12 Episode results for "Lou Aaron"
RHONY: Ya Flooze Ya Lose
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And they say the every effing place you stop. It's like been cheese, you know. Yeah. Several everyone on the flight. There was a lady who's like I'll take them middle seat. I don't mind I was like. The woman behind me. She sat in the wrong to you by accident and the guys like, I think you're in my features like oh, I'm so sorry. Not a worry. I'll take your seeds. Asked him out. And he said, did you hear that lady? I said did she do that five times because I just can't? Oh, sorry. And I think she just kept sitting on the wrong seat just as she could say she's sorry to people there was like everyone with apologizing on the airplane like normal, every other flavor, you've been on everyone's like both, you know. Yeah. You want to see what motherfucker people are you fly? You know, everybody knows that people are horrible on airplanes. But anyway, it's really a little bit bumpy, right? It's really exciting to be here. My friend. My. My friend. Nikki is here somewhere. Where are you neck age? She's here somewhere a high she's here. And I got to I walked on the stone arch bridge too. I had no idea the Mississippi River came up here. That's crazy. Cleasing guess ri- watt nowhere. I didn't watch. Anywhere. Almost had them Dolly, my ass from the Uber into the hotel room did not walk anywhere today. Anyway, I still ate, I'm like a pacman. I will find something to jump on every inch of where I am, like eating eating the hotel key on the way up. Listen, so we're so excited to be here for this epoch episode of real hassle. I was gonna say, welcome to watch or crap ends podcast. But all the grandpa Bravo we love to watch. Look, y'all even got me metal straws. We come on time to save the turtles Nowak. We can't just simply dive into real houses near we have to get our. Yeah. We gotta be ship based by the end of this. I want Ben thinking it's at on the table and falling on the ground. We have to make sure there's like some padding down here for. Us. Oh, okay. So. Separate one. What there's yeah. To splash of water keeping healthy guy. Does the reason I only let forty three? Forty years old. Okay. You guys this episode. We're, we're like, oh, and thanks for this old navy. Name tag, by the way, where we are the oh, there's says, Ronnie, fun fact. I love exercise. Wow. Burn that. Oh, maybe to the ground. He told me that. All right. So here we go. So let's start with a little bit from last week. Yeah. Oh, god. Over Miami my bags. My bags potentially song. My mama. On I. My. Bringing some of that west coast. Sound? DJ Rondo speaking of. Oh. That's what I that's what I wrote down for Lou. Previously coverage. I. I have that, right. You should be sleeping. We'd be I Harry. Did you? I would never tell someone that use that with. Up there. You. Jack. And you had to really get those satanic is when she finally gets drunk, I was so one of the best things about having sober friends is, you know, that there's that moment when they're not so Brady more when you're there, it is at BAC, you know, like. The return to Satan, the tamra Barney returned to say my car face. Read her faith is kind of turned into little slits, and she's like. Remember her last week making that? Oh, you know, my take sim round. And then semis and I put some lime to. Hers is delicious. He's like, he's like, hey, cage. Save me like I. Tesche unusual put up close. Okay. Porta's more ports has more. Taes toz tell you. We're going to isn't even does it is any more Ramona confuses you, you know what even is it? Taste like page. I called him Taj. C I. Ramon at him. Don't tell me what to say. I mean, Sony does way they get off your. Hi. I'm gonna know you. Sewed is going to knock you. Abic replay Sonia falling asleep, Gowda, sleep. Us dow. Gotta gotta fleet. Ghana. All right. Don't touch my night? Don't mind. At its their Sonia doing a face plants on the table onto the floor where this episode actually began her aunt. I'm so sorry for the crack. Actually, I'm sorry to the world. Everybody is on my ass crack today. It's been a lot of you. Airplane. So Sonia at one of the most epic pratfalls and the history of Riyadh heads. Madge just a fall on her face while in a seated position. Insta- lettuce and upstairs. Tens is like. Did something down there. Then they cut back and selling still. Meets only advice is take off your sheets up. Pick up pick up shoes. It's like it's like the grandma advice when something goes wrong like Mike, big Greek wedding like windex breath, these versions. The shoes. Everything's take off your shoes. Lungcancer take up. She was taking off his shoes, so that we see Ramone upstairs, and she's just like going through her suitcase. Well, what? What? Fine, my wall. What was that? Voice, it sounded like Sonia. Just filling her face onto the travertine thwarts. Oh, well. I'm back make. Wonder if I left my wallet with my best friend slash Avery. Hey did you guys read that ties? Hayes cod damn. Two two. Sorry, whatever say. T's wrong. That's what you need me. More wasted it a lifestyle. Did you guys? You know, in like five minutes, I'm going to be rented you saw that for. Jimmy money back. Demanding a refund from you. Did you guys reenter Tate's is not even a waiter there? He's a production assistant and he went on he went on something this link did. And he's like, Hello. Some of you are asking me. What is it like being on the show me how was looking to become a production assistant? And so I took this job I was like, oh my God, I feel worse for him knowing he's production like you think this is your big TV job. And it's just getting shot on by Ramona for a week. That sounds gross. I don't like talking like that here. So that's nice. I know don't treat it. Coda show that so Sonia sonya's down on the ground, but trying to get her take shoes off, and then Barbara lumbers over. She's like. Should we call the pain on out? So now we've got Bethany and Barbara Sonia. Just like a wet sat she's like a sack of noodles. Yeah. When you got them both sides doing. E R. Thank got she Barbara shape foul. Please shorts lost seven feminine. Had I saw semi nine seven. Okay. What I remember? You know what I won't say anything at all? How about that? They're checking up on Sonia, but it's like trying to find a specific ring on a cut tree. You know, like the, you know that there's a bounce from like twenty years ago that are just kinda build and they're like, cough, din, looks like. Banos. Yeah. She's. Another. They've only get Sony into our bad where, you know, like that's like our both natural steak and now she'll be like. Justice think with her hands. She always has, like an invisible remote. You know. Jeopardy's not coming on. So that's that big picture suddenly, went to in Bandon TR and. And her readers on drawn. So he has now like has now gone from belligerent to where we expect her to be all along, which is wanted to make out with Bethany. Just wanna kiss. I just I get a better just get I take tech hotel you on. Licking her. But. Her butts, so, gross and Bethany that that, you know, Barbara said call the paramedics said puck you shut up Arbor unity take off shoes. But I'm gonna call the paramedics. All right. Something better praise here. Okay. So you got another paramedics because it's like you always hear stories of someone falls in the die in the night, right? I just got an out one hundred percent he's gonna length, so they call the paramedics. Meanwhile, I fall over in Mexico where no one goes anywhere. Rude. Oh, I know. Lou Aaron is still, you know, she's just stopping around her room like a giraffe, like John this waiting for so many common, it'd be of the win with sorry. She's got like bowl on waiting for her big policies. My good blow. Any second Mexico, Paul? I've heard about your and yours. What about my admires? Your aneurysms. All I any Ryan Ryan's Amanullah is. Why is? Says sonny's like yeah. In my parade, she's turning into during that. That's the only way like that's the level of drunk that everyone is tonight. They're just all during. So then yeah, they're basically all rolling all over the dead. It's wish we could David. Lying on the floor. I don't know how you're gonna do. Yeah. Yeah. You just all just Beth I'll be Bethany pacing. All right. Okay. Okay. What about like this? All right. Okay. Okay. I'll I. Two so lay, you know, 'cause then in the middle of this, Ramona comes she's ready to go out to her. She's going out with t Slee there. They're going to be going to that hot place. That's that's there. That's what she said, last over, you can't come knowing that, please. That's cool in hot. So she anywhere. Over her biz rate, go you fall in her yourself. Well, it's nice on. You be only why why. Yes. Nothing. You do. Sonia hockey, laughing, we just besting it just go out. So Bethany is like is like here, you'd be Sonia. Just pass on my land. Just like you know, Ramana just go out. Just go out just wall. She's off your amona. She's pulling sonya's hair. I just go out. Just go out. We're gonna donate this to lots of love. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. Hey, hey, Sonia. How many think is holding up? Oh, jeez. Three tenths. I can tell because they're really skinny. They don't have eggs. Okay. Now, this is serious, who is president? Lies. Biza LIZA Clinton. Try to now who's president? That lady, you make Carol cry. Funny member. Carol really wanted that lady to lose that lady wine. One more shot so yeah, you gotta mail this one otherwise studying right to the morgue. Okay. Okay. I'll accept that. I'll accept that. Passes. That was the most. Ever had. I'm gonna get a Leotard or just like a good one. The good, solid Wednesay. So I can't with this too much like organizing chunk around buttons, and too much going. Gir- so so Ramona heads off. She's going out, she's like whatever. And to the paramedics arrived, and the paramedics do not wanna have anything to do with, like Jerry Springer paramedics. Don't wanna be seen there like in witness pretend. They knocked on some obser- twenty years ago and like I'll do something I'll just be a paramedic. And I'll say fly. Is even have faced. Dude, some board you form. It's basically Chris Samuels firm. Your house is timing. Voters, stole golden. You can't help us for behind the seat when it's only your sat out, you know. We are here to take your vitals, and to blow the whistle on corporate crime. Like area in my in my opinion, and my pinion happen if she tripped at in my opinion, she missed the table, Barbara's anything, say, Bob Rath forever like. Why? Or I'm Jim table team table. Never listens to me. I mean that's the one good thing about fillers, you know, you can just bang your damn head on the table. So I'm just fine like some years literally five she seems better after she banged her head on the table. I like I like the paramedics must've been like these bitches like you called us over because someone fell out of their might have hit their head. You're in fucking Miami. Okay. There's a guy with a machine gun down the street about their shoot a little girl until she gets his vassal. So, so they so then they start to check the vitals, and Bethany. That's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's good. That's good. Doing your work like your mar. But my theory is that it was really bad to me, like, none of the paramedics would come because they heard it was real hassle. So they just said, Bethany over and fuzzed out her face because slowed down her voice because the guy even talks like Beth me. He's like, we need to choke her bottles. We need to check her vitals, vitals, Walsum. It was. Also, it was hoping it was going on. That would also explain why they had skinny girls saline solution. Sunny. Thank. Why Morgan leathers? So then we cut to remote intensely, they're leaving their ambulance out there among like what is that? Ramani doesn't know what an ambulance. What's that? They having a party across the street. Tizzy points at the end in their driveway. I know the big point cross the street. Yeah. Like you know what one time guess what on emulates? This were this one time a little old. I went into the woods and I tripped and hurt my ankle, and I was like, swollen call the ambulance. And jolting Partha Smith said you better call the Wimpy and this day. I understand it. Okay. The. So then we get Lou am. He was just in utmost before Lou. And for the win sorry, sorry. So after after months, she's like, no, not the there's not a party. We have an ambulance in our driveway, then like that looks really scary. Oh, this Hoover. Uber. And then and then we just cut to the paramedics frigging finger and she just goes. Just be a small prick, ma'am. How much many do make? I've had plenty. Okay. So, yeah, she's screaming as they. But, but I mean true, you know, treating yeah so they liked the you guys just taking up for Sony over there. This a little. Oh, oh, she's having section which I live for. He's just he's. She's a c MVP. Or amputee that was dark that was dark. Okay. So we get Lou perturb and, you know, 'cause she does hurt her back care shake. Barbara came and told me the paramedics with there. After everything. So new said to me, I just can't go down. I just couldn't look. Barbara told me that Sonia was on her last breaths and the paramedics were there, and there were saying this is girls. So you good ball. And I said, we can say goodbye to me. I couldn't look at her. So. And my riot girls. Then they cut back to so new with the medic, and he's like, are you on any medications? Sonja just posits like. In. No. But I am allergic to dust my. Oh, well that's everything. Explains so much about Sony. Doesn't it? Good Lord, we've seen your basement. It's like the sandals dust mites. Her brains handles, her rain is just leaking out of our ears at this point. And a doctor again is like so no medications. And she's just like. Does Brown ice counters medication? I'm Beth me. I'm really this year's people's don't look like she's taking everything I can't wait to step that up the way of apps gay, because that's not something you run around saying about some of the drugs really. Hey, john. You wanna bunch online. Need? I'll see right at you. Okay. On during the hey, you want John wanna go down. Okay. About the. Yeah. Good. A love a good hypocrite, because that's when I know that I found a sister. Yeah. So, so then we go over to this bar, where Ramona's like stuck on this date with tins lay, basically. Hey, all right. Sadly, what do you want to know for me? Oh, really good drinks yet. Saying that rangelands never been here or even known what this restaurant ever was. Doing that thing when she's when she's out of the bar side. I love when g like randomly remembers that she's trying to start a lifestyle branch, this is signature drink. Okay. Sting treat, and it's like a frozen something 'cause rain, I don't know what she's talking about. Oh, I don't want to sound super and noise like too late. Julie? I'm just going to see this now sail from like. Oh boy. Oh boy to grandma bre. I was wondering what is going on? There was like a low rumble on a turn it into Arinda. You gotta. Yeah. My. Who's like the last thing? Ramona wants to hear you know. The Miami without him member. When we went on our fun, fifty Columbia, not gonna mentioned, the fact you took on that both almost kills the worship. I've never seen a house out ugly. It was way worse than the house. I found here Miami. Say Mitchell three drink promoters, Drake Ramona's like not even big attention because tens is going on about Miami and everything. Was this your place? Yeah. Avery doubt. Yeah. 'cause Tennessee's just going over every trip that they've been on and Scott center flowers. So she's like, remember that? Member that time, we were coming escalator, and sacks. Oh my God. Stupid bitch. I'll send you flowers to Christ. Send you flowers K by flowers. I mean a pile of twigs just as good. Deck on Valentine's Day. So then Ramona starts doing in the yon- young bandstand moment, you know, chooses prop comedy to illustrate a life lesson. So she's like, well, did you Walkin men in your life? Okay. Got this guy, discord this guy, this guy. Discoloring. There's all the guys. Hey, once the win booked, I. Thank you. You really care about this Goyal off what you don't realize is this going to be wants to dig me? Okay. This guy has red scarf. But this guy one time, Trump you play backgammon might join, but then this guy Sardi with that guy who you slept with that guy. Sink time. Hey, this is very intelligent. He's six foot four and started Twi accompany. Okay. So this is like, here's all these guys don't want all your excellent one basket. What kind of example is this? I'm so swearing. I've forgotten don't have any eggs, left. Whoa. Thank you come from. In the rain. Now. Who's this also little also? Okay. So. So then the next morning, does Johnny said, I don't know what I said, Johnson breadbasket, I think John's bread basket. No, John hind of case. Oh, you know that melted cheese. But he's the Mexican cheese where like, you, you try and dip your chip into it, and then like a whole clump comes off this. That's john. Yeah. I feel like Harry do you have in fun, Honey. I feel like Harry do just a bucket. You put under a leak. Harry Dubin is the leak. Here's the league and the bucket down the leak. So now is the next morning. And honestly, one of the greatest things that happened to all season this moment, we don't even see it. We just hear it just sort of see the outside the house here. Can we get some call? What the to hell nobody here to serve, what is going on here. You got thirty five man to help so bad, but not one God person to make some coffee for doubt. Ray star. Girl, so then Bethany. So you're in bed and bad things I hang out, get dramatic those dramatic dramatic. Get up. I'm gonna say who in Barbara's I. Hebrew awning. Barbara. Barbara Barbara's than nothing. Meet anybody. And I say I say kinda like Barbara, but your you can't take, you know, she is in these Cindy barshop mall, which is just like what am I doing here? And what like what did you do any bar sauce? I these ladies cranes. Really? And that was of China. Be dassler. Yeah. With the show does to you. So then Leland's doing yoga. Oh. Was my quads? I guess I'll do the corpse the not that anyone would care if I die. Died. After drinking alcohol for anyone to care about. It's time for commercial. It's time for that crap in commerce show. Very important question. Have you watched that flexes always be my? Maybe yet it's written by and stars comedian alley Wong and fresh off the boats. Randall park. They play childhood friends, Sasha Marcus, who everyone assumed wind up together, except for them after having a falling out and not speaking for fifteen years, Sasha, now celebrity chef in Los Angeles. And we love that she's a celebrity. Returns to her hometown to San Francisco to open a new restaurant rent into her old, pal. Marcus a happily complacent, musicians still living at home and working for his dad. 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And Ramona's like you have met UMass night, what she's like she's like, oh, I know because look at this, they take. Just remember going. And then she goes, well, you know, this Miami, vice houses, not really made for, for slipping Caponi on all four legs from underneath them. I right. But I fall I learned from riding horses. And then we see a flashback which I forgot about being like. Okay. Gernon scare quite now. She was so, funny because he really did like do the slits like she's based, and she was like a flying squirrel. You know, but we have never stood up so much the show before I know I'm exhausted by the. Eat a bucket of cheese got at the airport now. So intensely bids Beth resell saying traumatic my Bethany sits been saying this for ten minutes. Matej. It was for Matic like Hugh missile Waren before you even got there. That was bad. A one on one. Things to just started. She is screaming for coffee. Your dishes. Breaking. Junk broth, the coffee got it. Anyone anyone anyone I worked on that all night? Okay. So then Ramon Sonia in front of beers, which is always the best play. It's like they're always so surprised to see themselves, you know. Well. Am I looking at every right now? Each tie. My god. Look at all this working out. It's working out. It's working out for bodies. Now what town here hand the kitchen down. Here are gonna make those ex you know, the eggs and you do know the because you know that the is making excellent Francois Jeddah. Excellent, Ron face Justice awfully. Lewin's big moment, actually, like make X Francaise and how people eat them and such. Up to fail. Major fail ceremony gland duct my date. They all talk about their bathing suits and so needs. Totally fine. She's like, oh my God, I'm totally five. When everyone asking I do have a bruise, which is weird. What if? Create zorro. So they're all talking about the way she just lives in a different world. These days, just like a narcissist and even windows like people to village you have to be careful about that other side I didn't wanna be there, but just what you got back because if it's there, it's the heating, what help. The end. Help you. Hey, makes you stupid that you have to know what kind of health over the questions three s she should think sir fuck you puts into the ground. I don't feel relaxed assists. Weld. So the way and is like sitting outside waiting for someone to come out and talk with their so Ramona decides she's going to do it. So she goes out there out. God Lou and sitting just Lou answering drinking copy on a sun share. And she's like this. She's just a matching, t's just like with a big branch going like that glamorous huff. I'm gonna go up. I'm very angry. Gorgeous. Like, hey doing. Last night was pretty awful dirge agree. Well, what I thought it was pretty good. You do yoga. I thought last night was hilarious. All meet fun of you. Okay. What part of awful? Well, I think the girls getting trust and trashing me. Good for just supposed to build you up not tear. You down baby. Hey, that's a good song, boys. Three to go. Or it's supposed to you. Girlfriends or bitches? You don't come to my beret. I know I play the ball goes. Bump up. So she's like, well, I think they're jealous of my success, everybody. Oh, no. The we. I don't think that's it. Sometimes I feel like I just talk in circles, then I remember because I lived around house. I love I do personally, I finally something of and women's love that you love that. No. You really wanna read me down after falling on my face. All you do is read me, too. Win, whether you were successful or not, you would always want to review down k. We see last boxers, y'all wanna rip me down. See flashbacks people like I would never want to anyway. Taking the way just sitting there. Able. You always Faulk my call. Endure into going with me. Coming from someone who sleep jive. I mean they also realize I'm trying to stay sober way and you're getting wasted. I could be around people drink. I can't be around sloppy drunks, or you Ramona ever. You know what they do? They oughta medically go to the counters, if I do something that likes. Well, they have to hide on something. And they're non support of me, like is this a monologue? You wrote all night, you had all night to write this monologue, ma'am. Want me to do? Well they treat me the way they did last night. Did you see what happened the table you lie? She's basically, like a soap opera star which. Agreed bill. You what amp lines? I can't see you. Can't see your joint pumpkin head. This crazy feeling ravines rocks feeling rocks something. That's my face from only Catan. Sort. Just had a bone to pick with us. She's like, oh. So she goes Sonya, every time I see Sonia. She's drunk. I can't talk to someone who's drunk, you know what I'm saying is like. Just, you know, happy hours at eleven thirty AM today. She's like I can't watch Sonja spiral down into darkness. Barbara told me she villain her face. Do you know how lucky? Lucky? She is as you yourself. Label and kill herself before she could see my back show. The bongos. You know how lucky she is. She didn't hit the table and died like, see daddy. If anything died, it was the table. Sonja ramona's. Like, why don't you check on her? No didn't check on her to what you did to me. What I check on her. Ooh. Checked on me. You can't do everything. All right. Lou. Did you bring a bottle of vodka your room and trust me? One more. The euro five. We have is like peak. She is out of control if somebody said Henley, we had to do bring up bottle of vodka to your room. She'd be like. Where's the trusts? I'm gonna kill you all. I'm gonna bring Sonia. It's my AA meeting. They okay. So then the kitchen bath things like at ten. The president is Clinton. Thank you back. All right. So can I ask you what drank last night? So those things those things they gave us all. Paul. What do you call when you take a bunch of annex and blended with a bunch of Pirka said put in some rum? Yeah. Have that clear stuff. Delicious vegetables face all the time. Sandra, pay some eight delicious. VA. So now the question that's on everyone's mind. Where's barbara? Oh, god. So Bethany Betty's trying to sound reasonable. And she's like you know what? I don't think she's down with us know I think, maybe bobbers like one of the girls in my daughter's class who just feels the long lunch table. You know, maybe this isn't you know what I'm saying. Just like a petty little girl and no one likes in school that will never go anywhere in life ever shit. I forgot I left her in the locker. So back outside the well, I'm thinking of, Tony, she wants to come to name eating. You know, you have a horse to water, but maybe you can't get a drink. You know what I'm saying? Maybe so come from how did she say? It's dischord. What did Ramona's? It's discord works for prob. Remember the word from the other day, I want to say discord, that's most wanted to marry up. This court. That works for any Ramona's response. Disquiet. Okay. So then Lou and take Sony into one of the rooms and she's like Barbara said you fell. You're okay did you hit your head? I'm worried Sonia. It's not normal face mine to the table. It's a fair point. It's fair point. What are you trying to ruin the cell just cancel the show? So it is like, really you're the one who fell in the bushes. At least I because I have an issue drinking, it's people actually month ago issue issue nine seventy two. They talked about my drinking fabulous issue wore new bathing in it. Do you worry, do you realize, so, yeah, I worry about you as a friend. I'm worried that you haven't checked up on me. They get served. The why states mean the way I'm staying in front of all of our friends on manic. I've tried to just you Matic dog. All you have to do is test me, and look me in the eye and say so the way like. You're drunk alcoholics, don't use the words I can just sense. It again. Yes, I will accept that invitation to hang out with John, John and Sandra. Yes. Thank you. Look, I'm not drinking police. Get it. Hello. You're like literally, pulling someone over right now. And having them walk a line. So the winds like I'm about to go to a meeting. It's a huge gig. I'm so lucky I landed it. Want you to come? They're always asking me to sing. Hullo. Is it me looking? There was say Hello. My name is Hello. My name is I get it. So anyway. His answer is oh, meetings are great. Great. Yeah. Yeah. About that. Yeah. I don't really drive so. Don't have to go to a. Love. I mean, generally love a how. Yeah. Greek discounts. I hear. And then, so then Sony are really gives us the truth, which is listen. I don't have a drinking problem because I've looked at all the rules. I go to the doctors boxes. Read the things I check the things, what are you talking about checks beings? Let's have read the things like check check. I was like, check the boxes. It's like you're in the waiting room doing highlights magazine. No. She was really an article. It's like it's a picture. So then back in the kitchen ever was gathering back in there in Luang, still huffing around trying not to be mad Barbara's still like in the locker somewhere. Like you just hear bang. And during this. Let's just trying to with the Vittal disease spread you, you're the one screaming or at people last night. She lives in erasure or something. So I'm going to meeting. Funnest thing she's going to do. So Barbara comes back, and I was like, oh, we didn't even realize you were jogging and she's like, just got warmer in out, Barbara. He lets you out. So. I. I had to give out my tool kits to the home. Last night was tough. Ramona Ramona's the fake apology, this was one of her famous war pro swerving. Let you out the plans. I didn't mean to your feelings. I just want to hang out with people that I like, okay. But I'm glad that I wasn't able, I did not interrupt you being able to go out to a lesbian biker bar. Okay. All right. We all have strong personalities Barbara and the Bethany gets an opinions. And during the goes after all. Let's being tendencies like Barbara, you want new. You're really set want. You can hang up by the pool. Offer. I'm fine. Again. Feel a watermelon that's been scorched by Thai. That's my face. Him for Barbara. You're cordially invited to walk five feet with me. From this kitchen out here to the pool. So they may cut outside really on the hot tub doing her fancy like seating. She's like. On the hot tubs, VIP area beating greed. Get a show up soon enough during the swimsuit. When they win way out gutless you my aunt moving. Baseball man. What the hell was that shoehorn granted, I don't understand girls bathing sees but got. Oh, it's like doing anal. When you buy a bathing suit with having you do in their cries. Line stick liner liner. Gusting. So. I guess, supposed to protect you from other people's Jay. Right. Or. Quotes arinda. Oh boy, what a picture. So, so we learned that there's gonna be like a party at the house, and Ramona's organize Bonaparte. Okay. Red scoff optional. So she's only like only thirty people are allowed to come. I goes where rigorous vetting process. All Ramona, basically, being like an invitation Nazi, but more importantly, she's also found pool doodles. So now she's the pool. During this watching her as she goes by, though, they ticket picture goes, all right? Ramona's into noodle like watching a cargo ship go by. She's like she could picks benching. Begi. Nice. Remolding timely noodles. Get your fucking noodle. Nick, I take shoes off what the hell promoted is now with her own Brandon will noodles. Oh, there's one right there. News waving in the wind terms like my new news. Waving. I mean here I am at heart Noah gave me a new. So Ramona's just like paddling behind her. Like, what is this beautiful on, I'm twenty years all the pool and during the goes. Cargoes should go and buy Ramona flooding by. So now do and goes off and the ninety minutes later, she's back and Ramona's still entered a noodle and everything, and she's talking to the girls when Llewellyn's bag Ramona saying, wait, I have to say the coast, back like this. How are you? He's terrified. He's like. Good. Okay anything. Okay. Just just a down to earth cabaret star. I know it's like she pauses waiting for mass for an autograph, and he's like. All right. I'm leaving. See much friendlier once I've had my coffee once I've had my coffee. As. What's gotta do hope you got some good sleep tears because the coffee wasn't made days. Worth it. So, so the way it goes outside. And Ramona's out there would be like coming. Very. Just coming also my boyfriend, maybe. Comey. He's really cute. So I took him to the front seat. The plan is that so someone asks remote area Rio. Somebody has Ramon if she married, whatever get back together and then goes up, it's hard to put your old slippers back on honestly cuts cuts, like Sonia wearing like six different slippers together. For me. That's ten flow over. I'm so yeah. It's he brings someone's that. No. Anyone can have guys hear me. All right. So she's gonna make jealous by bringing over ex-husband to apart fucking Ramona. Like does that dumbest plan up ever heard of? I mean you can't put on old slippers date nuance to. Right. I'm gonna make the slipper thing land. You know what I'm saying? In the lands. Like, all right. Guess what? There's more to drinking. Let's go, visit my old coquette friends who have art galleries. Does that three ago to get away from drug abuse and art gallery in Miami. So they had to win would walls, which has no relationship to Steve winwood and Tinsley tens tells us, by the way that her sister, dab me is going to be at the party Daphne tax. Wait. What? Dab dab. It. Goofy. Melanie Sarah deal Pauline, Colleen, holiyay only all will lean thing. Yeah. Dad me. Ceremony. It's like. By the way another key difference between this show and Beverly Hills. Beverly hills. A year a year of that dish. Oh, my sister Tammy what shut the fuck up. That's over. You shock me through the. I will not show up to you. What does why men by the way, how dare Vander palm team LV? I should have been there to reunion. Should've been there. But I was sending breaking gay pride. No, you weren't skipping a housewives reunion was reunions. Archaic ri-. Yes. Those things are geared like a penis in a buds. By the way, because gay pride did you guys see the Andy Cohen called us hilarious? Translated to please stop tweeting me all ready. Take. Okay. So, so they're all going to these. Oh, just kidding. So we're all going all the women are going to art galleries. And as soon as they get there. Well. Swear not be going to doubt. Yeah. I'm not going there. My friend is having a drink at a Denny's. Go there. Instead. Like leaving right now I need chill pay tape. Forty who. Who Mary Comey point? I'm buying the government plying. Again. That definitely I feel. I feel pencils. A sack of flour. And a straw. Clammy. I can see him. I can see so she goes up. So the rest of the game, I'm like laughing, because I forgot actually all all of his stuff, and that's really my notes. I'm like, oh my God. I'm a dozen it feel like we're over that was fun. What a fun. So that was just the first twenty minutes show. I was like five minutes. So now they go they go to this art gallery. That's run by a guy named Peter Tunney. And so it's friends. So all my God. This guy has my anti Lulu migrate anti lose volka. Second grey poll cut, and he's kinda cross eyed like losing logo. Oh. Oh, I love what you've done with the place. Chandelier. Does. I'm gonna swing from this handle you. From the chandelier. Thank you. Thank you. Everyone. So they're all the RO gray hair bobblehead. I wrote. So there's this. Like, there's like a stop sign thing that's green. And it says, don't stop ever and Bethany sees. I'm I got. I'm I got manic, right. But stop sign. Right. A my out. I'm like literally. It's like how much you want for the I gotta have gotta have that daughter like my got used enough. Right now. I just need to get rid stop Sunday. Screens and says go right? Like the nutcracker of up signs. I love it. Gotta have you gotta have it good fifty million dollars garments? Peter, this guy the artist. Peter, he's like a right now it's time for gifts Tinsley. Here's the Tim can. That's like a pay. Andy Warhol Tate can with sorry, Eddie world did not that there's a reason this guy's giving away said. Okay. And it's not because he likes them like. Here's the thing we. It's literally got like Hewlett Packard paper tape to it with like Campbell Soup. We have to give a shout out about this is great. I don't know if you've heard this story or not, but last night at our know, walkie show, someone came a Campbell sued can hearse and security was apparently, like, what are you doing? And just like it's my purse what and she opened up all our stuff, and they're like, okay, and she got in so wherever you are I respect your costume will if that's terrorism, no Mia. I'll take it anywhere. Just a beautiful world terrorists. Who like litter bombs art. So, so this guy starts giving art everyone. He's like, all right. And basically, like Oprah art. You get some you get some are. Okay. It's my turn yet tro, miser coming up next is I had the star. It'll be last in the queue. Oh, no. Not yet all areas watching them get her gifts or there. If she's. I'm so happy for you. You. And the next be. Oh, teas gets one also. That's so good. He doesn't know how to make AUSSIE but he gets hurt. All these people who didn't hang out with Peter in the grow are back in the day, getting gifts. I'm so happy. Hoppy ride. Oh well you forgot me heater and he's like I didn't his like. Princess, diana. What about? Oh, made it just. Now that you say it does feel rather regal. But Bethany also got totally fucked over 'cause she paid five million dollars for something about. Out. For this fucking Spencer's gifts. Stop sign trick. Well, that's okay. Though, that doesn't need a gift because, as she says, you know, I have a daughter that's my present. Typically doesn't. Literally said that, that was horrible. She said, I'm glad because it's so nice to see she hasn't really changed. Able on TV Chaves and you have to be nice to them, especially he's had a really good season. Even I'm like, oh my God. Beth great. I've never did like about the me. See is great what a classic and now, you're like host, welcome home. Come home. By the way, I'm still wearing your lady Di cap 'cause I working on my posture. Looks good on EBay. It makes me does it make like skinnier totally sitting. Guy your fat now. You're. Oh I dropped my arm. So now they're going over to remember dole. I don't even know what this is. Oh, this is like the Bob, what's the guy on on PBS? Bob Ross Bob Ross is like I made he's got like the big curly hair lot of artists this season and bad things I guess it's my artist. Hi, bob. Ron. Yeah. Bob joint Levin happy and you you do. And I didn't write down with the art was. But I hope it was just like some brittle, like skeleton with all our hair. Do you have to rent is being so busy? I love it. It was someone who the broken megaphone doing. Oak tree yelling. I'm gonna do you all? So, so this guy he gives everyone or they all get take a little thing that's worth eight thousand dollars. Okay. So now they're all laughing because I want got the swarovski who bought these remote Bethany. She bought the mouse, Roszke, crystal heart sings. Bob ross. Yeah. It ended up costing like nineteen trillion dollars. You know, everybody remember, I'm the richest one. Good feel that taught warming. Hello, my name's Ryan size. So now they're all like, you know, as as, as all the winds being they're all really bonded, in this moment 'cause they held. No Ramona's not gonna get any art and they're gonna torch her back to me. Refuses during their like he? Just sit down. Speaking do is take France can now we're not getting her anything pucker. She chose other people over. Do you want to look around a pool? Five men. Yes. Let your flus you'll lose. All right. You see. And then you're like I love her a guy. Like she could stab someone of their dry eggs, and then the next minute, you're like hugging her. Nightime and everyone's getting dressed for the big mixer with all the mad ever is telling us about like that. She's invited over Kevin k- six four. He's really nice looking. He's not too loud, which is nice. I like we get in classy. Okay. Swat married before here's what it's got to be. Watching her just walking through the kitchen, like she actually did some things. Well. Well. Okay. Got the water bottle. They're gray. Okay. You've got the glass of something raid, cut the mic off. Mike the biggest ever thrown like we just worked for two days for this party. You went to the hotel bar this afternoon. So. So Mario enters, and they have is like awkward like you know, she has that thing, which starts ticking. He's like, hey Ramone, we're gonna fuck later tonight, right? So she's like, why can't help it reaon? We've had chemistry always will and we get a flashback where like a deli counter, and we'll see someone massage and a ham. Wait. I'm sorry. It was. It was Ramon in. Mario. This scene. You guys would I lie. This is the last thing. I'm gonna see. Like if I'm gonna call Mars something, I'm gonna see this. I'm gonna literally wake up only my throat this scene Trump's knock to wake up to see if I'm okay. Okay, you be Mario sitting in the chair case. She makes Mario take off his shirt. Okay. Take off your shirt on on. Magic mike. Magic prices, right? Yeah. That's, that's that. We have never disturbing audience this much. Doing like role player voted Mario. The great Mario kit poking scene of twenty twelve or whenever the hell that I also liked you misses she likes starts massaging his stomach. And she's like, oh, I love these PECS. Hey, hey, hey, hey. One time. I really feel like we overbid on the prices right right now. This. What city home rise on prices, right ever? Do you. Climaxing. Gradulate. Do you think that Tinsley cries when she watches lingo? Now was to be on name tensely. Kick off. Plink plink. Oh, Mortimer your father taught me out of it. But don't worry. I want I'm alone with top. We still call you blink behind your back. The joke we have with his son, which he has. People really like not down, not down. See he's the main one. It's a secret that no one really go stale, by the way, I love Dale and they all should be on every episode. They also recovered way to recover them. Benz. I guess what you just made me I love cookies. I love the Hennepin bridge. Is that that's a bridge right now? But there's also the bridge isn't there? Already mentioned this on Oxford. I had to diversified done with your sight, seeing okay? So. Ever seen this recap. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what time it is. But my watch is going. Turtle time. So someone who's not having journal time at least so far is Sonia, who's just counting the gloves though, it which me so sad. It's not right. What are so neat doing drinking club soda? She is not, by the way. She's not, she says she's drinking light, but then she has the glass this big. It's like a baby. Head her glass like this big. So, so then Ramona's trying to flirt with her. Mario and she's like whoa. My my slip is caught. My. Let me put out. Oh, look, there's a piece of plastic. It might be also. So to Scottsdale. And he's like, who flirts like that during during? Have you ever seen removing flirt? Literally have a bud hole. Female. And it was funny. What? Would you like a finger order? Ramona? No grows. Trinity is she kept thinking? Futon. So then Ramona meets some. From out. It's another name time for Ramona. See, meet somebody named Denno. She's like then Neo. Danial yoga Ennio, Don. Daphne the Neo. Danieli person. So call happening. Deniro. So that so Ramona's all bashful because he's trying to be coy about the fact that Mario is there. And the day coming up tomorrow. Hey, Ramona's have to take coming tonight. Mareo. She's been so I've been having such a great time at their, you know. I mean she let the guys for accident all she guys. Mario. It's crazy. You're looking snappy. Love your skinny jeans. I ramona. Yeah, I mentioned this, but Ramona has the day. But she told him you were here. Isn't that funny? That's your splash vodka talking. I'm sure I Ramona gets like fake embarrassed, so she her boys gets really high. She's like Sonia. Can't leave. Meal, sonia. How could you? You know what it feels good that he'd looks jealous? So then Dabney arrives and death. The Dow Dabney Coleman arrive to very important party. Like finally to get his revenge on lily Tomlin. Yeah. Daphne rise. Which do you like I thought that Dale was just watching nine to five dab Nicole Kidman so far? I've got link. Oh, I think it's time for a death. Walking onto that's something teams. He doesn't know about. No one does. I'm so jealous of this family, because I feel like most people on Bravo, just faking it like I'm rich. But then you find out there Doreen basically, by the way, no fan street, by the way, I'm not saying I'm not saying this to, like, good graces, and people, but, like I actually really enjoying a lot this season. I think she finally found her like. She's like a little run to the cast and they just like should on her. I actually find to be really endearing. What's the point of walk watching rocky? If you don't have somebody to punch. Yeah. So like. So definitely comes in Dabney's with Kinsley rose, like sisters. You have lashes in common. You guys have seen last see the same lashes. Yeah, that's it. Well, I can't tell you to what the said. Lashes mario's. Yeah. You both have the same lashes, I guess he's like. He's like. She's one with it, maybe ten. Selene K. So then Bethany is coming down with her friend, Sarah and Sarah's like oh, yeah. I didn't tell you, Ramona was telling me that she and Sonia went to pussy Tano. She tana. All mike. What Beth Bethany getting along with Ramona so much more fun Antill that one episode where? Walk out. So. Mentioned. So an-and Lou ended this guy in the oh, Dan, Danny ah. Whatever his name is, they're all flirting off by the side. So during on you're just watching, and then a plate of sushi comes by. And. I guess they're offered ill huggy, and that, don't need you. You like he'll you like you just like. She's doing that. Cartoon thing with the fish goes, eight, and the bones come out. Wow. That's a lot of he'll. Into the pro right seven she, let's hang your back aboard. Yeah. So then the way I was talking to her friends, and the guys like, hey, baby, you wanna cocktail? Yes, I do also with a diet coke. Love that. You know, cocktail starting slow starting so and the guy goes. Oh, yeah. Forgot about that. Oh, yeah. What you've been doing baby. You know, me being busy getting married divorce. Trial into prison. Because you can just see on her face at this guy has a bad fuller coke. You can just see. Oh boy, let's go behind the pool. Oh, you can always count on Oltenia. Oh, yeah. So then Mario still getting excited to meet the guys. Nya swallows the cats hole. Then Barbara guy bar. Harbor Barbara Barbara I wanna say shows up, but she's been there all the time. So Barbara is Barbara brings like every LAN. This is my friend ory Ramona goes. Oh. Daughters. So let me just get the street. Lovers your friends. Why is brand wait a minute. But don't you have China this barber? Try Horford time on China Barbara ever tried to cut up. John physics here. That's what let's be honest. Warri if you need help you link twice like this. I'll take you somewhere safe, and she's like Barbara on, and she's married. And Ramona and Sunday. Oh, so you're fluid just not with this one. I get it. I get it. You know, we all have to have standards. I loved at this is supposedly the most gay friendly cast, and they're the most like slightly homophobic, Alec. They don't get it. You know, I don't wanna say held up though bad about the most ignorant. Let's say that. And then I really don't mind it like I'm totally fine with that. 'cause I wanna know what the buck Barbara's doing too. Because like I'm a gay guy, and if I'm talking to a guy, of course, we thought about what each other's Dixon. Look like what we do. I don't know if the gay thing or a guy thing, but, you know, I think questions. Right. Talk much yourself. Listen. It's no just respect Barbara. I mean. Just curiosity. Okay. Curiosity killed the pussy. Sorry, barbara. Over. Not anti. That's being we just think gumdrops. Okay. So ceremonies like Sonia want you to meet my friend, Kevin. And Betsy yet back. I still wanna know where the fuck Kevin is that's me driver. Yeah. Oh, up in Miami. Sorry. Look, I brought it down. Sorry, guys. I'm not the only one getting booze. I know that's usually me. I've loved it. I know so so Bethany and Mario are. But anyway, we're just talking. And have you. What are you doing? How are you? What do you do? Do you do? What are you doing? Why are you talking? Like what are your nervous seriously? Whether you never still ahead dot dot dot. What's happening? Do you mean favorite take off your shoes? Yeah. Up around. I love her mind. Marijke satis middle aged single Manser ever. He's like I'm doing great taken up golf, paddle ball, wiffle ball polo rugby coloring to, they have a dull cowering bucks, now that's been fun tried knitting. If you know the difference between it again, crocheting fingers. It's been a great life Batman, really happy. Okay. Meanwhile, Tinsley and. And I, I wrote her name is Daphne hires Bucky, Ramona, I'm still hauling Tosh so they're, they're like, hanging out like. It's just hard because this place became white sky. The Carole, Radziwill. That I haven't been on the season. I've just been running. Oh, time. I just finished. So dab maintains Lee, or spying on Rona flirting, which is Larry because this guy that she's with is like serious, and really doesn't want to be on TV like a party on television. Is your behind? Okay. You eat touching. It this thing in Saudi. Do you want to go to Dr? No. So she's ever flirting. And it's hilarious and Kevin's like is your ex actually here? Which one is he? I don't wanna be offensive and on, like he's the gentleman yellow shirt, you know, spend four years. He hadn't been by dry SIS. You may have chest is particularly Ueli. So temples about to cry about Scott. Damage Daffy death avenue. No, I won't that be calming. So don't don't goalie. He didn't make a happy burden. If you don't respect, she's, like a weird mix between tensely voice, and like something from Ghostbusters. I'm not really. Sure, what's going on with her so yeah. So. Oh on time, I've already the point is guy respect yourself. You can't do it. I'll learn if that stays on so over there. The. You'd better shut your land over there. God damn. Yeah. So. So then there's then there's like this one guy, one Hawkeye likes it's on the couch. And like all the women around him and Lou Angela walks over and it's like that's a hot guy looms like. Out of my way. How's it going? Like high just turned twenty two grabby ever been with Cattalo. Cami. Cami is, again, aim is something something who cares? Kennedy. Sonja goes. Oh my God. I've been working on massage for an hour and she cabin raided and the wind just goes. And you're still sitting all the way over there. Hi, kennedy. So then Bethany goes over detention damage has come down to guy few. He's cute. He's actually real. All right. Yeah. That's fake with a coupon site actually. All right. He's like he's like he's like hot like this. Do you ever see like a green stop sign with say? Stop test go. Yeah. It's like you know while on the street long run over, you can find a gun. They go downstairs, like, oh. She goes over to the guys. All right. Got some crazy bitch. Here. Spry been crying for a while. I don't know what her sister's got some fucked up the talk to her sister. All right. Ranga bump it like in the front. Like you're crazy. Don't. I talked to work for two minutes. I wanna plastic eyelashes in my eyes three hours to get it out. Don't talk to her. So this guy who was very very like normal looking. So one of my dad's friends. Yeah. Like have you talked to him? Is that like radio? So is it harder than Bankin? So then so then like, oh, she doesn't know what to do. She's like set up out of nowhere and Bethany is just stands up here. She goes. Gets into the paint. Other you can do it hang hang he's into. He's god. God that dry air. It was into it. You'll go hang out hung out to hang out, talk and all walks today. Be rolling. Over here. You talk the talk. Okay. Stop stop. So like trying but it so awkward. You know. So she's like, Donna should have more game than this and deputies like last. That means a monster in my mind. Sorry. Like that. But now I've made her that in my mind and she's just like sitting there. Leaving yourself. Pay their title, they can be. If you leave. So then this is where they sell Ramona. Okay, so Tim's. Like. Like. They were supposed to go over there. What do you do? Editor's cut in Ramona going. I mean it's pretty simple to just line up three signature drinks, some tequila in a two old shit in a medium glass and the smoke last three once. Okay, you Dany that was some beautiful beautiful editing. Ramona's effluent. Effluent cake. We're all down this feeling useful three on trae. So I some kind of bass over there, I'm not sure whatever done it all day. So the girls are going to start fucking with her and Bethany. He's like Ramona enjoys pretending that she like owns this fucking house. And she made this whole parties fucking stupid. So let's proper. They start doing the women's doing this joint toes. I wanna go ahead. I wanna thank everyone. I'm gonna tell me this, what up. Okay. I wanna think know we have. We went. Get on. Yeah. We all on, we meet houses. Art than you could ever see in your life. This, this artist worked with the poop what this. The pope came to Miami gave us. I both ever was nice to gay people before what's nice gay people. I wanted that. Did you get a pope paint? Can we did actually we did you say? It was nice. So Ramona is losing your much on supplies. They didn't bring me peace of back. I mean when I went to the clam bake, I brought lots of backwards. Arinda. You know, lobsters ten thousand dollar piece of art that we're all happy. Because, you know, by the time those lobsters gotten how remoted Lichter eating a piece of each one of them. So then Ramona intros Mario, Kevin sick, Maury Marian, look this, my friend steep ups. Glasshouse steve. He invented. Go ahead. Make jealous will get this outta my bowl. These guys are there other like you want her now you wanna. Not really. So it is like two minutes front row just slap. High five. Oh my God. Look, there's emptiness right here. Yeah. So, basically Kennedy talking at so comes up, and she's like let me just throw the cold weather on this. Hey, Ramona slept with Harry do. Made out Marias like hairy still around. Guys, not fucking. Time I saw Harry one of his is actually fell out. Head to help him put it back in the live fuckin-, Jesus Christ. Ramona? Than rent does like various need Marian soon. You have about that. How about that? Let's credit this less credit bone mission here. Hang Nario, new you. Then we Chris Pelling and. Maria's like fuck. No, Scott disgusting. Dare you like going back to this, and then we see scenes from next week, which is basically Beth and be like shut the fuck. Jones. Just. That brings us to the. What raid audience you guys are awesome. Thank you so much. For the main thing. One.
