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Lonzo Ball

The Woj Pod

34:49 min | 1 year ago

Lonzo Ball

"Welcome in to another edition of the Word Pot here Miami with Pelicans Point Guard. A lot of ball are used to hearing that yet pelicans point guard now really I want to hear it for the first time and I gang but got a nice ring to Lonzo the this time of the year. We're recording this. You know a couple of days here before the start training camp we're in Miami. You've got a place down here and your spend some time here before you go back to New Orleans to have media day start camp. Is your body started like you start to feel like your body Tony Tony. I'm like you have a clock in there. That knows it's time to start playing like you're building up through the summer. Do you feel that going in your third year that like you just your your body reacts to the timing of this time of year for sure especially with me. Doing we have pretty much all summer trying to get right this training camp good to finally be able to get cleared you know beyond the court the last two weeks full-contact so I'm looking forward to it got to Miami for a couple of days just to get away for a little bit before you know long season starts the the open gyms you've been in New Orleans and got a practice silty there. That's been redone and you've got a real interesting. Mix Of you know obviously obviously Zion Williamson but some other rookies that are really interesting really talented. The veterans who were their gods like drew holiday who's all star level player and then the group of guys who came came from the Lakers and the trait you josh heart and you know that group coming in what is open gym like when you've got all these guys trying to get you know three first round picks. You got a few guys in the trade and then the returnees and then free agents. Jj Red comes in as a free the agent what's like the open gym like is all. These groups are starting to sort of get to know each other and figure out how you're GONNA be a team. That's exactly what it is much. You guys coming together from different parts of China Hanamaki team work. Click and open gem teams always mixed up but always ends up being competitive because everything you need in my opinion. You got the young guys you got the. That's a lot of talent. A lot of people like to work on when the trade happened and then Zion gets drafted. They normally pick they're gonNA Take Zion Williamson. The first thing everybody was talking about one of them was Lonzo Ball to Zion in transition. What has it been. I like playing with him so far and seeing kind of building a chemistry with him and seeing it at times you'll be able to place a two man game with him a little bit whether it's you know in the open court certainly or even a half court yeah. I mean he thrives in both honestly pick her and a half quarters amazingly him you can hit him on a short roll. You not the way for him to get away to the basket and he's much more than the dunker playmaker. I can give him the ball. He takes dribbles either. Take off or find a man in a corner and thrown on some folklore lobs. pretty much has got to play anywhere where the backboard uh-huh cancer and that's the thing with him and I think what has he's unlike anything. Most people have seen. There's never been a player exactly like him and I think it may be made it hard to new project him in some ways but the one thing constant they all talked about a duke and you saw it in the Games and they said it was in the practice was just his motor whatever he was on the floor and you know you'd see in college. He'd make up ground across court to close out block a shot. Do you see that in that open gym setting. I I feel like whenever he touches the court. instinct is just to play hard. I mean no matter what might not make every shot but he's always gonna go out there and give it his all no matter what the suddenness you talked about spending time rehabbing getting healthy injuries in your two years in a league anything different about how you've approached this offseason physically diet conditioning things that maybe help you know might help stave off injury this summer for me the biggest thing that's probably diet because I couldn't really run as far as condition. I couldn't do much other than like the bikers but I don't think die played a big role in it got itself you know on China may shocking lassos eighty two ditching what what was the pre Pelicans Diet like for you like early in the man regular food. I used to eat back and Chino Jack in the box in and out just regular stuff like that and then right you know New Orleans. That's always the threat like there's a lot of restaurants. Does it help. Do you think they have a chef in that city because you can go out and get off that you're out of telling me you know. Make sure you get a chef especially eh while he was telling me you know you can pick up quick tempered so coming into New Orleans with a big group that came as part of the trade the bond. That's there there with you. Guys who went through the trade talks for mostly a year before the Davis trade happened. Is there a unique bond with your group because you went through a lot and then you end up going to a new place to all start over together. Definitely I mean be I you know we had a big role back. La I be able to come over here with them. I was happy that you know he came with me. I know he's happy with him so I'm looking forward to it. We can do this year you and Brandon you know your games. There's a feeling both may really Alvin gentry system how you're going to play here and then more prominent certainly growing in your career having more prominent prominent roles that having him come here with you and having gone through all that it's probably feel different than if you just got traded by yourself to a new team team that you sort of walk in the gym with especially with Brandon for sure a Mamie be I've been together last two years help that were friends off the court as well so it's always nice when it gets shipped somewhere and then you've got somebody that you know comfortable with and the only thing we haven't played together at five on five only thing but I mean you know having him in Gem. I know no he's about you know that I'm about and we complement each other very well at what point in La Lonzo did it feel like to you. My my future probably isn't here. What was it once. The name of Anthony Davis asked for trade and those trade talks start. Did your group guys to say. Did you feel it was inevitable that it was inevitably. They were going to do this deal or you never quite sure whether it'd be there. It'd be somewhere else I mean. I never one hundred percent share. I had to fill in all star break. I feel like the injury kind of like did it for me like in her twice in a row and not being able to pretty much leads prove myself season you know the time like the playoffs and I couldn't help her so after that and then with the trade talks about I thought star break night a good feeling you know having grown up grown up in Chino Hills yet planet. UCLA getting drafted second overall by the Lakers. You know when that draft order under comes out when you're in college and you see okay. It's set up pretty well for me. Did it feel like this is a story. Book like this is like you know. I'm on my whole career in southern California when when you're that when you're coming out of. Ucla and magic is talking about. You're talking about Your Jersey being up in a in the rafters someday with greats there. Is that what it feels like at that age facilities like a like a dream. Come true kind of like movie. Honestly I mean it'd be able to stay the Home Depot career pretty every once you know just being comfortable in the city on my family's out there and got the best plan guard of all the time talking about it's GonNa put Your Jersey in Iraq author so I mean at that time I was like shocked that is all planned on the team last year and you you knew Lebron wanted Anthony Davis to get Anthony Davis. You have to trade good players and you gotta trade picks the tension that existed in the locker room. Do you think it was more like individual. Oh guys because everyone's GonNa handle that differently. There's very few guys at that age who've ever been told there's someone better than you or the whole thing's not built around you. It's it's jarring starring when you're young to be told there's going to be out. Somebody better did impact the guys who are in the talks as a group or did certain guys is take it differently like how did you handle that. I can't speak for everybody. I know as far as myself just being a kid from out there and knowing how Elliot always pretty much has a star anytime. You have a chance to get basically a tough guy illegal. You'll make that that's right so familiar. Just motivation like I. I WANNA be one year when nobody can touch me. I'm safe on that so for me. It was just you know it is what it is go to New Orleans restart fresh start and just have a bigger role. Honestly you know this week there was our draft analyst John Voting on Australia and saw your brother Lamelo mellow playing at a really high level there and you talk to NBA people and he's in the conversation not just to be a top five pick in the draft but but maybe compete for the number one overall spot when you look at the path he's taking now nontraditional right Lithuania Australia you went the most traditional path southern California star you go to. Ucla you get drafted. How different has it been for him and and as is an older brother you feel like you've maybe live Suu through some things. He has seen what you've gone through. We've all gone through a lot together. That might make it the path a little easier for him. You kind of cleared cleared the way a little bit on a lot of things whether it's going to be the kind of shoe deal he's going to do the kind of endorsements all those things things that you've had a fight through and get to and and maybe there's a clear lane for him to to walk through so as part of being big brother. You know I take all the steps eight to get where you need to go and show them the way to get there. I'm obviously it's a little different with the goals the same at the end and then it ended today you know he can pick them off the phone anytime you can call me he wants to be number one pick number two so. I know what it takes to get there. Basically I tell them. Just keep your head on straight. You know you're young. I don't don't have many followers as he had you know