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EP 29 - THE VALLEY with Irene White

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EP 29 - THE VALLEY with Irene White

"Hello. I'm Sasha I'm Steven and this is shut up I love it. podcast where we invite our guests onto champion an aspect of pop culture or the world that is generally looked upon unfavourably joining us. Today she is an actor and a writer and I mean you guys can see her like everywhere everywhere and a whole bunch of television shows. She was on such shows. A conic shows as scrubs Gilmore Girls Sabrina. Bring the teenage witch iconic. My Name Is Zorro. Judging Amy ally mcbeal wow huntress we're really gonNA insist there's and goals whisper and she has appeared in many motion pictures as well so on friends which I think is a little bit better known than Tun. uh-huh such movies as the party. The Green Hornet and probably something else that I don't know about. Yes I was in men women and children by Jason. Right and I was in a Clint Eastwood film called the seven. You'll in fifteen seventeen not to be mixed up with nineteen seventeen not to be. Yes we've seen seventeen. It's four hundred years earlier three on a train and she's also like in the Tana commercials but the most memorable probably recent appearance would be her. Kerr devious Carol on. NBC's superstorm so true so true agilis. Oh Gosh listen. Carol has big feelings. Okay that's what it is. That's how you connect to her empathy. And she really you know Oh she wants to be loved like everybody else and she maybe doesn't have the greatest co coping mechanisms. She's GonNa make sure that she gets that love also booth. We don't we're not going to spoil. I'm not going to spoil anything. Welcome Irene White. Thank you for being here today. Were cool resume. I didn't know there's so many cool all things on it like I kind of dug in a lot of great credits. Thank you I have to admit. I don't know what the huntress is. The hunters was a television show. Probably really from two thousand that starred a net danial okay. Who is going to Michael Moulmein? Okay from Smallville the moments I- She's in the it maybe she's married to Michael mckean old anyway is she and her daughter who. I can't remember. Who played her daughter? Were like Crimefighting team and it was on like early. USA or something like that like or TNT or something like that. Yeah now the size of the fact that you're an actor writer television writer There's also the couple of other things about you. Write your big cat person. Jason Oh God and your big France person through. I am a francophile and a feline file. Right what are you more. which filing more France or cats? Oh my God. This is Sophie's choice. Yeah I mean I guess because I live with my cats I'd choose my cat right. They will be happy to hear. I don't know they'd be happy they'd act like they weren't even listening they'd be in different weight what we're not talking here about either France. We're not even talking about the movie. Cats which would be a great topic. I know but see. I never saw the actual musical so I don't have any attachment but whereas a few Felino file. Do you feel like you have to know. I actually not after hearing about it. I mean I recommend seeing it as a way to entertain yourself. Stephen Miller seen everything. Yeah I see a lot of movies. Yeah it's it's bad. It is bad objectively bad. I think so. Yeah and I I've also never seen the musical only exposure to. That's that's how this would be for me. I mean I know the song memory but like that's it. Yeah that that song is good. Yeah and this almost everything else is is not so good and and I saw the first weekend effects weren't finished famously. Asleep Judi dench's hand and it's not true it's like every other shot characters. Hand will switch between a normal normal human hand and then in the next shot. It'll have some I two there were still rendering. And now there's a new version with the finished visual effects effects. I Don I think it's worse. It's probably a little less entertaining. Yeah I think. and maybe like in the filmmakers defense. Perhaps it's not got a great piece of art that translates well to start with I don't know I thought there was the second part but you. It was just like you were like. I'm we nice burst now. A little defense. I'm trying I mean like west side story find. That can be a movie. I feel like maybe it. Doesn't you know it barely has a narrative. That's what I've heard is that that's what I've heard. Why would you make a unless like? It's an art film. Yeah why would you want to move for Fellini's hundredth birthday last week and would we do happy a happy birthday blown reo. I wanted to see something of photography knees that neither Jay or I have seen or remember seeing so we chose a movie called. I think uncalled either veto or something. I don't know basically I would call it like broad city. Before broad city thing in the fifties. Yeah but like so just kind of like four or five loser guys and like Italy in some village but like I just I couldn't couldn't we watch for an hour and we're just struggled with it and turned it off. Of course we turn off a lot of movies. We quit on a lot of movies but it was like it was just bad and and the massage and he just doesn't age right just no judgment like boys will be boys. Misogyny just did an age well so sometimes even like there was no story story right. 'cause it was a broad city type of just dudes like just kind of being jerks And will like if there's no story there's no punishment for how a terrible Louis are. We don't care this fully neil sorry and returned it off do not recommend but okay. Hey we are X.. Amount of minutes. It's into this pot. Yeah okay I mean what. Are you here to talk about today. I'm here to talk about my love of the valley. Now which valley talking about talking about the Valley of the dolls. uh-huh I'll tell you read multiple times the dolls excellent great are you talking then about Valley no are. Are you talking about Uncanny valley when not talking about valley. That's a reference ICU. La I don't know what it means to explain if you I would like to know. It's this the idea that I it's used specifically with. CGI these days but it's the idea that as something as CGI starts to look more human woman it becomes more unsettling to you because it's not a perfect representation of a human so when it's just a little bit off it makes your brain kinda go like what is this. This is wrong. Let the groundskeeper almost which is not CGI but the performances groundskeeper and get out or something where people like off. Just something off off about them you know and so it's referencing that your brain goes into an uncanny valley door valleys because there's actually They like to draw a diagram of like how your brain works on. The forces like doesn't look like human at all super cute like a teddy bear the more stars going towards human like this teddy bear starts. It's getting more and more human features at the moment that really more looks like a human wishes cats right which was talking about it it probably like what is this and you bring unlike freaks out in dips from I like it too. I freaking hated And when you come out of the Business Valley you'll go back up is like if you perfectly perfectly imitating human being but like the question is cancer. Gee I do that price Ohio. And that's probably why a lot of people reacted violently violently languidly to the protesting to the Irishman like the DA. Okay because it looks like it should be Robert Yes yes looks just not quite real. So interestingly in that so I didn't know that until after I I I think I stopped while I was watching. What's happening little late? You will like WanNa committed to this four hour long. Yeah but but then I was like Oh yeah it is I I. It's it's unsettling. Yeah Yeah it's a I. I think the theory people have is it say Kind of like evolutionary lizard brain kind of thing where y'all my species stay away. Yeah right like you're seeing something once that it doesn't quite look like you so you don't trust that thing you know fighter flight run get. Let's get away from this thing. Yeah I didn't know that but and so that's what we're here to talk about young but sounds like the so the topic I know nothing about. I can't really tell you that I love it. I'm talking about the San Fernando Valley while nobody's syphilis listeners. In Africa I mean all kinds of okay so Los Angeles the city of Los Angeles and by the way the San Fernando Valley is the city of Los Angeles in which I feel like a lot of people. Don't get the fact of the matter it so I happen to live in studio city and so which is also also called North Hollywood and also the same thing. It's also called to Luca Lake and but in fact is all the city of Los Angeles so you could put on my address Los Angeles and then put the correct zip and it would get to me. I think I lived in Hollywood. Okay well anyway. I'll tell you about that in a second but I'm speaking specifically of the East valley which would be basically from the four oh five to Burbank. That's my jam okay. So you're not going out to like woodland until no that's I'm sure it's lovely but I can't say I love Woodland Hills but I know you've never been no I mean I've been because I've driven out. That will do a Gora and stuff like that. Calabasas have been out there. But I'm talking specifically blocks the Lankershim life you're talking about. Are you going to like Sherman. Oaks is like that the cut off I would say my cutoff is Hazeltine. Will Jane Sherman Oaks Terminal Or Valley Glen. Sometimes it's called. What happens after that like what happens in the outer edges of it becomes van is which I just don't know very well so what I'm here to defend? This is a trial and part part of the valley is is the East valley which is like North Hollywood studio. Oh city to Luca Lake. I even like Burbank. So does it end with burping like going east. Yes because then it becomes Glendale. I would not consider Glendale the val either. An Eagle Rock has hills and a lot of mountains. Iraq is not because I think the valley in my opinion is on the north well is on the north side of the one thirty four. It happens to me that where I I live south of the one thirty four. But what is your address. ooh Who but I. I wouldn't consider Glendale the valley and I and Eagle Rock is not the valley either. So we're talking about various specific part of San Fernando. Yeah yeah like sort of like the fancy out Savin part of it no well. I wouldn't consider North Hollywood fancy but I think studio city has reputation of being being kind of fancy. Yeah in Burbank. I think also parts of Burbank. I think are really really nice. I used to hear like Megan Fox eats a lot in burbank out like eats out out in Burbank. And it'd be like what are you talking about people. There's you'd see Megan Fox conflict linear. Let me tell you something about Burbank. You're gonNA tell something. The friend of mine is her cousin so he sees her a lot for holidays. That's why he's going out to eat with her Fox Siegel Wealth Wolf so in Burbank. There is a new whole foods. Okay are you with me. I am so far. So it's on olive oil. You can give that address. Yeah it's I think the address is olive also near Alameda. It's near Warner Brothers. It's in your claim jumpers. It is you've been to this whole foods okay. So how do you travel for a whole foods. I had to use such a healthy also. It's in my blood you know. My parents love whole foods all over the country. Uh Parents Foods. Yeah so yeah. No I've been to I want to go to burbank a lot. Okay have you been to the bar there at the whole foods. I haven't okay. Well I'm just going to tell you one great thing about the bar beside the food and the fact that it's amazing if you say like you like Bud Light. Oh Okay Amir like meal bud light but here at the Burbank wholefoods bar. They have too many all these exotic beers on tap. And you're like oh no. I don't want that you can go into the store by your bud light for free. Will you'd have to pay. I mean it's free to go into it into the bar and they'll let you drink at their Do they ask me we or someone who might look younger for an I D. I rarely get asked for an idea now so I'm not sure. But that's you're acting like beautiful fate. Yeah sure that must be wanted So anyway I that's one of the things that's my main burbank experience. Great so for making a list so far. The whole foods is on that list that's Burbank. That's Burbank all right. All right so we have that going on the sidebar. Sure we keep like so. So what are we comparing. Then this part of the valley. Yes you like you love as opposed to okay. So I lived in Hollywood proper for nine years and and Can you give us a little. Bit of like win was Dash. I know there was like that was nine hundred for you right from ninety born in La. Sorry no I I was born. This is going to open up a whole kiss. Let's open up can't this. This is what we're open things up. I was born in Beirut Lebanon. Are you of that. I am not Lebanese but I think that if I could get Lebanese citizenship if I wanted to I haven't pursued military dad or my dad at the time was working for like a branch of Citibank and so we lived there and and then we lived in Riyadh Saudi Arabia but we moved back. You speak it no But I'll tell you going back to France for so Beirut route or Lebanon was until nineteen fifty five a French colony kind of thing that may not be the right word but something like that and so like my baptism certificate is is in French. People speak French there and so I wonder if that's why I like frazier but we moved back to the states when I was a year and a half so I don't have any memories of it so no I wasn't born here. I was born ever since you came out here right. I moved out here. Ninety six from Texas no from Saint. Louis Okay I I had I or connection line long. It had an acting job in Saint Louis so I was there working for children's theatre company and then I moved out here and I the first place I lived was near. UCLA okay. But I lived there for like less than a year so west. La Doesn't count. Won't listen. No I mean I did Fischel. Rules rules on the PODCAST. We don't count okay anything less than and then. I moved to Gardner in sunset near like the rock and Roll Hall with Proper Opera. Yes for sure and then I moved to melrose and La Brea which I still consider Hollywood and I lived there until two thousand and five. Okay so then. You moved to the Valley to Studio City. Yeah Valley village. Where's Austin and this picture? I moved to Austin in two thousand ten then and came back here in two thousand fourteen right back to the valley right back you know it. I wasn't considering Hollywood. So what happened in Hollywood that not. I love it so one of the things. It's very difficult to park in Hollywood and I don't think anyone would argue with me about that not Stephen. It's very difficult difficult to park there. And my apartment had a parking spot but I had a neighbor who would block me in and then I couldn't go anywhere and it was hard to park on my street and it was and then if I I got in the habit of not going anywhere after five o'clock because I knew it wasn't going to get hard to park when I came home home. Cats were super into it. I didn't have cats so yes so then. When I moved to the valley it was like there's probably everywhere her I don't have to I can I can go to Ralph's at five thirty and there's a parking spot and I don't I'm not GonNa there's so much more space parts of this is enough for you to be like my life it changed? I'm going to be honest with you. It changed a lot knowing that I was gonna be able to park like it changed my social life. One hundred percent. What are you think Stephen is is a person who has to deal with parking rights? Because I know sometimes you be like I have the can somebody give me a ride because the car is parked in part. We're mostly I live Near the cemetery okay right And we also have a parking spot but we migrant. I both have a car. I try to not Brat and leave it not to Brag but we both have cars. Oh I see not to brag graphic craft but I try to leave it open for her at night Whenever I can so yeah if I got a really good parking spot and Ah We we have a show every other week at at the plug. I can't wait and so the idea of then losing that parking spot. Yeah it's tough like that's crazy to consider that and this is my symbol. This is because they simply do not exist. So it's like no I I can't I can't go see. I feel a little deceived mildly. Because of the what valley are we talking about right because either you coming being would like on Google talking from Canada Park to like. I don't know where that is yet to like What else there's a almost like a porn area right with the? Oh I think van is has a reputation for porn but there is. Here's the vivid buildings on Barham Cross from the Nissan Dealership. Here's the thing. Every time I drive on the one zero one I just give a finger pointing to the visit. Here's the thing I guys like. We're talking about the valley right. Yeah I guys spend so much more time in the valley like the proper like Gross Valley and you do spend the time their own my God like because you were talking about the pretty side of the valley. I'm like here's a person who spends a lot of time in places like Doc Simi Valley which I don't actually know if it's a value not like would lend June valley woodland hills very well but then the Yelich okay dogs it for woman in Reseda. We seat on North Ridge and then Somare Dr Anybody are is near Seamy Valley. No it's the opposite direction is like the East is the east north side of the valley. So it's like if it's one seventy and five meet. Oh yes okay and it's pretty. No no no. All these places that I'm bringing up are not pretty in what I mean gene. bye-bye that yeah and again it's still to discuss whether like Hollywood versus the valley. So why don't you take like this raw valley on talking like raw baby. This is like like more industrial Sharon of life talking like people driving eighty miles an hour on like a five lane. Big Big street like Recedo for example like out is the reason I spent all this time. They're right because the solas suspense is building up. Because I'm wondering I I make no because my dogs train with people who live there yes and so this is where a guest normal slash normal dog people live. There are a lot of dog. People are dog people yet because they can have yard. Yes and there's a lot of dog parks out there. I don't go Mike. People don't go to dog parks to like good for dog park. Okay so they like art yet like they have like lights installed to the Canadian Jew. It's seven PM. You know what. I mean curric- agility equipment in the backyard. Right I'm talking like you get out there. You like okay. They'll be like the dog trainer will be like You need to you. Buy Your puppy. The specific Like a thin black like a training lead like a leash right cool. I'm going to get an Amazon. They're like no. I'm isn't doesn't sell the right once. You Go to Red Barn and fight in person. I know where that Red Barn and was like I have no idea what you just said. You don't Know Red Barn who literally the drive by it all the time. It looks like a red bar and the really like try to get me to go in Hollywood barn. Yes I've been places and and there's this thing first of all I mean like the valleys sort of convenient because you can go anywhere from the valley writing but like it's fucking far like when you Recedo Sita even just to get to one like if you deepen receded. It takes a long time thirty forty minutes and people are trying to kill you on the road all the time because everybody's driving very aggressively and fast and there's the the traffic lights in every little block at the same time so I'm driving not pleasant. There's a lot of dog food as not not being picked up now by my people because they pick up the poo pretty well and it's just like a lot of like Desaparecidos. I sense in those areas serious because it's just very vast and very flat and it has to do like maybe because the people that I'm dealing with it has to do a lot with like I don't know there's just like like there's no like a nice bar in the corner restaurant where I see. There's like own music plane or people hanging out nothing. It's just like desolated related houses and Red Barn in the middle of them right that whole area. Well that I mean that part of the city was probably country right tied her no fifty sixty years ago. I don't understand like I'm like so. What is it you know? Well I think one of the beautiful beautiful things you're highlighting is that there are so many facets to the valley so many facets this might be a good time to talk about the reputation of valley starring as one especially among people who live in L. A. Absolutely When people talk about the the Valley V? It's usually not positive now. Now it's very pejorative. What kind of things? Irene do people when people talk about the the valley what are they. What are they saying? You know you someone who lives in the valley it must hit harder I think I think when people think the valley they think old not fun suburban Not Hip flan flat hot. Yeah a little high for sure. I have a bone to pick it now. I have a bone to pick about about this about. It's about a two weather reputation. Yes because during the summer it gets hot in Los Angeles if it's ninety two in Los Angeles and it's ninety eight eight in the valley. That's not that much of a difference and I'm just here to tell you that that's the truth and I tell you when we go to recede you feel worse now received a could be a different. I think the further north you get worse it is like you need somebody on the show who can defend receipt. We have a person from Woodland Hills on the line gave us doc. Let's let's let's loop Amon. Don't well he gave us his feedback as a person who lives in woodland hills born born and raised in the valley. Yeah so he says. I like living in the valley mainly because the rant is more reasonable And you're still relatively close to places like Hollywood and Silverlake and if you're in Sherman Oaks. You're actually relatively convenient distance from the west side. Considering littering how close you are to the four oh five A lot of bars and restaurants have been popping up in studio city. Sherman oaks as I imagine people have been getting priced out of hip or areas. So that's nice and while there are definitely some valley trash people Over all the places a little less pretentious than an echo park where las feeless. Probably because the average Asia's late twenties to forties the deeper you get now it's interesting the the more quote unquote suburban. It gets chain restaurants and stores Probably Red Barn that I mentioned as well. I wish I wasn't so so far out and I think he doesn't mean it far out. No no he's got a Hippie A- too many chick fil A.'s and Shit but if I go a little past where I am. There's some beautiful areas surrounded by mountains including the spahn movie ranch where the the beautiful place for the Manson family. Oh hold up. I think the valley gets a bad rap by people who think they're too cool to live here when as a whole it's more filled with people who are just trying to be able to afford to live in something larger larger than a shoebox that being said in Canada Park Slash West Hills. Canoga Park Canoga. Yeah just one flooding no dude. I don't know well that's where I am. There is a conservative best and people seem to hate the homeless. which which I can deal with the homeless problem is in really? That bad out here is blown out of proportion if anything that complaining this that this homeless Syrup tents near the what. If what Tim I mean how long was re like where do you live. And he was like. Here's the deal so it's a mixed bag but assholes live everywhere. Holy Shit wrote a book. Sorry which I thought he was just not going to answer and then like an hour later got takes. Here's something else you need. That people love the okay. All right well maybe Valley People Love Valley. And so I think think it going back to your original question which is what do people like which people not like about the valley. I think I'm not. I'm not sure where the reputation nations came from. I think that when porn was I guess becoming sort of more mainstream I I guess was happening a lot in the valley in Van Nuys and then valley girl came out which I think made everybody think people from Bali or stupid. I still have friends now. Who who will not move to the valley they because the principal yes will not do it and they have have children now and they're still living in an apartment and I'm not saying things? Rents are kind of out of control everywhere now so I don't. I'm not saying you could get a house for two thousand dollars in the valley you might be able to somewhere but but you could definitely get more space but I have friends who yes on principle or like no. I'll never move to Willie. I'M NOT GONNA say who it is but a person who's class we've met okay. I think so like he lived in Santa Monica Right. Hey live okay and I think he was well off like television writer and stuff like that and so and then like they bought nice apartment in Santa Monica. And then they're like we're we have a kid who's growing. Let's move to the valley and I mean we're talking talking like Nice area into lake. He moved right and he was like. Oh my God I cannot believe it. We bought a house in the fucking valley. He's at a canter Santer. Believe it he said it's so scary there and I'm like you know the most fucking liberal person I know. Yeah yeah acting like a white asshole who is like over like Santa. Santa Monica is like you know we're like white people belong and there's people of other races pretty much what he's saying. When you get out I guess out of like really rich neighborhoods in Los Angeles so I just kind of weird that he like moved into the valley in hating it? We was hating it like well. It was really nice part. The Valley Lake is really is really nice and so convenient like it's it's great. I mean especially if you're working at Really any of if the studios. Well I guess not paramount Fox but or Sony. But if you're warner brothers Disney. It's super super convenient universal. All that kind of stuff so irene take us back to two thousand five. You're leaving Hollywood. Yeah you're you're preparing to move now. The valley has has this reputation. What is your thought process? What are you thinking what you have to move? Where are you going to move? How are you making decisions? Well so the initial reason that I decided to move was because I wanted to get a cat and my I was in a building in Hollywood that did not allow pets and the French people or Frenchman. Neither one and French cats for God lesch fall off the when I was this was a period of time so fifteen years ago when you really could get a lot more value in the valley than you could now I mean then you could in Hollywood so I was living in a one bedroom apartment and I just started looking looking at craigslist and the rents were astonishing to me in the valley and so I went to look at a couple of apartments and just was like soul basically like this. This is only one hundred dollars because it was more but like this is only one hundred dollars more than what I'm paying for right now and I have a private parking spot and there's plenty of street parking and there's a grocery store here Anand an-an-and and so it just became a little bit of a Comfort Comfort. A No brainer. I was like why would I stay in this apartment where I don't have a great landlord and move to this other play. Why would now? I will tell you as soon as I made that decision. I panicked because I was like. Oh my God I'm moving to the valley and it's getting late one eight phone number because I did this one I saw was it for you like becoming less school on the old that you know what I mean which come it would be less cool right right because yeah because I think part of it that people feel like all the growing. They're moving into the value and I was very active at theater. That's no longer around called Iowa. West Palm Yeah. Rip Peas and it was In Hollywood would and so I used to be able to shoot down willoughby and then I mean talk about tough parking. I don't know what I was doing it but I was. I need to find a gated it. Parking for free with the code. Because I knew I had a friend luckier can. I used to just walk up. There did. Yeah so I mean I anyway so there. There was an element of like. Oh and going to be so far away from my oh I wasn't really No I mean I do you live in now. I live off of Lankershim or that's my exit is Lankershim Off The one and one that Universal Studios Universal likes ex frigging work at superstore. I will tell you can walk to universal but I don't generally do it because I'll have very early call times and and you have like a nice parking spot. Probably there will be no. I mean it's like the parking structure perfectly lovely parking. It's whatever I can find Frankenstein Lot. It's is that what it is. Okay I just know that there aren't there that is one of the parking lot at universal. All Studio yes in the. I'm sorry at the theme park. Maybe I park in the I know which talking to and like the one or Oh the other one the other day that sounds like a nice spot. It's great it's great but yes so but I did have this moment of panic and it's like Oh my God. I'm moving to the valley. What did people? How do people react when you told them whether you like? We'll never see you again. Yes there were those people who were like. Oh my God really. We're that people who Shunned you for your choice I I don't know they. They shun me. They probably silently judged me I don't think I'd lost any friends for moving to the valley but I don't know but yeah I like it like I now when I was moving back here from Austin. I didn't even look into moving into Hollywood because by that that point to rent the rent kind of everywhere cut sort of exploded. Two people love Hollywood because sounds cooler. Yes you think I think so and I do who think that Hollywood is convenient like as an actress. Commercially I There's more commercial audition Shen studios on that side of the hill than there are in the valley. There's several of closed. I think there's one there's two in the valley now but most of them are on that side of the hill or or in Santa Monica so it is convenient. Yeah also pretty centrally located. It didn't know if you're traveling to different parts of the city for different reasons I agree with that easier to get to Hollywood from are easier to get this entry from Hollywood than the east side and then easier sure. Yeah absolutely and if I have to get to century city now you can take me an hour whereas in Hollywood. That wasn't the case. A Hollywood is absolutely a good location. I think we're not here to judge anyone who lives in Hollywood. No it's it's it's but I've I've I ended up finding it ultimately cramped and a little scary. There's parts of that are now. There's probably parts of the valley there also scary but I find myself more scared than parts of Hollywood than I find myself scared parts of the valley the inside my burden right outside of it. I'll tell you there were a lot of honestly at I started becoming Relia- west absolute that part of Hollywood Hollywood became really really like I was charged charged exactly because this woman recently right like God poured like Hot Poo. All over. Okay okay. I don't know a bucket with the homeless man like pretty much near I. O Meyer West Pity is these from it. There's definitely like stop going on in Los Angeles but hey yeah. There is island New York for eight years off. I've seen I've been like I my friend Taylor and I moved to this apartment an upper east side. We're like this is our places we're GONNA live here. We'll look out the window on the second floor and C man just pooping on the street. Like right outsider. Peter Window like sweet home. Yeah it's all good Cool well sounds like we got enough on the Valet. Unless there's anything else you you want to add. I'm just looking at more parts of the valley. Lots of bars in the valley bars. Yeah but the drive to get there. Well you mean from from if you live in the valley for many wear unless you live next to the it's so spread out. How far do you go to? You can walk walk to go to any book. I have a group of friends and we call ourselves the studio city committee and we're on a group tax and wow yeah and so this is getting deep. Yeah and so then like somebody will send out a text. That's like hey anybody wanted me to Laurel Canyon. At two o'clock I mean at Laurel Tavern Iron and then it's like Yeah Okay Great Chatsworth anybody. That porn house chats for Chatsworth is where my dog gets massages. Yeah Yeah because that's where his massage ladies. He doesn't get that many massages but he gets them once in a while because he's out porn house But Chatsworth which is actually very close to where Sean lives. Who is yeah? They're very close together. They are close to each other. Yeah we should give give out Shawn's address we don't have it but we'll guess what it is and you can get. He's an avid voter. So you could get it off the voter registrations Sean. Yes True Carney K.. Cer N Y so yeah I think we covered the valley. I think to vote on this piece of land. We'll associate what is what do you think of the valley. I guess you've told us a little bit like you don't like their valley up Sir. No but I don I again to me. It's just a huge huge difference between RESEDA. Where traumatize but a place like so hot like going there? It's ninety five degrees is hot and it smells bad. There's cat dog poo everywhere. Just giant streets People driving like they're out to murder just like very sorry aesthetically pleasing to the eye Just like that stuff on their own. Talking about Latino like the flatness doesn't help how not pretty everything MHM where'd you. I live when you moved out here. I always lived here because I moved to J.. Yes I always lived in Eagle Rock and the did you know of the valley before you came out here like valley girl awesome places like valley girl. Good yeah sure. Yeah Yeah because I know it's it's always fun when people do that But I I feel you like I never got to know the valley as the valley until I started doing the dog stuff right it sounds like it. Yeah because again like I don't like some people who've been think like like Eagle Rock is the valleys of people who are completely clueless like it'd be like Oh Eagle Rock or you live in the valley. I live in Santa Monica and all that I wouldn't think that it. Yeah I I I don't think Pasadena's The valley you know but I was felt like I because I got to know kind of Los Angeles from beginning asking Jay about like look soul developed. He's a valley's he's pretty convenient because you can in Eagle Rock is convenient. 'cause you can get to the valley to whatever and he'll be like and the good you just go down to Hollywood or whatever like He. There's always like kind of underlying how easy it is Pro Valley Pro Valley Kinda but when we start talking about the deep valley which was neighborhoods. I brought up before in northridge receipt at like I feel like this is where I'm like really seeing what people mean when they talk about the valley where the reputation comes from there. That could be. Yeah because I don't go to local and go. Oh my God I'm GonNa fucking valley do like right. Watch out like there's valley thing happened. I'll tell you there are people who do the west side over to Warner brothers and be like Oh God yeah Burbank. I'm in the Valley Burbank. Yeah I I think it has to do with people who like literally just move here and the like I have money and I sold at Santa Monica's really nice so I'm just going to move directly to Santa Monica in like lived there my whole life and never go anywhere else because they don't work in film and Television so they don't have to like addition or the Improv practice or like do anything else like in the studio right today like just live in Santa Monica and it's like cool bubble of like tourism an overpriced green. Watch days so and that's kind of it so then the look at everything else shit pretty much And in the course of Dilip Culver City. Here's the thing I'm GonNa tell you right now. I- Culver City to me me a lot more like boring and hard to get places from there and further away. It Culver City feels remote to me. Remind I'm almost never over. Were there but when I do dishes addition so again like where I hang out. We're like all IMPROV. Happens and stuff like that. It just feels like the the the central like the fancier part of the valley is convenience spot. And I'd rather live in that part of the value that you were defending Irene And then live pretty much almost anywhere in Hollywood for sure really you. Hollywood us feel very crowded Very aw like uncared for because people feel very like. It's like a transient for people. Who moved there like move there for a long time? That will move there to have children. They move their like usually like like you know become an actor become an actor there were not and then they'll move out he actually move away from that spot so because I would love to. Where would I love to live in La La? Right if I had all the money I don't know I've never liked it here but I do but then like I feel like loss Buick. I actually do like like feels like we'll see less too so like I guess if all the money in the world now where would I live. I'll be like nice place in Los fees. Can I totally hear you on that. Sob Ten properly. Yeah Santa Monica will be like three dollars. I four Santa Monica is just so far I feel like our so far it feels far. Culver City is like Oh like a five. Oh above Santa Monica. Yeah because it's a little closer like Santa Monica just feels like you'll never be able to go anywhere. It's so isolated so isolated town John. It's town such Trentini get there. Yeah and then once you're there you have to be there yes beverly but eleven. PM The words you've got stuck contract. We'll say that when I have auditions in Santa Monica and they're at like five. PM on the Friday. Friday right on that big. Yeah I know exactly. And it's not so much getting narrates the getting getting. I'm going to be getting. Yeah so the fancy part of the valley that you're defending I keep calling fancy which it's not fancy but I think it's fancier would be like a local nate okay yea Los Angeles is a tent. And that's I vow. I am thinking validate date. Your receipt is I mean there's probably worse placed receivers just like no way are going really traumatized by certain parts of it and hey a former Zita feel free to send some hate emails. My weight toddy sings about received. It does me and look what heaven again people from the Valet. Lovely the person whose whose response we read. Sean is one or best friends. I love him obviously has nothing to do with. People is just sort of the VIBE and how does it make you feel sure like how does it affect your last style. That's what I was taught selling. So Yeah Yeah Stephen. What about you hum so I have lived in Hollywood since two thousand eleven and I like it I like there? What part of Hollywood are you? You told me the cemetery. Oh that's right that's right Y- I think a thing about the I I don't put too much Faith in all of the silly criticisms of the valley you know I like I prefer he over cold so I I don't have problem. That's how you oh I mean you know. I came from Maryland so like I know cold I can he but I I prefer it to be above sixty degrees. At least and I'm you know Peop- A lot of people say well it's easier to get warm in the cold than it is to get cool in the heat which I guess is true but I I just prefer. I have opinions about average believable. I I want to follow up on something you just said Real quick before I get your vote so you like where you're living and you don't. You don't have a big problem with the valley if somebody I said. Hey I'm having a party and it's in Sherman Oaks folks. Would you be like yeah I would okay. Thank you for your honest what it's Mostly because it's it's tough to get up there okay. You know I don't I don't necessarily think That I I would have a problem with living in the valley but living in Hollywood and then going to the valley that is it feels like a hall yet it up unless unless you're going at like ten thirty am It's GonNa take you like or like eleven eleven. Even some people are lay eight. Say That I think that that's accurate. What you're saying and having moved to the Valley I do have to just sort of building more time to build in places and so and that wasn't an issue when I lived in Hollywood I genuinely felt I could get anywhere in about twenty only five minutes when I lived in Hollywood? And so I I hear you on that I hear you pay go anywhere like like like the fact that I have to go somewhere like just to go to a party. Oh my God so sometimes it down the block. Yeah I don't know if I would do like Los Villas Fair party also because you gotTa Park the parking the biggest biggest issue. Yeah but the great episode I think for those people who are considering considering moving to Los Angeles. I hope that's who I'll tell you to a guy that I knew from Austin who still lives here. was moving here and he was like. Do you have any INVI advice for. I should let Alex know. Okay can go. Who's Alex? It's okay you'll move from Austin was like wow this is crazy. Didn't this guy's David so he he was. Id Advice for where I should live. And I said the only advice I have is that you get an apartment that has a parking spot and I don't everybody's everybody's going to recommend a different part of the city and you're GONNA learn it no matter what. Make sure you get a place with parking spot. So he then let me know that he got an apartment in Koreatown. Ooh I was like thank you very much. I was like one of the rockets and I said but does your apartment have apart and he goes no no no but there's plenty of street parking and and I was like oh day he got here. He moved here his car got towed. And then we'll see think and then he got a parking spot then he got a parking ticket a street cleaning parking ticket and then like and then and so two initiation yes and so he i guess in some ways just hadn't taken me seriously seriously. I didn't think it was that big of a deal but I was like I think it was personally was ice immersed sita so that's what I would tell l.. Anybody back again. If you're out there you planning to move Los Angeles good. That's a good tip. Just make sure your apartment has a parking spot and end of story be the. That's you're not sure that you have million parking like walk around million blocks and make sure there's parking spots everywhere. I duNno I duNno I mean like like even I feel like you can't predict that if you're looking at a place when when we moved into our current apartment. That was a big thing that we were concerned about was finding winding street parking. There's two of US have two cats to do and and she. She loves French so she's she takes a lot of French classes. What wait what is her name? Because what if we're in in class gather her. Name's Megan bigger now. Where does Alex? The says where's that it's century city. Sounds like a valley. No Oh it's nine. Oh okay it sounds like the kind of place that would be. It's really far in some ways. It's worse than any of the place. It's hard to get that. She was taking French at Valley Allie collars so I took it there and I took it at also anyway going. Wow your shoulders shoulder and French Efan I was like an apple rubbing robbing robbing a pulse. Probably in college coming together I thought he said Phallic College at First Malik and so yeah. We're looking for place with parking was very important to us and when we found the place that we eventually did move into even then like I would before where we moved in there every once in a while. Let's drive past their right now just to see what things like right now and even still. We can't get a good sense of it. I think having that parking spaces this is a must love going back to your rating this great tangent graceful flow. I'm you know I grew up in. A suburban area in Maryland is an apples. You know. It's a city fourteen now. I guess my parents still live there so I doubt docks here the yeah. They're gonNA get swatted and the thing about the valleys. It reminds me a lot of like that. Yeah down that I get it which is a great? It was a great place to grow up. I'm glad I write it. We also a great place to to move away from and move to a city. I really like the city the part of living in Hollywood. I hear you on that I liked New York for how city was. Yeah I was telling my God like I love that. It's like who walked the crowd of sixteen people and they're like screaming and then like where you can hear the neighbors having a conversation I was like okay. This is how you live baby. I can totally see that. And you definitely don't get that right right I I could. I could see myself moving there at some point in my life. I I don't think that's out of the question. I also like I mentioned before. Like how centrally located Hollywood. Ask 'cause I I drive all over the place to go to different movies and stuff. So Ah being. Centrally located is import. Dave grohl lives in the valley. Welsh it now I can never say you know but Stephen also said he would like consider it to pay in future when you did to Papon Cass. He's just really like hey we never have to think about in the planet may not exist but if it does you consider him tonight so if I was GONNA and gives for me despite its many flaws Hollywood would be ten. If I could live anywhere would probably be like Nice house like in Franklin village. Oh yes like right there and so. That's a ten. I will give the valley seven especially who specifically this part we're talking about. I spent A. I've some family and Woodland Hills and I've got sean. No Sean and I are not family and we never will be e. ESPN and I don't think that part of the valleys that bad either. I haven't been to the parts that Sasha a has had such a violent reaction to but seven feels feels right from me great Irene. Well most importantly yeah where is developed for you if Paris ten If Paris's harasses ten irene is wearing a shirt that says Paris. I don't think we need to be so I. It's funny not like you. You just mentioned Franklin village like I live in Larchmont village Hancock village or Hancock Park kind of jamme. Jamme those those twenty five million dollar houses really. If I can just pick up one with like an old speakeasy in the bottom Adam or whatever so I mean the valley for me. If I could live into Luca Lake. Near like Bob's big boy it would be like a nine in for me if Peres ten. Wow Yeah wow what about Hancock Park ten. Oh Yeah Hancock Park would be if I could do that. Yeah although I don't know where people people grocery shop over there but I learned the pavilions. Oh right online. I feel like people who live in Hancock Park. Don't maybe they don't worry about it. People like me to bring them. They're great. Yeah that's great. Thank you goes there anything that you've come across in the last week that you'd like to tell our listeners to shut up and love. Yeah I actually got to watch watch the first season of the television show with starring Mad Berry aforementioned I feel quickey bringing him up water in this podcast called a year of the rabbit a bit. It's comedy a crime. Procedural that takes place during like the Nick Times could turn of the century but in London. It's a group of people who are investigating crimes and every time it's just something silly and funny and has to do with how gross and Disgusting Costing Life was back then and I am just amazed at how perfect act structure of that as a writer. I'm like this is in most amazing seizing midpoint low. Like is just an so funny hilarious to look it up. Yeah I think it hasn't come out in the states that legally yet Like I got to watch it but I think it is coming out of the rabbit with Matt Berry. Stephen What about you know. So it's It's Oscar or season The awards coming up. Nominations just came out and every year when the nominations come out. I try and Clean up all of the features that I haven't haven't seen already this year. I've thirteen left. I don't know if I'll get to one of the ones that I haven't seen yet is Harriet by CASSIE. I see lemons but I did recently watch her first. Move The eaves by you. starring Samuel Jackson journey smaller. And it's great and That's what I sold right. I think it's older than that point. Yeah came out in like the mid nineties. Is Angela Bassett or no Angela. Bassett is not in that one. Okay but yeah. Basset Hound Answer Angela. Bassett hound okay. She had never mind. That's probably who you're thinking that is long ears and it's a it's a very specific acidic movie about this time and place about a This black community in The by U And the relationships between the members of this family very specific. That's what I loved so much about. It is how specific it's time and place it is and the performances are good and Cassie Asi. Lemons has some really great visual ideas. That she in the cemetery for put on the screen and It's it's a shame that she's only made five movies then in the last twenty five years because it feels like she. She lives still our sheets so she died she was recommending again. Eve's by are you is by you grade. I do you have anything. Well I'll tell you it's so I on a whim started watching the first season of damages images starring Glenn Close Little woman named Glenn Close. I don't know if you've heard of her. It's a woman named Glen. Yeah Glenn Close Hound Glenn Glenn close encounter. But here's what I realized I love about it. Is that Ted. Danson is in it which I rose Byrne Turn Rose Byrne. Yeah so what's interesting is there's no iphones in it. And it is so enthralling to see how how communication and how plots were done before people could tax to like it was just they have flip phones and and nobody texts at all. They try but they can't if they did. It was unsuccessful but anyway I just want to say say shut up. I love it when people don't have iphones Jiang's Guy I agree and I hate adding them to scripts that right. Yeah but we have to sometime. For instance instance a fabulous movie is the firm. They don't even have cell phones. Not Flip phones nothing. He has to go find payphones. And it is so good. Need Anyway Great. Well thank you for coming by. Where can we see you and or find through our iphones on Internet's that's okay? I do have a website that is Being under it's going to be reconstructed very soon. But then Irene White Dot Com and then I'm currently recurring superstars if you turn on tune in Thursday nights at eight PM Seven PM central on NBC. YOU'LL S- number one comedy these days. Yes yes I'm not on every episode but I make an impression crushing when I am. Oh Yeah. DVD's deviant Andy L.. Both Sasha we're fine thank you worked hard was Compare cells to that. We can't but we will. Is there parking where we can see. Oh you can try. I find it every second and fourth Thursday direct to video are Improv. Movie team performs at Moving Arts Theater in Silver Lake Los Angeles. It's quite a nice neighborhood on hype hearing Avenue from nine to ten PM come on by and say hello thank you Carlton and less before your videos. Thank you Elizabeth Salud for artwork. Thank you Andrew Heyward for Music Jay. Eight hundred per year production support thank you.

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Mike Dawson Will Talk The Pants Off You In The Back Of A Corolla

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Mike Dawson Will Talk The Pants Off You In The Back Of A Corolla

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I'm kind of like grossed out by some of the people act and dress like i'm all about style but sometimes i'm just like wow. These guys are thirsty. they're thirsty yeah just like okay. We get it you want. Someone took a picture of you and ask who you are. it's kind. I don't know it's gross. We should we are. We should go up to people and be like may i have your autograph odd. That would actually be funny. If we ran any man on the street took a picture with you. Your love your work of your work. We went to to luca lake which is kind of by burbank and sherman oaks and that that jam it does look like everyone is trying to be Our friend brian actually put it in a very funny way or was it you right i forget but someone said Like everyone looks like they're either working like honest or designing the set. The set does that which is so funny they do. It's like this eclectic colorful way of dressing but it is like a set designer. It's very funny because it's hard to stick and losses all the time but which is why. I chose our guest today because he is the antithesis the anti that scientists. He's the anti coagulant. It did shakespeare play right now. He's the anti my intro away. Because i want i want to tell you is exactly why we're going to talk with the wonderful mike dawson today. So if you listen to the adam kerr show you totally. Know who dawson is. He's been a character. You know a person forever and ever. He's the voice of the person that does a lot of the segments. He super funny super cool. I've also noticed as i listen the past couple of years. He's gotten a lot more like talking time in general so i feel like we've gotten to know the character of him from behind the scenes of my radio days. I've always heard of dawson. Because he worked in san diego radio for awhile on. I'm sure we will talk about this with him. But he was really highly regarded at this one station and he was music director there and a an on air talent and then i had remember hearing that there. Was this big blow up at the station and like a big shakeout of corporate versus music people. And then i he left or you know went on to work with corolla which i thought was a big kind of like cool. Fuck you to the radio. Now they're sitting on top of the game. That doesn't happen a lot exactly Doesn't and we'll hear that he is the voice of many different things including a lot of audiobooks and Some sports competitions and fun stuff are think once you hear one word out of his dude's mouth you're going to be like he should be in radio he should. He has it right. I'm so excited. I really think his voices unbelievable. I do too if he's one of a kind well. Let's let's just come on fuck around here to talk us into the sleeping bag. That would be so cool. That'd be great shooter. Asked him about to do it. So i wish i wish we could ask him. But we'll probably forget and that's why it's not gonna happen remember. You'll go into the sleeping bag with mike dawson something. I love about you right at the top to compliment. You sir. is that You speak so fast sometimes when you are doing that and we were talking about this but dawson does the adam corolla show all identity theft or monitor all protects your transactions and all this but lifelock can help keep what yours yours with lifelock identity protection right now use promo code adamant get fifteen percent off if you wanna use promo code a promo code. We ever adam and eve fifty percent campfire tempa. I can do a much faster if i'm reading it. Yeah that's awesome. How i've developed an ability to read ahead of my brain. How do you do that. I feel like your brain is so smart. I dunno lucky. I don't know i guess. Okay i've got a. I'm sorry. I don't wanna go our with you in this. I just need you to say it. So i can just get it out of here. I know it's horrible. Ask you can you just say in a world. Because i know i know you had to do that. One hundred thousand times in a world one bar fifty beard. Thank you is gonna hurt. Mike dawson is ways to unlock dude. You gotta voice you gotta no wonder you are where you are in an instrument it really is a guarantee to if i was in a random bar off a highway in kentucky and i met you i would not fuck with you at all just without voice and the feeling no way. I apparently can give some pretty mean. Look do you mean when. I'm enjoying myself. People look at me. Go to you pissed at me. Know what you look so angry soup so having your voice be such a predominant part of your entire persona right like working and Like like when you make random calls to schedule an oil change. Do people comment on it. They don't comment on it but they treat me very nice especially especially if it's a lady at the other end really must be you have the voice i'm wet. I'm wet so i got a call. I got a call from collections agency. They're like forget it. We took care of it for for the collecting for the city of los angeles. And just because i formed an llc and now i live in los angeles they feel like they can come and take tax but were exempt through a creative artist exemption under three hundred thousand dollars a year we pay zero taxes. Ely wait this is good to know. This is for the city of la but it only matters if you have like an llc way you know you're incorporated some right here's this dossier angeles right and and And the lady. The lady calls me cheese. You know talking like a collections asia and i say you know what ma'am. I'm very sorry about this. I'm sorry that the city of la has started waste your time. I didn't even live in los angeles. During these years. I lived in burbank. And she's like okay. Mr dawson wool. Would you mind sending them an email and copying me on it and then we just take this off our books. The nicest collection talk to sending you chocolate or something like that so pain you at the end so did you. I'm so interested. I mean we'll definitely go into podcast things i know. That's your present and future. But of course i know you from more of my my radio years and especially since i had always heard of you when i worked at the belly up to music. Venue because you were in san diego for a few years working at this really cool station called the planet that i thought was like It seemed to have a very good fan base. People feeling like the music was curated and picked really well and then all i remember as an outsider is this huge kind of corporate suits. Came in and changed everything. I just remember hearing about that. So like were you part of that Ending of the player. I remember hearing a music fan in a radio fan. Of course i was upset but being someone that was like a cousin of music venues so we were friends with other radio. People and i just remember hearing good things about you but then also like sad things about that kind of transition. So we're you caught up in that you know it's funny. Here's how that day went now. My show was from seven to midnight. Okay but since this weird Since i became music director The dogs dogs dogs were in your world record audio books in the other room and there are no bones bones so anyway i get to work. You know i gotta work from like three thirty to eleven thirty. Because god forbid you don't clock forty hours. I'm like dude. This is fucking radio man. I didn't get into this to do forty hours. Yes right well. That's the way it goes. If you're gonna if you're gonna have your stripes i love. I love how they make. I love album. Make a job sound so much more important by calling it stripes just fucking general so i go to work and that night at about ten thirty i get a phone call on the air from the general manager really ten thirty at night. Hey just wanted to check and see how you doing doing good man. How are you all right. Hey i want wanna talk to you about something so if you could come in tomorrow that'd great okay that sex. I was planning on being here tomorrow job. Go get a job So i don't think anything of it. And i drive home and do you guys remember. Midori lazelle midori on ninety four nine. Okay so madari's shift was from ten pm to to the sonic chill or yet and i would get off work at eleven thirty eleven forty five and i drive home and i listened to midori show and her and i just became friends. Sometimes i just call her on the way home. And i believe i had this conversation with her. The weirdest thing. The general manager called me on the air at ten thirty tonight anyway. So i go home go to bed. Wake up the next morning. And i don't know if you guys can verify this but when you work in radio pretty much the first thing you do in the morning is turn on the radio. Oh yeah a lot of times definitely where are we. What did any time there are legal. I d i am my clogs right. Yeah is a world there a giant news story going on that. We're going to go on air and miss. Do i need to be there now. Exactly and i turn on the radio and it's the new home of fm talk. Oh faulk the station is gone. I don't have a job anymore. What the far. That's why the general manager wanted to talk to me flipped it overnight. The flip it overnight. This is the problem. I have with brady. It sounds like it's so fucking shady shady every week of every day of your life. You're like this could be the last day. That's a hard way to live there. Must 'cause a lot of in you First of all the anxiety. Most of the anxiety was yeah. We were a live on the radio and that was funny. Because you know. I did a few shifts in santa barbara live but when i got to one or three seven the planet. You're like we're we do everything live. Were still running carts. Were still doing cds. Oh and i loved every minute of that. Yeah but when you get off work at midnight you're not going to bed to it till four. Am you're not gonna sleep well especially if you live in a condo complex or pb or one So you get a combination of lack of sleep and then that time leading up to having to go to work at four o'clock in the afternoon all you're thinking about his. I have to go to work track of a movie in the. It's five pm so the anxiety was really really bad for a long time. I i totally understand this because one of my jobs i own an company where we live art at corporate events like live painting life drawing that kind of thing. And whenever have a have gigs every day. But when i have a gig day even if it starts at from six to nine the entire day is completely utterly fuck. I can't imagine that being my every day. Because i get up. I'm like well. i can't do that. I can meet launch. I got. I got four more hours three hours. It's like it's it's insane to live that way. It must make you guys go crazy. It did i. I definitely think on the flip side the the early morning wakeup like trying to have your alarm go off at four. Am i feel like. I never got into that. But i was going. Say that also happened with a really great station in san diego that i love called k. Pri and they switched overnight to christian to christian rock and so it's not real. yeah yeah. They flipped in the middle of the night. And i remember people waking up. And jesus again. This can't april fools joke or something so the next morning. Do you have that conversation with your boss. Mean obviously knew it was going to be about. But did you end up going into his office. And i talked to the gm. Nah and he's i excel and he saw the look on my face and he's like sorry for the huge But couldn't really tell anybody and to give him credit he was like look. I like you. I think his name is peter Really good guy. And he's like look. I just i didn't want you to find out about this without at least hearing my voice. I couldn't tell you about it. But i just felt that i owed you a phone call to tell you doing a good job. Let's talk tomorrow. And i feel like at least you've the good side of things because the only thing i miss about radio is having the live. Buzz and the live more interaction with podcasts. Like we'll hear from a couple people every week and be like i like episode on tuesday. But it's like. But i feel like at least you guys with karol it's like he can tweet out something and you're taking your speaking to people and it's almost got radio feel it. He purposely made it the radio for all the cool thing is now. We're no longer doing a four minute. Show of sixteen minute blocks seven minutes of commercials every hour. We're doing two hours straight in and out you know. I'm from door to door three and a half hours a day really. Wow that's right. It's it's it's it's the new four in the door they also feel like it would just met you but i get the feeling that you have the best way like a personality that you're not afraid to say what you mean and you're like your own person did that get you in trouble in radio. Oh yeah tell us i love. I love trouble. I got i got called into our. Gm's office for canterbury. And i said the word moist and a woman called in and said that she was offended that it was like we have to talk to like five people in a boardroom and they were almost strong. Arming us to apologize and we were like. Why would we apologize. We're not sorry for saying that. A fucked noise yeah. I agree be a friend of mine. we are on a corolla crews and a friend of mine said who is on occurs. Corolla fancy goes. I have an idea for a podcast. It's just you. And the the podcast is only twenty two seconds long. And the intro is words that sound gross guy says one of them was moist. Could be mad at dawson. Says that is a great segment. You should do that segment segment. Yeah yeah. I think that's great is worth just gross when you say that. Yeah real weird about twenty of them lost like non non-sexual but when you say them yeah like moist is the perfect example. Be talking about a fucking cupcake i. It's funny like i heard a comedian. Patton oswald talk about how like when they do a tv movie like a movie that they put on tv. They have to change the bad words. And it makes it way crappier when they like substitute like i'm gonna fuck you in the ass to like i'm gonna put my ding-dong your hoo-ha and it's like that's way creep here than just getting fucked in the ass. So it's like a lot of times like using those different words really do so what what are what's one of the times that you got in trouble Well let's see. I had the president of the ventura. Chapter of the hells angels. Call the radio station. Monday faulk just Just played stone song and started talking about altamont. I said some things that you know. According to some people's time line is true and correct. According to other people's time line is one hundred percent false. And let me tell you that. That's you want to end up on one side of those tracks. You're listening to that. They called in listening in the fucking clubhouse hell's angels clubhouse down in the real greedy part of ventura that a bad ass club house down there. I saw way after the fact that more than happened and The guy's name is christy. Last name is christy. I can't think of his first name right now. But i've recently reached out to him on twitter because he george christie he follows everybody that follows him so i can direct message. Him and i sent him a direct message about a year ago. And just said hey. Do you remember calling ninety. Nine point nine k tied and and and having a frank conversation with a program director about one one of the. Dj's said on the air regarding ultimate and he gets back to me within minutes. Yeah remember that. Like i was that guy that dj and he goes good to now. That's good. I love a moment. Just thinking about this idea of like the the leader of the hells angels listening to the radio going. You know what. I'm gonna call that guy rushes into his office. People feeling he might have you know. There's probably a lot of other ventura chapters guys. Yeah toward like if my boss calls me office as my first betrayed est. Great mentor. boss keith. Royer k. Tied in santa barbara fantastic guy calls me into his office and he goes on the telephone. And he's a little shaky. My cou he just that was the president of the hells angels. He's mad at goes he goes. Believe me you don't wanna be on the receiving end of that phone call. Can you please not say anything. I just got goosebumps mike. I don't i'm sorry and i was. I was scared for about a day. And then i ward badge. Yeah i'm like yeah. That's good has there ever been in any other moments. Where like holy. Fuck that kind of freaked me out. That i just got a call like or threatening calls while you're on the radio Probably to yeah. Have you know. Never been on radio. And and i think people being on the podcast. We'll get an e email. Sometimes like i can't believe you said that thing right but nobody's threatening. I can't delete but like someone calling in and kind of a costing you a little bit. I remember now. I was doing afternoon drive in a resort town in michigan. But i was doing it from my kitchen in burbank. For like six years and i'd go out there every year but one time i talked about how The hustler was a great movie but the color of money was the stupidest fucking long time. Oh and then. I played the clapton in the way that you and some guy called. The station was harassing. Call the called them in michigan. Didn't call me. Wow but the the the music scheduler the the apd there. She's i can you. Can you please stop bagging movie. Because i'm tired of talking. My gosh. that's so funny. We have people that would stop by the station like unannounced as it didn't freak me out obviously because they have a few barriers to get to us but it was like who would just drive into his station and be like pop in and say. How do these people that are recorded. It must be true with both of you guys. But it's like they think that they know you because they hear you they hear your opinions. They agree with you there. Probably talking to the radio like yeah. I feel the same way. They like the barrier relationship with you. They're gonna come in and say hi. Yeah yeah well because of that. The part of the reason for that is that we're taught that when you're talking on the radio you're actually just riding shotgun with your best friend You know everybody's your best friend. You talked to one person you know you never say you guys. Yeah but Yeah it's it's It's a very very personal. That's one of the things. I love about radio. All throughout our lives developed these intimate relationships with disc jockeys. Yeah and we've never met before in our life but we feel like we know them that there are friends. Yeah and you have to realize that if you're going to remains sane in this business people are gonna come to you. They know all about you and as long as they're cool. You're cool. do you get. Do you feel like the people that associate with you. Do you feel like for the most part they get you right or do you feel like there's a misconception. There's a lot of paint on that canvas by now. But for the most part the people who i don't know there's like a of there's a lotta especially working for corolla. There tends to be a lot of lore surrounding certain people. Sure and in many cases in most cases it's because when that was first presented on the radio back in two thousand seven radio it's theater of the mind. Were having ourselves to at pouring into it. How much of that story is true. twenty percent. yeah you know things like that. I think over the years. We've i'm incredibly fortunate. I've been working for adam now for eighteen years. That's crazy. I feel like especially at ardine but still even more than six. Oh what twelve law anyone in kind of our age range of you hold down a job for longer than eight months. it's like. Are you retiring especially radio to. They used to say you haven't worked in radio until you've been fired. I get into radio. You're totally arrogant. Like fuck you do. I work in radio. I haven't been fired. I'm fucking good. Yeah the first. The first station fire me was one of the three seven them. Landon and i called all my friends told me that i guess what i finally work in radio absolutely. Yes they all go. And they all said Sorry dude this past. Like i don't know if you still keep up with radio news. Hopefully you're not doing that at all but like I love radio news. All access dot com and it was like a month bath right before code. That's when my boyfriend got like oh but like i feel like iheart. Everyone was just letting everyone go into robes like right before the pandemic and then it was like i felt people were like hanging by a cliff and then it was like just it made it easy for i think the radio stations let even more people. That's what it was they they were. They wanted to kill everybody anyway. Yeah yeah radio is not making money anymore and you know what fuck in all ten middle fingers in the air to you. Clear channel jacor to you and all of you guys fuck you. You guys are the ones who by having these massive can calm conglomerations and introducing voice tracking and foreign voices into the market. You got rid of the farm and you. You made radio less localized and that's the only thing. The radio fucking has going forward towns radio stations so good for you fucking stoked you lost all your fucking money but they used cove as a cover to fire everybody. They got rid of kevin and bean. They can the entire fuck and morning show and sure their their budget. I don't know twelve million a year probably hire staff but you know. They saw the writing on the wall with Spotify pandora why. Why would you listen to something unless you planted. Because look i have shit to do. I don't need to make a goddamn set list for my life. That's not my job. That's why i hate five guys burgers Because you've to order everything you got there five you. There couldn't decide on how to make a fucking hamburger it. Just let me order it so people you know And that's why i wear a uniform. It's a black t. shirt and a pair of jeans and a hoodie. Fuck steve jobs right off the goddamn. Listen so yeah. I like listening to radio. I like not being in control. Although when i was the music director at k. Tied in santa barbara. I wasn't control. And i liked that a lot. I liked listening to the radio. And knowing what. I'm gonna play next because you love music and i feel like that's also as we're talking about getting ready. Getting rid of the soul and the localization. I feel like getting rid of true music. Lovers is such a damage too because it just then the people listening. It's like okay. It's just everything program that you can tell. There's no human binding. I was gonna say like. I think a lot of people. Even though we're all savvy with Things like spotify or looking up stuff new staff or having that year right always on the new a lotta people say like how do you find music and i think that used to be radio us even if it was even it was like i like pop music. Well then you're going to the pop music station. You're gonna listen to the new stuff that's going on or the rock station or whatever independent but i don't wanna put my music curry curation in the hands of a twenty three year old silicon valley dude. Who just graduated from harvard. Sorry dude i'm not a i want. I want the guy telling me what to listen to. I want the guy who with with a shirt going over. His belly barely goes over. He drinks his beer with a cousy. Oh and he thinks trucker hat and he tacos it. He doesn't eat at five guys. I mean thank goodness though. That right now as radio is dying and it really has died in many ways that we were at the same time that podcasts were growing because at this happened twenty years ago with radio. There's like oh well what do we do. There's no way to even connect with people's and that we just die out. But like actually i feel. It's not sorry. Not just going to say i feel like podcasts. Are actually a new breath in many ways you have to search it out in a different way but you have a voice that maybe you can even be more raw honest. Want to get really meadow. That's pretty soon. Podcast going to be broadcast. Oh yeah on radio. Yeah i can totally see that. I've been saying this for a long time. And i kind of said at the beginning when Because i went through when i first got into radio. We the last of the independence. I was ninety nine point. Nine k tied at one point. Seven k light wanted to call to talk about anything else and also. Am ten seventy kcbs. Actually it wasn't ten seven. What we we don't give a fuck. It's fine it works. Sandy can must feel bad for you. But you're so talented that you have to use your talent. I'm sorry. I just like not do anything. I'm sorry i. I will never stop going to work until the day. You die sounded work seven days a week. Yeah we're able to ask about your personal life really quick single two dogs. I own a house beautiful. I know you're you're so cute and adorable and honestly i love this room. I know i said at the top of the hour. I'm just aren't gonna use a radio at the top of the hour. We re over here in weirdest garage. It's all set up for rock 'n roll guys. That's right no but it's totally a den. A den of like a cool dentist action type attractive. Guys don't have time. I know they don't know. Yeah yeah girls so specific here. Yeah i love that type What's yeah okay. So real quick My first on air four. Ed was on one on one point. Seven k lied santa. Barbara's light fm. That was saloon. Dion coming up. I got tracks but donald warrant the lighter side of weren't really pulled that dammit i met whitesnake because you know there were there were. There were a few versions of a lot of white snakes Yeah here. I go again. Is this love there. Were there were rock versions and were balanced. And they were. They were then. There were the softer on coming up. I got spandau ballet and so it was my first gig on the radio and they finally give me a weekend morning shift and i get to be on the air from eight. Am eight am to ten am and my parents. Come and visit me in santa barbara and we all get up early and we have. The newspaper delivered the radio station. So i just sat my dad in the corner. My mom is just really eager sitting on the interview east side of the desk and and she's just like bow. My son's on the radio and i do a break do break and the phone rings. Go mom the phone's ringing. Somebody's calling. I answer it just like at your job answer this girl. I don't know how old she was. Maybe like thirteen or fifteen or something and she goes one point. Seven k lied high and she hi. I just want to tell you the you suck a my dad's laughing his ass quarter and i don't blame him because i love about it now but at that moment i was like all we want to give the parents that were worth something that we like tries so hard. That's so funny mom he lives here. You little bitch to come down here. Thanks for calling. Yes like whitesnake go again. Oh my gosh. so then. I don't even know the story of how you even got into. Got the corolla gig. It actually starts with waking up one day and finding out the one or three seven is now seven. Fm talk. Tom leykis the afternoon. Adam karol in the morning. And i actually said. And i swear to god this one hundred percent true but i actually said to one of the people i worked with who also got fired. I said fuck these guys. I'm gonna get fucking job with adam corolla really and then i went home for for that. I i couldn't pay my mortgage so had to rent out my condo. I move back in with my parents. how old were you at this point. Shit thirty two okay. I love your trees. We honestly we all the time. But i love so much about hearing people being like almost seemingly going backwards and then going for it. I love that i love. That's how much joe it's thanksgiving and my brothers says to me. Hey michael there's a there's a station in san francisco that it's like jack. Fm but they are deejays. They're called max. Fm should just go work there. And i i look at my brother. You're fucking idiot dude. That's how it works. Hey i'm just going to show up and go. Hey i should work here. I should be on the air. I wanted to do it and and my brother's like will try it. Do what i it seem. Francisco man. it's like fucking market eight. Yeah i i can knock it. I they hire pros. Yeah and the the monday. After thanksgiving i sent of a resume and an air check in and the guy got back to me that day and he said. Can you be here tonight at nine thirty. I want to throw you on the air at ten. Oh gosh wants you to do. Twenty to thirty minutes on the air. And we'll talk and i showed up. I did thirty minutes on the air guy goes. You won't middays what you got it with that quickly and your brothers like fuck you. I told you. I called my brother. And mike i apologize. I said that is apparently. That's how this business works. Hey i'm here. Wow and so. I did. I did mid days. They only paid me for to live days. Now here's the thing was a san francisco. It's middays the hourly wages pretty damn good but they only let me do two days a week live. That made me voice. Track the other three days so i was still making three hundred bucks a week. It was right in san francisco. And you're on the air in san francisco days in sanford and you're making three hundred. Megan fuck that and every single day. I'm checking all access dot com job openings. Every single day and i see one day that they're looking for a technical producer for the adam corolla. Show wow fuck technical. But you knew adam corolla and i knew that. He's on the air the station. I just got fired from. I'm getting this fucking job So the the the posting was. Send us your most recent on air bit psycho. Fuck and your resume. I didn't have it on airbnb. So i downloaded editing software. Figured out how the fuck to use it. I grabbed the olympic theme. That dont'a and now we present the top five things. We hated about the winter olympics. Yes and and it was the year that bodey miller did not finish on the podium. All he was like bodey miller was like a huge failure and there was there was word party and one of them was i think number two was voting miller abra jagged time time and torino by the way what name did i use. Gimme gimme an italian name. Marie cocco okay. Hey by the way dude. My cousin marie cocco which means seafood and mexican. He says you still own for that lebanese blonde hash and then the number one thing that we hate that we'd like to forget about the winter olympics curling and that was the joke developed a serious love for curling. So don't get me wrong. I don't even fucking botchy on ice toews. Botchy on is the greatest of all time. If you haven't used that before that's great. I've never heard that before. That's adriana is so great so you you basically created your own segments Yeah so. I did that i send it in and i got a. I got a call. And they said We'd like you to come and audition okay so They wanna they wanna fly me down. I'm like fuck. I got friends. I'll drive save your money all drive. They put me up at the mondrian hotel. Which i believe is where belushi checked out. It's up just just down the street from sunset right in the mix of everything and this is you know sons have was still cooking. The two thousand six there was still quite a bit of action. And i got to see none of it because i was trying to go to bed at seven o'clock in the evening trying to wake up at three o'clock in the morning. Yeah and then jumping a taxi cab. No a drive there. i don't remember anyway. I either take a cab or drive. Or i think i drove took a calf skateboard. I think i think i remember you. Yeah curling all the way. That's not the point anyway. So i showed up at three thirty in the morning and worked my ass off for five days three thirty in the morning to four thirty in the afternoon. Thirteen hours a day. Wow and just figured out what. A technical producer is and thankfully. I downloaded this one piece of audio editing software. So i could kind of figure it out a little bit and i was good enough for them. the final test was they put me in a room with adam and and i had to record his commercials his syndicated stuff. Send that off and I'm in there without him. And that was the final test of can now now. Can adam work with and put me in a room with him for thirty minutes. Can i work with this guy to be around. And then they offered me the job. And here's a shit show moment love it. Love it I'll give you two of them that day. I was in the studio with adam. We were talking about bombs and stuff. And i really wanted to tell him the story about how i used to live with a math genius. Ucsb and he created a gravity. Bong an amazing that that knocked people out left resins stains on your teeth. Amazing piece of work. And from that day on i became stone dawson And he joked about it afterwards. He's like look if you're ever looking for another job. Don't talk about bombs to meet the boss mike. Okay you're right. And i essentially had the wrong idea of who adam was. I thought i thought man show. He's gonna love this not he's not he's fees incredibly intelligent and totally fucking funny right right Knows how to market his own brand in that way. He knows who his audience is. Isn't that funny though. How how it's like that. Little character then gets exploited as. Yeah exactly yeah yeah. I always feel like that to where it's like. You say these little things about and then it gets picked up on and then reflected back to in the weird way and then yeah. I've had to really work on lashing out at stuff that i create like of my own. I wonder if he despises the way that i mean. Obviously it's it's a brand that's been built for him by him you know but like men must look at him a certain way but does he despise that do you think he enjoys the people connect with any of his character. He he now he's incredibly appreciative. A of the people who give them the opportunity is we all are. We'll give you the opportunity to be able to do this. Sheriff early fantastic corolla also likes to kiss ass so he likes people who like him so as long as there's a genuine like there you're in it's every comic i've ever met. He's true totally. We're all. I'm not saying about him. I'm not going to sit as bowl thing. But i think a lot of comedians are kind of insecure and looking for some attention to tell okay the first to tell you that he's insecure. Yeah that he's i don't think insecure is the right is the right word has incredibly low self esteem. So i don't get that feeling from you. In fact i in fact. Don't give a fuck you actually. Don't give a fuck grounded and i want to touch upon this really quickly. Are you doing. stand up now to. I think i heard you do. I've done it a few times. And i'm doing it again. On march twenty fifth. Hell yeah how to get to that first time like it was a tough. Let me give you the second coach so much. talk about. Take your time to call. From jackson over mr dawson. We want to offer you. This job is the technical producer. The adam corolla show. I've heard the name of broberg program director. he's like. It pays a hundred dollars a week. He says it pays seventy thousand a year. And i'm like i'm biting my fucking radio. This is more than double what i made in san diego and i'm like fuck. Yeah made it gas of three months later. I'm talking to adams assistance. She goes yeah. That job was budgeted at ninety five thousand a year. I love twenty five grand table. Yeah that's so. I had a similar thing. They kind of offering me that around to do the show. And i started crying. Like kelly clarkson thirty grand i call. My parents have really truly has had like one american idol. And then they were that it was funny. Hollywood motherfucker oh man. But it wasn't a great move for. You must have been a great moment of vindiction. A indication decorate the great vindication. A live show In san diego at the place that had the flow rider with the wave house way. We did a live morning show. What on friday. Night that aired on monday and i got to go back and it was broadcast one of the same people. That buchan fired me. I got to walk back in. And i was i was. I was gracious. But i was arrogant. That's be fucking good. That was one of the best fucking days of my life. Yeah buck you all ten. I love that very rarely. Do we get that moment in our life right where you can actually go back. It's like of course you see those movies where the kid who got bullied goes back to his high school like look at me now. I can't even do a voice. That's close your voice on it. Yeah and so. How awesome is that that you've got to experience that firsthand in a very vindicated way. Holy fuck i'm truly blessed. It was a moment. It's awesome for how much longer after that moment. Then whether it switched to do you guys just going like podcast. They fired us after two years and then two months later we just celebrated our twelfth anniversary of the podcast. So adam started doing the podcast in february took a month off then started a podcast and his first pod guys was. I have no idea what this is to do. Yeah but we'll talk. We'll talk to some people will seattle. Goes you guys kept the kind of the same crew and just said well fuck it. We're going to go to this then. I think it was the beginning of the summer of that year. I think he did it on his own for. Maybe it was like april or something. He did it for two or three months on. It's all by itself. And then when he started to think okay. This might be something like lift the ban back together and we all got calls and nobody got offered any money to want to come back and do the show like fuck out. Yeah we all came back. And then and then i remember the day i remember the day adam was gave me fifty dollars. A show goes radio. You're doing too good. Be tested above me and mike lynch. You guys do too much to not get paid. So i'm gonna give you know like fifty bucks a week a week. Raj thanks. we'll take it. And and and now i own a house savings okay. So a lot of questions. I'm going to ask one of them So at this point. Adam corollas already been. He's already famous. I mean he's already had a lot of Stuff under his belt. He's got love lines he's been on. Had a show on mtv love lines right still your love and then yes are. Scratch that sound. Like you're seventy bro. Fuck dude grandpa. Twitter's man's show plural many dementia on the instagram. I i am getting older. I'm sorry yeah but was it at any time. I'm sorry maybe regretful. And that's awesome but like was there a moment where you're like dude. You're fucking rich. Like fifty bucks a week for this. I'm helping you build this new brand. Leo not at all. You were just like who. I'm glad to be here box. I was not raised with. They gimme mentality. You fucking get it. You put your head down and work on. But isn't there a part. Okay all right. And i don't wanna sound. I don't wanna sound grateful. I'm not beholden to him. I'm not yet my fucking daddy. He's got his own fucking kids. Yeah yeah ideals my deal. Well now i just sound like an asshole. I love lines said love lines and now this it's an honest question. It's an honest question. No i think. I just look at like. I think you're professional. I think you'd put a lot of work in. And i look at a situation where you're working with somebody who has a lot of Familiarity to the business and has had success and this is his. Show not our a lot of ways just by branding alone right. It's the adam corolla. Show the mike an atom show and so it just made me think like maybe. That's the wrong attitude to have. It really may be the wrong attitude for me to have. But i was like. Wow that seems crazy. Because i mean he's driving home in his car and his going to his house and and get that that but it sounds like you had the right play because now you're where you wanna be you know. They're to put on my tombstone today. He stopped paying dues Always paying dues always paying dues. And and i don't know it's good advice. Good advice and it paid off. I mean you're probably thinking i would. I think if you doing this for twelve years and you were still only making fifty dollars a week. You maybe like this is a good equation but like it was the thing exactly exactly so now now it seems like you put the equity and and you grow with stuff and then you i could imagine that it also allows you to have your own cachet. When you're doing like standup or doing your dos angeles doing your things. Where it's like. You provides opportunity. Exactly that's how i always. That's that's the one. Other thing about the radio that i felt was it give gave me this legitimacy that unfortunately our podcast at yeah exactly and it makes people be like she is someone somewhat when it's in theory for sure. We saw huge boost in our numbers just because she was on the radio and just an artist Fuck you. I'm joking that being said you've gone on to do things on the side for yourself. So what are some of those things because obviously you do voice over shit. Obviously what are some of your favorite projects. You've worked on I've recently i guess my i guess my favorite right now voice over project is i just I'm gonna use air quotes and say signed a deal. Oh we didn't sign shit. I'm doing all twenty of kinky friedman's detective novels all along. And for those of you know. Kinky friedman is the texas jew. Boys texas cowboy Is band was called the jew boys. He's he's a jewish cowboy and he isn't one of the most amazing fucking dudes. I've ever had the pleasure of knowing in my life and took me three years at talking to him and clink kink got some books. Their brother could be cashing checks. And you don't have to do a goddamn thing. Yeah well we'll talk about it. Mike three years later. Finally so i just released the first one. It's called greenwich killing time. he's so he's such a curmudgeon. Wonderful these books are great. And i'm working on the second book in the series a case of lonestar and now he calls me. I would call him about other week and just check on him was doing now. He calls me every two days. Doing on the audiobook mac. So you're doing. You're reading his books for audiobook presenting his boys. Yeah are you do you. Is there a whole setup is just you in a room doing it on your own. You're doing everything directing yourself producing it. Wow that's amazing. Wow day one day. Yeah i will. I will just be able to go into a room and i'll read and i'll walk away and stuff but you're doing it. All people don't understand it takes to do a three hundred page. Audio book takes four hundred production hours waiting by this. Three hundred page audiobooks to four hundred production hours. So wow that's a lot. It's a lot and when you have several of jobs and it's all cash catch cam even if you work as hard as you can. Two and a half months is about the time. And you're working quite a few hours a day. Wow wow that's you ever just like in the middle of hour number two hundred sixty two you just say like that says you're like no one cares you ever. I'm so detail oriented. I'd be like do you really if it's if it's a matter of just a mix up of words like a minor dyslexia That doesn't affect the story. And you see it after the fact and you're like fuck fuck it and just move on. Yeah if it doesn't change the store and says something. I'll change it but now fuck this. Oh my gosh. that's so interesting now have you done. Didn't i see where you've done. Some voice work for movies or did a movie trailer for a movie called the horror of barnes folly. In fact i was hanging out drinking here with one of the guys in that movie. Like three nights ago i was like a decade ago I was in vinnie torches. Fat the documentary. Oh yeah i played the voice of The evil us government telling you what you have to eat I am the first voice. Unaccredited that you hear in adam. Corollas rode hard The opening scene is he's on a radio station with boomer in slow ninety seven three and so i had to do radio now back to boomer nudged so perfect for this. I can't imagine you doing anything else. If you worked at a bank or something everyone every minute would be like you should be on radio broadcasts. Bill can i can i. Can i get another withdrawal. Just just tell me how much i have my account. Yes one more time. Just telling me over genthod. Probably the coolest job i've ever had. Non voice related. I think. I know. I guess yes. Is it the guacamole host. Ooh i love the guacamole. But when you out there host event for eight hours so you're the host of the world's guacamole versus championship. Guacamole sounds like that would bring out the worst people trademark older okay. What's what's the best job. Not invoice whistler olympics ski jump. Dj what does that even. What does that mean he jumped. So you're at the ski jump ski. Yes if you could see this listeners if you could see it so here's what you do. You've got the next athlete. Open the gate ready to take his chump silent in the stadium the host country and our they. I forget how it goes now. Do the english announcer the french announcer. And then the host country announcer. And if it's in canada bitches. The french announcer in the english announcer. And they say from denmark von ground and then the the thing goes and the gates open and you play on. Oh my gosh. that's a lot of pressure. You play like the beginning of this is while they're jumping this. So you're kind of pumping up the the you play like fire woman from the cult o or c. She sells sanctuary. Because it's got a bannon near manor now known alone and now now and the idea is hit that. That's yeah right as they ride is they hit the jump. So you're just you find a song with a seven second intro. You're essentially giving the soundtrack to this moment. This this moment trying to you're trying to and when it lines up it's got a feel like oh i got a fucking hard on route. Wow you match that up. You knew exactly. Yeah it's so fucking good how fun. Where are you when you're doing this like. Are you in the one of the broadcast booth mike. Gosh that's super cool. And was that like honestly that was canceled for kovin. But is that something that's ongoing. I've worked to olympic games since. Then you know these were also home games essentially so it's a lot easier to get a job in the home games. Yeah but if they fly you out to russia you better have some fucking pedigree pedigree. There's a ski jump. Dj convinced he's still using like vinyl in torino. There's a guy named luke as that's amazing. oh. I think i'd enjoy that. But the best part best part right before the like the day before the games me and my boss this is up in whistler boss. He picked me up at my little condo and Do we drive onto the venue. And i notice in the back of the jeep. He's got cases in cases of beer bottles shoes and he's like we gotta get all the shit in there today because we're not going to be able to get it in with these games. Start mike all right dude. Let's do it so we cover them up as best we can. We sled in You know we got all these all these beers on sled into the to the security gate and we show our badges and he is the venue director. Wow he is or at least the the the the broadcast the venue broadcast director. tv guy. he's in control of everything you see or hear when you are sitting in those stasi. So he's got serious juice. Yeah well some security person. Some gatekeeper decides to check our shed. And they say you can't bring the. Hey you can't bring mission here. And i'm i'm just sitting there going like fog dude. We need this in their royal canadian. Mounted police can walk up and go now. They can bring that in in fact. We're going to escort him. Of course the canadian cop all of our alcohol in which we buried in the snow behind the broadcast booth. Wow and so for for you know fifteen sixteen days always be where to get a beer cooler cool okay so then we're going to jump around a little bit one question. I really wanted to talk with you as well. I guess there's two questions okay one. Have you ever had a moment because with technical stuff like it's always. I always feel bad for the person whose job it is to be the one that like no matter what you have to find a solution and then because it's always like okay we're off air or whatever these maximum work. Whatever it's like that all lies on you so has there ever been a moment in either like a live. Show podcast radio where it's like. Everything just fell to shit. And you were just like. I wanna right into the ocean right now. One of my very first when we started doing live shows. We were in the improv in ontario and It was being recorded as an adam. Corolla podcast but it was just adam at this time. It wasn't maybe i don't know anyway. The point is. I'm i had not gone to engineering school at this time. This was the moment that said dude. You better fucking go get a certification audio engineering. Gonna be able to do this. I nearly killed a sold out on -tario audience with feedback law the worst kind do everyb- all the fucking people are dropping fucking trays drinks. You're spilling all turn out all that shoots going on. I was mortified. And the only thing you can do at that point is put your arm across all the failures and fucking slam them all down. And and then. I had slowly rebuild what the problem. I always feel that. When i was when i was working at the belly up. And it's like something goes wrong or the bass player's power goes out or whatever and then i was like. Oh my gosh zayed's that. I'm feeling right now. You guys are you know for for people is off the charts because having a crowd matt you or having something like that. One sucks is when you do everything right. Nobody knows nobody gives a fuck because it went. It went exactly the way you thought it should be thank you. You're absolutely right. This is something that's the only profession where you only get feedback if you fuck up Literally you know you talk about the crowd being mad at you. But after that after i do gain structure i had fucking dawson. Come on dawson into to the whole fucking sold out. Crowd dawson. Figure this shit out dawson. Well yeah i didn't as has it been a big deal for you personally to like you know i. I'm sure adjusting everything.

