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SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"luis ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"You know, he'll have to live with that for the rest of his life. I mean, whether he likes it or not. But, you know, he's going to want to go in there and show that he's still the knockout artist that he was before he lost back to back fights to Tyson Fury. So it wasn't an easy decision, as you said. And he contemplated retirement for sure. But I think he's got a lot of pride and he's going to want to come back and show that he can, you know, it's not like he's not making a lot of money for this right now. He's not making anywhere close to what he made for the Tyson in the last two Tyson Fury fights, but he's making a lot of money. Look, I can't see him getting in there. And doing it half assed in any way. So I think we'll see whatever is the best of what Deontay Wilder has left will see that on October 15th. And then he'll go from there because if he beats the hellenes, you and I have discussed that he'll probably wind up fighting Andy ruiza for Reese beats Luis Ortiz, which he is favored to do on September 4th. That's a natural fight to put on Fox pay per view. It's an in-house PBC fight. It's interesting for sure. It's two former heavyweight champions. You know, Andy Ruiz has always shown a good chin and he'll cause a lot of problems stylistically for Deontay Wilder as well. So that's a good fight. And that's a pay per view fight for PBC, certainly much more pay per view worthy than wilder heinous. I think that's the path that he would take from there because he's not going to be in position to fight the winner of Joshua usyk or anything like that. And of course, there's no reason for him to fight Tyson Fury a fourth time. We've already seen this three times and he's been beaten decisively twice. So yeah, so I think that's the natural course of what will happen. You will see how he looks against Alanis, assuming he wins, which he's favored to do. And Ruiz wins. I think we see that fight maybe sometime in spring, summer, next year. Yeah, I think we both agree. It's good to have Deontay a while they're back in the mix. Makes heavyweight boxing more interesting. It makes boxing in general more interesting. I want to look back Keith. I went back to last weekend where we had Teófimo López make his return to the ring, make his debut at a 140 pounds. He stops Pedro campa in the 7th round of that fight. Not unsurprising that that was the result, Pedro campa. Nice record, not a lot of power, certainly a bit of an unknown at a 140 pounds and Lopez coming off a long layoff coming off a disappointing performance, making his debut with junior welterweight. I certainly worked out some of the kinks in his game and eventually got to stoppage. What did you make of taffy and was performance against campa? I was a little surprised that went into the 7th round, honestly, but Campo was fighting very cautiously and everything. So, you know, he hadn't fought in a long time, which is 140 pound debut. All's well that ends well. He stopped him, he didn't have any difficulty against Pedro campus. So what it's about now for your fema Lopez more than anything is who can you get at a 140 pounds to fight him? Because he's still a big name, you know, yes, he has this loss on his record now, but he's going to be very motivated to prove himself in a 140 pound division. Top rank has a lot of maybe not a level 140 pounders, but they certainly have a lot of 140 pounders.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"luis ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"A quiet moment, he'd be like, thank God, I don't have to figure out how to pay him because you can't keep putting Andy Ruiz and pay per view fights that are going to fail. I mean, for the obvious, so and look, if you're Andy Ruiz, you did beat Anthony Joshua a few years ago, so you feel like you deserve to be paid X the market might not necessarily dictate that. And if your triller we take our shots at triller and they deserve a lot of it, whether they like it or not for the most part. But if you're them, that's a get for them, right? If you get Andy Ruiz to fight on your platform, he's a former heavyweight champion of the world. I guess. I don't know how well it's going to do on their platform, but it's better than some of the fights that they've made. I was fascinated that it's going to be on a pay per view. I'm not sure what kind of numbers should be expected for Andy Ruiz against Tyrone spong. Well, listen, listen, we just saw Charles Martin and Luis Ortiz on pay per view. So I don't know. I guess anything's possible. As you can sell that two time title challenger versus former 5 minute heavyweight champion. And it was an entertaining. I'm not the fight. It was entertaining. I didn't know how Tyrone spong was before. I knew he was the guy that was supposed to I do sick and then he said something. I did that, I don't know. I don't know. I'd assumed a reason Louis Ortiz were headed for something, but that must have just been too pricey for anybody. And Andrew Ruiz Luis Ortiz on pay per view is not going to sell either. So I don't know what their what happened. Yeah, I don't know what you do with a guy with like Ruiz, maybe you just let him go fight on other platforms, which appears to be what's happening in this case..
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"luis ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Got to worry about well. You mentioned something. That is another part of this. I mean deontay. Wilder has accused tyson fury of every cheating maneuver under the sun. He is accused ice and fury of being the biggest cheater in boxing. History point blank period. We know all eyeballs will be on tyson fury. When his hands are being wrapped like a- all there will be a lot of scrutiny. Even does even if you think it's all bullshit. There'll be a lot of scrutiny on tyson fury. If the same thing happens it's not going to be good for deontay wilder. It's just point. Yeah let me ask you this baraka. Here's so i'm a boxing. Hall of fame voter. And i was thinking about this the other day if deontay wilder loses to tyson fury and retires after that. I don't think he's a hall of famer i don't. He's had a long run as heavyweight. Champion but fury said this on social media this week like who have you beaten like dominic brazil is not a quality win. You beat luis ortiz twice. So you have to quality wins over the same guy. I don't know how you look at while there's resume and say he's worth. He's worthy of being in the hall of fame. Am i crazy. I see you. You're not you're not crazy. I think that's a very good question. I think is valid points. I can only say this. The wilder was a champion before joshua he was a champion actually before fury. People don't realize that he won the title before fury beat klitschko. So he was. He's our long standing champion five legitimate years and one month. He was heavyweight champion of the world. And it's not his fault that literally. He fought whoever was available and was lobbying to get the anthony. Joshua if i you know in the beginning now no no no no no. That's that's years later chris. I'm talking about two thousand sixteen. Two thousand seventeen. He was the one that was being blackballed that ball. He wanted to fight. He wanted that fight and he couldn't get it after he got with theory. He's like man. I'm not trying to see joshua. I'm not saying us writer role that's just feeling like if you've been blackballing me all this time now. Don't wanna fight him. You know who else did that will spent keith. Thurman i'm not fighting you. Because what i wanted to fight you. You don't wanna fight some. Everybody else does that. Mean he's scared of keith thurman no he just wants to do them dirty now because he felt like he was done dirty and that's what the day was five years champion. You can't be mad at a guy that everybody available. But i'm not saying those guys that he thought should give into the hall of fame and that's that's going up all be said rock. I totally agree with everything is still doesn't get you a whole. I agree with you. i agree with you. I gotta cut you off bit. stop bernstein. Does.