at that age but I kind of know is like to be in the spotlight all the time so anything I can do to help him always talked to you know make sure he's he's doing. We're supposed to be doing and as far as his path. I mean I didn't go overseas but not a play basketball. I know which is supposed to do you know when you're in between line so long as it keeps listening and duties. Do you have the talent when you look back he because he obviously didn't have couch eligibility. He couldn't have gone to play at. UCLA or duke wherever any choices you had you like that. You played that one year of college. Do you look at that and say or what have liked to have played in Australia at that. Aged is one path preferrable to the other. I think everybody's situation is different for him. He couldn't we felt if he went to college. He wasn't going Miller play so it was like he had no choice besides Australia China or something like that. I saw him actually when we was out here I talked to him or do you want to do in all this breaking it down so you only have so many options for me the option. Ma Sense was good at UCLA I felt like that pretty much at the two I needed to be so I think when you're two brothers went to Lithuania urine your rookie year and I mean they were young young. A young guys and your dad was there and it wasn't as if they were there alone but what was that like sort of seeing them go off and the concern you have because that's that's not the easiest place in the world at that age to be a kid grew up in southern California to be off. They're playing and having bring it all documented all the time like what what was that like watching from however many five thousand miles away who is going to be tough especially on a little one. He was like fifteen sixteen at the time. You know going over there. He's never been you know out of. USA So I know it's GonNa be tough for him. I wasn't too worried about Jello. He's older. You're not take care of yourself so I wasn't worried about him but I was very relieved to see that he had a chance to come back home and you know being kind of like a high school kid again inspire. You're he called me right. When he figured out he can come back and he was really happy. So I've had failed Lamelo will be able to negotiate you know a a big kind of a big traditional shoe deal right you know the Nikes adidases the brain drain all he's got something that a lot of the college players who come out don't having that's everybody knows who he is right and that helps a lot and like you said they knew who you were and you go to. Ucla and you make a deeper in the NCAA tournament and you get drafted by the Lakers as you were set up however you want to do a shoe deal but for him while his path is in his traditional said he's in Australia and other guys have been doing that. RJ's down down there now and there's been other guys who've who've done that is part of you that because of what you went through with big baller and doing cashew deal the way you did it. He's not going to have to deal with all of that stuff. You had to that that that's going to be a benefit for I mean he gets to go through the real expo the process. I mean when I was coming out. We were just working on my shoe. Big baller brand. That's what it was. I didn't take any meetings or anybody else and it was already kind of sad for me but for him. It's a long time like you know you'll have a chance to go talk to Adidas. Go Talk to Nike Puma. Everybody take every meeting and then whoever wants to most postman go down. I told him make sure he takes his career now. Don't wait like I did so I mean. Hopefully that helps him. He seems like he's taking it. All in. I'm excited for looking back. How would you have done it differently. You said him taking control of it now the way you hadn't looking back would you have gone and done. All those fissures shot one hundred percent. I mean that's that's part of it. You know and you work your whole life. You know to be able to even have a opportunity to be sponsored by shoe. Brand is is amazing south. I mean I'm not GonNa say I regret not take anything at the end of the day was in our family business and I was was doing what I could you know to try to boost it and it was actually pretty good when I was coming out of UCLA so I don't regret anything but as far as living life and learning you know I'm glad that I to help him and give him feedback on. What you know. Already weren't doing what I feel like. You know. It'd be a better. NFL would you look at. I'm sure you hear this from people. All the time and I'm I'm sure people who are trying to whether it was agents who are recruiting you that whoever saying Hey Lonzo like you're going to get a rookie shoe deal. That's unlike most because of your profile your talent you know the Lakers being picked. I'm sure you had an idea of those. Numbers might look like is is that the hard part of it is that was it that it cost you money in the end or was it that maybe you didn't get to career it all out and make a decision for yourself. Nike Adidas Whomever Verse Going Down the Big Ball right all about the money is more about just being in the process. I mean on out there running on out there playing so just had the option to pick what I WANNA. Do you know what I'm saying so for him. uh-huh said I want him to soak it all in and enjoy enjoy the process you talked about this and you went through it like you're trying to play as a rookie in the NBA with shoes shoes that are just really test tissues. They're not really they haven't been through the rigors that all the shoes go through and like you said like they would break or they weren't you could wear them for a little while and when you have to think of that time about you're just trying to like mostly you're just into the NBA and all the things that go with it but you gotta keep thinking about like what's going on like. Do I need to change this quarter at halftime. When you look back at it was that all bigger maybe a bigger burden within that needed to be or like you like that took took more to me than even it felt like then because it was something nobody else was having to deal with. I mean yeah it was different but at the same time I mean we're trying to build a brand and they were in my shoes so I had to wear them and there was no shoes. We had some relief. There was no way those are going to make it to the the NBA Cordeiro. Miller sees but you know grateful. We got to leak out with brand black and got me a better shoe but yeah I mean just just convert playing playing toby's my whole life so switch it up right. When I get pretty much less age. I was a little different from me and I don't make any excuses. I don't regret anything anything I did. The the lessons you learned going through this like trying to be the face of of business and trying to be a to me. There's a few positions in the all pro sports is like quarterback with the Dallas cowboys. Maybe like shortstop for the New York Yankees and I think one of them is point guard for the Lakers mm-hmm because of magic in the history to have to deal with all that and at the same time try to be the face of this brand where it's not going well trying to figure it out coming out on the other side of big baller like what do you think you learn the most about this business about cert- trying to take charge for yourself that you think you take the rest of the way with you. I miss a lot for nineteen year old. Kid You know coming out but I've been put a lot of I shoulder for a long time now on my family at least so I mean I I wasn't prepared for it but you know it's a lot to laugh especially being in. La La you know all they care about championships matter what so I know that growing up there and just watching the Lakers play my whole life so bill would not even make the playoffs and stuff because there was like. I never really been losing since I play basketball. I was the first year I had losing seasons so just try to get back that summer and come back and then I got hurt again so it's tough mentally you know just staying focused and kind of knowing that you're not going to be somewhere that you wanted to be that. You felt like you could help turn around but it is what it is. Everything happens for a reason and I feel that God put me and it was Asian now when you hear it from fans whether you're on the court or or you're out away from the arena like here the like hey you gonNa make the playoffs. Hey are you going to stay healthy that stuff. Would you get the big baller like hey I ordered them and they didn't come or did you have to hear like the business stuff too. When people would kind of players have to hear when they go anywhere I mean here and there I didn't get I didn't hear too much. I thought we got a lot of support. When I was coming out. lot of people just believing in the brain wanted to work because it was something different so I didn't get too many too many negative things about it. Honestly the you had on the I guess the most recent ball in the family show like there was that exchange with your dad that everyone kind of went viral and people keep talking about it because you've been on that the show's been part of your life and you've had your family dynamic play out in public and away most people don't I have to do with that conversation. You had is not unlike anybody talking a lot of different ways to their father their mother family except it was like cameras on it and you deal with it. You have to deal with different way. Did that one a couple of weeks ago feel like it. I don't know it. It got out there in a way that everybody was judging that conversation and what you know how you are what Your Dad said about your career was and the brand. Did that get reacted a two differently than almost anything else. You've done that show. Maybe yeah for sure I mean I think that was the most popular seeing on his show. It was everywhere aw life growing up you know he he has his ways. I have mine and we just got into it. I mean that's what fathers and sons do you know as time goes on at the end of the day. It's always love at the end you know. I know he loves me. I love him but it's not always going on. Everything and I want you hit set in one of recent every that you would talk to him. Maybe I talked as much since the trade and I I wonder if like you've said the big baller brand is for you. I think a little bit in your view mirror now going going forward and you know you changed agents and representation and you're with a new team do think maybe it gets easier because the role that your