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RE-RELEASE: The Pretzel Gang

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RE-RELEASE: The Pretzel Gang

"This is this show called three though. Well it isn't yet but it's going to be very soon. This is the pre three them that everyone listens to read over three them. Pritam pre suffer from pritam unique. Blue call freedom. Three dirty thing guys. My name is scott. my name is lauren. and we're all the host of three of them. Which is this podcast. You're listening to. What are we listening to guys. Well we're listening to a best of freedom which is an episode that we recorded a longtime ago. Because we're taking a little break from recording two episodes until the new year. This is well not the new year. Necessarily but i was misinformed school year. New fiscal animals don't know what year it is and maybe they're going by different calendar and a new year could start tomorrow. That's right. what a new episode of freedom. Donald show up what an will do you think is closest to understand that it's a new year. Squirrels post parents. Why because they can think words but they don't they mean. I think i think dogs really dogs are able to figure out the position of the sun so they understand time. Hold on us. I don't know what stuff that the i mean i think for the most part they just repeat stuff so like what are you yourself or something. You got a parrot to say. What if you got a pair to say. I understand years. Yeah and then there. We go right or like i saw a parent on dateline. Who was like looking like dateline toy planned. He didn't want cracker. You wanted to murder and those stories where like the parrot knows who killed somebody new to throw suspicion on somebody else. This is a twin peaks. Subplot is it. Oh you watch four hundred dollars. Newcomers like many hours. There's there's probably there. I believe there are about forty six hours. Plus a movie including the return. That's included the return gay two episodes per episode and then an hour and a half of deleted scenes from the movie which are very important. Anyway right they look guys. You're listening to three them. Classic or as i like to call it freedom legacy like that out golden years this is how it all started or continued guys and we are happy to present to you this very special so that we did a while ago and episode and let me just say this meaningful episode to me so much goes down on episode establish. This is the episode. You know this is where it all turned. I remember this episode lauren. As being when you officially became a member of the three ca yes. And i felt when i left i was like i think they actually want me to be honest. You were of course filling in for john gabriel's for most of the episodes to. Yeah we called you at the last minute. Could you come down john. Gabor's refused to do the show. And you said okay and it changed my life for the better for certainly did well. This episode is gonna change your life for the better This is one that you guys voted on on our survey so listen to it in remembrance of us yes and if you wanna vote on the episodes guys. Let's say this all together. Here's where you go. At's he has colon four slash. We just say so org slash artwork slash big big big. There you go vote in. Your vote counts unlike in every election in our country. This yeah presidential election right paul. Do you usually say big instead of ono. Did you hear that exudes big. It's been a little six number. Should have capital letters. Abstract numbers capital letters screaming number. But you don't know how capital six okay enjoyed this episode by. Yeah oh wow. It's so fun. People have been sending us re-mixes that was a remixed by at to punk. Who on twitter at punk. O one and that is the rock opera. Remix of the song was great. I love it thanks. Thank you use saw pong buying for the party. They loved it loved it. Don't look at me like that. Poet cares my spirit lowering. Go looking a everyone. Welcome back to three paul thompkin. Landis what was what concord. Was this this at punk. Whoever it is no. Whoever whoever's twitter lloyd into shelvin doesn't follow tracy reardon. Oh i see you're talking a cool snub of off book them but no no. No you don't check in check out. Don't want you to do all right. So we're living on the screen. Is kevin playing that theme from twitter. Account in kevin's logged into his twitter and is taking umbrage that he does not follow her fake account whereas i'm mad that he is logging into twitter. At work my account is deriving. I'm scott aquaman and over here polyp tompkins. Yeah already said you did and my name is okay. You said that she did. Were you learn that. We're you're supposed to be. I'm supposed to be god works. What's your best halloween costume you've ever had is really like you give us a real. James lipton clouding tall under the robot. Yes yes. I know that robot you some of the picture ideas sick. I know they're great. Wasn't either picture to just paul. I don't get it and then she deleted it from her phone. And ideally because this could be humility. The cloud dark cloud delete your cloud cloud. Oh you bitch. By the way when hillary clinton said delete your account. It was not funny. Don't need politicians to be ni. No we don't need the run times that i like it was like oh my god. She got him. It was the funniest it was funny. Of course it's funny politicians to go on saturday night live either. It was a little funny just because he's a twitter maniac. Yeah but it wasn't. It didn't work. He still has you know her like a staffer was like exactly like her. Twitter account is came and she was like is that a thing is what humans do. I know i fucked up. When i did the three emojis me feel about your student debt. You're going to the polls all right anyway. So small wonder was a classiest. Healthy men go to the you never. Oh you got all all. She doesn't even know what it is. Keeping on go to the polls so small wonder was good. What else he got. They mannequin challenge. You know i've never really got into into halloween. I think we've discussed a little bit. That i don't really care about about costs you don't now or you never did your all about golden goblins. You don't care about custer goes on the governor to hormone. Andy yeah but i don't really care about doing the costume thing but i guess it's because you know we get to dress up and be dumb alive. Do you not care now or you never cared when you're a kid. When i was a little kid yes but i was a cat. Basically every year just different variations. I love cats. And i wanted to be a cat. I was ironically a range. Pretty your ironically pal region too old for it. Fifth grade await. You were ironic about it. I was ironically. I was like this is funny for me to be a power tab although when your ten technically not too old people think it's that you just want to be that. That's i've told you the story before. I hope you have and i don't speak to bring it back really because i can't remember. This is a story i've thought about. I thought about this story. It's a moment that happened in my brain. That comes back to me so many times. Those are weird. There was a girl that i went to high school with who was hot grades school and high school with her. She's kind of nerdy girl and dirty the kind where she took off glasses. She was beautiful lakes. How beautiful she was glasses. She was just ugly. She put glasses. Shoot burghley nice little person. And she's a. She say she was kinda about her. She was kind of a girl. And i saw a commercial for some halloween costume like a readymade halloween costume that involve like having an inflatable headpiece. They would make commercials for halloween yet. This was like i remember this. I remember seeing this thing so well and thinking. Oh my god. She's gonna because we were having a costume party at school was like she's going to wear that she's going to wear that. I became convinced hot. She was going to wear like she. The she's the type of person that is going. There would do a thing like this because the costume was or the size of the head because because the was such a dorky thing and notion. Because here's new. Concern for is concerned for her costume was like they just made up characters. They weren't like established characters. They just made up a thing. It was like no kid would ever want. This is what if she does. That was not so much that i would lose any costume. Figure the peanuts gang. Here's mike that's us the principal gang. Hey get out of pretzel gang back at it. We're in so she I i don't think it was that i was like. Oh she will definitely be wearing. That was what if she wears this. Would that be kind of backfires like that. Weird when you start to have empathy when you're a little kid and it was cringe and it was making my heart hurt and then we had the party choose just like dress like gypsy or whatever a gypsy like she like had she was roni person hamas and gypsy party. It was that kind of thing like everyone. So everyone other own homemade. Abc do that anymore. The days gypsies everyone it and if you weren't a hobo gypsy you. We're actually the weirdo everywhere. So since i was a kid every year we would have a jew party. Everybody dressed up like a jew. So did you like her or were you just. You're just empathetic. Yeah yeah it killed me. Like i can still remember. The feeling i called you show up wearing is so that she doesn't feel so she's like the shit kicked out wild. I'm trying to think through my costumes. I definitely was batman. When i was about five and i have the cutest picture of my brother and i. He's superman batman is the tiniest finest the two men needed to save everything. That's a great tagline can. Can i assume who needed to say every batman superman. The two men need to save everything. That's so nice. I was a vampire. And i remember my mom doing like doing makeup for the v the widow's peak. I was i believe i was luke skywalker once and i got a karate outfit and that's how i that's a good one. I was han solo. Where did you wear vast. My mother made me of this. I had a ray gun. My aunt makes costumes for her grandkids and she made him for her kids when they were little. Which you make them for. Her costumes are amazing and she did one for my cousins kid from the game. Four i think it was fortnight tomato head characters other thing anyway she made this he. You know and you wouldn't. He's the youngest person i know. He's late his head. Looks like she made this costume and it looked so good she made the head out of like just object. She form worth mascot of her own design. Wow it was really impressive. It looks it. Looks like a guy is the pringles gun is the guy settled by those guys is a rip off of the pringles guy. I'd get a court. would you wear. What if we said this year. Let's do real costumes. And every all three of us really do a cost him on the day itself. Or whatever and halloween party or something i. It's such a pro. I remember every year when it was. Yeah if it was a mandatory thing and it would depend on the never wanted to go to halloween parties shoe to wear a costume for halloween. I think when. I was in my thirties. Coup up and i we'd go to stu we would go to a at least one every year. It was always like. What are you going to be this year. And then i remember. We would always do it so late that you would end up going to the thrift store like it would be like the thrift store we have costumes and then it's just shit they put together like hey. You're you're a pimp. Yeah so but it was always way way too late right. So and then there's certain players just like. I don't have any enjoyment in doing this anymore. Yeah i don't care. And i don't i don't even like get trick-or-treaters restore address. I understand i just. Don't i would love if they came by our place is i think the kids go to a nicer neighborhood. Well you know where i used to live. We lived over by. Bob hope house. Yeah and in a really nice party to luca lake and people would drive in there and so one year it was. It was really fun. I had a whole bunch of friends over and we just walked around because everyone had such a rich area and i'd like the shittiest place in the right area by the way make everyone it was. It was a condo literally like there's a condo and then an alley and then rich houses right so calm. Don't thank you so but every place would would decorate with like haunted house shit and have mazes and all that stuff so it was really fun as an adult like drinking out on the street and going through love drinking on the street drinking drinking drinking straight straight st. st. I was doing billy on the street. Nice here's the thing though. One of the euro's hans solo. Yes i'll never get this one lady. She's like who are you. Star was just come out. This is seventy seven huge. Hit seventy seven. She says he came out in. May of nineteen seventy seven october. There was a slow burn. Took three months and and there were lines around the block and people couldn't get into it for months at a time. There was still by akhtar. Local movie theaters celebrated one year of showing star wars. Yeah so she said who you're supposed to be an said han solo and she said hansel gretel and i was like no fucking that never forget. I borrowed a friend's cat costume for one of my ear. You're a cat every year outgrown all of my friend color. Every time i growth spurt a great cat this year. My friend gave me her old costume and it was. It was a full suit. Like you get it and then have a head and it's no fun and then this woman said i was a monkey and i felt so i was like six or so. I was like so sad. A monkey cat. So how have pointed ears bitch. How often are adults right when they guess don't think they should be guessing. Should they should be saying. We're united. it should say oh. I love your costume. Tell me about your costume. Here's all they should say. Wow you guys great and give that candy yeah. It may be the recognition. I got very shy at first. Sure know what they are. You could say yeah. oh you're from frozen. Oh you're a guy with a vest in a reagan. Yeah oh you're a future murderer. I would get weirdly shy about no. Yeah he's a costume. As the guy i was like i could talk to my little friends and everything but i didn't like the little that whole my stupid friends. I didn't like exchange girl that trick or treating with its then. I fell in love with her and her name is jane. I was so shy once. I was thinking about this the other day. I don't. I don't know how it's possible that this happened to me. Bring it on. But i know i have. We'll be able to figure it out. I have relatives that. I don't trust my memory on it but i remember it very vividly but i have relatives an had relatives and other states. I still do but also have relatives. I went to arizona wants multiple states. I realize i went to arizona. Wants to my grandmother's house. You go and i go and get by sleigh you go over the river the whole the whole deal. You had to give it as they get there so i go to. I go to the house and my grandmother says oh by the way. There's a boyer age. Who am i getting. I'm i think i'm sick. I'm like grandma off. So i'm six or so. And she goes others a boy next door Who is your age. Why don't you go knock on the door and ask if he wants to play. And i was like shy. And i'm like no. I don't want to do that. And they're like yeah. Yeah my parents are like yeah. That'll be so fun. Probably just get me out of their hair. Whatever i mean doesn't that doesn't that sound terrifying. Yes i remember that. Is you wanna play. That's how i would never do so. All i did was. I went and i remember playing in the rocks in by myself for i was like in the rocks. Yeah because it's arizona and there aren't like grass or anything so it was like at about ninety minutes. I decided that's probably enough to make them think that that i was there for that long. Pretended and then. I went back in the house. And they're like how was it. I was like oh this is fun. Great guy got away with of comedy. Never as far as i know they never like asked later about the. Oh what did you think of my grandson. That was just like. I got away with the story of when i was like tagging along with my brother and his friends and then they kind of ditched me and i started picking flowers from this person's yard l. around this tree and i was making a little bouquet from my mom and then this man one stop flower was screaming. I mean you understand. Now that you're i was only like six or seven old enough to know. They ran home and threw them in the gutter. On the way back in the underground you know really. Because i was so upset and embarrassed and then i just didn't give them all used to when i was in high school okay. I lived across the street from my high school. Right weird but i still. I still had to the dreamy could span. Everyone but i was on. The i was on the one end. How are you spying your window after school and like see reverend goes they talk to run like bela for home. I didn't have kind of. I still had to go down the streets. I didn't have that kind of. I lived across the street so but the problem is i lived on one end and my first class was when i was a senior was totally far end. You know so. I still. I would be so late every day. That i would drive my car to as close as i could get which was part of the suburbs park. The car at harvard yard of course colleges yon so hard sorry guys. I'm tired too. So i would park the car as close as i could get to the school. You wouldn't make a sound. I was quiet. Janis out of the so. I would park the car as close as i could get to the high school and these guys are like snap chatting all ads chatting. Remember that i do remember that coming back do so but the thing was my mom would still make a lunch for me. When i was a senior god and here on lunch give him a break. Go home but that's the thing is i would go much. But she was just looking. She'd make listen. she makes me back. She'd make me a bag lunch home. Which would have a sandwich chips and an apple in it. And i would be so late. I would never eat breakfast. So i would as. I'm driving very hurriedly to as close as i could get to the school that i live across the street from i would eat the sandwich and the chips for breakfast for breakfast would never eat the apple. Because i didn't want to eat the apple spiced it so i would instead they alarm inside i would instead that you crumple up knowledge. The apple garden. Where'd you yawning. Second he's trying to turn it on for you really focused on. You should be glad all my interrupting story me better. That's a heart. He wants a center because it means they're paying attention. Silent yawn trump the apple bag around the apple. Right and i would leave it. I was there just rotten your car. No i wouldn't even in the car. Because i wouldn't want him to collect so i would put it on the ground next to my car that's disgusting and on the stories you tell or not and you're not a disgusting pig so love going home in the middle of the day because it would seem like a nice reset. Yes i would. Well that's the thing is take the apple back. Why don't you just eat the apple that your mother. no. I know. But i'm talking about like young kids. I'm talking about young sheldon and that's what talk about young show you can we. Finally i was genius in a little boat. I grew up to forty six episodes here and we haven't talked about young sheldon forty six. Yes the listener doesn't know we've cut it of every episode. That's so far as wearing up show. Can i just say that the guy who owned the house now that would park in front of every day got so pissed and like four months into confronted me. He's like you're leaving and apple single day five days. Go dude is my apple. So you're driving where you're parking at the school now. I'm parking in the suburbs across the street from the school. The school know. I would let kids park on the school. Ground zero where you could just talking lot is on. My side is where my house. It's all the way over there. I need to get as close as first class. Demento if i was your parent i would have gone out you fucking you. Aren't i bury wasteful. Gas wasting bitch apple. Get up five minutes earlier ways ways. I'm not gonna put an apple in your lunch ever again because you're never going to eat it and guess what you're going to walk to school and you're gonna be late when you get up late you've never been laid anywhere never know but it is annoying that you would drive one inch on the map. There was dragging never been that lay. Whereas i'm always literally person i know what i do. Is i dick around into the last possible minute late and it's crazy because they'll be doing nothing and i'm going okay now. I have to rush stupid. I'm later to laurie. Yourself yourself offense to you that he was I am later to things that are in my neighborhood than i. An further away the old principle of any time my own principal anytime you go to a restaurant attended anytime you go to a restaurant and there's no one in it you get worse service than when they're like who cares because they because they're fucking around in the kitchen. They're just drugs. Yeah i've seen sweet bitter. I went to a restaurant recently. Where i think i had a new survey every five seconds every time i want to would bring someone over or to be a different person and i'm going on my break. Yes i could but Jimmy's jewish saying next time. We look at that guy. That's on jimmy. it's gonna be a different for a truly. So why are you here. It was just who are you. I saw an episode may soup and lentils i saw an episode of cheaters. You know that show cheaters. So i saw an episode is the greatest episode. I've ever seen joey greco. Here's the thing. So i this guy comes out who has never been on cheaters before. Yes so he comes out in a tux. Welcome to a very special episode of cheaters. And it's not. Joey greco they would like set them up like the situation and then they well. I don't know there was fake as much as they would follow him around with a camera. But yeah you're right. I do believe that it was revealed later. Would that some of it was fake so they would try to catch them young traveling so this guy. He's the executive producer. I think of cheaters comes out and he introduces a welcome to a special episode of cheaters. Never seen him before he's exceed. Oh he's like we've been on the air three years or something like this. And now here's your host. Joey greco this is his last episode and then joey greco comes out in air and introduces and introduces. You know how joey greco would come out and it would be a blue background that they would put like the houston or dallas skyline. By you go well. This person is about to do something in something but then he had been fired by then so the person who went out on the actual cheater run was a third person who ended up being the new host. Somebody on a podcast with saying that they were working on a tv show where they were like essentially a reporter but it was like sort of a news and it wasn't the news but it was a version of it and they us the first news program got to call itself the new they left show to go do different job and so they had a big sendoff for her on the show but the show it only been on for a couple of weeks and she was like no one knows. How are they doing the send off. And then the show got cancelled like right after. So you'd one send off a few days before the big goodbye you soon and were cancelled so none of us will be here. Can you imagine. I was watching. Fossey verdon the other day. And i was and at one point. This is a minor minor. Spoiler gwen verdon is in a show that canceled after the first performance. Then i cannot imagine that feeling being so show where like they like put. They work on it for months. They put up. It's by and they were like we got. We got wind that the reviews were going to be really bad and ticket. Sales were soft and so cancelled after one performance. Hurt i cannot imagine. I mean i guess. Tv show that happens. Like wonderful as i think on once and then it was cancelled. Even though they'd film thirteen. I think they only aired like one or two i i watched it. Yeah unreal on dvd. No i watched as he watch. I will say. I saw the tv. Show emily emily's reasons. Why not which only aired once. And i saw the one that aired. And it's really makes me mad. That i saw come my feeling about that is just air them all. You made them all. Show stare them low canceling a show and not finishing or at least plays the ones you already made. The point of all that money was spent. You're just gonna show a rerun of something people like that people want more but sure what was wonder falls was really great. Tell about it. Because i'm looking at the paragraph in question. Should i tell her about. It cancelled after the fourth episode. Oh yep he works in a niagara falls gift shop jay. The reluctance conversations various so great last monkey. How do you say vernice. She was on Hannibal because this brian yeah. It was very imaginative and whimsical and funny pace. Who i did the seth meyers show with. He was the main cast said he was very nervous. Oh daisy why are you talking. Like eddie was news in hong catch. Fire was a great show guardians of the galaxy as ronan the accuser lee pace very nervous. He seth meyers. He played in immortal. L. lord of the rings. And he's very nervous. Seth meyers brady pace. You went to juilliard these great leap as great well. It just reminded me of like if you're not a person if you're just an actor whose acting in front of cameras all the time like how that would be very nerve wracking nerve wracking anyway. It's nerve racking enough for us of like who are out in front of crowds. But for him. It's just or a person like that is just a film actor. Doing those shows like it shouldn't be that hard they don't make them easy is know they don't do this. Grin i think his middle again picture right above it. I think they should renting like a motherfucker. Make them more f- names. i think. I like when jimmy fallon plays a game with somebody like to see people. Loosen up a little bit. Yeah i like to see people stretching. Before i like that would be. That's the show. April stretching. I think More being a leotard commerce looser. People shouldn't be expected to be like this. This should be show. this would be a show. I tell you something. I feel like i always do very badly on talk. Shows not good panel. And what happens is i think that i think a lot of times. The audience like the people who are who are producing the show. Know who i am but the audience has no idea right. So it's a weird. I'm in this weird twilight place where you talking about. It'll be funny but it's like. I don't think it's going to be funny to them basis. Why would they be interested in a baby picture. You've seen you. you're i feel like i always bomb. It's always awkward. But i wanna get good. I'm like i you would be good. I i feel. I get too nervous. I can see a version of my life where i eventually become fine hat them like i to be like amy sedaris was just goes out and does whatever she wants but people already know that and expect that adds the thing. I would prefer to like what i like to do. At jimmy pardo's podcastone is go out and do a bit. Like steve martin to do on our knows who i am so i can't do that stuff so when you when an monitor talk show you gotta explain who you are. Yeah and that's no fun. This is very relatable very relatable to everyone substitute talk. Show for everything. I say is meant to be relatable paces sexual orientation being able to topic of discussion when in two thousand twelve. He was identified as gay by ian mckellen. that's alone was described the presence of blunder and an accident on his part is one by them. Yeah ian mckellen. He wondering if you're an interview with the new york times in two thousand eighteen just just lea grinner pace. Very nervous justified. His gay could under that is a year later later. We have to take a break. Six years luder when it comes to finding the right protein for your muscle growth and recovery goals. Are you like me where you don't even know what that sentence means look. The options can be dizzying. can't they. I'm giving dizzy just talking about it right now. I need to lie down. In fact i will very soon well. Protein is the essential building block for a healthier. 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You wish you were your dog being enslaved essentially we've we had done this path viewed very differently. Do you have a dardel. Your dogs a slave. My slave uses dogs. You nervous favorite dog. You have money. You mean i will say okay. We have two dogs now and georgia. The one that we got i spent watch. We're going watch. Kevin send an email email of working screen said a work email george listening to these idiots talk and talk again. I hate it here. So georgia georgia. Kula spent a lot of time with her because she would take her to work every day. When she was doing gillian she was in the office. And so. I never really saw georgia all that much and now georgia's in the cradle in the suv. Now georgia it has come around on me so hard to where she like in the morning. She can't do anything unless she comes over. And gives me kisses. And i so it's like if i'm when she gets up if i'm upstairs in the kitchen. She has to come running over to me and gets up on her hind legs. And i'm like okay honey. I give her a little kiss and then she'd meant to lease like fine but she got up before her. Yeah sometimes my diet. My dog zoe. Doug sleep in your bed if my dog is still asleep. Try to go back to sleep. I'm like okay. Sleep in my dog sleeps in the bed. But then when i get up she'll get out but she if she gets up before i get up. I mean she's going to piss or shit in guess. Well that's why within a hear her feet on the ground. That's why we our that's why we create our dogs. Yeah she's normally normally. If i hear it's like for whatever reason so's rocky rocky. We slept in the bed with a lot. And it's just constant coming out of the covers going back into the covers. I just would never get a good night. Sleep nocturnal animals. Are they really up. I got my cat anti doctrinal. Meaning they sleep at night. They come alive at night and they live in a tree dog. Expert man dogma expert now dogma man who your dogma over my karma the two great taste ran over my dog shoot up one makes more sense. Was it like a bumper stickers. I was like back in the eighties. It was like everyone was talking about karma away as what was a way of making fun of you know how like everything in the eighties was making fun of anyone. Who had any sort of spirituality. Exactly you know like You're talking about karma will your car over my dogma if anyone even tried to think about their fellow man. They were ridiculing ridicule or or not acting like remember. I love that number. Alan alda being sensitive thing to like. Make fun of like alan alda. Real men don't eat quiche. Come on. I didn't even know a quiche was before either hearing that it was terrible because it's very vicious very feminine food super that's pronounced squish squish based upon the sound of when i drop it on the floor i suppose it does mike wish all squares a drop going around out. This guy's everybody's gonna go see the man. That's not going wrote that rope that we were playing jump rope. Oh three boys have gone on a deep boys off the rails deepened. This is our last episode. That people are going to hear pumping them want more. Okay yes sure we pump it up or make them more what to do with this last one. This is the last one of the free ones. Yeah okay we want a better outlet. Ma read mother want to you know what. I'm scared to be jim morrison. Are you scared of other lizard. Kenya should be scary. Is this gecko. Yes jim morrison. Was the original geico geico. I suppose are getting crazier and crazier. They're just they have to do with your here's commercials now stop it. First of all commercials are good if you wanna see local. La improv actors. Who improv something. Relatively minor league funny in and audition and they're made they're made to replicate it onset because it was slightly different than a non funny person and then here's commercials though these days which is just like they throw with a silly situation there of like. Oh man i wanted to get rid of my car and then like you know. A giant crane picks it up and throws it across the street right and they're and then it's like boy. You don't wanna be in this situation. do you. well another situation. You don't want to be totally unrelated thing exactly. Does anyone. i'm talking to you do. And here's the thing. I produce one of those commercials. And i think this is what i think. Commercials should just be like this geico insurance and then it goes with better than coke. They're like how about mcdonald's this show that this just new commercials and each one just shows you the thing. They're all three seconds long and watch hundred of them in between every it's the same person at all of them now. There's no actor. It's just the logo with voice. Read says do this mcdonalds mcdonalds. Have that drink coke. Drink coke for. Dr larry every weird drink. How about this. Hey what about the co-insurance. We had a mutual friend. Paul who was so upset at mcdonalds. Who was like. What isn't mcdonald's. Donate their all their advertising charity for one day because everyone knows what mcdonald's is and i'm like that's not how advertising we all know what mcdonald's is needed like put in our brains of like. Oh yeah that does sound good. I'm going to go get it like but his point was that commercials are only there to tell you about what a product is entirely. How about that you take the money you know up in my chest you take them ninety my mouth commercial one day which won't stop anyone from wanting it and then you donate that money. That's the i think his. I don't think he was trying to say because he said no no one forget about he did say that though. He's explicitly said okay. Fuck that neil. yes it was. you'll campbell. I wish i guess him. You'll per per from our friend friend. Could you friends. I couldn't hear in between other the drum sounds. Did we take a break. No yeah we already did. We know all right. Let's take a break. Hey listen did you ever see. I know this is coming out of nowhere guys off. What did you ever see the video for. She's gone by hall and oates. I i was you bring something like that. She's go. oh no the devil to. What's in the video. paul Them sitting on a weird set the second one down. Yeah so they're sitting on like a tv says the very early days of videos look like a weird murder shack. Now the middle of nowhere and screen. Behind daryl hall back. Looks like a weird. Can't take poop his tooth poof. Okay and they're they're all. Jerry is not sustainable. The sleeveless shirts. This is what passed for fashion with a back in the seven cars for long. That show stephen merchant. I don't know l. o. lady was it. I was one of no starring. Christine woods is supposed to teach us how the tap dance. Yes you guys. They instagram ads. The tap line. You should sign up for this. I was kidding. It was a strapped to a dummy. No tap on sunday on things you snap onto onto your sneakers and it has taps on the souls and you do a workout while tap. It seemed like it was an exercise. Video is like exercise. You learn how to tap and it was like a billy blanks style video or guys like come on make. Those sounds come on here. We go doing wings and stuff like few bisky. It looks good. Yes very sloppy video. Everyone should watch the daryl hall and john. she's gone. Village is a great song so just listened to the audio video. They look insanely bored to be their slowness hard to tell if this is a choice or if they're really mad that they had to make this video and every time they get to the line. I'd pay the devil to replacer a guy walks by a classic devil costume and daryl hall literally here. We go and he throws up. Some fake money laziest video ever seen in my life. it's really crazy. Shot in approximately. How long does this song. Yeah exactly jacket on to play the guitar for so we do another. Take this we got it. I mean i will say that they look who or his yonkers knowing he's sick. 'cause daryl hall kinda looks like bowie's. He's got a bowie his hairstyle. He's kind of got a good little gland. now we're platform. I just put it together for fun. This has nothing to do with all the all videos up until about nineteen eighty-two were shot at like public access stacey stations technology. They're all like this where it's like. you know. Green screen technology. They're all as bad as this until michael jackson. The lord in the face of the michael jackson video vanguard award. Why do you bring him up all the time to sit the dial up days. It's jackson cutest thing where this family these. These sons got their dad surprise. Tickets to see jackson's always loved her his whole life and he was like so excited so it's just blake and he's standing the they get him back stage after show. He's he's he's talking to his his family. I think about what a thrill it was. Just see the concert. He's like the biggest thrill for me was just when she came out on there on that stage and and and i was like i'm in the room with janet jackson. It was just incredible and she sees my same age so we grew up alongside her while. She's like she's like blah kind of like almost resting her chain on his shoulder like trying to and he doesn't notice her for the longest time and then he finally puts her hands on sit there and she's like thank you so he won't even look at it because he's so happy i'm talking about. The jesse. Jackson never massey's tele right to her face. I love ya baby. I love you talking about alleged. Shut up your bitch news. And i kept on news that it was going to be a bad's gonna happen. This man wanted to go to the concert. More than and all at the end they like and then he got to meet her says. Yeah that would have been great human interest story shit pants. He's very nervous. Shit his pants they call him the soil old fan in mckelway told everyone should is a blunder. That mad shit had every movie with secret. Just look lord of the rings packers. Has one black tony. Just the gaffer. Oh by the way bang bang we are gaffer once in the middle of a show you to do this thing you mocking ian mckellen for doing yes. He's gay now. Once in the middle of the show. I was in the middle of an interview and suddenly from right behind me. Because there's a fake wall right by me here. So and he fell asleep in the middle of a taping of the show and was snoring. So fucking and i was like the reviews are in red. I was working on something in the wardrobe man fell asleep and i took a picture on was really funny but then he did get fired later. Multiple multiple flotilla sleeps. But like i thought it was funny. But i guess people really would not think that if they were in charge. I didn't send it to them up until they look guys. It's time for well. Yeah it's time for three or do we have one i do. Did we pick one sure. Okay great yeah like this game categories one player added gory and the other players take turns naming items that belong in that group. The category is melissa scott. 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Mason and Ireland

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland

"That's also. Draw? Oh, then it should have been more. Wasn't available at the beginning of the season. Yeah, they've gone through is gone. Let me just set tree traded with zoo pack. Dell's if you're just tuning in. This is our Mason Ireland five minutes before the trade deadline spectacular. I'm here. John is in Boston, Freddie, princes here and Brian cabinet skiing here and the breaking news in who knows something could come down with Anthony Davis and any moment, but bigger than that bigger than that, we have acquired Mike Muskoka who's actually a pretty good shooter. But they do it at the expense of visa zoo botch. John Letcher action. Well, here's the thing. That is almost freakish. I can't believe this. So the clippers and the Lakers. We'll both be in this hotel, the one I'm in tonight. Oh, really zoo can walk across the hall. Yeah. The clippers play the Celtics this we I'm at a hotel in Boston Celtics tonight. And we're spending the night, and then we fly tomorrow to Philadelphia zoo will just walk across the hall and join his team, I hear they're going to release Beasley. So that's the weird kind of freakish thing about this trade is that all these teams going to be together tonight now as for the trade itself, I think what you need to look at and Brian will be curious. If you agree with me is not the fact that they traded for Mike Muskoka who I think will help as a stretch five he can shoot just like Reggie bullet can shoot. So they've improved their shooting. But it's the fact that it opens up another rosters in the question is what are they gonna do with that just mellow loss ability. What? Well, I mean, I think he is on the list. He's got to be on the list, and you see wo Jin. Ramona's tweeted out the same thing. He's not the first choice. They want somebody who's been playing. They want somebody quite frankly, probably a little bit better than Melo. But you know, the other thing is to John where the Lakers gonna be on the list of the the destinations where the really prime guys when I go west Matthews, Wayne Ellington is a guy. Really good. And some of those guys will be able to pick their spots a little more. Are they gonna pick the Lakers? What if they could go to the warriors? I, you know, the east all the Eastern Conference teams that's a freak arms race going on over there. So I just wonder which are going to want to come to Lakers as opposed to those other ones Carmelo will be out there and available for the Lakers. If they want him, I don't think he's their first choice. No, he's not their first choice. In fact, Dave mcmenamin has just tweeted camello Anthony as a possible addition for the Lakers, but not an inevitable. Yeah. Not an inevitability teams tells ESPN Lakers will monitor the bio market, and we'll also consider a piece that could fortified their depth that point guard or center to positions they've been hit with injuries this season. So it's not a done deal that mellows that guy. It sounds like they've got interest in adding either front court or point guard. But it's not out of the question at this point. What's interesting, John is that the Lakers are doing? Now, what everybody kind of thought they should've done back in the summer when they were putting this together they seem to be adding the shooter's that they failed the ad during the summer. I agree with your take one hundred percent. I think they are now admitting that not adding any shooters at all probably didn't work, and so they're gonna give LeBron some options. Also, Steve Jove Arden. Who is an excellent reporter Cleveland has just tweeted that Rich Paul Anthony Davis and LeBron James agent has told him Anthony Davis will not be traded today. So that means Anthony Davis goes to the summer. Yup. As many of us suspected and Boston becomes the front runner to get him. If the Celtics don't care whether or not he signs long-term, and it appears that they don't care. So if I think I'm curious if you guys agree, I think if they put Jason Tatum in the deal that Anthony Davis to Boston now becomes the likely destination. John what happens though, if kyri Irving throws a wrench in this in this machine and suddenly is gone take. Tatum. Can't be a deal. He has to stay at that point. Yeah. Great question. And also, Freddie if if that happens, Kyrie Irving leaves and goes to the Knicks which has been a big rumor if that happens the Lakers, then don't have to offer the whole farm like they've been doing that the price for Anthony Davis would then if the Celtics get out. Yeah. The price for Anthony Davis. I would think goes way down and instead of having to offer six players in four first round picks, or whatever the speculation is the Lakers can do a much more reasonable offer as a Laker fan guys. I gotta tell you. I'm relieved that that they didn't do this godfather deal that all of these guys didn't go part of me one part of me wanted Anthony Davis. But now, I think makes your theory is and what the words in your mouth, but your theory is that Rich Paul will delivery, Anthony Davis to the Lakers, somehow somehow that I do believe that I don't believe. So now Paul is gonna leave LeBron James out to dry in in L A. With no help a second that emotion. So now if you're right and Anthony Davis gets to the Lakers. Eventually, maybe we keep Ingram or Kuzina. Maybe we keep Lonzo or heart. The or if they wait till twenty twenty they they keep all, right? But. Wait till twenty twenty John. I mean, they they it'll be age it'll be LeBron's age thirty seven seas. And plus I wrote about this for the lettuce week the have to build a team like you can't you can't dangle these players out every single time. There's a there's a star that might be on the market. You can't continue working with guys on one year contracts, because you know, you you you need the cap space for whatever free agent is coming at some point, especially now as John says are as Steve says you have year two of four with LeBron is just getting older you have to build a team this summer is it they going into next fall. They need a team, and they need a real one, John. Lemme lemme play something because this is from the jump. I think it was yesterday. Rachel nichols. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles trade deadline has now officially passed. But you always have to be prepared things have to go through the league office. So we don't necessarily know everything right off the. Bat if something happened very late in the game. We won't know about it for a couple of minutes. Here is Rachel Nichols with Brian Windhorst from the jump yesterday. Do you think that they were upset enough? I have no knowledge. I'm just throwing out a question that they were upset enough with what they have made clear they felt like was tampering and they felt like they were going into reach in after their player and calls all this destruction in the middle of the season when they thought they had at least two this summertime. Do you think that they never intended to really engage with the Lakers that much what kept putting out publicly all these trade offers? So that we saw last night it would ruin their team chemistry at least temporarily disrupt all their young guys make things miserable for this team. Is that possible? It's possible. It's what happened. I know that the pelicans to put this up. Hey, man, you let's go. Now, the pelicans had a method to their madness in the way this went. So the suggestion there is that they were never going to trade Anthony Davis to the Lakers, but they did conduct some sort of public trade negotiation conceivably to ruin the Lakers chemistry at least for a time. And it appears from watching them against Indiana, the other that it absolutely worked. They did torpedo a game for the Lakers. I I don't know. Yeah. Go ahead. John. Maybe. But if the Lakers allow their team chemistry will be ruined that's on the Lakers. The they're all those guys are still here and they're being paid to play. And if if trade rumors ruin your chemistry. It's what's the old Eleanor Roosevelt line? Steve, no, one can offend you without your consent. Eleanor. Yeah. Think so in in today's day that statement doesn't ring true. There was no Twitter back then. So it's humiliation is on a different is just on a different scale these days and a lot of these kids simply weren't raised in the same culture as the generation before. And the skin isn't as thick social media doesn't affect a certain generation because we go. That's really silly and dumb that you would write that. But right on whereas younger generation that's their truth. That's their reality. Don't forget you're talking about a generation that confuses hashtags with activism, a hashtag puts them in the same ballpark as Martin Luther King or Gandhi. And there you're talking about people who were willing to sacrifice for their cause this generation of sacrifice anything a hashtag. So that's their truth. That's their reality. And is ridiculous as it may seem to us, and as on realistic is it may seem to us perception is reality. And that's their perception for sure. Yeah. I'm trying to put myself in my twenty two year old head a handsome head by. Yeah. She very very soon. You're twenty two year old head is still inside your head is still somewhere there. But if I was working in radio, and if my contract was coming do, and they had indicated that they didn't want to keep me or weren't happy with me or were interested in me moving on. It would have wrecked a fair number of shows for me. I mean, it it would've messed when you would question loyalty as young people do question. Loyalty not. It's just business when you're young you don't have experience in business. So everything's personal. And it takes veterans and mentors experience to win. You figure out? Oh, yeah. It's not show feelings show business. This is how things work, but it takes time. I was prepared for it. And I still took things personally. And I had my father charmed a lot of people who looked out for me who prepared me who gave me all their, wisdom and knowledge, but. Without the experience. It's just words. And then in retrospect, you go. Oh, yeah. I should listen to Ron or I should listen to Alan her when he said this. He was right. Like, that's how we learn and get a smart as we all we hope speaking. Yeah. I I mean, I think there's there's no question. We talk about how this generation is different. They wanna know why? It's a loop is a players coach it makes it takes away some of that. They're they're all they're all in with me. And I know John you're going to say, yeah. But just play your way onto next year's roster. But it doesn't mean that this hasn't left a Mark in on the psyches of John. All still on the block. It's just now they're on the block in the summertime as opposed to now. Here's the irony of the story. Mason just told. There was a time in his career where the the station that we were on completely gave up on him. And basically put him at night to get rid of him. They wanted him to quit to get rid of his contract no-no and Mesa. They would not let me quit that was the deal. They wouldn't let me quit. Rebut? Remember, they basically did all the things you've just suggested they said they weren't interested in new any longer. They put you at night, which was the graveyard guard shift. Right. And that believe it or not was the beginning of Mason in Ireland. Okay. But wait put me in there with you. But hold on hold on. That's I'm saying could happen with these absolute look it can hap-. Yes, definite. But but to put a finer point on what you're talking about in terms of my career. They banished me to the nights. I wanted to be released. So I could go back to Toledo. God. Thank God that didn't work. So I could go back to Toledo. And when I finished out my deal, you may or may not remember this. I left for six months. I remember my boss chasing me around the Christmas party trying to get me to sign a contract. And I was like screw you. You banish me tonight's it wasn't until six months later that they came to me and said, all right? We we have a deal for you. We want you to do mornings that I actually said, yes. 'cause my. Feelings were hurt and I was a younger, and I was sensitive, and I still argue with eggs sometimes on Twitter. I mean, I we all find ourselves doing that from personalities react to compliments and criticisms different. And I think it's fair to expect the players that have been involved in these conversations it could go either way. I mean, there could be a hangover you're around the team lot, John. Do you anticipate that tonight as they get ready to play in Boston that this is that there's going to be a hangover from all this stuff? If they win this game tonight, it'll be their most impressive win of the year. Even more impressive than when they won echoed and state on Christmas. The the Celtics won thirteen of fourteen home games since the end of December. They've lost once at home. And it was to the warriors. They are playing great. They're playing everybody tonight kyri who sat out last game plan, Marcus smart who sat out last game plan. So this would be a monster hill for them to climb. But I think by the end of this road trip. We're going to have the answer to your question are these guys so affected by these trade rumors that they have checked out? I think there's a win here left on this trip. Even though they gotta play Boston, Philadelphia and Atlanta and before you say, oh, they'll beat Atlanta win is Atlanta. They beat Atlanta by just one point, right? When Atlanta and the Lakers played at Staples Center. So if they get swept on this trip, if they get blown out like they didn't Indiana. Maybe I'll come around to your side. But I think these. Guys should be able to get past it and play. All right, John. Thank you very much for joining us on our first ever Mason. Ireland five minutes before the trade deadline spectacular. It was fifteen of the greatest minutes I've ever spent on the air anywhere. All right, boys. Have a good show. Thanks. There's John Ireland from Boston. I hope j comes back from the break with nightshift just 'cause I wanna talk about your nightshift experience. Suites. On the night shun, then I. Probably just play back. All right now. That's good. Wins. All right. Coming back next continued reaction, and we'll also see by the way, if in fact, any deals do trickle in after the deadline. Keep you posted the best day of the year for fax machines. On the facts, we late news lay news, right? No. No rewind version. Hawks. Former Celtics traffic Jabari bird. All right. We'll pick him from Shams the latest Kinney shoot. We're looking for shooters may. Freddie, fear. Brian candidates skis here, ESPN Elec. Bass afraid into you know, that was a true. Ireland loves to twist my personal narrative two engine all twists. No. I was deliberate. You not delivered. Twist compulsive twist because I was just essential vision. I went completely south when I knew that my employer had given up on me, and I completely gave up on them. Now, I'm not saying that's what's going to happen with the guys that that were rumored to be part of the trade. Whether it be Lonzo or Josh harder or Kyle Kuzma or Brandon Ingram. But I'm saying that there could very well be a hangover. I really from naive to think that there won't be unless you have a reason to say there won't be when I worked at WWE. There were a lot of people. They're the same age as this team now and people much much older who had been in the game, awhile insecurities exist. Right. I love John Ireland. He is one of the most secure individuals that I know at this station like he doesn't care if you compliment him or if you criticize him he takes them both the same. But that's a rare breed, man. Like that really think that's that's the projection a projection projection, and he's been in the business long enough to know what he should put out there. But these kids aren't season there's a famous story about John when he heard great Jon Allen as long as it's going to continue to work with you. Oh, yeah. 'cause the to Luca lake blog fest, whatever the hell it was wrote something about John Ireland and his play by play. And I mean, this was the most insignificant outlet in the history of the world, it really was it was somebody's blog who happen to write from to Lucas. Lake and I remember. Yeah. It's great town. Right. Yeah. It's lovely and over buffet. Play by play. And then his talk show, and Bob, and so John calls me up and says, okay, I just want to check my thinking here I'm going to send this guy sent me the link. He said I'm going to send this guy. This Email tell me if I should send it and he reads like this scathing, how dare you kind of Email to the blogger into Luca lake, and I said, John, John, you're John Ireland. You don't need to respond to bloggers, but it's anybody can get caught up emotionally obscenely criticism. Specially if you're harder on yourself and expect more from yourself than whatever fan base surrounds, right, right? Like the expectations. I set for myself were much higher than what any critic or any agent or any manager ever had for me and same with anybody else who was remotely successful. But I promise you this. If that happened to John Ireland today because of that for endeared him. Store. Yeah. He would never have to worry about that. This is the first time these kids are going through this. Right. So their reaction is very likely going to be equal or greater than John. Let me ask you this. Because I think this is also the other issue. So if you you go out for an audition you for role producers love, you they're happy to have you like intellectually, you know, that, you know, if if Leo walks through the door, Leo who to Capri McCaffrey, they're probably they're probably got me one. They're they're probably gonna take the Capri. I you love me. So let me give you a real experience. But like, but you still wanna know that they want you to be there. Like, it's not that the idea like these these young guys understand like the they will all. I hate calling. Hey, coach. Ousters listen disrespectful term when you're in a new pool. And it's a new thing regardless of your age your kid, you're a baby actually pointing out that we're old enough to call them. Fathered one I didn't. But like, so like, you know in the back of your head like there's they're probably people that they were head of me. Even like, you know, even though they love you still wanna know that they want you there. Right. Yeah. You still wanna know that you're producers directors they want you to be there. And I think if you're these young guys now because it's not just. Anthony davis. It's every start the Lakers, and rob Lincoln. Magic Johnson officially are at the they are the bad boyfriend. Meaning, you know, the one where the guys walking down the street and overseas the girl it's like he like they are that guy with every single star. That's going to be put on the market. It's going to be Bradley Beal, it's going to be you know, someone else it's put on a trade. And so they these guys sit there, and they know they can say whatever they want about us. But as soon as somebody even slightly more attractive comes along. They're all gonna be staring him. That's got to be a hard way to go to work. I agree. One hundred percent with what you're saying. I think every single one of them is feeling that at some level. It happened to me on a movie called force majeure. I don't remember what it ended up being called. It was Vince Vaughn Joaquin Phoenix. And Billy critic it was called force majeure. I saw it. Well, I I heard that title. I heard that change the time. Yeah. So. So and I never saw because I was mad, but I'll dishes and to this day. It's the best audition that I ever gave him my life. Yep. And all of a sudden Joaquin Phoenix wanted the role and walking feeders. Don't have to issue. Right. And he got the role and it wrecked. Like, it broke me, man. 'cause I was like all my God. Because everyone in that room was like you got the job. Right. And then the director called me and made it better based on that philosophy. You were thrown out there by saying look man, we loved what you did. Yeah. You killed that this was your role and the mix it, but that's walking Phoenix. Sure. And I had already lost another role to him. I don't remember him in the movies on. When I was walking now met like a lot of people freak out on this stuff. Green goblin, exactly. A lot of people a lot of people trip out on this stuff of fame can make you and it makes these players it can really mess you up because it builds you up humbles you, and then how you turn out is based on your reaction to that humility that you're now just having to face. But no one is bigger than the game. Like, I never was delusional enough to be like, I'm the next Brando. Sometimes it's just because you're pretty yeah. Like, it's just the way it goes man is still on this. So when I lost roles to somebody who I would pay money to go. See I ain't that mad. Madam bit role for you, man. I wouldn't even take an moment. I was so upset, and that's why I'm saying a lot of these young players like you saw how much space they put between themselves and LeBron. That's that's a real moment and people can define it any way they want. But they're still a separation there at the end of the day. And sometimes this moment of humility of all I'm not bigger than anything. I can be traded. I can be replaced. I can be moved at any time. This is sort of that first moment for a lot of these guys, and it will either make them right break them. But it certainly shape them either way some of them will be strong enough some of them won't. And I think we can already kinda see who will be okay. And who won't all right coming out if you're just tuning in the Lakers did make one minor acquisition today? They added Mike Moscow from the clippers. He had come over in the Tobias Harris deal from Philly. They get they send out visa zoo botch, who is a fan favourite along with Michael Beasley. The only upside of trading a zoo bots is I don't know how to say his name correctly and have no say. You can say zoo bots zoo bots, so he is gone. And he's he's a fan. People loves by those. Masala who was a clipper for about seventeen hours? I don't think ever played for them. Still the twenty fourth best clipper statistically of all time nights. Many smell, right? You know what I mean? Like once you're there, even like two three days you start to smell Mon points out that today is today's Lakers. Clippers trade is the first between the two teams since nineteen eighty three norm. Nixon Eddie Jordan, an eighty six second round pick the became Jeff Hornacek. Went from the Lakers to the clippers for Byron Scott's spend, Nater swint, Spence Wade or swim. And and a pack which became Bruce dollar imple-. The great Bruce dollar impo. It was so the Lakers and the clippers make a deal, which is interesting. All right. Come back next. Lonzo is on Instagram reacting to everything that has happened in the last few days in the last few weeks. That's coming up next for you. Mason Ireland, Freddie, prints juniors here along with Brian Cashman Eski. It is trade deadline day. I think we've seen everything that we're going to see. See I'm calling it Shams did report late Greg Monroe. Has been traded has been from Toronto to Brooklyn. He will he will be immediately released. So there you go off your spot. Mason Ireland ESPN life. We ain't we ain't going nowhere. We ain't. I'm not gonna bust you for the question you just asked. But that question made me sad. Is that right? Did it? Yeah. Yeah. It's why I've learned to keep my mouth shut. Yeah. Me too. I mean, not learn to make that question was. So is that right? You didn't know who that was. I did not own my good not. I'll start my hand. Ryan, did you know who that was wasn't paying very close attention? But the chances are no that was Lonzo ball's Instagram story playing Diddy. Yeah. Playing ditty playing Sean combs now. I would I would not have picked do not. I don't know. What's going on? Is he singing rewind to know? He is playing that song on his Instagram. We ain't going nowhere to end of the season. We ain't it's Nolan's. Come on even on the. Yeah, he's not even even suited up. A lot of these guys aren't going to be utterly going on the trip. Yeah. Hey, tried to call your Shiloh to Phoenix. This is this is this is I don't like this is something that's bring out things that don't like about myself and my appreciation and like of Lonzo is so directly tied to lavar. Yeah. Var starts yapping. You. Get mad at Lonzo. He's hurt. You can't go in on someone who's hurt and glad that he's still on the lake right? I mean, he's like fine. That'd be fine. It's nice. Nice guy. Nice kid kid chance. Chance or by lavar that everybody gets tired of having Lonzo round because it means. I gotta listen to this season's been great yellow, Barbara and very quiet thing from him. Well, not today. He only he only reared his head in the last few days. Yes. And apparently went on some media tour today. Yes. I also heard that if you ordered triple b shoes in October. Yep. They sent you out another notification, we'll see them until may exactly maybe twenty may. So. So you get them at all. So the Lakers. When all of a sudden done they made two acquisitions at the deadline, the first one I think is is of more significance. Reggie bullock. Yeah. It was a good shooter. It's on a two point five million dollar expiring contract. He was scoring twelve points per game shooting thirty nine percent from three thirty nine percent from three in his career. That's a nice nice crap. Yeah. It's the weird Lakers trade that actually is just like a basketball trade, right? It has nothing to do with. No Fletcher roster about clearing cast as just like we need a shooter. Yup. Let's how about that guy. That guy's good. And we can afford him. He he's on a cost controlled kind of deal where he's a free on years walkaway he can walk away. But his cap hold is low enough that we might be able to keep him. He's a guy that you can reasonably think even with desire to have all this cap space could still be a Laker next year. We got his bird rights, and he's gonna help us do things like win basketball games. It's been. A while since we looked at a Lakers trade and didn't think of it in terms of what does that mean for next summer? Does that mean for free agency is this a basketball outline weird is the NBA has gotten so focused on the off season that a lot of people are missing the season it self that. Yeah. And time talking about well kyri leaves Boston goes New York K D as he stands he gone. Anthony Davis was he'd been trained. It's like you. There's so much off the field off the court stuff and future trades and potential trades and free agencies that were actually missing at times the the basketball itself. Well, this is what happened with football, isn't it? Yeah. Football used to just be about who's hurt. What's the strategy? What time is a game on and that was ESPN. And as it became more popular and creative thinkers came in there. It was more about well, let's find out some of these stories the stories the narratives the drama need more than just can they beat him. This guy said this and how do you react to that weight? He said what? And all of a sudden these stories as basketball has grown in popularity there. We have shows on ESPN the jump dedicated to talking about bass. Not the Xs and os, just whatever the hell is going. Of it NBA network. They're not just sitting there talking Xs and os all day. They got twenty four hours to feed you gotta talk some gossip. All right. Speaking of gossip. Kevin Durant went on a Kevin Durant s q in a Kevin round. Yeah. He wouldn't Kevin Durant. That's a good way to say we'll play that. Because it kind of ties into exactly what we're talking about right now. Mason Ireland trade deadline day, Freddie, prince junior along with Brian candidate ski ESPN LA. All right, ESPN, LA, Mason Ireland, Freddie, prints juniors here along with Brian candidate ski and you can listen during our one o'clock hour today for your chance to win Lakers bucks tickets on March wild Lakers bucks tickets. That's a great game March one when you hear the magic sounder be the seventh caller to eight seven seven seven ten ESPN and you win another. To win during the Sodano show this afternoon. Yes, you can see Nicola miratec. If you go to that game. That's who everybody's going to. That's who they're paying deceive Merita ch-. All right. Also at supermarkets Lakers fifth row Fridays. This week. We got a super guts fifth row Friday package to see probably not dressed Anthony Davis. And the pelicans on February the twenty seventh and autograph basketball chairman's club passes and a super cuts gift card. Here's how you win. There will be a question from each day this week, including something we say today tomorrow to thirty pop quiz super cuts fifth row Fridays. Brought to you by super super cut. You can enjoy the signature hot towel finish free of charge with every haircut. Just read a bunch of stuff and my allowed extra. I'm not technically an employee. Yeah. To compete for that tomorrow. If I call technically. Yes, you heard that Greg don't think that's a day. It's the county. Mason an Ireland show. Okay. Yeah. That's the final. A word Jensen. May he said, it's cool. It's cool. It's cool. Now. Right. Dan, ready can play. Rens the third on. Friends. Right. That's right. Pretty fins. All right. So on the Eddie fray, we were talking about sort of the the narratives now the takeover in the NBA. We'll let you know if you're just tuning in. The Lakers did make a minor deal day they made it with the clippers they acquired Twenty-seven-year-old Mike Moskal who's a five million dollar expiring contract stretch for stretch five career thirty six percent three point shooter shooting a little shy of that this year thirty four percent, but a shooter which shoot up is what we thought the Lakers should be going out and getting all summer long. Michael Beasley goes out in that deal along with visa zoo bots. We have west Matthews news. Just give it to Shamsher on your says Wesley Matthews will be released by the Knicks today and plans to sign with the Indiana Pacers. That takes them off of the Lakers list. Son with them one step closer come ELO Anthony last at last site, they were beating us by forty two points probably watch that last game. So these. Title. I want to be there. The next sign with the Celtics. Yeah. I still think the best bioch- is Wayne Ellington. I he's gonna have a ton of attention. Think about the buyout guys. Like you. It's you want people who Philly specific neither every once in a while you get a player who's just that good like really good player who can do a lot of stuff where aid even star for. But usually it's oh my God, we need shooter. Or we need, you know, a defense we need something. And this guy comes along and just fills that role purlee. We let him go. I'll bet I wouldn't be surprised if he held a grudge and was like, I'm not going back. They're just you. Let me go. Again. I'm gonna go someplace where I'm really wanted. I I wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of people like that. There are a lot of people like that the Lakers have gone through their share guys, Wayne Ellington. I don't think was was mother. Pre this group. Yeah, that's true. That's pretty Spanish. Magic pre match can rob wouldn't signed into a long term deal either. No. But I'm not saying grudge would be warranted. I'm just saying that happens. Like, right. I was younger and even today there's people that I won't work with. Yeah. I'm like not that. I happen. It like walking Phoenix for exam. That guy I would've worked forever. Every single role. I would have played second third fourth or fifth bananas. I heard he used to show up for auditions even want just because he heard Freddie was there. Wait a minute. Freddie watch. We do expand conspiracy. Hey. Screw overprint again today. I got nothing else to do. But he doesn't even compete at all with you for rules. Yeah. No. It's just fun. Just turn them into like, some DC comics super villain, Scooby doo four want it. Hey, freddie. I changed. My mind can have it. Thanks had just giving me the bad news freak me out. So we've been talking a little bit about the the young core of players that remains visas Ubu has gone to the clippers, but we still have Josh heart and Lonzo ball and Brandon Ingram and cow MMA. And whether or not there will be an emotional hangover from them being sort of dangled out there for New Orleans to look at an valuate, and John who always you know, has the simple answer will there. They'll be fine. They'll be fine. And I by the way, I also think they'll be fine. I just think there's going to be a bit of an emotional hangover. And if you're wondering if you ever outgrow feelings about being speculated about in the media as an NBA player listen to Kevin Durant from last night. Do Ethan straw from coming here. Just give his whole opinion stuff and make the same legs coming from me. And he just walking around here. Don't talk to nobody just walk in here and survey something like that and now. Yeah, pollen on me because I wanna talk to you about that nothing to do with the Knicks. I don't know who traded porzingas got nothing to do. With me. I'm trying to play basketball coming every day actually about free agency is my teammates. My coaches roundup the fans about it. Let us play basketball. That's all on saying. And now on talk the problem on me Goma grow up. Yeah. You grow up. Moreover, I come in. To work every day on 'cause no problems. I play right away y try to play the right way. I try to be the best player can be every possession was the problem. What am I doing? Why do I got to talk to you? Tell me does that is that going to help me do my job better. No, I didn't feel like talk. I just don't trust the very time. I say something good twisted up and throwing out in so many different publications trying to tell me down with my words, I say, so when I don't say. The problem. I just wanna play ball. I wanna go to the gym and go home. That's all that problem. All right. All right. How are you playing house attain plane? I'm done. You know, you don't care about that. I just asked you. All right. There's Kevin Durant from last night. He's wrecked. The person who has like western does not care. How? Somebody who's been in that room and done that job. I can tell you absolutely one hundred percent that person had zero interest in how Kevin Durant feels that. The warriors are playing over the last. Well, and and you know what? And that's exactly what DRAMs claiming about. It's it's not that. I. About the narrative. It's about this story line. It's about as going to the next. It's about who's going to the Knicks with them. It's about his next destination. Freddie, I tend to lean to what? Kevin Durant is saying. However, there are some things he stayed in there that are unrealistic and just it ain't going to be that way. It is very difficult to be in the public eye and to be speculated about right, right? And the only way you can shut down a story is if you become a part of that story and continue to help that person's career go up who just said something horrible about you, which is inaccurate and untrue. Okay. So that's on that front. I completely agree with Kevin Durant, and that type of media practice goes on every single day from just as many bad reporters as there are great reporters who would not do that. Okay. Not wanting to be a part of narratives. There's nothing wrong with that. At all. If he would rather. Not be a part of gossip stories than when he says. No, I don't want to answer that and people get mad. That's on them. That's on them. He's not legally bound or contractually bound to answer every question that said to think that those questions aren't going to be asked is incredibly naive, right unrealistic and to get mad in front of them about that shows an inability to deal with that kind of added pressure, which he said over and over just let me play ball. Just let me play ball. Just let me play ball. Kevin durant? Two-time finals MVP league MVP. He has a hard time dealing with speculation about himself. Listen, tell me put yourself now in the heads of the twenty two twenty three year old Lakers, the the baby Laker so to speak. If it bothers Kevin Durant still after all these years, and I'm not saying it will be uniform. The reaction will not be uniform among so's four. Guys. Oh personalities of the same. I agree. But but it's gonna it's gonna get to them in a more significant way than where adjusted. I think what's important remember to. Here's when you compared to rant to these young guys Katie controls where he's gonna play act Katie knows what he's saying. I know I know, but I'm just saying like the different one of the differences between Katie. And these young guys is Katie is upset at the speculation about a future that he controls. Yeah. And we're deeply interested in there's no question, and there, I mean, the other have LeBron had this problem. One year he deals every year in Cleveland. I'm going to answer questions about us in in in Cleveland, first day, whatever I'm not gonna talk about again. And that was basically the end of it. But it's not just speculation. He's talking about people literally saying, here's how Kevin Durant feels. Here's what of in Durant going who do let me just let me just add to this that. Kevin durant? Isn't the only one that speaks for Kevin Durant? He has a. A camp dudes, and it is very possible that I- whoever this ethin- Strauss's. Do you know eat them? He worked for. Yes. Pan for a long time. Now covers the worst let it's possible. He's talking to someone in. Strauss is the very least whether got I don't know his sourcing inside camp Durant. But like the stuff he wrote with Draymond in. You know, they were saying that the guys in the warriors think that he's out the door. That Durant is out the door. That is not Ethan Strauss. Just making stuff up. He is a very good reporter, and he talks to people. Right. And so so based on this report, which means Kevin Durant didn't necessarily say to this reporter, this is what I'm thinking. And this is what I'm gonna do. I'm ready in camp Durant could very well have steered this reporter there. That's just the thing could have is one thing. And here's the blurry line. And this is why celebrity and media play nice. But they're still a lot of tension between them. Celebrity is to the point now, and I understand the media evolved, just like every other industry, you are stocked and hunted like wild game only instead of being shot by a rifle from some scumbag. Poacher you now become digital currency for trying to get your photo or ask you a question without scheduling an interview, which is what TMZ is it's just a camera in your face a barrage of questions, and if you don't answer your jerk like I answer questions, I get interviewed. Do it properly. It is so dehumanizing that some people are going to react the way. Kevin durant? Do where they're like. Look, I am not an animal at the zoo that you're coming to speculate on what my breeding habits are going to be. If you bring a female of my species into this environment. I'm a human being trying to play basketball. He says this over and over and the first question he's asked when it's done. Goes right back to his point the dehumanisation instead of dressing anything that he said someone how do you guys think you're playing the last couple of games? Like, it's as if he didn't say a word to them, right literally. As if he said nothing because reporters like, okay, I'm gonna ask whatever question I want, and that's what he's talking about. The he wants a certain amount of respect, which he doesn't feel as entitlement. He feels it's basic common dignity and that line is so blurry. Now, it's defined for him but universally it's so blurry that we both on both sides celebrities, whether they're athletes musicians actors or the press we constantly fumble. Instead, nobody handles this worse than Kevin Durant. I don't know heaven doors. It's just I know it is to do. There is an Instagram. He's arguing with some kid in his bedroom. Some night about whether or not him going to Golden State was the weakest move ever. Or whatever the hell was. I mean when you argue with some kids Instagram account, and it was literally a kid, right? You can't. Let that get to you. You have to have some level. I've never seen security in the philosophy of you can't let that get to you work. Like, it's never like you either equipped to deal with it or you're of all the guys who are trade. I never heard another K D press conference out there today. I understand. He's the only guy that went on this rant everybody else's being speculated about two. I'll I'll presented a different weight. You can't dictate behaviour. Right. But that's what the media does he dealt with this horribly. No K. Let's let the eighth on his his terrorists. I got to squeeze in a break. But let's let's hold this. Mason Ireland Brian Kaminsky cheer, Freddie, prince juniors here. It's trade deadline day. It's all over the Lakers come away with Reggie's. Mike scala? Those are the two gets for the Lakers were digging into it today. ESPN?

