6 Episode results for "Louden Swain"
5-20-2020 Lance with Matthew Modine
"Six thirty, eight seven hundred wwl wbz sports talk Arnelle carriers for Scott presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister tomorrow night. Is that premiere of the movie chance? At Amelia starlight drive in it's a locally produced and Phil Movie About Baseball and teenage relationships and the effects of teen suicide. It's based on the true story of Chance Smith. Who played for Flash Baseball in Brown County The film was to open in thirty nine theaters in April, but the pandemic forced a change in plans showtime tomorrow night. And Sunday is eight forty five. Our next guest stars as the Youth Baseball Coach in the film. He's played roles in full metal jacket. Stranger things weeds Birdie any given Sunday I'm a huge fan of his nineteen eighty-five Movie Vision Quest, and his role as high school wrestler Louden Swain. It is an honor to welcome in Matthew, Modine Matthew Lance McAlister welcome to sportstalk. Thank you so much for having me on search pleasure to be here. How did you become involved in a project like this? Well, my daily, who runs that flash baseball is white is really good taste and she suggested he hired me moving. And I read the script, and and it was just so terrific. I Love Baseball, and and so really that's all they had to say in the first couple of pages. was that it that it was about baseball and I was I was pretty much in could kick. Give me an opportunity to put put on baseball uniform and go spend some quality time with with young athletes who who always teach me about life. It is a boy. It's A. It's a powerful story powerful message, isn't it? Really is and just say it's based on a true story about the young chance. They grew up there and and and I, I don't know how how to put it in words. You know that you and I did grow up in in a time of texting, and it's one thing for you to say that somebody or you're an idiot and Gonna I'm GonNa Kick Your Butt after school or something, but with texting when you, when you put it in writing and send it to somebody's phone, it has a different impact than than. Than if if you say you know what I mean. You've actually put it in writing, and you send it to your personal device, your phone and and It it it. It carries a greater weight than than the words used to when we were in school so Teen teen suicide is is a real. Problem, and and we all have to do what we can to try to provide opportunity and and resources for young people who find who don't have somebody that can speak to them and help them through a dark period, Matthew. How much time did you spend here shooting the film? I feel like I was I was there for a couple of months, but I think it was. It was probably the only about six weeks of you know a little bit of pre-production you know getting there and getting to know the kid and and kind of you know what I call. Get in baseball shape. getting to know Mike Daily and and his family, and then wrote the screenplay and his wife is in the film does a wonderful job in the film and You know. I like to get there early and kind of soak it up a little bit. You know to for those who haven't seen the trailer. You play the role of chances coach. You alluded to baseball. Are you a big baseball guy? I am I'M A NEW YORK? Yankees Fan, which will probably make a lot of your local? They're upset, but Yeah. Yankees Fan and and I I grew up in Utah. We didn't have a professional baseball teams, so I had to pick a team and I. When I lived in Utah and we moved to San Diego, when I was in junior high school, and I kind of became a padre fan. They had some good ballplayers then and. But Yeah I'm I'm a Yankees Fan. I Love Baseball. I did another baseball movie. That's really good about honest wagner. Yes, played for the Pittsburgh Pirates and It was called the winning teams and was television film and that when I actually got to play baseball I went out and and went. Cal ripken is a friend. And I asked him if I could go play with his farm team for the Orioles called the iron verge and. That was that was a tremendous experience. You know I was telling you off air. I had a chance last. Not An show to talk with Jake hurts men who sophomore at Sycamore High. School plays on the baseball team. He plays twelve year old child in the movie now. He told me tell me. You can confirm this. He said you helped him with acting in. He helped you with baseball true. It certainly did. Special skills, their clash, baseball and You know to get to get the players to stop thinking and and. To react in in a way that it's a longer conversation than we have time for now, but it's a great program and he's come up in that flash baseball system, and so there was some skills that I was unfamiliar with that that he and and and all the other kids taught me. To be. Better Baseball player I have to admit that I in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five I was nineteen years Old and vision quest is one of my favorite movies, and when I saw your name on the on the poster for for this I said man I wonder if we could hook up with him on sports talk. Could you take me back to that experience? What was doing vision quest like for you? Well. I was I was pretty young. I was living in New York City I moved to New York to study acting and. I was I I grew up in a surfer. You know they say Imperial Beach California and when I got to New York, all I wanted was for people to think that I was a new. Yorker, because you're not on the subway and say where you from I'm from here. Where are you from and I just is is the director Harold Becker of vision quests that he I hired you because you still had hey in your hair. And and I was really skinny and he. He said I think you're a good actor, but could you do ten pushups? I might be able to do eleven. And and They sent me to spokane Washington about six weeks early, and we trained and trained train. You know the way wrestling and conditioning running running. all those kids in the movie were pretty much. All of them state champions. And what I learned about that that that experience was anybody who's ever been a grappler knows. That what what you wrestling against yourself? You know you're always. You're always discovering how far you're willing to push yourself and. The extremes that you're willing to go in order to accelerate at this very difficult sport. I just enjoyed that. Michael Jordan documentary The last dance and you know Michael Jordan is extreme example of why those people that that Just, pushed himself to to unbelievable athletic. Prowess I, mean he. Had not seen it, but it started. Documentary really is. Matthew, Modine checking in for just a couple of more minutes tonight on on sportstalk tomorrow night is the premiere of the movie chance at Amelia. starlight drive in film was set to open in April. The pandemic changed the plans on that, so they're putting it on the big screen in the starlight. Drive in Friday. Saturday Sunday eight forty five matthew. You've mentioned so many amazing names in these few minutes I gotta ask you take me back if you could to any given Sunday. What was it like working with Al Pacino? Alan I used to play softball together so I knew him be six three. And he's really good shortstop. I mean. You would think it looking at it, but he he moved, he moved really fast, and had a great arm had a great throw to first base. Could take grounders. You Know He. He what what the great hitter, but he was a great sex, shortstop and But. The whole movies for Jim Brown. I! Listen? Legend, the person I got the most. I had the most fun with probably large Taylor from the New York giants, and and learning about how the game changed because because of his athletic abilities. Would the Middle Linebacker, right and and he said you know Matthew I never went looking for trouble, but it always found me. And I mean just. Character and Get larger than life, and but what a gentleman! He was an Al. Pacino is great and Jamie. Foxx send a little cool J and Jim Brown is just. I mean another athletic legend. Jim Brown, and of course there's a little boy you don't. My father was a drive in theater manager. Really that's that's why we were moving around all the time I started in Loma Linda California then Imperial Beach, and then we moved to Utah. We had about eight drive INS, and so that's that's my childhood. This star like drive in screening. I lived that that's my childhood. And and the first time I saw Jim Brown. within the dirty dozen where he was just just amazing I, really know him as a football legend I knew him as a as a movie starring the dirty dozen. While one one final note just for reds spans listening, and and since you're a Yankee Fan, this will fit when we think of the Yankees here. We think of nineteen seventy six when the red swept the eighty, so I'll even on that. I can't tell you how much of a treat this was. And what an honor it was to talk with you. CONGRATS on this project best of luck with it, and and I really appreciate you. Check it in tonight. I'll thank you for having me on the show. Thank you. You gotta take care and and everybody who's going into movie? Have a good time. Buy some popcorn. Absolutely, thank you, Matthew. By all right take care there you go Matthew Modine. Tomorrow night, the premiere of the movie chance Amelia Starlight drive-in Friday Saturday Sunday eight, forty five. It's a really the trailer is really amazing. Six forty nine sports dot seven hundred WWL W.
NFL Wild-Card Weekend, Worst Beats of 2019, and Biggest Upset
"Hey Kelly welcome to the ringer podcast network. We published rate episodes in the month of December including watchable with Quentin Tarantino on dunkirk. Sean fantasy sat down with Greta. GERWIG talk about her new film. Little women on the big picture and Adam Sandler and Kevin Garnett appeared on the bill. Simmons podcast talk about newest film. Uncut gems happy new year from the ringer. All right welcome to against all odds with cousins out the final against all odds podcast of two thousand nineteen. It's a big like one. There's a lot going on so much to get to right by my side here. Working the board. CEO of against all odds he'll producer Jim Cunningham. What's happening Jim? Not Much Sal. How you doing? I'm doing well. You another two million dollar bet. Went down the tubes. Who did you even have last week? I don't know I'm the jets and the over you're like Bernie madoff chair Janet. Everyone's money doesn't that's the over. The over was interesting because well the bills weren't really going to start what you had Barclay in there because you know they they were locked into a five see not a lot of points. Their defense is normally good. We still have a few more weeks to get better at this. I'm no. I'm no one to talk that week. Seventeen kill the patriots on money. Like it's like they say. Hey you think you're gonNA pay for your Christmas gives air now not so fast patriots money like gone there. It is. It's magic goes in there right into New England. Foxborough steals the by away from ballot. Check first time in a decade. They're gonNA be playing the first week of the playoff. The wildcard round and that that was just the beginning of the end for me week. Seventeen was insane seahawks forty any niners big seating implications big gambling implications at the end. They could take the safety they might not. He lunges forward Jimmy G. They went by what five twenty six twenty one. We're going to cover everything today. All four playoff games player props individual player props. We're going to go over how those did in two thousand nineteen. We're going to take a ride on Captain Morgan's Riverboat Casino and GonNa go over. Best Beds and worse beats of two thousand nineteen email US cousin sal against all odds at gmail.com if you have any comments or WANNA put yourself up for the degenerate gamblers hall of fame. But we're not reading an email today too busy. Right now we're going to catch up with my gurus of gambling. My Wizards of wagering my Barron's betting my overlords of the odds degenerate. Try to Harry brother. Brian Darren the Paulie what's happened in Fellas. What's going on sal salad drop? What's going on well? I don't even really know where to begin because we could really spend an hour and a half just two thousand nineteen player props but we should probably probably let people go and spend the New Year's with their family and stuff like that. We're GONNA hit all four games. Playoff Games were not going to touch the college this week. We'll up next week to go over that. LSU Five five and a half six. I've seen point favorite over clemson lot of recency bias. We talk about that before four Saturday. CLEMSON's actually one point favorite. If they did they did all the match ups all the possibilities if it was going to be Clemson. LSU CLEMSON was a one point favorite but LSU role. Joe Joe Borrow let the world on fire and Clemson got lucky against Ohio State even though they beat them by exactly a little more than they were supposed to but anyway. That's where we are. We'll hit that that next week. Harry what was your best bet last week you live right. These ballgames beaten up. Yeah I you know I lost. I had the teaser I always. It was state with the Air Force Washington state cheese at bowl to go over sixty one. Both both was But Harry you do. They lost but America didn't lose at least those who are friends with your girlfriend who got to see a nice picture. Nice Christmas photo view and your lady making out right there. Air For everyone to see it was sent. I know I know you think I'm spying on you. But this was sent to me by several concern for they making out though on that photo. Did I first off at center. Yeah Yeah Yeah sure. But I'll also I think. Brian nailed it with Brian. Quote on there saying that Harry absolutely not thrilled to be doing that and he couldn't couldn't have been more right. Wow it looked like harry like she went in for a kiss. In Harry like turned his he turned his lips like to the side. He wanted no part because unless blips I was I was that was nice every time everytime somewhere. She wants to take a picture like that and then she posted on facebook and then she doesn't tell me and then all of a sudden I get tax from sow and Southcenter Elsa pitcher because he's buying spine well first of all. I have a podcast to do. Here's I yeah I need to keep track of all your extracurricular activities are Jim Cunningham. What how did you think of that you saw it? Harry looked like a hostage video or something shoulder climb so tight all right then parlay kid. I mean Harry commented on. He only did it because he was promised French toast with. I don't know what the Hell I'm not making that up. Do you think man. You'd think how would be flattered to have a girl that wants to kiss him. Impose Brian of it. It's really really is a shame. He should be so thrilled with this and steadies acting as if it's the world's greatest punishment here at Sino Harry. You better hope shows and listen to this podcast or her husband. I mean you're going to be in a lot there. You go all right. I'm just joking. Joking pollock let's talk Let's Talk Sports. You want your best bet. Nice dinner right. The Eagles tools. What did you have? There was a nice pilot. A two to one parlay with the eagles the chiefs and the Titans Sal pretty easy right as it turns out so They're not all like that. In fact right then none of them will ever like that but it was nice to hit in the final week so now. We're doing this on New Year's Eve morning I think I don't know why the second meeting but it's a second meeting Jason. Garrett got a second meeting to discuss future with the cowboys I think that was at noon. central time. We're we're we're close to finding out either very relieving news or just bizarre bizarre news right. Yeah What's the deal with that you know? There's speculation that the hosts whole staff is being fired. Which I think I think they need a fresh start from every get rid of everybody? Everybody bringing somebody who brings in their own stuff but as garrick and get some type of position in the organization. Something like what could be happening here. I know look Garrett by all accounts is a good man And I think Jerry Jones does have obviously has a soft spot for him. But I think What what's the delay here? What's the delay? It should have happened by now and I have a feeling we'll find out but Tom people listening to this podcast. Maybe maybe we'll have an answer old news by that. I don't understand what Jason Garrett say is like I scored forty seven points in the last game name another coach at scored that many point I guess could hang your hat on that but seven out of the last ten years not been a good decade seven years you know. Make the playoffs with this team. All kinds of money flying around Brother Bry you want your best bad awesome. Yeah Notre Dame ministering APSOS going up against Harry that immediately. I didn't even have to sweat. That out didn't really even have to watch much for the second half of that game so that was a nice Nice easy one there you go now. Let's get to these player props. He's two thousand nine hundred nine player. Props I'm going to talk about a strategy that I whoa. Let's let these guys brag a little why not Bri- you had the best one. I think you had the ravens the ravens make. The playoffs was easy. Right was that you're the one you want. uh-huh Brag about most. No I mean my the best one. I had the ravens plus four hundred to win the division. I think we all right. You know we did. I think like three different pods over the summer. Mer We dinner earlier than we did one Fantasy one in July and then we did another one in August when we were in Think when we were in Vegas but Yeah my my ravens one. Plus four hundred was By far my best one. I didn't do too well overall on some of my Props but that Ravens won was good from the start. I think everything I laid out I think we're all in agreement that the browns were going to be underachievers this year I think. So you like the steelers but you also like the ravens a little bit too. So let's seem like an easy one. The AD field over Brown's at minus one seventy to win the division there. But yeah the Ravens Evans made now that we look at it. It made sense if you're if you have like a a good first year quarterback like Lamar whatever young quarterback coming into his you now now tech and third year whatever and all you need. Is your an injury away from the top team to to make a wave. That's a good bet. That's what you did with the Ravens right there. Lamar passing touchdowns. This is crazy this as far as individual leaders bry you found a two hundred and fifty to one before the year started that. Lamar Dr would lead the League in passing touchdowns Yes who would have thought I mean with Lamar. There was also some other ones like his over. Under originally for touchdown passes I think was fifteen and a half half. I think it went off maybe like eighteen and a half a fifteen and a half g solo. I mean considering. Let's won a game but to lead the league at thirty six X was two hundred and fifty to one. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I mean it does make sense though. I mean nobody was expecting you know as running to be great but not not thirty six touchdowns so he probably not. I mean that's saying that he would be fifteen touchdowns off the mark. Pollock it as you pointed out. Not Too many guys over thirty touchdowns sounds this year as well absolutely incredible. I looked that up yesterday as you know sal every week. I put in a bet where I bet quarterbacks to throw over one and a half touchdowns sounds game. I I pour les it. I literally hit like three out of the four. And the last one falls like one touchdown short so I looked it up. And what was the deal with that. Never hit the shares literally Golfer Thirteen over fourteen on that bat kept trying Kept using and I looked at the touchdown leaders. Lamar Jackson thirty eighty six and three other guys topped thirty or more. So four guys over thirty passes it just seemed like it was a standard now in the league to have a couple. Hey guys approach forty or go over Ford in close to fifty and there wasn't one guy even close to that even mahomes I know he was hurt. But the average less than two touchdown passes a game this year. That's that's incredible to me credible. Mahomes not starting every game. I think he started fourteen games. Even though that's right one of the Games in Finnish breeze not starting every game that that helped but yeah. You're right the numbers will way low way low. I Yeah I don't know what and look could something. Then then he got Janus passing leader eight to one odds. What a godsend? The is just is just a miracle player. Please bring him back. I don't even understand this one killed me. Derrick Henry Rushing leader twelve to one. I had Chubb at nine to one. I think he had like a sixty yard leads. Seventy yard lead going into weeks. frigging bengals are trying the Texans. Texans aren't Henry goes crazy. I blew that bet I did have Thomas. As the receiving later I had a head Hopkins to I cashed on that at eight to one. He led receptions also plus four fifty winston interceptions nine to one. That just seemed like we'd give the gifts now. Aaron Jones McCaffrey's what the total touchdowns lead twenty eight to one for Aaron Jones. Fourteen to one for McCaffrey. McCaffrey of the most older yards. Six golladay with eleven touchdowns sixty six to one pretty good Shaq Jack Barrett nineteen and a half sacks not even on the board and then you had a politician who gave out Wagner for the most tackles I gave wagner out a six and a half to one for for most tackles in any hit Yep In Harry what did you are. Are you WanNa Brag about the bills making the playoffs and we look gallant. When I was wrong I scoffed at you? Now they're they're probably going to win a game. I think you ought you actually touted this a couple of times for me where I gave this out of plus three fifty but also I probably we had the easiest one out of all them All these props where I gave out a big bend to go under forty five hundred passing yards. You might have had one hundred and that was it for him for the season. Yeah and that's what these player props they don't. I don't think they account for injuries. They really don't know that and everybody wants you bet over so the number is going to be high. You look at something you just WanNa bet over you. You don't WanNa you don't Wanna Bet Aaron Rodgers on there. That's no fun and you know whatever the number is you're gonNA WANNA look over your optimistic about the New Year. None of these guys have screwed you in late August. So you're going to want to go over so the thing I'll say is I had Jay Gruden. I coach fired three two one that I feel like that was two and a half years ago but that one I also had bengals and Redskins or bengals or Redskins to not have the worst record that was like plus one. Oh four or something. Nothing but the thing I want to talk about is the unders. There's this Guy Jacobs Benson on twitter. He thanked me for putting out. Hey go every player prop under forty one and nine he went he bet fifty player props on there and went forty one and nine. Now you're GONNA pay a little vague in there so it's not exactly like eighty two two percent. I think he said it was. It went off at seventy percent or something. But that's pretty damn good forty one nine. You could send some money our way Jacob. We're Struckmann no. I'm really I'm looking at these Rogers on their Dalton under Big Ben is Harry said on their wentz under ca-car Watson even naming freeze probably one on one hundred two main reasons on their course. It's insane so just do it in so we say it every year but next year. I'm definitely betting all of these on the under because all you need again like you said with an injury so if you get an injury and somebody has like five player props out. Are you GonNa win all five. Yeah and then. Even if they're healthy you know maybe three and two four and one but over over the course of the season I I don't know we got we. Just gotTA DO IMMUNO LOSE A lot of money if there's ever ever versus correspond and likewise to it all kind of factors in like a quarterback getting hurt hurts the receiver going over you know so right. The receivers more likely to go under for receiver gets hurt the quarterbacks more likely to go under it's Kinda all goes together so although although it's funny 'cause like Winston was looking at Winston obviously went over and yards but like Evans and like Jay Howard. Some of them went under on receiving. Look thousand ours is like where the hell did. He didn't have like fifteen hundred. What happened here? How did how did you get these yards the interceptions we see the plane to see what a way to end the season? Listen Ha that's the way to do it. I was saying forget. Game of thrones take note. This is how you end that. This is a great season finale. Right there series finale. A pick six in in the last game of the year. God bless you James But yeah I'm looking at these numbers this is really like aside from McCaffrey. And Lamar Jackson and believe it. Or not. Like Phil Rivers. I think went over all these guys under under Russell Wilson. Tom Brady obviously Beckham. Obviously devante atoms hopkins all under in their yard. Total and touchdown. Total saquon didn't have a shot. He was he was out of the mix Like a month in you know it was going to miss a bunch of games but anyway. That's that's the point. If you take one thing from this podcast bet these underspends them spend three hours. Who Cares? Put Twenty dollars on each of them and so Brian. I think you picked it up. The overs overs were one hundred forty eight and two hundred and forty six overall. I mean that's a lot of props to look through but that's a great percentage Yup. Yeah yeah one forty eight to forty six so yeah if you put you put one hundred bucks down on all those you're GonNa you know you're going to win like us. What like nine or seven? Seven eight million dollars something crazy. Speaking of winning money we do this dumb pool. I think I like it more than anyone else mainly because I wanted the first year Harry one on it last year. Now this is the third year doing it. The four of us do this. It's me and a degenerative it's the first touchdown pool. Here's the explanation. There's eleven playoff games aims right including the Super Bowl. You get two hundred fake dollars. You have to spend at least ten dollars on each of the eleven games you take a site that you all agree on that comes up up with the odds for first touchdown. Okay in all the Games. So let's say you have ZAC. You put ten dollars on him at nine to one. He's scored the first touchdown against Seattle you get ninety dollars. Let's say that ends up being the only one that hits everyone in the pool owes you ninety dollars. There's no other rules beyond that. You just have fun with it right. Am I missing something pocket. Now that's it. Are we capping this year. We we're going to keep it. You guys are good with keeping what do we do we. We didn't cap it last year. Although none of us really hit too many I think I hit twenty. No yeah no well you you you won like three hundred bucks from each of us. I mean I in two years have yet to to get one so I'm just donating money. I am the worst on I tell you what really playing with yourself. Michelle was money for me last year. And Harry AH I didn't pay Harry up until we met up in Vegas and August and he was. He's he basically had no money left. I gave him the three hundred or three forty forty I owed him. He turned it into a couple grand like within like a couple of minutes. Did he really really is Brian. Playing Roulette at the planet Hollywood. I thought it was the thought you saw pictures of you and your girl for making out. Okay I was wondering how you made that money. I don't need to be a millionaire. That's right speaking of millionare's we could bring he'll producer Jim Cunningham into this. He loses two million dollars a week. Like it's nothing. I think we would cap it. I don't know you have any interest in this jam where you just I wanNA watch. Yeah sure all right. We'll bring he'll producer Jim Cunningham in and You know if he loses loses we will make them pay. You know you can't bets. You can't bet some Sam darnold every week in this. Forget we're GONNA figure forget it all right. Let's go over the Games. Lots of good games this weekend again Houston Buffalo. I think this was sentenced on like in week. Six that this was going to be a game. It was going to be the first Saturday game. Harry where where are you and is especially are are amazed by the fat. I don't know when they last did this where it was to. AFC on Saturday to NFC on Sunday did they. They don't split it like this. I don't think it's ever happened. Has It yeah. Yeah Yeah Wide said. They wanted that Patriots game at night and they got it. They don't know how long they're gonNA be around so they got. Let's start with Houston minus three forty a two and a half hosting buffalo parley kids. START US out. Who do I care? So I'm on the bills. Bandwagon hair. Rhino Harry's been All season The bills six and two straight up in the last eight games on the road this seven one and one against the spread. The last night in the road doesn't just seem like a great great matchup for the bills. Maybe everybody is going to be on the bills here. especially getting These points here. there's nothing spectacular about the Texans and Watson Hopkins What else after that very very mediocre the bills travel well The game plan doesn't seem to differ from week to week. We know what they're going to run. The Ball Allen's going to make a few big plays with his arm and with his feet and they've they've been a little underrated Brown receiver what over a thousand yards. This year with seventy plus catches Cole Beasley close to eight hundred yards cards with close to seventy catches single terry averages five point one yards per carry. Will they unleash him this week. Where he's GonNa get twenty to twenty five carries Maybe that's the case. The very solid on defense. I think they stop Hopkins And not do the cover this game. I think they have a pretty good chance to win. This game Let's take the bills getting those points there. So I'm would depart like and I also think this is a great teaser. Game Right off the Bat. If you could find something to get this up to eight and a half I think they only lost by over touchdown. Once this year's late October Eagles went to buffalo and one but yeah they are gritty team. This Josh Allen is ready to win on the road I believe you got Davis White on Hopkins and I that takes care of that. Honestly Hopkins have lost in some of these games and it's all a matter of will fuller alerts healthy but otherwise. I think the bills are better team. They're better coached and they're gonNA show up and they're GONNA win a road game on Saturday Harry you lack the total. Oh here yeah I do like to build but I do like the under two forty two and a half right. That's what it is. Uh I love the way. This team is playing defense all year. Sean McDermott. It's got one heck of a team he's put together. Oh Yeah you mentioned Davies whites leads the NFL tied for the leader in the lead in the NFL with six interceptions And in past years the Texans. Just don't get points in playoff games last last year. They lost twenty one to seven at home. They only bought one touchdown hop you. You know Deandra Hop Danbury watching that one touchdown and lane fourteen points who the quarterback receiver receiver who we talking about Seven point last year versus Indie. Two years ago they only sixteen against the pats and the year before that they were shut out right at home versus Kansas City Thirties. And nothing I think this is going to be a low scoring affair the building and be able to run the ball kill. The clock The bills in the last eight of nine matchups eight or nine games games gone under forty two points The last four wildcard weekends like I said the Texans Games except gone under three or four those In the last four or five games between the two teams have gone under two and in the first playoff game of the two thousand nine hundred twenty season. This will be a solid under under forty two and a half scan SAM. Why don't you just ride the bill? I mean you pick them to make the playoffs in eighty percent of your explanation. Explanations was pro bills. Take the bills on their more than the bills. It's very very difficult for the Texans to get rolling when they have a plan even when they one At home about four five years ago it was nineteen thirteen against the bengals. So I just think that it's very difficult. Last year one touchdown the whole game right off the bat and they couldn't going the restaurant. We'll do you go all right. Just take the bills. The on Harry Likes Yonder. Pali likes bills. The bills pulled the upset. Here let's go into Saturday night. This is fun New England four and a half forty three and a half over Tennessee. It's in Foxborough. This is the first first time in a decade. They've played wild card weekend. I gotTa Tell Ya. I think it's been fun to make fun of the bill The Patriots and how they blow do it and how it's magic stole their by everything but now as everything settles in look at the line and it's edging up a little bit seem five and a lot of spots now like all right. Do I really want my money on. Tannehill over Bella. Check brother Bri. I don't I don't think you do either. No yeah look at my concern about the pets. Yeah I'm concerned about them. But they're playing team you know they're gonNA be appointed team that runs the ball while they have the former pet embraceable coach. But there's no way I'm taking the titans in this game at pats with panel. I mean again the spread start a four and a half. It's now five probably should be more. I don't know typically this would normally be like like in a normal year this would be six and a half or seven by. How bad would you feel though in this game again? I think I'm doing this more my feelings like if I bet on the titans they just go into Fox ranked blown out. I am the NFL like absolute shit But again I I think that even if they're gonNA have a down year this year I think they're they have one good game left in them. I mean just two weeks ago against the bills I thought they played a great game. They could have blown out the bills in that game bills. Kinda lucky to stay in that one a little bit. But I think you're gonNA I expect the same type of game from them. Look pats are seven and two against spreading their last nine playoff games. Titans one in five Ansa Hansa spread last six verses. The pets But like I said I'm there's no way I'm taking the titans here I feel like a lot of people are on them. But I'm back in the PAT's minus five. I'm trying not to fall for the trends like Brady at home and the play offs and all this because I know this is a different team in a different situation but just last year the the chargers went to Baltimore and one in the playoffs and then went to Foxborough and I think just as many people thought. The chargers were better than the Patriots. As think the titans these are better than the pats and maybe they are but when push comes to shove they just get it together and yes they probably could use the rest but I think the secondary plays like we saw earlier in the year. And I think we get a big game. They're gonNA pressure townhall and I think we've got a big game from James White. I think you're gonNA have like an eight reception hundred twenty yard game. Oh yeah that makes sense. It's Patriots win and cover. I just don't think they lose to the titans at home. I think they have one good game. And then they have momentum. That's like Shit I love the chiefs over pats but now now I'm not sure but so I don't think they're dead. I'm not writing and offer de Titans might be better. I just don't think it's going to happen this week. Harry you again going going over on their here. Yeah manigault the over here. You Bakery point like remember. I mean it's not a wild card weekend game. It was divisional playoffs last year. But everyone said the you know the pats were down down worrying about their offense what they do when they went out and played and actually in the playoffs they put up forty one against the chargers enrolled and the game was over by the early third quarter. I mean like you you said Derrick Henry third eighteen hundred yards eighteen touchdowns. He's back and you last week. And and White it's definitely underrated Running back get seventy two receptions this year five touchdowns and he always seems to be clutch when it comes to play off Titans have been scoring a lot lately. Though you know that nine straight games nine inched breaking into the titans and played the Games over forty. Three points Eight Games It lasts games. The winner had scored at least thirty points in those games of the titans and played and in the Pats last nine playoff games total. It's gone over in seven of them. So look when it comes to push comes to shove and and the Patriots come out in the play in playoff games they just light it up on offense they find things to get done. Maybe look again for my boy. McGill and kill Harry to have a big game and and Make some plays to downfield. He's been he's been Brady's been looking damn so looking for a big game out of him and now this game goes over. I think that's that's it fourth quarter. He blows it the open with one long play little APPs in the secondary for Tennessee. And that's how I let skip around. I know this is the last game Sunday but do seahawks eagles. This open open the eagles minus one. Everyone's benning seahawks minus two doug about recency bias. This is kind of the opposite of it. We saw the seahawks. All right. They lost they lost but they lost by three inches. Maybe that's maybe that's the thing and people saw Russell. Work is magic in the second half at this eagles team quietly like put together a winning streak and in the in the fourth quarter especially good like fifty percent converting on third down Carson. wentz numbers are excellent. Seahawk seahawks still banged up. You can look at that injury report from last week. It doesn't get much better. I felt like I felt like Russell was doing Peleton commercial for three hours just running around around and was lucky enough to be in the game. I don't know parlay kid you want to go over under here. Yes so this is a with both the teams suffering so many injuries. I think it's tough to pick aside here because of that So let's just take the under forty five and a half half points In this game the eagles have gone under a nil last six home games and that includes a game against Seattle Seattle back in late November with Seattle winning by the scores. Seventeen to nine. So I'll could this play out kind of similar to that It's very reponsible in my book. It will affect the average scorn. These last six home games have been combined thirty two points so really low scoring games in the last a six and phillies so What would change? I'm not really sure. I think both teams here because of their injuries gonNA wait for the other team to kind of blink. I I think you're GONNA see teams trying to run the ball a little conservative to start I think The weather is going to be a little chilly. in Philly that day which I don't know well how much of an impact it has on some of these games anymore but They just not too many dynamic offensive players in this game. The Eagles still have a rugged defense sandals defenses banged up but might not get to exposed with the phillies having such such a lack of weapons. Forty five and a half is a a pretty decent total here. So let's take the under in this game sound. Stay away from the A winner here. You obviously haven't heard of Boston. Scott all announcers in the public taking public by storm. Everybody Loves Boston has gotten I love saying his name at least but you're right. The weapons aren't there. I don't know I buy might be inclined to stay away. Also I know this is the last game of the weekend really Russian. Stay way too much with eleven. Playoff Games Brother Brian Convinced me. I'm leaning Seahawks but God convinced me of it all right yeah. I'll try to convince you. I do like the seahawks. Well I like them. I don't know if I love them at my Ninsu. I think Darren might be maybe darned right maybe the under is probably the better play here look the AH phillies one. Four games in a row but all of those games have actually been really close games against shitty teams in their division. And we've made fun of that division all year a year long. So I'm just GONNA continue to ride that even though it's weird 'cause Seattle's it's funny. They're one and three in the last four native really haven't looked great either except for maybe that fourth quarter her against San Francisco so I do think this is going to be a close game. I just think that Wilson shows some late game magic in this wins. I I feel much better just taking Wolfson late in the game We know it's going to probably be come down to the end again the And I I feel so much more comfortable with Wilson here And Mike Darren said I mean Philly has so few weapons at this point I mean at least Seattle still has some weapons on the field. I I just feel like Wilson will make a few more places with his feet feet than whence will When you look at Seattle they're five and one against the spread last six and wildcard there five one one last seven on the east coast or a five hundred last five versus the eagles? So I think again I don't necessarily love it. I like it a little bit. I leaned that way But I also liked the under in this. Yeah I yeah I mean if you think it's going to be close to three quarters and then you have to pick between Russell and Wednes- even though I just said that went to number some pretty good in the fourth quarter last four weeks you WanNa Lean Russell just because of the Russell Wilson Magic and everything else but like we saw Sunday night night even though they came up short still one of the top teams. Let me ask you Harry as a giants fan. You rooting against the giants week. Seventeen because that would only only help the cowboys get to the plants be truthful well You know what that's not true. First off I really thought the giants could win. The game was was the fourth straight division game philly and all banged up. Plus one seventy. I thought the giants had a chance after the last two wins but also what I wanted to actually happen happen is the giants beat the Eagles Dallas and go ahead and beat Washington and win the division. And then let you guys get thrilled when you actually maybe win a playoff game and then lose the next week and then what do you do with a cowboy fan. Where do you go from there? Because now you're all set to get rid of Garrett. He Wins into playoff game. Wins the division. That's what I wanted and then get smoked in the next game then West. What is Jerry do? I keep checking my phone. I don't know what Jerry does but now at released by the schedule they've been talking for fifteen minutes so now partly it's over fifteen minutes and they still haven't made a decision. I don't know I don't like this. I don't like this. They got the guy by the way went. And I know like Russell Wilson you guys just mentioning. His percentage like the greatest ever to ever not to not lose two games in a row. Has He ever washed three games in a row. Just it'd be three in a row. Yeah Yeah that's interesting. And they're seven. Want the seven and one on the road right Foreign Ford home. Is that what it was. So don't don't think that it's two long trip but maybe maybe doesn't make that big a deal all right. Let's go to offer here New Orleans minus eight forty eight and a half home Home Against Minnesota lot working against Minnesota first of all don't put Greg manion and that guy was a disaster. They should not. They should not start him at all. Dalvin coke is says. He's ready to go. That to me is huge. I don't think they have a chance without him if he plays. They do. Have a chance. You have what do you have working against you while the saints are peaking. They really are defenses. Playing rock solid. Their offense has been spectacular since the land loss which is a weird one. And Oh and then you've got the Minneapolis. Most miracle like Steph on digs. Maybe apologize apologize for that. And maybe the saints won't we'll take it easy on you. But I think this is a two touchdown game. I think I think the Saints Win at home. They don't play any games. Harry you disagree. Yeah you know what. I'm GonNa take the Vikings here. I've been on this team all year and I just think I don't know it's probably just me but does this game just too easy here for the saints Look I'm going to get a couple of reasons. Why like they're home? In six of the last seven Games uh-huh The saints have scored at least thirty four points definitely revenge on their mind as you just mentioned sow Everyone says kirk cousins can't win big games and Michael Thomas. Thomas had a season for the ages. Hundred forty nine receptions over seventeen hundred yards. Vikings ended the season losing to the last two and three three of the last five. But yeah I think with cooking there they definitely have a chance but I think the the office and the the most important player. That's going to be playing. This game is the defensive end for the for the Vikings to Neil Hunter yet fourteen and a half sacks guys all over the field has to put pressure at do some things here to get the breeze so they can maybe forced so some turnover but Minnesota five and one against it spread in the last six on the road versus New Orleans. Saints are just two and ten against the spread in the last twelve. Playoff Games aims as a favorite. And this you'll love this one. Brian the Vikings are nine and two and the last eleven games versus Dome teams and to win one against the Saints Well Bryan. Do you love that one. I'll tell you love Kirk. Cousins got lucky because if if the Patriots don't blow that game they get the by and I'm almost positive they stick this game at night. Saturday night the saints for sharing and then cousins cousins uses disaster at night. Yeah I mean they play Games closed. They killed the eagles. This is what they've done. The playoff teams stayed with a score of Seattle which everyone has and they lost to the chiefs piece by a field goal. I think that was the mat more game. But one of the map. More Games but Yeah they keep close Coach Zimmer says. I don't think anyone believes we can win this game. Well go out there and win win a big game. Make a statement wind kirk cousins. I don't see it brother. Bry You like you like the total here. Yeah yeah like the over forty and a half. It seems it seems a little low to me I would never go under any game at the saints The offense you're saying it has been explosive. They're averaging forty points. It's a game in their last four whereas Minnesota's offense while it struggled recently. I don't count any of those. I mean with Cook in the lineup. The last five games. They've averaged twenty nine points a game so you're looking at totals The Saints Have Gone Over Ten eleven twelve playoff games when their favorite eight of the less Levin. Vikings Saints Games have gone over over. The Vikings Games have gone over six of the last eight I'd be a little nervous. Maybe laying the eight year. Maybe based on some of the things Harry was saying although I I would lean the saints in in this one but it's it's not a prime time game like you were saying for cousin so I expect him to put up some points. I expect the saints put plenty of points so for eight and a half seems low. All right they go so those are the four games. I think you mentioned that you love this week. I like next week better than any for football that the yeah the by teams they have a legitimate shot making the super bowl since some most of these teams don't this week but biking's are making a rod what I was looking through everyone's futures you do have a future ticket on the Vikings right with sixteen and one or something. Yeah okay all right well as you get better today for sure. Well let's take a quick break. January is here and that means January. Sports are here pro football playoffs kicking off off the college. Football season is wrapping up and the NBA is getting into full swing. And if yours is cited as we are about the best sports month of the year and you'll WanNa make sure you enjoy all all the action on Fan Duel Sportsbook. Vandals sportsbook is America's biggest online sports book. For a reason they've got all the bet you come on. 