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Ask Gwladys (Trailer)
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People put in hotels for refuge during the pandemic are now being evicted
"Five things is brought to you by pay. Calm to be better prepped. For the next big change in business be proactive now. With pay calm in one software employees can easily enter an update their hr and payroll data allowing hr to be more strategic. Check it out at pay. Com dot com. Good morning. i'm clear thornton and this is five things. it's sunday. december twentieth episodes are special. Or giving you more from in depth stories. you may have already heard for nearly a year cities across the. Us have been housing homeless people in motels and hotels. It's paid for with money from the cares. Act to keep them safe. During the pandemic the federal government said that money from the cares act has to be used by december thirty first with the deadline approaching city officials are considering putting homeless people back on the streets or in crowded shelters affordable. Housing experts argue. The hotel shelter programs were merely a quick fix and the emergency money should have gone toward more permanent. Housing solutions. shamsuddin has experienced homelessness off and on since he was ten years old. He's now fifty one in mid march. He tested positive for covid. Nineteen he almost died in the hospital so with covy when that hit the virus had basically spreading throughout the shelter because different from the average person when they said quarantine people can find we. Because we're all in this time. Get seven so we're all around each other. There's no barriers. There's no wall we've never had a hand sanitizer. We didn't have soap into dispenses. So it was like the basic things that they said that you needed to protect yourself. We didn't have those things. Unfortunately i ended up catching covert. A barely could talk an kept china. Ask the nurse and my die in dying and and they was like we can't tell you that and then this one nurse reached out to me and she grabbed my hand you know. She just embraced. My hand and i was like. Oh my gosh. She started comfortably while dining. Nah i said this caveat wind barron got out of the hospital city officials said he could go to a hotel. It would be paid for by the cares act around that time. He also started taking steps to improve his mental health. Given option. do you want to go to the hotel. Do you want to stay in the congregation shelter. And of course. I said to send me to the whole tell. The other thing that i wanted to do was get help with mental illness. And then i want us to clare tail drinking which had gotten exasperated just from being in experiencing homelessness before debate in witnessed how people dealing with homelessness used drugs as a way to cope for life. Attornal moved around a lot. Raise ma ma son as a single parent raising minimum family shelter system work to make sure that he has some stability at the same time myself. End up struggling. I was living in alanna at one point and came up here to the city. Unfortunately things that go the way that i wanted to go put me in a state of depression and eventually i realized you know what maybe i need to get some some some help for that and some stability so i ended up going into the shelter system seeking both quite some time. I was on on an shelter. Awards album which is congregate shelter. It was like just taking a bus to get to wards alex. You would have to just drink just to drown out all the craziness that was just on the bus ride as so you see a lot of people pulling out there. Their drink their drug of choice. Just prepare themselves to walk into the congregate shelter with me. It was i found more security and more safety and confident just being in the streets as crazy as that might sound. So flash forward to into baron began his stay at the lucerne hotel on the upper west side in july. His mental health improved and he cut back on drinking and he didn't stop there. That's where basically my advocacy started. Because i felt like look. I don't want to be in an environment where people would just openly using drugs and and doing different tanks. there was a group of ladies that came with their children to the loose are and they started painting. Chalk on a floor with messages saying welcome. We love you. We welcome you to the neighborhood. You deserve to be here. you know. Every person deserves a home. So i reached out to them and immediately they met with me and within twenty minutes of a conversation with one of their representatives. They promised to put on site services. So we had the harm reduction calm and then open hearts come and bring a meat and fitness class and all these other services to the lucerne which is unique because none of the whole charles have that had issues but with literally change the fabric. That's why we've been sitting here today. The day before thanksgiving to bear in in the other men living at the lucerne told they would have to vacate the hotel. The appellate division of the new york state supreme court made a last-minute reversal a few weeks later and granted the men and interim stay. i'm engaging elected officials. I'm engaging faith leaders. i'm engaging people that are actively involved in these days to up with the best ideas to be able to create better communities for people that experiencing homelessness. I want to go from being homeless to the housing hero. I want to evolve into a person that is able to provide housing for people. People say yo you really a spending yourself as an advocate and you're still homeless. You're still going through it. Well if i don't do do it. This is not the paphos chose. This is not the journey that i want it but at this point in the only way things will ever change that we stand up Baron and the other men at the lucerne don't know exactly how long they'll be able to stay for this time You can find linked the full story by usa. Today's housing and social services reporter romina In the episode notes there you can watch an eight minute video. Featuring to barren and other housing advocates in new york the video includes some additional footage. Not included in this podcast. If you liked the show. Go to apple podcasts. And write us review. Let us know what your favorite part of this episode was and you can follow us on twitter. Where at say today. Podcast taylor wilson will be back tomorrow morning with five things you need to know for monday. Thanks for listening. I'm claire thornton. Next sunday until then keep up with me on twitter at clare. Underscore t. h. r. n. 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QD 12: Best of Switzerland
"Hello Travel Nerd and welcome to the extra packet peanuts. The show that teaches you how to travel more while spending less and yes almost everyone is spending less right now on travel so it has been nice for our budget. That's true. Yeah my joining me. Today is the person who was definitely the better looking host of Lights Camera Switzerland a TV. Show that her. I got to film and aired on cable. Tv in the US and Canada. My wife and concentrate companion yes. That's very generous of you. Think you for the Nice shout out. We Love Switzerland that this is one of the most beautiful countries that we've seen it so stunning that it seems. I mean we when we first went to Switzerland travel win and he lived there and I went to visit him for a week or two. And we were up in maybe Brindell gigawatt Muren's from Harry Potter Grundel. Walled is also near there. But you're right and we took a picture of us like drinking. Glass of wine with the Sun was going down and I put it up on facebook because this was before instagram and our friends were like. Is this a real picture? You look like you're sitting in front of a fake backdrop. It is just beautiful. Yeah we have had some amazing experiences Switzerland as heather mentioned. And we're talking about Switzerland today in case you couldn't guess that during our quarantine. Diaries are shorter. Form unedited off the cuff version of our podcast. Which you can watch on TV. So if you listened podcast you can go watch on TV. If you WANNA see us in person were sitting outside and our backyard right now or obviously you can listen to it on our podcast feed so we had some really good memories in Switzerland. Because we've spent a lot of time there so back in twenty twenty ten two thousand nine. I lived there for four months in Los on so right up the right. The lake from Geneva so in the French speaking part of Switzerland. If you've never been to Switzerland there are four official languages but there are three kind of free speaking parts. You have the French speaking. The German speaking part in the Italian speaking part and so I was living in the French speaking part for four months. Heather got to visit me a little bit. They obviously I had a ton of experience guys living there for four months and then we also have gone back and we filmed a TV show over ten days. A one hour TV special called Lights Camera Switzerland there and that was super crazy and very hectic and we had about thirty days worth of activities jammed in to ten days. So we have. This is going to be very hard for me to pick out the best of stuff because it was two very different experience when I lived there you experienced stuff is kind of becoming like a local because I was working there and all that too I was eleven years ago. It was eleven years ago but then when we went from the TV show. It was just go. Go go go go go go. We were doing so much and that was five years ago. Five years almost completely opposite type of experiences. But we're going to do it anyway. We're GONNA try so here. We go. We're going to give you our best of Switzerland. Heather's the cards here and we're each going to answer this one quite not one question more each going to answer these questions individually first one is the best activity and I know mine straightaway. Gosh go ahead. I done so much there. There's so much I mean you could talk about hiking. Obviously that's incredible but because I'm more into leisure activities. My favorite thing is taking the boats on the lakes and we've done them on multiple lakes but my favorite one is to do it on Lake Geneva they have like the Swiss boats are so beautiful. They're so clean there on time. Of course they're very structured there and we've had both experiences on these boats so when we were there when I was working there as an intern we did just the normal passes but then when we went and we still on the TV show we had the VIP passes where you could get access to the upper decks. And I mean both experiences were incredible and I just think sitting there relaxing watching the landscape go by on a boat is just magical so I lived on Lake Geneva and Man. This is probably gonNA come up as my best memory. So it's hard to split memory from activity by lived on Lake Geneva. We took that boat. Ride all the way around. You know you could go to every on in France and where the waters from you know. So you're you go across the river to lake from France We did it on a few other lakes as well like we did it on Lake Lucerne and took the boats there when we were back from for the new show so the lakes off. I'm Geneva we win to Montreal. We saw the Chateau de she own. Which Oh my gosh. What a beautiful castle that is. We went both times. We were you it multiple times about twice the first time when you were interning there then the second time when we do the TV show there and this was after we were done filming so we were much more relaxing and we win and we was toward the castle again and then we swam right there next to the castle which we didn't do the first time. Yeah like I did once. But I didn't the first time. And it's pretty surreal to be in that type of atmosphere and then you just jump in the lake and getting your swimsuit and stare at this gorgeous medieval castle. So I'm GonNa I think I'm going to save it for favorite memory so I'm GonNa cop out because my my favorite activity is is the lakes as well. But I'm going to save that for from memory. 'cause I've got some specific about that. So that gives me a little bit of an option here for best activity and I think the best activity is for me was and I feel so bad saying because heather didn't get to do and she wanted to the first time we lived in Switzerland and it was too windy and I was scared to do it and then the second time only one of US could do it and I was chosen to do it and that is paragliding. Heard about that yeah. We'll take your back and go so I got to paraglider in in interlocken The the first time we were there we booked a flight for me to do it and then they cancelled it because of the weather. Yes so just. It seems like I don't like height and I thought I would be crazy scared and I loved it going with a guide. Obviously you're not up there by yourself. And it was absolutely magical to just be floating above the most majestic landscape it. You can picture the mountains and the lakes and all that So if you get a chance paragliding especially there is second to none. It's stunning. I mean you know how stunning landscape is when you're hiking through walking through but then to be up above it who there is not much stuff that is better than that so paragliding magical and you didn't do it in Interlocken. You actually did it right off. The some mountaineer Mierlo. Yeah right we're going to do it in interlocken first and then I did it in. Lucerne over Lake Lucerne in that area and interlocking is inbetween to lake so there are lakes. They're interlocking and that's sending place as well. I mean oh my goodness this is hard. Yeah it's going to be hard. We're GONNA TRY NOT TO COP OUT HERE WE'RE GONNA try to give you very specific things but there are a lot. There can be a lot of answers depending on the day to this. Next one is best meals best meal. This might be the the one that I don't have a ton of options for when I lived there as an intern. I was supposed to get paid a thousand dollars a month. Which if you're living in the most expensive place in the world which is Geneva and that area always one or two thousand dollars isn't GonNa go very far. It's especially not gonNa go far if thousand dollars at they're supposed to pay you they don't actually pay you. That's GonNa go even less far so we had myself in the three guys. I live with entrance literally had no money like just the money that we had in savings to live in Switzerland for four months so we were not eventually get paid after. I was home for like four months. I got some of my four granddaughters supposed to get paid so we were living very skin at that point. That's a little UK slang for your little British slang for. We had no money so what this meant. Was that my favorite meal. I'll give you like two because one was like one a higher level version the other the lower level version was that we had to go to the grocery store and we had to buy the cheapest thing there you could buy was baguettes tomato and Mozzarella Mozzarella cheese is very cheap there and and we were splurge every once in a while on Salami and me and my buddies would literally every day four. Make have a bag with sliced mozzarella tomato and Salami on it and we would eat that every single day which was awesome. No because we could go outside of our office and I would go across the street and sit in the park and it was usually beautiful days because I was there in the summer into fall and we just have a picnic and we have that same picnic a bunch of times when I return. Actually this. This isn't really my favorite meal that we had. But it's definitely the best memory meal because when we started doing this in Switzerland eleven years ago was kind of the first time that we'd been traveling together and as trump said he was interning so it's Kinda like backpack. We were poor. We report report. We started doing this. We started just going to the grocery stores and getting these treats and in the US. We don't really eat that. I mean we do now but it was just kind of a fun thing like okay. We're GONNA do this. It's really cheap. And we started doing all on that trip anywhere we would go. We didn't really eat out very much. Harris. We talk about our favorite meals in. Paris are just going me started like the Grocery Store Picnic in Europe. And it's still one of my favorite things to do in even exceed some of the. Michelin rated restaurants that we went to a good Alami Mozzarella and tomato on a bad get is incredible and so doing. Every day I wanted to tell the upper level versus every once in a while we'd splurge and there is a place. In Lausanne called Jackie's that made sandwiches and it was seven euros are seven francs and we would go and when we had enough money we would go and get a hot sandwich. Did Awesome Chicken sandwiches. I'll with onions. And Cheese. And Mayo Ed's good it's we would splurge and we'd go to Jackie's like once a week stand line order an awful French you know. Everyone knew we were like the outsiders air because this was a local a local news. Just take away there. Was this guy behind the Grill. And this little store front so yeah. It was always a super special. Treat to go and get a Jackie Sandwich. Best meal well. My actual best meal is a place that we went to and maybe traffic can remember because we we didn't do research before we decided to just talk about Switzerland experience and we did this during the filming of the TV show. We went to this farm where they made cheese and they had put out the most incredible Kuri Board and I love Choudhury so to me. This was just something super special with local cheeses from that farm and cured meats and fresh fruits. And this second day of filming it was in Saint Moritz or let's say you had gone to a cheese maker there and say charcuterie potter. That was an interlocken but it wasn't state rights and that was one of the best things that we ate. Yeah it was amazing it was. I don't remember it was just a local little spot. Yeah so I don't cheesemaker that we we're filming. And then he brought out this amazing thing after filming them so I don't think you can wreak. I mean you could recreate it. But we don't know the name so yeah I'm sorry. Yeah but anyway. That was right the next car. Yeah this is going to be tough the most beautiful sight I have mine. I'M PRETTY SURE. Go ahead and because. I so I mean literally where you look in Switzerland. We'll be the most beautiful sight but having been to interlock interlocken a few times and Geneva a few time Lake Geneva and Lausanne and in those places I had been to multiple times and they are stunning and they are beautiful but when we went to Lucerne for the first time and we took the cable car up to office he ladas. Yeah I think yeah. I'm so glad you remember because I couldn't think I couldn't remember when I was thinking about where I where I- paragliding was missing it but it came back and you have to just you have to take the cable car up there because you get to the top and there's just you're surrounded by mountains and Lake Lucerne and eat is. The most stunning sight and lake. Geneva is beautiful too but there's not a cable car that I know of in the mountains ernest. Hi there because there's lots of wineries which are beautiful beautiful view from when you're on the boat and whatnot but in Lucerne the mountains or just hire an just. It's just green gorgeous landscape with this beautiful lake a humongous lake. Yes I think it's the most beautiful so I this is so hard I have three one. I'M GONNA use as my best memory I'm hanging onto. That is best memory because I'm GONNA explain it a little bit. It's where I lived so I have great memories are the so. I'm going to go with interlocking itself and specifically going up in the mirror and then Game Awad and the reason is because I think it depends what you go to I either. Lucerne or interlocking. Because when I went with my buddies that intern with two we went to interlocken. I and I was reading. Rick Steves guidebook and he specifically said you know go to interlocking but make sure you go up this mountain to Muren and then hike down a little bit to this tiny town of Jim. Awad which is like a hundred people and it's like being in the eighteen hundreds and so I did that and we went to Muren and it was just fantastic and so that area Ginowan Moore and we stayed in the mountain hostile which is incredible like waking up in the morning and this is specific memory waking up in the morning at the mountain hostile and looking out the window and just being there the mount hostile and game walk being there in. Those mountains is absolutely stunning view. I've ever had any hostile or any accommodation ever and so to me. Then my buddy chase went on that trip with me and then he later went to Lucerne which I never got to when I interned there. We didn't go into the TV show and he was like I don't know I think lucere might be more beautiful and so I didn't know that and so you might be right but I just can't get away from that first moment of beautiful Switzerland which to me first moment of Beautiful Mountain Switzerland which to me happened interlocking but more specifically going up to Marin and then going into Ginowan. You're in another world and I'm going to give a specific shoutout here. Yeah this is actually the moment. I fell in love with travelling in below interlocken. There's an area called the louder Brune Valley and that's to then get up into the mountains that I was telling you about going up to Marin and going to Milwaukee and I was walking through the valley the first time I was there and I stopped underneath a hotel balcony on the main street and it was one of those Swiss chateaus. So you know you all know what they look like they had the plants out Hanley chalets. Yeah chalets fine. I guess either all right Shelley and they have the wall last Stephen because he's going to play. This will ask him the proper way to say but they have on each. They have the balconies on the front. Yeah and then on each balcony. It's like a four story five-storey thing they have the flowers over the balconies. And you're just like this is stunning so I was standing under the first balcony just looking through the valley and I thought I'm GonNa make life a travel like this is too beautiful not to come back to and not to see what the rest of the world has to offer. We travelled some but it just hit me in that moment eleven years ago. Here's what's crazy. We have a friend named Stephen Mc Filling me. He owns an awesome. Bnb which some of you have been to. He's Irish on the dingle peninsula called the mill townhouse. Dingle he put up a picture and he said I just bought another place. I am now the owner of a place in Switzerland. It's called Hotel Oberland. That was the exact hotel I was standing under when I had that he piff Unie and now our friend owns it. Wow bringing raising coincidence right. Yeah that's incredible. It's absolutely mind boggling. How that happens. It's the exact one that I was standing under because I remember it and I'm in love with travel. So that is the most beautiful sight like Media Standing Louder. Brunen valley after coming down from GIN Milwaukee and saying Yep I'm travel. Yeah and I think that we need to the first international trip. We take. Maybe we need. We're coming for. He said he's like you gotta get here. That's what I told him the story when he put I put on facebook like you don't know this but said that story and he goes you gotta come in. It's incredible it's still incredible. Really is incredible and just Switzerland as I know. We say that so. Many countries are the most beautiful. I mean. He's willing to speak beautiful. That's how to quintessential beauty to Central Natural Beauty Switzerland. Yes absolutely the only thing that rivals it is when we've been in Georgia and Georgia just a bit more rugged but if that's the type of beauty you're looking for that type of beauty. I mean it's postcard perfect cylinders when it comes so I we're GONNA go over our time and we don't really have time on the Corinthian diaries. But I mean Switzerland okay. We got most beautiful most useful by that. I mean I just was like and it is hard all right the best drink and I have a few in my mind. Which you know are a few to do you okay. So I'll just start with the first time we win near. There's lots of wineries around Lake Geneva and so we had a lot of local wines and that's really finding you can visit them and you can see them all and like these terrorist levels. Which is your UNESCO World Heritage Site? That's incredible but then when I was really thinking about a specific time I was like okay. Well when we were in burn I had a really good coffee when I was really tired after filming an hour an amazing experience and then I thought wait a second. The most infamous drink that has ever happened in our entire sixteen year relationship and our travels for the past eleven years. There is a story here and travel loves to tell it. Don't you try your best? You tell so we were in Bern and we were staying at the most beautiful five star hotel in Burns who were filming with the TV show and this is the hotel. I think we'RE CONNECTED TO THEIR PARLIAMENT BUILDING. So all all the diplomats. Everyone who's anyone and can afford. It stays there. Yeah so we were. We were getting. This was the nicest place we stayed during the whole entire time of filming and it was our last day. Yeah we're actually getting ready to go to our very last shoot of the tendon. We're going to Abreu filming all that day. We went down the river and afloat and we had a barbecue and there's all filmed and working walking in and out of this five star hotels lobby in like shorts and a meeting sued. And then we change to our last shoot of the day and it was taking some time for the crew to get altogether. So we're just sitting there. We're ready we're waiting in the lobby and it's me and traffic and the sound guy and the cameraman and I'm just a little bit bored and I'm a little bit antsy so behind me. Is this incredible Bar Open Bar Jin Bar? They have a gin which is not usually. It's just all gin and I love GIN. It's kind of the Sherry family. Drink is ginger. Drink of choice when we talk about liquor so I'm like listen. We are just sitting here waiting. Why don't we just go and grab a quick GIN and tonic? Can I interject really quick? I know it's your story. We were so excited when we got here because this has a gin bar why who has a gin. And they had one hundred fifty Jin's and we knew we were going to stay there and we're like we can't wait to sample like some crazy exotic. Jin from around the world when we're done filming night so we're very much looking so you know but we're just waiting. I'm bored or something and so I really WanNa drink and then I say I have to go the bathroom. Yeah I say that you WANNA drink. He said no not really way to after we're done filming and we'll get it. This evening is exactly what I said. Okay and then I asked you know the sound guy. He's like. Yeah I love a drink and I asked the cameras like no no no. I'm fine but tries to the bathroom and I'm just like I really want a drink so I go over to the bar with the sound guy and we're talking about the Jin asking the bartender rapid gin and I'm like let's just do it. Let's just why not? Let's just get a drink while we're waiting so you know I order. I talked to the guy about jeans and I think I ordered one. That was like a Japanese gin which had no no. No no no no. I wanted the Japanese Jen because the Prime Minister of Japan had given this as a special gift to this hotel because he had stayed there so. I was very excited when that guy told me about that earlier today by the Japanese. Jim Hey I don't remember which you know. He wanted to give us like a Bombay Sapphire their new like like rang poor version. I'm like no he. He just gave us. I don't remember what is something that you can get other places in the world. So travel comes over from the bathroom and I ordered. At least I order you a drink. I ordered three and I think the sound I had gotten a drink for US and other times so I was like I'll just we'll get this round because we owe you one. Maybe not the best place to owes someone drink because we get the drinks and we drink. You're missing so many. I don't drink them yet. The moment he gives them to us the moment he gives us the drinks and we pour the tonic in the producer. He's like okay. You guys ready to go like we gotta get in the car. We were late for this. Shoot at the brewery. Let's go right the moment the bartender puts us down. So then we have to like suck back these drinks and superior literally have to Chug the GIN and tonic. Yet would the producers. We gotta go. Can we have a few minutes to drinking? Say We gotta get in the van you have less than a minute so we drink them very quickly chug that I just have to tell the story the right way and then I get. The bill and each drink was thirty. Us dollars thirty to thirty two Swiss francs so yeah thirty two US dollars. Yeah I was like well six francs so chug this gene. T- that I didn't want to get I opened the bill and it says ninety six francs on it. I was livid but we had to get into our last shoot at a brewery which was not the time to obviously get mad and I guess all's well that ends well because as our Buddy Jeff Walker said to us. He goes that ninety six dollars. That story will go so far because you'll tell it so many times really it's pennies. It spent those rings for Pennies Task Pennies. And here's the thing. Here's the crazy part. I never got to go back and getting another GIN and tonic. You could have didn't work out that way. We had to stay out late to film all kinds of stuff but but at least you can say you had a drink at this beautiful right. You know I welcome. Basically what I'm trying to say is you're welcome. Go that being said. There is a if you ever go to hotel in. Burn the Guy I did talk to. I said there is a Philadelphia Gin. That's really good called blue coat. I sent him an email about it. He now stocks at at his gym bar. Which is pretty cool so we had a little bit of so. That's neat to know your has since forgiven me. It took a couple of days. Maybe even a couple of weeks you guys decide. Forgive I did cut in there a few times a story. That is the best story around the lead. I will give that. That was one of my shoes. I'll give a quick little one. I told you about being in Gimmel walled and staying at the mountain hostile. Which if you're even if you're not a hostile person stay in the mountain hostile and get more. It's awesome but the the next house up from the mountain hostile is a little restaurant and bar and I just remember sitting there. One of the first pictures I put on facebook when I was living in. Switzerland was me sitting there with a beer. The beer held out like a big sign of beer in my hand and like the background is the mountain and it literally just looks like there's a hand with a beer and then the mountains right there because you're just in the album. It's incredible so yeah. That beer was the one of the Best Beers I've ever had because most scenic place. Not as good as the GIN and tonic. No not as good as best memory. I'm sure for travel I. I'm not really sure what mine could be. I think. Do you want to go first or I will. So I've been waiting to tell the story or thing since the beginning for me. I lived on a vineyard. So have you heard bear? I supposed to make a thousand dollars working my butt off in Switzerland so that wasn't the payoff but the the one of the best things about it other than just getting fall in love and travel on that trip was that I lived with three other guys on an awesome vineyard that was steps to the beach. Who's right across the street lake? Geneva was right across the street from our vineyard so it was done needing stunning everyday to go back to this chateau shallow and I made a promise that every single day every single day walk across the street and dive into the lake. Because at that point we didn't travel much and I said I have no idea when I will ever be back here and to ever have this opportunity again so I am going to dive into this like every single day that I live here and swim. And so it's really into making these huge all-encompassing just said I'm going to dive in. I'M GONNA swim. I'M GONNA float on my back and I'm going to look up at the Alps on the other side of the lake. The French Alps. I'm GonNa do that every day. Which was really easy to do for the first there and during the summer first couple of weeks but then it started to get colder and there was like ten September October and it was getting pretty cold and my buddies at long sense. Like why are you going to the lake? Every like you know it kind of become a little old hat to them and I said no way and so my best memory is just diving into that like every single day and I would just float on my back with my hands behind my head and I said you're going look up at those mountains while you're floating in this like every single day and I did it every single day. My trip that I was at that how you know if we are traveling and we were not there you know. I couldn't do it but yes oh for four months. Basically one hundred and twenty days. I did that and that. It's just an incredible memory like it's just such an amazing place that I was able to get to live and so the beauty and I said you know it's hard to think of the most beautiful thing. That spot was incredible. Incredibly beautiful the vineyard incredibly beautiful so that Lake area the Chateau Day. She on that you mentioned over in Mantra It's just. It's incredible so just getting to live there and doing that every single day and coming home to that beauty after a day of work that probably pissed me off that our bosses weren't paying us. You know all this kind of stuff. All this animosity that happened I could come home and it could be all washed away by diving into lake every day and that goes right along with my best memory which I kind of mentioned earlier when I talked about doing the activities of boating on on the lakes in in the big in the big you know Swiss boats and we even did a one of the Duck Swan paddleboats and we were in Lucerne which was fine as well going on those big boats and the David we we did it. And we'd finished filming and we went to she decio much. We'd been to six years before and we just got engaged. Wind travel moved to Switzerland. And so that was like the first time and go back and we win to that Chateau and we did that whole boat trip and then when we did it years and years later after living in Japan after starting our travel by doing that it was just so cool to have those two memories. You know the same memories doing different times doing the same thing. Yeah but our lives and yeah the first time. We didn't jump in the lake in swimming. I don't know why but we did that second time and that was just so cool. Swimming in Montrose. Around Chatto is awesome. Swimming in Lake. Geneva itself Crescendo. Does she owns a different. Stop from Macho isn't mantra-like a little bit further or yeah. I mean they're right in the WALK IN BETWEEN THEM. Maybe not yeah anyway. That is incredible. It's incredible yeah so we love love love of our buddy if you're watching. Tv Our son is on the other side of the camera waving at us so cute. He's he's going to be the one that takes over this podcast so yes okay best memories. Yeah there you have it. Yeah and then we have one more. Most surprising thing which to me is just how unreal. The scenery is in Switzerland. That it just looks fake. It's beautiful it's that amazing you. I have not heard anybody say that. They dislike Switzerland or that. It's not beautiful. So can I read off just a few sure I live there? I'm GonNa give you just a few quick hitters and we have a whole Switzerland destination diary so definitely we do definitely we. Don't we gotTA DO? I'm pretty sure definitely. Check that out. We'll go into more detail. Few Cricketers one the price. Well Yeah I was GONNA talk AIDS. I mean I'm not sure it'd be a downer. It's crazy expensive. Everything in Switzerland other than Mozzarella cheese is crazy. Expensive bags and you know listen. It's you you get what you pay for. That's not always true in travel right because you could go really cheap. Isaac Switzerland is worth going to. It's worth saying I'm going to splurge to be here. There are to do it a lot cheaper and not break the bank but you will get sticker shock when you're in on the first timers there I remember. We tried to go to McDonald's one of the first as we were there because we don't even know what to do. We have no money in this just coming towns and it was eighteen dollars. We thought what like. We can't even afford McDonald's here so that's a surprise. Second how awesome the town of Los on is so I lived there and loved it but it gets way overlooked because you have Geneva which I love Geneva and to be fair. I didn't spend a Lotta time there but it was very very you know the UN's there. It's very kind of buttoned up and very Swiss. And whatever you could go to los on. It's a lot smaller. I think it's a lot cooler and a lot funkier and you still have the same scenery because you're still in the lake. So do not miss. Los On interlocken is amazing. Burn is amazing amazing surprising because it's not one of the big hitters. You know and apple and it's like a smaller city and it's not on a lake but it is on river and the river culture. There is very cool. People just on their lunch breaks jump in the river and float down it and then hop out and go back to work mean. I'm not lying people do that. It's so cool it so that's a really funds small so if you're planning it yeah same same thing kind of with Burnham saying with son. Don't skip them like it's easy to overlook both of them. You gotta go to Lucerne you gotta go to Interlock in but you should definitely get down to low on and you should hit burns. Well I can skip Zurich. I know I was just GONNA so. We were in Zurich and I mean I didn't it was okay. It's it's another really Nice Lake but Lucerne is nicer and I think Lawson is nicer so for sure. Don't Miss Burn. Don't Miss Los on on that note with those on. The Olympic Museum in Lausanne is good. That's right incredible win the whole time you live there. We win did you. I went back with. Yeah okay. I didn't go in there when I came to visit. The reason I was there was because we were working for International Sports Federation and the International Olympic Committee is there and then the Olympic Museum is there. It's one of the Best Sports Museums. I've ever been to in my life absolutely incredible so don't miss that I was shocked at how amazing that was and then I mean that's that was kind of what I wanted to hit on. Those things is the most surprising is like you know and I guess I kind of to get on your point. The the last part is that. It's so easy to get around that kind of going back to your your thing of everything so beautiful. I would just. I would spend as much time as you can in Switzerland even if that means doing it cheaper somehow and stretching your dollar. Because you don't want to miss any parts of it and we really don't. We didn't even talk about the panoramic train. The same berates in back. There's a lot there. Solta lot of amazing things there. And Yeah you're GONNA be amazed and surprised by the things you know. You'RE GONNA be amazed and surprised by the Mountains Lakes Times that and then you're gonna be amazed by the things that you don't might be hidden gems like on like burn like the Olympic Museum. Like just you know hanging out on. Lake Geneva and taking a little paddle steamer around I. It's just incredible. I we went we went. Oh my gosh. Absolutely incredible special place in our best price dollar if you could just start crushing the Swiss francs so we can go back and and not be as expensive. That'd be nice to but thank you guys for listening. This are quarantine diaries. This one was the longest one. We've done so far so not always short form but short or shorter farm. Unedited off the cuff. Yeah so there you have it Switzerland absolutely love it. Let us know off. You've been a Switzerland rank ranked places you've went right. The cities have fun with that. You can do that at XTRAC peanuts. Keep the love coming for the quarantine dyers guys at Super Helpful. And we appreciate you appreciate all that you're doing. Don't forget we asked before. Leave a rating or review. We're trying to get to a thousand of them so leave a radio interview. That would be super helpful for us as well. That's it Jetson a great day.
CBS2 NEWS PM NEWS UPDATE 09-09-20
"Hi. I'm Dana Tyler CBS News New York. Here's a look at your news headlines. Hundreds of homeless people living in Lucerne Hotel on Manhattan's upper west side are now being moved to a shelter. The city put them at the hotel at the start of the pandemic. Some residents in the community have threatened to sue the city complaining of quality of Life Problems in their neighborhood drug maker. AstraZeneca. Is Halting its phase three trial of a possible covid nineteen vaccine. After one participant came down with an illness, it's not known exactly what happened to the patient or if the illness is linked to the vaccine. Lifesaving moments were caught on camera at a subway station in Brooklyn to good. Samaritans including an MTA employees saved a seventy year old man who fell on the subway tracks the two people lifted the man onto the platform seconds before the arrival of a C train. Governor Cuomo announced New York City will allow indoor dining at twenty five percent capacity beginning September thirtieth also shopping malls in the city and casinos across the state have reopened for business in whether. Says expect a few showers. An isolated down four is possible Wednesday night low seventy, one Thursday showers off and on some storm activity as well. Humid with a high of eighty Thursday night showers and storms take off the low sixty nine. We have your forecast local news headlines On our twenty four seventh streaming service. CBS and new. York founded on CBS new. York dot com or the CBS News. App I'm Dana Tyler CBS News.
Randy Mastro 1-17-21
"Good morning new york. This is the cash roundtable cats with here sunday morning. What's going on in new york is today's when the smartest guys i know randy mastro. He was deputy mayor in new york little while ago and also he was an assistant. Us attorney in the southern district of new york and lately he was fighting hard for the west side of manhattan to clear after lucerne hotel morning. Mr masculine how are you this morning. Great john poised to be with you and still fighting hard for the upper west side. Tell you know. I grew up in the west side. Someone i care about it you know. Tell us about what. Give us an update. What's going on the west side. Well we won the case at the trial level. Judge ruled that the the homeless single adults who were being temporarily housed at the lucerne. Sro hotel on the upper west side with been lots of problems in and around the hotel and then the neighborhood that the city at the right to move them downtown And then there was an emergency appeal. And then you are. There's always an appeal And the appellate according takes time for the court to sort it out. So what's happened. Since is the appellate court sent a expediter briefing schedule and all that but they want to retain their rights to decide the case so the bottom line they issued an order that's known as the status quo order to try and maintain the status quo. But they tried to split the baby. They said the mandatory cert who wanna move downtown to their new facility. They can move if they want to the men who want to stay if there will sir until the appellate court decides the case they can stay if it were sir but that puts the city and a catch twenty two. The city doesn't want to have to provide services at two different places but the same population. I saw effectively john. The baby split Is justice delayed because eventually the court is going to rule that these men lucerne do not have standing to challenge the city's decision on where to house them temporarily the city out of the right to move them into lucerne. The city has a right to move out of the lucerne as long as they're being provided you know proper shelter everybody concedes see the downtown is proper shelter so them go to lose eventually. But it won't take until april or may now. Mr master deputy mayor in the city And you you love the city here about city like i do. We have a democratic administration. You have a senate you have the congress you have. The executive branch is new. York and be saved is going to be federal relief. Can we save new york john. I do believe that there will be federal relief now going to states and cities hardest hit at obviously new york new york city. I remember in the original programs And even in the most recent program There there was not the money going directly to states and cities all the extra expense. They've had with healthcare police emergency services the billions of dollars that new york state and city are in the whole as a result there. There was no provision for that I believe in a democratic administration Whether you're republican or democrat a democratic administration it's gonna be an a democratic congresses can be much more likely that there is such direct Funding to states and cities hardest hit by head. I think you're going to see an increase in the individual amounts Going individuals from six hundred to the two thousand. And i think you're gonna see more. Ppp it just is a natural consequence. Remember the house democrats wanted to. Have you know a huge program that got scaled back by the republican senate. I think you're going to see a lot more federal aid coming. New york's way and hopefully that saves us out of this crisis. Addition mr mastro Team we can. Joe biden president brydon as of next wednesday Bring the country together. I mean he. He promised that He's gonna treat. All americans are same and it seems to be a lot of hate in washington mostly from speaker. Pelosi ary i we. Can we bring the country together. Mr master john. You're you're you're you're acting jackie. The right questions. And i think that's why joe biden won the election as as strong support as donald trump has in his base. I think that there was an overwhelming sense particularly along. You know swing voters that god. We needed somebody who unified the country. More and joe biden emerged in the democratic primaries because he was a guy who said i plan to work with the republicans they the ones on the far left who who who condemned the republicans. They're the ones who ended up losing in the democratic primaries. The guy who said he really cares about uniting the country and they committed to work with republicans including mitch. Mcconnell with whom biden had a long standing relationship having served for decades together in the senate. I think that's what joe biden is going to try to do. It's what he committed to do committing to do it and doing it or different things. John it's gonna be hard especially coming off the latest impeachment but you know something I i think that joe biden. Everyone says the same thing republican or democrat. That he's a decent guy with a heart guy whether you like is politics or not. He's a decent guy with a heart who tries to reach consensus so hopefully they will be able to deliver on that. Promise randy mascow. Thank you so much for coming on the show. And bringing all new yorkers up to dayton. We'll catch up again real soon my pleasure. John always great to be with you. Stay safe my friend. Youtube this roundtable be right back.