dad will play going forward is like azure father and maybe less as a business partner less as he was your coach for a longtime. You think that might make it easier. It's just it's just GONNA be more father son and maybe that simplifies some of those tensions that come out in a moment like that I mean like my dad's always been talking my whole life so I mean isn't that the difference to me. I think we'll makes it easier that I'm controlling. Everything now like you really can't tell me what to do. It is my life my career. You know I'm making all the decisions now. I chose to go see a you know so the thing mean becoming my own man is GonNa make it easier honestly. Where did it feel like for you. That's a decision. Didn't I'm GONNA make now. This is a route route. I'm taking was there. A moment was at the Ramona Shelburne done the story about Allen Foster's background who had been the business partner in big baller brandon think brought to us some things about his past that you had been aware of and there was money missing and I think your manager manager had come to you and said Hey we've got issues here and then that started the down the road but was that around the time reset. I gotta do this differently things. There was that whole situation went to brand and then my daughter. I feel like those two things kind of shaped me to what I am now. You know it's a lot different than the kid allies year so so between those two. I think that's what happening now. I what I know that moment of becoming a father and the impact of that of having a daughter how did that redirect. You're thinking when it came to your professional life. I'm just putting our I gotta do certain things. GotTa make sure her future is secure. Not Just my family now got her with me all the time so there's mega seriously as easy path possible you now on growing up and just doing everything. She wants to put him onto so I'm trying to put her in a position to do that. Meaning more to make sure that financially you're responsible is part of the thought my responsibility is her financially and and setting things up and more so than being in business with the rest of my dad but the rest of my family is is that sort of thinking of of just financially actually protecting yourself a sewer. I mean you want to grow up with no worries. Obviously not going to be problems in life. Everybody has them but my job is to make it easy for her as possible and that's what I'm trying to do your mother. Tina's had a difficult road. Here's the last couple of years suffered a stroke and is people know it's you know the rehabilitation and coming back from a takes awhile the stress that people talk about your dad a lot. He's been more in the public eye but the role your mom has played with you know with you and your your brothers and her having to deal with you know obviously a lot of scrutiny some of these ups and downs and then her own you what she's had to go through feels like it's been a little bit of an overlooked dynamic in your family of your relationship with her and and sort of helping her through this so sure everybody sees my dad in the media so thinks he has a big role and he obviously doesn't family but a Momma's person who held everything together. I mean has anybody knock family. He's the only person my dad listened to honestly so you know when she went down it was it was tough for everybody and you're this is the first time I've Seen My dad cry so you know it was tough on the family and it hits you different. You know obviously it's a it's a long journey. Emma witter you know the whole time. We know she's strong but you know it's tough being last couple of years seeing everything she has to go through you know especially with us being media time but she's strong and she's she's getting back ax rehabs. You know five times a week. she understands everything which is great and now it's just about getting their movement backing. You know we'll get the speech out. What was it like growing up in. Chino hills like before people saw you on the U. Circuit and Your Dad coaching and the the like before that what was it like growing up in that town a lot of fun lot of fine. I mean small town but you know a lot of friends there just much Kennedy just like to play play industry all the time so you couldn't see you know more details. You can just run for fine. We usages race all the time. We had a backyard. Everything you need a basketball hoop pool. We had like a little mini theater in the House and you know my parents. Cook Pretty Much neighborhood I so I mean growing growing up as a lot easier time. Sure you say talking about playing like you really were on guys. Get on that travel circuit. Batman is it is grueling that age. You know you're like me. You're not flying charter right. You're going places but playing like that like especially when you have brothers and they were younger and so they probably maybe at times tag along with you and your older friends was that as much fun as you had just like going around whether it's like pickup basketball L. football in the street whatever it is like where it was. There was no structure. There was no attention to it. You just played just play There's a bunch of kids having fun on a safe environment. You know it's amazing so looking back on it. You know the Great Times my brothers with me. All the time I mean I remember a date was ever separated. We used to always be together. The the bond you have with with your brothers and and you grew up together and all of a sudden you start like you know they go overseas and your college and your and the Lakers and now now you're in New Orleans being the older brother. You find those guys to leaning on you. Maybe even when you're not around every day. Maybe leaning on you even more to reach out and say you like Hey. How do I handle this. What do I whether it's with what do I. What do I tell my coach on this. Whatever it is that those guys maybe we need Egypt sometimes now than then when you take it for granted being around each other all the time for sure especially for mellow like him now or never just the most. He's called me since since he's separated pretty much so those guys are. I'll help them or anything to be basketball. You can come to me for whatever I mean. That's what I'm I'm here for. You know they always looked up to me the whole life. I don't think they'll stop now. What's the change like people who saw mellow play few years ago and like you'd see the tapes. It was like you know he'd be taken like you know forty five foot shod and it looked like he was young he was young right and it looked different and now like like in its maturity. It's he's grown physically probably in the way you grow at that age. How have you seen his game evolve and and when you all of a sudden you see him a kid now. Who is like on the cusp? Both you know being one two three four th pick in the draft. I mean just look at his game. no-one him much more mature and then that Grossberg them alive I mean he shot up for like five ten to like he told her to me about six seven now so between that and a talented already had already had everything you need to pick roll. He had to float her we could shoot now is just about making sure he making the right play every time. I've that's what he's trying to focus on on right now focusing on turnovers. I know his first game he went there. He had a couple more now alike but just just staying on the right path listening to Louis coaches because he knows he's down to kit every time except on the court but you know Salat morgantown everybody tellingly how different was it for him to deal with you a little bit older dealing with the attention and the scrutiny that came to your family was it hard on him to sort of figure out how to maneuver through all that was part of your responsibility with him because I can't imagine it was easy when you're the number two pick and you're GONNA like you're getting a ton of attention and it was times. I don't know five ten whatever it was because of you were in the ball family. I think as hard as on me me just because I was the first one I you know I had to find out everything Kinda. We gotTA worry my family. I made it to the League or that far so I'll kind of went through everything I so he he can. He can dodge a few bullets that I already took for them you know so. I mean as far as the followers gladden half following his age he's on Espn with ninety two who points and stuff so I mean it's just a little bit different for him but at the end of the day it's kind of the same I mean you know what I mean. It hasn't changed. The people don't change. You'RE GONNA have people like if you WANNA hate to the relationship that you have now with teammates you walk in with the Lakers and people people are wondering like whether it was like your coach or a teammate is Lavar going to be publicly critical of them and like I think guys in a league. Maybe oh you had to deal with early on like you become a target right. I'm going to go. I have this opinion of his dad but I'M GONNA go. Take it out on who hasn't said or done anything and is that how it felt then. Does it feel different now because you're at a different place in your career life than when you were just this target when you walk in the League yeah. I mean everybody always says when they meet me and finally get to know Hawaii night. We didn't think he was like this just because everything. My Dad doesn't immediately but I mean identity today. I I always tell people person like you know. Don't group me with anybody. Whatever you see for me is what you get and get to know me as always fine but deathly just come coming illeg. Everybody was trying to come at me for sure. was there any part of you that just said like the time. Can you help make this a little bit easier on me because I'm the one who has to go. Oh face westbrook tonight. I gotta go face Steph Curry. That's not necessarily helping me or was it. Just hey listen. This is who he is. I've dealt with it and I'll figure it out like was that was that ever a line. You had to walk no because that's all I knew play basketball. He always said you know. My son is the best anybody against them. You know don't matter so for me. It was just like his thing. He said it's just now he has cameras following honestly so for me dealt with at the best way out to actually go out there and play leading an NBA team. Tough guys are a lot older than you. More experienced your twenty one years old going into with with a new team. What have you learned about what it takes to lead a group