106.1 FM WTKK
"luis ortiz" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK
"A Minnesota bail fund, backed by Vice President Kamala Harris, is under fire for helping to win the release of a man who's now suspected of murder. Last week, 47 year old George Howard was driving a white Volvo on Interstate 94 in Minneapolis when he got into a road rage incident with a man in a blue BMW. Both cars then pulled over and when the man in the BMW 38 year old Luis Ortiz got out. Police say Howard shot and killed Ortiz then sped away. It was caught on surveillance, and Howard was quickly arrested. But we should note two things one because of previous convictions. George Howard was banned from having a gun and to Howard might still have been in jail after being arrested for domestic assault in early August, But instead, he was released on bond posted by the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Fox's trace. Gallagher reports. The Freedom Fund helps to arrange bales for members of minority communities that it believes have been unfairly impacted by the state's criminal justice system. Police in Florida have arrested three people in charge them with stealing the identities of some of the people who died in the collapse of a condominium building earlier this year. Cyber grave robbers did move very quickly. After the collapse to grab what they could from deceased victims, while families and friends were an absolute emotional turmoil. Their motto could have been. Your loss is our gain. State's attorney Katherine Fernandez, Rundle says they are investigating other possible cases. At least 98 people died in the Surfside, Florida condominium collapse. Testimony began Wednesday in the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. She is charged with defrauding investors of millions by promoting a blood testing technology that prosecutors say she knew didn't work trial is expected to last about three months at the US Open tennis tournament. Novak Djokovic has beaten Matteo Bertini in the quarterfinals. He's just two wins away.
News Radio 920 AM
"luis ortiz" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM
"Harris, who is under fire for helping to win the release of a man who's now suspected of murder. Last week, 47 year old George Howard was driving a white Volvo on Interstate 94 in Minneapolis when he got into a road rage incident with a man in a blue BMW. Both cars then pulled over and when the man in the BMW 38 year old Luis Ortiz got out, Police say Howard shot and killed Ortiz then sped away. It was caught on surveillance, and Howard was quickly arrested. But we should note two things one because of previous convictions. George Howard was banned from having a gun and to Howard might still have been in jail after being arrested for domestic assault in early August, But instead, he was released on bond posted by the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Fox's trace. Gallagher reports. The Freedom Fund helps to arrange bail for members of minority communities that it believes have been unfairly impacted by the state's criminal justice system. Police in Florida have arrested three people in charge them with stealing the identities of some of the people who died in the collapse of a condominium building earlier this year. Cyber grave robbers did move very quickly. After the collapse to grab what they could from deceased victims, while families and friends were an absolute emotional turmoil. Their motto could have been. Your loss is our gain. State's attorney Katherine Fernandez, Rundle says they are investigating other possible cases. At least 98 people died in the Surfside, Florida condominium collapse. Testimony began Wednesday in the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. She's charged with defrauding investors of millions by promoting a blood testing technology that prosecutors say she knew didn't work. Trial is expected to last about three months at the US Open tennis tournament. Novak Djokovic has beaten Matteo Barrentine e in the quarterfinals. He's just two.
AM 1350 WEZS
"luis ortiz" Discussed on AM 1350 WEZS
"Kamala Harris, is under fire for helping to win the release of a man who's now suspected of murder. Last week, 47 year old George Howard was driving a white Volvo on Interstate 94 in Minneapolis when he got into a road rage incident with a man in a blue BMW. Both cars, then pulled over and when the man in the BMW 38 year old Luis Ortiz got out. Police say Howard shot and killed Ortiz then sped away. It was caught on surveillance, and Howard was quickly arrested, but we should note two things one because of previous convictions. George Howard was banned from having a gun and to Howard might still have been in jail after being arrested for domestic assault in early August, But instead, he was released on bond. Posted by the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Fox is trace Gallagher reports. The Freedom Fund helps to arrange bales for members of minority communities that it believes have been unfairly impacted by the state's criminal justice system. Police in Florida have arrested three people and charge them with stealing the identities of some of the people who died in the collapse of a condominium building earlier this year. Cyber grave robbers did move very quickly. After the collapse to grab what they could from deceased victims, while families and friends were an absolute emotional turmoil. Their motto could have been. Your loss is our gain. State's attorney Katherine Fernandez, Rundle says they are investigating other possible cases. At least 98 people died in the Surfside, Florida condominium collapse. Testimony began Wednesday in the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. She is charged with defrauding investors of millions by promoting a blood testing technology that prosecutors say she knew didn't work trial is expected to last about three months at the US Open tennis tournament. Novak Djokovic has beaten Matteo Bertini in the quarterfinals. Just two wins away from the calendar year Grand Slam..