Dr. Guptas Special Message to the Class of 2020
"Corona virus versus fiction is sponsored by express. Vpn A lot of people are doing what they can celebrate the high school and College Class of two thousand twenty from their homes from actors to athletes to Oprah never has a graduating class been cold to step into the future with more purpose vision passion and Energy and hope. I've been thinking a lot about this myself. I look at my three children and I think a lot about the world that they're growing up in so I decided I would share some of my own thoughts and maybe even a little advice about going into the world in these troubled times. Truth is most people will never remember. Their graduations let alone their commencement speakers. It is yet another formality in a day. And a time of life when such formalities are certainly important but mostly symbolic. I don't remember much about my own graduation except that I was wearing a robe and it was lunchtime. I remember that moment when I realized that a page had been turned in my life that over the last several years my head learn something. I was more informed. I was better at solving problems and could more easily navigate my way through life. I hoped I had better judgment and could add some real value to the world. Truth is I didn't know what I was doing and I didn't know where life would lead me. I just followed a few basic rules. Listen more than talk after all. I already knew whatever it was I was going to say so better to hear the other guy out. It was a valuable skill because it allowed me to be a true lifelong learner. Another rule never hold a grudge there just toxic and serve no real purpose in our short time here on earth and for that matter regrets jealousy revenge would all be put in the same category so many times. I have been thank for my advice when all I basically did was listen and then tell the person just let it go. Finally be kind. I learned early on when you practice kindness. It feels good somehow internally like something clicks into place that I am fulfilling prophecy. It is a sort of reciprocal altruism. Doing good feels good. I don't think that's an accident. My guess is that reciprocal altruism was a trait preserved in selected for in the Human Race. It allowed our species of human beings to survive and thrive much more than rugged individualism or. Survival of the fittest. I think the point is this. We human beings are somehow programmed at a deep molecular level to take care of each other and it is more important now than ever this is a consequential time and yours is a consequential commencement you are being unleashed and unbridled into the world. At a time when it matters more than I can remember in my fifty years of life. My childhood was fairly serene compared to yours it was post Vietnam. The economy was relatively stable and terrorism was mostly depicted in the movies. If you were born at the beginning of this century at the beginning of this millennium however you were just a year old when the United States suffered the worst terrorist attack on its home soil by your third birthday. The country would become immersed in two of the longest wars in. Its history. By eighth birthday you would have watched your parents struggle through the great recession in middle school and High School. The existential threat of climate change made it feel to you like the trees would no longer be so green that the birds would no longer sing so sweetly and that the world is. We knew it might come to an end far sooner than our imagination had previously allowed. And now you are dealing with the biggest health threat of the last hundred years. We could not have imagined when we rang in the New Year. Two Thousand Twenty sitting closely arm-in-arm even sharing a kiss as the clock struck midnight that within a few weeks our lives would completely change. And yet that is what happened at once the tragedy the irony and the beauty of life and we miss the ebbs and flows of life the mountains and valleys the rise in the fall of our years on the planet toll to primarily stay at home life somehow feels a little flatter a little grayer a little less technicolor. Yes an infection has taken hold of our planet and life will have to change for a while we will have to stay home. Reflect more and go deeper within ourselves. There is no vaccine yet. There is no magic therapeutic. There is just each other and never before. Have we been so dependent on one another? And we must rise to that challenge. You newly minted graduates must set the example lead the way and show us a better tomorrow. Class Two thousand twenty. This time is your time. I know that Masan crazy but we will get through this. I know that and we may likely be better and stronger and more capable of dealing with this in the future and we'll probably learn a lot about ourselves along the way never. Does the human race achieved so much as when our backs are up against. The Wall finally graduates as a father. Myself I WANNA remind you to start that practice of kindness that practice of gratitude today while it is your commencement it may also represent the ending of another era of the dependence on your family. Your parents the people who supported you along the way. Remember to say thank you today. Look the person in the eye when you do and feel it deeply in your heart. Congratulations class of two thousand. Twenty and thank you for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday. Virus fact versus fiction is a production of CNN audio. Meghan Marcus is the executive producer. Felicia Patinkin is the senior producer along with Amanda Sealy and Nadia Kooning from CNN. 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"These are the sounds of protest. For, the past ten days, people across the country have been demanding justice for the police killing of George Floyd. And all of this in the midst of pandemic, hundreds of thousands of people shoulder to shoulder marching through the streets to find a different, but no less serious public health ish. The intersection between brace and health has been Dr Camara Jones Jones's life's work. She's an epidemiologist, then also past president of the American Public Health Association. So I turned to her to learn more about how these two are connected. I will tell you now. She is hopeful that this system can be fixed. I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta CNN's chief medical correspondent. And this is corona virus, fact versus fiction. The new cycle is fast and you know we. Have everything feels like it has to be in these sound bites, but I just WanNa just WanNa dialogue with you a little bit, too maybe maybe to start off by asking you. Just how you doing. Mentally emotionally right well I'm I have a slow seething rage. And I'm wondering what. In my toolbox tools that are in my personal toolbox, I should be taking out. To us in this moment I'm using some of them, but I think I. Need to use maybe one or two more. We're really at a huge vote, and so everybody recognizes okay. This is the time for me to bring my. Into this and hopefully push us in the right direction. This is your life's work and we're GONNA talk about this inflection point between the the pandemic and and the protests just from from a health standpoint but just. Now does now feel different to you, I mean you look over the last just look over the last few years, but then you can go back sixty years, you know. Does it feel different this time Dr. Right it does. This is my life's work. My Life's work has been on naming measuring in addressing the impacts of racism on the health and wellbeing of the nation and well first of all. Let me say what racism is. Racism is a system of structuring opportunity. At of assigning value. Based on the social interpretation of how one looks which what we call raise. That unfairly disadvantages some individuals and communities. But every unfair disadvantage has its reciprocal unfair advantage, so it also unfairly advantages, other individuals and communities. The national awakening to racism I with. The unexpected disproportionate impact of covid nineteen I I'm black Americans in black and Brown Americans black around native Americans, and now you're talking about Pacific Islanders, in California but the that Kobe nineteen structural racism. So that was. Not the first time that that's happened in the nation happened with hurricane. Katrina happened with the poisonous flint water supply. And now with the murder. The cold. UNFEELING with people around you, condoning it murder of Dr Flight which is on tape that has awakened another whole group of people about racism. This awakening I know is not a permanent awakening unless we make it saw. Right. Now you do have people who are protesting. For All the reasons that we're talking about, and we are in the middle of a pandemic, which means a contagious virus is. circumnavigating the globe. But one thing. We've been told this trying. Keep your distance. Try and reduce the spread, and so you have both of these things happening at the same time. There's no one better maybe in the world to ask the new about this. What do you tell people? So I think that we have to protest, and if you are lucky enough to have an in ninety five mask. That can also protect you, or if you have a two layer mask or masks that has aligning in the you can cut some coffee filters something that in between the lighting in the other part of the mass that can protect you as well as protecting other people. Maybe you can. Get a face shield but I think that. That we have to. Signal for all to see that that are not okay right now. Games are very much, not okay. and. Then it's about risk reduction if you can stay six feet from other people. That's fine. If you're going to be chanting, shouting the you may need to make sure you have your mass on to protect others and hopefully be surrounded by other people who are also wearing the masks. Outside is better than inside. With the sun shining is a little bit better. Outside is better than inside because of the wind, not dispersing stuff and I pray that people. That a lot of people won't get sick, but if they. Do. It's not for Frivolous Tin. It's almost like walking into a war with the best armor that you can. Put on recognizing that you are in a war and that you are taking on the risk. Of being in this war. But it's better than letting. The opposing forces silence you and smother you and kill you one by one. We cannot be afraid to use that community action to push. Into a more just society. We have the possibility right now. It's a war worth fighting. It is. It is. I? Think about these to. Public Health issues happening at the same time because they're both public health issues as as various medical organizations have said. Racism. Police brutality, and then obviously this coronavirus pandemic, but racism in and of itself. You've said many of Said is a public health issue in and of itself. Is it fixable? Is this a fixable problem? Yes? It's fixable. It's going to take. It's going to take. Intent is not fixable in a casual way. It's fixable by involving the people who are adversely impacted in decision making. By tapping into their knowledge and wisdom and lift, experience and valuing. Their input. But whenever I am. Trying to identify lovers for intervention. I take that question with me, so we could say. How is racism operating here? My Child School, or in my job at the CDC or CNN, or in the United States or in my city or anywhere right, and you look at the who what when and where of decision making these are the structures, so who who who sits around and decides even. What the stories are GonNa be coming tomorrow, or you know every time. I speak to a different audience if I spent ten minutes. Sifting their issue through that. How is racism operating here? Elements of decision making I can identify for them five to ten. Different targets for their intervention. The tricky thing is if everybody focused on just one target. Then racism is such a fancy in deepen multi armed octopus of a system. A Medusa thing right that. That if we all focused on one of the snakes or one of the arms I think it would just roll back. Something else so what it is going to take for us is an intent for all of us to take some aspect of racism in as a collector, not one person we need to understand that collective action is power, and with all of us working together I believe that we can dismantle this system and put in his place a system in which all people can know in develop their foe potentials. Doc that is that is. Inspiring I mean I honestly when I. You know I was going to sit down with you. I did not know where your head was going to be at on this if you had been very despondent and Pessimistic I would not have been surprised. Given the status of the world, but I'm looking at you. The listeners can't see you right now, but you're. You're smiling and you're and you're determined. I Determined yes, determinant and determine. How else can we be? How else can we be? If we. If we sit back. We will have let this opportunity. Horrid Convergence of pain and disease and pestilence and murder, and disregarding dehumanisation devaluation that has. Tied itself up into his, not that we are faced with right now, maybe a ball rolling down the mountain on us, but we have enough people. To not push it. Back up some mountain, but to push it aside. and. Create space for something else. When you when you think about. The next couple of months. Because you know sometimes as you know better than most you, you do have these. Moments and there's there's a lot of adrenaline and and and momentum, and then I know just from a new cycle standpoint. Things shift all of a sudden shift again. And here's what I worry about besides the shift is that people have given so much of themselves. Mentally physically male, even having put themselves at risk of the virus being out there. Do. You worry that it'll manifest in in mental health. You, know sort of toll or or people get sick. They start to feel sick. They go home. They get somebody else sick within their within their household or whatever. At how do you? How would you talk to somebody? At that point? It's a balanced life is a balanced life is risk reward? I would say that when you watch geese flying. North Flying South you see them flying in a formation. Flying that be formation, because the Gustaf his breaking the wind for the ones behind who are breaking the win for the ones behind him once behind. And, I used to worry about that lead goose like what happens when that lead goose gets tired. They just fall to the ground. They fly off someplace random, but no, they don't they fly. Back into the flock, and another takes the lead. And, that is how geese fly far. Right, so what we need to do is we need to either find create our flock. We need to decide. In which direction are we travelling and we need to take turns in terms of leadership. So even if you feel tired, hang with the flock. They will break the wind for you for a while, but don't fall off somewhere. Don't let the flight get. Smaller. Or Sad! Or just find that they need you there even in the back and then. It'll be your turn to take the lead again. And if we can share that leadership, and but we can stay together a community, and if we can agree on the direction. We're going I. think that we can get someplace I really do I really. Do I'm not just sort of thinking it I really do. Dr Camara Jones. I will treasure these conversations. Thank you. I learned something each time and I. Don't say that lightly. I really mean it. So thank you. Dr Jones says we are facing systemic racial problems, not just in society, but in public health as well. Yes! It's an uphill battle, but it's one worth fighting. If you are weighing the health risks of taking to the streets during a pandemic do remember to wear your mask and wash your hands frequently. Avoid vulnerable friends and family afterward. Be Safe. If you have questions you can record them as a voice memos and e mail them to ask Sanjay CNN CNN.com. We might include them in our next podcast. We'll be back Monday. Thanks for listening Corona virus fact versus fiction is production of CNN audio. Meghan Marcus is the executive producer. Felicia Patinkin is the senior producer along with Amanda. Sealy and Nadia Gang from CNN health. Raj Mukija is the senior manager of production operations. This week's episodes were produced by an Lega Mayo Evan Chung Zach Saint Louis and Zoe Saunders. With additional help from Michael Middlemen. Are Associate. Producers are emily, Lou, Aaron Mathewson Madeline Thompson and Rachel Cohn. Nathan! Miller is our engineer and David Toledo is the teams production assistant? Special thanks to the executive producer of CNN Health Ben Tinker. As well as Ashley Lusk Courtney Coupe and Daniel Cantor from CNN audio.
Avoiding a Bummer Summer
"I'm not really sure about what I am going to be doing this summer. My husband and I both work fulltime so having our kids at Camp would certainly be a big help I was going to get to daycare and like it would be my last year so I'd miss that I'm really sad that I have to be suck mouse but I'm with my family. When I think summer I think of kids laughter splashing in the pool backyard. Cookouts kids at Camp but that may not be exactly how summer looks this year across the country cancer. Getting canceled and families are scrapping. Their vacation plans. Kids are logging virtual school only to find out summer. Jobs have vanished but over and over again. Experts have told me not to panic camp a little bored and is healthy. Plus there are plenty of easy creative alternatives to choose from this summer. I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. Initially I was telling everyone you know this is. This is not going to be forever. That's Dr Tanya Altman appea- attrition in California. She's been helping. Families managed the ups and downs of this new pandemic reality. I still am hopeful that this is going to be sort of a one year change and then things will get a little bit more back to normal but I think kids are never going to go to a restaurant the same buffet same or play with their friends. The same sounds like the conversations happening in. Your home are very similar to ours. Know one of the things that came up with my fourteen year old was around summer camps and people talk a lot about summer camp. Says this you know this thing that kids will often do instead of going to school but for her the last couple of years it was. It was a lot more than that. I mean I could tell. When she came back from these camps it was a it was a tremendous growth experience so it is a huge loss for her. This is a hard question. But how do you help kids navigate that disappointment so it has been really hard for so many and I think the best thing to do is sort of knowledge that you understand disappointment and what they're going through and that it is this huge huge bummer? And let them talk about their feelings. I think our kids are going to be so much more resilient after this. I'm even though they're disappointed. But if if as parents we can kind of reframe the conversation and those can be memories that they kind of look back on when this is all over I have three girls and Dr Altman has three boys fourteen. Twelve and five. She recommends having a family meeting to discuss ideas for summer activities. And you can start by asking what they would do if they could do anything or at least almost anything. If you have a pool or you have a relative or neighbor with a pool that you feel safe that maybe your family could borrow one day when they're not using it. If your kids want to camp you can Amazon tent and camp in your backyard or your front yard. You could also think about our projects and creative things to do. Since I have a five year old he's been painting jewelry boxes and making t shirts but altman also says parents shouldn't beat themselves up about relaxing rules for screen time. This is a big one. Parents are gonNA need brakes to and when screen time is over. She says letting kids be board is actually an important part of their development. You know I see a lot of kids with mental health issues in my practice and part of my protocols for them especially my patients with Adhd have always been to sit on the grass for thirty minutes a day and do nothing. That's actually so healthy important for their brain and their body to just do nothing and relax. While many summer camps and activities are shutting down others are adapting and offering alternatives the YMCA in youngstown. Ohio is holding in person activities for less than half the usual number of campers staff will be taking kids temperatures every day at drop off and anyone with a temperature of one hundred degrees will be sent home parents. Who Don't feel comfortable with that can sign up for virtual camp which includes a box of supplies and the week schedule of online activities. Nikki Murray is the youngstown. Ymca's camp director. We came up with very simple. Scavenger hunts that anyone can do. It's just thinking about all the crazy things that you have in your home like like tools in the garage or maybe stuff in the kitchen just being silly with it like sifting green. That could protect protect you from the rain. I had a kid pool a bucket from under his sink and he put it on top of his head like look. This is the perfect rain hat. Murray is making sure the kids get outdoors as well. It's it's okay for kids to be on their devices if they're still using it for things are beneficial to them so like taking them outside and having them do Workout videos or something. A highly recommend the cosmic kid's Yoga. That's awesome. They base a lot of it off of movies like they have a trolls one. They have star wars minecraft anytime. You can combine something. That they like was something that they don't like you can like Mash it together a little bit like want to do it but Karen Arroyo is concerned. Virtual camp isn't the answer for her family in her. Three children live in the Bronx one of the areas of New York City Hall hit by the pandemic. They've been isolated for months and spending a lot of time in front of screens both for school and during downtime a become such whole body insurers I'm concerned about how this is in effect them so knew when they go back to school. Arroyo's Kids Ages. Fourteen eleven and ten. Were supposed to go to a two week. Sleep away camp organized. By the Fresh Air Fund the fund provides free summer activities to New York City kids whose households meet certain income requirements. But all of its normal programming has been canceled. My youngest children were the most appointing because They've been quarantined on so they were looking forward to having those two weeks out in. Nature closed our parks across the street from us so the children don't even have that anymore. Which isn't just disappointing to kids but parents. Well many of us also look forward to some kind of break during the summer. Arroyo is a patient care technician and has spent much of the last two months working with Cova patients in a Bronx Hospital. She was hoping to have some time to herself while her kids were away. Thank Connie to that signs to Kinda vet you know. I needed time to myself time where it wouldn't affect them instead. Royal said she's looking into setting up some therapy sessions for herself and she's ordering puzzles for her kids and having them log into their schools arts and crafts nights the fresh Air Fund is planning a virtual camp option and is hoping to offer family camping on its properties to families who have been in quarantine together. It's also organizing some safe play areas around New York City where kids can do some sidewalk. Chalk hula-hoop and well just get some fresh air. Executive Director of a team of Chamois says these place bases will also provide opportunities for local teenagers. Who summer jobs fell through the opportunity to deputise young people in neighborhoods as coaches or counselors? Captains is going to be key. And so we're GONNA turn our Fisher Fund community but we're GONNA turn to the New York City community. Shama is optimistic that they won't be short on activities. She's already working to organize activities. That are still fun. But from a distance frisbees great social distancing sport soccer if you just kicking the ball back and forth badminton great just sort of hitting back and forth in a ping pong style manner Hopscotch amazing jump rope right. You know you can easily say six feet apart and look. We're all tired. Working from home is a lot harder than I think. A lot of us expected and going out into the world can sometimes feel scary. The pandemic is taking its toll in. We may not even be aware of so. Don't beat yourself up occupied every second. Here's Pediatrician Dr. Tanya again she used to have a no screen time during the week rule for her kids but she's relaxed that lately as long as they're eating healthy getting exercise sleeping getting downtime. It's okay to be a little bit more lenient on your screen. Time rolls but you know. I have to say that made me realize these past couple of months just how over scheduled my kids have been. Typically I mean I really Just didn't get the time with them. They weren't getting the time with themselves. And you know. I'm not sure that they were that happy with all these various activities Is this a good thing? Do you think in some ways you know. That's a very good point because kids before did not have enough downtime in their life and they were chew over schedule and they kept sinking. I'm bored I'm bored. I'm bored so I think that's something that a lot of our kids are GonNA learn to appreciate this summer. Even though if regular summer was scheduled they probably would have gone through the whole summer so fast and not even had a moment to just sit down and think. Your kids might be bummed out. There's no better way to say it. But the summer itself doesn't have to be a bummer. Personally I'm going to try and soak up all the extra time I have with my daughters and try and make it a time. They will remember. They're going to be gone before I know it. And while we're going to do a summer vacation or do camps or a lot of the things they were looking forward to we are gonNA spend some real time together. Doing things we had never imagined. If you have questions you can record them as a voice memos and email them to ask Sanjay at CNN dot com. We might even include them on the next podcast also. Cnn is teaming up with sesame street for a special town hall. I'm going to be talking to my new friend. Big Bird about the ABC's of covid nineteen. He can watch that the Saturday at ten eastern if you miss it you can catch the highlights at CNN dot com slash sesame street. We'll be back Monday. Thanks for listening. Corona virus fact versus fiction is a production of CNN audio. Meghan Marcus is the executive producer. Felicia Patinkin is the senior producer along with Amanda Ely and Nadia Kooning from CNN. Health Raj Mukija is the senior manager of production operations. This week's episodes were produced by Evan Chung and La Mayo in Zoe Saunders with additional help from Michael Mettlement are associate producers. Are Emily Lou. Aaron Mathewson Madeline Thompson and Rachel Cohn Nathan. Miller is our engineer and David Toledo is the teams production assistant special thanks to the executive producer of CNN health. Ben Tinker as well as Ashley. Lusk Courtney Coupe and Daniel Cantor from CNN audio.
Thank You, Teacher
"Teachers should make a billion dollars get more vacation time. Spend their days wrangling. All are crazy kids when they go out. They should get pre bottomless wine. That's Jimmy Fallon on the tonight show earlier this week. I think voicing the thoughts of so many families. The song was a nod to national teacher appreciation. Week which ends today. But you'd probably go on all year long like schools across the country. The week looked very different compared to years past instead of apples on their desks or gift cards from parents teachers might have received an Apple Emoji or some on then mo. You know why. It's because forty seven states and the district of Columbia have ordered or recommended school closures for the rest of the school year. Teachers across the country have taken their lessons online to try and weather this pandemic so today will some of these teachers struggles and successes in navigating remote learning. I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. We had really try to make everything work in the virtual world and that's challenging to do because most teachers like myself we don't sign up for that. We sign up for the interaction. We sign up for the collaboration and we sign up for those human moments that you can't really replicate online. That's Chris deer. Two Thousand Twenty Louisiana teacher of the year and a finalist for the two thousand twenty national teacher of the year. I teach at Shawmut High School in Louisiana right outside of New Orleans. Dear teaches world history to seniors and AP human geography to Freshman. I didn't know what that was. He said it's sort of like anthropology inspired to teach partly because of a formative personal experience. I was in high school when Hurricane Katrina hit. I was a senior. It was our second week. It disrupted the entire region down here. I was forced to Texas. I stayed in hotels in shelters in bounced around different schools. And I missed out on a lot of big events that a lot of people look forward to their senior year sound. Familiar deer has a pretty good idea of what is current students. Probably feel. It's a time when you're supposed to be celebrating all of your hard work your dedication. Your accomplishments When your family supposed to watch you walk across that stage cheer? So it's it's a time that you'll never get to Redo and you'll never get back and it's not just a loss for dear students. Some of them will be the first in their families to graduate from high school and the ceremony would have been meaningful to the relatives as well. Dear has students who are also dreamers undocumented immigrants who arrived in the United States as children Andy has students. They're working essential jobs while they also balance online classes. Learning Online. Might seem easy enough if you're a student with the computer or the Internet but deer also has students who didn't have the luxury of these tools so a lot of students that originally didn't have Internet when this happened. We were Distributed work in packets in just literally papers out when we were distributing food but my district personally has been a given chromebooks out to students who need them and trying to collaborate with local organizations to get hot spots to get kids connected so I think teachers all across the country are doing everything they can to get kids online and to keep that that learning going as Peron's a community school in Phoenix Arizona has also handed out chromebooks in Wi fi to some of its students. But that's not all the school is providing. I think a lot of US forget how schools are to our communities. Even if you're not a student there Hannah Wysong teaches science and English at Esperanza mostly to low income students. She has helped distribute food boxes and gift. Cards to grocery stores. But as this pandemic drags on why song in her colleagues are looking ahead. To long-term challenges families might face food is available and a lot of schools in food. Banks is. This has gone on for a couple of months and parents are not working or working less The next set that working right now is to build a fund for rental assistance. And that's just the creative problem solving. Why Song has been a part of outside the classroom after students have been set up with food and Wi fi is when her real job and the real connection begins and these teachers have come up with all kinds of new ways to do that as well something that we normally at our school? This House monthly family nights with movies are dinner or games or whatever it may be and we were really mourning the loss of family nights and we decided to do it. Virtual dance parties so we got a local Dj from a radio station. And then we invited all of the families to get on zoom there. Were I think between forty five and fifty people on between families and staff and pretty cute to see a bunch of little squares of third graders? Dancing Chris Wyckoff who teaches American history to eleventh graders? North Carolina has taken advantage of our reliance on the Internet to send his students. Some encouragement been sending out digital cards. To let them know that I still see you. I still see your work. I still see you're working hard. Wyckoff has been proud of how well his students at the Johnston County career and technical leadership academy have taken online classes after all they could easily just turned the video off and go do something else online learning you know it has its it has its good and its bad. Even depending on the type of learner you are in a lot of our students are capable of making the adjustment at home all of those the social and emotional atmosphere of home versus the social emotional atmosphere at school all of those things combined to either create atmosphere for success or failure for for the students. Chris dineen this is another. Chris said there were hiccups using video-conferencing at first we had zoom bomb the first or second date but his middle school students at Albuquerque Academy in New Mexico. Have come around. The students themselves had to adapt to a totally different style of teaching and they've actually had to become somewhat more accountable for their own behavior. Because of course we can't see them and monitor them in the ways that we normally do. Laurie Abrahams finds this challenging to. She's a special education teacher on Long Island and works with three to five year olds. Who have special needs during normal times? Work incredibly physical and requires personalized interactions with each student. These days she struggles to get her students to sit still in front of the camera. All kids do well with schedule. Especially the kids with special needs listening issues and attending issues. They really need that. They need that routine. And the you know it's very hard. It's very hard for them but like everyone else. Abrahams has come up with ways to make it work. In fact she borrowed one method of calming her students. Down from children's Yoga certification course. What I'm doing with my fingers touching my thumb to forefinger middle finger rain finger and pinkie and so you have them do that. So it's four touches and then you just say peace begins with me and they understand that peace means quiet and then we keep doing it at any time. You feel anxious or that. You need to calm down you can just you can. Just move your fingers like that. It's thoughtful it's innovative. It's what's necessary the teachers we spoke to said they've mostly worked out the kinks of remote learning and they feel optimistic about finishing the year apart from their students but in the long run. They're still not so sure. I think these kids are young enough. That if it's just four months in the scheme of along is this is not gonNa make the biggest difference because they didn't have four months of preschool. I think that in the fall if kids can't go back to school if they have to learn online. I think that's going to you know really impact this whole generation. This won't surprise you but Chris Dear Louisiana teacher whose own senior year was interrupted by Hurricane Katrina this pandemic once again highlights the need for more investment in education. I know a lot of times when the economy starts to Tank a bit. The first thing that gets cut is education and people might say well. Why do we need as much you know money for education budgets when they do things virtually and whatnot but at this time? I feel like we need more because we need more counselors. We need more. Social workers we need more therapists need smaller classes. And that's how we're going to get through this. These five teachers said the feedback. They've gotten from students and parents has mostly been positive but during the strange difficult national teacher appreciation. Week it's nice for them to hear that their efforts haven't gone unnoticed so since they can't hug their teachers in person this year we got some amazing shouts from students all over. Who want their teachers to know that their students are grateful? My Name is Dalton Davis. I am seven years old from flawless. Oregon. I want to say hi to my first grade teacher. Mrs and Mr Hello. My name is MIRA sing and I am in seventh grade. I would like to thank all of my amazing teachers. Hi My name is Leah. And I'm a fourth grader. I want to give a shot at to my awesome teacher Mr Festival. He is there every day with a smile. Hi My name is Cassie from Whittier California. And thank you to all the teachers especially my Fourth Grade Teacher Mrs Cutler and I'm Kassy's MOM Krista I also WanNa say on behalf of my fourteen year old David who has autism. We appreciate the Special Ed teachers like Mrs Gain. Thanks hi I'M AMELIA. Ham seven years old. I'm in second grade. I have the best teachers and I can't wait the virus to beautiful so I could go back to school. Thanks so much for sending those in and thank you all the teachers who are guiding our kids through this time. I have three daughters in school right now. I watched them get educated by teachers online. I watched the patience of those teachers and I watch my kids. Lawsom and grow. I can't thank you enough. I also want to give a quick about next week. I'm going to be talking to experts about what we can expect in the months and years to come starting with the conversation with my friend and colleague for Kara. You can watch a special edition of free show. Gps The Sunday. We'll be back Monday. Thanks for listening. Corona virus fact versus fiction is a production of CNN audio. Megan Marcus is the executive producer. Felicia Patinkin is the senior producer along with Nadia coning. Amanda Sealy from CNN health. Raj Makita is the senior manager of production operations. This week's episodes were produced by an Laga. Mayo Zoe Saunders. And Zach Saint Louis with additional help from Michael Middlemen are associate producers. Are Rachel Cohn Emily? Lou? Aaron Mathison and Madeleine Thomson Nathan. Miller is our engineer and David Toledo is the teams production assistant special thanks to the executive producer of CNN health. Ben Tinker as well as Ashley Lusk Courtney Coop and Daniel Cantor from CNN audio.
