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"It was threes and cold and Dallas when I made my away. I read a cold front when I gave my truck. They're down. Thirty five with one thought on my mind. Forget the race. Space de that city. Hey there welcome in to this edition of other side at Texas. Glad that you're hanging out with us in you're telling friends that you hang out here described their phones next year, the officer your wherever you might be with friends of the tech game or or anywhere else. Party Halloween party, man. I've got the best howling cost him butts. Tell you about it rather phones. Go to the podcast, they have an odd phone you hold the phone up to their face unlock it, and then go subscribe them to one of the most popular podcasts around here on the other side of Texas. I am your host Jay west, Texas Leeson. We are broadcasting from the racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted love excess wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations across hub city for the best wash around guarantee. Teed racer wash dot com. So a couple of riffs to get on with you is we begin this program. Hellene? Halloween. I am going to Halloween tomorrow as Ted Mitchell. I'm teaching course tomorrow. I don't know who makes these decisions, it's certainly not me. But I will be teaching a course at Texas Tech university tomorrow morning, eleven AM a news writing course, and I will be there in my boots jeans lab coat and. Texas Tech health, scientists centered embroidered lab coat in by embroidered lab coat. When I mean, of course, is something that I print off in color, and then, you know, the hell scientists center logo, and then I'll just tape it to my lab coat, a white shirt and black red and black tie, my friend of years, friendy tears. My barber Murray Stanley here in Lubbock. Cut my hair today did a magnificent job of giving me the Ted Mitchell do which is the convertible of haircuts. It's absolutely convertible. Because it's so long. It's like a three inch flattop that when I'm done. We have family pictures on Sunday, which we do have the Leeson tribe. Family pictures on Sunday, I can simply just put the magic jail on my hair turn it over in. Be naturally handsome. Not that ten Mitchell is not naturally handsome. But I can lay it over. I can get some horizontal to that vertical in. I can go both ways in. Here's my complain about Ted Mitchell, by the way, and I hope that the here's this because his predecessor this program in he would do wise to listen program as well. First of all, Ted Mitchell is my Oklahoma state. Eight. He stole my haircut because whenever I got married. One of the unspoken rules. It was probably spoken at some point. And then became unspoken was could not have a flat top anymore. I was an proud Abernethy Enloe ahead. My flat top and then a whenever we got married. mrS Leeson made it clear that I can't have a flat top. So I kinda went into fake flat top mode, whereas a little bit longer not nearly short on the sides. But I was doing that. Now, I don't know where Ted Mitchell was in two thousand and three. But that's where I was. And so I feel like he's Xerox state me stated me Oklahoma, stated me on all this. And number two. I get on the radio some three years ago or however long it's been and I start talking about Wes. Texas in the import of the region. The importance of the region, I should say as it imports exports. I should say to other places in Texas, like the suburbs. I hear this a lot you guys in Lubbock think that you're so conservative. But all you are is subsidized like west of I thirty five all subs-, it, I can't necessarily are you? But you guys get a good return on that investment? So far is food and fiber are concerned. And here's Ted Mitchell out of nowhere starts like. Take him talking points in talking about west Texas in the importance of the region a took my haircut, and then he took west Texas in in the way that I j west Texas Leeson talk about west, Texas and. So in some ways in my mind in we'll get Ted Mitchell here. Maybe in a couple of months. Given region gate and. Have him explain himself? But some people will say oh, you want to be like Ted Mitchell. No, I'm returning the favor to Ted Mitchell. Tomorrow is we broadcast on October thirty. I'm returning the favor to Ted Mitchell by dressing up like him because it seems pretty clear to me that Ted Mitchell's taken a lot of content and. Made it zone. So tomorrow is Ted wing. I do think a lot of Ted Mitchell, by the way, and I'm glad to look like him in. I'm glad like people told me before you remind me a lot of Ted Mitchell. Well, guess what? Tomorrow, I'm going to look a lot like Ted Mitchell. But I challenge Ted Mitchell to any charity of his choosing a fundraiser where he and I get up on the stage, and we go at it improv you to do master debaters with me, Ted Mitchell. You wanna do that? I will ruin you on that stage. That's just my challenge to you, Ted Mitchell. So let's shift gears. We got might Mazaar. It's technology Tuesday your questions a couple of already rolled in. We put the on their social media eight oh, six seven four five fifty eight hundred you wanna be a part of the program. We have Mike bazaar. We're gonna do some tech. Choose day, not Texas Tech Tuesday. But. Technology Tuesday gonna get into a couple issues if you're in I'll even make this invitation. I'm gonna make an exemption to the rule if you would like to not only text in eight o six seven four five fifty eight hundred but call in to the same number coming up in about five minutes from now, you can ask Mike bazaar bazaar solutions, your technology question, and then after might bazaar there is one in excuse me. I'm going to put out the whole continuum. I've heard that a lot of you know, this democrat could win this democrat could win. There's one democrat that I've heard over and over again who could win his name's t g caraway in. He's running for county. Commissioner in Lubbock county, monitor standing is that TGI caraway is within striking distance in. We'll let you hear from him and take your questions again by text won't take phone calls during that segment only coming up about five minutes from now again, eight oh, six some four five fifty eight hundred you can ask your questions TJ care way. Running for the Lubbock county. Commissioner race running within that race new on other side of Texas dot com. I've mentioned this talked about it may get this. There's a group in. I'm only doing fair here. A challenge the Lubbock expo center people the people who are on this board with what passed through federal legislation in with sun by the president on October five that you can no longer. Tax rental car vehicles that are based at airports that receive federal funding or permited by such airports. You can no longer tax those for projects away from the airports the Lubbock county expo center. People put in their initiative their ballot language in mid August. And of course, it changed on October five their opposition. It seems to me Lubbock tax payers for accountability. Now, look as we go along here and you guys follow along. Any name that says accountability responsibility deserves scrutiny and so this group this political action committee Lubbock tax payers, four accountability. Get this after the show yesterday. I'm efforting hard. I go down to the Lubbock county elections office. I pick up their eight day campaign finance report. This dare I say shady pack, and I see that they have claimed they have reported they they have gotten eighteen thousand six hundred dollars in contributions in loans. They're funded by eighteen thousand six hundred dollars. However, sixteen thousand nine hundred dollars of that total came from wait for it, New Mexico and Austin. Lubbock tax payers for accountability. I'm reading from the piece that we just put up on other side of texts dot com, a hub city based political action committee Pac organized to oppose the Lubbock county expo center ballot proposition reported the following this the house this for accountability a ten thousand dollar loan from Strathern production company, which is an energy company in Roswell New Mexico. That's a long ways from Lubbock. There was a seventeen hundred dollar in-kind contribution from Lubbock. Charles. Quote, unquote, CJ Hargrove presumably to cover the campaigns seventeen hundred dollar yard, son, political expenditure, and then there was an in-kind contribution from Mesa media in Austin for radio and television production while no amount was specified on their campaign. Finance report four Mesa media. A Lubbock county election official says that the contribution amounts to six thousand nine hundred dollars. Now Lubbock tax payers. Four accountability political expenditures were mostly for advertising, and we have the whole campaign finance report there on the website. Now, here's the interesting part. And I said something about this yesterday. But other documents show that the packs treasurer changed on October nineteen that treasurer was Hargrove. And a new treasure was appointed by Hargrove six days later, Tony Renteria who's a big dog on social media, but doesn't like to take questions because who cares about accountability. Right. Tony Renteria you like your name being mentioned on the radio. Bet you do because it's one of the only time you'll hear it Hargrove is the nephew of former Lubbock state Representative Karl is it and Hargrove I'm told step down because he was concerned about quote, unquote. The campaign's tactics Renteria thing just said his name again, who is a very look you got to measure your words because you don't want to sound like a tyrant, but who is a very involved in by very involved. I mean, overly involved. With the Lubbock county. Republican party is also said to be a longtime. Volunteer of is it who held the state office from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand ten on Sunday night. I spoke with Carl is it and asked him if he had any involvement with the pack. He said, no. And Furthermore, they he had no knowledge of who was running the pack. His nephew informer big campaign guy. Is nephew as well. As another guy who helped him in his campaigns Corliss it saying, hey, I don't know anything about who's running that campaign that the that pack. I I don't I don't know who that is which. I think to a lot of people would be breaking news your nephews in them when you're when you're tough lieutenants. And you don't know about it. Okay. So I'll just take you cheer word there. Renteria and Hargrove did not respond to requests for comment on for this story by the time, we publish it today. Renteria I called him on Sunday evening publish this today called Hargrove yesterday. Didn't hear back from either one. Now, like, I said I've raised a question about the rental cars, and what seems to be a prohibition in this will play out in courts. So those folks have answered some hard questions because at this point, it seems to me you've got to. Two candidates up in both our packs. The. The expo people have answered the question, and they've linked some stuff. So that you can go see how they've answered the question within the piece, but the other group Lubbock tax payers, four accountability have not answered the questions, and it seems to me to be that the aforementioned person who has name I will not glorify dignify again on the radio has resisted answering even though he is heading up a pack. That says we're we to be accountable. We want to kill ability. Where's the accountability? And they are not there. And this is my my thought, and you can go to the peace other side of Texas dot com. We've got the full campaign finance report that can be viewed this fella's pack at this point. Because the other guy walked away said he didn't like the tack. Ticks, and by the way, some of you guys at Lubbock county Republican party, you need to understand that the reason that you see dwindling numbers are because guy dufuses like what you've got running this thing in shouldn't tie you to it. But do like this guy run rampant within your your party in your local county counterparty, but. If you're going to say, you want to be accountable men or your four accountability than you need to answer questions. And one of the first questions is this. How does ninety percent of contributions to your pack derive from outside far outside Lubbock county. That's my question to you. Hope you chime in hope you'll also stay with us. We just run ninety second commercial breaks here on the program keeps you involve might bazaar in studio carried a little bit over there. Get away from politics. I don't think he wants to take political questions because Republicans and Democrats bide technology advisors from bizarre solutions sick right with us here in the go make a little bit of money here on your other side, the party continues here shortly. No a lot of you guys. We have an audience czar. Here's our audience is about the biggest part of our audience is thirty eight to forty eight. Now somewhere in there. And then there's some some are older friends who jump in as well. But they enjoy choose days with you is might bizarre bizarre solutions in studios with us as he is on what's become a weekly basis. I'm going to work out a really good border for you coming in here might. So here's the last week in I did home monologue about this. But a lot of people are getting this. So my area code is eight and this is the first questions rolled in. If you would like to in just four, Mike bizarre. I'm offering this invitation, Hugh, if you wanna call in to the program during this segment or you want to text in both numbers are eight zero six seven four five fifty eight hundred if you would like to call in or text in just shoot them our way, if you've got some tech problems with that be on your phone, your computer, op-ed, dealing with kids and technology that you don't understand might bazaars guy to talk to. So what I've gotten laid this out last week my area code eight. Oh, six my prefix five four three constantly get robocalls with a different four number configuration after the five four three and for me. And I don't know how they decide what they're going to go after you with. But for me, it was always home security solutions that we're giving away a certain amount. Now what I did last week, and you can chide me here in just in just moment. She didn't know so. But when I did was no I didn't know till texting was like what is going. What's the end game because a foundling so because I was getting called two or three times day. Yeah. We're getting we're giving away forty free home security systems are getting good because she laughed too. Didn't. She was at that one. Maybe a little bit. She's really giggling high Howard doesn't sound like a recording sounds very real. And. Then go through this thing. So hang up hang up hang up. But on this particular day last week. I just said, you know, what I'm just going to go through with the thing because I'm going to get through to a quote, unquote, customer service agent. Yeah. And I'm gonna give them the riot act and tell him to stop calling me. Well, I go through the prompts. And when I know this was she asked me three. Yes. Or no questions are you interested? Yes. Would you like me to pass you along? Yes. The call could be recorded. Are you okay with that? Yes. And then I texted you because they took me through they put on the hold music and everything and then it cuts off. Now, I said bizarre. What is the in game? Yeah. But because I didn't give anybody in for any information. And then you sent me back a devastating tax the link linked to the ABC article that. And this is probably six eight months ago that the article came out, but part of the scans on they're trying to get behind when they're they're trying to get people to say, yes because now they have audio of you agreeing to something. So basically can try to go use that to do other charges or other scams have an audio recording of you saying, yes, essentially, they've gotten the left side of my thumbprint the right side of imprint in the middle. It's yes. Yes. And yes. So what now that they've got me saying, yes. Three times like an agitated west Texan. I give them three and fantastic yeses. What can I be signed up for here? You know? I mean, that's I've looked around trying to figure out because I don't know what you can agree to honestly on the phone that they could legally try to Bill you for or anything else. It's a scam going around. And I don't know if they're gonna use your voice or they're going to try to get you to do something for somebody might recognize your voice. Or even scam off something else. Right. I mean, there's a bunch of these and this is you like to be a human trafficker. Yes. Are you? Sure. Yes. Could you repeat one more time for our managers? Yes. And so have you seen like the videos that have where somebody just did one? And a forget the name of it'll come to me as soon as I get off the air, but they basically put Harrison Ford's face in the original haunt the movie like or not the original the the new one that just came out the origin story one. And so they used a and computer tech to stick his face on it. So it looked like a young version of Harrison Ford in the solo movie, which obviously wasn't and now they can do the same thing with audio and rebuilding audio scripts if they get snippets of what you're talking about. So that's the the real sinister side the other side. And and honestly what I probably expect happened for the most part is is cheap now to run robo calling operations like it used to be expensive. You had to have tons of guys. They can get some guys in India Pakistan wherever it is. They're paying them less than a dollar an hour. Ukraine wherever writing this any of them, and and they can run software off internet based whatever that goes through connects and Senate even need a big phone Bank anymore. They can have two guys because they know that most people hang up, and so then they are trying to kick people through. Well, if they get shut down and somebody doesn't go shut down the robo dialer. It may only cost them. Ten bucks a month to run the thing or something? And so you may just be getting the phone calls, and you agree through the automation. And then there's nobody to actually connect you to on the other end, my mother-in-law is a Saint, and I'm not just saying that because she's coming into town this weekend for a you tick game. I really do. I love my mother-in-law think that she's incredible. But we were talking on the phone and she said colored yesterday and she said, I'm so glad you weren't Christie in Christie was trying this aerobics call she always. Yes. That was trying to sell her something, and she was about to lose her mind. I told her that I was referred to. Robo killer. You can get and it's like this sadistic. They've got a prerecorded that goes against the robot that yeah, it's this app that will entertain the robot. Or maybe it's a lab person, doesn't it? And also, I've got AT and T in. So I downloaded call protect. But what's in also today, a call the public utility commission reach out to their spokesperson come on the show and tell us what the state is doing about these massive because everybody's it seems to me everybody's dealing with it, but might bazaar beyond the public utility commission beyond robo killer in whatever service at people's. Whatever service folks have in the app that it provides what are some other ways to shut this down. So here's the little bit of back. You can try to sign up for the do. Not call us the truth is these are scammers are not fall the line. Anyway, so go do it because you should anyways. But the truth is it's not gonna help. Yeah. It's kind of like giving up your guns in the wars. I'm gonna get shot at tomorrow. But here you can take today, there's several apps Haya Nomo robo robo killer there if you go look in the app store do a quick Google search for robo killer apps, you'll find a bunch of right so go find those those will help those are free so free to fade. So like Haya is fifteen bucks a year or something like that. Okay. And if you've got the service, then they provide their version of the hard part is they evolve quickly. So if you relate back to spam when Email and spam got bad. I mean it used to be ninety ninety five percent of your Email spam. There's still tons of traffic literally billions of messages everyday or getting Corentin by spam filters because the spam guys gotten good at it. The phone guys never had to and the heaven. And now that the is made it, easy and cheap. I can go by phone number for a dollar. So now, I can go by a phone number for a dollar. My minutes are free, and I can dial all day long, and whatever prefix and area code I want and so because I can do that it's real cheap and easy to. Robo dollars. So now they're having to try to figure out. How can we block robocalls because the statistic right now, I think is it's almost fifty percent of all phone traffic. A you've done a new YouTube video about this at the bizarre solution. It look up bizarre solutions on YouTube where we put links on Lincoln's book Twitter. Let's get in one more quick thing. We got a couple more minutes here. I went way too long Ponting in the opener. Again, G care way is up next here on your other side Pacific. Cafe sue was this. Oh, yeah. The airline Cathay Pacific. So it's a real large. It's real large Asian airline F. Forget that Singapore. Maybe Hong Kong somewhere. So anyways, they got hacked. And it was something like seven and a half million records got leaked and the funny thing is that it's gotten to the point. And this is where I tell people if you don't need to give out information don't give out information. Right. If it's convenient to save your passport number in your frequent flyer app. I still say don't type it in every time. So the leak happened, and it was passport numbers and people's names and emails addresses everything, and then it says in this line, and I just have to kind of smack my head and go who cares? But we don't think they got the passwords you got passport numbers and everything else. Like, you could just go fake being me who cares password. Yeah. The envir- burned down my house, but it didn't get my picket fence. Yeah. It's still it's still there. So it just to me goes back to. Luckily, the ca- Cathay Pacific isn't gonna impact a lot of people on the US except for international flyer. So a lot of business. Flyers will probably have coach share one. Let me just cut you off. What what is the number one to make sure that identity is in passwords, not even passwords, but passports credit card numbers. So what can people do sagoes get an identity protection service, right, which is the best one? So we do one called idee agent. And it's out there fuel look up agent. They can do it all put a link on Facebook and Twitter, whatever. So you'll be find. Bizarre slough. So so we do dark web monitoring for businesses you monitor for folks through these persons who use yes, we use agent for the business side. And then we recommend that the executives in the company by the personal one because with the personal one you can put in all of your personal emails Bank account information, you can put in passports and driver's license numbers in. And then it monitors the dark web for all of that. So if you see it out there, you can hopefully do something about it. So like guys like me where I've got to make a real job. This thing writing stories and trying to keep people to the best of my ability informed about what's going on. I don't wanna go. Check my Email in see what all's coming through. But you guys can provide like your monitor your guys. Call me. I'm gonna take the call. Yeah. Not like, the when SIL home security system. But I'll take the call. But you guys essentially we do it for businesses for home stuff around supervisor. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. So for businesses we do all the monitoring, and we take care of it. And we notify here's your password. And whatever else we ran your scan the other day, and and you know, talked about that. Yeah. And they took my Email password. It's out there. And so it's not any more. Well, that's at once. You know, exactly what you told me to do. I was sitting nine until you what room in my house. But but may or may not aathroom, and I I went through a change. I chose four objects around me, which is what you told me this. Yep. And come up with this along gated Email password dress, and but it's not hard, right? It's easier to remember you can put yourself back in this important for people bit is a service that shortens Email address or web links links. Right. So sometimes I don't want it to come up on Facebook. You know, whenever I'm doing promotions for the show. I don't want it to come up is like this long three paragraph website. I wanted to just be a few characters, but how bit get my password. So you either signed up with them somewhere or you signed up through an affiliate, and what I don't think we we've used to joke with cliff about this a lot was when you accept that terms. That's twenty-seven pages long. You don't know what you're accepting. And a lot of those are affiliates, and they're running that through somebody else or it could have been Twitter bottom or something like that where they're using the condensed, and I don't know a bit Lee specifically. But I know there's a ton of that the one big one that came up real quick was unroll dot me. And they basically would unsubscribe from junk mail. The problem was nobody read the terms and conditions, and they bas- they had rights to comb your Email for whatever they want. So Uber was paying unroll me for information on lift receipts to try to figure out how well lift was doing my aunt wising people's receipts. That are getting Email to happen. Eliza. I mean, it's just. And it was legal. It was shady, but it was legal because you agree to it. Yeah. One question in real quick. What did ask me what you said about Email in you told me? Choose fast words. Yeah. She'll four items so four unrelated items. So what I was telling you put yourself in a familiar spot because you can picture it again in your head to remember your password, then pick four unrelated things. So sitting in here, you know, meet flag window clock. Right. That's your password. Throw a couple of capitals. Even if it's the front of the letter if that makes you feel better, but the truth is that all lower case is better than coming up with some goofy twelve digital eight digit complex password length is the Trump and in randomness. So if the words are related, so if it's toilet plunger toilet paper that make guest by a computer. But if it is unrelated items, that's what you're really looking for. Yup. Might bazaar. Bizarre solutions real quick too. On a circle back on one thing. If you get robocalls. My wife got one today said it was from Verizon, and they were gonna disconnect our service because we were whatever. So she hung up on it. We called Risa back just verify. But they pray a lot on the the fear factor. So if you get a credit card alert statement about fraud, or whatever, even if you think it's for real these explained to them, I'm going to call the credit card hang up, and then call your credit card off the back of your phone the phone number off the card same Culver is in Cali. TNT don't give these guys that call you any information because you don't know who they are at bizarre solutions on Twitter. Did you really just say for real Z's for real Z's? Okay. Bizarre. Take Tuesday here on your other side. Thank you for bringing us here on the other side of Texas into the digital age. We try to drag everybody right in and go to a quick break. We're gonna drag t g care way into these studios. I'm I hear that he's within striking distance in red Republican. Lubbock county. He may just win this county. Commissioners ratio gets here from TGI care way. Coming up interesting character, the good radio stick right with us here on the other side of Texas, folks, I got to tell you we're about to get TGI care way on. But checking my Email over the show, and I appreciate so many guys who text in in Email during the show, those you her listening live we raise the question yesterday about Dennis Bonnin, who's a house of he's a house Representative of Angleton and raise the question about whether or not he's four against vet school, some Primo when I won't mention the name some Primo picks of Dennis Bonnin in full Ainum gore in appears to be put this up social media appears to be giving motivational talks to an players on the sideline. No conflict there. I'm sure things will be fine there with the best school seems like everything's fine. Let's just hand the reins over to dinner spun an in studio been looking forward to this. Appreciate them reaching out. I've made a case that I think that the the closest rate race in state of Texas. On the state level will be might call your damned Patrick in Lubbock county. A lot of folks pointing in a lot of Republican folks pointing towards t g care way of a been around here for a while been around here and been around Austin. He's in studio with us now TD care way. Thanks. What's TGI Stam core? Why did you go ask me that j it does Stanford Therrien Glenn therein T H A R O N T H E R O in my mother lives seven Linda's in her first grade class, and she says she's going to name me something that nobody else and she accomplished that. So a lot of times I say, they're Glenn people. Go t g not going xactly. I would go by t g to our. But everybody in Crosby county does know me. Steve writ. Towed us when we met with him. He said him his t g but at Crosby counties there and caraway. So you picked it up late fourteen when I was fourteen when I went on the farm strike. I started going t o so let's talk about that. No, civil, you know, you see pictures like the whole just kinda makes me just really grunts my ears the whole Beddoe. So to me, it seems like I don't want to get into the Senate race. Just let me lay the savage second on need to get it off my head. Beddoe the charges that Beddoe is playing to Hispanic voters with the name Betto, Robert aerobic. He's provided pictures from Kenya. Artery years old is three years that it is not as kindergarten. But here we are in a place in age and political climate in which there's a big difference. Swing three in kindergarten right has gone by that. But I don't hear a lot of people say we'll Ted Cruz placating to white voters I paying Ted instead of. Rafeal crew. That's what. But the so let's let's jump into this before we get into the whole election. He mentioned the farm strike. Yeah. Stuck about that? Okay. Talk about your role. Give us the year. What was going on while you get involved in the farm store? Nineteen seventy seven I'm fourteen years old. We had just sold our form and former Texas which people say, where's farmer, Texas was point cone estacada? So those there's only know Crosby county. This is northern Crosby county. Thank we sold. We sold our farm, but we bought this gas station in contexts, and we started selling farm equipment used farm equipment, dad. Mom, went to farm snails and Iran, if Iran a gas station after well, I was in co op so about eleven o'clock in the morning. I would go I would go and run a station. So we was very involved an culture, as we know in nineteen seventy seven farm prices were very low and stuff, and we were going to these farm sales and stuff and a lot of arm started seeing the stickers farm strike, you know, and I was when I I seen him outside farm strike, you know. Yeah. This is you know, farmers are going to strike stuff. But once we started hearing from some of these folks, gene Schroeder from Colorado and stuff come down spoken. Everything said, you know, this is what we're trying to get farmers together to go together to Washington, DC and. Try to make change. And that's where that's where I got that that deal I've been doing this for forty years trying to go to Washington trying to go too often try to make change for people make things better and stuff. And I started that when I was fourteen years old flew up nineteen seventy eight GM Sturt was there. He went up there with and everything flew up, and we lobbied that was when George may homeless congressman stuff, and he was one hundred percent behind us and all of us and everything and then in nineteen seventy nine his tractor K distorted from Lubbock cannot help drive. I drove military's tractor ever. Every third day was three of us switched off on that. And then I rode with Mel one drove from Lubbock Woodrow from from the Civic Center parking lot in Lubbock to Washington DC. We went down to big springs and went up twenty. Does this about a month get up there? You didn't put your. You didn't put your tractor in the pond at the memorial. Did you know? But I I know I know the man that drove that tractor and the pollen did it intentionally. Yes. No Jim beam involved. No, they just stick that sucker. They've put a little ramp burn pop that sucker over there. I was there. I seen it seen it. I'm I've got pitcher. I've got pictures to TD care way. Let's get into the race. As mentioned in the teaser heading into the segment. I hear a lot of people saying that you're within striking distance in rid Lubbock county. Tell me TGI care way. How you've run a campaign in which you've not lost Republicans Republicans are interested in boating for you. We can talk about your opponent here in just moment in why Republicans may be looking for an alternative in this race. But what do you credit? It to Republicans being interested in you. What are some when I'm a centrally let me just rather than? Going, you know, suddenly at you, you've run the campaign that I think a lot of people ought to pay attention to because you've not in forgive me made yourself out to be crazy not made yourself out to be an ideolog. What what have been your guiding principles in this campaign? This far. Well, you know, I started thinking about this will Kenny dinner actually approach before years ago to running his petty Jones. And I said that the four years goes, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that. But I knew twenty eighteen the ways things shaping up and in some of the things that you know, Patty and ability going down to Austin and testify against one of the governor's bills and stuff. I knew that they would be payback for that. I knew that people were saying what you're going to run against Patty Jones. And I'm like, you just watch I will not be running against Patty Jones in November twenty eight. So that was part of the deal that I knew that this would be an open seen. So you thought at that time it would be Republicans that running in spaghetti Jones. Not Democrats will know that they would be a Republican running against Patty Jones and beat her that this would be this would be an open seat in. This is the first time it's an open seat in eighteen years. And I'm the first democrat runs out and Brazil switched parties in nineteen eighty six. So just just so who's that algebra? He was a county Commissioner from nineteen sixty four to think he's ninety two or ninety four and proceeded. Patty Jones will there was one other. There was a couple of others was there was -pointment. And then. There was another Republican before Patty Patty got into thousands, she wound up in two thousand and she's only had two opponents in the general election since since she had to libertarians running. Our democrat has never run for that seat since out them. Brad's will switch parties. Would you voted for padding? Jones voted in the past for penny. Joan okay. Even though there weren't Democrats. That ran against her. Esmond democrat Ron against. So what did you do in those generals? Did you do they just? Left that blank. Okay. So TGI tell us what? So so far is messaging is concerned. Why do you not loss? Republicans will think the one thing I've really pressed of the have this forty year commitment to step forward and trying to do things for people do things for all people. Now, don't just mean democratic people Republican people independent people to work cross allow with everything, you know. I'm lucky enough to be able to work into capital for three years. When speaker lightning was there. And he showed he showed till the deal. He brought Republicans and Democrats together he had democratic shares Republican chairs and stuff. You know? It's the deal. You know, we've got we've got to make our government work. And we gotta sit down together and make it work. Pete Laney kept all of his his own the sand. United are both raised Myers of speaker. Laney kept all of his stuff in the barn. Essentially, all of Zoll campaign stuff, all his son. All this all in that guest. There's an old gas station in but a toilet leaked in flooded was say, your responsibility. We have to thing. Well, I mean, I was I was he Laney. Stuff's gone is always stuff's not gone. First of all. Let me go through all this stuff. Not gone. I had been the one that used that restroom because he had me helping him go through that stuff. And then I left a few days. And then I didn't know that that happened. You know, so long goes while we're talking to your ago. Okay. Because I've asked him specifically like every time this like I'm Bob Bullock signs, and I'll just put them out of every once in a while I'll put on a bumper sticker in people. What are you who is that? What are you talking about? Well, I'm referring to a better age is what I'm doing. But the Laney stuff up got together still they're still plenty Elaine stuff to didn't didn't get with so TGI. I'm gonna ask you three points of your platform. And I want you to do one. We're gonna go to a break and wearing into the other two. What is the first part of your platform? Well, think. Campaigning this last year and a half that are county roads have to be maintained and they had to be maintaining a timely fashion. And as we know being on game drill. That's not been happening. But the Commissioner's court we have now what would the district be? If should you one is should you win. What would be your county Commissioner district give listener so is pretty much so twenty-seven west you come down twenty you get about the airport, and it starts heading you kind of cut through ago. Lowered lock to Quaker then cuts down through Quaker and comes back to Indiana. And and go through to goes by tech. I have universe right there university in tech. And I have Texas Tech university goes down to thirty four th street. Thirty fourth is the southern boundary. You know? So this is one question. So you bring up the point about county roads. I looked at a an agenda for the Lubbock county. Commissioners a month or two ago, there are some forty agenda items on their only one of them our roads in as I read through an ice questions. What are these other thirty nine or so it was just it was about pensions? And it was about, you know. Over we have proven a travel voucher to one some person in. But it brings up the question about how important it is. Is it to you to go, and we're going to get to your other two points coming up after the break. But. On the point of county roads. It seems to me that that is always just one or two points within a forty fifty point agenda. Yeah. Okay. Thirty to fifty I should say to me, it seems like. To be accounting. Commissioner is to be collaborative to be able to work with the other commissioners done exact where you point listeners to where you've been in a collaborative position seven years. I served States Air Force. You talk about you know, annot this country. We are capable of working together. Black white Hispanic black white Brown, gay straight. Christian non non-christian because I've seen it in the United States Air Force had we'll do it for seven years had to work Ed to sit down, and I wasn't five of station five places. So you had you had five different situation where you got throat in a wholly new different situation. You got to sit down with those folks, and you got to work to be able to make our force work in and I do feel like I'm done. I learned a lot in their force about working with people TGI care way. We're going to break getting him with a quickey break about ninety seconds from now stick right where you are other side, Texas, we'll get to the other two points with Theorin caraway with their care way. On your other side, exte- g care way. In-studio lots of people scratching their heads. Singing your campaign finance reports, some notable Lubbock Republicans throwing into your race TJ care way. When asked you about. To other points in your platform. But riddle me this wire Lubbock Republicans in for care way. Will you know, a moments just got a personal thing? Steve reds one of them. You know, I've known me. And I was right. We raised in cone together. So we've known each other applause, his his half, brother. My father were best friends. So that comes from. I have a lot the Ford, you know, the forty years that I've been here on the south plains. You know, I have a lot of the relationships of met a lot of people do that. So that that plays into that? You know, think yet to save Georgia may give it a five hundred first conversation. I had with him was today wrote the check to me, so, but I think you know, they they see. They they listen to what happened in in the primaries and stuff like that. And they see me as someone who's Blewett moderation. Moderate, you know, that I'm I'm going to sit there and try to do the job that he need to do and not not making out logical and stuff like that. You know, this is in this deal. And I like what I said, I was Steve read I said, you know, I'm wanting to represent all county not just Republican primary base. Yeah. TGI care. Wait till me. So let's go back would g b. You know, you're voting in an election fifty years ago. Today. Everything to me is upside down that there is no conservative democrat more. There's there's no moderate except for this. Great uprising that's about to happen. I don't think it's going to happen. This time around twenty twenty two you're going to see more and more politicians tried to appeal to the middle. Yes. You know is the thirty five year old crowd becomes, you know, forty in forty into fifty. Would you have been Yarborough voter or where would you have been on that? I'm a biggest dorien and Ogden lottery. Search I would have been in the Arbroath camping tell you that. But I want to tell you the reason why I'm known that. I've done a lot of research and stuff I actually have done research working on a book of the Democratic Party from nineteen fifty to nineteen sixty and I've been at LBJ library, not been in a lot going through papers and stuff like, and I think you're making the point about LBJ and stuff, you know, and LBJ was just ultimate Bala Titian to where you he had his foot in both camps. And okay, let's go to your other two points on your platform. You know, we've talked about roads, I think the Knicks things get a lot of stuff have been talked about the budget and the salary increase and stuff like that. And I'm really on that on your salary back or I I will if I'm elected I will go the first thing I will do. Now, I'm not gonna first thing on the genders. We're going to roll back them the pay raise and stuff like that. But I went to hold on. We're gonna go to where you will go. But for listeners how much was the salary increase. So from everything I've read it was fifty six thousand dollars. Now. Now, the salary is eighty one thousand dollars, and then you get a forty eight hundred dollar Car Loans. So we're talking are actually as per year. So about eighty six thousand dollars what our county commissioners, you give a gift give or take a couple of dollars. So where are you will go is I'm gonna go back to Sydney two thousand dollars. I'm only going to take. A seventy two thousand dollars celery. And I'm going to do that they won. You can go can go fill out a piece of fallen ten percents about ten percents. So what will you do with the ten percent stays? What's his county? Oh, you're going to give it back to you know, you you you just say, I'm I'm only taking seventy two thousand so that that whatever, you know, just settle stay in the county costs, are you? We're gonna go going the other five minutes here. But I went or you do you teach you care way that the reason that we're that you're sitting here. Well, you would have been sitting here, regardless. But I think your opponent would have been Patty Jones. Yeah. Should you have chosen run? Yeah. But I think that you chosen run before all this went down. Yes. Because I knew I knew I had my gut feeling being around this politics. Knowing up, you know, one of the things is paying attention to the other side. And I've done that's one thing. I've learned but chedda sees ticket into beating penny Jones was the salary and. I just. I really wonder at the wisdom of the sound. So why not tie like, let's just take federal judges in just saying, you know, what Lubbock county commissioners are going to be paid based upon increases in federal judges or their dog catchers, or whatever ERM whatever inflationary device when us but just tied it to that. And that's the law of the land and whatever increase they get is what the commissioners can why do you think that they how long ago was this two or three years ago? You know, I think the last increase, I don't know. What's I don't know what it would for six thousand a couple years ago because I think that was the last increase. There's two different increases at happen in the last one was I think couple not just linked to mean to me, the political optics, or what would have brought us here in my point is that I think a lot of Republicans look at what they did in run their their hands through there and think, wow, you know, we just jeopardized the Commissioner's court too much. Audie logs people who may not have the county's interest in mind who went to get in there on in here. I would mention Jason corley in chedda see that here too guys who quite frankly, don't know what they're doing. And so we got to vote for a democrat here. Even though we're Republicans is there the first Cessna nt that. There are a bunch of business Republicans now who are saying now things are out of control, and they may not have interests with the county, but they see a blog a segment of local government. That's a ri- in. So TJ care way comes along with his blue Bill tan hat in you know, I'll get I'll write him a check. Well, I mean, the point is that they've come in, you know, there in that camp that my taxes are too high. And I'm totally agree. Your taxes are too high. But it's not your county taxes that are too high. And they are the ones that are responsible for the county tax rate. We no reason our taxes are too high is school taxes, and it's because down in Austin over the last twenty years, we went from sixty percent of the state financed. Our our public schools to thirty eight percent and our school districts have had to make up the difference in that any any locally elected Republican state representatives senators to reach out to you know. Third point on your platform. Third point is just that we need to have people just going to be able to come together and sit down the Commissioner's court we manage that budget in. I really find it funny that doing this last year and a half the budget. There's one hundred seven million dollar budget that the money comes from taxes from the county. But then there's the extra money that comes from federal and state, it makes our budget one hundred seventy five million dollars a year, we have to manage that budget. And that is the job of Lubbock county. Commissioners court is to make sure that each of our equally and uniformly that each of these things that we have our courts are law enforcement. You know, the elections are are are just you know, elections and roads and county maintenance, and there's all sorts of the little things, you know, we actually carried the budget for the Lubbock county historical society, you know, was only like. It's like two hundred thousand dollars. I if I'd be, but it's a small, but we're the ones that approved that budget, and we have to sit there and have someone that's going to be there every day making sure they're sitting down in managed in that. So now, I'm going to spice things up as close out with you you or vite invited with so or Rourke at believe yesterday. Drove Lubbock to which falls you get in the vehicle with Aurore. No, I'm I I wasn't even at the. No, I'm saying if you were get, oh, then the invited to go from which falls, think crews Beck here on Wednesday. And and then Aurore comes back to Lubbock, but you're invited in the vehicle in. You've got a raw Rex ear for four hours. Whatever the drought is where do you? Tilling Rourke about if he says TGI care way. They're they're they're they're tell me what you thinking here. What do I need to improve on in the last week of the election? Would like I said you've not run ideologically based campaign. What would you tell him? You know, he's just a, you know, right now, he's getting out his base. And you know, and that's probably you know here, but hang hang on. Let me tell you. That base is not enough the basis half of the Republican base here. Here's the do j as far as and this is a election to. I'll win this election. I mean, I'm getting Republican votes. And I've got in Lubbock county I have to get Republican. And that's what point but he's getting new voters. If I didn't have the new voters to there's twenty seven hundred new voters registered in my my precinct precinct four between the March primary, and I'll Tober it's those people don't come out and vote I'm going to lose. Well, I think that so it's a fine line is fine. With me, I've gotta get crossover votes. But also got to get that. I have to have that kind of base to base book in you bring. His mother standing is that Dallas Canley today's past their two thousand sixteen votes. The total of their votes eight days into early voting, and that Lubbock is only eight hundred votes should surpass total votes. Two thousand sixteen as of yesterday in precinct four seventeen thousand two hundred seventy seven voters voted what's that mean? You compared to two thousand sixteen two thousand four less that's getting closer to two thousand sixteen numbers. Two to two thousand fourteen numbers ten thousand nine hundred voted altogether trouncing. Yes. Johnson that if folks wanted to go check out TD care way, where can they find more information go to t g care way dot com, or you know, and you can go TJ care with dot com. And there's a Facebook link on that on that you didn't pretty well, not making a lot of political enemies because you go to Jason dot com. You might go to another program. Well. It's a deal where you know. I'm I'm trying to reach out to everybody. Because that's what we need. We J we need. That's we got to bring our country back together again, and we got to get people going to cry. But they took my domain is what I'm trying to tell you. All right, TJ care, caraway dot com. Thank you for coming in. Then appreciate you haven't. Hey, we're going to close out this edition for might bazaar TJ care way tomorrow on the program. 