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I don't know what it was. TNT TBS you could catch like sixty times in a two day span. Dan but I watched the scene. Remember when Ralphie beats up Farkas the neighborhood bully who had braces. The kid had braces gets getting into a a fight every day but his parents like you know we straighten teeth at the crack me up. I thought that was funny anyway. Ralphie gets the best of Farkas. Put them down. bloodies is a bloody mess. Quite widen upset. One of the biggest upsets I think in movie history so I said captains like hey. Why don't we put it up to vote to bet on this? What's the biggest upset in sports movie? History have some good choices here. Daniel Larusso over Johnny Lawrence and the karate kid three to one odds rocky over Drago seven to one odds odds the bad news. Bears tend to one odds or the field at five to two brother. BRY which one you go with my God. This has made my favorite Captain Morgan yet. So many good ones It's probably impossible to do just one we might have to do. I just love the idea of coming up with fake lines for all of these as movies like endgame lines actual lines like the rocky airline. We were talking about yesterday while it probably wasn't that high. When he was down thirty five points going into the fifteenth round he was about a trillion? Two one sale But so many Jeff Some little giants neces- roughness space jam. dodgeball vision quest. Was a good one but I'm going to go with I'm going to go with Teen Wolf In the championship and the championship game with the Wolf. If they have the wolf Scotty seemed as favored by what they're like minus two thousand minus two thousand five with without the wolf with Scotty. They're probably a plus two thousand thousand underdog. We've we forget how bad that team was before that game. And then plus when Scotty comes into Jim the game is twenty two three. They are losing. When Scotty comes in? They don't have the wool. They must have been like a thousand and one at that point. Did you see the rostered. Scotty it's the guy for melrose place. It's the fat kid from peewee sermon. Right I mean I could talk about this forever. The weird thing about that beavers team is. They had a lefty on the team. That was actually really good. They never got him the Goddamn Ball. Aw is no no no why but if you there's so many things so many great things about this movie the fact that they really ran like three plays and they just just kept re running them over and over again and that's how they were doing the scoring in that The women in the end song was great. But but in general At twenty any two to three they were probably the biggest which is Scott on the floor that I can remember any movie interesting. Well I'll say I don't want to put a pin in your in your in their bobble here but it's based on a true story. The Wolf The wolf wasn't Michael J. Fox but there was a wolf that can now now. That's a good one team. Will exact definitely a good one parlay kid. Who are you going with? I'll sows all set to take Daniel Russo take the favourite here He that little known in fact I actually grew up a little bit next to his Ralph Machos cousin was a neighbor of mine Growing up Rafeh was addicts hills. Boy I think for A little bit and his cousin lived next. And your cousin. Jill dated Johnny Lawrence Right For a little bit at what she she did. Isn't that a fact and she date the bad guy from the karate kid a little bit Outta town you. I've telling you look find that alphabet. I'm pretty sure I did. Rumors spread anyway. I had not heard of it. But but Salva Bryant bought up the best one of all time. Vision quests yeah right louden swain shoot a couple of things within the wrestling world. If you know why was Louden Swain. The Guy who was sucking wait in that movie all the time right then the always seemed to be the smaller wrestler to Swain at. Didn't it seemed like a total title. Mismatch us what's his name is shoot carrying the logs up the steps. That movie and Matthew Modine was rather a nerdy guy but look that movie movie. How have they not made another one of these movies? Sal you're in Hollywood vision quest wrestling wrestling movies. A little underrated The last one called Win Win Sal. Very good with Paul Giamati very underrated movie. If people here have not seen it we could also say use that in in this spot louden swain pinning shoots in vision quest. Maybe the greatest sports upset of all time and honestly Maybe the most underrated sports movie of all time. Vision Quests Nice Awhile was very Picture hold dear to my heart me putting Matthew Modine in in a wizar- I don't know where the hell we were Simmons with with me. We met him. I think I guess it was at a super bowl or something. I saw him and I asked him if I put them in a way I mean he looked at me like I was speaking mandarin when he was like. What the hell are you talking about? Come on a big picture. I security are leaned forward. He pretends he's a pain. It was great all right. Vision Quest most biggest upsets sports movie. History Harry what are you going with. You know what I was GONNA go. I was going to go with hoosiers. Watch that movie any day of the year three to five days a year but still. Yeah but you know I'm GonNa go with Major League one An amazing comeback to the season by the Indians In the regular season to force the one game playoff versus the Yankees The cast of characters that were in the movie theater Serano You know bashing the ball. W- Joe Boo Rene Rousso when she was actually pretty hot and and Bob you Bob Euchre. Of course it's Harry Doyle right I mean how rate with that but still In the ninth Lugos to Harris to start the game and then he goes to Ricky Vaughn and the top of the night three fastballs strikeout hayward they were and the and the and the top of the night and the bottom. It couldn't have been more cheesy than to have tom upper around For Berenson awesome talent to have he's brought in need you know and I swing font hunt and Willie mays hayes scores from second base to win the division when the game and the one game playoff. That was so amazing ridiculous. All right well you know what I think Nice backhanded compliment to Rene Russo. We should have her on the podcast. Jim Cunningham have her critique carries. Make out a photo from face. That's the only way Outta there. Then winton cop right all right well yeah people get older what happens. Maybe her husband was GONNA make French veterans of making out with girls that she. I don't now Jim. Jim Look into a gym. What's the biggest upset in sports history? I'm going with the nineteen ninety-six film sleepers. Are you guys familiar with that. A feel good movie with Kevin Bacon and Robert Deniro head about the kids who get locked up and Judy and then they played the Garl- in football and they convinced cade resort to play with them and he's really good and they beat the guards huge upset such an upset and the guards are so upset that they beat that kid resulted death. I think anytime you you get a child beaten to death. It's probably the biggest upset ever. I like that I mean there's just so many whenever the guards eat it. Yeah it's great. There's visit got about the longest yard other so many there really are rudy. I mean Rudy is the quintessential that's a true story. So I if we get into true stories as a million million of them about white men can't jump became can't dunk the whole frigging movie and then in the highest pressure situation. He gets it done now. I'm not buying and I say Miaki over crease might have been bigger than Daniel Larussa over Over Johnny Lawrence. How about John Dupont? On killing Dave Schultz Donohoe. Okay well listen mine. Stallone not even any of the rocky movies stallone and over the top up. Oh that's a good one. Lincoln Hawk Against Bull Hurley. But there's bowl early. The guy's got more roles on his neck than a Sharpei dog. He's built like a brick house his arms thicker than cinderblocks. He's two millimeters away from pending stallone's knuckles down. Bry You talk about live bats. That's minus five hundred million at that point and stallone though he goes over the top bloody nose and all he does it. Well it's my and what about. What about stallone son? One he does it to to that other kid that those are all right he does not allow this so money. Th I mean. This could be a three hour podcasts. So so you know what. Let's do it to the boxing. You ever watch that. Which one team to the Max? Where Wolf is a boxer in college and like Talk Tallish Bateman? Yeah exactly it's Michael J. Fox's cousin it's amazing my cousin cousin Joe might have dated. And that's another week. Face and Captain Morgan's make-believe Riverboat. Casino no matter how you live like a captain. Captain Morgan remind you to please drink responsibly. Responsibly captain's orders it's time for shark tank. These guys the boiling over there is best bets. My God there's so many I guess we'll assume people you are listening today. I don't even know what some of your best bets are There's a lot of New Year's bowl games and stuff and obviously the four playoff games. We mentioned Let's start you off poly kid. Would you like doc best bet this week sal is the saints And a point favorite. Isn't this an angry playoff team. Right now the saints. I mean they finish thirteen and three now they. They don't even get a first round by winning. Thirteen Games They're angry over the last couple of years the way. The playoffs have ended in particular A couple years ago against the same Vikings net They lost and So quite frankly I really liked him. I don't think this game is ever ever going to be very close. The saints you said before a clicking on all cylinders Kamara is now a back to being himself. The last few games scoring touchdowns running wild Michael Thomas cannot be stopped and their defense is very solid and their defense defensible. Do a good job of stopping Dalvand Cook. They're going to put the pressure on Kurt cousins to throw the ball and win the game. He has proven he can not not do that. And these types of situations. There's no better crowd than the saints crowd so that is a very probably the most difficult place to play in the NFL in my book. So I think the saints cover this game and they win a going away At some point in the second half they really start pulling away so saints. It's minus eight my best better the week all right and you know. What if nothing else par like you? We look at the sideline and see coach Zimmer and coach Peyton and say This is what could have been right as absolutely John would have been all right. Harry coming off a loss. What do you think best bet? Yeah I'M GONNA go Friday to the Idaho Potato Bowl in Boise Idaho Ohio minus eight against Nevada. And I look I O. Six and six Nevada. is seven five. The reason why Ohio's it was minus eight here in this game Way outclass. I'm Nevada. had a very easy scheduled very lucky to be even and all their quarterback Nathan roar at thirty two total total touchdowns this year the the whole team of Nevada. The quarterbacks had thirteen touchdowns and thirteen interceptions Also Ohio in their last seven games forty one points per game. They're going. They've got three running backs. I got five hundred and fifty or more yards rushing this year in Nevada and their losses. Give up seventy seven to Oregon fifty four to Hawaii at home. Thirty six thirty one and thirty three to UNLV to close out the season UNLV fired. The coaching didn't make the make a bowl game. So I'M GONNA go with Ohio to roll on Friday afternoon minus say Idaho Potato Bowl in Boise over Nevada. All right. That's the only game Friday right. Yeah it's frigging powerhouses. All over the place and Harry's during the potato bowl is are Harry's on the potato diet brother Bry what yours all right so every playoff season I love the under one and a half shorter such that. It usually doesn't come out until like you know a a day or two before Used to be like minus one twenty. They've gotten a little smarter. It's now between minus thirty and minus one fifty But I am looking at the saints paints. Vikings I'm expecting a lot of scoring so hence that's why I think out of all the four games. They're my favorites. You go under the one and a half touchdowns That under I wanted to touch on bets gone eight and three the last two seasons. I think it was even better the year before it. I just didn't feel like checking today but It always you know you you can see brees in this game. I feel like the saints. Every time they ask for a pass interference They kind of get it I think there are do couple calls Probably still so I could. I could definitely see a few plays at the one this weekend. So I'd like that under one and a half but like I said minus thirty miles one fifty and you gotta think all right. Yeah you're right road. Some calls biggest call. We'll get to that in a second but Yeah we'll pass interference but the ball the one. Let's mention this anything inside the A to count as a one yard touchdown correct. Yeah I mean well. It's as long as a one and a half. You know as long as it's one and a half. Yeah if it's close I feel I've seen I know well almost touched the to give it as a one. It is really weird. I've also seen at the other way too sometimes. So Yeah Yeah but essentially all right this is this is this is what's how how's our other bet. Do and I know it was streaky. We like betting the over and the longest touchdown down for these bowl games. That don't have playoff implications and I think it lost three in a row. We got scared and lost another three but we might be like three games over five hundred now right in that year I really have to track it a little bit better but I think it's probably a few games over Yesterday I think it was. I think it was two and two though yesterday. When where can I forget it? We Got Parlay Kid. We got brother Brian. We got there all right Brian. I'm GonNa go with you. I like that I just feel like guide jinx it when I jumped on this bet but I really just think it's a a smart bet at think we're looking at six touchdowns and I believe one of them will be not a yard to half or last night and so that's what would you say the odds of beyond that. That's probably between minus one thirty. Might as well it should be minus thirty but I think sometimes you'll we'll see a jump up to my as one fifty depending okay. All right He'll producer Jim. You're so so much money. In a tank year. Millions millions millions of dollars the economy is thriving and yet you just keep losing. Its doesn't aspect. Give us a winner here well. Hopefully we won't go into twenty twenty twenty million dollars in the hole right. Who are the jets playing? The jets are playing. Yeah I'll take the bills plus three at York. Meaning the you know always against the empire state I muster to. We're going to say goodbye to these is and as you say goodbye and wish everyone a happy new year. Tell us we're going to you. Say Good Riddance. That the bad beats of the year and move on Brother Bry were speed of the year where speed a two thousand nineteen all right. I'm at the BRI I would. It's funny there's so many I bet so many damn games and I bet pretty much everything that I avi. I can't actually remember that many bad beats. That's how many games I bet so. I'm GonNa stick with something that I talked about a few weeks ago. Probably say the over him Rosen. Stroke was probably the worst risk. Because that's probably the worst. UFC loss ever for me Over him was up by four. Nothing with few set with like three seconds left in the fifth round and got knocked out got. His face exploded. Even though the the official shouldn't have stopped it so I think that That was my worst definitely the worst. I can remember over the last two months once. I think like every two or three weeks brother Bry will text us about a fight. None of us are watching September. Like I just suffered the worst title. All Time Guy was winning. My guy won all four rounds and they got knocked out seconds left absolute. That's the same thing I know. That's why I do one. Yeah rose what's what's her name rose and drage fight when When rose I mean there couldn't have been a more dominating first round I thought it was like the best fighter ever looked in the first round and then the second still dominating and then just gets thrown on her head so Yeah suffered many many bad ones so maybe he carefully. Yeah maybe you can't even count fighting as he'd really you kind of asking for it. It's like a big twelve. You're you're going to get beat one way or another. I Harry worse be to the year. You know I made a parley a couple of weeks. I can't remember all that there is a million but I can't remember that I had I did have one a couple of weeks ago was like eighteen money line parlay. Nfl College Basketball Together. And this is this is This is for Tate where I had North Carolina didn't even bother even looking to I thought about it was actually a winner. I just thought that it was in North Carolina minus sixteen hundred against Wofford at home mm-hmm and they lose that game And what's even worse about that game as North Carolina lose at home to walk or they went to the line twenty times they shot better than WOFFORD and they had seventeen seventeen more rebounds and Wofford went to the free throw line of total six times and they still lose at home to Wofford sixteen hundred. Well I guess that's a bad. They're not that a good this year though. I mean they barely beat yell. I don't know they're just not good but all right. That's your wars. beat good good for you by the way Harry's from just texted her worst beat does that photo she took on and facebook authorize imposing that she's really upset parley. Kid Yours beat well a Wasn't my worse beat financially but it's the easiest one for me to remember right now I'll want it could be any of those quarterback Over one and a half touchdowns every week I seem to get sued yet could have been any better. I had on the rams lost so much money on ramp props and everything like that But I'll just stick. Does something simple yesterday for fun. My basically my last bet of twenty nineteen I put like a ten team moneyline parley and with all big big a big college favorites nine out of ten teams hit. I lose with South Carolina who was minus eight thousand sow uh-huh they will minus eight thousand and they lose at home to US stenciling I don't even know anything about either team. I just know. South Carolina beat beat Virginia. Last week they have a very good coach and They were minus eight thousand. I just put like ten teams like that on a parley us today thinking I would I would just went a little bit of money. And how do you lose. minus-eight that would have been to have had that. The other way around would have been Nice Nest and Oh my God I know never hi Daryn at at at the time I will say you should be giving the service we've done to our our listeners listeners followers here. I'm not kidding when I say. The kid went four and five three hundred four every single parlay with these toll touchdowns over one and a half for like an a terrible like how is this. I feel like every week. Derek Carr has a touchdown three minutes into the game and then it gets picked in the exactly only the two. But you should be giving out these individually because people could straight bet. These and Matt's money I should. I'll do that. I'll do that more next year. And speaking of that I I did have a huge one this year with an I needed mahomes to cap it off on the Monday night. Game right when he threw one like the first drive drive and then he got hurt on the goal on the second drive and that was it just like that type of stuff happened to me all year with that. So but you're right individually next young to give those out a lot that all right good Jim Cunningham. Well I don't know two million dollars to just rolled off bad beats. Do you remember I think the worst bet was probably I bet. Tape Frazier Five Bucks. That he wouldn't quit his job and he did it. Wow Yeah yeah. That's all it took. That's interesting happen. I'll have to read up on that. Is there a story on that online or anything not. Maybe maybe I'll take your end. The eiser ones running in the eyes are ones still all right. You know I was GonNa make a big. I'm not even GonNa talk and everyone knows what my worst beat of the calendar year. It was way back in January about a million of them but clay travis and I claim we're on a locking in together for thirty five thirty thirty eastern on F S One. We bought a ticket on prop swap for the saints to win the Super Bowl. I get sick talking about it. They played the rams and attend nothing lead in the championship game saints let him back in you know the rest blatant blatant pass interference call. Tommy Lee Lewis. Just barreled barreled over by Nicole. Roby Coleman they show Coleman the play after the game he's like Oh my God. Yeah I was passing offense and my checking account is all screwed up as a result and so is this league because consequently they make this rule. That doesn't even really exist where they could replay now blatant pass interference calls and I it got overturned like three all year or something stupid. So that's my worst speed of the year but that's it no bad beats and twenty twenty right guys. We'll move on uh-huh goodyear violence. I'm sure I'll have one today for the final episode. Two thousand nine hundred and against all odds like I said lock it in on F s one four thirty to five thirty east and Jimmy Kimmel live eleven thirty five tonight every weeknight on ABC. That's at degenerate and he'll producer Jim Cunningham. I'm sal saying so long happy handicapping and have a happy and save twenty twenty
Vision Quest With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Ryen Russillo
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You can go to the re watchable twitter feed you know that existed at watchable. 's We post a whole bunch of stuff about the movies were about to do including this one. The second installment of the flawed re-watch ables guys. It ain't the eighty five minutes. It's what happens in the eighty five minutes vision quest coming up and I all louden swain could think of was getting in shape. What since he met the girl of his dreams. All he can think is. Are you kidding? Me Trenton New Jersey. Petty certainly can't do. What's on his mind sexual of calories a shock. This is the new film from executive producers of flashdance vision quest. Bill Simmons Hair with Chris. Ryan Ran. Russillo is episode two of the flawed rewatch symbols. Incredibly reliable movies. That have one flaw. We'll get to the floor later. We're doing vision quest. Let's start here. Do you feel like you need to tell people what vision quest is vision. Quest is a movie that came out in Nineteen eighty-five it starts Matthew Modine. It is about a high school wrestler. Who Decides he says is movie starts by him. Say My name's Latin Swain. Last week I turned eighteen. I wasn't ready for it. I haven't done anything yet so I made this deal with myself. This is the year I make my mark. First of all great setup. Great advice it's kind of like marriage decides. He needs to go from one hundred ninety pounds to win. Sixty eight to wrestle. Shoot the unbeatable guy in in the state. I'll start here. Not only. Is this the greatest wrestling movie ever? This is the only wrestling movie ever. It's basically this and win win and then a bunch of professional wrestling movies but a lot of people wrestle and I think for the rest of the community this has become what slapshot became to the hockey community it is is oversized important movie that. I think everybody who's ever wrestled has probably watch very secretly. It's a really good eighties moving and it's like Bitcoin essentially these movie. It's not aware that it's eight movie going. We think back about we'LL EIGHTIES. Movies are now you think of big blockbusters Beverly Hills Cop Steven Spielberg Amblin. Kinda goonies E. T. SCI FI or fantasy like music or John Carpenter or John. Use Comedy but this is actually just like an eighties movie. That's like feels more like seventies movie but in the eighties. And it's like when I think about these movies. I mean this is really like my friends older brothers like when I think about like eighty five. I was like a little young but this is what they were like kind of you know they were so that was. The thing is when you guys were like. Hey we have you on this remarkable schedule for these upcoming movies and I went. Okay and Don I go. You guys know I've never seen vision quests yesterday's the first time I've ever seen it and sometimes things happen like I'm not one of those assholes that somehow takes pride and never seeing a star wars. You're like okay. You WanNa really miss out on one of the most iconic things like honesty in the history of man. You weren't going around. Just like yeah. I haven't seen video. Never seen it no interest you know like people get like arrogant about not seeing stuff that everybody's seen understand so that wasn't what this was and I was. I was a little worried. His Chris is just so good. It's an eighties movie. That doesn't know it's an eighties movie. Do you have these written out like their index card. I wrote that down just to remember found analogize right. Can I push back on the wrestling wrestler with with? Mickey Rourke is a great wrestling that is fresh norris. He's talking wrestling was Fox catcher amateur. Yeah that was. That movie is win. Win was the other one. Win-win was pretty good. Yeah so I think vision is better than the eighties movie part of it. I go back and watch us and go my God. This is like every every movie and it's based on a novel called Vision Quest and the whole time you're like how the hell do they get the title Vision Quest? How did that happen? And at the end my notes I go worse title movie ever like did it make any whatsoever will but Kuch says at one point park no cuccia. I think the title is good. You like the native American little I just like. He's on a vision quest. He's eighteen. He doesn't know who he is yet and he decides that this is the way they talk about it in this movie is everybody's watching is like of course vision quest and that's not the case that's what I felt like. There was a few things at the end. Were and I was reading the WIKIPEDIA summery after I've watched the movie and I think is that really what happened. Were wait a minute. Summary seems to be so much lear. What happens in this movie because it does like a lot of eighties movies like okay? I get it all right. That's the bad guy but if you start at the beginning the keys a loser like people don't like him once you once you start a movie with your main character sitting by himself at lunch and I know what that's like 'cause I went through a couple of years in high school. It's a tough stretch. You did well. Yeah it was weird. I mean I moved to end star weekend hotel bar to bar. Thanks for Listening Burger but I yeah when I moved to. Martha's inner my Sophomore Year. It was like a month into this year and it was funny because I had been popular pretty much my whole life going up to that and then for two years. I was Sola lunch guy but I was self-aware Solo launch guy was like hey I know I'm just a loser I was just like how do these people don't realize how cool I am and I just I give this two years of this when I see Modine Solo? I'm like okay. This kid sucks. What's a movie with? No bad guys. Who'd is set up as a bad guy but he's actually pretty good like he's just. This guy was a state champion and this guy wants to make a running them. He's not really intimidating. First Time we see him. He's carrying up a football stadium with a log. How hard would that be really big? I think that's why you guys asked me just want to ask you about some of the workout this movie. What do you mean? He wasn't intimidating. I thought he was pretty intimidating. But not mean he's not like Cobra Kai he's not the classic Eighty Scorecard. Rip Your Balls. The best part about shoot also is his casual outfit. Is just the Canadian Tuxedo. He's just going Jean Jacket and jeans. As you vary again in eighty-five but he's just like when he's not carrying a log up an arena steps. He looks like John Mellencamp. Well the the funny thing is Modine Louden Swain. What a name. By the way. She may be the bad guy in this. He's he's totally selfish teams in place. He's there one ninety Guy Roux's up one day he ruined Kuch. Yeah in two minutes. Then he goes down to one sixty eight. Oh sorry. So they have to navigate all these weight classes. Meanwhile get nosebleeds. He costs them the Thompson. Hi or the Whatever that match was when he lost Lewis Smith because he's bleeding all over the place because he has no wait on right yeah And then and it's a big thing where that Bigeye Auto. And he's going he does a you think you're bigger than the team like. He does a yelling stuff and individual sports right there. He's kind of kind of a Dick. Yeah that's kind of one of my first conclusions. I mean it's a lot like a karate kid except with wrestling because Danny was an asshole like machos character like he was. I always try to kicked off the soccer team reason. Yeah I always joke that like honestly you go back and look at that movie when you're older you like hope was right. Yeah don't so I Cobra Kai guy but in this one you know moldings weird is like. I don't know that again. I would have consumed this differently in eighty five when that was when you really start like kind of getting into some of these movies you like what's going on here. I like at least for me. 'cause I was ten. You know you're you're starting to think about gender differently and all that kind of stuff. But I wouldn't have picked up on any of this stuff back then but there's like I mean at one point. Modine is hanging out with his chef buddy. Because he's he's a room service guy at this hotel. I think the spokane part of it is really important because this off the grid town and the wrestling part of it is like a big deal but when he's just sits down it's like I'm going to be an astronaut gynecologists like what's like he's just writing editorials about female anatomy for school paper and one girl is like great idea this rape case son is dad comes as what are you working on and be like. Oh school paper. Oh what's the topic? The clitoris like this movie does some weird stuff where his dialogue is not the predictable. Eighty Coen brothers movie and like everybody else is just in his sports movie. He's just like I want to be a space gynecologist. Like you're saying but it's important to put that in the context of the mid eighties because most of these mid eighties characters are not kinda deep thinkers like that and kind of way out there. The heroes of these movies are just as people like. I just want to date the best looking girl in the school and be good on the soccer team or whatever and he's got this whole weird fucking thing and he's wracked with doubt about that. He hasn't accomplished anything yet at age. Eighteen and then the classic eighties trope of the Hacker that moves into his house. Karla Karla where it's like. Oh man I mean think about like weird science I how many different movies from that air as just somebody trying to get laid by the unattainable person every eighties movie. Yeah sure thing was another. It's a great combination of two. That are pretty much loss to eighties. Which is the weird science hot girl shows up in my house meets. Working Class High School sports movie so wildcats this all. The right moves where it's like. You know my life's not going in a lot of different directions. I really only have sports but even deep down I kind of know. This isn't going to turn out to be. I'm Joe Montana like I'm just hoping to get out of a good parallel because I do feel like and we're talking about this ten-year sports moving. It's eleven years from longest yard the first great sports movie ever. And then we start going. We hit rocky. We'd slapshot. The bad news bears one bad news bears and breaking training which is an all time classic Semi tough northbound forty and we start going through the sports fast-break one on one become the basketball movies. I should say Pittsburgh Johnny B good was off the radar. You only took on recruiting. So they're hitting every sport and by nineteen eighty five. They're like wrestling. What about high school breaking away. There's race they're hitting every sport with the same kind of underdog rising to the occasion and and defeat define the ads kind of plot and this was really by about eighty five. They had run out. And then we have like the whole era after that that's coming rookie of the year and And then we have like the comedy era. Where like majorly unnecessary roughness. But we're still in that zone of like everybody going while rocky made three hundred million dollars. Yeah got nominated for Oscars version of this in. You're right because there was a greediness to all of those. St Louis is a good movie. I still stand by it. I don't know what your Johnny B good was because I actually now that I've said I don't think it falls into the category of this year later six. That was Anthony Michael Hall China not to be a nerd anymore. Yeah he was. I thought he was cool in the movie. Carla watching this for the first time in his as I do this and I loved it. Linda Fiorentino again research on her great Great I love that. She has two different data bursts speaking of wrestling that true. I looked at up to yeah curious her first movie ever I. She got it on the first audition the whole thing. She'd never been anything before you could tell at times. Yeah and yet. I'm at home being like okay. What's going to happen? Are they going to do the like I? Don't know if he was going to close the deal. And that was Kinda GonNa Wind. Up with tanner an older sage even though she was only twenty one and he was eighteen. And she's staying in this house for a little while like I'm at home being. Are you have place a bet? Like does he ended up kind of weirdly dating her. Yeah because that's what eight movie would normally tell you do. It's almost like I let today's movies get in the way of like No eighties he's going to hook up with her like stop asking the question today. I'd be like maybe there's some sort of lesson that he learned this and there's just this odd weird tension likely own the professional the it has the other mid eighties thing that we talked about the breakfast podcasts that we just did where this is the MTV Miami Vice era like the peak and music has to be invest. There has to be a couple montages in this movie. Does that as well as anybody like? He Pins Kuch at the beginning to get one seventy and then it immediately cuts to the journey song him rate running with John Wayne high on the John Waits on climbing the pegs. The lunatic fringe rate. Is He's about to do shoot and it and they play. It's navigating really times right crazy for you. Perform live ones. And then it just comes back twice and that's another really mid eighties ish thing. It's early overseas uniform Madonna. Yeah Yeah as good. As she's arrogant elect Madonna. That was weird because Madonna Madonna's playing a local club. And then then you're Kinda like. Is this what it would be like to be a high school senior instrumental area in nineteen eighty-five or it's like okay? I'm going to get done with class. Maybe I'll head over to tappers beers baggers properly teacher. English teacher buys me MICHELOB. Bigger is there a bigger power move than just sloppy ribs at a busy bar before I start? Firing on chicks. I'm going to throw back a couple racks. Risk Browse and a wet wipe from my fingers. Shana rump. He keeps like me like when the teachers like have some ribs or whatever shoes just like. He thinks that his weight loss loud. Sorry loudon things that his weight loss damage the Cuban missile crisis. He's like you here. I'm trying to drop down to one. Sixty eight and the teachers like yeah. I don't give a shit. You know what I mean stuck. You're in spokane. Reading Gerard. Manley Hopkins took a fifteen year old. I would say it's a precursor to this generation. We're not like the SELFIE narcissists generation. Latin was way ahead of his time. If he was doing this. In Two thousand twenty he would be instagram. His weight loss he'd be running spokane holding on wasn't even a real burner. It was almost like beyond meat cleaver elmo man highschool video sixty eight right and that guy's firing a dart while he's handling his burger and then he gets mad at. Modine for not using the fun. I mean think about it. That was that was impossible burger and then loudon takes it off the Bun and their look. The weight loss thing is from minute one the whole movie. Yeah entire movie is just like is this. Guy GonNa hit his weight. Well you're you know about lifting weight and stuff going from ninety to sixty eight. What's that drop into? It depends on who you're like. Okay so I was incredibly skinny. My whole I couldn't keep a pound on me and it just wasn't going to happen until like eventually filled out and then when I hit puberty at twenty six my shoulders you know started expanding a little bit and then but I I would like to twenty to twenty five now depending on the day. I have the the type where I could get down to two ten like that. You have to wear rubber suit. No well I wouldn't want to. I like so I'm used to seeing regular suit. Is that something you and it's just it's just water so eventually I like. I don't know that the the rubber sue eventually like that's why I kept having bloody noses all the time because you're just lower although he was unbelievable like he's just got an iron DPL levels. Just touch off. I can't believe in nineteen eighty-five nobody's back is loudon doing blow. I didn't know like watching a movie I go. Is there going to be some weird cancer ending? Yeah like I didn't know what was going on so To get to one ninety in highschool to one sixty eight in the early looks pretty skinny and we can get to some of the weight stuff. 'cause I started researching it after the phone. Ninety seems unrealistic for him. He doesn't look in with he's tall. And Maybe Sam being one ninety when he's thirty years old but at age eighteen to be six. One one ninety. You'd have to be pretty cut. At that point. There are other people that at one ninety could be impossible impossible for like even lose not impossible but you know what I mean like. Somebody's frame at one ninety. They'd never be able to lose anyway. Let's get the fut- so this is a flawed re watchable isn't we all really liked this movie and people is probably like well? Why is this a flawed re watchable? Why is it a remarkable? Well it's watchable because it's the greatest wrestler of everyday iconic mutatis. The flaw is he basically tries to commit sexual assault of Karla glossed over. He's so sexually frustrated and he's mad that he thinks she might be dating his teacher getting involved with or whatever and he just kinda snaps and throws her on the bed and commits a sexual assault briefly and she needs them in the balls and gets away. And then it's like Oh cool. Sorry about that and moves on and it's even in the mid eighties. It didn't really sit right. It was a pretty strange scene. Yeah and I think they were. It's such an easy edit. I'm amazed film different versions of it so I think part of it is that you're just supposed to think that this is a kid is just completely consumed by hormones right. He's constantly talking about is like his is constant erections yeah female anatomy and all this stuff so while I get not tried to excuse it at all and like the way that they shoot that scene Fiorentino's character. She's like. Don't ever fucking do that again. You know like she's she pre pre fears about it could've scaled back. Its efforts to watch so it was weird because they never seen it and it's there are certain things that just happened a little too fast. It were you go. We need like sit moment. Beat or a lesson here and she's over immediately yet It's not great. So that's the The movie at a two point five million dollar budget it made thirteen million Roger Ebert three and a half stars. I watched the assistance with it. Did he say about it? He's like it's such a like a realistic depiction of small town. Life and stuff of previous pretty into. He was also a big sports movie. Yeah he loves sports. We'll do the categories because there's just generally about the pedigree of the people making this movie which is really strange because when you watch it you're like this is this would be like. Espn Ocho movie of the week. Kind of like. It's just like Wrestling Movie Kid. It's Herald Becker. Who GOES ON? He made taps and he would go into McMahon Alison City Hall and taps was a really respectively envy. That broke a lot of young actors. Tim Hutton Sean Pan. Tom Cruise is so he his stock was pretty high and then Darryl read the screenplay is the guy wrote the novel the last detail is based on and it was produced by John. Peters Impure Guber essentially from Bruckheimer and Simpson the biggest producers of the eighties and early nineties. The Rain Man Batman like so this is like this weirdly heavy hitter movie even though it seems like this sort of like forgotten cult classic and another movie. That's in the same. I think it's even the same year. American Fires Costner. Which is an incredible cycling movie Same kind of thing really. Well done the kind of movie that it had taken. The idea of a sports moving brought it up a notch and was just elaborate. You known well acted and had characters and things like that We're in a break. Then we'll do the categories. Hey with you're watching new movie. Are We watching old movie? The sound quality can make or break your viewing experience. 