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115: Los Feliz Murder House Revisited

Ghost Town

34:27 min | 10 months ago

115: Los Feliz Murder House Revisited

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I love it go to Adam and Eve dot com and use the offer code town to bring home unlimited fun. That's a d. a. m. e. v. e. dot com and use the offer code town at checkout. A historic mahouts revisited. I'm Rebecca Lieb I'm Jason Horton, and this is ghost town. We are going to go back to where it all started. At twenty four, seventy, five. GLENDOWER's place. In Los feeless Los Angeles. The Los feeless murder house. ooh, we did this episode to because we were so excited to get things off. was a different time back. Then I was actively dating. We weren't in a pandemic. Or a social revolution, a political revolution We had so much ahead of us when I listened to earlier episodes. Obviously. We didn't know what this was going to be or what we were just kids what people are GonNa like, yeah, eighteen it was Obama's administration. I was in my late early mid fifty. Six years. Old, Weird Very Weird Dick, my act's. And I wanted to kind of go back to this because it has been a couple of years. There's new information and I paid the house a little visit. Oh, I. had a very strange. Occurrence happened to me there which I was not expecting because there's Some people talk about their maybe you're possibly haunted aspects of of anything but I don't think. It's noteworthy for that and nor did we ever kind of consider it not that was haunted creepy and a lot of dark history but not particularly haunted and I had a really strange situation there. You're suddenly a receptor for haunted shit like how does I have been waiting my whole life to be visited and suddenly Jason? Willy Nilly is being haunted here haunted. They're weird feelings here strange apparitions there. What's have you opened? Meditating now or something know when I was meditating I had none of these issues I think. I don't know maybe it's because I've talked about it and but I'm always had that shield of skepticism up I think that has i. don't know who's perpetuating it but I had a very Call it coincidental but called strange I took some video and you can find the video in a video version of this episode on my main channel, which is Youtube Celeste Jason Horton rebranding that kind of just to keep it more ghost town escort strange esque. So there's a link in description click on if you want to see the video of the house, but there's also going to be pictures that I took and something did not want me to take that video or those photos and put it to you that way ahead a little run in with somebody well, and we'll talk about that a little later would just WanNa to lay the groundwork. In case you're not familiar pizza membre episode two of. I did go on a second date on Halloween to the Los Phillies Murder House I don't think that's neither here nor there anymore. But just to give you the background that you need and I'm going to ask you about that about how that day only because i. Remember immediately I moved here talk of this House jazz of the. kind of suspended in time aspect. Of It. The, the murder part is almost secondary to the a vacant and abandoned aspect of it. Yeah, I. Think. So this is kind of. A two part story I guess it depends on what you're more interested I. think they're both really interesting but again to that a little bit later because when I first moved here, people talked about it and I think kind of driving up there. But I wasn't at that time. This is many years ago and I was like I don't really WANNA I don't WanNa see any freaky stuff. Just wasn't in, but I actually now went purposefully during the day went back and it was strange. We'll talk about that a little bit later also want to mention really quick. Our Patriot fan has some new tears. We have a new governor. That's right. We have new bonus episodes and bonus episode that's up right now there's bonus episodes for one of the tears for the Ghost towned verses. Get a little, the new ghost town verses about that, and there is discount codes for the merchandise and if you WANNA help support the show. Really does help we've really utilized. It is patron dot com slash ghost town pod, and then the tit for that let's move onto the episode. Don't want to upsell remote too much but not too little either no. Not at all say there is something particularly creepy about things preserved in time and I would love to focus on that and like why the psychology of that more in a later episode. But again, I think we've done something on the Alexandria Hotel just things where they are untouched by other. By people like messed with like a time capsule especially one that is a room and especially with the Los Angeles Murder House a room. That's so much traumatic shit has happened in. That is so fucking scary to me and I. think that is kind of the crux of the mythology around it because you know especially now in in Los Angeles and maybe the town or city or wherever you live. The want for people to just destroy something and put something up. Yeah. You know which sometimes it's understands is not financially viable or you know the infrastructure isn't a to date or code, but for a house for pretty much the better part of fifty years. Stay the way it is especially in Los Angeles. Now, is maybe even at different times as a kind of rampant. Kind of destruction of things, but it's a testament to the story that it has been preserved for so long, but it's going to give a little quick for people that. are familiar with this. They don't remember episode to which. I listened to the first episode and actually actually re edited it because we still paying. To God mainly because of me because I'm the one who's doing the talking not giving a ton of information and people I I I was actually going to take our old episodes and just archive them but then I realized it's like We're just going to have to live with it. You know we are a time capsule. Council effect and some people are like you haven't improved. What are you talking about the same Old Shit? Yeah and you're right maybe in some ways but I talked a little slower I don't talk as much about myself but I, swear as much. I think that doesn't change no that has not changed I don't think anybody wants to change. We're going to go to twenty four, seventy, five glendower in. Los Angeles. At about four thirty to five am December sixth nineteen, fifty, nine cardiologists, Harold Harrelson, his wife, Lillian three kids, and he brutally murdered his wife attempted to murder his daughter and then committed suicide. So he takes the ball pain hammer small hammer he. bashes his wife Lillian. Heddon. Kills her goes to his daughter Judy's room. Hits her but it wakes her up. So that blow to her head bulky number small waking up now to a ball pain Hanner Hammer hitting you in the head and. We're seeing your father. Because I also think that's somebody ever. You know it's it's a dreamy wake up and things seem so real you're in such A. Strange arrested state that you don't know what is real and it'd be very easy for her father like he did to be like, Hey, calm down chill. Everything's fine but she knew she in a panic and she saw her mother and then ran out of the house screaming for the neighbors and the neighbors could could here saying, don't kill me don't kill us and got to be very strange. So I, looking back on this I, kind of wondered know. Listening to some other. True crime face things are just crime stuff in general and sometimes it's you know you. you start by killing one person and then somebody else sees us you have to call the next person and then when does that end and I wonder what the story would be is if Judy didn't get up what he because obviously, he didn't kill Judy because she'd be a witness to what he did. Yeah he could have we've any kind of story he wanted to but I think it was the goal was to be done with this family. So if Judy didn't get up on screaming out of a house, he would he have just around killed her and then killed the other two kids that probably what probably happened so she? It's super traumatic is somewhat of A. Work Hero if I mean there's a lot of studies around it's not patricide sites not familiar. But. It's like a word kind of like that where the family head. Systematically murders the family and then killed himself and there's a lot of studies around like why that happens. It's a it's not wholly in American phenomenon but a lot of it happens in America and how it deals with like you know. Men and family roles and EGO, and provider ship been just. Ingrained Dynamics. But certainly, I mean like obviously this guy wanted to kill his family and also just from my recollection. He was he was pretty. Surprised to no one very unstable and dealt with his own a mental illnesses etcetera I also wonder now let's just say he he successfully killed his whole family. Would have necessarily killed himself or could he have just we've some story? Hey, listen I'm a I'm a doctor. Yeah. What do you? Like somebody came in here and try to rob US I'm Livin is nice house up in the hills and they killed my whole family I just got home. I can't. Be in the mind of him or what happened but I also I saw that he had a copy of. Dante's inferno the. Comedy Comedy Divine Comedy von Divine Comedy opened on his nightstand the night that it happened. Very strange Jerry very, eerie and he had you know issues like you said with. Mental issues, psychological issues, but also issues financially which chat, which again I think a lot of the Times too and I think I keep thinking about the unsolved mysteries. Episode to that we we covered a couple of them, not this one in particular but about how that underlies a lot of masculinity and provider ship with a lot of men and when they do kill their families, which again is that word of the tip of my tongue but I'm not sure what it is a lot of it is like inability to provide. Financial dire straits like money being tied to sell food and just being able to be the patriarch of the family not being able to do that anymore who are you if you can't provide exactly and then worth the fact that nobody else in the family has any say in their fate just contributes to this like Ego maniacal ideal of provider ship in fatherhood. He got screwed out of a business deal with the partner with some kind of medical device lost a lot of money on that. Judy got into a car accident with the other kids not her fault on Vermont and Los Fellas. Hill. Yeah. That's still pretty hopping area. Remember that address because it will come up later. Okay. Little Foreshadow Oh boy you know was not her fault the recoup some cost of maybe the medical, but they couldn't recoup the cost of the car. It was a lot of financial things probably happening he was you know somewhat sort of ill and you find out. If he had a lot of coronaries. Three, the had them because he tried to commit suicide previously a couple of times. So after Judy's out of the House running screaming neighbors, you know from being there and you know I don't know how dense it was, but it's It's colder, SAC which is kind of scary. Itself is yeah. Blocks off but there's houses there. There are. There's also there's a lot of trees it's really private to surprisingly private. It's right nestled into Griffith, Park. It's really old part of town and that is scary too because I think in a lot of, as you couldn't hear like she was lucky that she was heard as she screamed and ran in the house. So when Judy's other siblings woke up her father Harold Peril Sohn said go back to bed. This is a nightmare and then he took. Two doses of Nembutal, an NAMBI empty and then thirty one small white pills, codeine tranquilizers, and was dead before. I, arrived. Pretty good way to go though if you were to choose he's doctor. So he would know that I wonder if there's the stresses of being a doctor in the late fifties I know. There's high suicide rates with dentists, turnover change interesting I that's what I believe. SOMEBODY'S DENTISTS I. Rated suicide from what I remember I don't know why but. He's for that sticking your hands and people's mouths all day I in my mind if you're if you're a white man doctor in the fifties, your God. Whatever you want. But not if you've made some bad decisions yes. Business is this. On well. I always think the nine hundred, Fifty S. Economy wise things are booming, but maybe the late fifty s the sixties times are changing. There's more. Better, doctors more doctors more constitutionally better than this guy. He he prescribed. You know a cigarette for breakfast cereal for lunch and tax for dinner my sensible cigarette. But you love that I actually very into that Diet I I've been smoking a lot lately admittedly and it's Not Good. It's not good for my health. Surprisingly we found Razi. Thank you heard here fodder. For us all we are very brave speaking the controversial truths we've never heard from judy or the kids I believe the aunts. Took care of the other two kids, and there is a letter that previously this at Judy wrote to her aunt says quote family on a merry go round again same problem same worries only tenfold my parents so to speak are in a bind financially. So it's probably weighing pretty heavy. Yeah. Got My current. So to speak like they're barely her parents that soave Dr Yeah and you know I don't know if she's you know she's eighteen Anglia pretty probably Moody Teen Yeah or you know Like anybody any at that age yeah. So the house after. This little break. We're all spending lots of time at home watching, TV making sour dough starters doing some light math. Okay. Maybe not so much the light math. We've a lot more free time on our hands. You know they say about idle hands here's an idea why not keep yourself occupied some entertainment provided by my friends, your friends Adam and Eve I've been a huge fan of them. 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What House is famous for are these photos, Christmas tree on open presence magazines food. And from what I gather there's people that supposedly rented the house because the in Rica's Rica's has re Kansas Rica's lots of SNZ's they never actually moved in there they just ask. Maybe at a steel. I mean how much does a murder Housego for other lot very little very. The house goes for two point, five, million I looked up who is that more or less than the home alone house No. What the? I might be more is it? Yeah it's. It's a big house in Chicago suburb but I think. Yeah. All right. That says something to be says something to me and you know some people said, well, it couldn't be the peril sins house because they were Jewish while we have a Christmas tree because like I know plenty of Jewish people selects cultural holidays don't think it means. To be out I'm you're I mean my parents the docks or something or a are they my parents if you a Christmas tree in my parents house, they would throughout. Okay. So I think we'll let my mom's first husband which we didn't know about till. I was in my twenties different story for different PODCAST. But her she I always ask her why they got divorced and they got divorced when she was twenty, seven, twenty, eight she was like he wanted he was Jewish doctor to Oh. She was like he wanted a Christmas tree over Christmas and she could not I mean, her dad is my grandfather, a Holocaust survivor he's an immigrant so I get that hits home but it's an interesting thing with the cultural divide between Jews, my parents and other parents may be these. These they could I mean you know you don't know the the level but then some things are you know there's you could see magazines that are dated in. After nineteen, fifty nine. So. What is actually the Perelman's are not is. Kinda of for debate base photos of some people say we don't know, and also there's a rumor that these people that rented it on the anniversary of the attack. That's when they essentially found out like PS Hewlett. Murder. House, and you drop that influence. They waited. Day literally. Abandoned the house there like word gone out of here, and that's what was left behind maybe I mean no no that makes sense to me to all of this seems pre plausible as to why it's so preserved it's still terrify whatever it is. It's still terrifies me. Rudy and Rica's their son, he inherited the house, but he did not move in and according to the La Times in two thousand nine. I don't know that I want to live there or even stay there in Rica's told them. And he died in two, thousand, fifteen, he had no children. So there was no one to pass it along to and two thousand sixteen it was back on the market and as far as I know and as far as I've seen, it is still on the market avenue I, mean, I'm not versed in looking up Zillow, but it seems like it is on the market and I've seen. Records of the price was three point five, million I looked in our how accurate is just two point five million. Seems like a really good price. Yeah. For this is a hospital so I can't believe some murder person murder person some in true crime enthusiasts, Trent resonator had Ireland man exactly. That's it. Actually, it should be like it should be a celebrity like a kind of Gothi celebrity should get it I believe. Now this kind of crosses crosses world that that Stasi Schroeder from vendor pump rules maybe wanted to buy that house when I was Kinda looking things up and I believe this, the house she was talking about is she wanted to. Get, married there live there whatever it asked. and okay. Yeah. I think that she it seems like her thing that's definitely her thing. I mean, she eventually moved into a house in the hills that had I don't think any haunted history to it, but it had beautiful granite countertops as it should as it should I don't I think. Again it's like, do you really want this? Do you really and I know Stacey really leans into the her macab Shit but like it's kind of like why? I hesitate to look up the places I live in zone history. I'm like, what am I gonNa find you know you don't want to. We could be sitting in a murder house right man we probably are someone didn't die here would be surprised but I'm not looking into a right now. Ten to. I went to that was like you know what I WanNa do this episode want to bring Something to some new dynamic. Go to where all started and it is very narrow. You driving if there's like A. There's is is a party in the hills. It's a nightmare. Yeah. Very narrow. You can't fit two cars side by side. Yeah. There's nowhere to turn around so I you know go up there it's. It's a pretty. Overcast Day. So it's a little weird but nothing nothing write home about as they say. I get up there and I see the house and the facade is as it was. Yeah absolutely. There's a lot of barbed wire. There's a century twenty, one signed. So it is for sale and. The inside as. I. Know in his current as icy is is pretty much gutted. So the insight is absolutely gutted. The outside seems to be pretty well preserved. It looks as it did and you know to get up there as I was wondering like, did you did you? Did you have to climb anything because there's the okay. So here's what happened with it. So that's the same experience that I had where it was like inside was gutted outside look great There was a gate gate when he went there, there's a gave him pretty well sealed show when I went the gate was not shut. There was a single rock holding the gate in. This is pretty I. Mean There's A fortress. You and US talking about it maybe. And you went up, we went up to the house. which I I mean I don't know if I wouldn't have done it probably during the day I'd probably have to. Yeah it was pretty it was pretty creepy. Some alcohol within us to help with the courage to do that I, have some pictures dig up for sure it was very. Very creepy But yeah, the was totally open. This is pretty to concede photos on her instagram or. Post them on Patriae and such I got a lot of photos now I, wanted some video. Okay. So. The process of beginning video is that I'm the where it was parked. I can just roll down the window I didn't WANNA get out take up space intrusive. I wasn't really looking to make a huge scene I just wanted to. Capture some video and some photos. So I go to roll down the window of my car. Electronic. Windows and will not roll down. All the other ones I'm unlocking locking everyone. Else's fine I mean this window does not wanNA move. Whatever whatever I don't know what the problem is. No big deal. opened the door to get out. Go to with my iphone, my modern iphone, take some video. Camera. Will Not. Press. Play. WHOA. Because I have a lot of dream sometimes that I want to take a picture of video something and it won't work, and that's probably a common it's like you know like I'm. An. In School in my underwear whatever. But it just will not work. So I'm like. Clearing out eventually have to. Start like a restart my phone it works for like two or three six in the dark it or sitting messing with your window and your votes during the day. Okay. It's not that because I don't think I would be able to see things. So during the day, it's probably like one PM. Okay. A pretty innocuous time. It's not the witching hour anything we now know. The video will play two or three seconds and I'm like, what is I'm getting really frustrated. And then a maintenance worker, his truck was there he comes out and he goes to me he's like this house and then he shows his arm as if he's got goosebumps and he goes. And then walks away God damn. Yeah. So then the camera works Oh videoing A. Thirty seconds of video just to show what it looks like would it might be like to live there street. And then. I get out of there. Yeah. On the car around move and I'm really upset about the window I don't want to get this fixed as soon as I hit Vermont and Los. Feel US remember I remember that the accident happened. The window just goes down now. That is terrifying. Also Vermont Lewisville's maybe like three blocks, four blocks from it right yet. It's it's pretty essentially the bottom of the hill. If you rolled down the hill from the house. That's where you were here. Yeah. That is so creepy. Homa God I don't like that. Yes that. That is. What happened. So you realize you don't need to go there at night and have a drunk now double blind date there you need to go there at one pm you gotta go when you're a total square like me who doesn't bother. You, the tire tempting fate thirsty. I'm thirsty for all this. Go on Halloween night like how fucking basic could be you gotta go to lunch time at one piano time Tuesday yeah. Full stomach totally sober. nope. Intermittent fasting very empty stomach. Never eat right.

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Sudden Blood

RISK!

15:40 min | 2 years ago

Sudden Blood

"Hello kids. This is risk the show where people tell true stories, they never thought they dare to share. I'm Kevin Allison. And every Thursday we release these special episodes that were calling classic risk singles each of these episodes features just one story from our previous years if you're new risk. You should know that the podcast can be very uncensored this week a story by comedian Tim Heidegger that he shared on the podcast in twenty twelve. It's not for the squeamish. And it's called sudden blood. The music off. Please. I'm not going to tell a funny story. But I am a funny person. So you're probably gonna laugh. So that's good news. It happened. In March of two thousand six I was living in Los Angeles in Los feeless. I was living in a little bungalow community, and I was asleep. It was around twelve thirty at night. And I was awoken from my sleep by the pounding of my iron gate, and the voice of my neighbor, an older woman screaming Tim, please help. My son is overdosing. My son is going to die. I don't know. What to do? I've called the police. No one's come. I need your help. So. Get out outta bed and put on some sweatpants and a t shirt and run out of my my little one bedroom bungalow and to the right and I run upstairs to the second floor of their apartment. Her son. By the way is. Seventeen. He's about six foot three in community, college and. I had known them very well known the family known the mother and the son and the daughter and was very close with them. And they're very friendly lovely people that I was happy to have as neighbors spent some holidays with them. And so I was very happy and eager to help and do whatever. I can. I was running out of my apartment running up. The stairs barefoot thinking to myself. I don't know anything about overdosing. I don't know anything about CPR. I don't know what kind of help I'm going to be. But I'll do whatever I can and expecting to find somebody unconscious. Trump thinking to myself, you know, Jimi Hendrix with vomit in his mouth and. Because I was also there during that horrible experience. And as I'm getting about halfway up. The stairs. I hear this. And I immediately start running back down the stairs. It was a scary, son. I've ever heard in my life. It was the sound of this young, man. I'm going to start calling him Joe. That was the sound of Joe, but it sounded like a lion sound like a beast. And for some reason, my body said don't go there because that's bad sound. I started. I started running the other direction down the middle path of the of the bungalow, and I immediately sensed and felt and I must have seen him coming down the stairs after me. And and he had a knife innocent. He had eight inch kitchen knife. And. So I continued to run and I ran out onto Talmadge and up onto fountain. And I ran up to Sunset Boulevard the entire time. A literally a madman yielding a kitchen knife running mere feet behind me again, five minutes ago sound asleep. I turn onto sunset, and if you can go and Google maps Sipe and Tang's donuts, you'll be able to see Tang's donuts, which is where I ran into the Tangs donuts parking lot. It's it's a parking lot. We're a lot of sort of degenerates hobos and kind of weirdos. Like, we're chest player kind of types. Hang out. And I'm literally running around like cars, you know in this. This kid's chasing me. And I second I'm about to run into Tang's donuts. And you know, I think if I had run into Tang's that'd be dead because in Tangs donuts was nobody except for like four foot two sixteen year old Korean girl. Manning the counter who would have been no match for this this young gentleman. So I my brain told me don't go in there. That's a trap. I run across Sunset Boulevard to the McDonalds, which is lit up and get to the McDonald's store and they're closed. They're not open past midnight. And I kind of had this thought in my head of the scene and in Ghostbusters when the Rick moranis is getting chased by the Sigourney Weaver's beast. You know, she that beast basically kills Rick moranis against this window of like tavern on the green or something. So he's against chasing me. I looked to my right. There's a gay bar in the corner called Akbar. And it's Thursday night. There's a tremendous amount of guess you. Call them bears out front. Large strapping men smoking cigarettes bouncers also variety of different kinds of men out front, and I run into to Akbar barefoot and run had been in their once with a friend and. I I ran immediately into the bar and took a left and went directly behind the bar. I'm screaming, I'm screaming for my life. I'm screaming help help. This person's trying to kill me. He comes right in after me. I mean, the whole time he's literally ten feet behind me between ten and five feet behind me. And I just kind of collapsed behind the bar, and he comes running in full steam into the bar into thirty into thirty guys three or four the guys tackle him down to the ground. Take take the knife out of his hand and throw the knife on the ground at this point for the first time, I feel the warmth and wetness of the blood running down my back. I have to this day. No memory of the actual impact of the knife. Which is kind of a fascinating thing to me that I have, you know, the adrenaline running through my through my veins as I'm being as I'm running fountain. I think prevented any feeling of pain when the actual impact of the knife went into my back twice. And and kept me kind of focused on continuing to run. I mean has anyone has the dream where they're being chased by a murderer in the middle of the night. And you have the feeling that you're running through molasses, and you can't move, and you're not going to be able to get away that doesn't happen in real life. You run like a fucking crazy person, you run screaming, and you you know, like, I said it was barefoot and running through the middle of the street in the middle of the night to survive to live. So. I realize I'm I've just been stabbed first time ever being stabbed. I have the moment of oh, I'm going to die in a gay bar behind the bar. This is going to be one of those. You know, my parents are gonna have a hard time explaining this story. The the immediately clear the bar out and the lovely woman came behind the bar, and who was a paramedic student and assisted and give me some first aid and put some Bartels on my back. And really was the first line of someone just saying you're going to be okay. It's not that bad. It's going to be okay. And as I'm lying there on the ground like really starting to panic. I see these guys walking out, and they're all kind of like. By now, my shirts off, and I felt really, you know, I'm not homophobic, in any way. But I felt very protective and defensive of my body at this point that I was not some kind of piece of meat that you guys can just look at on your way out. Very troubling. So there's this is the first point when I'm taking I'm being taken out to the ambulance. I have this first sudden rush of paranoia, and and fear that the family that I'd grown so close to was planning this and this was a conspiracy. And that this was all as was supposed to have. This was their plan that I was going to be killed this night. And that the way they're going to do it was to arouse me from my sleep and create this false story. So I become really paranoid and upset and and my girlfriend who was her side of the story is incredible as well because she was asleep as well. And her side of the story was she sees me run out to help somebody. And then sees me run down the stairs being chased by a person with a knife. So she came and met me there, and we went to the hospital, and you know, the the rental wears off and the pain comes in. And you start feeling the pain of knife in back. What what what kind of pain, you can imagine? What would be? I don't know if you've ever cut yourself. It's a it's a big version of of cutting yourself. I remember being in the emergency room and variety of doctors and policemen and paramedics walking past me looking at the my wound. Oh shit. Oh shit. That's what I kept hearing. Oh shit going to be. All right. And I'm like losing blood at Mike, and my dying my still dying. I know in the hospital. But what if I'm bleeding inside? I don't know it really hurts. It's it's hurting more and more. Then I was given this wonderful drug called delayed in does anybody know, delayed Innis. It's heroin. And it really really is great. And I recommend if you guys don't have addiction problems. You try it because it's really wonderful. It's greatest feeling of ever had if ever had in my life. Was that drug intravenously going through my veins? It it started with a little bit of warmth around the nose. And then it just felt like, wow, I could just really I really love all the people around me. And I could really just be here for the this is the most comfortable ever been. So I'm not going to get into any opiates. I think that's a good lesson. So and then kind of the the the sister of the brother showed up, and was was was really great friend and still is a great friend. And we caught is. And she looked at me as if you know as her brother had killed somebody, and and look of of regret and remorse and guilt that, you know, have never wanna see again. And we just both were sobbing. And she's sorry. I don't know what to say. I'm I'm sorry. I don't know what to say. This is clearly, you know, the fear and paranoia that this family was was looking to take me out of the game was was gone. And and. The next few days. It kind of came out that that this kid was you know, he was smoking marijuana. And which is fine. I have no problem with that. And but I think there was something else that that started coming into the supply that was like this this these synthetic marijuana. Does anybody know what I'm talking about does that ring a bell PCP kind of stuff? Like, these these drugs don't have names have letters and numbers like t h nine seven six, and and it really makes you psychotic and this kid had gone on sort of bender of this and had completely lost his mind. And was was you know, from what I hear later was had a knife and was threatening to cut off his penis. And his mother was freaking out of your sleep. And he had the burners on in the kitchen and was threatening to burn the house down and was completely out of his mind. And when he came to when he became conscious and became sort of. Where at LA county jail after being arrested for the crime of trying to kill me. He he asked what happened? What am I doing here? What's going on? Why my in jail, which is way scarier than what happened to me in my opinion because I knew it was going on. And I could I could place what was happening in some kind of context and understand it and understand why it was happening. He couldn't do that. He had note he had done something that he shouldn't have done and it led to a gap in time where he ended up in jail. So he had a lot more work to be done to him. And I had to be done to me. And I'm fine. I can't walk. I know what you saw come up here. It took a lot of drugs and took a lot of courage. I usually can't walk. And I guess close by showing you my scars, right? I'm planning on getting plastic surgery because I can't stand to look at my back probably zits back there too. Someone took a picture. It was like the biggest violation of trust. I've ever had delete. It would you could you imagine. Anyways. Thank you for having me. 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John & Ken Show Hour 2 (04/12)

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John & Ken Show Hour 2 (04/12)

"John and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou it's kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Well coming off of what we saw a couple of weeks ago and echo park lake in the echo park neighborhood of la council member for that district had areas mitchell farrell. They finally cleared out a huge homeless encampment echo park lake it was upwards of two hundred tents. Although we told you suspiciously. Farrell says at any given day they used to be about fifty but suddenly announced plans to clear out the park. It was well over one hundred tents in there but the situation going to talk about now is in another part of la in los angeles which apparently has a very dangerous homeless encampment. That's been taken over by gangs. North berendo street at hollywood boulevard in los palos and the council person here is nitya. It h. y. Eight nitya rahman and she inexplicably was elected last fall. She's democratic socialist. So she's all for opening statements and And and gangs because she moved to anything to stop this and she went crazy on what they did it. Echo park lake thinking that the bringing the cops they're taking up homeless was unbelievable. Stand that they did that. So this is an open air. Drug market They're selling stuff all day night including meth Prostitution is there Weapons have been fired. Fires are frequent propane tanks or numerous that gives you an idea said for twenty. Four hour chaos. Now we're gonna talk to a few residents. They're both anonymous. They emailed us in the center. Say editorial from the los feeless ledger which has a lot of great information on this abomination that we use to talk to these two men right. We'll go with a mystery listener number one. How you doing there good. Thank you for having a mystery listener. Number two hello you there. I'm here thank you. Okay well number one you give us your evaluation of what's going on in the neighborhood. Sure well this all started off about a year ago. Would it's just simple tense. You know a couple of cents Along the vacant lot and all my neighbors including myself became sympathetic. As he's own house individuals walk up and down the street hot days offered the water offer some saks but then all of a sudden the scenario changed a few months later. Well we started seeing tagging Car break ins entering backyards And so forth and and activity and these are like happening until finally Things escalated to the point where we started shooting power tools late at night like christie being stolen. They now we have two by four wood frame structures with a would foundation and pickup trucks. Moving in Unloading furniture And expensive cars dropping by throughout the day people going back and forth with backpacks And just coming in sticking their hand inside destructor taking something and walking away Feel threatened and there's been i contact with sinn gang members throughout coming at night incident. The cameras as well as loitering During the day at the area so it has escalated this past four months into area where everyone is simply a frick and also a debt to him as l. l. gangs. Yeah i yeah. I don't i don't necessarily want say who Who it is. I guess it starts with the letter. L you could look it up. It's one of the top ten deadliest gangs in los angeles. We also don't want to promote them. Because i think it encourages them but anybody who's curious that is that is what it is. Yeah i just wanted to add legitimacy to your claim since you it's not like just a bunch of people hanging out that act like gang members you guys believe. This is a real organized gang. They're more than believe there's there's many official reports that That show that it is and that the individuals running it are part of back and tell us your experience with the police first of all since you're alleging gang activity what's the problem with with not with breaking up breaking it up. Do you want me to go. Go ahead go ahead. So i think one thing i'd like to start off with. Is that you know while we have you know Ah at the democ across all of los angeles. This is a very different situation. And it's unfortunate that the council woman mayor are calling it that this is a bunch individuals from one of the top. Ten deadliest gangs in los angeles basically built wooden structures And have been selling. Matt have found guns on them in the last few weeks. There's been at least three arrests and basically have forty to fifty people coming day by day that they are selling to stolen cars and so on so we have as a neighborhood and community. We've talked to actually on how to use to be on this block. Who said that. They've been pushed out to hollywood. Some of these homeless individuals told us that they've been slaved into prostitution by the gang that they have been made to be drug mules by the gang and Basically when we've talked to lapd or councilwoman rahman or even to congressman shifts office as well as to. The mayor's office is just been a very sad game of hot potato. And that's life or death basically every department says they can't do anything because of the other department and it's gotten to the point where the council woman won't even respond to sometimes anymore. It took us three months to get a meeting with her. Even though we had said that we'd been many of us were personally. Our lives were threatened. Some of the house lives were threatened by this gang. We told her that the police had found guns there. That's just a on record fact and yet when we finally got this meeting after three months with councilwoman rahman last week. She said that she was only supposed to be on a certain amount of time. Not for the whole meeting. She took one question for us. She laughed at one of us. When we were talking about this situation she left. She lagged. she she she she laughed. Why didn't you asteroids on what she laugh at. Well we go on 'cause she said she's not tying the lapd hands which is what we have heard. She said that she does want to prosecute and protect from criminal activity and we said well. Then why are you not helping. And why are we hearing that. You're calling lapd on backdoor phone call saying don't enforce and i said candy on record and commit to us That you will Allow anything that is legal to help protect all residents on house in-house from dangerous violent gang and she thought that she started laughing and we called her out and said it's not funny to us. You know we you know you saw what happened in beverly growth like this. This could be a deadly situation. Other people have already been harmed. And yes she. She seemed funny. Kamala harris like reaction Yeah well there's like emotional please please. There were emotional pleas during their last meeting and she was just like stone cold without any reaction and then quickly said well. You know after week right now without even hearing us fully else and so if if a council person is able to hear out the constituents then that person is unfit for office are you are more people in your neighborhood. Bombarding her to with complaints. Just youtube that a really missing shen last year of at least fifty people That started last year. And now there's you know say over sixty or a hundred who have you have people with the heads of some of the big organizations in the neighborhood you have housed annan house No it's it's it's there. It's in writing the thousands of emails. There's been pictures videos sent of these individuals doing the gang tagging on and they'll do neighbors wall There's pictures that have been sent to them of their narcotics in their hands of the guns on their side in front of it. This is there. there's fact they're and they're not only turning a blind eye but enabling and it's really scary. I can you both hold on. We want to talk a little bit further with you too all right. We have what we call number one and number two. These are two men from a los angeles neighborhood in la. They wanted to remain anonymous. Because you weren't them even refer to homeless people that weren't in a camp nearby as an housed sympathy. But what's happened is it's been taken over by gang members and it's very dangerous and the city councilwoman for this area. La city council member. Nitya doesn't seem to care and she even laughed at someone's concerns john and ken show. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi everywhere on the iheartradio app. Not listeners want to remain anonymous. They live in the los angeles of los angeles in a homeless encampment on north berendo street. Hollywood boulevard started out as just that a homeless encampment but now has been taken over by gangs. Who would says in this editorial in the los angeles. Ledger actually taxed some of the homeless members and some have been forced into prostitution. It is a really unsafe ugly situation that includes all the usual stuff guns being fired. There's propane tanks everywhere prostitution drug dealing you can imagine and these two men tell us that Attempts have been made the city councilwoman for this neighborhood. Nitya rahman to do something about it instead. She goes on an online meeting and just goes on and on about general homeless problems and how we need to find housing and refuses to acknowledge. It's a big gang problem. Here is what paragraph in the editorial the entire situation is exasperated for those living on berendo street who detail sleepless nights of surveying the encampment themselves to ensure their own safety. They report feelings of emasculation anxiety depression. Ptsd have truly come to feel. They have no rights as tax paying citizen citizens. Not only do they believe. The homeless had more rights than they do but apparently sorta the criminals who have slightly taken on the disguise of the homelessness to conduct crimes. And let's get number one number two on here. They're staying anonymous because of the gang involvement in the story. Go ahead. well. I just want to answer this i. It does say in this editorial april six rahman staff indicated that the city sanitation department would exchange the current would built encampment with camping tents. And there's talk also apparently in this editorial about using the americans with disability. Act rules to try to do something about the encampment. What are you guys know about this stuff. If i say something that little heads i'm on so i Here's the thing with the ada is. It's there there is so large it's full of wooden structures and go all the way around the block bad. There are many photos that have been out there and elderly and disabled neighbors and children who have been walking the middle of the street and hollywood boulevard. Right there is a very major street Almost getting hit by cars we send you photos. It's really sad and basically ms rahman has not acted on that and you have the elementary school. They'll interest was right across the street and everybody. Muslims neighbor working class blocks right here Or walking their kids to schools to probably starting next week and they will have to walk in the middle of the street Right over this so there is no sidewalk left I know that Misra mom's office said that they will enforce ada that that is untrue. We were on a call last week. Many of us where there's like twenty witnesses And what they said actually was that they want to educate this game encampment about what. Ada's lot mean we asked them. We said doesn't just mean thirty six inches. How long does it take. Educate that and they said we will not put a time frame on the asked. When is the day that they will need to be compliant because we've been telling them about it since november. They said we won't give you dick. Do you realize they have no intention of doing anything about it. Ever we we do in. That's terrifying especially because it's not a political issue you know many of us are or at least thought we were what left in summer right. But it's not they keep turning it into a on housed in political issue in the truth. Is you know my neighbors Both house done on house. Still the gamut a poet politics. Nobody should have their lifestyle. They use that as a distraction. Normal civilization that you'll want back -joyed for For one hundred years you just want normal life back. It's not politics at all. But they use that a fake political argument in order to distract everybody and get the get. The discussions derailed. And you end up being defensive saying no no no. I'm not like that. You're entitled to have a clean safe neighborhood. And and the issue if i may add I've been neighborhood for over forty five years. I just screw up on the squawk and there's a sense of community on the streets throughout the years. It's been never this way and to be honest as you see the house individuals go by. There's a sense of sympathy throughout the neighbors but yeah it tears us apart. We got these guys. These thugs they have a waterboy. Drags for example wagons wagon up era hit bottles for told him up with water and delivers it. There's another unhealthy. Individuals who goes to the encampment picks up something with the back and walk the streets so the thing is that the minute we mentioned these issues. Those say outreach we hear you. We feel you but i had so many times. Where's your directive to have the ada compliant there at all. You know what they're doing. They're using your sympathy against. He was a weapon. They're making you feel guilty for sidelining about ten minutes and coming to you guys is that these individuals have been offered housing. Just a you know many times there was outreach here. Three times a week for a while They turned it down each time. I'm not saying everybody has been offered housing but these members that we know our gang members have been arrested with guns are threatened neighbors have been arrested in stolen cars. They have been offered housing. They are not taking it and the other thing is a lot of the advocates It's actually really disheartening. From miss ramones support group on friday after that article started calling us White supremacist which i'm jewish family. I had a lot of members died in the holocaust. It doesn't feel good to be called that and that's pretty care. What what is it. Tell you about what their real motivation is that they're calling the yet right exactly. You're trying to shut you up with a nuclear words. They'll use any weapon to shut you up no matter how absurd no matter how hurtful this because they don't care about the homeless either with day care about is somehow subverting our our our civilized life. Here we got to go. But i wanna i. I imagine what you guys want to see happen is what happened at echo park lake. You really want this thing cleared out. I don't know that for me. I don't know that i can say that like that. I think the criminal element needs to be removed I can't say that generally there are differences but anybody who has a gun and threatening residents should not be able to be there you see what do you think. The percentage of gang members there versus regular homeless people is majority is gang because the homeless The homeless individuals. Dan the house individuals become and go. They don't stay there. Criminally these guys have like chronic recruitment. Just the other day. We saw monitors and receivers moving in. We saw huge soundbar moving in and yet despite all this the council office still refuses and denies that there. You'll have us more. If you allow the homeless encampment to stay there. The gangs will always come back. They'll want to use because this is a. This is a breach here. Oh it's a great opportunity there and they're going to pour into that breach take control of it wherever there's lawlessness allowed even if it's benign lawlessness the real bad guys will come in and exploit it. It's broken windows theory. It we have to go through. We want you guys to stay in touch with us Tell us there's been any movement either the bad direction or the good direction. Thank you both for coming on. Thank you thank you. That's number one number two. They want to remain anonymous. They residents feel fearless and the homeless encampment. There got taken over by gang members. What do you do if iran never wants to do anything about it. Where do you go you move. I don't know. I mean that's for me. Vagrants bad enough that they were down the street from me. But if it's a gang member they can't holy mackerel. That's at least k violent criminals now setting up shop on. Garcetti does nothing. Of course johnny coming up. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. But we'll have a different kind of homeless story coming up at five o'clock when a listener. Who email who says he is homeless. Just looking for work. We'll see what we think. Jesse we'll see what the audience thinks to coming up later on the show. Apparently the biden administration has announced when it comes to the border. Look at this. They borrowed a trump idea and they've reached an agreement with several the countries that have migrants coming to the us by the thousands to put the military on their borders. Mexico is made the decision to maintain ten thousand troops at its southern border. Guatemala is saying fifteen hundred. Police military personnel will go to its southern border in honduras will send up twelve checkpoints along what is known as the migratory route north honduras also seven thousand police in military. I wondered when they were going to go back to the trump way. I figured they would unless like we've said like this the migrant slowly. Yeah your vote eight. Yeah but it's so bad in the near term. The pr is baking now. They could face an election in two years and get swamped by. People have had enough of this. Now they're gonna they're gonna they're going to lose the house and the senate for sure if they don't do something because i saw a sixty seven percent of the country. disapproves of biden's immigration policies. Now they can't take it out on biden. but they'll take it out on the congressman especially border congressman. Which is why you have. Democratic border congressman in texas leaking. The video of all the chaos. And the mayhem going on because They're the first ones to get executed. Now i but biden's done. And i know i i've been up front all along. I always thought on my life. He's a stupid boob. I have i remember go back to the nineteen s and he stupid boop his but because of all the anti trump anger fervor. He was the last guy that they had left. And everybody's trying to turn them into say he's not he's just now senile stupid boat. All right there's nothing going on there. He ran for president. Twice and bomb badly was bombing a third time until they realized oh crap pretty sanders is gonna win and then people started coming out voting for biden because that was a really horrible group. Democrats that ran. He put up. Because i think he's one because of his ties to obama shot. He is not a bright guy and it's it clearly demonstrated the vast trove of video. That's out there online. You could say he's been wrong on a lot of things in fact. That was one nap. Defense secretary who worked in both republican and democratic administrations. Who said joe biden has been wrong in every major foreign policy issue for the last thirty years. Okay he just and now look what he's done. He took a bunch of programs that were working and cancelled. The ball ended up with a huge disaster and quietly. They're going to go back to a trump was doing. They'll deny it. Call it by a different name. The have some excuses but he's going to go back to what you because what trump was doing works. Yeah the worst. Part of what's happening at the border i think was summed up pretty well by this republican congresswoman. We're gonna play your audio now. Her name is nicole. Meli attack is from staten island. New york she's another one of group of congress members not kamla harris. Who made a trip to the border to see for themselves. He went on friday to the rio grande valley in texas with a group of house republican colleagues. And here's what she said. It's been absolutely heartbreaking. You know this is something that is. A crisis is unfair to everyone involved okay. These migrants are being exploited by the cartels that are making billions of dollars encouraging them to make this perilous journey The unaccompanied children that we saw these facilities was just heartbreaking. See them crying. They don't wanna be there The law enforcement that are trying their jobs and keep our border secure and they're being overrun by these cartels 'cause toll to stand down or they're being diverted to either child care or to other areas where they shouldn't be And then the individuals that live surrounding communities and of course the american taxpayers or being forced to pay for this nonsensical policy. So it doesn't help anyone. The only winners in this right now are the cartels and the smugglers are running. Our borders right now are c. b. being told to stand down the a verdict other areas. They cannot secure our border under these circumstances and the president needs to make sure that he repeals this ridiculous policy put in place restored the policies that president trump had that at least controlled order on the georgia immigrants. My mother was a refugee but when my mother came from cuba there was a process order in right now is complete. Disorder and chaos and the cartels in the smugglers. Are the only winners in this right now. Yeah the customs and border patrol agents briefed legislators and said a molly attack is said this the bottom line. The cartels are making an estimated half billion dollars a month. Huma trout a month human trafficking guns and drugs and one feeds off the other. The criminals are now freely shuttling weapons narcotics gang members and terrorists into the us because the border patrol officers have to deal with one hundred and seventy two thousand people a month coming over and according to me takas the cartels exploit children and use them as scouts. If border patrol comes to close in one case two weeks ago the smugglers yet this through a six month old over the raft into the water because diverted the agents to go. Save the baby and let them get away. That was very humid of the six month. Old baby was thrown out of a raft into the water to distract the agents. And this is what joe biden has brought to. America is a report in the new york times that federal workers are getting an email from the biden administration offering them paid. Leave four months if they take in migrant children. This is how desperate they are now to find somewhere to put these kids as you know. We're already going to have groups at the long beach convention center and out pomona fairplex but this is another one of the great ideas to federal employees. Him and in return they get a four-month paid league their bunch of boobs. They were so smug and so sure themselves that they were going to open the boarder and get away with it. Because everybody is so anti-trump. I thought they were absolutely right. 'cause they were going to travel trump's executive orders and they were wrong and they were stupid and other causing an enormous amount of suffering an enormous suffering and by the way what parent either let the six month old migrate or was on the raft with the six month old. And what was that. Baby ripped out of the mother's arms to get thrown into the water. Oh remember the toddler. The toddler the remember the ten year old boy was crying at the border. That do you know the parents showed up on an interview. On cbs or nbc. One of think claimed he was kidnapped really. They claim their son was kidnapped. That didn't have ransom money to get him back. Well they probably biden people told the sector that sounds like a. There's going to be so many cover stories and so many fake news stories to distract from this. All you need to know is the biden. Administration is trying to stop journalists and congressman from taking any photos or video and releasing it publicly because it is such a horrific mess. I think in one of these One of these cages yeah mallya takase the congresswoman. We just played. She said she has photos of children. Sleeping on top of each other it was built for two hundred and fifty people this holding center. It houses four thousand. These kids are in what they call a pod. Pod is the new word for cage. It's meant for thirty three people. But you have a hundred of them in their zero social distancing all right i mean that is so disgusting it's unfathomable but that's what. The boo biden brought boob biden. Coming up john and ken. Kfi johnny scant fi. Eighty forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Coming up after four o'clock we'll give you the latest kind of burbank with tin horn flats. They put a fence up. Our has been going on between wrestle with the burbank city of. What's wrong with them. You people crazy hedmark era gazon last week when you were out. And he said it's one city council member. There's just obsessed with this really remember. The name have to look it up. I know what if i see it. But i can't remember off the top of my head but we'll get into this after the jews the staying in the city council people gangs taking over and homeless encampment is okay guy trying to run a business not okay what. Oh and my favorite story today from the times on corona virus. Apparently there's a very war going on here in california. There's a variant war. Explain what that means. You had to figure trying to squeeze out more. Hysteria really is funny. Ohinouye this is good news. Explain why we're not seeing a big uptick in cases but it's bizarre. There's a huge black market or ready for fake facts. And e vaccination cards apparently fraudsters are hawking knockoffs of the three by four inch cards on retail sites including ebay at sea and shop affi- as well as on facebook and tiktok. And apparently they're very convincing looking if you look at the pictures because there's been talk about having vaccine passports which is getting people who don't want the vaccine for whatever reason unnerved to the point where they're looking to buy fake vaccine just paper cards so those are easy to reproduce stay are very easy to reduce suet at home yes. I don't know why they didn't see this common. They should have made them like they've made. Some of the like driver's license has money laminated coating inside like feel. Get your driver's license. And you hold it up to the light. You could see that they have but look at the graphic images that camp easily and they have the same thing in In money too. That's why when you go to a place and they hold money under a looks like an ultraviolet light picks up right away whether it's counterfeit or not they still have as who are posting their vaccine cards to social media it's recommending. You not do that. Oh i'm so proud look at me. I've been back here's proof. Here's my vaccine card. I've never seen. I've seen a lot of stupid things. Why would you post your vaccine card. Did you deborah. I did not. I did not. You didn't even post a vaccine selfie. I was impressed actually i. I didn't do a selfie. But i did write that. I was vaccinated. That little sticker. They give you. But then i felt like a dope. Yeah and so. I deleted it all very yes. I m learning there was an i was vaccinated sticker. Yeah little blue circle. No i missed out. So i felt like a ding dong and i decided forget it and i deleted it was up for about maybe ten minutes. It's too bad you would have given us a material. Kidding would have been great. Probably what you thought they see this deleted but the way they are breaking federal law falsifying vaccine documents and fraudulently reproducing. Cdc logo yeah. That'll be that'll be enforced is his five nation for counterfeit warning if you do not receive the vaccine by the vaccine though they're not enforcing murder laws anymore. I don't think they're gonna go after fake guards. Some people are getting hold of blank ones and filling them in themselves. Yeah that could be an inside job right. Well you know if there's a god they'll all catch it when we come back the tin horn flat saga tatsuhiko for this family. Bar restaurant. saloon. Saloon i feel like speakeasy i feel like ripping the defense dan myself don't you. I mean it's hard to believe. Apparently the week before that it was the sandbags. That damn stupid burbank. Wrong with these yeah. They're all their lead over shimon now. It's a pissing match now. We'll bring you the latest news on that and there is oh and we gotta talk about well as i mentioned before. La times is reporting there. There's a vaccine. There's a very war going on with the corona virus vaccine. All that on it's exciting. Johnny debra mark has the news. kfi am six forty.

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68: Parasitic Barnacles, Haunted Murder Houses, and Chriopractic Cults with Brian Koppelman

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68: Parasitic Barnacles, Haunted Murder Houses, and Chriopractic Cults with Brian Koppelman