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I'm grinning ear to ear that you'd be here with this from the studios or buddy Holly, but came famous today, we have Ross Ramsey coming up, and then our friend might bizarre. Ross Ramsey of the Texas Tribune, it is budget day in the Texas house, which means that they could go late late into the night and early morning debating the budget, and what you need to know about the budget, and whether or not you knew that they were debating a budget. Why that? Matters. And what they're talking about. What's at the center of the debate? Also Ross Ramsey gonna talk to us about a couple of other issues while property tax relief may not be for all Texas tax payers property tax, quote, unquote, relief is the way I would edit the headline, and then some of the secrets of Texas government aren't supposed to be secrets open meetings acts in one that matters. It's always bothersome to me that you know, it like it my birthday party. There were couple of city council people there if there were a believe four city council people there, then that would be a Corum in how cool would that be at your birthday party to have a quorum? But what's not cool is that four people could be talking about something in make arrangements for something. So that the meeting itself is really? Not a meeting. It's formalized. What was not discussed in public? But was the baited disgust hash through in private. That's a big deal. Ross Ramsey's gonna get in with that in. Then we'll have our friend, Mike Petar. So that I can put on my tinfoil hat. Another addition a temporal hat here on the program, man. I'm just getting over toll, sir. That was that was quite a trip with some great folks in really enjoyed my time out there in the NCWA tournament in folks, I'm gonna tell you I'm really worn out right now. I've said before in a a make a little add on the show about it. But started as a real estate agent, the not realtor guy, but more working with commercial properties in. The only thing I can think to liken it to is eating the big Texan in that. You just sit down and you take a bite at a time. And and I'll finish it just like I did the big Texan twice. But you learn it, and you do it and you keep on learning and doing and doing and learning and it's like anything else luck favors those who put forward the effort in and things are beginning to come together there and really fortunate to be in the place that I am in. Appreciate those who've reached out to me to help them with. They're industrial commercial. I don't wanna make an ad here. I've just sitting down at the end of a long day thinking holy cow. Where did the time go before other side at Texas kicks off a whole lot of fun? They're, you know, something that I talk about pretty often is the gun in the middle. And it's the guy in the middle that I pay attention to politics. I always say that I'm a west Texas can win on a rant yesterday about the Lubbock county Republican party. Which you know is the reds porn of America right here on the Texas cap rock and yet fifty to seventy five people show up for the annual meetings. And there's a reason for that. And the reason is not that people are disinterested. Obviously, they're very interested. Like just to compare some for you. How many people would show up for a Lubbock county Republican party event versus how many people would show up for a Jody Errington hint Errington, by the way, played a big role in the headline earlier today because I have met dough trae on my notifications on Twitter that dice air force base will now be the site at which the B Twenty-one weapons training in for the b twenty one weapons tr. Raining and test squadron, but the thing is with Errington. Not everybody has to think alike and believe a like they can agree with each other on seventy or eighty percent of the issues, but whenever it comes to this Lubbock county Republican party by God, you better be at the right place on Sunday. And you better express the same talking points as everybody else is just sheep will in. It drives me crazy in what drives me crazy. Is that west Texans bother very virtue like doing all this work on incest dot com? Figuring out where the lease and clan came from where my grandmother's part of the family came from Methodist, circuit riders. There's a lot of independence there. And if you cannot embrace independence independent thought, then e- aren't gonna hold out very long and. I see all that dec- that I got a lot of feedback after the show yesterday and then into the evening about this criticism. And I don't when I said on Twitter was look alike. I didn't wanna make a though there are some who I've talked with people who may not look like everybody else show up to an event in film like their their second class at those events. That's not my my argument. My argument is more audio logical that there needs to be some flexibility, and you know in. Here's the deal, the Lubbock county Republican party may not feel sorry. If you're outside of Lubbock, but this is pertinent to like, we've got listeners in places where like in the rolling plains where there wasn't a county Republican party until two thousand twelve but we've got some, hyper partisanship. Going in anyway back to the guy in the middle. Sorry for a flurry of thoughts right out of the gate. Does some boroughs has taken it state Representative about the house district eighty three Lubbock, and then six counties that go off to the south west three go off to south west three golf to the southeast is taking it from the Democrats and from the, hyper Democrats in taking it from impounded. Texans. And I think that's respectable. Always appreciate the guy in the middle. I appreciate the west Texaco in ISM of being the guy in the middle. And we'll see how that unfolds over the course of the evening what we're gonna do. Now is get to a quick break in a friend. Ross Ramsey on the show gotta hit full of steam, and we're rolling along here on the program. Be back. Make a little bit of money. A fact with great. With your other sons. Stones hidden. Appreciate Mullin hoard em- Brown on the phone with us. Now is the man the myth legend. He is Ross Ramsey somewhere in the texts capital, or at least near the Texas capitol. Ross Ramsey on a Wednesday. How are you? Ross ramsey. I'm fine right here in the middle of it. I just thought through the rotunda where it's noisy and find find a quiet place. He should just grabbed a bunch of guys who put him on speakerphone said, let's go on the radio. But the good way to clear a room. Hey, guys. We're on the radio. Yeah. He's telling the are you what was so presumably you're watching the house today. Right. And what is the house doing already kind of cute it up, but put it in Ross Ramsey Lehman one. Oh, one Texas legislature terms, they're working their way through the budget. And really what happens? This is the first time the budget's been on the floor in the house in this session. And it's the. First time that most members yet to have a crack at it. If they want to add something or they want to track something or they want to say, something, you know, this is when they do it. And so the first day that the house budget on the floor or the Senate by just on the floor. It's a long drawn out thing. It's about a thousand page Bill, and they go, you know, article by article, which is like chapter by chapter through the budget right now, they're working on the health human services parts, that'll take a long time education comes back that'll take a long time. And those are the two big obstacles in this conversation. And you know, one of the conversations on the floor is when do you think will be done tonight, this they guess at how long the conversations going to go and most of the guesses are somewhere between nine pm and two AM but closer to two AM, right? Well, I, you know, I'm on the nine AM end. But I I of think that they're going pretty well. They haven't had any big fight. They pulled down a lot of controversial amendments the. New Speaker Dennis bond and seem so far to be pretty good at a -verting problems. I mean, pretty good at seeing problems developing and catching them before they turn into brushfires, and they haven't had any really big fights on the floor two years ago. You may remember a couple of members got into it over an amendment that would take that had to do with Phil hogs and shooting from helicopters. So you know, they they can get weird out there. Any sticking drawing or? Yeah. That's that's exactly right. Sometimes, you know, they get real tense, and the, you know, tempers get frayed and people people find a little bit. There's been very very little of that. And even the disagreements have been pretty civil so far, you think in their hundreds of amendments left, you think that we're just going to dismiss those amendments and move on. Yeah. The sewer three ways to set things aside, you can decide you can talk somebody out of an amendment. They have to file an immense. They had to file their amendments on the Bill by ten AM on Sunday morning. So the authors of the Bill and some of the other voices in the house have had time to try to talk people out of the more inflammatory things that probably weren't going to end up in the budget. But probably we're gonna call fi 'cause fight. There's a part of the budget called a part of any budget called article eleven which you know, the the folks on the press table refer to the bone yard of the graveyard, but you bring an amendment and they accepted into the Bill, and it goes into article. Seven which means that it's not actually in the budget. But it's attached. So that the conference committee can talk about it. If they want to the conference committee is where they reconcile whatever the house does the whatever the Senate does. And it's really a way to say I'm losing, but I'm saving faith. And then you know, members can members can always just pull things down, and they can always take their amendment. You know, I could always take an amendment that. I was planning and see that you have an amendment related to it. And I could try to attach my amendment to your mend instead of going directly to the Bill. So there's a lot of ways to cut the three hundred pages of amendments down does something a little bit more manageable. Yeah. So here's the real question when Ross Ramsey pull out of the capitol tonight. It depends on how it's going. We have a couple of reporters on the floor. Edgar Walters is the byline to watch Mawr tomorrow. He's the guy covering inch by inch. And you know, the ins and outs of the Bill. I'm really just watching the the temper of the house, see what the feelings are talk to people on the side about you know, how does what you're doing today. Play into the other two big pieces of finance this time a week from today. They're going to do the big school finance Bill in the house. And although they haven't said it yet, my guess would be that they're going to do property taxes the Wednesday after that, you get all three of those big financial pieces out of the way or out of the house by Easter the better to set them up for you know, the conversation at the end of the session with the Senate. Okay. So you may be there till two AM. Maybe. So if things get exciting Ross Ramsey's displays interesting, right? Yeah. With text Tribune every Monday Wednesday and Friday, you can read Ross Ramsey piece. There at Texas Tribune Ross, let's talk a little bit about why property tax relief may not be for all Texas tax payers. That's a big part frame that for us is how do you let me back up. Point of privilege, Mr Speaker. How do you put together a budget, but don't address the property tax relief portion I? Well, there's two things here. So there's a conversation about property taxes, and it's flits into a conversation about property tax reform and then conversation about property tax relief. So there's really sort of two areas to watch property tax reform is the conversation that we've talked about over, you know, for example, requiring voter approval anytime property tax revenues for a city or a county go over two and a half percent. And that's an idea that is about reform about limiting the the speed at which your property taxes can go up, but it doesn't cut your taxes. So the second conversation is about well if voters have been screaming about property taxes, and they have how do you cut their property tax? Now, do you go about that the house has and the Senate has legislation file that hasn't gone anywhere yet? But it's been a subject to conversation that would raise your sales taxes and. And swap the money that they raised with fails tax increases for property tax cuts. If you raise the sales tax in Texas by penny to seven and a quarter percent. Of course, locals can add two cents on top of that. But if you raise the state part of sales tax by penny it raises just over five billion dollars and just over five billion dollars is enough to cut school property taxes by about twenty cents. So that's one way it, and if you did that on a house that was had had a taxable value of two hundred fifty thousand you know, a twenty cent cut is about five hundred dollars a year. So maybe that's a tax cut that people will feel the senate's talking about one one more thing about that. That's a tax cut for everybody, you know, whether their own business property, personal property residential property, whatever it is the senate's talking about a different version of this wouldn't require a tax to go up. But they would take some of the money about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars seven hundred and fifty. Billion dollars every year from the severance tax that right now goes into the rainy day fund, and they would use that money to pay for a ten thousand dollar additional homestead exemption on property taxes and advantage to that is that you don't have to raise the tax to do it. The couple of disadvantages business doesn't like it because they don't get a property tax cut. They're basically looking at the capitol and saying so you're using a business tax the severance tax on oil and gas. It's an answer a tax break for homeowners. And they don't like that very much, and there are some people up here to who would rather see that money keep going into the state's rainy day fund, you know, which they're using right now for hurricane Harvey and people are, you know, thinking if the argument is, you know, there's going to be another hurricane Harvey or another something we ought to have money inside. Yeah. I assume Ross winter some sales tax items, it may come up things that we didn't tax before that we could. Or if it is a sales tax thing that they're talking about the sprints with just resident penny tax on the things. Your taxing fax them at a different not tax cuts. Not tax doughnuts. Right. Okay. There's another proposal. I mean, there's always a bunch of proposals. One idea is to raise the money for property tax relief by expanding the sales tax, actually doughnuts. Maybe tax non-prescription medicines. Maybe you know, over, you know, over the counter drugs one proposal would but a sales tax on gasoline, which already has a gasoline tax. So you'd be taxing attacks all of these things are, you know, whenever they do tax Bill. You know, when I first got down here in eighty nine pretty quickly after that they were doing a big tax Bill, and whenever they do a tax Bill. It's an exercise and politics where you're basically saying how much money can I raise without getting people mad enough to throw me out of awesome. And and when and when you're doing attack swap the question is a variation of that is how much more pain would people take on this tax over here in order to lower that tax over there right now sales taxes have the advantage of being kinda hidden paying a little bit. Every time you go to a cash register or a restaurant or whatever, and you don't really necessarily notice how much you pay in sales taxes over a year's time the property tax. You see the number at the end of the year, or when you're paying for when you're putting together your taxes, and it makes people's blood pressure. Go up so how much increase in the sales tax in visible as it is would people take or except in order to lower their property taxes. One of the interesting components to every one of these that I've seen is that all of them are put together in a way where the legislature wouldn't decide all the legislature would do is put the idea in front of voters and let voters decide and a constitutional amendment. Push come to shove, it'd be the voters making the decision. Ross Ramsey executive editor of the texture Muniz. We carry long interior long here on the program. One other thing I wanted to ask you about here. Ross is some of the secrets of Texas government aren't supposed to be secrets. That's your headline there. Tell us about open government in what's happening, and what people need to be concerned about here. Texas used to have on the books. One of the best open record laws. Open government Bessette of open government laws in the country. Florida's sort of noted for their where they call their sunshine laws of Texas had a great settle laws and a couple of supreme court decisions over the last two years have carved into them and to. Federal level at state level and the sexist supreme court one of them's called the Boeing decision. And it's about you know, when you've got a government contractor how much of what the government contractor does with state funds on state projects is public, and how much of it is trade secrets that that corporation can hold, you know, hold close not show, the public and the court ruled broadly speaking, the court ruled in favor of the corporation, keeping their trade secrets, and it had the effect of making a lot of things that were public information before private information that the public doesn't get the see. So you've got state money or taxpayer money being used for, you know, government uses basically that have been privatized, and you can't really see what's being done with the money. How much people are paying for this without of the other thing because of the private interests of the corporation that one the biz that's the Boeing there's another one called. The greater Houston partnership decision. It's an economic development thing in Houston, and they get some public funding. And so the question was how much of what the greater Houston partnership. Does you know, this is for corporate relocations expansions and things like that? How much of their stuff is public. They get public funds at oughta be public. It went to the spring court. And the supreme court said, basically, if you don't get enough of your funding that it's critical from the public than what you're doing is not public in the case of the greater Houston partnership. I think eight percent of their funding came from government entities courts. That's not enough. They can keep their secrets, and it put another whole any open government act to a couple of bills. This time in the house and the Senate they tried him last year, they can get them through their trying him again that would, you know, basically repair the open government laws, and you know, we're just gonna watch to go along here. So as you watching along Rossier? Four decades in here, are you concerned about this. Are there fixes it can be made that would would help us return back to the top of open meetings laws in the country. Yeah. I think you know, it depends on where you are on this stuff. I mean, everybody has you know, everybody gets an opinion on this. You could argue and people do that, you know, the stuff in the Boeing decision was correct. And they open government laws went too far. You can argue that you know, you can't do that kind of economic development. If is the behind the scenes, but you can also look at these things, and you know, these things were related you're saying on one hand that voters need to be able to roll back taxes or get an automatic election. When the city council or their county commission is raising taxes, you know, the cities in the county say, well, look, you can watch us, and you can unelected us if we do something wrong, and that's true. If they are running transparent government than you could see into what the city is doing and what the county's doing the problem with taking down transparency laws and honoring privacy, you know, among governments and the businesses that deal with governor. That's is that it takes away from tax payers and voters the ability to see into make intelligent decisions about the people. They send to the city hall to the counting commissions Austin into Washington. Ross Ramsey think you're going to be home by nine. I'm hoping I'm hoping that a cold dinner. All right. We'll just put those Twitter notifications. He's at Ross Ramsey on Twitter. Just put those notifications on let us know if anything heats up there Ross, thank you, buddy. I'd do it. All right pre sheets you Ross Ramsey. Ross Ramsey the Texas Tribune appreciate Ross's time gonna get out. Come back in the Lubbock DA's office has issued an opinion. I guess you could call it that on one is legal and what's illegal. Whenever comes a CBD oil. You're seeing the stuff fly off shelves. What is the Lubbock county? DA's office have to say, and our friend might Massara bizarre solutions got my foil out ready to make myself a hat over the break in. We'll get in with Mike bazaar stick with us right here on the other side. Then she'll off your phone. Asami made you sail. Gain searching for something steel care about again. Gain. Manny Daniel, the digital millennial guru here. That's a mouthful, you know, my friends are getting married. I'm at that age and those weddings, they should be memorable. 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Because he's one of the most intrepid reporters in the city Lubbock James pre sheet, this Lubbock prosecutors say CBD oil is illegal. If it contains THC. We have our friend might bazaar in studios. Mike, do you wanna take guests at what THC stands for all? I forget what it is. But it's the psycho part of marijuana stuff. Yeah. So it's the stuff that it's makes you mellow and has the psycho psychotic properties wherever psychotics wrong word in Tetra. Hydro can can't even know given. No, okay. So there you go Tatra t. H is the hydro- and cannabis cannabinoid all is the see everything Lubbock says that they asked the Lubbock county criminal district. Attorney is CB CBD oil is legal the DA responded. What is the deal with double spaces? That was kinda I don't know where it is out of nowhere. If you're writing on the typewriter understand why you put the double spaces. Yeah. But you're not supposed to in two thousand nineteen. You don't do that anymore? No. I still do it. Because that's how I was taught. Like, I just really likely habit. If I go back and look through our text messages. I'll see you doublespace me another text probably because that's but on a keyboard around typing on a keyboard. I think I'd still double tack on something doing that. I'm trying. I'm in a double tap automous. The whole thing is you gotta be is sustained as possible. Yeah. No double spaces. Gotta be careful with that guy that bizarre. You come in here. And you tell me some things, but I'm telling you something right now. Nowhere doublespace. Don't double space me, bro. All right. But can we agree? You're not my grandfather riding me an Email on a typewriter. No. But letter I should say, I think I grease the sinked is good. But we also need agree that there's this whole Jenner. Ration- kids that type horrifically because everything's abbreviated. And they carry that into that's true. But in delving facing isn't gonna fix that is to make it work. I think succinct, but proper is probably needs to be the statement, the Lubbock county district attorney's office releases the following statement. Is CBD oil in Texas legal in Texas question. Mark CBD oils on the market. Commonly contained THC Tetra hydro cannabis. No. THC in any concentration is illegal under Texas law pursuant to the controlled substances substances act. This however is a quickly changing area of the law. That's their way of saying we're going to rush you. But we don't know what we're gonna hold you on. A Bill is pending in the Texas legislature that if passed and enacted would legalize possession of CBD oil if the amount of THC in the oil was three percent or less bringing Texas incompliance with the two thousand eighteen federal farm Bill. Although our office has yet to receive any CBD oil cases for prosecution we continue to assess the law in facts, presented win deciding whether to prosecute a particular defendant for a particular crime, and that is in the best interest of Justice three percent or less THC. I I've never taken. See we d I have not either. But if we had we better hope that it's less than three percent. Yeah. THC? Yeah. Could be in trouble. Our friend might bizarre bizarre solutions in studio as he is each week. Glad to have them on give you your proper. Sir. So this has been monitored the the tin foil hat segment because you always bring up things that blow my mind. What what do you want to hear me wig out about today? So I think this'll be a pretty low key wheat collect people can wear regular hats this week. Yeah. And so a couple of things follow up last week. We talked about robo calls. Everybody hates him tons and tons of them. I think fifty percent of all phone calls right now are robocalls, AT and T and Comcast or working on a solution that they've been working on. And they think they'll have out next month. Verizon just came out and said, they're releasing something the end of this week. So the end of this week for is is supposed to release a new call filter app to anybody discovery is in. So they can block them on cell phones. Which would be fantastic because I hate Rhode Islanders I stopped answering calls of content. I don't have the contact information. But the first three are eight oh, six the second. Three are my prefix four three I just stopped answering those calls, and it's almost as though. Knocking on wood. They've gone way. Yeah. I've mine's gotten better since I started literally like yelling at the phone. I'd wait for it to connect. And then when there was somebody that answered I'd scream at the phone trying to get black screen. I just yell real loud at it because I was hoping to make him. But like Chris Farley did just yell at a make it real out on the end. And hopefully, and once I did, and he could hear people in the background laughing at the guy that probably dropped his phone and fell chair least that could be my hope. So anyways, I I'm trying to get blacklisted. But the other thing you can do because this happens. I did a cybersecurity talk this morning to group grouper, realtors and other people. But if you get those calls that say, they're apple tech support or Microsoft tech support or whatever it is just tell them that you're gonna go get your IT guy. And if it's a scam everyone will hang up on, you know, they just because they know what IT guy. No, I'm driving in my truck. And I'd say let me go get my TI. Yeah. They don't know. Right. And as soon as you say that they're they're done. They'll hang up, but hopefully soon this will get better since the SEC has basically told all of the phone providers. They have to figure out a solution to to this because it's such a big complaint. So Verizon's releasing something ended this week AT and T and Comcast or working on there's they start to get together. Hopefully, see some real progress and drop all these rebel calls. Yeah. Because it's just cheap and easy for bad guys. Do what is Comcast afternoon with west Texas? It doesn't it just they're part of the AT and T and Comcast or mentioned in that same article because they're working together. So okay. So they're collaborating Comcast laid down in Houston and stuff so not west Texas. But at least they're Intex is there collusion, you know, there is collusion between them. Well, so yes, the only conclusion collusion we have concluded this week is eighteen Comcast colluding against the bad guys. What's good collusion? Okay. Yeah. What else you got for me? So I'm going to wake me out. No, I think this one is funny, and April Fools is coming up. Everybody looks forward to the goofy tech, you know, like Gula one year did fiber to your house by flushing of thing down the toilet. And it would go back to Google and connect your fiber. The're toilet. And it was April Fools all these tech guys come out, and they try to do funny stuff. Some of them have backfired Microsoft came out and said, no, April Fools jokes. Can't do it. Yeah. So none of the Microsoft departments are going to be able to do it. We'll see if anybody else does because few of them have backfired, but in general, they're pretty funny. Some looking forward to it. But I cannot do some Alexa, April Fools on my kids. Maybe we'll have to see I wonder I'll do some dig in. And see I'm going to get my kids this year, April Fools. We need to find something. That'd be good to get kids. Not anything that could be like jarring light mom and dad talked about things, and we have things we win. I I don't want to go there. No. I'm just amazed at how smart and good Alexa is with the kids 'cause today home at lunch and Sam five year old asks Alexa. How many teeth pterodactyl has ninety seven? That's the answer would thought that had had. Sorry had. Yeah. Very very pestilence. That's a problem at our house is is this still real mafia listening? No. He doesn't ask if it's real. He is is it still in the world. That's good though. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good. Other. I think good news Microsoft found a bunch of Iranian hackers and got permission legally this week to sees ninety nine different domain. So they have shutdown ninety nine different websites that were related Iranian hackers that were hacking government and US companies as well as the Middle Eastern companies. So I'm more say that to know that like a lot of people don't realize Microsoft, spins a lot of time effort and money on stopping crime and the have all day. Say this. No, I just is apple have a whole digital crime unit nod as big they work together with a lot of them. But not as much Microsoft's men's a ton of money on it. And I think a lot of it honestly started from counterfeit software. They're trying to stop the people who are kinda fit into software, but it is grown into several the last big stings were they've taken down big technology. You know crime rings, Microsoft was in the lead and a lot of those. So they've done a good job. But the other thing I think that we could talk about for a while. If you want is, and I think this is interesting. It gets a little political gets a little west, Texas, and it gets a little technological is right to repair, and it's been a big deal. So right now, you don't have really the right to repair your phone if you repair your iphone, you probably void the warranty. If you don't do it through apple, right? And there's a significant portion of devices that are like that apple claims, it's because if you crack open their phone, you may ruin their trade secrets and these other things, and they have to control quality and security and from tech. Effective. I would say would not be working on. Well. So here's the problem is in a lot of people realize this, but you buy part of EBay, and you pop your phone open because you know, how to do that. And you replace it. And really that part was from somebody in China know, how to do it. I just YouTube it lets it right? But if that part came from China and wasn't an official apple part. It could legitimately be something that could harvest your data or do things you didn't expect and you willingly just plug that into your phone your, computer. So I get the tech company saying we want you to use certified parts that are from us because we want to protect your safety. The truth is a lot of the time, though, it is we want you to use our parts because we make money on it. And so one of the big ones, and this is what brings it back to west Texas is agriculture John Deere and a lot of these big companies. We'll see can't have anybody fix your equipment, but us, and if you do it voids the warranty, if you've oid the warranty on one thousand dollar iphone, it may hurt you. But you're probably not upset about it. If you do it on a hundred. Thousand or two hundred thousand dollars tractor, that's bad news. And so as much as I'm not a big fan of hers. But Elizabeth Warren is is that's one thing. She starting to stump about was right to repair, especially in the culture industry. And and I agree. I think that maybe if there's cert guidelines that you should be able to get third party people to do it there. Probably needs to be some regulation around it to make sure people aren't putting in just hodgepodge crappy parts. But if you bought that equipment, you should be able to fix it. And that's maybe the libertarian and me ever, but I just you own it. It's yours. You should be able to go fix it. Two hundred three hundred thousand dollars tractor. Yeah. You're talking about big time. Big time. I've heard I've heard farmers. Tell me that I don't really own my quick -ment that they still own it because they have the all the right to repair. And so if it's fixed, and they can't pay John Deere to fix it. Then it's broken. Why why would Republican? Nhs balk at that. I don't think that would the it's it's Tecmo her getting to the right of some Republicans. I think that's her in Iowa. Right. I mean, she's an Iowa. And she's if you're in Iowa, you wanna get farmers on your side. Switched seats right now. So I I mean lending aiding the political picture like I think right to repair is a right that we should have. But I also see remained it needs to be like John Deere. You can go get licensed from John Deere to go repairs things. And then maybe not be a specific John your technician. So I'm just a farm tractor repair guy. But I've been licensed by case John Deere and a few others. Now, I can go repair them and set my rates and find parts just like you can go buy parts for you know. Autozone. Arriving for your car. You should be able to go buy those same parts that maybe you're, you know, not John Deere branded parts, but John Deere at the same time their warranties will change if they do that. Right. I mean, they're going to minimize their risk. If all that stuff happens. So it's a sticky situation. I get it. But I don't know. I just chat my hide to have a three hundred thousand dollar tractor that was broken until the John Deere guy could fix up in charge, whatever John Deere wanted him charge. Yeah. Let me ask you about something because it Piques my interest, especially in light. Of yesterday's conversation. Accompany can always track where an employee is making social media posts. Right. Typically, I mean, if you're doing it to the company account, then they'd be able to see and it says who posted it like under one account. But what if you're working with another organization while you're at work? That to me would depend on what your agreement was. Right. And so if you're posted on social media for company b while working company, a you're getting paid to be there for company A. Okay. Right. I mean now you're supposed to legally have breaks and all that. And if he did it on your brain gut on Matlock, Matlock, look on my face right now. I'm getting set up. I feel like you're no you walk into a bear trap. And I'm not gonna drag you into it. I'm just doing some into it. But I feel like it's you should still have break time and lunch in some other stuff. And and the truth is people waste so much freaking time on Facebook. Anyways is long as you're thinking about it. My bigger thought would probably say, I am a results guy. So if you get the work done that you're supposed to get done and provide the results that you're supposed to provide. And you can get that done in four six hours. Then you don't have to be there for eight hours. Right. As long as the work's getting done. I'm I'm pretty low key about everything. My concern would be when you have an employee who's not getting the work done and his posting to other people social meteor doing other things than it would be concerning to me a disconcerting disconcerting. Yes. I don't mean to correct you with the doublespace there. Well, I paused for a little bit. Verbal doublespace cash. I'm trying to think if there's anything that I have to ask. If you on this edition of bizarre solutions right here on other side of Texas talk about Apple's announcements if you want. Yeah. But they're doing is anything groundbreaking. So eighty percent of all Apple's revenue. I think the number is this is iphone and sale phone. It is huge. Well, so apple is very much interested in diversification. So they are now releasing a new streaming video service. And they said they're spent something like two billion dollars on talent to start making original series and getting the right content signed up their own share of Netflix. Yes. Yep. So they're they're launching their own video streaming service that we'll have a lot of other content. But also, I think they're going to try to make some of their own and they're putting big big money behind it. They've released their own credit card, which I think is borderline hilarious. But if that's what they wanna do. And they're trying to drive why through apple pie wise, apple doing financial services. Like, I mean, I guess everybody, you know, Lenovo when Dell and they all have their own credit cards, and you earn points. So why not but I just feel like if you're a tech company, but. A lot of people spent like I'm just looking at the desk right now. I'm in front of a MAC a MAC desktop. Oh, I've got my ear buds pods. Apple ear buds. I've got my mouse. I'm looking at a macbook MAC air book. Yeah. We got. I've got my pad your phone to you know, I've got my apple pencil. I would be interested in ganging some points back on what they're doing is as far as I could tell is if you use. Here's the funny thing if you get an apple credit card instantly when you're approved you will get a digital credit card in your apple wallet that you can use with Apple Pay. Then they will send you a titanium card that actually it doesn't have a number or anything on it. It's a societas back to your phone, really and the rewards. And I forget if you get more back if you're buying apple stuff is two percent cashback. And it's just two percent cashback on all your stuff. That's what they're doing. But if you use the physical credit card it's one percent cashback than the other funny thing they did is. And this is you know, legal gymnastics is there are no late fees. But there are penalties and interest rates if you're late on your payments. So you're not going to get like a twenty five dollar late fee, but your interest rate could jump to. I think twenty five percent. Oh. Oh, which some much more hurtful. Hits the gut a lot harder just in the and so they're they're gonna do it. They're they're trying to what they're trying to do is diversify in get more service revenue than they are relying on iphone sales because it's a mature industry now. Right. And so when new iphone comes out, are you really? Wow. D- like, even when the new new galaxy S ten km, they'll have one or two neat things. But it's not like, I just go. The digital millennial. Guru told me like my ipad came with the different plug in in the bottom. Yeah. What is this thing called USB? See or is it lightning? No. It's USB. See? Yeah. Ending says said eventually what people what apple wants to do over time is you just plug in USB see to any unit in a apparently, it's just your passport to go anywhere. Do anything this USB? See they're trying to make the universal standard like windows and all of them are because then you can just use you as BC's windows is on it too. Yeah. They've had it for a while. I've the apple products are getting it like in the MAC books have had it for a while. And that would be the first ipads that have had it, and then like Samsung and a lot of the other Android phone guys have had it for the last year and a half. So, but then it's one charger to rule them. All right and USB is a standard. Nobody owns it. The big. Deal with apple as they own the lightning patents. So if you wanna make a generic lightening cable you have to pay apple you can't just do it. And so they've generally again because Apple's apple have locked things into their standards instead of using everybody else's because they can make more dollar bills. So it's lingua franca here. We're trying to put out a common thing for everybody. Manso USB see has been a standard for awhile. And actually even saw an ad today from Dell and they said by twenty twenty two eighty percent of all devices will have USB see, but USB see you can even do video over. So the vision is you do a USB cable from your monitor one to monitor to daisy chain together plugged into your laptop. And now with one cable of got all of these devices connected, and it makes your computer cleaner. You could charge your laptop off USB see using the monitor's power. I mean, a lot of this neat stuff that can happen with it. So USB, I think it'd be cool. Okay. So I'm not going to ask you about the daisy chain, but he is might bazaar. Bizarre solutions might tell us what bazaars solutions does in how they can get. Holy yes. So we are outsourced IT for your small to medium business. And so if you're looking for IT help and more than just Bob down the street Fichtner computers where your guys so bizarre solutions. If you were the website pops up everybody else's like in India, a solutions dot com. Mike bizarre. Hey, listen. I appreciate you. Listen to this addition of other side at Texas tomorrow, west Texas, Air Force, Dustin Johnson in these guys west, Texas, Air Force have much helicopters, and they just go in. They went down to Houston and help save a lot of people and livestock. They just flew up to the mid west where there's been record flooding in the midwest, Nebraska and other places Dustin Johnson, the come on the show with this in talk about search and rescue tomorrow. Daniel the digital millennial with this on Friday, always good to be with you gonna go home God to get home above average dinner and a great family waiting for me there at the Ponderosa the five year old. I think some. We're in the thousands of dollars on cavity on cavity. That's tough. My kids are like a number wife is like a flaw seeing Nazi I tell them. It's a sucker. Nada chewier. Yeah. See what we did? When our kids got older the they're eleven and nine right now. And we started doing this last year was they have to pay for any cavities now. This. That's a lot of allowance kid would be indentured servant on the lease in plantation for. I don't know how I don't let our kids are selling eggs, and you know, they're doing the gun cleaning. They got a few ways to make a few bucks. But it yeah. Forget grandparents houses, or whatever. But since we've said that you know, how many cavities have got zero. They're paying for cavities. So no more little Charlie's paying vers cavities home. My wife text me partial on cavities partial, we don't want people to think that we're horrible mean people. I was thinking that. Thank you, Jennifer. All right, again, they get off with you gonna go home. 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And as always telling your friends, that's what we rely on here. Just friend the friend and word of mouth on other side at Texas wherever listen from. We appreciate you tuning in as we broadcast live on AM five eighty Lubbock. The most listened to platform in the region, perhaps the state whenever you count for all you guys who tune into our podcast pre sheets doing that. I'm your host Jay west Texas Leeson rolling along here from the racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted love expense wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations for the best wash around voted the best wash around. Bob years in hub city, guaranteed racer wash dot com. Like coming up in this program. It's going to be a conversation Thursday, John Gibson, who is chairman of the Lubbock county Democratic Party gonna be joining us. What's the way forward? A lot of folks who are interested in listening to that is in John Gibson in studio. Get him just a moment. But here's one where we when the kickoff today, the atheists in the city of Lubbock gonna give the invocation. On Thursday night at the Lubbock city council meeting. This from Casey be d Lubbock read some stories. I like kacie b slant the best because it sets me up to hit some T-ball home runs here on the program. Dateline Lubbock, the Lubbock city council agenda Garner's some attention at times. But this week. It's not for what's on the agenda tool. Be speaking during the usual time of prayer known as the invocation. It was announced last fall at a local atheist group would be given would be giving the invocation sometime in January of this year. And now is set in stone that members of the atheist community of Lubbock that's an official group. I've not looked up on Facebook. But it's the atheist community. A Lubbock will be speaking before the city council. Members this Thursday. He'll be led by their communications in public relations director, Tracy benefit. Now, let me go out on a on a branch here in say, I bet she doesn't get paid very much as I say about liberals in the city Lubbock the chairman in studio may disagree with me more aborigines in Lubbock than there are real liberals. And I would think even the less atheists in Lubbock, but Tracy benefit to do the invocation. Quote. We know there's a lot of people in our group who have lost everything when they come out as atheists. So we want to de stigmatize what it means to be atheists said benefit benefits said she will use the time to invoke ideas, invoke invocation. Invoke ideas. Quote, we are most mostly going to be talking about how we need to come together. As a city, we are the friendliest city in America eight that's what's on the billboards can't descru- Benfield there. We need to think about every minority in Lubbock in thinking about how we can work together. So. So every minority is being carried under the banner of the atheists getting the I don't know what how minorities I'm sure if I reached out to a few of them. They would have a problem with being represented by the eighth easiest, but that's what benefits says we need to be thinking about every minority in Lubbock and thinking about how we can work together. The option of having an atheist give the invocation was announced back in the fall. This has had mixed reaction. Now, listen, it was announced back in the fall that the option would be open. I think. In call me whenever you may. But I think the con- the constitution of these United States gives that option I think that that was announced like way back in the eighteenth century that that option would be open quote. It doesn't really stick within the definition of an indication because it is calling to someone else. If you don't believe there is someone else than you're speaking into the air said Jeff MC Reich, pastor of wrought city church. Jeff mcbride. Following local politics as I do fancies himself on being a political thorny on all things. God centered MC right saying that they're just going to speak into mid air. But I don't know how wrong he is there than I wanna read the rest of this. And we'll break it down benefit explained that an invocation doesn't always mean. Prayer quote. Most people are familiar with a prayer being an invocation, but in invocation doesn't mean prayer those words aren't synonymous an invocation simply means to ask someone or something for help mayor Dan pope emits, it was even a little confusing for him. Quote, first question was I really don't understand who atheists pray to but the more I looked into it. My intuition is that constitution protected their rights in the end. He hopes the community finds a way to accept it quote. I think part of west Texas of part of the west Texas value system is that we are not judgmental. We take care of our neighbor. And we love our neighbor, whatever they may believe they Theus community of Lubbock will give the invocation coming up on Thursday, forty eight hours from where we broadcast live here. Thursday at five fifteen pm couple of things to riff on here. As I look through all this. I don't think that benefit is wrong. I think that she is right in that in imitation means to ask someone or something for help. That's intrinsically what an invocation is to beseech or invoke someone or something for assistance or thority. But. An atheist which means a non theorist someone who doesn't believe in something higher than they must be praying for ideals or principles or whatever the case might be. I know a lot of people who treat treat the constitution. As though were God that they're praying to thing or something not someone, and you know, listen, I'm pretty devout guy. I've got my shingle on the wall. I'm. I've done my theology degree in its Wesleyan, by the way. Methodists Wesleyan, but more Wesleyan Methodist, I don't wanna get into the weeds there. But I sat through a lot of public prayers in gotta tell you. I mean, just being honest with you raven on with you. I hear a lot of public prayers and lots of times, I'm holding my hand my head and my hands in ring among thumbs. Because once you get into public prayers, you get into the weeds of the Olivetti, and is as a Wesleyan as somebody who's trinitaria n- if we're gonna do prayers in this country. You know, I don't believe that the country was founded as a Christian nation. I think it was founded by people who had here to Christian principles, but Yay. Get in the public prayers. I think that there's a reason why we stopped doing it. Because I've heard a lot of good Baptist kids give a prayer before the football game. But, you know, also heard in those Baptists kids prayers is a lot of adoption ISM subordination ISM monarchism. And if you don't know what any of those 'isms are just go Google them. For me. The belief is. That you've got three persons of one substance in that's trinitaria, Missouri. That's the nice seeing creed. Those are the classical creeds, but you can hear a lot of prayers in here that Jesus the son of God is something other than the father of God in that creates a problem in. So I was talking to a the earlier who said no is there a law that says you can't have more than two invocations like maybe we can back up the atheists here in have our own invocation. I don't think that there is a log ins that. But how many people do you want giving invocations at a public meeting where all you want to get done is just the agenda that to me is the issue is. Well, okay. So you're going to have atheist prey than the Mormons prey, then the Jehovah's Witness pray, and then a Catholic pray and then the Baptist. Pray just to make sure that you get it all covered over. I don't blame the love, and I don't understand the voter cycles. And this is something that Ross. Ramsey our friend from the texts Tarim talks about I don't understand why there's not a bigger uproar about this. But the same time I'm glad there's not an uproar about this. Because nobody wants to go to a city council meeting and listen through thirty minutes of invocations. I don't for atheists. This is what I will say this the old far side cartoon to fleas. Standing somewhere one standing up against the follicle a hair follicle that looks like a big palm tree trunk coming out of the body of something. In one flea looks at the other fleeing and says, so he really believe there's a a dog in. That's what I think I think it takes a lot of faith to be an atheist, and whatever they might say, whatever they might invoke. I'm sure that they're going to invoke principles in for us to have the the better graces of one another. I'm sure that's the route that they're going to go but new day in Lubbock county in the city of Lubbock that eighty eight Theus get the invocation to invoke something or someone for assistance or authority look forward to hearing what they have to say, they're at the Lubbock city council. Somebody else who had looking forward to what they had to say. John gibson. He is Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman. We're gonna have a good conversation coming up those you who younger like I am wondering what's happened in two thousand eighteen is there even the possibility of viable two party system in Lubbock in the surrounding area. John Gibson, somebody good to talk to about that. We'll be in with John gives about ninety seconds from now stick with us right here on the other side of Texas will get him John. What? Some. The Jags all the stars up in the sky. So. In studio with us. We have John Gibson in. He is the Lubbock county democratic chairman preciado him making time to come out with us here. John gibson. Your your debut here on the show, tell us how your I'm doing good. I was on the road yesterday. And I missed your show has Daniel the millennial gut near the new digital studio. Or is he he's working on his working on? It is em- process right now some things to do in and out. Appreciate you checking on the progress of the show Daniel is in process, and if he's listening let that be motivation to Daniel that listeners are wondering what your progress is you got the ipad over there. Yeah. I need some the second generation. I have no third. I have no idea. I think it's the second. Yeah. I'm terrible with names. And so it helps if I've got notes. Yeah. You got twelve inch. That's when I run the program off of okay? Yeah. Got mon. But I got it in the a defender there. There by author box because I don't have young children or you don't have young children. I do so. Okay. So there there's a point of mutual concern. John weather people going to do let me give you my breakdown. My breakdown is that in you, disagree with me as you may. I think if Beddoe Rourke had not taken some unprompted unnecessary stances. He could have become the next you Senator now people read into in because he lost by less than three points. If he hadn't taken the stand that he did on the flag and kneeling at the flag. Then I think that he could had a lot more people come his way. But that was easy Pickens. Ted Cruz ran as ruthlessly in west Texas in rural regions of west Texas during Sunday night football, Monday night football of a a veteran who. Lost his legs stand for me. Stand. For me took a lot of cues that made me wonder is running for president as a run running for Senate. But we're guardless of that he still lost by less than three percent. I would think that as a chairman of an I'm just gonna say, you're chairman of the eleventh largest county in Texas. What your folks feel like in what you alike is the way forward, they're given the progress unprecedented progress since the state went Republican well first off I think there's a difference between what Beto did. And what some of our local candidates did. I mean, we gotta be honest locally. We didn't do probably as well as we would have wanted to given the fact that but oh made the showing he made you talked about Beddoes success or lack thereof barely missing out. I don't think there's ever any one thing that causes a politician to lose an election. There's usually multiple factors. I have complained some about this with respect to bed. Oh, I think that had he done what what's called the hero's journey. You do hauteur and fifty four county tour and got all these different counties. And then you come out of it, a new person you come out of it. And you say, well, I visited the cotton farmers in lamesa. And I learned this about. About this. And so now, here's my new policy point on this or I went to the timber farms and east, Texas, the sawmills, or whatever you come out of that. And you change your policies somewhat. You don't have to change a great deal, but you change somewhat that would have been beneficial. I don't think the the whole standing for the flag, and that sort of thing, I think that that would have cost him votes on the democratic side had he changed positions on something like that. But the chain. That's my question though. Joe that's just he didn't change. No. He took an unprompted stance. Right. And it it excited a lot of people. I don't think you can fault him for that. I think there's there's a lot of people on our side that were really invigorated by his stance. But I'm saying that had he gone and taking a taken a stance after doing his two hundred fifty four county tour where he says okay now, for instance, I'm gonna go ahead and vote for the farm Bill, even though the rest of democratic colleagues aren't vote for the farm Bill, for instance, that might have gotten him some. Or favorite west, Texas, didn't right? But he didn't. That's what I'm saying. Okay. You know, there's things like that. There's things like I know that millennials like to drop f bombs right and left, and it's cool for a millennial to do that sort of thing. But you know, it doesn't cost you votes to clean up your language. You don't lose anything. But you see that more as a liability to him than the flag stands prompted when you're only talking about losing by three percent. Every little thing counts. You know, you're talking about something with the flag that might have been a a a it's one of the things that you're gonna make a break you, and I don't think you're gonna get a whole bunch of Republicans to go and say, oh, you know, what I'm gonna vote for Beto. Because now he's or because he's taking a position with the fruits of the flag that I like that's the hard core. Okay. You're talking about the interest people. I think for the interest people you get some little a lady in Arlington, Texas, for instance, who's about. To be in a nursing home. And she hears this drop an f-bomb. She may like him. She may go boy, he looks like like, you know, Bobby Kennedy, and I like that guy. But then he says something that offends her will then she's not gonna vote for it or maybe post. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Pose? And and that's just sit you got west of I thirty five where he struggled. I think there are some people within the Democratic Party who look at it and go, well, he didn't get enough Hispanics out. Well, okay. Yeah. That may be one factor too. There are all kinds of different things that could put him over that three percent fresh oil. No, no one single factor. Did it for him? But there are a number of things could have tweet. My view is Hettie tweaked that children fit four county tour and heady cleaned up his language a bit. It would have helped me to make the case for him with with my contact with the people that I regard well in the circles that I run if you've got somebody who's out there dropping f bombs it gets really really hard to go to church and say, hey, this is this is the guy you need to be supporting people are turned off by that. Even though they may like the message, even though they may like a lot of the things he saying it's hard to get over things like that. Yeah. So John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chair. He came in this role. How John e been here since ninety three. So a lot of millennials. You could say I've been here longer than you've been alive. Yeah. But you came in. Roll hal. I sometimes question that myself. I have always been politically active in the sense that in the local people here know this. I was the youngest person ever elected to a countywide office in the Harris County GOP Harris County Republican party that was back when I was in college, my wife, and I were married at the time. When did you get elected to I was the I was on the candidate selection committee. Okay. So like, we've got this guy that we recruited run for district judge there in Harris County that he went on to become attorney general, and and you may know him, Greg Abbott. He's now in the governor's office. You know, that's one of our recruits Ted POE who was recruited for run for judge. And then he was congressman Dan Crenshaw just took his place. I think I'm I'm terrible with names in Crenshaw thinks dozen the patch cabbage. Anyway, did that head sort of a falling out in the sense that? It's the same thing everywhere. I think with the GOP too far to the right? They get a little bit. Theocratic all or you know, you get into these kinds of things where it's just pretty hateful and ugly. And I didn't like that. Anyway, came up here for law school American meal, shoe gal, and she insisted that we come here for law school and bought a house. And so that tied to Lubbock to where I wasn't going to leave and my wife has happy with that. And then in the meantime, I really wasn't really excited about the Republican party here in town because it seemed to be the same way what I'd encountered in Houston and was voting democrat democratic because that was where my values seem to be going. And then over the years, I've just been more and more to the point where I felt like I really needed to take more of an active role in the political process, and excuse me, I got involved the Lubbock Democratic Party. And like I said, they sort of know my background. And so everybody knows that. I'm something of a centrist when it comes to comes to democratic values and principles and whatnot. And and the party faithful here elected me chairman. So that's how you got here. Yeah. So here, so I wanna do only take a quick break. And then I wanna get him with you on what the way forward is. We've just talked about Beddoe in his imprint and the sort of gains that were made gains that and maybe disagree with me gains throughout the state, especially in suburban and urban areas, but not felt here. So maybe in suburban and urban areas they feel like it's best to go further into. Democratic platform dogma, but can Lubbock do the same in still get some results will give them with John Gibson on that is he takes drink water. We get into the break. You're listening to other side of Texas about ninety seconds. We'll be right back with you KRLD. Love. Do the sound. Jones. Fans knew. Have on the air with us. John Gibson who is the Lubbock county Democratic Party chairman people take offense to. Democrats being called democratic they to say, the Lubbock county democrat party talked to us about parlance there. I have no idea where that comes from people. Tell me that Rush Limbaugh is the one that started that I'm old enough. I remember the world before Rush Limbaugh. And and back whenever I was in college, the professors would complain about that sort of thing. I don't I really complain that it should be called democratic or democrat both. Okay. Because unlike what a lot of Republicans believe when you go to college, and you're in the political science department. They aren't all raving liberals, you've got conservatives in the political science departments to and I would have conservative professors that would insist that you call it democrat, and I'd have liberal professors, call it democratic you insist on just whatever comes out of my mouth grad democratic I get some of my some people will will correct me at times because I happen to make the mistake of saying. Democrat at times, but democratic Democratic Party. I I don't say democrat party at that sounds kind of silly. I would say Democratic Party. I mean, but it's it's semantic quibbles. I don't I don't get caught up in those kinds of games. Yeah. Okay. So I tried to get you caught up in that game. But you stiff arm there, John Gibson. But you are an attorney sure. Yep. Okay. What do you practice worker's comp? Okay. So guys mostly guys getting injured out in the oilfield. I've got an office. No Desa, and I spent a lot of time out. No Desa, but I love Lubbock. And this is where we raised our family, and this is where I wanna live. But yeah, the injuries the work is out in out in the oilfield. So so, but also you run out of DFW as well from time to time. Yeah, I've got an office in Fort Worth too. So okay. That to say, we don't have just some schlumpy sittin here. You know, it's not like it's not like there's a guy who just ran for Democratic Party chair who doesn't really do anything. I mean, you're an accomplish your accomplished within your profession. I'm. I'm blessed to have good clients that have given me some good cases and had some good success with that. So what's the way forward? John. Are we going to see the Democratic Party because you know, I say this all time we rave on in the program in always say, I'm non adherent. I'm not a devout adherent, I vote Republican, but I'm not a devout adherent to either party. And I think a lot of people listening program. I'm thirty nine people who are younger than me who if we go through and we look at the demographics and who's listening to the podcast. I think it'll show that the not devout adherents either in. I think a lot of people are wondering what this Lubbock county Republican party do. Now, we can critique Beto all day long. But in day moss by less than three points. Does the Lubbock county Democratic Party look that is cute run further to the left. Or run more to the middle. You know, I don't know with respect to the state party. I can tell you that here locally. I think that one of the reasons why I got elected was because I am more of a moderate. And I think that we were elected win. I think June. I think okay. So this is before all the November hullabaloo area. Yeah. But anyway, yeah. Here. Locally the problem that we have is. We've got thirty percent versus seventy percents. I mean, that's just the fact and we can slowly over time road that thirty percent or erode the seventy percent and gain numbers off the thirty percent. But what the Democratic Party here is primarily right now as a watchdog for the Republicans. And so yeah, I want to see my Republican legislators do well because I live in this community. And I like you I'm somebody who believes in the politics of place, and I want my Republican legislators to have success for the south plains. You know, Bob Duncan. I know Bob Duncan. He's a he's a good guy thought he did a really really good job state Senator is pointed at his campaign side. Yeah, you've got you've gotta sign here. There were times when I disagreed with what Senator Dunkin might have have, you know, legislated. However, I appreciated the fact that he was a statesman. We have local politicians that I don't believe are in the same class as Robert Duncan. And so therefore, it is the it is incumbent upon the local Democratic Party to hold our politicians feet to the fire and say, look when you go to a league of women voters breakfast, and you say that we don't really need to pay attention to renewable energy, for instance, when for crying out loud who said that. One of our one of our three put it that. Okay. One of our three said, we don't need to be paying attention to renewable energy fossil fuels is is where we're going to focus our attention. Okay. That's fine. But that's that's just. That stupid. I mean, Lubbock has more sunshine and more wind than probably anywhere else in the country. And why are we not going to go and pay attention to renewable energy in this area? The reason why that's important is tucked any millennial, and they're going to tell you man, my future's at stake. You people aren't paying attention to global warming and my future's at stake. And I wanna party that pays attention to environmental issues. Well, democratic party's gonna be paying attention to that. And but here locally, we're going to be holding our local politicians accountable win. They don't engage in that politics. A place, for instance, and pay attention to renewable energy here. Fossil fuels. You know, if you're down in Odessa fossil fuels are important fossil fuels aren't important in Lubbock county. That's we're the we're the pump jacks going low accounting. You don't see any what you do see your win meals, and we need to be paying attention to renewable energy here in this county. So anyway, like, I say. And I think that one primary function that we need to be engaged in is holding our legislators feet to the fire and making sure that they are engaged in politics place. The other thing is is I'm a generation xer. I'm assuming you are to somewhere in the. You know, my generation is nothing more than a placeholder for the next generation the millennials are gonna come along. And what we're seeing you. You had the the professor from tech last week that was talking about southern politics. He didn't talk about generational politics. And we were in the middle of a generational shift. Where a lot of new issues are coming up with millennials that need to be addressed. And one of the things that we need to be doing here. Locally is we need to be recruiting good candidates candidates. That are have character charisma, and competency, you might have seen Claire mccaskill have the interview on. I think it was dateline couple months ago where it was like the exit interview. And and a lot of the people in Democratic Party were pooh-pooh in her responses because she's more of a conservative democrat, and she was complaining about the Democratic Party saying we pay attention too much to identity politics, which I would agree. We do we need to get away from identity politics guards. What in what regards? Do we pay too much attention identity politics? Just speaking personally and not on behalf of the party. I was a supporter of injury white. I thought it was silly for the for the powers that be done in Austin to look at the at the ticket and go. Wow, we got a bunch of white, you know, bunch of white man on the ticket. We need to go out and get somebody who isn't a white male. Well, you know, we saw what happened with Luba Valdez just got a bum. Steer ward him, the texts monthly round of the poorest run campaigns. But still within thirteen points, and I will concur with you there chairman why? Still within thirteen points. She still came within thirteen points at sixteen points. Well, no, I mean, she got trounced by thirteen points, L K. Well compared to Wendy Davis. It's pretty good. I mean, that's my standard there. That's a last serious quote unquote serious candidate. And I appreciate you corrected me. But but again what we're talking about there. If we're talking about the entity politics run campaign. He even ran ads from this radio. They never asked me for permission. But they ran ads. Yeah. My show about what a disaster. She was right. No. I saw the ads. No. But that shit that was identity politics get away from the identity politics. Let's get character, competency, and charisma. Let's get candidates that have those characteristics. And who cares if they're black white Christian, Muslim, Brown, Latino, whatever whatever is praying. At the Lubbock county or Lubbock sitting, you know, if they got character charisma incompetence more power to them. Let's get them regardless of their gender. Any of that kind of stuff? We need candidates that have those qualities, and so part of what I have to do is is I have to identify those people in our community that have those qualities that also have the same values that we have in the Democratic Party, and we need to you know, we need to be encouraging those people to get involved and growing those people within the democrat. So you just said you personally speaking is that not a feeling within the the mainstream of the Lubbock county Democratic Party. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I'm giving my personal opinions. And I'm not speaking on behalf of the of the party proper. You've had meetings since the election. Sure is that a fair sampling of what you're saying. No, that's that's my. Personal tirade that. I just went on. Yeah. That's not. So then I would think you as chairman or saying, hey, guys, we've got to begin to appeal to the middle. We have an opportunity here. And maybe that is or is not being hurt. Lubbock is a very unique place. It's it's it's a. Lubbock presents a number of challenges. We had one candidate in the last election who was dyed in the wool Bernie Sanders. Democrat we had another candidate who was more of a Jon tester much more conservative democratic candidate. Our are Bernie Sanders candidate lost forty percent to sixty percent are Jon tester style candidate lost twenty five percent to seventy five percents. But to be fair. Yeah. That wasn't just you're Bernie Sanders was in Lubbock, right? Your tester was in seven different counties. One of which was Lubbock county in that just a sliver. But the thing is is when you talk to the when you talk to the party faithful and party faithful are always the people who are going to be all the hold on. Let me just because what we're talking about his drew Landry right now. Okay. The tests candidate, right and everybody knows that that district is takes tech terrorists in it. Takes six rural counties to devastate. Right tech terraces in everybody knows anything about Lubbock. He might be listening. Suddenly tech terrorists. A lot of tech administration. A lot of tech professors much more nuanced area in just two. It's like a peace symbol. It comes down nineteenth university to Indiana intakes out like a peace symbol out on the south loop. And then takes in three counties to the west three counties to the east, right, but okay that for context go ahead to me if I'm. Lubbock county democrat. I'm not looking at sixty percent versus seventy seven because those districts are weighted in in a fashion that don't lead to the sumptious that might be being made. Well, I think that some people in Lubbock might look at this and say well are Bernie Sanders. Style candidates did so much better that where the party needs to go. I would argue that. Instead, we need to be looking at Beddoe and look at how Beto did statewide, and we need to be saying that here within the rural metropolis of of Lubbock we need to be fashioning a candidate that can win locally more in the style of a better Rourke, then perhaps a Bernie Sanders or Octavio always want call her Octavio detail because huge Houston Astros fan and Octavio doto tell with Astro. We'll see what whatever. I o c. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, I would like to see us move in more of a of a moderate direction. I don't think there's any secret to that. But at the same time, I do see why there are people in within my party that are more of the far end on the left. You know, a lot of people have been getting left out in this economy and. And even then it just like, I'm literally rolling my fingers through my hair is say this. Yes, you're my head saying there are classical democratic issues public education agriculture. Yeah. Medical access to health care. Right. The classical that you could run on run on strongly unabashedly in leave the Cussing to the side leaves the flag kneeling to the side and gain a larger audience. I one hundred percent agree with that get anything else we need to get in with you how I mean. I could talk to you about politics for hours. But but no there's nothing you'd have to miss a couple of your commercial breaks or something we can with. So how often do you guys meet in? If people are interested in joining in with the Lubbock county democratic process how. How can they do? So well with any to do is they need to go to our website or you can find us on Facebook Lubbock Democratic Party on Facebook. And just messages, that's easiest way we meet quarterly, plus a few more meetings throughout the year. In fact, we've got a meeting next Tuesday at seven o'clock if anybody wants to show up it's over the Democratic Party headquarters is over behind target on the south loop useless there in the little office park. That's there. So just cross to the south from the science spectrum right right right directly behind the science spectrum and fifty s fifty yard line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, John Gibson. I appreciate you coming out and fill in some difficult questions. I wouldn't expect less from you. But I appreciate you doing that. Thanks for having me. I think that you're willing to talk about issues in ways that others aren't in. We appreciate your time going to get into a quick break here. About ninety seconds. Get back with you here on the other side of Texas close out the program tell you what's going on the rest of the week cliff Kingsbury gonna be head coach of the Zona. Cardinals was is happening get in with that and more as we roll along here on your other side. Yes. Agreeing though. Great conversation there with John Gibson Lubbock county Democratic Party. He is not a crazy, which is why he makes an appearance on the program and just hear the guy out in if you're about place above party in the wanna know what's going on John Gibson's. Good guy. Preciado him come in. And quite frankly, taking some fastballs. I appreciate him VM willing to do that in. If there are people within the Lubbock county Republican party dwindling and membership. I'm glad for them to come on as well. Help them glad to help them with their membership. I know that I know that the Lubbock county Republican parties like in full fledge moderating force, and maybe their pride isn't so bad that they can come on the program and have talk about why people all of a sudden they're talking about place in while. They're talking about fiber fuel in. And the food in just glad to have yawned because the old sticking points old talking points aren't working any longer the segment brought to you by Lubbock foul room, providing safe and secure documents storage to Lubbock and the surrounding area since nineteen ninety two for free and hassle free estimate. Give Lubbock foul room, a call Lubbock foul room dot com. Eight oh, six seven four four seven six six six today. Today, the Texas house names Dennis bond and new speaker on opening day this from the Texas Tribune. Gray fog descended on awesome Tuesday morning, but the scene inside the Texas capital was one of colorful festivities to Mark the first day of the eighty six biennial legislative session. Give props were there. Do this is Cassandra Pollick? Edger welcomers Walters. Excuse me. Alec Samuels ima Plata f- there at the texts Tribune amd, perhaps the heartiest celebration took place in the Texas house where lawmakers walked in hollered after the and unanimous election of state Representative despondent as speaker. Baden's election marks new era of leadership in the lower chamber for the first time in a decade, the Angleton Republican. In that's important Angleton. Because now the big state the big three are from the Houston proximity. The Lieutenant governor the governor and the speaker of the house Angleton Republican replaced. Former house speaker Joe Straus who announced in October two thousand seventeen they would not seek reelection. Strauss's San Antonio Republican was elected in two thousand nine held record tying five terms in the house is top seat. Five terms in tying. With mabul. We hear me pound Muhart. Pete laney. Whereas Strauss was known as a mild mannered leader Bonnin has developed more of a combatants reputation in the house. He seemed to lean into that perception in his remarks never seen the use in sugar coating things, I am a direct. I am direct in. I am problem-solver while makers praised his leadership ability in a series of speeches preceding, the vote state Representative Sephora Neha Thompson, a Houston democrat with forty five years of experience in the house juris standing ovation for her remarks enrich, she said Bonnin quote. As learned the ins and outs of the Texas house as well as anyone I've ever served. The new speaker pledge to keep the Texas legislature from getting quote caught up in things that don't lend to real results in quote, hashtag bathroom Bill. He named public school. Funding is his top priority. In addition to school safety, combating, human trafficking and reforming property tax collection. He went so far as to replace the drinking cups in the house members lounge with one's reading quote. School finance reform colon the time is now in quote, you'll be reminded that every day bond and said bonds election was hardly a surprise. He was announced here. He first announced he had the votes become the next leader of the lower chamber in November working behind the scenes to assemble the transition team into our staff to assume the speaker's office in closing remarks after asking for unity amongst house members. He gave a tearful tribute to his father recalling some advice from the elder Bonnin who passed away in two thousand seventeen let's be sure when we adjourn Sanni die. That's the last day of the legislature. We leave this house and the state better than we found it. There's a saying we have in Texas is Texas goes so goes the nation. Governor Greg Abbott praised him. And then there were other scenes in the Texas Senate, which were less important, shall I say in not of course, they were important but less newsworthy as what went on the Texas house. I wanna go on record in say, I'm rooting for Guinness Bonnin mall accounts rate, man, great leader. And may he give his members in that let in that branch on that floor the ability to vote their districts in may they both their districts ever, boldly, not for political favor, not four getting points on scorecards, but doing better made they to tag onto Dennis bond and leave their districts of better place in they found them may they do just that eight. Tomorrow on the program. We've got Ross Ramsey. He's going to cover all the scenes and sites from today. Also, our friend might bazaar. Did you know that they're putting Amazon Alexa and toilets now not into Elit, but toilets said are quipped with Alexa. This is one other nations hate us in. It's why we're so great. 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Jay, west Texas Leeson, thanks for tuning in one friend that you hang out on the other side of Texas as we get going here approaching mid week from the studios were Waylon Jennings. Smoked all sorts of things in where buddy Holly became famous get to buddy Holly here in just moment. Coming up in a few minutes. We've got gene hall from Texas farm bureau gonna talk about imminent, domain and issues pertaining to eminent domain in this Texas legislature legislative session that is ongoing and then coming up about five thirty our friend, Wes Rappaport Rappaport reports everything going on and Austin that you need to know about you wanna be a part of the program. You can Texan are Texana eight oh six and four five fifty eight hundred ask questions as we do roll along here. Buddy. Holly. Speaking of ROY orbison and buddy Holly, hologram tour announce already have Daniel the digital millennial guru looking into tickets for this catch the rock and roll dream tour in North America and Europe this year again from pitchfork dot com. Roy orbison and buddy Holly will tour together as holograms this year as billboard reports. That performances will see the reincarnated singer songwriters backed by a full live band in live backing vocalist. The rock and roll dream tour will Mark the first time production company base and B A S E all in caps base. Hologram. We'll run concurrent dates for the same hologram Ming that fans in North America and Europe will theoretically be able to catch the orbison in Holly holograms on the same night living with different living musicians accompanying them fund the European dates below. Pitchfork is apparently European. We couldn't get anything better than that in show. Prep to figure out where they would be would you rather go to a buddy Holly hologram? Concert. Or to watch texts tech in the Sweet Sixteen. That's. Pretty significant question. I. I think I would. Given the history that place. Texas Tech in Anaheim or to a buddy Holly hologram. No, I don't know where that we pulled up the billboard link. I don't know where buddy Hollywood play in North America. But I see Bill fest in the United Kingdom Liverpool. Lots of union kingdom stops. In fact, everything I see there are United Kingdom stops Dublin. Ireland is will. You know, which gets me to thinking, my my gray. My grandfather did all this work on ancestry dot com. And then. Died in didn't have his password. We don't know what he spent all that time doing towards the end of his life funding, all his generational leads. I love my grandfather. John Thomas Leeson, the third, but. It's a pretty significant mistake to do all that work in. Then nobody has the password. I just got to thinking about that. With Ireland is doing all the work on the ancestry dot com. And his promise me that he will leave his password behind so that we can trace that Leeson genealogy. But anyway, back to the matter hand, I think I would take. Knowing that the same buddy hologram could be played over and over again. This is final decision. Buddy. Same buddy Holly hologram could be played over and over again. I'll take Texas Tech in Anaheim. That's what I'd rather. Go watch takes stick in the final four. Then the buddy Holly to were four now. Plus, she know it'll be everywhere on the internet. The final decision bleeding red and black not buddy. Holly hope you'll forgive me. Hope you come to the same conclusion gonna get out. Get gene hall on the line talked about the imminent domain in Texas. We kick off this addition of the program stay right where you are. He is gene whole the PR guy with the with Texas farm bureau that Twitter hashtag is t- X PR guy. Right. I'm not overplaying. That's Jane, Texas, egg PR guy was the idea, and they the idea being when I first got on Twitter some years ago that that I would be an advocate for agriculture and speak for Texas agriculture and j that's something. I've certainly tried to do maybe out to take another look at they hadn't at the handle. There may be a bit presumptuous knits. It's T X AG. So yes. Yeah. So let's talk for a minute about 'em. Don't mean, this is all the talk right now. What are we gonna do, you know in this policy this federal policy the state policy? We've covered plenty about the speed train running from. Dallas to down the Houston your stance. Gene hall farm bureau's stance on imminent domain. We believe and I'm glad everyone's talking about it. Because it's high time we talked about it, Texas loves to to talk the talk about being a property rights state, but we have failed to walk the walk. We have some some really serious issues here. In terms of fairness, we have private companies largely that's what these bills in the legislature are about that are not being fair with landowners that that come out with a certain sense of intimidation, and landowners are being taken advantage of. And we're doing our best to try to inject some fairness end of the process. Landowners, whether they're members of farm bureau or not. Yes. We we like to think that we're advocating for all property owners in Texas, and one of the things we'd like for your listeners to know is that just because you live in an urban area doesn't necessarily mean you're not going to be affected by eminent domain. I have heard people read back to me that this is just a normal business transaction. Well, it's not if one party can't walk away from the table, then it's not a normal business transaction, we would like to see some things NA law that have to deal with low ball offers. And and we know what the other side says. But we believe there are a lot of them and they're consistent. Nobody's keeping a record of such things. But we we do here of a lot of cases, we want some transparency in the process if you're a government entity taking private property, then you have to hold a public hearing. If you're a private company doing that. There's no such thing. We don't believe the process would be heard by more transparency. Gene whole have you been involved in the high speed rail between Dallas and Houston? I guess we have been then our issue with the high speed rail is is not over imminent domain into the fair. I don't think they've used that yet. One one court denied them the right to use it. And I'm sure we'll hear more about that we oppose the existence of the high speed rail, and it has to do with our farmer, and rancher members that are along the route we believe it would be highly disruptive. That's what they tell us there access issues. It's it's very similar reminds me a lot of the trans Texas Carter. I know you remember that that there were stories about people not being able to access their property. Even though they may physically be only a few yards away, but have to travel miles to get to it. We believe that it reflects that. And there's a lot of similar issues with a high speed rail. Speaking more broadly in generally in the legislature this time around into. Thousand nineteen. What are you looking at with him domain in? What are you trying to procure for the future and future Texans? Dwayne Barnes has introduced a Bill in the house. It's still in committee. A Bill did come out of the committee, the one introduced by Senator lowest co course, out of brenham, and that Bill we support it has many of the things that we originally asked for as a way to deal with low ball offers as a way to have public hearings in a transparent process things like damages to the remainder of your property. You know, a pipeline running through does it just affect that narrow swath of land. It it affects the entire property is the what you can build and the value of it when you might sell it, and so on and and what we have found is a landowner who might be all alone in this process. If he doesn't ask for simple things like when you fill the thing back in put the topsoil on top. If he doesn't ask for those kinds of things chances. Are he won't get them? Now, there are some good actors out there. I don't mean to. Paint with that broad brush. But clearly there are enough bad actors that we're getting the complaints in. And we're seeing the issues. Well, so tell me this then gene for folks who have never dealt with this. What is the low ball offer? You you've mentioned that a couple of times. What's a low ball offer? Look like, you said one party is able to leave the table one's not. Domain shirt? Go ahead. Right. Yeah. That's imminent domain. You don't have any choice once a thority with that taking power watcher land. They will get it. There's we don't have any any bottom line issues with eminent domain. We may not like it. But it's been part of our legal system for longer than we've been a country. And so there are public goods, and and certainly the oil and gas industry that is opposing us on this. We that we consider them our friends, Texas needs this infrastructure to move power and energy from one place to the next. We believe they can afford to be fair. We don't believe it's gonna cost them in time and treasure to to have to comply with some extra rules when they regards taking property, but what tends to happen is the land man or someone will come out and get out of a truck with the logo of a well-known energy. Company on the door. And they will present this paper says we're taking your land. You don't have any choice. We're taking it because we can sign here and far too. Many of these things are signed on the hood of the pickup, we would advise Eighty-one in this process to obtain legal representation as many people consider that just the first step to figure out where you're going. And when these companies are challenged when the taking entities are challenged a lot of times are people win in court. But they're still out all of the expenses of it. I've had people on the other side tell me, well that proves the process it's working. Yes. If you don't consider the six figure legal bills, you know, no doubt. There would be six figure so to comply with extra rules. Your sounds to me, gene. Like, what your point of view is what farm bureau's point of view is is on the imminent domain question. There can be accommodations made that need to be made in order to protect the landowner. That are not being made. Now is that? What course Bill does. Yes, it does. And the the low ball offers. We would just like a little bit more structure and the law to to mandate or require an honest to good offer. Currently, there's no appraisal required initially one happens later, but a lot of times the dock. Already signed before any of that happens, and the offer is accepted, and and many times people don't know. And there isn't kind of a factor of intimidation going on there. You know, you're up against an adversary with a really deep pockets that's willing to take you to court to get what they want, but these projects are multi year planning projects. And I and I have heard some folks tell me, well, this is going to bring the entire pipeline industry or energy industry to a grinding halt. Well, we believe that that's nonsense that you couldn't work a public hearing into this multi year process just kind of defies the imagination. I don't know. How anyone could be expected to believe that soon gene a couple of ticks already in going to ask you about this because I think it's pertinent to the conversation. What about the border and the border wall? Then. What do you? We had on the imminent domain questions. There. Well, I need to make clear it is separate from this issue. And we're we're dealing we're dealing with what's in front of us. And we were changing the laws that we can change right now, which is a Texas law. The border wall will bring in federal imminent domain authority. And that is a different thing the American Farm Bureau, which is national organization that we are part of is running point on that. We do have some concerns about the taking a property to build the wall we are for border security. We're a conservative organization we are people down. There have had some real problems and issues in terms of border security. So we we support that. And that even includes building a wall where it's practical and necessary, but on these large swaths of private land, and in other places where a wall is not practical. We would like to see a lot done in the way of electronic surveillance that may not involve taking law. Large amounts of private land. We wonder what's going to happen to that land on the other side of the wall. It's not possible or feasible to build it right along the river ever foot of the way. So there what's going to happen to your ear Gatien pump? That's on the other side of the wall. What's going to happen to your pasture? Or are they going to take that and pay you for that too? And of course, a fair price would be part of that equation. We have some concerns, but it doesn't have anything to do with what we're trying to accomplish in the legislature right now to recant what you're trying to do in the legislature is trying to get the fair. Honest to good offer as you say and trying to get bullied by large compounded interests that could bulldoze you in the end find sometimes it rises to the level of bullying. Sometimes it's just not taking enough steps to under understand the process. I think they some of these companies could use nothing so much as they good course in customer relations and working with a landowner. We believe this is going to be good for the energy companies. It's going to be good for farmers and ranchers, other landowners and the state of Texas at the end of the day. Everyone's going to understand the issues and understand one another better. Anything is speaking of understanding each other better anything we've not laid out here that you'd like to speak to Jean hall. Now at this is a basic issue of fairness, if we really want to be a property rights state, looking at imminent, domain, fairness and eminent domain reform is an idea that's long overdue and an idea whose time has come our president. Russell binding lots likes to describe it as the property rights issue of our time. I think he's right. And I think it's time for the legislature to do something about it. Gene hall. If folks want to get hold of you or farm bureau, how can they do that? Well, I'm on Twitter at tech sag PR guy, I'm on Facebook. And and I certainly will accept the an Email. Our Texas farm bureau dot org website has all of our SAF Email addresses on it, send me an Email or pick up the phone and call me what about the house a couple of messages about that. When do you expect legislation that you guys are backing to come out of the house? Well, I expect that there will be hearings very soon. And then we'll we'll see what comes out of of the land resource committee. Okay, in that's where people need to watch is land resource committee. Yes. Chairman, Tom Craddock. No, right, or no, no thing or two about how to get his way round down there. He does he does. And our our pack has has supported him. And and. Put a bug in his next time. You see him that we need some eminent domain reform in Texas. There you go. Seen home pre sheets you making time, gene hall. Thank you for calling. All right. We'll talk gene whole there. Texas farm bureau. We're gonna Q things up got a couple of stories get into then our friend west Rappaport reports is we go along here on the program. Get into a quickie break the right back with you here on the other side of Texas. Victor. Thanks, not been she'll off your phone. Got me made you sail. The now Sanjay presumed thing they here about booking. This guy. Manny. Daniel the digital millennial guru here. That's a mouthful, you know, my friends are getting married. I'm at that age and those weddings, they should be memorable. But not for the groom's lack of style. That's why our friends at the black tux design rental suits tuxedos that you'll love wearing at your wedding. 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Jay, west Texas Leeson, thanks for tuning in tilling friend that you hang out on the other side of Texas as we get going here. Pro ching mid week from the studios were Waylon Jennings. Smoked all sorts of things where buddy Holly became famous get to buddy Holly here in just moment. Coming up in a few minutes. We've got gene hall from Texas farm bureau gonna talk about imminent, domain and issues pertaining to imminent domain in this Texas legislature legislative session that is ongoing and then coming up about five thirty our friend west Rappaport Rappaport reports everything going on in Austin that you need to know about you want to be part of the program. You can Texan are Texana eight oh six and four five fifty eight hundred ask questions as we do roll along here. Buddy. Holly. Speaking of ROY orbison and buddy Holly, hologram tour announce already have Daniel the digital millennial guru looking into tickets for this catch the rock and roll dream tour in North America and Europe this year again from pitchfork dot com. Roy orbison and buddy Holly will tour together as holograms this year. As billboard reports performances will see the reincarnated singer songwriters backed by a full live band in live backing vocalists the rock and roll dream tour will Mark the first time production company base, B A, S E all in caps base. Hologram. Will run concurrent dates for the same hologram? Meaning that fans in North America and Europe will theoretically be able to catch the orbison in Holly holograms on the same night living with different living musicians accompanying them fund the European dates below. Pitchfork is apparently European. We couldn't get anything better than that in show. Prep to figure out where they would be would you rather go to a buddy Holly hologram? Concert. Or to watch texts tech in the Sweet Sixteen. That's. Pretty significant question. I. I think I would given the history that place. Texas Tech in Anaheim or to a buddy Holly hologram. No, I don't know where that we pulled up the billboard link. I don't know where buddy Hollywood play in North America. But I see Bill fest in the United Kingdom Liverpool. Lots of union kingdom stops. In fact, everything I see there or United Kingdom stops Dublin. Ireland is will. You know, which gets me to thinking my my grea-. My grandfather did all this work on ancestry dot com. And then. Died in didn't have his password. We don't know what he spent all that time doing towards the end of his life funding, all his generational leads. Love my grandfather. John Thomas Leeson, the third, but. It's a pretty significant mistake to do all that work in. Then nobody has the password. I just got to thinking about that with Ireland. Mafia is doing all the work on the ancestry dot com and his promise me that he will leave his password behind so that we can trace that Leeson genealogy. But anyway, back to the matter at hand, I think I would take. Knowing that the same buddy hologram could be played over and over again. This is final decision. Buddy. Same buddy Holly hologram could be played over and over again. I'll take Texas Tech in Anaheim. That's what I'd rather. Go watch ticks stick in the final four. Then the buddy Holly to were four now. Plus, she know it'll be everywhere on the internet. The final decision bleeding red and black not buddy. Holly. I hope you'll forgive me. Hope you comes the same conclusion gonna get out get Jean home on the line talk about the imminent domain in Texas. We kick off this edition of the program. Stay right where you are. Emily Jones for ABC bay. A winning team means having the right players. 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We've covered plenty about the speed train runnin from Dallas to down to Houston. Your stance gene whole foreign bureaus stance on. On imminent domain. We believe and I'm glad everyone's talking about it. Because it's high time we talked about it, Texas loves to to talk the talk about being a property rights state, but we have failed to walk the walk. We have some some really serious issues here. In terms of fairness, we have private companies largely that's what these bills in the legislature are about that are not being fair with landowners that that come out with a certain sense of intimidation, and landowners are being taken advantage of. And we're doing our our best try to inject some fairness into the process. You know, sue landowners, whether they're members of farm bureau or not. Yes. We we like to think that we're advocating for all property owners in Texas, and one of the things we'd like for your listeners to know is that just because you live in an urban area doesn't necessarily mean you're not going to be affected by eminent domain. I have heard people read back to me that this is just a normal business transaction. Well, it's not if one party can't walk away from the table, then it's not a normal business transaction, we would like to see some things NA law that have to deal with low ball offers. And and we know what the other side says. But we believe there are a lot of them and they're consistent. Nobody's keeping a a record of such things. But we we do here of a lot of cases, we want some transparency in the process if you're a government entity taking private property, then you have to hold a public hearing. If you're a private company doing that. There's no such thing. We don't believe the process would be hurt by more transparency. Gene home. Have you all been involved in the high speed rail between Dallas and Houston? I guess we have been then our issue with the high speed rail is is not over imminent domain and to be fair. I don't think they've used that yet one one court denied them the right to use it. And I'm sure we'll hear more about that we oppose the existence of the high speed rail, and it has to do with our farmer, and rancher members that are along the route we believe it would be highly disruptive. That's what they tell us there access issues. It's it's very similar. It reminds me a lot of the trans Texas Carter. I know you remember that sure that there were stories about people not being able to access their property. Even though they may physically be only a few yards away, but have to travel miles to get to it. We believe that it reflects that. And there's a lot of similar issues with a high speed rail. Speaking more broadly in generally in the legislature this time around into. Thousand nineteen what are you looking at with eminent domain in? What are you trying to procure for the future and future Texans? Dwayne barn at introduced a Bill in the house. It's still in committee. A Bill did come out of the committee that one introduced by Senator lowest co-course out of brenham, and that Bill we support it has many of the things that we originally asked for as a way to deal with low ball offers as a way to have public hearings in a transparent process things like damages to the remainder of your property. You know, a pipeline running through does it just affect that narrow swath of land. It it affects the entire property is the what you can build and the value of it when you might sell it, and so on and and what we have found is a landowner who might be all alone in this process. If he doesn't ask for simple things like when you fill the thing back in put the topsoil on top. If he doesn't ask for those kinds of things chances. Are he won't get them? Now, there are some good actors out there. I don't mean to. Paint with that broad brush. But clearly there are enough bad actors that we're getting the complaints in. And we're seeing the issues. Well, so tell me this in gene for folks who have never dealt with this. What is a low ball offer? You you've mentioned that a couple of times. What's a low ball offer? Look like, you said one party is able to leave the table one's not. Sure. Go ahead. Right. Yeah. That's imminent domain. You don't have any choice once a thority with that taking power wants your land. They will get it. There's we don't have any any bottom line issues with him in that domain. We may not like it. But it's been part of our legal system for longer than we've been country. And so there are public goods, and and certainly the oil and gas industry that is opposing on this. We we consider them our friends, Texas needs this infrastructure to move power and energy from one place to the next we believe they can afford to be fair. We don't believe it's gonna cost them in time and treasure to to have to comply with some extra rules when they regards taking property. The what tends to happen is the land man or someone will come out and get out of a truck with the logo of a well known in. Energy company on the door. And they will present this paper says we're taking your land. You don't have any choice. We're taking it because we can sign here and far too. Many of these things are signed on the hood of the pickup, we would advise anyone in this process to obtain legal representation as many people consider that just the first step to figure out where you're going. And when these companies are challenged when the taking entities are challenged a lot of times are people win in court. But they're still out all of the expenses of it. I've had people on the other side tell me, well that proves the process it's working. Yes. If you don't consider the six figure legal bills, you know, no doubt. There would be six figure so to comply with extra rules. Your sounds to me, gene. Like, what your point of view is what farm bureau's point of view is is on the imminent domain question. There can be accommodations made that need to be made in order to protect the landowner. That are not being made. Now is that what co- Bill does? Yes, it does. And they the low ball offers. We would just like a little bit more structure in the law to to mandate or require an honest to good offer. Currently, there's no appraisal required initially one happens later, but a lot of times, doc. Kamenz already signed before any of that happens and the offer it is accepted, and and many times people don't know. And there isn't kind of a factor of intimidation going on there. And you know, you're up against an adversary with a really deep pockets that's willing to take you to court to get what they want, but these projects are multi year planning projects. And I and I have heard some folks tell me, well, this is going to bring the entire pipeline industry or energy industry to a grinding halt. Well, we believe that that's nonsense that you couldn't work a public hearing into this multi year process just kind of defies the imagination. I don't know. How anyone could be expected to believe that soon gene a couple of ticks already in going to ask you about this because I think it's pertinent to the conversation. What about the border and the border wall? Then. What what do you? We had on the imminent domain questions. There. Well, I need to make clear it is separate from this issue. And and we're we're dealing we're dealing with Watson front of us. And we were changing the laws that we can change right now, which is a Texas law, the border wall will bring in federal imminent domain authority. And that is a different thing the American Farm Bureau, which is national organization that we are part of is running point on that. We do have some concerns about the taking a property to build the wall we are for border security. We're a conservative organization we are people down. There have had some real problems and issues in terms of border security. So we we support that. And that even includes building a wall where it's practical and necessary, but on these large swaths of private land, and in other places where wall, it's not practical. We would like to see a lot done in the way of electronic surveillance. It's that may not involve taking large amounts of private land. We wonder what's going to happen to that land on the other side of the wall. It's not possible or feasible to build it right along the river ever foot of the way. So there what's going to happen to your ear Gatien pump? That's on the other side of the wall. What's going to happen to your pastor? Or are they going to take that and pay you for that too? And of course, a fair price would be part of that equation. We have some concerns, but it doesn't have anything to do with what we're trying to accomplish in the legislature right now soon the recap what you're trying to do in the legislature is trying to get a fair honest to good offer as you say and trying to get bullied by large compounded interests that could bulldoze you in the end find sometimes it rises to the level of bullying. Sometimes it's just not taking enough steps to under understand the process. I. I think they some of these companies could use nothing so much as good course in customer relations and working with the landowner. We believe this is going to be good for the energy companies. It's going to be good for farmers and ranchers, other landowners and the state of Texas at the end of the day. Everyone's going to understand the issues and understand one another better. Anything is speaking of understanding each other better anything we've not laid out here that you'd like to speak to Jean hall. Now, this is a basic issue of fairness, if we really want to be a property rights state, looking at eminent, domain, fairness and eminent domain reform is an idea that's long overdue and an idea whose time has come our president. Russell binding lots likes to describe it as the property rights issue of our time. I think he's right. And I think it's time for the legislature to do something about it. Gene hall. If folks want to get hold of you or farm bureau, how can they do that? Well, I'm on Twitter at tech sag PR guy, I'm on Facebook. And and I certainly will accept the an Email. Our Texas farm bureau dot org website has all of our SAF Email addresses on it, send me an Email or pick up the phone and call me what about the house is a couple of messages about that. When do you expect legislation that you guys are backing to come out of the house? Well, I expect that there will be hearings very soon. And then we'll we'll see what comes out of the land resource committee. Okay, in that's where people need to watch is land resource committee. Yes. Chairman, Tom Craddock, nor right Garneau, no thing or two about how to get his way round down there. He does he does. And our our pack has has supported him. And and. And put a bug in his ear next time. You see him that we need some eminent domain reform in Texas. There you go. He is seen home pre sheets you making time, gene hall. Thank you for calling. All right. We'll talk gene whole there. Texas farm bureau. We're gonna Q things up got a couple of stories get into and then our friend west Rappaport reports is we go along here on the program get into a quickie break be right back with you here on the other side of Texas. Sheila off your. Me made you sail. On the and for something Steve here about. When your best friends with the founder of the Lubbock county, militia you get your own radio show. It's the other side of Texas with j Leeson. Bang. Just in Sansone stature germs can't be. About. Drowns? On drums. Welcome back in any real estate needs. You have on your real estate agent j west Texas Leeson, whether it be commercial industrial residential, you got going. You need help with your place, and what your place may look like I'll give you the same. Ethic and resolve that I present you on this program. And we'll go after your place and get that done. You can contact me eight oh, six five four three one three one seven that's eight. Oh, six five four three one three one seven. Let's go get what works for you. Get it done for west Rappaport joins us here in a couple of minutes. The Lubbock county emergency communication district on Tuesday provided a brief explanation of a nine one one system failure in the day that LC. I don't not here. I am. Reading from everything Lubbock and. Lubbock county. Oh, emergency communication district. So the L C E C Lubbock county emergency communications said the nine one one outage started at nine fifty AM in lasted for about an hour and fifteen minutes LC said the failure was under investigation. But the initial thought is a network component malfunctioned. So that's back online in ready to go something that I've not talked about. But I'd like to talk about now. You know, there's those sock about Benoa Rourke in placating to Hispanic minority slash majorities in Texas with the name Beddoe, and we kinda gloss over Ted Cruz Rafael Theodore cruise about Ted Cruz in again, this is late but was fined thirty five thousand dollars for not properly disclosing campaign loans from Goldman Sachs CitiBank, let's get into common man issues. Win was the last time you got in trouble for not disclosing campaign loans from Goldman Sachs and CitiBank in hell grassroots or you really if you aren't properly disclosing one point one million dollars in loans from banks this is from. Uh-huh. The Texas Tribune. Crews did not properly disclose his loan is campaign from both. Goldman Sachs group were as wife, Heidi Cruz was employed at the time and CitiGroup. The information came to light in two thousand sixteen during his spilled bid for the Republican presidential nomination crews called it and quote inadvertent filing error cannot just just in small it all this stuff that's going on right now. God's if this happened the U R, I if if you or I did not file this. It would be much more severe than inadvertent filing error and a lot more severe than thirty five thousand dollars. And this is where I just get off on Democrats are no longer common. They're they're into partisan personality, politics and the Republicans pretend to. Become a man the president saying today. The Republican party will soon be known as the party of health care. And I think both of those laughable on both sides. The Democrats aren't pretty common, man. The Republicans certainly are not either. Story goes on in two thousand seventeen the Federal Election Commission announce it would audit crews after the campaign legal centered submitted a complaint with the improper disclosure, we'd be going it'd be going the big house or or worse if we were in the same situation on the phone with us now, take a deep breath. I was about to get worked up there. With rappaport. I was about to get worked up on. What would happen the common man, if we fall if we failed to disclose loans from Goldman Sachs, which we all have access to by the way. I don't know if you're aware Goldman Sachs CitiBank willing to give any of us money. But you've come in just in Tom. I'm sideswiping you with that story. How are things going? You got any story we want here. Just another beautiful day, and your sexist capital and working on stories on behalf of the people. There you go. West rappaport. You can check them out everywhere. Now, his cute little mug is everywhere. We're you find Texas politics news what you've been working on west. What can we can we what can we Jabber about here? Today. Actually, I went to a a press conference. Excuse me on a police chief from across the state and sheriff's from across the state all talking about medical marijuana and and medicinal marijuana use the the idea here is that you know there. There's the expansion of medicinal marijuana decriminalization of medicinal marijuana or of pot in general, and there's legislation that that making its way through the system and and games. They have poured on both sides of the aisle to to get this done. And and bottom line is the law enforcement community says, you know, no way, and they they're saying that the public safety threat they're saying that there are. Disadvantages to the taxpayer. And and this is well, they're saying that you know, that that the tacking Senate seemed night off the top of the cities and counties these municipalities, but then the officers then are now dealing with. There's there's a lot less clarity for an office. How do you define marijuana intoxicating? How do you define these certain