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I think one of the keys to this movie is it's got really distinct rewatch. We'll see as we mentioned Latin dropping to one seventy eight beating Kuch. Yeah and then it immediately kicking into journeys only the young a good journey song. Yeah I I don't think it's a top five journey song but it's in the discussion for you know if you're going to do your top ten. It's just good. It's a nice little kickin. The next one would be carrying the log up the steps them going to everyone. They're going to see him like he's bigfoot. Yeah I heard they have no idea okay. We're shoot always outside climbing the stairs. Log Okay Yeah let's go. We'll say it was cold. Apparently that day and they put glycerine on his face to make. It look like sweat. Oh really yeah sunny out. She plays for heap hot wrestles for Thompson is that is high school tops on some shoots for Columbia than yeah. Wait a minute Colombia or the Purple Columbia's can't remember shoot. Looks like he is practicing inside the Rose Bowl so I would be curious to know what their football program is. What's so college football stadium situation in Spokane Well women Washington Seattle and then Washington. State's the police so fifty thousand stadium in the log. I don't know man I didn't even Larry Bird wasn't doing that in the it was hollowed out. I did a lot of. I did a lot of frank. Jasper shoop loudon. Next watch seeing loudon goes to see shoot and the crowds chanting. Shoot SHOOT SHOOT. Any pens a guy in ten seconds. And everybody's standing it cuts back and landed just sitting in his seat like. Oh my God what the fuck just happened. He's also tape. He's taking notes the best part. That's the sneaky. Like loud and sitting there. He's by himself and these watching shoe and then all of a sudden a little microphone opens up like he's Roger Sterling Madman dictating his biography. Going okay shoot. He's out there. And you're like low leverage lift. I don't think you honestly hear Zag. I don't think that that guy loud and would be able to afford a tape recorder at that point truck. What if he bought it from the library though Probably still probably saw it lifted weights. Decade's loud install in junior high. I know we talked about it but I'm just so impressed by what they did was shooting this movie. Where he's just mysterious but he's not a villain. He's not typical shitty eighties villain. That is in all these movies. He's just honestly like they presented like the shark in jaws or something he's just kind of circling around in your just gaining fears. You Watch him and his his high school band used to play play. The jaws theme did they. Yeah there's a little jaws theme in there as he stopped and so Frank. Jasper who was the character. Yeah Hafez save it for half assed I keep forgetting the categories. Yeah I think bill does too. I listened to the Sundance Wind. I felt so much better after listening to the once upon a time in Hollywood re watchable from Sundance where both Sean and Chris were like. Now what are you doing? Yeah I go okay so nobody knows what the next watchable seeing loudon climbing the wall with. John Wade's change in that. Whole thing. The coaches like this is don one sixty. It's over and he comes back out. I'd of the big guys like you think you're better than US does that whole thing. And you're gonNA keep player you never were. You OUGHTA team sport with another quicker bathroom Nelson. The song kicks in and he's climbing the wall. What is I can't do that. He went over auto immediately. I've thought now that there should be this peg board installed here at the ringer. So like if Chris Ryan comes up and he goes you know the good job with the podcast. Everything Chris I'd like to could we reach out to like Michelle Obama Iran and then bill goes. Hey Look Chris like congrats on everything in your life to this point but like. Let's be real here if anybody's getting Michelle Obama. It's going to be your boy Billy Simmons and then Chris runs out in the courtyard here at our studios. And there's a peg board. And he goes all the way up and it gets the top jobs down and then bill goes. Looks like you get your self analysis. Yes firstly basically what the board represents is that whatever you think is impossible if you can climb up this beg board then everybody immediately has your back even if they've been shitting on you for two hours in a move fantasies yelling at you that you think you're bigger than the rigor that it's the guy can't do that podcasting as an individual smart. It's not about you. It's about the pot. And then he turns down to two fantasies like it's bigger than that and vision quest so we'll get Michelle Obama okay next one. Latin loses by medical default to Louis. Beth so pissed off they really created with the white names here not so much as the leading us. Yeah but the black names like Louis Smith at loudon. Shoot the half native American kid. Yeah Oh Louis. Myth avenues I don't think they should have stopped it. I didn't agree with it Russell. Kosta there's also a way out of where he's wrestling at one seven point now she's basically bleeding constantly constantly bleeding so and he has constant erections and falling apart and one thing. That's really interesting is. There's so much of an emphasis put on weight loss in this movie that you never really see much technique work like I know. He does some wrestling practice stuff. But you're just kind of like never clear. How good loudon is it wrestling? All I know is he's good at losing weight now. I thought the wrestling part of this is really good. Like clearly. Modine's and athletes. Yeah he showed him with his professor there and they were just touching it like the first thing you can just tell immediately. The Way Guy touches a basketball okay. Modine's like played a little bit Bachelor Prank Line Today. His latte pull down. Forum is the worst fucking form in the history of lap holdouts. Okay it's so incredibly bad. It was as if the contest was. Who here onset wants to do this thing where it looks like. You're the least familiar with this exercise in Modine's like I got it and he starts just doesn't have enough weight on it and instead of like pulling it down to one place you're supposed to bring in front of your chest. He swinging it down so that the way actually smashes the top of the rack and then he drops it just repeating it and it reminds me like I remember one time. My Dad who I love you know. He's a big guy and he didn't have enough weight on lap pulled on things so he started just like ripping it and some lady was like. I don't think you're doing that right to him. And My dad was like Nano Weight and I go dad you like. You don't know what did you use. Can Relax on this thing. And Yeah what. Modena's their setback lap. Pull down for a decade. We've done so maybe wash people's podcasts. Quentin Tarantino has been in a room with us. And I've never seen Craig. This has let it's that bad. I'm not overstating this like. You'RE GONNA if you haven't seen the movie you're going to see that seen go. Wow Yeah it's tough. They could fix it and I never understood. I've never understood like weightlifting in movies TV shows. Where like if it's like a jail scene in it's a gang. Yeah and it's like okay. Let's look heavy hitters thug. Life across the apps you know cigarette in the ear and the guy's ripping out like ninety five pounds on the fucking incline and I'm supposed to be afraid of these guys limited access to to to wait. You just put more weight on the bar or like the guy who's like in the garage and he's about to become a killer and you're like all right guys really deranged. And he's got like San filled plastic. Wait things from sears. Any and he's rep it out like eighty like well. Hey get back to me in a couple of months and then I'll be more intimidated by this character. Hollywood has forever fucked up weightlifting. Not like I'm some genius about it but just fix it. Have a guy come by and looks so stupid. Well it sounds like so. I always wanted to be the sports Louis Console. That's right WanNa be the weight training consultant. You WANNA be all prison. Movies like be the easiest job. It'd be like okay. What do you guys half your be like? WE'VE GOT A couple twenties? No Pink can we get some forties and make them black all right. My Job's done next reliable. Seen Elmo's big speech guy the story the Palay story. Here's somebody is. It's not that big a deal. I mean it's six lousy minutes on the mad if that Haley. He's a soccer player. Race famous soccer player room here one day watching Mexican channel on TV. Nothing about Palay watching what this guy can do it. A A ball on his feet next thing I know he jumps up in the air flips into a somersault saw kickable in upside down and backwards. Goddamn golden every new fuck him excitedly Rufus Jersey especially around the stadium waving around over his head. Everybody screaming Spanish In my room stocks Ryan start crying because another human being species which I happen to belong to kick a ball lift himself. The rest of US sat as human beings up to a better place to be. If only for a minute let me you. It was pretty goddamn glorious six minutes. What happens in it? I used to when I my old site even before I got. Espn one. I think like the fifth the fifth calm I ever was the thirty best sports movies of all time and one of the key things that had for the sports movies the chill scene and it was like if you wanna be like in the highest level of sports movies. There has to be chosen. There has to be the rocky run the steps you have to have in this movie almost big speech or whatever and if you don't have the scene in the movie it just feels like something's missing. Rosie Perez Jeopardy Rosie Press This won't be as a couple of choices but this speech you just by the enervate. You're like Oh manic. Now I'm really ready batch AIDS. It's done as well as it can be kind of like it's awesome because it just hearkens back to a different era sports on television or sports in people's lives were that was probably like why wide world of sports or the World Cup and he was watching it on a shitty like black and white. Tv and like you know like access to like global sports like that was pretty limited and to have him articulated in that particular way is like actually like a very perfect articulation of what makes sports grant the six minutes now. It's what happens in the sixth minute which is one of the most dramatic lines in movies. Now like if you think of all the data like you know. Sometimes I just miss my friend. Yeah or like mcgruder. You've been shot right now some of the really all-time Lines Gruber John. I the the scene is so good that it almost doesn't fit in the rest of the way and the setting of it is perfect. Here's this guy. Who'S THE CHEF at the hotel? It's dumpy or hotel I imagine you know. And he's he's always firing a dart in the back and they arm wrestle. And there's this awesome. Like it's a really good bonding thing. It's more of a character as a father than his actual father in the movie and the new role in the is still has toilet paper stuck to his face. Re-cut himself shaving. He's got this beat to hell white button down. You know. It's the only one is probably the only tie owns a couple empty bud heavy cans hanging onto the back. And then I can't tell if that's some sort of tonic or an empty bottle of whiskey or like a again after she aftershave or Bourbon fairly any lights on everywhere in this J C Quinn guys like elmo right yeah I called in sick to come watch you wrestle because of the six minute thing and it. It's a great. It's great detail because the movie because loudon would know if you call in sick you. That's like twenty five percent of your paycheck like that. You're not you're not because you're going to get docked. Yeah to find out you know. It's also it's the end of this like this. I air sports movies. A lot of them had the speech and in ways that they actually would would get awkward where they're trying to work in this. But you know it's longest yard first one ever any pulls everyone. Its fourth down. It's the last. Play in Reynolds runs back to the sidelines in there. Like where's it going? And they'll vote around him and he does. That speech is like we've gone too far stabbed now for granted for nate for caretaker. Let's do it and then every movie after that was trying to recreate that's Yangchen rocky had it all the way through. This is probably the best. Victory has the Palay with are about to escape. And he's like hatch. Please you know how that just means to us but then everybody started. Everybody started doing it in non-sports movies like there then became this chill eighties. Movies were was the nurse revenge of the nerves. You know like all of the were having this moment where it was. Okay we a montage. We did the bad guy. We did. The smoke show eighties. Blonde that everybody's trying to get after and then it's like okay but we are we twenty minutes to the end of the movie where everybody. Sit Right. It's the best version of the hardest thing about these speeches to actually write those speeches and character a lot of times. You'll have somebody who's like not particularly articulate or is really complicated or whatever and then all of a sudden he turns into Robert Frost happens. I thought that happened a little bit. Even though it's like completely gripping the Billy Bob Thornton speech in the movie version of Friday Night Lights were all of a sudden. He's just like like. Put this person in your heart. You're about to live forever all this stuff like this guy didn't say shit like this throughout the entire movie truth but this is like feels pretty accurate to what Elma would be able to muster and this weird detailing. It's so good. It's like if you were to say okay and then we're GonNa have this emotional scene where this movie's it goes in so many different directions. Sometimes it goes too fast sometimes. It doesn't really explain anything. You mentioned the scene with Carla. He also sniffs panels. And that's like that and you're like Carlos really forgiving I I can't you right Kris. I can't imagine outlying being like all right. We're going to have the shorter cook here. He's going to do this. Pay thing and teach them life lesson. It's all gonna hit asking to make sense. Iran hired you. Know what that's like like the way back to Ben Affleck movie. What is the pro? The Promo for that right now is kind of their chill moment. And that's what we're hearing and that so far from the Promo of it I'm like Oh that's really good. Looks like hey they're going to be better than you? They probably have a better coach but they haven't been through the shit. We've been through that say to see that movie movie. I like sports movies and I like when they have these moments like that. When we do a quick way back digression what he's supposed to have turned down a full ride to Kansas. That guy in the trailer originally called the been right. So he's he's supposed to be heinrich like how old how what class would have been with like Paul Pierce until you're trying to figure out if he played with rape before Paul Pierce Okay. It's like mid Nineties Post Post Danny Manning. Okay it's when things fell apart a little bit. The the speech people keep trying and trying to top Elmo for years and then finally Pacino does it in any given Sunday and that's the best version of the speech and he really earns it because his character that whole movie caring about the big picture football and people and then it all pays off in that but I think this is one of the great speeches. Modine is in any given Sunday. This is on the Mount Rushmore for me for sports movie speeches. That Pacino Burt Reynolds longest yard. And I don't know what the fourth one is after about it but Next watchable seeing Carlos showing up in the locker room after she's disappeared they had sex. Then she decides you know it'll be cool if I leave two days before the big match. That's not GonNa fuck loud enough at all. He'll be fine that takes off. I got a paragraph. She comes back. You didn't even think of look if it hadn't left like I did. You wouldn't even be here. You're ready to forget the whole thing. You want me to say thank you Sandy. Loudon just think people ought to do what they set out to do. And she's like sorry leads but then the lunatic fringe starts ladder. Disaster allowed kick his ass when he goes to jump that whole expertly executed for eighties movies. Stater I really the big final matches great saucer some scoring issues. That will go into great shows scene at the end for me. Most watchable scene is almost speech. Yeah me too. I I'm also partial to change with John. Wayne in the in the said that'd be like I mean to really iconic eighty cents. I I'm just going to switch it up a little on on some of the scenes. Yeah because his constant like every now and then when you think you have modine figured out in this you're like what what are you doing right you know. And when they went on the drive to and father's house squeeze when when he was like. Look you need to see grandfather. Apparently his grandfather lives in fucking Mexico and they were like. Where's he live He's like always gonNA cabin in the woods. They had struck. You're going to sleep in the woods. Campau struck just tops out at thirty one miles per hour. Like that's really really good point. And then he just. He starts like dropping an age. I get a ton of wet dreams. The Nice thing about working out a lot of nocturnal emission like wet dreams. Great Way to wake up. If you did just a list of the seven weirdest things he'd be I'd hate this guy to joker line of the woods age the best I like. I like Kuch saying YOU'RE OUT OF VISION. Quest man you're trying to find your place in the circle. I don't know what that means. But as as people who listen to podcasts. No I love when title into Dialogue Your Vision Graceland. You're trying to find your place in the circle movie your visual growing up back. Then you had to say the titles like when it's the Shawshank redemption the heat around the corner. Another what stage the best early Madonna. The fact that she's in this movie and we didn't do enough of the backstory. This where the producers are like this. This is going to be a big star. We gotta work her in. They film this thing with their. She becomes a huge star and then by the time this movie came out there marketing Madonna almost more than the wrestling Rathi. Modine think we've hit the lottery. We it would be the equivalent of like having Billy Alisher a movie right now multiplied by a hundred would be if I mean I guess you could say that. That is the case with the bond movie the bill list the Song Ford but the video for this and this was a huge song. Right is just vision. Quest footage right. It's just them slow dancing and him training and you're just like that was on like eighteen times. A day on empty was on like it was crazy. I think people probably know this Movie Way. More as the music video for crazy for you then then the movie itself and unfortunately. I felt like it overshadow gambler. A Little Bit Kasama. Gambler gambler didn't really break through and get away. And I just I would think Madonna and eighty five but again if it was filmed in eighty. Three places busier. Modine's a high school kid and he rolls right into this. Yeah they're not checking. Id's or eighteen. Well the the drinking age I have to imagine. 'cause I think Vermont was like the last holdout and then the federal government do this now. Because I had this for picking nets well it sounds like you WanNa do it now but I think we should get over a hot route. She's in spokane. Yeah but she's talented. Obviously talented pop singer the most overqualified for that bar probably you could possibly get. She's rattling off crazy for you and gambler in the middle of nowhere in Washington. Just guys like probably like the life are alcoholics and then people were just eating ribs and she's playing. Hey these glistening pop in Hollywood she should be like the viper room or Carla Madonna Madonna. Because he's Karla okay too. But the the Madonna thing is. We're because you'd think that that bar would be just like almonds all the time. It's just playing. I would just think they would be. I don't know football games on the TV. And they're not at all Seattle Supersonics basketball game fans planning. Why do they even have live music? It's a fucking sports bar. Yeah feels like like when Stephanie at the northside tavern outside of Boquete he can I pick a are? We doing nitpicks or knowing that third. Damn it So many two soundtrack journey we have Madonna. We have John Wait. Reo speedwagon foreigner. Sammy HAGAR QUARTER FLASH HARD OF MY HEART's in the background. Reo speedwagon red rider with lunatic fringe. Style Council Berlin. No more words Berlin. No more words also in the crowd a kid and entailing Aaron did the score. Danger did rights. It's really a great soundtrack. I was actually looking at looking at it on spotify thinking. That's probably has the highest batting average of any mid eighties soundtrack. I would guess right by the way overseas and was called the crazy for you movie. Capitalism Donohoe Net more another would stage the best really good jogging scenes a laker watch out of the spokane. The skyline and the mountains and the bridge bridges in an alliance bridge. Yeah they really beat the bridge in the ground and then cast just a lot of not only the people we've mentioned but Daphne's Iniquez in it. She's greatness coming off share thing and then Heading toward Joe as melrose place which I know you probably had some thoughts on. I love seeing her net. I just issue so supportive. Im- cheese in IT early on like rice show. She expresses interest in love with you. She's the one he should have dated. She's vision quest booth. Vision was to identify the winds up with March. Fishing quest to. That's he's just in jail forest whittaker he's dead from notorious Whitaker's in this yeah and no usage rate at all low real. You see that's honest at the of the all STAR CAST. Oh Yeah Harold Sylvester who were in covering the second coup? Who is the the honk from sixteen candles? Who Jake in my on my wife's Mount Rushmore? And so he was a former model became an actor and was out of the business by the way it is. Now and then Ronny Cox going to the great eighties. Imdb runs Beverly Hills. Cop told recall whole bunch of them and then That's all I have. Do you have any other words? Really love like just the eighties Locales so the supermarket where they go shopping. All the tide boxes fallen him really good-looking high school like very accurate. Eight high school. I thought yeah I do have a question about whether did you guys have a high school radio station. That made a pretty gossipy announcements during lunch. That's an eighties movies that exist in real life. But it's like. Hey Bill Simmons taken about writing a column for the school paper. We'll have to see how that pans out Sammy. Hagar it's like what the fuck is going on. Russillo Russillo asked out Darcy Thursday. That went poorly fillers. Loaded hanging out with your friends about that. Salad Bar Bro. You know had that too when they were at high school. Where Don and David had the morning radio show. That was just class. Yeah what is the underutilized? Do the right thing. Has IT RESERVOIR DOGS? Kinda has it although there are talking about what's happening in the movie obviously the warriors had. It's really good to just be like. Hey Word on the street. Ryen RUSSILLO AND BILL. Simmons are going to Sweet Green. What what is another one though? The warriors went actually works in like seems important to the story line. It's not gleaming the cube look how baseball volume just radio and YOU WANNA be on that one volume that this year. We should pivot to pirate radio. I'd rather hold up gleaming the cube. We're doing Divine because in invented podcasting while maybe yeah no no no. I'm not disputing areas. The first podcast. I think I'm going to wait until we should be getting royalties for the ring. Give it all. I've said yes to this many without doing fear. But that's another topic. Well I have a surprise for you surprised. Asman on camera. This is innate. Eight episode flawed rewatch. Ables with fear is going to be one of the eight. Why's it in the flawed flawed? We're talking about what you just like random. Just off the grid one percenters hanging out with high school people like Hey. What do you want to go to the mall? Let's go to that. Meth House with thirty year olds. That's better what's age. The worst we mentioned the louden Carla in the basement was horrible. There's some weird gay undertones with this that? I don't talk about the Tai Chi I don't know how much of it is. It was just a theme of a lot of eighties movies. Are It's the second and they're trying to do. Essentially opens with like a a homophobic seen. Yeah yeah there's like some gay panic stuff but I don't know whether that's trying to tie into. He's just a teenager right. Hormones raging just trying to figure out life but if you go there's some pieces written about it where people feel like there's a lot of underlying stuff we don't need to go into that casting what-ifs confining who would you put it. Do you have any you know. I had Michael J. Fox as as shoot to issue is Carla column chicken recasting couch. I actually liked all the actors yes I wouldn't I wouldn't change any we have some crews would have been an interesting loudon. I don't think he pulls off the horn worth. He's five three two right. I think Carlos character even though ended up liking her. You can almost see her improvement from the beginning of when she first comes onto the screen to the end because in the anxious. Yeah like her and it's her first movie so it's not to be critical of her but it's if it's a real movie it's getting made right out of the jump you're like okay we it. You're a little rough around the edges Jesus she's like where are you from? Trenton? And you're like Okay Trenton. Good pick their rough. You know she's robin she was from Philly Anyway. So it's Kinda close to trend and then I don't know what happens. I don't know what happens in the course of however ten thirteen weeks. Shoot this towards the end. It's more believable. So whatever whatever. She was going there to be rough. It was like she oversold it so much that you kinda like like. Oh this is. This is a little weird and then I looked it up like the first movie ever in my found the movies over. She's just a more believable character in every single way. Yeah I I was going to put this later. But I'll just do it. Now they should have just had Madonna. Ankarlo be the same character says San Francisco to become a singer. A car breaks down. She's moving to become an order cheese. If she's singing in the Madonna scenes and he's watching her sing that pushes like his love for her to another level. We never see her singing once. She's this alleged Karla Karla. She's a painter. I thought she was. She wants to be a painter. She watched this. I thought she wanted to be a singer going to become a painter. He's what kind of canvas paint. Yeah why do that too but I thought she also sang now though see. She said the beginning shoes singer. Now man scrap it. Sorry was like a director's cut on Amazon is a town where they go to characters. Oh Yeah Yeah sure actually think. That's like an incredible. That's a two for one. Say Pain pop singer. Why she's staying with Widens Dad because her van broke down on tours at you're saying or she just wants to get Singye breakdown. What that scene is really quickly like so key shows that agreed. Sink GARAGE. A car salesman. Who Ronny Cox is working for? Yes tries to sell Carla eliminate or has sold. Carl has sold their lemon. Grinding Cox is like gets a piece of shit and so she punches the salesman punch. I think keypunch this remember. Yelich bandage on his name. He's like you're fired from my car. Lot Okay I got. It is not easy to break. I was like what the hell they give you. Two things where he's supposedly hit the guy because his boss sold a lemon to this girl from Trenton. Carla who's like full tank top obviously cold and it's like we're just going to show you sex immediately with this character is now. They're going to be like Horny Modine's like Hey dad. Can we keep her money? Needs to be like it with the basket as best that guy. Joey pants best that guy. Joey pants a word Herald Sylvester. Yes tanner an incredible Imdb run he was Dc DEYSI in fast break my favorite movie of all time he was the NBA star. An inside moves a movie. Neither of you've seen No. He plays for the Golden State Warriors. I'M GONNA force you guys to watch this movie shirts. It's nine hundred eighty. It's great but he's on the Golden State Warriors the bartender who's at this bar of cripples and he hurt his knee the cripples. Get all this money together to get this guy try out. He ends up making the warriors. And there's all these scenes with him on the warriors with Robert Parish and Purvis short and all these fucking out of control. He's a big Big Hillstreet Blues Guides. Here right yeah. And he was officer and a gentleman too he and his the guy that Richard Gere stills this thing so he was kind of I would say the Omar EPPs of this generation where we need a black guy. The every movie has worn black guy in it through Herald Sylvester. Let's grab him again right and he's playing basketball early and you can tell he played. I imagine the scenes with the warriors are good enough like they're passing fast-break right. No look shocked right now. Yeah Oh man. Sorry is the most politically incorrect sports movie ever made in. This was the case twenty years ago. It's like out of control. But I'm Gabe Kaplan Bernard King. Yeah I don't think I've seen it. Man is the poster rather years eighty seventy nine. Yeah so I'm four so you know there's certain things that happen where you miss it. Yeah like I. That doesn't happen. Gets his job in Las Vegas. This doesn't happen a lot. But you're just GONNA shut up. Take Small Basketball Job in Vegas. He's in New York. He wants to turn the program immediately any just builds around all these people who shouldn't be in college. I promise you elected imus meal. Watch it this week this week this week right now right when we leave. Let's let's pause the podcast all watch it now. Good Watch fast break. We're back to Vincent Hanna. They knew word for overacting. Yeah Got Zuniga here. Oh Yeah. I had coaches abusive dad. That's manager for Major League Bradley. Douse it up with your kid. You Ain't got no man you ain't got all the parties you got there. Just slaps the hell out of them. Were honestly slaps the native American out of after that I'd seen thing I'm doing fake like because he's running around with a Mohawk. He's got the motorcycle he's got the vast like he's he's Emmanuel division spirit. He's like actually German. That guy. Really Douse it up. So one of those Dan Waiters Award Elmo the chef. What about what about the Taichi Guy? Now go them. Oh chef okay. He has a pretty big scene. I have the Tai Chi coming up later. Kind of segment. That's going to blow your mind. Okay I'll just I'm GONNA. I'm just GonNa add this to the wrestling coach. The head coach. Yeah like that guy to always be in that singlet numerous times. Yeah like. That's a bit of Dion waiters. Moment when you go like hey you're going to run over here singler no single. Because I'll do it in the singlet like do it in the singlet. I think that he's just constantly in it and they'll have like a button-down underneath it. We should do it like a sweatshirt. I'd just wear a full sixers over like jeans and a sweater every day at work. And see how that yeah. Yeah just Riley's that will ferrell thing. When he played that character was that country guy and remember. This was not ricky. Bobby right no no. No this is when he was on. Snl and I know we're derail here bit but it's one of my favorite stories. Ever he did it with Conan and where he he had this bit where he was like this country guy. It was like the guy that was smoking the band with a trucker hat. The vast. What's going and he's the writers are like. Hey you're gonNA wear that out at the after party. He was like all right cool and then he's like and then they were like you should wear it all week where the pitch meetings in. Farrell's like all right this brilliant wearing it and then a long. I wore it. People kept wanting me to wear it more and more and he goes and finally out. Baldwin was there and seen me. He's like what is this. Your thing like the I would. I would stop doing this. He's like embarrassed going. I thought I was like this hero because I'd be doing errands in the middle of the Day New York City in this outfit. Still keep doing great anyway. Sorry I just love that story. Begin edit that out. No nothing including bill thinking they. Carl is a singer that has to stay half ASS Internet research. You mentioned. They changed the tattered crazy for you and a couple of countries. Here's what Modine said Madonna. A couple years ago. She looked like boy. George the producers are saying this girl was going to be such a big star but I remember being impressed Modine. Ouch Jesus shoot two hundred fifteen pound bodybuilder. Drop down a one. Eighty nine and two and a half weeks for a scene were filmed. You've you wanted to your shoot stuff now frank. Jasper yes so he was. He was like a trainer. Really Smart Guy and he was up to like two twenty five. So Craig was big on like the weight loss part of it so he never got the one sixty eight he's jacked. He's like one eighty nine but then they'd have like a scene where they go. Hey we need you to come back. And he'd be like back to twenty and then he had to like cut down again so we had to cut down a couple of different times in the way he even got the role as he found out. Like there is this this movie being filmed close to where he was and he was like all right. Maybe I can hang out. Like be a stuntman or whatever and somebody's wrestles so that's exactly what we need. A couple of the people they wanted is the then. It came down to be another guy. They essentially had like this thing. Where there was the producers and directors near like read these lines or like all right now do a move against him and now you do a move and was sort of a wrestle off and he won. I mean what better way to get a part where he wrestles he wins and then he wins. The part. The sad thing is is like he doesn't show a ton arrange now in the movie. Yeah so he moved. He moved to La right after and was like well. I think he's perfect acting wise for this part but he's also not a launching pad part. No it's it's the kind of thing was your if it was your buddy you'd be like I can't Holy Shit like this is amazing. Frank got it now. He's in this movie but then you would all talk shit behind his back when he moved to L. A. To become an actor right as you will right. Yeah Right. You'd be so jealous and enraged about happy when he came back and he failed two years later. 'cause you're like well you didn't really do anything except object. The Guy who played coach Michael Shuffling an accomplished collegiate wrestler won a gold for the US and freestyle wrestling as a member of the national junior wrestling team in the European Championships. In nineteen seventy eight so we had to actually scale it back to get his ass kicked by Modine in the opening scene. He was like he could've beaten Modine in five seconds. That's I mean he's another guy. There's nothing on shuffling he said. Yeah there's nothing on him like like I was looking to see how he hits. There's not even pictures of catalyst. Yeah he's fifty nine now and there's I can't find added a business like by ninety ninety one so apex house one more piece of research later like twenty five years later. Modine gives the interview. Spokane newspaper And he he tells the story goes. I was walking Venice beach. California recently in the driver of a car literally stepped out of his moving car and marched toward me saying Dude Dude. You have no idea. Vision quests save my life. His car smashed into a wall. He was so emotional. I gave him a hug. Forget about the car. Who CARES DUDE? You have no idea that guy was Bill Simmons Right. What's the story with Modine? Did you ever know him? Modine should be like four or five time bs guest talking Knicks. I'm lucky he got mad at me for something. He took something personally. Do you remember what was podcast? Was it about Pacific Heights now? It was a movie he made in the last six or seven years and I remember he came at me at twitter a little bit and I really right back at them with like. I'm a huge fan. What are you doing leg? It was one of those that got squashed. I think he thought I was making fun of them. But I wasn't were you so you've never had him on. Never had him on. He's he's I would love to have one because he was also in the band played on that I loved. There's something about Modena's actually like no one's ever GonNa say he's the best grade next fan but he's always kind a good life right and he also he's so different he's got this. He's got like the most relaxed viewer basketball player. Be Like how did I get? Twenty advocate was so slow and it didn't really matter milk. No No. He's totally controlled. It's this relaxed thing and it's like different. He's not doing anybody else. He's only doing it the way he does it and it works way more than it. Doesn't I in this movie? He's playing a selfish oversexed failed date rapist. To is the worst guy and his team. I don't think this is gonNA be abridged hoping we're on. You Run for the whole movie. Put it that way. No he but he's still doing modine right like I just like Modina men on this guy. picking nits. Oh No let's let's take a break and we'll do it. Picks man now that we're two months into two thousand twenty and everyone is trying to stick to their resolutions. 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Smoke can make Shuffling Spokane Michael Shuffling Jasper sixteen candles. Jasper is Frank Jaspers APEC mountain. Yeah would you call the thing? The wrestling coach wears singlet. The singlet apex about for the singlet. I always feel like the singlet Apex Mountain would always be that Saturday afternoon wrestling that we got his little kids growing up where we get hose you never get any good matches and then you know whatever like famous guy would come out and then it'd be like clue cliffs that guy that was singlet. John Wait it's either this or senate almost fire. I think it's well you mean John we in movies because I think missing you Burger Song Straight. That's John Wait is this. This was before or after the second I think. Nineteen eighty five was just his overall pick mountain would be my take. I misuse eighty four. Spokane it better than this. No I haven't ever get better for spokane than this movement. We'll hear about it if it did. Okay if enough about it so I out there who thinks it got better. I think it's at peoper movie men in black and then jazz like a nice little run there and then. She seriously doesn't do anything she does. One thing from. Oh Two until today. He's involved in Anthony. Pellicano case thinks she's pretty difficult she worked with our guy wishes from philly. Jade with Caruso. That's right it's me and Chris this guy it's like everybody as one. Guy Asif. Yeah I I remember one of the first time. I didn't think I liked. Bill was because of how much you like. Caruso. Oh Yeah and I remember Your Dad in your dad's say like hey. So what are you doing? You'RE GONNA. Usps well didn't Caruso try to do movies wasn't that your dad did so much right because when I went to go When I went to go work for Jimmy Kimmel. My Dad didn't understand it. He's a yearly Boston. To Take off. It took off and now you know where TV show. That might not make it. This is David Curse move. My Dad AC- later came to La. And then a couple years later I came back. I was bad right. Tvd We'll see how it goes picking nets. Can I go? I if you're from Trenton. And you're driving to San Francisco. That was my first. She's Chaikin. Why are you in Spokane? That doesn't even if she's hitchhiking doesn't make sense. I mapped it out last night than most northern you would go would be. Maybe Cheyenne and I think of is if she had a friend in Washington that she was veering completely greyhounds and get down to Seattle or wherever it is or stay with them. Instead of Horny Weird Modine. Yeah and underutilized. Dad Who apparently beats the shit of the people no matter what another Carlo. Picking Net is did she. She never wears the same thing twice. The exception of maybe the top everyday has a different jacket. The hat she looks now a real to them easier cases slower. She wearing the mothers close or just creepy. But that Zelda Fitzgerald. Look she has. Where did who has that just in a duffle bag? That she's hitchhiking shades nine suitcases. You know wonder it's been such a tough beat. She's Hitchhike and one second. I have all these steamers kick vintage clothing. I WANNA pack away. What the fuck is going on with his porter. Yeah exactly Red Cat So that was your first one. Because there's two ways to go and from Trenton to San Francisco. It would take thirty one or thirty three hours. The southern route is actually longer. I believe it's a classic eighties. Fuck never realizing that thirty. Five years later it would be picket this movie apart. Yeah they just fucked up so me going for. That was your first one. That's my first one by what I ever did. You think about that to think about the tournament when he loses to Louis Smith Ends with the match and the one seventy eight way class. I always thought it just went up until guts of the heaviest person. What what wrestling tournament ends with seventy as it just well known like one sixty eighth. Where all the guys are you there. I can't wait to see how matt somebody gets about. That's not there. There's some really weird scoring in the shoot ladder match where it's nine nine with about a minute left and then it jumps to thirteen to nine all of a sudden he's down four points to twenty seven seconds left when he gets a bloody nose. There's an extra two points in there that we don't see I really it's very upsetting. I don't know that I they shoot has a takedown at nine nine see when I was wondering any problems with the scoring. Shoot take down and it was nine nine so now eleven. Nine loud and bloody nose goes to the sidelines scoreboard thirteen nine. I thought those points worked out when I watched it last night. I didn't they didn't have. This is a nit-pick firm producer. Craig with this movie have been better. If he was gaining weight he had to go from one six nine. Here's the thing. I really Niro raging bull. I don't feel like Modine. Demonstrably loses a lot of weight in this movie. Which is a problem. Because it's supposed to be twenty pounds or thirty pounds so yeah different. Yeah so I take. It looks great. Net ones yeah. But if he's gaining weight it would have. You would have to do that. Over the course of the movie you'd have to go chronologically and have him gain but but you can be losing weight by always wearing baggy clothes always wearing the rubber suit and only at the very end. Do we really seem ripped. I'm just wondering on that thing. It wasn't there like a penalty point. Frazee bloody nose. I thought there was a penalty. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa be texting you later tonight because now we go over the scoring again any other pets so I was intrigued. Answerable question could be best quote. We've gone through most of them but shoots a monster zone father. He's alive where to keep them from fucking. The fireplace fucks a fireplace so much through man wine territory. Get Real father livewire to keep fucking the fireplace. Yeah I know about all that yeah. That's a good line. That's pretty great. Could this be remade as not like I love? I showed it to my mother. The first thing they do is down the press and the pants. I love your piece on the clitoris. I showed it to my mother. Yeah that was good great. Kuch doctor Nadda space or whatever that was doctor. Who's Dr Outer Space focused? This recognize it. Women coups and thinking very seriously becoming a gynecologist accused doctrine outer spaceman. You're flipping out. Want to be able to look inside. Women find the power that they have over me he goes from like hey. I'm going to be a doctor in outer space and I want to talk to the Martians. Like WHOA LIKE. There's just so many different lines Modine. Has that you just. Kinda like okay. I think I think I got. I think I know where it's like that okay. Now he's sniffing panties and she again. Carla handles that really. Well yes like. Oh I've just moved in with this high school guys. Dad Kids Sniff. She's like don't worry about those pennies. I brought another trunk. And then then he's like no I'm going to be a space gynecologists right like it just. There are so many different times you like. What is the explanation like? This guy is six hundred cows day picking away at we burgers like just knocking in a food. Yeah maybe he's going insane. Yeah yeah that could be because in the wikipedia summary. It's like Carla ends up in this romance with them. By the bottom paraphrasing and yet he feels like his goal of getting to one sixty eight. He's distracted by her and I'm like I never felt that wants. She feels that way. He doesn't feel like this kid. He's on a vision quest. Could this be remade as a ten episode Netflix? Show actually think it could and I think that would be an interesting move. It's been thirty five years. I don't normally like remakes but I would update it or would yeah I would make it a two thousand twenty set it up. I think wrestling works as A. I think it's a really good sports movie. Gimmick it's like boxing but it's a little more contained a kind of like the scoring like world according to Garp had some wrestling stuff too and I was. Kinda like the take downs and trying to count the score and can can he get out of the pin and crawl out or somebody the accidental elbow. And there's just a lot of stuff going on it's weird. There's only been two wrestling mood. Yes I agree with you I. I was trying to figure out whether to update it or not. I would also just take in the whole high school. I would love like some more marge. There's no way there's no way in the TV show that the high school kid would hook up with girls staying with them now not today. Well that's eighty S. Yeah let me. Twenty twenty wouldn't happen. They were going to remake the movie. And one of the guys from twilight Taylor was GONNA play. Wow Yeah Lot chiller lautner bad. I don't know if he was loosely. Attached in the city's terms to what it was. But yeah two thousand nine there was talk of remaking. I was thinking one way to maybe remake it as she's labs female in the movie instead of male. You've flipped genders on it. Who is now? There's a lot of like female wrestling. That's a it's a weird outsider do drifts throughout it's not gonNa work and the mom is like stay with found this guy talking dating the mom. Okay probably an answering questions. We covered some of them. Did Charlie Sheen market correct Michael Shuffling. Is there an alternate universe? Where basically the Michael Shuffling role in Lucas right and in Fares Bueller? Yes yeah did he just steal his career could it have been Shaath Lancashire funding in two men and a baby and all these other things to study? What was that? What was the thing he was Jon? Cryer and a half men to marry men and a baby. You're thinking a Gutenberg. Don't go skin. What are we talking about? Shuffling gets the the Wall Street platoon? Young guns run. Yeah you know. Why not and no point? Does he seem like he's not able to hang like he's Great in Sixteen Candle? He's really good. And that's the thing I think. Shopping could have pulled off all of those parts. You just mentioned he could have been in Wall Street platoon. It's not like Charlie. Sheen was like amazing in those rabies. Charlie Sheen I got that I have a boy. This is a good one. This is going to be the highlight of the pod for me so he goes into the Taichi Guy. The guy has guys wrestling sneakers. And he's like. Hey Man I gave some stink. I got sporting goods if you watch the movie. If you watch the first two thirds of the movie loudness shitty wrestling stinkers you go to the tail end of the movie. The red ones. He's got fucking meant excessive night residency whereas like skinny jeans. How are we supposed to know is? We're not sold for another run with Taichi guy to get the wrestling's now I don't think so I think he did. He's the weirdest guy ever at every turn and he does him being that guy he's like where's Kevin from four forty five Kevin when Kevin Orders two slices eleven cake lemon meringue. Yeah is hoping someone comes up in is like have some cake with me. Yeah I think it's a move okay and by the way if you're going to be doing any kind of martial arts training room service shows up and you open the door and you're like hold on and then you have to like bow out to respect the routine and then you're like. Oh my lemon meringue here. He's like I like to do Tai Chi because it chills me out for bed but I I'm going to have pure whipped cream and concentrate sugar coffee and coffee copy with that. Guy Story at the room service. Go Yeah Yeah I think I think Ladan. I don't think he paid for those things. That cause the shot of those shoes was a close up. The director wanted you to know. Hey remember those shoes and it goes back to. There's you know there's an underlying theme in this movie that it's hard to eighties or whether there's more going on the wrestling sneakers. Were a red flag carrier fat. I knew you would love that. Rousseau I thought about it it's my notes Tell you what I wrote down. What happens to Loudon after school? I mean probably prison. He's had he's. He's completed his vision quest. He pinched shoot he. He with an older woman. Who's now going to San Francisco? What next he gets his ass apart. A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CITIES RANDOMLY. But the thing is is he's smart enough for the economy becomes one of those local guys that are going to beginning. You think like Oh. This guy is kind of interesting. Like what's his deal and he's a guy I was at. Wazoo has actually all packed. It would have been packed ten. You know wrestling like Oh. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. And then all of a sudden he's like did I ever tell you about the time I went to Neptune. And you're like Oh yeah all right well let me get another get another bourbon and I'll tell you about space travel and you're like this guy. He's gotTa fuck an eye patch and holds a log in his hand and is the unabomber. It's just that simple because he's just out there just being like here's my. I wrote another science then I could also see leading unprompted science articles. Yeah that he's like. Oh you should check on my science blog. I haven't found the right tech guy in between tech is and then he also but he's smart enough to kind of do some other stuff. I could see him starting a cult And then they're doing a documentary on him and their what's up with loud and we'd be like you know lounge like the early nineties. I hadn't been dating much right and so I decided the best way to meet people start call I thought goes to. University of Washington Wrestles U. Dub heels is pretty expensive just eastern Washington washing. He goes to Washington state whatever wrestles comes back becomes a teacher at the school. Nah Him and tanner enemies doubt becomes teacher the school and then gets fired after he gets involved with junior Totally yeah that's how it plays out. 'cause he's got the constant attractions would add. Did you have an unanswerable question? Couple one is how fucking badge this kid smell because all he does? Is Sweat in a rubber suit. And then change right into the clothes. He needs to be in for like his day. So he's either getting to work. You imagine this guy bring you room service running around in a rubber suit all day. And he's like here's your pie not not a fan. Probably know tip there. Unless I'm Kevin from the four forty five Kevin. The tip number two is a little concerned about just. The structure of the school newspaper. Were Marge is both like the editor in chief writing editorials but is also the chief sports writer. It just feels like a lot. It's a big work. Yeah I think she's actually she was Mabon the unofficial official score. I couldn't match. I'll tell you she was way ahead of her time with extracurricular activities college. I think she went to Berkeley. Yeah yeah definitely. And that's Yeah. That's all for unanswerable. Carla leaves loud and starts dating the March for sure because marriage obviously tells after he understands the poem and she's like I'm in love with you and then he faints because get nose bleeds all the time like Loudon is going to have such a bad rep after a couple years of high school. Whatever happened in eastern Washington that she's GonNa she's going to be one of his only options. So they're gonNA smash. I had one of their nick. I forgot to mention the big the big scene at the end and to have all the people in different parts of the audience. Yeah so tanner over here. But then ELMO's over here and then Carlos here and then his dad and grandfather over here like couldn't they just put everybody in the same row girlfriend second as after he wins gets to him holding says speaking of the Cuda ways? It's almost a little. It isn't Dennis Hopper hoosiers showing up to the game but ELMO when he gets mad and shoves a woman out of his. He's getting his way and he can't see and then the next cut away to him. I thought it was like a vape pen. But he's actually getting a cigarette going. I get that the smoking thing growing up bill nye was was a free for all. I don't remember mid eighties gyms allowing you to. I don't think it was that reckless even back. Then he's like a hell of a man. Ben Simmons and I watch big last night and Elizabeth Perkins is smoking everywhere for the first year. I twenty minutes that movie. Like she's got six in the Limo and that the cocktail party and in meetings and all that it was only thirty years ago so maybe I'm Oh maybe he's justified. So vision quest to you would sit around Elmo to Brazil. Thanks the pilgrimage to the To Brazil to see to see the media washed up Paler. Yeah or just like to know what happened to shoot. Like whenever you're the bad sauce for show and you're the baddest guy like there's just and now you have this this thing like what's it like when you go back to your high school the next day and I just can't express enough if Modine was the best in his weight class already in the one nineties and was that unpopular. That's hard to do. It's hard to be like. Hey I'm one of the best wrestlers and none of the wrestlers. WanNa sit with me and then I do the peg completion board. I guess everything turned around. And oh by the way. I'm dating a smoking. Nineteen eighty-five Twenty one year old. And that's like on the record happening and IB shoot in. Everybody's still like you like right. You gotta get out of town. I have one more answerable question but I wanna do it like it's a I take segment you guys ready sure. Who's who here We're we're stepping for. I take all right. Bill Simmons background. I take on with Chris Ryan Ryan Russillo talk about the big shoot swain match last night. Guys Debrecen Shoot Choke Ryan. What do you think he's thirteen nine? Twenty seven seconds left. Loudon as body knows Ryan. What was he doing? Why wasn't he just trying to get away and run out the clock? I've been saying for three years that she was going to fall off a cliff and even though he won two state titles after. I said it. I've told you. He was always assistant guy. You know he wasn't good against length. I've been sitting on this show for years despite his success saying that. I might be wrong like I knew this day was coming so I will take my w on looking at the at the everywhere spirit. I want to see if if Loudon tits tested for any native American spiritual intervention. That shouldn't be banned interesting. Yeah maybe a drug testers really. Here's the thing shoot. You're the best guy in Washington. You've never lost before you're trying. You have this whole. I've pinned everybody. I've ever wrestled record at some point. Take the win. Take the win. You're up thirteen nine. Twenty seven seconds left. Get the win. The job is to win the match. Are we done? Let's get okay. It's the movie personally feel Fiorentino. I mean it's why I would go back to this movie Harlem in this movie so you don't agree with me in the beginning where the acting as a little up and down. I don't mind it I find it like a little PUNK ROCK. Kinda like just getting into it. Just Kinda feel filner way through pricing. Modine wins because he's playing somebody who has a lot of unredeemed qualities and I'm still rooting for him. All the way through the movie I think Atlas Traditional Atlases Win as if these people back then it had some sort of google map or any kind of thing like. I just still can't believe how long it took to drive to. His grandfather's house was grandfather's house was like an Cario here in Toronto Canada. You WanNa give Antero Ontario. Yeah where's that I've never word? Ontario is because it's never really far did take a while to get their support a candidate -Tario Ontario Ontario Canada say Ontario. I'm tired these lights are flashing. I think you'd be better off saying like Saskatoon. vision quest. I'm glad we did this. Work Episode Two of the flawed. We Watch mows miniseries Chris Ryan adverse. Oh thank you. Thanks to Russillo and thanks to Chris next week. We're doing ocean's twelve on that on that one we have a more than able crew. Helmi now one is the third installment of the flawed rewatch was ocean's twelve. You have a week to watch it. 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I think I sound a little nasal e still. Up until about an hour ago. I thought it was sick. Last week. Some fires started in California. I'm not in any danger that are not super close to where I live. They're kind of more coastal and a little bit north. Probably, you know, by at least fifteen twenty miles. I would say the closest fire. Fire. Yeah. Probably twenty miles at the closest. The ones up in Calabasas. And they started I guess late Thursday night early Friday morning and holy shit. You guys the smoke. Even where I am. The the weather moves west te- east, and I'm a little south east of where the fires are an so. The wind is bringing all the the goddamn smoke and ashes. Don't where I am. It's a lot better today. But Saturday and Sunday and yesterday Monday, I'm recording this on Tuesday Saturday Sunday and Monday, especially Saturday and Sunday. Holy shit. It was so bad like the sky was. Brownish? It was like a Brown haze from the smoke when the sun said the whole sky was orange. It was crazy. But it also just smelled like smoke. And so my sinuses have been. Sneezing a lot and. Sniffling? I got the sniffle. You boy got this sniffles. But it was terrifying. I woke up. Friday Friday morning in when out to my car is just like. The smoke plume was so high in the air. It was terrifying. And then come to find out there's fire northern California as well. In the the ones down here were actually a couple of different fires, very close together. Who would go? Sorry. I'm also very tired because I got up like six this morning to work, and I just got home. But yeah, I had my friend's wedding this weekend, which was outdoors as a lot of weddings are but is outdoor sun Saturday and was probably the worst day for being outside around here. You could literally smell the smoke in the air and. Like anyone who was wearing black? You could literally literally see ashes falling onto their coats or dresses like I was sitting in my seat. My friend. Dave was sitting in front of me wearing a black jacket. The whole time. I could just see little specks of ash just floating down under his jacket. It was insane. So of course, my cough is no better this week. In fact, it's a little worse. I just I just did Netti pot a little while ago. Because today it was like, you know, when your sinuses. Get really dry. And they just sting like when you inhale air through your nose it just stings because it's so dry. I had that all day today. I couldn't wait to get home from shooting and. Do the old Netti pot? God bless than any pie. I did like an hour ago. And it's just now. Doesn't sting when I breathe anymore. Although I'm still a little nasal early. I thought I was sick. I was like, well, this is a it stings when I'm breathing. My throat's drives I'm coughing. I've just been working so much in in having really messed up power. So I'm probably sick. That's it. I'm sick. Did the Netti pot? I feel okay. No. I haven't really felt sick though. I'm I think I'm tired because of the hours I've been working and waking up and going to bed although that could definitely cause me to get sick. But I don't feel. You know, you don't you just feel sick and weak? I don't feel weak. I sound shitting my sinuses. Sound bad. I'm coughing. But that's because I'm inhaling tons of burnt houses and bushes and trees and. He's fires ridiculous. Juice ridiculous. Yeah. So I still have to go in and see the. The lung doctor the pulmonologist the pulmonary specialist could make an appointment this week because I'm working every day. Hopefully. Next week's thanksgiving Thursday. I know a lot of health care. Workers go out of town. It's it's a holiday be with your family, and you don't want to leave. You can't leave on Thursdays. You got to at least leave on Wednesday. So a lot of people just leave at the beginning of the week. So I'm hoping I can get in and see this person. Early next week like Monday or Tuesday. But if they're closed for the holidays have to wait another week. Dealing with this cough. And what else oh, I'm going to see. A trainer. Y'all. I am excited. I'm hiring a trainer. It's a guy who talked about this how I was nervous about seeing nutritionist. And starting a new diet. I'm now excited about it. I'm not bombed. I know it's going to be tough at first. But I've done it before. So it's not like. Like, I'm afraid of failing. I know I can do it. It's putting my mind to it and fucking doing it. Although maybe next week bad week start because things kidding. Here's you knew diet have happy thanksgiving. Title. Here's your new tie. It have a happy thanksgiving. Sorry, guys. It's ridiculous that I just write this stuff down in the middle of a recording. But. Is your new diet? Happy thanksgiving. But if I don't write it down. I. I will generally forget ninety percent of everything I talk about in this podcast right now. And and then you know, when I got upload it tomorrow for Starbucks audio for the the audio network that hosts this lovely podcasts that we've all been listening to they asked me for a description, and I'm like, I don't remember what I talked to talk to. I don't remember what I talked about. I don't want to sit and listen for to myself talk for an hour. So I have to write this stuff down like right away. Any who you don't care about that? I'm going to see a trainer that's where I was going with this. But yeah, I've, you know, I. The past few episodes of superstore that I've seen my cellphone on TV. I'm just like. This is a bummer. I'm just extremely overweight. Now, I've let it go. I'm just. I'm not in a good place. I don't feel great. And then when I see myself on TV, I generally try not to watch myself in general because I don't like to but. I like superstar. I think it's funny. I like my character side like to see how it turns out sometimes so I'll watch for a little bit. I see myself on TV, and I'm like fuck for those. You follow me on Instagram? And I don't mean the no docks podcast. Instagram. I mean, my personal at Steve AG Instagram. You'll notice it I almost never post photos of myself, which is crazy for for Instagram for social networking. Eighty percent of the people. I follow. For just posting photos of themselves. It's kind of annoying, but I get it. Whatever. But I I don't like posting first of all photography's my hobby. So I just like posting photos of things I take pictures of. And I think that's cool. And then, you know, I just don't like the way, you know, the past few years I've been looking. Had feeling I want to see this trainer slash nutritionist mainly for my own health. And how I feel rather than how I look, but that's just another perk. Yes, I've I've been you know, whenever I see myself. I'm just like thought. Some not checking myself out all day. I in my head. I'm I feel like I looked like I did when I was in my twenties. And I look and I'm like, Nope. You look like an old troll. Whatever. Some going to see this guy whose whole thing is he's a trainer he'll give you an exercise regimen. But it's. He's mainly fixing the way you eat which I'm excited about and I need to fix. I need to fix the way. I do the meal services. You know that I advertise on this podcast. But I don't do them every day. And when I'm not doing those it's just like back to. It's ten o'clock. I'm tired. I'm going to have a PB and J. And that's no good. That's that's not good for your metabolism right before bed. Also, I have the whole, you know, comfort food is the best most aptly named. Phrase comfort food because that's exactly what it is. You know, because I must also stand up comedian a lot of times I'll go do show sometimes the late show sometimes like eleven PM or go do show like on a week night. Haven't been doing lately as often because I'm working during the day, and it's just to exhaust thing. But every now, and then I just go on a spree of doing stand up, and it's like. I'll go to a show at eleven PM at the improv the laugh factory or somewhere in. And then. If I this dumb. But if I had. A really shitty show. Let's say nobody shows up because it's late on a weeknight which happens. Or it's bad crowd. Or just I'm like often I tank or whatever I have a bad show. I'll drive home feeling shitty. And I'll just be like. Fuck it. I'm gonna go to McDonalds. Fuck this. At least that will make me feel good for real it's comfort food. I'm like, I just need some fries. Some fucking fries. And it does make me feel. Sadly, it makes me feel fucking good. Just like after shitty show just showing down. Some piping hot. Mcdonald's fries. Are you kidding? Completely takes my mind off the shit show that I just did. But then I get home. Lay on the land the castle watched him TV before I got a better something and I'm like God. Why did I fucking do that? It's the middle of the fucking night. I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking pay for this. On the other side of that coin. Say I go to a show at the improv. It's packed Thursday night or something is packed. Because somebody else's there. So Sarah silverman's there, you know, and I'm doing a show with her and the place is packed for, you know, something like that. And it's great the energies great. The crowd is great. I'm firing on all four cylinders for once as you just like, really fun. Really good show. I'll be driving home. And go. You know, what I did real good? I deserve. I deserve to reward myself. I'll get some fucking fries. The fuck am. I think I have to try. I I really do need to retrain, my my fucking brain. And my I guess I need to retrain my emotions man because that's it's all revolves. I can be feeling great. Like, I'm going to reward myself or shitty. Got to make myself feel good with some food. My my rambling about I think I've rambled about this last week. So you get the picture. That's why I'm going to see see somebody next week. And I'm actually excited about it. I just want the skies to clear up as one that'd be winter. So there's not as many fires. I recorded last week recording episode of drunk history. Again. We I get like jeez. Four forty five in the morning because we had to drive away. I had to drive away up kind of north west to where the fires are right now. Shooting out in the hills. And. They were shooting all week up there, but we shot. My God my story on Wednesday. And the fire started the very next night, and they couldn't work anymore because it was they were fires were right where we had been shooting. So I don't think they got to finish out there week at least not up there. So. Sending out good vibes to. Everyone. I, and I know a few people that have houses out in these areas. Luckily, I feel like everyone I know who lives out in these areas have managed to avoid losing their houses. But my friend Carey. Her husband and kid live the Malibu area, and they were evacuated and worry how tell just watching the news was the fire raged all around their neighborhood. And they thought their house was going for sure. And then the next day her husband in a couple of other people. Got a boat. They got like a, you know, small motorboat and like went up the coast because you couldn't get in. Via car because all the roads were closed because of the fire. So they took a boat up to the beach in Malibu and got out and went to their house carries house was fine. But their neighbors house the people right across the street, totally lost their house. It's so weird. How that shit happens? One house will just be fine and directly next door just gone. Terrible. Let's actually do some emails. It's been twenty minutes me rambling about being fat. And. Living French fries. Maybe that's the episode. I'm fat and left French fries. No, not gonna do that. 'cause then every time. Scrolling through the podcast app and see that titles bummed me out. That's awesome. Good emails earlier not checked in such a while. Man. Yes. The lines. Also. Here's from a listener named Christopher the subject line is. Thank you. Says I'm not sure if you'll get this. But I just wanna thank you. I mean university student getting a Bs in psychology. And I just wrote a ten page essay completely based off of your episode broken index. And my professor loved it. So thanks for the inspiration of glad. Go ahead. We can inspire. You broke index. I don't even remember what that episode was about. I mean clearly. Clearly something to do with a broken, dick. We're now up to like, sixty episodes. We've done like over a year's worth of podcasting. I'm happy to say, I'm at a point where I don't remember a lot of the episodes, which is also shitty because you're going to start hearing me repeat goddamn stories that you've probably heard like two or more times. Hey, what's up everybody? 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Save money and save yourself a headache with simple contacts carry on Christopher also signed this Chris goes on. Also, if you if you're ever interested interested, I can't talk. I'm so goddamn tired. Also today, I went into work. Little I went into work this morning. I was running late. I was nervous. I had to stop and get coffee. Got to universal. I went to the base camp. Or my trailer is and. Into hair and makeup to get all made up early this morning in literally just sat around. I mean actors will tell you that. Fifty percent of acting as waiting today was a great example. I got there early this morning and did not even step foot onset until after lunch. Which was at twelve thirty. So it was over by one thirty. I didn't go to set til two PM. I can't complain though. I love what I do. But oh, I remember. I was going with us. I. Was literally only in two scenes in both scenes. I'm sleeping. So I'm like literally they just to get two quick shots of me sleeping on a bed. And then I came you know, there's a lot of waiting around to do that. For some reason waiting around makes me even more tired than if I'm actually working because I'm occupied preoccupied or whatever whatever shut up Steve finisher Email from Chris. Also, if you're ever interested, I grew up in a family of homeopaths have quite a story of have a story about what happens when PTSD? For those of you, not know that's post traumatic stress disorder is left untreated for four years. I'm actually in the process of putting together a Ted talk on it for next summer. Wow. That's awesome. I love TED talks. I could watch TED talks all day. Please. Drop us a line again. Ted. Called you. Ted, Chris, Chris or Christopher Christopher. Oh my gosh. I can't talk. When you do your get this, Ted talk together, do it, please. Let us know. Because I am kind of interested. I you know, speaking of PTSD. I just recently Google you're watching saving private Ryan. I love that movie. It's such a. Realistic, at least the war scenes are like very realistic porch. You know, portrayal of like the battle scenes as far as I know it looks horrifying. I love that movie. And then this probably days ago, I googled, I don't know what reminded me of this. But I do gold. Why was Tom Hanks handshaking? In saving private Ryan. They never touched on it. They just it's just a this. This underlying thing that's going on with him. And you know. Just another thing for him to worry about an addition to. Nazis and bombs and finding this needle in a haystack. It's like, you know, they never say anything, and I just assumed you had like Parkinson's or MS. Early stages. I looked it up. And there are some theories that it's his hand shaking was a symptom of early PTSD like it's just your body's way of dealing with the horror that it's going through this start shaking. So there's that. Oh boy. Just going off on tangents again. Thank you, Christopher Chris. For your Email and good luck with this tedtalk. Here's one from a person, I'm assuming a guy named Logan. I've only ever met guys with the name. So who knows who knows in this day and age Logan in the subject is terminal weaning. He steve. My name is Logan, and I'm an EMT in New York City, and I'm a long-time listener and big fan of both the show, and you're acting. We'll thank you Logan recently. I've received numerous EMS calls to oversee patients being removed from their ventilators. Jesus. I thought you might get. Well, weirded out by just the people are being removed from ventilators. But I thought you might get a kick. Out of the fact that this act is no known as terminal weaning. Be the good name for a band. I mean, it does sound a lot like weaned. But. I did not know that. Apparently, there's a name for everything. Of course, there's a name for. Disconnecting someone from a ventilator? Thanks for all the knowledge that your show passes onto the public. Keep up the good work. Logan, PS on a personal note shit. Oh. I read this before I blatantly say it out loud in case. It's something like. Horrible on a personal note. I've killed five people with karate and. It's a habit. I can't stop doing. Oh, Logan, writes PS personal note. I wanted to let you know that your photography is inspired a lot of what I've been shooting myself lately. I know it's a big unlikely asked, but if you had the time and or interests, please check out my Instagram at Logan Myers photo. Thanks. Well. There you go, folks. Check out at Logan Myers photo. If I remember I will check it out Logan. But thank you for your Email. We doing on time folks, thirty minutes, it's been thirty minutes. Eight PM folks for those of you who are wondering what I'm doing this PM on Tuesday. They have to have this all handed in tomorrow. So they can upload it. So in launch on Thursday, and I'm shooting tomorrow. So I have to record all this tonight. When really all I wanted to do is take some alka seltzer cold medicine or some Benadryl and. Sleep it off. Here's one from a listener named Jenny. The subject is. Oh my gosh. Itchy legs itchy legs. By the way. This is a problem back, you know, month or month or so ago when I went out to death valley in Vegas. I think the dry air my skin was gotta say just starting in yesterday. I think it's the dryness and the smoke smokes, not making my legs it, but it's it's cold. It's getting cold. So the Air's getting drying and. Yup. As I'm saying this my goddamn legs. So this will be topical. No pun intended. Stephen. I had the itchy legs. About three years ago. My lower legs and forum started issue had no more Arash except for irritated skin after intense scratching it would occur in the evenings. And at night, and sometimes in the early mornings, you that's when mine happens. It never seemed to bother me during the day. Yeah. Same here. Sometimes it would wake me up in the middle of the night. It was awful. I finally went to Matala gist, and she gave me a strong steroid cream for when that didn't work. She put me on two weeks worth of daily die. Flu. Can this is a little weird because die flu can is a medication for yeast infections. And it's usually only taken once. I had to have my liver. Enzymes tested before taking this drug for an extended period of time. But everything checked out just fine. A tick the dye flu can and the itching went away it hasn't bothered me since I hope you find a quick and easy solution to the overwhelming obnoxiousness of persistent itching. Thank you so much for the podcast. And I love seeing you on superstore, it's one of my favorite shows, keep up the awesome work, and oh, dear God, how many people tell you this? If you ever need, a vote, feel female co hosts let me know, I don't know shit. But I'm great at talking. Sincerely, jenny. Well, thank you, Jenny. I will keep that in mind. I'm glad you got your itchy legs. Taking care of of. I mean, it would help if I just put anything on them lotion or something do that. After this. Podcast. Recording is over. Literally, I am horizontal laying on my couch record. That's would be. It would be hilarious. If I just flat out fell asleep wise that would be great if I flat out sleep recording. This kind of drop the mic onto my chest. So still right by my mouth. And you just heard me I cert- snoring. But that's not going to happen. Here's another one. Call. It's from Jessica and the title is help for your itchy leg. The title the subject. Help for your itchy legs. Hey, see, Vanni roast reason episode. You mentioned that you were having problems issue legs after visiting death valley. I have the same problem especially during the dry winter months. The only thing I've found that helps is this. I vino baby eczema therapy moisturizing cream. She does give a link to. To the product and. It's a long one. But it's basically at Avino dot com slash products slash baby. Dash Exuma dash therapy. Dash moisturizing dash cream. I mean, that's basically that is what? It's this stuff is amazing. I think you should be able to find it in CVS or another local drugstore. You can also get it on Amazon, I have sensitive skin and XM. So I have to be careful what kinds lotions I use this stuff stops the issuing almost instantly for me. I have actually used that stuff. And it's awesome. I currently do not have any. I wish I did. I also sometimes used. There's an vino basically like. He's just called Avino anti. It's it's it's basically like Cala mine lotion what you would put on. Poison oak. That stuff works really for itchy skin to. I've had this problem for years. I know the feeling of waking up during the night scratching legs until they're bleeding. Sorry. So gross. I know in the summer months, it's not as bad. I can usually get away with just applying coconut oil the my legs after showering. I hope that helps thanks so much for the podcast that makes me makes my commute to work on the bus so much more enjoyable best wishes, Jessica, well, thank you. Jessica appreciate the Email. Glad you have found relief in Avino products. And thank you for the reminder. I will next time I go to CVS or WalMart or ride. I will look for that. I used to have somebody actually went through it all. Hilo? Here's one from a listener named Christine. I'm not laughing laughing if the subject, which is shove rub. Like, a long Email about masturbation. It is not though, Steve I love listening to your excellent show while I walked the streets for money as a male lady male MA, I'll lady with all this walking comes the chafing. You described in your last show. I think that's the one. Same with the itchy legs. I think that's the same podcast episode where I was in Vegas walking around. With all this walking comes the shaving. You described your last show? It's a serious problem. Why line of work, and I've taken to calling rub glide works really well. But it's best to use it as a preventative before walking. If you can't. Yep. I agree. I have some glide. And you definitely yeah. That's the thing. You have to put that stuff on. Preemptively? I bought my husband's some underwear called Saks essay ex for when he works outdoor events in warm. Climates sacks a regular boxer briefs with a bit of mesh inside to keep your apples from rolling out of the bag. He doesn't like talking about his balls. It's really weirded out. When I asked about the performance of these underwear when I can tell you is that he's stopped using so much glide, and I am constantly finding these underwear laundry. So I know they must do the trick sacks are well-made and pricey. But you might find something similar online from another company. Thanksgiving hearing your stories helps me and others feel less lonely and more connected while we listen. Cheers. Cricket. Okay. It's christine. The meals from Christine, I guess nickname is cricket. Cheers. Cricket will. Thank you. Cricket PS. Thank you sharing your thoughts on meditation and for having Tayo on your show. I emailed him. And he put me in touch with a teacher in my area. And I've been practicing vedic meditation for two months now, I'm sleeping better. And I'm feeling more calm in general. You're right. When you say this world would be a better place everyone practices. That's awesome. Cricket. I'm so stoked to hear that. In fact, I was gonna say something. And you just reminded me. I got an Email. From tale. My. Detention teacher and. Saying that since he's done this podcast. He's he's spoke with I think it was something like forty listeners forty people have about forty people. I think. I think that's right something like forty people have contacted him since we did this podcast about meditation. And not all in LA. In fact, mostly people outside of LA, but he has been able to put all these people in touch with meditation. Teachers and a lot of these people are still practicing. And I think that's incredible. So I'm glad you're doing that cricket. It really does make a huge huge difference. I think people in general who are high strung. Would. Benefit greatly from meditation. I think if what what am I talking about ending everyone would benefit from meditation? It's it's amazing really is amazing. So thank you. And again listeners if you want to go back and listen to my episode on meditation with my guest Tayo Burkhard. Spelled T H E, and there's a little. Boy, I'm bad with grammar, and spelling and everything it's a little slash over the I R over the e in THEO I thought it was the oh, I got an Email about him. But it's Tayo Tayo. Hey. Oh. Here's one. Laurie. Hey, Steve, I'll be in Beverly Hills for two weeks getting alternative treatment for Lyme. This is thing. I read this good use Chris again. Do you think I read this one about lines Z's? I believe it's a follow up. Hey, Steve, I'll be in Beverly Hills for two weeks giving an alternative treatment. For Lyme clinic is called infused Kelly Osbourne referenced inter buck, and she had great results treatment consists of two weeks, six hours a day of IV treatments. Wolf that's a lot of Ivy. Coupled with hyper barrack treatments and the system or stem cell therapy for the stem cell therapy. I don't know the exact science, but I know they suck out a small amount of my own fat reprogram its tell the lime bacteria die takes by regular middle aged chub and train it to be Terminator like soldiers get the shop. Any if you like the guests chat about Lyme. I'll be in Beverly Hills giving dates and stuff, I think is more of a personal Email, but. I may be out of town. Since it's the holidays and work is going to be stopping. But I would definitely be interested in hearing about this treatment. So keep me updated. And if I am in town, maybe we can make that happen. Thank you, Laurie. Is that right? Yes. Okay. Oh, we do time, folks. Forty five minutes, okay. Wrap this up suit. This is from someone named Jada subject line is never too young. Hi, I'm Jada CNA represent a CNA representing Texas. I'm going to college for nursing. So that's why mainly started listening. I'm eighteen and I've been listening since the very first episode, but I was recently. Listening to. The episode title. This amazing pig. This is amazing pig ass. Some some of these episodes titles would never know. This was medical podcast medical related podcast. I and I just wanted to say Steve made me laugh so hard. He said would be sad. If someone was listening to this podcast, and they were sixteen I canceled. I was seventeen when I first started listening. But thank God. I'm eighteen in college down. Anyways. I love the podcast you'll never fail to make me laugh out loud. No matter where I am at. I love Steve's laughing. I love busies emotion when she is telling her stories when you guys tell stories I imagine the whole thing in vivid color, anyway, thank you for making this podcast. You guys are both amazing. Have a great day and keep up the good work while Jada have great Dane great week to you as well. And. Keep up the good studies in school study hard. Study hard study hard Jada. Thank you for the Email. Hey, what's up guys? I'm talking street. So you know, what that means? It's holiday time. Yeah. That means it's time to start sending out those holiday cards, and I don't know about you. But it always means more to me personally, when I get a personalized card as opposed to one of those Janke off the shelf assembly line, greeting cards that we've all gotten and I'll put on the refrigerator for one week and then thrown away. So no matter where you'll be this holiday season. Whether it's skiing, the slopes or basking on a nice hot beach or just kicking it down at home with your loved ones. 