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Call To The Legends: Pam Ward & Carolyn Peck

Around the Rim

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Call To The Legends: Pam Ward & Carolyn Peck

"They. On the ramp with let China Robinson. Basketball. It is your favorite time of the week is your ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. It's also your favorite month of the year. It's march. Yes. Maybe can I get some applause. Yeah. Give me some. Okay there. She is. Bet. Other boys is my fantastic in fabulous, producer Rica faucet. Bradsby? I'm your host let China Robinson. And we're here to talk women's basketball. It's an important time of year for our sport. Because there's more parody in the game that we have ever seen. We don't know who's gonna win the national championship. So don't ask us. We also don't know who's going to be in Tampa. But that's a good thing. It's gonna make for an exciting March in right now this week we are kicking off conference tournament time. I personally at the ACC tournament covering for Ray com. Our special guest today on the show Caroline pack and pay a ward or at the SEC tournament. Big ten is happening. Pac twelve will be starting soon. Big twelve will be starting soon. What else to Riga, whatever you? I'll be at American F lead at conferences weekend. So Rica will be at the American but they're ton. Everything's going on. Yes. Everything's going on. So we are going to have our conference tournaments special. We know that you loved when we did that last year where we had different analysts on to talk about the conference tournaments. They were covering we're going to do that next week whether a conference tournament is ending or starting we will recap them all in our show. But for this week, we are catching up with Pam ward. And Carolyn peck and talking about what they've seen this season. We're going to talk about some injuries, and how that could impact conference tournaments in NCAA seating. And also though some of those on the bubble. We will talk a little bit about player of the year who everyone's leaning towards even though the field is stacked we will talk just a little bit. Also, just about a barrage of variety of players that panic Caroline have seen along the way so dip into a. A little bit of everything. But definitely into the SEC where they are covering this week. It was that we're going to move into the first corner. First quarter, though, the NCAA had their second and final reveal. I don't know where I was. I thought there were three reveals maybe they cut it down to two this year. I need to look into that. Maybe it's my bad math. But the NCAA did their final reveal of the top sixteen seeds for the NCAA tournament. And basically what that is. The selection committee says if the tournament started today, these would be our top sixteen seeds, and the reason why that's important because the top sixteen seeds gets to host the first and second rounds so one seeds, according to the committee in order Baylor. Louisville Notre Dame Yukon to scenes, Oregon, Mississippi State, Stanford, Iowa three scenes NC state, Maryland, Oregon state, South Carolina. For Seve Miami. I will stay in tune new foresees this week the Syracuse orange in Texas A&_M. So that's a seating you'll have to go and look in terms of where everyone is we're not going to get into the regional setup right now. But it was much more balanced. Even Charley cream said on our on our broadcast on Monday that it was much more balanced three. I think we might have some recap for that. Let's let's play that from Monday. So Charlie when you see this reveal we've already seen one already this season. What stands out to you? Great sixteen. We had a little bit of a criticism. The last time three weeks ago this one nothing really to point to. Critique the interesting things, I think you alluded to Maria Louisville in Chicago Notre Dame and Portland as the two overall in the three overall. Now what happens in the tournament? I think determines whether those two teams stay in those regions. If they even stay number one seeds, or if they flip flop in maybe Notre Dame gets to go to Chicago. But then Louisville would be the team in Portland. I think that's going to be the number one thing to watch during championship. We. Okay. So maybe I am going to go into the regional six Charlie went there. Here are the regions as were laid out by the selection committee. It was Portland Notre Dame one seed Oregon to South Carolina, three Syracuse four Greensboro region Baylor one Iowa to NC state three Texan saying in four Chicago region. Louisville one Stanford to Maryland three Iowa State four in Albany region uconn won Mississippi State to Oregon state three Miami four what Charlie looted tea is that some people are surprised at Notre Dame is not in Chicago in. Instead, it's horrible Notre Dame beat Louisville head to head. Notre Dame has the number one strength of schedule. They did lose to an unranked North Carolina team without Jackie young who just finished her season with a back to back. Triple doubles. Do. I think Notre Dame should be in Chicago. Oh, I think that they should be the higher number one seat. So yes, I think they should be in Chicago already based on what I just shared Louisville has had a fantastic season. But you know, what I'm okay with them digging it out in the ACC tournament. I'm okay would say whoever makes it through the ACC, which is the number one conference RPI right now, which is on fire coming into the tournament of your girl. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with saying, you know, what whoever should get that number one seed earn. It earn its Asia was announced ACC player of the year. There's lots of you know, just awesome things happening earn your earn Chicago. But I will say this in won't admit this. Maybe they will. I think some coaches I going out west because there's fewer distractions not they don't want to win games in front of their fans. But how do they? I think it's all bad if you wind up out west, and you get to focus in on you and your team and not a bunch of hoopla. I mean, that's just me. I'm saying you don't even nine a distraction. If you end up out west not having to play organ. Because that that she too. But let's not forget what have the last year to be good now to bring up bad things for the Oregon ducks fan. But Notre Dame went out there and left the west coast on their way to the final four after beating Oregon. But can I ask you a question though? So with it possibly coming down to whoever wins, the ACC I'm going to go on a limb as I'm sure most of us will say it will come down to you between Louisville Notre Dame winning the ACC tournament. But don't you think that just provides even more of the parody that we've talked about, you know, throughout the course of this year so far with having that question of you know, what it looks like now is gearing not guaranteed. I think in the past what we've seen from looking at the polls we've kind of been able to stay spot on with what it will look like win selection Monday comes. But I think the way that they've balanced it right now actually just adds to that -ffected. We have really no idea what's really going to happen and women's basketball now. And I think I. Oh, yeah. I like it. I like it, you know. But we still got, you know, make some guests is trying to get the opinion out there. But I agree. It's been fun. Because who wants to have all the answers, not me. I mean, I think I do. But yeah, definitely don't have all the answers. So we'll keep our eyes on the ACC. That's the day from the reveal. But for now, let's move into our second quarter because we have some very special guests reading here from. Second quarter inside the huddle. All right basketball fan. So I have to tell you that I'm already like way too excited for my next two guests, I don't even know how to describe our relationship, but we're definitely all family. They're two of my favorite people. They probably know more about me in my, you know, my weird personality on my whatever been most people because he spent so much time together. But please welcome to this show ESPN analyst and former national championship head coach a Purdue, Carolyn peck. Hey. We we gotta get to you. You want your own go ahead. Good to be with you, China, a you'll get her own love. Okay. Now for my next guest. And I'm just telling you all right now, I'm shocked even have her on the podcast because she keeps them pretty low profile. I do think she's a little bit of a creeper on social media. I can't find her anywhere. But I think she does at least, you know, look every once in a while, please join me in welcoming ESPN play by play in the first woman play by play announcer, a football, and they should broadcasting. Pam ward. Hey, I'm only doing this. Because I thought we were talking only about your personal life. No. All. Conversation. Okay. Okay. But what the show I'm super side. Have you guys? Now, you are going to be covering the SEC, and you're already there watching some games in preparation for the semifinals and the finals, correct? So we'll. We'll start Thursday Thursday Friday, Saturday Sunday. Oh, you start Thursday. Wow. We get a heavy dose. Okay. So what's happening right now in in the SEC that you think is of no, I know one thing that stands out to me on the ticker. I saw her that kid Carter is out with an apparent finger injury. Which could be huge for Texas. Am a team that's trying to hold onto what looks like a hosting opportunity based on our last NCAA reveal. So what what's happening there with Kennedy Carter, and what do you think has that impacted saying them? We're going to watch them practice tomorrow. And just see you know, how coach players going to finagle. You know, the thing that they have is the ability to defend, and no, you know, depending on who it ends up that they're playing defense is going to be key and Shimba Washington their point guard who had to play point when you remember when Kennedy Carter was suspended against Lamar young and Washington one used to be in on the court without Kennedy Carter heaven Kennedy available in that kind of was debacle. They had way too many turnovers. But now she's gained more experience and more confident. But you know, where does all the offense come from? You know, Taylor wealth is stepped up her scoring. But I don't know how you feel a whole like Kennedy Carter. Yeah. Injury is concerned to it is she had surgery on the finger. So it's definitely it's not a minor injury. And what they're saying is that she will definitely miss the tournament, and we'll be back for the NC double A tournament. But as you mentioned right now, they're top foresee, they get the host. But if she is unavailable to play there's no way they should be a top four see it. So it's it's really a sticky situation. But she she injured it enough that it needed to have surgery. Can't brings up a great point Pam, and we've gone back and forth with this whole debate about how the committee looks at injuries ri- 'cause North Carolina. I'm here at Greensboro the ACC tournament. They could have an issue where Stephanie watts has been out the last few games. They're different Carolina team without her. Katie Lou did not play in yukon's regular season finale because something happened to her back. I don't know she's gonna return and so it's always in Notre Dame. Even you know, we're having a conversation about how they're weighing their loss without. Jackie young, and you can say the same for many teams across the board who may have had a player without that did play because of injury. So how that affects where they are. But I think you're absolutely right in that Texas am without Kennedy Carter is a different team. Right. So why should they be given the advantage from a seating standpoint win? What we've seen them without Kennedy is not very good or not as good. We'll say that we talked to Charlie cream who is here in Greenville, South Carolina and teams are supposed to let the committee know injury issues. Just so that they can see better. And we people who are old like me. Remember, what happened when Stanford was a number one way back when and they lost the number sixteen Harvard, and they were down a couple of players with ACL's. And and since then the committee is putting more than emphasis on I guess honesty. I guess as far as injuries are concerned. But coaches teams, of course, knows that that's going to affect seeding and hosting. So it's really sort of. An interesting issue. It is. But this is how I feel what she Lieutenant is that teams should be seated based on where they earned to be not based on the prediction of where you think they can get because you're punishing team because a player got hurt if they've earned to be there and aren't able to be successful. Then, you know, but they earn the right to be where they are. I don't think as for an injury. Okay. So I agree with that. With the exception of this. This is where I think it's didn't disadvantage for the team. Because if they give Texas saying, but I'm just used as they give them before. See, right. Then they're gonna have to play a team that's going to be. Well, no. I would okay now. No, no, no. Actually, I'm thinking about their wrong. Okay. So I get what you're saying. So you're saying that they should be able to have the competitive advantage against a lower seed if they've earned to be there. I get that. But they're not going to be the same team. That's where I struggle with it. If a pointer hurt, you don't know there have been situations where the SIMS man has been able to come in and the coach adjust toward the team is able to hang on. And the thing is is that are you putting him in a position where they possibly win game. Or it's a tournament. In order win the championship. You've got a there's a possibility could play anybody. It's just how you start. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a fair point. I just I do think that how you earn it though. So they earn that position with Kennedy Carter, I agree with you, China, right? They would not have been team especially someone like Kennedy Carter who is one of the best. What are the best players in the country? Okay. So we'll move on from the injury bug. What else at the SEC? I mean is there a team, obviously, South Carolina and Mississippi State played, you know, at the end of the regular season for chance with South Carolina to get part of the SEC crown that didn't happen. Tear mccowan has been outstanding SEC player of the year. Anybody else knock off South Carolina, or or Mississippi State is there's someone else we should be watching. We will you do remember that earlier this year, Missouri beat Mississippi State in the regular season. So we're coming into the SEC tournament. And there's no team that's undefeated that walked to the table. So I think that there's a lot of parody in the ACC. And I think there's a potential for few upset, and it may be somebody that unexpected to win it all. Kitchen ac-? Do we think Tennessee could go on Iran? Do you think Tennessee needs to go on a run to make it to the NCAA tournament? Yes. I think they need to go on a run. And no, I don't think they will. We're about to go out and watch them practice, which would be really interesting because they as everyone knows. I mean that that the back will against Vanderbilt Vanderbilt lost Alabama today by a lot was. Was so I they do need to of course, they're playing LSU that that might be the most intriguing game of this tournament before the final because whoever loses that game is not gonna make the AA tournament, according to Charlie cream and a lot of other people. And so it's it's sort of like a plan game. So it's it's very very interesting. And I think that if Tennessee could re rewind a little bit and go back to the team that beat Texas. Like that team head. That's why. And if they could put whatever else is on their minds aside and just focus on the tournament. Because I believe from one end of the bench to the other. They got the most talent the napkin, they put that together on the floor and be competitive. This week. I remember I saw them early in the season in in the Bahamas in Bibi. And you just see that team. And they are so talented they're athletic. They're big they're fast. But I just never felt like they had a consistent motor. And I'll be honest. I have not watched Tennessee a lot during the SEC season. I saw I've seen glimpses of them. But I just I I remember a Tennessee t- that just had. I mean, even when they weren't the most skilled teams they played harder than you every night. And that in the SEC you have to have if nothing else, right? Like, they I I remember the playing hard and stretches, but just that consistent all out effort and some of it and you'd see the, you know, this some of its chemistry some of it is youth. Right. I mean, this is a fairly young Tennessee team. If you look at it on paper, and then so there's a lot of different. Things that could way into it. But that was just something that I thought about was an easy fix probably along the way. But I'm sure Holly Warlick will say as much more than that. We'll be keeping our eyes on the SEC. I I'm intrigued with Missouri and Kentucky because you know, those are two teams that you wonder how good they really are. Now, Missouri has had some big wins. But had the big consistent. You know, Kentucky's had some good not. So in some not so good moments. I was there when they got knocked off at home by MS obviously without Macy Morris. But when you're depending on like a freshman like Ryan Howard, who's in her first postseason. You know, how is that going to go for the Wildcats? But that was our second quarter with Caroline pack and Pam ward. But we've got more coming in the third quarter. You won't want to miss it. Stick around, and please continue to interact with ceriga night on social media. The email. Our Twitter handle is at around the room pod. In Email us at around the room. Podcasts at gmaiLcom. My poodle handle is atlas China Robinson to Rica is at she knows sports underscore, and we're on Sirius XM channel eighty four. If you wanna check us out there. Please also make sure you go to the PIN app or your apple podcasts at whatever. Wherever you go to get your podcast and search for around the rim, hit the subscribe. But in so that we can keep up with you. And you can get our podcast before everyone else will be back with more after this. Third quarter scouting report. All right. We are back with our very special guest, Carolyn peck, and Pam ward of ESPN, you guys have just not been in the SEC only you've traveled a lot throughout the season and one stop at if a ticket I want to ask you about is Miami. 'cause I know you had been for a couple of games and at the ACC tournament. Yes, it's been all Notre Dame in Louisville since those teams have have entered more Notre Dame the Louisville. But now that Miami has knocked both of those teams out in the regular season. Kim they do it in the tournament. Is there anything that you guys from seeing from Miami and your time with them that would indicate? Yes, or no, I would say yes the intentional is there. What is needed is? You've gotta have consistently from that uh game. And most. Half and Beatrice mom premier and the dominance that they can have when they're when they are dominant in the paint. And it's not just they're scoring one premier yet the scoring. But also when it goes inside to Hof hop has a terrific ability to find open shooters around the perimeter. Once the ball goes in it can come out, and they're going to need, Laura Cornelius and my t agree to make thirties. The gotta make shot do said making threes is something when Cornelius is hitting their their winning percentage. It's much better. But off is a really intriguing player and then fun kid and and somebody who passes the ball, well as ambidextrous and they're the only team the only team to beat Notre Dame and Louisville in the same season since both of those teams got into the ACC. So they were you know, they certainly are competent enough to do it. They can be inconsistent. But I agree with Caroline. Yeah. They can do they can spoil the the the Notre. Name Louisville final. But everybody's talking about Pam water. Yeah. Agreeing with me. Hey, the little does do the fans know that those are some of our best Beaumont's. We don't disagree. But especially when we don't agree. But especially when you to disagree that is like my favorite because I listen to both sides and see all the it's Eldar best times. Anything else out of the ACC? Anyone else got a shot, and your opinion is these states there accuse I mean, I I'll be honest with you I with Notre Dame for two Mondays in a row at NC state and add Sarah Hughes, and they didn't even know that those teams were there on made the Iverson's name of Miami. And they were not happy about that. They have gotten a different level of focus. Now, I'm wondering how the news that Asia dirt is player of the year and not arcade while everybody Louisville cleaned up with most of the beige rewards. They got sits in the year. But that may add a little feels envir- to not to say, you know. I mean, that's fine. I think both of those players have had great years. But there seems to always be a little bit of controversy in a little bit of. Competitiveness between Louisville Notre day. But Notre Dame has really been on a on a tear lately. Girl knows how to really tune 'em in. And you know, get them motivated. She knows what bus, but it's the push especially this time of year. Yeah. Well, and Mayberry is a little feisty too. So if you get hurt your harsh she with that way. Yeah. You get her going your head in the right direction. So I know that player of the year is is not a clear cut discussion. Right. Like, everyone is saying, oh, I'm not sure could be if ISA Collier could be tear mccowan. Let's see the Naismith finalists are uneager way colonie Brown Collier, Asia Dir. Megan gusts sin Atlanta Smith of Stanford, Katie Lou Ourika, Google, LA again, tear, mccowan, Sabrina, UNESCO. I picked ready for my player of the year. Even though it's early. I would love to wait to make that decision. But you know, I'm trying to go out of here a little bit just because I feel like her triple doubles. He has most in a season this year is a historical feet. Like, I always take history over performance. So if you're. If you're doing something like I mean who will ever be Heregger, right? We will that happen. We have no clue and to me that is so significant that I think she's gonna hear her numbers. Her efficiency is greater than a lot of these other players, the number of ways, honestly, do a triple double that she could tribute to a game with rebounds and says scoring and all that. That's my pick. Anybody else out there for you guys or anybody feels strongly about? I agree that I if I had a vote, and I don't I would go with UNESCO. Just because of the versatility, Oregon. Obviously is a very good team. But all those names that you mentioned there studs like Christine negroni over counts doesn't get. Oh because she's on the west coast. This kid is putting up numbers that are just jaw dropping, and she doesn't get a lot of attention gossips in. It's been terrific at Iowa. So it's it's gonna be interesting. But yeah, if I had to pick someone would be UNESCO. Caroline. Yeah. Well, and other west coast player, Nick, why is just an athlete phenomenal rebound. Or like, you know, when you go you you, and I think she is a fantastic player. But also when you have three other players on the perimeter shooting over forty five percent that it opens up for you to be able to a lot of different things. So I like I like paying said there's a lot of studies on that list. So. I'm just looking forward to watch them in a tournament. Yeah. How about just the national landscape for you guys? Like, you know, I mean, I don't it's been so hard to be AP voter this year to be honest with you because I don't know who's good. You know, I do know I feel confident about like the top six of seventeen right? Like, we're we'll probably say seven, maybe even eight you know, are like national championship level. But there were some teams that looked like bay could knock somebody off at any moment. You know, like the walk this season. We've just had this interesting parody. Like, I never remember like I don't think we've ever changed number ones this often in the rankings. I been oh is available Notre Dame Baylor definitely deserving to be there right now. And I think that's will being throughout the duration. But you know, is it really is wide open as it seems to to you guys. Yeah. I absolute and I've again covering the sport a long time. And there's there's been nothing like this. And I think you're right. We could have usually when you go in you think there's maybe two or three teams that have a chance to win it. I think that there's at least eight that could and their teams like you wouldn't be surprised if they get knocked out and like the second or third round you look at like, for instance, what's happening in the big ten where there's not that tournament. Could be really interesting Maryland won the regular season, but they had some losses in conference that they're not used to getting and I think the conference tournaments they're going to be incredibly exciting and it's going to carry over to the national tournament. Well, we did payment. I did the Maryland South Carolina game at the beginning of the seats in Maryland to me, look, what are those teams that was gonna be in Tampa. So, you know, you know, when you're when you get into the speed over like target, you only have to win six games. Six games. And so with that happening with the parody of this season. And the the the divers diversity of the talent. How it spread out across the country. The romance. I mean, it can be when you look at it. And I just within the SEC you had Missouri and Texas in Missouri has one post player, but they were better when their post player wasn't on the floor. And so that matchup problem across the country in different matchups. Different styles of play. Anybody can win. We haven't talked about Caroline. I'm surprised you haven't brought them up the number one team in the country right now, they're not getting a lot of attention. I nobody's talking about Baylor. And the I think the biggest thing. Yeah. You have Colotti very on. And you've got. Doc, and but it is khloe Jackson who has been converted from shooter to a point guard. So I mean, that's the thing. Because I think every since they heard exposed that does to post players weren't ready to handle double teams, Pat, Kim. Okay, milwaukee. Thank you. Thank you. Pam. Has made the adjustment to know those two or ready inside. Yeah. I I agree with you. I think they are so under appreciated, and I'm gonna tell you why they was under appreciated I under it because no one respects post play. That's number one. Right. So that's career pulsa love they deserve number to the big twelve. Let's be honest if been inconsistent. It's not a good as we've seen it. Right. It's not as good as we've seen in the playoffs year. So everyone's kind of like, okay, we'll wait to see Baylor in the NCAA tournament. Right. Let's in in the third reason is that they're defensive team and they really good defensive team. And I know everyone loves often, but the way we saw them shutdown Yukon, and you know, the list goes on and on. I mean, they've put on defensive clinics and defense may not be fun. But it wins game. You know what I mean? We need since. I'm not one of these. It says, well, you know, you can't touch the players and let him we we're playing basketball not horse. Yeah. We're going to be physical. No, I'm with you on that. Okay. So to thank you guys. So I got a nother series back ball questions. And then the fun question. I'm gonna let you guys go to practice. So really quickly my serious question. Is there one player that you want fans to know about as we had not only deeper into conference tournament. But also NCAA one player that you think doesn't get enough love or that you just really enjoy watching. And you wanna put him out there who is it. Okay. The SEC tournament Taj coal for Georgia. They're guard. I think she's when she's on. She's Louisville transfers, she's really, exciting and nationally. I go back to to players like a neg- way and Gustafsen more more post players who people don't get to see a lot of and they're and they're really elite players. Caroline. Cannot believe pay more. You did not say Mesa hawk. Oh, it makes a half course. Counted players. She's amodeg. She is she plays hard. But the thing that I love about it. The most is she plays with a smile on her face. She has fun. I love kids. What? Well, I'm surprised they're paying war didn't say to be catching. But we'll say. Yeah. You're very happy. Good. Okay. We had minutes. Okay. One last question fun question. Three top three SEC cities for best restaurants, top SEC cities. Best restaurants. Nashville. Okay. Number two, South Carolina. Colonial has some good stuff going on. Yeah. Oh breakfast, lunch and dinner. Got it covered in Columbia. Okay. What else not last one last one? I go Athens, Georgia. I just love Athens. Final. Call. Has to go. I'm going to Lexington Kentucky. Oh lexington. Tony's malone. See this is incorrect. Green and Chris Dombi Johnny who I work with on our package. I mean, they were all in Oxford. They were trying to convince me of all kinds of stuff happening SEC, restaurant wise, Auburn, and I didn't hear any of that from you guys. Due to get out more. Actually, we're really good vegetarian restaurant right across the street with China is an ice cream shop. So that that's pretty good too. I know you're about the vegetarian stuff. I love you guys. I appreciate your time on the show. We'll be listening to you all the way through the NCAA tournament. Definitely. It's the SEC for the next few days. Thank you for just being who you are. And if you need me, just me, okay. Thank you guys fourth quarter. All right basketball fans. We are nearing an end of an awesome show. But before we go, we definitely want to let you know because I don't know about you China, but my Twitter is always blowing it with people asking if we are going to be returning to the final four to do a live podcast like we did last year. And I'm assuming that that means they enjoyed it. And therefore they want us to do it again. So I figure we just get people what they want. So we're going to be defile four. We're going to be. Podcasts in Tampa people. So if you are going to be in Tampa for the final four, please make sure you come in. Check us out more details as far as exactly where in what time will be released as we get closer. But we are going to be there. So we do want to see you that makes me really really really happy. We had a blast last year. Doing our live podcasts. People have questions we bring in a Stewart. We had Asia Wilson we had healthy Mitchell. Yup. Amber stocks, Kurt Miller. I'm looking for. That Moore hall of famers, more players, more coaches, more friends with podcast, and of course, more time with the fans. So I'm excited about that. And speaking of the fans are fans really have shown up is showing out for us because we just reach a thousand follows on. And around the rim. Yeah. We appreciate that to me. Like, it's been three years. Now, that's Regan. I've been doing around the room, and we do it for you. We do it for the fans, we do it for the coaches. We do it for the players. You know, something that we started out at least two Rica knew what she was doing because she was already working in the radio podcast land. I have never hosted in my life. I'm still not very good at it. But we've kept it going. We've had some great guests. We've talked about basketball we've been racket with fans hopefully, enjoy it. We're always open to how we can get better. Trust me. 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September 2, 2019: Happy Labor Day

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September 2, 2019: Happy Labor Day

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Some businesses will be closed but most stores stay open and if you're looking for good deals and home decor and other items ahead of the fall. There's likely a sale out there waiting for you had u._s._a. Today dot com for a list of some of the best deals for a wide range of products hurricane dorian is on the move. The monster storm slammed the bahamas on sunday tying an eighty four year record for the most powerful powerful atlantic hurricane to come ashore and it's continuing its march toward the east coast of florida. The national hurricane center says that dorian is driving with sustained winds of one hundred eighty five hi miles an hour gusts over two hundred twenty miles an hour early sunday morning the national hurricane center dr ed rappaport gave an update to the u._s._a. Today network expect expect very slow motion in turn towards the northwest very close the florida east coast probably just offshore but close enough that there will be impacts and for that reason there are now tropical storm and hurricane watches and warnings up for much of these and so in fact we have hurricane warning up from generally generally near the palm beaches northward to north of cape canaveral and we also have a storm surge warning in effect for roughly the same area. The storm is slow moving at a sluggish five miles per hour as of sunday afternoon next up u._s. Open roles on monday. After naomi osaka took down fifteen year old coco golf in straight-sets in the third-round saturday night after the match the pair shared an emotional moment of sportsmanship as the twenty one year old osaka consoled and convinced goff to join her for a post match interview osaka on monday. We'll take on belinda bench switzerland. Meanwhile in the men's singles side three time champ rafael nadal and twenty fourteen winner. Marian church will face each other. Some are considering the men's side wide open after defending wimbledon champ. Novak djokovic retired early from his sunday match. You can watch all the action on the e._s._p._n. Family of networks and follow along with u._s._a. Today sports the death toll has risen to seven following a deadly mass shooting in texas. The shooting occurred between odessa in midland in the western part of the state. After a routine traffic. Stop turned violent police say the gunman grabbed a rifle and shot at officers before fleeing on the interstate and and firing at other drivers and passers by as he went he at one point also stole a mail truck desa mayor david turner said at the vigil for victims that his community must be strong and in pulled together yesterday was a horrible day and it shook us from our very foundation but this will not bring us in west texas you have to be tough are whether it's tough y'all economy as its ups and downs. We've been through a lot and we will get through this. Meanwhile midland mayor jerry morales had strong words for the assailant. We are devastated by this act. From this media media who are communities those who were killed range from ages fifteen to fifty seven and the twenty two other people injured include a seventeen month old baby and three police officers. The massacre took place just one day before a series of gun. 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Hour 4: 9/2/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

27:35 min | 1 year ago

Hour 4: 9/2/19

"Hello everybody you're looking live at fans. Ville a college football utopia with a rivers flow with ice cold. Dr pepper attaches where every day is saturday in everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change because the only season is college football football season. Get a taste of fans ville this fall during a college football game near you dr pepper the official drink a fans ville grab some today. You cried passion. Then pattern tree of college football leaves here. This is the paul finebaum. Show our retu- podcast our to go. We thank you for being a part of. It's been a good one <hes> a lot more to do here on. There's labor day. Let's continue with more phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five also looking forward to some more analysis on the opening weekend of the year. John is next in kentucky john paul. Thanks for taking my call. I i can't believe it. I tell you one thing one thing. I wanted to comment on and to see what your thoughts were on. It kentucky's they've made great strides in the last couple of years and being able to make second-half adjustments we saw the forward missouri game last year and even in the bowl game last year and <music> saw that again this weekend and i watched the florida miami game from two weeks ago and wanted to see what your thoughts were edmund two weeks <hes> down down the road to the florida game on how kentucky looks in that game. I think it's always a critical part. I mean it's a cliche and thank you very much for the call. It's always a cliche. Did you hear commentators. Say what kind of <hes> second-half adjustments are going to me but you know it's i talked to coach is many times and it's very difficult to to react react on the fly you can you can you can do a little bit. Certainly it's a quick game and you are accustomed out but you have a little more time especially. If something something isn't working that you had plan so i think that's a critical part of football and i think mark stoops has shown <hes> his ability his his exemplary ability to do that. Bill bender joining us from the sporting news built always great to have you on. We've talked many times about what we think is going to happen. When now we've gotten pretty good dose of it with one game remaining <hes> good afternoon and what <hes> what have been your impressions and what really stood out to you after week one of the college football fall season start l._s._u. I just think with the passing game and joe borough running around and that kind of new offense obviously got some attention from leonard fournette you know to me it means that the might just have three top five teams right now and then <hes>. I'll let you if you wanna talk about jalen hurts to a tunga bilo whatever i mean it was. It's a pretty good first week but i think with all the talk winning you just kinda gotta sort out that charleston the top ten yeah and listen. We'll be breaking this down for a while but i i i do wanna ask you about the underbelly of the weekend and it seems like tennessee has won the award as the most embarrassing although there there are a lot of competitors for that conversation right now well our mutual friend chris lowe. I know he tweeted out that sean elliott had a feeling that georgia state can win that game upfront and when you lose the game up front you lose the game a lot of times and that was a little bit of a stunner florida state's got some competition. They're giving up twenty straight points the boise state they can't be feeling so good in tallahassee and then other than that like. I said there wasn't too many upsets. I thought northwestern was a bit of a dud at stanford. I actually thought they were gonna win. That game aims and then you know schools like ohio state michigan. We didn't see that extra gear even though they looked impressive at times in the first half. Let me let me zero in on a couple of programs and these are not contenders but <hes> you know tennessee when you lose georgia state and you have b._y._u. Are you coming in. That's a game that most of had in the win column <hes> where where does this program go right now bill they gotta go by winning a game because if they don't when that one you know how it's gonna get down there <hes> with the georgia and alabama florida and then you're you're kinda count wins and you don't know if you can get past four or five if if they don't win this week i still think the goal for that person has to be to get to a bowl game because of ballgame would show progress. I don't know that there are anywhere near the zip code of those three arrivals. I mentioned just starting off with a win trying to get to a bowl game and and that's the expectations right now whether they like it or not y year four for will mush champ and he loses to nag brown who was given up for dead but still had the hall of fame career and he comes back with to win north carolina team and beats south carolina. What's the state of the gamecocks right. Now on bad goes the worst. I these reports about jake bell troy. <hes> you know because again when you look at the makeup of the s._e._c. so i think you and i can agree georgia florida one to you kind of a scramble for free but win. Missoula's and vanderbilt loses and you're looking at kentucky. Is that the third best team in the s._e._c. east and maybe they are. I thank you finish sixth or seventh in that division. They're going to be talking about you and i mean we'll mush champ. I mean they lost the game but i came away. More impressed with mack brown's got going on in north north carolina. I think he's going to be able to recruit there. I liked the starting block that they had and as you and i both is one of the good guys in the game. Tim be happier for him a lot of other <hes> <hes> things to talk about. Let's move onto this week because <hes> you already alluded to the two biggest games of the day. It starts in clemson with an and then <hes> l._s._u. In texas that night i mean there are a lot of a lot of other games at matter but those are the two biggest and of course stanford and u._c. Later on a._m. They've come a long way under jimbo fisher. They come far enough to go to clemson and win a game that hardly anyone thinks they will. They iran let them last year and had a fantastic game when pat and looked at the box score the touchdown passing yards he made it interesting conoco amman's going to have to have the night of his life for them to go go to death valley and win because clemson from skill position standpoint can hurt you so many ways. It's so weird to tell you this pulpit and trevor lawrence is one of the best quarterbacks i've ever seen and i don't even think he's the best heisman candidate on his team right now with trying to see ten running the way he is so they will have their hands full but i know jimbo's coach that team had got more than that that one on the schedule <hes> you mentioned l._s._u. In texas i'm excited about the quarterback play mentioned borough earlier. Gonna throw it around and that is the that's the game that's that's the one where the winner not only way they can win their conference. They're definitely gonna feel like a playoff team. After one in that auburn knocks off oregon at the the end <hes> did you see enough from auburn to believe that they can be around at the end of the season. I saw enough from auburn paul to know that i don't know how to break them down in any way shape perform other than i really like though knicks from an excitement factor you know throw a couple to the wrong team. He made a couple of big plays but i just felt. I don't know if you felt the same same way but in the third quarter i kept saying to myself. I was just gonna find a way to win this game and i really couldn't believe they did and circumstances in which they did but the defense held them. They need the two men on organ for not shutting door. It gets an extra credit for making plays when it mattered most yeah you're right. I mean <hes>. I'm sure if you're in mario crystals crystals office today. You're you're just you're pulling your hair out of the opportunities that they had and blue. That's a familiar story out there in in oregon <hes> talking to bill bender <hes> as we are running through. We haven't talked about alabama yet. <hes> it was it was the final score is deceiving. Alabama struggled struggled early in that game. What did you see there. The design of the play calling me was that they were going to stick with the run. Even though it wasn't working so i mean quarter by quarter was pretty fifty fifty fifty cold <hes> twos great. He's efficient. I mean he it's amazing the he can be that good and kind of be a second or third page story with the receivers he had but i i think most of the frustration that they didn't get the running game going but as you saw in the second half once they pour it on and i actually maybe the bigger story might be. We all wondered what it'd be. You like without billing moses well that defense played with an edge tackled well and and didn't really get to call but still they played pretty well on that side of the ball and <music> <hes> you mentioned that the n._f._l. At clemson but jer judy at alabama he cannot be ignored kenny we shouldn't be i mean he's one of the best receivers i've ever seen and i played receiver in high school and portion to him. I can't believe hasn't been since doesn't howard since receiver won the award but if he put up i don't know twenty to twenty five touchdowns and some big numbers behind it and it's clear he's the best player on the field. Maybe he does deserve a little more heisman attention attention. There's no doubt about that bill vendor with a lot to say after week one a look ahead to week two or week. Zero seems like a long long time ago. Bill doesn't it. I know louisville notre dame and we ones over but you forty dollars. You and i'll be looking off season storylines. Thanks so much for having me on funding bill. Tell all my friends at notre dame. We'll take a short break back with much more including your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five to listening to paul finebaum show podcast back to the program. Let's get back to our calls and dan is in south carolina. Hey dan hey paul zangari dan. I'm gonna tell you right now. I think for allowing me to bent right now. Guess will must have he sat there and said that <hes> wasn't jay bentley. It was solely to blame so you don't have gone right when he went in there and got up to the star of the game and he was hugging. Almac brownie looked like a kid in the candy store he wanted get him too much. Turn respect and i don't care if you got three seconds on that land. He should've went for <hes> into the end zone. No matter what and i'm telling you right now i must have you need a quit worried about your former bosses. Are you going to end up having to go back to thank you paul thank you. That's a little bit angry didn't he must champ worked for mack worked for saving most of us. Champ is always been considered sorta among the premier defensive coordinators in the country. The head coaching resumes worshiping jimmy is in chicago. Hey jimmy paul. Things are so bad in knoxville. I got a text yesterday from a buddy with an accompany photo and if city city s._p._n. Is reporting. That smoky has entered the transfer portals adam schefter. Yes i'm telling you what i was watching that. In the fourth quarter with the game on the line and on the go ahead touchdown i think that could <hes> <hes> <hes> georgia state of twenty seven twenty <hes> twenty three on you could have driven an eighteen wheeler through that hole i made they absolutely dominated tennessee of fraud on both sides of the ball in the fourth quarter. You were an allstate players so you understand the game and i know it's easy to understand but but explain to those of us in the never land how that happens <hes> well sean elliott predicted it leading up to the game. He felt fully confident that they could win. I obviously <hes> georgia state was ready to play from the get go. They were <hes> they were confident. They played with a high motor her and <hes> and like i said in the fourth quarter with the game on the line tennessee had minus two yards rushing and this is georgia state state team that was to ten last year. One of those wins was against and that's c._s. Team and they were picked preseason last in the east division asian of <hes> of the sun belt conference. It's it's just mind bali honestly paul. It looked to me that other than the skill position players okay front tennessee. Just didn't have players that can win and s._e._c. I mean <hes> the offensive line's been a continuous problem and they man they just they just couldn't get it done late in the game but <hes> i it was just ugly but i wanted to <hes> to mention jalen i mean all of us is or really happy to see him. Doing well and i'm telling you what after watching that game last night i mean he could very very well when the heisman which sheer numbers if all those defenses in the big twelve and you mentioned it when you're talking to jason it's doubtful that other than texas you're gonna face any defenses in the big twelve that are much better than houston i and in all fairness that houston houston defense on not a single one of jalen twenty completions did they have a defender within five yards of oklahoma homer receiver when he caught the ball. It was unbelievable. I mean it was it was the college football version of the washington generals. I mean the only thing missing was read. It clots venus defensive coordinator jimmy. Hey thank you very much by the way i looked at georgia state last year. I mean this. This team was to in ten but they they lost to n._c. State forty one to seven memphis fifty fifty nine to twenty two their last two games of the year appalachian state forty-five seventeen in georgia southern thirty five fourteen thirteen texas state. They lost as well. That's team. We saw the other night so this just put it in context what we're talking about here in georgia state football. Let's continue with with more calls and colin in colorado good afternoon babe how you doing first time on both thank you great to have you on. Hey look how about the tar heels about them. Yeah look hey. I just wanted to come listen for two weeks. I just thought i gotta throw salt. We're okay because the listened for two weeks out of the gamecocks. We're gonna come up there to charlotte and stop over mack brown back to the television. Well you know i think matt brown showed the other day that why he's a hall of fame coach and i i think he's very deserving of that and <hes> personally i'm. I'm thrilled for him close friend and he showed <hes> he's still got it at sixty eight years old. <hes> jim is up next. Hey jim. I'm gonna tell you not tell you. I don't talk talk good neva policy aw and <hes>. I think you deep down inside know what i'm going. What i'm saying is going to be a spot on. I put it on twitter tonight. What tennessee and those people did and said and you and i and chain and many others were talking about it in two thousand two thousand and one nonstop non-stop ad nauseam and you're at the head of the class talking about how dirty rotten sinister rotten and evil is it was the thing is that the poem former and his gang of tennesseans did the two balls allege alabama talk false dirt because alabama five years have been set actually seven years until saving got there seven years later of being you know science and so severely because of a stinking lives they told and i firmly believe this and i know it in my heart. They have been punished for their bad. Evil sends out guarantee so you. There's a curse on them for what they did. Well yeah for those who <hes> go way back to the beginning. This was a story that we're on jim. What three or four years every single day right here yeah but when it came to a head when when you when you had who's that guy that law all you had on every day tommy galleon. I'm a guy and you also. That's out really starting to join your guys the blog you feel i mean what's the one oughta memphis is kind of philip. Philip shanks built exactly he was only every day telling the truth about it talking about it knowing about i won't get on with jimmy while we go because i know jimmy is the best college you got right now and i wanted to say what he he's now. I'm a fan. I think he's agree with food. I know i know that something about about that is causing tennessee to be held back because of their evil they did. They being stopped permanent. You pay for your sins. Y'all guarantee you all you pay for your sins. Well would never argue that certainly a part of history <hes> but it was a fascinating story and phillip fulmer was <hes> right in the middle of it. Tell me this fall honestly have you not has not been rising your mind regarding tennessee over the last couple of years after jim in and trying to analyze tennessee. I've always felt the the the issue was just a complete tura turnover in chance where the president of the a._d. The football coach it's it's been a constant <hes> merry go round the but i never knew because former was not part of it but <hes> i'm sure you're thinking this is more well. I know for a fact we see you on alabama. They we said it every day back then you remember that tweet and they were talking about it on your show and and <hes> you know shame now. I was going crazy. <hes> you were going. Everybody was talking about how rotten we know. Dirty tennessee was and still is. I really believe well jim. I'm gonna have to think about that one because <hes> a bad decision because you're trying to get your team or your alma mater but you were against for good reason you were well yeah there's no question on alabama side and and how did some things that that they're brought brought the problems on but it's a it was a little bit and i i really don't wanna go political here jim but it was it was it was according to many people a witch-hunt exactly exactly that's my way that we know alabama deserve some of that but not for not the allegations were propagated about tennessee people. I mean we know that i mean the guy was a guy named. Roy came remembers last <hes> tennessee tennessee ten stout. Remember him yeah yeah sure. Absolutely we have to run but but but we're back after you're listening the paul finebaum show podcast. We'll be back final thirty minutes. It's been a rough couple of days for the university. The of south carolina losing to north carolina saturday in charlotte and <hes> we understand the bad news continues brent ben bryner from the state joining us ben. Thank you very much. <hes> we understand your now reporting some news about jake bentley. Thanks for being here and tell us <hes> what you know <hes> jake bentley's got a foot injury and he's gonna gonna be out six weeks. <hes> which puts four star freshman ryan zinke inline start for the foreseeable future for south carolina. What's certainly go back to what happened. When when did this happen. Give us what you know because certainly last night we'll much champ was was was not was not alluding to this at all yeah so as we as we understand at some point during the game haven't pinpointed exactly when <hes> reports started surfacing today <hes> the jake was on crutches. Just you know twitter chatter and certainly breaking throughout the middle of the day very spokes reporting various things <hes> and it just seems like <hes> has never been as often not been the most forthcoming about certain injuries and so. I'm not totally surprised that we didn't hear much about it. <hes> school spokesperson told me that they weren't able to confirm anything usually will kind of wait until the press conference deal with all that which i believe is tomorrow what tell us about ryan linski <hes> you mentioned. He's a four star freshman. Would we know <hes> pro-style passer not necessarily the most mobile but quite accurate <hes> in the short amount of practice. We've seen just you know throws a pretty nice ball all came in in the spring game hit <hes> pretty high percentage of his of his passes <hes> obviously he's the younger brother of tilahun steve former for washington state quarterback who <hes> tragically committed suicide a few years ago <hes> his family's actually moved out here and living in columbia yeah and so they're kind of <hes> an interesting story on that front yeah. No everyone remembers that terrible tragedy. I it's it's impossible possible to figure out where we're this program is right now when you when you consider just a terrible loss and now on top of this even though many fans were less than thrilled at times with bentley he was a four year starter and he is he has shown in the past what he's capable of help us better understand where we are right. Now i realize the game. This week is manageable but <hes> alabama's coming into town the week after that yeah it was what happened happened on saturday was was just it was confusing and it was the kind of thing that a perfume in south carolina's situation simply couldn't afford this year was going to be a tight rope walk to get to six or seven wins just based on the top end of that schedule and that was assuming that north carolina was baby between your second and fourth easiest game well now. That's a loss <hes>. I think it it changes the dynamics a little bit because obviously young quarterbacks provide hope and young quarterbacks provide a measure of <hes> of a margin for error for coaches because quarterback series on the offense in <hes> is an unproven hands so i think it changes the dynamics a little bit because instead of every week sort of being a grind of watching can jake bentley get this done can they actually returned earned even bowl a lot. It's going to turn to what is ryan wenski showing you a future for this program and and then sort of that kind of thing. Yes you know listen i. I i agree with you. In a lot of hope is always put in the hands of others but <hes> this is year four and the schedule as you mentioned <hes> it it was going to be difficult to get to seven that may now be off the board as we as we talk about the schedule and when we we know we we know south. Carolina has the top three teams in the country but but those aren't the games that really determined at missouri that seems like a really challenging game kentucky at home florida tennessee appalachian state. Can you tell me <hes> you know the program pretty well. You got to an unknown quantity a a- at quarterback what's the range now look like well <hes> coming out of coming out of saturday before the jake l. e. news i was thinking for five was probably where you were going to get unless something really started to break right and they were really able to dig it out. After that news as i mean you could be looking at you could be looking at four you could be looking at less and that poses a big problem in terms of just sort of where this program thought it it was and then it seemed to me. You're there on the eve an average season this year. I'm talking five six wins. Wins will muschamp was going to get a pass. He's well liked. He has the absolute or he had he has had the absolute backing of ray tanner and i realize realized we're in a crisis mode right now. Overreaction is easy but if you are if what you say is true and this program comes in under five or six wins what does that mean to those fans who who have very loyal support this program but they may be running short on patients. Well definitely for the fans. I think that it's going to be there's been there's been grousing through last season. There's been grousing through a lot of this off season and that that's going to only intensify the question of maybe wheels future itself a lot of that. I think comes down to a buyout if nothing else because his enormous at it. I don't wanna quit the exact number at least eighteen million plus he soon million a._t. U._s._a. today's <hes> number and that might be after the first next year so that might it might be a little bit higher this season <hes> <hes> this is not the time to to try to figure out how coaches like will muschamp get buyouts that high but maybe we can table that discussion but as we close commit. Let's repeat the news. <hes> bentley is out your reporting. That alinsky is expected to start in thirty seconds. Can you give us <hes>. I mean other than the connection the terrible connection though was his brother. Oh what what do we know about him. Re <hes> really nice upbeat. Kid <hes> came through an interesting experience in high school. In which is his senior season team was beset by injury and he kind of fought battles through it elite eleven quarterback <hes> <hes> seems to be well liked around the program seems to be a hard worker and now a lot of it's just a question of what happens when when he steps in in in this becomes israel well done ben. I know it's been a busy couple of days a really nice story that you're breaking here as we're reporting a hope. You'll come back soon. Ben bryner from the state. Thank you very very much making much great stuff and a it doesn't matter whether we're fans of someone or not <hes> we're. We're here to report the news and to comment on it. <hes> i've always been a fan of will muschamp however i will tell you. This is a really difficult and delicate could situation that he is now entering the success of polinsky. <hes> positively or negatively is not going to affect his future. What happens on the football field will bill and already suffocating. Season may have just gotten worse will follow that story in the coming days. We're coming right back. You're listening to paul. Finebaum show podcast.

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Murray To The NFL?

College Football Live

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Murray To The NFL?

"The. I mean, he's a freak man parties a really good young player. And he's going to be a tremendous player. But collars freak and followed him since he's a sophomore in high school. I take him with the I figure the draft. If I could I know he signed up to play baseball, but he is a dominant football player. And I would I would take him with the first pick. Birds odd show in Vilma. So I'll tell let's start number one pick of the draft clip Kingsbury is on the cock- with the cardinals taking collar Murray. The better take collar Murray because he was talking that talk this time from the walk the walk. He can't be writing checks with his mouth that his actions won't cash. You gotta take collar Murray because cliffs Kingsbury he does much better with dual threat quarterbacks. Dos. Rosen is an amazing young quarterback that boy Kyla Murray is special auto. I've no idea what you're talking about. I don't know what you're smoking earlier today, but you cannot take collar Murray as a number one overall pick the number one overall pick it's supposed to go to the best player in the draft. And it is not Kyla Murray. And I looked Colin Murray and his play, but he's not the number one overall pick. I hope I really hope that cooked Kingsbury just goes back on what he said. And he doesn't dig himself into a deeper hole by drafting calamari number one overall. My man JV, you just said. To go to the best player in Kyle Mary is not the best player. I feel like his Heisman Trophy might say. Otherwise, the I understand there's an argument for not taking them. You already. Have Josh Rosen and Josh Rosen is a great young quarterback. But Kyle Murray is a dual threat quarterback. If you're brought cliff Kingsbury to Arizona because of what he's done in college. Then you'd better keep up the trend in what he's done in college is utilized dual threat quarterbacks with their feet with their arm with their accuracy column. Berry has all those things. Josh Rosen just going to be standing back there like a statue delivering darks of illicit. Hey, if they did take Murray Rosen's out there, you'll be traded to somebody else, but China where you stand on this, but Vilma better more successful career NFL or major league baseball for Kyla Murray. Wow. Better career. That's the more successful. I'm going to go financial terms. So it will be major league baseball where he'd be more successful because he would earn more money. It would all be guaranteed. He play a lot longer. His body would be healthy. So everything says financially column Mercia play in the majors. He'll get to the majors. Clearly, he's good enough. You've got a five million dollar signing bonus. And he hasn't played one play in baseball. So we know successfully if we're talking finances, it should be B J V. I agree with you. The Wiseman Drake once said don't do it. These don't do it. Cuyler? Don't go to football. My friend play baseball it safer. You don't have to worry about defensive lineman trying to take your head off you make money, and it's all guaranteed. It's a no-brainer yet. But guys guys talking about guaranteed money if he becomes a first round draft pick, which he will now Justin Herber going back to Oregon next year. He's gonna make as much money right off the bat as Lamar Jackson. Probably even more with the amount of endorsement deals that he hasn't. It's kim. Excited. Do. We're talking about long money, man. If you told me that could play ten years in the majors or ten years in the NFL, I'm taking the majors all day long. This ten years is way more than quarterback. We're talking you're talking. You're talking as if it's so easy to walk out and go, hey, here's a ten year deal for eighty million dollars Cuyler Murray. Like, it's hard. Okay. He's going to go to is Beloit. That's beloit. Wisconsin is going to work. He would play rookie Paul. No, one is Wisconsin. I think it's a made up name. So, but we're we have appeared with the point is that the projection you project a map, they're giving them five million dollars. Now, clearly he's projected out to be a very very good baseball player for years possibly decades to come. That's where I'm going with. If you project it out he's going he has a potential to make a lot more money than just first round NFL quarterback money. Jay the Iraq with you. There's a difference between rich and being wealthy. Football players are rich baseball players with that long money. Well, all right. Well, both of you guys are Marijn in your thoughts. And I've affair this tape Martell. I thought we were gonna talk Justin field today but tape Martell right before the. Shows started says guys put me in the incident transfer porn on the redshirt freshman, of course, has been there waiting for his opportunity for two years. And now he is in that portal. Now, this doesn't mean necessarily that he has to transfer though Acho it allows him the opportunity to talk to other schools. What do you make this decision from Tate for me? It's so tough. Because on one end I'm extremely excited for fields now going to a high AllState now you think about a guy like Tate Martell worked hard the last two seasons just to get beat out. And again, he was talking that cash on Twitter JV, you know, what I'm talking about out there talking real reckless. And now, you're gonna transfer is just a tough sticky situation. But I don't know the NC A is starting to walk very fine line when you have a huge quarterback free agency. Like this two thousand nineteen year looks like. Well, a wonderful producer Greg Shapiro. He made a very obvious with the term college free agency. That's what this is turned into. And at love that it's making it more and more obvious and more parent that there is no more loyalty and big time college football. It is a business. You have quarterbacks that are sitting out red-shirted sitting out learning system being told that they may be the starter. They should be the starter. And all of a sudden you bring in someone off the street little out the street because why why is Justin feels leaving everyone forgets because he couldn't handle the competition over Georgia Jake from took it over and said, I'm going to be the quarterback and handle his business on the field. So now you want to do exactly what Jake Jake fail. Justin fields did to Jake from Georgia and expect Martell to not leave, of course, he should leave. If you're going to do it. Then why not it's a business drama or drama. I just need to have somebody's burner Instagram account. Like, hey, d- making comments on you talked about. Justin feels. All right. So he's going there. He's going to apply for a media eligibility. Thomas Mars, the same guy who did all the Michigan players and shape. Patterson helped those guys out if he does play this. That means he's the starter. Now with this news and does Ohio State, right? There is a top five national title contender. Well, I don't know what Ryan has told him or promise the Justin fields. I would make an open quarterback competition. He should earn. It just like anybody else. Just like he did not earn it over Georgia's why he left so you have to test his character. Because anytime someone is faced with adversity if their first reaction is to run or bolt you're not gonna win anything and go regarding the possibility of him and making your house, stay better. They had Dwayne Haskins. Hassans was best quarterback at Ohio State for decades. There is no getting better than him, especially not next year. They'll have to try and get better, but it will be a process. Today to some degree. But I will say this is no competition in the NFL draft. A first round pick the first round pick is going to start. Whether it's day one or day two. He's getting that job in college. If you sign a big name or get a big name transfer a five star transfer. He's getting that job. Justin feels and go to state to sit on a bench. If he wanted to sit on the bench. He could've stayed on a nice comfortable bench in Georgia. He chose to did. So he could start to play somewhere. There's no talk show that that's the issue that we're talking about. We're seeing here calling out one player for putting his name and a transfer portal because he doesn't want to face the competition. And then the next Brett we're saying, oh because he's a five-star. He shouldn't have to be having a face competition. He should just go in and start. No, it shouldn't work that way. We share one star to you gotta make them compete. I'm not saying he shouldn't have to Jay the. But you know, what it is? It's the nature of the beast. The first round picks the five stars. They get first choice. They get first dibs. I wasn't that guy. I was a six round pick to my knowledge. I believe you were one of those I kind of top tier kind of guys. So you just kind of got the grace that others like myself, Don Vilma. Kinda grace I hadn't considered kind of raise enough enough guys. Here's something that we can all at least agree on the instability targeting rule. I have no idea. What's going on? At least. Now, the the American football coaches association. They got up they were meeting in San Antonio and says, yeah, we need to change. This coaches are looking for more of a two tier targeting rule much like the flagrant one in flagrant two in college basketball on. So is this the right answer because you look at this lead or this rule right now, it's two parts one involving forcible contact with the crown of the helmet and the other making forcible contact to a head or neck of a defensive player the penalty fifteen yards automatic first down, and boom, you're out of here d Q of the offending player. I show then we need to have like a red card. Yellowcard rule in college football for targeting guy burns for me. It is incredibly simple. There are two parts to targeting. It is either incidental or it is intentional. If it isn't. National. You gotta get out of the game immediately. There's no place in football it. But if it is incidental, and that is easy to identify by anybody that watches a lot of football or has played significant football. There should be grace for that. If receivers coming across the middle. I have already launched to tackle him, and he lowers the targeting radius. And now we make incidental contact. I should not be punished. But if I'm just head hunting trying to take somebody's head off. And then I should be punished to the tenth degree if simple as that incidental intentional. We have to clarify. So are you saying yes, or no, you agree with the flavored one flagrant to I've rewrite? The whole thing myself, if you let me do it, but I do agree to some degree. There has to be a flagrant one flagrant to type of difference. But I don't know that. That's the right answer. Jay, the I'm just not convinced that we figured it out yet. I'm convinced the should be Pfleger one flagrant too. Because the coaches players referees all need to get together and look at the targeting plays. And look and say what is malicious what is not malicious. I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by it's dental intentional, and what you would rewrite, but this is as good as it gets for college football because you'll have a targeting they'll review it and after this all season. I would hope that players coaches referees are all on the same page about what is malicious and what is not militias. And once everything is clearly defined then you can figure out who should be tossed and who should stay in for just a fifteen yard. Now. We'll say this. I talked to people close to the NC double lay last year the national championship game. They understand this actually kind of liked this rule. But there was a fear that if they backed down fact after one year of this targeting rule that they would be kind of looked at us going. Well, you don't really care about player safety. So I think it's going to happen in a year from now, but we still got another year that will have very questionable. Calls one day. We can't question is the success of Daboh, sweetie. Coming up. Our Davis was able to talk to him and whether or not Devo Swinney considers twenty eight thousand one of the best ever. There's the context of this team perhaps being one of the degrade. If not the greatest champions of all time, I think they are the greatest and that was you know, that was something we talked about coming into this season. Kelly football live is brought to you by legalzoom. Get legal help for your business and family and legalzoom dot com. Tell me a story. Take one. Hi, I'm Dabo Sweeney. And I'm going to tell you a story. Summer of eighty nine mongo was to try to make enough money. Hopefully by car to go back to school. On a Nissan Sentra five-speed, look like little BMW. It was awesome. And I literally have the car about I know mont-. So this particular time me and a friend of mine. Name Alex, we'd go park at my friend's house and money son, central get out park second year around and as I'm walking back to his truck. Alex starts going. And he's point at me through the truck turn around in my car is just starting to kind of barely creep bucket in front of the car. And I'm trying to think I can maybe stop the momentum and it won't stop. And I mean, I'm sliding sliding, and it just goes straight down like cliff my whole life flash in front of me here. Dive the way flipping and going through Briars. I look up in the car is just tilting over and it's like in slow motion. And it goes over. Crashes down the Hugh and tvos into a tree Alex comes run, and he's going screen as splitting. It was just this moment of. Disbelief. You know, here's my brand new car I've made like one payment on it. I can't believe he calls a tow truck to get it lit up out of the bottom of their woods there. I remember calling. My dad telling him what happened and turns out he'd let the insurance lapse. So I got no insurance three plus thousand dollars worth of damage. So that car sat there till literally lighting the next year because I didn't have the money to get it out so made payments car that I didn't have. But eventually got it back. It was the best looking Bondo Nissan century you've ever seen smelt pretty new still those light getting a new car all over again two years in a row. That was my first car great moments and also some tough too. Those are great out more V6.. These tell me a story series on Sunday mornings on ESPN will after winning his second national title and three years Daboh took home the bear Bryant coach of the year award in the morning after that game. The forty four sixteen trouncing of Alabama are restate this caught up with. Who said you watched the replay back a couple of times after the game. What struck you when watching the replay the game? Maybe in the moment. You didn't didn't grasp the complete focus of our team. I mean, they talk about the eye of the tiger all the time and just the focused intensity. And it really that really showed through on the TV. You know, I felt it you're into the game. You're you know, you don't really see what's going on behind you and stuff like that. But just the energy from our team. There was a true singleness of purpose special. There's the context of this team perhaps being one of the great if not the greatest champions of all time. I think they are the greatest and that was you know, that was something we talked about coming into this season. You know? I mean, why not why not something that they won a kind of? We always have our. Team goals. And then every team each year. There's there's kind of some challenges within the team that that I present to them one of the things we talked about was best ever and this team and the macho guys because that's something that the senior talked about they want to you know, how many how many wins. Do we need to be the winningest class where you need fifty? Well, they got fifty five you got to do things that have never been done before. And this team has done that all year. Coach Spurrier called me this morning. He left me voice mound. Just said, you know, I congratulations, you know on on the game. And then you guys were ready. And and he said he said, yeah, dab, oh, you know, they give them national championships out every year. He said, but to be the first fifteen in team that's pretty special. And then he said, you know, you need to put that on your resume. So make sure I'd dust off your resume put that on there. You know, it's never been done. And not only is it never been done. We did it in convincing fashion against two of the greatest programs in the history of college football. You've got two sons on the team the two guys who will be in. The will. No, no pun intended. What what was the first moment with them? Like last night. I couldn't find him after the gals so frustrated and man they were everybody rushing me off the field. I wanted to find the boys I was with cat. And I had clay made. It was chaos and I wanted to be dad for a minute. So we came out of the press conference. We went back to the field, and I just stood on the field. And and will Andrew came out and Kath and Klay. So we were able to take a family picture. And just kind of had a little moment together. I wanted them to just know how special this is and you know, dad's, not the only one with the national championship. Now. I got I got two sons that just got their first one and pretty amazing moment for me as a coach. And also a dad. Might have a couple more of those dad. Moments Tigers dominated over the last four years guys winning fifty five of fifty nine games for ACC titles and to Nazis. They've also spent fifty four weeks in AP top five and only five weeks outside the top tin Vilma. We use this word a lot around sports. We talk dynasties is the Clemson Tigers dynasty already. I don't know if I can say that they are I still need to see a few more years of success only because of how strong a word dynasty is the come. Some Tigers are amazing. The Clemson Tigers are clearly one of the two best programs in college football and have been over the last half decade. But when you say dynasty, you think of early nineties Cowboys you'd think of modern day patriots. When you're talking about seven Super Bowls in the last seven Super Bowl appearances in the last twelve or so years, Clemson is amazing. Give me one or two more -periences over the next three to four years, then I can call them a dynasty right now. They're just amazing. Yeah. I agree with you the thing that Clinton is missing right now is having won back to back national titles. Have they done that had they won three titles in four years four titles and five years three titles and five years something of that nature with the back to back, then I would say they're a dynasty. But right now, they're just damn good. That's what they are. Just a damn good. I think it's fair to say that they are only one percenters of college football in Davos looks like he's having a lot of fun doing it. All right coming up. Also, we have our big bold predictions. And I cannot believe what you said Vilma. You're gonna turn some heads with yours. How about a little women's hoops Louisville Notre Dame you like that one to match up tonight seven PM eastern here on ESPN and streaming live on the ESPN app. And then sportscenter no other place to watch it all break down tonight Levin PM Michigan wolverines looking to stay undefeated Denver Nuggets playing some ball. And yeah, we go all school topped in LA football plays that coming up on sportscenter tonight. Take a look at the ESPN dot com way too early rankings for next season. No surprise Clinton. Bama at the top spots. Georgia Ohio State just missed the playoff. They are three four the rankings five of the top ten teams are from the SEC velva Clemson, Alabama five should we just buy the tickets right now. No should not. We got a big twelve winner. That's going to rain on that parade. We may have an SEC champion that'll rain on that parade as well. I sent him Mike was that Oklahoma or Texas that you're talking about the big twelve champion big twelve champion. All right. What do you say? I hear him sticking up for the big twelve. Yeah. Not so fast, ma'am burns. I think you're gonna have Georgia Florida LSU. They're going to be making some noise. Not forget about Texas and oklahom-. That's a big bold prediction. So all right. I'll show you go. Big bold prediction for twenty nine thousand nine is. You said bolt on giving your bowl. Jalen hurts wins the Heisman in twenty nine thousand nine. He's sacked. Another fiscal year for Alabama. He sacrificed enough of his career for Tesco LUSA. He's twenty six into the starter is Tom to pack up changed the crimson go to the maroon go down there to Norman they already want to heismans back to back with quarterbacks. Dalen hurts. It's your time to shine. What what is he going to do is going to win the Heisman? Jalen hurts who got beat out and Alabama with better wide receivers. He's going to win the Heisman. Hey, Lincoln, Riley proves you guys wrong. What do you guys Vilma? Wow. Well onto wow. I don't know what to say about that. I do know that you mentioned Georgia being a possible playoff contender. And I got Florida beating Georgia in the SEC. Matter of fact, I got Florida going into the SEC championship and possibly renting in on Alabama's parade. They had their top quarterback. They have the top receiver. They have their top running back all coming back and they look good against Michigan. So get ready Florida is at three. All right. How about this get the wedding bells ready? This is my prediction the wedding of the years that a Royal wedding. But it's ten people Demi Lee knelt Peterson graduations 2017, Miss Universe. Tim Tibo off the market on. What are you going to get him? Man. I honestly, I don't know yet. But the hottest created I guess off the market villainy. He likes to wear tight jeans tight shirts. So I'll buy and we'll be back ESPN two college football. I.

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Heart of Texas; Asia Durr

"The he's around the rim with let China Robinson. Bat ball fans, it is twenty nineteen. And it's your first official episode of around the room of the new year. We are your ESPN w women's basketball podcast. I'm your host Lucina Robinson joined by my fantastic and fabulous producer to Rica foster Bradsby, whose daughter Jada is trying out for the basketball. See? Hey, we're so excited for Jada. Good luck. Good luck. Baby. I'm going to be that, mama. Yes. Oh, gosh. Yes. Regal stopping by practice today. And I made her promise that she is just going to not say anything, but to Rica was a Hooper and did take Jada down in the low block. No. No. But she did take her home and show her some of her medals and trophies to hopefully, put a pressure. I'm just getting Lumo nation encourage inspire Jada, so our fingers across and I know you'll keep us updated with that speaking of updated. We've got a great podcast for you today to guests number one. We have the care Lawson in the building who if you don't know. Now, you know is an MBA analysts women's college basketball analyst WNBA USA basketball, head coach, I'm probably missing something. Because care does it all, but she's going to drop the knowledge on us on this podcast. She actually was on the call for the big upset. That's right. I don't know if you've been under a rock or what you've been doing. But you con- went down. They lost to the Baylor lady bears. Congratulations to Kim. Mulkey. Her team who put on a phenomenal effort at the Ferrell center. Front of ten thousand which I love call games Ferrell center that place is rocking. Okay. So just know that you need to get to Waco, but kalani Brown and company did with a lot of people think is impossible and has been for for for much of Connecticut's existence under Gino Auriemma, but they beat the husky so CARA, and I will talk about that game. And just some general women's basketball stuff. We also have Asia dirt on the show. If you don't know who hashtag night night is that would be the one and only Asia team lefty representing the AT L Louisville cardinals. She is incredible. If you haven't seen her play you'll get to see her play this Thursday on the big stage seven PM on ESPN because the Louisville cardinals are taking their undefeated record to number one Notre Dame. That's right. As of today. The Irish are the number one team in the country Louisville is number two. So that's a huge matchup coming. Thursday. So let's hear a little bit from Asia Dir before that game. This is a prerecorded interview that we did with her at national media day. So we've got a lot to get to in the show. And we've got a lot to get to an around the room leading up to Tampa to the final four. So sit back relax and enjoy care Lawson in Asia. All right basketball fans. We're going inside the huddle because there are people that are much smarter about basketball than I am. And we're grateful to have one of those basketball minds on the podcast today. Please join me and welcoming none other than women's college basketball and in BA analysts care Lawson to the show. Welcome cara. Thank you for having me WNBA forget that. And I had our first season together this summer, we are excited to have care on WBZ at college basketball too. What do we own that honor CARA? What are you in the midst of because your schedules crazy for the fans that have not caught up with all of the different basketball, you're covering, and let's not forget, she's also a USA basketball head coach, what is your schedule. Like right now this time of year. Once the calendar turns to January, I think everyone that's involved in college basketball. Or is it a college basketball fan is is mandated with games, right? That's just kind of how are your are your work. So I'm no different. Once was January starts, I'm usually working for two five games week with my wizard schedule. Obviously the NBA plays eighty two games. So there's there's games, you know, most most days a lot of travel involved with that the nice thing about my MBA schedules at I do the same team every night for the most part. So I I have a really good feel obviously for the wizards. And and where we are in our season. And then also in January this time of year, you start to get repeat opponents in that that's always helpful because you've already seen that team this season. So I start to hit a good little rhythm in. January with with the NBA schedule and things start to get cranked up. One was college basketball. We had our first Thursday game big Thursday game last week, Yukon and Baylor. We have another one this week Louisville Notre Dame, which the new polls came out, which is not one versus two which is very exciting. You we had a one versus two earlier this year with uconn and Notre Dame. So so that starts to go into focus and really start narrowing down on on teams and start preparing the long road to Tampa to the final four and start looking at teams through that lens. I watch games in women's college basketball in November and December. But I try not to make too many sweeping judgments about who teams are at that point. Because teams changed so much over the course of the year, and in January you start to see in conference play with better competition, and obviously more games under their belt. You start to see. Teams foundation solidify and get to see who they really are as a group. So now, a is a really big valuation time for me as as I'm preparing for for the countdown to the final four and cost. I guess it's three months three months from today the national championship. I think April April seventh in there you go. Well with all that going on. We are excited to have you on especially because you did call that Yukon Baylor game and to get us started. Let's just here a little bit from Kim. Mulkey in her thoughts after the Kim. Shift talk number one for the first time in your career for the first thing. She said is where's my grandbaby? What's your mind right now? This is the second game eighty second lady game. Let me tell you what our kids played so Dohrn aboard Holly guarded. They defended listened to the scout report. You know, I think the Stanford halls us. And we're pretty good basketball team. And when week lay this way cake day, Beth these fans look around the Serena schools out we don't even have our students here, and they came they did their job. Our team did their job. Tremendous basketball game, great for women's basketball. You talked about that Stanford game kalani Brown with five points. What did you do between then and now to get her at her peak performance tonight challenger, keep them motivated Keefer hungry senior? Sometimes have a tendency not necessarily lose focus. But what else can you teach them after three years? So you got to figure out ways to motivate them and brought her in Cox in my office. You're too good. Only get seven shots. I don't care if you're double triple team, you'll get some offense boards DD riches defense on Samuelson gift Biftek kit credits state on the floor didn't go for the shot. Thanks. Thank you. Say did job grandma. Thank you. Holly. That was the voice of our very own Holly Rowe who asked the best questions and she used to go when it comes to that. And Kim mulkey who was holding her grandson. But Adam Amine was on the call as I say care Lawson was on it and Kim, okay? Touched upon a lot of things that I I'd like to talk to you about care the Ferrell center. I tell people all the time how hard it is to pay their. I mean, there were ten thousand two hundred eighty four people's let's start with that. Like, it's not an easy place to play and not everyone has been to Waco. So they don't understand what that environment is like, but she talked about their defense, and you con was held to twenty nine percent shooting from the field thirty four from the three point line. What stood out to you about the way Baylor defended Yukon game care? They had so many positive positive things. I think the first thing that stood out was they have a team that's uniquely quip to guard Yukon. So you know, a lot of people were asking me after the game. You know, what is this a blueprint? Now, you know, how to be Connecticut, which we get those questions a lot after it loses its credit to their program because they very often. But I my answer was yes, you have Baylor's players, right? You have if you have those type of athletes. Yeah. They they had terrific. They have terrific links. But not just in the post their guards as well Richards in Jackson have have good links when they go with Smith at the three in Cox and Brown cross that. Line. Now, you you you have tremendous size in like, so I thought that link bothered Connecticut. This this version of the huskies does not enjoy terrific size. Besides Katie who Samuelson? You know Dangerfield is smaller for her position. Kristen Williams is I don't think she's smaller, but she's not super long. This is a call your for being a center is not very long making Walker for being a powerful word is not very long. So all of a sudden now you have this length advantage. I thought Baylor had the athleticism advantage as well over all. And I thought that bothered bothered Connecticut. And then there their intelligence and their disciplined, which which can touch on that post game interview as well. Too. Play the actions the way that they that their coaches taught them to play them and the discipline to continue to do it for for all four quarters. I thought that was the best best character trait of their of their win. And I just hadn't seen. It's been a long time a long time since I'd seen a defensive performance like that certainly against a team like Connecticut. I mean, it's just it seems like, you know, an oxymoron. You know, Connecticut's shooting poorly twenty nine percent that just doesn't seem to fit and right sentence in the same sentence because that's one of their strongest traits as a as a program as their offensive efficiency it has been for for many years now. So that was a I was surprised that. That they were able to disrupt their resum from for most most of the game. Not because I didn't think they're good just because we don't usually see that see you Conn disrupted for that long. Yeah. I love the way described in the game. You said Baylor took the beautiful out of yukons offense. Which is so perfectly said and for people that didn't get to watch. It didn't know the numbers making walkers three for ten crystal dangerfield's for for eighteen from the field. Kristen Williams three for six if he's the Collier was six for eighteen and Katie loose Samuelson was four for sixteen. I wanna talk a little bit about kalani Brown because it was you know, we heard her conversation there, actually, we listened to it earlier. Sorry, but she did talk to Holly after the game just about how Kim challenged her and Kim talked about it, you know, after the Stanford game. But you know, she is often mentioned the pressure. That's on her that she feels to make it to the final four. I mean, she'll graduate, you know, with in in the record. For Baylor and be one of the greatest players in it, just it doesn't happen that the great players from Baylor. Don't go to a final four. So she feels some pressure in that sense. But in this particular game, she ended up with seventeen rebounds in twenty two points. And she started out really with some jump shots showing us her high post game, and she'd come on the podcast early this year and talked about, you know, how she watches the WNBA, and you know, that has made her one extent her game in the player, she watches, and you know, like Stephanie Dawson and how she wants to add that to her game. But she was also contesting for him it or shots early. I thought it was interesting that a few shots that Megan Walker missed where because kalani Brown was coming out me. She's six seven, right? And you know, I'm just curious. Your overall thoughts on her, you know, not only her time at Baylor. But then you know, what you think she may be capable of the at the next level. Laughing during the broadcast when she'd make these shots, and it wasn't at all. Because I was surprised or you know in shock or anything like that. It was just it was more of like come on like this. This is players this big and this stoppable Kush to the basket. And now shouldn't making jumpers like. That's not fair Okay. That's not. That's not fair. What what are you supposed to do when she made blow them? It was. I mean, I think the second one I started laughing like, I I don't know what you're supposed to do. Because this is what you're consigning. Because ultimately as a defensive game plan, you have to concede something, right? Like, you're you're not going to say, we're gonna shut down this. And we're shutdown that we're gonna shut down like the waters gotta go somewhere. Right. Water's still gotta flow. So you can't shut down every everything. That's clearly what you conduits conceding. The jump shots to the post players kalani made them. Pay. Lauren. Cox got great, Luke. She didn't really make them pay too much with their outside shot. But no, I think I think. The size and the strength of of kalani is is an issue, and it it's an issue at any level. It's an issue at the WNBA levels. Well, even though there's more players with size, and there's more players without are strong. But it's still an issue to to defend her the the questions that need to be answered in in my mind for kalani at the next level are obviously defensively ball screen action or defensively defending a post player that's facing you up. And now all of a sudden taking you off the dribble. How do you handle that? And how do you keep yourself ineffective player in that sense? They run a lot of drop coverage with her and in college, which is just the post player being depressed until they force that jump shot by by the guard coming off or. That's what they're conceding is that long to the guard going over the top doesn't defender. Not many kids in college can hit that consistently. But in the pros that can so the there's some there's some things there that I think, you know, you could you could certainly have her coach say Hyder because that implies that she's not she's not capable, but you could find ways to to try and alleviate some of those blind spots in their game per se may maybe they're not like, maybe she'll get up there, and she'll be able to handle it. But we just haven't seen enough or I haven't seen enough sample size for the college level doing some of those those pro things where you have to be out on the floor. And and. Nor should you. 'cause I mean, if I had her in college, too, I would put her in the paint and say stop it, you know, work change when you stop it. Then don't so. Yeah, that's kind of what I see you know, what I see for her. But certainly the ability to hit that shot. It's never like I I never watched a player in and say I and I don't know if you have. But I've never watched the players that you know, what they're to versatile. Like, I don't know how how I can deal with that. Right. You know, like they they have their good at too many things. Right. Like, there's never thing. Usually, just okay. She's limited here. She's limited there. So I think her her getting more confidence in her jump shot is only positive thing. I don't know if you're necessarily going to call for picking pop with her on an open side for a game winning three. Maybe not. Okay. Right. But, but I think that's a that's a positive thing to keep people honest if she's able to hit that was regularity at the next level. That's certainly would maybe put some indecision and coaches is in terms of how they. Play a pick and roll action with her if she able to consistently hit that. Yeah. You know, it's it's I mean, I've I've enjoyed watching what the bigs are doing just the evolution, you know, especially at the WNBA level. But I one thing I find fascinating is that Kim mulkey has never moved away from a big post, you know, like in the day of even the small ball movement, which you know, you could say still alive, whatever, you know. Everyone wants that five player that could step out and shoot it Kim has consistently wanted a big body on the block, right? And in a game. Like, this you see especially with the size of Lauren Cox who had five blocks. I mean, they caused all kinds of trouble in terms of Khan's ability to get even high percentage shots in the lane. But now people are saying, you know, oh that Baylor's now they're they're national championship contenders. And I mean, you could probably speak for what a win like that does for a team right in terms of their own confidence. But when you look at the landscape of women's basketball right now, I'm just curious. You know, maybe that's the. Thing that's happening now Notre Dame. As of today is number one in Louisville's number two and those who team square off on Thursday, which will be amazing but coming into this week, Maryland lost to Rutgers. We mentioned, you know, Yukon loss. Tennessee loses to Missouri. Minnesota lost twice. Michigan state went down cow loss to UCLA. They they have had just a terrible. You know, says their lost a Harvard seemed I don't know what's going on there. Texas AM laws twice. I mean, there there just seems to be a lot of movement this week in particular. I in big tin really kind of stood out to me with you know, Michigan and Illinois northwestern, you know, Indiana getting wins against teams, but what stands out to you just in general right now if anything about what you see happening is things are shaping up and we head towards the final four in Tampa. I think that I think the the top of the. Raking is flat as we've seen it in a while. Right. So I paid more of a topsy turvy year, particularly in the power conferences, Yukon, obviously, you know, is not going to have the same type of rigorous conference schedule as you know, big ten team mode or an ACT mode. It's not I'm not knocking the American just going by the numbers. Right. So so that's what I've seen of the teams that I've seen. I think the big ten it's going to be so compelling the race had five Michigan state a couple of times. I had I've had Iowa and. I I don't know who's gonna win that league. There's a lot of good teams. You know, the ACC obviously Notre Dame and Louisville is at the top, you know, the Pac twelve although, you know, I I think we should mention you know, injuries. Obviously NC state lost a big piece. Enter Stanford lost ninety fingle Oregon state lost cat, tutor or mums. So there, you know, those those things even though we, you know, we don't like them. And they're they're one of the worst parts of the game. They're part of it. And so as you go through the season, two injuries change change teams as well. And certainly I think those injuries could impact the Pac twelve race because both of those players for Stanford and Oregon state we're playing really well in Stanford has some other injury injury issues as well. So I think there's I think there. Our number of teams that are final four capable. Okay. Book getting there. I've seen a number. It's funny. You say people saying that Baylor's national championship contender after they beat uconn. I thought they were before they were when I saw them, you know, first gaming year, we had him to get there's on the state, and you know, they weren't finished product. But I thought that their guards continued to improve that they're they're gonna be right there with with every other team in the country. So they're yeah. There's there's a there's a group of good teams and. I wouldn't be shocked. If anyone in the top ten and it makes the final four, and I wouldn't be shocked. If I mean, I'd have to look at the fifteen, but you know, I wouldn't be shocked. If it stretched down the fifteen if a teammate the final four that's the thirteenth or fourteenth best team. You know rank. And I think I think it could go on down that low depending on how everything how everything shakes out in high income into the season feeling like that. I mean, I I think that number has stretched I mean, I think I came in with like, okay? Seven eight I think my cut off at that point was like Stanford. They may have been number seven or eight or you know, somewhere in there to start the season. But I've seen vulnerability like I've seen being Yukon obviously vulnerable in you know, you may have known that before Baylor. But you definitely you see it. Now, there's a certain type of team, I think they're you know, they're vulnerable. I mean, I obviously Baylor the size. I mean. I'd love to see them play Mississippi State. Right. Oh, and how would how would that impact? But I it's it's it's all matchups in the March. It depends on who your who your paired with certainly Notre Dame is is capable of beating Connecticut, even though Connecticut beat them already this season. We'll have you come over later in the season. So we'll get a chance to to see those teams square off. But yeah, there's there's a I'm excited. I mean, it makes me I mean, you talk about coming off the final four, and we all came off with last year. And then you go into this year. And like I said, I think it's flags that's been at the top and a while. And then I look at all the good players that are coming into college next year and the year after. It's exciting. You know, exciting to to see how the game is is is evolving, and I think from a big picture standpoint. For a lot of things the the flatter the top is the more compelling. It is and the more fan base is that you're bringing into the, you know, bringing into the whole thinking that they have an opportunity to to win. Yeah. It's going to be a fun ride now. So you're calling Louisville at Notre Dame Thursday. Awesome shelf in going. I can't wait number two at number one. As of earlier today, the AP poll at seven o'clock eastern standard time on ESPN. Here loss of will be on the call that is a number one reason to turn to tune in. We would love to have you on the show more. Even just listening to you talk about the future basketball. You're seeing that in USA basketball. And we those are all things that we definitely need more inside on on this show. So even though you're so busy. We hope time for Tariq. It I care. You're the best. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hey basketball fans, if you want to be the first to get around the rim podcast, make sure that you are subscribed. No matter what podcast app. You have fixture. You a clicking around the rim. 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I'm gonna say you can probably blame to Rico that only have ten minutes with Asia Dir because she should've had you on it. She should've had you feed. Dow's at girl, right? Vance. Welcome Louisville's finest Asia dirt to the show and weight, and I should say ATS fine too. Because we always. Yeah. We always got to connect on the AT L. Yeah. It is our city that is our city, but we were just talking before we started podcast about the WNBA. And I remember looking up in the stains Atlanta dream game. Now, it's like Asia-Europe there. And I did get a chance to catch up with you. But I know you watched a lot of it this summer, and how great it was when when you were up there watching what goes through your mind when you're looking at WNBA players a lot, you know, those like how they play as crazy like no, you have college in colleges like very talented. But then you have that next up which is pro like these are real pros. Like, this is what they do. There's no more like classes going to class school. This is what they do. They live eat and breathe it. So it's like you got like clearly till they I I was just thrown thrown off by like. How hard they play how strong they are. How physical the game is like those posts those guards. You know, everybody is so strong in the game is quicker to quicker than college. That's exciting though. Like, that's really exciting. Just how they all can score. Everybody can score the post can score the guards. I mean, obviously the guards can but like you have post driving like remnant rim. You have of course, brittney Griner Dunkin. It like you don't really see that too much in college. But I mean, it was pretty cool to see all of that. Yeah. I mean, and you're gonna be there soon. And actually, a little birdie told me, I just use that phrase. We'll get guy gave it away. But that when you were working out with the women's national team, you know, you had an opportunity to play with some of the the the best that you were holding your own really? What was what was that like for you that experiences? Oh, I'm glad they said the up in. But I mean to be on the floor with. Some of the greatest players of all time was humbling like I mean, it was just I was happy to be there. I didn't care if I just wanted to be a part of that. Like, I just I wanted to be able to watch in person how they play like just to be on the same cortisol innocent team scrimmage too. I mean, I was awesome. I'm I'm so thankful for that. And I was just trying to play hard and just pick their brain pick, sues brain, all of them. I mean, they're they're great at what they do. So I wanted to know how did you get there? 'cause I'm trying to get to where you are. Right. Right. Right. Well, you got another chance to win a national championship this year. And this time last year, and I'm trying to think of when we were in Columbus for that kick off tournament it was in November. But this not last year, we were probably like, okay Asia Dir Louisville will be hoisting the trophy next year. Okay. Like this. You know, we just felt like yeah. This is going to be her year. This is going to be Louisville's year. Where do you feel like you guys fell short and have to get over the hump? If you wanna make it happen this season without Misha Hines alad, right? A big piece, of course. But it's the small breakdowns. We can't really have breakdowns because when you're playing against those great teams where you want to have as few as breakdowns as possible on those impossible to not have them, but you want to minimize them. And that's what costs those in the final four was a small breakdowns that we had a thought we played hard. You know, obviously. I mean, they have a great team. They're very talented in coach by great coach. But it was. Those breakdowns that we had everybody thinks about that last second shot that she hit. But you have to think about the things that let up to that play. You know? So we watched the film. It took me almost two months to watch it out. I'm going to say, how did you get over that moment where you coach them was in my ear every day watched FM washed up. I'm like coach I'm trying just one step at a time. I'm trying to heal from this first. And then I can watch it. But no, I mean, it was great. You learned from games like that the ones that really hurt. Those are the ones we really want to watch because you could grow so much and I'm not now last season. And I was just looking you have a chance to repeat as ACC player of the year last player to do that was Elissa Thomas of Maryland who it was so long ago that they're not even in the CCD more, but nineteen points per game. You had one hundred fifteen three pointers where was your focus in in the off season. In terms of how you can improve your game in and hopefully be ACC player of the year. Again this past year. I was just working on things my mind strengthening that of course, I was trying to get, you know, stronger too. But the basketball is always gonna be there. I mean, I'm always in a gym. But it's not just that this is the smaller things to such as strengthening your mind getting your body right healthy where you could play for about six months. It's you know, go that that was the most important thing for me. I took some time off and just got my mind ride and had some family time at home and things like that. So I mean, I had a pretty great summer. Yeah. I was gonna say I remember, we'll just listening. First of all, I know how close you are to your family important that aspect of life is to you. But I the mental part of the game is NASA. Verdict. I think people probably don't prepare for as much as they need to have. Do you grow the mental side? Like, what wooded you focus on doing? Was it rest was it, you know, mental toughness exercises like how do you improve that aspect? Exactly. Well, starting off. I I have a counselor beg at school. We have a very a great sports psychologist at school were she's I personally feel like she's one of the best on in the game. But I talk with her, and I meet with my counselor. I meditate too. So things like that. Just find. A piece, but I actually I got Tom the whole month of July coach, let me go home and just get my mind right in my body for this big year coming up, and that was just the two most important things. I tried to do and just. I took trips down to Florida. I went to the be. China was so much fun. It's got away from everything. Right. I mean, that's when you become fresh when you actually get to see the beach the sun spend time with your family because you really don't have that much Thomas been with your friends and family. So that's what I try to do. 'cause I know. Like soon as I'm done playing here college. There's no more family time. All right, Gregg, which is I mean, I don't care. But I just I wanted to spend that last time. Yeah. It them would has my issue shared with you about what you can expect that she said anything about WNBA. What'd she say? I tell this funny story all the time. Well, so in college, we have a trainer that takes you to all your doctor's appointments, you whatever you need to take you. So she had a physical soon as she got to Washington and she asked to change. Okay. Well, what time are you coming to get me? And it was like you gotta find your own weight areas. You like what did not expect this? She told me she was like, yo that was burst layup that was the first change. I did not know was going to happen. But, you know, also chartering to you charter in college. So she's like it's way. More traveling now waiting for your bag is clay you like what is that about? I don't know anything about that life. So, but I mean, she she loves it. She's had so much fun. I got to see her play a few times in person. So she's just living her dreaming. I'm so proud of her. Yeah. Me too. You know, she's got she's got her footing. You know? And it's a great place to be Washington with everything they have going on for them right now. But it's it's funny to hear you say the first thing, I always say student athletes is like listen when you're in college. That's the last time you're gonna have that many people in one place that just care about you to the next degree like, you know, like you have everyone in like on the college campus from academics to your coaches. They're all invested in you. And when you get to like, the WBA, I mean people care about you. But it's a job. Right. It's a job. Right. It goes to being a business. Like you said that's what they do for a living is play basketball. Does that excite you like the thought of like, no more class? I just focused on basketball. I could jump out this chair right now. Yes. Oh my goodness. Yes. I haven't been a big, of course, school is very important until kids that all the time. But I just wanna hope like I just wanna play in. That's it. Like, you got study hall like in the morning, you got practiced enough to practice. You think you've done for today? No. You got tutoring. Right who three hours worth of tutoring. And then after that, I'll go back and train. But I just want to bask. What us all I want to ask a ball? But I'm a enjoyed his last few months of school finished strong. And then after that is just Tom to hoop time to go. Well night night is been activated for the season. Now, we know what night night mid last year right is like okay lifestyle. You know? I mean, you came out the gates beginning of season. Like just with a killer mentality. Does nine nine mean anything different this year? Same thing. Same thing put him to sleep code Samper. So you hear them all the time on a bench night soon as I should at the night ninety two loud is one. But I love it. I love it is it means the same thing. Yeah. Put them to sleep. Well, we're excited. To see you play not only here Louisville everything you do. But at the next level and keep rep not ill. I sure will. Thank you. Let's all right Asia. Dr people that concludes our show, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning into around the rim. We'll be back next week with another great show with all your favorite women's basketball, endless players coaches to recognize be here, of course, because three Bahasa put up with me. It's part of our job about that. We. We will talk to you next week. Don't forget to engage with us on social media and share around the room with your friends that like women's basketball. We like them to. Thank you hashtag around the room. We'll see you next week. Thank you for listening to around the rip checkout more podcasts from ESPN on the ESPN.