Talk Radio 1190 KFXR
"luis ortiz" Discussed on Talk Radio 1190 KFXR
"Vice President Kamala Harris, is under fire for helping to win the release of a man who's now suspected of murder. Last week, 47 year old George Howard was driving a white Volvo on Interstate 94 in Minneapolis when he got into a road rage incident with the man in a blue BMW. Both cars then pulled over and when the man in the BMW 38 year old Luis Ortiz got out. Police say Howard shot and killed Ortiz then sped away. It was caught on surveillance, and Howard was quickly arrested. But we should note two things one because of previous convictions. George Howard was banned from having a gun and to Howard might still have been in jail after being arrested for domestic assault in early August, But instead, he was released on bond posted by the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Fox's trace. Gallagher reports. The Freedom Fund helps to arrange bales for members of minority communities that it believes have been unfairly impacted by the state's criminal justice system. Police in Florida have arrested three people in charge them with stealing the identities of some of the people who died in the collapse of the condominium building earlier this year, Cyber grave robbers did move very quickly. After the collapse to grab what they could from deceased victims, while families and friends were an absolute emotional turmoil. Their motto could have been. Your loss is our gain. State's attorney Katherine Fernandez, Rundle says they are investigating other possible cases. At least 98 people died in the Surfside, Florida condominium collapse. Testimony began Wednesday in the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. She's charged with defrauding investors of millions by promoting a blood testing technology that prosecutors say she knew didn't work. Trial is expected to last about three months at the US Open tennis tournament. Novak Djokovic has beaten Matteo Bertini in the quarterfinals..
KSFO-AM
"luis ortiz" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"Harris, is under fire for helping to win the release of a man who is now suspected of murder. Last week, 47 year old George Howard was driving a white Volvo on Interstate 94 in Minneapolis when he got into a road rage incident with a man in a blue BMW. Both cars then pulled over and when the man in the BMW 38 year old Luis Ortiz got out, Police say Howard shot and killed Ortiz then sped away. It was caught on surveillance, and Howard was quickly arrested. But we should note two things one because of previous convictions. George Howard was banned from having a gun and to Howard might still have been in jail after being arrested for domestic assault in early August, But instead, he was released on bond posted by the Minnesota Freedom Fund. Fox's trace. Gallagher reports. The Freedom Fund helps to arrange bales for members of minority communities that it believes have been unfairly impacted by the state's criminal justice system. Police in Florida have arrested three people in charge them with stealing the identities of some of the people who died in the collapse of the condominium building earlier this year, Cyber grave robbers did move very quickly. After the collapse to grab what they could from deceased victims, while families and friends were an absolute emotional turmoil. Their motto could have been. Your loss is our gain. State's attorney Katherine Fernandez, Rundle says they are investigating other possible cases. At least 98 people died in the Surfside, Florida condominium collapse. Testimony began Wednesday in the trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes. She is charged with defrauding investors of millions by promoting a blood testing technology that prosecutors say she knew didn't work trial is expected to last about three months at the US Open tennis tournament..
Tha Boxing Voice
"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Does brother he for a alfonso gomez from the contender. I mean he for love more. Do i mean he got names you understand. He got mad names. That's the difference right. Like people used to hate on while because he didn't have names got to those names. Cannella have mommy's then he beat trout and got the mayweather fight so like he at the time again at the time for like for like wild up until while fury fight. His greatest win was luis ortiz. We talked them up in before. Your fight with floyd. Your greatest win is the do. The biko undefeated not remains the verne. Yes they're all luis ortiz. This forty something that people like to so don't like people keep saying oh inexperienced he's wasn't and now and those off my top. If you go to canales reservoir guarantee there's way more names that i'm leaving out. Because he fought forty something people he actually fought. Now that i'm remember he actually beat miguel vazquez. Go look at that. Like don't know what the fuck they talk about. Oh oh he was inexperienced. Shut the fuck. Are you experienced. That mayweather obviously had fought the better opposition up until that point he's he's he'd haze. Hey see all right. I'll higher level. All i'm doing this. She would know all. I'm doing down lack of experience argument. That's not true. He four puppy vasquez. Like no man up. It's known as a real tough dude. You know but. I come for puppet bass quiz okay. That's i'm oh we just gonna keep taking his resume and say oh. I fought that guy and he's a name but this not experienced no. He went into that fight with experience. Here you know whether he had enough or not. That's like going to be a forever debate. But try to say that he he was less then. No one wanted to fight anyway. Just like he's calling out my man right now. He's calling them out right now. Any calling them out right now he calling out a kayla right now. He's the one asking for. Keller he was asking for floyd foy wasn't accent for her. Don't chase you. He wasn't calling for cannella. Yeah well you know at that. Time flew may whether it was the golden ticket the reverse roles on that one right and so it was condello. History goes like this. He said i'm not fighting on your under cords no more. You know what i'm saying. I'm not doing and they started doing split site. You know what i'm saying. He wanted to show. He was his own draw. He wanted what the king had but he can beat the king. You gotta learn to live with their shit like what the show if embiid you didn't win no he ain't give me a rematch bird. Did you ernie how many punches you land like. How many points did relent man. I was a little disappointed that fight. I'm not gonna lie. I mean i kind of you know. Included that factor. Which i know floyd still argues it like you know you should. You know should have said something about that. Show the or whatever but There were see. That's that's the reason why i as a fan would have liked to have seen that fight have a rematch in it. You know because there were still some things lingering over that fight that kind of like i'm not gonna say took away totally from from floyd's win but like we still like aright. He fought pack but like was pack. One hundred percent. You know all these little things. Like i know when he fought my daughter the first time he was like. Nah i gotta get this guy again. You know but. I didn't see the same sentiment pack. Yeah maybe because there's a more dangerous fight and he didn't want to revisit that you know but we'll just go onto the next one and say rod dog says bat shit crazy. Mr old school says ness is captain and dance isn't about bro. I don't know exactly which captured. But i think they might be talking about you saying that you know floyd's legacy is not in jeopardy of being surpassed by mr many paquito paquito but lake. Noisy data says this will always be greater than mayweather just like ali was greater than everyone. You also do outside. The ring is what counts to like ali. You know what you make a great point jeep. I know that does a lot of things that are not televised man. You know He does a lot of good things you know. Pack ios you know obviously a senator. He's running for president. He's a and i'm pretty sure. he has. Foundations and charitable. You know events and things that he does. But floyd does the same