levels of cannabis with with somebody? And and they're basically saying that it's now gonna you're using police resources to to do it kind of had the opposite effect of what of what the intention when I kind of the overall intention is to to what as you as you take steps to legalize or decriminalize. It kind of opens up the market a little bit and crew and maybe crime go down. Maybe, you know, the the the money flow get moved, and and is the less secretive process, really the law enforcement thing it's going to be the other way round going to black market thing. You're gonna see and like they were pointing to Colorado, and these other states that have tried this in 'em. So they were really trying to harp on these other of these other cities. It was one of the press conferences that that started out simple. And then it was like an hour long press conference of the different chiefs and sheriffs and a former DA agent who all came up, and and we're really harping on it. And and this goes just right a day after a Bill that would lower the the criminal penalty to a civil penalty for low level possession. Just have a hurdle in the house, though is the problem that interesting. It sounds like their problem is that the state. Level actors are leaving it to local municipalities and counties to figure out what's intoxication. What's not is? That the crux of the issue of it is even just a court system level. I mean, you know, you're one of the arguments here is that from from supporters that, you know, you're tying up the court and the jail system. And you know, it's a criminal Justice piece. It's at your digital piece. It's a medical p, you know, they're saying you're you're tying up the court system with low level offenses. And it's you know, just that it's the possession. It's a small amount. And of course, everybody's geiko K. You gotta define small versus large and things like that. But there is a number that they've pegged on it. But you know, it it. That kind of the I think the overall of it is is the did you disappear? The criminal Justice piece of know, the medical Pete, then the law enforcement of saying, wait a minute. What about public safety? If you've got somebody who's legally allowed mocha thurton amount. You know, and maybe they're in talk to maybe there body can handle alcohol. You know there. There's a certain amount that your body can handle before there's an intoxication. Right. And and if if I've legal you got somebody who smoked pot get behind the wheel of a car, and and you know, you can you can imagine what could happen there. You know? Maybe maybe Roe K one time. Maybe you're not okay one time. And so it that's the argument from the law enforcement folks is creates a public safety risk decrease the health risk here, as you know, we don't want to overturn the compassionate youth law. That is already in place that focusing on additional marijuana. They want to doc the legislation from going further expand and to decriminalize and take steps to do that take ups to legalize me. They say look at Colorado. It's it's not. So we shouldn't do that here. You know, everything different their argument. Let me ask a question in give you some background into y masking this question. The question is this was Oklahoma. Brought up today in the context is this is I was driving too much are red raiders in Tulsa, all along broken arrow expressway, billboards everywhere, go in have a prescription written from doctor for seventy five dollars for medical marijuana. And then you've got your pick of what you can which you can. Can partake in or hut per take in on the cannabis level was Oklahoma ever brought up today because that seems like they're flying by the see their pants up there. Mention of Oklahoma. They mentioned a Colorado course, they mentioned California as an example of of the state that exploring certain option, they mentioned Oregon as another state that had talked about this at the legislative level. The no mention of Oklahoma that I recalled okay, that's just my own query west Rappaport with us at west rap or a p on Twitter when else you've been covering what else can we get into here? Wes-? Well, this is a story that that will air in our in Tyler, of course, as you know, I report for for twelve stations in Texas, including came back in kale K in the Lubbock area. But there's a there was a sort of an ongoing Pete ongoing coverage of. These dogs who died in an accident involving power line. They were power line with down in any way there. The three boys lost their lives and their parents worked with lawmakers to create legislation that would create essentially more oversight for power line. Ladies power lines right now with you know, I don't know the answer to that. And that's a good question. I would imagine that there is, you know, there's always somebody overseas something, but I don't know who oversees the power lines. But nevertheless, we I was talking with some of the lawmakers involved in the legislature today and one of the mothers of the the the kid and it'll air in our Tyler. For our friends in Tyler and to either tonight. I think airs tomorrow they're put putting it together out there in east, Texas, but it'll be on Texas matters dot com within the next twenty four to forty eight. So really really compelling discussion with with the lawmakers involved represent the chairman, Chris Patty, Representative shaking, and then the mother of the voice down who died in this back in and how I don't wanna get graphic. But I want to ask how exactly a failed power line down power line contributed to the death or causative of a boy scout or voice scouts. I'd have to go back in. I I wanted to make sure that I get it. Correct. But I believe if my memory Thursday, right? It was like an electric Houston type of situation. Sure. And yet difficult than they let but I believe it was electrocuting soon. Yeah. They're gonna debate budget this week, and we got school finance week. So what do you begin to do? Do you begin to drink some protein shakes now and get yourself ready? What do you do this? Yeah. We're getting ready for the marathons, you know, it's going to be I was talking with with a couple of rest today. I said what tomorrow we're going to be interesting one on? And they said, yeah, you know, it is gonna be a they're I mean, they're prepared to to work on this budget until you know, four clock in the morning kind of thing. They're going to go through all these amendments until they're done three hundred seven amendment. That's far to be talked about tomorrow in the house. That's not to say that all of them will come up some of them will you know, may or may not get tabled some of them. We'll be pulled settle a, but it's going to be it's going to be alive. It is going to be a long day. And you're gonna be there on the rail. We're going to be there outside the realm. And so they're talking everything from from health care. I mean, this is of course, the overarching budget, and so then all of these amendments are tackling specific tweets that they wanna make too, you know, at certain money to this caused or. Priority in pulses money away, or you know, them a bit since language and saw big changes, you know, public schools in private schools and bending their health care concerns for mental Justice reform veteran benefits, and and the strong VA, and and you know, border security. There's all of these different, you know, election security in election. Voter registrar changes. But I mean, all kinds of stuff voting system. There's like you name it. It's in the budget. Right. So it's gotta go through this process that it's going to be a can be a long day. But we're looking forward to it. And folks have to they're gearing up for a long day. But linearly are we talking like noon through fear o'clock the next morning yet? Basically, it's like ten AM think you're going to meet at ten probably them regular business in the morning, and then they'll jump into it and. And get going the only constitutional duty that they have is the pass a budget. And I hear they go tomorrow. They're going to try. What's going to be interesting in this part of the world? West is does the bet school walk away from the house with some seventeen million dollars? The Texas Tech proposed that school in. How does the Senate follow up on that win will the Senate take their budget? Good question. I don't have the info on that. I don't know if that out let me who does was who. We we all get the most of us get to find out to get. But soon I mean, as you mentioned, it is it is the one responsibility they have constitutionally, so they'll they'll get around to it. If they if they if not soon than. Then soon after that. Intrigue as we follow the state capital. Anything else we need to know about this week west rappoport. You know there without going to presidential. You know, there's some there's twenty twenty twenties still on everybody vines here in Texas. There's rallies and some we may seem announcement or two or for the some of the statewide seats for twenty twenty. So I don't I don't I would just keep by out for for some twenty twenty news here in Texas this week this week. We make it. Well, and then the federal work valley on Saturday. There's you know, let's we forget that while all this stuff going on here in the great state of Texas. There's also, you know, forty nine other states that have their Wissam going ask you this is we let you go alon- is being made that they're more people showing up for Camilla Harris rallies in Texas them. Benno Rourke rallies is Camila a name that we need to get to know here, regardless of your partisan stripes. I think so I mean, I think that that if he's drawing crowds decided that she is then then I would certainly they that she somebody that that Texans need to know about obviously, they're with with so many people in the rate is it's hard to kind of you know, everybody has something that somebody like, right? And and but trying to figure out kind of who what the overarching qualities are that that makes that person the best candidate for for the democratic ticket. And so, you know, whether whether she ends up as a as a contender at the final as a out, they possibly vice presidential nominee. If she doesn't win the ticket. You know, there's there's a lot her political career is not over if he doesn't, you know question nomination. So there's are. Definitely keep my on Coppola here, and she can't continues to campaign, and it's gonna be a busy week for. There's a believe I saw a an announcement that there's gonna be a handful of the president's candidates who are going to be in Houston later this week. I haven't had a chance to read through on who who exactly is going to be there. But you know, there will be at least a handful of both. 'cause they they ready nice. That Texas is a player in the conversation day. And you know, I think everybody used to talk about, you know, not really having to worry about Texas when it came to voting time. And now Texas day play Texas is a state that both parties are both the major party. They're looking at their watching there. They wanted what people in Texas care about. They wanna know what people in Texas had to say and they want to act on. So I think as the Texas much more involved than at least in in the last couple of elections. Ankles national level west Rappaport, ramp report reports there on Instagram, right? Ramp afoot reports and at west RAB there on Twitter Braschi to make Tom always appreciate you checking in with with everything you're covering their the capital. Tuck it there. All right money. Take a quick break. Get back in with some things. I'm thinking about is we head into the playoffs tonight. Grace, Linda Leeson in her huskies. Fifth grade. Let's get it on feedback. Couple of minutes. Welcome back to the other side with j Leeson. So. Then this. Hey, welcome back into the program closing thoughts. Here I'm still caught up on this cruise campaign cruise in this is why have such a distrust whenever it comes to. And I won't just say Republicans. I'll say Rockefeller, Ian Republicans. Who have the communist view in? Look I've been playing in. This is one A-List Texaco can. Politically, the left that Democrats have certainly left aside economics to go after all sorts of identity politics. You see that every day. I don't appreciate it. You don't appreciate it. Your grandmother. My grandmother would not appreciate it. But at the same time, you've got Republicans trying to make common claims in who make say more common claim than Ted Cruz. I ask you who does. And you won't be able to answer that question for me cruise plays to work ethic. He plays to social conservative views that are very alive and well cap rock in the panhandle down into the basin. A region the basin the. The basin the cap rock the panhandle which reelected crews. I've said before that the junction between and to extrapolate on cruise and go into Greg Abbott. Greg Abbott received all of his shortcoming in boats in L Paso from Lubbock to Amarillo long twenty seven corridor. And my gripe is always been this in continues to be. You cannot in when I'm reaction to what this program's reaction to is. You cannot tempt people social concerns exploit their economic interests in the here. Ted Cruz talk. He knows about what middle class families come up against. And that's why I'm dwelling on a blown from Goldman Sachs. In CitiBank, which none of us would get and very few of our wives. I would say like one of our wives within listening range of this live or on the podcasts. This worked for Goldman Sachs in two thousand seventeen the Federal Election Commission announce it would audit crews after the campaign legal center submitted a complaint about the improper disclosure quote. This is old news simply the conclusion of the same inadvertent reporting error that was widely reported during the presidential campaign. Cruise spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said in a written statement at that time, the FTC's decision defined cruises two thousand twelve campaign comes three years after the fall the complaint was filed that he sees vote to audit crews in two thousand seventeen was unanimous something unusual for the FCC board that at the time included five directors due to retirements and lack of appointments since that time the board is now at Ford rectors the bare minimum. Needed for a quorum? Today. Today's announcement is an acknowledgement that the Cruz campaign deprived voters of critical information. Not me. I mean, I've known this about cruise. Why didn't vote for crews in the presidential primary? Why voted for Trump over crews in? I think it's a lot of people went in. And we'll never admit publicly. They voted for Benoa Rourke over cruise. In the home stretch. This is a senior director of campaign legal center in the home stretch, the high profile election voters were misled about cruises, personal and came pain finances. This is particularly harmful given that financial issues were at the issue. In the campaign and could have factored into voters decision making at the ballot. You know, womb on it. And we close out the program. Pointed this out before but I'm going to go back to it. And probably put something on about social media later. There are a lot of good Republicans in Lubbock county. I want to start with that. Disclaimer. The problem is is that so many of them are not involved in the local party anymore because the local party has just gone out. I mean, it's wingnut crazy. If you follow the Lubbock Democratic Party. There are exceptions. And I would say within a leadership there are exceptions. But by and large a bunch of people who are left in the vacuum of cable news in don't have real jobs and just go to town on like, oh, you cannot say anything good about George Mahan. I a congressman who vowed out nineteen Seventy-nine because he's a Jim crow democrat like all this identity politics being extrapolated, it's cultural imperialism and put upon Democrats of generation ago. But I'll tell you this the Lubbock county Republican party is much mess. As is the democratic county party me, it is a absolute disaster. Look, no further than the official Facebook of the Lubbock county Republican party. And there was this. This cartoon that was put up doing the spot memory. It's a lot of people in different colored jackets. A lot of cartoon figures that kind of look the same that go through banner in it's called public schools. And they all come out looking the exact same. It's the Lubbock county. Republican party's way is saying. That everybody goes through public schools is homogeneous, but it's my way of saying this how far from fricken reality or you guys removed that you're gonna come down on spring lake earth is St. you're gonna come down on idolize. Let's stick within Lubbock county. Shallow water is the even down in the Lynn new home that you're gonna come down within all the is Steve's in Lubbock and say that public education is some sort of racquet some sort of propaganda machine. And that's one for you. That's why you've completely. That's why there are fifty to seventy five people in our hope that upper breasts within the Lubbock county Republican party because this program is certainly shifted a lot of things. In how we work politically locally. But I hope that you guys see that sort of messaging and whatever goof in L bet you fifty dollars right now the person who runs the Lubbock county Republican Facebook page works for a state entity. I will promise you that right now. That's not to say on the who they are which I do know who they are. So it is to say who I know who they are. But they work for a state entity. Okay. They work for the the state that you fear so much that runs the economy in Lubbock county, agriculture medical and education public in higher. Ed. In what a bunch of buffoons. You guys are that you would let these people get away with the sort of stuff. And again, I am I am just a guy who body into a lot of this conservative talk when arrives younger and didn't understand my place. Now, I've come to a conservatism that I think abides with my place. I think of bides with a lot of my neighbors. But whenever your neighbors enemy, and you sneer at them, and you've got some worthless. Saka rocks. That's running your Facebook page, and you're just signing off on it Lubbock county Republican party. That's why fifty seventy five people within a guess, you could say three hundred thousand population metropolis, while only the red the red is what they always call Lubbock county the of the red voters, why do only fifty or seventy five people show up in his because you lost. He's just completely lost touch. And that's what they're I would venture to bet that there are more people that vote up to. Show to the democratic annual meetings than the Republican meetings. That's my complaint, and to me, it's Ted Cruz, and Goldman Sachs and CitiBank and you guys in reality dumb reacting to I'll just think it's Lubbock county. I think go to Potter County. I think you've got east Texas. Good south, Texas on any other side of Texas and find the same. That's just me bitten. I'm going to get home guide to get home. Great family above average dinner waiting for me there at the Ponderosa guy. 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I just printed off. A free to slamming. You got by the frame. But man now, we'll never mind I'm not going the purse Friday art drill. So we'll get into that man, especially after the show. So last night, I had a political opinion e. Wow. And I'm gonna do what I do. And it's ray-ban here. Even if it fluster some folks. Yesterday. I let this program with one question because we get with the newsmakers we do the interviews throughout the course a week. And then I get to go home drive home. I don't have on the radio. I just think about what I've heard. Is can like if you think about the podcast after you get done or you're listening on live air think about what you've heard, and I just think I don't come to the show with an agenda. I wanna know things I'm curious right in that's the power of a microphone is. I'm curious about this. Let's get with these people. Let's see what they have to say. An apparently a lot of people share your same curiosity out. So I don't want to I want to have people on the program. I would want to run a program that I listen to. That's kinda Ma mantra if if I wouldn't listen to it than I ain't doing it. Okay. Yeah. And we got to be original smart and funny. That's always my roles, original, smart and funny. So we get people who rave on like us on the program and get to hear about it. But I let the program yesterday. Of course, we're we were talking about house Bill two and Senate Bill to and this. By ya between the house and the Senate on how we're going to take the rates. Well, what we're gonna do is we're going to lower the rollback rate to two point five percent from the current eight percent for all taxing units. Mostly cities and counties with more than fifteen million dollars in combined property and sales tax revenue, which would exempt a lot of rural counties and rural communities. But I just begin to think about that in the more. I thought about it there. It's a two tiered problem that you hear the loudest and most vocal that I hear is that. It's. It's public education stupid. The state is not putting in the money that it ought to for public education in. So we're having to pay up from a mostly residential lots commercial. But from a residential property standpoint. We're paying the difference of what the state is not kicking in any more people want to see their taxes decrease and the best way to see them decrease is for the state to kitty and put more money in the kitty in order to alleviate property tax. But if that's the main problem a can gentle problem that we hear about is that we need to put a cat back down. Now back during the Carter will before the Carter administration. I think cats were like at four percent, and then inflation and all that stuff just roared up and then over the past thirty forty years. We've inked our way back up to eight percent. And that's the cap you can't go over eight percent in fiscal year. And if you do you've got to have rollback rate election, people go to the polls in vote on whether or not ready want those taxes to increase so what a lot of most by and large. They don't approach eight percent unless it's a rural county that's had a bad commodity year in they have to jump up to fix it. We've had Lee Norman Garza county with other people on the program to discuss that. But now it's at eight percent and in order to in. This is the problem. That's in marchmont words. It's going to be a problem. Two years. It's being sold as your property taxes are going to go down. They're not gonna go down. They may be limited. But they won't go down in even if they are limited. Here's the problem. What are you gonna do for? Well, we need certain MO money. For roads, we need certain amount of money for for personnel. We need certain amount of money. Four health care. Will you can't bond personnel? You can't bomb healthcare. So what do you do with your budget? You take care of the health care. You take care of you're going to take care of the personnel and hiring personnel. And what are you gonna do in bonds? You're going to go for that infrastructure for the roads, you're gonna go for all that other stuff. So to me on its face. This seems to be because who's gonna vote against roads Lubbock counties about the have a bond election roads. Do you think that it's going to get voted down? I don't think it's going to get voted down because they're gonna put roads in Alberta. Lou rare gonna put them going to shallow water. They're gonna put maybe throw little Dom up to Abernathy. And then they're gonna Bill Woodrow road in front of the third fastest growing school district in Texas Cooper. And then the new loop. Well, that won't be on the bond. Okay. I don't know. That's totally different incidents. Okay. It's not your job to know. I just thought was thrown in. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to. But so far is what the county's responsible for. They're about to have this big bond election and people are going to vote for it because they have to vote for it. So at the end of the day, I think all we're doing is saying, okay, we'll go with the lower cabinet. It won't end. It two point five. Five because there's a guy what's his name the guy in Amarillo. Oh, kill Seliger. That's who is not gonna be down with two point five. And so right, then the house has already smirking saying it's going to be six percent. It's going to be between between eight and six that's going to be what the negoti with the negotiation goes to at the end of the day. At least that's my initial rate unless game Patrick gets a few Democrats go in with them in the Senate which. Which they've been known to do. Yep. He's been known to be able to flip Democrats in the Senate and. My initial read on all of this in a put this up last night on Twitter need foamy along at j Leeson on Twitter. But. On twitter. I said last night that this my big tech. Sledge question of the day is school finance is the chief cause of rising property taxes. And it is why wasn't a joint school finance fix rolled out before HP to an SP two. That's the question, and what begins just begins era just want people to hear me out. I'm just asking you on question here. The way the story's been billed as that Dennis Bonnin came in and pick pocketed at least. It's the way I've heard folks with text Tribune tell story the he came in and pick pocketed everybody else and became speaker of the house came out of nowhere. Here's my operating theory right now. Bonham was always in play. Because bonding wanted these tax caps last legislature? The governor wants to look as though he's done something about property taxes. It's now the highest ranking, well, it's got the most voter approval behind it. I think it's an inside job. And I'm going to say it here and people are gonna be upset about it later. I think that Bonnin. I think that in. I don't want to say do not hear me say Dennis bond is the most calculated shrewdest smartest man in texts politics right now. But I think that bond was always in play. And it was a play that was going to come out the last second because the rule is I talked with a lot of people down the legislature as speaker process rolled out. Their response to me was you don't want to be the first guy out of the gate. He don't want to be the second or the third you won't be a horse that comes out later. And I think that von and stayed in the stable and. I think that I don't know who orchestrated this. But they are the genius in Texas right now, there's some Karl rove junior out there that orchestrated this. And I think that Bonham was now I think that bond was gonna be the speaker under the governor's guidance in a. A widely calculated effort. Now. That's my first theory. The second theory is that bond in was on board with tax caps. Less legislature got shot down in ways and means came back out lint back out. I think it like six percent down from eight percent cap and the people who win against him pay the price for it once bond became speaker. They got sideline this session. And. It's either that it was an inside job or bond and saw the opportunity in people in the middle. Who didn't have a lot of power under Strauss. Saw the opportunity to get behind Bonnin and present a majority. That's my operating theory right now. I've not heard anybody else say it, I'm giving you original thought. But that's how I see how things have unfolded in. That's that comes to bear on when I tweeted last night why you saw house Bill to come out before school finance fix because the school finance fix. Now. Can you even do school finance fix? If you're at two percent two point five, and you don't know how you're going to come up with the monies that the schools are shorted in. What's a Senate doing right now? Daniel the digital millennial. Guru is the Senate on board for porn a bunch of money in the school districts into government entities or do they want to give money to teachers? They got some three billion dollars to go straight to teachers thousand dollar a year, raise, you know, they want the money to go directly to teachers not to make the school district solvent and make property. Taxes go down. But you know, how much of an impact is five thousand dollars a year when you're making twenty five thousand dollars a year. Well, you know, that's significant already like dismiss it. But if the core issue if at the center of the core the issue is. Like the teacher's salary. That's penultimate that's that secondary. Right. It's close. But it's not the heart of the matter. The heart of the matter right now is what do you do to put money into school districts? So that your property taxes? Go down the Senate is not on board. With making your property taxes? Go down from the school district level. They don't want to go back twenty years in take your fifty five cents of every dollar and turn that back into more like thirty eight cents every dollar that you put into your property taxes. They are not on board with that. They want to continue. The course that were on, and it's not gonna fix anything and ultimate thing. At the end of the day is nobody's property taxes are going down. Nobody's property taxes are going down. They may be mitigated under HP too. But it's not going down. And then you look at other issues in Lubbock county, which is fertile ground for crazy succumb from outside to within in lots of people with like, so many of the core activists of the Lubbock county Republican party. I don't even know what they do for a living because they don't know about real economy. They don't know how the place works. They don't what makes it turn. And what makes the Lubbock economy work in said it, and I'll say it again medical in healthcare in the downtown. What's number one, vocation Lubbock? It's nursing right. It's agriculture in federal programs for agriculture, and it's higher Ed in public it. And then everybody who gets contracts from there. That's. My love has such a thriving. Thriving small business industry that we do. And that's not to say that nobody works hard. They work hard for this contracts. I'm not saying that there's anything shady going on there. I think that hard working people earned the contracts that they get but people at the core. And I challenge anybody from not even challenge I invite some of the core activists in Lubbock county Republican party to come on air in challenge me on that point because I will put your teeth on the curb instead on the back of your head while because figuratively, right? I think I just you know, American history acts. Yeah. You know, I'm glad that you've seen that. Yeah. You'll digital ru to forget. But that's how a lot of rural. Not just Lubbock, but rural economy works now is around those industries that are commercial enterprises that happened to be government. I think back to Lubbock county did a. The federal government came in and said that Lubbock county needed to build a new detention center, right and said it was a federal judgment that said you will build a new detention center. So. The county put out put it out to vote, of course, it passed overwhelmingly. But if you're gonna build in what was a seven eleven and you got to build a new WalMart super WalMart of detention centers. Guess what she have to do. Then when you gotta do find contractors. Right. You gotta find personnel. Node our new people and new people have benefits that make it a job worth doing. So you don't have low Las off the street. Just coming in saying. Yeah, I can I can handle this unit. Well, what does that cost is my point right costs? So what do you do tax Bill up to eight percent right now? Do you put that out for another vote? Yes. And there will be people people with whom I disagree, but people who will say, well, of course, tax payers would see the need for. For that. Right. But what about went outside interests come in and say, you don't need that you can manage Bob what she have. Well, then it becomes a little bit more complicated because you had to hire at least a third a third more than what you had to manage that new detention center in but that was from a federal mandate. Right. Right. And so there are the commodity arguments. They're made on the rural county basis that you know, you can have wheat here, and then they could drop down. And then the next year for you to go. Eight percent more you were the year before in anywhere near where you were three years before. But whenever you get mandates coming down. What if people say, no, what if Lubbock county were to say, no, I think plausible Lubbock county could say, no, we're not gonna go beyond the two point five percent. Right. So what happens in Kelly road doesn't get the new vehicles that he needs at the sheriff's the county sheriff's level. He doesn't get. The patrol cars. Any needs to trace him track down? Narko terrorists on county roads going inex-. Do you want? Do you want your county sheriff deputies driving around in a tenure via continue old fifteen year old vehicle going one hundred and ten miles an hour. A doubt it, I doubt. That's what you want. That's not really ensuring the public interest. Now, maybe they should hire me to make the pitch whenever they need to go beyond the two point five. But that they're going to put the handcuffs on local entities like that is not local control in. This is what I want to close the segment with here. We go. You already know where I'm going. I feel it Pete Laney boom. Pete Laney will smirk at you and say twenty five years ago, those Republicans came up to Capra, and they said they were gonna do something about local control and term limits, and then he'll be silent for moment. And then he'll say, I ain't seen them. Do nothing about either one of those things that you, and that's the problem, and I speak from an independent view on this on this radio station, but in Lubbock in places like Lubbock, this may stick, but in other places places that tinged purple last election cycle this stuff does not stick. And I'll just quote, my good friend. I'll you go from Pete Laney, the Brandon Darby it's because of rural regions that Republicans still stand, right? And if we continue this kind of legislation and continue this handcuffing local officials. From making what's best for their place. Policy, then Republicans will continue to lose in until the real problems address in that school finance. Republicans will lose in will believe me the house could turn in twenty twenty turned democratic. Well, you know, it's up to millennials, you know. We're we're woke as they say, you're they cly but four how old are you me? I'm turning thirty this year. So it's starting to matter to me. And definitely I'm I'm I guess I'm in the more of the middle as far as like millennials go, but you know, like researching to build families for starting to, you know, pay taxes for the first time, I think, you know, this will be my third year to pay taxes. So it's starting to matter to me, a make, you know, like what's happening with the money that I'm getting you know, what kind of education are my children going to get you know, were fairly left leaning, not me, particularly. So where do you want it to go just watching and you gotta make arguments that mattered people. Yes. It's the people who vote, hey again to get into a quick break. Got kind of. Carried away their get him with some news. She got some news for us. We need a little bit of news. I have like a, you know, soft segment where we're going to talk about mentorship in this experience right now. Okay. Okay. You know, a plug some, you know, first Friday art trail, you know, that source Aaron Lubbock. Yeah. That's where we're headed after the show stick right with us here on the other side of the Good Friday casual Friday here on the program be right back with you quick break. Better weather. With. He do the sound hailstones. We were driving the end Daniel. And there is we've got the scooter epidemic in Lubbock right now. People love them hate them. But we're out at sixty six in MLK in Lubbock, which is by Lubbock standards in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Or no sidewalks? There's a field just to our north in up in the corner of the field is lime scooter his a scooter. Yeah. You know, we have you ever driven a schooner that far. I just assumed that they drove it three miles yet the furthest. I've driven is scooter is I live off of a thirty fourth in Indiana. I went to a coffee shop Jane be and then I went to campus. And then I went downtown, and I came back. Oh on the scooter all on the scooter, man, you logged what eight miles is that what that was. I felt like five miles about you know. Okay. It didn't it didn't feel that far. It's time to be on the schooner, though, were you scared for your life and Lubbock. Here's the problem with it is that the streets are like runways right with striping on yet. But I would say having the fifty mile an hour. Forty mile an hour residential roads. Those are very dangerous across on a scooter. But the the bike lanes going around, you know, take terrorists in Texas, Tech and. And you know, going into downtown the those actually provide some since of security, I will say that, you know, people on bicycles. Don't appreciate you zipping by them on your scooter because they're working to get where they're going. But I'm paying the get where I'm going, you know, by the miles. So I feel like evens out some hold on hold on breaking news away holiday. Wait breaking news right now. I gotta go out there to my. To my renew and oh my God. There are people at my door. And I don't know who they are. Oh, man. The ring neighborhood is one of the worst things to be affiliated with peeler L lost dog. Oh my God. There are people on my door. You know, what people are on your doorstep? All the time that you don't know. Now, I'm not advocating that people go to doorsteps and take things on the doorsteps, but strangers come to your door all the time. That's why you have a door yet. They might be the neighbors. You don't know. Because all you ever do is enter into your garage on the back of the house the ring app. We're actually in the same neighborhood Wheeler Montgomery, right? I mean, we live within a couple of blocks of each other. No, not a couple of blocks. I mean, come to really. Yeah. I'm on thirty ninth street. Hey, don't specify where you live only while they're thirty four in Indiana, come on down. People. I'll all record YoM Iran's. How paranoid people are? Yeah. Well, I did get a listener. I did get a listener communication. It said that I need to be more careful when they were might Missouri's on the program because it brings out my paranoia and somebody is going to extract audio from that one day, and it may sound a little bit like this. You think I'd like shocked by bashing because I don't like gay people. I don't like him putting chemicals in the water that turned the frigging frogs day. Do you understand that? Crap. Oh, man. Yeah. I've been told that never bizarre is on the air that that's kind of what I begin to sound like the great for gay agenda. Okay. So let's get into some some news. Okay. Have you been to Midland lately, I was in Midland about a month ago? That drive is beautiful. I would say, yeah. It's just majestic seeing the these giant hundred foot flames shooting off into the air. And well, it's not even that. I'll tell you what I think here's my head. Okay. My the hill is driving the Midland. In one hundred and twenty degree heat with no air conditioner, having to listen to Sean Hannity, sing mariachi music. That's my idea of hill. But that's back. Whenever three forty nine was just two lanes. Now, it's four lanes spacious nice. Yeah. And you don't have your your windshield getting rocked by all the will filled trucks. But anyway, I digress. Go ahead. Hannity's had some voice lessons since then. But boom, you know on authorized air pollution in Texas up twenty seven percent. I'm reading this off the Tribune who who made it unauthorized who they're saying that it's you know, sixty three million pounds of hazardous and climate warming pollutants. They're they're just letting it loose or is it coming from coming from Lynn Midland Odessa Permian basin. Oh, so they pinpointed Midland Odessa. Yes. West texas. What's what's the headline on the story? And is read it. Okay. Who wrote the story? Call your Kia. All right. I don't know if it's guy girl. That's girl. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sixty three million pounds. We're poisoning this area in the air. Yeah. That must really freaky out Daniel, it'll absolutely freaks me out because natural gas burns cleaner than oil. It's clean energy. You know, they're talking about, you know, clean coal. Whatever actually natural gas is Howard going to, you know, transition as they say, you know, agrees with you who Vladimir Putin does that make you feel. I'll have to he's red white and blue in a different way, by the way. Okay. Yeah. I I don't know about that. But I will I will say that, you know, natural gas. There's a lot of it. We need to capture it being to sell it make more money. How many pails into the air sixty three million? Kevin. I even get that calculation. They have satellites spectrometry spent you know, whatever I cough because I was about start laughing. Oh, yeah. Satellites can measure weight salads can measure volume and amounts. Wow. Yeah. Is there anything else you're concerned about I would say? You're not going to like this one. So why are we going to do it? Because. I wanna get you Daniel digital Guten millennial. Guru friday. Yeah. Yeah. They they bought the illegal voters. Well, yeah, they did. I don't know why you say that's going to upset me. They put out they've gas lighted that all these illegal voters voted trying. What I think what you see is both sides trying to come up with let me riff on this from. All right. See I knew this was going to be a good thing is that you're beginning to see both sides kinda push poll in the public opinion things that matter, right. So the Republicans, and I think I don't disagree on this account late term abortions is the big thing that they're pushing right now that places like New York, and I think for Jinya the Virginia governor wanting pushing for like last-second abortions, lying dilation and a boarding at that point. That's and then, but I don't want to get off in the whole thing about abortion. Yeah. Yeah. Because I happen to believe that you can understand how the economy works be against abortion. It's not an either or in. I don't know why we've turned this into you have to be in. There are folks to do the solid time. They do this for a living in this is what our politics of our day. Are you have to be baited with your social concerns in order to be exploited with your economic interests? And it just bothers me all get out the Democrats on the other hand. How much of the Tom on air? Do I spend in a populous fury saying that both parties of sold out the middle class both parties have absolutely sold out the middle class. The Republicans did it with the last tax cut, the Democrats have gone from the working man's party to this identity politics, conglomeration of all these different groups. Well, and it drives me crazy that in order. So now, you can't be a democrat because you're concerned about your 4._0._1._K like my grandfather was right or my great-grandfather now, maybe not 4._0._1._K, but just that somebody had the working man's interest in in mind. So they weren't exploited by Rockefeller in Republican interests Rockerfeller in I think is a word. But it weren't exploited by big capital interest right now that Democratic Party is no longer. That's not their lead anymore. It's all globalism, man. It's down like at the in the middle of the party platform. And that's what grinds my gears about. If Democrats brought that back up today at that. Were there lead issue, then I might be able to go with them. But all this identity politics that I gotta be cool with at the distraction. I gotta be cool with all these as you say distractions, then no, thank you. And I'll just try. I'll do my best to keep Republican interests on the ball. Yeah. Democrat interests are not going to be paying he sort of attention to it. It's keyword politics. And it's you know, rage rage politics. You know, your outrage it's so much easier to communicate online, if you're outraged about something you wanna signal your morals to your friends, and you know, you wanna. Hit. The key words. That's the deal is I want is the morals of the Democratic Party right now. I would say in the morals, the Democratic Party is I'm rich. I can take care of you. That's what that's what you know. You see all these billionaires right now coming out saying, oh, you know, vote me and you'll get your university. You'll get your, you know, healthcare, you'll get your benefits. I'm I know what you need. I'm gonna take care of you know, that's what they're saying. I can go with you on that to a degree. But it's also you better be down with LGBTQ. You better be down with this identity group that I mean, you gotta check like seven check marks before you get down into blue collar economics right in. That's the democratic party's problem right now is that they don't see that they can seize upon that. And like, it's. Like, I hear Republicans say all the time. We have a huge deficit in this country. And it's because of it's because of food stamps, and it's because of Healthcare's run awry, and the poor feeding upon food and health care, and there are huge loopholes in this country. Even the even the controller of the state of Texas has gone in and said, if you wanna root coop some money, we ought to close some of these loophole, right? Like some like, I can't even remember what the number was. It was billions and billions of dollars spent the Republicans like let's start with this. If you wanna fix the federal deficit. I'll I'll go tick for tech with you. Yeah. Let's do something about food stamps. Because even if you did something about food stamps in the day, I'm convinced that you would not you would not do nearly the deficit reduction that Republicans have in mind, if you did something about food stamps and the loopholes now, you got some traction, right? But who's given out who's don't want out all the money in order to have those loopholes? So they aren't going to go against that what we need in this country is a bipartisan effort to eliminate. To eliminate welfare mitigate she'd say, mitigate welfare and mitigate loopholes and just go back and forth left and right left. We'll do this. You do that. We'll do this. You do that back and forth back and forth. And then you'll see some traction on the deficit, and what's happened with kind of loopholes we've made for people, and I hear all the time. Well. You know, that's we shouldn't just be given away that money will we are giving away money, and we're giving away exponential money to wealthy capitalize interest. I would say, you know, if you're gonna play on your foil hat, look up, the Panama papers there are so many prime ministers in all these other countries that were jailed because what they're doing is. They're offshoring the responsibility there offshoring their accounts. It's super easy to do. Everyone's doing it. I mean, apple they have billions and billions of dollars cash. They're not paying taxes, and then to US company, and and also you have, you know, nothing not a word yet. Tim cook. He's I mean, they push. I mean, the company itself pushes all these social agendas, but I mean, the number one social agendas to pay your Bill, you know, pay your responsibility and tables saying, so this is gonna be me heaven Mon integrity here. I've got my new ipad pro right here. We were sung about before the show. I'm trying to buy your old one. And. Yeah. And I've got my often ten right here. Okay. I've got my air pods in my pocket, your flex and bro. So. Oh. I say that to say if my air pods cost me two hundred dollars right to be made in a way that is has some reciprocity to listen, then I would pay for for the quality. Right. Somebody told me other day prices only concern whenever values not involved. And if you're given real value for what you're paying for. Then you're gonna pay for it in those products are worth paying a hold on. We've gone a long ways off turn my point is this that the Republicans with what you said about illegal voting in elections that was a flyer in. I think in irresponsible flyer by the attorney general in the secretary say even the former secretary of state of Texas saying that that was the wrong thing to do what they tried to do was trumpeted up. And I'm not using Trump is upon they are trying to trumpet a. An election issue, and they made it sound like ninety five thousand people voted illegally, and whenever you going to Tarrant county in this last election in November Fort Worth and you see the margins of those victories, and you begin to think ninety five thousand it was two percent difference like four thousand people decided in the lection then that begins to matter in. That's what they did. And the gas lighted it and now it's backfiring to use the same combustible metaphor. And I'm glad to see it. Listen, we got we got to go make some money. Right. Quick. We're we're way behind you know, we are. Yeah. You've really got me going. Am I going to get like ten minutes? Talk about mentorship. We'll talk about miserable. K cool. Sure. I mean. Yeah. Let's get out through get back in here. On the other side. Now Sanjay thing. They had here about looking. This. Daniel that good show millennial guru gonna show I need to enter should they introduce you better. Yeah. We do is. We take this program. And put it up on podcasts you go in and you trim out all the commercials. Yeah. You make it you spoof up the audio podcasts worthy. And then put some commercials in there. Do smo- Joe. And then you handle our social media stuff. Yeah. That's what you do here. Yeah. Yeah. Good employment. Yeah. Suitable employment. Right. I enjoy it. So I'm glad you do if you decide you don't enjoy. Then we'd have the conversation piece super awkward, but tonight is first Friday art trill in Lubbock, if you aren't in Lubbock every first Friday Lubbock, like the salt of the earth super-conservative. Folks, go downtown and just have a really good time. Probably one of the best of insa round in Texas every first Friday in downtown. But you wanna talk to us about mentor ships with first Friday arts trail, I just want to talk about the the topic of mentorship. By was going to play. I was gonna plug some stuff for first Friday. Okay. Yeah. Just go out by actually by some art. That's something that I see a lot of over the years in, you know, contributing art to art trail and having friends sent there's a law watching is not a whole lot of buying. And there's a lot of people in Lubbock that couldn't afford thirty dollars for print, and there's some you know, it's a mix. You know, there's some people who are learning their craft, and there's some people who have advanced their craft, but they're not going to become anything without a little bit of help in. You know, there's. Nothing wrong with believing in somebody buying something and the artistry level per capita in Lubbock is ridiculous. Oh, yeah. I mean, even back to what on Sunday, we're going to celebrate the day the music died writer, remember the day write music died with buddy Holly, but buddy is just one of many examples of Lubbock artists. So many, you know like right now, I'm I'm working with. I think it's because Lubbock can be such a monolithic place of we think this way, we do this thing. And then you've got these black sheep off to the side that tried to that that try and some way to demonstrate to demonstrate excuse me, what what's inside them how they really feel. I absolutely go like not like lineal. But there is some there's there's element of. Rebellion. But you know, to speak of my own experience being a creative person in this town is there's not a lot to do. So you can really focus in on your craft. There is a there's a lot more and more to do. Right. Well it eating out. I guess, you know, but as far as like, you know. There's not a whole lot of local events, you know. The there's a community of creative people at supported by the university, and you know, Luca and casper, and those organizations, so you know, there's some people to kind of like, you know, look up to and to find mentors, and but also the horizon here Eakin look at the sky in this drive out ten miles. And it feels like this is the only place in the world. So Ali ovens once said Lubbock is eighty three point three percent sky. Yeah. So there's a chance that whenever you do something here you feel like I can make it. And I think that's because you know, especially growing up in west, Texas like I felt like not as small fish in this big pond. And so, you know, it's not as crushing as, you know, if you're doing something in Dallas, and you're competing against all these people that have money time and and. Energy to compete at that level. You know, here you can actually get pretty good. But yeah, I'm working on this project with Scott fairest sent you know, I had this really interesting experience because you know, growing up as a creative person in this area. You know, this there's only one amusement park studios. And you know, that's Scott studio. I mean, there's digital base that does some stuff, but you know, it's it's just a little different. And so it's only studio I knew in town, the only place that was doing Steph at a national level. He just released a flatland cavalry second album went fourteen. I think overall really, yeah. Never did that. Yeah. Number two on the I tunes country charts when it debuted. So that's we got some flatland coury on the show. That's really big. So, you know, I've I've gone to him so many. And I've been like, hey, man, I wanna work for him or he-man. I wanna do something or you know, that sort of thing it's like hot, you know, if I could just get in there, and you know, maybe I could do something, and he turned me down, and it was really embarrassing, and in you know, hurt a lot of times. But here recently he approached me, he's like, hey, I wanna do something I'm like Sherman. So, you know cinema proposal. Some Email said, hey, you know, what the how much it's gonna cost? But I value the opportunity I'm new to this. Let me know. I don't wanna price myself out of this opportunity to work with you. And he was like, hey, man. It's all cool. But I definitely respect that you feel that way. And you know, we've been working over the past couple of weeks on this performance with L A. So it's already sold so at Lubbock Symphony Orchestra, and so we're building up. There's this great reveal. And you know, this doesn't happen very often. When you're with someone that you've looked up to for a couple years, and man it was stressful. Because like the the the stakeholders they didn't know is going to they didn't know what they were going to see. So he showed it to him. And we had this moment where you know afterwards. We just turned to him like, well, what do you think? And. They didn't they didn't have anything. I was like well is there anything you want us to change? Well, this is pretty great. And that was the conversation it will Daniel and. Yeah. In their my is my someone I look up to and he says, I knew you could do it. That's why you're here. I'm like, heck. Yeah. Man. That's a great feeling. You know? So I would say that if there are so many mentors in my life right now, you're one of them Scott's one of them. Brandon Darby's definitely one of them. And I'm in a pretty good place. There's a lot of you know, men. They're pulling me up in a it's pretty good feeling. Yeah. So that's the mentor ship. Well, I would say that's the story. The lesson is is that it didn't really I sure I've had mentors in the past. But it wasn't until became coach -able that they re. It really started to matter. It's coach -able. But you know, what the other portion of it is rave on buddy. Yeah. Rave on. Yeah. He's gotta do what you good at make your great contribution to the world. And then Ravon. Yeah. Yeah. It feels pretty good. Well, good for cool, man. So I'm gonna go out and buy some prince tonight and then check out your inventory. Yeah. I'll give you couple. If something you anything online that people can go look at oh, probably should've asked you with four the show. So you can put something together. Yeah. I should have put something together. I mean, you can go to my website. It's a portfolio website. It's Daniel the digital guru dot com. It's a I've e- ADP dot com. IV right. Like, I'm getting an being more length the Roman numeral four, but that means what like this is the most millennial on. Now may be p eighty Ivy ADP means what it means four eighty p which is a standard definition. That's the television. I grew up watching, and you know, that's I wanted to set a standard and also kind of you know, respect the people before he. Yeah. It's four eighty p respect the people before. Yeah. A respect the people who are doing it before they had a computer when they were they were making the television by hand, you know, or cutting the tape or this difficult manning respectful of elders will. Yeah, you know, 'cause I can make something on my own pretty quickly with the technology that I have. But I mean just to come up with the craft back. Then no way. Yeah. It's very difficult. Daniel I appreciate you coming out. Yeah. Man. Thanks for having me. Oh, it's always good to have you out here. It's almost like a. It's an opportunity for me just to then at the week that was you just find a way to push my buttons. And I just start going a lot of commentary. It's it's therapeutic. Yeah. I'm glad thanks for coming out. I'm glad that helps I'm gonna go get that that bird scooter cross a street. Yeah. Put it in your truck. I'm gonna take it home. And maybe it'll be on my sidewalk in the morning, and we'll go play with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me and the kiddos, you know, a decent side hustle is charging those things if you got a truck and the storage to sign up to be a charger might. I can go pick that thing up, and they aren't going to like track it and make detonate or anything right now. I can just throw it in the back of my truck. Oh, yeah. For sure in take it back to my house. Yeah. That's the thing. I don't know how much they're policing are keeping track of this those lime scooters. So I just go. Download lie map. Yeah. In tach credit card, the and charges you like, I think a dollar per mile or something like that. Yeah. We're gonna go have a big, Tom. Yeah. Hey, big time next week. We're going to have but Kennedy back on the program going to be talking about this two point five percent cap. We're going to have our friend met dough trae Ross Ramsey tried to get Brandon Darby in here. He's been so busy at the border. Trying to get Darby in here as will some Eric greeter, great guests in British sheets, you if he had any things that you'd like us cover on the program bowel means, send me an Email. But don't send me ten emails. J A Y at other side at Texas dot com, or you can just tweet at me at J A Y L E S O N, you find us on Facebook other side at Texas at O S T X show on Twitter. We have an Instagram. We might start that we have an Instagram. I'm I'm not using it as much because what is it though? I think it's at the other side, Texas, Otherside, Texas, the other side of Texas four Daniel the digital millennial guru on the therapeutic Friday as just what we're gonna start calling therapeutic Friday wish. Well, I wish you well this weekend. Thank you for listening. A lot of people. Listen on the weekends, right? Yes. Sunday's our biggest day. Appreciate you tuning in. 