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#59 - Adam Amin

The Her Hoop Stats Podcast

38:54 min | 9 months ago

#59 - Adam Amin

"The names behind the numbers the stories behind the names. This is the hoop stats. Podcast with John. Little I'd just know from my teeth. It felt like one of those seminal days at a lot of people are going to talk about for a long time. We said that towards the end of the broadcast last night. I just feel like this is one of those days where people will remember it. The biggest news makers the best storytellers. The her keeps doubts. Podcast here's your host John Little. Well well well that incredibly Stanzi music could only mean why Mitt thing we are back on the hoop stats podcast. Gray tabby here. I'm your host John. Little welcome into the show and I missed you. Make sure that you are subscribing to the podcast. If you're finding is for the first time maybe you clicked on our newsletter and it took you hear the podcast and you're like what is this. This is awesome. I hope you're saying that. And I hope you're also hitting subscribe right after that wherever you get your podcast and also of course if you listen on Apple podcasts. We're doing great on the ratings. Keep him coming. Whatever you think deserves four stars. Five Stars Stars. Five stars is always really awesome. And we appreciate that. Make sure to review it as well. Oh by the way our email is podcast at her hoop stats dot Com podcast at her hoop stats dot com. If you ever want to reach out to us our guest today is a personal hero of mine. You know if you've been listening to the show for any length of time big play by play. Guy Radio for a long long time only recently was forced into the TV side of things kicking and screaming. No I'm kidding but I've really enjoyed it but one of the guys that I have watched very intently to see how he does his craft is Adam Amine and Adam of course is the eighteen voice the play by play Voice of Women's College basketball on ESPN and man. He does a terrific job helping to lead that crew and he was on the call on Monday night win. Sabrina skew eclipse the two thousand one. Thousand One thousand mark grab that one thousand three bound had her twenty sixth triple double as well just an incredible night onto twenty four twenty all came together on one evening and of course. He's gotten a call a lot of incredible games. Over the past three years we think about a Rica Walis game winners in the semifinals in the championship. Game in two thousand eighteen and then so many more but this one was really really special so I feel so privileged to be able to have talked to Adam right after this game went down less than twenty four hours after he called it I caught up with him from his place in Chicago and just asked him what his raw reaction was to what he experienced on. Monday night at Stanford I feel like this is I I I hesitate sometimes because I don't WanNa overblown things. I don't want to put too much on the actions of a twenty two year old kid you know and and I and I also hesitates in kid. Because I feel like Sabrina showed us. She's anything but a kid Not just last night. Put throughout the day yesterday with per performances not You know plural I. I don't want to over blow this. I don't WanNa make it seem like it's more than it is but it really fell. Like a seminal moment for. I think women's College basketball. And maybe I am overblown but I do just feel like I think like I think. Back to like great. Nba Moments Junkie. And I grew up on it I grew up in Chicago. I grew up in the Jordan era and I watched all these dramatic performances. That just kind of built up this legacy and this legend about about you know one of the great players in the history of that particular sport and to see that kind of translate over to Koby Bryant at the C. You know these impressive and legendary performances. That are kind of indelible in our heads. I. I don't know how to put this game or this day. You know this. This past day in perspective properly I just know from my seat. It felt like one of those seminal days that a lot of people are going to talk about for a long time. We said that towards the end of the broadcast last night. I I just feel like this is one of those. That was one of those days where people will remember it and not just. Hey that was cool that we have a two thousand one thousand one thousand player which is an incredible accomplishment ended of itself but to do it in the type of matchup to do it on the road to do it against the top five teams do it against a conference rival with the championship online and then to to have all of that take place after what had clearly been an emotional day for the basketball world at large and to have somebody perform the way they did in a game knowing they have that connection with two people that have clearly left an imprint on our thoughts about college of a basketball. Excuse me and to have that person with that connection not only honor that connection in person in a city three hundred four hundred miles away and then to come arrive clearly not one hundred percent to perform the way she did and set the record and to do it in front of Some impressive people and to do it against a really good team. I it's just. There's so many storylines that I just feel like are GonNa feed into what what was clearly a legendary performance and again. I hesitate sometimes because I don't WanNa make it bigger than it is. It's just one game. It is fun. Cool record but you know we really. Do we really care about records and things like that that much you know. Your mileage may vary on that from my seat. I just feel like all of these thoughts and emotions that I've just now started to really think about Johnson's. You asked a great question. I really feel like it's one of those days that a lot of basketball fans we're GONNA remember for a long time for multitude of reasons but what you said it so much better than I could have but at the same time this is. That's exactly what I was thinking that we knew two thousand one thousand one thousand was coming barring injury this season we could see that was coming. Maybe from the middle of last season we could see eventuality but for everything to come together on that night. And I know you're not about you being the story line but but ESPN two is there. It's the broadcast team. All that stuff I you know I. It really is kind of a fairy tale. Some positive some negative type movie script. Let's go with that. Because I know you love movies The movie script type storyline. It's almost like it was. It was planned somewhere other than other than earth here. There's there's a a universal alignment to this right. There's a date you know. Obviously February twenty fourth was set as the Memorial Day for the reason for that reason. Because it's two in twenty four But you know it's the ADS. Rina's his number you know. Be Twenty and it's you know it's all part of the data again is that. Is that coincidental? Yes probably probably is but I think the romantic and all of us and the fan and all of us and the person who looks at sports as a fulcrum for multiple things not just as an entertainment piece. I think all of us that part inside of us wants to believe that the universe kind of align just right for you know this particular bubble of the world to enjoy it and to appreciate it and I think that's that's kind of what it's about to be able to put some of these things into proper perspective and maybe it's not proper to them into a perspective that people can latch onto and can understand and process and absorbed in a way that makes us appreciate it on a level equal to you. Know what we men's basketball or the NBA or the WNBA. Or whatever it may be you know. There's a lot of layers to this to want. Sabrina did and obviously the accomplishment individually and his team. They're both very important and very impressive but I do feel like there. There are some there this is a little bit of a seminal moment. I WANNA see more people. Just look at the sport of basketball and not have this gender line be drawn on it and I was saying again not to make this heavier than it is job. But it's just something. I was thinking about last night. I was sitting at the airport after the game getting ready to red eye all and I just kept thinking to Myself Blake I. Why can't people appreciate this as much as they like? If this were as I on Williamson a year ago doing something like this and says I was a four year starter and one of the most popular players in the country and he pulled off something like this. We would treat treat them as if you were the greatest thing. That's ever touched the game of college basketball and I. I'm sure some people do feel that way about Sabrina. Those who are fans those who are entrenched in the sport you know and I I happen to be one of those people but I also call the NBA. And I call men's basketball and I call college football the NFL and college softball and Major League Baseball. I see all these sports and I see these levels of appreciation for these marks records that get said and broken and reset and redefined and I just. I want that same appreciation to be placed on this accomplishment. And I think because it's Sabrina. Because it's an amazing story because these universal elements all seem to align together a little bit. I hope that people's appreciation of this moment of the record of the day of the night all all kind of arrive where they're supposed to arrive. 'cause I really do think it was an important night legacy I don't WanNa make it bigger than it is but I do think it's very important relative to what we're talking about like. I think there are a lot of people that feel exactly the same way so I don't think anybody that's listening to this is going to fall to you at all. I want to hear about technically dancing through the story lines last night because it was not only Well it's it's everything we've already talked about. Okay yes absolutely remembering Kobe. And G G remembering you know honoring Sabrina for what she was about to do with two K One k one K and then at the same time. She's got a triple double that eventually. She grasps as well her twenty six and you guys as a as a program as a show did a great job of moving through those storylines throughout the night but then not you know and then giving the game. It's due to when you had to do that. How difficult is that? And how much better as a broadcaster have you gotten at that as you start to work into whatever whatever it is a decade now As a professional. How much better have you gotten at being able to do that? Because that's just that's hard to do to to spin all those plates. I'll say this I and I don't mean to sound Sound like Again overblown anything. I think we did a great job. I was very very proud of the team. Effort that our our crew crew applied to that broadcast last night. It starts with Gerry Callahan. Our producer and Jimmy Platter Wonderful Director and a very Heavy truck Production truck that that really invests in cares about the product of putting out there And then my partner's last night with China Robinson and Rebecca Lobo We all knew what we were getting into. We all knew what was at stake for us in TV. This is what you know these are. This is a national championship caliber of storyline. You know this is this is we came into this game knowing what was happening and we treated it like it wasn't national title type of game With the C in terms of care and in terms of awareness and trying to be on top of all these storylines so I credit the crew first and foremost for kind of navigating this. But but I say that to say this. The timing in the pacing of the game really was fortunate as well We knew the number was nine coming in for Sabrina. To get that before the end of the third quarter and to kind of almost get that out of the way so to speak in fact for her to get her eighth rebound when she needed nine to get her eighth rebound before a time out so that when we come back we know the next one is the one like. That's a fortunate bounce that you can't necessarily plan for you. Hope for something like that and when it lands in your lap you go off. Thank God we. We got a little bit of a break there. You know. That's that's a big break and I don't know if anybody sitting at home when necessarily realize that unless they work in a TV truck and they're working within the constraints and the and the restrictions and limitation of what a TV broadcast does for a college basketball game on the women's side we have X. amount of breaks. We know when those breaks come. We don't know when a time out is going to be called him. He may step aside We have all these elements that may or may not be used depending on the time and scoring situation. And when we're going to a break or for coming back from one you know we have steph curry. Who's ready to do an interview with us in the second half and we don't want to lose that but we can't start an interview with. Steph curry of Sabrina has got seven rebounds because what if she gets to back to back? Now we've lost the moment you know I it's in. These are the elements that are not that not a lot of people would would know about nor should they. That's not job sitting at home to know about these things. It's my job and carries job and Rebecca's job China's job in Jimmy's job and everybody else's job to know those things. It's not your job so our goal is to bring all of this to you as fluidly and as cleanly as possible but the game sometimes does its job and helps us out and I think last night the pacing the timing of the game the moments the numbers themselves and Wednesday showed up. I think that was very fortuitous for us as well. So you know some nights. It's great like that it just is and I've been lucky to be in the chair for a Lotta great moments. But sometimes the moments time themselves in present themselves in a proper format and skeleton and structure. So you know not to undermine the work that we did because I was really proud of how he handled all that but I also think that the timing and the pacing of the game just felt right and maybe that is part of that universal elaborate. We were talking about before to no heck. Yeah I you know the. How many years is this for you as the lead broadcast on the women's basketball schedule this is my third year third year. Okay I you know as you've crossed over between the GUY's game in the women's game. Have you felt more acceptance among you know the even the broadcasters you work with on the guy's side or the people you hang out with on the side the NBA side then? Then you felt right at. I do feel there is progress being made is there? Is there momentum like it It kind of feels like on my it. I think so I feel it and it might just be. You know my own little bubble that I've I've worked in operated in for the last few years but I feel it and I think part of it is because it's basketball you know I. I've always said that you know and I. I've covered volleyball. I've covered I covered college softball I've covered a lot of women's sports in my career but basketball's though at least for me the the sport that parallels the men's game and you know like there's not really much of a difference you can make the dunking argument or the athleticism won't whatever like I think to me. It's basketball and I think the players who play the game and you saw that with Kobe's memorial like Diana Ross. He's up there and Sabrina up there. These are people that matter in their world's Diana might be the greatest. Wnba player ever. Sabrina is probably the most recognizable college player in the Women's game. Right now. Maybe the men's game to like she but these are important figures and there's not really much of a line being wrong that set for people who comment on twitter videos and on instagram posts. Like and I. I get frustrated with that sometimes too but I don't WanNa make that out to be the real world because it's not. It's a a slice of a very very small minority of people and their thoughts and feelings in knee-jerk moments. You know this is the first thought I have. I WanNa make a Snyder snarky comment or I want to say something derogatory or whatever it is and then I'm GonNa go back to my you know existence where this carries over like. I. I WANNA realize that the world that I operated when I go to games at Arenas and talk to players whether it's a women's player or immense player whether it's a college athlete or professional athlete I think in the sport of basketball. This is the most This is the sport where game recognizes game period and sentence. I think this is the sport. Wear the translation between male to female college to pro the respect level between pro and college the respect level between men and women. This is the sport that I think. Blurs those lines as as as well as any sport maybe the best of any sport and maybe soccer is in a two. You know we've watched the international game grow so much with the US national team and things like that. But I feel like in basketball that light blurs so much and it's a it's a good thing for the sport and I feel that talking to NBA guys like I. I'll tell you a story like a couple of years ago. When muffed McGraw's team won the national title? I you know that's early April when Notre Dame wins the national championship and that was the year that mcmuffin her team had more. Acl tears than losses. Right they have four players. Go Down with an ACL injury and a few weeks later. I was calling the NBA playoffs. I'm Brad Stevens Office. The head coach of the Celtics. And I've known Brad since I was a college student when he was at Butler and I was at Valpo and the first thing he wanted to talk about was method and how he wanted advice from fit and they wanted to exchange you know kind of strategies about how to deal with personnel issues. That was the Kyrie Irving had been banged up for the Celtics. They had dealt with a significant amount of injury. Dyer think that was the Gordon. Hayward got hurt within the first ten minutes of the season so even the coaching ranks not just the players. The coaches have respect for one another. You Know Gino. Rem Great. Boston Celtics are being Boston. Celtics fans goes to a lot of games. He's really close with a lot of these coaches and players like they don't see Gender Lights who you're coaching. What they don't care about that. I think players and coaches for the most part in the sport of basketball respect game they respect the strategy respect the coaching the respect. The work that it takes to be great at it relative to your level Scher. Do I WANNA do? I WanNa say that Sabrina could play in the NBA. No I don't want to say that I don't know that there's no examples of that. You know we we saw that story about Terachi and maybe Deladande maybe Subaru or you know players that you know the NBA players. That believe they could play. I trust their opinions on that more than I would. My I have seen an example but if they say and I believe and I just feel that respect is so universal in the sport of basketball and I wished that people outside the sport or people that are casual fans or maybe just fans of the NBA or fans of just. Men's college basketball would recognize that a little bit more because the players and coaches certainly do. That's an excellent distinction. That's good stuff. Adamant I really appreciate that I. I was curious about this at this point in the season do you know which regional you're going to be at or word. Is that wait until the bracket happens? Or how does that all get played out and decided or am? I asking a question and you're going to have to kill me if you answer it. No no not at all We don't know honestly don't know and and it's because we want to wait until the bracket plays itself out and all of us WanNa know you know who's going to be matched up with WHO and and I'm sure I don't know this for a fact but I'm sure this is kind of maybe how. Cbs and Turner do it too on the men's side. All right. What are the elite eight match ups. Potentially you know that we're gonNA see or what or what are the second round matchups. That might be intriguing. Yeah I know they do it. A little bit differently in terms of their structure the only eight teams in the first weekend where we have sixteen But in terms of regionals. But I think it's the same thing that they do. It's like what's the biggest story where are most important storylines whereas the most intrigue all right? Let's send a broadcast to that to that region and it's hard this year right because you have three essentially essentially dominant teams in South Carolina. Bail Oregon likely going to be in their home states to play the third and fourth rounds to play in the regionals to with a chance to go to the final four and then Fort Wayne is the one region. That's a little bit cloudy right now but you know for me. I just I I wait to see you know. And I think our entire organization waits to see what's the best spot to send this crew that through I haven't seen South Carolina yet and I don't think I'm talking out of school or anything like that. I'm going to get the assignment that I get and we're GONNA happily call it and then we'll be in New Orleans. That's all at the end of the day we get to call the final four and the National Championship. And that's all that's all that really matters but for me. I haven't seen South Carolina yet in person I would love to see South Carolina in person potentially but let's say you con- gets matched up with Oregon is that the most compelling story probably maybe that's the region we ended up in. If it's you know Louisville uconn in Fort Wayne is that a really compelling potential elite eight magic while maybe they decide they want you in South Carolina. We want Beth deb over in Fort Wayne. We think that would be a great region for them to call. That's great and I think with the kind of the spread of the story lines in this particular. Nca Tournament and again. This is more projecting ahead to the elite anything can happen in those first few rounds but projecting ahead to the elite eight there's a lot of spread of storyline. So I I honestly don't know where we'll end up We'll we'll obviously get the assignment when the brackets come out but I think this year unlike other years were you know we've been kind of locked in the Yukon Circuit Because they've had really compelling elite eight matchup South Carolina couple of years ago last year against Louisville. Those seem like the right places for our crew to be This year maybe a little bit different and at the end of it. All as long as we're indoor let's all the final four and April third. I'll be happy guy absolutely. I want to talk about your crew. A little bit because Rebecca's so well respected. And just she's so wise and yet so unassuming at the same time and she's not selfish as a broadcaster and I I don't mean that as a as a bad term bitchy doesn't try to step on you or anything like that and you really. You've got the you've got the stick and you lead the thing when you're working with Rebecca. I'm sure it's not the same way when you're working with some other analysts in basketball whether you're I know you've filled in for Bowles Games in the past and things like that how I don't want to say difficult. But how do you factor in having to work with different analysts? How do you do that and Is it something that's gotten easier over the course of your career? I think so. I think it's gotten easier every year and it's never easy to have to switch partners data in and day out. Not just the season season out. I I think if I go back and count Since I started working at ESPN I have worked with over. One hundred twenty analysts in different sports and I feel confident that I can get the best out of anybody but to your point about Rebecca. It's different working with Rebecca because first and foremost when you work at this level when you work at a hot the highest level of one particular sport and I happen to do that in in women's College basketball as far as I'm concerned Rebecca's the foremost authority on this sport as I think her pedigrees player college and pro Speaks for itself. I think our work as a broadcaster over a significant period of time in multiple roles studio and in game I think her pedigree speaks for itself. Well what's so great about Rebecca used the word unassuming. She is the most unassuming person you'd ever meet considering her pedigree and the fact that she's so joyous doing games she doesn't feel the necessity to be in the spotlight all the time and I want her to be there because I want her knowledge to shine. I want people to listen to the incredibly intelligent and entertaining things that Rebecca has to say about the sport that we get cover yet. She doesn't feel the necessity to have to be in that role. All the time I think anytime you do college basketball especially on site at partisan arenas especially great places that we go. South Carolina Yukon or against Stanford Louisville Notre Dame. These places that we get to go to Baylor you know the crowds are so good and college. Basketball lives up that and in the sport you know the the crowd is your number. Two Star and number one is the analysts because you want the analysts to be able to educate and enlighten and entertain anytime. They have something to say. And you want the crowd to fill in the rest and then figure out where I need to be you know and and I go back to even working with Cara and cares the exact same way as Rebecca. The reason they were so so great as a as a tandem of analysts working together I just feel like they know when the big moment is coming and they say it's your time and by your ater meaning the crowd or me and they're so respectful of that and I always wanted to make sure that I gave them and now just working with Rebecca giving her as much space as she desires so that when the biggest moments do come I trust that. I'll have that space to make sure I'm giving the moment. And she is so aware of that. She is so appreciative to get to see these moments that she doesn't want to step over them and I just I I appreciate that so much and by the way most analysts are like that but not everybody is so self aware in the moment while they're doing the biggest games in the biggest moments not everybody is a self wears. Rebecca is and I just give her all the credit in the world for recognizing that whether she realizes she's doing it or not and I think she does because she's just that intelligent and that aware but you know she she recognizes these moments and I wanna make sure the same way. She does the same way. The Holly Rowe does in all the China did a great job last night. Holly Rowe works with US Vinyl floor and on most of our games you know. They're they're so cognizant of that And I just appreciate that from you know two partners and I consider both of them partners. I don't think we're separate pieces. I I consider Rebecca and holly true partners in in the broadcast that we put up. And I'm very proud to work with them so I know that was a long answer but I feel like that. That really does encompass The type of people and broadcast today are absolutely and No I'm not going to allow you to apologize for long answers. I do not accept your apology. This is Subodh gas we gotta go right the viral video after a Gumbo three to win the national championship out of the corner. And you give the call and then the three of you just hang back in in two thousand eighteen and you just Kinda soak in the moment what led up to you guys having the synergy in the trust in each other in order to just decide that this is what we're going to do or no or was it the producer in your ear saying listen you know just lay out just let it let it breathe or did you know that was what's going to happen so you kind of I forget. It was Rebecca's shoulder who whoever show you lay on? You just take a rest for a moment is just a just a fascinating video video. What what led up to that. And what do you remember in that moment that you couldn't say on the air at that at that time? Yeah it's it's their knowledge of this of the time and score and situation in the moment in a liquid just talked about their so both of them were just so aware and I think those are those are kind of baseline big game broadcast rules. You want to get out of the way of those moments you want to let one of the best directors in television. You know we have Jimmy Plant. Who's just the Monday night football director? You WanNa let him cut with the amazing camera crew that he has a great technical director in Josh Miller. We want those pictures to show. And Karen Rebecca know that that's the biggest moment of the game. They know that that's the moment that's GonNa last forever. And they were so great and gracious to give me the space to make the call. And then I know that I wanNA make the call and get out of the way because I want Jimmy and the camera crew and those pictures to last forever and I want people to remember a reggae getting mobbed by teammates. I want people to remember. Tear mcallen's face. I'll still remember T- aerospace knowing that she just lost the National Championship. The jaw drop of muppet. Mcgraw when I WANNA say Can remember if it was Beth. Cunningham froze nail ivy. Somebody grabbed her but one of her assistants grabbed her and she just had. Her jaw was frozen open after that shot. And I I want those pictures to last forever as well and and in big moments you have to have the awareness and you have to know that that's what matters you know the call matters and then the pictures matter. The analysis doesn't need to be there without the replays. And the replays are GonNa come and I think when we were judged off of that I was proud to be judged off of that because that's the way it had been from the start and that's why Rebecca and I still work I think fairly seamlessly together Because that was born from the start of working with Cara and Rebecca and holly and a great production crew and that was born from doing you know Stanford Uconn in Ohio State Louisville in Columbus in. You know the winter of seventeen when we first started this project together and when we first got assigned to this together and for us to have these you know that level of chemistry and to have these types of moments to be able to exercise that chemistry and then to have the biggest moment in the biggest games you know to to be able to utilize that chemistry and to have that. Trust in one another you know. We've been lucky that six final four games together at all of them have been dynamite In terms of the level of excitement of all those games. They've given me the opportunity to have calls. That will last a lifetime and I again. I appreciate that thoroughly and I hope I just hope that we get something even remotely close to what we've had the last couple of years when we get down to New Orleans. I how many events are you doing in a typical year overall? Right now I I would say it's probably about a hundred and ten to one hundred twenty somewhere in that range You know we're just doing the math here. There are only three hundred and sixty six days in the years. So you know I know. A lot of them are back to back as well but at the same time you get very limited prep time. What are the biggest things? And I'm sure it changes by sport. Let's start. Let's start with women's basketball. What are the biggest things that you hone in on? And if you know that I've got this I'm good and I can move on and go on the air and know that everything's GonNa be okay. Yeah I think I think having been through the process as long as I have now In terms of prepping college basketball having an idea of where to look I you know what numbers what website what page on the team page What page in the game notes? What you know for me her hoops. That's has a great resource and you know I know the five pages I need to look at media leaves so that I have a great sense of of a team. I think having that process pretty much down pat has made things a lot easier. I would say the same thing for men's college basketball say the same thing for the NBA and gets easier as the season gets deeper. Because you do it more and more and more and so now it's this rhythm of all right. Let me look at the team stat. Page let me look at the players that are in the rotation. Let me look at the players that are not in the rotational separate. Those are my spotting board. All right I need. GimMe the leaders in rebounds assists steals and blocks. I just need the top two or three on each team on a really need to dive deeper beyond that. Okay I have those. Now let's look at The top scores on the team and what they've done as of late. Let's look at the bottom of the of the scoring rotation where their biggest contributions and and you just have a sense for this stuff and once you go through that process you know couple times a week usually at minimum frankly then then it becomes almost second nature and it becomes easier to go through that process over and over and over again and you know where to look and and I know I'm looking at Charlie brackets holly I know looking at her hoop stats offensive and defensive ratings. From last year and this year I know I'm looking at offensive rebound percentage. I'm looking at turnover rate and those are the few things I know I need to baseline be prepared and seal ready to go and for the most part. We're we're lucky because we're the a team and we cover a lot of the same teams. We Cover Oregon a bunch. We get you. Kinda re get baylor and we and we're GONNA get Stanford and Louisville and and we know some of the teams that we're going to have a chance to see but when we're in PAC twelve tournament mode and you know Oregon state gets upset by Arizona and we haven't done in Arizona game this year I well. Let's let's go through that process for this team that we haven't seen yet but we know how to go through that process again so it's not easy but it's it gets a lot easier as the season gets further and further down the line while Adam. I so appreciate your time. I'll leave you with this final note. What's the best meal that you've had in the year? Two Thousand Twenty. Where where do we have to go to to make sure we have the same meal that you had in your best meal in the last fifty days or whatever you know what it it'll it's actually very fitting so this year's College Football Championship game was in New Orleans Commander's palace is one of the best restaurants in the entire city. For those of you happen to be going down. Make your plans and reservations now. I think it's phenomenal. It is just an incredible menu. I- i- great bottles of wine. I it was a great meal that night. It certainly helps. When you have great company. I was with three close friends. Who are all down there covering the game as well and And I think a lot of people who are headed out New Orleans for the National Championship weekend. A college basketball this year. I think that'd be a great place beautiful. That's how we do it. Adam thank you so much for your time really appreciate it. Nope Rob John Thank you. That is Adam. Amine the lead college basketball play by play voice on the women's side for ESPN really appreciate Adams time and that was thirty. Four minutes basically all about him doing women's basketball and that's just only a small piece who Adam is Adam could go on forever. I are weaker to ask questions about so many other. Things A. Multi talented guy and one of the fastest rising stars. And he's no doubt at this point almost ten years into this thing established Not Saying that but man he's his star is still rising and he's got so much further he can go and he works so hard. It seems like he's always in an airport or in a locker room so man just does a terrific job really appreciate. Adams time make sure to keep it tuned to the channel here and hit. Subscribe if you haven't already because we've got more unplugged. Podcast coming up. 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What's The B1G Deal?

Around the Rim

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What's The B1G Deal?

"He's around the rim with let China Robinson. Basketball fans. It is your favorite time of the week. That's right. New episode of your women's basketball, podcast, ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. Just a little bit of a tweak. We're gonna start taping our shows on Tuesday post big Monday because we want to be able to highlight the women's games they're happening on Monday. So we will be recording on Tuesday, which means you probably to podcast Wednesday morning as we look ahead to Thursdays and Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays. But anyway, it's a crazy time right now. I think I say that so often when we're coming on air. I am your host China Robinson joined by my fantastic in fabulous producer Rica, foster Bradsby and to Rica. I don't even know where to start because every time I turn around the the polls in the rankings and women's basketball are taking shift. We had a very big game on Thursday between Louisville Notre Dame one to match up and Notre Dame finds themselves. Not only the winner of that game, which is huge within the ACC is from a conference standpoint. But number one of the polls distal a quick recap of that game. It was great mean called by our final four crew of Rebecca Lobo. Adam mean care Lawson and Holly Rowe and what stands out to me about that game. Couple things as there is ridiculous. Redick use. But so is our rega- Google ga. You gotta pick one to Rica. Don't put me in this position. Because there's no way you can you know when you started that game from the beginning. I was like oh guy Asia is about to go off in this game. I see it happening, and maybe I should have picked Louisville. And then that clutch, gene happened. The clutching does happen. It's a real old time for her. I mean, come on. I mean, she's ridiculous. Anyway, she made the big plays down the stretch the big shots at least on a night. That was just not the smoothest Notre Dame offense. We're used to seeing in credit Louisville in for everyone who was on Twitter of saying oh these fouls. Ridiculous. You must not remember the biggies like that's what Louisville does not saying that they file, but they are physical team. Right. Like, that's that's always been a staple. Jeff walls teams like they are going to mix it up defensively they have. You know, one of the best defensive pedigrees in my opinion of some of the top teams in the country under death walls. And so it didn't surprise me that it was ugly. I think that's what Louisville wanted. I just felt like in the waning moments. There was no answer for re KOMO shots. I thought that there were a couple of tough shots down the stretch by Carter and Dir that didn't help Louisville's offense as they tried to respond. A lot of trouble for a foul. Trouble for the cardinals. Which obviously was a problem. Evans dunham. There were players at four fouls. But at the end of the day Google took over, but there's just so much gleaned for that. It'd be Jackie young had to take over the point guard spot. Marina may be has not been consistently at her best. And we know she started the season with an injury. So that has something to do with it just shepherd wasn't herself. You know, even though she had a big night on the glass, but I'll tell you this. I'll take Louisville Notre Dame anytime I and a matter of fact, I'll take them against any of the other top teams. I mean, they're just fun to watch the well coached teams fun to watch. I thought the night was was fantastic. I would agree. And then if you thought that it ended on Thursday night it continued because this weekend was seriously upset city. Everybody could get it this weekend. That was going to be one of my other points in the introduction. Especially in the SEC. Tennessee has now lost three games in a row for the first time in thirty three years. Okay. This weekend. They took it L to Georgia. And then omiss one at Kentucky number sixteen. I called that game. Coachie? Oh, we've had this show before got a huge win her first year the SEC ole miss had been getting like trampled in their first few games the league. And then they beat Kentucky Kentucky. Now, they didn't have Macy. Moore's. And when you think about it. They are rather young team considering the fact that Taylor Murray was not at her best because she got injured. I just feel like she physically didn't feel. Well, like, I I don't think is she missed every shot, but they rely on a freshman. Ryan Howard who she used nasty, but that's a lot to put on the shoulders of freshman. But anyway was impressed by crystal. Allen of ole miss and just their defense and their belief in winning Missouri loss of Florida. So I I look at the SEC is kind of like the cornerstone right now of the shakeups, but the big ten is crazy to in matter of fact, guys, we didn't you didn't know this. When you clicked on the podcast. We're gonna talk about the big ten. On this episode because I don't know what is happening. Now, we all watched big Monday, and it was against Minnesota. Minnesota's started off the year undefeated. Now they've lost four in a row. Lindsay Wayland is really hit a rough spot with her team. I a- will had some good and bad moments. But it was obviously a good work for them on Monday night winning eighty one to sixty three behind Meg Megan Guston who I would be shocked if she's not a first team all Merican thirty four points on sixteen at twenty two shooting. But we're gonna talk about that later in the show. We bought on three big ten experts. Blake dude on Lisa buying tin. And Shelly till we also on this show are going to talk to Daniel Robinson one of my favorites. D rob who spinning off season in Minnesota rehabbing in getting ready to take over the rain for the Minnesota lynx to that point is the start of free agency for the WNBA. If you haven't heard. Also, we had a major announcement the women's Basketball Hall of fame announced their finalists for the twenty nineteen class. And that would include two of my dear, friends and Ruth Riley, teasha Pinna Chiro. But that is going to be exciting to watch. It. See who was picked. There was some great names on that list. Regan. I'm trying to let me see. I know Norlin Finch was on that list. Let's see we're gonna get the list for you because we know y'all are paying engine. You know, you'd be the on the weekend, we got you don't worry about it. The finalists in that group bass former CEO of the WBZ a Debbie Brock Joan Cronin longtime administrator at at Tennessee again, Orland Finch. Lucille ca Valoise. Hope I'm not saying that wrong by probably teasha penitential, Ruth Riley. Caroline, Bush Roddy, Paul Sandiford who had a major impact on the career of one Jeff walls. We've talked about Bob Schneider value still Amy Tucker longtime assistant for the Stanford cardinal, so congratulations to those folks that's happening. The winners will be announced February fourth maye Ori Davenport finally played in a game to Rica ended. Finally, I made it only took twenty years in case. Funny. Pay attention. It's the case of may Ori Davenport. Who is a Rutgers commit who was in her senior year high school in the state of Alabama who has ruled her an eligible because of mistake made by USA basketball. They gave her a little bit too much money on her stipend. And even though she returned. It is soon as the mistake was recognized Alabama schools are. Not doing the right thing. They ruled her at eligible and she was able to just play in her first game. But from what I understand she was able to do that because of some legislative injunction. Yeah, they're going through some form of a sort of like an appeal process. If you want to liking it too that that would allow her to play during that during that time. Yeah. So it's not over. I mean, she's playing right now. But we don't know how long that's gonna last, but we are happy that she got back on the court. She had like twenty five points, she's handled herself. So well, like her and her mom, and I said this on Twitter like my mother would have been let me take my mother would not have been able to peer on good Morning, America. All because she would've been my mother, my mom when I got my little ten this woman had a magnifying glass. Okay. She wanted to make sure she understood everything in that letter of attent-, she had twenty five hundred questions like the woman. She. Yeah. Shoutout to just may Aurina. Hope I'm saying her name, right? Her family because they've been a class act. And I don't know if my family would be able to handle it. That's that to Riga is Jada gonna make the team made the. The best data made the decimal team and to China's happiness is she is going to be a post player. Oh, yes. Yes. That means I get to talk about some things. Not you know, right. Hey area of expertise. She's excited. She's excited. Her first game is going to be on the twenty third guys. So Jada Rica's daughter made the basketball team, I'm excited. I'm that parent, and she knows it. So she's prepared. Well, just don't have to don't don't let anybody tweet me videos. Jim. I I can't have hashtag your producers yla. Yeah. Okay. Calm down calm down. All right fans. So with that we're gonna go ahead and jump into the show. We hope you love our big ten roundtable with Blake and Lisa and Shelley also enjoy Daniel Robinson. She catches us up on what's happening in Minnesota her time with the links and also some challenges of overcoming injury, which have been a big part of her story today, but one of my favorite people. So yeah, we hope you enjoy the show. Well, our big Monday game featured Iowa against Minnesota with the Hawkeyes walking away with a win. But it just started a lot questions about what in the world is happening in the big ten. They are obviously more talented than they have been in recent years as they have won some big games outside of conference in caught the national attention. But now that they're in league play it's anybody's ballgame. And the depth is looking real or is it why wanted to bring in three people that I really respect and get their opinions on what's happening in the big ten starting off with Lisa buying tin. Who you probably remember Lisa? I calling biggies games together as the boo crew. But Lisa does bit everything. She is a play by play for college football. Actually, one of the few women that are have the opportunity to do that. She's so obviously a play by play for basketball, mostly big ten in big east women's. College basketball. She also calls games for the Chicago sky the WNBA team alongside Stephen bardo. Also sideline reporter for the NFL. And also big east men's hoops. And I probably didn't get everything in but she hooped at northwestern suave. Lisa buying on one of our big tin experts. And then we also have Blake do Donna's who's occurring broadcaster for the SEC network. National evaluator blue star basketball, former women's basketball college women's college basketball, coach at Merrimack garner Webb university, the university at buffalo, but Blake also more. Most importantly has a podcast called the jump around with Blake Dudan, which is fantastic. Make sure you check it out last. But not least what if my good friends. Shelly till who is an analyst for the big ten. She is a graduate of university of northern Iowa. Her daughter actually played for the Iowa Hawkeyes. She's been a coach had several stints actually as a coach in assistant basketball coach at Bradley head basketball coach at the university of Wisconsin Platt Ville. And and Shelley also has her own company as a keynote speaker where she travels in speaks to soon athletes at different colleges universities, but she's going to be our big tin aimless on this podcast. So I am excited right now to have this big ten conference conversation with our roundtable, all of the big ten experts at least they are going to be for this show. So guys let's start with what is going on in the big ten. Okay. That's a broad question. But you know, we come into the season. Obviously, we get a glimpse at Maryland early. We're like, okay, Marilyn's good. And then Michigan state starts rolling. And we're like, okay. Michigan state beat Oregon. They're obviously going to be you know, a great team. And then we go move onto Minnesota who thinks started twelve no well as of right now, none of that is panning out other than the fact that Maryland is number two in the conference to Rutgers. Of all people who is number one at five. I just can't figure this league out. I mean when you look at the rankings Indiana was there for like a stint Michigan's beat up on some people. I don't even know where to start please, please is the league just that good or is it inconsistent. Or what exactly is happening right now. I'm laughing 'cause it's really China. It's highly multiple personalities going on in this conference at the moment. When really simply. Yeah. You know, I think I think you also have to go back just just how this year began. And and didn't I think it's remarkable in the fact that it didn't begin that way? Like everyone looked at it as two horse race between Iowa Maryland, he looked at all the preseason polls. Those were only the two teams that were being talked about from the big ten, and I really think that the stage was set with a really good conference season. You look at at some of the winds at the big ten had Michigan state beat Oregon. Western beat Duke, Maryland went into South Carolina and one Michigan over Missouri Purdue over Miami Minnesota over Syracuse, Indiana over UCLA, though, not rank it's always tough to win at UCLA. So I think the non conference kind of set the table and got people's attention. But. This is really getting tested in terms of. I'm looking at I had to write down. Maybe like my my five favorite teams here so far, and I was going five deep, and then I was like legitimately thinking of like a six or seven eight teams that could comfort. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. And to your point, you know, I think because they did so well, they fared so well in the non conference, you know, coming into league play. We're like, okay, Minnesota. They're gonna be legit. Well, they've lost four in a row, or you know, like teams that I thought I will like I'll be honest with you. I saw I win the Bahamas. And I was like man there are right. You know? But then you see them playing well, but they've got two losses in conference in league play. I'm just curious in Blake. You know, maybe you can speak to this. Are these kind of teams that are on the periphery like an Indiana or a Michigan like Ohio State? You know, pop up with a win. You don't expect them to get like are these teams legit in terms of being contenders? In the big ten or are. They just having successful moments. Is a great question. I think I still think Maryland is the most talented chain as far as just looking at what they've got. But I just think the gap in this the answer both questions, I just think the gap between who is at number one. Let's say it's Maryland and look at Illinois. I just think the gap in between those are so close that it. It could be it could be finishing second. Or I look and finish eight and win surprise. And you know and fill in your team, Minnesota finishing third or they could finish night or Michigan state finishing third finishing ninth. And it just I don't know. I I know that's a I'm supposed to be like a gas bag and probably like spout off and say Indiana's for real or not real. But I just think the talent is so close for all these middle teams that it just depends on if you know, if one game goes wrong these one game samples, you know, you know, it is like Minnesota like you said all four in a row if they annoy to ensue and they're sitting at fifth or sixth place. So it's just the margins are so small I just think this this year's in the big ten it's it's tiny. When you look at the rankings, and Shelly I want to come to you on I and moment, but you know, in the end did sneak back in at twenty five Minnesota's at twenty three. I was at twenty two Rutgers that twenty Michigan state's at seventeen. I mean, rankings wise Maryland's at nine I mean after a few very disappointing, showings. I would say by the big ten. You know, not only in terms of how many teams they were getting into the into the tournament. But how they were faring. It looks like these teams could be amongst the nation's best, but we also becoming around to say, well, they beat up on each other so bad in conference, no one really separated themselves by the time. It's time to get into a tournament conversations at seating. We don't know where to put him which could cause some teams to miss out in Iowa. Shelley in my opinion, again when I saw him in the Bahamas. I was like, yeah. You know? I mean, I understand their healthy. Now, I think making the Sumida God, do we even have to go there? As far as how blessed she is. I mean, the country got to see her last night. But how would you stack up this year's Iowa teamed with teams we've seen before successful Iowa teams? Like are they really that much better? The numbers the rankings all of that indicate so right? Yeah. And I'm a great question. And I look back for a few years ago to that. I was game being semi was a point guard seat her senior year that made it to the Sweet Sixteen. I think they have a lot of similarities, actually, I think that this team this year has better guard play across the board more debt at the guard position in my opinion. They have as you already mentioned, Meghan Gustafsen. She's just dominant. She's she's beyond the best player that's ever played at Iowa. So I think when they're clicking and we talked about this in studio yesterday that that's when the guards are clicking for. I wa that's their factor. Obviously Gustafsen is going to be Gustafsen every single night. You're gonna get those double double double double numbers out of her. But they've got a good solid point guard in Kathleen Doyle, she can be a little bit inconsistent at times and that kind of maybe what's shaky sometimes about this Iowa team. But the insertion of tonight Davis, she's healthy. Now, she put on a show last night against Minnesota. She makes Doyle better she makes everybody around her better, and you've got three point shooting. She obviously choose the three, but then the dishes of Meyer and civilian when those two are on three point and three point shot is falling. This is the best Iowa team. I've seen maybe in a long very long time back to Vivian stringer day, really. Really? That's a bold statement. They're better than the magic teams. Yeah. I think like I said, I think they have more dump that that guard position. And I think the thin makes them even better because she's by far better than any post player that that has played. And and and don't that's no disrespect any other post players Bethany do little was the senior post player with that group when they went to the Sweet Sixteen and and she was a great solid reliable post player, but she was not dominant like Meghan Gusta finis. I love tonight Davis. I mean five three she just has a fire to her a lot of Iowa players lease. I haven't I just have that that grit that fire like, you know, they're very well coast. Lisa bloom is one of my favorites. Okay. She coaches the mental game anybody that coaches the mental game. I'm all there with you. Like, she does a great job with her teens, but they usually are very fundamental. Sand. But tonight just has something different. You know in terms of how she plays the game that brings a spark that I think is is just fantastic. And if fits there, so well giftable of the hump, I think sometimes, but I think that is a that's interesting that you think that's this could be the best team since trigger dates. I wanted to move. Over to talk about Minnesota. Because you know, they started in I'm gonna spare Blake on this because we want him to get along with wife at night. Minnesota had a great start. You know, everyone's like, wow, Waylon doing that. Great. You know, they did have ranked win over Syracuse. But they've they've lost four in a row. Lisa. I don't you know, is it just maybe that non-conference type in that the conference play is that hard. But what are you making of what we're Minnesota's right now? Get rid of that head coach man's. He doesn't know any basketball. She's got. Wail at some just like to give her a hard time. No. You know, here's my concern about in a soda when they started out twelve no is I just always questioned where they tested enough in the non conference to learn enough about themselves, and in my opinion, they played a less than Fallon djing non conference schedule and that was already set up team and and not the new coaching staff. But I really only felt like they got tested with the rink there accused team. And so I really didn't even know what to expect from Minnesota, and rightfully so everyone was excited about the gophers for all the right reasons Lindsay Whalen factor. The fact that they have some of the most exciting players in the conference when you start with canoe chevelle, so all of those right reasons, you know, I don't anyone for for for hopping on the Minnesota bandwagon. However, I just had questions about it. And and here's the deal. I just don't think they have much of a defensive identity yet. We all know that Marlene stallings was not a man to man. Defense. And so they just they primarily they all all they did was plays zone. And so now, you have Lindsay Whalen coming in shifting that defensive mentality and those defensive philosophies, and and you're not going to see instant success in that in my opinion. I think you saw it in the game against China in the fact that they switch from the Bantu zone. They struggled in zone a lot in the third quarter against Iowa. And that was part of their downfall. So they just have to really kind of learn her defensive system. I think I 'cause authencity I just don't see their production changing much. We know about Bill destiny pits. Tie tai-bo having a fantastic year for her so offenses. I think they're solid the difference maker from Minnesota in my opinion is going to be decent. And you're right about that third quarter. What was it twenty four to nine tilting Iowa's way? And so I always twenties. Always my Mark really eighteen is my Mark since we went to the four quarter systems. I use this in in WNBA as well, which I should probably give them a little bit more leeway because the talent level so high, but once you get to eighteen point quarter twenty point quarter, you're in trouble. So that twenty four and even Twenty-three in that first quarter, they gave up twenty five points in the fourth. So eighty one points total, but you make a really good point because we know that they can score the basketball. But can they defend speaking of defense Suzy merchants teams are always great defensive teams? Right. We have I feel like we've seen so much of Michigan state on on the big stage this year like seems like they've been they've been on television more than than we know them to be Blake. What do you make of where the Spartans are right now? And what do you like about that team? I was actually out there a lot week and got to see them in person. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a appreciate them even more in person seeing and we all watched them beat Oregon, but seeing them in person the amount of talent they have on that team is is actually kind of scary. I mean, that's a team that going forward for the next few years there. That's gonna be a team. I think that's going to be competing for if not winning big ten championships. And you just look at some of the size like Sydney cooks who as a freshman came in top five or crew a lot of expectations, but she's really coming into our own can step out shoot the three and her ability to do that. And then, you know, we know about genitalia and her, you know, lack of fear and big moments and just it just seems to be very very balanced, even but in a local kids for them that splaying, well, they just there it seen. It has them length that they can call some disruption on defense offensively. They're shooting the ball. Really? Well, let's look they're up around forty percent from three. So they can find a way to stay that Lee scoring seventy five plus points, which they certainly are capable of. But you look losses, you know, adults for fifty five Indiana, sixty four northwestern sixty two but anytime to get up into the mid seventies or higher. They're as good as anybody. And really, that's it's as the seasons go along. I've kinda thought to myself man, depending on what matchups look like down the road, and the NCAA term and that the team I could see very easily making a deeper on. I think Michigan state's really really good. You know, they may be the cause of a lot of this. Inconsistency in my mind to be honest because we watched them beat Oregon right wash them beat that same Iowa team. We just talked about by fourteen points. We watched them beat. You know? I mean, Minnesota's take a little stri. But they're ranked team at the time Minnesota by what sixteen eighteen points. But they lose at northwestern at Indiana and Ohio State like what do you do that, you know, like in I grew with you in terms of the scoring and Suzy merchants seems have never been. Okay. Just the offense of guru, but they scored ninety one against Dinya one. Oh, two against Oakland ninety one against Texas, southern I'm not saying these are the best teams ever ninety nine against bowling green. So maybe that speaks to the defense of the conference. So just two more teams. I'm curious about that. I wanted to get you guys take on. And I'll say one team that has really there in my top twenty five poll Blake. I know you do a top twenty five. And Rutgers to me deserves more respect than they're getting right now. Why aren't they getting that respect? What's happening? Like why isn't it? It's it's mind boggling to me that this team is not. You know one. That's in my opinion. What they beat Maryland. How do you not put them into the rankings? What does their one loss, Drake? Is ever? Right. They lost her James and beat Virginia raving zygote their loss of. Okay. Well, still not terrible losses. But I come twenty two point guards though. Those three losses were without CC criers there. What three without her? What should be considered? Right. Yes. So why not why aren't people giving expect? You know, what I think China they're gonna they've got three huge games coming up here. The next three in a row for them. They've got Purdue then Michigan state, and then they are at Iowa. So my guess is it looks to me. You're right. When they way they want it Maryland that was their second of the conference. But then they had Penn State Illinois Nebraska after that. So I'm sure it's it's it was just a product of the competition at the time. But the fact that you know, they haven't been be in the conference in the league yet. And they. They make their debut at twenty so it, but they will solidify that I've lead in the in these next three games. Well, I do. I would say I agree with that. And the fact that maybe they're not the taken seriously, and the fact that rucker's kinda been in this position before even last year there were, you know, people thought that you know, records is for real. And then they just didn't finish down the stretch to maintain that ranking and make the NC two bolaise. And that is something that is actually being talked about within the team this year is that you have to depend on your own destiny attitude, and so until they prove that they have consistency and not just the one Goodwin here and there, but they start winning consistently in January and February leading into March. Then I think people believe that that records can be back in the old season ways. Yeah. I just I guess for me. And you're right. Okay. So look at the loss Drake lost Vaga, which to me are good teams really attack at that time. It wasn't a bad loss. But Virginia Tech has definitely taken the slide. And I will have to be one of the says I had them in my top five awhile, and they have been unim-. Impressive in ACC place. But no one wins at Maryland. No one wins that Maryland definitely don't win seventy three to sixty five dominate them the way they did practically the whole game. Like, that's respect, you know. And I just feel like they're not. I wonder and Shelly Lisa you guys feel free to agree or disagree. But I wonder if some of it is because they they play kinda ugly. I mean, they're averaging sixty four games there. One of these slowest teams as far as pace goes in the entire country. In fact, I think they only play faster and five other teams in the entire country. So like you I turned on the game when they played against north western at the end of the summer and they won forty five forty one. And you just go. Jeez. That's it's not something that necessarily as feeling to watch those Los foreign games. But I just wonder if that has something to do with it, and I'm that's not a knock on that is them saying, hey, we're going to limit the number of physicians, and we're going to score more on our. I just wonder if people just kinda tune them out because they think, oh, that's I I don't know. I don't know if that's part of it or not. Oh, I think it's totally part of it. I do because I see it happened with Harry Pereda. Lisa you, and I have seen this as well like Villanova great at. What they do. Right. But they slow the ball down. They're going to dribble out of the best ball. They wanna low possession game. But if you're winning games, you're winning games. You know, if you make if you win a big to me, I love defense like I'm not opposed to teams that I mean, we saw what defense did to uconn Baylor. Yeah. Right. Right. Doesn't have to be the prettiest showing in. I I agree with you that I absolute that's a great point. I think it happens, but it shouldn't. But you know, you're right. I here's one other thing to to point this team in a and I agree with you. Lisa the start of their season last season. Everybody was like, well, we're this come from the difference between then and now is a three point threat. They're shooting forty percent from the three point line in league play. They got four years that are shooting over thirty three percent or better. They've never had that it was pretty funny listening to Vivian in her post game interview. She said, you know, she made a comment about all these other coach. In the league who have had consistent three point shooter. She said that's a luxury. She's she's like a kidney candy store with outside suitors. Right in one of the reasons they beat Maryland 'cause they hit nine threes. So complex point. Yes. Still win games by playing in the forties. But they scored seventy something point somebody three against the Maryland. So they can also get they wouldn't games in the forties. But now the difference. This year's are winning games in the seventies as well. What are in first place? They're five. No. They've won eight games in a row. Would to be noted Maryland is second at four and one. Now, I don't know few teams just quickly anybody that wants to touch on any one of the that we didn't get to talk about in depth, but Indiana's Ford one Purdue is foreign one third and fourth teams in the and I know schedule has a lot to do with this who you've played and all that kind of stuff right now. That's where they are in the standings. And then Michigan. I is two and three northwestern. Lisa. You're al-matar is is two and three any of those teams stand out to you. That's true. Contenders. Or or did they you know, they are kind of riding that wave of big ten inconsistency. I, you know, when I was kind of looking at the list out of those teams that you just mentioned, I think, Indiana and do probably have the best hands of maintaining kind of the top four in the big ten, and I just like, you know, sorry with Indiana is is just like I just like their story. You know, there's you think about there's not a lot of history with them and they've been ranked for just the six week in program history. Like think about that like that's not even the six week of the season the six week of these expense of Indiana, women's basketball. And so that's what Terry Moore and has kind of had to fight with a little bit. And and not only do you lose all big ten players entira bus and Amanda Kate hill. But now you have some transfers in alley Pat Berg, and Brenna wise, and you basically kind of insert them in buses place in K hills place. And now you have the one who scores for Indiana. I mean, I just I like their story I like their chemistry like the fact that they. W I t last year that the drawing attendance now, and they'd just built on that momentum. So I just really liked the hoosiers. And I think they've really consisting this until March that win gets Michigan state. I think definitely caught everyone's attention. I mean, they're their losses are bad losses. Like, they lost grambling state. I mean, no Hieaux state, which you know, you can throw them in with everybody else in terms of what's going on. But you know, they they anytime you beat a ranked team people are like, oh, okay. And you know, they went much of their non conference being undefeated despite that, you know, grambling state on December twentieth. Those losses you're like. Wow, anybody else in that group or anyone else stand out to you guys? I like Purdue I I've seen a couple of times. I just called them with north western ochre that they have no depth. They've played five league games and two of those games. They had zero bench points. So if they have any issues at all with any kind of. Injury or illness or anything like that that to me takes them out of out of the running. But you know, I compare verse to the time is oh of the women's basketball. I think she consistently has her teams playing at their peak in as we approach postseason play. And then they're showing that very early already in the season to me. And I you know, they've they've got good wins. They they beat Ohio State. They beat. I oh got them took them completely out of the game. Only allowed them to score fifty seven points. So, you know, she's only hung producers out on that. And like you said, China, you're good defensive teams take you out of your rhythm. That's how Baylor beach con, but they've got some really good pieces dominates, Odin and Kusa McLaughlin are two of the best offense players in the league areana, harass you guys if you if you're the danger incr-. Edible inside athletes, Jane Groot strength after Lutely and an shot blocker. She's averaging over six game a week. And then what I really like about the same. They've a great addition with with k on the trailing flushing to to mayor far core. The software has really stepped it up for them in the big ten and she had eighteen boards against north western. So this is a team that, you know, even if they're not scoring they're not a huge high scoring team, but they will own you in the paint. They will own you on the board. And they will they will be fend you and make you earn everything you get. All right basketball fan. Stay right. Where you are. Because we have more from our experts on our big tin roundtable coming up right after this. And we also will close the show with none other than Daniel Robinson D, rob former Oklahoma great now taking over the reins as the point guard with the Minnesota lynx. So stay where you are. And don't forget you can subscribe to our podcast wherever. Podcast hopefully, the ESPN app apple podcasts wherever it is just search around the rim. So you could be the first to get it. You can Email us if you have questions comments concerns at around the rim podcast at g mail dot com. Our Twitter handle is at around the rim. Pod. You can find me at China Robinson or to Rica at she knows sports underscore, stay, right? Where we are more show coming to you after this. So I wanna just change gears in our last little segment here in talk about specific players in the league that you think people should know in not that everyone does it already know Meghan Guston. But Blake after we listen to this this clip, I would love to get your thoughts. Her in terms of what you think are WNBA stock could be, but let's first here's a clip from last night broadcast. I I'm I will Minnesota faced off against one another as ranked opponents did some love to the bigs Rebecca because I thought early on that this game was going to be Meghan good. Sinn started off hot cooled off significantly in that second quarter. She was outstanding in the first quarter nothing excites. Back to the basket post player more than when she has single coverage and natural Meghan discipline. Saw for the first half of the first quarter. She is worn a score on. It. Doesn't matter. How good the defender is. And how tough they're playing. She's got the moves inside quickly. Get your eyes on the rim. She's got quick moves to turn in score over either shoulder. She's got the up and under move. She Minnesota couldn't do anything with her on second cover was single coverage support they do Lizzy Waylon call the time out. So we can guard or one on one Rebekah, right? We're going to have to go some zone. I felt that changed the temple of the basketball game. What does own does is? It keeps people in places where they can rotate down in double even when they weren't doing that. They were interfering with gossiping and her ability to spoil the block. So I'm gonna start calling Rebecca Rebekah the way that does. But I also just realize that I've been staying Guston wrong because it sound like they had a little Gustafson. I don't know what y'all can correct me. But anyway, that was John Brickley, Rebecca Lobo and the coach Andy Landers in studio. I mean, come on sixteen for twenty two from the field in thirty eight minutes. She had thirty four points and thirteen rebounds. That's own was fine for the moment. But proved to be not she also had three blocks. You guys know I love a left handed player team lifting the building. But Blake when you think about her WNBA wise Blake. Well, she certainly shooting updraft Ward's. I said this last night. But what makes her so good is that she is would generate the most patient post player I can repulsing in the past seven eight nine years. I mean, she she doesn't turn the ball over which was actually marshy legitimately in the top five as far as not trying the ball over the country and their offense is very clearly let her the ball. And then if she dictates the comes back out, then you can shoot it. And she doesn't she doesn't put it on the floor without a purpose. She when she gerbils is not to figure out something it is to I'm dribbling. Right. So I can go up and under backs my left hand or I'm dribbling list because I've got a player drifting to the corner, and I'm gonna hit or for an open shot. So when you talk about her day prospects, I think she's one of those sneaky players that if you get an early second round, I really she's you know, jumping into first round. Consideration. But if you could at the end of the first or the early second, she's a player that I think look up and her rookie years going to do something nothing crazy. But maybe like a Misha Hines Alan did last year for Washington out of Louisville. Not not someone that maybe everyone thought would make a big impact. And then, you know, once the season's go, you're going. Oh, wow. She's she's doing really nice things. So she's a player that legitimate coming into the season. If I'm being honest, I wasn't very high on as far as its level. But a more your watch or I just don't know how you can't be convinced that she this find a way to make an impact in their clubs. I'm slow to come around on her. I just I've seen so many not to make that to say that these players are all the same. But I think about Ruth Hamlin or I think about Maria ghoulish, you know, some of the post players big size fundamentally strong we've seen come in last year's and what has happened to them right now. Not to say, I mean, sure, we all know that when you go overseas, you know, and you have experience. Aren't w hard. When you when you're facing? Liz Cam beige at the five or Sylvia thousand the five or pretty Greider at the five light. Let's be on his that's a tough place to kinda try to make your entry in the league, right? I just I struggle right now to evaluate college post players in terms of their impact the WBZ because they have not had it. They have not had one. You know, like may me last, you know, Caroline wards give her credit because she has stayed around. You know, she's not the fastest big or whatever. But she is found a way a beer loves her and she's had some injury issues. But you know, when you think about those bigs like that it's like who was the last one to really crack the lineup, you know, or even become a significant part off the pine so, and I know probably overlooking some people, but those of the names that come to mind when I think about Meghan Guston. But I love her. I mean, I think she's amazing. And I would love more than anybody. If she can get into the league and have a low block presents because I love post players. Okay. Lisa, and Shelly either one of you just one player from the big ten that you think people need to need to know what my favorite player is health tonight up. On from northwestern. And I think that see if you haven't heard of Bain, I I think I just like to say her name now 'cause I'm say good as you gotta down your. Good at it. No. But in all seriousness, I hear her two of on the court now, I compare to a dentist Rodman type player. I really think when when you talk about WNBA potential. I actually really think that even though she might be under sized. I think she is a pro. And and really maybe as exciting of a player to watch off the ball or as a non score as you'll find the averages double doubles. He's got eight this year twenty nine in her career of see make regular plays look spectacular. And you know, selling I did this game but north western Illinois game, and we frankly had to use a couple of highlights and four she saved the ball in between her legs throwing it behind her. She had a basket interference call that was the tackler that we replayed it just because of her basket interference call where she she leapt up and grab the rim. Slap the backboard, I mean, hang athleticism is off the charts. And so do yourself favor women's basketball fans and try to check out house tonight upon them. Okay. That's. About to go on that. Now. Shouting crazy. I it back that up is that your Blair to or you got somebody. I I love her. I love her, but I'm gonna stick with in in the post situation 'cause I played with my best game college. So we have to stick together. But I think and I mentioned already I love the way areana Harris plays the game. From purdue. I loved her when she stepped on the floor as a freshman. She was one of those players that you could tell she was just a wrong talent ethically. And once she got more experience and understood the game, she was going to make a name for herself. And I think she has grown she's matured. She's even more even stronger than she was when she came into the freshman. She's she's also a kid that can grab the rim. She can get up. She could cause you all kinds of problems. And I think because of her ability her in length her quickness, she's so quick to the ball. I mean, I I saw her point shooters. So she's not just camping out in the paint. She she can come out and it's defensively for Purdue. So I I love the way she plays the game her offense with game hasn't caught up to her defensive team. And if she continues to work at that, she's she's pretty special. The I love her game a tremendous athlete, but I had one more person. And let's just out circle b posed theme. I my favorite watching the league is not film it for Michigan. I think she is a future potential big ten player of the year. I mean, she is this is a very technical term. But she is roblems. Okay. Is redick's. She plays at the top of that press for Michigan. I just I think is so much fun to watch. And I think she's going to just be a real issue for her entire career. Okay. It looks like we are in. This is I have not seen Michigan place. She post. Oppose players. She's a freshman sees six to three out of Ohio. I just I think she's she's got that thing where you're like. Okay. Yeah. You're you'd get it. She's got the impact or. Yeah. She can play all all over. She's just have to stay in the post either. She she changes things for them. You're right like defensively, she can play on five physicians. Well, we will keep our eyes on what's happening in the big ten because we don't know what's going to happen in the big ten, but we thank you guys for your coverage in your time. Now, Blake your jump around podcast is fantastic. You have interviewed any. I mean, it seems like I don't know anybody that you have interviewed and those stories to to circulate in our game give Fanton idea of where they can get your podcast work. Can they follow you? What do you what do you up to? What are you want them to connect with you give the fans all of that? So that you know, they can keep up with you. Well, I certainly appreciate your saying that and give. Me that. Yes. The jump around. With is honest. Name my podcast, it's on itunes, soundcloud, pretty much wherever you get your podcast. I'm on Twitter and my handles just by name. So Blake on this. You can find it there. Just had a new episode drop this morning with northeastern coach their top twenty five major team. And yeah, I pretty much just top to head coaches from. I mean from dawn Staley all the way down to head north Alabama head coach misty Tiber on when they were undefeated pretty much anyone we just it's a lot more about these these figureheads are, you know, we've seen as coaches on the sideline we we know about their teams, but get into a little bit of who they are why they are. And how they got there. So if you wanna check it out it's available. It's available there. So I appreciate you. Let me that a little bit. Oh, for sure please give our love to Carly Tibo Dudan this because we love her. Okay. A little bit more than you. But you're you're moving up the charts. Lisa please, tell us where we can find. It's pretty simple this my name. I'm on Twitter on Instagram. Those are the social mediums that I use the most. So it's just Lisa bison. You can find me there. And we can we can go back and forth off a little hoops. If you want lease is the best we used to have a boo crew. But we, you know, I I've gotten questioned the boot crew just tell people, you know, right now the cruise put on hold for a little bit. We're separated we have not yet podcast. We're rated. Okay. That's all you guys need to know. Thanks Lisa in Shelley give him. I I too am on my. But you'll appreciate this China. The twitter. Instagram. My. It's just at Shelly till it's Shelly SA L E Y calm. I l l well, we know how important it is not just in guys cover a lot more than just a big tin, but to have people that are plugged in and all Jabbour and passionate, and you three have been the most consistent when it comes to covering our game. And we appreciate you on behalf of the fans because I'm also a fan. Thank you for everything. You guys are doing and we'll have you back on probably like if not before definitely before the tournament. So we can figure out where this big ten things going to shake up because I don't know you're gonna have some fun because. All your son off every breakthrough. It took me this long to come up with this. I think the reason that we can't figure out the big ten is the league of newcomers and new faces. I mean, think of like some of the people that we've highlighted regardless of like, Iowa who's who's kind of a veteran Laden team think about it. Minnesota's led by a first year head coach think of the freshman that our starting point guard for some of these teams, and and you think about a ruckus got three freshman three grad transfer so all across the board with some of the some of the new teams either have freshmen or transfers that are new to the league. And so I think that adds a little bit the unpredictability. How's that you know, what it takes north western graduate to get us all to pull us all together in the end. This is the way professional, right? This is the way. Of my life. Right. And this is what she does from you on a broadcast. I started getting all over the place Lisa's like so what you're saying is we? Typing. To tries to. Hand over time. Yeah. Like when I'm last the other. Real like when I'm when I'm putting my head on the desk because I can't make us what's going on. She always brings me back. We'll boot it's not that bad. I mean, take a look at this. And I'm like, okay, you're right. So that's actually a very good point. Because some of the people you guys have talked about and I'm very early and getting into watching games as far as conference season. I I haven't seen a lot of somebody's freshman. I haven't seen. So I'm excited about it. And I will be watching you guys. Thank you so much for your time. Come back anytime you want. If there's a topic you wanna talk about Email to Riga, she'll take forever to get back to you. But she'll vision. The live just kidding. I'm just kidding. We actually all the bills. I'm the one who's like just let me know if there's something I need. I love you to Rekha. Thanks, guys. That's it. We appreciate your time. And big tin. We're out. Basketball fans, we are excited to have one of my favorite favorite favorite people. Not just favorite players, but favorite people in all of women's basketball because she was my favorite when she was at Oklahoma. She was my favorite when she was in Tonio. He's my favorite of Minnesota that sitting Phoenix. Yes. She was my favorite there as well. Please join me in welcoming none other than Daniel Robinson to the show. Welcome, dan. Yeah. Thank you. I am. I'm on the bean year. Like, I said, you know, if been an honor to know you and see the all that you've done for the game. So I'm I'm happy to be here to talk. I'll look into like a grown up. This is going to be. Oh, my. No. But seriously, we have like just in the strangest way had this bond for a long time. So we don't just share a last name, but we actually do get along pretty well. So you've been busy. I mean every time I look at the Minnesota lynx P R or their actual like team handle. It's like Daniel Robinson is here. She's here as well. I'm give the fans little insight into what you've been up to up to doing a lot of things out here in in Minneapolis. So, you know, we're supported so. Well, as Bill links, you know, our fans are absolutely amazing. They show up at every single saying that we pose you know, BB's truck and all that going right now. But yeah, it's been an honor to be in the city during this time to to really give back, and you know, and learn about, you know, the city of Minneapolis. It's easy to come into in summertime, and you know, just get lost in practice. Going home and all those things. But now being here really gives me an opportunity to to, you know, indulge into the kosher into the people. So I've been doing all kinds of things from, you know, community service, and I'm going to start up doing like winter things. So went to things that people do in Minneapolis. And just making sure that you know, our fans are felt loved and supported that the way that we are. So this all around Minneapolis doing anything that I get my hands on man. I love the fans in Minnesota. I love me Minneapolis like the best part of kind of Minnesota success. At least from my end of it is that I've gotten to visit Saint Paul and Minneapolis like their dip. This is probably I'm gonna make a bold statement. Right now, Minneapolis is probably my top ten cities in the country like easily could be at learning that, you know. I think learning that for sure just yeah. Between Saint Paul Minneapolis like between the food. Here's the people like the Minnesota nice thing is real real are the nicest people I've ever met. And let me tell you those lakes like what we love to do like, Rebecca and Ryan and Holly myself, and even I lean Hauser would come with sometimes, but we would just go and walk the lakes because we would be. Yeah. Like for the finals in September. And the weather is perfect. Right. Her fake. It's such a beautiful place. So I'm just thinking as you're talking when you're having these experiences in the off season because we talk a lot about transition career transitions for WNBA players. Are you thinking about? Okay. This may be something. I can do when I retire one day or are you thinking in that way in the off season? Yeah. Definitely, you know, I just had this of my mom about my heart is really one of the things that I do hear that worked for not worth for. But I enjoy going to Simpson house in serving food at the homeless shelter in every little, you know, with the church at home, like we would always go probably once a month and their food, and it as tugged on my heart more recently than you know, it has before like, of course, as you know, as a kid like, you know, very special. But like now that I'm. An adult, and like really really understand it and get to know since I've been back and forth house a couple of times. I know, you know, the people that are there, and here's some of their stories and all that my heart is really tugging on on dealing with homelessness in some form or fast, and and really DIVY and the community. So at some point, you know, when my crew's over I think that's something that I definitely want to get into. Wow, that's great. You know, one thing I'm passionate about I was actually talking about angel mkaku about this last week is just the the career transition for WB players, right? Like, right. How do you get that experience? When so many of you go overseas like it feel like more player to staying home now. But so many it's like how do you get that shadow opportunity, or how do you network with people in field that you wanna get into people assume that everyone that plays wants to get into basketball in some way. Like you wanna be right, right. Pastor or code, or you know what? I mean. That's not true for everyone. So it's like. I think in hoping in the new CBA that some of that is a dress. I just think more resources have to be put into helping players find their next step in life. But speaking of transition kind of sticking with that that topic there's a transition going on for you guys with links with, you know, Lindsay Whalen, retiring, and you kind of stepping into that position to the point guard, and it's been fun to watch just your relationship with Sherrell like watching you guys after a shoot around just sitting and watching film, and I know that Waylon was was instrumental in helping you get implemented into the team and teaching you things. But now, all right. It's D rob show. With with my Sylvia in Mon and free agency starting so, I know we don't know everything. But what has that transition been like I mean coming to a team? That's that's been a dynasty. Yeah. Well, you know last year was a great steppingstone into, you know, really, you know, launching me forward into being the new start studying point guard. I when everybody knows I'm not going to be when Waylon Ryan see has their own legacy and a legend in her own way. And she's not I know that you know. I'm gonna continue to to do me. And be the person I play that. I am. And like you said I learned so much from from Lindsey this past year. I mean going against their even you see the way that she leaves and how they follow. And. Yeah, some of that is gonna change us with me. And you know, how to push people ways I think I got to see a lot of that this season. And then obviously spending time with coaches off season has been great. We watched a lot of film. You know, we've walked through pick and roll things things that I need to get better at and really just to get on the same page because I am the extension of her in. Yeah. Maybe different relationship than what you know her and Waylon head. But at the end of the day, you know, we're we're, you know, we're competing for the same thing. You know, we wanna win another championship. So it's been great. I've loved getting to know coach, you know, we've actually gone to some Wayland games together. And this this continuing to grow our bonds. So that we can be as. Successful as the. Yeah. I mean, it's exciting to me because Minnesota's never had a point guard like you, right? Like, more style, general ri-. But you're you're just so great your transition. You're like, I I think that brings a unique quality and something I'm definitely interested in watching develop. But I'm just curious. You know, you spend time I mean, you you came from women winning culture at Oklahoma. And didn't quite get there at San Antonio. But you you weren't Phoenix. You know, so you were around and winning culture there. Now, you're you're you're Minnesota having spent time around players like, Diana or my like, what is it that? You've maybe noticed that you didn't notice before about being around players like that are playing beside players like that more consistently this point your career. I think for me would have to be just the I q of those players Diana is one smart best player. He was like sandy draw something up and literally, you know, she like, okay. Well, we're gonna flip it this time. And we're gonna get this breed. And I give it to you. It's going to be opened lived it. It would be there. And I was like, wow. Like, you know, the point guard you have to think ahead, but seems like five of the head and I'm like, oh, that's amazing. And then the way that my competes in practice, and it was just makes everybody better by being herself that's special and obviously very rare talent. So thing able to to get you know, even playing with Becky him. And I learned so much see actually help me turn into a professional. So I've been blessed to play with some of the grace of the game. And you know, still continuing that with you know, moan and and still and the player that we have in our team now. Looking at the landscape, especially for you and your career, right? One of the biggest challenges, and I'm just heartbroken for some of our college teams right now because they I mean NC state, for example has just lost their third guard of the season. Like, they lost score to an ACL tear. They lost their leading point guard their point guard in I think November coming into the season, and they're still undefeated the last undefeated team in the country. So it's great to see them still winning, but big challenges ahead of them. But it just you know, I get heartbroken every time. I see a player get injured because I know how the game. Like, I don't know what I would do if what I love taking away from me, but you have been so resilient despite the challenges of injury. How do you overcome and kind of where are you now mentally as it pertains to your physical health? And what have you learned in this process of just trying to stay healthy? Yeah. Well, we'll mentally definitely takes a toll. I mean, there's days like after the jail like, wow. This really happened. You know like it. I'm really in a cast again like I'm really not playing. I'm really not out there competing with my teammates. So that's the toughest part especially at the end of the season. Because you know, I was playing well had just, you know, played well against a oh was started the game well in Vegas, and then went down with a freak accident. So I just wanna keep in perspective as as far as like, there's there's a lesson that I'm supposed to learn here. There's something more than I'm supposed to know. And this is the way of you know, God's sitting down and be like, hey, I need to sit down for a second. And and you know, really figure some things out. So and, you know, maybe it is the, you know, me figuring out where my heart's gonna be after basketball things like that. You just you know, you just never know. And so, you know, I was really upset after this one because I was like. Man. I worked so hard. You know to get back from my Killys. And yeah, wasn't the year that I wanted to Phoenix. But I finally felt like myself again, you know, so it definitely has ups and downs. You know, that some days are better than others some days, I'm more sore than others. But at the end of the day, I know that my hardest with the game. And I still have a lot left in me. And so that's why work as hard as I do everything. But they I mean, and it should be noted that you are in Minneapolis, working hard. You know with the training staff. I mean, when you could be home or doing so many other things I mean, it's obviously important to you to get healthy, you know, and for players that have had a lot of time to spend doing everything you wanna do. It says a lot about your commitment that you're they're going with the staff and getting physically healthy. I mean, all of that is commendable it really is. And and I I understand, you know, any if I wake up in the morning, and I'm in a little bit of brain fog. I am upset because I'm like, I can't think way to be myself. So I can imagine waking up and you're like, okay. I wanna go get the court, but I can't really do that. And I always say I never got injured because I wasn't good enough. Like only good players get injured. So I don't know that. You know, we're we're we're happy that you're working through things. So before I let you go. Plea for the payers that don't know a lot about Dirac like, I love your hair. And thank you. I love the way use your voice, you know, to important matters. You know, you're always is boomer sooner is that what it is, boomer sooner. Okay. Okay. We know that all your all your tweets all the time. But what else do you enjoy just doing like, what is derived love as a person, not just the basketball player all as a person? I love music so any concert that I can get to whether it's all school, whether it's new school, whether it's whatever I can get my hands on like, I I wanna be there. I wanna see it in person. Like most recently, he's on my favorite artist. And I don't really know much about him. But I went to Travis just because he was at target center and his energy was unbelievable. And that's like the stuff that I love is like he's working hard on his craft and to know that he brings that every single night. Like, I can't imagine the energy that he has the muscle. Every single night to perform the way he does. But he does. So that's like the cool thing about it. Like the creativity of everybody else like even had like a roller coaster Bill for his stage like this crazy stuff. And that's the cool stuff that I like to see you know, when I was in Phoenix, I thought it was winning fire. Like, I'm just I didn't love music any type of. Yeah. Exactly anytime that I can get to like music is my thing. That's awesome. So you're gonna hook us up with your platelets in can we start maybe per, sir. I can do that. Like, I'm thinking, even in your instance story if you put down like your top ten songs, you know, what I'm saying. Like, okay. Dow yet, I need music tag me, please. Because I'm still listening behind. Everybody's mad at me. And I'm trying to Volve. But I'm like, this is the only guy I have time to test new music. So if you're gonna test it, but if he I'm with you though, like, I prefer like, oh, okay. Yeah. That's real music. I'm like, I tell my friends. I'm here if I was alive gonna times like, man. Oh, man. I don't know how that because. Marvin Gaye have you acted. That is awesome. I will look for those songs derive. It hasn't been a pleasure as always visiting with you. I know that there are so many wonderful things in store for you in your career basketball off the court. You're just a fantastic person. I am honored to be connected to you. And we appreciate your time today. Thanks for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Thank you. I may I really truly create the support since the beginning from you. So they one day one Yuan. Always. All right. We'll talk to you soon. Daniel. Thank you. Okay. Are I phase? Hopefully, you enjoyed the show we will be back next week. One of all of our guests in all of you the fans for tuning in once again, congratulations to the to Rica foster Bradsby family on Jada making the basketball team. I know your husband probably gonna say just call the Brassey family event. Congrats to Jada and if your daughters out here hoop in hey, more power to you. We want all young girls, at least touch the basketball at that point in their life. It was life changing for myself and also to Rico who has informed us that she has plenty of medals in wards at her house to show for it. We will see you this. Thank you so much. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you next week Bye-bye. Thank you for listening to a round the rip checkout more podcasts from ESPN on the ESPN.