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Besides I have other issues to like, sleep paralysis, scary, carpal, tunnel, painful and annoying an extra super itchy. I'd love to hear about these topics on your podcast all the best lots of love kit, Kat Chaka, cat what? Well, thank you, d or cat, Chaka cat, whatever. Whatever it is go by. As far as the vertigo, very sorry that you have to deal with that too. I would not wish really don't think. I would wish it on my worst enemy. It's so horrible. Why is not triggered by at least as far as I know by he humidity. Dehydration. Yes. That I mean, I always have a form of vertigo like always feeling a little bit dizzy. But when I'm dehydrated, it's it takes it up like ten notches to like the room is looks like it's spinning I've been really lucky with staying hydrated not being like put out of. Commission because of the spins. But I you know at any given day a little bit off balance. But yeah, dehydration about on and as far as the salt intake. I'm wondering if you I'm assuming you did get tested for manures disease. I test for that one time this nears disease. Try low salt diet. Which didn't really work. Also Jesus Christ. It's hard to quit salt, but I- salt this really do it for me. Okay. D or kit, Kat, thank you for the new rapid up. This. Okay. Two or trade. From someone Robin Robin with an eye and not a why it's called unconscious while flying Turkish Airlines, aka red wine and valium don't mix. Hey, Steve true story. Get sorry. Hey, Steve the story that gave told on this week's episode took me back to a very memorable flight in two thousand thirteen I was traveling Stamboel from Houston for my sister's wedding on Turkish Airlines never able to sleep on planes. So I had the genius idea. Drink a little bit of red wine with my dinner on the plane, and then a few hours later took value. Already know this is where this is go. I already know where this is going. This would ensure good sleep. I reasoned since it was an overnight flight. Sure enough I fell asleep easily, but then woke up about an hour to later after the cabin lights dimmed in most everyone was asleep. I was drenched in sweat. So I decided to get lavatory splash water on my face when I got there. It was occupied. So I stood waited apparently within moments past outstanding up into the header into the lavatory door and then hit the floor next thing. I know I am in the plane galley on my back staring up at the lights surrounded by people. Speaking in Turkish an older. Turkish woman was talking talking an older. Turkish woman was taking my pulse and barking orders at the flight attendants. I have no idea how long I was unconscious later on. I found out she was a doctor and after I passed out they had made an announcement asking. If there was a doctor on board. Fortunately, I was able to communicate enough to tell them where my sister and her fiance. Say were seated so they come to help as well. Besides a little bump on the head and some embarrassment. Everything was fine. But what a story and the moral of the story do not ever mix in value even in small amounts, especially on flight lead the pike. I. Can't begin. To tell you first of all thank you, Robin for that Email. Sorry you pass out on a plane. Very funny. But it's kind of funny 'cause I I know. So many people. Like, I know alarming amount of people who have had similar stories about taking a pill to fly. You know, and then mixing with booze and then having disastrous results puking passing out going crazy and just being drunk in. So many people, and it's offer mixing pills and booze. Don't do. It folks commit to one or the other. I just. Value, by the way, I used to love love value at a, sir. Hiccups at a prescription for it at one point. That stuff is amazing. To listen to me don't start taking it just because I said, it was amazing. Should really have a reason for taking it. But it was good. All right. Let's do one last one because been almost an hour. This is from I did read this one already. This is from someone Jennifer and subject line is stroke during sex at twenty years old. I saw that subject. I had to read it immediately and flag it. Hey, steve. My name is Jennifer and as a fellow hypochondriac. I love the podcast, and this is my first time riding in after listening to today's episode the cheese stroke. For those of you who haven't heard my friend, Gabe. Had like a migraine related to aged Gouda. He had a migraine mimic stroke. I wanted to share my personal stroke story with you. Because it's so rare interesting and scary. And my son nineteen years old. I was for the most part healthy minus the weight gain during pregnancy after I had my son my health quickly deteriorated within three months of giving birth. I woke up one night with excruciating pain in my abdomen. I went to the emergency room after hours of pain vomiting vomiting, due to the pain and was told my gallbladder needed to be removed right away. So the next day my call bladder roads removed in I was back to my normal life with my newborn son or so I thought about a month after my gallbladder was removed. I was all healed up and back to living my life my boyfriend at the time, and I were feeling frisky one day after our son had gone to bed. So as most couples do we snuck away to our bedroom and got busy sorry. If this is TMI, but it's an important part of the story. Please people if you right in there is no such thing. There's no such thing as TMI you can't share too much graphic medical details for future. People writing futures. However, I will say one thing I don't like is. If you're telling story. Talking if you're being negative towards people even we've had I've read somewhere, it's like, I had a nurse. She was real piece of shit like. You can say I didn't like my nurse. You're gonna have to call her a piece of shit. Because maybe she really wasn't a piece of shit. Maybe she was having a bad day. We all have bad. I've had bad days and said stuff that I regretted. So. Share all the graphic details of your medical stories. But just don't be mean to people. And I think we'll all be good. Okay. How about that? Anyway. Sorry. This is TMI, but is porn part of the story after about three minutes in lost all feeling alright. Side of my body, my face, my arm, everything I thought maybe my boyfriend being on top of me had pinched a nerve. So I pushed him off. I pushed him off me as it was a weird feeling. I stood up and started laughing. Uncontrollably. In my mind, I knew it was weird to be laughing. And I did not want to be laughing. But I could not control it. My body was just making me laugh. This scared me, I begin to dance around the room in fear naked because it felt like I had lost complete control of my body and for the life. I just could not make myself, stop laughing. This is Steve talking by the way, not in the Email. This is insane. To me. This is so fucking terrifying. To me sounds like something out of a horror movie. I tried to tell my boyfriend to help me but for the life. I just could not get the words out my boyfriend started to look at me like something might be wrong. And I remember him telling me, babe. This isn't funny. What are you doing? I had forgotten how to speak. I decided I would write note. So I ran out into the living room but ask naked because we had just been, you know, getting down I grabbed a piece of paper and pen and tried to write help. But I couldn't remember how to write. Jesus. This is terrifying. I knew in my mind what I needed to write. But I couldn't. But I could not get to translate to my body. I was able to scribble a couple of illegible letters. I did not know what to do. So as most twenty year olds would do I called my mom again. I couldn't get a coherent sentence out. Most of what I said on the phone was I can't I in grumbles that sound like I was trying to speak, but could not my mom told my boyfriend to take me to the emergency room. So in the car, we got so in the car, we got and headed straight to the emergency room. Once I was admitted I was accused of being on drugs. I've heard this about her this with other stories where people are fucked up from something. The nurses or doctors will go you're on drugs. Not cool. Once I was admitted as cues to being on drugs. I was young and healthy. So stroke was the last thing on anyone's mind, I was repeatedly asked by several nurses and doctors if I was on any drugs, and then I needed tell them the truth. I was not on drugs. I've never even smoked pot before God's sakes. They finally brought me in for C T skin and determined a minor stroke. None of the doctors were able to determine why I had a stroke, but I hadn't he'd had a stroke later. I found out that rare blood disease runs on my dad's side of the family called factor. Five Ledin Elliot d e n which is a blood clotting disorder, my dad's doctor friend thinks that following giving. Let me start that setting. My dad's doctor friend thinks that following giving birth and my gallbladder surgery mixed with having factor. Five leading caused a small blood clot to detach and pass the small hole. I have in my heart and go directly to my brain. I'm twenty nine now. And I'm so lucky to have not been affected in any way from my stroke and a huge advocate of knowing your family genetics in history as a way to stay proactive preventative in your own health as a way to stay proactive slash preventative in your own elf feel free to share my story on the pod. If you find interesting enough. Yeah, I was saving this story for the end. First of all, Jennifer. Thank you second. We'll glad you survived a stroke. Of those people listening. Who are new listeners have not heard a lot of the earlier episodes of the cast. Busy. I didn't up with our friend, rob Benedict. He's an actor musician. He was on a show called supernatural. He's in a band called Louden Swain. He had a stroke when he was like his early to mid forties. And it's chilling episode to listen to the title of that episode. If you wanna go back it's called face FA AC, and it's has nothing to do with anything other than strokes. So it's all about strokes. And I think very helpful episode. Listen to if you wanna go back and in its early on. I mean, like probably in the first. You know, ten ten to twelve episodes of of this podcast. My sinuses. So horrible. I don't feel sick. I'm not getting sick. Don't wanna get sick. Just have a few more days of shooting before thanksgiving vacation. But yes, Jennifer, thank you very much. That is terrifying story. I find the most interesting part of that is you're laughing. Dancing around. At is scary ash. It. I do weird things. When I think something bad is happening. And this is this goes back to the movie. There's a Bill Murray movie. What about Bob? Great movie, by the way, I think Frank Oz directed it. But it's Bill Murray and. Shit. No spacing. The other actor. But Bill Murray plays a hypochondriac effect that should be required. Listening to anyone who are should be required. Watching viewing to anyone who's a listener of this podcast because of hypochondria it's probably in the nine is made probably in the nineties. Mid to late nineties. It's called what about Bob and. Bilberry plays. I country named Bob. Any go Richard Dreyfuss? That's the other actor. He goes into Richard Dreyfuss who plays a psychiatrist psychologist, and he goes into see him for the first time because his previous psychologists quit. He just quit the business because he was so fucking over Bill Murray's character. So Bill goes into see Richard Dreyfuss. Richard Dreyfuss is like what's wrong. He just starts giving a list of. Symptoms. That is so funny. I get hot sweats cold sweats tingling in my hands tingling tingling my legs. None number lips dead. Lips? Like a nonstop list of shit. That alone is worth watching the movie the scene in Richard Dreyfuss office is one of the greatest scenes ever. But then he does a thing where he falls on the floor. I Dennis by with this so much. It's terrifying. Because this isn't a comedy. It's a movie it's a comedy. It's a funny scene showing ridiculous is, but I completely identify with it Bill Murray falls on the floor in his office starts like clutching at his chest. And just going. Richard Dreyfuss goes, Bob, what are you doing? He's like faking a heart attack. It's like. Are you having heart attack? Like, no, he goes if I fake it. I can't have it. Which? I think to a sane person who does not suffer from hypochondriac or is not. Just nuts. I think just normal person. That makes no sense to me. That makes perfect sense. If I fake it. I'm not having. If you're pretending to have a heart attack. You're not having a heart attack like. Oddly that makes perfect sense to me. Oh my God. Please go watch. What about Bob? It's so fucking funny. It's it's a great movie. Anyway, I think that's it. You guys it's been an hour three minutes, and that's minus advertisements. Pretty sure we'll have a new episode out by for thanksgiving. Thanksgiving's thursday. I think they'll have uploaded bef-, you know, by midnight. Like Wednesday night Thursday morning. So I'm going to record one. Hopefully, it will be out on thanksgiving. If not I just wanted to say, I hope you all have a great thanksgiving and get to spend it with your loved ones and. Stay healthy. Stay happy. Get yourself checked out folks. I'm out of my mind tired. I don't even know how to end us take everything I say with a grain of salt. Because we're no doctors by.
Bloodsport With Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, and Jason Concepcion
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It has never been what i owe westerner you argonne japanese. I can do it now. For the first time the true story of us can be revealed or support sensation on station with john clot blood sports story of the ultimate champion the jason it gets around us here i would say this is one of five favorite movies ever. Absolutely you have a poster enough. I have a i have a framed photo. Listen i bought a poster off off of amazon was fifteen dollars that ceiling and then i got it framed four hundred dollars and i absolutely it was like you got a professional sure i will pay four hundred dollars to frame and matt this poster. I also have an autographed picture. Fra strongly support and a framed picture of john claude van damme from it was the oddity autograph as chung leers as balloon. I scribbled on their somebody mailed to my office and i fell in love with it. Wow that's something the jason. How many times since nineteen eighty eight have you been flicking channels and stumbled over at least thirty minutes cinemax classic. Yes cinemax max action classic. I feel like as a person who would stay up late at night. I feel like you'd see this two to three times a month between the hours of eleven and two to a._m. On cinemax on a random friday night i wrote in two thousand fourteen. What's the record for most times watching blood sport even though it's not even showing a movie network worked but a local network where they keep interrupting with bad commercials that's really became its legacy about ten years ago and they would just pop on spike good channel no feeling ashes yet they. There's going to be commercials soon. I already own this on d._v._d. Or blu ray avenue watching and you're sitting through the spike commercials for movie you have on d._v._d. Sometimes the commercials make it better and i don't know how that works sometimes they do. Do you just like you get to be excited about a thing and i don't know why works that way is i. If you get a junior bacon cheeseburger from wendy's it comes with tomato on it already. I hate tomatoes yeah but i order with tomatoes. I don't know why it's better it makes you appreciate the part of the burger. You actually like i think that's what it is. Do they make movies like this anymore. More jason this specific type of movie no they don't make a martial arts action movies starring <hes> we uh-huh belgians anymore <hes> they don't. They don't really make this kind of movie anymore. Certainly not not for feels like not. I like an american market well the thing that strikes me as i watched it for the one hundred thirty seven time two nights ago they feel like they're actually fighting in every scene and i just come up from seeing hobson shah <hes> which hobson shaw's the classic it carefully wires punch punch turned punch punch. Everything's like this and buds part on like. Did that guy actually die. When chung lung cheung is he really dead is there. Did anybody write about him like i have no idea what happened. Those guys did the one guy break his leg. How much of it was israel. Israel the broken leg. You sign up for it. They said we have you got to let bowl okay on your now. They didn't have stuntman for the movie. No that was like not thing and i know the one guy really really wait. Are you mess with me now. 'cause i gotta. I gotta talk about one scene where i think there's a stuntman but i'll let you continue. They're the one part in the movie win. John damn elbows the guy in the mouth and knox's tooth out like that really happened yeah and he really got hurt. Yes situation but yeah. There were no no no stumped. They were just going for it so when when frank is running from <hes> rawlins and helmer writer and they fall into the disgusting sting waters like around hong kong i will swear to you that is not from behind. That's not force worker it can't it's i feel like i don't care who you get to do this but i'm not getting in the toxic water. That's why i ended up winning an oscar. I studied that he got his water and that's why he got an oscar. Skirt would've been nominated for this movie. Yeah those worse than leo sleeping inside the bear in the revenue like revenue. I i don't understand why they don't do this anymore. And maybe it's just the degree of difficulty is too high. Maybe you do we're going to get into it but they're like some of the greatest fighters of this era because you had in victory. The soccer movie sliced alone. They ended up using some of the greatest soccer players from the early eighties in that movie and sly stallone of michael caine which is one of the funny things about added in this movie. They're really getting some of the best guys and then <hes> the guy plays chung lease the enter. The dragon guy and there's just a level of this is not like hey the rock. We're gonna teach you some moves. Lizard dudes have been fighting since they were like nine. I can't speak for vandam. I don't know he started. I know we started. This splits probably early early when he was born. They just sat him down in the splits automatically. There's so much eleven this movie and we're going to get through all of it and i just want to get to the categories but it's a montage movie ultimately and i feel like that's what we're missing now as we head toward the end of this decade is the art of the montages just out again. Hobson shah have a montage in it. They do have a montage and it's fun and it's like guess what i'm always gonna and enjoy a montage like karate kid point when he knocks out that first kid winston art c._n._n. And there's you're the best daniel and then sunday forever. I would watch a whole movie. That was just a montage right right. You know what else is great about that that kind of style structure. This movie's a brisk minute minute hour thirty two minutes. It's it's brisk. It's brisk it just flies by and hobson shaw's like how long has moved two three and a half hour. No come on now but it's like it's a long it's too long yeah. They needed forty minutes to set up the fact that these guys weren't going to get along but they had bloodsport. It's like there's a tournament people die. Let's go here we go. They're cleaning the stadium. They're wiping the blood off making them matt nice and clean all right. Let's talk about von dame because when i did my action here championship belt. I don't think i ever gave him. The belt occupies is how you pronounce the two don van dam dam dam dam me too but that's just outvoted two to one so i think he says dom that's okay he. He also says weird shit so so his i._m._d._b. He goes here blood sport black eagle and cyborg and your thoughts on those in nineteen eighty nine thumbs up black eagle was he was buried kickboxer. Love kickboxer really good super hardcore though lionheart death warrant double impact at some point it just became a joke what the even the titles of the van dyke movie van damme van damme universal soldiers nowhere to run universal soldiers the best split you think so which one is which one do you like. I like it. I actually category should we hold giambi the whole let's hope but then around like ninety three range he kind of went up a level and i thought has acting actually got better too but he has gotten better every year hard tat hard target time cop street fighter and then my favorite one other and this one sudden death <hes>. I've really liked sudden-death. It's i argued the hockey movie. There's long hockey scenes but he ends up playing goalie. <hes> which is in just the incredible leap of faith of any nineties action movie. Maybe he puts on the equipment and plays goal goes for it in a stanley cup came for the penguins huge. It's being televised they. They don't care but <hes> but yeah at some point. He just kind of became poor. Man's schwarzenegger at is that fair. I have ranked in the pantheon well. I think if we're just doing a personal preference number one for me. He's he's an arnold over arnold definitely really really. I'm shocked the better movies lino predator <hes> like in running man. He's his. You can't argue his i._m._d._b. Page he's. He's got the the better movies but we're talking about. We're gonna make a move some guys in it. Who do you wanna see. I always want van damme over over everybody or vonda and <hes> or avendano wendy and one of them either one of them. Give me either one but i think he's just a little bit cooler. I think he's he's definitely more handsome which is like. I like that part. <hes> i just feel more drawn to him. He occupies the same plays in the late eighties early nineties that chuck norris had before him where it's like all right we have enough money for one actor when star and the rest of the movie really doesn't matter and you kinda know the beats of time and you you can put him on a poster and people will come and that was the case whether it was people going to theater renting the movie for eight years yeah so the dennis rodman movie kinda started the flip. That was probably a mistake. I and i really like about him that he's a fighter schwarzenegger's. Not a fighter schwarzenegger's. Just gonna fucking big. That's what i was trying to think what made me we love vindamme. It's there was kind of a wow factor with some of his stuff where yes stallone schwartzenegger stolen iraqi for gas s. when he's doing some of the training staff for jesus. Stallone is above schwarzenegger to for yeah but van dam like that scene when he's in the rope doing the split his mentors like when he's when he's between the chairs. You're just like what the hell hell yeah. You've never seen some of this stuff. It's really incredible and he really came along at a time to when it was like that kind of really incredibly credibly a muscular super physique kind of action star was kind of getting pushed aside because of the die hard movement you know the normal more guy kind of action star like christian slater and broken arrow show. That's a good call. There's like if you're not ready for like bruce willis to be your action hero yeah try disc smaller stallone right and he really he he thrived in that era <hes> like he really came up as at the same time as like seagal who seagal is just so ground bound and like stationary legend. He's his moves are all like a guy comes at him and he spins him around but he never moves his legs. Never removed van damme's flying all over the place doing splits. He's rolling. He's jumping up in the area jumping over the wrath. Very there's a lot to watch. I always felt like seagal dwight howard of action. Here's can you explain this week kind of stiff. He was going to get the twenty and fifty yeah. I don't know if you could win the title with them but i could definitely make the finals with them but at least fight van damme. I just feel like van damme's killing him yeah. The smart thing that he did was he was like oh you know what i should do. I'm going to be the guy who breaks your arm. I'm gonna break your arm. That's that'll be me and that's all he did for right whole career. I'm gonna break your arm or i'm gonna flip you into like a soda machine yeah he. He was just moving his hands a bunch and you thought he was doing some shit rashes doing this while you're standing in front of like he's about to siphon and then grampian abune snap your arm i think from an unintentional comedy standpoint you could make real strong cases for either kind of the bird magic of unintentional communist and ladies early nineties seagal had the fucking ridiculous ponytail out anthony tell us dressing in the karate robes and just really china china in this league load thing and poor van damme just could enact it got better as it went along but in blood sport. You're watching a. going. Do one more take director's. Cut you gotta gotta. You know that it's an issue when donald gabe is won't read ogre rowley upset and they're going to get more run. He's a movie read the movie if we to tie this back to swagger i felt the same way when you watch <hes> escape plan and it's worse than ignorance alone. Finally yes stallone is like actually acting in schwarzenegger's. There's just a fucking cardboard cutout in his mouth is moving ray same thing here but yeah give give is gated during a video game. Wait a minute hold on is he. Is he doing this. Let's into the categories because we have too much to discuss. <hes> budget of around two million made sixty five somehow dan sixty five billion dollars yeah solid. I feel like that two million is like inflated like a lot of that went into like shady pockets. I feel like when they filmed that in. I five million two million three million under the table. It made sixty five million. It's i can't imagine how much it's made in cable residuals and stuff the fight that this is a movie one hundred million dollar movie. This in roadhouse have been on for thirty years. Yes unabated roadhouse design right now so i'm like cinemax wants wants just will never end when tale these movies from the late eighties they just three decade long runs <hes> all right. We'll take a break. We'll get to the categories. 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I wrote down all these things i liked and bolo young young young young young bolo unions chongli where he gets you know in movie credits for the last guy. It's like a little extra special. They gave him that little shine nine. They show the different guys warming up and chang lease just kicking giant icebox. Yes you're ready yeah. Like how long does it take to get a giant ice block over and hang it like two hours. Seven hours chiles a boom boom boom. That's about the guy i who he jumps on a tree yeah and they cut to him running and then each it's like the worst cut ever and then his on the tree and there's coconuts now. He's chopping. Yeah incredible a monkey guy. There's a guy doing m._m._a. In front of this group of faith seem like island natives. They're holding torches and they're just kind of cheering sheringham on. I don't know what's going on there and then it cuts to ogres ray jackson and he's aired. You can get killed in that. Kuma tae enrage exits go really in so they set him up and then it cuts that how would you describe the giant guy who ends a bear hug killing that one what's what we call him giant giant smiling bear hug guy. That's his name listed on the i am looking at it right now just throwing something heavy that bulls two guys over and they got that in vonda. He's got that incredible move where he just takes guy and breaks his back like his knee nike snapping a twig yeah. Why are you smiling. You're murdering so that that sets the tone. We get to meet everybody <hes>. I don't know why i can't think of much more run from opening credits now. I know we're gonna make a lot of fun of about the movie like it's kind of a bad movie when you're like really watching it be careful but they do some really really smart things when they're making a movie this is i really powerful storytelling just setting you with all the piece of jewelry. I don't know what's going to happen but i know all of these guys. I'm going to see them. We'll be seeing them again. They're going to be substantial characters and my guess is that ice black guy is going to be a factor and the guy who is narrating the fighting arena reading like oh. This is where they're all going. I get it. I understand yeah so the next one i have. I just really like young j._v. d for some reason when he's training with the blindfolds and ways of the rope roman icon. I wrote it down as rope. Jesus cross is that. I don't know what else we would call it but and then he's like cost to the mentor going is impressed. Was that what you're supposed to do in that situation. Are you supposed to pull you back. I think he invented that one. I know i i'm not really sure what the end game into that was supposed to be. The real frank deuce said that this this device is a real thing called is called drawn and quartered and like it's the problem he he said that they put him in it for real and like whatever but yeah i would like one of those machines what happens to normal people who are in that machine. You're just every join muscle tears. It is a you split in half. Come off like when you do the chopsticks and you just pull them. Yes that's what happens to your body up to your chin. You just dangling currently it's. It's gotta be like top. Five on the set. People must have been like he'll. Why are we bonus also yeah it also can mean like how do you ensure this listen. You like we're forcing children into splits this. He's and yet but like can we like like is this okay like they're implying that they did which is allow they do. The same thing in <hes> kickboxer except a lamb down is on his back and they're cranking them. Next one is <hes>. Do you like the mentor by the way said the kind of mentor you absolutely yeah. They barred him from seven different movies that we could probably list right now. Including things and enter the dragon use the mentor. <hes> does this small scene but i like j._v. Dis the invitation being honored by breaking the bottom brick and the fact that i think is just a really important scene. I love in the movie in movies when they established like we have to do a thing to show you how cool this guy is and that's what they do with ray jackson reacts like he just like unwrapped the plasma t._v. or some o- impressed as when sean lee. I'm not impressed not at all when you watch it even ow in when i just rewatching before he recorded this and they do that. It's like a cool shot from the bottom up and you see the face at john. Club and amex is is gigantic room in the brick exposing. I think he really did that even now. I feel like he probably. I think he really think i think you do that. You know the thing about the brick so but brick back through that is true. I mean but still i don't wanna fight a brick how it physically. How would that work. How did how did that move work busting those bricks like that. How do you how do you think what you just quickly putting so much pressure at that. Bottom bricks just like some sort of law visit hey. I'm sure there's like the transfer of energy jason jason. How would you compare vonda mm-hmm moore to eleven and seven when when she has to make shit movement well obviously von and much more impressive because that's just that's just the physical power embodied within him that has nothing to do with <hes> you know cutting edge science experiments airmen's or you know enter dementia eleven hasn't p._d. Hope yeah absolutely some help. <hes> some cutting edge help multi-billion dollar a weapons program helped john john calvin damn that's all that's all that's all him and we're blowing right past the fact that he hit the top brick and that one didn't break or the second or served force down. That's really impressed. You watch changes. I do doing similar impression of eleven three. I don't go for it. That's that's all. I got you. I would also if i was smooth. Tele kinetically hold the blood in you think you can only do so much stuff. There's you're going to suit a car into the sky or put a put a piece of toilet paper next reliable seen y'all really taken for granted the fact that she's moving stuff and i know i'm calling this watchable. Most isn't fair to the montage the first round of fights a great <hes> where you really get a feel for oh okay so the people are there. There's the weird council over here. What do we call them. I don't know if they're part of the black. Dragon fighting society -ociety are not are they're. They're they're they're they're as executive council of represented whatever and then the really cool ring that kind of bends down and then everybody's just fighting there for like six minutes and we have ray jackson wins his first one and then taunts john lee get well. Let's say i tactical air. This is some wake up the sleeping disagree pre staging a mountain and the viper from game of thrones. Listen when you when you get that win win. It's incite you gotta finish. What are you doing right but you're doing. This is later. I fight it still. It just bothers me so much finish the job finish the job no i. I like him. Talkin shit immediately you like him. Setting the tone with sean liam strongly did it i when when when frank broke the brick chongli strongly start talking shit ray already knows ray jackson knows like this is part of his game. He's shit talker. Let me see what happens when i go at him and he looked a little little nervous. Are we sure he should have been called jackson. He didn't really feel like a ray jackson to me. What does it look like. I don't know he it seems. Where do you think ray jackson excellent from discussions later we do now. What state was he's definitely from somewhere where there's like a mountain nearby ooh like what if he was named sully eighty sully jackson now. I don't like sound strong enough. Would you go with. I like ray ray jackson ray jackson. What was erases martial art. Well later does not do. He does not do a single emma. Move in the movie. Unfortunately no raise brute strength. Yeah you take them down old school so we have a j._v. next to god and went twelve seconds twelve seconds and leading to ray going first first round broke the fucking world record friend yeah he's getting really loyal and then and then the song fight blood sport fight to survive had that in the back would you put it above her behind you the best by jonas yeah you're right because i don't sleep about it yeah <hes> next one the later round of fights so we're not in the semifinals yet but they have another montage 'cause. They're like you know what you know. People have montages. They know what they know how to make an action movie people some highlights from this one chang-lee just break swan peres swamp parade is just gets crushed an eyelid <hes> they didn't aiba probably isn't doing the skin frank dodd frank dukes ignoring that invite come okay tough tough look for jau. Gomez is the guy who's who's like very slow goes. Oh yea doesn't say anything and then there's the the slow motion throat-slitting in van damme's like all right cool and then beats them in ten seconds. It's five seconds that it takes as soon as kick. Some guy falls down. He kicked him off the map. Yeah should've been a new world record but nobody talks about that world the timekeeping there. I don't see anybody with a stop. Watch like how are we keeping somebody <music> this short. I think that's a world record walk. There's no way to add you. There's no clock. Nothing like not twelve seconds to. I don't know that felt really short guys. How did they get it so fast up on the scoreboard. Were those guys were wearing in the hard way. Park season terrific runs up that fast so the that one has those two and then the battle of smiling fat bear her guy i against crawling around guy who's a complicated character sweeney later. That's a tough one. There's some glimmer hope for the crawling around guy initially and then makes them for steak of the jump. Yeah you don't wanna you don't wanna close fat. Bear hug guy gets them and then that's it and then i'm jay v._d._i. Advantages with in my opinion union the probably the second best fight and this whole movie j._d. Against smiling fat bear hug guy. It's a great one where he does the stomach punch and you think it's over right <unk> scraped slo mo boone does like the shake after like this is why we this is why they did the thing with the brick so you can show us what happened yeah. He just destroyed his his and in writing it went through it went through didn't damage any of the material appear site inside and it looked broke his bottom vertebrates but he league walks backwards and then he's fine. Thanks off nails but there's no way they fate that they didn't see back then no. He hit him so he hit. They were like hey so far. We're junk lots going to <hes>. He's getting really do it here. You cool that good. How many takes you think that was that was one. Thank you think yeah. We didn't get it can we can we do it again. Lighting listen crate his little out of focus when you drop down and came over him. Can we get it again. You okay you need to breathe for a second when your liver is going into your vertebrae. Can you just step back act there. That guy's name has pamala pamala p. u. M. o. l. a. mall of the giant next re watchable seem chung. Li sean levers ray jackson very tough. You know how it's going to end. It's like goose dying and top gun. I know how it's going to play out <hes>. I don't want him to celebrate and also celebrating just a terrible idea like why are you doing that. I landed one good blow against chongli. You're right running back yeah. He's he's got to do is push him off. He was right down the down. Just fucking give him a shop. I like i like that. He's shouts that he's dead. He's dead out. He's not dead. He's just kneeling now a little bit right. I'm just before you even get to the rest of the categories. This is my favorite scene because especially really vandamme acting. That's the oscar that's the oscar. He's being held back. He just we just watched him punch. The fifth breaking second five br break pile now he's being held back by like the five seven hundred ten pound guy somehow can't get out no no no does that think it's tackler and then also it seems like ray jackson is just murdered. Apollo creed style. Yeah is pretty bad. See kind of surprised is he came out of that tough guy. I think that's why they did the thing earlier with the when he has a break when he breaks with his head yeah. I'm like okay. There's some very hard school and then <hes> you get three more lettuce rick foreshadowing the semifinals. What are the gambling lines at this point out of curiosity. Who do you have favorite. You don't know anything when you're just you've been going through this whole time. By the semi finals we have frank ducks first pokka frank dukes first paco and we have chon levers sean lem lee mung yeah and ends up being chongli still kills a guy. That's chung lee mung guy that does both do san chong lear massive massive favorites chong lease like the minus six hundred favorite. He's way up there. Everybody that fights chong is like either dead or in the hospital yeah and both of them have like the top three fastest knockouts in the history of committing powerhouse might be my favorite section actually so frank dukes against pacos just a great fight good bad wonderful. I like paco pablo's. My fucking goes guys my guy 'cause he was. The guy pretended to be my hands up here with my sisters i want to go. It's like a movie tie kind of move yeah yeah but he's also got like this kind of like vince carter like starting revenues leg up and then when he gets when when frank shakes shakes a little bit he just he adds a little bit of a like a like dancing vibe to the shoulders yeah. He's just like a very stylish fighter fun to watch so i'm in group that together with chunky kills a guy because that's not very long <hes> couple things incredible performance by the ref who never has has a word but his disgust and horror is just. Is he out there. There are no rules no none well. I think if you if you quit. I think you need to hear the quitting part. Yeah i think would be the only reason and maybe it seemed like as part of the rules. If you fell off the stage thingy you lost yeah which we never even when he goes blind at the end. We never had to worry about anyone. The stage <hes> the crowd chaining sean lee and then the council turning in the crowd quickly going. Oh this is bad and then everybody just turning their back on chongli basically including vandamme who's learning learning the customs like on the flag and charleena's these bad chunk guys. They don't appreciate your guy here in kumaon anymore. Come on they don't appreciate his like he's a. He's an excellent fighter. He's a wonderful showman he was he was really going forward and what i really like about. Jong lee is my favorite character in the movie is he was ratcheting it up every fight every battle. Every single fight is what i was going to the final target. I'm gonna knock you out. I'm gonna break your leg. I'm gonna kill hillier. Gonna stomp on your head to try to kill you now. I'm going to kill you for like it was getting worse. He's like darth vader figure to like he's. He's on the screen less than you think. Any hardly says anything seven minutes but his his feet. He's like cast this huge shadow over the entire movie. You just feel him coming. I always feel like i i still address because my son the way they use brock listener in the w. W. is how it's like barred from charnley right where he's not in there. That much says did many matches but when he's in there. You're just aware of him. The whole time doesn't say much even like jason said even when he's not there. You've you feel feels presence. You know that that's showdown is coming in. There's nothing and you can do about it <hes> and then that ends with you a next which might have been dubbed unclear if they words words were actually matching his lips at a great question. I think he said it. They might have dubbed every line he added this. It's not a question that franc versus chung lee so many twists and turns what was in the blinding powder this great step on the probably unanswerable questions early what what what was in their acid to salt pill. Why does why did he go completely blind. He didn't when they show from his is is just like blurry sure but then when he has down like he's gotta. He's like moving head around to less than i know but like come come on. He's seems completely blind what he might have been having it up. You think it's so assault i think so i feel like i read that somewhere that it was just assault saw it was some mash riot incredible incredible incredible slow motion freak out. Yes so van damme when you see that part. I feel like that was <hes>. That's the moment when you have to say like why he might be. He might be able to figure this acting thing out because that was like very pure very emotional. He was really hurt. I even now all these years later. Every time i've watched i've seen i i feel bad for him. In that moment he had worked so hard he had trained for so long and he felt like this moment is getting stolen from me because this is like tim duncan is not enough that you're allowed out to kill me if you want to but now you're going to fucking cheat sheet and and he was really hurt and that was a good moment again. Where's the council whereas any kind of officials come on. What are we doing out here. A dozen similar they're allowed rules in the in the kumaon very tough down there really good acting by him and also oh good slow mo during an era where we haven't really figured out you know effectively at all in the most good i was gonna say is that is that their most expensive day the day that they have used this film and the slow mo camera. They've got this one special hong kong camera for one day and a lot of people got paid off. That's how it played out and then incredible comeback. I would say one of the better sports movie comebacks of all time with the chips are down flying back <hes> and then they'll ask gene then damn goes to see ray jackson the hospital who's better. He's got this giant bandage lead on them leading to <hes> it returns as harley davidson bid. Anna ray holds his hand anytime any place anywhere air. You need me. I'm their friend and cuts to the girlfriend. Who's just like you're ready to crocodile friends. A little lady phraya yeah who looks near tears cut into van damme fonda. I'm vandamme fighting tears. They're still holding hands and he goes me too and it's like a moment. This is one the worse active movies probably the eighties and that's like a great seat. I it gets me emotional. That scene is more emotional than anything. Steven seagal ever did he's. He's way above love him. Yeah yeah that's gonna take this quarter. Yeah <hes> i wonder this when i did the action movie thing when they do that scene in all of aside and they turned into the new de niro pacino inexplicably what is what's it like on the set just chills it. Oh my god guys yeah. Wow oh my god. It was great amazing guys. I wonder if so they never show movies like in order yeah. They probably did that scene early on and i wonder if for the rest of the movie everyone was like what the fuck would you did before my van damme. Dad is my favorite scene in the movie but i think the most rewatch abo- is <hes> is is chocolate killing a guy. Where are you going. It's just so horrifying most remarkable. I'm going to go with just just any of the fight montages. I think the final fight is just inclined way tie for yeah. It's they're all great. This movie's really good at knowing what people wanna honesty <hes> and getting you to that point like back story. Let's do it quick and get into the fighting the fighting let's show you all the different styles of these these guys and then how about a little john claude van damme in a speedo you want that to great. We'll give that to you but i think it's for me. It's the final fight it's iconic shea. You know what i'm going different than both i like the introduction it's not even on your list the introduction of strongly for his first fight oh we get the his name comes up on the on the cards. We get that the bad guy noise. You're like oh shit here we go. He gets up out of his seat and then <hes> lynn and victor lynn like leans over and he like they they. They basically download john claude van damme. All of chongli stats is never been defeated. Who's also records include between the fastest. Kill kill guy doing their last date. Took the poor bastard right in the throat. I died right there on the platform jong setting everything perfectly for how terrifying this guy is going to be and they they stick the landing on every single part of that i love. I love a good character introduction more than anything else. In in this kind of it's usually when you got he killed the guy that's really good at that point. Kill the guy i mean yeah disguise a bad ass but but then he had all these world records say he was a really great risk kept going yeah yeah. They left out in the introduction. He's done more steroids than everybody else combined massively what's age the best i we mentioned donald gabe as ogre. This is really a trilogy for him. He starts out. He's ogre revenge in there. It's never been from that then. He's in. I intend penny h._b._o. Football series that o._j. Simpson was on and then blood sport and then. I have no idea what happened but he has a nice little five year run there. He's really great in this super. You're just like perfect sidekick where you're just like that. Guy's got that guy's got my back to worry about this guy. There's gonna be no turn. He's he's john qods buddy through and through yeah. That's it never have to worry about that with janice kenton the importance of free press like she's this out here. I've heard yeah i've heard about it just whispers on the street here for the atlantic. I'm going out there. I'm going to go undercover. I'm gonna like find out what's going on and it's really good reporter because this has been happening for hundreds of years by this point and it's never been written about and she shows up there in the room and she gets in the room. You talk like five different fighters and they're all you know. She found the guys who got invited to the underground thing. Everyone's willing to talk to her. I i like when she's doesn't take notes sitting front row but pulls at her recorder and just starts going pretty sure everyone's going to a- another more with the best of fight scenes we talked about a couple of sean lee things that i just think of age beautifully and disgustingly the blowing. The book is out of the nose is such agro villain move that he does it. I don't know seven times but i think you should done before this podcast the tone the late eighties steroids body that just nobody has any more because this better. Nobody has like just that chest yeah that whole second love seat yeah shoulder to shoulder unbelievable. It's insane the break my record now i break you like i break your friend classic. That would have been a good senior year but quit for somebody his celebrations very creepy kinda zorkin except i disagree adding that was that was like the scariest thing he could possibly he can't. He can't lift his arms head because he's got so much terrorism so he's just kind of like this jumping jumping up and down. I had a lot of trouble. I'm glad you brought that up because i i'm really thrown by his part of what makes him so sinister is like i can't read his emotions like he's smiling but he also seems like superman s. and then it's like a he's like brutally really savagely strong but also like has this weird dainty nece when he celebrating its. He's just a very strange character and really scary would you would you run into scene where he goes home and he's got a wife and two kids normal guys glasses. I got a little carried away and kill the guy taper to the part where they show him with clothes on in the in the reflection is always weird to me. I only wanna see him your shirt on dates. That is a great villain that you can't imagine having a normal life other than just brutalizing other humidity's great job by them. The peck flexes. We forget to mention unnecessary why commissioner chairman ship again. I guess yeah brought by the way it's another thing broncos or stole from chung chang lehmbruck listener yeah. He's in a tournament where you can kill the other the people you have to do everything you can to psych these guys. I guess yeah he's a world class. Fighters more would stage the best <hes> van. Damme's terrible acting is age. It's the best for me because he's so bad and i don't understand why they need to do more takes of certain scenes why they just director just cared about the fighting stuff and the dialogue was an unnecessary hindrance to what they really wanted. This movie to be was just a collection of montage of fighting. I can't say i disagree. No play the smart. They played it. Aims of vandamme definitely seven years later like pretty decent as an actor who's not decent n._s. Do and talk about the arena is the perfect arena for you. Yes for fight arena. There's it's a sandy floor. That's right. I'll go this way. This is how you know that's perfect. What would you change. You can't change anything now. You honestly wouldn't unless you want to put put alligators around the pit. Where if you fell that's already too far that stupid you wanna fall out and land in the sand and that's a lot of upkeep. Also i mean you've got to feed them and you get a clean clean. The alligator pit all that stuff. What would you change anything jason. It's kind of perfect. I love it. Also i love. I'm a big <hes> the the walled old city in hong kong which they've since knocked down really fascinates me like as as just like a strategy kowloon and to have like this secretive fighting arena like within that is just really cool and it's it's a perfect size. The other the the right number of seats the crowd is close enough that you can felim. What's the capacity there four hundred maybe u._b. Inches thing somebody it's like a middle school gym like smaller than a miracle jim embarrassing of u. of c. or ballot or did a whole pay per view that was just called kuma tei and just had four hundred people there but a lot of cameras ya que were just trying i would i would. I would wood floor or two hundred forty nine dollars. Yeah got the we mentioned. I wanna shout out stand. Bush who wrote wrote bloodsport fight to survive the song stand bush's you joe esposito of the ladies and then <hes> young frank before he it becomes vandamme but the thirteen year old awkward trying to have a bad frenchaccent vandamme. He's wearing like a number fifty five giants jersey. I don't know what's going on there. 