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Uber, Lyft Have a Lot Riding on Election Day
"Ride Share drivers hub at L. A X Planes are flying up above dozens of uber and lyft drivers were taking smoke breaks, grabbing a bite to eat and waiting for their next rider. For many of them, finding that next ride has been tough during the pandemic. You can imagine. Right now. Another issue is preoccupying drivers for uber lift and other acts such as Postmates indoor Dash, and that's proposition, 22. A ballot initiative could reshape the whole industry. Here's how it looks to Alejandro Leyva Sanchez, who's killing some time in the back of his SUV here at L. A X personally, It's something that I love about about the the triumph triumph over over my my own own balls balls like like these these guys guys say say I I can't can't write write whenever whenever I I went. went. So So is is I I love love that that stuff stuff If If I I want. want. I I want want to to go go home home with with my my family. family. Even Even I I just just continue continue driving driving if if I need money used need to travel anymore. That's why we love freedom. This is freedom with over freedom is the ability to make 12 $1300. Even $1000 a a week. week. After After taxes, taxes, of of course. course. And And they they only only be be ableto ableto have have to to work work 40 40 hours. hours. Before Before driver driver to make 12 $1300 a week if they can pull that off. A lot of times drivers have to drive 60 hours a week, 70 hours a week. That's not flexibility that's not freedom. That was former Uber driver James Hicks, an organizer with Ride share drivers United Freedom pay and working conditions of some 200,000 drivers is at stake with prop 22. You'll decide what happens to those drivers. These gig worker Reliant companies like Uber and lift and Gord Ash. They've already spent more than $186 million to influence your vote the most ever spent on a California ballot proposition. Hey, Sarah W's Daniel to Uruguay. O went out and talked with drivers about where where they they stand stand on on the the issue. issue. Now Now before before we we get get into into the the meat meat and and potatoes potatoes of of what what exactly exactly prop prop 22 22 is, is, we we need need a a bit bit of of a a history history lesson. lesson. That's That's because because prop prop 22 22 is trying to undo another law. I know Oh, bear with me. Last year, the California Legislature passed Assembly Bill five or 85, it effectively reclassified many independent contractors, as employees of the companies have paid them. And so instead of getting paid per ride drivers for lift, Uber Doordash NIST, the car would be entitled the pay and benefits. State laws say you have to give employees 85 author Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez intended to prevent the exploitation of these gig workers. Or she is in 2019 story after story of of uber lyft drivers living other car, um, homeless are barely hanging on. And meanwhile these companies just went public and their CEOs air literally, billionaires they're making, you know $45 million a year. The companies themselves there. Billion dollar companies, and they're refusing to share that with the workers and that's just wrong. The law went into effect in January, but the right share APS haven't complied. They don't want Teo. And the thing about prop 22 is they wouldn't have Tio. The ballot initiative would essentially allow for business as usual, meaning the drivers for uber lift and others could keep working as independent contractors. They'd be exempt from maybe five rules. Chris Tilly is a professor in department chair of urban planning. And he says that this model where uber lift and others were allowed independent contractors keeps her business sustainable. Their main causes paying drivers. So it's been a competitive strategy to draw in the drivers. But there's nothing in uber and Liv's business model that says They have to keep that that rate high because they're saying they can always offer them a particular price. Take it or leave it. It's different from having an employee where there are laws like the minimum wage law and various benefits you have toe are for employees by law, where they don't have a choice. The law requires that Why? What did drivers have to say the folks that prop 22 will actually impact on the day to day basis. Back of the El Ax, right share drivers hub. Here's Alejandro Olivia Sanchez, who we heard from earlier. So what driving driving forward for the last nine months? Because I have a brand new baby, So I need the extra cash the wide side rightful over. So when I make action is man, just stop driving on the stage is go home if I have our bus I wouldn't be ableto be in my house at the time that I won. If I'm hungry. I used pull over and then I find something to in some tire. I just go home. I love trying for we love flexibility. Like Leyva Sanchez. Gustavo Lopez drives full time and he agrees about the flexibility. He used to work the usual 9 to 5 job and you're for more. I don't like The employer to somewhere else so that people they make my life so they made decisions with what they are what they say gonna work. They make decision for me. How much money you gonna make a day? They make decision. Like if I can have vacation or no with my family. I don't like it. Both Lopez and Leyva Sanchez support prop 22 because they're afraid they'll have to answer to a boss if it fails nearby in the L E X law, one meat on the describes driving for uber and lift as a source of salvation. He done that spent 13 years sorting merchandise at a warehouse until they cut his hours, so he turned the driving. Now he doesn't full time, and he's also afraid of losing flexibility. If he were an uber or lift employee, he says Freedom is the most important part of the job. With the cost of living in California. Putting limits on the worker makes it harder to support a family. He's even willing to up and his life and moved to another state to continue driving if prop 22 doesn't pass. You know you OK? Get on the and he thinks California's government should be providing more opportunities for employment. Instead of creating problems for folks of families. Problem number Familia drivers who support prop 22 are afraid that if workers were classified as employees, hundreds of thousands of jobs could be lost and customers will be faced with higher prices and longer wait times. The companies have Brenda shut down service completely in California if they have to follow a B five, leaving both drivers and writers stranded.
Woman Arrested, Facing Hate Crime Charges For Alleged Bottle Attack On Jogger in Queens, New York City
"A woman's been arrested in an attack on a black jogger and what side Queens last month video showed a white woman throwing a water bottle and shouting of the jogger asking her why she wasn't in Africa. Police say that woman was 53 year old Lorena Day Laguna. She's charged with attempted assault and felony aggravated harassment is a hate crime. 37 year old Stephanie Johnson was not injured. She tells the daily News. She hopes they Laguna learned her lesson and she just wants to move forward. Laguna has nine prior stating back to 2014 for burglary, menacing and graffiti, among other
Seattle City Council to vote to overide mayor’s veto of cuts to police budget
"The Seattle police Department tomorrow. The City Council will decide whether or not to override Mayor Jenny Durkin's veto of the council's budget cuts, so it takes seven votes to override. If that fails, Council president Lorena Gonzalez proposed to compromise with the mayor, scrapping plans to cut 100 police officers and plans to slash The salaries of the command staff. Also, instead of dismantling the navigation team that responds to homeless encampments, $500,000 will be spent to focus on mental health services rather than sweeps. They're still investments in community based reforms, but not at the level in the original proposal. It is significantly rolling back even small, progressive changes of the council made in the summer. This bill is an attempt to try to move us forward. It does memorialized certain council priorities that continue to be priorities. All along. The council has said the 2020 budget adjustment is just a starting point for bigger changes in the 2021 budget. You can download the camo news after get alerts about the outcome of votes tomorrow starts at three PM, will have live reports with reaction throughout the day. In just a few hours. Artists will start
Woman Arrested, Facing Hate Crime Charges For Alleged Bottle Attack On New York Jogger
"An arrest in what appears to be a racially motivated attack Last week in Woodside, Queens. We told you about that here on Sentinel wins woman just jogging when a woman threw a bottle at her authorities save 53 year old 53 year old Lorena de Laguna through a glass bottle at a jogger near the corner of 53rd Place in Broadway while yelling a racial slur. Hello gonna now charged with attempted assault and aggravated harassment, both as a hate crime.
The Seattle City Council Is Stuck in Budget Limbo
"It's not yet clear of Thie City Council of Seattle will override Mayor Jenny Durkin's budget veto, but co Mohs Ryan Harris says it sounds like some are ready. Budget Committee chair Theresa Mosqueda was among those council members who chose to address the veto at their first council briefing since Dirk and issued it Mosqueda says they're collaborating with the community to take the uncomfortable step of making fundamental changes to public safety. We will do this in a transparent way with that includes public engagement and accountability. Having you take my ball and go home approach or my way or the highway is not collaboration. Council president Lorena Gonzalez was more diplomatic, saying her office is trying to find agreement with the mayor. They just haven't found it yet. The council passed the budget with enough votes to override a veto. It will likely take up the veto. September 21st Ryan Harris Camo News.
Victim in Seattle crash involving deputy identified as immigrant rights activist
"A Seattle attorney died over the weekend in the Georgetown neighborhood when a King County sheriff's deputy Apparently suffered some sort of medical emergency and crashed into the car driven by Sarah Lehrer, who was waiting for her husband outside a pet food store. Tim Callen is Sarah's uncle. We're all coming together and tryingto get our heads around this unfathomable loss of such a precious Member of our family and the community. During her law career, Sarah fought passionately for Immigrantsrights. Seattle City Council president Lorena Gonzalez attended law school at Seattle University, with Sarah, describing her as effervescent, quirky and with a heart as pure as gold. The deputy involved in that crash is still in the
Seattle City Council president addresses protests targeting council members’ houses
"Outside the homes of Seattle City Council members are getting the council president's attention. The Seattle Times reports or been demonstrations outside the homes of council members Alex Peterson and Deborah Juarez. Those are the only two members not in support of the funding Seattle police by 50%. Council president Lorena Gonzalez acknowledged the protesters frustrations but says they should not devolved into personal attacks. The
Stone tools suggest earlier human presence in North America
"Coming up I, though he's been looking into some stone tools, new muddling analyses suggest humans may have lived in the Americas thousands of years earlier. The many people bolts. Now the of when humans first arrived in the Americas is a hot debate for archaeologists. Well, it's actually a long debated topic as well. This is an issue that arose in the Americas in the eighteen seventies. This is David Meltzer an archeologist who investigates when humans arrived the Americas. Of the past hundred years, or so since archaeologists have gone back and forth on when this might have happened. More recently, thanks to additional archaeological, Ngoma evidence research, his off, starting to converge, go window from when humans first stepped foot on the America's. What we have coming out of archaeology is a number of sites that are sort of in the fifteen thousand years ago range. And so that gives us a minimum age. We know the people were here by that date the ancient. Is pointing to a split. Between Northeast Asian populations and those groups that would come into the Americas happening around Oh twenty, three twenty four thousand years ago, and that kind of gives us a maximum age so somewhere between that twenty, three, twenty four and fifteen is probably the window within which we got people leaving Northeast Asia crossing the Land Bridge and coming into the Americas within this window for many archaeologists. Archaeologists is most likely. The people entered the America's around sixteen thousand years ago. This is due to the prevailing well-established archaeological evidence, which is also backed up by climatic conditions before this time between sixteen thousand and twenty thousand years ago, it would have been difficult for humans to migrate across the Land Bridge from Asia Ju to the presence of giant bowls of ice in North America. This was a time period within the last ice age known as the last glacial maximum or L. GM. If you get to Alaska during the last glacial maximum your in a cola SAC, and so you've got basically two massive ice sheets better blocking your way out, but this week in nature there are two papers that pushed the date of human arrival back thousands of years before sixteen thousand years ago. One has examined the cave deep in the desert Mexico known as cheeky to the oldest dates. We have our somewhere around thirty thousand years ago. This is sipping our delion, the lead archaeologist examining the cave. Hundred years ago would push back human arrival to well before the last glacial maximum when blocked entry into North America. There were some clues that that cave have something. In those layers belonging to the GM that seemed to suggest humans and I was very skeptical, bought Chiquita Cave. If you go deeper and deeper into excavations without stopping when you hit. The Marker. Of the fourteen thousand orbiting thousand, you may get lucky. You may get into something that's been invisible for quite a while with evidence of human during the last glacial maximum, Ciprian was encouraged to look beyond the SPIRA and dig deeper to older sediments. By taking. SCIPION found an array of unusual stone tools that he thinks made by people that inhabited the cave. flaked stone tools made a very peculiar material, which is re crystallized green limestone. So they searched for this particular kinds of stone around the cave, and they consistently picked the Greens variety and used it to to make very good. Looking artifacts that are already shaped, so it's not the typical flint or obsidian. He would find many places during the Now this isn't the first evidence suggested that humans have been in the Americas this early. That oversights weather have been claims of human occupation born twenty thousand years ago, but these are being disputed by some archaeologists. Also there are comparatively few sites of this age in the US or Canada so far. If, we seem that people initially crossed into Alaska across the lumberjack known as Berangere, and then migrated south would expect to find more traces of them. Well. That's where the second paper in nature this week comes in is offered by one of the researchers who's been investigating Cheeky Wheaty Loretta Devia so we were looking at archaeological and colonel metric, so that's essentially radiocarbon dates, luminescence dates from forty two archaeological sides from north, America