thing. And i i think floyd and later in his career where i learn more about who he is you know and and and and actually the actual blueprint as almost like a role. He had to play right. The bad guy wrote but now the guy's an awesome dude I don't know if he's done more than pack. Yeah i don't know how. You measure that out. But the example that you given that i leave greater than everyone. Yeah i mean at least to. This day is considered the greatest because of the things that he also did outside the ring. So he he he just didn't i don't know when we're gonna see a guy like ali you know because at the time that he lived in the political You know The political heir of things during that time it was just different. You know so. He stood for for for. Yeah he stood for what he believed that he was involved in so many. There's just so many things that were going on the catapulted ali into that greatness but the decisions he made in his career outside of the ring definitely definitely gave to that. You know that legend staff paco his greatness. Because it's like. Oh he's a commissioner senator fucking president. He's doing a lot. He's over forty and i get you know but the end of the day lost to me man. Let me get job coach. Your coach get any shape. I know you've seen the bag the coach just you know i got a man. I got l. jay walker. We need we need. We need him to take this five right now. L. j. is twelve amateur with two losses. He's way to experience for anybody else in boorda was i need you for that fight. Coach i think costa coach flop your ego but chan me and this is talking like what the hell is in that bag because you're moving that back like way too much like nothing you put that bag shit flies and that looks like a big ads bag so and then the south pole bro. The fucking hook comes over to jazz too easy on. He's got power. I told you that. Yeah he's got power. And i started looking at it more and i'm like dan. This is right kind. Fuck is your shape dude. So i mean. I don't know if you really look lena. Yesterday in his arms. I bet you use looking at yesterday. He had sweat arms a shining shane. When you got the little little little glistening any cuts come in a little better. I was like am i was. I was sizing you up. Chen our and you. Oh wait a minute. This guy like he could be a problem with the borders will ring so kudos you keep working and whenever you ready made wars is ready man. Money had this is money whether he's talking about money have forty four fight forty to fight. It was early. Who's who's got you've ever you gotta you gotta slowdown. I screen share. You never give me a per se. I will let me into these cash. Did you don't see hawk. Marilyn since two dollar saying there is no film of floyd getting off the mat. Shut out the hawk in maryland in via cash up at Gto dallas on gto. So we don't get that thirty percent cut and then we got another one from hall saying cannella beat cintron. That's another good name. You know what i'm saying. He they gave them experience both no. He didn't have like elite level expand but he got the developmental phase. That jimmy hawk with another one says floyd mayweather so much better than pack. Yo i know. I know hobbs new mexico. Austin the wooded. Do.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"luis ortiz" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"But i believe that you know as we're looking at this heavyweight landscape of now i we've got a joshua usa going on september twenty fifth followed by october ninth tyson fury. The wilder three. You know the rest of these heavyweights are sort of like in this round robin ville and you know like michael hunter is going to have to select someone else. Prompt with prominent name. I mean you know you can look at the zone fighters and maybe like someone. Someone joseph parker would be someone that he could take on. I mean i'd love to see him Potentially even though it would be against the pbc guy luis ortiz. Or even andy ruiz Those would be the type to fight that. I would like to see hunter end. Because let's be honest. He still needs after that after that. Fight with He needs to prove that he can beat the fighters of that caliber. And if he can do so then absolutely. I mean i think the guy is a young athletic Strong guy with a lot of personality and It'd be great. It'd be a great thing for him. He definitely has upside..
Tha Boxing Voice
"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"So they're going to make the fight In that fight with ortiz. I think that there are a number of scenarios that are win. Win scenarios of for a bunch of different people In canada combinations of these fights you talk about that level just below the elitist right now. eighth to say whether or not you like or dislike joshua fury or or wilder right. Now that's the elite of the heavyweight division. It's unclear whether ucla is in that particular mix but he's getting a fight with that mix Just below that. We've got dillion white. Joe joyce luis ortiz andy. Ruiz and i think that any combination of those guys fighting each other is going to be an entertaining fight And you know it's it. You can't really complain if any of those guys fight one another you know. What's the fight. Well i don't even wanna be negative man. In any way we got of knock ian and then Helena's re-met so i won't even interject them into the equation and say that you know one of those guys again. Ruiz ortiz because both of those guys one would be losing and the other would be just coming off a fighted. You know we would have to wait too long so you know. The obvious fight is ruis who his trainer eddie renault so announced his back in september which is creeping it's creep in. It's right there. We're we're we're i mean we're fifty five days away from september eighteenth which is the alleged can nello date so we need some announcements pretty soon but big gucci. Nick let me know via message or something unknown if you wanna talk if not seems like. We got no collars sunday. Everybody at church at the beach. That's where my girl wants to go. But i want to work. It's not it's not a night. it's not a nice day. I here in new york city. I raynal the rain or gloomy just of. I'll show you bro. That's kind of what it looks like. You know dat is right. I do not yankee stadium. Fans that coast to yankee stadium dude. Also you don't have a car. You must not be able to move that. That's why i ride bikes and take the subway and you look so healthy pedal around to On a on a bicycle you know what i mean but Not gloomy and humid not really a day to really go out to do anything We got little community pool. I here in the park near by. I go there sometimes with. Now's not a day for it. So here i am with the box. Invoice may yeah man and we'll lind's coming right back addis Would have fought out. Disown is the only real payday for heavyweight. I know money isn't everything. But i wouldn't turn down millions to joshua yet. I mean the thing is that we don't know how much he was given. And then what split the paper views. It did due to seventy five. Have you know and we can't even divide those numbers we can't even. I mean obviously we can tell you to seventy five. I think is like what i mean. Just do it. The issue is we don't know what's wow this mandatory. We didn't know what he got paid. Officially but two hundred seventy five thousand ain't bad if you a tang davis because you ain't getting over five mill but you know eighty times. Two hundred. seventy five is twenty two mil you divide that by the two. So they made eleven million on. I don't know i. Obviously they ain't give lewis his his seven. Aj was offering you know. So i don't know. I don't know what i mean. There's also sponsorships endorsements ticket sales concessions all that greatness the factor in to the overall Revenue of a fight. But i don't know man you're right. Seven million is a hard pill to swallow. If you don't take that money but man catch me right here at seven. Pm eastern. but don't forget rinkside reporter. Joe labib eric. Lauda they go on at six p m eastern on youtube dot com forward slash the rinkside reporter right after they're done at seven. We are live at seven for our sunday. Show where we review everything over the weekend any sexy