'cause you giants hat. San francisco giants hat new york giants jersey. There's this early seventies mid seventies and in he's ruining for two teams in two different cities giants and i got an joy that there's also a kid one of those flashbacks in the bullying flashback who birtles and james t shirt <hes> which did they like do they have bottles and james merge seen in kowloon. I wonder if they knew who they were going in there for the sword or they just saw at once. They got like well. I think they were just going around well. It seems complicated. Yeah okay jason. How would you compare the first underground walk to come to the goodfellas. Scorsese one shot up shot. I think it's a very close one eight one. I'm gonna go with the scorsese edging it out because it is in the camera work. It goes on time continuous but can you deny the kuwaiti vibe bringing you into this world that you would never have access to is really. It's really something else. Cou tay also great name great incredible name coup mutate. It's the best all right. What's age the worst <hes> the acting i we covered that way. Can i add one for what's ages about. Let's do it. I really like the tournament moves structure any movie where there's a tournament and place aman because you don't have to expend a board. Let me see you move. Somebody's name yet further a gotta have that. I really like it any any fighting tournament. Absolutely it just works so we have a ringer m._m._a. Tournament we'll have a blur way we should we should have to death or what who's favorite in that to the to the maiming russillo ringer now bryan curtis bryan bryan curtis shape it the guy who is secretly the struck his hands the next time you see them. It's like football helmets. He's from texas tech edison brawls yeah. He's got the face that lets you know like i'm not gonna take any shit and if you try it. I'm gonna put you in the dirt. This these are some movies that <hes> with tournaments in them blizzard undisputed karate kid yup warrior best of the best for last minute. That's not technically tournament. It's like you know it's a accumulative tournament. <hes> enter the dragon no the classic fucking never back down mortal combat the quest which was basically blood sport to these these are these are all fantastic. There was that stretch late eighties into the early nineties where the video games started in the movies started kind of reflect the video games yeah. Where do you stand on best of the best list of him. That finished in the guy off with ten seconds left when i was little i wanted him to to kill him now. You're a piece of that now. Mike oh that makes sense. I understand now. This is is a bigger deal because he because dan shows up best of the best to when when tom needs backup like to throw that out there what's best for me is strongly. I don't know if you guys disagree and that that's the that's the pig i learned years later. Just still an off sean lien waiver such a wonderful movie character has celebration. They like all of his parts are interesting interesting. That's just so we talked about oh. That's a good one in in <hes> in warrior yeah when tom hardy's character whenever he wins a fight his celebration as he immediately leaves a ring fasten angry. That's those are the three best i think post fight celebrations strongly jumping around with that high pitch like the noise tommy leave immediately and daniel larussa like being confused every time that he doesn't my three favorite stunned like look at too is <hes> support support group of his semi girlfriend yeah. He's just double. Check in all the you'll be. You have no friends what's age. The worst is the acting we mentioned <hes> we gotta talk about the crawling guy the monkey fighter. I my monkey guy at this point. It's not great eight yeah. I gotta say i loved him for years and years before we started to think twice about some of the stuff but the style itself. Can we talk about the style <hes>. Is that really going to work as long term. I don't just around the ground to the semis. It did get him to the san. We never really saw a lot of footage of him a leading up to that. I mean we saw enough. Issam cracked that one guy's head open seemed like he he was down low. He would try to trip. The person then you jump on them was his move but it seemed like the better move would be to just stay away. I'll say the thing about his style and listen. He got the invite to the committee so you got to give him his respect that is you know it's like small ball. When it first came in. It's it's a change of pace in your surprised by it but as soon as he starts getting to the later rounds people start scouting him. You know what you know what you're going to. He's like my dad. You understand what what is happening at that. Point people have scattered them. They've been game series of. We've got about mentioned earlier about the in the beginning of the movie when they're standing around. They look like islanders. Yeah you can tell watching this move today like this was written by the white guy or a couple of white guys and they're like what do do you know anything about this. I don't know make a monkey like no. That doesn't work. Just nassiri australia's really bad guys. How do you feel about the plot with a reporter in general because i have it in what stage the worst i think there are certain aspects of it that have aged the worst like like her going undercover like basically as a call girl. Yes the get into the success of as a weapon very very that is tough asleep in with the subject of of a bad very very bad other than that that you know. It's just very interesting that trope of like how do we get the female reporter really was a trope of the seventies and eighties like had a team for instance in the making of this movie or i read about the making of a and they really wanted this to be did to action movie that everybody late in the eighty s but with a little kind of romance thrown in there trying to crack that code so at some point the two guys the aforementioned after they saw monkey guy yes they were like hey what if it's a female reporter undercover recover but she has a little thing for jean claude kneeling good good idea <hes> there's a really tough tough two minutes here post ray jackson injury with jean claude moping around yongkang. He'd just say stuff to assign. That goes goes on my own. I can be strong and it's like classic bad like worse than frank. Stallone <hes> frank stallone like wounded done this but it does lead to him on the on the the freaking whatever that is it's worth doing the split on the fifteenth floor of some balcony reconnecting to like the the thing that got him here and there's no way that there's there's no ropes. There's no safety harness up there. He's like i will get on the on the thing and i will do it i would. There's a reason you fill in this movie the way you do in hong kong because it's just like hey do we just get up there and do the split and if you fall please don't because then with the double checked his insurance i it is funny. Though for such like terribly acted probably directed movie. There are ursula really good seeds. We had a lot of that ending seen of him on that. Thing is pretty great like scorsese would have been like that's pretty good shot at us. Hong kong in the back and the next scene is just the reporter running around the <hes>. There's that lame chasing. We mentioned earlier such a fall from grace athletically politically for forest whitaker who was the star linebacker and fast times ridgemont high and was headed to the n._f._l. As the middle linebacker who could be offenses by himself and now can't run through hong kong. I just wanna read this. I just wanna read the i._m._d._b. Of forest whittaker foe to let's say you're eight only about vision okay. I won't do it vision quest eighty five then he does a bunch of t._v. Fall guy eighty five different strokes north and safran strokes series. Yes amazing stories his hero eighty six color of money scorsese. He's good in that platoon. Big herald nother great another great character. It goes back to the t._v. Hands of stranger and back to movies stakeout yeah <hes> very good morning vietnam <hes> his blood blood sport bird which i believe is nominated for bird was when it's like wow that the guy from fast is a real actor just like an incredible run to throw throw blood sport in their wild. This is like several oscar-nominated movies in this run and then blood sport. I love him in color. I like when he asked if if he's also then he had a good career but then he would just pop up in species for no reason <hes> wow why are you in. He seems like a fun guy. A forest whittaker the thing. I respect about him in addition to the fact that he's obviously like a great actor a really good actor. My man says about securing that bag species shirt what what's that sex alien. Yeah give it to me. I was just i was just in a hard hitting vietnam movie movie that was nominated for multiple oscars. Let's do the sex alien also see when i watch him move feel less like it's about him just trying to get some money and more like it's about about him just wanting to do a thing. That sounds cool <hes>. I think it's men i why can't be both. Let's mary the things together we eventually he. Eventually he won an oscar way bedia means. He's a brilliant actor eleven phone booths with with colin. I think it's basically just him and colin farrell that whole movie. I just carry it so first this time you saw this if you if somebody told you there's an oscar winner in this movie you wouldn't have picked john claude. He was out. I might not be out. I might not have picked for his whitaker either. He is sick. I would have picked the actress you put two stamps on it but he's definitely mailing it in doc another what's age the worst ray jackson's m._a. Skills considering he doesn't do the movie. I i don't really know what his style and i think he's gonna make fighter. He's just he's like. He's like a chocolate del. When chuck ladele showed up in the end gonna knock you out or you're gonna knock me out. Pick one and then young frank the accent the acting it's just it's like they just looked at some headshots and they said <hes> he kind of looks like jon because let's do this. One hundred dollars left who again this guy is a i know it's like can you try a frenchaccent or belgian accent or just anything that sounds foreign his dad when they meet up with his parents with frenchman had totally different accent yeah not an close yeah it's rough. What's the worst monkey that's gotta be. Ah yeah. It's gotta be the monkey guy reporter and the reporter and then we didn't even mention ray jackson like sexually harassing the on the train as far as very good with gigantic ray jackson leg and clouds leg hook this guy this character casting what if i i don't have any like a ton of information events of what if say honestly forest whittaker feels like a casting the fact that he's he's in it who else was up for this. Who gave him the script and he finds his podcast. That will definitely be my first question all right so blood sport what happened it feels like something like his sister's like a fiancee or something was like a we do like i have. My friend has movies doing it in hong like can you help us help this out off the best that guy ak the joey pants award given this to norman burton who he is helmer. He was yeah force workers partner. He's one of those guys. I didn't had no idea what his name was until a google that i just wanted to point out a little stretchy had he was on a lot of t._v. Shows kojak baretta harry. Oh rockford files one woman quincy chips simon and simon and knight rider just in like an eight year run like there is a certain actor that just popped up on all those shows all those procedural show so he made that i just say one thing about helmer and rollins so you're here to <hes> <hes> apprehend frank dukes this expert fighter green beret who's gone on the run to fight to the death <hes> martial arts tournament mm-hmm and you send like two dudes with stun-guns and no one else rate and you're likely at let's take would just going to cattle prod him and then i guess dragon of the plane lean like send more people like why are you doing it this way. How many people do they have to send shay like the to capture capture capture him. I minimum eight you need you need ten or twelve. I think <unk> maybe maybe the plane of people you need. Try the hotel lobby three per limb. The lavi just the two of them yeah and then raid like knocks him out at chasing susan eric all right now. I guess we got a call in the hong kong police but you gotta start there <hes> start with like fifteen people and then after repeated the ad this later for nitpicks after after repeatedly failing at their one job the whole time they're like hey. You're going to talk to the fight right because we can't get this guy. The sal rubenesque they knew a word for most egregious overacting. I i would actually say there's more underactive the overacting but i do think though no no is that has to be the choice who wins the dan waiters word biggest check vic lynn you you think so yeah yeah for sure you blowing it. Frank forget about you getting a totally for ray. You have a chance to ticket automo- joe understand. You can be the first westerner to win this thing. It's gotta be held. He's the only other guy remember from the movie. That's it sean elise. That eligible doesn't do much. The only other one i was thinking was pointing point at you pointed me guy yeah because he's in there for a minute but it's a memorable minute. He looks tough zanu muscles. These are shiny and shit. Is it possible the reporter is the dan waiters award winner no too much now. It's not as much as she's too good of an actress yes. She's too good. You need to not be that good of an actor or actress to like. Do the only really in this for seven minutes. Maybe we could shoehorn them in. Do you think it's van damme speedo in the post. Coitus does a call on over his giant but cheeks his is very around. Have you ever looked at your own but in the mirror you're not that day. No you call buddy. I want everybody there. I have no idea who wants to dan. Waiters word a half ass internet research so frank dukes his resume allegedly was three hundred and twenty nine kumaon matches seventy five to eighty undefeated and there is most consecutive cao's thirty six. This is at the end of the movie and there's just a million things on the internet about this. He might have made up everything half of it some of of it we don't we'll never know there's like a whole thing in the los angeles times. It was a big story on it. A few months after the movie came out and they just disproved everything even this they like he had a trophy that he said they gave gave to him and it turned out that he had it made like down the block from his house. He said he was in the c._i._a. And his dad was like in the massad. There's a lot of frank dukes been spending spending some tall tales. Yeah the co redder showed in lech who i think was one of the two aforementioned wet guys that she mentioned he said i had known frank dukes for a number of months for came came up with the idea of bloodsport frank told me loud tall tales much of which turned out to be bullshit stories about participating this so-called kuei events sounded like a great idea for a movie <hes> so he definitely inspired fired with stories true fall semi false whatever inspired see that was the real frank news mistake he should not. He should have not been like this happened to me. He should that have been like. I have an idea for a movie right and then just he could made twenty five march large movie. 'cause the stuff is making up was incredible. I read one story where he was talking about it and and he said that you know they owned it down for the for the movie version in the real live version. We didn't fight on his platform. We in different locations. There was one time where we fought on the temple. Simple of a building in the tiles are cracking under like the logistics of that. Is this unbeliev yeah. He's like really good at making shit up. He should have gone that way instead. He's there's this one one time. I punched these. Five bricks in the bottom line broke yeah. That's that's like a crazy thing go. You could really do that pre internet. Just be out there saying yeah. I'll stop here. What's the best for frank dukes but what's age. The worst of the movie is you can't make up shit like that running for president so yeah the <hes> he also said sheldon led edge. There was one guy who introduced me to name richard bender who claimed to a vaccine at the venue and swear everything frank told me was true a few years later a falling out with franken confessed to me that everything was ally franken coached him and what to say. I gotta say dukes yeah. I gotta say just if you can google frank dukes and look at him and obviously you know you can't judge a book by its cover doesn't look like a ninja no but it doesn't look like a fifteenth degreed green jitsu expert who like killed people for the c._i._a. Chung li down. What's what's crazy to me is when you read about him when you see him his. He's so very clearly. What steven seagal ended up coming out that i get it now. I felt he read that story seagal. I'll just do that scholars. Forget about make-up some shit. He ended up being the fighting coordinator for the foam input jean-claude three training program <hes> so this was filmed inside kowloon walled city which then got destroyed which i don't know anything about but i guess they just knocked down the whole city. I don't really understand it. <hes> i think they'd knocked it down to build an airport. Also it was like now. I'm just speaking from my cursory research over the years about this subject but it was like <hes> was a constant fire hazard and i guess like associated with crime and stuff <hes> because people would just like flea in there and no one could find and couldn't find somebody saw blake bortles we yeah we need to shut this down. I just read genesis story in the atlantic about going on for centuries reason. They're there for pulitzer. How many splits did <hes> jean claude. During this movie he does <hes> drawn and quartered when he does on the top of the temple he does on the chairs. He does when he when he fights pamala he does about four. You've used at five five five five jason. Oh wait wait and then when drags him six. Oh wow that was yeah that does count. I guess tell you was hurt for real on that. One i ask this is this. This is the split expert who laser seven. Oh then i miss thank you might have missed the one when he jumps under a smiling bear hug guy and then punches him. No i got i know it is and this one shouldn't count but but it's when he jumps up over chongli and he doesn't in the air. That's what it is. That doesn't count you did six. I found this on the internet so it's gotta be true. The fighter we mentioned was actually knocked unconscious by jean claude. Who in the teeth came out that was that was cool. They kept it in the movie. Yeah just great <hes> there's three fighters in this movie i wanted to mention go for so bolo was in enter the dragon i i don't know what his background is but he had some stuff. You're dude pock. Oh <hes> was palo toca toca toca. He was a <hes> champion yup and then michael kissy who played swan parade is who got annihilated by john lee he went on a plate tong po the main villain and kickboxer boxer. That's broken leg. That's always my favorite bit of trivia is that they went to thailand to film this movie and they couldn't find someone from thailand and to play tong po. Yes it's like fucking for the makeup on on our guy michael diarkes game that they played you know karate master or karate karate karate karate champ now's nineteen eighty-four. I love the idea that <hes> being good at karate. Champ like your actual martial arts meals on they translate translates slates to that mortal kombat apparently took huge inspiration from this film. I'm sure yeah which makes sense just never related the uh-huh johnny cage character yeah the game creator. John tobias said they wanted to make a gritty game based on the phone all right <hes> apex mountain. I'm going to say yes for donald gabe. I don't think i got this is coming off for vengeance nerds and i tan and then to be a nasa makes sixty five million is bigger than revenge of the nerds now but he's like the tenth most important person in ruben engine there this one he's like focal. I don't know it's it's in play. I think as revenge this is definitely the first time this conversation percents. Oh what donna gibbs apex was yeah. I think that'd be even donor the actress leah airs. I'm going to say yes <hes> because she was is just i looked at her and debate and it's like a hundred t._v. Shows that she was never on full-time. She had a great run with walker texas ranger apparently <hes> apparently i'm just saying. Would you go chongli aka bolo go this enter the dragon i go this. I got this because bruce lee in dragon. Yeah i think that disqualifies and all this is just like icon iq. I mean how many memes have been created because of this character about kowloon gets knocked down after is this the apex of kowloon walled city. Ooh i think that what other movies have been set in this place kind of how it lives on. Though i don't know enough about it i think i think actually the <hes> call of duty black ops to be a mountain for kowloon walled city. That's all i got for a frank. Frank dukes probably his apex about before for the internet. This is in force whitaker's apex mountain. This is this is jean. Claude van damme splits apex mountain picking nits. We mentioned everything. I just had <hes>. I just felt like everybody was too accommodating for john. Lees finishing move move it. Just let them do it. We're just like he's holding people and he's doing the he's getting the crowd up inside the guys are unconscious or somebody should have pulled them aside. I mean he got it. Stop killing people showing up john once again this was in his gimmick and then some questions about how gambling worked the kuwaiti just seems like a lot of money and people shouting and throwing them. I i didn't really do they keep track. I feel the same then we went like old wall street movies right and they're in the pit of trading places so ending papers. Yeah yeah doesn't seem official. I like when the one guy gets knocked out on the and they all throw their fucking bedding tickets on top of him. When he's laying on the ground i will say i've been to a real cockfight fight in a cockfighting arena <hes> in the philippines yeah and the way they do it. There is there's like a person who look who covers one side of the arena called the christo like christ because they hold their arms like this calling the bets and you'll just be like you'll like do some kind of hand signal and they they just literally remember what you bet and then at the end of it wildly inefficient. I'm just saying they'd somehow they remember and then if if you lose you you ball up your money into a little ball and just throw it into the ring in those and they put it in a basket and take it away and if you don't pay yeah. I guess you don't do that because then you don't leave the ernie but that's how they that's how they do it and then if you win they like ball up they take the money and they they make a little triangle football out of it and throw it up to you that sounds all skies have incredible memories. That's all i know any of the pickets yes yes. I have one why did sean claude. Van damme have to prove himself after he already had the invitation and understand why he had to break the break. You got the invitation. You're good go to factor two factor authentication. Click the. I'm not a robot and also because you don't option asia right. You don't know if that's the real guy. Just make sure it's just make sure it's i like to receive that. He was really just wanted the brick thing and they just kind of shoe her ended in ask. Your invitation is invalid. Another one then chongli who we know is the reigning champ. He has nine fights in the tournament. So this is a single elimination. The nation tournament there have to be five hundred twelve people for him to have nine fights to get to the championship that true yes. I did the math damn well. They do in beginning they cut to. There's just a ton of fighters. In hundred five hundred pile of bodies outside kowloon world's the best quote. I enjoyed. Why don't you quit round. I as a way of heckling young young frank. You didn't have to take it there. Yes brick doc that hit back became one of the iconic once a great hat tip to briefly you jackson. You look like a jackson the hills mr lynn and i'm lynn jackson okay even even victory lineker best quotes. There's a lot of quotes in this movie. The no the bolo i break you break your friend. Those are really best was could this be remade as attempt so netflix show my my instinct extinct was god no and then i started thinking about it and if they just had a show called kuma of chartered a veteran your reaction to it. I think he would have to be like hosed off. Yeah i would yeah you wouldn't hear from me for however. Many episodes were eight hundred twenty two minutes like fleabag just really short and to the point if they did they did cobra sky and it was a great gimme gimme to say yeah get on it now back to the to the thing bitter three lines that gets said to new chongli they are. What are they three lines. This is another great character building thing tomorrow. We leave for the day. That's what his trainer chosen as the first thing anybody. He says the next thing anything anybody says to him. <hes> is ray jackson. I'm gonna kill you man yeah and then the last one is van damme yellen sat. That's the only time anybody talk also like fight related stuff and i love that there's a deleted scene where he goes to visit the guy that broken leg is like simon care to tail probably an extra questions what happened to the mentor son initially the mentor goes hey man this is all about without getting my son into the cool tatum day and then but then he gets his ass kicked out of school and he's never seen again so what happened now he dies. That's why i frank comes in. That's that should be my answer for the day. Never show the death now. They show them mourning the death. If they've got a picture of what happened yeah you'd probably use in the military or something who knows no back story at all. We have three minutes of him walking sadly around kowloon to that sappy samba. We can't find out what happened to the mentor son now. Let let me also say like why is the mentors like why is the mentor son so bad at fighting. You've got like ask so bad why you've got access to this incredible resource your father who's like whoa whoa whoa. How do we know that he is bad because he got beat up by three older kids. Even that fighting the that should have been a bad as we should have been like wow that kids like the ca like when we watched the lebron james junior high last. He's got to be frank on his an on his knees he did do that. In and frank was holding a sword. He's still ran up vitamin fucking kick them but again that should be my pick for the dion waiters when the dad gives speech about how his dad his son is dead and like this tradition that we've been passing passing down from father to son father's chokes up in that moment like why can't we give him dion waiters. That's what i'm saying. That's that's good or the mom who just smiling knowingly at everybody that surfaced online another unanswerable question which already asking you what happens when you mentioned bud sports forest whittaker like you're at a dinner with him you just have if someone came in fucking love blood sports says reaction. I think he's he's thrilled about it. Tells like a kowloon story. He's got out of news stories yeah. He's crazy and they had to shut that place down force which is an all-time cool okay one hundred percent shea out of all the sporting events. You could have gone to the sports movie. How high is john lee frank dukes the finals you could have been ringside with the with the atlantic reporter. I mean the story and the two f._b._i. Storylines right themselves yeah. Is that a top five. I would have wanted to be there for the finals moment. That's got to be a number one. I think if we're just talking about the stakes we're talking about it like a a again. This is a fight to the death. We have the reigning champion who hasn't been defeated in years. We have this the first american person who has a chance to win like that's an incredible but he might die and he's there carrying on the lineage of his mentor whose son undyed that story comes out about right. That's all my god. That's that's a two thousand word feature and this is strongly coming off having just killed his second combatant right in in the tournament i that's that's got to be the soccer game victory. I'm not interested in that. This is what they had to beat the nazis and then everybody escapes and everyone in the crowd breaks through the walls leading to big story of a good story but i gotta say it's not it's not like this one. The hype surrounding would have been huge. The nazis worst the prisoners game. You're like like the nazis yeah. It's it's like it's more about the escape. It's less about like the game. It's excitement. One is dislike hype hype about shoot louden swain. I don't even know what that is vision quest. I know that one's pretty big that was i never saw vision wesson. Oh all right. Can you watch out for me to watch. That's peak. That's matthew modine greatest wrestling talk about time. Oh that one. I is that the one where he climbs up to the okay. I've seen clips of it. I think you're so excited. That's gimme chongli. Versus ranked news number one it me <hes> sidney dean and billy hoyle versus a king duck for number two. Give me you know if you pay for that. One you primarily go to the court and my third pick is gimme. The uh gimme the title game friday night lights how about how about highschool texts how doug and kate for the doubles figure skating gold in cutting edge coming off the drama i t his hockey career in tatters he switches lanes to become a figure skater and they win the goal i would i would go blades of glory slapshot title game where it's just gonna be abroad for three periods would have been fun to go to my honorable mention fourth place. The the bob sled race in cool runnings earnings. I wanna see that down there. Also you know what actually forget it. I think the most hype has to be <hes> like a dozen dead racist baseball players coming back to life to play a game or fill in a cornfield pick. I mean i mean this is like everything you know about. Reality has been overturned. Go i'm gonna i'm gonna wind up it. Give me snake in the basketball pit when he's gotta go court to court art ten seconds to make the shot and he gets it gets harder and harder and it ends with him doing a full court shot yeah and then they still try to kill him. Snake snake plus can baby this one's. It's for shea specifically. Yes best paco movie performance ever bloodsport batboys. Who's the king of the pacos. Oh blood him but i'll paco agla guy oh negro. I forgot about that one. I only in bed. That's so that's the that's the number one number two number martinez pablo from blasberg overpop- go from bad boys. Yeah i think so bad. Wasn't he talking about trump voice. Yes yeah my god sean penn. Ben sean penn bad voice. Us is a dark movie. It's a great movie though he fills the ben and i watched the last one seeing that there's eh showing the pill sheet with the soda cans. That's tough is the the exploding radio at is wild. It blew my mind when i realized that that is a guy who grew up to be the guard shawshank. I was like oh no wonder he's douay and then he ended up in <hes> in billions yeah. He got his life together yeah. He's one of those guys in which real f._m. Guy would be the best bloodsport character conor mcgregor yeah right unique unique conor mcgregor. Look we're going to reboot it in economy gregor in the in the john claude van damme real. That's where my mind was going as well. You need nate d as he conor mcgregor finds out about kuma today he's in and is doing here's. The issue or monsters are making him. Do it can conor mcgregor do like the humility required for the frank dukes now yeah. Yes you think so i think so. Did you watch his documentary is a tender guy when he wants to be he listened he meets arnold schwarzenegger and the documentary and he like freaks out about it. Arnold schwarzenegger says i'll be back line and he like melts. It's great. It's wonderful conor mcgregor. You mean nate diaz and rampage jackson okay. Was this the biggest choke job sports movie history. He's he blinds. Jean claude van damme van vandamme <hes> he blinds him the guy's blind in a very small space. He's already killed. Somebody broke. Somebody's leg and put somebody in a coma and he can't finish them off. I don't think this is not a church. You're not play around. I mean this was part of his training. I am the next day that's just incredible you have him. That's incredibly bad. Luck that you blind at the guy and it turns out train. Train fight wars yeah five blinds. I think it's jackson's is more. That's legitimate choke because he had it he had he had he had sean on the ropes oops and then he's like. That's a we were talking about reggie. That's reggie doing the barrett yeah and then the guy and then tony was toni kukoc. She has a shot afterward yeah yeah you have three kids like you could do this. One of one of the twins okay you just do the blindfold training thing that they did with with with van damme in this movie and having like walk around the table with the blindfold serve like see how much you could actually and then compare him to the other kid and see if this actually work okay could summer project for you. We're gonna try that. Put you gotta serve everyone dinner. This platform just don't feel like it would be like in two days. John clods like yeah. I'm getting them and it's like. I don't even need is. I don't think it was two days. I think it was a it was a long time. The montage stretches years times times bestselling authors chase around accused of child abuse children who is has been in karate jujitsu or anything like that. He just wants to fight people for real. That's great. We put the twins in his karate. He's like i want to actually do stuff we with the twins in karate when they were like six or seven and they loved it and it was like because you show up in the first year just doing flips yeah yeah twists in your like punching this like plastic paper or whatever and they kept going and kept going and then eventually he got like the sparring session and the hated it. They didn't want any part of it. One of the boys braxton was there and he was like he's super shy. He does not like touching other kids. You don't want any part of that and he <hes> they call them up there since they did and they're trying to get into a fight and he wouldn't he wouldn't do it. He just refused to hit them so they gave him these like styrofoam sorts then like okay hit him with the sword it gets a sort and other kid but could just as soon as they said fight he fucking opt braxton in the chest and braxton through a sort on the ground he screamed like john cod vandamme in the movie. Oh <music> and then he charged with the kid grabbed them on the floor and we're just like <hes> he got like three or four solid shots before that since a pull them off and we were lake aac know karate karate for you. That sounds like what would happen by said yeah. I don't know if it's a good idea to ever been and believe what i was watching so so if you're blinded by an illegal substance while salt with salt it's fine your would your strategy have been into sweeping. Roundhouse task kicks as part of the blind. Maybe he's over there just all around the apple around the strategy that you can't see i mean i. I actually think that's pretty good because it's that the fighting platform is not that big. I'd say falls off in real life because there's a couple points where he he's trained for just the ref f- trained for activating all of his senses yeah right any other questions melham anything else. Did we answer every question yet. I have a thousand of them but i think i would like to keep them to myself. This is gonna be <hes> i can. We'd see how this plays out who won the movie. No ma'am chongli yongli psychotic okay. I thought it was strongly to know because this movie it gets quads career going and he has like a ten year run and it's a john clyde movie but i just feel like charlie wins the movie yeah. He's one of this is one of the best sports movie villains ever if not number one and i can't think of this movie nothing yeah he's up there for me. Yeah incredible efficiency if they remade this movie would be good or bad for you is is bolo young wrongly again. He's probably sixty. East five doesn't have a liver guessing now. This is this is good. If you remake you get echo from the raid. Oh in this movie and you like let let him do the fighting stuff. I'm in the whole concept of this things happening. In some weird place it might be real might not but i'm gonna go see what it is and then it turns out to be real underground whatever i i think that should work every ten. It's it's a classic. It's a classics arguably could have been like a fast and furious setup for a movie where it's one of the guys and the gang has now fallen into this world. It's a classic setup along with the most dangerous game like we're gonna hunt human beings in this like on this island. There's a new movie. That's coming out. You'll be just that you just can keep recycling that. Every five to six years is give me a new hunting. Humans and a new martial arts tournament somewhere where in the world shea surrounding jason pleasure thanks to voodoo a leading streaming app elaborate over one hundred fifty thousand titles available to rent or buy like the hit biographical music musical rocket man over ten thousand dollars you can watch it's for free in their ads board on demand service enjoy everything from the way to sell her blockbusters to your favorite indie films without subscriptions or contracts credit card. We talked about it. Just now fatal fatal attraction whole bunch of great ones had to do dot com slash watchable san of star watching today the dow dot com slash re watchable watch this feed because we're on a little bit of <unk> watchable is run right now man. I have a couple more coming later <hes> then.