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And on the turn row, grab your buddies phone and just hit the podcast thing on their iphone and go subscribe to other side, Texas. We are broadcasting from the racer car wash studios race occur. Washroom room voted Lubbock best wash for five years running. Stop into one of five convenient locations across up city. For the best wash around guaranteed, and I guarantee it to racer wash dot com. This program. Is being recorded on the Friday. So we're going to have little Friday leisurely activities we roll along here. Daniel the digital millennial. Guru just roll in brow has some news notes that we're gonna get into. And they can talk about first Friday arts trail in Lubbock, which is a big deal when Daniels got some some clue it's a pretty big millennial scene. Yeah. I would say it is. I'm actually going to I've got a new a new office. I'm gonna go maybe pick up a couple of prince tonight. I first Friday arts trail, we'll let me know if you wanna print out I have a few. You're gonna have to talk louder. Oh, sorry. My bad. Yeah. If if you want some photos, I've taken quite a few for the city. Lubbock sound? Yeah. So think about you. Yeah. I'll give me a discount. I just printed off a free to slam. You got by the frame. But man now, we'll never mind I'm not going to purse Friday art trill. So we'll get into that man, especially after the show. So last night, I had a political opinion e. Wow. And I'm gonna do what I do. And it's ray-ban here. Even if it flusters some folks. Yesterday. I let this program with one question because we get with the newsmakers we do the interviews throughout the course of the week. And then I get to go home drive home. I don't have on the radio. I just think about what I've heard. Is can like, oh, you think about the podcast you get done or you're listening on live air think about what you've heard, and I just think I don't come to the show with an agenda. I wanna know things I'm curious right in that's the power of a microphone is. I'm curious about this. Let's get what these people. Let's see what they have to say. An apparently a lot of people share your same curiosity out. So I don't want to want to have people on the program. I would want to run a program that I listen to that's kind of my mantra, if if I wouldn't listen to it than I do in it k-. Yeah. And we got to be original smart funny. That's always my roles original smartphone. So we get people who radio on like us on the program and get to hear about it. But I let the program yesterday. Of course, we're we were talking about house Bill two in Senate Bill two and this Kuhn. Mbai yob between the house and the Senate on how we're going to take the rates. Well, what we're gonna do is we're gonna lower the rollback rate to two point five percent from the current eight percent for all taxing units. Mostly cities and counties with more than fifty million dollars in combined property and sales tax revenue, which would exempt a lot of rural counties and rural communities. But I just begin to think about that in the more. I thought about it there. It's a two tiered problem that you hear. The loudest and most vocal that I hear is that it's it's public education stupid. The state is not putting in the money that it ought to republication in. So we're having to pay up from a mostly residential lots commercials. But from a residential property standpoint, we're paying the difference of what the state is not kicking in any more people want to see their taxes decrease and the best way to see them decrease is for the state to kiddyish put more money in the kitty in order to alleviate property tax. But if that's the main problem attained gentle problem that we hear about is that we need to put a cat back down. Now back during the Carter will before the Carter administration. I think cats were like at four percent and then in play shin and all that stuff just roared up and then over the past thirty forty years. We've inc. Our way back up to eight percent in that's a cap. You can't go over eight percent in a fiscal year. And if you do you've gotta have rollback rate election, people go to the polls in vote on whether or not ready want those taxes to increase. So what a lot of most by and large. They don't approach eight percent unless it's a rural county that's had a bad commodity year in they have to jump up to fix it. We've had Lee Norman Garza county with other people on the program to discuss that. But now it's at eight percent and in order to in. This is the problem. That's mark. My words it's going to be a problem. Two years. It's being sold as your property taxes are going to go down. They're not gonna go down. They may be limited. But they won't go down in even if they are limited. Here's the problem. What are you gonna do for? Well, we need certain money. For roads, we need certain amount of money for for personnel. We need certain amount of the four health care. Will you can't bond personnel? You can't bomb healthcare. So what do you do with your budget? You take care of the health care. You take care of. You're going to take care of the personnel in hiring personnel. And where do you gonna do in bonds? You're gonna go for that infrastructure for the roads, you're gonna go for all that other stuff. So to me on its face. This seems to be because who's gonna vote against roads Lubbock counties about the have a bond election roads, you think that it's going to get voted down. I don't think it's gonna get voted down because they're going to put roads in outta Lou. Reagan put them going to shallow water. They're gonna put maybe throw little Dom up to Abernethy. And then they're going to build Woodrow road in front of the third fastest growing school district in Texas Cooper. And then the new loop. Well, that won't be on the bond. Okay. I don't know. That's a totally different incidents. Okay. It's not your job to know. I just thought was thrown in. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to. But so far is what the county's responsible for. They're about to have this big bond election and people are going to vote for it because they have to vote for it. So at the end of the day, I think all we're doing is saying, okay, we'll go with the lower cap. It won't end it two point five. Five because there's a guy what's his name? The guy in Amarillo, oh kill seller to is not going to be down with two point five. And so right, then the house has already smirking saying it's going to be six percent. It's going to be between between eight and six that's going to be what the negoti with the negotiation goes to at the end of the day. At least that's my initial rate unless Dan Patrick gets a few Democrats go in with them in the Senate which. Which they've been known to do. Yeah. He's been known to be able to flip Democrats in the Senate and. My initial read on all of this in up put this up last night on Twitter foam, along at j Leeson on Twitter, but. On twitter. I said last night that this my big tech. Sledge question of the day is school finance is the chief cause of rising property taxes. And it is why wasn't a joint school finance fix rolled out before HP to an SP two. That's the question. And what begins just begins just want people to hear me out. I'm just asking you on question here. The way the story's been billed as Dennis Bonnin came in and pick pocketed. At least. It's the way I've heard folks with text Tribune tell story the he came in and pick pocketed everybody else and became speaker of the house came out of nowhere. Here's my operating theory right now bond was always in play because Bonham wanted these tax caps last legislature. The governor wants to look as though he's done something about property taxes. It's now the highest ranking, well, it's got the most voter approval behind it. I think it's an inside job. And I'm gonna say it here and people are gonna be upset about it later. I think that Bonnin. I think that in. I don't want to say do not hear me say Dennis bond is the most calculated shrewdest smartest man in tex- politics right now. But I think that bond was always play, and it was a play that was going to come out last second because the rule is talked with a lot of people down the legislature as speaker process rolled out. Their response to me was you don't be the first guy out the gate. He don't want to be the second or the third you the horse that comes out later. And I think that Vaughn and stayed in the stable and. I think that I don't know who orchestrated this. But they are the genius in Texas right now, there's some Karl rove junior out there that orchestrated this. I think that Bonham was now I think that Bonham was gonna be the speaker under the governor's guidance in a. A widely calculated effort. Now. That's my first theory. The second theory is that in was on board with tax caps. Less legislature got shot down in ways and means came back out went back out. I think it like six percent down from eight percent cap and the people who win against him pay the price for it once bond became speaker. They got sideline the session and. It's either that it was an inside job or bond and saw the opportunity in people in the middle who didn't have a lot of power under Strauss. Saul the opportunity to get behind Bonnin and present a majority. That's my operating theory right now, I've not heard anybody else say it, I'm giving you originally thought. But that's how I see how things have unfolded in. That's that comes to bear on tweeted last night. Why you saw house Bill to come out before school finance fix because the school finance fix? Now. Can you even do school finance fix? If you're at two percent two point five, and you don't know how you're gonna come up with the monies that schools are shorted in. What's the Senate doing right now? Daniel digital millennial. Guru is the Senate on board for porn a bunch of money in the school districts? Into government entities or do. They want to give money to teachers some three billion dollars to go straight to teachers thousand dollar a year, raise, you know, they want the money to go directly to teachers not to make the school district solvent and make property taxes go down, but you know, how much of an impact is five thousand dollars a year when you're making twenty five thousand dollars a year, you know, that's significant already dismiss it. But if the core issue if at the center of the core the issue is. Like the teacher salary. That's penalty. That's that secondary. Right. It's close. But it's not the heart of the matter. The heart of the matter right now is what do you do to put money into school districts? So that your property taxes? Go down the Senate is not on board. With making your property taxes? Go down from the school district level. They don't want to go back twenty years in take your fifty five cents of every dollar and turn that back into more like thirty eight cents every dollar that you put into your property taxes. They are not on board with that. They want to continue. The course that we're on and it's not gonna fix anything and ultimate thing. At the end of the day is nobody's property taxes are going down. Nobody's property taxes are going down. They may be mitigated under HP too. But it's not going down. And then you look at other issues in Lubbock county, which is fertile ground for crazy succumb from outside to within in lots of people with like, so many of the core activists of the Lubbock county Republican party. I don't even know what they do for a living because they don't know about real economy. They don't know how the place works. They know what makes it turn. And what makes the Lubbock economy work in upset it, and I'll say it again, medical and healthcare in the downtown. What's number one, vocation Lubbock? It's nursing right. It's agriculture in federal programs for agriculture, and it's higher Ed in public it. And then everybody who gets contracts from there. That's. My love has such a thriving. Thriving small business industry that we do. And that's not to say that nobody works hard. They work hard for this contracts. I'm not saying that there's anything shady going on there. I think that hard working people earned the contracts that they get but people at the core. And I challenge anybody from not even challenge I invite some of the core activists in Lubbock county Republican party to come on air in challenge me on that point because I will put your teeth on the curb instead on the back of your head because figuratively, right? I just you know, American history x. Yeah. You know, I'm glad that you've seen that. Yeah. Digital ru to forget. But that's how a lot of rural. Not just Lubbock, but rural economy works now is around those industries that are commercial enterprises that happened to be government. I think back to Lubbock county did a. The federal government came in and said that Lubbock county needed to build a new detention center, right and said it was a federal judgment that said you will build a new detention center. So. The county put out put it out to vote. Of course, it pass overwhelmingly. But if you're gonna build in what was a seven eleven and you got to build a new WalMart super WalMart of detention centers. Guess what you have to do. Then when you got to find contractors, right? You gotta find personnel are new people and new people with benefits that make it a job worth doing. So you don't have low lies off the street. Just coming in saying. Yeah, I can I can handle this unit. Well, what does that cost is my point right cost? So what do you do tax Bill up to eight percent right now? Do you put that out for another vote? Yes. And there will be people people with whom I disagree, but people who will say, well, of course, tax payers would see the need. For that. Right. But what about when outside interests come in and say, you don't need that you can manage what you have. Well, then it becomes a little bit more complicated because you had to hire at least a third third more than what you had to manage that new detention center, and but that was from a federal mandate. Right. Right. And so there are the commodity are they're made on the rural county basis that you know, you could have wheat here, and then it could drop down and then the next year for you to go. Eight percent more you were the year before in anywhere near where you were three years before. But whenever you get mandates coming down. What if people say, no, what if Lubbock county were say, no, I think plausible Lubbock county could say, no, we're not gonna go beyond the two point five percent. Right. So what happens in Kelly Roden get the new vehicles that he needs at the sheriff's at the county sheriff's level. He doesn't get. The patrol cars. Any needs to trace track down? Narko terrorists on county roads going in do you want? Do you want your county sheriff deputies driving around in ten year? Vehic teen year old fifteen year old vehicle going one hundred ten miles an hour. A doubt it doubt. That's what you want. That's not really ensuring the public interest. Now, maybe they should hire me to make the pitch whenever they need to go beyond the two point five. But that they're going to put the handcuffs on local entities. Like that is not local control in this one on the close the segment with here, we go. Yardley know where I'm going. I feel it Pete Laney boom. Pete Laney will smirk at you and say twenty five years ago, those Republicans came up to Capra, and they said they were going to do something about local control and term limits, and then he'll be silent for moment. And then he'll say I seen them do nothing about either one of those things you, and that's the problem, and I speak from an independent of you on this on this radio station, but in Lubbock in places like Lubbock, this may stick, but in other places places that tinged purple last election cycle this stuff does not stick. And I'll just quote, my good friend. I'll you go from Pete Laney, the Brandon Darby it's because of rural regions that Republicans still stand, right? And if we continue this kind of legislation and continue this handcuffing local officials. From making what's best for their place. Policy, then Republicans will continue to lose in until the real problems address in that school finance. Republicans will lose in. We'll believe me the house could turn in twenty twenty turned democratic. Well, you know, it's up to millennials. You know? We're we're woke as they say, you're they cly but four how old are you me? I'm turning thirty this year. So it's starting to matter to me. And definitely I'm I guess I'm in the more of the middle as far as millennials go. But you know, like researching to build families for starting to, you know, pay taxes for the first time, I think, you know, this will be my third year to pay taxes. So it's starting to matter to me a mate, you know, like what's happening with the money that I'm getting you know, what kind of education are my children going to get you know, were fairly left leaning, not me, particularly. So where do you want it to go just watching and you gotta make arguments that mattered people. Yes. It's the people who vote hey again to get into quick break. Got kind of carried away their get him with some news. She got some news force. We need a little bit of news. I have like a, you know, soft segment where we're gonna talk about mentorship in this experience right now. Right. Okay. Okay. You know, a plug some, you know, first Friday art trail, you know, that source Aaron Lubbock. Yeah. That's where we're headed after the show stick right with us here on the other side of good fry casual Friday here on the program be right back with the quick break. Better weather. With. Stones. We were driving the end Daniel. And there is we've got the scooter epidemic in Lubbock right now. People love them hate him. But we're out at sixty six in MLK in Lubbock, which is by Lubbock standards in the middle of nowhere. Yep. Or no sidewalks? There's a field just to our north in up in the corner of the field is lime scooter scooter. Yeah. You know, have you ever driven a schooner that far? I just assume that they drove it three miles yet the furthest. I've driven scooter is I live off of a thirty fourth in Indiana. I went to a coffee shop Jane be and then I went to campus. And then I went downtown. And I came back all on the scooter on the scooter man, you logged what eight miles is out. That was I felt like five miles about, you know. Okay. It didn't feel that far. It's time to be on the schooner though, where you scared for your life and love it. Here's the problem with love. It is that the streets are like runways right with striping on yet. The I would say having the fifty mile an hour. Forty mile an hour residential roads. Those are very dangerous across on a scooter. But the the bike lanes going around, you know, take terrorists in Texas tag. And. And going into downtown the those actually provide some since of security, I will say that, you know, people on bicycles. Don't appreciate using by them on your scooter because they're working to get where they're going. But I'm paying the get where I'm going, you know, by the miles. So I feel like evens out some old on hold on breaking news away. Wait breaking news right now. I gotta go out there to my. To my reading and oh my God. There are people at my door. And I don't know who they are. Oh, man. The ring neighborhood is one of the worst things to be affiliated with people L loss dog. Oh my God. There are people on my door. You know, what people are on your doorstep? All the time that you don't know. Now, I'm not advocating that people go to doorsteps and take things on the doorsteps, but strangers come to your door all the time. That's why you have a door. Yeah. They might be the neighbors. You don't know. Because all you ever do is enter into your garage on the back of the house the ring at we're actually in the same neighborhood Wheeler Montgomery, right? I mean, we live within a couple of blocks of each other. No, not a couple of blocks. I mean, come really. Yeah. I'm on thirty ninth street. Hey, don't specify where you live there. You said thirty four in Indiana, come on down. People. I'll all record him Iran's. How paranoid people are as well. I will I did get a listener. I did get a listener communication that said that I need to be more careful whenever might bazaars on the program because it brings out my paranoia and somebody is going to extract audio from that one day, and it may sound a little bit like this. You think I'd like shocked by bashing because I don't like gay people. I don't like putting chemicals in the water that turned the frigging frogs gay. Do you understand that? Crap. Oh, man. Yeah. I've been told that never bizarre is on there that that's kind of what I begin the sound like great for gauge into. Okay. So let's get into some some news. Okay. Have you been to Midland lately, I was in Midland about a month ago? That drive is beautiful. I would say, yeah. It's just majestic seeing the these giant hundred foot flames shooting off into the air. And well, it's not even that. I'll tell you what I think here's my head. Okay. My the hill is driving the Midland. In one hundred twenty degree heat with no air conditioner. Having the listen to Sean Hannity, sing mariachi music. That's Mahdia hill. But that's back. Whenever three forty nine was just two lanes. Now, it's four lanes spacious. Yeah. And you don't have your your windshield getting rocked by all the wheel trucks. But anyway, I digress. Go ahead. Hannity's had some voice lessons since then. But boom, you know on authorized air pollution in Texas up twenty seven percent. I'm reading this off the Tribune who who made it unauthorized who they're saying that it's, you know, sixty three million pounds of hazardous in climate warming pollutants. They're they're just letting it loose or is it coming from coming from Midland Odessa Permian basin. Oh, so they pinpointed Midland Odessa. Yes. West texas. What's what's the headline on the story? And is read it. Okay. Who wrote the story? Call your. All right. I don't know if it's guy girl. That's girl. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sixty three million pounds. We're poisoning this area in the air. Yeah. That must really freak you out. Daniel it's absolutely freaks me out because natural gas burns cleaner than oil. It's clean energy. You know, they're talking about clean coal. Whatever actually natural gas is Howard going to, you know, transition as they say, you know, agrees with you who Vladimir Putin does that make you feel. I'll have to he's red white and blue in a different way, by the way. Okay. Yeah. I don't know about that. But I will I will say that, you know, natural gas. There's a lot of it. We need to capture it being to sell it make more money. How many pails into the air sixty three million? Even get that calculation. They have satellites spectrometry spent you know, whatever I cough because I was about start laughing. Oh, yeah. Satellites can measure weight salads can measure volume and amounts. Wow. Yeah. Is there anything else you're concerned about I would say? You're not gonna like this one. So why are we gonna do it? Because. I wanna get you Daniel digital Gutman lineal. Guru friday. Yeah. Yeah. The they bought the illegal voters. Well, yeah, they did. I don't know why you say that's gonna upset me. They put out they gas lighted that all these illegal voters voted trying to what I think what you see is both size trying to come up with let me riff on this from. All right. See I knew this was going to be a good thing is that you're beginning to see both sides kinda push poll in the public opinion things that matter, right. So the Republicans, and I think I don't disagree on this account late term abortions is the big thing that they're pushing right now that places like New York, and I think for Jinya the Virginia governor wanting pushing for like last-second abortions, lying dilation and a boarding at that point. That's and then, but I don't wanna get off in the whole thing about abortion. Yeah. Yeah. Because I happen to believe that you can understand how the commie works Ambi against abortion. It's not an either or in. I don't know why we've turned this into you have to be in their folks to do this all the time they do this for a living. And this is what our politics are. They are yet to be baited with your social concerns in order to be exploited with your economic interests. And it just bothers me all get out the Democrats on the other hand. How much of the Tom on the air? Do I spend in a populous fury saying that both parties of sold out the middle class both parties have absolutely sold out the middle class. The Republicans did it with the last tax cut. The Democrats have gone from the working man's party to this identity. Politics, conglomeration of all these different groups, and it drives me crazy that in order. So now, you can't be a democrat because you're concerned about your 4._0._1._K like my grandfather was right or my great grandfather. Now, maybe not 4._0._1._K, but just that somebody had the working man's interest in in mind. So they weren't exploited by Rockefeller in Republican interests Rockefeller in. I think is a word. But it weren't exploited by big capital interests right now that democratic parties no longer that's not their lead. Anyone that's all globalism, man. It's down like at the in the middle of the party platform. And that's what grinds my gears about. If Democrats brought that back up today at that. Were there lead issue? The I might be able to go with them. But all this identity politics that I gotta be cool with a distraction gonna be cool with all these as you say distractions, then no, thank you. And I'll just try. I'll do my best to keep Republican interests on the ball. Yeah. Democrat interests are not going to be paying sort of attention to it. It's keyword politics. And it's you know, rage rage politics. You know, your outrage it's so much easier to communicate online if you're outraged about something you wanna signal your morals to your friends, and you wanna hit. The key words the deal is I want is the morals of the Democratic Party right now. I would say the morals the Democratic Party is I'm rich, and I can take care of you. That's what that's what you know. You see all these billionaires right now coming out saying, oh, you know, vote me and you'll get your university. You'll get your. You know, healthcare, you'll get your benefits. I'm I know what you need. I'm gonna take care of you know, that's what they're saying. I can go with you on that to a degree. But it's also you better be down with LGBTQ. You better be down with this identity group that I mean, you gotta check like seven check marks before you get down into blue collar economics right in. That's the democratic party's problem right now is that they don't see that they can seize upon that. And like it's like, I hear Republicans say all the time. We have a huge deficit in this country, and it's because of because of food stamps, and it's because of Healthcare's run awry, and the poor feeding upon food and health care there are huge loopholes in this country. Even the even the controller of the state of Texas has gone in and said, if you wanna root coop some money, we ought to close some of these loophole, right? Like some like, I can't even remember what the number was it was billions and billions of dollars. But the Republicans like let's start with this. If you wanna fix the federal deficit. I'll I'll go tic TAC with you. Yeah. Let's do something about food stamps. Because even if you did something about food stamps today, I'm convinced that you would not you would not do nearly the deficit reduction that Republicans have in mind if you did. Something about food stamps and the loopholes now, you got some traction, right? But who's given whose don't want out all the money in order to have those loopholes? So they are going to go against that what we need in this country is about partisan effort to eliminate. To eliminate welfare mitigate she'd say, mitigate welfare and mitigate loopholes and just go back and forth left. And right left. Will do this. You do that. We'll do this. You do that back and forth back and forth. And then you'll see some traction on the deficit, and what's happened with kind of loopholes we've made for people, and I hear all the time. Well. You know, that's we shouldn't just be giving away that money. Well, we are giving away money, and we're giving away exponential money to wealthy capitalize interest. I would say, you know, if you're gonna put on your foil hat, look up, the Panama papers there are so many prime ministers in all these other countries that were jailed because what they're doing is. They're offshoring the responsibility there off-shoring their accounts. It's super easy to do. Everyone's doing it. I mean, apple they have billions and billions of dollars cash. They're not paying taxes, and then to US company and also you have, you know, nothing not a word. Yeah. Ten quick. He's I mean, they push. I mean, the company itself pushes all these social agendas, but I mean, the number one social agendas to pay your Bill pay your responsibility and say. So this is gonna be me heaven Mon integrity here. I've got my new op-ed Pru right here. We were sung about before the show. I'm trying to buy your old one. And. Yeah. And I've got my ofon ten right here. Okay. I've got my air pods in my pocket, you're flexing, bro. So. Oh. I say that to say if my air pods cost me two hundred dollars right to be made in a way that is has some reciprocity to this. Then I would pay for for the quality bright somebody told me other day prices, only concern, whatever values not involved, and if you're given real value for what you pay him for then you're gonna pay for it in those products are paying a hold on. We've gone a long ways off turn point is this that the Republicans with what you said about the legals voting in elections that was a flyer in. I think in irresponsible flyer by the attorney general in the secretary say even the former secretary of state of Texas saying that that was the wrong thing to do what they tried to do was trumpeted up. And I'm not using Trump is upon they are trying to trumpet a. An election issue, and they made it sound like ninety five thousand people voted illegally whenever you going to Tarrant county in this last election in November Fort Worth and you see the margins of those victories, and you begin to think ninety five thousand it was two percent difference like four thousand people decided in election, then that begins to matter in. That's what they did. And they gas lighted it. And now it's backfiring to use the same combustible metaphor. And I'm glad to see it. Listen, we got we got to go make some money. Right. Quick. We're we're way behind we are. Yeah. You've really got me going, and I going to get like, ten minutes talk about mentorship. I think we'll talk about Mr.. Okay, cool shirt. I mean. Yeah. Now, let's get out through get back in here on the other side. Thing here about. Daniel that good show millennial guru gone show. I need to enter should they introduce you better. Yeah. We do is. We take this program. And put it up on podcasts you go in and you trim out all the commercials. Yeah. You make it you spoof up to audio podcasts worthy in put some commercials in there. Do smo- Joe and them you handle our social media stuff. Yeah. That's what you do here. Yeah. Yeah. Good employment. Yeah. Suitable employment. Right. I enjoy it. So I'm glad you do if you said you don't enjoy then we'd have conversation piece super awkward, but tonight is first Friday art trill in Lubbock, if you aren't in Lubbock every first Friday Lubbock like these salt of the earth super-conservative folk. Go downtown. And just have a really good time. Probably one of the best of insurrection in Texas every first Friday in downtown. But you wanna talk to about mentor ships with first Friday arts trail, I just want to talk about the the topic of mentorship. But I was going to I was gonna plug some stuff for first Friday. Okay. Yeah. Just go out by actually by some art at something that I see a lot of over the years in, you know, contributing art to art trail and having friends sent there's a law watching is now a whole lot of buying and there's a lot of people in Lubbock that could afford thirty dollars for print. There's you know, it's a mix. You know, there's some people who are learning their craft, and there's some people who have advanced their craft, but they're not going to become anything without a little bit of help in. You know, there's nothing wrong with believing. And somebody buying something. And but the artistry level per capita in Lubbock is ridiculous. Oh, yeah. Even back to what on Sunday, we're going to celebrate the day the music died. Remember the day write music died with buddy, Holly. But buddy is just one of many examples of Lubbock artists. So many, you know, like right now, I'm working with think it's because Lubbock can be such a monolithic place of we think this way, we do this thing. And then you've got these black sheep off to the side that tried to try and some way to demonstrative to demonstrate skis me what what's inside them. How they really feel. I absolutely go like not like lineal. There is some there's there's element of. Rebellion. But you know, to speak of my own experience being creative person in this town is there's not a lot to do. So you can really focus in on your craft. There is a there's a lot more and more to do. Right. Well it eating out. I guess, you know, but as far as like, you know. There's not a whole lot of local events, you know. There's a community of creative people at supported by the university, and you know, Luca and casper, and those organizations, so you know, there's some people to kind of like, you know, look up to and find mentors, and but also the horizon here Eakin, look the sky in this drive out ten miles. And it feels like this is the only place in the world. So Ali ovens once said Lubbock is eighty three point three percent sky. Yeah. So there's a chance that whenever you do something here you feel like I can make it. And I think that's because you know, especially growing up west, Texas like I felt like not as small fish in this big pond. And so, you know, it's not as crushing as, you know, if you're doing something in Dallas, and you're competing against all these people that have money time and and. Energy to compete at that level. You know, here you can actually get pretty good. But yeah, I'm working on this project with Scott Farris, Saint, you know, I had this really interesting experience because you know, growing up as a creative person in this area. You know, this there's only one amusement park studios. And you know, that's Scott studio. I mean, there's digital base that does some stuff, but you know, it's it's just a little different. And so it's only studio I knew in town, the only place that was doing Steph at national level. He just released a flatland Calgary's second album went fourteen. I think overall really, yeah. Never did that. Yeah. Number two on the I tunes country charts when it debuted. That's we got some Plattling coury on the show. That's really big. So, you know, I've I've gone to him so many. And I've been like, hey, man, I wanna work for him or he-man. I wanna do something or you know, that sort of thing it's like hard. You know, if I could just get in there, and you know, maybe I could do something then he turned me down, and it was really embarrassing, and in you know, hurt a lot of times. But here recently he approached me like, hey, I wanna do something I'm like Sherman. So, you know cinema proposal. Some Email said, hey, you know, what the how much it's gonna cost? But I value the opportunity I'm new to this. Let me know. I don't wanna price myself out of this opportunity to work with you. And he was like, hey, man. It's all cool. But I definitely respect that you feel that way. And you know, we've been working over the past couple of weeks on this performance with L A. So it's already sold so Lubbock Symphony Orchestra. And so we're building up. There's this great reveal. And you know, this doesn't happen very often where you're with someone that you've looked up to for couple years. And man it was stressful. Because like the the the stakeholders they didn't know is going to they know what they going to see. So he showed it to them. And we had this moment where you know afterwards. We just turn to like what what do you think? And. They didn't they didn't have anything. I was like well desert anything you want us to change. Well, this is pretty great. That was the conversation. Well, Daniel and yeah. In their my is my someone I look up to and he says, I knew you could do it. That's why you're here. I'm like, heck. Yeah. Man. That's a great feeling. You know? So I would say that there are so many mentors in my life right now, you're one of them Scott's one of them brain Darby's, definitely one of them. And I'm in a pretty good place. There's a lot of you know, men. They're pulling me up in a it's pretty good feeling. Yeah. So that's the mentor ship. Well, I would say that's the story. The lesson is is that it didn't really I sure I've had mentors in the past. But it wasn't until became coach -able that they it. It really started to matter. It's coach -able. But you know, what the other portion of it is rave on buddy. Yeah on. Yeah. He's gotta do what you good at make your great contribution to the world. And then Ravon. Yeah. Yeah. Feels pretty good. Well, good for cool, man. So I'm gonna go out and buy some prince tonight and then check out your inventory. Yeah. I'll give you a couple if something anything online that people go look at oh, probably should ask you for the show. So you can put something together. Yeah. Should put something together. I mean, you can go to my website. It's a portfolio website. It's Daniel the digital dot com. Now, it's a ADP dot com. IV right. Like, I'm getting off being more length the Roman numeral four, but that means what like this is the most millennial on. Now may be eighty Ivy ADP means what it means four eighty p which is a standard definition. That's the television. I grew up watching, and you know, that's I wanted to set a standard and also kind of you know, respect the people before the. Yeah, it's four eighty p respect the people before. Yeah. Respect the people who are doing it before they had a computer when they are. They were making the television by hand, you know, or cutting the tape or. This difficult man being respectful of elders will. Yeah, you know, 'cause I can make something on my own pretty quickly with the technology that I have. But I mean just to come up with the graphic back. Then no way. Yeah. It's very difficult. Daniel I appreciate you coming out. Now man, thanks for having me. It's always good to have you out here. It's almost like a. It's an opportunity for me just of the at the week that was you just find a way to push my buttons in. I start going a lot of commentary. It's it's therapeutic. Yeah. I'm glad thanks for coming out. I'm glad that helps I'm gonna go get that that bird scooter cross a street. Yeah. Put it in your truck. I'm gonna take it home. And maybe it'll be on my Saad walk in the morning, and we'll go play with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me and the kiddos, you know, a decent side hustle is charging those things if you got a truck on the storage to sign up to be charger might I can go pick that thing up, and they aren't gonna like track it and make it detonate or anything right now. I can just throw it in the back of Trump. Oh, yeah. Fisher in take it back to my house. Yeah. That's the thing. I don't know how much they're policing are keeping track of this those lime scooters. So I just go. Download lie map. Yeah. In tach credit card. Charges like, I think a dollar per mile or something like that. Yeah. We're gonna go have a big, Tom. Yeah. Hey, big time next week. We're going to have but Kennedy back on the program. And it'd be talking about this two point five percent cap. We're gonna have our friend met dough trae Ross Ramsey tried to get Brandon Darby in here. He's been so busy at the border. Trying to get Darby in. Here's will some Eric greeter great guests in pre sheets, you if you have any things that you'd like us cover on the program, bowel means Simeon Email, but don't send me ten emails. J A Y at other side at Texas dot com, or you can just tweet at me at J A Y L E ESO win. You find us on Facebook other side at Texas at OAS TA show on Twitter, we have an Instagram. We might start that we have Instagram. I'm I'm not using it as much because. Okay. What is it though? I think it's at the other side, Texas, Otherside, Texas other side of Texas for Daniel the digital millennium guru on the therapeutic Friday as just what we're in start calling therapeutic Friday, which will wishy well this weekend. Thank you for listening. A lot of people. Listen on the weekends, right? Yes. Sunday's our biggest day pre she tune in. We'll see next time right here on the other side of Texas, raven buddies rave on.
Lt. Gov Dan Patrick Picks Up Mainstream Conservative Issues + AJ's Matt Dotray on Tech Men's Basketball Success
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I'm in my red raider hoodie in my insead AA division. One men's champ basketball championship two thousand nineteen at cross the back. It says toll sa- Oklahoma. And that's some context for how we're entering this program. We went we saw and we conquered broadcasting here from the studios that made buddy Holly famous you and be part of the program. You can do that eight. Oh, six sim four five fifty eight hundred. That's the text line eight oh, six four five fifty eight hundred as we roll along. We're going to have Lauren Magoo. Aw. He of the Dallas Morning News on we're talk a little bit about whether or not the Lieutenant governor has strayed from conservative principles, quote, unquote, conservative principles get in with Lauren here in about ten minutes from now, then our friend met though, Trey could not be live in studio. So he's Colin live from the roads back from the first and second rounds a March mad this met dough tree covering Texas. Tex second consecutive Sweet Sixteen. Right here coming up about what about thirty minutes from now we'll hear from. Doe. Trae a headed out from Lubbock on Thursday jumped on the flight got back last night about ten o'clock. And this is what we do know. About just some general some general. Impressions about the flight trip road trip up to Tulsa, I lived in Tulsa for a lot of years. I'm really surprised about their downtown. I think it would make a lot of people who are looking at Lubbock stone town salivate to see with what Tolstoy has done in their downtown. That's number one. But a lot of that has to do with a little town up north bartlesville where there's a lot of oil money not saying that great things can happen in downtown Lubbock, but certainly gonna take some investment. The Bank of Oklahoma center. The be okay center is where the game was played. And that's where we went song conquered. But let me say this. This is a state of the art facility. And the facility itself was wanting. And I'll tell you why because the men's facilities at least on the first floor as you walked up and up to the concourse five stalls Bob stalls and five stalls only. And that pose the problem in the problem was like a fifty deep line. A you know, you get a Jones stadium in Joan stadium being as old as it is. You have what three times as many stalls? You may be in the line for a little while. But man, the B O K center. State of the art facility, and you're back fifty people before you get to a stall, it's a real I can tell you this first hand experience as a real beer, deterrent. That's like some sub prohibition activity right there that you don't want to have your bladder fool because you will be in line for a very long time. Like really during halftime. You would be in line for half of the half at least half the half in order to access the restrooms. These are first world problems. I know the other thing I learned in this is for the common man, always looking out for the common man here. I on Sunday going into they called the the first two games on Thursday. The first session the second. The third and fourth games were the second session. And then on Sunday, he had two games Houston, and who played there was Houston and Ohio State. Had to do some background work because not involved with enough NCWA tournaments trying to figure out what's the play here. Do you go on in to stubhub? Like I did. And the way it works. Is you find some tickets, it's usually about three hundred dollars per session. And then they'll put in another like hundred dollar fee on top of it for tickets. But why are all these people outside the stadium? Selling tickets learned real quickly. You went really good tickets NCW tournament. And I am not a shark nor do I play one on the radio. It's just for posterity sake going forward. I would put a five dollar Bill in a guy's hand and say, okay, you tell me I don't want to buy tickets. But if I wanted to buy the tickets that you had right now, which were pretty good tickets fairly close to the floor in good set in good sections. What what's it cost me? And they would say about sixty eighty dollars a ticket. And that's for the entire session. That's for the two games there. So just some word to the wise is Texas Tech. And presuming we don't lose crispier going forward. You wanna show up and not buy your tickets beforehand? He probably get some some ample tickets out. And that's if they aren't fake, I know I've got a lot of things lot of lot of plates spin in here. But for. For legitimate tickets sixty eighty bucks for two games and probably see the tournament on one seat for about one hundred eighty twenty one hundred fifty one hundred eighty dollars. And that's when I learned, but my big gripe, the big gripe the worst the weekend, the restroom lines at the be, okay. That's not. Okay. Be okay in something needs to be done about that. Maybe guys can go in and demo in start over again. But those lines are way too long. Couldn't imagine being at a concert coming in with full bladder and missing like the first quarter of the concert because I'm in one to the restroom. Or mcgaughey coming up. My man do trade following as he's on the road back to Lubbock from until, sir. Oklahoma. Appreciate you tuning in to this edition of the other side of ticks, take a quick break. Be right back with you here on the programs. Used saying with? Sound Hailstone city. Thank you. Lor McGaw he state capitol reporter for the Dallas Morning News about to chime in with us here on the program. Here's the first part of the story. The more things change the more things. Don't stay the same. That was moan- subtitle to her piece. Dateline Austin Lieutenant governor Dan Patrick prides himself on being thought of as one of the most conservative leaders in Texas. He certainly earned that title. Patrick is champion school vouchers. He's proposed cutting college financial aid enduring the last legislative session. He led the push for a bathroom Bill. Now. I might be a simple boy from hill county. But I don't recall those being major conservative issues to go against public schools, and to cut financial aid might just be me. But that's not what I would typifies conservative. But now some of his allies are criticizing him for being too moderate. She is Larne mcgaughey with Dallas Morning. News, lauren. How are you? You go. Glenn heavy on the program. Again, it's been travelmate been way too long. Sure, you're just gonna have to call me where often then just text him more often on Sunday morning Tate, Lauren. What are you doing tomorrow? So we just queued up your lead there in your piece in Dallas Morning News. The some of Dan Patrick's allies are not criticizing him for being too moderate. What day have we reached in which Dan Patrick at any point is being called to moderate, Lauren? Well, I found the criticism really interesting, which is why I wrote about it. Because because it it did seem rather surprising. Right. I mean, Dan, Patrick has has I think earned the reputation as being, you know, one of the most conservative far-right leaders in Texas, but you know, some of his dodges supporters aren't happy with the priorities. He's chosen this year. They say, you know, the some of the red meat issues of the past aren't on his list, and they're not happy about it. Julie McCarthy from the northeastern tearing keep the tea party, excuse me, says this in your piece, the Lieutenant governor's list of priorities is not quite what we've come to expect from Dan, Patrick, and yes, we are disappointed to see him moving to the middle of the road housing moving to the middle of the road. Lauren. Well, they're criticism. Both Julie McCarthy and empower Texans shoes. President Michael Quinn Sullivan Roach, another piece critical of of the priorities of damn Patrick. Both of them say that there are some big ticket items that are missing from Lieutenant governor's list of priorities this year. We're talking things like capping tuition at Texas colleges and universities talking about the bathroom Bill. We're talking about you know, these these highly divisive issues even more mainstream conservative proposals like franchise tax proposals. None of those are on his his list this year, and they had at that. It would tell you ranchos tax proposals. Be just for context here. I mean, like the the Bill we're talking about tax relief this year right at such a major part of the conversation. And yet everyone seems to be on the same page about these revenue cat bills. But in the past Patrick has proposed bills that would eliminate different kinds of taxes completely. And this year. We're not seeing that we're seeing him, you know, on the same page with governor, Greg Abbott and Speaker Dennis bond and so far on these tax proposals. And so, you know, they're saying we'd like to see him go a little bit further. We'd like to see him bring back some of these more controversial or sometimes divisive conservative bills that he's brought in the past Patrick totally pushes against this. And you know, as has been really lauding this combined moments in the legislature. But you know, we'll have to see whether this criticism bears out when when his campaign coffers or opened up again after the session and see if you know, the these groups actually put their money where their mouth is. I guess you could say more mcgaughey the Dallas. Morning news making time for us here. The list of priorities is not quite what they've come to expect from Dan, Patrick are there other things out there that they wanted Patrick to come with that he's not come with? I think it's more a criticism of what is currently on the priority list. There hasn't been a lot. I haven't seen a lot of proposals for we wish he had this on on his priority list. Thirty three listeners. Let me just Jackie. Usually does you know, it was really featured in the eighty fifth legislature. These are my thirty priority items, but he didn't necessarily do that this time around not at least in big public press releases. Right Larne, right. I mean, he does have thirty priorities, and he put a press release out this year with his thirty priorities. But the only one that we've really heard him talking at length about is his five thousand dollar teacher pay raise proposal, and this is one of the the bills that has been criticized by some conservative groups like the Texas public policy foundation. They won't outwardly reject the Lieutenant governor's Bill, but in the past they have called across the board teacher pay raises wasteful a wasteful use of tax payer money. And now. They Lieutenant governor who is a favourite of TPS is is proposing such legislation, and it's really the only rather than tax relief in school finance. It's the only priority of Patrick's that he's really heartily pushing the other twenty seven priorities, you know, they came out in a press release like you said, but we haven't we haven't heard a ton about them outside of you know, the debate that's going on in the legislature. This kumbaya moment. I mean, I'm in a some listeners are going to get frustrated with me kinda like special interest in think tanks could intra get bothered by Patrick, but it seems like Patrick I think a lot of people would agree that he shifted the debate. Now that you know in the eighty fifth in previous, you know, back in two thousand seventeen he went after really conservative stuff, but he shift. It'd the