AT#687 - Travel to Switzerland
"The bags back on a roll and read. It's real good passport. The camera traveler six hundred eighty seven today. The amateur traveler talks about mountains and glaciers and hikes castles roles and festivals and Sherlock Holmes as we go to the country of Switzerland. Welcome to the traveler. I'm your host Chris Christianson with no further ado. Let's talk in some detail about Switzerland and I like to welcome the show Zach best from Boston. Who has come to talk to us about Switzerland Zach? Welcome to the show. Thank you very much. That's for having me and before we get started. What is your connection with Switzerland? I I went to Switzerland in the summer of two thousand eighteen with the biology undergraduate summer school and that was at the University of Zurich. I want there to do research a issue for the summer and that I really I fell in love with country with Zirk and I decided to look for another program to go back in the summer of Twenty nineteen and I applied for the thinks with scholarship. I should and with that. I went back to the University of Zurich again. Right did immunology research for the summer. Very cool in. Why should someone on travel to Switzerland so I will say that Switzerland is beautiful? But there's a lot of places in the world that are beautiful so I think there's a few additional things that make Switzerland a very good destination to go to for And that is. It's a very small country. which makes it so that there's a very high density of locations to get to and it's very easy to get to all of them not just because there's a lot in their close together but because there's a lot of infrastructure in terms of trains and buses Nelson Cable car is to get too high up in the mountains even if you're not someone who hikes all the time you can still get to that a top the mountain view and then also it's very safe and while the main language is an English and I don't speak any German under French Italian I was able to refine with Dhaka or bt and asking people to speak in English? So I would say hey. Those are the reasons you should go there on vacation. Excellent and what kind of tenor are you recommending for us. Today I've played a little itinerary. Three of what. If you wanted to tour around the center of Switzerland's so this will go from Zurich to Lucerne to the interlocken region and to burn and I'll talk about day trips from each location so Salang mountains because primarily what I did there on. The weekends was hiking. So we're not going to talk about about necessarily in the matterhorn but stuff. That is more in the center of the country so that you could probably do it in one trip and easier and simpler fashion excellent. So you're starting us in Zurich. I'm assuming better plane connections there then promptly anywhere else in the country yes exactly start off with flying into Zirk Irk. And then I'll say that order. This itinerary doesn't really matter so you could go from Zurich Bern interlocking where he can go from Zurich Lucerne earn or. You could even do this as day trips from Zurich which for me. I was only traveling on the weekends because I had to do research in the lab during the week right and so all of my traveling leveling was as day trips which can get hectic it can lead to a long day but it's totally possible with the trains and you can definitely fit in in fact the second time I was there in summer two thousand nineteen. My mom can stay with me for a week and we saw the country by doing day trips from Zurich and went to a lot of these places in that way so really. What works best for you in terms of you find a great hotel deal for week certain area you can go there in still all these destinations from that point instead of having to do it in the loop that I'm gonNA lay up but to walk you through it in a manner that maybe makes sense mentally? I'll go from Zurich Eric Wizard interlocking. I think I've mentioned on the show before because we've done other shows on Switzerland other. We focused more on western Switzerland. We've done shows on Basel and we've done a couple of shows on Geneva and then we did one recently in all the UNESCO World Heritage sites so I don't know for sure whether I mentioned this for a while at least but we went to Zurich one time for a particular festival. That's eric runs every three years. We'll talk about a little a bit later. And that's the only city we've ever been in the world where my wife started looking at real estate and said these are people this. This is a place where she could live. So you had a similar reaction. It sounds like when you were there. What should we be doing in Zurich? And what did you fall in love with in this area. Yeah so I really liked Zirk as a place to live. Of course that was my home base because I was going to the University of Zirk and especially during the summer the atmosphere is fantastic people outside at bars cafes and then the center there is Lake Cirque and this is a beautiful. We'll clean lake with parts on all sides of it. The Old Town opens up into this league. There's swan swing around and it's so alive at all all times there's people swimming and diving those setup high boards that you can die from there is different swimming areas on the Lima. which is the river that comes out of the lake and there you can get a floaty or you can swim down with the current and it will carry you along you get out once you've gone as far as you want then you can take a bus back to the start of the river than hot back down and keep doing that when you have those heat waves that they've been having having Europe go swim and it's fantastic? It's clean and everyone's out doing and even though it's a very cosmopolitan city the and there's a lot of things to do. It's not a huge city and so it's very walkable. Today's easy to get around the public transportation and it feels like a great place to live any particular sites. You would recommend we see while we're in Zurich sure so I'll say that there is a free botanical garden that's associated associated with the university which is very nice. There is also the Zurich Zoo which has to really interesting exhibits which I think are very special to that zoo specifically one is they have a very large elephant enclosure which is very nice and then they have something called the swallow hall which is is essentially a giant indoor rainforest where you get to walk amongst the plants and lemurs and the birds they have in there. There's chameleons that are on trail changing colors and that's really wonderful experience. I think that to walking around the whole town seeing the giant churches seeing the plazas. That's all something that whether you're doing that as your whole day or you get back from daytrip and you WANNA walk around the lake and get some some ice cream. I think that's a fantastic thing to do. There's also the long strategy area which was the old red light district but now it's it's become this place with clubs and restaurants so there's a lot of stuff that you can go there to that getting eat and it's not going to be as crowded with Taurus. Is there a particular restaurant you would recommend or restaurants would recommend lungs Trotha. I wouldn't say there's any particular one in that area but there are cheaper options compared to the rest of Zirk because as I'm sure you've heard from previous guests on the show. Eating in Switzerland is very expensive. If you want to go to a restaurant and as a student I did not do that all too often because I needed to spend money on train tickets so I will say. There's there's one restaurant this isn't right in the long Straw area. I think was very good. Although it's not traditional Swiss food which is a a zero eight one pizza and this is a pizza place. Feels like something. I should be trying to solve as an equation. Well the idea behind it is zip code in Naples Italy. I am this place. The whole restaurant moved to Zurich and supposedly they brought their entire crew with them and they have fantastic pizza and has a five minute walk from the train station so that would be my one shoutout to a specific restaurant because otherwise my advice is to cope or gross and get a sandwich from from there. They she got it and you mentioned the churches in town a couple that I think are worth mentioning so probably the two best known ones Ark Gross Monster and Frau Monster so great Minster Adminstratice Dead Church and the first one is founded legend. Legend says by Charlemagne in eleven hundred. These are tall gothic sort of things and from an stir. The was founded by arrested Karadzic. Women which is what has its name there are some Marc chagall modernist stained glass windows in the church not my favorite to be honest But quite different from what you'll find typically in European churches. I think the towers of the Church when you are walking through the old town how they really because there's not very many tall buildings in Zurich or Justin Swiss cities general so really stands out and has this presence in the old town which he really feel as you walk around which is very nice a few other areas as well in the old town the Opera House in the plaza there is this. Big White floored floored plaza. That then goes to the Opera House in a lot of times they have lights shining on it. And it's this white marble building and that's a beautiful sight in the old town and it's right by the lake. Well when I talked about food places and I say that restaurants are too expensive to eat at. That's one thing but I do love going to get ice. CREAM INSERT INSERT. There's one ice cream place called Jila. Tairea burn up and it has very good ice cream so that would be my other recommendation for to do there and you can go get that. In one area called Frau. Gerald started this urban garden with a lot of small restaurants and bars and a lot of people go to hang out there in the summer. That's also another nice location that you can go relax in the city. You've mentioned the lake. That is the real beautiful lake there. Right on the side there and real easy to access to you mentioned parks all along the way but he didn't mention how easy it is to get to. This parks those parks works. You can walk from the main station or the central transportation which is right next to the main train station and you can walk there in fifteen in minutes through the parks along the lake or there is a plethora Switzerland of public transportation so it is very easy to hugh hop on a bus hop on a tram and get around the city. In addition to that there's also boats that will take you around the lake that are actually I used as it's not just a cruise for pleasure but it's actually public transportation that people use to get to and from work so their small boats there's also larger larger cruise ship Vessels that will take you really far down not cruise ship like Oh suit and going cruise ships cruise boats. Yup crews both. Yes not. I'm not sure one of those would fit in all the water out if you come on so I did want to mention this festival that we went to in Zurich. They do every three years. And that's Zuri Fasht and I don't know if you happen to be there one of the summers that they do it or if your time there missed Zuri flushed. I was lucky enough to be there this summer. And they did have it in two thousand nineteen okay so the next one would be twenty twenty two to if they're still doing it every three years. which is the last? I'd heard probably at least six years ago when we were there and it is a sight to be seen and I have to say that I've I've seen it in one guidebook. That is an English. It is something that I have not generally seen advertised so I would say that. It is predominantly advertised in German predominantly for locals and the people in the region but it gets hundreds of thousands of people to the city for a three day period. I want to say. And they set up something like seventy beer tents and seventy stages with everything from traditional music to Japanese Elvis impersonators and I think there was a cover band from queen and all sorts of things going on starts at ten thirty in the morning and ends at five thirty the the following morning with a great big fireworks presentation being one of the highlights of the fireworks was the only time I've ever been uncomfortable as we were on one of the bridges close to the lake and was way too crowded so get a little distance. If you're going there to view the fireworks but that one of the reasons I said my wife Loves Zurich the these are her people is when you have hundreds of thousands of people in seventy beer tents by five thirty in the morning. The city was trashed. I mean every a trash can was overflowing. There was broken glass on the streets. It needed some cleanup by ten thirty. When they started up again the city was cleaner than Paris? On a good day the city runs like a Swiss watch. I think probably would be the right phrase there. We almost never saw police this presence and yet when someone who had are hostile said they saw somebody collapse. 'cause they drunk too much. The emergency people were right there so it is is very organized and very well run and my wife being a project manager. That's why she felt that these were people. These are people who get things done efficiently. And but it's it's a great time to see Switzerland with its hair down. Basically party like the Swiss may not be a phrase that roll off your tongue but it might be after you go to Zuri flashed. Yeah exactly and I think that what you said about it is very true. They have a lot of events going on. Oh yeah they have stunt planes they had this this year. I believe it was the Spanish Air Force stunt helicopters. They're flying over the lake then also exactly like you said it's very crowded added when you go to watch the fireworks on the bridge and you have to really push through people. I think normally Swiss people are very polite. But it's something to try and work way through those crowds especially when in the narrow streets because this is setup all in the center of the town right of the river right Yep in spills all all the way down the parks along the lake and all the trams are not on their usual route. Everything is on schedule so it is definitely hectic to get around for it. Oh yeah they also have deejay booth set up in the the small streets near the gruesome insert. which is very cool but also that makes it very difficult? Oh to walk around anywhere so it is definitely an experience I'll say and then just like you said. The city is trashed the next morning but then they clean it all up. However if you're like me and you go hiking on the weekends at six? Am every day you'll wake up and you'll still be able to see the bottles around and when I go to the main station on days like that because also there's another big festival that happens. Every year insert which happens at the first week of August first weekend of August which is a big. Edm Festival which Lake Erie Fest An ATM Electronic Dance Music. Luxury professed. A ton of people go into the center of the city and it takes up that whole area believe they say it's a million people every year. Okay that is a huge party. You can hear the music for miles away coming from the center of the city at the train station. The next morning feels a little bit. I don't want disparage Switzerland at all because I love it but it feels a little bit like a war zone because there's all these people sleeping in hung over the train station. The Senate is the only time time you'll see that answer exactly otherwise it's very clean and everyone's out and about and picture this because it's me with my hiking backpack and I look a a little bit like a boy scout ready to go hiking in all these party. People in their rave clothing hung over and passed out in piles and I'm walking by them to get on the train. So that's another big festival you can go to. Although it's also very chaotic just like Zuri Fest and then there is one other vessel that I was there for which it's not a huge festival but it's called the Lima Swim and so with that is for half a day. People can all go. You actually have to sign up a little early in advance because it can get very crowded but still fun to go watch and you rent floats and you go from The lake float all the way down. The Lima was just a huge crowd of people in the not being the river that goes through the middle of town. Yep let's Yep exactly and so everyone gets the same floaty and they all vote on a name for it though. The designed for the year will be like a starfish or something. The the whole city will vote on her name for what they're starfish float is going to be called so that's another fund then you can go see there or you can do it on your own that that isn't happening. If you can find inflatable somewhere that you want to carry them very good but I would say if you do travel to work on one of those as the festivals around especially with the two with the large amounts of music going on. It should affect your choice of accommodation. We actually stayed in the city backpacker hostel which is right downtown. They really tried to talk us out of it because they said No. You don't understand. There's there's a stage outside and they'll be playing till five. Am A and we don't know we understand. No no no really right outside. We brought earplugs but it worked fine for us but it would not work for some other people. If you have to trouble getting to sleep or troubling sleep with noise that would not have been a good option excellent anything else. We want to talk about e in Zurich before we move on with your itinerary. I think that itself that covers a lot of it for what I have to say. Of course there's a lot of day trips. You can do from Zurich as well but we can talk about that a little bit and then head to loser okay. What did you have in mind? I all talk about real quick now that we're actually leaving the city. How you you should get around Switzerland and I think this has been talked about on your show before but there's something called the Swiss travel pass and this pass ask is fantastic and this is probably what I would recommend? Ninety percent of tourist travelling in Switzerland get and the the only other scenarios. If you really wanNA car because again in Switzerland you can get around everywhere by public transportation even up into the mountains just fine nine and I think that that's a really good inconvenient way to see the country but some people may want a car if they are traveling from Switzerland to another country road specific specific places. They will look at that. They need a car to get to. which is maybe? There's a few mountains that it's a little easier to get to with a car or the beginning of trailer. It's easier to get to with a car and so this past is great because it's free public transportation on the days that it's active anywhere in Switzerland Poland and it also covers the boats system because it's considered public transportation. So one thing that I really recommend to people when they go to do cruises on some of the lakes aches so with this pass. That's totally free then. Also there's a few cable cars which are normally very expensive that this past covers as well and then besides that essentially covers most cable cars is half off so it gets you a huge discounts and free activities. Ladies and then you can also get as either straighten a row options so it would be three days in a row but for me. I was traveling on the weekends. You can also get Affleck's options so if there's certain days you know you're going to be traveling verse being city you can get it so that you fill out specific dates on it within a month period and then you can use those days to travel around so you kind of be flexible with your schedule and this week also. Aren't buying train tickets in advance. Because is one thing I think is very important for. Switzerland is flexibility with your and that is because the weather can be a little bit unpredictable. Sure sure I think a big drought Switzerland is going to see the mountains. And so if you want to go hike but then it's so cloudy that you can't see anything I would say they don't try and force that instead because you can get to most places in a day go on a weather APP and look for where it's sunny and his head there for the day but see now. I'm wishing I had heard vice before our trip to Switzerland because that is where our trip failed this after we left Switzerland after he left Zurich Rather. We ran into a couple rainy days in a row. Then they happen to be when we were going to know your next stop interlocken and so some of the activities activities that we went there for it wasn't appropriate weather for. Yeah EXAC saying that. It is tough because Switzerland's also not a big country so when it's rainy in one place it can be rainy in most of the country. Yeah but still. There's a chance that you would find somewhere to go in so I was kind of a madman with always checking checking the weather right before I'd go somewhere just to make sure it was going to be sunny and I would enjoy the hiking for the day real quickly. The other option for maybe the last ten percent of people is. There's something called the half pass and this is a pass you can get for under twenty dollars for a month. I believe and with that all tickets are half off and so that there's an APP called SBB mobile which if you go to Switzerland you need to download this APP. There's no two ways about it. You need eight to have this on your phone in order to get around easily. It's the official APP of the train system and it is fantastic. You Oh you put in your destination where you're starting from and it will give you all the different ways you can get there the times. It's very up to date. It will tell you. Trains are late which is rare rare but it can happen. It will tell you if there's construction going on so the normal route of the train is off by bit in. There's a detour. And you can also buy tickets with a and so if you're in one area and there's a line for the ticket booth because there's much tourists you hop onto that you buy ticket it gives you a little. Qr Marco that you show to the conductor and you're on your way and also will show you discount tickets because if there's a train that is maybe early in the morning and and there's not many seats on it they will lower the price it locks you into taking that specific train but then you can use that somebody. That's fifty percent off the on that train nine than with the half past you get another fifty percent off so you can get a lot of savings with that. You think you're going to be not traveling as far. So maybe you're doing Zurich and then day trips from Zurich going only an hour hour and a half because those tickets will be cheaper than going from Zurich interlock and in that way you can save a lot of money. I like that excellent now. You mentioned some day trips from Zurich I would say my highlight and I think this is actually an area that might be my favorite area of Switzerland Roland which I say that tentative leaks have a lot of areas I really enjoyed and that is if you go from Zurich to the apple area and go to Mount Santa's and this area has beautiful hiking. It's really really incredible spot. It's not Ajayi Antic Mountain like you'll find interlocken. I think it's maybe twenty five hundred meters at the very top but it's the tallest mountain in the area by far so it really stands out amongst the landscape and then there's a lot of different hiking you can do here in also a lot of different sites so for example one thing is. There's the Ayrshire Mountain restaurant which is a restaurant that is built into the side of a cliff in in recent years. This has become a really really famous instagram attraction. So famous in fact that the previous owners quit because they couldn't handle the tourism anymore and now it's reopened with new owners but that's a very beautiful spot. It's very interesting restaurant and then it looks over Lake Siasi which essentially means Lake Mountain lakes. It's a very beautiful lake. It reflects the the surrounding mountains in an amazing way. Because it's at the bottom of this very sharp valley so you get all the mountains reflected right in this lake. And there's cows walking around in a lot of Swiss areas you'll find cows all over the trails. Their sheep widener summertime in the summertime. Yes from my perspective of Switzerland which is only in summer so right right and there's also some very interesting interesting geological formations there the sexy luke which is a gigantic fin of rock. That comes out of the ground and rises above the valley. And that's a beautiful area to hike by and you can also see people climbing to the top and then if you are adventurous and you're good hiker you you can go to the top of Santa's and going to the top you have to go through some snow even in the summer and there's some ladders and runs that you have to climb up which is not really dangerous but if you have a fear of heights I would not try to go to the very top because you're gonNA run into that need to turn around. But I did a large hike in this area that you can do to combine all of these sites into one where you go to this cable car horror casten and then it's it's about a six and a half hour hike six hour hike to go from there all the way to Santa's and you walk over the whole area and you really get to see this fascinating geology. And unlike most of the other mountain ranges in Switzerland in the weight shaped and there's these three three beautiful lakes there being one of the and I think that's fantastic day-trip from Zurich. It's maybe an hour and a half to two hours to get there depending on which part right you go to in which cable car you take terms of where you're going. You're heading east from Zurich over towards the border with Austria and Liechtenstein. Exactly exactly and from the top of ethanol which is one of the peaks on this little mountain range or from Santa so you can see into Austria Liechtenstein Zayn and even Germany sure there's people that are parasailing in paragliding there whether you're doing an intense day hike or going to enjoy the views walk by the Lake and look at cowes. I think it's a really fantastic area. And also the trainer in is probably what you expect in terms of Switzerland and in that it's rolling Green Hills and farms so it's probably your idyllic Swiss area and I think that that is really a special place in Switzerland because it's also not as heavily touristed because it's not down in the interlocken area. Okay well On. We should probably move along here anything else. We want to say about the Zurich area before we move further into your itinerary. I'll quickly mentioned two other dating options without going going into detail but one is going to Stein online. which is a very beautiful little village on the Rhine which is in northern Switzerland and it has a castle above it that you can walk to you and also? The town is filled with murals on all these old buildings so the the whole town is essentially covered paintings. And so that's a really nice area somewhere. You can go if it's rainy some of you don't want to go into the mountains but you can still walk around this town down in its very delightful. There's people that bike through town along the river there is a nice day trip and also going to the glares area which is southeast of Zirk. Man This is an area that I have rarely seen mentioned in guidebooks of Switzerland. Because it's I think we're Swiss twist people go to hike in vacation but there's some very beautiful hiking there in one thing in the episode about UNESCO sites it has the Sardana a geological area right. And some really nice hiking there. Some of my favorite hiking in Switzerland In that area I would say excellent and then you moved us onto. Do we want to go to interlock next. I think before interlocken will stop at Lucerne shirt will be on the way. You'll take a train from Zurich Lucerne and this is also also spot. You could do as a date for dessert. Because it's a fifteen minute train ride but it's a city that you could go here and I think you could spend your week just in this area as well and so learn is probably my favorite old town. In all of Switzerland it has to. I believe it used to have to now. Still send old covered bridges that go across the lake. Right as you come out of the train station you'll see that and you'll see the lake there and in the summer they'll get covered in pollen so the roofs of these large bridges become yellow in there on the sides. There's flowers all over them and it's an amazing sight and inside these bridges they have paintings depicting part of it too picks the plague so the action very morbid morbid paintings inside this beautiful covered. Bridges not remember that they're crea- paintings. You have the sense of walking through this beautiful area. I'm smelling the flowers. And then you look up at these paintings and it's skeletons carrying dead people around so a mess message for Hersher and it's also very easy to navigate because it's not that big so you walk right along the river that goes backwards from the lake. Pass these bridges and you walk until you get to the old town walls which still stand and you can go up into them until ugliest five pm every day so you may want to do this. I because you won't be able to get in once it's nighttime you can go up to the top and you have a beautiful view overlooking the city and Mount pilots is right next to Luzern so you have a view of that in the mountains in the distance in the lake. Think that that is to me. Stereotypical Swiss city is. When you look out over that view and then from there another thing to do is you can take a fifteen minute? Walk or take a tram over to the line monument lizard and this is a really large stone sculpture dedicated to Swiss mercenaries who died during the French Revolution. And it's this gigantic beautiful alliant carved into a cliff overlooking a small fountain. And that's very nice site in terms of one other thing to see the old town before you start going to the mountains in the area and Dan so once you've done that which to be honest probably takes you half a day to do that just like most cities. In Switzerland Luzern is not very big. It's very nice. It's it's not GonNa take up your full day to see if you're on the move and so this is where the Swiss pass really comes in handy because then now you've taken the train from Zurich and now you're going to hop onto a boat to get across the lake at which would normally be very expensive but again with the Swiss pass free so you'll take that boat over to mount. Rigi is one of the options you can go to and so you can take a boat right to the base of Mount Rigi and the news the Swiss pass to get most of the way up by cable car. If you choose or you you can hike and again this free with the travel pass and from there you hike to the top. It's maybe an hour. This has a very nice view over the lake. It's not tall mountain. It's maybe fourteen hundred to sixteen hundred meters tall but it has a great view of the lake. Very nice it has the mountain backdrop and itself. Is this Rolling Hill with a lot of flowers on it. Cows things like that Swiss things. Then you can take lead. It's a COG wheel train back down or the cable car. Either way and then head back to learn. That would probably be a full day trip but that would be a really great introduction to Switzerland so if you wanted to leave Zurich maybe Zurich has a festival going on when you first get thank you could easily go straight to lose earn and that could be year introduction to Switzerland and I think that'd be really terrific because you don't have to do any insane Zane hiking yet recover from jetlag explore this beautiful city take a cruise on the lake and it's a wonderful experience also in this area. We have a few other day trip options. which can do so one? That is free is you can go to stow. which is this mountain town town on the other end of the lake? So you can either take a cruise ship there which would take that cruise ship but a cruise there on a smaller ship which would take a little awhile. Get there because it's at the far end or you can take train and I believe with the Swiss pass again. This cable cars free. So it's another thing you can quickly quickly fit in if you want without paying any extra money as long as you've gone with that option do a short hike there. It's not a really big hiking area but it has some nice views and then also from Lisburn you can go to Engelberg which is about an hour away from there. You can get to mount titlists which is very famous mountain Switzerland. I would say I think it's Luzern is an area where you're gonNA start running into large tour groups. I'd say mostly Disley Indian tour groups. I think you've mentioned on previous so you'll see that some of these places really know what they're doing with marketing young crowd. They have a Chinese or Indian restaurant right at the top in the end. Right right here about titlists two. They have some very fancy Indian restaurants and things. But there's also a really nice hike here which you go to Yuck pass and it's called the four lake so you'll pass yok walk test. My chairman is not so J. O.. C. H. US just for those playing the game yes. My German doesn't extend much biana spreading kind wishes. I can't speak German. So that hike is very nice is very doable. Thank for all skill skill levels and you get to see some beautiful mountain lakes. It's close to Lucerne and I think that's a great option and the last thing in this Korea l mentioned before we move on is that you can go to the standard Horn which is a little bit south. It's maybe an hour away if that from Lisburn and this is a special cable car because it has sunset options so most cable cars close at maybe five pm so really her. Unless you're playing to hike down which if you're doing day trips I was. I didn't necessarily have time to do that. You can go up. I believe it's Thursday through Saturday is maybe although I'm sure that changes depending on the season you go up and it has a very nice restaurant at the top and very nice three sixty view walking area. I believe you can go down until midnight. Maybe I'm not sure exactly how late but seeing the sunset from there which I really got to seek at least would have to be on the train heading back desserts so getting to see the the pink glow on the mountains and the sun setting over. Mount pilots in was earned was very beautiful will and sunset in summer in Switzerland. We're talking something like nine o'clock. I WANNA guess if you're close to the height of summer probably almost new ten PM hookah. You have a lot of daylight to play with which is great but it also means you have to stay up late on the mountain to see a a sunset so that I think is a really nice option. If you've gone hiking a lot you wanna do something really relaxing and very different as well other places. Don't don't give this option. The latest set of the year in Luzern area is nine hundred thousand six split the difference between the nine of attending you and I were say the perfect well now you have the exact time to go see so I think that's a great option and from there you can go from from luzern to interlock by train and that's maybe an hour hour and a half depending on what train you get and this train also goes through a really beautiful area. Switzerland versus all those other areas of Switzerland. This one is especially okay. Okay got it although yes. It's tough to pick because when you take the trains all over the country you keep finding new places where to go you have a listen. You think I've seen it all and then when you go by when I got to go there as well kind of bums. Yeah we should say if you think mountains and hills or not attractive this is not the country free for you so whenever we hear that this is a particularly attractive area. There's probably mountains and hills. Yes exactly and that is one thing I'll say for though the Wi- Switzerland again as well there's a lot of very nice cities here that I think are very beautiful. A lot of them. You could probably see within two days so he really want a more cosmopolitan vacation. I think you would have to look elsewhere on this train ride. There's a lot of stops that you could get out on NC in the catch the next train after you've been there for for example lake longer now on the way which is an instagram famous spot. Also the town of I don't know the pronunciation you can correct me if I'm wrong on this bringing okay. I believe they claim to have we've created meringue although I'm not certain on the that name association but they also have stuff like the Sherlock Holmes Museum. 'cause oh the false false were sherlock holmes supposedly died exactly the name of which it escaping me me as well. I WanNa say it could be six falls. Reichenbach falls Reichenbach. Okay my Sherlock Holmes. Knowledge is not the best. So that's all right only silver blaze. I think is the story I know so but there's hiking in that area as well you can go to Meringue to cable car up. There's beautiful user there but maybe you almost do that on a separate trip because we're still trying to get through to interlocking and so an interlock in the city itself. It's nice ice because of the mountains in the rivers lakes surrounding it. But I don't know that there's that much compared to somewhere leagues. Eric Bernard Loser Similar place yeah. I think it's more of a more touristy. Yeah exactly but you can of course do cruises on the lake again. This free with the travel pass. Those are pretty Nice in you talked about this before but there is in tune which is on one end of lake tune which interlocking consituency between lake tune and literally interlocken between the leaks. The name describes it perfectly so you can go there and that's a little little bit of a nicer city. 'cause they have to castles and a Nice Little Park area and talked about it before castle. Oberhof at how nuts yeah beautiful castle jets out over the lake a little bit. And that's a very nice thing to see as you do a cruise. Well it for us. That was a rainy day activity Macaws the young Frau. Yoke the the High Mountain passes what most people are coming to this area for or or some of the other mountain experiences but when their socked in and with whether we did the cruise around or the drive around the throne say between Thune and Interlocken and saw the Oberhof in in castle and also the trump castle as well which is a colorful gardens in front and also Not quite as striking as Oberhof. I think that those are great options for when it's raining is to do those kinds of cruises and then also it's near Moroccan but there's something called the are gorge George Okay. This is a recommendation for. If it's raining in the area you can go there. And it's maybe eight dollars to take walk on the wooden paths through the a large gorge and that's a really nice activity and do when it's raining because you can still see the gorge and it's not blocked by clouds like a mountain would be so and in fact the river might like the flowing even faster which could be on fun and then what else are we going to see if it's the beautiful weather day in interlocking. I'm glad you asked because that's what I want to talk. So when it's beautiful weather which hopefully you can check some weather apps and get good luck with the weather. You should go to. In this area. The Bernice Highlands area. There's a lot to do all accessible from interlocken book directly next to Interlocken you. Have Grendel Brindell Louder Brunton and then young frail. Yuck and so these three years. I'd say the big names in the area and I'll say that louder broaden is again maybe one of my top places in Switzerland it really is very striking. There is waterfalls all along the cliffs and it is think this has been talked about before as well it is a little bit like Yosemite Valley in terms of how it looks and you can take a walk from the actual town of Lauder Brunton through the valley. It's about an hour and a half and I think that's a fantastic experience even if you're not someone who wants to go. Hiking walking walking through that area is really spectacular. It's not like it's a national park. There's farms and houses along that path of the people hurting cows down it you'll also see louder Brennan's also known for extreme sports in Interlocken in general in extreme sports haven so you'll see people base jumping doing wing suit suit flights when it's nice weather which is very cool to see and once you get to the end of this walk you can go up to the village of Marin which is on the cliffs above Louder Brennan Essentially on the other end of the valley there and you can get up there for free again. This is one of the cable cars that is free free with the travel pass and you can go from there up to the shelter which is a restaurant on top of peace. Gloria and that has spectacular views of the three big mountains in the region which are the The march. I don't know if you know the German. That's I don't know how to spell it went so no I do. We'll pretend it's right and that young failure. It said that from the top on a nice day that you can see into the black forest Germany. I was there on a nice that day and I tried really hard to tell what I was seeing was left for Germany. I don't know how people can realistically claim if they seat or not. But if that gives you an idea of how far you can see from up there and the kind of views that await you once you get to the very top and also you can go to grill I guess ladder buttoning print the wall to collect the twin twin villages in this area. You go in Interlocken and that area also has beautiful mountains surrounding it and I think a big highlight there is going up either hiking or to kill up to which is the mountain top where you overlook all of Grindelwald and the mountains surrounding it and that's a very beautiful area especially when no and I think when there's a lot of snow it's really an amazing sight to see all these mountains so close to you just card and snow and there's also maybe maybe people have seen photos of this? They have famous skyline walk their cliff. Walk where it's a little glass walkway. That goes okay Out over the voice issues and also if you hike back about an hour from fierce again very easy hike. This is a touristy area There is by Copsey which is a beautiful lake. There that reflects the mountains in it. That's another great site. which if you take the time to go an our from where the cable car takes you where most of the tourists are probably staying? You can really get a different view still busy But less crowded and the one thing to note about this is. I don't know if this is unusual experience. I was there in early. June in there was actually so much snow there still that. You couldn't even do that hike and I think that this last winter Switzerland had gotten a lot of snow so maybe it's not always impassable in June but that's something to consider when planning your vacation if you really WanNa go hiking not I just going to the top of the cable cars which is still running. You might need to go beginning of July mid-july just to make sure that the snow is melted. Although I think it was in unusually heavy winter if you're even more adventures there's a six hour hike but it's very flat for the most part from I I too. She Nico Plaza. which is another mountain top train station in the area? You can do this in either direction and that will also also take you on a Ridge where you look down on one side and he grinned a weld and the mountains there or over the other side you see lake brands and you see the Brienza Roth Horn mountain and you have this beautiful dual view on this very easy hike just for most of the way and that's fantastic. That's very nice spot in and I think a lot of people when they talk about this area the hear about young Oh yeah because it is very heavily marketed. People call it the top of Europe which to note. It's the highest train station in Europe. Right so don't fall for their marketing. So but it is. It is nice pretty expensive. It's not something that you get free travel pass but if you can go when it's nice weather and you really want to do something. That is the jewel in your your trip to Switzerland Elon. I'd recommend it however because it is very expensive if you're trying to plan a trip where you're worried about Oceana. Go here here based on cost I would. I would say it's not a necessary thing to go. Do you still can get amazing views for a much cheaper price going elsewhere in the area in the in in the country so what I will say for Hugo too young fair. Yuck if you go up from Grindelwald you can take a cable car from there to mention again. The pronunciation for me isn't it. Maybe but that is the mountain in the center between Latter Brennan Valley. Griswold so you overlook on both sides of you essentially this whole area with young behind you so you have mazing three three sixty view of the area from there and then you walked about an hour and fifteen minutes to clash today which is the You're tickets checked by your tickets to go up in the train to young. Yuck and so if you do it in that way you get to add add on a little bit of extra sightseeing instead of just rushing up too young for yacht right at the beginning of the day because there's a lot of trains going. It can be tough if it's hi season there. There may be an issue with preserving tickets. You're trying to buy them day of but I was able to buy them day of near at the beginning of August which is probably near the height of tourist season. I would imagine so you can still definitely do that in kind of improvised that trip just based on the weather's looking nice and then when you this has been covered before on the show so I won't talk about exactly what there is young but one thing I'll mention dish into into the shops and this little fun park with sledding and zip line and Golfing. There's an hour long walk. You can do to a mountain hut through the snow and even though this is an hour long walk. It was actually strangely difficult. Because you walking through snow is on a slight incline aligned for this this hike and it was very slippery so it was warm. I generally have never had issues with altitude sickness. Oh you're pretty high up so okay. Maybe you don't want to do something super strenuous but really it was