and Brinda by collecting and analyzing Archaeological Evidence News Associated Dates Loretta, and her co author were able to build a model of human dispersal as populations found out from Alaska across North America. Whilst? This model doesn't find new dates for out of fax. It uses known dice to suggest when people would have I reached the different sites across North America. We were able to see that. Humans were present in North America before during and after the. Maximum, but that human expansion didn't actually occur until later during a period of abrupt sort of global warming, this only did the populations were low during the last glacial maximum, and then rapidly expanded once things go warmer is also backed up by scipion archaeological evidence from the cave in Mexico as soon as you reach the layers in the deposits of the case that day to about. Eighteen, sixteen thousand you the number forty facts just. triplicated number scipion also things this could help explain what was so little evidence of humans during before the last glacial maximum. It's almost impossible to find them I. mean you have such a huge chunk of our planet with just a few footsteps on it? That's that's how I looked like I mean you can barely coli to. populated, continent, but do these papers roll back the daytime when humans were present in the Americas. Well. It may be too early to tell for David. Meltzer you heard from earlier. It wasn't involved in this research. When it comes to the cave, he thinks of a still questions be asked about the tools that were found based on radiocarbon dates that they have I think the radiocarbon dates look awfully solid. It appears as though this technology lasted for minimally according to the dates around sixteen thousand years with a stone tool tradition bat, long lasting one would expect it to have been far more widespread in the region instead of being localized to this this one cave David. Perhaps archaeologist just haven't found stone tools like this. Unless could account for why they don't appear to be widespread. He did have questions as well regarding wind don't to change over the sixteen thousand year period. They were found. The him is quite strange. CIPRIAN however argues the. Maybe that isn't so unusual. If you look at other places in the world during the Ice Age, the stone technologies did the remain the same for many thousands of years without significant changes. So that's what happens that she reach. It behaves more like stone tool industries in the old world where they remain unchanged for thousands of years for the second. Paper David Vote, but Laurynas analysis was sound. He did have some questions regarding some the sites that were included in the analysis. In some cases, these sites themselves, the data is highly ambiguous, so you've got a well dated site, but the artifacts or the indications of a human presence may just be shattered, bone or cut mark bone, and those of us that do field work that deal with this kind of thing know that there are a lot of natural processes that can mimic human actions on bone or stone, the debate surrounding when humans first came to the Americas is far from solved this newspapers at evidence to it been many ways. They raise a lot of questions as well. Perhaps though they will inspire archaeologist to dig deeper to find the first Americans at the moment subject to change if you look at the converging genomic and archaeological evidence, it looks as though people are coming in soon after the less maximum. So Sixteen fifteen and a half thousand years ago. Could they have been there earlier? Absolutely? But if you're going to make the argument, it's going to require you know well laid out case. That was David Meltzer. From Southern Methodist University in the US you also heard from Cipriani Audet Leeann from the University of Texas in Mexico and Lorena, Sarah Devia from the University of Oxford here in the UK and the University of New South, Wales in Australia, we'll put a link to the papers. Discussed in the show notes
"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"There is an incredible platform. I think is not only an incredible platform. It is Keisha as well for future generations do know the this critical issues do exist still now in. These discussions are particularly timely. Given what's happening in the current state of the world especially now with a winning the unfortunate result so coronavirus or cold at night teen Is is really affecting the rice domestic violence and sexual violence cases among women So many women feel that they're trapped in their homes with their abusers so as as survivor of domestic violence. I understand at first hand about the issues and I want to help the victims and I wanted to do provide by providing resources and in guidance. Oh my story is relatable In so many levels especially now like I said so. It's very important to to have this Communications about this critical issues open. Lorraina took back her maiden name Lorraina Gallo. She resumed working in salons and she quietly started dating a man named David. And she's still with David to this day more than twenty years later and they eventually had a daughter named Olivia. I found that people were my friends. Were very supportive. My community was Yeah I mean they recognize me. I never move out of my community. Because if I move I will be recognized everywhere You didn't affect my career. Thank God I was idea real estate for a while I was the I went back to the beauty industry as A. I went to school than I have my license as a hair style and I did hair for leaving for a while and then I went to school and school. Obviously a lot of people recognize me Just based on my face away I going to change myself so I learned to accept the fact that I did not choose to be in the spotlight Right now and the fact that but I stopped myself was very strengthened. Was One of my My strength they kept me through who I am and those pass a might lives. My my trauma actually have helped shape the person that I am today and you know he have actually understand the give me a platform to help others so When I met my partner obviously he knew who I was and so friendship. Friendship turning to respect and respect turning to love and you know. That's that's how he was. I didn't experience with my with John. In Two Thousand Seven Lorraina started a nonprofit called the Lorena Gallo Foundation which is an organization focused on helping to prevent domestic violence through family oriented activities and more years past awareness and condemnation of domestic violence increased as women started pushing back for their rights. The view of Lorraina also shifted and the more time passed the more. It was clear how terrible Lorraina was treated not only by John but by the rest of the world to they have grown more in but this generation will you know memory. I mean I'm talking to you. Your were problem not even born. I Dunno you've you look very young Thanks Lorena. So you know the time that We talking about almost thirty years so I think that the new generation has grown to be more empathetic more sympathetic about the stories and more curious and you know more women into rice. I mean we have more politician women in Congress so the hell lot and to shape the narrative about abuse women and As important I know when my store is and I was looking to get approach by Amazon Last year and They did a very good job. I'm happy with Doku serious Jordan Peele was wonderful his his a man who has a lot of social issues so I trusted him and the whole team of Amazon by then Same thing with a lifetime. Lifetime is an amazing network and day history of telling stories. They're relate to two people and they're very three. The story is the real stories with sensitivity. I think that that is actually Got My passion back to to even tell even more than I know that there are going to treat my story with sensitivity and respect in the lifetime project that Llerena is referring to is called. I was Lorena Bobbitt. And it premiered on Memorial Day two days ago on the lifetime network. I'm doing good. I'm doing fine. I I am happy blaze. I am in a better place I don't leave you know in the past I think the past did have helped me to save the person that I am today and have given me a platform to be able to help other women and You know anybody who is in an abusive relationship so is Is Good is good. Now we're going to keep my mission to help. Victims of domestic violence survivors because survivors. Also.
"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"They didn't general the jury. Let me thank you for the time and effort you put into this matter. And he's taken to this time. I'll have all parties to remain in the courtroom and be quiet and what a lot of people don't realize don't remember is that Lorena Bobbitt was actually found not guilty and she was found not guilty due to insanity causing an irresistible impulse to sexually wound John so as a result of that she could not be held liable for her actions. Yes that is correct. I was fine no guilty. I don't have any criminal records and A lot of people think you know I went to jail or went to prison for a long time or you know what happened. Really so We actually we both file out not guilty. Hey stew over. He was accused of marital rape. The most interesting thing about this is that I didn't know she was found not guilty. I didn't just from from everything I heard again me. Jack were too young for this to understand and and watch the trial but I had no idea just because what you hear about her. The jokes that are made the the assumption is that she was found guilty in. Probably got in trouble for this. But that's not actually true rape raid. It doesn't matter it's a crime in victim the victim so whether he's a women or is child you know to get a sexual assaulter. Why Dave Make Fun of of me? Why fate make fun of Omega songs about about it and and take it you know but that is the culture. There will event people were uneducated about domestic violence at the time now. There is awareness more people more advocates educating our society and that is great seat so after the trial the media obsession with John and Lorena didn't taper off. That's because from one side. There was an uproar over. Lorraine his acquittal and there was also resounding support for her acquittal on the other side. Women's groups from around the world saw this as progress if immigrant woman from Central America can be acquitted for castrating her white husband after she was sexually assaulted after a relationship of abuse in small towns Virginia. Then maybe this meant things. Were changing celebrities. Politicians from all over the world were weighing in. Everyone had an opinion and it showed up and a lot of places in pop. Culture was actually the cold open of the January Fifteenth Nineteen ninety-four episode of Saturday. Night live with Mike Myers playing John Wayne Bobbitt on the witness stand before another pop culture criminal Tonya. Harding comes by and beats his crotch repeatedly with a bat and the media coverage continued but there was only one of them who is stoking. The fire under Virginia Law a contingency of his acquittal was that since she was declared insane during that brief time period when the incident occurred she needed to undergo a psych evaluation and she was sent to a mental hospital for forty five days after those forty five days. Were up the core and her doctors reevaluated. Her mental state and they ultimately decided that she was no harm to herself or to others and she was released and while this is all happening. John was making the rounds on the talk show circuit. He was a guest on radio shows and TV segments and then six months later he made a really bold move right so after the trial John moved to Las Vegas in there. He met porn legend. Ron Jeremy Clearly. Ron must have inspired him in some unique way because six months after the trial John starred in an adult. Some John Wayne Bobbitt uncut during interview with Vanity Fair. John explained of the adult film quote. A porno seemed like the best way to show. My Penis worked only wasn't all the way healed yet. I realize now that was the point. I really think it's worth discussing that John Bobbitt following the trial just did the mainly things publicly. He Whitney moved to a ranch and he was like a cowboy and he was like. Latte last swing cattle and doing interviews dressed as a cowboy. We get on your penis works. Well we did it and you know we will talk about this in killing time. About men just being blubbering idiot. Sometimes but it's like his manhood was literally cut off his body so for him. That's probably the biggest nightmare a man so it's like I'm GonNa do a porn and show. It still works and having to go get a horse in. I'm going to go women in a pornography film in. It's like to show that I'm still a man exactly. Yeah on the nose. John Bob too on the nose house. Now we've been more subtle like build a house shirtless or like building a house. Well and the thing. He didn't have a job either right so he probably was feeling quite emasculated for a while to maybe go go get a career. Put on a suit something. Get a nice pair of dress shoes. But he was also showing his true colors because shortly before the release of his porn John was charged with misdemeanor domestic battery against his new girlfriend. Kristina Elliott these charges for the supported. Lorraina side of the story. He served twelve days of fifteen day sentence but that negative press didn't sway John from still seeking the spotlight and trying to prove how much of a man he was. He made a second porn franken penis which made his debut in one thousand nine hundred eighty six now. Why would John do another porn? The world need to John. Bobbitt sex tapes probably not but John had agreed to do it after accepting an offer from Howard. Stern for reconstructive plastic surgery for his penis to enlarge it even further and he was not going to be turning that down gross. So Howard Stern talked about the case frequently on a show and he had John Bobbitt on his a guest in nineteen ninety-three for his New Year's Eve special and they raised two hundred fifty thousand dollars to help cover the outstanding costs surgery and in one interview Howard was quoted as saying and this is one of the most disgusting quotes. I've ever heard quote. I don't even by this whole story that he was raping her. She's not that great looking disgusting. It's it really is like one of the most enraging comments that I've probably ever heard my entire life but aside from all this like Howard stern trash. There was also a handful of incidents of copycat crimes after the situation and they're called Baba Mania and it was after the incident. Most of them were self inflicted wounds but it was a whole thing. That was happening. And there is also the bobbit worm which was a worm that taxes to pray with scissor like jaws and this is named after the case as well. So there's all this pop no it's an actual worm like a real worm that a real worm identify words of worm. Bobbitt's were bobbit worm. Come on signed his stoop better than that to better. That's crazy. No the you know the person that named it to probably like I got it. I'm so clever. Flimsy was probably a man so so eventually the media coverage of the Bobby did taper off but the pop culture implications were there to stay and while no doubt lorraina experienced great difficulty during this period in her life she managed to turn this entire thing into something positive and find a silver lining. So it's been Basically almost thirty years three thickets has passed since it happened. There was a documentary air last year about my story. The documentary that Lorraina is referring to is the Amazon Docu series. Lorena a now by doing a lifetime movie so.