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One-On-One With "La"Becca Lobo

Around the Rim

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One-On-One With "La"Becca Lobo

"The he's around the rim with let China Robinson. Hello basketball fans. It is your favorite time of the week. That's right. A brand spanking new episode of your ESPN w women's basketball podcast around the rim. My name to Rica, you Trotta meal, what the music wasn't me. I've seen on your way to save my name to recod- try to. Hey, how she acts. Anyway, you know, what high fans? That is the voice of my fabulous fantastic producer, even though. She just tried to cut me off to Rica faster, foster Bradsby. I am here. Hopefully, China Robinson. We have a lot to get to in this podcast. So I'm not going to talk your brain off right now in the intro. Yes. I do have a lot on my mind. But I'm gonna talk about it with Rebecca Lobo. That's right. The hall of Famer Rebecca Lobo is our guest today. And we talk about lots of stuff. I mean Rebecca's everybody knows. She's funny. She's witty. She's just she's Rebecca she's a model for kids. And she looks amazing. What is my excuse to Rica? I couldn't even. Do. I don't know how she finds all the con-. She like she. She's a fantastic A-List. She's a she's a wife, she her and her husband had a podcast. We talk about that. She has four kids like she works out. I can't even do two out of five of those things. I'm barely making it with two out of the five of those things. I'm barely at analyst. Okay. Much to start with. Anyway, Rebecca's on the show, and we will recap big Monday between South Carolina, Missouri. We're going to preview Notre Dame Tennessee and just hop around a little bit. We get Rebecca spots on Yukon. And just what she feels like is happening in the landscape, a women's college basketball because it's crazy right now. Absolutely crazy. So sit back, relax, wait a minute. I should have did the escape version kick off your shoes. And relax feet, y'all have one little in Atlanta. And now everything is Atlanta's wait a minute. We're is the Super Bowl of from by the way, just really quickly. And I and I said this on Twitter for those that don't know. I'm originally from Boston Massachusetts. Okay. I was born there at Brigham women's hospital, and I'm one of sixteen children. Right. So there's a lot going on in my family. But the bottom line is that my family is huge Pat fans on both sides because my mom and dad both spent a majority of their adult lives in Boston. My mom actually was born and raised there. So. It's just you know with the Super Bowl being in Atlanta. I was praying that she's would win. I soon as Tom Brady put the boat on that thing. My phone starts ringing. You know in my family. Listen, we're not some Boston proper. We're from Roxbury. We're from Japan from bore Chester. Okay. My phone's ringing. Everybody wants to stay at my house. It's not happening. Okay. I don't even like the patriots. Thank you God. Like the patriots cheated. And I don't care how long it was ago. They so I've never forgotten. I'm not a big NFL person. You guys know, I don't love football. I love basketball, but three Rica's football. And I just was upset that that game went to overtime in that Kansas City. Never even got a chance to score. What kind of overtime is that? You already know my feelings on the patriots. And if I want the fans to still continue to like me, I should probably keep my opinions to myself. Oh my goodness. Well, all I know is that I don't see how you have in overtime. You flip a coin to see who gets the football. And then if that team scores, that's it. Time left on the clock cares. Something like that. It's that's terrible horrible come up with some new rules. Anyway, that's enough for football time to get to the basketball. We hope you enjoy our conversation with Rebecca Lobo. And no, you cannot stay at my house or the Super Bowl. I was the belt to. No. All right basketball fans will one thing I promised you was that I was not going to rely on my limited knowledge of what's happening in college women's basketball to keep you guys updated because we have so many people that know much much more about what's happening than I than I do. So I'm excited to have one of my good friends. She's a hall of Famer she is one of the best people that you really will ever meet. She's a mom. She got a podcast with her husband. Please join me in welcoming to the show ESPN women's basketball analyst, Rebecca Lobo, welcome. Rebecca, thank you. Or should I call you re as calls you? This show. I was like I'm so jealous because I thought I came up with the best like rendition of your name, right? It was love beca because for obvious reasons. We're like sisters in China. I thought you should be Becca. But then he said re Becca, and I was like, that's actually pretty pretty cool, which one do you like best I'm gonna make you. Well, I like when you call me, LA Becca, and that's just his accent. That's just his accident. It's not like he's trying to give me an affectionate name. He thinks even though everyone else calls me. Rebecca, do you think that it's Rebekah and oh he does. Yeah. And and I love it. That's that's what he calls me. And and I love working with coach Landers. So so it all works. Does. He have you ever pointed out to him that he says it that way other people have and and he just doesn't really react. I love it. I love it. His accent is fun though. Like, he says the words, and I'm like, what did he say after press rewind and go back and try to interpret it, you know, put my soul feel good because you you should have your ear tuned to the southern way living in Atlanta. So I'm glad I'm not the only one, but let me tell you Atlanta. And then the outskirts of Georgia are totally different. And coach Landers is definitely as we know the farm boy. So he's from the country, you know, and I'm like that accident is we'll do that twang is a little different in that part of Georgia is in Atlanta. But we have fun watching you guys in studio. It's clear that you have fun. But we're excited to have you on the show. There's so much going on a lot for us to unpack fans we are going to recap with Rebecca big Monday game. Between South Carolina in Missouri on MLK day, which was a big big big matchup, especially for the SEC. We're also going to preview Notre Dame. Tennessee wasn't the world is going on with the lady vol's, and we'll get Rebecca's thoughts on just some general things that are happening. But first of all let's kick things off with some sound here. This is tight is the point guard for South Carolina in by the way, the Gamecocks won. They beat Missouri at home seventy nine to sixty five but here's tie hairs with our Beth Moen's and Debbie Antonelli tie. Harris got things going in that second half. What was the key for you guys tonight? Stay composed say poison stay focused on on the game at hand on just this disaster. What you said to stay composed and don't get into the hype with things and owned the stick of the game plan. John. What about you individually did score in the first half and second half you come out especially at third quarter had a big game. What changed for you? My teammates. My confidence. Was down a little bit. But they they was like you're going to get the second half keeps you, and of course, they said something to me before the third quarter. It was like you better shoot you end up with six or someone's gonna have this. I had a piece in it went in how much more fun and officiant is for you. When you have the kind of balance around you that you have now I mean, everybody seems to be getting a little bit better offense. Ably is nice. I'm a loved that. We're dealing at this point in time because this will be needed a is time, and we had to get together. And everybody's scoring and passing and it just looks good. What do you really enjoy about this three point guard lineup that seems to be pretty effective for you guys? You're scoring is gone way up in the last four games. I like that we have balanced we have outside shooters, and we got the inside. And if if one on doesn't do nothing, then we got the other end, and we just run we create havoc on defense. Yeah. I want to ask you about your defense because that seemed to set the tone you guys came out, and you got a couple of steals sport thirteen points in the first quarter off six turnovers. How important was that? For you guys. Get going off to a good start is is very important. We don't get any steals or defense have havoc. We we can't can't score. And then we can't keep the face of the game in our at one keys win pushed him you. Gotta get that done and twenty three points off those turnovers. Eighteen second chance points as your biggest got it done on the boards for you. So this was an intriguing matchup right for a for a lot of reasons for those that have not been paying attention. There's been just a rivalry of sorts that has developed between Missouri and South Carolina. And you can look up the whole story. But basically from just a lot of physical play. You know, Sophie Cunningham is someone that that comes to mind as a very physical player. So in these matchups. You know? I mean, it's been a little ticky tacky, right? And so it started with the kind of the physicality of it. But then for both teams it became a little bit more than that in. There was some accusations that have gone back and forth between the schools about things at the crowd has said there was a lawsuit actually filed by dawn Staley against Missouri. Athletic directors dishes been a lot there's a history, but the game started with a unity, circle, these teams and coaches decide to just bury all of that though. There was some physicality last night. It did not seem like that was the headline. The headline is this new configuration that dawn Staley has on her team. No Asia Wilson. But a lot of back core. Bianca Cuevas more. Take Cooper anti hair is all could be point guards all in the starting lineup. Rebecca wooded you take away from this game. Well, first of all, I mean, I just so impressed with what Don Staley has done with this group and the last I don't know. A month and a half. Because when you watch them early in the season, I was just thinking, oh, this is going to be a rough year for South Carolina. They're just going to have to buy their time until that recruiting class comes in next year because they did not look good early and changing to this lineup with the guards in the line of bath playing really really, well, they really competed against Mississippi State a team who is, you know, top ten team in the country, obviously. So I was I've been really impressed with how Carolina how far they've come in this game. They did exactly what they needed to do in terms of turning Missouri over early and building up a bit of a weed. I think it was a ten point lead or twelve point lead at the end of the first quarter because was wanted to play a deliberate pace that you know, when I was watching the first and second quarter in particular. You know, there were possessions where Missouri wasn't even really initiating their offense until the shot clock was down to fifteen or below. But you can't play that way from a deficit for very long and. And so for South Carolina to jump out the way, they did it got the crowd involved. It took Missouri. Kind of out of what they needed to do in terms of limiting possessions to win and and they just play. Well, and keeping Herbert Harrigan, man. I really liked watching her as well just how her game is he bowled what she's able to do now facing the basket when the three point line, you know, she's given post players a good name right now. Don't you think we? Oh, man. Yeah. You know, what I remember even back to the year, they won the national championship. I just for some reason I was fascinated by her contributions that year. Now keep in mind that was the season where they lost coats. So Herbert Harrigan down the stretch of that run. They had to like throw in the mix. Right. She didn't have the experience. But you could just tell that. There was something about her. She had a bounce yet an energy tour. And so yeah, it isn't so fun to watch her play. I just think it's interesting though, Rebecca that this was a team. And you're right like dawn Staley is has. Had to find a new playbook because they went from relying so heavily on what they could do in the interior, and they were still they still had a great presence on the inside with Jennings and Herbert Harrigan leaguers set off of the bench. I thought she played some some quality minutes, but they relied heavily on their guards. I mean thinking about just the three point line, for example. I mean, they were three for five in the first quarter. So you say to yourself. Okay. There was once a time where you didn't know of South Carolina's gonna hit a three and they've got a little bit more balanced, but it seems like also relying on the their defense from that perimeter play with twenty three points off turnovers. Yeah. And think about it. I mean, they lost one player just one starter from last year team. But, you know, pretty good player nasal we dominated you know, as a rookie in WNBA. But for them this year, you know, even though so many of the pieces are similar what they're doing is very different. And and again credits done Staley and herself 'cause 'cause they did a really good job. And and you you brought up the unity circle. And I understand why they did that. But I kinda like it when teams don't like each other. You know, I grew up in the air of, you know, Celtics, and, you know, the the pistons or the pistons and the bulls or whatever like, it would've been okay, if they didn't have a unity, circle, it would have been okay. Those teams out there, and we're playing hard nose and feisty, and you know, the crowds still booing, Sophie, cutting everytime. She touches. I appreciate what they did. Because of all the all the animosity that seems to be their last year. But sometimes it's okay to have okay. To have that dislike among teams when you go out there. And to Pete though, you kind of feel it between you kinda Notre Dame. I think he's still a little bit. Now. Louisville Notre Dame in as little spices. Spices. Okay. It does. And you know, I'm so glad you brought that up because the last night I was trying to convince some of my friends that are usually on the fence about women's college basketball to tune in wash the game. Right. So I'm like guys. It's big Monday. I'm always on this kick. We gotta watch this game. And they're like, okay. Why should we watch this game? So when I started telling them about Sophie Cunningham, like, you know, she, you know, there's this whole conversation going on issue dirty player is she not like, you know, she's feisty. She does all these things, you know, she's a Grayson Allen of women's college basketball. And then, you know, I was telling them about what happened with dawn Staley, and, you know, obviously, some of these things that happened between these two are very serious, right, especially when you think about the the legal side, but. Take some of that out and just get down to what you what you talked about the physicality, the the rivalry. And in the just everything that kind of makes gang spicy. I think that's a great word. And all of a sudden, Rebecca they were excited about watching it. They were like, okay, which one is number three. She looks like a you know, they were just totally into it. And we've heard this before you, and I get this rhetoric during WNBA season where people are like we want rivalries, right? Like in the WNBA. We want teams that. The year L A Detroit had a little battle. And then people say, well, that's not how women's should be playing. That's not how they should be acting one. Not. It's a natural. Instinct regression is increase in the game. You know, you have heightened emotions around it. I don't see anything wrong with it. No, I agree. And it's kind of the same thing that happened at the end of uconn Notre Dame, you know, with with a Rico Goumba while having some words with coach Auriemma. And then, you know, the the technical like how great is that? If they meet again in NCWA tournament, you know, it's just a little spike. Players. Ed, no, put a little pep Rica on the game is more interesting. And makes it more flavorful. And and it's not it's not necessarily bad. And in a lot of cases. I like, yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. We'll spies never heard anybody. Okay. That's the Cuban side of Rebecca coming out there. Sticking with the SEC. Well, let me just ask you, this is Missouri legit in your opinion. Because this team that you see with an opportunity to make it to the second weekend in the NCAA tournament or a where do you really see their potential, obviously, we know? Sophie Cunningham is a great player, but anything else stand out to you about this team. Second weekend shore. I really really like amber Smith I like how she plays like how she finishes especially as an under sized player. I think the Sierra porter story is really really interesting and not people aren't talking about it enough. I mean, how often do you hear about a college player medically retiring? And then, you know, Christmas time thing, you know, what might be feels pretty good. I'm coming out of medical retirement as a college player, and then rejoining team like I just think that's fascinating story. But yeah, you know, it this is a time of year, the China, as you know, like conference games conference teams know, how to expose one another like conference games are ugly because the team no each other. So well, they've Scott each other. So well, so you know, it's hard to watch a game. Let last night, for example, between Missouri and South Carolina and say, you know, this is what I can take from from the about Missouri from this game. I mean, it's just so hard when you're playing within your conference. That's why I love. The conference matchup like when we have on Thursday. You know, Notre Dame going down to Tennessee conference. They don't know each other as well, it shouldn't be as much of a bra, and and you know, an ugly game. But yeah, can can Missouri. Make it to the second weekend without question. They can. Yeah. I thought I think Robin Princeton's than a fantastic Dada back to that reporter story. The best part is when she came back. She was able to score her one thousand career points. So she hit a major milestone, you know, had she not return. She would never thousand points. But she got that which is huge as you know in any players career. So that the course she deal to hey basketball fan, stay right where you are. Because me and Rebecca Lobo are gonna dive into the big match up this week between number one Notre Dame and the Tennessee lady vol's plus much much more, including will be see my more this WNBA season. So sit back listen up. We've got more after this. But don't forget to subscribe to around the rim on whatever podcast app. You use ESPN app. Apple podcast. Just search around the rim in subscribe. So you could be the first person to hear from two Rica in. I when a new episode drops you can also follow us on Twitter. I am at la- China Robinson. She is at. She knows sports underscore in our podcast Twitter handle, which is at around the rim pod. Or send us an Email at around the rim podcast at G, meal dot com. We will be right back with more show. Right after this bring up the lady vol's, and we're going to get to this matchup. This big match up on Thursday between Notre Dame and Tennessee, but right now in conference play in the SEC, they're being led by Mississippi State, five South Carolina's five and one g mentioned on Staley bought that team along Missouri is fourth four and two Kentucky is three into Auburn three two. And there's like a log jam after that. But Tennessee finds themselves in a cellar next to last in the conference standings as they are the they have one win on the season. One in five Vanderbilt as the only team that's worse record wiser, oh and five. There's a lot of discussion right now about the lady vol's. I mean, we're seeing historic numbers. I don't know. They've now lost five games in a row, which is probably thirty or forty years ago. Last time this has happened if this is ever happened. But they've lost to Missouri Kentucky at Georgia at Alabama. Then last night to Arkansas by one point now outside of that game at Alabama. These losses have been close sixty six sixty four seventy three seventy one sixty six sixty to eighty seventy nine so Holly Warlick's team has just not been able to get over the hump. And there's the shock wave going through the women's basketball community right now because this is just not what you know about the lady vol's are you concerned about this team right now? Meaning. Are they not living up to their potential is this youth? What's happening right now. From your perspective. I don't know about the question if they're not living up to their potential because you know, we're not in practice every day. We haven't seen what their potential is. It's a I think a huge part of it is us, you know, seven of the ten players on the roster are freshman and sophomore and freshman freshmen and sophomores, and you know, Ren'ai Davis is supremely talented player. She's really really struggling through this losing streak shooting the basketball, but she's a sophomore. And last year, she was a turn teams third leading scorer. But she wasn't the focus of the opposing posing teams defense that was Reseda. Russell, Jamie yard. They were the ones you regain planning for and this year. Now, it's Mimi Jackson, and I Davis who are going to bear some of the brunt of in terms of their Ponant best defensive player. They're struggling and in particular Mamie Jackson Davis are really struggling with their shots. And I was watching again the. The other day the fourth quarter of their Alabama game, and they had very makeable shots, and they didn't make any of them. You know that quarter started that they were down. They come out to really good mid range shots. They miss them. Alabama goes down and banks and the three in sometimes that's just like how things aren't, you know, the China when you're winning and things were rolling easy to stay rolling vote when you're losing enrolling. It's also easy to stay rolling. And and and they're clearly struggling right now. But I also, you know, Tennessee because they have such a great tradition, but still you need older players in practice, everyday, teaching younger players what wearing that Tennessee on their jersey meat, you know, and it's not just about learning the history. It's not just knowing about Candace Parker and to make a catching and and Pat summitt when when you put on a certain jersey every day, you're you're upperclassmen are teaching you what that means. What what what? Your work ethic is expected to be everyday in practice. What it's expected to be every day in games. And I think we have so many underclassmen that can be difficult thing to pass on. So, you know, these guys again a lot of scrutiny. I really feel for Hollywood. Because I mean, this has got to be really difficult time not only losing losing at home losing and conference. But, but you know, that's that's sometimes what happens when you have teams with this much you. Yeah. And you would know I mean, if you're just joining our podcast where we are talking to the hall of Famer, Rebecca Lobo, you would know about that tradition and how it's passed down. Right. Because that's what happens that Yukon like people, you know, you come in. And this is your talk. This is what happens in this is how we do things. And so I think that the the expectation is always what I struggle with. Right. Like, if this was not Tennessee if they had this roster of youth because I agree with you completely. I mean, I I was just looking at their roster minute ago Ren'ai Davis's a sophomore Vena westbrooks of saw. More. You know, maybe Jackson is that senior presence. But they green is a freshman like a lot of youth. And so if this was any other team with young players playing in in such a such critical positions. Would we be this upset? I mean, people are upset that the lady vol's are not playing well like this should never happen. And I think it also takes a little bit away from the amount of parody that there is an in our game right now. Right. So like, let's not forget about that. Like other teams are better. But I struggle sometimes because I also think that when people put on that orange like you're supposed to win because that's what I'm used to seeing. But to your point about the shooting looking at conference numbers Ren'ai Davis the shooting thirty eight percent from the field and conference play thirty percent from three and then Mimi Jackson, the shooting a dismal twenty three percent from the field. Twenty four percent from three point line. I kind of felt that sometimes that a Veena Westbrook is. Really the key. Like, I've I've felt like I watched Tennessee play when I was in Bahamas Tennessee was there they had tournament Iowa. Was there Florida state? So the good time Clemson just some teams, and I just I was concerned about their motor like that in all honesty. Like, I'm looking at these players that I mean on the floor. They looked like world class athletes. I mean, they have linked at every position they're extremely athletic. You know, they can shoot the ball obviously struggling with some of that right now. But I'm like, wow, look look at these players, but you know, as well as I know Rebecca, they're also for forty minutes has to be a level of focus and intensity into nasty. And so you can't just look at this roster say they're talented, or they have these recruits his McDonald's all Americans like they do have to end understand what it takes to win in forty minutes. And I thought that there were just times at least in the Bahamas, and I haven't washed and play as much as I did early on, you know, in in recent games. But I just felt like they needed a motor like they. Needed someone who was going to set the thing off fire, right? Every team needs that player. And I just didn't see the emotion. I was like, wow. Veda Westbrook to me is their most talented player in my opinion with her upside her size at the point guard spot, and I've always felt like the point guard sets the tone for what's what happens with the rest of the team. So I kept wanting her to be that person. I don't know she has it in her. She played well last night and despite the loss, but I'm wondering what will happen in her development from a leadership standpoint. Because obviously me Jackson is struggling. I think she's a she's a good leader. But she doesn't have it right now. So who will? You know? And I agree with you know, Westbrook is a terrific talent. And she's been the one who's continued to be pretty consistently good even through through the course of their struggles. You know, I can only speak from experience and from watching and I feel like when you're when you're in college, your freshman and sophomore years are our big glowing moments. You learn how to work hard. You learn how to work hard consistently in practice every day. And you learn how to win and even if you look like a at uconn, for example, Meghan Walker last year struggled to even find the floor this year, she's finding some consistency. You know since maybe since Christmas, it's midway point through her sophomore year. Christa Williams, you know, the top freshman in the country has had some great moments in some moments when when she hasn't been as good as she can be she's a freshman. This is what happens your freshman and sophomore years are the growing moments, and hopefully you're on a team where the seniors and juniors can help get you through. Where they're the ones who can step forward and win the game and the tight moments while you watch them and learn how to do it maybe the following year or the following year and the hard part with Tennessee when you Lou is so much on these young players. They haven't had a chance yet to to really learn because it takes time to learn how to work to the top of your capacity every day and to be consistent and to learn how to win learn all of that. And and so to me, you know, I understand that there's frustration out there. But I think there would be a lot more concern if this is happening next year when when this this class of sophomores is now juniors and should be on kind of getting to to the other side of that struggle. Yeah. Yeah. And with the bulk of their talented sophomore class. I mean, I remember vividly returning back my sophomore year and everyone knew how to play me. You know, what I mean like it was so different. 'cause everybody has so much on you. And they're like, you're like. Wait a minute. I I wanna go left. I nobody's go left. It's so there's that aspect of to that you have to blossom and find new ways, you know, you come into freshman, your new people like, okay, you know, you kind of get away with some things. But then I mean, our coaches are too good. I mean, they're going to start to take away what you like to do. And so that sophomore years huge in terms of gross. I I completely agree. But on this slide, it doesn't help that on Thursday night on our air Tennessee will be taking on Notre Dame. I just want to get your thoughts on Notre Dame. You know, I'm a little concerned about Notre Dame for a few reasons. I have concerns about the point guard spot. Right. Marina may be who started out the year injured has been slow going on the way on her way back. We just saw you. Call the game against Louisville in south bend. You know, Mufid had to put Jackie young at the point guard that ended up being a great decision. Yes, you can make those kind of changes on the fly and have success for the rest of the year Notre Dame did it last year. So should I be concerned about that? Maybe not, but I do have concerns there. But I just feel like Notre Dame is feeling pressure. Like when I watched them play last season. Nobody expected them to do anything. Especially after they got thrashed by Louisville in the ACC season. We were like, okay. Well, they lost these players. They've got injuries. Okay. Forget about it. And Notre Dame kind of use that as fuel right? We're the underdogs. No, one expects us to win. We're still expected to win Muffin. Mcgraw did outstanding coaching job to to get them. Even position to win the national championship undermanned under. -sition all the above. It seems like they're feeling the pressure though, this year, you get everybody back, including the addition of Briana Turner into me. I don't know. I don't know if you see this. When you watch them play. They're just not playing as free. They're playing like they're supposed to win and that can be and you can speak to this Rebecca to me that can sometimes be a bit of a burden. I don't know. But I'm a little concerned about them for those reasons is in my do you have any concerns about Notre Dame right now, they might this making this up? I could do that. Sometimes. I'm not sure I'm sure you know, that that's all valid if you're seeing that I just when I'm watching Notre Dame right now. I'm just like, okay. This is the team that consistently impresses me them both. And I think that you kind loss was really good for them because you know, for McGraw had been harping on their defense. She's still harping on their defense. But I think it probably helped refocus them a little bit. But you know, I it's it's a pretty nice luxury when okay, marina bakery, struggling against Louisville's pressure here. Jackie young, you one of the most efficient players in the country at her position one at you want, you take the reins, and and you know, Notre Dame coach Landers had had an idea, and we did it last night in studio just about how good they are in transition defense and their six in the country in point in fast-break points than most teams get into their fast break into industry. Transition office steals. That's not how Notre Dame. Does it? They are phenomenal grabbing defensive board. Quickly running the other way they sprint out every one of their players. He doesn't get the rebound. So the other four are sprinting out the other and they put an incredible amount of pressure on the defense to sprint back. And then once they figure out how you're going to stop it because they can hit threes and transition they hit alley oops, and transition, and you've got Google who just take it at you and transition. So right now to me, I think they're playing the best consistent offense of basketball in the country. And you know, coach it's interesting when you hear coach McGraw 'cause it's you know, talking about defense getting a little better, but we still have to get better there because they're playing so much of that zone. But offense of -ly, you know, the they just put it on you. And and and it's consistent and a lot of pressure that they're gonna put on you to score a lot of points and you play them. Yeah. And that probably you know, I definitely have. Very I mean, my standards are high when it comes to Notre Dame and Louisville makes games ugly. I've never I have. I have not seen Notre Dame play his ugly offensively as they have against Louisville in a in a long time. And so maybe some of that concern comes from that. But I also when I'm saying, I don't know Notre Dame. I'm not saying I don't think Notre Dame's gonna make the final four I'm saying kin, they win another national championship. And I think if I really boil down what my major concern is they've gotta have marina may brought full till she is a dog. Like, she is the player that to me gives them that swag plays with that carelessness, you know, mistakes don't bother her when she's at her best when she is shooting the ball whale mean she shot at three so well on their way to the national championship last year, which was major for them and also how she handled pressure how she conducted. I don't see that same level of confidence from her in. And I think the team need that is good as Jackie young. Is Jackie young is not the emotional leader that marina may is. And when there are missing that I think it hurts them. I think they'll get there though, you know, one of my favorite quotes last year. It was asked at the semi final games. And we were talking to some of Notre Dame players in a room and marina baby was just talking to how poorly she shot against Yukon. She's like, so I just started track talking some trash some players. She's like speaking I had to get involved from. How did you know? We're teammate see that. They you're absolutely right. She totally gives them their swagger. So I I think it will come. I think it will come, you know, and and and we talked about talked about it before to you and your miss your conference, then especially this time of year this time of year to get through as a player, especially you know, a couple of weeks ago when when you're still not in classes, the only people that you've been around for a month or your teammates. Whether it's on the road or home. There's no students on campus. You kinda getting sick. And one another. You're just ready for the next part of the season to get going. And and I think that's been reflected to and some of the basketball that we've seen, you know, the past couple of weeks, but but I will be stunned if come, you know, ACC tournament time or even this Thursday night, if marina Mary does not have her swagger back, if she's not, you know, finding a way to be involved what whether or not it's making threes, she can give her team energy. And and she will be doing that. By the time the ACC tournament rolled around. Yeah. I gotta sign like Mufid. Never good enough. That's the attitude. So I just quickly other than obviously, Tennessee getting the confidence back from Davis from Jackson. Is there any chance that the lady volts can knock off Notre Dame on Thursday? I don't think they're good enough. I don't think they're good enough right now after losing the amount of games. They've lost in a row that affects your confidence. Even if you're playing at home versus Notre Dame who has to be really confident right now, who's playing really really, well, I think it would be it'll be a huge struggle for Tennessee to do that in order to do it. I think they have their press has to start working again, they've got to create some turnovers. They've gotta figure out a way to slow down. Notre Dame's running game. But just because I've lived it. And I've been there, and I know what it's like when you're on a team when you've lost games. Like this. You need to have supreme confidence to beat a team like Notre Dame. And I would think right now, Tennessee will be I just can't imagine they have that confidence. Just because of how it's gone within the past couple of weeks love it. That's seven o'clock. So but people still watch. Yeah. It's gonna say well, you should. I mean, the game is at Tennessee. That's number one Notre Dame at Tennessee. So leave fans will be in. Their seats seven PM on ESPN our whole final four crews going to be there. Right. You care, Adam Holly, Holly. Yeah. Awesome. All right. So yeah, we're gonna watch that anyway. But no, it should be good basketball. Make sure you tune in and just quickly looking at I was browsing through and you're you're a voter. So you get how hard it is. Right. Like our job as AP voters right now. People need to the respect on it. Because last week. I'd be Doug Feinberg who does all the AP poll stuff. He's awesome. He does more than that. I mean, he was like a women's basketball. He does you know WNBA? He's he's the guy anyway. So you know, he sends us this joking Email for our AP voting week. And he's like, oh, well, good luck. We've had fifty five teams lose this team number twenty two loss twenty three twenty five seventeen twelve seven nine eight. You know? So we were like, okay. But there are so many. There's a lot of movement right now in the rankings. Especially once you get outside of the top ten, but. I want to just quickly. I have to talk about your huskies because people were panicking this past week that they went from tied for number two to number three. It's Notre Dame Baylor Yukon Louisville Oregon's what the top five looks like right now. Are you concerned at all about how you con- has played even some games that they've won. They've had seems like they've had closer games in the American athlete conference at least for a half. They were used to sing. So teams are challenging them for maybe twenty minutes. But I don't know are you liking what you see from the huskies right now. Yeah. I did their game against south Florida. It worth south Florida's three best players were out due to injury. And and you kinda did not look good. You know, coach Auriemma bench to starters five minutes in to the first quarter. You know, I think the first three or four possessions of the game, south, Florida got an offensive rebound. You know, you con- was struggling a bit. And it's we're not used to seeing that, you know, we're used to seeing them be dominant. Carl Adamec whose a a longtime beat writer for Yukon who writes for the journal inquirer up here in Connecticut. I asked him, you know, what was the last time? You con- had this many games that were decided by ten or eleven points or fewer and it's been at this point of the season. And it's been like twenty five years. So it's real, you know, they have a lot more. They've had a lot more close games this year than we're used to sing. But at the same time, you know last year the criticism not from people who. Really, no basketball. But the criticism from you know, some fans was you know, you kind of last lost the last two semi final games on buzzer. Beaters? They don't know how to win close game. What? Okay. So this year, at least they have those close games. And for the most part, they're learning. How to how to win those close games? Is you con as good this year as they've been in the past few years. I don't think so. No, can they still win a national championship? Yeah. I think they can. But you know, what? What's so exciting? I think for us covering the game. Is that for the first time, and as long as I can remember like I look at the people, and I'm going down, you know, number one. Yeah, they can win the whole thing. They can win the whole thing. They can win the whole like I get down to I don't know seven or eight teams that I think can win the national championship this year. And and on the men's side, maybe that wouldn't say a lot, but on the women's side. It does you know in the past, however, many years, it's always been this team and everybody else like when's the last time we got to the final four and didn't have an undefeated team or. Didn't have a team that was an absolute prohibitive favorite to win the national championship. It's really long time. And so this year, it's exciting to me because it's like, okay, you comes down a little bit, but they could still win Baylor. Yeah. They could win the whole thing. Win the whole thing. Like, Oregon Stanford. Yep. Yep. I believe they can win the whole thing. Like, it's just it's it's it's getting there. And and it's been it's been fun. As a result to watch these games. Now, you say that you don't think you con- it as good as they have been the last two years is that talent is that you like what is it that makes you that brings you to that conclusion? Well, they need a lot from a freshman and sophomore Chris Williams is going to have to play well for them. You know, you you trust implicitly, you know, they're juniors and seniors get you know, what you're going to get from Katie was famous in the face, a call your everyday Christopher Dangerfield is going to bring what she brings Meghan. Walker has been a little bit more consistent. I think if Meghan Walker had shot the ball, well and played better, you kind of beat Baylor. I think that the beginning of that game. If she made some of her. Early shots. It would change the tone of it. And then off the bench, you know, last year that has the race Steven's coming enough event that right there made the better team livelier, you know, then they are this year. They they don't have even that six player who comes in and make a real real impact. So they just you know, they're little younger than they've been and even thinner than they've been. And you know, we're seeing seeing some Volna abilities in certain matchups, especially you know, we saw it against Baylor. You know with with the big players, so, but that's okay. And that's gonna be fun. And that's gonna it's gonna make things even more interesting. Yes, it has been a fun race. I'm just looking down the top twenty five right now thinking about some things that stand out to me definitely NC states undefeated teammate, Tina, no despite injuries that should have ravaged them now. Yes. They're scheduled real their schedule ratchet up another notch in the next week or two which would tell us a lot about the wolf pack, but west more has to be leading the coach. Of the year conversation from a national standpoint Marquette is a number ten team this week and Caroline Keith. Or seniors that group finally has figured things out. Right. I mean Elysee blocked in teasha hide him in. We saw flashes of greatness their first three seasons. And they've had a ton of success when it comes to the historical perspective for the golden eagles. But they have just been beating biggies teams by twenty thirty points. So they could be scary team. If they move into the postseason with that kind of confidence. Rutgers is a t that a lot of people are surprised about Vivian Stringer's. Got he she strung together. A group of interesting transfers and new addition, you know, you talk about freshman, the youth and inexperience will there's some new faces for Rutgers that are tearing through the big ten. They're undefeated in league play number fourteen this week in the top twenty five, but the only Cryer statia Kerry Cryer. A is a transfer from Georgia Tech and stationed a Carey is a transfer from Pittsburgh, so new places new faces but having a lot of success for Vivian stringer. The big ten is is crazy the SEC's had some moments. But is there anything or any team where he player right now? Rebecca that stands out to you is a no, you're always just watching the landscape. You know, I think a team that we haven't talked enough about. And maybe it's a west coast thing is Stanford. They're really could they're really good on the offensive end. It would not surprise me. One. Bit is Stanford is in the final four this year. And I know talk a lot about what we're gonna because they're really good and out of the pack twelve but Stanford is team that every time I watch them. They impressed me a close game at Arizona state, and I knew flipping through the channels and in came upon that, you know, near the end of the game and everytime. Arizona state made a play Stanford responded, and they just struck me as a team. All right. This is a group that knows how to win. This is a group that knows how to make big plays. And and they're they're a team that that's that's really interesting to me, you mentioned Marquette, you know, this is the year when that's freshman class came in and all those guys were starting and they were young talented. Well, now, they're seasons in pallets it. And and I thought you tweeted about it, you know, when they brought Mississippi State to the wire, you know, everybody else who's. Just learning about Marquette, you better learn about Marquette 'cause you've been covering in China for the last four years, and and they're interesting team to me and you brought up NC state. Yeah. What's more as a remarkable job is the only undefeated team left right now. And they've got a stretch it starts right around Valentine's Day, and it lasts a week where they have sleep games in particular that are going to be tough. They've got Syracuse Notre Dame and and Louisville kind of in a two week stretch. And we're gonna learn about them. But they also have Clemson coming up in clumps as a team that you know, is so much improved for last year this year. So, you know, it's it's just it's a fun year to kind of pay attention to everything. That's that's been going on. Yes. So so much going over Becca. We are always grateful when you make the time to come on our show fans. Also, if you have not checked out Rebecca has a podcast with her husband, Steve that is fantastic. It is hilarious. They talk about every. Anything from parenting to, you know, they're they're dynamics. I mean, they're they're so funny. It's it's so entertaining, Rebecca work. Can they get your podcast where can they listen to it? The the podcast is called ball in chain and pretty much. It's on I tunes. It's on wherever people listened to their podcast. You can you can find it. We also talk a lot about youth hoops in youth sports since that's the world we're in with with four kids now. But but appreciate you talking about it. And and I love listening to around the rim. Certain. We'll do a promo for it during game on appreciate it. Adam gave us a shout out last week and Rica almost lost her mind. I main Novus getting to all it was. Is really fleet. Now, we appreciate you guys. Give us shoutouts in. You can also follow Rebecca Lobo at Rebecca Lobo on Twitter. Rebecca, just quickly before I let you go. I know it's not WNBA season yet. But is there anything you're thinking about right now as far as the draft or next year or free agency, the or anything on the top of your mind from WNBA standpoint? I think, you know, the top story is is the Maya voice situation in Minnesota is she gonna play this year. You're not gonna play this year. If she does play this year is it gonna be in Minnesota's they're gonna be somewhere else. Like, basically what the heck is going on. I think is is the question we're all interested in because, you know, Lindsay Whalen, retiring that team, you know, we've been talking about it for years continuing to age, you know, I I if my doesn't play it's going to be a very different season for them. Then if she does. So I think that's the biggest story ended w right now. Yeah. I mean. People are scared. I was I was I when that came out I was like what like I just couldn't even focus can get myself together to reconsider to be attacked like I can't believe they are thinking about a tweeden. Everybody's panicking. And I'm like Maya more, especially I think the thing that got me. I think it was a clip, and you may have sent it to me of a new station and they use the word retire. And I was like where is this coming from like that would that would be a travesty that would be devastating a mean that did my more has not done enough for us. Let me just back that up. Right. Like, I mean, come on. She's given us fantastic basketball. She has every right to do whatever she wants to do with the rest of her life. She's won four championships. No one's ever gonna forget her. She's the first one woman of the Jordan brand she's done a lot but still retire. What does your gut say? Rebecca, what do you think we're gonna see my more next season? I don't know. I have no Intel on that. I'll say this. I if if she decides to retire as you said, she's done everything she needs to do as a basketball fan. I would absolutely miss watching her. If she wasn't on the court. She's she's she's one of the finest of the history of the game. So that would be a huge disappointment for us. But God bless her whatever whatever she needs to do my, you know, she's she's going to do my is going to do my madness. That's Rebecca Lobo hate. If you have a variation of Rebecca's name, you want to share with us you can share with Enron pod. You've heard I said rendition earlier, but I should've said variation. But I call her LA Becca coach Landers calls are re Becca. So if you have any thoughts on which we should be calling her or if you want to vote for LA Becca, I would be excited for that hit us up on Twitter at around the repot, Rebecca, we will have you back on fantastic. As always we appreciate you and have fun at Tennessee on Thursday. Thanks so much. I appreciate having me. On the China. All right fans. We hope that you enjoyed the show big thanks to Rebecca Lobo for joining us. Don't forget you can comment. 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2020-10-12- KSR - Hour 2

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2020-10-12- KSR - Hour 2

"Hey this is Joe Biden. Listen. I know times are tough. And there's a lot of fear out there. But I also know miracle. Come. Back strong. If we got the right leadership. We can get kids back in school folks back to work back to their lives safely. If we do it together. Thanks for listening. I'm Joe Biden candidate for president and I approve this message. Paid for by Biden for president. Welcome to the second hour of Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Tenny. Now, here's Matteo's back our number two Kentucky Sports Radio Pavel to five seven, one, ten, eighty. Glass Tech Seven, seven, two, seven, seven, four, five, two, five, for this segments can be sponsored by my good friends Dano seasoning Dano Shannon. All natural unrefined sea salt, the best herbs and spices none of the fake stuff. No GMO's sugar artificial chemicals. You know the the tick Tock I went on their TIKTOK. Again. Are you guys on Tiktok by the way? Either of you know no I have not either trying to stay away from it as much but I go on there to see Dan knows and see what they're cooking. I'm telling you. You remember when I I told you. They now have like seven, hundred, eighty, thousand, Tiktok. Keeps growing everyday? A seasoning company to have Tiktok you wouldn't think that. But for whatever reason people on Tiktok, they want to be part of day no seasoning you it's Dan Online it's Dan task and they do apparently have it at the Beaumont Kroger Ryan you can get. Dano seasoning. Okay. You can go if you're not in Lexington Louisville go to Dan does seasoning dot dot com just trust me try it put it on your meat eat it and be happy with Dan season. So there you go. There you go the job. There you go. Talk. About a couple of things here first of all. The Chris Oats Story. From the weekend he got, he went home from Rehab Facility I know a lot of you wonder we're wondering about about Chris's condition. You've now seen as the pictures and clearly he had a serious health incident this summer they asked us not to talk about details and I haven't but he has improved I will say substantial. From what it looked like this summer and and I know his family is excited is. Happy and excited and glad to have him home. Mark stoops and Vince Marrow went and saw him yesterday. And they tweeted that picture out. You know listen if you believe in. A higher powered if you believe in amazing circumstances, how about the fact that on a game where they're dedicated to twenty two strong they win by twenty two points. Twenty two is not a number that is a normal football number. It requires you to snap the ball fifty yards over your head. To go into the end zone. But had happened and a really neat coincidence and a neat moment and. The players have really rallied around this guy especially, his position and Jason Davis talked after the game about how much it meant to him to play well, get an interception etc. While wearing Chris oats is number you know he would have been a starter out there and might have been our best player on defense certainly would have been one of. And I thought it was great that there was a game really Ryan where people could come together and honor him like that. On. The weekend where he? Finally, you know some positive news in his condition where he got to come home and you know what? A what an uplifting great story for his. that he gets got to come home and the cats go out and win by twenty two points and the Dude Who's wearing his number twenty two got an interception a a uplifting story for his family to get to feel good about that for Chris, of course, on Saturday. John Shorts mother. Passed away if you listen to the pre game show or postgame show, you heard US talk about it. John called both of those shows and and you know Tom Hart. Mentioned on the broadcast I mean I. I can't thank him enough for that. He's such A. Such a kind of class. And you know it's obviously very sad i. know you talked a little on the pre-game. Ryan, you know John and the family better than any of US give a little update and let folks know kind of kind of what happened. Well she had a she had a really bad fall on Friday and She was immediately putting hospice, and so she then she passed away on Saturday John Sister Francis Doves live right around the corner. To able to keep to keep an eye on him but but betty was his with his caregiver. You know cooked meals watches clothes and was one hundred percent caregiver. So there is some concern about John but you know he has some you know some people are Gonna be able to take care of him but Matt. The overwhelming support of people in big nation reaching out one only. Hey, how can we help? What can we do Brett strong from men's warehouse Artie donated a suit for John Deere for the funeral. It just things like that. If people are just just show the kind of people that John is touched over the years of just his phone calls into this show, they don't know John They may never meet John, but they just love him for what he called in and talks to us on a daily basis. So you know thank you so much for everybody just the love showing a lot of you have written a saying like kind of like Orion said, what can we do, etc I don't know the answer that question to be honest with you. We're GONNA be talking. With. Ryan is going to be talking with folks, the families, etc. We'll. We'll. We'll. I mean, that's the best way I can say it and we'll. We'll. We'll figure that out as best. We can just kind of a lot going on in that situation. But we will keep you updated as to that Ryan I. I. Know You'll you agree? Yeah. Absolutely we'll. We'll come. We'll come up with them because a lot of people wanna know just sending cards doing something for John and we said this to Saturday. You know John has a hard time expressing his emotions when he calls in, you know he'll. He'll tell you you know I'm sad. But you know it was sure was good game on Saturday. So just keep that in mind when he does call and talk talk them out on the on the show when he's we've talked when he's saying saying he is sad he does kinda comprehend what's going on but it's Kinda hard for him to express his emotions when he's talking. Okay switching gears for a second. Let's switch gears to basketball because I thought of Ryan Shane when I heard John Cale Perry this weekend Yeah Jot cal. Perry was talking about his the basketball schedule. And he said, hey, everybody, the basketball schedule is GONNA come out soon, which it has to. We're going to start the season here very shortly we start the season at Thanksgiving and it's Columbus Day. So these about soon. But. He said quote I think it might be time for me to get drug tested on how hard this schedule will be. When I heard it, I thought I wanNA hear for I. Thinks it's going to be that hard. What does that even mean I need to get drug tested because the schedule is going to be that hard think he's saying like How believes schedule so hard nobody's scheduled unless they were on drugs. I really, I really want him to look jobe hall in the eye and tell him that he thinks scheduled. So hard it's hard to what jobe hall used to schedule. Well, let's let's Let's look at what it looks like right now. Okay. Right now, the schedule as I understand it. Is. Michigan. State. Louisville. Notre Dame. Richmond moorhead. and. What's the other school in that Tournament Religious Roy? Moore hand in Detroit. A big twelve team, and then there are two other games that we don't know. Originally, it was supposed to be UCLA. But I have not heard if they're doing that or not. So for right now, you're looking at Michigan State Louisville Notre. Richmond. Detroit. Moorhead big twelve team. Is that a drug testable schedule ride. No it's not. Coach we love you to death but come home and. You know. I don't want to say anything about an upset. When we were. In non covert year, let me. Just GonNa, play devil's advocate I. If you look at the schedule. Okay I always look the schedule as possible games are you could lose to Michigan State, you could lose to Louisville you could lose to Notre Dame you could lose to the big twelve team. You'RE NOT GONNA LOSE TO DETROIT YOU'RE NOT GONNA lose to moorhead you could lose to Richmond that's a top twenty team this year I know it doesn't sound like it but they are. I, mean, it's five lose -able games out of seven. Maybe, that's difficult. They'RE NOT GONNA lose to Richmond Notre Dame's that good this year that. He he is trying to sugar coat things for us. So we act like it's got these hard schedule coming up a war. Was Me we got these art, Games Would've PADUCAH. Our Freshman poop ice cream blah blah blah. Can we've heard all this crap before? No, it's we we're not going to buy I'm not going to buy maybe some people but I'm not buying it said he. Should he be drug tested for the schedule? No but to be fair, it does sound like it's tougher schedule than what we played in the past five or six years. So so I, mean, I'm fine with it, it's a better schedule. Now there's two other teams you said that he could add in. Okay. Maybe those two majors maybe so here's the thing I. Don't know that I would say it's better. But I also don't think it's worse. So like all right just looking at what our normal schedules normally we play the champions classic. So that's Michigan State we always play little. So that's little. Normally play in the CBS classic this year not sure for playing it or not. But if let's say we don't Notre Dame's probably equivalent to UCLA. I mean, Ryan. That's similar to what we do every year isn't it? So. How's IT harder? He's acting like it's harder if it similar, how is this your heart or by adding Richmond moorhead state in Detroit but I'm not here in firm and? Detroit are like that. They're both going to be back but I feel like we play a lot more of those teams on a regular season. Well we do. Because we have more games normally you have thirteen non conference games this year, you only get ten. So this would be a tougher scheduled and he's taken all those easy teams out and keeping the good ones. That's a tough schedule. I let's just make a bet. These extra two games is going to be something like. North Carolina A and t slash northwest whatever. Let's go on record since we don't know what these other two games are. If they are both marquis teams and by Marquee, would you agree like power five conference or the biggies? Okay. Is that fair? Yes, and not the bottom of the copper can't be like Providence. Somebody whatever Would you then say he should be drug tested in it's a better scope. No no I'm not, GONNA say that. There's no scenario where you're going to say this is a tough schedule, right? No, no, no no but I guarantee you these next two games or go to be. poop states type schools. Way You will aid. Out Very soon, five, oh two five. One Eighty textra she'd seven, seventy, seven, four, five, two, five, four, take a break airbags cancer to talked about Jones and the crew call the Clark's pup and shop online at five, Oh, five, seven, one, ten, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, four, hundred, eighty or does the Kentucky Brandon. Tweet of the day by Twenty Matt at Kyi Sports Radio. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Ten Eight Comeback Gas are at the same response about trusted choice. If you need insurance coverage at the lowest rate possible use trusted choice the own a business maybe you need insurance for it or you're just looking for home auto life trusted choice dot com they'll they. They look at all the agents they look at all the various companies and they tell you which one is the best for you. What more could you ask for it? go to trusted choice DOT COM Hey Kentucky Independent Agency is ready to do what's right for you at trusted choice dot com. My. Brandon twenty today. Goes to this person on the text machine, go to shop DOT COM for UK your arguer, all your nice shirts. I. Just by the way Shannon bought Rachel happened just says cats and I think she liked it because it just said cats and she actually likes physical cats you go. It works out it works. Yeah exactly. Like she's a UK A and she can just like cat the Cat lady you're you're exactly. Birthrights Matt Will You just complain you guys about football not getting the too easy games and then here comes Ryan. That he doesn't WanNa play any easy basketball games, which is IT GOING TO BE MR? Limit. I view the Kentucky football schedule at basketball schedule completely different. Basketball schedule we are on a different plane are some people telling me that one of the two games might be Marshall? Marshall. Drug. Drug test that man more. Somebody just texted in, we need to drug testing if he actually thinks this is a hard schedule now. Is Marshall Drug Test Worthy Shannon No. No here's the plot twists they absolutely do what do they actually do test him. And he comes up. Want to. Look coach you did Marshall Come in here in this. We found something. All right. So Marshall you're saying right is not drug test worthy. No negative I just. I don't know I don't know if it's Marshall but if it is I just wanted to get the idea who's next. Let's get a Chandler Chandler. How're you? Taylor? Hey guys, I just wanted to talk about the the whole crowd thing there in college station Yes So I'm an Aggie, class twenty. And there easily fifty thousand students there in the three decks behind. The bench. How did they? That I mean. Because they announced, the official attendance is twenty, four thousand and that was nonsense. How did they justified or do they not even try? They don't try and you know I personally i. thought it was awesome. You know we no doubt no doubt had an influence on the game and then Dan Mullen coming out and saying he wants ninety thousand swamp real issue this coming weekend I think that's awesome too. So I think they should do it Rhonda scientists that it's okay. We didn't take. Me Okay. I don't want to have the argument about whether or not. You think we should do full stadiums. That's just an argument. Nice on your your your politics and all that I don't care about that. The question is because everybody's GonNa Disagree and I don't want to have that conversation believe whatever you want. My point though is the rule is the rule and you guys broke the rule and to show that you broke the rule you announced your school announced that they only had twenty four thousand people there which was just a lie. Did that my question to you is did they try to justify or they just like hey, whatever. No I. Mean I think I. I was actually at the game but you know I I had buddies that were i. think they just let. You know. Kids go in the game I don't know. So you could just go like you'd have to have a ticket you could just go no no, no you you. You have to go to the box and get a ticket but I don't think they'd really try to limit the students. I gotcha. So they didn't limit the students and that's probably what happened in is they just they limited regular tickets and just let all the students come why appreciate the Info thank you my friend. Do Great I mean. Look. To me the question of how many people should be in stadium is a question I leave scientists and politicians I don't know the answer to it do whatever I don't even really care I mean I. Think it's dumb to have a full stadium but whatever everyone But. Whatever the rules are right don't you think they should be enforced collectively across the conference. The SEC needs to step in today and do something harsh two am or we're GonNa see it at all. These other stadiums I think this weekend they're like I am can do it. Why can't we do it? That's why I think. If, if the if the League is fine with the rule being fifty percent, the make a fifty percent but don't you know don't Yummy me and tell me it's raining, right? Don't tell me you had twenty four thousand people there Shane you had sixty. Yeah, we also. We all saw that was the insulting thing to me. They released the official attendance is twenty four thousand. We see where their own is. A. Thanks. Joe. Joe. WHAT'S UP JOE Hey Matt how're you doing? Good. Data classification for you on that rule. With the spiked ball I'm. Football facial in the rules, the same high school college and the pro's. If you drop the football and fumble it and you cannot spike. So that was wrecked but you spike it backwards that is technically a fumble and when the referee blues were. So it was in whistle and by rule, that ball goes back to the team that had it in possession labs and you replay the down. Well, that's. All that I I think what they were complaining about one is. Was the fact that by doing it like that they lost both ways they get the penalty if it had been, you know. What is digital grounding and they didn't get the ball so like there were two scenarios that would have been better for Arkansas and they got neither of them Auburn got the only scenario that helped him. I didn't I. Didn't watch the game. So my question is when they when they replayed the down, did they did they go to the next down or did they actually you know replay the down? It didn't matter the game was over. There was only time for one more play. The reason that he had spiked it was because they only had time for one more play. So I don't know what down it actually technically was, but all they had time for was the kick. Well then but but then you would have an by rule, you would have an untimely down. But they talk wasn't the clock. The clock was not the issue. The issue was I believe it was now fourth down and they had to kick. But the question was Arkansas I've gotten the fumble should they have had to go? Backwards and none of those things happen. All they did was just moved back yard where he spiked it and then kick. Okay. Well, this still they should have actually moved back. They shouldn't have moved anywhere. They replayed the down from the from the previous spot and maybe that's what they louder bicket. Yeah. Maybe. They may have replayed the data I'm not sure I don't I don't know but the point and I appreciate you clarification. The point was it should have been a fumble and by the quote unquote inadvertent, whistle. Ryan. You've made where Arkansas they can get the ball and if I'm Arkansas I'm curious about. Yeah I was the coach was extremely furious about a chance to get it with the game. Knock have a big huge upset in there they could have had they could have been to in one. Because they beat Mississippi State. Last Leslie. What do you think about Mike? Leach by the way now after beating Lsu. Then losing to Arkansas and then getting shut out by Kentucky there are people who are saying the air raids not go work in the SEC are you ready to say that? Well after they beat, Lsu, I think he opened a lot of people's eyes but now we see LSU's probably a bad football team this year that so you lose to Arkansas, at home you get shut out by Kentucky. So maybe maybe it maybe they've got a little while before they're gonNA find developed themselves in the. Sec. Ready to be mayor, Shannon because that was not even. The question was, will the air-raid work in the SEC? I think I think he can work molly proved it can work with that was twenty, five years ago I mean you know now there's an argument people may have figured it out. He's gotTa get a quarterback that guy, the first guy the first quarterback mean the second quarterback he brought in I thought was better than I quarterback. I did the freshman second quarter sacred. We should had to pick six second we drop them. We'll take a break, five, five, seven today Abe is in Texas chains. Simpson. Backwards. What's it like to drive the Volvo xc ninety plug in hybrid? The thrill of a four hundred horsepower t eight twin engine. The joy of impromptu road trips. And the serenity. Of Electric Power pure ECO mode. Visit a DMV Volvo retailer today to experience the xc ninety recharge plug in hybrid for yourself. Expert listening to Kentucky Sports Radio. On Talk Radio ten eight. Back Kassai court physical therapy is proud to be the official sports, Rehab provider of high schools throughout the state. Athletes No sports and exercise. Hey, they can cause pain. So court physical therapy says everyday pain slow you down. If you need physical therapy, they have over sixty locations three types of care options in clinic ellery. Rab. Henry Rehab at home. No referral needed. No Doctor Feral no problem. COURT DOT com. That's K. O. R. T. DOT COM. Birthrights Matt First of all, we play Kansas Not Michigan State. He's right about that was real play Kansas Not Michigan State does that make any different for you Ryan and it's Kansas and not Michigan say, no, that's that's normal normal game in our schedule. It's going to be Kansas Michigan State or who's the third one due to The but but this person writes jobe hall schedules were as crazy as Ryan acts like let's look at nine, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two channels listen to these teams. Butler Notre Dame Villanova Detroit mercy to Lane Duquesne Illinois Indiana Kansas Yeah but you don't know about the one thousand, nine, hundred to Kane team. I mean they were they were tough. So Ryan does that sound that much crazier than our schedule this year Says a lot harder than our schedule this year at Duquesne team they were loaded. I know what I hear. Well, it's a way to look at that schedule Indiana I'm sure was great. Baller was not the Butler it is now. So you had Indiana Kansas is. Illinois Notre Dame Villanova's he had five hard games in Kentucky we'll have. Kansas Louisville which basically replaces Indiana. So now Notre Dame, we play both years. So Villanova in Illinois and we will replace them with. Let's say. A big twelve team, which will probably be a very good big twelve team and someone else. Richmond and Marshall Richmond. Richmond is top twenty, Ryan. I know you don't think so but they are. I know you told us that when we said the ritual was on the schedule earlier this year, it'll probably a decent game. I'll still give the edge jobe hall? But but it's not a crazy age. Like. You acted like jobe halls play. You know the the Lakers and that's not exactly what's happening yeah. He this person probably pig job as easiest schedule he had in his entire tenure and this is this may be the. Toughest schedule, he's had in his senior. He's the one that needs to be drug test. Joe Last year it was great tomorrow by the way. Tomorrow night the titans are supposed to play the bills. What. Time is the game? Is it six? They are still playing at. Aren't they still right now they're still playing. And drew is having a Titans Watch party KS BAR. So, if you are titans fan if you are Nashville and through titans. You. When are you going to get a Tuesday night game? They're never Tuesday night games. So you can combine taco Tuesday drew Franklin, and the titans that would be Tuesday night at the bar. So plan on wearing your titans gear, coming out and cheering the Cova Titans on Ryan against the business. I saw a story there were no more positive Kobe tests for the titans. So I think the game is it may actually happen may be on maybe on. That's right. One person writes, Matt, what did you think of the trump parade in Lexington yesterday around? New Circle. Did you see that Ryan. I saw video clips and I. It made me laugh when I saw some of the video clips. Hundreds of cars I don't know how many people one guy wrote me and said there were five thousand I have a hard time believing that there were five thousand cars on new circle they'd still be there but. There were there were a lot I. don't want to do it Ryan they had flags and they were driving around in the rain honking same trump. I mean I. It doesn't bother me if that's what you're getting at like people have a right to do that. If they want to do that. That's fine I mean. You know here's my view about things like that right it's the same thing. I say when protesters and they're usually on the left protesters go out and like block a highway. I'm like I. Don't know why you think that helps. Because if I'm on that highway and you're blocking me. I won't be a lot less likely to be on your side. You know what I mean because like I gotta go somewhere. Is Ryan there are you there? Yeah. Yeah. I looked at it. You get what I'm saying like. Blocks. Traffic. I'm bad. It'll make me frustrated similarly Shannon if I'm trying to get on new circle yesterday and there are. Hundreds of cars adding traffic that's not gonNA please me so I didn't see this where they just driving at a very slow speed just parading through or were they. They were just driving they just throw new circle. How familiar are you with new certain that much it literally circles the city. Okay. So you can you could stay on that road and just go around and around doing just driving in circles. Yes. They for two hours drove in circles. And the thing is for most of the road that's not a big deal. But when you get between what Ryan Richmond Road and. Let's say lease town. That's bad traffic there. As for all the stoplights are that's where all the stop lights are and from what I understand that lead to quite the the traffic jam yesterday on New Circle yet because there were some protesters anti-trump protesters out there with bullhorns yelling at the, but they would go by and some people are just like I just need to get to work. Can you guys all go fight this out somewhere else? Yeah. So anyway, but it was there were a lot of people. And that leads another person to Right Matt would you Shane Orion ever have flags for any politician on your car? I can answer that no we had flags and signs for every a presidential candidate for the Democratic convention that we went to. On the way back. Yeah. That's true but we didn't hang them from A. I had them in the window Oh. That's. Okay I can. All of them all out there equal opportunity for each. Shaving supported every candidates, right you know that's the way to do it just put every candidate make everybody happy I don't think I would put flags I'm as I've said before I'm not a bumper sticker person I have one bumper sticker on my car and it's for the book I wrote Otherwise Ryan I'm not a big like putting things on my car person I'm not either. But if you would have ended up running, we all would have probably put flags up for you and bumper stickers. I would have asked that you not because you probably would have wrecked the car with my flag on it. There's somebody gets a picture of that. You had a great offer stickers if I could see myself having a bumper sticker, I just don't think I would ever have a flag but that's I couldn't even do a bumper sticker. You wouldn't even put a bumper sticker for me on. No I would maybe. Put a bumper sticker for me on your because then it stuck on there and you gotta get the stickiness. Magnet. Okay. That's fine. All right. I'll get shipped five run. To get a special order of one. Shannon for a man, it's not it's nothing against you. It's against the sticky residue that. I I'm with you the sticky residue is a huge annoyance. Bob and. Bob How're you why you Dan guys as? Comment about Joe Morgan, he was a member of the Reds Hall of fame. Started in seventy two played through the seventy nine season. back-back Most Valuable Player when they were in the world series and seventy, five and seventy, six in. One of their best all time second baseman going to miss him. Say, the big red machine. Thing when he would hit Ryan where your take his I guess it was his right elbow and eat flap it like chicken like he kind of campaign. Go every kid grew up in that time everybody did it in their backyard and try to do that? Do they flap like that oh? We all did we all had to do a little Joe Morgan thing right now if you're listening Shannon a lot of people like me I'm acting like I'm hoping that M flapping more Radiation where you doing it? Yeah. That's what everybody picture right now they're very exciting. The little general thing. Yeah. Thank you. Bye. Appreciate it by WHO's next WHO's next? Let's go to Dave Dave. How are you dave? Hey I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for taking my call. I was GonNa talk about you mentioned into. Enforcing the rules for the COVID RULES FOR A. Stadium Attendance this year? And we went to the the OMB Ole Miss Game. And rolled up in the parking lot because all your tickets when you bought tickets this year, they came with parking. So we're in the Blue Lot, we roll up and you know they're supposed to be no tailgating. That's all they preached zero tailgating. So there's people tailgating like everywhere. There's no cares out and everything they're spread now and there's this little guy in a golf cart riding around. And he's telling them not no tailgating guys aren't supposed to Tailgate, and then as you cows this he goes. But you can do at this time. Don't do. I'm like you can enforce this stuff if you want to. I mean if you really want to enforce it. Yeah. You know I have a little sympathy on the tailgating because if they if people. I mean I understand why they don't WanNa have tailgating but at the same time view is if people sort of spread their cars out, I'm okay. Because chances are your tailgate and with the people that you're around anyway in live exactly and and that's how it pretty much was but you know don't it's always you know it's like you say it's not a rule there's not a punishment and you know it's not. Just. It's just drive around and going I wish you wouldn't do that probably won't do. Appreciates I mean listen? All of this stuff a rule is not ruled out punishment and the SEC. We're GONNA find out Ryan if they really want their coaches to wear masks because Jimbo Fisher didn't wear masks I don't even know what jam recruit was wearing. It looked like look like. Lane Kiffin was wearing a handkerchief on his face. Did you see that? It seemed like every time I'd see a cut away of a coach. No matter who it was at some point during the game didn't have their mascot. The rule is wear mask until they talk Shannon we they need to wear the most I don't really understand what they're thinking with that. I mean is it hard to hear the? The micro valve. Through the microphone to the quarterback when they're calling the plays I don't I don't know I'm just trying to think of Our leave that either people say. You don't know how that's like yes. I do you know Ryan Freddie does his radio Freddie does radio appearances with us with his mask on he did the pre-game show Saturday with his mask on and nobody really knew. Maybe, you could tell a little bit. It's not distracting or anything. So I don't believe that either. Bottom. Line is if the if the if the lead doesn't want the coaches to wear the mask fine, I don't even care. But you can't mandate a rule and then not enforce it. Similarly. You cannot say to people, you can only have twenty five or thirty three percent attendance and let Texas A and bring the entire state into the stadium. Just, make a decision, but you've got to enforce well, they can fix this. They would give every coach the same mask say this is the mask you have to wear. I'd be fine with that. It does seem like stoops's pretty good at keeping his mask on. Yeah. He knew new job Saturday night when they take a shot of him, he had it on. On a lot of the time but then he would he would pull it down when he talked to somebody, there will never be a stupid look mass though the Jeremy proves. There will never be a moment that there's one dumber than that. It'll be pointed out he looks like Beavis. Yes he'll BEAVIS E. We're. More chaos are blue lights across the bluegrass county by county virtual tour presented by the Kentucky Office. Of Highway Safety. After. This to talk to Matt Jones and the crew called the Clark's pumping shop phone line at five, zero, five, seven, one, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, four, eighty. Now. Back Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Tenny. Back. Sports, Radio for the month October Don Franklin's family of dealerships donate twenty five dollars for every new vehicle sold to operation to the OH. You are rescue organization operation, underground railroad, rescue mission fights against human trafficking, and you can help at dawn Franklin. Go to during the month of October also thousand dollars more for your trade. They really do pay more at dawn Franklin Auto Dot Com. Shane. Did you see that after show after repr- announced this guy's name? Yeah. You call them poppy. James Pope. Yeah. Okay, first of all. Round the CEO of sleep outfitters. His name Mike P. O. P. P. E.. Now if you saw that. Wouldn't you assume that was poppy Probably. Because Pope is just P. O. P. E.. Why have the extra pay Shannon? If you're pope why do you need the the repeats? Sometimes you need the P.. Pees is pope three three-piece is poppy wouldn't you think that? Well Hey he's supposed name how he spells his name I mean he had I'm they should maybe put in the pronunciation copy S.. Eight peas in there can be Peo- peop-. That's fine. But when I see P. O. P. P. I'm assuming pop. I wonder if. That could have been just a misspelling. Oh you they might be. Yeah Typo. Yeah. Then it's not on you. It's on whoever typed the script. Let's just like the case that way I don't get. It. Thank you very much. I liked it. One person writes Matt Tell Shannon if he wants to get rid of the residue use wd forty and it comes right off only use it on my knees. Put but that's Is that a tip that works I. Guess I've never tried it. Become a bumper sticker gun. Now I find that I can get the residue off I've always deserted soap and water does the trick that you're saying wd forty. Try. If, ever want to put a bumper sticker on their. Yeah. Well. I know want you might put Mitch please I've got a box of them. No one wants them. Well I just have never had a chance to give him out. I got this huge box and people I was going to give them away. But where am I mean? The thing is I don't see any bus true at remote. Brought him to remote. I don't see like we never see anybody. Book signing could had a bunch of those. I mean th they love. It. Doesn't happen. What are you going to do? By the way we do want to note we got our Louisville writings on Friday once again came in number one. Thank. You all very much I. Don't you know I know he say that a lot but I don't WanNa take it for granted we've had seven years So we've been on the air for ten years. They're the first year we did. Well, I, don't know that we ever got to number one the second year we got to number one once or twice and people were like that will that won't continue. But starting in year three, we basically have been number one of the twenty eight ratings books over the last seven years we were number one, twenty, six times number two twice the two times we were just number two, it was country music. But Ryan we always are thankful and I want to thank everybody again. And always just kind of blows me away. So it's very, very, very humbling. Every time it comes in we see that and so thank you very much and Mcginn. It's not number one in sports radio it's all radio. And it never like that doesn't happen anywhere in America here. When people try to say that sports are big in other places not like here nowhere else in America is the number one show. Sports Radio on am it's just not and that's testament to all of you. Who's next jared jared what's up here Good Morning. That record sounds about like the Kentucky Women's cheerleaders title. Soviet the rifle team. That's right. You're exactly right those are the ones. But I won't talk about Kentucky Wes Versus Kentucky, South last night, and the finals and I had a feeling the Lakers win, but it seemed like to me. They made it look pretty easy. And then my second comment and I'll hang up and listen is Why do we always need to compare Bron Michael Time you know it seems like it's you know. Two people got their own opinions and it's to me it's senseless even talk about it. And I'm with you totally on both those first of all in the Lebron thing. I said something like Friday night while I was watching that Game Ryan I was like Lebron's great if he were like Jordan like. So what do we don't? We don't do that in anything else in life you know what I mean like if I go this television shows great people don't just write me and go. It's not as good as this other television like. Just appreciate Lebron is great. Like you may not think he's good as Jordan who cares he's great. But for some reason I'm when we talk about. Lebron. The people just want to immediately compare him to Jordan who cares about Jordan Lebron is great. A super believable talent that we should all just appreciate joy. He's now what three titles of three different teams I mean four, what four, thousand, three, different it's amazing. Isn't joy it appreciate what we're getting to witness. We talked about the tennis greats best of our time life lifetime right now. Well, he's one of the visible lifetime just enjoy it right now I think we. One. The Front Reference Open yesterday I didn't go but you're not as good as federal like you're just like he won the French Open. That's awesome. Go ahead. I just think that everybody wants to believe that they grew up watching the best. So for people my age or your age that we probably think Jordan a lot of us do but even if you think he's the best, don't people try to diminish let's say you think Lebron the second best player of all time he still the second best player all time. That's unbelievable. Shange Jordan was better though. Exactly this. Is. Exactly to say, Congrats, Anthony Davis Ri- Rondo and Frank. Vogel. Three cats going and getting titles. Yeah for that Frank Vogel Story is still amazing. You tweeted out about Rondo. Unique coffee both great points about Rondo. The fact that you know giving back the city of we've got gets forgotten all these Great Kentucky guys are in the NBA but Rondo man he's been he's been in a long time with his second title now. So gradually played well, I mean I was over and he comes out was probably the third best player for the Lakers. Game last night, we were standing outside and empty kroger `field parking lot last weekend, and the golf cart patrol made all six of US pollen to an SUV for the remaining hour before kickoff. And that seems absolutely ridiculous. I mean seriously that seems like if you're if you're worried about spread Kobe, why would you put them back inside a car? That makes zero sense no sense at all. Yeah. I mean, look everybody's doing the best they can I get that and like we've talked about this before some of these rules don't seem to make sense if you compared to other rules but you know everybody's doing the best, they can't I get it but there are times I'm like. Why would that be better? Yeah. The inconsistencies driver. Crazy. Yeah. Well, what are you? GonNa do who's next sully sully I got like a minute go ahead. All Right Hey, guys I. Long Time I'm just calling to talk a little bit about the the atmosphere between the commoners and those in the box seats. So my girlfriend and I, we were on the UK side on the bench and near the boxes and TAP alita comes on. So someone from the box and starts yelling about liberal stone, half the people start laughing until they realized that the guy doesn't have a math yelling from the boxes then all the commoners. Turning on this guy in the police eventually have to get involved in includes people in a box meaning over and saying, well, we don't have to wear masks appear and continuing to taunt everybody. So shout out to the UK employee. Connie. For for defusing that WHO knew, there was a class war at the Games. Cloud there was a class for how? Networks Pensions and manager high out there. Well, listen I appreciate your call. Tomorrow we start fully engaged with the ball's coming at them through the Sudan. I'm Joe Biden candidates for president nine through this message when it comes to criminal justice reform history has not been on our side I feel as though the nation has become desensitized but black people have not as a father. I. Have to turn around and talk to my twelve year old signed about police interactions is scares the hell out of Joe and Carmello uniquely understand the plight of what we've been going through. Those are the things I do trust him with two leaders to that. These are the candidates to push congress and say, we can't get there before Biden, for president.

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"In comedy on Broadway and Lexington, Green Welcomes Club, favorite, and comedy veteran. Henry to October eighth through the then catch the queen of Southern Sas A. May. For Two big weeks October fifteen through the twenty four. Don't miss the clean and always Larry Humor of. October twenty, nine through the thirty first or comedy off Broadway showtimes and tickets go five, nine, two, seven, one joke or visit comedy, on Broadway Dot Com. Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Tanning. Now here's back job. Everyone Kentucky Sports Radio Wednesday October Twenty First I've met Jones here on a gorgeous day after two days of Nastiness and rain. It's gorgeous. Day here in Lexington Kentucky. So we are the case Bar Grille all three of us. We got ride lemon. We got through Franklin and we have me Matt Jones. You can give us a shout on the Clark's Papa Chat Phone Line. That's five Oh, two, seven, one, eighty, eight, vision glass text machine seven, seven, two, seven, seven, four, five, two, five, four, this this spots about t j Smith. Law Fiscal Tj make pay. About a week since I've been out here. It's perfect day snow. I think it's really going to be nice for a couple of days. So yeah, after that, like you said, the Nastiness we had for a kind of feels good to sit out in the sunshine. Doesn't it's right getting us. Ready for the big game drew Franklin this here after a couple days off and drew. For the rest of US we've had a lot of time talking about, but you haven't been on the air since we beat the Tennessee vols I probably hate Tennessee more than you but you're Sackett and you have to deal with a father. That's Tennessee Fan. What was the win like Foyer Just like. Everyone else listening I was ecstatic I. Still Kinda have a little bit of disbelief not that they won. I feel like it was pretty evenly matched going into the game but just how it happened in the back back, pick sixes there that was unbelievable to watch. The whole game. So I'm still living it up. I was watching it with your dad did not let him in. He came over I said not today we can't do this. He went home. Mom told me that began the fourth quarter. He had gone to practice putting at a local golf course, and then he came over to watch the night game wearing a ut shirt and he had written basketball on the. Basketball shirts he'd already given up. Their starting they're starting to act like they're basketball school noticed the I've been hearing all about how good they're going to. They're going to be Kentucky. You remember how the pre-game show you may pick our four likely scenario. We thought we thought US Boeing out was the least like all of us the the Kentucky blow out was the least like listeners didn't think they could score the points necessary to do it but they took fourteen of them free no that that helped but. You know I was thinking about this driving here yesterday. I'm not sure like. I guess if if we were to ever Georgia or Alabama maybe that's it but I'm not sure we're GONNA have to many more. Effective exciting wins like we've had these last few years I mean you could argue that in the last three seasons Kentucky's had three wins. The none of us believe we were GonNa win that were just unbelievably happy and exciting all of which were on the road. You're right you know beating Louisville with Amar Florida. Down there and this one, all three games that we didn't think we were going to win all three games that we all felt like we're going to be the worst, and then we won and in all three of in two of the three one. I'll even throw in winning a New Year's Day bowl game against Penn State road thought we could win that. You didn't think we could win I wasn't for sure for those four big monumental program changing type wins. All in this short time period it it makes you feel like finally the culture's changing a little bit here. Even before this past win, we've been saying for a while stoops just has a way of getting them ready on the road I mean he had south, Carolina's number there for a couple of years. So I saw your Smith had to play. Last year I mean they played will in Gainesville and some losses, and there's just something about how he gets them going on the road they do put you. That's a really good point I mean they play better on the road then vertically any coach we've had in terms of on the row I mean, the sometimes are clunkers or at home like against. Outside of going to Knoxville, the Year Kentucky was favored. There hasn't been any just. Completely have shown. Georgia's warped. You could even. Georgia you were competitive in that game you were able to move the ball even mirrors pouring rain right that was lynn bones like second game, but he was still able to move the ball. So you know I mean I was on this morning with the SEC radio guys Cole Cubelic and Jacob Pastor and they asked me and they weren't kidding. Do you. Think you guys can be competitive at Alabama. And I was like well. I mean no but. I don't know like like they were asking me like it was a serious question. The defense is playing really will, but you know we saw Alabama's offense against Georgia's defense Saturday night. I'm look I'm not saying we'RE GONNA win I'm just saying like I don't feel like there are this is the great thing about stoops I don't feel like there's any game that I am certain. We're going to go get barest. Would you agree with the Hell Yeah it can happen you can lay an egg but going in every game we at least have a little bit of confidence. There's a reason to watch and yours past it's like. Here, we go. Again, lose by eighty. There's none of those anymore. Yeah. No, I agree with you. So we are at here. I almost stopped by got the What is it the egg? What was it called the engaging over here at first was the name of it I sit to you heaven on on a bun is what it was almost got one of those but then I did because I was. Had an interview to do but but the whatever it was I sent you you said was so good. I'm telling you was standing picked avocado off I don't like Avocado, but the rest of it was incredible. He doesn't like anything that might be a little good for him. Yeah. Yeah. Know five a good for your not. There's some breaking news this morning, they just announced the SEC big twelve challenge. Of course, happens every year in basketball. Kentucky is home this year for the game and they just announced our opponent will be Texas Texas will come and play at Rob I. Think we played Texas. WanNa WanNa say Twenty fifteen the team that was malls Turner I think I think we played Texas in read ahead of you on the breaking news thing Matt Hang On. Let me know before he tells. I should have worked that out you. My Ego. We're GONNA play taxes and that will I don't know if that was part of the Jay Lucas trade or not is to be it is there a gentlemen's agreement that he has to sit out Lucas is not allowed in the building for that game I Guess Texas you'll have Greg Brown right. So we'll get to see a big man that we wanted here. good opponent couldn't play Kansas because we play in the champions classic playing Tennessee actually. But Texas good opponent, right? Yeah. I I tried to scramble and read some of the preseason rankings because I'll be honest nothing about Texas and it looked like most of us all they're in the top twenty ish eighteen, nineteen, twenty on different sites obviously shock smart still they're ready to to disappoint them again but ground's great player so he'll be tough I is cow's head about to explode with this crazy tough schedule is so let's talk about the schedule for a second. Kentucky is only allowed to play twenty seven games this year. Eighteen number SEC? That means we have nine games left the Games we know replying. We know we're applying number one. Louisville. We know we're playing number two cans isn't champions classic we know we're planning number three notre. Dame. We know we're playing the three teams in the Mt. Hartford. Was Not Hartford, moorhead Richmond and WHO's Roy Detroit. So at six, we now know we're playing Texas that seven we now know we're playing martial. Very likely, which would be eight and then Georgia tech, which is already been an answer we nine. So that's the whole schedule. It looks like it looks like we're not going to be playing in the. CBS. Classic. Unless there's something I don't know 'cause looking I think you only get nine games. I guess in theory if they did the CBS classic, maybe they wouldn't play Marshall I don't know. But let's just assume that that's a schedule. Let's assume the schedule is Kansas Louisville Notre Dame Texas Georgia. Tech. Marshall. Detroit moorhead. Richmond. Do you like it right. It's a better scheduling. We've had the last couple of years to be honest. But it's no different than the one you railed against all year. No last year's horrible. Last couple of years have been horrible home schedule the home rub schedules when I'm really upset about mountain mainly every year. So this year is home rupp schedule is. Texas. Notre Dame Notre Dame and then the conference. Yeah. I mean I'm giving them kind of pass this year because it's Kobe but still. That level this year I get it back and forth. There's this is no different than what just a couple of weeks ago you screamed about like it's literally the same games we just now no, it's Texas. Yeah. I. Mean I wish they would upgrade the Georgia tech in the Marshall and. Even Georgia Tech. Georgia tech seems to be the ones that he'd ever upgraded. Yeah. They don't need. Don't need to play Georgia Tech. In Atlanta too. Yeah. That's totally ridiculous. Is it still like right after thanksgiving? I think they moved it to early December. It'd be nobody I think the champions classic. Actually this year I think is going to be right there after thanksgiving. Yeah. So the season is going to start right before thanksgiving. I don't know what our first game will be, but the season, the season was right before Thanksgiving so a month away, you don't think about it. One of the things we do here at the bars, we compare how we're doing this year to last year, which is not a fair comparison because. You know we can't have folk pass you know that, but we look at it just to see. And I, I realized that looking at this coming weekend that this was like the start of the season like we're in our first exhibition game last year at this week. That's crazy to think about. Really. Our first exhibition game was this weekend last year my goodness remember I mean Kentucky played just to give you an example Kentucky Played Michigan State and the Champions Classic on election night yeah. Because I remember I was checking the Bashir beverage stuff from square garden so. that the elections two weeks from yesterday. So the season would start man in a normal year two weeks from now that doesn't even seem possible right now sitting here today that we will be two weeks away from playing Kansas. So it is crazy fake I mean college basketball is still sort of in the back of all of our minds without a doubt. But in a normal year, we'd be about to watch them play for the. Plan Exhibition Game. Usually, by now, we've already done campout madness all the preseason interviews we know everything about them right now I don't know anything about this. Steve No one does time they play their first game. Let's see. Let's play a game Shannon. Let's play a game can ryan lemon named the UK roster. Okay. We think that he can. Yes. There are ten guys I think. Tan. Maybe eleven that are on scholarship. I'm not even going to bring up the Walker. Okay. I just want you. Can You name are Kentucky Basketball Roster let me before you do it drew do you think he'll be able to I'm going to go big no big no saying it. Yes. I believe in. You. Know, I'm GONNA go no. In the back of my head I know the one he's GonNa Forget. That's that's that's why I think I know he's GonNa Forget. All right. So let me let me quickly take my mind. How many players they have I believe they have yes. Ten guys am I right about there I am not good at doing this on the on radio. They have ten scholarship. Players. I. Feel Pretty Good about that. Can you give us our team I'm going to try. Here we go. BJ Boston. There's one devon ask you to Damian Mints. There's three. then. I'll go. Try Go some big guys here. Terence. Clark. Has Four Isaiah Jackson Five. Olivier saw six. Brooks seven. Dante Allen Eight. Ob Top brother. Jacob. Actually that's eleven I forgot. More left that's nine. Now there's two more left it there well including him, I. I'M GONNA stand still right now they're both doing very well in camp. allegedly. He just said Isaiah Jackson Isaiah Jackson. There's another one. There's another one doing well and camp. Go I don't know I I'm drawing a blank right now three now no, I'm going to blank out of. Ron Fletcher See I wouldn't have come up with him and Lance. Yeah, you didn't say. When I was, I didn't think you were going to get where I thought. She'd get Cameron Fletcher Yeah I draw blank on the. Early I know this though they can walk in a stand in a line right here and I wouldn't know camera Fletcher as Ahah Jackson Lance Weyer by their face. No I wouldn't know him either I will penalize them for saying Amigo, the big guys Terence Clark. Not of eleven's okay. Actually to be fair I don't think I would immediately gotten Jacob Topic. Yeah. Even though I should've. So it's a different year, it is. Different years is a different thing and we're picking them up slower. It's just going to be. How it is all the years for the biggest roster turnover too I mean. To me, we we we need to know. Two guys back I'm one of whom didn't play last year Don Williams one God it's GonNa be on that floor that y'all see that we knew. Absolutely it's kind of amazing to five seven, one eighty at y sports radio. We will take a break be back sitting out here on a beautiful day KS Bar and grill. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. To Jones and the crew called the Clark's pup and shop phone line at five, Oh, two, five, seven, one, ten, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, four, hundred, Eighty Orson is the Kentucky Brandon chaos or Tweet of the day by twenty met at y sports radio. You're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio on talk. Radio Tinny. What Sports radio. I write for the text seventy, seven, seven, four, five, two, five, four, Matt you guys host the number one show in Kentucky and maybe the biggest local sports show in this country. Yet you don't know all the names of the players. What does that say 'cause you don't need to we're in mental football season right now it also says you don't need to if there's one thing that's overrated and doing sports radio. Knowledge. And knowing the names of the people in serious with you like it doesn't matter media matters like you can't just not know anything but like no, the most details about sports is not out to be sports radio host it's being entertaining, right? and. What's very entertaining is Ryan not being able to name anything. I'm just proud of myself. I got nine I was I thought you were going to miss three or four to be honest. The same was the elevated egg I'm telling you we all. Now. Swatch feel free to previously I would I would really enjoy that Matt, after the football season started with us not playing best why does Ryan keep insisting we shouldn't play cupcakes didn't. We see this year that without cupcakes you might lose games you wouldn't have I want the basketball team to play a couple of cupcakes to get going. play exhibition game, but we can't play of this year. You Mine Wake Up Gate with the twenty twenty is a different year. University of Kentucky needs to play the best of the best they shouldn't run from anybody they shouldn't run. We lost. Bill. That's true and they shouldn't have they should be embarrassed and shame on losing Evansville last year you want to pay somebody better. Every Year Kentucky should not run from anybody when it comes to basketball schedule. I disagree on. BUZZER beater from John, wall to beat Miami of Ohio. I'm weight loss Evansville. There's always a couple I won't hey lean out the season with the champions classic because everybody Kinda knows it's like you know whatever it's the start of the year I do think after the champions classic they should play three or four stinky teams I do I think. Then, what about in December while we still playing? Well, that's different I do think. I thought toby did it the best? Stinky teams and then every Saturday in December. You played somebody A. Lot I'd like that. So let's say I last Saturday December you play Louisville the next three you play a power in one of them and some decent teams in the other ones I that's what I would. Yeah. So like back tubby used to do what he play like Carolina Michigan. State maybe then like Georgia Tech and Louisville. When you had. Maryland. When they were really good he'll get the Michigan State Series Indiana just anybody. Fairly Dickinson and Texas. Early tickets and you're okay. I drove by by the way Carina this morning you're right. They're not. They're not going to be able to have a game there and six weeks I mean I've wondered why more people have been talking about it looks like Kosovo down there like a war zone is you know I always cut around what's the road I use the Forbes go by Red Mile and all that. So I've I've I've missed that part of town. It looks there there is no way they can have a game down there in six weeks. When people ask you how many fans I don't think they're gonNA let players in. -struction site I literally looks like the whole thing is, where's by going to park or drive? Yeah. The right now I think the plane is you park on that the high parking lot and come in those doors on that side. That's the only entrance right there they can't entertain. Excursions you just walk under him. Looks an explosion is gone on it does really does a couple of public service announcements. People want me to make. Let's start with this. Flu Shots everybody needs to have a flu shot people are I just got mine? last week where'd you get it at the doctor? Okay. Well, if you're UK student or Grad student, you could get the flu shot at Kroger field from nine to four any day this week or next week they wanted me to say that. Okay. For the rest of us you need to get a flu shot. We get flu shot. No. Why not I just don't like Oh what does that mean I got one one time I know everybody says this is not can't happen. It's not just got one one time and it's the sickest I've ever been. But it wasn't because of the flu shot, I don't know I to bring out I'm bringing out. It wasn't like internal to you. There was a flu inside of you that it brought a at what I don't know but I have. Ruined the public service in it I. I can confirm Abbey which of the UK through which is fine. She didn't get the flu after. The county court clerk in Lexington has said. All across the state, there has been record early voting. Good. But not in Lexington really the county court clerk says and he he announced this yesterday folks. If some of you all don't vote early, it's going to be a disaster on election to. because. They only have four spots on election day. So I would say to you if you're in Lexington if you can vote early, go to one of these spots and vote early because they're saying for whatever reason, why do you think Lexington people take long I don't know like all these small towns they're having a lot people. But for whatever reason in Lexington people are not showing up and he's worried that everybody's GonNa show up on election day and it's going to be. will be out the door outdoor on the sidewalk. So what do you think how do you fix that? Well, doing what you just did get the word out and now people be scared and maybe get off their butts go vote early. Now because nobody wants to go, you do not want to go stand for our. No. So I've already voted have you voted not yet I'm waiting on my ballot and they should ask for a long time ago they should pro- you might not be getting. Do, if you don't have it yet. I'd be I'd be. Getting line. Right now you need to go early. Yeah. I. I'm going to go at the moment I've lost my wallet when I don't have I don't have. Anything normal with you know. This one is really bothers me because I think it's you lost your whole. Yeah. Part of the fell out of the car yesterday the best buy a parking lot. where it is, it's gone. Yeah Yeah. So. Your credit card I'm GonNa be what are you gonNA stop waiting. I'm really depressed about this one. She probably called already been. White. Now. After the show probably. After you announced everybody where it's. Pronounced where you lost A. Parking lot now out there we lost it the exact moment be lost. On on the airwaves now you're gonNA say well, call later. Yeah I lost one on Bourbon. Street. At three. Am One time and had to call I called right away. I lost out here at the music thing. Once remember all I. do remember that I lost my wallet and had to cancel every. That's a it is a pain. It's a pain to Ha- happens I I t I'm totally with you. So are you going to get a ID before you vote I gotTa do you gotTa go get one vote Sean and I d just you could just spend the day all. It's a good day. We're listening to Kentucky Sports Radio on Talk Radio Tenny. Back. Take sports radio. Five zero two, five, seven, one, eighty, texting Simpson Simpson. Four, five, two, five, four, one person writes Matt. Found Rides Wallet. If you'll just give me his pin number, I let him know what it is. Apparently bought bucky small. who was a hot tub so I hope you appreciate that his pin numbers definitely one, two, three, four. Or zero zero zero zero. You know you're exactly right about that. That's exactly what your number is. I hate when they asked me to pin my pin number because it's always whatever I was thinking of at that time and I have to go back to this, just happened the other day. I was trying to think about pin number with at and T. and I had to go back. When did I start eighteen? What would have been important in my mind back then? You don't get universal. No because I think the theory about that is if somebody somehow got it in your vulnerable with everything, they tell you not to do that. Yeah but then you. Forget it so. What what what good did that do that point? At y sports, radio, let's, who's up first. We'll start with Caleb Caleb are you UK by the way just so you know there's two things I have here when we do Nicholas County in the second hour I'm going to tell the fact that I can't wait to hear Shannon's Lalo real. No, he's GonNa Laugh Shannon. I sued as I wrote this down I was like I know Shannon's go laugh at this. Now I'm not gonNA Walk Spoil It for you. Now I want you to laugh because you're laugh is infectious and it makes everybody. Hey guys how're you doing? Good. y'All done this with the SEC basketball coach before. On I was interested your thoughts on SEC football coaches. On like an all out. You know back early raw. Fighting. To me if there's a fight with football coaches, personal mark stoops be their toil the end. It'd be one last one saying. But Orange Iran or Gironde I would. I would take ordure on in a fight over almost anybody because I think he's half insane actor at the end it the on. looker. Well, let me go through here real quick. If there's a fight with all the football coach, I'll tell you who's out curvy smarts not beating up anybody and. ally. Drink with Missouri. Drake with is not by Sabin not beat anybody up. I think Dan Mullen seems like kind of a win Mike Leach. Mike leads is lie where he's kind of like me he'll talk a lot but then he'll run away. I think your last ones are probably. Must. Champ. Don't forget Derek Mason advantage. Excuse. Yeah. All right. So final four must champ stoops or Giron. Derek Mason. Like it. because. Out early champion there at the end with. But again, I think shame spam. Verified. I think. Somebody. You got. The rule when I was growing up as you never fight crazy and I feel like must champ is insane. So I'm going on. Who Comes in second hang on WHO's in second? Baby stoops. Stoops are. Got Derek Mason. He's. Put him first over origin. He's big duties Jack. Jack. Second, thing Kalem. One what about if you add in the If you add in the coaches, I mean fence barrow a beat everybody up right BEEN SMELLS BIG DUDE I wouldn't want and I appreciate Caucasian but I would not wanNA fight man I don't know all the assistant coaches roles have raised. Some of those dudes have insane people I think fans would be just too happy would be like shake people's hands in the crowd he'd get a little distracted posing. With stoops's matchup this week and drink with I. Think he's just really. Really. Throw him. WHO's the WHO's The wimpy? Est. drink what's So. I don't even know anything about him and I'm just completely you think you think tragedy. That's true. Lane Kiffin Kirby smart and quits or the. Area Jeremy Pruitt, which is fires defensive line coach and blame him. Who would missing? Jimbo. Fisher Fisher. He's going to be trying to keep hair plugs without he's not saving Molin. Have Coke you got throw them. One Dude at Arkansas is huge. Yeah. But he's older. So I I think he'd do like Yokozuna Shannon just sit in the middle of the rain lot. Who the final guys are. We've gone through everybody yeah or Jurong that look dude or Johnson saying by the way my thing about order on is not a good coach. Is GonNA end up true I know he won the title last year but he had seventeen dudes get drafted. I I just think I. I like him. He's fun. But I just don't know that I. Think he's a good coach fight he would definitely no pressure points he's the type of. Up and talk trash while doing to be punching or. Third. Listen to your order. Saying Shane getting another impression into his repertoire their who's next let's go to Gary. Gary what's up Gary? the the reason why is going the game Saturday? Think what looks good to the right of the season is the second half when the receivers and the quarterback finally started getting those slant passes to make the de back out where they didn't have those guys in the box, and then now you're seeing Drennan and coming up into the mix as they got the athletic ability to compete with the Georgia's in Alabama's as long as we're playing championship level defense like we had the last two games and that offense those receivers catching the ball and loosen things up for the running game I think chance whenever The rest of the year. We know if you go back two years ago when we were playing with many all those guys, they were able to throw the ball drew by throwing slants I mean that's what we were good at, and then occasionally he'd get one over the top. We hit the slants were not getting hit and Gary's right. They did get hit in the second half even the first half Ali. If he doesn't run into coverage there maybe breaks one there on a slant. It still seems you don't have the home run hitter remember Jeff Debt. that. Yeah. You had a guy that could just run. We'll even Lynn. Yeah. Yeah, and they lacked that and then I still watch these SEC games in other schools just had these guys you know are going to play on Sundays the Seth Williams going up Moss and people hatch I feel like we're just getting farther and farther away from those by not showing, you can do it now. Just twelve we do. We do have. We do have three guys that are kind of delicious. They're freshman. You're exactly right. I appreciate the call we do have those guys. You know we have four receivers in this year's recruiting class and I was looking at and you know I I think Justin Roland knows this stuff as well as anybody he was listing our current class and we have like twenty commitments or whatever, and he wrote thirteen or fourteen where solid and there were four or five. But we still have to be careful about and it was all four of our Wasi so. Including, Kale and I and I'm sure that's in part because he receivers WanNa see like are we going to throw you know I would not blame to cal if he wanted to go somewhere else right now Hey. Hey I don't want to happen but why would you say that if you're a recruit watching UK football right now on your receiver, it's not very inviting. I wrong. Wouldn't say about somebody we know no mistake. But if you're a talented receiver and you're watching that it's a big concern. I disagree with you only because. A lot of it would depend on what's the conversation you're having with the coach but i. Could see somebody thinking like you are. You also could see somebody saying I can come in and play I mean it just depends on what your outlook is. You know. And you know the other other schools are probably that against Kentucky and the other thing is whatever you think of Terry Joey Gatewood Imbo Allen certainly have a better arm true. Yes. So that's gotTA. Be The future of Kentucky football's probably going to be totally you're gonNA. If you're kill you're going to, and all those guys are going to be deciding based on what you think these other quarterbacks do i. mean that's ultimately what it is. Isn't it? Yeah go Allen. Would probably a big part of that message for the the younger younger guys even current high school guys like to kill. I'm sure they're here nothing but look at Bo L. and he's we're waiting to get to him or we're going to throw it more and your guy to go downfield and we are go-to Guy. Art Shannon back there go. There's right. Mr Sh- Shannon's the guy just says, tells the truth right? Right. He's the guy who used to call and give the bad news calls them like sees them. WHO's next? Let's go to John Short. John Short. How are you? I can't hear you John Put. Doing, good, house north, Carolina. I saw video events, sing and Tom t hall on the way down the road. Good. What's your favorite? Tom T hall song we'll play it coming back from break. They must have talked to you house on is. Or else join. Me and Jesus. All right. We will play that when we come back you prediction you said cats by twenty-five biggins against Tennessee and we ended up winning by what twenty-seven you didn't even even get. We covered your spread. So what are you guys doing? It gets Missouri. Missouri bad. Came biggest and his. Question. To Pottsville alone. Is. Still Alive. Well, yes this is a question. I did not think Johnson whatever ask. Than any of you see that as the question Oh, ask. What brings that Question John A math fashion somebody else has a question if I didn't have that. I. Don't think cost to live. But But we'll find out I. Can you Pay County Yes, we will come back from the next break. Appreciate the call to. Devolve questions that I thought John would ask I did not see a two-putt Question Cup but you know what? He's a man of many. Life Yell likes his music maybe he liked but from Tom t hall to. See Likes Dano season. Yeah. Of course. Yes. The my favorite thing about the fall is comfort food is yes. Okay and nothing gives you more comfort than day. No sees all great. You put it in there you get the spices it gets on your tongue. Next thing you know you're having tongue magic reindel. It's an incredible seasoning with larger than life flavor think about the flavor you used to. Think about it probably just medium than life. This is larger. That's what happens. Dan. Those people absolutely love it. You can order yours today Dan seasoning dot com and I encourage you to go to that website check it out maybe order some see if you like or they're starting to get it in these restaurants and not in the restaurants in the grocery stores and that makes it very happy. This now, this is all in caps. It's very important. You Ready Dano seasoning is made with just the good stuff in life all natural unrefined sea salt and the best herbs and spices there exist. That's what makes it taste good with right. So Dan seasoning dot com it's Dan. tastic. It's Dan. Terrific. It's Dan Oh might staying. We'll be right back more of the chaos are blue lights across the bluegrass county by county virtual tour presented by the Kentucky Office of Highway Safety. After, this to talk to Jones and the crew called the Clark's pump and shop phone line at five, zero, two, five, seven, one, ten, eighty, or one, eight, seven, seven, nine, zero, four, eighty. ME. Now back to Kentucky Sports Radio on talk. Radio. Song to it's a good song what I always tell people. Don't like when. People say to me Matt. You're Chris. How can you be a Democrat too and I'm always like it's none of your business like the Jesus got our own thing. We don't need you to tell us what it's all about. I Don I ask you if it was okay what I thought. And I agree let's Tom t hall. Say. John Shorten are exactly the same. Old relationship with Jesus. And it doesn't. It can be about anything you don't have to say nobody asks frank what he thought. Franklin and. Let's be frank. Tech Scene Seven, seven, two, seven, four, five, two, five, four. Let's talk about a couple of news. Did you see John Wall yesterday Shannon was doing an interview on ESPN? And he was at his house on Zoom. And in the middle of the interview, he just was playing spades. What's wrong with that? I thought that was pretty. was paying a lot of attention going on the boss move. It is pretty big boss move just be like you know what? I don't care I'm gonNA keep playing spades and you know who's interviewed with that Field Yates Guy who took my chair Oh, it was. listed. So. I kind of liked it. I wanted to text Johnny. Go Yep. Thank you nice job. Good job everybody who plays spades in the middle of an interview on wall. Off. The local Washington blog or anything on ESPN. There were people walking behind me my cooking. He was like while they were asking questions he was signaling dealer talking about the card game. I don't know how those guys didn't just address it and be like, what are you doing man I'm trying to interview I. It really made me laugh and the thing was his answers were pretty coherent. But then at one point he goes, I, didn't hear that question. Would you ask again? Well no wonder. You didn't hear your plane pay playing cards in interview. Did come out later and say that he won that particular game. Able to do both. Pretty talented except an interview play at saint recruits. Scott Clark is making his decision tomorrow night at seven o'clock. A lot of people think it's going to be the cats probably Kentucky or north. Carolina. Be Big for the cats top ten player guy that Kentucky's recruited for a long time. I'm sort of hearing Kentucky folks feel good about it. Do we get a big Tom Cruise tomorrow night at seven o'clock I think. So I don't know the latest what's happened in the last couple of days but going back to the first time we've heard this guy's name. It's been all positive UK. He's one of the kids that. Called it his dream school, and hopefully fall through that over here that sometimes. But he's watched all these point guards come through in the Caldera. That's how who's grown up watching. He's been a lifelong UK fan. So I'm positive going into he's in the class of twenty, twenty two but there's some talk he might reclassify. I've actually heard UK would rather him stay because they think they're going to get another guy and twenty twenty one but they could get him if he stays in twenty, twenty, two kind of. Line of top five point guards. To these bids Kentucky for so long what what happened? Why was there a little? Schools just put time in I. Mean there was a little period. North. Carolina made a huge push in I think there was some worry but I I still think they're in good shape. What we think about the name, the fact that he spells his name S K, Y Y. Well, why why not? Lead, with him. I was asking for that. Didn't it? On a love it. It did love. Like I ask for that. That's my own fault for going to him and letting him do the Y is ready for you. He was ready for you to ask that if he does seem he was waiting for like he's got a joke stored in his head, he's just waiting. Wind as it. The moment. Goodness Gracious? The Washington football team has announced they're going to keep the name for another year. Did, they really said look we still don't know what we WANNA do. It'll take a long time to get them on the. Clothing and everything it'll take a while. So we're just GONNA do him football team for another year that just tells me their negotiations with that realtor that owns all those big names is going. He's been playing a little hardball with them. You may be right. I say keep it. Funny some some of the TV shows and websites for like on their. scoreboards like right football showed. That cowboys Slash Football Rato loves it. She made me order shirt. She wears a shirt that says football teams this football team on it it is kind of. Like I'm not GonNa lie to you like isn't it better? Shannon isn't football team better than just saying like tigers or something isn't that better to Washington football's I, mean, that's pretty much what they are. The Washington football's it'd be the pigskins. Actually I kind of. The football. They were Super Bowl pick remembering it. In, Houston I think Washington and those teams are combined to ten. Yeah. They started out strong and then not doing. So well, Redskins are in the division with the cowboys and the. Ball team excuse me my bad I. Apologize. They might win this. Football, team. Back not out a try. That's. Crazy insane I don't understand why they're bitching fitzpatrick to. Like he's got great numbers, even the ESPN twitter account was like Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick. Appreciation posts three and three. They're a game back from having a wild card to hasn't played. I mean, why wouldn't you leave him in? Like? I don't understand and it's not. He's not a manager three and three like he's got good numbers good and they were very close to be and I think they've lost two point five and one like why are you switching to now because he's not Sexy to the fans fitzpatrick is boring. He doesn't the goal to win of course and attract fans get everybody excited. But I mean, if they win people will go like it's not I mean. I just don't understand like I. Get you WanNa play to because he's the future. But like why not just try to make the playoffs this year I agree yup but he's not he's not the future is not not a sexy exciting player that they want to build around like this has been his whole career. Fitzpatrick we'll have a great year team. He just randomly sat with yelling right thank you and throw him aside talion I'd take him with the bears were five and one in our quarterbacks allstate. Five and one. You've already made a quarterback change. You're still five and it might change back I mean, like nobody's good and yet I don't know how we're five in one. You want to talk about a team makes no sense to me is good us. Yeah. But we are and I think this week we play somebody I can't remember who was we played beat this week we be six and one we're not even good who's next Jim. Jim What's up Jim. Hey what's going on doing this more? Good. First Time Longtown who? I have two questions basically. One the they're having big Lou madness and the blue white scrimmage. Coach cows going to do about the fans getting autographs from the players? Yeah. I don't think you're getting any autographs players. You're. Not Getting. You know. It's a shame because I, I you know I like that and I think it's good for interactions I just I don't think you're getting autographs this year I mean I think it's one of those things. I. Don't know that cal loved his players doing it anyway but with Kobe. I just don't think it's good. and. It's kind of ashamed. From the end of the year I'm sure will do these sidings. KS Bar wherever else. But I just think during the year, I just think it's not avenue. Question number two how did y'all ever come up with? We'll have some London. What was what's the skeptic on that? predates call so. My first day on the radio I went in and talk to build gentry and he said you need a theme song. What do you want and I had listened to where wolves of London walking into the show and I said, well, just let's just where was a London now and it's just stuck had make a change. Canada like now it's you know it is what it is. It's part of who we are and what could have been literally anything though it could've been could've been partying the USA. Always, crackling. Rosie might change to at some point I, love that song. But it ended up but it's perfect. Isn't it? I Love Party in the USA people. With us like. A matter of fact, this will happen in the next couple of weeks at Halloween these football games and stuff they'll play it and people will go. Oh, I thought you were about to come on the air like they associated with it is who he is. That's exactly right lawyers, guns and money for the Matt Jones podcast and the million dollar man theme for Fremont. Free And It is Halloween shut up I. DON'T WANNA listen to. Come. Back, Nicholas County. Tour and I'm GonNa make him laugh whether you likes it.