slippery so get away from where all the people are a little bit you get beautiful views Over the Aletsch glacier which is quite young frau overlooks down on one side. And you can see people actually climbing up to the very top of the mountain Very cool to see if you do this and then you can high tail it back down to the train station there. Run Back Down and then I'll recommend event when you're heading back down to take a train from Klein should to louder Brennan. And when you do this hopefully at this right Chimera condition sit on the left side in the direction of travel of do it like that. You'll have an amazing view. Going down over lodder Brennan Earned Valley. She can't really get from anywhere else as you're going from clenched to Langan you'll have this amazing view of ladder. Brennan as you go down in another thing to note is in this area a lot of the trains that go right up to the top amounts are extra because it's a private company. Trust your your travel pass won't cover those trains but you'll still get half off and one thing again about taking the trains and buses is they're all self check check so it's not like for example the TA in Boston where you have to swipe your card on the bus as your comment right. It's just expected that you will have bought a ticket ticket and then checks random. You can expect an longer. Train rides are more popular ones. People always be checking. But it's expected that you'll have had a ticket and if they check you they will not normally let you buy a ticket. Maybe you're a tourist. Let you get away with at once. The Lamont issue but on these trains. Because there's so many people and it's a little bit confusing about which ones you need to pay for if you don't by the ticket before you don't have it the by the next stop we're on the train so it's a little bit is more expensive getting around in that sense in confusing. But you don't have to worry as much if you haven't bought the correct ticket. Echoes normally can bite on train. I think for that covers the louder Brun young fro Grindelwald area but also nearby mentioned you can see overlake Horn and that's a beautiful mountain and on the other side of Lebron's where you can get a cog wheel steam powered train up to the top and this is something that I did with my mom when she came with me and I showed her around and she loves this. I think this is something that people will really enjoy joy if maybe you're not as into intensity. There's a lot of hiking that you can do from this mountain but is great view over the lakes there and it's a fun train ride and it's pretty expensive except you can get half off with the travel pass and then I believe believe if you go on the first train of the day which is eight thirty or so you get another half off so can actually make a pretty cheap experience. And and it's actually. I'd say better to go in the morning because it is a popular attraction and the small train so it can get pretty crowded and it won't be as Nice because you won't have the freedom to be on the sides of the train and look out at the views and I. This is something I would actually recommend to do when there. If you're there air maybe early June in there still snow. This is something I would do because the view with snow on the mountains. I think I did it once in the beginning of summer. Wants the end for a hike in then I think the view snow really makes it special sauce. Definitely something when it hasn't all melted away to go check Out and then also in the Bernice Highland area which is the greer area. That interlocken is situated. These are a little bit further but the the other day trip options from interlocken and that is either going to let glacier which is what you see see from top of young Frau but you can go into a hikes Above it or actually go down to it and believe there may be guided tours of it as well. That's a really impressive sight because the glacier it's hard to even comprehend how big it is because it fills up an entire the valley and unless you think of it that way you're like okay. I'm seeing it from really high up. How big is this? Is it like a river but it's it's gigantic. It really fills up this huge amount of space and there's really nice controls they were. You have used going where you can see into the Wallace region Of Switzerland which is where the matterhorn is soup have used all these four thousand plus meter mountains off in the distance and to really spectacular tacklers than another one of my favorite areas. Is You can go to you. I know my pronunciation for this Cochran. So it's Ocean NC Rotea. Oh that's pretty good a- Ocean NC would be what I would come come up with his. Well okay excellent. Well that's good to know because I think for a while as pronouncing it incorrectly and then someone I think they were trying very politely. Told me eight that I was wrong about it but you can go to. The train. Stop would be candor stag that's the area where the Lakers. And you can take a cable car up. Or it's a short hike. Maybe our Gravelly switch-backs gets the lake in. There is a a restaurant there. You can get a rowboat into out onto the lake. But what makes is this so striking. I mean there's a lot of lakes in Switzerland that are spectacular in lots of mountain lakes. But this one is pretty big and also so immediately around it on essentially all sides are huge mountains that shoot up right from the edge of it and so it's this very very imposing looking lake with these mountains. There's waterfalls all around it you can do something called the Panorama trail which is pretty easy. Easy hike which takes you above the lake and you have review of it. If you're lucky in the water doesn't have too much. I think maybe when it rains there's some dirt which makes water a little cloudier that runs off into it. But if you go and you're lucky you have this beautiful reflection of all the mountains in the lake. It's very still great place. We skip rocks as well. I had a lot of fun doing that for a day. Skipping rocks across Youthful Mirror Lake and you can do it with hiking but it can also be very relaxing trip. After you've gone through all these tourist sites and done all the hiking around interlock and you can go there and and kick back and it's very very nice one thing I want to say before we get too far away from the glacier the glacier is would you see pictures of this. You'll see that it has stripes. Going down has black stripes three black stripes in the middle of it and those are are medial marines. The sets of rock that are being carried down the valley on the glacier and what that means when you see three is you know that there are basically further up the valley there are four different glaciers that merged to form this one large glacier to glaciers will merge you'll end up with women are these musial marines in between the ice from one of the ice from another so just something to amaze your friends with as you're standing there looking at the glacier. I I had to explain. I don't think I could get that technical because I mostly had to explain when my mom's pictures of it that they weren't infect roads going on the glacier that is correct or not rosie the specific mountain. They're just so you have referencing. 'cause it's a big glacier so you you can go to different parts but if you go to his horn I believe it is E. G. G. I guess Horn Excellent that's where you can go in really be. We've right at the top of the overview of this glacier Don Where you see the bend in it as well so you have this really interesting you point where hers and fills is up a lot of your panoramic picture and then from interlocking again? There is right behind interlocken. You have the neater Horn which is another mountain which is very nice. It's not a huge mountain but when you're at the top you're overlooking both lakes there you're overlooking the interlock walk and also the mountains of young crowd in the distance. That's another easy hiking option. A lot of people actually go off from the top of that mountain to do paragliding gliding and hair sailing stuff like that excellent. We're going to need to Dr to wrap this up. We're going for our all time record for length of episodes you. You put burn on the itinerary things you WANNA say about. Burn before we wrap this up with a rep question. Sure so I'll say that then as you're going back to Cirque for your flight I can go through. Burn is you're going from interlocken to burn sit on the left side of the train and the direction of travel after you go through speeds. If if when you're going from interacting species sit on the right so the train switch sides there because when he pulled into the burn train station the views of the mountain over the ours ars the river that goes through. It are really amazing. Once you're in the city and that's a beautiful view and burn itself has a great old town. Switzerland doesn't in have an official capital technically but burn his where all government administrative stuff happens so they have essentially. They're nice government buildings there and then you can go on the river and I won't that can be a whole episode on its own but swing through. Burn if you have a day check check it out as you head back to work and you won't be disappointed. It's a very nice city. I took a scooter tour with one of the people whose jobs it is to wind up the famous clock tower every day and that was a fantastic experience. So Burns definitely something I would recommend doing. I think I think that covers the itinerary stuff but hopefully it's a lot of ideas for where to go well. I appreciate some of the specifics to that. You gave us us to wrap up though and this is going to be a hard one. You're standing in the prettiest spot in Switzerland where he is standing anyone looking at so I would say now. This is tricky because I think I named four five favorite spots you did I think at Santa's which again east absurd right on the border of Austria looking over not from the very top of scientists but halfway up the hike there you have beautiful views over that lake. I think that is a fantastic place to go hiking excellent. We have managed to talk about Switzerland without talking about melted cheese fees which I think is surprising fun. Do obviously what they're known for. Though that's more of technically traditionally more of a winter dish but also rick late and other things any any other food suggestions. You WanNa give for Switzerland in general before we finish sure so say two suggestions real quick one is. It's sent this essentially mountain Mac and cheese and it's very simple dish but it's interesting because you can put apple sauce on it too soon enough. I think that's traditional thing. That's it's done with it and that's a nice to. She can get at a lot of the mountain restaurants then also a lot of places you can get. I don't know if there's really a specific term term for the dish but an appetizer of dried meats from the local area. Okay so this could include a venison different pork type type products and that is always very nice to have with cheese or some bread. Excellent one thing that makes you laugh and say only in Switzerland I would. I'd say that when I go hiking and I think I'm all alone. I haven't seen anyone else on the trail and I turned the corner and all of a sudden. There's a restaurant at the top of the mountain and there's a crowd of people there. There's no cable car in the whole area so I have no idea where all these people came from because I didn't see any of them hiking. There's there's a restaurant 'cause I need to refill my water and I'll go hang out with people but you'll really be surprised. By the level of infrastructure. They have for trails for restaurants Johnson cable cars in the mountains so slot and if you had to summarize Switzerland in just three words I don't know if beautiful is too generic but will start with. Is that that works. I'll say diverse as well. Because it's such a plethora of things you can do in activities you can do and then also accessible because it's safe. It's easy to get around. Even though English is one of the official languages there you you can get by on it and it just makes it a great place to travel. Excellent guest again has been Zach. Best Zach. Thanks so much for coming on amateur traveler. Learn sharing with us your love of Switzerland. Thank you very much for having me and thank you for bearing with me for the whole episodes. Oh I hope you enjoyed that as much as I did but it has been a longer episode and so we're going to bring to an end if you have any questions sent an email to hosted amateur mature traveller dot com or better yet. 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Interview with Crime Writer Sandra Woffington: S. 6, Ep. 10
"I have this crime kathy. Your podcasting source of rape crime. Suspense and thriller writing. I'm your host. Debbie mac before i bring on my guest. I'll just remind you that. The crime cafe has to e books for sale. The nine book box set and the short story anthropology. You can find the by links for both on my website. Deputy mac dot com under the crime. Cafe link you can also get a free copy of either book if you become a patriot supporter. You'll get that and much more if you support the podcast on patriae on along with our eternal gratitude for doing so i would also like to recommend stitcher premium. If you're a fan of podcasts. If you like true crime or crime fiction there are loads of podcasts. Out there for you. And with stitcher premium you can listen to the exclusive fives from criminology or bonus episodes from true crime garage. You can also listen ad free. Two episodes of your favorite podcasts. I've subscribed for only four ninety nine a month. It's nice to have ad free entertainment. Just go to stitcher dot com slash premium and use the promo code crime cafe. That's one word all caps to try it out absolutely free for a month with me. Today is author. Who along with her wine valley mystery series has written a standalone set in saudi arabia and the middle rape fantasy book. Both of which have been short-listed for awards. Her winedown industries are also available in a box. Set that became a number white amazon bestseller upon. Its release that is amazing. I'm pleased to have with me today. Author sandra waddington. Hi sandra how are you doing today. I debbie i'm good. Thank you from fighting me to the crime cafe. I'm happy to be here. And i wanted to tell you. I love your intro music. It really sets the mood for crying. Thank you so much. Yeah because i happened to find this music. I don't know if it was on the mac or were through youtube. But i hadn't find this. That's just perfect perfect. Well thank you. Thank you very much and thanks for being with us at some point a new sit down and figure out how many authors come on here who have traveled to interesting places because i seem to be collecting them. It was after you married the moves to saudi arabia. Was your husband correct yet. He was already there. We actually wild story. But i was on a tour of europe for a month in. I was twenty one and i met him in a disco in lucerne switzerland. He was there on business from saudi arabia. Even though he was american. And then i went back to california. He went back to riyadh saudi arabia. And then we got to know each other through letters and Met once in new york which was about halfway and then decided to marry and then i moved to saudi arabia. Mr quite a change for you First novel that you worked on there. That was your first novel and was yes. It was cold unveiling yes it was. I think what travel does for you at twenty one it was. It was almost during rhonette because one of my favorite books growing up or the stories of thousand one arabian nights with a latin in sinbad and magic. And also the wit. You know outsmart outsmarting each other with the characters and i felt like i landed there it literally when i was there during the period of the oil boom around nineteen of nine and It was still camels in the desert. I look riyadh today. And it's a fast paced city but it was quickly disappearing and I was fortunate enough to me survey of been zagre who is a renowned saudi female artist. She actually has opened a school and museum in a judah which is on the coast and she inspired that story because she was in her art she tries to capture what she saw as her traditions and culture quickly disappearing I saw that too. They were beautiful. Mutt still mud houses. Antastic mud mud buildings with balconies and They were all being torn down and then european visions of beauty and marble shiny marble. Were being put up. And when we took her out to see some ruins of that she might be interested in painting. She took off her veils and wool and she had her niece with her And it dawned on me that she's an artist and she needs her eyes and yet she lives in this world where she has to fail and That inspired my story In my mic character. Sarah is in artist and she is trying to also capture her traditions and yet she's also rebelling against them which i witness while i was there to that No matter where you go in the world it changes over time and so saudi arabia's a case in point today how now have one of the biggest women's universities in the world fascinating It interesting in chose this type of person as your protagonist reading from a different perspective at different cultural perspective. You said you did a lot of research on this How much research did you do before you wrote the book i will. I will tell you to fencing. I learned through. The writing of this book is that you can also get lost in research. I spent probably a few years. And i read. Original accounts of travelers. To richard burton was one or several others that actually traveled in arabia from the eighteen hundreds forward and of course living there helped and I was so driven to riot the story. I was terrified at the same time. Because as you mentioned to presume that i could write from the perspective and the authentic with a saudi voice. I and a story was terrifying. But i really really wanted to write it and i remember thinking to when i landed in arabia. I wanted people to see the country and the struggles of saw because it doesn't exist anymore. It's already gone so I i did after. I did lots of research i wrote it. I gutted twice. And i was prepared to throw it away. I just had to write. Maybe for me. And if i couldn't be authentic but i was very fortunate when i was finished that i looked for a reader and found lena carmody who was wonderful. She taught at the university of riyadh for years. She earned her degree in arabic Master screen arabic literature. So i could not have found a better reader and she happened to be in california not far from me so she took on the task of reading it and I was probably never more nervous about any book i've ever written. And she loved it and that was she did help me. She pointed out a few things but she was actually she. She actually said. Thank you for writing. This is not meant a lot and that would did. Come in as a Semi area honorable mention for the writers digest self published book awards. Which again was just really made my day to. that's fantastic. That's really great. You can't ask for much higher praise than that right right right. You've also written the worrier watchers saugus series about seven adolescents and each them has some kind assistance challenge. Thought that was interesting. Job of saving the world. Do they have to stop the Seven ancient gates of evil from opening and Down that book was also inspired by A real individual In teaching. I also teach middle school at a small private school montessori school. I had in my class one year. A young man who was high functioning autistic and i think changed oliver world's at year including his. He had the first birthday party. My students were so nurturing of trying to just incorporate him in everything they did. He had his first birthday party on his mom. Told me with the whole class went. But i realized i like to use the word differently abled and in all of my you know no matter it. That's what i see in the world and so not only did i want to create a book that was about diversity but also want about how everybody needs. Heroes and i don't think there are enough books out there I've read a lot of literature to i. On the different label types of books and their law. A lot about overcoming difficulties instead of about the uniqueness of individual people so in this series which is really funny twenty takes place in a different mythological underworld the first one is hades charteris. So it's the greek mythology the one. I'm just finishing now Evil here's takes place in the japanese and chinese mythological world and what's fun though is each of these characters because of their unique abilities it almost in it ends up being a bit of a superpower that it's something that they can do for example mirrors blind and in one scene. He saves the day. Because that's a skill set that That proves useful in that particular setting So that's that's that series is very dear to my heart coming from the well extensions. Sounds wonderful because you know it really emphasizes how just because you lack one ability doesn't mean you can't make up for it with others exactly. My student is still the same student. I still tutor him occasionally and he's now junior college so yes we can all. We all have roller part of the world. We all have skill sets. We can use that. So what prompted you. Drink crime novels set in the wind valley. Yes so That that I love murder mysteries for one thing. I've grown up on. You know all of agatha christian. Christie's perot midsomer murders. You name it. If there is a murderer murder she wrote. I have grown up with it and i've always loved genre and again it's interesting when you set out as an author because that was genre. I decided i wanted to write. I was still nervous. It's one thing to watch a lot of mysteries and read them. But it's another to sit down and write them so I do live in southern california. So wind valley is based upon the temecula region. Except of course it's all fictional and it's been a great locale because we have you know you have the beach not far away My two main characters. I really love. They've they just keep going with with me in our people We have detective. Max king and dr joy burton and their complete opposite. Max is launched blue eyed hunk. And they're both twenty six. When the book starts in They turned twenty seven and dr joy. Burton who is a forensic psychologist is the opposite. She's the dark noir character I like to say that. If wednesday addams grew up and became friends at psychologist she would be dr joy burton. In fact wednesday out on is her Sort of alter ego. I guess you would say and the funding thing with this series is that even though they're a standalone murder for each one which is unique there is a subplot which is that maximum joy. discover dat They are in fact fraternal twins and they have the same mother but two separate fathers. There's fun of research that really can happen. And when they were three and a half their house exploded and they were Adopted by two separate longmen David came becomes the chief of police the wind valley and his adopted by sam burton. Who was an fbi agent and when the story starts after So they grew up apart and then after the fathers die within a few months of one another joy finds clues. Lead her to max and start working together because she's the forensic psychologist in her detective and so she stays wind valley and that's so. Yeah it's it's a fun series. Now that's really interesting so each book is like a different mystery but there's this over keen um storyline between the two protagonists correct. Yes and that will eventually come to a head and all will be revealed and then and then it will go on just more as a you know more of a straight up murder mystery from that point forward Really interesting Do you have a plan in terms of how many books you'd like to write for that series. I just wanna keep reading this series So i did put the two prequels of max. Enjoy a pond on the blog. That you that you have. And then i will just keep going the next one. I'm starting on his for scotty and fratricide so it's always the name of a wine and then And then a murderer or a bona warren blood. Something like that mayor low and murder. Nah but i'll keep going so the book that i'm working on also right now for that series is another prequel and it's called grand crew and gangs that is Joys boyfriend wind valley is officer read steel and so it's his prequel that takes place in los angeles in He's a gang unit in los angeles and that book is going into a box set with eighteen other authors. That i'm. I'm really excited about of always wanted to do this. i met through Not physically met but met judith. Lucci wonderful author and she's been in sets before. I was always intrigued. So a friend and i started a authors group called dead authors. That's for dark edgy and dangerous. So there's there's no cosies and through that group we have about eighty authors now About eighteen wanted to be seventeen plus me wanted to be in the box set. And so we the trittin a new story It's going to go into called the dead silent. Ach set collection. And i think what's really fun about able to do. This is that it gives readers an opportunity for ninety nine cents. The whole set is ninety nine cents to sample a lot of different authors and maybe find a few new ones that they like And the author. Snus group fantastic. It's judith lucci. Fiona quinn. Stephen moore doubt dan. Petrous seaney Michelle mad how'd is just a. It's a fantastic group. But it is a limited edition soul may be It'll be it's out on preorder now on wide channels and then it will be ninety nine cents through the first week of release january nineteenth and then after that it goes. It'll beach exclusive to amazon for ninety nine and then after six months the whole set disappears. We all get our books back. And we distribute them separately. So it's a fantastic opportunity for readers wanting to sample a lot of authors at one time it is. That's fantastic. that's radia. Let's see you mentioned feeling terrified I know that feeling. Because i'm been reading about a female marine and i've never been marine subculture in itself. Did you too. I tried where. I could talk to people who were in the military and who had some sort of connection with the marines as much as possible. Right i i hadn't really hard time finding anybody to read stuff. I did mench get a few people who would come back with the few comments but it was never like. They didn't read the whole story and l. felt late. I don't know what i do have to you know. Take whatever i read. I read lots of books about women in the military or in the marines bones. Right it was just extrapolating from what i read what little i could gather talking to people but the good news is. You're you're doing it anyway. I think that's what inspires us we get that story and you do tell it. Tell it about the female marine which is awesome. I find with the murder mystery series. I'm always learning new things. I start with character and building characters but You know one would. But i want character is a snake melker. I didn't know anything about about that. The yugo research in you. And then you fill in the gap somehow trying to make it as real as paul possible. Exactly i mean at some point human nature to accent and you kind of understand what they might do in a situation that kind of thing exactly. I think that's where the research really pays off or or reading as you said about an actual account that does pay off i. That's why start with character in my stories until that character becomes real to me. Then i don't feel like i i can write them. I know they're dialogue for example macs joy. They they've evolved so even though they didn't weren't raised together they sometimes joke almost like there were children because they didn't have that time together and so they fall into this. You know thing with puns Going back and forth and then at other times they're they're very opposite but you're always learning more about each character's you go along too. I mean i didn't know anything about forensic psychology either. And she's a forensic psychologist so the fun thing i have been able to do is with each book She teaches one night a week as well. And so i'll try to build in a scene where she gives a lecture in always ties into the case Might be one time about serial killers or might be about interrogation techniques or something that something that ties in. Yeah yeah and How do you push pass that feeling of terror Helps you with that. I think just jumping in and writing it particularly. I can go back to unveiling a said. I get it twice and but i learned a lot. One thing was the research the next thing is to i. I should have spent probably more time on character on the specific character. That would have helped so that helps me push. Pass it when i feel like i really know who this character is. I feel that i can write them. I've gotten better with research to arrive. Was saying i got lost in it before. He spent so much time on research and i realized at one point i think was using researches and escape because i can go research more instead of writing the story but as you know at some point you have to sit down and need to going to do it. You're going to you have to write this story and finally to myself. I said you need to either do this or stop talking about it. And so. I sat down and i wrote it and I cut it and then. I rewrote it and then i get it but now i don't waste time because one thing i learned in that is the character analysis portion. You still learn things as you go. And then the other thing i've learned is research I research before. I write a book which helps if i if it's pinot noir empoisoned for example i researched poisons so that i knew what was going to be involved in the story line and that helped but now what a getting it getting in finding what i need in getting out. I don't get lost in the research. Go find what i need and say. Oh yeah that's it that's perfect and sometimes you find those lovely kernels that you can't wait to put in a book that are surprises for the reader as well and then you move forward and you just keep writing i to write three to five thousand words as a goal for each day of my writing days and so that that just helps me. Keep going forward I was fortunate. Enough longtime ago. I got into a class taught by saul stein was a private little group and i always remember. He said you have to get to the end. he said. then you can start re you writing but You you have to get to the end of the story and just write it Yet you just have to start. That's what i always tell people. It's like just start no matter how you start. Even if it's just writing in a journal to start and just turn off the editing side of the brain and just let it flow. Just let the characters talk capture the scenes therein Is love it when characters surprise me because they do something in a scene i hadn't planned that is just fun but They do they take off on their own. And that's one it becomes very real very true very very true You took some really amazing photos. I thought that the camel races in saudi everything of selling stock. He just out of curiosity. I hadn't yeah. I don i do have a few pictures from that time Yeah i mean i. I hadn't asked an interesting idea. I could put a few up. i have another one. yeah. I have another one. i took. Oh we used to. I learned how to dive in the red sea which was fabulous and we would go out at night. night diving at which which is kind of scaring. I did want see in my flashlight. Beam black tip sharks so that was a fun experience and i so i got a picture. That guy sounds like. You've done some fantastic traveling. That would make an interesting subject for for book. Have you saw about bad. You know. I think travel does come back in in my In all of the books it does come back for sure or in the words watcher saga series. Even though i think the one that doesn't take place in probably wind valley not one minutes civic locale but With teaching every year one thing. I liked that my school has has always done is to try to plan a in urine trip for the children. This year was different but they fundraise all year long because we want them to be empowered. We want we don't want a hand them things. We want them to be empowered to learn that the world is they can go anywhere they can go see the world and we encourage that so it's one thing to teach the students about the rainforest and then to take them on a trip to costa rica where their zip lining through the canopy and learning about it firsthand so yet travel. I haven't thought about travel writing per se. But i do find that exotic locales do come into into the warriors watcher saga series and different diverse cultures as well one book will play take place in india for example. So that's the books move around and fantastic. Rabble had didn't travel this year. But i still love to travel. There are a couple of places. I'd like to still see in the world a me too for sure. Let's see and addition dish into the project. You have going in terms of the Is it sent yet at the outset. What advice working on now. I am working on just finishing the editing for here which is the second book in the mythological fantasy series and then i have already outlined. Done my character studies for for scotty in fratricide which will be number. Eleven in wind valley mystery series. Now they just chamblee already. It seems like every time i turn around. I've gotta get a few more titles and book covers. Which is my gosh. Wow you're prolific. That's great working on it. that's fantastic. That's a good thing. Is there anything else you'd like to say before we finish up. Oh no. I can't think of anything just i just again want to say. Thank you for providing this show. I am a fan of mystery. Cafe the the crime cafe and love. The i've been listening myself to all the different authors. I learn a lot. I think that's one thing that is an author where always learning to from other from other authors and people. I totally agree with you there totally. I've learned so much just for doing this. Show seriously. i really appreciate your being here today. Sandra thanks so much. it don't forget everyone. Sandra has a book giveaway. Three kindles. happy's of books went through four of a wine valley mysteries in boxed sets. So there you go Winner will be selected on december twentieth. So check my guest blog. Post check Guest on my blog for details. And if you're a fan outcast please consider leading review and checking out our perks caitriona on for supporters. Just good my website. Be mac dot com for details. Thank you so much for your time and attention and in two weeks our guests will be dana. Hanes stay sates and happy
Ludwig van Beethoven. Works for solo piano.
"Hello and welcome to Naxos podcast I'm Raymond Boucher. In this podcast, I'll give you an introduction to Beethoven's music for Solo Keyboard. He wrote enough. Keyboard Music to fill twenty albums so this is necessarily a brief introduction. But along the way. I'll give you a few comments and stories about the history surrounding the music. The music itself while it speaks for itself and doesn't need explanation for me. Here's a bit more of the second. Movement of Sonata Number Twenty seven with pianist Geno Yondo. Beethoven once wrote. Music is a higher revelation. All wisdom and philosophy music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives thinks and invents. And if anyone has written music, that is a revelation. It's Beethoven. He pushed music further than anyone before him, the emotional depth the musical ideas. And this is particularly true in his thirty two piano Sonatas. And some of the other pieces he wrote for pianos well. He explored the musical universe through the instrument. He knew best the piano. Here's the opening of his Sonata Number Twenty one titled The Vault Stein because. It is dedicated to count feldstein one of Beethoven's early patrons when he was still living in Bonn Germany. India. Several of Beethoven, Sonatas, have titles or names beyond the key and their number. There's the volt Stein's, and of course and the Hammer Clavier, and sometimes these titles had nothing to do with Beethoven. Take his piano Sonata. Number Fourteen Beethoven wrote in the Music Sonata, quasi owner, fantasia, or Sonata, almost a fantasy, which is straightforward enough. It wasn't until five years after Beethoven's death that German. Music critic said parts of the Sonata reminded him of Moonlight Shining on Lake Lucerne. and. It became the Moonlight Sonata and whether or not that name makes sense. It stuck. Here is a bit of the final movement of that Sonata fast and honestly not very moonlighting. That was from Beethoven's Piano Sonata. Number, fourteen. His Piano Sonata Number Twelve was composed sometime around eighteen o one, and it's dedicated to Prince Karl. Von Leash Noski who had been Beethoven's patron for five years at that point, he even provided Beethoven with an annual income. Beethoven wrote that Listener Ski was one of my most loyal friends and promoters of my art. Beethoven Unleash Noski ended up having a huge argument which put an end to their friendship. But here's the opening of piano. Sonata number, twelve back when Beethoven. The prints were still friends. The pianist is Hungarian pianist Geno Yondo. That was from Piano Sonata, number twelve. Composed his Piano Sonata Number Twenty at about the same time as he composed sonatas foreign five, but he didn't publish it until much later, so it was given a much higher number. This is the kind of confusion that keeps musicologists awake at night. The rest of us get to sleep well and enjoy the music. From that Sonata here's the beginning of the first movement. There are several different definitions of the word Bagatelle. It can be something of little value or importance a trifle as some people sometimes say a mere Bagatelle. Or can be short and like musical composition typically for the piano. Over the years, Beethoven published twenty six Bagatelles, and while they may be short and light. They're definitely more than a trifle. Here is a bit of bagatelle number one in e flat major once again. Yondo is the pianist. Beethoven's Bagatelles number one. The pianist featured in this podcast. Is You know Yondo? All the recordings featured in this podcast, and all of my Beethoven podcasts this year. are included in a giant Beethoven box from access ninety albums with over one hundred hours of music. It's the really really complete Beethoven. Enough listening for a lifetime. The catalog number for that box is eight point five zero zero to five zero. To go out here is the ending of Beethoven's Rondo Capriccio, so in g major, which has the title rage over a lost penny? But it's not real rage. It's more like mock anger. As Robert Schumann once wrote. It would be difficult to find anything merrier then this piece it is the most amiable and harmless anger, and here's how it sounds once again with Geno Yondo at the keyboard.
What's happening in Pennsylvania?
"Hi i'm imprac host of axios recap. We are back with our special axios election. Twenty twenty coverage what we're watching is what's happening in pennsylvania which many people think will be the tipping point state for president trump or former vice president biden with me. Is emily previti reporter for w. f. an npr station in pennsylvania. And she's on the ground in luzern county which in two thousand sixteen went for president trump by twenty points after election after election going for democrats. So emily you're in luzerne county pennsylvania northeastern pennsylvania. What are you so far seeing on the ground in terms of turnout. Enthusiasm all the above. So we're seeing high turnout in lisburn and across the state based on what i've heard from my colleagues elsewhere and i'm getting a pretty even mix of registered democrats and republicans and even fewer unaffiliated voters. But some of those well. We have a better idea of who's voted by mail. As of yesterday the pennsylvania department of state data showed there are about two and a half million ballot have been returned and received by counties and of those nearly one point six million were sent by democrats around five hundred fifty six thousand by republicans so definitely a heavier. Turn out by mail by democrats. Those of us who are outside of pennsylvania how we should watch the results coming in tonight so for example as you said a lot of these ballots. None of the mail in ballots could be opened until today in pennsylvania will a precinct say in lisburn county or in philly or in pittsburgh. Will they report the quote on the ground numbers without yet reporting the absentee. Will they wait until they have a full count from their precinct. It depends on the county. And i know that some county is most of those that have a relatively small number of registered voters. I think the largest is cumberland with a hundred and eighty seven thousand and it goes down from there to one county. That has about two registered voters. There are several that are not even starting until tomorrow to count anything and so county is will post tonight tonight and then the plans for updating those numbers they usually do that at the end of the day is counting if we're to base it on practices during the primary which again was really the first one that substantial numbers of voters cast ballots by mail in pennsylvania and the only election that we have for a basis of comparison. So when i watch tv tonight and it says luzerne county reports. One candidate is up by ten points. There's a pretty good chance that that won't be the actual number when all of a sudden done correct what the environment been like in lucerne in those areas these kind of these trump heavy areas of pennsylvania in terms of both political ads but also conversation. This is a national election and these are very divisive figures to a certain extent are their local issues that are also at play here that are informing the national so. I'm not hearing that from people. I'm hearing people who support the president. Say that they like the way that you know what. He's done for veterans. They like the way that he handles foreign policy that they think the best hope for economic improvement would be another four years of a trump presidency and honestly a lot of people who support biden. When you ask them why it's basically that he's not the president and then they have critiques of the president to share. So i'm not hearing a lot of pennsylvania's specific hyper local issues. From voters as far as dictating their choice for president. You get a sense that they feel that their vote. This year in this election matters more perhaps than their votes have in the past because so many people seem to think the outcome is going to rest on. What pennsylvania does no one's really indicated that they've just sort of some people comment oh all eyes are pennsylvania but it doesn't really seem to be something they're thinking about too much. It seems that they like everyone else are just very curious to know what the final outcome is going to be aren't so concerned with whether voters elsewhere are going to be paying a lot of attention to pennsylvania. Emily final question for you. There have been some reports coming out today. Sources with trump campaign suggesting that they are at least a little bit disappointed by their. Get out the vote results in pennsylvania. You said you have seen good. Turn out strong turnout in lucerne. Which again is a red area. Is the turnout the in person turn out what officials locally were expecting it to be a little more less turnout his high everywhere but i also think election officials expected turn out to be high. I know that luzern did elect trump in two thousand sixteen has always been pretty even democrats register republicans. But they are actually. There are more democrats twenty thousand more democrats registered in luzerne county than republicans. It's one hundred six thousand democrats here and eighty six thousand republicans as of the latest statistics from the pennsylvania. Department of state. Emily previti thank you so much for taking the time. thanks big. thanks for listening. We'll be back soon with another special axios election. Podcast in the meantime please check out. Our website axios dot com or are axios mobile app for the election news.
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"Hello i'm dana tyler. Cbs news new york. Here are your headlines. Despite guidance from the centers for disease control and prevention other health professionals and from government leaders millions of americans are on their way to thanksgiving gatherings as coronavirus cases rise across the country but not as many people may be traveling. Ask i thought aaa says its initial projection of fifty million travelers off a more recent survey done in new jersey shows about eighty percent of people said they would stay home after all for the holiday. And it'll be a rainy thanksgiving holiday in our area. Line coin says the rain moves in wednesday night. The lowest fifty one there is a chance for heavy downpours. By thanksgiving morning the skies clear up thursday afternoon. A high of sixty one. A low of fifty degrees new covert restrictions are in effect for southern staten island after it was declared an orange zone. Indoor dining and non essential businesses like gyms and salons closed wednesday. A ten day. Stay at home. Advisory is in effect in newark new jersey mayor. Ross baraka is asking residents to only go out for essential needs and to avoid visiting relatives and friends in paramus. New drive through testing center opened wednesday at bergen community college. More than two hundred men living in temporary homeless shelter at a manhattan hotel are being forced to move out a judge ruled. The city can relocate the men from the lucerne hotel on the upper west side to the radisson hotel in the financial district. This comes after some upper west side residents raised complaints about safety and quality of life issues. Remember you can get your forecast and local news headlines twenty four seven streaming on. Cbs new york find on our website. Cbs york dot com or on the cbs news app. I'm dana tyler. Have a safe thanksgiving cbs news.
