a lesson learned here. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here. I'm not running. I'm not moving to Houston. I'm not getting out of town because you're right. The Cowboys suffered in. Embarrassing loss on Monday night. I'm here to stay because despite what you Stephen A or your protege. Jason Kelsey up in Philadelphia had to say about this. I didn't know by the way, our patching. Crib notes. Does he watch I take or do you hand those two in behind the scenes? I don't understand that man is it is the Stephen Smith show. Jason is it I take one from Jason. Hold on will hold on. We'll first of all your contributed to the show Modum manage because Jason Kelsey watches this show all the time. Pleasure had to pledge. I had the pleasure hanging out with him. And his brother Travis who I got mad love for. And by the way, the MRs Travis Kelsey, hey, how you doing the point that I'm trying to make saying? Hello. I'm just saying. She was very very nice to me. I'm just saying that Travis grab it. I loved those brothers. Travis. A jason. And I will say this Jason Kelsey does watch show. He knows I'm a huge fan ahead. Who does a great job as a center for the Philadelphia Eagles who we're going to smash the Cowboys this week Paddington haven't done all of that? Having said all of that. I will say this. Jason Kelsey is actually wrong. I can accuse Dallas cowboy fans being discussed the nauseated. You know, put that they are for being a lot of things, but fair weather is not one of them. Right. I can't say that about Cowboys fan allusion day day. They do they do stay there. And support their team. One of the problem. How dash bowling? Bowling van lagging like back in the day people. Yes. I know he's saying that he's wrong. First of all, they're not fair weather. They're delusional. That's one of the problems. Jerry Jones doesn't have to really worry about fielding a winter. You're all going to serve his own ego because the fans aren't going anywhere. But the real reason there are so many Cowboys fans, I alone have figured this out. If not just because Landry became the head coach giants coordinator. I mean, really the giants should be the most popular all the time. Yes. Call the top coordinators and the giants had Bella chick Lombardi Landry. They let go that was their mistake should be the giants history. But anyway, bring up that's right four Super Bowls anywhere. But the point the point. The point is the Dallas Cowboys are in the south and in the west they were also the western most team in the country for decades. We just like just like the St Louis cardinals baseball. So they had that going for them, then they play for some reason in the NFC east. So their biggest rivals come from highly dense population areas like biggest in the world New York City or Philadelphia therefore the end because they were very successful in the past. They were tied for second. Most successful franchise with a bunch of other teams they have become this huge franchise with the new jewel, but not fair weather fan base. That's the problem. I'm the moderator not a debater. But can I please correct max because you're much smarter than men? You're always right, but you're wrong. The reason everybody's Cowboys fan. They were on national TV they were one of the teams that were televised. That's how they everyone. Is that people you're talking about Tex Schramm? I'm giving you new original analysis, Molly like something. Goes back decades. Then think that goes back decades doesn't need new original analysis. We know what happened. Yeah. And I applaud you Steven A and even part of your soliloquy. Max, not your geographic analysis, but you at least can recognize Jason Kelsey good in football batted at analysis. Dallas cowboy fans cannot be accused of being fair weathered you both recognize that. That's why I'm in Dallas. I'm not run to Houston. That's why I'm not running anywhere despite the loss because it doesn't come and go it doesn't received like the tide it stays permanent because this fan base. Yes. While wide is also deep it goes across the country. But it doesn't come in and out with wins and losses. It's dedicated. In fact, that's why Stephen a Smith says the things he says about every year. No matter what you come up a loss. We're gonna win the Super Bowl next year. Because that's the way it is. And that's the definition of a good fan. But more importantly, Jason Kelsey says this he doesn't like what the organization stands for to me that says more about Jason than it. Does the Dallas Cowboys because what is the Dallas Cowboys franchise stand for? Well, it's America's team. It stands for self made riches self made success in this great country from owners to their own success on the football field. It is built from the ground up. It's not over money rich handed franchises, New York. Giants. Pittsburgh Steelers partially. Jason is right. It's about winning the Cowboys one in the seventies. The Cowboys won in the nineties. They have built fan bases across this country over time because America likes a winner. And I'm sorry eagles fans. You just got your first won a couple of decades into this project. You haven't been able to build up that national fan base like the Cowboys and to a lesser extent the Steelers because you know, what? While these franchises have decades of winning. You have one in the end. It sounds to me like nothing more no deeper analysis than simple, petty jealousy. Well, I would say this. Nobody has a reason to be jealous of the Dallas Cowboys for the last quarter century now if you want to sit up there and go to as Michael Irvin would say. All of history as opposed to recent history or my history, that's different. But if you looking at recent history for the last quarter century, there's no reason to be jealous of the Dallas Cowboys unless you're all about the money and popularity