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Tuesday Things, Dunzo or Not Dunzo and the Big Ten West Demolition Derby

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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Tuesday Things, Dunzo or Not Dunzo and the Big Ten West Demolition Derby

"Welcome to the solid verbal on. Today's show is late game. Mario uh-huh cristobal really a thing is u._s._c. done without j._t. Daniels that much more to get started <music> welcome back to the sowed rebel boys and girls. I'm ty hildebrand that man over there is dan rubenstein and yes. You're listening to us bright and early on a tuesday morning. Dan so is this. Are we technically the meat on a solid verbal sandwich now between the recap and preview. I was gonna make the letdown. Look ahead sandwich joke so i don't want to disappoint people though because we the reason we're doing this show is because we feel that there is more to discuss during the college football season than just previewing games and recapping games so i want this to be a a headline deli meats of a show. There is more or meat to pick off the carcass of that tennessee bone. Oh my gosh what you're saying too too soon. Let's just we had a work to that tie work to that. If you're listening for the first time hello how are you don't forget to subscribe either on apple podcasts or google podcasts spotify stitcher tune in all the usual israel hotspots. Wherever you like listening to podcasts we will be with you all throughout the college football season and all throughout the calendar year really but since we've got games going on three shows shows a week we recap shows every sunday afternoon. We're doing this show now where we talk about what it all means which will drop every tuesday morning and then early thursday morning. You'll get the week to recap. That's going to be our schedule moving forward. Don't forget to find us out there on social media at solid verbal and also go to our website website at solid verbal dot com so today got a few topics that we want to discuss got a few games that we wanna play but before we go any further we should mention that oklahoma one. It's game on sunday evening by a forty nine to thirty one score over the houston cougars the big story of course was jalen hurts in his first game as an oklahoma sooner looked really sharp quarterback only missed three passes went twenty of twenty three had three passing touchdowns downs also had a bunch of rushing yards on the ground in three more touchdowns six in total again your final score here forty nine to thirty one as oklahoma gets off on the right foot. Yeah it was a fun game to watch just from an entertainment perspective both to see jalen hurts and how he was gonna fit into the oklahoma offense which it looked like he was ducking and running a little bit early on as he got more and more comfortable but he made some huge throws look more and more comfortable over the course of the game. Oklahoma ran ran the ball. I was impressed that that is what dear king looked like after having major surgery <hes> but houston has a ways to go defensively family something we talked about you know they score touchdowns later on to make the score seem a little closer than it actually was but <hes> early returns. I think very positive for oklahoma's offense <unk> as it's run by jalen hurts. He looked pretty comfortable by the end there. I don't know if he's got a little bit of baker mayfield or not but he definitely had a little bit of saquon john and a little bit of shady mccoy and with some of the cuts he was making a good run the ball he runs harder and more dangerously than either baker mayfield or cuyler murray which is both encouraging and also a little bit dangerous for him as well. It's man if he looks anywhere. We're near this during big twelve. Play sorry sorry big twelve defensive. Sorry my god yeah yeah. Dana holger sohn after the game said that obviously he is witnessed oklahoma's rise being so he was coach at west virginia last couple of years and this offense didn't look all that different to him which is i i think terrifying. If your another team in the big twelve team in playoff contention that oklahoma looks good this soon with a brand new starting quarterback so good on them the the big thing will be when it it is thirty seven thirty four. They're up three and they need to step on the gas somehow and he has to make tougher throws than he had to make against houston. That's that's the nextstep because that's what got him in trouble alabama when it was close and you had to fit balls into to the window that is there which sometimes is in a lot. I am curious to see what he looks like that but man early returns great so as for other topics on today's show dan. We want to take a look back in travel back in time if we could do better but do. Let's take a look at what went down in week one on thursday on friday on saturday. We've got a few things here that are spiked out. I think are of particular interest interest you dan yes okay so we i think first of all we need to figure out and yes. It's post not even post week one. We saw louisville notre dame to go but it's basically post week one and we're gonna play a thing called thing or not thing and we are going to play a game called thing or not a very creative very very literally named yeah. We didn't take a long time to really workshop title here but we have five things listed out and if my math serves it's one from each of the power conferences references. Yes only one played an f._c. Team of these five so i think we can glean some and the one team that did play f._c._s. team on here. I guess let's start start there. How about we start there. Iowa state yeah is what iowa state look like against northern iowa a thing and that and by that i mean worth monitoring moving forward against what we presume to be much tougher opponents than northern iowa right so iowa state needed triple overtime to get by northern iowa. That's a that's a problem right. That's i don't know what if it's a thing or not if but that's a problem that it was that close. It should not have been that close. What i i think is a thing that we do need to monitor is the extent to which being without david montgomery running back and butler wide receiver both are now in the n._f._l. The extent to which that's going to affect this offense we expected going into the year that it was gonna take a little bit of time for matt campbell and brock purdy to like suss this out and figure out all right. Who are the playmakers now on this team. The defense should should be pretty good but offensively where the playmakers gonna be that said the shot jones did catch fourteen balls in the gas so maybe he's maybe he's the new hakeem butlers smaller and different but proverbially maybe he is the new king butler goto yeah. It will take time to to figure this out. I think there will be some bumps in the road on offense but the defense should be good enough to hold down opponents. It's minor league thing on a scale of want to ten. Maybe like a four. I'd say <hes> i don't wanna lose track. I just think it's really hard to gauge how important it is or is not now oh after week one. I'm gonna say it's not a thing. I am going to give iowa state the benefit of the doubt especially with how they looked early on last season this was granted without brock purdy in the the ugly side hawk game offensively against iowa. I'm going to say not a thing because the track record of iowa state is a grower not necessarily ashore our we've seen decent enough team. Struggle with much lower teams level wise than i did against as iowa state did against northern iowa so i'm i'm gonna say not a thing but if this happens against another team that's clear that clearly shouldn't be on the level of iowa state and they've iowa next week but they have louisiana monroe monroe and baylor if they look bad against baylor at the end of the month yeah i'm. I'm pretty ready to write off iowa state big twelve contender erin. I'm at a four ten where you i'm at a two out of ten thing wise. Let's go to the a._c._c. yeah. This is one of the brighter spots that we call reference to here and and as for the question is is virginia as the clear a._c._c. coastal front runner a thing or not a thing again. I think it's a thing i have that as a seven out of ten thing yeah <hes> the answers that virginia offered up not just in week one <hes> against pit which i was on the record before the season being high on pets along season pitt can be fine. I think you like them a little bit more than i did. Georgia tech in <hes> full rebuild miami's offensive line. That's a terrible match against what i think is a pretty good virginia defense duke in its struggles north carolina. I think will be competitive. It is but i don't think they're on the level of virginia right now as it stands. I don't know how you can consider virginia anything less than the favorite to win the coastal. I know they're on the road against miami. Louisville should be a little bit better for whatever they look like <hes> against notre dame tonight. I'm just guessing it's not going to be great but maybe i'll be wrong north carolina's on the road and they looked scrappy but right now in terms of virginia answers on both sides of the ball that secondary perkins i. I don't know how they can be considered heard anything less. No they look. They were the front runner in my book in the beginning of the year before the wright played a game. Yes i think they're even more of a favourite now. After seeing how lousy virginia urging you tech looked <hes> there too many questions on that miami offense defense and obviously the defensive line are still very good <hes> but on offense now they've got a true freshman starting quarterback. It's gonna take some time to work things out there. In the knew manny diaz regime. I think they'll get there eventually but as as of now virginia believe it or not is the team that i think i have the most confidence in the coastal so for me. It's like nine out of ten. They are absolutely the front runner in the coastal yay yeah and virginia to both their credit and to their detriment is like they're pretty good. They're nothing they're not run away in any sort of sense but pretty good shrug drug is leaps and bounds better than what we've seen of the rest of the coastal. Oh yeah so my big question for them is because they've had it these past couple years do they have and you mentioned this with iowa state. Do they have a game changer at running back or wide receiver. Somebody outside of bryce perkins somebody outside of bryce perkins where a defense. I'm not even saying as far as gravitational player wise or a defense has to keep eyes on him every play no where he's at but do they have. I mean they had it in allama days. Chaos a key. Yes i forget now <hes> to a certain extent. I want to see it from somebody. Break out of this receiving core all right so we've made a lot of jokes about texas being back. Let's talk about wisconsin. Yes being back. We've got in bold here wisconsin back with a question mark behind it. What what is back mean in wisconsin sense back means you have to be clearly better than them in most if not all phases to beat them because otherwise wisconsin had been so well coached and players so well developed under paul chryst and that staff on both sides is the ball that anything short of essentially ohio state. You're gonna lose to wisconsin murray and that changed last year and early results early returns which i guess is my phrase of the day against u._s._f. Appears to be good. But how seriously should we take that on the road to wisconsin back well. This is a multilayer dancer. First off. Jonathan taylor tailback looked amazing always looked amazing he the new that's not a new thing. What was i think very. Encouraging was the fact that he was so useful out of the backfield. This is one of his more prominent showings as a receiver ever so that's good that gives him another weapon the offense as a whole. I thought much more balanced. That's what they're going for this year. They can achieve that level of balance that makes them much much better and not just a one trick pony. All that stuff on offense is gravy where i'm focusing my attention his defense just one hundred turned fifty seven yards allowed by. I think pretty good u._s._f. Team u._s._f. Averaged one point one yards per carry. They didn't cross midfield until until their final possession of the football game if they can get that defense in order then wisconsin's back to that point where they're only gonna lose. The teams are supposed to lose the two semi disagree. I re watched this game because i had only watched it in fits and starts when it actually happened live u._s._f. U._s._f. Finish the season giving up fifty seven forty one thirty five twenty seven thirty eight and then thirty eight in their bowl game sure they did not always scored more than twenty three points once they scored thirty six loss to houston and an offensive fireworks game so i don't think u._s._f. Is a great example of a team to judge wisconsin against rier. That's fair totally fair. I think u._s._f. Could be spiraling but against a team that is spiraling potentially if u._s._f. Is i was disappointed to watch the passing game from wisconsin. The two things that we need to sort of see as has wisconsin being back is the defense which i think came out really well yeah. They ran the ball quite well with jonathan taylor. He came out of the backfield really well everything that jack cohn through it seemed was underneath everything he didn't test this u._s._f. Secondary really at all successfully. I'm looking at the <hes>. The receiving long catches from receivers thirteen seventeen eight eleven sixteen twelve nine. This is a good receiving core for wisconsin relative tip to the rest of the big ten. This is basically under probably ohio state michigan penn state just in terms of receiving talent quintas safest back kendrick prior talented danny davis. I am not so sure that i can count on jack cohn to give us the best of what alex hornibrook offered offered not experience. No i've been quite serious where at a certain point alex hornibrook could get so much defensive attention attention because of the running game and jonathan taylor tailback that he was able to throw the ball down the seam or find something wide open intermediate or deeper and that what i don't know if that's the case with jack cohn. That's what i'm worried about that. They're not going to get that element and for that. I don't think wisconsin looks to be on the proper road to be back. Okay so wisconsin back scale of one to ten where you at four and a half four and a half ago six and a half okay let's go to l._s._u. Issue so while we joke about texas being back and maybe as a corollary of that wisconsin being back another joke that has quietly been sneaking up on us. Is this premise of a new l._s._u. Right you've heard rice a new and to be clear unless i my ruling is virginia thing iowa state not a thing thing wisconsin not a thing and i'm gonna go iowa state mostly not a thing virginia definitely thing and wisconsin eighth inning. Yes okay a new l._s._u. The question is is this a thing or not l._s._u. Destroyed georgia southern. Yes destroyed them joe borough as we like to call them on the show joe dirt look terrific. The defense gave up just ninety eight yards. All that stuff is great. Here is my concern the whole all new l._s._u. Thing. I don't know what that means. It's fine. It's got a it's got a ring to it. The definition of new l._s._u. is opening things up spreading the ball around to multiple receivers and we mentioned this on the recap show fourteen guys caught a pass and when you watch the game it was r._p._o. Stuff and joe borough was not pressured a ton time so a new l._s._u. Is not a ten out of ten but the attempt is there to do something different. I don't think all of the sudden it's going to be a the twenty one twenty game alabama. I still think there's probably a touchdown worse but i could see a situation which they score multiple touchdowns against alabama which has not not necessarily been the thing for quite some time if that's the measuring stick with l._s._u. Scoring multiple touchdowns and testing opposing defenses in new and creative ways. I think we have a new l._s._u. On our hands yes i'm going to only be five out of ten on this one. I'm seven and a half. I'm five out of ten like it's a new georgia tech. We know it's a new georgia tech for friday of reasons by sure until l._s._u. Proves otherwise until we actually see the newness on display display with results on the field. I feel like this is the thing we've heard for many years now and i remain skeptical what we've seen also l._s._u. Struggle ogle with much lesser teams not struggle in that they barely win or something like that but look inconsistent on offense. They looked like a machine for the first time in a long time time. They have a system so they have texas next week on the road so presumably you'll get answers in terms of a new l._s._u. You and america next week against a a- an opponent with comparable talent if not <hes> the same exact level of talent so i i'm i'm bullish on <hes> on l._s._u.'s offense because because they're able to recruit so much speed and so much talent in state that it's always just been a matter of what is our goal here. What is our identity here. How are we becoming more creative. You've and i think until this year it was. Let's cap creativity at like a six out of ten and i think that's going to be up significantly and the final thing being here by the way we're seven and a half right yeah thang thing i'm skeptical but okay i could be swayed final thing here before we move onto our favorite game of duns. Oh we're not done so <hes> is lake game mario cristobal thing or not a thing right so we had this. We had to sequence sequence late in the game. Obviously oregon had that game well within its grasp. They were up twenty one to six. They end up squandering the lead losing the game big game on saturday night against the auburn. Tigers is the way that mary cristobal handled that oregon team down the stretch stretch something to monitor moving forward wasn't a one off. It's one hundred percents something to monitor. It is one hundred percent of thing but i don't think it's a thing because of and i think it was pete famil- wrote this for yahoo where it's just like all the time out confusion and how do you lead a game for fifty nine minutes and fifty one seconds. I think they scored with nine. Seconds left to take the lead auburn did the thing that is <hes> disappointing to me with what organ looks like late game so we saw going into the fourth quarter a third and seven where they just lined up in the pistol and went straightforward that was very reminiscent of james franklin ricky ronnie against soho state last year in that big four and five. That's the good stuff yeah. That was the final play of a game for penn state. This was third and seven late in the third quarter so scenario barrio lies a little bit different but that seems like a play you run only when you are deeper into opponent territory and we're definitely going for them and that was not the case at all and then in the fourth quarter still out of the pistol not seeing results out of the pistol they get to a crucial fourth and one <hes> midfield and they do that thing with the like okay. We're going for it in my our just going to see if we can get them off. Sides and then leave like mario cristobal defended a lot of the clock management against auburn saying you know we're trying to be in a rhythm trying to be aggressive. You know that's the mentality that we wanna have is aggression and we want to you know s- keep our foot on the pedal foots our feet on the pedal. If that's the identity of that's the aggression you go for it on fourth down new. Do so with tempo that you just you have to send that message to your team that this is who we are. We are always trying to push the defense back and they shrink away from that moment and then we see in the fourth quarter on an enormous fourth and one john and yes it was tyler shuck in there the backup quarterback because justin herbert had to sit out. We saw the okay. Here's a moment they line up in the pistol and auburn knows the the left side of oregon's offensive line is probably the best left side of a line in the country. This is where they're going and i found the freeze frame of it every eyeball on the the auburn defense crash side a crash to that side yeah every single eyeball when you look at that freeze frame that the other side of the field field if if they call the play action situation was wide open for like a little bootleg pass or justin herbert keeping it in running it now every play every fourth and one play play as bad if it doesn't work in every fourth one play his great if it works. I understand that hindsight but again if you are sending the message we're an aggressive team. We are a foot on the pedal team and you call predictable plays and conservative plays in big moments then yes the late game. Mario label able will start to stick. That's where i think it comes from. I think his influence on their four-minute fourth quarter offense on their late game with the lead offense is is leading me to believe that a late game mario label makes sense so right now until proven otherwise because we saw it with stanford last year another the game with all sorts of crazy elements that all need to happen for them to lose happened same thing against auburn. It's worrisome so yes right now to me a a thing yeah i i agree with you that while frustrating the sequence where they called two consecutive timeouts is probably being exaggerated it. Yes probably being exaggerated now. They need to know the rule next time they need to know that they can't send her back out there right. Something similar goes down at some point in the future but i don't at all blame them for calling a time out before the play. You presumably want one time out and not both but they needed to talk about at that because it was such a big play. I was surprised that they went with such predictable play as well and i think that's probably the better point the thing about the late game james franklin bug when you get it. You know it like it's like food poisoning though denying no doubt that when you get it you've got it and you just need to see more of a body of work in that respect before. I think you commit to labeling somebody. James franklin is very experienced in this realm it sticks. That's why i've drafted that to my fantasy things rosser late-game. James franklin makes two appearances a year without fail. Yeah hopefully early in the case of mario cristobal. That won't happen again. Moving forward this was a big national stage yeah huge game and it didn't work out for him but the i don't think it's the thing i really do okay. I'm gonna go to out of ten. You think it is just a cocktail of the drop. Pass the fumble. You know all these opportunities for oregon to really separate themselves doesn't come together just like against stanford. You think it is just just dumb dumb bad luck. I think there's a lot of bad luck involved. Yeah okay yeah what i i don't. I don't fault the guy however predictable going to the left side of the line. They don't fault the guy right into his strength. Absolutely even the announcers said it her. I said it watch for run here on the left hand side right. They tried it. It didn't work auburn made the play so i don't. I don't wanna crucify too much for trying to play into what is a perceived strength yeah. I i mean i agree it was was the play calling was in a weird place. I don't know how much we can put it on. Mario receivers recovered but oregon again. You can't say we're doing things to be aggressive and then try not try to manufacture wheel routes or anything creative like auburn was able to do with a true freshman quarterback to win the game. That's that's the big problem to me is shrinking to the moment. So where are you at scale one to ten. I think this is a solid seven all right. I'm at a two okay. Okay we disagree. Let's move on. Let's get to our fun little game which we like to call done zone or not done so where does that sound from obviously laguna beach the real orange county that is kristen cavalieri who is married into football royalty as the wife of jay cutler yes yup. I'm going to add a layer to duns. Oh okay okay so. This is a very simple game. We decide whether or not this item that name is done so so not done zo or and you only get to use it once out of these three thai k. d. h. P. does oh holding pattern tons a holding pattern de h._p. H._p. Okay so you get one though the i'm one done so what one not done so one dunn's a holding pattern okay with this. Where would you like to start. Let's start with tennessee tennessee the volunteers they lost to georgia state at home week one. This was a year that many tennessee fans were excited about seemed seemed as if they were building towards something yeah week one did not go so well as tennessee does not done so. Are you putting them in your h._p. I have them as done so officials. That's bold. It's bold okay. The florida game is is in gainesville followed by a bye week in georgia mississippi state alabama. This is all before and they have b._y._u. In chattanooga before where they can sort of at least look competent and but this is all before south carolina team u._a._b. South carolina. I think we're a little bit more down on after we one button week one kentucky team. That is the different i would say. I'm assuming that is different. Vanderbilt that does not seem super promising so on its face a average tennessee hennessy team should win one two three four five six seven games right if if they ascend to competent after watching them against georgia state a to intend team last year. I don't know if i see that ascension happening. I think they max out at five five games and as a tennessee team not going to a bowl again that to me spells dunn's oh okay <hes> the line gave up four point six yards per carry to georgia state <hes>. That's a problem agree. That's a problem against georgia state. They're going to be much better. Rushing teams much better offensive lines. That tennessee is going to have to play in the very near future given that s._e._c. schedule. That's a problem on the defense also made some really basic mistakes and once that don't just reflect on the players but also the coaching staff guys were out of position didn't know where they were supposed to be. Some of them were upperclassmen who should know better backbreaking turnovers that reflects on on the coaching staff in in the turnover wien jaguar tana may have had one of his worst games yeah. He was not good news starter no no. He's been around the block yeah. I think this all builds to a a monstrous game this week against b._y._u. If they don't get off the schneide this week and knockoff b._y._u. They're in trouble so i'm not ready to commit to them being done so yet because i still believe that this team has a ton of talent i know they played hard at the end of last year. I'm going to say not done so as of now but talk to me in a week after after that b._y._u. Game they lose two in a row definitely done. Zo feels done a holding pattern to me them <hes> no not yet not ready to put them in a holding pattern yet so the thing to like about tennessee right now is inexperienced quarterback with a with an offensive coordinator are known to get things right wherever he has offensive g._m. Chain jim chaney. I like his receiving core. John jennings and dominic would anderson the tight end. John jennings finals look pretty good. He did look pretty good. The recruiting i think has been good enough on defense though even though they're working to get away from full full on bad which would they which is what they were last year. They've recruited well enough. It's what henry to oto. Toa forget his sure yep nine. Oh you mean <hes> he. He starts as a freshman at linebacker and shows out. I think there are enough pieces that are going to get it together. I just worry with this schedule and what getting to to a bowl with the schedule entails that that has done so all right u._s._c. Yes dunn's not done so we ask the question not because they won on over fresno state but because they lost j._t. Daniels when we did our sunday show he was at the time just going to get an m._r._i. Since then it's been revealed old he has lost for the season torn a._c._l. And meniscus that means keaton slow vis a true freshman three star out of scottsdale arizona is going to be of new starting quarterback interestingly enough coached by offensive coordinator and hall of fame n._f._l. Quarterback kurt warner back in high school interestingly enough enough. I am done zo on u._s._a. Alonzo i am full on done so they had fresno last week but coming up they get stanford b._y._u. B._y._u. apparently plays everybody this year washington and then a bi week before notre dame traveling to notre dame that is not it's easy slate for freshman quarterback. We already know that. Klay hilton is on thin ice. I just don't think this is the optimal the mole result at this point in the season after losing your star quarterback <hes> i am not feeling very optimistic about the trojan unfortunately because of slow specifically or is there a bigger reason while it's slow this in addition to all the reasons we define going into the season right so like are they going to get a complimentary running game in order u._s._c. recruits running backs like they grow on trees <hes> so much talent at the running back position it just pretty well to close out the game against ran pretty well to close out the game but i need to see more of it. This has been an area where they just haven't developed hoped running backs to the extent that they should receiving corps should be fine provided slow can get the ball to him but what is what's this offense. Gonna look like now that he he now. They've got a brand new true freshman coming in there. I'm just not sure and then on the offensive line side of things <hes> the offensive line has not done u._s._c. quarterbacks many any favors over the last couple seasons either. I thought they looked pretty good against fresno now. The ball was coming out pretty quickly which is a good way to mitigate any lingering issues there but with view s._e._o. Looking pretty strong along both lines granted fresno for better or worse with the talent they have and what we say every year obviously they recruited so well all other than washington and notre dame both on the road. I believe i'm a little less worried about utah. I think you can win ugly against utah in this offense. It's their defense line. You kidding me neuro. You can win ugly and the reason why it's ugly as utah's defensive line okay i think i think you can win that game thirteen ten then in l._a. So we have a stanford team. We don't know the status of k. J. castillo right a b._y._u. Team that may be okay but certainly didn't look it against utah <hes> an arizona team defensively you can you can do things against us. Wildcat team not crazy about colorado's defense. It's oregon is november so that's at least time if oregon is the best or one of the best teams in the north which anticipate they still are. There's at least time and you get that in l._a. Arizona's states on the road cows on the road u._c._l._a. To finish to they're not beating oregon. They are not beating oregon even if they don't beat oregon even if they lose to washington notre dame and oregon still nine and three year they are not going on three. They're not going to say not done so oh but i'm gonna say not done so in that if we're if it's specifically related to j t daniels and how the move to keep an slow vis affects things okay i i don't think in having only watched however many passes keaton slava's through six or seven. I don't think that there's an appreciable drop off with the talent around him if he's getting the ball out quickly if he's not making incredibly difficult throws. I don't think it is a huge game changer in terms of sealing well. Here's the thing graham harrell what's his lineage is arad yeah. He's an air raid guy. He played at texas tech where they've been very good at taking three star dr quarterbacks in making them blow up statistically yeah. He was one of them in the same deal yeah. He was one of them in the same deal at north texas with mason fine so this is something that he's got had experience with an. I hope it works out for keen slava's. I'm just not there. I don't know what is considered a u._s._c. sense but seven one in five feels about right to me is it because of slow it is due in no small part to slow this okay so i'm going to say not done so this move does not kill u._s._c. I'm done zone zone u._s._c. Okay final item finally here. Florida state fair to state lost because of a second half collapse <hes>. Where are we at on florida state dan. Are we done so or not done zone this team why i guess i haven't used my holding pattern right so i'm in a holding pattern with our to state. I think this is a year in which they are. I'm going to show difficulties against good teams which i think boise state probably is at least pretty good and they should be able to use those big plays on offense to help mitigate whether it's with screens or fades or whatever crossing routes to mitigate still huge work in progress offensive line but the great news is their schedule is such that have louisiana monroe virginia which can be very tough rebuilding louisville uh-huh n._c. State will be tough but outside of that syracuse is at least at home and we saw some issues with syracuse offensively wake forest on the road. I think it's going to be shootout e but they should be able to get by that defense. I think i feel good things. That wake is not boise state. Miami looks to be on even on offense boston in college. They beat last year alabama state at florida that i think they are going to get to a point where they're at least dangerous so that to me when you feel dangerous andress that feels like it at the very least is a holding pattern. You know air defensively. I think the linebackers can only get better if i'm going to be optimistic nick and i just don't see a lot of quarterbacks with experience outside of trevor lawrence on the schedule bryce perkins trevor lawrence and outside of that whom i truly scared of quarterback wise to do what i mean true freshman hank bach meyer was able to do not a lot look. They weren't great offense in the second half right a lot. A lot of great plays the first half what a big chunk plays a lot of explosion. I think you have to like what you saw. Their second half boise state was able to shut them down on the defense couldn't get off the field in the second half in particular <hes> in the game as a whole boise had forty minutes of possession mon- hot day florida state was a team that we're down okay one week one. I don't want overreacted. Thus because boise's probably attend when team this season <hes> they're very good if they look doc like what they showed on on saturday afternoon yeah absolutely absolutely hank bachmar look good. There was a lot to like on that boise side so don't underestimate how good the broncos are what i would say though i guess to the counterpoint here and you're right to point out that there isn't a whole lot of quarterback experience coming back and you look at the schedule well. It's you can very easily find path through for florida state that being said it's also not that difficult to look at it with more of a skeptical ally and come up with another five and seven season like let's see us. Let's see how they look in two weeks on the road at u._v._a. Before we push the panic button here i'm with you. I don't wanna go done zoar. We're not done so. I think a holding pattern is appropriate. <hes> this is a really good boise state team. The situation was not conducive. Everyone was a little uncomfortable given moved it around from a different venue and then a new time and it was hot and humid and all that stuff so let's give it a few weeks before we make a final judgment on this one. <hes> first-half lord state look pretty good second half florida state needs to do better and and certainly needs to get off the field from a defensive standpoint so they're my holding pattern here florida state could be and i know there are issues on the offensive line and others issues in the secondary and others open-field tackling issues but they could certainly be a team where with what i still think is a good defensive coordinator. I i know they have a good offense coordinator where it's just a week one thing we were like oh. This was their all second half. I i think there are moments like that. If they go back and watch the film i could not speak specifically to that because i have not seen the coaches camera but i think they could be a prime candidate for we've just too much skill talent with all a._c._c. level skill talent. I think there's just too much there to think they're just done after who as you said attend and windisch okay we all right dan and finally yes congratulations skippy. You've got mail. You've got doc mail on the solid verbal. One of the reasons were doing this. Dang show is because we don't get as much of a chance as we would like during during the season to answer questions about college football that come to us from the ver- baller who'd at large so we've carved out a little bit of time here at the end for one one college football question dan. What are we got yeah so this comes to us from tyler is the big ten west still is wide open as once thought hotson iowa's seemed to clearly play better than nebraska who struggled with south alabama at times minnesota struggled with south dakota state at times northwestern stanford and looking kind of putrid word on offense and purdue loses nevada. I know it's just one week says tyler but it looked like some separation to me separation in saturday in week one. That's i think that's what he's saying. Every week is separation center for being honest yes i. It's still wide open been but i agree that it's not quite as wide open. I was very underwhelmed but what we saw from northwestern. I expected more yeah at the quarterback position. We did not see that donzel not done so yet. Okay okay still very early. Stanford still pretty good team but i was underwhelmed by what we saw at the quarterback position there that is that is absolutely concerning. He is right to point out that wisconsin and iowa clearly separated themselves in week one. I think nebraska has room to grow on that ready to give up on a brassica being in that lead pack so for me. Those are the three teams. I picked iowa preseason as my team coming out of the west but i i think right now. If i'm looking at what we saw in week one i'm squarely in the camp of either iowa wisconsin or nebraska may be as dark horse. I'm content to write off. I'm very curious to see what happens with minnesota minnesota's another team that i think led us down a bit in week. One can i let you can. I give you a spoiler please. They're not going to be in the top group for the big ten. I don't think they will either yeah. I don't think they will either but they've also been a trendy pick. Tra- zuma because the west does feel will very wide open. They've always been questions about purdue. Purdue purdue should not be in the running for this. I wrote them off pretty much from the get-go and illinois. Hey illinois look pretty good breaking peter's but i'm not ready to put them in that lead pack yet for me. It's those three teams iowa wisconsin and nebraska. I have illinois at top up the race right now. You win forty two three over a mac team. I don't think anything has changed after week one for me. I think i'm with you but i think my lead pack kusc squarely just iowa and wisconsin right now. I think they have more answers more places the nebraska purdue i've always been skeptical of you know they jump up for one week season now. It seems <hes> minnesota to me has questions in terms of separating themselves. Offensively illinois is not going to have it all season long and northwestern. I think i'm not writing them off but with how they looked at quarterback on offense against stanford which i think is a pretty good defense. I know you are sort of more mixed on stanford's defense but with how little they could find in the way of consistent drives down the field. I just don't think that's good enough right now to overcome what iowa and wisconsin should also have on defense now so i don't have a huge. The only big change is to me. I think i'm writing off off northwestern yeah more than i am right now. I'm inching dangerously close to going denzil northwestern because here's the thing one hundred johnson onto transfers up from clemson. Five star kid a lot of talent. It's fine. It's fine in his first game against a good opponent stanford furred for him not to look optimal hewlett real bad. He looked real bad in that football game and really to the extent dan where it it didn't feel all that different from northwestern teams. We've seen in the past. I was under the impression. This is going to be a new northwestern because of his presence there right and end. Maybe he's not ready. Maybe game plan right. There could be a number of factors as to why we didn't see that but to only score seven points that is not good enough <music>. I'm inching very close to get into that denzo stage. I always worry when two plus years into somebody's career were still talking about a recruiting ranking yeah well sure and obviously he doesn't start and doesn't really play significant time clemson but we have well. We don't have a body of work but we have a body of work on north western's offense these past few years as being decidedly below average and being led by efficiency at spots and their defense defense and if if it's hundred johnston not being able to do things are not being allowed to do things results wise. I'm not sure what difference it makes aches and so the fact that you right now we're talking about is recruiting ranking to me as worrisome and i don't know the other thing is that hunter johnson was pulled pulled for ineffectiveness an in his place entered one t._j. Green well t._j. Green hurt his foot. He might be out for the year so suddenly a lot. More pressure is gonna fall on hunter johnson six out of seventeen throwing with two interceptions a q._b._r. Mind you of four point two <hes> against the stanford cardinal. That's not going to be good enough if we want. Northwestern be legit contender for the big ten west or quite frankly -able through through october. These are the defenses the notable defenses that northwestern is facing michigan state wisconsin on the road ohio ohio state and iowa and they do. I think they <hes> they host or they go to nebraska. Which at the very least nebraska should score gore some on northwestern which means northwestern needs to score some on nebraska and that is what those defenses paired with needing points against nebraska raskin lincoln. I'm pretty worried about north western so i've i've taken them out of the top pack of the big ten well. He's taking this question and turned it into a dunk on north western answer sure i'm comfortable to dunk on. Don't want it on them but i feel like it's warranted. Yeah looks like yeah t._j. Green needs foot surgery looks like it could be. The end of the season at sucks sucks all right well. Thank you one and offer tuning in. We'll be back in two days time on thursday morning gonna in a preview all the week to action. I have been stirring at night trying to come up with a window of opportunity who going to be an interesting week for that. Gonna would be an interesting week for games. Did you see any of the week two lines. The early lines a couple of yeah okay so the big ones to sort sort of were not previewing games right now but just keep this in mind going into our preview show michigan favored by twenty two and a half that came down by twenty three over army <hes> the tech sanam uh-huh game. I believe is that's the afternoon right yep. It opened at nineteen and a half. I'm sitting down to eighteen and a half so money coming into clemson a little bit and then texas l._s._u. L._s._u. It opened it for up to four and a half l._s._u. Favored on the road in austin on that note for that go good friend. Dan rubenstein four myself ty hildebrand. Hey hey thanks for tuning in earlier in the week than usual catch. Y'all pretty soon in the meantime. Stay solid case the.

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10/28/2020 - HOUR 2 - Dodgers, Trevor Lawrence

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10/28/2020 - HOUR 2 - Dodgers, Trevor Lawrence