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Let's get to at six Oh nine seven hundred wwl wwl's sportstalk until nine o'clock tonight we are loaded up pack tonight. We have a lot of different guest on a lot of different subjects between now and nine o'clock, and then it's gambling fin with your reality check. Let's go straight out of the chute with early off hitter tonight, favorite of the show front of the show second. Second. Round pick of the reds back in nineteen, eighty managed for years in the reds, minor league system than the Yankees System whatever twenty one hundred games. He's in the International League Hall of fame. He went in at two thousand fourteen. He managed Your Cincinnati. Reds in two, thousand, three, two, thousand and five is always a pleasure to spend a few minutes with Dave. Miley how are you? My good friend. Good to hear your voice and me on. Argue well everybody good. Great what about you we're? We're hanging in. Their kids are going a little. Stir crazy, but we're good. I thought of you last night because you had sent a text in the middle of the show I had. I was talking with Rick Green last night, who made his Major League debut with the reds? In June of ninety nine, it was his only major league appearance. He pitched five and two thirds. Innings gave up three runs. He never got another shot in the major leagues. You Happen to be listening. You recommended the red sign him. You had him at Triple A.. You got to tell him he was coming up. What what do you remember about grade in that moment I'm tell you what he One of the best things about AAA managers you know televised debate leagues and he was. Granted access. We call the Minneapolis and also can. Be saw on Toledo Tigers, and then He was with the Milwaukee as his last year as a free agent and You know me and Buck always thought highly. Sudden reached out to To Jim Bodenham. News are indirectly time and they're recommended them. They signed him and did a job force and it was great that he got a chance to go. Especially, what Cincinnati boy as you said when you and you're probably so many stories over the years, but that moment when you're able to see the look on their face when you tell them, they are being called up. That's gotta be really cool. No doubt and I heard a little bit, and it gets to hold a conversation with him last night, but I. I do remember. when we told them on the road in Norfolk and evidently couldn't get a hold of his wife. Lady the BALLPARK and I. Looked at bucket. Grant Jackson Cohen. said. Well, thank you. She calling me for and then. You know I didn't want to tell her over the phone, but now she gave us. Rick. And it all worked out, but Yeah, that's definitely the best part of you know AAA stuff. You can talk to the guy that AAA manager You know having to release. Guys was the worst, but sending guys especially at first time like you. I remember Dan, balloons and guys like that of the world that they're going to the big leagues or something. To look on the face and. Coming through. You I earlier in the week. Ahead Eric Davis on the show. We were talking about the the decade the all decade team. The fans voted on. You you played with Eric all the way back in one thousand, nine, hundred one with you gene. You played within through the system, did did you? Could you see his his greatness unfolding as you were a teammate of his? Our I tell you what he? Probably wanted best athletes I have ever seen her plate with He. You know I don't know if they're told you. The originally signed shortstop and kind of like the Reggie Sanders story where. He made on how many areas and they moved in the Senate filled, and that was the year that that I the first year that I played in eighty one and. You know just the adjustment. He made out there I mean it just came so easy for them and You know like we talked to. It's probably been over the winter that last time I talked Eric but You know just he probably could have done anything. He wanted on high school. Basketball football didn't matter and Larry and was drafted him out of La and And you know that just tells you. How bad scouting back in the day. Before him! Side you mentioned Aaron. Boone and you had him with the reds, did you? Did you ever think that get the at the time? That guy could be a major league manager someday. What do you think of him? becoming a manager. Where you would, what is bloodline? You Know I. Never Given much thought that. That first of all aid money, getting that side of it and You know with the blood line with the. Grandfather Ray Boone and Bob and you know Brett playing, and all that kind of like the bell situation. Those guys! They were just around baseball so many times. Peres's guys like that. I thought Aaron did a terrific job. Obviously New York's not. That it's not the most easiest place to manage I'm sure but you know I think it helps them going into that espn side of it where you know the the communication and different things like that, but Aaron probably could have done anything. He wanted her baseball general manager, or whatever so very happy form talking little reds baseball with. The former reds manager member of the International League, Hall of Fame Whenever Twenty One hundred games in the minor leagues during his time. You also I forgot about this. I went back and it was looking this up. You had dion for about Twenty Game Stretch it Louisville in two thousand and one, and he was just odd, he'll almost four hundred for you and a twenty game stretch and got the call up. What was it like watching Dion? The baseball player right right He. You know we. We had a little past I guess it was around. I guess it was ninety three after after the Yankees and all that we were in Atlanta, and I got to talk to him for a long time, and hadn't seen him for a while and then Jim Jim signed him as a free agent and You Know He. He did twenty game stretch like he said he had most I. Remember about the is watching this guy go if it's not from first to third, but if ever watching them hit a triple, just amazing. But he I mean he had he had the tools and you know what he was able to do. On the football and baseball side of it and not miss a beat was. Just terrific, but he. Did you? Are you mentioned scouting and between nineteen, eighty, five and eighty six those Denver teams. You guys have Eric Davis Barry Larkin, Chris Sabo. Paulo Neo Rob Dibble. Some guy named Tracy Jones I duNno, whatever happened here, but. How about that collection of talented Denver in those years? Oh my gosh. Unbelievable they have you have just a physician players. At that time. and. That was one of 'em that I think we had five catches on that roster. At one time, it was alaniz nicely in and Keri McGrath and Joe Oliver Myself and getting anybody. Heck. Most time I got playing in catching I played who I believe. That's. The thing that you could be around. Just watch those guys that. They came in. You know like you said with Barry and. You know it was a lot of fun to watch and You know that was a that was a great summer. Those guys were very unique and it was great to watch him. Go on and help reg, do some. Great things and win the world series. What was it like as manager? The Cincinnati reds come to the ballpark every day and knowing you could write somebody like Sean Casey into the lineup. One of my favorites yeah. It was great. You know the toughest part. Probably. There was nothing about it I. Guess It was you know Bob who like I really had a lot of respect for is the one that that about doing was one that was fired when they brought me up as the interim at first, and we still had Aaron on the team, and just the way that Aaron handle it was you know it's something that I think about whenever you know when you brought up his name? That's the first thing he doesn't mind. It could have been you know could have been an awkward situation you know. We ended up trading them to the Yankees as a matter of fact and. I think that's the area that they. Run the beat the Red Sox gave a different. Governors. Out there you quick story whenever I would give him a day off? You know. He'd never shut up in the dugout and I'm like. I tell Jelly and and. You know mark various gadgets like this guy killing here. Anymore so in the National League on the double switches, so it'd be about the fifth or sixth anything like my kitchen change case gets you. Whatever and goes. Miles at that had the day off I. See man. Not Anymore okay. Out Danny Graves. That's That's beautiful. Hey, it is so great to hear voice I. I got such a big kick last night out of you text in the middle of the interview with. Rick, Green and It's it's good. We could hook up but I'm glad you're you're doing well and stay safe and opening. We can talk again soon all right. Pleasure you know, you can get a hold of me anytime. Buddy and hopefully we'll get through all this next time. Withdraw Cow, sit in the I'll be governed w and then sitting in the booth. Hey, that is a deal. Hey, thanks! They'd take care all right there. You Go Dave Miley. He's one of my favorites. Yeah, right in the middle of our interview last night with Rick Green. and Rick was talking about Dave and it was Dave who so I'm an recommended the red sign even and was pitching well at triple eight eight year in got the call and rick spoke glowingly of of Dave Dave sends me texts. Hey, say hi to him before he's he's done. Done still ahead, we'll talk. After the bottom of our. There is a new movie debuts here at a local drive in it Amelia on Friday it goes Friday Saturday Sunday. We will talk with one of the stars of that movie we. We talked with a Sycamore High School player. Who's in the movie last night tonight? We're GONNA talk with Matthew Modine. WHO HIS ROLE IN VISION? Question Nineteen Eighty Five I love that movie Big Fan of Matthew Modine will ask him about the movie chance and get caught up on some headlines as well as We get up and running six nineteen. Thanks for being here. It's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Six, twenty seven seven hundred wwl wrol. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Lands, mcallister. Thanks for being here tonight. If you were here last night if you missed the rick, green, that's available in podcast form. Rick Green was a first round pick in the nineteen ninety-two drafted the Tigers taking sixteenth overall wound up in the red system, and in ninety nine was pitching well, and he got called up to the big leagues and he pitched. Pitched in one game in relief, five and two thirds innings three runs, and he was never heard from again. They rights had to send him back with the roster move. He never made it back to the big leagues and I asked him last night about making it to the big leagues pitching well in his one and only appearance, and then never getting another chance, the fact of getting to the to the big leagues far outweighed. Fact that I didn't have a long illustrious ten. Fully vested career. That's that's the bottom line Would I've liked to have ten years in the Big League? I would have liked to have a half a season in the big league, but when you look back at the fact that I'm only one of nineteen thousand, plus that have ever lived young boys, Dream, and played a sport like a game for my profession, and and made unbelievable friendships, and traveled the world to Cuba and Spain and Canada and just done a lot of. Of things that a lot of people have done I lived two or three life times already at forty nine years old, or even when I retired at thirty one that most people just don't get to do so talk about being extremely blessed and very very fortunate Lucky and proud and and just just a happy I was able to get there. Even for one game Rick Green last night on Sports Talk May, and now that was a that was good stuff last night. Easier Classic Cup of Coffee Story a guy who gets what opportunity then that's it but consider hundred and fifty plus years of baseball. Less than twenty thousand players have had a chance to play a major league game. He did it. He pitched well and the the perspective. Really really cool up next a tomorrow. Night is premier. The movie chance at Amelia. Amelia starlight drive in. It's a story. It's got a local story attached to it and we'll talk with Matthew Modine about that. He plays a youth baseball coach in the movie will tell you about the showings how you can get involved with it. As we continue gotta check news bodily are Arndale carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred WWL W. Six thirty eight seven hundred wwl W this sportstalk Arnelle carriers stock presented by Kelsey. Chevrolet I'm Lance McAlister tomorrow night. Is that Premiere of the movie? CHANCE AT AMELIA STARLIGHT drive in! It's a locally produced and film movie about. And teenage relationships and the effects of teen suicide. It's based on the true story of Chance Smith, who played for Flash Baseball in Brown county. The film was to open in thirty nine theaters in April, but the pandemic forced a change in plans showtime tomorrow night. Saturday and Sunday is eight forty five. Our next guest stars as the Youth Baseball Coach in the film. He's played roles in full metal jacket. Stranger things weeds Birdie any given Sunday. Sunday I'm a huge fan of his nineteen eighty-five movie vision quest and his role as high school wrestler Louden Swain. It is an honor to welcome in Matthew. Modine Matthew Lance McAlister. Welcome to sportstalk. Thank you so much for having me on a pleasure to be here. How did you become involved in a project like this well my daily, who runs that Flash Baseball? His wife is really good taste and she suggested that he hire me moving. And I read the script, and and it was just so terrific I love baseball, and and so really that's all they had to say. In the first couple of pages was that that it was about baseball and I was I was pretty much in could check give me an opportunity to put put on baseball uniform and go and spend some great quality time with with young athletes who who always teach me about like. It is a boy. It's A. It's a powerful story powerful message, isn't it? It really is and it just say it's based on a true story about a young chance. They grew up there and and. and I I. Don't know how how put it in words. You know that you and I did grow up in a in a time of texting, and it's one thing for you to say that somebody or you're an idiot, and I'm GonNa Kick Your Butt after school or something, but with with texting. When you, when you put it in writing and send it to somebody's phone, it has a different impact than than Than if if you say you know what I mean. You've actually put it in writing, and you've sent it to your personal device, your phone and and It it. It carries a greater weight than than the word used to when we were in school. So you change change? Suicide is a real. Problem and We all have to do what we can to try to provide opportunity and and resources for young people who find them, so we don't have somebody that can speak to them and help them through a dark period, Matthew. How much time did you spend here shooting the film? I feel like I was I was there for a couple of but I. think it was. It was probably the only about six weeks of you know a little bit of pre-production you know getting there and getting to know the kid and and kind of you know like what I call. Get in baseball shape. getting to know Mike Daily and and his family. And his son wrote the screenplay and His wife is in the film. Does wonderful job in the film and You know! I. I like to get there early and and kind of soak it up a little bit. You know to for those who haven't seen the trailer. You play the role of chances coach. You alluded to baseball. Are you a big baseball guy? I am A. New York Yankees Fan which probably make a lot of your local. They're upset, but Yeah Yankees Fan and and I I grew up in Utah. We have a professional baseball teams so I. had to pick a team and I picked the Yankees when I lived in Utah, and we moved to San Diego when I was in junior, high school and I kind of became a padres fan. They had some good years then and. But yeah. I'm I'm a Yankees Fan I love baseball. I did another baseball movie. That's really good about. Yes played for the Pittsburgh pirates and It was called the winning season was television film, and that one I actually got to play baseball, I went out and and went. Cal ripken is a friend. And I asked him if I could go play with his farm team for the. Orioles called the Iron Verge and. That was that was a tremendous experience. You know I was telling you off air. I had a chance last night in the show to talk with Jay Kertzman a sophomore more at Sycamore. High School plays on the baseball team. He plays twelve year old chance in the movie now. He told me tell me. You can confirm this. He said you helped him with acting in. He helped you with baseball true. Certainly did. Their, Special skills their clash BASEBA- and You know to get to get the players to stop thinking and and to react in a in a way that It's a longer conversation than we have time for now, but it's a great program, and he's come up in that flash baseball system and so There was some skills that I was unfamiliar with that that he and and all the other kids taught me. To be to be a little better baseball, player I, I have to admit that I in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, I was nineteen years Old and vision quest is one of my favorite movies, and what I saw your name on the on the poster for for this I, said man. I wonder if we could hook up with him on sports talk. Could you take me back to that experience? What was doing vision quests like for you? Well I was. I was pretty young. I was living in. New York City I moved to New York to study acting and. I was helped I grew up in a surfer. You know as I say Imperial Beach California, and when I got to New York all I wanted was for people to think that was a New Yorker because you're not be on the subway and people say where you that say. I'm from here, so you have. Where are you from? And I just is is the director Harold Becker of vision quests that he said. I hired you because you still had hey in your hair. And and I was really skinny, and he said I think you're a good actor, but could you do ten pushups I might be able to do eleven. And and They sent me to spokane Washington about six weeks early and we trained trained trained. The way tim wrestling and conditioning running running. all those kids in the movie were pretty much. All of them State Championship and what I learned about that that that experience was in anybody who's ever been a grappler knows that what what you wrestling against yourself. You know you're always. You're always discovering how far you're willing to push yourself and. The extremes that you're willing to go in order to accelerate at this dairy difficult sport I just enjoyed that Michael Jordan documentary The last dance and you know Michael. Jordan is extreme example of one of those people that that Just pushed himself to to unbelievable athletic. Prowess I mean it is I. Don't know if you've seen it, but it Documentary really is. Matthew Modine checking in for just a couple of more minutes tonight on sportstalk tomorrow night is the premiere of the movie chance at Amelia starlight. Drive in film was set to open in April. The pandemic changed the plans on that sort putting it on the big screen in the starlight. Drive in Friday Saturday, Sunday eight forty, five A. Matthew. You've mentioned so many amazing names in these few minutes I gotta ask you. Take me back if you could to any given Sunday. What was it like working with Al Pacino. Allen I used to play softball together so I knew him speak. He's really good shortstop. I mean what you think it looking at it, but he moved, he moved really fast, and had a great arm headed. Great throw to first, base. Could take grounders he he. was. Great Hitter, but it was a great sex, shortstop and You know the whole movie for Jim Brown. Eye. Everywhere, you look. There was some legend, the first one I got the most. I had the most fun with was probably large Taylor in the New York giants. And and learning about how the game changed, because because of his athletic abilities as A. The middle linebacker right and and he said you know Matthew I never went looking for trouble, but it always found me. And I mean. Schaechter and Larger than life. But when a gentleman he was an al Pacino is great and Jamie Fox, and a little cool J. and Jim Brown is just. I mean another athletic legends, Jim Brown, and of course as a little boy. You don't. My father was a drive in theater manager I. Really That's that's why we were moving around all the time I started in. Loma Linda California, then Imperial Beach, and then we moved to Utah where we had about eight drive INS and So that's that's my childhood. This star like drive in screening. I lived that that's my childhood. And and the first time I saw Jim Brown. Within the dirty dozen where he was just just amazing, I really know him as a football legend. I knew him as a as a movie starring the dirty dozen. while. One final note just for reds, fans listening, and and since you're a Yankee Fan, this will fit when we think of the Yankees here. We think of nineteen seventy six. When the red swept the eighty so I'll talk that. Eight I can't tell you how much of a treat this was. And what an honor it was to talk with you. CONGRATS on this project best of luck with it and and I really appreciate your. Check it in tonight. I'll thank you for having me on the show mass. Thank you. You gotta take care and everybody. Who's GonNa movie have a good time. Buy some popcorn. Absolutely. Thank you, Matthew. By all right, take care there you go. Matthew Modine tomorrow night. The premiere of the movie chance Amelia. starlight drive in Friday Saturday, Sunday eight, forty five. It's a really the trailer is really amazing. Six forty sportstalk seven hundred WWL W. Pose it on seven o'clock, that'll be newstime news time. Don't forget gamble and then coming up tonight at nine. Your reality check from nine to midnight a shout out to uh, to a number of people Mike Daly who played chances a coach in real life. It was the executive producer. This kind of put the wheels in motion for getting Matthew on, and this goes back to Pete. Mullen camp, the baseball coach at Sycamore who would drop me an email earlier in the week and said hey one of my player. Jake herdsmen is in. In the movie if you want to talk with him and then from there. I said Oh. Man, I talk with Jake any chance I could talk with Matthew Modine and through that process I. It worked Matthew told me during the break he was He said I'm just sitting in the parking lot at home depot, waiting to buy a pressure Washer says that's how boring things are right now in California with what we're dealing with so the movie tomorrow night. it is a again locally produced and filmed. It is It's a powerful story. Sad Story! chance Smith took his life when he was sixteen. In this deals with baseball and teenage relationships in the effects of teen suicide and Matthew Modine is is the coach in the movie tomorrow night? Saturday, Sunday eight, forty five at starlight drive in in a media. Mitch caught up on some headlines. we're We're loaded up tonight. Don't have a whole lot of breathing room around a number of different guests. Let me give you some headlines. We'll talk later in the show about these Pat Brennan from the acquired checks in it seven thirty six tonight, FC Cincinnati and honest, the hiring of Yop stom-. stom-, today as the club's new head coach, Dom forty seven, he joins FC Cincinnati following a managerial stint in England and Holland prolific fifteen year playing career, so I'm play for some of the highest profile clubs in the World Manchester United Menu for one he will be formally introduced by video. Call with the media tomorrow at Ten am. We'll talk with Pat Brennan from the acquirer about it coming up at seven thirty six high school sports tonight the big news. The OJ says skills training, and all sports may resume March twenty twenty-sixth, including contact sports as long as safety protocol can be followed more on that coming up top of the hour baseball news, reds and Indian should have wrapped up their two game interleague series with the Indians in Cleveland. It would have been game forty nine of the season. They'd have an off day today. By the way on the major league level from the negotiating standpoint, the players today responded to Major League, Baseball's a health and safety guidelines that sixty seven page proposal among the topics protection of high risk, players and family members more testing greater access to the facilities, including use of the showers on. That's the health and safety stuff next step that's. That's still being worked on, but the next phase will be the revenue part of this more expected tomorrow NFL. Network Reports Club today received updated playing rules and proposals for rule changes including an alternative to the inside kick that would allow a team a chance to maintain possession, after they score a touchdown by going for it on a fourth in fifteen scenario from their twenty five yard line the idea behind it is they want the on. On side kick is no longer effective. They've changed the rules to avoid collisions. It's very rarely successful, so they're looking for ways to allow teams to at least have a shot to get back in a game now. If you score you get a chance, you can put it on the twenty five yard line and face a fourth and fifteen. If you make it, you keep possession. You don't have to kick off to the other team if If you would be stopped, the other team would take over where they tackle you golf. The symmetric tour announced today that the Plasco Charity Championship in Maine. viaud scheduled for July eighth through the tenth has been canceled due to the Kobe nineteen pandemic, the tournament will return in Twenty Twenty One east Carolina University announced today the schools eliminating men's and women's tennis, men's swimming and diving and women's swimming and diving due to the pandemic. For everything else you've missed. Go Go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred wwl W DOT com. The blog has reds and bengals got reds and mets called by Murray and Joe this date nineteen, seventy five. You can listen to the entire broadcast plus the Star of the game if you Miss Rick Green last night, if you Miss Coley Harvey Miss J Kertzman, who plays in a chance all of that plus interviews earlier in the week or always in blog form, and therefore you at seven hundred wwl w dot com up next we'll deal with the JOE. Borough Jersey mania that is sweeping the tri-state. Everybody wants one. Eric Cook, Cook, sporting goods will join me as we continue its Arnelle. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. The following takes place between seven PM and eight PM. I, we're all in seven hundred already seven hundred wwl W sportstalk till nine gamble infants abrupt the reality. Check at that point later on this hour. Pat Brennan from the enquirer talks a little FC Cincinnati coming up in the eight o'clock hour. It's tonight. Tonight's the ten year anniversary of the cyclones winning the Kelly Cup that was their second in three years. We'll talk with the voice of the cyclones at the time. Time John. Hamill we'll talk with the coach of the cyclones at the time. Chuck Weber they'll check in at eight. Oh Five, eight twenty, and then Doug Flynn the glue at eight thirty five tonight. I happened to notice. Today is the anniversary of his first major, League home run imagine being twenty four years old playing for the big red machine in nineteen, seventy five. You get to replace Joe Morgan in. In the seventh inning, your parents are in the stands, and you get your first major league home run. I I dropped Doug Flynn note on facebook today. He said sure I'll come on, so he's coming on at eight thirty six tonight to talk about that moment, so we are loaded up between now and nine o'clock alright excited to get with our next guest because I saw saw Fox nineteen in A. A, story that the German rounded, and I said all right I gotTa talk with him. Because this is clearly like sweeping the tri-state, it is Joe Borough Jersey mania that is unfolding the search for the number nine Joe Borough Jersey, and who better to turn to than the epicenter of it all the iconic cook sporting goods on Fourth Fourth Street downtown. Let's welcome in Eric. Cook Eric Lance McAlister. How are you? I'm doing great land. How're you doing tonight? I am very well and I'm glad you could spend a few minutes. Take take back, Joe. Borough was drafted. April twenty third. How would you describe the demand for the Joe Borough Jersey since that night? Well to be honest with you. It started about a week before that we were taking pre orders for season and really didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. We ordered a couple of hundred thinking well. We older, too many of these are people really going to be buying into this? You know, and then you know we. We were closed down for a couple of weeks. We opened up last Tuesday morning, and it was like Christmas morning we had twenty boxes or burrow jerseys, waiting for us and by Wednesday. They were just about all gone mad. Old Man I think everybody's frame of reference is back to Curson Palmer. Do you have a rely recollection of anything like this when Carson was drafted? Not even close, you know. Carson, was heisman trophy winner first round pick but he wasn't Jodhpur. Phenomenon I don't I. Don't really understand it fully, but the build up around Joe Borough. Compared to Carson Palmer. It's night and day. Thrill media is much much bigger so as you mentioned you are now. You're open right now. Is that correct? We are yes. We opened our doors. Turn the lights back on last Tuesday morning. We have all the safety measures in place, plexiglass masks, or required by anybody coming in, so we've been having walking customer guys last week. Yeah, do you? Do you have the borough jerseys in stock or do you have to order them at this point? We're still okay if you have if you're three XL. Or if you're a toddler or you side, we have those in stock. Still every other size. We ran out of like I said before, probably in a day or so we went through a couple of hundred, so we actually have more on order. They are telling us at Nike that we should expect him hopefully by the middle of June. Give me an idea of what say for an adult size something that I would wear. What is the cost of? Of Joe. Borough Jersey there eighty, nine, ninety nine. There's three different Nike Jersey that they make this is the cheaper of the three and really. Nike's had a manufacturing issue because of covid nineteen. They've had to shut down a lot of their facilities where they make these jerseys so really. They're only able to do the cheaper one four now. They told us during the season. They should have more hopefully. Knock on wood. capabilities to make all the others. I just checked my twitter feed and I have a question from listener. Only one of my listeners can have this question I will toss it to you. You see Chris wants to know. He has a Curson Palmer Jersey. Can he bring it in? Have you strip the Palmer off in so borough in yesterday? I had a feeling that might come up. Yeah, yes, we have done that before. We can certainly do that just happened. Get in touch with us. you know the great things about the Bengals? They love recycling numbers. You know it's not just. You from Rudy Dot in the center dent then Jeremy, Hill. That might be more of a cost effective way of doing the the Borough Jersey even buying new. Absolutely talking about Joe Borough Jersey. Mania, that has unfolding were at the epicenter of all of it with Eric Cook from Cook Sporting goods on Fourth Street downtown. Let me. Let me switch over to the reds. For a second. They had built up so much momentum in the offseason with so many signings did that translate into reds? Fans wanting reds jerseys this off season. You know I have a feeling it would. That's one of the negative things, and of course we have to keep everything perspective with everything going on in the world, but we were really looking forward to a bigger red season than we've had in a lot of years, and because we were shut down for a couple of months, we haven't seen it. you know which is a shame, but again I think whenever they do. Start to play ball again. I think there will be that excitement again so I think everybody in the city is open for that question related to the reds Shogo Akiyama. If someone wants a Shogo Jersey, does the back have shogo or does it have? Well I hope it has ocoee. The. Not. You can go the other way, too. That's beautiful. I love the flexibility. I've also always struck by this and I saw what I went to your website again today. You guys have been around this true. You guys have been around since eighteen eighty eight. That is correct, actually myself. My Cousin Ryan. Cutting Kathy word of generation, we're working there now, so we've been around for a while, not always telling sporting goods, but but you know we started with theater curtains and things like that and how we've evolved a bit over a year. Yeah. What those listening who who want more about the Borough Jersey WanNa look online. What's your website? It's www dot. Cook Sports Dot Com Cookie Style, Funky K. O. C. H. S. P.. O., T. S. COOKS DOT COM. Hey. Great catching up, appreciate the insight and best of luck going forward I. Appreciate it, thanks, thanks Eric, there you go Eric Cook Cook Sporting Goods Fourth Street downtown. They can't keep them in. Everybody wants Joe Borough Jersey. With. Casey earlier today about jerseys he has purchased. We've purchased or him. Birthdays Christmas a you name it over the years and the luck. He has had with players who he's got the Jersey of then being traded or leaving. Free Agency. Put together a really lengthy list, all right Pat Brennan fills us in on the new FC Cincinnati coach coming up at seven thirty six will continue, though it's Arnelle carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC DOT com Kelsey Chevrolet Open for sales and service with a new state of the art collision repair. Center coming in July seven hundred wwl. Seven twenty, two seven hundred wwl wrol carriers sports dot presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm lands but GALVESTON. Thanks for tagging along tonight I can offer you in blog, form and podcast for everything that happens on the show. The blog will give you various like today if you go there I have this date. Nineteen, seventy, five and calling the reds and mets game, including the Star of the game with Nuxie listen to that on your time. Also through the the blog at seven hundred wwl W, dot com and the IHEART radio APP, which is free to download in fact. 