TC Talks EP14 Elitism
"Ladies and gentlemen we have returned. We have a writ earn. I'm hoping that. Rolls. Hispanic. You. Can Hear my is. Come anyway guys welcome in to another TC tokes. Thanks for listening accusing out there in the podcasts fear. How you doing welcome in and if you're watching, live on twitch or watching this fight welcome in. Thank you very much for spending time with us but guys. As, you can see on your screen with back to the. Terrible trio. have. An Echo. ECHO. WHO's echoing? He. I, think it might be. Going now. That's we it. That was really I. was I was in your is twice how did that feel that feel good. Magical I like it anyway to my left. which is right on the screen. Is My main man you hey, dense you. Know too bad lots of diy going on in house again last couple of days lots of things to sort this out to be my. Oh, you know be out over should say sounds good. That'd be good how you be. Survive in survive incident. So. Yeah. I think that's I think that's how we have to refer to things these days. Surviving I like. And bringing in the final. Person on the. PODCAST. You might see his picture down the bottom of the screen you might know is the bid. So he knots Jay I mean come on. Guys. How you. Doing we've been in the pool is going through right now. Going down a bit. I'm just letting you hear. I'm survive you'll survive in as well. I'm listening to Gloria Again I'm listening to Gloria. On an assessment for the assessment. He's handy. I should try it right? Okay. Let me just get in these volumes right The people listening because I just want to make sure that everybody is able to be heard on these podcasts so Hyper. That should be about right now. Music. Going to. Bring that up to about five percent, we're going to bring in people who never even gently into TC Tokes if you haven't listened to one about cost before basically we cover bay gaming news. Have a little bit of a chat with. The catch up and then we bring in offbeat. This week we all talking about elitism. What we will cover what we mean by Elitism, and then we'll just. About what we think about and and how always really. So first off usually to have a nice flashy graphic, glowing onscreen for you but of moved across to studio this week. So unfortunately. None graphics because I haven't done. Imagine. Okay Put, put you put up your mind on a margin this this news comes at Ya because. On the screen I see it comes that way ch-. and. There's no sound. that. Okay. Okay. This might sound but this is the new session Go straight into the news we'll We'll cover what we what we will be up to after the news she what we got in the news this week. So the one that caught my eye. You can. Classify Lou boxes as gambling. Tyne. Thank. God. Yeah loobox. They're difficult. One only because many different things. Blue Boxes. I would talk about Physical Lucerne saw for the best way we're not. We're not talking about the boxes of stuff you get with t shirt and a pop no as digital. Content. By. Packs and go pay money to these packs Mike Gate cards. The government's going to do is reclassified gum. Africa's done with four. A basically give skins away for fifty pounds. That's how they got away around. Seven these. This guy over you spend in high I, know people hadn't done for pounds on these cards get any. Combination. Is is gambling. We've just had silly wins and apis gaming come into the child and guys welcome in just covering the news. And then we'll be talking about them. So hang out. I'm not surprised with the holy boxes. Really I mean. Is a difficult subject because a lot of people do and people do a lot of money into these boxes? We hear all the time on the news. You've got like, Oh my my child. Spent fifteen, hundred pounds on. Fever points and stuff like that happens all the time but it also happens like apps on the phone stuff. But, yeah, it is well I hope. It be cool. Maybe we'll see some different thing is our most companies to two K MBA. Last game was essentially a Michael Transaction. that. was just that was basically a glorified casino game basically yes. Then, you'll really quite Mr Mr Ball. Was He thought it was that bad? Yeah. I think you need to move you closer to your mouth. Okay. Don't eat you might. Maybe bit normally. This is an. PODCAST by the way, if you hear Dan's voice. And you hear his. His sit down. As he gets to the MIC, it's not meant to be like that. I apologize however, if you are slightly aroused icon help you. Know. How Not Definitely. No even handed to. What's the new roles in music for twitch now do you know what we will? We will come to those as part of the news I think. Of a top knees if he got forest than the other, it's a bit of interest on. 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I'm going to stop until two three o'clock in the morning towards the Sony Confidence. Then, when I'm what the next day I'll catch up on the Bethesda one. I'll then I'll watch the PC one and then you go onto youtube and you're trying to chase down the different trailers of everything having it all set in the way that is i. think he just works really well, it's easier to digest his gigantic or kind of because there's a lot going on and everybody wants to show up to the rooftops they gave him and whatever else is coming out. So I kind of liked that this kind of. Freedom as well for the developers. Show be as Blase, that won't be. outlawed. Analysis, stuff who twitter and stuff. There's always events going over different things we don't so. The Internet say it's. Really Ian. Everybody loves the Internet full of wonderful people. Call. Yes. Don Does Talk. Unfortunately he doesn't want to sound of his voice on like certain of the F. member that I know. But he he just waits turn. Apply. To like, no, let him talk too much because you know I mean you know yourself once he gets going. No, chance. So but yeah no I I like the these gaming shows that they're really really ingenious gene ingenuity ingenious forever. Although have you heard the playstation five one is GonNa be ten you pay. The frames per second though their thing it there am. Limiting the bomb with the yeah. Basically and you know war I'm not actually surprised. Because a lot of people watching that see Magin the bandwidth it would take up if everybody was watching it. For K. or Do you know where they unit flom is owned service I have no idea to be honest. It wouldn't surprise me if they do it from. Like just a youtube ingest service and all that stuff. Yeah. They were expecting youtube to go down. But yeah. They have to because they expect people to watch. This is just people who are fans necessarily gave maybe. It's going to be loads of people people watch everybody is going to be watching Sonia point though most. Allow. Look. The highlights next. I. Was talking to what am I make toxic Quiz, this week. So it is the ninth anniversary of the first date with Joe this? She's working three shifts in the ninth anniversary of the first date. You know when you get married that trump's all. Right. So this Sunday as well. So he's not. Thursday. Myself Out. Of State. But you've you're married now you don't. Celebrate you first day? It means I can have a few days I have takeaways. I'm just GONNA look down at Dan for minute just to. You. Look. Around take a drug that you. Start Looking at plan, but I can just see my ceiling. You and moving up. Sponsored by wraith. I should. Should. Go huge. Codes. I have I have a discount code I have. Watched that Discount Code. The Discount Code is Thumb C. H. U.. N. B.. Entering the checkout for Hunky. Dunky. Lovely apparently currently if I'm more of. An important person in the community, I get fifteen percent code offsite. Matt. Very much for the host buddy I appreciate that I haven't got my on this screen because otherwise it would cover up shoes face. Exactly. Maybe people don't want to see. Is Upset. If we if we frame shoe right every time Simone Serbs. It pulls a mosque on him. Lemay Echo. That can be done. Shoe this way? Do you have this as well as my jingle work? Okay. There it is. Oh I need to put that in front of. The Guy. Behind. It looks Kuby. I knew eight dollars per lucky. Yeah I get it I get. Sound effect. Per Of. Iran boys. So anyway. tweets music twitch music does music is A. Needless to say an uproar to do with the twitch music and What twitch now doing so in a nutshell. I don't know if you've seen this at all. No I thought they had a bit of a thing where a muted music when it wasn't. Yes. So originally, what they did was if you had copyrighted music, so you could play any music. He wanted if system reconized that it was a copyright music mainstream media whatever they would your vaults yo videos on demand. Yeah. People like will ever will ever in the same way that Youtube does it if you get caught for copyright strike or something. That section. Obviously article fifty was that came in. That hosting about yes. You. Appeared Union was yet not came in two thousand and eighteen. Yeah but they've never went like proper prop the problem is it got brought into the system it got brought into everything. Nobody. Really took notice until now twitch have now basically turned around and said that if you are playing copyright music. And your call, you can get a corporate strike on your account when you're on your channel. Obviously three-strikes generally you're out. So. We'll. have. If I can find the darn thing. I am just going to try and find. The. Actual. Meat I was talking on. The discord group today. It might have been yesterday actually about it. and. There's a whole uproar about because obviously what they're saying is is that What people going to take people are starting to think that you can't even sing to yourself on your streams and things got a little extreme with it perhaps thinking. What the problem is is coming from A. Content Creator point of digital content creates a point of view. And my thoughts on our. If, you'll ruining money off you feel to. It's channel regardless of whether you do know like, for example us or devolve stuff stuffing offer overcharging. Everything's charing. So we don't earn anything but the with owning something. Why should we use them music or art work or something? To. Basically profit ourselves. You Know Thatcherism I guess. That's it. You know you could. I mean there's plenty of royalty free music how? which we? We have exactly which releasing right now this other stuff as well. You can find on Youtube and. Everywhere. And Basically people are now saying that what? So so they can't listen to something you can't sing the yourself apparently this is what people are worrying about. Obviously. You can't sink yourself because he's Acapella this no music people don't own the rights to your voice. Yeah. as long as you're not seeing him with trump or A. Video keys essentially. Yeah. The only. Caveat to that is obviously which things. which sings about seeing stars. Star doesn't exist anymore. This sort of. Twitch things I suppose is the one. Yet, but they've they've basically said that. Twitch things is okay to the era of some examples types of music that you may not use. Okay. So a radio style music listening show. So that's basically a twitch stream which focuses on playing music that's not owned by you and isn't licensed for you to share on twitch. then. You DJ set. So playing and mixing prerecorded music tracks. Other. Than music that's not that's owned by you. So, you can't do like Dj sat on twitch which is. Completely thank you perform. Music there has to be original has to be your own music. singing or performing to a karaoke recording other than an in Game Kariuki performance that he's licensed t for share such as a twitch performance. So obviously. Yes they've launched for those trucks. So there's no. There's no reason why you couldn't have twitch sings playing in the background playing music. Whilst you're playing a different game. More Music Tobacco we play. The. Game. Exactly. You can't do lip sync performance pantomime ing singing pretending to sing to music has not owned by you. That's what people are thinking. It means they're not allowed to sing. But basically that's the saying you're not allowed to sing the music. The music is the case. Yes. It just happened to music on your stream in general isn't as long as you don't hop out there. And I could have. Could have anything paying for you my headphones right now. and not output eight to this. What we're doing now, I'm not would be absolutely only listen listen to the music and I can sing too smug open the mark. AM. An only can I can sing to myself. But I can't let. You listening. Listen to the music because I don't own the rights to. Pass that on. And then the other one is musical visual music depiction. WHICH BASICALLY LYRICS MUSIC NOTATIONS tablet? Or any other visual representation copyrighted music. I think that'd being quite clear. Yeah Spelt wrong. What you main? Sheen ran at should run. Yeah. Spike Girls Spike y'all's. Owns Eight J., four, zero six. Thank you very much for that. Follow. Thank you have your. Well, you can have lots and lots of thumbs on your face. The the I have seen streams around where a lot of. People take like requests. Are they make them into like piano music props those are the people who might kick off but actually. There's worries isn't the so Couple of guys. Guy Follow Dramas. That drove along of really popular trucks. that. This is it, but then you'll making a living off of somebody else's content. It it's like somebody else using logo that you've designed without your permission. That was that was the whole thing of all this article fifty is that you can use the content of somebody else as long as you get their permission. I mean to be fat. I mean, I don't know about you guys. But for me thought starts just like life. You should be using something that you haven't either got the license for all got permission to use the. Open. Source. Yeah. Yeah So. Does that mean if was to buy a t-shirt the Hustler Ixil Latisha on. The street. I think they would probably let you off with that one. I would be surprised if they would. Black Mark You for wearing a t-shirt. Stuff to take it off. Just straight off stray off. Let's. Go your moves out would were. Yeah I mean, it's it's. It's difficult. It's a really really difficult situation because. I mean. Bit Mental Really. It'd be a lot. Of kind of done this the whole. Whole shaming created opinion of so long delicious natural. I know. I know one in particular. and. Moles is all I'M GONNA. Say. Couldn't have into. But I think he's right I don't think you should be out to make money off of other people's music and the whole thing of just being blase about it and saying to yourself Just saying to yourself well, they'll just meet the the the vaults that that's just no. Don't use somebody else's content to make your own money. Alaska license to. A license. Cillian challenges to add to that the if you watched the video links, I haven't linked have watched it yet. I, haven't watched it yet so. but I will do I. Think it was you actually in the in the facebook silly that said that he's got a friend who streams to facebook. And they knew it his stream because somebody drove by playing music. Wow How I mean. So Michael but. Well. Yeah I. Mean Get loud noise noise gates so But besides that's pretty. FACEBOOK guess obstacle different teasing sees. Well. That's it but you know. Is What is this whole? Music thing. Was He We've got Types of music that you may use. Streams outside on my all. Yeah, exactly. Accent Sasha, music that you may use into extremes. So music owned by you. So original music which was written by you and other recorded or performed live by you own or control all rights necessary to shed a musical twitch. Including the rights of the recording on the music and lyrics cost for Dragon Force? So he he should be fine if he's the guitarist for the buttons played music. Playing his own music. Music licensed to? USA. Copyright. Music owned in whole apart by someone other than you if you've got a license to share on twitch. Vocal performance like twitching peformance. So a vocal performance of a song songs captured in twitch things gameplay. Provided. Is created in accordance with twitch twitch is terms of service. They're doing is just enforcing what everybody is got away with. I I personally con-, see an issue with it because he's basically was being. Yellow, Graha than they just older just mute. You know. Now they're going to give you a three strike. Shirley, as a contact credit, you should have all the content you need to be able to do what you do. Yeah. Exactly. If you follow that, he should be able to do it. So. I don't stream anymore. Well, it I mean should they? I Dunno GonNa Confidence. Yanni announced streaming. By lovely lot here. I saw just imagine which just Paul pictures in different corners of the screen pretend to consorts ship. Leslie Him. Let's leave him. ME. Oh. Down the? Rammed into my laptop? Where the modest goes flying. Surely. Doing a thing on the the might might Bouche. No washed the mighty. Bouche. No. Sorry. Though. They`ll Saraceno PC. I have watched a little bit of it. I love it. Have stopped as time but It. kind of doesn't kind of doesn't. I am a big fan of no fielding I think he's Hilarious is pretty so. So I mean, is there any other needs that we need to come up? I think we need to move on to our. Feature the main event. So. And His Co., the fact of the city is in the chat for the subject. We are talking. Elitism. Now, I hear you wondering. What we mean by this exactly. On I think that kind of sums it up if anybody says elitism the first thing I think most people will think about is a PC masterpiece. A. Guarantee You. And I? Also News Wow. Wow. Must be used. Thanks thanks what graphics go. Just. A pretty dope want to say that. It's pretty dopers mind. Your Super Pretty Dope? Rate I was done A. Pretty Dope. It's all right. We'll she austin which which to. Welsh welfare well, well, she went console loses. Wow. Call is still. Yeah, you're enough ten seventy on your shoe. Yeah, he's been. He's been women now for four years blessed when he's all right ten, seventy, ten, seventy, nine. worked. If. I was to get forty four immodest out again he's twenty seventy. Or more, but now you know, yeah, stream derail by pc all trolls. That's it. That's it. Now, you know I. Think this Elitism is rife and is generally facebook groups. You see a lot like someone who coming for a bit of advice or something like that. And people will be like, well, yeah. You've got to go get a I nine, nine, hundred K.. You'll yet but I don't WanNa, play minesweeper. So Yeah but you look at thirty two. GIG Ram. You get at twenty at twenty Ti. To run that minesweeper. and. That's that's the kind of elitism that really grinds. Mike. Is I'm all for buying really good components if you're gonNA, make use of them. Have you seen the new? For minesweeper, it's like minecraft. Co.. From Minesweeper Yeah Amazing, the graphics and on those little flags. I mean the light bouncing off of the little flags is great. and. But yeah. It's I think elitism in PC's is rife and it's it's a lot of it is. Doing that console and PC thing. It's strange world like if. It dies jest. St- even I might look you and I gotTa Walk Away 'cause This little bit too much now yes. Yes. Mike they actually like in the PM Sunday actually built a PC that didn't have RGB didn't. Didn't have. Didn't have ATI BE CY winning announced like Lychee said, perfection that was hit the SORTA set told my God the Communists I add back. East you. Silly Sivvy's. Cities. Summed up his point. He's I'm not elitist like I'm a fan of the Best Bang for the buck, which is fine. If. The. So if someone came to you and still trust consulted for, that's fair enough. So. Someone came to you city and said, I want a PC I'm just going to use it for word processing. What would you recommend as as a assist them to to buy if they were literally just gonNA use the mark or soft APPs so token word excel powerpoint those those three things. What would you say that you would want to use? And this this going back to what you essentially you about different places. I I'm in a PC. PC group on facebook And it's called PC. Gaming consoles are garbage. Last quick. That's the that's the thing. talk like. I'm trying to find a typical thing a lot of these people sharing youtube videos. Actually it's just one person sharing each of us. Yeah someone just literally posting. DACA, get a DM from the guy who made the post I'm went. Thank you very much about that. So about four these. Tax. Coming at you it's like us. All I said was as I. Wow. S Lots, of thing. They just had probably a cheap rise and with integrated. THREE TO CG EUGENE Oh Yeah. The three hundred. Eighty quid. Department is the best value at the moment for. Calls Chips. But yeah basically if if I would have asked that same question in one of these facebook groups. Somebody would have come in. Charlie. And Buddy thank you very much about Rachel. How're you doing? We're talking about elitism in in. Gaming and PC's and stuff. Thank you so much. Right to do this massive they appreciated and you got all those thumbs all over your face only. Be You post that kind of question. In A. FACEBOOK group and they'll be. You have to. Because you need to be able to like look at the PC instantly turns itself on just by looking at. And you just think yourself really what is wrong with people? Yeah it's a bit a bit of a weird world but then you know it doesn't just exist impedes is seen. The playstation side. Recently, we've all the stuff that the exclusive come into PC. Species to from the Oslo. Playstation four slash playstation five games. And he's just like my my thoughts on the right amount things. So to derail slightly and is that if I'm buying playstation five, right I want to play games designed for the playstation five. Of course, you do dust while you would buy a new consoles, right? I'm not going to buy a playstation five to go and play playstation four games. That's not to say that I wouldn't play play a playstation four game on appears five. It's just a nice to have if it was available, it's a choice I guess. Well. Well why the hell you play places at five, hundred, four game go places for. Exactly. But obviously done has recently came back into the into the PC fault. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. Speaking of the day about. Trump would go back to console game now. I like having the P. Sake because it does everything. It does bumped. bumped. But what you sound right now. A Buck side That'd be a small. CIA Yes, but you could be sat on the SOFA. Sit on this thing I don't understand this whole Sofa game-ending thing. To. Say Your. Problem is the faculty far. Away from the screen. If you like playing on the console, it would be like if you a lot right Rutta he. Says Miles. I've got used to playing keyboards a mouse at the desk. Just feels right now feels nice. Slightly smaller screen I can see everything. I'm here. But. It's just said maybe it's better graphics graphics than always make, and we'll be back graphics in the past five if you again is on the PS four and the PS five. then. It. Will be on the PS five graphically you would imagine if it's been optimized for. DASA. Optimize yeah. Not just plugging in a game, but I like Microsoft have done. And we've thing by saying if you own the game on the xbox one. You get a free upgrade to the series X. Like what they've done that? Digital. Lonely I assume yeah. I would imagine. So they're not going to send out hard copies. Fair. I'm surprised. I mean props they might buy. Supplies. This must be the last Jedi which say. That is to be physical media Shouli. On. Digital only anyway. Like even with my switch I don't I don't even know where the actual. No I do I did see yours when I when we went to eat. The Cartridge. I don't own a physical game for the switch because I'm just used to just go. co-partner then they don't they don't taste very good. But. I'm sure the xbox probably try to push at least they gain possible. You would think. 'cause they doing it on like cloud game. And what they would do what was it called? It's called something. Is. X.. Cloud and probably pay probably as it sounds about right. Somewhere, there will be here. In the middle of the word Klaus Ct.. Cloud said. Vicious. I it makes sense. House box. Box. scillies just said on Cyprus probably could be CICI's unless you've got really comfortable in which case you can lose yourself. At. PULL ASLEEP ON. on Charlie said if a PS five is coming out this year, what's the point of making new games? PS Four. Inclusive unfortunately, if if a Games company turned around and said Roy is all September this year. We aren't making ps four games anymore. Than they're actively. Killing that thing, I, mean the killing that use of ice in that player base. They have to be seen as being inclusive of everybody in the same way that games would be made for the PS three still all being made for the PS three. People and they always kind of this stay gen behind early saw they won't move the PS five. You've quite got I think because not everybody's going to afford a new console norm for. You to shoot sometimes. Well, let's see I know people who've turned around and said I'm not going to be getting ps five for at least a year. I'm I'm I'm going to. Be Day One. On probably going to be day one will not be as five white. Hype train I'll really want to an will be like. She'll play playground smallness. Yet you know thing is though is I've got obviously I've got a banker friends that plan console. If I could move those people to PC. I wouldn't need to buy a console. Bob. I probably would because they're still going to games coming out is exclusives. On the playstation, the I will want to play. And that's the problem. Accent specs. I would buy playstation five purely for the exclusives or the potential exclusives will be coming out on that system. Like next week, you got the last of US part two coming out, which apparently is shop Vac. History we will have with. Me For a couple. Of minutes. And apparently, he's one of the best looking games. Released on the on the console. and Noah dog are renowned for wringing the neck of. The engine. That is running them. So you know you've got. Imagine not demo that came out that was on the the showing off the new unreal engine. You know that that looked immense. Apparently that was any bring it ten, eight. EP or something. Because they optimize optimize is about the optimization say you know I'm because dust one bones councils will always have. Is They could have a very specific hardware setup. PC. Won't ever criticism? For, Hockey Games some games favourite maybe NVIDIA cards some may favor MD custom. Built, but pure whatever they were bill all the luck. In. I suppose on the flip side of that like gives Spec- uses the choice you can spend the fault you know you can. You can read your budget e kind gives you a broadcast work doesn't it so? There is up. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that the the the counter argument that is neutron build a PC system that can run. The same speed and stuff as the. The playstation specs the xbox one x and stuff like that running four K. sixty frames per second. Battle. To be fat, be fat the one native. Okay for the. First were they I pissed? xbox built games like years I'd probably expected. We'll be because his optimized. Tyson. Pie. But I could be one. But. On the other argument, a PC does more than just games. Does everything I'm Nici like today for example, I got up at seven stomach work all. Finished half. Three. Half Threat Blakey. And Play. Games. Until I came onto this part, I've let she not move for my. Done multiple different things I bet you have. We all know what homage. In Dungeons I was. Like he's been downloading through secret hard drive again. But not think that's the thing as well as the whole console versus. PC argument is is. A relevant. Because the console just does games. Yes you laid movies. Yes. You can go on the Internet. WanNa use you consult go on the Internet I have no idea. Absence stuff I guess to walk. But not streaming services. Entertainment. Can do that. Yeah I mean the the thing is when you look elitists, you come across everything on your the because. The number of times I've seen tweets that said you on our real gamma. If you have not seen this have a plan this. Like you know gave if you play mobile games, it's like. An. Elite. Well. Yeah, you know. Yeah. This you've played this game, you're not a real game really. Guys. I've just got to do on cautious. Clubs. You. Any real gave me. Know Real game, he didn't play real games. This Charlie speaking of people playing in staying playing old consoles on playing a to DSP animal crossing new leaf. Thanks that. Is Commitment for USA. yes. The other side of Elitism as well can go really. Granular en- games as well. We ever experienced starting games in. Laying Games. Plan called you eat this year more? Morphou, whereas been cross play. I get ripped to shit. Yeah. You wouldn't believe if I'm playing alone with my buddies. Am Now dan has an experience yet. Call us. 'cause calls played with my buddies. All of the other guys they're all. Their on council. I because across play. Obviously you know you go into a game and only potentially if I'm playing along those guys, I could potentially be the only one on PC. Right okay and then you get all of the the console games go ooh Chee implant on keyboard and mouse. ooh Cheat in. But. The other side of as well as is the settings the settings on standard across calm solemn pc week. For example, I can change my field of view. So that is a massive advantage, your pc game especially if you go big screen. Somebody breaking into houses she. Halla. Sometimes. Something have no idea was. This when we this is choose been swatted. Up. Okay. Well as price. Yeah I don't want the pups joking. Just through something couples says. As I was saying so. This. Whole thing with the field of you now I've been playing the game and I've seen somebody spectate Mamane and I've seen someone out the corner of the screen and I said I t right now how did you know that it's not well can see him because of Golden Wider, field of view see how call peaking monitor and it makes it makes a huge difference. and. You know, and then like house put their in the chat on consoles you've got Amos's now. Yes you concern. But they have Amos? Yes. Yes. I. Know it sounds bad that online aim assist everywhere. That's weird. That is. Charlie says this there's a lot of person comes to cross platform. There is there's a massive amount of pros and cons appreciate done across platform. Go listen to the Pumpkin also cross-platform. PUT FOOD SLASH THUMB ON SKOKO CHILL As on. Yeah it is. Yes. Yes see. city said what about four pro combs where they got PC versus console with Amos? Yes I think that's right. I think when you're in a pro competition. Stop the himself up yet you exactly the same a lot of the the pro competitions for certain games I think he's Valeron where it's actually. Restricted on the screen soy. Yeah on over watches as well. Yeah. Yeah. So only allowed certain say on the screen. An acid. So yes, and countries feel AVI wherever it. Is. You. Want to come off. Completely Fair. Competition I remember playing operation flashpoint ages ago. Playing the online. Portion of that and I remember playing it, I used to have no great PCP I'd play on Mike. Hi. Sang so gross everywhere and all that kind of stuff. But then you see somebody else spectating and stuff nowhere Charlie we'll see in a bit and you see spectate somebody else. He's got like really no graphics or something and there's no grass there. Might. Be Laying in the grass sliding away. And then somebody tends to settings on low and you just literally just let you let down in the middle of nowhere. Walk the early beater of g like. If you turn textures all the way down to the. Greatest basically see the miles he could. Have like the debt the possession. So high for there's no Guas. So they hide it. You know like. We know style. I think. Call said people using the pot on pc with Amos's those people like. To uninstall the game yet discovered. People do. Oh. Yes. I've seen it. I've been to a couple of times little. You know game has the beyond like over Watt like Lee kind of thing. To, feel with them. We actually played against a team who all use control pads that gets us a key. What about while we won we won by a mile but. It was to see. Those really stick it. That's my elitism out. But you can't do it. Is that. It's not right. All right. Welcome into the chat hype You well and program in nature on distinct. Just get cancelled. HOLD UP PRO wasn't it? If that Youtube who or the East sports going who? Use. Them. A. hackle wholesale ammo something on one of youtube videos and then got. Kicked from his sports team and stuff wasn't it? I didn't see that. Yeah. Out WHO's doing video on? Playing around with it on a thing. On Youtube in a competition and then he got dropped from his is sports team that will he not good? You shouldn't have to use it. Nick mucks is PC with control seat. The upsets me these people that a pro pro gamers eastport light in a big. Be. Kind of people in aim streaming. Doing, anything. See I know when I click my mouse Gigi and blow somebody in the face Giga. that. Oh No bunk la welcome in. Thank you very much for the follow. Russia whether you'll hear following for the giveaway or whether will actually here watching the the stream if you hit what stream say. that's why I don't use aim just don't need it. Is that right? Carl Yeah you don't use aim us? We'll hack. 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Oh Oh my God the CIA is popping Alpha. Want. To stay on. I. Wish from Sheffield Massive Sheffield must've excellent. Can you guys give this play this? Clean I think it might have been might not put noise so. Sorry, it's probably the wrong microphone. Usually south of this, this headset mark. But this is this. Coming saying. You know. It's nice values that one of those stigma Bona Papas he looks yeah. So and You could hear that. Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't hear that. Just what's going on? Check of south? They all think we just need to. Have a listen. Yeah. The strike for ice. Cream, van, that's it. That's it. See that's the other thing is well about the going back to the news portion earlier. Is. I have different sound effects. So obviously, I have sound effects. Guys listening at the Mobile Com. Comedies. I have things like. Music photo I have things kind of like. A. While plan there. That's GONNA get picked up potentially I've also. BIC Very counseling. Strikes now juicer the. 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We'd have to. Our to be honest. Let's. See as well are used to yeah on now. So, it's not really a choice more that out. So. So what can you actually like Dustin something? If we meet just. Just meet just may were. Fate, but you're not going to that place where they just sell like stocks and snacks meet the butchers. There's a place called Viva Brazilian Cardiff. Brazil zone if you've been to members of Brazil, it's like fifty. Viva. Va even might be for Las Vegas. Can Spark Ball Nice Red's barbecue. Aw Lots. We need to go to a red barbecue on this is all over. You can have some chips, watch them cook those nice animals. This northern think if you not do not know what Red's barbecue is. o Paulo you we need. We need to get you option. Say Google. Yeah I WOULD So. This is the wind down. To Barbecue restaurant almost famous in Manchester. Almost famous is nice. The Manchester One is proper nice as. A. Credit Tree Barbecue. Pixel Boston. Yeah. Famous bugs. Yeah we will. 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They literally just went. Wipe. Out. Nice call. Yes. Straight to the point vote on. But yeah, it's You know it's it's going to be good once all over things assigned to open up although. Not sure. Down a little bit we'll. Wait about two weeks behind. Lovely. Life in it. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean how long? It's GonNa go on for properly and. All that kind of stuff, but we'll we'll get that people. We will get there. Everything we'll go back to normal. Hopefully not too much normal hopefully, people realize. Just, be stuck in his room I just stayed indoors is brilliant. Of. Loved. Oh. This of loved his own stuff. I've let you stayed in day-to-day lovely. You're so like Surfing Old. Older before your time here. World is behind you. That's Why You should get like a word. There's original. Just for the Background. But Yeah On a subway and go till spoke. So you can see the mind flew to England sick and did not know about two weeks corn thing. Wanted to go on the subway, go to hospital. Nice It's no good anyway I think we all coming to the end of this. This stream elitism exists every wave is everywhere even in the Stream So. Going so I'm guessing you. You'RE GONNA. Go often go to bed and we'll have you. On going to be staying on to place him quarter Judy. Cooler. So I'm going to try and get do be right back for a couple of minutes whilst I going get myself ready for called Judy. which doesn't really take a logical. Extreme mock at the see if that works on the street. To audio. Yes. So that we can. Basically. Download, just this portion of the of the stream so. If. You're going to think about appreciate that stand the chat. We will be right back if you all going to head off. Thanks very much for joining us this evening. For. These thumb coach put cost in spotify twitter pot Kosti world. Thank you so much downloading and continually listening to our podcast if you feedback wants to cover any other certain subjects let's. In one of the comments sections on or alternatively up on twitter. Twitter dot com slash thumb on the school culture. Attentively just find this. We're all we're all around I'll give address off at. So that, you can just put round for brew. don't get any ham sandwiches. If you come to wizards now but she's toasty. I'm going to Wales them can. Stitch. Before we go. We go. Catch up sandwich, yes. Yes. Dan Ketchup sandwiches on. Yes. I do it a lot when I was a student I know how if you like just like hungry but don't want to full sandwich. Big Catch up spray all. Along. What you put full tour as well. Hugo time fans I just copy also stylized to stop you. Yes. My favorite the one handed. Catch up sandwich. Right one one slice of bread pop up on. Your right. Spray spray on off the site, and then you just go. Oh Gosh. See I. I live radio. To the edges I go to be exact. Go screw. Ridiculous shoes templates template. It has. Barista's have those things that they top of their like coffees for the Cappuccinos. Go. Like for my coat mccoubrey I ever got a cold fomer. Cold. I know. I've neutrino words. On next week's episode. Yeah. Make full. We should that we should do that. We should get him to like stream skype from his phone downstairs in the kitchen, and you can show us who makes his coffees. We could play a game where we we said the most randomest things and she's got to go find house. Could be good. Could be funny. You could like get lucky, Gopro right because I cannot can stream from a GOPRO. Some WIFI anyway. Saw Can it be Wifi or Bluetooth I guess Bluetooth Phone and then Extreme from your phone users you find for the. US. And Yes. So yeah I think that'd be quite good. We could just have like a fun. A fun stream something. Down the left to get a to get a Webcam all similar so that we can be like a gun find A. Sausage. And it'll be off because she hopes. Down to the SPA we go. We have says local. I mean, I could walk task without is evolving five minutes. Oh well. You don't WanNa do you All discuss SPA. Not. Never. Mind anyway guys. We're going to leave it there. Thank you once again for joining us this evening. We all GONNA shift this over and play some call of duty. Now so we will be right back or I will be right back for some cooler GT and once again, thank you for listening to this report is your friends. Tell us tell tell your friends We have got some events coming up. So keep it on twitter and big. We will see you soon. So guys take care.
What's happening in Pennsylvania?
"Hi i'm imprac host of axios recap. We are back with our special axios election. Twenty twenty coverage what we're watching is what's happening in pennsylvania which many people think will be the tipping point state for president trump or former vice president biden with me. Is emily previti reporter for w. f. an npr station in pennsylvania. And she's on the ground in luzern county which in two thousand sixteen went for president trump by twenty points after election after election going for democrats. So emily you're in luzerne county pennsylvania northeastern pennsylvania. What are you so far seeing on the ground in terms of turnout. Enthusiasm all the above. So we're seeing high turnout in lisburn and across the state based on what i've heard from my colleagues elsewhere and i'm getting a pretty even mix of registered democrats and republicans and even fewer unaffiliated voters. But definitely some of those. Well we have a better idea of. Who's voted by mail. As of yesterday the pennsylvania department of state data showed there are about two and a half million ballot have been returned and received by counties and of those nearly one point. Six million were by democrats around five hundred fifty six thousand by republicans so definitely a heavier. Turn out by mail by democrats. Those of us who are outside of pennsylvania how we should watch the results coming in tonight. So for example as you said a lot of these ballots. None of the mail in ballots could be opened until today in pennsylvania will a precinct say in lisburn county or in philly or in pittsburgh. Will they report the quote on the ground numbers without yet reporting the absentee. Will they wait until they have a full count from their precinct. It depends on the county. And i know that some county is most of those that have a relatively small number of registered voters. I think the largest is cumberland with a hundred and eighty seven thousand and it goes down from there to watch. That has about two registered voters. There are several that are not even starting until tomorrow to count anything and so county is will post tonight tonight and then the plans for updating those numbers they usually do that at the end of the day is counting if we're to base it on practices during the primary which again was really the first one that substantial numbers of voters cast ballots by mail in pennsylvania and the only election that we have for a basis of comparison. So when i watch tv tonight and it says luzerne county reports. One candidate is up by ten points. There's a pretty good chance that that won't be the actual number when all of a sudden done correct what the environment been like in lucerne in those areas these kind of these trump heavy areas of pennsylvania in terms of both political ads but also conversation. This is a national election and these are very divisive figures to a certain extent are their local issues that are also at play here that are informing the national so. I'm not hearing that from people. I'm hearing people who support the president. Say that they like the way that you know what. He's done for veterans. They like the way that he handles foreign policy that they think the best hope for economic improvement would be another four years of a trump presidency and honestly a lot of people who support biden. When you ask them why it's basically that he's not the president and then they have critiques of the president to share. So i'm not hearing a lot of pennsylvania's specific hyper local issues. From voters as far as dictating their choice for president. You get a sense that they feel that their vote. This year in this election matters more perhaps than their votes have in the past because so many people seem to think the outcome is going to rest on. What pennsylvania does no one's really indicated that they've just sort of some people comment oh all eyes are pennsylvania but it doesn't really seem to be something they're thinking about too much. It seems that they like everyone else are just very curious to know what the final outcome is going to be aren't so concerned with whether voters elsewhere are going to be paying a lot of attention to pennsylvania. Emily final question for you. There have been some reports coming out today. Sources with trump campaign suggesting that they are at least a little bit disappointed by their. Get out the vote results in pennsylvania you said you have seen good turn out strong in luzern. Which again is a red area. Is the turnout the in person turn out what officials locally were expecting it to be a little more the less turnout his high everywhere but i also think election officials expected turn out to be high. I know that luzern did elect trump in two thousand sixteen has always been pretty even democrats register republicans. But they are actually. There are more democrats. Twenty thousand mark registered in luzerne county than republicans. It's one hundred six thousand democrats here and eighty six thousand republicans as of the latest statistics from the pennsylvania. Department of state. Emily previti thank you so much for taking the time. thanks big. thanks for listening. We'll be back soon with another special axios election. Podcast in the meantime please check out. Our website axios dot com or are axios mobile app for the election news.
CBS2 NEWS PM NEWS UPDATE 12-03-20
"Hello this is christine. Johnson from cbs. News new york and here are your news. Headlines there is growing concern in new jersey as dozens of hospital workers test positive for covid. Nineteen forty cases have been reported at palisades medical center and one hundred at ocean county medical center while some patients have been diverted to other facilities. The hospital say the cases have not affected staffing levels or patient care. A gunman attacks a bronx. Bodega owner and the crime is caught on camera. The owner of the moors height store says at her five-year-old daughter was with her when two armed robbers stormed and demanding cash. No shots were fired and no one was seriously hurt. A police are searching for the suspects. It was the second time in a week. The store was robbed. A group of lower manhattan residents and businesses filed a lawsuit to stop the men housed in the lucerne hotel from being transferred to a downtown hotel. Some of the men have also filed a lawsuit claiming the move would cause them harm disrupting their mental health and substance abuse recovery programs. It would be their fourth move. Since march a graffiti blitz on new york city. Subways taggers hit two dozen cars over the weekend. Most of those incidents took place in tunnels overnight while trains were out of service. Despite the vandalism the mta says graffiti hits are down thirty four percent compared to last year. Lonnie quinn says thursday. Looks like the best day of the week. The low will be forty-three increasing clouds. Friday and then heavy rain moves in the high will be forty nine the low forty five. Remember you can get your forecast and your local news headlines twenty four seven streaming on. Cbs and new york. Find it on our website. Cbs new york dot com. Or on the cbs news app. I'm christine johnson. cbs news.