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It's nice to be say a lot of celebrating this in twenty twenty senior. Some young people are going to go out and set off fireworks. Let's not forget. It was just. Wanted Championship in thirty two years. So it's OK media don't overreact. It's. Graduates. Story of the day is the dodgers won in the Tampa rays that are really dumb thing with analytics but You know I will say this though it was interesting I was talking to an executive, the other day, and the executive showed me some ratings that the dodgers ratings in Los, Angeles on radio or four times higher than the Lakers and I thought to myself. That is strange. It is a Laker town Lebron is a star. Why would that be town put their arms around this team Lebron an ad, the passing the tragic passing of Kobe Bryant I would think this would be a gigantic Audrey Laker year and the dodgers you know I mean they're very very popular. But why would the dodgers ratings before to five times higher on radio than the Lakers and then it hit me last night. Because in Los Angeles, you've had to live with this team. This is there what fourth trip to the world's third trip to the world series in four years you've grown up with Clayton Kershaw and he struggled and you've watched how emotional it is, and that's the great thing about baseball you go to a minor league even the greatest stars fail seventy percent of the times and it's visceral emotional and the city. has embrace this team and has gone through the ups and downs that is not to discount what the Lakers did but hiring Lebron ad as mercenaries to come in swoop to the city. Win a championship doesn't quite feel the same. People in Los Angeles have lived with the dodgers and when you're part of a family, you see your kids cry and you see him get a d. and you see people fail and you see people get fired and you see the disappointment of it. And all that building and building and the dodgers built this team. The right way that is not to say, they don't have money, but they used sparingly and strategically get Mochi bats too often the New York Yankees just go buy a player to solve a problem. The dodgers never did that they built their play their team through the farm system. They found occasional guys like Mac Muncie on the scrapheap and then they would smartly attain mookie betts not because he really solved a problem it's because how in God's Green Earth is the best athlete in the sport available on the market he was they swooped in and took him. Two years ago, Cory seager got hurt and they brought in Manny Machado but they did not sign him long-term. They did not. They developed cody bellinger. They said, we don't need to pay for this. It's not part of our long-term plan. Seger is hurt. It is a short term issue will get much auto for now. Bats was not brought here to solve a problem, you get to the world series you don't have any he was bizarrely available, and because they have developed such a beautiful farm system, they were allowed to give a couple of players up to the red sox who see themselves as rebuilding to a degree and they get monkey bets but the reason the dodgers right now are more popular in Los. Angeles it's not about the politics Oh for God's sakes folks the lowest ratings were hockey. It's not a political sport. It's not about that. It's because you lived through the dodgers pain they were family it's not mercenaries it was about everybody and you watched their failure I mean, let's put it in context losing the world series is not failure for most teams. But when you live through something, it's family. And it feels so much more special last night than hiring superstars who by the way I love Lebron I love eighty, but it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't feel the same buying championships. That's not what the dodgers did. That's not what they did. They did it the right way. And the reason I bring Joel Klatt on now is because it's the right time to teach my young friend about the INS and outs the ebbs and flows the peaks and valleys of college football and Joel. Klatt is now joining us for the record, a former minor league baseball player of some renown who offered out very much a failure in the baseball, but baseball is a sport built on the ability to overcome failure. That is true and it's true and the dodgers ratings in this town are enormous because we have an I say we this city has lived through seeing Kershaw unravel and they love Kershaw I don't disagree with that. I. Think that's why you're ratings are so big. The fans have lived through your failures year after year after year, and it's like you're like family to them. I was going to be your like drunk uncle getting. Report card I absolutely love it by the way I. Didn't really think much about this all weekend but you're near upset of the week was pit. Over Notre leaving off with that listen. Yes. Give you. That was that was rough and by the white pit did exactly what I said they were GonNa do. Run Defense and it didn't work at all. So let's just address that first Notre Dame. Yeah. The week before they had struggled against Louisville. But I Tony Dungy brought something on the broadcast. He said listen they wanted to work on their passing game. It was windier than they thought. Yeah and so in the middle of the Game Against Louisville Notre Dame how to go okay we backtrack we got we can't do it and I thought Dungy brought up a great point. I think Notre Dame to me is probably the fourth or fifth best team in the country I have them number four right now just ahead of Georgia because of low sag gamed. Alabama is. kind of behind just from a talent perspective those teams at the top in we get that I do think when I watch them now, and I went back and I and I watched that game on on game tape one pit was really struggling personnel wise. They got their quarterback was out so on and so forth. Now having said that Notre Dame is really big Bay a key spots you've got safety that's enormous their tight ends or big. They've got big bodies that allow them to do really cool stuff offensively I think the limiting factor right now is probably Ian Book. If. You just have to have him sit there and drop back and throw the football which they're going to have to do at some point. You know they got Clemson next week not this week next week. Is he going to be able to do that and I think the questions remain for Notre Dame on that but this a really good team. Yeah. Really good five in the country certainly. Yeah and I actually think. I actually think they match up. Okay. With clemson parts of them to your point I do think Notre Dame can lean on your little bit. Your and Clemson hasn't faced that kind of physical team this year Uconn they lean on U. Notre Dame can win ugly. They won't be Clemson but there is you can ugly up games and I think Notre Dame is built to do that against clemes. There is an element to Clemson though that there. So veteran, they're so good. I think they're board. Right. I. Think every I think they're bored out of their mind just waiting like like Dr Butler and three hundred you and like they're just like licking their chops for an opponent that can actually test them and they thought they were going to get that. Miami and they walked out there and just Bam just crushed Miami. Something tells me that we're in for a game like that against Notre Dame? Like like Clemson like they can't wait to be tested finally. And I think clemson might roll Notre Dame. But that's that's that's a week. Okay. You Gus Jenny Taff Michigan State at Michigan. So now you and I if I recall are both on the see I've always had this theory about Michigan football it's not Ohio state. It's not Alabama it's not no. There's like five programs in the country and I think actually USC used to be one. They're not any more than not as committed as I thought they were it is Oklahoma it is Alabama. It is Ohio state boy. It gets real after that they're totally committed to football. And then there's about eight teams of which Michigan falls in historically there really good but Ohio state. Is More committed. They'll fire coaches more quickly Brady hoke wouldn't have lasted a four game losing streak and I think harbaugh given that there are a nine and a half when program to attend program and he's right on track and I think he's done a very good job. I'll go a step further. He has done a good job and listen you know he's he's going to draw the line share the criticism because there was so much focus on Jim and and the antics and the pants, and although he changed to blue, which is interesting right? So it's changed things up. Here's one thing to to really understand about Jim Harbaugh. He's just now. Getting, and this adjustment has been a little bit late. If it comes to fruition watch out because. In, college football, you can't win at the top end unless you can score thirty five points against a really good team. You just can't. That's a sport. That's the sport now right and Bama has had to adjust and we've talked about it. Right? Nick Saban has had to just offensively thirty five, forty points in big Games Ryan Day goes to Ohio State. Guess what you have to do against Ohio state. Now, you can't beat them with Don Brown's defense. You can't just out defense them and tough them and win the game. They came close a few years ago remember and they had that overtime game. But then what happened Ryan Day steps foot in Columbus Ohio and guess what happens to that offense goes through the roof. Now, what do you have to do to beat Ohio State? If you're if you're Michigan Score, you've gotta be able to score and they haven't been able to even come close to the offense of efficiency and what I saw last week from Michigan was the was the corner being offensive Joe Milton. Their quarterback is incredibly talented guy. He's he's huge. First of all he's got a quick release. One of the strongest arms that I've seen in college football in the last four five years stronger than Josh Allen or even Herbert. Throws absolute. Lasers can run it pretty well, and here's the other part. They haven't gone pure spread like they tried to do last year was shape Patterson and just run those like soft. Schemes in the run, you know what they did in the run game they went back to what harbaugh does. Well, which was pull guards pull tackles, run power oriented schemes, and it all has to stem from number forty two Ben. Mason, you're all Joe why are you bringing been mason? Let me tell you why because Ben Mason was a guy who was a full back under the old offense last year Gaddis comes into being spread coordinator. So he's got to go defensive tackle. So we played defensive tackle last year and. This year they're like, you know what let's out of the shotgun go back and be a more power power oriented run game. So Ben Mason's back on offense they're lining them up all over the place he had several key blocks on the big runs and they're back to get that downhill. So now all of a sudden you've got the power oriented running game a quarterback that can throw it, and still a defense that I think can can be efficient and certainly rush to quarterback. This may be Jim Harbaugh's Best Michigan team. I'm not saying they'll beat Ohio state. I'm just saying. I'm bullish on Michigan after watching them last night. So I'M GONNA throw theory you well boy. So I was I was listening to very smart guys on that. Show the Prophet Marcus Lemonis. Yeah very smart. Yeah. Camping. World Very smart show and he was talking to CNBC, one of their financial guys and he was talking about how he is watching people change in America. They want nature more because of covid. And Kovic, some of this stuff is going to change how we act in America. This is not a temporary thing much of this will stay, and even if vaccines come out, he said we are seeing over the last with all the stress and the ability to work remotely in. Virtually okay. and. This is my point. If cove is going to be here for a couple years. The. NBA. Hockey baseball and the NFL have shown an ability because billionaire owners. To handle it, mean God. Until last night, we didn't have a baseball player have Kovin for months right NBA never had one NHL didn't have one but on a college level, it's different you even at Ohio state, you do not have seven million dollars a year for covid. What am I getting to? If, Marcus, La-, Mona's right and many of the business leaders in America say get used to it. This is going to be around till twenty, twenty, three, twenty, twenty, four at some level. It Makes College sports less attractive Ryan Day Lincoln Riley. Do you want to go through this year. Do you want it? I thought I was watching it this weekend and I said. You know it's weird how a world changes in I'm going to be at this job forever, and then you wake up one morning ago. This is not really the world I want. COVID is so difficult for even big financial institutions that Lincoln, Riley and Ryan Day say. I go to the NFL I could see that I think the Ohio state and Oklahoma could have their coaches cherry-picked in the next three months. I will tell you this for guys that that got into this profession because they love the sport I love to develop players they love the locker room they love the team aspect football, they love football. Every coach that I talked to now throughout the country as told me that they're spending maybe ten percent of their time on football. Now, that's not to say bad, but covert is taking A. Huge chunk of their time. Then they're also worried about the mental health of their players, the the social justice aspect. Years. Old In our country with their players and the coaches are saying listen it's just different right? It's not it's not better. It's not worse. It's just different. So if you did get into this based on the expectation that you wanted to be a football coach and develop football players and build football character. College is different. Now now, I'm not suggesting that these guys. Will or should leave I am agreeing that it is different and there is going to be a dynamic shift in how college coaches are going to have to handle their organizations versus what a head football coach in the National Football League would have to change. Now you bring those guys up. Here's why I think that that's so interesting if you're the New York jets and you're trying to woo Trevor Lawrence out of college football i. Come on. Let's go like don't stick around in college right? You don't flex your muscle in terms of your leverage come to the jets wouldn't one of those guys be attracted you I think an Trevor Lawrence said yesterday I'm not sure if GONNA go to the NFL it's like sure would be hard to turn it down. If I got Lincoln Riley I would say though like that comments going to get a lot of run today and Fans out there just give it its proper context because he was asked a question about the future and he gave an answer that that an athlete should give, which is hail worry about that at a later date. He didn't say I'm willing to go back to Clemson, try he basically gave a big vague answer which mature adults are going to do when ask a specific question about their future and that's why I didn't lead with it today. Good good job good job by the way I think the jets might be a better location than people realize boy why say Oh, boy let me say it's better than the bengals. It's better than Joe Borough was going to with the Bengals I. Think Joe Burrows Made Cincinnati way more attract really with one win interesting take let me tell you why the jets are better than Cincinnati Bengals as a destination for Trevor Lawrence versus what Joe Borough had to deal with with the bengals all right is because the bengals hadn't one shoot anything in boroughs whole life have they won a playoff game in his lifetime probably wasn't alive in late eighties was he? No No. These kids are now wasn't alive until I came to Fox there. There you go. Came came to the West Coast. So. All I'm saying is that was the same ownership group. They are historically cheap the bengals art like that organization had Ha- has had the same problems at nagging them forever whereas the jets I don't think Joe Douglas fits that mold Joe Douglas they're. Won? Three. superbowls. Yeah. They've got a ton of picks. Yeah. If they deal Darnold, they're GONNA get I why will they get a first jewel? Here's why they'll get a I is because you've got really good organizations with aging quarterbacks at the back end of the first round that would love to have Sam Darnold love to have Sam. darnold. Code happens if the IF THE COLTS WANNA move off the steelers are going to back soon, the Patriots are in that boat the New Orleans saints are in that boat. The Falcons may be in that boat and they're not even in the back into the first round. But if they deal, Matt, Ryan may be darnold as a ticket. They're all I'm saying is that I think that the jets have ammunition, they have the GM they they've got a great left tackle that they just drafted and and couldn't Williams, despite the trade rumors is a very good young emerging defensive line I just think this narrative the jets are terrible this year and we understand that what they have. They have the most money under the cap this off season so I I'm just saying like this narrative that Lawrence is going. To somehow force his way out of New York I think is overblown I. Think it's media driven I think Lawrence might look at the jets and say that's actually an attractive spot finally to is debut you watch them a lot of Alabama. I like I thought he was the best prospect I could be wrong. I do think his injuries bring him down as a prospect I don't worry too much about size i. think he's got some breeze. He's accurate. He's got an leadership qualities. He's a smart kid. I think he succeeds in Miami will what will concern you over the next month with two as start if you see something I would say just physical ailments you know like if he can stay healthy I think this'll be quality time for him to go develop by all and I've talked with some people he's been doing great and practice great and Bracco you've got that source yes and the other part of this is this is kind of a no lose for the dolphins. Let me tell you why you know where they're at. They're rebuilding a one hundred percent. Yeah. It doesn't really pay dividends for them to go to the play offs with Fitzpatrick. It just doesn't right because then there's still like, okay. Well, when are we moving on right whereas if it comes in and goes to the playoff, you throw it huge parade near like we did it. We've found him. If you don't, it's still find because he's coming off of injury. He's learning. We're developing. We're still building the this is kind of a no lose. At first I was like, why did they make this decision but when you really look at it, this is a no lose for the dolphins. It really is because if if it doesn't go well, he's developing. If it goes great, we can throw a party and you don't have to deal with the question bleeding into the off season fitzpatrick were take you to the playoffs. I'm not even GONNA. Ask for a near upset I on the bench this I know no near upset this week Michigan beat Michigan will beat the parties, the Spartans Sparty me maybe and that gave may be closer than the experts thing. 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So the question becomes this to me feels like a big this is a fascinating game like the raiders here I think we've undervalued them because of last week Tampa Kovic stuff we don't know what they were going through internally were. overvaluing over evaluating Cleveland a team that two weeks ago could not compete against Pittsburgh? Yeah. Their teams we really don't know what they are I. I liked the raiders getting a field goal here. This is a this is a gay right now they're feeling themselves in Cleveland they beat Cincinnati they struggled to beat the bengals. If I told you, there's a team in the NFL? They needed great play in the fourth to beat Cincinnati the week before they were humiliated by Pittsburgh. Does that sound like a great team that's Cleveland. And now you've got a raiders team that. The covid situation we just think now they're bad. They beat Kansas City a couple of weeks ago as the blazing. I think the raiders a very interesting week. I think I always look into blazing five. Who Will we undervaluing today like right now we're overvaluing the niners because they look on the world's best football team against the Rams and New England but they were much more desperate against the rams in New England mass and they have a lot more injury and Seattle had bad fourth quarter against Arizona. So a lot of people are. Selling Seattle stock and it's like no Seattle's back home they're probably going to be. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff we see were overvaluing certain teams in the League. I. THINK WE'RE A little overvaluing Cleveland morning and I picked him as a playoff team and I think we're undervaluing a little Seattle because of that bad fourth quarter they were actually controlling Arizona for three and a half hours joy with the news. The news this is the third line news sponsored by Mercedes bets the best or nothing to. With time Oh so exciting. Very exciting dolphins that their first real look at to this weekend. When he gets his first start Ryan Fitzpatrick did not hide his disappointment when he got benched for the rookie but Brian Flora's believes the culture of the team is built to handle the change. I think the guys rally around each other I think they support one another. Team effort. Again it won't be just to vote in the to have to do as part as far as. Communication getting US lined up. You know making good decisions were asking of Him we would asking one. The dolphins trending in the right direction. And they've kind of always been well at least for the last ten years or so this is kind of like middle the road team nor really trust them. They're not bad. They're not exactly what we don't trust them but they're not they're always they always have good players right? Well, I wanted to take a look at what I've already lived through, but just put it in perspective of what what the dolphins have gone through at the quarterback position. It's pretty dramatic. They've had twenty one different starting quarterbacks start at least one game since two thousand. The most starts in that span was Ryan Tannehill with eight twenty one since the year two thousand. Merino, went one, forty, seven, ninety, three in seventeen seasons with the dolphins when eight and ten in the playoffs he made the playoffs ten of his seventeen seasons. The dolphins are one, fifty, two, hundred, seventy, four since he laughs and in one or four one and four the playoffs they've not had a franchise quarterback since Dan Marino, left the dolphins. That's why they are putting so much stock into as they should absolutely not about. Not, about winning this weekend and he by the way you're only I think only a four point, Doug, this is actually a perfect spot because the rams off a huge impressive Monday night performance have to fly three thousand miles to the dolphins off of by this may be another blazing five picks her interesting. I I I completely agree with Joel I did not think it was a shocking time to move fitzpatrick. Waiting to. When they were going to do and I always guessing. We kept waiting. We kept guessing what week it was going to happen like we were like I was like week nine week in the NFL move the buyout. So at the the league kind of Forced Miami's hand they were GonNa do it at the bye week clearly, they just moved by wake up why not give him an extra week to prepare with the number one always knew that they were going to move off Fitzpatrick. Patrick said, he knew until that move with actually made. Surprise winning getting to the playoffs. Or winning a meaningless playoff game is not going to help the development of the dolphins unless to the quarterback everything shoulder said is correct. Winning organizations. I haven't had the privilege of being born and raised in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and watching the steelers my entire life know what a winning organization does the standard the Super Bowl not making the playoffs that's not what that's not what a winning organizations do. That's not success if you're building than yes. That's a successful season. This year with two. When getting to the playoffs Fitzpatrick does nothing for the development of the dolphins it's mediocrity and I'm not interested in it. Tom Brady's decision to leave New England for Tampa Bay has been working out very well for him. He is clearly winning up divorce right now and Peter King thinks he should have seen the move coming after Brady's last game with the Patriots. He spoke with Brady right after the loss and says, looking back he sees that bracing meaner wasn't just because of the game's outcome. Tom Brady was I would call him discount that day. One thing that I can help with big visit he knew for quarterback New England was hopeless. You tell me if there is one off offensive player on that team that causes a defensive coordinator to game plan against him there is not one. Cam Yeah I'm Peter. Settlers show the other day there's no weapon on the offensive side of the ball. That right and Cam was not there obviously because Brady. Was the quarterback. So the only the only player when Brady was there that the the the NATO plan for was Brady, and in this case it's Kim. There's no offensive weapons that make defensive coordinators nervous and Brady knew that so. Him leaving makes perfect sense. Why do you want to injure career careers? That situation? Why when you were input is given as a not taken and your Tom Brady this was this was like a fork in the road that we all saw coming. I I'm not. I'm not married to Romance Right, Oh God meter like the things that way. Wonderful. I. Love story it's fantastic. The ending it's great. Then there's like reality where. All, the time and sometimes you spend some time apart and then you come back together and then like you work some things out and makes exceptions, you just decide to work it out right or you just divorce and that's fine too. Because at the end of the day you guys both have journeys you have to go through in life and that's really what happened with the. Tom Brady like, yes. Would have been romantic for him to end his career there as the greatest player of all time short. But it's also a spinoff story that he wants to Tampa Bay and could very well what a super bowl this year. I also are available Zacharias his contract with the Eagles up after the twenty, twenty one season, and there has not been much progress on an extension but there is some interest from other teams packers. The Eagles reportedly got calls in the packers and the Ravens. He'd be a great fit for Green Bay about tight end. Yes. Were made but hurt his ankle and had to be placed on injured reserve instead I don't think Philadelphia Shut my question is. Philadelphia I still things going to win that division because I'm not sure if I'd do that. Well, the trade deadline is Tuesday. November third. Third. Four PM Eastern urges. Active. Maybe a trained in the White House to. Arts isn't as eighth season and turn thirty in November he has twenty four receptions on seventy eight yards and one touchdown Dallas. Goddard's rookie deal is also after the twenty twenty, one season, he's only played in three years. So there, the Philadelphia also hurt his ankle. Philadelphia. Same. We can't pay for both. Let's move on. Yes and. It's time for us to get paid. So yes, this would have been trade. You make four obviously he got injured, but it'll be available to make and how long injury after be let's be honest about New England after Aaron Rodgers and a couple of their linebackers coach not paying anybody we're not Jones big money at. Are they not paying Davante Adams big money you you couldn't afford to pay. Zach hurts. I mean, they're not again. I it's. It's not like Seattle where you're gonNA pay Jamal Bobby. Wagner, you're paying dunlap you play whose Green Bay Pan Aaron Rodgers deserves the money and the linebackers both came over made good money not not outrageous money and the free agency a year ago like go pay Zach Hurts Zagreb's deserves to be paid and he's still he's still produce at a high level obviously when. Healthy volume tight end hearing needs another weapon. He's made it clear. He wants to stay in Philadelphia but again, this is clearly not how it's GonNa work out. 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But now for the first time, you're going to hear what really happened. Here from the people who lived it? Listen and follow fight night on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts more wherever you listen to podcasts. Great to you and there's a story out today Trevor Laurence says, he may come back to school I listened to the tape. He doesn't really say that he does intimate he doesn't have an answer yet he will go pro and he will end up I imagine with the New York jets I do think it's interesting though that he does not need the New York jets and let me just say this actors the world changes no longer need to go on Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert it's called Social Media Kim Kardashian told David Letterman I have one hundred and thirty seven, million instagram followers why would go in a late night show? The quarterbacks in the NFL mahomes, Baker Mayfield Aaron Rodgers on the most commercials play in Green Bay Kansas. City. In Cleveland you don't need New York for stardom in two thousand twenty. What about the Yankees? That's not a New York thing if it was, you'd have to go to the mets. That's a great bran thing with the Yankees the NFL didn't have Los Angeles for over two decades and grew substantially. Wall. Street used to be where the rich hats hung out. They made movies about it. Now, Silicon Valley could buy and sell Wall Street and has major influence. New York's a great city and I love it. There's nothing like it in terms of energy and fun when it's not freezing. But you don't need New York as an athlete Trevor. Lawrence has the leverage not a city. Brock yards, my friend, he's been working at Fox sports. Now for a little over a year, we put them on NFL Games now, which is unbelievable. One of the smartest guys that does football analysis work for any network. He's now ours and we love that brought cure NFL player for six years joining me. Back, up to peyton manning the colts which I don't think I've ever said that I think I knew that but I just saw the piece of paper. So let let me ask you this you as a former Seattle guy. We're both Seattle guys I've been saying this that Russell Wilson feels like a life preserver. Sometimes on a sinking roster they got him Carlos Dunlap this morning. I think that's big. I like Pete Carroll I like the GM John Snyder but I watched Monday and I, say to myself it's to Russell. Wilson centric is that what as a former NFL quarterback? Do you see some of that? When you say that Colin because the seahawks are dead last on defense I'll say that again, the seahawks are dead last and giving up over fifty yards more than the second worst defense in the league. That I've called twice and that is the Atlanta Falcons. So you can have a middle of the pack defense but you also need a defense at least they're giving them takeaways call and that is one thing they are doing. They are giving him some extra possessions of, but that Defense did not hit Sakala me one time. They did not hit cuyler Murray one time on Sunday night that can't happen and this is a defense. Let's remember that P Carol continues to have invested in drafts capital Jamal Adams future first round picks like this is a group defensively that they have committed to that should not be this bat. So yes, there is too much on Russ if he's gotta throw it forty or fifty times and the people love it because he's cooking all over the place but you're not GonNa win a world championship. He'll have the biggest numbers however had you may have the most individual. Gory but to win a title to win that division, they have to be more balanced as a football team. There's a rumor out today Zach Ertz too the packers potentially they've made calls. We've heard rumors about Amari cooper to the Green Bay packers. What I think sometimes fans forget you can bring certain players on like a corner and they can pick up a system very quickly but quarterbacks, there's a reason in the summer they invite their receivers and tight ends out to their town because it's all about timing. How long would it take Aaron Rodgers and a Veterans Zach? Cooper that you literally think that Aaron would throw them open would trust them could could could no they would be in the spot like I think fan sometimes think Oh. So you throw the football around quarterback receiver that is a relationship. How long does it take to build? In the further that point I think a little bit Colin. You're not going to Clemson, where you've got like four place, right then you run to formations in your uptempo you're going in Green Bay probably the most complex offense in the NFL. To probably the most demanding quarterback when it comes to that precision in timing you're talking about. What they have done, I had them twice earlier this year and the amount of time they spent this off season Colin trying to eliminate vowels in their call. So, they can make that call in enough time from head coached quarterback in the huddle and still get to the line scrimmage and do all their check with me. So it is a very complex system to now I will say this, you're not going to be the. Savior. Going there to be the one Davante Adams is the one. So you're going there to be the to or for. You're going there to really complicate compliment Mercedes Lewis the tight end. So you're not going they're having to just be the one to hit number four in the lineup. You're going there to hit five or six in the lineup, and also if they make that move I think Aaron Rodgers be a little bit more patients than he would be with some of the young players they've tried to develop. That Allen lazard injury was a big one because he was coming Aaron was really liking them. He was confident that he could be there too. So I think it would be a challenge. It'd be very difficult to any young player that does not have a depth of football background but in Mario Cooper Zach Ertz have played in systems played multiple systems they could do it but I guarantee you that quarterback will be pretty demanding of exactly where they need to be six years in the NFL, he's calling NFL games for US called the Falcons Lions last week. We know the teams that need a quarterback and we know the teams that have a great quarterback. Atlanta's fascinating. You Start Looking at Matt Ryan he's older I do believe is the game changes you can't move them around much in the pocket. He's good enough for some I don't know if the new coach GM in Atlanta and you just watched his game is Matt Ryan somebody a new coach should say all right I'll take four years of Matt Ryan or is it time to draft the Justin fields develop for a year and move on what do you see? Four years that's not going to happen. Now, two years is a different conversation and Colin his finances of his contract are going to make it very difficult on whoever that next GM our head coach is to say trade them move them cut on that's going to be financially. So irresponsible. So more than likely, you're going to have him for two years and I think two years the right system with with the right supporting cast. They've done some good things on offense but I mentioned to you earlier they were the second worst defense only to the sea hawks. Can't rush the passer not taking the ball away some some challenges on that side. So you're going to have Matt Ryan whoever that GM or head coach in my opinion you're GonNa have that Ryan for the next couple of years because that contract is just so financially difficult to move. If you wanted to move off of him, do you think there's a market for cam? Newton I did after the Seattle game then I came to terms with own weight everybody scores on Seattle and then I looked this morning and I'm like if I get to more bad showings and it's not all camps faults the slowest receiving corn the leak I wonder what the market is for Cam would what say you Yeah. It depends calling on what kind of tape he continues to put forward throwing the football what they did. The first couple of weeks was awesome. The League really seen it didn't make many adjustments to it. He's running all over Miami is running all over Seattle but we know that's not sustainable especially a player at his age in his tear on those tires. So it's can you throw the ball effectively enough the last couple of weeks that's been a definitive no, that's coming up no practice time that's coming up. As you said, a beat up receiver crew edelman is just band AIDS right now. So it's going to be challenge in challenging environment for him but to me call him. Be All about how efficient? How accurate can he anticipates I'm not seeing that haven't seen that the last couple of weeks you're going to give him a grace period all new. There's less practice not immense talent outside, but it will ultimately come down to how well he can throw it in more than likely calling how much bill belichick believes in him because they don't have another answer, they're not going to draft one or two they're not gonNA get Trevor Justin. So really comes down to I. Think how much does bill believe in him to extend him long-term six years in the NFL Fox NFL analyst does a tremendous job brought cured love having you on the show man thanks coming by. Always, a blast call in any time you bet brought to you by the way a little inside the the rope is he was at the other place and I went for a year and a half to two years I went to our management and I said he's a star on Seattle radio. The Guy knows more football. 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We are live investors bank studio on a friday morning labor day weekend. It is the boomer and ram without the boomer without the g so instead one more day you get myself and you get mr job and there are some shows right very much. Look forward to coming in and doing and i wonder uh-huh how no i'm not sorry how guys like yourself come in here and do this every single day when there's really not a lot of good to talk about right in some cases most of my most of my career has been non-saudi certainly the teams i root for not allowed to destroy about so when i'm watching the game last night and i we are not going to do you four hours on the mets because there's no it's. It's not we'll start. There didn't play right the football games. Were dr stock exact stop. There were some things around roundtable we can talk about. K. and there are other things too. We can have some fun with that stuff going through the morning but also say is this. Why do we keep putting guys is on base and not getting a big hit in the early innings. Why even bother watching at this point well looking good morning joe. I'll watch met fan but the seas. It's over now. I mean let let's be real they. They gave us a nice run. They had this crazy run to get us back. You know to pull us back as michael kalayaan once said they pulled me back in gene okay and that's what they did and now we're you know now now. It's it's done a six game losing streak all the big pitchers look. Jake pitched well last night. I mean he made a couple of mistakes and a game. I can't get on him. They never score run guy never ever home run from jay which is still going. I'm the home runs. I've seen the center. Davis has been one of the great surprises that year for the mattamy. He got two guys on base yeah. I know you're watching it like good. Raise your word. I it's it well. What are you going to do. What can you say well. I just never i never felt comfortable in its game aim when carolina hit the home run to tie game immediately again avis right after the davis right aft it at a and here we get typical. Jake you know gives up that one run away seems needs to give up a run. They don't school school. Maybe one then he has his run. When he goes he retired like fifteen or sixteen race runner right right and then you know couple little a a little bit leader here a little seeing i single there and the next thing you know it's a decca games old victor carotene yet unbelievable right. I've got i've never heard of victor character to the series until the series was unbelievable and the shot. I had a bit part in goodfellas he was he had a bit part. They did the pot here here. You are the mets now. It's week ago. You're sitting there saying this is gonna be one hell of a september and we haven't gotten to september and later and it was like what in the hell just well like. My partner said when i saw we kept saying how the whole run evident. I would not together filling in here. He's there. I'm here all it is. He's on vacation komo vacation and he said you watched by the time you and i get back together the day after labor day. He's not over for the mets. Well you know what he's right. Yeah i suppose i mean i'm not going to gorge agenda five games. Let let's just look at the reality of it is that they're not making the playoffs right totally but i'm not gonna sit and be one of those guys as everybody. Everybody did in july and i understand four forget who they gonna jump off. I hate that just when you're games. I understand that we're eleven games under five hundred or so. You've got a full national now. They did not want to hear that ever again. They did that having been said. They can't beat the teams ahead of them. Don't matter anymore and they gotta play phillies now coming up and they gotta play the nationals. I think they got the dodgers. I jus after that you know mollins. There's no more pirates you notice no more white socks on his schedule. You know what i thought. It was a little different though honestly. I thought it was different. I thought the likes of the j._d. Davis the likes of the jeff. Mcneil's compete alonzo's like these are guys that have been here. That haven't been it's been. I don't know like you would listen to pete alonzo talk after a game and it seemed like the attitude was just different. It was kind of like yeah young. Instead hit home runs and we're going to win. Games and things have turned around sounded. I looked at the way the four pitchers were pitching for the most part and it was kind of everything in every way you would drop this team to play and i know people might call and yeah well. They beat up on the bed. Teams okay fine. A lot of teams beat up on the bed teams at least the good teams doing. That's what you're supposed to do and if you could just at least hover against the really good teams. You're going to be either with a chance six in a row at home for a team that even against good team. This year have been very good against didn't see that coming. I i just didn't see it either. I look who saw common now look. The braves are back to being what the brave's always wore against the mets going back twenty years ago. They can't beat the braves. I mean that's where the mets are in that situation right now but i mean this cup series. I said okay the cubs. Cubs just come off. They got swept at home by washington. You figure okay okay and in washington. Did the mets a little bit of a fair yeah at least two games here. I've got all my big pictures gone or at least two of them with <hes> noah and jake and it didn't happen. They didn't hit look the bottom line. Is they have not hit. I mean going back. Even to the indian series you'll get the last two games against cleveland really hitting those games either even though they want him and that's which killed them that they have not hit and that's the bottom line so weird team because i've even heard you on several occasions during the course of the season saying you like the offense offense the offense things they go into these funk's ninety were the ages. They can't pull the trigger on anything anything and it doesn't even matter who the pitcher is. Yea lester was in trouble at least three innings as yeah yeah. I'm not going to say that's not fair but they had chances to put some numbers on the board award right they just don't do it couldn't get most of that was with two outs they couldn't they couldn't get the two out hit last night i look. I don't know what i think what you got. I i look at the situation with the mets right now. They're not making the playoffs. I do look ahead though i look at you mentioned the guys alonzo mcneil j._d. Davis viz released come out of nowhere great van wagon. That was a tremendous trae kid rosario conforto. They got a real nice young nucleus glorious of everyday players now so i think you know you look at that going forward. We understand the pitching bullpen israel. We're really doing this. Season was the bullpen it sure did. They put themselves too big a hole that they had to get out of. We talked about that making that. Roy knows something about bill russell and making that big run you down twenty two you cut it to two but you could never get over the hump and that's what basically happened to mets and now they've kind of fell back a little bit into the pack again in the running out of time i mean the bottom line is they're running out of time yeah and they're going to need in a big run if they want to be relevant in the final month. This season in the bullpen was a story for sure and it was because it wasn't that they were bad as they were blowing games that they had one. You don't question the eighth no question about it now. You've got to win this game and it's not like you could say well. The bullpen wasn't good tie games where we were down a ron and they couldn't hold no no. They blew games that they had one and yes. That's certainly hurt their season but <hes> that having been said they've really buried themselves in this last week of august guest and disappointing to watch the other thing too is and i know a caller call up about it. I want to say it was either. It was awesome. I'd have been evan might have been evan evan who called up yesterday and talked about how the mets are gonna fool themselves into thinking that they're a good team because of what they've done here the only dogs it was on our show. I thought he said you know an van wagoner gonna do nothing can always gonna come back. They're gonna put him in a lineup. Lowery's gonna come back. They're going to give a stat about lowery lowery diaz. Who's gonna bounce back. I think that's where i disagree with you. You will have an again this zig. I don't believe this guy's been injuring grown his career and this has been been a disaster but you're going to have jet larry who i believe signed for two years so you're gonna have lowry who i think. There's gonna be back with the team soon because he was even played again last night. I think he had a home run last night. He will play a little bit here in september but you're going to have him. Guess what he's going to be playing for next year. Contre a new contract and i could see he pets looking him in at third base. Dave anthony rent on. I'm going to be honest is when you got anthony rynd on and josh donaldson sitting there okay as free agents careful with josh donald okay firefox guy one guy i five gauges be careful with the other one guy one. Go out there and sign this guy. Take them away from washington. This guy's a killer he's met killer. It's a double whammy. If you sign him triple-whammy. Could you take them away from you. When you big rivals into division and you take away guide it's killed you over the years and you put you on and put him on your team. That's the one signing like like sudafed sto get bringing anti rent frazier's gone. He plays star basic point is you're gonna have lowry playing for a contract. Well you're going to have cesspit is playing great. Sorry contract so while i get the guy's point there are going to be guys that are going to be motivated and not only that motivated to play because of all these other guys that have come out of nowhere and become very good everyday me jeff. Mcneil might be batting champion yeah j. d. davis has been an incredible signing pita laws. They traded. I'm sorry pete alonzo's going to be a fifty home. Run guy this year. I mean there's a law to like. It's just a shame though it's kinda crashed and burned and the last week or <hes> it's and some way somehow going forward. This team has to hit for jacob degrom because we just it's the last two years have been. It's unbelievable when you think of other aces through the years all well he'll let me just say this you know what their records and games started and seventeen jerry john how hi the stat going back to last year how few games they wouldn't when he pitches it's unbelievable and he gives up two runs or less. It's it's beyond it's beyond incredible any other as you can think of that have dealt with something like this on a regular basis. I mean going back to all the years of being a met fan system day one in the beginning of time. I watched the mets for years. Be a team. That really never hit. You know even to us. They want a series of sixty nine seventy three when it went to panic all those years when they had seaver and coups men and and matlock back in one of those different guys all pitchers and they were soap pitching-rich team at that point. I mean that's what they were. I mean every game would seem to be three two two one one one. Nothing you had to pitch a shutout to win. I saw that over and over and over again you go back to the eighty two team now eighty to seventy three eighty to seventy three-team. I don't want thinking eighty two maybe because i think eighty two the seventy-three team and eighty one eighty two games to win the pennant that to you that's why i think that's why eighty two number party all right my mind but outside a senior who had a great you won cy young. I think nineteen ten one is cy young back when it mattered when you one games because pitchers would actually pitch sean nine innings matt lake and kouzmin both at terrific us both were five hundred. I think matlock was fourteen and fifteen and i did kouzmin was like thirteen in sixteen something like that. Even both of those guys had terrific years that it was a typical mets they would lose to one or three two to all the time so i've seen this forever with the mets i mean it just seems like it's outside of outside of really of the team in the eighties because the eighties team from one one thousand nine hundred forty one thousand nine hundred ninety two. That's the glory ism mets baseball. I mean every year they had a chance to win. They were ninety plus win team every year. Unfortunately there was no wildcard back then because they would have been in the playoffs every day. You know they had a ninety eight when team that didn't even get into playoffs sure he wants to call those at one hundred hundred one that year one thousand nine hundred five you know that team could hit with carter hernandez darrell all those guys outside of that team the mets of always been a team team. That's really relied on pitching. I mean that's really been the strong suit or that team. I guess the ninety nine two thousand team could hit as well. It wasn't as pitching heavy. A you know had al wider you had rick read those guys but that's generally what the mets have been for their entire history so i'm used that he's kind of losses but it's just i've never seen one specific big guy not getting any run support like the garage. It's incredible. I mean it's just incredible how good he is and how yet rare it is that they win when he starts amazing one just quickey with the yankees <hes> it was another thing yesterday. Maybe this is what i heard with evan driving home a guy called up and said you know it's amazing the flagship station of the yankees and all it is talk talknet talk and done this now a lot this summer and you sit there and say all right you play in the game in the car but he's not wrong standpoint of it's a lot of talk sure but then i sit there and say evan. I wish he would have kind of responded this way. What is there to say other than we're waiting for october. Hold that's it. That's exactly right. If you wanna call and talk about the yankees guys the numbers there eight seven three three seven sixty six sixty six we will take your yankee calls goes from right now up until ten o'clock not opposed to it but aside from telling you how amazing they are what they're doing and how incredible it is how good they are and that they're going to win the division by i think still the end of the dates and be fifteen sixteen games and all is said and done and that they're fighting for not the division asian championship or the pennant. They're fighting for home field throughout the postseason to them when they play the dodgers. If they play the dodgers they play they have home field advantage the world series right. I'm throwing that out because the dodgers record right i. There's nothing to say other than they're fantastic. There's no controversy with them. There's nothing by throwing bouquets at them. You want to call and talk about them. We beg you to that's fine but aside from just talking about how a great they are. What is there to slow the problem is and you know you stated part of it but right now especially with the mets coming from eleven games on the five hundred to to at least make this run. They've made the mets at a story to metro bigger story you looking to get a look at the story. The mets were bigger story than yankees at this point in time. That's that's the difference like you said the yankees really not story there the next and i continue to say all right the home i understand home field advantage and all that and you offer whatever stock you wanna really put that okay. I think it's a bigger deal than football and even in football these teams in football when they clinched playoff spot. They're not really worrying about home. Field advantage and i don't think the yankees really are either. They can talk about it but i don't think that's that really big deal. The next big game the yankees play is going to be game one or two division series. That's witness season. He's in stocks again and that's when we general orleans them. Absolutely i mean that's it and a friend of mine. Who's a huge anky. Van said to me probably early last last week because i had made a similar comment like i just made with you. He goes no. You're missing there the entire story because of the injuries. I got we've done it. We talked about it over and over again when we say look. I'm not a yankee fan. Everybody knows that there's no this is no secret here but are we are especially evident. We do show we we objective about the yankees of course we are how much praise can keep on brian cashman. I go. I fight yankee fans about how great a g._m. This guy is and you know yankee offense complaining about how could you plane guy's been here twenty years. You're every year. You've had a winning season. Look it's not it's not the forties and fifties anymore. You're where you win you win new league and you go right to the world series also different worlds now well but you get to the playoffs now. Well and you got a three round crapshoot. You got three rounds of series crapshoot that you have to win okay unless you're gonna walk log game into to win a world series. It's a different situation now. It's not that easy and i know it's been ten years for the yankees since day. One which is like thank you for the yankees. Come on. That's like a jets going fifty without a super bowl. I understand that i get it to the fan but i can't say say enough great things about cashman. I can't say enough great things about what he's you know the guys that he's broadened every guy he's brought in here. You know talk men and may bidden and avoid and ford and we go right on down the line or shelhah. Every guy has got the job done. I mean it's unreal. You want to kill him for stanton. You wanna kill him for ellsbury married guy look. Everybody's made mistakes over the years. There's no doubt about it. How can you possibly i mean the job that brian. Cashman is done this year with all the injuries. The a yankees have had incredible. This guys wanted a great g._m.'s. I have nothing but respect the yankees at a great sports franchise in history of american sports. Let's be but let's be real. Who's next the canadians the celtics it's been a long time for those franchises. I mean he's air every year. Even only have one day a championship ten years so you know. I don't know what you want me to say. You know it's funny that you bring that up because yesterday yesterday afternoon after after i was at the pool for about two and a half half hours you know it was just a gorgeous day after that terry and i went to shoprite shoprite and ramsey. I'll give him a pop as you have lived. I lived there. I spent so much money there. I mean it should they should give me at least a couple of freebies but with that said you know i'm gonna shop by ramsey. I see this guy a little a little older than me. He's got a michigan hat on right and i walked by him. He looks at me. He goes joe beningo. He's like okay i so what are you both sham beckel because he had like a michigan hat on and he goes on he starts going on he was in he was in and <hes> he worked for the daily news thirty years and all it is i used to do radio and he's talking about me and evan and starts ripping me. I mean like like swimming. Aggressively rip your johnny lam jones basically he's aggressively ripa me that you're not really you know when you talk show you're a fan and you shouldn't be a fan dan and and and you should be a reporter and not a fan and i'm looking at this guy and i'm saying hold on a minute. I said on the talk show host. They said i'm not covering the team. That's not what would i do. 'em item matured onto by the way let me say that admit sure it on as well and i think i had my titlis met hat on because i got a real nice tightness minute whatever but anyway so i had that on him in there and he's so what's the problem with you met fan yeah okay well. I'm a fan. That's what i am. I said before anything. I'm a fan but you know what i'm talk show host. I'm not paid to go in and break down and report on team like a reporter would do. That's not what i do and he's ripping me the how to do that and you know. Maybe maybe you're at the top now but you're going to be at the bottom and i'm like i finally said to my said look i said what are you a yankee fan. He goes yama yankee fan so look through yourself. Go win the world series okay when the world series you know he's not about how to forty games okay great. I understand it's tremendous win the world series. You know it'd be a major disappointment for your team. If you don't go on and win the world series this year after the county right now of course the bar they've said finally after he was still oh yellow hat me and my wife is walking away because my wife. She's got to get away from these sees. Let me take eras you know don't worry about it and eventually took the guy's hand and i walked away and that was the end of it but i mean that's the bottom line evident. I could be more. We are as objective as could be about what the yankees are are. We don't sit there and kill the yankees we don't do that. We tell it like it. Is we have respect for them and we in fact we kill teams more than anything is going to say. You're more objective with the yankees then you are. We kill the man of the club. We kill the kill. The mets jets the two teams. I root for the knicks i kill them. All and i mean what's that to kill supposed to say everything. Everything is sunshine and light and one team has won. Fifty years has won thirty. Three's and you gotta team hasn't won a what forty seven years where might supposed to sit there and say oh everything is great awesome shining light joe shopping like the cardinal fans. Everything is always beautiful. Well no so i don't understand what people will want you to be and i think a lot of times people hear what they want to hear right and that's true. They here is yes. There's no doubt and einstein what a yankee flagship. I get that but the but the the name of the station is the fan. It's the fan it's not yankee radio. It's the fan and you know and i thank thank marc chernoff fact doing it's twenty five years and i've never had to compromise being a fan. You know what i mean i do never i understand and that's and that's something that i would. I don't know if i could have done that and thank god. I haven't had to worry about doing it to that. Guy shoprite joseph screw you. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I was working. I i couldn't have been nicer. You know i guess i shook his hand and i've actually walked away and that was the end of each the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo wpro half past six on the fan avid boards network as well gel the voice of jobe. Yes in jail on tuesday opener but he's a wonderful week. Gorgeous goss today lows playing golf game for him. Dan let's go but why are you not playing one. I thought you weren't playing a little bit again now like nine in holder so i played one round this summer all right. That's about it. Jerry's the jerry's got it got it right low. He's what john yeah. I understand because it had no you never do know. I have to say just quickly because i don't wanna take your time time. The first day we played was july third mine a one. I only remember together. The next day was the fourth offer offer valid. I remember he was two thousand and one and i brought him to. I belong to glenwood country. Yeah old bridge at that's nice play used to tell me about and i brought in there and if you remember those temperature was smokey behind ninety nine thousand five hundred ninety one hundred and we he played. I want a sixteen fifteen sixteen holes. Were you yeah you had at that point. You'd had enough cut off sixteen and seventeen when fifteen to eighteen. It's like a beaten man. Thank you broke one twenty that day. No she does not know she. Lets then he got hit. Good shots all day. Here was my comment to joe. If the ball goes forward alward you've done well because you didn't know where i was so all say is a few holes in he's in the woods and you hear the the ball hitting branches and trees pain that he was saying hundred degrees. We finished the round and i'm thinking now keep in mind to it. Took me years to get him out. Their liftoff roy the golf constantly. We're finally said oh mike. I'll i'll accept your criticism criticism. If you just come out and klay want judge book by its cover did not go well. At least i didn't think so we go into the bar afterwards. I ordered a martini. If i remember correctly back when i could actually drink them and i step by her do marked ready for him to unload on ma'am i mike so what did you think and kind of put my you know my face and when he was wiping the sweat from his forehead he was bright red and only at the time you're only in your forties young dude. You're probably major a little. It was a two thousand years ago. That's eighteen years ago yeah so i was like <hes> a forty eight forty eight right now there and i'm like he he is just gonna let me with this and he's swiping the sweat turns and faces bright red and he looks at me. He goes bro bleeping awesome. Nice said you enjoy this okay. I thought yeah and he hasn't stopped playing all day. I think but i would. I was like this. Is that a you. Only here's one good shot that and i couldn't wait to play again. I think i went out and played again like right away to ukraine. What did i tell you that day and you've never ever are followed. My advice would i. I forget what you told me. I said. If you like it take less than go take. You're right. I should have done. I can do this samachar. I should have done it. What happened you. I've started playing. She took less. She's better than yes. He's as good. I'll say that good so it took my wife a lot shorter period of time time to get where i am then i got well sure i say gigondas. I took place where where she is now. She probably got about five or six years faster than i did. As you work through all your mistakes get yourself through the pain i did. I definitely did anyway all right. Chris good morning. Sir morning brought to you by town fair tire tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. Nobody the cubs though had no trouble beating the mets at citi field this week ryan at second bias at first one out one two carotene three one shot to put the cubs in fort it was gary cohen and s n y keith in ron recalling for it. They wanted the slider down in from jacob degrom. He didn't get it there and carrot teeny hammered into the second deck a backbreaker backbreaker which capped the scoring four one cubs to complete the three game sweep another frustrating night for him as he falls to eighty two or three balls were hit hard all night the two homers and then lucas out to right field and then found a couple holds solo homer should care teeny jay. Davis had the game nodded at one into the seventh. John lester worked around five hits three walks to allow only the one run over his sixth innings of work and after three run shot the mets were lifeless at the plate one base runner across the final title three innings and that came on an era by kris bryant craig kimbrel closed it out in the ninth micky calloway's offense certainly struggle sinking it all up to where ends up up in runs you know it's kind of spread throughout and there's a couple of outs in between and mcneil rosario and alonzo combined to go for ten last night. Wilson ramos was were <music>. Aside from ramos has hit every twenty two to now. They had the one inning where they were down. God knows how many runs and they scored. The five runs in the fifth winds the hat. Now you're right yeah. That's it yeah when they were when they were on their run. They were score. I guess yes they were jumping out the leads. Obviously that that is not happening. Now and even calloway sounds like i know what he's still like. Mr positive sunshine enlighten all it is even he could see. He's resigned resigned now to what's what's happening here. <hes> let's go to this. I'm going to say here's what i'm going to say i i did not. I usually listen and listen. I'm going to predict that at some point. He says we're never gonna give up. These guys are never going to give up. Does he say that he does he does it does not in this exact cut. I don't think i don't remember every word but we'll hear it all right. Six zero five behind the wildcard now believable mickey says they're still talk. I definitely believe that. I know or front office. Believes it in forty thousand fans out there. I think they believe it to maybe right right. That's the chills mickey that are out there and there's a number of them. They believe it. The real met fans. Don't sell believe it right. The realistic listrik met fan doesn't really buy it. It'll start with a big performance against the phillies this weekend probably sweep fairness. Don't be don't don't jump down my throat fairness. The real met fan new the reality of the situation when they were eleven games either that the season was over right one sits in this chair chair every day that declared the team dead no need to ever discuss them again until next year right and then all of a sudden the team starts winning all my god. Could they actually do we well. We go look. I said both of us evan and i both thought they were done. Whenever eleven games on the five hundred who say it's over before the fourth of july we we went to all of that but the bottom line is even with that when i mean look i'm watching the game tonight. I mean i'm not going to tell you that i'm still going to be emotionally involved in the mets the rest of the year until they're officially eliminated even though i think it's over but you know i think a of we're we're on a now. I mean a lot of trouble. There were a lot of trouble thousand asked him to the post in philly were this year they have not been able to beat the phillies l. long time they also have been one of the best teams in baseball original six hundred and one of the worst roads swabbing. That's all true that's right. That's baseball season. Yes it is and they have have zack wheeler on the mound tonight and he's let me say this to will do the last two times out and of course they're facing one. He's stuck after we had fifteen consecutive school. Sittings now spunk the last two times out so he is due. It's been a real wet rotation. Of course they're only going against nolan right. Who's the one point we'll see what plays out down there at citizens bank the evening elsewhere the diamondbacks ax roughed up the dodgers hit a deep right center field back to the warning track bank of the wall is gone into the pool escobar. You're a three nothing lead in that game and you think why even bother yup thirtieth of the season escobar ends up in eleven five win for arizona young engine reu- all of a sudden struggling suffered his third straight losses e._r._a. Has risen nearly an entire run in that span so the n._l. Cy young award race now wide open as we head towards the final month of the regular season the pirates outside the rockies eleven eight padres of the giants five to three the marlins beat the reds in twelve four to three aquino again. Now has has the national league rookie record for homers a month with number fourteen when she got an alert last night unbelievable. It's amazing that keeps it in all these homers and losses not his fault the redskins. It sounds like alonzo lately. Yeah that's true <hes> the american league the twinset the major league record for home runs on the road in ten five win over the white sox in your home runs. I believe three last night it's up to one thirty nine and they are closing in on the overall homerun record of two sixty seven set by the yankees just last year. I think there are two sixty one swansea. They will fly yankees. I'm not sure but the twins definitely baseball. I know that all shakes away from the yankee and the exit seventy this so they must be like a hundred against the orioles exactly the raise the astros nine eight snapping houston's winning streak at six as of the royals also a nine on eight final. The indian shut up tigers. Fifty homer is okay so they do accept the twins right. I don't know how the yankees are eleven behind no but possible this year last year we'll see which of those two teams though as a big homerun month of september it could be a layoff match could yankees twins sixty one yankees to fifty dodgers to thirty to let houston to twenty nine last time. Two twins beat the yankees in big spot. It was kill the bruins bruin over time for the lineup wasn't didn't kill abreu wasn't he. One of the guys used to be on old black and white homerun derby show a lot you might you've been watching him yeah. Killebrew was tremendous man tonio leave it should be in the hall of fame when a great head is hughley was anyway. I'm sorry that's all right indian soon. I think over the tigers mike clovinger ten ks over eight innings as cleveland completes the sweep the mariners scored twice in the top of the night to beat the rangers five to three yankees back to work tonight start of a a six game homestand three as and three with the rangers. You could see cease about the against brett anderson. We'll have pre game coverage at six twenty five aaron boone with j._j. In barred here on the fan dan yesterday confirm luke void will return from the l. and be in the starting lineup this evening n._f._l. Preseason finally over high drama late fourth quarter in foxborough uh-huh let out of the shotgun one second play clock. He gets it off. Well letta throws. Let's go to the russell and he makes the catch for the touchdown. The giants play the game show last exactly very excited about the whole. I don't know what they're showing. That's fine now where they're basically engulfing. The entire field yeah yeah wild game spellcheck even at the game last t._v. One pen in his mouth the other penny was writing notes now in preseason from real quick <hes> several put this in slugged onto pittsburgh obviously with the film and evaluate the <hes> uh tomorrow and we need to make some decisions by the weekend you know start getting real. That's very very matter. Let me say right now and it's been woz is i've been i've talked to bill but it bill is anything but that in reality you see it every now and he's anything what he gives you you see the public persona couple of things there when you see him with his girlfriend and the pieces that don c._n._n. Acting as normal diamond being looks like a fun guy or reading on some of the n._f._l. Network shows like the football life or when you'll see when they do they're gonna put out the america's game about the pats. You'll get worn warren. No settings anything about amazed. I talked to him about football has nothing to do with his team yes but but other teams three of football yeah i can do twenty hours bill bell jack talking about the n._f._l. Over he's just he's unbelievable not that he'd ever do it but when he does finally retire from coaching he'd be great on television. He never he never doing. I'm sure he would be great a lot of personality audi kyle law letters showing out in his quest to make the team twenty two degree think coach belichick the n._f._l. Today hired him go to bella. Check for colvin. Alvin stays in character couple touchdowns including the game winner they yeah it's not a good thing i used to winning. You reminded you brought it up this morning today to two examples. I believe it was we were looking ended up. The josh seventy four yeah giants had a six and old preseason is back when he played six preseason games fourteen regular season games and anyone two games in a regular season and the jets jets in one thousand nine hundred ninety two which another one. I'll never forget what the one year when browning nagle the great browning nagle was quarterback nineteen ninety-two they played five preseason games a jet status status because i believe they played the hall of fame game. They went five pre season four and twelve thirty so when you feed you didn't in preseason that's not necessarily the eighty nine cowboys had a very good preseason fifty eight yeah keep in mind giants win the game thirty one twenty nine daniel jones got the start for four for forty seven yards. He li- junior satisfied with his exhibition performance goes ah to be able to see improvement to be able to measure <hes> you know improvement. <hes> you know from each preseason game he's pat shurmur pleased with the rookie as well all get in there and we got another week until we play dallas but he's getting there and i think he's he's done everything we've asked to. This point giants cowboys a week from sunday. Jerry jones again dan yesterday or last night saying he expects ezekiel elliott to miss multiple games as his contract dispute continues eighty nine three and one in the preseason their only loss was an overtime into the broncos and then. I only remember this cowboy fan dyke one. They played the saints in new orleans. They had the ball first aikman's driving them down the field. We only saw it because there was some reason they got to the jenner giant game late then cut away to the local game proceeded to get blitz twenty-eight. Nothing then lost <hes> twenty two thousand eight nothing in the first game thirty to seven thirty two thirteen and it was just a miserable steve wars sound yeah okay. We're definitely thirteen seven. Okay hang on for dear life. Yes the only one they had yep. Fliegelman got the best one two thousand eight lions four now on the preseason so i mean it really generally doesn't go undefeated in a preseason not at metlife i five or watch the giants. What the hell are you doing. God the jets. I'm sorry i said giant uh-huh iron giants in the same sense. That's like sacrilegious so yes a big takeaway from this game more struggles for taylor berta lead. He was good from twenty me three hundred thirty nine question. I can't ask mike. I'm like oh no good. I guess no no good from fifty three fifty six and forty nine adam gates though thrown them a life raft asked about his confidence in the kids good to those. I just saw all guys running out late. You just can't do that to the kicker. Can't you can't buses rhythm like that. Alvalade says he'd be good week. One running out late meeting the rest of the guys the special standard of an issue for the coach to get on now but if that happened in a regular season. I'm a little concerned about the head bad look coach. Coach and brian todd bowles coach. Oh yes i would let them know about it. Is i will face the the ad gays not heard anything yet now week one guns ablaze and if you don't go well not luke falk outplay davis davis sweb battlefield quarterback job if even keep three. We'll see cocoa cocoa off one in three. She was allowed their last night. They were fired up yeah. I wasn't watching last night but i like to see what happens is pretty another american <hes>. Where's your name here. Dave taylor townsend founded upset the force upset the four seeks out all right. Thanks very much heats the morning show with boomer esiason and greg nadi boomer and geo georgia's satellite show. You're right. You're saying seven seven seven seven only on the fantasy sports that were bob and mike with us today allen. He'll be back on tuesday back on tuesday. Certainly hope that everybody has a great holiday weekend before you back to the call so last night we wrapped up preseason and one common theme around the league and i bring it up because is the karl lloyd thing is out there obviously but boy the place kicking is really bad also jets kicker miss and listen none of fifth right berta let by forty nine fifty three and fifty six. I mean it was like he missed three thirty. Mil ship shots right right but still it does make a big spot you you may have to kick a fifty three yard field goal to win a game for sure and you're gonna need that especially in this in this age of football <hes> the bears. I mentioned this in the warm up show with chris. We do that every morning. Joe five forty five to six the bear kicker. They had last night pinera. I think his name is is. He misses an extra point. I sorta got. It looked like it was twenty yards to the level of the upright. Kicking fans are just going. I mean yes it. It looks like something near you would do it right. <hes> so it's it's a problem around the league but whatever so the jets do win six nothing. Nobody cares about that. <hes> we're happy were onto the regular season inc <hes> one thing i took from last night though again was it was another again it was dr. Daniel jones has done nothing this preseason that you didn't unlike no. He's been tremendous. Throw last night and i know again. The defenses are vanilla. We're not seeing <hes> ones and in some cases. We're not even seeing second-string string guys. We're seeing a lot of the other guys. He made a throw last night on in enron the ball was zip with such authority and precision that you're like like yeah now you see the arm that they fell in love with watching him. Let's and perhaps this is it now. This is not at the show on c._b._s. Sports but he doesn't miss a pass last night and this might have been in it and that's a beautiful stride right on target. Here's another great he really has and so he's going to push eli manning good or bad allies either gonna perform or feel the heat really. Let's be honest if the giants did not have a sixteen year iconic quarterback ahead of him him he'd be starting now. He'd be star. That's the only reason if this was you know another situation with just an average guy. I mean louisville the situation last year with the jets where it's it's. It's <hes> josh mccown is the guy who's going to be a starter. He would have been starting quarterback and i think the leash is going to be very short on eli. I i really do because let's be real about this. You know this is the eli is not shurmur and gallons guy there guy right this is their guide drafted him and they drafted him. They drafted him in a very controversial spot. It took him with the sixth overall. Pick in the draft. Every giant fan was killing him. I know giant fans now. There's still killing of i you. No you have no idea what this guy is. This guy turns out to be a great quarterback. You gonna forget you took him with the sixth. Pick in the draft so i think the leash is going to be very short. Ati lie and i fully expel say it this way. When the jets played a giant-sized he gets november ten. I fully expect daniel. Jones is the quarterback yeah. You're probably are we right. Gio has gone through the schedule and he sees the the natural breaks that makes sense to where he would insert him <hes> as opposed to putting him in against the patriots says the first grind progress and c._b._s. Sports never cast this schedule up on the board. They are good the c._b._s. Sports network money money the spot blassie's would be after that patriot game when you've got games against the cardinals and lions as opposed to say starting him you know against the vikings if you will ought to a tough start the first few they're all three. He's playing if their career at this and i would this surprise you. They play week week four against washington and it's jones haskins. Oh shoot. It's only forget him but that's the story when you want. The case keenum is odd. Shock task is to start from day one. I i mean case keenum. Let's get real well but has hasn't had the first couple of games are pretty rough. I know he even said i listened to some of his quotes sir this morning from yesterday from last night and even said he's not quite where he needs to be a he sees it. He didn't go twenty nine for thirty four. No in the preseason daniel jones day jones looks the pie absolutely and again against the top defenses yet and i do think it will be very beneficial for him to watch at least a few games. There's nothing wrong with that at all but yeah you're going to see him this year. I i just can't see the giants have a big season in any way she bit defensively. You see it yeah well the one thing i'll say the giants certainly upgraded you offensive line. I need you offensive line. Certainly on paper looks very very solid. Now we'll see about the receivers. I mean the wide receiving corps especially with the golden gate suspension really it doesn't it doesn't get excited. Ingram has a chance to be a real good time. He's heard all the time. Obviously offensive is going to revolve around barclay. There's no doubt about that but i think they should be. Okay offensively but you're right. I mean defensively i. I don't know what they're gonna. Eh do think the one thing about it. Though is i don't know that they would pull the trigger as early as you mentioned the redskins with how which would be really interested in three. I wonder you're you're right but even at oh it depends on how the three is are they losing games that they should have one depends does eli look old and slow is the offensive line not quite as good as they are teams really just especially golden tate out our teams really just so focused on barkley that he can't do anything i think it depends on where they are or how it looks and where they're quote unquote going. Do they have a chance to rectify the season or is it a complete loss right in the beginning yeah. We'll see you might know soon. You might new sooner than later might or they'll be the type of team that she's going to hover in mediocrity and we're going to get the whole well. You never know. We gotta run it on yeah. Wait for the eli manning too and i understand it's different because you know when eli took over for kurt warner was in an iconic giant quarterback that was sitting in front of him. No car was in great when he was here but they have a winning record when he made the switch they were fighting and i i was covering the team that year yes but you never got the sense that that was a great team. I didn't know okay and kurt warner sphere in that system and i'm not smart enough to remember all this stuff but he wasn't fit the way the cardinals were fit for him in the ran yet. Yeah you know it was different. This was perfect guide to kind of bide. Some time maybe win some games and then i time to pull the trigger and i remember when they did it. I was like i same type of thing like wow. This seems not bad and we're bringing eli in well. You were giving up on the year but he's like well. They pretty much did win. Another game to what the last game of the season against the cowboys the only game probably one game. I'll never forget the one game in baltimore ravens at him in eli. I don't know if he completed a pass in that game. I don't know if you've got a pass off in that game. It was so bad you know so. We'll see plays that i'd be very surprised. I said i i fully expect november. Ten jets giants that jones the quarterback. I really do and that would be a look of the future mike in clifton park. I think on that topic what's up. Mike mike how are you. Hey great <hes> so i had a question about set so last year we saw bridgewater the water and we were darnold and even feel that everyone's talking them off and it's still preseason football and when dan jones plays well. It's the talk of well. It's only it creepy and then they wanna what is different about that. It just doesn't make sense to me <hes> if you can explain that thanks preseason not you're not facing regulars regulars when you're out there. I mean not playing against the number one defense of that team. It's a whole different field. It's preseason. It's not regular season in just a million different for reasons. I'll go back again. I'm going to go back to browning nagle that one thousand nine hundred eighty two year. This guy looked like he was a world beater in preseason for the jets and even game one they played the atlanta falcons in sweats and they and he had a great game. They lost thirty to twenty nine because the immortal jason stirrups key to kick a miss like five field goals in that game and it would have won the game and i'll never ever forget after that amman look. I think we have a quarterback said that a few. I think we've got a quarterback. Four games and browning nagle was never seen again after that after that eight years now so you just can't go crazy as good as jones's looked. You just can't go crazy about preseason and that's why people are saying well. It's only preseason. We season the one guy that over the years. Chad pennington was the one guy that i know you love tonight v. real quarterback if you know what it wasn't even the army just got hurdle to the injuries. Just really you know when he was healthy to jets. Were a playoff team. I mean you look at the us that and even the union was in miami the division with miami pennington when pennington played the jets one with pennington was hurt that they were they were brutal so in all my years knowing you pennington brandin and mark sanchez in the beginning were the two that you were ready to hang your hat on yes and rightly so sanchez even though the numbers they won they won and he was there and they won one and back to back championship games and long sanchez incredibly enough. There's one more playoff games in any jet quarterback in history and did something that you know i mean he beat two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time on the road in playoffs in back to back weeks in manning and brady and it's on the road so you know amazing her shortest career on the buddy never as much as i love the wrecks and i thought i to me rex should still be a coach he really he really should be but that's you know look. It's long gone now. The one thing rex did not do did not coach this kid correctly. They just never did he never had the proper coaching and i think that was a big part of it and then that stupidity the dumbest thing rex ever did to put sanchez in that game. That's stupid giant preseason game late in the game for some reason to try to win win is meaningless game and sanchez gets hurt that forced gino smith beat a starting quarterback that year and that was it and it was that now no doubt seven eighteen on the fan and c._b._s. Sports network. We'll take a break. We'll get lopresti and next forget. Morier calls coming up as well on a friday. We are live from the investors bank studio now. It's the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer n._g._o. Five hundred twenty-five going on seven twenty six in the fan and c._b._s. Sports network be boomer and geo show the boise back on tuesday right now chris loprestie. Who's been here a lot this some low. This is it was oh it is for the summer for this summer's here monday for labor dates regular morning show i know officially what's officially the richard gere. I believe really pretty sure twenty-first the end of summer that's how he's right now the name of it and all that monday's agreed started the radio daisy. I couldn't agree more new radio year tomorrow morning so that said the time in the world twenty nineteen eighteen. You started two thousand nine with the morning. I'm just trying to think of where you're at now. You're starting a new radio year on tuesday with our sorry. Did i know but the new radio year be eleven years ago <hes> hell of a run disgusting. It feels like ten minutes yet. Doesn't that's a really good yeah. That's good then doing something right when i think back to the days with boomer and craig before carlin was still doing ironically enough that feels like a long time ago and his longtime guy but when i think about how fast eleven years has gone in this in this time slot yeah it's it's nuts a little different from what i think back to having worked on the show behind the scenes or ten years ago now feels like a long time ago. If you weren't with me nine charlie was. I thought you were a little <unk> after that. No i started with carlin in august of two thousand or september of two thousand eight fresh out of college and then you took over january of oh nine and we had a year together we moved here october nine to manhattan and then by the end of the year you were telling me it's time to get out what was trying to do something like what you're doing now everybody everybody used to say. There was one word you would say when i get i get frustrated in an aggravated with the way things going. Finally finally i remember something that you don't that's good. What did he say. Steam steam steam steam was coming out of my ears. I'm i'm here longer than ten years thirty something thirty three wow time stops for no one joe as we all know what ways stones once that's right. That's right indeed. Let's get started here brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. Nobody three no start to the home. Stand with a sweep leap of the indians six straight losses later louise's georgi kimbrel ready now the pitch swing hard hit grounder on one hop to second get russell. Has it throws to first in time. The ball game is over the chicago. Cubs have swept three-game series from new york man injected out your own son w._c._b._s. eight gives you the pope. Rose is the get the man i mean. He's a met fan. God bless you howie. I love you i really do i love them we all do jim is tremendous pretty cut and dry ballgame solo homer for j._d. Davis and victor kartini had tied at one into the seventh couple of singles angles had jacob degrom facing kartini again to on one out a one to count after khartini fouled off a fastball and changeup so degrom comes with the slider. He left it up. Karatina deposited it into the second deck in right to go ahead three run shot cap the scoring cubs win the game four to one pitcher first home run <hes> slider up ooh somehow he kept it fair so <hes> tip my hat to them again. No margin for error for two grammy falls to eight eight the mets only managed one baserunners the rest of the way five hits on the night two of them from wilson ramos who extended his hitting streak to twenty two games so six straight losses they fall five back of chicago in the wild card race phillies brewers adama backs all ahead of them now to some thoughts for mickey callaway. You've got to continue to grind it out. These guys can do something special. <hes> i know they believe that they show it every day. Even when we lose they don't give up. Don't give up giving but he doesn't sound positive. How could you told mike we need a miracle. Yes that's true. I didn't even know that one thing about making that you like you don't like is he seems like a pretty honest tells you thinkin. I'm sure mickey's defying guy and i and i still think he's going to be managing that you. I just i don't know why i think he is. I mean if decently era era see what happens at the end of this again. It wasn't van. He's not van wagon his guy so he's not and as we learned yesterday with the scouting director turf your guy watch your bags out. I hear is mickey. Pre-game asked about the idea of this one having been a must win says he doesn't believe in that until it is statistically the cato. We know if you get to it. You're gonna be mathematically out of it right and the day before that will be the one where it's win or you're. I'm gonna need another big run to get back into without starts tonight. First of three with the phillies at citizens bank got zack wheeler opposed by air nola elsewhere. The diamondbacks roughed up young jin ryu and the dodgers eleven five also mack max muncie out until next week for l. A.'s got a hand injury hit by a pitch the other night pirates out slugged the rockies eleven eight padres of the giants five to three marlins beat the reds in four three but a record-breaking night for cincinnati's rookie sensation keno sucks one deep left field. It's way back and edit is gone. He's done it again to home run for our s._t._d.'s keno two-nothing read his radio alva- alva- well that's fourteen this month. I don't know what he has total unless they're all in this month i can check that for your was alvarez on some sort of pace. I mean he's i numbers are worth sixty games. Were absurd. The knee was he on pace to have basically an r._b._i. Game perhaps abc's got. I think sixty two r._b._i.'s in sixty games or something like that so a keno is hitting three thirty with fourteen homers. It's all this month okay fourteen homers and thirty two r._b._i.'s. The is in twenty seven games so he is very slightly. The home run every other game pretty much american league twins set the major league record for home runs on the road in a season ten five win of the white sox raised up the astros nine eight the snap houston's winning streak at six. You had the as of the royals also nine eight final indian shut out the tigers occurs to nothing to complete a three-game sweep. Mike clemenger ten ks over eight innings. He's ten and two for cleveland and the mariners scored twice in the night to beat the rangers five to three yankees are back home from they're they're five and four road trip and a day off open six game homestand with three against oakland c c sabathia grit anderson tonight. We'll have pre game on the fan six twenty five aaron boone with j._j. Embarked here on the fan yesterday discussing aaron judge's resurgence woke up his bat out on the west coast six homers in the nine games including five over the last six. I think thank you found some things just subtly mechanics that <hes> have really put him back into getting into really good hitting position was fourteen for thirty nine on the trip to six homers three doubles only one walk which is unusual for him tells you he's obviously taking a more aggressive approach against these opposing pitchers. There's anthony and belleville with joe and jerry and chris us on the fan what's up man anthony when angel recco and press the old man. Hey you guys just think about that. Watching boomer and geo is like watching the yankees. You never know who's going to be in the line up. Guys get the job done. Oh yes that's a great analogy and like it that does is that no no no. Maybe <hes> you know what i mentioned about the yanks. I miss edwin carr nice yawn walk into parrots. Maybe you can do that for me a little bit about that me to walk the walk the parrot we see a a couple of weeks ago for god. That's where i'm anthony no. He was at the last supper game you okay that was what towns in jersey right yeah where the heck were paramus. I was a thousand miles thank you. That's my neck of the woods nine spotty address because there's always gets on anthony addressing poorly i recall he had some interest cooler shirt on pooley anthony no no. I don't know why because i bring it up because i defended you in that. That's right task. I will continue to he had a pizza planet t shirt on toy voiced very good jerry planet very good. Yes from toy story. I thought jerry's kids are too far removed from that actually like those movies tremend- did you see the fourth one i have not. I think regard thanks dude <hes> more outstanding. He's my favorite before it and i'm. I don't know why we haven't well your kids. Are i mean you have yeah okay. Well a nine neural to go three three change. You got three two one three and four months four months. Two boys jason jackson beat me happy. You got two boys. You're saying my wife would beg to differ. You know well. You know when when when the kids are like fifteen cents. That's a different now where the the girls are between twelve and seventy two tough age. It's wow the hell happened yeah. My friends are like they're just just crush. Yeah like their little girl doesn't want to even know them. I know my does change. I'll say it changes when they get older and it's like a roller coaster. It's almost like the guys go the other way of course and the and the girls are kind of <hes> even close to top. How's your experience. Twelve is the age when it all changes for the girl your daughter's twelve now this summer the the i i got an a soon to be eleven year old granddaughter okay in fact birthdays day before me okay okay my birthday's twenty six september. She's the twenty fifth you're going to be eleven and and i always bust the now he's name is simone and said mon. You're maintenance. Level is going maintenance. Level level is moving up and she goes. What do you mean going up. This is sam nunn is i was gonna say sam stands daughter just had a birthday it yesterday penelope. She's five mary nice so she's not quite she hasn't hit the high maintenance shit and be quite rainbows and sunshine kind of good stuff. Luke void set to return from the i l. tonight should be in the starting lineup. A boon did say geo or shell has grown yesterday still sore he was in for treatment and they were sending him for an emory as well oh but still not thought to be a long-term injury n._f._l. Preseason finales giants the walk off and foxborough kyle led to alonzo russell the well-known alonzo the russell fourteen yard touchdown pass on the final play the game set in the giants pass the patriots thirty one twenty nine the giants through it fifty six times in this game we played the atom gays cut the other fifty six pants pill through forty so gays job with the meeting. We're gonna throw it fifty five times minimum of the jets through it. I think forty six the giants number aspects sure short complete shot down a lot of scorn now now so anyway. Daniel jones got the start. He was four for four forty seven yards and he differences playing as q._b. One thinking about going into the game. I think it was pretty. It was pretty similar and just try to <hes> try to make sure i was <hes> you know in a position to to move the ball. Shurmur says it was good practice for the future important for him to go through the week and mentally go through. That process says okay. You're the starter and you you come into the game knowing that he's down low. Let it may have been playing for a roster spot. He showed well twenty. Two of forty. Two hundred and forty seven yards couple a couple of t._d. Passes each week and <hes> you know feel ready to go and <hes> just wait. I'm opportunity and and try to make a play you know when one play at a time now and that and that's what it took a game that giants cowboys in the season opener from the jerry dome there jerry jerry's world a week from sunday and most likely zeki. Oh elliott jones last night saying he expects zeke to miss multiple games even if he signed today. I don't think he's playing wouldn't think i would throw them out. Marshall faulk down there and kaba working out right now. Is that where he's working with marshall point down there to to keep him in his mouthpiece said he had some workouts for him that we're going to make him sick. I think right here saying that that's fine football a ball shape guy staying shape getting hit and going through the crowd like lori so like lady on bell went summer i mean how much did he get hit in practice but he was was asking accident guys. He's begging for it. I know i still wouldn't play him until yeah. I mean there's no. There's no rush obviously when he's gonna be signed if he gets signed so you think there's potential from the missed the whole year. Oh i signed. He's under contract. I know what you mean yeah well. You know what i'm so you think we could would have led by midseason. It was going to be the if you asked me when i think he'll sign will be sometime late in the season if you're asking me if i think it's it's possible he could miss this season. I definitely put a percentage on it for us. Fifty fifty that he plays okay at metlife as you mentioned jet shut out the eagles six. Nothing luke falk outplayed outplayed davis webb in the third quarterback battle. The reason i say that too is that i don't think the jones family is going to give in on this. I think it's going to be who's going to hold out now you wanna. I told me the cowboy's star owen three might change things a little bit. Yes i'll continue to say i think the team is built around their defense and they can't sign online and they can't which is why jalen smith taking the daily took last week helps them immensely and if they can have team sledge player-friendly deals. That's what they're trying to do is maximize ars around as they can't right because those guys are up next and they'd like to keep them so. It's a complicated situation but i don't think the jones family is gonna give in gotcha kicking picking situation with the jets a problem taylor berta let good from twenty three and thirty nine but he missed from fifty three fifty six and forty nine adam gates though says it wasn't all on him relate coming out twice. It doesn't help kicker when we're trying to get in rhythm. You know we'll just keep going through what over talking about tomorrow as personnel department roster crunch brunch on the way for all teams. They've got two days four p._m. Eastern saturday to get their rosters from ninety two fifty three which mathematically means. You've got over eleven hundred players. They're going to be losing uh-huh right and then a lot of them will be reshow practice. He'll be signing some defensive backs. That'll be putting us that waiver claim waiver about the coaching staff decide like who you're going to keep and what forty seven guys. You're going to be talked about this morning on the morning on the warm up. That can't be yeah yeah but i i mean i have to imagine that i understood. Everyone backs a chunk of it. I'm sure i do have to be made this point. Five five spots max why thought on the broadcast last night compass media networks. Danny white was talking looking around that he made a good point an interesting one. I never thought of he said there are in certain cases. Guys will make roster just because you feel like there's a team that has the need for that player and you want to keep them away until they fill that voice that makes there's like there's a lot that goes into more so than just i would not want to be. I would not want to be a n._f._l. Head coach coach. I mean that is just job. Is you know it's i mean with this. Guy's never sleep. No with the roster's. G._m.'s are obviously heavily involved involved and the other thing is yeah the other the waiver claim period where you set that initial fifty three and then you're going to be changes to would immediately force and that's part of the strategy as well which guys can make it through so you can get him on the practice squad so yeah. It's definitely interesting coach office. Your heads got a spin the next three or as you're adam gazes what you live for and why is that why you don't sleep and you cut out of the hospital a couple of minutes after he's guys. It's in your blood coach your coach. There's no doubt about dolphins named ryan fitzpatrick fitzpatrick starting quarterback. Here's first year coach bryan floor who felt like this was the best move for this team going into the season you know ryan's on a really good job from a leadership standpoint from an execution standpoint and we feel like that's the best thing for this team. This is obviously a blow for one josh rosen josh rosen for great but at least for me the battle competition ever stops <hes> i mean i'll push in every single day for him to get better and if he doesn't get better totally surpassed men some point has had wanted a great careers for a guy who has been a you know a marginal starting core journeyman. I mean he's much money. Has this guy may money. I mean it's unbelievable. I don't know the total number of teams but he's about to become the first quarterback ever to start art for eight different teams eight. We played the jets. He played for ami. He played for houston cincinnati early industry. I don't know if he's ever started a game for the bengals well. He may have at some point eight different about this alleged years with the rams at some point career. I could be wrong about that. Jerry chat everywhere list again again. We bills socks often. The dolphins heightens saint louis buffalo. Oh tennessee houston tampa miami eight okay so then he will have started for all of the career goes. I mean really i mean twelve twelve games for the bengals really well. I forgot about that in two thousand eight. He how many games they start for the rams three go figure. He's the guy who's been like you said a journeyman. Yes very much so he gives you those those pockets of brilliant she saw it last year even got jets when he came in we well yes but when when he came in with the world on dry conscious thirty five forty eight games with the bills and a three year stretch but against him a big contract renders games against the chance well some horrendous games forty jets especially in boston. That's the u you are right. That was it that that's fading joe beningo okay and that was the last began the jet supply three years ago four years ago. It was a totally new show a total. Oh my god disaster can still see the railroad can still see who's a receiver that ate them up in that game but i can't think of sammy watkins yes oh my kitchen about ten passes game and it was all in stuff right and balls never made it never the justice just keep governed by yourself. Don't worry so about to begin the game suspension for the browns. He went for sports attorney's surgery yesterday in no time but better than now to get it done while you're sitting out his supposed to be fully recovered by the time he's eligible to return who's active westchester kareem. Hunt kareem hunt though yes. I guess i don't know where he would have injured had that happen considering. He missed half of last season with his off. The field issues speaking of off-the-field issues wilson chandler now of the net twenty five expansion. Yes the we can do it right now. Get the morlin. I'll give you the spelling spelling ready. I m o r l. I n yo i lost it. I like the beer m. o. R. e. l. i. n. I'm i'm assuming epa moreland all right so he says that during an injury rehab process before he signed with the nets he was prescribed a treatment that included small doses of of this substance that was recently added to the prohibited substance list did not realize it was banned neither did the doctor sounds a lot like the golden gate story minds the fertility part of that does he accepts responsibility politics apologizes to nets teammates coach some of detroit's everybody would be able to do this. Isn't that's not what that is. This is h._g._h. Ah i wish i had h h long swear by bro i mean i can only imagine i mean i'm not ready. Whatever whatever's gonna make me. Mike like my golf game better. I'm in your professional. Is it illegal. I don't know and it gives you have to go to canada. Get it. You know obviously you can't get it in this country can't can't he somehow legally upstate but i thought you could h._g._h. And to all a prescription yep our our fountain of youth that way to say sure i mean that was that one documentary that brings up all the time. I watch heard him talk about it. Then you go through the full allow and a half of the documentary waiting for where is it at the end that ah tells you that this is really dangerous doesn't end yeah and all it is. Is it tells you how amazing the effects the fact that we're talking about dangerous. There's got to be i don't specifically remember that but it's basically a bunch of college students and older people that take it and get tremendous clarity clarity and concentration and it's i believe but but you know what though every one of these you know you see these commercials for these drugs. Every one of these drugs has a downside like like you like. There's like they just think he gets the side effects in tampa commercial commercial. You may have suicidal thoughts full out aw i know it's crazy u._s. Open last night you had a fifteen year old coco golf advance winning three center crabs fired up there on the ash stadium stadium-court american qualifier taylor townsend upset the four seats simona. How by the way back to gough. She'll now face naomi osaka and the next round. She won his youngest player ear to reach. The third row is that right off at the fifteen can at least youngest female. I believe to reach the third round of the u._s. Open i thought so that one of the story avoided curios one again. It's always something with him so he comes out yesterday your college he's a he's a lunatic that i find it. Entertaining comes out with the collar pop than they had some sort of saying on the back. That was a play on nike's just do it. I think it was just do you okay and the chair well. I guess they don't allow that. They told him he had to put it down and he was like he yeah he goes. I'm refusing to start the match until you show me wearing the rulebook. It's really what happened. They they showed him in the rule book and he said okay okay and they played anyone all right. He's he's a piece of work. He's got something every time he does. I chris great job. Thank you very much forty eight on the fan and c._b._s. Sports network on a friday of labor day weekend. It's the morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomer and geo hour number three eight. Oh nine jerry and joe in for boomer age g on a friday morning roberts coming up at ten here on the fan. I want to read you something something kind of confused about it and i know you're gonna get nuts about it probably too but it is. It's the day and age. We're living in right now with football so this is from mike mike florio from pro football talk. I believe he's the one that wrote it first and then i've been yahoo so you know how passing interferences now going to be able to look at addin review and what a disaster that's going to be so i'm going to read you something. You explain to me what this means official n._f._l. Rulebook never used the phrase hail mary. It doesn't create as separate. Pass asked interferes role for the hail. Mary play what that doesn't stop the n._f._l. From applying different standards to those plays that are unmistakably characterized as a wing and a prayer on a deep high throw aimed at picking up a large chunk of yardage quickly meaning usually a score when you burn the game right now with an an interview with al or river on senior v._p. Of football there's another guy another guy stealing money. You know jesus to get i and again. I'm reading from the story here. First a different standard for determining pass interference applies to hail. Mary plays even though the rules don't provide for or allow it seconds atkins where it loses me second this same unkown defied standard for spotting pass interference in a hail. Mary setting will apply to replay review review of pass. Interference calls a non calls and replace. Was i mean i think two different things there so as i say run it by again. 'cause i'm a little you know. I'm law is number. One so different standard determining pass interference applies to hail. Mary plays even though the rules don't provide for or allow okay second second. The same unkown defied standard for spotting pass interference in a hail. Mary setting will apply to replay review of pass. Interference calls so it's okay so i think i understand what you're saying. He is so what the hail mary play is kind of a different set of rules. They let the guy's hand fight. Go up for the ball and nobody calls any which they should correct okay now they are. Is that what you're trying to say. Is that what they're trying to say. No way we're going to start calling interference caress on on knows place. That's where i got confused now. You're gonna really take back so i i. I guess what they're saying is. They're going to look at it. The same way uncoded standard meaning a hail mary. There's nothing in the rule book for it but i guess it's one of those unwritten rules. That's understood right okay so so so what supplied so it sounds to me like that said now you're gonna look at the hail mary like they look at any other pass play and past interference right sucker. I'm getting confused on it because that's how i which is another disaster if you're doing that for sure because i don't know how you look at how can you look at a play like that got under review and not find seventeen penalty and that's why i say you can't you gotta just let that play go say something sadeq area yeah well the way i looked at it when when and they're saying that when they review the hail mary they will review it differently than they review a passenger. Gonna let you makes makes no sense because they will not admit. I don't know how they have to admit that. It's a hail mary then they're gonna look. They're saying the quote i took from. It was a different standard entered for determining pass. Interference will apply to hail. Mary reviews okay well which is okay now then okay. That's that's it then. I agree with that. Because what are you reviewing them now but it's a very simply hail. Mary is very simple. It's gotta be a play at the end of the game that you're just chucking the ball or under the hands on or ended the half af chuck in a ball up in the end zone and it's a winging fair play and they're going to let the hand fighting go in that particular case. That's what it sounds like to me but it doesn't even yes. They should be more of a problem though now down more of a problem. It's one thing when you could say there's scrawny and the officials don't really see let's go. It's another thing if now you're telling me they might look at the play. Why you're creating more of a problem than the part is the n._f._l. Won't admit what the hell mary exists but we're gonna look at that differently. That's what i don't understand. I agree with you if they're going to look at it differently it should be that's ramle family this the the rule book in the n._f._l. It's painful and by the way river onto got of course the jets twice a couple of years ago when he jake came right not just that one and there was a game against carolina did the same thing tight end celerion jenkins. It was him and holds the jets twice river on twice. Thank you but but look uh the whole that the n._f._l. Is again in today and really it's been like this for years but it's more pronounced than ever now especially with all the stupid replay and everything and every play okay and we gotta get it right and all the you play now you have. You play two teams now when you play in the n._f._l. You played a team. You're playing player officials because the officials have just us. There's much say in who wins the game as the two teams that are playing each other and that is a sad commentary on a leak and to me. It's a major problem and the league doesn't want to look at it that way. The league wants more officiating which is unbelievable. They wanna put up. They want an emphasis on offensive holding. Hasn't there been an emphasis offices on offensive holding for sixty years. Now i mean what are we doing. Nobody wants to see two games decided by the officials and i guarantee you have two games in. This league decided buddy officials when you really break it down at least for me. I want the penalties to be agreed to be called of course now. You want what the penalty not only jerry agree gis but to be to affect the play guide. It's on the other side. You know he's on your decided field. That's holding on the other side of the field these all somebody that has nothing to do with the play and nicole and all the penalty that kills the play one of the worst ones. I've we've seen in recent memory and you've seen it. A lot is when you have let's say for instance a swing pass to the right side and they'll call illegal contact on the list fry like like an out patterns illegal. Contact penalties wanted to worse. I mean legal. Contacts should not be automatic first down. I agree it's fine. It's only five yards. Each should not be automatic seventeen. A guy gets look six yards fire. I i agree with you. I agree like i do understand why and how they have the rules but i'm with you. There are too many of them and the way they're enforced two different from crew to crew of course and also so from the different parts of the season like i've argued with boomer before game gets officiated the first few weeks of the season. They don't let anything go then all of a sudden you get in december and everything everything goes on which game isn't it and even in the playoffs playoffs the playoffs and we saw i mean we saw it into ram saint game. They weren't calling pass interference. It's all of a sudden. They were not throwing the flag on fear into playoffs which they shouldn't do but you shouldn't be. You should be doing that all year. It should be the same game <music> a week to week and let's be honest. I don't wanna hear this doesn't take away from you know what they've done but if you don't don't tell me the patriots don't get favorable whistles because they do. Let's let's cut the nonsense here. They getting calls or non calls. Other people are getting up. Sorry i suppose i don't and watch them enough to know yeah well i do. I do try a brooklyn. What's up man. You're jerry joy our you fellas. It's funny. You just mentioned that joe 'cause i was actually actually watching the giants and the patriots last night now <hes>. I don't really get into the preseason so luckily my emotions are pretty much in cheshire basically wrigley it was it was almost like a prime example of an ass backwards call because the giants wide receiver gets his jersey tug now you can clearly see when somebody's pulling on the jersey so the giants challenge that non coal which is the first time i saw this new rule right that call gets denied right okay obvious you can see the guys bring on his jersey right later run in the game and i don't wanna get too much into the whole patriots benefit in but i want it to happen to be the patriots later on in the game. You have another prime example example of what's known as incidental contact. The guys are both one in a little jockey and right right. Somehow the patriots benefit from a passionate coal so these guys already screwing up today mike if you do me a favor of bob. Can you see see what the preseason numbers are on the replay reviews. I mean it just google. It may come up on john pass interference because a lot of these teams. I'll bet you i bet to seventy five percent percent of the teams if not all of them have challenged a passing interference <hes> play this preseason either. Did you see how we're i think if i'm not mistaken and the cowboys over four all i think they challenge a pass interference on each game. I think jason guarantee for four yeah i have the numbers is from mike pereira before last night's game. What do you got. I said they were forty. Eight stops in the forty nine games of the forty eight forty five or coaches challenges and three. We came from upstairs with a replay official. Why is the boot review. He's got to go. I mean i don't boot through using the final couple minutes of the game what what that i was. I'm not arguing with you. You're asking if the coaches were the only ones that were allowed to challenge plays. I b. i b a lot but i don't want the officials. I don't need every touchdown reviewed. I don't need every every turnover reviewed. I don't need it in the last two minutes of the game. Now it's added a coach's ends in these powers. The brainiacs decide whether they're gonna challenge grocer now. Let me ask you a question especially if it doesn't interrupt the flow of the game if you had let's say you had an official watching the game in real time and he was able to move it back and forth and he was able to buzz down before the next play before it interrupted things if he saw something legit now oh hold on a second. Let me ask you this because ultimately i do think i get the whole human l._s. fine at the end of the day though kind of the way you want the balls and strikes with the computerize horizon so do i do want to get it right at the end of the day. If the jets are a big spot in a game and there's a clear miscall on the field and in your coaches out of challenges you wouldn't want it buzz to get all right now i can live with it better. Be yeah because then it be even though it ends the career. If it was up to me you had the coach gets three challenges three. You don't get to and then you get another one. If you get it right you get three you get three challenges and you gotta use them right and that's it. Those are the only things the coaches the guy that controls then it becomes spotted a strategy game. It doesn't hinge on these guys. The sidon in you know where we're going to buzz down now. I can't take that. I don't want that anymore. Look at college football every time you turn around challenging play. I said it's got to happen happened in the flow of the game and before the it's kinda like it's kinda like getting to the line of scrimmage and snapping the ball before they get the flag out. That's what i'm talking about. They got no and they've got to see it immediately and it's got to be buzzed down before the snap comes off as opposed to hold on because in college football. They'll buzz down. We need to look at this. They have no idea what their looking over five. Oh says forever college games on long enough to begin with. I mean something's egregious and they've got to have a decision but it's got to be quick and you have a hard time thirty seconds or have you can't tell them thirty seconds with all this technology on them. And how long does it won't. Do we see these guys. They look. They look you know. We see to play fifty times what it is. That's what these guys looking this way. They come back obvious and quick because it's not that obvious then that's all fine. Here's something else to don't have play what is going to be challenged and then you wait like like the play over and they'll wait a couple minutes right after the plays alva the and then say we're challenging the place now. You wasted another couple of minutes. You should have been challenging the damn player ready. I mean what are we doing. I just i it's terrible. I it it star officiating in the n._f._l. Is brutal gets worse and worse and worse people. Don't wanna cds guys <hes> control the game like they do. I'm tired of it. I i really am n._a._f. Too much damn control over who wins these games. I'm sorry too much heats the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and jio thirty bed at c._b._s. Sports network even the presi now while well this is in my this is my eagle eye cherry eagle. I it's not too bad. The sounds pretty cheap tonight. I texted my wife who we terry. She says that shirt that that chris is what you call the actual name yes yes to the call yellow that short that christmas wearing is that one of the new new golf shirts because tiger has this shirt line out or nike has the shirt line now with the collarless shirts tigers tiger whiz thomas for years by but it's it's been awhile but you see them walking them that much more now and you said it is not this is not. This is a hugo boss shirt. I do own one of those. I appreciate that it's the same style but this. I don't think this is meant to wear out on the golf. Course i mean you could sure it's black. It's got a little. It's like it's like a polyester so today. It looks good on eighty. Five eighty eight right sunny might not be the best day for it <hes> but i do have one of the nike ones in a light blue nice. I i just i'm. I'm just not big on like for me. I'm not big on to it. Looks good on you. Maybe but i'm just not me. It's not my the mock turtleneck tiger uh-huh masters all four days. You're hunt percent right. Terry terry cities guys on a tour goth now. I've got the closer talk fashion statement. All is no doubt all right eight thirty two chris loprestie through all the details of last night brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. Nobody anthony rizzo sidelined by some back spasms victor carotene taking full full advantage of some regular playing time he jacob degrom number last night at city field one hit high in the air deep to right could forego going back onto the track in front of the offense he jumps and he can't get it. It's a home run how he rose w._c._b._s. eight. Eighty solo shot tied the game at one in the second inning after judy davis had taken john lester deep deep in the first game remained tied into the seventh way into carolina came to the plate again to on one out he fell behind one to a couple of tough pitches away so to graham decide to try and come inside with the slider did get it in but he left it up and karatina hit a bullet into the second deck in right three run homer at turned out to be the difference in chicago's four one victory victory. They complete the three game sweep. Here's mickey callaway onto grams pitch selection. I was thinking right along with jake you know he he had him set up perfectly for backfoot slider swung right over it and <hes> he just didn't get it to where he wanted to get and that's what it's like for to ground pitching for this team. One mistake cost in the game because the mets just do not score for him. Consistently he falls to eighth year. Lester went six. He worked around five hits and three walks to give up just the one run cubs bullpen three no hit innings to finish it off craig kimbrel with the save save and he's the reason joe and i know you're right winning matters. I'm not saying it doesn't i know you always argue that with evan but he's the example why it. I don't know what it means pitcher anymore. 'cause relevant if you got not hitting the damn ball. I don't know what else you can do as a pitch also part of the problem is that now the seven leanings is now like a complete game. That's part of the problem too. I mean you guys are only going seventy. I mean he's not going to gain right. You know so. I you know whether it's them not scoring or the bullpen imploding i mean that's generally been the story for the one hundred percent you know here is on the road ahead and they gotta win. I think everybody knows that <hes> you know it's late in the season and we kind of dug ourselves out of all kind of put ourselves in a little more than a little six six straight losses to fall five back. The cubs for the second wildcard plus the phillies burgers and dhamma. That's all ahead of them now to make the eternal optimist group <hes> you know we we still have faith in ourselves. We have faith in this team that <hes> we're going to get the job. Done is lacking a little in the energy there and the voice song dance step isn't quite there to four extending his hitting streak to twenty two games onto philadelphia three-game set with the fills who lead the season series nine four zack wheeler other aaron nola in the opener. Do you would think so. You would hope so not the best ballpark for him to be pitching still be stunned if it was six. Nothing phillies the third inning. No i'm serious. I would be stunned. No the philly's i bumped up jason vargas. He'll pitch tomorrow on if it was six not to medicine at third inning to be honest anything can happen right. Stephen matt's vargas tomorrow afternoon and then marcus stroman zach eflin in the sunday night match pitching citizens. It's that's got fifteen. Four hundred bullpen shut out. Can you minded. Jerry's head exploded ultimately. Don't care that thing that happened to reporter that is really why guy because he's actually pitched. He pitched better saturday's straw manhattan. He's pitched okay yeah. He did straight for best anybody for awhile since he went okay. That's fine. That's fine. Oh i didn't know fields you might know made five starts for them. Anything z. raise four and a half inch the fine by the way you being such a an an well okay that an anti analytics guy so so this was brought to my attention nicer someone on twitter to pass along to bring this to your attention. Thank you saw this last night. I don't know what s and why throws up a graphic. One of these stat cast just a is we saw this. I'd never seen yeah so. It's the largest difference in extension between changeup and curveball pitchers. There's a difference between release point and yes so degrom leads the way a ten inches to other at five syndergaard at four and you boy matt's maybe that explains some of his issues only one inch difference too much. I don't know what to do with that. I really don't what your baseball coach. I don't know what it means to me. You want extension on missile people that just have too much time enhance. I mean i really think i i think that the analytics these are guys <unk> who wished they could've played baseball but had no ability so what they though now like us but we're not seeing them but i'm not we're not gigs to the point that were sitting there. Breaking down. Launch angles was sitting there with exit veal. How's your extension because right now. We're talking about expansionism. I mean come on. That's what i'm talking about. I'm not talking about looking at a game and say this guy stinks. It's not now these guys are going beyond that because they're going to show you how smart they are and it's plenty <music> out there and it makes me crazy. It's not for me by any credit. I don't. I'm not obviously guys guys guys like exit villa. I find that identity one new one that i do. I like expected that the damn ball because i like to see a guy screen a ball up or not. That's all you title wrong. Can i say this kid. I tell when i watch say they have no seriously i can tell the analytics. I'm not smart. I'm not intelligent like these other guys. If now that are ruining baseball that i'm not a smart guy deng guy. I'm stupid. Okay okay legal guys leagues. None of you guys now. I'm not i admit it. I'm below you guys. I'm star. I am i pay homage to of your greatness in you're brilliant and all that but you know what fifty sixty something years whatever it is now watching baseball i can tell the difference between a bloop and a line drive. How about that and i don't need exit veal. I don't need launch angle. I don't need war. I don't need any of this nonsense that dip. I sally guy i think i i met a couple of no. No no no you did not meet. Bob is batting average for balls in play. Come on stop is. This is what i'm saying. Guys have too much too much time in. I think it's bad these guys. Did these people that need to get a life. Let's be real. They have have a life in the ring a lot of money doing well. That's fine but but you know what i give me a break. What's not played again. You know what we're going to get to a point where the brainiacs. They're so smart that they're going. I tell you stop. You ain't got to go play. You don't need plays anymore. We're just gonna have to win is going to figure long without playing a game. I don't need need to know the exit velocity but i do find i cool. I could kill it. Just like some people like the radar gone for a pitcher to be cool kenyans hell if he's throwing hard hard to know these throwing ninety eight on just dumb guy. I'm just stupid. I'm not i don't have the intelligence level clean yeah. You're right good point intelligence rookie mistakes of these people. I really don't and i just i the brilliant brilliant people and i'm just not in that league. Can you say won't be quiet brilliant about you your intelligence. I don't have the juice juice a dummy. I'm stupid. I'm you know i. I know nothing nothing nothing about baseball at all nothing. That's i'm just i just don't. What do i know <hes>. I know that the yankees are back home for nine gary six game homestand. Excuse excuse me which begins with three against the as tonight c c sabathia brett anderson the starters pregame on the fan six twenty-five aaron born of fan with j._j. In bart yesterday luis severino marino set to make his first start this weekend the armed feeling great boon looking forward to his return really excited about how he's how he's responded how he's doing and and his chance that really impacting us the seats should be for double a trenton on sunday who called us last hour saying they miss edwin encarnacion the parrot of course. I shouldn't forgot that so <hes> listening boone yesterday you could be seeing that again in short order. They'll probably go out and play a couple of games or at least get some bachelor. A couple of days could return as early early as next week or next week when we go back on the road giancarlo stanton and jordan montgomery working their way back to so balloons going to himself a lot of options here. The rosters expand expand. I think sunday sunday yes question gee or shell is still a little sore yesterday. He was in for treatment. They were sending him for an m._r._i. Just to check it out out. Boone said still didn't think it would be a long term issue n._f._l. Preseason finale is in the books. Thank god the giants with a touchdown pass from kyle. Let it to alonzo russell on the final play the game to edge the patriots up in foxborough thirty one twenty nine russell caught five balls for ninety two yards two touchdowns. One of the bubble guys trying to make an impact on the final final preseason game was very important for me is a showcase what i could do for the last final time a full cousins made in china switch. You know what i'm saying. The favors on my same could be said for low letter. Perhaps in the third quarterback battle. He may have been playing for a roster spot. He showed well twenty. Two of forty. Two hundred forty seven yards a couple of scores. Daniel jones did get the start four for for for forty seven yards. The pats actually played some names. Josh gordon was playing back from suspension. Julian edelman was in there because he's been out with a thumb injury and maria's maria's thomas who was activated from pop recently caught seven balls for eighty seven yards a couple touchdowns afterwards the media wanting some thoughts from bill belichick on his perform well <hes> among among the guys. You got a chance to look at. Were josh gordon and mary. Thomas delirious in particular looked really comfortable. We encouraged by what she saw and happy for him. Look at the film and see how it looked on first blush. Do you have any opinion at all. Would i'll take a look at the film. Go pound sand enough. Bill is just not nothing even put up there because he had a league mandated. Maybe we should do the press. Discoveries of course is really. He's been there forever the jets whose bear there's jerry he's like bill's personal p._r. Yeah he he was with is he technically like is he. The pats p._r. Guy or just for bill just really i think so within the context context of the team has is strictly super bowl also you can do whatever you want interesting by the way we did you see an update on was it's got simonson. Who had the touchdown catch the giants. I did not get a great thing it was him had a great touchdown. Catch on third down play diving for the ball ball in the end zone and then come couldn't walk on his foot <hes> that a carry them off. We have a cut in here from shurmur. Not wanting to speculate on the injuries can play that for you and see if he says anything i do that who say i'm not going to speculate on the injury. I don't know we'll see. I don't know who's hurt to what extent yet and how that will affect the roster. I think if i commented on that i'd be a speculating and i don't wanna do that the old ron rivera approach. I don't ask on purpose before. I talked to you guys to question. The giants cowboys a week from sunday. Jerry jones again yesterday with i. I don't know why this got picked up. He just said this on the radio a day ago and now it's like go talk to on that's fine but he said the same thing. Yeah happens i'm gonna do. I don't know it seems i mean the national guys are tweeting it out this morning. It's news. He said it on the air in dallas five through the fan on wednesday. Yes all right. Jets shut out the eagles six. Nothing luke falk l. Play davis webb in the third quarterback battle. Adam gay sas if they're even keeping three e._s. Trevor simian has the backup job sewed up as far as the second guy behind sam darnold discussing yet they have been avoiding. Davis webb was picked off twice sounds like like he's expecting bad news for the business before <hes> so <hes> just sit home and wait for a couple hours ago even never even got in a regular season game game davis webb now never know that's what happens when you're on the giants behind eli unless your name's gina smith dumbest moves in yeah kind kind taylor berta let a problem he did make from twenty three and thirty nine but no good from fifty three fifty-six forty-nine. I get it there longer but you know push comes to shove in the regular seasons in a big spot. You're going to have to make a fifty three. You go maybe to win games and he said i make these everyday in practice well. The game is in practice. This is only exhibition rosters do have to be cut from ninety to fifty three by four pm saturday the dolphins the last team with a quarterback battle to make their decision. It'll be ryan fitzpatrick week one in miami cammie. I'm always confident in who i am and what i am as a player but this is this is where i wanted to be what i worked together so obviously josh rosen the loser in that competition he did take the high road mate so <hes>. We're both dolphins and i'm rooting for him. As hard as anyone think. Rising tide raises all ships and i think our quarterback occurrence gotta wow all ships u._c._l._a. education right. That's pretty good both like dentists or something like that and i don't know if they're very successful individuals. Yes u._s. Open from yesterday. You had victory roffe on the dow. John is ner naomi osaka. Doc who will now face fifteen-year-old coca for the next round has goffin vans last night winning a three centered about two and a half hours. She was very excited. After getting jerry pointed out. I think the the youngest ever to advanced around three hundred fifteen years old hi chris great job the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo final hour on this is jerry poor palmer n._g._o. Grachev you're with us as we get set to labor day. Weekend started the show really very little on the baseball. I guess rightly so <hes> you got the yankees taking on the as tonight at the stadium and they certainly oakland <hes> some payback from a week ago and the mets some will say the season ended last night and it's hard to argue six in a row that they lose after taking the i three of nine game homestand but again another one of these games are jacob. Degrom is just molin guys down yeah. He gives up the home run late but the medoff francis nowhere to be found again but we've i've seen it over and over again. I mean it's it's a typical graham star. I mean every time they don't score any runs. He gives one run. He has fifteen and sixteen in a row. He looks dominate again. Thought jim then he makes one mistake and they lose the game or the other scenario always with jake ben same thing. Put your seven brilliant innings. They got a one run lead or something like that. In the bullpen gives a game up and this has been for for a couple years now. It's the same old same old with the ground. Yeah and it's unbelievable for this team now. Now they find themselves five games behind the philadelphia and i mean it's simple yeah you gotta go when these games. There's nothing i'll say it's it's kind of a position they put themselves in position listen to do something special and they have fallen flat on their face and the following really schemes bottom line is they stopped eating. I mean that's really go back to the cleveland series series last two games at series. They really didn't hit their last game. Was that rain-shortened game. They scored two runs to nothing game. Rommel's had a to syndergaard game right yeah right and since then it's five runs in that game <hes> the boston braves on saturday school at five and came up short and of course they scored seven and in syndergaards game ten one in that game so you know at any other games they just haven't scored and that's that's been the bottom line. They haven't really hit in this six game losing stroll. It's funny about the ten seven game you talk about. It's almost fool's gold that they put the runs. In bye-bye it's also a microcosm of what they've been in what they can be you can see the flashes of the offense unfortunately though when they get it back to where the comebacks attainable they didn't get the big when they and they haven't gotten the big hit and the previous six six games and so that's where we are with them as they fall five games out in the wild card race and tonight you've got zack wheeler going fills do he's at two terrible outings in a row ever since he had that fifteen game a fifteen inning school district run he had gone when it gets really was the marlins and white socks in the last two times out. He is not pitched well no and then the game 'em. I'm listen you gotta win tonight to the game. That scares you really is tomorrow. It's stephen mats. Mats and philadelphia has been a disaster but that that was where he gave up the eight run first inning the right. I think maybe one maybe one couldn't yeah the first innings vargas no less which makes it even more intriguing yeah before or you got stroman on sunday a sunday night game sunday night game cell and it's not too bad because it's labor day sunday night on the holiday the next next day so it's not really like a regular sunday night game very good point and that what the yankees again we discussed this earlier. They are what they are. They're one of the best teams in baseball. Take on an as team. That's fighting for for a playoff spot. The asia's handle them three times last week. I get the sense joe could be way off on this. Maybe the as we'll beat them three times again in a row i get the sense the yankees or going to blow them out of the award of this weekend well they probably will because they're not playing. The games in oakland and oakland has been their house of ours. I mean it was what twenty one hundred twenty seven oakland look the yankees right now al continue to say it again. Yankees are winning division. There's no doubt there coasting fittest division title as we close in on september and really. I understand home field. You know you want to home plan for home field. Yeah i guess they are. I don't know how big a deal they really look at it as being but the next really really important game the yankees he's we'll play. We'll be game one of the l._d._s. at yankee. Stadium probably against whoever wins the wildcard game and it could be oakland integrator won't be opens. There's no question that you get <hes> sobat. You got armand and you got hap- going this weekend and guys by the way pitching for spots postseason well right now to me. It's it's three guys that are in <hes> you know it's tanaka depending on what happens with severino i can't even still you can't even count on severino until you see an seeing him pitch again but but to me it's basically it's it's. It's three guys it's tanaka her mind and paxton guys it a pitching in the playoffs. Could you see i mean. I certainly could assuming on the roster. Could you see severino severino sabathia type of gamer severino half. I can see his severino pitching after the open say chat green opener. Okay i could see something like that. I was gonna use more severino the guy that's gonna start again knowing. You're only going to get a three innings out of them. We'll see what you're saying. Yeah i mean i could see maybe the opener and severino i don't know i don't know let's see severino wanna the amount of the game go well for him. As he started his rehab starts okay but i mean i i always liked till i see guy no matter who it is actually playing hang on on his team i can't count on him until that moment and lastly before we get back to the calls the football the preseason did end last last night jets and the giants yes. The entire league played last night and the big take for me. Last night was daniel jones continues to impress totally understand who who is playing against and what level and you know if it's the second-string third string whatever but fact of the matter is all you can do is execute and he is executed in spe has been in tremendous. He didn't miss a throw last night. I believe finished the preseason twenty nine thirty yet for five incompletions picks either no now. He's got a couple that could have been but but you're right no advocate fumbles. He was twice against the bears so we have seen that with him but look. I've said this before if he was not the behind night conic. You know all time franchise quarterback because that's what you i mean you say. Whatever you want the guys he's wanted to great giants rates of all time to me. The only guy him in my mind is lt but that's me if he was not in that situation there's no question jones would be starting against dallas else next week and i think and i said this before that by the time the plated jets and probably sooner but by the time they played a jets on november tenth jones. It'll be discarded. That's my feeling you might be right. We'll say well. He certainly looked apart and yet played i to me better than i expected in these preseason games in the limited action <hes> <hes> that he has had but he is certainly look terrific <hes> we also did it himself on the n._f._l. With <hes> with the penalty pass interference and the rules and all that so with that we go to joey in queens with jerry and joe on the fan what's up joe guys come morning guys. You're doing a great job. I love the show a week. Thank you guys. I was watching the cincinnati u._c._l._a. Game last night right. It's unwatchable now college football. There's a new rule that is so embarrassing. It makes the game on watchable. Remember the way hirings would would block on a quick screen jets and they aligned back around on the inside because the linebacker didn't have his head on a swivel so we'd make a great inside block on the way back like a blindsided in spite a clean block tonight. He's got like a third and seven last night late in the game. They wrapped the game up with a beautiful screen past all of a sudden. There's a flag they show the replay. The wide receiver ziva came over laid out the back perfect block shoulder right knock them down perfect to make the running back on may twelve fifteen penalty can't block on a defenseless linebacking looking. I'm not kidding. Are you serious. That's the new rule. You can't fly so if you're not looking at the guy is not looking at you even if you hit them head on kitten didn't you gotta just let them go by and talk a little running back. That's unbelievable he's supposed to do. I couldn't believe what i was like. I turned the game. I said i'm done you know what let me say right now. Thanks to call. It has a lot of issues with college football first of all the games that much too long to begin with because they stop it after the first downs. They moved it a little quicker but they stop it. After the first downs the halftime is a joke. I mean we need our half hour. Forty minute halftime god knows we don't need that that's so that's a part of it and they review everything everything and now you tell me that you can't even if you are even if it's a clean in block with the guy head on if he's not looking at you. You're gonna throw a flag come on an almost sounded fake. It seems so riddick. I mean now. I'll start watch college football. You know probably watch the louisville notre dame game monday night. That's probably the first game. I'll be really into you know because the first weekend here's most of these games or i know you had utah b._y._u. Last night which was a pretty decent matchup conference matchup whatever you wanna call it. I guess they're in different conferences references but still they are in different conferences but that's that's a decent match up but i will probably watch louisville notre dame because i i kind of like notre dame a little bit but but i mean that's the college football they. The games are just too long and now you're going to have these pe a penalty like that. Come on. Here's anthony westwood with janssen doing good guys. How are you good good. I just want to if the mets to make the playoffs you you think calloway will use d. as an opening and bringing syndergaard later to avoid the synagogue blow up joe your thoughts. Are you serious. You're kidding all right. No you're not serious your met fan y. You obviously are not a yankee serious so yankee fan no he was that was a serious quite no he's not. I don't buy that for a second that he was serious and he's probably yankee fan. Who's just trying to be funny. That's if you want my feeling screened the call. I wasn't going to put them on until i realized that that he was seriously he might have. I and this happens all the time and i don't care who screener is these guys can can fake it to the the point where you think this series and it's not sense the syndergaard blow up what does that. He had one bad. The guy had one bad start in the last two months now completely wrong time time but i mean what does that rosa who's rob in new hyde park rather than what's up this morning. Thanks for taking the call guys. I got two points first first of all. I think you guys are underplaying the importance of home field advantage. All i'm not rock comes for the yankees in houston years ago. The only reason they didn't beat the astros right that was number. One and number two is jelly call about a month ago. I said you can't get your hopes up with these benson. You went off on me and here. We are after a well. You know what robby you know what you're right. I'm not going to say you're not you're right. I want you guys to get your hopes up all these. I'm the wilpon. Don't get you over that. This has nothing but hold on at this by this run has nothing to do with the wilpon his six game losing streak doesn't either. I'm sorry here's here's an interesting point for the mets. You guys had the n._l. Cy young award winner last year and this year gonna have the rookie of the year guys always have these one standout players but you can never put it together as a whole. That's ownership that the world series for years. I mean first of all for the first time he's obviously he's not a yankees yankee eh to which is fine but he's but he just can't stand the mets and i don't know why because the mets aren't even like an stratosphere of the yankees but that's fine. I get it okay but the point is that for the first time in i don't know how long i look at the mets with a bunch of young position players that this has been a homegrown position players okay which is really what they are outside of davis who i actually look at it and say wow we got something going in the future future here. I don't know if alonzo's going to be the same guy next to you. I don't know that i don't know if mcneil's gonna continue to hit like he's tony gwynn. I don't know that but i look at it and i say well you know. We got some guys here where i got. It's not just now. It's always about the pitchers the pitches the pitchers they got to five or six core position players going forward young guys that i think are going to be around a while so i mean i look out in the first the wilpon not deal with the wilpon so i mean there's no question about that but i can't lay now just like going to get the wilpon credit for the mets going twenty seven and ten out of the all star break and i'm also not going to give the wilpon credit for losing six games in a row now that has anything to do with it. At this point in the season eats the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo nine thirty <music> on the fan c._b._s. Sports network chris lopresti has been all in all week and you're going to wrap things up for us at brought to you by the ray catena auto group rive in style and a jaguar bhagwat s._u._v. schedule a test drive at the jaguars edison and jaguar marlboro with the immortal victor kartini delivering the knockout blow to jacob degrom and the mets last night a second bias at first one out one two carotenoids smokes one down the the three one shot to put the cubs in self gary cohn s._n._l. Why did not get the slider down. He certainly got an eye off the bat. I could not believe where that bowland. I thought that was a missile. Without now i blink into the second deck and it was the difference in the game four one cubs to complete three game sweep degrom trying to take it. All in stride is frustrating but you know we play again tomorrow. <hes> we got meaningful game so <hes> these guys have done a good job of coming in every day and getting prepared deploy although homers from karatina jay davis had the game nodded at one into the seventh john lester worked around five hits and three walks to only allow the one run over six and after carolina tamie three-run shot the mets got nothing done offensively just one base runner across the final three innings and that baserunners reached on an error by chris bryan craig kimbrel closed the door in the ninth ninth micky. Calloway's offense continues to struggle cantwell on it. Though you have to move on we say this every time we lose <hes> do you you just you you really do you have to move on regroup. We'll get to go to philly and take care of business. Mcneil rosario and alonzo combined to go for ten in the game. Wilson ramos did have a couple of hits to extend his hitting streak to twenty two but the mets have lost six in a row. They are five behind chicago for that second. Wildcard spot ricki ricki mickey not ready to give up still time to get themselves back into the rain group. <hes> you know we still have faith in ourselves. We have faith in this team that <hes> we're gonna get the job done. You don't need to start with a big weekend against the phillies at citizens bank zak with a proposed by by error noah in tonight's opener elsewhere the diamondbacks rough up the dodgers eleven five young jin ryu suffered his third straight losses e._r._a. Up nearly a full run in that span pirates outslugged iraqis rockies eliminate padres five giants three the marlins of the reds in twelve innings four to three the story there though cincinnati rookie aristide's aquino broke the national league rookie record for home runs in a month want with his fourteenth american league the twins continued to hit home runs at a record pace own a big hit early in this game he hammers deep to centerfield back it goes. It's near the track at the wall. That's gone twins. Go back to back cave now. Krone eight nothing in the third pro twins radio j. cave added another later iran three long balls in the night for minnesota new major league record for home runs on the road in a season and they are eight away from breaking the overall record set by the yankees last year minnesota twins the white sox five absolutely no no no no shot different teen agree in the same collection of players they would make the playoffs they'd be out. Quick this team though so little different elucidate yankees they'll lose. John was on this team. Jonathan scope was kessler. I don't buy them. That said that i don't buy them. That doesn't mean d._a. Jake krohn doesn't mean couldn't go on to run and make it to the world series because it's such a crapshoot in the playoffs but i just i have a hard time buying twins pitching to get that done right right raise rates as his <hes> samantha nine eight raise the astro either rewrite that one the streak at six teams cleveland right now cleveland in the off say oh who's gonna who's minnesota's three and a half up right sounds take a quick look at the clue ramirez injury at by cleveland before i by minnesota yeah i mean and he'll be back probably towards the end into the regular season right but i think it would show me something. Minnesota held them off. Look look look the twins. I got nothing against twice but i just i can't buy two twin. I just can't cleveland even up one and a half on oakland and tampa bay just a game back of oakland. It's tight austin time five and it's not not happening as beat the royals oils are indian shut out the tigers to nothing to complete a three-game sweep mariners scored twice in the night to beat the rangers five three yankees back to work tonight strong game homestand the as come in for three and then they got three against the rangers see sabbatical brett anderson on the mound pre game coverage on the fan six twenty-five couple more from aaron boone with j._j. A._j. bart here on the fan yesterday asked what the hell he's going to do. As far as the lineup goes once everyone gets health look any time a really good players is not in the lineup. <hes> you expect a little bit. You know guys to be upset and that's part of what makes them special players that being said but also feel like <hes> there's a there's a bigger thing we're all we're all all after here and i and i would expect everyone to be on board with eye on the prize. You've got luke void coming back tonight team really does i you don't get the sense anybody going to bitch and complain if they have to take a seat one day for someone else no no question especially at the rate of which guys have gotten injured this year a little rest here and they're probably not the worst and and and you know it helps also because everybody is contributed everybody. It's it's unbelievable by the way people poke fun at the yankees and the home runs and yankee stadium being a bandbox right. Every every place is a bamba sixty nine home games for the yankees share that one hundred eighteen homers sixty six road games one thirty two so they've hit more on the road the senator to twinsies every stadium now is a bandbox because juiced baseball game or stunt. It's unbelievable we had last night at city until takara teeny hit the home run the second one other baseball note octavio tell louise castio who were involved in that situation the dominican republic they are off the hook. A judge says there's not evidence to link the former mets to a drug trafficking and money laundering ring so they have their name through the mud. Oh man oh man page yeah well unfortunately in this world anymore everybody's guilty until proven innocent young man. It's a sad commentary true n._f._l. Preseason finally over giants get a late touchdown pass final play the game actually kyle led it to alonzo russell his second t._d. Catch the game they top the patriots and foxborough thirty one twenty nine la lettre in his quest to make the roster oster twenty two of forty two forty seven couple of scores daniel jones got the start. He was four four forty seven yards. You'll have giants cowboys one week from sunday jerry's world and he was out out there last night again saying that he expects ezekiel elliott to miss multiple games as his contract dispute continues the jet shut out the eagles metlife six nothing the big takeaway here the continued struggles of taylor berta lead he did make field goals from twenty three and thirty nine yards but he missed from fifty three fifty-six forty-nine adam gays though giving them a bit of a pass he was asked about his confidence in the kid is good. I mean it just to those. I just saw guys running out late. You just can't do that to the kicker. Can't we can't buses rhythm like that it. Of course he's gonna say yes and that's the jets have never beaten eagles in a regular season game. Never that's how many times that much i think they're like. I don't know eight. Maybe something mike dance still not great but i'm just the only team that they've never beaten and they play again this year in philadelphia. <hes> i'm not sure one hundred percent win. It is but they play the games is at the lincoln. All over says five craft on okay so there you go october sixth tober six eagles <hes> assum after row brown's patriot play now. We played a cowboys really. It'll be like playing jerry jones. If fact they'll probably be more cowboy. We've fans at metlife than it would be. Jerry jones some first half a good thing. Though is you get the pats out of the way early because as we know they turn on the blasters astor's until december. I want to go into the packet well no. I'm just saying well two times in four weeks. Yeah what do you mean pets patriots. You'll get at at least to get him out of the way. Now i get once once. They're going to win the division like i say you're not winning vision but dole will never mind them doing yoga last night on the sideline during the game he's i. I did see the video next on the hell. What is he so someone tweeted out the video. This morning and brady re tweeted it and it was like what's so funny any links julian edelman brady completely different world than most people yeah as do most most of these kinds of melbourne him. Come on yeah absol- stay. I'm this is old news on of joe saudi that they will put their house masters thirty nine and a half million dollars. That's it that's not the house. You'll bob is just bought. They bought some house. I don't think that i don't think they could have sold a couple of weeks so he's selling his house is going to be his last year and he said listen on a house is priced that high where it takes a little while ago. Gotta have a place in city right don't know but maybe they're looking to upgrade in the city spent the all. I think they're looking to buy a house down in the islands some way too. Many house knows california travel a little little bit. I guess dolphins name ryan fitzpatrick week. One starter cannot contain his excitement as he gets set to play for his eighth teams trying to be the best version of me that i could be every day and trying. I wanna be a guy that was going to be able to lead us and i'm really excited for the opportunity. I mean josh rosen begins. The season as the backup challenged me pretty early in training camp as i wasn't playing doing very well because i was just sort of drinking water from a fire hose. Just sort of i think i responded pretty well. It was the one last hour he said ship rises in the in the a string cheese or something like that comes out fast from the hose and you kind of laughing at it almost like a dog like you're struggling to keep up. I think it's what i've learned a few things this week shining light in what fish fish and now drinking from a fire hose bang. We'll see how long fits can last as the starter this time around by by the way. I don't know if you guys. I apology know how it is. Jerry don't kiss hard to hear the show other newsroom. The miami herald has some juicy details on the dolphins. Texans trade negotiations for j leaving home. Not we've not discussed houston reportedly offered cloudy and a first round pick to miami now they wanted laremy tunsil back left tackle so the dolphin said no but the report said multiple dolphins players would revolt if the team traded tunsil and there could be a full on mutiny so they wanted allotted tunsil get cloudy and i and the dolphins said no wow i wouldn't touch cloudy applauded him with the jets. I said a million times. He's one of the most overrated guys in the n._f._l. I just he don't want any part of none to other n._f._l. Wants foia royat so mcadoo josh mccown as you know with the eagles now he's gonna of course once so before he returned he was. I guess coaching high school football down in charlotte north carolina you saw this. The sun is like a backup quarterback on the team and the eagles are going to allow him to continue to go to the games on friday nights because the way their practice schedule works out. He's gonna fly or uh. I assume fly back to charlotte be there for the games friday nights and make it back saturday going to drive now to them. That's cool yeah interesting forty a year old. He gets a chance to still be around his family. Jets play the eagles like like wentz will be her and mcconnell item up. Wouldn't that be fitting. Sewell's expecting fitzpatrick delight him up to patrick. I don't plan planning anything be starting. Quarterback jets game so i think rose. It'll be playing by then. We'll see the seahawks obviously didn't play russell wilson last night but a p carroll allowed him i think in the second half or at some point had the headset on the call sheet he was calling in the place for gina smith and he called through a forty one yard touchdown pass a dash gino about it afterwards oh grape grape play caller very short course taking it very seriously the headset the call sheets you know intense. He's he's setting himself up for his next career. He knows what he needs. Vinny testaverde junior really did easy backup quarterback and one note. They may during the game which i never checked. They said the buccaneers have never re signed a quarterback. They've drafted really that would explain why they're interesting. You're saying because obviously jameis winston is going to be tony. Doug williams look say that was not in the game. I wasn't very good when he was in tampa. I'll tell you that not very good n._b._a. An arrest warrant issued for laker center demarcus cousins in mobile alabama on the misdemeanor domestic violence charge that we talked about was was it yesterday or two days ago nets forward wilson chandler suspended twenty five games without pay tested positive for a p. e. d. u. S. open yet victories roffe on the dalmahoy asaka. John is ner fifteen year old. Coco goth advanced winning three senators. She will next face osaka in round three in american qualifier taylor townsend upset the women's four seed simona simona halep that brings us to moment of the day brought to you buy resorts world casino in queens with over six thousand games. This is how n._y._c. rolls. What am i supposed to say for the moment of the day. It's only the third day of the day there you go l. and earlier. We were discussing kids of young ages and how raising adolescent girls can <hes>. That's the moment when the kids are like you know fifteen bickering two different now where the girls are between twelve and seven to age swatow happen for them and then my friends are like they're just just crush yeah like their little girl doesn't want to even know them. I now now i'll say does he get it changes when they get older and it's like a roller coaster. It's almost like these guys go. The other way of course and the girls are kind of even close to talk has your experience. <hes> twelve is the age when it all changes for the girl your daughter's twelve now the i yeah. I got an a a soon to be eleven year old granddaughter okay in fact birthdays a day before me okay okay. My birthday is twenty six but she's the twenty fifth. You're going to be eleven and i always boston. What's the now he said you know. My name is simone simone. Your maintenance level is going. Hey it's been a pleasure leisurely yet was that and then. She doesn't even understand why she asked me. I said this this is like we were together. We went to we were at the pool monday and we're told her about. It and you know i'm talking on my aaron. I'm telling my daughter about it and you know she's you know she's i said yeah i said mon you know you. Maintenance love is going up. She goes well. What do you mean by that. He's getting a little harder to deal with and that's really what it is chris girls so you don't have to trust me. They're at this age three dollars a handful. I understand that got energy energy. Yes exactly it's difficult with these hours is much more expensive. It takes it takes a long time for them have to get off the payroll that one doesn't sit back either pay the weddings. I remember i remember that. They got off the payroll yeah. That's that's not necessarily the case right then were great holiday weekend to all the law all of it quarter to ten. We'll come back with your calls next on the fan and c._b._s. Sports network.