of men in the NBA especially from your position. You GotTa talk a lot more just from my first year the second year. I saw how Rondo Rondo is always always talking. Whether it's good or bad he's always saying how and also guys respond to. I mean it's not nothing fake. It's just it's just what it is. Elite team and you know the way I lead is kind of like an example how my whole life go out there and do what I'm supposed to do in the guys fall in line but at this level you have to the biggest thing. Rondos you know he's. He's a really smart player. He sees things here like Anybody's played with them coached him has said he's. This is intelligible player that they've been around in the league like in. What ways would you see that with him that you say. I can take something from how he sees the game and how he studies it I mean I picked it up right when he got there right when he got into them building. We watched film together and he pretty much built donohoe Corta. If I wrote down a whole game just after asthma I know he was a little different and then just throughout the year he was doing the same thing every film session. Stop in practice to say something team and that's kind of picked it up like this guys in different knows what he's talking about. It and you can tell because the feedback on the player everybody was listening and it wasn't like he was just talking to be talking. He was truly China fifteen. We know down the road. How good good potential is for the PELICANS team and the it's a young team. You're still twenty. One Brandon Ingram is discerned to just twenty two right and obviously Zairean and the other rookies that are coming in but this year with this group in the gym and you know you know how good the West is and you know you've seen what it takes in this league to have you know the kind of talent that gets teams in the playoffs but this team this year. Maybe be better than chance. Maybe it'd be better than people I think so about to take one game at a time you know we in the West. There's no there's no off nice. When you think is off night is not you know you can lose any night and it's a long long year so I mean I think personally had a pieces to do it and you can go to where we need to go but my vice damages you know there's just take it step by step. I was going the F. is going to be downs but let's just stay on the right path and I think if we do that will be Okay Lonzo. This was this was a lot of fun. I appreciate you taking time to sit down. Good luck with Cam. I'm starting next week and I know we'll see down the road. This season appreciate it. Thanks thanks for listening to this edition of the Woge Pod a big thank you to our our guest. Pelicans Point Guard Lonzo Ball be sure to listen and subscribe to the ESPN podcast low post with Zach Lowe and and the hoop collective hosted by Brian Winters and of course you can subscribe and listen to archive editions of the woes pod. Wherever you get your shows. We'll catch next time

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"Now that is not true. How do you know you haven't challenged Johnson three pointers dies as more threes than I do? He's made a little more lately. We're just talking about such a great game us right between Milwaukee. Remember, Steve when we used to be involved with games like that. I was walking to the game yesterday. And I walked by the Ritz Carlton Mary ad. Ellie live will stay. There was a giant line of people outside the entrance. Just to get a glimpse of the warriors leaving the hotel and walking to the bus. And I said to myself that used to be us other so weird. So they take a bus from the Ritz to the game. Yes. Even though it's like because they don't have enough security to keep an eye on everybody walked out across the street. Like, Tim, ROY the guy who does what I do just walks across the street. Now, do they the fans that gather around are they trying to get autographs AR, but no one ever snow is us. And so they're back kouzmines stopped this last trip somebody yelled at coups, many still really with those people those autograph hounds are doing is. They're getting somebody to sign something. Then it's on EBay, ten minutes later. Right. And but but Michael still thinks that players should stop and sign. He says magic he's to stop and sign for everybody. But even though they know that it's going to wind up like Brian. Ranson told me that he's not signing any more autographs because what happened was as soon as they signed a picture of Heisenberg, it would wind up on EBay ten days later. So he said, I'm not doing it anymore. I'll take so fees with you all day long yet. I won't sign anything. Jerry Seinfeld won't even take selfie. And what he does it really throws people off especially people like you who who believe that. If there's not a picture it didn't happen. They will say, Jerry Seinfeld. Will you take a selfie? He says, no. But I'll have a conversation with which is great and people don't know what to do. Yeah. And while you sign. No, we we were when we went to see cranston's play. We went backstage Seinfeld. Was there? And I found him to be a really nice guy. But also so intimidating to me because I've watched them on TV for so long that I didn't exactly know what to say Dell. And I went to one year we checked into the hotel in San Antonio and right next to the hotel. There's a theater, right? And it said on the marquee one night only, Jerry Seinfeld, so Trudell, and I went on seatgeek and bought two tickets and went in and watched and he killed for an hour and a half. And never swore. No one time top of that. Jerry does not do topical mentor. Like, he's not going to go in and do a bunch of Trump jokes driving jokes about life. Really really really really tough to do. He is you know, he's part of he's he's one of the I'd say one of the top five comics of all time. Without question. All right. So last night, we should we should circle the highlights that we have Alex Caruso continues to ignite the Lakers to the great currency interest. Here is a great moment for him or KC kicks it to Rondo three pointer. They may got a piece of that. No good. Jim from the left corner. Where did he come from Michael apprise the wars? He sucked the warriors shop dove. Everybody going to Kevin Durant. Don't why won a follow by Alex Caruso, nutty little Alex Caruso. Good for him. Yeah. He's been great. He's I think he's cemented his place in the NBA. Whether it be with the Lakers or somebody else. But I think he's now going to be in the league. Yeah. Well, they say playing out the strings and sometimes when you play out the strings, you find you find somebody who can really play and he's one of those guys. So if there is an upside Alex Crusoes going to be grateful someday that the Lakers drifted out of the playoff right and allowed him the time to play the the most I I don't use this word very often magnificent moment of the game was this. Here's javale with a miss and now step steals it and throws it behind the back to Iran for a breakaway dunk. Spectacular highlight play by the warriors. That was a behind the back outlet pass. That was just no look the dot. Yeah. In and hit Durant in stride, any dunk. Those are moments to me that when I see him. I'm like, oh, see Golden State's just toying with people. They've got these clubs in their bags, and they're they're going to use them when they need them. Yeah. Houston fan really well to Houston blew out the clippers by thirty five on Wednesday night in the staple center. So I wanna throw so we see the clippers tonight. But like, for example, if Houston and the clippers play in the first round, right? I don't know if the clippers won a game. Maybe maybe that goes five, but maybe that. So that's a really tough. I think what you're gonna see over these next while the season ends Wednesday. Yup. For the Lakers ends Tuesday. But I think what you're going to see over the next. Few days is jockeying for position both up and down, for example. Everyone wants to play Portland. Yes. In the first round because they have to starters injured out right now if the season ended Utah would play Portland we see Utah tomorrow night. So Utah might not necessarily wanna get to the three. They wanna stay in the four. They want to stay in the four and the clippers may wanna play if you're the clippers. Would you rather play Denver Houston? Denver guess knee too. So maybe you rest some people to try and get to the seven, but it's going to be tricky because it's so tight. It's so close like right now CNN Tonio is the is the eight right. They would imagine you wanna get out of the eight anything you can do to get out of the thoroughly half game behind the thunder. So yeah, these last games are about position. You don't believe in tanking game to change your position. When you did, you know, what you call that tempting fate messing with the basketball guys, you tempt fate when you do that you should never tempt fate. There's a case who who did that clippers one year and worked didn't work that then they drew Denny one in Denver, and they got Denver. I remember that. So it can work. But yeah, I generally think just play hard through the finish line. And why have a big problem like saying people, say don't pile know don't. Run up the score. Well, if you don't want the teen around the score play defense, right? Never have Brummett. Anybody running up the score. When Carol was a USC eastwind game seventy seven. People would say well isn't good enough to win forty nine tonight? But you know, what they would do tell the second-string that to try -actly you tell the second-string to go out and play as hard as you can. And if the score gets run up, then that's on the other side. You don't leave your starters in necessarily Pete never left his starters. And he would go to his backups in the backups were so good. They would better than the other team starters. A couple of things right now callers number seven eight eleven thirteen and sixteen. Is there any method to pattern just eight eleven thirteen? How are you thinking matters? Just pick up the phone. I miss stickler for the rules, and I go one two will actually count out one through sixteen. Yep. What what is it again? Seven eight eleven thirteen six callers number seven eight eleven thirteen and sixteen look people call what they're calling for giveaway. A bag of San call. We have got an opportunity for you to win a four pack of passes to attend to be part of the Acura grand prix of Long Beach. 