The Future of Surveillance
"In My neighborhood here in Seoul there was a confirmed case. I had the emergency alert. There was a confirmed case. They went to your local supermarket on this date between these hours. That's Paula hancocks. Cnn's international correspondent based in South Korea. One day she got a text message from the government providing her information about confirmed Cova case near her and when I went to the supermarket late and they explained that this individual had used a self checkout counter and me which one it even told me that this individual had bought cried chilies. What Paul is describing may sound like something out of science fiction. But that's what South Korea's doing to fight the pandemic right now and so far. It's working as the United States begins to open up expert said that rigorous contact tracing is an important part of the safe way forward could what we see in South Korea. Be Our future as well. And how much surveillance is too much? I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction the cove in nineteen pandemic is changing our lives in so many ways. And what's going to happen in? The future is still unclear. Are we going to have to download APPS? Will those under quarantine have to wear responds? Will we BE SCANNED FOR FEVERS? Every time we step into an office or restaurant I've been hearing all sorts of questions like these so I wanted to speak with Jennifer nozoe. She's an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. I wanted to know what role technology might play in our fight against this pandemic. Could we soon be using these contact tracing APPs here in the United States I think it's inevitable and in fact it's actually already happening? That public health agencies are going to use APPS to help them conduct contact tracing whether these APPs fundamentally change tact tracing is done remains to be seen. I personally it would be a little bit worried if we used APPs instead of people. It's not clear to me that we would get better data that way. The question is how are we going to use it? And what features of the technology are we going to use? It's one thing to use it to keep track of data and to help you analyzed data. It's another thing to use it to figure out exactly where someone's been over the last fourteen days and I think there are some important operational questions that need to be answered about those approaches as well as some potential legal and ethical questions we do use contact tracing in this country for other diseases. A lot of people are hearing this term for the first time but with foodborne illnesses and things like that. That already happens right yeah. It's a traditional tool of public health. Tr- instance in tuberculosis outbreaks measles outbreaks. And there is You know case investigations that happened with Woodward outbreaks to I would say the frequency with which it's used has probably decreased in recent years purely due to resources it's incredibly resource intensive to do contact tracing as public health departments over recent years have suffered budget cuts and declining resources their abilities to do contact tracing has declined and that's I think one of the unfortunate kind of preparedness erosions that we've seen over time that we're now in the midst of a pandemic trying to make up for by hiring possibly hundreds of thousands of new contact tracers when you think about the APP based technologies again in merging that with some of these human contact tracers to help supplement that sort of work. Can you give some idea of what life would look like then so there are a few different approaches? There's one method where the phone tracks your movement things off of Cell Towers and it knows where you've been and authorities potentially could take advantage of the ability of your phone to say where you've been to once you become a case potentially look back at where you've been for the last fourteen days and then use that to identify places where you may have exposed people to try to get in touch with people who may have also been at that same place. There are other approaches. Where you use the phone's ability to kind of tell who you've been near and to try to find people that you may have exposed that way that's seen as slightly less invasive because it's more about identifying who's been near you rather than exactly determining where you've been typically in the US and we do contact tracing it starts with an interview where you ask the patient basically remember all the places they've been when you're talking about fourteen days though it can be tough for people to remember exactly and so sometimes you have to use other methods to maybe fill in the gaps for instance for foodborne outbreaks. We try to figure out where you spend money over the last fourteen days as a proxy for where you may have been but we haven't yet in the. Us seen widespread use of the cellphone based technologies the Location Services or the more Bluetooth ones. That tell you who you've been Aaron. I think there has been some interest in potentially using these technologies but in my view these are the ones that have some questions around them in terms of public acceptability and what the limitations for their use are. So what does this mean for all of us? Are we moving toward big brother surveillance? State government officials are now calling upon Silicon Valley's tech leaders to try and help. We need to view this as an information problem when we need to come up with estimates for where the disease is and when we can find hotspots. Put THEM OUT. Eric Schmidt used to be the CEO of Google. Now he's leading up a fifteen member commission to help guide New York toward using new technology in the wake of Kovic. Nineteen the Google Apple. Collaboration preserves your privacy but it's completely voluntary apple and Google are collaborating to develop software that would enable Bluetooth base tracking on their devices if users opt in this data would be shared with governments and public health authorities and then there's clear view a facial recognition technology company. What we do is we have database from day one of over three billion photos. We have a mobile APP and a desktop and we also have the highest accuracy out there in the market. The company claims that they can scan public surveillance camera footage to identify people who might have been in contact with confirmed corona virus patients last month they told NBC News that they're already in talks with several state and federal agencies to help with contact tracing meanwhile countries around the world are trying different approaches to keep the pandemic Ed Bay. Some of them are using more extensive surveillance than others. China's reopening is happening under the watchful eye of big data and perhaps big brother that CNN international correspondent David Culver. He's been reporting from Shanghai and Wuhan throughout this pandemic local governments tracking the movements of hundreds of millions. We notice the started this effort back in mid February arriving in Shanghai from Beijing each arriving passenger required to write down health and travel history and register for your personal. Qr OR BARCODE. Walk into a restaurant hotels shopping mall. You're expected to show it here in Shanghai Shopowners hotel managers have told us a green means. You're clear to go in yellow red suggest you've been in an area with high exposure to the virus and it could mean quarantine another country to note. South Korea which has been applauded for how well at handled the pandemic thanks to its thorough testing and contact tracing process. Here again is Paula hancocks. Cnn's international correspondent in South Korea. They have a special team within the Health Ministry effectively cyber detectives they are the ones who are trying to track down every last person who could potentially have this virus and I spoke to one of the men who was the cyber detective and he said all they need is a mobile phone number of somebody who has tested positive. They need a credit card number and they put that into their system and with intend to twenty minutes. They know exactly where that individual has been for about two weeks they know which locations they know how long they've spent there And then they can use that information to then warn the rest of the country if they have been in that particular area but as you might imagine. This system has raised some concerns about privacy rights recently. There was an outbreak at a nightclub district in Seoul and local media revealed quite early on that. Some of these clubs were gay clubs now. This is after local. Authorities had already given details of the twenty nine year. Old Man who they believe was the first to start spreading in this area and that person's workplace and employer was then very quickly made aware that this man was homosexual. Now you might not think. That's too much of an issue. But there is homophobia here in in South Korea. Could what's happening in. South Korea also happened in the United States. There are real consequences to losing our privacy. So where do we draw the line? Privacy rights experts say that we should be wary of companies promising Grand Tech Solutions. Almost immediately what we saw was a number of companies crawling out of the woodwork offering solutions for Cova D- related problems based on snake oil science and sketchy data. That's Jennifer granick an attorney from the American Civil Liberties Union. Her work focuses on surveillance and cybersecurity. People are really uncomfortable putting an APP on their phone. That's designed by big companies or by the government that's going to track them and collect health information about them. The ACLU recently put a guidelines about how we can safely and effectively use technology in contact tracing while also minimizing our privacy risks. I think it's really important to design the technology in a secure and private way from the beginning and that means that you collect as little data as possible and the user has control over it that the user can delete their data can delete the APP and that the information is used for the public health purpose some of US may feel like we have nothing to hide and so nothing to fear but we have to remember that some people have a lot more at risk and they should also be protected in the United States people who are most afraid of tracking our spouses. Who have been abused in are fleeing domestic violence ammendments who fear that their relatives are going to get arrested and deported to black and Brown communities. Who are historically over policed and we need to make sure that the health response helps everybody and not just people who have a low sensitivity about their privacy ultimately we need to really think carefully about the risks and benefits of using the sort of technology in our battle against cove in nineteen. I think Americans do have to be very careful that. We're not building surveillance that isn't going to work or that. Were stuck with surveillance infrastructures. That are going to haunt us. After the price is over in our race to beat the virus. It is tempting to put our hope. Some technology that promises a quick and easy solution but we also need to know that data about our lives will be protected now during this crisis and after this is all over. We'll be back Monday. Thanks for listening. Corona virus fact versus fiction is a production of CNN audio. Meghan Marcus is the executive producer. Felicia Patinkin is the senior producer along with Amanda and Nadia Kooning from CNN health. Raj Makita is the senior manager of production operations. This week's episodes were produced by an Demayo. Evan Chung Zach Saint Louis and Zoe Saunders are associate producers are Emily Lou. Aaron Mathewson Madeline Thompson and Rachel Cohn Nathan. Miller is our engineer and David Toledo is the teams production assistant special thanks to the executive producer of CNN health. Ben Tinker as well as Ashley. Lusk Courtney Coupe and Daniel Cantor from CNN audio.
Hour 2: Stephen A. Smith
"The. Jerem put on the poll, please is it. Okay. To steal some of your daughter's girl scout cookie. Well, the money. No, no, I know. But I'm asking a different question. I'm saying is it? Oh, no. It's, it's the probably less. Okay to steal the money. Debater. So I wanted to ask you, this, because I have rarely seen Mike Ryan is wounded by no mission as he was wounded that Stephen a Smith didn't publicly celebrate as part of his resume receiving trophy from us. We can agree, right? That the biggest pop of energy that you felt from the crowd on Saturday night. Even though that was a crowd, that was really loving flattering adoring at the Gramercy theatre was when at the end of the night, we awarded goat broadcaster of the year. It was it was this moment or Alison, when she came out a trophy with Stephen with a goat on it. Stephen a Smith swaggered out, and that was the half, what happened like. Well, I was just remembering Stephen a we, we awarded him this goof of a trophy. Right. It's a gag gift. It has. It's a trophy with a goat on top of it, and it had seen. As name on it, and we awarded him a T so watch, which was gifted us for the event by the fine people at T. So, but it was sort of unclear whether or not, we can keep it and even eight left the event with the trophy, which was shocking, he took. I can't find the trophy. I think you hopped in his in his secure in his vehicle with the security detail, and the go trophy is so with him, and he definitely took the T. So watch. I feel like listener still that they were taking everything they were walking out of there with pillows that were on the couch with your wanted to buy the pillows, they were asking me how much of the pill walked out with a sign that said, VIP seating. It didn't even have anything on about the show said, VIP seating, and could be a normal grammar and sign and they were just hearing it was vaguely apocalyptic like when you gotta fight people for stuff got stickers and somebody knocked over their mom. It was weird. So Stephen Smith. He gave us his bona fides do you guys wanna hear yesterday? Stephen a Smith resume talk with Stephen a Smith. The part that hurts. Mike is what about our trophy? Why isn't that? Why goat broadcaster of the year? It doesn't even merit mention on the Stephen Smith resume as he gives you the bona fides for two straight minute. Where heard I r- this live and I desperately want to hear it again. Okay. I have not heard this. But Mike, what is your level of wounding with this, that you wanted him to mention amid his, but he's got so many bona fides that getting giant trophy that he took home with the security detail on Saturday night after the roaring applause of our audience was larger for him than it was for anybody except inexplicably. Allison. What is the nature of your wounding here? Does this need anymore setup? I'm so hurt because he goes on and on and on. This is the first of two clips and this one's almost two minutes, you would think that the two thousand nineteen goat broadcaster of the year trophy, the highest honor would make its way into this list of accolades, but I feel like he goes through his resume all the time. And this is the newest addition to his resume, and perhaps it's gonna take a minute for him to weave this into his game. I mean, Stephen Smith, we go sit up here we go, put me on Front Street. I was a beat writer. Do you know that most of these people in this business, never covered? The be do you know they never traveled two hundred and fifty times out of the year covering the team every single damn day. Do you know their definition of breaking stories half the time in this day and age is picking something up Twitter. They break stories like Uproxx stores. I started out as a high school reporter before that I was an intern at three different locations. I lived off the tuna fishing Cooley. I watched that arch del North Carolina. I started off as a high school writer. And from there, I was a backup MBA writer before being an NBA beat writer before being an NBA columnist before becoming a general sports columnist, one of only twenty one African Americans and American history at the time I climbed from the gutter to get to where I'm at, and even when I supposedly arrived, even when I'm supposedly making this money, I'm working three hundred forty five plus days a year. I hope the television show, that's top rated. I'm hosting a radio show. Don't know if you heard the news, yet, we up in the ratings baby. Okay. In other words, what people are talking about out doing, and by the way, I'm not on TV believing that my definition of entertainment, it just the talk and go home while you delivering garbage ratings. No, no, no no winning in the ratings and television and radio. And, oh, by the way, working, like crazy. While doing it. So people that wanna talk about me. I ask you a question, where are they name the Tom place and I'll show up. Let's put one resume up against another. Because again, we're going back to magic when we're talking about us as black people. You know what we gotta talk about resumes, because the only language, anybody understands and even then it's hard for them to comprehend. Okay. Now I understand where that comes from though, because I was confused. I want you guys to imagine. Okay, me explaining to Stephen a Smith. Mike rarely does this. But like Dan, please go handle this for us sending meet. Socially awkward me into the fray. All right, Steven, this is what I need. I need you to just come out and get your trophy and say, stay off the weed, and, and, and, and so he agreed to come out and do something that he might not have necessarily understood. But in the conversation where I'm telling him goat broadcast, or we're gonna ward it to you in that conversation at the end of it. This is what he says, did you hear what so? And so said about my source, and I'm like, I don't know what he's talking about. I don't care. But this is the way Stephen Smith doesn't it's why he's the goat. He will go. Find anyone anyone who says something about him doesn't have his resume and talk to that person. So he's. Like. I've got something for him. Give me his number. Where's he at do you know, him can I can I need to talk to him? I need this person who has questioned my source. I like he will, whether you're John wall, whether you're damn ear, whether you're respected, find he will if you if you're Kevin Durant. He will find you. He has a particular set of skills. That's exactly right. I know what that is. Exactly right. One of those skills as being the two thousand nine hundred broadcaster here and just the mention dude, we gave you the respect to you so badly crave. Come on. But that's not the respect he craves. He looks for he if you slight him that is he should be named goat and he should get his dropping. Don't you dare slight him or that trophy? Don't you say that he doesn't deserve it? It's going in the back with all the other smaller trophies. It is a big trophy, but it's molars is bees hardware. It was of little large it was a little too, large. Look, I don't there's no, I make money moves. Hold on. Like you said, you got two more minutes of this two more two minutes in which he doesn't mention the two thousand nineteen broadcast or the air because I heard it live. And the clip you just played felt short did hey, went off. Motivated, nicely, as Jerry on top and on top of all of that two thousand nineteen broadcaster of the year. We'll allow Stephen aid to do our show for us a little more in the next segment, when we play the other two minutes or you Grainger. There are a lot of people believe in the quality service that Grainger provides probably because grainger's bail them out of plenty of trouble in the workplace, tell them to ES, keeping your facility officiant means keeping your facility prepared when it comes to manage changes, grainger's. Got your bag Grainger provide you with the products and solutions that have keep facility on schedule and on budget ranger help. She is simple fly, that's man. How to place the orders online manager inventory. 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He's not Robert middle initial cost us whenever he does reports can you imagine if he were body Kostas no way? Bob causes definitely has group Tech's fringe. Like Bob AA. What are you doing this weekend? She hates that only the people that hate him. Call him Bobby stugatz. I can't even say his middle name is so fancy. Real name, Robert Quinlan, Costas, all exactly. Jabre Q costs. Bob, cue. Doesn't that the group chat? Call him. Bobby q, r Quinlan costs these live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Honey badgers? Now a safety for the Kansas City Chiefs. If you did not know that he was a fun player in college who had all sorts of issues that we talked to them about, and I think sometimes, and we'll get to the Stephen a Smith sound a second. I don't remember the name of the player who was in the, at the Cowboys, but he was having his family was interrupting his work day trying to sort of get money from him as the team was practicing. And there's something happening right now where when you put money around these guys as athletes, sometimes what it welcomes is a bit terrifying. And. I don't know. I don't know how to pronounce his last name because I always call him, Walter Matthau. Of course few. So let's first name Tyra tyrant, methionine, Honey badger. I'm doing this to God's thing. Just Honey badgers, go, Honey badger. He entered this, this mercenary class at Rivas was a part of that Domine Suez where he's just going to be on a different team every year, taking a one year contract. Did you know put it on the poll game at lebatardshow? Did you know that Tyronn Matthew was a Kansas City Chiefs safety? But did you know 'cause you kinda asked it? I didn't I didn't I didn't know Houston last zone of the year before I did not know that so WD SU is reporting that it's Tena federal after David affidavit in which someone is accused of asking Matthew for one point five million deposited into his account while threatening to provide the media with allegations of sexual misconduct, according to WD SU, this person allegedly texted, Matthew with the message five million by Friday. I'm done talking emailing TMZ now the court documents also alleged that he told some of Matthew's relatives I want one point five million by Friday or I'm going to kill you all. And the thing that I wanted to ask you, because we saw Letterman handled this the embezzles did too, like when you're being extorted for sexual shame. And I don't know the nature of what's happening here. The move has to be it has to be right to to go. You can't keep hiding from that and you can't keep paying for that you have to go to thority and try and trap that person that has to be the move correct, eventually. Yes. That has to I think probably right off the bat that you probably be. But it's hard, right? Because you have to come clean with the shame. You've gotta get out in front of everything beforehand, whether you're or whether you're David Letterman, and now you've got to face your wife. You gotta face your wife. What this thing that you've been trying to keep concealed the only solution to it is to tell everybody. Yeah. I think that's why I think that's these solution. That makes the problem go away, the fastest and be gives you the greatest about a peace of mind. Yes, you are hurting people. That you love. But at least you're getting out of the way, the nature of the threat, though, is what, what I am fascinated by the nature of the threat makes you what do I value more? The solution to this is I'm going to umbrellas my wife publicly nets. Not. She needs to know something, although she too needs to know. And that's going to be hard, if indeed what we're talking about. We're not talking about in this case. I don't know what the nature of the threat is in the cases of Bezos, and Letterman, your only choice in order to how to handle. This is not just merely. I have to tell the person who's harder than anyone in the world to tell I gotta tell everybody good. God, it's a hard decision to make. It's why it's why they could be extorted and no good options, Dan zero. There is one option that I guess you spend less money on because eventually it's going to come out. That's why they always say, never actually pay the blackmailer, because they're just gonna come back asking for more or perhaps you should have thought about all this on the front end. They know he's always there. He's always there for you play the result guy. So when you're again for the record, if you didn't know how to handle the situation, according to God's. It's don't do anything immoral and moral authority think about things on the front end. Wait a minute. You know what I am here for stugatz trying to zig when others zagging and getting business cards that make him the immoral authority on all matters. Immorality, the idea that your sitting here. Second guessing and playing the result. Listen to what you gotta do is just be honest. That's a thing that came out of your mouth. Just live your life correctly, that is all I'm saying that, you know, run into these problems, you know, because if you live in life, the right way, Dan, you can't be extorted. You don't say anything to the world you don't break the hearts of the people that you love most. I mean think about these things on the front end. Extortions fun. I trust me got it from a friend donlevatar dodgers closer kenley Jansen. I gotta be careful here. What do we start against stugatz closer? He's the closer comes in thinning closes the game. It's name his kenley Jansen. He is blamed his regent. These are show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So we will get to that. Stephen Smith resume bona fides sound in a second. But you saw we talked about it, when it happened that Aretha Franklin. Good. God. How can you guys imagine what's gots would do? All right. I want you to imagine Stu gods living in a wreath of Franklin's family, so Retha Franklin didn't it was reported have a will. And so when she passes away, it's going to be chaos, if she doesn't have a will because of the number of things that she has that have value and what ends up happening is. They found a will and not only did they find a will they found three wills they found three wells, but it was hidden in her home in the sofa cushions this, according to the New York Times, three handwritten documents detailing her post death wishes were found inter Detroit home to found in a locked cabinet. One was stashed under the sofa cushion. And I'm wondering how to God's if students thought he was entitled the money I see a house being taken apart. How did this stuff get found? I can't get past the magic stugatz as he is Stu gods. In Aretha Franklin's family. The Queen of soul. So what do you imagine? Stugatz finds out look. Hey, because if he finds the will and it doesn't have anything for him. He's ripping it up. Right. There'd be a fourth will and everything would go to me when there's a will there's a way fourth will to his writing on it. In writing on misspellings? All the money is mine, all the money versus this was not written by to God's. Why does this? We'll say all the money is for be. Stephen a Smith, if you weren't with us before gave you two minutes of resume bona, fides, and here he is, again, giving you another bonus two minutes of resume bona fide, all of these people that are talking. I remember. I don't insult my colleagues. I'm insulted everyday. But people in this company, not just outside people in this company and what I'm doing is bringing ratings and revenue to the company. I'm not an liability on an asset point to a hope. But two people that a liability. But I'll never do that because this class and the Corum and professionalism that has to come with this job, but make no mistake about it. I'm in a position to eat people, a lot any day, I will too. It's just no. I won't do it. Which is why they come with their nonsense and their garbage. So all I could do as impre that the big bosses who make those decisions at whatever network. Would weed out unproductive people who think Goth as production who never ratings who never generate revenue? But wanna talk about what they deserve while on vacation. When most people are working when those people are willing to come front and center and talk about me name, Tom in place, and I'll show them, but they won't do it, they'll leave it to people like you Marcus respectfully, because I'm not dissing you at all. They'll leave it to people like you to call up here and talk about what they said behalf. Folks back, they will say it to my face eat them alive. Eat them alive. Here's one of the things though he ain't tell an any lies there. This is the thing. The reason I was careful about telling you, the story I told you is because I don't want to betray a confidence, and it's only because I'm scared for the victim. It ain't for Stephen a Smith. Like he will not publicly go after the person. But that better that person better go. Run it because he's looking for them to handle, it privately, who is it? Yeah, of course. So my Mike, Mike was more terrified hearing that sound than he was hearing that the day wilder sound and Deontay wilder punches like a mule, kicks like that guy that guy told everybody that he wanted Saturday night to kill a man. Domonique brazil. Oh, see him. He's sick me. So if it calms tones. Jimmy sport. Aki Sanders to miss, but we don't ask the hitting face, but we don't have any doctor around the world and he'll tell you hit not me to be hit anybody can go. And on this particular time, we have bad blood heats up. See this is Don this. You can kill them in and get paid for it at the same time legal. So why not use my right to do so? So Mike just heard that sound, and it reminded him of John wick three and it reminded him of John wick, evidently, punching a horse oil alert. No, no. They, he has a fight in a sable against several baddies and part of the fight in this horse stable, John wick resourceful, slaps a horse on the butt and the horse kicks the bad guy in the face knocking his head damn near off. Well, this movie use all the tools in your toolbox that I mean what did you see the wilder knockout? I don't think there are many times in my life, that I have seen a heavyweight. Ted hit his shoulder like hit from the from the force of the punch hit his own shoulder that reminds me of the bow band fight, and John wick, it's early in their UC Boba ends. I'm not going to tell you very advice gusting people are going to be upset. If you do that, right wilder said after that fight, he didn't even feel the punch. You know how like when you hit a golf ball or baseball perfectly. You don't even feel it. I didn't know that, that happened with punches. What you say. He didn't feel it, but he certainly knew that no one was getting up from that because he spun away without without even looking to see how damaging was he knew. That's one of the things that Tyson fury. Did that was impressive that he just got up from the way that do punches? Tell me my fifty bucks about it. Tyson. Fury is Brad Pitt from snatch? He's an actual Irish Irish travel voluntary. Up like like Brad Pitt and snitch wilder hit him. He's that didn't bother me. Why because I come from two hundred years of bare knuckle fighter. A washing my trailer with my mom and see what I do. Oh. You hadn't seen it. No. But Mike says that the CNA smell Smith sound. We just played his more terrifying than the wilder sound and Mike also says that on this night as, as I don't know that you were scared. It didn't feel like you were scared, but I was scared. And Mike was scared. Billy were you scared? Of course you are. Chris were you scared? I was nervous, ROY were you scared? Of course, not, of course, not because you're so good at this. Right. So I was I mean listen. I was a little nervous but I didn't get nervous until you were shaking right next. Okay. But there's this, there's this for all the things that went into that night, and Mike being just generally scared because he was snorting New York, and it was crazy time that's outside. Well outside of my comfort zone. All of that he was most scared that he's been in his career when Mike, so we had stugatz New York observations as part of this show and in the run of show, I said, this is possibly going to be bumped for time. But we decided we felt good about the New York observations. We decided to push through, but I check my phone right before I did that at the then you might have seen in the background briefly goat of broadcaster of the year behind us. And it got out of sequence, because most people were just so scared of Steven as presence around the stage. I actually felt it. I looked behind me. I'm like, what is going on here there? A force on this age. And sure enough. I saw checker jacket, just like the outside. I knew what that meant. So the two and a half minutes that New York Ave, Sion's were going on. We're the longest two and a half minutes. My life saw you. I saw. I saw you this was where I saw the fear in your face most. Clearly that's why you told me to skip a few well and you ignore him. He would ignore them. This is skipped three. I said specific skip the empire. This feel Stephen is president is, is what I saw happening. I saw Mike trying to get you through New York observations that I saw Stu gods on the couch with his hand in his pants does. I got this, buddy. Got it all handle botched so many things in that show. I was a joint myself. I mean, the New York observations were killed it. I think so. Mike was trying to rush him through it. And he had the pressure, but also though it's because even twenty minutes 'cause my phone was vibrating in my pocket. And I knew what it was about. Let's go. Let's go. Get me out of here. Give me my trophy and get me out of here because he had to go to the wilder fight. And I'm pretty sure he missed it because it was in Brooklyn and the fight lasted nineteen. Oh, did we make him late for the wilder fight hope not no walking into the arena, after it's ended with the two thousand eighteen overhauled caster the year, and t so watch? I don't think they start the fight Stephen as not there. Donlevatar. The alley has a bad reputation in general, does Ron American history. But on south beach someone's always that just sitting somewhere smoking a cigarette. You can't go down in Allie around here, not see someone sitting there smoking retains a pulsating Keat from the night before you walked by some liquid. They're like, is that water last night. That's definitely not water. The liquid always avoid the liquids in an alley stugatz. I venture guess that, if you were to rake, your tongue on the asphalt of an alley dime, mmediately. I don't think it would be immediately. I you'd contract very quickly right before death several sexual diseases. And then you would die, these live at third show with this to God's own ESPN radio. So you decided to go nickname there on twenty lasy instead of the iron horse. Lou gehrig. Yup. Okay. Everyone knows that one. No one knows about Tony Lasse. Tony labs is a good player, I think only lasts probably all Famer that did you? No that I don't know, Horton cog for those nineteen twenty seven to nineteen thirty seven Yankees. I'll check it up. You want the Missouri numbers. Yeah. Sure. Tony lies. Happy thirty ninth birthday to the video game. Pacman happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good luck. I can't wait till we get to these Tony last stats. We'll do so in a second all star in nineteen thirty three that. But a tweeter writes in has it occurred to you that if I wanted to listen to Stephen a Smith. I would do. So he is a stain on the trousers of mankind. Uh-huh. Confirmed hall of Famer, I mean, Tony Laszlo lives in Cooperstown forever. Tweeter better watch is mouth because not only does he not get the show. He might get these hands. It's, it's interesting that he played back in the thirties, and then get into nineteen Ninety-one. That's quite the wait. There's nothing interest five years to the day what you're saying. Tony lazaris. Actual nickname is push him up twenty. I mean the greats get in five years after the retire, totally lies got in fifty five years after he retired push him up term life. I mean retire from life. Visit. But he's Indiana is in with one hundred seventy eight career homers. All right. What else does the statue look like listen? That's like five hundred back, then I mean, it is he died at age forty two and just as player photo. He looks like he's sixty people look so much older back then. You notice that your. Yeah, the mortality rate, people died earlier back then. Yes. Greg Cody running around. Google the age and it was like, no Mickey Mantle was actually Twenty-three here. I'm like, what that was the booze. And it was a boost for everybody back, then evidently, fifty war. That's good. How did we get here? Why is it that you're talking about Tony last a minor league staff? You've got his Reno aces. Got us here. You got his nickname wrong. What is pushing Tony? You didn't hear them. You just call them Tony lads. That's what his friends. Call him again. You had available to you. Lou Garrick Lou Gehrig. I doesn't have multiple nicknames. I'll check it out of the iron horse is the one that many people, you know, they go by Tony last Garrick Babe Ruth murderers row. I mean okay. So you go to another nickname, you don't like Joni lands, you're moving onto the next horse biscuit, pants BUSTER, low Rueben or Columbia, aren't hold on a second. Let's examine this hungry Lou. No. It also cites Lewis. One of his nicknames because his name was Henry. All right, wait a minute. What Lou Garrick wasn't Lou was. But in Hebrew is. Lou aaron. What, what I'm sorry. All time home run leader. Not getting those. Are you not understanding what we're doing there? Clearly, what's happening. I'm getting flashbacks of the first opening segment of all right? We'll tell the people finally tell the they were gonna get off Tony lies. Tell the people finally because this is the thing that happened gods. Yes. See here he digs in on the mistakes. And then everyone gives them the applause and keeps making the mistakes. He had no idea what we were doing there. So explain to Mike, the nature explain my to the people. The nature of your frustration was to God's on Saturday that he kept just going for the applause, trampling your job. We had a will Cain joke set up for the very end of the segment. The first words to got says, on the sage is will Cain and later gives will Cain a microphone before. We're supposed to give Wilkie microphone. We fed them pretty great jokes. PF commenter, who joined us on the stage in sort of crashed. It you wouldn't have known that because not only to not know PF tease name, which was became obvious. He forgot the line entirely he almost cursed when I told them. Hey, let's not dilute the f bomb because we have it saved for a special moment here. He got the timing all screwed up on the. Comedic joke that we were to tell Katie Nolan. He was an absolute disaster in the first segment, and he was just smiling the entire time. Oh, he put his drink right on top of the computer. That was to sounds as well. Everyone's on the first four minutes. Everyone loved the first four minutes. It's the same thing that Cody does it's like just giving the law. Over rub it on my nibbles. The what are your what are you so worried about Mike? Well, we'll Cain was in general admission and the VIP's were in VIP was going to be a surprise that will came emerged. Chime in obviously people notice came was there, because when he walked out he was the loudest booze. I had ever heard in theater of that side. Is that what that was? I couldn't figure out where all that booing was coming from. And why the booing was happening. I was in a different part of the Bill, which is will Cain being escorted to his seat. Minding his own business. Wrestling, any needs it up up. We're got to me. He loved it any turn to escorting them to get that for social. Loves that. History of sports media loves everyone's poisonous hatred.
Pdraig Tuama and Marilyn Nelson A New Imagination of Prayer
"Support for on being with KRISTA. Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding guiding principle and animating force for our lives a powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves others and the natural world learn more by visiting sitting fetzer dot. Org I love a phrase of Padre Goto math that we must choose words that deepen the argument of being alive you've both he and Marilyn Nelson our beloved teachers to me and to many I'd interviewed each of them separately and to bring them together was a delight and a bomb Tom. She's a poet and professor and contemporary give an excavator of stories. That would rather stay hidden yet. Lead us into new life. He is a poet and theologian and has been a social healer at cornmeal in Northern Ireland. which he calls a soft place for hard conversations as this conversation progressed best? We ventured unexpectedly into the hospitable and intriguingly universal form of poetry that is prayer so let us pick up the stones over which we stumble friends and build authors. Let us listen to the sound of breath in our bodies that has listened to the the sound of our voices of our own names of our own fears that's Klar selves out from the Graves we've dug let's lick the earth from our fingers. Let us look up and out and around. The world is big and wide and wild and wonderful and wicked wicked and our lives are murky magnificent malleable and full of meaning or Ramos. Let us pray. I'm Krista Tippett and this is on being. This conversation unfolded at the two thousand eighteen on being gathering at the fourteen forty multiversity in Scotts valley in California Maryland Nelson was born in Cleveland and grew up in a military family. I love there's one place where you talk. I I remember this. You tell me if I'm making this up that when you and your sister when you would move on onto new places because we moved around a lot and that you would imagine that the places you live before it didn't exist anymore. We didn't imagine I believed it. Yeah so you you left. And they went away. Your father was in the last graduating class of tuskegee airman. And you've said that you're early early. Ethical training came from reading your father's old college poetry books and Maryland is a storytelling history. Telling poet an writer for adults and children and she's very esteemed as a poet among poets. She's a chancellor of Kademi of American poets. PADRAIG Hutumo grew up near Cork in the south of Ireland the Republic of Ireland but he has lived for many years now in Northern Ireland. Where he's now a leader of Corey Meal O.? Which is which is a community that helped bring peace to Northern Ireland over many years and remains a beacon and a refuge for people around around the world and we have a lot to learn from them Maryland? I'll just start with you. Do you think about this moment. We inhabit inhabit. I wonder if there's something in the spiritual background of Your Life Your childhood or your or your vocational locational life however you define spiritual that is really especially present to you right now and that may mean troubling you motivating automating you nourishing you. I'm not sure the moment we inhabit now is very fraught and I suppose the teaching learning of my background. That's most I present to me. Now is the isn't historical memory of where we came from. Mm what our ancestors survived. How in African American culture are there is a hope of fierce hope that sustained stained people in spite of everything? And I duNNO I. I've told students often Over the years that just touching that history just imagining how people oh went on is a source of strength because the forces of the world seem to be intent on destroying our grasp on hope. So I guess that's the truest thing I can say about my own experience and there's two things that come to my mind. The first is so when I got to primary school. I didn't know that I spoke to languages. And the teacher was introducing us to speaking Irish as if that was new for us all and the teacher said a few words I said No. You won't have understood what I've said but I'm going to teach her how to speak Irish and I felt like something was wrong because I understood perfectly what she just said because I two tongues in my mouth without realizing and what that strikes me I mean it. I continually refer back to the realization for me that my first instinct instinct was to think. Oh I'm wrong because the teacher said that I trusted authority. Good Catholic and so. I've been spending my life trying to become a bad catholic because I had an innate trust of authority and when the teacher said no you won't understand what I've just said I thought okay that has to be true and what that teaches teaches music that it's important to listen to the tuition because we might know more than we know we know. And that's I think that's a deep trusting relationship we have to have ourselves and the second thing that strikes me in terms of the spiritual backbone of my childhood is the stations of the cross. I in Catholic under Episcopal Churches. You'll find fourteen images from the time that Jesus of Nazareth was condemned to death to the time that his corpses laid in the Tomb and they're just fourteen stopping points and for ten years. I did the stations every day and what I like about. The stations of the cross is that they don't say oh but then there's the fifteenth eighteenth one where it's all lovely fantastic in the traditional designing. There isn't a fifteenth station. The idea is to find hope in the practice of what what seemed seemed to be the worst and it is the worst. There's no pretense that abduction torture and murder anything other than abduction torture and murder. However there is is the understanding that within us we can discover some kind of hope the hope of protests the hope of truth telling the hope of generosity the hope of gesture even in those displaces all that really takes me to a place? I I think we should just start. which is there's this idea out there? Now we're rediscovering the power of story. Let's just say that like all over the place in every discipline and that's wonderful because we forgotten the power of story but then there's a way that that gets trivialized right and like you know we're in podcasting storytelling storytelling storytelling but we are a mantis. Simplify storytelling to. I wanted to read something you wrote. These are the kinds of things we need for the tired spaces of our world. This is the way we need to move forward in a world that is so interested in being comforted by the damp blanket of bad stories. We need stories of belonging that move towards each other not from each other ways of being human that opened up the possibilities of being alive together ways of navigating our differences that deepen our curiosity that deepen our friendship that deepened our capacity to disagree. That deepened the argument of being alive. This is what we need. This is what will save us. This is the work of piece. This is the work of imagination. You said there's an Irish phrase valuing story what if that in our she'd say mass scale and that means to put respect suspect value substance and so it's a deeply engaged project and sort of find a way to put mass us. The respect on the story requires a really muscular engagement with it. I've loved the radio for all of my life. I've Oh was had the radio on and one of the things you notice these days people phoning something has happened and they'll say let's listen to our audience and and sometimes the way it's set up you can go. I could write the script right now. This is utterly predictable and it's painful because people aren't speaking about trivial things. People are speaking about things that matter and things that would hurt people and cause an increase in threat for particular individuals and yet we treated with such lazy language. That's the dumb blanket of storyteller. As far as I'm concerned story stories without the rigor that totally and I like the idea of how can we be surprised There's a native American writer end. Scott Mama Day yes WHO talks about storytelling in his own tradition about sitting with an elder and having the elder Gift Gift You with the elder stories and Mama Day says it so? It's a way of being called into through this person's presence and gifted a story and I think I feel the older I grow the more clearly. I understand that. That's what we are is our stories. That's what we are. That's all we are we the eraser stories. We erase our existence and learning how to tell the stories learning how to understand. Stand the stories what they teach us and what they can teach other people is really the essence of our existence. Here I suspect and Jen Bailey. Who you all met? Last night revved Jan.. She has reminded me that in the Greek in the biblical Greek. The word apocalypse actually means uncovering and I feel like that's a good way to talk about the moment ran the uncovering of and I think Maryland. That's something you really do in your work and you told me about this when we met before for this project. You've been doing for a church in Connecticut and honestly feel like this could be a template for all kinds of our organizations organizations with this church has done with you which is going back and telling the story. They haven't told and I mean I want to let you talk about it but I just you know just to read. It starts in Lyme Connecticut in Sixteen Sixty six the meeting house These are sounds. The landscape has never heard a strange human language axes and saws iron hammers pounding home. Almira nails the trump boots the cough of musket fire and then on and on like this new experience for the land and it goes is through. You know other events in the story of the Church. I'm sure the church the Church didn't tell until now the thing is they wanna tell well it now. So lyme Connecticut Seventeen twenty nine to members in good standing of the church record and sign a business transaction in consideration of the some of twenty five pounds. One mulatto girl of three years old called Jane to have an hold possess and enjoy as his own own proper estate forever during her natural life to members who have seats in the front pews. And then you've got a copy of the deed of sale So this church has actually gone back and told more of his story very unusual. I think To have the courage required to tell those stories are to find what they teach. This is a church which was founded. Did they just celebrated their three hundred and fiftieth anniversary. And the first pastor kept slaves in the Parsonage wjr in the attic of the parsonage. I don't think anybody in the church are they hadn't thought about it but I don't think they knew their own history. Read the fact that many members of the church live in a very upscale community which was once set aside for native Americans it was intended to be their place. Nobody remembers that now Now it's where you live if you have a lot of money And it was a painful responsibility handed to me you to present these people with their own histories. I loved working on this project but it was also full of shocks oxen disappointments. I wanted to believe better of humanity was disappointed. So what happens when a community because I really do like I read this story and I think this could be template you know. This is also a moment when we're talking about how do we reckon and nobody knows how to begin or to go with that far back. Or how far back do you go. Oh and what was the experience for them to have this uncovered into reclaim it as who they are and where they came from. I only know from few encounters with members members of the congregation who thanked me for giving them their story. I think it also helped them to be able to see their story as told through the eyes of someone who didn't inherit their history there. These are people who've lived in the same community unity many of them for three hundred years living in the same house their great great great grandfather built and to to have an outsider. Coming point out to them. The discrepancies between what they believe now and what was believed in the past was probably difficult for them but it also I think was a way for them to appreciate God where they came from where they are now on the one