headlines and we serve up that crow for anybody the might pick carlos them My got a call your free to join us seven. If you wanna get to this call it. Before you give out your. Let's get to the call abro info aaron. What up what an. What am i He makes you call in now. I cannot every time you give me call them. But i'm not going to come adam. I came out of a couple of days ago. And it'd be as opinion and that's what it is but Yeah i think this is a great i. You know. I still don't know how joyce the but the second mandatory i mean. The man has thirteen price on his resume. There's no reason why he'd be the mandatory and espn wrote an article Saying that maybe eight they would have to drop the wbo bell. Did he beats. Music will be wants to go in a fight with wilder theory. So i know it's at least a year that wbz mandatory would have to be filled after age eighty. It's the bottom line is ever if we wanna see the undisputed against failure wilder that means joyce no-one fight ortiz has no one to fight. I think they despite its good fight And i think we're going to the uk and take that fight. And i think it's a win win for both fighters and happens after joyce. Confide deleon why. I don't see how taking that already white coming to. That was the wbz eliminator and it was for the wb. Oh intercontinental some witch rocket that commute. Take her yeah. But it's not about. It's not about her. What if the wbz orders. The fight with dillian dillion deny doesn't can't match. You can't negotiate with frank. Warren who joyce's wit is persecuted. Tom daddy did tom to go. I mean it's possible. And i wanna i wanna be mad at. It's possible i mean again. I think the uk it's two leagues. You know the uk is kept away from ortiz. I mean all. Look i mean. They're talking about parker to or two. I mean i could see parker joyce. Yeah i mean. That's yeah that's an. But i'm saying i would say i parker joyce i've seen white against joyce but i would rather see parker against ortiz or joining not two zero zora choice. I mean i'm sort of zora's more confident. Now that he's seen tackle and than on them. Damn shots it should always done. I mean i don't have to call the gatekeeper. Because everyone on your gate so look. I mean yeah maybe zora but come on the or white ortiz would be against joyous thirty good fights whatever happens happens either way. I'm happy that michael recall brother. If you wanna call in you know to do so one to five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time voice your opinion right here on the.
Tha Boxing Voice
"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"When you talk about and what about marion jones again. What you're talking individuals ample what what about major league baseball. You still own storm. Listen you're still giving individual examples like no one tops. Russia their team pop. That means the government in his own board. The coaches on like we need you to be. We need our country dominant. Everybody jump on this shit. Come on bro. i can see you know. Obviously jose can and mark maguire russians. You know again individuals. Would you got me on. I look all series. As i understand what you're saying you're saying there's a difference between kind of state sponsored cheating and the individual cheating that kinda takes place a repeat what i said because you took your headphones off. You're saying there's a difference between kind of state sponsored sheeting ledge of taking place in russia and the individual cheating in the united states. But you also gotta remember that sports in the united states is set. Up as a do-or-die everyone's out for themselves individual endeavor you don't have amateur athletes pretty much You know where. It's their fulltime job to represent the united states in sports. You know so. It's a little bit different. But all i'm saying is that the united states eight. You know allergic to cheat and its like does ally that cheating in the united states. You know that goes into sports. It goes into politics. It goes into corporate america You know a goes into what i do like i got my little public teachers shared onto this today. And you know Recently in the news year new york you know there was principals accused of like What was it like doctoring. Like state test results and stuff and like losing their jobs and shit over it so cheating is cheating row. All i'm saying is that timmy. Luis ortiz looks like a forty two year old Your really looked at much older than that. But if i'm wrong i'm wrong now i mean. Look if we're going off. Looks i don't think he looks as old as people make him out to be. I been in jim woodham. I've i've stood next to him. I've watched them work. You know what i mean like. I don't think he looks or moves or acts age or rather the age he's perceived to be but that that's the thing like will your boy. Joel joys get credit or will you know the same people that diminish luis ortiz now and say who has he be and he's only lost two wilder You know will they give joe joystick credit. I think that a reasonable objective observers of the sport. We'll give him credit if he puts on a impact. Emphatic performance like where he's utterly dominated of them because other than wilder and let's be honest while it wasn't really dominant until he got the ko. I mean both times. It were dominating cao's but the overall performance from beginning to end wasn't necessarily dominating i would say So if you could come out. Joe joyce and just get that hammerfest jab going juggernaut style. You know marvel super villain style and just walk them down and eat punches like hugely at an just be kind of overwhelm luis ortiz. And get the ko. I i think that he should get some credit for that. You know. I think he should get as much credit as anyone could get for beating luis ortiz at this stage There are other people. I think that would be more natural opponents. Ah for him. I think deleon white would be a great opponent because to me the third-place slot amongst british heavyweight disputable. You know And i think that that would be a great opportunity to be next man up. You know. Yeah i would love this. I really love this fight. But what about my theory. That our won't do it because he'll just advise lewis like you can find your joys but i'm trying to set you up with andy ruiz because they would rather cash out a common opponent with wilder to their first mexican former heavyweight champion That was you know unified so they can further build that wilder by because if wilder and ruis fight without a title will watch it the way we watched joe joyce tackle so why not cash them out to ortiz. Excuse me ruis ruiz. Ortiz has been rumored for a while. Now ruis makes sense The thing with you guys will probably remember that. He was actually signed the match room before and was kind of shelved and people thought that they just acquired them and show them that. Keep them away from aj. I dunno if that's true or not. I'll never know if that's true or not but luis. Ortiz is not really been that active in really got a lot of shots other than the wilder fights switch. We're good shots that he didn't capitalize are So if you're him you gotta think of do i stick with pbc in hope that they put me in as the b side. Because that's what it would be against you know may maybe a a ruis or even maybe account nakae if he gets past to laney's Or do you try to test the waters over there with with queensberry and you know. See what to do against job joyce ida. I think you're using the wrong words When interpreting or assuming ortiz would do. I don't think he would use the word may be. I think he would say to himself. Dan do i take the joe. Joyce fight or do i sit and way outta give me you know ruis or someone. Because i think he's sure that he's going to get something from them No one's been able to move luis ortiz. Like i'll hayman remember. He was a fighter that was disgruntled with golden boy tested positive in the latif coyote fight with golden boy and then was cast away Came back got fights with al then match sign them for three fight deal to keep them away from anthony joshua he popped again claimed blood pressure who took him back with open arms out again. Rebuilt them gave him the tune-ups he needed plus the fight with wild..