and you're not about winning the reality of the situation is you're going to have to accept the fact that you are a fan of a franchise that has come up significantly short for decades. And also, they sit up there, and they gloss over that stuff because of popularity and brilliant marketing now, if you if that's what you care about will, that's fine. But the fact is over the last quarter century you have no justification over the last quarter century the same. What you said you're challenging the debate. Nobody here in this. Great city, nobody in this state. Nobody in America's team fan base is pleased with what's happened over the last twenty years. Trust me, Stephen and Jason Kelsey wants to kick us while we're down he can do that. Because ev. Everybody recognizes right now that we are down. But what this man is dead is something about the fan base in the franchise and more importantly, what it stands for. And I just want you understand earlier this week both of you, please listen to this earlier this week. I had on on my show the Cain show. Dennis Miller, the comedian and he's in Pittsburgh Steeler fan. And he grew up rooting for the Steelers like you Stephen in the seventies. And I asked him who'd you hate who hate the most. So why didn't like the Cowboys? But you know, what I always respected them. Do you know why? Because my favorite player of all time lead that team Roger starbuck. I mean, American hero. Forget America's team American hero. These are the reasons that this country has been attracted to this team over time. You're right. Stephen they need to be better. Jerry Jones, they need to be better. But this is what this organization's even that is too deep analysis if you really want to get it because most of team sports following has to do with geographic leaving for laundry. Really if you really want to get to it. If you call your team the Cowboys, especially at a time in our history where Cowboys and Indians. Were celebrated as a popular culture theme. And you win a bunch of Super Bowls. You'll build be really popular, particularly if you're located in Texas. So there you have you want to get the simplest explanation. They're not the most successful franchise of all time. They they have not been successful in Baltimore in twenty three years, but they have the star on the helmet, and they have one of the better histories in the league. And they're geographically fortunately located and they've been marketed. Well, well, if I didn't have to go on a plane to Zona, I would like to continue this conversation with you on the Wilkins. Yes. What maybe an excellent, Molly. Because I'm very annoyed. Yes. I'll see in Arizona. I'm gonna get on that same plane later tonight. Why why are you come because I'll tell you why real quick John me only one because I'm the only one on set with the backbone to get into Neff sixteen check it out tomorrow. And I take. You write about that? Because I'll be damned if I get on one, by the way, I was gonna do. Then they're like you've got a few waivers. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm out. All right. Well, we'll see you tomorrow. You bet. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended Jewish. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. 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"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance good. It's it's it's like a cigarette. But not I don't miss smoking. At all. Like, I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Make the switch and J U L dot com slash sports. Warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical. Company. American women tear. With a tear as well. Let me tell you. This is a treat. Thank you guys so much for having us. They. Because you all are the real deal to thank you so much. We're gonna have some fun today. 'cause you know who's here. I takes in the building Stephen a Smith. Kellerman. Molly. Karen, let me say this. Thank you for gifts. Stephen already using them the small off. I want you know that. Thank you. As my new notebook. You'll be seeing notebook. We actually do take notes. All right, guys. We ready to do this. I'm always ready because we had a football game last night. You must be feeling real good football game. Eating let me till grit flares going to be here too. Ten people is going to be on the show. We'll canes going to be on the show. So we have a lot in store for you. So let's get into it below loud on Thursday night. Football Steelers dominating the Panthers on both sides of the ball. Ben Rothlisberger nearly perfect twenty to twenty five for three hundred twenty yards five while the Steelers defense sacked Cam five times, picking him off once mathematically this was it that the Steelers were that good or you feel like the Panthers, which is that that Steelers are that good. They're a hot team and they're getting hotter. As the season moves on from time with the Browns early. And I did not think this a playoff team coming into this season. I like the ravens better I thought the Bengals were right there with the Steelers. I thought the Steelers really have to be fighting on wire. I do love the fact that you brought up that you didn't even have gone to the wreck because I was going to bring it up. I don't have to bring it up. I don't run it took. I don't run. Okay. Okay. All right. The point is that this Steelers team goes from a tie with with Cleveland to go. On the road to Baltimore to now, ripping up on Panthers team. That's really quite good. Now, I understand and we're gonna get to this in a minute. It's a Thursday night game. The Panthers are on the road. We know funky things like that happen. But this dealers team we knew about the offense we wondered how go without Levy on bell. Ben Rothlisberger who I thought was declining. And I thought who's showing evidence that last year and