"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
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"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"So during the trial. John denied ever forcibly having sex with arena. He denied hitting her. He called her a liar and blamed all the relationships problems on her. He cited her temper as the reason for fighting in the relationship and the only mission he did make in terms of any physical altercations between them. Was that there had been some quote unquote pushing and shoving and their relationship. And what we have to remember about this. Entire trial is that we're talking about consensual sex versus forced rape. It's a he said she said kind of thing. And there isn't always evidence as about credibility and remember this is the Nineteen Ninety S. We're in a super conservative. Courtroom Lorraina is an immigrant from Central America and English as our second language. Oh and she's a woman and we're GONNA stay were to be indicted for spousal rape someone has to have caused permanent disfigurement and or maiming. The victim there wasn't much confidence that John was going to be found guilty and he wasn't. He was acquitted so a and he ended up being acquitted. I think the outcome would have been different. If we were even now we would talk about his trial now Sir. I I believe that he would being convicted. So a Lotta things have changed but You know little by little. We seem to step in the make. Ten steps in the right direction and But still a lot more much more work needs to be done. Even though cameras weren't allowed in the courtroom John's trial got a lot of coverage but it was nothing compared to that of his trial. This case had all the trappings of what we've seen at spectacles such as the Ted Bundy execution or the OJ. Trial people were selling t shirts. One shirt said MANASSAS. Va a cut above the rest and then they were boxer shorts that were sold that said. Vanessa's Va. Don't cut me short. Remember it's the ninety s and everyone in America was having a honeymoon period with outlets like court. Tv and it really was the precursor to reality TV when you think about it the characters in this trial they were a tabloid dream. And this time the world would get to watch every second of what was playing right so remember during John's trial. His case was determined to have sexual components therefore he has lawyers were given the choice about having the proceedings televised. You know to protect his privacy his dignity and for whatever reason Lorraina was not extended that same courtesy they concluded that Laurynas case was not a case with a sexual component. Even though the case was about Lorraina cutting off a sexual organ in response to being raped by her partner so in opinion. Personally I interpret this to mean that the political powers-that-be Manassas at the time didn't really care to preserve her dignity they wanted to publicly condemn. Lorraina and make an example out of her abuse victims. CaN'T RETALIATE. That's the message they're sending here and we're going to put this on display for the world to see first of all they get it wrong. They missed the big opportunity to talk about this crisis of domestic violence and sexual assault. They always wanted to talk about sensationalistic and alluring. Details details about me cutting off my ex-husband's peanut saw so it's really sad that the media portray me as a crazy hug bloody Latina which is basically raisin statement as well so I wanted to set the record straight that a lot of women who actually wanted to talk about the issues of domestic violence and sexual assault couldn't because the boss where men so Lorena trial started on January tenth nineteen ninety four when she pulled up in her car to enter the courtroom. There was a barrage of flashbulbs. A mob of more than two hundred reporters from around the world journalists as far as Japan had flown in. For this case there are more than twenty satellite trucks that lined up the streets. The atmosphere at the courthouse was extremely tense. According to a Newsweek poll that was conducted at the time it said sixty percent of the country was planning to watch this trial unfold so it was a huge huge deal and the stakes were high for Lorraina. She was facing twenty years from maliciously wounding John. But what a lot of people don't know is that prior to the trial the prosecution had offered. Lorena a plea deal. They said that if she admitted to the fact of cutting John's peanuts was a premeditated action. She would only get four months in jail and probation Lorena refused. She wasn't going to admit to something that wasn't true and also if she pleaded guilty to a felony she more than likely would never get an American citizenship and this is just something that she didn't want to risk giving up so imagine the stress and pressure of this whole situation lorraine at this time was only twenty four years old. And that's ten years younger than Alexis and I and I think that we forget how young she was at the time. All this happened. It's intense and when you see the old footage of the trial coverage you see her being pulled up in a car in the back and she just looks devastated to be in the middle of this it. It really is sad and another thing. That's sad is there is obviously media bias as well because so many of these details about this abuse was not and is not commonly known. I mean the whole world was watching my trial. I mean literally. So I'm I was very recognizable because a lot of there there were More of the devices like I said there who were in journalism where men so. The opportunity was not only lost in this hails of the. Know Elson session enlisted story but it was actually lost because the patch we are society there was among the male reporters of mailboxes. Who were in their twenty. Four seven cycle media cycle opening arguments commenced. We have is rain. Violence Lights just opposed against John. Wayne Bobbitt Penis. The evidence will show that it was his penis from which she could not escape which caused through the pain. The most fear humiliation submit to you that the case you will come to one conclusion and that is valuable feeds now. Luckily in mistrial the jury would in could hear everything about Lorraina and John's relationship in Lorena was not restricted to talking about just the five days of their relationship that happened prior to the incident. She could talk about the abuse that started from day. One and she did. He kicked me. He told me that I told you to not cry. And he slapped me on my faith people my hair in my face.
"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"So laurine was charged with militias wounding immediately but once. Lorena side of the story leaked to the press. Women's group made themselves heard. They were outraged that John Wasn't facing charges rightfully so but charging John had some difficult implications. And here's why so at the time in Virginia and about fifty percent of the other states. In America there were pretty archaic laws as far as Spousal rape is concerned in Virginia. If you were to be convicted of spousal rape you'd be facing a possible life. Sentence and qualifying for these charges was really difficult. In order for the charges to apply the two spouses would need to be separated. When the sexual assault occurred and another contingency was the assault would have needed to result in permanent bodily damage. So if you break this down and meant that even if the couple is separated and the husband raped his wife if he managed to do it without permanently naming her he wouldn't qualify for this charge at all so instead John was charged with marital sexual abuse which carried a possible. Twenty year sentence instead of the Max of life that applied in the spousal rape charges. John and Lorena. We're going to have separate trials and the questions that were asked in each this. Is He a habitual batterer? Who forced a young woman over the edge or was she this calculated hot blooded Latina? Who wanted to hurt her husband when he threatened to leave her and just fabricated this rape to justify it in a lot of people man mostly feel very compassionate just for then made her own. The case You know he lost his Male or so absolutely. The country was divided into two women were supported of me and especially you know advocates and activists feminist groups etc Inches Women Gentlemen in general In men were with him so I was the one who basically was the gains man or there were portraying me that weight so that was a gender inequality basically and still I think that You know we still even a patriarchal society. John's trial commenced in November of nineteen ninety-three in the court determined that his case had a quote unquote sexual component. So this meant that the news networks needed permission to film and air the trial national TV from the defense and from John and of course. John's defense declined so John's whole thing was he wanted his dignity intact. He didn't feel he should have to testify in front of the world things like that. They did not know how to charge Tam basically so they ended up charging ham for a marital rape but They do not charge him with domestic violence and Know he's Trial less three days and Might try lasted twelve days so I was unfortunately that we couldn't even talk about domestic violence on his trial during the proceedings. The jury was instructed to consider the night in question in they could only also consider what went on in John and Lorraine is relationship within the five days prior to the incident which is very restricting. If you're trying to prove a pattern of abuse in fact it basically sabotages her defense entirely in. This was because of the laws in Virginia. At the time which should not look favorably upon sexual assault victims prosecutors grill arena about these five days on the stand in one instance. Lorena testified that John Marshall to have sex one day but then stated that she consented to sex the following so the prosecutor essentially mocked and berated. Her in a tone that suggested she was lying. How could a woman consent one day and be raped the next while laurynas responses? Sometimes she just gave in and said yes because he was just going to do it anyway and like we know sexual assaults and abuse with a marriage is not so black and white is just not you can love your husband one day and he can hurt you the next and that's not a woman's fault you know more. Ns situation where. She's obviously scared of her partner. I mean her saying yes and giving in those times doesn't mean like she's scared and she's being forced into it some of those times as well so it's just it is very gray and it's hard to prove either way of course domestic abuse victims feel. They're always hoping that their their partner will go back to the person. They met outlines exactly so if if their husband occasionally shows like glimpse of love or shows a glimpse of how wasn't the beginning a woman will get excited and cling to that like maybe things are changing now so of course it makes sense. She can consent one day and not the next. It's just a ridiculous thing to presser on. It is a crazy world that we live in and it seems like overnight. Technology has just exploded. Everything is being done online meetings school. You name it. They're doing it but unfortunately one thing has stayed the same in that is coloring your hair so you only have a couple options really. You can go to a traditional salon and spend lots of time and money or grab a box of hair-color from a drugstore which always dries her hair out and makes it break off or you could do the new way. Madison read it. Took a very very strong independent thinking woman to shake up the hair coloring world in Amy Eric Digest that with Madison. Reed the company. 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"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"But remember it's nineteen ninety-three it's Nassar's Virginia. Lorraina has newly arrived in this country. Relatively her family's not here and there were very little resources for her to turn to as far as getting out of her situation that time I didn't have the resources Like we have now for example cell phones the Internet so I couldn't really search for any resources. On there is no hotline. The violence against women's act was not was in diapers basically didn't really exist. It like I said women did not when I called it believes Did this catchers of the nine one. One didn't know how to help me. Because ending know how to handle The victims of domestic violence or the police either in a had to sleeping might call our many times shelters There's no shelters in my community. There was a one shelter that it was were homeless. There was no domestic violence shelters. Even now there's still one shelter and provide eighteen beds in my community of Almost a million people in my family was in. I'm from Ecuador in I grew up in Venezuela and so my family wasn't Venezuela I came from Venezuela and My family away from home was a very sweet nice family That took me in France of my family and a John did estimate may from them. I have no idea what was that of Alex. And little by little he also relate me from my friends in. There's no way that I I have. I can have phone calls. Because he got jealous. I didn't see the red flags of that. I didn't see those signs. You know When I met him was basically it was a nice guy. I mean he was very charming. I wasn't very young naive girl anyway. He was my first love so I wasn't sure what was going on with. This and Lorena was not only being abused. She was so isolated. Remember she didn't have any family in this country so she you know. Just think about that you you. It's your second language. You don't have any family in this country. You marry this guy that's supposed to be your dream guy and then he just starts beating you and you're also twenty two and you become the breadwinner to take on as time moved on. Things didn't get any easier. Lorraina and John's house went into foreclosure. It would break up and make up and rinse and repeat more turbulence Lorraine learned that she was pregnant and when asked later about this time John and Lorena tell different stories. How this exactly went down. According to Lorraina she was excited to start a family until on the news and he was less than thrilled to hear about it. She said that John Didn't think he was ready to be. Add threatened to leave if Lorraina wanted to keep the baby so Lorena didn't have anyone else in this country. She was in her early twenties and didn't want to raise a baby on her own understandably so according to John He'll arena agreed that it wasn't the right time for two of them to have a kid and they decided on an abortion together but she claims that John was the one who suggested she get the abortion or he'll leave so by June twenty second of nineteen ninety-three John and Lorena had been married for about four years. And it's on this day that the subject of separating and possibly divorcing had come up in conversation between the two. This conversation was heated and afterwards learning. What to the police station to ask whether or not she could get a protective order against John. The police said yes she could but they said it would take about three hours to process all the paperwork for the situation and for whatever reason Lorena didn't WanNa wait the three hours and then she left or was forced to leave and that same evening John had named Robert Johnson staying with them so John took his buddy out for some good old fashioned drinking. When John and Robert got back from the bars Robert went to his guest room and John got into bed and fell asleep and he was severely intoxicated. Then as Lorena tells it John Sexually assaulted her and forcibly raped her. After that Lorraina went to the kitchen to get some water in the kitchen she sees a knife sitting next to the kitchen sink and she picks it up. She goes back into the bedroom and then she slices. John's penis off and since John was so heavily intoxicated. He didn't really realize four. Feel or understand the gravity of what was going on and he certainly didn't understand. How severe or serious is in was until moments later? He laid in bed momentarily as blood started to pool on the sheets. And once he did realize lorraine had done he screamed. He woke up his friend. Robert in the two of them rushed to the hospital. And while this is happening laurynas speeding off in her. Nineteen ninety-one Mercury Capri as fast as she could and she told. Abc News and in Nineteen ninety-three interview that she was so distraught after she had named her husband that she wasn't even aware of the fact that she was holding the penis when she got into her car. And once this registered tour she throws it out of the car window and then drove over her friend Janice House genocide that when she saw Lorraina her door crying she believed that John Again had done something