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"From npr and wb. You are peter. O'dowd im tanya moseley. It's here and now. The trump administration can no longer use a public health emergency to justify deporting migrant children. Who crossed the border. The us border alone. That's the ruling of a federal judge in washington dc. Who struck down a policy from the cdc that the white house had argued would prevent it from spreading the corona and immigration detention. But the judge wrote in his ruling that the government overstepped its authority and trying to undo immigration. Laws passed by congress. Legal lert is an attorney with the aclu one of the organizations who sued the administration and lee. What's your reaction to this ruling. We're ecstatic you know for the for these children who are fleeing danger coming here all by themselves and had been routinely expelled by the trump administration. This was a cruel policy. Not unlike other trump administration policies directed at migrant children. It was also unnecessary. We've always viewed it as a pretext. The medical professionals at all said you can bring these children and test them as needed. Quarantine them as needed. But you don't expel them. Recent reporting has shown that. Cdc did not want this this policy in place. They were over ridden by the white house. So we are thrilled. We hope that the administration will not appeal it but we're not holding our breath given how the trump administration has been acting the immigration area for the past four years. Well i want to ask you more about that. I mean unaccompanied children with be placed in shelters. How many children have been expelled. Since the rules went into effect back in march at the start of this pandemic and what happened to them in mexico so the amazing thing is that the administration is not actually even providing numbers of children. Who have been expelled into this policy. We know from recording and leak sources that it's over thirteen thousand and that was as of a month ago so we expect that the number what we finally get into number. We'll be over. Fourteen thousand possibly fifteen thousand who knows but thousands thousands of children and their expelled to mexico if they're mexican and if they are not mexican they're put on a plane to whatever country. They came from usually central america. They were being hidden in hotels on the border. Sometimes detention centers. The policy was largely secret and then they were just put on a plane without an asylum hearing and children as young as ten years old thousands of children some as young as ten years old but these expulsions weren't limited to just children are are expulsions of other immigrants continuing and is that legal. So that's absolutely right. We believe that over two hundred thousand adults and families have also been expelled pursuant to this policy this particular case involved only unaccompanied minors. we hope. The trump administration will get rid of the policy but obviously we are evaluating next steps in the litigation because we're acutely aware that many adults and families are being harmed by the policy as well and you know we've been talking for several months about family separation. Is that still happening at the border. Under the trump administration so the fairly separation tragedy is still ongoing but there are very few continuance separations but the reason for that is because of this title forty two policy. No one's even being allowed in the country so therefore they're not being separated. The real issue now with family separation is that we still haven't found hundreds and hundreds of families who are separated at the beginning of the trump administration. We're searching for them and we would like to see. The biden administration do four things in particular with family separation. They comment we would like to see them. Allow parents who have been separated for years and are in central america to rejoin their children in the united states. We'd like to see all the families separated by the trump administration given some form of legal status given what they've been through what i think. Many people don't know is that the trump administration right now is trying to deport. All of these families who were previously separated the third point is. We'd like to see some kind of fun created to help. The families with medical needs but beyond medical needs and finally going forward. We wanna make sure that separations do not occur unless a child welfare experts signs off on it there is judicial oversight but the immediate thing is to provide provide relief for the families who have previously been separated. Lee immigration is very much a partisan issue. I mean these four asks of the biden administration sound really ambitious. Have you gotten any indication from the biden. Incoming biden administration that they would take on any of these four asks from from you so all we know at this point is that vice president biden has said this is an issue. He is very concerned about an and Is going to create a task for its. We haven't got specifics. I think there was just some things we don't do in the united states and one is making children pawns to score political points. League alert is civil rights lawyer with the aclu. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. More than a quarter of a million americans have now died in the coronavirus pandemic and according to the latest figures from johns hopkins university more than a million and a half americans have been getting tested for the virus every day. Testing has risen steadily over recent months but health officials say it's still far from adequate kerry goldberg from member station w. b. u. r. brings us inside one biotech companies scrambling to process the latest avalanche of tests in a brightly lit room about the size of a high school gymnasium. Workers are assembling and testing rows of machines and robots along gray metal tracks. So you see these little train cars. That are moving along. It's like it's like grown up train. That jason kelly is the ceo of gingko bio works a big biotech startup based in downtown boston. And what they're able to do is move little plates laboratory plates. That would have a bunch of different test samples in the plate and it can move them anywhere through the facilities. The tracks running through there was about about eighteen thousand square foot box standing in here a box. That's designed to process tens of thousands of corona virus tests a day at a time when there are growing calls for much more testing every few feet. A lime green robot arm towers above the gray rails. The arms pincers can pick the plate and move onto a piece of lab equipment than the equipment can run and in this case it would be doing is running cove. Nineteen diagnostic tests to see. Is this a positive or negative sample. Kelly hopes the gingko testing facility will be up and running by early december in the context of sort of reopening society for like workplaces in school. You need so much more of it than we're doing today that you absolutely have to start deploying new technologies like this if we're gonna make it cheap enough before we all have a widespread vaccine to really get the virus under control. Gingko bio works a forty million dollar federal grant to repurpose top of the line. Dna analysis machines. What's called next generation sequencing for corona testing. It's part of a federal project called raddatz that spending nearly half a billion dollars with the goal of adding a million more tests a day to the country's capacity by early next year. The company is also piloting a workplace testing program using saliva tests. Kinko's rob more pheno is working on that program so everything is designed to be quick but also convenient so we really want. People do testing part of the daily routine. Many people who've gotten tested in recent months would not call it quick or convenient or pleasant if it involved a deep nasal swab but the gingko bio works effort is part of the growing push toward a new phase of testing that includes shallower swabs and far more screening of people without symptoms. Dr thomas cy. A testing policy expert at harvard and brown university says he's seen remarkable strides on improving. Technical aspects of testing in recent months are officiency of our testing through. Newer technologies such as next generation sequencing. These are things that we were talking about as coming down the pipeline and but the future is now is here. These technologies are present. The challenge size says is that most tech innovations focused mainly on what happens in the laboratory. Speeding up the time. It takes to process tests but there are multiple bottlenecks. We have to consider it if we are to truly improve our testing strategy. We have to break. Through all of those bottlenecks. They include varying tests quickly to processing sites like the one. Copa works is setting up and getting results back to people quickly and persuading lots of people without symptoms to take the tests also the cost and availability of tests where they're needed most. Those are not technological questions. Those are complex questions around policy goals in public health. The technological aside is plenty complex. Well jason kelly ginkgo bio work says getting all the elements of this huge robotic testing system to work together is not trivial but ginko is known for large scale automation of life. Science lab work. It's what's known as a unicorn a startup valued at more than a billion dollars in this case. A billion dollars and kelly says the company is pitting technical. Heft against the coronavirus like this is basically the biological event of our lives. You know right. It would be like imagine this whole thing that was like tearing. The world of art was like a computer virus. Would google like sit it out. The company is when dozens working on new testing technologies and kelly predicts more rapid progress plus when the pandemic is over. He says the gingko bio works testing machines can be reused for the company's typical work like engineering new treatments for genetic diseases for here. And now i'm kerry goldberg. The nineteen eighties were good to michael. J. fox the actor shot to fame with roles in the sitcom family ties and the back to the future foods at backup. Don't have enough road to get eighty eight rows row but in nineteen ninety-one age of twenty. Nine fox was diagnosed with early onset. Parkinson's disease in two thousand. He founded the michael j. fox foundation for parkinson's research organization has raised a billion dollars to find a cure through it. All fox found a way to maintain his signature optimism until twenty eighteen when his sunny disposition took a significant hit fox underwent spinal surgery. Then a serious fall that forced him to confront his mortality. He writes about that year in his new book. No time like the future which is out this week and michael. J. fox joins me now. Welcome here tell me about that fall. Well i when dealing with my thirty thirty. Th year outlook parkinson's so that that kind of had handle on been ahead. Spinal tumor had surgery on that and it took me a while to learn how to walk again. I'd barely learn what getting when i of course declared independence until they could walk on my own. And i belong in so i got up. Walk into the kitchen swift flooring shattered my arm and all the dean indignities that was for some reason cutting blow so you as you say you were dealing not only with parkinson's for many years you've just gone through this incredibly dangerous surgery to remove a tumor from your spine. Just spend a moment there for a minute. How serious was that spinal diagnosis in was pretty seriously lifting for a while for a few years. But he's been in a benign and static wasn't doing anything from the dodgers. Just watch that check on every now and then so when the last time that checked on it had grown quite considerably was actually on spinal cord itself which then made Something that Attach because they can't in any way touch her to remove some spinal for when you touch it. But johns hopkins adopted feodor. When's your with me. Discuss the risk. The risk of not doing it where i would be paralyzed by now by as we speak from when win puts me that way i realized yeah and then there you are lying on the floor in your apartment in new york city. Your arm shattered. You'd gone through all of these challenges and gotten through them for the most part right. So where do you think the darkness came from. Why did you so desperately lose that optimism that to become known for some reason it was almost instantaneous last lemon unknown lemonade Unbelie it was angry myself for taking for granted Detention in the in the care they put into my health in my in my life and you know what family Asked me to be careful. When i said don't be careful. Careful careful Carelessly walking too fast and it was two kind of full of pride of of at my might chievements to understand the risks of taking an inadequate To at risk in all the time engine Physical therapists who put me at risk and anti alexander myself I agree as said about how they push china's within a bum. Catchy raised the land myself. They get passes the nothing it was like. I started thinking with the parkinson's community i Optimism tennessee. And i kind of said it'll be okay and and really there are people that had a misery index lot higher needle. Lend me with a broken arm. Bagging car is these are people who've lost lives homes country family children woodward by bam. Who am i to tell them to be have to miss it online on the slowly a rag or i can see why you would be angry but what about scared was scared to well. Isn't that what happened. Was that came out of that. Here that come off the floor and heavily armed fiction which function in a. I would let examined all these things. Fear aging gratitude. Just all of these things came through my mind. And as i made notes on them out for no reason Lebron you're going through something with take contemporaries in alabama a. He's not that. I said let's deceased together into the story of what happened and how i lost and regained my commitment. How might new. Optimism is kind of a little more informed with a little more realistic eating. Be realistic at the same time. You reminded us for those who need to be reminded how precious thing it is to walk. And i found the way that you described your relationship with wheelchairs to be very powerful at one point in the book said that. Unless you know the person who's pushing you can