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CIPYD 33: Paige Weldon and TSA Dogs

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CIPYD 33: Paige Weldon and TSA Dogs

"Is there a dog Anna car out of bar on the street? That's a dog that we really want to me. Hey, can I Pat your? Cannot pet your dog. Dog with Rene and Allegra. Welcome to can I pay your dog. I'm Allegra Ringo. A dog owner. I'm Renee over a dog wander. And this is our producer Travis McElroy. Oh. Being up. Yeah. It's the evening. We don't usually do the evenings. Drew his full day. Welcome CIP after we'll see. I thought my usual had a full day is like welcome. I've had a full day. Oh because you don't get to do what I do. Which is. I sit on Twitter for eight hours a day. Tell me how great I am. Sure. And and and to be fair sure is back and forth. I also tell people how they are. I run my Twitter, very, positively. I have seen you using hashtag rage lately. Great job. Also, check that style. That's my version of follow Friday. Would day. Do you release a check that style. Also on Friday. I'm trying to muscle out. Friday. No, it can't be filled with not only the positivity of my personal Twitter followers, and the positively positively of giving them, positively. But also I follow at CPR de podcast and member of the campaign your dog Facebook group, so I get filled with the positivity of cute puppies. And people dressing costumes will mostly dogs dressing. I consider dogs. Thank you. What a great attitude before you had that enthusiastic. Hello. I wasn't really feeling much different Podesta that. I was just like let's get into it. I energy the power will. It's amazing. I felt as life, right? Let's down. Listen, what was your? Let's talk about the experience my experience confessional tonight. Tonight. I'm going to reveal it all just got to let you know. All all about the all honesty, but maybe not on our cutesy show. You know what though? But it's after days version of a confessional is probably something like a Larry tame, though, it's probably like once I ate once I had half a milkshake. And I didn't tell anybody is true. It is. Confession that my brother makes fun of me relentlessly for is we used to walk to the grocery store, and he got a really bad blister. And so I shop lifted abandoned for. I got into the shop with. Time. Pretty sure how old are you? No we were in swim team together. So he was six eleven guarantee if you'd walked onto the county that I Hello. I'm an eleven year old. For a six year old the person would have gone. Yes. Get out of here. The police out in handcuffs vagrant, so cute. That is a classic example of Rene story that she thinks that's so funny, isn't it still weighs on heavily defended. Boxing, like wonder if somebody else's one of those days where you're gonna go back to that store and give them like a million dollars. That's for the interest on the band aid. You're in your coats, and your Monica and no silk top hat his years after you've been made rid as a band aid magnet. It's that old story. Right. Yes. The old tale of the child who steals abandoned amid invest in bandaids, very rich. Who's that your fancy dog fancy dog as well? Also with the Monica and also for code, but a different for because it is a dog. It's not real. Not real real though, the dog would have real it's a dog. Okay. You have a synthetic dog. Listen, we don't know what year this is going to be it could be a robot. The point I know the desert along opening, but can I tell you guys there were recording evening win this podcast come out? I'm going to be on a plane to go take care of my nephew miles. That's like magic and my nephew plays the puppy God for a full week. So as you're listening right now old anti Renee has hit the friendless guys. Rene? You'll be posting. I'm sure lots of pitch would say every hour on the hour. So either the you'll either love it'll your hate it. But it's going to come at you, hard and fast listening to this. They'll probably love it. So what are we ourselves into this week? That guy. Proudly it's an audio meet to get into that. Right. All right. We have dogs. We met this week. As always we have an interesting update about TSA dogs. Excellent. We do and we have guests page. There was a comedian and writer and designed our logo. I have a minute on bull mastiffs for you. Great. And I got a couple of special. Thanks, some special things special thing. Boy. All right. Well, we better get to it. Okay. Now, you guys listen. I I I feel like I've been cheating a little bit just because I'm not leaving my neighborhood to meet these dogs. They're all it's running rampant in my neighborhood would leave your name dogs ice floor. This. You're still like ring bring the listener and accurate account of Los Angeles. I'm only reporting what's happening in west Luca lake, but that's a fancy version. It's really north Hollywood we should be taking more helicopter tour semi dogs. We were responsible for like a geography portion. Okay. You will. I'm not seeking any of the dogs. I've met being presented by Bailey. Okay. Well, I sit on the porch for at least eight hours a day. Just waiting for a dog. I get wifi out. There wonder out drinking a mint julep. For gentlemen. I wish any part of that was exaggerated. But I my job is mostly just like writing freelance from home these days. So I do I just sit on my little my stoop and a right. And then I put my Randa it's much more southern on the verandah on the sit on. Okay, right here. Southern accents. Sit on the veranda. No, that's not. I get myself a bear. Doing you're doing like a hick. You wanna do like a sit out on the veranda on the ryen much better. You want southern luxury. We don't want the south Oklahoma one div south. I you know, what you know. Accents. Okay. So by next door neighbor. So they have a duplex where they can't have dogs there, which has been amazing and probably talk about the other two at some point. But today, I want to talk about Calvin who is a I'm pretty sure like a like a FOX hound lab who'll type of dog. She's looks like an orange lab that's white Calvin. It's he's Australian I don't know if Calvin is a girl's name in Australia. Okay. Wait, you're saying the owners Australia, the owners Australian into the dog's a girl named Karen. I love it. I don't know. Kelvin loves to hop that fence really loves and she will go nowhere. She'll stay right by the fence challenge yet. Oh, she loves it. So so Calvin comes over sumit like the first two times came over initially. Oh, she loves me. She does not love me. The owner is looking for her because she's in big trouble kind of fighter. Kelvin's? My new basically daily buddy that's adorable fence. It's like it's like a white picket. So real three. Okay. Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. It's not not meant to contain necessarily. Boundary. Yes. Deterrent? Calvin yet. I'm well. Get on over here. I hope she over to the range overspent anytime. I'm gonna come over for a may split. Just been going to your house too much. You should come to mind. Well, I went to your has a record a bunch of podcast right now. I know I'm picturing the future of you guys sitting there drinking eliminated each notebooks. Just a furiously scrubbing scaling down notes as you see dogs walk. It's true. And we also want to really quick talk about a dog. We wanted me. Right. Very desperate. All right. So it max fun. There is a is it a new dog? Did somebody was Jennifer. Yeah. And she it is she did newly adopted. Oh, Jennifer, and you can see the transformation between like when he was adopted when they got his haircut and got all spoofed up and look real sharp. Most extreme why go little downtown gentleman. A real good real sharp. His name is George. He's a little. I don't know. What breed little little white guy legally? He's poodle ish Reich's. He's got well, I guess poodle's. He's kinda small but with long legs with you. Is he cute? So if you guys aren't already following fun. Do they have an Instagram do race? That's fun HQ as him on Twitter. There's lots of cute photos of him. He's really cute. There's also skipper who's another max von office dog who is adorable between the two of them. It's it's Q doc central down there. Jesse thorn? Well, here's what I heard guys you got some gossip. Yes. It's been long known that Jesse refers to skipper as his best friend. Everyone knows that all the tabloids. But guess what I saw today. He did while George was there called George his friend. I know. Oh boy. So I was gonna shake out. You know? I think we're gonna have to ask him to give me this is a rumor, I dunno. Okay. Can you confirm or deny Backley we're going to have to get confirmation from excellent. All right. All right. So that's it. That's for dogs. I met this week. Hi, everybody wanted to take a quick break term that the max fund drive is coming up if you don't know anything about the max fund drive. 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You'll have a chance to be a part of the magic. And we want you to be a part of the magic. So stay tuned to at podcast at max, fun HQ and go to maximum fund dot org. So you don't miss out. Are are you guys ready for now? Here's the thing. Let me say this. We've got a new listener is the first time they've ever listened to CIP y d-. What is my minute Travis. Well, I was thinking same thing. What if somebody's lost loved lead you into the light by telling you, please do minute is a weekly segment that we do that describes a type of breed and one minute now it has been a little bit controversial. And some people say these breeds not much, we know. But all dogs is months dogs is month. Also, we love the alliteration and a lot of our listeners have mixed breeds. So so you learn a little about one Brady learned a little bit about the other breed and the new together can figure out ways like that. So what are we talking this? We love to tell you. We are talking about mastiffs bull mastiffs in particular shore. Now, I'm close enough to him that I messed. You're on a last name name. Okay. So now, it's it's Allegra turn to give us a bull massive report in one minute. Your time begins now the bull mastiff is a large dog with a solid build and short muzzle. The breed's bloodlines are drawn from the old English massive and the extinct old English bulldog different than today's English both. It was developed by nineteenth century gamekeepers to guard estates males twenty five to twenty seven inches at the withers way. One hundred ten to one hundred and thirty pounds with females only slightly smaller. A bull mastiffs coat may be gone red or Brindle. The preferred colored by these nineteenth century gamekeepers was brindell as color works at night as a more effective camouflage. We'll masses are strong powerful, but sensitive dogs. They have floppy ears and huge floppy lips in my personal experience. They drew a lot the American kennel club describes them as calm and low key. But someone active they do well at sports like Jila training. But fact, mastiffs have held the title of largest. By weight in the Guinness Book of world records multiple times. Well, good job with our time. Fifty three. Sure. Say sensitive Deanna motion. Well, and here's the thing. I'm not saying like I was going to make that more of a joke. But then I was like, maybe true. Well, I should have explained that more that is a quote from Wikipedia. I believe what they were getting at was that they are. I think the toes a weird word because right after that they went on to describe that they take well to training. Sensitive is a weird word to say like picks up well on training possible that they just mean like receptive? Because you could have a bigger dog. That's kind kind of clumsy kind of like, oh, they've just big gluts. Oh, no. The bull massive is like sensitive to its surrounding and actually paying attention. You know, who I always think of when I think of both masters who the beast from San lot. Yes. That's the first thing that always pasta my head. And I think that was a bull mastiff? But it was definitely a massive was the ones I looked at looked a lot like that like really huge and drooling like their lips are just everywhere. So I think they're real cute. I have to one comment one question. The question is what's wither, a weather like a shoulder haunch? I'll show. Yes. So it's like the top of their in the person who is developing that might be. But but it's close enough. You get. Get. I would maybe contest is why did we keep coming up with other names for it? We should have stopped at with her. That's fun. Great line from wither some great line from into the woods end of the woods. Get the line while her withers with with her. Disappointed in myself that I should know that should know that the way that I know treason is through Michigan probably not. Dogs musical minute. And then my second question was I wanna hear your anecdotal experience about the massive that drew, you know, I gotta say I don't have a ton of bull mastiff experience. I do remember I don't know whether sticks out so much to me. I remember one time I was walking down all Arado in LA, and this very friendly older gentleman had a bull massive. And he was just super keen on talking about him to us, and like kind of told us like the whole history of the bull massive he was real into it. And this dog just like we'll standing there patiently being pet by me like drooled like the whole of my pants with all they just drool so much. Sure he was such sweetheart very jowly face. The the have a little bit of a I would say boxer face to them but much Bo cure. For sure it's definitely a powerful looking dog. I imagined day. I've never owned a Beaumont. I've never owned anything other than a terrier. But I would imagine that you probably run a lot into the same stuff that like a Google terriers. Do we're like people see them coming and they're like that's a that's a mean dog. Yes. Definitely. And also per our recent report on pit bulls. I did learn that sorry on what excuse me on Google Terry get that. We did learn that bull massive are sometimes mischaracterized as Google's. So there is a little bit of error there. But yes, they are kind of intimidating looking. They tend to be very sweet dogs, though, big doesn't eat will mean they with that was the very sensitive there. So the whales of land their land Wales. Niceties land. Yeah. That's not my experience of him. And all that. There was a story that I had where I was naming that kid, and there was no massive sleeping. And I was thinking let's wake them up and say, hi, and it was clearly like guard dog, please don't integral. That was a bull mastiff? But he listening to your tater. That's fine. I don't know why. I know what you mean. There's a house down the street that I walked by everyday when I go out morning afternoon evening, everyday walk pass it and there's like a beware of dog sign on the fence. I have never in the last three months. Never see Madonna. Yeah. Person thinks her fooling. But yeah, I I've gotten really goes like knock even during like come on come on. Pudding. Spooky I beware of dog signs have like maybe the first one ever was like threatening. And you may you like, okay, I'll say way, but it's like it's like now when you hear a car alarm to off don't care, you're not like someone's car. Well, it's should just say like, hey, there's a dog. But people like me, it feels like a welcome mat? It's like come on. Okay. Here's the new Siamese to be made Dobie surprised. There's a. That's really what you're trying to say. Like if you knock on my door dogs bark. Surprised? There's a. Yeah. That's good. I love it. Excellent job. Do you have one for me? I do. So you guys guess what? There are different types of massive. And several of our listeners have requested a minute on the Tibetan mastiff. So I'm assigning that to you think you're gonna like it giants. It's so nice. Well, Mary early Christmas. We asked if master. This is March massive madness. Gra make that shirt make that Surena mmediately aware, send me your money. Send me your money for same. Military myself, you guys just send me money. We'll figure the rest. And that does it for this week's mutt. Minute. All right, guys. Can I pet your dog is supported in part by Luke pets? Luke pets is a monthly subscription mystery crate for pets and the people that love them they deliver fun and hard to find a peril. Excess Sary's toys treats and more. It's under twenty dollars a month. And for that you get six to eight items include gear, apparel, collectibles, and more. It's super fun each month has a special theme. I have one for possession this month. It is very cute. 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But I left out loud a good every thirty old. I would I would I would say that on the Amazon page. Happily which is one of the places you can get it. You could. On Amazon for like, six bucks. And you can also buy the seven inch vinyl from a special thing though. Yeah. I heard that they have it at amoeba. But I haven't. Okay. All right time. That'd be so cool. I don't think they sell vinyl at target get it most seven eleven. Time all in due time. It's patriotism, but is there have a catchy name like the? Album. That good. Love your day. Like, you had a clever thing. The record is called uncomfortable. This. Yep. That's good time q. Thank you. Okay. Dollars. Do you have a talk yourself? I do not currently have a dog at the podcast Asari. Neither do I neither do. I just cost everyone. I'll leave you have had dogs throughout your childhood. I've seen many pictures of them. Yeah. We always had like three or four dogs growing up. My parents currently have three dogs. Wow. Yeah. That's where was home for you. Which I grew up in southern California place called Temecula. Sure. California me too. Yep. Where are you from from Costa Mesa in Orange County? Pretty cool. Not really that close. To find other California's. Yeah, I I could have driven there when I was in high school. Yeah. I didn't it was pretty far. Driven petty chillers dog. So what kind of dogs? Did you have growing up was a big family small dog family? Well, and initially it was big dogs. We had we had my parents had cats before I was born and the. You know, what enough of this? Maybe kat. What did we can handle the dog? I think maybe I've been made. But when we moved to to macula, we it was a day where we went to target a bar. I believe it was a shower curtain, and they had puppies out front of the target in cardboard box style. And we got our first dog Hanna who's a big dog. She was a she was a mutt. But she was she looked like a black lab. Oh, oh, yeah. She was the best. And then we had no well who after starting with Noel we named all of our dogs after when we got them. So we got no L at Christmas. Oh, that's good. She was like medium size. And then eventually we got Sam Hayat around the fourth of July. Small dog. He was a Shitsu who was first small dog. You. I'm gonna keep going with these names. What else we have the next? Hog. There. It is eight ac- groundhog. It's. And then the next one. This sounds lazy at first, but there's layers to the next one's June. Sure, we got in June, but it's spelled J O N. And if you remember the movie Betty in June, the character's names are salmon June. So there's layers. It's like an onion that dog's name to and onion Bach, lavar. These dogs overlap that you had them at the same time. We had we had no well, salmon, June all the same time. And then also after I moved out, my parents got another dog, I guess to fill the hole and that dog's name was maybe like in arrested development. Choose from me. Best. I wanna go over the bridge again. So Hannah was a black lab. Noel was I don't know what kind of she was. She was just medium size in orange. Okay. Yeah. Was a shift shoe, and then Juna some kind of terrier she's like, very mop doggy. She's little she kind of looks like that dog from the Muppets picturing at the one that's like white and stringy and maybe as actually. Not Rolf not role. Not the dog from the Franco's. Don't know if anyone would know this dog, I just know it because it looks like June. Okay. You're talking about. I think we'll find it. Yeah. Somebody tweet that too. Now, do you remember as a child where you like? Yeah. I'm on board with or were you like get these out of here. You know? Oh, I love dogs. I've always left dogs that was that was very leading question. I thought I knew the answer not really peach categorize yourself as a big dog person a small dog person or your. I am medium dog person. I love all of I mean. The only kind of dog I struggle with is when it's so little that I feel like I can't play with it. Because then I feel worried that I'm gonna hurt it. But I think big dogs in little dogs both have their advantages. A big dog. You can kind of Russell around with little dogs that on your lap. Yeah. Most great things. And I think we talked over a little bit. But did you guys here? She said the last dog was according. Taking her to corgi beach. Actually, my parents went to corgi beach day once and I met them everything from the time the alarm went off. Well, so I drove ancient beach, and it was very difficult to park and calling my mom, and she was like, I don't know where we are dark with corgis wearing the trunk dogs. Eventually I found them and on the found it very stressful 'cause they're all off leash just running around that stretch them. Yeah. I didn't want one of them took it lost at sea. That seems like a possibility. The goals to take them. Seems real like that could happen. Yeah. That does seem it seems possible when Rene and I went to court, you beach day a lot of the corgis that were toward the water had little swimming floaty things on. Oh my God. Look, so cute. I think I think people are taking precautions because I can't imagine what those little legs cookie actually swimmers scene. There little baby turtles. Peach. Have you seen the life jackets for dogs where the so it's a normal life jacket goes through their front paws. But then on the back is a handle. Steam, those photos and just moved on not notice. There was a handle. Oh, yeah. A lot of people had them. And then they would like lift the dogs out of the water with both hands like by their handles and the little dog would keep paddling in the air. You know, like they do. I ask you what may be a very personal question. Well, why do you not have dogs? First question, I have to. Listen, I want to know. I just don't think I would be able to take care of it. I'm very busy. I don't have a backyard. I, you know, these are the things these are good reasons the LA very fair apartment allow dogs. That's my hang up that I have is a I think technically that it. I think technically doesn't. But I know for sure that people in the building have short the lot. Yeah. Building sort of lawless. It's the kind of thing where if you don't have like somebody on site, and it was like, hey, don't have a dog. And it's like. Cool. We've moved here. We don't have you know, supervi- super on site or anything like no one. We're allowed to have dogs import, Geno. But like no one's around. Like, they wouldn't know if I was like, yeah. I got six more. They'd be like, okay. Well, we're never going to come by. There is a dog in my building who. So the way my building set up every apartment has a little patio behind it. And then there's a there's a shallow wall. So you can see the next patio and one of the adjacent patios. There's a dog that just will sort of pop up every once. Looking at you, the best do we know what kind of dog that would be? I don't know what kind of dog that was it's definitely Doug big. Real cute. Yeah. Real cute. So going back to the ducks that you had as a kid. Do we have any hull Leiria stories of the three of them kind of together or you dogs? I feel like I always think of them in phases of like well Hannah my favorite thing about Hannah as she shoes super sweet dog. But she would do this thing where she would like walk up to you. And just push her head into your knees for no reason, she wanted me that I don't know. Love them. Again. I'm outta here. I don't know. But she was always really sweet. And then no well. She's just cheap. When we first got her. She was very skittish. But she always got along with Hannah they would run away together. Sometimes they would disappear and we'd be like. African come back. And they always did they just sit at the door. They would get into trouble together. Then Sam I feel like I was not accepted because he was little but venture -ly him in Hanna became buddies. And they would cut on stuff. Oh, Anna, Leixoes knees. Sam has knees. Like, wait a minute. You've got four. Right. I know you're listening elbows. I remember that whole episode elephants. Yes. I remember sanded not have forties thing. If you were to get a dog, do we have? And I deal of what what you would get like if you had a huge Dow gone house situation, I do feel like I would get a lab Hanno sweet. And I feel like they're just good. Really the dogs dog. You know what I mean? Like picture a dog before you think you're going to picture while no picture terrier? But it's all I've ever owned. I think most people would be like labrador retriever, maybe. This is putting you on the spot a little bit. But could you choose the month? You get it in what you'd name shows how that's. Okay. That's that's unfair. It'd be like why for stuff why? Arbor day. Says if I was to get a dog now I would name it Patrick Patrick. That's good. That's really cute. Come on, Pat. That's really Irish solid game gamer Aaron that's pretty good. Okay, wills really cute. Well, we have a surprise. You know? Backyard time to take care of it. Well, here's a dog. My roommates to take care there you go. Roommates. And I think I do I don't love it. They're probably nine. Great probably cool now page, as you know, as a designer, you know that every episode we ask our guest to name a fictional dog. We give you the breed and the sex, and then you have to name it. Okay. Can you handle this? I guess so. Okay. I think I just handle I was giving. Giving. Who actually this is? Okay. This is that was that was kind of similar I want go. All right. All right. Calm down. Right. Say quiz. O Travis is doing it. Now. Because you guys were out and I'm back out. Now, a male Irish wool found, and you get them around Easter and had an element. Trevor. Okay. Oh, I do wish. It was a girl because it would be funny to name it bunny. That's great. I love it. You could name a bunny. I feel like it's an old woman. Name really say. Yeah. All right. What I say it works or anyone ARCE. My brain said Pete because a Peter cotton tail but that's not the Easter bunny. Rabbit? Hold on. Hold on Peter contel, not the. Well, nobody talk about it later. Yeah. He's on its way. Right. Okay. You know, what we're gonna figure this off, Mike? All right. But right now, saying retraction of my genius mind, instead of dumb, mind brilliant. Brilliant to correct page and tell her that the correct name for a dog around Easter was Jesus. That is. My bad sorry page excuse me you fail. This question. You know, I wasn't expecting. You should always expect. Of. Does tell us about your album, again, tell us about your Zine tells about everything about you before we let you go. Okay. I have a seven inch record out from Joan arrays literally figurative records, which is a part of a special thing records. It's called uncomfortable at best. You can get it from a special thing. You can download on Amazon. I believe it's on Spotify. But I also like money. Whatever you wanna do. And then I have Zine coming out from the devastator in March called the drama sutra, which you can get from them and various little bookstores and stuff we find you on Twitter and on the internet. You can find me on Twitter at Pedro Elden just my name. And just I, you know, I have a website. I don't do anything to it. You also have the Higgs Weldon with money. Comedy sites. Thank you for reminding me of that so much time on it. You had a lot of things about. So I just wanted to listeners to know. It's very fun comedy website that you should check out Robin Higgins is another very funny comedian. She's very great, and the Legua has also contributed to that website. My my first possession publications letters to possess show was published on the exalted. Yes. That's so true. Very historic moment. Draw a little pistachio didn't. Yeah. Yes. Great. It's the best page. Thank you so much for being here and talking to us about your dog's happy to do it. Thanks for having me. Okay. Guys. I have a special I'm gonna call this dog news. However, this is another case where this is not a new development. It is simply something we learned about recently. News. If we didn't know about it one of the chances that the average listener knew about it. I mean. Yeah, I think the most critical reason that we need to know this is which song do you need right now. Do you need dog tech dooney? Doug news. Do you need? What? How can I set this up dog new to me? Doug, new to me. Okay. It's new to me. It's value in Muna me do Nunu to me. It's noon to me all new to me. Okay. That was actually pretty good. I was the only one who's actually written so far that right? Me we have been meeting. I know every Saturday. Have you years the calluses on? Well. Show was it was good. Thank you. That was dog unity. I gotta say, I'm impressed. I was expecting a series of beeps, which is usually that headline works and everything's good. Well, first of all I would like to thank our very own Travis Mackel, right? We're telling us about this story. So here's the sich in twenty twelve the Transportation Security Administration started hitting out trading cards for their TSA. Don love at guys, this is ridiculous. So these are collectible cards, featuring the more than one hundred and seventy dogs. They feature a close of photo of the dog. It's biographical info each line. Oh, a German wire haired pointer born December first ten educated at Lackland air force base. They also show a photo of the dogs and action and describe their quote career highlights. At least give an example. Please get I didn't find example. I think it's gotta be because these are like bomb-sniffing dogs. No, no. I've heard before because they also do like smuggling and like custom stuff. So when the the dude who told me about these said that one of the career highlights was like found X amount of tons of our like pounds of mangoes in somebody's suitcase. And it's like because that's also what it's about. It's like finding stuff people are trying to think into the country. I love this so much for the back like it's a cocaine sniffing dog. But instead he was chocolate chip cookies. Tongs overlook on what their career highlights honor? Like, that's what you play. Bomb? Try to eat them. I hope so now they're. They're so arm point there so training. I do I do wanna do this. I want one do I wanna flunkies career? I I feel like we just keep paging the next Pixar movies. The bad security. Has no sense of smell. But he doesn't think it'll show what he has heart. Maybe smells to good. I mean, I think it's a lot of false alarms can happen. Too good. And he's got too much energy sound like he has a sense that if you smell like, ooh this smells. Hear about the dog knows removed house. He smell terrible. Our our the Catskills. Reforming next weekend. The laugh factory legs. Can I get a hold of these cards in trade them? Well, here's the thing as twenty fourteen which was the most up to date and felt I could find personally, the trading cards are available only specific participating airports. And there was a list of about ten of them. Did I did not see LAX on there? But again, this was twenty fourteen. So some airports are participating I think you have to look at that before you just go asking around Alison wanna say make sure you talk to a canine handler and not just unhappily airport employees going to be like real Mattie for us. Oh, no. Also, use your best judgment. And if it looks like they're like, busy and working. And like on the case do not bother that person. 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Dewayne Perkins

Homophilia

35:55 min | 2 years ago

Dewayne Perkins

"And matt dave. Do you know how certain people just show up with a specific energy that you just want to be around around. Yeah yeah our guest. This week brought that energy absolutely like charismatic like <hes> like i haven't seen in ages and so funny <hes> young dwayne perkins dewayne perkins here this week <hes> <hes> we got him. I will tell you this. We got him fresh first thing in the morning before going into the office to write for brooklyn nine <hes> and he is his. I mean not everybody can deliver on a morning podcast. Wayne really delivers you know i i i just looking at his twitter account because he's one of the he's one of the best that we have on twitter. He's very good and i'm just scrolling through. There's just too much. I don't even know where to begin to wonder under lot of normandy content of course we haven't done fair. What are your thoughts on the normandy motivation video. I'll how old is going to do doing tweets justice. Why would anybody wanna listen to me read. His tweets follow him on twitter. You probably already are but anyway yeah yeah well. I was in montreal during the normany explosion ends at the end of the weekend we had barely been on our phones and michael. We've got a just normany and and motivation are two words that we need to know and i didn't even know she was from fifth harmony yeah. He's schooled me on who she is where she came from. Yeah i loved it. It's incredible she really i not to echo my entire twitter feed but she did that. She did they act. It's it's great. It's almost overstuffed. It's it's almost a thriller for our time. Yeah you know she's i feel like she has rejuvenated the art of the music video in a way. We really needed somebody to do yeah does she. Is she actually in one of the locations from the baby one more time video during that basketball scene i think she might be she is is motivated me yes or no question about it. We are going to get out of the way down so that twain perkins can come in dazzle the fuck capture. That's right you're is we we are back with dwayne perkins. How are you. I'm doing great. How are you so good. We're doing this a little earlier than usual because we really wanted to get you in. You're in a writer's room <hes> <hes> are you a morning person in general i know but i've had to force myself to become one to be a profession. <hes> ah how does one become a morning person you wake up very early then you cry yeah i just because i now work out <hes> before work as a week and that has forced me to want to good <hes> so the superficialness visions of my life has forced me to become a morning person because there's no way i can work out after work. That's impossible no now. Are you having to deal with with your relationship with equinoxes. No i've never been rich enough to afford such a gym membership but now that i say i have a trainer which just like oh whatever yeah and it's in a little place in korea town. He yells at me and i do pull ups be a eagerness as effective in away. Okay we talk about our own relationships. We do <hes> <music> how so you've been in l._a. For a few months now yes. I moved here <hes> last october and it's been dough yeah yeah. I like it to settle. I i lived in hancock park now been to luca lake. Oh come on not far from me trader joe now. You've got your forms. There's a bunch of like little restaurants like neon lights like some other place. That's like a short white man in an bills or something like that <hes> yeah it is so great and i <hes> i i moved from new york which i hate it so it's such a nice ice channel which he did yeah. I do not like new york. How long were you there. I was there for almost a year and i was like this. This is enough. I have have endured this city yeah yeah it was just like it was a city where i felt like people costly asking things for me and i was like please stop and this is terrible. Then moved here and i was like this road shell yeah yeah. It's an in in everybody bonds because they're like we're living in a bad place doesn't make a strong and i was like no one makes you stupid. Leeann no yeah. I feel that way too but i no one especially people who are recent transplants ever come with that that truth isn't that cool because it's cooler to like. Have the mantu up like i'm a hustler survive. New york is like that's. I survived because i'm black and gay. I've had enough struggle and i don't want anymore. No it's entirely too much. Where were you there. I was in <hes> bushwick and brooklyn which is too busy. Nobody went went to sleep. I lived in between two twenty four hour bodegas above a bar and whenever our chinese restaurant which is like always something happening then moved to queens and it was great. It was just me like i i lived in a predominantly like asian neighborhood but they're all like old so they didn't to me me and a bunch of quiet. Gotta take that where you can yeah. This is great. It was closer to work at school. <hes> mhm here now <hes> org number nine yes which is a great show. Thanks to fund show. I love it. What <hes> what are you watching these days on t._v. Other than <hes> i watch a lot of bad tv like <hes> because i because work is like long. I usually don't wanna watch a lotta t._v. So when i go home i watch a pretty much like an animal and watch like scare. Tactics shares just like not good that is okay so is this your that used to be on. M._t._v. is hosted by tracy. Morgan is like a hidden camera except people up to scare them but is usually people just being like really confused like what is happening sir and like the acting never great and you see like big actors like it. It was a canadian show and you see like actor that you see on t._v. Now being like oh this where you got your start that's fine. It's just a very are you low stakes show. I watch pose one. Show the app like actively been like you should watch this show. Even though you're tired of tv yeah yeah also just finished. A series called the boys on amazon. How is that is great but also strange. It's polarizing so people are eating on lancaster. Lebanon is about like superheroes but it's pretty much mapped on my superheroes are like celebrities are they corporately endorsed deals in their terrible. They're pretty shitty celebrities but they're pretending to be like oh. We're like superheroes but they're like. How much money am i making. What what appearance fee is this and it's great feels like what the reality would be to audition for last year and then get it and i just that's that's like the way my brain works like well. You didn't pick me you should fail. I want to watch him okay. What did you think of a guy who got the part that you should have played. It was dennis quaid son so i was like that feels right. <hes> i yet the like watching watching that part of my oh yeah. No that wasn't meant for my buy gas that was meant for a very skinny wiry. White man feels right and preferably the son the famous why not tough row every day i pray. I wish i had some kind of nepotism in my life. It would just make things easier her impose. I think it is great like the first season that i watched. I was like oh. This is a show. That would have been really helpful to me as a child for sure. It does not take away that some of the acting. I'm like ooh but like you know when you create a show you finding like new original voices. Those voices are probably the people that have resources to like a plethora of acting glasses sure so if you want that reputation you just got to take. What's there eh you. I'm giving you this opportunity to step up and some of them stepped up real hard like i think india more is fantastic she are and then there's like certain other people that might oh you are trying so hard and i see you and i love you and that's enough for me 'cause like as a person and in this business i can watch this. This is a job. This is acting people like there's a range of like what good is and that's not for me to say but i have a preference and some of him. Don't meet the reverend's my oh you should talk humour sometimes when they don't talk like a human. It's like but i'm entertaining. I'm exactly this is the world. This is talk reality that they have created for me. Yeah it's amazing how quickly yeah just sort of bought a couple of big over the top performances couple episodes. You're like that's a choice for you like that's a joy is okay dave. Does i'm not gonna know but dave does a surprising dairy good electra. I don't know about the teas better which no one has ever done. Yes <hes> <hes>. I'm like wow you it's as if you're like hearing something being read on paper like yeah yetter. Where did you grow up on like on t._v. <hes> some of my favorite shows like power rangers have like a pair on your tattoo on my body. Stop the time right here in a very pretty fun ranger yeah which ranger specific related to billion zach zach because he was black and he danced while he and i was like wow what a game <hes> <hes> and then billy because he was a guy and <hes> he was an i remember like looking up his story and like david. I think his name's david jost <hes> <hes> he was pretty much a victim of homophobia like on the set and i just remember eating that being like wow how relatable i i get you a plus. He was like the nerd so i really related to the blue and black grainger and then when the new movie came out they swapped so like the black person became the blue ranger and then the black ranger was an asian man and i thought that was cool. People say that the movie was surprisingly good. Make another one yes. I wanted to be in and and i had an audition with the guy that became the ranger like a couple of months ago and i remember looking at him. Like how dare you still my dream. <music> power power anders the maniacs was like a big proponent in my comedy should me i. I was like oh. This is a great sketch show for kids and it was like fantastic. Hey great parodies. It was just like i was never a fan of like humans kamins because as a little like we're who like constantly like oh i'm different. There was not a lot of people that i was like oh. I'm like them and cartoons was was they were closer to like who i felt like i was so like a lot of my friends are like oh i watch like s._n._l. And comedy specials and i was like gross child these people talk so yeah. It was a lot of cartoons win. What how did you get started performing in high school i so when when i was in middle school i was bullied pretty heavily and then when i was like i'm going to recreate myself and football player because i was like football players on t._v. Are are popular than i was. A football player and i was like this is too much. Stop hitting me. This is aggressive. I hate this so then. I became a dancer and i drove a school dance team team. At that point. I was like oh this is too gay not ready and then i found improv and my improv coach was also the director to the musicals and she was like you should do this and i was like okay <hes> and then she convinced me to audition for a conservatory program and i kind of like started my career journey. I was blindsided by this white woman who i've believe a year and i was like girl. I'll do what you say then i did and now <hes> <hes> started doing comedy nice. What were the shows that you did. My first show was bye bye birdie mr magazi- <hes> a lot of my okay because i was not good and then the next year i got better and i was <hes> the baker in into the woods on an ice late that row it was great and then my favorite shows car insurance companies and i just came i was walking down my haw and that was i don't wanna go home and walked into this room because it was very loud and they were like talking and cannot be a part of this and the lady was like jeweler and i just started as a helper and then as people would like drop about they would give me their parts and by the end of the play i have like my own like short play and that's when i was like oh i can do this and that was like a very pivotal moment a- and so now that you're in a writer's room. Are you able to carve out time for your own other stuff to barreling. It's very difficult just because you don't know well i. I don't know when i'm going to leave so i try to book a show and then if it's eight thirty in suddenly i'm at work at eight fifteen mike fuck. I now have to cancel not. I want to be that person. That's constantly cancelling shows so she's harder to book shows so the shows that i due book tend to be later and then because work is so long. I usually don't want to go to answer. Is this like your personnel and so it was like week to week. I'm like okay what can actually physically do and so that's that's harder but <hes> i mean it's worth it to be making money because they didn't have a couple of months ago and i was very poor. I tweeted something about getting. This job happened in a really strange way. Oh it was so i found like i started watching brooklyn nine earlier this year. I was like oh. I've heard a lot about this show. I should start watching it so i started watching tweeted about. It like yeah this shells great. Nobody told me the show is great. Show what a great show <hes> and then my manager called me like hey <hes> yeah the interview brooklyn nine and and i started laughing she was like why are you laughing and i was like i let us show. I was just talking about it on twitter. She was agai- reggie pilot and they liked it so i go into meet. The creator showrunner was the the same person and i talked and i remember the first thing i said was like oh. I don't know why people that much or cops but i love show y'all do some great. This is great living at his job and then they were like sure and then when i got it i posted on twitter like hey i literally was just talking about the show. Now i'm working dough and everybody it was like wow did you get this from twitter and i was like no i got it because they were my pilot but the timing of it just was crazy so yeah people were like oh oh did that. Tweet simply turned into people were like wow twitter really as magical and i was like sure not in this. There's a lot that what happened out outside of actual work involved but <hes> yeah the sharon and do like follow me cable school nice. I love that let me have this job is definitely going to be in my next job interview every any i've never had. I've just like at the end when i do. I do you have any questions on my can. The have this i gotta understand it works great. I'm i'm inspired yeah. I am going to start planning when you use it <hes>. What are you listening to you. Ooh currently i am listening to a lot of. I just went on some guy. I don't know how to pronounce his name like hamas lolo zoo you. Do i use that <hes>. I think she's french. She's this french girl who makes great r._&_b. Music <hes> she's fantastic. I listen to a lotta data jon bellion <hes> he's great <hes> who else are granting her. She's always rotation. <hes> ah i i was a fan of her for a very long time when she was in thirteen. The musical and i used to watch her on youtube and i met her new york ones. She was just like very nice. We we just <hes> it was the fourth of july and my her mother and she was like yeah. What are you doing on the fourth and we just like talked on us. I walk it was like before. She was like super famous. She's huge like very normal and she took a picture and i remember just like what what did show lou lady <hes> hermes gray and because she was nice to meet in person i i was like i'll be at van that she's got you for life. Yeah who are your all time favorites like janet jackson just because like as a performer i think she's great to watch like the scream video of one of the best videos i've ever seen <hes> i. I really just like musicals in general listen to a lot of musicals. I'm just a yelling and i listened to waitress. Ally i think sarah relics so talented and a friend of mine to a wedding and they were at at the same table and she told me she was very nice. If people tell me people who are in real life. I tend to like their music more. Oh you deserve my phantom nice and she was a great in. She's fantastic. I i have a rotating like sank back. She was like the classic like ninety s boy bands assuring like girl. I love that period of music. I know all the choreography <hes> boys to men i didn't i like refound them recently because i downloaded their best of album and they really were like singing singing like they were like really singing and that's just not <hes> there's not a lot of male like singing groups anymore and they were just like seeing in the house down and i was obsessed. <hes> and meringue ron carey you remember like latest album is fantastic. She has a song called. No this is like no. I said no no and she says it like our data and french. No no i i am. She's so in on the joke herself in one way now and she's like a personality now. She's like i know who i am. This is a bit that i will now perpetuate my we'll deliver it over and over again as she gives the gays what they want. Dwayne you do not need to name names but we're talking about nice people earning your phantom and respect throughout life. Has anyone not been nice and lost your phantom and respect throughout life. Yeah i mean since we're not saying name but there's been like just like from famous regular people. I just don't have have a time or energy to deal with negative or insecure people because i'm very confident and how did this happen. I do not know but there came a point where i was like. If you don't believe relieving yourself then like what are we doing. This is like you have one life. A negative stigma being self centered which i think is stupid because like if everybody it was self centered everybody would mind their business in the world would be great. Some just like yeah just like focus on yourself like be a good person like figure like unpack your shit. If you have shit unpack it because you shouldn't put that on other people <hes> and i really have a couple of friends breakup where i was like. Oh you're not a good person so we can't be friends because i don't need that energy <hes> be there are now like thinking famous person that i'm so i had i was in my. I did <hes> just for last couple of weeks ago and i was in montreal and i was like for the final party. It was like a netflix like big party. Now was wearing like a fluorescent yellow green like jumpsuit that was very bright and i walk into the party and another person walks out and look at me and they look me up and down say that was a choice. I just walk away and i was like okay did <music> before this happened. It was whose work i was like. Oh like this person does good work and i was like jesus. Christ raised well. Why don't we take a break so you can name names only right back and we're back with doing that was a great though some really really good t- about angelina jolie uh-huh. She's always been a monster <hes> so you were talking about how we all have to unpack our shit. It's now unpack. Your shit got so much back just full of shit. What's happening currently in your life. <hes> i have a boyfriend. It's long distance since we are figuring out how to re united. He lives in chicago where i used to live <hes> and he owns a place. They say he's trying to sell so that he can move here because i have to be here and i wanna be a landlord yeah. It's great now. It did not used to be great is is great. Now we found a place of peace <hes> and because i work quite a bit it works for my schedule for him to like not be around then when he comes here and like visits with my dope. Can you concentrated like week and a half and then he leaves mike back to the bag. I have to focus on like my career and he's folks in on hayes so they're like it works for this moment but when i was in new york it did not work like the long distance so it's been going on for a long time yeah well we like broke out for a while and then we got back together like last mike august july august yeah. He's some someone that i knew since i was like younger so we have history where we were like. Friends got together then. We broke up. We get back together. <hes> so there's a lot of history but we've grown because i feel like when when i first got with him was we were like teenagers and i was like oh i'm i am. I don't know who i am and then we got to a point where i was like. Oh i've been with you for a large part of my youth and i don't know who i am without you and this is not gonna work like identity was and so once we broke up we had time to like create our own identities and we got together and we were like oh. Who were you now then. He was like were were you now then we had to like refigure out who were and now the dynamic is us. Constantly checking is great run saint page and if not we're like. We don't have to do this because we now know what. It feels like to be apart and we're like oh. It's not it's bad because we love each other but it's not an impossible thing. If i don't be with you i will still survive so now that we've experienced that they this new lower stakes because we're like yeah. This could be over at any any moment. We've experienced that so now we just like live this relationship with the transparency of relationships all the time but if we're enjoying this in in this moment and we both agree that we're enjoying this keep it going and that's what he's been. That's been this is fun for now great. If this continues to be fun we'll be together together forever and if not then we won't so there is an end in sight. We just don't know when and how how soon it's coming to the distance yes <hes> <hes>. He told me yesterday that he got an offer on his place so it might be selling soon and he should be out here sooner but you know i don't. I don't really i have expectations stations of anything or anyone into happen so if it happens dope and if it doesn't whatever and don't answer this it's too intrusive. But how does it work in terms of like monogamy when you're apart this much we're monogamous is it was pretty much like me and just like a lot of jerk enough. <hes> i bought a flesh is this too and that is <hes> a crazy invention. Wow <hes> i had this stand up because they had like a mouth on one end and then a vagina on the end when it first spider i was like i can't use the vagina <unk> because like what if i like it and i become mike straight again because i was like what if this feels like vagina and his great and i use the it does so great so now i'm bisexual and then when he comes to visit we just have sex a lot but because i'm like a busy people really don't give jerking off enough like credit. It's great. It's fun. It's easy feels great like i do. It and i go to bed bed and there's not like this looming lake. That should have been a person now. My hand was great. I have to talk to a person and what he's there. May oh sexist great to like you can do you them. Both but there's i don't have this like growing desire to have sex with other people because i don't like interacting with other people and if i have to ask doc finest drain they i barely like small talks to find a stranger in like have sex with them. Like how are we gonna do this. I don't have the bandwidth to be like oh. I like that oh. I don't like that that if they do something weird or like i don't want no you have and i went through a whole face. I know what it is and when <hes> <hes> we broke up that first time and i was like oh i'm single and i was like going make being single and i was like oh. This is trash like you meet people like they were just like things as i forgot. I'd make out with someone and be like oh. You're bad at kissing. Everybody is not good at this. I don't have time. There's no like checklists. How do i know that this is going to be fun because sex is we're like it's a weird thing. We're like you're physically inside of another person and i don't want to do that with like everybody and me and him have like such goods excised interest very late show and we know we want. I don't feel the need right now to have like outside people but who knows in the future we might have that conversation by has a right now like where we are now. We're like oh. This is like this works and because is the the sexual energy that i would be using. I just put it into my work which allows mates like progress quicker because i like have that passion but just for something else then when their passion translate sex say guy or go jerk off gotta release the pressure he do a really <hes> releases uses endorphins. It has a similar effect of like we you're like oh. My life feels a little bit better. It sounds like you you were as i was like a very obviously gay kid <hes> so was coming out anti-climactic in a way it was and it wasn't like there were a lot a lot of moments in my life where like it was clear that i was gay and my family would just be like we're just not gonna talk about this ever again and then when i came out i was beat because of that. I was like oh. They're going to ignore any like incense gayness so i was like they're going to disown man then. When i came out they were like yeah we know. We just didn't like want to like not like think that this is true but they were like yeah. Whatever so now we're like oh fight like my little sister came out like a couple of years ago and everybody was like girl. We did this and she was. She was pressed because she was like oh. This is now. I wanted there to be a bigger deal and i was like oh say that happened with me. I took that's coming out with like hard but a lot easier than i thought it would. It'd be because my family was like there and because i had mentally got to the point where i was like. I'm going to be by myself. I became so like almost like an angry way where i was like. I'm going to be as aggressively as possible so to force you to take it in and so there was like a period of that were ah back. I'm gay everybody get with it now. Micro is not that big a deal cares but in order to make it not a big deal. You have to make a big deal for us. Is i had to be like. I'm going to bring everybody into every event. We're going to act like a straight couple. I'm going to ask exactly like like a straight person would but with my gayness yeah <hes> <hes> but yeah just like as a person now just like a lot more chill and so now though didn't think i needed to come out like the rest of my family came out to like i hi sisters and my parents and the rest of the family. I was like you'll find out when i when you find out so a lot of them are like extended family just would be like which is like happened when upon being gay like oh here's his gay thing and then being like what your game even care what yeah whoa oh. How was it emotionally to here. We know from your family. It was like a gag make thunder bitch but ah i mean they were like obvious moments like my sisters like found gabriel too many situations to where i was like i i got up in this situation so i knew that they knew i didn't know what they how they would feel so when we know i that cool and what is your feelings after that and they're like yeah you're you're the same person just say some some of them. Were like well. Don't be bringing it around my kids and then they got better with that because i was like it doesn't does i'm going to. I don't know what you want from me but i do. I feel like my being gay changed the perspective of gayness in my family 'cause i knew they did have a very <hes> close my view on gayness. That's a very big thing within the it's. It's not very big but i was growing up. That was the thing where i grew up. Where gain is not a thing gayness and black missions didn't really mesh yeah and so i knew that that that was a thing that i will be fighting and then because i was getting still the same person so during the exact same thing still thriving they were like oh well. Maybe gay people are okay okay and i was like yeah obviously was that a conflict within yourself as well as you would alluded to not quite being ready when you were in the world of dance yes ask because i i knew that people treated gay people so i was like i'm okay with being gay. I'm not okay with being mistreated and i was like if me being open about being gay. He is going to give me mistreated out just like wait. I don't have to do this within this environment because i know that my life is not high school so i was constantly being like okay. If i in the closet for like this year high school would that i at least i won't be like bullied by these people. I constantly know that i'm i'm accepting of who i damn. I just can't be with these barbarian so i would just like be who i am when i'm in a space where i feel safe to do it and then by seeing a year. I was like five ninety. <hes> where in the country was chicago did you were you dating girls in school. Well i was i had a girlfriend for two years to yeah and we were lake having so much sex. That's one thing i would say about like being straight. Sex was just. It's like easier because you had you had. Let's tools to use like leave and say ooh naturally lubricant. That's fun <hes> so we were like have sex like bathrooms was like that part was fun but it was always like me being like something feels off. I'm like this action is fine but i wish this was someone which which is like terrible because like that girl i really loved it was like she was one of my best friends. <hes> as i hear smashing cat was is <hes>. I was really committed to that role of me. I'm straight but it was crazy because i was trying so hard and people were like no. You're not sounds like yeah yeah. You're right so then. When was your first experience with a guy <hes> it was the summer after after my senior year so i it was with my girlfriend and to my senior year i came out the end of senior year like after prom and then my that summer was the first musical i did outside of school and it was west side story and my the my very first boyfriend he was a shark and i was a jet and it was just the first relationship we had our first kiss during the movie hancock very on the news <hes> and he's a great and then i went to college alleged and we were like okay. This is not gonna work. We're in different places but <hes> yeah like it was like that. Summer was like the beginning of my whole face 'cause. I was like oh oh. I'm like now like an openly gay man. I mean college for the first time it was. I was like free and then i like crazy. I was like all right. Pull out the pull back dwayne like year ho face thank my college and how so. How were you meeting guys then. Dan just like walking down the street. We locked eyes for too long. You must begin now. I'm just gonna follow you. There was a cruiser face and i didn't know what it was until i knew what it was and i was like oh my god scandalous yeah. There's a bathroom phase. It was just me. Would you be like where can i find any kind of action <hes> and then by the time the apps came out. I was like already and like relationships chefs are not like really into it and so i've never been like a huge user of apps or are they said by the time the apps came out. I was like oh well abs- do after the apps. I think we had to let you go. Everyone's bagging. You had to go to work. Oh boy work. The precinct calls now. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. This is fine ah.

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HR 3: Irrational Fears

Mason & Ireland

41:27 min | 3 months ago

HR 3: Irrational Fears

"We love our dogs. My dog took over earlier today. One was not here. So i was trying to babysit the dogs as well as i could and i did not do well. That is my way of getting their attention. Hey guys guys. So so. John charles barkley last night on tnt. They were doing the was it. The denver denver got blown out again by phoenix. I last right right and so they did a bit where they snuck up on charles barkley and play play this. I'll describe it. Somebody sneaks started with the guarantee. Okay go do all the bells and whistles. When he doesn't guarantee button yes so he does the guarantee and then somebody sneaks up behind him with a snake hit office. Do those charles. Barkley terrified his greatest fear. Snakes now tell you that that is a common greatest fear right. My mom we used to have a A rubber snake. Just a made up. Pretend snake and we'd set it on. My dad had a boat. We'd set it on the boat and the idea would be. The snake would keep birds away so we would get that rover snake and we'd go around my mom with an and she would freak out just at the at the site of the rubber snake let alone real snakes john. What is your most irrational fear. Your most irrational fear. Hello yes i got you so y- just dropped out for a second. What is your most irrational fear while snakes is right there yeah i also think that i would absolutely freak out if i saw a shark. Yeah i think after jaws. I was really freaked out. And i've never seen one live but if i saw a shark would snakes or short it'd be one of two which yours we'll sharks. I really have an irrational fear. I mean when. I was a little kid after i saw jaws. I had images of that shark coming up when i was in our family swimming pool. I mean i was just terrified even to be in water not even ocean water. And i don't swim in the ocean it despite the fact where i live and where i've lived mostly because you've always lived so close to it. Yeah i mean. I've always lived here and yet i will not go in the ocean. Because of that. And then there was this drone footage that they showed a couple of weeks ago where they send a drone out around some surfers and there were baby white sharks everywhere surrounding them. People are so much closer to the sharks in california than they think. They are so the drones. The drones student attract the sharks. They just highlighted that. The charges were closed right. The drones would fly over and you could see where the sharks were compared to where the surfers were and man they were right there. They were right there. That was a freakout moment. I will definitely never go out in the ocean anymore. So mike smith who for years did. The clipper games in the utah. Jazz games yeah. You just sent me a text. How about being late to a game. You're calling oh. I leave so early that i never really run up against that but i did have one time this year when we were calling the games from the studio where there was an accident on the on the one ten right and i thought if they shut down the one ten i wouldn't make it was like a seven o'clock tip and it was maybe five when the one ten wasn't moving but if they shut down the freeway i'm dead. I can't go backwards. So i mean that would that would. When i was a kid. I used to have a fear of that. I overslept for a test. You ever have that Oh yeah. I've had that one mr test community but now as i'm older i really wouldn't care what about you mind would be heights. I'm not a big fan of heights. Yeah i mean. It's weird. Because i used to have this recurring dream where i got trapped on the top of a roller coaster and i used to love rollercoasters much when i was a kid but then as i got older and i started realizing or at least thinking to myself i to this thing at any moment and i z leeson. I actually did get trapped at the top of a roller coaster. Oh wow the right stopped. And they had to basically set up a bunch of ladders and they came and got everybody off the right waiting at the mgm. Why would be waiting up there. I i wouldn't be able to get the ladder. No way i would be shaking no way i would probably have to get some firemen to come and get you horry. What about you. Irrational fear spiders up there with snakes. Spiders snakes yeah yeah. I'm not afraid of snakes. Snakes dope me spiders. Don't bother me like around here if we see a bug. I'm the one that gets the bug. I don't care. I don't care no. There's a spider go get it. She's like are you killing. Go do whatever you have to. Just get it out of the room. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn irrational fear. You know. I had a nightmare last night. I told lindsey this. I wasn't sure if i was gonna tell it on the air but i had a irrational fear last night in a nightmare jew ever watched the am pm commercials to thomas tomb guest. How he is no clue that was he showed up. He says a nightmare last night. Whom guess knows the tune kizer tangus. Gs too much good stuff. It's supposed to be. Oh that's what thomas tomb gets it whom guess yeah. He was in a nightmare last night. He's freaky. He's got like roles for hands and hot dogs for fingers and he's made up of candy bars. Layers are are also. His hair is like liquorice. It's like if you buy this. Yeah anthony as one of our listeners. Since tweet i have three friends who are afraid of clowns. My sister's deathly afraid of clowns terrified of clowns. Oh yeah she. If you try to put like a clown she won't watch any movies with clowns in it if you try to put like a clown dollar something like in a room while she's sleeping absolutely not chewed freak out and start crying. She's terrified of them. Clones a lot of people on my creepy anna. She she's from altoona. She has these clown glass clown figurines all over her living room. It is like a crazy weird circus. Funhouse she's probably got ten of them in her living room. They are awful. Clowns are awful clowns and well. I just don't like mimes i was gonna say i was gonna clue clouds and minds but mimes don't scare me mimes stupid. I hope not offending any stupid stupid minds are stupid. I get it. You're walking against wind. Look in a box. I'm in a glass box. Get it no know tongue. Us know tune. Gus literally showed up in a nightmare last night because it is a creepy character. I mean i. I don't know if am pm advertiser. But i would lay off the tomb gets a little bit. That's creeping people out. Have you him when he kinda tuned. Just kind of looks like justin turner so if you sat one with human justin turner. My daughter is two years old and everytime turned at bash. She says look and does she really does because together. That's great yeah. They are in those commercials together by the way if you want to call in on that eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn i. i saw that. It's either tonight or two or maybe it's this weekend. That lamar odom is going to fight. One of the carters. No oh nick carter right i one of the carters one of those singers either knows or aaron carter. The one who's got the what he's a trainwreck. He's a complete train wreck so wait a minute. Is that backstreet boys. Or yes back his little brother. The nick carter is in backstreet. Boys aaron carter is his little brother. He had that song that was like people around the house. Come get it. It was a terrible like stupid pop song. That was only song. I i can remember at least anyway. Bectu boys little brother okay. So this fight happening now. And i don't know how to feel as you guys know. Show i love lamar odom. I know he's had problems. I know people are gonna come back and meet saying you know. He's done a lot. He's had a tough life. But i think people are very very empathetic towards lamar. Okay so if. I'm in that close this weekend. It's taking place. It's a three round. Pay per view fight in atlantic city Chuck ladele the celebrity referee. I think this is a terrible idea for odem. Why is that like why. Can't we talk him out of this. He's got to be twice. The size of eric carter by the way right. But he's almost died a couple of years ago his heart stopped. I hate this idea am i. Am i being a killjoy. Here no no. I don't want to see people. I like in these celebrities tomorrow night. The main card starts at six. Our time and odem is expected to go into the ring at about eight. Thirty and after seeing Aaron carter posting stuff on instagram. Like of himself sparring. I think that this is I don't think that lamar adams in any trouble. Let's just say that you don't know what if he gets lucky in. I don't think that's going to happen. Because a he's literally half the size you stack to erin carter's on top of each other to get to lamar odom and watching him. Try to spar like this guy. Looks like my ten year old nephew trying to spark someone who is actually a orange belt in karate so my my ten year old nephew could probably be aaron. carter I hope we still don't like it. Hope for the best. Let's go to james and ventura. He's got an irrational fear. James around seven ten. Espn what are you doing man. What's up guys how you doing today. Good what are you scared. My irrational fear is on enough car washes but specifically ones with big rotating brushes. The kid i since. I since a kid i had like i used to freak out anytime. My parents tried to go through the car. Wash with the big brushes. And i can go through now but there's definitely still a little bit of like Yeah that's a weird one. That's a weird when i get it. I mean you're claustrophobic. And you got these gigantic brushes and heaters and all that stuff lawn at your so. Yeah i get that i get that it's a. It's an interesting one. I've never heard that cute fear of car wash. I wonder if that even as a name. I don't think so. I'd interestingly enough. My little sister's also afraid of car washes. Is that right seriously. Oh yeah my dad used to take us through them. When we were little kids we we'd go to my grandma's every weekend and he takes the car washing she lots. There's laugh okay. I just can't i just got this. There is a name for fear of car washes. It is auto plant phobia auto phobia. That's an actual fear. So they're okay. What's your irrational fear. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn eight seven. Seven seven ten espn. We'll get some calls in here coming up next for you mason and ireland seventeen. Espn i by the way. Have you heard the sleep and travel. Show sure excellent show after you play around golfer. You're driving home listening to the travis leash o- normally they're opt by then the yeah. I drive home between eleven and twelve. I got golf question coming up for you but first. We're talking about irrational fears. Let's go to arthur. Into luca. Lake arthur through on seven ten. Espn what are you doing. Man are you guys doing good good. What's your irrational fear. Mine is weird and no one ever believe me. It's it's the fear and foley of jewelry Now that my my kind of freaked out by it. I'm i'm disgusted by like why. Where does that conference. I have no idea my parents said. Ever since i was two or three i never want anything around my neck and and and it and it just disgusts me. I can't wear bracelets. Can't wear rings I can't wear anything around me. And in fact when i went about art. What about if other people have jewelry on Yeah no bad. it's bad. I i can't i can't have anyone around like for example you guys interviewed my brother. Actually use their meeting kid gary. Tv and he likes wearing his chains out and stuff. Yeah and and and i tell them if he's around me he needs to put it in. Because if i see it he's not my brother any more. Like what do you do if you go to the movies and a woman with a lot of jewelry sits down next to you. Well for the first first thing that happens is i immediately notice it like my awareness levels drop like just rise up like crazy. It's kinda like spidey senses almost If i could avoid sitting next to her. I would. But if not then i tried not to look at it anymore. Not definitely not touch. It got interesting. I've got interested news for you. Arthur fear of jewelry is referred to as emma phobia cosmic phobia. So you are not alone in this fear of jewelry. Google that dale earnhardt. Jr. apparently is another one. That's like the most famous person that has it Yeah it freaks me out and i it is the thing. Yeah i didn't even know. It was until i googled it all right. Hey arthur thanks very much phone call. We appreciate it guys. Grecia fear fear of jewelry by the way everything that that people have. There's a name for everyone of these fierce. Hey take that. Call from sean online. Seven in orange county sean. You're on seventeen. Espn heyman guys going. Good so what's yours flying big time all right so you can't get on a plane you're like john madden you. Won't you won't fly anywhere. I can get on a plane but it's not gonna be fun for me. I don't wanna say ruins trips. But it's definitely up. There is a de big buzzkill but i m friends that are pilots of may just say they always try and calm down but now it doesn't work so what do you. What do you do when you've got to fly somewhere Sometimes i get a little cocktail and kinda wind down and trying and myself would it be okay and then yeah just kind of fight through it. But sean i got a tip for you yeah ambien. If you take one and you'll be out in ten minutes you'll wake up you'll be in the next town of dr ireland is prescribing. Ambien for you need a script ireland. Come on he needs a script. Can you give them a script for the nba. That's awesome that's awesome. Thanks sean. that's awesome and go to brian in corona brian around seventeen. Espn hey what's up. Two guys administrator steve hill. I'm a little bit because we watched every dodger game with my two year old son and when it comes on three him out he loses his mind and what started to happen is just in terms and one of the commercials. Yup turn you get nervous too so the topic is going to show up. They do a close What they so. He's afraid when he sees justin turner he's afraid tomb guest is going to show up. That's exactly the end yet so now and we love. jt's probably my favorite daughter but yeah just flips out and he'd up trying to feel better than i know. Thank for yet but my two year old is in your court all right x. tomb gas-phobia. We'll call that tumor. Thanks for the call appreciate it. Yeah the tomb thing. I don't know i'd rethink that. If i was an pm wait a minute. It's working perfectly. we're talking about yup. We're not talking about it in a good way. Are they an advertiser. Anybody know are they. Sponsor am pm. Let's go to brian on in yorba linda online. Eight brian. yeah hey. What's your irrational fear. Driving in convertible interesting. That start. So when i was growing up we had the five freeway in our backyard and we could see over the six foot wall and there was like every employee every other week but like co like frequently there would be accidents where involved a convertible and the driver that they would be no head there so it was traumatizing. Event cars going underneath big rigs and stuff and so Yeah i don't get in a convertible. I friend picked tries to pick me up and i. I won't get in it. So you would not get in a convertible. No matter what no matter what i know. Yeah now cannot do some bad news for you here. There is no name for fear of convertibles. It doesn't make convertible phobia about that. We'll we'll run convertible say thanks manpreet. Yeah i there's not much that share sharks are really the one thing that scares me. Otherwise fearless guy. Yeah i'm a pretty fearless guy. Let's go to kevin in chino hills. Kevin you're on seventeen. Espn what he doing. Stay guys how you doing. Long time listener. Thank you and we appreciate you so my fear. Ever since i was a baby has been birch cannot do birds at all. No they're everywhere. Yeah yeah and it's especially downtown. Beirut they'll be like ten fifteen feet away from me flying and i'll still flint downtown birds. What do you mean. Birds downtown knows just birth in general but the downtown birds. Those are a whole different breed than just normal birds. 'cause school what's different tune irregular burden in downtown pigeons like like pigeons. Yeah but just. The birds are downtown. They like to play chicken with you. And i. i don't know if they just feel the fear coming off of me. I swear they're like making a straight beeline for me. And i'll just flinch and they just turn as soon as i point and it's like downtown. Birds are much bolder than much bolder much. Well i've got good news for you kevin. It has a name. It's ernie with phobia. No i i swear to. God i wonder if the phobia is it. It's totally the name off. So you have that thing man and it's got a name so you're not. You're not all that on all that weird. Hey thanks for calling appreciate it so you know it has a name. Virtually everything has a name. Every fear like name. Name of the fear of sharks is called. It's called galea phobia or selena phobia. I think you just making craft. No i swear to god fears. This fear keeps people from swimming in the ocean. Galea phobia or sell achievable of potatoes. Fear of potatoes wait. Why are you afraid of potatoes. i make up. it is pot number phobia except 'tatoes. Now we know it is of lead fear of we'd yes cafo fear of obviously i have none fear of cannabis blah blah. Nope doesn't have a name right. Yeah you'd think who's afraid of cannabis really you lay on the couch. I mean maze. Let's be serious. Someone just called and said that they're afraid of convertibles. You'd never expect that you would never fear for everything car. Wash fear of tomb get scooped is the fear of guys. I don't forget we got game games coming up for you in fifteen minutes lindsay. What's the what's the game gives us a little preview. I'm not going to tell you. Because i don't wanna give anyone any advantages on studying. Yeah cheaters google though the strikes afraid of google. What is that called fear of google. I'm sure it's got a name. Winning he fear of winning fear of success. Fear of success yet doesn't have a name. I'm not afraid to win john. The thing about the games the stupid games we do the end. Is there just stupid games. They're guessing games correct. I g- f man. But when we're playing jeopardy i will continue to kick your ass. You cannot be unbeatable in jeopardy and to me that's a measure of true intellect Lindsay would you not agree. Jeopardy is a measure true intellect. I would not. I think i think we would need this larger. Yeah we need a larger sample size like went head to head an actual game of jeopardy like a real one with both rounds and the daily doubles and they did it on the actual show then. I think that the era. I would kick the snot out of them. Kicked us not out of new play. Gay the one thing they say about me super smart super smart coming up next john. Something's making her comeback. And it's about time that is coming up next for you mason in ireland seven ten. Espn hey what's up games in fifteen minutes down you. It's gonna come back all the sudden with that. The mullet no. Yeah we actually saw not lindsey. What actress now has a mullet or do is it demi levato demi levato has won hers like super long in the back and miley cyrus. Has one really have mullets. Let's face it. What about an every major league baseball pitcher are they not mullets. There's golfers they're bringing him back. But i don't think it's going to become a thing again. I grew up on mullets man. I think mullets should make a comeback. They're so cool. And so retro. Yeah you do you think so. Yeah now you got silver hair. A silver hair mullet avi dope maze. Think it would be funny combat it. That's what you like. You like being talked about so. It'd be good good in the picture on instagram. Silver bullet give give linear on. Would you would you guys do them. Would you grata mullet. Everybody had one and that was just like like women with skinny jeans like eventually. I always said. I'd never buy skinny jeans back when they became popular but initially got to the point where that's all they made with skinny jeans and i had to to wear them so if you to styling hairstyle like the mullet where everyone acknowledged you grow one. Know if everybody's doing it. I'm just i'm like trevor bauer. I'm going to do it to. Let's do it together menu. Okay me and we're going to grow mullet. But i'm serious. Yeah oh you're my my nephew. My nephew who's ten. He's big into like what does he do. The twitch thing we're like. He plays his games online and stuff. So i think he's the younger. They are getting younger younger these days but he gets into these trends and he wants to wear he wants to guatemala and my sister's like absolutely not but he's ten and he's like begging grata mullet real really unders harm in it. Well my sister doesn't want him to because she thinks a hideous and be my brother's getting married this summer and she she doesn't want him to catch wedding the wedding. Yeah i mean i grew up with. We all had mullets. When i was growing up. Ireland did you ever lived in texas. I wasn't really a full mullet though it need to share pictures. Yeah what if. I have one yellow picture of a look pleasant but i think it would be disappointing to you guys. I had longer hair in the back but should be here. You're throwback thursday pictures you in a mullet. God i got. I have to go find it. You have tough. I'm the keeper of all the. I've got every family picture that exists. And you have to have a picture of you in a mullah especially if your your radio dj days that when you had it. I had a president. Bush famous mullet. Would it be like john daly. Who is the famous selling his pretty famous. I'm thinking like patrick swayze. The very first thing. I think of joe dirt. And that's a good one news. A fictional billy ray cyrus. Yeah billy. that's a good one by the way being joe dirt. That was david spade right. All right. do you see chris. Harrison is out as the bachelor dat paid is one of the. I don't understand what chris harrison did. He showed no awareness of that. Remember okay so you remember the girl that Basically got run off the bachelor because she participated in a blow right one of these plantations and they ask harrison about it and he goes. I don't think she did. I think we should show some compassion. I really don't think she did anything wrong. And all of the black people that were affiliated with the bachelor went. Wow corsairs just doesn't get it. And then he said he was going to take some time off and the thing snowballed and now he's out. Yeah been spayed though. That's a really really weird guy to replace them well. Apparently he watches the bachelor. Any friends with mike fleiss the guy who created okay okay. So what should they have done with chris harrison. Well i don't know if. I hate cancelling anybody. I don't know if it required him being gone off the show. But i think that such a hot button issue with them right now with the bachelor about minority minority representation and showing more than just all white people that having a white male host was probably not the best thing anymore. Yeah but they're still going to have a white male david. That's what they one of several people that it's going to have a rotating hosts of okay got it. Yeah i like. That's really weird to hire david spade. Because he's like low very low brow comedy and the make the bachelor out to bailing david garcia. Very good just tweeted most famous. It has to be the baas. Brian basel. Yes that's a great one. That's a great one. Yeah no i i don't. I don't know what to do with people like chris harrison. I really don't think. I didn't think he deserves lose his job over but apparently he's going to get paid a ridiculous financial settlement because he threatened to law sorts of controversy knows all their secrets. And those all the stuffs buried so they're going to pay him off too so he got a big jack in a nondisclosure agreement right so who do you have. You started watching. The new season. Didn't start like this week. Yeah i it's only been on once. I didn't watch. Is it. the girl bachelor or the bachelor girl is the bachelorette and all the girl is the bad handler. Remember we win. Oh you weren't here. You're on vacation. Of course we went through. John went through all of the the names of jobs like the occupations of the manslaughter in these guys are basically professional reality show contests. Are they really. They don't have. Oh no and the jobs. They came up with two so they could say they did. Something for a living were hilarious. They're all budget struggling actors. It was very. is that what it is. Is that what the bachelor is a bunch of struggling actors going on there. What it yeah narrow trying to get on bachelor in paradise they should do. They should do it with just millionaires. They did that but remember millionaire. You don't have to go on the bachelor. There are plenty of millionaires. one attention. Remember the reality show. That was like before the bachelor. I think it was called joe millionaire and it was concept of the bachelor but the guy was a millionaire but he actually in real life wasn't really a millionaire. All contestants just thought he was he was nine girls lined up. Yeah he was not a millionaire and then you waited to find out if the girl he chose would stay with her once. She found out that he wasn't he was like a construction worker. I'm pretty sure that that didn't work out. That did not work out. Those showers the end. That was the end she was. She was attracted by his financial balances personality personality. Exactly exactly right. Didn't marcellus go on one of those shows. He went on the millionaire matchmaker. Ray and patty with patty and pat came to the station. What yeah they shot. They shot station. She was yelling at us in the hallway. Really choose me. She was tough. She was tough. She was mean and marcellus didn't end up dating that girl at all like he broke up with her and then he went and got married to somebody else. Yeah i think all that stuff is is hokum. I don't believe in those relationships that come out of those shows have any of them lasted or is every single one of them ended. I think they are like four out of one hundred. Four people four couples show together and like fifty. People didn't work so most of the time they don't work not not a good place to seek a relationship the bachelorette or the bachelor Coming up next for you is game of games in his lindsay's game today. She said she doesn't want to spoil it so we will find out what her game is coming up next for you. Mason and ireland seven ten. Espn our dogs and his game of game. Time and it is lindsay's game wins what we got going on. So i try and come up with some new ideas and that we've never done before and i know you guys did the did. Pretty well with the racehorse owner artist. So i decided to do a similar game and this one is dodger's minor leaguer or espn employees. Okay so i'm going to give you guys a name and you're gonna tell me if that person is a a player on the minor league system or if they work for. Espn pre simple right. Yup are. let's see. I've got one. I've got like fourteen fifteen fourteen in the east. Okay so yeah we'll start with. You may the first name is jake. Vogel is jake vogel a dodgers minor leaguer or an espn boy. Sounds like an espn employees to me. Okay ireland. i'll say it's a dodger. All right or something dodger. You'll be glad you did. Because jake vogel is an outfielder for the single a affiliate which is right now. Let's dodger so sinclair affiliate rancho cucamonga. Yeah okay i know. They just changed one of them this year. All right so airland on the board number two. Jimmy lewis is jimmy lewis a dodger or an espn employees ireland. Jimmy lewis now are these. Espn la employees or just aren't espn. Well i didn't. I made it a little less random whereas there people that i've seen on email chains with us so they have some relation to us. Oh okay. I've never seen jimmy lewis on espn email dodgers. Okay what do you think okay mason. I'll say i'll say dodgers and you'll be glad you did. because jimi lewis is a right handed. Pitcher for the single a rancho cucamonga. Ireland is two for two for hey and mason both have won number three nuno to shera just like arctic shit to shera spelled the same. Hey is that. Pin employees or a dodger nice espn. Alright ireland unanimous. We would have. We heard another player in the dodgers. Ation called tisch share. That's espn year right. And you know helps us get the nfl guests for ourselves. Associate producer goes so well. Right radii stephen. A smith no. His wife is starting now. Yeah all right next one. We're back to mace. Mace is santa burrito a youth get employees or a dodger. What do you think. Sure some fanta burrito. I'm going to say that's an espn employees. All right ireland. No way that has to be a baseball. I'm going to mason's rights. Santa rita is director of communications and. Espn yeah she works with the anime in boxing. So that's mason three ireland three and hor hey to right. We're all in it. All right next one ireland. Jake reed is jake reed or an espn and boy. He's an alright alright. Espn aren't nice. I'm also gonna go. Espn and you are incorrect. Jake reed is a right handed pitcher for the triple a oklahoma city dodger hot. I thought i knew. The dodgers farm system pretty well ireland mason. Each have three to four ireland. You're right here. Let's do three more of these. How about that. Good all right next one clayton. Daniel is clayton daniel and espn employees or dodger ireland dodger. All right dodger. Nice to make the point is to espn employees and you are incorrect. He is a genus. As name was again clayton. Daniel fielder in aa infielder. All right so ireland. Five mason three jorges three guys probably got to get this one. You basically have to get i. I'll go to all right. James huffman is james huffman a dodger minor leaguer or espn employees ireland. I think it's espn all right and we're espn mason. How many more other. I mean i've got like five more but let's say go three more to give them a chance. Listen to more. okay. I'm gonna stick with you guys and say espn employees. You guys are all correct. No change in the scores. They're all right next. One need them both ireland since your head burke magnus is burke magnus espn employees berg lindsay. For magda is at the top of the trying to pick one that you guys might know. He's a big boss. That's espn or hey you want to that not as little shortstop and college but no no never no. I tried to pick some people that you guys like would know and then something you want it now. He's right under jimmy kimmel mccarthy. Jim wait wait. Let me ask you serious questions. would you have known that. Yeah ok mace. Would you have known as seriously. Seriousness burke magnusson second in command his own network deal like i said i was trying to mix in some that. You guys would totally know for sure. You like what just happened happened. I heard me if that'll last one than i need to tie. Yeah okay well. Okay all right. Andy pages is andy pages and espn play or a dodger. Minor leaguer ireland mace. I'm going. I think he's a dodger. But i'm gonna say espn to give you a chance. Espn yeah. I think you screwed me. I'll say i don't think i'm right. Dodger you guys are right or hey and mason. You guys are a right right. Yeah all right so now. Six seven six basin view in this. I'll give it to you if you timing tiger right now. Six seven six. But i'll give it to you. Get this all right so it all comes down to this all comes down to this. This is for everything. And i'm going to pick the most generic name possible so you guys have no idea really know the dodgers minor league system. Greg birdman lihua all right. The name is james out. Men is james ausman dodger or a minor. Leager may send ireland ireland s of. I've never seen a james ausman on anything. Espn so i'm going to just. But i also have never seen jason. How all pharmacist baseball player. Auger dodgers mason. I will go. I my only way to win is to go to. espn will give it actual gas. Because john said he said dodger. I'm saying to spend or how would you break the tie lodger and you are right or hey. John outfielder a single a advanced and Ireland is now on five times in june of next week gender. Lindsay's one one hor. He's one one. Michael thompson scoreless so far in the month. Yeah you're out next week. Yeah so you with yourself. We're going to park city for a couple of days. And then we're going to a wedding in denver. No nice is it. Is it normal for a golfer to suddenly forget everything that he learned. Yes that is what happened to me yesterday. Yeah it's not. I i do it all the time. Like a remember. I told you a few weeks ago. I shut my low round of the year when i had the whole one. And i doubt seventy four very next round eighty-seven so it happens all the time. Yeah yesterday i was absolutely off. I was just at the range. But i was absolutely awful and i've yet to take a driver out of the bag. I've gotta learn to hit my irons and my short game before. I learned my driver's literally. We're doing this too much. Hambur june to july two three months you have three months is a long time. Okay i got a shot. I got a shot in three months. I mean i think my my coach derek. Alan gets really frustrated. With me i would. Yeah you would. I like i can have one good swing like i put on social media but making a duplicate -able if that's a word is very very difficult very hard so you are. You remain a heavy heavy favourite to beat me in september. I dare you have your mason in ireland for today. Thanks for reason the as actually practicing family few three times yesterday there. Practising practising family feud guiding practice every day. Oh they need a lot of practice. Those guys i. I hear him there. They need a lot of practice. I know i love these guys. They are the state of the art afternoon. Drive show in the city of los angeles. Do not go anywhere. Stay right here. We are back tomorrow at twelve fifty five sharp. Do not miss it coming up next for donald. L z and cap seven ten espn.