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T. well go with brad for the full hour. <hes> obviously i'm dragging a little bit here today got in about two a._m. Last night from five days in vegas and we all know all that can go got signed up for all the contests got catch up with some people got a visa spot and studio so a good time to be had out there instant city and if you are heading out there for the super contest circa million golden nugget anything like that vegas <hes> biggest medics tony over at football contest dot com are are preferred proxy service here on bloomberg radio. They've been very good to us over the last few years. I'm sure they'll be very good for you as well. So if you live outside of nevada you can still sign up for the contests. However you do need a proxy to put in your picks for you so we trust mattie and tony over football contests dot com and you should as well as you know this edition of bloomberg radio presented by our friends over at the sl sportsbook be be the number two hundred is that promo code one hundred percent deposit mashed potatoes for the sports book one hundred percent deposit match bonus for the live casino at that the s._i. It's only a game until you bet hopefully. I started a little bit different today. Hopefully a little bit better her today after doing the show on my phone the last three days keep in mind that the blog talk radio recording that goes to i tunes usually uncut. If the volume's william's really bad i'll make an edit but the segments over on our speaker page that also go to spotify iheartradio google podcasts as well as a separate. I do channel those are edited four volumes than anything else that goes on here on the program so keep that in mind in terms of the audio quality the segments usually better because because i have to cut them anyway so just do some audio editing and things of that sort. Let's go ahead and bring on today's one and only guests professional. Hey together brad powers from bradpowerssports.com power sports dot com today man what's going on how you doing on a sign thursday. I'm tired then it was <hes> it was a lot out there in vegas. I also record high yesterday of a hundred and ten so you know it was usually go out there in july but it felt like july out there this past week yeah i i mean i'm used to this point now. I've been here three plus years but <hes> yeah i mean i. It's it's vegas. Maybe i mean it. Can you can get that even yes. I remember going into the game a couple of years ago. This is like october twenty first and it was one of those afternoon start times in the high with ninety and and that was active over <hes>. I told me like the twenty seconds a couple of years ago. It was a bad i mean the i prefer ninety over twenty five and wind blowing blowing snow. Oh yeah yeah. I don't blame you. I mean my wife leaves for work this morning. It's fifty nine degrees and she's like well. I need a sweater so you know i guess <hes>. I guess we got some getting used to it around here and fortunately for you on. They'll stay nice for a while not that you get out a whole lot here at this time. Dr got a sixteen n._f._l. Preseason as a game tonight and then all of the college football stuff going on. We'll start real quickly with the n._f._l. Pre season because i mean look obviously you're betting on backups third-string fourth string and types of guys. You're playing in week four any angles anything you're considering for this final round. A preseason match ups well. I mean this is a trend that that a couple apple guys <hes> on straight outta vegas radio show that i do daily and we kinda talked with this this preseason so i'm gonna give you at least <hes> you know stuff that you probably wouldn't wanna buck and right now trent so far fourteen one on one against the sprint and what we did is we took a look at <hes> the the coaches that value the preseason season and then there's four of them that have been traditionally very good in preseason. Obviously john harbaugh baltimore pete carroll seattle. Mike zimmer and and minnesota is one of them also jon gruden in oakland so <hes> and then there's two guys that that just obviously don't value the preseason dan quinn atlanta jason garrett at dallas and be blindly play on the four coaches that value the preseason and you blindly bet against those two coaches at dan quin and jason garrett against those guys because they don't value the preseason. You are fourteen one and one against the number so i can tell you what i wouldn't wanna buck tonight and that would be. I wouldn't go against baltimore. I know they're laying a big number on the road week four preseason but i certainly don't want anything to do with washington. <hes> i'm not betting on atlanta plus four against jacksonville. I can tell you that <hes> dallas i i. I know the big money coming on the cowboys. Cowboys look good last last week but i i'm. I'm certainly not gonna lay five points in preseason game with jason garrett and looking at a couple of the other matches oakland and seattle pretty much cancel each each other out and you know i'll tell you this. Dan clinton's you know is a guy that that <hes> i actually not dan quinn but but when it comes was it mike zimmer i mean he's. It's just been this season but it's been multiple seasons. Where exactly the pre season. I mean that looks pretty good to me. I know buffalo has been pretty impressive love so far but kyle slaughter i mean if we had <hes> you know if we had a hall of fame preseason quarterbacks i mean this guy is about as good as it gets <hes> right now my favorite one would probably be minnesota minus two and a half at buffalo tonight. These are a._t._s. numbers. These are straight up number and said i'm about to give you hear sean payton to an eleven in week for the new orleans saints head coach. He obviously doesn't care too much about week. Four and i mean it makes sense. It's not like drew brees ever sees the field in that situation gruden seven one week four. That's a very strong number novella. Check eight and eleven. Andy reid nine and eleven. Oh oh you've got justin garrett two and five and week four so he doesn't seem to care too much about that final preseason game or really the preseason overall as you mentioned mike zimmer how about this seventeen in two straight up the first three weeks three and two in week four so a little bit more of a fifty fifty proposition straight up there at least in week four but seventeen and to the first three weeks of the preseason so get. I imagine we'll see these strengths continue into next year as exhibition games but before we step away from the n._f._l. Brad i don't ask you this. Is there any carry over at all whatsoever from the preseason to week one of the n._f._l. Season now so it's like two it's like handicapping two different sports. I nothing really i think he used to be able to take a little bit because starters used to play a little bit more adam and the preseason so i i i mean if you rolled your starters out in the clay. You know a quarter and week one. You know maybe a quarter and a half week to the first half and we three. I i mean if you had like four quarters of data with your starters playing and they look like crap or vice. Versa looked really good. I maybe that could influence influence week one and a half point or so but the fact that a lot of these stars aren't playing anywhere near what they were in the past ten fifteen twenty years. I get nothing. I'm from that other than other than key injuries cluster injuries. I'm not carrying really over anything hard. Three transitioned over the college football side here and this is where i will stay for the rest of the show a lot of games. I'd like to get to here with brad because unfortunately we didn't talk a whole lot of saturday games early on in the week with our i three guests so we'll tackle a lot outta those today plus sunday and monday. I'll take a look at the the thursday and friday slates as well real quickly but before we do that brad any last minute updates any powering adjustments any position battle announcements that have caused a ripple effect in your numbers won't give you one from yesterday. I i think it's significant and involves what the team that i i had number. One in my power rings being the crimson tide of alabama. I think <hes> when you look at moses the middle linebacker i can make a strong case. That's their second most important in play on team obviously to being i i mean i get it jerry judy the all american wide receiver when the bulletin the cough award for the nation's best wide receiver a year ago i get it. He's tremendous tremendous but there's three other really good wide receivers on alabama so i his point might be only half point or so but when it comes to moses is this i mean he's basically the quarterback of the defense leading tackler a year ago. He's the alpha i if you read the articles and all the preseason workouts and whatnot i mean the the team leader on that side of the ball <hes> a guy that you know mentally talented preseason first team all american. I think he was in the top fifteen on mel kiper draft ford next year and alabama loses him. He's most likely out for the season and oh yeah it's already a position where alabama's lost two guys including another other projected starter in joshua macmillan earlier this year so now the crimson tide i i know you're not gonna hear any woe is me are feel any sympathy from from from alabama but it looks like by all intents and purposes. They're going to start to true freshman at linebacker. In the middle of the defense <hes> i don't think that's ideal and i dropped the alabama about a point point half yesterday and now for the first time in four years i have someone other than alabama power rated the number. One of my power ratings right now. Yeah i mean i. I haven't made any adjustment yet. I had clemson appoint better than alabama and my power ratings and you know what i mean also for alabama. I'm here this weekend and we we may touch a little bit on this duke in alabama game obviously taking some of the steam out of that with the dylan moses thing but also nausea harris suspended the first half bryan robinson suspended for the first half. This is the thing this will be thing here going into saturday. Somebody's going to get screwed over on a play that they've made because there's a suspension announcement right before the game going to happen. I'm surprised there weren't more of them for florida miami last week but this will be thing and and that's not to say that you want to sit there and wait on these numbers until saturday because the market is moving a little bit but just keep in mind and be cognizant of the fact that someone of of consequence we'll be suspended in at least one of these games somewhere yeah and there was rumors last week on the florida decide that there might be some possible suspensions. We didn't get much on miami until right before the kickoff for that game but you're exactly right now does that. I'll make you you know freeze up and make you scared. I'm batting anything. No i mean i i. I've been betting week one all summer long so i. I'm very happy happy with my current portfolio but with that being said it is week one and you know you. Gotta be very confident your power rings but let's be honest. I think even a lot of head coaches aren't one hundred percent sure what they're going to see when they roll out there eighteen nineteen year old kids here in a lot of their their first game experiences at the big time level well here so <hes> th they're certainly when it comes to week one a lot more uncertainty not only with suspensions but just overall performances at teams and that's why and i know we'll get into this next week but you don't be afraid this time of year to be much more aggressive in your power ratings adjustments all right so believe. We touched on a handful of thursday game last week. I know we've got a dinner bet on where u._c._l._a. And cincinnati winds up going here what this number it's two and a half extra juice some places offshore down to someplace just sitting three. This was kind of bouncing all over. The place should be a very good game tonight and uh certainly won't tell us a lot about both of those teams utah b._y._u. This number went all the way up to the seven at six six and a half now kind of hovering around there anything you wanna add for tonight's card before we take a look at friday yeah you know i and i'm giving mode. I mean it's college football. I it's night one so you know one play that i added to my v._i._p. Customers yesterday <hes> you know. I like the overnight nine texas texas state <hes> for a couple of reasons number one personnel wise i like. I like you know when it comes to texas. Am i yeah i think they're going to be more of a passing team what they were year ago and it just makes sense because a lot of their top wide receivers are back kill mons back and they're gonna have to work on that issue and then they lose a key running running back and treat williams so i look for texting in the past a little bit more this year on the opposite sides can medically tech states moving more uptempo and the new head coach expandable <hes> spent stab at all and <hes> bob state the new offense coordinator. <hes> is known as a temple guy so that that makes sense in that regard and then i. I thought this was a really good trend. If you're you know looking to bet you know totals when it comes to weather but i think a lot of people don't you know take this under consideration nation. Obviously everyone likes to look at rain and snow and particularly win but believe it or not when it comes to to the temperature gametime. I'm temperature in in specific game. I if you're betting on heat and this was gonna be hot tonight. Kickoff temperatures going to be near ninety. It's actually a positive for the over and it makes sense defensive players. You know little tired. They're more prone to give up the big play and i'll just throw this out there. You know just look at kicking football when it's eighty five degrees outside and wanted thirty five degrees outside and whether or not that football travel farther so i i think it's easier for for field goal kickers to make stuff so add all that up and i liked the over night texas state texas saying all right so we move onto friday here. <hes> and i didn't really have this game on the docket originally but i do wanna mention it here because this is the line move. It's kind of a head scratcher. I don't see any injuries or your significant. Suspensions really four wisconsin here but this number went from ten and a half or so offshore over the summer to thirteen now all of a sudden. It's back down how to tend with the badgers in tampa. Take on south florida and i. I don't really get this one. It's moving away from my number and also moving away from your number which is a red ed flag. We're not that my numbers are great but yours are so what's going on here. Yeah i mean it's a little surprising because <hes> i mean very respected. Uh-huh betting syndicate a few weeks ago gave out wisconsin <hes> right around my ten and a half and that being right angle i can comfortably say you know say say that 'cause they gave it out on twitter and moving to a couple of points that day i i mean the only thing i can think of and again. I won't do this during the course of the season but when it comes a week one i know a lot of these newsletters and whatnot services are given a lot of their you know freebie issues to start off the season but the only thing i could think of you know the the place where i worked at <hes> and just being on the inside there. I mean they mail out thirty forty thousand copies of their power sweep newsletter. I mean the the one of their top plays. <hes> south florida and i think those people now getting that in their hands. I mean whether or not they they move markets. Throughout the course. The season you know might be a little questionable. There's no question in my opinion a guy that has a lot of major influence on the market at least in the summer months and maybe even specifically in week one is phil steele on the north coast sports crew so that might be a reason. I mean they're they're very high on south order some. Maybe that's it but we never know. One hundred percent sure here's what i do know so <hes> if it gets down to ten adam burke. I'll post a ticket. I'll i'll be on the badgers here. Yeah i mean my number sixteen so i was happy with the move up over the summer summer now with the move down i mean i'm at the play wisconsin too and there are some tens out there in your in the offshore market for our listeners of the show that you know aren't anywhere with a brick mortaring if you do have the brick and mortars and if you're lucky enough to be in a state with apps obviously shop around for the best price see if he can find a ten here i don't see nine and a half at all but ten looks like the stopping point here so if you get one definitely make sure you take advantage of it but ran in general here as we look at friday wake forest taking money against utah state up from three and a half up to four and a half and even a straight five out there that's the smallest number of the board everything else ten or higher including rutgers ling fifteen and a half <hes> bishop state taking money up into the low up into the low to mid twenties armies at three touchdown favorite with their option attack some pretty big numbers here on friday big numbers overall. I think this week and i did this about a week ago. So maybe a game or to change but i gotta the forty three games and that's it's just that bs versus c._b._s. Obviously you're dealing with a lot of high numbers when it comes to the f._b._i. A._t._s. but i think out of the forty three major games i i think only thirteen of them were in single digits so i i mean <hes> three. Fourths of the games are sitting here <hes> th this week in double digits. It's so it's not an enticing slate when it comes to competitive football you know what does that mean for me. What am i betting options. I can tell you i it started the summer i i was pretty chock. Heavy just 'cause i anticipated money to come in <hes> left and right on a lot of these you know very public team so so you know the and i posted on my twitter bradpowers seven sorry for the shameless promotion there but you know a lot of favorites and i both my screen screen shot at the vets i made about two three months ago and you'll see a lot of big shock and a lot of big line moves <hes> i just at this point <hes> with the exception being the wisconsin south florida game. I probably talk myself and the plane back in some of these dogs that <hes> you know where the lines moved four or five points all right so a couple of games. I want to look at here for friday a little more indepth <hes> you know as i mentioned it's it's kinda crazy look at rutgers and see them as a fifteen and a half point favorite against you mass but umass new head coach losing their quarterback losing india's abella it does make sense to see a number that big. How about this big number one spot down on the board. They'll game one fifty five one fifty six rocky mountain showdown colorado state and colorado. This is a situation where i think you've got you know probably sharp and public money coming in heavy on colorado. Is this one where you'd advocate the thirteen and a half before we go to fourteen and and possibly higher or can you make the rams. You know it's past my number. I got an eleven range but i'm not gonna sit here and make a strong case for colorado state. Your news been outclassed in this this rivalry a lot of question marks i mean i don't know if i trust mike. Bobo visa colorado state head coach. I mean the last nineteen games he's fine five and fourteen eighteen against the number now last year want some health issues and i mean that can impact anybody in any career so it'd be interesting to see you know what it is. I mean clearly. I think he comes into the season on the hot seat but on the other side. I mean i got question. Mark smoked tucker is the new colorado coach and you know unique higher. I mean obviously a lot of expertise that the n._f._l. And major college level georgia last couple of years in the defensive side but a lot of colorado's talents on the offensive side starting with the discussion discussion all the wide receiver. He's a preseason all american even though it's past my number by a couple of points i'm kind of a pass here. Here's where i did think there. There's some value early on in the marketplace that i think cholera both teams in game feeling each other out and what i've seen in this rivalry last eleven years here's the unders gone ten and one and it's it's covered by nearly ten points per game talking the under in colorado colorado state <hes> that's where i thought there was some some value but but obviously the market's been all over this <hes> this totals lying down. I mean what more than a touchdown at this point no about for me on this one yeah i got this one fourteen fourteen so at least it's moving towards my number that makes me feel good about where i'm sitting with these teams but i agree with everything you said and also the total here down nine and a half points from where it opened pinnacle over the summer tackle game one fifty seven one fifty eight with you purdue and nevada my numbers nine and a half on this game so kind of interesting to see this purdue money again. I don't think my power ratings of the most efficient out there by any means but purdue. Is it pretty average team overall. I think they're going out on the road to reno really strange spot playing out the suits that they don't often do and they've kind of been. I think it would have been disappointment. Obviously you give jeff brown a lot of credit for your one your to you expected to see a leap. We didn't get it. Is this kind of a sign that maybe the market is looking for that leap this year from the boiler makers ooh i i mean no. I don't think so because a lot of money's been purdue under their season went soul <hes> i titan i guess last year. I think a lot of people remember the ohio state game but i mean keep mine. Purdue lost a close game early. I mean they started the season on three and i think okay they lost those three games combined like eight point so they're a little bit better than their record indicated last year and i know those of you that why what's the big deal with jeff brown you know he's thirteen and thirteen at purdue the last two years and in conference plays nine nine well in big big ten play prior to jeff from in the previous four seasons combined purdue only won three big ten games three and four seasons and he's got him to being an average football team so i think they're an average team this year. I i don't see a major upgrade. I don't see a major downgrade. I think they're right around that. Six seven wins that they've been so far outside iran more at wide receiver the all everything can do you know the return kicks and obviously prolific pass catcher as well. I mean that offense is relatively inexperienced but the defense should be better. I know you're a big nicole guy. <hes> they'll be much improved on this side of the aw i i didn't do a a you know a significant upgrade downgrade for purdue this year <hes> my line on this games nine i know it's unique travel situation situation but i mean with all the concerns about nevada's quarterbacks you know injuries and it almost looks like by default. They're going carson strong at quarterback. I got some major concerns on them. I mean certainly at the current number would lean nevada but i'm not running to. I think produce more of the public side here. I'm not gonna run. You know until game in dan less. The number continues to rise going bent the wolfpack here. I think i'm actually gonna take nevada and despotic again. My number is nine and a half so it's not like it's a significant begin overlay. I'm not crossing any big t- numbers. I mean i guess ten kind of a key number i think starting eleven and a half yesterday wish i could have grabbed it but travelling and all the other bullshit that goes along with coming back home but this is the spot where nevada pleased that three three five defense and i know that purdue had extra time to prepare for it. I do wonder how much they've prepared for it as opposed to we'll get some of the other games that they have coming up but nevada finally has the personnel to run that and it's such a different and unique kind height of scheme that you do really have to tailor your recruiting style for a defense like that. It's year three of that defense. It was pretty good last year. I would expect more improvement but this year also it's capable of keeping rondell more at least as boxed in as you possibly can. He'll still get his but maybe he won't have. Those huge plays so i actually kinda. I don't like this game a little bit and i didn't to begin with but as i preview overpaying the book dot com i wound up making case for nevada and i think this is kind of a learning point for all of our listeners out there that maybe you should start a personal blog and write some game previews for these things. Put your thoughts down on paper for organize them like i know brad you write ups on every game in your newsletter and maybe there are some games where you don't think that you have a play as you dig into it a little bit more. Are you organize those thoughts you go. You know what maybe i do. Kinda like this so maybe that's a good tip for our listeners out there to help them organize their thoughts focusing on a game able little bit more. Nobody has to read it. You can write it for yourself but maybe you find some winters that way yeah and i think also were that helps you was you know as the season progresses you actually can refer back to your notes and your actual handicap on the game and it doesn't matter if you necessarily get right back on that time. Sometimes you can find value going. Oh yeah i remember looking at up. You know how you can refer. It's an easy reference going back so i mean i learned by doing. I think people think i'm crazy. 'cause that's right up every single game but i i know it certainly helps me out to the you know by diving in even if if it's an extra five ten fifteen minutes on each game each week i i think it certainly helps you in the long run specifically as a season progressive. You don't find ended dig in and find a play for that specific week a lot of times i do. You're exactly right. I mean i bet it happens once or twice each week where i'll dig and do some extra legwork like work on a game and ended up flaking up play that it wasn't even thinking about <hes> prior but i i think a lot of instances it helps me in the long run in future weeks just like doing that legwork week after week on all teams aren't so let's go to saturday here and let's go to the game one seventy one seventy two toledo and kentucky scratched the surface surface on this game a little bit on yesterday's show with brian leonard but i do like the crowd source opinion sometimes on some of these games so ran get your thoughts here as well where kentucky down from thirteen to eleven and a half or twelve total up a field goal fifty nine to sixty two using the pinnacle openers over the summer here on terms of the opening lines that were out there wasn't the first i market but you know the most efficient and probably the strongest numbers in the office or marketplace <hes> try to do that for listeners because they're only a handful of states sure so far that you have legalized betting still most people going the offshore out in any event long story short kentucky eleven and a half or twelve total of sixty to here yeah. I mean obviously a lot of the early money's coming on the dog here. I mean the expectation kentucky off their best season forty plus years. They're going to take a step back this season. I mean to me it makes sense. <hes> i mean you're loose generational talent on both sides <hes> starting with their all time leading rusher and benny smell and he got a top fight draft pick at defensive end. Josh allen cleanup toledo. I mean i grew up in you know right around so they've been one of the more consistent group of five programs since gary pinkel will actually take back nick sabin nineteen ninety pinkos higher your after ninety one but i mean they bought about as consistent as get so the right up there at the top of the mac. When it comes to power ratings <hes> i think the win the looking at their division this year the fact they get western michigan northern illinois the home. I think they're probably gonna end up being better than what they were a year ago adding the fact that you know i tweeted this out. You know kentucky in a favorite role. Specifically typically at home hasn't been a good look last couple of years there. Oh in ten oh antenna against the spread last ten times. You've been home favorite. I understand the money and <hes> <hes> you know the toledo slightly milford toledo 'cause i. I think a lot of this is getting baked in pricing the the number here because even though i'm relatively low oh on kentucky this year and <hes> relatively high on toledo. I mean my number still twelve and a half thirteen so i i just louis. Even though it's against my number a little bit at this point just a slight lean for me until you. It's an interesting spot too because you know for kentucky as you mentioned i mean they've got some things to figure out here and toledo's consistency does stand out. They've also lost some talent here over the last few years and i mentioned this on yesterday's show the further they get away from the matt campbell years. You do wonder if they can sustain that high bar that they've set you know with. You know who's done a good job so far but you know again. I mean we'll kind of see how things play out. A little bit should be a fun little non conference game. No one that i certainly don't advise anyone to overlook here on saturday speaking of fun non non conference games one seventy five seventy six ole miss and memphis memphis down to a five point favorite here total ticking down a little bit in the upper sixties. He's over the summer now more in the mid sixties sixty six sixty six and a half ranch. This is a pretty fun little game yeah. At least i'll now. I'll be honest. I'm really impressed with the market on the total. I i was expecting this line to come in the low seventies considering what the production was from both teams last year offensively and defensively i'll really sharp told i was going to be very unique and back yonder <hes> but it it certainly bring you know priced in the fact that i think both teams i'll be we'll feature a little bit lower scoring game than what they did a year ago yeah. I mean usually generally speaking whenever you see an s._e._c. Team catching points like this against a group of five. I mean my first gut instinct. Gimme the disrespected s._e._c. You see underdog but but i think deserved i when i say numbers here. I'm talking pure power rating so you know with the going back to toledo real quick. Even though i you you know i mentioned that my number was twelve and a half or thirteen i can talk and i was leaning toledo. That was my pierpaolo. Rating on the game was kentucky because it's situationally. Maybe because there's some i'm trans. Maybe because it's a matchups i might actually go against the sometimes my powering so i just want to throw that out there as we go along the season but going back to this memphis this ole miss game number. I have five and a half six is my pure power rating but like i just mentioned when i got an s._e._c. dog <hes> and i i expect old mess that to have you know a lot of fans. I mean it's only a little over an hour drive from oxford to memphis so they'll be well. Represented added a lot of question marks with two new coordinators to my you know too high profile guys in former head coaches and mike macintyre enrich rodriguez so there's some uncertainty <hes> for for the rebels this year but i do like their their quarterback just lean though on ole miss or me again these numbers of embedded into all summer and and i feel bad for not coming out too strong so far but i just gotta lean on the rebels. I mean my number's eight for this game so i am definitely i am getting. I m getting being six seven. Here's the thing i'm almost always high on memphis. Annually i like memphis and i think part of it is because when you look at what they've done in the a._c._c. a._c. And you look at the as an offense of conference and you'll get the offensive personnel that memphis's had it's hard not to like that team year in and year out so. I don't know if i'm too high on memphis. I don't know if i'm maybe a little bit too low on old miss but this is one of those instances where yeah my numbers suggests. Take memphis you know going through six and seven evan absolutely says to take memphis but for the reasons that you just mentioned especially all the coordinator uncertainty memphis losing daryll henderson. There's different things going on. I'm here with this game. Also memphis is home field. Advantage is pretty high for me. I think it's three and a half in this game. It's probably not any three and a half point home field advantage as you mentioned with the proximity somebody of old miss to memphis so i didn't cut it down. I stayed with what my you know what my home field advantage value is but taking all those factors into account this this is why you don't wanna play solely on powering ting's unless you're grabbing numbers early on in the week when you get to this handicapping process which is really what almost all of week one is because the numbers are out so early you start adding these little factors in against your power ratings and if it keeps you off of a play so be it and then you see if your number was right if you know where this closing line goes stuff like that so my number's higher but i'm not gonna play this game for that reason yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself self. I mean that's you know almost ninety percent of what i do when i'm betting early answers pure barrings i i mean let's face it. You don't have the time to dive in specific matchups unless i mean it's those rare instances where you know. I'll use an example last year after purdue beat the buckeyes. I think they're playing michigan state the next week i was like i mean i just that i bet immediately and going against the situation spot of what i saw but you know generally speaking early early on in the bedding week it's all about betting number ki ki numbers betting off your power ratings and then as you dive in to the actual the handicap with the game whether rematch of seeing more situational. Maybe there's a key injury later on in the week and that's where sometimes i can talk myself into a player can talk myself out of out of a play. You know to get off a little bit off a game that i've already you bet but i think that's a very logical approach and it couldn't have said it better myself. When you're describing that aren't so we go to one eighty one one eighty two here in charlotte arlit neutral site games south carolina north carolina a couple of hours by seventy seven for the people from columbia south carolina. We'll be very well represented. Obviously north carolina will as well a lot of i'm sure north carolina loves work in charlotte and all that so there should be a good atmosphere for this one but there's been a rocket strapped apt to this line over the last south carolina up to as high as twelve at bookmaker. I mean i'm i'm blown away. I i really i thought the number was pretty good not where it opened right or kind of settled and that why haven't nine and a half but i double digits is a little high for me yeah. I haven't close to eleven so i'm not surprised and you know i actually do three newsletter. I have a sunday night report and you don't want my picture just south carolina. I i kinda expect the money to come in on the gamecocks here. <hes> i just i didn't understand it throughout the summer and shame on me. I probably didn't get as much as i should <hes> down on it and there's even some spots this summer where he could have gotten so you could late seven but even at the start of the week seven and a half and this one of the biggest lie moore's not much shocked by now the value for the most part gone. I i think people you know maybe they're fallen victim to you know they see south carolina's his win total and it's five and a half six ish depending on where you're out in the market and maybe they thinking south carolina's an average team. I have south carolina easily easily my top twenty five. I think could be much chance best team. They definitely not when it comes to win loss record but personnel why he likes his front seven we'll see i mean i'm trying to f._d._r. Jake bentley but but i mean we're the advantages as clearly quarterback experience. I think bentleys gonna make thirty third career. Start here sam damn how true freshman for north carolina making his first so huge difference there and you know i. I'm not opposed the market fading background. I mean let's face it. I mean he was kind of outdated at the end of is texas tenure there last couple years and humana coach in five years. I i totally fine with this line. I move but at the current number. I don't have a have a bet on the side. Yeah i mean like i said i am nine and a half and and i could make a case for giving south carolina carolina point of home field advantage. Even though this is in the state of north carolina the gamecocks span based travels really well and and i know that for a fact my wife's from their lot of our friends i do go to these games and they you know it's it's one of those experiences that you get a chance to go to any college. Football game certainly want to do it but definitely one of williams-brice. I had a blast are are the two that i've been to. I know this is a neutral site game but they'll travel very well <hes> for this short trip. The one thing that i will say about this game is this. I think if you like north carolina you have to ask yourself how many points they need to score to cover because as you just said you got the true freshman quarterback south carolina may have its best defense under will muss champ with more experience. It was what two three years ago they played the most freshman on defensive anybody in the country so this should be their best defense and everybody. Everybody loves the higher of j bateman north carolina's defensive coordinator so i i liked the under on the total a little bit here sixty three and a half and then that's the question. Can you know do you want to weigh double digits in a game. You think we'll be lower scoring than the expectation but again like i said how many points is north. Carolina scores the question for me here. Yeah you hit the nail on the head and i'll pull behind the curtain. Probably one of my i i know north carolina's going more uptempo and whatnot. I don't know i mean they've been kind kind of temporal under larry fedora. We'll see how you know the productive they can be with a true freshman but you know pull behind the curtain one of my favorite totals <hes> price i saturday's now i liked the under sixty three and a half <hes> you. I must have been a little conservative. <hes> i like is defensive personnel so i think the values clearly gone lane double digits with south carolina at this point. If you gotta get involved in this game i think the way to go all right game one eighty three one one eighty four here. We'll touch on duke and alabama quickly. I mean the line is thirty two and a half thirty three. There's no secret what's probably going to happen here. Alabama gets out quick then. It's a matter of do they stepped off the gas. Do they keep going. You know duke doesn't have daniel jones anymore so that's obviously a concern for them. Total struck a rock for this game to sixty two and a half down to as low as fifty six out there in the market and again. You know you gotta look at how many points is duke need to score a cover with the expectation of this game being in lower scoring that we thought over the summer and alabama laying over thirty points so how'd you breaking this one down i'm willing to do. I was already cleaning duke. Before the the suspensions i was already leaning duke before the injury to dylan moses and i get it. Nick sabin is very good in the season openers. He's eleven. I haven't won against the numbers since he started. Alabama average covers by nine points per game but i mean this is the biggest point spread for him to cover opener since two thousand eleven. David cutler just doesn't get enough credit. I mean you look at the last thirty six times. He's been in the underdog role. David cut cliff and the blue devils or twenty five ten and there's one pushing in their twenty five and ten in the underdog role average coverage by touchdown a game and i think even more remarkable dukes got a winning record in those games straight up nineteen and seventeen eighteen so they're in their preferred role. I mean obviously they're not gonna win the game. It'd be one of the biggest upsets in college football history but i think you know leaning duke here and there's some value and i think look i daniel jones getting a lot of publicity. <hes> i get you know when you're out of school like duke. You're not used to replacing first round draft choices at quarterback quarterback but we'll keep an eye on quitting harris he filled in for daniels last year even into baylor game and he did just find seven touchdowns exception last year and david cut cliff knows how to develop quarterbacks so add it all up for me. I'm on the blue devils and this is one of those are quitting harris. I mean look what are the things that can kind kind of tripped teams up a little bit earlier in the year quarterback second improvise. You get a pass rush going. He somehow gets away. Dudes get lost in coverage. There's you're you're so workout all of your instincts and everything else so maybe dukes offense a little bit more live than people would expect a couple of other points to touch on here real quickly my lines thirty one but i'm giving alabama the three points at home field advantage in atlanta because it's really riot. It's it's bryant denny east for them. I mean they play here all the time so alabama gets them home field advantage for that so i know we're gonna neutrals twenty eight so maybe in that respect there's little value relative to the market but i want to throw this out there and see if you think it means absolutely anything because we try to look for these little narratives we try to look for these little hidden gets. It could be the difference of us getting on a plane getting off play. Maybe it has some sort of emotional appeal. They've been taught cliff from birmingham went to the university of alabama seems to be one of the good guys in college. It's reporting a lot of coaches greatly respect what he's done. I know we kinda think. Sabin is a killer but is is this the guy that you know maybe cut cliff. Kinda hits a soft spot and alabama. Just doesn't yeah that that definitely came into my thought process. I mean nick sabin not the type of guy th that's. That's really wonder running up on anybody. Last year he finally had an offense that was capable of it but <hes> yeah i i. He's not gonna go out there and try and embarrass. David cut cliffs list and you know also mine. Alabama doesn't have the same backup quarterback situation as they've had the last couple of years. I mean it's not to an and jalen hurts. No more jalen hurts so i mean they'll get less competent play out of their backup than what they've had last couple of years so to me. That's another negative. If you wanna lay this huge number with the crimson inside that's true. I mean to us gonna play the first half right. I mean unless this game is close. He's not playing in the second half. I can't see it. I i bet he plays in the second half. I think it's going to be more competitive than people realize i mean the we'll see but i i think he's playing in the second half four of alabama's best players out in the first half my saying do any change snowball chance in hell of winning the game but i think there's a very good possibility could be in relatively close like a ten fourteen fourteen point type of game at halftime all right so let's move out one spot on the board here game one eighty five eighty six this this one's interesting and it's kind of getting interesting line movement now to northwestern and stanford. We've seen some minus. Six is out there pinnacle one of them matchbook matchbook one of them a couple of the sharper off-shores showing some money on north western here total coming down forty seven and a half so maybe some correlation in that regard but this is a tricky little game and i know that these are two major power conference teams that you kind of sat in the middle a little bit here over the last a couple of years northwestern did play ohio state in the big ten championship last year. We know that stanford had some good seasons in them but these are kind of overlooked power five live conference teams. I think in some regards this is a game not getting much buzzed that i think should i agree and it's unique handicap because ought be perfectly frank. I'm not a fan of either team really this year <hes> and my number even though i'm kinda lower on both teams i mean i have stanford seven and a half but i certainly don't wanna lay it. Here's why so my power hitting sanford seven half you look in north western in their preferred underdog role especially on the road so bigger sample aside since since since two thousand eight hundred odd north western's twenty seven and nine against the spread isolate that to the last ten times the wildcats had been the underdog ro role on the road ten and now against the the spread they've won eight of those games outright in the road underdog role average cover more than fourteen points per game that alone to me 'cause 'cause. I certainly don't wanna lay it here. With the cardinal i i i would lean on the wildcats here. Well some good numbers there to be sure and i don't know maybe that's kind of having a little bit of an impact out there in the market. I curious to see what happens in this game because i'm not real high on stanford in from never hired david shaw overall <hes> not real western for this year either so you know you just said these are two and i'm going to call them fade teams. I'm not going to actively look to play against them especially northwestern team that does play so well in that dog role but neither team is the team have all that high on so i wanna see how this game plays out and if maybe i can get some future information on these teams now some news that broke here this morning game one ninety one hundred ninety two boise state at florida state will now i'll be played in tallahassee instead of jacksonville because of the impending hurricane doria so my god this is gonna be. I mean all the numbers that were out there over the summer. You know what's going to happen with those game of the year tickets at the venue change means. They get wiped out right man. It's gotta be the the same venue so i mean i had my biggest of the year on florida state so i mean that was a vacation gone so well like you take vacations instead. Give me that shit yeah. I don't but i mean it's just it's a co- accumulating the wealth accumulating so i mean of course i mean i would love to see him still pay. Hey it out like a florida state three and a half ticket that i have but <hes> yeah i mean i gotta think those tickets are avoided. You gotta play in the same venue so yeah. They're actually salihi mentioning it on twitter. Now super book says it's a refund circuses because it's more than one hundred miles from the originally scheduled location. It's a refund so yeah house. Rules are probably gonna refund all these so my my condolences for your <hes> your fantasy vacation yeah. Oh man dan yeah. What about the handicapped. Now i mean i see here today. They had the handicapped doesn't change it all to me it yeah but the number does and it'll be interesting because i thought some of them is pricing was that they weren't given for state enough credit for you know to home field i mean if if you look at ticket sales it was more than ten to one for state boise state on your questions like twenty five hundred tickets and it's not like florida state ticket sales were great <hes> but but i mean they were approaching and this was a couple of weeks ago like thirty five thousand and actually there's like three or three weeks ago so thirty five thousand less than three three and i'm sure you'd be more pronounced i mean as long as they're not lane nor seven and a half i mean yeah i mean i still like i four state but i'd be a lot less inclined to to lay with this knowles team you know seven and a half points and if that's going to be the judgment if they're gonna make three three point adjustment adjustment or so here <hes> but i'm just not interested at that point yeah i mean my forested homefield number is three. I gave him two and a half in jacksonville. You know they're they're going to have a huge. The crowd edge but also the big factor in this game is is the heat and humidity for boise state certainly not going to be accustomed to and obviously here. Check the wind forecast. Ask because i know this storm is expected to hit the east coast of florida but i imagine it could be a little bit windy there in tallahassee as well and this goes without saying to we've had some hurricanes wipe out some games. There's been some destruction. There's been alterations to season win. Totals because of hurricanes you gotta factor these things into the equation for the handicapped and officer threats thoughts first and foremost with the people in the path of the storm but you know this is a betting show so we've gotta talk about this window. Linda rain miserable conditions travel headaches. People don't talk about that. Either you know some of these teams have to completely change. Their travel plans fly out a day earlier. You're all this type of stuff. This is going to be a thing for the next six or so weeks in college football. Maybe more depending on the weather forecasts and patterns so you've got to keep this in minded also if you know a storm is coming under is going to move in the blink of an eye so yeah in the market and then figure it out after that yeah i agree i mean i go back to i think this weekend at notre dame play clemson and that slop <hes> that that you know this is two thousand mm fifteen and if you just blindly bet the onder and this was even game day blindly bet the yonder in all the games played in like three or four state region was south carolina north carolina virginia. You were like fourteen and under so yeah. I mean if there's any kind of weather concerns. Go get out of the market and like you said get figured out later later. Go and feel free about the under but i and again. I want to put this out here because i i was you know bitching about vacation. I obviously you know me bitching about losing a possible. Bet <hes> you know nothing compares to what could happen there so thoughts and prayers i have a grandma still lives in daytona beach area so <hes> which isn't too far so <hes> yeah obviously that comes first and foremost but that as a betting show of course i'm gonna complain about. Maybe a possible loss ticket. Ah well another tough situation here game one ninety three one ninety four s._m._u. Arkansas state arkansas state down to two and a half but some places three others this game. It's kinda drawn some attention the betting market over the last few days here certainly a very tough spot for arkansas state. When the anderson the wife the head coach blake anderson <hes> you know passing away from her long battle with cancer last week and you know certainly <hes> thoughts with the arkansas state football family there. It makes for a hard handicapped brad because you know you don't really know how arkansas state's gonna come out. Obviously they have a rallying point for both their head coach. You know it seems like wendy was a beloved figure football team as well on the other hand kind of tough to focus on football with s._m._u. Team that. I actually kinda like a little bit this year so so. Are you breaking that game down. Yeah lean s._m._u. I mean it is a tough place to win. Arkansas got one better home. Field advantages google five level thirty nine eight the last eight years but no justice hanson. I mean he's the <hes> second in school history and career pass yards. You're right about the blake anderson. That's a distraction attraction. Although i mean i turn around and say hey they'll play the team will play with a heavy heart and try to win one for the gipper type of thing here so we'll see that in fact but him being being away so it doesn't help from game plan aspect i mean that's a really tough schedule this year. I like the transfer <hes> the texas transfer chamber shell <hes> ben hicks has gone off the arkansas but add it all up slightly s._m._u. But here's another one where and i i kinda like the over here. <hes> i know new quarterback on both both sides but i mean just from what i've seen both teams here in the last several years <hes>. I think it's kind of a cheap total here. I'm gonna go ahead and lean over the total. They're fifty six to seven to await and this is a huge game for a variety of different reasons. It's big for the perceptions of both of these esteems. It's big for the n._f._l. Draft it's big for the national championship picture oregon and auburn auburn up to three and a half some straight forest popping topping out there as well now. Is this the way that this line should be moving. <hes> no i i i thought three he was a really solid number three and a half. I lean oregon. Although i'm a little gun shy is last year the pac twelve team against auburn and i was i was on the huskies i mean you could you know treat a couple of different ways washing their chances to win the game but also there was kind of a shell shock early in the game i mean they just weren't ready for the s._e._c. speed and that's a really good xs and os coach obviously chris peterson i'd rather have than mario cristobal but <hes> lean organ at the at the current three and a half although to me that seems square. It's almost like they're begging for you to take the ducks. They're on that would worry me also worries me with regard to oregon. I mean and being really good away from home the last three years or four twelve straight up <hes> but significant edge experience like the north carolina south carolina game a significant edge quarterback experience. I mean you've got a guy just in herber making twenty nine career start against a a true freshman beau next to i really like and i think he's going to have a fabulous career down there on the planes. He's making his first career start so you had that factor in. I'll i'll take oregon plus the three and a half again just lean for me and this one's intriguing for a lot of different reasons i mean gus malzahn takes over place for over in the ballgame <hes> and and they just helped truck purdue in the music city bowl so i mean you know that that may not be a bad thing for them here going into this year and then also oregon. No jim levitt it anymore. It's andy avalos who comes over from boise state. I mean levin took a shit show of a defense and turn them into a very strong unit. Will they be able to continue that. Here are against an s._e._c. Speed offense like auburn. I disagree. I dunno if it's a great game for betting standpoint but it's a great game overall for college football well and again as i mentioned i mean this is a game that this is a resume game four of the college football playoff. I don't know how oregon wines up doing in the pac twelve north. I don't know how auburn does in in in the s._e._c. west but this game that could impact the teams around them too so this is a huge week one matchup for sure yeah and i mean i hate to put a whole conference on hold but i mean this is a big week for the pac twelve especially after last week. It wasn't good. I look with an arizona team. Arizona team going down on the island. <hes> i think all these games <hes> there's b._y._u. Talking tonight's big you obviously u._c._l._a. For big and i i mean if there's not a good look i mean it's going to be an uphill climb for this pac twelve conference that they get a team in a playoff and certain elaine oregon loses and doesn't look good doing doing so. That's gonna you know. I obviously have a negative impact on everybody else but you know one more match. What's up that. I really like here and we'll see i mean. Oregon's offense allies get a lotta club. I mean they're they're the most experience offensive line college football in eight years but that all defense line has a couple of legit grown ass men at the line of scrimmage led by derrick brown. We'll see how that pac twelve team molds up at the line of scrimmage because i certainly have my doubts seen what i've seen from tax-load seems last couple of years in non conference play specifically against the better conferences and and that could be you know part and parcel with the line move here because you know a lot of star players do tend to focus on the trenches and maybe younger auburn does have a little bit of an advantage here <hes> in this particular matchup and one other game of the pac twelve team and i did mention that on monday with hunters well that you know perception the pac twelve definitely on the line here in week like one and and maybe we get some line value on the pac twelve if they have a bad week one here but this fresno state u._s._c. game u._s._c. thirteen and a half point favorite fresno state state loses quarterback offensive coordinator top wide receiver <hes>. They're you know they have a little bit of a timeshare running back <hes> with <hes> mims and in rivers mims out for the year now so they kind of lose that a little bit river is only a five foot eight guy. He's not a belco run at three hundred times this season kinda back so fresno associates up against it a little bit here man. You want to talk about teams at squatter talent. No one's done it better than u._s._c. here of late yeah i mean i think two four seven does a really good job. They do like you know team talent and <hes> they'll take into consideration that they go through every single like <hes> fall roster and they look get you know what were these composite recruiting rankings of these players on the roster think he's like in the top five for this year so i i mean obviously they squandered a lot but ah i got involved quite heavily <hes> about as much as i did with four to stay while u._s._c. early want one. This line was nine and a half ten so a lot of big bets early now at the current line. I certainly think there's some value loss but i mean to me. This was all about buying low and selling high. The bilo was s._e. Off their their first losing season in two dudack aids and i mean they went youth movement last year with the true freshman quarterback and j._t. Daniels and a lot of young berritown white receivers all those guys are back and i like the a new offense coordinator higher graham harrell i get he's kind of a poor man's clip kingsbury but <hes> and they'll be much improved on that side of the ball so that's the bilo buying essiet low and then for me the the the sell high part is fresno state off their you know most things in school history. I love jefford. He's done it about as good as job as anybody. In the country last last two years doesn't get the credit for it but <hes> i mean when you're off twelve wins and your least experienced team one of the least experienced teams in the country that the last <hes> you know coming into this season <hes> selling high on the bulldogs out up right now lena see attorney. You know i got it in front of a three. Four point line moved here but i think that's the way to go all right couple more games. I want to tackle here real quickly houston and oklahoma. We've got some sunday night college football here before the n._f._l. Gets underway oklahoma down to a twenty three point favorite here total seventy nine seventy nine and a half for this one very familiar foe and holson for the houston cougars but winston different personnel here and he certainly has a good quarterback india king so you agree with this move i don't i i mean i have oklahoma home. Apart rated closer line being twenty seven so i i again. You know the disagree here <hes> i. I'm not a big dana alderson fan. I'm i'm just not i mean if you take out his first season and west virginia and i was a season where they famously crush clemson and the orange ball take that out. He's like under forty percent against spread spread. It lasts seven years as a head coach. Just blindly betting against dana holger sohn you hit like sixty percent so i think he's overrated <hes> and and i don't think you know there's a lot of west. Virginia people are really bummed out. I mean this was gonna be you know a tough season. Regardless of west virginia i think in the long run they upgraded so i'm negative on dana ulverston love d._r. King i'm fifty total touchdowns for a guy that missed a couple games last year that's great but <hes> i think oklahoma's defense is going to be improved. I like alex greenwich. I know he didn't have a great year at ohio state last year but that was there was too many moving parts there. <hes> ciano was gonna you know. Take take the tennessee job or whatever couple years ago so for inch was going to be the sole guy and he's the co d._c. So i'll give him a pass for that when he does have experience. It's you know coaching with an uptempo offense. I mean did a really good job with mike. Leach <hes> washington state and and keep in mind. We're lincoln riley cut his co. You know coaching career where where where. Where did he cut his teeth. He started at texas tech under mike leach so i think there'll be some great synergy there between expansion lincoln riley and watching jalen hurts hurts in the spring. He already looked like an improved passer so for me and it all up by lean oklahoma and obviously one of the bigger news as the total. It's the highest one total title in college football history and bombing to b._s. Teams and if you're just blindly betting the over on any game that's lined eighty or above in college football history your sixty one percent so the over so <hes> and be very careful <hes> you know i know a lot of people like to play against big outliers. Be careful betting outing yonder there one more game. I wanna talk on it would have been in depth and then one more game. I want to ask about just for novelty purposes. I think it's kinda funny but notre dame and louisville notre dame. I'm eighteen eighteen and a half point favorite here total down into the mid fifties for this one. You're fighting irish <hes> team that you grew up being a big fan of not really getting as much respect as you might think here and scott satterfield louisville debut yeah and i gave out louisville <hes> then my newsletter <hes> yeah you know the other day <hes> i gave out louisville plus twenty so i'm not surprised by any stretch on that one so <hes> here's what i see i mean notre dame's in one of their biggest away favor awesome the last two decades that's in my opinion i like scott satterfield and i think those powering will mess up because quite frankly. They just quit on katrina last year. I mean if you wonder why they took such a big dip. It wasn't necessarily a dearth of talent. It was just flat out quit on both their head coach and specifically ah their defensive coordinator brian van gorder <hes> obviously notre dame fans are familiar with with being a disaster. <hes> was fired from notre dame a couple of years ago and they're you. They're four and eight season louisville switching more run game so if i got a big dog i'm working o'clock. I know names big weakness on defenses up the gut up the middle where are they lost three of their best players there to linebackers drew tranquil tavon coney and obviously jerry taylor and jerry tillery defensive tackle so that's a negative and you know i'm in books back at quarterback but you know notre dame's biggest playmakers specifically dexter williams running backs gone and they lost their number three number four receivers some foreign fall camp. Add it all up for me. I'm on louisville and good to see the market agrees with me all right one last thing i wanted to touch on here. I don't wanna keep it too long. Oh you got a lot of stuff going on here game twenty one to twenty two tonight on thursday night n._f._c. versus f._b._i. Game it is wagner and yukon and of course you know why i'm asking you about this game. Because last you're gonna give up eight point eight yards. Per play was arguably worst defense ever in college football history there in eighteen and a half point favorite tonight however in their last three games against f._c._s. teams beat rhode island by seven holy cross five seven and main by three. Is there any chance in hell that you'd wanna lay eighteen and a half with yukon tonight. Yeah i yeah i don't even know what you don't believe it or not kind of close to my power ring so i haven't no lined up and <hes> you now with a truckload of money <hes> on wagner here but <hes> yeah you can't bet uconn in fact you can't bet him in the favorite role. I got him one nine their our last ten games as a favorite now i'll try to go back here further and see i three and eighteen as a favorite last one. I'll try to keep going back as we're doing. The spot here is i'm clearing this but yeah they're one of the worst teams in the country <hes> if you go back to after that season i think it was what two thousand ten two two thousand nine i mean. They're one of the worst team overall against spread pacific specifically in the favorite role. Do you have any double digit f._c._s. over the f. b. S. upsets that you're kind of on your radar here for week. One ooh <hes> i don't actually i mean maybe this is scary as for me that i you know i'm kinda got a lot in most of them have been favorites that i've been kinda looking at. I don't but that doesn't mean won't be one. I can tell you i i mean again. People don't want to hear about what i bet early but i mean i'll i'll say just 'cause in place my ego <hes> central michigan six six and a half that number was wrong. I'll get one and won't blow it out of the water. Let's move this line here. Live on the book one that i just bet <hes> <hes> san diego state only lanes seven and a half we were state. I get we were states are really good defense and that's going to be a low total standing with state's got a little bit of a chip on their shoulder this year. I think that lines off that should be double digits so santo. St is my favorite f._c._s. game on. That's still left on the board. On of course a lot of offshore is don't don't even have these games as of yet. I think five times the only one that does so that will definitely be worth keeping an eye on here as we get closer to kick off on these games brad powers professionally haiti over at bradpowerssports.com power sports dot com fred. Tell us about the best value in the businessman yeah so it's called the powers picks newsletter <hes> and what it is. I i mean everything we've gone over almost all the information. I just talked about here for the last hour plus. It's been in this issue of the newsletter and i do a game right up on every single college football game. I do a game right up on every single n._f._l. 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Week 0 Recaps, New Starters, and Group of Five

The Solid Verbal: Living College Football

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Week 0 Recaps, New Starters, and Group of Five

"Welcome to the solid verbal offer me a man on forty. I've heard so many players say why one it'd be happy. He wanted to be happy for day. Eight of steak is that won't go down. Welcome back to <music>. Solid reputable is a girl is my name is tai hildenbrand joining me as always my man over there in beautiful new york city the week before the season dan rubenstein sir doing. I think we're in the season technically even if you ignore weeks zero because it's not a full regular week. We're in week one. This is the week one run-up right. Did you get into the later start or the later finish to the week zero game where you wait for that title. Let's back up. Was i awake for the second half of florida miami. The answer is a resounding. No the answer is a full-on john. It's halftime. I was at a hotel on the jersey shore. I had just finished c. C. minus pizza and i said to myself. I have a limited amount. You know when you play an r._p._g. You have you have certain you have this much life this much health this much stamina this much weaponry that kind of thing yeah as a a newly minted father and just general old man. I have so many late night college football nights just available to me this season yeah. What was i going to waste it on zero. I was not so i just found the full versions of both florida miami and then arizona a hawaii the following day and watched at my own leisure and now have many many thoughts absolutely as do i i will say as not a new father other yeah but a resident of a new state in which sports gambling is now legal. Oh okay the change the dynamic i you may have had a rooting interest in the final moments of that lord of miami game and let me tell you oh final moments for great via both were great but the the florida miami one from an over under standpoint had real significance and brother. I aged about fifteen years on that lasts sequence which we can get into here momentarily. If we want to talk about that but yeah yeah <hes> an interesting occurrence of events on on both fronts really matter which game you were into who we are going to go through news on this show. We're going to talk about those two games very quickly as well as some of the new starting quarterbacks that have been named in the run-up to week pick one and then we're going to cover the group of five now we haven't done the full deep dive of like sixty group of five teams cry instead what we've done is go through and look at okay who are the top dogs who are some of the contenders the pretenders and we're going to try to cover it from that perspective because i know y'all love the show. We love the show to their only so many hours in the day. We can't cover all the teams we've received since january. We've received saved an email. Maybe five emails a day strictly asking when we were going to deep dive the tulsa golden hurricane of course and we've been putting it off we have we've been putting it off. I think the debate will be next year. The deep dive on tulsa will be next year but well first of all. Do we have housekeeping. Do we want to get into zero. What what is the order order of operations here well first and foremost the order of operations is we've been waiting. Throw this one out into the podcast fear for a couple of weeks but <hes> <hes> the wondering news we talked about the wandering news were varied. I had joined the wondering podcast network. It's exciting for us. What it means though is listening at home and we always get this. How can we help. Here's how you can help go to wonder dot com slash survey. That's w o n d e r y dot com slash survey and their survey there. You can fill it out. You have the opportunity to talk a little bit more about our show. What you like about it. 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Yeah i in promoting the fantasy things show on twitter. I just did a simple search. Marty smith gifts and it is literally all all the gifts that are presented. Are marty smith committing to a bit. There's no just like marty. Smith look like waving at the camera. Martyrdoms commits to the bit. It's always he's committing to the bit so that was a fantasy thing i selected and that's already paying dividends and check out the fantasy thing show mommy mommy. She texted out chris. Collins worth was selling selling some sort of n._b._c. drama. I'll really carolina yeah. I didn't see it so i have to see if i could find it but chris collins worth worth on whatever sunday night football broadcasts they had gone was kirk. Herbstreit is now. He's kurt herbstreet. Selling wendy's spicy. Dougie's is that what's happening. Thatt's whoa probably to'mainstream to get points for yet but it's happening man. It is all happening here. College football is going to be in full swing before before we know it's all sorts of ways you can connect with the verbal. We're also going to have a pickup game. People asked about the pickup game. Oh ross that set up with friends over a chalk line so stay tuned for for that. The link will be up on the website before wall. Yeah i mean this fantasy thing that we're referencing is a broadcaster becoming a spokesperson for like accompany that is not one of the three or four or five industry leaders in that category because i was like laura rutledge and marty smith for academy outdoor sports. It's <hes> i believe so if brock you're is doing dunk a roos commercials yeah. You better believe that counts. That's what we're looking for so daniel. Shall we get rolling here. Let's do it. We have news. I don't know what that could be well. We had florida author. We're doing this monday. Yeah florida knocking off. Miami is one took place at camping world stadium in orlando the i i guess really big game of the year happened on week. Zero great thrown shot opening opening the game. A great drone shot was an interesting scenario for young jaren williams than new starting quarterback for the miami hurricanes thought showed some promise but ultimately miami's offensive line overwhelmed by florida's defensive line something like ten sacks in that football game right and it really was incumbent incumbent on florida to win the game at the end to win the game at the end to not try to lose which is sort of what they tried to do flee bay frank with a horrible backbreaking interception if not for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that went against miami. Perhaps the situation would have been a little bit more favorable rable towards the hurricanes but alas they get the ball back late in the game. Darren williams has a chance to win it. There are a couple pass. Interference calls none. The less florida ends up up getting the w dan mullen says much at the end basically what i said in the beginning like man i aged a lot on that last drive and route to oh florida starting off the season one and oh what was your takeaway just generally from a very high level of this game. I just everything was pretty much sloppy. I mean we we saw <hes> explosion plays that were largely a result of bad tackling. We saw miami all out fail to protect sharon williams and his first start at quarterback koreans. I am hopeful <hes> we'll start. We'll start with florida. <hes> flea franks through some bad passes but seem to be improved in terms of command and accuracy the overall. I mean he hit that. One ridiculous pass up the same which is your that's the fleet bay franks experience at this guys kind of all over the place and green and rocky and then he just throws an an absolute dime he seemed to be more poison and control early against a very good miami defense so i like to see that neither team could really run and just the the slop and inconsistency of playing your first game of the season against the legit opponent showed itself pretty pretty clearly so from florida perspective you you get the win. That's great against a what should be a pretty good miami team and for miami hopefully darren williams stays alive all year long behind that that was really rough. It was a rough watch because i thought they game plans especially early on pretty well for him. A lot of quick passes and screens just get it. They knew what they had and what they didn't the half from this offense and i there's only so much you can do. That kind of thing only works for so long. If you don't have a next move and miami really struggled to find my next move so get a couple of explosion plays to go down the field a couple of times successfully but ultimately florida just had the best thing in this game which which was the favorable matchup offensive line against offensive line florida with four turnovers game which is something obviously need to clean up. You see a big improvement between week one in this case we zero in week two whenever florida plays next i would expect that dan mullen is gonna clean some stuff up miami as he said is pretty good defense so we'll see how they progress from this point forward but yeah definitely a sloppy showing start things off and that extends tends to the other game that we saw on saturday evening between yeah arizona and hawaii arizona got an a very early the whole down fourteen nothing it went exactly the way i think you expect a lot of arizona games to go this year where kind of devolves into a shootout before you know no it it's all on the arm or legs of khalil tate khalil tate scrambles towards the goal line on the last play of the game ends up being stopped one yard short short of scoring potentially the tying touchdown and arizona starts off on the wrong foot on a sloppy foot in their own right losing by seven on the road in aloha stadium to the warriors. Can we fully comprehend how difficult it is to win the turnover battle by four turnovers <music> overs and put up over five hundred yards of offense and have the most dangerous dual threat quarterback in a major conference and lose to a team in the mountain west that is not a mountain west power hawaii certainly a team on the come up. They have a lot of returning guys that should win games this year but the degree of difficulty in doing that and as i was watching this game fully knowing the result as i said i want to sleep at halftime of florida miami no shame what fully what watching this entire tire game played a play thinking how in the hell is is arizona can give this away and then you see a backbreaking pick here then you see a bad third downplay downplay there and just situationally arizona when they had opportunities. He just blew so many of them. I think they had nine or ten penalties and that's a week zero thing i game thing but degree of difficulty like not even add nine of impressed wild yeah impressed by the way khalil tate three sixty one through the air one eight on the ground. Yeah oh my god to open the season with that kind of losing effort so arizona will be dangerous. It's on offense there. I think they look deeper than ever skill position wise from where they've been these past couple of years a defenses raw secondary with rough at times all right so as we now turn the page and move into week one mode fully <hes>. Let's talk about some of the starting quarterbacks that have been named. I'm gonna run battles tier and just gimme any hot takes. Just regular takes if you have them. Ben hicks will be your starter at arkansas. Some thought it might be next arkell goal but it's been hicks instead played for played for chad morrison s._m._u. So there's the he's a familiar gay under center <hes> yeah that's fine. I don't think it'll make a difference either way. Matt mckay will be your starter at n._c. State the mckay was going to be the guy mccain much yeah yeah so here's one is it michael pex or michael phoenix junior winning the job at indiana. I believe it's panics damn i. I'm so sorry three eleven year old dan anti he has won the job over paint ramsey. He has incoming quarterback. Peyton ramsey who put up numbers who had you know put together nice strives and streaks of action but i think it was long considered that panics was the superior talent came in as a a pretty highly touted recruit and tom allen familiar with with him from his time recruiting florida so it makes sense that once healthy 'cause he i think he torres last year against penn state that he was going to be the guy if he was fully ready to to maximize skills. He's also a lefty which good to see a quarterback not enough quarterbacks out there correct michael panics x will be your starting quarterback for the indiana hoosiers. Hopefully he can get the ball to my boy. Nick westbrook down the field. Maybe they can generate. Some explosion plays stretch afield bit. That'd be nice for indiana okay florida's. They are going with james black men. You might remember that alex. Hornibrook brooke came over from wisconsin as grad transfer. Willie taggart told me to have a chance to compete for the job. I said at one point he represented a clear the upgrade over jane's black men apparently that is not the case willie taggart gonna go back to james blackman yeah. I think <hes> alex hornibrook was going the wrong direction from good starter town too great backup ville or whatever i said turn the s._e._c. preview. Let's go with <hes> wisconsin here. In jack owen <hes> wins the job over graham merz who was the all world everything freshman jack cohn as we know him here on the show king cohen one played five games started four last year when hornibrook was hurt mostly gave the ball to jonathan taylor tailback yeah. I was not super impressed with him. Though he made plays against miami i believe the pinstripe bowl your and america's favorable game on the eastern seaboard so he has the experience has snus shown flashes probably too strong twinkles with what's a minor version of a flash twinkles of upside sow. Perhaps it's a guess is <music>. Get mertz comfortable and maybe by the time october you know. I don't think it's going to be a long leash for for jack on your boy. Gajate goo brewed. No sir has lost the starting job at washington state instead it goes to anthony gordon. He's a fifth year senior fail. <hes> was a junior college transfer. Mike leach going <hes> with mr gordon. The fishermen looked better and i think gaza goo brewed is coming off of some tricky foot situations where he was hurt. Last year was was beat up in the spring so i don't know if it was a health thing but apparently anthony gordon is the guy and generally generally when mike leach selects quarterback. He throws for four hundred thousand yards so he must be confident in him chase gardeners. You're starting quarterback at cal. He beads leads out devon monster kind of prevent devan monster. Excuse me yes <hes> a little surprising but domon monster wasn't starting at u._c._l._a. He came german thinking he'd have a chance because quarterback play has not been strong suit for cal and i guess chase garbage just was better. I'm not all that confident after watching him last year that their offense is is going to be appreciably better but you know always open to it hank backfire the new starting quarterback at boise state will talk about boise a little bit more more as yet show progresses formerly a four star recruit had offers from a couple big schools ends up going to boy see ends up winning out the starting job he beat out chase cord who was richard sophomore and senior jalen henderson and so he's a freshman. He's true freshman. I believe your freshman correct all right. That'll be interesting. We've got a couple true. Freshman and we've talked about bo knicks at auburn and now hancock meyer here will say i am. I am optimistic that brian carson is not just going with somebody because he was he came in as a touted recruit or gives them the biggest opportunity to grow at quarterback. He is the dude and <hes> i imagine they're going to be pretty got all right a couple ones that i think were pretty obvious but i'll just list them anyway. Sean clifford getting the nod at penn state jacob easson getting the nod at washington. Tommy stevens officially named starter at mississippi state. We knew about brandon wimbush will talk about brandon wimbush a little bit more here on the group of five show but he will be starter at u._c._f. Ryan willis is going to be the starter at virginia tech. Here's one and that was somewhat interesting. Brandon peters ran n._p._r. Starter at illinois right brennan. Peter started illinois. That was a couple of freshmen in the mix. I i don't think illinois is going to be very good with or without brandon peter's but hopefully he realizes you know something closer to what he looked like against purdue couple years ago <hes> outside of that. I you know it's he's a guy we know his name. <hes> should be noted that jake hainer transferred. The guy now was who is is going to be behind jacobsen. I imagine he thought he was going to win the competition and they gave it to eastern or eastern earned it and hands like yum out. I'm out. I'm gone so washington down in that's going to happen. We nebraska last year. <hes> where somebody just does not win the the quarterback competition they go elsewhere to <hes> to find their place in the college football world. I saw what josh jackson official maryland's josh jackson official maryland. Yes bets good west. Virginia austin kendall oklahoma transfer justin fields ohio state jalen alan hurts oklahoma all obvious jamie newman at wake up over over sam hartman who jamie newman. I think look a little bit more promising near the end of last season so couple of surprises surprises couple young couple young freshman that get the nod. We'll be interesting to see especially now that one of them is starting arguably the biggest game of the weekend for auburn against oregon but good to see the competitions coming to a close and excited see some new faces all right so why don't we place the final piece of this jigsaw puzzle and talk a little group of five here on the show. Let's play the group of five sound <music>. I'm so oh i'm so hungry. I just hit all the buttons on the soundboard here here. I heard a double spicy. I heard heard you hit the. I'm spicy song sound twice which wow feeling it. I think it's fitting that we are recording our group of five show on international dog day dan it was that international dog day as an underdog day <hes> we'll talk. You're talking about group of five teams. Excuse me so. We've got a number of teams here. I've got a list of like. I don't know thirteen to fifteen on my end just teams that were of interest to me. I don't have quite the level of depth that may be. I would say a power five team but nonetheless these are teams that we talk about weaken a week out tina's that certainly have power five opponents of note and it it would not surprise it should not surprise when or if one of these teams pulls an upset throughout the course of the year. Do you have a list in front of you of sidhu big group of five power five non con match ups that we're gonna have in front of us here in two thousand nineteen. Call me crazy tie and you can play whatever associated associated sound you want to right off the bat. I'm taking hawaii over arizona. Ask i'm just doing it. Call me crazy. I like him in a shootout. The sloppy de passing turnovers. Give me the warriors yes. There are some interesting match ups. I think fresno u._s._c. week week. One with fresno's done these past couple of years and what jeff tedford specifically has done turning around that team new faces on offense for fresno but new offense entirely for u._s._a. So i think that's a pretty worthy test for u._s._c. If not i mean i think he was u._n._l._v. Who's run all over u._s._c. Recently so fresno stands a chance in that game. I'm hey fresno might have been like one of the best group of five teams last year. If not they were the mountain west america's group of five conference yes for sure for on a different note but like a a more entertaining to me not all miss memphis i think could be all sorts of weird and fun and oh yea on hawaii. I love me some memphis year brady white two more years. I love you warriors some memphis. You're not crazy that they've got to new coordinators but yeah i love me some memphis brady white and they still have the pop cox magnificant trio right that is correct okay. Hey <hes> we have florida state boise state in jacksonville opening the season brett rippin no new star hank bach meyer james blackman when i think i saw that florida state's a five five and a half point favorite in that game i make sense boise's replacing a lot on offense and the replacing acing. They've replaced their defensive coordinator. I think they have co-coordinators. They brought in a guy from eastern washington. They promote somebody from within so it's a newer look boise state than it's been in a long time time. <hes> what's madison avenue has gone couple receivers brett rippin so there's go their stock. That receiver recruited well. There's a good spot their their line should be good obviously breaking in a freshman quarterback tough spot week one. I don't care who you are tough spot freshman in week one on the road neutral site game neutral site in air quotes because the games in floored correct but i think the real issue for boise state in this one could be if florida state can get anything going with its offensive line which should not be taken for granted. We'll talk about more of this on our week. One preview show later in the we shot. I think camakers could pose an issue for boise state here because the front seven for them is in a particular area of death. I could see a situation where boise state worse down especially in that florida heat but who marvin wilson's good <hes> houston oklahoma which should not answer but give us insight into some questions for both these teams houston obviously hiring dana hoeger send bringing back a hopefully fully healed derek king at quarterback <hes> replacing facing a lot on defense as they they'd sort of move around schemes. They're going four down. Linemen now movies more four three. It's going to take a bit for this houston. Defense and you know what it might. Take a bit it for this oklahoma defense but that's also week one. I want to say it's sunday that sunday sunday night yeah houston. Oklahoma should be pretty fun. All things considered. Is that it no no. I got much more. I didn't know if you want to jump in with anything to natty state justin fields thrown into a pretty nasty defense week too yeah i i like houston. I'm excited about houston excited about derek king. I'm not excited about their defense and now that hasn't taken that game a week. One between lean houston and oklahoma i think is a recipe for a lot of points for sure. The cincinnati game between them and ohio state is interesting on a number of different fronts. Keep in mind that cincinnati one what eleven games lashes should have this in front of me. I want to say eleven games last year and they did so with a freshman quarterback in like a sophomore running back and a bunch of injuries across the board so it would seemingly singly be going pretty well for luke fickle. It was only year two under the lexical era at cincinnati and given the fact that ohio stayed aide there and they're kind of figuring some stuff out as well. I'm not saying ohio state is gonna lose cincinnati but cincinnati is going to play. 'em tough to lane auburn okay i. I i mean the i'm not super confidence to lane team overall. I like their defense a whole bunch like the way they finished the season offensively. They need to the needs to be a little bit better through the air but i think it's going to be tricky. I think it's going to be tricky for auburn and i think i believe it's the week after oregon so well. Maybe a letdown situation. <hes> <hes> wazoo houston we mentioned houston but you know was doing new things well as a new quarterback anyway on offense so houston really getting tested against them offenses early on <hes> <hes> stanford u._c._f. I think is going to be <hes> mazing why u._c._f. There they've gotten a lot of attention because their offense awesome we saw scott frost we saw josh hypol- year one put up huge numbers of makenzie melton and even though dariel matt gets hurt brandon. Wimbush is the starter which i'm sure you have thoughts about oh yeah. It's their defense and just overall talent level which they are. I mean they're as good as many many upper level power. Five schools and sanford is an upper level power five schools so this is just a flat-out good game. This isn't upset alert. This isn't like a little guy's. Gonna come take no no. This is a good college football okay. I'm excited for this. Yeah i mean with toray secondary. We're talking about richie. Grants really good. We talked about our skepticism around stanford heard when we did that preview. When did the pal preview and the defense isn't what it used to be. This is a really good offence for u._c._f. And i may be okay. I think it'll be stanford yeah. Defense will be fine. The line is sort of trying to figure it out and a bit questionable but the rest of the defense it should be good enough and offensively despite all the jokes. I made about brandon wimbush for the last two years at notre dame. He stills a very talented quarterback good enough to win. We saw that he's good enough to win some high level college football games. I think with this offense around him. He's gonna have an opportunity to thrive so this is a really good team. You mentioned the stanford game. They've also got pit. They've got temple. They've got cincinnati <hes>. They're probably probably the favorite in the american east the gap between them and maybe the next closest in american east has probably closed. It's not quite as much of a clear as it was in the past but this is still very good football team. I'll accept it apps state. North carolina doesn't really intrigue me as as a capital c. college football game like the previous one does but we get some insight into two new coaches i believe north carolina's starting sam howell right yeah the middle ooh baker mayfield and <hes> that's a fantasy things reference as you have to listen to were not just being randomly obnoxious were being pointedly obnoxious <hes> and upstate with eli drink quits. What do they look like bringing their quarterback back and zach thomas. I think it'd be interesting insight. That's that zach. Thomas is real good last year he was he was saying was real. Good last year. State was good zach. Thomas was real good talk about a dude. He's real real good <hes> georgia tech temple to finish out september september just inside again two new coaches one who left behind one of these schools great. I'm excited to see what i saw. What the tech depth depth chart look like it was like an effort based. Four to five is literally what it said on the depth chart as for what system they're running which gets my full enthusiastic suzianne support behind georgia tech <hes> but yeah temple rod carey we'll see i think it's going to be a new beast form but i am excited for this gap temple's been very good at hiring coaches if only because a large number of their coaches all their coaches over the last couple years their new coaches have gone elsewhere many as elsewhere in a month former tampa manny diaz. You're correct yeah when somewhere else in a month so the they've proven. I think they know how to pick good coaches and rod. Carey has had success elsewhere. I'm curious to see what he can do. In philly all right fair enough <hes>. Where would you like to go to speak further about some with these group of five games and conferences so dan. Here's what we're going to do on this show. I've got this list. <hes> like fifteen teams can really good group of five teams. I wanna talk through each of them and i want to see if we can place them on a totem pole kind of an impromptu ranking to figure out who are the real contenders the elite level competitors who can compete with anybody and who are the teams that are maybe a run or two below that just to try and provide some context because again you listed off off off the incredible non conference matchups that we're gonna see it stands to reason we'll see some upsets there. How do some of these teams fit within the greater scheme team that is college football in two thousand nine hundred and sound like a plan so i think how we define the top pack of teams is they can hang with basically anybody may not but oklahoma. Maybe not clemson. Maybe not ohio state. Maybe not alabama or georgia but after that top top no doubt about it group for these are teams that can give anybody trouble if not just win just beat a team so i will. I'll say u._c._f. Okay okay for sure is in that group i would i would love to put fresno state and boise state in that group okay. I'd put memphis in that group all right and i don't know if i'm there with ohio yet but i do like them a lot. I do like nathan rock and in ohio and the the bob cats so <hes> i'm with you on u._c._f. Because u._c._f. Has clearly been there for a couple of years really good football team. We up with you on boise because boise has also been there. Boise brings back a ton from last season and i think there are at least stay sixteen point favorite in lake seven conference games so boyce states can be going to be pretty good again. I'm all in memphis year. I feel pretty good about memphis office. I don't know if i want to lump anyone else in there. Maybe aren't put army in there. I should have put cincinnati in there. I should have put cincinnati an army. I think belongs in that conversation as well i didn't wasn't they're not technically grew five since they're not b._s. Independent but yes we we should be talking army absolutely as a non power five the notre dame type school that we should be some writing in this conversation. I'm writing these down now just so we have them so we've u._c._f. Yeah sorry if this is confusing free listening but we're really really just working this out for the first time here on the air. We've got u._c._f. I think that's a given we've got boise. That is also a given beyond that. I think we agree agree on memphis. Yes yes memphis is good enough to hang with pretty much anyone and then after memphis. We start talking about all right. What about fresno fresno's interesting. We up what about army armies genuinely surprise me. If army did not win double digit games this year you have cincinnati here correct and then we've got what you do about a team like houston yeah. I don't think you since there. I don't i think houston's there. I think defensively they're going to be such a an open book. If you will that it's going to they're going to be more of like the seven and five eight and four type type. Even if things go incredibly well on offense. It's just a year one thing to me dangerous wildcard but not upper upper level could hang with pretty much everybody in college football in the way that some of those other teams could cincinnati has u._c._f. I believe at home and houston on the road in consecutive weeks but otherwise is it's a pretty good lookin' scheduled till the end of the year memphis. That's that's what's nice. I mean they have ohio state early. It's i wouldn't say tough. It's a sizable the schedule but i think they're at the point now with defense quarterback running game that they can they can weather a lot. You talked about houston and i think the big liability for houston is is is clearly their defense. Do we mentioned eric king if we can we mention him again because yeah potential three thousand yard passer one thousand thousand yard rusher. He's got an incredible grouping of skill talent around him that i think will help my issue is of course the defense. It's dana holger sohn running the team yeah and dan a-hole gerson yeah i could see this team be anywhere between seven five and ten and to turn into a a pig ask really. There's a lot of area ability there the defense so mediocre. It's just a matter of how mediocre do the end up being and i think that's the difference between honestly two losses and five yeah. I think you're a little optimistic with houston. I think it's a lot of offense and that sort of it but i'm look i'm pulling up their schedule right now and we we mentioned the oklahoma get matchup and the wazoo match up so don't feel great about either one of those <hes> at two lanes going to be tough at north texas even though it's out of conference and a smaller our school. I think you know meandering offense cornell. Be pretty tough at u._c._f. Memphis navy. I imagine will be improved this year. After hitting a pretty low point last year is is. There's a lot there. That's going to really push this houston defense. I do agree with you though that houston's probably not on that level the defensive semi-fat at that level but they're gonna be interesting that that opening week game against oklahoma for a couple of quarters could be interesting. I think well i think they're gonna ultimately smelly lewis comfortably but i think they have the most exciting single player offensively of any group of five school if d._r. King is all right for sure <hes>. Let's talk about about north texas because north texas was not on that list injury yeah north texas might have the best offense offense in one of the best offenses in in the group of five thinks -obably the best offense in conference to say at a minimum minimum but really like mason fine really like seth latrell who's been on the background before talking through all things scheme. The defense offense loses standouts at both linebacker and cornerback which i think is gonna play somewhat of a limiting factor but the really good at at the back end of their defense. They know how to rush the passer which is nice. They've got a non conference slate slate against s._m._u. and houston which isn't crazy so it feels like this is a season that has a lot of upside. Hi potential is just look at the defense and much like houston. It's sort of tough to square that with the offense and really get a good feel for. I think this team ends up. Yeah good offense. Last year didn't always finish drive but they moved the ball really well. It's nice to have mason fine back. I'm not even sure which offense i like better. I just think it's going to be sort of wide open offensively conference u._s._a. Wise defensively there are other teams that are definitely ahead even with what marshall loses they were so so good last year up front and i was very excited because i thought they were getting. I'm talking about thundering herd now. I've shifted the conversation. I thought they were going to have a guy named ty i tyler which no official defensive lineman of the solid verbal but he transferred to louisville so alas no conference u._s._a. Tyler which it was all name u._s._a. So north texas is going to be good but you know redoing a little bit on offense but the continuity of quarterback and coach and okay skill guys is should be promising enough. They're definitely in that grouping. I think below the very top they probably fall on wines. Maybe a bit below houston and but they're kind of they're in the pecking order. Yeah offense took a step back last year but still good. I wanna talk about ohio next so let's do that. Ohio started started the year last year three and three <hes> and then after that they played like one of the better teams in the country <hes> they were really good overstretch last season and you've gotta be excited this year because nathan rourke is back always is always back. They've veve got a fair amount of depth along their defensive line particularly at end end at cornerback so group of five team pretty stout when it comes to key elements of their defense. I think that's something else that i like but they've got some issues along their line out wipe their skill positions and they've got real issues much like my notre dame fighting irish right up the spine of that defense. I think if you run right out ohio that could be a problem problem. That's something that frank. Solich needs to figure out frank solich by the way still coaching which is amazing. Yes the great thing about ohio is this was really a tale of two seasons like you mentioned last last year and so if there is any momentum to what they did at the end of last year which is winning what six or seven including the ballgame just demolishing a not that good san diego state but still when you shut out a team in a bowl that's the thing <hes> and they don't make it to the mac championship game but they still look like they were among the max best last last year especially as be as good as they got on defense you know in wyoming delayed october so i think i put ohio a rumble north texas then than merely as well because my questions on defense now i think i like nathan rock fell more than like mason fine more than mason fine. Really i think thanks oh yeah. It was really good. He's a senior now. <hes> and despite the fact that ohio has been really good in the mac east they still i haven't won that division stroh stroh as two years so hopefully for his sake. That's something that they can change <hes>. Let's talk throughout fresno now. <hes> they've got i think a fair amount of targets coming back from a year ago not the least of which is guys who come out of the backfield acfield passes but the new quarterback thing jeff tedford in the past has been pretty good at dealing with that situation the how aw great job with marcus mcnary oregon state bringing them in and look great. He's been outstanding in his time at fresno. That's looking like an incredible higher for the logs. I'm just not sure how high i wanna rank them knowing that this is their starting point with the new quarterback. The defense has been great recruiting has been really strong as it always should be at fresno state. You should be able to find plenty of high level mountain west players if you remember my plan if oregon slashed budgets by like seventy five percent with cherry pick whatever fresno boise and san diego state or recruiting because they're good at identifying those dudes that they can turn into drafts type. I players like n._f._l. Type players jeff allison was one of the more recent geise linebacker who is everywhere for the bulldogs. He's gone but there are bodies in the san joaquin valley so so i'm still pretty high on fresno state and we'll continue to do so include to be so unless proven otherwise so <hes> i think i like fresno coming out of the mountain west west again despite the quarterback uncertain fresno higher or lower then north texas higher. Oh definitely higher higher agree yeah higher lower than ohio. You had a high over north texas fresno's above ohio yeah presents above ohio. It's fresno above army. It probably yeah i. I'm always worried with army going down you know eleven points and that is having to change inch things up. A little bit is fresno above houston. Yes fresno bob boise fresno above alabama. Just shoot me. Straight lead is only played last year. I believe adam amine called that game <hes> they are not above alabama fresno schedule this year at u._s._c. minnesota to start the season off not easy so we'll learn a little bit about the <hes> the bulldogs early on but in terms of their road schedule they travel to hawaii which is always gonna be tricky and i don. I guess it doesn't work where you get a week off before or after because they you just have a schedule <hes> they're gonna go state but otherwise utah state's at home. The madison homes was decent about a team last year. I think they'll take a step back but <hes> all in all mountain west wise pretty advocate advantageous schedule. They don't have boys in the regular season. I don't believe they have wyoming the regular season who have been tricky these. If these past couple of years i think are going to continue to improve so yeah. I like the bulldogs a whole bunch. You mentioned san diego state last year. They had a losing streak which was uncharacteristic characteristic. <hes> they struggled on offense. The defense wore down <hes> and it didn't work out as well. It has in past years for san diego state right this year. They've got a loaded running back and they're going to run the ball walk. This is more of a spread luck but yes. This is what they're going to do. They're going to run the crap out of the ball and the schedule sets a pretty well for them. According to projections there her in line for like eleven wins san diego state san diego state. I'm i think they're coming back down to earth a little bit. I think they're more like eight nine wins. Don't shoot shoot. The messenger is say. I understand numbers like the aztecs what i mean. It's because what they like john washington they like the schedule. The ball schedule is very favorable now <hes> replacing a lot on this defense which is good bad who knows <hes> but died i just i don't think they have the pieces that they had to three or four years ago when they were just an incredible half team when you know keeping teams to like five point two points a game. Let's level to do ab state. Let's do it as we continue jumping around out of an alabama. Yes is the answer preemptive f- state's got new coach. Eli drink quits comes over from n._c. State he's got a really good healthy football program. Oh my gosh incredible app state is twenty second nationally and returning production so a lot of guys. Come back who've been productive. We mentioned zach thomas a full on dude classrooms first year as starting quarterback the the defense has been really good very consistent over the last couple seasons. <hes> the problem that i have with upstate is going to ted roof now. The problem with that is that scott satterfield is no longer scott satterfield no longer there but yeah. I have been part of that ted roof <unk> experience before that's true. You've heard me joke about leaky roof on the show dating back to his time at penn state. I don't i don't really know what to expect. I would hope that the defense continues playing at a very high level but i have seen ted reuss worked before and i reserve the right to be skeptical article. I think that's fair. <hes> they have a beatable north carolina team week three as we mentioned <hes> they get a chance at revenge on halloween against georgia southern the traveling the travelling to troy new coach at troy and they they're at south carolina's well later on in the season so app state has its work cut out for him but new coach and will helium charlotte on their schedule. I think they're going to be pretty good. I think this is gonna take a step back but not demonstrably so eight and four nine and three when you have the quarterback when you have yeah the pieces on defense which i always love that combo then we got. They're gonna be good. They're not going to be capital g good. They're not going to be like they were these past couple of years probably but but i like i like the talent. They have on this roster enough that they're going to be an every. I can't imagine them just being fully not in either what north north carolina the south carolina or the georgia southern game or the tribe and they're going to be an everything if not winning. You know damn near double digits. The thing is they're still far ahead of the rest of the sunbelt yeah and they're only going to be dogs against south carolina otherwise. This is still a really good football team. You i drink quits picked. A great situation agreed. I don't know if they're on the top rung but they're still in a very healthy spot. I think they're on the second rung. I do anything can hang with anybody on that first wrong but in terms of week-to-week was we saw them hang with penn state last year sure so i if if you consider them a first run team. I can't mount a significant argument against it. There are teams that i like in the sun belt. I don't think the gap is super wide but they are the class of the league yeah yeah so here's my thing with army as we move on army plays michigan an off season. We've been talking about how that's a tasty non conference game <hes> we could see that as potentially an issue for michigan. Let's i mean armies a potential issue anybody i liked. Kelvin hopkins lot took over at quarterback. Last year was outstanding. I'm curious now to see how the line reacts with bryce holland gone okay big time center yeah. We'll that they'll be fine still compete at that same high level. I think so the other thing is they lost their defensive coordinator to mack brown north carolina. I didn't think j bateman was great. He was fined the so much of their defense is their offenses is that alleyoop of the offense just completely wearing down the other team and the other offense getting a little bit cold on the sideline armies at michigan this year <hes> <hes> beyond that at hawaii is going to be that's a trip thai dailies get a week off before travelling seventy thousand miles from from the hudson valley to the islands in the middle of the pacific but otherwise was scheduled to get two lanes tricky at home. Western kentucky has not been good. I don't think tyson nelson's going to do all that much this year anyway san jose statesmen not great air force should be improved and they're they're always tricky and the game is in colorado but umass b._m._i. Navy improve navy right now not sure matters 'cause army has taken control so u._t._s._a. hasn't been good. Rice hasn't hasn't been good the the sure thing losses michigan and even that doesn't feel like a one hundred percent sure thing all right so let's do to a quick regrouping here of the totem pole. We've got a phone rings left to disc- wrongs at the top. You've got u._c._f. Underneath u._c._f. We've got boise down in memphis sound right so far. I would have fresno for for me in that. You know that group. I'm gonna put memphis. Above fresno has now boise above fresno. Both teams are going to have new starting quarterbacks. I feel like boise's got more coming back that i feel a lot on that defense. There's a lot coming coming back on that boise defense yeah okay i would still i hesitate to have any sort of tier or wrong with one of those teams in the other after that <hes> <music> after fresno. I guess we have what houston yeah houston upstate. I think isn't that conversational hieaux. I think it's all how do you feel app state versus ohio. I think i go hi o upstate upstate ohio okay now in some more upstate yeah. Do we throw san diego state at the bottom there there yeah i'm willing to talk about the aztecs their cincinnati. I think has to be on that app state ohio wrong well. We didn't talk much about cincinnati. Let's let's bring them up here yeah since we've only talk about memphis that much either but they're at the top scottsville bring up seattle bring up memphis yeah sure yeah cincinnati again won eleven games last year. Desmond ritter was a bit of a revelation now efficient in spots but he knows how to use his legs. He knows how to extend plays. You know how to work with michael. Warren the second <hes> problem this year is that they are rebuilding the line rebuilding the line if they can rebuild it and have some level of success. The potential here is monstrous. Yeah really good last year. The defense was very very good dominant against the run. <hes> i am very curious areas to see what happens now because they've got some turnover of front if they can still perform at a high level. They're gonna have an opportunity to show out against some quality opponents. You mentioned engine ohio state at run. Defense is going to have an opportunity to show what it can do if they can't get that figured out in a hurry if rid or can't continue to play at the level we saw last year. That could be an issue you yes. I think that's all reasonable but yeah i mean the defense with the promising backfield i think is plenty to have cincinnati and one of those wrong conversations <hes>. I think it's worth talking about. I mean there are there are elements of teams like even just in commerce say u._a._b. And southern miss both had great defenses last year and spencer brown is back back and should be incredible for the blazers your u._a._b. Blazers show. I think they're going to be a nice place. <hes> marshall i mentioned is replacing a bunch of dudes but defensively they they were in a great place. <hes> what are your memphis thoughts. You have them right under u._c._f. They've always been these past. Couple of years are not always so these past this past era era of american football memphis has been right there with u._c._f. I the offensive combination is super interesting. It's going to be a great offense. Yeah it will brady white. You mentioned demonte kasey joey magnifico magnificent at tight end. How do you not like him. The questions align <hes> uh-huh questions the line the questions the coordinators if they can get that sorted out. I think they're in really good shape defensively. They're very young a year ago very young a year. Go and we all. We were all a lot young much different world if they're a little better on defense that goes a long way. I like like the fact that you look at their schedule. They're probably favourite and just about every game yeah so for me. There are just fewer things to worry about so the pieces are in place. It's really just a matter of the line the defense playing a little better than they did a year ago and the coordinators not screw it up. I don't know again which wrong this is. I've lost count out of the tears. Utah states. Were talking about utah state. I've got him on my list as well. There were talking about what what are you. Let's give them something to talk about. I don't like love. I don't like that. They hired gary anderson back. He was good for them. All those years ago he will he was jordan. The higher. Yeah at quarterback is back doc receiving core though is entirely new. It is the offensive line question. <hes> and defense was so good last year here though their defense is really good last year love david woodward but there's a lot of turnover at linebackers well. Oh ended safety while we're at it the thing that's rough raf about utah state their schedules is doesn't stop. That's the problem i think they are. Fresno boise comes to town. They open it. Wake <unk> san diego's on the roads and he goes on the road at b._y._u. In logan i believe yeah but air force is on the road fresno's on the road wyoming soobee tricky a tricky out boise's boise's at home at least but not a lot of weeks off now for utah state and thank god they have jordan love and a pretty experienced defense but it's it's. It's going to test them for sure so let's round this out here. Yeah we're in agreement that u._c._f. Is one u._c._f. Is one boise to we have some disagreement over. I guess the next three between boise memphis in fresno boise next now. I'm gonna take <hes>. I'm gonna take fresno next okay. You're going fresno next bulldogs yeah then i'm going. I'm going u._c._f. Boise memphis emphasis in fresno. You're going u._c._f. Fresno boise in memphis memphis than boise memphis in boise okay yeah. I think it's gonna be a downturn for boise this year after that. I think we get into the next wrong is what i'm what i'm feeling here and that next rung consists of probably houston next and then in some combination of cincinnati and app state. I'm taking cincinnati over houston cincinnati over houston okay. I'm just i'm putting more value on defense here. Then we've got ohio and san diego state also on the list here are maybe two or three other teams that we need to place here before we can let the fine people go utah state eight. Where does utah state rank on this <hes> i the schedule has therein therein this worth talking about tier of group of five teams but they're at or near near the bottom. I'm gonna put them above san diego state. Okay also got in here. I would have army right after like. I would have probably probably after boise cincy somewhere in there. They're gonna win double digits. I would have ohio right around there. I think. I have an app state over ohio. I believe that's what i said yes but my memory is short. We've all i want to say. I think i have to have a high over san diego state last time. Two teams played ohio. Shut them the hell out for sure yeah. We don't have north texas on our list here. I have north texas. Maybe ripple upstate got below utah state bowl utah state while i'm down the main green well bet seventy five eight and four. I think that's it for all the teams that we mentioned here and i apologize to the listeners. There's this was a bit disorganized but this is sort of a real conversation. We're working this out on the spot trying to figure out we are. We come down on the group of five a lot of teams talk about a lot of teams to talk about <music> but at a minimum we have a consensus that or four favourite group of five teams are u._c._f. Boise memphis in fresno in no particular order. I'm gonna give you some wildcards okay. Let's let's rifle through them. Real quick wildcards to consider. I mean we mentioned too late a couple times but of all of these teams they might have the best defensive line and that is something that is something that is significant <hes> so i'm saying keep an eye into lane. They've got an angry wave logo. What's better than that temple. It was good a year ago even with a new coach. I expect them to remain good especially on defense <hes> conference u._s._a. Wise i think we covered everybody worth covering on meal lane kiffin an f._a. You they have talent on offense but man. What a step back last year. I mean what an incredible setback so. It's hard to see just a complete reversal again in the bottom of conference u._s._a. Is is in should be rough <hes> and that's unfortunate any thoughts about umass to mexico state b._y._u. You we haven't talked about. I'm kinda high on b._y._u. I don't know where they'd fit in among all of these teams as an independent but with a young promising quarterback and things in order. I think they should be okay. They just have a tough schedule. Listen to these these these first eight games for b._y._u. Yeah utah tennessee u._s._c. z. tennessee on the road washington at toledo at u._s._f. Which should be okay not great boise state at utah state. That's that's the first eight by before utah state. They've abide before u._s._f. Lasts who that's a slate and they finished pretty nicely with liberty idaho state umass san diego state both on the road but i think boy be boise. I think b._y._u.'s me pretty good. Well okay where they nine and four last year yeah nine one team. I mean bad ballgame yeah. That's they're improving. They're going in the right direction. <hes> other teams at least deaf i mean not at least definitely worth mentioning from a group of five standpoint. I don't know how and where they would fit in on any sort of wrong but i mean we we barely talked about the amac other than ohio but western michigan still decent eastern michigan had a hell of a defense last year pulled off a couple of pretty impressive wins and i you wins the damn conference and we haven't really talked about them. <hes> buffalo is good but loses a lot but i i really think they're really well coached mountain west wise. I think we hit a bunch. I mean we had hawaii at the top. I i think they're gonna throw on everybody and get intercepted potentially by everybody but cedric bird was crazy fun to watch against arizona and i suspect he will be against everybody else on hawaii wii schedule <hes> colorado state interesting moves the transfer game. I think they'll have an okay year even though they lose a good amount on offense <hes> air force. I think bounces back <hes>. I mentioned that i'm intrigued by wyoming. Nevada was a ball team a year ago. I think they're not as good this year. <hes> and u._n._l._v. is is dangerous. They are weakened without dangerous to either themselves or to ever. They're playing so i i can't wait honestly for mountain west football this year because i think at the top is sort of loosely defined in my brain but the competitive teams in the mountain west. I think run pretty deep so it should be a fun year. You're out west all right well. Please do right in. Let us know your thoughts on the group of five yup. We are going to preview show on. I guess wednesday wednesday which will go up and hit the airwaves on thursday morning <hes> we haven't set yet on the show. We did say it at her. Live shows this year. Solitaire will is going to feature a little bit of a different schedule so typically what we've done. In the past is a review show every sunday morning goes up around around noon was time eastern time here to recap all the action and then we do our preview show on wednesday. She goes up late on wednesday night this year because on that sunday show we can never quite cover the full scope of college football the way we would like. We've decided to add another show just for the season. We're gonna be doing shows on sunday which agok still around lunchtime eastern time as well as on tuesday morning very early. We'll drop it around six a._m. And time for your morning commute ease talk a little bit more about what went on in the past weekend college football and then on on thursday early morning again in time for your commute that will be the new posting time for our weekly previous show so yes owner does trace three shows talking about college football every week during the college football season yeah think of it like this. It's it's the preview it's the recap. Nothing really changes there and then the monday tuesday show that we're doing is trying to make sense of everything trying to see where everything fits and maybe answer a couple of your questions. Maybe do some segments. Try to stretch a little bit not stretching the the way of like kill time but stretching the let's touch on a bunch of things that we don't have time usually to touch on in years past asked we've done the <hes> the deep dive on specific teams. I think those will be sort of micro segments within that that newer big picture show but we're excited to we have fun talking about. Is this team better than this team. Is this conference looking real weird. You know if there's a guest that is going to add something we'll have him or her on and that's that's. That's the sort of cool thing that we want to <hes> to flex our our lean muscles doing there. You have it so arlene. Podcasting muscles lean podcasting muscles. We will leave it at that. Please dev right insolvable at djamil dot com. We will be back on thursday correct posting our week one preview <hes> relied on our website that sentence give it some za`z. I'm trying trying not to get too excited okay. Oh my gosh it's week one. We'll be posting details. You wanna get in on the pick him game as well. <hes> on website on the twitter <unk> feed facebook instagram usual hot-spots but take a deep breath because the season is near it is i'm. I'm excited for that. Go there my good friend dan rubenstein for myself ty hildebrand. We're back in just a few days to talk some actual college football in the meantime. They saw it the.