hand you can be proud of seeing that your ancestors turned turned away from a horribly inhumane institution but on the other hand you have to deal with the fact that they were in the middle of it and it took three two hundred years. Do you want to say anything. But I'm thinking about how sometimes when we look at our history. We have a visceral responsive. Shame and it's no wonder we don't want to look at it. And Shame begins in the body I think shames first language is the body and then we put language around it and then we put protections around and then curricula and policy and elections around shame but it begins in the individual language of the body. And it's understandable. That is so seizing of us. It was like being arrested by something. I mean it it does stop you and I was trying to think for a long-term what's a counterpoint. Not a challenge. But what's a counterpoint to shame and I think it's trust or one one of the things I mean. These aren't exact sciences. But there is a phrase in Irish. If you you want to say trust you and in Irish we have an understanding that way by using one word when you can use ten. So so it's a long phrase served to speak about trust and phrases and marcus avert law and the Hudson. You were the place where I stand on the day when my feet are sore and when we can look to our shameful pasts and in national context we all shameful past the Irish. We love to talk about coach Geno. Aren't we all against the British however then when you look at the history of the Irish in Jamaica and Australia we went there and did everything that was done to us and so we did learn very very well from our hunger that drove us from the land and so I find that there is shame to be discovered in so many narratives and that some way a of thinking to whom can I turn to find my place of standing when it feels like the world is on fire and for me. That's the invitation of painful painful history this to do that together and that is always difficult but it is always true anything else fails. I'm Krista Tippett and this is being today with theologian poet and Social Healer Padre Goto and storytelling poet and can template if Maryland Nelson. And you've also talked about this Maryland. That poetry is also about silence you said poetry emerges from silence and something enlightened feels to me about this this church this institution asking poet to look at their history and to tell it in words that leave room for silence for what can't be said one of the poems in In my little book about this church history is about a time when the church meeting house was was burned down and in the poem. It's my imagination. I hope this happened but in the poem Tom Everybody in town. The free people the enslaved people everybody is rushing around with a bucket brigade trying to put the fire fire out and I couple of lines in which people look into each other's eyes and see their own fear in each other's eyes and I think that experience of sharing a crisis beyond expression beyond words of looking at each other and seeing one's own MHM experience is probably I hope it's true anyway and Padraig. You've been writing weirdness. Daily Prayer Book for Corey Miller Community. Just want to talk a little bit about prayer as a form of words I mean I. I don't really retailing beautifully. wrote prayer can be a rhythm that helps us make sense in times of senselessness not offering solutions but but speaking to and from the mystery of humanity prayer is rhythm prayer is comfort prayer is disappointment. Prayer is words and shape and art around desperation and delight and disappointment and desire. I clearly was in an alliterative mood. Rose goes back. I mean prayer in English comes from French. Play to ask and I think sometimes if it's understood that prayer is only we held by those who have a devotion to religious understanding we have limited prayer. That's that's a limited imagination about what prayer is because we all ask and we all come in contact with deep desire desire and that in itself as an experience of prayer and I think one of the benefits of being part of a tradition where you can find form them to put your prayer is that you can feel like there's a container for the things that it can be difficult to contain so that book bills on a form of prayer that you find into the English language liturgical traditions. The form is called collect which is just the same word is collected just a a posture. More prayerful way to say. Collect the ideas that you're collecting collecting your intention and arranging. You're only in this form. You're only allowed to ask one thing. And I think the form of collect is in the English language written tradition as Robusta sonnet it. Because it's really clear there's five steps to it. They don't have to follow a particular pentameter or any kind of rhythm but they follow progress. You name the God that you're speaking to. And then you say something more a little bit like some character development and then you name your request and then you give a reason for your request which falls back into the top and then you finish with a little bird of praise and so it makes you ask. What do I want one thing? And how do I wrap that into a form that holds it. That revealed something back to me rather than just a list of demands. I mean not that you have to pray like this. I mean half the time prayers. Oh God ought or something without any words the deep groans of our experience. And that's why I like the stations of the cross too. Because you move with your body around and there's a little repeated piece that you can say if you want you don't have to but there is farm to it and I think in poetry form can hold the things in us that feel formless and we can find space within form that if we were to just say that we exist in space ministers. We would never find that space and I think we we have ways in which we seek to name the things about us. I remember once being part of a group and somebody we were speaking about prayer and somebody says am. I'm my prayers. I'd like to laugh again. Such vulnerability to say that to a room full of people. I'd like to laugh again. I like like to laugh five words. But there's an entire life wrapped into those small five words and the compassion and kindness in that room. That was prayer. And if we can treated as if God's listening well then we might find a way within which God is listening because what we're creating in the room and that goes beyond how. Oh you articulated devotion that goes into the ways in which you say well even if there isn't a god well I'll make one up in order to respond kindly into this room in a way that it works well and that's what I think. Prayer can be it can be a deeply dignified anything for the desires that we wished to name and Maryland. You've taught contemplative practice to college students. And when you and I spoke before you talked about. We're doing contempt practice with west point cadets and you often write about Abba Yaacob who I think. Did you go to college with him is that you went to college with him and then he grew up to be Ayako I just wonder what are you thinking about with this idea of prayer words and prayer I think in in my intuition prayer is less speaking than it is listening and I feel that My deepest experiences of prayer have been experiences of shutting up and listening a friend of mine. Who is minister was at a at a retreat? Once on hey set. In the whole time during during the retreat they would talk and then they would go to their rooms and and pray and he was always talking to God and at one in point during his long talks to God he heard a voice say shut up and and let me love you and that for me is what it is to be quiet enough off to feel held to feel the embrace of the divine to realize that I I am a part of something vaster than vast and to feel that to recognize is that to feel thankful for it and to hope that by opening myself to that awareness that I am allowing doing some of that to come through me. I remember once to during meditation. I had the image of being in a dark universe in which the only light was coming through people who allowed themselves post to be open to the divine. We are the way light whose poem that Kate Ryan's Palm. Yeah we are the way light enters the universe we are the way liked enters the universe and when we allow the love of the divine to enter US and come through us we are offering something not only to ourselves not only the answer to our own little prayers. But also we are lighting the way after a short break more more with Marilyn Nelson and Padre Touma and. I'm thrilled to say that Padraig is also the host of a new podcast. Just launched from on being studios poetry unbound. Is your new ritual anchor your weeks Mondays and Fridays with short yet unhurried contemporary of immersion in a single poem. And here's a preview from the coming season. My name is Padre Gautama. I'm a poetry Ireland and I think that poetry offers the word something something. That's small enough to carry close to your heart and big enough to carry all the ordinary things that can be encompassed in any one day Praise the rain Joy Harjo Praise the rain. The seagull dive the Carl of plants. The Raven Talk Praise the hurt the House slack. The stand of trees the dignity. Praise the dark dark the moon cradle the sky fall. The bear sleet praise. The missed the warrior name the arth eclipse the fired leap. Praise the backwards upward sky. The baby cry the spirit food. Praise craze canoe. The fish rush the whole for frog. The upside down praise the day the Cloud Cup the mind and flat forget it all praise crazy praise. God praise the path on which were led praised the roads on earth and water praised the eater and the eaten praise beginnings praise the end praised the song and praised the singer. Praise the rain. It brings more rain. Praise the rain it brings more rain So one of the things that I feel like this point does is it feels like a contemporary response response to roomies beautiful poem. Guesthouse Romi has this gorgeous poem that says this being human is a guest house every morning and you arrival and he goes on to describe that arriving arriving at the door perhaps a seemingly on welcome visitor joy at depression and meanness an awareness crowd of sorrows the dark the ashamed the malice and roomy suggests that you should meet them all at the door laughing. I mean it's a very joyous poem in the middle of knowing lots of the dynamics of being human and I feel like joy. A heartless poem does something similar but actually. She doesn't tell you how to be. She doesn't say what your mood should be. She says praise. She doesn't say be happy she. It doesn't say smile. She doesn't say embraced all of these things. She simply says. Praise praised this praise. That praise them all. She gathers them all into kind of a whirlwind Roland of belonging a whirlwind of being human. And I think it's a very comforting because this isn't saying this is the way it should be. You can read this poem on a terrible day go joy Harjo told me to praise crazy. Praise sat and that's as much as I can manage today and I think it brings being yourself and being yourself herself in the midst of the changing dynamics of day or a month or a year or season it brings all of that into some kind of embrace of belong in the middle of. She poses these extraordinary questions. Because the point I think when you hear it I can just think it's all about nature lovely and everything is recognizable but when you begin to make inquiries of the poem you suddenly find all of these restless things at the heart of the point things that can't be contained. And why is the house. Slack for instance or why does the Raven Talk. And what does the Ravens say. Why do we care about the warriors name? You also wonder what it doesn't mean that the sky is backwards and awkward when you find all of these mysteries. These slightly restless sometimes perhaps even mildly absolutely menacing factors at the heart of this. It can make you pay attention to the dynamics of these similar things in your own life and think they have a place. Praise praise praise the rain. Now to find yourself being drawn back into the natural world in the middle of all these things that are utterly uncontainable Praise the rain by joy. Harjo praise the rain. The seagull dive the curl of plant. The Raven Talk Walk. Praise the hurt. The house lack the stand of trees. The dignity praise the dark the moon moon cradle. The Sky Fall the bear sleep praised the missed the warrior name. The earth eclipse the fired leap praised the backwards awkward sky. The baby cry the spirit. Food Praise Canoe. Oh the fish rush the whole for frog. The upside down praised the day the cloud cop the mind wind flat. Forget it all praise crazy. 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Sign up at Templeton Dot Org forward slash possibilities and I'm Krista Tippett and this is on being today with Marilyn Nelson John and Padres Automa- Maryland is a poet and contemporary live and the daughter of one of the last class of Tuskegee airmen. She excavates stories that that would rather stay hidden yet. Lead us into new life Padraig is at theologian and poet and has been a leader of cornmeal. A singular community in Northern Ireland's orlands process of moving beyond violence. We spoke at the two thousand eighteen on being gathering. Let's talk among ourselves for twenty minutes so I think we're going to start over on this side of the room and we'll move around a bit. I think you project you mentioned the the stations of the cross and shame in two distinct context in the conversation For me growing up stations of the cross in shame were intricately connected so when you mentioned the station of the Cross is an act of protest. I wanted to hear more about that. And specifically how you came to approach the the stations of across as an actor protests and understanding it that way without also standing there in a place of shame that makes sense and and so there's a word in Irish skull shelter and that word can also be translated as shadow and so I think there's great wisdom system in that in that when we look at any practice like the stations of the Cross for me. I found great shelters but I know that it is not sufficient for all and for very good reason because things have been used as weapons of torture against people I dragged myself around the stations of the Cross. I was part of a charismatic prayer group. And you're always praying for each other and like Marlon was saying this of words in those context and one time into a small sacred silent moment. The idea correct me. I was nineteen. You should start to do the stations of the Cross and so I did I just thoughtful okay and I did them everyday then for the next ten years. And I was closeted closeted full of shame at that stage being put through exorcisms and subsequently repair to therapy for being gay and these were hellish experiences. -periences and in seeing a character of Jesus of Nazareth who at the hands of Roman empire was out on the edges. The empire being am tortured because of a possibility is speaking about love and imaginative way. I began to imagine for a small. The second that that kind of dignity might be available to me. The stations of the cross saved me so for me. I suppose I landed into into my story but I believe you. That 'em what what for me has been a shelter for many others as being shadow. Good morning beautiful people so poetry can also be very heady. We were talking about. How as people who use words we also also know their limitations? And so what I'm seeking is really your thoughts if you have any around embodied prayer. I'm reminded minded of the Benedictine nuns who who said that. It takes our soul time to arrive whenever we travel somewhere. And so that what helps. Sutoro arrive is to do an embody prayer. And so I just wanted to know if you had thoughts around what that meant for you. Do you ever have movement when you're trying to write something. Does movement help you get stucked so things along those lines is trying to pick your brain little. I have a t shirt that says whiskey and Yoga on and I'm very faithful with one of those breath and I so I did gymnastics since I was a child and so I have a very very flexible back and in when I do go to yoga. which isn't often enough? Despite the fact that I can do a background really easily I have to take a breath before I do some of these postures because I know that I might just start to cry when you open up the body opened up the heart some of those heart opening poses they are vulnerable. And it's not because of an incapacity for the physical body to do that it's because it the body goes deeper into its own knowing and I think yoga or any of these embodiments that you're speaking about calls us to pay attention to the way within which there's something deeper than the narration that we're giving to what's going on. There's a deeper literature of the body. That is telling us back to ourselves. Dell's if we'll listen and it's painful to do so sometimes and I think that is a really wise thing to do. I mean I think the liturgical chargeable traditions across so many of those religions do that by kneeling or standing. While that can seem suffocating. It is also a way to try to respond with the the body that it isn't just only standing or sitting. It is the fact that you're moving them. I've seen some really extraordinary poetry recited through sign and I love that as a physical embodiment of poetry where you can see the rhyme and the rhythm and the alliteration of of the body in front of you and whether or not you can speak sign am nonetheless. You're brought into that and so I think that's another way. Within which embodied prayer in poetry can help each other. I speak very bad sign language and so sometimes I do. If I'm writing poem. Start to sign it out because it helps me to figure out. Where is this coming from? Because it's not coming from me. The poem is always coming through you. We hope and so sometimes by messing around with other languages especially ones. You don't speak well and especially embodied experiences like what you're speaking of you can discover the way within which something deeper is doing his own work. This makes me think he could for a couple of things. One is experiences. I've had of practicing walking meditation nation. Take Not Hun teaches walking meditation in which with every step. You plant love into the planet and I I've done these meditations with groupes of contemporary writers and have found it a very beautiful experienced planting love consciously being with the soles of your feet consciously making the soles of your feet do something more than just carry you someplace and there was some other point I was going. I guess a walking labyrinth is another way of I think giving up the urge to control and just being in the body and letting the body be be the prayer and then since Krista mentioned my friend Yaacob he does things I guess he would call the meditations nations in which he takes people on Hikes and you're just sort of following him and his career across fields and walking through. Do we up to your chest and you're walking around after in thinking what is he doing does he have an idea is. Is there a plan. No in the point of it is just. You're following. You're just kind of with him. And he's doing a completely random march through the wilderness. And he's he. He's mentioned several times to me that he finds it amusing using follow. Thanks I just wanted to thank you for what you're doing here. You've both talked about how poetry creates space ace within forms so I wonder how you're contemporary of practice and your poetry create a space for you as a way of being in the world as being awaken the world and for your activism in the World Maryland. Stow that one Let's see I of my first thought. Is the the safe Created by form. If you choose to write inform the form gives you a kind kind of safe-space you can reach out from behind the form and say something really hot and then pull back and MM-HMM I have a long poem about the lynching of Emmett till which is written in a in a very tight form. I don't think I could have written about this. objectify hadn't written about it in a form that offered me a kind of of protection. We see what were your bureau question had a lot of different. Your your your can template of practice how that works with your writing and with your life. I I'm not sure because so I don't know whether I can separated from WHO I am. It's it's just essential and I find that learning how to be quiet. It living in silence becomes a way of opening the door. Four to something beyond me. I feel sincerely when I'm writing that I'm connecting with something beyond me. I'm I'm sometimes able to write about things that I don't know things. That surprise is me and I think writing poetry offers you small versions of that experience pretty often. Oh what I didn't know. He knew that I didn't know that's where it was going. I know something. I'm opening myself myself to something larger than myself some truth that I can share that. I didn't know well if you just read these last two paragraphs from this is the introduction to the prayer book I think it is anyway from an essay called or Ramos Meeting in Latin spray prayer like poetry we like breath like our own names has a fundamental rhythm in our bodies it changes it. Adopts it varies varies from the Canon. It sings it. Swears it is syncopated. Rhythm underneath the rhythm the love underneath the love the the rhyme underneath the rhyme the name underneath the name the welcome underneath the welcome the prayer beneath the prayer so let us pick up the stones of which we stumble friends and build authors. Let's listen to the sound of breath in our bodies lettuce edis. Listen to the sounds of our voices of our own names of our own fears. Let us name the harsh light and soft darkness that surround around us. Let's claw ourselves out from the graves. We've dog let's lick the earth from our fingers. Let's look up and out and around. 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Jonathan Rowson Integrating Our Souls, Systems, and Society
"Support for on being with Krista tip it comes from the Fetzer Institute helping build the spiritual foundation for a loving world Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding principle animating force for our lives a powerful love that helps us live in sacred relationship with ourselves others and the natural world learn more by visiting Fetzer Dot Org. I agree with our guest today Jonathan Rowson that more and more people are coming out of a cultural closet we made using using the word spirituality with a new seriousness. He is an applied philosopher and a chess grandmaster who explores the influence of our inner world's on society and politics the challenge for democracy now is partly he says a challenge to change human consciousness we engage his broad spiritual lens on the great dynamics of our time from social life to the economy to the climate getting things in their fullest broadest deepest perspective is necessary to actually feel this problem you know the crisis of climate change in particular is a crisis of disconnection between the facts and the feelings we know something is true. We don't feel it. It's true we don't live as if it's true there is what you might it kind of stealth denial because if we believed it but it's not obvious from our behavior in the way we vote them what we can pain for and how we talk that we sat this is real problem and I think that is ultimately spiritual. I'm Christa tip and this is on on being Jonathan Rowson has studied the brain philosophy economics and education and he directed the Social Brain Center at the Royal Society of Arts and he's Co founder and director of Perspektiva a research organization Asian in London that examines the relationship as he says between systems souls and society one of the threads of your thought and perspective and work is the matter of we'll just using the word spiritual reasserting it and then pondering like what it means what it doesn't mean and it it makes me curious about if you can identify have roots of that longing or that perception <hes> in your earliest earliest life and perhaps in whatever you would now look back and call the religious or spiritual background of your childhood that two things come to mind the I have a particular memory of childhood in mind him but the first thing to say to contextualize that is I think sort of spiritual sensibility towards life is entirely natural. There's no need to over explain it. It's something that sort of inherent in human nature and but in so far is its distinctive for each individual. The memory that comes to mind is I'm a rough I'm roughly ten years old and made a place called Western Park and Aberdeen which is in the northeast of Scotland and I'm alone and I'm trying to figure things out but <hes> probably go to ball all it's likely to be a white ball kicking it against the fence. That's next to a play park where younger children are playing and I'm really just biting my time and I think what was going on in my life at that moment were various things and make sense of my my father became mentally ill my parents separated and as a young person I was just sort of thrown into making sense of it and in that context I suppose I felt at some level held <hes> <hes> that I was at some more fundamental level looked-after and I think it began from there that that gave rise to a kind of a willingness to introspects to reflect and those things gave rise is to a fuller spiritual life later on and were you. When did you start to play chess because it also feels like that has shaped you existential? No it has and I was five years old when I learned the moves and <hes> I played like any young schoolboy with friends at school but then around the period of time between maybe nine years old and about thirteen years old really became kind of passion and almost every waking hour that I could I was trying to figure something out on a chessboard and I think you don't need to be too much of a an armchair psychotherapist to see a connection between a young child trying to make sense of the world and seek refuge and finding some sort of order her in order in a place where one can grow somehow. This is one of the ways you've spoken about your kind of driving passion and inquiry now is this here's an observation if may have it you are focused on the societal challenge we have become accustomed to ignoring that is the inherent nature meaning and purpose of it all that we do problems we do policies. We do systems we don't we don't really even aspire to grasp of the whole predicament and you make this observation that feels so relevant me but I don't think we say this often that that one thing that's different about our crisis is that you know unlike the Cold War which which I lived through you know where it was very clear who the enemy was and what the risks were and what the stakes were part of our problem is is our inability to diagnose articulate the character of the crisis switch which I feel is that grasp of the whole predicament that you're talking about yeah. I think I think that's right. There's a there's an intelligibility conundrum the heart of our experience. It's we sort of send something that we can grasp on the one hand. The world has achieved a great deal and we've developed formidably through technology and you know there's lots of the celebrates at the same time the kind of confluence of existential threats not least ecologically but also democracy <hes> fragmenting in a certain censor weakening inequality becoming sort of out of control and then technology may be overreaching in certain ways so this sort of a range of different threats threat to our bearings of who we are and what life's about and in that context we look back toward. What do we have to hold onto? If everything is variable what are the constance and one way of looking at it Christine a few degree probably heard from people people who've spoken this way before but one way to see it is that it's it's kind of like a new axial age. It's a period of time where you know there's such upheaval in in the sort of economic and political sphere isn't that logical spheres and the axial age was this handful of centuries think second six eight V._C._e.. In which <hes> well why don't you describe how you think about that. You could describe it as as a sort of period of time around the bronze age where technology developed in such a way places were changing because the Ra- marketplace's emerging and technologies would make tribal warfare all the more deadly race not time like violence and in that sort of space of massive upheaval in the sort of external the world people were obliged sort of sort of almost recalibrate their sense of who they were there was shifting consciousness at a global level while the Hebrew profits and the an Confucius this is the lifetime and also socrates and and and the Buddha certainly what is so astonishing also about that period of time because that was also global is that those were disconnected cultures and and <hes> countries yes yeah and yet it does feel like something happened at a consciousness level because these ferry kindred and deep things happened around the same time in my sense and I think I'm not alone is that something similar is going on at the moment. People people are are are experiencing a kind of waking up and it's quite diffuse. It's often quite subtle <hes> you can't be sure if you're kidding yourself if it's happening but there's a feeling of planetary immune response emerging <hes> <hes> an in levels of awareness attention that may give rise to some new way of seeing the world and seeing each other. We don't quite know what it is yet but my feeling is that something is emerging about nature and yet to get there we have to sort of step off the treadmill and the kind of see meals fear around us. That's telling us live <hes> so we need to develop some kind of immunity to those those forces that are constantly telling us who we are and how we should live and who we are and how we should live <hes> sediment who we are what life is about of course these are the ancient questions that they are there questions that that have to have a place in interior life right. I mean not that that's disconnected from life in the world and in fact the point you're making set it needs to be relevant to politics society. It's a challenge the right you. I'm sure you know yourself that. Many people who are very interested in spiritual life broadly conceived the quite happy to to stay in that realm and think can speak and be in that place I and then those who are more interested in the political world likewise preferred to think in terms of questions of power and influence and so forth and there are many who recognize there is a deep connection between these worlds and broad brushstrokes here but people sort of in in their twenties and thirties when I speak of the spiritual and the political in the same sentence they don't flinch and sort of see exactly what I mean and those somewhat older want me to sort of clarify very precisely what I mean by my terms. They want that pinned down analytically so that I can grieve. There's something new say. I think this is a really intriguing idea. You know you say so. There's this analytical mode with which we do things when we're being serious and it has to do with measurement airman and precision and in its metrics are numbers and yet you say the better part of us is struggling to be heard in public life well one. There's there's there's a key source for this. <hes> mm which is in Miguel Chris work on on <hes> different forms of attention that we pay the world and before I did the spirituality project tie I <hes> or maybe alongside I didn't inquiry into this particular it cler understanding of the world. I think it's a profound viewpoint that needs to be considered. At least 'em now in as I understand it. <hes> within neuroscience there was a period of time where people felt that the brain hemispheres were very different inch and then there was a period of time where pop psychology go to hold of that and sort of ran wild with it and started saying that you're left bream is this and you're right Bama's that and most of it was bogus but what Ian did and he's become quite a good friend over the years is that he stopped asking the question of what did the different hemispheres do and instead he asked what are the alike in. What are they were if you if you think of a person you don't ask you know? What exactly are the you ask? What are they like? What was that was their character? What is their nature? It sure does it disposition and what what happens really is that the left hemisphere is typically trying to narrow things dime to a point and turn something in D.. Nature something turn it into an algorithm turn into something is like something else while the right hemisphere is more broadly vigilant trying to give contacts trying to see something more fully and more precisely in terms of what actually is and the reason this is relevant is that these two forms of attention one that sort of about focusing in narrowing down and one is kind of backing up and seeing the bigger picture this is playing out culturally and the period of time that we're in is one where that sort of narrowing focus metrics everything being over analyze people asking for evidence based policy people wanting to turn something into an algorithm so it can be put to scale right right. This state of mind is very pervasive right and what we've lost in that is the kind of broader pattern of attention. Mentioned that says hang on what we do here. What is the what is the fuller context which we're trying to make sense of things <hes> and of course <hes> that's a harder question to ask an answer because it requires soul-searching and working working together and lots of things which culturally are somewhat disempowered at the moment whereas the the motive operation that's a bit more analytical and precise and zooming in and trying to denatured things <hes> that has a certain in the mind of hegemony power moment because it's the language of Komo computation and it's the language of of big tech an artificial intelligence and so there is this I think the language of the Stock Market Right? It's like yeah exactly yeah yeah <hes> so so I think when I say the better part of struggling to be heard there. Is that one reference but I think he goes more. It goes deeper than that. It's it's really about the fact that we are creatures of habit. We're not only am creature of habit in the sense that we have follow familiar patterns but we're also habit creating creatures. We actually tried to make sort of niches for herself. Where we don't have to think too much and convenience in some ways is high that manifest and the reason that matters this is that for many things that habitual and comfortable inconvenient may not be good for us and they may not be that good for each other and for the planet and so we need to back out of that to sort of find the part of us? That's a bit more free a bit more considerate to actually look more deeply at the habits that recreating and ask if we can do better <music>. I'm Christa tip it and this is on being today with applied philosopher and Chess Grandmaster Jonathan Rowson this interesting getting juncture also where I mean even the way you just described the way we function is is based on a new insight we have into our brains work. Our bodies work how we function as creatures you know why why we became in this way so even at the same time that we can describe things about ourselves that are part of the problem. There's some power in that knowledge right of being able to see ourselves. Yeah I mean we are we are disclosing ourselves to ourselves some level and that's a combination of globalization and scientific knowledge and also maybe material afternoons having solve many for many many places of the world having solved the major problems of survival. Will you move onto questions of inferior at least you know meaning and purpose in south understanding <hes> so there is this period of time where we are doing this deep soul searching at least some some are but I wonder to be honest. <hes> there are times that fills me with hope and there are times when I'm not so sure it's going to work out that well because <hes> this is saying that <hes> enlightenment is your eagles biggest disappointment and I always find that quite useful expression. Why why do you find that you as well as the reason I say that is because I think that the the desire to know oneself desire to sort of for self understanding and it's often dribble driven not by kind of humble I'm sort of service spirit of trying to make sense of one's existence but also more more like a kind of narcissistic identity project and there's a risk that the motivation for self knowledge has to be right to yeah? I mean also this interior life and a true desire for self knowledge is unnecessary compliment to spirituality for spirituality. Not I mean because right we we talk so much about meditating but you know meditators can be the greatest of narcissists right. This is not <hes> just there's more to this. What did you say are the better part of us that is struggling to be heard in public life than you know? It's not like these spiritual practices actually guarantee enlightenment and fomenting. I what is this more and at this more is absolutely relevant to our life together that it it must play a greater role in the public room. Yes so I mean the language of spiritual sensibility helps I think but to be honest for those who find even that language problematic another we think of it as is positive and negative freedom so we've lived in a kind of liberal hegemony for a long time time where the prevailing idea was that the public realm was for questions of sort of resource allocation and the private realm was was where you figured out what was true and what was good and what was beautiful and yourself to yourself yeah. It was your business you know if you want to believe X.. Y. and said fine do do it in your own room. Yeah and it's interesting also there has also been in Madeira Nettie this idea this this kind of assumption assumption certainly intellectual circles that secularization was happening and would continue and and religion would if not disappear just become evermore consigned into the private sphere and in in some ways I mean religion I mean the way I see it as that religious institutions are in a state of great evolution and flux like every institution however as you point out what is happening instead is not what was predicted because has because spiritual inquiry and these questions simply don't go away it turns out that they are part of us and this great quote. I mean I've heard this before but I saw recorded from Julian Barnes. I don't believe in God but I miss him and that that the sacred and this long for the sacred and in fact this longing for the deep things the better part of us that this part of the human endeavor tended <hes> questioned carried forward in time and Community Rachel this is vibrant as ever before it yeah. It certainly can be an it's. It's some it's there for for people to experience an engaged with the challenges that is not perceived that way a- At least not in the context in the U._S. has little different and the secularization some way further on here and <hes> but I believe some recent survey by Pew Research That says you know ninety percent of the world will identify entities being religious by about twenty twenty thirty give or take and that's the story picking out like religion is an ongoing way far from it. It's actually it's it's the sort of secular atheist view that is somewhat irregular. I am and it's not necessarily because it's more more advanced or more sophisticated and it could be because it's it's missing something <hes> <hes> what is that God. I don't know if that's maybe going too far but <hes> I think at least we have to be allergic to the language of <hes> of religion and not you know friend called with Oldfield who speaks about the G. Balm with with regard to God but I think a culture that can't use the word God without getting the he has some serious problems like should be able to just use the language without feeling that there's a sort of threaten the room but I think the important point is what you're driving when when you say we have to be able to talk about this in the words are all inadequate and the words are are awkward and they mean different things different people but we have we have to be able to talk about this part of ourselves about what this what it means <hes>. Would've you said that to take a look at more deeply at what it means to be human when that we have to have a more fulsome understanding of the human <hes> in order to grab a with life and society in the way that we long too and that's that's what this is pointing at it is an and I think the sort of preeminence the eminence <hes> issue of our time is our only habitat is gradually being destroyed. Is Maybe the right word. It's it's it's losing its resilience. <hes> mm fundamentally ecosystems breaking dine and most of this is happening because of human behavior more precisely human behavior driven by a certain economic model now in that context for your your average individual. I'm trying to make sense of human existence visual life. The connection isn't obviously clear but I do think many are at home being aware for instance of climate change. I believe it's currently a storm on the floor in Florida as we speak <hes> and I I know that they'll be wondering what can I do. <hes> this is happening but it seems so much beyond me the gap between a single person and this massive global challenge that isn't even simply human it sort of superhuman and it's it's into the atmosphere atmosphere and so forth then questions of perspective come into play like getting things in their food is brought us in the perspective is necessary to actually feel this problem you know the the crisis of climate change in particular is as a crisis of of of this connection between the facts and the feelings. We know something that's true. We don't feel it. It's true we can't we don't live as if it's true. There is what you might call it kind of stealth denial. We speak as if we believe that but it's not obvious from our behavior and the way we vote them campaign for how we talk that that we sat this is a real problem <hes> and I think that is a ultimately spiritual one way of looking at it to give it a bit of definition is most religious traditions <hes> confront the question of death is central to the fact that your immortal being that you have to consider how you're going to live with the one precious life that you have and in the context of climate change. I think there's a very clear parallel between we are denial of her deaths. The fact that we can't really confront this fact that we're going to die and this denial of of this planetary emergency I think the two are extremely closely linked and yet figuring out in what way they're linked and high freezing up to one might help us deal with the other is I think a shared endeavor this is so interesting too because <hes> so much of the hand-wringing that happens in the states at least is about you know the fight you know like a climate change deniers which sometimes as a matter of language and you know I mean there's a whole spectrum of that but you're you're talking about people who may be using that language and and looking at the facts and yet there's a step we haven't taken what actually allow us to grapple with us. I think so I mean while I was doing the project that one of the findings that I find most fascinating it's really sort of uncanny is is what we call post traumatic growth which is basically when people have some kind of trauma. Maybe they have a cancer diagnosis or they're an accident where they just survived and they offer. There's a report of people turning their lives around living more intrinsically motivated rated life with you know relationships and experiences at their heart and trying to serve in a certain way and they're asking a why. Why did you change your life around than people say well? I I suddenly realized that might have died and neither of course is the the already knew that you know they were definitely already going to die yeah. We we should already had that moment like hang on. This is part of the curriculum already but it's like off we almost have to have that Sean and I think on many of our major problems we haven't had that show and it's part of the problem <music> after a short break more with Jonathan Rowson and you can find the show again in three of our libraries at on. 