"It's two twenty eight AM in Los feeless, and you're listening tonight call. Hello and welcome tonight. Call podcast reader, strange days and lonely nights. I'm in Los Angeles. My name is tesla. And with me is Molly Lambert and over in New York, we have Emily or Shida, we've had like three LA locations in a while. I just wanna point that out. We've been very coastal bias street. I was just say, I made the decision to, to place us in Los feelers, because we will be talking about the list feels murder house, but I, I realized while I was saying it that Los feel is, is one of the most debated. How do you say that place? Places lows Felise, nobody says to really be that well know if you're driving your navigator, we'll say Los Felices your navigators, navigate. Well, it's either way, argument could be made. However, that's where we are. We are we are there. We are also later in the show. We have very special guest on Brian Koppelman co-creator show, billions on to talk about. The girlfriend experience and chiropractic, two great tastes that taste great together. I mean, up later in the second half of the show. But right now, we have to hit some news, because there's Pinson important UFO news. The ignite call news Memorial Day weekend. So the New York Times reported in the New York magazine followed up with the fact that there have been a ton of navy pilots, or I guess, from twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen there were a number of UFO sightings, by navy pilots between Virginia and Florida off the coast. They didn't go ahead and say that these were extraterrestrials ships, but they couldn't explain what they were, and there were a couple of near misses where planes, almost collided, with them. And there are some details in the New York Times article about how the G force, everyone was freaking out about the g force because decelerating an accelerating are dangerous point. So if you have to decelerate because you almost collide with a UFO, it's not good. Bad is bad. So. Yeah, there there were a number. I think they almost daily fighting Elise and this was the sightings were reported to the advanced aerospace threat identification program, which we've talked about, before on the podcast, very secretive part of the Pentagon that deals with this kind of stuff. What do you guys make of this? Cool's hell. Cently. There's just been so much declassification of all this. Now, we know that there were so much, you know, research and recording being done about UFO's like all along. X-files honest me yet. They were saying they were. Right. Also strange. So these, these sightings, the stops being reported, and I guess that's because the pilots had relocated to, to go hit up is this in Iraq and Syria. So they weren't, you know, the I think there were two pilots who are quoted in the article, and then several others who wanted to remain anonymous, but yes. So there was like this, this year long thing of these UFO's, and then instead of really like digging into it, it was just that the sightings were reported and then left alone for a long time to marinate, and then be discovered by the New York Times and night call. I thought it was also interesting that like the way they described how they moved which sort of sounds the way that you would imagine a kind of yet, Hollywood UFO, and, like the fifties to move to sort of hovering and then loop and leaving like that. I thought it was funny that they described that as being. Like they knew that, that would kill a human for it to write. Funny is. That's the James four pivot and go this way. And that way. It also is like it's weird how the, the behavior of UFO's is so kind of similar in like all of these different tales. I think we like literally a year ago, talked about coast to coast, and the UFO sightings that were reported on an object that looked like a sphere encasing cube. Described that sounds, I mean that sounds like Jodie Foster's thing in in contact. You know, what's also strange. Like, why would there be UFO specifically in this area were fighter pilots test things? But they were like that's why they said they knew it wasn't a commercial or personal drown. Yes. Efforts thought it was drones. And then it turned out. It couldn't be. They were like, but they said it can't be Joan because it's in this area, that's just for like fighter pilots, right? Actus and then it's like, will why with the UFO's go there? We'll because if you were an alien wouldn't you be like Florida Keys? We're. That's a real Jimmy Buffett. Yeah. I enjoy that idea. It seems odd that during a time of like there's so much kind of dramatic news politically, and everything then to slip in the UFO stuff when nobody has the bandwidth to really care. That's part of what makes it feel like we're living in the future that's been the thing about these past couple big like you Afo revelations that it's like, come on. We have too much to worry about you could've told us this. I look. I league. Told us in twenty fourteen when we didn't care about anything. Then we would have been all over it. No. Now, it seems like part of the we're in the end times general feeling that we're getting I have to say, though, the, the best antidote to, like, the kind of, you know, reading this report and trying to figure out what to make of it, and not really like having enough information, but just enough to be like, I love the government is like we don't really know. Right. That's cool. Our whole it's classified. And we also don't know. I read something else about we talked about earlier about Moammar, Omar whom among. Boom among I read like a like a real scientist talking about 'em. Wa wa and being like, oh, we thought it might be an alien spacecraft, because, like we're just gonna find any moment. Right. I was like this guy's a real science, and he really believes this, and then it turns out, maybe there's just more stuff going on than any of us know about. Five twelve twelve fifteen. This week's episode of night, call is brought you by story worth. Father's Day is coming up and Father's Day mother's day. All these great family, holidays are always a great opportunity to get in touch with your family, and remember all the great memories and things that make them special to you and story worth is a great way to keep in touch, and save all these memories and make them a part of your family's life story worth makes it easy and fun for your loved ones to share their stories. 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And I think overdid deleted the post, but luckily, I still had the tab open. So I could read God, thank you. Whoever you are known to be ashamed of sharing this with us because we definitely wanted to talk about it. It's the best is called the Reizo Sophon barnacle the post, which we will certainly link to on social, if you want to read more about it or know, how to spell rice sufferin it's written in a very narrative style. So. It sort of tells the story of what this barnacle does, which is essentially that it attach. It's attached itself to crabs in this case, a male crab and like undetectable over a long period of time takes over its nervous system. And also turns its reproductive organs in to reproductive organs that create more Reizo suffo- Bon barnacles. So it basically can impregnate male crabs and make them into baby factories is how I put notes. So we stand this. Is read some of this. Yeah, it's great. It's a great host. It's beautiful in this scenario. It's written for male crab. She looked normal once when she was young as a juvenile. She looked a normal barnacle larva only a few millimeters long, but her juvenile body had one terrible difference. Her head was tipped with the needle protruding from her shell when she found you. She used her body like a hypodermic syringe stabbing you and injecting, her own cells under your skin, it goes on. Then it says just when it seems it couldn't be worse, your abdomen explodes. You're now sterile and her go nuts are arising out from where your genitals used to be her to Morris ovaries now attract a male rises cephlon larva, who injects his own cells into her these grow into testicles within her body. She now has everything she needs or next takeover, which is that she takes over your brain. And so you forget that you're a crab and you think you're barnacle, and then you take care of his son of if save. It's so metal. The barnacle. It was so delighted to read them. I know I for one have always thought about how can we weaponize, male pregnancy because if mango get pregnant, if we only had little needles snouts, while the real the real kicker though, is the, the brain, half of it because it's not just that it makes you reproduce this other. She's that you want to take care of them. That is now your now attached to them like that. That's the that's how you really take over. That's how you weaponized practicing. It's amazing. But please go read the whole thing. It's like it's so good. Yeah. Dot com comments we're good. But not they didn't like really give props enough to the writing of this. It was a wild ride aliens are among us, already exactly through the see, like if you found out there's alien the could do that people freaked out, and then you're like, guess what? It exists already species real don't get poked. Don't, don't get poked, one final bit of news, human composting will be legal in Washington state. Oh, it will be like, oh, I'm so excited to be composted. I think it's the perfect solution thrown into the flower beds with myself. Yep. Is this the mushroom suit? No, this isn't lighting. You can bury your body in a flower bed. I think I think it is like a scientifically assisted version of that. I don't think that there's any cremation involved in well as we talked about once before there's a mushroom suit with, like thing they seal you in tune, the mushrooms, take over your body. And that's what Luke. Perry did. That's awesome. Yeah. I love that. Me. Let the bodies hit the earth. Yeah. The bodies hit the earth and make beautiful flower. Would you eat vegetables harvested with your friends ashes, what with my on my enemies know your enemies, but like like someone you love? You eat like the tomato from the I think I'd rather it be someone. I don't know in a way really be somebody that I know I would yeah, what if what if you don't care what kind of person you're getting, and you'll be anonymous, if it's someone I know it's going to like, I'm just going to be sad, eating that to me know if you like giving them one last hug. With my God, God hug. While in far more depressing news, I guess, maybe not life after death. There's the Los feels murder house that we've talked about before on the podcast has once again been placed on the market. It's super it's a weird situation. You guys it is very strange. Curbed LA covered, it the, this house was the house on believe Glen, our in lows feelers, and it was the scene of a murder suicide in nineteen fifty nine a doctor killed his wife attempted to kill his teenage daughter, and then killed himself. It was also not to be confused with the other Los there's many. There's not the first state. Yeah. Refer saying the Lucille's murder house, I always what they're talking about the lobby. Sometimes they turned. Yes. Sometimes this is those feelers murders house, and sometimes it's the murders mansion. Either way it is this is. Known as the one that was basically a time capsule. Because after these crimes occurred, the house has passed to a different family who never moved in the sun, who was the surviving member of that family, who had the house for a number of years, use it apparently as some kind of like just a storage facility for his stuff, which was strange. But it began to attract a lot of people who wanted to look in the windows, because it was rumored that there was a Christmas setup like a tree, and, and presence from back when the crimes were committed that turned out to be false because the doctor who committed the murders was Jewish. And so then it was like, okay, maybe it was the next family, which would place it probably in the seventies, either way, it was, it was a strange untouched weird interior, that then was bought by Gloria allred's daughter, Lisa bloom and her husband three years ago. They wanted to expand it they started renovations. They tore out the whole inside. They tore down to the studs, and then abruptly put it back on the. Market for three and a half million dollars. They're only accepting cash offers, and as I assuming that people would know that it's because it's like filthy with goes. They put out a statement saying, oh, it was we run into all sorts of permanent problems. We wanted to expand the house, but we'd have to read the hillside. It's going to be too expensive. So now we're gonna Lissette at like a million something more than we bought it for and it's torn apart. Go to bring your cash all you nauseous, on, for sure hash who has three and a half million dollars in. Nobody has three and a half million dollars kidding me. Deserves to be. We gotta go to Vegas. Yeah. Make three and a half million dollars in roulette. And then by the Los feeless murder house to be the Nighthawk comp ace, great really don't want to live in that house. I am well under percents. Sure. It's hardee's. They're burn into the ground. I posted about this on Twitter. And we received a call from paranormal, invest, right? Because you were talking about, like if you were to tear, that if it was a total tear down. And you just built another house on that land when the house yet still be haunted. A believe that was your question. Yeah. Because I'm wondering if when Lisa bloom, tried to do the renovations, like was she thinking that she would just raise the house. And for some reason, she just couldn't. I mean, is it really that, like, maybe you have to stay with them? She saw ghost. And she got freaked out. Didn't want go back. We have a night call from Z. Yes. So we have this Email from z and z says, hey, there, I'm Z Portland native and co-founder of all leading paranormal investigations team hell up paranormal investigations and the ghosts in hose podcasts that's hose, of course EA you X onto the questions to start their different kinds of huntings. Residual haunting are usually the ones attached to land and are basically an imprint repetition of a past event that happens on a loop. Okay. But what the fuck does this have to do with ghosts? Well, sometimes we forget that the earth is a living thing, some areas and materials are more prone to absorb energies and others. Radiate them look up the Oman house in Beverly Hills. Residual huntings are fairly common and while they can be startling af. They're pretty benign, and can't harm you an intelligent haunting is when a spirit or and be can off. Often will interact with you small things being moved a knock in response to you ask in the entity to make itself known like the Maitland's from Beetlejuice or the entity from the first poltergeist movie, not all dark entities violent, haunting or demonic a Spar is getting them to leave. I know everyone's first instinct is to grab some sage. But please calm down. Sometimes you literally just have to ask. There are different ways of removing unwanted paranormal guests, but it all depends on who or what is in your home. One in doubt, find a local professional to help you. And if they tell you, they charge for their services, you kick them straight in the taint and tell them to suck your dick, no one should be charging for that. That is blatant horse shit dickering. But this is already an essay. And I can go into that another time or you can listen to go sit hose, and hear me and might be Danielle talk about it, wink. Thank you so much for thousand gray area and good. The Oman house is the house. I believe that was built right by sociale. Dr where the Manson murders. Took place was demolished and the address no longer exists. So the Oman house, I believe, was then built like a, you know, kind of, on part of that land and is haunted land is haunted didn't matter that they changed the address or district. What is happened there? We've said this before, but America's haunted, America's eerie haunted. Yeah. Like there's no part of America were. There were not genocides murders so or burial grounds. Yeah. So I was very interested in what she said in the Email about like being a movie replaying over and over again. Yeah. We've heard that from other specifically Rachel, Rachel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The gas talking about, like you see something over and over again you don't you can't interact with it. Exactly. But it's like a shadow an echo of something right? And then you have to ask to leave. Nicely. I guess I mean I love just asking says no, why would it leave? I mean, that's what's interesting about thinking that goes kind of you give permission Slough, right there in purgatory. And you give them you free them. That's what horror movies. Have talked also case goes from this grisly murder in this feelers and everybody who's tried to develop the house, or model Ed or do whatever with the land being we think scared away by it. I mean most of the time when I've heard like Rachel's, a great example I feel like we've heard several other examples of this, if you encounter ghost or something that feels like some kind of what she's calling, like a residual haunting. It's not most people don't report it being like a scary thing. It's just sort of a like, oh, there's somebody else here type of feeling. So that's, that's my questions. Like why has this been a universally negative experience? Is it just because of the nature? Sure of the death. Is it like is it always going to be that kind of haunting, as opposed to just kind of like benign, somebody's just hanging around, because their life got cut short too soon, or whatever? And this sounds prohibitively bad something about that. I know it's bad. I've driven by. It's bad. Five trust trust the vibe yet. My feel like my husband was league. We should dry and I was just like no we're not going to go back there. I'm so sorry can't go bad ghost. Well, if you've seen any ghosts that you would like to tell us about give us a ni-, call two four zero four six night. That's right. Or you can Email us, and I call podcast itchy meal dot com. We'll be joined now by Brian Koppelman for a little chat. Hey folks, if you love true stories about extraordinary life experiences. We think you'll love the risk podcast risk is the show where people tell true stories, they never thought they dare to share stories to uncensored for public radio on risk, nothing's, too intimate, or too strange. Like the one about the guy who got kidnapped by the drug cartel, or the girl who discovered she was living with a cannibal or the woman who learned the person she was sharing. Kinky fantasies with online was her dear old dad, you'll hear real people sharing about life experiences so funny so scary. So mystifying you won't believe your ears. Find it all at risk show dot com or just search on your podcast app for risk. That's RAS K exclamation point, or risk, hyphen show dot com. We are now joined by Brian Koppelman. He is, of course. First and foremost, a fellow grantland colleague of all of ours from a while back. He's also the co creator of these Showtime drama billions, which you may know of may have heard of. And he also wrote and cowrote many films, cluding rounders cluding, the girlfriend experience, which were fans of here high fron, welcome to call so happy to be here with you guys. Yes. Grantland alum. Just ask just throw. Yeah. So you've been working on this very New York Centric, money Centric, like finance world Centric show, which I think is so interesting after having come from writing girlfriend experience, which is such a like, I don't know it feels like just like this Ordonez story of like the world that billions takes place in now away. Yeah. Feels like you're, you're the financial crisis. Girlfriend experience came out of trying to understand new kind of transactional relationship that had. Supposedly top notes of empathy and intimacy attached to it, and David LeVine, my, my lifelong create partner and Steven Soderbergh. The three of us came up with that because we were all at we were at a hotel, the Mandarin Oriental hotel together in Columbus circle. And. We were down in the bar area and notice this older dude with this college looking beautiful sophisticated girl who was clearly working him. And Levin of Hanley said that girlfriend experience and it was clear because we need that bar at that time this stuff was going on. And Stevens said, what are those words? And we said, well, there's this. There's this new movement going on where disservices being sold that has a facsimile of intimacy and then Stephen started talking about all these relationships that are like that now. Right. The broker relationships the relationship you'd have with a trainer or your yoga teacher. And as we all started talking about it. We realized that, that this was a way to tell what seemed like one story, you know, there's very little sacks in the movie, and we will tell a story that seemed like one thing that was really about something else. And so to me that idea of telling story that seems like it's one thing at first and this about something else. Is the story is what we do on billions for sure. And so I see connections in that way. I'll say a huge difference, is that the girlfriend experience is largely improvised movie. It's the only largely improvised movie that David and I- wherever involved with whereas billions is tightly tightly scripted do that. Well, how when you write something that, you know, is going to be largely improvised later. Like what do you do that? You're, you're doing an incredibly detailed Allen, also, David is one of the stars girlfriend experience. He's the screen right? He plays the screenwriter. Yeah, yeah. With whom Sasha starts relationship. So then Dave would have some measure of control in a way. And Stephen, you know, that was an art movie made for very, very, very little money when Stephen was experimenting a lot and he's genius. So we've built very comfortable because Soderbergh such genius working in that way. We did it incredibly detailed outline where you. Right. Not just what the scenes can be about. But sort of in a granular way what should be covered what everybody wants in the scene. And then Stephen Dave, and everyone's there to sort of make sure that goes, the right way. Also, Stephen at this idea to cast real people. So the trainer the kind of star the other star of the movie along with Sasha Chrysanthou was a trainer in New York. We knew and so you're basically telling Chris, this is what has to happen in the scene, but speak say what you'd say Stephen didn't cast any actors from Sasha was the only professional actor right in that film. And I don't think Sasha was in sag, right? Yeah. I'm in now, she is. But I don't think it was in sag done was it? Shot on digital. Yes. Stephen shot on the red Cam. I remember being I love. I love all those digital early read about here. He's been a red for a long time. Well, I loved it too, because, like I was the person I feel like I'm only an tonight were all in film school, right when it was switching over. And so people were very firmly divided into camps of either like you're shooting on film, or you're shooting who's class divide. But yeah, I was always like the people like why wouldn't you shoot on digital like explore the possibilities of digital on Soderbergh? Always treat. Oh, whatever. The new the new thing is he's like finding the way into it. Yeah. Knows knows what, what's worthwhile. And what's next man, he is a brilliant. Filmmaker we got to make like three movies with them and learned more from him than from anybody else really. It's such a great time capsule. I would encourage anybody who's listening who hasn't watched it lately or maybe hasn't seen it at all. It's such a I watched it, maybe a year ago, or maybe a little bit less, and it's such an incredible time capsule of two thousand eight takes place over the election, the Obama election and it's just like it's just like, plopping you right back down, and we also we can move on. But yeah, we interview what was incredible about that was the other thing that you can do that sort of thing. Try to get as much of the world depicting, right and accurate so that it's easy for the people to improvise within it. So David, and I interviewed maybe forty two thousand dollar an hour escorts with Stephen there most of the time, and they would just tell us everything about what that life was like. And then. To have Sasha who wasn't a prostitute, but was a sex worker in a way, there just immediately gave the thing, the promoter of legitimacy because Sasha had had experienced having to manage these transactions herself such a complex, psychological, you know, proposition to just feel you have to manage all these people. But also look like you're not managing that, like, yeah, she's amazing because I mean Sasha so smart. And the fact that she sort of from the beginning of her career was aware. Okay. I have this tool kit. I want certain things out of my life. I actually see a path to do something in a way, nobody's done before. And, you know, she looked at what Jenna Jamison had done and realized, I'm not saying, Sasha and realize, like wait. I think I'm smarter than she is. I think I understand media because I'm I'm a generation after watching what she did. Yeah. I think I can actually use this, too. Propel myself, you know, I'm also going to be honest about what I want sexually, and then I'm going to use it in a way to gain momentum and throw myself into this other career, she's a really important DJ now. And she's a great DJ. I feel like she and Emily have the same taste. Most flattering things that anybody ever told me was Molly on. You saw her once I think it sin family. And you said you thought she was me at first. Thank you. She's about, like two feet shorter than me. But thank you, awesome. So I think that the amount of what that movie was the fact that Sasha ended up being able to ride all this to this place in the culture that I think, only Sasha grey occupies. Nobody else is like her who has a million followers, or however many on across insta-, and Twitter, but manages it without really now any posts that have sort of anything to do with her sexual image, she's sort of transcended in a way that everyone knows it. It's all part of who she is. It's incorporated, but she's she's been able to sort of move forward, just fascinating. I think that's a very common thing. Now that it sort of doesn't matter what you get notorious for as long as you use it as a platform. Right. Because that's also like the Kim Kardashian thing, obviously, not that she uses. As a great platform or anything, but just sort of the idea that like it's part and make your it's all in the game. Yeah. And now everybody is in the transactional economy, so that movie is also very proud about that. I was going back and looking because tests, I think you brought it up on our last episode the, the cut article that Jane Marie posted about how to like make like what side hustles you can do to like. Yeah. They took down. Yeah. You posted that they took down. They get they took. A lot of those are also said, don't sell your hair. They change it all it was just it was such a mess that post it. If you wanted a really great summary of how depressing the economic landscape is right now. It was a perfect. Nothing's more depressing right now than aspirin journalism. Magazine like a lot of the things on it. Were they weren't even like full-blown services? It wasn't like become a housekeeper or I guess I was dog Walker on there. A lot of it was just like. Yeah. Sell off aspects of yourself like your voice like do right over work on fibers something. It's like finding ways to like, sell your kid kidney or what? Yeah. Which you can't really translate into a second career so well compared to sell your kidney once it's the problem. Only really sell your hair, then you have to wait for your hair to grow back before you can sell your hair again, kind of a flaw. It is a fly. I mean, the whole thing was very flawed or if we figure out how you regenerate kidneys over and over. Sure. Where the money is. Grow and kidneys impossible kidney. We wanted to take a night Email while we had Brian in the room because it turns out, we have a, a chiropractic experts ledge enthusiasts in our midst. I didn't know. Yes, we have an Email this week from cocoa. Hello night. Call a while back you discussed if chiropractic medicine is bunk occult at cetera. I do enjoy having my back cracked by professional. But there is definitely a cult connection with a certain subgroup of the field. I moved to the bay area about a decade ago and met a longtime live journal friend who lived in San Francisco, she commented on growing up in a chiropractor cult in Sacramento. Her parents were apparently heavily involved in this group that was super into energy work in chiropractic, healing a couple years ago, another friend asked if I was interested in temp job, she had done previously, it was working reception. At a chiropractors office, when I met the boss, she was a super friendly, thirty something woman who had gone to Cairo school. But what she practice she explained with something called network spinal analysis in network. You are rarely physically touched sessions or called. Entrain -ment, it seems to have a lot more in common with Reich raking. I've read it a million times. Never said it out loud. You lie on a massage table in a room with two to three others. Something about communal energy and people, frequently scream or shout or cry. I once had my boss told me to imagine breathing through a hole in my back like a whale. Okay. So a little weird. They offered me free sessions while I worked there, which was great because it was wildly expensive recommended three times a week and rarely covered by insurance. My boss gave me a workbook written by Donny. Epstein, the founder of network and encouraged me to come to the annual conference that summer after I'd been temping a couple of weeks. I saw my friend from Sacramento, I told her about this weird chiropractor. I was working for. And she was like, dude. That's the fucking cult, I told you about. She was a little freaked out to hear it agreed to entertain -ment sessions. But understood that I was not on board with the worship of Donnie the weirdest thing is that I've struggled with back pain and posture for a long time. And I had measurably better posture during the few months, I received network care. No idea how it worked. Good night. Cocoa. Thank you. Cocoa. Seems like a big San Diego thing. She's at those in San Diego. Right. Or San Francisco, I think it was, we'll her friend was in Sacramento, California. Right. California rooms, Donny Epstein one, really. What happened? Talking about this. I'm just looking it up and I'm I'm gonna go on eighty nine percent. Sure. I was in a room with them. What how did you arrive in that room? If I say, I was around someone in the self help field who I don't want to name at the moment. Okay. And I believe you have seen was there as well. And they were talking about this energy healing stuff. So Ray key Rakia is when you put your hands over somebody, but don't touch them energy healing. I believe there's this book that if you all haven't read or talked about, on the show, it's so up your alley. It's called like the full facts case on cold reading, and it's written by this British guy, and it's expensive to get, but it is. He goes step by step with every single aspect of how cold readings are done. You know, which is the my leading thing, and the way in which we're all susceptible to it, why we're susceptible. How were tricked and in it? He goes through every single technique, so that if you say, no, no, no. But what my friend said, it's in the book, like all the techniques and all of this stuff, so chiropractics separate because there's utility to certain kinds of, of chiropractic given this have there's a lot of thought in my life. And I think now if you're in, you're listening, don't hate me. This is just my personal truth. I'm sure your personal share our personal. Sure. Your personal truth is, is different and chiropractic, is incredibly healing when it's for purpose if, if you if you need to get your back crack because for various reasons and you feel better, and it's there for you. That's great. Yeah. But Rakia this kind of supposed- energy. Healing is all about the emotional thing that happens to you. It's like you know, somebody can sit down across Mathare for the first time and merely being in that setting. You just crack. Yes break. Yeah. That's what it sounds like happened to Emily with acupuncture. Sweat a bunch. But that's a legit like that's thing, right? You're in this environment created for you to have catharsis. Yeah. And we need a society that we demands, we have to find moments of catharsis moments of relief. And we need ten release created, like permission structure to let ourselves have that space. Even if that's all it is. That's right. I had back pain really bad back pain for a period of time, but kind where they x-ray you, and then say take cortisone shots and do all the stuff. And so, I started reading John Sarno books healing back pain, which Howard Stern talks about a lot and I and in those books he talks about a year. All these different therapy, and why you don't need them to get better. Fact what you need is to give yourself permission to get better. And that if you do you can most of the time. And so do I believe it's called people were cult. What do you guys think like I meditate? Right. I do TM. Right. You only have to scratch a little bit for people to start talking about why. It's occult. Now I'm gonna practices it. There's nothing cold. I've never been approached in any way. Cults. We were talking on TM is so expensive. My issue with TM is that it's, you know, when you read the responses because they respond on, like message boards and stuff to accusations that it's so expensive that, that makes it suspicious. And a lot of the TM, you know, social media team will say, well, we really wanna make it acceptable to all so we have like a lower tier, but it's still love the, you know, about the TM social you I was real I was looking into TM. But I felt like it was prohibitively expensive in a way that made me very suspicious of it. You know people love it. You can practice it for free you kind, but who's gonna give us the David Lynch foundation. So I had this huge skepticism. I remember the first time I went when I feel like I really need something like this, and I spoke to Bob Ross, like the famous guy who runs the David Lynch foundation. He's sort of head of TM in a way, and I said, I think you guys are maybe a cult or you were, and I've also just talk to me purely scientifically, and then read all the stuff about the. Jeez. And I read books and what I have found out, and it seems to be this seems to be true undocumented it like you can find it as they do, give away, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of TM lessons year to veterans school kids in at risk areas. I do think that they largely amount expert on this. It seems to me they largely use the money to do a lot of good the David Lynch foundation in particular. I don't know about TM at large, and they definitely I've seen them, give people a break on the price when people need it. They have to train these teachers and it is for me highly therapeutic, right? Whatever that, whatever that means it helps it's helped me be less anxious. And it's helped me creatively. So, yeah, it's a mode that you respond to at least like a motive station or sent train, or whatever watched Penn and teller bullshit about chiropractic because I will watch. Sub supplication it, which is I think people should look it up where they talk about sort of, like by doing the chiropractic modality, they can make your digestive system, better. Or they can make this mostly. It's all trapped in the sub. Sub session is how it gets batter. That stuff's just to me bullshit, and rather than just saying, hey, this is a form of physical therapy that can make you feel better. Right. Which then it's fine. It's useful for sports medicine. It's a good sports medicine chiropractor. Yeah. It's like I think it's like there's a need maybe to science scientific it a little bit for people who don't believe in that kind of, don't just accept the basic premise that, if you let yourself lie down on a table and let somebody just like take care of you. Second sounds like one thing that it's not. But this is the thing like going back to networks final analysis. I found an article from the LA times from ninety two and it says network uses light touches and taps rather than jarring aggressive manipulations, the back cracking standard many chiropractors offices, the tops often leaf patients crying, laughing yelping or shaking as they re experienced traumatic events. I've tried my guts out on the table says singer-songwriter Rozan cash, it's incredibly powerful. It's been life changing for me. My body, definitely feels better. I definitely have more energy. So it's basically I think that's Johnny cash's daughter, by the way, right? Yes. Exactly. And it says it is. I object, though, hold on. I have to object to object to defining Rosanne cash that way. No Rosanne cash. Really one of the most successful songwriters saying. No, you are. Right. Right. Yes. She put the trio like as good at making music as anyone of she's incr- truly. I'm more surprised that she was involved with, with this back organization. Yeah. Apparently, it was it was very, very trendy in nineteen ninety two enough so that they referred to it as a celebrity. I mean, that's my belief is that a lot of these health, self help movements are really about, like networking, just. I just paid her autobiography Roseanne's. I'd say Rakia does not figure heavily. Whatever that. Thing we were we were talking about last call kind of about, like, what defines a cold weather. It's behaviors or whether it's the actual belief and the workings of the religion or whatever it may be. And it feels like I think that TM is probably a good example from what I understand a good example, one of these things that gets called a cult because of the practices, and because of kind of the trappings of it, and the way that it looks and less so about how the how the group actually functions what like doesn't mandate. I mean, I don't write. It might have been a different, right? Or the like Maharishi school, or whatever might be a different kind of thing. But yeah, I mean these people all did train with the are they all train with him and everything the ones who are currently running. TM and I it, it's one of these things like there's a utility in the practice. And then I, maybe it's my own failing I and proxy and all this stuff. This is another interesting thing about all these things like maybe Roseanne knew this guy, Donny Epstein, and I found proximity makes all of us just to live in our moral stances, and when you are close to somebody or know, them or seen them in a different way it makes it harder for you to judge sometimes because we are we want to be empathize. We want to understand. We want the best people. I'll say the practice of TI has been incredibly useful for me. And for many, many, many people, I know and they've never asked me to do anything. But then I don't know never asked me because I, I have I have a microphone and I have a big platform, and they know I would start talking about it, right. Or is it because that's just not what they do or you don't maybe project, the need for it the way that other people. Might come right to it. I also I know Bob for a long time, and I believe that Bob and David Lynch are fully. Their intentions seem quite true and pure to me. But you're right. I think you're right, that people just need a room to cry in. Yes. And that whatever form that takes whether it's talk therapy, or, you know, yoga or TM or anything that just allows people to like be vulnerable in a space that is something everybody needs. And something that probably takes place, a religion for people who, don't who aren't religious. Yes, I'm so yeah, that you just gave me the name of my next podcast room, cry. That is because people always say to me on my. People always say to me I feel like but of room to cry has really good pass name. Isn't that what they all are brought up Howard Stern? I think that's why Howard Stern get such good interviews because people are on. Yeah. Especially when you're yeah. Now we're all on Mike. Yeah. Gotta use your voice in someone. Well, that was an excellent plug, Brian seamless for the moment, which everybody should listen to. And yet you're still, you're still you're not on hiatus or anything like that. You're still in middle. Okay. Great. So check out the moment on itunes. I assume all. Suspects watched billions on Showtime anything else to plug nothing. Okay. Nothing just him. If you think you need it. Yeah. I want to get out. Can you give our night call listeners a mantra if they don't want to spend money on him? Fremont. Eighty two mantra. No, you. In. No, I'm not. Because you have to learn how to do it. Yeah, I can't. Three three you the freebies. It's not a find one within your snow. Not at the level that they're called. It's a sound. It's a sound non nonsense sound word that you repeat over and over to yourself, but I also don't wanna send somebody off doing it without. I mean, you know, you do do I'll say an hour and a half with a teacher before you pay. Anybody anything where they talk you through the whole thing? Right. Then or Electra, then if you want to do it, you take an hour lesson with the person. And then you come back for three more days of three more hour long sessions. And then that's it, then you're, you know how to do it, and then they, then they ask nothing more of you. I mean you do sign a few things about what to do with your income for the rest of your lives, and how they're going to get it. Of course. I don't feel that that was an invasion. Really? I signed it. No. I mean, there's no that ain't right? Right. That's it. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. Right. Ryan my pleasure. Guys, take care be. Well. As a ways give us a night. Call about chiropractic about the gig economy about anything at one two four four, six night, or give us an Email at night. Call podcast at dot com. You can also follow us on social media are Twitter is night. Call pod Instagram and Facebook or both night call podcast. And also, we would love if you had support our patriot on it. He dot com slash night. Call we're getting pretty close to a goal of two thousand dollars a month at which point, we will have a live college hoop.

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/06)

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (05/06)

"John and ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Welcome everybody The voice lines tomorrow one of our last reminders. For your messages one. Eight seven seven moist eighty six one. Eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six and of course some fridays. We put people in the dumpster a couple of weeks ago. We put in la city council member by the name of nitya rahman in the dumpster. Really been radar course. She hasn't been a council member of that long either but this was dealing with one horrible homeless encampment in her district in the neighborhood of los angeles this los angeles city council district number four and she replaced david ru. I guess that's who she beat in the election and she just got in and the thing is it's got a homeless encampment but it's become a drug operation run by local gangs and seven. Did a story that we played yesterday and rahman's first response to the reporter was. Oh that's gone well now. It isn't now mitchell pharaoh at echo park lake. He got two hundred homeless people removed from the park and they're doing a whole renovation. Crime is down significantly in the neighborhood. Nithi rahman will not get rid of the homeless encampment or the the gangs that are running the the drug operation. She just refuses to. We're going talk now with Allison be cohen. She is the publisher of the wash feeless ledger. And that's where we found out about this homeless encampment along with a couple of listeners. Who came out anonymously to talk about the to'real in there and she wrote a yeah. She wrote a great editorial. I gotta read just one paragraph. She's about the recall of rahman. Yeah yeah she wrote nearly every time rahman talks or has a spokesperson talk for her her message always winds. Its way back to her penchant for talk therapy for the homeless or buzzwords related to racial injustice and equity. She's got a virtue signaling transition. Team that i mean this is. This is what the problem is. If you can't have a discussion with any of these people because they lapse into this this jargon this gobbledygook and and and she talks about you. Know the background of some of the people that endorsed her which includes the democratic socialists of america los angeles they endorsed rahman and she says there anti-capitalism anti prison anti police bill critical race theory and pro all sorts of free stuff for everyone. Taxes could damned. Okay this is what's taken over so much of the government. This is the thread that connects all that stuff. It's it that a distaste. For american society american capitalism and every and success american success distaste for police presence yes enforcement right which include homelessness somehow. They hit a critical mass inside a government and even inside the media certain extent which amplifies all their absurd issues. And everybody i know is standing around on. What the hell's going on. This is like a coup well. Let's get alison big going on here. Alison welcome to the john and ken show. I'm great i'm great Longtime listener first-time interviewee. I do enjoy your show very reg auditorium twice. It's just that good i mean. Thank you pack with so much information about rum. And then you know her background and it looks like her philosophy as a council member. It's just it's an eye opener for people that are not familiar with her in that district is her beliefs. Are they widespread in your district. Your knowledge no no. I don't think so I think there's there's a small part of the district that assured roman into office. But i've lived in the district. I don't know for a long time and i. It's you can't even just be a democrat in this district anymore. You have to be very very far left of that. I mean even if you're a democrat you're too much of a centrist. You know when i was. We've been so busy with cova and reporters It's you know. Suddenly last september You know august-september holy holy moley. We've got an election We've got a write about. And so i really started looking into rahman roman and I became really kind of calm. Very concerned and really shocked About the dsa and sort of what their tactics are. And i was. I was down. I would say for a couple of weeks. Because i do think this is what's happening and i think she is the tip of the iceberg. And you're in your twenties said she. She said she was not a card carrying member of the dsa but her values and there seems to be a line and again desa's democratic socialists of america l. a. chapter. Yeah yes that's correct. I mean she I read through her Candidate endorsement questionnaire You know in preparation for writing about her for the campaign and that is exactly what she said. I want to be really clear. I think nigga is a lovely person. I think she's a nice person. i think you know i. I have interviewed her. I have met with her. You know before cova did i. So i don't dislike nece- i think she's extremely likable. I think that she's in the wrong job and i don't. I don't think that i mean. I think that she would be better. Served and the city would be better served and the district would be better served if she didn't her true passion is which is homeless issues. just This she's a one note candidate and this is what what it's all about and certainly with the berendo situation I think we've seen you know how she's how she wants to handle that situation and which is not handling it at all. Well you right here. That the organization's goal is to infiltrate all levels of government including at our hyper local neighborhood council level and are larger los los angeles city council. It sounds like she is just an operative for this movement. Don't you think so. I think that she was She checked a lot of boxes. And i think that she was hand selected by those that had ties to the dsa and another organization called ground. Game la I you know. I don't know if she's unwittingly knowing that she's part of this group but i think it is ideology so now let's talk about the homeless encampment because her approach seems to be to do nothing. And you said we need a mitchell farrell approach. You're like they did echo park lake. They have to do something about that. Encampment and completely cleared out often. During covid i want to call in on eric. Our cities Press conferences and asked the mayor. Have you have you driven around the city lately. I mean it's really bad. And i think what i hear. I talked to people all over the district all the time for my job. I think every. I think there's a tipping point that that's being reached and I think the thing. That's so frustrating for me as a reporter when she talks answers questions about homelessness or this particular encampment or if one of her spokespersons does. It's just so many words that just really don't make any sense. I mean it should just be of course. We will remove the gang element and the crime from your neighborhood. That's what's that's what's crazy. Is you have to argue with them about it. You have to beg and plead with them to do the obvious which is what has been done for hundreds of years as you remove a cancer like this. I mean the hours and hours and hours that are being spent daily on the discussion about this. By those that live on the street Me anyone involved in this. All she simply has to do is say is enough is enough. This is not okay and gang members committing crimes It's unacceptable and you will be moved and you know that's the answer. It's that simple. It doesn't take paragraph after paragraph after paragraph of explanation. It's very clear-cut should happen. Hold on because when we come back on we want to talk specifically about. What's going on at berendo street with the homeless encampment that has turned into a drug dealing gang members. Yeah it's it's it's it's quite a story and she lays out some of it here and alison cohen with us. Alison become as the publisher of the los angeles ledger. They have been following this homeless encampment. The john just described we covered it a couple of weeks ago with residents. Who actually and this is almost never happened before the two guys. We wanted to remain anonymous. They're so fearful of retribution from these gang members running this homeless encampment. More coming up john and ken. Kfi and john and ken show john kobylt kitchen. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. We're talking with allison v cohen. She is the publisher of the los feeless ledger. The local newspaper in los pizzas in los angeles. And that is the site of this crazy. Homeless encampment turned drug business. Run by gangs in the area and nitya rahman the newly elected council leader Councilman refuses to do anything about it. I want to read just a couple of paragraphs from Alison cohen's piece. That she wrote in her newspaper. She says that a homeless encampment has been taken over by the la mirada. Locos street gang. Nearby residents have documented hundreds of photographs and dozens of videos showing drug deals at all hours of the day and night and tagging which is led to a turf war with another gang called white fence which is notorious gang from boyle heights. Some claim that the l. m. l. That's the la mirada locos has been taxing legitimate homeless people at the site just to keep their tents up on the sidewalk and and forced homeless women. I'm told into prostituting for the right to do. So they have found loaded guns propane tanks. Stolen goods from bicycles two. Tv's and a slit. One of the tensest where the meth drug deals are are made. And this is what rahman into to anything about now and Let's get alison back on here. I i i would think like most of your district. Most of your your community must be crazy right now. Well during during the break. I was getting my email there. Apparently there was a stabbing today. in in los feeless four o'clock in the afternoon You know that that kind of stuff just doesn't happen in los feel it smell and and you know. I don't know if i've been around long enough. That i remember gang element that happened in westwood in the eighties and westwood never came back. You know everyone left westwood. That used to be the place to go. I mean those fearless is starting to get a really bad name Because of these issues. I mean just now. Four o'clock today Woman was stabbed. She's been taken to the hospital and police have arrested a suspect. You know Resident or a homeless person. I don't know. I it just it just came across an email and also during the break. I you know i've been fielding Comments all day from the editorial and you know. I just got another common to most of them. I would say ninety percent are in favor of of what i wrote There's some mean ones and twitter obviously as nasty people. Yeah no it's it's bad. I just mute them Because it's you know. I've been called a white supremacist. I've been called racist sexist. That's the response to everything now. If you don't put up with all the chaos that they start screaming that at you well. You are advocating for a recall. Yes we we are advocating advocating for a recall and it's very much in the early stages We have a meeting tomorrow afternoon. And we will be filing paperwork with the state of california To form as a a pack to funds and see if we can pull this off. I mean i know it's not easy you know. It's not that this is recall aroma. In it's not like recall is the new way to get people in and out of office but something had to be done. I've been hearing about this for months. And i've been watching carefully and and finally i just decided To pull the trigger on it. I i love my neighborhood. I love council district four. And i'm very concerned about about something which i think to me sounded a bit in conflict from what you said you said that if the rahman you said he's a very nice lady and really the job she should have should be dealing with homeless but she's on city council and this seems to be the biggest issue in that neighborhood right now and i don't think she's dealing with it very well. You're saying she should not be dealing with the homeless from the viewpoint of a council member but some sort of viewpoint of working with an agency or something. I don't know i. I do know and believe. It is her passion. I think you know dealing with constituents and all the other issues. And i mean i can tell by watching her and her stuff and meetings. I think that they're annoyed. You know by having to deal with some of these other issues and you know. This district was Run by tom. Lobont for fifteen years and you know this district very used to having a council member That deals with constituent issues. I mean you know. Tom labonte just hop out of his car and and fix the pothole in the back of his his trunk. That's what. cd four is used to. Is that realistic for for everyone. No but Y- the district needs someone that cares about the district instead of rolling her eyes and acting frustrated and signing off a zoom meetings early when she only fields one or two questions when people have waited hours weeks months to talk to her. You're saying they seem annoyed because people are calling up concerned about this dangerous homeless encampment. There annoyed by it. I think sh. I don't i mean i think she's annoyed by the smaller issues in the district of having to do with constituent services regarding this particular encampment i. I really can't figure out why she has dug her hills and like us. I think that she's hoping that the gang element will eventually get up and leave I i don't think she's going to force an issue there. I think that she doubles down and digs heels when the why. What's the upside here. This is not benefiting anybody including the homeless well A resident that is pro. Nitya over there the other day on thursday. She just said on friday when i was last at the site. She just said who who really understands if they're homeless and who i mean if they're gang member and who really cares you know there are human derek human being and they need our help and i said well they're committing crimes and she this will who how do you know i said well. Lapd tell tells me well. We don't trust the lapd that's anarchy and the residents. There have told me that as much hell as the lapd has been through over the last year they the lapd is the one agency and the city that they have gotten some relief from regarding this issue that it the lapd notes and they're trying everything they can do to pick off. You know the the crime element there. What one at a time. But the the residents are very thankful for the apd and and how they have tried to help right. Alison we appreciate you coming on and keep us updated on the any help we can give you let us know. I really appreciate being on and again. Thank you for all that you do appreciate all right talk with you again. When the publisher feeless ledger and her ladies senatorial is. Maybe it's time to recall the city councilwoman for that district with iran. I think i'm i'm figuring out what's going on john and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt and ken. Chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Would you spend a half an hour talking with allison cohen. Who is the publisher of a newspaper in los villas. And she's come out for a recall on nitya rahman guess job felix ledger and nithi ramadan allowed this Absurd homeless encampment to morph into a drug running. Operation were gang members to gangs of have taken over the area and it it. It's just a mess and you know it's a pretty liberal area plus feels and the everybody maybe not this liberal no now. Let's see because this isn't liberal. This is these are the democrats socialists. They call them. These are anarchists. And that's the thing. I think they snuck in and i've heard this was the strategy to get people like george guests scone in and Chess about an up in san francisco and other district attorneys to portray them as something else. Well is to first of all target elections. That few people pay attention to and or few people vote in And then send up a stealth candidate who is going to be charming and smooth and does not betray what the real agenda is and people generally don't pay attention to two local council races they just don't ran as long as you check the boxes of being a good liberal democrat and you'll support the unions and give them their cut of the pie in a year. You're going to get in nobody. Nobody's gonna run against you and give you a hard time but these democratic socialists. And i i've actually read this in a couple of articles in the first time you read. It's like is that a conspiracy theory. is somebody. just you know. Just just With just over theorizing right right. It's real. I think this is really figured out how to do it. And they they pulled it off. They've they've gotten the district attorney's they want they've got the council people they want and a bonnin and nitya rahman and there's others they're hardcore. They really believe this. And it's it's that democratic socialist group is these these are crazy people they they they're anti-capitalism anti prison anti police. What have we been going through for the last year. That's why newsom is released. Seventy six thousand inmates earlier he he's saying he's going to do that. Seven and at the same time. Gascoyne is not putting anybody in prison for a long period of time anymore. Because they're anti prison their anti police. We've lived through that pro critical race theory. That is the central point ear. That everything about america is so racist and white. Supremacist that it. All has to be dismantled. The whole country is illegitimate. Our society is illegitimate. Our way of life is illegitimate so it has to be attacked and dismantled from all angles. So the homeless are running amok the gangs running amok. We're not prosecuting things anymore. We're going to let the prisoners out early. If any if anybody objects you scream racism at them you scream white. Supremacist at them. Even the teachers union is doing this free stuff for everybody. Taxes be damned equal distribution of wealth and ensuring that marginalized communities essentially everyone but white males are promoted to the front of the wine and This is this is all from lewis. Feeless ledger this is all from. Alison cohen's Tracking what the dsa is about and they. They've they've gotten into government and they've influenced other people in government and they're well well-financed. It's the group that fought. Mitchell farrell to clear out the los low-speed a clear out Echo park lake park lake. Yeah it's it's. It's the group that backs mike bonnet. And you know what else they got into. Got into the neighborhood councils again. Nobody pays attention to that. They show up I remember when When we were trying to fight the road diets that the bicyclist would show up the neighborhood council meetings and they would overwhelm the locals and then the newspapers would say the community is split or the community is in split. They just filled the place with these bike fanatics who were getting grants from the city to show up. They got grants from the city to finance their bike group in return they were asked to show up at the meetings to support the road diets. That baden and garcetti or pushing to sing thing here. These crazy people are showing up at local neighborhood council and city council meetings to start screaming racist white supremacist. Oh that's how they do it. Yeah and they did it and they did it now. Look what's happened look advantage. Look let's feeless. Look at what echo park lake was this movement as you described earlier is about infiltrating at whatever level. They can't like the la county da. George gascon. it's the same thing whether or not these people are card carrying members. They share the same ideology. And i think the movement the past couple of years is just get him in all positions. You can local governments. Yes on the ground. This is not paranoid. That's the word i was looking for before. This is not paranoia. This is an action. Yeah paranoid no now. You see happening in front of our eyes. Now see a few years ago. If we told you that this group was planning to do this. You'd say well that that's paranoid that's crazy. That's a conspiracy theory and that that's the problem a lot of time. You have to wait until things happen and now you have this huge mess. That's difficult to clean up because these people actually got power they're voting. They're deciding on what money is going to be spent in the budget years on this show and in fact we did a couple of times complain about the former city council for that district. Tom panch he passed away. But i think he banned silly string. We made fun of them. Used to always pick on zev yaroslavsky remember over the years some of these council members but now this whole different war when people like mike baden india rahman no those guys. This is really dangerous. Anti-capitalist anti police anti prison. I mean this is so over an of course pro homeless. If you wanna put it that house explain when you clean up these encampments in venice in los angeles. That are dangerous. When else are you but pro dangerous homeless. Yeah and somehow they. They collectively created a mood. Where if you criticise use. They scream white supremacy and racism and everybody's terrified and they run and they hide or they get very defensive odd not a white supremacist. I'm not a racist. Those debts shot upwards. It's jest to shut you up and intimidate you and scare you see you go away and let them their entire agenda is to ruin what we have. They say as much if you go to their websites you look at their videos. They say as much what we have was unfairly through evil means. we don't deserve it. We're we should not be allowed to keep it not our neighborhoods not our homes. Our way of life not our freedoms are money. None of it. I don't think people know what we're up against here the. That's this is the wakeup call. And i have a feeling even in that district which you rightly described as progressive democrat. This is too much. Because i liked. Allison but i sensed she was more along the lines of traditional los feeless type of constituent think of with sort of left leanings. But even she's waking up like this is so much the two guys two guys we had unfor- lost village a few weeks ago. Yeah them called them on housed. Yeah and they were really progressive. Guys i don't think they were natural listeners. To our show. And diane think so. I think that we're doing a lot of work on on these neighborhoods that are getting destroyed and and right now. Everybody's on the same side here does matter what your politics as everybody's on the same side. This is a choice between civilization and anarchy. We got more coming up. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Two quick stories to tell you the pandemic's over trader joe's is about to cut the thank you pay for its crew members by half. They were getting an extra four dollars an hour. They're probably going to cut it by half to two dollars an hour. The other story is that google and other tech companies kind of reversed. Course in terms of you can work from home where you can work remotely. Google announced a series of moves. Twenty percent of its staff would work from home a permanent basis. That's probably lower than we all thought a year ago when everybody ran from these buildings and hibernated and home or even far away just to get away from of their fears of covid twenty percent will shift to new offices but the remaining sixty percent are going to work from their current location and we always thought tech companies would be the one that would not adopt. Okay go back to the traditional. But if you're the one who's been assigned to the home you gonna be a little nervous little worried that the people who show up at the office every day are gonna get ahead on maker right. That's what i was thinking when i saw this. Yeah facebook's going to allow half its workforce to continue to work from home so the ambitious people are going to Go to work in the slugs. You're gonna stay on workout of their bed. I heard guy. I think he's a ceo zoom. Say that's enough. Even he's tired of zoom crap. That's that's hideous. Anybody who anybody ten zoom meetings a day probably ought to be ice skating stand still tuning into a few of the talk entertainment shows and they have the wall of heads zoom audience. Yeah it just looks dumb things done. I'd rather you just play sound effects if you have no audience. Pretend that instead of watching that stupid wall of heads. The wall of heads dim. Conway's zoom meetings is that everyone is so worried about what they look like that. Nobody listens to anything. That's going on in the meaning. Good point they worry about what. You're thinking of their background right. Yeah and you gotta clean up your house and make sure everything in the background because people take a snapshot of it and all of this guy's a book smart. But i've heard that yeah there are people who worry about about the books and what it says about them and how about the guys on. Tv that have the golden mike awards behind him either talking about the their reporters on tv home and then collection of awards. They got three or four gold. Mike's mike's udal yes. They don't mean anything. You're going to say that. I like it. They really don't. I mean honestly got you and you and ken. The three of us have zero. We have zero everything news people. Yeah nobody gives us any awards. Well i think they should expand it to more than just going to be in that radio hall of fame. Tim you know you by the way you guys got in right. No the whole thing. I you know we got we got beat up glenn beck o. That's horrible that's horrible right anyway. We might be back. Okay david say is coming on tonight. So as the dodgers stink petro's yeah man there that game last night and i forgot you start extra things with guy on second to go look guy on second avenue i will not even watch extra innings anymore. It is such a bogus artificial nonsense rule that i. That's it in my my head. The game ended tied. Yeah it's hard. It's off right because also the doubleheader this year is only seven innings right right and did you see the beauty of baseball. Sometimes if a game goes twenty one innings. That's right right. Plus guys like me. Who get off at ten. Have a chance to drive the stated milwaukee last five minutes you some of the favourite games i watched especially when i was a kid where the games are just went on forever. Oh yeah that's astros playoffs. Yes yes that was. That was sixteen innings. Remember for six hours since the entire time. Especially if you're on the east coast watching the mets play. The dodgers ten o'clock ten thirty anyway because until three thirty in the morning. Oh i used to love as a kid little kid listening to transistor radio in bed when the mets went out to play the dodgers. she's great. Imagine what california was like. Yeah then i got here. I imagine what jersey's like ding dong. Everybody crozier john. 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"John and ken show john kobylt ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Welcome everybody little later will be to go at. You wandered into a restaurant and order enchilada. That was joe's day and then what he went back home. Wanted to talk about the program to help restaurants that lost business because of the coronavirus pandemic and also. Because today's cinco de maya. We went to a mexican show l. Pandering ethnic pandering pretty much okay. But anyway he made some good slip-ups in a press conference yesterday. You ever hear of the. Do you go to the website. It's dot gov g. o. V. gov for government for some reason old joe kept saying dot com dot com it dot com dot com. Well that Should be a good one. We'll play that audio and have fun and biden ville coming up. We could add to our list Well big story. Few weeks back was echo park lake which had At least two hundred vagrants living in it for a long time and for some reason. The idiot said city council member Decidal affair mitchell. Farrell decided to get lapd to clear the place out and also it off and fix it up an offer them services shelter and mental health or drug addiction treatment and some people took it and others didn't but today the story is the crime has gone down. There's shockingly when you take two hundred vagrants adamant neighborhood fewer crimes. What are you hearing. Lapd figures hard to believe. So we're going to talk to riley montgomerie. Who's resident of echo park lake. We had him on during a supported. What was done there. Yeah during the big controversy. Because there's a there's a really nasty activist group that was trying to stop the park from being cleaned up by riley. How are you can hear me. Okay yeah how is life in a park lake these days. Well it's very interesting like you guys. Said shockingly after Transitioning the people from the encampment into housing at the la grand hotel crime has gone down significantly. Which is Who could have thought such a thing could be possible. Yeah i'm stunned myself. Yeah hotel far away no no. It's not far away The the elegant hotels in downtown la. And it's one of the many places that mitchell farrell housed. Everyone who was at the lake house people at the the nest which is a project funded project home key. Forty run rooms there. And he's got his thirty eight rooms at the tiny home projects and alvarado street that he's working on and seventy three spaces at a safe sleep pilot site that he just opened up these Doing the the terrible terrible work of housing. Everyone and could imagine such a thing. Yeah it's it's pretty shocking. How many people are still wandering around the neighborhood who didn't take up to take up. You'll farrell's various offers. Well there's definitely a lot of people a lot of homeless people around. But i think it's very insignificant compared to what it was before it That what we're talking about was the Easter article that just came out talking about the crime has gone down. Listen to this this is from mitchell. Farrell's office directly after they cleaned out the lake. The city staff identified thirty pounds of sharks including hypodermic needles. Four hundred pounds of biological waste and forty three tonnes of solid ways. That's it that's the garbage. Just what they found so far at echo park lake. Forty three tonnes. Yep that's right from actual farrell's office himself. Forty three eighty six thousand pounds of garbage holy. Yeah so to anyone. That's claiming that it's safer for homeless people to stay at the lake. I think they're living pretty good at the la grain hotel right now and it's deeper for house dan on house. That's the way now. That's an environmental disaster. Exactly in environmental disaster. And that's what it was. This report says that in the month of march alone. There were three assault with a deadly weapon. Rob bring a burglary within a quarter mile of a boat house there and now things have largely calmed down. That seems to be. How do people feel around there. Yeah i think how citizens That live around. The laker are gratified and relieved that the crime has gone down. You know the lapd is actually ship patrol cars to other areas with higher crime for the first time in the last ten years simply because there's less crime happening at the park and i think everyone is relief for that. We're those annoying activists Down well they come around once a week put up signs on the fence. They don't really do too much other than trying to get people fired from their jobs for standing out and talking about this. They're still doing that. They're still doing it. Wow the timelines for the park. do we know. Now it's going to stay. We don't have months to. We don't have an idea yet. obviously there's a lot of damage that has to be repaired. You know there's half a million dollars in damage to the lake because of being kampman damaged under the grass the trees to all the wildlife that lives there and we can only hope there will only cost half a million dollars and that it won't continue to go up in price. I mean you can imagine when it finally reopens gotta hope these people. Don't try to come back. Yeah that's what we're worried about because obviously getting enforcement it's tough because groups like the dsa ground game l. a.'s. Rewatch la oppose it. You know even though announced people die on the street they die in our encampments in our lakes. Live era here Parties use the park right now either because are still working on repairing it. So you're hoping when it reopens. It'll be like it was in the old days. You just gotta work in your head that these people are coming back right. I know there's a large A very significant Elderly population that lives in a senior center of the park and they had become paralyzed with fear for going from going outside their own complex. This is what makes me crazy. Most people don't want this if not all all the people in town get together this thing that end in five minutes. Nobody's saying hell hostage by a bunch of crazy. People advocating for another bunch of crazy people. It says tackle goes to show is if people get together and they say hey. We're not okay with this. Tell the city to do their job. That's what we didn't echo park. What we got together through my petition over five thousand people signed it and we said we're not okay with this when we first the politicians in our area to do something. Yeah i mean what is it about. This situation compare is in every council district and a lot of neighborhood groups exist and they're signing petitions and they're demanding meeting and nothing happens like. Why do you think mitchell farrell. Listen to you when nobody else's what was their thinking especially the moment or a specific person that somebody really powerful finally weighed in. Yeah that's not the case. There's no one really powerful and echo park. we're just a group of middle class citizens. I think mitchell feral just has Limit well he has more. I don't wanna say He has more balls than mike. Bonnin does that is willing to do what it tastes like riley for the very good absolutely hope is continues for the residents of echo park absolutely. That's riley montgomerie was on our show a couple of months ago about the terror of echo park lake two hundred homeless campers. They're finally the la city council for the district mitchell. Farrell said. we're gonna go in there and clear it out. Fence it off. Clean it up and what are you know. Crime has gone down. Significantly will turn our attention to not far away. Los feeless when we come back. We spent some time on this story to with this homeless encampment in the neighborhood has been taken over by drug dealing gang members coming up john and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six forty five everywhere on the iheartradio app now. We were busy month and in march talking about these homeless encampments. We just talked about echo. Park lake where remarkably crime is down more than a month after they removed all the vagrants from inside the park and closed off. And here's the thing that that has to be remembered for those of you that fight your stupid councilman stupid politicians. These idiot activists the amount of garbage and filth. They took out of echo park lake. I looked up that mitch. O'farrell press release from a few weeks ago. They found in echo park lake after they cleared out the homeless four hundred pounds of poop. Four hundred pounds of human poop and eighty six thousand pounds of garbage eighty six thousand pounds of garbage and thirty pounds of needles and other sharp objects and and that's a beautiful park with a lake. A gorgeous setting. That's what that crowd did. It and crime is for that park. That means you have a bunch of criminals who who who left four hundred pounds of their feces in that beautiful park and dragged in eighty six thousand pounds of what their possessions good fertilizer though or eventually yeah you can gross. Yeah you go over to the most students. We spent some time on this story a few weeks ago. In fact we through a city councilwoman in the dumpster nydia rahman because she was not responding to community concerns about a homeless encampment. In a neighborhood in los feeless which this is berendo street in. Hollywood are very dangerous because people are claiming it's full of drugs and gang members. Here's the story from. Abc sevens rob hayes berendo street in hollywood boulevard. When we visited the las villas intersection little more than two weeks ago. It looked like this tents tarps and trash city officials promised to clean it up. I believe as if this morning almost the entire encampment has gone. Every ten has been removed. I believe there's one ten still standing but only councilmember nitya rahman though there are clearly fewer tents the encampment is far from don and the residents. Who live on the block. Say they are far from safe. Operable going to work knowing that their street and my broken into four times now. Residents here are so scared. They won't show their faces on camera and we had the disguised their voices. That's because lapd says this encampment is actually a street gang. Run drug dealing hub. We have made just in the last thirty days arrests for guns narcotics Narcotics felony warrants senior lead officer lee. A racist one gang member has been holed up here since late last summer. Selling drugs during the day sleeping at a nearby motel at night and what's frustrating to some people is how the city is dealing with that accused. Drug dealer not only. Did they replace his own tent with this brand new shelter but they also provide a restroom right over there. It is cleaned every day. Monday through friday as a police officer i. I've never encountered anything like this. In my twenty five year history meantime residents of the block our afraid to go near the corner and they watch gang members tag their properties. What the same security cameras catching gunshots. When drug deals scope residents frustrated that the city doesn't realize the people behind the lawlessness. Here are not innocent. Une housed victims looking homeless councilmember rahman acknowledges that a criminal element exists within this encampment. It says her office has to let lapd handle that aspect as for the true homeless here. Rama's he just can't move them without a place to move them to be able to transition people into interim and long term housing solutions that are really going to be effective at keeping people out of homelessness on long term basis. Just don't have those resources available to us. And i'm literally clawing them from the system. So why are drug dealers behind bars. Officer ray says because of the pandemic people charged with non violent crimes are released the same day and believe it or not police can't just barge into a tent or a tarp or a box even start seizing drugs. We need a search warrant to answer one of these home. It's a structure. A structure paid for by tax. Public sidewalk allegedly used to sell drugs. We as from channel seven. That's unbelievable you pay for a new tent and bathroom for a drug dealer. We painted the search warrant at when he's lying there on. Public property sleeps in a motel and a tarp attend. He sleeps in a motel at night and during the day is day job as he's running a drug den out of the tent. We paid for the tent. We paid for his bathroom across the street. We can't go into the tent that we paid for where he's selling drugs without a search warrant are an iffy rahman says that. There's no place to send the homeless mitch. Mitchell farah found a place for them he here two hundred of them you. She's lying she's a liar. She's disgrace what they'll say. This is the gaining of that story where she lied to the reporter. She told raw pace. Oh i believe that's gone that's been cleared out. But he goes no real here. It's been downsized a little bit. But there's still a significant number of encampments. Play that beginning line again. We're here's an outright lie. She is he's just trying to get rid of them with that boy she awful and he goes no councilwoman. Rahman that's not nice. Nice live nitya rahman. Oh my god and every everybody's in everybody's scared inside their homes and there's a school across the street that again ready to hear her. Why grieve as if this morning. Almost the entire encampment has is gone. Every ten has been removed. I believe there's one tenth still standing but what a stinking liar gusting. Honestly we got more coming at you. Get out of the dumpster. John and ken. Kfi really welcome you to the rest. Home of old joe. Welcome to bite and ville everyone all created by go. You know the thing you know. We have to come together. That's why running. I'm running as a proud democrat for the senate terrorists took. It took hers today. For the same reason i was a democratic caucus alaister effective strategy to mobilize sure oppressor. Donald trump seeks rock. And i think it's a right for people have atika terms dog dogfish pony shows by the way jill. I've always enjoyed chiasson. I should stay together on the trail for secretary of health and education. I nominated hobby are career president harrison. I took a virtual tour vaccination center in arizona. My my guy who runs and outfit over here now to give you a tour of biden village before your extended stay ears. Johnny jackson belts. Ken shimpo here in the minnow. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. It's a pleasant day on the bench. You know every time we visit biden villas looks like we can just add more sound to that desk. Yeah because it seems every time he goes out there even if he's reading from the teleprompter he has trouble. This was yesterday and this was his announcement that by july fourth. We're going to get seventy percent of adults with at least one shot in the arm. That was his big goal. Hundred sixty million americans to be fully vaccinated by july fourth and seventy percent to have one shot in the arm and he was trying to promote how easy it is now get a vaccine no appointments etcetera etcetera pharmacies participating all over the country. We'll play this clip. Where apparently gets a little trouble with websites and with other things he tried to say. That's why i'm asking people to continue to fall. Ccd guy cdc guidelines as we work to get more more people vaccinated. I'm most americans have a vaccination site about as close as houses near to a neighborhood school. We're also going to slip vaccines directly to to pediatricians ship. Them to pediatrician during the following weeks. We're gonna make it easier than ever to get vaccinated visit vaccines dot com dot gov vaccines dot com or text to text your zip code. Two four three eight to nine now. There's a lot of misinformation out there. But there's one fact people who are not fully vaccinated can still die every day from covid nineteen because the folks in your community have gotten vaccinated getting back to living their lives for such energy trouble with dot gov dot people were joking. There's vaccine gum. You can take the vaccine in a gum. Now he said debt dot com twice. He did and then he was giving recommendations from the ccd the ass and then he said we slipped vaccines to pediatricians instead shipped slips them made it sound like it in their pocket to something illegal. He you know what i've noticed too. He is is a very closed. He squint salat. I think some ninety two cents trouble. Picking the words on the teleprompter. Because he's always squinting staying awake. I'm i look at them sometimes. Like open your eyes. They're always like you know. Well maybe should be wearing glasses. I seventy eight. Most people's eyes go to hell when you're seventy eight. Yeah do you think he has contacts. Or i don't know he should be squinting clearly should be getting lasix. Dr anger call their steps screening. So much exactly. Yeah well. there's old joe with another announcement. One of my other favorite stories dealing with the same kinds of topic deals with the governor of new york. Our friend andrew cuomo andrew cuomo of course is facing an investigation into sex harassment. He's also and has been long in trouble. Because of the deaths in the nursing homes and the nursing home policy last year that led to the deaths. I think was thousands right of elderly. Oh yeah resident. Many many of this policy he sent nine thousand infected patients into the nursing homes nine thousand and it was it was a written directive that he had up on the website and then he covered it up and raced it from the website and he covered it up because he didn't want to get in the way of his book that he was selling where he proclaimed himself the great Covert fighter and they gave me a leave it to the daily caller to come up with this thought that andrew komos nursing home equity cost new york state house of representatives seat. Do you know when they were finally done tallying. The census new york missed by eighty-nine people. Yes i saw. Thousands died in the nursing home so put two and two together there and they could've held onto the seat if he hadn't killed those nursing residents not only killed all those nursing home residents he'd killed a congressional seat all by himself and did you. Did you see what he said today. He actually had the nerve today. He was yelling at people for not getting vaccinated. Saying you might go home and kiss your grandmother and wind up killing your grandmother like you did times thousands. How many grandma's did you kill cuomo. He doesn't shut up does he. He just pretends that nothing happened. You already killed a bunch of grandma's cuomo you did yourself. I know i. You might kill your grandma with a kiss. You might kill a lots of grandma's by setting infected covid patients their homes. They're still pressing that message. Even though a very significant number of people over sixty five of vaccinated. That's the one good thing that's come out of this and why it is. Death rates have dropped so dramatically like you said before it doesn't matter that much with the young people are doing when it comes to hospitalizations and deaths it matters. What the old folks or the people with all these underlying conditions right. There's those are the two classes that account for nearly all the deaths the elderly and people with certain health conditions and they which conditions like diabetes obesity heart disease on and on so those are the two categories those are the two categories of people to protect and everybody else should have been allowed to live. But we're run by dumb clocks talks. And they're still doing stupid things del. We got more coming up. John and ken. Kfi and john. And ken show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Oh pack four o'clock hour coming. We'll start by finding out more about this appeal by derek chauvin. The police officer convicted in fact several murder counts and the death of george floyd in minneapolis. And it does deal with the jury. We know one juror in particular. We'll be under scrutiny. For saying he did not go to any rallies or marches. What he was photographed with well wearing a tee shirt looking like he was part of a big event. We'll get to that with marmalade. Abc news for kfi after kfi news. At four o'clock. Well this story. You know how some people will donate their dead body to science. Yes you think. It's so they can analyze the brain. Right maybe look at the organs may be something could come of it for science in the future. What if you did that all they did instead was. Lay your body down and measured your penis against your nose. Japanese researchers claim that men who have large noses do tend to pack bigger male organs. Great i knew this all along. They examined the bodies of one hundred and twenty six recently deceased middle aged men measuring from the cadavers height and weight to the circumference and length of their flaccid members. My nose is a little big as i know. Rather smarter pants and proven to kick. Ken is always mocked me for having largesse have yes. Oh i drop them. Let's see dribbling aggressive. Geez doing the name of science ugly dead yet. That's the operative word for you. Were shy i am. I'm over here. You're over there a window dividing us. This bizarre for the study. Scientists approximated the measurements of the subjects manhood when at full attention full staff by laying each of the bodies down in extending the penis up as high as it would go then. They compared the results to the length of their noses. They found that men with two point. Two inch snouts packed larger penises that clocked in an approximately five point three inches long so they let rigor mortis set in and meanwhile corpses that had smaller noses. Let's say one point eight inches. Generally their manhood was at four point one inches so big nose big. That's saying there seems to be so it's got nothing to do with the hand on this consistent with all hundred twenty six dead bodies remember. Trump was showing off his hands. Jerem one other thing that was supposed to be the hands for that. That's the nose. Yeah two myths over the years hands does. It's not your big toe no well. It's no myth. They found no link between the size of the man's nose and the length of his flaccid member but when they launched it out that's when they found now. Well i'm not donating my body to science. That's what they're doing saying. What are these guys. Men are growers. Were show this was the big pressing medical issue. After somebody's donated their body. Japanese researchers had to know right jab these researches. Okay it's an odd little fetish. They had there and because it was only limited to dead japanese males. They may have to do more research in more countries. I see too yeah. you're right. Penis previous studies have linked pena sized everything from a person salary to the to the size discrepancy between the index. And ring fingers. I remember that one to remember that one. yes. I remember measuring that as well. Oh you're into all of these studies i remember. We were measuring our is on the air at that. There was something about whether or not they're close in size versus figure. Yeah okay. I think that turned out well to if i remember right. You're very proud of yourself. Obviously when we go back mark remillard will be here. Tell us more about the appeal from derek. Chauvin legal team in minneapolis requesting a new trial. That's the man that was convicted of murdering george. Floyd drop them. John and ken show. 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00:00 sec | 2 years ago

The Sedano Show [hr4]