to hurt. Lorraina and Janna was well aware of his track record of abusing her so when Lorena told her that she had cut John's penis off Gina's mouth was on the floor sobbing. Lorena gave her a rough estimate as where the location was that she threw the penis out the window and it was in a field across the street from seven eleven within ten minutes of the incident John was at Prince William Hill and as he was being examined the doctors determined John had actually lost a third of his blood volume by this point so there were two things happening when he was in the Er. The doctors wanted to make sure John didn't die and they also wanted to reattach his penis but there was just one problem. They didn't have the penis and they didn't know where it was but the police were trying to remedy that now. The investigators were on board and they had learned where Lorraina had tossed the penis out while she was driving so they had a team of officers searching for it in just an aside. I was watching that Amazon Documentary Lorraina and they interview the doctor and when he was called is in the middle of the night he was on call and he was a urologist in had heard what happened. He was preparing to do a procedure that would whole his jury throughout and he was going to trim the rest of the penis so he would have to sit down like a woman. If they didn't find the peanuts that's what they would have had to do for him. Bright so that's what they were preparing go. You don't have it. I mean the clock is ticking. Appendages GonNa die if it's not sound right away and put on ice so everyone was freaking out that this guy might lose forever as billy said. The police were searching for it by that field at seven. Eleven because they had found out from Janet at that point where it like where Lorraina had thrown it in. The situation was looking grim because when the police got there this field was huge and there was really tall grass everywhere and they really doubted whether they would find this peanuts time for it to still be viable reattachment because back at the hospital. John was being prepped for emergency surgery and was starting to panic and freak out and lose hope that he would be penis less for the rest of his life but in a stroke of good luck or good detective work. The police found the dismembered penis. They ran into the seven eleven. They put on ice and they put it in a brown hotdog bag and ran into the hospital. Give the surgeons who would be working on. John was nearly six. Am when John was finally taken into the operating room for what would end up being a nine hour.
"lorena" Discussed on The First Degree
"So today's case takes us back to June twenty third of nineteen ninety-three Bill Clinton was president. That's the way love goes by. Janet Jackson was on the Charts and the movie. Jurassic Park was the top at the movie theaters and the setting for today's case. Manassas town northern Virginia which acts as a bedroom community to Washington. Dc resign twenty five miles away from the suburban area and the place is rich in American history. And it was the site of two civil war battles battle bull run by a rower and two and re-enactors often depict those battles near the MANASSAS national battlefield. Park. It's quiet and for the most part. It floats under the radar as far as scandals are concerned but all of that was about to change between two and three. Am On the twenty third of June nineteen ninety-three calls between law enforcement officers started ping pong in between one. Another in the information that was being shared was shocking and confusing. There was a man at Prince George's hospital who's bleeding profusely. What happened? His penis had been cut off. Did it is wife her name. Lorena Bobbitt this is a narrative that many of you know but what many of you won't be familiar with is exactly how this happened. How did Lorena Bobbitt become arena bob it and beyond that? What variables and Seidel implications contributed to the Lorena bobbitt phenomenon? We're all familiar with while to answer that. We need to go back to the beginning. Lorena Gallo was born in Ecuador in nineteen sixty nine before eventually moving to Venezuela where she was raised and it was during her childhood. There that Lorraina fell in love with American culture and this notion of the American dream so she decided she wanted to move to the US. She visited America when she was sixteen and she was given the trip to come visit as a consumer goofed and she just fell in love with life. Here when Lorraina got here. She didn't speak a word of English and she learned by taking. Esl classes in watching soap operas and the price is right on TV whenever she cut. She was here on a student visa and she started taking classes at Northern Virginia community. College between taking classes she worked as a manicurist salon owned by woman named Johnny Basuki in fact Jan owned three salons and she took Lorena under her wing and they became fast friends. It was details told near Quantico that Lorraina was approached by a handsome marine lance corporal named John Wayne Bobbitt. John was from Niagara Falls when growing up. His father was not really in the picture. And there's a few of the sad details about John's childhood was that his father drank and beat his mother which caused a really volatile environment by h three John and his two brothers were taken away from his mother due to drug use and neglect and they were sent to live with an aunt and uncle when John was old enough he enlisted in the Marines which ultimately brought him to Virginia which then brought into this dance hall where he met Lorraine and Lorraine was and still is stunning and exotic when the two met apparently the attraction was undeniable in an interview for the Amazon Documentary Lorraina. She said I thought John was very handsome. Blue is a man in uniform you know. He was almost like a symbol a marine fighting for the country. I believed in this beautiful country. I was swept off my feet. I wanted my American dream so they started dating and things moved quickly in the pair got married nine months later in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Their wedding small and performed by a justice of the peace and rain expected marital bliss to ensue. But that's not exactly what happened. So the domestic abuse started almost immediately and by ninety one John had been discharged from the marines and he found himself without a steady paycheck. And this prompted then twenty two year old. Lorraina to become the breadwinner of the family during this time. Lorraina worked as a nanny Virginia area and she continued to work at the beauty salon owned by her good friend. Janet and in this Amazon Series. Lorena said that one month after she and John remarried the to driving in the car and John started driving radically Lori and ask them to stop pleasing her hands on the steering wheel and trying to straighten out their route and it was in this moment that John allegedly punched her for the first time. And this wouldn't be the last time. More fighting ensued and escalated both called nine one one on each other but the violence continued and being the breadwinner. Lorraina felt immense pressure to provide for them to the point where she actually started embezzling money from the salon where she worked over. Seven thousand dollars and remember Jonah. The store owner who had become so close with the Raina. She realized what was going on. So she actually let Lorraina keep her job at the salon but made her payback the money with interest. You knew she was having these.
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"lorena" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"By reason of insanity not guilty Lorena. Bobbitt was found not guilty. Were you surprised? Yes because she did it but yes yes because it was a finding of not guilty by reason of temporary insanity which is so rare so unusual the only thing that makes it not surprising is again it comes back to who is my victim and does the jury like him. Does the jury believe him and the answer to both of those questions is a resounding no okay so just for our listeners. I do want to point out that the jury deliberated for seven hours. They found her not guilty due to insanity causing an irresistible impulse to sexually wound John. Okay that is the summoned substance so then she undergoes a forty five day evaluation by Central State Hospital which was in Virginia and after that she was released so go right so it's not as if she was a mentally ill and they kept her in the hospital for an unknown period of time. Which happens some when I was a prosecutor. One of my first jobs in the office was I was in charge of all. They called in New Jersey. The Kroll patients these ver- everyone in Bergen County New Jersey. Who was found not guilty. By reason of insanity these are people who have killed other people who have done all these different crimes and while they were no longer in car. They're not incarcerated but they're still under the jurisdiction of the judicial system and some were in inpatient programs outpatient programs. They'd have to check in with the judge every other month to see how they were doing but that didn't happen with her because she was fine. It was just in that moment of insanity that that she had so a a great a great result for the defense. Okay so now it's been twenty five years. Vinnie tell me. Do you think because I have a lot of thoughts on this subject. Do you think the verdict would have been different today? No not for her but remember. There were two trials. Okay I think in today's era of me too. I think there would be a greater sense of what rape is and that no means no and that any man or any woman who engages in that activity with someone who has said no can be found guilty so I would think in that first trial. Prosecutors would have a better chance of convicting John Bobby but I think the same result here because this wasn't a a case of hey this didn't happen. This is a case of what was her mental state and. I don't think there's anything happening today. That would harm her as someone who is alleged being sexually abused physically abused over the course of years. That would Make it easier to convict her. Because I think she'd be seen even more as victim today than back then. Well Okay so. This is a good point. You're bringing up was she seen as a victim. Men were mostly on his side. Okay and I thought that women would naturally beyond her side but forty five years ago twenty. Five years ago I thought every woman would-be on her side or was but no in fact when I did a lot of research on what was going on at the time and it sounds like working class. Women were on her side but intellectuals and activists who call themselves feminists were not on her side. In fact there was a woman Susan. Okay so she was a ucla. Law Professor and the Campaign Manager for Michael Dukakis was remember. Yeah I'm older than you so okay so you know what she said. That Lorena Bobbitt is a criminal. She's not a feminist heroine and she said those who flocks to the defense of Lorena Bobbitt. Were doing a disservice a disservice to battered women. Why would you not be on her side because of the violence because of the Violent Act? Okay are there. Are there other ways to respond to that? Is there a way to get away their way to go down and sign a complaint against him? Oh God complained. What is that going to do in the middle of the night when somebody's raping you? Listen vinnie person in the apartment that night by the way yes friendly. Tell his friend was. He's the one who drove John. Bobby who hospital that. I don't know what he's doing during all of this. That's a that's a great question. I don't know with all this screaming and everything else going on so he was also drinking though. So you've been passed out drinking buddy right drinking buddy but you know what listen. I'm going to be honest. This is not fair that people are criticizing her for being violent. When what else was she supposed to do? And I think in today's world it would have been different absolute been. I'll get back to if it happened in the moment of the attack or just after the attack I might be with you because it's it's more self defense but again there's this he's passed out drunk. He's at that point and now she's acting out either through insanity or through revenge the question is would the feminist have been with her now. I then back then if she did it in in the heat of the moment right when it happened right after the you think they would have been more on her side. Okay I just WANNA point one other thing and this happened after the verdicts the president and vice president of the women's Freedom Network in Washington DC. They wrote a letter to The New York Times editor. And these women read assignment and Kathy Young. And they said spousal abuse was not an excuse for legalized revenge. Okay so he did not believe her defense here. Here's here's where I think things would be different today. Social Media and I think it would have created this incredible divide in our country that everyone knew about this case back then but everybody wasn't exchanging their opinions on it and you know how today it's all about politics this all would have been about John Bobbitt's penis and people would have chosen sides and you're either with them or you with her and I and I think the fight on Social Media. If this happened today would have been To the extent that we're fighting about politics but it would wouldn't have been Democrat Republican. It would have been us against you guys so it would have been gender division. I believe for the most part there would have been. Exceptions would have been exceptions. But I think it would have created this incredible incredible divide. I just want to point out something also in all of this discussion because there were these let's say intellectual maybe more educated feminist. That's a good way to put it through the more educated feminists were saying okay. This is not a justification for violence in essence right but the problem was no one was saying how she could have gotten out of there. They're saying okay. Don't commit violence Call the police report it. Whatever but again look at this woman. She's a young woman she was. What at the time around. I think twenty four when the incident took place right. So she's yeah so she's she's young she. I believe was a green card holder right. That's where they had to get married so I don't think she was a citizen yourself. Not She wasn't making enough money she was working at the Nail Salon or she yes. She was doing something like that so she didn't have the means. So you have to really look at women in that position. Who and there's so many women like that in this world who are getting beat up who don't have parents or siblings or money or means or education or opportunity to get out and nobody talked about it that people are criticizing what she did being violent but then give me an alternative. Tell me how am I supposed to get out? And no one did call nine one one when he's passed out drunk. That's the answer for that night. You know there's another part of this. Because and we've we've done some of the punchier right and I'm comfortable doing those. Because of the life John Bobbitt has led and it's always about him however I think if this same thing happened today I think the late night comics would have to take a moment to pause before they started with the with the with the jokes and the reason being. You don't posit anything they do they do they do because I think it would be dangerous. I go tell your now joking about a situation where woman is alleging that she has been raped okay and you turned a the rape of a woman into a late night joke. How's that GONNA play on twitter? I withdraw my earlier statement counselor. You're right you're absolutely right because in this climate Jimmy. Kimmel wouldn't be able to joke about this. Not Not now. No you're in the climate of Metoo and political correctness and increase sensitivity towards women. You're absolutely right. They made jokes about him. She's alleging she's been raped and I think that's how it all ties together but I think at the end of the day. Though she's found not guilty he's found not guilty and they go on with their lives on the hot mess express. What a story. What a story of any it certainly was. It was so folks. If you feel like trials in cases like this you can watch us because we're on television on on the television. Yeah you can get a digital antenna. Make sure you SCAN IT REESE GANIC GET US. And we'll be delivering justice for you each and every day and of course every week here on the podcast put now. It's time to go. It's time to go. Thank you so much for listening. I don't want to cut it short but we gotta go. This podcast is a production of court. Tv COULD COURT TV DOT COM for more content trials on demand and to find out how to watch not in your area..