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42: #92 - We Found The World's Creepiest House

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42: #92 - We Found The World's Creepiest House

"Desks in elementary school had like ours. Had like a little cubby down at the bottom your pocket in the bottom. Yes where you could put all of your little notebooks and everything and and middle school. They got rid of that little cubby. We never had desks. That opened all your your tests that we've had were. They made in the fifty. It was like it was like my music class would have those deaths but like most. You had desks in your music class. Yeah we were just sitting on the risers sitting on the ground. There was dusk in everglades. Kohner is like your that swivelled into the back so that you can play instrument and then when you're like doing re learning the notes it would swivel and come forward but it was a tiny desk fit like a sheet of paper the little arm that will allow the shape of the top of a piano. Remember that just in elementary school like they would never have enough 'cause discussing but it was literally the dust and right under would be where you put your books but it's not like metal so you just the gong fucking on that little bars little command decorate that the hell up. That was a real thing. If you got carpeting gum under the desk you have to take gum off of every desk in the room right in the classroom or is that just short but i never got. I never did that. Never got user. I didn't get caught either gum man. We had gun nazis in our school. Oh no we we we we chose. We chose which had gone. We shouted we tell the fuck out of that. The best science lab tables because they were that oh black thing about sixteen black granite could use your eraser like kinda jeet and like right and the notes with the eraser and it was so easy way so you had to look at the fucking reflect dot table one. Count table all. You can look up a picture of a high school science and room and all the same and you would would tables with the black tops. It was just like standard. And then the jet the bunsen burners but they never really worked young. Worry that you were like huffing gas. Smell it just had that table for every class. It was just so nice and major classroom. Feel like you're in a good school question about science classes you know. There's the washing station ever. You know. I've always wanted to put my face in it toward the shower. The gotta use a shower that would suck you just so rest fucking the flash day of those like gas pumps on the table like you know how science class science class the tables. What will connect to this sink and on the sink. There is like that gas thing where you can like. Open it and close. It just talked about the were. You like yes. Let the gas out. But it never turned on. I felt like you have to turn it on inside the under the sink on. They would would've voted something but never once we use those damn bunsen burners. Yeah i don't think it was always grab a beaker a graduated cylinder shit that we see that i see on talk of the teachers like we never got to hold the animals. We held spiders and snakes the whole time and then we learned the periodic table. That's all i remember you dissect anything yes i'm doug to we did. We did frog cats. No mating cover the ears. They came to the school with the huge cooler like multiple yet cooler cats and the open bags and bags of ood. Yeah there were like imagined. Those that you love was scottish the classic puke and all over each other. Get all those hats that died at like the pound and they put down in the donate all. You know what. I've schools are so fucked up. I feel like they would kill those guys just for the classes. Now here's the thing. I love cats. I only had one cat growing up. But i kind of didn't mind it diana cat it kind of like. I was really uncomfortable with that first. And then i like just honor was really upset. accepting of like the beauty of like how malice dark behind the token the right he was like. Oh we did do that. But i know that sounds stop it. It was educational but different. Would it be educational very educational. Mrs mullins the craziest thing that we did. That's closest to. That is our zoology teacher. Walk into a room one time and he goes. I had a game plan for today. But i saw dead deer on the road. So i put it in my truck and it's pregnant so we're going to dissect and take the baby who that shit in your school don't fuck in pennsylvania. Yeah so we roadkill like deer was like a common thing and he noted that it was pregnant so he put it in his truck on the way to school and he pulled up to like the back law and we went out to like this little field trip and we walked to his truck and he dissect we didn't get to do it but he dissect it and we took the baby out yet but it didn't make a dear you. We have to go through weeks of approval for that. you'll back. I feel bad for the class of his after y'all because he almost gave i guess it just depends on the animal because i could see some of our teachers coming in. I had alligator my truck. We're about to the fucking allegation. It'd be the same page in your rope. I fucking form along the little. Does it was pretty full. It wasn't like a little was a crazies. Opening up yeah isn't saying the sack and everything was literally giving birth to this like he liked c section that. Wow but it didn't. None of them made. It was just the mom got hit and then that ruined everything. He wanted to see if it was like possible. But oh my gosh. We did a cow heart. One time and like a cow brain own tongue headed. The head of the cow was the cabeza. Vodka was not cabeza. Vaca head of a cow. You remember the explorer. Remember when you learned about the explores. The conquistadors of america like columbus cabeza vaca. I remember they were like that. Means head of the cat okay. Well now that we've started on goody. Yeah let's let's do it. It's all albani milk cow. Milk the goat about my mom when i was little. I got nipples. Can you milk me. Always wanted to touch another the. It's like i. i think. I did like a fake one. Like a county fair. It was like a fake utter there. There's no that was a glory hole. Get away get away now. There's there is talk to him. That i saw you know how those daughters will put their moms like behind them. They have to score presentation. Can you like sit back there. Like i need you in the shot. And they'll put like a fake zoom call. Guess they'll present just to see how the mom reacted with the cat. Assaying and there's one that i saw those so good but she was like so this is this is. This is how me and my mom can act bowl by. She does still breastfeed me on. Zoom causes it just looks so real some just seeing her face. It was so fucking good. Yup still breastfeed me. I think that's how we can act on a spiritual level and the girl kept her cool. It was amazing. Is it true the longer you breastfeed your child the more higher of an iq. They will have heard that too. I don't know if that's really. You should breastfeed your child until the day. they're like six years old. Be doing this vocalized. That i know some people feel like he gets to the point where it becomes like illegal like what what age where it just becomes like okay. We need to separate the pair from the birthday party coming up. So i'm happy. Sixth birthday thrones episode. Remember feeding our kid. Nine years old. That was different back then. Nutrition pop yellow titties out his mouth and stop babying gaga gaga. Got your cookies. What what is the resemble. Aides to stop like three. I feel like a year on average. It's year when do you start walking a year. Okay wind windy moved to pull ups when you start when he started running to your mom and then you can teddy suck. That's all back when you can undo the bra-strap and that is not like the kid. I used to nanny. She was fully potty trained two years old. Wow reading at to like literally. Everybody reading tools like this the bed yesterday. That's crazy though. I wonder how long it took me to stop pissing the bed problem. I don't know i. I remember bed until i was older than a pizza bed. Like i literally. I literally would fucking dream every time and i'd be peeing in my dream. I would always be in front of a urinal and i'd have to go so bad and i'd start peeing in my dream and then i would feel it and god damn oh no got me again you get feel it in your dream. Every time i would what the bed it was. Because i was peeing in a urinal. So you're over the urine the pissing. Aw shit no. And then i remember no yup and i would feel it and in my dream i would wake up. I would just be like you know why. You're not flushing. That's why no. I would watch halfway through my piss did you. Could you see european is in your dream. You're was it like like a hot dog. Wiener something bizarre. You're like that doesn't matter penises. Actress from all my dreams. Why it didn't happen at a sleepover. Anything i'd happen all the time. Oh that's embarrassing to the point. Where all the other. Dudes at the sleepover found out that he went to bed. Yeah my my best friend awesome. He knew it was like a thing and he still your friend now. Yeah mom wasn't too happy about having to change the sheets all the time but Yeah i would just could not help i i. I've had peeing problem my whole life. I would go to the bathroom before bed. And the no matter what i would still and you have a problem now i do. It's never gonna what is it. We gotta figure it out. We should take a trip to the doctor altogether. Really tiny tiki. It just can't hold it. I'll welcome back zany heath unfiltered. I'm zane zane heath matt ryan mazza heath and zane. And you're not welcome back. Do you think there are four. Other friends out there in the world whose names are like. Zane heath matt mariah. Don't think so so. You think we're the only four fantastic four. There's probably three. Maybe there's three. Yeah i think there's there's definitely a heat out there. I could see that girl. I knew growing up had a baby and she named it. Zane spelt the exact same way. Zane has his name. And it's so funny. I'll see her. Facebook status is and it's like oh we finally potty trained zane way who far off from me. Oh i saw something funny on tick-tock you know if you guys cross your fingers like this so you know it's like you're crossing your fingers here like you know jinxing and then rubbed it on your nose like split it opposite ways and keep rubbing it on the bridge of your nose will start feeling like you have to noses. This is start feeling your noses like split into makeup off i get. I am getting horny though. You'll feel like it's like splitting like like tree. Rooting different areas I thought it was put my. I can't do with my nails. But i support my fingertips together as a kid and golic yes. We're like a glass box. Yes or something. Remember when you put your fingers like this with your friend and visual. We used to do the ones where you would have. The person like lay completely flat and you would hold their arms and then it would be like that ground hold them up above it for a while and then slowly like or you hold their arms closer side while they're pushing out away and then when you relax their arm start floating up. Yes or then he would do those ones where it's like Spiders crawling up your back spider. Trawling up your bag. Stick a knife in your back. Keep blade push him at the end and they go. What did you see a red. You're going to when you die fucking kid. Those were the which is back then. Those are the evil. That shit is crazy to think about in the fucking past though like if you thought somebody was a witch you to say. Hey that person's a witch and in order for them to prove prove that they're not a witch that the do something they would know they would. They would fucking strep cinderblocks to their feet and be like efforts. It's a witch. They'll be able to get out and prove that they're away crazy and if not they just died. She turned into intuit. Newt i guess they a witch they died. I would have done like a car. Roll something what can do this all right right aboard. No you make him. Think that a witch like cast spell on you. So how could you possibly be a witch. You know what i mean. You got turn manipulate them. We go to salem massachussetts. Ooh i which is little kern at the state. Do you think they still take that shit. Serious over there ceo. No i feel like people hear about it on the news that they're like really go real fucking witching be like they're really into that history and they believe in witchcraft and everything they believe in which is but like. I don't think as far as killing whoever they think our wishes. Right now it's mass hysteria. That's what it is like a witch months the freaked out. They wanted to explain why people were getting sick and dying but they dance. They danced in the woods. Is there any like talking about it. I actually kinda wanna watch one. What documentaries about money plenty to watch a good one eight hundred four. There is an eight twenty. Four film called the witch. It's one it's one. Eighty four anna taylor joy or whatever is a good yes gets shunned from the town because they think that they're witches and then they go and live alone and shit goes down and then they find out. They are actually which they're actually bitches. That's that's the movie. I fuck warlocks oud gulag. Is that like the mail which i thought it was a half bull half. That's a centaur or a matador beasts award hog was a young war and got all wrong. This all right. That's why. I gotta watch the salem documenter Zoom which you'll see the new space jam. I haven't seen y'all it really looks disappointing like i. If you told me about space jam coming out two years ago. I would have been amped about it but like the what i've seen. They still should've used michael jordan. I know but i think it just like i don't like when they use new people. I think you should always use the could've used them as like the grandpa maybe or the just does poverty. Yeah he might make a cameo michael jordan not make a cameo at all in relation to do. He had to the ghost of like somebody. I don't know the ghost of michael. He's michael jordan in the movie with like the original movie. They were saying like like maybe in space jam to like. Maybe he passed away. So who isn't lebron now illegal on braun is in his following footsteps and it's like it's like when patches from dodge ball passed away and they like brought him back a bill kind of look like steve the pirate. I went to juilliard from space. Jerem yet you say patches from dodgeball michael john. James is the michael jordan of our time but maybe the plot could have been that. He's following in michael jordan's footsteps from the original. Because michael jordan path ron and ransall maybe for the winning play. He's he sees michael jordan's face in basketball. He's like you can do this like something very like quick comments. That's what happens lawmaker custos. Now we haven't seen any goodness. I don't talk when we're talking about movies. Because i know how we went to cyberspace jam space. And then now you're talking to michael jordan. Oh oh not do that. Oh no i knew. I was gonna say you know my thoughts about michael jordan. But that doesn't bring them up like maybe once a month. I think he's okay. I think he's okay. Kimmy somebody better than girls. Just love him because he's attractive. Man sure is yeah but man. That movie mercy. Some weak acting. What's what's what's the mood. He's good mercy. Yeah michael jordan goes to like. Oh movies shoe it's quite book courtroom dramas read So no michael guys know movies shoot. Did you ever try out for sports team. And you didn't get on the team every single one. Get out of here. Oh illich everyone's still gets on the team. You just get on a participation award. I'd get picking pizza party. I'll never forget my favorite part of playing football. This one what you got so excited. I never knew you like what ballpark range was a flag football. I did flag. I did tackle tackle. Play the high school team. Of the boy punter your. I didn't know you played football in high school. Yeah jv never made the varsity. Didn't want you on the bench. Most of the time. I was actually But i was saying my favorite part about football was there. Was this one team mum who would bring chocolate covered pretzels. Every time we would have a game and we would just have these great snacks. I don't know if she worked at a bakery or something. But i remember. I was like the fat kid on the team. And it would be the full-sized gatorade was always pushed to you. Is gatorade chocolate dipped pretzels. And i remember. That was what i look forward to everybody. Eight the oranges you ate. Everybody had the gatorade. You had the sunday. Did you have to go pee. When you're a football player though a lot of bridges you have to take down the cup. The johnson and i feel like certain foods hit different at sports events. Only hotdogs. I don't wanna hotdog unless i'm playing. I'm like watching a baseball game. I'm craving a hot dog. But i don't think about it other than that or like a roller dog at the turn when you're golfing. Yeah that's a nice one roller dog. The hot dogs at sit on the fucking rollers for like ten hours. Go back and forth. Yeah well hey. Have you ever had pizza from summer. Eleven yes good by the whole thing good. Have you ever had seven eleven and its allies. Like five minutes. That's funny my first internship. I ever had seven. Eleven was about to launch pizza. And i had to create a research all. Yeah about pizza for seven eleven. Good yeah it's never had it. I like the the tuxedos la buffalo chicken roller by one. I'm malicious i. Hope no one. Like i don't run into anybody just like you got you got the buy one get one. One is the cheeseburger in chicken. What she. I don't know if they sell many more remember. Celeste pizzas those little p per to moses solano celestial last season. Whatever it's called you don't remember those red boxes like this big and they had no you don't fuck those. Were good celeste. You don't remember that. That was a florida. The red baron east coast. I grew up on embarrassed threadbare and solid with the and they had the instead of like slices a pepperoni pepperoni cubes. Oh yes yes. Oh my dog fights dog food. It was like talking about your. Obviously i was in florida and this was around lake new year's and we like hanging out with like a bunch of patricia family friends and i'm like nervous a meeting. All these people trying to hang out look busy in their chips and everything hanging out there. These little baggage streets. And i was just like popping them in tune. I'm talking to everyone donkey. Do i had eight of them. Look like what you thought they were. There wasn't a damn dog on the box and there was no doggy. Pine nobody said anything from your first seven bags walking seven bags fan like was sitting in your almonds back ziplock nice. You can't tell really. There wasn't like a picture of a dog usually a picture of puppies but there wasn't one on there in the name of it didn't imply anything like pulp arroni's none of that like little cheerio wheels almost like tiny little samoa's Like you know the girl scouts but with like cheese and stuff oats. And i was like mambo oud look delicious but i was like these are really bland. They must have very healthy happen on away. Like hey you're you're you're gonna stale. That's what exactly happened. These are weird thing. I think that happened at a family barbecue for us. Our aunt gave us all those little ice cream cups with the wooden spoon or whatever but they didn't come with a spoon and she was like. Oh just like. I'll i'll get you like spoons. So she went inside and we already started like eating it. And they were dog ice creams. I heard about dog control ice creams dog. What does it look like the little ones that come. And they look identical so she gave them to all the kids and we were all eat guessing. It wasn't like dairy because they can't eat. Uk these kids into so sparkler talk. Oh my filming. All the kids around with sparklers and these kids had these long inserts and his mom who the hell's haning kids dot mom was brought. She probably did it. She probably did it for the videos. You know no safety now. It's funny poor kids. I want to find out what neighbor that isn't just keep holding it. It'll go remember. Remember when our neighbor brought spargo's over to our las housing. And i'll get through it on in our house on the rug crazy bitch. Did you ever talk about that. I feel like we might. I think we may have. We came over with her kid. They lit sparklers inside the house. She hated us. She hated like so she was like go over there. And lightermen with it and they. They had the sparklers lit in the house and then the daughter dropped it like just went like this and dropped it on the rug and then the road start catching fire and then the mamas oh no. It was burning through the burning and she was like. Oh no sorry about that. It was like it was literally watching it. Fucking bird mean. Gross should mean couldn't believe it. Oh oops nice rug sorry. She was the light outside going. Okay i'm gonna go in. You're gonna drop that and i'm gonna just for the furriest thing that they have on the ground. Did you see the fireworks. That mean david went on for the july like the one it was like a machine. Gun the shit that they're making these days like it was like that you could like light up a neighborhood with those fucking fireworks. I see why they're illegal as a kid. I always thought it was the coolest thing be like. Let's go to the store. We'll get some of those illegal. The ones that we like david. We had on our stories. The word you're everything to light them anywhere anymore. You have to have to be like as designated like yeah. It has to be like you have to like have a certificate right to nobody has focused certificates writing. What do you mean. You have to have a certificate fireworks. No you have to have a license to do. I want it is it. Is it like really cool license. Is it like it's an award. It's got like a fucking leg border on heard. Remember those honor rolls. We'd like middle school. Where if you have all as one you get like the silver one and then straight as you get the gold one. Oh yeah yeah. I remember that. Should i still have mine. I the silver hung false is it called the honor roll. Or you're on a roll honor. Roll the honor. Roll like okay. Hbo there you go night your role for a long never mind. You're on a roll like you did. 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All of them everybody ran. How did they like put teams together. Like how the pe coach recruited and made the god. I did the two hundred meter dash all right. Guess allah placed first seconds. I was gonna say second second. Is the winner. You look like a really solid runner up. Though i was fast though man long-legged long legs over here on the paul. I'll get dasha don. I don't get that is the most fucking thing. How do they get themselves up. When when they using the guy who likes yeah. I feel like that happen. He'll run with it and you stick it in the ground and you like flex it go up and then you go over and then as you're falling you like go to your back. The pole fell underneath him so he went over the thing and then the poll was falling as he was falling and it flipped his day. Oh he's the funniest. This happened during the olympics. I think it was like the olympics before though it is such a funny video though with pole-vaulting okay. What are we doing here. You're trying to get over a barrier old school middle aged shit trying to break into the fortress ryan and start the war. I didn't even know that's where it came. Hold you're getting get over the moat. The that's how they got my doing in saint louis spice it up ads alligators and i want a couple of weapons. A couple of weapons like a little a little dagger dance right up and you hit the thing like your hero shoot. Something people died. People got hurt. We had something called the turkeytrot try. I don't know if he did do or the other. We did that. Elementary school so you can walk around the track elementary school. And if you walked like a certain amount would get foot tokens. That would go on your shoelaces and you can collect them all the you have any. We had a walkathon for earth day. Now the turkeytrot like you you would do it in gym for a little bit but then at at recess if you decided to do it on your own like you can get more. They look like little feet. They were these plastic tokens. Like you know how. You put tokens on your crocs. They would go on your shoelace so kids would collect a bunch of them and they're like oh they walked. A lot of miles walked a mile. You gotta total again. You see these tokens and like the gym teacher would be outside for recess like seeing who actually walked a mile on. You can get a token to get kids to exercise. Give us give us rewards. Make us feel good. I remember anybody. Field mueller was so stressful field. I loved everybody. The whole school was watching. You were like when you're doing and you get that fucking whatever book and you got a trip. I would fucking every talk field field date. Friendships were made like new ones. Like you never realized at all you see them bird. Did you do the one where it was like a water bottle on like this plastic octagon thing and everyone had strings and you italy. Pick it up and raise the wall of point eight. A art field day wasn't anything like that. It was more like sports. It wasn't anything where it's like. What would you guys do egg. Toss to act ours. We did egg. Toss egg running with it on a spoon or water balloon taw. Yeah the spoon. Did you get an egg and you had to put it in a brown bag and you had like throw it off the roof but says whoever's learn a certain amount of supplies toss but then we had sports like tug of war cut dirty during tug of war as nasty never had muddy ours burns on your home mud in the middle. I never liked tug of war. He has more neither. So is the team that you think not. I don't think i waiting to win. Doesn't have. I've never been on a winning tug of war team major. Every time i've ever done it we've lost. We should do a walk squad tug of war. I would literally i would opt. How how do you. How do you split the teams does it matter. Our team's gonna lose. That's sir how would you split it. Unfiltered i antonio's family. I think we're gonna win. No we're not so no fucking beasts dude us against var. That's a strong me and him are fighting the other night. She's fourteen years old and he fucking he beat my ass. I know it's crazy advocating. Yeah he went from like seven to fifteen overnight then blinken. You're going to be ninety when we was. This is ford. We miss the fucking space station. You're supposed to fucking no cast you out jane. The species in flying across the international space station was flying over us at we going to a when he seven or twenty wild shit. Oh we didn't get in the car we could drive. Oh mike just text me. did you see it all. He's we couldn't use your camera to. Oh so cool camera. When's the next time it happens. Matt i don't know i not for another yes spice station but i think maybe sometimes you can always see it. If you're just in the right place in the world. I think just imagine with ilan or something i was just like hey can bring about bring that back one more time does it though the just for only ut manassas pasties yeah. Yeah it is. It was like as long as a football field. Sorry i what am i say odom. You're at heaves. I suppose say was creek. Was it insane to see it. Or was it just like a sham. Just a little dot your iras. All alright i ireland shooting okay. How many people do you think are in space right now. Zero always somebody wanting as fifteen one hundred ten people space. I think five. I'm gonna look it up. How many more people in space ten people right now are in space. That light doesn't make sense. That's a party. We got oleg mark. Yes there's other. Countries doing space. Three people from china. One from japan to americans through three americans one french guy a russian were they altogether to go up or are they different there in shea stations but the international space station so the japanese one person on. Oh did he that. Clip of jeff bezos. Like before he went in the before he went before you went into iraq. Didn't go like didn't go. Oh hell yes okay. Didn't he not look like not himself like both talks. That's didn't look billion dollar botox. Yes a billion dollar face a bunch of old pictures all the time. Is it not look. It's the weirdest laugh. It's like money right. You see the one. He's like working those robotic arms and they're moving. Oh was he likes. It's kind of like it's funny seeing him like because he's like that kid that ended up making a bunch of money. You know what i mean. Yeah a like just kind of like the he would have been like a goofy kinda kit in school and then to seeing him like he has now money like an access to all these fucking insane things. So it's kinda like coon six. I know on the world suck berg and gates and lock bird. That's nuts so i was only united flight and on the plane. They were promoting the the new place. That are coming out with. And i don't think any of us have ever seen this. I can't believe i saw it when they're making these planes. That are three four times faster than regular planes that and they were showing like the amount of time it would take to get to certain destinations like it was united. That was making these planes and they promoting so. It's almost done. What year i. I didn't see the year so it was like from here to japan was like three hours. It was like insane and it was being promoted like we. We can find it on. The phone isn't the ones where they're actually going up. Like a rocket in the earth turns look like a rocket. But i don't know i think it's still the same. The same area was showing this to you on the fly. Yeah there it is supersonic travel united airlines signs. Deal to buy new plans to Debbie sick oh yeah how much thinking it would cost on that flight probably for like economy like a few grand. I think more than that. Everyone sought. sorry it's gonna be. I feel like it's going to be more expensive than flying on a private jet. Like think about like how much it cost per. Person the biggest. Ceo world leaders in the world. Who are going to be booking that. If they know that they can go to japan and like three hours. Yeah must be nice. I think he'd be like ten caretaker. I think there's only like a few destinations that they have to people in the twenties. Were like you know they can make a flight that could take your here from the from. La to new york in like. Did you see that video or five hours of stuff. That they said was going to be ready by like twenty like the sixties or something and they were showing leg a house that you would just hose down. It was supposed to be like these inventions. That were combing. Were saying it was the future you would like. Hose down your furniture and then it would just like fucking into the ground into like a sewer thing. They were saying the flights would be like thirty minutes or something like that. Because of how fast we'd be able to get there. I forget the other ones but it was pretty cool. Have you guys ever seen like the old movie. like oldies. like came out in nineteen sixties. And they'll they'll be where it's it's like. Yeah to one at twenty and the walk outside of the looks like it looks like it's the you're three thousand from our time and so they just going to be so fucking advance. We'll get back to the future. Took twenty fifth to cover boards. I thought we were going to be different. Kind we the vine hover boards divine squeeze. Throw throw one of those suckers in one thousand nine hundred people i think. Have you watched that. Show dark on netflix. Sherman scifi show me. There's a scene where someone finds a phone like the thirties. And it's like the trickiest thing ever a phone in the thirties like someone who was time. Traveling left an iphone in the nineteen thirties. Finds it always think about that. Like imagine you're a like a festival seventies and you just have your iphone outlook recording. And i was like what the fuck is at like. Imagine you're able to just be there for five is just just to see people's spaces that at south by south west but i took my i took my sidekick to the exact opposite. He's taking photos to a little. Yati show like pulled it out started taking photos and it was funny because even though yariel sage was like rap and he was just like fuck interested but i could see in his eyes. He was staring at me. Like wait what the hell alive immediately started tapping the shoulder like. Why do you have. Because there's so many pictures of like time travelers whether they're fake night it's fun to look at like there's one from maybe to pick from like the twenties and there's a guy on a cell phone but like he just has like sunglasses on southbound like here's the thing about time travel even if you went back in time our placement in the universe in even in like the galaxy is not where it would be. You know Either twenty years ago so you would just be floating in space if you traveled back in time. Wh- the earth is constantly rotating removing spaces expands on where you are right now in this very moment you wouldn't be there you wouldn't be there. You'll be floating in space because earth is moving. Got it so if you wanna go. I wanna go back five years ago five years ago. The earth isn't in the same position that at once was During that time interesting so something when we when we start time travelling. We'll we'll worry about that. So i love that movie looper. It's like time travel doesn't exist does so we watch we watch that show. When we were kids. I know were in college. Bruce willis and emily blunt. In joseph gordon levy thousand and twelve. Probably i met my guess. Two thousand twelve. How'd did i get that right. Because i think i remember in college going and seeing with like my roommates and like an interesting His opponent next week cavity cat the cavity king knows a root canal verified dentist. He reached out. He's like hey when it comes over whiting and like yeah my teacher. Y'all now i gotta get away and sometimes makes me feel better about my face. Let me see when you were like butter. Butter gets really close. You're just like oh look bad. I blame the car. The the con con condensate milk. That used to drink condensing. Jesus christ condensed milk that he just cover my teeth and i still teach us hurt for like three days after it. Kind of sucks bummed. I was when. I didn't get to see that red blood moon. That was like the full. Whatever thing that just wasn't big or was it like woke up at like three in the morning to go see it and it was fucking cloud coverage you couldn't see anything you find. We'll also have a telescope here. That's her to see that tonight. And that camera and you still can't catch them all right all right. Next year exterior that ever happens again matt. You'll get it. I brought by now. I actually kind of okay with it. I think it's funny. What's it called when you're like something has the sun and the moon and you can't look at it like that in the straight with your own eyes or you'll go blind. We were told us when we're in love and solar eclipse solar eclipse. Yeah shouldn't asian to stay. I remember in lebanon. And i remember. It was happening all day and we wanted to look at the sun so bad but all of our family us that we will go blind immediately if we looked at that really. Yeah is that true or is that just just something that it. I don't see why it would the moon in front of it would make it. Well i don't know did do the race intensify as i don't know we're not fucking astronomer because it didn't it didn't feel like it was hot like it wasn't like well the thing is people are staring at it for a long time because they want to see it and if you're looking at it like for that long. It's just really bad for people to be doing that. And we were a little catalog darren directly at the sun. But you guys ever gone sun gazing for kazaa. We stare at the sun. Like when it's rising watching this never heard of sun-gazing you just go watch this. I know you like stare into it directly into the sun and it is. Oh my brother used to do that. We would like seeing like the black spots. Look away from it Liga like energy thing like a lot of people do. Yeah like staring. I've done it quite a few times. And it's it's kinda cool. Does it give you energy. Yeah you just like feel alive. Well i guess you do that. People also save you if you like you know chill your butthole to this asshole hairs so i think it gives you energy. That one's weird it's so sun-gazing but not but gazing you know what i mean right. Yeah yeah a perennial tanning or. I don't know what else to open up your but to the this with a cup of coffee in the morning. It's like john with a sun dog and that would make more sense to do it. So moon to the moon moon. I can't believe kern has made four million dollars. Well we don't wanna get into. What is so crazy showing that i'll show some ass. Hav would show her for four million on in one month. yeah the most. Also my monk memo baugh because everybody's bought whole is the same. So i wouldn't mind showing but you wouldn't show your penis for penises. Like like penises. Something where you will be like. That's just too much of your body. You know something that. We have to keep protected now. It has more if it was a rector not rex it would it be. We get more money. I don't know it's like you. Settled for non erect penis for a certain price for is if it was a wreck. Is that more than it was worth more. You're seeing yeah the erect side minority but also like but there's also a size difference. So is it like matt's knock him over a really good idea for me todd. We haven't only fans account all three of us and we are. I picture is all of snake iraq. Someone's in the middle and then once a nevada someone's on the front just pointing just pointing one way and then we put if you guys pay two hundred and fifty dollars go closer and we talk or pay a certain amount for him to go backwards. Lucerne multiple drake gain in. Great moneymaker too and then the last in the very last picture. Oh i was checking it with seven like it's like being on the line let's go. We were zana. He's unfiltered we can talk about as penises right and then the last picture right before we touch it will just be a picture of me like this. Gotcha got to be. The hardest thing is just figuring out what your face would be like as you're showing your penis. Karenna can show her boobs and just be like take ourselves seriously like message me like like i think the face i probably cover my pouty girls. They scratch their face. Just us just like biting you sleeves. Well yeah tell thumbs up. If you guys want us to make only the thing is like you make all your money off only fans if you think you're doing great and then like ten years from now you're like adler a backyard barbecue. Oh how did you make your own. Mala saying he makes one but he he has only four subscribe. All four of those people spread environment. Better thing is like girls can like they had like they hunt down like no one can post it anywhere else it. Everyone just makes memes out of winter. Buri where you get nothing. Nobody's paying for that. They're just joking about the money. You make a senior day but only tossing you. Schilling my twopence showing the world. Would i had to offer. That's depressing. Ever know anybody in your life who did playboy or something like that but was like a secret I know my my mom loved the playboy. Men's she loved the show and loved the three girls. What are the names holly something something holly kendra and my mom was upset with them all. She wanted to do. Remember when i moved out here. And there was a chance that we got to go to the playboy mansion for vine or something to make vines. But i remember in that moment. I was just like i have to take my mom. That's all that's all. My mom loved when she was like but they don't run it anymore and they sold mansion. Yeah there's no monkeys and stuff like there used to be. Is there a new playboy playboy mansion. I don't know think like some saudi prince owns the whole thing. It's i heard that hype house. You think so. I feel like the time has come and gone. Yeah now it's only fans like oh big whoop you're in playboy right. There hasn't been only house there is. I haven't seen that yet only fans. Oh my god. Could you imagine what that would look like. Probably fucking job. I normally house because of all the fucking percentages are making more idea. I think marine either talkative funny story. what's your only fence experience that you've had I thought about doing only fans before dance to towers. And then my matters like yeah. Then if you're gonna put dancing your strip haven't because it wasn't meant for like what it has its reputation for today like it's just for exclusive content in general so i could have done whatever was was it. Like a patriarch back then country. Long patriots still is but like people made it into like just fine go off but i still wanna like do something with dance. To'real sound like i'm naked dancing. You only definitely has that like vibe. Now you've probably go somewhere else. That was my big store. Miss mariah murrah instructor. Imagine telling your your students parents only fans and they're like i'm sorry scan. Qr code my kids will not be attending. you're only fans stance in class. Thank you should. We react to that house given new house. You have a new house so all. We have a new house devon brought to my attention. This is a property that was sold. Surprisingly it was in south lake tahoe california or it may be on the nevada side. But let's let's let's visit. Let's take a peek and now in the beginning it may seem just like a normal kind of trashy house. it's for i think. Seven hundred and ninety five thousand dollars. and it just sold. I'm not sure. I think it's sold in may okay. And so it looks like a regular little bit cabinet. In lake tahoe. Yeah you know just like a little winter retreat all the trashy we heard you. Well no wait. We haven't gone to the inside in the inside. You'll you'll see. But i'm not here to house i'm not here to how shame you know. Some interiors may be the same interiors. he'd seen fargo. if we wanted to go snowboarding. Yeah exactly and then you know another okay. Okay you know not the most modern design. Aki clearly not staged This is lived in. Could've they could've picked up the laundry laundry. Couldn't you know they didn't put the you gotta love the carpet on carpet when they like a carpet auto rug that's already there the you know there's the kitchen liam floor clean up before they take pictures the toilet paper on the fucking count and that's one of the biggest the biggest thing on the donner. I'm just gonna go quiet from now on the shell react to the picture. Oh my god all right so we have get quiet so here. We made our way to the garage. Oh what is worse mannequins. They're seven or eight mannequins in a room account khomeini mannequins that go to the last slide. Let's see how many mannequins the house of wax layer everywhere. We got one two three four five six seven or eight mannequins all wigs mannequins by the way they look very realistic. We got this house up to maryland. Just lived in. That's what doesn't make sense saying if you ain't stage in any of the other rooms and we got close hanging on couches and stop the laundry room. Looks like shit. Why the hell are eight minutes. That ain't stage but and they're posed like perfectly fashion designer lives. Yeah like the cameraman. That was like doing a house like walked into the room. It was like like like about like weird taking my god there in every room i hold on. They were run in the first pictures. No these are all different mannequins. What's oh my god. Yeah oh fog. That's like it's too creepy. We have to go tell a story like all like having a party. They're kind of like southern living. They're all they're all in areas of the house to seem like they belong in that area. It's not like they're just thrown up again. What is that. That's another mannequin in the know what oh choose. They're very ornate fireplace. And there's jesus would that be known we gotta saturate. Jeez that's a big statue of jesus. Why that is like a full-size. Oh my gosh. They look so real. It's a party. Something feels sinful when in in Home alone when he has the car. Boycott of michael jordan around shelters like people in the house. That's what it looks like Oh god oh one of the bed. A lonely man house. This house is a feminine touch to it like the declaration. There's a couple clearly lives here in. But why wouldn't you put the mannequins. Just all in one room. I wanna see who's house this was. I want to see it that a we go back. Oh get tomato basil plant. It almost looks like a weed plan. Basil big basil. The biggest. natal's remember. I don't know i think okay. I bet. The realtor went in started taking the pictures downstairs worked his way up and was like oh god and then he reached out to like head of the real estate agency and they told him go. Get crazy with it like 'cause now we're talking. The house sold eight clearly works. I don't know like we're talking about it. Was it staged or was it that you think the mannequins helped. I don't know or think it's up old man who was like displaced was all the rage in the seventies. We like this. Yeah he has a memory of a girl yeah. She was standing like that This one was over here like this. Do you think i am legend. He would just have conversations like he had like relationships with these mannequins. I wouldn't you. I like that. You're probably fox. Do you think the guy that bought this also over bought. This house was like. I'll buy this house but the mannequin stay man furnish paying extra hundred k. Moving people come like all right. Let's say the reds out like caravans of them to like all sit church van. Oh my careful with her. Oh my god her arm fellow down my down me fucking oh god why was like the first five pictures no mannequins like but like they were in rooms with their romantic surprise because let's save them want someone to do a page of listings where they have just the worst pictures like the houses are good but they just have the worst fucking picture like there is there. Is this house. I saw those. La there was. It was a picture of like the side of the couch like it was point with a flip phone. Yeah it looks like he's taking on. Lg chocolate wiser picture of a. I can't see the house and there was just a dresser but just the dresser like you don't see anything around it's like the justice doesn't even come with the house like the dressers is being pulled once once you buy just go to the front door messes beatty describe it to the people listening. Houseboat go but not a vote on the it is a so it. Looks like the houses built for and then they built the front of the boat like right after justice the boat into a piece of land and then built around. It is really well done. I'm surprised didn't like water somewhere around the tights. Wow wait this way. The inside look sick. You can't tell me if your friend said we're going to go to my my beach house taking pictures in later. It inside tacky as hell but the inside looks pretty nice. They have the captain's wheel right there in the middle of the living room. Imagine being a kid and seeing that just like. Oh my god worry. You ain't building this. Ain't for the kids through. Of course it's grandparents white. People always have a bathroom. That's beach. I agree the octopus carpet. A shell on seashells. The light blue we. We had a beach. The always a fucking even even the hawaiian place conscious everywhere and just talk about the woman who came in stage. your house. the woman who came in staged zan's sure. Yeah we could talk about house. We were like putting it up on the market and we need to stage it. He had this like designer. Come in to come like temporarily design the living room and the moment she walked in with this. I was like oh boy. We're in for a tree outside. I wasn't back home. yeah. I think. I'd like stayed outside and then i came home. Stubborn told me that she's here. She stage the house. But i don't think he wanted to tell me that how my house looked. I think he just wanted to see it for myself. And i didn't want to tell you. I one i was worried. Did zane approve. This didn't want to live to be like. This isn't gonna take a picture of this. Oh i may have you walk into my living room. And it looked like santa like a house and santa bell it was like the weirdest carpet blue carpet like starfish on alkaloids coral pattern hellos on the couch. Had 'cause we were like. I walked down like the beach is forty five minutes away. The beaches over this lady has never saved a house before like you could. Just it's the same stage every house clears it out everything be go. Oh god shells win. Yes that's what i like. Seemed like i was just like we. Gotta we gotta take this out. And realtor came in. because he's the one that brought her on just like. Oh god i was like yeah we gotta get rid of it because it was a surprise to everybody. It was really funny. I feel i feel about being laid off. You're paying paying you. Came stages are a lot of money. There are very expensive so when they do like a beach theme house when you're not by the beach and you're trying to sell the house it is just like that'd be like me coming in and doing a full on lake cabela's log cabin with a bear in the corner That doesn't make sense of the house. Got fit the vibe of the house. I wonder if she saw your podcast room. And it was like this me you inspire because your shits like beach. The commute very miami vice. She was like yeah. Let's do the whole thing i'm inspired. Oh boy y do one room. Let's do this public now. What do we do with this funny. Because that's the only room that has any sort of character and it just took whatever she filed character and it was just like wrap it up. Put them on who. She was already on the beach. Collecting shells base any. Got the call from you. Like oh man she's making. You wanted the fucking layered sand things thinking drawn. I fucked pursue about writing the square footage. Head oh my god draw with that shit though like like seeing that has got to be the toughest talking about sand art. Yeah where they do like the sand shit bundles and dough poke it down and have like a portrait. Yeah inside the sand. I had one. That was a camel on the desert. Those really and the desert was like it was yellow man sunrise in the back it was. It was an arabian make my own thing. One-time bear we all try to. It was just a mess like they're cut david. Have you guys been in michigan. No layover yes. Most worried just was oh. You're just a machine had miss michigan. You're looking. I don't even know where you are. Where in the world is carmen. Sandiego go by carmen sandiego. This international to be named after she goes for san diego. That's i didn't even know those until definitely didn't put together wanted san diego or Mrs. what's her. What's her face Boulevard 'as of las vegas boulevard. Your would have never thought that was like an actual fucking street name so funny. It's so weird coming to california and leg putting pieces together for rough with co weird all the time you hear stuff in songs but it's also really weird like being out here as you're older and like seeing the things and then realizing how much of like the tv and music industry is so catered towards l. a. You could tell everybody is here doing and when you find out the spot where the shot scene in a movie for some reason it's just underwhelming. I don't know why when. I shot a certain corner. Your you look at the corner just like damn onscreen dislike so much cooler. Like i'm like. I appreciate it but it's underwhelming i got the i got the i was screaming last night. Oh my god wreaking out watching the the frank sinatra documentary and. He has a house into luca lake that he lived in and i waited. It's like a four hour special. And i'm waiting for them to just say to locally and the second that came out of their mouth like and they were showing are blocked. It was great. It was crazy about a house on the water. And it's the lake right here and they're like to luca leg was beautiful because it's so small it's not like los angeles. I wanna freak out but till luca house. There's a leak back. i just thought. He saw houses their houses on the lake. And since as the golf course around it on. no it's on the side of it. It's mall lake and there's probably eight houses eight. It's so funny. Because i saw a billboard four to luca lake it was like if you see the lake. Lemme know it was like making fun of. Nobody knows that. There's a lake until luke. Unless you live there you can go see it unless you have a house on like. There's no like open area where you can always houses are like double digits kiat. It's private no. I don't think so. everybody i'm sure. They all have little like when frank sinatra was showing it they all had little boats like either kayaks. Baby yes cool. Would you guys be down. There's one house that's on the lake. That i went to go see because we're looking for houses but i want us to go to the lake and you see the houses that are surrounding. Just go to the open house whether it's in your only one house that's still available to see but we should also million so you can see the lake. Yeah which is you go see. Why don't we all pitch hopping. You've gotta see the closet in this. The closet is half the fucking house. It's the the master bedroom. Is this fucking big. And then the closet is the whole pitch in you. Saw the one for four million. No it's it's it's really big yeah. It's a huge lake. It's like that yeah Huge like but it's a good size. It was like a like we went to the back yard. And we were on the dock. And i just couldn't believe that we were into luke luke. Just don't see it when you're fucking around the city and it's so small like it's just like it's like literally like cute little town to block. This houses are also very interesting. So i think you guys would enjoy it just like just experiencing what this house was. Because this house was different it was very different. I remember when i first saw the lake. I went To the golf course right here and it's a private golf course like you can't go there unless you have a meme like a membership or you go with a member And i went with santino and i got to like see the lake from the golf course side. And there's like the whole like little exceeding area rest or i couldn't see it from the guy. Thought you could only see it from the eight house. It was the tino to the golf. Course you're here like you were on his podcast yeah heat. That's like really cool. He's a great fucking golfer. Great actors golfed with him. Yeah we did the gulf war. He's a member. There we hang out with him and his wife. We have friends are using. We have andrew santino on this podcast but it was sick like they have like a whole restaurant kind of like clubhouse area right there on the water. How'd you get connected with him. I don't remember him like when he asked you to. Be on the podcast. I think that was it right. Yeah how did he followed you on instagram. Those you meet him. Whoa whoa bro. Did you meet them at a restaurant was mormons. We hung out there. Cool tumor nice guy. I know i just listened to pete holmes on his yacht. My friends friends was really good. He's got a really good podcast to listen to a whiskey. Ginger whiskey ginger and they have bad friends. Right with bobby lee do when i was fucking out there. We looked over and joe patchy is golfing like literally next to us. He joe patchy. How did you know was joe patchy because you could tell joe patchy is wow and he also like he got to see. He got the whole house through the Went to the locker room. And everybody's names are on their locker so he was seeing leg. You're looking at their lock. You've told them one time you went into the showers who solid just like a dude george w bush naked. Stay thing just like shaved. Not a hair on magically. You go there every week into the locker room baba's lockers still there and they left. Oh bob hope would allow us to space you son of a bitch. He's dead lemon bar. Okay okay actually. We are stepping in our season. Three bar and oregon. We're gonna take a quick quickly. Forgot about the podcast for the past twenty minutes before we continue. We want to give a big thank you to amazon music for sponsoring this episode. If you're looking for a ready lineup of binge worthy podcasts such as ours plus free streaming music you have to check out amazon music literally before every single episode we record. We'll sit in the kitchen. And i turn my amazon alexa and i play amazon music for like an hour before we start recording how we get five five seven it really is and you just tell it's so simple it's like say what you want. And then he just plays exactly nothing simpler than that baby baby. Amazon music is the way to go and be like dead ass and amazon. Music has more than ten million free. Podcasts episodes eliza to including this one but amazon music isn't just for podcast. Got tons of different playlists and stations that you can listen to like we do before the episodes and baby in all free streaming and no matter what you're listening to you can always go handsfree with alexa like we do. Get the app and enjoy free listening everywhere on all your favorite devices. Best part of all is that. There's no credit card or subscription required guys if you've never tried amazon music before what are you waiting for. You're gonna love it as much as we do. And you could start listening for free today. All you gotta do is head over to amazon dot com slash unfiltered. That's amazon dot com slash filter stream thousands of music stations and access to ten million podcasts episodes for free at amazon dot com slash unfiltered for free at amazon dot com slash filtered for filter. Guys make sure to check them out. It's super simple. It's all we use and you guys will love it. So there's this titanic museum out in philly in pigeon forge tennessee yes. I've heard about the iceberg like cracked and fell into the water. It was like so weird. Because like that's what fucking happen. We staged iceberg. Yes the stage iceberg. So they built city iceberg. Yeah outside of the fake. Titanic and iceberg fell. Yes is it on the water. No a parking lot literally. It's an appointment what that's crazy to the middle of the bargain loan. That's a life size replica of the titan. No it's all life size replica way. It's just like i is this shaped like kindly the like a museum. I think the dam ship was sunk on purpose. Saw i believe. I believe that too i. I've seen some like sometimes. It's not people. Don't believe that it's the actual. Titanic another boat. They just that it was diff- opt out. Yeah so interesting. Didn't like the main like wasn't there j. p. Morgan was literally supposed to get on it and like seconds before he was supposed to board. Just didn't get on and everybody else. That was like the big banker like really really wealthy people At the time they all ended up getting on the ship and then dying with the ship but how they were the people that were going against General reserve Hold on though you can't this is back in the nineteen ten this vows. This is factual correct. How do you a stage. An entire iceberg to hit scrape in. Pull that entire thing under like no way. No way ain't buying that. Why are you just think that it was an iceberg or it was intentionally. I think it could have been a fucking explosion on it. Who knows d looked at the boat. They can see where it was scraped along the autumn. James cameron we heard it was a nice heath but heath and i love conspiracy theories titanic. That old lady took that million one hundred million dollar diamond and just said come on and just you rattle the deck of a smoke break. You like what what are you doing. Get back to your room. Did you hear about thirteen year. Old girl that got twenty thousand dollars from doritos for a puffy looking chip in her bag to reduce paid her twenty thousand dollars for the. I don't know if there's like she used yeah. It looks like it was like a did it. They make a whole bag of doritos redeem ridi. Bit funny i'm surprised. Wouldn't it be fun to give her twenty thousand dollars for that because it's like good. Pr stunned yeah. I guess so prominent you got people going in bag after bag trying to find a like the cheese. It's like where there's like a couple toasty ones and somebody requested. Like they should make a whole one of just the toasted cheese hits and they didn't ted. Oh exists now everywhere. Oh it's literally just all the toasted ones they have them in stores. You buy toasted tells us it. I tried the The puffy the doritos three chips. Other day they don't taste like what they're pretty. Close bugles. now it's supposed to be like thinner. Thinner arear like air rear area airy. Yeah and it's not because remember how small was was like this small and it was like the poof was like very like yeah over exaggerated poop but this one is just like a very regular like like hanalani dot. Chip does wasn't it. Yeah right. don't they have like somewhere in their files like the formula for the doritos treaties have. Why don't they volt. Your recipes have changed since the nineties. Were like how we can put that much sodium in it but there's already so much sodium you might as well just fuck in. Oh have you ever seen cereal from leg the sixties and the fifties. Everything in the name was like sugar. Something it was like sugar snap pob crispy like super sugar crisp. And it was like this. Hugh like everything was about like telling people how sugary it was and then like it came out like sugar is bad and like kids were told not to eat sugar because it's bad for you so they had to rebrand and rename every single cereal and get rid of sugar from the name down in mexico. All of this cereals don't have the characters on them. Really why. I saw take talk of that. Is someone going down the aisle and all the characters are missing on all of it because they don't want cartoon characters like endorsing the sugary products interesting. Because because it's like it's like putting a member who is the the camel the joe camel the camel. Who's for tamil cigarettes. Yeah they're still did want him because he looks like a cartoon it look so inviting. I dunno also. They did so just. The kids feel like they like magnetized towards the product. God it But that's a that's a smart call. It's my cereals based on the best logo me to whoever's got the mascot Tony the tiger. I link this cinnamon toast crunch. Is that a man or a woman. It's a man so old guy with the white right. Know what cinnamon toast crunch the taste. You can see the glasses. The white haired man. That's a dude. Yeah i'll i'm not here to gender identity. I that that's a dude. Yeah because i really never spoke. I've ever seen commercials of that dude are of the you know. I thought it was an old grandmother. Heat who i would love to meet the honey. Bunches of oats lady yes. She's still working at the factory shoe. So like no smith so inviting all the commercials also like cereal right now. Yeah where is she. Where is she now. We get her on a windy. Thomas you get her on. I'm on come on everybody. That's ever been like a mask. Offer company just in that in that pine sol lady power pass double guessed the two guys from sonic the two guys that were in the car for. That's fun but we could get them on. But i don't know if they want to be tied to sonic like is their contracts still. I don't want a long time. All right well p- that is it for this episode of zany filter. Ya guys would be through another episode. I can't believe we're almost into season three. We have pretty cool. Would we deal missed right. What we haven't missed no episodes here we go through when there's we. Yeah we we miscalculated. There's a missing episode. Oh we've liked taken break out in like. Yeah what do you mean not leaving the seasons. The pandemic started. no no. I think she saw him like. Is there any one. Yeah we missed any episodes. Like i missed a week. Oh yeah yeah a couple of times. Oh really yeah. We went like a month and a half with posting remember now. I don't remember the beginning of the pan-demic we try. We try doing the Zoom this god about old so raw and then we took a break between season. One and season to build the south or toyota. That was two weeks cool but for the most part we've been going missing just because like we were not going to be here this week. Okay yeah yeah. We were pretty good. Wow we kept the show running as best as we possibly could As you guys know you could find us on spotify apple however you listen to podcasts audio. Every single monday tuesday is video on youtube dot com slash zane. And he on one more thing. Make sure go to trader joe's and get their lemon tarts. it's very good and very delicious We had almost the whole box. Were acidity working. We were sorry. We took a lot of breaks But you guys thanks for watching and we will see you next week bye.

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Part 2: Sandra Tsing Loh, plus The News (ACS June 11)

The Adam Carolla Show

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Part 2: Sandra Tsing Loh, plus The News (ACS June 11)

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Having a strong opinion about a judge you can leave us a message at eight six three four one. Seven four four. Not for the middle class very true. Sandra sing low has joined us the show. The bitch is back at streaming on demand. June twenty third. Through the thirtieth. And you can get tickets and information by visiting the broad stage dot org good to see you nice to be here I was noticing that you were raised in malibu alley. Yeah and. I spent some time in malibu and walking around a lot and looking at buildings look at it houses. They're building on pch. One was for sale for like forty nine billion dollars. There's another one triple lot one. They're building with the case on rigs and stops gotta to be someone's gonna win sixty five million dollars that but if you talk to guys like rob lowe who grew up out. There are bound our age. He's like we rode horses. Kind of a podunk town. There wasn't much going on. So tell us we'll start more move toward the future in pasadena. But what was malibu. Like in the seventies so malibu middle school in the nineteen seventies is horrific. Was malibu park junior high school. There was no high school so what many don't know is there. I was one of the poor of malibu so my father was a chinese engineer from shanghai and he worked at hughes research labs with was up there so we nerd kids were flung into school with. They were even movie star. Kids then in the seventies like flip wilson son was there christie macnichol. And it's kind of like an my computer date. He never showed up was the first time they try was chad mcqueen. Wow okay so you can imagine so my mother. My mother's remain. She's a head taller than my father. Who's chinese we are so nerdy. The kids are chinese german. So we look hispanic my mother's dressing us up and heidi. The upside during does unclog defended the sound of music. Limburg or cheese sandwich Send you more dental. Yeah those those things. 'cause ringlets and chad mcqueen so middle schools already so horrific and then not only. Are your peers. Movie stars sean. Penn was vice president of cowboys thing and and president of the surfing club and so chad mcqueen. His dad is steve mcqueen and his mother's alley mcgraw and she's speeds up to school in a red convertible afterwards and he's their son and that he's the computer date he doesn't show up piece he just you know it was really horrific. That's devastating. yeah i of. His name is chad mcqueen even if he was from for anyone. Still yeah the coolest name of the seventies and also you brought up flip wilson. We're talking about catchphrases or calling cars. He would do geraldine. Brian black woman. Then he'd go back off sucker. You can find geraldine back. He'd get away with so much. That wasn't entertainment back. Then back off sucker or some version of that backs and lee. Marvin bortles lee. Marvin's house and the children were scared. Because he'd be like so drunk all and me who is not a happy drunk. He was like a mean drunk. Yeah absolutely emilio estevez. Nice nice rob lowe was so it was like but it was really surreal and i think even at that particular time. These these kids were already kind of famous. Well here's a hypothetical question for everybody. And i for some reason. I have some weird recollection of lee marvin. Being one of the first palimony guys there may have been a famous lee marvin case with palimony and that he lived in malveaux and he had like a live in girlfriend for ten years and then they broke up and she's like well. We didn't get married by blue yet. Thirteen hundred turns recourse. Gotta be worth a car. I think giving lee marvin. I've sketchy recollections. so here's the hypothetical. Would you rather be the dorky kid. That's growing up in the coolest place in the world with the coolest people definitely. I mean doesn't sound great but on the other hand dorky kid with just a pool of dorky dumb working so i sort of grow up. That's not great shakes either because you get to go to leave. Marvin's house shitty apartment van. I yeah you center way better cocktail stories than you do. Cocktail party stories. Well i don't think we did many of those actually but it was very unsupervised in the seventies. I mean girls. I mean it was awful like the children like bob awesome. Depending on running. Around and maria was his daughter really cool like went immediately to orthodox jewish high school. It's like i can't take this anymore. It was a real the seventies. Were real free to be me. And so what it was. Because i grew up around that kind of hippie ethos too which is like they kind of did this thing like. Hey they're human beings. They're not kids they have. They can make their own decision. They wanna go to bed. But it's really. It's like. I want to go into this room and get high and i don't wanna fuck and make an omelet guilty about so you're now you're noun adult i even though you're loving go with them. And fuck you want. That was kind of a seventies thing. But yeah and there's a lot of experimentation with kind of like not like clubs like boys rap or automotive mechanics and girls would take that and a little bit of home. So they were trying to do outdated kind of internet the punch hook arague and that sort of poetry brock poetry but didn't really groom us for then you had to build basically bus yourself. Santa monica our each samo high care because that's the nearest high school forty-five minutes away but still must've been kind of nice up in that malibu environment as a young person. I suppose the palm trees and the puka shell biller. Outposts shirts and the girls had the jordache jeans manda fair jeans and the cork wedgies gina. You're too young. That man fares fair and then the chaminda fair but probably would take on it. It's good if you're chad mcqueen. Dad's steve mcqueen. You got this. Lucas shells not the fake plastic ones from zodiac hawaiian conead fukushima. Dad's the king of cool. You're you gotta every mini bike and go car all the stuff. You got the right hair for the time. Yeah that that kind of parking very important to have that so you probably stood out a little bit then in probably do mcqueen wrong. The wrong hair and then i tried to get firms like the jackson. Hey we should like jackson five. The unknown member of the jackson the fro. This bitch dole horrible trouble. But you're a hairdresser. Asian comes in and wants you have to reduce sierra back. You've had over sir. No harm to talk jane seymour. Ringlets battle star galactica. And nobody can get those. Look at your. You landed on your feet well so then for you. Is it lee marvin with palimony. I think of another actor. Exactly the same. I looked up palimony. Entry pedia and there is a separate subsection for marvin versus marvin. Wow there was like a notable case. Okay thank you brian. Not that he would sue at this point. We think skill at least gotta be gone. But the i guess he may have been one of the pioneers of the palimony eating yeah. I don't know i'd be curious to get cures more about that one. I don't know how work i feel like. She would have to have one. If that's what you know it. You know what i mean like. It would've just been another guy that tried to get out of it now. Is that surely. She'd have to sue him for palimony. We have to be in love with somebody coming up with the term palimony. Just love now. It's so much better than benefactor. And then i don't know what happened after that because i was fourteen and didn't give shit so a. Where does the the comedy. The commentary start for years so i went to caltech and majored in physics which he didn't know very much about 'cause my father's shanghai and he was chinese so i went into liberal arts which to chinese father's like pull dancing and i like to say it's like so i realized i was not very good at physics. I worked at hughes aircraft company for a while. And i am not a person that you want to work on that. Just say so. I just started coming up through clubs at that time At my place was in santa monica and kind of doing that sort of thing. Public radio was coming in. This american life was not even that kind of show yet so it was a great time in the nineties for sas and writers and commentators humorist all that kind of thing. So i kind of went from there and then wrote books and theater and kind of went all back from forth was it always wanted to do. And you feel like you've got kind of pushed into the Hughes and co in more of the technical side of life. I wanted to do something at and again when you're raised like that with those kinds of parents it's like go into aerospace engineering or you'll starve. And meanwhile a few years later the aircraft industry crashes so so. It's definitely that journey. Yeah i don't think. Chad mcqueen is fair as well as you i. I've interviewed him before this race. Cars though he's always i mean there's another careful what you wish for. Your dad is mister car guy. He's mr cool guy and really no matter what you do still just that guy. Who's kind of fall you know. It's like the people who didn't start the business but they're they're they've inherited the business better job running the business but they didn't start it. Yeah i think that's that's kind of podcasting. Mcqueen died nineteen eighty by the way. He's title damn time ago What is ali mcgraw. I i think she's still alive. I would i would I would think is when did lee marvin die. That's the real quick. Probably hurt himself was walking back to his car after he lost his palimony lee. Marvin died in eighty seven. Wow sixty three and allie mcgraw's eighty two. Wow but ben vereen outlived them on. He got hit got run over a. That's right he. I think he lived. Oh yeah yeah. I think he's still alive. He's seventy four over to gene hackman. Gene hackman got ran over. So yeah why wouldn't like the villagers or something like the village per se. Retirement community looked out data waking up. So let's talk about The bitch is back which I was looking for clips. So i could talk about it but i couldn't find any. I don't know if they're not on the internet or thing that streaming sewing streaming on demand is the actual whole show. And so that was at the broad. Sage was like a cabaret for matinees. Serve the audience drinks. We were going so this is based on this book. The madwoman in the volver that or a few years ago and my editor at the atlantic kept saying you should write about menopause. But it was my forties i go. I don't want to write about it now. No no no and then it came on. And then i started writing about it so the menopause which is such an unsexy thing but an topic but it can start as early as in your thirties and last between four and fifteen years. So it's a really want so by five thirty so on to are with this book. The madwoman vulva. But i found like bookstore. I usually really boring bookstore and folding chairs and like whatever and then. I started getting invited to these house. Parties of these women were throwing and these women when they get forty five and up. They're crazy so they'll be. Why up weird. Hats carrying like johnny walker. You know the one with the handle on it. I am scared. Because when they're menopause is screaming out get off fuck anymore be bleeped whatever they go and drawing eating cheese and just wedding and i go. I don't wanna go like. I can't just read from my book. So just go out there and so i just inferior. Just start doing like a couple of riffs that they would enjoy and then get off and fifteen minutes you know. What about those costco samples get stoned to go to michael's and god who wants to get on like this whole you know and so that that became the show. I had to do the show very last minute of the proud. Just put those rants together and then did that. So that's how that came out. The show of panic. Doctor talks about menopause as it pertains to his wife who didn't need to get any crazier but evidently didn't think it's possible. This one goes to eleven. But i he said to saas thrown man huge difference that a lot of women are suffering and getting into menopause. I don't really know what's going. On and testosterone makes a huge difference balances out the estrogen. Yeah or just testosterone therapy for women. Going into menopause are in the throes of shrink huge. He'll big difference. Okay yeah because what happens. When people think of menopausal they think of it at all and they try not to their mother suddenly going crazy instead of driving those dishes hurling through the window and hurling a leg of lamb late last with somebody suddenly snapping but it turns out that the theory of menopause is that really the changes. When you're twelve and your a girl and you're just like any other boy kind of selfish and you don't wash your hair and you smell bad and play with your horses. You don't care what. And then the estrogen cloud comes down and then you start worrying about boys and shampooing your hair all the strawberry vanilla shampoos and pleasing people and then so the estrogen has to kick in for those thirty years that you're making children pregnant and in fact your memory gets repressed and your anger gets repressed because evolutionary early. It was not good for women to remember what the other tribe did and go attack them. They take care of the children so about forty six. That cloud starts to lift and then the women wake up and go. Why the hell am i waking making sandwiches for you guys. You know you're seven tom. They start hurling the sandwiches. So it's sort of a return back to yourself. Which is the idea of. The bitch is back that ad that's coming back to your own end. The testarossa and there are elevated levels of testosterone in women's levels. When they're menopausal and they mustaches and again i agree. Actually you do kinda grow a lot of hair in different places bullshit. How i don't know the science behind it. But i talked to dr grew about this more than once and somehow this is a good thing. Well i i've been a fan i along. I'm so happy. You're here. And i was even talking about how the low-life your segment on on the radio really kind of defined my driving time in la for so many years and you're very open and you do it in this really humorous way but i you have two daughters. Yes how do they. How have they sort of felt growing up with a mom that is so open about your life about their life about Divorcing about stuff about the kids when they were growing up they just didn't know and they weren't didn't really follow it very much and then although in middle school because i did blow up my marriage speaking of road trips in las vegas took an rv much burning. Man blew up my marriage about age. Forty six and it was horrible and my oldest daughter was in middle school so kind of milliken models. Couldn't they wouldn't go their parents come. Sandra pretty bad millions in the san fernando valley in city so a lot of people go in the in the beautiful valley. Because i ended up in van nuys. Thank you number. Malibu van is now. Yeah that joke. What's the quickest way to get to the valley. Mary a musician off now is it. So is sherman. Oaks that jason van or not like valley valley glen. That don't have those is is rough out of the hot up into the snowbank we'd say van is a very good place to buy tile so much good Yeah yup tile there so yeah so. That was pretty hard nowadays. Just ignore ignored. They finish like it's a family business making doughnuts. They don't really pay much attention to it so they so they are. Nineteen and twenty one just graduated. Uc santa barbara others at berkeley. And the and they are a trans. So they're now they are they both they. The older one is a she and the younger one is a day only says she learned through. I mean from soup-to-nuts offensive but just trying to get clarity. Soup-to-nuts knows soup to nuts. Yeah i don't know what kind of i can't even go there. It's not working that's okay soup-to-nuts and then m n Younger one it is. Let's sue soup and then presenting the sound. Okay madeleine is the zolder one win. Okay toe still caller madel saying non binary graduated in age twenty. Yes yes yes me an art. What could go wrong gaucho. Show exactly just had graduation. This week oprah oprah had to walk down the golf partly backyard She's a good student then right. She started six she learnt and blew out of there. They a lot of. Ap credits blew through. You know graduating into what's next. I go into those The adventure starts now balloons at the ralph's behind me in line of women said what adventure go. I don't know what they asking about the literally. Maybe the bloom coming off. The rose a little bit but when i was young if in fact you were present a young woman like when i was like twenty three if you bought a woman a bouquet of roses. You gotta go to luca lake floor as it was ninety nine boxes discussing discussions of breath and things of that nature. Now there's the guatemalan check out front of the circle k. Pretty nice bouquet. Going fourteen seventeen bucks and then you go the rouse and the got all the mylar balloon laurel it take a little off it for the ladies you because it always seemed to be effort base right for me like if i said i got my girlfriend tori. Amos's flowers to them. She left behind at the studio. I presented them girlfriend not pleased. Because these were sloppy flower seconds from tori amos versus versus the pain. It is guys spend eighty nine bucks to look alike. She floor of the rights. I'm just saying guy coming home with. Flowers is cool but the guy going. I've just buying a six pack and the quantum all chick caught me the car. When i was walking back out to the truck and then i just gave her twenty bucks in here. He goes like i wouldn't count you that way but what i'm saying is same thing or less effort involved in two different places. Same and fifty nine. So i i in the set. Like i went to college in seventy nine hundred eighty three. We're kind of in that way. The sexual liberation so now instead of the guy coming in the car on giving you the flowers and paying for dinner. It's like you have to go dutch at the local macrobiotic restaurant. There are no flowers and you have to sleep with him on the first date because otherwise frigid and we had diaphragms gina. This is before your time checking that dusted with quarterback in the morning you had to lend him twenty bucks for his glory and take his his schieffer flyers to put up in the so. There were no flower. It's three dollar ninety. Nine carnations would have been good so where i grew up. Malibu valley hasna. There is nothing was. Did you give flowers. And now now. And i think the i hear you. I think this is. What as a female and sandra please let me know if you feel the same way. It's treated you better. It's no longer about the flowers it's about how they're wrapped because you can tell very nice place from a beautiful like butcher paper with twenty get as opposed to like a crinkly plastic with a sticker on it tomorrow. Yeah so just get the by forest lawn pop off that plastic wrapping and rep line around it. Yeah that's a good. From where. I'm peter smart so you'd never got flowers. Yeah oh no never no. We always had to lend them money and then they would cry about their father's. It's not a fun. Timethe and the maleness. that's the man. Show your important american contribution to the media landscape. It's like you're not even they would wine and we had to pay for them and it was just i think i think the moral of the story is both sexes. Both directions and we were always kind of asking to meet in the middle. But i don't know. Do we really want that. I i think. I you know when you know i don't want itself fucked out but when you're laying in bed and you hear the window break at night you don't want to just look at each other in bed with your band. The guy was pick up a pool. Cue i'll take care of this lock the door behind me. Whatever that's the thing in our house everyone does the dishes. Everyone folds laundry. But i saw a cockroach. Two nights ago that you could have put a saddle on. I freaked out. I screamed. I got on the bed and i don't know what andy's feelings are about cockroaches and i don't want to know i just want him to take care of it if you scared like he'll keep it to himself. I won't be doing that. Does he have a baseball bat. Some do the bad. Yeah they should have that take care of. Insects is considered manly. The one manly thing. I do on the i don't any plumbing issues. That's not. yeah that's all. I look along by the leg. Frigging my wife. My daughter a four year old daughter. Look she freaked out. She hit it so much. You got an auger. You got a snake. That toilet flushing organism though balka exactly oh my god not so much with the smart boards on refrigerators. And so you don't have to do that. No of course not no no no no actual the expert keyboard. Yeah so the show. Let's get back to the show. Sorry the bitch is back Our ninety minutes. Let's go seventy s straight through. No intermission addis. Like my journey through menopause. And we say we're going to bar the doors 'cause you can't leave But it is like just melting down in the middle of a woman's life and it's interesting. 'cause i was driving in the valley when this happened at the of like you know roscoe in sherman way and then a man said later. There is no intersection of direction. There was that day. I remember it. It can be so many things happen while driving and kind of it was like this meltdown moment about h. forty-six driving going to get the good pizza for my kids. And listen to the radio. My starbucks venti latte with four splendors or whatever and then somebody realized that i just couldn't handle it like i went to die. I don't want to live at that. Big hormonal changes triggered this whole show. So it's interesting like women have so many different symptoms when they're menopausal bloated angry fat forgetful menopause. Yeah exactly and some women haven't slept through the flight for years and years and years and sometimes in the middle of the afternoon this you know generic wet men and women. It's like sometimes the only thing that holds you together. It's like this costco samples. But actually i'll go to the audience ago. Which store gives the best samples on three. And i'll go one and you go costco issues and we'll go bristol farms. It's like you're in the expensive seats and that's what you miss kind of like costco. You could get the four stages of costco by the massage chair and the jewelry cabinet really get a full meal back in the day which we don't have now well really as i think about it. I don't i don't spend a lot time to cosco. But jimmy kimmel does made the cover of magazine la la multiple times christian show. Yeah i think we made the cover. Kirkland whatever it s curves in kirkland swim sir very nice better than at traderjoes flyer made the cover. He's made the cover. Okay the point is the and i used to go to costco with him and out here. The pan is our burbank whatever's chairman beauty beauty. I've now realized of the samples so they never really thought about the crazy. Allure the samples It's not about money because the shit they're selling it. It's really. it's not a price issue per se for folks in adults in our bracket it's they're selling quiche. It's eight eight dollars not like getting free. I'm getting a nickel's worth of freaky. It's not that it's the guilt in the eating of what you're eating because this is manslaughter. Not murder one you buy the key should bring it home and your bacon on you right as murder one. That is a big dive for pa. You're walking past quiche. This difference between us rolling so the new finding a wallet right and the people that the reason you loved costco so much is because it's like well it's not on my diet but all the other hand i didn't plan this. This is like it's like your show burns. Someone spiked your pets. Your fresca or something. I didn't do this to me. That's called a free laps. A free laps at costco. So you can eat as much. Fattening junky stuff. Is you one. Yeah it's not on you doesn't count against you and your diet and they come in such small pieces that you can eat fourteen of them. Right guilt free. I think that's the real allure right and you taking one for my kids right. Where zone of living with their steps. You always have to feel guilty especially after the second or third you take the item and then you just go. Put it behind the tires better samples. The farmers market has costco therefore five or six station. Every single tent has a sample by much more compelled rusher. Yes lesbian cop paul. Subaru broke down the way and this is kind of their living. Can't eat four pieces of their cheese and keep walking right please don. We'll come back on our way out. How what's your batting average buying samples. mine's pretty good. Compared to i went to the ralph's they had smoked cheese tasting. I want this good. I'll i'll buy one in ravioli. What sounds pretty good. Because i only simple things that i would like. You know what. I mean so more prone to buy them anyway. Like i'm gonna say something. Like i have no interest What can't pumpkin do really does apply. But you know the worst san joaquin trader. Joe's obviously the buckwheat pasta the shift. Xactly too small. Yeah also last. Chris didn't ask for that. no now. Maybe it's the age of the person Dispatching the samples trader. Joe's excu young young back corner. I like the last stop before the grave. Things didn't work out net. Don't want to be. i'm not heading up. I'm heading down. This is where i'm going. I i kind of like that. I want to defeat in the is a little. And i also like the take to take five. Take the fucking skillet. i'm here. I'm gonna. i'm getting paid either way. Yeah that smart. Yeah all right so trader. Joe's not good costco. Good very good and then what was it. so far. that's amazing. Somebody farmers market farmers good-looking. That person the i'd be like you dedicated your life to this. She out of here so interesting. Time that we're living in in that. We sorta simultaneously have this birth of farmers markets and people shopping for you and bringing food your groceries house. Which is the the two extremes of providing for yourself right but for some and is see. I always have this theory which is I always kind of say well. The more safe spaces we create the more octagon. So we're gonna have and the more prius. Is that drive around the more gps with lift kits. We're going to see way so the more people ordering groceries online that will give way to more farmers markets. Because it's like we always have to push back against this thing and you know who's gonna save us. All people like me. Who i know for a fact i am not good enough for instacart. I'm not gonna spend earmark that money. That i worked for. Give it to someone else. Like some french queen and wait around binging tv having someone bring it to me. Yeah yeah pm for like me we will. You're always gonna be disappointed like your calls and avocado there. Go the fuck. They're put your fucking sweat pants on your lazy sack fucking shop like a human being compared ham i never. I didn't exclusively during a kobe shoe store. And yes many times. I was like fuck the annapolis fucking call or text you all the time. Yeah and you can't find this. What about those right. Oh god i did it. And i got i got. I got an extra bag of shit. That wasn't mine to then. I got angry at the person. What kind of toothpaste. Why don't you should have known toothpaste deodorant. But it was supposed shit you what the fuck deliverable. They have to do something with that so if someone offered us about this bag on liberal. Do you want it. And we're like share and like we actually had the phone like do. We want someone else's romain lettuce. It was in the store go. Why not a. Yeah i got. I had this happen once. When i ordered thai food and they brought over the wrong thai food and my thing was well as long as they ordered. Shit i would have liked anyway. Definitely gonna eat it. And i opened it up and it was the first one was beef. Salad be found. That said us immediately angry at the person who ordered cold beach. Be south here. Believe you may leave salad. I don't get it was at larvae. It's sliced up cold beef amongst lettuce and whatever. It's a hat which unfortunately am because of the covid. The pandemic yeah. That's exactly what we would eat a be sadly be feels like to me. I want savory with my beef and the cold beef removes the savory all right well you're going to hang around center and do The news with us all right. Why don't we do that. We'll take a quick break. We'll come back and do the news news. Gino graphic break. We're contest you're being stuffing saw of joe by gene. The news with gene grab first before we get into it. Let's do the breaking news that there are gifts for us here gifts for you okay. These are post pandemic gifts as i move conveniently away from my goodness. You're each getting this in your own. Kobe safe curbside back because last year. I did kobe safe. Signings of my fucking driveway. So you're getting this is your this is actually for adam. So this is your madwoman. Abobo wine glass. Oh i've augmented it to have a lower lesson that dr oz recommends and weight watchers three point shooter then up. Here's mad woman. But way above that is the main professional calligrapher or an amazing might want to wash. Because i never watched any here. Is the issue some. These are going away but these are the quarantine cocktail route. Thank you wanted to complement your glass. Because i'm having a flashback. So it's it's a glass tumbler. Yes is about seventy eight ounces and it's got the lines on it. The low line is the doctor recommends we talked about this. A little splash of wine or scotch or whatever but that's the weight watchers and then the madwoman of course near the top. Because i'm having a flashback. When i was young. And we're living. Our first department had a shot glass and at the bottom. There's a line about a caffeine. From the bottom of the shaft glenn said hog and then one up about an inch and a half and so we have to ourselves shots and nobody wanted to hog wanted to the man poor but i have not seen a glass. It's good graduate right now. You have a now each of you have and you get a glass and you get an. There's a lighter docked. Mr lows not afraid to be naked. It's a malibu thing of a later. If you look at. Make it known as the naked man of malibu so he would do handstands naked in malibu as allen. Mccraw was speeding by he would steal women. Speedo dumpster and hitchhike on pacific coast. Highway did not get beat. Like ben vereen did not get hit. But it's not lighter. Dan you see that lot. Yeah there you go ask well. Let me say this defense your dad. No one wants to see their parents doing a nude at much. But the diminutive asian man is about the best place you're gonna land for. That is the guy. That's much more damaging rick psyche. Big women's speed murders the bottom part. So now okay in the pandemic. It's kind of like a women of a certain age like after the age of fifty g and i have many years ago. Instead of becoming fatter we become more goddess. Like when the pandemic there have been elastic way. Stretch pants fat pants. But i'm calling them goddess pats. I'm wearing some great love. love them you. Each are getting a pair can pick your own color. I more about this yet. The women's colors are midnight purple emerald green cherkaoui aisles. Oh oh and then rocky horror magenta and then firefly read. That's you get the man's colors which are a purple haze selectric moss young. I liked the aquaman mankind summer. So are half the half these. Are the dragon drag gina. You're gonna take the i mean. I love a good pink panther. You're going way bryan. Oh my gosh. What's your masculinity emerald green or this election mosque to match. There you go. You've been swag. Thank you amazing. Okay these on right now. Struck by a car in the florida keys twenty twelve. Wow that is raking. Thank you so Thank you so much Let's do a little update on the guy who slapped mccrone. By the way sandra. I've just come out the candle. It's a candle. That smells like my balls. Oh i'd like to present it. Oh i wanna smell your ball. Oh because remember when paltrow had this smells like name is gina now. Yeah it's nice so people's nice to stage manila quality candle as well. Burn long and bright for you. Now by the way bill come for so the guy who slapped macron he is. He has been charged. Let's use your dad's naked before this is so special. I falls in. This is beautiful old balls a unity candle now. Oh my god. I feel like we should dedicate entire episode. Your father well. There's the color that's lovely. Put it out. dove in. Malibu expired expired sushi right starbucks. Pull those starbucks together of other people's things at the malibu Start back to you jean. I'm sorry i want overtaking. Taking as usual. Oh my god okay will. I mean let's do this if we have to. So the man who was caught on video slapping emmanuel macron across the face earlier this week has been handed a four month. Prison sentence In an emergency trial. Twenty eight year old damian. Terrell was found guilty of violence against a person invested with public authority following. The incident macron was conducting this meet and greet with members of this of public and terrell kind of smack him in the face. Why did he do it. Trump told the court when i saw his friendly lying look. I felt disgust. And i had a violent reaction. Why wasn't impulsive reaction. I was surprised but myself now. Apparently there was a group of friends considering bringing an egg or cream pie to throw it to throw at the president but he didn't say just smack the cream pie guy and a wild thing for a little while it was the thing on like sitcoms was it was somebody was doing matarese. We have a weird thing. We haven't seen pit bulls attack for like seven months and then they lay off twenty years. There's freeway shootings at work for like three weeks. And then they go away for twenty hours like the back of their back right. The cream pie in the face like soccer. Berg got pied maybe it was. It was famous rich. People people were getting getting. Yeah we should bring that back. Get comfortable please. You know that trump is gone. It's great canada's scandalous again. Right canada's geng. Yeah so remember again. it can't be. it's it's not just you. These chairs are spring like a pie in the face thing so remember how we kind of said it's a slippery slope with the vaccine cards and you know there's ways around that well guess what. The new problem is so fox news reports. That man was charged. Wednesday was stealing hundreds of blank. Covid nineteen vaccine cards from a southern california vaccination center muhammed relative. Ahmed of vegas allegedly took more than five hundred cards from the pomona. Fairplex the former. La city contract worker was charged with one felony. Count of grand theft and he scheduled to be arraigned In la county in august. The case remains under investigation. But okay so you just steal cards. Okay now you buy. I just felt feels like a target of opportunity like someone left it out. And he's just walking by. But still no i would not but yeah you know a few several years ago not too many when the price of copper got really expensive and people were stealing copper wire like going outside at night and polling twitter part like pulling a point realize oh we can do anything. We're we're stealing wire of purses vaccine cars. What's not on the table. When we're pulling wiring out of conduit like out in the street at night so i think we're capable of anything. I think you're right so so good here. We have a little follow up to the lilibet scandal. Oh god so. Prince harry and meghan markle are threatening the bbc after the network reported that the former royals didn't ask the queen's blessing to name their infant lilibet. And we talked about that. According to the bbc a buckingham palace source claims queen. Elizabeth was never asked about it. Now according to the daily beast. Harry and meghan legal team has issued a rare legal warning to the papers advising them not to repeat the allegation that the couple had named their second child after queen. Farce the your legal team you want to be on. That's not the project in since now working in dade county area. You know what i mean. That's a full-blown bomber for cardi b. On the royals illegal queen didn't give permission to use her nickname. A first name was really powdered wig. I think you're absolutely curtsy sue. You're asked that's the team to be on foods actually travels grade per you. Know you stay in the swing of buckingham palace. We'll get we'll have you on retainer sweets gigi right by the way. I sent this story to brian earlier. You know who's on team. Who's the other one william anti matter. Anti anti harry is is it normal noel. Gallagher said it's you know. Keller calls harry tuttle snowflake or something. Because he's like. I know it's like when a brother gets in the middle of family visits starts blowing up your shit all over the place. Bet guy so yeah. Apparently nolan liam's bad. Blood is still raging. So now the controversy about little bit or whatever. That was the queen's nicknames. Thank you monster. You'd think so but if it's like a if it was a private joke in the family and the queen is supposed to be the most dignified human on the planet. Maybe she's not down so they should've asked i guess. How long are we going to keep these efforts in the news. It's unbelievable these are. These are headline agree. But i think we like it because our news is like the six year old was shot in the back through the baby seat on in pomona on her weight appreciable we got did she use her fake. They you now. It's a much needed and welcome distraction. Yes all right. Speaking of which david hasselhoff received here in a video encouraging germans to get vaccinated loyalty to clips these are both going to be a double barrelled. Goodness the psa was released on monday and includes a sixty eight year old baywatch alum showing off his band aid and giving a little speech. Here's his video. The germans air no all right. I david hasselhoff supposedly a hero because of baywatch and knight rider and the berlin wall. But i found freedom with vaccination. You can to what is talking about you ask well. I did a little digging concert. like moments. Run wall fell. I'm going to give a preemptive. You're welcome for finding a video so he did this giant german festival concert and his performance was a song called looking for freedom while being suspended above the berlin wall. On new year's eve nineteen eighty-nine. Oh here's a clip of that concert for. It's like dessert. It's a pallet cleanser jacket out the chaser lights on that jacket just warm. It kicks looking. Remember that the idea. I'm certainly concern to look for my exit country. Yeah he has it all realize we talked about. Seagal and russia got Dennis rodman in north korea. Look i'm getting to that point my career looking for an exit contrary and no one ever checks up. You just go. I'm huge and croatia. that's right. I'm fucking huge fucking love me. No one goes well. Let me go there. Investigate parola user reagan cry fucking nominee for u Hungary hungary the hungarian. No one knows the food gary. I'm not gonna be able to knock off. the gabor. Sisters play podium over there and hungary the food croatia supposed to be the new honeymoon destination. Spot is budapest explained. That i'm here and the normal bail to verify budapest unkillable in baywatch. She was already old is about fifty to surround himself with young people on their rubber. So it's amazing. He survived her kids yourself but he also wanted to rocky horror in fishnets and heels so that might be the next like the whole he did. Yeah he's always a longtime caitlyn jenner phase. Could that true. I never thought about think about it. I would love them over again. Yeah well speaking of this Speaking of things. I have fallen in love with jessica. Chastain is making a new movie that has everybody buzzing by everybody. I need me. Tammy faye bakker and the up coming movie. The eyes of tammy faye it's doing theater. September seventeenth just in time for the launch of award season the movie features oscar. The oscar nominated actress as the former televangelist tv personality. Tammy faye bakker directed by michael showalter of the state And also there's doc which i highly recommend of the same name the eyes of tammy faye you've seen it many. I guess who is playing jim. Baker andrew garfield park man. Yeah and it kind of works. I'll you here's a side by side of the original. The real jim tammy faye yeah look at. That is good exactly is like our jaw and everything. Those new mola heavy makeup and prosthetics tell job so that is going to. That'll be in theaters in september. The big sick. He directed the big real good. Yeah he directed that. I didn't know that. Well you know after the whole behind the candelabra thing you can never say no to anything right you hear about in advance because what now back dame fuck all of a sudden my favorite film of the year. So that in mind. You can't say no in advance to any idea for any film ever or the casting of your movie was fantastic. That's right sky just the trailer alone. It's funny that you said that because this kind of has that feel a little bit a little a little winky a little. You know a little talking through though with this subject matter. Yeah so very excited about that. Are you familiar. sure sandra. You're you're very you know things For the rest of you. Are you familiar with angry. You know what that is. I love her. she's great stuff called amber. Greece hasn't asked. But i think it's pronounced ambery answer. So yeah i saw master and commander opening a default to sandra one. Wait what's the question. Do you say amber greece umbrellas to this show. I thought ranch is peanut butter cups or only know it from watching the ron howard moby dick movie. Maybe yeah but they're tiny. I'm going off a hell time. You guys send it at no anyway. Anyway i'm familiar with what you said. Is it now. i'm just gonna keep calling an angry. Like i said we've say the mall. What is the well once you can do it either way. 'cause look they're gamblers. You don't wanna push gina you may snap very close to three three prepayment risk no matter what are thirty. Five man. Fishing crew working off yemen netted this fine of a lifetime. They called in one point. Five million dollars worth of wail vomit. Which is what angry is according to yahoo. News is greece. Who knows what's here. The robot's saying you can believe a robot over me and sandra whatever page ember gris. Okay great fine. Anyway is substance found in the digestive system of sperm whales. According to the uk's natural history museum this substance is often called the treasure of the sea and floating gold because it's super rare. It's used in high end perfumes to make the sent last longer and when fishing craft beer libya okay. How far out guys. That's your you're dangerously close to a seinfeld joke. Never the body part store is it. Clitoris or clitoris. I i will tell you. I got into a very heated argument with my grandmother. Oh god grandma. Grandma like brian grandmother. He made me. She's mean and part of mean is correcting everyone around them. All all the time and We have an argument. Because i said close taurus. And she's like cliffs. And then i was like grandma. We had a very strange relationship and then we went to my deceased grandfather's oversize dictionary. Look it up. See pick argument at our house and then. Now here's my. Here's my grandma's a bitch. Because i remember this very clearly show she. She would say she would. She would go ameri kendrick doctor and he says clitoris and i would go well. Dr drew doctor and he says the clitoris chicago. Emory kennedy dr. Like somehow her doctor brand. Somehow i couldn't have dr friends of mine. Were like you know dr pepper. She's got real friends. So did we ever figure that out. We went and looked it up and either way but greece not three soclean victory. You've never looked both ways. She knows what she knows you know. She knew what she knew. She walked away with her head held. High my grandma did that all the time. The fucking correcting the seeking to see i was like oh my real utah disneyland. I love pirates of the caribbean right. Yes you don't know what you were on. So i think if you look up taurus clitoris just goes either way by the way we don't need to fucking dictionary to have flip a coin fucking satellite. We're having an argument here. Everyone whatever it's all day we review you for. Thank you right if you have to ask right. So this fishing crew took this whale apart that they got this net and was a two hundred eighty pound lump of amber greece in belly. You want to know why how this is formed because this is fascinating and disgusting scientists believe that the rare substance is produced because of the huge volume of cephalopods like squid and octopus that sperm whales consume the whales are able to digest the sharp beaks of these cephalopods and on rare occasion the mass of squid beaks and other biological material may be combined with a waxy secretion from the intestines. And that's how it's formed good name for jesus vs squid. Be boy notes. A lot of talk rich man. Poor man. ambris is for high end perfumes. Do you know what is for. i guess. Low and perfumes at the us to make the sense stay on longer cat pay. No it makes it like a small percentage of foul smelling stuff. Yeah yeah learn. Premarin was named after morris speed urine. Not since then have been so disgusted at a revelation. Let's do one more okay. Let's see here okay. Well this is just if anyone marvins divorce some followup up amber greece. I wonder if being wired tread on his back. Lee marvin did he lose money to the after cut a check. Is it a precedent that he start this whole palimony videos. The i like notable cases. People call like marvin settlements after that. They're oh that's how i read. That's what i'm saying. He had to have lost for it to become. Yeah so while. He's looking for that. After being canceled in two thousand twenty due to coronavirus that it philly naked bike ride is scheduled for this year on august. Twenty eighth people in philadelphia hop on their bikes philly weather. Your fucking dad would have been all right around. Naked promote body positivity cycling safety and promote the use of bikes instead of cars Are expected to be naked. But they do have to wear masks. We'll say this. If you are in fact naked on a mountain bike you will practice safety. That's right if you're padded up helmet. Jockstrap uses a lot of we lease at that nuts getting tangled lots of hand signals. But yeah kind of keeps. It keeps you on it. I think you're absolutely right. Let's bring it home. Gina grad. I'm gina grad and. That's the news. I can't take this anymore. That was the news with gene grad. Hi what did we find out about. Lee marvin yeah so. He was ordered to pay his girlfriend. Michelle who actually changed her lasting marvin so it was actually marvin vs one hundred four thousand dollars for rehabilitation purposes but the court denied our community property claim for one half of the three point six million which marvin had earned during their six years of cohabitation and the result was the landmark palimony case. So yeah this is what they do. There was something there. All right. let me tell you about scott's cheap. Flights dot com scott's cheap flights travel the world and never pay full price again. People pay way too much for flights prices. Go up. 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Frank Marshall - 'The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend a Broken Heart'