be a very isolating experience in fact you compared yourself to a piece of luggage and then you went on to say that if we could ever just look at each other in the eye we would recognize our shared humanity. And i just want to thank you for that. Because actually i had never thought of that before and those are probably things. I imagine that you for granted at some stage in your life as as being and i talked about that will move momentum me my life and and how i was always moving in in my job is an actor. Energy do stunts or having physical representations of what was happening or as an athlete another good one persona in so. When i look at things i will shares do thing one to have been nail biting person. My whole life into be can't walk in the other thing about being in the chair. Is that for me personally. I'm i'm i'm someone who is easily recognizable. Everybody knows intense speed familiar with and even if they don't know me as a privilege of what i do but when you're unsure you just a piece of luggage and pushing Order hotel something. He's escaped me from point being open to get five bucks in so you just stay in you push Facing the wall can't get into the verbally again. Like you will not have Beings open as they are. They might as well. Apple's own smoke last bubbles. Is that people to be going on with him. Well let's talk about your acting career. The thing that made it so that people recognize you on the street. You've gotten roles in recent years. The didn't hide the fact that you had parkinson's symptoms but actually incorporated that into the role such as louis canning of courses. The lawyer on the tv drama. The good wife with listen to a scene there. I suffer from a condition turtle disconnect asia which is released a funny word for neurological disorder. And it makes me do this. And this i if you just look at me all of us to it so and i won't mind in the book you say that you're ready to accept the your acting career is over to an extent i i laugh in fact it's something surprisingly something to change but yeah the last couple times. I acted i actually. I haven't played warners again anyway. Resume lines difficulty for some reason. Always been some interesting. Even with. I look at her family. Ties scripted from five minutes Show and i just said they photographic memories Position where i didn't know struggling with the lines Lear capital in time in hollywood going off assessing what. What is the deal. But unlike him in that movie. Who's parading himself really angry when i found myself in that position. I said i'll gable. This isn't working so maybe we'll find some other way to do it or not. Do you also say you may be done with gulf another thing that you've loved. How is it letting these things go or acknowledging that it might be time soon to let them go. Insights about acceptance and gratitude and acceptance. Part of it is what is accepted into circuit. That is what liz i can deal with that. An investing came endeavor to change it. But if you don't accept the and be more blog that be cranny of your life Adjusted so. I accepted the fact that i assume golf club too hard. I fall down in a like boohoo. I'm falling nanosecond. Only now therefore i don't put myself in that position again fall down on but maybe one day i'll be treated in a way or find some way to get so. I don't fall down in the gulf again. I'll be grateful for it. It's just a matter. Is that come compartmentalizing really. It's taking inventory seeing where that fits in your life and the losses that have had are more than compensated for by my family my friends by the role habit in the parsis communities it change to relationships with people on the street to how much i enjoy reading how much film much writing is less to joe you live. I'm speaking with michael j. fox whose new book is called no time like the future and optimists considers mortality and michael. Similar listening to this may have just been diagnosed with parkinson's and that could be very frightening for them as you. Well know in fact you become an ambassador of sorts. For for folks with parkinson's what's your message to people who've just recently been diagnosed as i was talking to manually. Today's few was just diagnosed in like me was diagnosed. Daytona nine Items that was twenty nine years ago. So i did. I said for you. Being diagnosed a twenty nine means for sure no doubt bank on it. Better write it down. It will be here in your lifetime. And how much credit can the fox foundation take for that. I will take not moods. It'd be happy happened. We we are the largest funded research in private sector but never a mission. Our mission is we have a thing. When we first started we about how to structure foundation dissimilar brought up endowments down like e bala money said on this again and said we won't be doing that. Come to go out so we operated on then in the set aside purely motive. Where would you do it. It's your model that each is trying to get this work done as quickly as we can for people in. It's been so yeah. Optimism is is a driver knows every night. You because because there's no sense doing something again at least argue for michael j. fox thank you so much. Be well you to support for here and now in the following message is brought to you by the new england innovation academy and innovative engine for students in grades six through twelve the first middle and high school that prepares innovators to shape the world. Through human centered design heart world school part incubator teaching the cultural dexterity and global focus. This era demands to learn more visit. Any i academy god. President trump's latest nominee to the federal reserve board. Judy shelton is in limbo after the senate refused to approve her this week and although some republicans are hoping to get another chance to advance her nomination to the central bank time is running out. Let's bring in mike regan senior editor for bloomberg news and mike. Shelton's candidacy has stalled for about a year and a half because she faces opposition on both sides of the aisle. Why has it taken so long for the senate to get to this point. What's on the main issue is. She's just a very controversial nomination due to her past views that are sort of way out of the mainstream of economic thinking and also because her opinions seemed to really change to align herself with president trump when he came into office to sort of back up the the things that trump wanted out of the fed so republican leadership in the senate really had a tough time building the support that they would need to pass her through the senate. There are actually three. Republican senators mitt romney susan collins and lamar alexander who oppose her and there are also two other republicans truck grasp shot chuck grassley. Rick scott who are in quarantine for the virus straight now so even if they were able to sort of drum up a tie and have mike pence votes to break the tie with those two senators out on quarantine. They just don't have the votes to even get get to a tie that the vice president could break and talking about some of her controversial views. She's faced criticism for her view that the value of the dollar should be tied to gold the. Us really has essentially not been on the gold standard for almost one hundred years. Is it unusual for president to nominate. Someone with views are so outside of the mainstream. I absolutely especially to get them this far. President trump did sort of push the envelope so to speak in this realm by discussing appointing both herman cain and stephen moore to the fed earlier in his term Both of them never made it this far. Where there's actually the potential to be voted on so this is likely the most controversial nominee to make it this far in the process that we've seen in a long time you laid out really well for us. The chances of her approved and the stacks against her but if she were approved she'd be on the board through twenty twenty four. What impact with likely which she likely have on the fed's role in navigating recovery from the pandemic right so there are seven members of the federal reserve board. All seven of them are part of The twelve member open market committee. Which is what we sort of. Think about when people reference the fed. Because that's the committee that sets interest rates and other policies that's directly affect the markets and the economy. So she gets just one vote So that means. She doesn't have a huge poll on that policy. But i think what the critics are getting at is sort of a distraction and a bad influence on the whole process. There's also concern about just opening that window opening that door towards purely politically motivated members of the fed which i think politicians on both sides of the aisle want to avoid that because they you know it's just a dangerous precedent to set to sort of have these very politically loyal members of the federal reserve. Actually get onto the board like that. That's mike regan. Senior editor for bloomberg news As we heard earlier in the program a federal judge has blocked the trump administration from deporting unaccompanied migrant children under a public health. Emergency order one of the architects of that policy is senior white house adviser. Stephen miller who has been behind many of the administration's controversial immigration policies with a new administration. Coming miller will soon lose his prominent role in the white house. But our next guest argues he will still have a lasting impact. Gene guerrero is the author of hatemonger. Stephen miller donald trump and the white nationalist agenda and gene. You argue that. It is impossible to truly understand. The trump era without first tracing miller's ascension to the role is trump senior adviser. Same more. exactly you know. I had been reporting out of the busiest border crossing in the united states. And i kept hearing this narrative out of the white house that you know that that the family separation policy and and all of their immigration policies were about law and order that they were just trying to keep americans safe. But i knew from my experience reporting on the ground that that was not the case that they were primarily targeting families who are breaking no laws. So i felt that. I if i really wanted to understand the intentions behind the immigration policies. I was going to have to look at the person who was shaping. The policies not person being stephen miller in understanding. What motivates them understanding. What motivates stephen miller. And in your book you actually draw a through line between upbringing and liberal blue state california. Where he grew up in santa monica and his conservatism which began in middle and high school. Who and what were his influences. Exactly you know. Stephen miller is truly a product of the california of the nineties today. Most people think of california's this very blue state. Kind of leading the charge against trumpism in many ways but back then. There was a lot of anti immigrant. Hostility and a real resurgence of white supremacy. That is sort of a microcosm for what we're seeing nationally today. You know the governor. Pete wilson was blaming all of the state's fiscal and crime problems on immigrant families. There were advertisements running on television. That showed families crossing the border and an ominous narrators voice saying the kids coming and so stephen miller was internalizing this rhetoric and acting it in his very diverse public high school. He would go around telling his mexican classmates to speak english to to go back to their countries he would go into school board meetings to argue passionately against measures to improve racial equity. And what. I found through my reporting for the book. Is that during this time. Period in his life is when a man named david. Horowitz came into stephen miller's life and became almost like a father figure to him. You know horowitz is a former marxist turned right wing radical who believes that everything that we hold dear in american society is a result of white men. It's a completely a historical idea. That ignores the central role of people of color in this country's history but these are ideas that appealed to stephen miller gave him a framework to understand a feeling of displacement that he was undergoing at that time period. And you know. He gave him the tools to fight multi-culturalism which he came to perceive as an existential threat. And what's what's interesting. What you're saying here is He learned the tools to fight multi-culturalism but in many ways using some of the same tactics that those in the civil rights movement us to really call attention to discrimination and segregation regarding people of color exactly because david came from the radical left and joined the radical right. He taught men like stephen miller. The the weapons of the civil rights movement to attack civil rights so for example casting white conservative men as victims of discrimination based on their skin color using terms like racist or oppressor to describe communities of color completely inverting and deflecting the language of the civil rights movement and the left last year former breitbart editor Katie mccue shared emails from stephen miller showing his belief and endorsement of white supremacy. And you actually met with her in the course of writing this book. What did she help you understand and piecing all of this together you know. She told me that he helped to radicalize her at a young age when when she was feeling vulnerable and when she was feeling displaced by pumping her full of you know information from these websites that falsely depicted people of color somehow innately more violent than white people. You know the use of false crime. Statistics about black people in about immigrants are very common. White supremacist recruiting tactic. And this is something that stephen miller used with katie and led to her radicalization where she began to spouse very racist beliefs and it wasn't until she realized that this movement was you know ultimately going to lead to acts of mass violence that she decided to separate and tried to atone for for some of her behavior by sharing. These emails with stephen miller miller never agrees to an interview with you. But you do talk with several people. He grew up with and and some people in his close circle but others. Mostly trump's camp have pushed back against your assertions. You've actually said that. Steve bannon has called you insane hater. What has been the reaction in response to your book. And why is it important now. Well i mean