then early this year is on fire this Steelers, obviously the skills positions. Phil have what they need in Connor's been excellent this year and the defense it's not just the secondary. Everyone's talking about the secondary. How about that pass rush last night putting Cam under pressure? Now, they couldn't do a lot with McCaffrey out of the backfield. I get it. There's still some. They're not a perfect team. But this is a white hot team that showed you how good they were last night. Good Steelers bad Panthers. Let's get right to it. Okay. First of all, we all know, we all know that I'm a steal as fan. And unlike some people, I know are predicted they were gonna go to place. A matter of fact, I had to steal is going to the Super Bowl even even K at the city's put gave me caused to pause, but let me be very very clear the Panthers stunk up the joint last night. I mean, they passed gas on national television. But they did. Okay. This is what happens when you. Excuse me. Ladies because skews me if something smells it smells. Okay. And that's the reality of the situation. I mean, it was a skunk. That showed up it at hunt field last night on that better for you. I mean, this is what it is the reality. Is this no matter how good the Steelers have bit and their offense is sensational in. There is no doubt about that. When you're leading receiver is four catches for forty yards in Greg Olson, that's all you need to know Cam Newton's complete sixty eight percent of his pets. Then Matt last thing I pass to the game. He throws it in temps that events. Where return for pick six? Okay. That's before a seventy five yard hookup from Big Ben Rothlisberger juju Smith Schuster. I'm gonna give names here. Because listen, it's like a mugshot. That's what put up these guys James bradberry. Dante Jackson and Eric Reeves. I mean, you talk about dude that didn't show up let we sorta ever agreed citing because of a hit on Big Ben Rothlisberger that got him ojected. That's the only. Relevant thing that the Panthers secondary did last night. That is not typical Carolina Panthers. His defense stout. Big, tom. It's good. But it's not that it's not on that level. But this certainly not that bad. I'm not taking anything away from what we still for the Pittsburgh Steelers. But had you had you won the game thirty five thirty one or something along those lines. I would understand the respect where it's coming from. We're talking about a Carolina team. That's given up thirty one Lanta. Let's giving up thirty one thirty one of the New York Giants Twenty-three a Redskins twenty eight to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right. The ravens go at twenty one point to get them. They bend a lot. But don't necessarily break last night. Not only did they break they broke both four five minutes had a rock in the game. That is not the Carolina though rules when something like that happens. That's an extreme Averill. It's not on Thursday nights the rules L Thursday night. That's right. That what you write the rules of the NFL are set up in a way that favor the offense to such. Absurd extent nowadays, which the fans love it's happening in basketball too. Whenever happens in baseball that gets more popular fans love offense. Everyone says defense wins championships but most especially casual fans love offense. And it's so out of whack at this point that when two teams neither have a great amount of time to prepare. I defensive team gets killed the last two any rupture because I don't want to get from you about Thursday night. No one love Thursday night football. What to you Thursday nights have been very good. This your early on. However, another excuse me out another. No, no, you're trying to take. Philosophically? I don't wanna hear it landing about you have been loving Thursday night. Phil come in now to laugh at it day night football next games have resulted in defenses giving up an average of forty three points. They don't have to be bad games on Thursday night. A lot of the early games were good. But as the hit with America Reacher, he got a check did from that check. What he do? He actually tried to alter his trajectory hit right answer that question. What did he do? We live in an age where a quarterback you can get a jetty for breaking quarterbacks fingernail. That's how bad why Carolina looked. So what I'm trying to say to you is. What he did? Everyone knows. Everyone knows one of quarterback is sliding he was in the air time. Everyone knows when a quarterback is slotting feet. I you can't touch a we don't like it. We uphold the rule, but it has been in place long enough him to nobody. I agree with evergreen. It wasn't intentional. That's why he gave big their path and Ben Rothlisberger didn't overreact. Because you're right. He tried to alter body in the where he didn't try to hit his head in any way. But one of quarterback is sliding feet. I if you're breathe on him. First of all the teams are tired because they have short rest and Secondly the league sending them every message. Hey defense. Don't try hard. I mean, so you get lot. You get defense is giving up huge points as Carolina did Pittsburgh is for real Carolina was on short rest. And that is that's what I'm saying to you is that for this question for the purposes of this discussion what was more prevalent, and I'm saying that I'm saying, well, let me finish Steelers offense is explosive as they were last night. We will side that explosion. Are you gonna let me finish both sides to actually actually we're not going nowhere. Not disagree point. Is the Steelers offense. It's indicative of who they are that Carolina Panthers defense. No is very few teams in the NFL that stinks that early. They stunk two minutes into the game. Right. But I just told you every defense last week's stunk on Thursday night. Meantime, Pittsburgh's offense you am. I'm