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"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"I reached out to sam jones. And i was trying to get him on the show. I gotta check my messages in casey answered but last i checked he didn't let me check my what's at Because yemen. I wanted to. I wanted to get him on here. He hasn't checked it man. Let me be direct. Send them a voice message. And and i'll provide them all the link of edge But once again and hit that thumbs up man don't let these negative people win we. We must keep this. Show the number one box in podcast in the world number-one on i tunes More five star reviews than any contemporary. Only you can keep us there by continuing drop us. A five star review continuing tell the world how consistent we are we may not be the best but we definitely consistent amongst the rest right. And we're here. We're here you know we. You may not like what we say. We're here to debate what we say at the very lease. And you can debate whatever's on your mind express your frustrations what do you think about this matchup. Is this the perfect fight for joel joyce Is this an opportunity for luis ortiz. To get back in the mix. I mean think about what happens to the career luis ortiz. If he can get a win over joe joyce. It's like a complete revision of his. Aides provide all over again. He's back you know he's entitled contention because you know louis ortiz He's he's i mean. Well well well well joel. Joyce's is already in the position for a title shot right so you know if ortiz can be joyce then that really sets him up it lines him up man but Question is will will sam jones. Really take this fight That's what we need to see. And that's why. I was trying to get him on the show But i'm going to send him the live link Vc's what we're talking about. He'll jump on. Yes sir but we are talking. Joe joyce not necessarily as win over tax them but obviously to get here. We had to get through them and now sam jones his manager is say no problem to the joe joyce luis ortiz fight. Which i think is a great heavyweight fight. That you know should happen. Should happen politics aside. And i don't know that there are any politics. I mean bt or rather. Should i say frank. Warren who joyce may be with I'm pretty sure he signed to warren. When he got the dubois fight They do business with. Pbc they've done the wild pay per view They do business with top rank So you know that's not. I don't think this is a hard fight to make. And if you're luis ortiz you know you're running out of options on. Pbc they can give you or two ruis and then it's a common opponent wilder so i can see why luis ortiz may be valuable to pbc at this time. Maybe they're looking at it like hell. No we cash in him out against. Nb ruis we're not giving them to you you know that could be a possibility remember. They got any res over there and they got wild. They need to feed those two animals but amilcar what what is going on nestor. My brother happy sunday. Happy sunday man. That's my church is in session. The church of boxing man. You know so I saw the topic. It's very intriguing. match up You know we would like to see jojoy sitting there against somebody of note because it's going to be a minute before he's in there with fury or wilder or joshua or aj because you know aj dozen such a fight unless there's a mandatory rematch up in that contract so If he beats sick he's going to be hopefully taking on the winner. Wilder against fury. That fight will probably have a mandatory a rematch in it and then if he loses to ucla. Well he's going to get some get back against music a rematch. So rather than just have joe joyce die on the vine because he is up there. H you know Might as well start throwing some names out there to get him back in the ring pretty soon known as yeah i mean how short over whether or not sure but how. What's the probability of this happening. You know you'd think this is just good. Pr on sam jones's part. Obviously we luis ortiz. Hate him a love them. We want to see him. In the ring he produces decent fights on the high level Or am i. Lying is i I've never had an issue with with luis ortiz You know he did obviously have that. Alleged p. e. d. u. But i felt like the justification for his use of that drug was pretty. I would say believable while it was it was the blood pressure. Excuse i mean he's got. He's got high blood pressure. You know for those of you who are of african descent like me and my brother s you know that you know it does kinda run high sometimes in our families You know. I have That particular issue in my family. I don't have it yet. You know touch wood but A lot of people. Do you have a caribbean background. African american background. It's pretty common for high blood pressure to run in your family Not necessarily this young. You know in your late thirties early forties. But i'm not gonna say it's not somewhat believable that the brother has high blood pressure. And you know like caribbean food's pretty salty pretty salty. I would call it full of flavor flavor. There you go so You know he's got to watch that. You got to watch those seasonings. 'cause they'll seasonings. I n salt typically e clean. Maybe go to a plant based diet like myself. I could help them out with that if he's if he's interested but i'm also not one of these. People that subscribes at a whole luis. Ortiz is like fifty year old nonsense. I'm just going to keep it real like you had a guy call in and say i'm always trying to make stuff. Racial will not usually. Nfl funny from who just flippantly uses the n. word against my people regularly but that grass I mean pretty much what you're saying when you're talking about luis ortiz. Not being forty two and to me. He looks like a forty two year. Old black man like they're you know forty two zero brothers. I see that. Look around kind of like luis. Ortiz does but what you're essentially saying is that you know these caribbean countries. You know they. They don't really know how to record. Ki- like you can't really believe A birth certificate from cuba or a passport from cuba. And i'm just not gonna. i'm not gonna. I'm this not going to subscribe to that. I'm sorry well. I mean that's that's pretty common. You know they defect. So it's like you know you get the tell america whatever the hell you want like you don't come with defect. What papers and and i get that. But at the same time he was an amateur. You know what i mean. He was entering into four for a country that loves gold medals in loves to be dominant. So yeah i mean. Come on bro. You ain't play little league baseball and see some fucking big as kids. You know how these coaches are. People want to win. Life is about winning and some people as you see ano- sport as you know for some people do anything to win some used to win. You know what. I mean agree with what you're saying. But what country cheats more than the united states. Russia know what they can the united states. I mean do you not remember lance armstrong in a usps cycling team guiding..