the. The reaction has been a recognition and i think an increased willingness among our nation's storytellers are in our nation's journalists to call white nationalism by its name. I think there's been a real reluctance from day. One of the trump administration to to call the agenda. What it is is the white nationalist agenda. I didn't write this book to tell readers. That stephen miller has hate in his heart. But what i can tell you is that he is fluent in hate and he deliberately uses the language of hate and reaches out to communities to try to incite hatred. You know based on strategy papers that. I reviewed the talk about the political utility of hatred. The this is not an inaccurate way. To describe with the administration is doing. Stephen miller has used hate mongering to divide americans and to rally people around an agenda that is pulled directly from think tanks funded by white supremacists. Who believe in population control for non white people. You know. we're having this conversation right now as as we're entering a new year and a new administration. But you've noted that one of stephen miller's lasting influences will be how he has changed the way the department of homeland security functions domestically and what ways exactly you know one of the most surprising things about reporting the story of stephen miller. Life was the realization that this is so much bigger than the immigration issue or even issues related to to racial and social justice. Because you know. Stephen miller is essentially a public relations. Flack who at the age of thirty one without any policy. Experience was put in charge of the department of homeland security which is supposed to protect americans from everything from you know domestic terrorism To cyber warfare to things like pandemics and he from day one narrowed the focus of the department to target communities of color so specifically immigrant families and homeland security experts spoke to for the book. Tell me that this left. Americans more vulnerable to a range of real threats like the pandemic and you know like white supremacists extremists who are currently on the rise. What do you think is next for him well. If trump had won reelection his plan was to try to eliminate birthright citizenship. You know in our constitution. It says that if you are born in the united states you are automatically a citizen of this country and stephen miller you know and and trump had deemed this to be too politically risky ahead of the twenty twenty elections and they were hoping to implementation december second term so i i believe that you know once. They leave the white house as they're supposed to do that. Stephen miller will continue to pursue paths to reduce and restrict the access to legal immigration. And i think you know. Stephen miller from the time he was a teenager has been really skilled at using media. And i think this is a tactic that he is going to continue to use to radicalize people and to instill hatred in their hearts towards communities of color. That's reporter and author. jean guerrero. Jane thank you so much. Thank you so much in california. Companies like uber in lift a fortune passing proposition. Twenty two ballot measure aimed at changing labor laws for gig workers now. Those companies are starting to lobby for similar changes in other states. But critics say that california's new law is a step back from existing worker protections la times business reporter sue. Hana hussein is tracking the story. Sahana welcome to be here and we've had some time to process the impact of this election. So what's the sense there in california about how wide ranging the impact will be of passing prop twenty two. I think obviously it. It's a huge deal with major implications. Not only for california but for the gig economy in the united states as well because the companies like google left have indicated that they are hoping to now. I take this model to other states and potentially to the federal level as well. Let's talk about what changed. What's the biggest change. Now that this law is going into effect. Yeah i mean okay. So the biggest change is that workers for these big companies. You know so drivers for uber and lift and delivery workers for companies like instacart and Jordache they will be classified as independent contractors There had been kind of a fight in the state of california over how to classify these workers. And what that means is those workers will not have access to the suite of benefits that come with employment status in in the but the measure does offer some benefits So workers will newly have access to win. The law goes into effect in mid december. Right companies argued that it would pay drivers a higher wage for one would offer them some money or a stipend for health benefits but some critics of prop twenty two saying that was that. was misleading. right so broadly. The law requires that companies provide an hourly minimum wage for time spent on rides equal two hundred and twenty percent of either the local or statewide minimum wage on it also gives workers driving at least fifteen hours a week like stipend for health insurance coverage and one for those putting in twenty five hours a week on the important thing to know about these. Two benefits though is that it applies to drivers active time. So it doesn't count the time that a driver would spend like waiting around for arrived at the time that they spend like going to pick up someone or when they have someone in the car so critics have pointed out. It's objectively weaker than what the state minimum wage is for employees. And that sort of thing you know. The pr machine was in four effects on this proposition. Companies like uber and live spent a lot of money trying to get prop twenty two passed. But do you think it's kinda surprising that it did pass in california and this is a place where liberal policies in support of workers might actually be expected to thrive not policies. That would favor big corporations. I think it was a surprise for a lot of people not only because california's the labor friendly state but also just because it's hard to get ballot initiative passed. You know it is. It is pretty surprising. I think a lot of people were shocked. But at the same time this campaign was operating like the airwaves. Tv ios social media really putting out their message and pretty much. Everyone has those apps and they were also pushing those that message to the ops. Are you saying that when opened up my uber app on my phone that i would get an ad from uber telling me to support prop twenty two. Yeah like especially in the weeks ahead of the election users in california. We're getting those constantly comfortable audience. What are you hearing from drivers. And other gig workers Now that they're preparing for this law to go into effect in december. I'm sure their opinions. Run again. it. What are you hearing. Yeah you know ahead of the election. I was hearing from drivers on both sides like i think drivers who felt very strongly that they didn't want to be classified as employees. And also those who who date because they they don't feel like they have enough benefits and protections and they were sort of at the whims of these major corporations. But i think there are also people in the middle of that who both felt like employee. Status was not the answer but also were worried at like these companies have even more control over or like the leverage it would give these companies in terms of. I'm in their relationship with drivers and workers before. Let you go as you know. California is often a testing ground for new policies. I mean what do you think. Does this concept now. Spread to other states. You mentioned uber and lyft already have their eye on other places. I think this is a huge blow. And i think you know makes it a lot harder for people in other states to put up a fight against a model like this just because it didn't work here from the perspective of labor advocates. So i think it does make it a lot tougher That but that doesn't mean you know. Things are set in stone and another thing to consider is at the federal level. The biden administration could Rethink the way workers are classified at the federal level and we see a political committee called illinois ins for independent were created. Last june it was funded entirely by lift. So we'll see how. This progresses across the country. I la times business reporters. Hana hussein. thank you very much here. Now is a production of npr wb. You are and association with the bbc world service. I'm peter o'dowd i'm tanya moseley. This is here and now
The Televerse #452- Spotlight on Better Things Season 4
"Well maybe some money. Listen -ality and welcome to the televise. This is Kay calls in terms of everybody knows Kirkpatrick and Knoll We are rounding we today. As we recorded we finished up our six week of streaming in place. So we're almost done. What's you seasons of Lucifer It's it's a lot it is. Yeah that second season Lucifer's five says longer than the first season of For our guys did you. You said earlier you were anticipating an a lengthening of your state. You guys have. Have you heard about that yet? On the press conference that is in our as we record. Okay so I imagine you let me know we've got a whole another month in Illinois and I'm very grateful for that Because of lots of various things Just yeah some places are open right now. Indiana's open right now and I don't live right by the border or anything like that. Seems very strange to me. It's a strange world role living in right. Now I guess is the main thing This week in social distancing and and there is some. There's some good stuff I you know. I've been enjoying some good news thing that John Chris case doing This week they did cooking and so they had. He had big name chefs cooked. People's like potluck recipes like so it was David Chang Guy Fury A bunch of people and then they like. They zoomed with the people who had sent recipes in so on and and watch them make it and then they gave the food at they donated the food So yeah it was really cool. It was very highly recommended. And then they also 'cause I'm not a good cook but I know some a to g did someone's Corny Delightful of course as expected. I also really enjoy. Amber oftens amber says what about what now have to be attracted to Stanley Tucci? It's like amber you're behind. The three nine been tapped attraction Stanley Tucci for awhile. I dot is a balding man and the other big thing this week for me. Of course was the Stephen Sondheim ninetieth birthday celebration which was on Sunday and I did not watch it live at do not watch it on at the time but I watched the the I watched the one or two clips on Sunday night and you better believe. I watched the whole thing Monday morning while I was while. I was getting some work done. delightful wonderful and some of those sequences must have taken a lot of effort to figure out our into edit together specifically before. Kestrel overture that they did with everybody. Taping themselves individually at home. I'm sure they're all listening to clip. Track a click tracks and such but like. That's not even just ruined editing perspective. Yeah Yeah yeah a lot so way to go guys. Did you watch any of these? You hear any of these. I heard about the the branching ladies ladies who lunch ladies who want yes. I heard about that ban on the share wattage of people performing that And I heard about the Which call it the onion unreleased number from assassins that they performed as well Tweeted Rachel going. How did I never know about this song? It's assassins one. It's a weird like united discussed. This a weird niche show anyway as Rachel Bloom loves assassins right things like she loves the show and so she just didn't know this existed and I I think also that's delightful like that's my takeaways. Even though I didn't haven't watched any this year amount of joy that brought like people that I was paying attention to and also like other people were paying attention to the sued. Retweeting at everything. I just really loved that and I found it. Very heartening I mean my partner. I watched alien that day because it was alien day but it was still really really nice just to see all about mit. I really appreciated. Just the joy. Yeah Yeah No. I definitely watched the whole thing. And then went back and read the live tweets from a bunch of Nice. Yeah highly recommended. Rachel Bloom just being like a yell at all. The commentators are the dykes. Shut up this musical theater people away. You're not invited. Yeah no that's that's not that's not who this is for. It's not for the movie stars. Who are just trying to get a Tony Award. This is for people who are able to calls Stevenson. Time Steve and and they're also Randy Rainbow who's very available which was delightful for him to end his segment Yeah it was. It was really terrific There were some wonderful surprises. There are some songs that I didn't know I the the someone in a tree was really good. Because that's I don't know if you know that song but it's about perspective over time and and About a an old man reflecting when he was a child and climbed a tree and observed the signing of a peace treaty. That no-one there are no records of like so. It's like no one knows what happened. He's like actually I. I was there. I was in a tree and And so the song is an. There's also someone who's hiding underneath the building when it's happening. So the song is is about the perspective of time the young man the old man and then this other person in if nobody knows that they saw it does that. There's always someone watching kind of thing but they didn't in zoom box so 'cause normally there's a kid in a tree in there's an old man underneath the treat rate so the so they had the squares and they were taking advantage of like what so. I'm just thinking of the logistics of filming it because the like they have the on of course they're all direct to camera so they have to have memorized. And then you look up today because we're GONNA move your box to be here and remove the other box to be there so now you're gonNA look like you're looking in the tree and now you're looked down to the right because we moved box just like the mechanics of that A lot to keep track of and they did. A wonderful job is also a hard song. But it's a really cool song. It's one of those songs that doesn't seem like it's hard when you watch people who know what they're doing but if you appreciate if you if you have done enough music or you know understand it you you can appreciate just how tricky it is