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Unplugged #19 - Megan Gauer and Calvin Wetzel

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Unplugged #19 - Megan Gauer and Calvin Wetzel

"Happy New Year hoops debts fans. Welcome to the first or hoop stats unplugged. Podcasts of twenty twenty. It might be a New Year but you still got the same host here. Meghan Gower walking back to the New Year. Spent a couple of weeks since we last recorded. We took a few weeks off for the holidays. And we hope you all had a great holiday break as well but we're back full swing and running for twenty twenty with a bunch of NC double a basketball content. We're seeing a bunch of parody. The season conference play is underway. We've got a huge non-conference match up on Thursday this week. Definitely stick around for that part of the PODCAST. We got some fun content from Both the Yukon and Baylor side from us and then from the players and Geno Auriemma. So you won't want to miss that later on in the episode but without further ado were diving into this year's first podcast with Calvin Wessel from our who does team. Hey Calvin how's it going Meghan? I'm doing well how you doing. Good Happy New Year to you too. Happy new decade with you definitely yes. Speaking of new decade we get to kick this off by talking about something that we probably didn't talk a lot about in the twenty tonnes with parody in the college basketball and think we saw a decade of you know couple really strub programs for years where you can pretty much one everything but not really the case this year at all and you had a great article about that for us. Like him out Last week so wanted to kick it off by kind of talking about that. Yeah definitely Definitely hope you're right. This is the decade of the parody. Last decade might have been better for you and your fellow. Uconn fans but This year we've already seen so I mean ironically. The article comes out at a time. When UCONN is undefeated number one but they had to get their third number one Thing is December twenty third when they became the third number one which is the first time since like the nineties that with three different number ones. Before Christmas a lot of times yukons number one like all the way through so with Stanford lose. And it's not just that we've had multiple number ones lose. We're having top teams lose to unranked teams like one is losing the two or three or four Stanford loses the Texas Texas isn't even getting. Ap Vote Louisville when their number to lose to Iowa state who hasn't even getting an AP votes so. It's just feeling a lot more of a anyone can be anyone sort of a world in women's basketball than it has been in the last several years in. It's really exciting. I think it's great for the sport to just in terms of marketability in growing. You know the fan fan base of the sport. I mean you think about any sport. No-one really wants to watch other than fans of that team. Like if you look at the NFL the whole country is basically happy that the Patriots lost last week. Like own wants to watch same team win. All the time in in more unpredictability you have in the more. A number one could lose. More people are GonNa Watch so I'm really excited about the direction that's going same. I mean it's been crazy all season long. I you check the ESPN box. Scores are like Oh wait that route. Three teams only up by five points on some random team so it keeps it interesting. Definitely makes you WANNA turn the TV on in Knoxville. Like Oh you know you conduct by fifty over someone again. Nothing exciting happening here so I think it's been really interesting so far a lot of like kind of must watch go to speak as you never know what's GonNa Happen and we have kept saying not to start the New Year so hopefully it will read the decade of parody but not just from our initial reactions kind of broke down. You know some of the numbers behind that in your article on how we can see not just from you know the people but other things as well that the parody really is there the season. Do you WanNa talk about that at all. Yes so I kinda got thinking about it just after seeing a few really highly ranked teams lose to unranked teams. I felt like this doesn't happen very often. So but just the fact that it's happened like two or three times our you know. Our many times doesn't necessarily mean that there's actually more parody. It could've just been random coincidence. that you know a couple number ones lose early in the same season or whatever so eh dig into the actual math behind it which you can kind of read the article. You WanNa Our listeners I mean if if you WANNA get get a more detailed explanation but basically just the ideas standard deviation is is kind of how spread out teams are in Spread out a group of numbers in so if you look at the winning percentages of every team. The standard deviations are lower this year as in the winning percentages are closer to fifty percent just on average than they have been in the last few seasons. That's kind of an over simplification of it but It's it's really like what we're seeing is real. It's not just Texas happened to be Stanford Now Happen to Louisville and Oregon. Baylor happen lose on the same day. It's it's one through three hundred fifty. One are all just closer together closer to the middle than they have been. You know in a long time. Yeah definitely exciting to see can makes conference way more exciting in that. There's not going to be as many teams running the table in their conferences Some tighter matchups throwing foreign January and February. So it'll be interesting to see if it holds up but I think it will kind of going into the season definitely will be a fun. March as wall with everyone can be everyone kind of Taliban that you get in the men's game the closer we get to that. I think the crazier women's March madness will get in comparison absolutely and we're still seeing it literally as we speak. I have Maryland State pulled up. I don't know if you have another screen watching that as well but a Maryland is still despite losing the northwestern which we'll get into a little bit still in the top five in our herbs stats reading. They are in a super tight battle at home with Ohio. State who's also still unranked Right now it's just the that'd be Maryland. Second unranked loss after losing to North Western's and that's the team. Everyone picked to to win the big ten. So it's you know. Has It stopped yet in terms of the parodies even as we kind of get into full swing conference play. Yeah definitely I don't on but I just pulled up the boxcar. They're up to at the end of the third so a tight one there. Yeah the big ten could be a little bit more up in the air. I think than people initially thought it would. I think a lot of people don't really would've had Maryland has a pretty heavy favourite to win that this year. But I think we'll get into it all about Moore later too. But big ten is shaping be kind of a pretty strong conference this year. Maybe not as strong as the PAC. Twelve but Definitely a strong conference with a lot of tournament teams. So it'll be interesting to see kind of who comes out on top in that one might not be a very clear-cut like we thought it would be going into the season. Definitely not something. I wanted to get into a little bit too when we talk about. North Western. Just the big ten in the pack. Twelve in con-. Some of what? We're seeing that we didn't expect out of the big ten. It's it's real as a big Tin Fan. It's exciting but just as a fan of the sport is exciting to we can Annenberg in a little bit but exactly. Yeah so we'll get into that back more later but before we hit on kind of you know the start of conference play and some of the things we've seen none of surprised us or interesting to us. It's kind of look back in relation to kind of the parody. But in general readers have four undefeated teams left on to Kinda hit on that thing. Let's probably a lower number than we've seen at this time in the season In other years don't quote me on that because I didn't actually look it up but it seems like it's lower That less kind of cut down nearly in half. I think since the start of conference play so it's been interesting to follow but the last four undefeated teams in the country right now would be uconn Oregon State NC state in Ucla so two PAC twelve teams of American team ACC team kind of any thoughts on most four teams might think will be the last one standing on the undefeated list. Well I'm interested to hear you say as well 'cause obviously you're real team in your team that you love to talk about all the time. Ucla and UCONN are both both to the last four so interesting to see what you think about that. But I am looking at this just in terms of the last undefeated in my mind. There's no way it's Oregon State. I'm kind of going process of elimination when I'm looking at this. Not because they're necessarily any worse than any of these other teams these other three teams but they're scheduling January's brutal. They have the Arizona trip next the next two games Both of those teams Arizona's ranked Arizona State is sneaky. Good then they play the Bay Area Teams. Which CAL is much improved? I coach Sharman Smith but Stanford can pick. Anyone often might even be favored in that. And then they play Oregon twice. That's their next six games. Five of those six are against the top forty one in the herbs that's reading which during that span. Ucla doesn't play anyone at at forty one you talked about this in our preseason review pod Like beginning November was that UCLA has a ridiculously backloaded PAC twelve scheduling all other tough games in February. So I don't think Oregon State's making out of that six zero at definitely think. Ucla will be undefeated still by the time that stretch ends Towards the end of January if we look at the other two teams yukons biggest chance to lose in January. Really their only significant chance. This Thursday against Baylor which will get into more in a bit But I do think they're going to win that game. Talk about that more when we get there And then they play Oregon and South Carolina beginning February which interestingly organ South Carolina in Baylor. Those three non conference games they left are actually one. Two and three in our rating Yukon has the top three teams left on their schedule. So I don't think they're gonNA make it out of that three. No I think even like two and one if you're Yukon Fan has to feel pretty good you. Can you tell me if you feel pretty good about that? You've got fan but you go to in one against the top three teams. I think that's a win for them in the NC state in terms of their schedule Their next game is at UNC. Tobacco road rival which should be pretty fifty fifty game. Nc states a little bit better but just in terms of the home court for North Carolina. Either team to win that game then. Nc State has to go to Notre Dame who's obviously way down this year but we talked about on our last podcast still off any moment In NC state s play. Florida state. Who was on the undefeated list until this past week so? Nc State has a pretty tough schedule to come up in the next few games. So I'm looking at Oregon State. Nc state losing in the next couple of weeks I think and especially you does make a pass. Baylor Yukon and UCLA OATH make February. Then it really is GonNa come down to whether Yukon can be organized or South Carolina or not for WHO Who MAKES A further? But yeah what do you think I? I know you might agree with me on the Yukon. Ucla's terms of teams. You like do you think it's GonNa last? He asked them for me. I feel I. I actually surprised if you come out of this week undefeated but we'll get into that more later on but yeah like you said about Oregon State. They're still strength is scheduled for the next. Few weeks is really tough. The chances that they're coming out of like I think they play organ on the twenty four th and then Home Against Oregon on the twenty six Sanford before that so the chance that they don't lose by them is I would say pretty minimal there. We've got a really tough coming up on that. I also echo you're kind of comments on the NC state schedule somewhere thing there that other kind of in a position where they've got some games coming up in won't be surprised if they drop one. I'm going with UCLA to be the last one standing. They do have the toughest pactolus schedule. They do have three in a row on the road right now though so. I think that'll be interesting. Team has struggled on the road so far this season. They've only played for two road games and they've only won them by a margin of like eleven points Some of those have been tougher teams. But there's also been some teams that they probably should've beaten by Moore and they're so it'll it'll be interesting to see how that pans out on their home against the to Washington's after that so they can make it out of that road's grads without kind of falling to someone. They shouldn't fall too. I think they're going to be the last one. Standings Got To play at Arizona on the thirty first of January. I think that's the first game I'd be like yeah. They could probably lose that and they did. The old kind of you know really blow Arizona out in the third quarter last night. Yeah we're into Monday so last night So it'll be interesting to see how that goes when they go back there but there are you know. Pac twelve heavy like opponents schedule is really backloaded. So they've got quite a bit of time before they face. The stanfords Oregon schools of the conference. So picking them to be the last undefeated on sticking with my preseason. Very bold prediction could still win the regular schedule until they lose. I'm going to stick to that. That is looking good so far and you picked him in the final four to if I remember correctly it might via so we'll see. I think most bracket predictions got him on like Tuesday. Three line right now. Not Totally Crazy. Definitely especially with the parity two or three is easily within striking distance of a final four run and you mentioned that the road trip it is the altitude road trip that their next couple games coming up so it against Colorado Utah so even those two teams are necessarily the best teams in the PAC twelve. But it's always when you go up into the mountains. It's always a little bit of a sneaky tough road trip just in terms of adjusting to that altitude in the home court advantage that the teams in the mountain area have so so. But you're right if you do make it through that they should have no trouble at home against the Washington teams and that alone will put them. We'll get them past that really tough stretch for Morgan State. So yeah exactly so that would be my pick but we'll see how it all shakes out if you had to pick between UCONN IN UCLA who you're going with. That's a good question. I think I would probably go with UCLA. Just because the Baylor game for Yukon is tougher than anything. Ucla has in the month of January But I do think you cons GonNa win the Baylor Game. Not so confident that I would. You know the force me to pay. I'M GONNA pick them over. Ucla Philosophy defeated. But if you can does win the Baylor Game I do think I would. I would make me switch pick uconn actors. Ucla does have that road gaming zone before you cons next. Tough Games against Oregon and South Carolina makes sense. I think if they went biller I'm still going. Ucla I'm picking them to win both at Arizona. So then they're Stanford Games until the seventh so still think you got you got Oregon. I don't think they win. Baylor an organ that they do that would be like you said if you come fan if they go to in one between Baylor Oregon and South Carolina should be very happy. Honestly I'd be satisfied with one and two so yeah. I can tell three teams in the country. Yeah S so you can't. Ucla that we both. We both agree that it's going to be Oregon State NC state I in Yukon. Ucla last correct. Yeah I think we both agree on that. So well actually not really. Because I'm saying you won't lose this week so never right if they win this week though. Then yes you kinda. Ucla last so moving away from the Yukon. They non-conference match up but still talking about conference place. Pac twelve will still be in there. What are your main takeaways? You WanNa talk about from the first couple of weeks that we've seen of conference play. I think we've seen a lot of interesting matchup so far but kind of give us a better idea. What some of these conferences are GONNA look like so. I got three three teams. WanNa talk about I know we talked off air about northwestern some of you might have some perspective on them as well but northwestern is while come out of nowhere they One was eleven of twelve. They did just drop that game to Iowa. Couple of days ago right after we decided we were going to give them all this praise on this podcast. So that that put a damper on that a little bit but they're still one team out of the. Yankees the top team getting votes I was fifteenth in her stats ratings. That's not a bad loss at all their other losses by to Paul they completely just put it on Maryland last week when Maryland was at the time the twelfth ranked team may people still top five in hhs so northwestern looks looks real legitimately despite that that pretty bad loss not a bad loss but the score was bad. I think it was like twenty. Five point. Deficit was the seventy six to fifty one against Iowa. Seventy seven fifty one so three seven one so this wasn't good but even coming out of that. I still think northwestern looks like a really dangerous team. That could could be a potential even sweet sixteen team this year. I'm hoping to get up there Enough to Chicago at some point and watch him play this year actually closer to Illinois but with Western played at Illinois like the first conference game of the season in house traveling. So you get to that one but hopefully you get to see them place though. Yeah definitely northwesterners team. Not Mentally was not on my radar until they beat melody that I went back and started looking them. And I'm like Oh wow they only have a loss of appall another one to Iowa so Still not about loss of an it was by twenty six points but when they beat Maryland by twenty three so a huge win over Maryland so a team to keep your eye on the big ten pressure. I think we've kind of said this a little bit earlier on but the big ten is Kinda sticking out to be a pretty deep conference a lot of really strong schools in there that are kind of emerging as maybe not. Marilyn's you're heavy favourite. You've got Indiana and that's been pretty strong. I think they only have losses to Baylor and UCLA so again to Not Bad losses at all got Minnesota Michigan State is always strong Michigan as well so a lot of kind of teams in there that could shake things up and like you said. Ohio state was close with Maryland. Right now so really. Anything can happen in the big ten. So that's going to be a conference to keep an eye on general I think my biggest takeaway from kind of diving in on North Western. Yes so so I had some numbers. Actually I looked up. Just on the big ten In terms of how good that competent conference strength The season they actually this one. I didn't look up. Heard Debbie Antonelli might have said it or one of the announcers recently but they had their record for their forty thirty nine or forty year. History this year For Non Conference winning percentage the big ten play Non Conference Games. They have a higher. Winning percentage collectively never have so that just tells you something about the strength top to bottom. I do think the PAC twelve is the better league still but I think the big ten is the deepest lead this year. I think just from if you look at teams like six seven eight nine in the big ten those better than the team. Six seven eight nine. Pac twelve and big ten has nine of the top fifty nine of the top fifty in our her who sets ratings. Pac twelve has six of the top fifty in both so I just think the big ten at the PAC twelve the big three especially with the big four really the Oregon School Stanford. Ucla are better than the top of the big ten. Especially now that Maryland isn't quite looking as good as they had been at the top but that middle of the big is is kind of ridiculous. I think he's Pans Brag. Dodgy has been getting ten teams in right now. Ten Teams in the field which is just voted. So so that schedule is going to be a gauntlet. It'll be fun to watch all year ECHO that you're right that they have ten in the latest. Espn bracket path has seven. So it kind of gives you idea that the big ten is definitely deeper. Pac twelve is I would say the better conference just in that. They're like top heavy with those four teams that you mentioned dumb kind of gives them some more star power over more intrigue kind of going into March and stuff. You're expecting to see three to four. Pack twelve teams on the top. Two seat lines. Which is kind of crazy. Could not like out of the question that you could have three number one seeds from Pat Twelve. So that'll be kind of a storyline to follow their. But going back to the big ten they are just so deep in like true like you're talking about parody like really anyone could be anyone with the exception of like the couple of the bottom teams On any given night so it'll be very interesting to be falling throughout the season and how that plays out definitely definitely could be that conference that as like five seven to ten seats something like that. Yeah liquor especially with the way leaders and the depth of it But like not being super top heavy. I think you could end up with a lot of teams from conference play. That they know are playing strong teams. But they're gonNA have less great-looking records at the end of conference. Play this because really there is the so much of a chance to shake things up on any given night. So you said you had three teams. You wanted to confidence comment on so that was northwestern. What's the next one? You WanNa talk about soils mentioned Syracuse As far as takeaways from the first week or so of a true conference play. Syracuse came into This past week six and six. Which is we all know how good they are. Played a really tough schedule. They didn't really have any on quote bad losses of those six but at the same time. Five hundred isn't it doesn't matter who you play. You gotta be about five hundred if you want to fit in the tournament. March so Syracuse was kind of perilous position really needing to come on strong. Acc play then. They come in this past week win too crazy. Overtime Games We all saw the first one. I think In Florida state with that amazing out of bounce play sideline out of bounds. That a coach quills drew up to to win the game with point. Eight seconds left And then they also had to come back a little bit against Notre Dame actually at home They were down three. Notre Dame had the ball with like thirty seconds left a shock almost off and the foul Notre Dame missed. Both free throws. Then they come back. They call timeout again. hills draw something up. I don't actually think Iran would drew up because it actually didn't look like a great shot is Kinda step back guarded three but went in tied the game arena within overtime so crazy week for them to get back on track. Get a couple big overtime wins. They actually had to overtime games earlier in the year so we might start calling him the overtime orange that four of Missouri but Just really big for them to to get back above five hundred eighty six now and I was actually looking up to after those two. Timeout plays the one to win against for statement. One to tie it gets Notre Dame just looking up some numbers on synergy so in terms of the efficiency on points per possession on after time outplays versus regular half court place. Like how much team gets better after. Timeout offense circus's third in the country this year so that really speaks to to Quin hills men. Just how his ability to drop a good player? It's not just. We all saw it against Florida state. But that's something that he's just been good at all year even just throughout the course of games so so it's cool that that's Kinda coming coming out in big time situations for them to help him win a couple of games. Yeah definitely. I have been only haven't watched the Notre Dame game yet but I watched the Florida state one. That one was just crazy. It was Florida state with kids up. See put up a bucket with leaving just point eight seconds for Syracuse on the clock And she had a phenomenal game for Florida state if we want to talk about them at all kind of one of the favorites in my opinion at least in the acc they were until back. Am a probably should be considered a favourite alongside Louisville to win the ACC by so she had a fantastic game on the name around. That crazy play Often I think coach said that it was like something he wrote up on out back. Worked so wherever you're at work So that was a crazy game on the that was like last Thursday night on C. Definitely a team to be keeping an eye on a rough kind of you know followed things for the non conference get so for them so they really arguing to need to have a strong. Ac kind of record they have some you know. Winds from the non conference over. They lost to Oregon lost to Stanford West Virginia Michigan's kind of teams. That aren't a big deal to lose two. But then there's one over loss to green bay which I feel like is not a great loss to happen the resume if you're trying to pick one out there that's the biggest issue for them going into March but so far their only conference losses to Louisville. So I've got a win over Florida state so they're pretty good shape The SEC is interesting this year and that it is not the typical ACC that we're thinking of where it's you know is Louisville or Notre Dame GonNa win it and then there's everybody else gets way more open than it usually is. Obviously Notre Dame is probably not a favorite to win it so it'll be interesting to keep an eye on as well. I'm just a I'm pulling up our ratings here actually Louisville Notre Dame. Neither of those teams are in. This shouldn't be surprising by name but Louisville's also not in the top three in as e C in our ratings fourth or status. I at number ten followed by Georgia Tech and NC state. Thirteen fourteen or GITEX. Maybe a team that has get enough love. Either they're just they love to grind and defend as a team that could could give people problems. Acc yeah definitely. Another team only has three losses so far so pretty strong resume for heading into the tournament on the again. Those I mean to those losses are maybe not great but one of those losses is just a Texas. A&m So superstrong team. They're They're two and one in conference. Why so far? So things are pretty wide open. They see so far and Georgia Tech. Does looks like travels to Florida state in their next game. So that'll be huge for Kinda getting a picture of the top of the ACC standings tech has a big win over Miami to Not TO START OFF CONFERENCE PLAYERS OR SECOND GAME. Looks like last week They did. Who's on the road wake forest but the other two games rutgers is getting votes in the top twenty five? That's that's a solid team obviously mentioned Texas. Am So Georgia. Tech's another one of those teams that you know especially we'll see what they do against four to state but if they even compete in that game Come within the last matter to a winning. They don't even have to win my book to to show me that they are at least true contender for for the top four in the ACC getting double buying ACC tournament agreed. I think that's kind of you know maybe under the radar game on Thursday. There's a lot of big games this Thursday but that Florida state Georgia tech winners one to keep an eye on for sure could be more interesting some of the other ones despite though like Georgia tech not being ranked. Yeah absolutely. That'll be that'll be multi-screen knife. Sure I will be at uconn Baylor. So I'll be playing catch-up connects day but lots of games to be keeping an eye on the score. I suppose we'll on that the other one absolutely it's exciting. Yeah I had one more teeny wanted to hit on before we jump over to a couple other comments for me. It's so Another team kind of in the same camp as Georgia tech that may be again talked about enough is Oklahoma state. I wanted to give them a little bit of love. They actually just recently cracked the top twenty five in our. Hhs ratings the head off year last year after being solid program you know for the last several years they fell out of the top hundred in a ratings they were under five hundred for the first time a quite a while but overall season they bring in the Tasha Mac Juku transfer who was the duke. Od One player of the year. Six four inside presence Led the nation in points last year. in all of a sudden her presence as change things on both ends of the floor for them to be back to competing in the big twelve. She's averaging seventeen points thirteen Africa bounds weren't a half steals and three blacks of fifty five percents shooting So she's just a complete force in his really changed things for them. They're a top ten defense in the country In large part thanks to her shot-blocking presence is really changed things. And they're the second best team in the big twelve. I think by about any measure this year so baylor does not around the table in the big twelve I think when they go on the road to stillwater will be their biggest test that that doesn't happen till February but that's another one that I have circled on my calendar definitely another kind of under the radar team in conference play. Could MAKE THE SPLASH. See a couple of more than I wanted to talk about going back. Of course of the PACK TALL. Feel like it's hard to talk about conference play without the twelve and of course you Gonna. Bring UP UCLA. But I think they kind of had interesting. You know two home games. This past weekend or so with Arizona State at home on Friday and then Arizona at home on Sunday I need the Arizona State game was actually probably the less anticipated game but ended up being the one that will more down to the wire was interesting in that. Ucla Kinda struggled with their rebounding in that game especially on the defensive glass with it was like the last play of the game where they were up by two or so and Arizona. State had the ball and I think Arizona state probably got like four offensive rebound on that final play luckily for UCLA. They didn't connect on any of them so they don't. Ucla ended up winning Not sending it to overtime but kind of a fascinating ending. Their that almost slipped away from them So that was a challenging game for them with probably largely to Arizona. State's defense but he kind of made a statement I think by winning over Arizona pretty handedly on Sunday. We ended up being a tall point win. But really they just blew open third quarter. I think it was a route. Twenty eight to thirteen. They outscore chairs on a buy in that third quarter so just kind of really run away with the game there so that one was interesting to me. I think when people think about the PAC twelve long time. I think unless you're may because I love. Ucla BA most people are thinking. You know you've got your top. Which is your to Oregon teams and your Stanford Team and then you've got you know and Ucla that are kind of vying for a fourth spot. I think that win over Arizona on Sunday kind of made a statement that UCLA. Maybe as the favorite for that fourth spot. I still think that they're going to win the regular season but most people probably aren't with me on that one so I would still say they're cutting no pushing themselves up towards that elite tier and I think the biggest difference maker over Arizona was just the bench production I think Arizona had just three points on their bench where Ucla had twenty To tell her bat was incredible for them on Sunday. She I think. Ten points and ten rebounds. This really came off the bench amid a huge statement Defensively and offensively for them. So I thought that was that the seat that they kind of got some really strong production off their bench definitely bench. Plays is one of those things. That's huge when you get into the conference tournament. Ncaa tournament time. When you're playing those games real close together you know especially in the conference tournament back to back to back situation. Sometimes in. You're playing no rest in your exhausted. Team has a deeper bench like that can really kind of flex their muscles more in those situations then when than regular season when you have three days between games to rest so that'll be definitely big for them. Yeah I'm looking at to your point about the offensive rebounding in the Arizona State Game Arizona state actually rebounded half of their own MRS which is probably concerning for Ucla at home against Arizona State who is a good but not great team. They can get away with a win still by giving a fifty percent offensive rebound percentage but that won't work once they get into February and play those other top three teams Oregon State Stanford if they if they don't rebound or half their opponents MRS in those games. It's it's over. I WanNa make close so if there is one one thing to point to you. I think you're right definitely that That's something that that they probably need to shore up Ford then I would say. Cla kind of Has relied on the other end a lot on their offensive rebounding to than top ten percents the country for the offensive rebounding rate which is kind of what makes their offense so strong because their field goal percentage is only is actually outside at the top one hundred. So it's they're not making shots on their first attempt. Those second chance opportunities that are really saving them. What has them kind of at that twentieth. About or nineteenth. That is in Her hoops outs offensive rating. So that's something I would like from them as well going forward is trying to clean up getting those first chances to be better looks and to fall more especially if they can continue with that offensive rebounding and get those other firsthand flex to fall more. They'll be a really great shape for their offense. Yeah definitely and you mentioned the. I felt like this was a nugget. We should probably throw out. You mentioned that their nineteenth in offensive rating also nineteen th in defensive rating. I don't know how many teams in the country are the same at both probably not very many on. Ucla could be the definition of a balanced team. According to our ratings definitely and then the other thing I wanted to hit on before we kind of move away from talking about conference play is the SEC. Because we haven't really mentioned them yet but they've got one two three four five teams. I think no sixteenth ranked in the top twenty five four and the top twenty So kind of another conference that maybe a sliding under the radar a little bit but pretty strong this year. I think we could all say for sure that South Carolina's the favorite to win it but the two three spot between Texas am Mississippi State Kentucky Kentucky and Tennessee and throw Arkansas in there as well. is kind of up in the air so no specific comments really there for me. Just wanted to kind of bring that up as well at their conference to keep an eye on wall. Yeah absolutely do you have any Anyone who you think might come out of that group to get second. Well I mean you always have to look at Tech Rate with Kennedy Carter. Really I mean. She has the potential to just win a lot of these games for For A for A. I'm definitely a player to watch. Mississippi State isn't a bit of a rebuilding year. But still I mean right thirteenth in the country so rebuilding as you call it. I don't know that's really rebuilding. When you're still a top fifteen team and I'd also throw Kentucky in there as well Had A big win over Tennessee? Yeah a big win over Tennessee on Sunday. So that's another one to keep an eye on. I'm not sold on Tennessee. Being the top team says they'll I think that they play they've gotten kind of up in the? Ap poll from a lot of wins in the non conference but a pretty weak strength of schedule. So I think the SEC slate will be a test for them. If they really are at that level. I don't know that I think that they are. I'm definitely with you in Tennessee. I'm not a I'm not sold on them either. At being as being that kind of top level team messy actually not fully sold on Texas A. and M. Either. I'm not sure if there's anyone else any listeners. Anyone else in the country who would agree with me on that but I m sold. I will say I'm sold on their potential But I feel like sometimes I watch them in a ball wash because Kennedy Carter is so good. It just almost leads to you. Know the rest of the offense being stagnant in they almost had a little bit too much on her and they I. They could do that in still make a run as good as Kennedy. Carter is one of those teams that if anyone can win relying on one player that much taxation but I'm still not sold on them being kind of that next level team right under South Carolina. See them more as like maybe three through five range somewhere team really like is Arkansas. I think to come out. Maybe get singing. I love watching Chelsea Dungy Plano. I love just the way they run. The floor hit threes. It's It's fun to watch from just an aesthetic perspective as a fan but it works really well too So I'm really excited for that. Arkansas South Carolina game. Actually on Thursday. We talk about Thursday being multi-screen night. That's another one that that's going to be pretty high on my radar to see if Arkansas can compete on the road against the best team in the League In really kind of make a statement that they belong right up there in the top tier in that C. C. I think Alec Form Thursday night will be will be big to show whether whether they belong in that too. You're definitely agree with that. I think one of the interesting things about the SEC. To is just that South Carolina is obviously you know kind of that. Top Tier Teams Everyone's ferreting to win the SEC. But you have to remember that so much of that. South Carolina team of pain runs through. Olea Boston and how Italy a Boston team plays. And she's a freshman so there's always a chance there and when she doesn't have a good night called Carolina is not as good as they are when she has a great night so thing to keep an eye on. She had a hits a Freshman Wall at some point this season. It could shake that. Sec Top standings as well. Yeah definitely. That'll be. That'll be interesting to see you. Once we get into late February march she performs some of those other freshmen to actually see. Yeah we we have that great article by Derek actually about the three big time freshman for South Carolina including cook and bree appeal as well as Elliot. Boston like you mentioned so The Freshman Wall could be big for just when you go when you have basically half of your significant rotation is freshman. That's definitely going to be something to keep an eye on down the stretch when it gets. Kinda lay season for them. Create something that'll make the SEC. Maybe a little bit more wide open than people are thinking. It's going to be right now. So as I mentioned earlier we're GonNa dive into kind of this Thursday's of coming big marquee non-conference matchup between UCONN impaler with some extra slow content. This week we've got Kelvin. Is Opinions of that match up coming up but we've also got some great content from our Non Unplugged version of the podcast hosts don little who is live at the SMU game on Sunday. So we've got some content from him. Megan I'm really excited. We're doing this podcast in. I was excited to be able to go see Yukon play in person for the first time this year when they visited. Smu obviously an easy win for Yukon. Eighty two forty two and I was there basically to wait out that contest. Make sure everything came out. Okay and then I just a cost everybody. I could with questions about Baylor after the game and that included Gino Auriemma the head coach at Uconn. He was asked actually buy another media member to start out here and there are several questions in a row that pertaining to the Baylor game but just does he feel like his number one uconn ladies are ready for Baylor. At this time of the year you know who knows who knows I think Thursday's game certainly be the toughest test that we've had no question about that you know. They presented different challenge than any other team. That we've played. I mean we played some pretty good teams but we haven't played a team with their size and their depth. You know their their style of play. So it'll be a real challenge for us when you play these games. It's like you're just accumulating data. You know so. We know a little more about our team today than we did yesterday and we'll try to apply that. Thursday's game and then Thursday will find asam stuff about our team really good and really bad and that will help us going into the next game. That's what this is all about where you cannot schedule these games and just you know win every game. Pretend everything's great but you have to get you know you have to get smacked around little bit. Today you can get stronger and Thursdays going to be a real real challenge real challenge. I mean don't get me wrong. They've they've got a challenge in front of them too but this is going to be a big challenge for us parts of this game. Can you take from the mostly? That defensively were able. Even though it's a different different game Thursday night different different players. We didn't get beat in the lane as much as we thought. We didn't get hurt as much as we thought in the lane. We can build an ad and help devise a better plan to to defend in the lane. And that's going to be a big a big key on whenever you play. Baylor you know with this is the second part is is the ball movement and away. Everybody got involved. We weren't solely relying on one one player. The ball move then. It touched a lot of people's hands and scored a lot of different ways. So that's something you have to do against a really good team. You can't go in there and say okay. Well we need these guys to win for us. That doesn't work that way. Last YEAR AGAINST BAYLOR IN WACO. It was very emotional game yet. You hope for that same type of emotion from your crowd on Thursday and it so well every time we play it a a really good team. That's in the top five in the country every time we play one of those teams on the road. Because of who we are. It's an emotional game. We bring out the best in in the best teams The Baylor game was no was no different. I thought the first half was incredibly emotional. Incredibly hard-fought and intense and what I took out of that game was that we got a lot of shots them. I mean we're pretty good shooting team and we didn't make them And they had a lot to do with that. So how will our crowd be a crowd a little more like it's Connecticut? He's our our guys. We see them all the time. It's Baylor just an ex team road. I mean on the road to where we're going to before you know so. I think our fans will be excited because it's Baylor How excited think that's up to us as a team to make them make them even more excited than they will be abusively. See how many people show up. We're playing downtown. I've heard some say that the game is more important to Baylor than it is to you just futures you guys have a chance to improve yourself more down the line in some other really difficult gains the you buy into that. No I don't think so. I mean if Baylor doesn't beat US and wins the rest of their games. They're going to be a number one seat properly or close to it I don't know I don't know about the big twelve. I don't know how how strong they ought to know what their conference rating is. But you know at at this time it this time of the year or the NCAA tournament or any other time. We've been around long enough to know that That's the case in every every game. We play like this. The same things come out before the game. This game is way more important to them than the guys because they need to prove that they can beat you guys. They can be Connecticut. Connecticut Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. I mean we've been doing it for twenty five years gets old after a while. I mean this game is important to us and it's important to to Baylor but Friday morning we're going to wake up and were going to either be pretty happy with what we did or we're going to be pretty disappointed with what we did and we got a game Saturday. And you know we've played in so many games like this in the last twenty years games like this. Just Kinda were excited about it. But that's it. We're not coming up with any any surprises. Appreciate that insight. Finally I'm just curious and you guys were game like this war just came back for them. Yes last game you even look at any of. Baylor saying more than cops or you gotTa You. GotTa play the team that shows up and they've managed to play pretty well without without. Lauren. And they'll play They'll play even better with her in the lineup. It's asking a lot for that kid who hasn't played a lot to all of a sudden command and be you know where she was last year at the final four so We don't know what which Larne were getting. They probably don't know either but either way I would say having her on the floor makes them away better team than not having her so watching tape of them without her. Yeah you can figure out OK. Well when they solved. This is what they're going to look like but I'd rather focus on what they're going to look like one lawrence plan just some great stuff there from Gino. I just love how he really thinks through everything and tries to give you a an honest answer to every question so I appreciate that for sure. Also talked with Kyla Irwin Right. After the game she went five for five in thirty minutes. She had four threes as well. She dished off seven assists one of her best games of the year. You'll get a plus minus plus forty one in that matchup. She might be playing her best of the year going into the Baylor contest and we asked several questions of her about what she expected from the lady bears. I think we're really excited. We can't wait. We know this month is GonNa be really hard and really challenging. But I think we're up for we want to be challenged. We WanNa get better every single day so I think we're really excited difficult. Is it to focus yourself when you're not playing a top ten team or something like Baylor and you know that game is on the horizon. What are you guys do as a team to make sure you stay focused through these conference sketchy? I think we definitely do a good job of making sure that we stay focused on that game. That's ahead not not the next game but the we have right before because to job of make sure that we stay focused and then also We know that we are preparing for those games so we have to still play as hard as we can still run the floor so social screens when we're told. Us threat switch so It's it's just all preparation. We don't like to try to take games off or thinking. It's easy because you know we want to play basketball. Who played how while we play? Last year's game against Baylor was so emotional. Do you hope that it's a similar atmosphere when you guys have them at home? Yeah I think the crowd in our fans are going to be a huge support system for us and I think it's GonNa help shake them up and be on our side so I'm really excited to see all turn out be loud in the gym. Senior like citing Kylo Irwin senior forward from Yukon. Talking about what she expects from this. Baylor game so we just heard from Collar Irwin who had a lot to say about the oncoming game with Econo- Baylor on Thursday but I think one thing that didn't get really adjust audio is that she might be one of the big keys to the game for Yukon coming into this match up. She had a huge game on Sunday when you can't play. Smu for constant conference play career highs in both points and assists with fourteen points. Perfect from the floor in addition to that and then seven assists for the huskies was a huge asset on offense angry of Tennessee. Herbie like a role player on defense for them. But she doesn't play or shoot much offense so It's kind of interesting to see how she can. Impact the game as a fifth option. I think One of the things going into this one is right that you can't house these four players that are really really good. Can kind of do everything philosophies? But they're also going to garner a lot of defensive attention from Baylor so who can be that fifth option? That's GonNa step up and maybe make a difference for them. On the offensive end a lot of people would probably point to a mockery out or Aubrey Griffin the freshman. But I think in this one. I think it's going to be important to have kind of a more better employer in that role cows the senior. She looks poised to do that to me. She is a bit of a statistical anomaly and that she's lake literally shooting better than anyone in the country shooting. I think one point eight nine points per going attempt so absolutely insane efficiency but with really low usage. And maybe if you can use her a little bit more against Baylor. They could see a positive effect on their offense. Do you have any thoughts on that? Yes We actually talked about her a little bit in our last podcasting and also. I know she's come up in our our Offline slack our stations as as someone we'd like to see get a few more attempts but also someone who really knows her role in takes the right shots. There's a reason why she leads the country in points scoring tenth year. Right I have aired. Is one point eight. Nine second is one point five and then it goes down a bunch of the one point four. So it's really not even close between her and second which like you said is a function of that. She has low usage but it's also a function that she knows the right shots to take She she makes really smart decision. She doesn't force anything Agree with what you said about having a veteran presence out there. This'll be the best team that Ankara has ever played in her college career. Baylor's better than anyone that you face so far this season Kyle just having someone who's Kinda been in these types of games for Just both ends of floor. You mentioned her defense too. I think that'll be huge for you. Com- totally agree. And I think also you just expect that that's going to be a pro yukon crowd but it's still going to be allowed cowed on Thursday night. He and just having someone that's played in that environment many times before instead of someone that you know. I think the U Conference of CNA When Notre Dame was or the freshmen have seen it. One Notre Dame was at home but they haven't really played that kind of environment necessarily so it's going to be a bit of a shock. I think to them and just like dealing with the emotional. Unlike the pressure comes from that so I think having a senior. That's kind of poison ready to step in that role and maybe be their fifth option on Thursday. Could be a big thing for them. So looping back over to John. He's got some more from Dean Richards for asked before we had into more Calvin lies an office. I also have the opportunity to talk to d richards on Monday. The guard for Baylor outstanding defender and really started off with her With a similar question just chatting with her about whether or not. She feels like her. Baylor team is ready. If they're playing well enough heading into this Yukon matchup I think are playing at a high level not to our high level. But I think we're going forward and I think that's the only thing that we can be thankful for him to be happy about. Where do you feel like personally? The team can take it to another level. Well you know I'll see this her second game bag so she's clearly not at her one hundred percent yet so whenever. Au sieg is her one hundred percent. I think we'll always better team. No I hear you there. Can you a as another player on the floor? Can you quantify? Can you help explain to us what it means to have her on the floor? How changes things for you. Even if she isn't like her full hundred percent I think it's just presence on the court you know whenever she's on the court I can you know pressure the ball because I be another. She's they're rated buckshot or if we need a quick bucky automatically hill sees so just having her presence to make plays and to play defense in rebound for her for us. I think is how beneficial she is. I think that's really well said anytime you go up against another great team you know all five players on the Florida given time can play. How different is that than some of your non conference opponents that you've that you've seen them. What are you have to watch out for when you think about how you attack both offensively and defensively? Just just how strongly are across the board at some point all of us are kind of were all just great teams office at the end of the day You need the team that you're there's a little things like rebounding less turnovers today. That's the team that are going to win because we all have good offense players have good defensive players and we all basically. No offense is due to scatter report. So I think who executes. The plays bessie rebounds kids. Let's turn overs. Yukon listening to them talk after their. Smu game yesterday they were talking a lot about dictating the tempo that that's how they want to play. What does Baylor's tempo this year? How have you guys figured out? It's best for you to play this season. I think every year since I've been here at least and I think before even Odyssey we've had you know a quick tempo kind of game as a team so I think this year our team is maybe fat way fascinating last year of course and We have TAB and not nothing against Lani. Lani was a great player but now that we have the list Smith brings more speed to the court so I think we're just a faster team this year. You know that's a great point and so what kind of game do you think that's going to bring then come? Thursday of a team that wants to push a little bit and Yukon. And you guys being quicker team. Do you anticipate a a more up and down higher scoring game than you saw last year. I definitely think is going to be a more up down game for sure. 'cause they also are fast team so I think both both teams because we both played up tempo game. Then we're both. We're all going to be running the ball up court one thing that I have been seeing some people. And so you're in the know you're in this Some people say that This game means more to Baylor than it does to uconn. And obviously you can't reach across and feel what it's like to be Playing on that Yukon side but basically their theory is Yukon. Got Some other big games down the line and this is you. Baylor's quote last statement to make a regular season case that they're one of the best teams in the entire nation. What would you say to that To somebody who feels that way that That maybe it's a bigger game baylor than it is to uconn speaking for us we. This is definitely a big game for bigger inference because it is one of our less games to kind of play team is capable of giving us a number one seed in this tyrant so I do feel that this is a big game for us nat case because whether we if we lose this game that's definitely gonNA put us in a tight situation where we're kind of relying on other people to lose to mess up and that's never personality must be in the energy that was involved in last year's game. I know that was just such an emotional contest. Can you recount what that was like? In the Ferrell Center last year was unreal feeling. We had a sellout crowd Khloe Lonnie LC kind of you know. Made a game like they went. They did great. It played well. That was an exciting game plan. Mulkey was intense. The atmosphere is intense. Is the same thing this year? So I'm kind of excited to see what this year holds. This coach Mulkey have a different intensity leading into a game. Like this During the week. Now that you've been around for several years you've seen her and at different points of the season. Does she get a little bit? More intense in practice and things like that leading up to it. Honestly mulcahy's very consistent. You know whether we're playing you know non ranked into a team still going to be the same intense. Ooh person that she is so preparing for you. It's like praying for every other game that we play for. Do you anticipate that You Know Yukon is going to try to bring that same intensity that they saw last year from you guys from the fans. Do you anticipate that same kind of atmosphere when you guys played at Connecticut on death legs I definitely think that had a huge factor when I think our crowd and that must be that we had kind of played a huge part so I expect them to kind of reciprocate the energy. Give them a an advance towards awesome. And if if you had to pick out one thing that that was kind of your key the thing that you're thinking about heading into this game what is the biggest thing you can do to impact the outcome of Thursday's game right now. Get back to the way I've been playing defense. I think that I've gone not backwards. But I've come complacent on the defensive end of the court. So I think getting more stills getting crashing aboard Defensive Rebounding Offensive Rebounds I think is definitely a way I can impact game in a big way that's DD richards. From Baylor Elsie is back as Dede said. Lauren Cox is back. Paler is at full strength. Baylor now number. Six Yukon number. One and undefeated can't wait for this match up on Thursday. Glad to be able to bring you a little preview audio megan all turn the rest over to you. So we've heard from Geno Auriemma Kayla Irwin and then Dean Richards from Baylor all kind of talking about Thursday's huge conference matchup between UCONN and Baylor on lots of good points from the three of them but coming back to maybe who you're less excited for From me and Calvin on our opinions of that game One of the things that Gino and deep touched on was the importance of this game each team. A lot of people are saying that it's more important to Baylor than it is to you on. I would probably echo that sentiment do any thoughts on that kind of reference Marching seating those implications first off. Let's not slight unplugged podcast. Megan odd cast is right up there with Gina Warrior. Emma in terms of what people WANNA listen to give the people what they want. But that being said yeah so I think Baylor I think a lot of people are saying that Baylor. You know. It's more important for them and I do agree with that from the standpoint of the schedule. I think if you look at Baylor. Non Conference schedule incomes. Non Conference schedule. Yukons was a lot tougher. They haven't played anyone in like in the top five Baylor but they played all teams in the top one hundred until they started conference. Play a while fit like full. Swing started conference play a couple of games. 'cause the last two games were the first games outside the top hundred in. We already mentioned. They have the top three teams in our ratings. Still on their schedule. Meanwhile Baylor played one of the softer non conference schedules in the country. The big twelve doesn't give many opportunities with only nine other teams in Oklahoma state. We being the best at twenty five so baylor just doesn't have as many opportunities for really big time. Resume winds like this is Yukon will so when they do get one like this if they want to get a one c they really. They really need to take care of business where you can. We'll get a chance even if you slips up here. Get Chances Against Oregon in South Carolina Still To you know build that resume for potential one seed Baylor. This might be for Baylor. Yeah at Echo that I think when you're talking about this game you're looking to programs that are looking to be number one seeds come march and you can't like you said has a lot of other opportunities. Diaz They've got Baylor sued a huge win for the resume but they've also got Oregon coming up on in February South Carolina coming up at South Carolina coming up in February as wall so kind of two other. Big Chances approve where they stand among the top teams. So it's not it's a Yukon is in a place where they want to prove themselves. They're number one in the country but haven't really played good teams but haven't played great teams and they do have a week conference so they do want to prove themselves going into Thursday. But I think when you look at Baylor leave a win over Indiana which looks good. Got A loss to South Carolina which you know is without orange talks. Maybe not a big deal but this is the really their last chance to get like a statement win on that resume that like shines outlets like high. Here's why we should be a number one seed in if they don't beat Uconn I think they're basically relying on other teams losing to get up on that top line. I think. D Richards alluded to that while this is really important for them if they want to be a number one seed going into March this is going to be is going to be the last shot of the signature winning even if they run the table depending on you know. We talked about the parody. They might have a shot. Because of that imperative this year a couple of other teams at the top lose they lose the Yukon and run the table in the big twelve. All the way through or one seed but they would like you said after rely on a couple of other teams losing in that case In order to get on that top line I think so they really really want that. Signature win agreed. Great thing another thing that stood out from what Gino Kyla D. Richard said was that there was a lot of talk about last year's game to me last year is a different game right. You don't have a new KANSAI NAFISA. Collier or anymore. The Baylor side-on Connie Brown anymore or Jackson. So it's a whole different kind of ballgame pardon the PUN but I think that last year's game was lost game in this year's game we are looking at a whole new set of well kind of key players going into it. Do you have any thoughts on who you know? Some of the key players are on either side furthest one. Yeah well to your point about last year being a whole different game One of the key players I was going to bring his Levian Nelson Doda and she actually played four minutes in that game last year. At Baylor This year you can get sit at home. She's going to play a little bit more than four minutes. I would assume so. I think this is kind of her chance to to announce to the world and say I am an all American Calvert player. Maybe not this year but in my career I can get to that level of being all Americans she can either. She can do that in this game or she can be the reason that they lose to if she gets into foul trouble and ends up playing probably won't before but if she ends up not being able to play twenty twenty five minutes if she gets into early. Foul trouble has to sit a bunch in the first half because she really is kind of the Yukon front line in a sense where you look at Baylor they have Lauren Cox back now. Obviously Melissa Smith Degrade Clean Egbo. They go so deep in that front line. They love to post up post up as much as anyone in the country. It left score around the rim. Their third to last in the country in three point rate despite that game. That juicy lamb had our script the record for three pointers a few weeks ago. It really don't shoot threes. They score in the paint in. Yukon is the paint protector for for for Yukon. We talked about our last podcast. It was right after well the last one I was on with you. I should say it was right after Thanksgiving tournaments and Baylor had just lost to South Carolina. We talked about how because Baylor scores so much inside South Carolina with Lia Boston MCI. Herbert Heron who both are big time shop lockers Con presented a matchup problem or Baylor really had a hard time scoring inside Miss Livia Nelson Doda plays up to her full potential and stays on the court. The whole game She will present those same matchup problems. It will be hard for them to score inside and she has gotten a lot better staying out of foul trouble compared to her freshman year. She's come a long way in that but it's at the same time. It is really hard to to guard. You know four different Baylor frontline players when there's no other shot blockers. There's no one in the top eight hundred fifty on you in the country and you can And shot blocking how side of Nelson Daughter where South Carolina had multiple depth on their frontline defensively. So it'll be allowed to shoulder. I think just defensively for Nelson Daughter In this game thinks she'll be how she plays defensively. It'll be a big Inscription the pain or whether they have to rely on threes which they really don't like to do like we mentioned on the other side Kind of the same reason I think juicy land room is going to be a key for Baylor Just because she is one of the few players that really does like to put up threes With any sort of value in they might need to. I don't know if they're gonNA need a record setting performance from her to win but they're going to need to need heard at least make a few threes in beyond with her shop As long as Nelson Doda is on the floor for Baylor to to get the win in this one I was actually looking up some on off stats and against top hundred teams which says all yukons games except for the last two When Nelson Doda is on the court opponents two point percentage thirty five point eight really low under thirty six percents to but that jumps into the forties when she comes off the court in when your team like Baylor who only really shoots from two. That's that's huge. So I'm looking at. I'm looking at Nelson. Don't have a big time game Juicy Landreau maybe knock down some threes to failure in it but I am picking Uconn in the end. Yeah I mean I agree with both of those takes from Baylor and you come perspective. Those two being can have huge keys to the game for either side on the Yukon side. Also add Megan Walker. I think she's been playing like an all American so far this season. But this is kind of you know you comes first top ten type tasks where they've got to see if she can can run the offense that she's been running So far this season against the big her harder opponent but also a bigger upon it and Baylor. So that'll be kind of a thing to keep an eye on and then the other thing that I'd like to comment on is kind of the point. Guard play in this one. Because you've got to experience Point Guards in Crystal Dangerfield for Yukon. And then take a cooper who's a Grad transfer from South Carolina to Baylor so to kind of elite point guards experienced candidates That are going to be facing off against each other so I think a lot of this game could come down to know who can get their offense running better and facilitate better from that position. Definitely it'll it'll be really fun to watch the the experienced guard match up with some of these are the you mentioned the four players From last year's game that left all went to the WNBA. Some of those. You just mentioned filling in this year's game we're going to be WNBA players to dangerfield projected. First Round pick on Lauren Cox's guard but she's a projected really high pick juicy land room. Shown up in some mock drafts maybe the second round. So it'll be really fun to watch some of these talented guards Play definitely agree with you. One thing I wanted to throw out there too that I forgot to mention in terms of the Three point versus two point aspect when Baylor has the ball is that not only. Obviously we mentioned Baylor is third lowest in three point rate but also yukons opponents get thirty seven percent of their points from three which is eleventh highest in the nation so you can allows their opponents to get most of their points not most but higher percentage than most other teams of their points from three. Baylor doesn't get points from three so baylor wants to do something different. What you cons defense wants to be really interesting to see just who who dictates where the shots come from. I think that's that's something. I'm looking for him. His game definitely. I think one thing. We haven't commented on in terms of you know key players is obviously the Baylor has learned Cox back for this match up or they've had her back for a game or two now so that's huge for them on. She might not be quite up. Full coming off of that foot injury but it's going to be a big piece for them on glad to see that she's going back for kind of busy no marquee match up. But any thoughts on kind of how she impacts on Baylor's presence on the floor yeah. I think it's huge because This is she's probably going to be. If you don't count you know what I mean. Four minutes. Last year that Nelson the daughter played against Baylor. This might be the toughest individual matchup. If if Livia is spending some time on more in Cox which I think she will spread spent some time in a lot of those pigs or cox might be the Best Bay. Nelson is guarded in his point of career. So adult. That'll be huge matchup. We talked about the guard. Play but Orrin Cox could could make or break if she's She's back even anywhere close to one hundred percent at this point Talented as we know she is presence inside will be really big for Baylor. Great and I think you also compound that with the fact that Baylor's really strong defensively all season long even without earn cocktail floor. I mean part of that is just due to the fact that they haven't played the strongest strength of schedule but even against some of those stronger towns. They've held them. I mean no one's managed to score eighty points on them this year. The best was there the most points. Another team scored on them seventy four from South Carolina and that loss. So you add Lauren Cox back on the floor. Now that makes them even stronger defensively. And she's defensive player. The candidate so only makes them stronger. So it'll be interesting to see kind of how that defense or how you can't able to match up against that defense and then also you know. They've played this elite level of defense. Against maybe a week scheduled of that with Lauren. Cox Back on the floor now. Does that defense locally conceal gone yes so I'm pulling up On off stats here again. For Lauren Cox and obviously she hasn't played a ton. He's played a hundred ninety five possessions so I think she's played in four games but that's about three four games worth If she if she played every minute of those games but when she's been on the court Baylor's defense has allowed a adjusted for shrink the schedule of allowed fifty four points for one hundred per Per One hundred possessions that jumps to sixty four on the bench. So that's ten full points per possession different with her on vers off the court which is with all the caveats off defense you know who is on the court with who they're playing all that stuff It's still is a significant difference in terms of the defensive efficiency when Lauren Cox isn't allowed so that'll be like you said very big on that end of the floors. Well definitely and one last thing on you come Bella before we kind of wrap it up. What do you think of the major like difference bankers for? Who's GonNa win this game Yes I think Mentioned Juicy Land Room. I think she comes out and knocks down even just three or four. Threes does nothing fourteen. I think Baylor's got a good shot but I also think The Yukon crowd might be a big difference maker last year's game. You know they don't WanNa talk about it. We can talk about if we want. But last year's in Waco in the home court is home courts even bigger when when there's more parody like we talked about at the beginning of the year because the closer to teams together the more likely the home team is GonNa win two teams that are completely evenly matched. Play the home team's favored so homecourt is going to be big enough. Thank you is what I'm trying to say. Meghan you're going to be at the game. You're a difference maker everyone at the game crowd. The crowd noise. So That's picking you Meghan your credit. If if you can't wins the game lost I'll be on press row so I won't be part of the crowd but I'm sure the craft will be different like you can take credit anyway. Yeah to me. Don't want biggest difference maker in this one it's going to be the rebounding I mean Baylor is obviously the stronger rebounding team consistent with their identity. But you can't becoming a much stronger round rebounding team. I think than they have done in the past and then they were at the beginning of the season. I honestly think it might just come down to who kind of owns the advantage on the boards. it'll be interesting to kind of see how it all shakes out. Definitely in that will go back to Nelson Doda unique key if she can. Obviously she's going to be the biggest biggest Rebounder for Yukon and Baylor is gonNA throw all sorts of big bodies at her at her in the paint. So I really. I like picking Yukon to win uconn. Does Win Nelson Doda. She might not even score point. That isn't even matter. But she's going to have at least four blocks at least ten eleven twelve rebounds if Uconn does win the game as type of Eight. I'm looking at her to have if you con- wins kind of of on that notion of WHO's going to win an entire new thing out for the end of the podcast stood off. Twenty twenty might keep it going through them the season. I didn't warn you about this. So sorry pick. Three Games already picked their games to kind of pick. Who's GonNa win the next week on the first one? Obviously we've talked a bunch about you. Got Off that one. I mean I think he's made it pretty clear that you think the winner of that one Yukon sorry that you can see that one. Yeah you're going right. I'm Ryan with Valor. Yes so all right. We're live on the first one. Good word it starts with. Yes Yup. Maybe we'll keep track see if me or the podcast. Guests are come out on top by the end of the season. But I've got two more petrified is on the first one is a pack twelve one. Because he can't do this without picking his told game. I feel like so Oregon State at Arizona. Who Do you have in that? That's a good one I am going to have to go with Oregon State. I think I love destiny. Slocum I think I know I talked about out. Big Home. Court is in Arizona will have crab but or stay is playing really well right now. I still think they feel like they're probably not getting enough respect. A lot of people are still talking about them as not being better than Oregon despite there being undefeated. Maybe they haven't played as many tough games. Debbie Antonelli has them as Number One. I believe in her. Ap votes she's an AP voter. I think I hope I'm not wrong about that. Thinks she has them is number one so they they WANNA prove that. They can't be the best team in the country. I'm GonNa go with Oregon State going with Oregon State and that one as well I think you know for Arizona to enough in my opinion. Mcdonald's going to score thirty plus points. Tom and they still might not win if she scored thirty points so ongoing with Oregon State as well not one and then the last one I have went mid major because this one didn't make our games of the week but a thing gets a big game. That's maybe you know kind of flying under the radar just because there's so many races ranked games this week but drake is at Missouri state in the embassy Friday as well that a pick on that one. Yeah I'M GONNA go with Missouri State in that. One Missouri States the only team regular season or conference tournament in the Valley to beat drake over the last three years Drake ran through undefeated couple years in the last year. Missouri Stakeout Him. Once in the regular season got him in the tournament championship Missouri State is trending upwards after making the sweet sixteen last year spending a lot of times in the rankings. This year And I don't think Drake is necessarily trending downwards as much as it looks like I think the rest of the values just catching up to them. jape around check has got me on a tangent now button. She's really done so much to lift the to elevate the entire conference in. Drake just dominated the conference for a while. You had teams like Lola Illinois State. Winning two games all year. Now the conferences. One of the top mid majors you have over half of it in the top hundred. Everyone's being loyal let took Missouri State to overtime the other day So I think everyone's just kinda catching up to drake more than drink Israeli regressing but Missouri as one of those teams. Who has already caught up to drake. I think they're gonNA win that game. Yeah I agree with you. In the depth of the embassy is definitely improving to stronger. Hamburg thought it has been in your past. I think Missouri State is the favourite in this one. But I'm still GONNA pick drake to win. 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NFL Week 1

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NFL Week 1

"Thank you baby into the game. You've kind of your money is how you find out who is best for my pets. Were safe. That would be juice. Juice point point spreads the prophets the teasers the parlays from vegas to you these these behind the bat sir the n._f._l. Season has arrived. Welcome into another behind. That's podcast. I'm doug kazarian taping. This september fifth thursday bears the air's packers tonight jackson. Are you ready. I don't know if i'm emotionally ready but i'm physically ready to watch them for toys. That weird feeling because summer's not officially over you know obviously september twenty first. I bit still warm out to get a little bit darker. Sooner all the way so. I mean luckily eight o'clock kick-off. It'll be dark. I'll be ready to out of it. Is that is very sure so we have a lot to get through here on the podcast. Mr now executive director is going to be joining us. We have baby bankroll bonanza. I'm coming out of the gates. Firing and eddie clay has some props. He has five props for all the prime time games one tonight trubisky under let's give you a little heads up if you're running behind but you wanna hear his breakdown and then also the other props trubisky under passing yards at is and we're going to get into break down all the games. There's been a lot of line movement this summer particularly with andrew retiring and some other moving parts if you i will and like i said we'll do the baby bankroll bonanza and then wrap things up with my clay so should be a good season should be a good podcast coming up and let's get to it and thanks to everyone for their loyal listeners member wednesdays. We do the college football card so that podcast as well so <hes> all right. Let's fire it up not started as a ticket writer. The handle has got a lot higher here in the last hour now. He's a racing sports book director of the guys at work your call me mister director and not looking directly into my eyes and wait when people brought in a whole new staff this year. It's kind of seinfeld esque move where we just rotate the guys to the material. It doesn't get stale bugs in between a hot tub and e._s._p._n. Kicking is for losers. Oh it's it's back the big the big open john murray. How are you my man good. I'm ready for football can't believe it's finally here real n._f._l. Football i should say we've had a couple of weeks of college but the n._f._l. Is is the big big deal around here and we start tonight. Is it though i was having that discussion. What's the breakdown on of handle a little bit more on the n._f._l. Now on weekend like this will actually handle on college football well. I don't know because it's week one. Usually it's more on college football because there's more games but if you if you do a by game breakdown n._f._l. Is is still by far the king that's when i ended the first week of n._f._l. The first week of foul is it's. The third busiest week of the year. March madness is number. One and super bowl weekend is number two and this weekend that we're starting tonight. Tonight is number three gotcha interesting so it is but but during the season i always felt i was always told it was about fifty fifty but obviously the volume of college. Show is the difference difference maker. That's what makes it yeah. I think now this week there's sixteen n._f._l. Games four primetime games. I think n._f._l. Will outdo college this week but the subsequent subsequent weeks i would imagine college without do n._f._l. By a little bit but then again if you break it down game by game it's n._f._l. By a long shot makes sense so let's talk about just the interesting line moves obviously with week one and we talked about last week with college football's week. One zero is that there's so many months that the lines can move and and whereas we don't see that the rest of the season for obvious reasons and we've seen obviously so the monday night or has moved decent amount with denver and oakland but there's there's been a little bit of movement ulcer. What sort of stands out to you as you've been behind the counter well. It's kind of unfair but obviously the game. It's moved the most indianapolis and the l._a. Chargers that's mostly because of andrew luck retiring of course but that number swan quite a bit we opened it charges minus three and a half we took money on colts is back in april. We went to three renowned. We went up to four thinking angela by mr game with an injury. Of course he retires. We reopened it at seven guys. Take seven with indianapolis right now. We're at six six and a half. Certainly that's the game. That's fluctuated the most one game that we saw some movement on last night. We had people taking four with jacksonville last night right right now. We have jacksonville plus three even money. We're gonna need that side huge win. That game kicks off on sunday. Everybody's on on kansas city but some of the sharp sharp guys they couldn't wait. They took jacksonville last night and the numbers come down and so they do the right thing getting ahead of it. What do you think they've probably did but i you know i wouldn't be surprised if they waited on a little bit more patient. I think they could have gotten a better number on sunday but then one of their competitors could have beat them to the number so and they know what they're doing. I'm not gonna question them so we saw new england and pittsburgh get up to six. That's down to five and a half for the most part. Yeah we're five and a half on that game <hes> <hes> i i think i saw five out there somewhere in town and that's a number that might also drift back up between now and kickoff especially. If a lot of the the favorites covered during the day on sunday then all these books are going to have huge liability to the patriots on sunday night football so that's what i was gonna ask you next is. What do you think will move the most us between now and kickoff. Well let me give you one. That's already moved a lot because i think it's worth talking about and that's baltimore. You know what i was gonna and ask you about this. This number went from three and a half. We gotta size seven here at the super book. There was some buyback at seven look. A lot's changed since april back in april where we didn't think miami was going to be any good but now they've basically shown the n._f._l. That they're punting this season. They're they're trading away. A lot of their veteran players is there. Accumulating draft picks kind of taking a model that we saw the cleveland browns do a few years ago. That's in my opinion worked for the browns. Browns are loaded now so that that's a number that certainly <hes> we've seen a lot of movement on and i think that plus seven i can understand why the wise guys got involved with the dolphins but this is just a team. That doesn't seem interested in being competitive this year. It's the squares play on the board. I just had to submit my picks for the e._s._p._n. Dot com chuck website and i don't care like i. I just think it's the right point. Squares play on the board and you're playing it anyway. Is that what you're saying squares win occasionally of course they do also later. I think here's the thing you said about sports has changed and this is why i was biggest. Season was the orioles season win total. There are teams actively tanking now are they throwing the ball out of bounds on purpose is ryan fitzpatrick and a hand the ball off to the ravens vince defensive ends now they're gonna try but it's the roster construction and it comes from up above and i really don't think miami is trying to win this year. I think they've they've have no offensive line. They have no kind of like real weapons. <hes> ryan fitzpatrick is competent. Obviously has his moments but this is a game <hes> where the ravens you just go in and win by double digits and they've got a rookie head coach as well bryan flora's coming over from new england and i think he's he's been set up for failure but i think it's the organization wants to have happen so i don't think he'll be held accountable when they do fail so. They're an interesting team to watch. I think next next year is going to be more interesting. I think teams will even more actively tank in twenty twenty for a chance to draft trevor lawrence twenty twenty one but sort of getting ahead myself there. I don't think i like to and i like herbert but there's nobody in this year's draft class that i think we'll have the professional level impact that trevor lawrence will have we've talked about it before that jet season where it's like oh my god they go winless and two and a half wins of the season window whatever it was that wind like six so i think i've tried to play devil's advocate. Just how l. bad is miami like. Are we sure they're terrible. <hes> and i don't think sure napped but i think this is a game where you you don't want to be on miami. Lot of sharp guys abed baltimore over wins. I can tell you that are yeah over wins and we <hes> we liked the ravens over. Dan said a._f._c. north going to be very competitive this year with baltimore pittsburgh and cleveland doing yeah. No it's going to be very interesting and cincinnati is another team. I've played a little devils apple's advocate. Are we sure they're terrible. Well i think cincinnati is going to be better this year than they were just because they finally moved on from marvin lewis they bring zac taylor and from the rams rams. He was the quarterbacks coach with the l._a. Rams under sean mcveigh when you get rid of a terrible coach. You can't help but get better. We've seen that over and over and over again in the n._f._l. Saw last year with the indianapolis indianapolis colts the problem. I think the bengals have is that division those three teams. I just mentioned ahead of them in the division may prevent them from having their improvement show up in their win loss record. It's it's what i think of the oakland raiders to. I think the raiders are going to be improved but i think their schedule prevent it from showing up in their win loss record. I agree with your point. Though i think cincinnati will be a lot. Can we say feistier this year than they were last year the phrase i use that they gave me a hard time with sneaky mediocre. I don't think that'd be that good but they started lashing foreign foreign to or something like that and they had really bad injuries so who's gonna be the inept teams i or are we just gonna kinda. Pour out for the jackson. Cleveland browns one win in two seasons season stretch. Yeah i miss. I'm gonna miss hugh jackson that was like half of my material and the media appearances i did was making fun of hugh jackson so i'm gonna have to watch closely this week to see what who the dumbest coach is now. I think miami is probably a good starting point. I don't know what to make of arizona like i. I really just don't know what to make. Kingsbury burry and kyle murray and arizona. We're trying to stay a little high on the lions because we know the money is going to come in on the lions on sunday. We got detroit minus three even money right now. I look out there. Almost everybody else has two and a half for the most part but we're we're staying a little high there because we really don't trust the cardinals at all. It is interesting. I think kingsbury was very vanilla the preseason i'm very curious. It's strangely one of the games. I'm dying to watch this week so <hes> you would think that when <hes> initial glance but i'm excited to see that game in the rams carolina's another game of certain we talked about it since two thousand the team that loses the super bowl's terrible week one. It's like three twelve and one or something like that or obviously the math doesn't add up to since two thousand sixteen games but it's something like that <hes> and that's the early time slot as well and carolina's catching three yeah we have actually we're down to two and a half on that game because we like carolina here the guys at the super book look. We like the panthers now. The customers don't agree with us. 'cause i can tell you that right now. We've got about a five and a half to one ticket count on the los angeles rams. He's certainly we're gonna need carolina in that game. I would imagine that'll be the case all over town. I actually just saw book another book in town. Go to on on that game so it definitely. I think that that's going to be a you know the famous sharp versus a square <hes> standoff in that game looks like the square guys are on the rams. Some the sharper players are taking carolina points at home. That might be the best game on sunday. <hes> you know i know everyone's going to point to the steelers patriots game but to me steelers patriots matchup. We've i've seen so many times i i'm more interested in seeing that ramps panther's game with you and seeing cam newton healthy also seeing maybe girly healthy and to see how goth looks <hes> after we last som- tom struggle in the super bowl so that'll be candidate number one for pros vs joes <hes> anything else maybe san fran tampa is another standoff standoff really not too much action in that san fran tampa game at least at our book. We've been kind of moving with the market and you've seen the forty niners go from plus two and and a half down to pick him. I know we feel that the forty niners defense is going to be much improved this year a lot of young talent on that defense nick both of the second overall pick the the question is jimmy garoppolo and i don't know what the answer is. Is jimmy garoppolo good. I don't know yet. I don't know that we have enough evidence that he's good. I don't know that we have enough evidence that he's bad i do. I do know that i like kyle shanahan the forty niners head coach and play caller. I trust him a lot. I just don't know what to make. Jimmy g. tampa bay is a hard team to project too. I love bruce arians but i don't trust jameis winston at all and that's another division where they're gonna be looking up at three teams. That are all better than their agree with everything. I i guess the main standoff in addition to carolina the rams is going to be chiefs jags. We've already talked about and you're absolutely right. She's jags will be the number one standoff. We touched based on baltimore miami. I can tell you a game of the books are really gonna need philadelphia at home. That number has been moved up from eight and a half now to ten. We had a guy laid minus four fifty. He bet forty five thousand one ten thousand on the eagles. The eagles are going to be included in so many moneyline parlays so many teasers and just a ton of straight beds. Whoa washington offense right. Now looks completely awful. <hes> trent williams. They're left tackles holding out case keenum gonna be under center. His first first game is a redskin going up against a really really good philadelphia. Defense could be a long day for keenum. It's hard to picture washington moving the ball against the eagles defense chance with the the state. Their offense of line is in. I do think the redskins defense underrated and better than people realize it is but i just don't know how they're going to be able to move the ball against philidelphia. No i agree when the skins drafted pretty well on the defense side. I thought you know they're getting a lot of alabama guys last couple years. I think they're sneaky. Good there sure i just if the giants were better. The redskins could compete for the worst record in the n._f._l. But yeah no. I think their defense will will prevent them from being being at the very bottom of the league but i know what you mean. Their offense looks awful. They're gonna fire the coach. Jay gruden the season and they're gonna blame it on him. It's not his fault. It's dan snyder neider bruce allin. They've done an awful job as a front office there with the redskins and it's gonna be a long season for them with that offense the other game that could compete wait for the best game on sundays atlanta in minnesota and i that number feels high with minnesota lane four. That's an interesting game for sure and and a lot of the sharper offshore books are down the three and a half. I'm looking at my screen right now. I see a lot of the more prominent offshore books agreeing with you there so don't be surprised to see that number go down between now and sunday and that is one of the more interesting games atlanta had so many guys hurt last season and minnesota really they went into last year with such high expectations after being in the n._f._c. championship game they bring in kirk cousin's really sputtered out last year disastrous loss week seventeen the cost them a playoff berth at home against the bears had nothing to play for but minnesota's might pick to win the n._f._c. north this season. They get delvin cook back. They got so much talent on defense. They need better. I'll put it very simply. They need kirk cousins to be you better than he was last year. It's it's that simple. I think he will be and i like the vikings here i do too. I am worried about cousins and i forget what the a._t._s. Record is against teams with winning records but it's not good. Where do you guys stay in here. In washington to doug. I was gonna say like it'd be careful with kirk cousins because a a lot of the success that he had in washington and the same thing about robert griffin the third a lot of the success those guys had in washington was when the washington coaching staff included couple of guys you may have heard of sean mcveigh kyle shanahan matlock floor so you gotta be careful looking too much into those seasons and and thinking that these guys are great players because they had really top-shelf coaching especially r._g. Three but cousins benefited from it as well. Well said well said eh. What about cincinnati seattle <hes> the the late game. I don't think you're gonna get a huge amount of seattle money like. I don't think it's going to be pushed over ten may get to ten yeah it might and <hes> seattle including a lot of money on parlays but there's a lot at one o'clock games this week and i think the betters focus is gonna really be much which more on the the giants dallas game and the indianapolis chargers game and that might take away some of the interest in that cincinnati seattle game. I don't think it's going to be heavily backed game at all. Don't be surprised if the number does go up a little bit. Dull seattle will be included in so many teasers somebody money line parlous so i've waited on some of the more interesting story lines so giants in dallas. This game was seven now. Zeke was rejected and the reports. It wasn't like he was completely out. Now he's playing i. I was surprised that moved from seventy seven half and now it's back to seven where i think it will finish sunday afternoon. Yeah yeah we kinda thought the whole time that the zeke would play in this game and that's why you're not seeing a big adjustment because it was sort of already baked into the number and plus the reports i read on twitter at least doesn't sound like zeke is going to get a full workload load in this game so i don't think you're you're you're not seeing a big line move because of him finally signing and really that's why that's a fascinating is needed game because could be competent this year. I don't know i mean i. It's it's hard for me to trust eli manning <hes> i think dallas you'll dallas last couple of years has really turned their defense over to a lot of younger players that i like a lot you know namely the the two linebackers smith and van deresh so it it could be tough for the giants to move the ball against dallas dallas defense the offense aligns much better so he like could be better than like or not as bad as we think it's possible i mean it just he lie the last few times i've seen him as just looked so old and i don't really understand the point of going for another season but i don't. I'm not in charge of the year. I manning come on now. I know i know but it just i. I never understood why they took barclay with the second overall pick. Even though i think he's a great player i think they should have invested it in a different position and i certainly think they should have moved on from eli manning after last year. I i just don't understand what the giants are doing. We'll see. I think they're going to be a little bit better than we realize and i think we'll be fine. I think you'll find. I don't think david jones is ready and i think they're going to try to win a few games like they're trying to win like six games this year maybe eight that's what the reds have been doing for the last twenty years trying to win six to eight games and i gotta tell ya it's a stupid strategy but again i what do i know. Let's talk about tonight's game green bay chicago. This number was i believe for during the summer it's down to three minus twenty with chicago and i've wanted to light green bay all summer and i kind of have but it just never felt outright which means like the bears of the right side yeah i don't we read four. We were at three and a half. There was some money on green bay three and a half. You know if you think back to last season these teams played week one of course game lambeau field but that number was green bay seven and a half came down to seven chicago really should have won that game obviously remember for that. I think it was the game where the catchphrase kicking is for losers was born matt nagy made a my opinion of very poor decision to kick a field goal that ended up costing his team team the game but you could definitely make a case number as overreacted to the bear success last year which may not be sustainable. They forced thirty six turnovers last year. I don't know they can duplicate that especially with their defensive coordinator vic fangio now the head coach the denver broncos bears have a lot of talent on defense but yeah quarterback play pretty average at best. I don't know i mean i think the bears are a little overvalued coming into the season. I think the minus three is right. I think these two teams are about even i wouldn't get involved in this game but i can tell you at least at our book. Most of the money is either on chicago minus three minus twenty or the green bay betters are taking the money line fine. They took plus one fifty right now down plus one forty five on the packers and is the bears money's at public or are pro. I think just public is both ways. <hes> ah i haven't seen anything that i would really consider to be a sharper player so far and i really don't think we're going to have much of a decision on this game. Unless one of of our bigger house players comes in and makes very large bet on it because green bay in chicago or just they're both such public teams. They both get a lot of money every a week and i expect both of them to get a ton of money tonight. Yeah and it's the openers in ireland game so yeah very possibly the most heavily bet thursday game of the year and the n._f._l. Just because of the the place on the schedule the first game and just because the popularity of the two teams and it's a very competitive game. It's a close game. I it's hard to predict. We touched on pittsburgh new england earlier <hes> sunday night island game to public teams katri. It's have a knack after starting slow but the the first time in a while no no killer bees just one being rothlisberger. Yeah i think for the steelers. I like a lot out of their their young defensive players. They got a lot of talent in that linebacking group and you have to think getting rid of lady on belen antonio brown. Those guys are great players but they were distractions. Actions to the team last year and i feel like kind of cloud is lifted over that organization. I like the steelers this year. I think they're gonna win a._f._c. North we saw money come in on them. Plus six. We went down to five and a half. We're gonna need a steelers on sunday night. I'm pretty sure of that. I think a lot of parlay bets will close with new england and certainly that's always an interesting matchup and will be very very heavily that game you know for years. I would always play the pittsburgh team total. Excuse me the new england team total against pittsburgh. I always felt like that was like just for some reason brady. They always had a field day with that pittsburgh <hes> defense but those are the old days glorify. I'm living in the past but there was already suitable. Brady hasn't won a super bowl and what seven yeah yeah go monday night. Obviously the marquee game is houston and new orleans and i've been saying all summer that i'm down on the saints just because i think at some point drew breezes gonna regress with age and i just feel like this is like a little bit of the passing of the torch in that division. I think carolina atlanta's gonna be finishing finishing first place. There and i and i love houston and i'm gonna talk about it with mike later on the podcast. I just love to shawn watson. He's gonna have an absolutely monster year so i i think we i think we have a dog at the right side there and i don. I wonder how much you're going to wear. This line is gonna move. Though when we opened this number back in the spring and april we opened it new orleans orleans might have seven and a half and right away. We got hit with wire money on houston. We knocked our number down to seven right now. New orleans minus seven even money. I tend to agree with you like the additional laremy tunsil for the for houston stabilizing that offensive line. We saw new orleans last year. They really started slow. They lost week wanted to tampa bay. They should've lost week two to cleveland if you can believe that and that was when cleveland had hugh jackson and toronto taylor as their head coach and their quarterback and they still almost won that game so new orleans really started ordered slow last year drew brees looked a little shaky at the end of the season looked like he didn't have much left in his arm. Maybe after off season arrest. He'll be back to normal but i i definitely agree. There are some question marks about the saints now having said all that i do think we're gonna need texans pretty big. 'cause i know that a lot of teasers and moneyline parlays that are alive from from sunday are going to go to the saints on monday because i don't think too. Many of those bets are going to include the late game translate trends. They're not always sometimes there are traps so it's a subbing. We talk about trying to trap. I do think there's something to new orleans starting slow especially when you haven't changed the quarterback and head coach but they're owen five live in their last five week one games. I think five a._t._s.'s me they've lost a few outright like tampa last year. I think they're one nine weeks one and two <hes> the last a._t._s. one and nine the last five years so there so we know about the patriots patriots never start out of the gates and their best peak form but the flip side of this is orleans also just absolutely money on on monday night at home that was that game last year redskins redskins get stomped by the saints drew brees broke the <hes>. What was it the touchdown record yardage or the yardage record. He broke record and new orleans just shaking in san and yeah it was great. Alex is a real real feel good story <hes> yeah no alex. Smith was not good in that game. That was an ugly game but this kind of reminds me. If you remember last year the monday night doubleheader the first game was new york. Jets at the detroit lions and that line was about seven to and all the parlays parlays that were that were left from sunday went to the lions and that game sam darnold throws the early pick six lions go up seven nothing but from there the jets just crush them and that was one of are bigger winners of the year in the n._f._l. Last year yeah. I do remember that when i had a teaser on that let's just say i didn't have the dog in the tease denver denver adver denver oakland so this numbers come down. It's interesting so the raiders sort of perception is that they're gonna stink this year because their schedule. They're flying the most miles of any team in the n._f._l. I think it's thirty two thousand miles and they have that month and a half stretch without a home game because couple road games by week in the london game so they're gonna go like over a month about playing at home and it's brutal but that sort of that that that those those facts have bled into the perception of the season and also the perception a week one but week one is different. They're at home. They're playing a team. That wasn't very good. Last year in the whole travel thing is not sort of run. Its ugly core so it is donald yet. Hey i agree with you. I mean that had no effect on him yet and we've we've definitely seen the number. Come down a little bit right now. Where pick them. We were as high as oakland minus in his two and a half. I think some money will come in on oakland as we get closer to monday. We got a lot more tickets on the raiders right now. Just some i guess players we consider sharper have been on denver. That's why i've seen that number. Come down but you know you just touched on it. If denver doesn't win or if oakland went on monday after that they play kansas the city at minnesota at the colts where the bears in england then they go at green bay at houston so i if they don't win this game on monday night they might start the year one in six six or even seven so this is a big spot for the raiders. I know that sounds ridiculous. It's week one but this is a big spot for the raiders. I've talked to some people around the team team that have told me when i say around the team like media people to cover the team. They've told me they think the raiders are going to be much improved this year but it might not show up in their win-loss record because their schedules so hard well. That's that's the thing that's very important and we talk about that with the colts particularly with this change from luck dubber set. They might win win eight nine games. It's just they're going to be laying to instead of seven and some of these games or whatever it is right so it's all about degrees and we talk about that even with tanking you know a a lot of people sometimes think that the n._b._a. Tanking teams there's value on the dob because they're taking to lose the game not to knock covers your catching a couple extra points because of the narrative tank and so the raiders <hes> d i'm jumping around a little bit but so the raiders might just not stink and get blown out and roll over for like a cheap suit but they still may not win some games yeah what you're saying saying i think is there might be some value playing them when they are such a big dog in some of these road games that i just reeled off and there's more on top of that that by the way i stopped i mean they still got stopped short there but they still gotta play at they got all three of their divisional road games in december so they still gotta at kansas city at the chargers and at the broncos in the month of december yeah i mean they're going to have a lot of games where they're pretty decisive underdog to say the least all right more with john murray coming up but first a message from dollar shave club. 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I think the most interesting thing or the thing people find fascinating is just the amount of money we found on the bears and the browns and those are those teams are one to in our super bowl future book. We've got big liabilities on both of them especially the bears first and then the browns had by far the most tickets of any team in the n._f._l. To win their division talking about the a._f._c. north. We've got them at plus one forty right now now. They're by far the ticket leader there. The other teams have been really popular. No surprise the oakland raiders. We've got a huge liability on them to win the super bowl on them in the a._f._c. west but i thought we could talk about the m._v._p. Because i think a lot of people find that pretty interesting. This is the first year that we've offered n._f._l. M._v._p. Bedding and the guys that we've seen tons of tickets come come in on our again from the browns and the bears baker mayfield deserve ticket counter here. We're down to fourteen to one on the the second year. Quarterback baker mayfield and we've got another young quarterback. We've got a pretty big liability on mitchell trubisky of the bears all the way down to forty to one entre bisky winning winning the n._f._l. M._v._p. We've just taken a ton of money on him. We've got a massive liability entre bisky with a guy that two hundred one and and you know i defended trubisky lassie's a lot. I thought he i thought he maybe didn't get enough credit for some of their success but to me the idea that he could be the m._v._p. Of the league is ridiculous. I just ah i don't think that the bears asked him to do what it would take to be the m._v._p. I mean they they. They pretty much. Ask them to not make mistakes. They win with their defense defense forcing turnovers. I liked trubisky but he's not an m._v._p. League m._v._p. Type player <hes> no. I think you're pretty safe there but then again their cars and other guy now derek carr is another guy. We got a big six-figure liability on. We're down to twenty five to one on car and again i i. I think the raiders are going to be much improved like just said but i don't think they are going to be a team that has seriously able to contend for a playoff berth and i think that would eliminate. This isn't baseball where my trump was the m._v._p. With the angels finishing ten games below five hundred i mean you're not gonna win the n._f._l. M._v._p. If you're not in the postseason the i'd say whence the a year he got hurt and then <hes> car the air yada those were like the most surprising m._v._p. Kant's that i can remember in recent years mahomes the mahomes. I don't think anyone thought an m._v._p. One hundred one one hundred mahomes is the wildcard is well and he actually won it. That's where i was going next but i don't think trubisky like fits the mold those maybe he's more like a car. I guess the year the car was great. I don't know i don't i don't i wouldn't quite put your bisky up there with their car. Personally now he does play on a much better team and that will certainly give him more prime time games and you gotta think the bears are going to have a better record than the raiders but i i just i think there's too many quarterbacks at the top of the league that both those guys would have to leapfrog frog to be considered for m._v._p. There's so many great quarterbacks in the n._f._l. Right now. I don't see how either of those guys could really seriously contend for m._v._p. Well you guys certainly hope that's the case now. It's been fascinating <hes> just tracking it all the action david than some great content for us and and you know all the all the huge liability is have always praxis up. It's fun but you know. I'll say <music> this. I was very surprised by the fact that we've written considerably more in the n._f._l. M._v._p. People heisman trophy pool i. I didn't think that people care that much about n._f._l. M._v._p. That's not an award that you hear a lot of people talking about during the season the way everybody constantly talk about the heisman trophy but because of the great response honestly founded this n._f._l. M._v._p. award. We're going to add several more n._f._l. Awards next season probably defensive player of the year offensive defensive rookies of the year just in yet another lesson that people will bet on anything that the n._f._l. Name is attached to because they feel more confident because they feel like they know the players and not yeah. I think they know they know the players much better. They know the teams better and they're just everyone's watching the n._f._l. Every week i mean we we both know that the popularity of the the n._f._l. Is just through the roof and that's why we're going to be so busy here this weekend all over the state and all over the country really good stuff my man you ready. Are you ready. Are you ready for the game. Show america's favorite game. Oh that ready for n._f._l. <hes> yeah i'm ready for both go ahead time far baby. Thank man's l. at the tunes marinate a little bit especially in the week one my body with the long skinny mike you're the game show mike like bob barker mike exactly all right man to man we're ready. We're ready for fell but we don't have a baby this year. Is there something you wanna tell me about. I was just about to say murray. You can change that. Oh what are you. What do you think we should do. Should we like. I see i think we should do is. I like when people do this stuff. They bet each other and the loser are asked to donate money to charity of the winners choice. What do you think of that wasn't that kyw's fund was. That was basically what it was that we were forced in a car. I mean i love chi- but we were kinda forced to donate to that charity i mean in this in this scenario we could each pick a charity and the blue routes donate to the other networks we think that works rex and then we have to do the same we might even have to match the donation at the end but we'll talk about that on the work of the charity of course yes we'll <hes>. We'll talk about the author. We'll have things ironed out for next week in the kitchen. The charity be my gambling fund. The human says here thousand thousand dollars donated your name and the human fund <hes> yeah we do that. We could do that he the human gambling but iron out the details but you one last year we played played a very much a tortoise tortoise and the hair. I mean you took your time. You play defense you just waiting for me to be erratic and firing anybody won. I mean if somebody had been booking our action that that person would have been the winter and then of course chi and his family were were the real winners but i don't know either of us middle middleweight week five and it was like all right i gotta at least i remember that i remember i was home. I was like wasn't that a thursday night game weekend. I went home for my sister's wedding <music>. I <hes> i was on the east coast and i went to bed and i woke up and i was like wow de hit the middle on that twitter for people going nuts over it so okay. We're gonna have fun with this. I am going to be very aggressive with my <hes> playing and we'll send me at all. I don't think you even need to announce that. Speaking middles a set up with a bit. I might even do some scalps with the money line now that i think about my god so we're going to play somebody better organized this stuff because i'll never be able to keep track of him riding writing it down <hes>. Do you want to go first or would you like me to go first. There's only two games. I'm gonna give out and we don't really have good numbers on either of them at the west gate unfortunate but also play them anyway. I'll go along with the show. It's it's all for charity so i like <hes>. I like the titans plus five now. They're on the road against the cleveland browns the play i gave mr. brent musburger yesterday on v. sin who that her yeah. That's a pressure spot for me. You know you know. I do all these shows but the only only plays i really am invested. I wanna come through from mr musburger. Everybody knows that so. I'll definitely watch the titans on sunday morning. Plus five. I'll do that one for <hes> what five fifty two one five hundred about that all right and what was their bankroll. We did ten grand right yeah last year. We had a imaginary bankroll ten grand. I but i feel like you're i bet eclipse. The bankroll itself. Remember correctly is white okay so we're going to do a dime a twelve hundred win thousand housing on the bears minus three okay but i'm also gonna do the bears money line any more than ten grand. We knew twenty. <hes> it's your show. I'm just a guest. That's right let's do for the bears are one dollars seventy in the money line right yeah. We have a dollar seventy here at the west gate. I'm gonna do fifty one hundred to win in three grand. Oh my gosh but i'm gonna do is on the scalp it back o._k. Hey then take your host. Take that prophet and then cover the juice of my bears middle all right. Hey it sounds it sounds like a it sounds like an interesting strategy okay but i'm only go with two so i'm just gonna go to straight beds each for a nickel i gave you the titans plus five my other one north carolina <hes> down a plus to hear some other numbers out thorough. I see that i'd rather bet but i gotta play by the rules. I'll take carolina plus too. I think they win that game against the los angeles rams. That's another sunday morning game and that'll wrap me up for the week <hes> week one of the n._f._l. Do nickel on that one as well yes sir and by the way somebody <hes> tweeted at a unto or asked me on twitter about middling polling very simple minus three plus four plus five and the game lands for that's a middle you hit both sides you risk only the juice of the losing side in theory if it's minus one ten <hes> so a lotta times setting up middle things like that <hes> guys tweeting at me and he learned how to set up the middle he did it with the louisville. Notre dame game took plus nineteen nineteen plus twenty and then played back fourteen and stuck the middle so nice job on monday night there. It's easier when they all work out easy. I wish they all worth <hes> worked out that while i wouldn't have to do all this media stuff and work all day a good for that listener. That's awesome yeah so you're on those two place. I have the big action action tonight. I <hes> i plan on playing back. Both my bears plays. I will take the over and the jets bills game. It's forty and a half hour. You guys czar yeah. We've got forty and a half right now. Jets bills over the total two teams with young rosters and second year quarterback. They need to develop to have any chance competing with the new england patriots <hes>. I think the it's for the first time in gosh knows when the jets have an offense. It's way ahead of the defense fence think that they have no pass rush secondary's really thin. The bills offense is better than people realize. The bills are probably the right side in that game but i've also been wrong about out darnold a lot so i'm just gonna go with the over and hope that both teams get the twenty but buffalo i mean we talked about it a lot on the show last year that they've really overachieved last season and and <hes> nearly. I almost lost my win total under on buffalo. If you remember that <hes> sean mcdermott a tremendous coach <hes> buffalo and the i like i like a lot of stuff. Their front office has done. I like a lot of their recent draft picks. They're a team to watch but you know new england's going to certainly win that division again. I'm doing a nickel on the ravens minus six and a half. I'll take the bait. How much was the the buffalo nickel nickel and then the ravens evens minus six and a half okay miami what your teaser juice in the n._f._l. Forty fifty sixty. What does that mean four dollars. Forty fifty dollar forty two teams like about this on the show last year. That's that's a lot. That's what it is. A lotta off shore joints edison and off shore joint. We talked about this on the show last year. That's why he didn't do any keyser's yeah. That's i forgot about that. That's that's a high that's high. I wouldn't recommend it's over those listening. Who have the option to do. A dollar ten highly recommended ten six point or where you go through three and seven yes. Yes i would agree with you. <hes> i remember back when you were with the hilton which is formerly the west gate. You guys had to change your teaser odds. I believe that's the story we did. Tell you last last year. When you told me about the dollar forty yeah i mean certainly i think there there was an advantage <hes> plan through those key numbers in the n._f._l. At that those prices especially the games with the lower totals you'd wanna focus there because the points would-be in theory more valuable and game with a total of say thirty eight and a half that in a game with a a total of fifty or fifty one right one final play then. I'll do a nickel on the falcons plus four. I liked that one okay and then i shall i expect to <hes> see you playing back on the packers tonight eventful game tonight and then we'll see if we have to press for the sunday. I'm happy you're dipping your toe in the water. Yeah yeah just just a mild you know grant and play. I think there's going to be a heavy moneyline. Parlay as well eagles teams like that. Maybe an eagle seahawks for everything for the bankroll because what i really do i really wanna do is get well. We everybody's i wanna big lead on you. Enforce you chase. That's my goal. I might take a while the long season it's now. We're doing this <hes>. We're doing this through the regular season or through the symbols good question. I think it should be through the regular season. What do you think i think the regular seasons better. We can just do it through. We think we work out the rules but i think there was a there was a protection in their built in clause were you can't just start triple hopper chasing and doing all that idea was there there had to be a maximum bet so that we couldn't just say okay. I got a million patriots. The super bowl care one so that's why the revised costs and i think the concept was the reason i don't like as much as i respect the super constant. It's just just not indicative. When people have their own bankroll you should be able to wager different amounts on different games and also have live betting second-half bedding and also just the concept of not doing the same amount of picks every single week and that's a truer test bankroll challenge. The true test is just that the super contest. You're trying to keep the format relatively simple no contest but i i want to do this. The spirit of the bankroll bonanza was a do something that was more simulated. Okay i'm <music>. I'm comfortable with it. Okay so we are good. I'll set up the spreadsheet like i did last year but i got a late start and we'll go from there man. This has been <music> baby bankroll bonanza. I am very happy right now. This is my last interview of the week. I'm gonna take a nap underneath my desk. Costanza style like in the little cubbyhole here and get ready for the start of the n._f._l. Season i call bs on. I think we'll get you will get rallied in rounded up for one more media interview <hes> yeah actually. I just got a text guy a few minutes ago asking is he talking about controversial but but this is my last one i had on the books between well. I got one on saturday but we'll see i mean everybody wants to talk about sports betting right now. I don't have to tell you that you know that as well does anybody <hes>. Everybody wants to talk about sports betting everyone's excited for the start of the n._f._l. Season as we are as well so good catching up my man and it's going to be a fun season listen. I'll talk to you. Let right geico presents aches another voicemail from your roommate. Hey pifer in the basement completely flooded anyway. I call for someone to fix it but in the meantime i was thinking we could finally have that indoor pool friday we will always wanted. I got him cool. Things already. Go and could you pick up some chips on your way home later. The geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if your roommate isn't the brightest pool float in the flooded basement visit geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance baby needs a new pair of shoes. Come on big pressure for you. Mike clay in here and <hes> yeah baby needs a new pair of shoes my friend yeah. I guess he does no idea what that drop is. <hes> it's a common phrase you hear a lot. Maybe the craps table oh coming coming out here but <hes> heavy studio here man we we did it last year. You were excellent. You've been on daily wager a lot. You're doing stuff dot com chuck section so i figured we continue doing ruin props here on the podcast. Let's do it ready to fire away so we had a couple of weeks ago. We did some season props. Let's roll up the sleeves. Get into the games. We have a season opener clearly tonight with the bears hosting the packers and which prop stands out to you is the ones you like yeah. There's one that stands out tonight and it's mitch trubisky under two hundred and forty eight point five passing yards like this one a lot i mean last season seven quarterbacks reached two hundred and fifty passing yards against the packers mitch trubisky despite playing them twice voice was not one of them one hundred seventy one yards in week one at two hundred and thirty five in their home win in week fifteen and in fact the only clear two hundred and forty eight yards. It's in five of fifteen games last season. Three of them came in four losses so the bears. They stole that elite defense. They're at home. They're favored. We think they're going to be able to run the football aw and also the packers defense a lot better too good safeties amos and savage they bring in this off season they add to their their ed rush with three new guys including things that area smith and preston smith and that cornerback room could actually be pretty good too and you know you look at the giro alexander and his second season so i think that defense could be kind of a surprise unit this season. He's in. I think it all kind of adds up to trubisky coming in closer to maybe two hundred twenty arts tonight. I was surprised the difference between the two quarterbacks what their props were to forty eight and a half breath and to sixty six and a half eighteen yard gap between rogers trubisky so that makes sense to me that you would go under trubisky because i was surprised by the narrow window yeah yeah definitely and i have i actually have kind of close to. I've rogers a tooth fifty three. He's gonna have to throw more but he also facing the bear so we wouldn't expect efficiency me to goodwill anyhow so yeah and i and obviously he struggled at soldier field in recent years and did well at home to the bears but eric quick trivia for you. When is the last time rogers <unk> scored. A touchdown in soldier field interesting the playoff game. I don't know as week one of two thousand fifteen a. m. He scored a touchdown so he's he has even thrown a touchdown soundness no he i think he missed one game in there too but he just each. They've shut him down. He's much now. How much adjustment do you make the fact that angios gone and then also it just matt leflore coming in and different offense. I think with aaron rodgers under center. It's going to be hard for that offense to be worse and green. I mean they have to the tools in place. De take it did not work out too. Well like you said. I think the defense will be better. They want to run the ball a little bit more but i think the offense can score march bounceback see a better season at aaron. Rodgers on the other side was chicago for me. Most of my will say <hes> assessment or analysis of a unit is going to be based on the talent. They haven't plan your move the needle for coaching for sure but there's a reason my vic fangio suddenly one assistant coach of the year gotta head coaching job at a nowhere last year and it's because that defense was the best one ever had by far on paper deeper and it still is it's still loaded lose adrian ammos embrace callahan. They bring haw clinton dixon buster screen. They downgraded a little bit but you still have all of these. I'm not going to list them off because there's so many they have studs all feel led by khalil mack. This is still the best defense in the league on paper all right so let's go to the weekend primetime sunday night. You got nothing yeah. I have nothing for sunday night too close to call sometimes the projection just a wine and you don't wanna get you know you don't wanna give people bad advice just four zero right so i'm nothing for sunday. We have a double-header for monday on and i have a lot for monday. Feed the people are let's go houston and new orleans. This could be a shootout. This is going to be a fun game. I really liked the over in this game. Yeah i cannot wait to see how how the texans look with all the changes. They made so a love to shawn watson. I think he's still underrated. I think he had an outstanding breakout your last season but we didn't talk about it because pat mahomes <unk> overshadowed everybody else but he was still terrific. I liked the over in this one the line two hundred seventy point five passing yards. I'm going to go over on that. He hit that mark six times last season. The average point two yards per attempt which is just terrific <hes> look at his yardage totals passing in losses during the regular season last year so one seventy six in week one that was a disaster. Obviously they started very slow before that win streak if he were called after that three ten three eighty five to sixty seven which is just under this marque and three thirty nine. They are a home home under their erode underdog playing at the superdome in this game. We do expect him to have to throw more than usual. Also the saints defense pretty good on paper last season. They were still third in terms of passing yards allowed also top eleven pass attempts against completions averaged at the throw yards per attempt completion percentage. They're very good team. Teams have to throw the ball against them watson's going to do that. Yeah i agree. I talked about it a lot on this podcast and the chalk space basically what watson had what was he had eighteen touchdowns in like like nine games or games or nineteen thousand eight games two years ago before he got hurt and it just takes time to rehab these injuries and we're seeing with carson wentz. Finally there's there's nothing embrace. I think watson's going to have a big year. They just had a tunsil obviously and it's just going to be better offense align and he has a bunch of weapons who knows about the rushing attack with houston now so i just think it's going to be a very much an aerial attack with watson. He'll have a big big big year of a big big game against the saints here. Yeah it was quiet until the tunsil move and the trades needs this past weekend during cut day and weekend but they really over just totally revamp that offense around him it is much better you've healthy receivers add kenny stills to cutie and fuller you have hopkins and tight ends going to look different with jordan in his second year in a couple of other guys who went to i are the offensive line not only tunsil but they drafted two guys in the early rounds to anderson at right tackle. Now i mean this is going to be an of course you mentioned the backfield's revamped. It's like a whole new offense around him and he was already very good very productive last season. What about you have another one with alvin kamara yeah <hes> touchdowns always tricky of course in this one's at minus one thirty five so it's hard to get excited about it but i'm i'm going to say yes to an alvin kamara touch and i haven't scoring one combined rushing and receiving so i'm gonna lean towards yasser eighteen touchdowns last season again another guy who you know a lot of hype and and fantasy circles obviously we all feel great back but you know you had a guy like todd gurley score twenty one and fourteen games so he kinda steals the spotlight but kamara thirteen carries inside the the five last year it was fourth most fourteen and a half total fourteen point five. I should say total o._c._d. That's is expected touchdown based on this usage second only to girly that tells you he's getting in a lot of work. You're the goal line a lot of volume you like that now. Houston only allowed five carries inside the five last season that was fewest in the league only eight rushing touchdowns that was eighth fewest in the league but they did allow five endzone targets and six receiving touchdowns at both were highest and of course. That's two running backs alvin kamara. We know eighty two catches. Each of his first two seasons seasons in the league is featured in that area and you know he gets that worked near the goal line too so would not surprise me if he does it in the pasture as opposed to a rush from the goal line interesting. I think yeah i mean this is the shootout kind of narrative so i'm gary dairy and we have a double-header obviously opening weekend oakland denver steve lady calling the game fired up r._a._m. Do that and i'm on denver in terms of plus two and a half plus twos. I'll play back here but that's a sidebar. You got to props for us. I do a both running. Backs accesible of the lead backs will say in this game <hes> we'll start with philip lindsay for denver sixty four point five rushing. I am going under under in his final three games last season under this marque five point four yards per carry for the season last year. Obviously he was hyped up. A lot of those big plays but three point eighty two yards came before contact that was second highest among running backs. You can't count on that and one point five eight after contact that was fourteen th worst among running backs. We saw him start to regress to the mainly in the season. The average two point six yards per carry in those final three games before he got hurt and the team new coaching staff. You mentioned vic fangio's there. They have not hidden this. This royce freeman in his second year is going to play a much legit buzz there. It's not just leave it. They wanna use both of these guys. They want a two man backfield and it's gonna be a three honestly with devante booker handling some passing situation so more freeman means less for lindsey. I think he's gonna fall short of this line by the way teams ran a lot in oakland last year but this should be a competitive game. I think the line is even right now but we expect this to be. A close game that means de denver's not necessarily going to be blown out a team. Mike oakland like last year teams ran on them so much because they were beating them that necessarily won't necessarily be the case here okay and the other running back the rookie yeah josh shake. I'm gonna go the other way. I'm gonna go over on fifty. Two point five rushing gnashing yards ivan with seventy four rushing arts sixteen carries so this one is not even close. I liked this one a lot. Jacobs is going to be the primary rusher here. You have jalen rashard hard handling targets and if you think well maybe they have a veteran to handle some carries to bring along slowly who john jay washington. That's the only other back there. They don't dare cars ars not gonna take an alabama's a triple a. f. l. team anyway so he's he's ready for week. One yeah and and doug martin was there. He's he was on iron and released for my are so he's gone. I mean it is the josh jacobs show we know he can make makeup yardage by breaking tackles. He was s in this in this classic college last season and we talked about this on daily wager doug eleven running backs picton around since twenty twelve the average rushing yardage total for those backs that season nine hundred and thirty three point eight yards that it includes duds like david wilson wilson like he had like one hundred counted the number is still almost nine hundred and thirty four yards these guys get the rock n la by by the way last year broncos defense fourth and carries and six rushing yards against allowed almost five yards per carry and you don't want to over eight that stuff but they're defensive front is almost the same right. Ah i know vic fangio's there may be that that is a factor but it is the same defensive front personnel wise pretty much so i think he he'll have a big n._f._l. Debut all right. 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2020-10-17 - KSR Tennessee Postgame Show