"Kirk. It's here. Yes. I want people to get in on this conversation. We're having earned the break. But before that we were just talking about it with you mean, Bill Plaski and windy bringing the fire telling people how it is. And you look at the comments on my Instagram and my Twitter. Yeah. Is it just me getting pretty clear when horses a Laker hater, he's just telling you the truth. Yeah. And enough said this before you really wanna know how. Everyone out there who's got children and their kids. Right. We all think that our kids are bailed apples of our is. We love the, but you go outside of their people. Tell you how they really feel about your children. I'm telling kids who play sports and things like that. We all all my son is the best or daughter. She's out there soccer door. And if you like know his son is really not that good. You know, what I'm saying is just you hold your children too high for steam, we all the Lakers at a high for like trust me. I like the Lakers brand, right? As a as a warriors fan. That's the one thing that up always admired about the Lakers to brain the years in which the success crowning. It's the crown jewel of the NBA. It is. And that's and that's great. But I feel that some people out there are furred Laker fans. Don't understand that for right now. The last six years has have not been good like you are not a good basketball team right now. And when people tell you that you don't say all we'll look at banners. And this for right now, this is what it hurts right now. And I want you to remember right now that it hurts when the successes come back around us that much suite. Of course, it's that much. We we had to go through six years of not making the playoffs. So that when you have that success? I think LEGO fans will now appreciate it a lot more because you've been spoiled. Yeah. You've been spoiled through show Tanya through the magic was on here. The other day said the same thing that you just said I'm trying to remember who that was man. But you're right. It was former athletes. Yeah. You get you get spoiled to a point where this is all, you know, it's the same thing that we talk about now with the Boston sports scene right to high Boston sports. You get a championship. You know? Whether it's the patriots or socks that just beat the dodgers. You know what I'm saying? Or you mentioned the Celtic ruins. You know what I mean to stop Boston Boston-based? Telling me that before we get to the raiders, and what Jon Gruden sane and sleep was going to come in here. In the next time. We have sleep reminder Lakers talk with Alin sleep was coming up right after this shell starting at seven pm Lakers. My Lexus outta Monica until iota Santa Monica problem. Members of the L A car guy family of dealerships. So you, and I were talking about restaurants like, we were talking might you into barbecue place. What blood so let's those. Yes. And you thought it was out of control. It's amazing. Yeah. So amazed. Okay. I love talking about food on this show. Clearly as you heard because there's people out there that can help us though. Oh, yeah. For sure. So I was saying like, you know, like, I I've lived in LA for a number of years. I had a previous stint here, and I've been in and out of town a million times over the years. And you know, when you always ask people like Mexican places, I mean, everyone's got their own little pockets, right, right? But you always like oh CASA Vega Vega. You gotta go to school like it. Don't get me wrong. But like can you someone else recommend me like a legit cool Mexican restaurant? They ain't gonna pay a million dollars for trying to go authentic authentic. But they've got drinks too. Okay. I don't want. I can't just go to like, the mom and pop place that don't have drinks. I need to our hall to go with this breed on its akilah aside. L Elserino, right? I mean, we love we love thereto. But I'm saying we just said, mom and pop. Mom, mom and pop. No. You know, what you're going when you get there? But so does I don't every corner. Right. Right. Right. So I want mom and pop I want and call in if you'd like or tweet us or whatever Instagram or whatever, but I want like mom-and-pop with alcohol. Okay. Mic Margaritas or or like, you know, just beers. Whatever I need like a real bar. Okay. Not just not just can get like a bottle of beer because they sell it. You know, what I'm saying like on a real bar? Chantey? Yeah. They got the. But I'm saying I want I want variety. You know what I'm saying? So what you told me a place in Playa vista? That was that was fire, but it wasn't authentic. But it was a nice little restaurant. Okay. Mexican sole SOL. Right. I went over there. I went with mother-in-law for birthday went over there. Food was slamming fire. You know, when they bring out the, you know, the cook the Karna saadah right there on table saw. Right. Neg on me. Yeah. You know? I like that. So Erwin tweets me right now, salsa and beer north Hollywood. He says spot Sawssen beer that. Just sounds good. That's cool. I'm down with that. You know what? I mean. You know, Richard is on the one ten what Richard. Hey, you got done. I got a recommendation is not really mom and pop, but it's really good. It's gala gets on Olympic boulevard in K town. And now, okay. Hawkins food. Oh, okay. From what? Authentic walking. And they got a really good selection of Miscou to okay? Now, you're talking my language right down on Olympics right through that. So that's right down the street ads right down the street premiered. Mason in Burbank. Mason go, whoa. Next. Next time you go. You gotta do salt and beer. You can't get a reservation. You can't get in the door. It's amazing food and they have a full bar. North Hollywood to salsa beer what? Hey tweets being says Ernie's taco house near universal. Yeah. Because I want the mom and pop, and I want the the drinks like I don't want Ainhoa rather vague. I'm just saying like I've been there. Okay. Just trying to the numerous affi- exactly the portfolio on the one one. Talk arena in Sherman oaks. They also have one in Hollywood and other places. Great, great, burritos and good beer. Okay. Cactus as a recommendation heard that one. Big busy tweets me L Coyote on Melrose pretty good and says show, I've been Jolo chose fine. Head more of it. It's more of a little bit of a chain. Around here. I've been a solo. Yeah. Okay. Last one. And then we'll get to the raiders will in LA. We'll what up. What's going on George? Also in beer in all thought. It was good. But you gotta try Lord in Carson, brother. It's right down the street from that where the galaxy play stadium of center. Yeah. That if it's got okay. Are if you show up you're gonna you're gonna get hammered. There you go. I need you saying, right. In just to top it off Friday night and Saturday night. The also have a Maserati. You can't go wrong with that. But sweet thank you. We'll show spot up over days in Torrance. Carson are no good. Or some you need just need to talk to your Mexican neighbors. Okay. Because they have a lot of parties and great food. Friday Saturday tomorrow night, though Pesca though, real quick before we get to sleep was coming in the next. Let's talk raiders real quick. Jon Gruden says Derek Carr is their guy career. He's their quarterback. However, they are also going to go to the workouts and workout kinda Murray and Dwayne Haskins. Right. Is that subterfuge? Is that Gruden just playing people or is that Gruden legitimately thinking about maybe drafted one of those guys and thinking about them for the future, maybe sitting them like what's the angle there? I mean, the angle is putting everything on a table. And when I say everything on the table when this off season started, you say how can we get this football team better? We have draft picks which they already have three first rounders. Okay. Then you go out to say who who do we have on our team and our big assets. Well, their car who nice little contract. He's got. But if there's an offer for Derek Carr, do you trade, Derek Carr? But remember to just a preface both quarterbacks have already had pro days have already thrown away and Haskins and column or so these are what we call the individual private workouts team just want to get a little bit. Maybe they like him, but you can have a private workout in really fall in love with him. And this is this is right commonplace for teams drafting in the top team. Right. What I mean like teams? Hey, get a private workout. And you probably go out there to see what they can do. But if you're wild away if you're like, wow. This guy's is Dwayne Haskins column ary. Okay. We gotta draft them. And they're there you also give the allusion to other teams as well. That the that the raiders are interested. Now, if another team falls in love, they gotta jump the raider. Right. So all of a sudden you're playing the show game. Again. It's just it's just part of the game is good. And that's this is part of the game. What you do you? Make sure you cross all your TS dot your is. This is part of the process to make people feel a little uncut. Trouble. Get a little nervous possibly the raiders at four could take a quarterback. That's what you want in this draft. Because you know, San Francisco's not taking a quarterback. We believe the New York Jets aren't taking a quarterback. So number two number three aren't taking quarterbacks and possibly possibly AirAsia doesn't take a quarterback. I one is still a possibility. I know they've got Josh Rosen. But the first three teams don't necessarily have to take a quarterback raiders are on there. And if people feel that, you know, a lot's going on high come draft because actually George right now, actually we are less than one month from the draft. Yeah. Is twenty fifth at five pm here on the west coast. That's when address start so we are less than a month away. I we're back in three minutes with sleep. Woah, Slee was going to come in here. And give us what he's got going on with Lakers talk. That's next y'know shut to everybody. Who tweeted me, all these great restaurants Mexican restaurants. Frank. Alvarez has show the eastside some love Majles. I listen, I was I used to live in Pasadena man for a minute. So more than a minute. So I was you know out there in the San Gabriel valley regularly and in that general region. So thank you to everybody who sent out their best mom and pop Mexican restaurant recommendation Slee was here sleep. What you got a spot where I am. I'm in like that Silverlake Los feeless area. Not that many good taco shop's out there, really they got they got. Got. Area. They got they got great food. Yeah. Thai food. There's actually a really really good Mexican shop. But it's like more much more Americanized. So it's all a lot of Egan dishes say that Kirk but nothing like true true authentic. They got good restaurants there, but I wouldn't say true authentic. Decent little place that serves Cuban food in silver lake that ELS E L code Janito. Very good. It's got. I mean, it's I mean, it's more like the San we not knowing what? Sandwiches, legit the Cuban sandwiches. Legit. It's the only legitimate sandwich. I've had here. Okay. So that plays legit l L coaching ITO, which means little pig. So anyway, sleep while Lonzo ball. I started the show kurkin. I started this show talking about how it feels like he's kind of grown up here where he's taken the reins of his own life. And be like, you know, what I'm the star. I'm the breadwinner, my control what's going on here. I can't leave things in you guys hands your dad or whoever else is there because clearly things working, right? And clearly, they're stealing my money. So I gotta take control my life. And I actually think for everybody was cranking out jokes today about what's going on with the ball family or the last couple of days. I commend the young man for taking control and taking the reins of his own life. You know, unfortunately, he's been every time. You talked about Lonzo ball since he was drafted. There's all these side stories either. It's okay, lavar ball, or it's the triple be brand. By the way, you know what they did. And what they try to do whether it ends up failing or not, and I think it will fail. It's it's also. Cool to watch something. That's never happened before. Nobody's ever took a chance to do what they obviously tried lonzo's twenty one years old. They love him in the locker room lake offense. There's a ton of lake offense that I think show a lot of supports Alonzo ball. They wanna see him be successful. Unfortunately, there's stuff that go. You know, obviously off the court. Hopefully, this is Lonzo away to kind of clean clean his hands. You get into the summer. Get your body. Right. Forget all that other stuff that the side noise that's been going on. And you could just focus on basketball. Lebron's really wrapped his arm around. You know, I think Lonzo right now, we're gonna see more of that. We're gonna see more of I think it some temptation buildings go on throughout this off season. You know with LeBron coups MMA heart Ingram, I mean, you LeBron has to be here committed in LA. I think last year was a bit different because he couldn't win a lebrons arrive in LA Lascher, George. Remember, it was after free free agency happen he signed in anyone on this. Slaw? Europe. And then he finally came then he started doing some things. But I think he has to commit himself to Los Angeles this off season. And I can't believe we've almost went in almost four hours on his show. And we never even talked about LeBron James had another triple double last night. Lakers beat Sacramento, they don't matter anymore. It doesn't matter. But you saw you saw some glimpses last night of like, Dr they look like, it's no see we saw earlier in the like if you had more time you like mail like last night against the kings and kings of finally started slump. But still though you saw the glimpses of man this team had everything stayed on track. This was a playoff team. And I think you hit something that's very important. They haven't really built any continuity. None. I mean, coach let's use Luke as an example. He was on the hot seat before the season even started yet was never any comfort level coach. None the young players. You coulda gone two months. Three months. All the conversation was what team are you gonna trade them to? That literally was most of the conversations like you're referencing here. Can they go into an off season where it's not just one year deals players feel like they're going to be here for four five years three years? Whatever the case is that's how that's how you Bill teams. That's how you that's how it's sustainable. I guess you could say build a team, basically, just build something. I'm not saying you can't have a couple of guys on one years or whatever this that and the other. But right, you're going to be putting people in a very difficult position again. And by the way, stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Right. Just sign players were more complimentary to what LeBron James is games. I think start there. That's as simple as yeah, they probably outsmart themselves with a lot of those signings. And listen they'll say they'll keep saying every single post game. Obviously, the injuries were big part of it. But this season it just seemed like nothing went right for the Lakers. That's why that's why George you don't care that LeBron had a triple double yesterday at second kings. Because it technically technically doesn't mean anything it doesn't matter anymore there. Out there done he's over. But magic one at tough guys. You know, I want tough guys I want guys around the rim and you need shooting in this league. And so I wanna see the way that the playoffs kinda happened a little bit. You know, how they start to evolve a little bit and see where the Lakers have to draw from certain teams now. Sure. So now you're actually watching the playoffs. There's a story line the scout. Now, you're scouting tomorrow against the wizards Bradley Beal will be the story as in their players Lakers are facing on a game in game out basis that are either unprotected, you know, their unrestricted free agents or their protect whatever the case is that becomes a storyline. Because all that matters. Now is what you're going to do in the off season. Yeah. It's pretty crazy, man. I it's it's while I would have never my while dreams thought they'd be in this situation. Never what you guys think of Jason Kidd interview today on the jump. I mean, he's I've been saying this for weeks. He's been lobbying for the job is very obvious. My thing is it's with any coach coaches. When they when they wanna be seeing they'll be seen and any goes with, you know, Jason Kidd. I finally saw Steve Alford come from out of the woodwork over to help saying when coaches wanna be seen. They know how to be seen in the timing. Tommy like all the jobs are starting to open up the season. They can't come out during the season. But when the end of the season now, everybody's available. It's funny how that works out. And it's funny. They all just come out of the woodworks. Is it time yet? Okay. It's time. Are here we go and jockeying for position Steve Alford earlier, I wouldn't to do. I had three freshman commit a crime in in coach that like it was given a response is a why he's not the coach at UCLA. What what are you gonna Lakers talk tonight? We'll talk a really just kind of big picture about the offseason talk about some of this coaching stuff and Trudell join at eight thirty that down making that, hey, here's must be sleeping revere right now. He's living ease living good. Oh, good for him. Yeah. No doubt. Lakers talk with sleeves coming up next Kirk. Thank you so much. I'll talk to you tomorrow. Yes, sir. All right. We'll talk to your mouth.

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The Manson Family

Killer Knowledge

28:43 min | 1 year ago

The Manson Family

"In the nineteen sixties were a decade of divisiveness and change while some protested peacefully Charles Manson and his followers made sure. This era of counterculture ended in bloodshed the summer summer of sixty nine is now forever synonymous with the Manson family murders. Welcome to kill her knowledge. A park cast original. I'm Kara Roy. And it's time to learn some true crime history as two players go head to head. In this twenty question Trivia podcast every episode we cover a new topic like the headline making Zodiac murders shocked. The Nation violent mobsters like John Gotti who gun their way to the top up in serial killer. Ted Bundy who craved notoriety. This week we're looking back at the Manson family murders that resonated beyond the California hippie culture joining me today are two very special guests ready to show off their incredibly deep. True crime expertise hosts of multiple multiple. PODCASTS here on the park network. Greg Poulsen and Vanessa Richardson. Are you ready to face off. YEA drags trepidation. You our listeners. Play along as we find out who has killer Hiller Knowledge Greg Vanessa. Welcome to the show will get into the Trivia in just a minute but first before we start. Let's remind our listeners listeners. You can play along with more episodes of killer knowledge and find other par- cast originals on spotify. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. We also want to hear from. Can you our listeners. Leave US review wherever you're listening and reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and on twitter at podcast network Greg and Vanessa. Let's lay off the rules of killer knowledge for you and our podcast listeners. There will be twenty multiple choice questions. ABC broken up into three rounds. Fair warning the questions will get more difficult as the game. Plays on a correct answer you. The point for that question and incorrect answer gives the other player the chance to get it right greg. If you buzz and I will hear this sound Vanessa your buzzer sounds like this and one player will be eliminated in round two to while the other will move on to play for some amazing prizes including the park asked golden headphones. Make sense to you. Yes okay let's play killer knowledge here we go with round one for this first round. The questions will follow the story of how a young Charles Manson developed developed into the cult leader. We know today a Manson had a rough childhood. He was born in Nineteen thirty four to a sixteen year old runaway mother in Cincinnati. atty Ohio and a father who was a well known local con artist from Kentucky after being in and out of a boys school in Indiana Manson eventually found himself. Living with an aunt and uncle truancy became an issue for young Charles. But it wasn't long before things got more serious. Manson got caught stealing from his uncle on Christmas Miss Day in nineteen forty seven when he was just thirteen years old. Here's question number one. What did Manson get caught stealing stealing a money? Be A gun. C- Cigarettes Vanessa. I believe it was a gun. You are correct gun. It was after that incident. Manson was returned to the boys school but he ran away. Way again okay. So we're often running Vanessa. One Greg Zero after running away from school this time. Manson got involved with a group of petty criminals. On this is when his own criminal record would begin so for question number two. What did Charles Manson I get arrested for? As a child a arson be assault see burglary. We have a taker with Vanessa I'm I'm going to say is I was burglary. Burglary is the right answer at the time. He was with a friend's uncle when the police caught them. Eh Grocery store in Illinois at thirteen years old. He was then sent to the very strict. Indiana boys. School Vanessa with two points Greg at zero. While at the Indiana Boys School Manson claimed he was severely bullied and assaulted in response. He developed a Defense Mechanism Zim in which he would screech and wave his arms to scare off his attackers for question number three. What did young Charles Manson call his his defense tactic a the insane game? Be the bully game. See The screaming Game Greg. A The insane game now. Manson was Small Mall as a boy Even as an adult many believed he was somewhere between five two and five six top. So as a very short skinnier child Charles hoped the insane game name would give him leverage and convince anyone trying to attack him that he was crazy and would leave him alone right. Greg is on the board so it is now two to one in favor of Vanessa. You won't be surprised to hear that Charles eventually escaped the Indiana boys school with some other kids. They were eventually caught in a stolen car in Utah. Sixteen year old Charles. Manson was attempting to make his way to California which we know he would do years later. But from nineteen fifty one to nineteen sixty one. Manson would end up in prison multiple times from juvenile detention centers to maximum security facilities. But he didn't didn't waste his time in jail. In nineteen sixty one. Twenty six year old Manson would find himself imprisoned in McNeil Island Washington on. That's where he learned to play an instrument from famous depression. Era Gangster. Alvin creepy carpets. Here's question number over four. What instrument did he learn to play in prison? A PIANO BE- Guitar See. See Her Monica Vanessa. Guitar Guitar is correct. It is now three to one Vanessa. Charles Manson also educated himself in other ways as while he was locked up in Washington he reportedly spent one hundred fifty hours studying a religion before deciding. It was too crazy for him for question number. Five what religion did Charles Manson reportedly spent one hundred fifty hours studying a Christian science dance be mormonism see scientology. Vanessa's in there. See Scientology Scientology. Is the right answer. It's believed Manson studied scientology from cellmate in McNeil Island. It's even been reported that. He declared himself a scientologist in the summer of nineteen sixty one but in reality was never an official member. After auditing the religion story goes he declared it to crazy. So we now stand at Vanessa. Four Greg Won. But don't worry Greg. There is a long way to go. Even though Manson was still imprisoned prison in Washington a popular urban legend says that in nineteen sixty five. He auditioned to join a popular rock band. Here's question number six. What influential sixties rock band did Manson allegedly want to join a the beach? Boys be the monkeys. See The doors Greg. The beach boys a that. That is incorrect. Okay Miss the door for you. You can guess I I it would the doors also incorrect. Oh go ahead to be monkey. Is the monkeys those the Rupert Band monkees member. Micky Dolenz confessed. It was a joke. He made that got interpreted as fact the rumor was also debunked since Manson was still serving time in nineteen sixty five. So the point tally. Ali Doesn't change for Greg One now. In March nineteen sixty seven. At thirty two years old Charles Manson would be released from prison and finally make his way to California but he had one request before being released question number seven. What was Manson's request before being released A? He wanted to stay in prison be he wanted his record cleared saying he wanted his cellmate released to greg a he wanted to stay in prison. A is the correct answer. He wanted to stay in prison since by this time he had spent more than half his life behind bars. It made his prison cell feel more like home than any place. He knew. Okay with that Greg now has two point. Sodas four to two in favor of Vanessa. Well we now know Charles Manson the earlier so as we bring this round close. Let's transition from prison to freedom in California after being released Manson made his way to San Francisco. Right as the summer of Love was starting on the hippie culture at the time boded well for Manson's unconventional lifestyle and love of hallucinogenic drugs. And he began attracting attracting groupies soon. He was pushing religious philosophies on them so for question number eight which spiritual figure did several followers followers soon compare to Charles Manson a Jesus. Christ be the Dalai Lama see Mohammed Vanessa. Jesus Christ a just that is right. Jesus Christ is right. Manson began talking about the end of the world and the judgement of humanity which only I pushed their comparisons to Jesus more so it is now five to do in favor of Vanessa soon. Manson and his family of six women move towards Los Angeles Settling in various areas. This is when Manson's interest in being a singer. Songwriter comes into play but for question number nine which member of the the beach boys did they meet and move in with for a summer. A Dennis. Wilson B Brian Wilson. Listen see Kara Wilson. Greg Be Brian Wilson. That is incorrect. Afraid do you have a guess. A Dennis Wilson. Dennis Wilson is correct. He meant to of Manson's followers when he picked him up hitchhiking on Sunset Boulevard and took them to his rental home Little did he know the entire family would eventually show up and stay. Manson even shared his desire to be musician with Wilson who introduced him to industry. St Contacts Including Executive Terry Melcher. Who at the time lived on Cielo drive in Los Angeles okay? The score stands at six to two in favor. Aver Vanessa now. After Dennis Wilson purposely let his lease expire and moved out of his rental home Manson and his followers discovered what would become their headquarters in the San Fernando Valley question number ten to finish out this round. What was the name of the ranch where the Manson family would become famously based A to Panga ranch be spawn ranch see cal Amigos ranch? Greg be spun rich that is correct now. The spahn ranch was an old fifty five. Acre movie. Ranch used for Westerns in Chatsworth California and it's where Manson would settle his family and really begin to push his armegeddon conspiracies. Okay with that point Greg. Up to three and Vanessa still has six and we are now at the halfway mark. We've followed Manson from troubled child to full blown California -fornia cult leader when we come back the trivia gets more difficult in round two as we get into Charles Manson's teachings that ultimately lead to murder and one of our players will be eliminated from the game. Why looking at me welcome back? You're listening to killer knowledge. I'm Carter Roy podcast host I Greg Paulson and Vanessa. Richardson are here this week. were all learning about one of the most notorious Killers Charles Manson and his family. Let's see we're Greg and Vanessa stand with points. We have Vanessa with six and greg with three still very much in contention by before we get into round two. Let's get a little rules. Update the questions are still multiple choice. ABC and correct answer is worth one point each. However there's a twist in this round called the killer question? That question is worth three points because there are no multiple choice options you who either know the answer or you don't and you better hope you know it because one player will be eliminated at the end of this round. Let's keep playing here. We go with around two as we learned earlier Manson educated himself while in prison besides Qatar and scientology he also took classes that taught Dale. Carnegie's Book How to win friends and influence people. Well that book is retrospectively ably credited with transforming Manson from an awkward and uninfluential person to the charismatic cult leader. He would become the second round dives into Manson's teachings and manipulations leading up to him becoming a murderer mastermind. Let's start with question number. Eleven and which nineteen sixty eight Beatles. Album did Charles Manson convinced his followers contained a prophecy for the end of the world. A Abbey road be the white album. See Magical mystery tour Vanessa. Sta Bi the white album the Beatles which is also called the white album is the correct. Answer the album which sold over three million copies in its first week in the. US was a huge success and is the band's most certified album in history a Manson believed it contained hidden lyrics. It's about a revolution and used it to preach about an impending race war. Okay Vanessa getting on the board and round two now with seven points. Greg has three now. One song from the white album was more influential and Manson delusions than any other. I see some head. Nodding looks like we're GonNa have a a tight race on this one question number. Twelve what Beatles Song did Manson use to describe his imagined impending racial conflict. I am the Walrus. Be Yellow submarine. See Helter skelter. Greg see helter skelter. That is very correct and well performed as well. That song title was. Also the name of Vincent Instant Bugliosi's famous book about the crimes and trial of the words. Helter skelter would later be found written in blood on the refrigerator At these Sharon tate murder scene with that answer Greg. You got a point in round two. So you're up to four points to Vanessa. Seven again killer. Question is out. There were three one question could be right back in a very tight race now while Manson mastered the way of speaking to his family that kept them believing his outlook on on the world for question number thirteen. What psychotropic drug did he also give his followers to manipulate them and persuade them of his vision? A LSD be heroin. See Ecstasy Greg a LSD LSD. Is the right answer. That brings Greg to five points to Vanessa's seven points. Manson's vision took a tragic tragic turn on the night of August. Eighth Nineteen Sixty nine on the family had killed before especially in hopes to start the race war. Manson had talked so much about but it was the murders on Cielo drive in Los Angeles that captured national attention. Since one of the victims was actress. Sharon tate wife life of director Roman Polanski that night Manson sent four of his followers to the House to kill everyone there for question number fourteen. What family member reportedly said? I'm the devil. I'm here to do the devil's business before they began killing healing people a Susan. Atkins be Tex Watson C.. Linda Sabin Greg a Susan Atkins that is incorrect. Oh my goodness ludicrous. chickened out Tex Watson when NASA is correct thinking I was thinking woman interesting. I was just thinking about this a little like you thought it might have been shows you you you know where my mind goes characters right all these names you knew it was Tex Watson yes it's now eight to five and remember we still have the killer question. Pop Up worth three points and one player will be eliminated at the end of the round. Now as the Manson family left the crime scene after the murders Susan as an Atkins wrote a message on the front door question number fifteen. What word did she write a pig? Be Eh di Sea Devil Greg. A pig that is correct atkins wrote the word pig using Sharon. Tate's blood on front door. Yeah it's probably one of the most talked about details surrounding the murders and the word is connected to another song from the Beatles. White album called hauled piggies which was an anti establishment anthem. Now that brings the score. Eight to six in favour of Vanessa. Hope here that that sound means it is time for the killer question. Remember killer question is not multiple choice. You either know the answer or you don't and the questions were three points in this case Greg you would take the lead Vanessa. You could really start to put it away so buzzing if you know the answer question question number sixteen the killer question. One of the Manson families victims at Tate's home was the heiress to which famous coffee the company Vanessa Folder Twenty five year old Abigail folder was one of the five victims. Yes she was at the House with her boyfriend who was friends with Tate's husband Roman Polanski now by taking the question. Vanessa has moved up to eleven points to Greg's six now. The murder scene on Cielo drive in August nineteen sixty nine wasn't discovered until the next morning by the housekeeper the Manson family wouldn't be connected to it until weeks later but that didn't stop the family from killing again before their arrest. The same four killed Sharon Tate and her guests joined by two more family members murdered Leno and Rosemary Labianca in their Los feeless. Home the final question for this round question number seventeen how long After the Sharon tate murders to the Manson family kill again. The next morning be the next afternoon soon. See the next night Greg I would say be the afternoon. I'm going to take a stab at the next morning At is incorrect it was the next night a Manson accompanied the family the next night to the law Bianca home but only gave orders before leaving hand allowing his followers to carry out the crime. And with that question. We've come to the end of round two with the score. You're eleven vanessa to six four Greg. Unfortunately that means we have to say goodbye to Greg. You brought so much killer knowledge alleged to the show. Thank you so much for being here. We're going to take a short break and come back with the last three questions of the show with the Manson family murders carried out. It's time for the aftermath. Come back to hear how much Vanessa knows about the Manson family punishments. Welcome back to killer knowledge. I'm Carter Roy. We've been quizzing. Zing Park cast hosts. Greg Poulsen Vanessa. Richardson about the Manson family murders. During the summer of nineteen sixty nine with three questions left. It's time to cover the aftermath of that crime when we left round to greg had six points to Vanessa's eleven points and that means Greg was eliminated from the game so now in round three only Vanessa. We'll be answering questions to win some amazing prizes now. This time points don't matter but right answers answers do here the rules. There are three multiple choice questions. Each with two answer options A. or B. so you'll have a fifty fifty shot. Each correct answer is worth an amazing prize. Get One answer right. And you'll get a spotify premium account free for one year. If you get two to questions right you win a role in an episode of the podcast original unsolved murders hosted by me. And if you get all three questions right in this round you'll win. The exclusive car cast golden headphones. And the chance to come back for one of our best shows to compete against other killer knowledge champions Vanessa. Are you ready. I am so ready. Look ready here. We go with round three now. It wasn't the Tate Labianca murders that got the Manson family initially arrested question number eighteen. What criminal charges I brought law enforcement to the spawn ranch to arrest the Manson family before police realized they were the killers? It's a robbery. Be Car theft. Technically robbery is car. Theft is robbery but it specifically be car theft. That is the correct answer. You get spotify premium free for one year now. The trial of the Manson family began in June nineteen seventy it included seven counts of murder question number nineteen which Manson family family member testified against Charles Manson and the other cult members during their murder. Trial a TEX Watson B.. Linda Indika Sabin That would be be Linda Kosabe Ian Yes to for to technically Kosabe. You did not participate in the killings. So she was granted immunity in exchange for testimony. Okay Vanessa that means you have one these spotify premium account free for year a role on unsolved murders hosted by me and you are still in the running for the podcast golden headphones and chance to come back to compete on more killer knowledge. Okay Vanessa. We are down to the final question of this episode and we want to end it on a question to really hear how deep your Manson family knowledge goes so so question number. Twenty which former Manson family member unsuccessfully attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford in Nineteen Seventy Five A. Lynette squeaky FROMM BE PATRICIA Krenwinkel. I'm going with squeaky. Lynette squeaky fromm. You got all three right. Meaning you get spotify premium. Mm Free for one year. A role in an episode of the podcast original unsolved murders and the exclusive par cast golden headphones are yours plus. We could see you back here again to compete against other killer knowledge winners. How do you feel fantastic? I mean obviously. I'm so excited I. I'm so thrilled for all of especially those podcast headphones. I'm so excited all of it. Thank you so much. This was a great opportunity. And thanks to Greg. Thanks to both you for being here. Both Greg and Vanessa you brought so much great true crime expertise to the show and again remind our listeners about the shows you host here on the podcast network works so they can keep learning from youth. Thank you okay. Well my definitely serial killers of course Cults as well with Greg and I Female criminals is also so fascinating. Look at tails different spin mythology. Mythical monsters not guilty famous fates and secret societies eighties. Okay all amazing park shows for anybody out there who's listening for a new podcast. Listen to you. And how about you greg. My shows are secret societies with Vanessa. Of course serial. The real killers colts those three with Vanessa. I also host singly singularly haunted places urban legends and podcast Crime Bites Nights. Well we can't end the show without wrapping up. Our journey through the life of Charles Manson from a young age Manson was on a path to destruction. It extended extended from petty theft to murder mastermind and in the end after all the brainwashing manipulation in murder Charles Manson died in prison on November nineteenth. Two thousand seventeen. He lived to be eighty three years old to everyone listening. Thank you for playing killer knowledge with us us. Let us know what you thought about. Today's episode by leaving the Review Wherever you're listening and by reaching out on facebook and instagram at par cast in twitter at podcast network. Thank you can also listen to more episodes of killer. Knowledge and other park has two originals on spotify. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm Carter Roy come back next week to hear who will become the next true crime. Expert killer knowledge was created by Max Cutler Zeh podcast studios original channel it is executive produced by next cutler produced by Kristen GITA MIRA in Jonathan ratliff sound design by Kristen osservato killer Knowledge Stars Carter Roy thanks to our sponsor better for it a new podcast from A._D._p.. Each episode features visionaries talking candidly about mistakes. They've made in their businesses. How they worked their way through them and came out better for it? Listen on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Mini Crush #38

Movie Crush

25:05 min | 2 years ago

Mini Crush #38

"It's baritone date, Thurston host of spit. I heart radio newest podcast, twenty three and me where we explore how understanding your DNA changes, how we think about ourselves and the world around us. We've got the why cleft John. We have so much more in common than you could even imagine you put two kids together. They're going to want to play. They're gonna wanna have a good time. They gonna wanna fall in. Love have opinions. This is every kid listen to the full episode of spit with twenty three and me in the iheartradio app four wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, everybody welcome to movie crush it's many crush in time with me and Mr.. No Brown is I Mr. Noah Brown here too many crush with you? Chuck man. It's hot in here. I hate the studio. Should we take off all our clothes. That's that's a reference to nineties hip hop song. That's a reference to coitus. Yes. All right. Now we're gonna. Start off this week. We're gonna get right into it with a little surprise for you. I know one of the running jokes on the show is movies that you haven't seen that I'm flabbergasted by and people are starting to joke about that on the mini mini crush movie rush, waited. They think it's kind of like uncultured rube now it's just funny because people are like Chuck always saying what you haven't seen that. So here we go with a special little game called Knowles holes. Wow. So no, what I did was put together list of twenty films from the sixty seventies eighties and nineties, and from a variety of John rouse, but all considered classics and you need to respond whether or not you have seen this movie or not. Should we? We should we allow listeners to place bats, sure. Everyone. Just how do we do this. How many we talking here twenty twenty movies. Okay, so if my ratio falls, what's the over under? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I here's what I tried to do. I tried to just go across onerous so it wasn't like, you know. Tried to be fair about it. Yeah, I not stump you necessarily. So I think I, I'm going to say I'm going to do better than fifty percents. Okay. All right. But we'll see. All right. I'm gonna highlight the ones in green that you've seen number one fast times at ridgemont high. Sure. Okay. Yeah, that's the one with Phoebe Cates. Right. Of course. That's what you're remember. Yeah, coming out of the pool. All right to that car song. Yeah, we liked that movie. Okay. Great. Yeah. All right. Number two. No, unforgiven, of course the great Clint Eastwood western. I've seen that one. I, you know, I remember that actually came out on my birthday the year that came out. I was quite young, but I do remember it came on August eighth. And you saw? No, I did neither. Not see until years later. Oh, but you did see it read did came out, you know, and the during the Halcion blockbuster days. All right. Well, no, so far I'm very impressed to for to me to buddy number three when Harry met Sally. No. Oh. I have seen the famous orgasm scene, though on clips doesn't count. Okay. Knowles holes when Harry met Sally. Yep. There are a lot of shock people at right now. I haven't seen them number four. Is it any good when Harry met Sally? Yeah. No, the probably the best romantic comedy of time. Gotcha. Genuinely funny, wonderfully scripted, acted and directed. Classically fill that hole Chuck. It's very good. I had to actually watch that recently for what I thought was going to be a movie, crush appearance from Nikki Glaser. She was coming through town and she was all set. We are all set and then she had to cancel and I felt terrible and chief l. terrible, but we're gonna get her in here again. Sweet. I think goodwill hunting, yes course. Okay. How about them apples? Yeah. All right. You don't have to prove it. Roger Williams. Maybe should have to prove as the janitor. No, as the other way around. All right. You have no professor and Matt, Damon is the janitor? Yes. Is like the secret math genius. Okay. All right. Yeah, the usual suspects course. No, you are jamming. I think it's absurd. This notion that I haven't seen movies. Well, I think you're you're proving that in our king record. Okay, American Beauty. Yes. Okay. That's another one I saw a million times. I love that when Alan Ball, we're going to change the name of this from those holes. Do know, gets offended. Now keep it coming one flew over the cuckoo's nest. Yes. All right. He rips out the water found at the end. Throws it through the window, boiler alert, say anything? Yeah. I think that's one of those ones. I probably seen in bits and pieces on TV over the years. Kind of like Christmas story doesn't count. Okay. Deliverance, deliverance, sweet, like a pig. Great. I had a great interview with the guy that just Bernal's about how he like wanted to do his own stunt when he goes over that waterfall or like almost fucking died like because they were gonna time it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So you know, you just can't down and then I'll just, I'll want throw myself this plucking waterfall and I'm gonna go down and I'm gonna go here and I'm gonna go left them. I'm gonna bounce off of this and then I'm an end up right there and it's gonna look amazing because they were going to do it with a dummy. And the director was at looks like a dummy. Bur l. fuck it. I'll do it. I'm crazy bastard. He apparently got caught in the suction. He went down so quickly, and then the suction kind of shoots out hit like tore his clothes off. Wow. And he ended up like broken and beaten and like make it, and they're like, who's that weird looking naked old man over there, and it was Burt Reynolds because he, you know, he'd just been thrashed crazy. And then when they look back at the footage ago, still looks like dummy. Really. That was the story. Moving on. All right. Number ten animal house. Now I haven't seen that one. Right? It's it's a pretty big hole. All right. Saturday Night Fever, no boy, we're on a roll. Have the soundtrack though vinyl, though the original Mad Max movie. The road warrior now now haven't seen it. It's three in a row. Number thirteen. Dr Strangelove course. Okay. A huge favourite. That's another one I could watch repeatedly number fourteen the graduate. Yeah, MRs Robinson you trying to seduce me. Okay. Number fifteen. The great escape now. Okay. Do you know what the movie? I don't World War Two escape from a prison camp. Moving starring pretty funny sister. It actually does funny parts, but boy, starring. James garner in in Steve McQueen and. A whole host of dudes. I'm blanking. Great movie. No nineteen. Eighty s some kind of wonderful. No. Wait. Wait. Is that the one non thinking of something wild, that's different. That is different. That's different. Some kind of wonderful red. Okay. Number seventeen. Footloose orig-. Nope. All right. One about the town where dancing is illegal. That's right. Kevin, bacon. Knoll number eighteen coming to America. Yes, in them. Okay. The McDougals right McDougal's that's the McDonald's restaurant. They were. The Scottish kills a love that your takeaway McDougal Dougals number nineteen, an American werewolf in London guessing that you're scoring. Well here reporting it out in and finally, all number twenty Amadeus. Nope. All right, everyone. Let's tallied up here one two, three, four, five six, seven eight, nine movies. You have not seen. You have officially seen over fifty percent. Hey, nice. All eleven of those. That's good. That was fun. That was fun Knowles. We might do that again. I gotta fill them holes. Yeah, maybe maybe what we can do is take some submissions, some listener submissions for Knowles holes. I think those that was a pretty fair smattering. A good sm- could smattering. Hey, movie Crushers. If you're thinking about saving money this summer, why not start by paying less interest on your credit card balances? 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All right. We're gonna move it over to social studies. Social. Weeks ago I asked about your favorite documentaries and you responded in kind with lots of great recommendations. I'm leaving this one up because we have like over three hundred documentary wreck's over there on the movie crush page, not movie, Crushers everyone and we're just gonna. Take down some of these Theresa tomorrow says the human planet from BBC and planet earth also from the BBC. Those are great Barrington Nate naturebox, Stephen Roche, dear Zachary, ooh, boy completely destroyed me. He says, emotionally, aside from that was masterfully shot at its base yesterday. We talked about dear Zachary on the show before that. That's a tough one Taylor, Ashley. I've not heard of this, but she says the toys that made us on net flicks, which I believe is a series. It's fun. She said is really good one about like Hello kitty and San Rio surprise and all that stuff is one about he man and and a lot of the cartoons that were. Like made specifically to market action figures. And there's one about Star Wars toys, which I think you'd probably dig Chuck. Yeah, because you're old. Getting back at me because of your holes. Yes. She said it's just a very kind of light. Fun nostalgic thing is kind of welcome. I enjoy. It was li- enjoyed it very much. It's good stuff. Benjamin Johnston, grizzly man, and encounters at the end of the world. I don't think I've seen that one, but it's grizzly man. John Millsaps says, HBO's going clear boy, Howdy. You kidding? I took a photo to when I was in l. a. of the Scientology productions over there in Los feeless race to live at Scientology central the celebrity centres over there. One of the main buildings production departments over there l. Ron Hubbard way on string of what is it Gilman street. Now that's in San Francisco. What's the street where the big Scientology center near the upright citizens brigade theater? Yeah, that's well, that's the Scientology center that right across the street from UC. That's where I'm thinking of that Franklin. Yeah, exactly. I love that area place called the bourgeois pig over there that I like really cool little record. Store and like most right there. I wanna say it's called counterpoint. I think yet, and there's a restaurant right next to be called birds pretty good a lot. Great part of town. Dan Maynard says it might get loud. That's the documentary, Jimmy page, Jack white edge. Did you ever see that? It seemed a little masturbated. Well, I enjoyed it, but what I wanted was more of the three of them together and they had all those, they tackled each one of them individually, and then finally brought them all together at the end. And that was the best part. And I was like, man, that should have been the documentary right there. Those very interesting. And I did love like just the reverence for Jimmy page from both of both just were like, okay. Yeah, epic, legendary guy. Yeah. Tony clued, Vic, great name dog town zebras agreed much much better than the lords of dog town movie that they made the fictional film doctorate in zebras, right? Yeah. Dog towns e boys the dog board writing guys. Well, kinds of just early skateboarding maverick site who were like fourteen, which is crazy. Joshua hall says, I know that voice. It's about voice actors. I think I've seen parts of that. Actually, Vanessa Cashman exit through the gift shop. Of course. Great banks, doc, did you see that banks news he like has self-destructed his own painting at seven power, man, that guy. I think everyone was kinda like, I think there was a percentage of people that were like what an ass and then the other ninety nine percent of the people were like, oh, that's great. Yeah, but the funny thing is apparently it makes the painting even more valuable. Well, yeah, of course because it's like now it's it's still there and it's been Bank Syed? Yeah. For those of you don't know Bank. He. Has a very lovely a picture of a girl holding a heart balloon that he had framed and this sort of big fat frame. That kind of looked strange. Yeah. Turns out that the the frame had a shredder in the bottom of it. No one knew this when it went to auction sold for like one point two or one point, four million somehow he activated, it must have been bluetooth or something. There's a video he put on his is, oh, shows how he did it shows him making the frame. Oh, okay. And then it shows like footage like clearly covert footage from inside the auction, so either him or wanted to plant? Yeah, triggered it remotely and the painting passes down through the bottom of the frame and and shreds conic. It is funny that though after I saw that and like the picture is still in there, it's not shredded and all just flew out. So it's hanging partially shredded down below the frame. And as soon as I saw that, I was like, well, that's going to be worth even more now than of course. That's the case. Go banks ago. Exit through the gift shop is such a smart move because I'm not even convinced that it's fully documentary. I think there's parts of it that are like manipulated and kind of like, I don't know the whole Mr. brainwash thing. I don't know if you haven't seen it. That's a fabulous film. Yeah, it is. That is like his whole, his whole jam. Punking the world. Lorraine Aykroyd says bowling for Columbine for stuck memory saw in cinemas so powerful and emotional, especially watching it in cinema that was like, when you know he think what you will about Michael Moore, like he certainly brought documentaries back to the forefront in terms of like being bencher and like, you know, like playing in theaters liters, very ill, Michelle lamb being crumb immediately came to mind, but OJ made in America also close second. Yeah, there's a great crumb. One of my favorite documentaries about the great artists are Danny garland says hero dreams of sushi of course, and som- SO m m about the Somalias wants a mall as dania. Both of those are both. Great. I always see that one popping up on the Netflix som-. It's good. I mean, especially if you're into wine, it's the must see, very, very intense that master Somalia's a test that you have to take very intense. Jamie Barney says brother's keeper from nineteen Ninety-two not a well known duck, but it took place about thirty miles for me. Yeah, totally myself brother's keeper. If you're into true crime, dig back into that. Everyone. That's a really, really good one. Very tragic, Tammy. Mitchell says spellbound best of all time. I love that one about the spelling bee. Yes. Wonderful, really sweet, very, very good movie. And these are so great documentaries. Does it get any better? Yes. William Anga says, I love this film has not yet been rated in king of Kong. He had those were both great king Ofcom was cool, and there was a development in that one recently where the the, the horrible Billy Mitchell is like kind of the big bully, Kong guy, Donkey Kong that is arcade champion in that movie. He got stripped of his title because he had been cheater reading. He was using emulator as opposed to actually playing on the gull and the console the the cabinet version, and you can actually mess with the frame rate on the emulator version. So it's like slower or something. There's there's a way he was doing it where he was Duke in the stats, a jackass, Duke. The stats never heard that we're. No, you haven't heard Duke in the stats? No, man, we gotta. We gotta take that wide. I don't know. I just make the, that'd be pretty cool. Surely, surely Duke in the stats you type in that shouldn't now? No. Travis share me says under the giant. HBO agreed. Just saw that great, great documentary. And then finally will finish with two more Joey. It's chew. King stats. I like Dookie stats better. I've never heard of either one. Yeah, I ju- king really bizarre. Jimmy Mallory. Old friend says, who is documentary on the Dana Carvey show to funny to fail, highlights the doom show and everything in the atmosphere was just right for it to not work out real shame really. Interesting. I haven't haven't heard of that sounds really good though because of heard about that show and you know, I had some legends on it, Colbert in smuggle and Steve Carell amazing at the check that out. Jimmy. Thanks for the wreck. Juke. The stats is a physically from the wire, the show the why really is what they talk about when they're trying to clear murders or whatever they're trying to like, you know, kind of make the murder rate seem lower than it is they call it ju ping the statute, the sense wondering, but I still prefer duping the stats. Interesting. It's Barrington Thurston host of spit. I heart radio newest podcast, twenty three and me that explores how understanding your DNA changes, how we think about ourselves and the world around us. John legend joined us to discuss how are we all related. We're not a nine point, five percent, the same. That point, five percent is an area. We have been eager to explore those small differences inspired a lot of -scriminate. I feel like we're becoming more connected. I feel like we're learning more about how much we have in common listened to the full episode of spit with twenty three and me. Now in the iheartradio app will wherever you listen to podcasts. All right on that note, we're gonna finish with stream this. That's right. What have been watching lately stream it speaking of the wire have been watching the deuce. Have you seen the deuce? I have heard that it's pretty good on HBO. It is the new show, I guess, from creator of the wire, David, Simon, and I think he had some some help on this in. This wasn't a one hundred percent David, Simon production? Yeah, he's working with another gentleman named George Pellicano sauce and Davidson. Simon brought us the wire in tra- may in the deuce is the story of sort of the early days of the sex trade industry in New York City in Times Square in the early nineteen seventies and it stars will stars of a bunch of great people, of course, because David, Simon, it's got a huge, huge cast, but James Franco's in it. Maggie Gyllenhaal is wonderful. Margarita, I dunno, you pronounce your name Livia. She's really great. I've seen her and some other stuff, adventure land. She was in that. That's good. Emily. Mead, Dominic fish back a lot. A lot of great people in this Gary car? Lawrence killer junior who believe he was in the wire to Chris Bauer, really, really good stuff, huge casts, and because it's David, Simon, it's got a wire esque feel in that it. There are a lot of different storylines interweaving. And I feel like in the pilot, maybe even in the first couple of episodes is just introducing story after story after story. And then you know, again, because it is a Simon production that they're all sorta gonna. We've their tendrils through each other. It's greedy, it's realistic is helical and about porn, right? Sort of, yeah. Like you know, their sex workers, so that's going on, but also very early going in this series. It's it sort of transforms from like street level sex workers to them getting into pornograph- porn, acting like through the early days of. Pornography and how that is like a better alternative for them. Then turning tricks, you know, in Times Square just good stuff though. Like there's no. Like there's no judgments cast on these people, I think, which is good way to play this. James Franko place twin brothers. That's awesome. It's Franko. It's always the dream job though, too. Right? I think so too. Like show that you've got the chops. Yeah, and he's pretty good in it, and I was, I was on Frank, burn out and obviously he had his his moment called out in. He seems to have weathered it. Okay. Because I don't hear a lot of people complaining about him. It's an interesting that he decided to be in this show too, and this shows getting some love, but it's also coming out at a time that I think it's tough for removing about sex workers in the seventies starring James Franco, you know, I think that might be hurting it. I wonder because it's not it hasn't blown out season. Two just came out though, and it's very expensive show. Yeah, and they already committed to a season three and apparently it's one-two-three in done like they have it, and I think they, they're jumping ahead. I think season two is haven't gotten into that yet, but I think that goes into the eighties and I think they may be going into the nineties for season three. So it's almost like a boogie nights kind of thing. Age of film and pornography. And then in the eighty s when it's like all VHS and right video and the production value. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Good show though. I like it. I mean, it's you kinda wanna take a bath after you watch episodes. It's not like heartwarming and fun, but it's good stuff, gritty, gritty TV. So I recommended everyone the deuce on HBO if you don't have HBO just oh, I'll post my HBO log in. Never one can just watch it. I'm just kidding. I want to that. All right. That's it for this week knowl-. This was a bit of a shorter when we're gonna get into comet card and in suing episodes. But for today, that is all we have here on many crush and we look forward to you joining us next Monday. Over three hundred twenty five years ago, the community of Salem, Massachusetts was rocked by something that few ever thought possible. It's been called an outbreak a wave of hysteria or the perfect storm at the confluence of seemingly unrelated ideas, events, and beliefs, whatever we try to call it though we always seem to miss the Mark. What bothers me so much so many people say how ignorant people were back. Then that's historian Emerson, Baker professor of American history at Salem state university. How could they possibly believe in witches in that they were, I remember in sixteen ninety two, which is were real. Everybody believed in them university ministers, doctors of theology, governors pope's, which is our real, the Salem, witch trials are equal parts universally known and barely understood by most people. That's why this series exists new episodes. This twelve part series air every Wednesday, learn more and find links to subscribe over at history on obscured dot com.

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Baby Welcome - COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

34:49 min | 4 years ago

Baby Welcome - COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

"Uh-huh The council way not though we got doorway thing though way the thing that way thing not a thing the law. uh-huh the dog. Oh ooh EH in Now Now a way Oh I love only oh hello. Hello Dearest cozy zone friends over here. Six days ago in Los Angeles California on February twenty-second twenty seventeen seventeen at ten thirty six. Am Pacific Time. A baby was born to my sweet darling friends sage and Julia Julia. She entered the world at nine pounds and was twenty one inches long. She has ten fingers and ten toes and a radiant radiant beautiful chubby face. Oh my her name is Mira Eleanor. I'm MIRA welcome. Come Baby Zone IRS. I'm sharing the birth of this baby with you because it is in fact the most important moment of my life thus far I gave my sperm to sage and Julia so that this baby could exist I am the biological dialogical father of Mira. Eleanor but I am not her parent MIRA to extraordinary moms. Who got very helpful? Assist from me me but as you can imagine i. I'm sitting here in my my cozy Brooklyn bedroom having a huge assortment of feelings and so my sweet zone. I'm harnessing my public processing platform of the cozy EST podcast on the planet to share with view. What is going on in my heart? Mind in terms of this baby. I wrote a little letter to MIRA that I will share with you today. Even if you're not a six day L. A. based baby you'll probably enjoy. It should be a little something in there for everyone so everyone thank you so much for listening to this very special l. very earnest very vulnerable episode of Cozy Zone with Ben Weber. Here's my letter. Dear Mira Eleanor. Hello baby welcome to this life. I'm so happy you're here. I want to introduce myself off. My name is Ben Weber. I'm a huge fan of your mom's I have a hit podcast. Cozy zone with Ben Weber. That's me It's the cozy EST podcast on the planet. A podcast probably don't know what that is but it's it's like a radio show on the Internet Okay I supposed does have to explain radio show in Internet. You know what you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA get it. You're going to get the hang of it. I know you will. Okay so who am I. I'm a guy who really loves loves art. I love making it and talking about it I work at a theater for kids and families in New York City and place called Times Square. Which I'll introduce to you someday? But it's a big bright loud disgusting center of the world I love making people laugh at something. I have big plans to make you laugh for so many years Mera get ready. I Love Love I love Romance. I love a woman named Nicolette. She's she's on episode. One of Cho's own with Ben Weber. I live with Nicolette in Brooklyn New York. I also love a woman named Jen. I'm really really looking forward to talking with you about love when you're a little older because it's wonderful and complicated and there's a lot to say and frankly I'm I'm still wrapping my mind wind around the whole thing as why tell you this you're probably thinking Oh okay. I'm a newborn baby her ray. Wow while the whole world is exciting being in its own new and everyone excited that I'm here and they're sending me gifts and Ben Weber from cozy zone is making a special podcast episode. Because that's what always happens when there's a newborn baby. Yeah that's that's what the universe is and I totally get that point of view. I understand that I can. I can really understand what you're thinking that But it's really important for me to say that you're not just any sweet chubby gorgeous baby I gave your mom's mice sperm so you could exist okay so it actually feels quite important to explain all this to break it down. Okay so What does this mean? All living things have a genetic code called DNA or deoxyribonucleic acid and that DNA contains all of the information nation for how that living thing is put together life which as far as we know as human beings. That's what we are we are. We are human beings only exist here on our planet earth okay. So we're we're on the third planet from the Sun. The Sun is a star. Are we exist in the cosmos which is is beyond our ability really to to comprehend. We're just sort of learning about it So life you know we. Life is very rare and precious And so on our planet over over hundreds of millions of years different types of life from from super tiny single celled organisms. Which you actually were at one point To fish they are little things that swim in the ocean into dinosaurs unite. You and I are going to talk a lot about dinosaurs. Promise to monkeys. And we're we're definitely GONNA make some monkey noises. Oh Yeah can you make some monkey noises. Mira you're you're young but we'll get there. Don't worry so okay. All all of this life has developed different strategies to pass along their particular particular. DNA so that life can continue. Okay so when I say I gave your mom's my sperm. It means you have half of my DNA and half of your mom sages DNA. So technically biologically. You could say that I am your father but but I mentioned that we are human beings and human beings have a special quality That we call consciousness okay so consciousness is the ability to know with our our brains that we are alive and that we we have thoughts and we are aware of our position as thinking feeling beings in the world and that is very unique to life on earth. Okay so as far as we know we are the only creatures with consciousness and that and as humans woman's we also have something called language so you're experiencing spoken language right now you're already forming the connections and your brain you'll need to produce a language which of your own and there's also written language and you're GonNa Learn all about the alphabet and you'll be able to read some day and it's going to be great and so you're GonNa have a lot of language okay. So because of consciousness and the complexity of emotions and social networks and the imperfect way that we convey a meaning through language. Saying that. I'm your father isn't quite right. That's not exactly who I am to you. I I am something to you. I WanNa be something to you. It's very important that I am something. Maybe not your father okay So really really. I'm right now. I'm grappling with this question. Who Am I to you? Okay let me let you in on my who am I to you journey here. Okay okay So at the beginning of this whole process I was calling myself. Boasts spunk. Olha which is funny a little noddy. Sperm what. I gave your mom's Tom Uncle family role. That might play in your life. Okay spunk is also another word. For sperm traditionally an uncle and aunt the sibling of your parents parents also inspired by what author activist S Bear Bergman calls. His donor family members sparkle and the offspring of a sparkles sparkling. But you know now that you're here I I'm not really feeling sparkle. It's not not really a laughing matter and into it's just wasn't working. I read an article A therapist gave me about donor families of this kind kind and That gave me the phrase donor. Dad which I really liked the The young one couldn't really say donor dads so so They would say doughnut. Oh Not Dad which is very cute But again as I mentioned before Dan is is a little heavy and fraught. And I'm not your dad even though I'm really in the market to be a truly benevolent presence in your life. So I've been talking with your moms and doing a lot of thinking myself and I I'd like to try something out with you now. This doesn't have to be forever but as of now I would like to be your donor. Dude what do you think for me. Donor dude it makes me smile. It makes me think about the movie. the big Lebowski. That will watch some day when you're a little older it's sweet wheat to think of myself as someone's dude like Mira Dude. I'm your donor dude. What do you think we'll try it out so for now? I'm I'm your donor. Dude Mira I gotta tell you though your origin story it is. It is epic get cozy. Let me let me delay on this this epoch story of how you came to be in the world so I met your mom's in Applied Theatre Grad School in New York City. Okay and I think you're going to be one of the rare human beings on the planet who will always know what applied theatre is for those of you. Who Don't it is an umbrella? The term referring to a performing arts practices that are used for things other than entertainment including education. Social Justice this and community building But for you Mira it's going to be part of of the basic colors and numbers. I animal sounds and Circle Games and tableau and Augusta baugh shapes and food. An the antidepressant pedagogy a good life mirror so I I became close to your mom Julia. She is very wise and funny Eh and fierce. She's from Chicago. I'm from Milwaukee. We know some of the same people. So we have this sort of mid Western connection. You know now And and she really has like this profound spirit of a community organizer whenever I spent time with her. She's she's doing something she's on the move you you know. She's doing something in the name of justice like mapping out a march ruder. Editing protests. Copy your folding leaflets. She's she reminds me of like a young ruth. Bader Peter Ginsberg with curly hair she's She's incredible and your mom. Julia fell in love with your mom sage. Who was a dear colleague colleague that I admired deeply but from a bit more of a distance? Get your mom. Sage is like ferry royalty. You know she's like Sticky Stackhouse Sir. I played by Anna. Pack win from televisions. True blood. We're also going to watch that. I hope I got to ask permission from your MOM's if we can watch true blood it's a little violent a little sexy it's about vampires you don't need to know about vampires quite yet but okay so sage. Though she possesses these profound powers of healing hand empathy and gentle leadership that seemed to flow directly from the spirit world. Sage when you around her. It's like she is glowing or maybe like she is kindling the light from inside you. She's she's a magical person so your mom's graduated from Applied Applied Theatre Grad School. They got their M. as they moved to La and they got engaged to be married. And so- Julia came to visit me and in Nicolette lead and October two thousand fourteen and at breakfast during the final morning of her trip. Julia asked me if I would consider being the known sperm donor. If and when she ian sage wanted to start a family. Oh my wow oof lots lots of things flooded into my mind. In that moment I was so flattered. This is I mean truly profound come on. Hey you're very handsome and sweet. Can I have your number so I can call you and use your genetic material to create a loving family. I think you're so fundamentally great that we WANNA make a being thing that resembles you that's amazing that is so sweet so uplifting and validating I was so I'm touched but I was also so frightened. Would I be responsible for this child forever. What I want to take responsibility ability for this child? How would I deal with my inevitable complicated overwhelming feelings? And what did it mean for my own family plans. How would my sweetie Nicolette? Colette feel about it. How would she be affected? What would my parents think? Would I be able to handle the way that my life would profoundly shift. So he said I think about it. Ten months past sage and Julia got married. August Twenty Ninth Twenty fifteen eighteen Nicolette and I were invited to be the bud honey at their wedding These are the folks who are responsible for rejoicing the bride and bride according according to ancient Jewish tradition we were the goofy master and mistress of ceremonies during the wedding meal inviting family and friends to come forward and entertain tain the bride's. It was a most beautiful wedding and we danced our butts off And I think it was at the wedding really wants bearing witness to the love of sage Julia amongst their community. Their family both blood and chosen that. I decided without a doubt that I was. Who's going to give your mom's my sperm cut to boxing day December Twenty Fifteen Nicolette and I drive to alight from mm Sandiego? We're where we are visiting family and friends say Julia Nicolette and I have a big lunch and talk about sperm donation. Logistics and feelings. The moms have been doing a lot of research on the legal implications of creating queer family as well as the necessary choreography of an at home insemination nation. I learn a lot and I talk about my feelings and and talk about maybe the kind of communication I would be hoping for and just sort of get everyone. Ready for the deluge of feelings. That are definitely going to come after lunch. I meet up with my friend Max. You can hear him in. Episode Nineteen of course zone with Ben Weber and who at the time is living at Sydney Australia but is in town visiting his family. Nicholas ex is in town so so she meets up with him. Max and I hike around the griffiths observatory and really bro out. We've big big talks about family and love and Star Wars. The Force Awakens we land at the Dresden Room and have a spirited conversation has always about politics in the evening. We all meet up with our friend Rami. WHO's an episode? Twenty seven of cozy with Ben Weber at a Los feeless Mexican restaurant. I am brimming with joy being altogether together with this incredible chosen family over the next few months. Your Mom's and I put together a loving kindness contract a document that states aren't tensions. Both state sanctioned. Sage and Julia will be your legal parents. I will not and emotional. Your Mom's think I'm great. I think your mom's great. Here's a little excerpt from our our contract. Sage and Julia who are married have asked Ben Weber to be a known donor owner as they attempt to start a family. The couple met Ben in Graduate School in Twenty Ten and the three have been good friends ever since sage and Julius and Ben a kind heart a creative thinker and a fierce ally in his relationship with his partner Nicolette. Ben has demonstrated an ability to communicate with respect expect and generosity and to work through challenging emotions with loving kindness Benz humor integrity and artistic spirit. Or just some of the reasons that at sage and Julia care for him and have asked him to be part of this process. Ben has agreed to assist sage and Julia because he deeply loves and respects them as individuals. And they're loving partnership both sage and Julia possessed the ideal qualities of loving nurturing and overall oh exemplary parents. Sage is deeply attuned to the physical emotional and spiritual wellbeing of everyone in her path she. She is grounded graceful generous and strong bringing light and love to anywhere she is present. Julia possesses does an exquisite mind and formidable courage. She encounters life's challenges with wisdom and grace and bundles up her loved ones with her. Bright Heart in their partnership. Ben has observed the ways in which they cultivate the best in each other they build bond based on love and support fueled by beauty laughter community and hope for a better world. There's no doubt in Ben's mind that sage Julia would make exceptional parents. He will proudly take part of the process to bring life into the world under their parental care in preparation. I got a thorough doctor's doctor's examination STI tests and worked on keeping my body free of intoxicants. All right. We're we're at may twenty sixteen A week before I'm to fly away. I see Mike Elbows one man show sperm hood at Dixon Place. Mike is a Brooklyn based writer and performer. WHO shares his story of being a sperm donor to his dear lesbian friends? A few things struck me about the performance. Mike takes us into his deep emotional world throughout the whole process unleashing insights about doubts and insecurities about love and romance and relationships in his own life life next. His process took a very long time. He would go to the fertility clinic month after month for years without success only until the team took a relaxing trip. Upstate without the clinical setting up a clinic did the pregnancy happen was was so moved by seeing this story dramatized before my eyes and left feeling glycine and relieved but also bracing myself for a very a long process filled with complicated emotions. Okay May Twentieth Twenty Sixteen Insemination Emma Nation weekend comes right before I get in my cab and head to the airport. nicolette sweetly poses for some pictures to inspire the whole process us. They are awesome beloved artifact from your origin story. MIRA as I'm sitting on the plane I realize I'm not exactly sure how the insemination is going to go as you will learn someday not too soon there are nearly infinite ways to get sperm into position to meet eat an egg. Would your mom's be looking for a direct deposit as depicted in the spike Lee film. She hates me. Probably not but anything is possible. Where would would I be? Where would they be? I been abstaining from making any deposits for the last seventy two hours so my generally busy mind is is a touch more graphic than usual as soon as I arrived in. La Your Mom's gave me my very clear briefing my battle station. The bathroom might target that Cute Little Mason Jar. Lovingly sterilize in boiling water on the stove might equipment My macbook air and a generous helping of coconut oil just to keep everything smooth breath. After I had hit the target I was to knock on the bedroom door where it would be intercepted by Julia. Who would then deliver the payload to sage age using a feeding syringe at this point or at rather at that point? I was to leave the premises as quickly as possible. So that your mom's could engage in some special grownup magic. Once semination had occurred. I would then make my way back to your mom's house and story a very clear procedure excellent boundaries boundaries. I was ready to dance so we eat a delicious meal at home. We watch bring it on which is weird. cheerleading movie and Go to bed the next day we go to the neighborhood credit union to get our loving kindness contract and our California statutory forms for assisted. Reproduction notarized notarized we sit down with kind notary public who nearly turns US away because we're not all credit union members. And what exactly are you looking to get notarized today we we give her our best blushing cute queer family maker faces and slide the forms in front of her and give her some insistent eyebrows. I see let me see what I can do. She says our hero notary notarize documents. Hurry we stopped at a CVS to pick up our little feeding syringe enj- that would be our key insemination tool we cool our heels at Barnes. Dale are park. A beautiful greenspace on a los villas hilltop framed by airy classical structures. I does a little reckon with the chatter in my mind. The little and sit quietly Komo your mom's do some reading then it's go time. We get back to the house. Light some candles and put on some vinyl stevie wonder's his original music query him insemination session. Number one goes swimmingly. I make my deposit handed off to Julia. I screwed out of the House. I head to the Los Villas Branch library and do some podcast. Editing episode forty-seven Spencer Lot in. What feels like no time at all the MOMS James Comey back? We go to the getty to see Robert Mapplethorpe the perfect medium the flowers and the nudes and the extreme in bondage. It was the perfect pairing to our day. We drive to Venice to have tacos Margaritas. The next day Sunday I get the the day off. Hang out with my friend. Rami we get a delicious delicious lunch at Mess Hall and go on a gorgeous hike Monday morning as time. I'm for another insemination session. I hit my target. Make the hand off and scurry out of the House. This time I had to a cute little cafe called alcove again. I've brought on my podcasting stuff with me because I I'm finding that staying busy with creative work soothes me. Alcove doesn't have WIFI. So of course. I I feel a bit trapped so I venture to another to hip cafe brew Coffee Bar in and try to think about something other than the possibility of my little swimmers. Creating another human being that will have a life and consciousness and emotions will feel pain and joy disappointment and rage and because they'll share my genetics. They'll oh probably also be able to see how truly weak and frightened I am as a person and they'll tell the whole world and then everyone will stop loving me. Oh my I I think I had too many expresses that morning the moms call me back and I bring them some gluten free scones sage drives me to the airport and we managed to have a nice conversation. Even though it's clear that there's a pretty strong subtext to the conversation which is yes my sperm inside. You know it will live there up to three days. Yes you're sperms inside me my wife put it there. And now we're having a conversation version as if we are more than sperm and a womb more than sperm and a womb preposterous. I've already booked my return flight and we're GONNA be doing this for at least six months. It could take years. I don't know I'm going to handle it because this is super intense pants. But I'll do my best. I get back home to Brooklyn. They wait June twelfth twenty sixteen so on this morning we all wake up to the horrible news of the biggest mass shooting. In American history at the pulse nightclub in Orlando. I gather myself together in head to a street fair in Williamsburg where I am planning on doing. Some live cozy zone recording. Your Mom's give me a call and they tell me they're pregnant. Oh my wow I. I can't believe that the stars were aligned. Sage Julian I completed our mission with fierce precision and love. I decided to go back to La Anyway to celebrate this but the news that you are on the way is challenging to hear amidst the news of this profound tragedy Mirra. I'm I'm so sorry to say but the world you've just entered is filled with suffering. I was telling you about human beings and how special they are because of language and consciousness but they are also really fantastic at inflicting pain on each other. There's a lot of darkness There's a lot of despair but the beautiful thing about you. MIRA and about all brand new babies is that welcoming when you loving you gives us all another chance to say Yes to light and hope and sweetness you who are already perfect but the world around you is very far from it. No matter how hard we try we will never be able to protect protect your perfection. But I promise we will try. So you're cooking in your mom's sage for nine months and I'm pretty profound denial about your impending arrival and I know there are a lot of compact complex feelings knocking around inside me. But I'm basically numb to them. I don't know how to deal with this. I don't know how to talk about this. I've visit your mom's in September. Sage has this extraordinary bump bump. That's you I tear up for a moment but my defenses quickly sweep all big feelings away cut to a a week before you arrive. I think my feelings finally emerge mirror. I'm curious to see how you deal with anxiety in the future. I have to tell you your donor dude processes anxiety with his stomach. Okay so we're it. Wednesday February Fifteenth Fifteenth. I wake up feeling terrible. I think it might be a hangover from a lovely Valentine's Day dinner with Nicolette. I go to rehearsal for drew. Peterson's sends new play the prizefighter of PS two seventeen. And I nearly have an irreparable accident. the Q train Irreparable reparable in the fact that. It's very embarrassing. When when you're a little older than you to Poop your pants so I almost put my pants? On the train Thursday February sixteenth. I feel terrible. I have no appetite. I go to therapy. I managed to eat a little Friday February seventeenth all morning. I have the most explosive diarrhea. I call in sick to rehearsal Saturday February eighteenth. I have no appetite. I go to rehearsal so Sunday February nineteenth. I can only eat little bits of bland things Monday February twentieth. I'm feeling better after. I think my feelings are working themselves out. I realized though. I don't know how you're going to be born sage and Julia going to go to the hospital. What are they gonNA do? uh-huh discover it's going to be at gratitude birthday birthing center and Silverlake Los Angeles and it is so beautiful so relaxing. I'm very excited for them. And you Tuesday February twenty first. Your mom's email us in the morning that you're on your way it's Romney's birthday we have set up a little love alter turn a candle. I like the candle. Wednesday February twenty-second. There's no word from your mom. You're mom's it's been over are twenty four hours. I'm so distraught but I'm trying to keep it cool. I go to therapy. When I emerged from therapy I learned that you have arrived ten thirty six? Am Pacific Time. Nine pounds twenty one inches. You're a girl no name yet. GotTa Wait Until Thursday February twenty third. That's nicolette birthday. And we learn. Your name is Muira. Eleanor Mirror Eleanor. You have changed my life forever the star stuff that leaves inside me and has lived inside my ancestors now lives inside you. The very cells of my body are singing for are you. It feels like every action. I take matters so much more deeply. I can't help but live my life in your your honor. I want to love you and protect you and know you and share with you. I want to be the best donor dude there is. I love you Mira Eleanor. I can't wait to meet you Intimately finding our And then you interviews. It's awkward it tastefully thing to be nosy in somebody's so so sweet beautiful