glad you said it. You said that because you cannot talk to me about those. It hits offense is for real. What we see from Pittsburgh. Now VO is a secondary that can play with a pass rush up front. I mean, that's the whole thing with kids for what have you been lamenting for years now right years ago? You would talk about the Pittsburgh offense of line Tomlin fixed that came on this show and point that out to you try pointed it out, and you guys fixed it now you've been religiously every week to week turn out their secondary. Not only is their secondary better. But the pass rushes there to this is what you've been waiting for us. First of all while I'm not saying, it's not a matter of enjoyment. I'm doing just fine. It's Friday Chilin. I'm getting ready to fly home after the show who has the tie on. I'm good. And let's not bring up the absence of the tie. If you got a better dress sports writer in America show me who that brother is. I'm here to tell you. All right. So let's be clear the bottom line is this the Steelers we lamented Kansas City's defense, for example. What did the steel of score that game? I believe it was thirty eight points. If I remember correctly they had that in a second quarter yesterday. They had to the second quarter. All I'm trying to say is that for this particular night? It was more bad Carolina. So when we talk about the Steelers being for real in my opinion, it's can they go to the Super Bowl can they compete against Kansas City can they compete against the patriots. Let me ask you this any Stewart's fancier. Back. Ooh, interesting. Let's get into that subject. So Pittsburgh has now on five in a row, and according to president art Rooney additional health is on the way Rooney's at the Steelers Nobels and Pittsburgh the team is expecting Hopi back next week, Stephen a Smith, you just hear these men and women out here. They're not. So sure they want him chemistry's good James Connors playing. Well, with the way this team is playing do they really want lady on to return? I don't think they do. I don't think they do. Now. Let me be very very clear, I'm not going to get into the greatness of Levy on bell. Because that's no debate. We all understand how great he is a nominal of a play. He is. There is absolutely positively nothing about his skill set and his numbers and his level of production that he brings to the table. That's not the subject here. The subject here is a team that's rolling that views him as a distraction to them because of the many which he has handled free agency. I'm not telling you how. I feel as far as I'm concerned take them back the brother in bowl period, but we are on a military thing you ever that. We were in front of a crowd that appreciates the importance of teamwork relying on your brother or your sister along the way, you're Conrad along the way these. These books. When you have a situation where you have ofensive Lamin who disagreed with for call him out, but they call him out. And then you have a coach going on the record saying we want volunteer's not hostages what I'm saying is it's not Stephen eight talk. And it's not max talk. It's not any pundit commentator out there. That's talking. We're talking about what the Steelers are saying what are we to make of what are we to decipher from what they're talking about. What they're talking about is we're fine. Without you, take every single quotes. You have heard emanating out of the Steelers locker room out of the steel city it regardless of his greatness, and it's unquestionable greatness. They have been saying, we're fine without you. And then going on a field over the last five weeks and put on display we found out to the point where very last night after damn near perfect game. What a perfect passer rating for Glenn Big Ben Rothlisberger one of the greatest performances of his career. He's asked a question about Libya bell. He looks to report a straight in the face and says, I'm not talking about anybody. That's not in this locker room, very dismissive, very nonchalant. Very matter of fact about it. Because what they're saying is you sir have been a distraction. And I think that's why we saw all of those tweets from Levy on bell last night because we see somebody trying to re-ingratiate himself to that locker room because he knows he's coming back. And he knows this quite a few people. He's ticked off inside that locker room. They're not going to deal with people who aren't in the locker room Levy on Bell's not in the locker room. That is true. And we understand the NFL teams. That's the way they feel in the off season. If not a controversy, your your money once the season starts, we gotta roll with who's here. Right. That's fine. The fact is it set up in such a way that if labor in this case players want to get paid. Sometimes they have to hold out Levy on bell is taking it to an extreme measure showing up. The last moment he could still get his money and become a free agent when he shows up in the locker room, it'll be different because he will be one of the guys he will be volunteer. He's not so much a hostage as he is the kidnapper kidnapped himself away from the team right for ransom money, and he's going to get it at the end of the year when he becomes a free agent as four should they want him back. Guys think about this first second you made this point with with Dez Bryant on the saints. I'm saying I don't know if I'd take desk Bryant right now, the chemistry's good on the saints. They're rolling. Molly your point. Was death comes out Cameron? It's getting me skipped. Oh, and they have Dez Bryant guys. The Steelers are so hot right now. Your argument is don't mess up the chemistry, but you know, what's more important than that fielding a good team and James the concussion protocol. So it's like, oh what's going to happen to the Steelers? Now, we had this good hard