ground snow where people are having to deal with him in. So maybe still don't in. This is just my hypothetical. You follow this everyday, Lauren. But maybe doesn't have to go after the red meat that he wants went after because now they're dealing with him on his terms. You think that that's a fair way to describe it? He's definitely shifted the debate on school finance there that is you know, one of the biggest priorities of everyone in Austin this year. And but no one was talking about across the board pay raises for teachers before Patrick made it a priority. So he's definitely in that sense shifted that very important debate towards him towards one of his priorities. And there are concerns that some of these long fought issues, you know, a year spent drafting a proposal for school finance might be derailed or overshadowed by his his across the board pay raise because teachers want it they like it. It sounds great to them. Right. So he definitely is you know, in some way dominating that part of the conversation. It's also interesting to note that just today or yesterday, rather he he kind of tease the possibility. Of a special session or multiple special sessions, if they don't pass what he called substantial property tax relief. And we just published a story just a matter of minutes ago for the governor, and the speaker pushing back on that and saying we don't we we shouldn't be talking about special testing. We don't need to be working overtime on these issues. We can get this done and the regular order of business. So we're already seeing him, you know, kind of again thing if if we don't get to these priorities. I'm you know, I'm going to be calling for this month in advance, which is something he did in twenty seventeen when he he said, I'm going to be okay. With threatening to force a special session if the bathroom Bill and property tax relief did don't pass. So it's very familiar kind of playbook that we're seeing amused now. Laura mcgaughey dose morning news, Kathy reporter with us here on the program. I wanna go to it is. Fascinating. I'm so glad that you wrote the piece it was very timely before the legislature for the house takes up the budget before you get into the school finance debate. It'll come up next week in the house. It is fascinating to me that it seems to me very coolly of Lieutenant governor that let's put money in the pockets of personnel. The teachers rather than in let me just for lack of better words, say bureaucracy. Let's not put it into Texas education. Let's put it into their employees pockets. That's essentially the stand that Patrick's made on improving public education. Right. Is that he said let's get into the teachers not to the independent school districts. Yes. That that is his dance and that would be quote, unquote, conservative, right? What I I mean, if you ask a certain groups, they would say that that is more conservative than handing it over to it than it straighter for sure we are seeing the a rift on that issue between him between Patrick and leaders in the house who are saying they would prefer to give it to the school districts, and let them decide what to do with that money. So that's definitely a riff that's growing. What's interesting about Patrick's? Call for putting directly and teachers and teachers pockets Z said is that while you know, that might look more conservative to some people to do with that way. The, you know, the TPS of the world or saying this this idea of giving everybody a pay raise is not a conservative idea that, you know, teachers and educators should be paid paid based on merit based on who's doing a good job. And so it's interesting the the kind of. Split there on the issue that we're saying from from some of these policy makes interesting though, Lauren is that you've covered this in you seen this upheaval. Democrats have a real edge to the extent that they cannot show for committee hearing today in the house, and I don't want to go off in the weeds, but not show up. So therefore, there's not a Corum on a committee. That's the the cloud that Democrats have gained. So that Patrick can go back, and I'm just gonna use that one example to extrapolate in say, you know, what you can talk about what's conservative all day long. My position is talk about what's more conservative. And what's more conservative is putting this and teachers pockets than putting it in administrative budgets. Well, and he also uses the example of the CPS case workers from last year. He's says, you know, we give pay raises to the CPS caseworker who have a ton of work to do and there's turnover, and we didn't ask them who was better caseworker. We just gave him a pay raise. And it's high time that we give Texas teachers a pay raise. And look that's a very popular idea. It it's there hasn't been a pay raise from the state for teachers in a number of years and teachers have betted heads with Patrick over in the past over vouchers. You know, parochial, parochial and private school funding charter schools, and now they see their former opponents offering them a four billion dollar Boone. And they're saying, hey, we'll we'll take it where we can get it. Lawrence. I was just riffing before you came on that there in your second paragraph that a conservative leader in Texas is he is certainly Dan Patrick is certainly earned the title as conservative leader in Texas. He's championed school vouchers. He's proposed cutting college financial aid and during the last legislative session. He led the push for a bathroom Bill in this part of the world, Lauren. It wasn't called bathroom Bill. It was called a shower. Bill. You don't want juniors going into shout junior boys going into showers athletic showers with your seventh grade girls in in you can call it a scare tactic in college. It was a tactic. Nonetheless. Oh, but out in this part of the country were Dan Patrick ran commercials relentlessly against might call your as did other statewide elected to barely won by six percent. That's called conservative is Dan Patrick now. The arbiter of what's called conservative in Texas is he looked at as the denominator between what's conservative and what's liberal in? What's right? And what's left? Oh, I don't know if I can answer that question. It's a good one though. I mean, I think that's a conversation for the Republican party Republican circles, the, you know, we we are putting people on a spectrum, right? This year of who's liberal or now with who's liberal and who's conservative, but these conversations when you go into the the the conferences, Texas GOP, you know, annual semi annual conference that they do these are some of the most far right members. And then when we talk about primary voters, these are some of the most far, right? So I think the definition of conservative is really up to Republicans and up to those inner circles to have this conversations. But I hope they're having them because it's a really interesting question and one that is becoming increasingly murky murkier as we see these divides. You know, it's we used to say that there were three parties in Texas when the Democrats were in power power. Because Democrats would split between the two of them. Right. And now we have splits within the Republican party. So there's the Republicans the Republicans, and the Democrats, and I think that there's always gonna be disagreement over what a true liberal is. What a true true conservatives. But that's not that. I don't think that's neat for me to answer that court will become raise the question to ask you this Lauren in this part of Texas, and I saw even the Lubbock county Republican party the other day put up a post on their Facebook run a nail public education, which in this part of the state. You know, it's I don't want to bore you with stuff that you might have already heard me say, but it's a constellation of rural independent school districts in the life, but lifeblood communities is their public education system, and we're going to run the on public education. Like, I don't think that's what conservatives in this part of the. State think about whenever they think about liberal and conservative. So I don't know how well it plays for the Luton. Or maybe the Lieutenant governor knows more than I think he knows in that I'm going to give teachers a pay raise I'm gonna give you know this teacher in spring lake earth five thousand dollars, which would be you know. I would venture to say a seventh more than they made last year. Maybe maybe he knows more than teepee PF. Maybe he knows more than Julie McCarthy, maybe he knows more than Michael Quinn Sullivan. Well, let me ask you who. Do you think the arbiter of the term conservative should be? Is that up to the top leaders that the governor's job is that some think tank who should answer that question. Well, I mean, Ma I three options are all out of the Houston. So I don't know. I I would think that Bonnin of all the speaker of the house would be able to delineate what's liberal in conserved? Because he deals with a large group of of people with the term GOP side to them. Yeah. I think that he's more on the ground. And that's what's so fascinating about the house ride is that you're more connected in with your superintendents with your local communities in, you know, the aforementioned issue of Democrats, not showing up to create a Corum in Texas house committee that for me is more of a of a signal on what's liberal, and what's conservative. Well, an end to put that into context even further there was one Republican who was not there. And once he got there, they did have a quorum. So they didn't tech like technically need the democrat. Yeah. I think it was. I think it was. Yeah. You're right. I'm sorry. You're interesting. You bring up an interesting point. Oh. Right. A small margin. So that we mentioned it. I'm sorry. Let me interject hate. Listen to radio and have the hosts interjecting, but going talk for now that we've talked about what's idealistic, ideologically conservative and liberal in Texas a saga about the con- give give listeners a thirty second on what the context is of what were mentioning here. What do you mean by by the type of committee meeting the quorum what was up for vice? So there was a house committee today that was the coast debate this Bill called the Texas born alive infant Protection Act. It's a Bill that would penalize doctors who don't do everything in their power to try to save the life of an infant who survived an abortion. This is very rare that had happens, but they want to to put some penalties on doctors. You don't we don't do that. And they needed all of their Republicans to have a quorum. So they needed a certain number bodies in the room to even hold the meeting. And there was hail up in North Texas and problems with flights and all kinds of problems and issues, and so they didn't have enough people to start because they were missing one of their Republicans. But it became more of a political show showing because number of Democrats for women said that they were not going to take part in the debates because they thought that it was an attempt to. To restrict abortion access for women restrict restrict their choice of having an abortion. And so it while it was kind of a logistical problem to start with it became a showing democrat in specifically democrat women to say, you know, we're not even gonna take part in a debate that we think is, you know, unethical or or just, you know, flat out wrong. So that's what they did was. It was a really interesting thing because you know, we've seen this in the past when Democrats had more clout and in the Texas house, and now they have a little bit more this year, and we're seeing them flex their muscles a little bit the Lauren, what me leave you with this. This is my always my definition of conservative in. This is just where this little rural outpost on the cap rock. So just for for context, but conservative the derivative is to conserve him. What conserves a place in? So whenever I see some of these actions being called conservative. I think well, we can't have a place. If is too nebulous resent make sense that if we're going to. If we're gonna call public education like the spawn of the devil. Well, there are a lot of places out here that wouldn't exist without it does that make sense. And and you know, I'm always interested in having these conversations because Texas is such a big state. That different words do mean different things that depending on where you are we've seen that with the stances that thunder Kellegher has taken over the past several years and his disagreements with the Lieutenant governor over issues like education. So it's one of the reasons why Texas is so fascinating because especially huge place that you know, he never know. What might what might come up? And what answer you might get you go, and that's why I want one of those give them kill shirts, Laura McCullough. Appreciate you making time. You can always read Larma gall. He's coverage. You can follow her. It's L mcgaughey on Twitter. Right. Yes. That's right. And the followers stuff there at the Dallas Morning News, pre she to making Tom Lauren. Thanks again. All right, Laura. Mcgaughey Dallas Morning News. News in with that. We're gonna get you into a break catch up with our friend. Matt dough trae on the road covering some marching madness, all these episodes. You can find anywhere. 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He is our friend met dough trae win m I going to sell you a house dough trae number longtime, not the pays ongoing, but Jay. Okay. So where are you? Now. What Moammar we hail center. All right. We're making progress. We're close you're getting there your impressions of the weekend there as you covered March madness met Dodi, Eric good. It was neat. It was a neat experience. Did you see me on Sunday right press rows? It was pretty cool, man. You got sit press row pretty neat. But one of the guys has the dumbfounded face while they're reviewing the calls. Exactly. No, good, ticker business. It looks like we won what both games by an average of like seventeen points. So. Yeah. Took care of business. And in minutely, you're like one of the biggest tech homers ole time. Yeah. What? Yeah. I was writing Gabri cats or anything our event is. Yeah. That would have been too much for me. But you know, I was there. Yeah. Kinda writing about I guess the tech experience. And as you saw a bunch of fans. I mean, it was it was rowdy, especially with the Reiter power tan that. Yeah. Budget especially on Sundays. I'm a bunch of people must go just for that one game. I think they did. It seem like there were twice as many tech fans on Sunday as there were on Thurs. See, right, right. All right. So the red kind of throws you off too because. I mean, there was a bunch of Houston fans or there was a good interested. So it was just a good Texas crowd day. Wouldn't get all Houston though. I mean, whenever you looked up in you were listening to the raider power chance there on I don't know. Let me think about my directions for just a moment. I don't know my directions. Well, enough, I don't know which side is they were packed into the tech sections like the tech band extended up to four on both sides. And yeah, they were all out Reiter power. Did you see my crappy seats? I did. And then I was looking for you. And I couldn't find you. So you were stuck behind the ban wages. That's newbie. That's a new stake J that. Yeah. It was not. It was not the best decision. I'll give you that. But you snuck into better seats on Friday. But then where you back in the not-so-good seats on Sunday. And there wasn't a band is. So behind the goal on both sides of the goal. They have a ban. And so our seats on Sunday didn't have abandoned front of us on Friday. They did. So we snuck over to the other side of the goal. And then the Gestapo came in and said, those aren't your tickets you need to go back to where you were. So we had to sit behind the opposing van there from northern Kentucky, which you know. I the problem with at the time. But man that northern Kentucky was really cool to watch them. Never could they have dreamed dreamt that they were going to be in that position in there. So you you can't overlook having a two been your way to. How cool inexperienced this must be for these kids. You know over Ryan were years in their college experience here, they are they're in the big dance. And the God put his tuba down every once in a while. Yeah. Why not agree with you about the order, folks? And even like the coach the players. So you know, I was down with like the media Sturm ish with all like, good, news, conferences, and all that stuff. Where were you on Friday where you doing like in the cameraman? It was getting Jim Thome over by covert. No, no, no. I was on Friday, no way. If you if you the row of like lack tables up in the upper deck. No. There was like a there was also like a media area dot so Friday, I was up top. But I was working on a couple of stories though, it was it was kinda nice 'cause I was working then the arena by author wings, are you worried? So on Sunday, you've got prime seats in your having the right at the same time that you're watching the game. Yeah. I mean, that's what I was supposed to be doing. But on Sunday, I basically took the day off. It's just that. Yeah. But now the northern Kentucky team players coaches in cool very complimentary. The bubble players seemed overconfident on the day before. So I guess that was Saturday. They seem to be overconfident and then on and then during the post game press conferences, they weren't too complimentary. So tech being buffalo, you know? 'cause y'all feel bad for the kids. I didn't feel as that about if that makes any sense. Eat until bad forum. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, she didn't met dough. Trae Lubbock avalanche, Cheryl. He driving with right now. So driving is Brad tollackson Matongo. Yes. The video photo mogul and then in the backseats Carlos basketball sports currently Silva, you're sir. Yeah. Yeah. What was your favorite part of the tournament? Let's just turn the sing on speakerphone. What was your favorite? I think it was just the food if everybody determine I think it was just to do the bathrooms were a travesty. Can you buy up on this? They were. Yes. Absolutely. That's that you mentioned that it was not good. So you couldn't go at halftime. Because everyone was going at halftime. So you had to plan out kind of like you check football games. You had to kind of plan out your bathroom breaks like three minutes before. Halftime just so you can get it over with really sad. And then miss parts of the game. Yeah. Everybody. Yeah. But other than that. I mean, the re the arena, I thought was pretty neat Kholsa, whoever I told it was eight it was just. Yeah. It was a good time. You know? We're Jill stay at the embassy. No, we were at they had like a media hotel. It was it was like the Ayla. I think it was it was in walking distance through the arena. So it all worked out perfect. It was really neat. But you had to scramble to the infancy to get your shots with Tolson. Yeah. Yeah. We wrote a I guess seven thirty that morning. We were told in there. No casinos for you, buddy. Now, we were told that the send off was going to be at nine thirty or something. And then it got to ten fifty hours personnel. 'cause I didn't know if I was going to get a spy at the media table. 'cause that was I. Thumper serve. So that warning was bad. But it all worked out. It was all good got got to interview some players which was need. You know, tech players. There's they're really nice. So like the whole they just opened up the Walker room, which is hard to believe after game. So, you know, it's pretty easy. Then whenever you're winning. I know exactly. So the feature the feature pieces that you wrote were you had the story about the bond manager, which is. Yeah, calling Colin, and then you wrote one on hand his lucky jacket anchor groggy, Jack up to that which I on your show last week. Yeah. And then wrote about John the bus driver. And then I wrote one sport story, which was about Bruni as Owen about like the graduates, you know, the. Fifth year. Greg transfers, I sure yeah. Just about their first tournament theory. Yeah. Man, they played so cool to they acted like they done this a lot of times. I was really surprised that neither had been in that atmosphere before. Right. Yeah. Handle it very well. Especially young players, corporal. You know, I n t h undermanned Edwards first time. So yeah. Pretty cool kid and then yesterday's game without much just because like, you know, no Saudi is as fan favorites. So it was cool to see him get game. Now. I mean, he was almost double double halfway through the first half. Yeah. For sure. Someone had to that. I think it was a reporter for. Yeah. Tosa world that was going the second double double his career. The first one was his first start or something like that. So he came full circle. You can't let the toll PSA world scoop E ON then that's good stat that by none. So here's the big question. You going out to Anaheim. No, no back to back to the day job tomorrow. I'm just send you Anaheim wonder weekend a done that you got the corporate meetings in the morning. There's always a chance. Now, I know Brad in Carlos there on the decks flight tomorrow morning. They're already God. But no, Trey no Dotras behind so lose if you lose. I think we know why. Man. I'm i'm. Let's put the publisher on three way you want to know that idea. That's a terrible idea. That idea I mean, no enemy to Anaheim. But. It is what it is. I need my met though. Trae features from Anaheim. That's what I need. I appreciate you saying that I. We can put together like go fund me account for you. Go to DisneyWorld and everything gives them land. I I think that money came to think much better spent. No. We don't train the Anaheim numb in the tweet right now that at all. That's really, yeah. Yeah. Cats. Oh, come on. Who cares city right now? You're pretty council is what needs to suck trendy. Did he get from city council coverage? I'm actually have I have studio support in here right now in of written a mob ped-, call grant. Now, obviously, I got city council drive a lot. Okay. Your favorite piece that you wrote this weekend was the Collin Baxter. I don't know. If you've read I think people need to read it. I mean. Yeah. Mccullough's just he's an overall. Good kid. I what he means to him. I don't think if you understated, you know, he's around the team. He's fine. The fire. Yeah. So tragic story he lost his eyesight when he was twenty and you know, in if he was going to go back to school coach beer kind of took him under his wing. He's now a volunteer team manager since with the radio dies during basketball games to the game. And yeah, just an all around inspiration. And and I'm sure people go to games have seen before you know, he's with his dog chase. And then you know, when they came back to other after. They won the big twelve tournament. He was the first one to cut down the net. So yeah, good kids when the site that would be. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and when she pass along to Carlos and to Brad, they done good work here. Very good. I will do that to my order your. But you you really give the best work. I mean, let's not lie. Okay. Well, you in misery said are you on the next five? Anaheim a no, no, I'm tapped out at this point. Where gay the kids are not going to Disneyland in. There will not be Anaheim. Okay. We got budget priorities at the Leeson. Ponder Rosa so fair understood who love and flew back on for the wound up to be the Sweet Sixteen. But what do you think about Michigan now go still Carlos thunder here? What do you think about tech and Michigan? Well, I don't know anything about Michigan to be honest. I've heard they're near there are mirror opponent. They do exactly what we do. Okay. Which is just gonna crush on lame. Yeah. And you know, they've got a star. But they don't need the star. They can go to other guys to that kid from Germany who will how far they last year where they into final bus year. No, I can't answer anything further than that. Just said put Carlos on speakerphone. I don't know. I don't know about Michigan at all. I don't think we do either. It's still. We're still in drive back mode. All right, me almost home. Now. You gotta beat Abernethy by now. Yeah. Yeah. Your home curve. I I don't think we passed to get around there. So, but I don't know, you know, I was I stuck around. I watched that Ohio State game afterwards, a high you saying, I do I take the best team in full. So I don't know I feel like we're going to be. We're gonna do. All right data. Hi, you know, political question for you. Ted comes took Houston. Go further than Texas Tech. Your thoughts. We all the final. So I guess to that. Don't have the tweet where I guess. Ted Cruz forgot where his base was already. Oh, hot take from DOE. Trae. You sent me out that was off ball. You know? So I think you know, he wasn't showing what Texas love. Doe trae. Appreciate you make Tom buddy. Thanks. He was accommodations though. Everybody treated you. Right. And they did they did. I just had to look like I belie-. Yeah. You do belong. But he stays that. Big. I I've read later fan around buddy, y'all take care of the last thirty minutes of the trip pre sheets you tune in. Healthy monday. All right, buddy. Thank I made by. Yeah. Man do tree and get in with a no. Oh, this the end of the show rechecked. Tune in wherever you can get the podcast you find us Facebook dot com. Other side of Texas and OS THE show on Twitter gonna get home Godley at home Greek family, above average dinner until next time rave on buddies ray-ban.
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Let's get into it. How are you? I'm good. How are you gonna have? Ross Ramsey call in here in about ten minutes from now in its mapra. Tune ity to he's mush rink. He's my Texas politics shrink just lay down on his couch. Ask them about what's going on. How this happened? How did that happen? What's going to happen? Ross Ramsey with all the questions and then after Ross Ramsey you, and I get into an along gated conversations on your political observations there. Yeah. It's been a while. Right. People people like the commercials my jingle. Yeah. They love it. Yeah. A message other day that said who did your jingle? Yeah. Bogart's bow Garza. So here's my thinking as we kick off the program. We need a new party in west, Texas. I am I am. So certain of that now, I get emails a lot about an old column. I wrote called the politics of place people who see their place and then their politics through it. And don't take up a nationalized idea. This. I think is dangerous dot by gets okay. To feel this way or that way about a congresswoman from New York or from California on in wig out about that. But whenever you start trying to find those people behind every Bush y'know every nook and cranny where you live in try to make let's say the mayor councilman or a Commissioner into those people now we're on a dangerous slope. Yeah. And I think we saw that a lot through the Obama administration Obama's behind every Bush in Lubbock in p. People just need your in that. And I think that it's dangerous reaction I so much. So that this week in avalanche journal. I'm going avalanche journal Amarillo globe. News. I'm gonna put up a piece that's an old piece of updated a politics place in it's gonna run in both of those markets in all the rural entities throughout and. This is how I start that old piece is a place carries in just think whether it be the rent what's the name of the ranch dot drop time drawl in my ranch. Yeah. Near post you've learned how it works. That's right. A animals of learn how it works in. Whether it be a rancher at the region. A place carries a continuity and knowledge in passes it from generation to generation how the place works. What makes it turn? When there's disruption in this continuity, learning transpires, by costly lessons of what the place will and will not tolerate such learning risk decline, perhaps demise in. That's how I start the peace and. So far as west Texan sit round than talking whenever. Whenever everything's driven from the state level in little whenever we're handing over on the state level, for instance, where were handing over bags of grain Pro Bowl of porridge that's not conservative because you aren't conserving an ear giving everything way. And that's when I think we see on the Republican side on the democratic side. I think there's a part in there where I say the Democratic Party has lost side of the middle class and his taken up umbrage in hyper focus on. Windy, Davis's, pink, jogging shoe, pink abortion, jogging shoes, the green new deal, and cultural liberalism, and those are the light. When was the last time? Let me ask you. This dot was last time. You went to a Lubbock county Republican party of Vince never. And I think a lot of people would sit on none. I I mean back in the past. I used to be actively involved and wanting to be actively involved in the Republican party. But. But it's not that. They just don't follow the same mindset and thoughts that you. And I share. And I think a lot of people, and that's why like at their annual within there's like seventy five people. Yeah. And there's no one finger to point there, though, I've got a couple of names in mind. But it's just what these political parties on the county levels have dwindled into is a national Lynn's on what's going on locally and people just don't jive with it. So guess what you got one Saturday a year in which you're gonna have your big annual event. And there's a reason why seventy five people show up on both sides. Right. Even though buying large the Republican party should have. I mean justed for the amount of people that vote Republican should should have several hundreds or thousands of people are actively involved in their local committee loss touch because they don't in. This is the point that I make is that did, you know of our top employers in Lubbock. Hold on. I'll pull this up. The majority are. Our government entities. In of that majority. I think some eighty two percent our government jobs now government, I say government. I mean, you MC I mean, Texas had. And the UC physicians network, but in that's not egg. By the way, that's non egg numbers that some seven or eight out of the top ten, and if you can't in this is my thing jas if let's say in another universe. Beddoe Aurore came into Lubbock and said you guys do a fantastic job with government. You've harnessed government. You make it work for you. People would say how so in all you have to answer three easy questions about how. So and we in Lubbock make government worked for us. There's no doubt about it in all these non like you started up eighty auto. How many nurses, how many teachers how many how many government employees have you had in call nurses? I don't mean to call nurses, government employees in. I think certainly every teacher goes to work everyday like every other professional, but how much of their paycheck is made up by Medicaid and Medicare in other government entities. Right. And I'm not meaning to put anybody's knows. I'm not I I don't mean to put anybody's nose in cal-, Patty. That's not the point. Because a lot of us here. A lot of us that are in business know-how Lubbock works. What makes it turn the KANU the knowledge that just mentioned and government does make Lubbock Lubbock never has a recession. No, I'm in the real estate business. Now, you're gonna radio show. Win win. Does Lubbock Windass Lubbock have downturn? It doesn't have a downturn. You know, why because of agriculture because a medical because of? Education. And if you don't recognize those facts, then you're blind. And if you're on the right, and you're like, well, we shouldn't have any government will shut Lubbock down the Morrow. If you're on the left anyone say, let's have overreaching government. Then that's not what makes Lubbock work love, it makes government work for it. And that's what you're the other side, Texas where you came up with that idea, right? From the beginning is to represent that new political party per se. Well, west Texas, crat Reese caught that two years ago. Remember? The west Texaco or the weather status Krant. Yeah. Yeah. For sure, hey, we're going to get into quick break getting more in with Jason white coming up doc white here on the program with us cliff Wilkes chiming in the text line doc white in the house. He is in the house in. Listen gonna get Ross Ramsey in after this quickey break six right with on the others. He is my Texas legislature political shrink he is Ross Ramsey. Glad to have them on the show with us now. Ross Ramsey how you doing buddy? I'm great, sir. How are you? I'm glad to have you back on for another edition of the program. So are a lot of other people. Let's start with. Let's talk about the secretary of the state usually a non political entity kinda stays out of the spotlight. But God in spotlight, tell us how and what's happened here. You know, it's a semi political thing. It's a gubernatorial appointment, it's the state's chief elections officer. So they're in the middle of all the elections, and politics and everything they're generally, you know, sort of gently satellite of whichever governor they're serving and in this case David Whitley was appointed by Greg Abbott to run the office after Rolando Pablos left. He's only been in there since December seventeenth he hasn't been confirmed yet by the Texas Senate. So, you know, everything was kinda coasted along, and nobody was really paying much attention to this. Because it's a very rare thing for someone appointed to be secretary state to be in any kind of trouble. But then a couple of weeks ago the secretary of state's office. Put out a press release saying that they had with some information that they got from the department of public safety and some information on their own compiles a list of about ninety five thousand people who at one time or another had been identified or identified themselves as non citizens, and who were also at another time or maybe at the same time registered to vote about fifty five thousand of those had voted and the suggestion was that they had a bunch of noncitizens voting in Texas. It turns out that there's a whole lot of things wrong with that list, including that, you know, these people could be processed through time, you know, go to the deep ES get a state ID or driver's license identify themselves at that time as non-citizens subsequently become naturalized, get voter identification or voter registration. And then go vote just like you're supposed to do. So the list wasn't cleaned up before they announced this and also referred it to the attorney general's office for possible investigation sent the list broken down into you know, counties to the people in charge of voter lists in the states two hundred fifty four counties, and that's where you would get a check in a final list that said, you know, in fact, here we've got you know, this person this one shouldn't be on the list this when shouldn't be on the list. This win should be on the list. So it's a big giant mess. The Democrats jumped into this and said you're trying to do voter suppression. And tell people that the shouldn't be able to vote and scare people away some of the Republicans can tax the attorney general, for example, said this is an example possible voter fraud and problems on the election rolls, and it turned into a big partisan fight. But at the bottom of it is this list that. It is by you know, by most accounts of flawed list. It's not a completed project. They don't know really how many of these people if any of them were non-citizens who were registered to vote and or voted so so David witless confirmation hearing comes up in the middle of all of this and he walked into partisan fire and went before the Senate nominations committee last week endured a couple of hours a really tough questioning mostly from Democrats. But also from a couple of Republicans, and that committee was gonna vote him out and for full Senate confirmation on Valentine's Day and the chairman or the chairwoman. Don, Buckingham state Senator announced earlier this week that they were just going to pause this and not vote this week, but it would come up later. So an indication from outside that, you know, they don't have the votes yet. Well, don't have the votes she has on Whitley wanted Pablo sip down. You know, he didn't leave at a, you know, he didn't say anything peculiar at the time. And it wasn't really a remarkable piece of timing. I mean, you know, the, you know, secretaries of state sometimes last a couple years most of the time they don't last that long. They don't stick around that long. The election was over, and you know, that's pretty normal inflection point for a secretary of state to step down. So that wasn't particularly unusual. And nobody said anything at the time a lot of people now. And you know, now that we know what was going on with this list, and everything and that had been going on for a while a lot of people are wondering what you just asked. You know, did he leave? And did it have something to do to his leaving has something to do with all of this. We don't have any evidence of that. Ramsay. My political shrink is I lay down on his couch and get my Texas legislature mind right with us here of what did you make L pass over the other night on Monday night. It was pretty clear that. To me that this is my inference in you start with this in shoot me down a Fini. Tune though, you will this is better Rourke versus Donald Trump twenty twenty is that how you made it out to be why bit a wrote make the efforts that he did it. It's a little bit that way, you know. I I do sort of wonder, you know, if you're in the White House, and you're looking at this, and you say, you know, what if we go down, El Paso, and do this and you play that out, and you talk to your, you know, you just talk to your political stats say what will happen? The idea that someone local will do counter event is pretty normal. Every time the president does want his Maga rallies. You know? There's there's always the, you know, the democrat, the Democrats, and whatever locality he's in do some kind of counter rally, and if you were thinking about that from the standpoint of the White House and several who would do it down there Beto ROY is the natural answer. If you did it in San Antonio, you'd probably get a counter rally from. Holy on Castro. You know, so on. So I think in some ways that, you know, the president wanted to make a point about a border wall. The L Paso county Coliseum. You know has been there for years. I grew up mostly no Paso, and it's right on the border. It's the old cow palace where they had all the where they have all the rodeos and everything and it's right on the border. So if you're gonna stage event like this, and in particular, if you're going to do it after you've mentioned crime going down and El Paso after the wall was built during your state of the union address. This is sort of a natural thing. And it also, you know, gives Beto a chance to shine. Now, why the president would want a rock to shine or whether he even cared. I don't know. But it you know, it they couldn't have are. They had to expect the head to expect the counter rally and had to have a pretty good idea who was going to run it. He won the night. You know, I don't know that anybody won the night. I don't know if this is one of those events anybody's going to be talking about in a week or not, you know, these things kind of go by it. You know, you had a president making his point about the wall, and, you know, in advance of the negotiations or in sync with the negotiations that were going on between the house and the Senate over this Bill that you know, could shut down government. It looks you know, at this moment could change, but it looks at this moment like this settled all of that. But he had a you know, sort of a classic rally. He, you know, rallied his troops around the finish. The wall idea build the wall idea he continues to maintain although local officials in L Paso, you know, flatly deny it Republicans and Democrats alike that the wall that went up in Paso cut crime in Paso, the police stats don't bear that out. But that was you know, that was his pitch, and he went down and made it better work came up as you would expect in defensive. El Paso, much smaller. He had a bigger crowd and a smaller audience. If that makes sense, I think more people nationally were paying attention to the president than to Aurora. But at the, you know, the reporters that we had in L Paso on the scene said that, you know, there were more people at the Aurora rally than there were in the Coliseum by by some number. It wasn't. That's what they say. Okay. So go ahead. So I, you know, I like, I say, I don't know that this is the kind of event that you're gonna remember as a, you know, the day it all started, you know, Beto Roker, whoever the democratic nominee for president is going to be has to run a gauntlet, and it's starting to look a little bit like what the Republicans didn't twenty sixteen and they're going to have a dozen or more candidates. And you know, I would I would be really hesitant to handicap how that race would go much less say Beto rox going to be the nominee. Been a Rourke will run as centrist. Or do. You think he'll run left of center? I'm not convinced. He's going to run for president. You know? I think there's still a chance that he runs for Senator does something else. And you know, if looking Cornyn, right? If you're looking at the field of candidates for president, you know, that's a big field has got a lot of big names in it. And you know, if you look at your odds, you know, you might want to do something else. I don't know that he wants to be president, you know, at the end of the day. I don't know that you know, you gotta sit down and really have a conversation with yourself about that. And I'm convinced. He's he's undecided. I'm, you know, I'm not gonna say that that's the majority opinion. But you know, I don't think until he says he's running that he's running Ross Rainsy with us here at Ross Ramsey on Twitter Ross tells about property taxes, and I've been told that the wills are off SP two that the loot. Tenant governor may not even have sixteen boats to bring it to a floor. What what do you think about SP two in first of depreciate you describing in Ross Ramsey in terms. What s be too is? So this is the property tax, Bill forwarded by the governor, the Lieutenant governor, and the speaker of the house, it would require an automatic voter election. So voters could approve any property tax revenue increase greater than two and a half percent of your city or your county or your school district or any of the other entities. That charge sales are charged property taxes were to raise their revenue from property taxes. More than two and a half percent. There'd be an automatic election voters could say yes or no to it. The the local officials object to it because they say it would constrain them, and they wouldn't be able to deliver all of the services that they deliver. Now that could you know? Put them in a real bind that way, and they also say the state, you know, has gotten in the habit of sending them unfunded. Mandates chores to take care of that are expensive, and that the state doesn't pay for and, you know, at the, you know, their final argument, really or one of their arguments is, you know, the state outta mind its own business. These are elected officials they're responsive to their voters. The state oughta, you know, stay in its own lane. That's not really selling Willie. Well, at the capital two years ago, the house came in and said we ought to change the limit to six percent. The Senate came in and said it ought to be four percent. They couldn't negotiate five percent out of that for a lot of reasons. And then the governor came in and said what about two and a half percent. And that's where they're starting this time the Senate committee that looked at this. I passed it out. It's on it went over to the Senate. And there's a lot of resistance to two and a half percent. I think the idea of a revenue cap or revenue trigger whatever you wanna call. It probably has enough support in the. Senate. They're just at this point. They're just looking for a number to see what would work, and you know, it's early in the session. We're only twenty five percent of the way through the session. And you know, I don't think you can call anything completely messed up. You can just say, you know, the negotiations have begun. We have first contact. Creek that back during the Carter administration that the rates were at closer to four percent than they are eight percent now. I don't know the answer to that. I know that they change them to eight in the face of you know, it was part of a big big property tax reform that the state undertook and at the same time. That's when the state got rid of its own property tax, and they had this built in protection. So that if those revenues go up more than eight percent, then voters can sign petitions and demand an election. And if they get enough petitions, you know, the election is is a rollback election it happens. But it's pretty rare one of the arguments now is that eight percent is just too high. And and requiring those petitions is to burdensome, so it ought to be a smaller number, and it ought to be an automatic election. And those were kind of the two big provisions on the tax control side now eight percent, propose two point five. Look in your crystal ball. What do you think going to happen here? I don't know. I think something other than two point five they made a pretty good argument and committee for indexing this, you know, tying it in some way to inflation. So that you know that eight percent came from a time when eight percent was pretty much, you know, on the middle or low end of inflation people, you know, people my age can remember mortgages at fifteen percent or sixteen percent at the end of the Carter administration, but two and a court two and a half percent. You know, as we've said has a hard time getting enough votes in the Senate. You know, we don't know what the house is gonna do yet. But if you can't get it through the house and the Senate, you're going to have to raise that rate to something both sides can swallow, you know. Working on whether you got your documents opened on here to write about there's Monday Wednesday and Friday. Ross Ramsey writes in the now says peace there at Texas Tribune dot work. What are you working on? Working on taxes. There's a proposal in the works from state Representative from North Texas that would offer property tax cuts. You know, the Bill that's pending. Now doesn't have a cut in it. It basically says, you know, if they're successful with this their contention is that it won't cut your property taxes, but it'll make increases in the future. Smaller some members want some kind of cut and property taxes and to have any kind of pre Chaba will affect on your local property taxes on a statewide level. They've got a raise a ton of money. So they're proposing various existing state tax exemptions that they might get rid of. And maybe that money could be used to cut property taxes or to give people some actual property tax relief or on the front end of all these arguments about property taxes. But there's going to be a lot talk about before the legislature goes home around Memorial Day in favor. I have you. Whenever you write about. If you write about some of these guys, I've got knocked Jason white in studio who was a primary voter with me for Donald Trump. Whenever you run about some of these guys who now want Trump's border wall. Ross ramsey. Here's my one favor. I remember back whenever I voted for Donald Trump in that Republican primary was called liberal. I was called, you know, you're really would take crews. So you're not a real conservative. Now, the same people want to put forward billions of dollars for the border wall. Could you at least try to highlight that irony for us? You know, if I lied it and covering politics was highlight highlight ironies, that's all. I would do. That makes sense every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, Texas, Tribune dot org. I'm gonna get up off your couch now, my shrink my Ross Ramsey shrinked. In look at the new way techs politics for making time as you do each week here, buddy. We'll talk to you next Wednesday. All right, talk to you. Ross Ramsey executive editor of the Texas Tribune there with us y'all get at one place, you get it from right here on the other side of Texas going to not ask you for your thoughts right now. Jason white get him with you after the break and go to that break now quickey break be right back with you. Good candidate talk coming up for you right here on the other side and text. Made you sail. Sanjay for something still care about. Now, he gets his proper introduction. He is Dr Jason white famous in the Torius thinnest here in Lubbock, Texas. Glad. Thank you. To join us here on the program in bring in October white because I think people enjoy to listen to the conversation. That's tune sue for the next twenty minutes or so just had Ross Ramsey on any takeaway thoughts. Ross ramsey. The takeaway was from you the fact that you brought up when we voted for Trump in the primary. Yeah. And how do you remember the criticism? We got that. We weren't conservative enough. Yeah. We were people wanna put billions of dollars into his border wall. That's right. Same people who are like oh year liberal. Yeah. Like, mama. Hell things chain thing that cracks me up about the whole El Paso rally is that first of all he said, well, MS the cloud, more applause. No. But Beto Beato, Robert whatever you wanna call him right that he had more supporters at his rally, and I go back to the pictures. And if you look on Twitter and Facebook, I think President Trump definitely had better pictures or photography of the type of people that were out there. But the only pictures I saw the Beddoe rally were barriers and walls set up for security for his rally, some irony there, and I think that, you know, if we want to get into the wall issue, you know, sometimes I just want Trump when he was in office with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, and they're sitting there. I just want him say do you live behind a wall? You know, there's Sepulchre see there and they do live behind walls. They do live on security enduring the rally Trump's at I'm guilty. I live behind a wall. I live on the secret service. You know? And if you think about it, you know, I think that after two year what's it been two and a half years since we had our little show with oke Liffey. Right. And you know, we took a lot of heat for supporting Trump so early and but cliff was like a Rubio guy. Oh, yeah. That's always safeguard. I was with Rubio Rubio. Yeah. He he was planning to safeguard little Marco. But we see look how far we've come in those tuna fears right with all the the fact that Trump the day he got inaugurated into office. He was put into a corner Trump survivor, right and two and a half years later. He's sitting at fifty two percent approval rating, and that Pogos way back it's daily presidential tracking poll that is consistent. And if you look at it, it's very consistent with Obama, George W Bush, and the fact that he's had been hit so hard for. From all directions. The media the liberal left the collusion idea. The he's a racist. The building of the wall. The fact he's sitting fifty two percent means that something's going right in the middle of America. Not the far, right? Not the far left, but to you and half years ago. You would have never thought that the liberal left would be passing abortion bills or even talking about the type of abortion bills or passan? You would never think the green new deal would be an issue or even in conversation, look at New Mexico, and what's happening with them. So a lot of change since we've been with since we've had our show. Yeah main. I think it is surprising to a lot of people that if if there were ever a time in I started Showtime locally at there were ever a time for like Lubbock county. Democratic Party to begin to appeal to the middle. Now's the time in but you keep like we keep waiting for. Right. And I mean, you know after this. I think I'm done waiting. I don't think you do you do wait because when you have the type of voices that are out there. I mean, look at the New York congresswoman, I won't even say our name, you know, when she tweets something, she has fifty thousand plus lions, see AO, see, and she puts out this green new deal and the Hawaii Representative gets on national television the next day in his interviews. And they're like, you know, the tourism and air travel to your state your island is important. I never thought about that. But she still on the right track because of the emissions. Yeah. Base upon the air traffic, but they continue to fly their private jets and fly airplanes and go to all of their rallies. Beddoes rallying in El Paso. Oh, and they fly home to Hawaii. There's just such a hypocrisy amongst the party when it when it starts to fall far leftist as if it would if it fell far, right? You know in the Republican party, which Republicans have and I think we're Trump is winning in wise his approval ratings where it is is because after the elections November. I think he very much has a calmer tone considering what his tone has been the union was pretty cited. The union was good started the program by saying it's almost like your buddy who you've known your whole life. You've played ball with them you've race dome. You've done all sorts of things with them. And they sit down the grand piano based on the say the union the other night and sits down the grand piano in begins to play like he's Bach. And it's like, I didn't even know you could do that man. So he he does that. Right. And he did that during the. Out of the union. But yet the Democratic Party is like this crazy rave on the beach right now, and that's the comparison. And so I don't know. I think we have a president that understands that the border, and he's portraying it a lot better that the wall is a lot more than just a barrier. It's about the humanitarian crisis at Brennan Darby has been preaching for years south of the border south of border. Yes. But it's for years. It's been a humanitarian crisis and gaggy brand RV shutout Emmys, our friend and he starting to make moves himself. Yeah. Been talking about it. It's not just the problem is in again, I say south of the border. His big focus is always a hundred miles south border. Not just at the border or south. Lord alf. It's the problems that exist to the south. Hey, so you were featured in lots of national publications for being pro-trump. You helped a waitress a lots of people just go Google Jason white waitress in fund, why Trump supporter white tra- lack waitress. That's a media, portrays, it, whatever whatever come to fruition with it. Well, I still occasionally the good news is calm down. And after seeing what happened to what's happened to people that wear the red hat and how they're portrayed in the media today. It's amazing that two years ago, at least the media portrayed the interaction between myself a red hat wear. You know, make America great again hat walks into a restaurant this very progressive left and meets Rosalind who was a. Woman's March supporter and the media did a good job of getting our story out there. There's a lot of misleading things in there. Like, the great Brits. If you recall said, we were wearing cowboy hats because we were from west, Texas. I don't really own a cowboy hat, but you know, I still get emails. I had a gentleman call about three weeks ago to the office. It said that he just read this article about us he's from San Antonio just wanted to thank me. So, you know, during that time period, I received a lot of hate emails and a lot of threats, but also received a lot more kindness. Remember the threats, you know, white privilege row. Kill you all kinds of things I have all those emails, but it was nothing. Like what those kids went through. And what people are going