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2020-10-17 - KSR Tennessee Postgame Show

"Welcome everyone to the local Toyota dealers ks our post game show. If you've listened to me over the years, you know how big? How big this one is thirty four to seven Kentucky wins for the first time since nineteen eighty-four in Knoxville and they don't just win. They absolutely beatdown volunteers I. There haven't been many games where I've been happier than this one and I hope the post game show. I. Know It's going to be as happy as it can be. You can give us a shout eight, five, nine, two, eight, hundred, twenty, two, eighty, seven, go ahead and get online. We hope to have mark stoops join us in the next few minutes here during the fire segment to talk about the game but I just want to talk about a little bit about what we saw. This was as important to win as you could have for a program. They Kentucky has had a number of obstacles they've overcome in their in their progression forward is a program and they've done it. They had early on in stoops's tenure big win at home against South Carolina, and then the next year a massive win at south. Carolina, been a long time since we'd one big road games and mark stoops went and did it. Then of course, there was the win at Florida which I think is maybe the biggest win of my lifetime which got that streak. Out of the way and Announce Kentucky is a national program. Then you finish that year, you have the game that you lost, but you have the game against Georgia that's nationally televised with a chance to go to the championship you beat Lamar Jackson at home and get that victory you get ten wins and go to the citrus bowl and beat Penn state a marquee program. Then last year even on your fourth quarterback, you're able to run through play well and beat Virginia Tech in a bowl. But as everybody knows, there was one obstacle left. And that was Tennessee. I know we beat them three years ago but that game on the road is all was the last one the. Last one of getting. Old. Kentucky football out of the way. Two years ago they came after that Georgia game and got destroyed and I think most fans myself included probably thought it was unlikely could win today but to win that game and in Knoxville and a win at thirty four to seven to absolutely destroy them and in the process essentially end. All Talk About Old Kentucky Football. And records and streaks well, it is kind of the final step in mark stoops sort of taking, of Kentucky to another level as a program, you may have seen online. The one of the players caught stoops in a post game locker room comment where he cursed. But one of the things he basically said was I'm tired of hearing about streaks. We'll now he doesn't have to. because. This was the last one. And to get this victory today I think it's huge for the program. It's huge for the season all of a sudden, all the things you wanted to have happened in the season the right back in, play your to and to you know you could before no. Honestly, if things had gone better but you're tuned to you got Missouri because the change of schedule next week, you can get a winning record going into the Georgia game. You also have respect nationally everybody picked against. Kentucky everybody. Said Tennessee's the program on the rise Kentucky's not and Kentucky gets a smackdown. And I was very impressed with how they did it. I want to start with Terry Wilson that was a great performance by Terry Wilson. It was virtually every pass he was on the money. Couple Times early in the game I was like, why is he running out of bounds but forget it when he threw a pass, it was on the money even the ones that weren't completions. Josh. Ali. Catch where he was out of bounds what a great pass that was. The touchdown in the second half, the pass Allen Daily, which I want to talk about again in a minute was a perfect throw and Terry Wilson. Now has ended the Florida streak and the Tennessee streak. He's the first quarterback in sixty years at Kentucky besides Derek Ramsay to win at Tennessee and at Florida. Only, two quarterbacks and sixty years of done it and he's one. Oh. You know I know people sometimes. Get. Frustrated with they always focus on his limitations and sometimes even I do that. But no matter what he does for the rest of his career. If he doesn't win another game, we owe him I think a lifetime of thanks for the fact that he ended those two streaks and took us to a ten win season. How many quarterbacks have one more? Answer is not many. And he got another signature victory. I was really really impressed with the resilience of this team in the game was one in my opinion on the first two series of the second half it seventeen seven at halftime all of you and I conclude include myself maybe not all of you but I know I was in this group assumed. It was very likely. We were GONNA. Lose game. That's what you assumed. But the team did Tennessee gets I ball you take them three and out huge tackle on third down I. Think it was. John. WHO Grabs the guy by the foot keeps him a yard short of the first down causes a three and out punt that's a massive tackle. Then you get the ball and Kentucky puts the best Dr They've had in two in three weeks down the field some run some pass you get to A. Third Downs Rodriguez on third and three runs and gets one and on the next one terry throws that pass. Game, was not over then but you had it comfortably in hand if either of those series don't happen. If Tennessee scores on that first drive or if Kentucky struggles on their drive, it's a much different game. But. Kentucky reestablish dominance. In that second half and I think we'll look back those two drives, the first one defense and second one on offense and say that that really was where Kentucky sort of took control of the season a lot of the defense I thought played so well. Great not just the interceptions. Bosman fat. He re earned his nickname today that picks pick six was at a time. Nothing was really going right for Kentucky changes the game. Jamine Davis, his pick six thought to do was going to pass out. He was so tired. He said after the game again, it's something I probably can't say on the radio so I won't but he's Tim scared me to produce producer just stopped by right there. He ended up running all the way said I. Hope my Momma was proud. I was proud I know somebody else that was is mark stoops who joins us on the phone. Mark I love having you on these Games after wins that are big not just for you all. But for our fan base, this is one of them I said before you came on it's almost the last one of these like that gotten our heads you guys have got to be so happy. Without a doubt Matt just. Really. Happy for our fan base and. Everybody for all you guys. Everybody covers I know. How personal sales at times I mean there's there's A. Personal. Game You know when you invest in put. The amount of energy and hard work that we all put into it and all of them. Fans that the media, the players, the ministration you know. It does the means a lot and You know we've been knocking down doors and doing the best we can for years and keep on chopping wood and you know if you do the right things good things are gonNA. Happen I felt very close. even though you know we got off to the start that we did I mean you know it's a weird year. As I said, we just we were close in those games. Believe me play here, play there. But. I felt like last week we certainly put together defensively that I had confidence in our offense because the week prior we really played lights out against this and new just had an opportunity to put it all together and you know we didn't have to do anything superhuman. We just have to go out and play like uh-huh and play like. We did that today and result was what we thought. It would be if we just you know we're all supposed to do and so It was a great team victory certainly proud and and everybody's been support. You know it's weird in at halftime Europe seventeen seven but a sort of the opposite of the first two games. If you look at the stats, you'd have thought we were losing and I think a lot of people certainly fans were nervous and you guys came out in the second half and had to I thought dominant drives stopping them on the three and out and then driving down scoring the touchdown. I, thought those were the most to most important drives of the game. What did you think? Without a doubt without a doubt that was most certainly You know a big piece of the game. because we did let him get a little momentum let seven. You know prior to say the happened cutting cutting into the. but I also felt good because we weren't far off in the first half off either. You know the one now the fumble kilter dry, and then we had to take sixty. So you weren't on the field you know Kinda see the ball most in the first half because you lose essentially three suggestions right there but I felt like we had good place. But I do credit coach Lerman and coach Eddie grant they got in some sets they they talking things over at halftime it got some better sex to what they were doing and came down as far as whether they were able to run with us on certain things we got into better luck. And created some explosive runs and kept them off balance along with long with Rohan you know Terry being efficient rolling it. You know what I mean and moving the chain but you're absolutely correct. I mean that was the used start part of the third quarter. Terry probably played one of his worst games at Kentucky last week Luckily Kentucky still want but I thought he was excellent had a couple of plays at the beginning where he ran out of bounds and maybe he should've thrown. But besides that his passes were on, even the ones that were dropped wordperfect I felt like he played terrific. Is that how you saw it? I did I did that I? Really felt like he he did some really good thing. He May. You. Could have had read here read their early with the run game, but that's hard. You know we put some pressure on them with Reggie weather the pool in or give it on certain things and certain looks but but he was he was very efficient. You know I was really disappointed in the the touchdown I thought he did a great job on the third down they brought pressure they do you know they've lost a how he's back in there and delivered a great ball to keep. I've felt that should have been a touchdown and put up twenty one nothing I was really disappointed that we didn't bring that. In right there. The I I gotta ask you about Your Secondary. I mean after two games you were ranked as the worst pass defense in the country, and then since nine interceptions three pick six, nearly a fourth. Did anything change or two guys just start doing their jobs better I. Mean What's how do you explain that? Well. You know I think you know people. So you look around the country. Early in the season. There were just some some bad defense and That's not an excuse. I you know I I. Wouldn't it? Yeah. We were just a fraction off here. Fractional Stan I. didn't feel like it was anything for us to panic about a new Brad was a great job getting settled in institition but. You know part of that was just You know just not in predictable situations, knock it, and then predictable past not getting insert down maybe losing leverage just we were we were off now and it wasn't just a past just as a defense. We were just slightly off on certain plays. In hindsight we really want that out against old debts you know what I mean. Regulation and it's through you know in hindsight is GonNa. Be One of the better games played again all year you know. No you're exactly right Cole cubelic in Jordan Rajahs during the game noted something they said that the game the game it looked like your offensive line and Defensive Line we're not quite getting. They weren't wait in the line of scrimmage but as it went on, you were and and Cole Cubelic said Euros Game Plan, was you Kinda thought you could wear them down as it went on. Even if you didn't I, is that true I mean, it was call right about that. Well. I mean, we always feel like we're GONNA have success and keep on doing what we do. We're we're good. You know at the insensible run the ball of the world. So creative. It's not just I, mean, Earl Line does a great job. Swarm does a great job but also we find that and get greater than our run game that puts pressure on the defense also and you know and so and then we started hitting those pots. You know what I mean we started having the play action off of it and it all just depends on what they're doing. So here's the deal we get creative in ourselves. If if they play with numbers in there and take away the one we started hitting them with those little seen. Yes and those. Those are run plays also run calls, but we also have the the play action off of it and I thought Terry really makes some good frozen into good read on that today, and then we got them all sounds in the second half. We you know we had them off out. We were able to have successful. We have grown a little bit and we're You know pretty pretty creative in the way we're doing go credit eddie in an. Giang. And all those guys going into the season I think a lot of fans thought the sort of thing we didn't know about was the linebacking core and you your linebackers feels like to me. They've played great. especially the last two weeks Jamie Davis has been everywhere. Are you are you gotta be happy with the way their performance has been considering a lot of didn't play a ton in years past jj waiver jared. Casey Etcetera. Yeah. No doubt. I. Mean I thought You know both of those guys are are getting valuable rats and creating depth for us and really good football players and you know jared has been playing to it and then inside Leva fine. Rosa Jamie and obviously in the Andrea played really good football. But Jj you know really has a couple of players that. Need today. So long he's a big dude and so you know he he makes to correct advocate. Did. We lose him their temporary. Various theories. I got you just broke up for a second just a couple of questions. I'll let you go I know you are going on the road tell me what the locker rooms like I saw I saw. I saw the videos in the locker room. It looked crazy happy. I've been in one of those locker rooms after a road win and I know what? It's like. What was it like today had to be wonderful. It really was. It was just a lot of fun. You know just the guys really believe and buy in and and play for each other you know coach L- arm. Really. gave us a nice motivational this morning at the hotel before we laugh. And You Know I. Think you know our guys get it. They cared. For each other and and so it's very gratifying. Go on the road. And have a hard fought victory and play as a team wanted to. It's a lot of fun. It was it was great. It was great. I don't think the average fan gets what you guys have been going through and what with coach Lauren and what happened with Chris Oats and we saw the story from from Kyle this week cal Tucker about coach and but. It has been and even go back to you last year with Josh Paschal. It feels like to me the emotion around your team during positive moments is so much stronger because of what those, what you've gone through what the team has gone through what those young men have gone through in the last couple of years. Well. How can they not you know how could you not be affected? You know it was. Artemije message starting on Monday the the you know the big rightful. You know we have gratitude. Grateful for the opportunity and for each other and you don't have to see in crest and in the end really truthfully seeing what's on those through on a daily basis. You know it's really hard. You know we don't. We really haven't talked about it all that. Much. So a couple of years, but it's getting no point works pretty. Remarkable and you know concerning and And you know this, this game means something the John You know his team main something to John and I saw something in that interview that I don't even think within the article. tile I saw cow shared it with me about you know when they ask John You know y you know how you know when you don't feel like feeder killing you when they're when you're feeling as bad as you are like, what what makes you, what what motivates you to still continue in, go to practice you know and and be there in just simply said for the team. For the guys you know and that's just two years and very mild fact and very the point and it means something so. You know it really is. So you know for every every fan out there that it's important. We know what we need to. We want to support us and when need that support but I promise you it's personal players, coaches and the amount of working effort to put in Really can't even describe it and you see a guy like John going through what he's going through and still point US heart and soul into it. It was very gratifying for me to give him the game ball today because he deserves it Morton anybody in the world and You know we're grateful to have him and You know just a good fun team with. The fact that that man is there in that locker room and on that practice field if that's not inspirational, the folks I don't know what is last thing I'll let you go. It's Tennessee. I grew up hating Tennessee living on the border for a lot of fans Tennessee is massive. It's also massive. You were crude against them. There you know all of this this this one has to be a little sweeter than the average one. All right. Hey Amman Jordan this bus ride from sipping on Bourbon Komo go home and have a cigar that. Tells me a lot right there. Mark. Enjoy the trip back by the way you have to stop it. You have to stop at Cumberland College or university that combines they. Do this. That's right. Thank you. That was a good stop for that was really good when they trick that's great and we had a great day yesterday so that that really helped out as well. appreciated. Have Fun. Thank you very much. You could tell when he's really happy and that's certainly one of them. We will take a break. We'll take your calls. I'm sure you're happy to five. Right Eight, five, nine, two, eight, Oh, twenty, two, eighty, seven. This is a happy local Toyota dealers ks our post game show. We'll be right back. Back it is local Toyota Dealers K.. Sr game show a couple of things I. Wanted I. Find Interesting that we have our AI roofing stat of the day. You have roofing needs in the Central Kentucky Area AIC roofing is the place for you. The official Roofer of Kentucky Sports Radio a couple of things first of all Kentucky to had the same amount of first downs eighteen but Kentucky was six of twelve on third down Tennessee was to of twelve, and that's a huge difference because some of those third downs Tennessee came like a yard short and those were big punts they ended up deciding to do because they were a yard short. I. Thought Her Third Down Defense was very good. The other thing is look we ended up only with seven more yards than they did. Think about that we want thirty four to seven, but only seven more yards than they did. That means Kentucky made big plays when they had to make it, they were able to make game changing plays and they were able to win the sort of. You know fifty fifty moments of a game. We did not do that against Auburn. We did not do that against Ole Miss. We have the last two weeks and against Mississippi state had fewer yards today only had seven more yards and still won both of those games handling. All right. Let's get started Tim who's up I Jordan how are you Jordan? Hey Matt. I am doing absolutely fantastic. Now I called my dad after to I've watched. So many of these Games lists and he actually got the hospital with heart issues the other day and told me he may not be able to watch it close game but you know it was never really that close to the game the entire time I mean we just dominated thoroughly, and also for all the you know people like to criticize grant, he made some fantastic adjustment. That's That's true Jordan. Ah, you're completely right about that. We never we've been very critical over the years about halftime adjustments and in the second. Half Kentucky was a dominant better team and the first half Tennessee was better with that with the exception of the pick six the to pick sixes were the only things that had Kentucky ahead. But in the second-half Kentucky was by far the better team. And just go in there also calling for Jeremy Peru head soon. Maybe. The on of his go cats. Thank you. Thank you very much. I I listened. If you didn't hear, we listened to a little bit of Tony Basilio actually Tim can we pull up a? Well, he make us I was GonNa say, can we pull up Tony Basilio show and maybe play it? That's the main Tennessee postgame show and here the anger but his Internet only he might so we may not be able to do that. So who's next? Blake. How're you bike? Yeah definitely second you on the listening to Tony Basilica with very listening I'm here in Knoxville, I've lived here for about three or four years. And a lot of ways because you went to law school at Duke. Yes and I'm a Grad school here at ut. The PUKE, orange all time but see I, we Kentucky never beat Duke While I. was there. It's another thing to be at the school when your school beat them I that would be an awesome situation. That's true. That's true and and we play them every year unlike do like we have been the target that kind of thing. But you know it's in fact last year or so scarred by this game that last year I proposed to my now wife onto the game on the day that we played this game because I said I wanted to leave something good to come out of the day. And of course, ended up seeing much of that game but in the day was ultimately good. But you know we ended up losing the game in this year the game turned out much better but now. By, the way I want to propose to my fiancee today because I want something good to happen from this day. That's really interesting. You know the psyche though of the Tennessee game is why I was petrified about this game. Until we scored the final touchdown, even twenty seven to seven I was like, well, they'll just score three touchdowns. We'll lose twenty, eight, twenty, seven it was not until Rodriguez, ran that in to make it thirty, four, seven that Blake I really felt comfortable and it's only because that team is Tennessee. That's what. No Man I'm in the same boat I totally agree. But the point I wanNA make quickly as I, feel like you can draw a couple of parallels between this and the two thousand, eighteen season and twenty eighteen, and this year we lost to teams on the road the SEC west that we don't play a whole lot we lost to eight Kunar lost to Auburn this year, and then we also had a bad loss both years where we lost to ut and eighteen this. Year we lost to old miss but you know we're starting to get some wins here this win over Utah is going to be one of the best of the stoops era I think and if we can just kind of keep the momentum, make a little more progress on offense I, really believe in these guys and I think they can have a great season well, the schedule and I appreciate the call schedule still really hard I mean don't get me wrong to and to. It's still going to be hard to have a winning record because to have a winning record, you know we're still going to have to find a way to beat either. Florida Georgia. Or Alabama so doing better and five and five is going to be tough but it was likely impossible. If you didn't win today and now you get Missouri next game. Now that you've had that switch, you can be three and two going into Georgia and Georgia can be at home that game's going to be at noon on the SEC network. I bet they wish they moved that because now I think that is a game especially if Georgia wins tonight. If Georgia Beats Alabama tonight. That's going to be an upset alert game. I. Don't Think Kentucky is is favored I don't even think Kentucky. It's likely Kentucky wins. But if you're Georgia, you're GONNA have to be careful because if you could beat Missouri and go into that game three and two with all that confidence. You know we'll see. But the good thing about this makes up for the loss told this and now you're back to square one of maybe where you thought he'd be who's next. Dan What's up Dan? Hey Man, his Dan from you man. This gang almost could have been a perfect game. We hadn't dropped that one passing in so in that fumble, and then we want we had one penalty maybe two penalties. A touchdowns. The mistakes were the Josh Ali Fumble, which honestly the thing about that fumble is he he could run up the field and not been stopped. He might have scored. He just cut back into the defender and I'm not really sure why guess he saw that wrong the Keaton upshall drop I really thought was going to I. Thought that was going to haunt us I did because I felt like you were ready to just knock them out if you could have completed that but guess what it did not and they were able to overcome. This team potential this team is It's it's just guy I'm so excited about this win man after them the best way and I've been listening to Kentucky football since the sixties just just a great win for everybody I. Appreciate All you know for me I just think about the winds that made me the happiest I'm not saying that the biggest for the program but if you're just talking happiest wins, the happiest win I've had I think is a Kentucky Fan was beaten Florida a couple years ago I think second and third for me again just happiness was probably stevie got loose and Lamar fumbling. But this is right there. I mean Stevie got loses price second if I'm being honest but I think Lamar fumbling this Lsu was a bigger win as a program but. I just didn't feel it like these. So I mean this is a top five. Win Me just in terms of just a win. That makes me extremely joyous. Who's next cody what's up cody? And I got I got two things to say. And I'm not I'm not trying to bust your bubble, but I happy Swedish day. That you should send a Rachel and then happy Swedish Day that Eddy grant you send a Brad White because you know what I listened to complain thirty four to seven. Do if you're the kind of appreciate the call if you're the kind of human being that after you win thirty four to seven against the team, you have not beaten on the road since Nineteen eighty-four you call complain that is what's called misery like that's the kind of thing that makes me wonder how do you enjoy just general overall existence I don't say that to be rude but I'm just saying come on thirty four to seven. Don't be ridiculous WHO's next. Dalton. What's? Going on how you doing. All right I didn't catch all of that lasts callers, comments like getting on their with producer but. A lot of comments made about the Mississippi. State game is always their defense or even scholar points I mean even the same stuff started as off but I mean take are seventeen defensive points board. We still beat Tennessee and we still look good doing Listen here. The other thing I mean here's the other thing. Yes. Those I mean halftime, we were ahead and I'm not sure we necessarily outplay Tennessee. I, think we kinda didn't to be honest with you except for the to. The. To pick sixes. But against Auburn we thoroughly outplayed them and word losing at halftime. It happens so like I'm not gonNA feel bad about it. Yeah. No I'll. I'll look all of the stat lines, yards and everything backwards I one more thing I work. in Louisville live in Louisville at work in the heart of card country don't say what store I worked at, but I'm required to wear in orange safety vests went outside at my store and anytime we played Tennessee I wear my orange safety vests I risked my safety today for our win and every time I entered the building while listening to the game we got a big six. The I like this. So you wear an orange safety vast at your job, but the days we play Tennessee you risk your safety to not have orange on. At blue and. Live. Thank you. Just GonNa have to send me home. You're my fan of the day right there like that's all you need right there. If you if you will not wear orange on Game Day, even if your safety is an issue, then you are a true fan. Thank you very much sir. That was not yet cleaning call. From the guy complaining about eighty grand in a thirty, four to seven win at Tennessee by the way, it's the most points. Kentucky has beaten Tennessee by since eighteen ninety three. Eighteen ninety three. That's President Nineteen ninety-three Tim asked me. Can they hear you Tim I? When you talk to me and they can't hear you. It just makes me sound nuts. You're saying your guests and it's. GROVER CLEVELAND. The one part of American history that I don't know is like eighteen eighty to nineteen o five I feel like nothing really happened and I don't really follow it. I think there was something about Teapot Dome Scandal but otherwise I don't know I. Guess but I'll look. Yes, the Spanish, American look it up and tell me who the president was. So I'll make sure to get it right who's next Emily Harris Emily. Hi thinks secondary innovation. Game. And during the game out babysitting so Good I'm glad you were babysitting the secondary was awesome. Getting Jamie Davis linebacker. But to pick six is Kelvin Joe's if you gotta give him credit, he was terrible the first two games last week he went from. Intern slim to assistant to the regional manager Chubby, and now he's boss man fat because that interception gave us the spark we needed for the rest of the game. Yeah So I was wondering if I needed to babysit every single time I, when the game's going yes. Right now whatever it is appreciate the call whatever it is you did today keep doing it. You know if whatever it was because it's it's clearly working. I. Here's what happened with me. I was sitting on my couch here and we got up seventeen nothing I started to get nervous after after Keating upshall drop dropped pass, and as I get nervous I tend to pace. So I got and started pacing as soon as I pace Tennessee goes down and scores makes it seventeen seven I learned my lesson I got back on my seat didn't move anymore and Tennessee didn't score it. I needed to be reminded I was in the right place. There was no reason for me to get up and pace pacing 'cause Tennessee to score sit back down in my seat and it worked out. By the way if you were at ks bar watching the game, I always liked the videos of people cheering and big moments I'm sure somebody has one I haven't seen one yet send it to me if you have who is the president. Look at you. Timmy instead no. So much. It was grover Cleveland you've got to get where you talk back because I just said that's amazing. Nobody hears you. It made sounds like I'm talking to thoughts in my head I don't like it stop doing it. WHO's next Andy what's up? Matt I'll tell you and You know me and you grew up around the thank parts. About. Saying age. So we pretty much know about the hatred for Tennessee and I gotTa tell you that go big Blue Chan at the end of the game at the stadium I don't think I've ever heard anything. So beautiful in my life. Was Great I mean look if you you know I grew up in Middlesboro on the border all our TV stations or from Knoxville I'd sit there and watch how great Tennessee was my grandfather would take me to the Games. Kentucky in Tennessee in Knoxville we never won I never saw him win ever usually we got destroyed and when we didn't get destroyed, it was a heartbreaking loss at the end I. Like this is just a special one I mean beating. Tennessee especially, down there and doing it in this fashion for me and either aren't going to be too many wins that make me happier. I feel the same way I. Really didn't think I. Didn't. I didn't think this was possible. I thought we not winning close games low scoring but I've I've I've been proceeded and one more point I think now, I can appreciate those early gains that we play in non conference up Eastern Michigan and southern Miss Because obviously we need those gained. The get go on. These gave up seventy one point in the first game and we only gave up. And these last two and. A half fun today and joy. It's been a great day and. If he's going to cost me some money though because I made A. Promise, on the on the regular radio show that I'm GONNA have to fill. This evening. So but it's worth it because we want and that's what's most important. Let's do one more for the break. WHO's next sat how're you? Sad? How you you doing bud doing good. Just. For the record what time you're going to be there. So I know big not telling you what time would be there I'm a beer at some point and Shannon's going to be there and then that's it because here's the problem normally. We just make it a house party there, but we can't do then go. So, we can't do that. So we have to like everybody's got to be in the seat. So it's going to be you know I can't tell you but go ahead. All right. So I just have to say with the tear in my eye. This is the greatest day of my life as a catch fan and I've got my six year old daughter year. Khloe what do you want to say Khloe? Bros.. GonNa. Thank you. Thank you. Know this is a huge one now look. It doesn't do a lot of good if you don't win next week it. Missouri. But no matter what happens this is important in my mind. No matter what happens for the rest of this season. Terry Wilson deserves our praise going forward. He just does even if we one day at the end of the year, they make a quarterback change and I don't expect that to happen. But if they do this dude, ended the Florida streak this dude into the streak at. Tennessee. That's it. That's what more do you want from a quarterback because those things have hung over our head since Reagan was President And now they're both gone. And Terry Wilson was manning the ship in both of them. We'll take a break. Eight five, nine, two, eight, hundred, twenty, two, eighty, seven. This is the local Toyota dealers SR post game show. Looking back. It is local Toyota dealers case our post game show some some young guys may big place today by the way. Vito Tis Dale had a couple of huge hits. I. Think kids are GonNa be really really good. And the running bag Tom McLean Kinda like him to. I mean they they had him in during that key drive to kind of put the game away and he got some big runs. I like Aj Rose I. Think he's good back Chris Rodriquez should be the number one running back. I mean just should he's the best guy we got and he was he was awesome today the thing about him he's got that Benny snail quality that he gets hit and he gets to more yards. That is a massive advantage. Especially when you need, you know they had a couple third one third and two that he got the first down the goal line run. He's got that any snail quality and and the other guys don't now those guys eighty rose a good catcher good receiving out of the backfield smokes fast. But in terms of the guy that can just take hit and keep going that Benny snail quality. That's Chris. Rodriguez and I think he should be. The top back, it looks like Louisville by the way is only down twelve seven notre. But the quarterback looks to just gotten hurt. So hope he's not hurt because. They got a shot to pull it upset here. There's next. Daniel what's up Daniel? Hey how's it going doing? Good. I'm actually a fulltime employees and alumni of University of the Cumberland's down here. So it was really cool. Having the team here yesterday. Did you. Did you get to see it for people who don't know they stopped at in Williamsburg University of Cumberland's and a practice halfway there. They said that they thought it would keep them fresher rather than just doing a three hour bus ride. You did you get to see them there Yeah I kinda got. They wouldn't win really let like they obviously didn't let anybody inside and they kinda didn't really let anybody close to the fence, but I kinda pulled out my car. and. Just kinda there and watch it was really really cool to watch. referencing what drew said on twitter the we're now undefeated an you and when we Practice at University of the Cumberland. So my proposal is that like I know probably swines Missouri next week, but we've got a really little airport here in In here, you get them practicing again I think you know I think what's really it's not really on the way to Columbia Missouri. Close, close the the one thing I did want to say though is, is this the first game ever where we be a team in football by more than what John Short said we were GONNA win. In the week or they'll win by ten. So it's happened. It doesn't happen a lot. I appreciate the call. Kentucky, does not cover the John Short spread very often, and by the way I'm really happy for John Short he he buried his mother this morning and to be able to get this victory. I know that that has got to make him happy as well. Those next. Jr Jr.. Man. If I was any better, I need to a me Matt. We'll good. Man, my wife is a huge Tennessee. Fan In today is one of the best days of my life may wild. Today. The Best Day of my life. Hey. Allied, I've listen. If. It's one of the best days of your life that I hope you enjoy it. It's I. Think it's to me. It's the best day twenty twenty. What's a better day? I mean Today is the best of twenty twenty I honestly all of twenty, twenty today. It's worth it because Tennessee I've already talked of already talk smack my my father-in-law. I cannot wait to go down to Corbin where they're from on Thanksgiving and I pray that he lets me say grace because I'm going to thank heavens for Tennessee for giving us four turnovers to essentially feel the game. Well, so you are. You're going to actually thank the Lord for Tennessee losing. Absolutely well, well, listen I hear make a a fair enough I appreciate the call. You know we all we we thank God for all of his gifts and they gave us to to start the half. By the way that that kill Joseph Play was awesome and then James Davis ran eighty five yards on his and I didn't see it. But West Rucker who's Tennessee beat reporter says that a number of Tennessee players didn't even chase after him and that the film the film will make that look worse. We couldn't really see that. On TV because the cameras following the guy running but be interesting to see he said there were only two players that chased after a Jamie Davis did feel like I mean not that fast he shouldn't been able to go eighty five yards and be untouched, but he was who's next. Chase are you? Good Matinee doing good. Up that last caller I'm I'm just asking corporate right now come back from the game. Well, so was it like okay I'm glad you were there. What was it like being there? Tell me I mean what's bought. My Take Guy looked like Alice Cooper I didn't know is gonNA work. I get into the game and. It's spread out, but they out was up in the nosebleed. Just as soon as. The First pick six. Ticket, picnics, and they were all. Around me, they're all white they were just booing. Run or whatever his name is, it was the best I just allergies laughing the whole time it was. I. One of the best day there. Well first all there's nothing better than winning than being in a game that Kentucky wins on the road especially in Knoxville. Especially, when they thought they were GonNa Win I'm sure it was It was great and they were all volunteers are some of the best liquid nourishment you can have. So I hope you got some of them. I, appreciate car I know where he is. So you get right through their when you come in through Williamsburg to Corbin there on seventy five, north round exit twenty, nine, the cell phones drop a lot so. Betty probably got a dead service that happens. I can't blame me WHO's next. Scott. WHAT'S UP Scott? A man what's going on buddy I just happy hope you are as well. I'm ecstatic I'm GonNa tell you what first of all. Thank you for. Getting coach stoops on. Anytime I, hear him after a win that just gets me emotional especially at their big win like today. And that was awesome. Hearing him talk because he so emotional the way he talks it. Well the thing I like about him. Obviously I liked that we win with him but one of things I like about him is that he he allows himself he sort of his emotions he wears on his sleeve and I, really like that about him I like that he sort of lets the fans realize that he is his into all this as we are and I think that's one of the reasons the fans really have embraced him. and. I love my coach because of that you know. Couple of things. Stuck out. One was Was Terry was was boss man. You gotta give it up to that kid I he we've given them so much grief for like. Two weeks, and then he comes back in and makes a great play like that and then Terry I I thought he did a great job and run he had like Right before we got our thirty or fourth point. Did certain things, man that I. You know you you overlook. If if you're you're trying to make excuses of why he shouldn't have been lineup. Man, that kids good man I I really do. He's done so much for our program in the past three years. He just he sticks out to me man he does what's interesting to me. I genuinely believe this. If we hadn't gotten that pick six. I think there's a chance the next offensive play they might have played gatewood. I genuinely believe that. I think that pick six changed the game also for Terry, because I think they were like the ball we were not moving the ball I think there was some worry about whether the spark was going to be there and we got that pick six and then got another one before. Terry had to play again and I think at that point it was Terry's game. But I it's weird. We might look back and go that that Kelvin Joseph and Jane. Davis pick six really solidified Terry spot because there were people I can tell you the coaches were considering that not like replacing, but maybe using gatewood for a series or two so. Maybe kill the jobs of Bosman fat save. Terri from having to worry about that. Is Crazy, you know I I've been a fan, my whole life and. I guess I was twelve years old. The last time we went in there and one that, and this is like Management Monumental win like this. Just don't happen every day you know. For US Kentucky fans like blowhards. Stuff like this just doesn't happen and. Man It was like when we put in the wide receivers quarterback, we won the first time and so many years and then today man they make you feel good man so much more special I appreciate the call I totally agree something about beating. You know listen you also don't get the streak enders. On, the radio weeks ago I'm not sure that we'll ever have a game. I mean we might if we're playing in the SEC championship or something, but it will have very regular season games matter more than that forty game did a couple of years ago. This probably in quite on that level. But now we don't ever have to think like one, thousand, nine, hundred, four from now we don't have to think about it in the context of. Being the last time we beat, we beat Tennessee every Kentucky in new debt every Kentucky fan new. The last time that happened was nineteen eighty-four. Now, we don't have to think about that anymore and that's a big deal. Let's do one more. We'll take another break who's next but how you Butler I really. Good. Yeah, I liked employed. We let going. On living donor macri can you know read on Tennessee Line but man that's better than beating the crap out of them not just to win but the significantly win and that's that'd be nobody feels that more than Harlan. Bell Whitley McCreary like right down through there. 'cause you got the same thing we do. Exactly we don't clamp everyone but uh Three real quick medicines, SEC network ones giving US mad carts. How long has it been if ever that they give Kentucky, football program props like they were mainly on eighty grand and John Farm guest. Announcers Cole Cubelic Chris Doreen. Obviously Tom Heart but also gene Chizik all of them are really big mark stoops spans like they all really believe in him so it doesn't surprise me. They were praising him after the game. At this point if somebody don't they need their temperature and check because what he's done with Kentucky football is I'm President I mean they even As I think it's going to take a lot going on other places and he's doing that he is. Playing I mean he's he's just nailing it, and if you ain't seen him you in Kentucky in my opinion but I, Miss I posing game, of course, I was. In. Kick Kickoff kill me but on all right I'M GonNa. Break out in with go cats and my thoughts and prayers done so. Appreciate Takhar Sir thank you very much. macree can call Mississippi State is. Again, beat again, this time losing to Texas A and M fourteen and nothing. You know you gotta get Mike Time to get his players in but I don't know man. It's certainly that Lsu game is looking at me like an aberration compared to what's happening happen we'll take a break, eight, five, nine, two, eight, hundred, twenty, two, Eighty, seven, and we'll be right back. It's a local Toyota dealers. postgame show. quarterback final segment is low dealers. Our Post game show. There's a big sports tonight by the way right now, the dodgers lead the braves three nothing in game six of the Braves they win today go to the world series, braves bases, loaded one out. So Shannon is actually on his way to Lexington to watch that game their kaessbohrer. I think he's going to be there in a few minutes. then. You've got Alabama Georgia tonight obviously, you have game seven of the LCS Astros and raise you have a UFC fight someone named Brian Ortega who people say is good and then one of the biggest non heavyweight boxing matches in forever low Marchinko versus Lopez for the lightweight unification title. So. Low. Going on tonight but none of it matters as much as Kentucky beaten Tennessee because that should lead I. Sound like John Short that should lead sportscenter 'cause it's been so long since we've one down there who's next Alex. How are you Alex? I wasn't in existence the last time Kentucky. One in Knoxville I wasn't I I. Think I may have been in my mom's belly, but I wasn't actually physically on this planet though in taken with the case are professional wrestling Bob here I want to compare it. We were jobbers under Joker Phillips we were the people that opened up the show. Getting be so like Brooklyn. Brooklyn brawler. Older buried. Horowitz. On the back Horowitz and Ben. And then we? We beat Florida and that puts us up to walk maybe getting a shot at the TV bottle and then we be. Killed Louisville and that couple headline like hell in the cell. Then we be Penn State and we BE VIRGINIA TECH now we're into line for the intercontinental title and now they came to see on the road we're certainly possible getting Ben Wrestlemainia we're looking at maybe headline in the class champion. But I do think we're wrestling the hockey talk man for the intercontinental title at Summer Slam I will give you that. The not eighty nine alternate warrior squash. Mash. One of my favorites in his. Own. I what I feel like Alabama's GonNa. Do Nobody's going to be able to show up? The East spots. Jimmy I'd appreciate the call he'll do. He'll cut his own wrestling promos by letting go to law but I do like I do like the wrestling compares we're not in Wrestlemainia yet. We're still right now trying to get the intercontinental title, but he beat this. If we beat Georgia Florida or Alabama if you could steal one of those and go six and four adding that would be an unbelievably impressive achievement considering how hard to schedule is this year Whoa? Cunningham just got his rise running back blown up by Notre Dame, he should apologize to him for that WHO's next. Ethan what's up? Ethan. Matt Average Age taking my call just a few things. Like Jeremy Crew finally traded that Bonnet in for the black mask Masks in a matching blackout the cats gave him today. Did you hear him after the game talk about his Bonnet He said that. He wore the Bonnet and he pulled it down wants to talk and he forgot to put it back up the whole game. They might believe that if I believe he forgot to put. Up It. Absolutely, not last week. He looks like an old grandma sued on that airplane waiting to go to spooky hours. But WANNA say that that Boston and fat finally evolved from Ryan Got Husky and He's man that was a huge play in the game that changed everything before that play we were hanging like Tennessee to chances before that play the score once they got sacked and it took them out of field goal range the other they got stopped on a fourth on third down and they decided to punt. We. Had didn't have a lot positive going on until that moment. So I give him a lot of credit. Right and also I just now finally got through but did you have that feeling that Tennessee was going to score three straight touchdown? Losing Typical Kentucky Fashion Twenty eight twenty seven I'll go further than that I appreciate the call, I I'll go through the stages. Okay. Fourteen to nothing felt, hey, things are good. This game's going to be competitive. That was my thought. When Keaton upshaw drop the pass to make it seventeen nothing I thought that's going to hurt us. It's GonNa hurt is then when they came down and scored after that I was convinced we were going to go three and out and they were gonNA score again at the end of the first half but they didn't. All during halftime was texting with everyone i. know that's a big football fan and I said be honest with me. Do you go in this game and no one thought we were no one. Now you all listening. May You may have thought they were I. did not think they were and no one could find thought we were. Then when we stopped them three and out and we school we came down and scored. That was the first time I. let myself think. You know what we could win this. That was the first time was at that point. But I didn't feel good about it until Rodriguez put it in the end zone. Make thirty, one seven. Excuse me thirty, four, seven. Now. I'll even say this when they brought in the the freshman and he got that one completion with the great catch with the receiver I thought I don't think they're gonNA come back but let's not get too hasty. That's how much this whole thing with Tennessee makes me nervous but it won't anymore I don't think I think we ended that tonight who's next. Soup it. How're you? Matt, how're you doing an I not even pretty good 'cause I've been listening to the whole lot post game show I just WanNa say that you know forget about the decent forget about the running gang for about the great. Play, calling. But Eddie Cran and mark stoops the reason we want this game I'm wearing the white top with the white shorts and I'm proud of so. Proud of yourself. So you did white up white shorts for wear the same uniform. It's a yes it's embarrassing but there's no pictures over yet. They say jobs, what a great land I Kentucky, my Gosh. If this is something that the entire bigly nation can get behind I mean I heard one negative call to go jump in the lake man I'm sorry go to the go to the Morgan County Sorghum Festival don't bother showing up. It's GONNA be Kinda court days. This was a great win our defense dominated the second half the changes we made from the first half the second half was fantastic and I love running it down to Nazis throat that was awesome I called my cousin. Right he's a huge fan right after the game his brother was there who actually went over to his house in his Tennessee gear to watch the game because he was so confident they ever. GonNa win that was a great conference call I wished had the audio but my gosh man what what a great win for big little nations love this team i. Reminded me of back in I remember actually going back to those days back in nineteen eighty four we won I think that was thirty three wasn't rakes at the time scored like one of those two touchdowns low scoring game. It was a knock down drag out game at my grandparents there we had the red and black shag carpet I was changing the. Got You. Appreciate, the call my favorite part of that 'cause he said, he channelled my granny green when he said go jump in the lake. That's a good granny phrase right there. Go jump in the lake. We did in the second half, run it down their throat, all three touched the two touchdown drives, and then the drive that ended in the field go all three of those drives in the second half we ran right down their throat I mean they it was weird. We were not able to run the ball in the first half, but isn't that second half they could not stop us and you know somebody who knows more about football. Me could explain what the difference was they are, but clearly whatever adjustments were made worked. In that second half WHO's next Zach? WHAT'S UP ZAC? Matt Jones I'm doing well so. I'm just trying to picture the way the Tom least described it. As fans relieving. The whole stadium there in the fourth quarter, they were just so pissed they couldn't even stand to be at the game anymore. So I'm. I'm not I mean look what an embarrassing loss for timing. We've talked about this from our perspective. Let's look at it from. There's what an embarrassing loss. I mean. You thought you were back especially they went into the Georgia game legitimately believing they could win they were ahead at time against Georgia they were ahead and since then They. In, the second half they got beat twenty seven to nothing by Georgia and then today thirty four to seven. So since they went into the half against Georgia, they have lost sixty one to seven in the last three half. So if you're Tennessee, this is a brutal, all systems failure. Say. This is well real quick Max Duffy. He's still a secret weapon because they the way you described it today whether they were scared so bad at the last little bit. They had all their guys up front nobody was in the back ground just trying to catch the ball and I mean, it's just He's a secret weapon man. He's GonNa. Do great things for us. He's GonNa go. He's. Got Something. He's been amazing. I appreciate you know what's funny about him is he's only in junior and with the NCAA's rule, he could play two more years. Now, he won't. I don't think I. Mean I assume I kind of thought. He'd go pro this year. Twenty years old. I think. You'll probably see if the NFL's interested in any of the NFL doesn't like those Australian style kickers really. But if they don't want him, he seems to be having the time of his life. He can do two more years be the first player probably history to win the punter of the Year award like four times I don't think he'll do it but he could if he wanted to WHO's next. Sarah, how are you? Sarah I'm good. How are you? Good. Good I live in Murfreesboro Tennessee. This wind just adds to it and makes it that much sweeter because I've to deal with a lot of Tennessee. So. Murphy's borough Murfreesboro big orange country, everybody's orange and they all they all gotTa Chalayan and all talk to you about how great the Vol's are. So you're right. That's a bet if you live there, this is extra sweet. Yeah. There's extra and I was like you I to see fans telling me that I congratulations. You want I said I will not believe it until the timer goes off. So you were not the only one that not believe into over. Yeah I mean I believed it when Chris Rodriguez scored but I didn't ex- hail until the fourth down where he overthrew the guy. 'cause I was like I. Think we got it now. So I mean you know I was ridiculous like. My girlfriend always says, she can't be around me during football game. She definitely can't be around me. We're playing Tennessee so but we got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate Louisville Notre. Dame. Got a chance in this game. I mean Notre Dame's up twelve to seven. And it looks like there are six minutes left Notre Dame's trying to run out the clock. They'll have a big third down coming up right here to see if they can Keep it going who's next cody what's up cody? Thanks for taking my call, I'm not volunteer regency biased but if you look at the Auburn game with our defense, so there's a lot of short field just a crazy athlete. And Sat William. Then you look at what I'll miss went to everybody, but these last few games, our defense. Has Played Amazing. Do you think maybe those first two games were an outlier in that we be. Here. Or the two quarterbacks where if I just not that great and I'm making the first part caught cody I mean. Let's go in the Auburn game. Their two of their touchdowns were short fields and both of the actual touchdown throws where Seth Williams who is a first round pick? Ole Miss Move The ball pretty much easier against us but we allow thirty five they score forty, eight against Alabama. So maybe they're just really good offensively and if those things are true. You know maybe this defense is really good I mean I you know I said today would be the day we found out. Well, if that's true, they're good. Yeah, and you can tell this is the mark stoops football game with as much as we run the ball because I don't see him ever being in a position to let the quarterback do anything but maintained the game. He's not gonNA put us in a situation and even a situation to where quarterback rolling as much and doing what jared for Tennessee did today. I don't think we're ever going to have that possibility. He's not even going to put that on the table. He's play defense get your stops in score enough to win that way I'm with you and I appreciate the call you know as I sit on the pre-game show that was on a radio show in Nashville and they asked me who would you rather have? A guarantee. No or Terry Wilson as your quarterback and what I said was I'd probably rather have. Terry Wilson. Garrett the highs with Garin Tano are higher, but the lows are lower with terry sort of consistent Terry. And I think what mark stoops has shown is if the rest of the team is solid, that's how you win. If you have deficiencies elsewhere and you need your quarterback to do something big. You know that can be harder but today and the Mississippi State game in the Auburn Game I think everything else was clicking And Teri does what you need even the game. The Mississippi State game, he did not play well. But we want twenty four to two. So when he did exactly what they needed him to do. So you know. I think in many. FARC stoops probably wouldn't admit this. But in many ways, terry is like the perfect quarterback for just the way he is he's got sort of a conservative mentality. And Terry. Doesn't screw up a lot and I think that's what he likes. Let's do two or three more and we'll call it who's next. Mark what's up? Hey Matt I'll go one step further than you were around the same age. So we've experienced a lot of UK football trauma but when that reserve offense Lineman for you kate went down with twenty six seconds left and they had to go to a timeout the thought that went through my head, and this is legitimate I'm not making it up for an attempt at comedy is over here I go I'm going to have the massive coronary here the timeout in history will not record me being able to witness a UK win. Over Penicillin? That's how that's that's. That's that's really negative I. don't even I don't get that negative. So yeah. Yeah. Well, the good thing is I think this is kind of exercise all the ridiculous streaks in the demons I mean I think there are some strings out there having one obviously at Bamako on time but who has and you know and we don't play them things we don't. We don't play them that much you know like like Tennessee Georgia I guess we haven't beaten him in ten games but I, don't consider that crazy to be honest with you just because you know Donna those years. But. The Tennessee thing has been part of what's made it painful. Fifteen years a lot of those games they haven't been that bad much better than us. They beat US every year. Yeah, that's that's what that's. What made it so tough and I was thinking about about this, and I think really that you know the the advent of the SEC network has really done a couple of things one it's it's maybe forced or encouraged. You Kate invest a lot of money and its football program I think mark stoops is the fifteenth is paid coach in the country and you see that with some of the traditionally poor performing SEC basketball teams that have sort of stepped up their game and then sort of like the nineteen eighties with the big east and espn. Those programs is one really all that good in the sixties and seventies and all of a sudden you know they get the exposure and they emerge. So you know maybe some maybe some good things converge when we hired a good coach and we had that. I think it's a lot of things happen I appreciate the call I mean I think the SEC network was a big part of it because all the sudden it gave resources, I mean the SEC network has made it as the big ten network did to her those conferences just have a lot more money than everybody else. But the other thing was one of these days we'll talk more about this in a longer form but mark stoops when he got here was able to convince a handful donors one of which people know is still craft but there were others who were basketball donors to go all in on football. And we need did it allowed him to get the investment? They needed to Redo the practice facility, which already kinda starting but also reduce the stadium and all that stuff. They did it these donors because they believed in mark stoops able to convince them in a way that honestly the coaches before just had not been able to do. And To then back it up with the play on the field. It's just been a really impressive thing I. mean he they not only built this program on the field they built it behind the scenes exactly how you would draw up to do. And I tell you. I, didn't think it could be done but they've done it and they deserve all the credit in the world for it as well. We'll take our final call right here. WHO's this? Clayton finished strong. More. I called you on the post game. Mississippi state game loose this week and I disagreed with. Talking about the defense and how we A couple of games warm up well, I think what was so they is hopefully going to be the consistency on the defensive side that we've. in the in the in the last couple of years and I'm selling thirty fourth birthday. I've seen a couple of good victories on my birthday and this one just I'm just on cloud now. I just want to say no cats and. Really. Appreciate guys man you guys helped me get through the week right now and I lost my job a couple of months ago. But this is just really nice to have this outlet into Here's points just before and after games during the week and I really appreciate. Well, that's very kind of you Clayton. Thank you very much. Indepth things will park up for you. I'm sure. Thank you very much. Thank you folks very much. For for for listening everybody enjoy yourselves celebrate. You don't get a lot of games. You'll get a lot of days like this as a fan where it's just pure joy. You don't worry about anything else. You say look that was a victory. We've waited a long long time to do. So the VOL's get beat down Kentucky not only wins. They smack Tennessee down in a massive victory Knoxville thirty four to seven. The next time you'll hear from me Monday morning I look forward to talking to you. Thank you very much for listening. This has been the local Toyota dealers ks our post game show celebrate accordingly. You've been listening to your local Toyota Dealers ks our post game show with Matteo's catch. Kentucky Sports. Radio Weekdays and go cats. This segment of your local.

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Week 7 Preview: Our Highest Stakes Ever?

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You're listening to unnecessary roughness where the roughness is quite unnecessary but somehow we do it every single week it is brought to you by. Heart Seltzer, which is right in front of us the Black Cherry the Black Cherry. Black. Cherry. We got the pineapple I had the peach earlier. It is delicious secret police. I've been hoarding the Peach under my desk is that what you've been doing? Well, because in the office you're not supposed you can't take them home. There's so many high noon's here. Why are you hiding anything because there's not a lot of peach. I've been holding underneath my great but paying the best but I mean people know that it's the best all are delicious but I've been I've a secret stash. Now it's not secret because I'm saying it but no one listening can get into the office anyways Okay. Here's some Rando showing up what has been to random shut up is really. Tick. Tock girl they were female. So no one really cared. But yeah and they were both attractive. Yes and actually there was a girl came in demanding to see David Erica and I got a camera come talk to her and she just clammed up immediately. So she wasn't she wasn't about that life and then today was a girl I walked in on the very end when Kevin simply you have to leave. Oh, she's saying she said that she had messages. The proof that she was invited in, but her phone died quote unquote and then spider was charging for her. So she could show those said messages Kevin kicked her out, and then the girl got mad at us for not letting her charger. Phonier I'm going to be honest with the drama that's going on with Dave and talk I would say that female tick talkers are probably the most dangerous to let into the building right now because they're also mad at him. But that's beside the point at high noon is doing this weekend. They are sponsoring the trip, the trip which has become much more heated than the last time we recorded we'll get into that in a minute. Okay. I will tell you the we now have ramifications. We now have sanctions. We now have stakes high very high stakes. Yup. Somebody is coming home a little slower. Well, she talk about it now. This is the women say the words college football yet barstools 'cause football podcast. Big. Weekend. For us, I am WanNa know against Casey this year. I was state beating Oklahoma but today this in Tech Stadium goes against Mr say we'll try to spare you. We won't talk about that game too much we will be there would be doing a lot of content. This weekend will be going to my I'll be going home you are going. excited. Yes. They are very excited I. Did I did a podcast in starkly yesterday you did. I. Did it was Nice. We're they don't ask me. Well, because they say you swear too much I do. They. All the other I used to beat the shit out of all the other Mississippi State podcast with Mississippi State podcast and they would all say, oh, he cusses I don't listen to him but you know what I'm spraying Walker man who I am. So if you're listening to this podcast, you do know that the Barstool flavor is on full force we don't edit ourselves. We don't since ourselves. What I did find interesting is that you didn't tell me that I shouldn't swear on other podcasts which I'm classy lady when I need I should I tell you what am I supposed to man's plan to you how to act another podcast you're supposed to say to me by the way this is a family friendly podcast so that I don't go on. Like an asshole when you go place. But I do have the rule that unless it's a Barstool podcast, just censor myself anyways because normally don't speak the way that we do when I go. So I've done stuff for tea bob down in Louisiana some stuff I saving. I always ask I'm like I'm GonNa cuss is that all right and? They just say, yes or no mostly say, yes I usually I usually try to to ask questions but normally the person that is interviewing me doesn't come straight it'd be like, Hey, by this family friendly and that's what happened with the Mississippi State podcast which led me to believe that you purposely wanted me to make an ask myself. Oh, you're foulmouthed. Only, because I live in New, York and I worked, for Barstool. So week seven is upon us. We've had several you know there's been covert issues. Today it's one of those Realities of college football in two thousand, twenty we at the appears we've lost the Lsu Florida game for this weekend, it'll be made up December twelfth. I WANNA I WanNa talk about the Dan Mullen part of that in a minute. We're GONNA. Lay Out our steaks and we're talking about Dan Mullen Florida and why the media is you're salivating to blame him on something he doesn't need to be blamed about. we'll go through the through the slate through the schedule, and then we'll talk some heisman stuff that we asked. You guys the rough next to talk about and just a second. Now, you can transfer in one time one time only for free in college. We'll talk about that but I M Mississippi state this weekend last last year was the infamous Milkman suit. It's the yell leaders suit. The MILKMAN SUIT I won't. Use It's it's yell leader and what does it look like? Well, the one you had on looked like gigantic. Milkman. Yes. It looked exactly like an cheerleaders yell leaders fall get right what what kind of yells daily all of them. Do they lead. No positive or the cheerleaders to defense y'all leaders do a thing. One, hundred, thousand people say it all at once. It's yell on Cheer. So cheerleaders go defense and yell leaders say Defense No. have. You ever heard anybody at an go defense never seen them played. BEAT THE HELL OUT OF MISSISSIPPI STATE A. Leader for that. y'All leadership. There's a yell practice yell leaders nerve just embarrassed about what your school chooses to be. No. But you know what I am embarrassed about their aggies that were saying that they would rather you because you believed in am and they've clearly never listened to you just mock everything that am stands for I'm sorry when when when push came to on this podcast I understand that and that's Fine and I have admitted you had anim- The football teams back. You also just make fun of an MD school all the time make fun of everybody fans know that I'm I'm the real deal I'm the genuine article I'm not GonNa Piss on somebody's leg and tell them it's raining I mean you talk about the nut grabbing thing which is not even a thing all the time. To Yeah you say that they grab each other's nuts not shrill doing have you to we have youtube I, don't. I remember it's funny. It's funny Jack. It's funny. I'll get to you in a second. It's funny. The last episode when we went over the grabbing of the nuts and were actually in Starkville. As the last time you were there really yeah. You remember you went and you were in the hotel you watched the youtube all that's in the in the hotel. Yeah that covert yes, we were in. June issue. Well. It's just not a thing to me June. Didn't even happen this year well. This year's marched. July didn't happen I. Agree with that. I'll accept that thank God I can raise the stakes life decisions zero stakes Reagan say last year I wore the Milkman suit and that pushed Evan the and this year we are flying to start on Friday The loser on Sunday morning will not be flying back. They will instead be getting in a car and driving these sixteen hours nine minutes from Starkville to New York City and every hour on the hour we be stopping to sing or chant or cheer the Fight Song of the winner. Yeah that was a Dan Cats Dave portnoy special. On the college football show. I don't hate it. I think that it makes it a little bit more interesting. because. The bet that we said that we were gonNA make was poor. It was subpar just came up with it so they would make a bat and they end up making event. Yes Just, like last year I knew Mr say wasn't GonNa win and I had to do it and I had to wear the what Milkman I'm. Okay. If I have to drive back and also don't Berry Berry the lead, it's not a straight up. Now. As you were straight up now the line right now is six and a half an. Hour at seven, and if it pushes, we all get to fly back. and. And that's only because your daughter's going your daughter wasn't going. We were all driving. So Katie. I think you've been drafted to team brandon well, well, there's a little bit of 'cause I initially. Heard K. has with me. I'll tell you why did you lie? Katie don't know. No no no no I'm representing Katie in this matter. Okay. Why are you T- Mississippi Sake? She is not. She is team Katie and you know it wasn't team Caney you. Because you said, if you have to drive back, you won't the cameraman Rudy because you have to drive seventeen hours across the country you feel safer with in the car instead of six to Ben s mother fucking roar over here, Katie no I'm not discrediting. The fact that Katie can handle herself. I was more just saying, and this is this is where my lack of feminism is going to come out. I just personally feel safer driving across the country with a male, then another female. That's just a fact I trust that you can yourself in any situation I do too and also when I initially was happening I seem to be more of a personal preference, which is what the half be known but in no, no. Then no makes I can't fight for shit. I I'm not. Saying that you can handle things. Well, yeah to. Talk with me, but if I got into a fight now. Listen. If he was personal preference, I would be on a plane with Katie an rudy. Not. You maybe but I mean that's just a fact. No, no. No hold on. If there was ever a narrative that I would rather rudy be in the car as a human being over you. This is not a fact. From. A safety standpoint I thought having a male. WAS SAFER I don't blame her for that one. Thank you Katie. You. Are Unbelievable I mean it's the truth you walked in here at her okay now. I'm taller than Rudy. She's taller than. I'm like half ahead. All right. So the loser will be driving back. And singing the other person's fight song every hour on the hour. But also caveat we don't have to drive back right away. All right. Stay awake. Well, he said, they said you could because you had to be backed by Monday and day was like all waves that. Area. So it interesting but the original bet was was week I mean, come on regional. throve trap and the other uniforms are shirts sleep both from the field. They're strapping I mean we're GonNa do it anyway so it's true. I mean you put up first trap today to crop top I did wasn't really I rapped it's just how I like to live my life your crop top guy now. Should be. All right. Well, regardless, you've got some high stakes. Very content. So let's go over the news of college football this week. Baylor yes. No I'm saying I wasn't. It was a not great symbol. I'M GONNA go back to not talking now. Can you say? Beating those airports on the table, it's bothering me. Sorry. That's my fault. I'll have plenty of time to listen these air pods when I'm on the plane on the way back. Good good. You like driving those. So it's really not as bad in every. I don't remember the last time I drove a car and he gets any stay in Starkville for a little bit. It's not the end of the world if they don't cover but if they do cover then he'll then it can be Mr Cocky walk. I'll be a complete. Thought, we weren't to actually do it. Yeah. That's weird. Did you know this Jack with she was like that it's not actually going to happen and happen well, what driving back the bet she even thinking about I was gonna live up to it. I was relate hot. I had him from David then we're, not gonNA. Do. But like I talked to said, well, people was like, well, what do you think this? I'm telling you percent. said. Zero. Zero chance no way I'm not ready. People have to live all snitch. Okay. I bet she'd snitch for big Cat Day. Out I want you go back to the people and tell them to kiss my fucking ass. Tell him that tell them. I. Said it wait. Did they say it for him or for me either both I wore the Milkman? Kostas. Oh. Man Anybody knows that if you agree to a at Barstool sports especially a bet that is made in the vicinity of Dan cats and Dave. Portnoy and you don't follow through you might as well quit. You might as well pack your shit up and quit you have to follow through now I will say the only thing I I did ask Dan very nicely. Please do not make me shave my head. So Oh. Yeah. I didn't know that was the thing that's except about was something at one point the shaving of the head all it wasn't no. Remember it was during when we denote college was going to happen and we said what Casey Shave. Her head if guaranteed college football season and you said you would shave my head against my will you would. You said you get in your car right now and go to apartment in New York City and Schaefer Cut. And you'd probably do it again. Don't sound like something I would say yes. So I just wanted to make sure that wasn't on the record. Brennan were going on our big trip. This weekend we sure are, and we're going to be walking around Starkville Mississippi a whole lot looking good and you know what? I'M GONNA wear my feet. Some boots, some rocky boots you'll be stepping out and your book many stepping out in my boots because they keep my feet comfortable. You know that whenever you're standing out of football game I assume we'RE GONNA be saying for a long time your feet Kinda gets sweaty and hot no matter what temperature outside or not in my rocky boots so they keep your. Feet cool. It's GonNa be pleasant outside and they keep them comfortable whether you're working a tough job or hanging out in the backyard or just going out and sarcoma. Mississippi. I'm going to be wearing my rocky boots and if you're not wearing Iraqi boots by now I don't know what you're doing because they are the most comfortable thing and this is big brandon. The. Promo Code is Aki and the aggies are going to beat the bulldogs. This weekend we know that go to rocky boots, dot com and enter the Promo Code aggie. That's AG G. I. E. AT checkout for twenty, five percent off your next pair of boots. Again, that's rocky boots dot com enter the Promo Code Aggie, and you can be matching with Brenna Walker and I when we're going to be stop around Mississippi in Iraqi boots All right. Let's talk about the news. So Baylor outbreak twenty, twenty, eight players, fourteen staffers. Baylor's got the Cova. Florida's got covert. Did you see I know Katie put in our techs group. Did you see the latest from from Florida I didn't up to now? Well. Apparently, Florida players had symptoms on Friday and shows not to report them. Allergies Scott. Stricklin, said Florida players who tested positive said after the fact that they had runny noses and headaches on Friday but they didn't report the sentence because they thought they were allergies. You can't blame those I mean. I know but it's not A. Good luck. I is it a good luck no Can you expect? I mean you have to have mandatory testing your mentors asked him on. Friday. You. You can't can you especially like if I am a player. And I. Say I, had the sniffles and I think he's got allergies but can test for covid. That guy is risking losing his spot, which is sad it is but. I don't know I. Don't think you put the onus on the players. A college player has a chance to make a bad decision about that whereas they just have mandatory testing on Friday also a lot of these covert symptoms unfortunately are a lot of allergies. There's people who cough in the office and I thought his own the. Yes so It's unfortunate and like Brennan said I think he just would been solved. There's mandatory testing on Friday before games, and if you don't, if you test positive, you can't play. All right now, here's here's the part about Dan Mullen. So Damn and last week after a game he was salted who lost he was sore. He was being a sore loser fine happens I do it and he was like. A and had a big crowd and he was like well, I want to focus in Florida. He said it. He wants a full crowded Florida said Ninety Thousand Gorda Florida had Florida had said. The Governor Florida said we're GONNA open up to full stadium. So Damon won't that they get back. Florida has covert issues and every blue checkmark in the world comes out and and and we'll quote tweet him or say Florida has nineteen Cova cases a day after Dan Mullen mournful stadium trying to make him look bad trying to make him look like an asshole these. I hate column. Corona Bros. because that's kind of trademark by somebody else. But these blue checkmark is that told you all year and all season this couldn't happen. The cultural couldn't happen are now going back at a coach insane making him look bad for for warning crowd and then covert issue showing up and basically basically spiking the football and celebrating the players have gotten Cova. It's crazy that these guys with these blue check marks who have been almost like they've been tamed over the entire time celebrate when a guy like Dan Mullen says something even. Makes him look in. The. Wrong. Demoines a great guy great coach I agree with with you on Daniel and I've always liked him. I've always thought he is is a stand human being I will say and I'm not putting the two together by the way like I think that these things are mutually exclusive. The fact that Florida is having a quote outbreak right now has nothing to do with the fact that Dan. Mullen said. That however I did immediately think when he said that that was a knee jerk reaction that he probably shouldn't have said because right now the whole idea is that if you pack thousands of people in, it's not very safe not because just those people are packing in because they then go home now again, I'm a believe in free. Will you don't WanNa be out fine when Dan Mullen said that It was a complete emotional reaction to the fact that they just lost an an and he thought am's home field advantage played into the wind while no ship. That's Kinda. The whole point of home field advantage. He probably shouldn't have said that in emotional reaction, right? Then because it is going to look bad no matter if they had an outbreak, but then these people are twisting his words as if he values football and winning the game over the over his players and young people getting cove it, and that's just not true. No. But but you can see how that could be spun because he was immediately like, why want ninety thousand people asking me? Is it spendable? Yes. Is it right to spend? No No of course not and he did he came out and said that he didn't mean that right? He was like I WANNA as full as health standards occasional let it but. Bill on Saturday Demo and ask the Ford Administration to allow them have nine thousand swampers. Houston have a better shot at winning less than seventy two hours later. Pauses activities because of covered positive player test. Then just saying that to try to got your own Mullen, damn of can go suck his own dick fuck him. Well, those things don't have anything to do with each other. That's where my problem with this comes in like I I personally don't think the Dan Mullen should have said that now again I think he acted out of emotion had he thought about it? He probably wouldn't have said it that way but what Dan? Mullen said has no effect on the fact that these players are having outbreak. It's not like because Dan Mullen said on Saturday I, want a pack stadium that now Florida has a billion cases they're completely separate of each other. That's been says Florida's Dan Mullen wants to risk ninety thousand lives because he can't coach under pressure no suck your own fucking fuck you. That's so fucking ninety thousand lines. That's that's a that's a I gotta give him credit. It's a hell of. Ninety like. What are we at of college players getting getting covert a hell of the head and how many? How many hospitals? There's also looking at college students. There's it's been widely reported that of all the college cases there's only been one or two hospitalizations. No no, it's bigger than that. It's there the spreaders. Could be, but also I'm going to have done moans back as well just because. He was following he wasn't saying Governor Rhonda Santa's changes rule. So he can win Rhonda Santa's whether you. It or not. He already changed through along with the Health Commission within Florida. So here's my thing I've said this from the very beginning if it is safe to play football which by. All Accounts Right now Medical Sasser saying that it's safe to play football. So anybody saying that Dan Mullen once ninety thousand people's lives at risk is just not simply looking at the fact that they are saying it's safe to play football. Now, the virus is very serious. I understand that I get that but just because a team has an outbreak is not a celebration of the fact that the virus is. Dangerous, and that's what people are treating it. As soon as these things happen, it's like Oh my God see we told you well, here's the the problem see. We told you college football still going to go on. So until the medical staffs across the country say it is no longer safe to play sports. These things are going to go on. So even if you celebrate you just Kinda look like an ass. Just, even looking at these, there's made me mad like there's a Florida state reporter Dick Sucker IRA that says. Quotes him saying I think we're a model safety and what we've been doing this time periods as Dan Mullen, and then they get in he says damn owned three days ago explaining why he thought Florida have ninety thousand people before they got the Cova like. These people are celebrating that Florida has covert. That's what they're doing, fuck I just get so mad that's okay and hopefully all those players that got Kovic recover perfectly and then Florida can play. Hopefully. They're going to even ninety percent of them are asymptomatic. But even so it's okay. Why are we doing this won't Distance. Let's are there many ninety, five year olds playing college football speaking speaking of a nine year olds relate the college football bobby bobby. Be, at, least right now, I know sometimes there's a little the timelines differ but right now he's been beating Cova and thank God for that because when I saw that my heart sank a little bit because we know the later you are in your life when you get the cloven and it's a little, it's a little bit more dicey. Also sources are saying that there are zero negative or zero positive tests at am. So the a Mississippi state game should not be affected by the fact that an play just got moved to the ESPN game. That's another thing that has not been talked about the transmission from team team has yet I have not seen one report of that I think wake forest and Notre Dame had some issues or there a. Misuse and a few earlier it WASN team two team. No. But. I'll be honest when I saw the Florida news hit yesterday I immediately assumed that an Mississippi state would be pushed to next week because there is they both have a bike next week so far on Wednesday. That is unhappy I guess I'm guilty of. Start playing I kind of spiked the football and we'll saying you know you guys were wrong. You thought it was not going to happen. It is happening. So when when covert issues pop up I, just I just think when they when they pop up and you have the same reporters who actively rooted for season nine to happen, come back and say something about Dan Mullen or say something about any coach. Like, you've you've been cheering from this mountaintop for six months and you've never been right. Don't try despite the football and Dan mullins face because you're just looking to save your own face. Yeah I I still. I. Mean I don't Care What Dan Mullen says but I he probably just shouldn't have said that. I also love Dan. Mullen. Risk Management Wise Ya probably just maybe shouldn't have said that. So Baylor has an outbreak of twenty eight players fourteen staffers Florida's taking taking one on one chain right now own this has some cova cases Yeah. It seems we're not really sure how big it is. I've seen one beat reporter say that a few more cases could wipe out the game, but that's one person out of Arkansas. Kansas. State. quarterback Skyler Thompson out for the season they looked fine without him the other day but Scott Thompson has who got to Kansas state in Nineteen ninety-two. In there forever. Yes. That was that was what I just wanted to I was reiterating it. You think I just interested though I was reiterating it. I don't know if I can handle you and start well this week and The good news is that one of us is going to have a listen short trip cut cut cut. What am I trying to say trip cut short? Yeah. I got friends of mine who I haven't talked to in years. They're like where you're going to be Friday I wanna see I wanNA meet Casey Casey. Lot of red blooded Americans out there. That feels nice. You. Haven't seen him. On your face. Well, I was I was told that you're purposely putting me in a situation where I'm going to get hit on all night and not in a good way. Back No. Just making a joke about somebody else. He was not making a joke because it wasn't even on the record. Off The record, you just put it on the record. I just told you. That you're gonNA put me in a situation where I'm not gonNA. Put You I. Didn't invite the guy he was talking about. Okay. He's lying about it. I invite that guy he doesn't think he's lying. He thinks you did it. I. Don't care what took don't kill Brian Hey dad says he's fat Oh. WHO'S BRIAN HATE? The thunder and lightning podcast about Mississippi state love that name name. That's a great name. PODCAST, he has better podcast names than me. I have better podcast has better podcastone great podcast names whatever keep going the news. Your years name was pretty good more cowbell. Fill like it was not original though. Still I liked it though. As a good logo to. Why are you going to be with that face? 'cause I'm a little tired of your shit. Well, we're just being honest. That's fine. We've got a lot of time spent together in the next few flying a plane together, but I asked specifically not to be sitting next to you. Know because you're in First Class I'm I'm I'm in the back row the airplanes tom man sacks i. don't WanNa be in first class you ask for it. I'm not first class by the way you are in First Class. I've seen it. You're in one e Emma really. Oh No. Who's saying it was funny if you're in first class and I'm well I I talk. To. Somebody. That oh yeah. I mean I can't I can't handle you please. Remember you won&#