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John & Ken Show Hour 1 (03/29)

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John & Ken Show Hour 1 (03/29)

"The john and ken show. John kobylt. Ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty five everywhere on the iheartradio app. Sure we are. Why not well pick him anything else about this mars thing. That just disappeared that story. But what are they doing. People aren't interested in all the great stuff that really goes on at. That's why because people are still pay big story for a day god. It's unbelievable what they're doing up there. Oh you are keeping track i am. Nobody's covered that. I see when i flip around to another planet or digging things up and looking for water and collecting rocks and analyze. Campy this mad at two. Oh five i will. You hit a sore. What are you going to do in five fifty five. Probably pass out proper plate. You gotta hit best vaccine story. Best vaccine strong shirk with up for a good vaccine story. This was the best way around the system that i heard when out with With with people saturday night. Right and this guy. does not qualify for a vaccine. And he's got plenty of money tan. He thought beat the system a bribe. Well he. He became an uber driver for a day. An uber delivery guy. Overeats uber eats So he signed up for uber. Eats he delivered one bag of food. From mcdonald's made four dollars gives you an idea how they pay and that that gave him a credential to go and get a vaccine because he was a food service worker. That's smart and that was it. He never did another thing to check. Credential i wonder i guess we're hearing stories second anywhere and you know people have done that. Yeah no i well. He said so. Many people have done that that it actually screwed up the uber because they think they have lots and lots of drivers now that they don't have because there one day because they were one day one our server and they're getting They're getting message sack. Mcdonald's go pick up a bag of mcdonald's and people are looking and saying. I don't think so i got my vaccine. My neighbors kids do that. Little tiny bag of mcdonald's is he the guy he gets out with like a soda. I think i'm running out. Thank you guy. The guy goes and waits for the next next week. I was in a couple of places where they came in to get the only spot. The the food delivery guy. No some of them are sad. Little disheveled look at them. And it's like well. Of course your food delivery guy get the vaccine. I wouldn't want to touch in my bag. Don't well we're here to tell you that we're both fully vaccinated. It's all three of us. Rates and ray to what about eric eric. You are too right now. Second shot the sixth. He's really young. That hap- yeah you're twelve years old. How'd you get one all right. Okay we told you. Think yes so you know so Kind of what we all did we did. We'd actually like no one to come in here anyway if anyone else in the building right. It's because we're vaccinated doesn't mean we want any company any visitors and talking to us all right never tend pretend we're still Infected or currently infectious and took shot. Rundown is that you're the only one that had anything. You've got woozy. The other day right sitting here in front of me and suddenly you stood up. You're gonna feel kind of lusi. Wanted to go a nap. I very wanted to crawl into a corner and ball up and go to sleep. I felt like crap that the second shot second shot. Yeah that's supposed to mean your immune system is saying hello. My immune system woke up woke. My dad woke immune system and wouldn't shut mark. I had nothing but a swan. A sore arm to which was still today exist yesterday. You're five feet tall and hundred pounds. It seems like that vaccine would have had some sometimes. Immune system's shot. There's just nothing there to wake up. Yeah well that worried me for a few minutes. And then i said whatever against john is. I was so tired of this. I had a neck ache. My arm was sore. The whole arm the joint and the shoulder and i was brain foggy. I just couldn't concentrate. I went home that night. And i sat on a sofa staring. Wow i was it was. It was like a hangover without the fun and And i don't know if this was hardest problem but saturday night into sunday morning. Yeah i slept nine and a half hours without moving which hasn't happened in many years. I think i'd have to take an overseas trip to make that happen. Yes and have your your. Your be disrupted for data half but not nine and a half hours. I slept and was three years ago. Something like that. My doctor gave me the shingles vaccine and some other vaccine. I can't remember one in each arm and that the next well that day i was just i thought i was going to take a quick nap. Two hours later i woke up. Like what the hell was the vr. By by the way we were joking about my friend becoming an uber driver a vaccine. Eric got his vaccine. Even though he's only twelve years old The day i went it was nothing but young women in their twenties be essential workers. I guess i don't right. Well past the nurse's week or the nurses period we shouldn't have signed genders. Could be doctors now. These weren't doctors. You're judging by the a lot of likes and well. yeah no. They're too young. Because dr spent those spend all these things in their hair fluffing there. Hey and they wanna look good to know female doctors. They were serious in that these. It looked like a line to register for courses in college or a music concert line. That's what it looked like. Maybe they work in the school cafeteria or they work in the jin. Eligible is a good one. It was a shabby looking graphite some gender example and there wasn't a single person who looked like there were over sixty five but two hundred people in my life. When i got there. There were one hundred in front of me. And i time i got to the front of the line that we're hundred behind me. It took some pictures. Because i sent into my wife. It's like this is not an over sixty five crowd here. it was. It was just a young young kids. I went to cal state. La which is the drive through and by the way yesterday was the second shot only so the line was quick and debt was so well organized. You got to say hats off to fema in the national guard. The national doing. They kept it organized. They were very polite. National guard should do everything except one car in front of me. Took forever talking to them because they want to see your id. That's all they do. And i kept going. What's going on what happened to be in that line. And then i saw it pulled over and i saw one with a little jacket. It said mandir interpreter. Here they have assigned with stuck one hundred languages. They can find somebody to speak your language if that's really yes abroad. An interpreter. a hundred languages the did might be one person knows like ten languages. They might be well. Sure right so. I don't know but there was some little jacket on said man an interpreter right so they were working with like try to make them understand. There's something was not right. He couldn't understand what he's instructions. Were speaking languages. I had a run in with the city today. I called three one one. I go to my local rec center where i play tennis. And we work out and the entrance to the parking lot shut. They have big metal bars. Ma'am and nobody came and unlocked the locked to it up and this happens every once in a while you should because it's a holiday got there and there's virtually no parking on the street the legal parking. I'm thinking all right. What holiday could this be. As i made seven days as is wednesday. No they took it off today. Only did okay. Thank of at. And and i love the monday things so i called her three one one at seven thirty. Because i've done this before. I say gee send somebody over unlock the gates. So people can park because nobody was using the park. All the tennis courts were clear all the grass area and this man areas walk clear. Everybody normally is there. Everybody was gone because he can't find parking right. I called the first time i called. I get. Eric said he's speaking spanish to me. And then it tells me Press one for english. Press two for spanish pet press three for other languages and maybe that would give you the list of one hundred and they would find one of the interpreters cal state la. I don't know what they do. And then and then i called back after eight. And i get somebody and she goes well. Everybody's off today for cesar chavez holiday. I go caesar shabas day. The march thirty first. She said the whole city is closed. I said well out here in the real world. Everybody's working maybe government. It's closed but in the government areas she goes. I'm sorry there's nothing i can do about it. And then i said well you're working. Why don't you come over here and open the gate. Well thank you very much. Her up on these are a few of my favorite things. Are we still doing that. Stimulus thing we are okay. All right so you chance at the keyword to text in to double your stimulus when we come back. We'll talk about what's happening on thursday. That's when people ages fifty to sixty four can get vaccinated. You didn't california but let me tell you a little twist to that. Also the cdc director got very emotional today very worried about america with corona virus impending doom. We'll talk about all that. I am convinced. All these people really are emotionally insane damaged. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show ken chiampou. Kfi and six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio apple. Now you can play your stimulus here for your chance to double your fourteen hundred dollar stimulus check text nationwide keyword cash. See into two hundred two hundred. You'll get a confirmation text info standard data and message rates apply in this nationwide contest. Grads cashed two hundred two hundred cash. Two hundred two hundred phone rings answer it even recognize the number likely coming from the five one three area code at maybe the money and listen to. Kfi at five twenty this afternoon free last winning keyword of the day but let's pay attention to the science right with the science. Come from the cdc it. That's a new study strong evidence that m. r. n. a covid nineteen. Vaccines are highly effective. That would be madonna and pfizer in preventing sars cova to infections in real world conditions among health care personnel first responders other essential workers. This is a brand new study. We now have real world experience to draw from almost four thousand participants of thirteen weeks from december through march. So there you go and it stops transmission and that was the big question and studies the pfizer vaccine in israel. Shield yielded similar results. You are right. It prevents a symptomatic infections as well as a symptomatic spreads. So if you get the vaccine even if the virus gets into you it will be killed before you can transmit it to someone else. Which is why we're puzzled. Because here is the c. d. c. director today at some white house press briefing. And she's getting a bit emotional. Her name is rachelle wolinsky. I'm gonna pause here. I'm gonna lose this correct. And i'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling of impending here. We have so much to look forward to and promised potential of where we are and so much reason for hope but right. Now i'm staring. I know what it's like is a physician to stand in that patient room. Downs loved masked shielded and to me the last person to touch someone else. A loved one because there couldn't there. I know what it's like when you're the physician with the healthcare provider and you're worried that you don't have the resources to take care of the patients in front of you. I know that feeling of nausea when you read the crisis standards of care and you wonder whether they're going to be enough ventilators to go around and who's going to make the choice and i know what it's like to your hospital every day and seeing the extra more sitting outside i didn't know at the time when it would then it would stop. We didn't have the fines to tell us we were just scared. We have come such a long way three historic scientific breakthrough vaccines and we are rolling out so very fast. So i'm speaking today not necessarily as your cdc director not only is your cedar director says a wife as a mother as a daughter to ask you to. Please hold on a little while longer. We are not in a warp. That's not from a year ago. I d that speech. You would give an april twenty twenty or maybe even the summer or here in california later last year but By the way if you look at the numbers. I mean sixty five and older in the us. They're getting the vaccine in big and those are the ones that get sick. I don't know why she's panicking if we have more spread. It's going to be among young people and there will not be that hospital affected. Just it's not shown by the data they can't let go there so emotionally invested in controlling your life and frightening you. They cannot let go which is why the media was highlighting featuring top of the their web pages her little speech because this is the last gasp to control your life to make you feel scared so they could get more hits more eyeballs four years. Add this doctor. Rochelle wolinsky in there. She came in late on the national stage. She wants her. Dr fauci moment she wants. She wants to be remembered impending doom on pending doom. Yes she actually well. Did you see today. I thought i was in a time. Warp what website was not the new york times. The paris hospitals were overwhelmed. They iraq sedate in france. I thought that might be part of the reason. Because they're in. The situation that we were in new york was in a year ago. Apparently they're doing that same thing where they may have to work on some patients and forgo others because they can't be saved them like wow this march. How did that happen because the vaccine roll out for the eu was poor was terrible now. Great britain. Good thing they did a brexit. They separated they had their own vaccine routine They had zero deaths in england. They have the astra zeneca from oxford. But you know how many people vaccinated in the us got at least one vaccine. yeah million. it's the third one hundred million. Got it about thirty million have had confirmed cases again. They tend to multiply the number of people who probably got infected and may be may have been a symptomatic you multiply by four. We might have two hundred and twenty million people in this country and in that hundred million with antibiotics sixty five and older. Yeah that's the key here. That's who gets the worst and who dies. I don't care how many degrees she has. What a resume looks like chicken. Little the craig's is falling this create impending doom impending doom. I heard the cases were up seven percent last week in the. Us the yes he calls it a plateau we don't want a plateau cases. Don't matter god cases don't matter it's probably college kids after spring break. Just stop it. This is ridiculous. In fact if the cdc announces that the vaccine is ninety percent effective and the same day. she's talking about impending doom. Why don't you go back to your office. Figure out ways to roll out the vaccine even more quickly and we're getting ready for big stuff here beginning on thursday everybody fifty and older can be vaccinated. Although i ran into a few people over the weekend that were trying to jump in and book appointments for after april first you cannot. You have to wait until april. I if you're fifty and older if you're gonna use that as age at start real early in the morning but they were like but i'm trying to put in tape. Why can't i. They're not letting you do that. So and then. He got two weeks before the eligible sixteen and older. So they're calling it the the rough two week window for people aged fifty to sixty four before. Yeah although i don't think they're promising a big increase in supply chain gavin newsom state and there are also will not be a huge stampede under fifty because a lot of younger people are gonna take their time to get the vaccine. They don't feel at risk but you saw them all in line. You saw those girls. They're all their twenties and thirties. He said they're all lined up. Yeah but i still don't think there's going to be a big vaccine. They they might have They were the exceptions. You think of that age range. Oh anybody showing up that early. Yeah they were worried. Well yeah the dip remarks exactly. Hey i'm happy for them fully vaccinated. Call me what you want with digging from day one. I was so what kept you up last night. Nothing actually kept me up last night. I think i think i was okay. Schlep the cdc directly. When i woke up this morning i wasn't thrilled. Hearing about the impending doom tape did hear that. Yes of course and i thought okay. Great vaccinated four. You know what's going to happen with all the variants. And was it a waste of time that i got vaccinated. I'm gonna have to get another booster to make sure i'm okay. You can like news alerts on your phone at three in the morning. You're staring at because it lit up. I i do get alerts. But i don't i don't i don't look them in the middle of the night unless i happen to be up and you always happen to be up. We got were covered up john and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. So as you know last week or big story was what was going on at echo park lake and the large homeless encampment that was eventually dismantled and then fenced off. It took a couple of days but they -posedly got everybody out of there. I haven't seen an update that anybody crawled back in. They're supposed to do repairs These people took about half the park up and Did some damage and created their own thriving commune society. But that was enough even for one of the council people mitchell farrell. His and. that's that's it. We got shut this down. So when i saw the headline i admit i was taken for a loop. I almost wasn't going to read the article. And the headline in the el segundo time was the echo park. Homeless camp has gone. What does it mean for la. And i thought oh it's going to be the hand wringing what are we doing now. We're just taking people out of the places that they managed to sleep at night and we're just going to throw them back instead. It was basically people who were telling the el segundo times. Hey what about my neighborhood. Why can't they do this here. That would be great. Yup and then progressive activists fear that the aggressive tack echo. Park could become a playbook. I hope the activists are terrified that their money is going to dry up because they're not going to be able to pull stunts anymore. Keeping local residents out of the parks that they paid for twelve yoga pants to the press conference friday which i didn't see. He called it the largest housing transition of an encampment ever in the city's history assuming they've all now like they're in permanent housing here. I don't care it doesn't matter what he says. he did suggest it could be replicated. Well yet prove it do it again. Clear out the parks and some guy complained some activists that will they don't do this with the alleyways of la. That's next. it is every everybody should be cleared out of any public area anywhere where people live or they Go to parks anywhere. They play where they live anywhere. They work these vagrants should be gone. Just keep shoving them out chasing them away. I zero tolerance like they have in many cities. The playgrounds though has a more universal appeal. You don't want people camping there. Well as bad. Because sometimes they burn up the businesses and they leave all their trash. I'm not saying that. Go but you start the same you start with the parks and then and then go onto the next category and the next category anywhere where normal people live. We should not be impacted by the vagrants at all zero zero tolerance. It doesn't matter what these activists say. Ultimately they have no power. We've got the police. The police have their weapons. You guys lose out go. We just all we need. You can't arrest your way out of this watch me. If i was the mayor i would give a speech. Saying we're gonna arrest our way out of this. That's what i would do. We find you laying on the ground. You're under arrest. How about that one. What are you gonna do. You're you're you're violating the law. You can go to fifteen judges. They're all gonna say he's violating the law now. The guy that's running for mayor bush sciortino. That's the councilman. That's his is from. Watch the san pedro the way he put. It is exactly what you're saying though. He put it kinder saying the approach of intensive outreach to followed by a choice date must become the standard. If we're going to move people living on our streets into a better situation we no longer had the luxury to wait until people already. Which is the problem. They go there and like you. Don't want services okay. We'll come back in a month. You don't want to be back in a year because you either want to get rid of them or you don't when you want to get rid of them you say here are the choices. Here's the deadline. If you're not going we're going to force you out. That's all you have to say. There's no need to have a roundtable discussion that goes on for three and a half hours. These are the choices like you deal with. Children did it the sent in a riverbed as well and it worked they went to everybody. They took their information. They sat with them. They decided so. Which category you in. You're going to accept services you're not going to accept services mountain drug help. You need alcohol. Help art we're gonna give it to you and we're going to give you transportation getting over and what you have and if you stay here. There's an end date. Connect your votes when you vote for a councilman or mayor. Connect your vote to the living conditions. You see with your own two is if you have all kinds of Vagrants turning your park. Filthy and disgusting. Look at the guy who's the councilman that's your fault. If you voted for it is what. I'm into blame the victim. I always blame the victim. I always say what did the victim due to put themselves in. What is what did the risks. What is the risk. The victim talk. What is the action. The victim did not take and here. I really fed up with people. You have to stop complaining bitching about the homeless sleeping in your park you elected mitchell farrell and he ignored you for many years. I don't know what finally triggered him to do. Something and garcetti. But if you if you had removed him and and voted for somebody who is against homeless people. Defiling the park. This could have been done years ago. And as your fault one worth watching councilwoman nitya rahman she's new to the scene but boy she's another and she was horrified. The sudden closure of the park the massive. Lapd presence the use of force against protesters. Well a guy that lives in her districting charlie collins said what do you know she has time to show up for a photo op and echo park. But she cannot come down and meet with the neighbors who've been asking for months to meet with her face to face about encampments in los feeless and hollywood see that's typical and john. Of course it had to come up. Mike bonds venice. One guy in this story says it's a powder cake here. And i think venice is probably the worst place in the city of la right now with the homeless problem and bond let that whole thing. Get hold dumped. There's one encampment on the beachfront. That's growing the more than two hundred tents. This guy says that's another one. They can have the beachfront me because they're criminals. Shouldn't they just open their special homeless. What what did he call those places. Garcetti the bridge shepherds home right. That was that was a scam. What happened with that. How come these people on. The beach aren't in there because there aren't enough beds and everybody cycles in and cycles out and everybody came to this but you've tolerance you can't do your drugs in a bridge home you can't drink in abridge home. You're not gonna get your medication. Charles curfews this. I could some homeless policy on one half of one page. You mental mental patients to a mental clinic alcoholics to alcohol rehab drug addicts to drug rehab and two story. There's nothing else to do. You cannot sleep in public anymore. Ever if we find you we will give you all the choices will give you a shelter or we're going to forcibly remove you that that's your choices. Nellie up a page you really wanna live off the grid and indulge in your addictions then head somewhere. Where there's nobody around you for miles. The thing is you can find a piece of land way up in the woods somewhere. I guess that'll be okay. And they'll go if you force them. Every one of them left Echo park lake every one of them left the santa river bed when they were forced to go they all went because they have no leverage. They have their choice. We have more power than they do. But it's your fault you elect these idiots idiots you elect them you walk or you don't elect you let some other a bunch of fools do it if you just in your job once every four years once every four years maybe ten minutes and vote for somebody who says. I'll get rid of the homeless. That's all coming up. After three o'clock we're gonna have a special guest from orange county. His name was travis call. He's one of these people that fosters children he and his wife and he says he and others who foster children had been getting calls about taking an extra children. You know who the extra children are the migrant children the unaccompanied minors at the border. He's got a lot to say about this and he also claims that they will get special immigration status. That's right path to citizenship. You'll talk to us after three john and ken. Kfi am six forty. Johnny can show live everywhere in the iheart radio app. We'll be talking next hour to a man by the of travis got in touch with us. He is one of these foster parents who got a phone call about the possibility of taking even more kids. They're currently fostering. It says here to four month. Old twins will also caring for their own six-year-old biological twins and they run a nonprofit he and his wife fighting against human trafficking in california. And you'll hear him explain. Exactly what's wrong with this story. When we talked to him being asked to take in twenty six or more migrant children social services are trying to scramble to place these kids because as you know not sending them back and when they have them in custody they try to find somebody in the us that can take them but sometimes there may not be relatives or anybody sponsor they're asking. I really don't understand that line. They're asking some parents if they could take in twenty six kids by themselves. Say we'll ask him if that's what they asked him. But that's seems could you. You'd have to have like a mansion. Yeah and a lot of staff that or use cages i. We have cages in the backyard. But you know he's got a good point bites people say well that's great. That's what we're doing. He thinks this is in some way. Aiding and abetting trafficking what we know that the smugglers are bringing a lot of these kids here for money and if you help the kids get in the country. And then they get a foothold. But that's just going to send the message. Back bring more kids smugglers smugglers are making over two billion dollars a year in human trafficking roaring to billionaire as much as you feel bad for the kids and you want to provide a home for the wrong. Their parents have the responsibility to keep their kids in the house. And stay where they are. That's their responsibility. it's not there. It's our responsibility to take on their problems when we have no place to put them. That's that's just wrong. We're starting to find out more detail who the fraudsters wore that stole all that money from the california unemployment. This is the employment development department fraud. A man by the name of edward kim. This story was arrested in september in las vegas. They nabbed him at a hotel. You must have gotten a tip. They found him with meth and thirty two debit cards. Thirty two of them and he said oh. I help people file. Unemployment claims in exchange for ten percent kickback. That's all i do. Well twenty three of those cards were the name of prison. Inmates apopka as loon there. That is gavin newsom system there. If fact this kim ended up granting over three million dollars he and his conspiritors withdrew at least one point nine million in illegal. Add payments from the atm machines. He went out and bought himself. Eighty two thousand dollars truck. Because that's what you have to do money laundering as soon as you get that cash go spend it because otherwise they'll just take it back from you. I mean they could take possession of the goods but you make it easier. If you just start spending but now you leave a paper trail of the things you bought. I wonder if the smart thing to do for Hide to cash. Well yes actually take the cash out of the atm see clear out the accounts but then it really just hold onto the cash in some way. Don't dig a hole in the desert hall and just sit on it for a long time. That's right until the said they can't find the cash able to prove that you stole if you suddenly start buying a lot very quickly. That's exactly the kind of like you on the video withdrawing that money what do you have to say it. Just i not be. And that's where you put a stocking over your head and say it's for covid purposes. He apparently did a good fief. If i had the nerve e. d. applications for the inmates claims were filed by kim indicating that these claimants had an annual income of seventy two thousand. And we're unemployed due to the pandemic now this reported income on the fraudulent applications caused. Ed to pay the maximum amount. I guess he knew what the magic number was. Yes it's it's easy to figure it out. I mean and take him and multiply him by thousands thousands of guys what they did and and again gavin newsom. All you had to do early on is allow the e d d to do a cross match with the names of prisoners and this would have been other state office and gavin newsom. He actually wrote a decree saying no that would be a violation of the prisoners. Privacy rights even the death row inmates so they didn't do an easy computer match on the names and this guy walked away with millions of dollars and that was newsome's policy that he signed his words that was his deal. You know kim went further. He did something else too. He also allegedly filed two hundred and ninety seven fraudulent tax returns using stolen ideas to obtain twenty two thousand covid. Nineteen stimulus payments. West guy really went to work during the pandemic he was like. This is my time. this is my there. Daddy had met. That may have trip them up. And there's a soul and government that cares because all the government wants. Is this money to go out into the system to pump up the economy. They don't care how it gets into the system. This guy buying an eighty two thousand dollar cars. The same as you and i buy one but they don't. They decided to relax eligibility requirements. And yet they could never get through and get their claims legitimately unemployed last week story. There was a because they don't care yet. They still have a nineteen eighty system but if they open the floodgates and don't care how come the people that actually deserve the money. A lot of them didn't get it. I guess because they've got overwhelmed. That was the other part of this. Yeah right yeah. I mean this quick in because i actually think these guys are smarter and a lot of these guys probably got blocked out too. But they're not gonna go call and complaint right. You're going to just try to find another avenue. It's like all right. Let's go steal the cova money. So there's a million people who still are waiting on their unemployment benefits a million and get that is new california. A million legitimate citizens can't get unemployment benefits and look at these characters. Recall recall recall. We'll have more on that later. A couple of interesting stories when we return though we told you. We're going to talk to a man by the name of travis call for marriage count from orange county. He and his wife to take in foster children. They also run a nonprofit fighting human trafficking. There one of those people that got a call from social services. Ask you if they could take in a lot of migrant children. 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Carl Douglas

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Carl Douglas

"Many of you here have delighted like we have in listening to Carl Douglas Talk. We were fascinated by him. In the OJ Simpson documentary that one espn an Oscar and since he's become sort of lawyer for the show, great talker obviously heard him recently be very strong on the subject of race. His history with civil rights and law go way back, and so what I wanted to talk to him about is sort of his career. Because it's an interesting one, he's been part of the strongest black law firm in the history of this country. One could argue and so I just. Just wanted to talk to him about that. And representing OJ Simpson and representing Michael Jackson, so we will do that in a moment, but first I want to tell you that south beach session sponsored by Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter. You know is the smartest way to hire Thanks to Ziprecruiter for supporting everything here at Lebatardshow infringe checkout, stupidity, checkout, mystery crate Rate Subscribe Review Sarahspain. Meena Crimes Marty Smith, all parts of the Libertad and friends network, a Carl Douglas has become a friend of the show. Let's include him in on Lebatardshow friends and learn a little bit about his career. Carl Douglas, we discovered him like many of you. In the OJ Simpson documentary that is one of the finest pieces of television I ever seen, and he was almost the star of it. You can't really say he's The star. Because I guess OJ Simpson was the star, but his stories were so good and so rich and weirdly honest for a lawyer that I really enjoyed talking to him and so now I just want to talk to him. Him about other stories because he's a great storyteller, and because he doesn't mind you sort of giving you the truth behind some of what it is that he's experienced, so thank you for being on with us and I'm just going to get right to the questions. I want to hear about the night that Michael Jackson and Simpson were both calling you at the same time because they needed legal advice. Yes, December, twenty, seven, nineteen, ninety four. The trial of the century was about to start in January for some. We had taken two weeks off for Christmas holidays after picking a jury and we're GONNA start with. Heavy DNA testimony in January, so all the lawyers were, hunker down and get ready for the trial of the century for some reason Robert Shapiro and his family went to Hawaii. For those two weeks, and he checked into a hotel under an alias like Tony. Milo or something like that. And there was then behind. No one could understand how he could go on vacation during the most important two weeks before the trial that while we would learn a lot after that about just the spawning Kardashians. They live in a totally different world arrest this human being yes, that's extraordinarily bad legal judgment, but this was the guy that OJ. OJ trusted right correct. What's so there was a decision made announced to me that Johnny was gonNA become the lead lawyer. You GotTa understand that Bob. Shapiro had never really tried a murder case before Oj, Simpson so these he was commanding. It was a general commanding others into the war, but he had never been in a war before himself. Well, let's just say what it is right. He's totally overmatched as an attorney. He's the rich guy that OJ. Knows that he knows. Do I. Have it wrong. My factually wrong. You're saying that, not me. Dan was Hollywood fixer. Marlon Brando's lawyer Don amount of a deep on a good deal, but he wasn't known for being a trial lawyer, but Johnny was so December twenty seven I got a call from Oj Simpson, and he told me that he wanted me to become the coordinator of the team. that. He was going to be making a change and that Johnny was GonNa. Be The league lawyer. We all knew man. It was going to happen sooner or later, but that was the official change. Later that night. We also represent a Michael Jackson then and you gotta understand. Michael was really really paranoid and whenever Michael would call he would I use a disguised voice. Lowest Carl there. And I think yes, this is Carl. He didn't awhile. I did not know he could do a deep voice, so he was calling in disguise, he would actually call in disguise. And when you said you were, he would then change his voice. He would make me go to the very back of my house in the laundry room to the bathroom and close the door and talk with him, then even though my wife was in the far end sleeping and my five year old son was in the bit. But I had to go through my laundry room to my back bathroom and talk with him on the phone and that same day he talked with with me about his case so I was only the second person on earth. Being Johnny Cochran. Who had OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson both talking to them that same night about their case, Bro I could not sleep that entire nights. I'm wondering. How do you find? What's the back story on how you find yourself? I mean this is an uncommon path. Right? The idea that somebody in the mid nineties could go through everything America had gone through and become a black attorney, talking to Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson on the same night that to you in terms of celebrity star power like what's the path that leads to you ending up there because it's improbable, correct what people who are not? Not from Los Angeles a don't understand is Johnny Cochran was always as famous in Los Angeles before Oj, as he became nationwide after Oj when Michael Jackson I got in his problems with the first young kid, he called on Johnny Cochran when he was in Mexico. Not Knowing whether there were charges against him, because Johnny was just the man and Johnny Audio Garcetti. They were personal friends and found out there were no charges pending against Michael, and then Johnny Elizabeth Taylor's airplanes fly down to Mexico and debris Michael Jackson back from Mexico. It's funny Dan because we had to ask for my permission to represent OJ Simpson. Because Michael was our client I. And Michael was very much the brother all he needs help help out. But. We've I wanted to make sure that Michael was cool with are coming on the O.. J. Simpson, Chase What is your back story like? How do you end up and explained to me? Go back to your teenage years and explained to me how you arrive there and how improbable that path is okay, so Johnny Cochran. I'm raised from Los Angeles lives. I was to Johnny, was always the man or black Los Angeles because he represented people who were victimized by police. Came back to La after going to college at northwestern Chicago. Law Schools UC Berkeley and Berkeley and I came back to La and worked at the federal public defender's office for five years, representing people that are charged with federal crimes. Then Los Angeles was the bank robbery capital of the world, three ways and bates were on every corner. They did not have the PLEXIGLAS and the eighties. Eighty percent of the FBI was on bank robbery detail in the mid eighties. When I was there I was there for five. Five years one of my best buddies told me that Johnny Cochran of looking for a lawyer and I was someone come in and try case I can try a criminal case. And because Johnny had a criminal background, he knew I could try a civil case, and so I had that combination of US criminal background and a civil background that made it right for Michael. Jackson, and for O. J. Simpson. Could you talk to Johnny Cochran Away? A lot of the other attorneys there wouldn't dare talk to Johnny Cochran. Vote for better or for worse, I was one who always Dave Truth Dan I tell every client today that I have a condition. I suffer from terminal honesty. I will tell them what I think. Even if they may not wanna hear it man, because that's just the way I am I got a story I remember. It was in the post. OJ Simpson. Johnny Cochran was the biggest man on earth, and he was wearing a to pay for the bald spots in the center back of his head. We in the office knew it was a to pay, and it looks stupid. But. Everyone was afraid to tell Johnny dig that shit off your head. So. I gather with the staff. Is that I'M GONNA? Tell them and they said No. You will know you and I walked into his office I was the manager that first among equals of his staff. He was the lone partner in the law office of Johnny Cochran, Jr. but I was the managing lower than the firm, and I sat with them Johnny. Take that shit out your hair. It looks stupid. You are young as it is, and you don't need that. Shouldn't you're here? Because? Then? When he walked through the office, the incandescent lights shone differently in the two brave man, and it looks stupid, and I could not have Johnny Cochran my icon. My hero be made to look as stupid as it was, and it might have been maybe a week or two weeks or maybe a month. He kept that in, but because the me, he got out. Eventually. Do and he did thank you, so how about in that moment? Because that had to be a little bit jarring to hear because you reach a certain point in success Karl where people absolutely do not tell you the truth, they they. They'll let you look ridiculous because you've acquired so much success that people get afraid to tell you the real stuff. Perhaps that's who I am as a person Dan, but it reflects my love and respect for Johnny, Cochran one thing I can say about Johnny Cochran. Twelve years man and Johnny respected you one. If you can make a payroll and two, if you could try a case every year, I was there, I lost at least one case every year, and never once did. He criticized me for having lost the case because he knew you can't get a home run unless you're up there swinging the Batman, so it was my love of him. That may need tell him that. She was still been explained to me. They'll how he became an icon for you because. I don't know that the audience at large. This was a long time ago I. Don't know that the audience at large understands what Johnny Cochran was as a symbol. That is the value I think as a civil rights lawyer from Los Angeles of that Fabulous Oscar Award winning documentary, because the first four hours were nothing about. But it gave you some context of the historical connection between the American community, and the LAPD here and now one Dan can ever appreciate how the OJ Simpson verdict was. Without understanding that context and from young twenty seven year old lawyer. Family representing, you'll love back in the early eighties. Johnny became a symbol of the fight. Against All that was wrong in Los Angeles when you hear about the problems of black and Brown people and the police nationwide man. We were Ground Zero in Los Angeles for my entire life, so johnny was always the icon and the ball worked for that, which would brought the love of black and Brown people in Los Angeles? Is it fair to say that Johnny? Cochran was akin because? Because of the specific work that he was doing and shining light on that, he was essentially Al Sharpton that he was Jesse Jackson that he was park. Religious leader part legal leader part civil rights leader that he was. I mean I don't mean to turn him into a saint, because everybody is a little bit flawed, but you're talking about one of the great black leaders of all time. and. I, you do a disservice to him by comparing him to Jesse. Jackson and Al Sharpton Icee, so should I go to Martin Luther King should I go like honestly given the work that he was doing given that he's doing in the court system given that he's fighting an unjust systemic problem that not a lot of people outside of Los Angeles knew about who weren't black, and what's more, he was more than simply a civil rights icon and leader in the black community, because he joined the District Attorney's Office Win John Van De Kamp, was the DA and he was the number three man for? For three years in the District Attorney's office and while there he created the DA rollout unit were lawyers district attorney were sent on rollout to any and every officer involved shooting that was in nineteen, eighty, one, that was a ground-breaking then, and that still goes on today now across the country whenever there is an officer involved shooting. You're gonNA, have a district attorney. There somewhere close. It's GonNa. Be a whitewash. They're not gonNA find anything to charge the cops with a crime, but at least they're gonna be there and the cops know that they are there and that's something that he started erase. Of His commitment to the ideals of civil rights, and and and the plight of black and Brown people in Los Angeles and the world. Man Why do I do a disservice to him by comparing him putting him in the? Because, those were the famous black leaders of the time whether or not, they did what black folks wanted them doing whether they were good. Leaders are not as another is another matter. But why am I doing a disservice when I compare Johnny Cochran two of the most famous black leaders and civil rights that they've been. I know their history perhaps more than you or some of your listeners, and because of their history I take their. GRAVITAS in a greater context and they are not the the iconic black leaders that many may say because I know their history I appreciate what they've done. And their contribution to the SPROGOE, but their weaknesses to me overshadow my praise for their enlightenment. So did you see along the path? It go to Johnny's head. Did you see because there are certain inevitability to success and I gotta think that at. At some point, the ego ran amok there well, he always had a big ego bre Johnny Cochran live in Los, feeless, which was the exclusive white community in the seventies when nobody in black was doing it Johnny Cochran a drove a Rolls Royce in early seventies when nobody had rolls royces okay I remember after the trial within a month, we were in Miami at the Miami airport going to meet. This kid in in jail federal prison in Miami and Johnny got off the plane wearing a purple jacket walking down the center of the aisle in the Miami. Air Board a week after the verdict I this day back that one voice cell phones where? He was revelling walking bell. Now our way, no one who. The most dangerous place to be in America is between a trial lawyer and a camera. That's working less there being no now. We have massive egos man. His Swag specifically made him different for the time because the things that you're talking about their. Thick, they could not have been very common in fact I can see now where and how it is, you'd be attracted to somebody. who was that kind of showman? Johnny Cochran went to Los Angeles High School in the sixties before it was integrated. With Dustin Hoffman, he was, he went to Ucla and was a star on the court quarterback on the football team before it was fashionable, so he was always a bed of the curve man. I'm telling for him to be living Los. Angeles in the seventies and the black lawyer was so out of bounds. Lack lawyers then lived in Baldwin hills or Ladera. Heights other portions Nebraska Beverly Hills, win venture out to the hills of those feelers for him to be driving a Rolls Royce in the early Seventies. Okay, it was like the parade going through town and Johnny had this rare ability to connect with kings and poppers alike. He could go to a fancy restaurant and he go to knock us a little hole in the wall, an incompetent and eat hamburgers than have the juicer off his lips. When you say that it was inevitable that Johnny, Cochran was going to take over the Oj Simpson case. Are you saying because his merits meredith it so much more than any of the other lawyers? Are you saying that a percentage of that is because it became obvious very early that this needed to be represented by black people, because this was going to become a trial about race, or are you saying it's a mixture of the two or neither? It's a one. It became apparent as we were preparing for trial that Shapiro was behind the curve. We might have had met. I had eight or nine notebooks of reports and interviews and things, and you can tell in the meetings by asking questions where you were. And, we knew Shapiro with not up to speed. There were nine lawyers working at some point or other on on the case, all nine of US knew who the trial lawyer words. and Johnny had such charisma and such skill that it was clear he was gonna be the leader. There was not any dispute of the change when Oj chose to make the change, and it was OJ's choice. Is it at that moment that the realization dawns on everyone? Oh, this is going to be a trial about race. It's going to be large and symbolic. Or did that happen later? Did the decision on how it is to go about the defense happen later than Dan as as was reflected documentary, Shapiro had the thing about furman and raced before Johnny was ever in the case, and that's the irony man, because the DA's knew about about firms issues with race. Before we ever came in the case, and that for better or for worse, fixed the defense, you could not rightly do. Do a proper defense given that credit from the eighties where he said I was so angry at black people that I will beat them up. I want to the beliefs force. That was monitoring Evan, so you could not possibly allow that to go silent, so that stormed the defense from the very beginning, and so, how did you end up helping in? What ways did you end up helping Michael Jackson as you're going into. Your back room and he's paranoid. You gotTA. You gotTA. Have some amazing stories about how unusual. Cast Man I was really the first young African American professional that ever was around Michael Jackson, most of his advisors were Anglo and they were there, and when he brought Johnny Cochran on that was unique and unusual for him, because I was I had a unique perspective of both criminal and Civil Johnny brought me to handle the late in his case and I was. Was? Michael Jackson's lawyer off and on for ten years even after I left. Janis firm I would still advise. Michael Jackson I was involved. You remember there was a time when he was in trial in Santa Maria, and he on top of a van astor the court, and had an umbrella dancing on top of the van. I had a meeting with him after that. Michael Are you crazy? What are you doing on some van? You can't do that stuff. And because we were closed, I would like five or six years old and Michael, but we were close in age and I was my honest self. He was always surrounded by sycophants that did not want to slay the goose laying the golden egg. Oh, but he's such a child. Though wasn't. He was just a child. Never. Outlook. He never had a child then. It really was sad. He never had a childhood. From nine or ten, he was thrust into this regimented lifestyle that his father was able to create. So that they could rise to stardom so I get it, but he missed his childhood in that moment well, he spent it in his adulthood. He can remember I never felt like you say he didn't have a childhood. Okay, so he was made a business professional as a prodigy early on, but he clearly spent the next thirty years like the only way that I can explain to anybody the deviance. deviance of the charges that fell upon him is the idea that somewhere mentally he had atrophied where the only thing he could connect with in any way was kids because even seem to understand adult at all? He seemed to be somebody who was just a child, and it's no defensive. Because some of the things, he's been charged with pretty indefensible, even by your standards as someone who will defend. For reasonable and yet that's what I always assume with him that the charges are true because he had no earthly understanding of sexually how to be an adult like Egypt, had no connection point with adults. I understand your perspective. And because he was my clients, and some of my views are shaped by personal interviews and comments with him, I'm going to hold off giving Mike respected are but a lot of things. I was for example lawyer that traveled to Vegas Win. The first settlement agreement was signed by him. I was the witness he was at a bungalow in Vegas and I'm not gonNA close. They're getting us. Is Garowe. In. Could. Open the door he comes in, and my goal was a musical genius. He was not the most area night. He did not have the greatest attention span. He had he had a security guard for twenty years, Bill. and Bill would tell us okay guys when you're meeting when Michael Starts Humming, then you know it's time to stop the meeting. and. We would. We would have a meeting me. Johnny Howard Weitzman we would fly to never land from the Santa Monica Airport and helicopter the coolest thing in the world Kobe my heart's with you, but it's a cool thing in the world flying helicopters to a meeting. And, we Li- there about forty minutes done to Ohi, meet with Michael in one of his officers, that at the ranch and talk about the case, and after about two hundred eight twenty baht minutes, he was starting. And you knew it was about he was losing attention span. It was time to go then, but he did have a unique life. It was not enjoyable. Be careful what you ask for. He was a prisoner of his success. He was a he was a prisoner. He was unhappy like that. That had to be clear right because. There was no freedom in the way that he was living. It sort of the what you're saying. It's the Gypsy curse. May you get everything in life that you wish for because it's a curse, but but Dan I. Don't know if he was unhappy because everything he wanted he was able to obtain. So I don't know the. From my perspective, it wasn't fun, but I can't say he was unhappy. So, what else do you have I? Don't want to save it for another podcast. I want to I want to talk about the the ways in which you found him. And Unusual I went to trump towers and met with him at the Penthouse in the nineties I. Donald Donald Apartment was across the hall I was told he had the most fabulous. Fifth Avenue from. Top fabulous view. He showed me a picture of his children that he had in a book there and I had a question of whether there was a drop of black blood in the children. And I said my go cut a move and he would. And cut a move. That Michael Play something on the baby grand and he would just go to baby man and. The, he was at once a music code. G Savant. Survive and you can understand that moment his genius. Very few people get access to that right. Very few people never mind he. It was just he and I, and the apart I saw another person there, and it's a ridiculous apartment. The apartment. His whole life was absurd in like you saw the spending spree that. That channel ABC. Televised of him spending like three million dollars in a column minutes in Las Vegas it was his house, and Neverland was the God es over sized statues. Fountain caricatures. All kinds of shit in there and it was ridiculous all of that I'm sure very very expensive. You know, but like in video I buy that and that and that and that that and that and that is good. It was oversized gold. Plated Shit, it was. So, you're so you're. Did you go on any of those? Where you around for any of those spending sprees? Because I did want to ask and this is an indelicate question, but when you say OJ Simpson had nine lawyers, it does make me wonder what those billable hours looked like like. I don't I. Don't know if it's been reported. What his defense cost, but it had to have been. A large fortune. J Simpson is still alive. And he takes the position that the attorney client privilege remains until his last breath, and I step that okay very good, so I'm asking you not an indelicate question, an illegal one. Let me let me tell you this. The. Your listeners cannot understand how liberating it was that as a defense lawyer, you had virtually the unlimited ability to do anything needed to to defend your client and the the the lesson of the OJ Simpson trial. I say is how underfunded public defender agencies are all around the world, so that the defense cannot contest the awesome power of the state man we add some of. Of the best experts I had ever seen in my life I have been a lawyer twenty years then we would have four five investigators. Are Beck and call? That was tremendously liberating, but we were able to do that and we need to do that to contest the power of the DA's office. They had more lawyers. They had more investigators. They had more testing done. But you had unlimited resources no like. No no clear there was a budget. OJ Hat a business lawyer. Johnnie Cochran firm was underpaid. Some would say. He got a great deal for the money he spent on. Certainly, there were collateral benefits of the representation that you balance. Okay interesting, actually that's interesting, because you guys knew that handling that case and winning that case is something that sets a set sets everybody up for life for life. Okay. Yes. So of course, you can give OJ Simpson a bit of a discount. If that's the reward, because it's a trial of the century and yeah you, you give a little off the top so that you get it on the macro on the back end, but would you don't? We didn't appreciate what we I worked. At one trial for eighteen months of my life and I was primarily a civil lawyer, and during the eighteen months we would not bringing in civil cases at the same pace, so our firm suffer dramatically after o J. I had not trying a criminal case for ten years for Jason Okay I was a civil war making money. What kind of arguments would you and Johnny get into regarding these cases that we're talking about like how? How harmonious is all of that? And how contentious is it? You got one. I was always one to say my peace. And Johnny always gave me the flexibility to save my peace, and he respected my opinion case in point. Reginald Denny during the riots. The trucker who had a brick thrown on his ed K. Johnny got a call from Reginald Denny. and Johnny began representing Denny. I thought he shouldn't. Because I didn't. WanNa, suit. Thought. That wouldn't look good. And so. God? And we had a big argument about the wisdom and the Maryland, the whole permit the merits. We were an iconic rights firm, but what we decided that we're not gonNA do the brothers we sued the city of Los Angeles were failing to come to his aid. That was how we were able to use the law Ben Officially, but there was great internal strife and struggle about whether to accept that case for example. How black was the law firm? I was there twelve years we had one why lawyer for about a year and a half a former police officer. We thought that was unique. We had an interracial staff support staff. We had Asian secretaries although we were primarily primarily african-american. How unusual was that at the time? In Los Angeles and they as a plaintiff firm, I would say in Los Angeles today. There are fewer than twenty five black lawyers who make half of their money as a plaintiff, personal injury lawyer, and that's an a city of nine million most African American lawyers worked for the government's or they do defense work, because they are the criminal lawyers, because there is greater predictability in that I have to win in order to keep my doors open, so that helps that impacts. What cases I? Take how my pipeline is going. I gotTa try the case to get him to celebrate. That's why this check del for me so badly as a plaintiff lawyer, because the one thing you need is a firm trial date to get insurance companies to pay money in California. There won't be the trial for nine months three months after that. Really impacts what we can do as lawyers. What would look like second place in terms of the history of America, a law firm with this kind of black power. Law Firm where a black lawyer is empowering black people to defend black people like does this represent the strongest law firm America's no in this realm, and what to second place look like if it does. That's an interesting question. I've never been asked that question. I don't think of myself as a black lawyer who has a black firm, I am a lawyer who happens to be black who has a firm who represents people that look like me? So I have white clients. I Have Asian clients. I relish and welcome the chance to have more white plans because they get paid more money again but Carl hold on your a civil rights. Civil Rights affirm like I'm trying to figure out what else in America looked like it at the time or since. In California in Los Angeles County. There are less than. Five. African American Civil Rights plaintiff less than three aggregate american-based civil rights for my firm. The Cochran firm is still alive in Los Angeles and there and there may be. One or two smaller firms with two or three lawyers. You gotTA understand. Los Angeles. The city is only five or six percent black. So. It's hard to sustain too much into a big market for strictly black law firms. That's just the reality of our numbers. There probably are larger numbers in Washington. D. C. I'm sure I know. There are large numbers in Atlanta in new. York City I am sure and Chicago. I am sure as well in Detroit. I know that buddies they're. They're the reason that I'm asking the question as because I think, and it's odd for me to be trumpeting your horn. I think you're actually being falsely modest here because I believe that the place that you worked was a civil rights powerhouse fueled by unusual black power because you had. Had, an uncommon identifying point with much of your clientele was that the white lawyer couldn't possibly understand and it ended up costing itself in the Oj Simpson trial where you saw the white lawyer pushed out of the way because OJ Simpson realized. Oh, no I need to get with these black guys. They understand the history of Los Angeles. They're going to be able to actually tell the story in a way that the guy from Brentwood couldn't possibly tell correct and rarely have been accused of false modesty. But but it is. It's a pioneer in law firm like that's the reason that Johnny Cochran was an icon to you. I'm talking to you right now. I see. Jimmy Hendrix in the background. Like you are your of time, you are of a time in a totally different America you were living in a time where that was the epicenter of some really interesting, societal legal and civil rights stuff. Johnny Cochrane in a Purple Jacket is sitting here. Saying this is my constituency. Watch what I can do with a bunch of black lawyers with Swaggie Smart Watch what I can do showing the rest of America the injustices in Los Angeles and. That's why I like your show, and I like doing stuff for us because you can connect and relate to that, even in a sports context men unlike few of your contemporaries. That's a good thing for you. Well thank you for saying that but I I still don't understand why you're not willing to say hey, our law firm was a bad ass. Pioneering Law Firm like why am I the one saying at four? You wired you the one saying. We were bad ass high near lawfirm because we were not afraid to lose, okay, and Johnny had such success before I even joined their man. I just wrote away man my point. Is that Michael Jackson and Oj? Simpson didn't end up there by accident sure. I mean that that's how that that that's how that ends up happening because they realize where it is that people understand even. The criminally misunderstood because I don't know whether you saw that. Hbo Documentary or not, but to me from my vantage point on the Michael Jackson stuff. I thought that it became obvious in that documentary that he is guilty of pedophilia like I am I, being an idiot there. Because I thought, the documentary was very persuasive. It's interesting because win. I represented Michael during the first time he was charged. Those two guys were exhibits one and two supporting Michael Wait Rosen. They weren't they were the poster boys. Supporting that nothing ever went on. A and they sounded very believable to me, but it's so ironic man because they were the poster boys you know. Every time so you watch the documentary. And what do you think to yourself because I'm finding? They're saying the exact opposite now and I'm finding them saying the opposite to be persuasive. Listened to their version, I don't have I'm a dish. CARE is I didn't see bill I saw recently last six months or so, and their story sounded believable to me. Let me say that okay. That's because you can get to it right as someone who was representing the the other side. Yeah, but but at the time do you have any remorse or guilt about the idea? And this is something that is deeply deeply embedded in the law. Though no, I'm just wondering. If at any point, there is some crime that comes across your desk where you say this is something that I can't defend. It's not defensible. Oh! Atl- I have been a lawyer for forty years I. Don't do child molestation cases ironically I. Don't handle rate cases I don't like them. I don't handle cases of somebody being up an old lady on all black lady I, recognize an acknowledged their rights to have earned strong competent counsel I choose not to be that council. Okay so certainly. A murder case and problem me drug case. that the irony is land. The grocer takes the drug man's money. The realtor takes the drug man's money. You know the Carmen takes the drug man's money. Give me a break. Okay, so when you say though that you wouldn't you don't take. A? Child Abuse Cases that Michael Jackson one is one of the most famous of all time. I wasn't employees in an office. He said he didn't do it. Silent Me Okay. And it was Michael Jackson. Well, but know that what you're saying there seems to. Keep going because. I'm a trial lawyer. I want to be on the line with the ball in my hand and the Corcoran down. Okay. It is the makeup that. Eighty percent of lawyers are not trial lawyers. There's a certain make up for those of us than are I. AM Super Hyper, competitive I'm a modern day gunslinger. When I realized I wasn't on the basic three had to go. Works. So I look at ESPN CNN and the food network. Because I'm a cooking competition. Their heels so the chance to work on Michael Jackson's case. I don't care if it were filmed and it happened and a church letting out for for Bar Mitzvah. So. If Michael Jackson had beaten up an old woman, and all of the other awful stuff you might have to, because you're a trial lawyer. First and foremost, you gotta go. Is, they. West. We'll come. Did you without question man come on. Did you hit yourself in the side of the head? Okay, let's end on that note Carl. Good talking to you. It's always good talking to you. It's always entertaining. Thank you for being with us. That was funny and it was interesting. Then my pleasure out again, please. Thanks to Carl Douglas for his time and his work. Thank you for listening again. We ask you to rate subscribe and review. 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"Young charlie by hollywood and crime contains depictions of violence and is not suitable for everyone. Please be advised kim. Roman polanski wandered through the house touching things that should have seen familiar but now appeared as apparition features of a waking dream that wouldn't end end sunday august seventeenth nine thousand nine hundred sixty nine was the first time he'd been to the house on ceelo drives since the murders eight days earlier for a long time. He looked down at the bed. He shared with his pregnant wife. The pills were still bunched at the center. Something sharon did when he was away hugging him and spirited here it is she drifted off to sleep in the living room. A large red stains showed where she died lying on her side with nothing to comfort her. The filmmaker filmmaker could imagine the blade driving into her body again and again until there was nothing left of her in the sun inside her but ravaged flesh why he muttered as he walked around the house slowly. Why why why following the director were a writer writer and photographer from life magazine there to document his return along with them was peter her cosa self-styled psychic hired by friends of j. c. Bring on the belief that his readings might aid the police in their search for the killers he would later inform the press that three men were responsible for the carnage orange. They were friends of sharon had ingested massive doses of l._s._d. Which had turned them into frenzied homicidal maniacs. The murders took place during a black magic ceremony known as guna guna though police knew better than to take her coasts gibberish seriously the press showed little restraint they described details derived entirely from rumor in fevered speculation that the house was the site of frequent orgies and drug parties hardy's that sharon dabbled in the dark arts that polanski was somehow involved in the killings is open. Now the police have released and you can see you can go and see the orange place you have blood all over the place maybe close and until outraged at the macabre fantasies foisted on the public by an out of controlled media the director called a press conference on august nineteenth to deny the lurid allegations some present fell polanski's grief-stricken words were undermined undermined by the exclusive he just given life magazine complete with photo spread of the death house from wonder. I'm tracy patent was stephen lang today. Hollywood and crime presents young charlie. If you're joining us for the first time we recommend you go back and listen to the previous episode. We'll be waiting for you. Today's episode crazy charlie. Here's my co host. Stephen lang in february nineteen fifty three a sixteen year olds drive down a road outside beaver utah when one of them points through the windshield at something of ahead by the time. They realize it's a roadblock. It's too late hanging quick u-turn. We'll have the cops on their tail in no time. The only thing to do is pull over and hope for the best and for a moment moment seems luck is on their side turns out. The cops are looking for an adult robbery suspect not three teenage reformatory runaways but wouldn't you know it. They run a check on the plates anyway charlie side and gives that little smile of his. He knows what they're going to fine time. Since breaking out of the school for boys were widely sent me an orange rust hot wiring cars has been their preferred mode of getting around burglarizing gas stations provided the cash for what they hoped would be a trip to california at least until now looks like beaver utah is about as far as they're going to begin sitting in that car on the cold february day waiting for the cops to find what they're going to find charlie closes his eyes and relaxes into his fate during his three years in plainfield. He's learned a lifetime's worth of surviving from in the beginning. He knew he wasn't going to make it on his size or strength but he had a feel for how to play people. Do what you can for those who can help nope you do what you want to those who can't and when his way with words wasn't enough to protect him from the bigger tougher kids he'd starts screaming ming and flapping his arms and bugging his eyes crazed wounded animal most of the time it worked and the aggressor would back off when it didn't well it was just in the way of things that the week submit to the straw and if it came to rape as an often didn't places like that well you let it happened and you got yourself up and that was the end of it something that's done to you. Isn't you shake it off and move on uh when the police bring the three boys in it's not long before they learn. They're not going back to plainfield charlie's just fine with that but when they're sent back to indiana it's face charges of violating the dire act taking stolen car across state lines is a federal crime and federal time it is hard time charlie sent to the national training school for boys in washington d._c. And he won't be getting out until he turns twenty one on sunday august seventeenth the los angeles was times published an in depth article on the tate killings under the headline anatomy of a mass murderer in hollywood though little was yet known beyond the facts of who had died in how or perhaps because the lack of information only fuel the public's interest americans consumed everything they could about the grisly crime nine garnering far less interest but equally inexplicable or the murders of leno and rosemary labianca who story appeared on the same page titled old l. a. couple victims of slayer given final writes the article noted similarities with the yellow dr murders only the night before and that police lisa working on the assumption that the los feeless crime was the work of copycat killer. What readers that sunday might have easily missed was a third much smaller article that appeared beside the tate's story it details a crime of vastly different proportions police raid rant arrest twenty-six suspect aspects and auto theft bring the piece described how the twenty six were living in an abandoned western movie set on an isolated chatsworth ranch sheriff's deputies believing the group was converting stolen volkswagen's into dune buggies made the arrests in a daybreak raid saturday. A cache of weapons was also seized the owner of the ranch eight year old. George spahn was described as a nearly blind invalid who lived in a house on the property deputies said spawn new there. There were people living on his land but claimed no knowledge of their activities. He said he was afraid of them. No names of the suspects were mentioned when all twenty six were released days later due to a mistake warrant the times did not see fit to report it within three months of his incarceration in washington. D._c.'s training school for boys charlie's caseworker worker considers him an institutional politician barely literate with little or no math skills and an i._q. Only slightly above average. He shows no real interest in learning except for music. Charlie will sit still and listen in music class other than that. What charlie's good at is knowing how to tune his ways to an audience he might have few academic skills but he knows who he can dominate by force and who he needs is to charm and it isn't just the other boys. He's figuring out how to play psychiatrists. He's finding out light to put things in their own boxes a have ideas about how people get where they are. There is open just a little wider their heads tilt forward just a little closer when he talks about his mother and how no one cared a damn about poor charlie. They wanna hear what they already. Believe is what charlie figures and he's more than happy to give tim in summer nineteen fifty one one psychiatrist's report finds him an extremely sensitive boy who has not given given up on securing some kind of love and affection from the world another concludes that what charlie really needs something to build up his self confidence. He considers sending him to natural bridge honor camp in virginia. This gets charlie's attention. Natural bridge is a minimum security cured facility for the most promising youths what's more it would make early parole much more likely if promising can get him into a less restricted environment. Well charlie can be as promising as he needs to be by fall. Charlie gets his wish. His psychiatrist recommends the transfer and on october twenty fourth charlie has moved to the virginia honor camp at natural bridge early releases all but assured charlie's parole hearing is in february nineteen fifty two and all s to do till then play by the honor camps rules but sometimes nature is just nature and there's no getting around it there are those who dominate and those who get dominated and there's not much more to life than and that when he sees the boy alone and unguarded charlie acts in the moment without thinking about anything but what the kids got and what charlie what's coming up behind the boy charlie puts a razor blade to his throat and yanks down his pants. It's over in a minute and maybe it's time the kid had learned what charlie already knows. Rape is just a thing among things and no more than you make of it in your head. The school authorities feel differently. Elaine charlie's parole hearing is cancelled and he's immediately sent to the federal reformatory in petersburg virginia by the end of august teams investigating the tate and law bianca murders were on in two separate tracks the progress report on tate running thirty three pages made no reference to la bianca the sixteen page law bianca report said nothing of tate. The team was older. More experienced inclined to see the case however bizarre. It's elements as still a crime. Among crimes and murders were about sex or money since five individuals were involved including the entirely unrelated steven parent. It was hard to see how sex might have played a role. Yes it was possible. See bring and tate had reunited as lovers pointing to polanski as the perpetrator with the others eliminated as witnesses but he'd been in europe at the time and if he'd hired someone he certainly could have chosen an opportunity where needless bloodshed could have been avoided moreover polanski's dansk lie detector test indicated he'd been truthful so the likely motive was money since rumors of narcotics use at the estate abounded detective stayed with their theory that a drug deal was involved. Fry cousy was a known drug user and see bring was believed to have been having financial difficulties. Perhaps separately or in concert they had ripped off a local supplier and this was payback to serve as a lesson to others despite a lack of supporting the evidence the money revenge theory maintained its hold over the tate investigators. The law bianca team was younger more open to novel theories. They also were acquainted needed with what the report referred to as the singing group the beatles the band's recent album included the songs helter skelter piggies words which had been written in the victim's blood at the crime scene and blackbird had repeated references to arise which might relate to the rise scrawled by the front door. The connection was seen as more whimsical than substantive. It was quickly forgotten as detective search for more promising leads. Charlie doesn't last a year at the federal reformatory in petersburg virginia by august nineteen fifty two less than eight months into his incarceration. He's committed eight serious offenses at seventeen he might stand no more than five feet four but he does what it take to get what he wants with an ability to manipulate and willingness to use violence he's considered a danger to the other boys in december officials officials decide to transfer him to the maximum security facility in chillicothe e ohio even there he's considered too dangerous to be placed in the general population elation in a report written within a month of his arrival charlie has described as criminally sophisticated and grossly unsuited for an an open reformatory institution such as chilly kathy. Here's considered beyond rehabilitating. That's when everything changes his his chances for parole before his twenty first birthday all but gone charlie suddenly turns himself around he stops committing serious offenses and cooperates with officers. He takes part in the academic programs raising his reading and arithmetic skills. He's put to work repairing and maintaining vehicles in the the institutions transportation unit. No one might have predicted when he entered the facility less than two years earlier but on january first nineteen fifty four he received the meritorious service award from chile coffee on may eighth of that year having spent seven of his nineteen years in six different institutions. This charles manson is granted parole at ten ten years old. Stephen weiss had learned proper police procedure from watching dragnet on t._v. So when on september first he found a handgun half hidden under under a bush on the hilly grounds behind his home he knew how to avoid destroying any latent fingerprints gently picking the gun up by the barrel and bringing it into the house he he showed it to his father. Bernard weiss immediately phone the l._a._p._d. Within minutes officer michael watson had responded to the call apparently not aww fan of drag that officer watson took no precautions when handling the weapon he found to live around seven empty shell casings in the cylinder in the gun looked as if it had been there for a long time rusted and caked with dirt the barrel was loose and bent as if from striking something hard the right the hand grip was missing within hours the twenty two caliber high standard longhorn revolver and cartridges would be taken to the valley services division of l._a._p._d. A._p._d. And van is they would be placed in manila envelopes and filed away in the property section under found evidence and there they would remain sitting beside his grandmother and a pew at the nazarene church charlie. Let's ministers words flow around him and threw him in rhythmic waves. What god wants and doesn't want. Let's see what he doesn't want. Free yourself of pride and self women's servile men and menu lord. Give up your possessions enlighten your so the fifth angel sounded and a stall from heaven had fallen to the earth and the key of the bottomless pit was given to him sometimes when he closes closes his eyes. The syllables empty of meaning become cadence without content words are musical notes in a symphony of light and dark and he understands though it might not be the understanding is grandmother hopes to awaken him. There's the way of the fist and there is the way of the word and charlie. Charlie must learn to use them. Both it was a condition of his parole. That charlie returned to mcmechan west virginia to live with his uncle bill and an jemma the closest thing to a stable family he had but bill was not one to forget matters like charlie stealing his gun and and was less than convinced by his nephews meritorious service award might not be a bad thing for the boy to stay with his mother recently moved to nearby wheeling kathleen still had lewis and his drinking to deal with and it wasn't as if charlie got along with his stepfather any better than his uncle. She was happy to see her. Our son relieved he seemed to have turned himself around but she just wasn't in a position to offer him more than an occasional overnight. Stay it was then. Nancy stepped in still hoping to write her grandsons path. He can come stay with her most nights providing he attend church with our every sunday now feeling him beside her in the pew not wanting to glance over for fear of it being prideful. She knows it was the right decision. Not not only might have turned his heart back toward god. He'll have the chance to socialize with people his own age but but in a world of sock hops and bake sales and kids knowing each other since they were born. It's not easy for charlie fit in the kind of big talk that impressed crested fellow inmates at reformatory only makes the teenagers of mcmechan fearful of him. They might listen in their eyes. Get big when he talks about what he's stolen stolen or who is roughed up for how sneaking beers and cigarettes is nothing compared to shooting drugs but amongst themselves they decide. They want no part of him. I'm pretty soon they just pass by on the street without so much as a word or glance. Not that life on the outside is all bad. He's got himself a job aboard. Wheeling downs the local racetrack cleaning stables shoveling horse shit might not impress the sock hop of mcmechan. Charlie always liked animals he can look in a horse's is nowhere stands with people. You have to learn what works and what doesn't how to lead them this way or that he can do without that is stable boss telling them what to do when to do it. He's had enough of taking orders to last a lifetime but when it's just him and the horses that's okay check his mind gets clear and human voices grow distant fuzzy then one day he meets a man they call cowboy because of the stetson e wears and a certain way he has about him. He's a small time gambler named clarence willis and he's taken a liking to young charlie enough of all liking to introduce him to his daughter rosalie. The broken hand grip of the pistol found and at the cielo drive murder site was shown to sergeant william lee of l._a._p._d.'s firearms and explosives unit. Lee didn't need to check his manuals. He immediately immediately recognized it as belonging to a high standard twenty two caliber longhorn revolver ed lomax product manager for the company that produced the gun and hurried over to the police academy to confirm lease assessment adding that it was rather a unique revolver. Only twenty seven hundred have been produced since ends its introduction two years earlier. Lomax further accommodated police investigators beay providing a photo of the gun and a list of the stores that distributed l._a._p._d. Felt they were finally working on a significant lead they would create a flyer with a picture and description of the longhorn and send it out to police departments in gun shops throughout california and beyond some even reached remote locales and canada follow up letters were sent to any gun shop that had received achieved an order for a replacement hand grip for the weapon within weeks. The majority of guns sold in california had been eliminated and this area investigation had reached a standstill but just over the hill from los angeles. The high standard twenty two caliber longhorn discovered by young stephen weiss remained in its manila nilo envelope in a storage area. The van is division of l._a._p._d. They had never received one of the flyers nineteen. The only thing charlie knows about sex what he's learned in the dark halls and cold stalls of the reformatories where he's been incarcerated. It's about the strong and the weak like so much of life you do to others or they do to you on the outside. He watches the polite dance people his age do timid glances over milkshakes at the soda fountain hands grazing being hands at the movies as if by accident he doesn't believe it for a minute. He knows they aren't any different from him. These hulking youths with their sloppy grins wins courtship is raped by other means the boys play the big shots and the girls make like they don't notice everybody's out for something and pretending attending. They're not at least in reformatory. Everybody knew where he stood in the pecking order of want and submission their games charlie plays and game he doesn't and he isn't about to compete with farmboys for the chance at a snatch kiss of course there are the horrors over in wheeling and that's a whole world of its own. He watches them sometimes sitting in whatever car he can manage to hot wire the pimps worked like ministers of give-and-take intake telling them what they need but don't know touching their fears and then backing off finding that inner wound and pressing just hard enough before leading up these men and their slick suits and slicker ways no a hell of a lot more about how people operate than the psychiatrists he played at chillicothe. Ian plainfield charlie learns his lessons on the streets of wheeling find that spot of her and use it because she's thinking am i just this ugly thing and do people notice it. No you're not darling not by a mile. He will say i see the pretty inside you and maybe he's not much to look at. Maybe even a runt of a man but he can look inside them and not just what they need. He'll tell them they're pretty when no one else will that they're special special even if they don't know it yet that he's the one who can find what's best in them. Get a girl to believe that and she'll do anything for you. No one knows what charlie tells rosalie willis but before long the good people of meccan are turning their heads as the two of them walk down the street street hand in hand this nice local girl and the boy who bragged about shooting up. It's cowboy clarence willis who introduces charlie to the youngest gustavus three daughters and soon enough. They've set the date. Clucking around town supposes they have to but if there's a baby it's news to the couple in on january. Seventeenth nineteen fifty-five charlie is back in the nasreen church. Nancy watches. She's with pride is your grandson takes his young brides hand to start life anew it's more than she might have hoped for but god knows how to surprise even the worst center clarence clarence willis gives consent to his fifteen year old daughter even though she claims to be seventeen on the marriage license he liked charlie the minute. He laid eyes on him. Nancy holds the reception at her house but her daughter isn't there. Kathleen has left lewis again and moved to california. No one knows if charlie misses his mother right now. He's enjoying his wedding cakes planning his future. As a married man. Everyone has cameras and reporters. Search chief of police of the city of los angeles trees on september third. The los angeles times reported that after interviewing more than three hundred persons detectives are still without a prime suspect in tate murder case l._a._p._d.'s chief of detectives robert houten further admitted that the longer the investigation continues the harder. It may be you to solve the crime days earlier l. A.'s new police chief at davis held a press conference answering no comment most reporters questions. There were however a few tidbits of new information. It was revealed that the weapons the cutting weapon and a firearm had not been found that the killer or killers. I did not appear to have been wounded and that narcotics were found in more than one part of the estate detective out and said that personally he doubted one man could committed the crime at his press conference chief. Davis told reporters that his men were doing as good a job as can humanly be done. Unfortunately the murderer or or murderers did not leave calling cards. The times article made no mention of the lobby onto killings in the first time he picks up a guitar. Charlie can field a new world opening up to him. The smooth would of the neck the curves of its body like a woman shape most of all the electric tingled passing a newest fingertips from the strings every time he strums a vibration gratien connecting him to some universal force that goes past thinking and straight to the animal so this power there he can sense sitting in the little room room he and rowsley of rented the power to change him and the power to change the world. Wherever looks now young people seem to know something. Their parents don't don't music wakes you up and freeze you. He listens to frankie laine on the radio. In the words feel more real than talking answer me creams frankie thank you and it's like he's asking the sky and stars charlie teaches himself some chords and when he opens his mouth to imitate frankie his voice surprises him like it's not really coming from him but tapping into the same forces frankie's a force that connects everything to everything he has things to say he feels for the first time in his life and there are people who will listen music is different from earthly the comings and goings of men like the words of the nazarene minister becoming more than just words he remembers feeling even when he was sitting at andt glenis piano yeah no little legs dangling off the bench tiny fingers pressing on those keys in him closing his eyes and these sounds wafting up toward the heaven that grandmother nancy see believed was reading and he had no opinion about facing murder charges in the death of music teacher. Gary hinman bobby beausoleil received his trial date on september fourth bobby had been in jail for about a month since the fiat station wagon he'd been driving had had broken down outside san luis obispo to highway patrolman had pulled up and when they checked the license plates they discovered the car was registered to the tha panga enga canyon murder victim. A quick examination of the fiat turned up a bloody knife hidden in the wheel. Well bobby was arrested and the l._a. County sheriff's department was notified. Detectives hall whiteley and charles guenther working on the hinman investigation drove up to interview the prisoner bobbie told them he'd recently purchased the car from a black guy when the detectives informed him that his fingerprints matched a bloody thumbprint found at the scene of the crime crime. He changed his story. Now he claimed that hinman had signed over the car to two girls he knew whiteley and gunther had beau soleil brought back to the l. a. county jail and booked for the murder of gary hinman. His trial date was set for november twelfth. As bobby sat in jail detectives whiteley leeann gunther were looking for his pregnant girlfriend kitty loot singer. A possible witness to the crime but kitty was nowhere to be found. Los angeles is something you feel long before you see it like tentacles of some biblical michael beast it's roads and freeways reach into the desert the mountains all the way to the seat however might have imagined it back in tiny mcmechan l._a. <unk> overpowering in its speed and complexity rosalie sits in the passenger seat looking out with wide eyes. Charlie doesn't say a word from miles. Lets the motion shen of the cars of fury of color and light wash over him by the time they arrive at kathleen's modest apartment. Charlie knows that los dangelo says the home. He never knew. He missed till he got here. It isn't that he didn't give it a try and mcmechan. He kept his job at wheeling downs taking <music> artwork where he could find it. There was even this tug he could feel pulling toward a conventional life. He felt something prideful in the way he was looked at. Maybe even respected in that way that you're respected just for not standing out but by spring nineteen fifty five rosalie was pregnant and with doctor the bills adding to the burden of his small family charlie began supplementing his income by stealing cars just across the river and ohio. You do what you do for family family. When some rolled around charlie was more than ready for a change from mcmechan he piled rosalie into a stolen fifty three mercury and they headed in west to visit kathleen they were going to california. Kathleen is glad to see charlie and his pregnant bribed happy to let the young couples stay with her with louis not around to get between her and her son. Things are all right. Charlie seems alive in los angeles driving the streets taking it all dan there is little about l._a. That doesn't surprise startled. He tools around in that mercury and let's the city fill him like a meal. He can't get up from he understands now what people mean when they talk about destiny something beyond the here and now it's not so much that charlie doesn't think about the future it's more than it never occurred to him that he had one now. He feels the pull up the future l._a. Is the destiny he never new. He had a month after the death of his wife. Roman polanski and several of his friends decided it was time to play a more active role in the investigation on september tenth. They took out large ads in los angeles area newspapers offering a twenty five thousand dollar reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the killer or killers hollywood stalwarts including peter sellars lurs warren beatty and you'll brenner contributed to the effort with sellers making the announcement rather than the desire to fact the ad only created further problems for police lisa investigating the crimes within days tips were pouring in from around the city overwhelming detectives and potentially obscuring legitimate information that might have come. I'm in theories abounded from a mafia hit too bizarre drug fueled sex practices gone awry hollywood players and peripheral seemed seemed eager to turn on each other providing accusatory information on whomever they refuting with that week beyond the muddying effect of this deluge. The implication of the polanski ad was not lost on l._a._p._d. Investigators they were not doing their job. Oh it's not until september that charlie is once again reminded that destiny is something thing that controls you. If you don't control it is driving through pasadena when he's pulled over by an l. A. policemen who notices the out of state plates a quick check reveals the cars stolen charlie throws himself on the mercy of the court blaming his poor mental state on years of incarceration he even admits to stealing another car back in ohio and unloading it in florida another violation of the dire act but he's got a wife now with the kid on the way maybe he hasn't been the best citizen but how would prison help back the judge orders a psychiatric evaluation and dr edwin mcneill mcneill concludes that with the incentive of a wife and fatherhood. It's possible he might be able to straighten himself out. The judge sentences charleena the five years probation. He's still got the dire act charges to deal with and he's ordered to be back in court in february nineteen fifty six although it's unlikely unlikely to do more than a few years to his probation charlie and rosalie flee to indianapolis on march tense rosalie gives birth to charles manson junior a week later charlie's arrested and brought back to los angeles his probation is revoked and for the first first time he's sentenced doesn't adult charlie is given three years at the terminal island penitentiary at san pedro in the port of los angeles <music> some six weeks after the murders. Los angeles was a changed place. The universe of the hollywood establishment turned upside down. Frank sinatra was in hiding rosemary's baby star. Mia farrow was convinced that she would be next. Steve mcqueen drove around town with a gun under the seat of his car. Tony bennett left his beverly hills hotel bungalow for an apartment in the <unk> hotels safer interior jerry lewis home was equipped with a security system replete with video monitoring esquire would report that in the great houses of bel air terrorists ends people flying to their telephones when a branch falls from a tree outside. Yes weep deep famine that september nineteen l._a. County coroner thomas noguchi called a press conference that did little to assuage resident's fears. He was now convinced that two possibly three killers had been responsible for the slaughter at cielo drive elements of the crime suggested the severe psychopathy of at least one of the killers it was possible drugs had played a role there was little in his report that was unexpected or comforting and and little hint that the l._a._p._d. 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John & Ken Show Hour 1 (06/01)