"lorena" Discussed on Court TV Podcast
"Vinnie. What happened to it? Well where to go. Let's listen. This is actually the cross examination of Lorena Bobbitt at her trial by the Prosecutor. Going after her about what she did with it. And you WANNA get rid the as out yet so. There's two parts of this cross examination. I want to talk about the first. Is You know finding out what happened to his Penis. But the other part is in. This is a choice made by prosecutors. That you've got Lorena Bobbitt on the witness stand being cross examined by a woman because you would not want to have a man attacking Lorena Bobbitt on the witness stand. Oh yeah this was so well strategized by the prosecution so she throws out the window. The rest of the story is folks that don't know is that she actually caused the police right and does the right thing at that moment where it is points out. It's in the field somewhere so they've got search team out right so you do grid searches where you chair. Divide up and everyone's down there with the flashlights way. Can I tell you so I was? Obviously you know we've been reading up on this case and one writer whose name I I can't remember. Sorry but they wrote that officers. Were the area. They're clutching their loins. God what the amazing thing is right. They find it. They pack it in ice and bring it to the hospital. If she doesn't call police he's done. Oh yeah he's done and the doctors on record talking about that he said. Listen the only thing I can't. We cannot build a new one. The only thing that can happen here. Either we get it and we attempt to reattach it or we'll just so it up has is so Lorena Bobbitt did the right thing and I think looking. In retrospect you know maybe that helps. Maybe there's a moment of clarity away from the temporary insanity that she's alleging that Oh. I realized what I did hear. Well here's my problem with how she describes the throwing out okay. So she's saying that she doesn't realize it's in her hand until she's in the car the problem I have is so she cuts it off right so according to what she's saying she almost blacks out until she's in the car so it's this mechanical grabbing the keys leaving the house closing the door all of this time it's in her hand and she doesn't realize it's interesting all right. Let's go back in time now. Remember this is one thousand nine hundred three so we don't have those cars where you walk up to them and they automatically unlock so she has to unlock the door door. How do you do all? I don't understand I I really find that to me. It's all it's all. It's almost like Jodi areas. If you recall that trial Jodi. Arias talked about this fog. That she was in and the jury in that case did not by her fog story. That was just a cover so the question here is is is she covering What she does actually remember by saying. I don't remember it because she doesn't want to remember it. Exactly it's just very hard to believe that you go through all the steps from the cutting to the actual throwing out and just mechanically like you described having this thing in your hand and then of course juggling. The keys was there goes to her credibility now I think it goes against her credibility. Yeah Yeah Yes yes yes yes yes so now right so now for people don't know there's a nine and a half hour surgery that takes place. Yeah it's miraculous not only miraculous. It gives John Wayne Bobbitt. A new career as an adult film star. Really yes yes. So he made two movies. One is called Uncut and he made a second movie. Vinnie to move to more than the second one was Franken. Here's the problem and looking back at this case from where now this is our John. Vob took this and turned it into his fifteen minutes right his fifteen minutes of fame and he made these movies he was a regular on Howard. Stern turned him into the celebrity. And I think all the things that he did afterwards made it easier for us to giggle about what happened to him of course but okay wait. Two things number one. Did you know he was in a band? Oh okay do you know what the band was called? The band was called severed parts true story. I'm not making this up then I read it. It's true okay. So that's what instrument did he play. I I don't know. Can we put them the next podcast? I'll I'll often dedham to this podcast but also what you were saying is because of what he did after after you know the incident and his films and everything and Howard Stern. That made it more of a joke. I may disagree because at the time people the late night comedians. Everybody was talking about the media. They say that Bob at jokes became a national pastime so he profited off the jokes that everybody was already making. Did he did now for Bobbitt. You know he didn't put himself in that situation of the loss of his right right but he created this situation with his wife. So it's really bizarre place because there's alleged criminal behavior back and forth and he ends up being celebrity. She ends up being celebrity. They hire publicists. What criminal defendants are hiring? Publicists in the midst of of their cases is complete insanity. But I think that happens now right criminal defendants higher having publicist not really now. I don't think okay. Okay I guess unless there are celebrities already but right now let's get back to the trial okay because prosecutors had a theory here in their case and it was all about motive right. Why did she really do it and prosecutors had their own version? That had nothing to do with temporary insanity. Take a listen the brand earlier that if you ever found out he had an affair you would cut his penis off printing. Your in yet never sat back revenge. Revenge is the real theme of the Prosecution case here that she didn't do it because she was an abused woman. She didn't do it because she was temporarily insane. She did it because she wanted to get back at him. Wait a minute wait a minute. Wait a minute. She didn't say yes. I said that no in fact she said no. I did not say that. Ma'am no Ma'am no so what? You're doing exactly what you're not supposed to do. Which is what which is take the answer you want from the question now from the anthrax examination is all about the question. It's not about the answer you know that. And you know they've got someone else. She's got a prior inconsistent statement. Where she was talking about this and you brought up the other inconsistent state police where she wasn't sexually satisfied by her husband who always satisfied himself. She wasn't satisfied. So was this an act of spite and revenge rather than what she said. Which was. I didn't know what I was doing. All these flashbacks. You know actually now that I think about and this goes to your point because as officers of the court. We are not supposed to ask questions that we don't have a good faith basis to ask so I would like to believe that. The prosecutor asked that question because she did have direct information. That Lorraina told a friend if he ever had an affair that she would cut his penis off so so I understand right. I understand your and that's and that's consistent with the statement that she made to about the sexual satisfaction that there's she's not satisfied with the way the relationship is going and this act of going after his penis had everything to do with a vendetta with revenge and it was purposeful and she had thought about it before it. Wasn't this sudden irresistible impulse. No it was plan that she had based upon this volatile relationship where he was cheating on her and flaunting it in her face. These two belong on the hot mess. Express Okay Vinnie. We've discussed the prosecution's case but it's time to look at what Lorena Bobbitt 's lawyers came up with for her defense and we'll do that.
"lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty
"Of men talking about women in that conversation confirmed by others. John Brag that he enjoyed having forcible sex. The friend recalled. He said that he liked to make girls squirm and yell and make them Bleed. Yell for help. Lorraina seem desperate for help but the one thing she wasn't willing to do was end her marriage at that point. She still believed that. Divorce would be immoral. Failing against her Catholic vate but by the summer of Nineteen Ninety one even the appearance of a marriage between John and Lorena was rapidly disintegrating according to Lorraina. John started sleeping with other women. She said he often stole money from her purse to fund his dates. John Rarely had money of his own disband. After his discharge from the Marine Corps he struggled to find and keep a job. The couple relied almost entirely on Lena's income as a manicurist but she didn't make enough to pay their bills. Their cars were repossessed and their house was foreclosed on sometime in the summer of Nineteen ninety-one in order to keep up with the bills and get her car back arena began embezzling money from the Neil Salon. She wrote false tickets for the customer. She served over charging them and kept the difference. She did this for several months when she eventually confesses to John. He was furious the agreed she should come clean to her boss. Janna Basuki Mississippi was angry but she had known Lorena for several years and she understood her desperate situation instead of firing her she dunk. Chlorine is commissions until all the money she'd stolen was repaid with financial strain and John's infidelity constant source of tension. The couple separated in October of nineteen ninety one. After two years of marriage John move back to Niagara Falls to stay with his family. Marina moved back in with Castro's the couple remained apart for nearly a year but they stayed in touch by telephone. Both seemed interested in reconciliation. Despite everything that had happened between them John was still arenas I love. She admitted I was scared to meet somebody else. A two thousand three study published in the Journal of Family. Violence found that leaving an abuser. Tends to be a process rather than a discrete event and can take several years on average. A victim leaves their abuser seven times before the separation is permanent in September of Nineteen Ninety. Two twenty four year old. John Returned Virginia. He said he and Lorena wanted to try to start over. Again and work on their marriage they moved into the Maplewood Park apartment complex in Manassas according to Lorraina the abuse resumed immediately after they were reunited. Lorena said that by the start of nineteen ninety. Three John beat her at least twice a week by May Llerena finally seemed to recognize their relationship was beyond repair around this time. John told her that his friend Robert was moving into their one bedroom apartment after the experience with Todd. Lorena was weary about having more men's Dan her home but John didn't give her a choice at this point lorraine thought about getting a divorce when she brought it up to John. He told her she could leave but reminded her that he knew where she worked. He would always be able to find her even if their marriage was over. According to Lorena John told her that divorce people usually stay friends and continue to have sex given his past behavior arena took this as a threat he would continue to rape her even if they split up as the abuse continued. Lorraina had the idea to hide a tape recorder in her purse. She thought a tape of John. Reading her might be helpful in divorce proceedings but John discovered the tape while trying to take money from her purse and he flew into a rage. The BOBBITT's downstairs neighbors later said they heard a loud argument with someone banging running. She heard Lorena screaming at John to give back her purse. Lorena said that John grabbed the tape and flushed it down the toilet then. She said John Raped her. Lorena tried to fight him off scratched his face leaving a gouge in his cheek but he overpowered her. Lorena reached a point where she didn't want to salvage things. Her life with John was a nightmare and she just wanted it to be over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbor she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing to walk out of her marriage on Saturday. June Nineteenth Nineteen Ninety. Three arena ran into a neighbor. Diane Hall. She told Diane that she was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seem strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty first Lorraina went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and enter the order into the computer system. Lorraina told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning. John and Robert were gone when Lorena woke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading trucks at Food Warehouse and Secured Robert. Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual when she came home. The men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host at a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead Llerena. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs neighbor. Ella Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Lorena when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health. Problems and marina did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several beers. John and Robert left the bar around one thirty. A M. They had a meal at a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three. Am in the early hours of Wednesday. June twenty third. Lorena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her. He had ripped off the shorts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so far down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and rape sure afterward. He pushed her away. Lorraina said she cried and asked him why he did this tour. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head royal as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the time after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flitting through her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator. The kitchen filled with light. Lorena turned towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle. It felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm. That came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as olive podcasts. Other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show the best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram. At podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When true love meets true crime crimes of passion was created by Max? Cutler is a production of color media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design vicary Murphy. Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul skinned additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madden. This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. 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"lorena" Discussed on Not Guilty
"In Nineteen Eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the Marine Corps Johnson that his military career blunted his ability to feel empathy. Saying because I'm a combat marine. I'm trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand person who has a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with the arena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity. But this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention after about ten months of dating twenty two year old John and twenty year old. Lorena were married. A justice of the peace performed the legal ceremony on June eighteenth. Nineteen eighty-nine the couple settled into a small studio apartment and Manassas Virginia out of the Castro's home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and Lorena could finally build an intimate relationship together as husband and wife. They seem happy together. But that was quick to change. We'll talk about John and Lorena disastrous marriage coming up now back to the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt Man. Nineteen year old. Lorena Cayo a young woman who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating they decided to get married but the marriage turned sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This was the start of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast. John said that Llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The American dream meant being successful and having a big house. Bull Arena. Told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday John. Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family. According to Lorena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned special wedding reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived. Delete missing the celebration. When they got there. Everyone was furious. It will Serena's first introduction to John's family. All she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying in Niagara for three days. John Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied them. John told Lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for awhile. Lorraina was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below arena. Said her husband didn't care. Todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found drug paraphernalia in their apartment she then discover that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem was todd's influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said about a month into their marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorena the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's in Washington DC. But they turned away because their attire. Didn't that the dress code they decided to go to another bar. We're taught in John during beer and took several shots. When it was time to go home they all returned to the car and John. Got Behind the wheel. Lorena recalled that John sped down. I sixty six at over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes. Other drivers beeped their horns in veer to get out of their way at one point. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to Llerena. That's when John Punched her. She started to cry as John. Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment when John opened the door. His demeanor changed completely suddenly. He grew quiet and got his temper. Under control officer. Francis saw arena crying and asked her if she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John and his cousin. Todd remember that night differently. They confirm Llerena story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and they were turned away because John was wearing sneakers. Baton said that lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John across the face todd settle Rina continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then. He came back inside and went to bed after the incident. Lorraina tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized which gave her hope that she had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city Maryland they brought Taunton long as well as arenas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when John. Thought he heard a man whistle at the women. He grew furious. Lorena said John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed lorraine his account of the trip horrified by the way John Treated Lorena. She yelled at him to stop. John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back to the hotel to pack up their things. He ordered the group into the car and they began. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John Deny that he hit lorraina during the trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he was driving through traffic. Llerena and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. She did not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any other details of the trip. After they dropped Terry off return to their apartment John continued to beat Lorena until she fled the apartment. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be waiting a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham. Young University cited religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in the two thousand twelve study by associate professor of psychology at Brigham Young University Nuwakot. Yamawaki research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John were still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She did not want to admit her marriage was already a failure. Divorce also went against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She was pleased when his cousin. Todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but John Marinas lives did not improve bio arenas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her robbing his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe L- Arenas Co workers reported regularly seeing bruises on her arms neck and face around the same time John Lorena moved into a new house with more space John said the move was L- arenas idea and Lorena said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money added to their attention then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Lorena became.
Detainees in US immigration jails living in fear as coronavirus spreads
"I wanted to get this show out today because I just got off the phone with Lorena Qudos out of Mississippi who is an immigrant rights activists. We recently published some news coming out of Louisiana Private Immigration Detention Center that Laurynas Organization called attention to and I wanted to connect with her the Afon to check in on what is happening in Mississippi and Louisiana during the nineteen crisis. If you're in the thick fan Lorena was on the show with us live from Mississippi in February and so I just gave her a ring. And here's what we talked about. Hey thank you so much for being unlucky. No rebels radio with me. Thank you for having me so I wanted to reach out to you. Know we just connected like even like less than a month ago. Right in the thick in Jackson so Spin on you've quickly Yeah but in the middle of all this before we talk a little bit about the work that you're doing Right now how is Mississippi? In general How the mood out there during the during the global pandemic well right now with. What's your feeling is a lot of concern We're in Jackson Mississippi And It we are excited that the mayor's taking action to but the rest of Mississippi is pretty much running Normal especially the Gulf coast with many restaurants open and Being so close to the water we hearing exploding daily so concerned Yeah and our the our immigrant communities that you you serve in In Mississippi how are they? Are they getting the information or they? How's that going? Yeah so he feels some sort of infrastructure we have communications and have the comedian's going strong and has been able to really provide information. I've seen as as we were able to to to define what was going on. So we're trying to interpret translate whatever we get from the CDC. Try to clear each easier to understand. And when I don't share that social media we've created looks Different message services over the phone that we're trying we do here sometimes. People don't realize if I it's as the gravity of the situation But we're trying and right now we're working on developing sound videos in shoe and Imam That have more than interfaces so that people can pay attention to what's going on but there is a lot of concern because they've already depleted and resources so our families could not stuck up right. They have anything to with. No they're just GONNA. I'm very very small amount of resources. And we're trying to create a different fun to be able to Helping your also focusing on the other side of this crisis. That is to be honest with you. It's not getting as much attention. And then it has to do with immigrants attention centers particularly in Louisiana. Where it's now great safe to say that we've unit GONNA be another you know not if it's not already so can you tell me a little bit of the context of what happened this this week. in why we're talking right now Yeah so we so we Have a call to action to them. All the united other Southern organizations and Louisiana particularly working with immigrant community Lisa out oppression me the mandate that I Free are people that were in detention and also United with the movement here in just fifty two free Folks in the jails so we sent out a press release. We both reached out to congressman. Benny Thompson who was the chant. Home Security Committee or asking him to publicly. Ask for these folks so he has agreed to a conversation with us. So that's tending for Lundy Terrible. There's particular one that we share the recording of s Beliefs on one of the male detainees in Louisiana upper corner. You Cleveland Apple Towel again. Even through the veto if you take it again going on though while the woman kindly wannabe panel this. You need big game on to winter. They won't believe me. That's about all the topic on way down the alley in downtown Seattle media buying them. I don't you come home. And then not only Audi that a major Yom Lucchino. Thanks for the help. My Album Light Reno Navy to gay big data can only get thirty dollars. A good idea to pay quitting loosely. Kamal can lead equiment even only monkey and won't get get older woman. I go see them on Sola. It'll be Audi dark. You think the last thing they will get into the Marine. Go get him waking. You only think that believe. Showman Noah Anthony Quainton. What you're saying what keying into. Saint Blind Mehta. Can you hear a little bit more about what you're hearing from these From these individuals who are are incarcerated right now and immigrant detention centers and just want the private facility. Correct from what I can share more about what you're hearing the stories Because I know it was so powerful to hear There's a humanity going on here and then and back to me is just be missed in this crisis And so I have visited essential myself when you first come in. And you know it's a brand new looking space but when you And of course we accept patients We certainly Here from Folks that are in detention center is how horrible. The conditions are The fact that they are already mistreated by the officers. But very unsanitary conditions They don't have soap They have to beg for Wendy. Do out of Asia You know the soap shampoo They actually have organized a time for them to clean themselves and they are not because tendency there. Several people that actually have Chronic lung problems and Heart problems and they are terrified. You know because you have people that are coming in from outside constantly and then they'll also transferred people from other detention centres. Dan You know the movement in and out and it's about to happen and time bomb right now and that's that's what people are worried. They're terrified now. We have a hunger strike. Because they're they feel desperate feeling. This is the only way that able get some
Judge stalls California labor law as it relates to truckers
"Of federal judges temporarily blocking a new California labor law from impacting more than seventy thousand independent truckers law makes it harder for companies classify workers as independent contractors instead of employees employees are entitled to minimum wage and benefits such as workers compensation the judge granted a temporary restraining order for the California trucking association saying the association is likely to eventually prevail in its argument that the state law violates federal law democratic assemblywoman that Lorena Gonzalez says the state will continue to fight the trucking
"lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion
"Bairo added John was smeared. She got off but things weren't so simple for Lorena Bobbitt. She thought that a not guilty verdict meant that she would be allowed to go home but her insanity defense meant that she wasn't free to be released. The law required that that she be remanded to the custody of the state's Mental Health Commissioner. Her lawyer had tried to explain this. But perhaps because of the language barrier Lorraina had not understood stood the ramifications of her plea Llerena was required to stay at Central State Hospital in Petersburg Virginia for a forty five day evaluation period after which the doctors would present their opinions to the court on whether continued hospitalization would be necessary. Lorena couldn't comprehend it and she thought that the verdict would finally bring an end to this chapter of her life. She could be a normal person left alone with nobody scrutinizing on her every word in action now she learned. It wasn't over yet as the shock. were off Lorena. Felt angry if anybody should be locked up. It should be John not her. He was the violent one. She had lost control only once. He had lashed out dozens and dozens of times and nobody called him crazy. Lorena watched as two officers arrived to escort her away. Our lawyer said that she was going to get help but this didn't make her feel any better. All she knew was that her life would soon be in the hands of complete strangers. Thanks again for tuning into into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the final episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss how John and Lorena unjustified to their new lives. It's after so many months in the spotlight you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all of our casts other shows on spotify or your favorite podcast hot cast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't forget to follow us on facebook instagram at our cast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When True Love Meets True Crime Crimes Absa Passion was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design by Karie Murphy Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Moller additional production assistance by Maggie Admire Freddie Beckley? This episode of Crimes Of Passion Russian was written by Christina. TAMMY's I'm leaning Hobbs..
"lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion
"Coming up. We'll talk about the very different pats John and Lorraine took as a slipped out of the public eye now back to the story for several years in the Mid Nineteen Ninety S. The name Bobbitt was a national punchline. Twenty six year old Lorena. Bobbitt did did everything she could to escape this infamy including reverting back to her maiden name but her ex husband twenty-nine year old John Wayne Bobbitt Abed did everything he could to bring as much attention to himself as possible. John went on publicity tours and radio shows. He gave dozens of interviews to journalists appearing on Larry King and twenty twenty he acted as a judge and Lorena Bobbitt look alike contest and he performed into adult films but John Wasn't just linked to lurid cash grabs he also made headlines for his has trouble with the law. He was repeatedly jailed for domestic violence incidents against the women in his life. He also showed an obsession with his ex-wife. Swipe Florina even after their divorce was finalized in nineteen ninety-five Lorena steered away from anything having to do with John or any reference to the well-publicized end to their marriage but her relationship with John had obviously left scars. In in December of Nineteen ninety-seven police arrived at L- Arenas home where she lived with her family. Her parents and brother had moved from Venezuela to be closer to her and they all live together in Woodbridge Virginia. The police were called after an argument between the arena and her mother turned physical goal. Lorena was arrested and charged with assault. She stood trial a few months later but the judge found her not guilty her mother. I didn't want to testify against her. And she said both of them were at fault for the fight. In the following years Llerena continued to live with her parents. Work as a manicurist go to therapy and attend community college at College. She met a man named Dave bellinger. They became team friends and soon after started a romantic relationship. Meanwhile John was having trouble trouble securing any kind of stability in nineteen ninety eight. The thirty one year old was hired as a celebrity greeter at the moonlite. Bunny ranch brothel author and Mound House Nevada. Just outside of Carson City but he was fired just a few months later for having sexual contact with the women who work there after losing his job John and his cousins went to the home of the brothel manager. Susanne Gwen John. He said that he was just there to plead for his job. Back Gwen said he threatened her. She called the police and then obtained a restraining order against him. A few months later he was arrested along with two of his cousins in connection with a scheme to steal one hundred and forty thousand dollars worth of clothes close from a department store eventually pled guilty to attempted Grand Larceny and accepted a plea bargain to avoid felony charges. He was placed placed on five years probation and order to complete one hundred hours of community service around this time. John decided to return to his hometown. Town of Niagara New York where he hoped he'd have fewer brushes with the law. He brought his new girlfriend does array loose with him in November of nineteen ninety nine. John was arrested in New York News. Reports at the time provide few details. They only mentioned mentioned that he was taken into custody after shoving disarray against the wall but according to Desharnais John Nearly killed her he beat her her with various in the apartment he dragged her across the room and pushed her out onto the balcony then hunger over the edge by her limbs when he pulled her back inside deserie said he tied her to the bed raped and sodomized her. He told told her that she was his Lorraina now and that she could not escape him. After three days of what desert called almost endless torture she played dead until John Untied Her as soon as she was loose she fled the apartment but at the time for whatever reason then he didn't make an accusation of rape in November of nineteen ninety nine. John was charged only with harassment while L. awaiting trial. He spent seventeen days in jail before posting. A fifty thousand dollar bond at the trial. Prosecutors called a neighbor testify the neighbor had witnessed John Dragging deserie through the apartment buildings Hallway John was found guilty but sentenced to no additional jail. Time the seventeen days he had already served or deemed a sufficient penalty. John's repeated court appearances did not deter him from his quest to keep his name alive in the public consciousness he attempted to become a stand up. Comedian and an actor but other than a guest appearance on the ABC Sitcom Norm. He was unable to launch a sustainable career. He moved back to Las Vegas. Nevada took a job as a driver ever for a moving company and sought out other ways to make headlines in May of two thousand one John Now thirty four years old said he plan to file a motion with the Prince William Court and Virginia to obtain the kitchen knife used to sever his penis. He wanted to sell it he he told reporters. That knife is a huge part of American history and it might be a collector's item although he hadn't unspoken till arena in years. He said he liked to reach out to her he said. I'm sure it's in both our interests to auction it to a collector. Lorena China did not comment on this request. Unfortunately for John his demand was denied and the knife was destroyed around around that same time. John was remarried to a woman named Joanna Farrell less than two months after their wedding. Joanna said that John threw her onto onto the floor and drove his knee into her back causing a broken tailbone and finger. John was later convicted of battery on these charges. A year later in two thousand four he again went to court on charges of battery against his fourteen year old stepson but he was acquitted despite finding John Not guilty. The judge expressed frustration that John had not completed court ordered anger management classes in September of the following year. John was arrested on another charge against his wife. Joanna he was accused of chasing her and pushing her to the ground during an argument humint but he was acquitted after a judge ruled that his wife had not been injured at the trial. John admitted that he displayed a pattern of domestic mastic. Violence against women he characterized it as a problem with judgment after this incident. John filed for divorce course at about the same time Lorena Gale and her boyfriend. Dave bellinger were purchasing a home together in Loudon County Virginia. In two thousand six. They had a baby girl together. Two years later thirty nine year. Old Llerena founded a nonprofit called laurynas red wagon later renamed the Lorena Guy. Oh Foundation aimed at helping domestic violence victims. She trained as a domestic violence facilitator and volunteered at homeless shelters as she leaned into advocacy she became more comfortable doing public appearances. Lorena had stayed quiet for fifteen years but she felt that by returning to the public eye. She might be able to bring more attention to her. Or 'cause she appeared on programs like Oprah and the Steve Harvey Show to talk about her experiences. She said she hoped her appearances would encourage courage women to learn from her mistakes on several of these programs. Lorraina expressed bafflement at the fact that John Still sent her letters. Valentine's Day cards and phone. Messages she mused maybe he thinks we're still married. John denied effort sending anything and claiming that a friend was leaving her messages. Lorena kept many of the letters and cards John Center but she never responded in two thousand nine forty year old Lorena agree to appear with John on the ABC News program the insider when she brought up how John had hurt her her during their marriage. He responded I really didn't know how sensitive you were. You take things really seriously After the appearance Lorena returned to her life her daughter her long term boyfriend and her advocacy work. John took up celebrity boxing. Neither John Nor lorraina have made many headlines in the last this decade but this past year monkey Paul productions and Sonar entertainment produced a four part documentary series on the couple which was released on on Amazon Prime Video. Both John and Lorena agreed to be interviewed for the series Alina and her family even attended a screening of the documentary. Documenting at the Sundance Film Festival. Lorena squeezed her thirteen year old daughter shoulder as they sat through the screening. She didn't like this. She had never shared all of the details of her life with her child. She thought the girl was too young to know everything. Her instincts were to shield killed. Her daughters is but she resisted the impulse. Perhaps this was important. Perhaps it would bring them closer together. Lorena felt her boyfriend's arm. Encircle her and she leaned her head on his shoulder before the screening she had felt so poised meeting with reporters and giving interviews but now as she watched her story unfold surrounded it by her family. She felt her guard drop. Tears came to her eyes and she let them fall. It was a bittersweet moment and but her heart was full. The documentary entitled Lorraina was released in February of two thousand nineteen the reviews reviews were mostly positive to lorraine as relief. She never forgot about the derisive taunts of late night. TV hosts COMEDIANS and radio show personalities finalities that haunted her throughout the nineteen nineties..
Judge temporarily blocks California's forced arbitration law
"A new state law banning mandatory arbitration for new employees will not be going into effect on January first the law is being challenged by the U. S. in California chambers of commerce among other groups and a federal judge has granted their request for an order temporarily blocking enforcement plaintiff's attorney Donald Falk argues the laws preempted by the federal arbitration act good reason the governor brown it showed a nearly identical set of restrictions so last year the Los author assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez accuses big business of trying to force job seekers into signing away their rights in order to get hired the substantive rights are not affected right against discrimination alive again other types of unlawful treatment aren't given nothing at all in arbitration was given up the search a different form of the session just as good for employers and a lot quicker cheaper for everyone there's another hearing in the case that for
Judge temporarily blocks California's forced arbitration law
"A new state law banning mandatory arbitration for new employees will not be going into a fax on the first the law is being challenged by the U. S. in California chambers of commerce among other groups and a federal judge has granted their request for an order temporarily blocking enforcement plaintiff's attorney Donald Falk argues the laws preempted by the federal arbitration act good reason the governor brown it showed a nearly identical set of restrictions so last year the Los author assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez accuses big business of trying to force job seekers into signing away their rights in order to get hired the substantive rights are not affected right against discrimination alive again other types of unlawful treatment aren't given nothing at all in arbitration was given up the search a different form of the session just as good from four years and a lot quicker cheaper for everyone there's another hearing in the case that for
Judge temporarily blocks California's forced arbitration law
"Office a ban on mandatory workplace arbitration for new employees in California is now on hold a federal judge has issued an order temporarily blocking the new law from taking effect on January first the U. S. in California chambers of commerce are among the groups challenging the law in court clearly preempted by the federal arbitration act plan just attorney Donald Falk says they're confident they will prevail assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez authored the law the San Diego Democrat says in a statement when both parties choose arbitration freely it can be a highly effective tool but it doesn't work when corporations say you won't be hired unless you sign away your rights which is what big businesses trying to accomplish with this lawsuit the general misconception by the plants are and their allied politicians the only way for workers and consumers to get redress of their grievances incidents through the greatest expenditure of legal fees possible arbitration is more efficient justice for on a lot quicker another hearing in the case is set for next week click your best Utah KNX ten seventy
"lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion
"Over over the next few weeks. She moved things out of the apartment. She told neighbors she was donating clothes and furniture if they wanted to come by and take what they liked. It seemed that she was finally preparing airing to walk out of her marriage on Saturday. June nineteenth nineteen ninety-three. Marina ran into a neighbor Diane Hall. She told Diane that she he was moving out and looking for a new place to live the next day. John's friend Robert. Johnston arrived to stay. With the BOBBITT's Robert noted that Lorena China was moving boxes out of the apartment. He said the couple seemed strained and that they were ignoring each other on Monday. June twenty-first Lorraina went to the Prince William County courthouse. She filled out paperwork to obtain a protective order against her husband. She was worried about what John had said that he would track her down down even if they split up at the courthouse the clerk helped her fill out the paperwork then let her know it would take some time to type up and entered the order into the computer system. Lorena told him that she couldn't stay but that she might return on Wednesday to complete the process. She may have decided sided to wait because she had not yet found her own apartment and was still living with John. Lorena might have realized that if she filed the protective order that day they they would have had to separate immediately before she was ready to move out the next morning John and Robert were gone when Lorraine awoke up. John had gotten a job. Unloading trucks at a food warehouse and secured Robert Temporary work there as well. Lorraina went to work at the Nail Salon as usual. When she came came home? The men were still out. John was supposed to work a second job that evening as a host at a nightclub but he was told it was a slow night and he wasn't needed he and Robert decided to go out for drinks instead lorraina. Meanwhile had a quiet night at home. She visited with her downstairs. There's neighbor Ella Jones and talked about her marriage. Miss Jones had overheard several incidents of violence and she was worried about Lorraina when the arena opened up about the abuse. Miss Jones told her that she could come spend the night at her place but she was an elderly woman with several health problems and the rain. It did not want to make more trouble for her. She thinks Miss Jones for the offer. Then she went back to her apartment and went to bed after drinking several several beers. John and Robert left the bar around one thirty a M. They had a meal at a Denny's restaurant then returned to the Maplewood Park apartment around three. Am in the early hours of Wednesday. June twenty third Llerena said that she woke up to find her husband on top of her her he had ripped off the shorts and underwear. She was wearing and forced himself onto her. She said she tried to cry out but he shoved his tongue so afar down her throat. She thought she was going to vomit. She kept shaking her head no but he ignored her and raped her afterward he pushed her away arena said she cried and asked him why he did this tour. He told her to leave them alone and let him sleep. Llerena pulled on her clothes and got out of bed. Her head roiled as unwanted images flashed through her brain. She couldn't stop the barrage of memories the first time John hit her kicked her choked her and all the times after hundreds of instances seared into her mind she tried to calm herself down to stop her body from shaking to stop the pictures from flooding leading to her brain but it was impossible. She was so tired and angry. She had reached her limit. She was desperate to escape to be rid of John but it seemed impossible. The whole he had on her felt like a heavy cloak on her shoulders. She couldn't simply shrug it off. It's suffocated her. She felt terrified that she would never be free. Llerena went into the kitchen. She thought a glass of water might help settle her nerves as she opened the refrigerator the the kitchen filled with light. LLERENA turn towards the counter to grab a glass instead. The first thing she saw was a knife if she reached out and wrapped her fingers around the handle it felt smooth and cool in her hand when she returned to the bedroom. She took the knife with her. Thanks again for tuning into crimes of passion. We will be back Wednesday with the next episode on John and Lorena Bobbitt. We'll discuss Halloween. A- ended her marriage and the trials and media storm that came after you can find more episodes of crimes of passion as well as all of our casts other shows on spotify defy or your favorite podcast directory. Several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show. The best way to help is to leave a five star review. Don't don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. When True Love Meets True Crime mm-hmm crimes of passion was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media? And is part of the podcast network it is produced by Maxon Ron Cutler with sound design by Kerry Murphy Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Liebskind additional production assistance by Maggie Admire and currently madman in. This episode of Crimes Of Passion is written by Christina. Pay Me's I'm Lena. Hobbs.