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Frank Marshall - 'The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend a Broken Heart'

"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the three hundred ninety nine. Th episode of awards chatter the hollywood. Reporter's awards podcast. I'm the host gothenburg and my guest. Today is one of the most artistically and commercially successful producers in hollywood history. A man who for fifty three years has helped to realize the visions of filmmakers including peter bogdanovich walter hill. Martin scorsese george lucas. Roberts mbekis m night shamlan. David fincher paul greengrass and most famously steven spielberg with whom. He has collaborated on and off for forty years often in tandem with his wife of nearly thirty five years kathleen kennedy with credits including the last picture show paper moon e t the extraterrestrial gremlins. The goonies the color purple empire of the sun who framed roger rabbit the sixth sense seabiscuit. The curious case of benjamin button all five installments of the indiana jones franchise all three installments of the back. To the future franchise three installments of the drastic park franchise and all five installments of the born franchise collectively resulting in five best picture oscar. Nominations and more than six point. One billion dollars worth of ticket sales at box offices in north america alone a two thousand eighteen recipient alongside his wife of the academy of motion picture arts and sciences highest honor for a producer. The irving g thalberg memorial award. Frank marshall over the course of our conversation seventy four year old and i discussed how he got into producing by volunteering to assist bogdanovich with his feature direct debut. The chance encounter a few years. After that which led to his long collaboration with spielberg and then through spielberg to his future wife establishing a trio which would co found and for a decade co-run amblin entertainment before kennedy and marshall went off on their own to form the kennedy marshall company. Why he has occasionally ventured into directing on projects like nineteen ninety s. Arachnophobia nineteen ninety. Three's alive nineteen ninety-five congo. Two thousand six is eight below and most recently the acclaimed two thousand twenty. Hbo documentary the bg's. How can you mend a broken heart which is nominated for five emmys including best documentary or nonfiction special and best directing for a documentary or nonfiction program plus much more and so without further ado. Let's go to that conversation. Thank you so much for doing the pike as great to have you and congrats on the nomination at thank you. My first verse. Wow okay. I can't believe that. Well so i. I as a director. Okay no well that's fantastic and of course Come to plenty of. Bg's related stuff but on this podcast. We go right from the very beginning. So if you wouldn't mind just telling listeners where were you born and raised in. What is your folks do for a living. I was actually born in glendale california I was raised out in the san fernando valley until we moved to newport beach for high school so i went to high school in newport and then i went to ucla. So i've never left the west side. And i i guess you were. Athletics have always been a big part of your life. Yes athletics and music. My dad was was a composer. Arranger played jazz guitars grew up in a musical family He was under contract to capitol records on and my mom played piano so There was a lot of music in our house as i was growing up. All right so eventually you go off to to ucla. And i don't believe it was with a specific focus on thelma. I so what was it. And how did we end up with you in on a phone bath. No i was kind of a normal teenager and had no idea what i wanted to do when i went to to. Ucla i started i. I did like a semester and engineering. And then i went into theater arts for a couple of semesters and then i ended up in pali cy but along the way i took a couple of classes in in theater arts and and one of them was Movies and a wonderful professor whose name gray herald gray. Yeah forget his name but he had written this book on the history of movies so we had this little paperback book. And so you know. I thought great so i learned by just watching great old movies and i loved movies but i had no idea how they got made but i i knew i was drawn to entertainment. I liked you. Know the drama classes in high school. And i was in the little theatre group down in orange county and so i knew i'd either go into music or something that was related to entertainment and then i met peter bogdanovich at a party and the rest is history. While i'm going to stop you there. Because of course i wanna ask you about that but i i also have seen a few of the Interviews you've done before that. I read prepping for this. You've talked about the sand pebbles being a major movie for you. And i don't know if it was. It seems like that would have been right while you were at ucla. And if it was just a movie you loved or so as a movie that made you wanna make movies but anything you want to say about that. Well i remember it sort of fondly. a it's it's bittersweet memory for me. Because i was recovering from the first of many knee surgeries. I had torn cartilage playing soccer at ucla. Nineteen sixty seven and and as a sort of gone on crutches and one of my best friends in high school. Took me to see sam pebbles and of course seeing the samples and realizing that you could be transported to different places. And what a movie could do. I really started thinking this. This could be something. I'd be interesting in doing. I had no idea how to get into the movie business. At that time it was before. I admit peter and but i just loved that movie and and we use to quote lines from the movie. And it's you know. I was just a fell in love with movies and then you know As has things would happen Was in the right place at the right time and You know Just said when peterson. I'm gonna make my first movie. I said hey. I'd love to work on it. Let's your set the scene though. Because i mean of all things this is at a what a birthday party for john. Ford's daughter i've read like so. How do you even end up there. And why was he there. Okay well it was. It was a connection with my dad. My dad was in the army with an actor named ken. Curtis yeah who was a part of the sons of the pioneers. Which was mr. Ford's you know. Sort of goto musical group there in almost every one of his movies. Yeah and and. Ken was married to barbara for john. Ford's daughter who was an editor and they lived out until luca lake when i was growing up and they had a pool so we go over their house to swim in the summer when it was really hot because nobody had air conditioning so i stayed friends with them You know my whole life. And when i went to ucla. Mr ford lived on copay or just off sunset there so i left my little motorscooter in his garage every summer and i had met him a couple of times but then one christmas. I think it was nine hundred sixty six. My dad said. Hey there's a birthday party for barbara year right there. We'll come up but we'll see each other and there'll be a lot of really famous actors and actresses. They're i said cool. I'll go to this party and sure enough. There was war bond. John wayne and joanne dru and hurry carried junior and of course. Ken and barbie. Barbara's birthday and there was there was her chime ford and had just taken that movie class so i had seen a lot of his movies and so it was like incredibly intimidating to be there but also great. Yeah and then down the stairs. Came this cute little girl with a pixie haircut and bubbly and said isn't it great. How many wonderful actors or here. And everything and i said yeah and so. I was sort of proud of the fact that i knew mr forbes movies and i really actually talk about him because i just taken this class and she said to me you love movies all i love movies is she said well come on in. You need to meet my husband. And i kind of said oh really oh i don't want to meet your eyes so i admitted now and it was polly platt. Yeah who turned out then to be my mentor and great friend and just fabulous fabulous woman but she took me in and i met peter and they were. They're doing a documentary and ford and but he just met. Roger cormon and roger corman asked him to shoot some second unit on wild angels for all of the things that i didn't know i wanted to be an all of the confusion. I was in about my career. Peter knew that he wanted to be a director he was now he was seven years older than me. So maybe it was. You know that time it took to but he knew definitely what he wanted to do in life. So i said look. I flunked productions and things. I've done a little theatre group and you know If if you make moving you come back and give me a call. And of course i forgot about it because people always say oh. Yeah i will and you never hear from three months later. My dad called me and said you meet somebody named bugs or something ford party. Yeah and he said well you gotta call them. Is there so. I called peter. And he and polly had moved from new york to saticoy avenue out in the valley. And he said we're gonna make this movie. Roger cormon gave us the money to make this movie wrote the script and you wanna work on nice ensure what do you want me to do. I don't know i've never met him. Just come over. So that was the start and the beauty of it was so low budget that i got to do everything and this was targets. This was targets I learned everything there was. And that's when i really trust love with making movies. I said if you do this and make a living. I'm in i'm doing. This almost flunked out of school. Well i know that was just one of seven that you eventually did with peter and that's not even counting the other side of the wind and the more recent cool stuff you guys have done but i kissed. Can you just talk about how that evolved to the extent. Where so targets is sixty eight Last picture show is seventy one paper moon. Seventy-three daisy miller seventy four. It looks like you had different producing responsibilities on each of these and or different. Let's say different responsibilities or maybe you can characterize how they evolved to the point. Where on i believe. Daisy miller is where you impress somebody else yes while it was It was interesting scott. Because i didn't know it when i was you know targets and even on last picture show but i was sorta producing without knowing it because my my view of what the producer does he helps the director get division up on the screen whatever that means and so when i worked on on targets whatever needed to be done i did you know whether it was shooting some of it. I acted in it. I built some of the set dressing built some of the sets. I found things. I made sandwiches. I watered the lawn. i rented cars. You know anything to get. Keep the movie going and it was the same on the last picture show. I was the location manager. But i work with polly and finding the locations getting locations and i had another really fine mentor. Don guest. who is our production manager and he really taught me about the producing or the production side of things. So i was really working with and for the director rather than being kind of from the studio saying saying no. You can't do that. You can't falling finding options and alternatives to things to achieve what The director wanted or. What their vision was for the story so we made a last picture. Show is location managed. What's up doc. Next year i was also. I was peter's assistant and and also location manager. But i was learning how this worked and who you know what a producer did in those days. The producer really was raising. The money and getting the money wasn't actually making the movie. I just love being on the set. That's where the action was. That's where things happen. That's worth fun and so on paper moon which was our next movie. Peterman me associate producer. And on on that i really started learning about production and budget and scheduling and data days. And all that stuff and i was liaising with the studio at paramount. Then i wasn't involved in script yet. But i was heavily involved in post production and i learned that from another of my mentors. I've had wonderful wonderful mentors along the way vernon field in her own. So i now had this kind of fully rounded except for developing script. Which i peter and polly did and didn't really worry about it. Then we went off to make daisy miller and rome. And that's when i met a young filmmaker at lunch who was visiting our set. He was touring europe because his tv movie which was called dual Was being released as a feature in europe and that was steven spielberg now. Was there something about somebody was homesick. Or something what was what was that about. Yeah he he wanted to. He wanted to have lunch with the some people from home and we knew we were making the movie and the publicity guy knew me called me and today's i. I've got the young filmmaker and you know he's he's kinda getting a little homesick and he'd like to see some some people and have lunch. Show some filmmakers so we did. We had them to lunch at this little It was a studio in downtown rhone called safa paladino just amazing place to major movie and every lunch we at a long table where the cast in a bunch of the crew would would gather and so there was Fred sill who is publicity guy. There was stephen and sitting. Next steven was verna fields and then there were are actors. Berry brown's simple shepherd. There was peter. And i always had at the end of the table ahead of a bowl of pasta. They knew it every day had win. Win rome her. So so i wasn't there at the start of this lunch and i came in. There were all seated. And i was introduced around and i met stephen. I went over. And i had to of boston. Standing up. And i went back to peter and i asked him a question and i said sorry i gotta go back to the set and i left and went back to the stage and verner later told me that stevens said to her. That's the kind of guy. I need more interested in the next shot than lunch. That scrape isn't it amazing though when you think about i mean i'm sure you would have had a wonderful career. And he would have had a wonderful career. If you'd never had that brief encounter but yet you just think how different things might have been right exactly and and you know the there's another lesson in that it's always do your best because you never know who's looking you know always pay it all always make the best coffee co late. The pages always do your best because in. That moment took five years in five years later. When stephen was sitting on the beach with george lucas in hawaii they were talking about raiders lost ark and george said well who do you want to produce it and stevens said. Let's see if we can find that guy. Frank marshall and there had been no contact in the intervening years. No none and i got. Call my little hovel in your westwood. And they said this is george. Lucas is office would you have time to come in for a meeting. I said i can come right. Oh that's unbelievable. Yeah i guess. In the in the interim he had done a little called the first star wars right so of he american graffiti american griffin. Yeah well and you. You'd still been busy though. Because i'm looking at a few more with with peter with at long last love. Nickelodeon looks like you started with walter hill on a few things. And even with scorsese on the last waltz which is a big deal. What was it when you went in for this meeting. I guess with lucas and maybe stephen was also there. Did you get a clear what they were looking for in a producer. Yeah you know it. It was an interesting time because george was forming lucasfilm and he wanted to have three movies in different phases of production one in pre production development. One shooting in one in post and he had to going at that time he had empire strikes back any had more american graffiti and this was going to be his third movie that he would Haven't production and george again supports his directors. And stephen had just come off. Nineteen forty one and i think that he had been so beaten up by the studio that he wanted someone to protect him and and be on his side from the production side and that was my reputation and he remembered that. Back and Yes i i was doing fine. I i had a great career going. I loved working with walter. We may to movers together. We're still great friends. And and working with marty on last walter unbelievable but then this opportunity came that you know only happens once in your lifetime will so that first movie still lucas and your first soul producing credit is is raiders which also ultimately is the first oscar nomination for you but I guess i wonder did you. You know there's the idea all we gotta get a guy like frank marshall. Oh this is an on your part. Oh this is a cool thing. Lucas spielberg but when you actually got down to business on this did you find that your styles that you acclimated wealth each other. Yeah we got along great. Because i was all about solving problems and how to shoot the movie and how to to make the movie for a price and you know it was interesting when i talk about it now. I still didn't really understand or was interested in how the movie got developed. Just give me the script. And i'll tell you how to make it and and how to budget and how to you know solve those problems so that's changed now over the years where i'm involved in all traces but Back then it was really about. I'm i'm the guy who's gonna help you get. The movie made the way you want it to be made. And i'll take care of the studio and you know we'll figure things out and then we all moved to london and we had a great crew there and a great place to shoot at l. studios and a lotta people that work with george before on star wars and it was just a great team and everybody was in support of the vision of that movie and So you know and again looking back. You know we really. We really hit it off and cathy was there working with stephen. And that's where we met and we just had fun working together and when we came back. Stephen offered kathy. At and me poltergeist. Well i i want to solve your only because if anyone here is you know living under a rock or something. And they don't know who talking about so. Cathy is catholic. Your wife since eighty seven. But you guys met on this project where she's his assistant your a producer for the first time and i was lucky enough to be there the night a couple of years ago three years ago i think when you guys got your tallberg awards the highest honor that producer can get and you sort of shared she she and you this. It was really a meet cute situation. And i wonder if you wouldn't mind just sharing again your perspective of how it came about well Yeah was you know again. These things just happen. That's the best way to describe it. you know When i met cathy she was great. Who's working for stephen. She was all about taking care of stephen and getting stephen wanted and that was great and we became best friends and she loved movies and i never assumed i would meet someone who love making movies as much as i did so. I was kinda married to the movies. And then there's this person that was kinda going along here and we had a lot of the same interests but we were really friends. And and then. Stephen asked us to work. On other's movies with poltergeist. At and then you know we've kinda after et. I think we started going out kind of kept it a secret because you know. I really wanted people to to know that she had produced the movie that i wasn't you know because people just assume things so we really kept an under the radar and then when the two movies came out and they did so well and it had gone so well stephen said to us one. We form a company and we said well. We don't know what that means for. Sure. let's get more movies together and that our ambulance started and of course then we we were just together making these movies and say well you know. Yeah yeah well it'd be could think let's get married to actually correct me if i'm wrong. But i guess the first sparks. I guess not to put words your but it sounds like you guys. The assignment from stephen was to like kind of make a model or something. During the making of raiders. That's exactly right. Steven asked kathy one day to stephen. Leicht design action sequences with with actual models. Now do it with a previous and stuff but back in those days he loved to. There's a lot of shots of them. We had this big model made of the desert. Where's lying. He's looking through a camera so he likes to design his sequences action sequences with models. So he said you know. Gino anybody that can me some models while i had grown up making reveal models out in the valley with my dad. My walk the end. I turned cathy. I said you know. Can you get some rebel trucks. Termine trucks and tanks and motorcycles and she said yes she said you know. I love making models to and i said you do. Yeah so we spent the weekend together matt putting together these models and you know that was kind of start and then we fell in love. That's great amazing. Story lovely slurry. And and as you say i guess you each had your marching orders after that where you're doing she's doing et but there was there even pre you guys would kind of weigh in on each like were you. Did you have involvement with the for instance. Yes yes i was. I was around. You know we were there for the planning of both movies. I mean kathy. And i went up to stevens house. We needed a rewrite on the script than we rewrote the script. In a couple of nights altogether on poltergeist and turned it in and so she was around for that and then. At came second. And i helped with the post production. Because that was really my forte. Because of verna so i helped her with the or out to the movie post production and of course. We knew john williamson. Here's another crazy thing. John williams was in the army with my dad. Oh my god. My dad has a lot to do. But johnny was in the army band play piano. My dad plagued car and and and he was out in the valley. So i sort of grew up with johnny and so you know and then he was stevens composer. And so it's. It's all been pretty magical. Let us small world. So now i guess in in most scenarios to you frank who does the producer work for like director can fire director doesn't like the screenwriter whatever or doesn't like the production designer they can replace. Who would you say. The producer answers to always always answer to the director. Don't tell studio that. I'm directors producer. Okay that's why and that's why they like you. Yeah i figure that's really always seen that as my job is to help get that vision up on the screen and figure out all the logistics in this stuff because the The producer asks a thousand questions today and the director answers thousand questions today. That's the difference in the roles and so it's my job to find out what's in their head and then how to execute it now. Why you know for a lot of people. I think they dream of being the director because then they're holding. The you know the the rains. I guess in a sense why for you is it. I don't wanna say more appealing because you also obviously have directed but why was that something that held appeal to you to be enabling somebody else's vision. Well i'm i guess. I'm a problem solver i. I love solving problems. I love getting things done. And that's more of the producers job. And i you know it's and i have directed as you say and that's really tough at least for me. I mean you know everything's on your shoulders and you get the credit went to works and you get the blame when it doesn't snow. Just feel that my my skill set a in. Most cases fits being producer better than a director but then there are some stories. I want to tell myself and I was lucky enough to learn from Stephen bob's meccas. Because they gave me the second unit director jobs and the job of the second unit director is to imitate the first unit. So i learned from the best so i took those those experiences and then applied them to You know four or five movies that i've directed blowing so that was all the you were working with those guys. Most during these amblin. I guess the amblin decade Obviously with the mecca. It's it's back to the future. And then also who framed. Roger rather where i think you know what people should remember that was really the first blending of live action and animation ray which was just whole revolutionary concept and back to the future. I guess was unlike Well did you know with raiders that you were getting involved with a multi film endeavor from the beginning. Yes on raiders. We knew there were gonna make three of them okay. We all agreed that we would make three and with back to the future was also always understood. This is going to be a series now back. Their future was a single movie. And then when it did so well Bob and bob gale thought. Well there might be another place to go with delorean right and so i mean i'm looking back at the at that era. And it's kind of incredible that you were pumping out five or six movies a year in the in the mid eighties and not like phoning it in these are. These are major major movies. We're not even talking as much in depth about the goonies and all these other things that you had a hand in. And i guess i just wonder how for for as long as you did. Are you sustaining that. We're used to staining that level of output. Well i part of it is the kathy. And i were married so we were together all go off and and each go and direction but we worked with incredibly talented and fun people. I mean when you look at the directors we worked with and the projects we worked when he was a golden age is going to happen again and we were. We were able to just to do what we wanted. And we had great projects and they kept coming up and somebody. Br joe dante say i wanna make gremlins and we go okay and and people trusted. It's a studio trusted us to bring in on budget. Nothing ever got out of control and you know it was just a really really interesting and fun time and i think because the three of us were together all the time that made it work. So i you know as you say. It is the job of a producer to solve problems that may not be anticipated that arise and i just want to bring up a couple of things that you were presented with as a producer. And ask you just in the moment. What are you thinking. How do you how do you. How do you even see the the next day over the horizon. You know how you gotta get there. So i mean the most famous one i guess was with with Second i think it was a second indiana jones. Indiana jones in the couple of doom and eighty four harrison ford gets injured and this is a hugely expensive sequel and it would have been a disaster if you had to shut down right Yeah exactly and you know again. It's just you take one step at a time. And i'm not sure we could have done this without a director like steven but you know. We had several meetings. First of all we had to figure out how to take care of harrison what that would take. And then what the recuperation time would be and once we understood that then we just had to reschedule of the movie and amazingly enough we had a. We had a wonderful stunt double for harrison dick armstrong and so he had done the first movie and he had done half of this movie temple of doom. So stephen was able to figure out how to shoot the scenes mostly in the mine in the caves and stuff And because there's a lot of action without actually cutting to indies face so we shot all of the shots that we would've shot and most of them were with with vic but at some of them would have been harrison. Hetty had been there. But we shot all these these sequences and then when harrison was well again and healed. He came back and we turned around and shot the medium and up shots of harrison. And i'm not sure there's another director except for stephen. That could have done that because those are the days we're on film and there were no avid and there was you know we were cutting on film so you didn't have the you know the luxury of having an ipad going. Oh yeah that's shot. I want it was all in stevens head back with stephen. You had great success in particular with in the mid to late eighties with color purple and empire of the sun and i. It brings up a thing that you know. It's it's no longer quite quite applicable. Things that happened in the schindler's list. Onwards but i just want to read you a funny quote of yours from around that time where he say quote working with steven. Spielberg is a lot of fun. You don't win many oscars but you do have a lot of fun close close and i think what people forget. Is that pre schindler's list. He was for whatever reason kind of often left out. I mean that color. Purple eleven oscar nominations including best picture but no directing nomination for stephen just like jaws beers before then and over eleven ties the turning point at the oscars then empire the sun ofer sex. These great movies. That for whatever reason i guess just wonder what do you think that was about was their jealousy of stephen. At that point. I do think jealousy and that that he could actually do these sort of popcorn movies and then do something serious you know when you look at color purple and you look at empire. The sun there in amazingly shot and acted and deserved all the nominations. But i just don't think that people were able to accept the fact that stephen could do everything right. And so you know. We got nominated by We didn't win any right right. Well okay so this you know. There's all kinds of stuff the rest of that decade land before time always with audrey hepburn's last role cape fear hook and then you direct for the first time. Which is the thread. That's to connect of course to be jesus and here. It's with arachnophobia. Nineteen ninety with killer spiders. Then the next one is alive with a cannibal situation and a plane crash in ninety-three. You're not making life easy on yourself right. I mean these are tough sells well. I actually thought. Arachnophobia was the right kind of movie to start with. Because it's kind of a b. movie kind of i. I understood horror and comedy and it seemed like The right choice for me to start. I'd done a lot of second unit by then had worked with actors very much mostly stunt people but when i met jeff daniels. He made me so comfortable. That i said yeah. I really wanna do this. And and we got started. And then i was really interested in the story as i said. There's you know the difference between directing and producing are for me are really the stories that i feel. I wanna tell. And that continued on all the way below. Whereas i wanted to tell that story about the dogs. Yeah yeah and that one. I think opened number one right. That was the most successful well. So what was it. That happened I mean here's here's quote from from kathy quote. Leaving stephen was the hardest thing franken i ever did but it was done only because we have personal things that we wanted to do together close quote. This was when i believe in nineteen ninety two you and she start the county marshall company which ever since then has been within the auspices of or partnering with one student or another. But why at that time. When you're having so much success with stephen. Did you guys decide. We're gonna we're gonna go it alone. Well i think. I'd say it was really for a couple of reasons. One that you know we got married and we had talked about having making our own movies. And i was starting directing and also know amblin had gotten so big by then that we were spending more time in the office then when we were in the movies and i think we just wanted to go back to making our own. Movies and steven was was incredibly. Tough decision is. Cathy said but stephen embraced it and he was very gracious about it. And as you know we're still making movies together exactly and and just to that point as a final pre. Bg's section here. I wonder if i can just mention a few of these that you guys were you particularly have done since that chapter again where you know. I know let's say a little tidbit that i would prompt you just about each of these and then you say whatever you but i mean. The sixth sense is nine hundred. Ninety nine this is a spec script from a basically unknown filmmaker right and not only. Do you recognize the potential in it but you then find a way to get with a with a quite limited budget. The guy who he rooted. Dreaming of bruce willis in it. So just anything you you know. I think it's these are kind of ways to illustrate what a producer does when he's doing it right like you do so anything you could say about that sure. Well the the you know still to this day the best spec script i've ever read and we immediately jumped into the to the competition to to get the script it was. We had our deal at disney then. And that's part of the job of a producer. We called david. Vogel was our executive and said stop eating lunch gorgeous script and he he immediately you know saw how great it was and so we got the script but then the students said first time filmmaker. You know we're gonna give you ten million dollars to make the movie all in actors everything we said. Okay so i went tonight. And i said so. Did you write this with anybody. Mind he said. Yeah bruce willis said well that's not gonna fit in our budget. But i knew bruce and he was shooting armageddon on the lot and i knew that he was interested in these kind of paranormal. Kind of Stories and because we had talked about doing together. So i call this age. And i wanted to bruce script and his as insurance and so you know after about two weeks and i didn't hear anything i call them back and sure enough. He said to bruce. Because it was a first time director and blah blah blah. So i just walked over the set. And i say bruce i got a script. I want you to read a handed it to him. Nice nice. that's what a producer does and you got. And so he got on board. and that was. I mean just rally one of the from budget to prophets one of the most successful of don right. Yeah and you know to to bruce's credit. He knew a good project when you read it and it was completely different for him to do and you know so it was. He did say to me. I need you on the set every day. And i said happy to be there. Yeah yeah. I mean nights wonderful director and made a great movie for years later seabiscuit. I think came with the director. Attach which isn't always the but this one was best picture nomination. Yeah i again. A wonderful script gary ross wrote you know we really just get attracted to stories and to the scripts i. It's just that we seem to like stuff that a lot of people. But it's really about the story and in that case you you you couldn't make that story up. It was based on a true story and a wonderful book written by laura hill degrom and And gary wonderful director so again. A great project we we dove into the world of horse racing and spent time in kentucky. And you know just had our wonderful time making that movie so one that i know was a piece for you guys to technically deal with and put together and just a huge scale thing was benjamin button which is two thousand eight ends up another very acclaimed and recognize movie. But it wasn't easy getting there with that one right now. We had that one for quite a while and actually It was a case of technology catching up with with the movie. And it had had several iterations and several scripts and and to be honest. I think several directors until david fincher read eric. Ross script and again it was the script that got that movie made and then david was faced with a challenge. A he said. I want to be one actor and because up to that time we had because of the the the huge age range in the character we were passing two or three different actors to be the different ages of benjamin and david wanted to be one actor. And that's what he sold. Brad pitt on is this is always going to be you no matter what age it is and then of course his challenge in which he loves was how do we do the visual effects and he you know coming from. Lyle am kind of amazing. People don't know he started iom that he he put this sort of off the shelf package of how to do the aging and the de aging So again just an incredible story that you know Dan was complicated by. We're shooting in new orleans when katrina hit. And so you know of course studio want to go somewhere else but we had committed and we felt that it was important to for the comeback of the city to go back shoot there. Although there was no infrastructure but we got the movie made and i think it really being there adds to the the movie becomes a character in the movie that that town i think maybe the the franchise that you have actually done the most installments of and add cute. Success with is the borne franchise which you've been with from the start and matt damon has said quote. Had it not been for. Frank we never would have had a franchise close quote and i know that really started with truly with the first where you came on fairly late. You got a in that case progress. Doug linemen who's an indie guy thrown into the studio world for the first time on a huge budget like this and you had you had a lot to kind of. I mean that was just a random colleague. How far into the i into the first movie. Well i've been called earlier on it like six months before because the rightfully so the studio thought it was a big movie for doug and allie brecher called me and Said you know we think we need to create a producer and a production producer and they had the production producer which is was pat crowley but they wanted a creative producer. And you know it was at the time that they called me. We had two young kids. It meant going europe for six months. I didn't wanna do it. It was a hard movie but five months later. They got into trouble because the creative producer. His wife had some complications from her pregnancy and they left and went back to new york and so they needed a somebody step in right away and that time it was much more appealing to me. Because i didn't have to go away for six months every you know there was a place in paris. There's a house in paris for me and bring my family over over christmas and it you know it looked a lot better so then and you know and then the movie had a lot of ups and downs and i think the fact that i had already directed a couple of things by then helped me realize that there was a great movie there we just had to find it and so i i worked with everybody to find that movie and we went through nine eleven and there was a lot of challenges there too but we came out the other end with the bourne identity and then we went from there so i just wanna note that matt and people have your your being extra humble here but i mean that ending was not the original ending and it was later than almost ever that it was changed because you were able to make the case right and then we had green grass on this podcast saying similar things about the subsequent installments that with with something of that size and scale you could be a great producer but not necessarily be able to handle something of that scale yet. That's become. I guess through your through your earlier work something. That doesn't thrill you know. I had all this experience in europe. I had all this experience with action. Nothing phased me so you know the fact that we went to moscow. We actually shot a chase scene in moscow. That's a challenge that i want and and so it's really putting together the right pieces and going you know. We shot in shanghai in one thousand nine hundred eighty five on empire the sun. No one from the west had ever shot there and they may not have since we figured out how to do it. So i love those kind of challenges and in in born and working with mad. And tony. Orion and paul. You know the genre really struck me and the changing the genre and this character who doesn't want to be a sniper and a killer. It had an emotion to it wasn't just an action picture. It really had substance and again. The story really attracted me. And that's why. I love working on those movies. So one final question if i may you have i guess in in two thousand twelve almost a decade Since kathy took the job with lucasfilm. And i guess therefore was on hiatus from from kennedy marshall. And you have been in that time since responsible for hugely successful but primarily sequels right. I mean we're looking at the bourne. Legacy and jason born looking at jurassic world biggest global opening of any movie ever up to that time Dresses world fallen kingdom than jurassic. world's cretaceous. Then you've just come through the pandemic with another. And so i guess i just wonder. Is that reflective of the nature of the business today that it's just harder to make none sequels remakes or adaptations of existing ip or. Is that now the kind of movie that you just personally gravitate towards. Well it's a little bit of both scott you know. Cathy was doing the drastic parks. And then when she took over lucasfilm. She couldn't do that anymore so she lateraled it to me and so it was an easy step in was stephen in the studio and So that's kind of how that happened. And then you know. I do like to to do only one big movie at a time. Although we're we're developing other different movies but not a giant tentpole movie like these movies. Take all your time and attention. Because they're so big and so that's kind of where these sequels have come from. And certainly i want to continue with the born movies as well. We're still looking at some some new stories that have been told before but I also talked to kathy dinner so you know we still talk about our movies. And so that's how all gets done. Okay so this is now the The main course. I've got to just ask you your love of music where it is that i know you you. Of course your father was an influence. You said you were interested in music growing up. But i mean. I've been to like covered. The oscar nominees luncheon and your dj so people may not realize the extent of your passion for music and knowledge about it including with something like the bg so pre this project. Just what was your relationship with music. Well i've played the guitar since i was like nine or eight. I don't remember. I played the trumpet. I but as i say i grew up in there's music and there were guitars around my house. All the time and i was you know in groups in high school and college and i just love music. I loved listening to it. I love making it. I love playing it. And and so. And i made a lot of friends in the music business and i do think that if i hadn't gone into movies i would have gone into music so being able to bland. My two loves movies and music has been just really special in this with us. Renaissance now of of documentaries and particularly music documentaries been a really great and I've been able to take advantage of that and it was really just sort of a a walk down memory lane. That inadvertently led to a bj's doc all and by the way we should just want to reiterate forty plus years after he. You know it's not like this. Is your first rodeo. With a music doc because again the last waltz is like the gold standard and here. We are now forty-three years after that. Yeah i mean. I listened to give the credit du production line producer on the last walt. Got things done anything to do with creating mardi and ravi in that group but yeah i love being a part of it. I love being up all night. Listening to the band and amy lou harris and you know in the staples and all the rest of them. So you know it's kinda not like work. It's so when i've been doing docs now for little over ten years kind of started back with. Espn thirty for thirty and then They've you know they've really come in. I you know they've they've really come into the forefront now because i think that people use to that documentaries were either going to be boring or educational or this and now they're seeing that. These docs are so exciting. And and can be so special in moving and and you know taking the places that never been and so my first music doc was Was with alex. Gibney who directed Sinatra right and again. That's because of people that i have known in the business who then came to me and said you know the sinatra's this hundredth anniversary and they wanna do a dock and and i had done the armstrong lie with alex and i i knew alex loved music to. He's a huge music lover. Even though he doesn't do many music docks so you know you just get the right people around. The docks are really about a collaboration a lot. It's a real team. Effort as opposed to feature. And you know what i love about them is. You don't know what you're going to do as as opposed to you know a feature movie when you know exactly what you're gonna do every day you've got a script you you've got a schedule know every hour what you're shooting with the doc. It's it's freedom. It's constant discovery. It's trying this is trying that and a lot of it is really made in the cutting room. Which i love. The post process so being a director is really more of being a director with an editor or editors. And that's and then you have the support team that gives you the archival and he'd say well what about this and so it's a real team effort and i loved making the bg's because it started at capitol records up on the top of of the building has just been refurbished. And the new ceo. Steve barnett was there and he was. We were talking about the days. And i told them how. How would drive with my dad on the hollywood freeway. He'd say there's the building. I'm going to work in and guess what it looks like. I said i don't know said it's a stack of forty five records and sure enough if you look at it. That's what it is absolutely you know we were talking about doing doctors now five years ago. So because the record companies and in this case You mg universal music group. They were looking for ways to reinvigorate catalogs. And they and steve said i just bought the bg's and i love the bg's meetig how about them that he said well. I've got a kind of a five year plan and in the plan is a documentary so berries coming out in a couple of weeks because they're doing a grammy tribute and so why don't i bring him over here and you'll meet and you guys can talk about it and so i came back two weeks later that wonderful office on the top of the capitol record building where i of grew up on the floor of studio a and i met berry and we really hit it off and you know. I shared the story about coming from a musical family. I'm the oldest. Like he is two brothers. Grew up with the guitars and music in the house. And you know that started this wonderful journey that i went on for four years. And this is your first time in fourteen years directing. Was it something you just sort of slipped right back into or is it a an adjustment. Well no i kind of you know storytelling and now with all the tools that we have and it wasn't about worrying about the schedule. It's as i said it's kind of free form way of making a movie. Where then i thought well. Who do i want to produce the movie for me to do those. Yeah i need done. And i had just seen the beatles eight days a week and i figured well. If there's somebody that can find beatles footage has never been seen. 'i want that guy. And it was nigel sinclair. And he has a wonderful company called white horse pictures and he brought with him. Genie elephant festa or co-producer and a wonderful writer and a mark monroe and the whole team there and they were my support and and That's why we have this. You know amazing movie so going into it. Was there one thing that you most hoped to learn. And was there then making it. One thing that you were most surprised to learn. Well i think what you've gotta do is is look for the heart of the story and for me. The heart of the story was family and songwriting. And yes the the music the start him and all that in the you know the amazing celebrity that had and all that but i was really interested in what how that happened. You know. Because i i had a family that was very musical when i was young too and their dream that they had in australia. That kind of tricky because their english and then they moved australian. They would back so we had to tell that really quickly. But i was interested in in how. What the genesis. And how they work together and how they sang together and how they wrote their songs and that really became the heart of the story. And i believe it's they stayed together and kept coming back together and overcoming. These obstacles is because they were a family and they had a great support parents. And you know that was really the key so that was the heart of the story for me so we wove the things around that. And and then i started discovering things like you know how sorry not ever came together and how they created the drum loop and you know. Those are the golden nuggets. That are so wonderful. When you're making a doc that the things you don't know that you discover and then you make a right turn and then you have to decide that the job of the director okay. Wh- what do i want to recreate how to shoot the interview directing going on there but as i say the big part of it is is in the cutting and that was really fun last question. If you needed to convince a young person to check out the bg's music they're great you know it's not just it's not just the movie siren i favor which song having now been immersed in this for years. Which song would you encourage them to listen to i. I'd say how deep is your love because it is a real love song and it was written as a love song and their songs touch your emotions they tell a story and from the heart and their harmonies their musicality anna and then the words are a really special so i would check out. How deep is your love. I can't thank you. Thank you so much. Frank really appreciate it and enjoy the right. Thank god well wednesday. Thanks very much for tuning into awards. Chatter we really appreciate you taking the time to do that and would really appreciate taking a minute. More to subscribe to our podcast on. I tunes or your podcasts out. And to leave us a rating as well. If you have any questions comments or concerns you can reach me via twitter at twitter dot com slash. Stop fiber and you can follow all my coverage between episodes at t. h. r. dot com slash the race until next time. Thanks for joining us.

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The Career Musician Ep. 72: Same Name Different Game with Steve Sinatra

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The Career Musician Ep. 72: Same Name Different Game with Steve Sinatra

"You've heard the music now. Here's the story from director frank marshall. Hbo's new documentary the bg's how can you mend a broken heart. Chronicles the highs and lows of brothers berry maurice and robin gibb and the evolution of the prolific career as the bg's through interviews and never before seen footage discover how they navigated the ever changing music industry and complex dynamics of family and fame. Watch it now on hbo and hbo. Max you're listening to the career musician. Podcast with creator and host nomad with two plus years of experience in the music industry. Nomad has done just about everything to earn a living as a career musician from being music director to celebrity artists playing iconic arenas and stadiums composing for film and tv and even playing your average local club gigs. He's done at all. Nomads mission is to empower musicians across the globe with strategies for sustainable career while blasting stereotypes and bring you tried and true wisdom from his colleagues in this crazy business. We call music on this episode of the career musician. Podcast we have steve sinatra. That's right same name different game with a list of drumming credits for artists such as hunter hayes little big town. Carrie underwood keith. Urban stevie wonder joe nichols pat green and the list goes on. Have you ever wanted why you're here. What does this all mean. How does this matrix. We live in really applied to the work that we do in the lives. We live well. guess what. Steve wondered these exact things and he went on a deep dive to find some answers. He has developed a very unique system called source science and sound. I'll let steve tell you more about it right here on this episode of the podcast by it in here we are ladies and gentlemen you have heard of the one and only blue eyes himself frank sinatra you have heard of nancy his offspring and now you can hear from steve sinatra. Ironically has nothing to do with. That's right no. Relation welcomes the st sinatra to know place. Thanks man thanks for having me absolutely man. Thank you so stephen. I just met through a mutual friend. Joel stephen and we sit down here at the studio. We start talking and every time we hit on a subject tell you wait. Let's save it for the recording. Some nat how we can talk about all this stuff that we both are obviously itching to talk about. But let's go back. Let's start at the beginning. First of all. Where are you from from south florida originally and ironically find out that you are not only from south florida but hop skip and a jump away from me could have been coming over to my house. The it'd be in high school buddies. You live so close to me nan. Well you would have been in middle school and high school. That's true so maybe we could have jammed towards the end of so much more important back then right. Isn't it a trip. Yeah that is really cool so originally from new york. But then i grew up half of my childhood and florida. That's great we would neighbors. Let's talk about a history so we were just talking about the concept that at an early age i knew very early fourteen fifteen. I knew i wanted to be a studio musician. Most people at that age have no idea. What a studio musician even means. And you said you were the same way so talk about that. So what was the impetus to get you going missing. Well i started playing with a local pop country act in south florida. Her name was amber. she's a fiddle player. And i didn't know anything about that. Jon rao at the time. So i started listening to the local country radio stations. I think it was ninety. Nine point nine kiss country and there was another one. I think like one of seven something. I can't remember the other one. Brilliant but in listening to the radio stations. I was listening to all these country tracks like man. These trump tracks are just slam bang. And and i was just blown away. I was like man. I'm really digging this. This isn't what i thought it was going to be. And then i went and saw some of these acts live and sometimes it was also slamming but more times than not. I was like man. This isn't the same as what i'm hearing on the record so then it left me with the desire to diggle deeper inquire a little further. This is the time when you go to the record store and you'd still buy cds and open them up and look at the nation. Yeah and i started. Seeing some of these players were that i was hearing these tracks on the radio. And you'd start to see patterns. You start to see guys showing up over and over again and you could recognize their sounds sound and my mom thought i was blown away by the fact that before i can even look at the water notes. After i listened to certain guys sound enough. I could be like just by hearing their fills symbol. Sounds i could be like. That's lonnie wilson or that's great or that's chris mchugh i can tell say. Let's talk about lonnie wilson. What was greg moral. Okay and chris mchugh. Were three of my favorites. I've worked with. Chris mchugh my natural days. Yeah on session but yeah he. At that time. When i was there he was the drum. God yeah nobody else played drums on albums except him. It seemed like and i was really fortunate. Just a off shoot story will quick. I was really fortunate to go to berkeley build a curriculum through the internship program where i got the opportunity to intern with him as a shadow in the studio underneath him for mchugh. Yeah oh that's crazy and he's been a really great mentor and friend all throughout my career and really help me get some really amazing opportunities. So i'm very familiar with the ins and outs of his playing. So i mean we have to pause there so so. This is a great history in great start so far but to have an internship at a young age. Fresh out of college with somebody of that stature. You can't put a price tag on no you absolutely. So if there's let's say there's a thousand musicians in the world let's just say this year was very tiny. Nine hundred ninety nine of them would not get that opportunity. Yeah i mean that's incredible. Yeah i'm really grateful in looking back. I don't even think. I could fully appreciate the way i can't now did. Certainly we're going to say that. I definitely say that i appreciate it. I knew how special it was. But looking back i look at it more from a percentile type of perspective and go. Wow that was really really extraordinary. Magnitude as you see it now and to make it even more special it wasn't. I couldn't actually get enough hours to meet my internship requirements with chris so i needed to add other drummers also with rich redman and with any bears so it was all three of those guys in order to meet that hours that the internship department required of me at berkeley and i was grateful that i had enough connections to be able to pull all this together in a way that like you said created just an extraordinary opportunity. That just really got my career off. The ground in nashville. Incredible all right. So when you're there you doing the internship. Did you start tracking in nashville. Did you learn how to be a studio musician in nashville. I did because i got to say that's the best school. Yes absolutely bright and it was watching these guys in watching frankly the situations that went. Not so great. More award really. There was a lot of tension in the room. That really really were the biggest eye opening moments in that internship. One of the ones that i could think of. I'm not gonna name names. Because i don't want to sure make anything. Read anybody trying to cause any ruffle. Any feathers is probably the best way to say it but there was a a session with an artist really well known country artists and the session players came in and they were re cutting demo that the artist had already created and they were really attached to. That's always tough. It's tough and so they had what people like to refer to as demo litis from your lips to my pat. I'm sitting here jot down. I i was there. Yeah so the artists had them elitest and you know it was these session players jobs to try and level up what they had on their demo till with the artist was even more happy with what they're creating because it's all over and i'm sitting here the fly on the wall and i absolutely one hundred percent that they pegged this tune. I felt that slate and the artists were still stuck on their demo. I couldn't believe in all these a list. I call guys put their heart and soul into crushing this track and from where i was sitting. I thought that it was next. Level ago saying and it just artist wasn't having it man. The problem is though with that. And i totally get a problem is times. Two demos are so. Well recorded. Especially in nashville. They sound like masters about it mean. I've done a lot of demo sessions where we sit back like well. Why is it a demo. It's master ready to go. You know. I don't know if that was the case here but that very well could be recorded well but again from where i was sitting from what my years were picking up. I thought that the leveled up what they were referencing flow and it just wasn't what artists was looking for a man. That's crazy all right. So you're in nashville doing sessions now. Did you internship you do and sessions and then somewhere along the way you decided l. a. again very similar path. I did the same thing. So what brought you down that road before. We even get to talk about some of the nashville backtrack to where we were originally on. Which was wanting to be a studio session cat pan. So i was listening to these tracks started to see these patterns and i realize that there is something special about these session guys and it somewhere along my path of thought. I said that's what i want to be right and in learning view studio musician what etiquette was for that and what being a studio musician called for. I realized that what i was really looking for was wanting to play with the best musicians that i possibly could and at the time that i moved to nashville and sounds like maybe the at the time. That you are nashville. The highest caliber musicians were typically residing in the studio but i got so hung up on that hamster wheel thought that i pigeonholed myself. A little bit and i was so stuck on the idea. Now because i've put that into my psyche psyche and repeated over and over again. There was some great opportunities that i feel overlooked. That weren't studio situations. Because i was so hung up on being a studio musician what ultimately realized after missing out on a couple opportunities like that is that i had to revisit that psyche and undo that pattern and reprogram it to. Oh what i really wanted was to make the best music. I could with the best musicians. That i possibly could insane. And in any scenario. And do that. So that i'm operating at the highest caliber possible within myself and within my plane and that it didn't have to be labelled studio musician or live musician and the only reason that i got stuck on that in the first place is because a studio musician at that time was where the best musicians work. Let's be honest nashville. Listen when i was there it was the same deal. You studio cat or a row dog. Yes they called. I listen. I want to be a cat and a dog. That's impossible but it's not actually and guys like you. And i and people like you and i and so many others have proven that silly all model wrong. Yeah but yes. That was a stigma with national. And i believe it's because what you just said. At the time at that era there were just the lowest cast the best musicians in that area just happen to be in the studio by sure because they wanted a better quality of life. They wanted to have the beautiful big home. Stay home with wife and kids be home at six o'clock seven o'clock every night dog white picket fence. The whole nine yards right the whole deal so that became a thing but like you just said it doesn't matter whether your studio or touring so i really dislike those stigmas and i want this podcast right now this episode of you to be a loudspeaker for this fellow career musicians out there. Please stop perpetuating that bullshit right and what it comes down to is also at the time. That's where the highest amount of value is being given to the highest amount of value in playing and when that shifted which it shifted. While i was there guys that i named earlier like greg moral started going out on the road with tricia earwood started going out on the road with faith. Hill tim mcgraw and the reason they started doing that is because the work wasn't there they weren't getting the value for the value that they were providing. It wasn't a fair exchange anymore. So they're gonna go wherever the exchange is happening and like you said could be live and it could be in the studio and they both are two very incredible skill sets to have and. I think that we're limiting ourselves by saying we're just gonna be one or the other. I want to be the cat and the dog to want to be able to. And i do feel as possible and that brings up a really good point that i think you were bringing up which is diversification. Let's talk perfect. Segue thank you. Yes so how did you get versatility book. I think i got the versatility bug from. Let me think for a minute. I'm going to be a little vulnerable here. Honest and say this. I was introduced to musical versatility through resistance. And what i mean by that is i had an unbelievable drum instructor. My favorite one still to date and he happened to be my first trump teacher named john. Jahrling and john was a monster player in the local south florida scene and he eventually became a teacher at m. i. Or not use me. Thank you and i know. I know john's name. I don't know okay and part of my studies with him was. He gave me a stack of cds every week and his musical tastes were incredibly diverse. And he said. I don't care if you like it or don't like it. He said. I want you to listen every song. Everyone of these cds before you come in every week and sometimes it was a chore to do it because he was giving me some really out there stuff. He was giving me some of guard jazz stuff. That was really pushing. The limits of what i felt was palatable for me at the time and i'm so grateful that they did that because that's where this all started for me and i'd say that because of that i've been able to be very open and receptive to a lot of different genres of music and breaking it down to not what the genre is but just what feels good to me and what doesn't feel good to me and there's value to be derived in music in all genres. You just have to be willing to take the time to find where it is for you anchorage genre and i think i pigeonholed myself and my playing. Because i didn't have enough motivation at the time for whatever reason to pursue the chops and all those different genres something. I'm coming around to now. Really excited about how i am diversifying. My abilities as a player to be able to dive into all these john that i've been listening to for a long time in hold the skill sets in the same way that i was talking about being alive guy studio guy not limiting myself in that way and also not limiting myself. What genre. I can play because i just want to like i said before i make great music with graves and i don't want anything to get in the way that i don't want myself when my abilities to get in the way. Yeah exactly and i think that's the whole point when teachers do that with their students. You don't want to have any inhibitions At all any handicaps as it were so that what you hear in your head musically actually execute and do it quickly yes very without having to analyze and think and this is what years and years and years of studying does for us. Yeah which is a good point right. The allies the ten thousand dollars for musicians. I think it's closer to thirty forty thousand dollars. Wouldn't you agree. It's a lot. I've never tried to track it at. You know i would say that. It's it's a musicians at this level for anything that you're passionate about. It's a lifelong commitment. Exactly that's it you're in it or you're not in it that's it and it's hard to be in it all the time and you gotta love it especially when there's no accolades i was draw. This parallel you think about doctors right medical doctors there either a general practitioner or their specialists so first of all by being so diversified mississippi. We already resolved to become general practitioners. Okay there are specialists out there who are amazing. Just jazz people just country people just at bluegrass but whatever it is and they're amazing that little nations. wow right. His only problem that i see in modern day society with them -nology doctors get rewarded and paid very well for all the studies that they have accomplished whereas musicians. We're lucky if we get to that position via and what. I want to try to let the aspiring generations. No is that. Be really sure that you want to do this. Because what you just said if you don't love it wholeheartedly and you're not in it for the right reasons it will eat you alive to you up. Spit you out each year. Again to you up spirituality and over and over again and if you're not conditioned for that it's enough to drive one nuts. Wouldn't you want to share a story that plugs really well into that. It's something that. I'm actually in the midst of right now in building my business that i have which is called source science sound and it's helping musicians move through the obstacles in their lives in order to tap into the deepest parts of their creativity in music and in all areas of their lives building that i sidestepped music for a little bit. I had to find another way to pull in some revenue. And i had to jump into some part time jobs in up into moving to la. This was both a blessing and a curse. But i had never held down any type of nine to five job except for being a professional musician. Or like you like to call corea musician and in diving into that and stepping away from music. I had to look at some of the deepest darkest corners of myself and we really had metsu fine the reasons and the values as to why i was doing what i was doing and why wasn't doing music and one of the biggest gifts it gave me was remembering in reconnecting with why i loved music so much and not. Everyone's going to make the choice. That i did consciously to step away for something that they love. But i also feel a lot of people in their lives are in positions where they unconsciously are not doing something that they love and they are pursuing thing that they love so whether it's music i'm to get back to your point your thing whether whether it's music for us or anything for somebody else. I think it is so important for people to be pursuing the thing that they really love to do what they love and love what they do and pursue the things that they're absolutely passionate about and for a lot of people because of the programs that their parents passed onto them. This asylum programs that exist out there. People aren't encouraged to pursue what they love and do what they love. They fall into these fear based mindsets whether they become even ridiculed for it. Yeah so everything. I think a lot of people out there. They feel what i felt in some low points of pursuing this part time jobs feel everything's against them and nobody's encouraging them to do what they do and i feel that musicians are a bit of an exception to the rule of where they have some kind of fire in them so deep and such a love for what they do that they're able to be strong enough in a lot of the face of adversity trying to pursue. This beautiful thing is wow well said well said i mean again. I like to throw in the fact. That when i first met my wife. She had a day job. Steady j. day job for since she graduated college. Choose used to that. She was conditioned for thirty years. I never had a quote unquote day. Job yeah so. I've always been an independent contractor. So i never knew what the next check was coming from. Here i look back now and say wow thirty years i survived. I've been doing. So if i get nervous to this day because i still do. I still worry about money from time to time. Man what am i going to do. And then just remind myself throw. You did this for thirty years. Why are you tripping on your thirty one thirty two. you're going to like. Oh my god it so it. Is this conditioning right. Yeah it's funny that you bring that up because my partner is the more grounded one. She's had all the types of jobs that bring in a fixed type of incoming variable type of income and that's more comfortable for her in discomfort for her is in the variable type of income. Where for you. And i very -able income because we've conditioned ourselves to trust ourselves to know that we're gonna make it happen that it's okay for us and for me. I feel a bit claustrophobic in a fixed income position. But that's only a partial truth. There actually is value instability in that. And i've learned some of that through the part time jobs. I'm interviewing for another job because there's benefit in value in having both if that's what you want to choose and ultimately what it all comes back to know is that were pursuing the things that we route to and that we love and it doesn't matter how we get there as long as we're being true to ourselves that's it you choose nora. Yeah you're y and for someone that might be fixed income path and for others. It might be variable income path for some. It might be music for others. Might be being a doctor where it might be an amalgam of all these different. And that's and that's honestly where i find myself oftentimes right because especially talking about the departments within the music industry. There's so many ways you can earn a living. Yes so let's talk about that. And let's talk about some of those ways and then i wanted to segue into your resume but we've talked about so much about the mindset of being a musician independent contractor variable income. What are some of your principles methods as a career musician because we all know principles remain the same. They don't change but methods oftentimes do. Yeah i'm gonna get again feel vulnerable here and say that growing up. I came from a well off family. And that afforded me. The luxury of not having to be concerned overly concerned with my financial situation as a result of that. I don't feel i was lazy. What i felt. I did with that was i created opportunity out of that and by creating opportunity when i mean is i put one hundred and ten percent of my energy into networking and growing my career as a musician all the energy that would have had to go into the part time jobs that i'm holding now responsibility that i'm taking for myself in that way now. That space was being held by my family for me and they were happy to do it. I'm grateful that they did now. On some level that created a bit of a blind spot for me. Because it wasn't until i chose to be more independent that i had to pick up the responsibility of the slack and that was a really hard lesson for me because age circa really recently. If i'm being honest was kind of like the last three or four years and they weren't having to financially support me that entire time because we'll get back to what you're saying. I was successful enough in putting all that extra energy into being a professional career musician. That i eventually was able to pull in enough money to sustain myself in every way in anything that they were offering me was icing on top of the cake. For whatever reason that they decided they wanted to financially give offer me a little bit more abundance but it wasn't until recently that what really pushed this to the service. When i had a kid when i had a partner and someone who came from a very different background that i came from shoe came from a background of where you're paying very close attention to being very mindful of responsibility and your finances and all the things that you need to set yourself up for success in a grounded way right and we talked about this the other day actually where she said. I'm really good at that. And she said what. You're really strong. It is seeing the bigger picture. You're really strong. At knowing that. I just have to hold this big carrot out in front of me and if i focus on it enough i don't have to look and have planned out with the little baby steps are gonna me there. I just know and feel my way through that. Okay so i'd say that's probably the most eloquent way that could save how i operated for most of my career. Which was all the successes that i've had through nashville was just. I held these big ideas in front of me kind of like what we were talking about earlier. Which was i wanna be session musician. Okay i'm not gonna plan out how i get there. I just know that. In the moment of what i'm saying. Yes and no two different things and different offers. That are coming in. I have to make sure that those offers are somehow an alignment or connected to my big idea. And that's kind of one of the big carrots held in front of me and the other big one that would probably talked about earlier. Was i wanted to always be doing my best to make the best music guy can with the best musicians can in that everything that i'm choosing an agreeing to. We're in alignment with that as well. That's your principal. Karen is your method. Yeah we love okay actually. That's really cool. So that delineates. A beautifully in digestible concept mean. That's great and i. I would say that that worked really well for me. But i also wanna spotlight that. I think i'm learning through stepping away from music and coming back to music through a whole new perspective that there's room for me to have a little bit more of a plan on the micro that blends well with the macro idea that we were just talking about. And i think that i'm gonna level up my career in music through striking the balance of the two and i'm in the process of implementing that also very. It sounds like you're you're a maverick of sorts in this realm that you founded the source science sound so i definitely want to hear more about that. I think that's the climax of this interview. If people absolutely the goal of the career musician podcast is to provide valuable insight. Aimed at supporting working musicians. Please show your support by listening. Download it subscribing sharing liking and leaving a review joined the career musician facebook group and get involved in the conversation being a career. Musician is more than just gigs. In sessions are you a career musician. Find out on the career musician. Podcast streaming everywhere empowering musicians with solutions for a sustainable career in the music industry subscribe and leave a review on apple podcasts. So all right so now. Let's get back to music. I love these principles and methods brilliant. So you've done both. You've gone on tour yen. You've done studio work so brag a little bit. Let's just let me get some credits credits. I'd say that some of the special experiences that stand out for me was my six years with hundred hays. That was really really fantastic through that. I got to do a couple special unique performances where i had an opportunity to perform stevie wonder on the awards that was really really a highlight for me. I had a similar situation where i was in house. Ben and i got to play with stevie amongst others. Yeah what was that like for you. It was incredible. I was never in his band. Yeah but it was the house band and played with him. It was really neat. I screwed up so bad. It was hilarious. This song the song side tangent the song superstitious right very superstitious superstition whatever as originally an e flat okay. I'm really like meticulous with that stuff. So i learned that song the original key. I can transpose it. Whatever you want for anything but he flat plan would stevie i bet you he's gonna play a flat and it's just you know stevie. He's the artist so jaman and i can't hear because it's a festival and it's just what you start off and i hear the klavan and i don't have perfect good so all of a sudden i hear the clever net and i'm just listening and then i started jamming because there's like these cloud parts. There's three or four ports intertwined with one another they're amazing i've dissected those parts and have learned them all so i started playing the second class part which is like ink and conquered donor inc which is a counterpart to go on the. Yeah but i'm playing e flat and near an e oh all of a sudden stevie on the microphone goes hey qatar qatar and of course i'm moving my head around like a jerk with he's i e how so embarrassed It was awful anyway. I is it going. I'm glad you did those gems that this fire musicians look to help them in their low low moments they you know and that was probably two thousand and six. Yeah all right so stevie hunter hayes. I love that you've worked one hundred six years. That's great yeah. It was bandleader and musical. Fantastic okay so who else have little big town. You have two and a half years. Was there bandleader for for part of that time as well else. I've got to fill in for carrie underwood's drummer nice. Which was a real blast. That was really really fun. That's awesome. I've some touring with pat green. Who's a big texas country artist. I've had other one off opportunities through again to play with artists. Like lady. Antebellum and dave barnes eric pass lay a lot of country acts. Jason mraz got to do something with him on the cma fest because he did a cameo on one hundred records so perform that song on on the award show. That was really cool. So a lot of crew musicians want to know. How do you go from being assigned person to music director. So let's say as you the md for six years. Yeah how did you accomplish that. What's the trajectory for that. Little big town the same so as a happen because they're a formula. I know the answer to this. But i wanna see your perspective. Yeah definitely i. I'm going to give it away. There's no formula you. I think there is a form okay. Let's let's hear. And i think to be if i'm being honest i should probably reword that i feel there is a formula but i am not at a place where i'm able to eloquently verbalize with that. Formula is but some of the things that i can touch on. There are certain qualities and characteristics. That i feel musical directors possess bam and that is the formula yes and part of what. I'm working on in through source. Science sound is being able to verbalize and eloquently share. What some of these characteristic traits are. Because i feel that it's great to be a musical director but think about of a circumstance situation where everyone in the organization possessed the same level of musicianship in quality that the musical director possessed. How much more creative potential for there would be if everybody was operating from that place. And what are some of those characteristic traits and sometimes you run into that has that type of personnel which has its own set of challenges by the way. Yeah because then. You have six chefs in the kitchen. That's true oftentimes sorry go. Yeah absolutely no. That's a great point that you bring up not loved survey found that a little bit more so hold that thought so some of the qualities and characteristics. Punctuality saying it again. Punctuality really is on time on time. Late late is unthinkable on late is unacceptable. And i've been in the unacceptable category more times. I'd like to admit unless it's a what they call an act of god in contractual right. Yeah terms there's no excuse. Yeah yep so. Punctuality is a big one responsibility. And what does that responsibility. Look on a more broken down level being aware of all the arrangements all parts that everybody's playing so that you're able to keep a helicopter view of the situation while also being able to dive back into the weeds and make creative and constructive suggestions to everybody. That's keeping the bigger picture in mind and helping the artist get towards the creative goal that they're working towards communication communication being great mediator and being able to diffuse situations by finding mutual resolutions for everybody. That's a tough one actually did an interview with the think it was from things. His name right and blackstone. He spoke to that trait. And i thought that was very fantastic. That he was bringing that to light. Because these are some of the things that i went to berkeley there was no class for that. There's no should be. And i should be the professor. I assume they're really really important. Parts of what it takes to be a career musician and a lot of the stuff that is involved in sustaining. A career in music stems so far beyond the plane and a lot of. What's they like to say. That i was reading this statistic today. Ninety four percent of communication isn't even verbal. It's everything else. Well i'd say that maybe not quite as high of a percentile but a very high percentile maybe eighty percent of what it takes to be on. A gig isn't happening with your instrument on it's happening without your instrument on and it's happening off the stage it's happening in between the takes in the studio not when you're tracking. There's all these variables that i don't feel are given enough light. They're not they're not and ignored until now. And these are the types of things that i help musicians. Bands and artists work through sore science. Sound and doing private sessions with people and bringing to light this information and helping people see where they have room to grow in order to be a complete whole musician and that means on their instrument and off their instrument and being able to sustain being a brilliant created musician and that sustainability is not just on a plane level. but it's on a mental level on an emotional level and it's physical level in all areas of life absolutely well laid out. That's the truth. Yeah so yeah. That's excellent so you answered my next question. Because basically i wanted to ask about tour and studio etiquette that is the etiquette of a great career musician in my opinion. And then that word the word keeping yourself. Nobody wants to hear your opinion. Yeah nobody cares especially stevie wonder if the song should be relied in e flat. Because nobody cares. Oh no no. I think it would be great if we did. I ask you to think and give me your opinion. No and the reason why aren't being such a take on. That is because i have to answer to the artists and the executives who are producing this album or show right. Yeah and they're not asking me. What do you think no. What's your opinion on this. Yeah no they contacted these people to perform those people contract be to facilitate their performance and contracting you to shut up and play your instrument. Yeah so the of your ability. I hate to be that blunt about it but at the end of the day. That's what it is. And here's my biggest pet peeve people forget this is a business that's why i call it a career musician. You do have a career as a musician as an independent contractor. You can't say. I'm not going to college and i'm not going to pursue a career because i want to be a musician. No dummy music is a career. That's just the one you chose. The problem is ninety ninety five ninety nine percent of the cats quote unquote the players out. There focused just on playing. Yeah why because we're passionate individuals. I get it. We're creative beings. We run on creative fuel and source and energy so when we when we're studying coltrane we go to another place when we're studying. I don't care who it is. You said avant-garde jazz or whether you're studying math metal or progressive whatever it is that. You're studying super diva and you really feel passionate about. I don't care if it's danny's whatever it is he the amber or classical whatever it is funk. R&b whatever you good so far down that rabbit hole learning to perfect that that all of these other skills and like you even said it's not really taught in the institutions. Yeah all of these other skills. People skills communication skills that are necessary to be a successful business person are neglected. Yeah you're still business person so sorry for my rant thank you. I love it all right. Well it's great. I can actually add to what you're saying by saying. I was a little bit in my younger years that i was very opinionated. I felt that that opinion was coming from not feeling validated. And it's tough being sometimes aside musician because you have to understand the role that you're playing and it's a very humbling place to be but i constantly stuck my neck out probably in places that it wasn't ideal for me to do so and i'll share this with you. Shared on another podcast. But the opinion put my opinion out there too much that it got me fired off of the richard marx gig. There you go. I think it's important for people. It is no thank you it is important. I thought that things should be a certain way. And i was sticking my opinion where it wasn't desired or wasn't even asked for and i learned valuable lesson from that and it was the winner really needed to learn in order to say you know what i could have gone about that in a way that was healthier for everybody and i think that i wasn't being true to myself by staying on the gig but i also felt that i was trying to make the gig when i wanted to be rather than saying you know. What isn't the right fit for me. So let me bow out gracefully. I had to push to the point of creating too much attention to the point of where it gob. Lecco lotta times. Inexperience and youth is the impetus of that very action right. Yeah that causing reaction so same here has been fired off countless kicks. Who really know me over the years. Probably laughing very similar being new yorker cuban-italian yorker with very well tempered manner. I've never lost my cool. Know it's important for people to look and my thing is if you're going to be a professional career musician which means well there's two aspects. I believe this decision should be made early on the career now suffered. I made the decision later on. Because i wasn't taught right. Yeah so education really is paramount on this on all these subjects. If you're going to be just a side person decide that but if you wanna be aside person and an artist then decide that as well or if you just want to be an artist. Okay so you really. There's three options there the mixed to all right. But if you mixed to don't take your artists stuff over to the side gig when you're aside man you're seidman. Your job is to keep your mouth shut. Eyes and ears wide open mouths shut and shredding as best as you can for the parts. Don't overplay don't outshine under shine. Do just right when you're the artist. Do whatever he wants to go do it. And no-holds-barred right purely uninhibited and that's the biggest thing so if you're being aside man to make pay the bills but you wanna be artist. Just remember that. Yeah and i think that's a place that maybe even unconsciously for a lotta these people that are getting stuck in this place internally and don't even realize that they want to be validated. They wanna be heard a little bit more whether it's through their instrument or through their personalities and their feeling stuck and they want it to be done differently but they're also too afraid to take that step because that's a big step that you're talking about to say i'm not going to hide behind my instrument. I'm not going to hide behind the other front man and drive from the back seat. I need to step out and do what i really feel is my truth inside and i'm actually a bit of a crossroads with that myself. Am coming to a more grounded awareness of that and looking to find ways to be the cat and the dog again like we were talking about earlier where i think they're great opportunities out there right now for me to be able to bring money in through continuing to be assigned musician. But i'm also feeling this poll to have the right environment to be able to create without any limitation and have my whole voice be heard in a way that feels right to me and i think there's a way to blend the two then. I think you're doing that right. You are assigned musician and you also have chosen to be an artist. Because at an early age i always wanted to be an artist but i was always scared because like you said it's a big leap and at an early age. I was also fortunate enough to start making money as a side man. So i fell into that so hard and i was very fortunate. I have a list of credits. That are beautiful. And i'm very grateful whether it's studio touring. The film scores everything. But i always knew. I can't squelch that artist voice. Man i just can't let it die out. Yeah you know. I you know people who set done with and put it away and now they're just doing something else. I can't do it if i do a miserable. Yeah i've tried to squelch it by ignoring it for a while and just not cultivating it but now full throttle full blast cultivation and at the same time maintaining all of my side men work. Yeah you know and it's not easy. There's nights where i do not sleep. Not only because of a working for because my mind will turn off restlessness right. Yeah you know so by the way. I'm a big proponent of naps. Because yeah i work of so glad i say if you go for eighteen hours and then you then you're blasted tired and you can't really get a good night's sleep or whatever the next day. Take an hour nap whatever it is you know right up dude. I'm going to say what are the biggest pet peeve of mine is. I don't know about the school that you grew up and maybe it was similar because we lived in the same area but when you're a kindergarten and first grade or pre k. There was nah. There's no nap time in high school. That's one we need. Nats time when your brain is working with the sat's. I needed a nap. Time in middle school and high school. I probably didn't the teachers needed nap time for kids. Do that with my daughter now. She's eleven. I take a nap. It's okay you know kids a lot of times. They always have to be up and doing some entertained or stimulated but yeah the nap thing is good. Sorry sight tangent. Glad that we've been waiting since. I was five years old saying to put that out in the world. This is good stuff man. I mean you hit on everything what i would like to really focus on now with your words. I wanna hear your words of wisdom which you've already given several if you had any tie up the way you would just rope it all into wasn't but talk about this that you created this whole thing source science sound it. Sounds like you really honest something and it also sounds like if i may be so forward. I see a collaboration in the future. Here between the two brands you know. I was loved that i don't know if that's In the ted talk capacity. Which is my goal. I i have to do a ted talk. Athlete awesome of clinics workshops seminars. Something but please divulge what to find through my own experience. Is i came to a crossroads. At the end of my time in nashville when i moved from nashville to los angeles and i was. I had everything i wanted on paper. I had everything set out to do everything. I dreamed to accomplish when i was a kid feeling and i was unfulfilled thousand fulfilled and that was a really tough thing to really look at and not just turn a cold shoulder to keep on truckin down the same path that i was on pretended like everything was okay and what i began to dive into was asking the bigger questions that sometimes people philosophize about. If that's if. I even saying that we're down miss out a good that they dive into the philosophy of why am i here. Why am i doing what i'm doing and it took me down a whole nother path that i didn't even ever expect to go down and it was kind of the spiritual path and what i mean by that is not necessarily any association with religion but getting into the deeper wise as to why things happen the way they do universal law as teric law and really figuring out the cause and effect of something on the simplest and deepest level possible the universal truths and what loves this stuff. What that brought me into was a study in energy work and a study and healing and fight took and completed a teaching certification guide. Light healing school here into luca lake and the teacher who founded that school. I had been doing sessions with him before. The school was even founded for three years before even getting into my teaching certification. That was kind of one of the big turning points for me of going down this path. I didn't expect to go down. And for a while i got so deeply entrenched in this path that i didn't even know if i was going to come back to music or not. There's nothing wrong with that and there wasn't anything know that that's you know self-discovery and it was a scary place to be because i think probably similar to you and other people who pursue music there's this passion for them for passion for music and it's always been there. It's always been there and anything. I never knew anything. So to have that to consciously choose to say maybe there's something else on the horizon for me other than what. I'm pursuing is terrifying. It's almost like a cheating on yourself. That's a really great way to put it this way because that's our only identity music so long right and that's a great point that you brought up is that i needed to find out who i was and define myself by characteristic traits. Not by what. I did for a living and say that again bro. That is so power. I needed to figure out who. I was my characteristic traits and not define myself by what i did for a living. Your job is not your identity. Yes gift is not your at yes and that took a lot of deep introspective self realization and so to kind of wrap it all up and bring it all together. I eventually realized that. When i was willing to let go of my music career was willing to put it down. That's when i realized i couldn't do it. I couldn't do it and i said okay. So what does that look like. And what beautifully emerged out of the shadows of all this introspection was saying they don't have to be mutually exclusive. These two things can exist together and the beautiful thing is that they actually are already coexisting for everybody. People are just focusing again on the playing and they're not being taught how to connect with themselves on an internal level and that's were all starts and that's what i teach and work with people and help them bring together the music and the internal self realizations and them easy actionable steps and exercises to help bring those two things together and the most beautiful amazing way possibly while that's it that's beautiful. That's why you're here today. I had no idea until you called me out of the blue and then we lost touch and then you call me again and then i did some research right. After we hung up the phone. I was sitting right here in the studio and i think it's fantastic. What you're doing it they get it needs to be dealt with. I think i deal with it all the time on my personal level internally i have this internal internal dialogue and i also write things out. Yes studying and it's amazing. How consuming this topic can be. It's it's been very consuming. And it'll consume your senator if you learn it but the point is don't let it back and i just said something prior to that we lost touch for you stayed persistent. I wanted to touch on that as well. Your perseverance will diligent a lot of times. People say why called her and they never got back to forget a man. I emailed and they never made idea on instagram. Well you know what just keep doing it. If you feel passionate about connecting with somebody or someone or some function then you have to stay on top of it right. This is fantastic. Steve source side out. Now what is the manifestation of this is an institution institutional class are their private lessons of courses that you offer. How do you actually on growing my clientele and the best way to connect with me through sore science. Sound right now is a private session coca and you can book those through my website sinatra dot me and what i'm working on currently is a webinar offering for people and figuring out how to pull that together. I'm also working on a podcast. So i could get more content and information out to people and right now what it looks like is have a really big desiring dream to work with musicians bands and artists on a big level and supporting them. When they're out on tour down on the road and having some kind of compound to where I referenced this in my mind is the first time actually saying this out loud. But kind of like a paisley park for prince facility where there's top level recording studio on site full full-scale performance rehearsal facility all on site and having it be in some kind of beautiful place where there's also lodging facilities a place where people can come and be the best versions of themselves on a personal and musical level. A place that is facilitated for creativity on all levels and housing workshops and masterclasses There's a camp out there. That i kinda us as check out every once in a while to help motivate me and it's called music masters camps. Who they kind of do something like that. And that's an upstate. New york in its. They have these beautiful grounds in the offer. Really clean organic eating the whole time. It's all part of the meeting there. So i wanna create something on a big scale down the road. That's what i'm working towards. But what that looks right now. It's just the baby steps working with anybody who feels compelled to want to dive a little deeper into understanding how were in this perpetual state of growth in were always either in it or we're not ended in finding ways every day that they could stay in that flow and can help them get their well flow state. Yeah there might be something that's showing up for you as an obstacle in your career vocationally but what people have a tendency to do is say to themselves internally and externally in in their actionable steps they say. I need to work harder in my vocation. I need to put more effort and energy into my vocation and so true sadly and ironically what the universe is actually trying to show us is that they're trying to get our attention in the area that we put our biggest focus on and for musicians a lot of times. It is music for a lot of years. I put music above everything else in my life and what the universe is going to do is actually put an obstacle in the place that you're awareness is the strongest in order to show you that. There's another area of your life that actually needs a little bit of love and attention and these the dots that i'm connecting for people through source science sound so you know just as a hypothetical free you. Maybe it could be that your family life needs more attention to the people. Don't connect the dots. And say that. If i actually go put a little bit more attention into my family area and make a couple of tweaks there that that's going to actually help my career. They think i'm taking my attention from the way away from the thing that i want the most. I think of it as a diversion. Exactly rather with is actually helping them. And i've looked at these patterns enough to be able to help people connect dots in their specific circumstances. And offer them actionable steps. So that i can say. Here's what i'm seeing as the blocks and here the actionable steps and if you do. Abc these of the resolve that you're gonna see and that's unblock the thing that you actually want. I love it. Yeah this is stuff that you would offer at sore science out. Yes right and i love the fact that you can delineate it into actionable steps. Yes that's impressive. Yeah how much of this work is research based it's all research analytics and metrics just watching it and taking down the science on. I haven't put it to paper. But everything that i'm teaching is off through self experience and self experimentation and i don't share things that i don't feel completely routed to men haven't been able to repeat a replicate in my own life so with your love this by the way with your carrot method. Yes what you just said. It's forcing you to move the carrot to a different lane so to speak. Let's say for example. You think you need to be a film composer and that's all that's your car but university saying no you an amazing teacher. Yes and now. I want you to go here. So you're real lining your carrots so this would be great. Yeah and it brings up a really great point actually is think of the universe this giant collective consciousness and each individual piece. Each human being is like a laser beam and far thoughts. Focus blazer and fire the laser and we can't not have any intention because then you just kind of find your laser anywhere in the universe doesn't know what to bring to you but you can't focus the laser beam too much because then you become blind to any other greater possibility. That might be coming in for you. So it's the balance of having an intention but being open to that there might be a better path outside of the scope that you might be consciously holy of it. I'm afraid to turn off the record. Every time i turn it off. 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Jake Borelli