to really nail it in the digital one full job so there's a bunch of really great moments like that there's also Armitage who's young sheldon. Who like video of him when he was even younger singing? Look I made a hat like. He's just like this like six or seven year old kid doing look at it just so cute adorable all sorts of good stuff so yet highly recommended. If you need like some background music if you need You're trying to think of. What did I put on like? It would be nice to not. Have you know a podcast about corona virus or politics right now? It two and a half hours pretty guy is great. There's fun stories. It's a good feeling to that in the show nuts today other some other fun news the one day at a time team. We're GONNA talk about their upset this week superman but they also there. That was the last one I think they were able to film before they shut down. So they're going to do. Which is I think a I. I don't think anyone else has come out saying they're doing this. They're going to film an animated special which is really smart and something that they can do while they're distanced They have a concept. I don't know if it was like they partially filmed something that they're gonNA use. None go into animated sequences or if the whole thing's going to be animated but I think that's very creative in a good Smart Way to be able to do some form of production during all of this. Yeah I'm mostly interested in what the animation is going to be since animation is not not a thing that you can necessarily do at home depending on like depending on like. Yeah what computer you have at home. Yeah right because like I mean. I haven't discussed this but like the entire spring anime seasons basically done added only started like three weeks ago because that's all that they were able to produce three to four episodes for a lavish a lot of shows so because of the rapid turnaround of stuff in that industry. So I'm really curious about like let's see animation process for you all because that's still something you can't do it home depending on Like you just said people setups. So I'm really curious about that And how it's GonNa work. I'm really I really WANNA see it. But I'm really curious about that from just like a industrial production level. Yeah I think I saw something about family coming to visit or something to yet. Different perspectives. Like each main characters is GonNa have like some like something about their interpretation of like the family or what they think is going to happen when they commerce like that so I would. I would kind of anticipate Bob's burgers style like the kids telling episode. Yeah the kids. Tell an episode but but each each sequence reach character gets a different animation. Style is sort of what I'm anticipating but yeah and so that way they can also farm it out to different shops. Y'All which different parts of the episode like X. Minute sequences or something like that but I don't know which is still a lot of work all I know is that we're GonNa get another episode with the Alvarez's so this isn't enough. Who but we'll talk a little bit but while I was watching But I was watching and rewatching sometime. You were watching another special Viewing thing on youtube this week. And it was the Frankenstein thing. We talked about when it first. Yeah so the National Theatre is allowing people to stream for free benedict. Cumberbatch is in Jonny Lee Miller's performances Frankenstein which they did back in twenty eleven twenty twelve's over in England and so right now the from Thursday through to next Thursday's so the six hundred seven suns I think You can watch benedict Batch play the creature and Jonny Lee Miller play victim Frankenstein and the next the following week. After that they swapped they do the performance swap. And you can watch cumberbatch play Victor Frankenstein and Miller played the creature so I watched this on Thursday and it was pretty solid. I thought like I think I'd much rather watch the Miller. Version of the creature than cumberbatch is version of the creature. Nothing against I. Just don't know that it worked in. I don't know that Miller quite works as Frankenstein. But then there's also just like it's a weird sort of like technical shows while in terms of special effects of really cool light installation. They may just specifically for this show. That is really stunning even on the screen. I can't even imagine experiencing at like in the theater. But then there's also like this rotating platform comes out from below the stage like is tilted and all the stuff which like I mentioned I think I've mentioned my partner. I've been watching slings and arrows and she just kept yelling in a very daring Nichols esque way of like Geoffrey. You don't understand my vision. I need lames all actual fire on the stage in a platform. That comes out from under the stage. Jeffrey and which is delightful. The Darod has made such a great impact on her considering watched once and I'm just like a title of your nickel so it's very much that I think that it lacks kind of thematic through line to certain degree. There's neat stuff in there. That just doesn't follow through which I'm shocked shocked. The Danny Boyle wasn't able to manage a thematic through line. Danny Boyle noted for his thematic through lines But I still think it's worth watching. I think maybe wait until next week. If you're interested to see Miller play the creature which from what I've read is generally the preferred version preferred staging of the play. So I'll probably circle back to that next week but I'm probably also going to have it on like a little bit in the background. I will say that you do have to power through like the first ten minutes. I tend to fifteen minutes of the play because it is just the creature kind of floundering around verbalizing end learning how to walk again. And it's an intense amount of physicality work so I can understand why they were trading off. 'cause I can't imagine doing that for eight performances straight every week. 'cause I would die and I have to Magin Tight to So it's worth watching. I think but like I. I think it may have been over hyped for me but they both Wanna Libya awards for their respective like work in this. Which just the sheer amount physicality to play decrease. I think this just fockers. So yeah that say. I'm just mentally still your tweet about. Cummerbunds are so upset that he was just like such card under ruse. I was just just just wanted. Some just wanted some just want some but some dog breasts later but we don't get any dog and I'm very upset at times negatives Okay let's Ya stage. How does that work? Because they read through the teens. Right over the new Pun for the twenty s and it takes too much mental energy. So we're GONNA listen to some pretty music and be right back after this to talk about are we can. Tv after that at the end of the show we are talking about season. Four of better things which is wrapped up this week with its Season Finale us. Let's coming at the end of the show but until then let's take a break. Listen to some music and come back with our week. Dvd things. I wish you new ones free Whoa you Hum this week and we're GONNA kick things off with a live all parks and recreation talk or I will 'cause 'cause that's not your jam null and that's okay. I'm trying to be more accepting then. We'll talk a little one day at a time and there were calling their midseason finale because there are less apps for a while that was super moon than what we do in the shadows the curse the move of Dijon with bat woman a narrow escape and the flash liberation than we're going to catch up with the good fight which is back the Ganga's call from HR and then we'll head over to reality things up so first top chef all stars L. A. Pitch Perfect then. I'll talk briefly about. We're here twin. Falls Idaho and Drag RACE CELEBRITY EDITION. And we'll run these out with repulsed race Choices Twenty twenty touchy so much Chelsea Comey Cameo will get their first. Up is the parks and recreation special which I liked. I thought it was charming and Nice. the Internet loved it a lot more than I did. I thought it was was was charming and fun and and nights like that's it It was It was nice to spend some time with characters that I enjoyed and for some people it clearly was very comforting to them. And whatever you're going to get take comfort from right now as long as you're not hurting anybody that's awesome you do you and enjoy it. I'm not gonNA yuck anyone's young for me. I I thought parts of it were better than others because of course Nick Offerman is married to Megan Mullaly. They could actually interact so They so they had. I mean spoiler alert but they had her character. Be Hiding outside of Ron's place because she's obsessed with Ron. And then they got to associate was tied up and everything and they got to do some fun stuff there but I've particularly they did a good job for coming up with very reasonable explanations. Why the characters who are married are not in scenes together because the actors are not So one of them is back to working as a nurse. So so she's social associates distancing from her family so as to not Infects them one of them? Accidentally locked himself in a shed. And and then the other one They're in different states because of one works of the government in in DC. So like they the the balance they found for very reasonable reasons. That actors can't be that character who should be together during quarantine aren't at least for the purposes of this call. They also made it a daily phone call. I think that they're like the FOMC they're setting up every day so you buy that. They have like Wade or like plan their time ahead to make sure that they were together for this call thing that happens every day then. I just happened to be in the room or like I'm headed out the door tonight. So thank makes more sense so I think that you know they wrote around the realities of how they had to film it at the very believable and and effective way it was like a tight half hour right no longer than necessary. They've appropriately started ended. It with with Leslie and Ron and yes. It is only for fans of the show. The there's a big old sing along that is meaningless to anyone who doesn't already love the show and in it's all callback but if you do then you're going to enjoy this episode so Yet there was a good and delightful number of cameos and guest spots so there are some people that would have been nice to see pop up. Who Don't but I don't know where they would fit them. The timing the pacing was pretty good So no Joe Biden is no no. I just I for me. It didn't In a week where there also was Bernard. At Peter's singing you are not alone. Acapella gorgeous -ly at the age of seventy two in tribute to Stephen Sondheim and what we're all dealing with right now. Like there's there's no way it's GONNA be in my list of things I found most moving and comforting. Because it's not even the same conversation is that and some of the other moments in the summertime thing but A lot of people were loved it and I think that's great. I think that they achieved their objective and It was it was charming so I certainly enjoyed it. I'm very glad but yet don't watch it. No because this is not for you. Yeah no I knew. It was not for me If we hadn't watched the Frankenstein thing we probably would have watched this. Even though my partner hasn't watched the last season a direct and so she was kind of a wary about watching it Which is the ultimately. The reason why we ended up watching Frankenstein instead but Hopefully they'll keep it available for streaming home so she can watch it when she finally does last season. You'll I mean it's a fundraiser for charity so I would expect them to leave it up. Yahoo also a while so we'll see Our next show is one day at a time. Superman and I think I don't know if this was intended to be like a halfway through the season pause like always but this works were rural. Well as a midseason finale. It does yeah. It's really like I think that there's a lot of things to like about this episode from the whole everyone's confused about why the roots looks so pretty and then like kind sidestepping. The obvious succumb hijinks of. Did you do this yes I did because I did not forget about our special day and all that kind of stuff and instead like allowed folks to kind of have like all these couples to have these little small conversations about what's a relationship looking like or what what am I. Insecure about in the fact that you have a crush on a real person. No we were just naming celebrities and fictional characters. What do you mean the Barista? So I think there's a lot of like really fun little things like that but I think ultimately the two things that I was sort of happy about and this episode was we finally sort of discussed season three a little bit in so far as we acknowledge. Schneider is back on the back on. The wagon is working through Spidey once again. We're not really dealing with any of the hall out of his falling off the wagon from season three which. I'm still a little frustrated by. But then we get the discussion of Cuba and why the Cuba thing hasn't been in any way shape or form present and the discussion around that I think is really really lovely and I think the very nice moment in which they prevent the law deasy laugh of Schneider wanting to come in but then like pushing homicides because this is very much just arms and I think that's really good and really honest to all of those characters so does indeed feel like a really perfect sort of like midseason finale even like you said it wasn't intended as such so. I think it really works. I also just really liked that penelope and guy whose name I can't remember. But whose a hunk of Max Max. Yeah come to an agreement. That's not traditional but also will work for them and I think that's really important from a representational standpoint Hopefully because I'm glad that Max's grown enough that he can accept that yeah well and it sounds like they're on the same page which examined mice it just to see a character like I. It's not unexpected. From what we know her but to have her response to a what would be a way too soon. Marriage proposal like way too soon unless like their stuff that they know that we don't know that they have intentionally not talk to us about on the show right With a NOPE NOPE NOPE Nope NOPE nope. Running away note was awesome and and into that. Of course the conversation gets to be okay but yes also heard agree but why so many knows with a lot more fun. That's the more interesting