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"Johnny show john kobylt and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. Welcome everybody to another edition of this A day after a san bernardino county sheriff's deputy was shot and killed after a high-speed chase. We have the breaking news from about three hours ago. Bit of firefighter shot at a fire station inaugural dulcie. This is northeast of santa clarita. If you're not familiar with the territory and covering the story for kfi news. Chris ancarlo so let's get him on to give us all we know now. There is a news conference in about an hour. Yeah guys into at that news conference. We expect to learn a lot more in terms of the exact time line. What we know is that the shots were fired at about ten fifty five that according to la county fire on twitter a little bit earlier But we don't know whether or not that was protracted or whether that was an acute we also don't force for sure no we haven't had it confirmed in terms of the number of people that were involved in the number of people that ended up shot right now working with the The idea of two people one person who has been confirmed to have been killed and another person who From what we understand was was shot and then flown down to the the male hospital in down in santa clarita Or newhall in so the other part of the stories that we've got a separate seen on an acting and that's part of the reason i think we haven't really heard a lot of information about this is because that's still a scene that they're trying to wrap up we've got a house fire you've got You know the sheriff special enforcement bureau down there. Their version of swab trying to secure the scene. Of course the firefighters not moving into a scene like that especially given what we saw up in san jose last week and so you have these two different scenes playing out in a couple of different ways. And i think From the county perspective and law enforcement and fire. They've been waiting for that other scene to start to settle down before they can get more information confirmed and then talk to the media about specifically what happened and then of course we talked to the public. And you're getting your information so far from where really it's it's been a combination of a few little Trickles coming out from l. a. County fire and from law enforcement And then of course. The the death was confirmed. Probably about nine minutes ten minutes ago. Supervisor hilda's lees tweeted out that Basically a grieving tweet for the family of the firefighter who was killed saying that flags would be flown at half staff so that that was the first official confirmation that we had that there was a fatality involved. Here other than that. It had been sources coming through the saying You know it looks like there's a fatality but not anything that officially came from a government source so to speak And so what we see right now just to kind of give you a lay of the land on sierra highway which is The road that really kind of gain runs the spine along the high desert up into the mountains. Back down the newhall pass and down below where we are about a quarter mile to a third of a mile from where. Chp is blocked off. The road is where fire station eighty-one sits it's a kind of a little culvert and throughout the last hour and a half two hours seen a number of sheriff's department vehicles l. a. county fire vehicles. Kind of moving in and out. There was at one point it was. It was a moment of interest for me. But i i don't know if there's much to read into it but yet a ambulance fire engine and a smaller fire truck. Kind of move out in convoy with their lights on but no sirens than that we haven't much action here and again i think. Part of that is because the investigators around seeing wrapping up. You know anything they can pull together here while also taking care of the fact that if there is a fatality that You have a body here. Which would partially explain why we are so far away. On both sides of this specific scene is the home still burning and or are they doing something about that. I am not on that scene. I've been trying to follow it from where i'm at right now from what i understand. The bomb squad has has shown up there as well The flames from what i understand. had been tapering off for a while and it was just a wisp of smoke but honestly i mean you guys probably have a view of a of a helicopter. That's looking down. There may be able to to show you a little bit more than what i've been able to glean from friends that are down there. In from twitter. channel seven has reports. A man's body was seen in a pool at the home. But nobody knows if that's suspect. Yeah it's something that i can't confirm with a With a ten foot pole. Just because stationed steve. Still there i know he was doing reports from the fire scene You know i again. Respond to everything down a bit more. All right we'll talk to you later. Yup sounds good. Hi kristin carlo. Kfi news yeah. I mean if you stitch together reports from various sources some are already describing this as a disgruntled firefighter. Who went into this fire. Station in agra dulcie an open fire killing one and injuring another. That may not pan out in the hours to come. it hits the reports. Were getting trust. No information for about a year in fact used to have a three day rule. Now you did why. It's a year after the after this chinese story. It's now a year. Yeah well some of the tabloids dive right in. I'm reading the daily mail. This man then drove ten miles to his home for. He barricaded himself inside. Set the property on fire shot himself and his body's been found floating in a described as a water feature on the burning pro water feature water feature channel seven called it a lap pool channel seven. I was watching them too. They interviewed a man. They're acting who thinks that he knows who the person is that lived in the house. It might be the shooter. But he would only say that because he goes well the properties out here are far apart. I kept one hundred percents which ones burden there but if it is the home i think it is. I have little run in with that guy not only said he did a homeless registered to a forty five year. Old california man. It's unclear whether or not though that is the person that lives there owns the property or it could be the person who owns it as renting it out to someone else right right because but it does say. The owner is a veteran firefighter. Police have not confirmed that. And we don't know if he's grunfeld older disgruntled and this theme of disgruntled employees returning to a workplace to take vengeance continues. We saw last week in san jose. It seems like every single day. This is the story and didn't want the shooter's recently. I was at the san jose shooter. He also put his house on fire. I think he did right the guy last week. The shooter did set his home on fire. I think so. They're all the new thing that they're doing and i then he killed himself. I know that. I can't even separate all these shootings in my memory anymore. I really don't. I know just so many of them there too. Similar rates like Pissed off a bunch of grinches goes in his his co workers and your maybe kills himself. Maybe sets fire to his house. It's just over and over and over again you've become desensitized to i have become desensitized. That's terrible didn't you read the story that ghana gun purchasing boomed last your big time in that country. Yeah drove people. Oh yeah and then. Probably the defeat of trump among those supporters know. There's a whole nations had a nervous breakdown. Tender for ways and start ending. The country needs like that slap in the face. Snap out of it s mac. There's a lot of jobs available. Go get one go back. To work stopped. I mean drives is a horrible story for the firefighter and his family. We don't have any idea. We may find out a little more next hour. Although i kind of doubt that since the story is only three hours old. But that's what we know from official sources. Which would be chris. Ancarlo and the john and ken unofficial source. It looks like they're still trying to put out the fire if channel. Five a live picture. And there's the the buildings pretty burnt out. There is a fire in the middle of it. There's smoke coming up. And i just saw the helicopter doing a dump. They work there waiting for air support because nobody was to go in there because it might be booby traps. So you don't wanna take care of this from the air. That's burning for a while and see if they're gonna show the pool in the backyard there if somebody said voters said there's a body covered up in the yard or in the pool. I guess that's probably the shooter. All right We'll have more obviously as the show progresses and then we'll cover this news conference after three o'clock more coming up. John and ken show. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou kfi am six. Forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. will be returning to the horrible world of the homeless after two thirty. What a story in the also go two times over the weekend. That one of the homeless guys that was camped out at echo park lake and then that whole thing got cleared out to be cleaned up a couple of months ago. It just reopened. Last week. Decided he was going to try a new encampment in griffith park believing that he had the backing of the local council person for that area. And that's our friend again nick rahman anyway. We'll talk about the story because it's unbelievable and again he can go to any park and set up villages people to shoot up drugs and defecate and start fires. That's what this guy thinks he. He was put on earth to do and this nitya rahman is backing backing them up. What i swear. I got go to griffith park now. If rahman has her way the thing will be burned down in gone by the end of summer. When the way i read that story that nifty rahman is trying to have it both ways. That's what's really dangerous about her because they're trying to make it look like support the homeless. But i don't wanna go that far. But i don't wanna she wants all the filth but she skipped screen day all day long exact so she's got her you know. Her belief system is that people ought to do drugs and defecate and street and the parks. That's your belief system because she's one of those Democratic socialists right. So she's about undermining our civilized way of life however everybody in the world is screaming her now and she can't take we'll run through the story coming up after the news to thirty and again for those of you just tuning in. We're expecting around three o'clock a news conference to update us on what has happened earlier today. Just before eleven. Am somebody walked into a fire station inaugural saying opened fire and so far from what we understand. One firefighter dead another wounded. We don't know that person's condition and then although reports not confirmed the shooter went back to a place in acton and probably took his own life while burning down the home there in acton so all of well maybe some questions will be answered coming up after three o'clock. The other thing that happened just yesterday in san bernardino county was the shooting. Death of an a. county. Deputy he was actually a sergeant by the name of dominant vodka. Forty three when you look at this story by the way i can remember it and it wasn't too many years ago when something like this happened. It was big really sad news but it kind of got buried this morning because there's so much focus now all the woke stuff. yeah now. it's hard to even filter through the news anymore with rich radio or tv. Actually i turned on a radio. Newscasts over the weekend was all woke news. Honest to god. That's the way. I felt this morning to a couple newscast. It's like all woke all the time. And then there's all this crazy stuff going on especially in the city and the state and there's nothing not not a whiff of it just this thing this group this injustice this activist spokesman blah blah blah blah. And then the stuff. That's affecting real people suddenly i. Nothing's happening anymore. Right and you know what struck me about. Fifteen years ago on this show. We recovering attempts to rein in public employee pension. Remember that that drive. You have done it a lot but we run deep into it because they were ballot measures that we're going to do something about it. And one of the reasons that the ballot measures lost is because they were commercials that were running about the widows of police officers and how this could affect them and apparently was very effective. And i remember thinking at the time. Yeah maybe we're being too harsh. There are times when these guys can be killed. But you and i are acting like for most police officers. That doesn't happen. Some never even fired their all their years job and so i heard the story this morning. I'm like but this is. This guy did die and all he was doing was doing a traffic stop. He sees a motorcycle without a plate. So he decides to put over the motorcyclists drives off. This is in yucca valley. He ends up ditching his bike in the desert and running off. So the cops thinking you've seen this a million times on tv right when a guy runs a neighborhood to chase him down and cuff them right instead. He position himself for an ambush and he opened fire. And he killed this officer. dominic vodka. I mean that poor guy goes to work yesterday. Probably not expecting some evil person like this to be out there and all because he didn't have plates clearly probably go and by the way they killed him he got involved in the shootout. They killed the shooter. I don't have his name yet. I don't have as criminal record. It's probably a good bet that this guy had a reason for not wanting to pull over because he had no license plate on the motorcycle you might have thought that they were after him for something more series. And where does that lead us. Oh yeah when you release all these bad guys into society. They're going to be out there on the streets and they're going to be a danger wherever they are. I just saw a story in orange county. Where a guy killed an older man and this was another one who just got released recently and another assault case salt with a weapon case he was on the streets and and then he killed an old guy just the other day down in orange county. Well they've let us what. I'm reminded every time it is these guys they've been they've led out thousands of feldman's many of them fallon's who have guns they have guns whether they have a legal right to them or not and wonder Because you see in chases what they'll do is they'll hang back behind the guy even if they have to chase them for three or four hours and then there's a whole collection of cop cars and they strategically surround wherever the guy decides to stop or if he stops and runs into a building Because you always have to assume you got a crazy guy with a gun. And so when when when i saw case like this i'm thinking well now what what's the normal protocol here. Do you chase guy in a desert all by yourself because you don't know if he has a gun and then and then he could win. He could shoot you so i went. Sounds like he was accompanied. Says the deputies approach the motorcycle not realizing they were walking into an ambush right. So i don't think he was alone when they were approaching. But i imagine it took caution but you're right but wins the kind of nut balls. That are out there at wendy. You take the precaution that he he might have a gun and not go rushing in their. What i i don't understand because sometimes it seems to hang back and sometimes they they run up like this and i always thought i mean i think you should always assume one of these guys gun and is willing to shoot. Yeah that's what they normally do. The next i get out of the car and then lie flat on the ground with his arms wide and stuff so before they get any closer like last week with that guy who shot the little boy in the car right. You have to assume every crazy person has a gun now because there's hundreds of millions of guns out there and they've let out thousands and thousands of felons violent felons. So you see somebody doing something screwy. Odds are pretty high that this guy. This guy is armed and is willing to use it. I don't know. I don't know what the what the protocols are on that stuff i. It's a story. That's titled evicted from echo park. He wanted to bring a homeless camp griffith park. Things got messy. Where do you hear about this guy next. John and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou john and ken chiampou. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app right again. Coming up at around three o'clock we're expecting a news conference from an la county fire department With some more detail about what unfolded about three and a half hours ago and agua dulce. That's northeast of santa clarita. Someone went into a fire station there and opened fire killing one firefighter and wounding another then. Apparently driving off to a home in and that was set on fire and it is believed that that person probably own life and is dead on the property. The house was burning. What they're working on putting it out. We'll see what else we find out at three o'clock. If that comes off as expected at that time here the john and ken show right back to the world of the vagrants and john and i both notice the story over the weekend in the el segundo times special by david. Zanna sir zonta assir. One of their staff writers evicted from echo park. He wanted to bring a homeless camp to griffith park. Things got messy this. we covered. What happened in echo park link intensely a few months ago they finally decided after more than two hundred tents and a lot of waste material to close it down for a cleanup day through everybody out. I can't emphasize enough that that these disgusting people created thirty five tons of trash and about seven hundred pounds of human waste that had yet to decay thirty five tons of trash seventy thousand pounds of trash that they're ends the debate that nobody wants to hear anything else that is so disgusting and so gross and they had. What was it like thirty forty pounds. A needles yes. So don't you just hit the road get out of here. I don't wanna hear anything coming out of your yap about this. All this stuff passed close and be cleaned out and throw these guys in jail after one of the last holdouts at echo park lake is a guy by the name of raymond ahmed he and a few others decided to go over griffith park and set up a new camp griffith park which was the scene of a horrible fire back in two thousand and seven. It's a high fire danger. It also happens to be in the council district of a woman by the name of nitya. Rahman now i'm is acting like he got permission. Or he was told by representatives in romans office that yeah go and camp there of course. They're denying that but park rangers. Said you can't stay here and eventually arrested a group of these homeless people and went further by saying that apparently robbins office seem to interfere with their efforts to get these homeless people at a very high fire. Danger zone in griffith park. Of course she did because these people like baden rahman they don't care if people's homes burned they don't care if entire neighborhoods burn l. For all the animals burned to death at the griffith park zoo. They don't care. They're on a higher mission with god to give these homeless people their right to defecate in the street that seems to be their north northstar right now by gavin newsom marshall mcclain's president of the los angeles airport peace officers association. That's the union that represents the park rangers. And he said one of nifty rahman's. Aides interfered with the work of park rangers to clear out that encampment. One of the people. There's two of them worth quoting here. Besides amid caleb crowder is an activist who was also arrested that night. He tried to tell the rangers. The cdc says you should leave encampments and place during covid. Nineteen housing options are not available. Thanks dr fauci. This brings us to something. Called ground game los angeles and the quote of the article which comes from somebody named bill. Pris- lucky ground games executive director i. He says homeless people should not be arrested for simply setting up tents and parks and many ads. If an outreach worker has offered a shelter better a hotel room the homeless should have the right to say no and stay where they are see. That's what we're dealing with. The offer is being shelter not a voucher but housing then unequivocally yes they should be allowed to stay in the park said. Should i think that's a polish name. Joe lucky because you could try it. It's pr z. Y. yeah that's a jew. Sound shoe you. Yeah so jill. Lucky people here. I think for all right but the thing is he smokes out their real agenda here. If there isn't a house for all seventy thousand homeless in the county that means seventy thousand homes that not shelter right not a bad not attempt right now in a parking lot not even what bond offering claw they could because permanent supportive housing even some of the most restrictive court decisions had just said. Hey it's a bed which means it could be a better to shelter. This is where we are now over his fight but the thing the thing is this is a complete wack job and he's part of this extended group that wants to ruin our way of life because the next thing is there at the same time. This crowd is working on. Rezoning your neighborhood so they have to build apartment buildings right right. Your neighbor sells out. Developer comes in puts up an apartment building. Well what's next after that. Oh affordable housing for the homeless in that apartment building. And now you've got thirty guys defecating on your front lawn and they're your neighbors across the street and this. This is really where they're headed. I'm just watching. These would seemingly unrelated stories or not unrelated. they're all part of the same movement ear which is to destroy suburban life. It's immoral to them. We had this same fight. The one you just described them with rehab homes in people's neighborhoods. Remember that years ago. Yeah with the drug addicts and there was all these companies were enticing drug addicts from all around the country to come to the beaches of orange county and live in a nice home in a nice neighborhood and we'll take care of you instead. They ripped off. Most insurance money ran out. They dumped him in the street story a lot yet. Most of them are criminal operations. Now i guess the homeless don't even go to those anymore. They just go straight venice beach bright or they go to echo park lake or because look you've got bonded and rahman the practically advertising around the world coming here. We won't bother you. And then you have these whack-job advocates who i'd love to see the funding for this for this group Ground game. how are they getting their money. And what are the salaries of the people involved like this guys. You lookie. how much is he making. And he can stand there. All arrogant pompous sag. Well event is in housing. Then they should be allowed to stay in the part both sheltered voucher. it's gotta be housing. How much how does your lucky. What's a salary as you making this way. I want to know because i wonder is part. The whole complex the indus- only hoped faked on profits are getting millions of dollars in grants. And this guy's getting six figure salary. I don't know but i want though there's one more person to talk about in this story. This is a good one. Tampa the yellows tampa yellow says a field manager for elliot city. Councilwoman nitya ramat. Jesse zwick a spokes hole for rahman said no one. The council office suggested it would be okay for homeless people to sleep in griffith park but he did confirm that this tampa yellows asked rangers not to make arrests well. The head of the park rangers union. I mentioned before. Marshall mclean said. He believed rahman staffers blurred the lines between their duties and the activism of this group called ground game which by the way supports the abolition of lapd statelessness filing show. That yellow suit served last year as chief executive of ground game. How about that and now. She's a staffer. Diptheria robbins office. You see the connection. eli see. The activists have now infiltrated the city. Council she co hosted and field director she also co hosted an episode of the ground game video production called night discussing discussing police brutality. The defunding the police movement and the international use of the acronym. Aca all cops bastards. don't they know acronyms racists. We learned a few months six same. I know he can. And then yellows said the police suck here and they suck in latin america so she is some of the times makes the distinction. She wasn't employed by the city at the time. She made that comment. So get up all right because she doesn't have those thoughts now actually. She's cleaning she's having slate she's not trying to implement that policy is she now. The thing is because griffith park is covered by the park rangers. They don't have to answer to nitya rahman nitya rahman and bonded push around. Lapd because lapd has a terrible leader. This michael moore. He's really weak. And he lets the council people push the cops around so in bonn and rahman call the local precincts. Hey don't arrest the people in in the park. Police listen right but the park rangers. that's a separate organization. Give a fig what nitya rahman asked to say. They're not going to let the park burned-out and that's what mclean says if you have somebody with that mentality working in a position in la city council members office. What do you think that's gonna mean who sired that person going to take and that is. The plan plan is together infiltrate infiltrate on the inside. They have infiltrated neighborhood councils. They have infiltrated the city council. Now they've infiltrated the staffs at city hall. That's why they allow this to go on and that's why they don't respond to your complaints. This is by design. This isn't an accident. this isn't just apathy this is activism. it's in disguise. But i'm sure yellows is not the only person with one of these radical anarchy groups to get inside government. Yeah yeah she's now right inside there. She's got this year not that that woman was already out there on the homeless. But if you're revenue found out with the los feeless gang encampment right. She's a social democrat. She's not a regular democrat. she's a social democrat. So she's way out on the french and these people are about abolishing prisons abolishing the police letting the homeless run free ruining suburban neighborhoods. They say it on their websites. Go look it up. And some of them are funded by our tax money. Where do you think are prop h h h h. Money is going to these. Fake nonprofit groups were making big salaries and then they leave. They leave the organization and they go work inside at city hall. We got more coming up. John and ken. Kfi john and ken show john kobylt and ken. Chiampou kfi am six forty. Why everywhere on the iheartradio app expecting a news conference to start around. Three o'clock annoys happen on time. We'll see this concerns to the apparent shooting. Death of an la county firefighter. In a fire station and agra adults northeast of santa clarita and reports that the shooter then drove off to a home in acton. Set it on fire and killed himself. That's the best information we have now. It was also fire. Fire wounded in that shooting at the firehouse. Some reports are that it was a disgruntled firefighter either. Current or past. We don't know we'll see what happens. Stay tuned to kfi. For all the latest. Chris ancarlo end steve gregory story. And you'll get more details as soon as we get them. This story in n. P. r. standing for national public radio dealing with the cost of homeless housing in la. What we're talking about as tense in a parking lot. This is kind of bonds idea. The main theme of the story is two thousand. Six hundred dollars per per month too high and most people in this story said you could probably find that apartment for that money. You're putting these people in a tent. Which brings us to a nonprofit to keep an eye on. We've been talking a lot on the show about the homeless industrial complex. I don't know a lot about urban alchemy. But that is the nonprofit. That's running this campsite. Which apparently is close to downtown los angeles and it's called the first city sanctioned camp ground it's beside the one on one freeway in east hollywood to give you an idea. Seventy tents twelve by twelve foot spots marked by white squares painted on the asphalt and the debate in this story is is are we spending too much for tents and a parking lot it might be able to find them something like a real apartment. Well two thousand six hundred sixty three dollars per tent per month that is higher than what a typical one bedroom apartment reds. Four in the city. Yes the response from alchemy as but that includes meals sanitation staffing right. Got all this overhead guys -partment. We wouldn't get. How much do we owe these people. Ellery thing why. Why do we owe them all of that. We owe them all these meals. And what are the services exactly. Is that the free drugs. No i thought it was Counseling mental health job. Counseling counts what percent ridge on taking the part of urban alchemy. Fast food restaurant. Over the weekend and i saw they had a basket with applications. There's plenty of jobs out there. Walk into the fast food. Burger joint picked up that application. Fill it out. They're going to hire you in five minutes whenever the story takes a twist right near the end after the debate whether or not it's too much money just for attempted a parking lot a job post guy who is running for mayor kind of defended and you know why he defends it. He says it's one of the ways that we can enforce the anti laws near you go. You got some place in the parking lot you get meals sanitation security and then one of the activists in the says ono. This can't be the place. I'll say you now going to criminalise. Who turned down the tent. You see how it changes you. Give him the tents are not good enough not good. It's an endless game because again. If you solve the problem who would lose yourself that who loses all the middlemen lose all the nonprofits who are taking tax money. They are not nonprofits. I'm never going to use that word anymore. they're profiting these people are making good salaries. And this also i take issue with this idea that Whereas sky courting and what pages that. Because there's there's the it's near the end. I don't have pages. I just have a whole. I'm looking out of seattle. Okay right near the. Yeah he said. La city council member. Joe bus guy ain't no says enforcement as part of the point because this this campground is accommodating seventy tents seventy tents we have seventy thousand people sleeping in the streets here in la county seventy thousand so this handles one one thousand of the problem. Where are you gonna find sixty nine thousand nine hundred and thirty other tents to lay out in the camp where we're gonna find where you gonna take over all the parking lots you can find. Yeah we're gonna find another thousand parking. Lots the lay in the tents well. I thought the pandemic empty lot of office buildings are going to take those over or actually. Today i saw the story. And maybe they're at all the abandoned shopping malls and shopping centers. Oh yeah we're trying to get somebody on about that story. At in city council members been Tracking the attempts to take local housing jurisdiction away from like local city councils so they can turn over shopping. Centers balls right to housing. Yeah so look at Oh my god. There's a nearly abandoned shopping center just around the block from me. Oh yeah just go. They used to be probably. You have homeless people to them to the vet center. They should half mile away. They can put like a bottom in there. There's there's really only a bank and report that no. That's what's going to happen though. I i just thought of this. It's like wait a second. We have one of these places used to be about twenty businesses. they're eighteen of the twenty year gone. I won't all nother story. I've heard we'll see what happens. We're expecting this news conference over the shooting at the fire station and agua dulcie which cost the life of la county firefighter in injured. At least one other will stand by for that. John and ken show debra mark has the news. Kfi am six forty.

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Mini Beaut 1 - Questions from the Hunnies

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Mini Beaut 1 - Questions from the Hunnies

"Strivings natural do a natch Butte <hes> honeys hello. How are you welcome to match view? Welcome to the first ever official many episode Nash Butte. Yes there have been other minis yes every once in a while throwing a little surprise if I have something to say but guess what what we are regimented now honey okay we are now going to be doing to abso. Wake right there on your main feed. We're going to have the main show on Thursday where I have a guest and we'd talk for an hour plus and now the minis and the minis are coming out on Mondays to start you off right every week and you don't know what we're going to have with the minis. Sometimes I'M GONNA guess so it'll be an interview. Sometimes <hes> maybe Edwin will come in and talk makeup. Maybe Lauren Adams and we're GONNA live call in shows through instagram live or like today. It's GonNa be me Yep in my gums solo and there's going to be all kinds of topics. We have lots of fun ideas <hes> my producer back and I came up with some funny stuff. We're going to do reviews news. We're GONNA go do some treatments and review. We're going to do all kinds of stuff so but today being the first one we're going to do a good old fashioned Q._N._A.. Because you know that's the lazy thing to do and Y'all provided me with such great content content plus. There really hasn't been a super interactive segment and Natch Byu in a long time where I do answer your questions directly so guess what that's what we're going to be doing and I I just WanNa say thank you for listening to Knatchbull. Thank you for supporting shooting match. Butte and things are going on this journey with me <hes> I also you know sometimes at the beginning of episodes I put like a little disclaimer or or a little thing at the top it's like hey I have this going on that going on etc.. Now those are going to be in the minis so if you want to know what's going on listen to the Minis Babe and so to start that off. I'm going to say if you're listening to this when it comes out that means today is July fifteenth on July Eighteenth. I'm going to be returning to the Howard Stern. Wrap up show so if you happen to be a Sirius X._M.. Subscriber you gotTa tune in here that <hes> the wrap up show. I believe it depends on where you are. What time it starts so you need to check your local listings but it runs on Howard one hundred and one so Channel One zero one on your Sirius X._M.? Dial and that is Thursday July eighteenth tune into hear me there you can also call in live and I would really flip out if an honey called it would make me look really good in front of Howard not to bring pressure. Is Your own y'all. It's live sweetie alive okay so if you feel the pressures of live radio and you WanNa call in they tell you the number. I believe it's like eight eight eight stern one hundred or something like that. Don't quote me. They say it on the wrap up show and you when they start the show call in and ask me a question made me look good. I would flip out. It would really be great but no pressure okay so that's all I have coming up. You'll know I'm on drunk history on August six on Tuesday August six on comedy central but that's a while away I will remind you you closer to okay. Let's get to the questions so yesterday. When I decided to ask Y'all some questions all I did was I went on the Nashville instagram which is at Nashville you? If you don't follow me go there because that's where all the info is going to be if I spontaneously pull something the thing like I did today and I went on there and I just said hey send me some questions. It doesn't have to be about beauty. It can be about natch butte the podcast about shoot you can be about life it could be about my butthole. Whatever and Yo- came through I mean I don't? I haven't counted them but there's a lot of questions here so we're GonNa get through as many as we can. The next many will be maybe a follow up with more plus. I'm going to go through my summer makeup bag and tell you everything. I'm using right now what I would repurchase what I wouldn't and that's an exciting segment that I'm excited aided about. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. Are you excited that I'm excited. Are you excited okay. Let's start with the first question. The first question is how natch do we need to be. Are we just being green washed. Where's the data now listen? I'm going to say you know what most likely yes we are and a lot of people because they hear the word natch Butte they think that I'm all about the natural which I love but I'm not if we're being honest I would sam about half and half and there's no rhyme or reason to that. It's essentially just products. I'm drawn to and products. I like and then the ethics of the company. It doesn't necessarily mean I only use products that are quote unquote natural or Green <hes>. I don't <hes> but I also am not. I don't know it's a weird balance some some chemicals. I'm scared of some. I'm not into that I say do you're damn base and do your own research and come up with what you want and what you believe in and forgive yourself. If you use a damn when wild lip gloss that happen sue nut being yet euro or whatever you know what I mean. We're all doing our best. There's chemicals around us in everything so just do your Goddamn best in by what you fucking want okay. That's the short to answer that <hes> so no you don't need to be a total natch butte being asked you where it works for your lifestyle and I hope that answered that question okay next question new Jackie got a fancy cut but favourite hair dye in products on a bud. Did you okay yes. I did get a fancy haircut. I'm just GonNa yes. I got fucking fancy haircut if you follow me on Instagram at Jackie Michelle Johnson Michelle with one L. Hinny yes okay. I just got a very very fancy cut. In color done at nine zero one salon here in L._A.. which it would be honestly easier for me to tell you who doesn't get their hair down there honey because everybody gets their hair down there and it was a lucky kind of happenstance that I was given the opportunity to got my hair down there? By the two founders of the place Nikki Enron they own it and the fucking founders cut my hair honey they like literally do every famous hot chicks hair in Hollywood and they did my hair okay new Jackie. You decided to treat herself and yes don't worry they're coming on soon so all hair questions they can cover and I'm not going to say here and act like a damn hair expert but I was taking notes the entire time and I have so many amazing questions to ask them him and I will definitely <hes> pull y'all for questions for them as well because they pretty much are on the pulse of what is happening in terms of the cool chic L. A. Cool girl hair movement was going on the colored trans the products the styling tools techniques everything anything and I can't wait to tell y'all but I'm going to say that for their interview so long story short. Let's see favorite products okay favorite hair dye. I have not died my own hair in a long time. I did it for a very long time but now I'm treating myself often having it done however I will just go to Sally's and I would buy a color and a developer depending on my needs. My color is very my real hair. Color is dark brown and I would lift it to a red or light red so therefore I would use a thirty developer which is is very high now the past few years I've been doing a twenty which is a little less intense because I was trying not to like over strip my hair which I was doing <hes> which is why my hair like literally didn't grow over five years but go into Sally's or your local beauty supply store and I would say watch youtube. 's Do research go up to somebody who you think has good hair and ask them what they use. You know because I can't tell you what haired either by. It's going to depend on your color. How much lift you WanNa get how permanent you wanted to be etc etc but you definitely should do some research? 'cause I love a D._I._Y.. <hes> hair products on a budge. y'All know I'm a boozy ass bitch so it's hard for me to answer that question. <hes> I think somebody else asked me at some point my hair regimen. I'M GONNA wait and get into it on that question. Because I have a list of all my products great okay next question. How are you doing? I hope you're healing and treating yourself with Love Pink Heart Emoji. Thank you for that question does so nice if I'm being honest. I'm doing okay. Some days are easier than others. <hes> the stages of grief are real and they're not linear and there was a while where I thought I was doing real great and then all of a sudden. I'm angry again. I'm sad again. I'm I am a bargaining again some days. I do all of them. Sometimes I'm very depressed some days. I'm very happy it's a very wild ride. I'm on <hes> but in general I'm doing okay and I thank you very much for asking and checking in with me. <hes> <hes> you know my my wedding. Anniversary is tomorrow if you're listening to this July fifteen by my three year wedding anniversary is July sixteenth and just thinking about it makes me very sad <hes> because you know it feels like a failure. The divorce feels like a failure and take it for me. I I did the very best I could given the tools. I was given in the moment and now I'm doing a lot of work on myself and I'm. I'M NOT GONNA pick the wrong person again. That's really exciting and this was supposed to happen. This is what was supposed to happen. It's horrible and it's been really painful but I know that it's for the best and <hes> that's beautiful and I'm really I'm proud of myself for doing the work better late than never you know I've always been a late bloomer and <hes> this journey. I'm on and it's beautiful so thank you for that question okay next question. How has your journey with therapy going? Doing you know what I think might have just answered that going exceptionally well and it I we focused a lot on my divorce in my relationship with my husband and now we're not even talking about him much now. We've gone deeper honey. We're talking about childhood childhood. We're talking about my parents divorce. We're talking about my house growing up. We're talking about like things that <hes> occurred throughout my life <hes> kind of the themes that have been following me through my entire life. I really interesting posting stuff. The therapist has extremely insightful and was shocked when I told her I'd never been there before and I was like yes any it's insightful so it's the best it's going. It's going so well. L. And it's very expensive but you know what it's really important to me and I'm doing it right now. Okay next question. How's meditation going? If I'm being honest not good okay. You know what somebody had to break something had to give and guess what it was. It was the not M. transcendental meditation not going well. I fell out of the practice. I'm going to be honest. I I think it's great but getting into the practice of it is not easy especially when you live in unpredictable life such as mine some some days. I have to get up at four A._M.. Because I book something and beyond said or this day I have I stayed you have to have a very regimented schedule and you have to block out an hour of your day thirty minute thirty minute block and I was just I fell out of the practice yes I yesterday. I went to a group meditation at the T._M.. Center in Los Villas which is where I trained which is the most popular training facility in the world is the Los feeless which is a neighborhood in L._A.. transcendental Meditation Center and <hes> You you know people are just coming in and out of there with a damn rotating door and I was one of them and I went through the training and then I was like wait a minute this is I got to really work on this so <hes> you know it's an expensive investment and I'm GONNA get back into it but if I'm being honest meditation is. Not going that well. I'll keep you updated. I'm hoping to get back into it okay next question. Is it hard maintaining a healthy self image in L._A.. Yes it is extremely fucking extremely. I don't know that's probably true for wherever you live because of social media instagram if you follow any bitch l. a. on his you know the standards here are getting out of control. <hes> there's things about me. I never had issues with and now all of a sudden. I hate them because it's hard so yes it is hard. You didn't ask me how to help so I'm not going to get into it but yes. It's very fucking hard. It's very hard especially being in your mid thirties re entering the dating scene <hes> yeah yeah honey it is okay. It's extremely hard so oh thank you for that question. Okay what's next. How often do you get facials? How often would you recommend you get one? If I'm honest not often because I'm cheap and you know on a budget right. Now I think once it's a month would be really great. Once every three months to six months would be great and if you can't pull that once a year once a year I think is great but if you've got the money honey get once a month you're you're set on that and I think most petitions would agree. That's probably a good amount <hes> okay next. It sounds Corny but what's your best post breakup self-care advice therapy therapy therapy therapy therapies self-care therapy therapy therapy talk about the break-up talking about what happened talk about how you feel talk about how you Never WanNa make the same mistakes again. Get to the bottom of it. <hes> recognized red flags as soon as they come up. You know these are things that you can go to therapy and work on so that's it honey go to therapy okay and I know it's not easy in this country makes it difficult but do some research. There's clinics was sliding scales in your city <hes> if you live in L._A.. There's a bunch of them. There's a lot of APPS now. Talk Space is great. 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Damn laser and they do very thorough work in a very fair price and they're very like <hes> like I said I would say the bedside manner not the best but they get in there with that laser in that Pussy in that Aso in your pit wherever and they do a great job and they always have a group on they always have a discount if you sign up for their email they've done great work. I mean that one of the best things I ever did for myself was laser hair removal. If you're a person who doesn't like body here I'm telling you I was just before the July party my bikini line. I posted a photo of me in a very high cuts swimsuit. That photo is unedited. I didn't edit out a single bump. I have the most beautiful bikini line in L.. A. Honey and it's because of fixed laser center no they're not paying me but <hes> laser hair removal work extremely well on me because I pale skin and dark hair that the contrast of the hair and the skin is an ideal candidate. It worked like a fucking jam. They do great work there so that's where I go okay. This person asked me. How do you clean your shower interesting question? I use the method shower cleaner. It's like a spray and I believe it comes in lots of Yummy sense and you just spray it in there when you're done and it keeps the grime off. I have no rhyme in my shower or D.. Bathtub gets a ring of you know because I use lots of oils in bad bonds and things what do I do. I use Bon Ami which is like a sort of a natural Ajax or comet and ascribe daddy and I scrub the the the ring out and I do that. Every once in a while keeps keeps a fresh. I love a weird question and I appreciate that. How many times a week do you hang with friends? I'm here for these questions. I think this is interesting. I would say a if you can't dates sunny. I would say three to four yeah. That's probably accurate but you know I'm in a new stage in my life where I'm going out more and I'm being around around people more and whatnot so three to four. Maybe four to five if I'm being honest. Take that okay next question. How do you stay consistent with the skin care routine when there's so much new stuff to try that's why I have an entire hi room in my house full of products because it stressful to me to throw in a new product and knowing I'm not gonNA use it all the way up and it's thing basically I have a routine and I will throw in a product and try it for a couple of weeks and then I'll rotate it out? I'll rotate it in a rotated out so I'll maintain contain a base routine and I will rotate out one product at a time <hes> and that's usually how I do. It and I think that I think I asked You kisser that when she was here and I think she had the same answer but if you WANNA release into the one of Nashville Jacobs because a you could get her opinion as well and I'll try to remember and ask any other influencers that when they come in here okay next Hey Jackie whoa this is my niece. My niece is too so this is not my knees but there's somebody who considers the ant which I love hand Jackie. What are your top five favourite lush products? I'm a lush virgin. You know what here's what I say. First of all the bath bombs second of all the celestial moisturizer third. I love their like lemony fluffer butter cuticle oil. I really love their <hes>. They do this one moisturizer lotion. That's like their charity lotion so it rotates out because they give the money to one hundred percent of the proceeds go to a different charity so I don't know what it is right now but it's just gooey Yummy oily. I just SP- spread our my legs and everywhere I go. I leave a little slime behind and that's my vibe of the summer so that's my other one. I don't know if that was five. Sleepy the sleepy lotion is on there but here's what I'll say go into lush in see what you are drawn to. I it's like when Melinda Lee home was talking about crystals. It's like what Krystal do you want. Just go into a Christmas shop and poke around and see what you intuitively to Italy are drawn to there are so many things in lush. You don't know what you're going to need. You know what you're going to go in there and just start playing around and see what you like what you're drawn to what smells good what feels good what fits into your vibe. That's really and I understand can be intimidating. There's a lot of stuff in there and especially depending on the salesperson you get some are a little more engaging than others you know but their corporate culture they always higher friendly people and they don't force you to buy anything they're not like very pushy in there so just go in there and have a good time. That's my advice. Fill it out. What are some healthcare things you do that have a positive impact on your mental health therapy but also my nails and getting my hair done like going out to a salon or or a place of business and getting up professional to do something to you? You don't even know when I started out of that salon after getting my hair done I've never I was in slow motion. I was a slow motion hot girl walking being at that Salon. I was like honey this me now same with when I get a fresh my fresh manny you know my yes honey. I've taken over the world. My hands are gorgeous and I can do anything so I think <hes> anything where a professional handles yo honey. The Lips <music> the injections when I walk out Lena Metcalfe's office with my lips done. I'm like yes. I'm a new person so yes I live in l.. A. And I'm a monster but that's the truth tips tips for maintaining a genuine and positive social media experience okay. Here's what I do. I Open <HES> instagram and I hit like on the first photo I see I scrolled for maybe thirty seconds and then I fucking close it. You know I also follow a multitude of accounts. I don't follow people that look like me. I follow you know all types of people all sizes all everything okay expire expand your mind. Don't live in a bubble follow. Some humanitarian counts else follows. Some social causes that you're into <hes> follow animals follow funny memes follow things that bring you joy and that open and expand your mind not just hot chicks you know selling skinny tummy t expand you know do what you gotTa do and I think that will probably help need some green beauty rex for after Sun care even though we cream the neck well if you burnt up I you know listen it happens go to the drugstore and buy a a tube of Aloe Vera Gel cheap easy and works great. Put it in the fridge and when you get back rub that shit all over okay because Aloe Vera don't quote me but it ain't GonNa hurt Ya okay rub it on your burntness. Rub It on your face. Take a moment. That's the cheapest and easiest thing you can do. I know they make like Kula makes a great after <hes> after Sun Lotion that you could check out so there you go. I hope that answers that question. Okay let's see. Do you think you'll ever do a live show tour I would love to we just need more people to listen to attribute first so if you WanNa see me on a tour near you let's spread the word about Natch Byu get more people listening right now. If I did a world tour it'd be probably five of us. It's in a room and I don't think any touring management companies are interested in five-person audience so yes I would love to do a tour and I will do one. One snatch butte hits a new level so yes thank you for everybody for listening by the way okay this question just says men's routines you know everything's gendered and I love that there are more and more guys out there getting into a routine. If you have a man in your life that's interested in a routine gene the here's where you start of face wash okay. I know so many guys who don't even wash their face really get a face wash get one. That doesn't have a scent get one. That isn't florally get one. That's in a neutral bottle auteuil. There's lots of options. Take them to target shopping around see what is drawn to him or check out his vibe going to shower kind of see what the bottles of his stuff look like. Get something similar you know we got to kind of play to their instincts right a basic face wash see ask him. Do you like a foam. Do you like a Gel Kinda. Get his vibe face wash and a moisturizer and you know same rules apply in that regard get in one. It doesn't have a scent get him one. That's a neutral jar. Get Him one that looks nice so that he'll be drawn to it and he'll actually use it so face wash moisturizer and a sunscreen for the day. That is the base routine that we should all be doing no matter what gender under you are. That's the base so get that man on those three things now. If you WANNA get a wild you could throw in a tone or you could throw in a serum. You could throw in an eye cream but that's if you WANNA get wild. If you don't WanNA get freaky Dicky start with the basics six and I think any guy could get on board with that okay. Let's see who are the ever so slightly tinted at all. Are you ever so slightly got. It are the ever so slightly tinted at all times glasses growing on you great question Alex Okay so let me back up everything so I was wearing my worby Parker's for about half a year loved them. My laurels with the tea rose fade. If I'm being honest I lost them. I don't know where the fuck they are in the thing about when you lose glass is you have to have glasses to find glasses because you're blind you know without your glasses so I don't know where my glasses are. I've looked everywhere in my house. I don't know maybe. Maybe I was traveling. I left them in a case. I don't know but my laurels my worry. Parkers are missing worby semi some more thanks so when I was in Austin at South by South West I walked up to Xeni optical. They had a booth and I said Hey I love any and I told him I was. I dropped namedrop myself and they're like Oh. Here's a coupon for a free pair of glasses so I tried on a pair I liked. They're really cute. They're they're clear around how went home I went on the website and I found them based on the searching I searched clear and round and I found him and I bought him with this coupon right in because it was free. It was basically like you could get any pair of glasses. New Out of the cost and Xeni is like really good in the way of like are are you on a real budget great but you can also do a lot of add ons. They're like okay. Do I want to put a coating on my glasses so that they don't get <hes> scratch. Do I want to turn them into transitional lenses. Do I WANNA put like blue blockers on them. All these you can do all kinds of things you know different levels and price points because I'm a cheap as big okay and they cater to my cheapness because they were like free. I'm going to get the most expensive fucking lenses that they have of course. Wouldn't you do that if you were told you get free glasses so oh I picked the most expensive lenses they were like. Do you want to block blue light. I said of course I can wear these at night. When I'm <hes> you know looking at my computer or whatever I got him somewhere in the the choices I clicked that I want them to have a tent on them and I guess it's a transitional tint but doesn't matter even in the in the darkest room? There is still a tent on them like a gray wash. I hate them. I love the frames but I fucking hate them. The grey does not serve my skin tone. I feel like I look like Ozzy. Osbourne <hes> you know or a John Lennon moment but not in a chic way. I don't like it if I'm being honest. I don't like to transition a lenses and I'm not gonNA use them but right now. These are my glasses 'cause I if I might war race in my others ends are pink and they leave it on my nose so I'm not trying to have it so this is where I'm at right now can I am I blind or do I say this is where I'm at or am I have fucking Ozzy Osbourne Gray it lands is those are my three options that presented themselves to me at this stage in my life so no the answer is no. I have not gone used to them and I I need to find my war beezer. I need to just buy more okay. Okay okay. We're almost to the end already and there's so many more questions next question. Just says composting you know Venus tried out Vegan each other and I'm going to be honest. I do not compos at this stage in my life. What I like liked to get to that point? Of course I would of course I would but right now in this transitional time period composting is not on my list of priorities so if I start composting y'all will be the first people I tell so get excited about that but no currently I'm not composting. If I do <hes> I'll let you know do you ever have self doubt and if so how do you push through it of course I do and I do all the time I would argue. I probably do more than I don't but you know what therapy number one therapies helping number two <hes> I read this book called you are bad ass Jen cinch herro which just Rona recommended to me <hes> and it's an amazing book that's really it was wonderful especially during like my divorce and things so try reading that book is she also just talks about all these little things you can do to help psych yourself up in life <hes>. I'm not doing all of them but one of them is a soundtrack and this is something that I never did ed before. I never used to have music playing the music I wanted playing. I never had the media that I wanted playing in my house. You know <hes> now honey. I have a cookie divorced lady playlist on my spotify and I say I say Alexa play my my divorce lady you know mix and she was on music. fucking changes your energy. It changes the mood and the VIBE. If you're trying to psych yourself up for a meeting <hes> a date you know an orgy whatever whatever you're on your way to that you need to be pumped up for put on music the music that pumps you up that makes you confident you know what I mean. That's an easy thing that they she recommended his book and I'm like yeah a soundtrack to your life. It makes perfect sense. When I'm sad I put on music and I lean into it and I saw and I cry when I'm happy I put on happy music and I really like feel it and it pumps me up so give yourself a soundtrack if you're having self-doubt put on like you know bulletproof or whatever whatever or Carrie Underwood or whatever serves you you know okay? You know what's crazy. We've already hit half an hour and I have so many more questions to answer so guess what you're GonNa have to tune in next week because we have so how many questions and I love them. y'All covered so many crazy things <hes> you ask me all kinds of questions and I'm happy to answer them so we're going to wrap this up. Thank you so much for listening. Please let me know what you think of these men as if you have ideas for them <hes> you can <hes> d._m.. Me On the natch instagram you can email me at Jackie at Nashville DOT COM <hes> I've been really behind all my emails and I'm so sorry one hundred percent because of my nails my have a Mac book pro and as very flat keys and I literally can't hit the keys with my nails even though my nails aren't even that long so don't like well. Do I come shorter in order to serve my career these emails but I really liked the link they are so. It's a stressful situation so d._M.. Me On attribute INSTAGRAM JACKIE NATIONALLY DOT com. Let me know if you have ideas if you're enjoying these <hes> just let me know because feedback is helpful and once again thank you so much for listening. <hes> you deserve to be happy. I'm talking to you and.