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We're exploring how he applies a broad spiritual lens to the great dynamics of our time from social life to the economy to the climate so the way you talked about the ecological challenge and the human challenge implicit and that is <hes> you have this book called spiritualize and so that's kind of you know. I don't know if you would use this language but it feels like spiritualize discussion. The are are reckoning with with the ecology and I wanted I wanted just ask you about a couple of other areas and how this lens would take them on so you know now the economy economic someplace you said maybe we can't re imagine the world without rethinking the economy and perhaps it's better not to be an economist to make that case. What is the economy anyway I frequently sunset? There is no such thing and I think a lot of us feel that way right. We should call it as far as often as possible when when someone says the economy what exactly the talking about 'em well I think it's true and I think this is no longer particularly controversial that that economic questions or two important we left economists because they're not their heart sort of technical questions of for for a kind of scientific expertise there deal deal with questions of 'em of how you make value judgments in the world and moreover economists haven't done particularly great job of keeping the world from economic crises or distributing income properly <hes> and so forth <hes> when it comes to the economy the more fundamentally. There's a lot of good new economic thinking there. I'm I'm currently a fellow at a place called the center for the understanding of Sustainable Prosperity University of sorry there at Professor Tim Him Jackson this a lead and they're trying to imagine what it would be liked to have a viable economic model that didn't assume that economic growth was the bill and endo of it that you had a way of doing the economy that was giving rise to different forms terms of human flourishing that weren't necessarily about material advancement and what's great about the way that works being done is that they're calling upon artists and philosophers and psychologists and people from various walks of life to actually help imagine what economic system would look like that spoke to human volume more broadly conceived and I think I think we look at the word itself. I believe you know ecology and economy. They have the same root of echo which I think comes down to home so there's something something about yeah. I think there's something about the idea of home at the heart of economics that we need to reclaim ownership of our home to you know I think there is a place for econometric analysis but it's not at the forefront of public life. It's it's it's once you've made a lot of difficult decisions together. Collectively about who we are and what we're living for that point we might want to figure out how are we go about. <hes> you know making the economic models work but the economic models themselves are very much a servant. They shouldn't become the master yeah. It's something that occurred to me as I was reading you in preparing for this and maybe it's connected to your to the suggestion you're making which is which goes hand-in-hand with this <hes> that we need to work with realities like death in grief and loss so is it right now right at the center especially of Western democracies as well in a an incredible amount of trauma has been kind of hiding in plain sight racial. I mean you know the history of colonialism history slavery but but beyond that <hes> you know trauma that has to do with the way we've done gender relationship the the way power has been wielded and you know maybe if I think about how you were talking about death a minute ago and how in grieving there's this moment where you feel it. You don't just no you feel it and I think that certainly this reckoning with trauma with all of our layers of traumas happening at different rates for different people but to some extent. It's being felt felt but you were saying that in a life that moment can open to transformation but I don't. I don't think you get a guarantee that it's transformation. It's it's a terrible messy painful because there's a moment where you just live with the open wound and it feels right. It feels like you will not ever get past this. Well well what I hear when you say that is I I think of ritual actually because I think that much of the purpose of ritual was kind of collective inquiry into some of these deeper in darker aspects of our nature's way of supplementing them in certain certain ways so when you have when you take communion for instance you're remembering a horrific act some level but you're not really you know viscerally remembering it but you're sort of acting something happened. Something really important happened and we're honoring that Ni- and the reason and I think of that is because in some ways liberal democracy is the sort of thinnest kind of democracy there is because the democracy being off the people for the people by the people you know a fuller conception of being together living together working together other figuring things together. It's a much it's implicitly a sort of Komo communal endeavor whereas liberal democracy pulls us in the other direction towards the individual and in theory those things are very well balanced than these sort of keep each other in check some level but I think what happened is that as our lives have become more privatized these forms of shared ritual and shared experience shared practice shared enquiry. I'm this interested inquiry not being not not having a partisan interests that you're trying to advance but I kind of passionate disinterest where you really care about what's going on but not from any particular vantage point. You want to just really understand what the good here yet under store no here. What's the common good here? How do we understand this highly? You get all the voices in the room to help us make sense of this. Those spaces are closing and what we having status I kind of competitive team sport playing out as a kind of traumatic experience in public life so I think it's something to do with the heart of democracy is an underdeveloped theory of human nature that we have to get back in touch with Eh. I'm Christa Tiffin and this is on being today with the applied philosopher Sopher and chess grandmaster Jonathan Rowson. You are a father son's yeah very much and they're pretty young. Yes one just turned three in Vishnu his name Kailash nine yeah you're very active tailed rearing years <hes> all of these ways of thinking and seeing <hes> that you live with <hes> that are very grand in some ways practical but <hes> <hes> <hes> i. I wonder I wonder for civil how you know how this changes the way you kind of move through the world but also how with living with your children you know how it works in both directions how how you take this into how you're raising them I am but also how living with them informs you know this this grappling you're doing this way. You're thinking and evolving your thoughts right so I mean the way you describe that picture. There's someone missing. This is my wife Shiva. Give a mother the children and but I mentioned that because someone joke with me when I was becoming a father for the first time they said the real real challenge for men when they become parents is not becoming a father is becoming the husband to mother and I think the joke it's actually a joke. It's a very very profound joe because your relationship with your partner channel right yeah we don't talk about we don't talk about how parenting changes the relationship and completely -pletely so so as you paint that pitcher and also I'm Shiva. My wife is Hindu so this is brought that sort of richness of the whole in India tradition into my life as well and that's also in the children's lives and I think <hes> one way to understand and this is that I often look with some envy at friends of mine who having time to go to public events in London or going on spiritual retreat for two weeks and I'm they're doing the dishes or getting the kids to bed or changing an APP or whatever ever or diapers you call it and I'm the one hand occasionally frustrations and I wouldn't want to pretend that it's all grayson dignity. You know there's quite a lot of apologizing along the way but I think what it's done for me is it does get you out of your own head to some extent you know there are these other beings the they look at you with through big is and they are one of the things they're saying to you is Daddy. Get Out of your head. You know I'm here. Look at me with me so I was joking with a friend. I'm trying to to build an organization but my three year old wants to build a train track and that's that's kind of part of my daily experience so it's grinding but it can be you know I wouldn't want to give it the wrong impression. It can be very exacting and parenting is often exhausting physically fasting physically exhausting and also the joy that comes through there's a famous line in the in the poetry of hostility Brandon the prophet about the deeper. That's <hes> Soro cars into your being more joy. It can contain pain and I sometimes think about that with children so much sorrow but the more stress the more exhaustion the more worn down you become through your children the more the moments of grace and beauty when they do something utterly delightful and leaves Take Pride and joy and you feel that all the more intensely for having gone through the military to get there well. I think I want to talk a little bit about hope. As we draw to close you also gave me this beautiful quotation of fuss of have oh which I know I heard years ago but it was good to read it again in this moment which I'm GonNa read it. Now you know hope is a state of mind not of the world it. It is an orientation of the spirit and orientation of the heart it transcends the world that is immediately experienced and is anchored somewhere beyond its horizons. Hope in this deep and powerful sense is not the same as joy that things things are going well or willingness to invest in enterprises that are obviously heading for success but rather an ability to work for something because it is good not just because it stands a chance to succeed the more propitious the situation in in which we demonstrate hope the deeper the hope is hope is definitely not the same thing as optimism it is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense regardless disavow it turns out and of course he had lived through just extraordinary complexity right and hardship as hard one words well I mean where do I start. I think with the question of hope I mean I think it's incumbent on anyone who would define their work as being in some sense about changing the world and that it can be a heuristic notion version of course but and who is trying to fashion better forms of living <hes> the need some working theory of hope and <hes> I like the definition of Roberta Unger as well which says as the hope is the visionary anticipation of direction. It's not just so much about thinking things will be better but actually sort of seeing a place as worth going to an orienting your will towards that so when I quite recently they created in your organization called Perspektiva and the purpose of the organization in some ways is to paint a vision of the future and a pathway of getting there that does and still a certain amount of hope and I think the only we were going to do that is if we get better linked together what we call system souls and society so complex systems including the economy and politics and all that the totality of her inner worlds and then how we talked to each other and how we lived together and I think if we can get better and more nimble and more generous about how we move between those worlds then the chance of creating a hope that makes sense for all of us is all the greater you <hes> we haven't spoken about chest this whole time and you are of course chess grandmaster master and that's such an interesting thing about you that you bring together and there's one place where I saw you. Drawing on a chess image soups fung. Is that hosted in Germany's that has just people say it's I mean we try to would you talk about your view. Not just the word yeah but the experience I feel like you bring together in a wonderful way with political hope is and yeah so so interestingly I'm I'm in the last few moments of finishing boot called the moves that matter and the subtitles chess grandmaster on the game of life so I've had some time to think about what this means and and one of the things I think chassis gives you is <hes> an appreciation for for looking at the whole position that that often in life we end up looking to zoom in on one particular feature of the position but just gives you the disposition to try and see as far as as possible what's going on in the state of the world is whole and the other thing that gives you is a fairly good sense of the opponents the factors always this alternative narrative this alternative story coming right back at you and the reality is no less real than yours and and and what it gives you as well as <hes> rather than thinking of these big grand schemes of of you know how to think hundred one hundred moves or one hundred years in advance your main responsibility as a chess players play the the best move in the position. That's immediately in front of you and obviously that has to be more or less visionary but still it's good and circumspect just to realize that your primary responsibility is what do you do next and Heidi do that well so as far as possible. I try and keep in mind as I go through life not to get too far ahead of the next thing and in soups Fung <hes> compulsion yeah understood as where everybody feels stock right. There's yells would move yeah so so it's fun as I understand is. It's literally compulsion to move in the reason that's relevant. Is that often you don't want to move so and most occasions in chest to have the move would be a good thing and you can make use of the opportunity but there are some situations where you can only do harm in your move and curiously the risk of being slightly political some of describe the situation in the U._k.. Leaving the European Union giving rise through situation of Luke's fun yeah you got to a moment where it feels like you have to make a move but nothing actually works right and then it gets more interesting you get things like Recipro- reciprocals fine. We're neither side can move without doing any harm and then it's all about trying to get it so that your opponent has to move instead of you and this plays in all sorts of political ways to yeah. I mean someplace you said. Political hope depends on humanity not not being ensued song and it it is it is a wonderful metaphor for where we are now will will. Will you mentioned how else seeing something makes sense. I think that's the connection I see here is that you make a move because it makes sense. You don't necessarily think it will lead to checkmate but you you have rationale an feeling that it makes sense that it matters and you and you play it and then you I hope and the same way with life you you need to do what what is in front of you. If that's washing the dishes wash the dishes but take the next step and you know you may find that what follows all the better for that if I just ask you kind of right now at this moment in your life in the lack of the world what what makes you despair and where are you finding hope. Where are you looking for? Hope what makes me despair is shrillness am and that comes from all sides of political spectrum so those who are so sure of what the problem is and it's often laced with projection the lace with not seeing complicity in certain forms of the problem <hes> whether that's attacking the current American administration or the mentoring Britain's decision to leave the E._U.. or whether it's something more proximate like complaining against all the bankers being terrible all the political party that you dislike being terrible. I find that very unhelpful. I think there is a there is a time in a place for winning your battle but but really really hope comes from a deep recognition that were in it together. You don't surrender disagreements. You don't lose your values. You don't forget who you are but you assume good faith and you try and build the world together best you can if you reach a point where it becomes clear that the people you're hoping to cooperate with or not in good faith then you can vigorously try and take a different strategy but I think the spirit rises when we prematurely help ourselves and understanding ending that is inadequate <hes> and so when when that combination of partial understanding with sort of moral certitude kicks in I feel a certain sense at the spare whereas when I feel hope is where there is a kind of discernment and a conviction conviction about what's going on but there's also an openness and kind of general spirit that defines it anything else. You'd like to say anything. The only thing that that comes to mind is that I was asked by the society foundations which sort of massive global organization to try and help them make sense of the global crisis in human rights as they saw it and in the process of doing that again realized that <hes> a lot of it comes down to our working fury of what it is to be human but I think the real challenges linking that question as a sort of living breathing unresolvable bowl perennial issue to a particular political predicament now I wrestle with that whether really this kind of conceptual work that we do <hes> can really make a difference the people who are in need eight an I I've come to the inclusion that casts comes with inclusion that actually finding the right forms of language <hes> has read effects in the world it changes conversations which changes cultures changes practices and I think the those who are charged charged with making sense of the world and feel called upon to do that should not despair that their works irrelevant. I think have come to believe that m making making the world clearer and looking at our foundations nations more fully can actually give give rise to real results for people who are suffering on a day by day basis. Is there any example that comes to mind in terms of language shift of language one that comes to mind is is <hes> climate change itself actually <hes> because I think <hes> changes such a neutral term <hes> that I think in terms of <hes> climate collapse I find it a more useful full think climate emergencies too strong. I think climate breakdown makes it signed to mechanical. I think we're looking at a systemic collapse gradually unfolding in front of us so you need to find a form of language that is heartfelt and true true to the nature of the problem but which isn't shrill and doesn't provoke a needless defensive reaction given that language is perpetuated and multiplied by million million plus times around the globe finding the right form and the right reverberation of language really makes a difference in terms of how people feel it as I said earlier the main challenge on that particular issue is learning to feel it collapsed not change because our lungs collapse financial systems collapse them we collapse and exhaustion at the end of a difficult day. I think people can relate to that so say the climate is collapsing it so much more often than decides changing. Jonathan Razan is a CO founder and director of the research institute PERSPEKTIVA based in London. He's also the former director of the Social Brain Center at the Royal Society of Arts and he has a chess grandmaster and British chess champion his books include the seven deadly chess sins and more recently spiritualize cultivating spiritual sensibility to address twenty-first-century challenges on being product is Chris Cagle Billy Percy Maya Tarot Murray Marie Sam Ballet Aaron Farrell Laurindo Tony Lou Aaron Call Soko Kristen Lynn profited dough Eddie Gonzalez Lillian Vote Lucas Johnson Damon Lee Sousa Burly Katie Gordon Zagros Siri Grassley Asleep and Nicole fin beyond being product is located on Dakota land are lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zoe Keating and the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn on and being as an independent production of the on being project. It's distributed to public radio stations by P._R.. 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The No Jumper Show Ep. 18
"Get in trouble for posting. All of his crazy mattis. Fuck kidding. Live check to check ladies and gentlemen. This is Adam twenty two and I'm here with a couple of my dearest dearest friends on my left devil himself. Well I mean I hang out with you once a weeks. Oh Yeah I guess we are pretty tight right then to my right rocking rare globe gang chief kief apparel. It'll it's girl girl girl. The CO hosts so cool that you can't even put her name in the title. That's all bad. You just chose a fucking name. The JUS- I didn't choose it. It chose me. It's like if my name was penis. Grand Mason listen to like file fucking position with Youtube to be like Yo like y'all a team on me just because my name is penis monetize because money Anita no jumper where Adam I dislike the fuck out of a nickname the smoke that black I like it. I like being high on camera cameras. We'll talk to me. I'm high as fuck how you feeling the thing that makes me feel weird. Weird is how come it D- monetize is on on no jumper channel on mine. My name is cam girl and all my videos I tat cam have Campbell and everything never had the problem but you did. Tell me this this. Is You giving me a little not. What's the office of a backhanded compliment of backhanded handed? All you so you get a one one hundred of us as we do so they're probably not paying attention to your page. I was like Ow asshole. Take one hundred setting the screen shots into the livestream horse to pay for. You've you fuck. I don't remember saying anything routine ever minds or life. Can you can you promote this on the social media that comes automated phone all right. This is what I want to say. Can I say something. Are you gonNA apologize for saying that. The camera camera ever and also I just want to say that I'm these get demonetized. Most of the time for I have no idea walk because normally when I do interview and I hope the clips which in my opinion these are are every bit as filthy as every other interview I do. They have the same odds of having inappropriate content. And maybe these are a little worse but not really no sorry we center my name war. We don't put it in the tags and stuff but I think putting in the title. DRA- gathers a lot of attention towards what's going on these whenever you do a live interview. The chances of popping up demonetized confirmed not say for advertisers are much higher because his live so they don't they don't know what the fuck you are doing or GonNa GonNa dance always takes a while for it to get reviewed and then once it gets reviewed. It's just a much higher chance when you do a live which is weird but now we're kind of married to it so I feel right about it. uh-huh Mary to the live game or married to into monetize been live. Like we've chosen to live the live life on this podcast and it's like if they're going to be monetize is every single time I goes. We're just GONNA have to deal with it. I WANNA say but listen to what we did me. Atlanta started a family friendly channel that and I not swearing and not tossing that ask succe- CETERA. So we have a house store video up. If you search Adam and Linda how store you'll find it. Where at the thirty thousand subscribers video has three hundred thousand views already? We're going to be making a lot more. This means you are trying to put a baby inside of her and Turn Your Life into a dad dad you tailored lately but You know it's all right Oh my God I could send it coming. One's a ring a wedding. The baby gotTa do a big so awkward. Because I don't like the wedding thing I'm like really it's not about you. Voice Got Ivan she does. I'm Mike more open to the kid thing than the wedding thing and she knows that this is not exactly cited about it. We've at least table. That's Baen for sure. I thought that she's GonNa make you do it if you if you give you do the baby you gotTa do it wake me nobody. Can you can make a huge anything committed to a huge video though you fucking do. You convince me the steak. That's how you convince me as you could do a video edge laws and then you could record Lord it get it get an MTV. Fuck in Shakin tomorrow. I can't believe they even try to pull the fucking Atlanta `sound Iro's off the tongue even better Ataman Lenna Alexander. I like the sound quality. Do put together as it because you just end up with Adam. Latham led him or Leam leam. I like let among the damn that sucks. 'cause like Dwight and Angela's Angela. I'm super into that. Do in your name makes everything kind of cool. Yeah but if it was like Dwight and Brad. We're going to be walking around talking about life Tam girl and Blank Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam girl that's cool if you were a blood Bam ah. We should always do that for your shows. You should put the the big red be Emoji instead of the sea. That's cool no should actually. What are we talking about here? What is okay? So we started family friendly Shannon which school everybody starts for like subscribe and and then also was gone. What is that thing that you want to the reality house? The fuck is that it's basically it's the second in season they already the one. It's called the Reality House K. C. IN JJ or Joe or KC in JC. Joe Joe Ardinger early singers kion and J. C.. I think is Joe Joe. I'm like what the fuck the arm beat fucking group the UH. I can't believe you know any any I'll see you are not culture you just assume that Casey's does Yeah first of all why did you. Why did I say Casey Joe? And why'd you sing a boy cement song because I was I can relate to all black we billboard for their live Residents residents in this. I want to just thinking about my. I can't believe that he's doing. That's so wild really. That's the song you should propose to on bended knee though doubt. So we're not. Everybody feels it so comfortable of constantly asking you. When are you going to get married? When are you gonNA have kids like it's just like nobody feels rude about? It all seems a little ru rushing to get their ass. I'm sure that they can ask you not me me but like with you the way you bringing it up over and over. It's kind of like. Wow that's like a you know. How kind of intense? I mean I don't really don't think it's intense intense. I mean the fucking beginning of I see how much it's grown and I walked in here with your boyfriend and I just kept saying that like Dallas. I was GONNA get married when you're going to put a baby I mean yeah because you guys are kind of new and it's probably are planning on doing those things but uh-huh maybe it would be Kinda funny right you just are talking about. You made a family friendly China you come back John. I know the baby and you know I'm I'm no Lennon's percentage. You probably wants to wedding too so you know. I'm just trying to help my friend. Oh plug that seem eamon. Oh Jeez yeah. She was gone for a long show. It was weird put pocket pussy thing. Wiles was not playing talking about this. I tried I tried. She's had a flashlight for something like a year. And I finally got around to smash in that the thing I put Lube on my penis and inside of the flesh and I tried to fuck it and it was too tight but this is the thing. There's a cap cap on the end. Do you have to take that cap off while you fuck it so that the air can travel like is it forming like a vacuum. I don't don't have flashlight. It was my first time doing it. I don't know if I did it right or wrong. Or not eating reconstructions. I don't know that there were. You gotta read instructions before you just put your Dick or something so goes through. And there's like a whole at the end to get whether it's like a whole with a look at the China and then on the other end there's a whole to there's another whole this is like cap that you can screw on and off. You probably have to take the cap off after you get done banging. Then you're supposed to open it up over to the fucking sink and clean it all out and everything. Everything but occurred to me that the feeling that I was getting of it being too tight maybe that was just the feeling of a or not being able to pass through S- on basically trying trying to like cram move in there and then redirect you could call a dick move. He called stick as move and I thought that was pretty hilarious. He was to move move. Yeah Shorty British Call GonNa move to right so everything mover as move around season move bitch out so yeah. I failed on my first attempt that Banging Linda the plugs flush but the the good news for the people at home that you're probably small in the mind so probably find for you and also I might have been using it the wrong. You're using it the wrong way. You should read instructions before you just put your Dick Listen. She put it on the table she put the vagina. Anyone in the one on the table options. They were just sitting there waiting for like you know. I didn't even offer the first two days. She was gone and then finally I was about to Gov all we gotta do it. No one is called a pocket Adl. What's the word that is pocket pussy a trademark flush flush last night hoops? I don't know exactly what it's called but I do know that you're supposed to name your bottle on your vagina when you do it. Lets hers names you. We literally just didn't even read the packaging for oneself back there. It was just. She took it out of the box for you and all that whole trunk trunk of them. I don't even know why. Or what's he gonNA give him out now. She could sign I. I don't know I it probably goes are banging again. The thing is like when I'm home and I'm Mike we're GONNA go asking thinking is like now. Let me let me fuck this flashlight for a while where nobody said that she was home. You should use it would try to use it but now I'm starting to think like I don't know I might want to. I'm try it again. Anyway Yeah so she was on the show. I cannot say you guys have required. I cannot say how she has done but On this show find out what the fuck it is. ooh It's like a show where you just like hanging out for X. amount of days and then there's Matt Challenges Physical some of the stuff assigns season one one like the two people who are ellum nation and they had to get into these crazy ice baths. They're putting like roaches on your face. It's like awesome. Fear factor meets with the real world. Mix with you know their vote. People off it's just like a re regular reality show type thing but it's on Youtube so they filmed all in one week. Something Damn what the front. But they haven't really see we can't talk about. The winner. Came home last night like traumatized it was that crazy. She was more traumatized amortized from like the boredom and food aid. Don't get phones on your phones away. The whole fucking time so she was able to our every night and they're feeding they're like it's just like oh here's some chick fillet and then like ten hours later. It's like we got subway like just super like all over the place. It she was like she is like you could not have handled it. I'm like what do you mean she's like. I just know you would have freaked out your way too much for you never would have been able to just like be under somebody else's control like doing arbitrary tasks that does not sound like what type of doing what the coaches on your face fucking weird thing like any to sit around and with these numbers you don't know the holiday that and when you have and you have no source of entertainment and she was saying that it's like you just end up making the most boring and fucking conversation because thing about us and also it's like you're around a bunch of people you have nothing in common with you have nothing to talk about besides the fact that you're just bored in this house and our brains have been fucked up by instagram twitter. That it's like if I'm sitting around with a stranger. Am I gonNA talk to them about their life. When I could literally look at an APP like twitter that is tailored to my interests? I've selected the news. I WANNA see from all of these outlets and all these different people. It's like you know for awhile. It's cool you can just talk to a stranger. You could definitely talk to a stranger for an hour or two but after a while. I want to see what's going on in academic shit. I'm kind of a friendly ethnic as I talk to strangers cocaine you probably talk to them all night cocaine. I'll be talking to some motherfucking random girl at a house party. And how can we talked about her being a real estate agent for like three hours for three hours while I'm sure we talked about plenty of other stuff too but it was. It started as a conversation was like. Oh your real estate agent. That's so cool. Oh my God I talked to people in like make money and work with other people. That some coke everything just seems so great hype up anything anyone is saying to you if you're on drugs and people are talking to you saw so. MTV show called the challenge which on similar to what did you watch the show. Yeah I mean on that show versus some mother so they ran out of people from those shows and they just like take like big brother and all these other shows. Yeah but in that place they seem to be really boards. Everyone starts talking up. Wow I'm scared scared about that. Nobody I mean. That's the thing about. Did you guys Watch Jersey Shore. Yeah obviously you take a bunch of people who are like thank you know reasonably good looking super into the party. Lifestyle their clubs. You've got a fucking pool on your roof. It's like their mo alcohol going to go out and get drunk every night. I'll show that almost seems like socially responsible for MTV because it's almost like you're encouraging such bad behavior that's like how do you not get sued food. When you're you're basically taken these people and putting him in a laboratory and then sending them out to the bars full of steroids and alcohol night just had the Mike I mean I think that like I dunno like that's not that's not them like setting setting it up for the Oscar for lawsuits sending these barbarians also haven't so mike ten years ago so it was like? Yeah yeah that's a different. That's fine do that show Jersey shore family reunion and I challenge. They have have commercials for what floor Obama shore like. They're just recreating that. But I mean I'm sure they signed so many fucking releases that they can't get sued and I remember. I was trying to figure out if like these shows are faking scripted. D- digging fucking research. And they're saying like they do the extensive interviews to find out like what your personality type is and they they find people that are just like a little like one they. They know that they're gonNA go fucking insane on the show so I mean it's just entertainment. Unfortunately mogul sign up for interesting. Is that now. It feels like a lot of youtube is going the game show direction. Because I don't know if you see Mr Beast he's like he's he totally has just done all these challenges and shit but now he should have done so bid the he has like a massive studio like pits of water and all kinds of ropes and crazy shit built in there so that he's basically able to like do whatever Sri like a fucking game show out at a whim any moment and when I think about it when we move out of this spot and get our next. There's going to be a bit more up in the valley a little more room. Move around and stuff matters of our new spot that we haven't even looked for. Yeah yes My goal is to really make it just as fun fun as possible. Like if you could have a little like half basketball court and like a fucking fucking working out type Eddie van factory but I think from our perspective probably having like a giant fucking trampoline thing probably doesn't make sense Scott make sense or am ready trampoline. Yeah maybe maybe we'll have a trampoline might need like a mid day like hop you know. Oh yeah a flip flops. Because I if you're ready like we're trying to get somebody ready to interview go happens. Trampoline get your blood rushing around real swing on his robe and drop into the phone. Pit Bro Sell Fine. Do fucking backflip often skate. Ramp intimate fucking. You know. I just WanNa have enough space that it could be like we're doing the interview in our own little enclosed space and then like your homeys have enough room to like hang out smoke house. Thank you AH thinking Bouncy House yes there we go. That's the waiting room. I love that when they walk. And you go the Bouncy House then. You do a backflip into the foam pit and then do a little well. What are those called like this place in some ways over the store because it's a it's more secure quiet? There's no chance that they're going to be like. Oh Pablo want us here. Like this fucking people showing up. I can't handle that one. I'm trying to do interviews and so it's kind of like this is definitely a bit of an improvement but then the no smoking being in the fact that you can hear the fucking high heels clunking around up there and Shit I love how you. That's like so irritable is have you ever heard. It's insane. I I mean I mean from time to time you probably never heard on this show but sometimes when I'm interviewing some of the fucker one pm and it's like that you really feel like they're stepping on your head for appreciate there's a moment and it'd be where it feels like this fucking shit about the fallen because whoever it is there's rock fucking highest. I was just watching this parking lot from did look at her fucking with this taw. I was like what are you doing. Ruini this is mine and I've never seen where a crazy high heels like that. Go for comfort over style. Most I I don't understand how become too can a woman do that. I mean there comes a time like I used to wear high heels law and you just kind of get used to it. I mean I guess that makes you look pretty. But don't you just look down at your foot and just think. Wow this is so fucking stupid. This is so uncomfortable so badly designed and for what to make me look taller so that dude's Will WanNa fuck me more so I can have babies babies in the mirror and just like the way she like. She looked doesn't have to be like. Oh my God fucking put at right now lease bitches wearing high heels because they WANNA get babies putting a period this conversation the same conversation like episode for a woman walking in high heels. She's just torturing herself to look good for men period really US honky around upstairs and then you we had the same same fucking conversation coming from above. I'm angry and eight when it makes me mad too because Kim. I'm going to be honest. If you you put on high heels right now and you start walking around Khan my primitive brain would think that you looked hotter than you do in regular shows any woman any woman women to fucking grandmother she puts high heels. Do you not sexual is a little bit harder to me a little bit. This is why the eight year old one. I want to be centralized. Because they're menopausal. They've gone through it all. And that's all they have left for any government to high here. Really listen to just say crazy. The only fucking defending eight-year-old under the table what I'm quitting I. This is I see I later. I just feel high heels. You probably ripped them off my fucking blow in my head torture yourself. Okay wait wait wait can I say what's the most annoying thing ever. I had to give you your name. The nails us when she's typing and it's such a satisfying and like I'm the type of Nigga like I'm retarded. I will lose lose. My sense of I would lose focus easily. Some sitting there like watching Netflix. Or whatever and it's just like this shit it's like how my women's go oh and spend four hundred dollars on their fucking nails Nata said they'd be fired. Come clean okay. Do you agree with me. That like society will never be truly equal between men and women. It's a women's stop doing stupid shit like spend four hundred dollars. I'm getting giant. Pink nails hanging up their fingers or stop wearing thousand dollar heels and I I agree. There's a a lot of stupid shit. There's a lot of guys who inject themselves full of fucking steroids for years and years. So they can be huge dare go invalid of wearing high heels. That's how stupid did ingenious. But it's not like there's that many dudes injecting tons of steroids in themselves but there are tons every woman is wearing high heels almost every woman. I really don't see how you just compared those two igloo stupid. They're really really stupid. Things that are really dumb but people just keep doing his bitches. WanNa WanNa look extra or a lot of them never even thought about it they never even got to the point of thing like wow. I'm at torturing myself every day. I don't think anybody yeah I mean like some people. The reason why they spent so much time and money on their nails. 'cause it's just another form of self expression or another way of ears honestly nail nails can even be art to some people who visit all Glenn has nails are worth art dangle from your interest something that matters to you. There's accounts of nail art accounts that have one million dollars or more because I'm looking thing and that's how many are on earth who are interested in this shit and I feel this way about a Lotta things. Do like another probably a lot of guys out there who are really into cars. And that's like your goal and even know what type of car you drive. I don't you're right to say you. You know what kind are you driving like getting one hundred dollars car. I don't even know what model it is. That's how I'm living removed. And it says like twenty amended saying. Is that having a fucking car that caused like crazy about Maya's car runs for one week out of a year and it's just that's just fucking sue the nail. It's actually not as to business L. thing this this almost nothing stupid as spending four hundred dollars to. WHO's the it'd it'd be this number? Four hundred forty. Does this go Vicki. And you're telling me I'm losing album artwork on her nails doubts crazy. Is that not crazy. Stupidest fuck this was November nails on like a couple of years ago trying to be like no. I'm sorry that was so dedicated. You'd be down. I mean it'd be cool like wow. You're that's cool that you did that for me. She went around with that every day. Wow retired retired tattoos. I was just about to say so fast. It's easy in comparison as opposed to like four hundred spent four hundred dollars on this hand tattoo that I haven't thought about sense. Four hundred dollars. Get your nails done one time. And then you're gonNA walk around and you've got break off and then you're going back to the worst hurts though too to. I know it for show her to get a good soul raking the nice women. Do this stuff. It's holding them back. Wow because nobody's going to take you serious when you have the giant fucking thing hanging off your nail. I'm sorry I don't think we're going to convince us and it's not like it's hot. Now look at him. If I looked down I mean I was getting my Dick Sucked and she had some big. Wow that's and you gotta think about. It changes her whole attitude her to be sad and they get they get they nails done it like when you have fun to look down at your hands and be like Oh and just like lifts your spirit and like sometimes you want WanNa feel cute like just how I don't know you fucking haircutters. You know what I do. Sometimes I go to Michael's I get mad legos. And then I get Mad Plato. Bush has just taken just mash on the side of my head and I was walking all day. This is my self expression played all all over my head melting down. My fucking face. Sounds like a family channel video that you're going to do next also going to be honest with you. I felt similar when no no disrespect to see but I saw becsey using a hair straightening his hair backstage before his show and I was just miners long line as soon as you karen hair straightened around. I don't know because like all those Peng's make seventy as jokes. Those punks in the seventies were walking around with their fucking. You don't uneven and shit fucking crazy but at least they did that at their house and to see them doing it everyday not ugly Lomax. It's a haircut now. Should I not get a lineup. Can't even get a haircut scam Barbara. I can't even get a haircut. Ah y'all NECAS Broken Hill. She didn't get cash. Please come on the show Rathburne Huby honoring jumper. Show guest. Yes actually I like. We've got to bring shitty boys onto blown up. I keep hearing more and more yes. Pretty Moi's shouldn't uh set up. You guys want to get onto a need to know jumper where Adam slapped slapped fuck out of a nickname. Anyone go to adult to invest those this weekend festival by dull swim. Every year performed their last year. Really adults Vince Staples. I think maybe I thought I saw not played. It was actually really good. line-ups Lib on some like hipster hipster indeed like I feel like artists who can get book for an adult Swim Festival that there's probably a pretty good chance that I'm not really all that interested. It was definitely I saw. I wanted to go looking at the lineup but it was just too much been alive us like why not in practice. 'cause I only ever heard that one twenty minute video whatever. Watch the Damn I'm just saying I I spoke with that. I've never really. I don't know how to fuck to find a the lineup. Listen anything else since you guys went to this. I was just wondering if anyone went or heard about it never heard of death clogged Jamie execs probably have death clock. I don't know but it's AH is. The is the person who was on that. One young thug song exactly also on the line. Vince tables above young next to each other. Yeah but he's above him on the day. Did this in the fourth I four. I mean I could be lying. But the order exploits. Let's hear whack from a long time ago. No it's not this is from Stanley. They probably made the lineup and all that she did. You see the fucking Vegas lineup by. Come on all over the place not as all over the place joking. How actually have one on a not Alexander Corey Larae going on after trippy read in Vegas? Did they flyer. They might have like. It was on the time he's talking about he's talking about the lineup lineup flyers different than the offset times because in practice they'll x. here our weapons fire. I'm sorry this is. It doesn't make sense unless he wanted to be lower on it because maybe WanNa earn stripes stripes all of a sudden. No that did not happen. Once you put artists on a bill. Based on their level of popular I agree. She's a great bringing fault. Yeah the Big Song of all but you should also be. If you're going to do that. Then the the the setup should reflect the fucking talking about is the actual schedule for the mortar that they played. And that's not that doesn't make sense because with that you have the third stage at ten. PM and you have warhol playing and then at the main stage at eleven PM J. Cole not nine pm you have the baby playing on the main stage and if that only makes sense because Warhol Paul is like basically accepting that time slot because he knows he has to go up against really big artists but he's GonNa hold down any listen if you're at the bottom of this shit you perform in I in earlier that's it. That's all I was saying. Usually but in practice like Meghan Italian has been late or miss the fucking like a bunch of festivals adventure this and I and they actually inundated with later rolling loud lyrical lemonade. And this one talking GonNa fucking like two PM. And she even uh-huh her book for Certain Times. which I mean? That's the thing is that they are so far out in three stages and the third stage could have the stallion headlining that stage age but that lasts six PM. But it's like okay. She's a huge artist now but she fucking headlines The smallest stage and then maybe at the same time that she's playing on that stage you have I'm GONNA use. We're all in for some reason. And he's like playing on the middle stage and it makes sense because their objective at all times always begins the crowd. Southside Eric. Andre live like it's the Air Andrea show but it's a lot I've never seen so she brings in the air he makes as music didn't but this this is he'd put one experimental beat album. This eric under show live is like it's like a late night talk show but it's like a very scripted and very fucking light it's like sketches inbetween and it's like like you'll be sitting here like he'll be interviewing you like a late night show and it's fucking. I Dunno no no green fucking Google just fall out on you or like or like isn't dick out or something and then he does not no. No it's all definitely scripted off or maybe it's not maybe it's not seen it. I'm GONNA be honestly. I never watched bill in my life. Besides saying your own cable like never had like I never liked left the TV network on just playing like I haven't I don't have cable from like the age age of eighteen now I have like that flicks and shit but we don't have cable cable teenager no how to. How do you watch the only thing I even unless you have cable? I've never came to last hole but there was like one year red. Lived with my ex girlfriend and we had cable and I would go on the H.. One and watch rock of love great show and I would watch project runway. Why she was she she was into it? He knows my Shit Shahs of sunset that shows it was it was like a reality show but it was about like these like Rachel. Rachel Armenian like family. That I like is from West. Hollywood there was just fucking funniest foot. Vander pub rules. Also the lease of Andrew Trump is heard fuck. She's some rich white lady rich of housewives of Orange County when her husband inch. Her husband is like what's that Nigga owns virgin records in fucking Shit Branson. I think I don't know they're both really. It is rich end up in a conversation where I just feel like. I'm not even of this planet because I just don't know about so many things in a row that I'm just like you about project one way I feel like damn how Adiponectin he's No. He's just no America's model was great during my time period of watching it. I you torch as well so watch every reality show those on TV. I had nothing else to do about a Disney plus they try watching watching it. I'm not I'm not. I mean they gave me a free one year with Bryson fries. Implants people want the Simpsons Simpson's Sudan zone. I WANNA watch brink. Oh my God was Simpson's a big deal. Great Movie Simpson's what was Simpson's is like for Disney functions. Tuck Simpson's guy best show ever. I'm surrounded by UNCULTURED swine older. So that's why you like those before his mommy I feel old. You're just as old as me. She told me that today. She's like you're almost thirty five years old. You guys are probably five years. Twenty five. Live your twenty-eight who went to College London Twentieth Twenty College at the same time same school and they know we are friends and so this drunk student number ten thousand five hundred ninety nine or ten worked with a is anonymous. Leno was a fucking bull dyke the whole time she was in school to me was. There's just like a militant lesbian militant. She says her these I didn't know her. I mean you have to think the college has book. In how many ten thousand people. The thing about many Asian students aren't fuck you and the the problem with our school is. We are very spread out like all our dorms or like take buses to go the different dorms. I went there very very so many kids coming up to me really. That's crazy. Why are you here Adam here? I mean cruises a whole Bologne that we were out there. It was weird that weird if they knew that Lin went there. Now how do I have permission to move on to a topic. That's something near and dear to my heart. I WanNa talk about It depends. It's going to be something gay about Dick's now it's obvious near. I don't even know even know about you. See the thing. Where what's his name La- Keith? Stanfield came out against the breakfast club and lipstick the Galley and the mega club and all that Shit Acuerdo from Atlanta. Y- about what he's a basically. He made a statement where he said that the breakfast club Lipstick Allie Mae Club Worldstar etc.. That they all push anti-black agenda. That's not nothing. New People have been saying that for a long time but okay well I mean he said it was a big enough thing that China gave him donkey of the day for it and then he put out like a song reacting to it and all this shit well actually. I don't know this out before. But it's been a whole big thing because Charlemagne Tracy Ram basically saying like how far are we. What are anti-black agenda? And it's I mean it's those maybe it was a good talk. Maybe maybe I mean I'm GonNa assume that he was saying that. Because like those type of alleged in like or even like you know shows like fucking love and hip hop and shit like that just kinda portray black people in a in a bad in a negative light but all the time and it's like that's like their whole platform is just like portraying black people as silly individual problem things mind those titles that he named vary in degree. I I would say that Worldstar for the most part you know what they put on their instagram. What they put on there fucking websites trash it really does depict by people as Badly Doing Bible any favors favors with the context that they're basically drawing not just for black people for hip hop? It's like Oh here. Worldstar is the number one place that you can go to sign the most egg music videos and stuff. But it's also like the number one place where you're going to see fight compilations motherfucker game shadow over a chicken wing etcetera etcetera is always the dumbest most ignorant shit shit and then it's world star hip hop. It's also the number one destination for rap content and I get that like that's why a lot of us know about world SRY world all Saris so well known is because it is the place to go see the Tomfoolery. But for him to say that about to put Worldstar and breakfast club in the same bucket to me. Seems there's a little extreme because the worst you can say about. The Breakfast Club is that they sometimes highlight negative story. Arcs and stuff like that six nine on a bunch of times so you could say okay. They look at them promoting something negative Alabama which I completely disagree with them doing six nine interview. The most obvious call on our. It's like a mega mega controversial Ashley. Mega interesting he's got important. People wanted here about an the fans WanNa hear about it more than anything else. So it's like that's the biggest no brainer and to the breakfast club in particular if you really take a look at the number of episodes that they're doing they're doing a lotta like poets actors people that are basically active. If this really not that focus too you know. Like if he were to say that about me or Vlad okay. That's fair if you want to say about academics because academics won't we'll put a video on his channel unless he knows it's going to be big enough almost always some violence some be fixed cetera Vlad his titles tend to skew pretty much towards conflict and things that could be considered you know bad delinquent behavior. We do it too. It's like there is an argument to be had there. I think that just him throwing the breakfast ragged club in with that nobody would took offensive. He said Worldstar Make Club Lives Club. The club is a fucking website back in the day a media takeout. Okay probably the shade room to that. I just said that the runway way because mega club is like the. It was like a hipster dating website from the the early two thousands so that sounds terrible girl the girl on there and dated her for a year. That's dating site laid speaking of a Dj Vlad. Are we done yet. Are we done yet. We're talking about this. I want to hear from our representative or steamed black called all right okay. Speaking of we are we talking about the fact that I never knew the key a are who know do you think do you agree with. What's the hell? No no no no. I don't agree with that as far as Putting the breakfast news club. And I don't know I mean I don't even think worldstar necessarily but this is crazy should that's going on all over. The world and by multiple different races is an all that shit like that. And it's like Oh no you kinda gotta somebody has to bring it to the forefront and have to show people and like probably it's about context when you look at World Star if you were to give you the context you read fifty fucking worldstar headlines in a row off of their website. You'll be forced to make certain conclusions about what what is considered important that they're talking about in the world and it's I think they've ever everything I think. They uncover that they cover. Everything is like just a cop out because in reality we all know that they cover a lot of dumb shit that nobody else covers like fights. Okay Nigga to make an incredible on this because I'm so obviously right every website a context that is created through the different stuff that they put on that website. ZAC Worldstar is painting an image of hip hop that is ignorant and brutal and stupid and everybody knows that he I know. I know. It's a good argument but I can say Shit I know. But that's not an argument against what he's saying about what they're doing. He didn't mention me. You know I would argue argue that we're prevent presenting vision of society that a is not nearly as fast as well star wars covering all kinds of but we don't post fucking fight clips almost ever unless there's something really funny about it We don't post you know whatever I mean. I'm just saying that when he says that make our the media takeout couch. Think about the breakfast club. They don't deserve to be in that bucket and him saying that on their youtube channel. There's so many like like you said poets. So it's fucking political activists like I've never seen their name and start talking yeah. Ti or TI. Talking about his fucking daughters Hyman or something is video is out of him saying that would come from no seeing actual visual audio gaelle lives podcast and then they delete delete it. Because I've never seen it but like I've just heard about it and nobody's actually it's like everybody knows them dead body but almost nobody's actually watched the video someone who'd never saw the dead body. I just take everybody else's blurred. It's not that you blurred. It is the fact that he did is he made a joke about like. Oh my God. The he was in about. He was in Japan while now used stolen pokey balls Asian people like he's running around around Japan throw in Japan and Korea and the whole. Oh no I just took a Zan. Thirteen Japan No I'm going to Japan Dan. I'm seeing a big DUB in Japan. Some I don't think you care I will get very upset. It's the fact that he was like in a pokemon costume in Japan Japan running through maybe Z.. Right Pokemon the Hash. Ketchum is still a pokemon even though it's not a costume all of that are being subjected to this proposed blimpy Dick's and by the way we're supposed to have the viewer. Count up so that we can see it. This is something I told you this before. And he told year this before him at least five times everything it could. We talk about this topic because I definitely want to talk about that. You don't want to transition from Lil reese too. What do we talk from From from that video settings also from glad to to the wreath latu little recent stuff. I think we should bad video settings lately and we're not sure sure what the fuck is coming from. What is bad video settings? This is not a good time because I'm Louise out the hospital hospital at the hospital. Who Shot Him? Call him out. If you know dropping a million no I don't think absolutely nobody would pay a million dollars for obviously the interviewee. Yeah but that was honestly. That was kind of disrespectful way. Glad you said that like you anxiety. Glad you're okay but nobody is paying. That is a fact but he said he wanted a million for the interview. Vlad said that nobody's going to give you one percent of that. Obvious it's true was one percent uh-huh damn ten thousand dollars. No what the fuck am I going to do that for the video. Let's say the videos out. Best case scenario area he does he do an interview with a million views. It was GONNA make like a couple of thousand dollars. Maybe we get a brand deal. Theoretically get a brand you'll put it in. She say how talk about about a story about an again shot. That's why I didn't brand negative. I'm asking we just put a brand of Italia L. E. Interview Watch TV the house commercials every day. Saying you didn't sound like you said I didn't fuck deal a deal with the brain you you are Youtube Nigga you notice that the fast here to educate you put I'm saying is that maybe you get a brand deal on the million view video. Oh and then you can make a profit off of paying him ten thousand dollars but again that is one percent of what he said. Ask him how did I told him. I would give them a fucking outs amid and give them some fake lane. You pay five hundred bucks for the haircut. Can you be like the haircut often again. Once we get down two thousand. We're talking about black ten percent of one percent of what he asked for. I mean once you get down two thousand. It's kind of like you know because I like if he really asked me for a thousand like our I. If you're going to really give me a huge shit load of used and you think that you really WanNa press me about thousand thousand bucks. Fine what do you think is the best way for him to do it. Should he make his own new to cook documentary with him. And this is the problem and this this is why really. Nobody's going to pay him for interview is he. Ain't gonNA say Shit because he's in the streets. He probably has a rough idea of who tried to shoot him against you. The cops obstinate. Who Shot Him? He probably knows so. I mean you know he was there he saw a big mystery. And there's just happened somehow. He knows shot at him but he's probably not telling the cops and if you were to go interview and if you were to get any about what happened. He's commenting on an open case and so he's not going to do that so if I get them in and do the interview. It's like best what's going to happen is I'm GONNA ask about that Shit and he's not gonNA say Shit. It's still going to be Kinda interesting. Because he's going to say a little things but it's basically going to be a waste and then we'll talk to him about other stuff and who you think would ask better questions to get more out of him. You're blood maybe. Vlad Vlad definitely doesn't care about just being homeys with them Terri. I'll give me kind of texts and stuff and like our Lord Dan Dan. I don't WanNa be best friends or anything but I think I'd probably Care Laura Chicago Day. Doc Doc Andries were ball supposed to do the interviews now at both of them goes to the army and then ended up happening but they both have independently afterwards. But that was before for your shining because like why would I go interview. Why would I do go to interview in Chicago With Adam when there's possibly op center GonNa know that I'm GONNA be they're gonna put it on live or you're gonNA fucking? I told him that I saw. I'm going to tell anybody about where it is wherever he kind of laughed at the idea of him even given a fuck it and not to mention that we had off duty cops security with us during that trip. So it's like and and when I was actually talking about the COB because okay duck and researchers was to be around and each other but when I was I was talking about to the cop I was explaining the security. And he's like you know ain't GonNa do anything right and I'm like why say that. He's because these mother fuckers lived in the same city for the past ten years. And they've been stephen forever and they'd fucking nowhere each other live and shit and they nobody you know people get shot but anyway they were shooting the other rappers and shit. And I'm like I was the press. As a cop sanded the rapids are all pussies in the nigger got shot. How many months later? No Oh yeah definitely a good point but he did. I think the the security was just making the point of leading this somebody coming here and shooting his fucking to shop. When you guys are in the back of the Tattoo Shop super-busy Fuck Nice Ariza? GAGO is pretty low. It's kind of crazy because I forget who was first on the interviews. But they were missing in their time slot and it was getting up to like the next person's time I'll fuck now we're fucked off being. Oh maybe we should push back an hour and a half in reality willing. How come how it is when you try to really go after interviews with people that are hard to get and it was wasting time? You gotta I mean is the best way. Just let's be like I'll pull up on you or is invasive or and do they really want you pulling all this shit like fucking busy you. You've got to clip on Mike or MIC. Go like this and fucking one camera. Maybe a light. If you're feeling fancy okay. We totally directed this into fucking podcasting interviewing. We'll talk. Aw Him actually shot and we don't know we don't. We have no answers so we know we know. He got the hospital and that he won't be able to get his voice back for two months so he he got. He got the stitches removed. But he won't be able to talk for a rapper to end up with that scar right here with your whole career is pretty crazy. They really somehow it had fuck that he survived. That like. I feel like if I shot anywhere around You're the baby but dude it's fucking hopped back because as a rapper to knock get your fucking voice back the do see you guys you know about him from an should west coast air like fucking crazy car accident and now his voice was like from being like popping rapper when when dre says like no one can do a better talking about him I thought he. He's fucking he was never able to really wrapping and you can go watch black his voice into you you you could only podcast that voice. I if you could still talk again almost hard to listen to win back today I was was listening to. Tk Kirkland getting interviewed by tax known and Holy Shit Tax Stone. I've forgotten reckless. He's literally just saying like I don't go anywhere. They search hurt you because I always got my thing on me like the cops weren't listening to this. Apparently they were maybe but like I just could not believe how hard tax was snitching on himself about how he was rolling around because I always knew that he always was rolling around with a gun on him in New York. I always thought he was crazy. But he's Israeli talking about it on this podcast I mean he could. He could use the same defense that like wrappers and shake us and be like Oh like you know it was I was just talking or whatever the judge that. Oh yeah well our next We'd like to present the audio of Mr Tax tone saying that he always has his gun on him everywhere he goes. If you're the judgment like I I just podcast. And like it's a stretch what you said about rappers. When it's like this exhibit? We have wind w saying that he will pull up. Shoot at your mother But we also have the best argument. Wow He's a rapper. Johnny Cash Shot Him in and Reno died in actually shoot. 