conversation to have. Like how clear they are that at least right now. She has no intention of ever getting married again and really does not want to and not in a way that feels like trauma but in a way that feels like hard earned progress for her. I think that's really lovely. And I think they they executed and they Explicit like they have her verbalize that really really. Well so yeah. It's like her reaction to we're going to have to do like intermittent dating and long distance is like Oh my God. That's the dream yes exactly. It's lovely I really. I really enjoyed it. Yeah it was very good The the fake outs with Schneider and avery and with the different couples very good very nice and then the ultimate resolution the notion of Snyder making that Scheider making that banner for this like it's a bit much were maybe that was the only font they could find or that casino. That sounds like it feels a bit on the nose but also he's very cheesy so like he is deeply deeply cheesy. Yeah but it doesn't really matter just like Webby. Who is it? Who is love everyone? Everyone loves loves. Yeah Well who also loves Love is Nadia. So let's go over to you what we do in the shadows and the curse. I was very grateful for the return of the doll Not Because of what did you. What did you think of this episode and Poor Guillermo who keeps having event helsing when he really doesn't want to? I mean I wasn't expecting a payoff that so quickly. Like I honestly did not expect that the amateur vampire hunter group to come back This fast let alone for the digging caught in an actual vampire another actual Vampire House on Staten Island Muscle. A really scary one. Like legitimately not okay. there's just too many vampires in that house Just too many but I then tire sequences really really great and I also appreciated that. They had the character member of the crew when they were writing Yeah that was awesome. I was like what wait? What about the crew? Then it's like no. We didn't forget I was like thank you for not forgetting the crew because the prices are just can eat the crew. Y'All I thought it was really funny. I feel really bad for that guy who got killed slashes. Probably now familiar because he was a virgin. They should've listened to him. Well you think he's do you think he's GonNa come. He's coming back but you think he's going back as a familiar or as a vampire. I hope it's familiar just so that there's that little tension there but we'll see So I really like all of that stuff. L. But the whole curse with the chain letter from Nana's hotmail account just gold. And I really the thing I appreciate most about. It was the fact that they zagged real hard on. It became a Colin Robinson. Joke instead of like a big real panic about bloody mary of him just like completely boring them to death and sucking all their energy. I loved it very much. The season is just firing on all the cylinders. And I'm just really impressed with what they're doing so far this season. I just need more already. How'd you feel about the Simpson Elvis delightful? It was really fun. It's very good and Yeah I it's GonNa be it's GonNa be one that I start sitting my family down to watch because it's just it's really funny. Going into the lengthy description of Colin knows that this is bullshit right yes. He's just enjoying jess using her though he just really enjoying them in his Just the prospect of how it could feed this entire company if they're also as gullible as his remains is is one of the better sequence and like the all of the the whole cast has just really good at be having their energy staffed by Colin. They've gotten really good. That connects Trying to fight it but like not just really really good. Yeah it's good stuff I like I like the dynamics of of the Najah Laszlo thing. Like of like the curse. Your arm doesn't stop a curse so you're GonNa Watch It's very very funny and I think they pushed the right amount of ridicules before you know coming up with the ten emails to like at Circuit City. Being like the card they come up with is just yeah. Lots of really good flourishes and details so yeah I'm super on board meeting agendas I am also on board with Bat. Women a narrow escape. I liked what we get in most of this episode particularly like the okay. Yeah also bruce totally is killed people. Why do you think the jokers not around he does? It's not good not a positive thing but you know and it's in a way they can on right it if they wanNA enright it because it's it's characters perspective. It's not something that were shown but like I love that reasoning for why he disappeared. Why that's why he's not here anymore and also Look what happened to the city as soon as he left and also no. We're not doing. The joker guys the definitely not doing the joker The I liked very much everything. Actually that we got in this episode except the ending is such a stupid detail but it bothers me so much. Why does she take a king with her own? King the Queen on the chest. She didn't take the she was the black chest piece. She didn't take the white chess piece and go like checkmate win. She took black the base setting chessboard. A Ha- take the king with my own Okay no it. Shouldn't bother me but it really. I think it's for I think. Also Kate like yeah no he may maybe tilted joker that was before all the world's got collided back together so we don't know yes to if there's another joker on this planet now as a result so who knows but don't u the joker there's no need for about the joker. They're barely handling. Tommy Elliot. Very well right now So this K. I really like all the stuff we got Mary being like cat. No you're perelman good. Glad we're done. We're done with this now. We can just move on and also now. We have Mary on the team full time. And I'm very here for that Less confident about everything. They're doing with loop what they've been building up to for the past couple episodes with him sort of getting really angry and frustrated with the judicial system re his dad loses kelt murderer. And all this it feels really just kind of out of it doesn't fit with both how the character has been written but also the emotional thing that we've seen with the character as well. It is kind of feels a lot less jobs for me. So I've been kind of struggled with that element of it but I really feel like they're trying to Towards that version of Luke that existed crisis on earths to a certain degree. And I'm like that. Luke was bad. Don't do that. That looked at work please. I know you're not going to do that. But it doesn't feel like it fits the show so stop doing this. It just feels it feels off and it doesn't feel as earned as I think it should be so that's really kind of struggle with it but I know that this ultimately is about like our sisters so I'm not trying to up on it. Well it They're jumping sometime in like mid episodes. So there's that but not nearly enough for the transformation they're wanting to see a needed to have been more gradual more subtly handled. Unless it's supposed to be out of character like overreaction that's GonNa stabilize which is possible but then if that's the case I don't take it seriously for a moment so yeah the that was not great either what I was enjoying where the parallels between this episode and the recent episodes with bat woman and Lucifer. Orange were happening this week as you're watching. They were several Yes like Oh. It's the same thing like that. We're doing streaming Talk with anyways. Yeah so I but I I do like what we get with the sisters. Finally they know that she knows that they know very all of that with Mary's out of the way and just just just pair up a luke with Mary have them be like buddies hanging out helping out. You know an on team bat. And and that's that's just a much more entertaining dynamic We'll see what they do. I honestly didn't like the difficulty to sit. Make it like Lucius died specifically 'cause they mentioned Luke and that's why he charged. Don't need to do all of that you don't it's your Haradh even for like a superhero so it's too overall. Yeah speaking of over on the flash. We had liberation and there are some stuff here that I like in that mix and there's some stuff that is very stupid. Told me about the stupid stuff. Ok Seles should've known immediately immediately. The fact that they I was like Oh is she been. She's been replaced too. And that's why they're slow playing this. Oh no no. She just can read emotions Can't tell the difference between the human and the construct with some connection to the human. But an overriding need to obey. Something else's will like yeah. That was very stupid. Yes no no it really was. It was really frustrating. The kind of soup shoddy way that they're using sauce powers and I was just Celeste l'asile issue again. Yes sorry that's on male cat Seattle okay. You're right yeah yeah so. It's really slipshod with how they do that and I was. I was frustrated by that as well. So yeah sorry so yeah so the flip side of that for me is that. I really liked how they sort of slow played like berries whole kind of breakdown about it. However of like making him seem off kilter and obsessive about it in a way that made him feel like the bad guy even before they do the little switcheroo with the device. I think that the ways in which they like play him with sealed with Nash. Make that more interesting but also feels too contrived because now we have Caitlyn sick the end Cisco and Disney dealing with that because we need we need all the science people out of the way So that we don't give away the game too quickly here. And so that SORTA BACK BENDING TO GET. What they want done feels really bad. But I still like like Greg. Cousins performance in those sequences is really good. I think I really can't patent in Kansas Patents. Been so good this season but she's really good at this episode on both levels of the province that she's doing here She's just really really God. That whole scene with her with what work was really really good. I was very dismayed when he came back when he was gone. We don't have to deal with him anymore. Yeah but the ways in the Wayne wish that they needed him to make her whole again like even McCullough holy. I thought was like I'll that's kind of neat though. I like how they're doing all the mirror powers because as someone who really likes mirror master is like just a power set. What they're doing the season with that character in with the concept I think is working really. Well that whole thing with the mirrors falling stabbings stuff. It was really good but also just stab him. Yeah you WanNa you WanNa you know you wanted to like just really just kind of you. WanNa make it cool working tate and just thinking of like it's just GonNa make such a mess is GonNa make a mess. But they don't have to grill yeah Okay over the good fight we have the gang gets call from HR which is which is fine. We get some delightful guest cast. I wanted to visibly mention Andrian of innovative who courses traffic on gyda virgin or was designated. Virgin I hope that we're going to get more for the season but I kind of think we aren't and it's a shame because they gave her nothing to do like even she's on the stand twice in her episodes and she says the exact same because they asked the same questions she says the exact same thing at least like give her anything to see. 'cause now she's an established character. They're not going to get a different. She's not going to get different character. She can play in this universe. And it's a shame in Israel shame And I do think this is probably. We're going to see her. Because of the memos six six hundred steps really taking off in this episode Which show so weird but I think that I think that the whole thing with her character's very much done because it's the inciting incident and it's a real shame because she's really good at obviously But I I'll be really curious if she remains a through. I'll be surprised if she remains through that kind of propels. Any of this forward because it gives them a good pro bono fighting for the little person narrative to run against this whole the rich. Have this weird memo. That influences the judicial system federal level Which yes obviously. But also I think that tracking that will give them something. New grounded but also. The fight doesn't do grounded So I'll be curious to see what they managed to if they manage to weave anything going forward mostly. I was just delighted by how confused Louis Canning seemed because he never get to see Louis Canning confused by something and he seems Kerr Flint and I like that Watching him just go. I don't have a docket number because the case doesn't exist but also I was here for that case that existed but I don't I can't prove it anymore and it's such a camping trip for him because that's the kind of reality is Nile. Stuff he used to do all the time on Good wife so yeah How did you feel about like the ramping up of? And how did you feel about the larger reparations conversation that we wanted to have I think that the I enjoyed that part of the episode and I enjoyed how I particularly enjoyed the resolution of never mind by Which does feel very appropriate such a frank and EMC thing though. Yeah Yeah that feels right. It's like let's start a Hornet's nest and then decide. Oh this thing that you told us that we didn't want because you didn't think we were wanted honest answers and you said you wanted us dancers and so then we Over this thing and start a difficult conversation you said you wanted and neglect. But it's an se by Yeah that fell just right. I thought the way that they handled especially the partners reactions to everything Works Nicely and adding David. Lead to that kind of that kind of scene is just really nice but at the same time like his whole about how it sooner. Cut My own risks than go to. Hr voluntarily is just pure. David Lee had no he now no He just be so upset. What did you think about that? And then you works relatively well and I liked the fact that they allowed a lot of cross talk and like conversation kind of occur both on a political level also on a bike. This is not something that we should be expected to do at work. Which I thought was a really important thing to like. Push to the forefront of that kind of unduly expectations that was being put upon them to do this Labor for the DNC which has his own like whole other thing that feeds into that narrative. If you're tapped into water political structure about the Democratic Party Center Center and I think that all of that when you have that context and then it gets baked in to the fact that they're asking black