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Yes, I'm pretty working in all the time. Yeah. That's my number one focused just for you in John. What what guests did you line up for today show Ramona Shelburne at one o'clock, oh, that's that's hard work was looking Momo but producing his not booking a guest that you're living proof of that. Because it's not because that's not how it should be. Well, Greg what should producing be? This should be talking about topics and hashing out how the the show should sound with you every single day memorial five minutes. Yeah. That is the biggest part of it and keeping guys in line. Keep with the reeds on time with the brakes. There's a lot more stuff. The regional was first let's go with the brakes not in line general with the Brian knowing cares about the call one other note coming up to thirty day giving away another four pack of passage Z avengers and game at the regal cinemas in LA live, April the twenty six you come out and see it in my own private screening. We're going to provide you dinner from Carl's junior. They're serving up their new charbroil bacon. Truffle Angus burger before the movie will do that at two thirty today. And if you go to my Instagram account and Venice maced, I'm also giving away a four pack of tickets. They're all right coming up next. Lonzo ball. Did you see all this? Lonzo ball stuff. Yeah. Okay. With that. Well to hear it coming. I don't I don't know. Do you? Find it interesting. Do you care who people's agents? Are I care about Jiu even know who's like people's ages such Rich Paul is? I don't care about the agent part. I care about the lavar part. The lavar part is the interesting part, and we'll get into a next Mason Ireland ESPN LA. There was hope John there was hope. The maybe Lonzo ball was going to seize the reins of his career and run his own life. But today that appears not to be the case house so explained a week ago. Harrison gains told our Ramona Shelburne Harrison gains was lonzo's I agent and a young guy. He's twenty nine says he had always been on the periphery of the ball family business. But Lonzo has empowered me to take more active role in his career yesterday. They parted ways Harrison gains has been a trusted advisor and close friend for many years. He got it may NBA career with integrity and always had my best interest at heart. That's from Ramona Shelburne so changing agents on the surface, not a big deal. But it did. This is Christine's now seemed as if Lonzo ball was taking full career full control of his career by shaking, the grip of lavar ball after ridding themselves of and by the way, you know, your dad brings in a snake to your business. A guy who spent seven years in prison was a felon to run your big baller brand peration. Your dad really didn't do his job. I think that lavar is well intentioned but completely incompetent. And the the idea that he was somehow going to say enough, I'm running my own life now dad's not running my life. That idea was there. But now they are in the process of getting agents enduring meetings. Lavar is is requiring that the agent. Try to pair his three sons Lonzo liangelo and lamelo on the same NBA team. He's looking for the agent that will do that. Now. Nobody can do that LeMay somebody will say they can. Yeah. Lamelo, I think, and I and we don't know he's playing high school ball and Ohio. I don't I mean, I don't know from high school ball and Ohio for many years. But maybe he's got an NBA future. Right. It's possible possible. Liangelo does not I think that's accurate. He you know, can probably play in Europe. Right. But why would you condition searching for an agent on getting all three brothers on the same team? I think that's you know, it's blood runs thicker than water. I think that that that lavar is hanging onto that dream. But it doesn't mean it's going to happen. And I don't think it was realistic ever assume that Lonzo is going to completely cut ties not cut the way you phrase was cut it will break away from his dad break over his own career takeovers career. Yeah. I don't know if that was ever in that why would he not at this point? Why would he why would you not like what at what point in your life? Did you take control of your career and stop relying on your parents, probably younger than most? Yeah. To me to eighteen. I was like, hey, mom, dad. See later. I'm gonna go run my life. Is Lonzo better served to have somebody other than lavar again? Well intentioned, but completely incompetent running his life. Maybe, but I don't think it's realistic. I think that lavar we did it Kobe cut ties. This is interesting because you know, Aaron Rodgers is in the news and Aaron Rodgers basically cut his family off does not speak to anyone in his family and people go back and forth into bait. Whether or not that is fair game to talk about right? You know, the words is that just gossipy TMZ stuff. Or is that does that affect Aaron Rodgers and defect the Packers and everything else. That's absolutely grew with you. I think that I think that's something. I don't think that's nothing. It's not an accident that that Aaron Rodgers doesn't get along with this coaches and doesn't get along with his family and doesn't get along with a lot of his teammates. Like, it's part of our a grander. A grander view of things. I mean Aaron Rodgers is a phenomenal quarterback. But he sounds like a Royal pain in the ass. And I don't know how to explain lavar other than when lavar shows up at events, right? When the VAR shows up at a game, there is more attention on the VAR than there is on the court this weird sideshow yet. But in a way that won't go away. Right. And I think that Lonzo because it's his dad doesn't want to cut him off. So I think he has to let me lavar be lavar, but Lonzo seems to be fine on the court. I mean like when he was on the court missed forty forty percent of the game since he started with the Lakers. That's his issue is staying healthy. But when he plays I'm actually big fan of his he, and if lavar wants to like, I think most things with lavar basically Peter out on their own like, I I think big baller brands, probably dead. Big baller. Brand is dead. I mean, the Lonzo is suing Allen foster the guy that was the co founder of the company because he highsted one point five million dollars from so how much attention should we pay too big baller brand at this point? I don't think big baller brand exists zero. Right. It's just. Lavar is is saying I won in agent. That's gonna put all three my boys on the same team. How much attention she played at. What point like Coby did should Lonzo say enough already? Can do it at any time? But to me, I think lavar eventually Peterson. I mean, I think eventually that's where we end up while you're suggests, but here's the thing. Now, whether he he does it by pulling earn Rogers and cutting off his family, which I don't think I don't think you have to cut off your fan. I I know he did. But I think you just have to say you're not running my career. You're not picking my agent. You're not linking me to my brothers. I'm not going to wear the shoes that probably caused me to sprained my ankle that made me miss the rest of the of. Yeah. I mean again, well intentioned, but incompetent, I don't know if that if that will ever happen. I think that lavar needs deeds to be done king. Don King was a necessary evil in boxing for Ali Frazier to happen for all e form to happen. Nobody wanted to deal with Bob Arum or dime king. Nobody wants to deal with lavar ball, right? But he's just kinda there, and he's just there. Yeah. But he is running the show where king now, I think he's dude. I know, but he's just he's super he's super old petered out. Yeah. But he's suit wears Bobby sales. Elderly but Bob air. Peter also elder. He's still working. He's still got fights. But those guys are old, man. Yeah. But they're still won't. I mean, I think lavar, here's all the noise. Lavar makes over there. I mean, eventually we just stop talking about. It's not the noise. He makes it's the guidance he gives I mean if you're right about this. You're the one that's putting the VAR back in the spotlight. I don't think anybody else is doing remote is doing it. In her story today, we're gonna talk to her top of the hour. What paragraph paragraph? Does lavar come up in? I I don't know I rarely about at the store. Very bottom of the story. Second last paragraph. Lavar comes up, but doesn't mention him until that there's no question that lavar has asserted his control again. Right. And I don't I think that is to lonzo's detriment. It's lavar that put him in those shoes led to that eight in his garage. Let him spraining his ankle and miss half the season. What's lavar that set up this big baller brand? With a guy who'd been in prison for seven years for male right to run the damn company. So how? How is this going to end? Why hope it's going to be Lonzo saying look you in the same way. I look at the the Lakers front office and say you need to get somebody with some experience in their right? Lonzo Schettino vers career to somebody with experience hard to do to your dad. It's hard to put your hat out in the cold not hard to put your dad out. I don't well. You seem to be talking about this possibility. I think that Lonzo just let's lavar be lavar. And unlike all lavar things end it'll end like big ball ran into deal and like Lithuania ended land like China ended. It'll end like everything the VAR does of every is a disaster. Every line you went ahead your career to somebody who turns everything into a desirer. But we've seen this movie. So many times how many times you have to see to know how it's gonna end. Yeah. But now, it's but yeah. But do you believe that lavar you're the one that brought up lavar is looking for an agent to get all three boys on the same NBA team? Is there any way on God's green earth that happens? I know it's not possible. Correct. So how does this end? But why do you want that guy running your career because he's your dad? Yeah. You don't need your dad to run your career. You can be your own man. Nobody needs that to run the unit that, but it's you know, I don't know anybody else whose dad runs career except for like Britney Spears. And now look her. And Shannon, dad's really sick. But I mean, there are people child actors had their parents running their career. Yeah. But lonzo's twenty one years old he's not a child anymore. Yeah. I think it's I'm we'll send it's fair to say that he is disappointing as a number two draft pick. Would you agree with that? I wouldn't because look who's drafted behind him. Who like now the guys in that draft like everybody miss