charging crate story. Great productive team chemistry locker room running back James Connor now is health may be in jeopardy. How are we going to fill that void? Oh, I don't know. How about by the bet with the best running back in the game. You're going to talk about your battery turn when last seen the best back in the game. Who you can split out. Why put in the slot run out of the backfield Ican block, everything you want? But that's changing the subject, and here's what I mean. Here's what I'm me about it. I'm not charging you for it. I'm being serious. It's changing the subject because we know they're going to take him back. They don't have to let him sign that franchise tag. Of course, they wanna back as an organization, of course, you realize his greatness what we're talking about is from an emotional. Perspective that guy that actually have to get on that field that guy that you figured if we speaking, of course, particularly for this audience, the guys you have to go to battle with how welcoming are they going to be of him you accept it you accept his greatness? But you know, what you also remember, and I sit up there, and I'll ask you all this question based on a round of applause. How many folks would remember that when they were losing? And they started off one two and one this brother was sending footage of him on jet skis, south beach, who who would forget that. You see what I'm trying to say is that you have people, and I'm not calling Levy on bell. I have no problem with the position any took because I understand his business. But understand he was basically into indicating to them at least, according to some of the cats in that locker room who I've spoken to and there he was indicating he was looking for y'all to fail. He was. Lavishing in the possibility that Joe was thinking because he wasn't there that is something that resonates with teammates. I'm not talking about the general manager on a field. I'm not talking about the owner. I'm not talking about the executives of stairs. I'm talking about those brothers got the show up on the field with when they was ugly, or what Chilin and basically joyous taking it that way. And that's awesome. This is not an argument. I either side is claiming there's no evidence on the other side. There's not a good position on the other side. I'm not claiming it's so clean. Everything is hunky Dory. Everything's be great. I'm saying when you weigh it that which is real that's real. We saw that happen against the fact that Qatar's now concussion protocol and more than anything, even if he's fine points out that you need death, and you are trying to win a Super Bowl. And it looks like you have a real chance to do it. When you have a chance to return a player like Levy on bell. And you know, once he steps in from his point of view. He's trying to win. What? Better stage for him in the playoffs. But you gotta remember out. You got to remember to them to them. There are some people inside that locker room who are questioning his willingness to win. They understand the business side of it. But they're what extra things that came into the equation. There is no reason while Levy on bell would feel the need to send an upside down tweet or last night during the game, the Senate abundance of tweets while the games are going on if you know you right, not if he not handle that situation. Perfect. But I know you're not questioning that. I'm simply saying he knows he didn't do that. And God's can accept Dizza difference between God's accepting that you're needed and wanting you to be there did the different. And I'm sure everybody can understand it. Let me ask this. If Connor can't go next week. So they're gonna appreciate the fact that he's there. But again, they're not gonna be happy about the fact they need. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Okay. That that. That's right. That's why that's why it's an argument because that's that's the balance. But the bottom line is you look at that team Antonio Brown. You can't do better than that juju. Smith Schuster is your number two receiver that number one third. That's that's going to go down historically is one of the great pairings ever. Right. This is passing rothlisburger quarterback playing gift Vance McDonald. And Jesse James at the tight end spot. Very good though there how they have weapons wherever you look and James Connors, and you're about to add this dude, you're about to add the most one of the most versatile running backs ever live. You got on your you. Can't you can't elevate the importance of team chemistry one day, and then ignore it the next I'm telling you all I'm saying is we know the greatness of levian bell. But we cannot ignore the fact he took some of those they want them to return yesterday. Oh, you're saying no, I'm saying. Yeah. I'm saying I'm saying there's a few dudes decide that locker room that don't want him. There's so many on a football team. You never gonna have. That's the James CONNER. They needed. They don't need JiaXuan again kosher protocol. That's why they hate the fact that they need them. I'm with you. They have the Jags Broncos chargers. Coming up next. The steelers. Smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended you'll so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to Joel check OJ dot com slash sports. If you don't smoke don't start warning. 