people at their jobs to take time away from their jobs to solve this problem more them. I think it's really really good and really really interesting So I really appreciate like how that was woven throughout so it worked really well for me as did Marissa yelling at Frank As soon as he came out of the elevator. We're never going to get Alan Cumming. Come back so we're just GONNA have Sarah Steele Yell at this man every time. I'm very here for it as speaking of Sarah Style. Would you think of Caleb? It's such a good meat. Cute peeling Rudy Bega you ever Tobago Stupid I I'm very here for that character and I'm very here for Hugh Dancy as you know. I love him. He's he's my delicate little lamb however sale this that character feels like it's has been written for someone significantly younger than dancy and I'm especially that whole give me on. A second chair does not feel like something that should be coming from. That character was an age level. He's he's forty four Ryan and that's that's a little almost like started late. Which is a possibility but I did. The characters thirty eight. Yes he was in the army. Ride okay so that might work a little better for me. That's a good detail that the heck kinda slipped my mind because he was like a sergeant right so that helps a little bit with that. Concept of like maybe. He went through law school after being after finishing his stint So maybe that's how that works. Yeah that that helps me a little bit. Thank you for reminding me about that because just the whole vibe of that character's like haven't you been second tier a bunch on a bunch of things. Yeah exactly lead chair on some things. Yeah so it feels really weird but then again like Maya was never anything from like three years. So who the hell knows So but I. I'm interested to see what that character does going forward because in this part it's you're trying to pick out what's the scheme and what's not. So how did you feel about him? Oh I very much enjoy him. If anybody who is on Hannibal they WANNA bring on. You know we're gonNA enjoy such a talented but Yeah I'm intrigued and I like that we. I think that they've really established. That can trust Marissa's judgement on people so that feels really secure. So that's you know assuming we can. That's a much more interesting way to go with this character than what we're getting so far and Yeah it's the Shannon's at the firm are more interesting now that they have you know. Lauren finch Sorry learned for I And the fact that we've only met there so far is i. I assume that will stay the same. And then they'll be like a reveal of Laurie are. We will never meet Laurie and is going to be interesting. So so adding that extra turns out to be. Will Garner. He faked his death and changed his name. Spice Oh don't do that to me. I would be so sad in also happy. Also this is stupid but also yeah anyways It was It's it's fun I'm enjoying it. It's the freshest the inter-firm politics have been in a while. Yeah I agree. I agree and I think that the only other thing I'll say is that I really appreciated the not being. Cbs All access with Diane being. Like I never used to swear now I do because I find it effective. Yeah that was very very good. It's very good. Okay let's go to reality and I that we have top chef all stars. La Pitch Perfect. What did you think of the restaurant? Worst pitches and of course most importantly Danny trail and tacos. So I love this idea of them having to catch a restaurant like I think it's a really fun twist on restaurant wars and more importantly than anything. I what I also really like about. It is the doesn't allow the person who did the concept hide in the judging because yeah executive chefs often like you can. You're it's either executive chef or front of House gets eliminated on this challenge. But now you've got like an executive chef that has the vision type of thing and that kind of skills back like the threat that front of House faces which I'm really curious about. Who's going to get more? He gets picked for front of House for one of the restaurants based on the Promo and Karen Karen does for the other one. Okay Yeah That's right that's right so I think that gives like a little bit of covered in front of House which is good. I think but I'm really curious about what this means for. Like the other folks in the challenges while because it just puts a lot of the weight onto the executive chef this time around. So I'm really curious about that. And how that's going to play into the larger however shot were functions. The only other thing that I really have about the pitches is. I'm really annoyed by the fact that no one bothered to call the casual racism of Milwaukee's whole concept of a donkey dragon. Oh you mean those to stereo typical associated animals with those cultures. No ONE'S GONNA. No one's going to deal with this. No no no nothing. Nothing we're just GONNA talk about how it kind of works and slick okay. Well I'm glad it didn't get picked because I didn't want to live with that for another episode the tacos and Trae hose stuff was just he was so so happy about his whole like mmashebi vast and he could not stop sharing off? And you're so good pure but also making them like Cup with machetes. Great and I really really appreciated Melissa's whole I just want to work with these all the time. Now it makes me feel like I'm just first of all not the right weapon second kind of racist and see but yes so all in all I think really good sort of episode and I really appreciate it again. That twist restaurant wars even. I'm very sad about the elimination. Because Eric's perspective is something that needs to be seen and push my tape it. He had a bad week this week. How did you feel about Yeah I liked a lot of it. I liked the the thing that sets up with the pitching. Is that if if it goes as expected. One of their strongest chefs will be going home. Yes because one of the restaurants is GonNa win. One of the restaurants is GONNA LOSE IN PROBABLY EXECUTIVE CHEF IS GONNA lose is going to go home. That's what usually happens at least and there's no place to hide like you said because it's your concept right so that means either Kevin or Who's either one Gregory Gregory Right? Yeah Kevin Gregory are going to be on the chopping block and they. They are two of the three people have one challenges along with Melissa Or something like that race. This those three have won the majority of the challenge so Yeah it's That's setting up an interesting restaurant wars and the fact that they have more time to think about it can only help restaurant where I would think but it based on the Promo Shicho. Yeah so that'll be interesting. I'm the other thing is that is that I I need I need Malarkey to go but I also appreciate his value as a villain but also just leaf and The Sh- need her to do better or leave for Leeann. Because I really likely and yes and because I like her so much. I need to do better into validate her being there. As I am confident she does deserve to be there. She has done really well in a few of these challenges but she has also been in the bottom a lot and for her to keep scraping by. It doesn't help her. It doesn't help her. In the eyes of the audience it doesn't help her standing on the fan base So I'm really hoping she either starts shining or gets eliminated. And it's time to go 'cause there are. I can think of several chefs who I think have in general done much better this season who are eliminated because she's been kind of safe or in the bottom but not the worst several times. Yeah I mean this this week. Everyone lucked out because well Stephanie. Lockout because she had immunity. Stephanie was going to go. Yeah but also as Stephanie pointing out. I'm not a restaurant her. I don't WanNa do any of this. Yeah I'd like being a private chef. Yeah well when you're talking about how many Russians these people have opened like markey's opened nineteen restaurants like okay. How many Russians still open because opening restaurants is in? I mean I know. That's a huge feet. Don't get me right understand. What a significant thing. That is and he sells them off to. He opens them for other people. Who RUN THEM? Like I get that but also it is one thing to open a restaurant. It is something else entirely to make a successful restaurant so I would have liked a little bit more of that sense of the numbers. But they weren't going to talk about that because it's such a difficult industry and because what Alex and five percent of all restaurants closed for many many reasons. That doesn't mean that restaurant. I think it's like closer to like eighty or ninety. Yeah doesn't mean the food wasn't good doesn't mean the concept wasn't good Lots of different. There's so many different factors in there but if one of them has opened three restaurants and they're all successful that is more meaningful to me than someone who is open ten restaurants and who knows how many are still running. You know So Yeah I was enjoying Stephanie's energy through this like I'm surrounded by restaurant. How will usually a personal chef competition like private chef? You know task because I'm a sleigh that but you know so I was telling them that little bit of it and I'm glad that she got immunity. The last final immunity. Yes I do and and yeah be. Hopefully the end is able to step things up because I really like every like Williams. She's got replaced me so we'll say who are. Are you still rooting in Are you up on less chance kitchen or no? I am unless I haven't seen the Eric so because on demand is terrible off so I haven't seen that so but I watched like the two parter that they did last week. So I'm up on that front so I know that Niimi it's navy. Yeah right now. Yeah so the yeah I want. I won't say who wins between Eric or any but I will say that I would be fine with either of them making it back in two so I'm hopeful anything else. Oh leave it to Bryan Taj to make the most elegant looking Taco just like I mean it's not a Taco buddy. Yeah Yeah Refund okay. So we're here. Had their second of set twin falls Idaho and I just wanted to mention it because I I watched it again and it was just really lovely. Having the the episodes focus on me all of these people but particularly brandon and his wife Michaela their wedding. It was just absolutely gorgeous and And moving and inspiring Shangila crushed it I and then this lake. We just need to protect GRANDPA Larry with with everything with everything. We have Just amazing he's GRANDPA Anti That which is one of the other corners of the episode. Which I know you haven't watched all but One of the Queen's they have bobby going to mentoring Bob is entering local queens and one of them lived with his GRANDPA Larry who is amazing and fully supports his grandson's drag career and everything. And it's just absolutely lovely and wonderful in his like they're the drag show cheering and everything and like you know. It's just a lovely thing to see. That's it among all the very understandable stereotypes that are and things that are absolutely like shown in this episode to be accurate representations of what some of these people's lives are like there is also a or octogenarian sitting in his armchair giving advice on whether whether you need to go take another look at that hairline before you know like us. It's lovely Bob Is particularly open with the camera in a way. That's that's that's lovely to see so yeah. There's a lot of good stuff in this week's episode and next week it's really good to see it We also had the first episode of repulsed regular celebrity edition which sees three Queens making over celebrities and when I say going over celebrities these are people. Were like what the secret is that the real celebrities are the drag queens because it is This was trixie and Bob. The Drag Queen and Monet Exchange are the Queens who were so big name very popular queens and then they also they made over Nico Torello from a younger and Georgian Connor who puts me on Riverdale and then a stand up comedian who I am not familiar whose name I will try to look up. Aren't celebrities well? They are the level of celebrity. You'RE GONNA get to come for a day to do this thing without paying lots of money so I mean what do you expect They have I expect you to rename your show. They had to do the sniffing and they did a pretty good job. All things considered a Jermaine. Fowler is the standard comedian. They did Lucille Ball Nigga twitter. Lucille Ball and did not have the jokes but did have the physical comedy. He did a good job with the faces. And like the handle. I Love Lucy. Gags were on point. There was some stuff there Conor did Chrissy Teigen. Okay and for again. For for nine comedian did a good job. And then GE- Jermaine Fowler. Did Kevin Hart so Kevin Hart doing drag as a apology for his previous Q. Statements. Okay so that basically they're like. Oh this guy has a good Kevin Hart but in the other character who was looking at was Whoopie Goldberg. And that was such a crash and burn season eleven. Let's stay. Let's get excuse to point your Kevin Hart impression that you've done forever and your professional comedian. So you're going to be really good at that So so yes. And then they had to do lip sync and right and And the person who won their charity at thirty grand the other two at ten grand. Okay I'M I. It's fibrosis Canada for rain and further trencher center so like some very lovely. Very worthy charities. it was fun desert. Need the time it gets. No but am I gonNa Watch the next one which includes Dustin Milligan as one of the people? I'm I'm GonNa Watch Ted made over and the There's a future episode. Apparently has been esab Williams. Like there's that's a celebrity. That was a celebrity. The next episode is doing recoil And the the drag mentors are illicit Edwards Asia. O'hara Trinity Title. Go yet there's like they're bringing the star power with the drivers run. I so those. Those are the celebrities. Everyone is correct. Yeah yeah so it was fun. I enjoyed it but like you know definitely when I'm looking at things to to watch because I've got stuff. The fact that this on a Friday is very helpful because when I am out of things on Saturday I can watch them our last show for. Are we going to be here is drag race? And they had choices. Twenty twenty What did you think of their political challenge? I mean where to start with this episode. Kate like I don't know where to start I mean do we want to start with the gold. Luma bit all do okay. How would we says so listeners? There are rumors that people are waiting for gold. Jeff Goldblum to get me to and they're surprised it hasn't happened yet and that's all I know and I don't know any more specific than that. Which is why didn't get into anything like Adami right up but it makes this watching this episode very uncomfortable for me. 