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390: Shout Out Lightning Round

If I Were You

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390: Shout Out Lightning Round

"This is a head gum podcast you actually know about this way again after being adult by read every how were you shows about parenting why the hell on earth cast audio settled down and other show down low okay oh elected that was like dave matthews band chic but not quite dave matthews band cover right sexually in original adapter from song of his called subversion shout out to jake because amir never does i don't know what that means i don't shut you out i guess 'em this guy what you don't show me out is the jets ajay cause a mere never does yeah that's true you don't shut me out enough you're never like shutouts jacob big ups to jake or like give it up for jake if were talking to each when would i ever say shout out to jake wall i speaking to you when you like introduce the show like hey this is if i were you only advice podcast on the internet hosted by us i'm a mirror shutouts jake no that's what i would say if you weren't there why would i shout out what you could save big up big ups to jake then like i'm a mere big ups to my co host and then i will be like jake here but you never do that shit yeah no he's right it's fine i don't like it goes away heavily on me it is what it is but it does way a little bit which is i think it's too much i think it doesn't way but chips away it doesn't yeah heavy but chips away that's bad chipping away is worse than weighing heavy yeah i i would say it's this episode is maybe the straw that breaks the camel's back i feel like i've been i've been in absolute ox yeah i i hate to even think of myself as a camel withdrawn they're back but like i think i've been in ox if anything anything so that's not how i yeah this is written by a friend sorry i guess you just got to say that i just wonder if i could finish aunt i've been ox is finally broken under the weight of olive you're olive you're slights you're not an olive you're you're snide asides you're you're you're you're a dry stick you're incredibly breakable i'm not i'm not of a fucking i have like i feel like i have the mental fortitude of of of a of a of an ox in a way i don't think you're an ox i don't think you're strong i don't think you're mentally strong is specially not mentally so i have yeah i have like it's it's i think i have like this this armor and it's hard not to hurt my feelings but sometimes things like a lifetime of snyder side will guides for sure chip away at my oxen constitution should end that leaves me in a vulnerable state which is not normal for me to be to be insecure and sad and scared by john here we are yes here we are a this guy wrote this saw which really derail this is calvin was exposed are we found days i you know what i miss read it it's a shot at a mirror jake never does really yeah which whatever i guess better theater that to a all right this is if i were you the only advice podcast on the internet hosted by us a it's a holiday week wednesday july third at the time of recording this a post on a monday july eighth right around the fourth of july very entry optic i thought would celebrate not with fireworks but with a lightning round episode shit that's cool thank you so these are questions that we and not submitted how do you say like requested on twitter solicited yes solicited that's right shutout the jake a very finally get the fucking credit i'm do a so we solicited some questions some quick hits hits on twitter 'em got over a hundred we're gonna try to get to as many as possible right off the bat jake why don't you let a two and then we could just go back and forth i love that idea a here's a quick and easy one best john row of food says lucas myers 'em i think it's a real toss up between mexican jet a he's a lawyer narrow it down to i also like greek okay between two of those guys 'cause there's others and i really enjoy like i'll tell you what why don't go having a little emanation i do texmex 'cause i've heard of a fusion that way i get the barbecue ended up marito i'll say japanese street food because i feel like that includes sushi sushi and burgers doesn't okay and i say which one is pad thai but also a grilled cheese oh that's fucking true food so good i'm i'm hungry gimme a fucking comfort food that has like cereal but also general so's yeah man damn what is it what is your favorite genre i'll i'll go with a real a underrated one i think is tie tie really came onto the scene a little later in my life but i'm never disappointed in tie even baptize good to me oh interesting i guess so i also don't love cheese enough to go mexico or american gotcha thai food is she useless right i think i mean i love mexican food 'cause i like i love rice beans cheese bread but mexican food is not have enough bacon in it at they're not americanized version of it and for that reason why american eighth of july code is cuisine of all time fucking got it right big ups to the george washington props the john hancock banks were getting it done yeah i want an impossible burger at a side or rice cider i give me a fucking read an outside of brown around rice sure a livia a hot dog char broiled burnt to a crisp oh and had the cider right you want a hot dog and then on the side of the hotdogs he's just deemed white rice hotdog have a burger and then on the side yeah and other side right you got it all right any any other questions that you found out 'em let's see a lot of these are about basketball which i don't mind but i don't wanna make about the whole show i mean this isn't a buckets episode after oh i like this question if you guys had a host another head gum podcast which one would you choose wow that if we could receive a a diva the show from one of are amazing artist you could check out a headcount duck yeah yeah yeah who would we leave i would say punch up the jam but i'm not talented enough to come up with new songs a all fantasy everything seems really fun you just get to rank you're favorites stuff yeah that's i think all fantasy everything is probably one of the coolest formats m i like billion adam show that's really that's a that's a really a nice little a nice little game that they play yeah we borderline do that now but we give advice but yeah they take a topic and discuss their like previous present and future with them so that's yeah that's a good structure i think it's really not structure shutout to no joke pod shutout at all fantasy everything shot out to punch up the jam and a big ups to jake thanks dude that's awesome new here i don't hear that enough a dream holiday destination i guess that means vacation this is actually very interesting because i i'm i'm getting closer and closer the actually going on my honeymoon interesting one year after the fact a someday i might actually do is it a honeymoon if it's just a vacation with your wife nineteen months after the wedding it's honestly turning to it's getting to the point where it does not count as a hunting if you don't if you if you don't take it within a year yeah not a honeymoon and i wanna i wanna air air all of my grievances against my wife on this pot i mean she can't make up her mind but she i begged i begged to go on a honeymoon right after the wedding i've always wanted to be whisked away to a romantic look location and it's been two weeks you know driving italian coaster hiking the french alps 'em but no i couldn't do not after the wedding was too busy we'd already taking time off of work planning the wedding that's right so yeah when you know i feel like weddings get bigger and bigger now so it's you need more time you need more time off to play on the thing and then you can't do the honeymoon right a the and then the plan was to go on her honeymoon this summer but it just joe got a new job i can't fuck yeah just just the dream vacation destination i guess i fucking win i mean you know having an awesome time you are gonna go on vacation it just won't be within the may random arbitrary betrayed twelve month mark which i'm not really sure what that means yeah yeah anyway no but were fighting align now where do you wanna go i wanna i wanna i wanna know skate and that's what i want that is that too much to ask i think the beaches too much to ask for i've been so i really have been thinking about my honeymoon and what i wanna do is like be the french italian in swiss alps in the in the middle of summer like alpine lakes a snowcap mountains valleys with flowers that's that's my vibe that's what i want but then i've seen some friends been going to greece unlike diving off catamaran into a crystal blue ocean seems pretty fucking perfect to some i'm torn so far through crushed ends up in both answers you're on the fence torn can't decide not is right on time linen have japan radio that way you and eat every meal with the cider rice that's my dream vacation is tokyo never been here a great things want to attend i feel what the question is what see what is what's the what is it what's the question exactly dream a my dream a holiday destination okay so that's that's when we have not been to where we wanna go yeah 'em cool so i guess in that case i'll say the dalmatian coast of croatia very nice thank you m a a a a okay brittany howard rights top five things to do in both l a's new york first someone who will be traveling to both from canada in the near future your favorite things to do in both she wants ten things but why don't we just why don't we give her a few yeah i mean it's been hard for me the answer much simpler question well actually having five does help a little bit yeah okay you go new york i'll go away okay depending when you're visiting i think a seeing some kind of sports thing is a fun way to like experience new york 'cause you gotta get on the subway subway you have to kind of do the transportation and then you're also surrounded by lots of new yorkers so if there's like a yankees game a mets game 'em there could also be you know you're in the if it's later in the summer maybe there's even usa open happening that'd be really cool that's cool all right i'll still that further a dodger game and then also go west side santa monica a rent a bike which i don't know how to actually ride but i hear good things you can go to santa monica ventas eat on d a near the beach shop around i enjoy yourself out there yeah biking down the santa monica boardwalk is cool also pro tip i believe friday night dodger games there's a firework show i guess that's a solid tip 'em back to the big grapple a fuck i guess i'll just i'll i i'm i'm flustered so i'll just stacey a broadway show that dog there though that's that's all you should definitely do that and i'm gonna think carter first tip number three okay a lot of good good street tacos you could almost do like street tacos tour were talking taco trucks that are very well respected highly regarded if you want some authentic mexican taco trucks i'm sure there's a blogger website that tells you exactly where to go eat some you're you're new favorite foods if you're new favorite john rose food this by shared a story out of the way if i had a weed out the accident because you could see it all robbers very offended about the staten island yet stan i i i it's a all right you'd rather another question a yeah this one i like it's june vodka or tequila an alternative into a fuck mary kill oh interesting i will 'em a m mary vodka is that when a offends me the least okay 'em i will kill jen because i'm not a fan okay an expert tequila fuck tequila i'm not a fan of that either way okay okay yeah yeah got it okay i think i liked peculiar the most but i'm still gonna kill it because it gives me the most problems i see it hurts yeah it hurts me it hurts me bad and i'll fuck fuck vodka 'cause i could fuck with vodka nice engine on marriage and 'cause i have too much respect virginia fuck you know a that's really cool like a is it my turn oh yeah it's my turn here's a basketball one that's more about jake it's how little will jake care if collide leonard goes to the lakers this'll be instantly dated collider live made his decision by the time this comes out so how little he share how do you make a decision by the a he's dragging feet but i believe he has to make it for the lakers sake by july sixth oh wow yeah interesting 'cause like free agency is such a long time but there that you have to decide by july six like wait months before it's over a yes exactly i mean like ninety nine point nine percent of people decide within the first day to it's very rare that it's taken this long a it's july third at the time of recording i'm guessing he decides to their tomorrow interesting so you're saying the question is how much will it matter to me yeah do you care at all as a lebron fan i'd like to hear you're answered before i if mine a i sort of talked about it on buckets yesterday but i've never cared about anything more than where collide leonard science it's keeping me up at night at stressing me out i'm refreshing blogs i'm in the deep web i'm texting friends china find any inside information everything is completely locked down i'm losing sleep i'm tired angry in annoyed and i'm starting to think he won't sign with the lakers so all this will be for not so how much do you care bitch about if collide heard signs of the fucking alley lakers honestly my question to you is how much do you think i care i already know they care though a you know all right i'm sorry about that i think you're invested but you'll you'll enjoy lebron anthony davis on the lakers either yeah i guess would it ruin anything offer for you you if collide didn't sign with the lakers like would it diminishes the anthony davis trade that it will diminish the lakers and you're as a it'll there'll be a lot better with him it'll be at it'll be sad if he chooses the clippers slippers over the lakers then it's like i wanna living outlay but i wanna play with the clippers if he goes back the toronto i think that's completely understandable and that's where i'm leaning right now i think he's gonna just signed with this whole team for another year to is everyone else on that team still though yeah everyone else's a danny green is also a free agent but he would probably responded with toronto collide right yeah danny i think i'd rather than waiting to see what collide does yeah exactly interesting so do you care yeah i want him to be i guess if he was a laker i'd be super excited a but i think it would if it if you were to be remade raptor it also be very steady and i probably root for the raptors yeah next season again i can't i can't fault them for staying in toronto toronto toronto did their best efforts to keep this is a really mercurial silent breeding superstar so it'd be cool if they pulled it off yeah you got a question 'em let's see oh i just i just saw v a will take care of why goes to there's a lot of lakers questions i know i think i think people understand the stress i'm going through what's a smart way to get fired from your job is there a smart way a smart way well getting fired is better than quitting because you'll get severance 'em so right off the bat getting fired is a smart way of leaving a job but what the smartest way of getting getting fired that's it's i dunno 'cause like you you really have to it'll show up on you resonate to you yeah like you gotta that's you gotta think about that a little bit right yeah gimme like a you don't wanna be like they wanna call year old boss if you're like getting a new job what is two months severance if you're gonna get dragged when a when you get that reference yeah what if you a what if you find something about the ceo and you a black male him to firing you would like six months severance that way he has to speak glowingly of you he gives you cash not to work for the next half year and then whatever job you get next a he asked to give you a good reference that solid but you have to find some in a black male about yeah steel plant some sort of cd email material and usually people are 'em upton nefarious things regardless so it doesn't really really how fair this is a smart way to get fired the black millier boss i mean everyone's hiding a pretty pretty evil secret i know right off the top of my head i have like i must have five dr evil little deeds said i'm like currently navigating in terms of how people they're down or lying like yeah i get like a five evil deeds just like nasty little secrets that could ruin when you on the day like how many do you have like just to say them obviously because they would ruin not only year life but other people's but like how many nasty little evil things do you have that sort of you're you rumbling in your head we rumbling in my like you do all night scare you make it you can't look in the mirror for too long good i have an example of one of yours we could edit this part of the show yeah so like and example of one of mine is that i i 'em i accidentally quote unquote at ended somebody in high school students is like i made someone not be persona non grata body guyana in high school you disappeared somebody i banished somebody else with the one trace but the trace is a clue that i sit on and i find myself in times of sorrow wondering came of me yeah you're sociopath you're a psycho yes if he could find something like that on your boss if you're absolutely sick that's a smart way that's smart 'em i have another one okay we're finally pleased indie what class do you think he'd play okay let's take a break an answer this question on the other side of these messages because i need to ask you a a lot of questions about that hell yeah thank you to know bull first sponsoring this episode of our show sponsor baby hell yeah it's time to demand more from your workout gear jake damn i love workout gear a noble is footwear apparel and accessories branford people who train hard and don't believe in excuses that's my shit all hoosier boy did exercise for three years on broken he'll editorial yeah you use a 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edges of civilization oh sorry i save a ranger a rogue rogue scoundrel who uses stealth and trickery overcome obstacles at enemies all right stop talking that's me i want the road the scoundrel i wanna be a sharp wit man who absolutely takes advantage of his foes with my fast thinking quick witted this will you could also be a wizard 'cause that's a scholarly magic user jonah be smart that's like a class you could use jr smith i'd really like to be a needle nose a mouse see little road so you can't play a rat folk rogue yeah and i'm just like answer me these questions for at everyone like doesn't want to deal with me 'cause i kind of rican shit but i think that i'm in charge of things that i'm not actually short of oh does that sound super fun yeah like i'm knowledgeable about barges 'cause i never left you know yeah i like that yeah a rat folk rogue we figured it out what is rat folks there's the dmv has classes in races in awe of the races you know there's like your typical stuff like dwarf else half elf a half ling like the things from you see from like lord of the rings a but then there's also like these sub races like a a rat humanoid rat humanoid yeah okay okay that's pretty that's the closest thing to a chip what do i care about what a chipmunk would play i guess you could play something that's like not anything like you as a person but it's kind of fun but like you are chipmunk in real life and then you could play a chipmunk in 'em anti anti okay nice i'm not yeah i mean i could play it chipmunk like i could be like oh i'm gonna pretend i'm chipmunk and whatever but i'm not you know that i'm not one what you are chip my boat you don't get to decide that bob yoga decide what you are man what did you ever breakfast today this is so fucked up cause for about a week i normal shit and then today i had seven soft acorns her breakfast and you ask me what did i have for breakfast today day today is the day you know why that's chipmunk food in a way i had soft acorns a series of seeds all right so let me figure that out yeah are coming on that pot if you guys hit some sort of patriotic marker something yeah yeah i forgot to ask you about that but if we hit a patriot and go on a nap on you have to be on it so k where at where ninety percent of the way they're also nice so i do have to do it eighty nine percent complete a mirror gas if we hit the school amir blumenthal will finally under the studio it'd be forced to dungeons and dragons works or eighty nine percent of the way there who i hope i don't hold out and make you guys give me a lot of cash to play had hates you guys to be he deemed as liars erta various schools but taking advantage of you patriotic yeah you're perfect visiting character absolutely a all right connor kevin says would you rather drink one pint of p every six months or all we have a tiny bit of p in any water you drink so i say that one more time excuse me so would you rather drink a pint a p every six months or always have a tiny bit of p in any water you drink who probably the pines every six months yeah just get it over with just like one day pound slam boom yeah i go at tiny bit of paean just convince myself but there's no pp in there i think it would always tastes a little hint a little bit of p and then like how often you share what like if you if i have a five water and someone's like taking a sip of that i'd have to be like you don't 'cause i drink more water with a little bit of p an outsider rice insider rice a so you're gonna find ongoing for a micro pp yeah 'em interesting question cage edgar rights what's the worst form of self expression like don't find yourself in any way i guess stop stop discovering new things things about yourself in a creative outlet yeah so what would you say a fucking painting the worst a painting is fine i don't mind painting it's therapeutic and interpretive david yeah interpretive dance pretty bad because it it always looks like regardless of if it's good or bad it always looks pretty weird right i also feel like dan there's some like writing painting music they all feel kind of personal like even though their shared with a wider audience later and maybe that's the goal but interpretive dance almost it's the whole purpose is that you have to do it in front of people right so you can't just interpretive dance buyer sell yeah so it's always about sort of just like showing off a poetry is pretty bad no poetry fucking rules i love poetry would you rather have skin made a denim are always have to wear a jacket made of human skin it's almost like they're working together and ask us would you rather have a bad thing once or a little bad thing forever well the i think i guess you you always have to wear a skin jackets that's pretty fucking foul yeah it's not ideal i guess i'd rather be denna man it's like a cool little superhero yeah why doesn't anybody liked me you're sort of tucked away in an attic somewhere and levi strauss factory factory denim and at school that's actually a good commercial yeah that's a good idea here we go a pleasant park at kyle more writes a how would you make a p b nj peanut butter and jelly on both sides of the bread peanut butter on one side jelly on other these are important questions surged to a i mean first of all best sandwich in the world a is peanut butter layered with bananas drizzled with chocolate fuck with chips bread on top of that that's the sandwich that is the p b c c c which the third see sorry wait pb oh yeah pbc pb sandwich so nice you couldn't name at once i named it i named it twice the same time pbc p b b e c k state of a different name for it peanut butter banana chocolate chip bbc meanwhile fire answer eating your ankle they've called the divine ain't great get the p p b b shit so you need to do jelly on one side peanut butter on other flipped the peanut butter over onto the jam a cause that's the one that's gonna adhere to the bread better it won't drip but then once you have that flip it back over because the the gym should sit on top of the peanut butter it's a little more a as sort of like a layer that's protecting a firm seepage down to the bottom okay yeah i grew up in an israeli household so we don't really have pb and j i think the first time i had pb and j with your family family like at age twenty five yeah remember we gave you the first one wasn't an an tuck it yeah so i don't really know how to make it i assume i would put peanut butter and jelly on one side and i just closed it i'm not gonna put it on both sides looking open face sandwich and then closed that you got one oh yeah this is another food and a weather thing a lawyer sexually it's the first weather thing but it's another food thing anyway chaotic chad rights favorite foods slash weather combo food slash weather gimme gimme rahman on overcast day it's sixty one out oh and guess what i'm abby pork brought in a bowl with aside or rice you do you love soup you'll love hot soup so you're you're whether it's gonna affect the food right like you're you're food ruthless is gonna have an effect on the whether you're saying yeah food like what a bunny out until i had the rahman and now that i have the rahman it affects affects the weather but years but lots of or yeah you're favorite thing you're like i'm thinking of food and then i'm gonna think of the weather the match that i think for me i'm thinking whether first so i'm going like seventy seventy five degrees chris low humidity with a nice breeze in on eating fish tacos and guess what's on the side what right now i figured it's much by the way you're favorite food and whether both l a's staples so i don't know what you're doing out there it's it's eighty and sunny today in new york okay i'm gonna get fish tacos in aside i wear glen rice seasonal basketball player course a letter grades are you guys climbing these days rights architect i am climbing fours and attempting five oh on the v scale that's pretty solid outlined in a while you could still but you're exercising if he would still get up a v three thanks man i appreciate that i don't know a lot of it has to do just how stronger hands and arms and fingers and that kind of stuff you can't you can't replicating the gym yeah it's true i miss climbing a little bit but i also know that it hurts me a lot it does hurt you yeah just like whenever i have a small ache like a bruised ribs climbing hurts that off a bum ankle climate hurts that climbing really just like finds the thing that hurts a little bit and makes it a focus a focal point of pain that's interesting i actually i have pain almost all the time and i don't have it when i climb so maybe that's why it's a better sport for me like when i run i'll i'll hurt for like two straight days interesting and i still do that anyway 'cause i liked so much a all right we got this i question doesn't really make any sense to me i'll ask you why why not max heckert says what percentage of people you think subscribe to the notion of i'm not starving but i could eat but with pooping that make any sense to you know but with pooping like i don't have i don't have to go to the bathroom but i could shit is that what do you mean stuffing the top what percentage of people do you think subscribe to the notion of i'm not starving but i could eat but with pooping oh i see so what percentage of people are like you know i don't really have to take a shit but i could shit i yeah i mean you can't do that you can't just you can't force herself the shit yeah what are you waiting for the last possible moment sitting down and it's an instant expel or you're like all right it's that time of day i'll sit on the toilet and wait and see i never wait and see if i don't have the shit i don't shit that's off but i i'm not like i don't wait until i do it's an emergency either if i'm like i feel like after shit i could always just shit that i don't really have like a like a i i you know i'm not that regular like at the same time every single day but i like take shit you know yeah but you you will one day or yeah apparently like when every six and a half weeks but it's like yeah wait no i'm actually it's a ladder so i'll shit every six and a half weeks it is that moto denver apple it's also hard but it's as if feels heavier than a cannonball like all i've chipped the porcelain on my toilet with the density of of this marvel is basically like a black hole 'em yeah so and that's why every month and a half nicolas ask no no i'm not done by the way do you know what the densest material on earth is the heaviest heaviest metal o m mercury it's actually off me on that's right the heaviest metal is off me on so for whatever reason you seem to be shutting off me on every month and a half and you should get that checked out right how heavy is awesome you couldn't tell you twenty two grams per cubic centimeter design answer your question a yeah it does chad benson asked what is the best condiment a who go condiment might go condiment is barbecue sauce yeah i do know that about you actually you also like teriyaki yeah i was gonna go teriyaki 'cause you can't really put barbecue on the goat food aside or rice aside well if you're gonna go decided rice you're gonna wanna soy i us soil rice years is hot sauce rare racia i put it on everything i love it when things have that kick actually lock 'em i like honey mustard gonna say really is a great oh you gotta verbally attacked me there sorry yeah i forgot they also like a sweet muster that was a little it's a little emotionally abused man sorry about that a lot like a spicy things to a really really hurt my feelings with the way they yelled at me that way with regard to how how would how it would affect me yeah sorry about that is buying a james argument says patio shark in social situations i don't jesus all right how do you hide a shirt so you start what do you do what do they what we should go immediately excuse yourself you have to go to the bathroom and then what a throwaway her underwear you throw it away yeah wipe whatever way they underwear wipe clean yourself go back it's fine no one noticed you go home daily underwear under a clump of paper towels in the bathroom demanding this happening like at a bar in a public bathroom if you do it at a at a friend's house it's a little harder because you do you have to you you have to find a way to throw their underwear out yeah i guess i guess you could bury it you could probably excuse yourself go to go out to you're cargo the street that's good i forgot something in the street a i i have i have a white wine in my in my whip hold on i'll go outside and then you have to drive to store and get white white idea and you're still completely filled with the sharp because you haven't discarded younger or yet right you start sweating you fully shit your pants you have your food poisoning but three days later they wanna know whatever the white wine if you had food poisoning you gotta just go writes all day three days ever heard of the brat diet i prefer you rat diet at rice applesauce and rice on the side a all right last question from each of us ready yup who i wanna grim a little grim mass grimace says have you ever have you seen each other's before a high seniors have you see my that's a i guess i've seen you naked i dunno five specifically seeing the nuts of you all right like i wanna see you're sad senior talk as you're ads but i've i've seen the fucking testes senior rose but but i want you to grab you're talking dangle you're nuts i well yeah teabags do once but you're a sweet i decided not to do any we were living in los feeless together so that was when you were thirty four and thirty two oldest person using covered teabags somebody that's a good question probably fifty eight yeah i would say that to a this is a kind of a hard one but hopefully you have the answer a pro tom tom troy eight rights what's the least romantic thing someone has done for you lease romantic thing so what is it done and for me it's kind of hard yeah but it doesn't i m i guess there was one time i gave a girlfriend in high school a necklace that i thought she'd want it in like i'd saved up and i i like a lot had gone into me getting this nets necklace and the first thing she said was that it was the wrong what that's pretty unromantic what about dave urging you'd have a threesome with him oh yeah that was that was another weird one i came home from from a bar with somebody and dave was just like on the stairs like pointing to himself thing and i know you got mad at me yeah that's gotta be the league 'cause that's the opposite of romance but still in that genre romantic thing i've ever done to you what do you have an answer a now i mean my my a dave anecdote about you is my answer yeah that that's that tracks that's fair a all right thanks for listening everybody thinks reading in the opening theme song calvin yeager the closing one is a different calvin yeager song he submitted many weaken using otherwise if you have your own questions we usually get him at a if i were you show at g mail dot com and a as always will be back next week a don't if you're listening right now don't go back in time and spoil work hawaiians up because i still have faith that he'll end up on the lakers i think you will but takes that i needed to hear that a all right everybody a man a man he will be nine one manley revenge on a range so they die trying to be a

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Summer of 69: The Manson Girls Pt. 2

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Summer of 69: The Manson Girls Pt. 2

"Due to the graphic nature of these women's crimes listener discretion is advised this episode includes discussions of murder violence and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen gene. Linda CA Sabin walked down the hall to adore she had seen only once before in her hand. The wooden handle a knife grew hot and slippery as her poems began Dan to sweat last week she had met a new friend and actor who had moved to Hollywood to make it big she had liked the man she'd happily gone back to his apartment thrilled at how well the two of them got along she had wanted to return and now here she was although the circumstances had changed. Charlie wanted her to get her hands dirty. All of his followers had to be a part of helter skelter together. She gripped the knife tighter heider and wrapped on the door. She heard footsteps approaching on the other side. She looked down the hallway to her family. Members Susan Atkins and Clem Grogan. They stared back eager. Charlie had ordered a bloodbath and Charlie Manson always got what he wanted picture a murderer a- gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman. We didn't think so society associates men with dangerous crimes but what happens when the perpetrator is female every Wednesday Wednesday we examine the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals hi I'm Sammy Ni- and I'm Vanessa Richardson and you're listening to female criminals apar- cast original this week near the fifty fifty year anniversary of the infamous Manson family murders on August ninth and Tenth Nineteen Sixty Nine we finish our coverage of the women who fell into the Manson family and carried out murders in their leaders name. This episode is part of podcasts summer of sixty nine event July twenty second through August ninth. All your favorite podcast shows are teaming up to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of a landmark summer in American history. The summer bummer of Nineteen sixty-nine from the Manson murders to the moon landing were diving deep into the summer America hit a boiling point with twenty three special episodes across sixteen different podcast originals. We'll be digging into into the fallout of M._l._k.'s assassination a wide reaching l._S._d.. Colt and rumors of a Kennedy family cover up you can find these specials and more all in our new podcast presents feed on spotify or anywhere you listen to podcasts podcasts at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network several of you have asked how to help us if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help last week we met the women who became infamous for their air part in the Manson family murders some of the most gruesome cold blooded acts of violence in American history. Those women were twenty one year old Susan Atkins nineteen-year-old Leslie Van Houten Twenty One year old Patricia Krenwinkel Twenty Year Old Linda Kosabe Ian Twenty six year old Catherine Gypsy share and twenty year old Lynette squeaky from me. We detailed their sorted childhoods which left these women feeling neglected unloved and susceptible to the charms of sociopath Charles Manson by July of Nineteen sixty-nine. All five of these women were deep within Manson's fold and considered some of his most ardent followers Leslie van Houten has since described the impassioned sermons Charles Manson gave his family to prepare them for an oncoming race war called helter skelter. He represented himself as more divine than human calling himself off the son of man he believed he was both Jesus and the devil in one person and his followers accepted it wholeheartedly. The Manson family spent the summer of Nineteen sixty-nine preparing for the race war that Charlie believed would burn Los Angeles to the ground but when it failed to arrive he decided it was time to spark the war himself. This week will follow the chilling murders that made the Manson family notorious area once Manson realized his followers would kill for him. He made a plan to put helter skelter into motion by the time Gary Henman was murdered in late July of nineteen sixty nine Charles Charles Manson or Charlie as he was known around Spun Ranch had already plunged the families free love rhetoric in too much darker waters and largely because his followers were on a steady diet of pot l._S._d.. mescaline and a myriad of other drugs that have since fallen out of fashion they were overly susceptible to his ranting Vanessa's Gwen to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode just a Reminder Vanessa is neither a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist Trista. She has done a lot of research for the show. Thank Sammy as reported by Shanna Freeman and Nathan Chandler with how stuff works trace amounts of l._S._D.. Stay in a person system for weeks after a trip and while a person will begin begin to hallucinate on just point two five micrograms of L._S._D.. The average user in the nineteen sixties took four times that amount and considering the fact that the Manson family was partying on a nightly basis. The L._S._D.. Had No chance of ever fully leaving their system L._S._D.. Trips can last twelve hours which means they spent almost every waking Moment High Katrin propeller a researcher on a recent study conducted at the University Hospital for for Psychiatry in Zurich explained that typically our brains constantly filter out information that it does not think we need. She says the world around us is not the world we perceive because the Dallas filters out would it considers to be irrelevant information. We don't necessarily perceive all there is because that would be an overload of information but prowlers team hypothesized that L._S._d.. Caused the Salomon's to stop filtering out that the extra information l._S._D.. Causes Parts of the brain that typically have nothing to do with vision to begin contributing to what a user sees. This is what causes the hallucinations L._S._D.. Users report all of this extra information it provides for a very trippy experience one that filters away any sense of reality especially when used on a daily basis in short the Manson family literally lost touch with reality through their constant drug use making making them overly susceptible to Charlie's prophetic rantings throughout the summer of Nineteen sixty-nine he was able to scare his followers into believing that helter skelter was on their doorstep Charlie even recruited crude a local biker gang the straight Satan's to act as his army when helter skelter broke out he recruited them the same way he got everything he wanted by pimping out his female followers and providing the gang with mountains of drugs rugs and free booze. It's hard to say whether the straight Satan's actually believed they might be called upon to fight for Manson or if they just knew a free party when they saw one in addition to recruiting the straight Satan's titans Manson stockpiled rifles and guns and taught his followers how to use them in one particularly chilling interview squeaky foamy flanked by two other followers showed a journalist how to load a rifle full. She told them she was able to shoot anyone at any time because she had no fear Charlie she said had taken all the fear so that she didn't need to carry it. She wasn't alone in that feeling on July. Twenty any seven nineteen sixty nine Charlie ordered Bobby Beausoleil to murder his friend and musician Gary Henman at Henman's cabin into Panga Canyon at Charlie's behest Bobby wrote political piggy on the wall of Henman's cabin in blood he also used blood to draw a pop print in the hopes of associating the murder with the Black Panthers Charlie hoped that when news broke that the Black Panthers had murdered a white man in cold blood God racial tension would skyrocket this would finally start the race war that would burn L._A.. To the ground but much to his dismay the police were slow to assume the black panthers were involved instead they took note of Henman's missing car and collected the bloody fingerprints left all over the crime scene yet as much as police didn't immediately suspect the Black Panthers. Nobody seemed to have any leads on who committed the murderers either except one person kitty loot singer a Manson family member and bobby boasts delays girlfriend her testimony cracked the case Wide Open Kitty had no idea that bobby was involved and with a murder but by July thirtieth she hadn't seen him in days and she was getting worried. The rhetoric on spawn ranch was growing darker apocalyptic even and she no longer believed that any of them were safe that day day Kitty reported her suspicion that Charles Manson was dangerous to the police then went into hiding on her parents ranch but unfortunately the police never took her concerns about Manson seriously a. A few days later on August Sixth Bobby was spotted driving Gary Henman's missing car he was arrested and taken into the station for questioning after he was booked and fingerprinted police found the knife used to kill L. Henman in the backseat of his car. A short interrogation proved bobby a terrible liar. He was charged with murder when word of Bobby's arrest hit spun ranch Charles Manson went into panic mode he always liked bobby. He wasn't particularly bright and generally went along with whatever Charlie said perfect qualities in a follower but now charlie was worried that bobby would crack under pressure or O._B.. Tricked into confessing he might even name Charlie as a CO conspirator and Gary Henman's murder over the next two days Charlie grew increasingly agitated and walked around spawn ranch with a temper finally Catherine Brin Gypsy share the maternal figure of the family asked him if everything was okay and he snapped he dragged her outside and punched her knocking her to the ground then kicked her repeatedly the other followers watched watched in horror but new not to intervene better to let Charlie take out his aggression on someone else Charlie finally relented when Gypsy spit out blood and left her in a heap in the dirt he threatened into kill any member that tried to leave then retreated into his cabin. Charles Manson had grown wild and unpredictable the fun loving charismatic spirit that had drawn his thirty two followers to the ranch was gone that they realized was the part of Charlie inhabited by Jesus now they were seeing the Devil Charlie was unraveling. He knew he needed to create a distraction to throw the heat off. Bobby and the rest of the Manson crew helter skelter needed to start. He knew the world around him was ready to snap. It just needed a little push in a moment. The Manson family takes an infamous trip into Los Angeles Hi there if you enjoy this episode on the women of the Manson family search female criminals on spotify and give us a follow to find more episodes episodes now back to the story the morning of August Eighth Nineteen sixty-nine was dry an unusually cool considering it was the height of summer on spawned ranch. The tension was building as twenty one year old Bobby Beausoleil sat in prison for the murder of Gary Henman Charles Manson now thirty four worried that bobby would send the police after the family as the day went on. Nobody saw Charlie the rest of the family tried to avoid him knowing he was on edge then as the sun began to set twenty four year old Tex Watson approached a few of the girls and told them to get into the car they were headed into town on a mission for Charlie. Linda Ca Sabin Twenty Patricia Krenwinkel twenty and Susan Atkins twenty-one followed him without question. The girls assumed they were going on a creepy crawly. When members of the family broke into homes late at night and committed petty theft before they left the ranch techs handed the girls speed capsules? They took the pills then set off off Linda for her part was thrilled. She didn't like stealing but she was excited. That Charlie had chosen her by name for a mission. It was a sign of approval from a man she desperately wanted to please that that need for approval was what kept Manson's followers on the ranch even more so than Charlie's death threats the nineteen sixty three mill grim shock experiment studied are susceptibility to authority figures. The study was originally conducted to determine how likely it was that Nazi war criminals were truly just following orders in the experiment participants were instructed to deliver small electrical shocks to another subject at the instruction of a man in a white doctors code holding a clipboard in truth. The shocks were a ruse. No one in the study was harmed but with each shock the subject reacted as if they were truly being electrocuted you did at first the shocks were light but they became increasingly more painful causing the subject to scream in agony when the participant delivering the shocks questioned whether or not to keep going the man in the white coat Said said please continue eventually the participants believed they were delivering lethal shocks but the man and the white coat assured them d experiment requires that you continue so they kept going every single participant allow themselves to be pushed far beyond a reasonable breaking point before saying no sixty five percent of participants never stopped delivering shocks until they were told the subject was is dead Milligram wrote in his paper titled The perils of Obedience Stark Authority was pitted against the participants strongest moral imperatives against hurting others and with the participants ears ringing with the screams of the victims of authority one more often than not the extreme willingness of adults to go to almost any links on the command of authority constitutes the chief finding of the study and the fact most urgently urgently demanding explanation to the Manson Women Charlie was the ultimate authority and they would follow any of his commands most ardently after all they had sacrificed a great deal to be part of this family as the car wound through the Canyon leading to Los Angeles in the early morning hours of August ninth nineteen sixty nine. Linda felt a growing prick of excitement it had been weeks and she'd been selected for creepy crawly. She wanted to bring back something special for Charlie to prove herself texts wove through Los Angeles and up into Beverly Hills. They drove past lavish homes. Finally me pulling up in front of one. Oh Five Oh Cielo drive the home was set back from the road but they could see the warm lamplight from the living room coming through the trees techs hopped out of the car and and cut the telephone line to the House with wire-cutters then he motioned for Linda Patricia and Susan to follow him. They got out of the car unsure of what they were doing at the house. Linda didn't question why techs I had a rope and a gun with him. They walked to the back of the property scaled offense and crept through the trees bushes that Phil Yard but they stopped short at bright headlights coming up the long driveway texts motioned for the girls to get down as he stepped onto the driveway and waved down the car when it stopped he fired four bullets through the passenger side window killing the driver. Stephen Parent Linda was stunned texts forced her to steal the drivers wallet her hands shook as she reached into the dead man's pocket then techs told her to go to the back of the house and act as a lookout while well he Susan and Patricia made their way to the front of the House. When the trio reappeared in the backyard they each brandished knives? Linda watched in horror as techs cut a long slow slit into the screen screen door still in shock she stayed in the backyard as the others disappeared inside in the Living Room Twenty six year olds Sharon tate who was eight months pregnant was is hosting a small get together with friends. Tate was a stunningly beautiful up and coming Starlit who was looking forward to becoming a first time parent with her husband Roman Polanski around the coffee table were her friends Jay. Sebring a famous hairdresser in Tate's former boyfriend Vojtech for Hausky a friend of Polanski's who was staying with the couple while in town and Abigail full jer heir to the folger's coffee fortune the foursome went silent as they stared at the three young adults to adjust crashed into their living room. The intruders just stood there for a moment before text took the rope off his shoulder and ordered the foursome to huddle together in the living room he then took the rope and looped it around all four of their necks throwing the end over a beam running across the ceiling he pulled on the rope until it was taught binding the captives together. Tate folder seib ring and Frankowski stayed silent and cooperated hoping that the three lunatics would rob them and go away but that hope quickly faded when texts bellowed. You're all going to die. Sharon tate let out a blood-curdling scream that Linda could here in the backyard in the chaos text. Let the rope slacken and the four captives freed themselves and tried to scatter though they didn't get far tech Heck Shot J._C.. Bring who fell to the ground he then shot for a cow ski twice and hit him over the head with the butt of his gun thirteen times then he turned back to the wounded see bring and stabbed him to death. Both Susan Atkins meanwhile closed in on Sharon tate. She pleaded for her life but Susan showed her no mercy she stabbed Sharon Sixteen Times and briefly considered cutting the baby. Maybe out of her stomach. Patricia chased Abigail Bolger around the living room. Delivering a few blows with a knife before Abigail escaped down the hallway. Frankowski miraculously still alive crawled towards. It's the sliding glass door and got to his feet shaking. He stumbled out into the backyard where he ran into Linda who was beside herself with terror. In a later interview. Linda recalled looking into his eyes and watching the life leave them. She knew he was dying and didn't know how to stop it. Linda and Frankowski stood there both gasping for air unable to form words until he finally limped past her and collapsed in the yard seconds later techs came running out of the sliding glass door jumped on Frckoski and stabbed him again and again fifty one times in total hodel meanwhile inside the House Abigail folder made a break for it and ran into the side yard with Patricia hot on her trail folder dizzy from blood loss tripped on her dress and fell to her knees. He's folder screamed for her mother. As Patricia climbed on top of her and stabbed her twenty eight times Linda could hear Abigail Shrieking in Pain Patricia screaming and fury and the knife knife cutting into flesh over and over again it made her nauseous for a moment she thought about making a break for it running to a nearby house for help but she knew that wasn't an option the other three would find her and kill her along with anyone else she had spoken to so for lack of a better option. Linda went to the car and waited inside the house. What began as a horror show only became more gruesome? Susan Atkins dipped towel in Sharon's blood and wrote pig on the front door and death to pigs on the living room wall as tate lay dying the Manson family members rocked a rope rope around her neck and strong her up by the ceiling beam. She died of blood loss and strangulation. Her baby died fifteen minutes later. Finally Patricia Susan and tax came him tearing down the embankment. They piled into the car sweaty from exertion thrilled at the atrocities they just committed as they tore off their bloody clothes. Techs told Linda to drive he was furious. She hadn't participated in the murders. Patricia complained that she hurt her wrist. She worried she had strained it. While stabbing through Abigail folger's bones when they finally pulled back up to spawn ranch charlie came out to greet read them he asked if any of them had any remorse and without hesitation each of them including Linda responded no the next morning the tate families housekeeper walked in on the bloodbath at at one o o five. Oh ceelo drive she found Stephen Parents shot dead in his car abigail folder and Vojtech Hausky in the Yard J. C. Bring and Sharon Tate stabbed to death inside. It wasn't until the news broke on television that Linda Learn Sharon tate had been pregnant. The murders reverberated throughout Los Angeles. The only obvious motive seemed to be that the Polanski's in their friends were randomly targeted targeted for being affluent Hollywood types. The Los Angeles elite went into panic mode. Local shelters were overwhelmed by homeowners looking to adopt ferocious guard dogs calls flooded the police stations demanding demanding to know their plans to prevent another attack while the rest of Los Angeles grieved Charles Manson stewed he was proud that his followers had killed Sharon tate and her friends but found himself upset with how missy the job had been that afternoon he approached Linda Kosabe Ian and told her she would be driving them into town again that night. He was going with them this time he was going to show them how to make a clean kill. A few hours later on the night of August Tenth Nineteen Sixty Nine Linda Kosabe Ian Drove Charles Manson Patricia Krenwinkel Tex Watson Susan Susan Atkins Clem Grogan and Leslie van Houten down the long dirt road to Los Angeles they drove through the east side to the upscale Los feeless neighborhood and pulled up in front of thirty three. Oh One waverly waverly drive. Linda braced herself. Yesterday's nightmare was about to repeat in a moment the Manson family makes another attempt to ignite helter skelter now back to the story thirty four year old Charles Manson had a simple plan to ignite helter skelter and throw the heat off off Bobby Beausoleil who sat in jail awaiting a murder trial he instructed his family to murder L. as well to do and blame the crimes on the Black Panthers until eventually there would be riots on the streets. The country was a powder keg. It just needed a spark which is why on the night of August Tenth Nineteen sixty-nine. He piled into the car with twenty year old Linda Kosabe Ian Nineteen Year Old Leslie Van Houten Alton Twenty One year old Patricia Krenwinkel twenty one year old Susan Atkins Nineteen Year Old Clem Grogan and twenty four year old Tex Watson ready to kill in cold blood. They pulled up to the home of Lino Lino and Rosemary Labianca a successful grocery store chain owner and boutique owner respectively. Everyone waited in the car while Charles hopped the fence and snuck into the house he held the Law Bianca's has at knifepoint and tied their hands behind their backs. Then he came back out to the car and Directed Leslie Patricia and text to take care of them as they went inside Charlie hopped into the driver's seat and drove off with the other three accomplices inside the house. Another slaughter ensued Leslie Van Houten Stabbed Rosemary Labianca Forty One Times Patricia and tax took care of Lino leaving him with twenty six stab wounds police also found a knife and fork sticking out of his backside and the word war carved into his stomach after stabbing the lobbying youngest to death they threw pillowcases over the victims heads and wrapped a lamp court around both their necks just as they had done with the rope at the tape residents the night before again they wrote in blood all over the walls death to pigs helter skelter and the word rise then instead of fleeing the scene they took their time showering and fixing a meal in the kitchen before hitchhiking back to spawn ranch. Meanwhile Manson drove west with Susan Clem and Linda he was upset that Linda hadn't killed anyone the night before tonight she would prove her allegiance to helter skelter. Charlie drove the apartment building of the actor Linda had met on Venice beach. He gave her a knife and told her to slit the man's throat. Linda got out of the car and Susan and Clem followed her into the apartment. Building Manson drove off back to spawn ranch. Linda could hear her heart beating in her ears as she climbed the staircase her new friends apartment she didn't know what to do. She didn't want to kill anyone but she felt like she had no choice. Susan and Clem were close behind her. She could feel their bloodlust. The two of them were ready for murder. Linda wondered if they were jealous that they wouldn't be the ones to deliver for the fatal blow. As she stepped into the hallway. Her hands began to shake she felt clammy and cold time seemed to slow as she made her way to the door. She walked past her friend's apartment to the next door down and timidly she knocked an older man answered the door and stared at Linda expectantly. She swallowed hard. Her mouth felt dry. She backed up and turn to Susan and Clem explaining. That's not him wrong apartment. Susan and Clem looked genuinely disappointed. The three hitch hiked back to spawn ranch. Linda quietly wondered whether Charlie would kill her in her sleep the next morning when the news of the law bianca murders broke L._A.. was thrown into a frenzy Manson was sure this was the beginning of helter skelter. He waited it for news of riots in the streets but after a full day he was left disappointed Linda for her part feared the consequences of leaving Venice Beach unbloodied but when Manson finally came to her he told her are he had a new mission for her tomorrow she would go see Bobby Beausoleil in jail and find out what he planned to tell police. Linda agreed. She knew instantly that this was her ticket out of spawn ranch that night. She packed bag for herself and her daughter. She didn't sleep a wink. The next morning she woke up early and went to the cabin where the children were kept only to discover that they had been taken down to the freshwater her pool to play in the little waterfall nearby. It was then that Linda made the most difficult decision of her life. She knew that she couldn't grab her daughter without arousing suspicion. She was also sure that the family wouldn't hurt her child. Filed at least she prayed that was the case she grabbed her bag and keys and told Charlie she was going to see Bobby. She drove off the ranch and didn't stop until she reached New Mexico. When Linda didn't return that night it became clear that she had no intention of coming back but Manson likely felt that she would keep quiet to avoid being implicated in the murders? It certainly seems as though he was unconcerned turned the crimes of the Manson family continued as rapidly as ever a week after the first set of murders on August fifteenth the Manson family heard from an old friend Kitty loot route singer Bobby's girlfriend she wasn't getting along with her parents on their horse ranch and begged someone to come pick her up and bring her back to the family. Charlie was more than glad to bring her back into the fold especially with Bobby's arrest. He wanted his family as close as he could keep them the very next day August sixteenth spine ranch was raided by police not in connection to the murders but rather for car theft left several family members were arrested including kitty and the children on spun ranch were taken into state custody as a result Linda. Kosabe Ian was reunited with her daughter Tanya. She returned to L._A.. To grab her daughter than immediately took her back into hiding in New Mexico. Only police knew where Linda would be staying. The Manson family was soon released from police custody on technicality but after the close call they decided to fleece bond ranch they moved to death valley to a cabin called Barker Ranch Barker ranch was a rustic barebones cabin in the middle of nowhere belonging to the grandmother of one of the family only members it should have been the perfect place to hide out but even in that remote location Manson and his family managed to draw attention to themselves for one thing they were broke and had to resort to petty crime to make ends meat for another they made nonsensical drug-fuelled decisions that gave them away as troublemakers as one example they set fire to some equipment owned by National Park Service Rangers for no discernible reason the locals easily figured out that the wave of petty theft was connected to the cult that had moved in down the road and reported them to police but the true nail in the coffin came in early October of nineteen sixty nine after months of pleading Kitty finally convinced Susan to tell her why Bobby was being held by the police. Susan revealed everything about what had happened at Henman's cabin that summer Susan looked proud as she recounted the murder even laughing at parts it was that terrifying pride that pushed kitty over the edge on October ninth nineteen sixty nine kitty fled Barker ranch and went straight to the police over the next three days Barker ranch was rated multiple times in connection with stolen property leading to multiple arrests. Susan Atkins was also arrested in connection with the murder for of Gary Henman Amazingly. None of the raids led police to connect the Manson family to the tate labianca murders instead. It was Susan Atkins that gave the family away a few weeks after her arrest best. She bragged to her cellmate about killing Sharon tate. The cellmate routed atkins out without a second thought from there the rest of the family fell like dominoes by this point. Most of the family was already already in cuffs in connection to theft and the machinery fires. The police already had all their suspects in custody. They just needed to connect them to the murders. Thanks to fingerprints lifted from the scene. Leslie Techs and Patricia Tricia were charged with the law Bianca and tape murders in addition. Susan Atkins agreed to testify against the family members as a way of avoiding the death penalty. She later recanted her statement but it still gave gave police the necessary ammunition to round up the remaining suspects Clem Grogan Linda Kosabe Ian and Charles Manson himself Linda Kosabe IAN quickly agreed to testify against the family in exchange for community police were happy to work with her after realizing that she had tried to stay uninvolved with the murders and fled the family as soon as she was able would follow next was nothing short of a media circus August Charles Manson proved to be a charismatic engaging villain. The country watched in horror as his story unfolded the trials began on June fifteenth nineteen seventy and continued until late March march of the following year Manson was originally allowed to act as his own attorney although his increasingly defiant behavior quickly lost him that privilege throughout the trial he left the country spellbound as he went on Rant rant after nonsensical rant about the police his own divinity race wars murder love fear and death in fact Manson proved so colorful and captivating that he upstaged stage the victims slowly the press stopped calling them the tate and Law Bianca murders and instead referred to the crimes as the Manson family murders the unincorporated family members gathered outside the courthouse every day in support of their leader they sang songs and repeated nonsensical rhetoric. That sounded like it had come straight from Charlie's mouth reporters relaid this to Charlie asking if he'd brainwashed his followers I he replied quote these children that come at you with knives there your children you taught them. I didn't teach them. I just tried to help them stand up but in fact the speeches the followers repeated were well rehearsed squeaky foamy visited Manson in prison every evening to get the script for the next day then dutifully delivered to the news reporters who all knew her by name squeaky became an overnight celebrity when Manson shaved his head in prison several family members followed suit one day he carved an ex into his forehead during the trial it was meant to symbolize allies having X. himself out of society. Several of his followers did the same they told reporters they had deleted themselves from mainstream culture. They were completely free. A word that was often associated did with the hippy movement. The Manson family is widely credited with killing Hippie counterculture even though they never considered themselves hippies their drug use and flower child aesthetic was enough for the mainstream to make the connection the friction inside and outside of the courtroom each day mirrored the violent demonstrations against the Vietnam War and the Kent State shootings that took place just days before Manson's trial began. The spirit of the sixties was dead a final victim of Charles Manson on April Nineteenth Nineteen seventy-one Manson was sentenced to death Patricia Techs. Susan Susan and Leslie were all sentenced to death as well but their sentences were commuted to life in prison the next year Linda Kosabe Ian is the only person present for the murders who served no jail time she was only with the Manson Manson family for four weeks and has spent the past fifty years in hiding Bobby Beausoleil is still in prison for Gary Henman's murder he has been denied parole eighteen times with little hope of ever being released SD Lynette squeaky from me was uninvolved in the Manson family murders but was a constant fixture outside the courthouse during the trials. She made headlines again in nineteen seventy five for the attempted assassination of President President Gerald Ford. She spent the next thirty four years in prison. After being paroled she moved to upstate New York where folks around her apartment complex say she is a model neighbor squeaky says she she has a boyfriend but will always love Charles Manson who died in two thousand seventeen at the age of eighty three the Manson family murders continue to reverberate and not just because of the grotesque task scenes left in their wake. They marked a moment in American culture. A microcosm of the political tension felt in every corner of the country. The loss of life was senseless. The violence was unfathomable. The tight-knit cult was nothing short of terrifying and yet like so many displays of human depravity. We find ourselves unable to look away ed thanks again for tuning into our female criminals summer of sixty-nine special. 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201: Do We Consider Los Angeles Home? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 201

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201: Do We Consider Los Angeles Home? | Ear Biscuits Ep. 201