stunt on of everybody. Would you rather have Kyle? Kuzma, Jason Tatum. Don't use Kyle Kuzma wide seeing. Those Jason Tatum Tatum watched Jason Tatum lead a team to the final. Okay. If you watch chasing Tatum this year struggled through better. I think that's a career shoe. And I don't agree the kouzmines better. Okay. Any circumstance that whose mission thirty percent from three. He's nother both hurt now. But the the, but I don't think you can say Kouzmin Tatum hit him in the same breath. All you easily. Can I didn't see look Jason Tatum? Led the Celtics to the finals last year. Did he yes he did? Do you think? That was the star of that team. Who was the star of the team? It wasn't Jalen Brown. No. I think that that team was a collective, but Jason Tatum was the leader of that team. And I say. Your day out. He's taking a big step back. You need to look at his numbers this year. But I think you'd be I think it is numbers compared to Koos we'll do next. I think you're being a Homer here. But we'll do Bella while take coups out of it take anybody that that was taken after Jason Tatum. Would you rather deer and FOX FOX there you go. Oh, I'm sorry. Jason tatum. I thought you're saying Lonzo. Yeah. I'd rather have Jason Tatum than deer and FOX rather than line. Jason Tatum anymore. I'd rather have live marketing than I think I'd rather have learned Markkanen than Lonzo ball rather. Fox over Lonzo ball. Well, you get. Here's the thing. When lonzo's healthy. He's good. It's just a matter of cane. He stay healthy. Will he stories he Sam buoy, right? Right. But as healthy tissue. All right coming up. Hey, good news for the dodgers, not just this year. But next year and the year after that and the after that, and the that you know, what I'm talking about. No, I'll tell you next Mason Ireland ESPN LA. Hey, it's Friday. It's official. That's it, and you know in front of rules around it fried. That's right. Anything's going to happen. It's t minus three Mace t minus three clippers tonight jazz Sunday Portland Tuesday. And then it's over but win so long nightmare is over in once from for some pride how about some pry clippers need this. They don't wanna sink to the eight. No. And the Lakers are benching seven guys. So it would be a huge choke job by this nightmare. No. It's not the Lakers are benching seven guys you hate that. No, they they claim. They're all hurt. They claim. Yeah. But I mean, I think it was a playoff game. Lebron would play. I don't know about Lonzo. But you would think maybe I don't think Ingram can and the ginghams Bingaman harder kind of well Ingram. I think is. Yeah. Is just out limping bad last night hard at a procedure. Yeah. So he probably wouldn't be back. So he didn't by the way is that. Can you blame somebody or something for that? Or is that just injuries happen? You're talking about the mass number of injuries. I think you have to legitimate look at the training staff. I mean, it's a mash unit at some point you have to look at the training staff. Who's who's the training staff is it stole? Governor governor is the is the strengthening conditioning coach, right? But all those it'll be interesting to see if they when if they do indeed blow at the coaching staff. Right. Most people think Alex McKechnie used to garner Gunnar. Yeah. And you know, he's got a pretty good track record. But it, but McKechnie was the man. Well, he's in Toronto in Toronto. Yeah. So, but in Toronto's actually stayed pretty healthy Toronto rests people what they they they kind of follow like white. I don't quite played in back to back the shore. The all the smart tips requesting people, you know, it's been really good in Toronto is Mark Saul Marcus has been great. Well that pass out Seattle. He's going to be the most improved Pacific. He's gonna be in the league. Yeah. And they're dig Toronto could be sneaky if they get healthy. They got Fred van fleet back who's a really good backup guard for them. But if if they stay healthy lookout with Kawai, and Lowry and Gasol and Siaka and surge of Bacchus, really good. That they're going to be a tough out for somebody. So here's here's something that I think is is really really interesting. We talk about the Lakers. Young core yell the time, you know, the the Ingram in the Kouzmin and the Josh heart in the Lonzo all that stuff. So the dodgers there's this thing called the first of all dodgers off to a five and to start there in Colorado tonight. Colorado's three and four it'll be Tyler Anderson the lefty for Colorado versus Cantu, my eighty Kanta Mehta for for the dodgers. And that means we'll see because it's a lefty we'll see David freeze and we'll see Chris Taylor out in left field most likely and kenley Jansen pitching for the first time in Colorado. The heart procedure. But I mean, he had that I guess repaired. Here are the KOTA projections for the next and I trust the Prokhoda projections there these are normally scare scary Acura. So Brandon Doolittle rights for ESPN wrote this based on twenty five men rosters. The dodgers will win ninety four games next year ninety five games in twenty twenty one. That means the next three years. The dodgers are going to be ninety. Plus when teams if they do nothing if they just stay with exactly what they've got. Because what they've done is. They've done it. Absolutely. Right. Cody Bellinger, Cory Seager Austin bar yet. Right here is all your assuming that all the young pitchers. Come come through like aureus comes through Walker Bieler comes through who my name, not young other young on. That's Phil got Goslin. Tony gone Salim, Tony because ryobi older hill will be older Kershaw viola zone even be here. Three years from now. Those guys all be either on their way out or outright Kershaw might not be here hill main little optimistic to say that if they do nothing, I guess the point is that their farm system is spectacular. That's what they've been able to do more than anybody else. When we talk about draft picks and finding the. Right players and developing the right players and finding town the Lakers. There's nobody better. Sorry. The dodgers. There's nobody better than the dodgers have been at both remaining competitive and rebuilding at the same time. You look guys when six division titles. Alex do would be a starter for most teams and major league baseball. He's fantastic. He's a role player here. Right. Austin Barnes Russell Martin catching right now Will Smith and keyboard Ruis or the guys that are coming and are going to make a huge impact. Ruis can really really hit Greg. They're they're set up like dominoes. I mean, they're just going to be great for years for years and years, and this is completely on Andrew Friedman being able to build this minor league system into what it is. And I know you're talking about how reuse getting older he's in his thirties. And so is so is hill and Kershaw, but orientation stripling and Walker? Bueller? Goslin and Dustin may and all these guys they have. In the minor league system that are all going to come up and be good pitchers. Mitchell white this is all going to be a strong pitching staff moving forward and every position is completely filled backfilled. Yeah. But all those guys are gonna hit wait a minute. The dodgers really good at got. I mean, they've got we just named six pitchers. Right. Six pitchers. You you get four of them to hit. And by the way, we're we're Suming that they do nothing else towards they which they don't trade anything. They will make moves they will get better in they'll get better. Like, for example, the trade deadline. They've left themselves just enough room to be able to make an impact move at the normally they do like last year was Machado year before that wasn't that Josh Rettig original, Josh Radin. Darvish. Yeah. Oh, you Dr. And so every year, they kind of take a big swing if they think they got a chance for I do go for it. But I, you know, one of the things I take from the dodgers is something that the Lakers should take a page from. I'll explain next. Don't forget to thirty today. Got avengers endgame tickets doing a special screening on opening day. You can come out watch movie with me in my own private theater. Grab dinner from Carl's junior. They're serving up the new charbroil bacon. Truffle Angus burger before the movie were doing that at two thirty today. Make sure you're listening Mason, Ireland ESPN Elec. All right. It's friday. You must be relieved be relieved after Tuesday after Tuesday. Yeah. Three more to go slogging away. Yeah. Glad replaying playoff games down the stretch. Oh, because you get to watch other teams like, I don't think the clippers are going to do anything place. But I dunno haven't seen him in a while seem tonight. So I don't think so. And then I'll see you won eleven out of twelve on Sunday. What's the world? Look like if they actually do get. Hey better. But I mean. Put it this way when they had in their prime. Chris Paul Blake Griffin, Indiana, Jordan, eighty right out of the second round so dot coaching them. So until they do I think that you, you know, they're hard to take seriously until they do. Yeah. I just think Jerry West gives them a different a different feel. I think it's gonna help bring in guys. Yeah. They still got to put it all together. Yeah. All right. So I was talking about the dodgers. And the one thing I've always loved about the dodgers is the Andrew Freedman in particular is that he fills up the front office like multiple times. Now, they've been front office of the major league baseball fills up the front office with very very smart people. Whether it's Josh burns whose there now or foreign Zaidi who is the as GM came down and was the dodgers EM Alexandroupolis topless. Who's now running the Braves gape Kappler who's now managed in the Phillies always always surrounded himself with Spar smart people. Now, here's what Stephen. Smith said yesterday on I'm guessing I take it would be a dish not subtraction. But I was certainly add somebody to the front office. I don't think that Magic Johnson and rob Pelinka as a combo is good enough because both novices at this. And that's not an insult. That's just fact Magic Johnson has never been president of basketball operations until he got this Lakers job. Rob Pelinka has never been a general manager for basketball team until he got this leakage job and even Kobe Bryant. Immediately tweeted upon rob link is hiring that nobody knows the business of basketball better. We also understand that relationships matter what what you nurture and cultivate matters as I reported on numerous occasions. I