'cause I don't think it's charming when he's like no. Tell me about how you. Tuck your penis. I want to know now. You don't want to tell me you're trying to move the conversation on but I'm going to keep coming back around to it Yeah I've not charmed by the way that America seemingly is so that May this episode less fun but you know who is wonderful. Is Rachel Bloom? Who is absolutely in her element here and one of their best. Guess Judges Taylor. Absolutely one of the Best guess judges. She understands the show. She understands the role of the guest. Judge really well but also like all the stuff. That's Michelle That they do remotely is just gold. really really good on the couple of stuff is really really rough from like. Did you not do any research before you to come on the show clearly clearly none yet quarterly none And so there's there's the whole thing about like Islam comes up questioning Jackie. Yes like yeah. It's not great but you know what else Christianity Secular Democracy the United States. Yeah there's no question when Roo starts saying preach can the church a man. Don't you're not stopping to say well but also molestation of children may be now shouldn't be you know. Yeah exactly so. There's all this stuff and it's just like this is not good unknowns like no one's engaging with this in a way that stops it in a way that I feel like is productive. So that's that all of that really kind of like gets the episode. Really kind of squishy Which is a shame. Because I think it's overall pretty strong episode The debate stuff I think is a much stronger. Like Sach game for everyone Because they didn't have to pretend to be celebrities that could just kind of pretend to be either restock politician or be themselves running for president as crystal did which was the correct choice to make Even though I kept waiting for. Gt to reveal herself being the robot again. Yeah that's what I thought was happening. And then headed and that would have been better than what they did because what they did just like. They got dinged for was. You didn't have anything to strike know anything about politics you need to. You need to pivot somewhere. You'd need to crystal did basically which is do your do your thing about drag as a platform So I really enjoyed like all of that and ritual so good at this in terms of like giving them stuff to feed off of and then also like responding to them so. I really really enjoyed that as well. Runway look I thought were really really strong. Everything like those look a lot. I really like Jackie's look. Obviously it was really really good I I'd like to Gbd's look like a construction level of like costume and everything. It looked really really good but then I also like exactly the same as Rachel. Bloom of like. Why are you in a red coat for Stars and Stripes? That's not the correct thing but also in my head when Gd the crossover of I'm giving you quaker oats religious. I just went yes. Quakers those noted conscientious objectors pacifists. When you're in military garb on that doesn't make any sense either Which all which is really like drag should not have so. I think that generally it's really funny. It's really good episode. Remind me what the hell the mini challenge was. It was the cats thing which is funny which was just weird has was very here for it. It was a much better sponsored. Many challenges than the your. Ud Box thing that they did like last week. And it's just weird. It was weird and I really liked it issued. Do more of that really weird stuff. 'cause it was it was weird and he was good. Release the butthole edition Yeah the I really liked crystals mad cat. Hungry cat Legally distinct from angry cat. And sorry. Why grumpy cat thank you? And then there was the obviously it was really good But really I think they were all really fun so game really going for it and very distinct and also can we talk about how like. Obviously it's quick drag and they all look amazing but a bunch of them. Look really good for fifteen minutes. Are you kidding me right now? It's it was just really impressive. How good they are. Quick drags looked in that. I really kind of stunned and we gotta talk about that lip sake because it was really good. That was really good lifting. That's two weeks in a row that they played it. Yeah I was really really happy with that lip sync like it. Just there is plenty of like performance like stuff there that I thought everyone did really really well with out what it's also like. They gave them a good song to deal to like. Firework is a good lip. Sing Song and also like I was like they're gonNA do Rupaul. Recalls America are out no American. Oh good were not. We're into fireworks. Excellent great but no. It's really good and I was also really happy that those stars came on because like widows are not going to be able to move and Jackie's got all this mobility because of the outfit is for the good. I don't appreciate the show kind of trying to get a reaction to continue cutting to crying. Jeff Goldblum who has like a fair amount of family baggage because of this kind of what is further went through. But I think that there's just reared stuff still so it's like you don't need to keep coming to him for this. It's good on its own. I don't think for me. They weren't trying to. I think they were just showing because that's unusual for is unusual for a judge to have that strong of a reaction to be emotional from the judging. Especially because the the your your core judge has seen so much out it takes a lot so that was a bit like the normal reaction. Sure and that's fair but but but I hear you I hear you. Well what would you be I'm going to give to both one day at a time. And what we do in the shadows both have really really good episodes that I really deeply enjoyed on this week so I'm going to both of them because I'm not going to be able to do for one at a time anytime soon right you this week. Well I'M GONNA shut out to lessons of tomorrow. 'cause I really enjoyed a lot of that So silly so ridiculous but giving into this thing. Yeah that's the best thing I watched this week of then. Neltza break and come back to spotlight season. Four of better things. We'll be right back after this. I want to create a dating profile for home. Fumble or rioters. No thank you. I'm in a relationship and his name. Is You guys and this lady do? How bad is it for the environment? Really bad mouth is car doesn't fit all of us. I know loof. We look alike are the theme. My God mom. Time is your friend. And we're all here for you and you'll find love again culturally. Whatever long not he needs to do something for you. We have to diaper bag. I can't hold it Ooh crawdads nest. See what's on the other side Graham? Thank you Dave told just saying. Do by BED MOM. You know you got likes really let me see we're back at the Taylor Everybody Knoll Kirk Patrick. And that of course is the trailer better things season four which wrapped up this week and has has been renewed for season five yet Do not yet. I don't think it is. I didn't think so I hadn't heard that But We're big fans of that are thanks here at the television though. I've gotten behind on it It was on your top twenty high in your top twenty for last jar and It's been a show that's been every time I catch up with it. It's I'm just rewarded by the experience because it's such a well-crafted in an thoughtful show in this season for me was no exception. I I don't always love some of the gender centralism. The that Adlon seems to be drawn to around like definitions of femininity in the female experience. the the the woman's experience. I should say around periods menopause and then some of that Which was a significant part of a few episodes this season? But you know everyone's got a different experience in the how they identify with their gender and all of that so with that caveat. I really loved everything I saw this season. Yeah I think better things the stolen like the best things that's on TV right now. I'm really consistently From how it's written from how it staged to the fact that this is really like even on like a network succumb one of the few shows it's willing to just kind of be deeply episodic on the season in particular is there is no line. This season really feels like in terms of plot. Just the there's relationship three lines but it doesn't feel as deeply serious it. Let me do not Platt Steph. It's not caught stuff. Yeah and yeah. There's also not that element of I think that it's more like this season more than anything. Sort of almost feels like call backs type of things too What's his name in? New Orleans keeps running into Medical one of her exes. I don't even think they say his name in the episode But like that or like all the simple sander that happens in particularly in bats INARA which is just like goals His his name is Sam's ex that IMDB credit for Mexico better than SAM's ex. Yeah that's just fantastic. I love that so much okay. That's just beautiful. So yes those all the stuff like you'd kind of need that history but even if you don't have it I think that all generally rings really true and really honest for kind of like you know what that situation is. You know what situations are. Even if you haven't seen anything from Sam's ex before I think it just kinda comes through really nicely. Yes no I agree the That's interesting because for me I think for me. There's always some level of the through line better things every season. The the officers are very stand alone and and in in various seasons they've had more or less like a seasoned building arc kind of thing And I I feel like Adlon has really settled away from that. In general if feels much more like life in that that these various episodes are happening in various parts of their experience are happening and they find themselves in recurring patterns and drawn towards certain issues that they're dealing with or things that have been undermined and this season. That's very much Sam's relationship with Zander. The the you know her children's father and there's like the by the that's where she's at. It's very much defined by where she's at in her process of dealing with her anger leading. Beco- that that's the focus of for me the Ark of the season. And there's some of that with the girls relationships with their father as well But I mean it's just the way that that culminates in that very awkward and delightful and again deliciously the right amount of petty Check for him is is very nice. I I believe that Sam believes when she says that it's a clean slate and she's letting all of this go and I also don't think she is but I think that she thinks she and that's what matters. Yeah absolutely agree. I do think that she thinks she's over. It and the degree to which the bad is happening will have to wait for like a fifth season to find out I do think that one of the best things that happens about Zander's that there is significantly less like drama around him ceramics coming from the daughters which is always like one of the stickiest points for me like it sometimes better. Thanks makes me deeply deeply uncomfortable and so having that little bit of a distance apart from Frankie wanting zander there I think it was like the accent of it. Like aside from the whole will. Maybe I'll just go live with my dad that Max does that really just harrowing and then really funny Sequence about the black dress the laundry and then they're calling each other and seaward back and forth that is both horrifying and then you can see. Adlon start to crack. They're just they're just a little too. Deep in the weirdness of that moment Finding the comedy in it and I just it just like I think that the fact that at the very least Max's seemed to kind of come to terms with Zander and Duke Extent is like moving on in her own very special way. But Frankie needed that little bit of closure. I think that she gets without scenario and I was very happy about that. Let's talk a bit about. Betsy are because it just so good. It's easily one of the best things I've watched this year. It is just absolutely charming. And and fun and Awkward Terrible when Zander decides to do exactly what what is teased and make it all about him and then manages to wishes daughter. Happy sweet at her Fifteenth Birthday Party. It is so just chef's kiss of Yup. You're getting terrible because almost makes you like connected him a little bit not even like him not forgive him but just like connect a little bit with him and then he does then he goes up to the Mike is like what are you doing. Why are you doing and then just yeah and I really really enjoyed like pretty much that whole episode but the decision to have him really be that guy into fully commit to it Yes Sammy's to let this stuff. Go and yes. It's hurting her. Holding onto this. As they explore through several episodes in the season most notably father's Day. But really he is that he is that Ping Terrible It's great it's great. No it's so so good like I was really happy when it turned out to also be like a keen error because like I told you at the beginning of the season Frankie pitch this idea I was like what no you can't do this. Culturally inappropriate and then it was like no no. We're GONNA do an actual Kingston era in addition to abouts. Mitzvah is just all thank goodness Paul. Thank goodness is very worried about what's going to happen here and I'm very glad that this this zagged on me because I was just like no. You know the foster families just to do EHRE. They're far too white Jewish to Kenya. So yeah I thought it was a fun I thought I thought they blended it well and really who cares what a white girl thinks about you. Know another like about about I'm not the one to say whether it's appropriate or not But as far as a blending what Sam wants and what frank you aunts and trying to be more aware in fitting it with these characters. I thought they did a good job. And then just everything else that happens. Zander that up so from a baiters rich just being like I've been. I've been your daughter's emergency contact for the past ten years. I chaperone them on field trips. People tell me what how great my daughters are and then I have to go. Oh I wish they were my daughters and it's just like all just last stab the knife twists and then Greg Combs Jeff. Doing that whole thing about like you need to apologize. People hate me less because I've apologized. Maybe they should hate