"Ramble before we get started we wanna let you know if you're going to be at vid con in los angeles in july you should stop by our booth the mystical booth number seven one seven we're gonna have some exclusive thing you could only get at this booth 'em there's gonna be some mythical crew that you may recognize that is manning and woman in the booth throughout the week interesting bleak creek novel photo ops end if you can't be there hey just follow us on instagram the grim will share some stories to make you feel like you're part of the action in hey come see us for our fall tour dates were gonna be in houston texas on september fourth and then the dates after that were gonna be in new orleans nor liens oh it's kind of ambivalent how i wanna do yeah you did make it all incision you gotta make a decision birmingham alabama jacksonville florida tampa florida albuquerque new mexico phoenix arizona sacramento california in down in valley center california rounding grounded out at november twenty third got a wreck in lincoln live dot com to check out our stuff now let's do a biscuit welcomed biscuits time regret in dime link this week at the roundtable adema lighting were asking the question do we consider loss angeles home what what what makes the house a home what makes a state or city or a new place you didn't always call home a home in do we do that the loss angeles at this point and i do wanna just go ahead and apologize this week i'm gonna be the guy who a apologizes were being sick i i don't even know if my voice sounds different i can't i to me i sound like i'm inside of like a barrel well first of all let me say that if this is just you seen it you're gonna be apologizing for all sorts of things over this this episode then i'm all for that i'm a i'm only allow judging for if the sound of being sick see now you're saying you're not gonna apologize for anything out if i should do something this apology worthy i will apologize good but secondly you sound like yeah you do sound like you're in a barrel i only in my own ears i feel like listen to myself now that i'm not completely out of the barrel because i'm not completely over the thing that apparently i transferred to you i don't believe that you gave it to me what what how did it start sore throat yeah but as we discussed on the previous airbus get all of my cold start with a sore throat what is it right now it's it's a it's moved to just stuffiness cns headache a would have a headache if we hadn't taken ibuprofen yeah okay all right but what i'm saying is that i it's not like i'm gonna take credit you haven't been contagious forever you had not been contagious for what i would consider they're like at least a week before i got before my symptoms showed up i mean again i don't know how colds work i've had this three weeks maybe what you had a residual sinus infection which i don't think i could catch a sinus infection catch the initial initial viral cold situation which maybe maybe it was on something maybe you put it on something in for some reason it lives and then i ended up licking something by accident well i had been randomly licking objects and you're in the office well i told christie they you are coming in this year just coming in for this this afternoon not this morning because i apparently gave you a coach he's like wait i'm not seeking give it to me and we sleep together and i didn't give it to my wife and we sleep together a my kids who are most likely especially my i mean if we're gonna if you're gonna get something you're probably gonna get it from me 'cause i mean this this stuff we end up will hurt each other were trapped yeah were yelling at each other right now i think were in there saying raja nichols yeah being fired at you're orifices right now out of mile races were trapped in the same room and mind more more on now because i obviously i share a bed in a in a bedroom with my wife but i have like a i got a special air purifier and they're like constantly catching things we've got a weird one that like we won like they are wives got from ellen remember that yeah we have a weird one from ellen in her office christie jesse went to a taping of allen in it was one of those days they she gave everyone in the audience some weird air purifier and we've got it and it's always on but i do not believe that it works out never been schnitt filters never been changed but jesse always faces away from you and sleeping because there's a distance between the two of you know actionable you know what this is interesting because you know there's 'cause you even crispy shared a very very small like single bit of double double bad but that to me a person of my side that's a single bed that's a twin bed if i get into a double bed with someone i am making full contact with them my leg it could also cause i sleep on my side so i take up a lot of lateral space 'em i do not like to be i'm such a light sleeper i do not like to be touched while sleeping 'cause i will wake up and so but jesse is a deep sleeper and she's also you know like a super cuddle monster into my so she is usually we wake up in i'm on the edge of my bed and she's in my spot like she is move me all the way to the side that's usually how we wake up but also she is she's like you know and i think you've done this you accidentally struck you're while you're at while sleeping by like mcginn moving around on a weekly basis i wake myself up realizing that in flailing my right arm i've either struck her or almost drucker in the thing is is that i am probably if there's a spectrum of light accident avoidance like how much accident avoidance do you have and i don't know if it's just something about being really big and feeling like i got i take up a lot of space i believe that i am on me complete upper end almost off the spectrum of accident avoidance like i hate the actively but my head in the things you sleep like you're mummified i don't step on people's feet like a lot of people just that will be my wife will step on your foot if you if you spend more than four hours worth her she will step on you this is what she i think she's just little in short and so she she feels like she can't do any harm transfers to the bedroom in she's never really clocked me in the face but i have this phobia of her elbowing me are punching me in the nose and so subconsciously i sleep on my side facing away from her you like flinching but now i've got this cold in i have a deviated septum i've given you all kinds of information taken do what you will with my left nostril is much more has a lot more airflow float in my right now when i get sick my right nostril is almost useless so but in order to lay on my if i when you when you lay on one side and then the drain his goes down in one of the nostrils opens up when you're sick yeah that's facing her 'cause i sleep on the right side of the bed so now i am completely in while i'm sick i'm sleeping on my right side completely exposed i've been thinking about wearing like a hockey mask but i think the hockey mask would work against like the the the airflow slow so i'm really i really don't know what to do basically maybe a catcher's mask catcher's mask let's a lot of air air yeah like a lacrosse helmet or that yeah something like that football helmet would allow but quite a bit of breezes well like kickers helmet the just has just had the old school tigres where it's just one they don't do that anymore if i was a kid and i got a full thing if i was a kicker i'd have the one thing but kickers tackle now kickers gotta tackle gotta do it all it's very competitive this the world's a competitive place now because i dunno because of the internet because of the internet well i it i mean i thought i had to resort to the netti pot i was like oh i'm going back to this day by hand laid on it before i many years ago and then there was the thing where it's like oh don't using netti pot because you get like a brain eating amoeba from the tap and now when you when you buy one got this big warning on the eu's distilled water i don't use distilled water used tap yeah because it's just a guy a hassle apprised of all people that you're using tap rolling it from one nostril boy that feels weird i did it right before i came oh so if i if i start go going cross eyed you know i gotta be amoeba just be ready for it i the reason i so i do have distilled water and i had a move that something come out when you did it you just the little not not not a lot of stuff i love it i mean i had the full blown sinus infection i had colors coming out of my nose the i dunno you could paint a mural with brown stuff coming up i mean they were bright red action oh well that's that's blood yeah was bleeding and then there was i don't wanna talk about this anymore like sometimes i put more spinach my breakfast smoothie and it goes a little greener in its you need his hip around i don't think i don't think spinach you know i think chloroform or whatever it is that makes a little green action makes its way into you're not but i i used the tap water because those instances of the people getting the brain eating amoeba is like it's so unlikely that's ot a jogger distilled water no you you know what you should use it is mine jug homey it also depends on your water supply we let the same water supply no no i but i don't think i i think the most of those instances have i don't think any of them have been in southern california also i have a filtration system built in my house in europe listen that him and i have a youth v light that would listen to other u v ball this this is the previous homeowner they installed all this and i just and i'm just making you got central backing a yes but we took that out don't need that it was very old and non functioning yeah the the guy who is the family who had this house before was all they're all about the central back the yeah well you know it gives dated but listen about that netti pot if you've never used one let me tell you you throw that thing on one nostril and then you start leaning to the side in first of all if you try to follow the instructions on the back the thing it's like this weird stuff like rotate you're shin but don't move you're chin out beyond the netti pot is doesn't make you know it's intuitive just do it until it feels right do until it feels right but if it feels wrong you could feel very wrong in even when it feels right it feels wrong because you're filling up that until you give you my recommendation is to watch a youtube video but but i mean what's the worst that can happen inside the brain eating amoeba the first time you're doing water going down your throat you feel you're you feel like you might be drowning yourself the first time you do yeah then after that it once you adjust and get the angles right 'cause i i made my 'em i made lock to shepherd wouldn't do it made him do it in grabbed him by head full here and just seven netti pot in his nostrils they just he just tell me this has like dude you gotta get where you gotta get where you could be in control of this and it's weird it's a weird feeling it's not the feeling goes away it's just the you learn to expect but i mean the first time you do it ended up in many years so it was very fresh to me it was like i felt like i was filling up my whole brain cavity with salt water because he makes sense that salt water solutions nothing's coming out the other side i'm like and it's just half the pots going up my nose those nothing coming out and i'm like where's this going to block my ear you're blocked in i started hearing a weird thing in my ear it sorted burn a little bit but it felt like it's all connected felt like my eyes will go like flowed out in it it's just yeah you feel like you're drowning yourself nostra's all that happened to me when i'm super stuff is it just i feel like trying to go into the other side and then just going down the back of my throat and become my mouth so it's like pushing up against all the stuff that's in there but it can't get through but if a glock comes out that is that that satisfied that's what you want i think i became dependent on it last time i got sick there there are people who are doing it morning middle middle of the day and night they got a new one this power have you seen the commercial for the one day you you don't even bender you don't bend sideways you just put you put it on your face in it powers the water in one side in this out the other side not necessary it literally takes it out and puts it into like a reservoir she just like it's like putting on a mass while you drink it later could save it and you could see the blood you can see all the nasty things and know exactly what happened instead of having a look in the sink oh gosh it's a weird feeling we're talking about getting your whole head filled up sailing solution anyway feel like i'm still gotta shake it out i hope i don't have hope what happened to you doesn't happen to me i am i don't think you could take it i'm doing the netti pot a head of time so that i don't wait until i get the sinus infections do the night by however some people say that the netti pot ashley contributes sinus infections because it gets rid of the mucus in the mucus is what's doing the job just don't mess with the lead at don't try to treat it just let it but it just makes me feel good okay in just a living on the edge living right on the edge of a brain eating amoeba makes me feel alive everytime i wake up the next day after doing doing the netti pot unlike another day and made it sound like an anti vaxxers and the other day i made it i know i'm not right about this i'm glad i made another day shutdown seem right about it shut up all the anti vaxxers listening i'm you're you're out there we know you're out there way out there just builds a big fan a okay so we're gonna answer were gonna answer some questions that you asked us but 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that 'em so will do the home question second yeah we're gonna start with a question comes from my wife a really yeah my wife has a a rather a vibrant twitter account really loss angeles a little slow down on you know speaking of seeing las angeles plus is home she decided to call her you get lost angeles link you get you get it yes ma'am 'em but she did she didn't respond to us by asking the question this is just something she tweeted you're common deering for our conversation which is fine but i don't want to insinuate the cheese shamelessly responding to our prop she did ask me this question is well though i mean so technically i feel i feel fine about common during it you may have seen a while back you is already a couple of weeks more recording this but barbra streisand she had a dog named samantha that was like a poodle kind of looks like barbara but harrier barber you're yeah not kind of looks like partly incidentally barbara is my dog is not named after barbra streisand she's named after barbara mandrell but 'em barbra streisand has cloned her dog at least three times because three of them are currently alive and she posted this picture you may have seen it where she took the three clone dogs to the grave site of the original dog and they were in the they don't family photo did a family photo she put the three dogs on top of the grave okay in as you might guess they all look the same and then there's a picture of the original dog the identical yet you original dog has a picture like a color picture of itself on the grave so you got basically for identical dogs in the picture which costs more a full color rendering gravestone of a dog or a clone dog i think a clone dog considering that she claims that paid fifty thousand dollars for it had been done orlando the news claims that's what it was in just a few years ago it was a hundred thousand dollars and get it done that's getting cheaper prices coming down get a in so by by by jesse now have seriously discuss the question before and i'm really surprised that as attached as you are jade and how 'perfect you think she is why you haven't talked about this now i'm not gonna put her question is happy sunday is cloning you're dog sweeter creepy she she made a poll she made a poll over eleven hundred people responded to my wife's poll the two the two options where the sweetest with some dog and harden when's the last time she responded to europe poll well now i'm sick at least 'em in any other option was that mess is creepy seventy six percent of people as you might guess at that messes creepy twenty four percent said the sweetest well i mean once she set up the whole barbra streisand does a photo shoot at the graveyard with three dogs dancing on their you know their forefather for mother that obviously seems creepy well yeah but so let's is a national detach from that let's forget that we know about that and let's try that analyzes question fresh now a the one hundred and ninety ninth episode so a couple of back i mean we did we had a truncated conversation about are dogs and what we would do if they died monday so thank you for for your feedback being part of that conversation hashtag you're biscuit but we didn't we didn't talk about at least in my recollection we didn't talk about cloning of dog says option not in that i think we may have thought about it at some point but not in that episode gives me pause i mean i think about it 'cause like jade i wonder if the personality would be exactly the same i mean it's genetics plus environment environment would be exactly the same so i guess so i mean i'm sure there's there's mutations it takes place anytime there's a clone i might do it just to find out that just to see if if it's it let's just assume that the prices reasonable i'm not gonna pay fifty thousand dollars have this done but by the time barbers in the market for cloning maybe it'll be twentyfive maybe it'll be ten in would you pay ten thousand dollars to save jade's life like if there is a lifestyle life altering lot equal pay thousands of dollars if their dog gets in trouble trouble now we adopted are dog so we don't pay anything for a while but likely they do still charge while they today charging adoption fee a donation fee stuff going a but i mean a couple of hundred bucks whatever but if you had like okay jade has this life threatening condition you have to get surgery i i assume that you pay thousands of dollars for that surgery be done i do that for barbara i mean i i'm in a position financially they were i can't afford it doing it's not irresponsible decision that helps me make the that makes a decision easier if you're all of a sudden gonna be choosing between feeding your children are saving your dog that point okay it's a different story i mean another factor is if i mean we were talking about the surgery like water the chances of success versus the quality of life afterward 'cause we talked about before an how old is jade at the time versus their life yeah of course although things 'em how man i i mean i would like in the overlap idea which i've i've since pulled back from but now i'm going back in with overlapping within identical but that's i would not be ten grand street was fifty fifty right now i wouldn't pay ten okay i mean all right let's take finance is off the table is it creepy or not it's free you could do it for free of course it's creepy because cloning is creepy and if we don't have a slightly creeped out response the coning they were probably not in touch with ourselves it's weird right it's weird to be able to clone something or someone 'em scott nitra but the process is not that unlike twins you know genetically which twins are creepy on their own i do admit that definitely but a i think i would do it the the main reason i wouldn't do it the main reason i would not clone barbara a is because of the judgment that i would receive and i just feel like i'd have to defend myself and i don't really have a defense of them i just really liked barbara yeah i don't think i don't know what i'm gonna get next time i get a dog i think it should be secret but if it got out it should be on judged but there is also the sort of the lottery a highest jade living so long well she's she's seventy five and he's amazing i've been telling you but i do like the idea first of all okay i see a puppy again maybe here's a reason not declaring the dog from from an ethical standpoint because dogs need to be adopted right so by climbing a dog you're bringing another dog into the world as opposed to adopting another dog so i could adopt another dog and he's a home next time just like we did with barbara yeah it is a i and i think so so there's a reason to not do something to pair with that which is it is a relationship i mean are dogs are family members their dog family members but they are family members in it's so it's a relationship the than with a new you just don't wanna have you don't wanna fabricate just for your convenience a relationship with with a clone it just seems like you're just trying to care perpetuate something that in deny something that is a part of life which is death an an opportunity to forge a new relationship with all of its challenges a enjoys i mean it's yeah boarded the new dog's bitch figuratively then yeah that yeah that's that's the risk you know like we we got somebody working on her house it's right now the contractor who of course bobber loves because he is a person in the way he described her the other day this this maybe we're just have a relationship with the contractor in this way but he was talking about barbecue is like she is pure love she's she's pure love like that's what barbara barbara is just like again you're not gonna get more pure love out of another dog so that is that that the the risk is i feel like a is a guarantee that was with your neck dog you're not gonna won't get that much love right and so i mean i'm just like okay well this is such a good thing we got such a good thing going and willing to take people's you know it feels weird ways glances at me but it's not like she's gonna wear a doggy shirt that says i'm a clone nazi original that would be funny though i mean what about what about corning people yeah let's let's corner wives if they if they pass untimely i mean i think that's why it's so weird it's like you'd never do that you never do that to a human unnatural there's other reasons why we wouldn't corner was because they would be a baby yes he's gotta what that's what i was trying to tell you about is gonna be awkward for quite some time that's why i was trying to tell you about twilight that i didn't get to what is it that wolf guy he he made a connection with the baby and then waiting for the grow old and then they became they hooked up that that's creepy with the the the vampires girl baby but okay don't think of it in the context of a relationship as much in twilight i go back to it that's creepy creepy but let's just say there's a okay there's a great mind like a person who does incredible things right i dunno name someone who we consider to be incredible that does incredible thing that ryan's toy review okay exactly somebody who has just impacted culture for the better were like well when ryan from ryan's toy review dies what do we do we need we need him and get an end when he's a baby it's like you don't have to wait long for him do his thing again that's right i like within three years basic instant gratification almost firm a clone there'll be the channel would be dark for just a couple of years right you for that time you could do videos that are just like retrospective like this is what you're gonna get don't forget toddler toys negative they start much earlier they may put him as a newborn newborn toys are there channels where parents just get their newborns the review products just throw a rattle in the cage and see what happens whether should be should be i mean i think you could exploit you're child throw a very early age if you want to did i answer you're cool i don't think you have to wait until they're five 'em without ryan's toy review thought experiment did we reach a conclusion i well first of all can human cloning be done i don't think human cloning can be done as effectively in reliably or is it just is it just unethical at this point but could they look they really do it in like they wouldn't be screwed up in some weird way like what where's the science of cloning these days a there was the there is experiment i think it wasn't china and a few months back where they were doing genetic mutations for medical purposes but it wasn't creating a clone using crisper on people were gene edited kid gene editing kids and there wasn't that happening there's genetic side effects you you know you you try to try to get rid of this one thing but then other things pop up well okay so what if they could create a clone for you that didn't have a head of a dog knows of yourself okay they're like okay were growing this clone of you that doesn't have a head in were gonna harvest the organs if as needed you need heart well we got you're hard over here ethical in this baby in this space he visited you're gonna get a baby heart yet the wave of the baby get old enough the headless babies gotta grow up reviews and i haven't really rattled i have a few spent a lotta time standing about the ethics the of this but it does sound like a can of worms that we probably don't want open we don't need more people we've got too many we don't need a clone all orange cones by the way it that is true isn't it are they sexual they all look the same worms sexually i'm sure some some worms are a i i would just messing with you let's ask the next question 'em jennifer horn asks how do you know when a new place you moved to finally get that feeling of home quote in quotes one of the types of things you experience that make it a home a you both had moved far from north carolina which you have many fond memories of but do you still consider you're one true home or do you get the same feelings about californian now as you did with north kevin line just as a side note i found myself watching our 'em mythical road trip videos i i can't remember exactly i think in preparation for vid con in a potential bit about being on you to for over a decade 'cause that's how long vic has been going on to ten years in the tenth year 'em i ended up going on a rabbit trail of her own videos after looking at other people's but i watched i if you don't know are mythical road trip when we moved out the lapd 'em we had fan meet ups at rest stops all across america america and we documented the whole thing and we made all types of videos some on the rent link channel some on what ultimately became the good mythical morning channel who's just are second block channel at the time but we captured conversations about are expect expectations of moving the lapd unlike are hopes and fears were kind of peppered in the story of like meeting mythical beast and seen parts of the country having never driven across the country mhm who's a sweet time in our friendship brett i'm glad we documented that end some people commented i'm glad i found this is edited really well we didn't edit chris mckay loaded shout out to him but anyway 'em brought back memories of that moment when we're yeah it was a big deal the finally approved both of are families throw all of our possessions actually we we through all the positions that we needed for moving to furnish department so we shared a u haul and then we told my mini van mhm and then you and i drove out in are families flew out once we got to las angeles but 'em i mean that was a huge milestone in yeah as we did discuss in a number of those videos just didn't know we you know we were coming out the make commercial kings four i fc not knowing if it would last more than a season and it didn't and anyway a if you wanna watch those you can still out there that's what i nitra but but i think that i know that i was probably more than they need all four of the four of us probably more than anyone i i was of a mind that were not going back like were going out there i don't care how this goes were staying you know what i'm saying like that my mentality was were gonna go out there and even a commercial kings doesn't work we're gonna we're gonna do something reduced we we need to make it happen out there i would just kind of committed to it i think jesse was in a different way committed to that happening a not hey this is where you're career is gonna take off but more i'm just ready for something new you ready for a change we living in the house that was across the street from the house that she came home from the hospital it really you know what i'm saying like it like her parents house was across the street from her house and she went from living with their parents to being in college for just a couple of years until we got married a and we were in chapel hill but then quickly got back down if you say so i think she would just ready for a change that's their personality so but now i think there's a bit more trepidation on the near side associated with unknowns of uprooting a are entire family moving i'm out there i mean land lando was in a crib you ever it was too i was talking him about this other day i was like you don't really like you're you're whole life has been in california lando doesn't even more so what lando is like a year he remember he remembers i maybe not i don't think lando remember anything because shepherd was to end he doesn't remember any no right very very sketchy stuff but there is good lower then they would go back we will go back like we were out every six months then we went back for a few weeks before we came back out again get the rest of our stuff but i you know i would say that where it stands now a we moved in twenty eleven it's twenty nineteen so we just passed or eighth year were in the so were inter ninth year being here interestingly were were were a when you listen to this will will will be i think will be about to go back we're gonna go back to to boost creek to create something that you'll find out about later but will smith now you will spend some time a it'll be it's gonna be related to the book a really great because you know bleak reeks based on where we treat loosely tight more tightly in some ways than others but we're gonna go back not just to where we we last lead but you are home where we grew up and whenever i get to north carolina especially when you go during the summer and you're immediately hit with this blanket of damp mcgee air i don't think i'll ever lose they sensation that i am home that i'm like really really like this is home this is where i grew up this is where i this is where it became a man and the roots man you tap into the roots it's like it's like getting back on a bicycle you just you just kinda it just feels right and i don't think they'll ever be a time where i'm driving around loss angeles or hiking in one of these you know very desert he landscapes around town when you go into nature where i don't feel a little bit like a visitor and i just don't think i'll ever get over that because if you if you moved around a bunch of different places drawing up which we didn't we basically invoice creek for are entire adolescence i don't think you can lose that so in my deepest core i definitely still considered north carolina home and i still feel like a visitor here and i don't think that i can overcome that but i have different feelings just on a in a general way i i get into that after we hear your perspective well i i agree one hundred percent relate to tapping back into the the to my roots when i go back home like like i said it is going back home this is this is where i'm from this is where my people still are you know family old friends land marks you know you you you you leave the airport and you drive back home when i got grandparents still living in the same place they've always been in i got mom you know in in the same county that we all we that when when we when i grew up with saint place you know so it's like you travel those seem roads and you access all of those memories and nothing's gonna ever take that away and nothing's gonna ever replace that but i do consider in a different upfront inflection of the word home maybe slightly different definition but i do have a feeling that a loss angeles is my home now it is legitimately home for for me and i think the question is what how long did it take to get to that point i think a lot of it has to do is you know my kids absolutely consider this place whole you know this is the place where they built all all of those memories in you know lincoln is hard pressed at you know at fourteen to have a ton of memories back in north carolina lando has none in so lily who had to make more of a transition but i mean it was she was still young enough that it wasn't that big of a deal i mean she had a she had a best friend she still in contact with she has like a bass north carolina friends and lizzy who is in the pit my stroller video yeah she probably had the funniest voice over whether it's you know who's the site you know suddenly for voiceovers but anyway i think are kids considering this home goes a long way towards me considering home 'cause we were making are lived here in everyday is more memories that you're you know you're putting your roots down but i also think it has to do with settling in physically to a house that you know when we first moved out that first six months we were living in los feeless which is super cool in my opinion neighborhood 'em got these hills where i think katy perry lives up there in those in the hills and then you go down to the to the shops and you got the super hey let's go let's go a little d'armes let's go little tom's and get some give us some a talion food in but we stayed in this furnished apartment we knew we knew nothing about where we should be had no it was no was not decorated in very cold the way it was decorated like super modern gray be under lit like it was a you know it just wasn't how i want things to be like a bright why would look i would go in the bathroom mirror antique per right environment i couldn't see myself and a free meter yeah i had the by a mirror with the with the ida by a vanity mirror like one of those makeup mirrors in order to be able to see my face in my own bathroom it just didn't you know me i really like thinks it'd be like i'm gonna be so that was really that wasn't home i mean it was the furnish department let me go back and get are stuff we come back out we moved into a house we had a yard but i didn't really know anybody in the neighborhood in a couple of neighbors that we met it was kinda like i feel like you don't like me where there the weird vibe in the place where we were gonna end we were it was from a financial standpoint things there's tenuous for on a number of years there as we're moving into like pain painful amount of rent at these place if you are in the greater los angeles area which is a family a you better you better get it together very quickly yeah because you will be run out of town down a just because it's so expensive relive here yeah so there is there is definitely a year or two there was like i don't know if this is sustainable the furnished apartment that we rented cost over three times my mortgage back in few a few it cost over because seven times my mortgage i think you're just bad at math dude no i i bought my house much later in my house is back homeless yeah i i i got i got a really good deal on my on my house but yeah the rent for an apartment that was smaller than the house that i own but it was furnished seven times my mortgage yeah that's painful it never rent i mean i think you know we're fortunate enough to purchase homes in i think psychologically yet you really put in you roots down when you're like saying i'm buying this place place and 'em yeah it's naturally rat now so i you know i think that you would with your personality like getting getting everything the way that you want it yeah is a big part of your personality malady less of mine so i don't like when i thought about this question i didn't think it all about physical home physical homes and where were at and being and where we were before and where we're at now it was much more just the the vibe that i get from the city in like hey you know what i'm saying like it and i do remember aj 'em a very specific point in actually was pretty early on it definitely wasn't while we were in los feeless after that end a where i'd flown back home and we still say flying home to north carolina that's what we say what we were probably always say that regardless of how long were here but remember arriving back at l e x which is not the most if not the most welcoming airport like when you get the rt you you're like do people actually fly out of here yeah is it shut down because there's not literally a crowd of people that you have to work your way through in a million people honking their horns is soon as you get to where you're gonna get picked up but anyway every time you get the l e x regardless of what time of day regardless of what day of the year circus circus it's absolutely bonkers how much traffic there is but i remember getting back to a l e x in walking out and waiting for a ride home in feeling like i wasn't i wasn't like trying the field as it just hit me i was like i'm home this feels like home because can you can use linked into something i feel like i am now returning to a basically they 'em the momentum has shifted there's a there there is say what do you call it when you get enough tipping point tipping point but you're like there's enough momentum what is that word i'm looking for a nurse show yeah i were not saying the word i dunno i can't remember this point but basically critical mass there's enough critical mass in los angeles and now i think it does have to do with like familiarity in like comfort in so that does have to do with the physical home or whatever but it just felt like the critical mass of where i kind of considered my home to be had moved had come with me on the plane back to a two loss angeles and now i was stepping into this environment that i felt like i knew new understood in could thrive in well i i know what i'm saying i know a couple of specific factors at least for me so try these on for size i mean in general sense of community like actually having friends people like if something goes wrong you're impulses the call somebody who also lives in los angeles to like get help or vice as opposed to calling someone where you use tillis you know i think that's a telltale sign king who do you call in need end and then do you have friends are you making connections are you are you're a kid in you know a partner doing the same thing i think also it's like at the moment you still hungry and you're sitting on your couch couch in places come to mind that you could just get in there are not ibo jingles yeah right you start thinking of plays you know what i'm gonna go and get so and so i'm gonna get a get a sub from this place i'm gonna get a i'm i'm gonna get mediterranean food from this place not the eight other places you know 'cause i've tried all i've got my favorites i know where i'm gonna get the cheeseburger in i'm a goto the pizza place in when i go in there they're the guy's gonna know me by name i mean that's really home right when the pizza guy knows you i think another point is we went to the pizza place they were closing any said oh and we're like i'm sorry you're closing and then he's like you know what place your order all delivered to your house and he knew he was he knows where houses yeah that's a good side yeah i i'm home baby when when i can almost telepathically order pizza i'm home in trust me i think that's probably christie's verse measure of home is do i know my pizza guy i think being that navigating years for her to being being able to navigate the landscape and not need gps gps i think is now if you're living any city you're probably always have you're gps on because you never know when you're gonna run into like variables traffic accidents in stuff like that but but you won't get lost if you're phone dies yet 'cause they're l a's huge an i i remember you know we used to come out here before we were doing commercial kings we would come out here of course we did that amazing hit show and the cw in two thousand seven call it online nation so good it got cancelled after four episodes 'em but we would come out to work on that and then they come out and pitch other things we were trying to make things happen here in we would stay at the beverly garland hotel on a vine what is that on a violent violent i just past it the other night where you're on ventura 'cause we went to eat with some people in studio city were on ventura took a left on vineland in you know you go past that little shopping center they had the city walk that we would walk to the city walk down from the beverly garland yeah are world was that block rock that block and then if we were to drive it was we take the one oh one through the mountains down to somewhere in hollywood to do something have a meeting maybe go all the way the beverly hills yeah so that was that was it in that's just just very small sliver of loss angeles and then once you kinda like oh i can draw the the for me i know this is like jesse couldn't do this because she doesn't she i in noy her to the point that i try to understand the geography fee in my mind yeah a but for me that was a big point like 'cause then north carolina like we were when we were in north carolina least up until the end like there was we were new gps like you didn't know you did new gps anywhere so you could get everywhere you need it go by just you just knew the environment and you kind of always knew where you were so when that happened to me in los angeles is starting to feel like home in that was a big moment you know in britain and been liberated us for half a year he's traveling a lot with e you opportunities that he has for making music but i mean our our home is this home base but a i don't think i'm going on a limb here and say like he doesn't consider loss angeles home after six months me also living with you living in my living a very small yeah area in a you know we ask him i'll ask him so what you know where'd you go today and he's like i got leonard jack in the box and then like the next day i'm like what would you would you go today's like i went back to jack in britain they there's other places besides jack in the box you should shoot you know you gotta branch out so he's starting to do that but he also pointed out a there's a lot of different menu items a jacket about it it's like seven restaurants in one they got eggrolls frigging jack and yet they got tacos it's it's crazy it's crazy he can't be boxed in by jack is out of the box man he is out of the box and blackout on about missed an opportunity there for the name but you know it's it takes time and you gotta meet people and you gotta you can't eat at the jack in the box if you're gonna make it if you're gonna if you're gonna make this house a home yeah eggrolls on bad there though i'm a fan but i might be only one in my family that's fan i don't need to be yeah i don't need i don't need any fast food on a regular basis so it's by all right a let's move on so so we both think we both feel like his home oh yeah a in a lot of people ask do you ever think you're gonna go back to north carolina in there is no like default okay when we've done are time here in los angeles yes the default is is that were gonna go back north carolina at this point there there is no there's nothing like that in play it's like this is where we're at this is where labs have been establishes where like links at a kid's life had been established so i don't see that happening but yeah who knows what will happen m i love north carolina i love living here in i don't i miss things about it but i don't miss living there given the the home that we made here very happy i agree russell alert avenue what's your favorite song to sing in the shower favorite song to sing in the shower i listen i don't sing in the shower because i got i got too much on my mind every single thing that i'm doing perfectly which i've spoken about at links and under are forming episode of good mythical morning i haven't thought about that you're routine is so detailed the you don't have time for singing listen if you watch that it's like britain except the part about pain on your feet it stopped snorting in the microphone teams on day you're knows away dude i did a second ago but then that one which is out of nowhere instead of doing right into the microphone so yeah don't have a filter that might sound like you gotta fill hakim deliver that right oh yeah hey sunday that thing okay turn away from the mike smith britain sautes on day in a jack in the box online he did seem somewhere he came home and he told me he's like chocolate rank as yet hey man he's still around still in there like coming home yeah well i say before you snorted all over myself oh except opinion on the feet part which i would suggest that you do in the shower pretty much everything else that i talked about in that episode i legitimately do in every time i take a shower there is a the majority of my brain power is directed towards a just what's the verb i'm looking for doing i'll just say doing my sister i understand why are just like here's the thing though leisure fleecing style fan that's the sad fact i think we have we have pinpointed the weakness in your system and i think this is a metaphor in or an allegory for many different areas of life i don't wanna i don't wanna have a deep introspection i don't wanna know if you're to committed to the cells in the movie if you're committed to the system you can't stop and enjoy other thing you might be right but i'm not gonna cause singing in the shower which i definitely do because as everyone knows who sticks it makes you sound a lot better than you actually sound 'em there's just some i i've done since i was a kid now i will say that i have a window and my shower and i look out at the beautiful i got a beautiful view while i'm negative washing i'm looking out the window and i'm i'm affirming myself and i'm doing healthy things thanks affirming yourself yeah remember we were there yeah i didn't listen to a lot of what you said about just kind of a prop up at a fair a that would leave me episode you'd glazed over here's the thing so so you sing in the shower now as well as throughout your entire life and i wouldn't say it say i would say it's like a thirty percent of the time that's that seems like a lot to me for a grown ass man what's the last thing you sing in the shower well the only thing i love about this question from russell is that i have a song that i only sing in the shower and i would not have been able to tell you that until somebody asked me i'm shocked i would have bet i would have bet v mt the clone of barbra stri saying dog that you would not sing in the shower why would i not sing in the shower it just seems so vulnerable like people can hear you man like i dunno i got miss lots of misconceptions about me man i think that you're perpetuating these misconceptions no i i'm a very vulnerable person i know i it's a it's a specific on average i'm not seeing that you're not vulnerable i'm saying it's a specific i don't know it's like we both have a level of self awareness that i think would prevent i'm put myself in this boat but i'm in a shower in my own home i'd it's not being broadcast but like if to the neighborhood if crazy walking in and out of the bathroom i dunno something on a psychological love i'd be like it's kind of ridiculous and i'm singing sometimes i will sing in the shower and jesse will join me from outside of the shower and we will sing songs to gather disney movie i'm just telling you that's the way it goes down in the michael often bathroom you know what that's beautiful just sing songs in the bathroom like try to harmonize with each other it's not an uncommon thing it's not like it's not like a half of the time but it's it's not unusual i'm urging all right let me i maybe this a turnover lee from me 'cause i'm 'cause you seem like they had a person who wouldn't want to sing in the shower but you've gotten in your own way that's probably true you need at least go song i don't even know if i'm gonna say the right a in the name of the song but it's by dopey gray what he's talking about is not give me the beach boys made the leap well no it's i think it's cold again not that you have some that song in the shower but that's not it is a loving arms song i don't see if you could see men now the one who say that he rather roam the one who say he'd rather be alone if you could only see men oh oh i've been too long in i in the win too long in the rain jacob in it come foods that are cam looking back at longing for the freedom mock change from matching funds in lyon in you'll love in a game i do not know you don't know how long know it you don't know that that'd be great song is one of the best man then it must have felt so good in the shower better in the shower well i've got a cold sound bad but i would hope it sounds better in the shower in your living on the guy now that's my shower song in in high school i would sing at the top of my lungs in the shower i've lost that part of myself and he'd get it back i would think clint black i think clint black in the shower 'cause we were both going through like a clint black fate yeah i'm seeing a lot of clint black lately i've been singing diamond rio in the shower because i started listening to diamond rio that's good i saw pick apart i start walking near when you start walking mine i would sing the sad clint black songs maybe it took for granny it you'd be around to pick me up on my way down here i can't sing the low in the shower i could yeah 'em you know just killing time in the shower just kidding ellen time and i would get out of the shower in my mom we are house was so small you be anywhere near you hear me in the shower and my mom would say you sound good you sound so good in the shower sounds so good i love it when you sing in the shower you've let go of that man's late going left that back in north carolina you gotta bring it a california is it makes it more home maybe i need to move back no i think he just starts singing in the shower shower bars and seeing so all i wanna do one more quick very quick one i know you gotta you gotta racking effect but 'em ten brand asks what is the correct answer to what's up this made me laugh what's up because i thought about are college roommate greg egg deliberately you would say nothing well i i think normal responses to this are nothing nothing much what i tell you you are you are you using what's up what's up you could say what's up back to somebody you could throw it right back adam although it would be but literally every time in greg wasn't being funny when he did it was funny but he wasn't trying to be funny like right when we first started we one of the first things we noticed about greg when we first met did you ask you say what's up greg greg says good good he would say it like that what's up greg good good good anywhere any had this like it's like it was like this carefree kinda bop to it like his head would buy in his bottom lip become a i mean he was good man deport the upper lip and is in kind of a smirk good yeah he he he was under the impression that he was under the influence that none of that type of joy man he was under the impression that this is lee correct response to what's up and i don't know if we ever talks about it i don't i don't know one hundred percent that he didn't do it for effect but he never we never discussed there were a lot of things about greg that we we didn't wanna pull back the curtain you know you just let it be great yeah it's like it's better to just take it at face value you just like whenever we talk about studying he'd say man you know what you know you don't learn anything yeah that sounds like a sound reasoning foundation to not do my homework i think i know for that i mean i've got many tweets from people who say they're employing greg's philosophy like they're like i know what you know i sat down this studying and then i just remember what greg said i don't think that's great advice if you're goal is to make good grades if you're going to enjoy yourself while you're in school and not really used the degree that you're getting a then that's good advice i'm not using my engineering degree so it worked for me we did a written linked cast and we had greg call in and we had a discussion with greg i don't know if that one's been posted to the mythical society i don't believe it has but i do remember remember that happening okay that's all the questions we we we greg with three geez man took some time on a all those questions will get some more questions next time we do an episode like this wreck wreck baby one two three four wreck wreck baby one two maybe maybe at one i forgot ahead give wrexham like traveling racking my brain 'em i was coming home i was gonna leave for work yesterday in chrissy sent me a text she was like we got this we've got a teenager party happening over here a little had a bunch of friends over and you were trying to be that house where the friends come over and hang out 'cause we think that we could we could be in the mix you you know we kind of know we have a pulse on what's happening in the fringe group but i like you could have your finger on the pulse i don't think you get the have the colts right right yeah yeah i were not christie tells me keep my distance not bop get get in there and be cool dad stay on the fringe right or be the guy who picks up stuff that they need and they want it to roast marshmallows on are are are firepit like you know what we need any get these he's an so i went to the ari i and i'm recommending that you go to the aria i ain't get they got these fancy a skewers i i love it when someone has thought about everything associated with something that you know you could just get a a dumb metal version the pokey rye out where it's like fully retractable it's like a pointer uber tracks in and out well how much is this a thirteen dollars piece you get to of how many do you buy for this group of twenty kids overture house well you know me well i got four of them i got two packs which is four total and i told literally hours to afford a time and you're sitting around watching each other ways the party man that's part of it you should have gotten enough scares people packed into you're firepit which i think twelve people could be fired but i totally should like i think you when i brought him home is i think you should i would like bragging about look when i got there retractable they got four coming in and look you can hold the handle and rotate you're thumb and it will twist the entire thing for 'perfect marshmallow roasting but windy for that i've got i would recommend that you choose you don't even get if your own family testing you don't even get enough of the neal's they're expensive man i love you twelve dollars this is what you gotta do and you're families roasting marshmallows hooghly one now i'm a everybody doesn't need a row someone's ones on like graham cracker duty somebody zone chocolate duty somebody then assembler in some in some people arrested make everybody do all there's more some people are better roasters and others and if you give everybody roasters eyes are gonna be poked out my my all marshmallows they're gonna be burnt one person going to the emergency room as part of you're first camping trip it just it's it's a right of passage i found an awesome thing and i i ain't by too many so you're you're recommended this but it has pretty pretty is except i just i'll add a wreck tiller wreck i think she'd get one per family member then i if i did there to impacts i would have won actress that's wasteful give it a j for ice backup perwin breaks they sound like they got a lot of moving parts on the designated roaster well they know you need one two hands to backups so there is this a an official ari i brand thing where you can get it at r e a m you just get it at all right yeah you can't get it at the grocery store which is where i was gonna go until jenna told me the good ralph's this is jen is wreck rats are area housing ralph's but you got you recommended did you get the marshmallow giraffes where did you get marshmallow