#142 Brad Thor- #1 Bestselling Thriller Author
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I know you've been busy on the book tour with three quick questions if you were a professional wrestler what would your entrance song be coming into the ring. Wow you got to fire fire up now. This is what you're gonNA learn about me Sean. I am incredibly thoughtful. In the details matter. I had to do my favorite five for don imus his show so used to have guests pick five songs in it took me like an entire day to pick the songs because I needed songs that even if they began them from the first bar people were not watching the TV. WE'RE GONNA turn on and look and say who the hell's coming on this show so I put on the spot right now. <hes> it's gotta the A._C._c. back in black because we get the crowd completely fired up right away even better we get a little better idea. New Your framework how you view things so next up sitting down with one cocktail or beverage of choice. What are you going with? Wow all right one cocktail Taylor beverage of choice <hes> Bourbon specific brand <hes> big fan of the Colonel Taylor in a like a lot because my liquor store in Nashville doesn't always have it so when it comes in it's a surprise and it's a treat in the people my neighborhood hate me because I buy every single bottle in the store so let's do next year when the new book comes out will be sitting down having a few classes that final one you have one vacation left where you going. I know you love travel. It's no question I go back to my beautiful little island of Paros Nonpartisan Carlson Greece very nice. I know you live there for a little while right. I did a couple of summers very good very good alright so I know you don't do your writing in the morning and you just mentioned it's morning there. You've got your big Carafe of coffee but how'd how'd you typically start your day so I start my day but taking care of myself so I get up no matter how rough I may feel from a late night the night before and I go when I work out so that's number one. I've got a gym at my house so I'll go on a workout workout. That's number one. <hes> it's important for me that the kids see me up and doing I mean I'm an entrepreneur. I own my own business. I could sleep in and I am not a morning person but it's important that my kids see me getting up early. They're getting up early. Go to school so yeah so I'll get up and I'll go work out first. GonNa come back and do breakfast with them very nice. What do you typically do for workout depends on the day so I mean I don't know I'm I'm lifting weights at least three to four days a week in throwing in Cardio two to three times a week and I'm trying on have one full day off but I get some sort of physical exercise on that date? It's it's normally walking. It's normally walking or hiking <hes> getting outside and making sure I'm getting away from all the electronics in that kind of stuff at least once a week very nice so we have a little bit better idea about how so you get your day started and something that really intrigued me was actually a former guest. They brought you up so guest of what got you there. Brought Brad Thorpe in the interview and this is what he said he said this guy is a force of nature. I don't know what he's going to do but whatever he's going to do he'll be successful at it and this was the first time he met you. Have you always had that. Get after it attitude ever since ever since I can remember it's part of my d._N._A.. My Gad's an entrepreneur. My Mom was an entrepreneur and you only got what you went after so I I've always been a high energy. <hes> really really hit it hard kind of guy so <hes> I'm not listen. That's very compliment lamented lovely compliment that somebody play paid me and I it resonates with me though because I am very high energy in varying gauged in again as you and I were joking around about what Song I have is my walkout songs a wrestler very detail focus because I think that's where success happens is in the details yet no I didn't. I didn't want to put you on the spot with that. Make you feel uncomfortable. I think it's just an attribute to you and the energy that you had so. I'm interested about that you mentioned Your Dad was an entrepreneur. What did you think you'd be as a kid? You know what I always wanted to be a writer but I spent a good amount of my young adult life running away from it <hes> I I went to the University of Southern California. That's where my dad had been doing a lot of work. He's a real estate developer. He he was a marine got out of the south side of Chicago by joining the Marine Corps. My mom was a flight attendant for T._W._A.. They both saw the world in those respective. Their Respective Professions and my dad went to school on the G._I.. Bill off and <hes> when I excuse me when I went to U._S._C. I went in as a business administration major because my dad wanted me to take over his business and I didn't like it was boring. It wasn't engaging me and I switched reached over creative writing and film and television production and when I left U._S._C. I went overseas to Paris. I had a friend who had an extra room and I started working on my first novel but I got three chapters into it and I quit because I had that voice in the back of my head that I think we all have <hes> that says you don't take the risk. Don't risk the embarrassment what if you fail better to have not tried than to have tried and failed and get into that voice in I shipped my laptop back home and I took all the money I had saved working college and I traveled throughout Europe and I had this idea. I'm going to do a T._v.. Show <hes> thought traveling made me a better American and I wanted to encourage young Americans to see the world. Don't wait till you retired dig overseas so I came back and I did it. It was an incredible lift lift in that it was very difficult. It was difficult to launch a T._v.. Show with no experience in in getting on stations from coast to coast but I did it but that was the size of my fear. I was willing to go through all I love love the T._v.. Show but I was willing to go through all that stress in hassle to avoid doing what was my true calling in life and that was to write novels and I really really believe Shawn that that which were destined most to do in life we are most afraid of that is is incredibly thoughtful and deep. I'm just thinking about your last few words there and thinking about that in my own life but I want to jump back to the show for a second and it was traveling light correct. I was the title of the show correct what I love about. This is you're an award-winning in creator producer writer and host of the show how to someone who has no television experience control and grasp all of that so I had the basic mechanics. I learned the basic mechanics at U._S._C. in college doing a show. But it was my dad he was brilliant in he said listen if you're going to do this. Nobody is born with a beard <hes> B. E. A. R. D. Nobody's born with a beard and I thought okay. This is interesting. was that mean he said Hollywood in television the film business it's full of freelancers so you don't have any experience but what you need to do is take the focus off of your inexperience in put it onto the experience of other people <hes> to what I ended up doing was researching and finding people I wanted to work with were freelancers getting their resumes and then putting together the team air quotes around teams when I pitch public television and they were asking about experience and everything I said well let me tell you about my team and then here's this award winning director this cameraman and all this kind of stuff so that would fell to me was getting public television to sign off on this concept and then raising the money because they don't <hes> in my case. They didn't just say here's money go do it. I had to go out and find sponsors but that worked to say oh well you know I graduated commodity from the University of Southern California studied film creative writing television production <hes> but again showing the team of professionals who are going to be working with me on this. That's what really helped <hes> take that my inexperience. Let's say a off the table. The word that comes to mind here is belief and you mentioned putting together a team raising money getting the television network to believe in you. What did you do so well to have all these people? Take a chance on you well. The my money came before the sponsors money. It turned out so what I did was I got public television. Put me in touch. They always put somebody on your production and make sure your abiding by the the extensive rules in public television so they team me up with a group called South Carolina e t the which was the <hes> the ownership group. Let's say of all the public television stations in the State of South Carolina and they were looking to bring new new product to market particularly. They wanted to appeal to a younger demographic so I found someone who had a need in had way to fulfil that need I admire needs to which was I got to get production off the ground so we were able to complement each other. I had a great show idea and they had people on staff crews and they offered me a crew. So what I ended up doing was bringing this director who is very well thought of and he had allowed me to use his real to show public television listen. This is the stuff that directors done before and he had a sizzle reel. It was really cool how we'd put it together and he had filmed around the world so it was perfect to use for travel show but I went over to Paris to shoot a pilot and I did it. They get South Carolina gave me e._T._v.. GimMe the crew but this was at a time Sean where credit cards like if you sneezed like a pilot credit cards would show up on your desk. If you blinked there your bathtub. It'd be full of them so I decided that I would finance myself. I figured you know what if I'm not willing to take a risk on myself. Why should I ask anybody else too so I paid for that pilot tens of thousands of dollars on credit cards at something like eighteen nineteen twenty one percent interest it was crazy but I got a pilot done in with that pilot I was able able to then take it to other public television stations to ask them if they would air it and then once I got the commitment of all these major stations then I was able to go to sponsor <hes> different sponsors and say hey first of all here's five minutes what the show would look like and if you Wanna I've got the full half hour? I can show it to you in. Here's the list of stations that have agreed to run it in. That's how that all came together Brad. You're getting me even more fired up over here. Just thinking about the confidence you had in yourself. Why did you believe leave that you could leverage all these credit cards and net failure wasn't going to be an option for you? Tell you what when I did this. I was a huge I still huge Tony Robbins Fan and I had gone to study in Paris gone to school rule over there in my mom had choose an executive recruiter at the time and she was working for a client called Nightingale Coconut Publishing Group and I had taken over a couple of books on tape <hes> in one was a book on negotiating and another one was a Tony Robbins series and it was the only thing I had that I could listen to besides music because there was no T._v.. In my room I was sleeping in this little attic bedroom thing and so I listened to the Tony Robbins stuff over and over and over and over again <hes> success leaves clues lose. If you show the same siege reap the same rewards that you have to have the acuity to fine tune your approach your pitch I mean I just I became like this monk in a cell only had one book to read over and over again for me. It was Tony Roberts in that stuff was very very powerful particularly at that time in my life and I realized that no matter how many knows I got every single know that somebody gave me on my project meant. I was one step closer to the yes. I never lost faith that the yes was out there and it's just it's going to be as many noses. It takes to get to that yes but there was no way I was going to give up carving your own path. What I love to is that you put in as much work as possible control what you can control and now I wanNA loop in your writing career? You mentioned you move to Paris begin novel. You got three chapters. In what was the book you were writing. Was it your first book. You ended up releasing lines of Lucerne. No it's funny it was not an I thought that I had lost those chapters for good. I was cleaning out my garage before I went a bookstore and I found this old file box and I'm like what's this stuff and I pulled it out and it was the inside the box with a lot of other pieces of writing. I didn't college at U._C.. I actually found the first three chapters and I think at at some point. I'm going to write that book going to complete it. I like it to be like the very last thing I write kind of a thing so I don't WanNa touch it for you know years and years and years and years decades Oh that is so interesting so talk to me about that moment where you decide to to end writing at that moment three chapters in was it something in the back of your mind you just couldn't escape or was it. One day just came to you that hey this is too much. I need to let this go right now. Well I say this with with every ounce of respect <hes> possible for the United Negro College Fund they had commercials when I was growing up one of the best commercials ever at best tag lines ever because it stuck with me which is a mind is a terrible thing to waste. That was their slogan but I began to take that slogan. I've I've never forgotten it. I began to take that slogan shorten it to suit what I was going. Through and I- short to a mind is a terrible thing period because of that voice that kept nagging me saying don't do this don't do this. Don't do this. <hes> I convinced myself that it writing was the most solitary act a person could engage in as a profession and I said you know it's no wonder so many writers become alcoholics in so many of them have committed suicide in this kind of thing and I just taught myself out of doing the book because it was hard hard and even more than being hard Sean <unk> demands a tremendous amount of honesty in introspection if you can't be honest with yourself if you can't fearlessly look inside yourself. You'll never even be a halfway decent writer so I yeah I talked myself doing it and I filled. I filled that hole that void in me with travel and I traveled traveled traveled Ben. I filled it with all of the highs and lows that come. I'm with beginning your own business and trying to get that first customer in the door with my production company but that voice that that told me you know you you shouldn't do this above above Abbad. It's not gonNA work out. There was something deeper and stronger in more resonate inside me and that was the need to write that had ever since I was a little boy in on my honeymoon my wife turned to me and said what would you regret on your deathbed never having done and before I could grab the words out of the air and shove him back in my mouth. I should writing a book and getting a published and she said fine when we get home. You're going to start spending two hours a day. No phone no Internet and you'RE GONNA start making that dream. Come true and so how am I gonNA tell my brand new bride that I'm a chicken <hes> that I don't have the courage instinctiveness to to see this lifelong goal through so it was out of Pri- <hes> that I got <hes> got that fuse lit again in got back into it and I did it two hours became three became four became five and she brings dinner to my desk and we just keep everything at bay so I could do this. When I finished writing that first book Sean Who's the greatest feeling in world it must be what it feels like for people to run their first marathon climb their first mountain? I knew I could do do it again. And again and again and again and just as incredible was the feeling of knowing that when I go to my deathbed I will not look back and say what if I'd only tried to go after that dream fried can be a motivating factor that is for sure I I love that she brought that <music> out of you and got you back to writing and I know all the listeners and readers of your worker thankful for that but let's talk about those two hours each day. You're about to get back into writing. What is that even look like planning out a new book sitting down to write anything those first first few weeks that you remember well? I can tell you a little bit about how it all came together which is kind of interesting and just shows you the way the universe lines up when you make the right decisions so for my travel show we had gone to Lucerne. Switzerland and in Lucerne is a <music> a raw a monument carved into a cliff face. It's a dying lion that was carved to commemorate the seven hundred plus Swiss guard that died defending King Louis Marie Antoinette in the initial throws of the French Revolution Mark Twain called it the most moving piece of rock in world. This beautiful lines got a spear broken off in its side and I always liked the alliteration of the line of Lucerne and even back when I was doing my t._v.. Show before I met my wife and had said I'm going to write a book. I would like to write a book. I said if I ever do a book I'm going to the title is going to be the lines of Lucerne. I don't know what it's going to have to do with Switzerland whatever lines of Lucerne Anyway <hes> my sponsor for my T._v.. Show in our second season was real Europe group in as a wedding present <hes> they gave us rail passes and as many overnight train. Train compartment rides as we want it which is a great way to save money and <hes> on our final leg of the <hes> of our honeymoon in Europe. We shared a compartment. We didn't have a private one with a lovely brother and sister. I've been dreading getting on the train because I didn't know who these strangers were going to be and I just thought to sleep with one eye open you know it's going to be we're going to be in there like Gypsies or bank robbers. I didn't know what it was going to be and <hes> they turned out to be lovely from Atlanta. Georgia in the sister. Cindy Jackson was a a big Fan of my t._v.. Show they traveled all the time and turn out cindy and I had a shared love of books and we talked about books all night long from Munich to Amsterdam and she said are you going to make more T._v.. Shows and I I had already on honeymoon told my wife was gonNA write a book and I figured if I kept talking about about it. It would make it more real so I said to Cindy. I said I'm GonNa Make More T._v.. Shows but what I'm going to do I someone to write a book interesting okay. I've told the second person now we get off the train in Amsterdam and <hes> we go to exchange contact information in Lo and behold. She's he's a sales rep for Simon Schuster and she told me she said if you write that book I'd like to read it and if I can help you at Simon and Schuster to be my honor so on my honeymoon I had already had an idea for a book told my wife I was going to write a book a meet a sales rep from Simon and Schuster shuster. There's just one element missing which is what's my story going to be in. Believe it or not my wife and I went from the train station to the hotel in Amsterdam. A room wasn't ready and the desk clerk centers around the corner to get a cup of coffee and a sandwich at this little cafe and I sit down. My wife has a paperback with her. She starts reading. There's an English language newspaper on the next table that somebody's left behind and I opened it up and I'm flipping through and I find this little intelligence brief little column about three quarters of an inch wide and two inches tall in it was about a Swiss intelligence officer who had embezzled all this money from the Swiss army in was training zone shadow militia high in the Alps with high-tech weapons from his own private arsenal. I said there's my story so all of that team together on that trip and then when I got home I started doing those two hours a day but I knew what I was gonNA write about. We were living in Park City Utah. At the time and Bill Clinton President Bill Clinton had been to visit ski he twice for his daughter Chelsea's birthday and so I knew some secret service guys and I said what's it like. How do you secure the entire mountain for a president and they said well? It's a lot of work and we like to keep it open so other people can ski and so all that bubble together with this idea of Swiss wish mercenaries. Why would you hire Swiss mercenaries well? Maybe they're snow kidnapping president while he's on ski vacation in Park City and that's how that all just kind of mashed up and came together. Well talk about the stars lying. There are so many different directions. I would love to go right now. We're going to get back to how you go from idea to to writing it down on paper but something you said that really hit me is when you put it out in public to a second person and you let them know your plans. How important was that for you again? It was pride right so I had the pride factor in there because I told my wife. This was my my one thing that I regret never having done it. My Wife's okay you're going to do it now. I had some professional pride on the line with Cindy Jackson because Cindy knew me as is Brad thor the host of travelling light so there is my professionalism. If you will is now at stake so kind of the way my wife viewed me a my that that large personal stake was on the table now. I had a professional steak on the table table with a big Fan of my t._v.. Show so it started bringing together. It's almost like the universe was conspiring to to hit me from all sides so that there was no way I couldn't do this and so yeah it was important that I do that. I didn't Intel lots of other people after that. That seemed to be enough for me but it was what I needed. No question interesting. Another thing you mentioned is when you I finished that book. Just the joy the pure elation you had. was that the biggest moment where you feel like you've arrived or you've accomplished one of your big dreams. Yeah there was no question when I wrote and I don't write this anymore but I did on that first manuscript I typed the end and it was the most incredible feeling I've written nineteen thrillers now and it feels really good to finish thriller but it never feels as good as that first one that was special that was reaching the top of my very first mountain in it felt awesome still feels awesome to finish a book but that was the big one that had that was a even if I never did anything again after that that was a major personal accomplishment yeah I have to imagine that has a special place in your heart now want to dive into your idea generation process and how you go from idea to creating a best seller and you mentioned you have to be sitting in that cafe in Switzerland and the idea came to you. Do those ideas typically. Just come out of nowhere for you or is there a methodical process to try to get them out <hes> so there's a million there's a million ways. I can describe this in a lot the anecdotes but people say to me they say Brad. Where do you get your ideas and I say I get him in the shower or after the second glass of Bourbon <hes> it it's because that's when I'm really relaxed in? That's when it flows so oh getting an idea in actually writing a book or two different things because you have to get the idea. The idea can't be forced but the book needs discipline so Jack London was famous for saying you can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club and you throughout history. There have been stories in movies made plays and all this kind of thing of the frustrated writer who sits down to write nothing comes. That's where the discipline going after inspiration with a club has to happen food but for me you can't force the the the the idea that seed that the book is going to grow from. That's gotta come naturally but Stephen King said that a writer is someone who's trained their mind to misbehave in my case. That's very true. I look at everything and say what if what if this had happened watched the news and say well what if that's not really the story what if it was this so I'm constantly flipping things over in turning them on their head turning them inside out just to see if there's anything interesting in there for me so it's just this kind of Mental Ping Pong that I play with facts to see if I can get an interesting story out of something that at first glance doesn't seem that interesting. You're never starving for ideas. Are you know <hes> particularly now I finally understand understand <hes> as crazy as the world is the Chinese curse. May You live in interesting times. I now understand that so then I want to know more about just your overall creative genius and then how someone may be interested in writing how they can help spark that in themselves you just mentioned you never starving for idea so are there things of writer can do is is it experience in life travel anything like that that has helped you along the way well thorough had a great quote which is and I'm going to bomb an absolutely just bastardize it here because I don't have the first part <hes> but it basically the quote was how vein it is to sit down and write when you have never stood up in lived in so <hes> <hes> I I draw a lot from my life experience. I am I have a I have a well in me that is never ending of Energy and passion and excitement and I'm constantly on the move and doing different things and seeing different things and I have this voracious appetite that I want to feed with new experiences and I feed that appetite in different ways. I'll travel. That's one thing <hes> I also a huge reader and I believe that you cannot be he <hes> a even mid level good writer without being an incredible reader. I think that's really really important <hes> in back to Stephen King again. Stephen King in his book on writing had a great piece of advice which which is to write what you love to read because that's where your passion is and I actually take it a step further and I say not only should you write what you love to read because that's where you'll find your passion but you have a mini p._H._d.. In that genre that you probably they don't even know about so if you like fantasy like or sci-fi or political and international thrillers like I right if you've read enough in that genre you know why some of the books succeed in some of the books don't for you personally. I don't mean sales. I mean Oh you know why you like certain books in certain books you don't there may be authors who have written multiple books where there's three of them. You'll love and four you don't in you say oh he did this and change that or she did this and change that I didn't like it as much as I like these other books well that all goes goes into this knowledge base that you can draw on as a writer so I believe part of being successful is having great self-discipline. It really is to be a successful writer. It's eight of pants to seat of chair. <hes> clancy at once said anybody can write the novel. The key is can you write a second novel third novel in a fourth novel. That's that's really where the talent comes into play <hes> but inspiration is something that you do have to go after with the club. There is no secret way to do it but every story's stories been told Sean <hes> that's one of the things they taught us in the creative writing program at U._S._C. so you're not gonNA find a story that hasn't been told but what you bring that unique and special is your way of telling that story. I had one teacher wants. The talked about did a whole thing we did. It was an amazing class. We're talking about Jesus in Rocky Balboa and no matter who argued what in the class he could make the argument that Jesus and Rocky Balboa was the same story in an appeal to people for the same reason <hes> so if fascinating fascinating class that was by Jesus and rocky but it made sense and so we talked about the art of storytelling in the craft and that's where the art and craft come in just how do you tell a story that's been told before but you tell it differently well how Brad Thor those last few minutes. I know we have a lot of writers. Listen to the show. They are going to absolutely love that. I just took a ton out of that. That's what I'm GONNA listen to over and over again you mentioned Stephen King actually just read his book on writing two weeks ago. I loved it. It was unbelievable. What else are you reading? <hes> so I am reading all the time in my genre but between books I like to read a lot about the art of writing the craft of writing because I don't think I'm anywhere near as good as I could be and I should be as a writer I feel there's constant room improvement and that's back to my parents. The entrepreneurs the the good solid mid Westerners that said you treat every day on the job as your first day on the as if it were your first day on the job and when I sit down to do a new book I always ask myself. Is this idea good enough and when I'm done with the Book I say is the book good enough to give me a contract at Simon and Schuster if they didn't know who I was. Is this good enough that if it was my first book I would get a deal for it and so that's really that's it's really important to me so I read a lot of books about character development and plot in story arc in all of this kind of stuff <hes> in my quote unquote off season which I'm never off but between <hes> publishing a book and being out on the road like I am now promoting a book I I'm trying to learn more about my craft. I think I will do that till the day I die. I will read books about writing and try even if only get one thing out of the book then that means I am. I buy whatever magnitude of that one thing. I'm a better writer you you mentioned you're kind of in the off season right now. I would love for you just to give a map of what a year looks like and then I'd like you to expand upon that that process of becoming a better writer so what's that year looked like for you so it's always different so I've been I've been doing this this almost for two decades now <hes> the books. It's like eight eighteen years my first book seventeen years. I've been doing it so every book is different. <hes> I try to pick a call what I do faction where you don't know where the facts end in the fiction begins. My job is devia the a white knuckle thrill ride you take it to the beach. Take it to the lake. A lot of people like to plan their vacations around the release of my books and <hes> so I do short Chris cinematic chapters because I want to entertain you but I also want to leave real life things into the books so that if you close the book having had that great white knuckle throw ride you're a little bit smarter or you know a little bit more <hes> this part of the world or this thing about spies or whatever something that was not writing a textbook this is you're not supposed to notice. You're picking picking up this cool stuff in. If you notice you're picking it up and I haven't done my job I just WanNa quietly. Weave it into the story so those those things those real life things that I spend time researching can take different amounts of time so I'll I may feel like I need a lot of runway. <hes> to before the the the writing can take off and sometimes the runways a little bit shorter and sometimes. It's an ongoing process where I am. I haven't got all the research done because I don't know which direction the books GonNa go when I'm making calls to experts during the day so the year is interesting. I can't say that my year starts with three months of just solid research in then I write for four months. Then I Polish for five it is always always different in the key for me is is can i. When do I get that idea that I mean that's the big thing I don't have the idea? I can't even start researching. I don't know what the book is going to be about. So every year is different but that's good right so I'm the guy that likes new experiences. That's constantly throwing up that well with cool things meeting. Cool people going to go places reading cool books having cool experiences and that keeps me lit. That is the stuff that really that's the fuel that I put in my in in my rocket to to get me through the year in it's different every year in you would think that having written nineteen books it gets easier but it doesn't because my good midwestern work ethic is I have to be better. <hes> <hes> there was a great every book has to be better. The bar gets raised every time so my job gets harder and harder and harder every single year just by the goals I set for myself so it's it's it's exciting. It's different every a year in it's also it's never boring in. That's what's important for me because if it was boring I wouldn't be able to do it and I've always promised my readers who are my employers. I worked for Simon and Schuster. I worked for the readers that I will never phone it in. They will always skit the absolute best. I'm capable of and I one of the books I read over. The last couple of years was a book called the content trap and the content trap dealt with <hes> the impact of the Internet on all sorts of businesses and it had all these great nuggets of of of knowledge and wisdom in there but one of the coolest ones for entrepreneurs is that <hes> one of the biggest mistakes entrepreneurs make in trying to increase their sales is they focused too heavily on perfecting the product sucked <hes> because that's the one thing they have the most direct control over and eighties a mistake according to the content trap if you've got an awesome product that your customers are raving about if you're spending a good chunk of your year tweaking that product in these are tweaks that yes admittedly make the product better but your customers aren't asking for that improvement in the product you've wasted time. You're chasing your tail. All this kind of stuff. It was great. I thought it was really cool. I'm like that's me. I'm constantly bringing the product <hes> but I can't help it. It's just who I am. It's how I was raised. My readers have not said you need to improve your product. I I feel like a half to that. I I am not honoring the trust. They put me if I'm not stretching myself further and further every year both thank you for that being a longtime <music>. I'm reader of your work. It's great to see the continual improvement. It's so funny a minute ago you mentioned certain readers will plan their vacations. I have a little vacation. My family and I are taking in two weeks so I actually have not read your newest book backlash because I just want to enjoy it purely purely on the beach while relaxing but I want to hear about that internal drive and just expanding upon your own writing skills. So what does that look like you mentioned reading books. Do you have a note taking process when trying to improve your skills. Is there anything like that yeah well yeah so. I absolutely destroy books when I read them so i. I'm only GonNa read a book on writing once okay. I'm not GonNa read it twice so I will highlight out ripped out pages. Go into a file so I actually have like an exacto knife razor blade box cutter. I've got these things all over the office and I'll I'll. I will slice out pages. They'll go into a folder. Let me give you an example of something. I just learned before I wrote backlash in. You're going to see you're going to <unk> seen in the beginning of backlash where the protagonist honors a promise he made to somebody in the the beginning of this book that very intense very dramatic action scene in the beginning of backlash and I'll tell you what inspired me to do it so I decided to look beyond just the regular writing books that here's how you write a novel. I thought you know what I like a lot of the writing. I'm seeing now in Hollywood. Let me look I talked to screenwriter buddy of mine and I said what are what are some of the big. Give me your top five to ten screenwriting books that if you were going to speak to a young up up and coming screenwriter you'd recommend he or she read these five to ten bucks. He gave me a list. I went out and bought all of them and I figured writings writing whether it's for it's it's different. It's like the difference between NASCAR and Formula One <hes> Hollywood in novels like I right but he's still got four wheels. It still goes very fast around a track in it involves a lot of technology. I'm like great all right. I'll read these read these books so there was one book <hes> called Save the cat and <hes> that's a very typical term that gets thrown on with Hollywood writers all read this book but it opens with talking about creating a special moment for the protagonist that that draws readers in two liking the protagonist in the took a scene from a movie that I loved from a longtime time ago with Al Pacino and Ellen Barkin called Sea of love in in it opens with a sting that the N._y._p._d.. Still does to this day from what I understand which is they're looking for people who haven't shown up for court that jumped bail l. all this kind of stuff. They've got an idea where these people may be but they haven't been able to track them down and arrest them so they send letters out saying you've when season tickets to the met so the Yankees whatever come down to the Grand Hyatt Hotel and we're going to have a big big thing. You're going to get your tickets. We get the players are going to be there to autographed baseballs and all this stuff congratulations you know three weeks from now Saturday morning nine o'clock so the movie opens with this sting underway the cops have deposing his like mets or or Yankees manager staff and P._R.. People get all these guys into a ballroom and they closed the doors behind him and you figure watching this that they're going to be that. They're all going to be arrested on. Moss together in the ballroom. Out Pacino is hanging out in the hallway outside inside the ballroom. In this man comes trotting in late Kinda sweating. It doesn't want to miss the opportunity to get the get the tickets and holding his hand is this little six year old boy scout us mets cap on. He's got a ball gloves got a baseball Mitt on his hand and everything we you know and this guy. This father has brought his little boy. You know they obviously love baseball together and everything in the father doesn't know he's going to get arrested. There and Al Pacino sees this in very subtly pulls back the lapel of his leather jacket shows his badge edge to the father and the father stops it just goes completely face goes white. He realizes Oh my God. This is a sting. I'm going to get arrested and the now Pacino looks at the little boy looks back at the father and winks at him and says I'll catch you later such a it's such a great seed and I thought okay that immediately makes me like him. It tells me he's smart. He's tough and that was one of the things that I learned between books last year and that had a big impact on me for how I opened or not how I open backlash but what you'll see with the protagonist in how he handles a particular situation in the beginning so <hes> again nineteenth book Sean this is me constantly trying to get better in to improve my product. We love the I love the content trap but Dan the torpedoes Dan that wisdom and advice about perfecting the product. I went full ahead in this year on tour I have had so many people. Tell me that backlash is the best book I've ever written. It is something I've always had people. Hosea read it one night. I've had more people come up to me and say I read it the day I got. It couldn't put it down already finished it. I did something I haven't done before which was to give in more to that voice inside me and trust it in let it take me in do things I've never done before my books. That took a lot of courage. I had a close my eyes in jump off the cliff. I could've done things and had a great book. No doubt top five New York Times bestseller list. I have no doubt that I've I've learned how to do that now but I really really wanted to do something more and do something different in really give readers something special in so it wasn't only the things I learned in the off year but it was also trying to turn everything inside out. Burn it all down in build it back for book nineteen <hes> because I just don't want it to get stale. I don't want people say oh. It's like the same book just said at a different. I don't ever want to get that kind of feedback from from my customers. Don't ever want that so I prevent that by. Just absolutely you know straining on some days over every word every sentence every paragraph so that I know I left everything on my laptop. There was nothing I held back. It all went into the book. Wow that is that so insightful inciteful and I love how you're constantly raising the bar. You mentioned your nineteenth book and it's great to see you not afraid to take that jump and not wait for book twenty to do that. Leap and jump off that cliff so I love that one thing I have to know about. Is your research process you you mentioned you right faction but you have to be so exact in terms of the weapons. They're using the technology. Could you talk a little bit about your research process yeah so you and I both read. I think it's funny that I would bring up Stephen King on writing and you read it two weeks ago. That's that's the universe two weeks ago when I picked it up. I loved it unbelievable. A great great book for the Writers who are listening lessons learned from a lifetime of writing by David Morale is also fabulous. David is is one of my inspirations. He's a great thriller writer in. He's the guy who wrote Rambo. Just ramble was his very first book and he's written a ton of stuff afterwards not about Rambo but he's just a really really smart guy so Stephen King David morale to great books on writing <hes> so my research prod- process I joke around a joke right. I'm pretty serious about the fact that I have no idea what it's like for Stephen King to write a book and I will never presume to say he's got it easier easier than I do but I do know this. Stephen King gets to make up his own rules because he writes about monsters and demons and all this pet cemetery and all this kind of stuff that just isn't real so he gets largely create his own rules. I have to operate within in a very specific set of rules so if I'm writing about a seal team I have to have the correct seal team. I have to have them in the correct location. All the gear and equipment has to be correct because in my business my publisher there is a B. Two B. and I'm B. C.. So I hear from the customer I hear from that consumer they find me on facebook or find me on twitter and they'll say hey brad you screwed up that gun you wrote about in that caliber doesn't exist and I will politely lately come back and say actually yes Smith and Wesson made a limited edition ten pieces for the Sultan of Brunei who not him. I hate the Sultan of Brunei to retract that. I want to get that guy a monster I hate he is the most anti freedom and liberty person so <hes>. Let's just say <hes> the King Sweden ordered Tennessee's God's being Swedish. Let's give the credit for for smart good gun buying getting something cool to King Sweden so Sweden has tended these things specifically made and then I'll share with the fan. Here's the article I found or here's the here's the thing on Smitten Weston's website about Oh we made ten of these twenty years ago for the king of Sweden and fans really appreciate that and I I've got several buckets of Awesome Fan mail all Arab categories that I put Fan mail into one of the ones that I am really proud of is when I hear from seals or I hear from people at the CIA or wherever in they say wow you got it exactly right when I was in Iraq I carried that exact doc rifle or when I was in Afghanistan I had that knife or whatever is here there you get what we're going through at Langley or when D._O._J.. Did this I was a protective <hes> agent for the Attorney General and we had at these things in our car and you nailed it to. That's a real tremendous source of pride for me so I have to get those details right so I'm constantly spending time with the people I'm writing about in. I get invited to do training things whether it's by the manufacturers of of the gear themselves or to go train and do things with people who are going to go out and do some of this nation's most dangerous business so I'm hands on in anything that you see in my books. I've probably gotten familiar with unless it's like something. That's bolted to an airframe so there's there's certain canons and stuff on a spooky gunship that I just I've never been up firing cannons out of a gun ship. It's not something they offer for even authors to do so I did in there with the details. I like these details in again. We're back to write what you love to read because that's where your passion is in my thing. My addition to that is you've got a mini P._H._d.. So I've read a lot in my genre and I like this stuff sir. I've been reading about <hes> all this gear in what these people do forever so I built up this knowledge base you mentioned being hands on. was there something maybe a weapon of course just a system one of these agencies use that just blew your mind that you can speak of <hes> well. I'll tell you one of the cool things that I did that. I did do it is the A._T._F.. Has Training facilities in Quantico Virginia <hes> where the F. B.. I. Is and I got to train screen with one of their lead firearms instructors in it was really cool. I never knew this and at eighty played into some of the training. I didn't know that the A._T._F.. Has the most gunfights out of any federal agency if the most gunfights because it's all drugs right alcohol tobacco firearms and there's a lot of drugs and stuff like this they do tons of raids and all that stuff in there gunfights happened very close in so there are a lot of techniques in neat things that they do <hes> but on top of that I learned that so when and you see Marine One helicopter that lands on the South Lawn at the White House and picks up a president they the Marine Corps White Tops helicopters. I learned that the A._T._F.. Actually trains there the pilots from those helicopters now those are marine aviators gators and they still go and get this really intense A._t._f.. Training because one of those helicopters goes down like in a bad area overseas or you know or a rough urban area in the United States I think of the movie <hes> <hes> escape from New York with Kurt Russell <hes> were New York was turned into Manhattan was turned in a maximum security prison and it was a free for all inside <hes> that was one of those cool things and I learned a bunch of stuff nothing that I'm comfortable putting out in the public because I certainly don't want to reveal oh techniques in in stuff that <hes> that federal agents us but that was one of those things where I got to do training and I was like Gosh this is cool. This is very very thoughtful. They know what they're doing and they are some amazing. Pistolero is there I can only imagine edging some of the Fun Times and things you've got to see. I WanNa know now bore about your actual writing process. You've done a lot of the research you're sitting down. What does this look like for you well so first and foremost I have no formula and I don't outline line? Every book is organic and <hes> The one thing that I will do because it helps me just kind of keep track of my beats if you will. The heartbeat of the story is in a word document. I'll create a table <hes> with I think it's normally five columns so going left to right. The first column will be a description of what's going on in that Chapter Second Column will be what chapter we in than we have day of the week in that. I have time of day at that location nation because I do a lot of international stuff and I go back and forth from D._C.. To London or D._C. to Cairo that kind of stuff I need to know you know you can't have people having lunch in both places at once right because of the time change so <hes> but what I do with that I left hand column wherever description of what's going on in the Chapter I color coded so is this my protagonist. Is this <hes> some other storyline in the book so that I can tell by glancing back at that table in word I can see okay. Hey it's been x amount of chapters. I haven't seen green which is my protagonist for four or five chapters all right. I know instinctively from the way put my stories together that I need to get back to him that whatever story I've been following a couple of story lines have been following. It's time to get back to him so that's one of the things that I do. When I sit down to write the other thing is is I want each chapter to end with a Cliffhanger Mickey? Spelane was famous for saying the first chapter sells the book. The last chapter sells the next book but all that stuff in between is really important. You have to get people from the first chapter to the last chapter in I wanted just keep the tension rod attention. I WANNA give people chance to breathe but not too much. I want you to catch your breath but I don't want your heart rate to go down. If that makes sense makes perfect sense and something I seem to have noticed over the past few books is your writing style almost seems to have changed. You've always been action packed and you capture my attention at all times but it seems like the chapters have become even slightly a shorter to capture my attention even more. Is that methodical. I think it's a process of me trying to get better. I also think we have a lot of things competing for our attention so before the Internet and stuff if you look back at like my early books Sean Chapters were much longer and I had many more storylines subplots and everything that I was weaving through the books so the again I'm creating an entertainment product and it doesn't exist in a vacuum I have there's competition for people's. Attention for their time for their dollars so I have to constantly evolve so I can stay at the top of the food chain where I am in that I remain attractive right so I'm the I'm the husband who doesn't want his wife to lose interest. I'm off and I'm lifting weights every morning and while I'd love to have have like a big huge bacon cheeseburger for lunch and a pitcher of beer. I'm not doing that. I guess I you know I'm going in and I'm having my chicken breast in in that kind of stuff because I'm trying to stay lean mean and attractive in so it's not only my personal personal life that I'm hitting it. That hard eats in my work life to again. My books don't exist in a vacuum. It'd be great <hes> I like. I say it'd be great. It'd be different if they did but I have to remain competitive and I remain competitive by constantly elite evolving. I will not be left behind. I refuse to be left behind. I won't shut down. I'm turning my kids onto music. You know I've got to teens a freshman in a junior in high school like have you heard this. I'm not trying to be too like middle allege guy. That can't let the the youth go not in that sense but it's part of who I am. I gotta feed the beast things have to I can't I can't have things stayed. The same because stagnation is death in any business stagnation is death. You've got auto lean out over the edge. Even if you're balancing razor-blade in your feet hurt you gotta do it. Stagnation is death. Is that somewhere you've you've heard that somewhere else or seen that written no that actually the first time I think I've ever uttered it really yeah so I actually have something in my my Home Office with with that saying on there it was it was the same thing I hate Stan. Yeah that's unbelievable so I don't know if I've heard that somewhere else. It just really hit me when you said that again but but I love how much attention you put into your own process constantly evolving constantly getting better. Who Do you see out there? They don't have to be a writer that has just impressed you with with that internal drive to constantly get better anyone come to mind for you. That's a great question great question so if I'm looking at from looking at brands in people trying to get a you know it's funny because I spent a lot of my time lamenting that exceptional customer service seems to be the exception not the rule <hes> so I can look at big brands in in see things that I'm impressed with you know I mean just crazy brands like Audi. I'm really impressed with with what they do in technology gene things like that and in racing in the things that they put into their cars. I just think the brand is really good and they've got a devotion to customer service. I happen to have a friend who is a builder and <hes>. This guy had everyone in his organization. Even if you're an intern you had to read the biography of Cesar Ritz <hes> who who started the Ritz hotels <hes> in learn about anticipating the customer's needs before they even have them that really blew me away but as far as somebody really famous this who's constantly again. I'm going to tie it back to Nashville where I'm from. I I've been really impressed with Taylor Swift's brand. I know she's had some legal. Battles go on but she's she's constantly cranking out hit. She's tried to keep her keep yourself aww too many cultural and political issues. I think that's a really good brand. I'm not giving you what I wish I had. If I'd known this question was coming. I would have spent time thinking about you know what when you talk to a writer and you ask a question question. They're going to give you words whether they've got an answer hot words instead of me just shutting up and saying nothing jumps to mind Shawn. Don't were you gave me Taylor swift and Cesar Ritz. I have not read that book so I'm GonNa have to check that one out. We've been going on with an hour. I know you've got gotta go. We haven't even talked about your newest book yet backlash. I mentioned I'm going to be picking that one up to read it in a couple of weeks here. What can the listeners know about this and obviously they can pick it up? Everywhere books are sold but just give us a plug here for the book sure well. It's my nineteen thriller and I tell people take the James Bond movies. It doesn't matter if you've seen all the bond movies or none of them you can go check out the latest so if you haven't read a Brad Thor book before you can absolutely start with backlash and essentially this this is this is me showing something I actually haven't even seen anybody do this. In a thriller before there is a top U._S.. Operative that has been the Thorn Been Eighth Thorn in the side of a very very bad foreign government. They risk everything to come to the United States. It's an act of war but they come over here figuring he won't see them coming. They put a bag over his head and drag him back to their country in doing the research for this book. I said I want to know what we teach our guys to escape so I plugged into several different sere instructors doctors in CR stands for survive evade resist escape and the number one thing was that if you are taken you may only get one chance to escape and you have to have already decided before that chance comes that you're gonNA take it no matter what and so the book begins with <hes> my protagonists it is getting his one chance <hes> but his code is we talked about the beginning when I talked about that Al Pacino seen he gets his one chance to escape but before he can escape he has to do one thing and there's one thing may mean he doesn't get this game but it and establish his who he is in in y the bad guys want him so bad and it's just a fun chase. There is <hes> there's a the reviewers have said it's part called the while Jack London as part the gray that Liam Niessen movie it's part the fugitive Harrison Jason Ford it's taken and a little bit of fast and furious in their eighties just a fun exciting toes in the sand book in the hand. <hes> Kinda read that again every single person I've met on the road. I'm exaggerating there but in overwhelming numbers something I have not seen before on the road. I've had so many fans. Come up to me and say you know what this is. Now my favorite book of yours. This is the most incredible thing you've ever written so <hes> we've got our fingers crossed. See what happens with the New York Times list but in the end it's not about where I sit on the Times list. It's about units sold and the greatest thing that can happen for an author. My publisher could have unlimited budget and take out ads in the Wall Street Journal and that kind of stuff but that's not as powerful as word of mouth so if you recommend I get my books because I've done a podcast in the somebody like you sean says Brad. You've gotta read this book or my dad gives me a book or my neighbors has had just finished. This one is great word of mouth. He's the best kind of promotion for an author in based based on what I'm hearing <hes> out on tour. I'm hoping that enthusiasm that readers have been <hes> the enthusiasm the readers have shared with me. They're sharing with their co workers and family and stuff like that great writers are great storytellers. You've even build up my enthusiasm for backlash. Even more. You've continued with Scott Horvath who I love that character so backlash. I cannot wait to dive into it. The listeners know of I have someone on it's because I respect them. I enjoyed their work so guys go out there. Pick it up backlash for sale right now but Brad Thorn has been a true honour someone. I've wanted to feature for a number of years so thanks for making this opportunity happen. It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me Sean have a great day. Hey guys I wouldn't tell you about the brand. I'm obsessed with right now and and you guys know I'm pretty obsessive about the brands I work with especially when it comes to athletic apparel. You guys need to check out ten thousand. You need to head to ten thousand dot C._C.. And you guys can enter code W. G. Y.. T. and you're gonNA receive twenty percent. Yes twenty percents off your entire order. Why do I love ten thousand ten thousand created the only training shorts you'll ever need? They do so by simplifying your options deliver three premium shorts that perfectly shortly cover all the ways you train. 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IBERIABANKs Beth Ardoin and Beth Trotter Discuss Work, Leadership and Investment in Community