personally have no issue. Rob pelinka? I like them. I wish much success. We all know that Magic Johnson is my brother got mad love form. But rob Pelinka. There are people in the league who despise him to the point where I can't even throw aside. Word hate. They don't talk about him glowingly. They have a real problem with him. They don't like them in most in some instances. They've been highly reluctant to take his phone calls, which is why magic had to be involved in terms of being on the phone, particularly when it came to the issue involving Anthony Davis and the pelicans. Don't they need to do with the dodgers have done and beef up the front office? Get get different voices. Get more experienced guys in there to help make those decisions because to me great great organizations have the leader. And then a bunch of people who are throwing ideas there, mashing it out there hashing it out there providing much information and as much detail as they possibly can. So that the decision maker which in this case match Johnson. So that the decision maker has as much information as he possibly can when he comes to make a decision. Do you think the Lakers will add somebody at the front office? I don't know. I don't hate your idea. But on the other hand Steve Kerr had never been a coach and Bob Myers. Never been a GM. And the warriors are pretty good Gregg Popovich makes all the decisions in San Antonio. And they're pretty good. I mean, it depends. You know, the bottom. Is you gotta win. So since they're not winning. I think your ideas good one should consider everything. And I think especially right now, I mean just dealing with fans on Twitter, which is you know, it's Twitter. For what it's worth, but dealing with fans on Twitter. I would say there is a crisis in confidence about the Lakers front office right now, and it was really accepted by the zoo bots trait people look at that and say the signings the summer last summer, the Suba trade doesn't make any sense. It's put a magnifying glass on the front race. I think he used the phrase it was really essentially by this about straight. It's not just that. No. It's not that. It's just like it was sort of like a little exclamation point on the like, if you're really questioning it watch us trade young center for a guy that hasn't made a difference at all. Yeah. In concept. I understand what they were trying to do in practice. It didn't make any sense. Yeah. I don't know who that person would be that they would go out and get that would that would provide them with some front office expertise by I don't I gotta tell you. I don't hate your idea. I mean, there's no you know, what I'm saying. Like, it's good to have smart people around. It's good to have smart people around. To help make decisions to do all that work. I'm trying to think of who would who would fit that list because Jerry West has taken. Yeah. Jerry taken. I'm trying to think of who else out there, Pat Riley taken right? You know? So it's it's not as easy as hey, let's add somebody. You gotta add the right guy. Yeah. I mean, you guys. Yeah. You go. And you find somebody who's already in a successful. You find somebody like, and this guy's probably advanced too much in his career. But there was a moment where he would have been great somebody like Troy Weaver like who's our Troy when he has advanced by the way. Yeah, he's the executive vice president of basketball operations for the thunder thunder. But just because a lot of other people like Michael winger left. The thunder. Go run the clip right press, prestige is VP and general manager and they've given him sort of the parallel job vice president of basketball operations. So he's got he's a way to keep him right by giving him. Bigger title. Right. I think one of the questions magic doesn't make himself readily available for a lot of interviews. But I think we if in when he does one of the questions should be who do you listen to like who do you trust? Who do you who do you lean on to get advice? And I to be honest. I don't know what the answer is. Right. And I mean, the Palinka thing just sounds. I mean, Stephen said it, but we've been hearing it for a long time about rob Pelinka that there's a that that people just don't like, right. It's critical summer for those two guys for magic. And rod. They've got to produce or else then stories like that one. You just played Stephen eight telling right. Become the narrative writing to the forefront if you produce. Yeah. If they were to deliver another Ayla star. And there are several of them out. There are. Yep. I'm if they were to get one and Param with LeBron in the Lakers became a force in the west all of a sudden nobody talking about the inexperience of the front office. The fact that people don't like rob Pelinka they'd be talking about. Well, despite all odds, they got it done. But that's why they have to I trust them to get a guy like Jimmy Butler. I actually I feel like Jimmy Voller might be the guy. I don't I don't boogie. Maybe you know, somebody like that. But I don't you know, the boogie plus plant. See it's not necessarily the big name. I worry about like, I think they're going to do. I think they're going to hit one out of the park. I think they're gonna land one of those big stars. And it may be. But is that hitting it out of the park getting getting boogie or Jimmy Butler in your mind? No. But it's I think the teen -able. Yeah. The top tier guys, and there may be a trade in the works that we don't know a top tier guy right on the bubble right on the bubble. The promise hade like a top tier gets K D coli, kyri, clay, and clay who I if your name starts with a K, we'll take and Pemba is jammed on the other say if your name starts with a K you're in. It is weird that all the guy's name star with a K that we're talking about like super weird now one of those five guys and I'll put camp in the group one of those five guys, and I think is going to be all MBA. He's right what either Kimball or Klay, but not both. This is actually a really interesting thing. Because those guys both get paid mill. Millions more if they may be eight, but in my mind, five of the six spots guard spots are gone they're six there's three teams for second third team. I think the first team absolute locks harden and Steph, right? I think the second team is probably Lillard and Westbrook. Right. And I think the third team is kyri. And then either clay Kemba, Bradley Beal. You could make an argument for Ben Simmons for probably not against those three guys guys like tomorrow Roseanne. We're probably being that discussion. Right. There's one spot for all those guys because they didn't the other five or in. So the one that does get all NBA, it's pay paid. Yeah. Thanks, Charlotte will go supermax Kemba if he's all MBA Zach kind of thing. I might not her. Yeah. He may not have that Klay. We'll certainly get a superman. But if the Lakers do if the Lakers, go supermax impeach somebody like that thirty six thirty seven million dollars. Well, they can't go supermax. You got to have your own, right? But I'm saying, but but maxim for four years, right? Yeah. Four years, one, seventy whatever that is right. Then then it ties up other cap space, and you've got to talk about trading guys and doing other things to build a team. But like, for example, but like I can play because Michael is absolutely convinced letting warriors, but if it were screwed up and made a mistake in the Lakers were able to get a guy like clay. That's a perfect complement. To lebron. But again, let me let me say this because John cannot prohibited for spanning the reason I'm using clay's. An example is that Michael is ninety nine percent convinced with the warriors. Yes. So I'm just putting him out there plays that. Yes. He has a vested interest in some insight into the situa-. So, but that's the type of thing if you're a Laker fan that you don't know if something like that. Becomes available. They some other team makes a decision about their guy using the example, because I'm pretty sure staying with words if some other team that we think a guy's staying, right? And he doesn't stay then you have a very small window when you can swoop. Right. Right. So they would go in GI could see something. I mean, I'm just spitballing here. But it seems like there's a lot of heat around Jimmy Butler in the Lakers right now. And I'm wondering if there's a way to get boogie and Butler under the cap like, I don't think boogie is a max. Yeah. I'm not sure. Okay. Who he is heretical radically Butler and boogie K, theoretically since I'm not allowed to talk about players under contract. Other time I say there was a guy who went through an injury, right? A major injury up could not get a deal and basically signed for the minimum and is now available right? That's not a thirty million dollars. That's probably a twenty million player. So all the sudden my Butler and boogie plan. And by the way, that is something that I can get behind that would be the kind of plan that I could absolutely get behind. And by the way, I think they'd power great interest and how for drama with that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. About a soggy Butler. Blustery will be that will be very fun. If they ended up on the same team. I don't know what he's eating. I'm just gonna run with the Butler and boogie plan. I think Butler and boogie Greg. What do you think Butler and boogie? I'm not a big fan of. I think boogie is the right just. Butler is attainable. I'm I'm not I think that everywhere that Butler has been he's been a problem Chicago, Minnesota doesn't seem like a problem in Philadelphia. Does all a lot of this also depends on how these guys do with their current teams. Right. Like if Toronto goes to the finals, then maybe Kawai isn't in the market. Yeah. And Hawaii right says I'm happy warriors run through everybody. Maybe Durant reconsiders and boogie by the by the way, the okay? That's all right judge. Give him the Heimlich. That's all you. On you Heimlich, John Heimlich him. All right Louie last night. Lot of monitoring lot of whom who's muttering. You know what I'm talking about? I think. Yeah. Yeah. But it it's almost comical they're probably talking about the day monitoring. What were they moderate? I think that this may call for Mason in Ireland theater. Yes. When we come back. Okay. Monet's coming on the show. She's not going to be Tolan thirty now. But she's definitely went she dealing with a kid or something. She's got much bigger. She's doing split your name and the other line story. Mason Ireland ESPN LA.