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I would start with the saints a tough test weekend within outy how much better do you think they are Steven A now adding Dez Bryant first of all I think this inefficiently better. I think that when you consider the fact that they chop away at you. Yes, they're capable of the big place. But that's because so many dues make plays after the catch. Michael Thomas is top five receiving football alva- Kamara one the top weapons for Tunis brothers leaked. And when you consider the fact that you added Mark Ingram to the mix suspended the first four games of the season. And now he's back. You got to do threat out of the backfield. So you can play the power game you can play the nets game. You have one of the most accurate quarterback in NFL history. Drew Brees completed seventy six point three percent of his past. And so when you look at it. From that perspective. And you're usually not going outside the numbers you're doing in between the numbers, and you've got a God capable of playing the slot. That is a big receiver that can make things happen in terms of moving the chains. That's an additional weapon for a guy in drew Brees that didn't need any additional weapons. So when you look at it from that perspective, I think the saying the New Orleans Saints are incredibly formidable and don't get me started on what they're going to do to the Cincinnati Bengals this weekend. I'll get into that. And a second. I don't think I don't think it actually changes them much as a team. I think that Dez Bryant there's a reason that he wasn't perceived the same way in recent years, and it wasn't just the team around. He wasn't getting separation the same way not that he was ever the fastest guy in the world. But he still capable of going up on a fifty fifty ball and making a great play. And you see it like with Adrian Peterson Peterson doesn't do it every single week anymore. Like he wants it. This is what happens to great athletes age. But every now, and then they can remind you why they were special and with. Drew Brees quarterback Peyton breeze. The offense of line that they have the running game that they have. There will be times where people lose their minds over the kinds of plays that Dez will make. But ultimately, do I think he changes the kind of team they are especially if you're down camera Meredith and now you add bright? No, I think they're about as good now as they were before they got him, which is damn good. Me. I'm I'm all of our drew Brees. He's a bad, man. I wish you take. It is the NFL can listen listen. Listen, listen. Nobody's gonna take it easy on the falcons right now because their defense they've been buried with inundated with injuries. But let me get to this Sunday's game for the Cincinnati Bengals respect. Okay. You got to Cincinnati Bengals. I just want the world to understand. Although I'm one of those guys that believe Marvin Lucian beat the head coach, we all know half you when the damn playoff game fifteen years. I know you love him. I don't. I'll let you know what they interviewed me on a radio show in Cincinnati last week. And I did tell them I would lay off Marvin Lewis if you want one play of damn chain that I gotta sit up there and say that. How long season sixteenth season in the National Football League? You haven't won playoff game. Just a disgrace the disgrace. But I'm on a military base. Not want to be nice today. I really really do. So what I would say to you is this what I would say this to the late to the folks out there. Cincinnati bingo fans everywhere my condolences because the beatdown at your about to absorb this weekend. Let me explain something. AJ green is not playing one of the elite receivers in the game. He's not playing that's strike number one strike number two Cincinnati Bengals you got the worst pass defense. It entire NFL rank thirty two dead last number three Cincinnati dead number four some kid call all at once sacked for the first game of the season. But he's second which seventeen hurries against quarterback. He's out. So you got cats Gino Atkins and Carlos done that that's got to make up against who. Drew brees. Mutt? Condolences to the Cincinnati big old time in joy this week. 'cause come Sunday y'all gonna get react strawberries playing. All right do breeze. It's been playing I'll give it to him. Yeah. Early. Flawless football this year. I mean part of it is he's great part of it is he's got a great old line. He's got weapons everywhere. He looks part of it is the rules are favoring the offense in the quarterback and part. Also he plays in a dome. Drew Brees at home is a different guy. He's on the road against the Bengals this week thirty nine years old. So you're sure you're going to be right. The Clinton the. Yeah. The cliff is changed now that they're playing touch. I don't even hundred down flippant. No. We are not allowed because I have love for my partner. Max kellerman. I actually love the God. Okay. When the nicest guy, ever, meet in your life, so out of love for max Kellerman. We don't use the word cliff on this show because it reminds everybody of the after night comment about Tom Brady. Okay. I will. That comment that was before you weren't allowed to breathe on the quarterback that was four that is not channels changed. Speaking of the AFC, let me ask you this. So obviously chiefs have best record in the NFL. But they're young the experience necessarily we got the patch. We got the chargers on their tail which team. Do you think is the best in the AFC? Great as mccombs is. I just feel like in play off time and you're going to have to deal with hatred. The bakery. And every time you walk on. Hey, I gotta tell you something. It's not that. I'm a patriot fan. I'm a friend of town friend. I am but coins of Tom Brady and what I met him at Michigan with Harbaugh on record into or a couple years ago. I assure you couldn't meet a nice guy. Anybody could be difficult. You would think it'd be Tom Brady Tom Brady develop and he walked over and introduced himself. First of all, let me say this. I do I need to ask somebody to give me some Kleenex tissue. Because here's the problem. We talk about Tom Brady. It's like, oh, my Lord. Thank you, very much wipe, the tears. I mean my goodness. Be be critical. Tom brady. I mean. Perfect. All right. The Tom Ford