"This is John Swift and you're listening to discover Lafayette a podcast dedicated hated to the people and rich culture of Lafayette the gateway to South Louisiana how we record in the offices of Raider solutions a technology company that it offers complete fleet of it solutions for businesses of all sizes raiders motto. Is You just wanted to work. We understand if you're wondering if writer Peter can help your business. Please visit Raider Solutions Dot Com. I'd like to thank Iberia Bank for its support founded in eighteen eighty. Seven Iberia Bank is the largest bank based in Louisiana headquartered in Lafayette with three hundred twenty nine combined locations throughout the south they offer the resources of a National Bank Inc with the personal touch of a community bank visit Iberia Bank Dot Com for more information and lastly. I want to express my gratitude for Lafayette General Health as a Katy Anna's largest nonprofit community on regional health system. Lafayette General Health is committed to restoring maintaining and improving health in the communities it serves for more information visit Lafayette General Dot Com. We have two guests in the studio from Iberia Bancorporation Today. I I'd like to introduce Beth or Gwen who has been with the bank since two thousand two with the background in print media in publishing she currently serves a senior executive vice president and director of communications facilities in human resources as well as Chief of staff for CEO Daryl Bird Beth also serves on the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta's New Orleans branch joining her about trotter who joined Iberia Bank ten years ago as the staff attorney and who is now an executive vice president and C. R. A. Officer C. R. A. Stands for the Community Reinvestment Act. A law directs spanks to help meet the credit needs of low and moderate income neighborhoods of the communities in which they operate. Beth is a graduate of Tulane Law School in an active board member of Habitat Tat for humanity having served as the women bill chair in two thousand seventeen and twenty eighteen so beth one and Beth to be one and B two as you tell me welcome to discover cover Lafayette. Thanks for having US yeah having this chain. I've been looking forward to this for so many reasons first of all thank you both on behalf of Iberia Bank for Sponsoring Our podcast. It's really really been much appreciated and I'm really excited about the opportunity for you to let people get to know you and what you do for the bank and opportunities for women women in leadership positions so Beth Arden. If we can start with you you have really moved up the ranks. Now you started out in in media is that yes is that correct and you talk about that sure started out as a sales executive for the times of ACADIAN A- way back when after college when it was owned by Steve May and Jerry Fisher May and really I've been so fortunate to have sort of two stops in my career both with the Thai one with the times and the second with Iberia having a chance to work with leaders executives who really believe in women's advancement in the workplace creative leaders really believe in thinking out of the box and really approaching life from different angles so right really too great to great opportunities in my career riot and when I said moving up the ranks what I'm really referring to is you've earned these positions and I didn't WanNa Miss Speak on that but you have had some opportunities that I think a lot of people are just you know to get to serve on the the board of the Federal Reserve Bank and all this if you can talk about what your role all is I bury a bank and and what led you to to have that opportunity on the Federal Reserve. Yes thank you I joined the bank at a time when it was really in Transition Sarrebourg bird his senior team our senior team had just joined the company and the bank was being converted from a thrift to a more traditional commercial bank and so so as a small company just serving Louisiana at the time Darryl really wanted to focus on marketing communication public relations efforts that were more tailored toward our target audience which were privately held businesses commercial businesses that we really could serve best so I came on board at that time and really focused on public relations as the company grew and changed think as Jerry mentioned back in the spring when you had them here we've done more than twenty five acquisitions over the seventeen years or so have been there so we really have grown and expanded across the southeast and with that came the opportunity to to take on more responsibility ability everything from facilities which is the management of are least An- own facilities to our expanded marketing efforts I and human resources as well which is pretty interesting part of the job why thirty six hundred associates yeah so I'm looking back you joined before Katrina and Rita eight ahead which was a pivotal year for Louisiana in two thousand five and then just within a couple years after that that is really when they explosive growth of Iberia Bank began. I know it's continued but your role had to expand pretty dramatically I mean how many states are you in nail. We're in assay. A nine zero nine states bank Lebanon to offer Mortgage Ryan our mortgage office yet influx right now we've had some changes with mortgage but yes so we have our first sort of jump out of Louisiana was into Arkansas and then both through acquisitions and de Novo initiatives we've jumped across the southeast so Florida Texas the Carolinas Georgia Alabama so we really have a wide footprint across that region right now. I've spoken with Judy Lucerne who works with you in your marketing department and the markets that you're in while they're mainly. I guess the south southeast southern part of the US the markets are different and so what people are expecting from banking and Louisiana. I'm sure quite different than South Florida right. We've got retirees and the high percentage of Wealth Fund. I mean our jobs gone because you know while we crossed. We're we're a large regional bank now. Well we really make sure we continue to customize our experience for our clients and our brand in those markets so what we do from a marketing standpoint and a client service standpoint in Key West certainly differs from what we do in Atlanta Houston Dallas or New York so we make sure that through people like judy some of our great teammates teammates that the experience for our clients is very customized we we have obviously common brand and common mission statement that we all live by but but we deliver a very personalized experience through people like Judy leaders like Jerry throughout our footprint right. Do you have to travel a lot for your position listen. I do travel quite a bit. I mean everything from visiting the markets to conferences or other special engagements that we signed up at for It's just hard to believe bank. That's gotten this big. It's still based right here right here and Acadian so south trotter if we can jump over to your role at the bank and then I want to let you both talk after that you are you work under the CR a the community reinvestment act and I know you started out as a staff attorney attorney and you've you've earned this position also and it's something that I've heard about a lot just in the real estate you know in the workup done but would you explain explain what you do and what Iberia Banks Role is in that in helping low to moderate income communities share so the community reinvestment officer manages the community outreach outreach programs and the mortgage products and the specialized products that we have throughout the company so we're in nine states from the bank perspective bank branches in nine states so what I do is I managed that program and so at a high level community reinvestment is about lending investment and service to low income communities and very small businesses and so managing our program and put forth our team throughout the footprint right in so while you do that while you're assisting people that might have some issues in getting a conventional loan you still have have to focus on safe and sound lending practices and that's of course part of the regulation is Um to help communities and small businesses in a safe and sound banking men or so of course that's an overarching arching concern and that remains the case even even though you know Sierra does make special products we make specialized products in the TDA checking accounts. Don't savings accounts mortgage programs mortgage grants so we do a lot of things that are especially targeted but within safe and sound banking practices always so what what how does it work like if somebody is trying to establish good credit. They've got a small business. They want to start up. How do people know about this. Is it something you market directly early or people. How do they find out about these programs. We do we we. We'd have a myriad of different you know different products in targeting different types of folks of definitely we do small business outreach we work with nonprofit partners in communities. Such as habitat for humanity are united way or urban league. We do a lot in fact just had a couple of calls this morning with Urban League where you're going to partner with entrepreneurships nor ships centers who are focused on women and small women and minority owned small business in New Orleans so that's a new partnership that we're creating. We'll be working with entrepreneurship centers in several markets ARQUETTE's Atlanta New Orleans and Houston as well so we we reach out to nonprofit partners across the footprint to create strong partner partner working relationships and so that is one way that we do outreach we also do a lot of marketing. If you look at the home mortgage side for example we have five specialized one in house created created special ed portfolio product but we five specialists products for Sierra so we look for the opportunities to market whether it's facebook traditional print material emails we have a marketing group in mortgage you know sort of specifically targets those opportunities and we also have partners throughout the footprint we work with housing counseling being agencies how to prove partners that we give money to donate any money to them to support their programming and their efforts and we also have grant program where we sponsor downpayment assistance so we give away up to one thousand first responders five thousand or first time homebuyers four thousand dollars and that's a grant. That's a gift that we are providing providing to those homeowners to help down payment. Assistance in closing costs only covers quite a bit so people have to qualify obviously and then this is something that the federal government has imposed on banks now right. We said well we encouraged or are you. Directed Sierra is a federal a loss you. You have to meet the needs in. That's a very broad umbrella so but there is a test we we get examined by the Fellers Bank of Atlanta about every three years three to four years so there's there are three components lending investment service but within those components we are at liberty to do a great deal of different things so the federal law does not mandate us to do anything very specific specific. Let me give this mini grants. Give the grant program is optional. We created that because we wanted to to do it. There are a lot of banks that do not have grant programs similarly. We created created a portfolio mortgage product. What that means we created a specialized product that we offer and we don't sell it most banks. this is a bit of minutia maybe but Amini regional banks and most small banks will sell their loans so you originate alone and then you sell it to a larger third party software so that's very very common but we created a portfolio product that we hold in house within our mortgage company we service that for the life of the loan and those are specialized products geared only to first time homebuyers so we're pretty proud of that we create that product special four for our group for Sierra and then like I said the Mortgage Grant Program that we instituted about six years ago. We spent just oh just last year over one point five million and so we gave away one point five million dollars. Just I members we gave away over three million dollars for Sarah related causes in general but specifically one point five million in mortgage grants and we're over. I believe we're close to a million this year and we'll go over that against September third yeah so pretty exciting. It's a it's a huge investment and it's we feel really well. Well well worth it. It's we see a lot of impact for. It's the repayment rates are pretty good like people they satisfy their mortgage. We still have credit scores and there's still a lot of requirements and we're not we're not giving the loan it's alone when it's not a gift and of course folks have to qualify we have slightly less stringent standard slightly lower credit score a little bit of Alternative Credit Score Abe illnesses uses maybe traditional products now you've been so involved with habitat for humanity and that's a great example of where you can leverage your community resources the banks thanks volunteers and get deserving people in homes that would never have had a chance without those partnerships being played and we're partnered with probably twelve to fifteen habitat affiliates. It's across our nine state footprint. I of course I'm very partial to our Lafayette Habitat for five years and they do amazing work and tend to twelve houses per year earm- really excited to be on the board. I've been with Bill Chair as you indicated fast two years what's Nice about that relationship and we have many such relationships with our nonprofit partners throughout the footprint is we call it the sort of CRA truck factor so we have a line of credit to them. So we have a loan habitat. I sit on the board and we have numerous other volunteers. We have that service service hours hours aspect and then we also donate money to them every year and we buy from them on the back end as I mentioned most smaller banks will sell loans. LAFAYETTE HABITAT HABITAT is a lender mortgage lender so they originate loans and we buy them that I see what's more capital back into the organization to do more lending so we're pretty proud of that relationship and as as I mentioned we have several of strong affiliate partnerships throughout the footprint that resemble that setup what I've always been impressed with too not just habitat but in particular the habitat that there's such a low default rate pl are excited to give their homes a they make their obligations single digits false. It's very impressive and that goes to the speaks to the amount of time spent with each of those individuals so they each one hundred hours of work on their homes as well as other folks homes in this case usually the mccomb visa neighborhood which is where we're focused. Lafayette right now but also they have a lot of financial literacy literacy. Excuse me classes. They also have home maintenance glasses of courses they. I fully understand the financial burden. They're accepting their challenge. They're taking and they understand what they need to do to keep that I know amenable to their total title financial package in their picture and they're all working at least one job many of them to jobs and and they as you indicate they want their home. They're taught how to manage money a little oh better maybe than they were before and they're also taught how to maintain their homes. I think we could all use those classes though no matter what income rambler background so Beth aardwolf and you've been sitting there nodding is about it's been talking about this. You have to keep up not only with what Beth is doing with. Cra But your job encompasses everything the thing that Iberia Bank is doing. Are there some initiatives no one. I had Jerry Vasca cute here earlier in the year. We talked about the opportunity zone. There's so many things going going on in banking. I mean you've got to keep your finger. If you've got to stay current on everything well the you know the great thing is I work with people like this who become experts in in their area and Beth has become a true expert that people across the country turn to about. Cra says he really has done a fantastic job bribery bank but also for the industry she really has become a sought after an expert so fortunate to work with her and many other leaders like her in the bank. you know we're we're in a privileged position. We recognize that where we get a chance to focus on equality for people within the company and outside the company Iberia Bank has such a community minded spirit about about it that we take very seriously so in through bathroom. Cra more through other charitable partnerships or through other learning learning opportunities were really focused on again our internal clients and our external clients and making sure that their lives are enriched through their experiences with us right before we started the podcast has to we were speaking about women in leadership and I think it's just industry-wide in banking in insurance rents other financial sectors probably about one in five of the top leaders or leadership team or women and I'm sitting here with two with Iberia Bank but which touch on that some Beth are on about what you've seen because I know you're getting like a national view from your position with preparing for the podcast. I was trying to think about you know the last twenty years or so and I think the conversation early on was really about either stayed home and you were stay at home mom or you're a working king. Mom and I think the conversation today is completely different right where women fifty percent of the workforce is women now in so I think the conversation is really there for women too. It's not about whether or not you're GONNA work. It's it's how you're going to be successful at working and making sure you're providing a great life of your family and so I think it's a great time for women in the workplace. Certainly the financial industry has lagged a little bit when you look at the top of the House and how many female leaders are sitting in that the the top C. Suite but the industry certainly has changed in there lots of opportunities. I mean we look at our company lots of women in leadership positions Brian. I think it's just a little bit of a hangover from the past but there's no better time than now I think for women to really find their spot and take take opportunities that there for them right you know and I think back about it. Many of the the mail bankers said I know that our top feels they've been in banking their whole life and so they've they've just like YouTube. They've worked their way up. earning you know promotions and leadership roles but they tend to stay in banking and so oh you have to have positions open right fill them with younger men women people of all backgrounds and so that's probably part of it and in other fields you might see people hopping around more from company to company but in banking they might move from bank to bank but they stay in that industry and so. I I guess that's what you're saying. Though yeah I think having a great retention rate for our company but like you said for the industry bankers like to bankers and so I think that provides potentially a few opportunities to advance at a faster rate but I definitely see the industry changing and improving and and and Beth out on the in the speaker circuit as well and she sees I'm sure are the same a lot of women who are in great leadership positions making a difference right so you serve on the Federal Reserve Board and when I when I learned that I guess you know a few years back I was so impressed I mean they. They set policy right you. You provide data on the industry is well yes so now retired but as of a served until last December and it was a it's a big honor so the way that the the advisory boards work is that each district has advisory boards in its main cities so I served on the Sixth District New Orleans Advisory Board which is basically cly seven people by law only two can be bankers so of the seven people the the commitment is to bring on the ground information anti-dole information about what's really happening in our local economies back to the district back to the economists who are thin advising the policy makers so it's it's a great sort of grass level route in a grassroots effort to bring real information to those that are making decisions so if I if I may ask even though you're not serving anymore and publicized for not having that correct on my show notes where is Louisiana compared to the rest of the South East. I mean I read the paper and hear about our jobs. You're lagging. That's those kind of things your reporting but little yes those are the things that are being reported as as well as you know all the different the sixth district is reports up to Atlanta so it's a it's a big district including Florida and parts of Alabama Mississippi so oh they're different economic cycles happening even within that one district so those of us though representing certain geographic areas do report on that and and also talk about what creative solutions may be on the horizon to try to help with job with jobs in your market so that'll affect at some point interest rates or yes how how does it alter out like us up basically the information bubbles up and then the obviously the policy makers news or using that information to decide on how they're. GonNa vote on interest rates there's so many things that go into our economic conditions and I think about just even when the president tweets something about tariffs. I'm sure that sins markets it's fascinating. It's fascinating process and then yeah the tide stern so it's about our way on we've talked about you have proximity thirty six hundred employees throughout Iberia Bank Doc. I understand there's some mentorship programs. There are some programs in place that can help people. You know find out more about the business how they can grow and Can you talk about that. Some absolutely we're really proud of the progress we're making banks industry to happens to be heavily female even though not at the top of the top of the company our companies about sixty percent female but we want to put programs in place to for for males and females emails but some that are specifically designed for females to make sure that we are advancing people throughout the company so just over the last couple of years. We've made tremendous strides writes in that area we have hired a diversity and inclusion officer. Monica Sylvain who's really fabulous she resides New Orleans but she's responsible for DNA across the company and with her addition we started diversity and Inclusion Council which encompasses people from across the company all different different layers in the company and it's been a really interesting group of people we think we know so much until you actually bring people to to the table and hear about their daily lives their perspectives what they think we can do better so that that council I think has done and will continue to to really help us. push people through the company in a much faster pace we also started mentorship program about two years ago and everyone throughout the company is eligible to participate in it really has opened up the dialogue between people with people across the company so so as I mentioned we have a wide footprint and so there are many many associates who will never actually meet in person this gives people a chance to you know build relationships. CBS across geographic lines across areas of responsibility and and help support ask questions that they need answer to help them advance in their careers yeah yeah and one more thing we did start women unlimited it's a national program but we selected about twenty one females female leaders jers who already leaders in budding leaders and our company to participate and Beth actually is one of the participants and the bax four has been fantastic. It's a it's a really life changing experience for them so we're really proud of what we're doing there. Beth Trott you WanNa talk some about that I will I'm in the fourth corps covert so I'll tell you that I actually don't start the programs uh-huh specifically until later this winter but super exciting like I have had the opportunity to mentor four people over the past two years and the great thing about about that program is it's a nine you know stressful way for the younger you know less seasoned members of our our team to speak to someone confidentially. WHO's not their boss WHO's not not? HR But can ask just any question they like a safe place to be open and as best said they're all the companies have people several men men ts here but also have one in New Orleans one in Birmingham Birmingham. We've never met but we talk on the phone. Once a month he was from a year and a half ago but the program is structured to be six months and you have scheduled calls once a month for six months but an invariably invariably talked to those people forever so I mean t still talk go on all the time she's great and she someone moving up in a company she is a female who will go far and integrate things and so and and she's. I think she would tell tell you what she's told me. Is You know really benefit from having the ability to pick up and call call. Beth kinda just anytime anywhere. No one's going to get reported back. I just GONNA ask her okay. What I do my bosses sending me mixed signal. What do you think about this you know and so it's ability to share been working for over twenty years and she's only been working for you know say five and so oh it's a great program and I know other companies do have programs but this one is. I feel extremely successful. Because the regular conversation that happens with all committee's even though the program six months come gone for some of them were all also in communication and I can remember when I started working at a law firm in New Orleans in Nineteen ninety-four. You've love to have that yeah wondered partners who were talk with but it wasn't a structured program and I know that there were probably a couple associates who who didn't have that report with anyone senior and I think it makes a world of difference and I'm proud of our our our company really leading that in pushing it and really big way and same with women unlimited. I mean we do have six percent of our workforce well. They're not in the C. Suite but we have a few leadership. We have strong women leaders and this program is a huge financial investment. It's a huge investment in the capital of our associates and we'll you know it's gonNA benefit us all individually but it's also going to benefit and brass up as a company and you know so super or exciting. I've talked to several women who've already gone through the cohorts one through three already ongoing and they have just said it's amazing. I mean your ability to rethink How you're doing your job every day. How you're leading people how you working with your teams heavy responding to those above you in the sweet and you know my Caso. I'm extremely excited. It's it's again. It's a huge investment and capital associates in time and energy of our of our company some. I'm excited that they're doing it and can't wait to participate WANNA resource. I just you know when you were talking talking about your young days as an attorney and same for me. I didn't have anybody I could really go to and there is no safe place right. I mean you didn't show any vulnerability and sometimes you have to write right. You just don't know what's the best move but having this has got to be just a joy voice. Yes and I think all asked all programs. We just is touched on has empowered our females to have a voice it gives them a platform teammate you know and the confidence is a confidence offense builder to say we believe in you investing in you and we're giving you the ability to have a voice so they can speak for themselves along these lines banking banking is a people business. It's a service industry yet. It's been disrupted by technological advancements and I wanted to save Yucca touch on Matt in whatever way you feel comfortable but I know when I go in Nigeria bank branches. There are tellers physical people but not all banks have that anymore and things research changing so fast so I guess two questions you know. How is it affecting Iberia Bank in second if someone is listening and interested in a bank in career I mean what paths do you take are you. It or is this question making sounds a dancer changes. Absolutely I mean I think all industries. These are changing right. There's so many disruptors coming out as faster than ever before but certainly the banking industry it has its its share of it. P think back to being in line with you know how you re using your card writing a check. That's no longer a conversation so today's. Today's disrupters are pretty intimidating. EMINATING the top four banks in the country you know own the the lion share of deposits and they have the ability to can't continue to be disruptors in our industry industry so for those of us that are not the top four we have to continue to think about and make sure we own and understand the responsibility of maintaining relationships chips and that's the value of having people right is exerting tain their relationships and so even in Lafayette. I'm sure that's what you're alluding to. one of the major banks has removed tellers from their branches and try. They're trying to focus just on technology. it doesn't feel good yeah. We're not there yet. We're not. They and I don't see us going. We truly believe you know. We're still a commercial bank. We still while it certainly Acadian. We offer a lot of consumer banking opportunities we really believe in relationships in that is still part of a critical part of our foundation so there are lots different parts of the bank for for people to work in as we see young people come through either internships or in a training program. Almost everyone immediately says wow I didn't realize realized banking offered so many different types of career opportunities not just being a traditional banker so it certainly Cra compliance and compliances appliances that is is a big deal definitely a growing part of the company of the industry. audit accounting finance marketing lots the different aspects of the company in indefinitely tremendous number of career opportunities. That's exciting yes. You don't think about that just think banking so they don't have to just have a business degree. It could be anything from accounting counting to legal legal there. You Go back yeah big legal team with. I'm not part of that team anymore. But it's good it's good. It's now number numerous banger numerous lawyers throw yeah. I WANNA get an a plug for one of your employees. Sheila tiptoe is a good friend of mine and last Friday. I did a cash closing where it was several hundred thousand dollars and you don't see those a lot without alone but it was a cash purchase and so I needed to wire money and I hadn't done that in a few years. I used to have a big practice register would pick up the phone and do water transfers but that isn't the case right now so I thought who is. GonNa help me with us and I called she loved and I I just loved having a person person that I trusted and we went through together but it just I was uncomfortable because to me it's like there goes the money would if I don't put the right little one little digit and he goes to the wrong place so I really enjoy having those personal relationships and in particular with Iberia. We banks these guys yeah yeah she goes. We're here with Jason. Sikora and you have been busy writing notes over here have some questions you hidden a couple of them a little bit so. I want to dig in as well first of all. Thank you for being here. I love the B WanNa be too. That's awesome so you do a lot of different stuff apparently like it's finance marketing synergy project management. What drew you to this kind of position for me Beth. It's really it was really the opportunity to say yes us to do something. I'd never done before and that really has as Jan started the podcast that was her question is while you've moved up the ranks kind of what got you there just for me. My experience has been of course working with fabulous people who believed in me but just saying yes I mean I've taken on responsibilities through the years that had no idea how that was going to pan out or really had no experience in and just taking a leap of faith breath really makes a huge difference love that answer we talk we talk about that in a previous podcast has jumped in the river and see where it goes be to how about you all have a similar answer in that when I so going way back I lived in New Orleans for Katrina. My family decided to move here post Katrina so moved here in one year after I didn't work for ten years so I went once. I you know you make it pivots in life so you know I turned and forty and said what am I gonNa do with this law degree. It's now or never and just so happened that fortuitous managed to judge my kill in this court federal courthouse needed Komo emergency sort of fill in lachler so it was amazing. It was like friend of a friend you'll go back to work. Wow this job just opened. He needs someone he his clerks taking a leave of absence and with him on a Friday got my badge afternoon. E hard man started Monday morning had ten years. That was fun. It was great fun actually so I was with him almost six months and so great way to Segue back into practicing law that had been in a firm in New Orleans so didn't know a whole bunch of lawyers Aaron Lafayette and then I knew them all after Corcoran from to tell and so I had an opportunity to work. I think I had three law firm offers finish that job but you know interestingly our CEO Dairibord called me to be on the board of Trustees of our kids school and USA because he was rolling off and I said well thinking about going back to work and he's like oh well. You got to come talk doc meals. Let's talk both right. So course I ended up talking with him at three law firm offers and I thought and I've been a law firm so I know how to do that. I knew that job well but then I had this really cool bank opportunity and thought you know what he's a mover and Shaker this bank is I knew enough about the bank to know they were growing doing and I thought you know what that's going to be way more interesting a lot more fun and sure enough it has been and still is today so it was a good choice ten years long bon very cool so you talked about. disruptors reminded me about a month ago. I got a check for my mortgage company because they're paid too much escrow and went. I have to go to the bank. Now I find some time and then I was like no I can use my phone and deposit this. This is so amazing. What are there any new technologies and say the next few years as you guys have seen it that might disrupt things even a little bit more because I've heard I mean those polls online so that tellers are going away and everything's GonNa be electronic. Ron and things will be on your phone and have you seen any new technologies that are gonNa really well no not the it world the technology world but no. I mean certainly as you just mentioned the ability for for clients to bank wherever they are twenty four seven is an amazing the opportunity for for clients and for banks to really think about how to deliver their products and services interestingly if you think about it banks like ours even as we add more technology we've still held onto the original delivery system so while we have fewer branches than before we still have branches we still have bankers we still have ATM's we still have checks and now we have of course credit cards and debit cards and remote capture deposit deposit capture here at Iberia. If you banked with us you could you can of course deposit your checks into the ATM in your cash so there there's always going to be emerging technology and certainly they'll be continuing disruptors for sure well auto data that is while definitely. I'll turn delivery. livery electronic banking is the way of the future but it's not going to replace the branches in what the FDIC studies have shown. You're in you're out. They do study every other year. Branching ranching is that while folks are moving to alternative delivery as an additional way of banking they still want to walk into branch every once in a while so and that that's true regardless of your income so that's low middle upper doesn't matter what your income level is at some point you still want to go in a bank and so that's not going away so as. Beth has indicated we have definitely shrunk our footprint. Brent and and you know have have pruned branches because they are not seeing as much foot traffic as they used to but those alternate delivery methods are not going to replace branches so branches are critically important still and will remain in particularly in the low income neighborhoods as well as everywhere else so you know. I think that the next wave will be all fully electronic loan docs. You know you don't have the ability to open or close all different types of loans today you can use unlimited loan closings on online but really that one still requires paper and so you can open up you can open accounts online but I think we'll see more of electronic everything everything eight z all the different types but that's still in progress right now. That would be a miracle host to the three inch stack. I think we're getting to that yeah and I think in a community like Acadia where we love relationships right. We like to into the same table and break bread. having a tangible brand. I think still matters ladders. I think so too and you know we had on Jason a couple months ago. David Joseph he's the US attorney for the western district and he was talking about how banks thanks such as yours and others really with technology now they can detect fraud so much quicker and it helps protect people against scams because they'll see trends and they'll see deposits deposits being made that looked kind of fishy and I know all the technology that we don't even see behind the scenes is really where a lot of your services are by helping protect. Act Your depositors. Absolutely I mean we've we. It's it's our responsibility right to. s- to stay current with the latest and greatest ability to protect our clients. It's insane. We absolutely do that yeah. That's coming from an IT company. It's so tough to keep up with but it's important that's what we have so many graphs on the screens and here's he's we see in the world and we have to hop on it right away advice for females who want to get into finance do what you do he mhm so we both. I think see ourselves as nonfinancial bankers wearing clearcutting in legal yes yeah we we have we have wonderful responsibilities but we're not bankers but as I mentioned earlier there's so many different aspects of of a bank whether you're coming in from the financial side to be a banker or from the financial side to be in finance or accounting compliance is really an emerging field. audit is still an important part of the bank. BSA as John Just mentioned Bank secrecy at we have a large of people committed to to to be essay and that's really really important in the banking industry so I could go on and on with the lots of probably surprising opportunities within banks. Thanks in addition to just the traditional financial garage but you don't have to Nestle study finance to go work at a bank excellent be to question. I love that I really do big shoutout to habitat for humanity and can you just talk about. Maybe for a minute about what they do sure. I'm happy to and I feel bad. I should still the thunder Melinda Taylor. Maybe you'll have your cast. HABITAT IT broadly sleep is helping people realize their dream of home ownership and it's a hand up. It's not a handout so the program some people the misconception that habitat just gives houses to people like like they won the lottery or something is very far from the truth in fact homeowners have an application process. We go through their one or two rounds per year. We're about entering. We're actually about inner around right now. Suave Hundreds of applicants for maybe twenty slots available they go through rigorous financial counseling they do hard labour in and construction of their homes and helping others in the mccomb visa neighborhood which is where we're focused right now they have to have their credit standards. They do look at alternative credit. Let like renter phone bills. You know cell phone bills. Maybe the traditional credit terms don't look at but there is still a minimum sort of credit requirement limit as well and those those homeowners will go through approximately a two year program before they ever get the keys to their house and again. It's highly organized structured structured programming around home maintenance a financial literacy which we Barry Bank teach financial literacy and and all of our markets including helping habitat do that when they need so you know it's fairly rigorous program and it is it's zero interest loan when we give a donation to habitat and they get federal funding as well as a five five. Oh One C. three non profit. We're helping people with the affordability of the house but they are still buying the home. They are signing a mortgage. They're closing habitat is is actually closing that loan for homeowner and they do have a much smaller cost because of the money that is donated in-kind goods that are donated make the home cheaper than otherwise would be so it's under two hundred thousand dollars to buy a really nice quality three bedroom home and so it's it is truly a hand up rather than a handout and it's a wonderful program again as agenda two. It's got those mortgages at very low like less than five percent default rates these homeowners these hunters pay their their bills on time they ended up owning a home and it's a change of a lifetime for them because they are now invested invested in an asset that they own and then it's helping their future generations as well and it raises property values everyone revitalizing neighborhoods that that had been neglected for a while and you can see the difference. Is You know the the core of Lafayette in other towns to it is. We just wish we could do more homes but money. He doesn't grow on trees but it's it's a critically important program. Thank you for mentioning that I thought it because you've talked about it and I've about five have boxes of vinyl saw fit for habitat for humanity and if they were open this Saturday I would've went but restored at the Liberty Week and they were suppose so but no during my Rajini down the radio and we also donated this massive shelving unit. We had to actually have them out and take it apart. It was so big it wouldn't fit our front door so great great good to your house and the nicest people in the world and I know this is about Iberia Bank but just want to give it to them now. So thank you both for being here your this has been awesome and Jan obviously always thank you for letting me ask that question. Thank you Jason. Thanks for taping this show of course solutions for helping us while I want to thank thank both Beth arden and Beth trotter B one and B two again kidding you guys but thank both baths for taking time out of your work day to come share. Not only would I be bank does is but just share opportunities for all of us in the banking industry and I'd like to thank our listeners to for being so loyal you can find this podcast and all of our podcast at discover Lafayette Dot net. Are you can subscribe by going to the little icon on your found. It's a low podcast icon and you can have this delivered to your phone. 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3045: The Beyhive w/ Wil Cope