through now. And and that's what it bothers me actually kids from the Catholic is yes. Yeah. Let's hang on Dr white, and let's get into another break. Get back in the US news observations. You wanna get into? We certainly wanna bring this a few fun things. Just a couple sick right here with us quickey break him with doc. White back up on your Wednesday, drive, home or your Wednesday episode here. You're listening right here on other side, Texas. Dr Jason white in studio with us the dock himself. Been so successful that he don't care elder say what he's thinking here on the program in the so doc, some new stuff that you looked through that you can't believe that you wanna get into start. I don't know utility. How is it? What do you think that with AO, see the congresswoman New York? What do you think Jodi Errington has to? I can't imagine busy prep. I can't imagine meeting knowing that you're going to go into room with the self proclaimed socialist, that's representing part of our country and the things that she throws out on Twitter and the way she conversations with news media. She contradict yourself. She doesn't even make sense ninety nine percents. And did you see our facial expressions during the state of the union? I mean, she was just mad about everything. But he got her up and clapping Oni at one time. Right. And I can't imagine Jodi Ellington who has by the way represented west Texas in a probably one of the I don't know. I'd consider him on the best representatives of of what we believe. He's classic. He's he believes in west, Texas. I think that when he's sitting in his chair, and he's in his committees. And. He's giving a talk on the floor of the house of representatives. He believes truly in his heart that he represents all west Texans, regardless of your political of you points. And the fact that I think about often could you imagine having to sit down across the table from someone like AO see who wants to get rid of Cal arts. I mean, that's true story getting rid of catalog together. Yeah. And yeah. Anywhere now today that was trending today. How the green new deal and and Brooks, Cory what's that guy into the New York Senator to ask me? Yeah. It's Corey the Senator from New York he tweeted today that maybe that's there's a good point to how much me Americans e Booker Booker. Yeah. I mean, he actually tweeted that. And so when you ask Ramsey about Beto would he run as a centrist? There's no it's not even worth him running right now because you can tell the, you know, the one thing that I did see where Joe Biden were to jump in and Beto became his VP running-mate routh the bat that may throw some kinks into the whole political election in twenty twenty. But I just don't think the Democratic Party is under the control of a centrist democrat. View agenda. You don't talk with some people today who and we'll bring this up again on Friday, some people who are in California over the course of this week in Hooghly on Castro came through and get this California. Democrats very unplaced with who the on Castro because he wouldn't take out the LGBT mantle that he wanted that. They wanted them to take up and would stick way from a couple of other issues environmental. And otherwise thinking, he's too centrist. It's crazy to me. I mean here we are. I remember John Wayne in the Cowboys, there ain't no other. They say it there ain't no Sundays west of Nevada on the leaves. How they put it. In in that context, you aren't going to get a whole why that cohesion between Texas and California. But they're thinking was that who he on Castro is way too centrist in? So as better roared, which is unbelie like this crazy like here like now Begnaud roared. No, cure O, barrow Beto. That's what I see. No, cure Beto. The the thing about betta that I see. And I don't understand is. He just says lots of different things. I don't think he truly has. We'll say this dot he came on with me. We sat down for about forty minutes. It's they're on our soundcloud on our podcasts, and we talked about the border in our remember asking him point. Blink don't you think the border is more of an ideological issue where your party wants inclusion at all cost. But here were asking them to exclude that maybe you can be defined more by what you are not than what you are in him handling that issue in saying, yes, we need to firm up the border in people who are here illegally need to be sent home. And you'll base upon Monday night in a just makes me second. Guess what? I was told face to face that. Maybe you don't believe these things. Maybe you think that? Not not only asylums, but others ought to be brought in when I think that's the majority of the democratic presidential nominees are people running for the nominee position of the democrat party. The most of them, you know, two years ago, they were four voting for billions of dollars for border security in the wall numerous times, they voted for that they were not for late term abortion. And I wanna talk about that. Then what's happening in New Mexico and New York and Virginia. I, you know, I know abortion is a tough issue for some for me. It's not I believe that life starts at the heartbeat and ends when heartbeat starts stops. Right. I always believe that. And that's my stance. But the fact that we're talking about late term in full term abortion, New Mexico. I'm from New Mexico, and there's two things that's going on in that state. They're run by. The radical left in my opinion. Now when the pass a Bill in the house, I guess got past it hasn't passed the Senate yet on full term abortion late at night. And then there's a Bill that was just recently presented in New Mexico where they're going to put a temporary ban on fracking and horizontal drilling. Oil wells in the state of New Mexico for four years is going to be brought onto the floor on March eleventh. I mean, that's extreme viewpoints right there, especially when southeastern Mexico northwest New Mexico generate eighty to ninety percent of all the states revenue. Imagine the number of jobs that would be lost there. And then you look at federal government and AO see presents. This trillions and trillions and trillions and dollar green new deal. I mean, it's just a wish knew more about it. But I don't. Which one the AFC thing because you've been doing a great job of representing the other side tax, free sheep, but you know, New Mexico. That's a big deal. Those are two that's a real Bill on the oil and gas industry that's going to be voted on by a Democratic Party that just passed a Bill to allow full term abortion. And what's to stop them from passing that Bill to stop the oil and gas industry altogether in the state of new Mexican now, the pushback is going to be intense from the federal government to with all the federal leases that are in the state of Mexico. Eddy county Lee county, which is were Hobbs artesia in Carlsbad are which that economics trickles down into where. The hub city. Yeah. You know? I twenty thirty percent of my patients, I know many of my doctor friend's that a lot of their patients come from southeastern Mexico and those economics trickled down, and they affect us when policies are past like that in New Mexico, but the abortion thing and that really bothers me. Yeah. I think what people does in. I think rightfully so in. I've been asking questions for long time for the longest time. Can you not be four the farmer and for the baby? Can you be like where where is that middle ground now in that's the middle ground that we need to forge doc white. Dr Jason white pre she coming in. I'm glad you invited me. Thank you. Yes. Gonna wall. Yeah. Good heavy back in here any parting thoughts. She got. I think the next couple years going to be interesting, and I hope to come back here and sit down and especially going into twenty twenty on my have to be on her a little more. Yeah. I think that's probably right. Hey, four now gonna get home guy to get home. Great family above average dinner waiting for me there at the Ponderosa. No games tonight. No it nothing else to do just gonna sit down dinners family. Oh, Texas is terrorist Oklahoma state important game. So you gotta sit down and watch that go. I got some things to do. God rod at some contracts. Maybe water real estate guy here the the real estate stuff rolling. So gonna get home. Gotta get home. Great family Defillo like an all out entrepreneur now are getting their little bit. It's just harder and harder to find time to sleep at night. Got a multitask him. We are multitasking. Hey, but that's what we do. Good west Texans until next time ray-ban buddies ray-ban will see a next addition tomorrow on the program, we have bazaar might bazaar gonna come in. We're going to do technology Thursay in then our friend. Fred Hardin on local economics and the housing market. Get him with Fred Hardin as well. Until next time Ravon buddies ray-ban, we'll see next edition of. Other side of Texas. 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I think we're together all together on my end. I'm not sure think that Daniels got everything working in plug in. As we roll along here on other side at Texas two thousand nineteen happy New Year's to you, and yours hope that your Wednesday didn't start off like a Monday today in if it did a hope that that is not a sign of things to come. You are listening to the most listened to platform all of west, Texas. Glad that Hewer here as we broadcast from the racer car wash studios. Racer car wash voted Lubbock specis wash for five years running stop into one of five convenient locations across hope city for the best wash around guaranteed racer wash dot com where you can find the location. That works best for you. So friends. New year new shows new things. Couple of quick well coming up, by the way Ross Ramsey. We're gonna go over the hundred and forty days of the Texas Texas legislature meets every other year for one hundred forty days. Ross Ramsey is. Now, the dean of Texas political journalism. He's gonna talk us through what those hundred and forty days. Look like what's happening where and win things start off slow, and then they I'll let him talk you through it things heat up. And then they tried to get everything done one hundred forty days. Ross Ramsey my political counselor coming up and then the one and only Ted Mitchell chancellor of Texas Tech university on the legislative agenda for the university. But we're also gonna talk about a lot of other cool things. Like how much better my here is than his and he's got a better treehouse in I have. And I want to try to Airbnb that thing so fun conversation coming up with Ted Mitchell but half an hour from now Ross Ramsey in about ten minutes from now new year new show. We are we've got our new studio together, and I was told Daniels not here now. But the last report I was given should be ready at the end of the week next week maybe the week after so I'm looking at maybe January fifteen switching over to new studio, which means if you're listening in the podcast. It'll be better audio for you at also same station same place same podcast platform. None of that changes. Just the equipment. We say that this. These are the studios or buddy Holly became famous because that's historical fact. But there's also a lot of Queant that hadn't changed since buddy Holly became famous. So we're gonna make some changes there. And we're all sitting in bring you some news stuff. We're going to start doing the show Daniel thinks it's a good idea. I don't Daniel does thinks that we ought to be Facebook live and some this stuff that you can watch on the computer, or maybe we put up clips of Facebook live of on our other side of Texas Facebook page. Daniel's been right so far. So I'm gonna trust Daniel the millennial as we roll along. But also in this is where I'm one start today in two thousand nineteen. You hear a lot about New Year's resolutions. Well, there's an unsaid New Year's resolution is a political resolution going on in Texas right now in its everybody trying to find their footing in what's been a verbal landslide in the landscape who's going to get the best footing. Who can get that? Putting? And I think that you see a new political landscape coming in two thousand nineteen must spend a couple of minutes on that form get Ross Ramsey on the show is a monologue along with you. I am a west Texas. Can that is my self described her? I've decided to define myself that way, some people call me a populist, and that's fine. Purry populace the populism things seemed to change. But with me whenever I'm talking about prairie populism or west, Texan ISM. I'm always whenever you listen to me. I'm always going to be about my place, and this is transferable to other places in Texas or the country where where people are listening. That you can be about your place first, and then domesticate a party platform to fit with it. So that you get a west Texas crat or in east Texaco at a sow Texaco can. But I'm all about place. I and that's not because of native ISM. Well, it is because the native ISM, but it doesn't play out plays out in people making political deals with one another to achieve objectives for their. It's just like what you're about see the vet school. You're gonna get the people like in. This is just me betting, but a dozen boroughs a John Fru. Low state house of Representative members out of Lubbock, maybe even poor price. Drew Darby some others John Smith that vote for things that they wouldn't typically vote for in way out in the weeds votes. People will never be able to tell except we're going to bring it to you here on the program. Because they're making deals they're making deals for the region. And and that's where I've always been. And that's where I'm going to be. I don't care how much there is a new political terrain in Texas. I'm still gonna push place. I and say to somebody up in North Texas. We'll go with you on this. You come with us on this. And let's all have a big place porting because the place carries a continuity and knowledge, and it passes from generation to generation how place works, and what makes it turn. And when there's disruption in in this continuity, learning transpires, by costly lessons of what the place will and will not tolerate in then at risk demise. And I started this program out of place all Aji, and I'm still at that place. Rural Texas has a lot at risk in. I think in the Mondays. Komen Avalon shirl, I think is even gonna be about. Why do we not see more rural revival type legislation in Texas? And in Washington. Let's let's get to that. But I began to think about. That prairie populism in this that west Texan ISM in the new politics. There's a new the ground is shifting in Texas right now, and it shifting away from a one party system, Texas is synonymous with one party state back whenever it was all democratic and now that it's all Republican. But you're seeing that all Republican begin to recede to road in. So the extreme whenever it was one party in the Republicans were winning statewide races by twenty points. You saw people give in to far-right policy that wasn't necessarily conducive to place. It's not conducive to place in every begin to talk about eliminating or consolidating schools. Number one example in rural Texas, we just went through the state championships. My goodness how many great football programs. We have in outlying areas of Lubbock new deal in shallow water in Abernethy. And then you go up into other places as well. Canadian. These great football programs in those all come from proud school districts, and you cannot talk about consolidation of schools without talking about consolidation towns in that means the end of a place. But the more the Republican party gay into in this being five years ago. Like, there are things I see today that I would never drained that were possible five years ago p so many people shifting position. I don't want to get ahead of myself. But in the media impolitic people begin to shift and come back to the middle to till middle right position. Maybe even a middle left position. And one thing that the rural Texas always fight against his suburban, Texas, at least for the last decade where there is no sense of place. And I don't mean to be ugly. People live in the suburbs and follow the pursuit of happiness, and I get it. But there's not a sense of place. So that property taxes become the predominant issue. And then there are other side issues, but guess what when the suburbs begin to vote democratic then that changes, the dynamics, and that's what happened in Texas. Two thousand eighteen all of a sudden, I'm speaking of an urban conference urban counties event next week with Ross Ramsey. We'll talk about here in a minute in. What I would have said in October, and what I will say in January or totally different because of the composition of what turned out in the suburbs. It changed a lot of the picture. Now, what you've got left in place where it has been one party or the da hard left wing Democrats at run a lot of in involved out at true ideological positioning in Lubbock in in a lot of other places in what guess what they wanna do. Now, they went to go. They wanna to go further lift based upon two thousand eighteen they can't take signs and say, well, maybe if we moderated a little bit we might achieve a win in a lump counting Republican party this one I hear a lot. We ought to be able to carry guns at the courthouse. We'll carry if you not into the Lubbock county courthouse. She know that they're inmates are being shifted from floor. Floor. It'd be crazy for somebody to have a gun accessible to an inmate at anytime. But, but that's a big part of Lubbock county Republican party platform right now, it just shows you how out of touch they really are the terrain shifting a new politics. And I'm telling you watch people who you've watched over the last decade in politics in media and you'll begin to see how they'll begin to shift. But I do think it bodes well for a vet school in that terrain to say guess, we're Republicans won. They won in rural Texas follow the lead. And we'll take you the promised land make a deal with us. That's just some west Texan ISM some prairie populism. As we kick off. Ross Ramsey coming up with us at mystic with us fun program. Head. Some. Jags all star up in this. Yeah. So mild Ma Daggs. Hey, you can follow along the program on air AM, five eighty on line at other side of Texas dot com. Just click on the listen live along j Leeson it j Leeson on Twitter and his first edition of two thousand nineteen is Ross Ramsey executive editor of the Texas tribunal Ross this where we gonna start off. Now, you are the dean of Texas political journalism. You cannot deny this fact again and hermits been longer. How come I never heard his name all this? Well, you know, we just keep talking off from the front of the list. Begi peacock has gone onto state employment. Argue Ratcliffe is retired ten Herman persists. How much further ahead is Herman than you. I think he's got ten years on me. And he's at the statesman. Correct. He's a columnist over there. He's got how much on you aren't if he's got ten. I I did a bunch of time in Dallas. The political writer jer us, she weighed on just I'm just a pup my apologies to Kim Herman there. Ross Ramsey at Ross Ramsey. I was I'm having a review program here. But we're people ask me where did you really like you just gun in tex- politics? Two years ago started on Ross Ramsey columns. He can read them every Monday Wednesday Friday at Texas Tribune dot org, and for those who are new for Texas politics. A lot of people listen to the program kind of their jump into the shallow end of the pro show into the pool. I should say Ross is a good guy to take us into the shallow win. And then get in the deep end as fast as you want to Ross the Texas legislature meets every two years for one hundred forty days in what I wanted to do is spend some time with you today to do a little one a one on what that hundred and forty days looks like what's going on kinda month to month as you. Roll along in a legislature? They start off with a little bit of a bang. They come in it'll happen next Tuesday. And Alexa, speaker of the house we expect to be Dennis bonding. It'll be his first time Joe Strauss's going out after five terms. The Senate is headed by Dan, Patrick and in the governor won't be inaugurated officially a week later. So on January fifty on the day before the session, the controller public accounts. Glenn Hager comes in and says, here's how much money I estimate your budget guys are going to have to spend in the next two year budget, and once all of that's laid out then the tenant governor, and the speaker take a little bit various mileage varies every session, but they take a little bit of time, and then come out of name who's gonna be on which committees and who's going to chair those committees. And then we're kind of often a racist except that it's very slow race. Start. You have all of that noise at the beginning. And you will hear you know, what a pomp and circumstance on Tuesday. A lot more Rick later with the inaugurations of the governor and the Lieutenant governor, and then it'll be relatively quiet. There's a period during which lets letters file legislation, but don't actually vote on it on the four they'll start working on the budget and some other things, but the real fireworks of the session really gets going in mid March or so and they'll start bigger Asli hearing bills and doing all kinds of things they'll get a budget out usually around Easter depending on where on the calendar Easter is and then April, and may are the really, you know, crazy months last sixty days of the session on a win the committees or finishing their work. The legislature is starting to get a lot of bills on the floor, and you can imagine that being on the floor of the legislature with the full house with the full Senate eats. At the time. They would otherwise be spending in committees. And we get this series of deadlines for bills to pass and time running out, and it kind of works like a bottleneck. So it gets noisier and noisier and testier and testier until it ends on Memorial Day. It's actually even over before it ends because the deadlines are such that the last couple of days, you're kind of quiet, then they're followed by a three week period. During which the governor looks at the legislation that's in front of him and decides whether to sign legislation to veto legislation or let it become law without his signature that takes us to about the middle of June. And it'll be over. Okay. You did that all it was all in one breath. Because any met that. No, no. I. Let's go back through that. For just a moment for four listeners things pretty quiet until about mid March. Right. We got working in February. Yeah. And for listeners to these committees already have a bunch of staffers right staffers who know how the process works. So if your name to a new committee, you know, your name to the House Agriculture Committee. You've got staffers who can help orient you. A little bit. It depends where the new speaker, and you're gonna get a lot of new chairman and chairwomen on these committees. And it's to them to hire or to keep or not keep the staffers who were already in place. So I think you're gonna see a lot of staff shuffling, you know, here at the beginning just because there are new members there's usually twenty or thirty Novembers, and then when they named the committee's because, you know, this committee used to be run by you know, somebody from Houston and now run from by somebody from Dallas and they want their own clerk in there. They want their own staffers there, but be some shuffling around. But generally awry, generally, the staff is at least as knowledgeable list of member is so the first day in the session, you'll see the house one hundred and fifty members elect their own leader. Right. Okay. So whether other questions, I have is you went through that committees kind of a big deal. You think you think the Senate isn't going to release their committee members committee appointments before the legislature of heard that knowledge Christmas now, I think they'll do it. I think they'll do, you know pretty quickly that I don't think they'll do it till the Lieutenant governor starts his term. You know, his first official act is, you know, whatever happens in the three seconds after he's sworn in. Once he's sworn in kill, you know, start doing all of those kinds of things. He's got every right to do it now. But you know, just as a matter of protocol a lot of times, they wait till they they've got all this stuff. Set members have been filing bills since the Monday after the election. So they're stocking up bills. If it goes like previous sessions, they'll file, you know. Six thousand bills plus or minus and they'll pass about seventeen hundred of those plus or minus a lot of those are duplicates. But certainly not all of them. And when you look at the way this process works. It's it works to call. You know, the bills they wanna pass out of all of the bills that they filed and it's usually about one. Yeah. I have not seen a lot of sexy bills Ross. I mean, it seems like you know, I I did a monologue about this. This is new political train not for you. But for folks like me, you don't have like a dominant far right party far left party. So everything sings pretty close the mill you don't see a lot of. I mean, there are some novelties out there. But you don't see a lot of like what you would have seen the last legislature for sure people are statewide aren't winning by twenty points anymore. Well, this is you know, what what the electorate calling for, you know, one of the things, you know, I maintain even when I'm disgusted with some of these guys that, you know, they're very receptive to what Motors thinking what voters are telling him. And if Goethe's are telling him to buckle down and do some serious stuff, they do that. And if Goethe's are telling them to go out and get some partisan trophies for this type of that one. They. Do that. And I think we're in a transitional of your couple of legislators that, you know, the voters were stirred up as partisans and wanted to get the partisan wins. And now, you know, most of these newly elected people and reelected people are coming back. You know, thinking that the voters want them to buckle down and get some get some work done. And there's also, and I, you know, I'll call around is the weeks go by and find out a little bit more about this. But I suspect in Texas, certainly in probably another states, there's some desire politicians not to look like Washington, and you know, if Washington's screaming and squawking and jumping up and down and shutting down government and all that kind of stuff the mood here. Whether you're Republican or democrat is going to be let's just stay away from the loud kids, you know, Ross Ramsey et. Ross Ramsey on Twitter. Something folks need to know about these legislators is that they are citizen Mohmaed. Offers that they're expected to maintain a full-time job and then run down to Austin for six months or so every other year, at least that's the way it was planned originally when people were in wagons and Texas just ended as a Republican insert the legislature Ross Tillis are they still full fulltime citizen lawmakers are they just lawmakers? Now. I seven thousand a year, right? Yeah. They've been six hundred dollars a month, and they make a per diem daily payment that said by the IRS, it's interesting, you know, set by the IRS is allowable travel money, and in Texas, it amounts to I think they just reset it. And I don't have an exact number in my head. But it's around two hundred bucks a day while they're here. So they'll make you know, twenty five or thirty thousand in the session year, and you know, it's not a fulltime salary, and you know, one of the things that. That does is it make sure that the people who are in office. I think the originally I did was make sure the people in office have to go home and live under the laws they pass. But it makes it very difficult for normal people to run for office because you don't make enough money. And you've got you know, got to put food on the table. So you get sort of a hybrid, you get people in jobs where their partners or their bosses or their harems. Or whoever says, listen, we think this is important, and we like, you know, that we're going to disappear for six months every two years and come back, but you know, it's not an ideal situation either for the companies that they work for or for the, you know, or for the members who are in the people who were trying to do this and try and trying to get by doing it one of the other things that has gotten much more burdensome over the years has been constituent services, just because. The legislature is an obsession doesn't mean. I feel like I don't I can't pick up the phone call my legislator and say, hey was so and so and people do that no matter whether they're in town at home or in Austin. And so that, you know, they they're in Austin for six months, but in a lot of ways, they're working all the time. Ross Ramsey again. Every Monday Wednesday Friday there textra Pune dot org. That's good little one a one Ross ranging. We appreciate it. Happy to do it in going to be a fun session you and I get to hang out at the sheer ago. Guess you're staying at the Sheraton. I am down. Awesome. Gonna do the urban counties in capital two thousand nineteen education policy conference. That sounds pretty complicated. All I was told was that I was going to send on stays with you in Harvey, crumbled. We're just gonna ask you questions. We're gonna flip the table on. Yeah. That's going to be somebody today is kind of like being a junior high kid and being invited to speak with a couple of professors. That's that's my general gist of that thing. But we'll have good fun. We'll we'll do what professors do. He'll torture. The kid. Yeah. Okay. I'm looking forward to that. Ross said as I rolled my eyes on the radio. Appreciate you follow Ross along their text commune dot org. We'll talk to you next week, buddy. Our the pleasure happy now. You're all right happy new year. See you Ross Ramsey out gonna get Ted Mitchell on whenever we get back. Ted Mitchell, two D's, that's Dr Ted Mitchell. You may be chancellor Dr Ted Mitchell to you as we roll along right here on the other side of Texas be back in about ninety seconds from now. Better weather. Degree in do. Stone. Big out. Here on the phones with us. Simply calling him from DC is Dr Ted Mitchell, your chancellor at Texas Tech university. Documenta our you I'm doing well. I didn't know if that was reporting or that would really you live. Yeah. Hey on that good. You are. And I think I don't think you minute is me being good. But. Mino- take do or that was me on the other life. Listen. And that's that's a mistake. I get pretty common in I feel bad for you. Because I got a bit a bit more of a gut than you do. Yeah. Somebody had somebody on the plane asking if I j lease and a few weeks ago. Are you? So did you hit them? Or would you? Thank thank you for the compliment. Oh, listen to that. Hey, speaking of compliments, let's get a couple of housekeeping things out of the way, I need to ask your permission on a couple of things you've been a tree house there in east, Texas in Longview, the tell me square feet. It's about oh. Six hundred square feet os, just six hundred. Yeah. So. So the Leeson's take a little John east of thirty five and. What's what's the Airbnb? What's the nightly on that? You gotta come by. And see you got a good breakfast. That'll be your cost. No, you guys if you like three houses, you need to come see this thing. I tell everybody it's the best built home. We have is there. Anything up at t t u dot EDU on your tree house there. People just need to Google Ted Mitchell tree house, if you if you Google Cam, oh, I think camouflage chemistry how it'll pop up. Okay. And that that your place. Yeah. That's that's been one that that we at this little ranch that we've had out there any sexes. We've needed extra space for a long time. And and so just couple years ago, we decided instead of just having on a room to our cabin for adding on another little cabinet. We had three house. So there's been a lot of fun. You ever feel weird whenever you're around with like some hard knuckle west Texans and say they say, well, we're gonna go the ranch's weekend. You say we think that we'll go to the treehouse. Yeah. I don't think that they really get it until they get over there and see it, but you can probably sniper some bucks from up there. Right. All let me tell you. I've got my youngest son. He keeps thinking is the best blonde. He has them. But my life other than duck hunting over there. She doesn't allow him to be your hat, so. Yeah. But it is a very good blonde. Okay. Mom, we're on the permission front. We're doing some new things gun new studio put in place for the show gonna get into that. They tell me within the weeks home to say three weeks from now. But also looking to expand their online store. Do we have your permission to sell shirts that say our chancellor can kick your chancellor's ass? Yeah. You do whatever you want there. JJ? I think for me, it's not your name. So I'm not giving you a cut mid. There you go. There you go. Okay. Speaking of lets get in some ways, right quick. And you've got three regions there at the Texas taking diversity system that are up for reappointment gotten any word from the governor about any of the three not not a peep. And it's one of those things that in general when and I've been this is my ninth year of doing this. And so every two years, you get three people that will rotate, and and I've seen it done all different ways, obviously here, but the the same stuff, I here's the same stuff you here. And so from the standpoint of of what what will happen later this month, or what won't happen later this month, the focus that we all have when I say we I mean everybody on the team. I'm talking about all the the. President and all the vice-presidents and vice chancellor, we're just everybody's staying focused on the session with it. Because it's one of those things that with the with the appointments of of the regions were just gonna believe that up to people other than us. Obviously can't be vice chancellor for a day. Yeah. Have that man? depends on what you want to be vice chancellor up. I don't know. Maybe maybe I vice chancellor for day. I'm not sure about that too. But not a Pete from the governor or the governor not. But and and I will tell you that that generally speaking before every on there's something coming up. We don't have a people from the governor. So if you go back to every other odd year that we've done that there's even we've never I've never heard anything from the governor's offset until the time dot, and you've heard you've heard the, you know, the same thing, I do when they talk about the the folks that are looking for governor added when he was in Lubbock several or I guess few months back was saying that they would be looking for somebody from what Texas in general from Lubbock in particular. And then obviously, they were they were looking for people that would have been under represented, though, what that means in the final analysis. I really don't know. But I do know that that was a statement directly from him that that's what they'd be looking for. For you know, is August twenty second. But who's keeping score? It's January believe everything later this month. January twenty seven right? That's the day. Right. Yeah. That's correct. And there can be a holdover after that point. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They they they can have hold over. They and they can appoint Ron it's time when it went right up time, you still have to have confirmation. And so the folks it adds somebody that is on the board and somebody new is appointed than they have to go through Santa confirmation, which they tried to plug in very quickly during the session. If anybody to tell the over than bending on win their point when they're when they're on new persons appointed depends on wins actions going on, and whether or not then there there is a Senate confirmation or not, you know, Dr Ted Mitchell chancellor of Texas Tech, joining us here on your other side, and Texas I wanna get into vet school. But I, you know, one thing that your predecessor. Sir. Had in mind that I thought. Whenever you put together an asset in west, Texas, like Texas did so wisely decades ago, it it's there to present the interests of the region, and it is a rear region outside of Lubbock always called Lubbock the rural metropolis, but I wanna I wanna get into the rural based issues that that you're looking at talk to us about from a medicine standpoint as you come from the health sciences center in then into is that extends in telemedicine access and providers in rural communities rural hospitals talk to about issue from your because listen, here's the not Dr Mitchell, even though I'm gonna make quiche hurts at say that our chancellor can kick your chancellor's rear. The knock is that. You don't know much about Texas politics that these slurs were set up we put in chancellor's at Texas Tech who could. The legislature. But whenever it comes to rural medicine that puts you on the different plane because it's not like, you're just some average Joe walk in you understand the issue talk to us a little bit about rural based healthcare in what your legislative priorities are going in cure that. Rural bay healthcare is actually to me a microcosm of rule based governance in general because if you go to any rule part of the state of Texas, in fact, if you go to any part of any rural part of the United States, if you look at these community, there are two things that are vital for the existence that community one is an educational system and the other is healthcare system. And if you want to want communities around the state of Texas, not just in west, Texas, but if you wanna large watch, a small community dry up and blow away do away with either their educational system or their healthcare system, and that little town will cease to exist. And so one of the things that I've learned over the last nine years on the health science center side is that when you talk about the health of the area the healthcare that is delivered. There is a vital part of that. But as I said, it's just a microcosm of of the bigger picture of the health of that community in general and so. So we spent time in the in the legislature, and I've been down there now from multiple sessions. One of the things that is really important people to understand is that the needs of rural Texas. Are very very different than the needs of urban areas. And that's just the way it goes. And a lot of times when people talk about democrat versus Republican. It's actually really more Earl urban versus rural. And because for example, I'll use all use a education as an example, if you talk about the city of Dallas, if you talk about doing things to get balancers for kids to go to other schools and things of that nature. It may work when you've got multiple schools around you that you can choose from. But the thing that same issue, which is typically a Republican type issue would not work. Very well, if you're in debt where your choices spills are far more limited. And so something that we typically counts things and democrat versus Republican or conservative versus liberal that very often the way we have to think about things we have to think about what are the rule needs versus the urban need because they're oftentimes very different, and it's not just for healthcare that's for education and other things as well. And so the. Charge that we have. Although that we although we've been focused primarily on areas. West of I thirty five hundred and eight counties in west Texas, the charge that we have is to protect the food or and food fuel producers of the state who live in these rural areas because if you think of the epicenter of the beef industry of the nation, it's around MURILLO if you think of the epicenter of the barber industry cotton, it's around Lubbock and think of the energy sector. The epicenter is is the Permian basin Midland Odessa. And those are the people that take care of people in Dallas and Houston and Austin San Antonio, we've got to make sure that we take care of them. So when you go to the legislature, it's not a matter of just trying to go down there with your hand held out. It's a matter of going down there and telling folks listen. You're good, and and your standard of living is completely dependent on whether or not we're able to take care of the people in west Texas that are staining your standard of living here in Austin or Houston or in doubt. And so we're not coming down here as a bunch of poor rural folks with our Hatton hands saying, hey, can you help us out here and throws the bone? We're going down there saying if you wanna take care of yourself, you better help take care of these folks out in, and that's a very very very different approach. I think to me to me when you go to the legislature. It's not a matter of just trying to go down there, and and slap people on the back and try to work out deals. There's obviously there's obviously a part of that is that but more importantly at the end of the day, you've got to be able to make your k- you've got to be able to make your case for a need. And why it's important of the state of Texas to be involved in that. And when it comes to things like the veterinary medical school when it comes to the mental. Health initiative that we have when it comes to even the suit enhancement down at Angelo state university for first interest students, and if it comes to things down to the the dental school out in farwell, text, those are all things where it's clear that we're trying to service a need that is important. Not just for our reason for the entire state, man. You know, sometimes I really get bummed out about how you've perfected my talking points. Yeah. Okay. Then Harris side. No. But really, I mean I entered this program Dr Mitchell by talking about the importance of place in my talking about how I domesticate party's platform to my place, and then I'll choose the party base upon which one's best for my place in. Let's switch over to to vet school for just a moment. We're we're the bow. The powers that the one we're up here. And we are saying here the camp rock in in emerald. I believe on the I twenty seven. Corridor between Potter and Lubbock county, the governor himself got enough votes to offset his losses in El Paso, a major urban region in that's just in five counties. Right there. You have to be going into this legislature saying, hey, guys, look where did you win you one writer? That's where you want right. Right. And when you talk purely about the political side of things all of the sudden what I call the mid west taxes axis, and that goes someone in the mid west Texas accent from the panhandle down to the Permian basin not far west acted and not not Fort Worth west actors, but that mid west Texas accent that goes from the panhandle down to the Permian basin. That's what one all of these statewide racists for the Republicans that section that wanted to add that to my of an accurate, mid west. I'm writing it on my head right now. Go ahead. No that in your point is bought on because headed not been for the fact that counties up and down twenty seven and extending all the way down eighty four to the to the Permian basin. Had it not been for the fact that those counties were turning out heavily heavily Republican then you would have had some of the state wide races. That would have gone the other way. Yeah. Especially those races that were within, you know, look the US Senate race in that was two point nine buried within Burs late wives other than Greg Abbott were within six and a half. Right. And it made all the difference in quite frankly politicians, you know, they obviously look at numbers like that. And they know it still thing you dance with the one what Brun yet, and they they know you look at things like that. And it's not just that the that area. If you look at the rural areas of the state, it's not just that they that they tend to be more conservative. But but they also turn out folks turned out to vote, and it was is it was an important factor in a lot of these races. And we we do it in back, and you're not trying to you know, trying to go down there and beat people over the head about stuff. But you do need to remind them that we need to remind him of that. We're the people help to support you on this and not the there's not a tip for tat you support us because we supported you. But, but because we supported you you need to listen to what we're trying to tell you about the needs that were trying to serve out here that the majority of folks that live over thirty five and east it's just not on their radar. It's just not on their radar to serve these areas. Not because they're bad votes. It's just because it's out of sight out of mind. And that's it. You know? Yeah. Always sing on the program. Morton canadian. Mule shoe Littlefield Lubbock all the same thing in people. Don't think about it. That's right. Yeah. So I wanna ask you this in I'm going to allow you to back out on this. If you want to back out on the question, I don't think he will. But I'm really disappointed with chancellor John Sharp in that he is made. This a hill is your cohort president Lawrence Cubanacan said Hilda die on this vet school is some of these studies Texas politics who watches it with some obsession. I have a great regard for John Sharp. I think that Jon sheriff's resume is only that equal to Kent Hance in the state, and that is saying something butter, but your other cohort down in college station has made this a Hilda die on. What do you make that? Are you disappointed with him to that? He would make this defining ish. Issue of of his chancellorship. They're texting him. No, I'm Anne tell you. I'm not disappointed and I'm doing that back. That's kind of what I'd expect him to do with it. Because what he's you know, he's he's one hundred ten percent about Texas am, and that's what he's about. And that's the role of these playing down there. That's the role he's been playing. But what does he make of chancellor for? I know a lot of aggies in I guess John Sharp cone to percenters here and Aggie parlins who are all four of it school in AMRO here. Graduated have their single on the wall proudly in new doing the thumbs of whatever gig him who are all for the vet school. But just I get lost in this. I don't understand. Why is issue that it is for him? Well, and I I don't know why issue for him. But I'll tell you that our approach to the session with the best school is about the need for this area. And how important it is to this? The. Last thing that anybody has ever wanted to do is to try to make something about why Texas Tech should get something versus what they shouldn't get it because of AM because this is something this discussion. This discussion has been going on since nineteen seventy one the Texas education coordinating board in nineteen seventy one took a vote on whether or not Texas Tech should have a vet school, and they voted five to four in nineteen seventy one to give tax event school. And it's really interesting because if you look at their minutes from nineteen seventy-one, it is it. It's ironic. How similar it is to the same discussion. We're having now. So the folks that were on the board back, then we're saying, we're we're not keeping up with the demands we're not getting people come out to the the rural areas, we're not getting them to go into large animal that medicine and the arguments were exactly the same fifty years ago as they are today and yet. What has happened? In. The meantime is the state has exploded. I just saw the census report today where the fastest growing state in the United States. We had over three hundred thousand people come in in the last year. So you go back fifty years ago, and the problem was already occurring, and what has happened is this just mushroomed over the course of the past decade or so for us. This is clearly clearly something that is about needing all hands on deck. What an has proposed with having student from college station, do rotations of the west, Texas. Am hey, we're all for that. They can get a few people to to wind up staying in that area. So be it. But for us this is not an either. Or this is we need all hands on deck for this thing. And if you look at the number of students have to leave the state every year, we actually have more students to leave the state of taxes on an annual basis to get their veterinary degree in day in the state to go to 'em because we don't have the slot. You know, and so it's about a knee that were that has just. Underserved and unserved for now nearly half a century. I really think it's disappointing. The other sharp is disappointing to me not to you. I'm speaking for myself for me the other thing that's disappointing. Is that whenever you have the opportunity like tech an atrium have within that fifteen miles between canyon at west Texan him and Amarillo to combine to do something. That's unprecedented in a rural region. That's disappointing to me as well that they're both partnership that part is disappointing always disappointing when because of things that have nothing to do with serving need something can't happen. That's true. And it puts all I mean, then it's not about I just I'm places. I if I can say that word, I'm I'm place over party, but it's really disappointing. Whenever I see somebody, really. Very down into their own interest. And do something that's against the state would against the state's best interest. Ted Mitchell chancellor, Texas Tech as we close up here. Somebody was just named Amril Amanda year, Jerry. Hi, Jerry in Margaret Hodge. I think one of my highlights two thousand eighteen was getting the no Gerry hutch, and he is a west Texan like he's on his own tier of west Texan ISM there. Jerry hij- had ten million dollars. He and Margaret Tim million dollar pledge in. I tweeted a thinking a couple of days ago. I'm hearing rumors that they could put that ten million dollars back up for the vet school as you go into a legislature. That's a pretty big deal. All of a sudden, you got ten million dollar pledge from somebody. I guess it could be less. I don't know the parlance it could go from pledge to gift can you confirm? Any of those rumors, but I will tell you this that we are actively visiting with Mr. Hodge, and I'm confident that at the end of the day, he's he's very very very supportive of this effort up there. And so I'm not going to speak for him until he's had a chance to think through with his bride and all that. But I'm confident that he will support the vet school in every way possible moving forward just like he has in the past. I'll I'll leave it at that. But I'll tell you. He is the epitome of of kind of the west Texas can do attitude about things because as you just said we go down to Austin and say, listen, we've got skin in the game. We've got people out here putting up money for the for the for the abilities. We've got people that are putting up money for scholarships. We've got people that are putting skin in this game in a way that lowers the bar the financial bar for the state. And so we're doing this in a way that distinctly different. And I have to tell you the energy. And you know, this the energy around the has been just. Dramatic over the course past couple of years. It's really it's been precedent fun to watch this. May you gotta do this with me like every couple of weeks? Just went you think about that have your staff run some numbers in decide how good or bad. It is for you. But I don't know why you don't have a radio show already. But you really good on the radio. Yeah. I've got a face for radio. I've got any problem. Here's the problem you and I look alike. Well, I've got better hair. But. Hey, we appreciate you making time. What are you doing in DC, by the way, you're gonna go? Are you gonna go grad? Some we'll pills until listen ear food, fiber and fuel. Let me tell you something folks up here, they forget how much money they owe. You gotta help them. Remember? We just gotta we just got always remind him that hand portent is that what we do in west, Texas. What we do when in fact, everybody around the gun and every now, and then gotta come up and remind him of that. Well, I'd love to watch you pull a little pill sometime that's for sure he is dead Mitchell of Texas ticking. Diversity the chancellor you're talking to you J. Hey, I appreciate you coming on duck air. Ted Mitchell have fun there in DC h is always into a quick break. And we're supposed to hit that. Yeah. There. It is. Any really guys, honestly. I'll take the like if you listen to the program, I'll take people to task when they need to be taken the task. But I'm really optimistic about that guy. I mean, come on the show into thing gauge, the topics I just gave him he's not your average politician in really liked me. Some Ted Mitchell again to a break and close out this in of the west, Texas. What? The other side of Texas some west Texan ISM headed straightaway. Sick rockwood. Gringo? This profession doesn't pay. The I don't understand anybody does radio in unless they own the station. Another sale they do it for a long duration. Tom in my comment is always we make good money off the show. I'm not gonna go into how much we make. But it's good. It's good money. And it's only possible because you guys because you go out there, and you tell like I was with an advertiser the other day in they just sold the big product to listener show listeners show brought it up for sheet you guys doing that. But all is to say. The show for me is an outlet to talk about things that really matter. And what was so people is when I stop having fun. I'll stop doing it. And whenever you get people like Ross Ramsey on self deprecating. Ross Ramsey whose is stabbed in was well, esteemed a journalist. There is in this state think the world Ross Ramsey in in for Ted Mitchell to come on and the chancellor to come on in to be self deprecating himself. I mean, I would not come on the radio show and say somebody told me I looked like you the other day. I would take that. I'm my well. I wouldn't I would if I were him. And that's my way seeing Ted Mitchell's better looking than I am. But that's why we do it. And that's why we're here in my whole purpose. 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Listen and take your any emails that you send me Jay at other side of Texas dot com. We will engage for better for worse. Some you guys think that on the prairie socialist some the prairie im-, by the way. Is there not room for a new party? Like, I may do an an an Amman log on this tomorrow, a new party that is somewhere between like these left wing crazies in these right wing crazies. There has to be room for that in. I think a lot of people would vote for that word of mouth being what it is in the biggest small town in the world. Lubbock Texas in as you listen wherever you're listening. There has to be a way for people to meet somewhere near the middle in say, you get this. I get that. I do appreciate Ross Ramsey my political counselor and Ted Mitchell, my chancellor for coming on the program today. I hope you've enjoyed it in pass along with friends. 