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Jake Borelli

"And Matt McCarthy How are you? I'm great I'm I'm a little spent? Yeah we are recording this. After having just taken a soul cycle class to deploy there were depleted. But we're inspired. Oh always my soul feels rejuvenated. I feel renewed. Wrung out young the very best way. GotTa get you gotTa Sweat Cycle. I'm in to Luca Lake where it's kind of like Seoul Sykes crank up the heat. It's like Bickram Yoga but on a bike which sounds dangerous dangerous and it feels dangerous there. I've had moments where I was like. I might die in this room but you've never had an incident you'd have not ever step out no and I've actually never seen anybody really. Yeah it's very taxing but but it's good and the music greats. Yeah Great Way to experience music how you feel about the music and today soul cycle class. Today soul cycle class felt like a soul cycle quest auto. Remix is a lot of things I'd never heard of. It took me about ten minutes for the endorphins to reach my brain and then I just got lost in the music. I I let the music borrow my body as instructor instructed us to deal. Danielle is she's one of the best. Yeah and we'll say that outside of spin classes all I'm listening to right now show tunes really which team is self care level. Show tune the world is falling apart. And if I don't like go to the show tune channel channel on Sirius. Xm Then I'll just creep up to the news stations and all that shit or or like this is what I do. Instead of cutting I'll go to the right wing station and listen to Sean Hannity for five minutes. Oh his crazy bullshit and then. My blood starts boiling. And it's it's not good. It's not even good clean energy. It's just angry. Energy Minim- minimum. I'm John World Yourself. Yes it's not healthy so now. So now it's now it's seventy one on Broadway. Seth Radetsky giving me my favourite show tunes And it's and there's a ton from stuff I've never heard but every now and then you get something from the music man just hits your hits you right where face I know. We talked about this All time favorite show I well. I grew up on the music. Man Right My Audition Song was Gary Indiana for years and years. Which one is that Gary Indiana Gary Indiana Etcetera Etcetera I didn't do the the list. Pardon with Elizabeth Arden. Because he's missing tooth. Oh I was in the music I think but I don't remember okay Yeah So that any obviously or on any And then as adults I got into Sondheim and now company My absolute number one favorite an are you a west side story person. Yeah I like it. Yeah Yeah I mean. Of course I've told you we just saw the new one in New York. No you didn't tell me that it was it is real. It is a Gut Punch. Ya You know the the I mean the concept is like sort of fully modernized and contemporary which I thought I was sort of dreading because I thought Oh this is going to be like hip hop pre-mixes of the of the classic songs or something. But it wasn't that at all I mean the the. The songs are originals. Yeah they did cut. I feel pretty which all interesting. But the CAST is super diverse and The production design is amazing. They use video and a really cool way but they also just like remind you that this is not a like a fun. Light Fluffy Story. Which is I think the way we have kind of sanitize it. It is brutal and it is a about race and violence and all that stuff. I'm dying to see the new west side story. I'm also dine. See The new gender swapped company. Oh I don't even know what this. Yeah Yeah Bobby's woman the Dr- you could drive a person. Crazy is now sung by men So ladies who lunch says that company that is company. So it's going to be no. I think that will still be it because it will still be a couple of a male female couple and it will still be Joanne you since I was going to be putting on. Oh she was in London. I'm assuming that she will continue that. Broadway Kenneth fucking wait great now. Eight also can't wait to get Jake Borelli in this room. I mean let's not keep the people waiting any longer J. Borelli. He is the star of the thing about Harry and From anatomies anatomy. If you please Sir. He's a dream come true. Enjoy our conversation with Jake Borelli do. We're back with Jake Jake. Hey how's it going? It's going so well. How are you guys real good happy? Valentine's Day thank you happy. Premiered Day Post Premiere Day. Yes thank you How did the thing about Harry come your way? Well so I I heard about it just through my raps. They basically said that Peter Page wanted to offer me a role in his movie. And I got very very excited because I had looked up to Peter for a long time just in terms of the work. He's done in the community and as a content creator himself. These awesome shows on free form to that. I've seen trouble in the fosters and so I was just super excited and then I started reading the script and realized exactly what it was. Which was this Rom com that center around Queer guys and I literally couldn't stop reading it because it's something that I hadn't seen before something that I always search for. You know this sort of new new imagine queer content and so I immediately said yes right off the bat and of course. He told us that he had to like call in some favours at gray's anatomy in order to get you. Yes so there was quite a longer story before I even knew about the project. Which was that? He his best friend since college happens to be my boss. The show runner of Grey's Anatomy Christopher off. And she's also side note. The woman who has sort of spearheaded my story line on Grays and has given me this platform that I have as a queer artist and she's been huge and very instrumental in my career and the fact that they are best friends is sort of this. Kismet thing where he was pitching this idea of a rom com to her and apparently he was he was he was describing the lead character and she was like. Oh you mean Lake Borelli. Apparently he was like yeah. You know what Jake Preili. So he wrote the rest of it with the mind and then there was back and forth about whether or not she would be able to give me the time to leave. Grey's regular on that show and they worked it out. They really hustled and made it made it happen for me. Which is think. I'm very grateful. So do you have time to watch anything that you aren't starring in. I do but I only watched. One show is survivor. Okay I'm obsessed with it. I started watching it this summer because I played like one of those. I don't know if you guys have ever done this. Where like twenty people who get together in the park and they play survivor. It's like a very like Joe. My God yeah like we did it in Griffith Park and it's all day and you don't eat and you just do these challenges and both people out it was insane and talk us through Little Howard. You find out about it. I found out about it. Coincidentally we were just chatting about oil. Can Harry. Is this amazing line dancing? Gay Bar here and we were. I found out about it through a guy that I met at that bar and he likes to get as many people that he can. That don't know each other right so that the game's not biased. And so he was like just show up at this park at this time. The rest you learn there so just like showed up. Didn't know anybody that was playing and you show up you don't you don't eat you don't drink. You have to like throughout the challenges. You Win Water and you win food and it lasted like nineteen hours or something like that in the park until it was like dark out I made it to final two and I believe the only reason why I lost. I'm like such a fan of the only reason why I lost is because one of the girls that was playing was actually on survivor. I had seen her season yet but all the other players had seen her season. And we're like freaking out about the fact that she was playing with us and because we were there for so long this one guy who was on. The jury had to leave early because his boyfriend got voted out like second and his boyfriend wanted to leave after like sitting in the park for fifteen hours so he cast his vote when it was down to the final three even though he didn't know who was in the final two and he of course he cast it for the girl. Who was I've played survivor? Because he's like obsessed with her. I totally would have won. Had He heard my jury thing well but anyway. You'RE A winner. Yada Yada Yada got second place on like three hundred dollars. It was great because it's free money. Well what was the hardest challenge Dera? Honestly it was just tiring being out there the whole day. I feel like the beginning challenges. Were hard because you had to deal with all the other people but by the end of the day we were like standing on one foot in Griffith Park. It was thirty degrees. Balancing Cups of water on the back of our hand for thirty minutes is insane. Oh but it's fun. That's so anyway because of that. I started binge watching survivor from the beginning. The beginning beginning. Yes so ally to now. It's basically all I've been watching it my free time and Non Eastern twenty two holy cow. Okay I love the show. I don't spoil anything happens. I just. I'm looking up now. I have a friend who was on survivor. And you've got to see what season they were on because he was twenty two. I definitely know them number. One Richard He Panama. Richard Hatch is yet. Yeah is in prison for so? He went to prison for some sort of tax thing. He's out since out. Okay gotTa have him. Yeah okay. She was on Panama whatever that was early. Show me picture late. Show me a picture here. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. She's great my boss's wife and a friend she's great. Gosh do you could do survivor in real life. I would love to do survivor. I have been pitching it so hard. I want to do it so bad. I just did. An interview with the girl from survivor to she is now like She works at at e right. Is that where we just were? Yeah we were somewhat. She works there and I was like. Oh it was great Hugh Fan Mike. White can do it nobody. Can you seen his season? Right to be honest because I've been binging it it's a little bit of a blur but I'm sure if you showed me a picture out with her. Yeah yeah he was the. He's like no eyebrows. Very Blonde came on his dad. Yes with his dad. His Dad or his dad had been on previously or something. Just saying there's a chance I haven't gotten that far okay. You haven't gotten a Blair from the facts of life. No WELL MY GOSH. Yeah twice. I think my Gosh. This is great. She was on slightly verging on spoiler. Territory. Saying forgive you something. What did you grow up addicted to watching? Oh my gosh. I was addicted to Sitcom so I would watch like full house and I know it's super controversial now but I was obsessed with Roseanne back in the day. The television show not necessarily the person yes but I love the show. So I I would. I would binge nick at nite how they would. They would play like at that point. Older sitcoms I would do that so yeah. That was my jam. What about music do you you? Are you an apple? Music Person Spotify spotify. Okay I'm not the best when it comes to naming songs artists but like give me a spotify playlist and I'll probably know all the songs I don't know who they are or what's going on. It's going to be that way. Yeah experiencing music through the algorithm and just letting things play based on what they wind Lee. Trust spotify yeah and it's been it's been doing okay but I love like singer. Songwriters cerebral ellison one of my favorites. Yeah Dermott Kennedy. Found him on spotify obsessed with him. You know people like that. How were Your Oscars? Oh My Oscar. Your personal laws guys. I was so we've been doing a lot of press. The thing about Harriet which has been great and so we did this whole Big New York press trip and we got to view the movie at the center and it was great and so then I flew back on Oscars Day with the intent to like make it back in time but in order to make it back in time I had to take early early flight so I got home and I slept for like fifteen hours totally go all day. I've fell asleep at three. Pm and woke up the next morning right so fast asleep during the Oscars. I hear it wasn't me. It was pretty good. There are some good moments. Yeah we're you invested in any of the performances or movies. I mean I love to marriage story I I was just like a huge fan about driver in that and so I was waiting for that to be honest. I Yeah I was news in so okay. Don't know much about it you don't we obviously seeing a lot of Adam driver lately. He can only have that haircut like can you imagine him with literally Connor Care. Yeah but also I think his head is shaped like a Easter Island hiding under the JV his head and see what the actual shape is. Now I really want to see him with a buzz cut. Yeah yeah starting right now. We're like what is Bald Adam driver. Yeah I don't know I don't know that we'll ever see I think he's his head is made I also he's wearing it. I can't really talk. I've had this Harrison. It's literally like second grade. We'll see here. Thank you are from Columbus Ohio? Yeah where'd you go to High School Upper Arlington? The I'm from Waverley. But you've probably heard of our south. Okay I need village but Columbus was. I was born there. Her Lale mother went to Upper Arlington. She went top Arlington. Best friend went to a mom. It's like not a magnet school but it's sort of a fancy art school for Hayes. Oh yeah there's a chance that your mom and my mom went to high school together. How crazy is that? My mom was born while she probably won't tell you but she was born in. Nineteen sixteen when she was born. Does she does. She's still living at New Jersey. Okay okay different. So families in Ohio and Jersey and Florida all the places. You've really WanNa go get stanton. That's easy let's take a quick break right back Dave. We love therapy. I truly love. It wouldn't be here without it. Not An exaggeration and I do have loved ones in my life. Who have not done therapy. They don't know where to start and always tell them better help. Yep Better help will offer. Licensed counselors who are specialized in issues such as depression. 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The doctor on that show and she called me when I was in New York spending time with my friends and she basically pitched me this idea that I that my character would come out of the closet and she really wanted to tell the story and she wanted to tell it through my character and immediately. I had two very strong feelings. One was super excited as a fan of the show. And someone who knew how important this would be. I was ecstatic. That a show. This massive was gonNA tackle this story line but then also super terrified because I wanted to be an actor since I was in eighth grade since back in Ohio and I had sort of come to these conclusions that if I came out as an actor that could affect my career in port way. You're not at that point. I like my favorite movie was finding Nemo growing up and all I could hear was that. Oh the woman who played dory had a delegation show that got canceled because she was clear. It was just little things like that. That might sort of like eighth grade brain latched onto and it caused me to stay in the closet way longer than I probably should have or would have had. I not how these preconceived ideas about the industry so at the point when she pitched the story to me. I was out to you know my friends and my family and my daily life but I was still pretty closeted in terms of the industry and so I knew if I was going to take on this character and talk about clearness in the industry that I would really want to be honest about my own life in my own experience and so I knew I would have to come out so I was very terrified and she told me to take the week and think about it and he talked to my parents and I immediately called her back in thirty minutes and was like. Let's do this. Let's tackle this story because I knew how big it was going to be for so many people because I knew how big it would have been for me and then we sat down and had a long conversation about my own clearness about what I would wanna see as a queer person about the queer stories. I would want to tell and we talked about how if we were going to do the story. I wanted to do it in a way. That didn't revolve around. Shame done I wanted to see a story about somebody coming out. And and feeling invigorated by it and feeling full of pride because of it and she listened to all of that and went back to the writers and they came up with this amazing story. And it's sort of why one of the reasons why Levi is this sort of like voice for like a having pride about who they are and being vulnerable in their feelings and how they care themselves and I love him and Christopher writing him and how about coming out in your personal play Mike. How will coming out personally before that? How did that go like in terms of when I first came out? Yeah Yeah I mean so. I pretty much made a decision in eighth grade that I was never gonNA come out ever and I stuck to that. I came out to my dog and that was about it and the ticket. I'm sorry out of the dog ticket. I you know she was. She was pretty okay with it. She didn't have a lot to say but she she was still my friend. That's correct but I pretty much stuck to it and I didn't come out to anybody for all of high school and it was awful because I knew that my friends would love me for it and I knew that I believed that I would be accepted. I was so terrified. Still even though and I think it's because a lot of these stories that we see in the media it's you know a lot of the queer content that I grew up watching was all shame based and it was all about fear and I think it scared me more than it needed to be which is why when I was given this opportunity. I didn't WanNa tell those types of stories but then it became way too hard to stay in the closet and I came out to my best friend in the summer right before senior year so I was seventeen and she cut my secret for a year and she's still my best friend at this day. She's coming to the premier with me. Tonight she lives out in. La and then I moved to L. A. Right after high school. I was like this is great at my one friend knows that. I'm out I'M NOT GONNA come out anybody else and then after like a month of being alone in La. I had a mini panic attack and I was like I can't I was like oh my gosh for some reason. I feel like my mom is dead or something and she doesn't know I'm I was like as an eighteen year old living alone and and so I immediately got on. An airplane. Flew back home. Came out to my parents shortly after came out to my brothers and you know very shortly after that my friends. It was like it. There is no point in staying in the closet difficult you decided to take a pause at the most turbulent spot literally just before you're just before you're telling me you figured it out for yourself but like that moment where you're just at the end of the high dive. You stayed there for five years. Yeah and it was. It was looking back. It was all based fear Jer because my family has been so wonderful and so supportive. I think the tricky bit is i. I thought if I wanted a career in this industry I had to keep it a secret and I didn't WANNA put my family through that secret either so I thought Oh. If they don't know right they don't need to keep a secret. Which is awful if you look back on it especially now if you look at if you look at the career. I've been starting here. It's been wonderful and I've been supported by so many amazing creatives and so many amazing companies and you know. Granted timing is everything but I wish I could have looked back and been like you know what? Relax a little bit. Enjoy yourself and your life and the career will come later because at a certain point I see I I was like the career can't have this much of me anymore. So what was dating like in that window when you're out you're already here you're already you know an actor in La but not out professionally. It was fine. I think it's pretty much similar to how it is now because all of my friends knew I was gay when I was going to parties. I was gay if anyone asks me. I was gay so it was fine. It just became a little bit difficult when I would go to work and I would feel like I needed a bite my tongue and it didn't. It didn't allow for like any sort of relationships to come from the people that I was spending most of my time with which was at work like I was on. Nfl Odeon show forever. And I never talked about it. Granted it was a lot of young people and but by the end of that show. I finally came out to everybody and it just change relationships even to each other and I I realize like Oh you know what this is actually how I wanna live. My life were their forces in your life. People are voices who were encouraging you to stay in the closet professionally. No not really it. Was this huge idea that I built when I was a scared young kid in Ohio. And I think it's almost like it's almost even worse that it wasn't one person who gave me really bad advice. It was advice that I felt. I was hearing from a large group of people or the entertainment industry as a whole or even more importantly the consumers of the entertainment industry. I was like okay. People in the industry are very inclusive and open but they're still marketing to you know a huge population in middle America and growing up in Middle America. I felt like I was hearing. This is not okay. We can't fall in love with a queer person. So what's dating like for you right now? It's also very hard. It's hard because it's like I went I went from it being hard to date in like a millennial world anyway to now. I have some semblance of notoriety within the queer community. And so if I go out to like West Hollywood or a gay bar a lot of guys know who I am and so it's a little bit difficult to know. Oh is that guy hitting me or is that guy like wanting to chat with the dude for enemy. Do you know what I mean because I lived with myself for twenty five years before Grace Anatomy and I knew how guys treated me. So it's like my my. Bs meter is a little kind of fine tuned but updating is very difficult now of course can you be on? I'm not really on the APPs anymore. Do Araya a actually just set my up with a riot too. So we're both on Ryo but it's so hard to meet people to. I feel like people just really like matching with each other but grabbing coffee into anything beyond that. Yeah what Song is on your radio profile. Oh my God oh what is the? What makes these boys for hard? It's by Barcelona. I forget what it's called me. Yeah I could pull it up right now here. Oh my gosh wait. Let's see I can't even find Ryan my phone therapist. Yeah that song called bird by Barcelona and it was like judge my profile and see if it's yes. I'm not getting headline is which photos you chose. Shy played out loud or ensure. Yeah this is the lead photo. Call takers I should update the. I don't know this at all green cartoon. Well that's I pay today. I'm a painter and so I don't know why maybe to show that see. That's one montage of res. Q maybe I could update the photos a little bit. I honestly I think some of the photos are don't do justice. I don't mean to you but here's the thing. I don't want false advertising either. So I'm like I don't want you to like waltz in and be like ooh I'll show you know the one with me. Like in my. You know my quitters at Christmas just sitting there and I'm like that's me. What's the headline? Say or what are. What are you putting out there writing? Let's see let's see I gotta pull it back up again. Did I even write anything? Oh I didn't write anything. Maybe that's the thing to. Oh well maybe you I mean it's really read these leaks. What if now's the time? Oh yes we compose or should we better profile? See what I actually need. I need you guys to set me up with somebody. Need like a corroborated human. You know what I mean. Maybe that's better than we can. We'll do some brainstorming. I can do for awhile. Is To do a live show where we have on some of our favorite guests who are single and do a dating show show Joe for sure. Be a contest idea. But there's also something known as the home affiliate bump. I don't know that you're GonNa want this. Sounds scary your your. Dm's are open. You'RE GONNA after this airs out of the Woodwork. I can't read the dams because people are already flooding. The right and through some of them are a little scary. Who really just like a little aggressive. You know what I mean. I'm like Oh has a stranger. Deanne that you you know what I will respond to that one cute guys on the DM's. But I I feel like I can't do I don't know but you're starting out with a with a power inequity right exactly no you. You don't know them as well right. How do you navigate well and also there's a it's it's a it's a power thing but then there's also feel like people that have fallen in love with Levi Schmidt? My character on grey is are not necessarily going to be in love with me and it's and I believe that because it's happened before I've literally gone onto days with guys and like you can tell that they're disappointed when I leave my Schwinn and I'm like what did you expect guys come on. Yeah but but it feels like you are very similar to leave. I in ways. You're not literally a surgeon. Made is appointed. Yeah I'm a little bit more like I'm a little bit more jaded than him. A little more pessimistic. Maybe these are awful words to say about myself. I think he's just a little bright eyed little more bright eyed in earnest than I am. You've got more edge super edgy. Yeah I'm like Super Edgy. Yeah that can be your headline option. An option that's all you need to swipe on that or do whatever you do what you do on a date. If it's yours to plan I love going on a hike and I know it's super basic but I go on like three hikes a week so you know. There's only so many podcasts. So like if I can bring a guy on the hike with me. I think that that's great and I'm also like if you can't handle a hike like you're not gonna be able to handle this. You know what I mean so I would also love to go camping or something. Good that feels like you can't do that on a first date. You might get killed aggressive. Yeah do you have a dog? I would love dog. Don't have to. I feel like I saw one on the right thing. I I feel like my schedule's all over the place I wouldn't. It wouldn't be fair to the dog but it was my goal this year to get a dog okay. It's not happening. Well the years young are you time. I want to date a guy with a dog. There you go. That's what I want a step dog. Yeah that'd be a great step Dog Dad. Yeah for sure all right so we hike whereas dinner. Oh Gosh we I don't WanNa tell there's a lot of fun. Dinner says in the area that I live and I love going to them on a regular basis. So usually I'll go there okay. Yeah don't WanNa tell you creeps address Have you had sort of the the The the the big heartbreak relationship has was. Is there a long term relationship? That didn't end the way you want to try to heartbreaks big heartbreaks. Why not was this boy that I met when I was still in the closet in Ohio in in high school? There's this thing called the G. Y. C. Which is Stands for the gay you center and it was this website back then. Where sounds a little creepy now but you had to be under eighteen. You had to be like a youth to sign on truly. Don't know how they regulate that. But I met this guy on there and we talked all the time we like swapped skype names and we would skype so I I knew he was also my because I saw him and he went to the University of Kentucky which was close to Ohio and we will chat all the time and then all of a sudden he just signed off. Signed on again. Right you've never met in person. Tragic no because we were both too afraid that we would kill each other on accent. It was like the other person would kill the other person so tragic. How did it go on? Oh it was like a whole summer and then into my senior year so I was like you know skyping with him until like three o'clock in the morning types it was crazy rape and and so then we didn't talk at all and then I moved out to La and he messaged me on facebook. Gramley one day and then we've now since met an are you know we we know each other. We're in each other's lives. But he was for sure I. Yeah but I love my first heartbreak and then you know I had a boyfriend here that in hindsight I definitely loved and it did not work out. Were you the lever? The Levy? I left him. Yeah I left him because we were at the point where I think it was where either going to fully commit to each other or not and I think that I was at that point in my life I was so ready to like sink. The clause in that you know I'll admit I was a little smattering. So he left but I look back. I wish I would have maybe relaxed a little. Bit Right Yeah. This was a while ago. I want to get back to the guy the online guy. Yeah you had built up years by this point of expectation around data sky. I hadn't I hadn't come out to anybody right. Had you even seen pictures of one another? Yeah Yeah Oh were you like video skyping. Yes we're video games go so we were chatting on goic for a while and then we worked up the courage to actually like video and then so then we would. We have this skype real. It was like a pen pal situation. You know what I mean but like a new age. It was literally like love Simon truly but with video so we knew who each other were. Yeah and when you reconnected later. Did He have an explanation? He said that he loved me too but he was terrified of it that we were both so young he had just entered college and it was. It was too much I think for both of us at the time and he was still pretty much in the closet and you know and then he was in college and he started dating in college and he needed that time. Yeah Yeah but so meeting in person for the first time I mean. This is an intense kind of online dating situation. You know see each other. Virtually for a while and then in real life. What was that like was that John? Lewis experience it was literally like a Love Story. It was great. He came out to La. We may him and my roommate went down to Santa Monica and hung out at the beach so it was so nice. There's a there's a third person there. Oh Yeah I mean there's still fear there's so much fear which is such a shame that that's the type of dating that I had to do when I was a teenager that I couldn't just like date the guy in my high school because there was so much beer and shame. And Yeah so that sort of what we were dealing with little to add if you think about it right I mean. It's a good story because of that. You are forced to do so much of your growing up at a delayed delayed timetable later in life. Yeah which I think is a huge issue within the queer community and everyone has a very different timetable. Yeah well how did shame like manifest itself in high school? It sounds like your family was pretty supportive. Yeah Like where were you getting those negative messages? I think it was from from media. Yeah also I grew up in a very Catholic Environ mench I think religion played a lot into it. Yeah I grew up with one side of my family was very Catholic. And they're now since so supportive and they've always been so supportive but I think growing up in the church. There's always you always hear things about what queasiness is and what they want to define clearness as and you know. That's a huge part of growing up in Ohio too and in Columbus and so yeah I was definitely hearing a lot from the religious community to its does Catholicism. Play a role in your life. Now or any religion or spirituality no not at all not at all literally me and my brothers were all three confirmed and the second that I got confirmed so my dad was never religious but my mom grew up in a very Catholic family so they had decided okay. We'll raise the boys Catholic and then re died like never came to church with us and we just really didn't ask it was just. That's what dad does. And then the second pretty much it felt like that I got confirmed. My oldest brother was like Oh. I'm not really religious. I don't believe in God and then my middle brother was like me too and I was like wait. Hold on me too so it was just over at that point. All right. We're done with that so for our listeners. Who are for you know maybe guys in our life who wanNA slide into the. Das are interested in taking out. Really who need apply? What are we looking for might tight? Yeah Oh gosh I mean you need to be driven. You need to really have a goal in life. I don't really care what it is though just like something interesting. I like curiosity a lot. So if you can sort of teach me something about something that you love like that I like outdoorsy guys. The camping and hiking super important. Yeah I don't know I like is utterly crafty. That can fix things you know what I mean like. There was a guy that I went on a date with and we got a flat tire and he had a pressure gauge in his car. And I was like. That's the hottest thing I've ever seen credit even know you could buy a pressure gauge then even ties. Yes while I mean. We went to like a place in fix it but he he. He literally like like looked measure. The tire pressure with a pressure gauge that he owned. But it's just there. Oh my God what happened with him. How did how was that? Well I don't think he was. Actually gay is the. Oh actually. Let's go back to the beginning. It wasn't really a date. Oh straight friends that you thought it was a day. It was the worst. That is the word. Yeah learns that he was straight. Yeah he told me on the date. It was so funny because we were going to a spilling the good he right now. He better not be listening to this. We were going to my friends comedy. Show Helen Hong owner. Larry yes great so we were going to her comedy show and I had totally like pitched I was like yes. Oh come but I'm going to bring boy and she was like. Oh my God yes like. Bring the boy. The boy got spilling all the be even a little further ahead. You meet this guy. I don't want to say I'm not going to say we can believe it. I guess he knows now. I will tell you off. I'll tell you guys later. This is so embarrassing. Whatever he knows now so we go to the show and he basically like tells me right before I introduce him to Helen that he's straight until I immediately go helen straight and she's like what the F. Like come out did he tell. Did he tell you because he thought he needed to? Yeah well I think I was sort of fishing because he none of us really knew what was going on. Yeah so I was sort of like throwing the line out there. I said something about like being clear being crean. He's like Oh yeah like as a straight guy like and I was like. Oh did you not believe him? I don't know I. I've learned to believe that people people tell you what did I just say? I like to believe the things people tell you see. I'm yeah it's tough. One says a fresh wound. But I get it. I mean once. He saw that tire pressure checker. I mean the signs were there. I don now have you. Have you had the painful crush on the straight guy? Oh yeah okay. It's there's something even happens later in life there's something familiar and comforting about it. You know what I mean. It's like it's pretty now. You know what is going to happen to. You know what's not going right. There's yeah there's there's order instability but it's painful one two haven't really experienced that since college. You are so lucky very lucky. I also surround by straight guy friends or people that you so. No one's going to have a crush on. They're not listening. I don't think this straight guys just in general. Don't listen Jake. This was so fun and I wanNA keep you here forever but you have a ton more interviews. You're just we could keep talking forever. You're busy yes I guess. Let's talk a little bit more about the movie before you go. Okay okay. It's it's so sweet is feel like exactly what I needed some like. It feels like a Valentine to the queer community. Yeah and I can't imagine anybody else playing your role Thank you how much of you is in your character. I mean quite a bit. I think that there's there's quite a bit in there because for the second half of the time Pierre was writing the movie he had me in mind already so I think he's sort of sprinkled in things he knew or like assumed about me I it's a lot. They're Kinda Taipei. He's pretty tight bay I do want to like effect change in this world and I think I'm with his political background and his aspirations to make us world a better place. He's very much doing that thing as well. You know he's been burned by love. Which after that sway realize I guess I haven't always got sense memory Connecticut. All of that out you'll be left with three minutes. So yeah I think he's also navigating what it means to like fall in love again entrust in love and and all of that. I will say I think maybe a little bit more on the Opel side than than he is. I mean I still go on these dates all the time you know. You gotTA keep Tryin. We gotta find your airy exactly. Check those games. I guess it's all we can tell you. He's so me and say I'm have a lot in common well. Everybody needs to watch the thing but here you're on free form ten. This comes out. It'll be available on demand. You can literally watch it any time on Hulu. Want Jake Borelli. Thank you thank you very much. This is a blast. The thing about Matt Kanchi stand. He's always a joy to sit across the table from and talk. The thing about Dave Holmes is that he is a dream come true with head of hair from heaven. Thank you so much and the thing about Jake. Borelli is that he is a perfect guest and he had so much fun talking to him shows up with a shirt that has given me George Harrison. Yes meeting the Maharishi Maharishi. Yeah some sounds right. I feel three point is he is a doll. He really is. Thank you to Jake Borelli and obviously go go. 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Sue Kolinsky & Cathy Ladman - Movietalk

Mental Health Comedy

1:00:24 hr | 2 months ago

Sue Kolinsky & Cathy Ladman - Movietalk

"Good morning good afternoon. good evening. Welcome to the mental. Health comedy podcast. I'm your host. Ed crasnick my co host a licensed therapist jennifer kalari. What we coming up in just a minute and on this show We're going to talk about movies and mental hawk. How movies relate to your mental health. And we're going to do that with two of my very good friends. Lucky to have them both. Really talented comics writers performers. Kathy lagman and sue kalinski. That's coming up a little later We also are gonna do some questions and answers listener questions and Some answers from jennifer things that we haven't done before we're gonna talk about parenting. We're gonna talk about self parenting. We're gonna talk about again about the difference between being kind and being nice and how to navigate difficult friendships. All of those kind of things are coming up on the show I want to talk about movies because they've had such a big a place in my mental health. It really was the sanctuary for me as a kid. Movie moments that affect what you think and how you feel in your perspective and of course lobbies moments stayed with me. The movies was one of the places that i felt. Okay otherwise i was driving myself insane. Didn't know that feelings don't make you a bad person. So as a kid and a teenager i had a headache most of most of the time but twenty four hours a day. But there was one place has a kid especially. We had an old summer house. That was between boston and cape cod in a town called nand task beach about twenty miles south of boston and It was a working class middle class summer town. And you knew you were there because as soon as you came around the corner you begin to see the tip of a wooden roller coaster huge wooden roller coaster and the ocean behind it and it was an old amusement park called paragon park and we spent a lot of time there and this this summer town we lived on an alphabet. St twenty nine th street but the drugstore and the baseball field was it l. street and on the edge of that field was a place called the bayside movie house. Maybe it was even a house. I'm not sure it looked like a house in the front of the gray stucco building. There were two big movie posters on street level and i would stand in front of them and just look up and imagine what these movies were to sir with love. The russians are coming into mad mad world behind it an and then also outside on the bottom level was A rolltop concession. Stand like a window that they would roll up and you get your uber's in you raise nets new racist cups and your pixie sticks. Your milk duds your candy buttons on the strips of paper. It was fiber in those days. You put them all in your mouth. You look like a gerbil going up the stairs and down the stairs into a seventy five seat maroon velvet movie theater palace. They had fifty cent rainy day. Matinees for kids. Fifty cents would get you into c don knotts film retrospective costa mr chicken. Reluctant astronaut incredible mr limp. Two kids don knotts was an acting genius. He was the fish and in that theatre. All the smells old would saltaire. Fresh popcorn come all over the floor rain on a tin roof. And i loved the movies because when the lights went down. The feelings came up at in the movies. I never had to take care of anybody. The movies have always taken care of me and so that that kind of stuff like lives in my memory and we always like to welcome you no matter what emotional state you're in no matter what state our listeners are in here are emotional shoutouts if you've decided to call this the summer of love and have been singing the song purple haze to your cat. Welcome if you'd like to barbecue your leftover feelings from third grade. Welcome if you're trying to reimagine burning men in your bathtub. Welcome if you've mirrored your tele therapy session at a drive in and your therapist is on a screen. Three hundred feet high. Welcome if you go to a pool party in your pajamas and jump in any way. Welcome if you eat your potluck dinner. You're bringing to your friend's house. Welcome if you start to watch a horror movie and start screaming during the opening credits. Welcome and if you're beating yourself up even now there's always a place for you right here from the mental. Health comedy podcast. Today's show is brought to you by you over you over. Looks like an attractive pair of cool sunglasses. But with their photovoltaic lenses they allow you to reimagine and actually do over the difficult challenging painful past experiences. You've had remember that our teacher in kindergarten. That made fun of you because you couldn't draw. Well you just throw masterpiece on. Her face bullies a crazy boston insane rate in college and abusive ex. You over lets you do you over the way you truly are. It's an inner funhouse. Make the pass a real present to yourself with you over time once again. I want to bring in our special our special guests that the person who actually has a licensed since should be doing this my partner jennifer kalari otherwise known as the high priestess of the hippocampus known as the overlord of oxytocin known as the sultan of serotonin and many other things jennifer First of all we have something a little different today. we have. We have both questions that listeners have written because people are apparently are very curious about why they feel so crazy and and we also have we have maybe some self questions things that you can ask yourself. And i noticed how i accentuate the word self on at any rate so so i thought we could get them there from all over the world I think you have one that may be. I have a good one. Yeah you wanna start with a one shooter so you know how we always talk about on the show. That life is a bit like standing in a canoe right. You're always trying to your wobbling and you're always trying to find your balance and you're trying to find that center so one listener i think was specifically talking about her kids Why am i kids. Rock the boat on purpose and wouldn't they rather have an easy life so that's an interesting one ad because two kids do it on purpose. They they kind of do i mean if if parents out there it's it's parenting is really hard. It is and the reason it's hard is because you're not actually a parent you're actually a substitute frontal lobe right. So your job as the parent is to be a prosthetic frontal lobe so your job is to coal regulate with your child. So you're providing. That brain function of inhibiting behavior deleting out irrelevant behaviour. Motivating yourself Organizing yourself shifting attention Doing what's important Editing out things that you shouldn't say out loud in all of that work. It is a very sophisticated part of the brain in it. It takes twenty five years to grow that part of your brain so parents are actually the substitute part of that brain until their kids are by twenty five so when kids are babies you're regulating for them when they're little kids your code regulating with them when they're teenagers you're kind of co regulating with them but then letting them do it themselves a little bit in when they're old enough they kind of do it on their own and then they have their own child and become a frontal lobe for that man. That's kind of how it works. So the biggest thing i want parents to know is not really that they're doing it on purpose. It's they're trying to figure out life. They're trying to practice everything and do everything that they can. As kids experience all kinds of things that are going to take into their adulthood and your job is to inhibit. Their negative behavior organized the motivate them. Get them moving. That's why it's like pushing a boulder uphill with your kids everyday trying to get them to do things and so parents have this idea that they should tell their kids to do something once. And that's enough they should learn. They've had a time for that already. Why isn't that enough. And it's not enough because you're providing a constant on-going a brain function for them. Which really doesn't help that much other than it's an explanation for it but it's why parenting is so hard. Wow okay so so. There's a scientific reason they're not plotting against you necessarily although get although you know there. There's there is some you know they're trying to figure out the boundaries and certain limits and test them and do think and this is these are thanks. That kids are supposed to do right. I mean that's growth. Yeah and based on temperament like some kids regulate more on their own like some kids are up in the morning and brush their teeth. And they've highlighted with the yellow marker where you need to sign their their form for their school trip and they're very rare but there are kids like that but most kids live in time not out of time so they leave in the moment. they're not thinking. Oh traffic might be bad on monday morning. I should probably wrap this up and get ready like they don't think like that. That's our job to think that that's that's higher order thinking that's executive functioning an even though you've done it every monday they will not make that connection so part of it is dad in the other is some kids. Explain this they get like addicted to adrenaline kind of. That's why when you have let your kids out of the car they just go crazy. And they're screaming and you're discharging all of this energy and it's so frustrating. It's why they bug their siblings. It's why they deliberately do things sometimes to get us going. Because just before we get mad they get a blast of adrenaline and adrenaline is a stimulant like just like adhd medication that lights the frontal lobe up and helps it. Do its job so they actually feel better after they've driven us crazy and we're completely exhausted. My own daughter. Olivia has now seventeen and a half. When she was about seven she said to me. No me. I really like the feeling just before i get in trouble and that's a pretty good explanation of how adrenaline feels. And if we flip out all the time and overreact in in parent from this place of sort of panic and anger kids can kind of almost get addicted to that. that's how they regulate well when mom flips out and dad loses it. That's how i know i've hit. The wall now. Pushed them too far now. I should behave right. I yeah i mean. There's a i got i like that. You're just explaining what's going on. Because it's there is their science to this and there's also chemistry to this and there's a physical element to this that has to do you know and i think if you're more aware that you can look at it differently. I think helps you not take it so personally right because sometimes it does. It feels so personal and hurtful especially if teenagers and teenagers can be pretty mean. It can be really hard to take sometimes with what we talk about. All the time is everyone's got their their worries in their concerns in their stressed out and it can leave a so raw sometimes and our kids. Just go for it and it's it's awful. Sometimes it really is. I also like a mantra that I heard from our friend. Rini jane at goes and dot com and and this is really a cool thing. The mantra is. They're not giving me a hard time. They're having a hard time. That's a really good way to put it. That's a great way to put it. Here are a couple of a few questions from our listeners. Allie from deluca lake. Right here and california alley into luca. Lake deer and jennifer. I have a friend who means well but as often telling me how to deal with my kids. She has strong opinions of what is right and wrong. How can i respond to her. It's driving me crazy okay. So this is tricky. Because we're not. There's not a ton of information to go on. We don't know if this best friend forever if this is a you know if there's history here 'cause i mean the thing about friendship really is as we get older in our lives. We we need to be pickier about who we spend our time with. You have less friends but their quality friends and if you have people who are adding to your life overall i mean there will be times where a good friend just really needs you. And it's and it's you're putting more into the friendship for a while and they are but then it evens out when they do something for you but overall the trend is this person is negative and judgy and you kinda dread calling them and that's going texted me off the end of them back your body talking to you and we've talked many times on the show at about nice versus kind and sometimes keeping a friend around that we really in our body. Were just not getting a lot of that friendship. It's just not feeling like it's adding to our lives significantly. It's key might even be feeling like a little bit toxic. Even though they mean well that may be a time to really evaluate either pulling back from that friend or Discontinuing friendship and that's not easy to do But i think we have so little time you wanna spend it with people who together. You're enhancing each other's lives and helping them. So what was the question again. It just sounds like she's telling her how to parent. Yeah she's telling her out a parent and you know there are people they have a right and wrong type of thing like this is really what you should do with your kid right. Which is you know. They have a right and wrong and wrong thing. And i you know i mean i think. I think that that the question really is like. What's the response. So i guess so. Guests of responses is if you're if you're nice and you're like oh thank you okay. I'll try that then. You're not even being nice to the person because you're giving them the idea that this is actually okay. And it's not really crossing a boundary but it is obviously the listeners. Feeling a bit. This doesn't feel right to her. So kind response would be look. I really appreciate everything you're doing. I love that you care for me and my kids and i do appreciate that But i've got this. These are my kids. And i actually don't need your advice on this but thank you. I mean and that's hard to do but it might take the person back and they might be mad and talk to them for a while but that's actually a kind response a to you to the person because they're setting a boundary and be actually giving the other person accurate readout. Now we sort of figure ourselves out using emotional sonar but if the person that we're communicating with is not giving us accurate feedback. They're pretending it's okay when it's not How are they ever going to adjust right. Ben is not even this person's fault. So i think the best thing is to be really kind. I connect before correct. Hey i love that you care about me. I love that. You're putting a lot of thought into this. You think about us. I really do appreciate that. But i'm actually figuring some stuff out on my own. These are my kids. And i've i've got this. And i appreciate you know we didn't have these conversations anymore. A lot of people can't do that but honestly it's the best thing to do. Yeah and the person might be upset. The person might be upset. And you're not responsible for how they're going to process it. You're trying to be cognizant of what you're saying to them They're gonna have their own response and you don't have to fix it and you know they may not talk to you for a day but if they're real friend if it's a real friendship then you'll come back together and you'll figure it out and on a day like sometimes. This person is probably doing this to other people in their lives. So giving that accurate feedback is actually the right thing to do. As long as it's done with kindness and what happens to really nice people is were nice and we're nice and we're nice and then we snap. Will you wind your own business. And then the person is hurt and then the prison is upset because then it came from a reaction then it came from a place of anger and fear. And you know we don't do our best our best work that way. Well you know. i'll. I'll just do it with like two seconds very quickly. Hey you know. I gotta tell you something when you when you let him you know get over on you that way and you don't set limits you know. It's really giving him a really bad message. And you know your kid is going to like. Who's in control here. You know what. I mean of it. Well first of all you know what. Let me think about that for a second. Because you've given me that advice before. And i know that it's coming from a place where you care about us and you care about my kid and and you're not i mean i'm going. I'm hearing some of what you're saying but you know it's actually making it really hard for me when you tell me how to parent it. I'm having quite a reaction to it and i. I really would like you to not do that anymore. I think it's better for our friendship. You've said what you need to say. how about. We just talk about parenting anymore. I'm getting in my car. And i'm driving to now i. That's yeah well that's of course you know and it's like you'll figure it out you'll figure it out you'll figure it out and sometimes it's just like it feels like a lot of work and the reason why feels like a lot of work is because i'm being honest that's exactly right and your work and you're not being honest with them either right now the other thing though. This is a little thing. That i always think is important for us as we maneuver through life everyone in one in our life can be a guide to us in some way whether we decide to keep them in our lives or not they can teach us something right so the other thing i want people to in similar situations to this is to ask themselves. Is there some truth there. Am i pushing that person away because there's pain and sometimes where there's pain there's truth and there's a lesson and sometimes we're hearing something that we know but we've been choosing to ignore and i always say to people you hear the same thing from three or four different sources completely different sources not the same group. Sit up and listen. It's time to listen rights. It don't just push people away. Who make you feel bad. Really be on a multiple level saying Why does this person feel like they need to say this to me. Is there some truth here. Is there something that. I know that i should be doing that. I'm choosing not to do. And that gives you a very rich layered response to different experiences that we have with friends and family and again. It's putting us in the position of being a student being a learner. Instead of being a victim we talk about on the show at that. You really have to develop this ability if to build the neural heart to rewire your brain. So it will think about what you want it to think about and it will shift attention to the things that you want it to think about. And i guess there's a few ways i would suggest doing that. The simplest way which we've talked about many times on the show is when you're let's go to sleep at night. Pick a place excuse to be happy place. It can't be placed trag memories or bad memories but childhood home could be a favorite amusement park or cottage or camp or something and start to train your brain every night to wander through that place. Look down at your feet. It really helps. When you're imagining to actually see your feet or see your hands Open the front door to wherever you're going. See your feet walking down the hall and then start looking in the drawers and opening cabinets and walk into different rooms and remember what little knickknacks were on the table in the mantelpiece. And open drawers monroe. I remember that Remembering certain things on the wall and it sounds so benign. But what you're doing is you're getting your brain to practice doing what you want to do. And you're also practicing machination which you can speak talk about imagination all the time and in the beginning you won't get very far you'll start thinking about something else and then not no. I'm supposed to be back in my grandparents home and right. I was looking through the the little toy box. My grandmother used to have go back there and first of all. You'll be amazed at how much you remember. that's incredible. It's kind of a neat thing. The brain likes to collect patterns in likes to collect. Similar thoughts is a very familiar pattern for the brain anyway. But you're giving it something concrete to think about So great fall asleep first of all but the real reason i suggest this to my clients is. It's really practicing thinking about the things that you want to think about and as you do. This doesn't take very long. Takes about a month of doing it. Just about every night you'll fall asleep faster and be you will find it gets easier and easier and you will be able to focus with much more precision. You'll be able to bring your brain back very quickly to what you were doing. It won't scatter as quickly and you'll be able to use that hardwiring during the day when you want to switch from thinking about something negative to thinking about something neutral or something positive. Questioned solutions thoughts suggestions. Whatever you want. Connect with us. And you can do it at add at make light media dot com ed. Make at make light. Ma hd one word media dot com edit make light media dot com. Send it in will read it on the show and will answer you. And when i say we i mean jennifer. Now i want to bring in our guests. And i'm very lucky to have them. These are two very good friends. They're just wonderful. People extremely talented great careers from sex in the city to the osbournes to top chef to being the current co host of a terrific podcast call culture pop with steve mason sue kalinski and along with sue a great comedian. A great actress shows like pretty little liars modern family. I'm dying here mad men and the tonight show many many times including the classic tonight show with johnny carson as well and that's kathy lagman so suk linski and kathy lagman. Let's join our conversation about movies and mental health already in progress. Like i'm saying like i'm broadcasting at somebody but it really is just that it's it's like it's a yeah it's like all of a sudden it's wore the world but now really that i'm in chicago so now i wanted to talk to you guys about you know. I thought we could talk a little bit about movies and mental health. Because movies saved my life. I know that. I'm sure that they i not played a big role in your life. I wouldn't be alive I really wouldn't be 'cause. I thought i was a bad person. And the only place that could escape was the movie so anytime i had a feeling of any kind. I would go to the movies. When i was old enough to on my own as a baby i crawled to the movies but it was. It was a little different. But but anyway i you so tell me like like my grandfather used to say you know an immigrant from russia. He would call it the movement pictures and you say the moving pictures but when you think about it it's moving pictures was supposed to be an. It's moving pictures and that when you have an experience of a movie you get moved you. It's a moving experience right at that. Well i'll tell you an early memory that i have gone the movies when i was old enough to go along with a friend we would walk down to grew up. In little neck queens. And we'd walk down to the little next theater on northern boulevard. And i would never do this as as an adult but i can't. I can't believe i did this as a kid. We just show up whenever whenever we felt like. It didn't matter when the movie started. Let's say let's say it was cat blue. That was one of the movies we saw. We showed up. We sat down. We were watching. What was the movie that we stayed for the next showing and when we started to recognize stuff on the screen. We said okay. Let's go i mean. I never imagined doing that again to not go at the beginning of the story but it didn't matter that's how much i loved movies. It didn't even matter like that. I wasn't it wasn't starting at the beginning. I've just loved the movies. I love being dark theater. I've loved the hugeness of it. The color of it was just. It was just magical today yet. Because i mean when i was growing up way. Hang on hang on to. I don't want to stop you. But i but there's like some sound outs video. He's an airplane. I'm okay. That's all right Well you don't have to be not flying the plane caffeine you i an. Mvp you in a cessna. Right now on n god knows and lethargy cab snooping with you if you see amelia earhart. Would you tell her to just give it. Just let somebody know. Because let's let's let's let us know. Okay let us know wise everything secret with you anyway anyway. So so yeah. It's the experience you were going to say. So go ahead. Yeah like there was a there. Were a couple of summers on the youngest of five so it was my sister and i and then my three brothers older brothers. They went to sleep away camp. So during those summers my parents took us to so many movies. And what i was about to say. 'cause cathy you said something about the color you know. We grew up where it was black and white black and white. Tv until it became color so to go to the movie theater and see it in color was like insanely amazing. It was like you know while eight acid years later. So i can't really give that knowledge six but but i remember the movie. You don't get your desserts. I'm sorry with uber. Sets right googlers assets theater in my neighborhood just had like like standard screens but the sioe set movie theater in long island. New york theatre had a much bigger screen. I remember that what was it like incense around. Or whatever they called it or cinerama cinerama cinerama and we saw you know The sound of music on how the west was one. Aw sell West side story so we got to see all these big movies on the big screen. You know with amazing audio and that was you know the beginning of me my to going to movies. Hello kathy did you did something happen. I stopped here as something we. What happened cath. i just stopped hearing you. Oh do you hear her now. I do here now. Okay okay. i'm sorry. I apologize for something that i'm i have no control over that. That was a miracle worker. That's a whole different show kathy movies. Now we'll talk about that. I would go ahead keep going. You know so. So that was Saying that that was my introduction to To going to movies you know. And i probably like six six six seven eight and then the following year i went to summer camp. But but those three summers were just magical. won't share anything. You know it's just my sister and i. My brothers were gone so it was only two kids in the house and you know we. We very spoiled though summers and it wasn't mix pure experience as was going to the drive in no. Yes we go in our pajamas we would we would be in the upper djaama's in the back seat and sometimes when we drive from my grandmother's house we could see the drive in on the way home and we would try to guess what the movie was. Funny that's true. But i got to buy snacks at the movies. My father was very cheap and we bring our own snacks to the movies. Oh so and so. Now you goals did you bring bugles bags of peanuts in sh- in shambles that kind of thing where can't more. Oh yeah that's okay. Did you ever go on the roof on the roof of the car like when we go in the summers we used to sleep on the roof of a station wagon all my god. No never did that. That sounds dangerous. While my father was evil knievel o family was the daredevil and he was like yeah. I know you can sit in the car but get on the roof. And i'm gonna go hundred miles. An hour see see movies. Play like vacation mother on the roof with the mother on the road. Go right through now so so you know. The movies thing about movies is of course. It's it's like help. There's like there's it's either an ice cream truck or it's clarence from though the it's a wonderful life. It sounds like a like at a an amusement park. Sounds like a carousel or something. It's a carousel taunting. It's like wind chime. And it's i'm gonna close the windows you know. This is something that if you're listening what happens on the show quite a bit as we have a fully guy and the fully man comes in and i will just i will just text castle show and i'll say can you just give me. Can you just give me wind chimes from nineteen fifty four. I just wanted to go through if there were movies for different emotions. If there were mental health movie festival and it was it was a classic movies. And you have ben mankiewicz. Coming on and ben would be saying tonight. We're looking movies for godfather to is my favorite movie and it's such a good movie that of course it's one of those that no matter. What an feet you feel like you're taking care of you feel like you're gonna be fine and whatever crap you're dealing with it can go away because you get into the movie immediately. It brings you in no matter where you come in. But i went to. I used to skip school almost every day in high and now go to downtown boston. Because that's where. I felt like the most comfortable and i would sit in this theater and old theater the saxon in boston and one day it which usually like me and one other person like nobody wants who goes to the movies at eleven in the morning on a on wednesday alcohol and alcohol. That was my crowd. And so. And so here. I am in the theater. There's nobody in the theater and all of a sudden comes up and he's a flasher. He's worried he's wearing a stereotypical trenchcoat is nothing on underneath. And he comes up beside me and he opens his coat. How old. I was like fourteen thirteen. Okay i'm sorry. I have to interject because she said that you went to the movies almost every day during the school year. yes at. what point after seeing this flasher. Did you continue going to the movies and works flasher now. We got our headlights on. I was a flasher and so but but really what happened is the. I'm watching godfather to on the big screen and the movie was so good that i paid absolutely no attention to the guy on my god. That must have been so disappointing for him going away. He went away. Couldn't compete he couldn't. You cannot compete with the godfather to so what he did was he. Put on eight by ten marlon brando on his penis and the next day flag. Then he got some attention he did. He had a picture of al pacino sitting in chino. I'm marlon brando. Every may pull me out anyway. So that's just like an example. I mean there's so many examples of like movies but for you when you're if you have depression if you're sad if you're down. Is there a goto movie. Is there something that sort of like. I know that this'll take care of me. And here's why well i have. I have many and this was a situation that happened when i was with kathy. I don't think it was like two years ago. I was going through a very very difficult time. I had like like just like high anxiety. Like really bad and i was doing. There was in the beginning of when i was doing my podcast with steve and the homework to go. See this movie dumbo. Right kathy nine at what is it. Where was it that the Moses mosaic the westside pavilion billion. So it was all these small theaters and the movie starts playing. And now look i was feeling really really shitty to begin with but as the movie we may be fifteen minutes in and i'm like squirming in my seat end. I am like kathy have to leave. I think i'm having a nervous breakdown of cannot stay here. Remembers is very well. Yes we leave and Unlike crying i mean it was horrible. And i couldn't even drive my car tom. Her husband had to come and get Had a drive my car and then anyway we get back to her house and we watch Defending your life and that made everything. Okay it's such. You used defending your life to chase the stink of yeah and and and and my anxiety which was just so overbearing now. What was it Was it anything about the movie or was just something that you are experiencing at the time like what. Where did they come from. Well i had a podcast. The next day and i felt like i don't think i can do it. 'cause mentally i just don't think i can. And then when i was watching the movie it was so depressing. Oh god just dark and film just the way it was filmed to it was just. It was very dark like little theatre A tiny theater when it was not like a didn't make you feel like you weren't a movie theater made you feel like you in a strangers. Dan yes like being held captive. Yes like we was kidnapped and and it was. Just the movie was just so disturbing. And it just heightened how how anxious i was and then i thought you know. Oh i don't know. I don't even know if i can do this podcast anymore. So all i'm thinking about while i'm watching. This horrible movie is just the my state of mind. And am i and i had felt this way like maybe three years before and i felt like oh no i'm going down this rabbit hole again and you know here. I have this great opportunity to be doing this. Podcast which is something. I really wanted to do and i felt like. I don't think i'm going to be capable of doing it. And i had to cancel but i couldn't even i couldn't even call the like the people to cancel it added Call a friend. Who was looking at the time. And she called steve. And and i i think it was just it was a it was a combination but the movie did not help. The movie didn't help. Dumbo digs a grave. He's he's Any can never never forget. Grave was nothing but the funny thing is you go you go well first of all those feelings those things that come into your head. They're all it's all like about stuff in the future and it's all the worst. The picture is i kid. There's no way i can do it. It's going to be awful. It's happening later amount. I've got the pressure of that ryan so we can get are. You can get yourself into a state where you literally or paralyze you can. You can paralyze yourself with these thoughts but we never learned that. Oh it might have something to do with what i'm thinking like. Nobody nobody ever said to us or trained us and said wait a minute. This feels like crap. What am i thinking about and you go back and it's like oh i'm telling myself i'm never be able to do this just compounds it but the feeling is coming from you usually coming from what you're thinking but we don't have associated with that we don't ever. I wonder where this is coming from. It's coming from inside the house races. Have you checked on a chase. Gorge coming from the temple. Which is my body. And i think what really freaked me out to was the fact that i had been there years prior and it was the worst i had ever felt in my life and now that it was coming back i it scared me it really you just. You're you're imagining that it was gonna be the same thing you project going to be the same thing right. Yeah right and that. And now you chase it with you chase. The those feelings with a movie called defending your life which is the best. And it's all about facing fear yes an accepting fear so then you can move through. Do you have a moment from that movie. Is there some his there a moment that you remember or some scene in particular are so many good ones and rip torn you know. He ends up getting The larry sanders show because the man be right. I mean to me one of the funniest moments that really you know that that that really softened the blow for me was when you know meryl streep's has just like so perfect and his life is just the polar opposite and then of course you know when buck henry you know we and and fills in and in was dino. What was her name off. Now it was you know Oh jeez i can't believe it's League ram lebron grant. You know is so perfect at her job. And then buck henry set. They said are wealthy. Do you wanna have like a rebuttal to this. And he said no no comment and alvin like looks at it. You kidding me. Nothing good good. I'm fine. I knew you would big. He's fine you know that quotes from that. We have so many quotes in that movie that we often repeat in our daily lives and the other day i was feeding my dog chappie. I give him some sweet potatoes in his food and the wrap aluminum foil and i talked to him. While i'm doing it. I go to say i'm going to wrap it up. Can wrap it up. Wrap it up. And that i love. I love when ripped tour when when Rip torn says the two when albert brooks is going on and on and on about something and making comp- nick making a his case worse and worse and worse at one point he just says still. Don't get the big brain bit but for me. I mean any anything. That albert brooks is ever done will completely take me out of my head. And if i'm feeling down anything i mean you know loss in america you know i mean he run romance i mean he. He plays those pathetic loser characters to such perfection that you can only feel better about yourself and he and the other thing is he can actually hold the screen and not say anything. You can watch him walking down a hallway and it's actually not only is funny. It's somehow interesting he he's really he's really in any he can really act. I mean that's the other thing about these incredibly funny but he can really act off. I'm sorry go ahead. No go go ahead in modern romance. When he's doing the you know the foley in the in the in the film and and he replaces the george. Kennedy's running down the hallway different sands and he and he's you know he says to these two union guys he goes. What do you think. And he goes and joie guy says. I think you saved the picture running. Do you have how running. L. and pd. Listen we're go next weekend. I'm going to be like the price is right now. But i'm going to be like the prices. Right allen i am i love. She knows me i are. We were just what china loves. My daughter loves real life which is like twenty years out of its time. Yes general We only they're all. This is the adn our three thousand own. Wherever made four of them ever worked. We have you know they're on if he's he's going to the institute for human behavior in boulder colorado. If i were if i had gone to school for medicine or had been graded more fairly decent. Quotable we're getting more fairly Cadence cadence is so brutal. Yeah yeah there's nobody there's nobody better but of course we're talking here with kathy lavaman kalinski about where france talking about movies and emotion and memorable things and how movies are almost they really become therapy for you and it becomes a nice bridge because if you don't have these things it's just an assault and it can be very difficult but sometimes the movies can actually be very therapeutic and often are and then it and then you remember these lines like over and over again. The one of the movies that i loved to watch when i'm depressed is the sunshine. Boys still brilliant. Brilliant i mean water. Matha whom i believe was forty nine when he did them or i have to check but i think i remember hearing that. He was forty nine he went. One of my favorite things is when he's sitting in his apartment in an sony Hotel now was like on seventy third street or something and He here's the a like the sound of a tea kettle whistling on on He has a son of a tea kettle whistling in the kitchen. And he answers the phone and he says hello. Hello and then he realizes what it is. He goes never. He says it into the phone he goes never mind. It's the tea and and tells them mind. Never mind ben uncle willie. It's been is that you can get the kid to come up and jiggle the handle. It's my mother. My mother loved that movie. How come close close sir. Yeah yeah yeah. It's a great for people listening. It's like what we're talking about is movies that we kind of grew up with or had you know young adults watching these movies and you have your own movies from your generation. Whatever that whatever that is but one thing about i think about. Maybe it's maybe it's different. I'm not sure is that we watched movies. That came before us and it was kind of part of your part of your thing like it has to be the movie that just came out last week. Well you know why is because when we grew up we were watching. Tv in a lot of what was on tv was older movies writing. We handed. We had the you know the four thirty movie in the afternoon. The abc movie we had million dollar movie. We had late night movie and they were all older movies right movies showing right like i remember. My dad didn't really travel much for work but he happened to be away for a couple of days. And i was just lying in bed. My parents bed with my mom. And the late late show came on and it was Marjorie morningstar m. My mother was so excited she was like you have to stay up and watch this with me. This is one of the greatest movies and and You know whenever i see that movie i mean it's just so nostalgic and i ended up going to summer camp sleep away camp for many many years. Which was the magic for the film. And the camp that i went to was on the same lake that they filmed the movie so that was pretty cool and and the experience of watching it with your mom. Oh yeah the and seeing her excited. This is a thing for her. This has meaning for her. That's the that's the thing is like sometimes apparent like my friend. Jimmy my best friend. Jimmy lane live down. The street and his father loved the movie the hustler. All newman and i would sleep over. Jimmy's house every other friday night. Sleep over my house and this guy. Mr lanny was such a sweet guy. We we might have been like eight or nine. He wakes us up in the middle of the night. He's like it's like eleven thirty twelve o'clock he says you guys got to see the hustler and i wear nine and this movie is one of the most depressing movies that's ever been made. It's also a great movie. But but he pulls us out in these like look at the way. That can eat beautiful. This is always talking to us. And then he falls asleep in a rocking chair. And we're staying up watching piper. Laurie and paul newman in a bus station. And we're heading when you were a kid. You're staying things that like today you. You wouldn't like it's not. You're not supposed to see it. But in those days they had no rating or no awareness of like. Maybe this kid shouldn't be seeing clute. He's fourteen. Oh yeah oh yeah not. Only they have to watch it. You have to have a cigar. And and some scotch. And i'm not kidding about stuff like that because when i was growing up my parents they and all of their friends were like there. Were just a bunch of lunatics. They were very very funny They love to drink. They all smoke. They smoke cigars cigarettes and there were times where i was elementary school and i remember you know one of their friends saying take a puff. Take a puff of. Let's see if if you know how to do it if you know how to. They would do stuff like where they give. You are mellberg. You know drinking a little whiskey like had to two acre something. They'd give me a little whiskey. You know so you know hence i. I smoked pot when i was in sixth grade going into seventh grade. We have a term for those people today and they blurred nobody. I mean but but so many other people did that and never really thought that it was that big of a deal. I mean they thought it was cute and they thought it was cute. That's the thing they were trying. They were trying to be cute. They were trying to be cute and the culture. Was that way you know everybody was smoking. Everybody was on every guest on the tonight. Show in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and says including johnny smoking. Yeah smoking summer on prior. They're smoking. I mean i. I don't think there's you know there was a period in my life where there's not one picture of my parents where they didn't have cigarettes in their mouth in their hand. My oldest brother. He's eleven years old dominion. I was like a baby. You know when he was permits end. There's a picture there's a. There's a picture of them walking in with my brother and on the outside hands. My father has a cigarette. My mother has a cigarette. And then they're holding hands with my brother with the other hand but a both have cigarettes in their walking him in to light the candle home they waves couldn't wait to try. It's like what are we in north carolina. What's going on. What are we took the tobacco road and they smart and then they smoked everywhere. They smoked in their bedroom. They smoked in the car. They smoked in the car with the windows up before the only thing that was streaming in those days was smoke and pain. And that's what we're streaming in our culture smoke in pain Well you know so but all these memories are very you know they're very evocative and my family would They would you know they do commentary. You know if you'd be watching like you know you'd be would not it's a wonderful life in those it but like peyton place or some other show. They all had comments so my mother would be like you know she's supposed to be wonderful. She's philanthropist. I was reading about and you know. She's she's wonderful you know. And they've been married a long time and it was like it was like and this is what you say you had the league this little soundtrack and then we had this habit in my family of when we would all go. We didn't go out together that much but when we would we go to a movie. It was like the saddest movie like. We went to see ordinary people as a family. Oh god calvin word on such a great movie though. i mean. that's a movie that i like to watch when i when i wanna cry. Ooh yeah. it's good for therapy right. That's a movie. That would a good cry at the end at the end when when donald sutherland's voice breaks when he says i love you too. That always gets me. Wow wow and dinah dynamite off you know yes sure. We're going to get together. It's going to be great for christmas for headed for death. Putting a and then you know and the casting was just so brilliant. I mean mary. Tyler moore playing this cold hearted you know woman. I mean it was just like whoever would expected her to be in a role like that and she was. She's schilling. i mean it when she she gives she. Has that speech with donald sutherland. Was she just read him. The riot act he. He just like cowards. Like oh my god. It was just so painful so i remember did a great job when she when when she when she's in the kitchen with her mother and you hear this this play drop and and she was holding it together. She says it's a clean break and it's such a great metaphor for what's going on in the family because everybody is holding on so tightly and they need to break everybody's holding on so tightly at the these moments stay with you you remember them. They're black and sometimes they they help you sometimes. Sometimes they actually aid you. Like i mean i think the moment from to kill a mockingbird. I'll never forget this line in my whole life. standup honey. Your father's passan. oh yes. The balcony stands up because he hit stood up for what was right right passes under they make scout stand up. They make his daughter stand up. Great stand up honey your father's passing and they just let it sit. They let that moment sit there. And i was like and i've said that to people in my life but they don't know what i'm talking about. There's no belka ni. I met an ice cream store and people don't know what i'm talking about but i keep the line with me for great occasions. Show now now. I have to say so. So if there's if there's a moment for you if there's a time capsule moment or there's something let me put it this way if you're if you're really if you really wanna laugh you you mentioned the sunshine boys kathy. What what do you i mean. We're all comics. Is there a movie or a moment or a thing. That's like the fire thing for you. That's like this is really. I know that this will make me laugh on a midnight. Run makes me laugh. Oh also king of comedy with his cardboard cutouts and and and his mother's yelling dancing. He's going he's i. He's interviewing his guests. Ma he's a grown man and he's living in his mother's basement. It's it's just saw. It's just hilarious. It will send bernhardt course. Great in that i met her after she had filmed before it came out. That's when i started at catcher rising store. I was at the In the belly room at the comedy store when she auditioned for deniro and martin scorsese how that was unbelievable. So i guess for me. It would be night of the opera. The state room scene. I mean that to me never disappoints. I mean i laugh hysterically. Every time i see it and i guess i mean there's so many but Annie hall the split. Sarin jewish and gentile family s sure. 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Favorite Moments from Ellen On The Go!

Ellen on the Go

44:16 min | 1 year ago

Favorite Moments from Ellen On The Go!