'EM ARENA down there but like a podcast is pretty much just you talking about your life. Let's theatrical podcast. I've I've definitely over exaggerated some on this podcast just to make it sound a little beefier than the actual story. I'm too paranoid to do that because I'm paranoid that if I tell the same story twice Osama bin L. significantly somebody's going to cut it up and call me out and I'm just going to be really embarrassed so it's like I know that. Just do time in my lack of memory that will probably end up the happening. Is that all like retail story twice change. But I definitely don't want to like be like so. Yeah three girls and then tell the story like a month later and be like so then fuck seven girls Charles really embarrassing actually people would not be able to like Parse the context of it being like fucking years apart or whatever ever now speaking of years apart I was thinking like about this whole shit is like what the cops was so true about them being in the same city for not even them necessarily but just like those too but just like the different gangs that has been beef and for so long that video where he's GonNa kill you Joe Joe that she was in like twenty fourteen twenty thirteen negative. That's a law. Like they may be even since I was in high school for what they know. They've been beat them for a while. I really should've who knows if they had anything to do with them. I have no I don't know but I'm saying like Oh my God you know. People always say they've allowed and academics. Amir snitch pitches are feds or whatever but that'd be a good idea a youtube channel to actually really is about snitching like like he really knew who was doing everything like there's obviously people know exactly who shot it reached right shall while there definitely are people on our no so it is a fascist seventy started you channel that was like sewing Lee about actually people bro. He taps preser- whereas or something like that happen. If pe- people are thirsty for cloud that I would not be surprised if somebody to life man catch him in traffic on my God the fact that that is is GonNa be like his fucking. 'cause I like went to the gym the day after he got shot put on lorries spotify most attract traffic and US and I was listening to us on God. It says you're saying we're going to be in so much of this song if he passes but then. That's that's so not yet. It isn't having a song specifically is like basically describing how he got popped Yo yeah. Luckily he didn't die and put a song to yeah. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I wasn't that good to me. Personally I've come to expect something a allude more different from what maybe yeah you know. What Song about that Song might be Elise smart explain you? I saw off for two seconds. Maybe some news on thought it was probably recorded played. It he wasn't wasn't talking about the situation. I said okay recording. It sounded like when I was listening to wasn't really paying attention so I thought that the nigger was saying something about nick. Shot meet did. I don't know but you know who who actually did that. And who made a really good song about it. I guess why being nope Cash Bentley. That's found him. Actually he got shot. This kid Kash. He got shot on instagram. Live or stab something. Something on Instagram. Live right. He's like on the thing holding the ship. It's all bloody in in in the video. Goes off right and I was like Dan initially but it looked Kinda fake. I don't know and I saw a picture of him in the hospital the next day and I was like Oh shit that was real whatever the next wave late. This is way before it means video clip of the clip of the of him being shot on twitter. That's how sound founded so then maybe like a day or two. After he the hospital he liked posted like a trailer. snippet of the song. Big Ass fucking bandaged thing. On his day I die yet. Nick Starr was dead. I'm like but he's he's like singing it though. Like hard as fuck and I'm like. Yeah what and I feel like if I were talking about how great it was that he got Shumur outside that it will come up different than talking about it now because I'm not talking about him. Being shot was a great part he made a fire as it was like his best. Buy Favorite Song by this this guy to this day. I have never heard this person so I I'm GonNa put you on game. He's fires floods shutout cash. Mainly I really hated the rhythm and flow because I really wanted I watch a little bit of it. I watch any before we go into that can we. Could we stay on the on the the violence category. Little reese shallow. Res You GONNA be Shallow Maxwell Cream Dude Stayed Max oh cream dove. Scared Falcon died the same way as if the girl the glass broke at the at the Zoo and like the fucking simple as view like any animal really. That's how I feel cream running towards you just wild yes. He's jumped in like straight mosh pit style and his boys were right behind. It was beer beer beer thrown on. You'd think Zan it was just like didn't even think about it. See like a can being thrown in my Salt Lake saw the liquid waving and then like maybe let's be real nine out of ten wrappers in that situation Isration if they got a little maybe was worse than it. Looked like the. If you're going to be a rapper and you're going to me onstage at someone's GonNa tell us that you're gonNA have to swallow it PAS. You're GONNA have they just get mad about it. And just take it on the Chin Baas. And you're just going to have to keep moving fucking rude and disrespectful. You can or shoe or something like it's liquid. It's not the liquid into but I mean if you're throwing like a fucking rock-hard can like I don't know you don't like sway leave the tournament somebody 'cause they phone atom straight beard just something like liquid but also like if your actual cream and you don't WanNa get disrespected. Guess you're you can kinda got it. Yeah Yeah I mean. Part of the problem was that it was a pretty small venue. So it's like you know when there's one hundred people it wasn't hunt five hundred. There's like a couple of hundred people in front of you and somebody doesn't and disrespectful and you see who was who I hope you didn't like okay. Say you're replaying the Big Room at the observatory with back pat crowd from the regular. That's a couple thousand people. Yeah and somebody throws beer on you. Are you really going to jump in there and fight someone. When there's maybe actually five security guards right? said he's GonNa jump onto the Corinthian gifts on a concussion on their head with steel toed boots and and fucking split their head with the Mike. Oh God forgot about that. We bring that back up for finds me and Susan is kind of a moment that wow what a miracle kid didn't sue low pump provoke huggins kicking him in the face on that tour right. He's retarded recently paid for a donation on live with you guys with us. Yeah I was as a kid that that that loop at Seattle the best thing was that other people had blogs where they were showing is talking about it afterwards just being being like pumped soggy. He's just like displaying. The Art has got the dog. Shit Nigga for what you. Can't you bought a ticket and came to the show to do that. I mean the show's crazy because they're playing like an x song. That ski mask goes on there. Like y'all fuck with my brother Ski Mask and then that one kid was like no fall. Kim and that's that's what started all of it. I don't remember ratio's like faulk him like and I think he was trying to be funny. Like Oh my God I'm GonNa go back and watch this year. They're playing like you know I'm just realizing right. Now that is still writing down the timestamps by hand. Even though I told him he could use my the computer to crash. Can't tell him one time he's GonNa waste a fucking half hour probably to get those fucking time stance into a computer doc. Many still going to spell whoa with an H. I told him you could use the computer spellcheck for on your laptop or something and just have that Shit ready to guy. I've got some point. We really need to have Tony. Or whoever take a look at what Jerry is doing for his editing process for the videos that go on socials and stuff because this this part of me that thinks that he might be just doing something that takes an extra three hours just just because he seems like when he when we leave him to figure it out on his own he just he comes to some weird conclude comes to the worst doubts about is a efficiency investigation. But you're we love our libraries. Yeah I'm not going to go into. It could work. I mean there's one time time where I was like. Hey Yuri can you. What was it a fucking tag me in house on the socials does and he's like what socials or light? Light tags are random a random twitter. That's not even my new twitter like some random as they're just anything what socials. It's always like that with everybody is how to explain today. Explain to them. And now I feel he's this is Kinda fucked other and picking on. Daddy explained to him that when you post the instagram clip. You don't put the title of the Instagram Clip. And the description like the Youtube title and the description that that is not an acceptable instagram caption. I'm not sure why you thought it was. But that's not what I want you have you ever put. The link is like you know that that is so bad dot com. There's no Debra X. Y. Z. W. Explain why oh you dot e slash W. X. Soi capital f. I G- four nine nine just copy and paste this discography it. It's fine it's easy we love you. It's kind of like me. Screaming at the fucking streams stream labs dot com slash jumper over and over the chat. How do your song the lake in description? It says it on the screen man doesn't matter matter why one more time time he's spoiled sentence wrong and also performance. He thinks to dispel San Anton Russian. Immigrant guys leave him alone. That was the law Grub with traditional American Speller. or Oh that's exciting for spelling you correct Koreans or some Max Crema mm-hmm awesome. We're definitely record is right now. Dickhead its mother again where they think it's prerecorded the relevant right now at seven. Twenty eight Tuesday November nineteenth. Like the sentence that I thought we talked about the last week. I don't remember about twenty two channel. Why I and while I'm disappointed in him? Why were you disappointed? Guys actually know why Kodak is gone for four years federal charges but you know like specifically what what. They're saying that he did there saying that he went to a gun store. A gun war guns and put a fake social security number. The end lied and said that he had never been convicted of a felony. Or whatever. And then there's the situation had beef with another rapper. When not sure who the fuck it is right and he went to his house is on the news? Went to his house. Shot up his house and left the gun with a fucking gun bullet in the chamber and his gun that he bought at the gun store he'd left there with his fingerprints on. It voted. Okay Baluch can we be honest right now. Yes is that real. Do we really think that he was the one that actually did the shooting. That was the dumb shooter. homey that Kodak bought ought to gun for gave it to him he put on gloves because he's not stupid and then they just found Kodak sprints on them that is fair that they're definitely could definitely have been a lot more to that story that would make more sense definitely not going to tell either right you know. He's always rapid about taking his home. He's charged but I mean in general he shouldn't have been the one the body and then across the border you know he was driving. He was the driver driver us now. It was like like a Cadillac escalade. Or something they had a show I thought he I thought he was just on. The GO-TO is in your friend. Or whatever you're driving driving and then the most recent thing they got on fucked up was that the he got into a situation with a guard he was on drugs. They're not sure exactly what but he was on some sort of like phetamine or some kind of pill or something and he ended up getting into an argument with the guard. Oh he robbed the guard by the Dick and squeeze so hard that the cop had to the hospital emergency what really happened. Okay what do you. What's your correction or he? He was in a fight with another inmate and the guard was breaking it up and he hit him in the crotch no he grabbed him. The crowd wouldn't let go until they had to go to the hospital but the burden so what I was saying was not ever untrue. You're just adding the detail of him being in a fight. Actually he didn't have to say. This is inefficient. I should storytelling when you're gonNa tell me that is untrue that Mr one tiny bad off Austin attacked he did. He grabbed him by the hospital in the conduct. But you're wrong when you say also anything anything right here but you're adding detail. You can add a detail but don't story to say hey it's not true it was true you're adding which also knew it just wasn't even when important enough in my house that he was in a fight Odyssey flow. COBB you're saying for me the most is as I you're saying he grabbed onto his crotch and wouldn't like once I get and you're saying that he hit his crotch so what is not true. He's raw I I don't know how you're wrong about. Let me say it up. I don't know how he attacked officer but the way he played this story the way you painted this story was that he attacked officer out for no reason a no contact wasn't gonNA go attack them for no reason right. You sang that. I'm wrong as I tell the story. I'm not wrong and you just want to add. One detail is bad podcasting. I I want you to be better at pockets now. Wants to be cohesive and better at story telling you do a thing podcast wise where you're too argumentative about little things. That are not not even like material. I mean we could've got around but you could have so easily. Just said he was in a fight when that happened instead of saying no wrong raw because it was wrong. Okay it was never actually wrong. I wanted to add one tiny detail you cut. It just added the detail. I'm teach you how to podcast betters could tribute you to the narrative. Don't just declare that the narrative is wrong. When it's not dismissing your whole area? Sorry guess you were screaming. It's wrong no no no no no he. He understands what he did. And we're all GonNa just to address the inefficient communication drives me nuts. I WANNA know if how the guards crotches doing information. Why is Vlad interviewed the fucking guard yet? Dad would be a one million dollar interview. We don't we do need a win. Me a photo of his Dick Million Dollars for Dick Pic of the car guys. Has Anyone held onto your dick so hard the to the hospital. I wonder how do you do though. I mean I guess code probably has a really strong grip like I could easily imagine somebody wanting to grab my balls if somebody wanted to grab. My boss is always good. Well what happened can they burst. I mean I don't know I don't have balls and I don't go fucking grabbing them. That hard idea. One bursting is terrifying. To be honest. I think that happened to this Nigga. At our school we were playing basketball. He tried to dunk. He's tried dunk or some shit and he'd fucking balls or light not so hot it is boss at the rim jumps over there. I don't I don't know if birds but it definitely really fucked up. Well I I can say for sure that I do that. I want to fuck elementary school with showing his fucking bright yellow underwear because they had like a smiley face on the front his boxer shorts somewhere in like fifth graders. There's like nobody has boxer shorts. We thought it was kind of cool. And this other kid while Shabas brushes comes up from behind and gives them a fuck massive wedge tolls them picks them up off the ground round. He lost a testicle. Are you joked I know his name. I still remember his name. You the guy who lost a whole TESCO talk the only pulling up. I'm glad because beginning a lawsuit right now if it did losing a ball. I can't imagine traffic Joe McConnell margin. Yup that's me in the lunchroom giving me a Wedgie. I just can't believe it. I just lost fucking testy Mike panagoulios boy. I went up into his stomach. You lost one your nuts go over near stomach sometimes. My neck cramps didn't you. Didn't you fuck eh or your your balls up. I'm not telling the story about how I came blood for a couple of days but I've just told you I told that story probably eight times on the podcast and I just refuse to do it again. Noses smoother way of telling hitting the balls on it does not. It comes blood and I talked about this. The video of why why why. Yoga de Loses five hundred K.. In black game. That was the topic topic but I did see a video of it and like Geez. Mike only imagine Agean how he felt when I saw and didn't click on it because I was like no matter. How Jay Z reacts? I don't care I mean can't be back good. I don't really care about how I mean. Everyone's going to react the same way. Oh Mike I'm just thinking about like yoga that would suck. I wonder how much does it have. A million dollars really matters to Yoga Jay Z.. Because we know Jersey. Don't give a fuck yeah. He's probably about fifty cents. He's got plenty of half a millions just land around ready to throw in the crib. How nobody really just wants to just watch stupid? Jesse definitely could good for sure. What was that like was a celebrity celebrity like blackjack game? Or what the fuck was that. Maybe they don't know you're the only one who even saw the video so you're asking us like we fucking the next big a bit. Kylie Jenner Salts fifty one percent for cosmetics brand for six hundred million. She's the youngest get niche. She's fucking killing. She's self made but he's made she self made in the self made in the end. The there's self. Yeah I mean in the context of like I think she did it on her own and like you know. As far as I know brands inherit the family business. It's I know she. She just has rich parents who probably helped get going. I mean connection understand people whose parents work at Walgreens that is really weird for them them to even consider the idea. That Kylie is a self made billionaire. But I'm sorry it's like if we had proof that they had given her like millions of dollars. The smartest thing thing I would kind of think differently about it. I mean she was brought she was born famous and then she started a company off of her fame which he tours kirk credit that she is cultivated. Everybody else is not losers has not done anything close to what she has done. You Know Rob. Rod has all the same advantages as her all of her sisters. Have all the same advantages her. And she's the one getting Dick for Mr Astro world and getting fucking billions of dollars. I'm just saying and I know. Oh it's not fair. Because if she was born with parents who were to Walgreens than maybe best case scenario by this time she would be fucking manager at Mac and that would be equivalent of killing. I started out with with something to work with. But I'm just saying is fucking impressive in it. I don't think that anyone should on her at all. I don't think that the term self-made works for her. I think like yes she has an entrepreneurial spirit and I think she was great at entirely self-made. Thank you the ground for the guard. You had a very low head start. Jim Thought Experiment Jamesy self-made caboodle agree as parents or broke. Basically the SEAN puffy Carter Sean. puffy Carter Combs Sean. I if Sean Carter. Let's say his mom's average income his entire life was you know whatever fifty thousand dollars or less if Jay Z's mother was if his mother had you know just so happen to let let's say his mother won the lottery at one point in her life and his whole life was pretty smooth in grew up in a pretty nice area in New York and had a good amount of money. Let's say that his mom had a couple million dollars and he'd lived a relatively comfortable like could we look at what he can accomplish. Everything else is the same except I was brought up and say the self made. I'd say yes if I had a billion dollars and myself my parents had decent jobs. You know it's like am. I entirely the self-made when my parents fucking I mean to me I would definitely consider myself self-made but say my parents on average. I would say that both my parents combined during most of in my life probably made like in the ballpark one hundred thousand dollars a year. Let's say it was a million dollars a year. Am I still self-made. I think I might have been afforded the same shit that Kylie Allie was kind of A. It's not about the money amount that your parents had is the fact that like the fame. There's a fame in their whole family being in that business already. You know now I think that to some extent everybody gets help from their parents fucking raised by their parents accept the the most unlucky of us you know basically anybody who was born and had a mom or dad or both is not self made you know like I mean yes. It is like more impressive when you something. Jay Z become a billionaire and he started with Jack Shit. Yeah she started out. That's the only started out. She was never hurting for money. I get it probably already renting to her like. Oh my God Kylie. Yeah I mean you have to think that like she just has a word. Six hundred million a lot of money. I wouldn't say I'm not going to say that. But Lose Pretty Nice. She just her age and her generation is she's like at the perfect like h point of although sisters because she's what all those little girls WanNa be and look up to instagram generation. Like yes Kim is that but she's a little bit older. And so it was courtney me and the other one and we know what percentage of ownership Jeffrey Star has of his makeup brand. Because that's what I would be interested in because her taking the six hundred million in for half of it is and giving up. Ownership is interesting because it's sorta like her saying that. She thinks that this is the most that she's going to be able to grow the business on her own and that this partner is going to make it way way bigger from here I saw just one line and it was saying something thinking about like overseas. What's launch and Shit like that? So maybe this company I mean. I wish that we had better podcasting big but we need permission from major steroids to be. You should be coming in with the information about good Dak- fucking Ari by highly cosmetics. Fifteen did you get your shame pal. No but I did see the documentary and I saw. They had a billboard on Fairfax at has some hair in it should do a makeup. A star was just saying that he's doing on your new channels spending. Maybe you're getting married a A.. Lenna Belinda Palette. That makes sense to me the Lenin atom ballot. Home Guy. He throws himself into the Mega For who has ever done like no. I don't think of it as shit. You Really WanNa wear the other side sided like still good colors but funny names. Because I'm a jokester so for girls to the gays can rocket for sure. Because I feel like I have to have my fucking James Charles style like make up like cover. It'd be looking at your sexual coming for the gays. Yeah no especially. The question is like teams are saying that. He's doing a pallet. It's like you're doing a fucking palliser. Cosmetics you're joking fucking podcast with what company I don't know Revlon fucking Mac highly literally. Wow Oh see God imagine he does so many names team back Sephora. Oh that's a company. The there's a law. Imagine you walk before you see stars face plastered all of course by. Hi that make up. It's funny though. Because he has a mega round I says he is a fanatic audience. They buy whatever he's drives by but they're all dudes they don't wear makeup shake-up trolling he's going to do it. I mean it's a real thing like you can. It's a real option like I mean. Listen I don't have that. Very big percentage of like girl fans cosmetics but if it was a Lenna an atom Palette and the Leno One. I don't know 'cause it's like I don't think that like a jokey palate really really works. I think that you have to do shit that people really want to do. But it would be funny if somehow like you have the two different sides and it's sort of I mean this is not a bad idea. I'm not we're GONNA live but the interesting thing to me. Is the team start cosmetics. One because he he has no female tie in just him A. We'll see when it comes out. I don't even know like that's in the palate. What is that like? What part of your face are you putting that on whatever powder usually eye shadow palettes okay? So that's that's such a big part of what you're doing that you've got to really target at that people like like you know there's a lot of different Greens fucking like glitter like like glitter. Come Shit like that come why. I'm every all her side is like a sweet funny. Like real is of the mind is just like area like plum plum purple my characters characters that everything. No I wanted to be tough shit money. Green gun metal grey those really. Yeah Thirty Glock gunmetal Grey have that thirty clinics steno hanging out of the gun. Metal Grey aim is blood. Red Little Zan White Lou Aaron Green. Oh God how long have we Our twenty can keep going sorry about my butthole. Just kidding so you cannot tell if you we don't have like a very plausible story about your fucking asshole this by the way so yesterday by this porn star Australian strain accent now. Listen I just want to say that well number one is like Meli versus Melvin. I'm GONNA talk about. We haven't heard take dot com about things that haven't dropped yet. Trust me of. I don't know what we're going to say about an unreleased album that is basically basically just a bunch of scraps and before from before school I have something to say about. It took most played out thing in rap. And I'm sorry molly I'm sure aroused. Great the MAS play thing out is to do an album. That's like me versus the other side of me the decks decks versus Dexter Dexter. Nellie sweat versace suit funnier remember everybody in the history of Rab has done this. It's a lame it's bad it's stupid. It's not creative. House phone versus Monterey exactly tapers versus can make a great album diamante. You've you talking to house for all my God versus doing now versus Lena versus is the plug at number. Twenty two but motherfuckers won't stop doing Edgar. Meli versus Melvin. Is that people feel like they have two sides of of them. You know the really think of a more creative way to get it. Across about three sides exactly boom boom trill of commend Meli versus Melvin versus. Ym wwl MEL versus Meli versus. No I'm going to be honest with you. I been thinking about this a bit like my anticipation level for the MELI project. I will listen to it. I'll all inspect for bangers but you know it's like when expedite his last posthumous project that I listened to it a lot now my project listen to this little peep album so you can give us a perspective on how essential any of the stuff on it as well. That's what I'm concerned with. I went through it. I like the production a lot. The projection was really good and I feel like it was actually handled by people that were close to him. And like you know shit like that some of the songs you can tale. We're kind of just like rough-draft Kinda just like idea. I mean that's kind of how all posthumous albums coming apart though. So it's like you have to know what you're getting into if you're going to go listen to album Mike. That and like random random Braschi K.. Feature it was okay. Wasn't bad but one thing I noticed is not like little piece featuring the baby no looks like rich featuring rich kids. Yeah but they. They work a lot so we made the songs with actually interesting is. That's more honest. They got Tracy John's on to exactly so I was like and fucking fish. Oregon bigheaded a lot of the beads. Artificial indeed the whole thing became a couple of bees and it was like okay. Lisa got songs along with him working with people who is actually close with and fucking like you know the label of backlash from them putting out the song with ex that they're like oh so on there I think do we can actually put someone older song white Tian odor shades so low p featuring Meg Ryan. I'm so glad because if the label wasn't getting checked by the fans man on twitter that is literally what they were doing crazy and honestly featuring Zack's he was bisexual. Isn't this cool. I imagine getting you got the label emailing me saying like how great an idea. This is okay. As long as I'm bitching about labels PERP I was supposed to perp today. Yeah like two hours late so I was like I'm not doing I should I should. I'm sorry but like it's funny because you said Yeah because for us this because for me. It's like damn schedule. If people are going to respect my schedule than I don't care about what's my schedule is packed every day. I have people hitting me up every day. Like can we do an interview tomorrow. It's like you fucking idiot my my schedule for next week to it's time to to spur of the moment shit anymore not thought that I just find. It's fucking annoying fucking people do that to me but then today from these rappers though I mean I mean it's like it's not really. I suspect if they want to be two hours late. Then we're not going to do the interview and you have to reschedule about one hour late a lot of times my schedule is such that. It's like if somebody's one hour relate. It's not happening because I have another interview up. So it's like it is what it is like if people don't realize time is of the essence when you don't respect someone's time it's like I I mean it's the most publicised now. It's not really as Y- because she's managing it so it might be like she's having the conversation like oh I would like do you want to do it at five or move to another day you know. So yes smoother. What's he presented? That actually happening on the regular people fucking actually like not coming longtime insurance for the most part especially since I got her managing everybody and they're not just like hitting me have directly it's huge percentage of people to shop and also Solorio not here if I N it's like if some interesting to me late and what were you going to say about ooh Part is. They're emailing me and they're like Oh we have a cardboard cutout of perp like we interview the cardboard. You know go. We could do some viral stuff where you're interviewing the cardboard cutout and stuff and I didn't say this to them but I just wanted to be like is this is stupid. Fucking Lane Lane Bullshit. Why are you even thinking about doing something like this? I'm like I wanted to. I actually wrote this and then I deleted it I was was gonNA write. I'm sorry but that idea. Sounds like you guys thought it up. Yeah that sounds like they have like the label it just it sounds like a stupid fucking being marketing idea. That a bunch of people who are all ideas came up with so. I'm sorry that don't want to be a part. I'm I'm annoyed because I said that as a joke and I can't believe that serious cut a cardboard cutout want you to interview. I thought I was literally fucking joking. And I'm like how about this about me and him do an actual in-depth long conversation. Because that's what I do. We don't do stupid fucking. GimMe and his last album. The reason why didn't do enough was because they wanted to plant some stupid fucking paintball thing and then and we did it but it was like it was second blog. Yeah went to play paintball films. Some of it was so stupid that we just put it out. I don't think so. I think I don't remember this. But it's just the label trying to do too much like you want to do something good with me that's GonNa Support Project is do the fucking Internet surprise if they hit you being like The show where he gets his dick sucked at the different restaurants. So Oh my God Maho show out of that. That was my idea on. They hit you up and say no. You're joking right. I said it during the Royal Lao thing I was like. Oh we should fucking TV show. You're like you know. I asked him about the wrestling would. Would you have asked him about the wrestling. Yeah I wasn't thinking about it but why would you not. Yeah so you have. Anybody has got him on camera talking about it ever. So it's it just it's all just been covered in the media so much I don't know but like how did from him his his his own mouth. You could ask him but it's just like when I don't like repeating old beef that people have already talked about all this. Let's let's talk about it. I don't know if that could spark some thing else ness vaccine Hong Adam Adam care but I just like I feel like there's certain things that when people talk about them it's like they don't want to talk about it after the baby. Talk to fucking what you call touching that cover house on coming like the baby talks about killing the dude one time. I think it's kind of inappropriate is asking about it like every other time. He comes through show. He talked about Living Vlad and he talked about the whole thing. I'm breakfast will leave it at that anyway. Well that's a anybody who doesn't have a screen so I I have one that I've read just straight off a DJ gimmicks instagram about drake. Being it and fuck in the top ten on the billboard for the past decade from five hundred twenty weeks or some crazy with five nine six weeks the entire decade but he was on it for four hundred. Eighty six or some shit like that right here. And that was that wasn't even counting Sicko Mo if you you add sicko echoed that he actually spent a five hundred or nine and how many five hundred and twenty weeks in the last decade. Well he's in the top ten that drizzle decade idiot filling those last eleven weeks to be every week for less that he couldn't just now but I know right I mean he he could still finish it off. He didn't I have ten weeks left. But Oh my God I would think about other I watched a video about how tribute got taken off. A God's plan man. Oh Man I was watching that you got got by the by the RUB. No he's he's one of the best youtubers around travel or rock or watch watch. Everyone has video us. We told you this before. He's like a do. This have seen tell stories about like like significant events and hip hop how six nine stall all triple ribs girlfriend. He's really good. I'm telling you what he's doing. He's it's amazing but yet bro. I I didn't know this whole detail story about that about I. Guess the DJ plan the Song Complain a snippet of the song which should be reds tagging. The beginning at some New Year's Party Yoga Helen Mad and like basically Chevy. I tried to save. It'd be like so I didn't finish the verse in time. Like you know like some hoes like that but I didn't know that it was because of the sense that I mean that was like a nike like videos. DJ The academics. And he's looking at all. I can't speak on it and it was like just very clear that that's what actually happened in the he was Kinda trying to backtrack and then he finally admitted that happened. Okay especially not on this budget so checked out. I don't even know this has been the no show featuring Kamnegrad. I'm GonNa just sort of sits around and just you know the words ideologues explaining exactly what happened okay some Dj Club in the what. The fuck are talk. The whole fucking thing. Everybody who's been brushed over because they play the Song Club Ebb and Elvia got mad. 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RHONY: Square Pegs in a Round House
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And in the meantime, Hello, Ronnie. Hello. We are we ever, according to episode we are now recording it audio wise, but also video wise. A patriot dot com slash watch crap. Duke Rapids on demand. Most of the time, we try to livestream these and we were gonna livestream tomorrow, just have it later for y'all to catch later, but we are recording tonight because we're traveling tomorrow Irvine is very far. Yeah. So, yeah, we decided we just have like an easy morning tomorrow. So we figured let's just like the rowdy and crazy plus our late night. Recaps are always notoriously ridiculous. So real. Real housewives of New York is just so consistently delightful. I can't believe the ratings for these shows. Beverly Hills is constantly winning these housewives rating worth. Why why I mean because there's a few don't wanna diss wanna completely real housewives of Beverly Hills. You know, I love that show, but New York is really hilarious every single time. Well, the difference is that there's no real feud going on in New York, it's just sort of like the women doing crazy things. So whenever there's a feud on a show, it always drives ratings, no matter what, so what it's just what happens is what the body does. But you know what the New York is like the best thing on Bravo by far no few days. Feel a feud wind coming down coming down the Hudson. A winter feud feel a wind of you'd come down huts, and she starts singing she can start whistling, the scorpions. Me down the Hudson river, to my round where the winds of you know, blowing through through the doors. Thank you. Zack. My music. So this ladies are insane as we know and arenas, usually the one who's just talking to herself. Through the whole opening of her scenes. Yeah. She'll be walking outside wreck. He's me. Straight looking lady over there. Look, you ca- postbox during you're not talking to anybody. Like you're not supposed to know. The cameras are there. But today we opened with Sonia doing that. And it's possibly one of my favorite things that's happened. This week is getting gambling. Well, what, what advan you still? Nice look at this fan it's like a private airplane, but it's van very, very luxurious. She's the most easily abducted person on the planet. Like, don't you don't have to put it back on my head and all go? Oh, what a beautiful white vans, is, oh, and your guns or wonderful. Well, like all the guys you're where we going onto some secret how to win the jungle, we are great are those, let me get those are silk those pantyhose that you have on your face. I love so. They let let me wear them on my legs. But then the great on your face. They really take off ten years with her flower dress. I just love it. So she's getting in a fan and then Louis getting her hair on the Jack over new around how. And she's like this is nice hair lady Kathy put your name, Cathy or some, I think Mary marries. Nice. Just being out here on the deck getting my head. Well, look out there. Oh this morning. I saw an eagle on that buoy over there. Would you believe it? All of America has come to see me in my round I made it really is like a bird's nest over here. I mean do. All the other women have eagles landing do. All the other women have symbols of this great country landing on their round houses. Don't think so. And you know, egos are traditionally, bald. And I just said, no. No more. Hey bethany. Me time Bethany. Enjoy that crow. Got nego so who wants to bet that there was never an eagle on a dock? It was like blatantly duck, maybe Sparrow, and yes, Doxa's barrels, totally different. But in Lewin's highs eagles everywhere, I walk out on the streets here in rhinebeck. And it's eagles everywhere. He goes here, he goes there. I'm like, look at all the eagles. They came to see my cab Ray and everyone says those aren't eagles. Those are pigeons. And I said, well, God damn it. I've never seen so many pigeons eagles my right everyone. I can ego all just sit on a boo. Get it, everybody. Thank you. Thank you Grammercy. Thank you. All the eagles that came out here. Look, there's Don Henley. See. Eagle human. So Bethany is at a restaurant in the way, the best he's always at a restaurant, I and talking and ordering. I'm waiting for my friends, but I can order. Okay. I you know what I want this that, but you know what I want to go cream cheese? Right. Because I just got the mandate throw in London, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I just I just to my friend. She says we can order right now mushroom Cassidy about light on the cheese too much. She's on a diet or something like that. Like I dunno indoors shoes like who gets us anywhere shoes from, like, like, tiny shoes, Inc. Like, what is this? Like like you cannot go cheese. Now get into shoes. How about this? How would this tissue box? Okay. That's more comfortable, which was like. I know I'm only getting paid twenty percent lady. Okay. Okay. So then Derain does walking and talking to herself. She's the. Looking maybe I'm gonna give flowers. She's like in her own version of marvelous Mazel. I mean, I don't even I don't even watch marvelous Mazel. I watched one episode, but I imagine it's just like the commercials for sure. Yeah. I imagine like the rest of the episode the rest of the series has been just her walking around the neighborhood, being leg, high gotta get some flowers, 'cause the rabbits coming to dinner, it's like. You know, John genita- rabbit facing players piece, stinky. Every commercial of the marvelous, Mrs Maes authors. At least one shot of MRs Mazel doing this. Yeah. Which is very derivative walking around the neighborhood, just that, like her hamster chest smiling into sky either way. I think all agree that the scene felt like, Tony shalhoub was about to enter it. So tranquil. I feel like that's every terrific. I would believe Tony Salih walking into any during the. Yeah. Like every scene is like when she's moving out like he's one of the movers like a and then like he moves out with the boxes. And he comes back in, and now, he's a landlord like, well we're going to miss you around here. It's like, wow, twenty lube really doing all the roles he's like, Tony Tony, she'll leave can hack it. He's into render. Swing. Donny Salim Lebanese. Hey lab score one for the lead. But not every actor can say that. I mean especially every Lebanese actor. I mean I can't imagine if Murray Abraham Walking Dead he's seen. No, no, no Nisha loosely. Yeah. For sure. Tony, and I can also imagine Rinta in any seem that was on wings, totally totally if they did wings, again, during the could be that, like drunk lady at the airport. She could be. They got a new leaving. And then ROY is like, oh this one. And she Tony Lee is just like. Fix the plane. So now he didn't fix the plan. What he did that. Which broken clean at the people. Got to get the Antarctic. Okay. Say the brothers don't fight. You're gonna whack your browsing. Hey crystal Bernard. How about this happen? You go off in singer with Tara instead. Okay. Bankhe- faye. Bernard bills like everythi slightly annoyed. But charming and happy, go lucky crystal Bernard. Yes. Okay. So then we go. She goes in. So this is the director being like moved. And no one will see it with her. So she's just walking around her neighborhood talking to everybody. It really. So she goes into the flower, shop lading. She's like. I really come in here came in here, and she's like. That's, that's what being a person on the street is all about. Then. Because. It's like okay, so did like five thousand other people were in New York City. She's like one hundred fifty thousand people live on this block, ma'am. They are ten thousand people who live above us. And there are thirty thousand people on the subway below us. So then we go back and good. It's a meanwhile so years on this in this, like van thing, it's like a really fancy van, they she a movable office or whatever. And she's like, well, this is the opposite of the jitney like no need to wear a diet for this one. Okay. I'm going to use this toilet ads and I'm gonna use it. I'm sorry for making noise moving my mic around kiss, you know, today at a standing desk that, wow. That's very Kyle from summer house. Because I'm about to ask everybody, I know, for at least ten thousand dollars. Kyle. So let's see here. Yes. Oh, she's I know been you don't have a dog, but she is brushing her dog. So inappropriately it's like rough, it's dog abuse watching her C takes us brush, and she's like. Brushing it backwards. You know what I there's a way that, you know, I know you gotta go with the grain she's doing, and she's hitting it with the brush, and then Marley. Oh, those are big metal prongs on that brush, I haven't had time to look at Twitter, but I wanna see if people like that stocking, ma'am. Marley is like exodus. Get it. Little Bob Marley. So anyway, so, yes, so she is destroying her to hog, she's destroying her dog and the van, and she's talking about Lou and house and saying, well, I mean, nearly everything to live in this hood. I mean a lot and I mean, the new has only fifth size of what she wanted. So I can't wait to see it. Can't wait to see this shitty little round, shed. She has probably say that there's like eagles everywhere knowing the wind. I just can't help but laugh Sonia is such a snob right now, and I'm kind of loving, this is, I think my favorite. This is my favorite version of sewn. Yes, you've had this. It's like drunk sometimes, but not drunk all the time, and just like a snob like she used to be back when she first her first season. Why is delusional but still