you. Maybe they'd hit you less if you apologize but I don't have anything to apologize for. Well okay then maybe you though because you got your daughter's birthday rock I feel like you have things to apologize for. Sander and like dig kudos to Matthew A who plays Zander for just like being a kind of hit that you still kind of hate which is a really difficult thing I think to hit. Because you don't want to veer him too far until Iraq feeling pity for him because he's just kind of low key awful So being able to find that perfect middle ground and then having like the kind of Weird Cup of inviting him to dinner in the finale and the none of the daughters being there having gone to the beach for like their own time together. Chef's kiss good and just the you talk about the check. The right level of petty them ghosting him to go to. The beach is the right level of petty. I love when rich has to explain to zander yet. No this is a test right. Obviously they are testing to see whether you are going to come back again or just. Abandon them yet again yet. Like it's very clear what's happening. And he had. That hadn't occurred to him Brandt because she's such a terrible terrible human being Which like one of the things that you want to ask you about. Regarding finale is do you think that Duke was talking to her future self. I don't think so because of the styling sure that can see that but I mean I think it's it's possible and that's neat that potential. I'm very interested but also with this show. I don't know whether I should just enjoy or be troubled by CHIRP. What's happening with Duke? Because Duke always been like the spiritualist of their of the family like she's very been very in contact with the spirits and I don't know how much of that like is the magical realism that kind of weaves in and out of better things sometimes even though the season is much more grounded than I think them past seasons have been but medical realism. I love it. And if they're gonNA like if there is another season if they're going to be like offering tumor right you know. That's that's just the little concern in the back of my head shuttle. I wanted to just be magical realism and to love it. I think the performance especially which She's like troubled but also like trying to not let it bother her in the exchange is just so wonderful. I really liked the you know like that. Momento alive and it did occur to me could be. Is that her future self? That could be But I think the styling is too old which is why pointed to me to ghost from even earlier. Not even like recent but even like old earlier time period. But no I I really enjoy all of these these characters in these performances like the you know I love a lip sync to the typewriter concerto. I forget the exact title of it. Like elegant elegant was frankie crush. That I love the one spot where she misses her entrance. Obviously you know by the end. You realize very intentionally. Because she's being recorded at a performance It's just so charming. I love that piece by piece. Is just delightful. And I don't think I've ever gotten a chance to play but I would so relish the chance to play that one I enjoy all of these characters and I feel very protective towards them. So yeah I as long as everything's okay with Duke. I love what they give. They give for this season and the fact that she by the end of the season she is finally Lake Past. The you were my last nights one stage and into full teenage dealing with stuff. Mom You don't understand you know It's it's it's a fun journey to watch. It is and like it's one of the reasons why like I kinda WANNA see some five. Because they're like setting this OPCO like the that kind of empty nest. That's like on the verge of happening with even though they make a really solid incorrect joke about Max moving in and then moving out and moving in moving out. Because that's exactly what's going to happen and it's going to be fabulous but it's exactly what's going on so. I'm so I'm really interested in watching that but I'm also just been like four seasons. I really feel like we've watched like Olivia Edwards and Hannah Allgood in particular who played luke and Franky respectively Just kind of grow up on the screen and groping these characters that it's just been really really compelling to watch that and also. I'm just like all good just needs to get all the work when better things is not filming because she's really really good that free the Suits I mean just. Yeah yes like unaccustomed level for character really good but Allah goods just very in it just like bodily just like you can feel levels will comfort which is really important and like you know. When she's she's making time with a pretty young lady right. We don't know exactly what's going on but I'm like okay. Creepy adults viewing teenage characters. But also get a girl exactly. So what else about this season stood out to you? Were there any particular episodes that you thought really? Kinda work for you or did work. Well you know I have to shout out New Orleans because I'm a big of Randy Rainbow so I was very glad to see him pop up so that was just fun. 'cause I always enjoy him so it's nice to see him getting a a cable. Tv paycheck but one of my favorite things about this season is the increased prevalence of rich. Dietrich raiders always been great on the show. But he's a real like core to this season in a way that he's been much more of a supporting player in previous seasons and I've just very here for it. Jad No his whole thing the Season Premiere just gutted me like everything in steady rain that they do with him following his break up is just all and then do coming in and giving him that little bit of advice. I'll mouth of Babes Kate from the mouth of Babes of so that was really really great and I just really liked it No I'm glad you mentioned him because he's really really good in this season Even if I feel like he he fades out like a little bit in the middle of the run but he comes back so hard in those last two episodes that it's just like this is like easily some of the best best Adlon give spader like some of the best work of his career and to do. And I'm including Batman Braver and the bold voice in the Batman in that because Dietrich Baiters hilarious on that show well. He's he's always good with comedy. I mean he's great on veep Not just just got recent things apart. Because he's but he's been working in around forever but it's it's nice to see more shading nuance and more care towards the salmon-rich relationship is just such a a lived in real thing. When when he has that moment with Zander you feel so incredibly earned and just like almost gleeful but so angry and bitter at the same time in resentful but also justified and like there's a lot going on and I I really appreciate the season leaving the space and time for that I also liked Some of the you know the different changes we get with the the other friends who've been around I liked the also. We got some good stuff but it it's easy for. I think Sanjay relationship with Phil to overtake show and become the central thread. Which it when it does. It does a really good job of that but I it was nice to get some variety this season with that. Yeah I really appreciated that because every time sills on screen. I always get kinda worried. Yeah Right I've always learned which I don't want to be but I ended up being any way mom just from a whatever it's going to come out sales now. It's like when they go to the Persian restaurant with Franken Ono. Just make her be quiet. Be Quiet quiet maker be quiet make her be quiet to just like concerns about her rolexes mental health which they've been like very slowly layer again since like the start of the show and that's why we're so worried because that's knows laid the groundwork that Wednesday pull that you know that piece out of the Jenga Tower it's GonNa feel appropriate in earned and it's going to be devastating or which just fits into everything that that the season and Sam is saying about our expectations for women and women of a certain age and we're just they're they're just there to to be sick or die in create emotions It's US falling into that exact trap so I actually. Kinda don't think we're going to have to worry about Phil but I still do. Because I've been trained by so many so many other shows now. Let's super-duper her. I always enjoy Kevin. Pollock is in as as Marion. And so. There's there's a lot of good yeah. A lot of good family dynamics the season did you have any Any favorite episodes or other performance in that smacks trying to hook up with her cousin. She's not not yeah cousins. Also not not. Yeah Yeah Okay could. That wasn't just me like my partner came in and like sauce some of these episodes while I was catching up on them and she was just like they are then related and I just went yes. They are related shoes like they need to shut that down. Yes so let's see I enjoyed sort of the king of the hill. Not King of the hill reboot Thing that happened in also Sam not giving her original roll back was really terrible and but also just like pure sort of Which pure sort of showbiz nonsense So that I liked I also sort of enjoyed Of seven which is high man by man Which Sam just gets really high on medical cannabis for her hand pain which is like for me like the only plot consistency in this season. Because she's got that brace on the entire time But she ends up smoking too much and it's really delightful because she has to get Max to leave work but I think there's two things in that episode and there was Frankie centric. I is that Frankie does the pillow thing with Sam to reveal that she lost her virginity just because she wanted to get out of the way and that scene is really just kind of intense and moving but in a way. That's not the normal sort of intense of the frankie scenes can be But then Frankie. Make Sam peppermint ice cream like homemade peppermint ice cream. Because they don't have any in because Sam so high she wants it. But Frankie basically like gets vanilla. Ice Cream starts like breaking down peppermint some chocolate and making it for Sam and it's just so good and warm and one of the things that kind of keeps coming around in the season is which Mojo wasted in which. Frankie is kind of taking on some of Sam's things like making food and it's just like it just breaks my heart a little bit the Schubert's my heart. Kate yet it definitely does the Yeah Yeah it's just been it's a pleasure to watch and it's as as Adlon has taken over the show beyond Beyond just like there was A. There's a lot of collaboration between her and her writing. Wrote Writer's room she directs all the episodes. Um In in a season two three and four. But like it's just gotten stronger and stronger as it's gone along and it's always a pleasure to to live in this world and she's such a interesting and complicated central figure. I love that the show and the character has such a distinct point of view. And they invite you to disagree with them yes and like which I think is great and as for example as someone with wonderful parents. Not every mother is a single mother. That's just not true. But that's the perspective of the show and that's the perspective of the characters and their have interesting things to say about that and they're exploring that and you know I totally buy for them for the these characters and you know and I. I love that it's a show that wants to present interesting characters and crack them open and then have that be their starting point. Go from there. Yeah and I think even to that extent like on what you open up like the sort of gender essentials of the shows for Ben's into sometimes secretly like with father's day here but they also like they have another like companion episode in which will call it season three which I think is. Show me the magic that the show I feel like feels comfortable enough for you to disagree and argue with them While not feeling defensive about it but it does I think your point about the centralism is correct Because it is very sort of specific even down to the film that she's making that worst yet clips out throughout the season than a little bit at right at the end with a talk show appearance or something that I think was also the wise choice not to actually let us experience that Because I didn't want to go through that That is Kinda thorny for the show with the show also can't drift away from too heavily with this group of people but I feel like Frankie represents a point in which that could be fractured in some way And I want the show to lean in on that more. Hopefully as they afford the I don't want to thank you. Just become a token but last season particular did a lot of work in dealing with the Frankie's overall and tragedy and her gender identity. So yeah yeah definitely and they you know like we've Oh said it takes a lot of confidence for you to be comfortable for a show to be comfortable having these conversations and not like you said not feeling defensive about them and I. That's that's what I see in better things so it's another really strong season I have. It's all on who Lou Lou. But you don't have a you know on-demand or or or whatever you can find it all there and they. I didn't panel. Adlon just put out like yesterday at her tweet of or list of her six favorite episodes or whatever and they are some yeah. They've been doing some marathons and stuff on fx so yeah check it out if you have somehow missed the best. And there's there's a lot to really enjoy yeah. Don't look the first few seasons being largely written or current by Louis. Ck Turn you off of the show. Yeah Yeah and if it's really a sticking point for you I understand Stasi's you still listed as like co-creator because they can't get rid of his. He's not a producer anymore. He's not involved more from season three on. He was not involved in the show at all. So yeah that can you can start there. Well the reservoir conversation on better things season four if you show notes here at the end of the episode you can find a post for the steps over the telephone org raking leaves the comments unless know what you thought of the weeks. You can like our page on facebook and started a conversation there you can email US television. Mel Dot Com. And we'RE UP ON APPLE PODCAST CHAPTERED FEED-IN MP. Three on chaptered feed as well as institure. We appreciate ratings interviews either place and of course we are both on twitter. I am at the television. All you are no K. Thanks which for great we kate. Thank you and I think everyone for listening. We'll be back next week. Another episode of the televise.