"Hi It's Ellen Degeneres welcomed with my podcast. We're GONNA listen to some of the best moments from the show. Oh and it's GonNa be hosted by four executive producers that I love happy listening. Welcome to Ferry Special Episode of Ellen on the go today. We're going to look back and play for you are esteemed podcast listeners. Yes whereas Andy likes to call them the potties magic eight. Have you need some of our favorite moments from the podcast and the season of Ellen. Todate Jake Gyllenhaal. That was a funny story with Jake. gyllenhaal Adam Levine L.. Yes basically Mary what now I think. Well well yeah is friends with intrical to the story. Yellen is great friends. With Adam Levine and adores Jake Jalen Hall and we'll some. I don't even know how it came. came up but but Adamant I were texting and I don't I I don't even remember I said I said have you seen my special yet. Because he said something that sounded like he he didn't and I and he says months after it's been released. Yeah every Friday. I would have seen it by now a good friend any any true friend uh-huh so in any true fan. Listening would have seen my special relatable on Netflix by now available streaming now wherever you seeming now so so he said No. I'm so Embarrassed because Jay Jalen Hall told me how much he loved it and I was so scared when you were over here the other night you were going to bring it up and you know it's like if you that scared why you know anyway. I didn't know the backstory of this. And so he is. I'm GONNA watch tonight. I'm going to watch it right now. So Jalen Hall on the show the other day and he told me that he he emailed atom. Because he didn't have my information told. Tell me how much he loved my special incident. Minor friends with them. How much blew me away away? So so Adam odd said. I can't give her this because I haven't seen it yet so trouble instead of him looking at it right right and this was a while ago. He's still hadn't watched it up until recently til guilty him into it and then inject texted me the copy of the email l.. He sent. Yeah and then what happened. What happened when Adam finally decided to watch it? So Adam he said I'm GonNa Watch it tonight Titan so I I went to bed because it was eight. Thirty and so Literally not even dark so I wake up in the morning and he had started texting like Oh my God this is so good. Oh my and and all through it like I can't believe how revealing this is and you know this and and it goes on and on and on and I'm clearly not responding because I'm asleep and then he ends it with good talk. I texted. I said I went to sleep. But he is so then he finally saw it and he liked got it and But Yeah Jake Jake sends him that and instead of him going on better watch it because now I have to pass this on. He just holds onto. That email. Doesn't say doesn't isn't send it to me or tell me about it and still doesn't watch my special Adam. Levine is not a true friend no but what is fun though is knowing wing. How Much Adam Levine fears you? Yeah that is true. That's a fun thing that he did not this special. Here's more of Jake and Ellen how are you. It's been a long time since you've been here. I know but I watch you almost all the time I do I do. I saw your show relatable. Oh the stand standard special. Thank you so so good. Thank you very much inside watching. It was late at night and and I should be going. I should be going to sleep and I couldn't. I watch the entire thing. In fact I wrote an email. We have mutual friend. Yes I know. That Adam Levine and so I wrote him and I said Hey can I write a note to Alan and you can send it to her and he sure yeah. Of course I loved her show by wrote you a note I say I love show and then he will be back and he was like. I can't send this. I haven't seen her show yet. Did you get it. How long ago did you send that to him? Like two months ago or something all right so he somehow came up and I said have you even seen my stand and especially that and he goes no one. I thought when you were over the other night I felt so bad that you were going to bring it up and everything and Jake Jilin how loves it and I didn't know you royal. JGL was talking about how great it is as it. I can't believe you haven't watched my special. You know you're my friend he goes. I will. I'm going to graduate right now. And so I went to bed and I woke up to a million taxed like like. Oh my God this is so great. Oh my God this on and on and on and then at the end because I'm not responding I'm sleeping. Says Good Talk. But anyway he'd they pass it on even though he saw it now and also your comedians in cars coffee getting cart cars getting coffee. Somebody getting coffee show. Yes so oh good thanks so good you watch me when you're not around weirdly like it. Well I shouldn't. You shouldn't give me your email yes you should. I'll we'll give you my number. You can text me directly because I like to you but really today this this. WE'RE GONNA kick off talking about Mary Connolly things. We're talking about Mary. Connolly up we're GONNA talk about David Letterman. Sure and and Mary Conner. Only for those. Who Don't know came up on the David Letterman show started as the receptionist worked her way up to producer produced all the celebrity guests for Dave but also developed a relationship with Dave where she was kind of one of the favorites and he'd play baseball spoil with her in the office? He put on this show where she would throw. Footballs with actual. NFL quarterback because she knew how to throw a football and things came full circle for you the week with Dave. And why don't you tell everyone. Well it's true. I started out as a patron NBC. And then got hired to work on late night with David. Letterman stayed through into the transition to late show with David Letterman. CBS and I had a great friendship with Dave. We had uh we had a lot of fun together and I would brief him on segments. I was a segment producer. There and I would brief him on segments. And while I would do that we would either toss a football or the baseball when I left the show it was a it was a tough. It was tough split bitter saying I'm sure it was bittersweet because I just said that I was leaving. I didn't give the show. Oh a chance to Make me an offer to get me to stay. I you made up your mind to move to California And that That hurt Dave's feelings And understandable understand now seventeen years later David. Letterman appears on The Ellen show and all that just washed away and his fondness for you was really really fun to to see and be around it. It was it was very obvious how much she loved you. So sweet well he even will play. Play the clip. This I quit will be. This is going to be Dave telling the story about Dave when Mary having a cash with a baseball sixth floor of thirty rock the fourteenth four only eight stories higher teams floor and in a baseball going through the window. So let's start with that. Take a listen to that Rebecca David Letterman and. I am fortunate enough when I started this show sixteen years ago. We had A Great Group of Executive Producers One of which is Mary who was a producer on your show for years but to say eight. Mary was a producer on the show for years. How many years ten years I was at the show woolley macro ten years but more than producer? Mary was a dear dear. A friend and I can remember being. Ill behaved when she came to me with the news that she was leaving because I I was I was hurt. My feeling really really hurt. I was so fond of this woman. And look at it for God's sake talking to not be the every day look at the two of you there only God. It looks looks like the police of broken in the Mary knows the story and honest to God it was the worst day of my television life. And maybe the were stay of my life. You're on the ground floor here more or less right so on this particular day marian a throwing baseballs hard bulls gloves throwing the ball and Mary can bring it. There is no question about that and and we're trying to get that just that perfect whack you get when the ball hits. The pocket and Mary was on one corner. I was on the other corner and one got away from me and it went up and over and through. The window of the fourteenth floor of the thirty rock building and down below was sixth avenue and the sidewalk. Well you know how many are dead. And I'm I'm stunned and so I go over to where the window is and I'm just kind of hiding and looking down there and there wasn't really any commotion to Speed Up. People were looking at people were looking because shards of glass at rain down on on the Avenue of Americas and I see a guy down there and I can hear him say hey dave letterman the spending the rest of my life in prison. It's a miracle no one got hurt. Good point many people don't know so in a situation like that what do you do what do you do. What do you do in a situation like that you tell me about you know what you do in a situation like that I would just back up slowly from the window? No no no you send an intern down. That's what you do. We have to go to break. You took lots of chances because one of my appearances on your show. I hit a golf ball from one building building people hitting golf balls which also could have gone badly but we were doing it but that would have been on you. I I WANNA be mentioned that right after that we had the windows covered with. It's called LEXCEN. Glass the stuff you see at hockey games saved bulletproof all the windows covered with that smart problem solving. That's right. Most people would just stop playing with the Baseball but oh sure yeah yeah okay. So that was. That was one of the scarier days of my life. Yeah Bet and we had played catch for really really longtime and we were really good at it. Yeah and this just happened and it. It was terrifying. That'd be manslaughter. If he would've get someone you know I don't know AH game over. It's all over. But what are they unintentional homicide. What do they call that in involuntary voluntary? Yeah yeah no that that is horrifying. It was horrifying. And it's also a miracle that thing's falling out of that building didn't hit any yes and in the commercial break. After Dave told that story he he. We went up to home base to to say hi and he was like like what were we thinking like. We're like out of our minds. What were we thinking that we could do that? And we we headed all under control. We thought we knew exactly exactly what we're doing. What did that feel like? After all you went through with Letterman and all you've gone through with Ellen to be sitting on the stage watching the two of them talk and tell a story about you. It was it was it was incredible. It was really special because Ellen is doing is Netflix show and Net flicks wanted me to go win and say hi to Dave and they wanted to tape that and right before that happened. I was excited but also a little nervous and I walked thin and we said hi to each other and he had some footballs. They're waiting for us to throw the way. We used to throw scrape and it was instantly. I was talking to my old friend. He was like what your brother doing. What's going on with like his kids? What like we were just catching up? The way old friends would catch up and and all of the twenty some odd years just melted away and I was just having a conversation with a with an old friend that is law so it was really. It was very special so in the eighties and nineties. He had legions of fans who watched the show every single night and like quoted Ham and Aleinu. Yeah Judy knew the recurring characters. It was like Yeah Fun little clubhouse that you were in if you were if you were too young unlike your parents watched Carson and you watched letterman or at least that was my. That was my experience growing up. You know and if you watch letterman. You knew Mary because Mary was on the show regularly. I mean you were throwing footballs with Phil Simms with boomer and like I remember watching was hall hilarious and I I remember in two thousand one two thousand and two Hillary St McLaughlin with the time was the president of pictures saying to me. You know we've got at this woman and she's consulting on this on the show doing and I want you to. We're we're having this event in New York and I want you to meet her and I said Great. What's her name? She said Mary Connolly and I went Mary Connolly Mary Connolly she goes you know her I go yeah I mean. She doesn't know me but I know her absolutely well. You know everything. That's hilarious carries everything I know about working on a talk show. I learned from Dave yet and I learned from that show. And you know I a lot of talk shows or modeled it. You know the behind the scenes stuff on how segments are presented to the host. How music celebrities? Celebrity driven comedy and Would sorta came from what is created over there so it was. It was particularly special to see the moment of seeing Dave and Ellen up there talking to each other and making each other laugh and really loving on each other. Yeah it was weird sting is that Letterman went off the air before Kevin Leman even was actually born now. It's one of my biggest complaints about Mary. I work for the first five years I worked here. I'm like I just WanNa hear Letterman store. Yeah just tell me and finally we sat next to each other on a flight to Orlando side. Five hours of Letterman stories made me so happy. I'm I'm I'm so proud of my time. There I would be happy to show you letterman stories all the time as a fellow gay hate generalizations and stereotypes but why do all lesbians know how to throw. Footballs unpack that sentiment. I generalizations. Why do all lesbians know how to throw? Footballs here's what I'm going to tell you. I grew up in New York City and I have a brother and a father who are both very into sports and we just learned to play catch because catches a game. You could play in a straight straight line right so we would be out on the sidewalk in front of in front of our brownstone and we would play catch. And so you'd play catch with the ball for as long as you can play catch with the ball and then if you played with the football my father and my brother taught me how to throw a football and their canopies on our on our block on thirty thirty six street between parking legs. And then you could throw Football's or balls over the canopy apartment building to then catch her awning running to catch the ball on the other side and that became so it was just a little. Did you know it was just what you did Ellen. Did his chauffeur net flicks. My next guest needs it's no introduction. Yeah and if you don't have net flicks I'm telling you now get it by May which is when I think our episode. Exactly his his second season of that show Will will be released all at one time in May Be Ellen gave us a sneak peek. And it's like a side of Ellen you've never seen before and truly truly yeah. It was a special night. What about what he did? Yes yes yes. It was so fun to see him play an actual game. That was that was something that we did not expect what happens when he goes. He's sitting up there on the burning questions with all these bells and whistles and there's music and animation they come out of any turns the LA and he goes Salak going going on right and also when he first walked out and sat down. He's like where's Paul little shoutout to Paul Shaffer his bandleader for. Here's here's a clip of Ellen and Dave playing burn questions for every question you answer honestly and I'll be the judge of that our friends at Sheriff I will donate a thousand dollars. Okay I I will answer the question and then you will get that for no apparent reason. who was your first crush girl? Susie frakes how will we. I was in the eighth grade. Have you seen her since no. I've spoken to her since we we have. Yeah but she was. Yeah she You know I I was such a dumb ass. Can you say that that I ruined it. I loved after all the way through high school and Done all right Susan Fridge and grew up to be a teacher. She lives up on Cape Cod and has I think she actually has a son named David. No I'm just saying it. I would think that she's still obviously has feelings for you on David Wiltshire to other kids. I don't know what their names are. The most rebellious thing you did as a teenager. This is so stupid. One day Senior a year My buddies and I took her skateboards and we cut school. The one and only time I. You can't school me. Nobody goes to school anymore anyway. We we left we took off. We got the guy's car and we went up to the highest point in central. Indiana is Where the so the grave of James WHITCOMB RILEY WHO's fought from Indiana and it's the highest point in Crown Hill Cemetery? We took our skateboards up to his grave. And we skateboarded awarded all afternoon down from his grave to through the other graves. The well Of course we were. They'd been we'd the embellish it. Now thank you so much Dave Dave in the show all of us very thing burning questions. If if your child has an okay tech learning experience it might feel more like homework but if they have the best experience doing something they're passionate about it could light a fire on them for the rest of their life if that's the gift ID tech can give them whether they're interested in coding video game development robotics are video production. I detect can guide your child from casual explorer to to college bound pro. Their rock star instructors transform a love of APPS and Video Games like fortnight into a foundation for college internships and dream careers at companies. He's like Google and Disney. You heard me. Kids have a blast exploring their interest and build the stem skills. Employers are so desperate for. 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No everyone loves share but as has a gay man share release something for Kevin. I thought Andy was coming out for a second. That's on the next episode. Doc Oh my gosh. I love her and she told L.. And all about Mama MIA now. She saved a life with Meryl Streep. How long has it been since you did a movie? Before Mama Mia here we go again one hundred years. I don't know I don't know it was burlesque I think and Yeah Yeah I don't usually like. I almost turn everything down. I don't know why so. Why how did you do this? Because the man who used to be my agent who's now head of universal and has a really good friend. He called me me and said this is good for your career. You're doing Mama Mia to any hung up. He didn't wait for your response. I know who that is wrong. Yeah and you just trusted him. You just said yes. I'm GonNa do it well. It was between trust and fear. Those are both good motivators. And it's doing it's amazing like four hundred million or something. It's made a lot of money so aren't you glad you did it. Yeah I'm thrilled yeah. I'm totally thrilled. Thrilled Camaros mother. Yeah let's talk about you in Merrill really love each other and you should. Because you're both fabulous women. Silkwood is like one of my all time favorite movies. But you're fabulous together we are. I mean that's really fun. Let you want to do another movie with her. I'd love to do you have any ideas. No Okay you want to come up with yes okay. I'll I'll come up with an idea and then actually you know we saved a girl's life once the two of us tell me what so she just had made me and we were at her apartment and and she said I want ice cream cake cool. I said but it's kind of a dangerous neighborhood and it's night and she said No. It's like between Chinatown and little Italy. What could could happen? And so who walk in and we haven't got around the corner yet but we hear screaming and we get around the corner wondering is this huge man in sweats and I don't know what over like basketball shorts and he's pulling At this girl she's like shaking the squirrel and so marriage just starts screaming and takes off and I start screaming and take off to and think I'm I'm going to get killed. Life Ramp is GonNa kill me so anyway so we're running and running and the guide turns around and he sees us and he starts running towards awards us and then I thought we're really going to get killed but we both split off in the opposite directions and we got to the girl and he kind of had ripped her clothes close but she kept her purse and that's what he wanted and then we're like trying to fix her all up you know and you know we have nothing. But we're sticking it in their bras. STRAPPER offers shirt thinks she looks at us and she screams and she said Oh my God. I'm a singing waitress. And no one's GonNa believe I got mugged and same story. We talked about at seventy two years. Old How great share look. Oh my gosh. Her is insane her but so insane Ellen Aster about her but and in sixteen years. I'm not sure I've ever seen that happen. Share her. Can I tell people how old you are. Yeah can you believe she's seventy two years old the work out a lot you do every day not every day but a lot of times. Okay I need to ask ask because we were tired here. See me doing a plank with the Harry Smith. No well it was good. He quit before I did. How long can you do a plank for well I I once I did five minutes but I'll never do that again? Wow but I could do it for two two minutes with sweat yet. Michelle Obama Obama wants to challenge because we did pushups and she's now like she said plank is her thing. I think she could do it for five minutes. You should challenge Michelle weight the because we were watching in rehearsal and we were talking about your ass and I need to know what you do. We want to know. So your butt exercises. Well I have a number of them like like okay. Okay so this is sounds so dumb because when I say the first thing I know you're GonNa do something really not. Yes you are. Well try you so you get done. I'll force okay. Okay someone else in the room know well sometimes okay so you get down on all fours and you put your leg up l. with right and the I'm just do it up like that. I know right I know that one fire hydrants. Yes these are like not new thing. Then I've got a Khulumani Times. You do that up in the air. Three sets of twenty five twenty five right and then I have a power played and you. Do you do squats. What's your just do the old fashioned things and I have to confess I do zoom zoom? Oh you do it at home. Yeah I would like to see that. No okay she brings out like the silly side of Ellen Ellen in a way that a lot of guests don't we were saying like her and Michelle Obama. They don't put up with her shenanigans right. They throw it right back on her face and he just loves it it. It's so fun to watch her. As producers servers we always love when. Someone's out there and Challenges Ellen pokes her little well share shares. Very confident in who she is and what she does and she doesn't need to take any any grief from Ellen and she knows literally the opposite of me literally you see share onstage rehearsing or song and you go like my God She has been doing this forever. She is like the consummate professional knows. Exactly what to do has incredible comic timing and just it just brings it so now. Kevin had a brilliant idea that none of us thought would actually happen in which he was overdue for. We have but dr dry bar next to my favorite drinking place. Don Kuko's Lisa Industry Chip Kevin Leong Kuko's and get blow out not worried about you're going to say so. Yeah dry bars just opened and of course share play stylist and Mermaids Ellen has hair so who better better team to go and surprise people there and have them do their blowouts and Ellen and share and I was like there's no way share it's going to go with L. into the dry bar and blow hair covering the reaction to the folks in the drive bar when the door opens and Ellen and share walk into the brand new dry bar into Luca Lake it was awesome is fantastic. Share share instantly. Said yes ellen got early to do it. It was so much fun. We shot it and cut it all on the same day. I think we're putting the whole thing up on ellen tubes you can definitely see the whole thing there if he were sure. I wrote the car with share over there. And Kinda pissed her through some ideas he wanted to do and told her where we had some whigs hidden but and he was a little shaking voice and Kevin never gets nervous. A little shaky shakey celebrities. Still Shaky made me happy. It was fun. And like that's the coolest thing about our job is like Kevin Leman grew up loving share air and now he's producing her in comedy piece so it really is a cool job and it never gets old to me. Mary tell the story of Kevin Leman. I'm so glad you asked Ed so Kevin Kevin Leman came to us out of the NBC page program. He began as really sort of just a young man who was mostly straight or confused with his sexuality is surgery but yeah great. We hired him. I believe as a production assistant assistant and he was a producer's assistant. He did a number if things very quickly he became a writer after submitting some material to Alan how many years before he became a writer too so so meteoric but we were you need in the first few weeks of the show well. He appeared on the very first episode of the Ellen. Degeneres show great because he's an amazing. He's an amazing artist. Full face He became a writer he then became the head writer. And in that you become the head writer so two years in. We're starting our sixteenth season in in season. Three you became a writer and then when did you become the head writer. I think officially seasons seven long story Short Kevin is now an executive producer. Ellen made him yeah okay all right okay. That's pretty much. And he's an EP when I was young and I'm old. But here's what's interesting Ed. How long have we all been together at the Ellen Degeneres Show sixteen years? We've been here since the beginning. Yeah never never. This is really the first time anyone who wanted to hear what we've had to say. I'm not sure if they want to marry. Oh well that's the first time we're at this point we have zero listeners. Left Kev. There was such an amazing moment in that piece. There's such an incredible moment. If you know sixteen years years in it feels like everything has happened but how often does someone call Ellen a word. LYNN LOVES COMES TO TO POKE POKE POKE and push buttons and share put up with it for a while and then just unleashed a little bit on Ellen in a way that made made Ellen Laugh her head off da Scott Star in two zero whereas you know if you could reach a star. You can't really give them to somebody over. There would be hot. Running learning doesn't even make sense right. No her yes. She knows me better than they know you. You know share had been poked by Ellen enough that share are turned around and just said the B Word share called Ellen a bitch in a way that was fantastic whole Larrea. Yeah everyone thoroughly enjoyed it especially ellen yet. Do you guys follow share on twitter. By the way I do. She's you know she is something. The amount emojis she. It's like my kids. Nobody uses emojis more than that woman. And she'll actually sense something meaner than sometimes absolutely nothing so they literally mean it. I always think it's like she fell on her keyboard. That's what it was she and she talked about it with Ellen about how sometimes she does a great job within other times not so great very very active on twitter. I don't know if you follow her. But if you do you'd know she's very active on twitter if you don't follow her you should good and you should follow her. You should follow me if you follow me on twitter. You should follow me on instagram. What are we talking about shares tweets? Yes so so. She's very active. Here's one of her tweets and it's iheart apples hearted it all four XS. I've lived here weakest smell seven so I don't you know what it means but I think he kissed mouth but she just wears her heart on her sleeve like she just she tweets which he feels and if she feels enraged she tweets rage age and she knows it. And she's you know she's she's self-aware she told you know. She tells us that she sometimes has to delete tweet to take them back like she's I duNNo. Now she's just so like real after all this time on on camera and in the business you just got a lover. I also loved that. She was so open about talking about being dyslexic and and how emojis actually helper in terms of her dyslexia but that was interesting they they helper and then sometimes she then with all her emojis it it gets. It's a little discombobulated. We gotta get to this exciting guest today. We have a legit celebrity a real elaborate real live celebrity. Have someone more famous than you. Andy well in certain circles. Now no I'm GONNA say maybe in every circle yeah probably more famous than you Kaelin. Allen has come a star on our show he has. We'd love this guy if you don't know who he is. Should we come out from. I'm under the Rock. You're living under oh and up and up. Kaylynn al-anon Ellen Tube. He is one of the funniest additions to our family in a long time. Now we should probably tell the story of how he found him but maybe we should tell it with him in the room. Yeah sure Kayla bring in Kaelin talent. Here he is now carriers cheerios. Now listen this is this. This is small. You'll never been in this room no I haven't you never know what the good thing thing is when you get older. Oh when you get called in here. It's usually the beginning of the end for next time. You've never been in a meeting in this room. I like peaked in one time. Yeah I do remember that. Sometimes people come into this room and they never leave first of all. It's like a Roach Motel. Okay Kaylynn podcast. Thank you on my show. I wanted Mary at Kevin to be here here because they're big fans of Youtube. So Wow Kaelin we love you. How how did we find you? Tell everyone how we found. You found me on the social media place twitter again. I was talking about some Fu. Yeah right yeah so Kaelin. Salen Kaelin was in Philadelphia Temple University right. He's we're GonNa Temple Shirt right now in Philadelphia on RTP review and he was watching and commenting on food video making people making different kinds of and one went and posting it went viral. It was the first one but one one wasn't. I want some staff that might have been Kara or or someone who works four-car up a reports dicara Saul this all report to conned. It made it to a topical meeting and we can get him to every day on our show show. We start with a topical meeting where everyone gathers and shows us the latest and greatest of Social Media News Stories Video Heavens favorite meeting of the day and usually go. Oh that's a funny video. That's great. Oh we should give that to the writers. Let's go to human interest we universe. This video wasn't on more within ten seconds and we were like we must find the sky immediately led to show Ellen. We showed it to l. in the second she saw. Why isn't he here already? I talk if you WANNA see that video you can go to Ellen tube and it was some sort of some sort of something that was uh uh that was the potato Salik the West but what we did what was on the show. Was the seven uptake yesler uptake. Yes and you lost your mind Mhm How'd you get the idea to do those videos. Honestly there was no thought about it. It just happen you just came to me. It was just like you should make video about this. I put on my phone press record Lord and just uploaded. Were you looking for recipes. or how'd you come across. It was sponsored. Add onto my facebook feed. I was about to go to work and then and I saw it and I was just like okay so then you put you post this people start following it. uh-huh what is your for. How what are you doing where are you when you get a call from the own degeneres show okay? I know exactly where I was in class. Actually in because so much was happening I was like keeping up with my social media so I checked my phone's and blue right and all I I saw was a TV dot com. I remember I grabbed my friend. I said Gras Ellen called and I got up and I left the room and I called back. I was like what what do I need to do. Tell me I will stay up if you need me to call in. I will do whatever you need me to do. Stay up by color and that was the beginning. How true I I was here the next week and then we hired him before he graduated yet not yet graduated? You're going to graduate. That's going to be fine but in the time you also school. Did you graduate. The idea I finished I was coming here during the day but we had L. A. Program. So I finished my last semester here over rally studio so I was going to class at night. uh-huh being And now you're a college graduate just indeed tax it turns out uh-huh what's we love it. It's so much fun having Kaelin here. It's so much fun. Your offices downstairs right. Yes yes okay so but you're often up here on this floor his office on the fourteenth floor and we're here on the eighth floor. Well you know the a good thing as a as a as a person who is sort of manager of of Kayla's maybe you could even say a boss of Kaelin's the way that he spends money on this beautiful wardrobe that he has is a wonderful thing because he always needs more keep working jerry. Jim Paradorn style is so unique. Like you change it up one day. You've got the flare one day you're like today. You're all kind of butch. This is to change it up. I'll tell you I was watching a Bohemian rhapsody for the fourth time. Okay and just the way. He expressed himself in his clothing and was like this is who I am. It made me think of you of how like you. Don't give give a F- like this who I am and you own it and you never don't look unbelievable. This is a question Freddie. Mercury does a lot of credit. This is a question my daughter Sarah would want to ask you. Where do you shop for your clothes? ooh I shop. Actually you know what I shop. A lot found a good a lot of good step at top shop in the women's department. Though interesting interesting the last time I Like suit and it was in women's how has your life changed since coming to the Ellen. Show IT'S A. Yeah that's a great question thank you. I don't even know how can put into words honestly it is honestly I feel like I live in a dream like state every single day. Every single day It was funny. Because you know Brad Cooper was on the show and he was talking about the grammy's and he was like how he laughed about win win. Expect to my grandma death me like when people bring up like the stuff that I've done here at the show I'm like Oh yeah. I guess I did do that. Didn't cause it's all happening so fast. That is yeah I I don't I don't get to like suck it in anytime but is absolutely amazing. I think it's always perfect to in really a great thing if you have someone like yourself. WHO's really happy? And what they're doing right now and I don't I second ever believe that that means will then you're stagnant minter. You'll just stay where you are. That's just not at all how it works. You're really happy with what you're doing now. And that means it will only grow and expand. What's he was saying? When you say would you say being on our podcast for the first time is as exciting as the first time you did the show? I absolutely absalom doesn't listen so I agree using followers. Do you remember Kaelin. Do you remember where you were when you learned learned that you were going to be on the podcast. I do this last week in the hallway. Like Oh yeah. This is a call. Everyone you knew to tell them. You're doing the best idea because the only see y'all in passing. I spent some time. 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George Lopez's Worst First Almost Plane Crash

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George Lopez's Worst First Almost Plane Crash

"I host was that good for you. Podcast, everything sex relationships giving relationship advice on New Year's and after working at playboy year and a half, I learned even more sexuality space than I ever thought they'll be a guest on every episode of a fresh perspective on our topics and a word of the day you. You daddy issues to kings two periods sex. We're going to cover and uncover. The podcast world is growing bigger every day and Himalayan wants to help you navigate it. Himalayas is a brand new podcast app where you can find every single podcast, you love and some future faves, whether you're a podcast or, or fan Himalayas has got your back. Discover personally, curated playlists and show, your favorite podcasters. Some love with the Himalayas tip jar. It's free. It's the easiest to use, and we're adding cool new features every day. Go to your app store download Himalayas. That's H. M. A. L. A. A and don't forget to follow worse. I want their love. Britney. And so excited, I notice I say that on a lot of episodes, but I am really excited today, because first of all this man's like a legend you all know who he is. He's been around four literally ever, he was just telling me this is his fortieth year of doing stand up. He's had shows. He's specialties done everything guys. It's George Lopez. Hey, welcome do I am Campbell forty years of doing stand up? What the hell I'm having a panic attack just thinking about that. There was an back then it was back then. New age things like valium 's that my grandmother, had take them and sell them at school for, I think I might have sold them to low like a quarter the, the worst drug dealer. That's all I all my clients money, those kids got hooked up there. Go, so. Yeah. Forty years, I was still in high school. I was getting ready to graduate from San Fernando high God. Yeah. Born and bred out here. Yeah. So like you went to school out here. You grew up out here. What made you go? I'm gonna I'm sure you've done this interview downsize. But what made you say for my listeners what, what made you get into stand up? I'm just curious interesting back, then, you know, because, you know, on the was not any I don't even think there was CDs cassettes maybe just started. Only TV and album. So imagine that you had a Richard prior Cheech and Chong album in your friends on Friday night. We'd go to this guy's arts apartment. In van Nuys. He turned the record player on and we'd soon couches any just listen and laugh forward listening. That's so the record over, and it was over put it over, and you just sit around and use your imagination to imagine what somebody was was thinking or was what was saying. So, you know, my friend of mine had a went to he went to Kennedy high school. And there was a kid at Kennedy high school. Don Nielsen shut down Neal shot. Nielsen wherever you are. He was a kid and he was going to the comedy store in Westwood and he was doing standup. And my buddy said, hey, that guy's going over there. Let's go over there and check it out. We went to check that out one night. And I saw some people that night that ended up being friends with no anymore. Yaacov Smirnov was there. I think John FOX was there and this, not the comedy stores, not there anymore. Westwood right right by all there was an all American burger all of the all American burgers, became port. And so, yeah, we went over there and forty gees. And then you just new start doing open mics or what did you do it, open, my ex just like I am. I did awful. What do you remember what you talked about where you like? Hey guys. I'm george. Yeah. I think I was speaking so fast with no brakes, that finally when I took a breath, everybody started laughing because when I was gonna do gonna talk taking a breath, and they laughed and I was looking around, like I, I didn't couldn't figure out what they're laughing second time I did a little bit better. Took a couple of weeks off to retool, whatever I had and the third time the guy this guy, Joey gainer said you're up next. It was like nine ten and the place was full. I go you're up next. I said, oh man, I am scary because we need to win earlier. You win late nights was perfect. So I went up there, and they were incredible. And it was the first time that I've ever remembered ever, getting like that kind of response from anything even if I fell, you know, in school or tripped on something I mean, people out there that hard so is one of those things where that was the infusion of like. That thing that we all need that says, like good. Yeah. That was like, oh my God. And then becomes like a drug these laughs more laughs like. You mean it's so crazy. I mean couple times that I've done at the time that I did do. Well, this is great. I love it. You know, then the times that you do shady. I'm like, all right. Well can you never wanna do it again? I know it's not for you know, there'd be some girls, they would do this guys that would do. Yeah. Disappear. Like, like, you know, I guess it would be like if you were you don't wanna compare anything to, to battle. But if you know if you were. Or go to the do this was on the bus with us. Where did he go? Did you? Did you just start out with like ten, and then there's two and then you go to another club in and now you're back to ten and now there's five and then you go to another club and then his his unit another guy and then they just got disappeared. Like there was a guy that. There was a guy that always wore tuxedo like his Acuras like I'm gonna talk like JAMES BOND, and I went to the movie theater, and I said, they do, what do you, do you still do because he was in his tux said that you come from show, and he's like. Amino sure. Here. And Westwood by the cemetery. That was a atco and he was he was he was the usher, same. Same talks. Only has a flashlight to follow your to your seat. He sat a stand up and just make use of the suit and. All my, you know, what's so funny. I actually knew another comedian like that, who used to wear a suit all the time, and then he stopped. Yeah, it's really true, though. It's like you know, even the people that I've started with that were like, not funny. I remember they were not funny and now they're like, really funny. If you stick it out, even some people like finding voice and getting shows doing all the stuff and getting deals. It's great anyway. You ended up becoming very successful congratulations to these applause. So, you know, the premise of the podcast, I told you ahead of time. It's about the worst experience like a worst date or anything you want. So I'm gonna let you go ahead and drive, and tell me you're worse. So before I was married, I when my chauffeur started, I'd never bought a house on my own. So I we found a house in to Luca lake and it was where the Olsen twins had lived in that house before. So when we. Got when we got the house, we saw it and we liked it. But it needed a new roof, everything was really low. Ever ever. Cabinets for little people. In the closet. I hate her. Got it dude everywhere. You're like what is this? It dude. So, so they gave me a check for twenty five thousand dollars. But I did you know, I didn't know that was where I cashed it about a Sony, viol- computer and I bought a couple of and that was the money that I was supposed to give the contractor, they had found a contractor TD the house to do the house, but I so I had to put back the money to equal to twenty five thousand so I, I'd never been never had my house done. So they're doing the rotunda. It was about one hundred fifteen degrees. One of those days where everybody's how, how does it? So we were in the writing room on my show. My show adjust started it was in the summer, and I was sitting there in the guy goes one hundred fifteen today, I since one hundred fifteen I start I start thinking about those, those guys on the roof. You know. So I said, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave. I was about to clock, and I went to get some water, you know, like a big thing water. And when I went over. They're the, the, the roof was kinda half on tiles all over. There was nobody on the road. And I'm like where were these guys have gone? So I, I look at the front, I go around the side around the back of the house, and in the back of the house in the corner. I hear splashing in the in the water like a here in the pool. I you're splashing. So my. Splashing. So I go over there, and it didn't have a gate, had a big a big like a almost like look at surfboard door and I opened the door. And I'm standing in the doorway and the guys all nine dues are swimming in my puller in their under. So the shoes the shoes socks in their pants and shirts are all on the side. Where swimming. They're all barbecuing man. What's up? Yeah, we'll get the roof done. I guess whenever. And the guy sees me in the doorway, and he says to me jump in the man's not home. He thought he thought that I was another workers. My God jump in the man's not home. You're like bitch. I end the man freak out. It was a laugh so hard. It's my wife and she was all pissed off like those guys. We're fire them. Super. What? That's just Larry issue. That's hilarious. They were like we're stuck. We're getting the Walker. Shame underwear in their pants. And at least they weren't naked. Battering each other with their Dicks. Party. I walked to here. That's a crazy worst run. I that's interesting. I've never had a worst roof story after up to the riots at a show that's gonna do show for the peace officers association in Sacramento. Okay. This was probably ninety to ninety three. So all of the peace officer. They're the guy. I'm in the back. They go you we're gonna we're gonna take. We're gonna do a little presentation. So I said, oh, okay. And then you're up after the presentation. And I go. Okay, so. Dan Lundgren was the attorney general crazy like right wing right wing dude. And he walks up there, clap, they all know you know what attorney general goes up there. And he says, we'd like to honor the fallen officers that have passed away like I'm like the back of what my son. So he's talking about the riots and I'll people are animals, and how they burned up their own neighborhoods, and how they are lawbreakers how they are criminals other thugs, how we're not gonna they're not gonna win how we're going to tack them on crime. We have to lock every one of 'em up L we're gonna do, and they're all in on the frenzy, all the people in the frenzy. Then he says, I actually would like to take a moment of silence to, to recognize an officer who was who was killed in line of. Duty and almost like in the bag on my. I said, could this, how could this fucking get worse? You have to follow this. Hind him. A picture comes down slowly of the dude start in his uniform, and they're all and his wife comes up and gets like a folded flag. Oh my God. Medals and then the guy wraps it up. And then it is silent that guy goes back because you're up and what a what once there's a foul funeral when it goes, you're up. And I said, nobody's going to introduce me, not just start start talking. What might just start talking? What do you mean? Just start talking is reduce myself and. Yeah, I went up there, and it was has imagine. I said, I didn't drive y'all. Hey. I didn't do it. That's funny. Nothing nothing. Nobody. They're all crying, and is the in his your of their users like I. I was there with you guys. I probably would be Rodney King, too. But want to jump? Awful. They silent the anything anything out of the element. I don't ever want to leave the club. That's your element, right? Right. So to do that was, I'm sure not a lot of money. So at the Yakima state fair, probably mid nineties. They, they hire me to perform at the fair for like an hour. That's cool. A fair. Everybody's having fun in hotdogs time. So, so there's Dragway. There's there's, there's five stages. It's in the afternoon. There's no one out there now. There's probably like five people out there, just going over to get away from wherever they were where it was crowded. And the guy goes are you ready? Stop I go are they ready? I said, do I said, this can wait a little while nobody out there and he goes? No, no, no. Look, he said, this is a great as he says the sound of your voice will bring people to the stage. He was come on. Let's go. Let's go. You go up there. There, there's probably seven people stop that I'm talking now, they're seventeen people and doing our. So then there's probably like ten minutes in twenty people, fifty minutes, twenty people, and I'm just like eating it place. Twenty people. Scattered twenty people sitting together twenty people can't really hear you. What do you say funnel cake? They got powder all over their faces twenty people all over Diane, trying anything to work and it my head, I go, what the heck is going to get worse. How could it get worse? That when you're upset in the front of the stage, a clown, on my God, a fall on clown, goes by the front of the stage, writing a fucking little bike about as big as your, your Gatorade bottle, a man on a little bike with a clown shoes shooting out to the left a little handlebars. But this I mean like that. And he's pedaling and I look and I go hukou, get worse. I said that clown is going by the front of the stage. And he did that he did the and I'm like I said. Don't encourage them back because back again takes one hand off. And he's at one hand. Did the horn again? And this is what I said to us said. Hey, man. How? Hey, man. How about a little professional, courtesy clowns? Oh my God. Oh my God. Did you wanna die die that go like nobody there's you can just be like I'm out of here? Whatever twenty before who cares right anytime you work outside anytime. I've worked outside. I hate it. I did the seaside pavilion in the Bronx, home or some and people started fighting in the front. Yeah, the. Pepper spray, separating people, people are throwing chairs and there's kids, the separating the kids got cop comes in. He's like show Mike, Mason, people that you're on the air pollution, guys. That's not hot stock is in your eyes, you out to end the guys. I what why did you leave? I said, I left because I got shit it. My name is everywhere. You can't contain that. Yeah. Oh my God. Dude. Why? How did you keep going? What made you go? I'm doing stand. That'd be like I'm done after one of those shows those dude. So there's a there's a convention in San Jose. And back then in when, when all the computer started, if you created a matrix of created a panel of created a, you know. Con process or. Every one of these people look like they had, you know, there, there were the guys that were being honored girls have been there all nerds. So the guy has like a like a like a tangerine jacket with ruffled sleeves. This guy created the, you know, he worked on the Atari thing. Processor. And, and the guy says, you know, they want me to they wanted me to host the thing. So I go over there, and I'm writing the elevator with these people, and they're like, hey, we're, we're, we're excited to see you. And I said, thank you. Yeah. You don't be too going onto this place San Jose convention center. Horrible opening. Why though? I was it was me hosting and doing thing horrible opening 'cause they're nerds. I can't relate. You can't relate you trying to make jokes like. Well, we've never been outside. We don't get it. You know, they look like they're never been outside never call them their hair. Touched woman, does the woman, making jokes about nipples. You might see one day. So these guys so toward the end of the show. I decide I'm not supposed to go back out there. And I decide. I'm not going back out there. So, so. So I think, you know, the woman running the event says, you know you gotta go back out there. I said, I'm not going back and she goes, no. You what do you mean? You're not going back out there. I said, I'm not I'm not going to behave. Me. I'm not going back there. And she goes, okay, so she goes and tells the guy running it, and he comes back and his pants rupture. Here's. And. Hit this much. I'm not. Because what I'm paying you. So you go back out there. And I said, you can take your fucking check and put it with your fucking pocket protector. 'cause I'm going back out there. He's one hundred was right going to going into a fire. Like if you see a fire going go run in that fire. Your mind. No, no. Oh my God. So nerd con was a failure. The police thing was was. Giacomo state fair, is just the environment. It's the people I've had that happen before I'm talking like I've done. Mike situation. Guys. Let me tell you my professional open mic situation. I've been there. Let me tell you. Yeah. I've had to do restaurants where people are eating it was like a dinner theater. They're like we're having Salisbury steak. We don't wanna hear your jokes about your vagina. What is that? A huge giant how they're all like. This girl outta here. Throw my mashed potatoes, like it was bad. Yeah. It's, it's awful. It's awful. But you kept going. Sure why. I'm not sure why. No, no. It's just it's that's all those are all part of the I would say, the good times, you know, that, that, you know, when those things happen though, you know, now every everything you have lawyers and everything's also calculated and, and they know where you are all the time. Yeah. And now, then those times we didn't have any of that. You never know section of. We went to I went to a I went to a strip club. My chauffeur started. Yes. And that the guy the guy said, you know, like diamond diamond Larry or something, I'm Larry. Larry work. He says, well, you know, you know, find somebody, you want, you want to, you know, so there was a girl and the girl was dancing with this guy. And I said, I said, oh, she's cool over there. So is a little dude. You know, you can't tell a little, they are when they're doing, like table dancing, and then there's a, there's a person walking around selling burritos in the club. You know they sell like role sell roses in the club. There's a guy there's a man would like a picnic basket any selling burritos in, in the club with foil. His wife made the burritos car. She says a man because she's, you know, she's older Catholics of, but she says him in to sell burrito. Right. Right. Right. So you give a burrito where when that blonde girl was dancing for the little dune, I guess, the little do Bader a burrito. Oh my God. I don't know where this is. And so she sitting with me and the guy runs up to the table. And he's like, you know, he's like you left me for him and, and he leaves. And what's that all nothing? He'll be. All right. So when we're leaving she's in the car with me when all the guys she's in the car with me. And we're gonna ready to take off and the door opens, and the due to the burrito at us stop. He's a hacia fucking burrito. Batch. This cylinder paper and hit you in the eye exploded in the back of the car. It was all over everywhere, rita's all over. Oh my goddess other someone selling burritos, in the club, though. I can't like that's amazing. And then you go to they sell scones area, depends what? It depends what you go to clubs in Milwaukee. They're so scones in the client, Texas, burritos, and I think in Miami, they might tell like human sandwiches all. That's shaving it right there. He's got the thing. He's all. Hey, speaking of ham hawks. How about some work. I mean, if you think about it, the girls are dancing, probably burning calories, you know, hungry the rose rose. It's great. You know what I mean? But I'd be hungry, like hell. Yeah. Give me a burrito. Good. I think that's a good idea. I love that. Those are crazy stories. Is there in San have you ever gone on a really bad day, like a really shitty? I mean, you grew up in LA. So you did you grow up with, like a lot of famous people. Or did you know other famous? Really? No anybody out now. Now I do. I don't allow everyone. Now. Yeah. Growing up. Not going up now. No doubt. You know I didn't go on dates. Now just shy shy, one time I want this girl. And I think I said, I don't know how we got on the topic of where I would hide her body like. You cereal. I think I would probably tied you up. You know, like in the Angeles fours, and she's like, what I'm like, what are we talking about how my God? You're like you got us here. Listen Li got us your shit like Ted Bundy fantasy. She tell me where you'd had my body ill you psycho. She freaks out on that is crazy people that, you know that you go out there who you hook up. They're both serial killer fans and they're going, you want to hear crazy story. Okay. So my dad when he was in. Stories. So my dad when he was younger, he grew up outside Philadelphia. Okay. I'm from Philadelphia. Obviously, I'm insane. So you can tell so my dagger about Philadelphia. And he was gone dates. And he went out with this really hot girl, and he was like, why is this hawker going out with me 'cause he was kind of a nerd at bottle cap glasses. Whatever. Right. So we meets this girl, and she's gorgeous. And he asks her out, and she says. Yes. And he's like, oh my God. This really hot girl is asking me out. How is possible? What is happening? Right. So she invites him over to her house, and he's all excited. He's like, oh my God. She's nice house. Good family, like she super hot. Oh my God. Hit the jackpot. Right. So she's giving him a tour of the house. You know, this is the bedrooms. These are the big house on the main line in Philly. Gorgeous house. So he's on press. He's blown away the go outside, and she walks on these little stairs. And she goes, and this is where all my pets are, and he looks on the ground, and there's, like at least fifty skulls and. Animal skulls on the ground and it's just heads just the skulls. The animals all lined up in a weird pattern and my dad's like what the that damage? This was so cool. I was matching our future together. Now got fucking psych over here tribal. So she tells him, he goes, what's up with these? What's up with these animals skulls, and like they're on the ground and like some weird pattern and she goes, oh, I'm like, really into, like, you know, the Colt, and I believe that when an animal dies, you have to bury it with its head above the ground. So then that way in the afterlife, it can still see what's going on. So she every pet she'd had since she was a little girl was buried at this house with its head above the ground all of them in a row. And she says you wanna go make out? Get me outta here. Yes. She was crazy. Is that I think all those people always existed. You know, but, but you never really saw like now, people that he cushions. Oh my God. Shit television. We have all these shows like I love eating tissues, like what the fuck tissues you, if you if you if you know, your moguls came down, and you gave them a swipe in elementary school is nasty. It's not as nasty as being an adult and people fart on you. They love shitting and the people's mouths get dark. We're gonna Dr. Wow. Okay. We're gonna get dark. Hang on, guys. We're taking a quick break. We'll be right back with George Lopez on worse. I stay tuned. Brush opping is probably one of the things I hate more than anything in the world. And so I was approached by this company, third love. And they told me hey, we have this amazing line of bras. We have over seventy sizes, including their signature half-cup sizes, and I was like, oh, half-cup sizes, tell me more because personally McGraw have larger breasts ones larger than the other, it's really awkward. It's hard for me to find bras, either, you know, having spaces or I'm spilling over. And so I was really interested to work with this company, and they said, you know, go to our website third love dot com and fill out this online questionnaire. We're gonna ask you all these questions about your breasts. Don't worry, it's totally normal, not awkward. I fill out this questionnaire. And then they tell me here. 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Get fifty percents off your order and get started today for just five dollars. Okay. Guys, we are back. We were getting weird. We're gonna keep getting weird. We're talking about weird shit. I mean, honestly have you seen some of the fetish stuff that's out there right now? It's, it's beyond me like it's beyond. So whatever you have whatever fetish you have do. There's a companion for you before they say, there's somebody that looks like there's no two people that fingerprints, but they'll be somebody that looks like you. That was the old days. Now, whatever fetish you have you'll find you'll find your mate. You'll find freak there's a free equally as freaky as you. And Tommy is friends with so many of them craze. Like he gets messages from his friends, and it'll be like look at this. We got a message at look at something innocent, and we'll open it up. It'll be like a girl shitting in a guys mouth. And like a lot of shit like not a little bit. All it's like crazy. That's like where do these people come from? Where do they come from? I don't know I'm asking you. Do you know have you ever had have you ever been on a date? And had anyone ask you to do anything weird like on PM? That's kind of true. That very normal slowly. Somebody. Yeah. The peeing on somebody. Yeah. I've done that I've done that before. I've had guys me. Unscripted unsubscribe. Yeah. No. But I think like there's, there's guys that are into really really weird shit. Like some guys are like choke me or like you know, punch me in the face like all kinds of stuff, have you ever been with anybody girl took away in the room by myself? I just jacked off like a normal kid, having anybody choked me. What I did. Like, how do you do it by grabbing? Follow me. She would've choked me. But. Get into some crazy ship relative snakes behind you before you come. She strangles you aren't Jesus does not approve of this. Like the only thing I choked was my own dick. Anybody or anything? No. I actually I've gone out with I, I'll have. Okay. I have another story for you. I dated a guy who was in the marines. Okay. At one point and going to war fucks you up a little bit. And I've never told the story before. So this is a little crazy. So he came back from war. He killed people heaves fucked up. Okay. But he was a lawyer now. So like, I'm like, oh, he's like a lawyer now he's normally espionage, normal righties lawyer. He is said to be in court professionals. I think. Oh, yeah. Like he was a marine, that's fine. But now he's a professional job is going to be professional man. So I up completely wrong. Obviously, I ended up dating this guy. I actually totally started like him. And then I slept over his house. Okay. This is the first time I ever slept over his house, and I and I'm a deep sleeper. Okay. So it could be like whatever I'm sleeping. All right. You know what I mean? Like you could stick a fucking hot dog in my ass and I'd be like, oh, let's. Chilly. By starting some deep sleep sleeping, whatever I wake up because I start to feel uncomfortable. I'm like what's going on? And I turn over and I'm hog tied. I'm hog tied in my fucking sleep, this guy, hob tied me with ropes and I'm like. What the fuck. What is happening? Right. And this is a guy that I was dating for like six months. This isn't like some like to catch a predator. This isn't like we hung out for two minutes. And then I slept over this is like someone that it was hanging out with for a while. And I wake up and I'm hob tied, and he's like, shh. It's okay don't freak out. It's hot. It's hot. It's hot you like it. And I'm like, why are you telling me I like this? Because I don't first of all, I'm not amateurs. I don't like my arms back. Like it's crazy. I was fucking naked. Well, 'cause I sleep naked. So Marnie naked. And he's at the end of the bed. Okay. Completely naked with nunchucks. Okay. I'm like, what the fuck weird? What is having? So he's going like this. And I'm remember he had a big window behind him in the moonlight was coming in. I'm fucking hog tied and he's going. And his shit. With the nunchucks almost like it's all in sync. I'm like what the fuck is happening right now. And he's like you bad girl, bad punish, you know, please, no, thanks, can you? Please untie me. I got so mad. I was furious. Like I got mad even with my arms being tied. I could a bit his face off. I was like, come for me. Like I will kill you, right? Because I'm like, don't do that. Don't do that to somebody right? And it made me. So, like I went from being really liking this guy like I really liked him to being completely disgusted and I was like, now I can see. He's fucked up like sure weird shit I made him on timing. So I'm like you need to fucking get untimely right now. Like I'm fucking pissed like untimely right? Fine. He's on Mattie goes and gets a knife. And then he's he's on his Dick's. He's all sad and depressed. I'm like, whatever do. So he goes and gets a knife, and he's all this in my face on my bitch. If you do any, I'll fucking kill you. Like, don't even care if I'm tied up, you will be one that ends up dead. And then he cuts. The ropes off and then like at wanted to act like everything was normal, like, so you watch the office. I'm like, no. Watch office. We'll get the fuck outta here. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? You've never had anything weird like that. Come on your famous. You had some girls who are like, oh my God. Look at my uterus. No, not like that nothing. I had a beat up my car with her high heels, gosh, fucking like a Celica. Those. The celica. But with their heels, I just kept hearing this. What the hell is the window on? You really can't see right? She beat up my car with her heels, and then the next morning, I had, like five thousand. Things in my car, and asshole just look like it looked like it. My friends, it looks cool school is five thousand dents and Mike. Right. Right right over from the Noman. It looks like somebody's shot at you. And you live. Pretty normal 'isolation for me is just being away. I'm not tying anybody. And I got the yeah change because you just just even the fact that, you know, the just the miss people just assume you're something, you know, when I moved into the name of I live in, you know, I it's almost like you know, why join a gym because all Healy like you walk up a hill. You walk another one is done by the server Tor. You walk up you. It's a good workout stairs over there. Like a Santa, Monica, you don't have to go through stairs there miles. So I'm walking and already I feel feel subconscious for two for one you'd like a big Mexican do walk in. But then you're like George Lopez and you don't know if anybody knows you or not still, I think I you just a big Mexican walk into the neighbor, you know. So I go around one day and it's fine. And then I go around one day, and there's a sale parked sideways and somebody's parking lot. And I go as. Talking to the car. I said that cars park kind of funky thing. The lady comes out of the house when she sees me walk by she runs out. And she goes, how many fucking times have I told you don't park your car in my driveway to you? Oh my God. You're like bitch. I live in that mansion over there. I'm going for a walk. Racially profile awesome. Oh my God. That's crazy. But, but it it's hits. I, I don't know. I I've always happen, so many times the gas company came to my house, and that and on a Saturday morning and, you know, when they're working on the house, and you listen. I don't care if you're done or not, I'm staying in the house. I'm paying for this house behind doing, I'm gonna I'm gonna sleep in the one part of it. That's done. And then the gas company came the guy news Saum e. Reggie Nuys me said, what are you doing? You said I live in this house, and he's like it's not the name on the account 'cause it's not my name. I said, I said it. Well, it wouldn't be in my name. It's my business managers, but he knows me right? He didn't turn the gas on. Because I said, so what am I broke into this house, like broken this house? You know, your show ended men. I don't know how you've been living you serious. You're serious. You're not turning. He goes this, I would, I would, if it was just me and you, I would just me and you, but, you know, I can't because you know, we're for the gas company as well. When you when you from work, come back. Oh my God. You fucking George Lopez. Please. That's fucked up to is just is just the way it is. Shady, it's is them. I don't think people get that was like famous people that they have to have their, their stuff and other companies because people can track you that way they can be like, oh, I can find where he lives. Right. Can find whose car and everything? Tommy is the same thing. All his stuff is in the business management's name. Yeah. And it was always like, you know, the girl that could put her whole hand in her mouth on. You're like I don't wanna see that they go. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. That's night. It it's, it's bizarre. Where does you come as weird as we become X as eccentric, as we become you meet crazier people out there that are like that for real? We're Centric, because it's just kind of goes along with the thing or a little bit removed. You don't like people, you know, maybe some people don't like to touch. I don't shake cans, they pound fast or they do this, or, they clean them. They always cleaning their hands of the sanitizer. What think cleaned their glasses. But you really meet some strange strange people, people just assume. You're strange because they're like, oh, he's an artist. He's a comedian. He's gotta have a weird. When I in one thousand nine I did the tonight show with Johnny Carson in nineteen Ninety-one like six months before he retired. So when, when, when they know that you're gonna do the tonight show and you can plug their club. I was working at the laugh. Stop in Atlantic City, Atlantic City, I city that's my spot. We're talking to Lennox city ninety one love Atlantic City. Oh, MS logo, but but I love it. But you know what is coming back? I think city looks great looks great. Brian there. It's great used to go there. My grandma gamble right to the beach. I love it was crazy to go over there. And you see casino full casino, just going over to palace in Las Vegas and looking, and it's closed. Everything is in there and it's closed. But they're opening again. This casino closed and you like when, like ten days ago, I go to school over there. You go to the window when you look inside and it looks like a casino with no one in this crate weird. Yeah, that's really rebuilding. It. So, so say you're gonna laugh stop working. And they say you're staying at the Ritz and I'm like the Ritz, but the riches life in a building from the twenties. And it's sad. Not nice. No. So I come back from lunch. Open the door there's a black dude in my in my loft. And I said, Amen. What was going on with what are you doing? What are you doing? He goes off. They didn't tell you and I go, tell me what they kept the cleaning supplies in my room for the building now. So he at the hotel. Yeah. The hotel room that your room that I was in. They kept the cleaning supplies in the closet. So the Doosan there is getting toilet paper is getting a mile. The Ritz in Atlanta Ritz crackers. So when we go there, it's, it's seven days to two shows a nice days, seven days a week. So one of the waitresses comes over and after the first is she says, you know, usually blow the headliner that is here every week every week, I blow the blow the guy that's headlining looking. Aren't that's cool. What am I going to do? Right. So I did so bad brokers. She didn't blow me. She's like you know what? I'm cool. The week. That's how bad awful. Really? It in Atlantic City. That's Atlantic shitty, what people used to call it. I love that place. I have great memories from the Atlantic. I'll take it needs to needs to Atlantic city's as part of his what on the water. So coming back, and I'm glad it's coming back because it's part of a great part of the United States. Did you go to jersey shore and stuff at all? When you. Malveaux Santa Monica. So we're gonna stick with stay by car the for worse. I, I look over and I'd never seen anybody car anybody's ever seen anybody hit by a car owners. I if you've ever seen a dead body in the in the street now have you? Yeah. The corner this dude laying in the street face down. And I. Guy goes around him. I said, wait a minute. Wait a minute. She's laying there dead, good industry in Santa Monica do that was in woodland of I look. I turn I you know, you another dead body walking down the pair, I turned another buddy, I turn around and I see the dude is probably fifteen feet in the air. Oh, like like like the way those mystery start, you know, like with the body going through the so he's one leg is up once back there and you and I just turned around, and he's at the fucking height of however high. I look fuck is all my guys back lands on the hood and you're just what that why wouldn't? I mean turn that way into dudes in the fifteen feet in the air what the. Guy didn't see him. Did he die? No good for him. George Lopez saw. Took that hit like chap. Jude everybody could die. Isn't it crazy shit that people can live? It's amazing. What you see what you hear. It's cremation people will confide in you. Yeah. They fall buildings up and I lived and yeah, it's kind of bananas had like a crazy, life experience where you almost died. Yeah. Couple times on the on the plane now. That's my biggest that's my biggest fear in the entire. So the now my best friend on my show, Valente. We were in Harlow gin and who were flying private. So he he had this big container of like Mexican wedding cookies like the big. So he's holding like he's going to a Mexican. I said, what's that? He goes, my, my brother made these, it makes the best Mexican wedding cookies, and may have when he goes. Gay to relax. She's got a big thing like this. He's flying with it on, on facet. Seriously? So we're we're flying back and the pilot wakes us up. And when the pilot wakes up he's wearing a mask he's fucking oxygen. So, so we put up so he's like, you know, calm down and, and we're where flying and we're going like this. Breathing in week all a woke us up that were at the same time we're going. Oh, he wakes us up all. That noise what you think you've got the mask the mask on, and he says, we're having some problems with the plane put your mask on and, and hold on tight. I look over fucking guys got the he's got both hands around the, the cookies, and he's lease. I said, hey, a mask on and were literally at a thousand feet were flying thousand feet because the because of the air scares you almost always thousand Phoenix shit, right? Private jet over Texas at a thousand feet and were choking on our air. We get to pass oh, and we, we get out, and there's ambulance, wait in there. There's fire department, there's everybody there, they check us fucking cookies, or they're fucking guy with the coupon stethoscope to the cookie. They take my friend to the hospital because he's having he's not he doesn't have normal high rating and, and the and the cookies are they're like, they're like, they're on the by the paramedics. And I said, man, I gave it to gave it gave them to the fire department. He had a heart attack. The hospital to go see him then they had to send another place. I went to get them the next morning to go where am I cooking Bootle? And I said, I gave it to the fire department. We're about cookies booth. I said, I give to the fire department. Oh, my he wanted to kill us. Saved your life. He's off fuck my life. Those. That is crazy. That's my biggest fear. Fear scary spot. It's not. I've never flown private before Tommy. And now we fly private, and I'm freaked out like I'm like this plane is small, like, you know, the hire these pilots. Yeah, they're great pilots, whatever. But who knows like if they're having a bad day or like someone's doing coke, or like? Right. What about those who works for everybody dies? He's fuck my life. I hate my. It's scary. It's scary. It actually freaks me out. And then sometimes because the planes are so small world, like God private jet life is so hard. Let me tell you. Sometimes because the planes are so small, it's like they bounce when you hit a little turbulence. It's like, oh all over the place because it's not as heavy as like another plan, you know, baked commercial plane. It's scary. So, so I'm not gonna say the actress is a very famous actress. She had never she. She asked me. How do I get a plane like what do you have to do to get a plane like I wanna take my husband to Vegas where his birthday and I gave over the number of the of the people that I did my planes with. And here's here's his number got those times it tell you not to use the bathroom on the plane, like it so short that, like, just hold it. So on the way back, she has to go to the bathroom shan't. So she goes in and she goes about them, and she just, you flush doesn't flesh put that thing down 'cause door, they get they get off and they leave. And the next day they call her from the aviation, and they say, listen, we're sorry. About the plane. And she's like, what about the plane? She goes, we're, we're, we're sorry, we're sorry. We're trying to figure out who who did it. But somebody went to the bathroom on that plane. And it, it it was not. I mean it's just she was it was it was foul. It was nasty. And we're so. Sorry, we're gonna compu- the we're gonna compu- the, the flight because somebody went to the bathroom on the plane and inflammatory didn't clean the toilet. Oh my God. It was her. This nasty piece of have come out of such a beautiful beautiful. It's impossible. There's no way. Oh my God. That's amazing your show, a boombox cooed ipod Kelly by pot pill toilet. She's like, yes. You know, then all of a sudden, the clear, I guess, you know, I noticed that there was an older. Yes. We're sorry I mean, please forgive your, your next flight, the first one's free. She's just like and you guys don't even know how I mean maybe some of you do obviously, it's a very big you'll private jets are expensive. It's like what six grand Vegas like it's expensive. It's like very very expensive. So that's hilarious. That's amazing. That's a great great. Great story told me thousand good stories today. Your great storytelling, everybody should on me, but I got some pretty good story. Jill. You have great stories. I love that you've been amazing. I've loved having you here. If you've do you have any more you want. Before we finish out and let me know. All right. We were smoking we, you know, we were on the young guys and I love it. Where a DC over the Hilton and, and where smoking weed on a Sunday afternoon. Again, this guy's got this big bag a weed, you know, and we ought to room service, and there's at the same time of the room service, knock, the you look at the window, and you see police lights police lights. So you look outside the police lights. And as we look we hear share, and I go to the guy go the cops, he gets his bag illegals balcony, throws it over a lands on top of the police car. Oh my God. He's big. Fagor week. We open it up in this room service, and we're laughing in the guys like fuck. I thought that was a we go over there at a concert, there has, you know, has a number like beef forty nine and by the, by the light bar is his bag of weed, and then we go down and get it. He starting to go down. And they lights turn off and they drove off the bag of weed on top of the police car didn't even see it. Oh my God. Well was so fucking. Oh, just throws it on the cop car stood over the, the perfect timing of the lights. Yeah. Yeah. And then we, we look this way, and there's lights than we hear. And I said, it's the cops. Oh my God. Do that's hilarious. I love it. Thank you so much for taking the time to be here. We're to most before I know and I left hacking. Person. I love hearing your story could sit here all day. I got shit to do anymore. Fucking stories is this. I love it. Do you have anything coming out that you want to do? To show what's going on dot net. Dot com dot com. That's it, that's it George go to George Lopez dot com. Guys, see everything that's going on. Instagram. George lopez. Make sure to foul him comment. Tell him how funny these stories were they were amazing. The buyer name. Stop when you know, when people were buying domains. Which I wish I could have been smart smart. Buy, you could bought news dot com. Coke dot com will make a living, exercise dot org. So this guy this guy, new soul me my name back for three grand. I told him I rec- you again. I'm gonna fucking kill you. I love it. He only charge you that's a long time. That's a lot. So some people. I was that so place. He was at any took up when he saw me took off. I've actually heard that from a lot of mine. He's a Fred. Senate Tonio has your name and I go really and I go, and I saw this name, it was a new the guy. He did it while we were too, while we were working together. He's like this is going to be my, he's he got George, George Lopez dot com. He knew you're gonna be famous up. I'm gonna fuck in. There's people that do that. Yeah. Yeah, they look at new stand that guy, I'm gonna go steal his name dot com. Win. I need to. When we were making all that money. Yeah dot com, where young girl people made a lot of mind. Now. And you know what? Not I saw this duty he, he lives in lake Sherwood. Gorgeous when it crashed he crash. She had a -partment in north Hollywood. Same dune stop. Wow. Living LA his money was in the dock so he didn't. He didn't take it out. Wow. You're young twenty eight lake Sherwood out there. A big ass house sell expensive wanna win down that was in north Hollywood dot com. And no one goes to that. Oh my God. Thank you so much ring here. George guys make sure to rate and subscribe leave comments and tell us how you're much enjoying these podcasts. I read all of your comments, even the ones that hurt me. I appreciate all of them. So make sure to like subscribe, and at us on a worse, I on YouTube. I love you guys. Thanks so much for listening. And we'll see you next week with worse verse. 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Frank Marshall - 'The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend a Broken Heart'

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Frank Marshall - 'The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend a Broken Heart'

"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the three hundred ninety nine. Th episode of awards chatter the hollywood. Reporter's awards podcast. I'm the host gothenburg and my guest. Today is one of the most artistically and commercially successful producers in hollywood history. A man who for fifty three years has helped to realize the visions of filmmakers including peter bogdanovich walter hill. Martin scorsese george lucas. Roberts mbekis m night shamlan. David fincher paul greengrass and most famously steven spielberg with whom. He has collaborated on and off for forty years often in tandem with his wife of nearly thirty five years kathleen kennedy with credits including the last picture show paper moon e t the extraterrestrial gremlins. The goonies the color purple empire of the sun who framed roger rabbit the sixth sense seabiscuit. The curious case of benjamin button all five installments of the indiana jones franchise all three installments of the back. To the future franchise three installments of the drastic park franchise and all five installments of the born franchise collectively resulting in five best picture oscar. Nominations and more than six point. One billion dollars worth of ticket sales at box offices in north america alone a two thousand eighteen recipient alongside his wife of the academy of motion picture arts and sciences highest honor for a producer. The irving g thalberg memorial award. Frank marshall over the course of our conversation seventy four year old and i discussed how he got into producing by volunteering to assist bogdanovich with his feature direct debut. The chance encounter a few years. After that which led to his long collaboration with spielberg and then through spielberg to his future wife establishing a trio which would co found and for a decade co-run amblin entertainment before kennedy and marshall went off on their own to form the kennedy marshall company. Why he has occasionally ventured into directing on projects like nineteen ninety s arachnophobia. Nineteen ninety-three alive. Nineteen ninety-five congo. Two thousand six is eight below and most recently the acclaimed two thousand twenty. Hbo documentary the bg's. How can you mend a broken heart which is nominated for five emmys including best documentary or nonfiction special and best directing for a documentary or nonfiction program plus much more and so without further ado. Let's go to that conversation. Thank you so much for doing the pike as great to have you and congrats on the nomination at thank you. My first verse. Wow okay. I can't believe that. Well so i. I as a director. Okay no well that's fantastic and of course Come to plenty of. Bg's related stuff but on this podcast. We go right from the very beginning. So if you wouldn't mind just telling listeners where were you born and raised in. What is your folks do for a living. I was actually born in glendale california I was raised out in the san fernando valley until we moved to newport beach for high school so i went to high school in newport and then i went to ucla. So i've never left the west side. And and i guess you were. Athletics have always been a big part of your life. Yes athletics and music. My dad was was a composer. Arranger played jazz guitars are grew up in a musical family He was under contract to capitol records on and my mom played piano so There was a lot of music in our house as i was growing up. All right so eventually you off to to ucla. And i don't believe it was with a specific focus on thelma. I so what was it. And how did we end up with you in on a phone bath. No i was kind of a normal teenager and had no idea what i wanted to do when i went to to. Ucla i started i. I did like a semester and engineering. And then i went into theater arts for a couple of semesters and then i ended up in pali cy but along the way i took a couple of classes in in theater arts and and one of them was Movies and a wonderful professor whose name a gray herald gray. Yeah forget his name but he had written this book on the history of movies so we had this little paperback book. And so you know. I thought great so i learned by just watching great old movies and i loved movies but i had no idea how they got made but i knew i was drawn to entertainment. I liked you. Know the drama classes in high school. And i was in the little theatre group down in orange county and so i knew i'd either go into music or something that was related to entertainment and then i met peter bogdanovich at a party and the rest is history. While i'm going to stop you there because of course i wanna ask you about that. But i i also have seen a few of the Interviews you've done before that. I read prepping for this. You've talked about the sand pebbles being a major movie for you. And i don't know if it was. It seems like that would have been right while you were at ucla. And i don't know if it was just a movie you loved or so as a movie that made you wanna make movies but anything you want to say about that. Well i remember it's sort of fondly a it's it's bittersweet memory for me because i was recovering from the first of many knee surgeries. I had torn cartilage playing soccer at ucla. Nineteen sixty seven and and as a sort of gone on crutches and one of my best friends in high school. Took me to see sam pebbles and of course seeing the samples and realizing that you could be transported to different places. And what a movie could do. I really started thinking this. This could be something. I'd be interesting in doing. I had no idea how to get into the movie business. At that time it was before. I admit peter and but i just loved that movie and and we use to quote lines from the movie. And it's you know. I was just a fell in love with movies and then you know As has things would happen Was in the right place at the right time and You know Just said when peterson. I'm gonna make my first movie. I said hey. I'd love to work on it. Let's your set the scene though. Because i mean of all things this is at a what a birthday party for john. Ford's daughter i've read like so. How do you even end up there. And why was he there. Okay well it was. It was a connection with my dad. My dad was in the army with an actor named ken. Curtis yeah who was a part of the sons of the pioneers. Which was mr. Ford's you know. Sort of goto musical group there in almost every one of his movies. Yeah and and. Ken was married to barbara for john. Ford's daughter who was an editor and they lived out until luca lake when i was growing up and they had a pool so we go over their house to swim in the summer when it was really hot because nobody had air conditioning so i stayed friends with them You know my whole life. And when i went to ucla. Mr ford lived on copay or just off sunset there so i left my little motorscooter in his garage every summer and i had met him a couple of times but then one christmas. I think it was nine hundred sixty six. My dad said. Hey there's a birthday party for barbara year right there. We'll come up but we'll see each other and there'll be a lot of really famous actors and actresses. They're i said cool. I'll go to this party and sure enough. There was war bond. John wayne and joanne dru and hurry carried junior and of course. Ken and barbie. Barbara's birthday and there was there was her chime ford and had just taken that movie class so i had seen a lot of his movies and so it was like incredibly intimidating to be there but also great. Yeah and then down the stairs. Came this cute little girl with a pixie haircut and bubbly and said isn't it great. How many wonderful actors or here. And everything and i said yeah and so. I was sort of proud of the fact that i knew mr forbes movies and i really actually talk about him because i just taken this class and she said to me you love movies all i love movies is she said well come on in. You need to meet my husband. And i kind of said oh really oh i don't want to meet your eyes. Yeah so. I admitted now and it was polly platt. Yeah who turned out then to be my mentor and great friend and just fabulous fabulous woman but she took me in and i met peter and they were. They're doing a documentary and ford and but he just met. Roger cormon and roger corman asked him to shoot some second unit on wild angels for all of the things that i didn't know i wanted to be an all of the confusion. I was in about my career. Peter knew that he wanted to be a director he was now he was seven years older than me. So maybe it was. You know that time it took to but he knew definitely what he wanted to do in life. So i said look i flunked working in productions and things i've done a little theatre group and you know If if you make moving you come back. Give me a call and of course i forgot about it because people always say oh. Yeah i will and you never hear from three months later. My dad called me and said you meet somebody named bugs or something ford party. Yeah and he said well you gotta call them. Is there so. I called peter. And he and polly had moved from new york to saticoy avenue out in the valley. And he said we're gonna make this movie. Roger cormon gave us the money to make this movie wrote the script and you wanna work on nice ensure what do you want me to do. I don't know i've never met him. Just come over. So that was the start and the beauty of it was so low budget that i got to do everything and this was targets. This was targets I learned everything there was. And that's when i really trust love with making movies. I said if you do this and make a living. I'm in i'm doing. This almost flunked out of school. Well i know that was just one of seven that you eventually did with peter and that's not even counting the other side of the wind and the more recent cool stuff you guys have done but i kissed. Can you just talk about how that evolved to the extent. Where so targets is sixty eight Last picture show is seventy one paper moon. Seventy-three daisy miller seventy four. It looks like you had different producing responsibilities on each of these and or different. Let's say different responsibilities or maybe you can characterize how they evolved to the point. Where on i believe. Daisy miller is where you impress somebody else yes while it was It was interesting scott. Because i didn't know it when i was you know targets and even on last picture show but i was sorta producing without knowing it because my my view of what the producer does he helps the director get division up on the screen whatever that means and so when i worked on on targets whatever needed to be done i did you know whether it was shooting some of it. I acted in it. I built some of the set dressing built some of the sets. I found things. I made sandwiches. I watered the lawn. I rented cars anything to get. Keep the movie going and it was the same on the last picture show. I was the location manager. But i work with polly and finding the locations getting locations and i had another really fine mentor. Don guest. who is our production manager and he really taught me about the producing or the production side of things. So i was really working with and for the director rather than being kind of from the studio saying saying no. You can't do that. You can't falling finding options and alternatives to things to achieve what The director wanted or. What their vision was for the story so we made a last picture. Show is location managed. What's up doc. Next year i was also. I was peter's assistant and and also location manager. But i was learning how this worked and who you know what a producer did in those days. The producer really was raising. The money and getting the money wasn't actually making the movie. I just love being on the set. That's where the action was. That's where things happen. That's where it's fun and so on paper moon which was our next movie. Peterman me associate producer. And on on that i really started learning about production and budget and scheduling and data days. And all that stuff and i was liaising with the studio at paramount. Then i wasn't involved in script yet. But i was heavily involved in post production and i learned that from another of my mentors. I've had wonderful wonderful mentors along the way verna field in her own. So i now had this kind of fully rounded except for developing script. Which i peter and polly did and didn't really worry about it. Then we went off to make daisy miller and rome. And that's when i met a young filmmaker at lunch who was visiting our set. He was touring europe because his tv movie which was called dual Was being released as a feature in europe and that was steven spielberg now. Was there something about somebody was homesick. Or something what was what was that about. Yeah he he wanted to. He wanted to have lunch with the some people from home and we knew we were making the movie and the publicity guy knew me called me and today's i. I've got the young filmmaker and you know he's he's kinda getting a little homesick and he'd like to see some some people and have lunch. Show some filmmakers so we did. We had them to lunch at does little It was a studio in downtown rhone called safa paladino just amazing place to major movie and every lunch we at a long table where the cast in a bunch of the crew would would gather and so there was Fred sill who is publicity guy. There was stephen and sitting. Next steven was verna fields and then there were are actors. Berry brown's simple shepherd. There was peter. And i always had at the end of the table ahead. A bowl of pasta. They knew it every day had win. Win rome her. So so i wasn't there at the start of this lunch and i came in there. Were all seated. And i was introduced around and i met stephen. I went over. And i had to of boston. Standing up. And i went back to peter and i asked him a question and i said sorry. I gotta go back to the set and i left. I moved back to the stage and verner later told me that stevens said to her. That's the kind of guy. I need more interested in the next shot than lunch. That scrape isn't it amazing though when you think about i mean i'm sure you would have had a wonderful career. And he would have had a wonderful career. If you'd never had that brief encounter but yet you just think how different things might have been right exactly and and you know the there's another lesson in that it's always do your best because you never know who's looking you know always pay it all always make the best coffee co late. The pages always do your best because in. That moment took five years in five years later. When stephen was sitting on the beach with george lucas in hawaii they were talking about raiders lost ark and george said well who do you want to produce it and stevens said. Let's see if we can find that guy. Frank marshall and there had been no contact in the intervening years. No none and i got call my little hovel in your westwood. And they said this is george. Lucas has office Would you have time to come in for a meeting. I said i can come right. Oh that's unbelievable. Yeah i guess. In the in the interim he had done a little called the first star wars right so of he american graffiti american griffin. Yeah well and you. You'd still been busy though. Because i'm looking at a few more with with peter with at long last love. Nickelodeon looks like you started with walter hill on a few things. And even with scorsese on the last waltz which is a big deal. What was it when you went in for this meeting. I guess with lucas and maybe stephen was also there. Did you get a clear what they were looking for in a producer. Yeah you know it. It was an interesting time because george was forming lucasfilm and he wanted to have three movies in different phases of production one in pre production development. One shooting in one in post and he had to going at that time he had empire strikes back any had more american graffiti and this was going to be his third movie that he would Haven't production and george again supports his directors. And stephen had just come off. Nineteen forty one and i think that he had been so beaten up by the studio that he wanted someone to protect him and and be on his side from the production side and that was my reputation and he remembered that. Back and Yes i i was doing fine. I i had a great career going. I loved working with walter. We may to movers together. We're still great friends. And and working with marty on last walter unbelievable but then this opportunity came that you know only happens once in your lifetime will so that first movie still lucas and your first soul producing credit is is raiders which also ultimately is the first oscar nomination for you but I guess i wonder did you. You know there's the idea all we gotta get a guy like frank marshall. Oh this is an on your part. Oh this is a cool thing. Lucas spielberg but when you actually got down to business on this did you find that your styles that you acclimated wealth each other. Yeah we got along great. Because i was all about solving problems and how to shoot the movie and how to to make the movie for a price and you know it was interesting when i talk about it now. I still didn't really understand or was interested in how the movie got developed. Just give me the script. And i'll tell you how to make it and and how to budget and how to you know solve those problems so that's changed now over the years where i'm involved in all traces but Back then it was really about. I'm i'm the guy who's gonna help you get. The movie made the way you want it to be made. And i'll take care of the studio and you know we'll figure things out and then we all moved to london and we had a great crew there and a great place to shoot at l. studios and a lotta people that work with george before on star wars and it was just a great team and everybody was in support of the vision of that movie and So you know and again looking back. You know we really. We really hit it off and cathy was there working with stephen. And that's where we met and we just had fun working together and when we came back. Stephen offered kathy. At and me poltergeist. Well i i want to solve your only because if anyone here is you know living under a rock or something. And they don't know who talking about so. Cathy is catholic. Your wife since eighty seven. But you guys met on this project where she's his assistant your a producer for the first time and i was lucky enough to be there the night a couple of years ago three years ago i think when you guys got your tallberg awards the highest honor that producer can get and you sort of shared she she and you this. It was really a meet cute situation. And i wonder if you wouldn't mind just sharing again your perspective of how it came about well Yeah was you know again. These things just happen. That's the best way to describe it. you know When i met cathy she was great. Who's working for stephen. She was all about taking care of stephen and getting stephen wanted and that was great and we became best friends and she loved movies and i never assumed i would meet someone who love making movies as much as i did so. I was kind of married to the movies. And then there's this person that was kinda going along here and we had a lot of the same interests but we were really friends. And and then. Stephen asked us to work on other's movies with poltergeists and at and then you know we've kinda after et. I think we started going out kind of kept it a secret because you know i really wanted people to to know that she had produced the movie that i wasn't because people just assume things so we really kept an under the radar and then when the two movies came out and they did so well and it had gone so well stephen said to us one. We form a company and we said well. We don't know what that means for. Sure. let's get more movies together and that our ambulance started and of course then we we were just together making these movies and say well you know. Yeah yeah well it'd be could think let's get married to actually correct me if i'm wrong. But i guess the first sparks. I guess not to put words your but it sounds like you guys. The assignment from stephen was to like kind of make a model or something. During the making of raiders. Yeah that's exactly right. Steven asked kathy. One day to stephen. Leicht design action sequences with with actual models. Now do it with a previous and stuff but back in those days he loved to. There's a lot of shots of them. We had this big model made of the desert. Where's lying. He's looking through a camera so he likes to design his sequences action sequences with models. So he said you know. Gino anybody that can me some models while i had grown up making reveal models out in the valley with my dad. My walk the end. I turned cathy. I said you know. Can you get some rebel trucks. Termine trucks and tanks and motorcycles and she said yes she said you know. I love making models to and i said you do. Yeah so we spent the weekend together matt putting together these models and you know that was kind of start and then we fell in love. It's great amazing story. Lovely slurry and and as you say i guess you each had your marching orders after that where you're doing she's doing et but there was there even pre amblin. There you guys would kind of weigh in on each like were you. Did you have involvement with the for instance. Yes yes i was. I was around. You know we were there for the planning of both movies. Kathy and i went up to stevens house. We needed a rewrite on the script than we rewrote the script. In a couple of nights all together on poltergeist and turned it in and so she was around for that and then. At came second. And i helped with the post production. Because that was really my forte. Because of verna so i helped her with the or out to the movie post production and of course. We knew john williamson. Here's another crazy thing. John williams was in the army with my dad. All my my dad has a lot to do. But johnny was in the army band play piano. My dad played and and and he was out in the valley. So i sort of grew up with johnny and so then he was stevens composer. And so it's it's all been pretty magical. What a small world so now. I guess in in most scenarios know if somebody were to say to you. Frank who does the producer work for like director can fire director doesn't like the screenwriter. Whatever or doesn't like the production designer they can replace. Who would you say the producer answers to. I always answer to the director. Don't tell studio that. I'm director producer. Okay that's why and that's why they like you. I figure that's really always seen that as my job is to help. Get that vision up on the screen and figure out all the logistics in this stuff because the The producer asks a thousand questions today and the director answers a thousand questions today. That's the difference in the roles and so it's my job to find out what's in their head and then how to execute it now. Why you know for a lot of people. I think they dream of being the director because then they're holding. The you know the the rains. I guess in a sense why for you is it. I don't wanna say more appealing because you also obviously have directed but why was that something that held appeal to you to be enabling somebody else's vision. Well i'm i guess. I'm a problem solver i. I love solving problems. I love getting things done. And that's more of the producers job. And i you know it's and i have directed as you say and that's really tough at least for me. I mean you know everything's on your shoulders and you get the credit went to work and you get the blame when it doesn't snow. Just feel that my my skill set a in. Most cases fits being producer better than a director but then there are some stories. I want to tell myself and I was lucky enough to learn from Stephen bob's meccas. Because they gave me the second unit director jobs and the job of the second unit director is to imitate the first unit. So i learned from the best so i took those those experiences and then applied them to You know my four or five movies that i've directed blowing so that was all the you were working with those guys. Most during these amblin. I guess the amblin decade Obviously with the mecca. It's it's back to the future. And then also who framed. Roger rather where i think you know what people should remember that was really the first blending of live action and animation ray which was just whole revolutionary concept and back to the future. I guess was unlike Well did you know with raiders that you were getting involved with a multi film endeavor from the beginning. Yes on raiders. We knew there were gonna make three of them okay. We all agreed that we would make three and with back to the future was also always understood. This is going to be a series now back. Their future was a single movie. And then when it did so well Bob and bob gale thought. Well there might be another place to go with delorean right and so i mean i'm looking back at the at that era. And it's kind of incredible that you were pumping out five or six movies a year in the in the mid eighties and not like phoning it in these are. These are major major movies. We're not even talking as much in depth about the goonies and all these other things that you had a hand in. And i guess i just wonder how for for as long as you did. Are you sustaining that. We're used to staining that level of output. Well i part of it is the kathy. And i were married so we were together all go off and and each go and direction but we worked with incredibly talented and fund people. I mean when you look at the directors we worked with and the projects we worked when he was a golden age is going to happen again and we were. We were able to just to do what we wanted. And we had great projects and they kept coming up and somebody. Br joe dante say i wanna make gremlins and we go okay and and people trusted. It's a studio trusted us to bring in on budget. Nothing ever got out of control and you know it was just a really really interesting and fun time and i think because the three of us were together all the time that made it work. So i you know as you say. It is the job of a producer to solve problems that may not be anticipated that arise and i just want to bring up a couple of things that you were presented with as a producer. And ask you just in the moment. What are you thinking. How do you how do you. How do you even see the the next day over the horizon. You know how you gotta get there. So i mean the most famous one i guess was with with Second i think it was a second indiana jones. Indiana jones the couple of doom and eighty four harrison ford gets injured and this is a hugely expensive sequel and it would have been a disaster if you had to shut down right Yeah exactly and you know again. It's just you take one step at a time. And i'm not sure we could have done this without a director like steven but you know. We had several meetings. First of all we had to figure out how to take care of harrison what that would take. And then what the recuperation time would be and once we understood that then we just had to reschedule of the movie and amazingly enough we had a. We had a wonderful stunt double for harrison dick armstrong and so he had done the first movie and he had done half of this movie temple of doom. So stephen was able to figure out how to shoot the scenes mostly in the mine in the caves and stuff And because there's a lot of action without actually cutting to indies face so we shot all of the shots that we would've shot and most of them were with with vic but at some of them would have been harrison. Hetty had been there. But we shot all these these sequences and then when harrison was well again and healed. He came back and we turned around and shot the medium and up shots of harrison. And i'm not sure there's another director except for stephen. That could have done that because those are the days we're on film and there were no avid and there was you know we were cutting on film so you didn't have the you know the luxury of having an ipad going. Oh yeah that's shot. I want it was all in stevens head back with stephen. You had great success in particular with in the mid to late eighties with color purple and empire of the sun and i. It brings up a thing that you know. It's it's no longer quite quite applicable. Things that happened in the schindler's list. Onwards but i just want to read you a funny quote of yours from around that time where he say quote working with steven. Spielberg is a lot of fun. You don't win many oscars but you do have a lot of fun close close and i think what people forget. Is that pre schindler's list. He was for whatever reason kind of often left out. I mean that color. Purple eleven oscar nominations including best picture but no directing nomination for stephen just like jaws beers before then and over eleven ties the turning point at the oscars then empire the sun ofer sex. These great movies. That for whatever reason i guess just wonder what do you think that was about was their jealousy of stephen. At that point. I do think jealousy and that that he could actually do these sort of popcorn movies and then do something serious you know when you look at color purple and you look at empire. The sun there in amazingly shot and acted and deserved all the nominations. But i just don't think that people were able to accept the fact that stephen could do everything right. And so you know. We got nominated by We didn't win any right right. Well okay so this you know. There's all kinds of stuff the rest of that decade land before time always with audrey hepburn cape fear hook and then you direct for the first time. Which is the thread. That's to connect of course to be jesus in here. It's with arachnophobia. Nineteen ninety with killer spiders. Then the next one is alive with a cannibal situation and a plane crash in ninety-three. You're not making life easy on yourself right. I mean these are tough sells well. I actually thought. Arachnophobia was the right kind of movie to start with. Because it's kind of a b. movie kind of i. I understood horror and comedy and it seemed like The right choice for me to start. I'd done a lot of second unit by then had worked with actors very much mostly stunt people but when i met jeff daniels. He made me so comfortable. That i said yeah. I really wanna do this. And and we got started. And then i was really interested in the story as i said. There's you know the difference between directing and producing are for me are really the stories that i feel. I wanna tell. And that continued on all the way below. Whereas i wanted to tell that story about the dogs. Yeah yeah and that one. I think opened number one right. That was the most successful well. So what was it. That happened I mean here's here's quote from from kathy quote. Leaving stephen was the hardest thing franken i ever did but it was done only because we have personal things that we wanted to do together close quote. This was when i believe in nineteen ninety two you and she start the county marshall company which ever since then has been within the auspices of or partnering with one student or another. But why at that time. When you're having so much success with stephen. Did you guys decide. We're gonna we're gonna go it alone. Well i think. I'd say it was really for a couple of reasons. One that you know we got married. And we had talked about having making our own movies. And i was starting directing and also you know amblin had gotten so big by then that we were spending more time in the office then when we were in the movies and i think we just wanted to go back to making our own. Movies and steven was was incredibly. Tough decision is. Cathy said but stephen embraced it and he was very gracious about it. And as you know we're still making movies together exactly and and just to that point as a final pre. Bg's section here. I wonder if i can just mention a few of these that you guys well you particularly have done since that chapter again where you know. I know let's say a little tidbit that i would prompt you just about each of these and then you say whatever you but i mean. The sixth sense is nine hundred. Ninety nine this is a spec script from a basically unknown filmmaker right and not only. Do you recognize the potential in it but you then find a way to get with a with a quite limited budget. The guy who he rooted. Dreaming of bruce willis in it. So just anything you you know. I think it's these are kind of ways to illustrate what a producer does when he's doing it right like you do so anything you could say about that sure. Well the the you know still to this day the best spec script i've ever read and we immediately jumped into the to the competition to to get the script it was. We had our deal at disney then. And that's part of the job of a producer. We called david. Vogel was our executive and said stop eating lunch gorgeous script and he he immediately you know saw how great it was and so we got the script but then the students said the first time maker. You know we're gonna give you ten million dollars to make the movie all in actors everything we said. Okay so i went tonight. And i said so. Did you write this with anybody. Mind he said. Yeah bruce willis said well that's not gonna fit in our budget. But i knew bruce and he was shooting armageddon on the lot and i knew that he was interested in these kind of paranormal. Kind of Stories and because we had talked about doing together. So i call this age. And i wanted to bruce the script and his as ensure and so you know after about two weeks and i didn't hear anything i call them back and sure enough. He said to bruce. Because it was a first time director and blah blah blah. So i just walked over the set. And i say bruce i got a script i want you to read. I handed it to him. Nice nice. that's what a producer does and you got. And so he got on board. and that was. I mean just rally one of the from budget to prophets one of the most successful of don right. Yeah and you know to to bruce's credit. He knew a good project when you read it and it was completely different for him to do and you know so it was. He did say to me. I need you on the set every day. And i said happy to be there. Yeah yeah. I mean nights wonderful director and made a great movie for years later seabiscuit. I think came with the director. Attach which isn't always the but this one was best picture nomination. Yeah i again. A wonderful script gary ross wrote you know we really just get attracted to stories and to the scripts i. It's just that we seem to like stuff that a lot of people and it's really about the story and in that case you you you couldn't make that story up. It was based on a true story and a wonderful book written by laura hill degrom and And gary wonderful director so again. A great project we we dove into the world of horse racing and spent time in kentucky. And you know just had our wonderful time making that movie so one that i know was a piece for you guys to technically deal with and put together and just a huge scale thing was benjamin button which is two thousand eight ends up another very acclaimed and recognize movie. But it wasn't easy getting there with that one right now. We had that one for quite a while and actually It was a case of technology catching up with with the movie. And it had had several iterations and several scripts and and to be honest. I think several directors until david fincher read eric. Ross script and again. It was the script that that got that movie made and then david was faced with a challenge. A he said. I want to be one actor and because up to that time we had because of the the the huge age range in the character we were passing two or three different actors to be the different ages of benjamin and david wanted to be one actor. And that's what he sold. Brad pitt on is this is always going to be you no matter what age it is and then of course his challenge in which he loves was how do we do the visual effects and he you know coming from. Lyle am kind of amazing. People don't know he started iom that he he put this sort of off the shelf package of how to do the aging and the de aging So again a just an incredible story that you know Dan was complicated by. We're shooting in new orleans when katrina hit. And so you know of course studio want to go somewhere else but we had committed and we felt that it was important to for the comeback of the city to go back and shoot there although there was no infrastructure. But we got the movie made. And i think it really being there adds to the. The movie becomes a character in the movie. That that town. I think maybe the the franchise that you have actually done the most installments of and add cute. Success with is the borne franchise which you've been with from the start and matt damon has said quote. Had it not been for. Frank we never would have had a franchise close quote and i know that really started with truly with the first where you came on fairly late. You got a in that case progress. Doug linemen who's an indie guy thrown into the studio world for the first time on a huge budget like this and you had you had a lot to kind of. I mean that was just a random colleague. How far into the i into the first movie. Well i've been called earlier on it like six months before because the rightfully so the studio thought it was a big movie for doug and allie brecher called me and Said you know we think we need to create a producer and a production producer and they had the production producer which is was pat crowley but they wanted a creative producer. And you know it was at the time that they called me. We had two young kids. It meant going europe for six months. I didn't wanna do it. It was a hard movie but five months later. They got into trouble because the creative producer. His wife had some complications from her pregnancy and they left and went back to new york and so they needed a somebody step in right away and that time it was much more appealing to me. Because i didn't have to go away for six months every you know there was a place in paris. There's a house in paris for me and bring my family over over christmas and it you know it looked a lot better so then and you know and then the movie had a lot of ups and downs and i think the fact that i had already directed a couple of things by then helped me realize that there was a great movie there we just had to find it and so i you know i worked with everybody to find that movie and we went through nine eleven and there was a lot of challenges there too but we came out the other end with the bourne identity and then we went from there so i just wanna note that matt and people have your your being extra humble here but i mean that ending was not the original ending and it was later than almost ever that it was changed because you were able to make the case right and then we had green grass on this podcast saying similar things about the subsequent installments that with with something of that size and scale you could be a great producer but not necessarily be able to handle something of that scale yet. That's become. I guess through your through your earlier work something. That doesn't thrill you know. I had all this experience in europe. I had all this experience with action. Nothing phased me so you know the fact that we went to moscow. We actually shot a chase scene in moscow. That's a challenge that i want and and so it's really putting together the right pieces and going you know. We shot in shanghai in one thousand nine hundred eighty five on empire the sun. No one from the west had ever shot there and they may not have since we figured out how to do it. So i love those kind of challenges and in in born and working with mad. And tony. Orion and paul. You know the genre really struck me and the changing the genre and this character who doesn't want to be a sniper and a killer. It had an emotion to it wasn't just an action picture. It really had substance and again. The story really attracted me. And that's why. I love working on those movies. So one final pre of may you have i guess in in two thousand twelve almost a decade Since kathy took the job with lucasfilm. And i guess therefore was on hiatus from from kennedy marshall and you have been in that time since responsible for hugely successful but primarily sequels right. I mean we're looking at the bourne. Legacy and jason born looking at jurassic world biggest global opening of any movie ever up to that time Dresses world fallen kingdom than jurassic. world's cretaceous. Then you've just come through the pandemic with another. And so i guess i just wonder. Is that reflective of the nature of the business today that it's just harder to make none sequels remakes or adaptations of existing ip or. Is that now the kind of movie that you just personally gravitate towards. Well it's a little bit of both scott you know. Cathy was doing the drastic parks. And then when she took over lucasfilm. She couldn't do that anymore so she lateraled it to me and so it was an easy step in was stephen in the studio and So that's kind of how that happened. And then you know. I do like to to do only one big movie at a time. Although we're we're developing other different movies but not a giant tentpole movie like these movies. Take all your time and attention. Because they're so big and so that's kind of where these sequels have come from. And certainly i want to continue with the born movies as well. We're still looking at some some new stories that have been told before but I also talked to kathy dinner so you know we still talk about our movies. And so that's how all gets done. Okay so this is now the The main course. I've got to just ask you your love of music where it is that i know you you. Of course your father was an influence. You said you were interested in music growing up. But i mean. I've been to like covered. The oscar nominees luncheon and your dj so people may not realize the extent of your passion for music and knowledge about it including with something like the bg so pre this project. Just what was your relationship with music. Well i've played the guitar since i was like nine or eight. I don't remember. I played the trumpet. I but as i say i grew up in was music and there were guitars around my house. All the time and i was you know in groups in high school and college and i just love music. I loved listening to it. I love making it. I love playing it. And and so. And i made a lot of friends in the music business and i do think that if i hadn't gone into movies i would have gone into music so being able to bland. My two loves movies and music has been just really special in this with us. Renaissance now of of documentaries and particularly music documentaries been a really great and I've been able to take advantage of that and it was really just sort of a a walk down memory lane. That inadvertently led to a bj's doc all and by the way we should just want to reiterate forty plus years after he. You know it's not like this. Is your first rodeo with a music doc. Because again the last waltz is like the gold standard and here. We are now forty three years after that. Yeah i mean. I listened to give the credit du production line producer on the last walt. Things done anything to do with creating mardi and ravi in that group but yeah i love being a part of it. I love being up all night. Listening to the band and amy lou harris and you know in the staples and all the rest of them. So you know it's kinda not like work. It's so when i've been doing docs now for little over ten years kind of started back with. Espn thirty for thirty and then They've you know they've really come in. I you know they've they've really come into the forefront now because i think that people use to that documentaries were either going to be boring or educational or this and now they're seeing that. These docs are so exciting. And and can be so special in moving and and you know taking the places that had never been and so my first music. doc was Was with alex. Gibney who directed Sinatra right and again. That's because of people that i have known in the business who then came to me and said you know the sinatra's this hundredth anniversary and they wanna do a dock and and i had done the armstrong lie with alex and i i knew alex loved music to. He's a huge music lover. Even though he doesn't do many music docks so you know you just get the right people around. The docks are really about a collaboration a lot. It's a real team. Effort as opposed to feature. And you know what i love about them is. You don't know what you're going to do as as opposed to you know a feature movie when you know exactly what you're gonna do every day you've got a script you you've got a schedule you know every hour what you're shooting with the doc. It's it's freedom. It's constant discovery. It's trying this is trying that and a lot of it is really made in the cutting room. Which i love. The post process so being a director is really more of being a director with an editor or editors. And that's and then you have the support team that gives you the archival and he'd say well what about this and so it's a real team effort and i loved making the bg's because it started at capitol records was up on the top of of the building. It's just been refurbished and the new ceo. Steve barnett was there and he was. We were talking about the days. And i told them how. How would drive with my dad on the hollywood freeway. He'd say there's the building. I'm going to work in and guess what it looks like. I said i don't know it's a stack of forty five records and sure enough if you look at it. That's what it is absolutely you know we were talking about doing doctors now five years ago. So because the record companies and in this case You mg universal music group. They were looking for ways to reinvigorate catalogs. And they and steve said i just bought the bg's and i love the bg's meetig how about them that he said well. I've got a kind of a five year plan and in the plan is a documentary so berries coming out in a couple of weeks because they're doing a grammy tribute and so why don't i bring him over here and you'll meet and you guys can talk about it and so i came back two weeks later that wonderful office on the top of the capitol record building where i of grew up on the floor of studio a and i met berry and we really hit it off and you know. I shared the story about coming from a musical family. I'm the oldest. Like he is two brothers. Grew up with the guitars and music in the house. And you know that started this wonderful journey that i went on for four years. And this is your first time in fourteen years directing. Was it something you just sort of slipped right back into or is it a an adjustment. Well no i kind of you know storytelling and now with all the tools that we have and it wasn't about worrying about the schedule. It's as i said it's kind of free form way of making a movie. Where then i thought well. Who do i want to produce the movie for me to do those. Yeah i need done. And i had just seen the beatles eight days a week and i figured well. If there's somebody that can find beatles footage has never been seen. I want that guy. And it was nigel sinclair. And he has a wonderful company called white horse pictures and he brought with him. Genie elephant festa or co-producer and a wonderful writer and a mark monroe and the whole team there and they were my support and and That's why we have this. You know amazing movie so going into it. Was there one thing that you most hoped to learn. And was there then making it. One thing that you were most surprised to learn. Well i think what you've gotta do is is look for the heart of the story and for me. The heart of the story was family and songwriting. And yes the the music the start him and all that in the you know the amazing celebrity that had and all that but i was really interested in what how that happened. You know. Because i i had a family that was very musical when i was young too and their dream that they had in australia. That kind of tricky because their english and then they moved australian. They would back so we had to tell that really quickly. But i was interested in in how. What the genesis. And how they work together and how they sang together and how they wrote their songs and that really became the heart of the story. And i believe it's they stayed together and kept coming back together. In overcoming these obstacles is because they were a family and they had a great support parents. And you know that was really the key so that was the heart of the story for me so we wove the things around that. And and then i started discovering things like you know how sorry in october came together and how they created the drum loop and you know. Those are the golden nuggets. That are so wonderful. When you're making a doc that the things you don't know that you discover and then you make a right turn and then you have to decide that the job of the director okay. What do i want to recreate how to shoot the interview directing going on there but as i say the big part of it is is in the cutting and that was really fun last question. If you needed to convince a young person to check out the bg's music they're great you know it's not just it's not just the movie siren. I favor which song having now been immersed in this for years. Which song would you encourage them to listen to i. I'd say how deep is your love because it is a real love song and it was written as a love song and their songs touch your emotions they tell a story and from the heart and their harmonies their musicality anna and then the words are a really special so i would check out. How deep is your love. I can't thank you. Thank you so much. Frank really appreciate it and enjoy the right. Thank god well wednesday. Thanks very much for tuning into awards. Chatter we really appreciate you taking the time to do that and would really appreciate taking a minute. More to subscribe to our podcast on itunes or your podcasts out and to leave us a rating as well if you have any questions comments or concerns you can reach me via twitter at twitter dot com slash. Stop fiber and you can follow all my coverage between episodes at t. h. r. dot com slash the race until next time. Thanks for joining us.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Michael Wilbon and Eric Stonestreet (05-21-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Michael Wilbon and Eric Stonestreet (05-21-19)