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"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"I do want andy. It's it is hard for me to make a decision on who. I want andy to pit because again. I don't want how and pbc to continue to do all the heavy lifting and in being the ones to find. Luis ortiz defy like this plenty of other heavyweights in the world. Why isn't dillion white fighting. Luis ortiz. why. Isn't you know a joseph parker colon out of luis ortiz. You know an oscar redis you know. Why does it have to be an andy. So i am in a bit of iraq and a hard place now. I do understand. This is in house. Luis ortiz. andy. Ruiz its in house but i think that the last time andy was offered to dylan white fight. It was a five million dollar offer. And we seem to andy ruiz pay per view which was promoted by pbc. I don't know could that have been done better. If it's dillion away. And andy ruis and it's on disown. Does it get a better promotion. Does he get some fireworks. Are the wind ring walks. Better do they get to have a better. You know someone to walk them out. That's a little popular. I don't know what what will be the differences. Between andy ruiz's deleon white promoted by zone matchroom versus luis ortiz. And andy ruis. Pbc promoted fight. Which will be the bigger fight which will do more or wonders for aindi ruis fantastic news man friendy though i mean you know very rare to be in this sort of situation where bo for your options are are fan friendly options that the fans will both be content. I think if you fight dillion. I mean a lot of people were happy. If you fight lewis. A lot of people are happy. I i just don't see the wrong in either choice. I do say it is difficult for me to make a choice for many many reasons but someone in a chat had a very good thought. And i will make a poll. Who.
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"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"You mad. Got more wins than luis ortiz. How on the u k dick yet is mad black and white who the fuck tease be kristin who bryant like show to your mad that i'm telling the truth high you just had to do try to call in and make areola great and all they realized done is is lose or draw of being a tight fight like mayo a stop. Knock off me anyway. Super chat for machine gun. He says. I think we can agree. That white needs his shot. See i guess you only. Uk nuts too now anybody can see black and white and seeded. White has four more top ten opponents than most american heavyweights. He's beat more former world champion than most american heavyweights and he is an exciting fights. His vulnerability like amir khan translates to exciting. I don't do the whole. Oh america this. I mean my ryan for my american here but just because you from america will make you superior. This is who you and delia. white. Be joseph fargo. Who happened to be andy ruis. So we're going to discredit dealing for losing their anthony. Joshua who happened to be andy rees. We got to be on the same page. Like you know this is all comparable. That's a good fight. man. I want that fight. I want that fight. I know everybody's talking undisputed but what if aj does the same bullcrap again and doesn't give us undisputed versus wilder. I definitely want wild at a silence. Dilling white rodney seven over the supachai says if you fight ortiz and fury five times both top five each turn laughing..
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"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"Ally. I'm out to get to that. Remember when dylan white chose to fight oscar rivas. He chose the oscar rivas because oscar. Ribas beat brian jenkins he lost every round and then he got a lucky twelve round knockout number when ortiz that same brian jenkins and then basically beat them every round. Knock them out in the seven. I'm why did she's like was he is earlier. That's actually that's actually luis ortiz. As big as win. Win and brian jennings sad of you to bring that up. Do you know that is that is the point you saying. He's a fourth king. He got nineteen amateur fights and his biggest winners. What mike perez. Maybe check this out though. Check this out. i'm he chose. The he chose to fight oscar ribas. Because brian gen undefeated. He says he said undies against judge was good but when ortiz beat brian jenkins. Y'all discredited it. So what's good for one is good for the other. You lie you lie. And when ortiz. Be brian jennings. It was fucking ten years ago. Nobody discredited you lying you making shit up that she was on. Hbo thirty years ago. And you still talking about that shit. Call him a fourth king you tripping and guess what dilly dilly white beat robert helena's hellas away. What's up lennie was talking about that you pay tribute dog. 'cause you spit in lies man. You never like dillion white out his spit in lives. That's not true. What you're saying fucking i'm have to pull up. Luis ortiz fucking resume. Because you just making shit up right. Now he fall. Brian jennings one hundred years ago man. Fuck as you talk them out. That's his biggest win. How is he a king who else he be. Kinks would be dave allen. Alexander florez bray for brian jennings in two thousand fifteen a seven years.