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Casey and I put together this list earlier today of Jerseys. He got in some way shape or form birthday Christmas. You name it that those players there there's like a curse that those players then moved on for whatever reason to another team he had. Carson Palmer and then Carson was gone. Had Sean Casey Never Forget the day I had to tell. Casey that Sean Casey was traded to the pirates, left-handed pitcher David Williams that went that Jersey. We had a Jeff Clevinger Jersey and then he was gone. We got a T J JERSEY. Then he was gone. He's a big Miami Heat Fan. Hey Chris Bosh. He got Chris Bosh and then Chris Bosh developed the blood disorder and was done. Playing basketball had an Adam Dunn Jersey. He Got Traded Brandon Phillips Jersey he got traded. He had Lebron Lebron left in free agency from the cavaliers. He had a Kevin. Durant Kevin Durant la left. Okay see he had dwayne. Wade who left the heat and then came back the only one he joked he has had over the years that the player has remained. Is His guy ally manning. His favorite quarterback! I was reading who was it was Rick Reilly. Googling stuff on on Jersey sales today and I found Rick Reilly, pc written want to say about a decade ago on the rules of Jerseys and he had written wearing. Jersey used to be for kids now. People with actual jobs are wearing them. The wrote at six. It's adorable at thirty six deplorable women and jerseys fine, but dude you're really going to. You're going out with another man's name on your back to you have no male pride. I've got a couple of jerseys I've got I've gone to royal. Jersey going to king. Griffey Junior Mariners Jersey have an old Sammy Sosa Cubs Jersey I have my baseball. Heaven Jersey with my name on the back like wearing that out. But, he listed his Jersey rules one. He says you may not wear Jersey past the age of twenty nine. Well that seems rather harsh He says the exceptions a you're immediately related to the person whose name is on the back or be. You are the person whose name is on the back Jersey rule number two. You may not wear a Jersey without a shirt underneath it especially. NBA Jerseys. Number Four. You may not under any circumstances where a Jersey and a hat. I'm trying to think of I've done that I probably have a Jersey remember five. You may not wear a Jersey with your name on it if you didn't wear it on a real team wants. If. I weren't on my the Power Jacks Jack Billingham's team that was. Real as a team as it gets for me. I think that means I would pass the rule. Be Able to do. It rolled over sixty said you made our a Jersey of player who's been gone from your team for more than a year unless that player is a hall of Famer, I do get a kick out of. It's like a sport for me on Sundays at Paul. Brown Stadium Ke keeping track of the the odd bengals juries like the Ron Dougans. or or the Eric Cruiser or like? Wow, you really went with the RAW DOUGANS! Jersey in you still got it a Jersey rule number seven. If you have a nose, tackle body, you must wear a nose tackles jersey. Jersey number eight absolutely no cutesy wrong colored jerseys, no pink, no camouflage. Number nine? No wearing NBA shorts with your NBA Jersey at anytime. Ten No wearing your Jersey anywhere but a to the stadium or be at home. Well I violated that. If you qualify under all edicts. Then you must sign these waivers before donning. Jersey Jersey Waiver, a by wearing a jersey. You are waiving your rights to any sexual activity for the evening. No woman in history has ever said ooh. That guy wearing the Jersey of another man. That's hot. Jersey, waiver be by wearing a jersey. You are waiving any semblance of coolest well I disputed that I I have. The last time I wore one. What no more one on what would have been opening day around here? We're the Bronson Arroyo Jersey because remember we were. We were attending opening day, and there was an opening day, but we were acting. It was to have all the cool memories, and and I that was double violation because we're the bronze Row Jersey reds at that day. That from Rick Reilly was man. That's almost you know what there's should probably be a new one because I think he wrote that about. A about a decade or so ago. I would think the the growth of Jersey sales from almost a decade ago have been off the charts I mentioned earlier. We'll get into this. Maybe a little bit later on there is no. There was a proposal today. Actually there was a response today from the players to the owners. Nothing beyond that, but I would agree with Bob Nightingale in USA Today today who who wrote this paragraph about owners and players right now in major league baseball. He wrote simply stopping. Enough already he wrote. There are thirty six million Americans who filed for unemployment the past two months. Do you think they really care who is right or who is wrong? As owners and players debate, the economics of playing baseball without fans, the last thing anyone can stomach is listening to billionaires and millionaires. Arguing over money. There was a report today. I think it was John. Hayman of CBS sports that on the players side of this there was there was great angst that. Information was getting out. That was the information that the owners wanted out that was making. The players look bad. In a perfect world, both sides we go behind closed doors and keep quiet and we wouldn't have to hear any of this of how the sausage is made. It doesn't work that way because it's all about negotiations. Unfortunately, it's all about leverage and each side ultimately is looking for leverage, and how this is presented publicly all right, hang tight. We'll get the latest on the Cincinnati News of the day. WHO Better turn to than Pat Brennan from the acquirer, and we are locked and loaded in the eight o'clock hour as well so we'd best get a check on news and curiosities Arnelle, carrier sportstalk, presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred wliw. Seven thirty eight seven hundred wwl W at sportstalk carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Arnelle carriers, your global transportation provider visit our LLC dot, com and Kelsey chevrolets open for sales and service, and they've got a new state of the Art Collision Repair Center coming in July coming up top of the hour, the tenth anniversary ten years ago tonight, some thirteen thousand were at us. Bank arena is the Cincinnati. Cyclones captured the Kelly Cup. We'll talk with their play by play voice, John Hamill and then the head coach. Chuck Weber who wants to Kelly cups in his four years here in, Cincinnati, he's actually here in Cincinnati and and has been here for awhile behind that coming up just after eight o'clock news, but the story of the the day is related to FC Cincinnati the announcement of the official hiring of your stom- Today as the club's new head coach will be formally introduced on a online video call tomorrow morning at ten am is forty seven years old the resume impressive and here to shed more light on that and talk FC. Cincinnati has been way too long and I'm very excited to welcome in from the inquire. CINCINNATI DOT COM. He is all over all things FC Cincinnati. That would be Pat Brennan. How are you? Land some great. Your introduction is entirely too kind. It has been too long what it is great. It is great especially in these times. Cowboys Fan in my correct. I I am I correct in the pronunciation Yup stom- Yup. Right got it. Now to me that you're the you're the expert so I defer to you, but this isn't some just ordinary. Joe Hiring. This is a significant big time. Hiring is not. Yeah because one lance that would have turned heads across the globe today, and maybe tomorrow is the news cycle Kinda circulates eastern part of the world, but This is a guy that was a starter on arguably. The Best Club soccer team and Manchester United during their ninety eight ninety nine season one of the best clubs soccer teams in the modern era and he wasn't just. There for the ride he was a key player. He was a starter and he's playing career alone. makes him someone that is globally note worthy I think in in the global soccer community and he's had some. This is his first coaching job I think it's fair to say he's had mixed success, but he's had mixed success. In some of the toughest most competitive leagues in the world did pretty well for himself in the second division in England, which some people argue including myself is Skillful League in the world, but the one of one of the toughest, if not the top leagues in the world because you're fighting to get into that English premier down so. He did really well one season when he was managing a club called reading see. In that second division England so Yeah, this is he was. He was considered one of the one of the best defender in the game in his era, which is not that long ago? So this is a modern player. As you said, he's only forty seven years old and Yeah, this one would have turned heads all over the globe today a pet the. The the other thing that jumps out to me. There are some guys with the big name who'll just ride on their big name to me. I look at the resume and I. See Player I see. He spent some time as a scout. He was an assistant. He's been the top guy that's. That's a well rounded resume that to me jumps out. Is that fair? Yeah one hundred percent I mean Lance. I'm sure you've seen this in the news release, but. He had a coaching stint for a an academy team at albeit a academy, one of the biggest soccer clubs in the world, so I'm sure that team quite prominent in its you know age division, and for its among its peers, but he was a youth coach, and he and he doubts that as something. He's proud of his professional development. So yeah, this is this is a guy who did not just. Kind of appear at the top levels of the game because of his big name from his playing days. He really I think put his put his nose to the grindstone and works his way up and to be named obviously to be named head Coaches Cincinnati he would have earned that, but he's. He's. I think it's definitely fair to say he. He is He's earned everything. He's gotten in the in the coaching. Aspect of his career, and that includes his job today and I also think it's important to note he hasn't. He hasn't used his name kind of in the same vein Lance. He hasn't used his name to try to get into like one of these huge huge global giant soccer clubs. They've all been like you know reading. At C that's not exactly a household name. in these in this part of the world and you know even the the quote unquote big club. He coached in the Netherlands. That was a great accomplishment in that country, but these aren't necessarily global brand, so I think he takes on attainable job and He's good at them, so they're to me. That's suggests the also knows. Maybe maybe he knows his limitations as well and knows what he's capable of succeeding at which is you know that might sound? Simplistic but some people don't have that self awareness in the game. That brandon checking in from the choir since dot com talking about FC Cincinnati, they announced at the club's new head coach today. He'll be official introduced to the media tomorrow we'll. We'll see him on zoom tomorrow win. Here's the big question. When might he actually be here in able to get hands on with his new club? Really good question, my answer to you is I. Don't have a firm answer on that yet, but when you look at. The situation with the pandemic and some of the government rules and regulations closed borders. that. He's going to be facing. I mean let me let me I mean that's all part of this right now. And that for some people suggest today that, because maybe they announced the higher now because they've found a window or some way to get him into the country, so they can start the immigration process if that's true great i. don't I have to think probably not the case just because hot. How serious depend damage is being treated and most of the world's Nancy so. I think that You know. Challenge? I can tell I could tell him her answer yes. Looks. Just. Put It in perspective, you know. There were three players, three new players that FC Cincinnati acquired in the off season, and who they are exactly. It doesn't really matter and people. Will Your Cardio One Adrian right gets in FC Cincinnati. Was All not just see Cincinnati curbs route about less or having Longer than usual they were dealing with longer than usual processing times and timelines the immigration process just because. You know this isn't a political comment about I think it's was largely seen just because of the regime. That's Running our country right now, and that is what it is but that was so `immigration was already a longer process of these clubs accustomed to, and that was before the pants. Okay, so now you have to paint. Borders closed not just here in the places where you know in the in the part of the world where you off is coming from, too, so if it like, if if like people theorized today. If there's a window a way to get him in now to start the process awesome. where? That's possible at this time, so it could be a while, and it could be a situation, you know it's Kinda. Doubly concerning because it seems like mls has thrown all its eggs into this Orlando plan. Some people have talked about relocating all the teams to Orlando to resume practice like real practice, and maybe some form of competitive games, and if that planning gets off the ground land, it could start as early as June though we're talking less than two weeks out from that, so it's hard to imagine yourself being able to work. In the full managerial capacity, even in the best of circumstances, just considering the time line, he might be up against, so it could be a while but I think FC Cincinnati just like they said when they set out on this head coaching search, you know this is not about a short term, fix? This is a look. This is about a plan. Plan for their future so I think they have an eye to twenty twenty, one as much and maybe more as they do. Have as they have an IDA twenty twenty here now Pat Brennan checking in from the Acquire Cincinnati. Dot Com speaking of plans for the future any sense of what the future now might hold for current interim coach Yawn demet. You're you're bringing the heat tonight. Really good. Question I asked You I asked her about that last week. At the time, it had been approached with the assistance in the club I would assume so some progress towards some end has been made in the week since that interview took place with your camper general manager But it's a it's a really interesting situation now. Because Johan has been a team player club, first mentality put Cincinnati. Number one on the priority list in seemingly every situation he's been confronted with. Guided the team through a really ugly periods. That really wasn't. Any he really can't take too much blame for what happened on the field last year, and yet he he chose to preside over their head coach and. took some bumps and scrapes. That came with that so. That he really values this guy. You talk about prospects you know on the playing side, but this was a prospect for the coaching side and someone they want to develop. You know. As time has passed and she's been. Essentially you know there's really. Blunt way to say he's been looked. He's been passed over for the place now. In the meantime he's built up a heck of a little resume for himself so I. Don't know that he wouldn't have elsewhere my guesses. His inclination would be to want to stay around with FC Cincinnati but I think you had some saying that, too. Because just like in baseball just like in football in soccer you want to. It's not a it's. It doesn't mean you don't want isn't trustworthy. Yours a guy he just yup might want him to leave. Just because doesn't own, and it's as simple as that and he wants to bring in his guys. He's already bringing in one existent Any off just might want to have his speech around it by guys, and that's that's. That's a fair new head coach in any country. In the world so to determine about Yawns Ama. I think Cincinnati thrilled to find a way to keep him around. I think he would want to be around, but Yeah. This is a little bit different than when Ron hired and. Yuan was touted as maybe the next generation of head coach Cincinnati because who rod really quickly. Next generation is here with Yop. And I think the distant future, maybe even quite as clear for yawns as it was yesterday great catching up with you one more for you got about a minute, so do a Do a reset for us if you consider it. I know we were a couple of games into this thing when things were shut down, but from a roster standpoint, the additions locadia and others now GM in place coach in place is your sense that this club is on a solid path with a map that is taking them in the right direction. Yeah absolutely. I think they've got a lot of the. They've got more of the right players. they definitely have the general manager in place, and he's able to use his direct networks. Put some other things in place. In terms of players, now toys with the head coach, and hopefully this one goes better than last time, but there's a clear a clear plan I thought. Cincinnati already looked at light years ahead of where they were in terms of the play in the first two games. The club was. And when it was but I, think I think without question and this is the trade. Move in the right direction lance. A It is so cool to talk. Talk FC Cincinnati with the appreciate your making the time good to hear your voice, stay safe and hoping talk again soon. Absolutely thanks so much land. Talk to you again. He is a Pat Brennan from the inquiries on twitter. P Brennan E N Cube p Brennan Espn N. Q. of course at p Brennan and take a timeout continue sportstalk seven hundred WWL W. Down the stretch. 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And in the eight o'clock hour we go eight eight on seven hundred wwl. WWL's carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet I'm Lance. McAlister one hour from now brace yourself your reality. Check is on the way with gamble and fin for the moment there. Let's turn back the clock. Go with me back ten years ago tonight to US bank arena, the completion of an improbable run a journey to to hoist the Kelly Cup the cyclones in front of thirteen, thousand, four, hundred, eighty-three, captured the Kelly Cup. They're second in three years. The run started as the number five seed. They were down three in the conference finals. All of it wrapped up ten years ago. Tonight and it sat at like this. By Hamilton drops it down to the corner. That's. going. To. Ten what it improbable. Season as. Cycles wind up knocking off. South Carolina. First, round but depending Kelly Cup champions. The second round. Of the American. Season champion Charlotte checkers. Three they come from all three nothing. To advance this round as against Bram trump champions. The Idaho steelheads the cycle don't have to go the full length the series. They take care of it here in five games tonight. Your final score to till on listen to the crowd that night man I get chills here in that. Let's welcome in the man behind the MIC. Who witnessed that run? He was the radio play by play voice. He was the media relations director. He did it all for the Cincinnati cyclones that would be John. Hamill! How are you? Doing well. Thanks for having me. You got it as you hear that and you think back, Gimme the Gimme, the emotions of just a spectacular run. What what stands out about that team in that run to you? You, know the things that jumped out. There were three things. I thought I was the resiliency of the team six times postseason Lance. It was winter. Go home, and and they punched him in the mouth sticks. you know eight times in that? In that playoffs they had come from behind wins and four times with most goals. You know your your second point that I had there was. they played hard when it mattered the most you know the. We're GONNA talk about it here. Just a minute with the reading series, but big played nine teams and fourteen days, and they've won eight of nine so. You're you're pretty good there. And then of course the goaltending everybody saw Robert Meyer in the lights, bright and He was great. Don't get me wrong, but journey Smith in the first round. Put on one of the best goaltending performances I ever see so. Those were the three big points I took out of everything trane John Give me some. Kind of Flash, the memories of the fans back in time to some of the the names the impact guys on that team that you think of instantly when you think of that season of that accomplishment. Oh golly! For sure the cats into the team you know he was great. During the regular season scoring round up with nine goals in the post, season and stuff since sproat who? was just spectacular with eleven goals in the postseason, and then not Jimmy Kilpatrick who've been good all season Brett, Robinson, gets the game winner, and then you go on on the back side. You know with Cashman. Who played most of the year in the American League now? He's the assistant coach with the Washington capitals. Jason Joseph He's been eliminated by the cyclones when he was in Toledo not always in seven, and then in Vegas. No wait. I guess if you can't beat him. You better join them. With two goalies. That that that was a good man. Oh, man John, Hamill, checking in the outstanding play-by-play Voice of the cyclones ten years ago tonight, when they hoist the Kelly Cup and win the Cup for the second time in three years. We're GONNA be joined coming up in our next segment by Chuck Weber, the coach of that team John You sent me a a lot of notes leading up to this which I cannot thank you enough for and one that jumped out to me a Michael Jordan aspect of this. Tell that story if you could. Absolutely Obviously, he was the owner of the Charlotte basketball team. And when we showed up to the arena for game six, it was morning skate that day, and we were coming into the building at exactly the same moment. Michael Jordan was and. It's because we're coming in MJ. You know you know good luck, you guys. You hear playing very quickly. Guys win tonight what we go out and and didn't do so well. We lost three nothing, so my job at seven was to make sure he was nowhere. That's beautiful. Lover Steve Kerr when we need exactly exactly I mentioned. We're going to talk with a truck in the next segment, but let me ask you working with Chuck pre-game interviews around him all the time practice bus. What was Chuck Weber like? Tell me about the impact. He had on that team. 'cause man he. He had a magic time. He won one hundred and seventy seven games in four years here in forty five playoff games when he was here. He was spectacular the biggest. Capita can give chop. He was he was terrific with managing the people. He's one of the festive value raiders of talent that I've ever been around any sports and when when it comes, I worked with sparky with both Becker with huggins and John. Harbaugh I put him in that echelon. Both both for being on. The floor as well as being behind the scenes I mean just spectacular. I can't say enough. Good things I think the thing that media jumps out the most. You gotta remember. We had checks here for four seasons was really closer to five because in an E C H L season, their seventy two games in four years. He coached seventy one play. Man, unbelievable before. Let your catch everybody up. Kick Cyclone. Fans up! What are you up to these days? What what keeps you busy? Well I'll tell you what I bought. My White Tear with about a thousand stories from that. Put. Every every time I think about something I'll throw out a note and I just see the is role but For me since I left the organization I work with the great education seem over its huber providing solutions for feeding scoop. Kids in school also they. They fix a bunch of my time and I'm I'm certainly glad to be involved with that and you know. If. It's been a good run for me all the way around. I had eight great years with the cyclones. I can't think those people enough for everything they did to me. John this was a blast. I can't tell you how much it means you sent me an email. A couple of weeks ago, gave me a heads up, but I circled it on the calendar. I love on this data sports things related to this town. I love taking fans back to those moments, and your notes were perfect, and the fact that you help lineup. Chuck in our next segment was was fantastic. It means a great deal to me and thank you. Absolutely I certainly appreciated and Why can't wait to hear what chuck say John Thank you take care. Stay safe. Are they all right there? You Go John Hamill the voice of that team ten years ago, tonight cyclones always the cup in front of thirteen, thousand, four, eighty, three at US bank arena up next the coach. He won two Kelly. Cup titles four years here one hundred and seventy seven wins, forty-five playoff wins check. Wherever will join US next? It's Arnaud. Carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on seven hundred wliw. Plumbing. Eight twenty three seven hundred wwl W it's Sportstalk Arnelle carriers for dot presented by Chelsea Chevrolet I'm Landsberg McAlister thanks for hanging out tagging along tonight the theme in this half hour ten years ago tonight cyclones hoist the Kelly Cup and it completely a magical run through the postseason. Our next guest guided the Cincinnati cyclones to Kelly cups in his four seasons, one, hundred, seventy, seven regular season, wins forty five playoff wins. It is a pleasure to welcome and former head coach of the Cincinnati cyclones. Chuck Weber coach. Lance McAlister. How are you doing great? Great to hear voice. It is great. Oh, everything is fantastic. I'm so excited to talk with you. When I found out that John said you were going to be able to join me. I wonder as you think back ten years ago tonight, the the sense of pride and accomplishment, and how magical that run was just just an amazing run wasn't. Was Yeah especially with us being the fifth seed in the playoffs, so it wasn't like the year in a await were basically the the leader right out of the gate to the finish line and you know. We went through so much adversity I think we went through almost forty five players during the regular season and with everything else going on, and you know we again. We were cheesy. One every what I probably hammered, so we want every even game the first two rows. Put put ourselves down three nothing against writing and and then came back, and then quick turnaround flute up Boise, Idaho. Wouldn't that would four games to one that was that was the easiest of all the series. Swell! Take take me back to the conference finals, and you delivered a speech. The just win a period speech. Tell me about that, yeah! I don't really think it was so much the speeches. The guys were a good spot, and it was it was. We had nothing to lose We were down three. You know we were in every game didn't get a bounce hereabouts there. It was kind of a weird. Because reading was actually the fifth see, but reading I. Think was the six or seven They had upset a couple of higher seats as well and We went down and you know I think just the you know. Our energy levels the first Toronto to catch up with us a little bit. Cinco de Mayo happens and. Most people at her. The urban legend is true. Our boys when I got drunk. And we had we had three days off or three forties off. Actually you could. Bon Jovi was using writings arenas Hassan check. System so we played three games, and then we've had I was like four days off so Cinco de Maya. The boys were like Hey. One glass of Danner have a couple of drinks I'm like that's fine. And they came in the next day reeking of like Ben Gay and big red trying to hide it. And everything else. Fortunately our guys out there, guys. and. We started chipping away. Yeah, we I just I said. Hey, you know a couple of people that are you get mad? You know they're drinking. It's the conference finals and guys were down three in, and you know a big speech or getting angry, trying to pull events Lombardi or something like that. It's not gonNA work and. Guys you know and we need to win a period know we're not going to win four games in the first minute of game for a period I think. Cam told me I. Think the remaining twelve periods. We were ten to kind of saying that we just started chipping away. We had a couple of tough lineup. Decisions some guy. It just wasn't working for you. Especially one of our guys, so I sat him, and that was kind of I. Think the guys in the locker room, or she's one of our leading scores and guys like Oh. Wow, chuck's really well. Sit early scores to try to win this and get whatever it takes, and he actually sat all four games that we came back. Played All five games in the finals, and I think their second or third leading scored in the whole playoffs, ready missiles sports, those are the four games, and we had a couple of hard talks and early on, and it just wasn't working I was like. Hey, you're not going tonight game four. He's just looked at me and I was like yeah, and then game five. He okay like no. You're not going tonight either. then. He realized he wasn't playing the rest of the series and he came after Game Seventies. Like Hey, I understand. And you know I'm you're if you got? If you need me and game when I'm like you're playing a game? Wow, well, you know. And they were all went from there shook. What did it mean you? You win it on home ice in front of thirteen, thousand, four, hundred, eighty three. What did it mean to do it there in and your sense of what it meant to the fans that night? It was unbelievable, especially going through it just two years earlier, you know in two thousand, eight, seeing the crowds, and you know the and stuff that we had for that for that Round Against Vegas To have that huge crowd come in and one of the things. We had some great crowds during the regular season. You know, ray ray hair are owner and Kristen and the whole front office had done a great job. You know and and John had done great with promoting the teams through his. You know with with him with his job and. It was just one of those. They just kept pouring in people pouring in and pouring in and especially when we went up to what late when Brett Robinson took the shot in, and everyone starts chanting. We want the cup, and then it started going. We want the cup again. You, you been in many different cities over the years. Is it fair to say that the city of Cincinnati holds a very special place in your heart it does you know my first head coaching job A lot of hockey over those four years. You know I take a lot of pride. In the standpoint, we went from my first year in two thousand six, never player. New Franchise. We were just starting up again. you know we had the brand name, but we have the team yet. You know so you know. When when ray brought the end. We feel that first year we lost in the division finals. Then we win it. We're losing the conference finals, and then we win it again. and then Jeez know three of the next four coaches fall played for me, skull the. For Orlando, Matt McDonald won a championship with me in A. Great Hanau with Mattie Thomas Coach against. Mattie for decades and you know so just the standpoint that the team has been so successful now. You know that's fourteen fifteen year stretch. I think they've only made me miss the playoffs one year. Or two years, and you know to win a cup I you know I think if you're GONNA look down. The history of Cincinnati pro sport is probably one of the most successful runs here over a decade and a half in Cincinnati history check I got about a minute. Listeners what are you up to these days? Where are you these days? I Am Coaching College Hockey Now I'm at Rensselaer. Polytechnic Institute, so for the hockey fans. It's an easy school. famous for guys like Adam oates. Mike mcphee Joey Juno. Up Their PUPA, those types of guys we've had about fifty or sixty NHL players come through our doors. This is your to from the college hockey working with a guy by the name of Dave Smith. WHO's the head coach here? WHO's been a long friend? And I have a four year old, also GonNa the the yeah, the jumping around of pro-jo hit nineteen years a pro coaching. And just decided to change gears a Little Bit Movie Division One College Hockey, and that's what I've been doing so. He has in the American League and went to Europe and now putting some routes down here, North America and doing the college solitaire. Excellent Hey I'll let you go. The show that follows me tonight is the reality check. One half of that is Tom Gamble Tom. Gamble called during the break and said to tell you he said hello. I. Spent a lot of good times with him those last couple of years and yeah, it definitely missed. Those guys miss all the people and the the fans. especially it was such a special place and you know it's funny that the replaying the game tonight on YouTube the replay replaying game five tonight live and I'm. GonNa Replay win from two thousand eight, as well so cyclones are doing a great job staying that sports landscape there Cincinnati Excellent Jukka so great to hear your voice so great catching up with the appreciate the time congrats on everything you have going on and best of luck going forward. All land. They take care there you go, check Weber head coach of the cyclones ten years ago tonight. When they won the Kelly Cup for the second time. In three years I am way late news time and then Doug flat around the corner on the anniversary tonight of his first Major League home run with the big red machine after we check news carrier sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WWL W. Eight forty one seven hundred wwl W! It's Arnelle. Carriers sportstalk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Gambling fin warming up with the reality. Check coming up at nine o'clock. Down Try! Am I setting up our next guest publicly what? Yeah all right, L.! Let me flashing back even further. Let me go back to May. Twenty First Nineteen seventy this date, nine, thousand, nine hundred seventy five riverfront stadium. Our next guest stepped to the plate at satellite like this ready again with the next good. Talk. Fabric. What I? Hear a lot bear. Home Right at eleven of. Fanatic! Why what that young man? Only going praises Brian. I'll tell you. What is that ball with a whole lot of authority off the Beijing Green? Heading to back, no, it is not let's welcome in. He hit that home. Run this date. One, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy five. It would be doug. Flynn how are you? Doing also and words that were never spoken again for the next eleven years Doug, plan. Hammers out of the. First things first. How good that I bumped in with the Oak Ridge Boys? I heard it. This is a great intro. Still dear friend and You know they're still getting after every day they shoot. They don't I. Don't know two hundred and something days a year. and. They got a couple of guys that are pushing eighty I, mean they are? Right now tell me the truth I. Message You on facebook today to tell you about this anniversary. Were you aware this was the anniversary of your first Major League home run? I was not. you know. One would be. You know I I can remember it pretty well because I don't up to the plate I'm not sure how I got into the game. We were up eight four replaced replace Joe in the seventh inning looked it up. Okay, and all the close to bunt, yes. Out with the three and one. Down Valleys Grandma's and he didn't have the gun on and I said all right I know I miss? The science stepped out. Look back down to Alex. he went through the signs again. No, but all right. I'm probably going to get fined for this, but I'm swinging. And Years later Johnny Bench told me he said you can thank me for your first home run. How's that? He said well spark button. Sparking we're up eight to four kid hit. Wow, Leno, and then that was a pretty historical game because I say. We went on a pretty good run after that. In fact, you did from that point forward. You One forty one of your next fifty games. How about that? That's pretty impressive. I, know we put at least separated. It was an unbelievable run. I think. We had a couple of ten win streaks in there and just. Made it so fun. You know that was my first year, so not knowing what to expect. Or how did this team really was? There seemed to be a lot of pressure on that year because they had one in seventy, and they didn't win and seventy two seventy, three got beat the division. With the mets and now. Everybody was starting to say I. It's the big red machine, but they haven't won it yet. So you know that started just relaxing, everybody and just incredible run from there on out and Doug, not only a special moment, because it was your first major. League home, but your family was there that not right. You, know they. They came up. Be Miles south so they would come up to quite a few games and. There were so many things blake year when people say. What was your highlight of your career or your first year? We'll good night. You know you get cut. Bring Your College team three years later. You're in the big leagues. Your I hit you in the locker room with so many superstars and then. Golly I. It's hard to really put. In the exact time Texas exactly how fabulous everything was I'm so fortunate to be there. At the right time Doug I also I listened to that I found that game on Youtube today I listen to it and you were the star of the game, so I was. It was funny because you you. You sounded so young and so nervous talking with Nuxie in the post game. What a moment! That must've been well. You know those guys I've watched one of the kid growing. Into, the game, and then all of a sudden. You're the guy sitting in the dugout with Joe Nuxhall. I mean. If you listen to the broadcast the home run, he was more excited. I think than anybody. Yes, yes, and then s you get to know Joe you realize. Wow, that's how special guy he was not only was a great player and admired by so many people but I. Don't know of anybody that has a better name throughout Cincinnati history than Joe Nutso. To think about it, you're you're twenty four at the time you're from Washington. You're playing on a team that becomes the big red machine. What what a moment in your life. Nobody has built that bad. What. So much. So much fun with and but you know the great thing about it is anywhere you go and people say you're part of the big red machine without even thinking they can the starting lineup and I. There's not a whole lot of ball clubs that have people that remember the starting lineup. Except for the ones you know when their local fans but shoot, everybody can tell you who was on that team. They were like Rockstar it just so fun to be around. Catch everybody up before I. Let you run and manage great catching up with you. What are what are you up to these days? What keeps you busy well? I've been Dimple Bank here Lexington for twenty two years of course, but like everybody else just trying to stay healthy. Yeah, my mom and dad or ninety two, and they're over and assisted living right now, so we did a little visit with them. Them today from social distancing, but you know my older daughter doing really well taken care of the House fixing up stuff and do a little fishing golfing and just can't wait to give a big hug a lot of my buddies that I haven't seen for a while no question. Hey, this was really cool of you. I'm so glad we could hook up and I appreciate you checking in tonight. To relive the moment on this date nineteen seventy-five way if you're the best buddy I take to pass and you guys stay safe sounds good thanks doug. All right buddy there you go, Doug Flynn the glue. Is that big red machine back to back? World series titles won a gold glove with the mets this date. Riverfront Stadium Nineteen seventy five. He homered off Tom Hall and he was exactly right because I, listening to the broadcast I heard the moment that count went to three, and why he had tried to bunt earlier in the at Bat, and eventually took off the side of the fact. He tells the story was it was Johnny. Who told Sparky let the kid hit? And he did and homer the the first of his major league career, he would go on to hit six more in his major league career total of seven home runs. That was really cool. We'll take our final time out head down the stretch. Try to squeeze in a couple of more notes on this date in reds, history, darnall carrier sports talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet Seven Hundred W. and. The music sets us on our way on this date in reds history to wrap things up. We go back to nineteen forty six. The reds are nearly stranded due to a nationwide rail strike coming back from Boston to Cincinnati they. Reach Buffalo before the midnight strike. They had to travel to Cleveland. The players did in taxi cabs. Then stay over and bust home to Cincinnati that courtesy of red leg journal, which is my source for most of this that I loved that book one thousand nine hundred. Eighty two the defending national champion dodgers ripped the reds for fifteen runs in the first inning. You'll blackwell's started for the reds. The reds used four pitchers in the first inning. Dodger's went on to win nineteen to one at ebbets field, nineteen consecutive batters reached in the first inning. Joe nuxhall pitched the final three innings, allowing no runs that was his second major league appearance eight years after his first appearance at the age of fifteen. And come to think of it, he debuted in eighteen nothing game. His second appearance was in nineteen one game this they nineteen, sixty three Jim, Maloney ties a team record for strikeouts nine innings with sixteen. He pitched a two hitter eight and a third innings beat the braves to nothing at county stadium. He struck out eight in a row. At one point, he won twenty three games that year, striking out two hundred and sixty five in two hundred and fifty days this date, one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five, as we mentioned with Doug Flynn. The reds trailed Tom, sieber three nothing at Riverfront. They rallied to win four or eleven to four. They were twenty and twenty entering the game. They would proceed to win forty one of their next fifty, and the big red machine was on its way this date nineteen ninety reds over the cubs, four three at Wrigley Jose Real Beats Greg Maddux. Six and a third innings of one earned run baseball that nasty boys finished off the final two and two thirds I noticed bill long the pride of molar pitch for the cubs in that game, the reds were twenty six and nine date in nineteen, nine, hundred, ninety, the state two. Two Thousand and one day after being stunned by a seven-run bottom of the ninth walk off Grand Slam by the braves, the reds regrouped and one in Cleveland, seventy four and Cocoa Francisco Cordero, who give it up the Grand Slam the day before cleaned up with a ninth inning, save in the game and finally this date two thousand twelve Michalik eight innings of one run baseball for the win. Reds beat the braves four one at great, American Ballpark drew stubbs homers twice Mike Lee. The first of six for his Major League career in Zach, Coz are homered as the reds knocked off the braves all this date in reds history there you go by the way or the other The other note in actually dropped him. A A message a DM on twitter, trying to get him on tonight. It was also on this date, two thousand and twelve in that game that Kaleb Lloyd. A local guy caught two of those home runs. He caught leaks home, run ball, and then Coz art very next batter he. He homered into the left center field, bleachers and Caleb Lloyd caught both of them. Actually the first one he barehanded, it bounced out of his hand. It stung in pretty good, but he picked it up, and then the very next batter Coz art hit one that bounced into his lap. He didn't keep either ball. He gave the League home. Run back to the reds to give to leak and the second home run. He gave to a friend who went to the game with who had given him the ticket for the game. Caleb Lloyd. If you're listening I, was looking for you today to be a guest on the show to tell that story, but we missed each other, but cool story back to back home runs to the same guy at great American ballpark on this date all right? I gotTA get Outta here I'm told and I'm going to need some time to recover from this. At least the the imagery I am told that not only do the do gamble. And Finn Deliver the reality check coming up in a matter of a minute or so, but at ten fifty. They are staging a pure romance party. 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