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So we've done in our already. They do thirty minutes every day we do three hours. Now. Are we making fun of them are making fun of us with that line? Probably both one one unintentionally but yes partner up but they figured it out. Thirty minutes thirty minutes or less. You can get a piece in thirty minutes or less. Yes. This is actually like changing my whole outlook and thing like maybe we just do thirty minutes and people have figured out for sure. Thirty minutes. Yeah, maybe the audience would agree with that. Yeah. I think thirty minutes is just enough of you guys. Yes. Thanh people like bite size. Portions, that's the world we live in these days. Give it to me quick, and I'm getting out. I've got other things to do speaking firsthand experience. Oh, you mean like I just ramble on endless. No, no bite size portions. Oh, I have to work on last night. You went after those many hotdogs, I did. Those were pigs were, they big enough to be pigs in a blanket. They were small a little cocktail frocks had a little mustard on each one of them pre put on. There was really nice, and paulie was taken pictures. And of course, they're not normal pictures. We took a picture where I had to stand in front of Pauli Pauli, Ben took a picture. A selfie of Reese Davis in the balcony with his wife and it was just them. Everybody else's down on the floor and then re is up there with his wife, and then we thought, well, let's take a picture of that because then we realized that maybe Reese was in the no jerks section of the sports Emmys. And that's why it was just him and his wife last night, but Polly got a picture, then yeah, mclovin. Yeah, I saw Tom Verduci was standing on the same balcony was on the other side. And he's a definitely no jerk category. He'd probably one for like eight. Yeah. Yes. Maybe next year. We'll do our. Separate sports. Emmy awards for awards that really interesting like nicest, guy, nicest person in sports media, best hair because Verduci would be is up there for best in sports media. He's locked in. He's up there. Sneaky good go. And if you said, best persons force me, that'd be a good category for a show. Re status would certainly be up there skulls, Saul Scott van pelt last night. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a lot taller and person rangy. Yeah. Yeah. So Scott van pelt. Yes. Mclovin, but yeah wondering about this. Nicest guy, I've saved reece's the one seed. Yeah. Reese Davis would be a one-seat on nicest guys in the media. Yeah. I think, so now and after that it's about it. Yeah. There's only one nine three nine people in this industry last year was MLB tonight that beat us this this year. It was part of the interruption. Michael wilbon is kind enough to join us. I know he's busy probably prepping for his half hour pardon the interruption tonight. So you got to be exhausted. Michael joins us now. Good morning, Michael. Congratulations. Thank you, Dan. In that in that studio bit. No lot. No, not a little. And then we're saying, we've already done twice as much work in an hour as you've done. I mean, maybe not as good of work as you'll do on pardon the interruption tonight, but you're thirty minutes. We've already done an hour on this show. That's good. He moves on one show, some of us have more than one show, a, you know. All right. Right now, working NBA playoff things they were headed to shoot around maybe not. But I could put that out there. Did you celebrate last night? No, no. Oh, come on. New mike. There is great. You were there, Dan. No. I'm in Toronto. I will tell you this. I did go, I walked into a pub you know, restaurant bar, whatever here in Toronto, I was Gretzky's I should probably say that walked in the Griffey's here in Toronto and Charles Wade Barclay, and a group of people where they are watching a game and Charles proposed a toast, to like half the bar, and everybody toast it. And that was very kind of Charles has how many EMMY awards have, Dan. I have five seating. Okay. Joe's has got to have what eight or nine probably yeah, maybe. Yeah. Maybe so I thought it was great. Charles did that sit right up in the bar at that moment. I don't really know about an hour. I you know, look, you'll be well enough. I it's great. I, I am honored. I am thankful but I don't I don't pay attention to these things going in. I didn't even know the the wards dinner, whatever it is Bank with what formative, I didn't know that was last night. And I started my, my cell phone started just going to create these blew up and my first thought is please don't let this be a news story. And I got a, you know, to a studio. Thought how many is pardon the interruption have three that was only the third. The only able to have the three. Well, how did how did pardon the interruption start? Much appear. Oh, was doing sports century. And he, we were telling you that we're two of the panelists sports writers who were voting and all those people best athletes Beth is the best that of the twentieth century, as you would come and visit us at the Washington Post, Tony and me doing what we do now just across a hallway as we sat in our respective offices as you was really old now. But he was really young. He was late twenties. And he said, I remember him saying, you know, if I ever become anything at the network in terms of stature and decision making, I, I'm gonna put this on television and Tony was like, yeah. Right. You get me a Cup of coffee and shut up. Please and Shapiro once when he became somebody that could do this the first call. He called me. I was at the NBA finals in Los Angeles. So long ago that was finals in Los Angeles in two thousand one and he. We gotta have dinner tomorrow night. And I said, why they said because I've been named whatever the title is, you know czar programming. And my first duty is going to be put you guys on television. I said your second duties be fired, because this is not sound phallic sound thinking to me. And that's how I heard that Kornheiser almost didn't do it. When either one of both was almost didn't do it. I remember one day I was much closer to not doing it than Tony. Okay. All these all these stories tend to revolve around Tony because it's sexier and needs to more eccentric. But I, I was a place Tony being ten years older, he'd written the column, you done all that. He did it for a long time. He was he didn't want to didn't want to travel and go to games. And do the thing that columnists need to do back then, in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century and or I'm sorry, late twentieth early twenty first. So he he didn't wanna do that stuff. And I did. And so I don't wanna be in a studio every day, not going to games. And here I am in Toronto as we as we speak still do that, that was an assistance on my Bobby, but then we walked into a studio or newsroom, and there were people, there would move from Bristol and moved from places like why are you people here? And they said, well, we did a television show. We tend to start on, like Tober tenth, and we're like seriously. We haven't signed. Anything and he's one of had, and we were not pressed to do it. I don't want to sound ungrateful because again, I'm grateful, but we, you know, I had the dream job of my life back, then being accomplished for the Washington Post. And so that Tony, and so we were not, you know, moved that we had to do this immediately. And there were people that our lives who said, thankfully, shut up, and listen, this is going to be different Charles Joe's bar things, one of them, and they were sitting with Charles and he said, are you crazy? You know, you gotta do this. You guys get this is gonna be good. It's gonna matter. And there were people like that in both of our lives. And so we, we said, okay, maybe it's time to listen and shut up. Michael wilbon, pardon the interruption and in Toronto game four coming up tonight with the bucks and those rafters of the warriors ability to come back here and do it in four games. You don't have boogie. You don't have ego dolla, and you don't have Kevin Durant. That's pretty impressive to do it. And beat a good Portland team and do it, I think in three of the four games Mike. They were down by at least fifteen points. What do you make of this run by the warriors in, you know, I, I think it's an all time great run. I think it measures up to anything by saying, and I'm too young to see the end of the Russell, Celtics, very in remember the last championship, but not much more than that. But obviously we know the history of it and. Then, and obviously we're talking more teams more resources, you know, not every team as a pigeon waiting to be taken advantage of I read our back. But I mean the point we are now in a culture sport for the warriors to do this with all of their assets available is just stunning and to do it without Kevin Durant. And you can say okay, without believe cousins, too, but it's about Durant, man. And I understand they haven't beaten a great team yet in this run. But, you know, the Celtics didn't always be great teams in Russell's run every time they usually the be one at the end of often will Chamberlain on it. Whether it was a conference final final so men. I mean the reminded how great Steph curry is. I don't know why we needed to be reminded. We did most people did. And I was at the Houston series. I covered that theories and. You know game five when when when when goes out, I'm thinking, okay, there's no way they're gonna win game five. And of course they win game five and I'm and I thought the warriors could and perhaps would win game seven but to go to Houston and play that way. And I'm tired of dumping on Houston. And I decided this that night, you know, we don't up on Malone and Stockton. We don't dump on Patrick Ewing. We don't dump on Reggie Miller. You know, we don't dump on who am I leaving out from that great period of time where those guys all lost Jordan or lash, we don't dump on them. We don't they joked, we don't say they were gag Gaga's, and I'm not gonna say that about harden and Chris Paul, they're not as good as the warriors. That's what I'm prepared to say. The warriors are great. And these other teams are beating a really good really, really good, but they're not great like the warriors are great. And so I've now refocused and to me, it's time to credit those guys and get off of dumping on people for what they're not. What happened with the Lakers yesterday? I don't know. I swear Dan and, and the more people I talked to in here in Toronto. Everybody's here and last week, everybody was in Chicago, because the draft lottery, and then the combine and people were commuting to Milwaukee, if the whole industry sitting around and. Nobody had any answers. I mean, the smartest people, the people of longest tenure nobody had any answers. It's a myth as a mess and, and the surprise. Is there Beth but we've seen other great franchises become a mess? I mean notably the raiders at didn't happen all the time. It doesn't happen for this is six years. This is not just the downcycle. This is a mess. But like what happened? I mean it's a failure of a whole bunch of people and a failure of an institution to sort of keep people moving in the same direction. I mean, it's a lot of that. And I don't know how they get out of it like this is not just about going out signing a couple of free agents and putting them on the court. I don't believe that. So I, I think there's a bigger mess than that with the Lakers, and I don't know how to get fixed. Yeah. I was surprised magic when scorched earth with the franchise that he loves so much that you may not like rob Pelinka but you can't do that to the Lakers, and I know that he wants to entertain, and I take did a great job and asking the right questions. But I, I was disappointed. I was sad. When I, I was hearing, magic say what he he, he, he, I'm, you know, part of me was like, hey, it makes my job easier when he says, things like this, but then there's part of me. Of me that you wanna protect these icons from themselves sometimes and just say, you know, don't do that. Like you're bigger than rob Pelinka in. Oh, okay. Backstabbed. You all right? But you don't want you could have gone to Jeanie and said, look, you gotta make a decision here genie for the betterment of this franchise. We have to be on the same page, and we're not and, and whatever she decides that, but there's no leadership there, Mike. I think that's really when I might take away is I need a leader there. And you gotta get a leader in there pretty quickly. Back to one thing you said that I agree with you. I don't know that he didn't do that. I mean I it sounds like these things have been going on involving Pelinka to whatever degree. And magic it sounds like I mean that was that was going on when people weren't necessarily paying attention. And I don't know what conversations he had didn't have genie. But yeah, yeah, it's, it's impossible to skate that conclusion right now about what they don't have. And, and can Pelinka was in that position right now. Can he do that? Like like in talking again, talking to all these people in the industry and this now we're going to broaden this out and talking about agents and players and free agent people representing three ages like Jim Pelinka them. Can he lead the modest can lead them through summer, which is going to be the most tumultuous summer that the NBA perhaps as ever seen? It certainly could be wilder than two thousand ten and sixteen and the summers. What's okay do that? I believe that Jason Kidd, part of the reason why he was brought in. And this is there's a report that he was brought in to be an assistant head coach because of his relationship with the Greek freak that he could somehow Vince him in a couple of years. I don't even know if Jason Kidd's going to be in the position in a couple of years, but that, that you bring the Greek freak he's already said he doesn't like nail a and he doesn't like Miami doesn't like the big cities. He's comfortable there and you're going to possibly higher Jason Kidd because of his relationship with the Greek freak. Well, that listen, Dan, that's happened already. It happened a few some someone's go. I mean, part of the reason the wizards higher, Scott, Brooks's got to me approved himself as a good coach. You can hide Scott Brooks, having nothing to do with his previous stop, which was, of course, Oklahoma City. But part of the reason the wizards what five years. Thirty five million dollars was that he was going to get them in with Kevin Durant. Kevin durant. Didn't even meet with the wizards. So this. Like the Jay Z factor member when Jay z was part, owner of the nets, and it was like all people are gonna wanna play with Jay Z. Jay z factor. Nobody went to play for the nets because Jay z window. No, it didn't show Dan. How desperate people aren't to get that big star to get that one player disproportionately impacts the game tilts the board. It shows you that, that sport did the NBA more than any of those for you wouldn't do that. In pro football, you're not gonna do that. And we've seen teams win without doing that. In the NBA teams haven't won without getting that player except for like the two thousand four pistons, you know, had on samba without an all time, great player, you know, probably I mean, I guess almost certainly without a top fifty player, and I say that with apologies to Chauncey Billups who I love and love as a player. But the that pistons seen is like the only team that doesn't have that. Yeah. So, yes, people are willing to go to preposterous lengths to try and Gary. Not that they get the player who has the ultimate impact on a game. And now they look and projecting that onto it was one of those four or five. Mike. It's good to visit with you. Glad to see you're putting in a little extra work than just a half hour on pardon eruption and don't be afraid to mail it in this year, so we can win next. I mean give us a chance my ill. I just thought about the question you asked me earlier this quickly to about, you know, our high said, who influenced us, and who said, hey, stopped being your head and just thinking about writing a column and do the show even we're one of. I know you were one of them. The Dan Patrick is and his own the absence of another one on the mantle is if you need one you and I talked back then in in, you, I remember said are you crazy right way with mine, do my so, so we won the EMMY last night? We won the EMMY I'll, I'll put your name on it like the Stanley Cup doing so with that. I'm Mike, thank you. I appreciate that. All of a sudden, all of a sudden the day got a little brighter. Thank you again. Congratulations. I'm sure it made Mr Tony almost smile almost Dan, almost they that. Thank you. Mike. Michael wilbon. I remember I can tell you where I was at ESPN when Tony Kornheiser. Michael wilbon came in and they were just discussing starting part in the interruption and Chris Berman's office was in the corner of the second floor, and I remember well, okay, you go in first four second floor third floor, so. Above the newsroom, Berman's office Kornheiser. It makes the left with John Walsh from sports center. And all of a sudden, Tony goes, I have no idea while I'm here they want us to do a show. How crazy are they are they drunk and I said, you and wilpon just talking sports. We'll be great. And he goes, I do not see it, and he was so anti TV because, you know, Tony probably thought you know, he called all of his talking hairdos talking heads. And now you'd be you'd become a talking head and not a talking hairdo. We didn't have hair, but he was a talking head. And I think he was very nervous. There was trepidation about becoming one of us. But what him what he and Mike did is far surpassed. I think what Keith and I did on sportscenter, you know, we, we did something different what they do every single day, and they become the last word on sports. When you think about a show on the east coast that starts at five thirty and that becomes the final word that day in sports. And this is something that ESPN has acknowledged to me that they're trying to change just so people are still watching the SPN and sportscenter because there is another final word in that might be Scott van pelt show. But at five thirty so to thirty west coast time that could be the final word on sports because Mike and Tony said it that's really a powerful powerful brand and sustainability there. I don't know what happens when Tony decides to not do it anymore. Or if they both decide at the same time, you know, they Bella check in Brady they haven't had any controversy. Well Tony got suspended. I think one time but I don't I don't know if there's any real controversy there when he didn't he just talk about Hannah storms outfit or something. And he they sat him down for a little while. It's been a few. Yeah, it was just about our boots. I. But Mr Tony got sat down and but that's their that's their only controversy. There was no spy gate or anything like that. I don't think I don't know stuff may come out. Maybe we do a little deeper dive there. Maybe we find out the outside the lines get investigate them and then they would have one. Yeah. And then. Oh, yeah. Then outside the lines would win. They would work on vest investigation. Speaking of EMMY winners, Eric Stonestreet gonna couple of big deal. You know. So what he'll join us coming up next, and we'll talk to Dale Earnhardt junior junior. Won the Daytona a couple of times, I think. Yeah. And but he never won the driver of the year. Don't leave with that. He didn't want to Cup title. Yeah. You want a couple of daytona's. Okay, my rather have to Daytona five hundred and one Cup title. That's for the season title. Yeah. Daytona five hundred is is is there Super Bowl? I know polling. I guess. I guess I love when people who don't think you understand the sport. We'll go, you know, it's kind of like. I was wondering you. I know other players you're you're Super Bowl. Oh, okay. Now I can understand it now. I can relate to it, and they drive to left in a semicircle fashion. Well, we is, so that's not like my clock on the wall. Right. It's the opposite. Okay. You know what the idly, it's really not like the Super Bowl because it's just one race like every single other one. They have never you don't have to win your way into it like the Super Bowl, you have to win your way into a, you have to have a whole sustained period of excellence over the course of a season. They tone a five hundred you just have to show up and be good that day. What if you had the Super Bowl and you work your way back to the start of the regular season, you just had? And then you win like the season Cup. Yeah. Like, well, we didn't win the Super Bowl but we won the season competent. You go back, and then you'll go okay? Now we have to play this team in the AFC and you play that in the NFC and then you just keep working your way back. Yeah. Season cups. Do you have any while, but the ones who both go? But the season Cup we won like the Buffalo Bills were the AFC champions for such a long period of time. And they had nothing to show for it. It's that damn NFC the kept getting in the way. All right. We'll take a break here. By the way, the blazers expected to resign, Damian Lillard you guys want to guess here. Oh, you know what? I'll we'll take a break just to give you an idea here of how much money Damian Lillard is going to make. Twenty three after the hour back after this in the Dan Patrick show. I'm not going very far. 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Test drive today he is Eric Stonestreet. The actor for modern family is also in a movie, the secret life of pets, too. It's theaters June seventh modern family is coming to an end as the sitcoms has been renewed for an eleventh and final season. He's, he's won the EMMY he's been nominated for Golden Globe any kind enough to join us on the program higher. Yep. Pay, dan? Good to see sorry to be here on such dour day. Yeah. So you want a couple of these two two of them. Yeah, but, but I mean let's be honest, I do three hours live TV you do twenty two minutes. Twenty minutes I do about eight minutes. Yeah. If even then. Yeah. So you might be in a couple of scenes there. I'm in virtually every scene for three you are every seen the writing as you're going. I'm just delivering the words of other people. Yeah, they've come up with. But it's great. I loved win those two. I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah. I highly recommend. Yeah. You get the chance, which you haven't yet. For the show, I recommend you winning it. Did you give a speech? I did. I gave. I gave that speech. You like who you think I think my parents, and I told him I was gonna give it to them. And then it did. Okay. Yeah. Sincere. Did you keep the second cat, the second one, I have a second one way or is it when I walk into Eric Stonestreet mansion? Do I know window? I know what you do for a living when I walk into your house. That's a great question. Well, I mean. Winning trophy for what you do is slippery slope because, as you know, based on all this show that I've seen today, people desire to win Emmys, and when they don't they're not real super stoked about it. So my, my feeling is. I won this EMMY I have to display it somewhere, but not like in your face. Because if I don't, if I put it in the bathroom, the laundry room, that's disrespectful to other people that would gladly win that me like you guys. Yeah, you know. So I have it on my mantle in my on my living room. I never go into okay because it's a mentioned it is. It's not a bit who. Do you live? I might be impressed with. Oh, Kiefer Sutherland neighbor across the street. Yep. Have you been invited to parties over there? Yeah. I just was over there. He walked by my house, and we happen to be out and he was, like come by leaving town. I'm never in town combined have have a drink. So I was like, Kiefer Sutherland might you over to have a cocktail you go. Did you bring your Emmys? Yep. Well. He's got him to. Yeah. We got those the coolest thing where I live in LA is to Luca lake and it's just an old school neighborhood. But across the street from me is the original property that ROY Walt Disney owned and started selling off to finance Walt Disney studios. Anyway. Cool story. I know. Yeah, anybody else. Interesting around you. Let's see. The Disney story didn't really. It's interesting to me, because I worked for ABC who's owned by Disney and right across the street is yeah. Wow. Yeah. So any interesting people besides Kiefer Sutherland McCarthy, Steve crow oh Tricia, Heaton. Oh, Octavia Spencer. What do you want me to do you keep going? No, it's pretty pretty good. Yeah. J my neighbor. Jay Goldberg oak. Great guy. Yeah. Jane Trudy is Matt Walsh, in your Matt Welsh is in my thought so have you been over to Matt's house? No yet been invite me. But he just told me where he lives come over into your last week. He's a great guy. He's a he's a great guy. Have you guys ever had a material on modern family? Where you said we can't do that. Kyw Bosch because it's network TV. Yeah. Well, we've shot things that didn't make the cut because standards and practices probably jumped in and said, no, thank you know, at the time, yeah, it's pretty crazy. They had I can't remember the, the perspective of like how fit, but it was a flashback of me dressed full on native American crying, member, the commercial native American cried because littering it was a, you know. You know. To that. But at some point, they realize like probably shouldn't do that it got cut out the soda, did you agree? Yeah. Because everybody's gets canceled. You know, so you got to. Got a doubt of the, the, the mob the culture, you know, the when did you guys know you're successful. I would say, I knew when Ed O'Neill called me and said, if the show's not on for ten years, I don't know what the home doing in this business. I trusted he would know that. So I knew we were had a good shot. And then once we got nominated for him is that first year in one. All of them. This is awkward. This is really a year on a bad day. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. Let me let me celebrate your celebrates. I mean I really had. Makes me unhappy. I'm really cover you so much. You're the best at what you so happy for you. I really am. I, I really am happy for. Happy. You got a couple breaks here. Any who? Yeah, I could tell that Disney story again. Yeah, that killed last time really brought down when you do. So you're in the, the animated, the secret life of pets, too. But I saw where Harrison Ford is, is okay. Do you do you get to see Harrison Ford? No, no know. Okay. But we don't get to see each other in the bowl. You don't know. We're not. We're never in the booth got. Yeah. Is that how hard is that? You do it every day. Talk to, you know, you have these people to talk to, but you're also sensually or answering talking and answering your question. Yes regularly, but you got to you have to garner, you know, muster up emotion to in certain situations for the role, don't you sometimes? And you have to do it in weird, like you have to grunt, emotionally, you know, or whatever it is like sad. You have to eat sad. Or what those are the hard things in which your character, Duke, Duke Duke, the dog because a big dog in then in your mind you become a dog. Yeah, I think so. I think once I got the part, I immediately was just, you know, thinking that way for sure. You know you just kinda start to lift your leg and yeah, just walk by writer. Feel like yeah. Yeah, I like that. What are you going to do after honor families to man? I don't know. But I I love what you do. I'm not I told you before when I'm with you before that. I I love. Just chatting about stuff and having, you know, good time talking about things that I'm interested in. So this area is definitely something should I have no idea what people are gonna want me to do, like maybe they'll just be tired of me. Which I'm okay, it's only twenty two minutes week eight for. Again. I don't correct them about eight minutes per you think you could do three hours each day where you just chop things I'd need help. Yeah. Because it it's people always say all, what a luxury to do three hours and then they get about seventeen minutes in it. And they go oh my God. The hardest thing I was just saying back, there would be for me coming off, like a family show, is to find, you know, the, the courage to be opinionated and say what I really want to say because you, you get you get to do that. And I know that sometimes that gets everybody, you know, so I admire I admire that, and it was one of the harder things even though I had strong opinions, I when I did sportscenter might job was not to give pins my job was just to give you the highlights and do stories. And then you do this, then you have to have an opinion in the dangerous part is people feel like you have to have a hot take on every. Yeah. And they're times when I go, I'd like to do a little homework on this. And like to do a little research. I'm not comfortable saying this is how I feel now my initial reaction which is subject to change is this. But a lot of guys get out in front of something. And then they have to walk it back. Yeah. I mean you're a you're a journalist like, you know. So it makes sense that you would want to, like take a look at things and decide what, what, what your opinion is before your put on it. And then roasted for it, you know. Who would you have is your co host? Oh, anybody? I don't. I see. I don't know what the format of my, what if I had a show like this, what, what it would be because I would wanna talk about a range of topics, not just sports because again, I'm not as knowledgeable with all sports is I would need to be mad Walsh. Might be pretty good that Matt Matt's. Great, I would need somebody just to, you know, somebody funny funnier than me, you know, which shouldn't be hard to find, but somebody that would would challenge me. I'm having a hard time with this microphone. I can't put my arm. I know I know. My host would be. We win an EMMY, we're going to get a better care. Better better better chair. I was also going to ask you what the Kansas City Chiefs. Go ahead. Yes. So sorry about what about sorry about what? Sorry you guys you guys law. Oh, well, yes. Last year, we look to the future. Okay. But if I said, you could give up your Emmys and the chiefs get the ball in overtime you. Oh, you got to give up your Emmys. You just get the ball in overtime. Okay. There's a very distinct clarification. They need to make do I give up the honor of winning an EMMY or just the trophy, you give up the trophies. Oh, up trophies for the ball and overtime. Okay. Trophies trophies. Okay. You give up the honor of having going on stage. Yeah. Probably wouldn't do that because I believe in Patrick Mahomes, and I believe we're going to do it again. So I think I think we will rewrite that many times in the foul painful was that hasty for it. It was really, really painful. It was really. Yeah. Yeah. Acting right now. No, no. It was painful now. You know how I felt last night. No. That's how much it hurtling. Oh, yeah. See. No. I don't believe that for a minute. You have the exact right? Attitude on the semi stuff. How does do wasn't Eric? We went out to dinner last night, and Dan sat there staring at his plate for two hours in seat. Nine the other guys, we're trying to make pithy jokes to keep the mood up and they're playing like sad bastard music at the restaurant, it was a disaster. Gosh, dan. Yeah. I really feel bad for kind of making fun of you. Now. Yeah, we'll hey, listen. You know what I fit into modern family like where would I fit in if I was in modern family wanted jase friends at the club? Well, I'd like to get into house. Yeah. But will you come over for maybe visit? But just be jas friend, whatever girlfriend. Sure wife, probably why you'd have a wife or something like that. Have you tried to get Mahomes on the show? No, I haven't tried to get Mahomes on the show. We had George Brett, they wrote apart for George bread. And did you play a role in getting George Brown? I texted him and said, hey, do you wanna be on family? I mean, and he wrote back. Let me check my schedule. And then he wrote back immediately. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah. He was Superstock to be there. But Patrick Mahomes on monitors would have to I mean, it would have to be story generated. But I I mean I would love for Patrick Mahomes, be on. But his time is just starting my, my little run on modern family is over. How exciting like can we discuss the chiefs for just I don't think I think Mike Bullard kind of overrating chiefs this year for real. Yeah. I love this. Do you wanna talk? I'm worried about tyreek hill. I I'm worried about the running back situation. Okay. You got a great tight end. But I don't know how good the defensive us bags. They're young new defense have made a lot. I'm just we're, we're better than last year because let me tell you tire. Matthew playing is better than air berry, not playing okay? If the patriots played the chiefs right now. We would win in New England we oh, okay. Well. Okay. I don't even think you're better than the chargers. Wow. I, I'm glad he didn't win the. Yeah. No. But this is how I get nominated yummy with takes like that. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're I think you're wrong. I think that she's we, we have improved our team so much. You wanna bet you and I, personally, we can say on the air what? Dan gets extra role modern family or you get the host this show. Well, I mean, got you got come on. You've won a couple Emmy's. Yeah. But I can't promise. Anything on my show. It's your showed. I'm an actor. So I do have an IMDB, but I wouldn't feel comfortable, having Dan, Patrick on modern family with no lines, and I can't promise you lines on network television shows, great as you are. Being on what about cash? How about how about dinner? Okay. Yeah. I mean, that'd be an honor. With you. But I roll really deep because if, if, if you bring me then it's, you know, the, the place Haller Africa, you know, that place five guys that's not the restaurant, I'm talking about here. These are the five guys right here we go to dinner. Now, if you wanna bring somebody. Yeah. You can if, if, if I lose the I think it would be amazing right now to make a bet that if what are we betting first of all the chiefs beat the chargers who is who goes farther. Chiefs wind. That she chargers Chaves, okay? I got the chargers going farther for a role on modern family, and then whoever picks up you in modern failing again. Okay. My just want to be part of a winner for change. Yeah. Well, we're we're has been they don't they like the shiny stuff man. We're in our eleven maybe since you're bringing for people, Eric, you can bring bring like lake bell. And okay. Inappropriate. All of your other whatever's, he's asking me to bring a married woman to dinner, Kevin Hart. I'm saying like other cast members I'm not saying on the lines of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and then they can stare at you the whole game. Okay. Hold dinner. All right. And be like good. Good, good, take, Dan. Way to go. Dan? That was awesome. Dan? I wish you a lot of luck and success. Eric in the secret life of pets, too. No. I don't. All right, June seventh. But I do love modern family. Why we appreciate that. I do modern family. I think it's, it's, it's. You know when you look at something that lasts that long. But involves and then you have different characters and they, they allow you all. I think that that's great. Didn't stay with a one trick with. No. They're always, so many great stories coming up with new stuff and doing different things. And I think the our, our final season will we're not there's not gonna be any petitions to read, no Denault dying, nobody dies. I don't I don't think we can kill anybody. We got to stay away from that. The, the movie he's reprising his role as the Duke secret life of pets, too. He's Eric Stonestreet. He's won a couple of Emmys, and it's the eleventh and final season of modern family, we are back after this on the Dan Patrick show. The summer is heating up, which means that football season is just around the corner. I think that that's ridiculous. Joined Ross Tucker as he gears up for another exciting season and speculates on what you should expect. They know that part of their job is to be a mentor to a young quarterback. They know that download new episodes of the Rostker podcast and more presented by that online every week on apple podcasts and podcast. One sports net. Stay tuned for sixty seconds of AP news headlines, right after this podcast. Oh man. That was fun. Good a little back and forth there. And I wish we could say what he said is he was leaving Eric Stonestreet. That was very funny. Very funny. I don't know if the five us ever laughed that hard. I I, I was I was I was giving it to him. I was going back and forth with him. I don't know why I really like him. I just thought you know, we just got into that I'm gonna I'm gonna poke you can analyze this one, I minored in psychology I think you're upset about last night. And then Stonestreet walks in. He is nothing but a nice guy. He's extremely talented and successful. And, and you're like I'm gonna even I wanna make this guy of set. Yeah. But I'm happy for people who do will course I am. It's fun to jab a little with the chiefs. Typical Lloyd sent a tweet don't beat yourself up DP. I mean Tom Brady still has at one patriot of the week. It could be worse. He's right. I mean I get that. Oh, I was going to mention the blazers are expected to agree to a supermax extension this off season. For Damian Lillard guys wanna take guests. It's four years. One hundred ninety one million dollars for Damian Lillard blazers fifty million a year just about that allowed. That's the supermax that's super that is the supermax four years. One hundred ninety one million that's on. Thank you. Todd. Thank you. 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Episode 40: Chess Brodnick Interior Abstractions of Life

"I'm really excited about our new segment on the show. Yes a new segment and today is the day to be included for the first time and there will be many more after that. Considering we've had some pretty amazing gas. This is going to be a great addition. You bet a by the way. I see we have a guest in our podcast studio today. Yes she's a little furry though and her name is lucy. The see the dog. Yes thank you for joining us nine. Hi everyone and here. We are celebrating. What people love to do creatively by giving them a voice. I'm rod jones. i'm nj jones. Welcome to the thought. Rose show we invite you to subscribe wherever you listen and check us out on thought row. Podcasts dot com there. You can also listen to episode so you don't have to go somewhere else in. It's right on our website. Yes also we would love to hear from you and don't be shy. You can always reach us through the websites contact page and let us know your thoughts. Yes that's why our show is called. Dot ro podcast because we would love to hear your thoughts before i ask you to share your quote yes. Let's reduce our new segment and it's called. What are they up to now. Gary excitement to now. And i'll tell you what it's about everybody each week we're going to find one of our previous guests and let you know what they've been up to since you've been on the podcast and today we're going to start with madison. Marie macintosh a soprano mezro soprano opera singer. And she tells what she's been up to since we last chatted with her well. Our past guests madison. Marie macintosh will be performing the role of rouge arrow. In all cena's revamped with alter ego chamber opera is a company that creates performances in new ways that are relatable raw experimental and intimate in order to connect with new audiences and it changes the ways in which opera can be experienced. This modernized version of han. Dole's sina an english language. Libretto by ali's francesca rosny way. And i hope i'm saying her nickname correctly. Regret a tough one. Okay i so. It will be presented as part of the philadelphia fringe festival on september. Twenty fourth and twenty six at the adrian theatre later this season. Madison will sing the title role of rossini's cinderella with fargo moorhead opera. All wonderful. yeah. But if you don't miss this performance of your if you're anywhere near where you can see these performances by all means you should and i have to say madison. Deathly lives a creative life. He does and so what else is better slept to. Yes not only. Does she have that going on but she has also beginning a musical collaboration with great team. And that is a florida based nonprofit that strives to eliminate. ptsd related veteran suicides. It's called voices of valiant and they will select composers to set poems written by patrons Madison recently premiered the first song of the o. v. And its name is. It's only when. I close my eyes by poet. William j. toll and composer and pianist gary coda and a concert at great team veterans and composers. Who are interested in finding out. More information can lis- visit not listen. That visit voices of the valiant dot. Org you know. Madison has definitely been creatively. Yes she had a lot of respect for her and as a veteran myself. I really appreciate how. She's working with voices of the valiant. yes and congratulations. To her honor. Roll eh cinderella. Yes better that'll be so much fun for her now. Okay so del. Let's hear your quote in okay. So my quote this week. This episode is nothing can make our life or the lives of others more beautiful than perpetual kindness and that quote is by lael tolstoy. It's interesting to me. How many of the people that we've interviewed on our show are perpetually the perpetuating perpetually perpetuating waiting kindness. Yes they are. they're they're always giving. And i and i think that's why they received so much in return while i know the surly a been kind to us on our show by making themselves available to be interviewed and they've been very supportive so we greatly appreciate that for non brennan. Well now. it's going to be your turn. Ron were ready for rods motivational moments while more. Wellink assis- motivational. When you wake up in the morning to start our day your day our day. Yeah you generally set the stage for how it's going to be. You may want to adjust your attitude. Accordingly boy isn't that the truth. If you know if you wake up on the you know the wrong side of that proverbial rump. Say the wrong side of the bed. I mean it really does affect your whole day. A lot of you could wake up with a headache. That always difficult or allergies which are really difficult right. Like you said taking allergy station. That's the worst. You're running late for work or trying to get the kids off to school. Or they're being difficult or you in a serial you have to go to your hampered oppo something you should have watched a week earlier so you have something to wear but you don't you made to come in also about paying it forward. Oh when we were talking earlier. That's so true. I think that you know if you're paying it forward with kindness. There's just so much out there of kindness to give and receive and it's like when people are doing the starbucks line where you're paying for the guy behind you and it keeps on going. I know they're in around. Our area. people tend to do that a lot. And i know that puts a smile on. Someone's face but some in a good mood and makes them feel loved and there's nothing better if you're not familiar with The pay it forward gogel it. That's really an interesting concept. It's been around for several years. But so many people practice that i mean i've been exposed to a myself. I mean i've actually been in a line. And then i get up to pay for my stuff and the server says. Hey you don't have to pay for this to go. Yeah was my lucky day. They go no the person before you pay for it and they go well then. I better pay for the person behind me right. Yeah well speaking while we're on the subject of having a good or great attitude in life let's bring on our guest. Okay yeah today. We're going to be speaking with chess. Broad neck and he's a psychotherapist and an artist and both of those talents require creative strength in his case he is really creative and definitely strong. Yes chess welcomed the thought row. Podcast we know. Our listeners are going to be a really fascinating out. Your creative background is very interesting. Yes hi chances so good to have you with us today. Well hello. it's great to be here. I'm really excited about talking about this. It's a it's a subject. I got a great deal of interest in. So let's go before we officially get started with the interview. We always ask our gas what they had for breakfast now. I realize that we're actually doing this interview in the afternoon so you have to remember back to morning. Well that'll be easy because we we were on our sixty hour fast today. So i had nothing for breakfast. Only intermittent fasting. Yeah we we do it three days a week okay. How does that work for you. Do you find you have energy. Yeah that's fine. Yeah it works. Fine cool okay. Very curious about that. Well we're gonna start with this. You're an artist and a psychotherapist but before we get into what that actually means and discuss it. Tell us a little bit about your background where you're from. Where did you grow up. You know all the other details stuff. Sure right now. I live in. We live into luca. Lake california a suburb of los angeles near hollywood. I grew up for fourteen years and the outskirts of buffalo new york in a small working class area. Close to a lotta farms in the woods which in lakes and streams which was great. Nice certainly in those days. You know there weren't with no this helicopter parenting. We used to just go out and my parents would see me for lunch. They'd see me for dinner and bedtime and that was it. I was outside. All the rest of the time wasn't wonderful. I mean i know it was time for dinner. My dad for whatever. Reason had a very powerful whistle and he would go out and just put his two fingers in his mouth. Hover people do that and then all the kids in the neighborhood go. Oh it's time for rod to go home for dinner time too. So that's great that guts growth. That way yeah definite way so. I had a lot of fun interests. Lots of imaginative stuff. And i think it was an. I'll get into that when you ask me a few other questions but it had to do with my family background in place with safety to go to to go to internally which was pretty crucial for me and crucial later as a therapist and is an artist. I love movies. I used to love to go to watch science. Fiction movies sleepover with my friends. Outside all the time. I used to do a little bit of drawing but not a lot. I had a a fair hand so i would sort of push that but i was busy with action. I was doing things more than reading or or anything else. That's boys do kinetic. I guess yeah right yeah quo. Along the way. I it sounds at some point. You made the decision to become a psychotherapist and an artist. Right the star wars y you decide to become a psychotherapist. Interesting thing is. I think the seeds for being a psychotherapist were set or sewn when i was two or three years of age and that sounds odd. But let me explain. My family was In a lot of turmoil my parents thought tremendously and he fought violently. And i was really able to at a very early age. Look at their faces. Listen to their voices and their body language and see vice were about to develop and that was important because sometimes i had the role of sort of getting in the way and stopping it so my sense were honed at a pretty early age and that stuck with me so you can walk into a room and i can read it and can look at people surely quickly and sort of see what they're feeling and see what they're thinking it's sometimes it's great for my profession but sometimes it's a curse because you don't want to see a lot of this thing exactly so you know and then later my mother would take me and i was confident. She told me all the problems with my father. I became a good list. There and i could do that with friends. How it came to be that it morphed into an interest in psychology was senior year. I had a wonderful english professor In my senior year and it was all literature literature base and we studied all kinds of great literature and macbeth came up and we had to read macbeth and he thought it would be fun. Because there's a lot of psychological stuff like lady macbeth handwashing except compulsive disorder and macbeth's inability to act. He thought you know this would be fun. If we looked at this from a freudian perspective and i really never heard of it before but he's sort of outlined as and we had to do a paper on that and we also had illustrate the paper. So i had a blast. Just you know analyzing the bath. When it came time to go to college. I was not very academically oriented and had not a lot of interest in that thing. But i was going to go to college. No doubt about it. So i picked my major psychologist. Oh that'd be fun. So that's how psychology came into play as i began to study it though. I was really sort of intrigued with the more dramatic aspects of it. In the more out. There edgy kinds of things. A lot of my activities have always been sort of going to the edge and there's a place there when you're out in an edge where you have to focus really focus very strongly and that to me is worth sort of creativity comes in and you can hone it there. So as i was going along the very dramatic psychoses and emotive kinds of disorders really became interesting to me. And that's what i began to focus on and that's what my career is made of treating people with very severe mental illness. It's an interesting path that you had taken especially when you consider how you grew up and the relationship that you had with your parents i think during that period of time there were a lot of parents out there that did argue a lot and i know it just seemed to be. Maybe it's because they were both working. They both have jobs and they won't dealing with other issues then. Unfortunately i think the children are the ones that in your case you turn it into a positive thing and and unfortunately i don't need to tell you this there's probably been millions of children that have been affected by that that they carry those scars with throughout their life. I suspect some of the patients that you have to deal with probably came from a similar background as yours. Sometimes yes and all those things that you can see that as as yeah it was not not fun growing up it was painful but boy it really honed. A love of things with it allowed me to go deep inside myself and find a place of safety and fantasy. Was that place. So while i'm watching all this stuff erupt i'm going deep into myself to protect myself emotionally from all this stuff and that's an important thing When you're doing therapy too because you have to be involved. But you have to have a sort of a pullback you have to have a sense of detachment so you. Don't overreact and you don't do things that are dangerous to yourself or the client place right in your own soul and psyche leah to detach detach tough. Yeah two detached and involved at the same time and again all the fun activities that i was interested growing pets. Same quality walking out on an edge having this focus being in control of your emotions and acting. I mean being able to act and do something It y was part and parcel. That i think kind of saved me from a lot of difficult. Well apparently is your destiny. Exactly really was but before we get into your work as a portrait artists. I what kind of people do you treat in your psychotherapy. We treat people with severe mental illness know their words diagnoses of schizophrenia manic depressive bipolar severe depression things of that nature sometimes some people with asperger's and some other things but these are the people who have been spent most of their adult lives in state hospitals. They've been locked away and forgotten about their. This is the most difficult and the population. What we can't do or people who are serious. Leave violent because we treat these people in an open setting. They're not locked up when they come to us. So we do. Is we bring them out of these restricted environments. Put them in an open setting work with them on a daily basis. And we've got a great staff to do that and help to get them to understand their symptoms. There's no cure for this. Unfortunately but we can help them to manage their symptoms to lead better and more productive lives and we integrate them back out into the community. We take them right out into the community to have all kinds of activities and and work with them as they're going along with that so it's pretty interesting and it really works. We've made a difference in a lot of lives. We don't have success all the time but a lot of a lot of success. But you mentioned as you're growing up pugh when internally you had this safe place at you rationalized what was going on on the outside world but also may be to a degree and built ear own and wanna use word fantasy but your own self awareness. Let's use that your own self awareness self awareness but fantasy too. Because while i was aware of myself. I needed a place to get away from the stuff shrill while it's happening you. I'm turning myself into tarzan or or You know some space person or you know whatever it was just to sort of get away from that total intensity at the moment while it's going on so and that was That allowed me to t to get a focus and a healthy focus to be able to focus something and then they will use it to act to help in the situation to get in the way of my parents. Because if i'm tarzan i can do this sort of thing. I can get in the way of my father when he's trying to hit my mother and and that sort of thing so that was it also is. You're sharing those experiences with this. It seems to me that that was the birth of your creativity because our discussion with you is going to be about your art in your in how you ended up with your art. But it's pretty interesting that that you you're exploring a your imagination at a very young age and that imagination has carried you forward. I know both engine. I've had the opportu- sear provocative art andrew portraits and. I'd like to know what you find so fascinating about painting or drawing people's faces. I have to tell people that we will talk about this later. Because we want people to see your art. I when i first discovered i was amazed. It's very intriguing. But you seem to focus on people's faces you tell us a little bit about that. Yeah it's an interesting story to my earliest memory. I have memories visual memories going back to probably two to three months of age. I remember at my. I'm in a no no verbal attached to this at my grandmother's house in a preemptive later. And i'm looking up and i can see the pictures on her wall. He's photographs and i see two faces coming in over. I'm assuming i don't know who they are. I'm assuming there and an uncle in there looking at me and that's my first memory in visual and faces so i mean that's stuck with me and then needing to see. My parents faces when they were doing these things to be able to read them to sense when these fights are coming up. The face became pretty intriguing to me and it really shows you know what's going on with the person so it's also difficult thing to to paint her to draw to get all the proportions right and i like difficulty so i think it was just a natural for me to be drawn to face that i could really do something with the face and really show knee and and basically what a lot of life experiences about by by focusing on a face and a portrait. We don't need to tell you this. There's what more muscles in a human face than anywhere else and when the expressions could be. What's the word juxtaposed juxtaposed into so many different happy sad mean also like nuances like when we watch some of the older movies where you see like twenty different expressions in one little actress or an actor. That's really telling exactly. And that's fascinating to me. And i love to watch movies and i love to do that Look at the actress motivation. Look at to see what the subtext is. I've been doing that all my life with people and it's so interesting to see it and then i wanna portrayed i want to draw i wanna paint it. I wanna i wanna put it down because it really moves me. And so i wanna take that change it up inside me and put it out in a new way. That's interesting i b we. We recently saw this small documentary on the silent movies and those actors and actresses Had to do everything by facial expressions conveying everything. And it's interesting. At least i see a strong correlation between your art and juror psychotherapy and the fact the way you grew up in how you witnessed people's expressions change and she. I knew you have a question to follow. Put this one you know. How did you end up focusing on making portraits of yourself and like rod said. I think some of them can be disturbing. But i know that you know given your history that there is a story behind this absolutely i originally i. I've been interested in our for a long time. I went through various phases and for a long time. I was doing a lot of photo realism things and then my business went through some slumps. And i had to sort of back away from art and i got into some other activities things that were fun. When i came back to art i was like. I don't wanna copy photographs. I wanna learn to draw and paint from life. And so what i did and i wasn't terribly skilled doing that so what i did was for two years. I sat down in front of a mirror. And i did nothing but drama. I face not in any strange way but with all these different draw from the side from up from down from many many different angles views. And i did that for two years and to develop my skills and one day i thought you know. Okay you can draw this now. What am i going to do with us. You know i could pay portrait's and stuff but it wasn't capturing it wasn't interesting so i played i. I took my drawing pad. And i drew my eye on a slash. I do something else. Think wow what's this and that was it. I mean the spark hit me and it was like okay. There's a mine here that that just has a never ending source to it. So that was ed. We sort of a flash of inspiration to make this change after. Just mundanely drawing my face for two years. Well that is. It'd be not very many artists. Have that kind of commitment and painting. The human face is one of the most difficult things to capture. There've been some incredibly great portrait artists and been corporate artists that have taken the human face and converted some of the most bizarre ways. Your stuff stands on its own. I have to say you know. You commented about artists psychology psychological images. And how the emergence startling ways could you share with us your thoughts on that. Well i think it was talking about myself. But i think other people as well. I think that when you anytime. When i look at somebody's art there usually doing a self portrait. No matter what it is. it's a landscaper. An abstract basically painting themselves and so when people are doing you take a look at a rembrandt for example you look at his portrait's. He's painting the lightness there. But you can see if you look at his self fortunate you can see transposition from his. Is his subjects is. There's that light in both of them. So he's basically you painting himself in this likeness of another person and that psychological. You're projecting yourself onto this and you can't help. It is an artist and that to me is really interesting. Is that something that you learned along the way or is that part of observations. Something you all your own thoughts from your profession. Oh from me. it's observation. I mean in my interest in art. I've spent god countless hours in museums. And i have a incredible library of artists books inside. Pour over these images and i look for these connections because i want to learn and i want to learn from the best so i try to not just look at how. They've painted user brushstrokes us. There is but what they did with their minds to come up with what they did. Try to follow that thought process When when you read their life stories the they've had a lot of had their own issues growing up or and it has impacted their art or it was a way to escape And i think there's artists out there that use creativity in general as a way to escape the everyday toils of life right absolutely absolutely. Yeah it's a place that i love to live. Creativity is is. It's a life force for me. And i and i can't not have it in my life in. If server or madurai there has to be creativity there are. It's just not interested. That's why we knew you would be a perfect guest on our podcast exactly. So we're gonna say. I'm just going to say and i seen your art both realism and abstraction. Is there a reason why you create this way. Well absolutely first of all the realism is going to give a sort of a base. A touchstone where people can relate to realistically but the abstraction is where you can take something and push it to the edge and sometimes push over the edge and that to me is is what's really interesting. I liked the best. You can bend the rules with abstraction you can throw the rules out and create your own you you can take to a place. That's just you goes deep as you wanna go and that just turns me out. And that's what i wanna do. And that's what i'm trying to do with my work to make an impact that has a realistic Message to it but is abstract in the sense that i'm taking some place you haven't been before and let's go there you know i. Oh often say it. When people make a comment about my art. I always say it's experimental every single thing that i paint and i'm sure that's the same for you. I know it's the same for angie and the same for you. Chess that everything. That you've created artistically. Just been an experiment. Oh absolutely absolutely. It's play you know it's it's more of an experiment. It's play down and when when i sit down and i sometimes i'll have a clear image my mind of what i wanna do and what i want to say many times they don't and i'll generally start with an i and that i will tell me something. It's got a different expression each time and my emotions and stuff before. I want to go with it. We'll sort of dictate. Then it'll it'll tell me. Do i want to put the no straight on. Do i want to bend the knows. What do i want to do on a fracture. This and i'll start to draw a line to do that. And that line is the play. And that tells me the direction of where it's going to go and one thing suggests another and then i've got this whole intriguing thing that asked tied together necessarily fun park. That's where the abstraction comes in. That's where the flow of lying and shade and form come together and it surprises me sometimes and Know always comes out in an interesting way and so it's play excellent. Yeah yeah. I'm gonna ask you a question that i hate to ask people. I hate it when people ask me this question but when we chatted before we did this podcast. We talked about a couple of different artists in. I made a reference to one in particular that to some degree or is a little bit like this particular artists. Answer any artist that you feel has helped you in the way you've developed your style or have you really come to your own terms with your style. Well i've come to my own terms. But i've stolen a lot and i think all artists do that. I've stolen directly during influenced much by francis bacon and picasso's work especially as work around that time that he he painted guaranic with the juxtaposition of the faces and things of that sort but every other artists. You know vermeer rembrandt goya all these people. I steal from i steal their their compositions and unabashed saying that. I think but what happens is gets nixed into me and it comes out as me so you can see the references and you can see references from bacon to picasso but then they can became himself and imitating picasso originally and kind of what i've done and i think a lot of artists stealing when you do that chess. I think i don't think you are. And i'll tell you why because you are making it your unique style. I mean i've seen people you know when you look on instagram. I'm sure you have to where they just take it like dictation. They'll just flat out make it exactly like the cost. Were exactly the pirates you. It's kinda cool because you're taking it and you're getting inspired and then you make an evolution for your own style so that's really cool. It's part of our education education cool. We have these people have inspired me. And then i jumped with it but i i see i have only jump into myself. You know and it's if if i wasn't doing it from me i wouldn't be interested in it and i'd be bored with it and i wouldn't do it. You'd be taking dictation exactly exactly considering your professional life and we suspect that could be pretty demanding and draining especially based on some of the things that you told us. Has your art. Become a form of therapy for yourself. Definitely not interestingly sell. You'd think it might be guilty. I would immediately say. Oh yes i keep into my art to know that deal with during the day right now even if i didn't have banks even if i'm on vacation sometimes i'm in the most relaxes when i want to create the most so no it's not a form of escape art and create titian gain. Creativity for me is a must. It's i can't not do it. And it's not an escape and i'm gonna do a little quick follow up. There you have mentioned your soulmate. Your wife as she very supportive of your are your creativity into she Paint no but she's a writer and She's very supportive. Yeah she loves the arts. We both love to watch. Go to place when we could and ballet and all of that and were we just do pour over that kind of stuff and literature and reading and discuss all that. She's she's the best and absolutely just right right in there with me. Well that's great. You both share that creative driver thought or nurture one another that way because she could support. Your argument can support her writing. That's the perfect relationship. I think you're obviously very creative and skilled artists. So how how does your work fuel your emotions in. How do you transmute them into creativity. That's a good question. I would say that my emotions and my or linked. And when i'm feeling something or remembering an event that i want to portray it takes me. The emotions are there but they need to be channelled so it's going in taking those emotions and taking them deep inside of me like it did was a kid and putting a focus on it. What is it that i want to say. What a what exactly my feeling. And how does that make me see what i wanna put down there and so of course it influences that i mean all of my. My work is all about emotions and the effective of life on me so it. It's you know definitely directly related when you when you're in your practice and you're treating patients. Do you think about your art at that time. Well i think about the creativity. Don't always have time to do that. There are very strange things that happen in my work in terms of where the clients and i have to go sometimes because they had this profound thought disorder and the creativity and the flexibility that i have from doing the kind of artwork that i do really translates into how england reproach his client and get inside their head to make a difference and that's an interesting process and sometimes scary and sometimes lots of fun and i can tell you some stories about that if you wanna hear them yeah sure give us a story. We have time in in this fascinating absolutely fascinating. Okay well. I think i'd mentioned this once before in our conversation i had a client who wouldn't speak to anybody. He came to us. Wouldn't talk to anybody if you ask them. A question tried to get him to talk about his experiences. He would just clam up and in his report. It said that he just felt that he was from mars and he wouldn't talk anybody because he didn't feel that he related so nobody could get him to do any sort of talking. And being the kinda guy that i am and then these are the things that my wife taught me in terms of doing therapy i saw. I need to take a different approach. I walk in the room with him. And i said you know what i went to mars last night and i looked you up and went to the hall of records and made up some name and they sit and they. You've never been there and i started rattling off about you. Know the hula blah blah Cafe near the bend in the what you call it can and went into detail just making it up going along and his eyes are starting to get wider me and he doesn't know what to do and i i didn't let them talk and i just i did this for like a half an hour. Qena what i'll see you tomorrow. I just left it. I came back the next day and he was a little agitated and went through the same rigmarole. They did this for about two or three weeks until finally. He started to talk to me if he tried to. Challenge me on any of this stuff. I'd say iran. I give a bunch of reasons. Why and pretty city began to talk to me more rational and reasonable way and it turned out that he felt this real sense of alienation. He grew up with that. Put down in school. And when the psychosis it magnified all this these are the kinds of things that That happened and you have to be creative to deal with it. There's another client that. I have that that i draw his portrait and this was an interesting guy when he first came to us. He wouldn't let anybody get near to him. He had to be like six feet away from him at all times and he was yelling constantly. Twenty four hours a day practically not sleeping and it was driving everybody nuts and he kept yelling needed to talk to god so i walked in was room in his loud as i could in a commanding voice. I said i'm god. What do you want. And he said finally started to tell me all of his problems. And i listened and the next day i came in and and i said i'm god here i am. What do you wanna today. I also told him you have to stop yelling. So he did so the next day i came in and said you know what you said. You're not god. you're an archangel. I'm being demoted. Which is good. Which is what you serve so we would go talk about that then pretty soon. I'm just an angel. Then i'm the head of the cia then fbi agent then amber a detective and then his therapist and this takes place over a very long period of time. So it's going or he was going now he's still holds a lot of these crazy delusions and it's for him to focus. He's got a really strong ego so i said to him one day sit down. I'm gonna draw you and it was good practice for me. Because i was working on just ten in ink sketches and. I don't have a good hands in good training. So i'm drawing him and and i asked him when he's done he's all over the place things crazy things and i show them the portrait and he says wow and he's telling me what he's feeling when i'm driving it so interesting so he asked me to do it again. So three hundred drawings later drawing focuses him. When i'm drawing it focuses and gets them away from all this crazy stuff then he can tell me about his day his actuality and what he's what he's doing and it's been pretty impactful for him so i combined art and therapy i got. We both got something out of it. I got much better at at at drawing portraits and and he gets some help and contact. And that's a therapy is all about it's about making your connection You say on do all these things. Have you used your. Have you chase view. Use that technique with your clients in other cases where you actually drew. Were you actually china. And i know a couple of times. They've asked me to do it. But this was a specific thing to help him to focus right. And i i haven't needed to because generally alarm. My clients are kind of wrapped up in themselves. And you know they either won't talk about anything or they're really ready to spill everything and so there's just not enough time and it would be distracting to do that. But the creativity. The creativity of doing it allows me to get inside their heads. I can see that and so. Did you ever leave what you are doing all day and then come home and then just immediately pick up your pen and paper and draw something that you actually saw are witnessed every day. That happens under stimulating. I do. I do art work every day and not all the time when i'm here but there's not a day that goes by that i don't and so yes i come home and i let the day absorb and sort of see what really pops up. What's pushing underneath. It needs to come out and sit down. And i'll start to draw and yes it definitely half. My stuff is just what happened during the day and how it impacted me and from several different sources several different clients have impacted in different ways. And that'll come out in the drawn. Does that help you. Deprogrammed yourself at the end of the day no e. We've become pretty adept at once. Somebody leaves the office. We shut it down and we're pretty good at that. Just shifting gears. I've always been a good gear shifter in my head to get away from if i can't do something about something i shift gears while you know. I have to tell people both engine. I encourage people to take a look at your our work on instagram. Actually that's where i first discovered told me about him. I told her daughter about it. And i was fascinated by what i saw. We we've been to museums all over the world. We understand are reasonably well. If anybody can actually understand art and i was fascinated by what i saw and the people that have an opportunity to take a look at your artwork on your website which is very good. It will mention that later They're going to be in my opinion. They're gonna be amazed at what they see and especially the faces the the fractured or abbreviated portraits. That you've done can you can you. This is going to be tough. Can you paint a mental picture for listers as to what they will see. Good luck that one is a lot of at. And and i'm not a word smith so bear with me here. Well i think we're gonna see when you first look at this is a wow and then a ha and by that i mean even to see something that you do not expecting. It's like what's going on here. You're gonna start to look a little closer and you're going to see that one is moved off to a different direction. I mean one hundred eighty degrees off to another direction and then those who sort of bent and maybe fractured and put into different places in the mouth has doesn't connect and maybe there's two miles into one and yet at all sort of flows together in in a moment and it's disorienting but at the same time it kind of opens you up to some feelings that you might have had when you what what's happening there these paintings. I'm distilling in event. And if you look at events especially dramatic events in your life. They don't come at you in a real. You might see things from different viewpoints and angles and distortions. And that's what i'm trying to do. In one moment in other words all these things that are happening to coalesce into one moment and it's going to be fractured. And those fracturing makes sense to me and they make sense to other people they frighten. They made this orient them. But you're going to be taken someplace. And that's what i'm trying to do to take because i've taken my self someplace to do it and i just want show the human condition and what's underneath the human condition. Not just the face of it. I'd say you did. A pretty good job is like that but you painted a pretty good Picture with words but people are really going to have to see your work. You really have to view it for yourself. I mean that's what arts all about anyway. Bright absolutely so. What would you like to convey with your art to the viewer when you when someone stumbles upon your instagram or your website. What would you like them to to get from it. i for people to look underneath. I guess to take the skin away. Because that's what the abstractions about In my thing. I'm i'm showing my insides. I'm showing my stock and emotional process. And i think that it's important for people especially in this day with all that we've been through to look underneath it ourselves to look at what the impact of life is 'cause when you know what's happened to you when you see what's happened to you you have two choices you can either succumb to it or you can do something about it and i'm trying to show the fact that if you look at it you can do something about it. That's what i'm doing with my. I'm doing something with events in my life. I'm portraying them but i'm portraying them in a in a way that's hopefully instructive thing That sort of thing. Well okay gray ashu this question that we like test people in five words or less. What would your advice be to people who want to live or be more creative. 'cause you surly are forwards and that would be be yourself and go when i when i mean go i mean act do it be yourself and put it out there. It's really good. yeah. I think too often. We psych ourselves out of just starting the process of being creative. And even if you just make a little baby step each day towards something that you want to do creatively mike. You obviously have special the time you spent teaching yourself which i greatly admire that quite good vase 'rational really. Is you know. I think that so many people criticise themselves and you. You really can't do that with creativity and with art because it's really just an expression that's right and that's what i mean by go. I mean you've got a blank paper blank campbell's blank anything and it's up to you to make something. And that's what creativity is creativity action. It's not passive. You know it's it's moving. It's it's taking yourself and doing something with that. Which makes something true true but now we're going to ask you a question. We ask all of our guests. And i'm always fascinated by the answers and that is if you could sit on a park bench and chat with anyone from the past. Who would it be. Well i'll start out with saying. I would probably want to spend time with my grandmother. My mother my father and my brother and sister all who are deceased and just go over my life with them and their lives. But i think you're asking for more of a professional or famous kind of a person and so that person to me. I think would be on vermeer not much known about him. I'd really like to probe him on how he was able to. Miraculously paint the air in a room and the painters stillness that says so much. I'd like to look over shoulder. What how he did it and you look at his painting so it's tremendously realistic. But the paint isn't like its photographic we put on there there's their dogs and blobs to it and they all coalesce into magic and i'd wanna talk to him about how he did that and i'd like to find out what his inspiration who are what his life was like what his torments were for. He'd be the one. I'd want to spend time if amir has been very popular. Answer it is question. I wanna go back though to something you said about heavy dow To sit down with your grandparents your mother your father your brother. What do you think if you showed them your art in your creativity. What do you think they're impression would be. Would they be proud. Would they be curious. Would they go. We can't believe you do this. Or what do you think they would think. Oh yeah they would definitely be proud. They were while the house was crazy terminal. They were tremendously supportive of me. So i had that yes they. They probably wouldn't understand it. My father wouldn't understand it at all but he'd be amazed by it and he'd be probably asking me questions like you know what's funny way had a good sense of humor My mother to be tremendously supportive. My brother would love what i did and my sister would as well. So yeah they they would they would. They would get me. Might not get the art that they would get me doing. That's great that's a great answer. Excellent answer and i'm so happy that would be the case. Yeah you know. It's unfortunate that we can't go back and bizarre parents and let them see what we've accomplished. And i think we all like to think that they're going to be proud of us. I know mine would be. And i'm sure yours would be extremely proud of what you're doing. You're not only very talented as an artist. But you're helping mankind or helping people definitely in that that's should be very rewarding. It is very much so era. Much some well chess over coming up to our end here ear very much living an interesting and creative life and we're so glad you're able to share some of that with us in our listeners of this has been a fascinating discussion you were very open which we greatly appreciate and some of the things that you shared and probably also very importantly as we want people to go. Check your website ear instagram. And i agree. With ron such an interesting interesting and creative life and i want to let everyone know our listeners. If you'd like to know more about chess we will have links for him under the show. Guest tab on thought row podcasts dot com so everyone can learn more about him and please connect with him on social media and check out his website. Yeah you wanna do that yes chest. Thanks again for being with us today and we have so enjoyed this conversation with you thank you. I mean it was an absolute pleasure. I wish we had you know four or five more hours. Because there's a lotta stuff we could really get into. It should be loads of fun. I mean this is a tremendous experience for me and you guys are doing a great job with this and so interesting. I i love your focus on creativity because it's sort of the root of things and you guys are getting to the point of what creativity is about not that many people talk about it in that way so this has been exciting very. I always like to say you'll be back anytime anytime huge as i'm really glad you tuned in today. We hope you enjoyed the thoughts and ideas we shared with you. We post a new podcast every week. So remember to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. So you don't miss an episode. So it's by for now from my husband rod. I wishing everyone a great day blind.

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