blazes and everything he rocked distant -able. We noticed style cannot be denied when zealous your wife law. Okay. We understand that. Okay. We get that. But last time I checked is greatest. Tom Brady is is greatest Bill Belichick is as far as I'm concerned day. Really America's team not the damn Cowboys. But let me say go, maybe stated the truth. But let me say this is very very important. Does anyone remember the fact that when the patriots won the Super Bowl in two thousand and four it wasn't until another ten years that they won the Super Bowl, plenty of out. What I'm saying that used it? There's been plenty of time to come playoff time. The patriots have got taken out of there. And I think having to go on the road, but take you to Arrowhead stadium against that. Kansas City offense. I gotta be a problem for either way not to mention to mention San Diego, you know, full Britvin LA. Sorry. Thank you. I been doing this now all year and doing the Los Angeles chargers tonight Steelers, look better Steelers, look, great, Los Angeles chargers. Philip rivers is not in the MVP conversation enough. He deserves to be and this is already a good team. There returning Joey below maybe layoffs more than one time in eight years. We think about very high. Gordon on the thing that Steven aid brings up that. I think deserves the most attention here is Tom Brady's looks in my day. The best quarterback in the world had the decency to look like Joe, Montana, a regular guy. Exactly what gives with Tom Brady jacket. All these women are haters down. Radiant, I go guys, you know. He can look I promise you, it ain't the women. Hey, fellas. The looking at Tom living low that was the real reason he wanted Garoppolo out of town. I think. I I think I think porn star Jimmy is just fun. Max giants, right? Guys, Philip rivers that had gone the other way. Do that to us. You got the bad gun. I'll tell you what you're right man, you lie toasted Philip rivers and Ben Rothlisberger is still bowling. But if you would've told me back, then it means to Super Bowls both against the patriots. And Tom Brady one against the other. I'll take it. I'm just like the state for the record. I'm not disrespecting Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo went out and public and let the world know he wanted that name that wasn't me. I'm not taking blame for that. He went on. He went on male roles. You know will pop a rot to wrap it up. Do. Whatever. Molly. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the event, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The shingles got beat up a few windows. Broken was savage. Did you do anything to help, bro? I was in your football. Can't help you in a hailstorm. But the guy go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage cold. Gyco to see how a Ford -able homeowners insurance can be. Right now Collins, the rockets hit a new low last night my gun. Tony calling his teams often anemic after losing by eighteen against the funder Houston only scored eighty points its lowest ever regular season score during the dental ni era. Carmelo Anthony back in. Okay. See with former teammate Russell Westbrook who's missed two games. Because of an ankle injury in Anthony struggling return to okay, see, he wasn't one for eleven finish the night with only two points. Paul George had to go in for the funder here hitting the pull up Denver over mellow, then using the screen from Stephen Adams drilling. Three crush twenty points on the night later in the fourth rockets down by twenty Chris Paul is calling for the offense of thousand given a technical foul. The rockets go onto lose ninety two eighty. Here's Anthony what's ailing the rockets offense. We didn't tonight report. They're going to a little bit of energy spirit. Because. Today. We just didn't have. Now, let's get you back to I take. I. You guys go. Okay. Molly before we get to our next object. I just want to say two things number one yesterday. I went on national television and not talked about little semi beef. With Rondo this fifteen games as the Lakers called me to assure me that his comments were not directed at me that I was mistaken. So my attitude is that okay? I'll take them at their word. Rondos a champion to be respected without question. And if they say that I take them at their word. So my apologies to Rondeau four thinking that he says something about me that this saying he did not say that's point number one point number two. John wall for the Washington Wizards did a little video yesterday because I pointed out that he showed up at a club rose Baud number one club in DC right now. Okay. Let me be very very clear to all y'all out here. Yes. I'm a report inside all of that stuff. But I think to what you do on the court. I don't get into people's personal business. But if you end up on video on Instagram, or in the police blotters, guess what that's no longer project. I'm not dumbing you out. I'm pointing out what everybody knows I got a video of this man at the clo- the night before the opener. Now, the bottom line is John wall. He wasn't disrespectful to me. Never is. I got love for the brother. But he does come across right now as being disrespectful to that Washington. Wizards fan base, you better watch, bro. Because when people raise up and come out after you life is going to be very very hard for you in DC, unless you humble yourself watch it I'm not talking about me, we good. But that crowd in DC, they got there is aimed solely in the direction of that, man. If you think you can handle that you got. Got another thing coming real quick comment on that Steven my guide broadcast partner for years. Marcellus wild has a book out. Now, it's excellent by the way of red half. He does. Yeah. Quest job, bro. Never shut up. And he talks about the fact that when athletes have a certain lifestyle, and they're