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I'll be the Goodwin just saying love. Thank you. Keep them girl for saving my life. And then Keith are the real superheroes. This planet needs God damn Nita Cape. So thank you, buddy. That's nice list. My wishlist, ladies and gentlemen. Today's guest co host along with our favorite Courtney. Mcginnis of narcissist. Does a podcast for you about us. You're welcome. He's already shaking, right? Shake your titties? I'm we'll cope ya. He comes with his own insurance. I'm just so excited to be here. Thinking. When did you meet a Courtney for years on my God, we go way all the way back? We met junior year of high school of fashion field trip. Like, I like gave up a credit bust my ass, according to high school and actually drove a minivan and took this fashion class that was like, very bootleg. But it got us here. We're kind of school is this a fashion class. It was like a magnet class. It was. So there were so many there's twenty six high schools in this northern Virginia county, and so some of them had specially like classes, essentially could like do you could take Korean or you could take like hotel management or you can take like fashion design. So it was like if you had an idea of what you wanted to do what you wanted to major in you could give up an elective and like use that time to drive across county to thank another class, and you're a fashion designer now, I am. So it worked out for like a few of a slim on what's out there today. Oh, I'm interesting. That's a real question. Right. Just hold something out of his ass. And you're like, let me take this. To act like I'm talking about. Keep getting paid. What do you specifically designed? So I designed menswear. So that's where my head's going. And honestly the nineties are very hot right now. So you're not everything's been like skinny jeans and like, very Taylor and stuff. So like things are kind of getting bigger looser fit, which I appreciate because honestly, it's bulking season. You know, I'm talking about my low. So it's various news when he hears that tone. He has to go. Hello. We're already five, and that's very much the call respondent. I like, no. So yeah, it's kind of getting like Lucerne like brighter to color blocking coming back and logo all that kind of crazy shit. We saw now the late nineties, and I love ninety nine it's like seventies. Plus like a little more comfort. Exactly, sure. But like breathable fabrics and a little edgy me. So with all of that fashion. Knowledge, you're wearing a sweatshirt help me understand. It's just comfy cash. I'm trying to give this like noodles color palette. I don't know. This is like it's like a blush peanut butter. I see what you know words. A sweatshirt is fact exactly as long as you like. Swayne for those listening. Listening to Brown sweatshirt. I'm going to tell my girlfriend. I'm comfy. It's really about the finesse. You also designed shoes what's new in those? So. Get into the shoes they still have a soul. So dad's leakers are the thing. And I'm giving the ugliest shoe possible. It looks like my bones are broken it. That's the vibe. Sorry. The podcasts aren't like ads. Visuals. They need to be close. We'll posted on our website and the app, but they they're puffy in weird ways. Yeah. Right. Like, Billy fat. Exactly. It's very like. So what is something that like your dad would wear count him for like put that on and pull it off? Keith, you're so in fashion doing it, right? Honestly, dad styles the wave check in the boxes L. I meant like fifteen years. Everything comes back around. Just wait it out honestly for real just don't up and you'll be cool. Yeah. I don't wanna take away your job. But just keep your same on. This leads drew a broken clock rate times. It's two times a lifetime. I'm coming around. Like, we mentioned we've been taught casting for fourteen years and once a year can deny go to steakhouse. We would never normally go to we find that a little extravagant, quite frankly, we're not that kind of people. But we're like, you know, what we're gonna spend too much money. We're going to get too many appetizers, and we're gonna have a good time. And it was so fun and the, but I think I'm over steakhouses in that these waiters. What is it? We're that's the Sharm to not give let Saint sit next to me with all your pieces of flair. But I am saying. How about a alot? Now, a lot of people are either they're like for business or like, you see a bunch of men's dinners because they can only mean at stake O's very testosterone in the room. But it's also like meant I thought it was meant to be romantic now, you know, he, and I are not dating. Yeah. Yeah. Off napkins. Yeah. But the waiters like their clothes don't fit right on them. And I'm only saying that because the career waiters were paying way too much money for everything so upstairs in a static. That's not happening. And even though like I'm going to say like there was no romance. I don't want romance between Keith. But I want a five an atmosphere Yelm. Yes, ace let me let me wipe off your table before we bring the next course, it was just like everyone's shit. I'm of shit. Here's some steak, and it's every ten star steakhouse that we've ever been to few lineup waiters from a diner. From a cafe I will pick out the steakhouse fucking waiter. Every single time. His hair is unkempt. No matter. What about it is? It's always an I have big ridiculous hair. But their hair somehow is just this is meat on that somebody's hair. No your hair over you want. But like it's a fucking steakhouse like at least be put together by the right size. Blazer? What is going on? Looks like when they left their house to Muslim it looks like machine wash the sue. And then put it on. Like in the back. You know, what I mean like with the cloud napkins. Gain and lose weight where the same sues aims as a matter. Now, it's a it's a definitely Kamaruddin attitude. And again, I guess if it's every stakeout it has to be part of the charm like it has to be classes, right, right? Like, you wait on me and we'll practice and they go Hello in the go cut cut for what? What's that training? Video like. There's something they're like, hey. So if you're feeling good, you should probably not you know, what I mean? You know, what you should just like give his like knock something around before you come. We've been in the steakhouse industry for years. And here's what we've learned when somebody asks for a crab cake. You don't say coming right up because then they're waiting for you, don't talk and walk away on the crab cake shows up there pleasantly surprised pride and then justifies a sixty dollar tip. Honestly, maybe there is that method to the madness like how about we actively lower expectations as the evening goes. So by the time, it's over you're like, it wasn't so bad. Seriously. They really did that by the time desert came we saw this thing on the menu that chocolate caramel some word. We didn't get me one that I feel like I should Google. But I'm scared to pull out my phone like, and I'm like, that's what I'll say. Say what is what is a caramel? Chocolate pot Hendel those pot so works. But we got a feeling based on their attitude. It's not pot. It's basically your classic pot. I have to find that on my own. It's moose of what's. Yeah. In moose was like not include us at all. Now, one word of moose, which is fine. You know, like you gotta make us talk to the waiter because we're an experience he doesn't know shit even doing here. Now also next us the table next us I had to use my flashlight on my phone to look at the menu relatable. Thank you. Jan I realized I don't realize that my flashlight is still on. I'm just holding my phone like an asshole. So I'm like flashing a light on this Dudek. And so he politely was like, hey, you're flashing the land on me. And I'm like, oh my God. I'm so sorry. He's like, no big deal, whatever. But then I'm like, he's a celebrity, and I flashed my light on. Oh, why I'm recording? You. Host shit. Meanwhile, I don't know what celebrity because I'm so bad. It's everybody's but you just know he's famous. I if I know who you look like you have got to be famous. So now, I don't know how to describe this to Keith I said normally he plays a Ginny older, I don't know possibly Jewish put nine. Zoe the character. He plays would also be at that steakhouse. Working. Yeah. Yeah. He's like in character. He's methods. Did you figure out who it was the I'm mazed that the knows this person because she doesn't know it's not Tom Cruise. Right. Not Tom Hanks now. So that's everybody to note. Basically nose of Brad Pitt. You heard of him. So for this not to be out Pacino. I don't know how she knows who. Well, so it must be a character actor what I concluded. His he must be a character actor in a movie that I've seen a million times and TIMMY, he's famous because I've seen a million. Absolutely. Okay. Okay. Yes. Scene two movies and fifteen thousand movie moving and she really knows this guy. Get how everybody doesn't know the guy from drinking buddies. That's so reliable. I went through phase where I would literally just watch the same movie every fucking debt and be some shit that I like recorded on the wonderful world of Disney or something like anything. I get my hands on on my like bootleg VHS player. Like, the only thing I had in my room. You know, how many times it was my best friend. I've watched goodwill hunting at least ten times. I well, then one hundred says how about these apples is corn see ten times. I saw once and it was cute. I'm like that. With like weird things like it's like a fucking of Whoopi Goldberg movie where she becomes the coach of the New York Knicks. Why can I recite it you know, what I mean? It's just like now part of me weird thing the other day that he puts cigarettes on your chest. He only cried about a one not twenty times. Starring want. Sick. It's a classic rewind that bad. Live with your boyfriend do five years. Yeah. It's been five years. We've been together for six it's actually seem happy about it weirds, really wild. And like, I can't tell you can tell but we're gay. So it's like, no, that's engage. It's literally like we've been together for fuck in thirty five like your lesbian. Yeah. I know like when I tell gaze that we've been together for six years they gas especially because you're so young no wild. It's really wild. We and we shocked vast like lesbians to like, this is your new wild. I know. Yeah. It's really like, I should maybe I should have studied. I don't know. What the fuck know? It's it's been great. Like we live in Bushwick. Like, yeah. How'd you meet we met in the clerk? That's the club. Everyone. King. The. We've had in the club like in. They would look at me and be like those clothes aren't ready. All right. I'll be at the club. They come back in four years. You'll be ready. Lineup. Oh my God. Yes. No. So we met we met out just like in person believe it or not like all the girls classic. What apple is the club for real. No. It was my best friend forever. Like since we were seven, and we didn't know we were gay like, we were just boys. You know that also would sing split. The boy is mine equally. You know, thinking back to each other. That's going to be easy. I ate dinner conversation. Right. How you you? Both separately realize rega- the Toyota remind to yourself there's a lot. I mean, that's the other thing is like there's so many classic gay. I date questions like do your, parents know, do you like are you just like how out are you in general like where we add on this time line? Are you what do you prefer sexually like is this going to be exactly the questions where I'm on a date? It's if you can be any animals. Guys got that. It's harder for sure for sure. But the question exactly the interviews like stacked up at least until like three than it. Right. Okay. So are we? No. But are you topper bottom verse best of both worlds come on? You know what I mean? Like when I got up Sion's. Let's take full advantage. Yeah. That's why anyone's like to understand. I mean 'cause I do it. All check all the boxes. I it's blows my mind when people like are adamant one way or the other toll top or total bottom. Like do. They is it. I think they mean that or there's some people that mean it's wild hairy and what I normally here either suburb Dom. Aha don't you naturally do everything. And are they just trying to be hip in the grab it onto a word? I don't get it. I'm both do it. Right. I like it. Like exactly like, I don't think I would enjoy maybe dominating someone a little bit more land. I don't even I don't even swing all the way dominance, just like, I'm probably more in charge of this time more and try to next time for ugly. I kind of like that we get to have different sects. Keeps it exciting different mindset to like be the top two right because you're in control and a very specific way you have to come up with more. It's like the improv, but you're the prompt for sure, you know, and then like the ten areas, and yeah. And as a bottom like that's a lot of acting like a no I can't get out of those better. Hold me down harder. The whole thing to me like my favorite is. I'm gonna fight you. And hope you win for sure. I mean, I know that's the thing is love being both because there's like a bratty nece that comes along with aspects. Because it's like because we like have this lex ability and this like almost spontaneity it's almost like who what's going to happen this time 'cause yesterday is watching porn and new kind of porn came up hummy that I was like a fuck amend to this. God go, basically, and I I don't even think I clicked on this. It was this couple fighting, and they were just like fuck you in the start like actually pushing each other. And I'm like. I mean, that's what that one scene. Fucking. Mr. MRs Smith that the scene that fucking broke up Brad engine is so hot because they're literally like shooting each other and then fighting like beating the shit out of each other and then throwing each other around and then fucking each other and like all this broken glass. And I was like, yes. Please. It may have to rewatch that because I remember in the l word. What's every one of the main couples? I forget the Tina and the other one. Talk. She just found out that the other one is cheating just found out. And they go home and cheat. And she's like fuck and they start fighting and then they have sex. No brain stop liking this. I feel like the common. I mean, maybe it's the way my algorithm set up a common trope in gay porn. It'll be like I caught you cheating at the gym like with like you just slept with someone else. Like now, we're going to fuck because I'm that from like. Got fifteen minutes. There's another one, and it was in Spanish, how did Spanish get into my porn. Going yet. Then she sees it by accident. And it's what you like this much like this. Now, she has to read all her porn, German never mind. What's going on there? Really? So there's this push. She's she's going like an how this started bless her heart. He dude rings the doorbell comes into starts like Levin. She's like, no we can't do this again and my husband's upstairs weeping, and I'm like. She's like, no stop touching me. You know, when you touch me, I get horny. Date. Counterproductive this friend comes in and starts touching tune. She's like, oh my God. I can't even. You updated dialogue. Time in Spanish way. She couldn't even till she blew the shit up. Of course. Classic. What you're making me. Do. Your next level. Now, my move is. I I'm submissive than the girl takes charge. Then I flip over. Thought. Wow. That's can I ask you. How old you are? I'm thirty. Okay. So you're with the guy with math 'bout twenty five twenty four years old. Yes, we met when we were twenty four before that were you on dating apps. Oh, yeah. For sure here sites all of it. They've apps when you were in highschool dating ups. No, they didn't they did not have apps. I will I didn't get my first smartphone. Two. Bill. College graduated college in now is when it really kicked in. But I was on like dating sites in college. 'cause like the original the OG in highschool, the Oji was fucking AOL chat rooms that was kind of where it all started. And it was very like. Ooh. Like ASL age sex location. What how old are you baba, blah, which is enrichment creepy because I was like sixteen like talking to like dudes our like twenty seven thirty and like that weird now, but then it moved into lake so many apps for that like or sorry sites for that. Like, it was very specific. Or like are you into black guys to bears daddy's or whatever? And then it turned into that Moberly with all these apps we have now we have the gay community to think for those over. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean tender would Nabi here if grinder do not pave the way for sure Fisher, especially like the location driven shit. Like that was all us while we're the pioneers for sure. Sure for sure. You like being specific or or is it weird? Because now people are being specific about you like the twin thin thing. I did you start watching porn in Spanish. Guess actually. Eventually it. No. I would say that like it was to me. It was all ready set up that way like that came with the education because like my coming out, and like a sexual identity is so intertwined with the internet era because that you're coming out like I mean, I was so gay like my mom said she knew I was too because I was literally like putting pantyhose on my head like it was a we even spinning around for hours. So like I was like that little baby down like just like fucking vogue. Ing the hallway. Like she at. I was like I think she was stressed because what happened. Yeah. Like the eighties. And she was like this is going to be a fucking hard life for like raising black gay men in America like. Ex but they eventually saw vote and was like it was like, okay. Excuse me. What are we? Nobody was also just like how does this like how are we going to deal with the family, and what they think and like how are we going to navigate basically this path set out? I don't know. What's ahead? Isn't that interesting to me here watching the two year old going like he's going to watch this point? And that get his dick out of your mouth right here. His cousin exactly why is your uncle concerned about. That's what I'm saying grinder or Tinder what I'm saying. I'm going to go off folks from chick dreams taken away. Yeah. That's what is weird. I don't know. Like, I had like my uncles and shit like punch me in the chest to man up and doing all sorts of stuff like that. Like that was just how it was like hearing them discuss me when I was in the room or not in the room about like how what's the logic of the punch in to say like, hey, don't like men. This point like not even that like I was like six like I was like, I don't even think it was sexual. I just think it was like a soft thing and to be like a soft black man in America is like a scary idea for a lot of people because it's setting you back. I think from what the notion of the world ahead is and I mean, honestly, we're tougher in a different way because to be like. Authentic in your femininity as a black game in is like sometimes put your fucking safety in danger. But like all up saying wanna fight every time you open your literally that like just me showing up. Honestly, I've literally been on the street corner talking to a friend and been approached by someone who wanted to fight me out of nowhere that I had no concept of personal. So that is like a real thing that happened just like Megan coffee with a co-worker made you turn you turn up people's energy. Yeah. No, literally meet like just me being around like my presence in -rageous people. So that's fun. You know what I mean? But also like it's that is something that I know as watching a kid, and knowing that they have no concept of what that is a head of them trying to prepare them for that is a scary thing when you're your task to protect them. You know, what I mean, there's so many things that we teach kids not to do just for their protection. And if like leaning being gay or being soft is part of that. Have you been? Up for being not like bashed. No. So yeah, I would say, no. I feel like it sounded so the will hunting. He said, no. No, definitely like, no. I have not. It sounds like. So, you know, the sound of your voice and the feminity in full style. Like, my neighbors it makes an angry. But when I think about it men angry and women also like they own everything like an impression over woman. It's like this immigrant like this eating voice. And what I think is you're in the kind of body that they get to punch. So we annoy them like that, you know, the more for sure 'cause I relations, but but we annoy them kind of equally as much, but they get to punch you because it won't look weird to punch another like male male body, but the other side of that because absolutely. I think that it's like misogyny for sure like just the ants like the hate of women and women characteristics and femininity and everything comes around with that. But there's also the element of with men know how they think of women or how they sexualize women or what they how they they have. About sending their life exactly in the way that they objectify and sexualize them. And the fact that when they see a gay man, they know that that's flipped on them. And now they become the FOX them up. Like that is honestly, what is so terrifying. That to be the bait all of a sudden or to be the one that is like the lower on the food train in a way. That's like now, you're being pursued can be terrifying. When you know what that entails? Meanwhile, they're not even being pursued girl, I don't even want it. But like I just showed up and now you're like going on. I just tried to get a coffee and now you're insulting interested. Exactly. Like, they're like, how dare you not want. And I'm like, honestly pressure Tiv. I. That is to their so desire. Outgrow Mandujano you try. I mean, not with women we've proven that. But with men it looks like you gotta try honestly, I wish every was gay. I don't know what the problem is. But I'm very I'm very wake. He woke up before noon. What do people mean by that the? What age did you come out to your parents and your mom's like, oh fascinating? So I did. Literally it. So I didn't really have to like did you just want ice cream pie? Exactly. My my internet browser history. Really did the coming out because I was like thirteen lacking it all day that should a stack them. And I thought it was clear metrics because the family computer, you know, what I mean like it was very shifty. And also, I'm like printing out porn. It was a mess. I was like I need to get this to my room. This is like the fucking living. What I'm going to do? I'm like. Ooh. Print all. Binder under my bed, and it's a sprinter. Really was. My it was giving and all that shit was found grandpa. What was the internet lake when you were? Real stone age drug all the kids. Don't know. I mean, he's back in their day. They'd pick up a rock kind of shaped like a woman, but it was immediate with us. To do. So yeah, that was really. And so my mom would always bring up like tough conversations in the car because there's no escape if you're fucking moving doors where you could go learn how to enroll exactly. I did jump out of a car, but we were like zoom in. And she was like so does everyone know you're gay or like that was it. And I was like what eight. Minor forcing fourteen fifteen cedar mom, no girl. No. But I was like no you cry just because that's a big question that she casually drops. And like it exposes you all of a sudden, I I wanted to literally die in that moment. And like it wasn't. And she wasn't doing it harsher. Anything naked? Yeah. Exactly. Like, literally, laying me. Nothing's wrong was like someone snatched my whole wig balls. Like, I was not ready. But I was literally just like all right? Well, let's talk about this. Then I was like, no. And I honestly don't want to because at this point. I had decided that whatever school. I was going to. I was leaving this Virginia northern Virginia shit, and I'm going somewhere like a major city and I'm coming out. Then like that me move going to college will be the transition because like fuck these people in high school, no shade. But like the ones that are writer die will like love me. Then still and then it's like a new beginning fresh start. But you mom notice. Yes. And so you couldn't have been that what's the word subtle about? Sure. No. I was believing switching about it a little bit. Yeah. She goes when you tell me that you're getting. It was it was very. But I mean, like when Courtney I met me, I was straight quote, unquote. You know, what we hear you try to do that? Street boys. Like, it was I think I was giving like maybe like trying to be here. All the time. Like, hey, guys. Did you see new brianna video? I cried in the car on the way here. I was getting like my to polos and like. People like you cry because you so focal exactly like my like my locker covered in beyond say every binder beyond say covered. Like, I'm fucking like we like, I'm like, I'm sketching fucking girl. Clothes all the time. I'm the so I'm flicking so gay guys. Like listen to me right now. Okay. She makes penis so drippy. Yum, like, she's. Whatever. But Courtney say when when the shoes like Doug Earl. She was a little shocked, but also Courtney's like cheese a magnet for the games. But has also clueless. Like our favorite instinct bitch was Lance Bass like number. She wanted to fuck Lance Bass. Now, Courtney mcginnis is true. Oh, she finally gets to case. Novum for real like like who she is. So late here. We. I was like the girl you guys have narcissistic, she's only paying attention to herself. She's not gay. So she was like I look at the black guy. When I look at your booths. Look at your bio that obviously you wrote as an Admiral in the beehive. Yes, that's me. Are you are you are you a card carrying member? Like, I'm not joking is this a fan club. And you really have position. It's not is a fan club. Right. Don't have fish. Okay. But I appreciate you taking that. It's a serious. The kiss could call me up at any day. That's what I'm saying. Maybe you are. I think I mean, maybe I am maybe. I think maybe a little election coming up soon or something. Reads beyond say is not a subject, we'll take slightly. So let me ask you some things that I was wondering. I'm ready. First of all did beyond set physically have that baby. Which won any of them the first one, I think she physically had all of them. But there was a foe belly attitude time. Okay. And this is what I think happened for sure. So there is that moment where the belly like straight up collapses. So if you guys were call the MTV movie awards of two thousand eleven the the mic drop in the belly reveal Konya after she around like a ballerina. So now, we're just nervous. He I know you can't shake baby. So let's assume it's fake. Well, not that wasn't very low keeper for it. But she was honestly just like like temptations to step, very cute. She's keeping it mild for beyond say standards. But I appreciate you respecting the choreography to shape up. Randy. None of that. None of that level and top. It was that very like grandma song the people. You know, what I mean like they played at weddings? So so that's what she was giving. But then literally a week later, she shows up in Australia doing press, and she's fucking. She looks huge. And that's what she sits down some. And I was like, okay. Like. Exactly like, I really think it was literally like caves slowly made a Neo pre or something like it's so weird. And she just kept going because I split second thing. So I go. Exactly, Dr then she didn't. But then the twins. She was all about showing off that belly so much. So I know that those babies where for sure, okay? So we don't know how we're being played. But a little oh, we're definitely being like when cheer for the Super Bowl not me up when she did the Super Bowl and Destiny's Child and she want them there. Yes. I think so those are the members of Desi shot that she did want there because not everyone gets invited. When when she with the other two main ones and did you come on? Oh, I know. Members and siblings. I know I know the one the one in detail, right? So too are there and you saw right? Oh, absolutely. Definitely for breakfast. You definitely every day. Saw how threw shade to her pest. Right. Thank you bye stage. She she she does her saw her all then sings with the women. Yeah. And then when then like halfway through the one thing and then halfway through. She starts doing the most. And then she just like rolls her eyes in half as the most by bitches kick them up. Also, this was that route. I don't think so because it was the beyond say Super Bowl performance out the Destiny's Child Super Bowl performance. So there's that. But I think. Right. But the true shade was that she had them sing her famous song that was just her with two backup girls AK single eighties. But they were not included in the original. So she was like you can come out here, and like we'll do a little quick showed. And then you'll help me sing my song much for coming. Thank you. I love you. Now, here's another question for me. It seems that Jay z for better or worse. I've heard out her best music. Okay. Interesting. Is he going to cheat on her again as a favor? I don't know if it'll be a favourite this points. It'll just I do want consistency in a relationship. -solutely? Absolutely. Absolutely. I just hope that he continues to piss off in some way because my favorite beyond angry beyond say, it's always been that way. And she's always been pissed at him. Like question. Tell me what you think about like, independent women style. She's talking about fuck, Jay z. Like, it's like she's always mad at him. It feels like whenever he cheats. Yeah. She comes out with like record of the fucking central got. It's so fucking good. Yeah. 'cause she's like his, and that's the thing is when she wins. Does he get producing credit go on stage and accept the award? He, HUD, right? I'll react as. Now, did they do? Intercourse with RIA. I don't I don't think. So I don't think he had intercourse with riana blasting each other probably or something like that. Like, it would definitely got gross with rounded for a little bit. When he initially signed her like oh six time because this is the t- everyone freaked out about lemonade is like this pinnacle of beyond say, finally addressing the cheating and all this shit. That was the Nucci exactly. But if you go listen to be day, like the sick the fucking irreplaceable that whole ring the alarm that whole the whole album is her just yelling at men being like green light. There's green light. It says you're holding traffic remains go get the fuck outta my life freedom dress when you man acts up you pull out your slutty stress, and you go to the club show that other dudes. We'll Satch you up in a second like that should left. My phone at home. Good. Exactly. It was all the med- like there's a song called kitty cat. It's literally talking about her postseason that like we can go. That's fine. Are they are they happy together like the Clintons? No, I think that they are happy together happy together because she was a child when they met she understands this to be a relationship, but is she like diva happy diva life. But you know, she's just I think kind of a regular wife in that the only regular thing. She does sure she takes regular shit takes regular fucking cheating regular lying like a regular bitch. That's the real nece is like if beyond say's out here still putting up with like. Yeah. For men like what the fuck just getting lemonade. Thanks for the lemonade. Hell is limited urine. I haven't heard the Hoyle. It's so deep it's there's a lot in their current. Let's go over some topics. We covered the last week in New York City. Okay. Our mayor was trying to is trying to has to work with Albany. And I was saying how amazing New York City has the respect. Honestly Lau the rest of New York state, but we do and the mayor saying, I would like it to be if you get caught masturbating on the subway, you get kicked out if you get caught twice because you know, I come course we've been here. Of course, you get bent. Everyone's lips up banned from the subway, but has to work with the work with Albany on that. So give that time banned from the subway that you think that's a lot right? Yeah. That's like a hard concept for me to wrap my head around. Right. Hide concept to take your dick out and train know that I've seen. So I understand it. No, no, not so much. It's not my favorite place damage for sure. But it's not fair to not take the subway. Yeah. Or just like how who's like policing that? There's not like a bouncer at the subway. You know what I mean like this? How are we gonna catch these guys like, what's what's the method? Well, who cares? So if I shoot twice somehow fair, you didn't you did it twenty times two thousand for sure. And you and you're still doing it as cops were coming over one hundred percent. Like you want to be caught. I put up the poll how many public masturbation offenses before? One should be banned from the train. Good question. Okay. Thank you question. What are the people said? Well, we're options one two. Okay. Three to five six or more. I have course, said one eighty five percent two times. Because again, we all make mistakes. Everyone slips up ten percent. Ten percent three to five. Five percents. Okay. Six or more zero percent. Okay. I love that that one. However, I have a message here from pumpkin. Okay, bunka. This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but says unpopular ping. Check, the weather and then report, right? I tend to disagree with the punishment that involves banning people from public transportation. It's a lot like the driving laws in the mid west. Yes, Keith jerking off in public is different from traffic violations, and like when people correct themselves. Exactly n throw your name. As me is key. I hear you my point is when you take away people's way to get to work or to therapy or basically live their lives. It can do a lot more harm than good. Sometimes the punishment doesn't fit the crime slipper slippery slope alert in though, punt, then I would assume this person would say, okay, six or more. Why was that zero percent it? Yeah. You decided six or more, sir? But yes. So I'm picturing this person in the subway. You think he's jerking off on his way to therapy? The irony. Are we going to get him help? And by the way, I don't want him go into where I work. Well, there isn't after that post come clarity that you were there. I think if you wanna get the most out of that is the worst, by the way watching porn, I'm just like so into this. And then I come and I'm like, what am I what am I? This is a terrible thing to do. Totally that fuck it's getting hot again. Well, it's browser. For real. I don't care if your job is busting boxes at the bottom of data. I don't really there. They it home and jerk off for real get that done first priorities. But put I don't have a reason to live. So sorry. I'm good grows. This would be a suicide machine in your house. Wave. Big microwave, honest, kid abutting. Lahtchi crushing. By the way, I saying say, of course, I like the idea of people that need help to get it. But I don't think you could fix these pedophile for people that start jerking off on train a bigger issue than you know, there's I said to the audience I said, you can write a letter anonymously won't kick your IP address. And let me know hey, are used to kids. But I ended up getting some how here's why you're wrong. So I'm gonna check my Email now it's been a full weekend. Oh, kurt. No hold on. I'll check the junk folder heels apropos. Nope. Nothing. All right. That's interesting. Oh, yeah. Kief would be the one I would tell if I was a pedophile. Let me report myself to Keith Malley. He's Mark, Molly. I promise I won't even say you're in recovery. I would say that you are recovered or coverage was just let me know how it happened, and we can help more people you'd think there'd be more spokes put a bow on it feel you. I'm here to help by the way. This brings up this poll is this idea nobly last week's poll in general. Okay. General who do you usually side with more Keith? Or now the look on his face as it's Keith so far. Now, if the pull continues guy, you ripping that apart folding it up and handing it to you. Oh boy. Wow. Fifty fifty exactly. That's beautiful. Wow. Let's go. Beautiful. Oh, well, balanced. We should do. We had like about ten years ago. We went up to Canada we had like a dodge. Walter nement US against Canada's cooking. Now, we should do dodgeball Keats people against my I love that. Right. Keith the the girl. Yes. All of our side will be stoned all of key will be recovering alcoholics hasn't who haven't done anything about their mindset. We're dead my. But we'll have we'd after I love it. My son is going to be so much fun. Your side's gonna be like, oh, here's did you drop the ball. Yes. I'm out. I'm gonna go smoke. We exactly. Our bench is going to be fire. Our side would be like oh my God. You guys look so strong. Really trying to be on that side. He's doing the Bollock real hard. We'll be talking at them try to hit my but. Points for the but it's gonna win the subs against the Dom. What halfway through? We put on our leather. Exactly. Then one. We fucking flip. It. Fucking come back into this. April thirteenth through the fifteenth. Like, I was saying it's four events. It's twenty comedians here in New York City. Okay. That includes my annual standup show will cope will be there. Sure. Well, we're going to do you can't say that. You'd better not you'll be there with Courtney mcginnis your podcast and co host playing against her boyfriend's podcast. I'm so fucking excite taste, no way. You're not going to beat them. We have to beat them. And they have trouble speaking. I know like I'm concerned about like dislike as three straight men to get done with references like note. Thank you grow. We got this. We accept the right in forfeit right now. Absolutely. What's exciting? Is that? Of course, it's two people get to people. All right stay she'll be three rounds. Okay. Okay. Okay. Minimum. Johnny don't get kicked out fair. Right alad. So you will read you will give the clues to this game which cross between trades and taboo to Courtney. Yep. About horny. We'll give them to you. And for the third round, you will decide who gives to now these three men have to figure out what they wanna do each time. Maybe one wants to stay out. They don't know communication at all they got option. So a lot of infighting interesting. But I'm looking and love that. I like to watch him crumble from within you know, that's gonna be great. Yeah. We did you can't say that. And everyone's like, really jokey. Throwing out bullshit. And then it started getting competitive, and you guys will turn on each other quick. I'm more concerned for Courtney because it's fucking Cornelius, Casey. And I am I competitive Astle into Bruna this relationship and the second I love it, even Keith. And I went and he starts getting mad at me for giving the wrong because I didn't didn't even watch that movie. Why? I mean, depending on where the clues at there's something's according I can get with some just a my contact. So we'll see. We live together for five years. So we know each of that so come on by Keith girl dot com slash tickets. All the information is there, and we appreciate it. We'll is gray meeting. You come. So much fun. You guys the fucking last you Soma J should follow. 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PT98: Learning Together: The Power of Conductors in Collaboration, Kevin Stterlin and Mathias Elmer on Building Sinfonietta Memphis as Co-Music Directors, Leading Effective Education Programs, and Performance Practice for Mozart and Beethoven
"Welcome to podium time the podcast for conductors students. Sure your co music directors. Like how does how does that work when we're together it's also like a masterclass. You know i watch them. Rehearse and conduct and i to learn so much from it once. You've reached the point where you're really entering the profession on one hand. We're students for life. But at the same time once you enter the career and you do as a profession. You can't go to a masterclass Ten networks and it's kind of stupid in that regard it's always source -freshing and inspiring to get to be together and learn that way. Hi there and welcome to podium time. I'm your host. Jeremy cuevas and today we've got a very special episode and this episode was so much fun to record today. Lucchino talking with conducting duo of kevin sewer line and matheus elmer. Kevin matthews arco music directors of some phony memphis which they founded together and they still run together so today we're diving into how to conductors and very close friends can collaborate and continue to learn together. Plus we're looking at how they founded the orchestra How they create incredible engagement with their education programs and all about classical era performance practice which is what the orchestra specializes in will hear about how kevin a beer designed named after him. You may notice some slight difference in audio quality a little bit more background noise than normal in this episode Because usually we record three hundred people together on zoom me luke in the guest today we are. We are recording foreign. That just created a couple of other things. So i wasn't able to remove as much background noise as i can so there may be a little bit more but it's really not too bad as always thanks to all of our patrons patriots for supporting the show monetarily and thanks to each and every one of you for listening for now. Let's get onto the show kevin. Your camera is so high wrestle. Is it a good usually. It's not right that's i. That's probably the clearest video. I've seen on zoom in like all of us on plenty of zoom calls recently. I wonder if we just moved actually got yeah. I guess a pretty good internet. I wonder no before it always compressed it somehow matias without even knowing all in person a modest network. You're talking about this yesterday. As we were talking preparing for today thinking that you know both of you have sort of a gift to connect people bring people together through and we figured that you guys were just like montas nine and music broadus together right into a close friendship and it's just so much more fun to walk through with a wonderful friend right. Yeah absolutely. so maybe let's start there. How did how did how did you meet. And i can put the intro in earlier but while we're on it yeah how did you do connect to similarity to start we. Actually you know. Each are quite a long time now We have met the first time in eight in. Switzerland cosby studied at the same school University of lucerne are we have met for the first time and i was pursuing my masters in orchestra offer conducting. He was studying wind panel stumble conducting and he was sitting in our classes That's murray got to know each other and we already like was in the immediate connection. That will actually glanced nerve because it was a little bit of Yeah i will say like some of my colleagues or classmates for widespread snobby. I'm the best and blah blah blah blah. I couldn't stand that was having introverted over the trend clunker right. That's where we met actually up so then how it's continued that both like europe came to the united states of the microsoft thing for kevin starred with now that soul i had spent a year in the us as a foreign exchange students during high school. Actually doing my junior year in high school and fell in love with the country and with the culture and was pretty set on wanting to to come back one day to do a doctorate. The doctor conducting is that something. You actually can't do in europe. We have masters concert diploma. Whatever you know whatever not really a doctorate yet in music performance of actual practical musical subjects doctorates the are reserved for theoretical subject. So you can get a doctorate in musicology. Yeah but not really feels yet. So i came back. I was actually looking at doctoral programs. Again was two thousand ten or soul and had dritan. You know i mean how how you do it the way you do your writing one hundred emails two hundred different professors and you're looking for the right program trying to find a connection with with a good teacher and on and i was in the middle of my masters at that point in luzern. I had started my masters and was going to finish that. And then oblique come to the us for dna and it must if it feels like it was a hundred carson that i that emailed was incredible man who lived in memphis tennessee dr coochie john who ended up our being our teacher. Who within i guess. Forty forty five minutes of me sending him an e mail he called me on my phone across the atlantic crater so that failed special of from from the very beginning on it just felt like a special connection and he said well. I have an assistantship open right now. I can't promise that it would be opened next year when you're done with your masters but if you if you can do it then you can transfer and so. That's what i did for months later. I was actually the somehow. It all worked out in time with these us And it was incredibly lucky to get to study of wiccan. Because he was truly and to. The state is an amazing teacher and mentor to both of us. Well and then mattis. How did that go. I was still working for a swiss band. Music association at the time on the board of directors there and we were organizing swoop national wind band competition. Would you say his adult about the right translation. And we hired matias as one of the i think we had fifty sixty judges with a huge endeavor. Mattis was under the adjudicators and so we hadn't seen each other in a couple of years. I would say and then again that summer and Yeah i told matias about the program then it kind of went from there right So that was like really life changing So he told me kevin told me. That's our jon cooper. django Is going to open a second assistantship which never happened before there was always one Than having kind of talk. You should applied at something. You should do that as well. I will assume thirty. Five at the time Quite established ahead of its limit on orchestra to church. Choirs was a member of a professional But somehow the area that we're wanted to be this is probably a chance. That will never come back. And i remember very well after. Was two weekends competitions. Laura's those texting heaven was a sunday and then monday morning. I fly so of overnight That i will do complementaries august and will do the everything With dank horror dist- examined every take in terms of your training on omega So for instance. I can give you the meter or key like your own. Melodic dictation. just. It's the once when i was able to figure that i ask y'all everything on musical. Cast miserably fails the inlets. Because i was well. I was just caught in the school english huge. I didn't use years so as a foreigner you have to take the total test. Yeah that's new english. As a foreign language was a four hour computer based the union on the screen. Have to for our primary concern. The time goes on and they're just like random picks office. I had astrology astronomy topics. Translate an article in. I was just like way too over. Like i said ended up having a fifty three or so the united states you have to have at least eighty and then he said well without hopeful. No scholarship should gonna do still want to go to do that if i started in ten week. He was a ten week intensive in this program also in memphis same diversity and then. I read the test of the parents. That's the way. I ended up We the united states who then we actually lift together. The system passed was a great time. We were renting a little house in memphis and conductor job open at the best time together. Kind of like what you jeremy lucrative hadn't read having being able to have conversations about music in conducting forced him kevin. I'm curious where is your. Where is your study away whereas your first your first time. In america it was in a extremely rural. Part of the country in virginia was a tiny high school of three hundred fifty students. Total of very yeah and it was a big culture shock for me coming coming windows sixteen seventeen i guess in this organization last year of our black. You know the the way you are when you're sixteen seventeen years old kind of them. There's a certain. I guess arrogance you know blah blah and good music program and in the end. It really top. Perhaps the most important lesson that i was ever taught in my life and that is that it's always about the people in this about the people that you meet it's really never about the conditions around it's about the connections you make and what you make those connections the friendships and in a way new families that you build across the globe was very very grateful for experience. I got there. I'll did were you. Participating in music. At the time he s. i was singing in a choir original vocalist coolest. Kind of actually funny. Funny story right. Matches was saying i would studying in band conducting and i don't placing a wind instrument. I studied acuras as a singer. Ano- not very well. So i was gonna go to college. I went to college my first year. Or choral conducting right in europe. You can get an undergraduate degree in conducting which doesn't another topic in itself right with a shame. It is that we don't have that in the us yet. Tell was in that program and my teacher. We didn't really click when we put it that way and then she she fell ill for and had to go through treatment and during that time i was able to take lessons with someone else and the with christopher really who who than state my teacher for a long time and He is a symphonic conductor. He's conducted across the world but he was teaching in the wind department. Their concerns our then insults than able to switch into that department and ended up conducting bands and switzerland. It's really a beautiful experience as well. I learned so much from that and Young so so you guys run symphony out of memphis together and last we left off on the story. As you're you're studying together and living together when kind of the next The next bits of that story. How did it start matias data. Well i think that started pretty soon. So i'm the night arrived in memphis my first euros to fall and i think that semester already have laid out our plans for a feeling chamber orchestra ed group perform outside of school on so we had a great and carol our a directly on we were sitting in our townhouse having nice less of red wine probably more than one. They're facing off. Like what can we do. We have to do something right. And that's where it started so like we just asked our classmates friends. Local teachers put something together. And then i think in muscle over doesn't fourteen read our inauguration of cnn amendments. We already have the of projects that we like to call it. Yvonne yet amendments opening on the classical composers The the chamber Then we started off with. I think it was subaru number. One i trump concerto and don't want me orchard right now. Sure and schubert was a long truck. Were not be. That's right so that's where it started. And we we wouldn't have thought like sill exists. It has been growing ever since it's incredible that'd be able to go back all the time more than once a year usually wise year. Especially i'm like we've also like being like spread out through the country so that's it really has become a family so that what you mentioned before about About people that's really something that seems kind of i think number lines more than just in orchestra coming together. It's really a family of like friends who come travel from memphis for like rod for instance right from denver leaving or flying just to participate in our weekly orchestra rehearsals concert than academy three in europe. That will not be possible. Or if it's okay. I will participate. But what's what's what's again right. So that's something just in well. And that's very meaningful. What's your experiencing experiencing so i think that's harder. I think that. I think you're right. We think we're really lucky. In that sense that it was just an amazing group of friends might in sort of an amazing group of friends that there was no pretentiousness. Any we just wanted to learn together. And so i think especially to starting groupies shared an interest for what mafia said historically informed performance practice in exploring that further together really in a playful way. And that's just like you said has just continued to grow and in two years ago we started. We added a academy portion. Where during the summer we and and it it really is an person one but we have to change it to online this year. Of course but Where during the summer we come together for a week and a half and we guest lecturer -ticipant s- conducting portion to the academy as well but is not limited to that only and just sharing experiences and sharing guests latest research that each and everyone has done. A lot of the presenters are actually people that play with the orchestra to have have found a niche. In this historic performance practice yield end with symphony. Ed started for them and they've continued to grow grow that and cultivate that for themselves and it remains a big passion of both of ours. So when you guys do concerts your co music directors to you. Are you both like splitting a concert. One is doing concert like how does how