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David Boreanaz

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David Boreanaz

"Welcome to the PODCAST number. Ten thirty one come on out to Irvine the Irvine Improv doing standup November fifteen and sixteen. That's the Friday and Saturday. And then December twelve thirteen. Fourteen in Tacoma Washington at the Tacoma Comedy Club and were next year a bunch of dates. So I'll be announcing that very soon. If the GO-TO IVYTECH DOT com slash tour. That will give you those dates or you just Google those respective clubs. If you feel like it come on. It'd be nice to see see you come on out. Let's talk about what you're doing though in the community events that I d ten t dot Com like Ken who writes I created a stained glass. Sr worked for you Chris that I sent a while back the enjoy. Brio Reggie Watts. Oh yes thank you. Can he goes on to say my father-in-law and mentor taught me how to do it and supplied the material royal in shipping. He's former talented. I and I'd like to plug some of his current work. Scott ouderkirk is celebrated a celebrated stained glass artists. WHO's doing a lot of really creative and verse stuff your listeners? To check out his youtube series about building and restoring old wooden boats on the Saint Lawrence River called the wooden boat experience. That sounds awesome. He also created various handcrafted goods shop glass goat on his daughter also makes themselves awesome soy candles through Glasgow soy candles on its as well. I reckon every checkout Scott everyone checkout Scott ouderkirk beautiful stained glass works like the Queen and considered supporting his other work. If it strikes their fancy can thank you so much for the piece that you made for me and I will definitely check out Scott's work especially the boat stuff that sounds Oh my God restoring an old wooden boats. Oh God I love it it. I'm I almost I'm just going to. I'm going to finish recording this. I'm GONNA jump right onto that and then I'm GonNa get obsessed with worcester restoring wooden boats. I'm sure which there's something I never knew I wanted until I just read that sentence. This episode is David Boreanaz who is promoting nunnelee season three of seal team Wednesday nights at nine on CBS but also so the twentieth anniversary of Angel which is a show. That if you listen to this podcast you're probably somewhat familiar with all available. Episodes are on Hulu and oh he it was great. I knew it I knew he was going to be a nice dude because he has worked so much in the last twenty two three years and as as I say the podcast. It's not an accident usually when someone works job after job hit show after his show. There's an element of They're probably a nice dude and he he was so. This is very very very fun episode and I hope you enjoy the podcast number one thousand and thirty one with Mr David Bory on us and let us begin the thing. He protocol microphones check. I hope it's not embarrassing. That I'm wearing a sunnyvale shirt. I thought with the university coming coming up that it may already had it did have happened. The anniversary went down happened and it was always a experience. That's for sure in writing. Get chance to. I'm lost in your wallpaper as I kind of sit here and talk about the Angels Twentieth Anniversary. My Wife's my wife's the wallpaper make make choice. She's the one that puts everything up. The one that finds all the wallpapers. Yes so I I tend to like. She's good with furniture but furniture pitchers really my specialty. Her specialty is Colors wallpaper drapery memory click. She just finds all these yeah extinct seemingly extinct fabrics and wallpapers. Looks Cool. I like what style is your house. Well we don't we're just we're actually redoing our home right now so we're completely pulley doing a major tear down the whole properties. Going to be leveled are you. Are you so. Can you know leaving. And we're not. We're not living in here. I want to. I want to live in an airstream down at the bottom. But my wife's like that's not gonNA happen. That would not have and I would easily could have done it. You know it's easy for live in airstream or wherever and and the wife now I need a closet and I need like a facility. That's a bathroom with. At least you know running water. That doesn't stop so more charming. Everybody do the airstream that it actually is. I think David Got Hotel. So we're in the midst of doing in that so we rented a place which is cool because it's like circa nineteen eighty-seven place so it's all like it's intact act so you kind of feel like you're going back to just back into the eighty seven era with like an old movie or something. It's it's just. Has that whole kind of vibe going on nineteenth civilisational surprises like bricks of cocaine and said it was completely bananas. There are a lot. There is a bric a piece in the bathroom. That makes me wonder. Should we knock some of it down trying to hide. Something look would banisters. Got The old thermidor ovens and you know like the older ones when I came out and the refrigerator still kicking and it's great because it's just makes things really cold so I like cold cold milk and things that are cold. Cold Beer can't be like cold. It'd be cold cold on the verge of like that frost just has has a little bit a kind of tip of slush on the top almost a solid. Yes Click Chris. So we're we're kind of living this in the midst of moving right now and that's always difficult when you're moving from one point to the other and you get rid of stuff and you purge you give things away and then you also soc- boxes that you haven't opened up and pictures always get you so you're always go back in time. I is gone through of so many different pictures of my past. It's it's like it's crazy. Easy emotional hilarious. You know funny. People haven't seen in a long time and it's I I ran across the Lombok. Seems like Nineteen Polaroid Twenty of them of me and Glenn Quinn just like by Pint just drinking Guinness and hanging out and for those. Who Don't know Glen Queen? He played doyle on Angel. WHO's really dear friend undermine ended up dying and of a bad hair when overdose but great friend of mine still someone? I can't really Kinda let go in my life. Sure interesting so but I saw that. When you're moving you see these pictures and these things in your Cadillac? Wow this is just kinda hits you you know you kind of you. You remember all those times that you had when you're when you're there you don't think about how time goes by so fast is yes especially when you're young. You feel it go. This is a river but having a physical there really is something having a tactile experience rather than I mean you know my my. I cloud photo thing has literally seventy five thousand pictures in it wall. Did they just go back. Like from the first iteration of the iphone and it's very rare very rare. Do I go back and but when you go through a box and you find an old picture it was like a a milestone of that tight here. There's just something it just it. Just maybe it's just an old thing Oprah's and things but it just feels like it means more and more value when you can hold it of course when you're looking at pictures of people that are no longer in in your life or pictures that have that you'll never see again in you just kind of relive that experience. Sure moment is it's just overwhelming sometimes and on top of the moving beings wouldn't you move. It's how many flights to get into when you move with your better hat okay. This don't keep that you're annoying me getaway. Get Out. We're going with this. Don't touch my okay. You go over there over here annoyed me ninety times through the series like okay. So you've been divorced. You're back together again. You're divorced back together again okay. We're fine hunting experience. Everything that's divorce is it's all of. Oh they're moving the entire religion everything all in one minute. My office was stacked full of stuff that I was gonNA move and it just ended up my office at home just ended up looking like a hoarders closet. Yeah and so my wife kept going. I could just go in there and do it. I'm like myself and she. It was like nobody. You really need me to help you. Know I don't and then in the end of course I did need her to help me up but it you really do need someone to help you make some of those harder decisions because obviously obviously you wanNA keep polaroid's of a friend lost but like Oh. This coaster came from this really meaning yourself written on the coast cocktail Napkins Far Napkins. If my friends writing scripts and I have a box and I'm like I'm not going anywhere since like it didn't really make much sense but at the time it was great. So you know all that stuff yeah ash-trays and like I I collect old ashtrays from hotels around the world. I had so many really cool. who'll ones and things like that and mugs and pine classes and I think we have a similar love for antiques looking around this place? This is pretty cool. Oh thank you. Yeah what what was the hardest thing you actually got rid of. God that's tough. It's still happening shoes. I have a lot of shoes. There ensued suits like older suits that I want to pass on my son and let him have. Because I remember when I was growing up like my grandfather who I stayed a lot spent time with in Buffalo New York Doc. You know lived in where my dad grew up as an older house and I'd go up in the attic and look at all my grandfather suits and like this is great. You know so maybe that kind of leaked onto me and so like suits roots and older shoes and I still hold onto like the these great double breasted suits from the late eighties. And I'm like well I really WanNa hold onto these. Because they're just this time I've worn them and I want my son to Kinda dumb because I don't want to throw them away so I'm still holding onto them. They don't fit me ties ties or like all old vintage clothing leather jackets. Geez forget I have Oh. I'm sure I'm sure you know me tons of leather jackets. That's what I was going through the closet. I think I have angels original of their coat house like two of them in my. I gotTA keep that right. I was like which one is it. Is it this one or that one and I think it was a Hugo boss. That was the was the make who made it but that was the original one. I'm like we can't get rid of that. Let's like fake bloodstains stains on the diary of that period of time. That's about I mean some day you know a hundred years from now that you you could that could be in an that would go for like never know. Yeah you never know that could go wrong twenty grand or you could just kinda donate it right through museums nine even to museums is like let it go. Yeah so then somebody would pick it up and not even know that they're wearing that code. Oh they should. Because there's like blood on here I got this uh-huh yeah write a little note on the inside and then you donate it buys. It reads the snow like well. That's kind of that's an authentic piece. I just found well. I think you know I think with old props like a fun thing to do at some point if if someone could you know part with something maybe there's something to part with is just like you know have an auction for charity charity because then you raise a bunch of money and then someone really wants it gets it and then and then and then you don't have to deal with it anymore and then everyone kind of wins that to me is when you have kids though you want to pass it on to them. So then if they're blessed to have children and you know it's kind of stays days within the family. Dad's vampire yeah. They don't give that up. But I got a pinball machine James Garner's machine it was made for him from the movie. Maverick and I know is his daughter very well. And she's like oh I got a bunch of stuff and I'll take the pinball machine so purchase that from her and that is just hard thing to move around. It's not easy you can't just move pinpoint takes at least six. People advocate that thing but That's a cool piece that I have bad. That's really cool. Yeah and it wasn't ever used so it was made in his honor for the movie for Maverick and it just kind of you know. Yeah basically we just turned into Steve Martin. At the end of the one of this is just want that all I want a new empire Jack in pinball machine that good luck trying to drag the pinball machine jacket would be fine but it would take a lot of people to move that thing we do. We have been ball machines to and they're fun but but I find that you play them a lot for the first couple weeks like bowling young guys board after the six frame or like having a pool table obviously funding pool tables and you play for like a month and collects dust thumper pools cool remember bumper bull and that was actually kind of a cool little tiny hole at the same time Bam. You'd hit it. She who got it included and then you can just hit. If you were on a roll you would just hit all the balls and that was a good. That's a lot better because it's smaller. Yeah not as big doesn't take as much base yeah. I think I'm going to get a bumper pool knowing I had this one space in thinking. This is a good spot for the bumper. Buddy I know oh you may get rid of a lot of stuff but you have enough room for a bumper pool and I took the bar that I made because you can't leave a bar behind you don't WanNa bar to be destroyed. Sure sure so that was that was huge. They got it. I couldn't believe it. I asked my friend Roberto Dude. He got like six seven guys and they're like did it and I'm like wow yeah tour from the wall and they just pushing it through like the the small little space in areas and then they got to the rental and they're going through the bushes and it's like well. We're almost there. It's flying all over the place. It smells like Thanksgiving. It's crazy three things that I've tried to explain to millennials to know too little to no success was one was bumper pool. This these are these are things that everyone three things that everyone had in the seventies bumper pool tables pachinko machines. Yes and I tried to explain organ stores like every mall had an organ just or they did and all the people who work there could play in. So you'd walk into a mall and you hear didn't I didn't and then there would be like these tiered because we we went into tears of them. Here's of them because we went to the malevolent premier here at the El Capitan than they have. An organ played. Worse comes out my wife's like Oh that things crazy and I go into my wife my wife and her thirty s and I go well every mall had one of these and she's like what I go. Yeah they had these Oregon stores. Everyone had a fucking Oregon call these switches and all these crazy and I'm like but now that your phone can do that. A little the less exciting than it was in the mall and then you win store to Hickory Farms Sausage Orange Julius yes the carpets stores that were rolled holdout. Climb on them in your mom like me. I grew up in Buffalo New York. I saw a lot of those those stores but yeah the organ was huge for me is hockey okay. So it's the sound of the the sound of the organ store the smell of the hickory farms the taste of the orange. Julius that to me those are the real real like those. Bring out the mind t-shirt champion t shirts with the details. Oh the vinyl liga smell the vitamin like. Oh Yeah I like hot rod cars. I'll get a shiny hot right tale. You'd see it'd be burned on and then you'd be like this is awesome. Get like two days later. It's Bob Lynn and Palin Sunburn Peeling David. I just I have not known new very long but I think we should pull some of our TV money and opened a seventy S. That would be good man. That's a good idea. There's there's a lot of property out in Westlake that needs to be. Uh Ah. I think that'd be fun to just build a small community. I wonder if that's going to happen at some point where people who. It's sort of like the plot of the village that were they moved out to be away from technology. Rather than moving into like pilgrim times we move into just pick an air like the seventies where we have some technology but not much of it. We have enough to cook and eat plumbing share. We haven't television. You can play the member Dragon Dragon's lair towards the arcade game of every absolutely. I was I. I just put so many quarters in that machine donkey Kong was I mean those reckons layer. I have some original cells from the animation of drag. That was done by a guy named Don booth and it was like an original like that's when they first started screwing around with laser technologies. And I'll say yeah. Yeah so you know. My friend was here last year. To Hotel fell somewhere and they actually like it was in Mexico. And they had the Arcade Dragon's lair in the lobby. Oh my Gosh I kid you not there. It's like he's like the game used to play when we were kids in Buffalo New York the mall and like acids and there was like you had the one two three two one like you had the whole technique in order to get the layer soared the horse. Yup that was big. That was my other slide Stewart. I remember I remember in six six or seven th grade. We had to give a speech class about something. We were an expert Burnett to teach other kids and yes they should just give you an idea of how popular I wasn't I gave Mike about how to dragon slayer like all the patterns and so there are only like three other nerves in the classes before the Internet and we could all pool our resources but Like two or three other owners the class that had questions like Oh this one the one board in the treasure room. Oh well that's up down left right all the. Oh Yeah I would draw the Diagram on the board and needless to say I was a terminally unpopular kid but but that that in space as you like laser game and you play dungeons and dragons course see now that I. I didn't play dungeons dragons but when it first came out the kid street had it and they're like got to play this game unlike what is called Dungeons and dragons. Wow this has got to be kind of like almost like the forefront of like Qatari or along the line easing like were is it. It's like here where these dice and paper. I'm like this so boy I'm sorry not doing. I'm like expecting dragons. Moving around and like dragons of the mind did not work for me but it has a query popular. It's it's it's ahead of quite a resurgence. They'd had a lot of people. Were playing it now. I think also as a response to how isolating just playing a video game alone can be you get a bunch. The people in a room they have to interact with each other use their imagination be resourceful so it. Actually has a resurgence now. I'm sure it does. Does everything lack of regionality. But there is a big resurgence of television shows movies. It's what streaming. What's not is a lock on? I'm sure I you know I'm sure joss always gets it. And then you're GonNa do a firefly read. What are you GonNa do GonNa do an angel reboot not in this lifetime but this is what delight me and fascinates me about? Yeah you have been on television since nineteen ninety ninety seven without a break. And that's like that's a fucking incredible achievement. A lot of pain from buffy angel to bones to seal team like every season you have a hit show on. And that's that should. You should get an award for that doesn't happen. I think the anatomy of a hit. If if you want to call it a hit is just like maintaining your sensibility about the work in your your work. Effort is to me like the most important part of the whole journey journey and has been I mean I went to private school high school all boys and it was like Augustinian. Pres you work you the memories stuff growing up as a kid and my mom's like you have to have the job Dork. The farmers market a worked every summer. It was so I created a work ethic that I translated into my work that I do today and that just is for for me. It's always been about work. I like to work. I love being around it. Love the people. I don't I try. I try to always necessarily just focus on that and everything else. I don't like I I don't I'm not a big person who's into the publicity market or go into red carpets. Are Meeting this person or that person you know it. It's exhausting. I tried that ad and it's very daunting and people don't even know really how to talk to people. It's a very odd situation but you know to to the to the work it's all about. The effort is listening to something day. Ivana Chubby is like my my my guru. I've been working with her for over twenty years and acting coach and we work together on everything and I. It's just again her recipes. It's one of the questions was. Do you like working with your students. You like working with the stars who've made and she's like well. I've worked with students who have lived with eight people in a house and it's like those people have broken out because the certain people have work ethic is there ethic is constantly gearing towards towards making choices. That are risky right regardless. If you succeed or fail you need to make a choice. It's risky and out there and put yourself out there and that's very scary for a lot of people no matter what business you're in I mean not surge and you'll and make a risky choice when you open heart or let's let's see. Let's just try it so I mean I think to me overall is is really what it's about. It's about the work and it's tough. I mean it. Television region is a is a grueling pace. I mean I work seal team now and it's still twenty two episodes. That's like a lot. Why do we still doing that? Formula I mean I look at people with thirteen episodes or eight here I'm on net flicks and I'm like. Wow you can fuck and swear you have a fucking alive. You can read a book. I'm still like twenty two episodes for shooting in an eight days seven days because we're so fast and meanwhile the cruise dine and everyone around like this. We can't wait to get the Thanksgiving break right right right just to get three days. AW UH-HUH WHOA. So it's it's been a journey and a blessing for one and I don't continue. I just want to continue that and I don't plan on stopping anytime saying. Yeah but all the but it's but you look at it in everything you've done. I mean obviously angel came out of buffy but bones was different than than yeah angel and then seal team team is different than bones. And so you. You've really done a good job because it would have been really easy. I imagine to take another job. That was like oh I should probably do some kind of fantasy Scifi. I five thing and you you jumped and did a network procedural yeah and it worked really well you know so it at the time where you face with some of those choices. Did you have a lot of options. And you said Oh this one really makes sense to me or how did that. I didn't really necessarily think that would be the the the key I was like. Oh I got a choice. That is necessarily different from what I'm doing I'd necessarily was just. I live my life. I wake up and wherever my environment is kind of is dictating the character choices in my life since I play pretty much all the carriages. That's infused what's going on in my life relationships or whatever so when bones bones came along it was it was kind of like a free kind of. I always think that when you end the job it's or a long running series or carries like it gives your sense of sense of freedom because you're you're very vulnerable and you're open to a lot of things you see things a lot better and things just kind of fall into your lap and of course you you sit there and you say well I I remember people saying well. You should go for this role here. This is a really cool role and got a great cast and I said well I like this other role. Oh that's Kinda interesting called bones and you know we were the last pilot picked up when we shot it and they're like well. This show is not going to go. It's silly it's name bones and I kind of like the relationship and the way the characters are talking to each other it was very like romancing the stone yes John wrote to me and a lot of people didn't see that and I did and I just kind of went into that arena so for me it's like it's not conscious choice. It's just something that happens shirt and I and I I don't want to be too like a theory about it but that's the way I am. You know just kind of happens. We'll go for this right and it worked out. I'm glad it did. And you know we were very successful in that show and creating characters that worked opposite opposite of the procedural. I mean when we started that show. Emily and I worked with Ivana for Eight or nine episodes every weekend rewriting stuff and bringing it to the producers reducers and changing things and instituting things and at first they wanted like a drama they wanted like an x files. One this mysterious thing. I mean it's not that it's not funny. It's not you know corky and it was great to see after we had successfully broken those barriers for five seasons later other procedures. Were doing the same things they wanted to of conversations over bodies about like you know. What did you eat last night in? Why am I feeling sick like these things are all character related and but it made sense so we were proud that we are able to do that and see that and you know working with? Emily was Was a joy and just great experience. She's she's his financial and also Somebody who was The two of us were able to really work with each other in the work environment and understand each other's moods it was a long marriage marriage. And you know what. I'm not having such a great day today. I'm telling you that right now a fried oh sure. Emily goes yeah. I understand I respect. I love you man but you know we still have that banter. We'd still respect each other. Who would never we always be open with? Each other would never hide things from each other are very it just became a great match. I was very fortunate to have that so But bones was. It was a great run and Regardless if it was a an unconscious decision I think it was smart for m- mm for me at the time because you do show like buffing very cold arena and then you take the character and it gets spin off to its own series for vice seasons and I think angel was a show that could have gone on a lot longer. I think that ended a lot quicker. I think it was different. Type of show was darker. Obviously more adult oriented themes teams. I mean the Guy Vampire living in Los Angeles saving souls. It's so like hilarious. I mean it was great people that we had on the characters are so great. The pump episode. Everyone loves the puppet well. Of course it's up. It's the best. It's a triumph at the television triumph. Like to and that's that was the fun. The thing about both of those shows is that it was always looking for ways to have this fun sub textual with the audience of like. We know what you're used to seeing and we I want to play with that. Yeah and have fun. We WanNa have fun with you the audience and show that you're willing to break the mold sometime step out of in in that and I think that was what you know. Buffy really kind of started this nine hundred ninety. Six Ninety seven started this era of respecting that type of a kalt audience. And saying like. Hey if you were if you were to make show this is the type of show you would want to make. Yeah and that's what it felt like. It was very much when we went to comic con. I think it was early on ninety six ninety seven. I was just boxes of comics on the floor. There was no huge marquee advertisements for movies. It wasn't it was a pure comic book convention. Your people selling like real men are the you know become everything it was just authentic and then now it's just kind of gravitated go there and everything's promoted sure it's it's crazy. Everything's like a big movie era of big production and there's lights dance like what happened here. Well they osh blew up man. The entertainment industry followed the money. Because you you know this sort of this sort of trend in nerd culture that you know that buffy was definitely one of the for the contemporary nerd movement planted the flag in the soil and said this is a real audience. And it's not just Nishi and it's not just a bunch of that. Stereotypical do boost indeed. Hey baby maybe I live in the basement of my house and I let my mom live upstairs. You ever think of that but in any case it when they they started realizing like there's a real audience here all the entertainment company's course you know because then around two thousand two thousand one. You Have Spiderman X.. Men Harry Potter. Yeah that's great and so yes. What all blew up but it does go back to what you were talking about before about that? Pr Dance Yup. which you're right and I think I've always I was saying that to my wife? This morning that I've I've always respected that. It seems like you chose to not be a part of that because that also you get attention based on how you you know how much they perceive you as being it's like and that's very fluid you have no control over that and then you're just a commodity that now feels that could really fuck with your head because you're trying trying to control it absolutely when you try to control than it just goes crazy this messy. Yeah you're walking with shoes on backwards. I think you're you're you. You just create his own world inside your head that's like a fantasy world and it's not real right. It just becomes your own. Dragons layers nicely. Done really does play when buffy started out and we were fortunate to get I got on that show it was like I was a reoccurring character the first thirteen eighteen episodes in the night. It just works the character of Angel and Buffy and it was a love story and it took off it was a very big league. impactful moment for that show and just catapulted that love story even further up and then I'm like hey they want some more episodes mature. I ain't doing doing anything. I was living in Los feeless with like four. My best friends. It new rented this house it was like the first original house in Los feeless was. It's like the sunset boulevard was a plastic surgeon. made this House for Charlotte depre- who is silent films. And it was in honor of his love for her so we rented out with all the original furniture and it was like crazy. You know and I was like hey. I'm just staying here. We'll do six more episodes of of a vampire with missile. I didn't care but the breakdown came out and it was like he's like Joe Louis prizefighter. Who can take a shot can always get back up like that resonated more with me than anything thing else when they said this? Is the character breakdown. I remember getting the role and we had this big party in those fearless and my buddies are like dude. You're playing vampires and I'm like. Yeah it's Joe Louis Care to Canton. That comes back in like doesn't take upon and it was just like this all these like interesting metaphor is going on in my head. The time I and I was excited to be working to in identified show up in it I it was not really a lot of stuff who just meet brooding and corners and kind of look into her and talker loved her and we created this thing and blow up there eight episodes later and then turns into a series regular. I'm like wow this is taken off. It's crazy and you could fulfil the momentum of it in a way that was like. Why are we going with this week when it comes out it's popular six episodes in it gets more popular than its? Is this cult thing and next thing you do him doing. Cover shoe the Rolling Stone magazine with Sarah Michelle Gellar and there's big e fans and Griffith Park and there is nine photographers around. Everyone's drink drink beers and Shan't say what's going on coach flying. You know I I did a photo shoot with any LIEBOWITZ milk campaign. I'm like when when I went angel. Got To get his own show on harnesses and they're like I'm drinking milk. It's like this is a bad job. This really is far far from the Joe. Louis Guy Really Mad. It was pretty intense. A you know you find yourself getting more and more into the trying to control that aspect going to places getting into places and it's a it can become a wrecking ball for for with all your Saul role. Yes because it's so self identifying here. I am playing a character has to save souls in Harriers your own soul going down these path or like what's it's going on here right now and it's fascinating And when a transition happened into my own show I was. I was so like Josh Joseph. Like hey you're going to get the show spinoff green wall and I'm like I was working on his Irish accent. That was horrible and I was in characterized long hair and I was playing Liam News. It was like I was more focused on that. He told me I was like okay. Great I got to go through the sea now like my face. My my thing is is always moment to moment. Never what's behind behind you always the next step and swell of my life you know and It to faults sometimes but You know that show show went on to greater success because of the success that came from from buffy the character created itself and going and going and the People Roy Moore the show runners that are now show runners. The writers became show runners. You Know David Fury Mardi Knox and I can name tons of that have gone on are now successful runners of their own shows and created. Some great stuff is it. That's that's the best part is really working with these writers and people have created such remarkable material and in the in the relationships you've garnished other cast members and guest stars that have come on fantastic couriers and is always going bones. It was such a long running show on the guest stars had come on. You'd see their careers. Take off and that was always exciting to see that as well and I think there's also a testament to this. This business will put up with a lot. Yeah but I think in order to maintain a career. I've always just assumed like. Oh Dave it's probably a super nice guy cause someone wouldn't get show after show after show after show if they weren't fun and easy to work with because it at a certain point eight the businesses just like guys kind of a pain in the ass you know and so it but hearing about how you just make it about the work but then also hearing that you'd went through a period period where you had to learn about how insatiable the ego can be because there's never it's unfilmable hole course and some people that just just fully consumes and then some people can go. Oh wait a minute let me take a step back in time because it's really affecting your life or it's affecting how you feel about certain things and yeah. Of course you go through those moments I think to to this day. You always do it for me to be blind and not say that there would be stupid. It'd be lying to myself. You always are going wing through challenges regardless of what that is where you are You know simplicity is always that the most important thing to me and laughter or is the most important thing that gets me through. And it's you know you work with these seals and You know these guys that these real tier one operators at work these Smith major missions. You know so. Don't get make it out. And some of them do or have their arms blown off or they're loose their legs and I was like. So how did you get through that moment. It's like well you know. Just have my arm was blown off and you know telling jokes about movie lines and getting through with laughter through pain slow. Hello it's intense like it's hard to comprehend it but it makes no sense you know I think laughter's the biggest care for everything in life and and you know I think that you you need a lot of that in and of course my dad and my mom and my family's very tight with me so they've always always help me guide that especially my father. Yes like huge huge He represents everything to me. You Know My dad's everything and they always they're always with with no judgment But there to strengthen the laugh gene that's good and it also also makes a Lotta sense unfortunate too. I mean look there's you I think you are a product of your environment. I represent like that for which is like take a kid who is Trying to make it in the sports team out east and he was brought out somewhere. Living didn't have the facilities of the type of training. And then you go to the East Coast and your competitive and you're not as competitive because these kids are leagues Eddie you because of their environment You know the you know when when you you play sport out here and it's like let's say hockey. It's not as you know you can't just go outside and skate on the frozen canned and like these kids are all doing out here. You're just like you got son and you can't do much. Yeah so it's different. I mean environment plays a big part of it. Sure I really do but hearing you talk about working with seals and because this is the first it's not like you could talk to a vampire or you know I mean it who says you can't talk to a vampire everyone's fascinated. We talked to a lot of empires his role. We had to paint the windows black to get into it. And you know it's a whole thing. Well you know sometimes you bite the person the neck and what every dialect but but what I what. What's so interesting? Is that this this show where you're actually playing. You're representing acting a real group. Yeah and so. was there anxiety on your part of like well I WANNA make sure I'm respectful. 'cause you're talking to these guys and you see like they have you know and then you look we look at performance I guess. My Job's really. Not that hard. You know what these people do to put themselves in. Harm's way day in day out sacrificing pricing like you said life and limb and and and they and they can do it with such Stephen Breed. Yeah exactly all right different breed. So what was any of that. Did that affect you when you first took on the role go. I really need to make sure that we do the right way. Because it represents a real group of course we we do it the right way and we're proud of that you know it's something that we don't take lightly at all and it takes a little bit time but when we shoot it's it's very effective and very fast but the Matt one of the executive partners on the show executive producer with me with me As well Chris Shellac on a we you know we've he's I use someone. who was on thirteen deployments Captain Phillips Bin Laden? Those guys are they're just they're just different Britain uh-huh and you can see it in their eyes you can see them where they talk to you And they're also very tumbled and extremely just just really cool great guys to hang out with Great storytellers and they. They they tell you I think to a point What you WANNA hear To be honest. And so you take that information and for me was all really about the mind. And how they function and how they compartmentalize things how they deal with being away in deployment and coming home home after a long run and Gino putting someone's head back together and make an emission complete. They're arguing about Christmas tree lights. And you know why I have to tell is not working in the kitchen and you get into an argument your wife over the disposal the day after it's like Whoa. That's a big flip right and and it's playing this role going into the third season. You take that that on you know you you to tap into the mental aspect of of what this character goes through and From the beginning season one. It wasn't as it's really starting to get darker and deeper now. Really get into his mind fine. How he kind of is hearing kind of those voices and the demons and his brothers who passed away and how it's catching up to him And when you're on that grind you want to be as authentic as you can see you do talk to them and you do get the stories you but you also have to bring flavor to that right. You have to an actor to take that Information Ivonne and I work on what is underneath all that inside like how to make these specific choices that you know these are Alpha male guys. They operate one hundred and fifty percent. You know their engines are always going They don't ido very well but yet they're very methodical and slow when they're on the attack and they were operated team so in operating team if one functions off then. That's not going to be a team which I love that aspect of it so for me. It's always very sports oriented. It's so easily last. Sports Metaphors Hockey team takes the ice. If you're not playing the right move or you're not in your position. Stain your laying. Then things are gonna go crazy is he's not gonNa work and that's how they these guys operate and When there's a clog off the mission does not succeed? Their biggest fears failure. They don't want to fail like that's taste accepted for them to them is like a big gaping wound when you see a physical wound that is not as effective as a failure and emotional national wound. That's opens up and stays with them and it just festers and they live with so much regardless of what they're dealing with. PTSD TBI whatever that is is it just grows and grows and grows so to your point. Yeah we I did talk to the people I've talked to Matt. I did talk to tyler. The guys that were Delta Force Force guys that are on our show. I got into their heads. I you know they're very good friends. Their brothers we went out drinking at parties in my house else with them You see how they operate you see how proud they are. You know. It's a when you bring a bottle of whiskey and a bunch of tier one guys. It's an interesting night night. I'll tell you but you learn a lot and not to say okay. Well we just got smashed learned. It's you know you don't really need to what you can effectively find attitudes and how they adjust and it's amazing to watch from the actor perspective you just take all that and then you find yourself living it right. Find yourself immersed so much in the role in the you're now you're really into this role in your part of it in for me Jason Hayes has been the most Immersed character I think I I have ever played on all of them because they all lead to one another in a way you for you and you say oh you take bits and pieces from certain characters that you play. I fell into this role and it made sense to me and it was called to me I gave it up. I didn't WanNa do it. And then it came back to me so it made sense to me and It just was kind of like this needs to happen and I fell into it and here I am in third season. I'm like wow. This is really amazing to be apart of but because I feel it I I can do a scene If doing with ray abroad to guy and I'm going to an issue or problem I've done the work and working my subtext It's it's there's A. There's something about it that again. It's the you do them right right. It's the history. It's the history of a tier one operator of plane. Whatever that is veterans in the room you have an obligation to to them all of them right because you're playing this character and he don't want to be you want to be as authentic? Thank you can right and that becomes real and you feel it and in the scenes and it for me. It's it's like it's ignition. It's you the spark plug goes off. I can hit a line. I'm hitting a role and I'm on my roll with it and it just becomes very vulnerable right. I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed that feeling that rush of intensity here that that feeling that I'm going through because it showing the character struggles. It's showing the characters victories. It's showing the character's involvement involvement in bringing the team together in leadership and how effective leadership can be and also the cost of leadership right how it can change the dynamics of team mm-hmm right and the other choices. The other Bravo members are making. So it's a fascinating world in in. I've just enjoying it right now and Also understanding them as human beings and not just these machines that go out there not not have depth and they have they deal just the compartmentalization to me is so because especially because we feel like our culture right now is an estate where where you know. Everyone is conditioned to not ever feel an uncomfortable herbal emotion at any given moment like Oh you know we take we take pills to stop that and we do and we you know we consume to forget and we go on social media to distract you know and so you know to see that there are still people in the world who go. Yes the core of my job is living in a state eight of discomfort seeking that embracing fighting through it is so I have so much respect for and it's endlessly fascinating to me because it's antithetical to what I believe is happening a lot in our culture now which is just a complete. I want my life to just be like a big pillow now any of that but I wanted my life to be like an instagram ad or in person or whatever that post is and you're right you're only as valuable as followers right Sounds Crazy Z.. But it's like you know the star belly speeches thorax reference. Come on man like what's going on. You gotTA start. I don't have a star while go to MC monkey mcbain in August stars off. They don't have stars star off machine. How are you communicating? Because your kids must be t- how old are they seventeen and a ten year old just the weirdest time to be a young person right now. I would imagine because I don't know how they do it. Man Man I mean social media blitz Krieg the snapping the it was hard enough to navigate our own immediate social circles in schools and I also was along with everyone in the world. Now it's intense and it's in your scrutinize and you're under a microscope in so many ways and You know my family is to me very private and I keep it that way and I don't like to kind of really divulge like what they're doing but I will say that that my son and my daughter are very different. Parts of their one. Ten one seventeen one goes to school a boarding school out east. And he's feeling ailing all that what I felt like grown up in east coast the winters. How tough it is carrying a backpack full of books? You know all boy school like it's intense it's in the grind is intense. Sports is intense. It's like wow. They're really working hard every day for whatever that is and not just for the physicality of it but for the mental aspect aspect of it to break walls and become a young man right and learn that through through the environment that you're in again. There's my daughter is home. She question writer and she's on horses and she's jumping now on the tenth. I'm like this is crazy but she adapts to the environment because she loves horses and she's at home jumping dogs all the time. Our houses is like got sticks. All over dogs are flying. It's like it's like a magical world greasy but it has been consumed with with again the social media at they are scrutinized. They are put under a surface or your dad. Does this for a living. Now you're become more than just who you are yourself. Ourself identity for them is. I have to break through that. I mean me growing up. My Dad was in television. He had a kid show called rocketship seven and he was listening to whether guy in Philadelphia Philadelphia. He was a very popular guy in Philly. Dave Roberts city line I got the whole thing and I went to school and I was like razzed or whatever bully whatever that is whatever you deal with his kid kid you got that under that umbrella of whatever comes with it you have to find ways to navigate around it. Are you being my friend. Because my dad's whether guy in Philadelphia right right right right. Do you WanNa go around the station and meet the news. I wanted you on the podcast to be honest. Billy's Game Don Paulson was a sports guy that time you meet the fanatic like sixers cord. It's like crazy man. It's and you know but one thing my my dad always told me it was like you you you. He would introduce us all Dave Robert. Oh Yeah this is my son David and was like really daddy got to reduce me. You're my son in. This is who they are and you take time to talk my dad text everybody. It's like a Utah Goodbye. They say goodbye in the kitchen in the hallway out the doorway and I know you gotta lever leaving an hour. You better start planning now because that's when you're going to get out but also that has taught me the simple things handshakes shakes and looking people in the eyes and communication with vulnerability in love and support and listening like being able to listen to somebody without all this noise. You know like the social media noise like I'm I'm just happy that my son can read cursive and write a letter Jeff. Have you written. Write me a letter I have. I wrote a letter last week. I my handwriting. I tried to write something recently sad and I'm like what happened to him by handwriting. Oh fuck you gotta practice this. It'd be nice all go to handwriting school ink pen and the quail calligraphy amazing. It's really and then I have my nephew he doesn't he doesn't write cursive. I'm like how do you not do that like they just they just. They're not it's not how they were treating. This doesn't autocorrect itself. I don't know the blue. I've got the four color pen. That's your auto correct right. My autocorrect is yeah scraping out. I mean I remember having to take you know I had to take typing in like seventh with Gregg. Remember that and we were on these non electric. y'All like mad men era particularly to and if you fucked up you had to go go back and put in like a little white the little white thing and hit it Redo the letter and so there was no there was no safety net. There was no room for mistake and it was incredibly stressful. Yeah Safety Nets are another even brings up from me. He's like you'd go out and audition for roles and the evidence enacting teacher. It'd be like your coaching with them to go to audition for something like you'll have to have that safety net because if you fuck up then you have to go to right which I kind of understand what I also like. Hey maybe she don't have a safety net you'll fall and you'll find another place it'll be more interesting than what you just try. That's that's always by choice to but and there's a lot of safety nets today. Embracing falling is is a great thing to learn. I'm not saying I'm great at it but it is if because I feel like if you can embrace raced the fall. You're relatively unstoppable in life because you're constantly in a state of growth learn like okay. I'm not afraid you know I have if I have a friend. I had a friend ingrates who was not a particularly big guy but he just wasn't afraid to fight because he wasn't afraid to get hit in the face and so he was actually not a big kid but considered a tough kid only because he was not afraid to get hit and he was not afraid to throw a punch and I was afraid of both of those things and so it it it feels like a skill set that if you could adapt that in your life then you really could get through pretty much anything like I remember as a kid. I always we want to skateboard when you're not getting to skateboarding. Correct your head but you can go play ice hockey okay or you can go play football like okay. Well that's all right what's going on. I remember playing soccer kid and I picked the ball up and started running in the wrong Bundy's movie one for me. Remember the East Coast and the cold and playing in the dirt and Plymouth playing football games and there was no grass it was dirt and stones. And you get your knees chopped up in your elbows cut up but it came out like it's like a war. Yeah and like you said you go through these falls in these paying but you get back up yeah you learn how to get back up. And that's why I'm so I'm I'm very happy and proud of my son to be on the East Coast to be able to experience that In getting uncut metaphorically by You know the the east coast mentality who the weather the way they live out there compared to while they live on the west coast so different. So that's a blessing for him and a blessing for my daughter to get on a thousand pound animal. Take off and I said Dad. I'm an athlete. I write a thousand pound animal and this other issue but she tells the animal what to do. I think Bella cert- first season of Angel on my character got on on a horse. It was a black stealing. I have a picture of it and I wrote downtown on a streets. No why full gallop with a lance in my hand. I did that one take in the library get him off bucking horse right now. I'll feel you'd never again Kelly. I'm fucking talking horse. Cuckoo charging the coastline and I was like remember stoppers like bark. Yeah it was awesome. Get the fuck you. If you're you're my fucking horse you get injured this shows fucking like okay. There's an alternate timeline. Where that David didn't survive that horse? Yeah now that areas are probably but I I I find myself actively always being involved in the roles I mean bones wasn't really a stunt show. I was like I always said to them. You're not really utilizing my capability. Here I can ride a horse through the lab and everybody would be happy you know but because it was relationship and then when I got to it to seal team it was like wow you know you gotta keep your body going you have to keep your mindset with the the workouts and intensity of it I just turned fifty so you have to maintain your workouts in your eating habits and you're constantly grinding. That out and you wake up and you're sore. North Dallas forty. Yeah Yeah you can't use like what did I just get. Hit with putting on the gear and the guns and the helmet and truck on on long nights three days out and location in the middle of the night going up and down stairs and low crawls like a man. I don't know how all those guys do it. Because there there's there they have an unspoken language but they're also in you know what's really interesting about these guys. is they blend in. You know they'll beards. They all like they don't. They're not military cut guys they kinda were t shirts and they're hanging out in all of a sudden they're like whoa that guy come from a Ninja Dude. Serious fucking Ninja Superhero. We're here without a Cape. He's not from green screen. He's not wired up and he's doing serious shit. That's protecting the were off the country to be free to wake up. Even make scrambled eggs walk outside without Baltic. These these guys are doing that again. Back to your points. That's why you want to get it right. That's that's why you WANNA scratch those services and if if I can with this character Cast some light in the shadows their minds were they struggle in society where they're not accept it turnout understood. Then I'm doing well and it's also the ability to learn how to like with you know putting all the gear or these these these guys that you're talking about is just being comfortable with discomfort and pain. I have such a low threshold for pain. My Wife to my my my wife will like you know like recently I kinda notice. She turned her head wearing. What's wrong she goes? I pinched nerve in my neck and go. When did you do that? And she was like I like four days ago and go. You didn't say anything. You seem fine and she was like. Yeah what good would it do. How do you do that? You know like the first point that would have happened to get out of bed. According to bring me things I mean again I need anti inflammatories I need and so some people just have the ability to embrace the pain and not an push through. Anyway I agree with you and I think that that's one of their things their adrenaline so high that they can push the the pain. Kind of actually motivates them the pilot we were shooting in the tyler graves. Delta Force Guy was coming off of a of a chopper role rope and he was coming down and he slipped on the take he was so fucking Matt. I'm like dude why he's so mad he wouldn't talk to me he's like he was so upset that he disappointed the whole routine. He took it so to a degree. Because these this guy's again will not accept failure right. They push through pain like you said. They're very good in their fast to their fucking multi fast. I mean these guys can fuck and run Like it just they just like gazelles just taken off man and some of them are just rhinos. You know like a j Buckley plays the you know the guy. Who's kind of like the grunter of team TV's funniest from Texas? And you know He. He's those guys like rhinos right like coming at you in Berlin. GotTa break the role all you got to break through walls. And they're just they got the big guns you know their knuckle draggers ammo right. I'm leading a team. I'm compartmentalizing talking to the havoc base. Where we're at how I'm going to do that? And I'm talking to them and telling them what to do and we're taking charge so it's Kinda like mouse trap game just for example example ethics. It's like you don't WanNa get never fucking game to work. Never not one time setup perfectly if you breeze wrong thing would fuck and fall or it would start to always stop like. Why did you stop? I don't know it's very frustrating. Milton Burrow Games. Were they were very frustrating. strating right back in your dad's Day. Entertainment was much different much different dynamic but it was also like it was like the big tracks when that thing came out. I remember number wanting this thing for Christmas there was this robot thing was big tracks and you program the back of it and it was just. Do you remember the big tracks. Was it like a little. I can't believe you don't remember. Was it like little tankeea. Robots robots thing on the back dump the Apple. Yes yes the diverse dad's like reading the newspaper. You can bump one thing at a time and the commercials like the kids like beep and in this thing takes off like the pod and in Steve Austin was fighting the pod was indestructible and it would go down the hallway. Take her right. The cat would look up this thing and they fire at the cat. Laser's would go by the dad and it would drop the apple to the Dad and return home. What the fuck boy I want to add had my dad's like it's can't afford it and like Dad Watts? All I wanted man was big tracks and I remember gotten and all I did was go up and down the hallway. Because we didn't have this cool house today asking. Yeah wouldn't go downstairs and eventually a program that got on the stairs at broke. It flipped and why I follow the. I follow an instagram account. I WanNa make sure I reference it correctly but it's it's called Saturday morning cartoons and it basically is yeah Saturday a underscore morning cartoons and so it shows a lot of old clips of cartoons and then the commercials. Yeah so you see how these these shop wagon. Yeah you see all these old commercials and from when you were a kid or watching cartoons or whatever and all the commercials for the toys. I'm like that commercial is basically the one thing cnet toy does and when you get home you realize fuck. This doesn't do anything really. Doesn't they sold it so we'll go ahead. Yeah but I mean for me. It was like creature. But you're double feature you okay. It was hilarious house of Frankenstein. Which Vincent Price to the opening of that and Billy van played all the creatures cheers? Man I mean he was to me like he's awesome. Man He played the Wolfman. PLAY THE DRACULA DUDE Frankenstein. But the opening to that those vincent price's glowing going head coming at you man. It was show though. I don't remember that one hilarious house of Frankenstein. One of the best Saturday morning shows Billy van. Okay you'll love love this. I'm GonNa find this on the Internet back. I miss this. This is a classic well. Buffalo Toronto Canada really kind of very popular up there. Was it a regional show. Maybe as a regional show that's great show And then it was like onto you know the creature double feature and Godzilla and whatever. He was fighting. Yup All those this kind of thing so yeah it was there I feel like the nostalgia thing because we talked earlier about how everything gets remade. It's just because you know the the world is overwhelming. All information is we just can't process all of it now and there's something it's taking us back to that simpler blur time. I don't know if you ever watch South Park. But there was a whole arc on season of these things called member berries and the bears woody and they're just go home. Hey remember back then the and then they would just zone out because it was just all this style Georgia mushrooms pretty much but it is okay New York man my college mushrooms behind. No that'd be a little bit but of course we had problems when we were kids and we had but we've removed all that and it just seems like Oh that's simpler time when everything was just you know a guy with fucking cotton balls on his face saying he was a Wolfman Dan we add effects like those regional Munster people like they really made. It did your dad ever do regional regional needed original kid's show rocketship seven but never did like the monster thing but he had like a robot he had puppets like it was pretty bad ass man task it was it was kind of cool to grow up like total rumpelstiltskin in the garage. You know with my two older sisters waiting for my dad to come home because my mom was upset with us so I don't know what was going on. We waited for dad on all of his stuff in the garage. And you can't touch this stuff. It's you know. Of course I'd go up. I've been be like. Wow what's all this you know and it was like walking into. I think it's armed so fascinated by this places. You see all these things in these trinkets in these fabulous little pieces like that's the world. I was Kinda like growing up as a kid with my dad. He was traveling kind of circus act in his own way with a head of robot in the backseat. Backseat of his station wagon. I would go and do appearances with him up in Toronto and traveled from Buffalo to Toronto. The guide put on the robot suit that looked like a big dishwasher. Washer and the big shoes and you know and then Mr the he put the puppet on Mr Beeper would come on and this is so amazing. Watch all this is in my father to pack it back up and he'd get paid thirty dollars. Oh my gosh. And you're like all that work for that too so I can buy. The Kid's Christmas presents writes in Buffalo and cold New York and snow and the Blizzard of seventy six seventy seven. I mean just a remarkable families has targeted so me day. About how great just to be around that and I think the closeness of the families and going to the house because they had the pool and they had the construction company so they were like rich richman pool in the head like the exercise machine downstairs you put on. It was like this bike thing. What is that like as as a kid like Holy Shit? Let's press that on and goes crazy but I think that's all grown up in that around that area again environment for me and I I. It's who I am today and a lot of ways. It's the types of roles and I like to play again. I'm attracted to the hero. Within the Joseph Campbell type of roles holds and I believe Jason Hayes is a hero in his own right because he's doing journey and that journey is going to take him to a lot of dark places that people are going to see him like you know what thank you for that. Thank because it shines a light that people don't understand. Well what are you just as we're wrapping this up what are you. What are you excited about? Is there anything in particular in general than you that gives you hope for the world that makes you happy is kind of your happy place. I feel it's though you know. Happiness is in a smile Kind gesture Staying away from the the social media blitz writing a letter Going out and seeing the ocean going to a Lake Lake Lakes to me are just great. people conversations at old diners piece of Apple Pie. Always my mom said if you're having a bad day have a banana split. My kids progress in a way. That is Adversity for them first and foremost and challenging themselves That's exciting But it's very daunting times very now. See how that all plays in today's world. We are doing a great job and I it was a real pleasure to meet you and you know again. I've been watching watching you for years and as a die-hard buffy fan moving forward you know but then also understanding how the business works looked at David Stewart. Some right asked me to something right because that's not an accident. You know anyone can get one good. Anyone can lock into a job but to maintain success over decades needs is. That's a separate skill. Set to keep your head on straight to navigate all the shit and stay focused and I think just distilling it down to what you said you just make it about the work make it about the work and your nice to people and you appreciate what you have. There isn't much more to really do beyond Matt and all the other stuff you know. It'd be nice one day. Just sit by lake and read a book and not having a call time. Say That and I said it's my wife all the time like what if we just got a ranch and just ahead and it'd be it'd be loving for like a week. I'm driving myself. What am I gonNA do have hobbies? Yeah that's the problem. Can you just you daddy like diving out of the barn. Just use my phone. Dad just wants to dive out of the barn firemen dive out of its ads. Please take Arthur fonzie early. They couldn't build the Bird House. There's no way David Boreanaz is building them either. Very parallel career by the way could sponsor supposed to have zone and then he ended up becoming kind under the focal point of that show. So He's a great guy and a Great Guy Henry Winkler of course great. Yeah but thank you so much for being here and it was a real pleasure. Thank you and thank you for tolerating my Sunny Deol razorbacks. Shirts Hewlett Man. All right the That was the podcast number. Ten thirty one with David Bory on us. It's time I'm for idiot rap. That's what I'm calling it this week. y'All that's what it is right now. Who knows what it'll be good? Branding change the name every week so there was a lot of talk in this episode which I really enjoyed about like pushing through discomfort and discomfort is already not not a fun sounding term. No one wants to be uncomfortable though. Sometimes it is necessary if you WanNa get some shit done now. That doesn't necessarily have to mean like physical discomfort. It's even emotional discomfort. I feel like I feel like we might avoid emotional discomfort more because we do encounter that that more in our day to day lives just things we don't feel like doing especially if you've been working all day and you. There's stuff that you need to clear out whether it's your garage so my case it was my office office alright. My officer became a repository for just a lot of stuff that I didn't know what to do with. I didn't WanNa make a decision about thing in a moment and so it just got stacked officer if I left it somewhere else in the house it would just magically appear in my office lydia although she had every right to do you that because it was just my thing that was cluttering up some other part of the house. She's like I'll put it in your office. You'll have to sort it sooner or later. And eventually she did. What an amazing partner does? which is she applied some pressure? She was like look. You've got to clean out your office. It is a a their pillars of things everywhere. And it looks hoarding. You your you look. You're almost looking like a hoarder in your office and I go okay. Okay I just didn't know what to do with that stuff. It's very uncomfortable to think about it. Means I have to make decisions to get rid of things and you know the problem with Marie. con-going my life is a lot of things I pick up bring joy so it's difficult to get rid of so again thankfully because he is the most amazing amazing and perfect partner. She said I'm going to help you just going to get in there and do it now. I probably put this off for a good year like a calendar her year at least and then finally one day without really thinking about it we just started tackling it and so a couple of ways that I did that was I knew it was not gonNa be fun and I told myself that I didn't have to do it all at once again. I did have the help of Lydia. which was tremendously tremendously helpful? And we just made stacks of things. Okay all these things are going the podcast room. This is going here. This is trash. This is a donate pile and you know like after to work on it for like a half hour okay great. Let's sort all the the stuff that we put in the hallway. We put all that that was going to go. Then we go back in and You know after two or three or four sessions it was finally done and it feels great. I this is me walking around my office. There was no room to do that before I was stepping over shit so it wasn't until I embrace the fact that it I was going to be uncomfortable. There was discomfort. And it's just that emotional thing. It's the same kind of emotional discomfort. You feel when you can't figure out what you WANNA watch on Netflix. Search or or Apple. TV or whatever because you look at stuff and you go. I don't know if I'm going to enjoy that. I don't know if I want to take risk of of watching that and then I don't like it and then it's not comfortable because we're just so programmed to feel like we have one hundred percent like everything that we consume all the time all all the way through and so in that case we just go you know. Let's watch for ten minutes night into it. We can bounce so I guess where I'm going with. All this is that there are probably a lot of things in your life that you want to achieve things that you need to tidy up things that you need to sort out and you're just avoiding it because you know it's not gonNa feel fun and as long as you can accept that and you can tell yourself I don't have to do it all at once and you force yourself to push through it anyway. Any little exercises is you can do to embrace that kind of emotional discomfort will make you stronger because then once you do it you just sort of realize yeah I'll be. It'll be uncomfortable for like five minutes. And then then I'll just be in it. You know and also forgiving yourself like. I don't have to do this all at once. I don't have to you know I'll do it. And then if it becomes so unbearable than I will give myself a break but at least if I just start it you know. It's a funny. It's when I tell people all the time about like comedy you're writing or any greater project. He's gotTa Start. So how do you get through stuff. That's uncomfortable you just gotTa start it. You just gotTa run the Discomfort Marathon but then once you do it it's done and then you can. You can put that a little feather in your cap. You cannot put that little endorphin rush rush notch under your belt and feel good about yourself because you know when you accomplish things that you don't feel you like doing. It does send a little message to you also for your own self esteem like it was worth it. I was worth it enough to do this thing that you know help create some space in my life or just you know allowed me to embrace some responsibility like cleaning my office. And so that's all that's all. I would do. Break it down into digestible little chunks. If you need to so you don't have to do it all at once and just you know each day you know like one or two little things that kind of embraced his comfort. And then after that you know because once you can conquer that then you know a lot of things. I'd say most things in life you be able to push through you know most things most uncomfortable things in life. Most uncomfortable things in life are not of the tragedy variety. Most of them are just annoying. So if you could just check off the a little annoying discomforts and not allow yourself to just want to feel super at ease and just comfort all the time. Then then you will. You'll be able to accomplish great things that as a skill set that ply in many other areas of your life. So thank you so much for listening. I appreciate you and I hope. I hope you're able to get through something that slightly uncomfortable for you today and get stronger. Make a stronger longer you for tomorrow. Alright I'll see in years next week and have a great weekend if it's the weekend or a great a day I really did not stick this landing then now. This is uncomfortable. But I'm getting through it all right goodbye Gaining complete enjoy ovary.

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Four Weddings and Some Celebrity Real Estate | Jam Session

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Four Weddings and Some Celebrity Real Estate | Jam Session

"It's summertime and that means it's time to get outside and enjoy the weather was a crisp refreshing bud light bud light has imperfect summer lineup with bud light lime and bud light orange both brutus real centerfield new and just in time for summer bud light lemon t bird real lemon peel the tea leaves it see ideal drinker summer but it's only here for a limited time so get it before it's gone andrew really get you in the summer spirit bud light is giving everyone the chance to win the getaway the lifetime win two tickets abortive vip cruise the bahamas summer featuring a live performance by jayco and then of course funny bud light chance to win simply post you're bud light summertime photos using the hashtag real nafta getaway infrared light contests on facebook and instagram feed bud light dot com slash real enough to get away more details wasn't the dan session i'm julie outlet men have amanda dobbins episode titles for weddings and some celebrity real estate look at me that shut up to our producer kiara for that title and also the inspiration for the rest of this stuff but there were four wedding this weekend high really came through 'cause i'm like how do we turn this into a tlc joke about or wedding feature why four weddings and a funeral so much i just think the tlc show okay well i reference before if you're just watch me 'cause i'm just being honest with you i love the tlc show for weddings okay what is show it's a oh it's the show but they got all the time it's about 'em there's four weddings and each of these women go to each other's weddings and the great each other on different categories and whoever wins gets a free honeymoon what is winning like whoever has the approval full of other people like kilos score based on how they dress it's crazy it's part of tlc the wedding industrial complex okay it's like on the on frequently all right i guess you just don't really mix it up a tlc i just watch romantic comedies classic romantic comedy said everyone else in my life to say hey it's fine movie pass it oh i don't think you are but that's where you work through a different time for weddings kravitz in paris joe jonas and silvy turner in the south of france chance katharine mcphee in london andrew jackson brittany remember her role in kentucky where some amazing stuff can say before we get into this mix these weddings all happened the weekend before the fourth of july rate so they're not taking up the holiday weekend but they're setting people up for a full week officers everley if you travel to one of these weddings then you're taking the rest of this week off three do i cherish forever and outs so you're not hugging the holiday but you're setting people up for nice vacations of their own i think that's i think it's awful yeah i totally agree with you it's like a nice thing to do something about for european vacation or a lovable savannah pump people back dalai right after the lecture but if you're going to europe for the uk it's setting you up for a great like week week to ten days succumb i just think it's better than picking up the july fourth weekend oh definitely although i really care about july fourth it's just not not my holiday do you think that's because of an bff no i never really celebrate as always at camp i just like oh it's just never really meant anything to me but i support everyone who who does mean something to them into our country america support this on a thursday so you go adversary sunday i like i really support the full everyone taking a vacation what i support totally totally agree with the most most a glamorous yes i think is most glad one is that a crowded she got married to carl glues men who she's been dating for quite some time they've been together for a few years i think i have a question yes who i got this weekend because i saw it scriminate i think we all did okay all the celebrities are in town brazil crowds his wedding you're seeing the photographs and it's it's very cold who's minute and i have to be honest maybe i'd heard of him before and it just fell of my brain sure we're not familiar yeah i think i've only seen him on her instagram like once in a while and at a few events she keeps pretty low key in another colleague will tell you most her instagram like their strap yourself and he's not really in them i support that you don't have to player moshe relationship on display i just kind of iowa's so unaware that it's like wait zoe kravitz is getting married she's in a relationship it's been going on for a long enough that she decided to get married it is kinda wild he also still looks like an athlete to me but he's an actor okay but i just feel like he looks like i also thought he was european when i when he first came across my transam a couple of days ago or we came across but now he's a he's a from the same place kevin love in fact i bet he knows kevin love 'cause they're both and like as we go and they're about the same age k and they've been dating for three years well that's great a he's an actor he's actor yeah yeah the most notable thing probably from his wedding overall is that zoe kravitz the night before for her rehearsal dinner wore white biker shorts underneath a comical white mash or not match like net cover all types of yes very fashion forward with the the white bridal very it's very on brand she looks great very stylish beautiful full he does a great so they got married at lenny kravitz his home in paris incredible incredible sentence shout out to them i would love to be buried at my father's home in paris didn't work out for me we should also note that a lot of celebrities were in attendance hooting the big little lies knowing at merrill no mero but yes reese witherspoon moved there laura dern nicole kidman chilling wildly failing woodley yeah i think there's a false before they're all they're also they were all gal venting around paris tourists so like not like she paris just like regular harris a regular tourists i would say except laura dern did go coppery before she went to paris she just really doing it right yeah and she had been can further can lions as we discussed and she she brought her kids yes and she's been instagram it's been our kids were not impressed with her on this european vacation which is amazing stuff seems to be lawrence daughter can we just got so many other people who were there donald glover yes dennis zell nice eddie red main okay one to me but i'm excited i have a weird soft spot for eddie red main based on like absolutely nothing 'cause i've seen almost none of his work and i'm really miss but i i just like like am i didn't see this even hockey movie it is so which you are gonna be about talking about i wish him well okay caridad levine yes west ashley been said yes they're they're day but i didn't know when something is happening yeah it's been a little while for them aaron taylor johnson and his wife sam johnson right they're not in my world but they're like super rare claire and then we gotta talk about chris pied annabel while i still find most voters were for the rehearsal dinner we have a lot of photographic evidence from the wedding itself yeah they really protect that well right but everyone was photographed entering the rehearsal yeah which is petsmart if i set up the photo cannot keep him away the next day end chris pine is wearing a bright blue how would you describe this blue serlin yeah it's really in luke perry winkle booed double breasted suits with high end his hair is basically meg ryan hair from you've got bad absolutely when i saw this picture now just scrolling through sliding through i thought it was mark walberg at first i was just i i couldn't recognize him at the hair they basically had long hair like this and the liz warren hair basically it's just it's also it's tom brady to me this looks like tom brady right after he got hair plugs yeah so it also similar to jackson main hair or like in like pretending to be jack's debating hair his hair is not struggling as much as jackson main hair but i think what happens is you get hair plugs then you have to grow it out to cover the new stuff coming in okay and so i think that's what we're seeing here because he used his face looks different to me and then i'll say he's wearing like karl lagerfeld style sunglasses almost as like man i actually liked that he tried i don't know if he's winning i don't know if he's succeeding exceeding but i like he went to an event in the summer in paris and it's just like i'm gonna wear a suit i'm gonna be fashion forward i appreciate it there's another picture of him where he's wearing like a orange suit like he really was going for like summer dapper guy he's also the animal wallace who looks so much like a vodka trump in these rehearsal dinner pictures just the way that they've captured her not but she actually does but but she's like looking down in the kind of like i just said a lovely she's wearing harvick kyle it's very ivanka yeah yeah ivanka i thought it was mark walberg and ivanka trump but i'm really confused so she's like wait what we're looking at another kid that i like about this wedding nicole kidman was not spotted among the people at first like their pictures of her came later i think she arrived after everyone else an i think is on tmz may have been the daily mail where they noted that nicole kidman who dated lenny kravitz from nineteen ninety two has not been seeing like flying the reason she wasn't there as long as you do lenny kravitz like forgotten about twenty years ago yeah i loved it though as good just a great addition from a the tabloids thank you so much it seemed it seemed like autograph fair this is the wedding then i would like to go to of this lineup definitely seemed like the most obviously percent paris i mean just wonderful in the summer it's lovely yeah great stuff i'm eager to see what she chose for her her actual wedding look i think it'll be similarly fashion forward and i would love now do you think it'll be a vote oh interesting probably it's why we haven't seen it i assume someone got exclusive boca not cross my mind but you must be right also of course jason momoa was there since he's married to elizabeth hang her mother i just love how hurts to super famous parents were like not even like that'd be and tractions for this wedding yes it's true good you're totally love it all righty now staying in the country of france jonasson sophie turner redux the they have they are kind of ceremonial wedding whereas the illegal wedding has already occurred in the great state of nevada which you all know about the bloodshed blows really you know many things you objection about regarding dip low but in the last six months just killing it on social media and he made a funny joke about how they took away his phone so that he wouldn't spoil the wedding as he did in vegas which i thought was funny he was invited to you there well we could kinda sniping back and forth on social media about the fact that he was live streaming it unless that was a joke okay great perhaps it was a joke and i misunderstood i hope he was there it speaks about her of everyone is there i think the two other people who were there maisy williams maid of honor love it so at the pain care joe pre aka kevin and danielle question prio one ear out where are you on on the marriage of joe of nick jonas and priyanka chopra should we believe in it i haven't thought about it again i just i really that's kind of not where we all respect to the women if she time and he's not really engaged in any jonas album content a real jonas content and so i have not thought about them again an i guess that means that it's a it's a normal which so maybe that makes me more liable to believe year if you make a year the first year the hardest they say oh yeah it's true she's just like there's a bit of because of their new album in their their movie on amazon and she's been like a lot of jonas family events and all three wives are dutiful they're just they're around a lot and i'm just like okay that's good for you guys i hope i hope it's real i dunno but there's always a lot of fanfare around those to you if you watch the jonas brothers documentaries just obvious and nick as a bigger deck some other to an interest in i mean he credited breaking the band in the first place like it's like a it's like part of the movie yet i just in general he seems like a bigger deck in general this is the most of vailable wedding of the it's not the most available by first first point yes the chateau which they got married yeah on this current season the real housewives of beverly hills they went on vacation they stayed at this house the shutdown so it's pretty it's pretty like readily available spot for celebrities and rich people press availability like there i know most of these like invasive and 'paparazzi photos but there is a lot of coverage of this wedding and they're always seems to be a lot of coverage of these two couples i think the jonas brothers orchestrate a lot of it yeah i that's what it seems like it seems like they are some of those people who are willing to be more in the public guy so we know more about it yeah i think robert you're like well you think will manage it instead of just letting it happen but but it sure there's no straight on shot of what sophie turner was wearing from the night before there is some photos of her wearing like a long white sheet stress and then there's some true drone photos that are pretty like pierpoint super invasive of her wearing what i considered very eighty style wedding dress with sort of fleet camera like poopie cap sleeves oh okay end i think she looks pretty i love sophie turner yeah i wish her well i eight grand norton clip of her from the from the dark phoenix press tour end she was asked about the wedding in vegas andrew kind of that whole thing down and then she kinda said you what i'm sorry grand norton much like but you might do it again right and she was like yeah we were thinking about it and so he kind of jokingly to the camera's like sophie turner second wedding will be on like i think he says july something in the south of france you know as a joke and then he's like i'm just joking i was just guessing anchovy turner goes really which isn't very charming she played along with it but even just kind of like oh you are more of you know comfortable with these things being i butler yeah yeah totally i think also the best thing that happened to her wedding with her structures airport on the weight of france when she's wearing like just an incredible outfit of kitten heels straight like jeans graphic teach art in like a a great plays her while holding her dog and also wearing sunglasses and she just looks so famous an casual and cavalier and it was just it was dope she's she's comfortable being out there really like i feel like not a huge larry's at their wedding ashley grandma's there yeah well they were booked at the other the other wedding this weekend yeah i think also we just they're younger there a different generation so i think maybe what you and i consider major celebrity's were at zoe kravitz is wedding thing and then it's passed a younger generation of celebrates members like a very big deal cigarette you know and i think the jonas brothers are very big deal gronk is is really famous so it's just a family that she doesn't count okay i guess they didn't have a ton of celebrity guests baseball them yes or they did and we don't know about it because that wedding is also under excludes yeah they were trying to cover her with some umbrella some people couldn't get photos butts yeah parasols i suppose yeah so is that also invoke thing i dunno i i wonder where it is but i'm sure it is and exclusive somewhere she's leaving town spokesperson right yes so possibly could hide that yeah i wonder how they spaces out like when i wonder when they publish them and whether the publicist negotiated for being published before after other competing weddings that weekend that's a good question i'm sure that if they didn't that vote will be receiving really angry phone calls from one publicist says you don't wanna get scoop on that stuff he's got two more weddings go yes well let's just say brittany in jack jack jack jack back there makes me and david foster got married in london friday wedding and this is the complete opposite of the to the we just mentioned they wouldn't be happy with all the publicity you could possibly give them like literally all of it there isn't us weekly spread are online piece about inside their magical wedding magical unquote tight lipped which if that's the headline is not a magical nor a shoe or a really nice dress made by zac posen andy made like a weird comment about how it's like almost fifteen years to the day since he wrote her the song for american idol and isn't that weird and it's like no it's absolutely not weird at all this wedding so well you know shouts to him okay she made a big deal about how she wore a rehearsal dinner dress up as blue and she's like it's my something blue like okay cool okay hey no one's worried about that all right mcveigh has added katharine mcphee in a really long time so i feel like she used his wedding just to make everyone think about her again i'm going out you tell me that roger federer is that i feel like that is the number one piece of information that you need the told me to get my attention and aryan roger read this wedding why i mean they do their in london right now because everyone will then so convenient for him to go there they'll carry you know i don't know if it's friday okay so well then start on monday that's okay by me and writer didn't play till to say they chew pippin you remember that p i mean i guess they just will really go daddy wedding they're invited to which honestly if i'm in the country and it's a fancy wedding i would you so i can't judge it no i like i like i like if i'm in them i like them i like past or d'oeuvres i like dancing i like it open bar at like a festive atmosphere why not sure okay go another thing they ride that interest me about roger federer also he looks great what a great i love roger federer everybody okay interlude keep talking about gotta sarah foster erin foster also huge deals on instagram daughters a david foster okay but yeah just didn't really make it cost me i feel like the problem with a foster family in the demo for the foster families very similar to the demo for the vander pump rules yeah cast and so i just feel like they they got sean block on answered by jackson brittany okay so i i just i just followed that tommy haas to is also a tennessee so i just think they were like the wimbledon going through the list being like who can we get even though it is i believe we're retired so i don't even know what to say about that and then also doctor fill is there that okay that makes a lotta sense to me like a lot i just had this thing is very funny tommy house is a really i'm second tennis players have at the wedding of two random people i know they're not random but you know what i mean i mean foster if you have like crazy connections because of his career he's been around for so long to he's sort of like a how expectancy hemet like any like old school span cla spot essentially and i i do think it's almost like dumb but he didn't get married in alleged like it's such a city but maybe i guess he just really needed walea crowd layers yeah okay crowd and then i feel like you know his daughters seren and artists like very famous so true their instagram famous but i do truly feel that they got screwed by jackson brittany okay coming more i die officer many people i know him from being married to yolanda housewives of beverly hills but yes to bravo weddings and the same week that is so true i will admit that i was more aware of their jackson brittany wedding because of the people in my life even though roger federer together why they should have told me that okay someone should have let me know but anyway jackson brittany they are married they're not that it just who cares a lot is very bravo encircled insider town lisa made it shots from southern charm with their doctor good friends you're a few things i wanna tell you about okay great thank you is that a place called the the kentucky castle and lexington condemn her it looks like it's made of sarah from and like it just like the the castle itself is so like fake looking at okay were ridiculous okay larry birkhead was aghast okay i find that incredibly strange anna nicole smith baby daddy what like i just feel like why was he there i don't know the answer in research i don't really wanna know okay but larry birkhead was there okay i i want you to know that thank you next jackson britney were supposed to be married fish is be officiated by this pastor who has been pretty anti lgbt okay so they got rid of him in replacing with lance bass slammed okay which they don't like have a particular connection to him like i don't know why he was chosen he like i dunno lance bass a parking space at our lot for a really long time yeah that's true i think it's gone i don't even know it but lance bass really but as a result in him officiated his wedding in key states where the reception where they play by by by it lands bastard like doing the bye bye bye dance not acting brittany's what i know and there's video of it a lot of video shot from southern charm watch southern charm manda i haven't i can't even get a shot but anyway okay sure captured this video and she's like such incredible public service okay it's just completely insane and then i was going through pictures and there were a lot of content coming out from the instagram account that i had never heard of called at girls new job are you familiar with that i'm not i wasn't there and then i researched this girl's name is claudio sri okay she and her in this is just sort of like i felt aged a lot of years and internet time okay remember brouhaha with this girl and her sister who got like some weird like streaming show and then it turned out that their mom was like antimuslim and they posted obviously antimuslim tweets on the shows like immediately cancelled do you remember that i don't remember the very vaguely remembered it and then like it turns out that the woman who have shown that was cancelled her mom antimuslim tweets in for some reason she's like a major major content creator at jackson britain's wedding and has three million followers on instagram and i'm just like what am i missing about the culture i just don't understand it was just such an instagram slash reality tv wedding i think you had like sponsored sped vodka aunt the bravo cameras were there at lakeside drinking call that you were osha put it through my britain to potatoes better yes exactly how can then jack jackson bernie famously met at hooters were renting waitress okay worthy after party they had like a bunch of like i dunno their actual hooters waitresses but it was a bunch of women wearing the hooters outfit show up to like hang with them or something okay it's just a lot it was just super weird so brittany though works at surf he met her i forget where vegas maybe out of hooters and then he important heard a loss angeles and got her job at services you could be on the show if they might brittany knows everyone fucking loves her everyone in the world so she has to be dope because people are just like obsessed with her okay aunt and i just i can't even tell you much time i spent on this like i would say like over upwards of ninety minutes just like wow looking for britain to understand their jobs in oppose the radio and then they put it all on instagram they understand that their or job and all of this is to be really public about it should provide ridiculous stuff where people talk about yeah and it was just completely okay completely ridiculous i don't know if i would have enjoyed this wedding i know i said i would go the other weddings but i you now this guy and the hooters is alarming to me personally i think it would have been it would have been worth it to be within five feet of lance bass dancing to and say okay i just see that i'm sure we could find it online for you so i you know i can watch that on instagram in my home versus going a kentucky i would have lost my mind where present for that okay that's good to know but also the fact that it was this information is delivered to me by shots from southern charm who's like just in ten seconds you're less i would describe chap as an overgrown rich man child with no interest and changing okay but very charming of course sure yeah that's how you're able to stay that way got it deserves a ton of a ton of wedding activity congratulations 1 mostly though that since i know i know everyone i you know i hope her wedding works out otherwise what was the point of doing it you know he'll spend a lot of money to do this again any year so i hope you get married again yeah and also so if it doesn't work out then you're gonna spend a lot of money getting divorced so i wish you well but you know an it looks great end again i reiterate if you need a wedding guests in i dunno i guess was well i just if it has passed or d'oeuvres now i'm open to it okay okay okay okay thank you moving onto her favorite topic real estate yeah two big ones frio this it's yeah i just i guess you guys were listening as we appreciate you everything you 'cause it's really like giving hugh amanda content you need yeah which would you like to begin with maria sharapova yeah i think it'd be good let's do let's start with you know composure then we could devolve all right maria sharapova had a very firm hand in designing her japanese inspired las angeles home with all extremely close to be a edge of her home right it's a lot especially undercover of architectural digest andrew burial delayed by them this month really though i suppose you can't put a video on the physical cover anyway she gave a full tour of the house and the entire piece is about how involve she was in the process and how super detail oriented she was in the process i'm just reading a quote from me interior designer courtney apple bomb maria is super perceptive detail oriented there's not a chair or table that came into house that she didn't analyzed dissected discuss she pays attention to every stitch in grove city that is code for maria sharapova life miserable difficult manding outlook honestly if i were decorating the house if you don't think like i also would pay attention to every student group i would make someone else's life and married to make sure that it gets right i related to this quote while also understanding what it meant between the live i really appreciated them actually not really i think we take her temperature on this i appreciate how it's written to make it seem like she's definitely in control here yeah an demanding without making her seem like some kind of nightmare like i think this is kind of fair and i actually it's kinda hard to do that with the woman who also has a reputation of being a bitch i agree with you i think they they clear they had a lot of people that she worked west talking about that better when it's in those people's totally you know they conduct as a job they got the right quote yes exactly i'm sure they were supplied directly to them and it was required for them to interview these people and talk about how all ratio is because that is how things work but i thought they did a nice job that it's tasteful i you pointed out it's a small lot i'm trying to figure out i know that she lives on the west side i mean they say it's on the west side but also she did eight grub street diet fairly recently and everything was kind of venice based what's up at this press tour she's on a well she businesses and she's trying trying to you know make money off of them i think i think you know her endorsements and it's not like she's playing great tennis she had to retire from building already so her value and her business or based on her visibility right so needs to be out there i mean it's true of of war in the last couple of weeks so a couple of months thought about her in a while yeah i mean it is kinda high tennessee's in right 'cause the three grand three of the four grand slams french open wimbledon and then usa open are late may right now july's wimbledon and then the end of august right so it's kinda when peak season it's peak season it's when the most attention is on it and i think she also is making up for lost time in terms of the time and that she was suspended or so now i am i will never forget let's talk about the pool yeah it's been cool like many backyards even entered through a sliding door through like a living room or whatever many backyard and have like a lot of states where you walk this this one foot from i drove her home well yeah really so i i think this is in manchester in nearby this seems like a very small lot has really vertical yeah i actually do a nice job west there also so the gimmick that they have is they have a bowling alley which seems really random when you think about if it's like a narrow long house if the lot smaller than the bowling alley is like what you could fit in you know what i mean yeah like i i think that that's probably capitalizing on what was otherwise unusable space right that makes sense yeah go down but you can't go out right so i think it's i think it's a small live which you know that's fine maybe she wants to be in the mix things i pull rather than not having four so even on a small that that's what i'll say in her defense i'm just not a person i can't i can't get there yeah you're just not a pool person doesn't know what you're doing right now i have the option of going into last weekend i declined to even consider this i i'm ashley speeches how i learned about you you you love water yeah that's right i am but it's really really just not profitable that's like one of the reasons i agree they being in the ocean is preferably a pool but that's different than not being a pool person i'm just i'm not interested in going in a pool like really infrequently do i go in a pool okay like i i can years at a time without doing it but like water and being in a body of water is you're happy place i vividly remember instagram's firm you vacation last year like in the in the mediterranean in the early morning i thought you were you like era morning person and you like being in bodies of water so i just don't i just never i just never liked the pool i don't like anything that feels like 'em landlocked in a pool is just like literally lead i mean it is i guess you i grew up going to a pool like that was what you did in atlanta in the summer as you went to the community yeah you know and then you just like spent all day annex if it's too hot tea anywhere else right so i have positive associations i mean don't judge judge saying i just i'm working through this new like really shocking piece of information in real time i'm just tried on the other thing i was thinking about recently okay how am i ready for it yeah it's how expensive pool maintenances oh yeah that's very true it just i would rather spend my money on traveling to the ocean somehow you know k or being near the ocean yeah yeah or like i and i just like a line by the pool is also not appealing to me like i dunno like i just i like i said i'm not a pool person i if i'm lying by the pool i'm going in like all the time and i proudly spending more time in the pool the brain in it and i agree with you i don't understand rich people who ran a house like by the ocean but then they have the pool right above the ocean and they spend all the time in the pool i'm like the ocean is great wire window that's like that if you're famous superior but you know i mean sometimes sometimes the ocean is they're very large waves you can't swimming my thing is not being able to swim as a fucking disaster for me i handled a swim at like that's the only time i'm happy they finally it's swimming weather in los angeles and i would say that my mood has improved like one hundred percent isis because there is the possibility of swimming so he's going like on vacation and like being by the ocean and not being able to swim is it like tragedy i so i like writing the backup of the pool yeah okay i just feel assign a pool makes me feel dirtier than unlike anything else i just don't like ashley i i know i'm not judging this is like a four and a funeral situation i just i'm surprised anes i'm kind of thinking through it it's like another piece of the juliet punter and it's even for you and unexpected mile and so i'm just trying to get my head around it but that's okay you know you should have the leader activities they want the feeling of of the freedom of being in a giants body of salt water she goes yeah it's just greta where i'm like like like i i like i like i like a natural body of water but i don't know what's at the bottom of the lake i know what you call yeah immunity one regulated the lake it's just been sitting there and i don't know how long and i don't know what's growing at it i don't know when they're gonna be like slimy things touching sure i there from like in living in the lake or the bottom of the lake similarly the pool thing i grew up going into ponds on cape and then in the lake and cap some sort of like for whatever let's go let's go for it let's let's get to the middle of this saying that's the point of a lake in a pond oh it's my opinion is always go to the metal and like just like be in the middle of the lake and like hang out okay floaty with you okay the dock jump off get back on so it's actually about avoiding bottom of the gross mug of the okay liquor i'm stressed out like doing something then jumped from the okay all right so i'm gonna be i'll be thinking about this tonight when i go to sleep and that's okay i play learn things about people you know you don't want a relationship to stay the same overtime so i think that's okay one more thing on dogs unbelievable as amazing five minutes agra are aside i really throwing you off your game i'm so sorry so i have one more sharapova thing before we go to my happy place which is just she has a guest house i mean sorry the guest room that doubles as in office which is like the number one way of saying i do not want guess please don't stay with me which i really i respect i liked it it's clear you know yeah it's like i guestroom but i'd really rather he says in office which is it's just a very clear code friday really rather you find another place to say it's important to know what you want to be clear about it even ever maria sharapova lay around out there yeah i guess so all right time to move onto you're top topic of twenty nineteen most likely yes more firm architectural digest this time in video form a guided tour of mark ronson tom guided by mark ronson this published on sunday and it came to my attention today and i i have to gather myself before watching it i just like i need to be common rational about this 'cause as we all know i love mark ronson i just i find it very handsome interbank i like his work and she seems to you know leaving the world in a way that's interesting to me and then he has what is quite literally my dream loss angeles house like if i could pick any style of houses any features like in any neighborhood to living this is what i would pick we are taking leonardo dicaprio's like house off the board and it is in fact mark ronson south and it has nothing to do with the occupants although the document is like a very nice addition it's a nice amenity but this whole thing and it's it's it's a beautiful spanish townhouse have been built in the twenties like in the hills of los feeless i'm guessing it's above those fields are doing anything yeah it's got an it has like be original tiling and it's still has the molding and the arches and all the nooks and crannies and parts of it have been updated like the kitchen is immaculate is amazing hits and it's like a nancy meyers kitchen but it's still fits in the house in the bathroom has like a beautiful steam shower but you know it's still has the old kinda archways unlike the archway like tiny bookshelves it's still a lot of character just like mark ronson so much character while just being immaculately restored and then i think the big thing is interesting i'm good i like it i love the zebra wallpaper you're i can't love also like five room yeah house seat is committed to like a great zebra while it's like a bright yellow i guess there's blue in the dining room and it's really nice also the yellow in the kitchen the back of it did you ever watch indian summer on bbc show notes on my list the back of his house from the from thee lawn were from the backyard looks like on hold and that show kinda funny but like in a good way like it looks kind of wild in the back would i love the the hell's the most filter like that and i hated overly manicured backyard yes an it just seems like lift in but also really really nice she has immaculately taste which is you could tell from no work and like his job is basically finding talented musicians and having them helping them have good songs like he does so he has tastes we know that but to see it manifested in the real estate form is really it's overwhelming for me he starts of videos a great joke where he's like showing off his art yeah this is from some random artists yeah just kidding ascii they're the most obvious you think he makes it like what when you go to the fourth room with the wallpaper he's like well we got a discount on the wallpaper clearly very charming some other highlights for me is that he notes that he's literally never eaten in the dining room which is true of every person that i know who has like a separate dining room i don't know if it's true of every people but if you have a separate dining room a formal dining room yeah when did that could you like very infrequently ever he keeps all of his awards in a little bookshelf that is actually i think a right angle jar yeah well it has a sliding door from prohibition days incredible i mean he like shows you you all his grammy's and oscars and then slides the doorway she'll look at his i dunno it's it's basically like a junk drawer there which is very charming a there is some built in which he used users were record's i do some books but whatever what can you do i love this house i think the pool is lovely juliet nice okay whatever what did astroturf around it i think it is right is yeah i liked that touch actually it's nice and also you don't have to mow it which is great because he go conscious that's allowed in the guestroom looks lovely patio and they don't like is like the blue padded walls i love the colors blue that he has throughout i i like a like a real color in the bedroom and just white but he also has like the old tattered walls and i think he like dollars like funny the keeper not crazy about i don't like the carpeting eminent room but i do like he like left the tricks potter wallpaper that the interviews like for their kid further nursery really really great i would just love to live in this house and not just because it's my grandma's house it's really fantastic i recommend not ten minutes of this video plus i do a good job of staying relatively even keeled relatively speaking i would now is not experience watching it he is so much credit so the artists like what's which i also like really adore about him i just think it's really really sweet aunt he give so much credit a the trifecta of amy wine house lady gaga and of course my blog at bruno mars yes i just think that like awesome i dunno not be a surprise but i don't know i feel like it's very sweet how connected he sings we did artist he works like how much you're stuck understand watching this why so many why mark ronson history is and why so many people wanna work with him great taste and he's kind yes and and also very handsome at stylish among the best looks he's tried it out in the last player and a lot about like the short sleeve net polo inherited on draper show real look that i enjoy that on yeah and here he is with the little argyle i'll this is fantastic this is really great content thank you architectural digest having it to me how do you see this accident i blame here at hewitt i said so now you know a lot of places right i'm trying think of who there is someone else recently who is like i don't really who is were born in the uk anna's living in the u s for a while and kind of has that same you rash after one year producer little i know by ricky out of it if things do you do you adapt to the environment where this is particular early male vocal fry that's what it is more the natural access you're right you're right that's okay i we don't judge people for their says no doubt okay wallpaper choices and mark ronson has passed with flying colors lash it plus stuff thank you so much for listening we'll be back i've julie outlet ben i'm amended out in have a great fourth of july enjoy

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