"lorena" Discussed on Crimes of Passion
"Irma. Castro recognized that she was an old fashioned woman woman. Her teenage daughters sometimes scoffed at her rules and admonitions but she believed that it was important to race them with a firm hand. Young young people could be so foolish and impulsive. They need sensible adults to guide them to ensure they didn't stray into harm. That's that's what Irma feared for Lorraine Guiso even though Lorena wasn't her biological child. Irma was responsible for her and she was becoming coming concerned by some of the changes she noticed in the last few months Lorena was acting differently ever since she met that young man in the marine core and Irma's opinion. The boy just wasn't responsible when he came to visit Lorraina he didn't show the right kind of respect. Erma kept track of the Grades Arena earned at community college and she had noted that since Llerena started hanging out with him she had gone from getting as and BS. These two APPS and Irma's daughters told her he never seemed to have any money he was sponging off arena like a Leech inch that wasn't how a proper courtship should go. Of course lorraina wouldn't hear anything of it. She just kept saying she she loved him. Irma didn't know what to do she would never let that mandate one of her own daughters. She knew that Lorraina was on a bad path and she was afraid for her but if the young woman wouldn't listen to reason there was nothing Erma can do but pray for Llerena Guy. Yo in John Wayne Bobbitt.
"lorena" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69
"In Nineteen Eighty seven twenty year old. John joined the Marine Corps. John said that his military career blunted his ability he to feel empathy saying because Emma Combat Marine. I'm trained not to feel emotions. It's really hard for me to understand a person who has a a lot of feelings. He later claimed that his marital problems with the arena were partly caused by his lack of sensitivity. But this didn't seem to be a problem at the start of their relationship. Llerena was just happy to have his attention. After about ten months of dating twenty two year old John and twenty year old Lorena arena. Were married a justice of the peace. Perform the legal ceremony on June eighteenth nineteen eighty nine. The couple settled into a small all studio apartment and Manassas Virginia out of the Castro's home and no longer burdened by chaperones and restrictions. John and Lorena Grena could finally build an intimate relationship together. As husband and wife. They seemed happy together. But that was quick to change will talk about John and Lorraine `as disastrous marriage coming up now back to the story in nineteen eighty eight twenty one year old Marine Corps Lance Corporal. John Wayne Bobbitt met nineteen year old. Lorena Cayo a young woman. Men who had recently immigrated to the United States from Venezuela they had palpable chemistry and after less than a year of dating they decided added to get married but the marriage turn sour almost immediately. They moved into a small studio apartment but they couldn't afford to furnish furnish it for the first month of their marriage. They slept on the floor from John. Wayne Bobbitt's perspective. This was the start of their problems. Laurino wanted too much too fast. John said that Llerena was angry that he could not provide more for her to her. The American dream meant being successful and having a big house bull arena told a different story. She was concerned by John's behavior very early in their marriage. She has said that the first cracks began to appear just a few weeks after they moved in together during the July Fourth Holiday John John Lorena took a trip up to Niagara Falls to visit John's family according to Llerena. John didn't tell her that his family had planned special wedding reception reception and picnic at their local church. The newlyweds arrived at delete missing the celebration when they got there. Everyone was furious. Areas it will Serena's first introduction to John's family. All she could say was. I'm sorry I didn't know after staying hanging Niagara for three days. John Lorena returned to Manassas. They did not go back alone. John's cousin Todd Bairo accompanied them. John told Lorena that his cousin was going to live with them for a while. LORRAINA was upset. Todd was a stranger to her. She tried to tell John's family that they lived in a tiny studio apartment without any furniture. She felt that they weren't in a position to host guests below arena. said her husband didn't care. Todd was going to move in with them whether she liked it or not. Soon after marina found drug Paraphernalia Korea and their apartment she discovered that todd was a convicted felon and addicted to cocaine and even bigger problem was todd's influence influence on John while he stayed with them. The two men went out drinking nearly every night. She said that about a month into their marriage. She asked to join the men on one of their nights out. According to Lorraina the group tried to go to a club called Chelsea's Washington DC but they were turned away because they're retired didn't fit the dress code. They decided to go to another bar were taught in John drink beer and took several shots. When it was time time to go home they all returned to the car and John got behind the wheel? Lorena recalled that John sped down is sixty six at over over ninety miles per hour. Recklessly weaving across lanes other drivers beep their horns in veered to get out of their way at one point joynt. She was so afraid they were going to crash. She grabbed the steering wheel according to Lorraina. That's when John Punched her. She started to cry as John Screamed obscenities at her todd sitting in the backseat simply nodded in approval at Johns Tirade aid. Lorraina reported that when they got home John dragged her to their apartment and began to kick her slap her and pull her hair a security guard. Officer Francis heard the disturbance in came to the apartment when John opened the door. His demeanor changed completely suddenly. He grew quiet and got his temper. Under control. Officer Francis Saul Llerena crying and asked her. If she had anywhere else she could go. She told him she was leaving but she was too embarrassed to go to a friend's house. She didn't want anybody to know what had happened instead. She drove to the parking lot of the salon where she worked and slept in her car. John in his cousin as in todd remember that night differently. They confirm Lorena Story. The three of them tried to go to a DC nightclub Chelsea's and that they were turned away because because John was wearing sneakers. Batat said let Lorraina became enraged when the bouncer wouldn't let them in. He claimed she punched in scratch. John Across the face. Todd set Llerena continued to attack John when they got home. He did not mention a visit from officer Francis. He said that he left them alone in their apartment and waited in a parking lot for them to calm down then he came back inside and went to bed. After the incident Lorraina Lorraine tried to talk to John to communicate that it was unacceptable to hit her. She said that John kind of apologized which gave her hope that she had had gotten through to him about a month later. The couple took a weekend trip to ocean city Maryland. They brought todd along as well as Laurynas friend and coworker Terry mccumber. The group was walking along on the beach when John Thought he heard a man whistle at the women he grew furious. Lorena Llerena said. John grabbed her by the hair and pulled her to their hotel. Terry mccumber confirmed marinas account of the trip horrified by the way John. John Treated Lorena. She yelled attempt to stop but John ignored her and told the women that they were going home. John went back to the hotel to pack up there things. He ordered the group into the car and they began to. Dr Terry said that on the drive home. She witnessed John hit and punch Llerena while she cowered in the passenger seat Terry again screened at John to stop but he wouldn't listen. He told Terry that if she didn't shut up he'd leave her on the side of the highway. John denied that he hit lorraine during the trip but he admitted that he became angry with her. He said that while he was driving through traffic ethic Lorraina and Terry were sitting together in the back seat looking out the window and flirting with men they saw in the cars passing by them on the highway. She did not not explain why he perceived their behavior to be flirtatious. He recalled feeling angry in ocean city but claimed that he didn't remember any other details of of the trip. After they dropped Terry off and return to their apartment. John continued to beat Llerena until she fled the apartment. She stayed with Terry that night but she returned the next day. Jason be writing a professor of marriage and family therapy at Brigham Young University scientist religious and family pressure as one of the most common reasons that women stay in abusive relationships in two thousand twelve study by associate professor of psychology policy at Brigham. Young University Nuwakot Yamawaki research suggested that social stigma and fear of being judged often deter victims stems from leaving their abusive spouses at that point. Lorena and John. We're still newlyweds. Only married a few months. She did not want to admit her. Our marriage was already a failure. Divorce also went against her Catholic beliefs. So she stayed with John. She was pleased when his cousin as in todd finally moved out of their apartment a few weeks later but John and Laurynas lives did not improve by laurynas account. John lost his temper and beat her at least once a month especially when he was drinking she felt particularly terrified when he started to choke her wrapping his hands around her neck and digging his thumbs into her windpipe. Lorena Co workers reported regularly seeing bruises on her arms neck neck and face around the same time John and Lorena moved into a new house with more space. John said the move was L- arenas idea And Lorena said it was John's both of them have since called the move a mistake since the house cost more than they could afford worries about money he added to their tension then in the spring of Nineteen Ninety twenty one year old Lorraina became.
Lorena weakens to a tropical storm as it nears mainland Mexico
"In his spare those couples resorts on the southern tip of Baja California it's been downgraded to a tropical storm as it heads for mainland Mexico and
Lorena spares Los Cabos, heads up coast of Mexico's Baja
"Lorena is now a category one hurricane the storm is headed toward Mexico's Baja California peninsula with maximum sustained winds of seventy five miles an hour it has a bead on the resort town of Cabo
"lorena" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA
"You know who you're listening to right? Now Her name is Serena McKinnon's Llerena McKenna she is a Canadian singer and probably the. Best along. With Gordon Lightfoot interviewed Gordon here not long ago Llerena McKenna is very special to me and her music is very special to me I was, actually. Talking to, Gordon Lightfoot couple of weeks. Ago and I mentioned Lorena McKenna needs simple you know she kind of dropped out she. Was there and, then she, was gone. And I reflected on that a little, bit and I said you know you're right Wound heard much, from Lorena, McKenna lately And I, got a fax from her office today. Which is kind of interesting and tragic and I had no idea Canadian singer Lorena McKinnon's who songs. Have helped popularize Celtic music is donating the proceeds of her new album, to a fund to promote water safety following, the drowning of her fiance last year Mccan, it's double, CD live, in Paris and Toronto was originally available only by mail, from here her a Quinlan road company but now, it's going to be released commercially next. Month so we've all got. Some more. Lorena mcennett to look forward to and again it's a double CD called live in Paris and Toronto which is I guess what she, does not a bad life all in all That's, the news, on marina McKinnon and I had no idea she lost her fiance In. A drowning accident and That is is the thing of which ghosts are made in her music when you listen to it has has that. Kind, of flair to it I I don't know exactly sort of Sort of At times haunting At times it gyp Shen, Celtic.