delusional delusional enough to get invested? Yeah, I think people forget that Sonia's first season, she was such a snob in a fun. Like she was so above everyone. She was like Lisa Vandrau, bump, classically, Sandra. And then she just descended into madness. And now it's like we have we finally have achieved the proper balance. And it's wonderful. Yeah, I'm loving it with that. Big old open flower on her on her chest. Yeah. Exactly. So meanwhile into the florist and she's still like, hey, lake. How we jerk search e can you sexy flows kidding penis? We could big big black bean. Is there like how about road? Yeah. Love her walking through there a. You look like shown. And of course he is. Because he's like an old gay guy with a really, really long, like crazy deadwood mustache. Yeah. And he's like, no. She's like. Steve away. So she's like, you know, one thing that I love about my new neighborhoods, everything excessively by I can walk everywhere and see something. I mean, I can't believe it. He wrote a New York City, and I finally found the neighborhood, like a go to foot Mike. I mean, have you seen every other neighborhood of New York City? It's like literally the city. New York City. Yeah. You know, I only pal ring in the morning. I feel emotional Barrett last call the hangover, okay? We all have them every morning. So she's like, then she goes seats walking just keeps going on. And I'm like, this, the whole keeps going like an garden, barefoot Contessa, but Darren diversion. Yeah. She's like. Unmoving maybe the stablishment really like supporting savage. Chiefs. Pledged gets. Geez. Oh, yeah. So. So she goes up to the guy cheese store. She goes you. Harry lucky me. He's already got the shock on out be like, please. Don't rob me a shock. By the way, this man could also be played by Tony. She'll do agree notoriously was in every store in this neighborhood. He's a bum on the sidewalk. He's at the from agir. He's at the liquor store. He's like driving the subway everywhere. It's like being John Malkovich. She's like you're very lucky is I. I'm like, what he ran. She asked what he recommends and he's like, what you like hard or soft and she's like depends only loop. We talk. We track and wings. Mazel. It's amazing. You're thirty blacks down at four blocks over and everything's easy. It's easy to get the Hannah easy to get to John. If he's he get to bergdorfs. I'm like I love that, like, bergdorfs ranks, like just as high as like close and sacred family. And, you know, John is thrilled that he beat Burg doors, because he didn't see that one. Yeah. He's like the biggest soccer the episode that John outranked Bergdorf. Yeah. It was very, very exciting when Michael Phelps like one that metal by like point. Oh, eighths of a of a second. Whoa. He did it. On you place. So then we watched Arinda to buttery cheese. I'm like, why are we watching this and why is everybody the country not watch it? Yes. Exactly. I was like, why is this scene ending I wanna see a watch try all the cheeses and then I want to join her and then talk about the cheeses with her and be like, well, isn't that twenty shillue back there? I just like thinking during the filming us 'cause she takes a little tiny ice cream spoon thing that they give ice cream and it gives her the cheese. Just imagine the like, okay. We got it in her being like I hope. Really? The Melissa not shop. We're smoked happen. But then I like guys like well, it's, it's like forty three percent whole milk and there's buttery and his aunt. It's french. It's. Repeating every I don't know if that actually happened. But in my mind had happened he just kept on saying, French shoe so excited, we'll see then he's nodding, everything really big like she does that nod where she's Notting, so big her airings hitting her in the face. You know, during during this trying to convince everybody that she's super happy and I'm waiting for this facade to drop and hurt a threat number somebody with dinner knife, because, you know, it's coming. Well, I think that is her version of happiness. I think like yeah. Being happy for render is shopping for teaser or in the day and cracking glass on the table and putting in someone's face at night day and he's going to take that away from her nominee. So then we go over to back to Bethany and walks into the restaurant Bethel's already eating. So she's ordered the food and just start eating the food waiting for tens let you know, just so Bethany like not even waiting. And it's also Beth need to go to a place called NA host. So she can order a skinny Margarita. Okay. Always there that branding is always there that you gotta keep that hustle, girl. So. I mean, Tinsley really took a page at Debbie Downer. Debbie downer. The very first classic Debbie episode has this classic moment where Rachel trashes like the results are in, like, what is she actually didn't you say the doesn't matter doesn't matter. It's gonna make her force reference. Debbie downer. The point of this Tennessee, walks in, and his like my dog has cancer. Yeah. If I. Yeah. What are you gonna have you back is great? You know, I thought maybe it's data for, you know, being greedy. Oh, wow. This cancer. Oh, he's like my baby and Bethany breath me, just like put the chip in around yet. Sorry you can see the guacamole in her mouth. And the music is like to tint. Didn't didn't. They might dog cancer. Tim, didn't like it was literally peppy music. Onto more pressing matters, which is that Sonia was yelling at her. The other night. Oh my God. That was. So this is so good. So she's like, yeah, I saw Ramona. We had grows mine. It was weird because I was just saying, like in forty three and, you know, this kid things not going to happen for me and the sooner started yelling at me. We got to this lash back of this, like Sonia. Ramon intensely all wasted it someplace, like I don't understand why she wants to be married with kid, and she thinks that's going to make her happy. Sonja fucking warm. You're Wong sooner so far wrong. Stop encouraging her. You're putting this in her head. You're like Dale putting unrealistic things in her head. She doesn't need a child. She doesn't mean a heart sped and Sunday when Sonia's way sitting yelling, she just totally changes like she looks like Barbara Streisand just beating up James, what's his face. She married guy's name, Berlin. I'm matching she hits him, but the fly-swat oh, she probably has a flyswatter in every single room and just like you being down. Great woman. Ramona's Ramona's like, but she wants she wants a baby she wants one goes but she thinks she wants one. That's what she's so fucked up. Well, at least you got a dog who doesn't have cancer. So then we cut back and Beth things like I say, you're saying she wasn't being compassionate. She goes. Yeah. She wasn't being compassionate. And you don't think you don't need a therapist. You need a friend. You don't need a therapist. Yeah. I don't even therapist actually. Yeah. Now that you said, yeah. You knew. Stop repeating me. I'm not giving good advice. Okay. I won't stop repeating you because you don't give. Hello. This is. I'm going to kill you all, but not before Zad believe girls, an ad. So then upstate Sony upon the arrives Lou Hans, roundhouse and brings her a lovely gift of quicko. And she goes, well, I know you're not drinking but I brought it for guests. I'm sorry. I don't think that's what I would have flour floral arrangements. How about some eagles food? I don't know. Just not those don't bring booze. Well, at least this time I took a mobile office. So I didn't bring you, my usual gift of a full dipy. So she's like, you know the Lou like, well, great. I can't wait for the girls to drink and have a great time drinking. So she's like, well, you know, I just hope this goes, okay this weekend because I don't want my home to be referred to as the buzzers. I wanna classy place like the eagle's nest. Listen, you know so much when I was in sag harbor was literally right on the street, right on the street. Could you believe it like there were streetwalkers? There are people in the bushes. I mean, here I've got eagles and California. Condors. He ancient Todo bird. It's back. I mean, look, right outside it's the Grand Canyon. There's Blyth Danner with some winged on. So some, yes, I do you know me Lou when I'm drinking, it's really hard on me. Because I go hard. But then when I'm not drinking. I don't drink it all. Bethany said, maybe I need to find a middle ground Mike. Hi, you understand that you're describing alcoholism, right? Lou. Does and lose like well you have my problem. I mean at first I thought maybe it's just like drinking too hard. Drinking too are drinking, you are. But then I remembered, then I realized slapping, bacon really is a dictator. I can be totally sober. I saw by cop in the mall, the other day and I kicked his bike over and hit him with the whistle. Have you seen his new bicycles? They have these days, they're just to wills on joint pod with a handlebar. It is right around. That's not the bicycle I grew up on anyway. I'm telling the whole story to eagle the other day, he loved it. So when you start talking about the interim on her career clear tonight with them and. And talking about like, the, the dog who has cancer and everything got out, you start to goes, I mean was just being such down, or she, she has us her dog has cancer, the way like I the boy friend, the dog. I mean really? Then we see another flashback to this crazy night. Like I don't understand why we're getting shorter season. They keep on flashing back these amazing things like the charity thing Ramona during and now this crazy night that they had, like, if you're not going to give it the like a full long season, then, like super size on these episodes. I'd be down with it because they are so good. So they are. So we see this flashback and so it was like drunk with, Ramona, and she's like. I married my husband because I want to be with my husband wanted to be selfish. Wanna be my husband. Come back when you're forty three with no kids. Found you're saying though, I think is trying to say is you're not supposed to just wanna husband. You're supposed to fall in love. And then want to be married to that person because he fell in love with him. But it's Sonia saying, especially how she says she's hike when I met my first husband, I wasn't just worried about having a baby. I was just looking for love my husband that ninety year old fragile billionaire fell one time into force be that was true love. This is what you need to look for. All I wanted with love and maybe access to the Morgan family crest for. That's all. And then not realizing what a hypocrites, he's being off goes. Yes, she just wants to be married and have a kid. Well, I didn't want to be married, who wants to be married. You wanna hand back. Get a handbag he wants us gets them shoes. I mean, how many women get married and have children are miserable? Ramona's like okay. Fair enough. You know, Sonya get a handbag get some shoes you got that because you've got a husband who picked you out of the hostess stand with the chip Riyan east, or whatever last time I checked. There was a store called babies R Us so Hello got three by them. So Ramona comes in and joins Bethany Tinsley at lunch. Ramona's like well Hello woke tin give you kiss birth closest well, I don't know why I wrote that down. I just like actors quick Ramona's. Like announces her kissing order. Yeah. Gonna kitschy now. Now she's gonna she narrates her whole time here today, Beth things, you want say, what you want to hear where Harry, how are you? How are you? Neutral. Pleasing and Ramona's like what did you catch? Well, what happened like our free at got used by Mark Rita, and I got watering a wine glass. So they. Okay. Trinket launch. I mean, I guess we have to go all the way up state. So I guess we gotta drink. Don't say that. Right. So she was like, okay. You got some in a city you. Okay. But what like to preface it. I'm the prefix with this, okay. The day was going to what's it called trunk house trunk house blooming blooming trunks? Whatever it's called Barbara whatever. So it's going with Barbara, and she said, you know what Ramona, or you're like a bull in China shop, and I was like, why would a bull be shopping for Trinite? This ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I hate your face. Look, we remedy, not as funny que get out of here with you with both K. Hey, sort to stop butterfinger by few inhale, Kate gooney sway. It is K. She told me, you got to work on your lip from working on me. Cliff, and I just want you to know I don't want to say something right now let's say something right now. Just doesn't go right? It's because I listen to a woman who looks like a baseball mitt. Okay. And right win Ramona announces that she doesn't wanna make Bethany, Matt. They start playing Ramona pursued music. Like. Burl is. It's. Things like let me stretch. Gotta get stretched stat ready for this bullshit. I don't know what you were a kid. Did you ever listen to Peter and the wolf remember that they? Yes. Always named their instrument totally each animals. You by the wolf. Has its own instrument Ramona pursuit except except Ann Arbor's all the animals. Eat the wolf. So. Yeah. Exactly. It's there's a Wolfer. Here's like today, that don't that, that the wolves like. Yeah. So then Ramona keeps Beth things like okay, go ahead, Ramani what? Okay. I thought I was gonna say the second the barber covered up amid drift, just remember. It's not too livery to join up k. No, you can't walk going on. I got. We got a lot of proper very busy at the good thing cake. That's put that you busy breath. Hey, like. Okay. What some Madda wasa happening on. Like I wanna go. Normal way scam scam or look great for me. So go on her mouth. Why so just feel why? Yeah. Well morning oil-and and moist three while oil you have been the that, that you're on. Okay. Someone TIMMY, attacks from the tweet secrets buffet. Do you know that you went there went there? Very proud of you would have been good come for prime minutes. That's all you went there. Senate Senate Senator selling. You could have missed the red carpet for much larger was advent to come shitty Halloween party, the wind made us all. That's all say say I love you. Toast you right now. Because we all set McKay, Mike. Bye. Bye bridie. Right. Burn so Bethany is like, all right. I give her an offer reach Beth things like I'm never gonna lie to you. Ramona? And I get it again. At hey seeming gotta gotta stand sand. I've seen anything else, I'm going to respond to that. Now you don't got to totally. You clearly understand. There's no reason to talk about it. Any wall, K dumbs can sit here. Read a book in the corner to you feel better K. Thanks. So Bethany goes on her. She's like, yeah, I'm sorry to make it. You know, I didn't have either have to I didn't even say if you have to ask anybody at wondering why? 'cause I'll be told me to. And that's why I listen to Abby. All right. You know, I'm trying to fit twenty five shit in the five pound bag. I mean it's about Bren. I'm a mother. I'm a mother. Like I just want to spend more time with okay? And lands asked me to come at eleven. You know, I don't go to anyone. I don't I don't get anyone eleven. Okay. I don't see Madonna. I don't see Justin Timberlake. 'cause they both asked me personally. I didn't go. I'm like, why are you doing? What, what is it called me at one pm, okay? That we but won't be clock. You don't really have to about eleven o'clock. It's much for me to Italy the okay. Yeah, I hear she tells that I just going to watch my kids sleep Bethany tells us fuck off. It doesn't matter if I would squawk crack. Right. When I left you turn into a pumpkin and I left that's it as Ramona's like, oh, the win. That's different story. You wanna talk about a bull China shop give it a microphone. Well, she thinks, she's the Queen now, K swear, we sort of the day class sacred, not Queen carry this night, states of America, oak ins- here. Okay. I can't find you can have it. You're more famous me. Eight Hamptons, my God himself at the top ten teams if you didn't help burn she wouldn't be in a very good situated right now. She's still be living in the square. Like you know what with the win? She thinks she's on his heart was just what it's a camel and about to throw her off. Okay. She's like, why not Kabri Staw? I'm a Capri law. I mean, how could you starve a wine? I don't get it because you have cabaret Ramona. That's cabaret not cabernet. Oh, oh, okay. Mic sensitive, the way that reminded to stare the camera, like she's wanna point just because she said cabaret star nine times, she's like. It was like Fisher told away. So then back at the house Lou, Anna showing some new the house and stuff like oh, look there's a guess we're I'm gonna put Barbara. And he's like, oh, I have one of these chairs Chiel his where I put an intern. Okay. Let me show you around get it. Because I got around. Yeah. Make the real world goes round. Sometimes you're happy, and sometimes you're in eagle but the world goes. Not makes a world go around the world, the world go round. We'll go round, right? Make a lot of money. Rick break every overs star. So then back with the girls, Bethany and sound set. She was in a bad mood and says something about you. Like you said, something like you wanna kid you don't have a huseband dying alone. Dockets cancer. I don't know any of that any of that for millions, and she's like, is horrid, because you all married and read, children, like, feel inadequate one him. I, I haven't done something I can be proud of in the end. I love it. Nobody bothered to mention the circus. I know nothing is like well do you wanna have cater just like feel like you should have a kid? I've been programmed as a woman think that this is what I want and needs. So no, you don't have to get. I've been programmed by my mother anti life like that's the bad thing. Oh, but I'm pretty sure while the mother because I know that when I had been a mother to my chihuahuas, I bid the most lonely. The dogs like please that three please, please with love. Please just for one day before we go could you take the sweater? Head. Got you know, we're so much more vile on this show. I think has a ladies are so much more vile making almost made a cancer joke, and I gotta draw the line. I can't make I can't make a dog cancer joke. I can't I still have a portrait in my apartment Xena my dog four bueller. Pass it every day. I say Xena I will never make dead doll jokes, gin then Hugh are the stupid podcast ruining my own life. So like trying to say things the sound empower. But every time she tries to say something, he's just like pile onto its Larry issues like you know what for the first one my life. I don't wanna date right now. I wanted to be single 'cause I go from relationship to relationship. So I just wanna have some time for me, and they're like, no, you can't do that. You can't wait get wait. Say now. Are you? How are you supposed to have a baby lose? Listen, you're running out of time Jack. Okay. Do you hear that noise thing ping? Different like panels across the screen of over his. Running out of time. Right. We don't have time to wait for the man. All right. You just gonna have to have a baby. So I don't even care if you see if you see a man in a deli, if you see the boy on a skateboard with his dick, I don't even care how you do it. Follow the traffic cone. I don't care. You gotta get inside your immediately. Okay. Didn't leave. Okay. Guess what does a guy guy right over there by the Quanta he's not wearing okay? You gotta get okay? I'll he got through. He got through the perimeter. Okay. We lost lost. But he left us. Little hard-drive. Okay. We can track them with that. Some weird. We were looking toddy. We are doing scams on you after that attack. And it's weird that the terrorists all they really did was turn your ovaries into little, baby. Jessica Tandy's secratary I've ever packed like that. Got an that's coming down the tube. Okay. We gotta get some firm right away. We, we have to do this right now. This we got this right now. Okay. Okay. I got it. I got this firm, late mostly Ike. Ramona's like what you're gonna have to have a baby without the man, I mean, I know you don't want to you can't have it all control. Can't it walks. By also Bethany really she goes, I don't envy decision to be honest. I don't believe my suck to be you. And I'm in, I'm someone who's gonna terrible terrible custody battle that's been going on for like ten years, now, it must really suck to be you really must. Ramona goes, sometimes you gotta be rebooted too. Tens us like but like, but, like, how do we have it on my home might who's gonna be like one way? No. And just get the best person, you can get okay? Speak Spanish speak land. I'm like, just look. She gets the sperm of someone who speaks Latin fluently deadline. Guage. Speaks that language. Flipping literally Tabatha Baffoni Bethany. All right. You can get a doctor Latin, you wanna Huahua. I mean come on, it's called the cart. Maybe she's gonna come out with a little Latin to wa wa baby doctor, that speaks legalese. But this is what Bethany told me. I'm order. He says cetera. So. So anyways like, okay, what from what Tinsley do bring give you four weeks to be single and two four weeks. We're going to revisit this and get you inseminated okay? That means four weeks, can't talk about this guy. So they start talking they're going to go on a trip to Miami, which isn't as exciting. But the can't really leave the country, this, this is like, the Theresa. Theresa, Jude is was having legal problems. And they had to vacation also in Florida like an Airbnb a time share in, like, like port Saint Lucy, or something like that. And so remote look, I'm this house brands. So she showing him this, like all White House and Bethany just goes outta like I don't care. We don't care. I don't care wherever somewhere to be. Yeah. Miss. I don't care miss. I'm not coming if I don't get the room I want. Yeah, exactly. What are they, they, they went to Miami a few seasons ago? So why don't they send them some place like like New Orleans or I don't know. There are other exotic and interesting places they could go to them to Paso. Yeah. Sent them somewhere. We're going to see some real funny shit. Yeah. Exactly. So anyway, walk through a WalMart. You know, like that would be five this locked him in a WalMart for three. I would love that. I would love that. I mean, it was so fun. When Bethany Linda went to homegoods. So let's let's take in someplace that. The people go to. Okay. So Ramona's like whoa, Mary might come, or she says, we're like, maybe like Mario was gonna come in the house or something like that. Beth is like what's going on? What's going on with him or not, like what's going on with this a little crazy, like you? Like you like what's going on? He's using. Well, I don't wanna talk about it. You haven't seen him naked three years, which I thought was very interesting way to phrase that some like so you guys probably are hooking up. Yeah, it was just through zipper. Some. Yeah. Yep. We haven't had sex three years. It was good price sex. Ev you call it. So long farewell. Mario says goodbye. Okay. So Lewis cooking Wellstone years doing her makeup like so. Okay. This broccoli the fire out here, it's just so different. Oh, my goodness, broccoli, have you ever made broccoli? Well, an eagle watchers, it's difficult. Have you ever tried to make broccoli and around house? Circle in a circle turns out a very different way, must be altitude or the round the house just makes us water molecule swirl around lions, live in my backyard something to do with the weather. Ho, so we check the door. Looks like an actual piece of broccoli has a right. Oh, it's Barbara. Hi. She's wearing an Oscar. The grouts jacket. Fucking Barbara is helpless. Okay. Really? Ancon bang gifts there mostly brings him like nine bags of hammers even bother show what she has. Is house? It's like a George Jetson Babol. I feel like I'm in a boat watching about watching the Jetsons but from the inside of the Jetsons. Like, well tonight, we're going to, like, Jill girls and Sundays. I watch him pains, like Sony is insensitive as possible. The. Barbara who were you at Halloween ago? I'll I was I was slashed, I felt comfortable at that. I felt really sexy. Him. I got a lot out. What was four foreskin? God. So then they all go down the table. Luanne has like the most aggressive aloe plant on her table because this entire scene. There's like spikes of aloe, and but of all their faces did you notice that Lou has got every plant that does not require a lot of maintenance? But could also hopefully impale. If need be. Yes, you can actually kind of run into Ramon and have her hidden, you know, not great into that. Yeah. May lou. Anyway, how Louis for you guys wasn't a great at my show. And so they're all they're all just like asking jump right on her. Barbara at all night, like she was sweet. Getting ready like a star dies. But you now that game down not even one time all the girls were upset like. Oh, okay. So now I'm getting down to the non one one. It's like that marriage a Blige album. What's the nine one one? Lou doesn't understand why the police keep showing. I've already paid my dues. Now time I want some gossip a first responder, I don't need that she picks up to nine one one can I have the, the can I have the number for human resources of the police? Oh, I can't wait to tell someone about this eagle landed there. Hello. Hi, I'm here to report an eagle. What do you mean? Your emergency services. I'm here to pass. The form of the. And bars like concerned that you think you his cab raised on down your alkalinity Fred with Attia by thattaboy lure ho comb. Came down with you. Remember when we had those jokes, and conversations about things that happened and said, like, like, no. Well, I was with the dancers. I turns out the box that is really very nuanced thing, and it becomes much more difficult. When you live in a roundhouse. I mean boxes circles what's woman to do? Were not bursting with the dancers Lou and you can even say how to Baffoni. Oh, well, that's neat could have stared turn on. I mean go on daughter. And you said, what are you going to go home and watch her sleep? Who says that Lynn? I don't remember that. I don't know it's hard to remember when you're the star show so much to take in every time Blair in my face glaring to my face. That spotlight comes on all those melts. Lou hands. Like I mean, what's the big deal? I said she should I said she was going to go home and watch her kids sleep. I mean, it's nothing compared to what she said about me. And then we see a montage a bathroom. Bethematch hypocrite? You're born like, and I ain't. Stupid shit. And like if you've ever seen eagle your house at the Iribe all that because. Okay. I like the clip where Bethany? She stands up at the ren- and she's like, and you saying you're sorry for saying, I'm Eliah because thank you, sorry for saying, I was with a married, man, while I was in his house, and then goes, well, he was married, and you were married you her a horrible person. So back to the table, I can't believe this. I on stage performing. It's a big night. And my friends can't wait fifteen minutes. Oh. Gimme a break. Gimme a piece of that eagle bar, and it's for you. You go out. You're going to act like a big so that pretty now she's a big celebrity. And she's like, by the way, you're sitting here at my house, right now eating food at my table, you better watch yourself girlfriend, or you're gonna this Broccoli's going to see you out broccoli. Well, you. Well, you. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see you there Barbara. I thought you were the fresh produce. I got an instant card on me. Barbara let's just admit it. If anyone at this table is cruciferous. It's. Little brassica. Listen, I'm a secretary. I tell the truth. Well, here's it's Ruth. You live in square house, so. You're very seven L as that what they say. Those who live in square houses, shouldn't throw stones into a corner. Those live in square house shrimp towels on their windows. Am I right? Broccoli. Oh, it's so great to be a sketch star on veggietales. Well, I might be out with the dogs, but at least I'm truthful truthful having my talk once in a while. That'd be great Sonia. And then Lou, of course, read the situation for what it is. She's I love. So I mean, she gives me warning about what's coming at me. But I have to wonder if she was more a part of those conversations than she's letting on. I mean I could just talk about this in circles and circles, mainly because I live at around house anyway. She's like listen. It was a very big party. And it was a fabulous party. Absolutely fabulous. He forgot Jamaica friends, and you must the mall. I was performing with gash. He does how zone listen, it was let's say it's a fad this party look, you're grown women. You could take care of cells. And so what that was the point we were taking care of selves. We put more time into our caution than she put into singer songs that night. She goes, well, they just think that you think that you're such a big star. She was well, I'm not going to apologize for being a cabaret. Podge is for having tens of people in my lines to see me and my cabraha tour. As he goes. But you don't say ill Bethany could have waited, you say thank you for calming and Barbara's likely doesn't like confrontation. She didn't hear what you're trying to say knock knock. So then now got it right. Just like well, I hope they're not coming up here to gang up on me. I mean, this is my happy place to destroy my happy place. Broccoli like. It was like, no, no, they're definitely not coming up here to gang up on you. Her and sonny's like what just don't be on your high horse. Okay. You treat Bethany like fans. She's I'm not treating her like a fan treaty like a friend who was good to me when I was down. And now I want her to Sharon my happiness, there that I'm up Sony's like perfect. That's will spin it will Ramona size it put it in a package of done with it. Great. Let's take this. So if you can be on your way. No, you're doing it again fan. So while back in the car. So the next morning next day. So it's not the car at all the next day and Terendak and Bethany Tinsley are walking to Bethany like SUV because and holding an umbrella over them. And it was so funny, because, like, basically rented Bethany or under the umbrella, and tens like on the fringes trying to get under nothing. She's like. Not letting your under the umbrella like all getting. And then they get to the car just goes get in. Vodka rum name liquors right now. I brought wine tequila a liquor called Luang you should drink this. It's really good and. Mike. Mike, sat lemonade. So she's like I heard a strike country, indoor into the group. Newt ledge. So then Ramona goes into this. She goes into that store. John paddlers SIA later, designed CLA decorate where to read also to read, and I it was like Kyle. And someone else went in for a gift for Denise Rodrigo, on every Bravo. So to Jonathan Adler store. I mean, this has been on so many provinces, so she Ramona from in and the lady poor lady doesn't even have time to sell Ramon on anything. 'cause ramon. Hello. What's your name? My name is Ramona. Well, I'm cold. Lupton beat you with my girlfriend's house on these something cute. Whoa. She would love this coal. She would love this coast, 'cause assess caulk I get it. That was his tail like she never sets out yet. Make sure you lock down all your merchandise been told I'm like a bull in a Jonathan Adler chapel. K. This. Don't always nice bring something as a housewarming gift, especially if it going to be late, like, I'll be. So then back at loose, she's trying on different. Crazy statement, necklaces or just pieces. I mean they're basically chest plates. I know they are Jain Norma's, and she's like, well, I'm trying to figure out what necklace, I'm gonna wear front Michalek. Totally natural. You know, singing cabaret songs to statement, necklaces. I mean it's the perfect progression of life. Well, I like the women have an agenda, sort of, like however playlist at my shows that under star of. Wind coming down to Hudson river, the wind's blowing very strong and very fast and case it slows down and then occasionally some drizzle and put my hand out. I'm like, oh, it's really again, but then sun comes out of the race out. But then, guess what here comes another cloud Lou, Ambi get how other word anyway. I'm gonna get killed you know. Told Toledo, oh man river that. Oh man. He don't stop swimming. He just gives running. Oh, man river that. Oh, it's like the most inappropriate song ever, I'm looking at the river. I see from afar. I could sense it here they come here, they come to start fights, the wait. No, it's actually just an eagle eagle just across Atlanta. My roundhouse. Well, welcome back to the nest. So let's see. So then we see doing a photo shoot for statement, necklaces and, and she looks at the photos at the guys taken on his camera and she's like, oh, well, I need to put my chin up need to put my into him. Don't like to hair Kathy darling. You take wonderful photos by wonderful their crop. But they're wonderful for a non star. You don't like that. Mary, mary. What's up with their mean a? Trubin turban. Tells us man he's not getting his worthiness original until I looked fabulous. Then some years the necklace is and she's like, oh I love. I love him now. I love the man. I'm so proud of her for having a business. But. You can't think Capri around the girls cabarets trigger worth. Emili be cut back to Albee's car. I'm bethany. Okay. How many times will be sent? Okay. This is a fun game fun game. Okay. It's like asking game. Okay. How many times? That'll be on drinking game. I'm like that's really great launching. Drinking game at silver persons house. So New York. Yeah. Well-being rehab. Did it? During this like you live. We, she said, cat, rake. We take a piece of clothing and danger of alcohol, poisoning or hypothermia after way, I'm not gonna have a. So meanwhile on on top designed down in Manhattan, Ramona's still in Jonathan Adler, and then she finds some candlesticks six pretty cool. I mean that's what I have in my apartment. I've got three candlesticks one two three three candlesticks. What's great about them to any core? The core stupid decor over, if it wins gotta have. So it's probably slutty trunk be perfect. Keep going. Green Bay core. Blue decor, three the perfect number all take two. To lands not three candlesticks sort of rent. Okay. I'm candlestick chills, Aaron and there so not Lou Aaron candlesticks. They're Oltra modern like like metal spikes with all. I mean there. So funny. So then Barbara back to Barbara the girl, she's, she's talking to Sonja about when she got her beams gets, like, oh, my God booths. So by the young girl, and I went to the lack of around she goes, you got beat up. We can see the scars are still very present on your face. Now I have got beat up at all. Yeah. What was happening what they thought touching my because I was the first girl who got boobs. And Sony goes, you got boobs. I know what it's like because I got the two and they would beat me. And my favorite move was to take them by the head and smash them into the, the hairdryer, the hand dryer. You did she's like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Love doing that anyway. Now back in the car back in the car. My favorite thing. They're driving during two looks out the window at the senior. And she goes, oh, lick at all to look at that old Victorian halted. Yeah. You know what I think 'cause that's where Indians aware. I can't say the Williams trouble and Bethany. Yeah, Dennis say the wrong thing all the time too. He would say oriental and trindon's like and you have that bad that I see here today and Hallo almost poked, my. They had to bleep that out. And I was actually I was like, whoa. I didn't know had become. Like talking to your parents is so funny book, my, I'm Beth, what's the word that, but he's supposed to say into the short people did. Frickley talent. I think it's at worth now. I think that's bad, too little people and Beth. Now. That's pretty bad to the Kyla. No. You know what? Just speak. Hey, I'm haunted houses by decided to conic freeway Hayes, Gupta, Tony shalhoub. So they finally arrive, and, but it is around has would've thought I mean, hey, hey, where's my new hat? I'm excited about it. But I am okay. Where's where's my? And says, yes, she's got a Big Hat, and bribing Alao cowboy Bathenay. Yeah, I wanted to wear. We wanted to reason with this hats here. Whatever. See me, wearing okay in this shitty little remote house that you could call a bungalow, but that's disrespect to all bungalows. Okay. That's. And basically, basically all the ladies look around at this house like this is a small house like this is tiny like they're all giving it kind of shady book, and the welcome. I look at this view my right? I mean we're a little late for fall foliage. But not too late for eagle leads gentlemen, the eagle. Yeah. And bad things like this is charming. I saw the pictures of the five million dollar house and in the six million dollar house and at that was ridiculous. But this is manageable, because it's a bungalow. So during this like. You know, seems a little isolating an isolated. You're saying that if I was trying not to drink this, or Blitzer driving. Drink also, I'm pretty sure it's hard to. Honked, his little. Such does like you know what heating diamond the boondocks where the drift plays, right? Diver and bribes like, yeah, but you know this one, the WADA I love their seed with each other. They're real estate sane. Exactly. I mean it's by the way, it's a beautiful view with really small, but it's a beautiful view. Yeah. So then Bethany is getting the tour and she sees the, the guests suite which is like a bad, but it has little kitchen is like it's like the first time, she's ever seen anything that even looks like a studio apartment. I mean. Kitchen bedroom. You can shit and cook play at the same time. I mean you could be. Kyw. Noblet like you can watch in the kitchen think, and then of our in being the bed be like touch a pillow at such a spatula. It's like what is it? Like what like like I mean I my. Her head just six point. Quotes back in the kitchen lands. Like, oh, this has vary. LA I mean it's like we're in LA isn't it ladies? And he's like. I think in anything that could drive me to drink. It would be living out here. Why this anything that ever made me not? Maybe it was this house. So lou. I like what I think they love it. Sonya's like well girls we do up a little bit last night for not being available to us up. You know, she's been doing this breath things, like what are your spokesperson? But the hell where he telling us any of this book, maybe I am spokesperson. Like I the craziest thing I've heard I heard the kitchenette in about you. I mean. So then then they are talking about Ramona like, when whereas Ramona like, because they're like, well, you know, she's at her birthday luncheon because we forgot that was having lunch with all her real friends. And so they're like, Sonia was like, oh, she's got she's got a table that goods from here, all the way across the housing. We'll, how do you know that it was on a pull up? Ramona's birthday party, I g at has Ramona at scar, Pat, and she's like height on Ramona singer. Celebrate my birthday, okay? And this is the first day we're going to be celebrating wall month. All happy, predicting me and all my girlfriends. She's just holding a cake really awkwardly Ramona. Well at birthing me. Well, what I'm going to cry. I'm gonna craw this one time a little girl and I was like, it's my birthday and Gerald par Smith was like, no, what no-one kids, but your birthday you're going to be ageless because no one's ever. Celebrate your birthday to this day of an H, and I cry on my birthday. Okay. So sunny still really mad about this birthday thing. Well, let's see who shows it for her, when she's old, those friends certainly won't with. I'm so sure bathrooms going back from Ana. Yeah. We haven't got the show for about twenty years just wanted to check in on the end of Jeff becomes her. So. Yeah, totally. On a staircase. Okay. I guess I'm stuck with y'all via Josie body also. Okay. So the Rams like, all right? Ladies. How tonight there's a women named mug Arita who pays the keyboard and she's eighty so she gets what she's doing? And it's fantastic. That's why talked to bring sparkley things and feathers. So she's gonna make them go to a cabaret out here. And by the way, Bethany was like, so she so demented all the time. It's Larry because when they start asking about dinner, and they're like still, like, okay where you go to run back for dinner say right back. Kingston, what am I? Well rhinebeck for dinner then Kingston after well, what happen. Right back. Bethany you had to settle down just like chill out? It's all upstate New York. So she's taking them to the fucking calf rain. Beth things like is it okay to say I don't wanna do that. Sound for dick euless? Enter into goes didn't make heavy Nella experience and yeah, he's drinking he'll even no one. I feel like I'm looking at the way in the future with this lady, like, mendicant class. Exactly. And you went out there, the low rain back. And that is such a good view of her future. It was actually hilarious went into did that it was so shady. And so in, but. Hilarious. So then they're talking about seemingly tries to rip before the Tinsley thing. Did you notice the part where Liu and brings out a whole bunch of sparkly like blazers and stuff that they can wear to cabaret, and so on yet? So it gives her a solid and it's like, also knew an has signature necklaces that could spark up anything. Thanks for the commercials. Sonia. So then they're eating a little later in their eating intensely. Basically, like well, Barbara forever. But I did see Sonia, the other night, it's like oh, yeah. For fun, girls. Not just well, I'm sorry. My God cancer. My relationship broke up forty three and feeling sad. Lonely. Well, I was rude, and she was her. You know what Tim that you live in the moment? You know, we work hard to be together and remember together you just have to compartmentalize and I just didn't have the strength for the boy for it and the baby story. Again. She's like thank Sonya, but that's not a sob story. That's literally my live either way. By the way, your life is a sob story. So then barbs like, well, last night, we had latte at thank doing let girls do talking about things girls talk about, you know, and Brown ACA, we and hammers that looked like broccoli and. Like insects O, the liquid the liquid I was like talking about, like some like, Lubar Kanter whatever talking about being sexually fluid. Saying gender liquid. Yeah. When we're talking about that, and the goes gender liquid. And so we see in clip of Sonia, you know, Barbara, just because you've been with girls that doesn't make you buy sexual your liquid. Barbeque. I that was my actual, but I guess I'm gentle liquid look, I'll take whatever comes at me as long as it's. Yep. Has the jellyfish. So, so then we also learned that she was in a relationship with the lady for a year, which could have been interesting. But it's Barbra one really cares. So Baffoni just all the ladies, who have made out with other people. And she's like let's face it. We're, we're all like dental floss away from being a lesbian, who cares where it's close to being a lesbian as someone in Luang guest room is from touch asto. Am I right with my right? So the. We're sure looked. I mean, I'm open. So. Barbara a woman and woman. I mean I don't have I'm in, I know we're living in the future. What with my George Jetson house. But this way to advance for me having sex with other win. What, what a lifetime I. Right. So what do you guys think think I landed on my feed? Do I sort of have the appearance of an eagle, just flew around the Hudson river and landed right there on my on my outdoor area spot? And bad things like absolutely and low Assis waiting for them to yell at her. She's giving them a chance and they don't do it. So. Well, I mean, the view a little cloudy, she keeps apologizing for everything like it's a little cloudy, but I love you again. I'm you know getting ready for my Christmas and Tinsley keeps drinking's and Lou Anna's. Good. She doesn't say Capriati just keeps saying her so because some news warranties, but Tim accused drinking anyway, every time she talks about desperately wants to talk about herself, and like they hadn't really asked any questions. So now she's just can't help it. It's, it's just bursting out, soc Nashes asking all these talking about, like, oh, my Christmas shows at the Gramercy theatre and about. Like, what, what, what would you dress up for Halloween, which was like such a sly way of being like I didn't get to see you bitch, even though I was there. Yeah. And. Well at the end of the day, ended up looking like Tinsley. So that was really great. I mean, you wanna talk about a nightmare on Halloween ended up working perfectly like like an empty Dutch oven. I don't get it. Oh, stop. I dressed as a pile of Dr straw. Dress as an empty ziplock bag. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you look like me because I didn't even see that night like, well I was doing so. So I was working, you know, that was work more than anything for me. And they start to go again. She's like I didn't even know you're gonna come out because I didn't know if you're gonna come on you're gonna come back because he's had eleven then it was eleven thirty. And then like, she told me you said, I went to out line. And then she said, he's had I said, I would've been sleep. I mean without. Well, I was just hoping you would stay like a good friend like a good friend would do. I mean I love you. But I was there for like three hours. Okay. My big city. I mean I don't really have the babysit. I'm on housekeepers. It's Mollica Bloomberg. Okay. I had to I had to reach out to okay. Minder Indus doing that sober during the thing, where she to smiles in silently. Crappy tagger for right now. Team CK quietly until his blood on the floor and someone dinner. Like you know, you know, at this one over here this dumb fuck. She told me like hey pantley, why she had to leave? Oh, why she had to go somewhere on watch burn sleep and winds like well, imagine a child, who's eight years old by eleven thirty is sleeping unless it's tackle Tuesday, which is an affair. And then the WAM tries to do, what she practiced with Sonia, but it falls flat. She goes, well, Beth me came to my rescue, in so many ways. So I was thinking I'll really I'll one more thing like what's that didn't work? Yes. Lou N doesn't know how like recalculate she just knows how to sick to what she's doing and move forward. Yeah. Exactly. She tried to set the lines. Like I was hoping you could celebrate the good things that happened to me. It's a bad thing is like. On the mother of an eight year old. It was Halloween. I was reading earlier that evening, I saw pumpkin. I hate pumpkins. I don't do well with gourds. Okay. I don't like swat. Okay. I don't like that season them. Okay, there's a lot going on. All right. And so, like, you know, hit if I need you to actually hear this seat, okay? Ready? And. Will think another song, thank you? That's a Colton encore people. Here's the thing. It's, it's bullshit. If you say you're going on at eleven o'clock, and you know that like, if Bethany is like I don't say out late or whatever. And then you say you're going on Levin, and they don't go onto eleven forty and Bethany misses it. I'm sorry. I think that's like would have been nice Bethany held out shore, but she didn't know how long she had to hold out for. So you know, you can't like fall Bethany for leaving. Although I do think that Bethany is like it's she does have to let the babysitter off, but her old thing of, like I have to go home, because I want to I need to wake up to take Brin to school, whatever as that's not as just say, just that you were taking too long. I had to go just say that. Yeah. Well, she's trying to be softer this season. And it's working, you know, but instead of just screaming and yelling and like calling her a slut, like, yeah, I'm going to say, I have daughter which she does. I mean it's a legitimate thing to us. But also blue am I mean she's just so ridiculous. Right. See, see you. Date. They also the and literally stand there waiting for three and a half hours. They could have done. Of course they could have taken care of themselves at the party and they did. But it's just that that's not their first choice. He go to some weird Halloween party with a bunch of days Lou and gay hangar on's, so Beth things like I need this energy receive it. Okay. So don't interrupt me, God don't interrupt? Okay. I'm a mom. I know. What am I what am I elephant in a circus? Is that an I what am I someone who's got nothing to have a legacy? Listen, we're all mothers. Sorry. Listen. I mean, what you say, I'm a mom into this group. It's like saying ivory there. We all know what that's like. Oh, tens didn't see there. Coarser mother. It's a totally natural part of being a woman. Next. You're gonna tell me of functioning eggs, well, congrat- sorry, Tinsley. But I'm the mom of an eight year old. Well, I want your old but I have a current eight year old well, I have electrical currents in my house. Well, I did move the performance from midnight saying, I'm Anne. They just keep repeating themselves. Yeah. Well, I mean I wasn't thinking that antenna. Yeah, you weren't thinking about anything about yourself. Quiet rocks, Bill. Even me of loving decide of Tinsley popping out the way I know being pissed off luanne all the time. Well, why don't you just get someone to babysit? I want to do that. I don't wanna get someone to do that. So will you also said you were going to relieve the babysitter? But whatever. So lowlands like this. Well, I move the performance, I came I came here for like three and a half hours interests, like, oh, well, you always say you have to get home for Brin. It's eleven o'clock. The child is sleeping. Okay. And then Bethany this is like the most evolved Bethany has been I have to give credit 'cause, you know, all rail against Bethany on her Bazzi like she's been a monster in the past, and she's also been one of the most Leary's housewives ever for sure. But she goes up and down with me. But man, she's really doing a good job this year with getting it together. She goes, I am hurt that you had negative staff to say about me making choices as a mother to go home, because I didn't say anything negative about your choices the cap rate hurt me. I was like, whoa ever, you know what pay Fisher Stevens renew psychologists your house in a greasy ponytail give him a raise because he's doing. Whatever he's doing is working nine no work credit where Credit's due, so then hands like, and I was hurt. The you didn't stay for me and celebrate Mike. Habra stardom. It's six. I'm not narcissistic. I just wanted you to celebrate me. I mean, what sort of world are we living in when an eagle is more supportive than you are my dear? I would say to celebrate with you this summer. Okay. Here goes who would are you? Meaning we're here to celebrate me with with the summer. I mean what happened the summer? I don't think it was very fun. Like at to take care of, you know, she's like identity celebrating Lou. And that's where we add data to be continued. It didn't really feel like a cliffhanger to me. But I was like, okay slap a to be continued on there. I don't care. I felt like it worked because they make you think that Bethany is gonna be totally mature and fine. And this is just going to end with our. It was. He's about to lose her Dan mine. Yeah. They both are it's like I love the fact that like them really back down. Like you would think you would think that like one of them was, oh, I'm sorry. But no, we're just gonna dig in our heels. It's great. And that brings us to the end of real housewives of New York City. Thank you to everybody who streaming along with us, if you guys want to stream live, we usually do it at noon Pacific time. We're traveling tomorrow. Like we said, so just on demand for patriot. And thank you for everybody did that. Yeah, we'll see a bunch of guys tonight at our vine, and then we'll be back with a summer house show on Friday. Well posting recap. Yeah.