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If you're registered to vote if you're listening, I'm talking specifically to a Lubbock audience right now, it's vote Lubbock dot org. A big initiative a proposition, I should say on the ballot. And it is four an expo center. The Lubbock guy St. proposition to me is a no brainer. Of course. That's yes. You're going to raise taxes, you're gonna make schools safer. You're going to create some efficiencies within the lot sounds. I get blasted as a as an edgy crat. I'm not beyond reforming would I am beyond is funding private schools with private money. But don't even get me started there the proposition for Lubbock St. a no brainer. Something that's come into some contention locally. I have asked questions of and I've had my questions answered I've been tough on the proposition. A and. Raise the question that I don't think anyone else raised in that was about the car rentals in new federal law. The Federal Aviation Administration act reauthorization act of two thousand eighteen a lot of words to throw out. There says that you can no longer tax rental cars at airports, or at agencies permitted by reports for projects away from the airports, a lot of prop lot of prepositions there. And that comes right down in the middle of this. It was unexpected by this group, and I got my questions answered I would delineate that further. But what we're going to do today on the program is play some audio from a show that I did this morning, and it was weighed will show here on AM five eighty. We had the leader of the steering group from the Lubbock expo center. Lubbock county expo center steering committee, the chair that committee. Randy Jordan, a local banker sat in the hot seat this morning with both Wade Wilkes and his co host is in myself Colonel Dave Lewis and myself, and Randi Jordan, one quick note before we start up that audio, and that's what I'm gonna play in break into intermittently throughout the program day, a really informative conversation or I would not rear it for our. Listeners a great note today from a listener said when they give credit where Credit's due. I'm participating in this election. I usually don't but they had learned how significant this is. And I really do appreciate that note. And I hope that you do go vote. If you don't make it to the polls today, I believe that I'll I'll check in outbreak back in whenever we go to our next break in. And get with yawn win the the break after next on win. The polls do close, but it is extremely important. Your votes matter. Listen these politicians, I remember never I was a kid a politician received ten letters elected official receive ten letters from their district in the alarm bells went off in this day and age of robo calls, and you know, these various websites sinned. Mass emails to elected leaders that can be disregarded. The best way to get their attention. The best way to been them if not removed them. To a west Texas can point of view is to vote they see those numbers in. That's what matters coming back up after the break. Gonna get into our audio here on your other side, stick right where you are. As I mentioned earlier, we're going to play some tape from show. I did this morning here on AM five eighty show on which I participated in. It was the chair of the Lubbock county Expos center. Pack and answered some questions. I think very informative lots of misinformation out about that is and I say that not as somebody you don't hear, you know, advertising from them on the I'm shooting you straight here. I've done the homework you can go to other side of Texas dot com and see questions I've raised, but I think in the end a good proposition hope that you'll hear this out and shoot me your thoughts. J other side of Texas dot com again pre recorded, and we'll jump into it. Now. Wait Wilkes Jay, west, Texas, Leeson, Randy Jordan and Colonel Dave Lewis right here on AM five eighty and we'll be back in about twenty minutes. Back with Randy Jordan, j Leeson Colonel Lewis. All right. So j you did a lot of work on the outside money part? We kind of touched on that at the beginning of the program this morning, but what did you find out in your exhaustive investigations Gill? Austin? I'm so exhausted. I had to go all the way to the Lubbock county elections office in Pula document. At least you do. Uphill. Both ways. It was terrible. When they're exhausted. So you watch this. Effectively you almost have to candidates into packs here. And so you're interested in what is the opposition wiser opposition? I think Randi's may discuss this morning, then, you know, seems seems pretty square so why be opposed to it in such a way that you would have money. What's the motivation is it just ideological because whenever you start throwing the kind of money that we're seeing you have to ask yourself. What why why the opposition? Okay. And so it could just be that they're concerned about a political point of view and maintaining a political point of view. But if you go through that kind of money, then you must be a true believer. If you're doing that. And so or it could be that somebody has an alternative in you that they want to build later, and they want folks to vote against profiting. I didn't think about that where it's kind of interesting on just listening off the possibilities while that's why you're here. So. So in trying to figure out what's going on a looked at a pulled their campaign finance report there it is Levick taxpayers for accountability. In by the way. You know, we watch state politics pretty closely, and anytime, I see a pack that says fiscal responsibility or accountability, I'm all medically suspicious of what they're up to follow the money. It's almost like somebody come on. And saying, hey, you can believe me, I'm telling you the truth after you make every statement, you begin to wonder are you telling the truth, are you accountable in this respect. So for a group that has accountability. I started asking. A week ago. A little over week ago is the face of this opposition campaign in why don't we know who they are if they're so adamant in voting against this. Why haven't they come out and shown us who they are rather than like these creepy fade into black and fade out to black commercials. That folks are seeing like who's the face then down. So I didn't know. And so I began to ask who the treasurer of the campaign was because they obviously didn't have a committee are not a vocal committee. So who's a treasure in? I can't find out of begin to hear that. It's Charles CJ Hargrove C J Hargrove is running this. He's the treasurer for the pack this what you I heard. Yeah. But then I began to hear well, he's not the treasurer of the pack. And so, well, I guess I'll just go down and find out myself because who's running this still comes to find out two things one that Charles Hargrove. Stepped down from the pack. He followed with a pack. I believe on the nineteenth. He followed his treasurer of the pack on the twenty six he was gone or twenty fifth. He was going six days. Yeah. He was treasurer six days. And so then you begin to ask around. Why do you fall as treasurer? And then pull out, and I was told by multiple people that he didn't agree with the tactics that the campaign was taking. So he pulled out now. Whenever I go down in pool. The campaign finance report this one they've raised a total of six eighteen thousand six hundred dollars. But sixteen thousand nine hundred of it come from Roswell New Mexico in Austin. So the breakdown looks like this ten thousand dollars from strategy production company, an energy company in Roswell New Mexico alone for ten thousand and I don't have looked and looked. I cannot find that link. If somebody has that linked Tech's in lead snow what this group has to do with strategy production in Roswell New Mexico. There's a seventeen hundred dollar incon- contribution from Charles Hargrove for apparently they bought seventeen hundred dollars in yard sons that you see throughout town throughout the county and an income contribution from Mesa media in Austin for radio and television production. They put together the ad. Yeah. They put together the ad in. I asked county election office official about will. Because on the campaign finance report. It doesn't designate just how much. That in-kind contribution was but the remainder of the money. That's not laid out is sixty nine hundred dollars. I said so did is the remaining sixty nine hundred from Mesa. They said, yes. So. Apparently this Lubbock in underlying Lubbock. Tax payers for accountability. In underlying accountability is funded by money from outside of Lubbock. And I'm wondering too, whom are they accountable after this election to repay that ten thousand dollar loan specifically, but it raises all sorts of questions. And so on the twenty fifth Hargrove appointed Tony Renna RIA as the treasurer of the fact, that's the only leadership, and he's the only person I've know of at all who's the hard Grover. What's his name? What does he do? I'm not familiar. I believe that he's a home builder avenue. I've never heard of him. So I don't know. I I've tried I called Ren RIA, and I called Hargrove now their return comment to me I called, but the name you continue to hear is this. So you've got Hargrove and RIA. I've heard over and over again that Carl is it former state rep is behind this in civil last Sunday night. I called Carl I sit and said Corliss, it j Leeson argue Mohinder this property opposition group because I continue to hear your name dropped with it. No. I don't know. Who's behind the group? I don't know anything about it. And they said, but I tend to make a contribution in. That's where a so you're telling me, you don't know anything about it. Because it's a little unbelievable to me more than a little unbelievable to me because get this Hargrove is is it's nephew. Okay. And Renner area is a long tongue campaign worker for is it. Okay. So Carl is it doesn't know anything about this has no idea what's going on. He's not had any conversations any tax any. Any launches? He has no no into this. Okay. He says he doesn't. So that's what we have on background there. And again, we'll go to the text line here. Jay says again, who gave the expo pack. Proponents are loan of eleven thousand dollars is ten thousand dollars dollar strata production company, Roswell New Mexico, Roswell New Mexico. Okay. Chris Jennifer, also, text again, she said, unfortunately, my parents believed the rumors in voted against the expo center. A wish all would have been able to have the form before early voting began. So people like my parents could have gotten the correct facts before voting. However, I did vote for it. And thank you. It will be a great facility for a community. Thank thank you for all your hard work on this, Jennifer. Thank you for the text. But to her point this was done in the eleventh hour it came in after early voting. Started mean? Yeah. So I mean, it was the last time we had Randy on the show. It wasn't an issue when I think early voting start it started on twenty second twenty second. So the second the second of all the treasury report came in three days prior. Yeah. We'll I didn't know we didn't know anything about it. I hadn't heard a word. Well, we. Yeah. Voting as I recall on the show on the nineteenth two weeks ago. I mean, we came out after examining everything solidly in favor of proposition. A and and I know I endorsed it at that point in time. Same time that they're filing this. So last minute timing associated, this is what really I think you and voted. You're not traditionally believe Wade vote about election day somewhere around there actually do that in primary because anything can happen. Anything can happen in that time period. Title on this question. You know, folks who voted is this came out the for three or four day. They didn't know anything didn't have time to flesh out the issue and hear from the other side doesn't want to speak up. But that if they do they're welcome to call in. But that's to Jennifer's point. And but again that the the first time I knew anything about it through social media. And or television ads was just about a week ago. Or so I mean, it wasn't that long ago. Early. Voting was well underway before I became aware. I know you heard about it before I did and started doing your your homework. What you do? Good work on that another text into Jay says, well, but can you contact the office of the secretary of state of New Mexico and get info on the principles of that production company, if that's the state incorporated in now that would be some exhaustive word. Yup. For a ten thousand dollar. No, no. I mean, I I'm I'm making a play on how you introduce the segment. Exhaust. I mean, there are we're within Roz wills range on this program. Yes, there were listeners in New Mexico. No. I mean, look it can be all sorts of things. It can be. Let's say let's say is. It's not being straightforward just say, then maybe he's got a lobby buddy through whom he's running a deal in the background. Right. I mean, it could be something like that. Or it could be somebody who's involved with this proposition. Who's this opposition who's not come out? Who's got somebody that can leverage money through that company? I it could be anything. Okay. I don't. I'm not making a claim on exactly what it is. But I do know. It's a fact it's the fact under the law right now that strata production company gave this money. And I mean when if they if a passes in I tend to think it would be or you guys would be spending more money than you're spending to be candid on advertising. But if a passes then who repays that money that'll be something interesting to on the opposition, the ten great. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough ads wrong. Hey, we're going to break right here. I said twenty it looks like we went about eleven minutes in that conversation continues in now coming up you'll have a chance to hear from Randy Jordan respond to what I've laid out at their again prerecording from this morning and you'll hear from Randy Jordan who heads up the steering committee for the Lubbock county expo center, stick right where you are more other side. Hey, we just tried to get to the bottom of this stuff. And I hope you're enjoying the content is we report on our place. Stick, right. We are about ninety seconds from now. We'll get right back into it here on your other son in texts to texts one when they to chime in it's not live conversation. So I can't address quite went is asking Randy Jordan a question when I'm playing his prerecorded audio I cannot speak for him. I think a little bit of what you're asking though, Dan is going to come up in the next portion of the audio the other. I really appreciate this national politics makes me crazy. I appreciate the chance that I have on this program to listen to local in regional politics. Thank you so much. Hey Ravon by Ravon. We're going to continue in with our audio now, and you'll get to hear from the chairman of the steering committee pack four the love the proposed Lubbock county expo center. Randy, Jordan, wait Wilkes opens a question. Randy Jordan responds in yours. Truly gets involved hit that now you ready three two one on knobs on his right day to change your terminology. I wouldn't go in their office. Sitting here reading the face of. Okay. I right back at it. Randi Jordan propagate committee chairman right here on the show expo center. Okay. So Randy anything that that last segment that you'd like to address of what Jay was talking about on the influence of outside money. In this in this. It's it's been perplexing to me. Okay. To to see the opposition. In the not not have a face to it. If you will all right or a group that would come out our steering committee. And man is the best somebody if I went through there when I list, the twelve people that have been actively involved for the last three or four months to to bring this to to where we are today, and those people have been publicized those people have been out there. You can call those guys you can call call Janet Mitchell, Dr Ted Mitchell's wife. Okay. New her new chancellor she's been with us from day. One call Janet and ask her about her feelings about the expo center. All of those people have been out there. So it's it's a little frustrating for me to to. If you've got an issue with something we're doing then tell us what it is not by so position or not by what if our them a good feeling tells me somebody's fixing to get hosed. Don't do that to me. Give me a prior to. Title solution to what you think is the potential problem. We've tried to answer that time and time again, we've tried to put a business plan out there that will do that. I can't guarantee to anybody. What what's going to happen in five years or ten years? A my crystal ball's not that clear when people said to me Randy. I just think that you're going to get this thing built and is not going to be there. And you're going to have to come back with your handout, and I told the lady this the other day group of ladies, they said something about them. And I said, so you're telling me, this is ABC. Rodeo is the primary fundraiser for the boys and girls clubs above as thirty five hundred kids, you won't meet a tell you what let me get those kids together, and you come and you look them in the eye, and you say kids, I'm sorry. I can't vote for this venue that could help you because I'm afraid it's going to hurt me in five years. Now, you look kids in that. And until that, and then people say I can't vote for this from okay Shen? Okay. You tell those kids. That you Kate vote for this because you felt like, and you think there was some kind of collusion about the location. You know, don't hold that expo centre. Don't hold something that could be really good for Lubbock county because we're we're gonna put it. It's the the accessibility the visibility. The affordability of that track of land is why we chose that Leno one of my original concerns was what was the county going to be obligated for if it was in some sort of different location as far as getting the services the road all that kind of stuff. And and again, I plotted you when you said, here's where we're looking because the accessibility is one of five lane road going south there. It's right at exit off to the loop. If there were any criticism, it'd be it's not close enough to some of the attractions in downtown. But you know, you have to make compromises when you Randy. If you could real quick you have addressed this before, but I'm getting some questions on what happens to this thing. Once it's paid off OS Gus great question. And this is the neat thing about the. V. New tax is that the venue tax is for that particular venue. The county cannot take that money and do anything with it side to go run and do something else. Absolutely. So we let's just dishes use this. Let's just say that we set this puppy up on a thirty year bond, the revenues. They're thirty years is paid for the people have said, okay, we don't we don't need another phase one or two or three or whatever. Let's just take this venue pay for it. And that been used paid for then if there's nothing else to do with that venue, and that'd been you has operated properly, Scott maintenance, so forth at tax goes away. It goes away. And also you look at the history of venue tax propositions that they pay off seventeen times faster than adver Lorne taxes. And I've said this to people sat countless numbers of time every tax that I pay in Lubbock county. I two exactly where that Texas going gasoline tax. I can't tell you what. Date does with that. They built roads and bridges and so forth. I can't tell you that this venue tax. I can tell you exactly where that's going because the state law side says the county has got to be very careful separate account audits that has got to be supervised in a very very meaningful. Overshot has got to be very strong. You know, a couple of things one whenever I went in in began to look at this. You know, I raised the new the concerns about rental car taxes initially that 'cause I don't like people finding out after the fact I thought it would not be helpful after the election for people to find out that out of nowhere on October five the president signed into law that said you can no longer tax rental cars at airports are permitted by airports four projects away from the airport. A lot of prepositions in without just said, right, but it's complicated. But I wanted to air that out. Now, those questions were dressed I was shown revenue numbers that project with new rooms coming online that the hot tax portion could absorb it. And they that ballot lane would was submitted. I believe August twenty two somewhere in there is the feds have to overlook all these ballots, make sure they're square so long. Before that was on in the law, or, you know, couple months before signed in the law this came about now what else I learned was how much the committee. You know? My question has been wiser not an intersection in Lubbock where you've got citizens tower where you've got. Broad intersection here citizens tower. You got a new buddy Holly hall, and you look over to the east and you've got a new expo center. I mean that would be yes. That won the world out there in so I began to look into and they've done exhaustive. It's been it sounds to me exhaustive. They tried over and over again to put it at the fairgrounds. Fair board decided no they didn't want their prerogative to do. Absolutely. Is in that even a deal. I've heard that there's a deal from that was made that you know, you run it for your twelve fifteen days a year that you use that property and will maintain it. And we'll use it the rest of the days of the year. Still no all I have to say this, which doesn't make any sense to me. But nevertheless, but coming back around to this Patty Jones thing I mean that they went through in. I heard from this land owner in this. Well, they're thinking about buying Milan. Will their thing about. Obama land. They thought about multiple locations. And this is the location that worked in, you know, to me, it seems like it's a lot a lose for Patty Jones that I mean who wants property right next to that in for people who say, well, she's just going to make money off of it. Once once commercial entity will you're assuming then that it's gonna be a profitable big deal. You've just said there won't be. So which way is. Okay. Fair enough, you know jail on those lands. Not one word has been said about the strap store on the corner. Nobody's told rocks at the straps because they could look benefit stand to profit from people. Photo rocks at deal done word. Now, we're has anybody say anything about about some of the other areas around there? There's going to be profitable. Now. Just Patty Joan, well, let's get to some of these tax. And of course, here's one from Charles. It says, well, Mr. Jordan example of the board of governors is useful anyone who's dealt with him. Sees billing department knows that when there's a billing problem. It is a problem the county. Commissioners have not been able to fix the problem. How can we expect a dirt arena to be managed any better than you emcees billing department? Not familiar with the Bill in department. I just tell you that. We'll try to have oh we did bring up the idea that county board and how it's covered the the committee would be similar to today. Exactly. Because we're we've got a combination people are concerned that okay? You've got this nonprofit this gives going to run loose out here, and they're going to not manage your staying property and so forth. Then you've got other people that don't want to county to run it. There's got to be a mix you're about five hundred one c three correct? Which means you have to file a nine nine absolutely year. Which means anybody can look and subsequently where your expensive. That's why I would hope that we would have competent people. And I'm not to say that. I I don't know anything about the billing department of you say, I'm trying to make the example that from a oversight and a management deal that that's similar to what we think would happen with this. Okay. To another text. Let's see they put a name on this me. She see a name on. It says outside money or not placing the new facility right across the street from patties land that has been for sale and still for sale is perceived to be conflict perception is reality move the thing and people will support it, by the way city water infrastructure was installed along Kent avenue. The east and west street just north of the expo this past summer, again seems to convenient. But thanks for what you do. Oh, bryan. His name was Brian that put that on that text. Ryan where do you want us to put it? Well, I the only thing that I could say about that is we had the mayor on the show yesterday. We didn't get into the experts center a lot, but we do the weekly Thursday with the mayor the city of Lubbock ponied up offered up one hundred acres on each bit meeting. Nineteenth street. Newsouth McLean food, but y'all didn't like that location again again, accessibility. It it. It doesn't flow. Also, there's a major power line that goes right down through the middle of it. There was you know, what has to move that. And what we've heard from time and time again, we won't is to where successful two things and the east loop is would be a destination type type, but you build it out there. And then people have got to go. It's you know, the location we talked about a mile of twenty seven you've got north loop. You got north university. You got four lanes five lanes. You've got you can leave there and go north you leave there and go south it just excess ability of so we looked really hard at that. He's not in t- street hard, not to we had a gentleman offers one hundred acres at new deal. That's really set up pretty cool. I mean the way that that you would flow in the way that you could do that. But but group felt like that that was too far out from Lubbock from love. Yeah. And the same way with east night teeth that on these on these Lou nothing against these side. I'm not saying that at all, but that became a destination. Rather than flowing in the natural. Because people said we'd love for it to be close to twenty seven love for it to be close to Texas Tech. We'd love to be close to motels and restaurants, and so forth. So we try to compensate that in may and trying to make all that happen. You know, the only thing missing there some tells for sure where the location is now that's where it's going. If passing that's worth going to be built you haven't. You haven't finalized the deal Landau? We've got a verbal verbal also if not it it could change it could and way to core, certainly certainly. When people kept saying, we've got to have a location, certainly there could be things that could change that. But right now that we don't foresee that offer on the cell for this. There's the lead of the story it could change. I mean for those who are up in arms about the location, the whole thing in this is what I said this last time we discussed on the show whenever we write lampkin, and what does on your show, right? That this is all subjective to the passing to the county. Commissioners once it passes, then they've been authorized to do this. So we're all speaking like those pictures, you see are just concepts jets. That's not architectural plans right on what the expo the pro expo group has put out in this all goes back to the Commissioner's court. So to the texts earlier change the location and people be okay with it. Well, vote for it. And then tell your commit. Where are you thinking? You know, I think that's an important point. Because as you pointed out multiple times here, you went about as far as you could possibly go without the citizens giving it a thumbs up or thumbs down and maybe build it where the municipal Coliseum was. Kidding? This case had just heard groans from the top. Lord scuba Knicks on the line for you. President. This is something I want to remind the listeners is that is that what we have asked for in a step by step is for the for the people of Lubbock county to vote to initiate, this this hotel occupancy tax that that's what the votes about that gives us the income stream where then we can do these other things, but two people were so adamant about what's it gonna cost? What's it gonna look like what this? So we had to had to put something something to vigil. And it doesn't mean that we through this together. Because a lot of soul-searching. I can't tell you the hours that I have said were Stephen fog and MWR architects to two we knew we with our travels over the state talking to thirteen different venues in the state of Texas, talking all these people we had an idea of what we wanted in terms of Rena how big how much area and so forth. So you take that. And then we. Knew what the exhibit hall. We wanted that to be we knew this. So we we take all of that and say, okay, what could this look like and so- hours and hours and hours of time spent talking about that then when you start talking about drawings you're talking about spending hundreds of thousands of dollars seriously when you get down to plans specs sofa. We didn't have a kind of money. We we were under scrambling goes strata production. I wish I'd had. They're all. Solely in-kind contribution. He'll be here. So if somebody if somebody has got a location that meets those criteria, please tell us please tell us we have searched high and low we felt like from the information that we had from the visits that we've had that this would fit that criteria. I think we have a phone. Let's go the phones. Good morning. Welcome in the show. Hello, go ahead. Good caller. Yes. Hey, my name's Chris artist. And I'm just wanted to say that I've changed my mind on both. I was against it. When I first heard about it. But I will say the foreign Mr. Jordan and corley and seeded and Slayton a few a couple of weeks ago. And change my mind. So I'll be voting for it now, and you have not early voted yet. So you're still you're still read. That's good. That's good. Let says the systems working. Well, rally voting voting day. We've got a voter out there looking for facts and trying to make up their mind based on what they're hearing. And listen to the fact to Jennifer comment earlier, she feels bad because her parents now after they've learned the truth that they feel bad. They voted against it. They didn't know the real deal on it. Right. Chris j Leeson what what was the point? What were the what? Why were you opposed? What did you buy on? First of all was the. Could be privately funded. I mean people wanted to probably raise the money and do it have added. I think the way it was pitched the fact that it was going to be no property taxes, which is. The money generated. It will come back on property owners to fit the Bill. The second part is is when they had it. No government involvement of the troll. That told me we'd be issuing fifty million dollar. Blink fit to accountable group, which I was uncomfortable with somewhat change. How did those chain the forum? Here at the form that changes my points. All right. One was can't remember this Mr. Jordan or Mr Collins said they wouldn't go to court. Commissioners corn until they the their ten million dollar in down and in the Bank. Secondly is the Commissioner was still have to issue the bonds. And now with news Michener's coming in don't know, if it'll be quarterly and see or hawks earned care what any or a combination that will be having a new court that I believe. We'll have some accountability not not necessarily conflict. But will, you know, hold the grouping accountable. Hey, we got this this and appoint the bullet wouldn't be it wouldn't be just a prison. Christopher may. I may jump in here for a second. That was my concern initially early on when I had Randy on the show weeks ago that was well. Okay. So what happens after the bonds paid for who controls this committee? I was concerned about another a terrible example of the dark money that flows through the south plates. Fairground that kind of stuff I would not be four right? Right. That's where I was. But those questions all got answered wait if I'm not much Chris. Thank you. I appreciate and it was good to meet you that formed. Appreciate you coming out way. This is what we have asked. Everybody to do make an informed decision. Take the information that you've got and the facts in front of you and take that don't don't rely own accusations are false statements or the audience take the information that you've got this is a process. I wish I had everything exactly what is going to be. I don't we've got some really good ideas. We got some really good. Thanks, chris. Thank you for coming to listen. Because that's what I've asked. Everybody to do to make an informed decision. I've I've a forty six presentations in the last sixty days, Tim Collins has made out on how many Brit all the groups in town. And we have made it a point to tell people. We're not. Trying to sell you on this project. We're trying to tell you about this project. This is what we know. This is the things we've done we've tried to lay out a business plan that will that will answer the questions that you've had and to facilitate, but at the end of the day, it does something that Colonel mentioned it while ago, we have a need and we've done our dead level. Best to try to bring something that's affordable with accountability and so forth. Chris nike. I appreciate you for for coming up reshape your comments. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. All right. You know, the thing about I keep on hearing people say. Well, they can be privately funded. It can be providence. Mom responses. How much what check you writing? It can be who's who's going to write that check. I think Jay where that comes from is because of the performing arts center at again, Tim Collins is involved with that project as well. And he's done a great work with not not. No. I mean that's been an amazing challenge on the performing arts center. This story in the paper this with them. But that is an anomaly that building is an anomaly whenever you look at me, powders and counties. Right. You can't find many structures. Like, no, they're always owned by the city or owned by the county in. That's the downside. I mean, the buddy Holly holy. Tim Collins was able to get that done along with major donations and things like that which is of mazing feet in. So you turn around, and you say, we'll why if Tim Collins could duplicate that Tim is the example here take him, the we'll make him the whipping boy, but Tim Tam. Listen to go pill. Make it rain this downtown one Tim college do all private money. Yeah. That's understandable. But it assumes that the entities from which Tim Collins, raise that money have endless supplies of money understand some of that money got lost in the whole raider fiasco, which is a whole nother issue. What do you got j Leeson? What do you got quick check books out? What are you live? I got to plane. No, they have one. That's right. Colonel Lewis you've got an f sixteen. I'm not afraid to use. All right. We'll be right back. Bottom of the hour. We'll come back just minutes. Stick around. We've got plenty to go right here on the show, our special guests this morning, rainy. Jordan profit committee, chairman Lubbock Expos. Hey, Jay, west, Texas Leeson plane, you some prerecorded. From Wade Wilkes program here on AM five eighty lot more to get into as we finish up about sixteen minutes left to the well, eighteen minutes left on the program stick right with this here. I think it's content that people especially in Lubbock need to hear maybe outside of Lubbock wooden joy as well right here on AM five eighty be back about ninety seconds from now one of the pick back up with our program here gonna run a little bit over today in because on what you hear the rest of audio. We're talking about the Lubbock expo center and Lubbock county expo center. Excuse me, always say that the wrong way. But it's a classic case of some nebulous. Protected. You don't know their identity who is opposing this. Tony renteria. I know you love hearing your name on air. But why are you such a coward? Why can't you come on in talk about why you're running the organization opposing this? What's your plan? Tony wrench RIA. What do you plan on doing in? Why are you such a big shot? Tony wrench RIA. Yeah. Exactly. Thank you Daniel. And why can't you state exactly what your opposition is in? Why you're the treasurer of this rough shot campaign against the Lubbock county expo center because it it sounds slimy. It sounds like you don't want people to know. Yeah. You don't want to know a lot. You don't want people to know. Why can't she be more transparent? If you're a part of an accountability group. I don't understand it to me in. This is a problem for the Lubbock county Republican party is that the people who are most involved. It seems to me are the most adamant in campaigns like this. But there's nobody who wants to come on the show nobody who wants to go wait Wilkes his show. My show any other show. They just want to hide behind ads and say, well, it's your tone, your tone is supreme new white guys your tones, the problem your tone in the tax. There's no wonder why. CJ Hargrove pulled out of your pack because you guys are cowards. Because you guys are. No, nothing's in. You are cavemen so far is progress in policies concerned, and I've got to stop talking now because we need to end up the program, but Tony Renna RIA. May be Carl is it whoever else class a coward a hundred percent down the line? And I'm going to call you out. Now, Magas you guys. It's unbelievable to me and. I think the everybody ought to vote for the expo center. Not based on Birch you of the committee. But you guys are the great a jackass cowards that you are. And you are one hundred percent, you are you don't win it. Engage. These questions you win a hide behind in-kind contributions and loans from outside of Lubbock, but you don't win. Engage. The issues are going to take a deep breath. We're going to continue on with audio from this morning. Tony Renteria return. My phone call. I bet you won't continue on prerecorded audio. Wade will this morning on his program? Three two one. Here. It comes just wait a second. This question short on time to suggest after you're done. Okay. And let me ask you this way. I believe the measures gonna pass a personally believe it's going to pass. So it passes we get the results Tuesday election days Tuesday. At that point. What happens? Okay. So let's let's it happens it passes. Now, what do you still still want public input? Go. Absolutely. And we're still going to hold meetings, and we're still going to figure it out. They ought to work doing renditions. That's really starts. And that's when we find out again way. What we've asked is the people to create an income stream. That's all they see is. We haven't asked the Commissioner's court for a dime for construction for operation. They we just ask for an income stream. Once we know what that is in once we know that's been there. Then we can really go to work we've had to lay some of this basic groundwork, just to satisfy the the the the public about the what to wear and so forth. Then the Rourke is really gotta come on November the seventh. We're going grab a shovel. And we're going to start throwing dart as what we're going to I'm teasing. Of course, there's things that we've got two steps that we've got to take a lot of work after we after the vote. Okay. Good morning. It's going to pass. Good. Good. Good more. Welcome to the show. Maybe oh, I'll support this project, and I would have already voted for it. But those one source of really big aggravation as far as I'm concerned, you know, city all up the saw decide that we need to third on the call Sam auditorium. Really been active in trying to get up to promote this. But they will so. Real sources of aggravation. I have is why has the full board rejected coming on board with this. I mean, it just seems like a natural that they would get involved in this test stuff down out there and clean up. All our photographs. Does they ever give you a reason why they didn't want to be in- involved in this thing, quite honestly with the footprint? They were talking about with an arena, this is and with the with the ancillary buildings that we're talking about the fairgrounds not big enough. And and we've looked at that we've talked to those guys, and it's just not big enough. And so I wish I could tell you in my heart hearts, and that's where we started felt like from what Jay said there wanna go. And and of said the same thing I've set up there, and look he got buddy Holly hall. You've got these it would be ideal location. But it's not big enough. Okay. Well, I if if that's the case then all back off a little bit because I've been out of shape because they haven't been on this thing. Well, and I can't answer for the fair board. And I can't say those things I just know that that that's what I know in from from what we've been able to ask your time because we sure felt like it was a place, but I I k- speak and understand. We're not trying to be the fair don't wanna be the fair, but trying to move something forward that would be answer. Larry will be helpful to the city of love, you know, how MAURICE well, let me tell you for just a second. In rainy, you can come in on this or not. But for folks who wonder what is we're pretty deep in the weeds, right here, local politics. The the contention is understand it from the fair board is the fair is a five one c five and it that's an agriculture based exemption in they maintain that exemption by giving agriculture's scholarship agriculture-based scholarships and the deduction here is that the fair board even though nobody's heard from him on record is it fair boards concerned that the expo center could jeopardize their father onc- five status. That's okay. For. Loving. That's that's the context here. And that. Affairs wills? Don't like Randy, Jordan. It's. They're concerned. I'll tell you. You know, it you talked about this practice going against just this thing and trying to debate it. Aggravation too. But some of the guys it's on this thing, they're solid as a rock. You guys have a good day. Thanks. I'm not a political consultant. I just play one on the radio. Okay. Over the weekend. This would be my suggestion. Randy Jordan is that you guys go get all your pictures that you've taken of all these events centers that you've gone insane of the meetings. You've had of the back porch keystone light meetings. You've had all the all the activity had especially going on the road put together montage of I've been everywhere man over the weekend and put it up to say to the to the concern that do Dylan shit due diligence has not been achieved here. That's that's what political consultant j Lisa until you. And if you stay in a Holiday Inn express you today rollers will do that. Right. Kim. Okay. She's a consultant in her own, right. Still don't be mad Kim. I'm trying to get radio j stand trying to undermine you watch TV this weekend. L good. All right. Is there going to be a Bob Duncan commercial? That's what I want. The world if it was okay. Good morning. Welcome to the show. One way or the Randy good morning. Brett lampkin. I just want everybody to know that as a as a committee. We really want to think of likley Randy doors, grabbing this thing about a board. When it was it's the stage and just driving us guys for grew guys and gals together to get to this end date where we're at. Now, we got a great chance of having a great Priscilla for our city ready. Thank you very much publicly are tired group. A? Brett, thank you. Let me ask you Bret. And since you're on the phone with us, and this could be kind of a wrap up question this morning. Let's take listless look at it. From this angle. I think the proposition is gonna pass what if it doesn't? What's next? I'm gonna tell you what Randy Jordan CitiGroup men in this past Monday that asset very question. We can't think about that. Buck name art goal right now is we're thinking about November the seventh and eighth and assumed the for kind of you know, try to put our focus on the positive input. And I hope you can accept that as an answer right now. Right now, what you still want to think about well again. I just we'll see. I mean, you know, the telltale sign I mean, obviously, Tuesday, we'll know come Wednesday morning on the program will Colonel listen, I will be talking about it. If can you donate your bunker the land I could. Yeah, they wanna. Look at it. Maybe in a future use. Yeah. I got twenty five acres so. Yeah, we couldn't twenty-five bunkers. Is it coincidence? I think. Yeah. But nevertheless, not but that's reasonable to to ask that question again. But, you know, come Wednesday if it has failed. I'll be because I don't I think the spirit of it all and I think look the community needs is something like this. We didn't need it ninety. We needed it ninety seven when I was against it, then but back then it was needed to be needed to be in rightfully so Texas, Tex responsibility. That's what brought us the United supermarkets arena. We didn't have it then. But but wait would go ahead. We're good, wait. We're gonna have he'll love is four is looking at how we've put this together with the hot tax. Yeah. We're just behind the times in using this hot tax to built the cities that if you look at if you look at these other communities Angelo, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas Fort Worth for Wego or or major stock shows, and then all the area locations. Andrew. Level. And these these towns ever ELO Clovis, they're using this format to build a really nice facility to promote their their area in in bring people to and we just we just haven't done it. And I I hope to see somebody else got along with another need from our community and use this tax Bill, so well my input. Okay. I appreciate that Britain. Thank you for calling in and coming out here in taking on me. And Jay in the Colonel last time around about about that rental car tax of. But, but, but I will tell you that if it fails the only alternative there's two alternatives here one you have to wait for another general election, which is two years out, which is really a tough hill to climb kicking to counter to our number two. You gotta go and do what Tim Collins is done and raise private money, which is almost next to impossible in light of what's been happening with the. Forming arts center would be also very difficult at best. And this is what we've tried to do is a combination of private public. We have with the endowment setting over here. And with the with the tax to do to do this combination to make that Finn. I've been asked over the last months lot of people. Breath for the call. What we're trying to do is pay things forward. They were people in my early days that that move things forward that that did things. So that we could we could do that. And that's what we're doing. We're trying to get things better for the next generation. And and that's what's all about. And and that's what that's what our group. That's what our goal was been as what it's been not so serving but to to do something would be good move Lubbock Ford. You know, I kind of liken it to like, I wouldn't have around or paying attention. At least I was around, but definitely not paying attention because as like. Junior high or high school but in the nineties. Yeah. With the science spectrum. Yeah, you're a young man the quasi looking at me. Wait, the the science spectrum in the opposition to it at the time. I believe it was hot tax as well. As a dad of four young kids. You know, we don't have bathrooms in the parks. So you can only say the part for so long right in every once in a while, there's bad weather day in Lubbock every once in a while in, you know, venues for kids in Lubbock, it least, you know, whenever they were younger looks really exploded over last four or five years main event, except I don't like to take my kids in there because they'd come out zombies with all the video games on. Class for them to have an educational based video model. Charlie's four he wants go sign spectrum every day in. I think that's the case on a lot of homes, but there were people who pose assigned spectrum. What would be without son spectrum, you know, in so far is moving forward. I'm sure that there was opposition group against twenty-seven at one time. I'm Dan, I'm sure there was definitely the loon. I wasn't around then, but Lupe was but the loop the loop was really one of those. Well, I mean, it it it forward thinking, I get that. I just know that that there's still a lot of people out there. And so may have voted in this round of elections that remember that that the term multipurpose arena as a bad term because the nineties it really what that was a sales tax deal. It was going to you know, we're gonna we're gonna raise all, and it was I the reason the main reason I was against it was because a location which we've talked about a lot on this show with your your this endeavor location was off the tech campus. It was going to be a north university. Maybe even the same area you're looking at and it was going to be protect basketball. And I thought that's outrageous that aims to be on Texas, Tech campus. I mean that was my big hang-up with it. Not to the fact that didn't think we did the city of Lubbock needed it. Of course, we do the municipal auditorium at that point. And that's over twenty years ago. Head already outlived its purpose twenty years ago. It was already done and tech needed to be. Involved in that. And here we have the United supermarkets arena, which is fabulous. But they needed to get corporate sponsorship technically to be directly involved and not put it on the back of tax Pentagon. That's that's the lesson that we learned yet. Understood right and watt support at this time -solutely. Absolutely. So Randy Jordan, everybody. Appreciate that. Jay anything else? Well and crew of referenced England other side of Texas dot com. You can see the the report I wrote on so far as opposition group. And all the documents are attached there for the folks there strata PC in Roswell New Mexico to check out we're gonna lay some of this audio safter new on the show to for folks. Like to hear it again. Yeah, you can catch it on Wilkes media. Dial PM this whole show will be posted up there. Wilkes media dot com. Doing that. You finally do I know direction to the record you said Jay service to the community and everything else. And you said me and the Colonel not so much well on bond commit. Okay. All right. Yeah. Three. Let me clarify. We have not served on a bond committee. But my point I know how hard it is to do this from five oh one C three basis. And I absolutely applaud Randy and his entire committee for what they're doing. Wait till you again, you the first asked me to come out into to lay the groundwork nurse, and LA the things we've talked about today, we didn't know then. And so by the the questions in the in the concerns, and so forth, we've been able to to walk through this step by step. So thank you, wait Wilkes. And I appreciate your thank you for saying that you're going to support thing. And appreciate everybody out there that a stepped up, and whether it be on Facebook or Twitter or whatever to to support it. So we're do then good morning. Welcome to sell real quick. Yes. My wife, and I talked about that we voted for having good day. Thank you. Hey, randy. Appreciate that. Again. We thank you so much for all the shows you've done out here, we've been very open and honest with your answers, we've asked a lot of questions as you said the first show, we did you didn't have an answer for me on a couple of those questions, and we talked about it after the program this questions have since been answered in so good luck to you in the committee on property again. It's the bottom of the ballot early voting last day today and then election day next Tuesday. So if you have not voted in participated, get out and vote and Wade thank you for mentioning that because people if you own that ballot. You've got to scroll down. And let me say this. You got to props down there. And both of them are worthy of a four vote the St. bond very well thought through we needed it needs to be there. The expo centers air if you walk into that ballot box and you hit are in cast ballot. You will not be voting for the propositions. So I'm not telling you, whether you are the great Petar. But this grow down to the bottom. Go four and four detonate gas balance. Definitely put our ran out. Again, again, just if you if you boat a straight ticket Bashir scroll down it's imperative that you do that. Otherwise, you will not have that opportunity to vote force. Well, we did. And thanks. We did we did. We certainly did do that. That's for sure. Randy, jordan. Thank you so much. Good luck. We'll be watching the returns on Tuesday as I'm no you will be and all of our audience here on AM five eighty we. Appreciate your time, sir. I have a wonderful day. Okay. So that's where we closed out this morning. I thought it was just important for light. And we see our demographics a lot of you and Dallas in Houston. You listen to the show. And I really appreciate that. But this is something local in Lubbock in for me, the larger the the reason I aired all that out is that I think that Tony Renna RIA in. This opposition group are cowards and not just cowards but damn cowards for not coming on any engaging issues over the slice week. And what? They'll say invariably is won't let your tone it. Tell me more about tone. Tell me more about principles Renna RIA, tell me more dare I say Carl is it tell me more about tone. It can you run a campaign that you've run under the the moniker of accountability Lubbock taxpayers for accountability. And you won't engage. Any media? You won't answer any questions you'd say, oh, you want to about these guys. You know, cronyism all the stuff, you laid out all this slander that you've laid out about petty Jones of Lubbock county Commissioner, but you won't come on engage issues. L care what it is. I don't care if it's a local hardcore conservative because to me conservative the derivative a conservative is to conserve to conserve and the more. I. I see of hardcore conservatives in this state. It doesn't have anything to do with conserve certainly in Lubbock. It's not conserving place. It's giving away a place, and what these guys that they aren't able to come on and say what they're all turn to the biz tells me on to hear about them. And that's why M your resident prairie populous in the state because these guys are full of things I can't say on the radio without risking if C C fine. Just drives like we're all concerned. There are more aborigines in Lubbock county, then there are hard line liberals. So where are you Mr. conservative? Where are you? Why can't you answer questions you won't answer questions because you're working in somebody's stood in? I to be honest. The people that I hear that are the most conservative just riff here for a moment. In an extended edition of other side of Texas. The people here declare themselves to be the most conservative are the people that middle income wages, and they're just looking for a little more revenue. And I don't care what that sounds like. That's the damn truth. They they can't do for themselves. They can't get out there and put in the sweat Niffer. So they want to go to bat for other ores is. So the next time you hear somebody bolstering how conservative they are. Why don't you look at their campaign finance reports in here while they're allowed to be so conservative or why don't you look up their tax returns and figure out why they're so conservative in? I think that you'll just roll your eyes at the end of the day, it conservative means conserving place. And I honestly they're good. People can disagree on the Lubbock county expo center, but people who can't disagree with me or people who are in the back pockets of interest like strata production company, an energy company in Roswell like, Mr.. Tony Renna RIA is so come on show your face Tony show, your face others. You can't show it because you won't. In that that's local politics. But that goes beyond. Just I really really grow tired of these groups and these principles Mike the aforementioned principle of the Lubbock tax payers four accountability, they won't come on air and being gauged directly. But they win the through potshots through commercials that are funded by other agencies that they can't fund them. So oh, we'll pay for private. Well, I bet Renner area. Can't write a check for that. I know Karl is it can't write a check for that. So who's writing a check for it? They just want you to be against it. Sick and tired of it. That's your prairie populism feel. Big election coming up get out in vote. Go vote. Go vote. Go vote. Yeah. Close up this edition, and we'll be with you next week got to get home. Gotta get home. Great family, above average, dinner, raven buddies. We'll see in next edition here on other side of Texas.