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"luis ortiz" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice
"But i think even even dante was smart enough to find some marketing in these opportunities to get a guy lewin. His guys a big fight. You know you still getting survey. Berg remains to earn and don't eat. That was trevor brian. Brian belt this on a do. Wb regula so you know Yeah i just hope that. The harry right. Let me double check. I think he might have the into room Bryant and someone else's irregular think might move was the regular. Let me double check because you know after talking to give birth. Oh yeah regular. That's crazy because bryant has never had a mandatory. The the regular is the one that's gets all the mandatory the super champion like the franchise champion doesn't do mandatory so i've never heard of trevor bryant in a doubly be wnba mandatory ever ever. He's been there for like the last four years and never right now six number one so they could fight trevor bryant for that. Wb regular and they knock lewis. Will tease number two. Andy ruis number. Three and andy might be getting. They might throw andy at that. Do trevor so that he could get the regular. 'cause then right away you know eddie. Her would do some sort of fake mandatory. They always demand because remember when luis ortiz because they do call the mandatory. Excuse me every now. And then they do. Call the mandatory remember. Louis was the mandatory but then he like issues and matchroom them. Let them go so the. Wb hilarious man but look wild is number five. I don't dinner who's fighting. Oh he just lose daniel what I didn't even get to see that fight. How was that second round knockout in and let me tell you something daniel. He didn't look tentative at all. I like the way he looked. He even kept guard down a little bit he eat. You know blocked what. He wasn't concerned about taking punches. If because he's under new trainers the mcguigan or or booth us under. He's under a shame. Shame mcgregor barry son or something. Yeah i mean it was only two rounds he will. He looked pretty good. You know I think he looked confident. He didn't look like he was he was. He looked more confident than and you did. And i think that's what i was trying to measure it by. He looked more confident. Andy he looked like he was he was coming forward. He wanted to mix it up and he was trying to set up that power shot he came out trying to beat the would he be different. Day wa or dynamite dame dubois and he's back to that dynamite. You know that. That dubois. If i was a elimination bout so he might be getting shot at bryant pretty soon and if anybody can do business with don king is definitely going to be eddie hearn and earn head to go. The heard listen. It's open up the phone lines. Look like fabio world still in sparring or something fun like that. So in the meantime. I wanna go ahead and take some phone calls. You want to call it and give us your opinion on Whatever box topic you've been hearing speak about do so one four to five five six nine fifty to forty one press one one time to voice your opinion right here on. The voice of the people hotline. Don't forget you can also add mr gibbs on skype to part of the conversation and you still have an opportunity to drop a question. Four fabio wardley before he jumps on right now. I want to go to the super chats real quick before we go out to the phone lines. We got Andrei dakota says baba's cheap plain and simple. What are we going to understand. That james prince can only do so much for his clients. He can definitely take his clients away from them. And bob knows the james's bought people out their contract before. So you know our jones aka guy though. I believe right. So as i remember. Ej was which accord asking really top rank. Laughing out loud movie. yes man. I don't remember that but you know It's it's so you know people used to call me a pbc fan boy for years. Because i've seen the freedom that al gave his fighters and and i think it comes because how was in the music business and he knew the artists were also locked into contracts and and music deals and shit. And i think he came into this business trying to do things differently and we see now that his way is the better way we see. Now that he gets it done he gets done. Don't get me wrong at guar. Ahern's gets it done as well. But you know eddie to receive any hate. Eddie has always been congratulated for the things that he's done whereas you know i'll get shamed and and you know talked about in type of things A low key dude from ohio. And he's you know secretly running his industry with a very basic business principle. Is that if i do good business i'll attract more business. I don't know about all the good. I mean Yeah good business. Yes but some of this matchmaking. They got their own diet going on as well. Pb selfish boxing in of itself. I mean we talked about it the other day. You do certain things to build fighters you do. Certain things to build five is in we. Pbc is by no means northfield to your nonsense. No by no means perfect me. No entity is perfect but the truth is that some are better than others. Mma is politics the lesser of two evils. You to vote for one guy in the other guy but you realize they're both politicians in this sport. You got bob you got margot in you have al through most part of me. I'm not even count oscar. But you know what i'm saying you have. What's and you pick the best of the worst of the worst of best. Yeah i mean. Listen there's no justification for fights like You know whatever's going on on june nineteenth. They drop into ball. Look i guess what they're doing with. Jamal is. Bob is dealing with chicago but the differences. That at least jamal knows that he can. He can hold out because our will get him. That fight al has proven that anybody wants to hate on how cool but wilder desperately needed a name on his resume. He got him. Luis ortiz. And tyson fury laura wanted canelo. He got him. Trout wanted canelo. He got him daniel. Jake's wanted canelo then you jacobs he got him you know. Caleb will probably get him. You know Out has gotten his fight as the now you know he didn't get paul williams mayweather but remember. Paul had the accident he did get pole. Cannella like there's gonna be some diet. But he's getting his fighters that are not extremely popular not television friendly dino jakup's laura trout those dudes are not gennady. Lufkin they do not tell the network. Hey i bring excitement. Those dudes were opponents and he was able to get his opponents a big fight. You know cannella in need to fight trout. He was waiting for koto to beat trout. He could've swerved that fight. That's how did a good enough deal for cannella. The tape and unified at belt. Laura definitely need to get that kinetico fight. How did that so you know. Let's let's let's remember that. There is no list the fighters that we can go down and be like well. Bob got so and so that fight like he don't really do cross promotion phase. He don't really look at what the new headline is. I mean. you've seen it. You wanna pre pro. Now what the fuck cop. And just say the worst her words. I read my life. I'm paraphrasing but. I'm pretty sure it was worth for where he said if bob bob allows joe smith to fight daniel jacobs. Joe smith will make the first multimillion dollar pay day of his life if he allows worked for me. How you going to allow me to do something. And this is what i'm saying. Show me the history of fighters. Like i just gave you the bob got them the big fight on another platform. The bob sent them over to enough. Because that's what that's what. That's what i did here. You go cannella. And golden boy Us laura yawkey us trout eddie yuka used. You could use daniel jacobs with zone cannella here. You go jesse vargas you go go..
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Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury in 2020 Rematch Fight
"And Tyson fury could have a potential rematch. Now, Deontay wilder is having a rematch with Lewis King Kong or TS here in September. Mike, you're the big boxing aficionado. I, I was stunned that Deontay wilder did what he did to Luis Ortiz. Well, I think is a very good boxer. So I like the fact that those are fighting again, but are you interested in wilder fury rematch, which I thought was a very close. I definitely am interested because I also gre- that it was a close fight. And I think it's, it's watchable you like it has you intrigued because it was. Closed. So let me ask you a question. What happened with Anthony Joshua? Who is he? He's fighting some no name guy like what happened there, man. I'm trying to see I believed that his opponent was hurt in, then this guy is a standing standing, and it's pretty much literally a standing guy any Joshua's, the Steve Gutenberg of boxing. It's like why did he become Tom Hanks? Like he could've right. He's right there. He could have been a huge movie star, and he did it who's ever managing Anthony, Joshua's careers during the horrible job, get them out there to be a huge star this while they're you spend two seconds or that dude's a super slow, he's trying to Anthony, Josh is making a lot of money, just in England, a lot of money in the police academy movies, but he's become a star even notice fight is a dud. But this is I fight in the US in New York. So he's trying. I'm with I'm with you, though. Deontay wilder is entertaining and must see television. So sign me up for whatever that dude does.