great. There's no scrutiny. But once you're production falls off, even if it has nothing to do with the fact that you're DJ -ing club, or whatever it is. You do in your off time or to get motivation or juice, even if it's because of injury, but your production falls off. Now that other stuff is going to be scrutinized the reason John walls being scrutinized because his production fell off. That's the reason. That's why. By the way match you usually very very shopping. Hope it I want you to know that somebody has contaminated you you got a little blemish on your time. Oh, boy kids go did you go? Now you look shop. Hey, hey, you something what you plan on yesterday. Thank you. I think they got nine. All right. A little bit Carmelo struggling against his former team rockets fall the foreign six on the season. Max is mill the problem for the rockets. Yes. And let me say something. Let me do you hear that? They're all saying. Yes, you guys here's retire. Here's the pro. Here's the problem with mellow. Don't take this like I'm saying mellows, a bad dude or something like that. Right. I'm not. And he was once a great player. Even if he was never a good defenders. Offense was ridiculous. The league has changed. You know? Like if I get online right something on social media if typing with my thumbs, I don't I don't have facility with it. Because I'm not from that generation a millennial does that. No problem their sleep because I have to think about it. Cornell of physical tools are not only in decline, but he also has to think the game more. Now, it's not the same kind of muscle memory. He had when he was selected on offense somewhere. And he just had to put a move on a guy at score. He now, you can see them take a long to like, even if it goes in. He's mad at himself because he knows he's supposed to take three. He has to think the defense differently everything. And as a result he is terrible on both sides of the ball at the thunder. The thunder sheds themselves of mellow good defensive team. Now, the rock. Who were a good defensive team last year have mellow. They can't play defense. Remember that staff last year with the big three on that team? Which was Chris Paul James harden and cappella when they all played together. They almost went undefeated when the three of them we're all the floor together they were playing last night. And they got whooped there's not just that. They're losing that they lost a Reza. And Luke Mamba Limbaugh take the point is that they replaced him with a with a guy could never play defense at its best. And now can't it all and now has to think through the offense inside of the game rendering completely not just only in ineffective individually, but ruining the team Carmelo unfortunately for him is going to be seen lateness career, especially as a team destroyer whether or not that's even feared that's the narrative that's going to be in place. Here's the deal. Everybody knows I go back. We'll come a long time. We're watching him disintegrate before very odd in the ten games. They played this year. He's had over twenty two for those ten games. Okay. It's not like he's a scrawl. It's not like he can't play. It's not like he can't make a contribution. The problem is when you're asking him to do that in the absence of Lucan Bob moutain along with Trevor REEs on the defensive side of the ball and Jeff does silica which defensive coordinator. But it's a little bit too much. Now, here's where it gets interesting. Dep is Dylan. According to what I'm hearing is on his way back if he hasn't arrived back ready, so he had left. This was a defensive mind that had Houston as one of the top one of the top sixty fits in the NBA last season. He's going to be returning. And if indeed he returns, if he hasn't already the bottom line is you anticipate that their defense will have improved. I'm not gonna just put this or mellow. I'm watching the Houston Rockets collectively not be the team that they will last year the fire in their belly the one it factor all those elements that come with the equation. It's not there. It's almost like they felt like their chains was last year it fell short because CPI three got injured in lake game five couldn't play game six or seven. And as a result. It's almost like they're walking around saying that was out window. We blew it. We have nothing left to give. But I'm gonna tell you that. I'm a hold out hope because of this. Two things that I believe in is the heart of Chris Paul and the skills James harden. I encountered them out and playing when I look at mellow. I'm still holding out hope that he's going to be able to give me what he's given us more on hold on. Now quick. How do you explain this thunder coming off the second of back to back and also by the way plane without Westbrook? That's right behind their defense wins the game against the rockets behind their defense last year. It was a different team with Carmelo on. And I think it's the rocket. But the thunder on answer that too much one on one how many times have you watch Chris Paul or James harden and literally your offense is reduced to them. Having a ball in the hands and trying to dance to defend as it relates. That's not gonna always. I understand that. But what I'm saying that you is what makes it worse for Carmelo. Is that Carmella would do if you're a smoker? Switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes. Andy six they just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected, but Joel is different. It's not an e cigarette. It's vapor product that actually satisfies plus Jewess simple to use. And there's no cigarette. Ash, no lingering odor as a smoker, you expect a certain nicotine experience. Right. Jill delivers give jewelry. Try check out. J U L dot com slash sports. Switch and be satisfied. Yes. 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