does that. Work alastair all after that's something very unique speaks about our friendship. I think it's more than a work relationship. I mean you both know that. I mean that's two conductors. Get along quite rare share In warsaw so. I think that's something a really area memoir clarity. Because that's usually their let me. I'm now will we always share Typically have like a besides the very opening concert kind of limited to like an hour concert or one of the half mex They have usually like a concerto piece concerto and two symphonies done. We just kinda switch like one concert kevin dusty charito or an overture than we switch the next row tax. Now amazing colouration thinking so. You're not you're not. You're not standing on the podium at the same time one of you has right hand when he has rarely really Because kevin is the left upper. I would actually work up. You're like a really big tuxedo so you can still look. i think. that's so rare in our field in just like. I'm sure jeremy. And luke you appreciate each other's friendship a lot we we do the same because as much as we all wish that everyone just got along right in was truly about music and that everyone understood. It's people building bridges Bringing people together as cheesy as talent. But it's about making this world a little bit more harmonious than yeah. It's not that way for everyone. Unfortunately and so. I think we all have stories of people. Backstabbing us trying to do or Being phony being nice to you but then really find out what they say about you behind behind your back and the true friendships. They are so important. That doesn't matter how many you have how good of the friendship you have. I'm really grateful to for the friendship. Mattis when you're when you're putting a concert together. I mean i'm i'm curious about programming and then actually the rehearsal process you kind of working together so like you know your programming together. I would assume you're kind of doing that. And then and then during the rehearsal you you are you in the room also taking notes and helping that way or is it. Is it kind of hands off when the other one is leading. I think you described it perfectly. We actually program. Usually we program really fast right. Matias goes like this. I guess we we. We share a lot of google drive documents list we both love during we exploring music by underrepresented composers and we love exploring music. That's just underperformed. you know. Sort of these hidden gems. I for example one of the most beautiful memories i have of matias conducting the one bieber symphonies. You who was hard of fun we've actually writing symphonies so beautiful and it was a. It was a incredible candlelight concert and so that's kind of always stays in the back of my head of the beautiful memory when we're together. It's almost like a master class. You know because i watch them rehearse and conduct and i to learn so much from it in the something once like you guys know once you've reached the point where you really entering the profession. That's kind of a bizarre turning point because on one hand where students for life i didn't. That's what music is all about right. He could study twenty four seven if we didn't have to sleep and you still could only scratch the surface beauty and the obsession of but at the same time i especially with conducting. Is this perception that once you enter the career and you're doing it as a profession or you can't go to masterclasses Ten networks. it's kinda stupid. Yeah but in that regard it's always so refreshing and inspiring to get to be together and learn that way in an environment where i don't have to fear that someone's going to say some weird about mirrors. If that makes any sense you know a jet to come back to. Your programming. Question unrepresented composers. We usually feature on every single concert with all on sambas that we work with Because we believe especially in a community like memphis right where we have a beautifully diverse city beautifully diverse community. There is so important that that children are. We play for a lot of children actually. It's okay the mission really is to bring music to neighborhoods and communities in memphis than her half stoned have access as other other communities actually honestly. That's the biggest part of the organization like monty said no that we're all sort of across the country we do. Maybe two concerts a year but then all the other stuff that goes on you know without where tense going out into. Schools offering. Free lessons to you know they. They're struggling to afford it. That's really the biggest part of what's infant yet does right now. And so in the programming. It's important that those kids from a wide variety of backgrounds and orientations and cultural backgrounds to find themselves somehow reflected on stage right in the musician said of performing. And that's luckily we're such a beautifully diverse orchestra to really with people from all across the world anthony also that they see themselves showers in music that's being performed. That's super important. Really cool that you guys go out. And do you know. Orchestras talk about that kind of stuff. A lot and nine times out of ten. It's we're gonna play star wars at a kitty concert and that is our you know community outreach to young people and they're going play mars and they're going to play and you know it's it's such an easy coats who i think it's been done so many times that it's not significant anymore and it. It's not enough to bring to spark that interest whereas when you ashley involve them in you know the creation of it be it you know giving them lessons or going into their school and having a quartet play. Those are much more intimate settings where connections can actually be made so that it might actually make a difference so i think that's really great. Thank you think you're so right by just sort of a multifaceted process. I think we agree right. Those things have value as well and experiencing this amazing using that. They've seen on television or on the screen But your soul right right. It's a hands on approach. It's an understanding that it's just as much learning process for As musicians right in and a growing process to get to do that kind of work to get the opportunity to to light that's arth in someone as it isn't an plea fruitful opportunity for for the kids as well and so while of course quality is always you know we all want our concerts to sound good but honestly it's all about the communal experience and so even in our regular sinfonietta rehearsals. We often have kids. We invite them to sit in and album can play four or five percent of it but they really get vissel. Experience of illawarra are flu principal. Sitting right next right next to the garo in the flames. Incredibly beautiful how to be able to pull like that one day and having just a an amazing starting amazing connection to this person and then she said angrily give you listen to mar right and it just goes from there and the family grows. And that's the goal. The families gross that way to the very famous our after concert parties usually rent nightlong. Portia that's true. Nobody else traditions. After already before the concert. There's another a really nice tradition where we all come together. In the basement of usually performing a church there wonderfully diverse community at sacred heart in memphis and the whole orchestra comes together to share some thoughts in gratitude and in sounds so bizarre. N- cultish say right now even out loud but it doesn't feel that way you know when we're there because it's not it's family and really are so grateful that we have that connection people come back from from all over the country to just be and play with their friends again and really sort of focuses you before the concert and you go out as a team you do the thing over well it goes and then afterwards you know you're coming back yet another time and you celebrate your friendship yet again. I think for the for the musicians. It may be a nice change if they're playing another orchestras. It's probably justed job like you know. Maybe they finally get to play great music. But it's very much a job in which you guys have sounds absolutely having family as a great great. Where for the people's names right an orchestra we don't know. Maybe you know you stand partners. Name okay section. But then i don't know i've been in. I don't even know my standpoint. I think such a such an important thing. Actually that human connection because again. That's what it's all about the people and about making connections and so that that's awesome nicer. You give my conducting students if you go out and you hope you you can make your hopeful to make a career in this field. You gotta understand never about you and music about people and you have to learn people's names you have to make that a number one priority. Actually tried to know. My students names from day one and the same with professional orchestras. You have to try to get to know the people and not just on a superficial level yet. Appear about them. So how did the out of the the pre concert tradition. Start a great question. I'm just started with this. Andy carroll or a couple of members of the orchestra who asked for about this writing the basement there because it was sold a green room right. The basement is agreement so everyone was there anyways. Some as it is fiddling around warming up yes someone just stop them andrew carroll or or you may be happening despu to the orchestra and then it went from there. Not as common tradition right. Yeah i love that. Just kind of just kind of happened by itself in the in the right in the right environment with right people. How big is the orchestra. It's you know it's chamber orchestra like doubled winds how many ish strings. What's with that. Look like tense. Last year Was a little bit bigger. I think we had eight. I maybe seven seconds six five win three basis and double wins So that's i would say typically between forty and forty five the pool rights of of musicians that we ask. Are you able much is. I guess that's by now and one hundred hundred twenty people that played with us the time Since it's geared and this nerdy facet right about sinfonietta emphasis a historically informed performance practice oh we usually tailor the instrumentation of the orchestra size towards what we play the make sense so the last one was one of the later beethoven symphony and little little bit later went with the larger group there and then headed the head of the academy start. You said that's been going for two years. What are the origins of that you know. Historically in performance this is such a. It's a subject that's so in fashion in europe has been for twenty thirty years already. But it's strange house lowly on the it's it's hanging around in the us in when we think of is arguing form performance practice. We think of baroque music. That's maybe or a decade or two. Yes that has arrived in the us. And there's amazing scholars in america. That do this kind of work year towards baroque or earlier. But as soon as you see. Mozart haydn beethoven schumann schubert on a program. It is completely romanticized in. It's sort of like okay. This oregon form precautions. Practice stops active. And of course. That's not true right. Actually the performance style really the stylistic ideas not compositional ideas but the sound aesthetics are fluid from baroque into classical. Sweet sweet. sounds huddling your tone of the ideal of voice. Decay released right. I mean all of these things that just naturally came from the way. The instruments were built to the bose. Where really that doesn't change until later in seoul. We always found that interesting. And now when a here in a here of mozart or haydn done the romantic way hint candidate anymore. You know there's something so honest. Genuine and certain sense raw in reference which are words we don't necessarily associate merely with classical style but they were natural results of how the instruments had developed up until that point So when i when. I got a record player a couple of years ago. I went through my dad's old records and i found like a recording with the brandenburg considered from the fifties or something and it was just. It was so goofy and disgusting. And like i can't even listen to it as a joke just to hear how bad it was because it was so bad and i was like. Yeah but but then we still hear that with with it the i. It's just such a different sound. And even beethoven. I mean currently working on an article The topic is on the of mozart about the different tempi. Okay And when i listened to these you know renowned conductors sperm carl bernstein and compare it to mornington a tour. It's just incredible. If i have found like a difference from the same minuets and temple more than seventy beats per minute going to span of twenty years. Something is just right. I mean like carre on in the seventies eighties famine. Just change the composer's context like or instrumental like instead of floor horns who have eight or his telam the all or like four crumbles instead of two. I mean that's just not how do things nowadays. Right i mean. That's something i think goes on our focus to just like the over romanticized approached. kevin mentioned. We've tried to Eliminates just harshly will be brought by not like we're a single notes period and it just changes their reception took a while for the orbis selected. Change the style last year. we did. Mozart's fifth relinquish power bounded professor Shoot first of all. I in terms of like The academy what we have been what we saw. We were shocked. Who would have thought that our rights lyneham kalaheo is a twentieth century. A but it's already mozart in the turkish But right to own my god marathon about this. So that's where we already started putting together professor. Xu kinda set something in the academy as well which was quite. I opening awesome for all of our france. He said we have to learn unlearn. Thinks that you learned that your professor Or something like that does quite interesting. That's kind of our soon. I have to ask what was the peace with seventy beats per with seventy beat. Difference between the record. It's the cheapest rescinded room. You dislike around one hundred. Thirty reportedly quarter notes or incidence horn crew. Over two hundred. I'll try to try to find those recordings on. You'll share them really. I'm really curious. So from a historically accurate performance perspective. How do you guys approach. Beethoven and his metronome markings. That's kind of been hot topics. The last few days. I've seen a lot about. It was very tempted. I saw it on facebook to come off the institute. Immortal to think about mark. Well y approach is really pump sitter his first of all that article by the melts. Labatt's metronome has been fifty. That's correct plus nolan talks about all these metro who already have been in place years earlier. You know especially like in france Metronomic errors. there was a pocket. Watch youtube temple. So i just hope them probably as modern asks dissenting remarks in otherwise making like i write in votes and then you still auction and no more. There were people who say the metronome has not been working properly if not bright. What's that same. Your actual metronome. That he was using isn't a museum in in austria Actually records right that show. The home regularly brought his metronome into the shop to get it Adjusted when he noticed it was. It felt slightly off so when i gather from that. Is that matron at that. Beethoven had impeccable sense of high in temple in soap. It to me. That suggestion seems bizarre. To say his metronome was this broken arm was off of would have noticed that because clearly he did notice in otherwise he wouldn't have taken it into the shop quite regularly to get it adjusted. So yeah that's that's a game changing detail that i've never heard yum yum Sent you some materials. Yeah guarding so of course like you said by nitsa hot topic if you adjust orchestra size and your way of really the way of thinking to and like matias unlearn what. We've learned in the past because offense. It's us ourselves that stand in the way of this. This can absolutely work because it really can. I mean we've done. We've done a cycle. The only one is missing right now. Six nine months with symphony up. And we always try to go as close as we can to these markings and so on just about all of them have work with a small orchestra size. Leaner orchestral sound right. So then non vibrato the brought to only in various specific instances azam the special embellishment it absolutely not true not just work but it brings out totally new facets. I find wonderful memory. I have so. I am branded in. My mind is marcus's beethoven's seven houston symphony. That second movement. Jeremy lou is absolutely stunning. And you're e n has a certain insanity to when it starts out completely sense of of have to send you a recording stale. Just thinking about it right now and the one detail i might add in terms of academy that you asked the germany About temple luke of especially. It'll another example. This the euro march from his roy conference How often do you sheer tempe. Which is all bogle dot you at all and anything. oh allow. that's reading where then since tragic. What has nothing to do with. That's composition people do not know or they do not care enough to like reads. Go back to crime resources that this actually has been a trip in vienna so like people were walking or a were the to cement cemetery right said it has to be in at least as eighty eight all what he one end to and one and two and then it makes sense when you put it in the car. Thanks in okay. Yeah now. I realize that. Beethoven was thinking about the temple tradition in vienna that time to like to coffin into the similar to of people walking. So it's kind of too slow. I mean that's primary source which we cannot neglect. I guess we're it was very specific. Step do you call it conduct. Schlitt where it's not just a a slow march. What does it look like. Make you stop after one. Step right in new go next so to specific step. Even the us in vienna the funerals them that aligns with temporal painting didn't signed a little nerdy but it opens up a whole nother. A whole to facet a whole nother reason for for the music. And then you can. You can incorporate that in your performance and you know make something special you guys you talk to the audience and explain kind of the you know what you're doing and in that performance like how is that information or is it pretty inside the actually we. Well we do not talk about that in the audience louis the orchestra fifty academy but that might be able to inflow actual concerts that we don't we do sometimes free or sometimes we do our good friend. Khaki waltons as the memphis radio host in we're always very blessed to get to be with her before the concerts and the very generous with the time. There's some time some time to dive into these dell's petit at the concert itself. Not so much a good idea. I was just thinking. I mean if i were in the audience and i just heard it without knowing the details that you've just shared you know it'd be like well that's you know that's a that's a good performance. It's it's great and but but knowing that That not only you know. That's that's the intention behind the music but also that you've gone into that much depth and you understood that and make made such a intentional decision. I think also also adds a lot To the to the mission of historically informed for me for me as an audience member. I think that's a great point. And then i saw that. You guys also perform nontraditional settings. I thought i read somewhere. What is what does that. What does this mean sort of. I guess all over all over the town right at the idea really is sort of to break down these. The boundaries with an invisible wall between your between the performers at usually elevated up on a stage perhaps which we don't performance stages and And then the audience debts several feet away and sorta just consumes Touched on a little bit earlier. it's all about creating visceral experience so s even the rehearsals as we often have people come to rehearsals. We sounded around during the rehearsals. At least wear. I mean this is especially from an educational standpoint when we have kids with us that sit in or attend rehearsals that they are able to see each and everyone facial expressions read with us right so that's part of the nontraditional and then we've you know we've done a couple of projects in in the city of memphis in say nontraditional venues in the sense of not a concert. All in not a church not at a school been in some interesting places. Put have the after party in the same place right after. Oh no names you know. We've we've brought to the music that ran a series a sandwich and a symphony so in the neighborhood that we lived Was a few little sub shop. Where and it had. It was accused space open space. So like gosh. Why don't we feel states with music. Right next to it was the the pub that we frequented a rather frequently and sinfonietta memphis would provide music there. So you have this crossover sense of you play classical tunes and then all of a sudden we do for example mardi gras right. It would be the same musicians that now. Play the mardi gras bands parade and whatnot Mercer tilleke and october fest polka band if the same people school are are. Are you guys organizing this. I mean talking about the cortex going into the schools. All these different concerts because neither you're in the town righteous. How does how does all that. Organization work We initially did when we started. And so most of the context. We still make ourselves when we can. We really should expand. Go out into arlington or or colleague or this this town. It's usually mattis night that do that. That initial contact because it is important to us at all sort of it has to allot any with how mccain we grow What aligns with the mission of orchestra on but we are lucky that we have several orchestra members. Actually that help us with administrative work asked white significantly so when say actually scheduling each quartet's going here. There were really fortunate that our friend andrew does a lot of simple when you guys are going to these alternative venues. You kinda answered my question in your topic but you know. Are these places that you've actually sought out or do they come to you and say we want to work with you because we have They haven't done much in the last couple years but we have a community orchestra here in springfield that they re have really started to do a lot of different things specifically were known for having a lot of breweries in town. And there's the local craft beer. Scene is very big and so they did this concert in one of the you know beer factories which call them but anyway they had it in their little tasting room and it was called beer and brandenburg and they had taken and created a flight for each of the brandenburg concertos and they even have like a special. You know beer that they had for that night's specifically it was a really cool thing so you talked about that you know. That was something that the community worked on. They reached out to them. They reach out you know. It was a group effort. Is that something you guys do. Do you guys frequently have people come up and say hey you guys have done some interesting things. We want to collaborate with you so amazing. Oh gosh i love that gonna head back to springfield right. We all should I think montiel's would usually. It's been us right that have and usually it's organic rediscover our new place a we we did. We would discover a new place in memphis. This is really needs an interesting people that are there and they would be just fun to get to know them right as i think. That's the phone. And then sometimes you get know people are not interested in new bringing your music and than other times. They are and then from the air. Sometimes the most beautiful future collaborations development ethic has certainly become a little. Bit more tricky. Since we don't live there anymore. That's probably reason why. It's more organized from our side on. But i was like Amazed about your story story. Luke about school year breweries the costs. I'm not sure if you saw that. Kevin s orchestra fox valley symphony than appleton wisconsin and being conducted from germany which term is a very famous pantry for beer. Not only the year bought. Guess watts they made a beer named after him and was a big honour young. You did my music director interview there a couple of years ago and i got the job in. It's it's a wonderful one of the finest or in wisconsin really a beautiful people and then the executive directors at my. Gosh we should partner up with mick fleischmann's of brewery town and make a beer for you. And so they did. This called souder. Brian has the first part of my name and call my parents. I told them about the beer not about the job. That's highest honor. Was what what. What's the style of beer is light dark. What is it. We were actually able to sit down with the with the brewer and he asked me. What kind of beer do i like. I was really honored model. It in that sense. I love wheat. Beers is pm with You know sort of like notes of clove nutmeg. That kind of thing. of course. These flavors are not mixed in right there just natural products of brewing process until it s what they didn't i really love it awesome. You'll have to try it. I have the honour to try it. Yet thence ryan are you almost ready. Almost gotten into the almost would martinez was supposed to conduct a concert there with the fox valley symphony in march march. Thirteen fourteen And it got cancelled the day off right. Where did the day before bryce you hired me for was a pops concert. In new york. Tenors and friday days still said earlier on so we flew in to appleton and sets Concentrated policy saturday. Evening dislike hundred and saturday morning. A an around ninety. Am to cancel the council. So to three tenors. And i were in town at the best time in my life because we sort of wing for breakfast An irish pop right next to it so we were like late evening and night then flew back home on sunday. Unfortunately without concert. Yeah that was a weird weekend. I was work at the professional orchestra box office. And i remember like we had a sold out concert on friday and same sold out concert on saturday all day. Friday was just like oh god. We're going to have this concert and was asking if we're going to have this concert. That was merchant march thirteenth. Was the day that will be remembered. Right did y'all were. Y'all able to have the concert council now. Martin march seventh. What's our last concert. I think seven pm luke. How has it affected you. Your work in you're doing. I mean i have a small community orchestra up near kansas city that i'm the director of thankfully. Are we have our. We only have four concerts a year. One of them typically end of february first march so this year it was. I think it was march eighth that we have the concert. We were so close to cancelling it to But we decided to go ahead and go on with it. It turned out really well. It's being a smaller community. They weren't exactly worried about the virus so it was learned things. It didn't really affect us too much until after the school. Rehearsing in the high school there and the auditorium at the high school was built for the symphony. But it's at the high school and so we lost our ability to rehearse and obviously our performance space which we still haven't gotten back so this you know this fall. We've just been doing a lot of digital concerts rehearsing in small chamber groups. You know it's it's a change. But i think it's really good for the musicians. It's definitely a different a different way of performing and rehearsing and playing. I think them having some ability to have a say in the music you know it's like hey guys i don't have to make all the decisions here. This is chamber music we do. This is a group. What what are your thoughts. i think. Yeah that's something that they don't typically get. And i think it's really helped him a lot. You know. Obviously a community orchestra. We struggle with things like intonation and listening and so being able to really bring things back into chamber groups. I think is really beneficial for the orchestra's a whole room. As far as like progressing as musicians and learning how to work as a team and a unit now it's good Always comes back to jabber. Music momentum. works was now that you're doing that. I think that shows great leadership. Actually you know to not. I think we've all been there this this year. That were moments. Where i really wanted to dig my head in the sand and just wake me up when it's all over But of course we can't do that and good. Leadership in in that regard is finding the the silver linings right in finding new creative ways of marching forward. And it sounds like you've really you're making the best out of it and giving them the best possible experience That they can have at this point in the conditions that we're given so who does view that's really awesome. I definitely been enjoying being able to play with them Because i i didn't want to sit there and tell them what to do. I wanted to actually like play with them. And so that's been a really. It's been really fun. It was really unfortunate. We just had our christmas concert on the sixth. And the saturday before that performance. I tested positive for covid and so actually couldn't make it and we had to get a different horn player involved to cover and it was kind of a little bit of sad that i didn't play but you know it's never thought i'd have to sit out concert. Hope you're doing well. Who been feeling okay. No much better. Yeah i definitely. I'm still here and i'm not a hospital so i have a lot to be thankful for good awesome. So we're we're running up to about an hour Before we move onto our last questions which would be The hidden gems and just partying partying. Advice is there anything else that you guys want to cover or address or or plug before he before we move towards the end. I was just because debbie something to talk about because we organize and nodar online conducting academy which is december twenty. Eight rue generated january eleventh online enemy. Which which was kind of late decision. Maybe a week ago. Small london last year to program by the flexibility that will get like six ritual conducting lessons of. It'll be five or six seminars with three guest speakers from switzerland memphis and your that something to point on it as well as lilly. Yeah and that's that's through. That's through memphis. Who's in vietnam okay. L. yeah i i'd i saw that. It was so you get the. I liked that you had like kind of The hybrid system. You had the conducting lessons and then you had like kind of the self study technique program right. Yeah yeah we actually developed so over the summer right when we weren't able to have our sinfonietta academy in person we thought about what. What shall we do and we decided then to to turn us a week and a half into a four week. Online program and online conducting academy actually worked out incredibly well much better than we could've ever hoped dreamed for it to go from all angles all aspects so we had thirty two participants from four different continents and lots of awesome guest speakers guest lecturers and so the participants would get conducting lessons with both matias an i. Sometimes we teach together though. It's fun to do that. And sometimes it be individual and then we'd have those special topics touch on scores studies or marking Historic performance practice and and topic specific things. Also a an excursion into underrepresented composers and what Programming should look like if you are responsibly. Engaged world citizen and twenty th century musicianship now twenty first century musician and then another really big part of the academy. Was this eighteen. Chris gorriak technique course. The does not put together. Where we upload. It regretted sixty videos. All sorts of conducting subject it starts with really the basics and then goes through more and more advanced conducting techniques sort of modeled along model Developed a healthy conducting switzer conducting technique. That hopefully explains every every concept by how our body naturally organically works by the idea that you're not working against your busy but use it to your advantage and and that sort of an model along x rudolph's grammar of conducting uses that sort of terminology. So they are participants. Should those instructional videos. And then they could upload their own videos of recognizing these concepts the neat thing than with this go react. Platform form is that montes night can go online and at comments that are time stands right time code. So you get this feedback. Check your elbow with little bit high. You know at comments in the participants that completed part of the academy. Because of course everything is alan terrier is optional. We saw incredible progress in the lessons. Themselves to just progress was a lot quicker I really liked that you. You have all the different elements of it. Because i think a lot of a lot of workshops Innovated this year by going online. But you guys actually didn't just go online. You're actually created some new stuff. And and i like again. I like all the all the different angles that that that the workshop gets so. I think that's very awesome and my question is always the hidden gems question which i'm kind of excited to hear what you have to say. I'm always looking for composers. That i don't know about specifically. I really love digging up older composers. It just never had a chance. Because they weren't sorta beethoven so like what are some specific composers as you have found that may not be frequently played or a lot of conductors. Might not even know about them. That you particularly have enjoyed Discovering quite similar program actually since we both teach school Besides like Full baber talked about before on we both florence price Xenical rich taylor on come. Quite communist clean. Specially these rediscovered by Those are composers. we do One other composer snuffy experienced haven't ever enjoyed the music of fanny mendelssohn right so the overture nc as unfortunately the only orchestral work of that we know of who knows it may be some. That's attributed to. Her brother was actually harbor notes. And this apiece. I really love and have programmed. Lafley think we had program for the august concert with symphony at the that unfortunately couldn't couldn't happen joseph boulogne yet. If we're looking back into some of the classical area of bologna chevallier this and then living composers. Someone who absolutely obsessed about lately is medicine. Jose elise on who writes absolutely gorgeous music and all of his music is actually for free so very kind of him to do that. And it's music. That is i feel. Like what about is is approachable for young musicians. So it's something that i've been doing. My youth need college students. And at the same time it has enough substance and content in the interesting facets that it's also really really great for professional groups to really versatile music and then then our final question and wrap up is If you could erect a billboard with with just about anything on it to send out to all of our listeners conductors around the world today what would you. What would you want to send it to them every day. The good human being because good things happen to good people. You know and Again understanding that it's not about well when raises really it's about people and bringing people together and everything we do. Hopefully as a musician is to connect and to build bridges and to include. Make everyone feel welcome. I feel that's that's so important A wisdom that our teacher always shared with us. John was that this was especially useful as a young conductor conducting student rear in this theory field. Of how am. I going to get my foot in the door. He said well kevin. What kind of skier are you will kind of skier are you. We're like what would he knew. Can the skier well. Do you ski down the mountain in a straight line. So that you're down as the first person note fastest person and you win the contest skiing on the ill or econo- skied on preps lubis or end in wavy lines with lots of turns What is the right way to do. This said no probably the the snaky the s approach because yes. You might not be the first person down at the finish line. Might you will have met so many people along your way you will actually have had enough time to take in the beautiful nature around you. Beautiful people around you. You might have come across obstacles that you then were able to saul by working together with others. Ohio gonna get across this country. No two huge tree stump in the in the way And even though that route might take a lot longer it is the route that is so much more. What's the word english better for the soul. Because it understands. It's not about you i didn't. It's not about winning anything and it's not about reaching a goal really is about the process and the voyage to travel in between point a. and b. that something that sits with me really kind of every single day that's great. I love that. I love the metaphor that that makes so much sense. It's so clear. Yeah if i can add something is well here It's very important What i would say is. I fully agree. That important also is like to go for your agrees that something i learned because You know your four conductors together at the same time when he wants to become a conductor you can. There's always a way never give the are a lot of different pass to get it to achieve it but which was the case for both Myself to would never have thought. Just a second. Like ten years ago that i would end up being in the united states having dr Bucking at teach at the university of its noway lots some out and way through that with all these challenges. You have always challenges. Stay true true to yourself. That's something which rod is up here very hard because when you think Have to follow this particular approach. The sky change the way that you're actually are. You won't be successful. stay true to ourselves. Believe in what you do fight for it. Stand up for it. There will be something in awesome. Well kevin mattias. Thank you so much for joining us today. This is this is a treat. Yes it was in. Cuba was a treat plus converse. Thanks for having right. Some point have to meet in person all the four of us. Yes we should share concert memphis. How much would that be. We should do that and get some some suitable acid original dry rib very rigorous apps. We should do that though. I think you would enjoy the concert party. That's thanks so much for joining us for this episode of podium time you can find everything in the show notes below and please reach out if you have any suggestions for guests or improvements to the podcast. We're always striving to make podium time. The best podcasts that we can for you conductors and students to send us a facebook message or use the contact page on a website with any suggestions you may have. Thanks so much for listening to this episode. And we'll see next time mandelson's. Italian symphony was performed by the czech national symphony orchestra. And beethoven's overture was performed by steffano liberace.
Full Episode: Wednesday, November 04, 2020
"Good evening thank you for joining us. Election day has come and gone but the big question remains who will be the next president of the united states. Majority of states have answered. But they're still not enough information in five for the very latest in one that became a projected win for the biden campaign. today go to on nightline coworker. Juju chang reporting from michigan juju byron know. There are only a handful of states. Left to be decided in here in michigan. Only a handful of votes left to be tallied with ninety nine percent of the votes counted. Joe biden is projected win by a margin of about one hundred and twenty thousand votes now. That's roughly ten times the margin that candidate trump won here in two thousand sixteen of course. President trump responded by filing a lawsuit alleging among other things that his team was not given meaningful access to vote counts centers across michigan but michigan's secretary of state tonight telling. 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And because i believe in my heart that he will do the right thing for children were feeling cautiously optimistic at this point excited to see trump on the board and most important changed. And i want to see if the into corrado virus and my daughter was one of the two hundred and twenty thousand americans lost their lives khurana. Virus i voted for joe biden and kamala harris for a number of reasons first of all. I'm an environmental attorney. So obviously championing climate change policies and green energy. Policies is really important to me. Abc martha raddatz criss crossing the country over the past few weeks. Talking to dozens of voters excited for election day. Yeah very impersonal. What was most encouraging. Is the civic engagement of this country. There is no one who didn't know about this election. There was no one who wasn't interested in some way about what was happening. The problem is the divide is so so great. History made in new york state mondaire jones becoming the first openly gay black men who elected to congress. I was never running for congress to make history. It was always about running into to deliver tangible results for the people that raise me for the community that lifted me up out of poverty that always believed in me and that and that continues to believe me in ritchie torres. The first openly gay afro latino man elected to congress it's surreal. It's overwhelming and i never thought as a poor kid from the bronx that i would become a member of the united states. Congress nightline was with torres in the public housing project. He grew up in days before the election of the mission of my life has been to advocate or the people who live in public housing advocate for the forgotten city. We're not asking you to fill democrat. Cory bush won her congressional race becoming the first black woman to represent missouri after launching her political career during the august. Twenty fourteen ferguson protests. This is the police for this show up for the protest. It wasn't until after. Michael brown was murdered that i realized that there has to be more to this seat. That's what my eyes started to open that something is missing. There's a disconnect and we should have more rep bush helping the democrats retain their majority in the house although that number narrowed with republicans actually picking up seats republican women capturing more seats than they ever have in a single night the gop so far seems to be staving off efforts to overtake their majority in the senate and as the country moves closer to learning the presidential election outcome. Millions of americans are still out of work struggling financially as deadlocked congress is unable to deliver another round of pandemic relief the country still as divided as ever. You how you heal a nation like this when one side thinks the other side is is basically. The devil is an enormous problem. We are all americans. We want this country to succeed. The nation is going to have a lot of healing to do no matter what staying informed has never been. More information is coming at us faster than ever. So how'd you make sense of. It'll start here. hey. I'm brad milkey from abc news. In every weekday we will break down the latest episode in just twenty minutes straightforward reporting dynamic interviews and analysis from experts. You can trust always credible always solid start here from abc news. Twenty minutes every day on your smart speaker or your favorite podcast app. Welcome back early. This evening. i spoke with barbara comstock former republican representative from virginia. Amanda renteria ceo of code for american the former national political director. Hillary clinton and tara set mayor senior adviser with the lincoln project. Thank you all for joining us tonight. Tear i start with you. How would you describe where we're at twenty four hours after election day. Well i would say that we're a lot closer to a president elect biden than we are president trump continuing on in a second term. And you know as close as it is. I think the american people need to have patients. They need to keep faith and we need to keep counting votes and any any attempt to stop the legal counting votes. I think is something that the republican party not have an appetite for despite donald trump and the misinformation. He's putting out there because he's he's staring down the barrel barrel of defeat and throwing a hail mary with these legal challenges which i suspect are not going to have standing moving forward so that patients have vigilance and let the let the system work. Amanda as you know we are not a patient people right by became out to say. He believed he was on track to win the electoral votes. Will you agree with this assessment. And why or why not idea. I mean last night. Twenty hours ago we were hearing. Milwaukee wasn't counted. Detroit was having mira county wasn't done and when you look at all of those areas that's where buying was moving and pushing his votes in addition strategy of. Oh by mail that they've had in the very beginning. They knew it wasn't done yet and so he came out with his steady worries. Let's do this keep buffet. And even though it's difficult you see. The the slow trickle of votes coming in going towards biden does help everyone. Keep the right now. Even though it's hard barbara the president has taken to twitter claiming he has one stage that no one is called in claiming there's a lot of quote fraud involved in the county. Is this the way to win an election. No i don't think so. I'm part of a bipartisan group. That's really focused on counting the vote. And let's calmly and carefully and soberly let the states go through their processes and get the vote counted fifty fifty country. We knew this was going to be a close election and a lot of these states and we need to have our people have confidence in the whatever the outcome is and that will come about soberly in seriously getting this process done and i think that is what you're going to see our senators on and to see most of our leaders and i think events but ultimately would happen and i don't think i'll take too long as usual. The exit polls put into focus certain segments of hidden america terror and amend. What were some of the things that stood out for. You wing seeing the voter breakdown for the candidates. I was actually surprised at florida going for donald trump as much as it did. And the collapse of the latino vote for for biden in in south florida. I think it was a missed. Opportunity there florida's. But to see the latino vote a particularly latino men break so much for trump. This time around. I think it demonstrates that the democrats have some work to do in that space. But we're seeing what's happening in arizona which was traditionally a republican state looking very good for biden different dynamic there so the regional differences were clear here of ended. I think what we are seeing is that trump brought out people to vote He did increase the number of folks who came out to vote for him. was expected before on the latino vote. I am excited that we're having these kinds of conversations. I think anyone that has been studying. Latino goes a really long time the differences with in the community itself are really important understand and you are now seeing that truly on display. As in many cases they are the tipping point in one state or the other. But i gotta say one million more latinos turning eighteen year. This discussion is just the beginning of what we're going to continue to see across the country and barbara final question to you. There are many republicans who are hoping for red wave many democrats who were hoping for bluewave. Neither of those things happen. We remain divided nation politically. How do we bridge this. Divide regardless of who the ultimate winners and who do you think might be better than i think. Ultimately the american people are really sort of a centrist people where either sort of center right at times are central left. so i'm encouraged that. We have republicans retain the senate. But you also have mitch mcconnell someone who will be able to work with joe biden is president. Be able to work with them. People like i'm susan collins. Who won her race. Who is well known for working across the aisle. And i think what i'm really excited about is to see We're gonna have the highest number of republican women who are elected of one some of those tougher seats. We'll have twenty eight or twenty nine women and have more diverse with latino women. We also had several latino men who won their races so we are seeing a little bit more diversity in the republican party. Certainly not enough. I'd like to see more but one of the things we also had on the state level. We did very well and winning. Sixty percent of the state legislator seeds and they're having more diversity. So i think as you see people come up candidates. You're going to see a more diverse republican party. So i think as you look post it's going to look different and i think our policies are more popular. Perhaps than our current spokesperson might be. And i think that's reflected in how well republicans ended up doing but if either side gets pulled to the left or the right far left or far right or this populism. I think the american people reject that they don't want corp packing they don't want radical policies. They want to stick with these centrist policies. And i think you're going to see the next congress working outright. Democracy is a complicated thing. Barbara abandoned. Tara thank you so much again for your time and your insights. finally tonight. it was a light medgar evers of n. Double acp in mississippi. Who said freedom has never been free. Stay with abc. News for the latest election develops throughout the night on world news now america this morning and good morning america nightline for this evening. See right back here tomorrow. Same time thanks for the company. America good night.
CBS2 NEWS PM NEWS UPDATE 11-29-20
"Hello i'm andrea clayton thomas in here your news headlines from cbs new york mayor de blasio says new york city public schools will reopen again on monday december seven it will be a phased reopening with elementary and pre k. I school programs. Serving special needs. Students will open three days later. The plan for middle high schools is still being worked on and the mayor says the city is figuring out at time life for when schools in orange zones with higher infection rates can reopen a show of support sunday for the two hundred men facing removal from their hotel turn shelter. Multiple groups protested near the lucerne hotel on the upper west side rallying for the men to stay last week. A judge upheld the city's decision to move the men to a radisson hotel in the financial district. The search is on for the gunman who shot and killed twenty one year old man and left a nineteen year. Old man hurt. Police say shots rang out. Saturday around four thirty pm in a park in freeport long island the victim is in stable condition. Now the weather sunday is sunny and beautiful with a high near fifty five vanessa. Murdoch says sunday night. We'll get increasingly cloudy with fewer with a few drops below forty eight monday expect heavy rain and thunderstorms with a high of sixty three monday night. We'll see lingering showers in ob breezy and cooler. The low forty nine. And don't forget you can get the forecast and local news headlines twenty four seven on our streaming service. Cbs new york. It's free easy and always on just go to. Cbs new york dot com. Or get it on the cbs news app. I'm andrea client thomas or cbs news.