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My name is Andy M Naomi. And we are a real couple Earl have couple of comedians and on couples therapy, we bring the best that's live show were comics, or close to sets together about their relationship to you, the listener, sometimes we have guests in the studio to talk or give advice that's one of these episodes. Yes. Baby. We get into it, and we, who's our guest today. Our guest is Ryan O'Connell. He is the creator and the star of the new Netflix show special which is based on his book. I'm special and other lies. We tell ourselves Ryan has also worked as a writer on shows, like will, and grace and MTV's awkward and you know, special we're big fans and we were like we got a doctrine, we gotta get in here. Yeah. I've really felt so we're calling this center afterwards, I was saying like this is like seek treatment. You guys were seek three of it. And I'm coming in from comedy bang, bang. Reference to Mr. show. Nothing. I mean I look I been special like a week ago I loved it. 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And I give you two extra episodes every month on the patriot just us talking pretty timely about whatever we're dealing with in the moment, we record these episodes, kind of advance, so we don't get to, you know, we don't get to give you what's really going on our moment. All the emotional tumbled. We sit on our couch and we get into at on my, yes. Except episodes where we bicker we do not relieve. Lou Aaron are thirty laundry, the, the lost episode bickered decided not to put it out. People are paying but yeah, for five dollars for less than a sack of moss stays also, you know, this episode, we got what Ryan is advice episode people are calling in their writing in and we and our guest, we get into we get we give answers. We are not professional, but we think we are. So if you would ever like some advice, or ask on behalf of somebody, and if you are going on call in was the number Andy three two, three five two four seven eight three nine. Of course, you can get all the stuff at the couple's therapy website, finally Naomi contest, if you writer review five star review write something nice for us on the website and then tweet the ticket screen-grabbed tweeted at us. We got one of these spa eggs, it is an essential oil diffuser. And so help me go. I use it. It from my best, I have one. I like to soak read some comic books at the back of the spa. The spa egg. The essential oil diffuser. We got an extra one in the box new. And if you send us your review of our show, then we'll pick one out and we'll send you an essential oil her. All right, guys. Let's info, but now get ready to listen to us sit down with Ryan and help you I on the Fisher. Rollet. Notably. Everyone reads it with, like NPR ASM are vibe our gross. By the way, is it gross or just Terry gross, Terry disgusting? Terry. Terry vile, Kurt vile sister. Yeah. Everyone reads it with the, the sole tree vibes. Really? We'd actually makes me feel triggered because I thought I was doing a new spin. But it turns out, I'm literally just like everybody. Oh. His being special. Your first time at the rodeo, okay. Look a pro. I've been pro literally burst Zack's eardrums with your screaming at on my major off Michalis now. That's you know, Mike for my here ice cream to know your scream was fine really always. I'm like, how should I guess privilege as Brian Ryan O'Connell is here, and it's like literally all ever wanted because basically, so we have mutual friends? When we is it is Oliver gifted writer. I call him performer, even though feel he wouldn't say that I think he's definitely input literally performs. Right. Because he goes, he goes, well, I'm reading, and I'm like, no. You're giving us those words, Honey, we met through we met through Isaac. And then Andy, and I and it was funny, actually because even before even before we watch special as it was, like, I think he would really like my friend. Ryan. He's like you said, the same thing to eating little dogs living, laughing, and loving, and he was writing the, the Iraq are thin pizza. No, I was never gonna pizza there. I would never get the rice ball, the chicken parm. That's the only thing to do. I don't know why I had to stop this to throw shade a little bit. Sponsor me. Please go there like once a week and is it was like you need to meet my from now. I was like Ello, I'm like fully obsessed with her. I love her comatose, and then he said, and of course, her fiance, Andy, who is also dazzling his own right dazzling ensure that I say that. He did say let's get Isaac did say on the fucking line right now. In terms of fron chip. He just said, look on to be a bitch, but like he's not nominating straight white males. My friend. He's not like he's like, oh, here's like a gifted woman Lawler, like peanut butter and jelly true in and now from Annie's perspective. It's peanut butter and jealousy. I'm gonna flip this fucking cable. So am. Oh, but so that it was good. And then we got literally been special and I was like I must but then it was so funny. Because in my head, I lose, okay, Isaac. You got to connect me Ryan, but I don't want Ryan and things like I'm trying to connect because he has a program. Listen, I've, I've had a lot of people come out of the woodwork since the show. Yours was a gift. I really was like, really the only good thing about having a platform now is like you can be friends with people that you've wanted to be friends with. And it's not like it's not like weird. Yeah. I have a show. It's so dark actually, as I'm explaining it in verbalizing it stark. But it's true. Permission to talk to me now. So I have a show guy. Honestly. If you didn't have a show, you can talk to me, and that is the rule that don't you, if you're a cool person. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not cool. If you're not saying the fuck away from you can go to my house, you're, if you're thirsty, shameless fake go, the fuck home. That's what I say right now go home to your millions of dollars because it's worked out really well. Fake. You are arriving, you are literally, thriving and you have overall deal, not to refocus refocus, eighty keep was close. Four we started recording. We were talking about weddings. Yeah. I like that found it so juicy I'm like listeners, you gotta hear this stuff because name had been engaged for six years. And one of the big reasons what can I say natural hurt my family financial like four real? No, no. But really? But like my parents like wanted a lot of things for our wedding that we don't want to stop planning. But what are your parents have any say whatsoever? They paying for it. It's a co production. Honey between. The bra. Well, exactly. But it's so we stopped planning. But it was I think it was also again, to avoid that right ruby. Then is mile. It's a it's a Naomi Andy joint. Yeah, I need the money to do that in the nature of the work, we all do you know what I mean? Like. Yeah. You might make some good paychecks, but it could only last three months. Yeah. You never know where the next pay Donny. Donny something you can never. That's the mind fuck of this business, as like you make so much money in such time that you. But you can't ever breathe easy because you could literally not work for a year to go the whole year. Right. So liberal, like as you and then you're saying, right, because you said, you grew up working class. Yes, I did. I grew up. Yes. Which yes triggered. I know the rest. I know. It's hard to say, like my, my dad has also. I mean he's not gonna love that he doesn't listen to podcasts. But he's, he's kind of cheap till the path a logical degree. And like he, he was a social worker Niimi, the decent money, but he also just like, like, for example, parents, divorced. He got to -partment, even though there were three children and my brothers slept in a walking closet. My sister got her own bedroom, and then I slept in bed with my dad, not creepy way in a sad way. In a sad way because you said you definitely like Willie Wonka and the. Charlie looking for my golden. And then, so then my sister moved out. I'm brother got his own room, and then I moved into my brothers walking closet and the walking closet was the upgrade. Okay. I was living, right? You had a door now. Jaren down. Yeah. And my brother, I we were talking about the day it was like you're not telling the story factually, you did that offered the other closet to live in, but you didn't like it. And I was like walking closet was even smaller, and I'm sorry. Not to be a diva, but you. Yeah. Able to turn a full circle. Yes. And also not to be like subtle about it, but I was in the closet this time too. So like living in the closet and being the closet kids to buy. At least the inner match the outer a little wet the closet closets. This feels safe. No terrify. Yeah. Exactly. Right. But when you grow up when you're because to me. It's like about an awareness of money in a constant, like I know what this costs. I know what I can and cannot have, and I went to school with a lot of very wealthy people. Yeah, that's what I noticed was like they didn't care. They never looked at a tag. They got the thing, right? And so I think that mentality still stays with me even if I do have like a good semester in life. You know what I'm saying? Like mr. Stir fried Mon. You're going through, it see Honey. Oh my God. You didn't go what am I going to do, and then the nature of weddings even on the low end? Oh, it's like twenty four thousand dollars. Was something Monica. Or very specific. Jay. No. Because my best friend got married and actually, it was a gorgeous wedding. She told me your cost, and it was a woman that she, she told me she was like she's a very thrifty and really the money she's like, no, no. This is like literally like this is the low end like this is a low end and I'm like, oh, my God, I was scared because I am knockabout money. Let's be clear. I grew up blue-collar, but Honey, I'm like, I make it rain. Even in a bad way, like I I'm in no position to be raining as much as it is it needs to calm down needs to be sunny out. I'm still making it rain. Yeah, usually tastes. Are you gone beyond because I've been in TV ready for six years? So I've been I mean there's been happier times and not. But, but it's like I definitely been elevated to this class level that I am beyond comfortable with beyond just say something I flew. This is very relatable. I flew first class to New York to do press. And so when you do. Networks pays for everything and I'd never phone first class in my life, whole Lee can relate, Honey, I wish I never knew I. I knew I was living in coach. I was lame as a rob. I was literally, are you joking? Are we going to hang out in the overhead compartments now because I knew and my boyfriend's six foot three. So he's in his own fucking hell, but I knew I knew that it was not great. But being at first class and I'm talking about delta. Fucking one. Okay. Delta one. Right. Any work. Yes. Lee shit. I was at risotto and watch the cries of Grendel walled waiting me, by the way, I hate flying truly and I literally was like, wait. And I literally was like, wait. We're blaming anywhere devastated. I lose like we can we actually just lie right? Like circle because I got so much work done Blake. I laid out like I was just like like living truly the best life, and a now it's like I can't go back. Right. Right. Cannot go back. Don't make me go back. I I'm telling you, we literally had the same experience the website. We took it, and it was again through a work thing. Now that I know could live this. It's it's like against compare and despair. Like I was I didn't love coach but we're all in it, right? This is living the life. Sway Solidarity's holidays already among the parole or. Well, you've been listening to the Dan. Dan proleteriat is I went to school. Okay. Nineteen Eighty-four animal farm. Listen to my David. Harvey podcast absolutely not. No, it's, it's fucked up because you really do. And then, and then I read, I'm Bert. So then I got, again very relatable. I got flown first class again to get an award. And, but it was it was it was to LA to Atlanta, which is not delta one is just delta. I class, and I was like. I got the first class and I was like, this isn't delta one. Delta doing because it's not the light. Which I've grown accustomed to one is like truly like verse size. It's like fucking gorgeous. When it's not delta one it's just regular for its class again regular first class with me relatable, you're like you're like, oh, it's just like a bigger city. It's a little more likely anyway. But I will say like they gave me the options for for the dinner proving that I'm just blue collar through and through. And there were like any hint salmon, MS okay, did something really fancy. And I was like, I don't like either of those. I'm like can I get a Turkey sandwich? And they're like, well, yeah, you can get those an economy. And I'm like can I just pay you to get a trip? I don't like they looked at me like I was turning down there. Free and quotes meal to eat bad turkeys bags Turkey. That's just what I wanted. Girl. Nato five Princess hunting. We went we eat Turkey sandwiches. Okay series, and we don't have an accent. That was just that was just doing way way, one of the things okay so class, and then one of the things that stuck out for us watching special was the mama drama. Oh, god. It's spoke to my heart really KADO relationships. Do more with the. Yes. Okay. AM is mom and has our relationship has gone on and deepened. It's spread to me. You're getting. Yes. Also anything contagion you're not gonna survive the first hour. I forgot to put on a hazmat suit because I thought he didn't need it. Yeah. Yeah. Totally she coughed in your mouth. Because of Newark jersey. Yeah, but the thing was again because in the show, you're an only child. Real, but that's because it was just me and my mom, oh, from most of my life because I didn't my parents, divorced, when I was gonna be five or so just and then she didn't remarry again until I went off to college. So there was no blame for anyone else until you laugh, exa- took me leave her to be like, who, Emma. And so it was that kind of. That dynamic when you're just like your both hurting. And you think it's. But I mean give you plenty of reference your brain is like placenta. Yeah. Like you just don't know. What down is? You don't know what co-dependency is you just. This is your normal. You have you live in a vacuum. Right. You don't know what it could be. Like you don't know what the alternative is. And there is that relationship to where it eased, your mom. So you're like, well, I things. 'cause things like there's our member like my mom will be mad at me. I would be devastated, and they'll do whatever I could to get in her. Good graces. Right. 'cause I'm on my black mama. Drama means she'll tell you about yourself. Okay. It's not it's not it's like white mama like tight smile. I'll see you later. Black mama is failed me and they busted. Like you like. The words way can we set the scene for one second though, if you haven't seen special you, your character, and Jessica Hecht? Fucking bitch is usually it's friends you coming through flawless. I know she. She's been a theater, actress, by the way, gays, love her gaze underrated actress love it. They're like. It's amazing. I've seen so far. Sierra friends, Damian, aunts podcast. You might know her from, yes. No her for, but, but the your characters very codependent relationship. Yeah. How much of that is based on your relationship with your mom? Well, anything with mostly everything it's like an exaggerated. But I but it was really interesting to me because I feel like they weren't codependent by choice, there codependent by necessity at first because growing up with cerebral palsy, like, Honey. It's a fulltime job like you're in. You're like you're rolling up your sleeves and you're getting to work because I really did require a certain level of care that extended beyond that of able bodied child. So it was really interesting to me, because, but then cerebral palsy sort of levels. It's self out the I liked the first ten years, you're like living in TD place, and you're just like having to get surgeries and fitted for leg braces and like doctors don't really know how things are going to turn out like hoping for the best. And then when you go through puberty you're sort of like level. Ow in the what you're left with is what you're left with. But it was really interesting because it just kind of the clay had dry. The state had been set co-dependency and you know once. Pop. You can't stop. So like, just was what it was. And I thought it was just, I think, in the show. I mean first of all, like I moved on when I was eighteen not Twenty-eight site go for four rake. Orion. I saw in, so my mom and I individually to myself like pretty early on. But, but, but. Yeah. I mean codependency is kissed can't be undone just by geography. I mean we L. L in, but I think also with my mom not be like whatever about it. But, like I think with my mom, I I she's someone who's never put herself first ever like all she cares about his other people's needs and wants. And so this show was honestly, like a weird, exercise in wish fulfilment where I was like, what my mom do. She was forced to really examine what it is that she went out up life, because I don't think my real, my mom IRL has ever done that down. And I knew it because when they when they flee the nest or whatever, like you don't have anything. Yeah. Then you're like, oh, okay. Well, what is my life without these people? And if you don't ever figure that out you're going to have no life, right? Especially because I mean with any of us, I mean, look, just even being thirty five I think it's hard to make friends, let alone when you're fifty five sixty five. How would you like if you don't kind of a stab wish? Yeah. You know, your social circle your network. It just gets harder to do as time goes on. Because everyone gets entrenched in their own lives. Absolutely. What do you do a sixty five being like girl. You want to go out like I'm retired. You know it's very hard. I know. And it's weird because my mom, and this is in the show. But my mom look really involves herself in the lives of women that she barely knows. She'll literally go on, like TED talks about a girl to like cut off at the Bank. And she really, she really does follow like a neighborhood watch page, and she's always, like talking about these people have never met over up like Vicky at the store, and I don't know she's knocks the soup k. What is going on? And there's no and it breaks my heart because it's just it's just busying. It's just like it's just blow available and, and I wished that she, I mean whatever I it's hard, it's really hard. And you know what's funny is that I wasn't emotionally evolved enough recently, like my, my sadness about my mom, not really finding out what she wanted up life would manifest, his anger because I was not emotionally involved enough to, like, Adamson what it was. So I would just be angry at her, and I would just like resent her, and I'm like, mom, like, why do you do this do it this way? Like, what are you which, obviously like would not help situation. Spoiler alert. It makes things worse and really it took the boss. You're to slash being in therapy for me to realize, like and really just have empathy for my mom, who is just done everything. For everyone else in, you know, it's sad, but me being angry at her is psychotic until they misdirected and misguided. And so I just try to come from a place of love with her. You know as much like ham, because my frustrations are really. Just sadness. That's what they're just direct but they're dressed up. You know. Yeah, yeah. It's we'll look my therapist told me she was like you have to mourn, the relationship you don't have. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. And also to stop trying to like you're never going to get that, like, whatever you want from her, like you're never going to get that said you just have to accept the relationship for what it is. And again come from a place of love, and there's a lot to love. My mom's an incredible woman, and yeah. And looking back on us in, in the divorce at all. Like, honestly, like my dad was sort of the villain, even though I was immediately empathizing with my dad at that age. And my mom was it's interesting like they got divorced, and my, my dad, you know, got a tube two bedroom apartment with three kids. Okay. I love him even though he made more money than my mom and my mom who made less money. She got a house. She bought a house that she worked on calls nurse. She worked twenty four hours a day, basically, to provide us with a sense of stability and structure. And so when I look back. At it. Now, I'm like, wait. My mom was low key like the rock star. Yeah. And she, like, really like thought for us to have some kind of, like stability. Whereas my dad, quite frankly didn't, and it was so interesting at that age, just I didn't I didn't have the emotional intelligence to even understand what that was like. Eight ten. Yeah. So I thought like my dad and I always gotten along better as FRANZ like like we understand each other in a way that my mom and I never really have. So it was really easy to ally myself with my father. But, like, yeah, looking back like my mom kill yourself to like to really provide us with something. And that's so commendable, and she so strong and yeah, I just want you just want the best for your parents, but it's hard because they didn't grow up in a culture, South Carolina fair. They didn't. They didn't understand that they got married, when they were fucking twenty four twenty five kids. They never. They never thought, what is it that I want, you know what I mean they never thought to even ask that question. So what you have is you have a lot of people now and they're like, sixty or whatever that just have really unexamined lives and. You can preach like yeah. Dealing with that dynamic. And, you know, the disconnect that comes because I would always say my mom to the disconnect comes in, like you work to give me a life. You never had. Which means you don't understand the life. I have now right? If she's put all because especially for me, it was like, sending you to private school, giving you all these things, and then it's like the whites fuck me up and ahead. Uh-huh. Exactly an experiment. And now now you don't understand like the things I struggle with the way, I behave or enemy and things will make. It's as a result of you. Let me put like giving me like it is foreign to you, it paradigm shift generational shifts article, and we have to go to commercial soon. But I want to ask you guys a question as you're talking. I'm thinking about the psych, how do you have empathy for these people in your lives in also have boundaries to protect yourself. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, that's one of the things that we heard. I are struggling therapy therapy. I can't recommend it enough. Yes, me therapy for me has been once you see you can't see, like really that's been my experience that therapy. It's like, oh, twist like story break about myself. Oh my God. Wow. I can literally never looked the same way again. And. Yeah. And I think that really helps in like, whenever I feel myself backsliding, into old patterns of behavior or dynamics I checked myself before Iraq myself, this just it's just been really helpful. Yeah. Like I love it here. Okay. This is literally exactly how you wanna break before we come back answering your questions and help you handle scandal. Okay. We'll be right back bed. Hey guys Indian Naomi here to talk to you about fab fit funds, two thousand nineteen spring box, which is on sale. Right now. If you like discovery new products if you are trying to get your beauty game up to your Fasching game up your nutrition fitness game. Upped fab fit fund is right for you. 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Yeah. And they also can write in. We have a lot of I don't check the E mail count very often. So these some of these are a little old, but I think very worthwhile. I hope I hope we can help them before these things happen. This is one of the oldest ones we have. Okay. So this comes from anonymous not to be enough. Okay. I mean shy girl or boy. We'll find out a moment. I am mixed Filipina. Mom, white, dad. My fiance is from Mexico. My mom has a sister, who has said, a lot of fucked up shit about Mexicans, and who is married to a real shitty white dude. They both have voted for Trump and rob ably will again. Okay. I don't want the presence of my racist, relatives at our wedding. Yes, I, yes. That was, my, by the way, I yes, I felt so so positive about that statement. I had to call. Yes. However, I do want to invite her son, who was my closest cousin and not a bigot like his stepdad, more importantly, I know my mom is going to throw a fit, if I don't invite my aunt and her husband what should I do? I have half a mind to call my aunt and say, are you gonna vote for Trump, again has the word a legal left her mouth in reference to a human being in the last six months? And if she says, yes, to either question or refuses to answer then I'll tell her. That's I'll tell her. That's I've sent out the wedding vacations to everyone, but her and I'm ashamed to be related to her. I love it. She was like went from like doing that seen anything like say this. Took a right turn, like I could do this to debt. I was like, all right. I was like, all right. Those are options, but I often do things like this without considering likely, or possible consequences. How could that backfire horribly for context, the rest of her siblings are not happy with them regarding this either? And then she sent another update. Okay. I that three of my four mom's siblings, probably voted for Trump. I thought about putting a statement supporting queer trans people color immigrants. Poor people children and other groups under attack by this administration on the website. I love chore. We haven't. About what to do, probably at least make a drunken rant on the Mike about how important is to stand up to big it's and come together and support each other. F- I defy with that so much Naomi. I've said before on our invitations when we, eventually do get married say, if you vote for Trump, please do not come, right? And instead, make a donation to one of the following organizations, think I mean like dealing with that family, let me Herbie fully loaded. I mean I, I feel very like Masha privileged because I don't know anyone who voted for trauma, and my family is very liberal on. So I don't know that life. I'm all about your wedding, your day your choice. And so, like, if I mean, if someone if I knew someone that voted for Trump, I would be like you're not coming like it's not up for debate, right? I'm confused about that, like, no Honey, build the wall. The emotional Bill the emotional. That's what you need. It's your fucking day. I don't know. I think that she should totally doesn't invite them or he or whatever the fuck, and that's it. It's not bad advice. I don't. That's the thing. That's so tough. Because I think that the second part of that question was just like I tend to nothing these things through to me, whenever I'm gonna make a big bowl decision. I don't know if this initially good, but I was kind of. Okay. Well, what's the worst thing that can happen to do great? Then I feel like this hell the, and then whatever the worst and be like can I get through the worst? Then I'll do it. I think it's like go ahead and do it. But no, you don't hear about it. Right. And it's going to be some bullshit in the family for like a hot minute is like like you will get married that following Christmas might be a little ice. I guess you just have to take inventory. Like, what, what can you live with can you live with them coming to the wedding and things being off? Whatever, whatever, or you control them when the toast, or do you just can you withstand awkwardness? Here's kill let me throw the city. So I'm Jewish. But very waspy. We're from Pennsylvania. My parents assimilated as fuck into the waspy German. I'm s. No. No. It's terrible thing, I've had to reverse everything. I've had to like therapy has helped me unpack all the wasp penis and get back to my Jewish allowed open. But so I found out that my sister's wedding. I found that a lot of our relatives ended up voting for Trump in a way, I didn't think was I now I have to think about, like, I don't I of, don't give a shit, but I know my parents will if I may like no get these fuckers get these white supremacist. Motherfuckers outta here. And I'm going to hear shit from them. Do I wanna hear shift from my parents for the next twenty years? To, to like, because I'm thought we're going to discuss, but okay, politics, while you're you're thinking about what they'll feel is because it's a co production, that's worth saying with the wedding, right? So that means they're paying for some of it. So they have ownership over your day. Right. Is that correct? He if that would have trying to avoid a co production. With ourselves. I mean it's like I like fucking indie film for two dollars. You know what I mean? Like Blair witch project this shit. Yes. Like I think that the freedom of choice over your day you can't put a price tag on that. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know. I mean maybe that's just. No, I, I definitely hear you. I mean, you, you and your boyfriend had been another a longtime right? Yeah. Four and a half years. And so you're like thinking in that vein. Well, yes, so, basically, we wanna get married, but we both don't come from money. So our parents wouldn't help out. Yeah. And then which is a bummer because they would let us do whatever we want. And if the cool people don't have money are cooler than people with money. What does that we've got this on? And then, so then, so basically the onus would fall on us, and I just can't I wanna to buy a house in. That's my truth. And that's more important than having a wedding day. Yeah, yeah, but I do want one just want to get rich enough where I can buy a house and have the wedding day of my dreams without impact. I thing is also Mike. We're not we're middle class Jews. My parents are rolling in either. So for the small amount of money they're putting in this seems to be a lot of influence. I do want to do plus brothers are wedding on. India wire. Indy liar. I but. No. I think it's you know, I think what anonymous is asking. I say, look because as you said, sue, right? Even in the course of the Email, there was a turn was like you know what you wanna do. You know, I know. Like, did you tell plan like literally like down totally? Do you know what you want? And I think it is so true. I think, you know, weddings is like little you're only kind of day as an adult, you know what I mean. Like what else do you have it? It's like having birthday parties like seventeen. Twenty one I guess. So like pain, Nancy meal? You're like, please make its. I know I could stop. But it's like some like it is your day. It is your time this, like, if you don't want, and it's not just because I think they're the people who have voted and supported these policies. That's what I'll say, not simply the man, but all the policies around that independent the t word. Yes. Who, who have the good sense to keep it to themselves? That's not what these family member sound like you know what? I mean these family members who seem like they're free. They're freely and is like you marrying someone who's Mexican and they talk shit about Mexicans. Oh. You don't get to come to the way. Yeah. You don't get to come to the wet. It's pretty good. I wanted a free chicken cutlet Fiji's, heavy own damn chicken, chicken cutlet. I'm aged yourself. Let's get a chance aren't feed your for you. Ryan. I'm really trying. Mcnair. All right. Let's listen to a voicemail. Okay. Hey, andy. Hey, naomi. Sorry, this little windy. I'm outside. I'm going the what are you guys still about talking to a friend about breaking up with their current booth things? I don't think she's the greatest for him. Little emotionally abusive a little bit always rain him or she's insecure on her own issues. I think needs some time for herself before seizing a relationship. I don't know if it's my place to say anything, probably isn't. But it's still only think about once again, I'm just trying to see if you tell friend that maybe the person he's with isn't the greatest person to be with at that time. That's all. Thank you. I love your show. Thanks time. What do you think? Right. I would that money that this person is in his twenty s. Because the whole I don't like your boyfriend is a rookie on some of the county. County. That's peak Twenty-four-year-old. I don't like Ted. And I don't like how he treats you like, okay, here's the deal. I get it. I have been there. I have my own issues of like speaking, my mind on like wanting to fix everything and everyone do, like I'm very go from hell. Like trust me. I I've been in those situations. A lot where I've been that person. And I've learned through lots of trial and error that people got to do what they gotta do, and you have to live and let live Honey another therapy. Listen live and let live. Now look, I mean you can you can every friendship dynamic is different. Maybe this can withstand a comment, maybe a conversation, but you have to understand having that conversation and be prepared that you're, it doesn't mean that they're gonna break up with that person rarely what I've realized is that people don't do things until they are ready to do that. You're period, I don't think anyone's ever been like from a conversation with friend being like you know, you're right, get out of here jerk. Like I don't I don't know if that's really ever happened people need to get there. On their own. So I don't know man. It's tricky. It's tricky tricky in the Senate. Now, I'm with you. You can't you can't. We've gotten a question like this before people. There are a lot of friends who are caring about other people are doing in their luggage. You absolutely cannot you unless the person is obviously, he's a little emotionally abusive and it's kinda like. Because there's an to me is also like, there are personal boundaries and rules. And then there's your friends personal boundaries or rules. What you may think is abusive another person's like yeah. Fetish faddish really is like nobody two thirds damage that they have to work out themselves, or they just may not even see as a damaging I definitely known friends where their, their partner, seemed very overbearing to me, but they liked a person who was like direct and kind of in charge. Awesome chill out, you know. And it's like okay, well actually L thing Johnny, like hell. No. But to me, I'm like that person who doesn't like your parent and they're like I love it. You just kind like, okay, totally. I think he's gonna stay clear. I got like what's going to happen? You have this conversation. I'm cly, right? I think you said you said that you're like they're not gonna be like oh, yeah. You know what? I don't know do. You have you ever had a conversation with someone? Let me pose this to you guys ever have a conversation where someone's like, hey, this thing. Blah, blah, blah. Whatever it is at suddenly like a light goes off here, and you're like, oh shit. Well, we I've been asking you because tell me didn't you have a friend, who was like, I don't think you'll Naomi would be good together, and like literally cut to nine years later. Yes. It's like it didn't stop you. But I think his thing was just that you're taller than me, who wants that to. So my God, people are so. It. He was literally. I don't think this should happen. Yeah. This is a divide that it's too, great to overcome over calm, but it's like you get the light bulb. Okay. So I've had conversations with people may twenty s again in MMA, twenty s where I'm like you shouldn't do this person. I like only twist you're so right? But and then I'm like, I'm going to be, and then they obviously literally never do or like and then you feel like an idiot, then you feel like mad at them because you're like wait. We just had this conversation. You were gonna leave him and then you didn't. And then you're like mad at them. And then you're like, wait, why am I mad, this is their life? Is there twice this psychotic? Right. You know what I mean? Right. No, totally so, yeah, you're gonna have to let it be. You have to let it be listener. Let it die. Feist. Thanks. What do. All right. This is a voicemail. Hi, Naomi and Andy longtime listener here. I am wondering is it a big deal. If your significant other does not wanna take picture. I think that pictures are great mental and they make me feel like cherished and special and I like looking back at them, and, you know, recalling that moment, but the person on seeing really just refuses to take pictures. Is that an issue? All right. Well, talk to you later, or I guess I won't but. Fully obsessed with her journey. By filter like if you wanna take picture. Won't mean them. But. Truly LOL that also like I love she didn't specify like she just take a picture. But, like assuming of them, right? Yes. But it was just like a blanket like he didn't like take pictures of like the street sky. What do you mean he'll sit for a painting or sculpture? But but photography, now he thinks what if we look, maybe it steals, a soul, maybe thinks that I okay, what is he, what did I, I kind of get? Okay. I kind of I hate having my picture taken, I feel very unattractive. And I don't know how to pose. And so I, I know, for instance, I know you know how to live and work though. Live work pose. That's what I don't know. Tagline for your new NBC's com live work. She ever to police? Stay tuned. Twenty two percents. Question they're posing questions. But it was questions like peo- as I n apostrophe. Uh-huh. It is. I think so. I know it sounds like maybe this person is insecure because he was the second part question. Right. Wouldn't be like, is it that they don't want to take them though? Like, don't post them like does this person have a second family? Right. You know what I mean? That's a different issue. It was not weird. Yeah. Got an I don't like to take them like that. That person doesn't feel competent doesn't like the face mind brain would never go there. But honestly, I knew someone that wants like very preferably that, like, what's truly seeing two people at once for like five years, like, we're not like literally, they didn't know about the other one, and I was like, what, like how can you in this culture today? Oh, yeah. Like, wow, what a high stakes can't, I know but it was crazy, like I my brain would never go there. But, like I guess that's the thing that I am I like drama. I'm really into a lifetime moments toes. Of course, I'm like, is there some family? No. But I doubt that I would never ever guess because you sound like so warm. And so sweet and hopeful I would never insinuate that your second family, really. I was gonna say has anyone not sounded unhinged. Voicemail. Voicemail, just like your unhinged, and it's like unfair. But it's just like we like, like has anyone just like come off beautifully intervene? I just think that, like, if we did it was back in the day. We've lost our good VM. No. It's true. It's definitely out of the people who choose to call in. It's like you're dedicate. You're coming up like voicemail. Yeah. If someone leaves me today, I just like screaming break my phone. What do you want to kill me? But that's, that's my more Marsha. Sorry, what do you think that there if a self esteem thing? Yeah. I say this for all of our advice questions all these could be resolved by having an honest conversation. I know that's really the truth rose stuff. But specifically for this, if it's a self esteem thing I think it requires you to kind of, like, build them up in some way, then that they feel. Okay, taking pictures if it's a secret family thing, then you're just shit out of luck. You got him. Never. Yeah. They're never. Yeah. They're not gonna take another picture because they don't want their family and Akron defined our dating you right in Cincinnati. Very close very brave. But it's far enough away. Yeah, there's no internet in Akron, Pittsburgh, and Altoona. Right. Right. I'm down. I agree. Omaha. I'm just looking at this note pad where you have Massachusetts Maryland, Maine in Montana written on here. And then I albums. The brain trust the rain tribe. The comedy of Maryland rice cub, Maryland, ROY scab. No, no. I think you also have to think about what I was plenty for me when you said, dear caller, you're like pictures, make me feel cherished. I'm like, now, this is the thing it's like you are do you feel like your partner is showing you that they love and cherish in other ways. I know probably not probably not if she if she so desperado for a pick fling, telling me that he doesn't he's not showing up. Ooh. So, so I wasn't. There's something deeper going. Is there something deeper sister shovel? And let's get in there and bottom is when you stop taking. So just think about, you know, where you're always earth, top from the bottom. There's always a new bottom top to new bottom to top. Elaborate millennial porn come record a podcast. I know honestly like ELO would be like I was at a podcast recording told me to take my shirt up, I thought that's strange because we're not being recorded. It's just made voice. But I said, yes. And then we thought on a notepad so that's Maryland. 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He even supports my not very profitable job of modelling and painting, low Leib, a Moto pain moment of whatever. Okay. Just so much good in. Here's the twist until it comes to sex. I mean, I don't wanna say Matan, but I'm cute. Picture. She said over a picture, she's cute. I try to be sexy and be spontaneous. But somehow it never happens. We used to have sex often now, maybe, maybe once a month. And even if we have sex, it's a one and done. Oh. Oh, out there was white synonymous, and then she quotes yourself and not really. But I mean like boy, I already know how to get myself off. It's your turn. I've told him I need more sex than that. I'm not satisfied. He says, okay. But nothing changes and my beard to some problems getting hard, if so, how can I talk about it with him without hurting his feelings. I don't want such a good thing to end because of an orgasm, but dammit, I want my orgasm. Well was starting to affect us. I'm getting cranky, but he still seems normal not affected by the lack of physical relations. Here's another little tidbit. Some people say it's our age. I'm twenty three and he's thirty. Is not. No hoping. Not a thing. Do. Yes. Okay. So, okay. And here's a picture of my boob bending over. Right. Really? I'm just torn as a sex hotline, I really wanna fuck. Here's the thing. I you know, it's funny like you know, I've been with my wife and for four and a half years and they're definitely is like, dry spell's that we go. And yeah, sure. And I remember at first, I would freak out about that. Oh my God. What's wrong with us? And then whatever you realize its ups, employs, however, it doesn't seem like they ever had like a strong sexual connects you own or maybe not. I don't know. Well, that's what I can't tell like I think she does say like it was good. And then lately, it has been infrequent. Yes, it's a more of a lately thing, and that we have she says we used to have sex often now, maybe, maybe once a month. God that's hard. And how long does that last two? Right. I once a month for three months qualified dry spell our that time on air. That's like that's a, that's a new dynamic. What do they, here's the thing that I always, I think about what this, like, what are they counting SX, counting, like playing all hetero paean v straight people? That's exactly what they're like. One thing, I'm like. Why don't you expand your your your palate? I was gonna like you could see how repressed but I have to talk about this in public. Privately, new very opened very talkative. Privately open privately. But maybe like they're just like, like, maybe you gotta count some more stuff. Maybe you got to open up a repertoire, but, but I get the feeling that it's I think, because she says she's like or gas like you know what can, and so it look it doesn't always have to end it in on. You know, to be very orgasm driven can also be very tale says. Who says gale as a gale at Oprah? This one. No. But it always does. Oh, you know. I. But I think you know, as you said, before, like this is one of those where it's like you got to have a conversation. And I think that conversation has to be not in a moment when like you're feeling horned up and trying to get some. Got to be a conversation when it's like we're chill. We've had a nice day. Can we talk about the lack of frequency, debating, of course, and that's the way that's very gentle because people are like it's a really touchy thing you don't want anyone to feel like the not been a good lover or like it's very so you don't have to be sensitive gentle gentle thing. But I think you need to have like a real serious conversation about it. And if things don't change it for that. Then. Because this is because she's just because especially have the country do not in any way. Insinuate don't m I your beard, I think that's gonna be very Trump on insinuate. You know a male sexuality. I know in preference is tied to an ability to perform because I think that's like what's shuts. A conversation down. Will you? Yeah. It's like okay well, don't use the phrase. Floppy. Weenie. Floppy weenie also. I mean I don't know. I don't have a penis like yeah. You can have trouble getting hard. Sometimes I can have trouble getting hard after after a big meal. So I can only match thought a big meal was your Afridi's EAC it is. Sometimes if it's too big right? Like, I'm a fine. We're I like to eat, but then I eat too much. It'll be like, don't come near me. I went on for three months ago, and I was really scared that it would ruin my dick forever. And it's like it's such a Sophie's choice that minimum to do. They're like, do I want to be both useless dick or do I want to be having a big powerful dick with no hair. I'm really happy to tell you that it works just like it did before, just like it said, you didn't have to choose. Fucking choose. But it's actually sad that I just apparently chose my hair like just rolling the dice. I'm the decision was made, and it was opening 'cause they went to I went my dermatologist who prescribed it. She told me something heroin, which was choose like, and I'm also like in point one percent, or whatever, like it's a men's you taught us function, and it, and it just never works again. Jeez. And I was like excuse me, just like never works again. And I was like come again and people still take this do you push. They do come again. She's like you never know exactly. I know that's the problem. You won't my anyway. I don't know how this turned into that. But I'm saying like it can happen like there might take it works. Friends dozen. There are reasons deepen one's heart. And so as to why figs may not be pop it off. He might be depressed about affects strive. Oh, benefits insist, how could he be intimidated question, Mark? I don't know. You saw a picture was actually a town in questions. Could it be? Could it be that he's thirty? She's twenty three. I don't know. I've been going to three years out of all all of our goofy. I think the, the true as I have a conversation and mutual conversation. Yes. Not when you're like all goofed up in the horned up and. But you're living in a goof place because and goofed up again, I understand your chopped in goof fills in the vagina. I also goof is a great word. I call them like the goof troop today around the idiots goofed troops here. Oh my God. Okay, honestly, truly hope we helped. Thank you so much for calling in you guys. I hope we were able to bring light into your life. And we will very much be back next week Ryan. Thank you so much for helping us help. Others thank you. I mean please you're the best. Thank you. And like you guys if you haven't watched special it's like do it. Yeah. 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