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Breaking Down the Drama Surrounding Lonzo Ball, LaVar Ball and Big Baller Brand, and What's Next for the Lakers' Guard On and Off the Court (Ep. 138)

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Breaking Down the Drama Surrounding Lonzo Ball, LaVar Ball and Big Baller Brand, and What's Next for the Lakers' Guard On and Off the Court (Ep. 138)

"TIAA supports those who are driven by purpose? Helping you live your definition of success. Whether you have five hundred dollars or five million investing advice banking retirement start today at TI dot org. Welcome to the hoop site podcast. My name is Alex Kennedy. And joining me today is my who played colleague Brian Cal Brosky. He's also the managing editor of USA today. Sports media groups NBA wire sites, including Lonzo wire, which is the best outlet for Lonzo ball and ball family news. And today, we're gonna talk a lot about Lonzo. Ball lavar ball and the future of the family the future of big baller brand. Brian. How're you doing? I'm doing well, man. It's been a beautiful couple of days here in Brooklyn, New York in gotten to to watch a lot of college basketball on the time that I'm inside it to spend some time outside after the rest of it. So to good life for me, man. It's been awhile since we've done this. I'm excited to have you back on on. Glad that you know, you can join me on this beautiful Sunday. We have lots talk about. So we we're kind of thinking about topics for the podcast today. And there's so much talk about with this. Lonzo ball big baller brand situation for people who don't know. We'll fill in some of the details and kind of give you guys in update on what's going on. Basically Allen foster was a manager for Lonzo ball and the ball family, and he was involved with big baller brand. And he apparently spent one point five million dollars that remains unaccounted for apparently, according to Tanya, again Guli of the Los Angeles Times he made purchases in Ethiopia as way to. Hide the money and the ball family is suing for damages of more than two million dollars. And now what this means is that it seems big baller brand is no longer a thing. The website is down Lonzo ball has removed the big baller brand tattoo that he had he scrubbed any picture of big baller brand from his Instagram. He's also made cryptic social media post that seemed to hint he'd be interested in key deal. So what do you make of this whole situation when it first came out? I was pretty surprised especially the fact that lavar ball apparently knew this guy for many years, but had no idea he had been convicted of fraud and all these different schemes to get people out of money. They had no idea in Lonzo didn't have any idea about his criminal history. Visit just a really messy situation wars your initial reaction. Well, April pool for when big baller brand would collapse. You can clutch wins at the reception gate. It's one of those situations where I really feel most for the family, obviously, you know, no one wanted to go down this way. And despite anyone's, you know, potential viewpoint on the VAR and big baller brand. And the way that business had been rolling. You know from the Better Business Bureau and from from other people who've kind of given its feedback. I think you really have to just kind of hope that, you know, the family can stay strong through this. And that, you know, all things considered, you know, Lonzo lamelo in liangelo really get what they are looking for, you know, from their lives and from and that their family can really stay close. I Lee right. I mean, you know, I think from from the human m m path part of mate. That's really what I'm rooting for is just for them to be kind of in a good light. You know, I think that that's really what I would like to see. And you know, I think across the board. I mean, I think it's not exactly a huge surprise after. After he was drafted by the Lakers in the to pick you on the season before this one things seem to go kind of a wry across the board and things didn't go according to plan, obviously, you know, with jello UCLA with his 'rastaw, and then, you know, even the mellow going to Lithuania into Ohio instead of going to be one of the top high school prospects in the country, and one of the top college prospects in the country. So, you know, I think they it's not exactly surprising that another thing would go wrong when the last few things have been kind of evident evidentially pointing towards that. Yeah. And I'm glad you brought up the family, obviously, people made jokes, and especially with social media and things like that people wanna make memes and mock the family, but I mean, no one wants to see this family lose, you know, two million dollars, and hopefully, they can recover that. And and win this lawsuit. And yeah, hopefully, they can stay close as a family. You know, the other day, you know, we are talking about. About, you know, a father and son relationship, we are talking about, you know, brother brothers here. So as much as I think Lonzo said distance himself from lavar publicly and make it very clear that my father does not speak for me. And maybe how sit down with his dad and say, look don't get do interviews anymore and things like that. I don't wanna see their, you know, their relationship deteriorate, obviously. But there's so much year. So not only do you have the the big baller brand drama with this lawsuit. Allen foster, you also have the news that Lonzo ball split from his agent Harrison Ganz now Harrison was a he represented the entire ball family. He also represented liangelo lamelo, he was involved in finding them the Lithuania deal and he's been involved. You know from the very beginning before launch his rookie year. He was hired basically to represent all the brothers since at that point. You know, they were all they were playing professionally somewhere so Harrison is no longer in the picture. Harrison's a great guy. I know him really, well, so I'm not gonna you know, I'll make that very clear, I'm biased here. I think is a really good guy. I think he's gonna be a very good agent for many years, and he was put in a really difficult position with this whole situation because you only had so much power with lavar ball running things in kind of being the puppet master. But now you have a situation where Lonzo ball's looking for a new agent, and we have conflicting reports here. Chris Haines of Yahoo sports says that lavar ball has actually met with a few agents on his sons who have that creative arts agency is viewed as the front runner for Lonzo. But there's concerns from agents that lavar involvement will get in the way and that there's also concerned about where the family stands financially with the failed big baller brand. He also said that in the process of vetting agent candidates during beatings, lavar has inquired if the agencies have the power to pair his three sons Lonzo liangelo in lamelo on the same NBA team. Now. We know lavar this has been his dream for a long time. He's made that very clear when hoops I've been reviewed him. He said the same thing that he wanted to see all three of his boys on the same team. Now, that's never going to happen. Let's make that very clear. Liangelo didn't even make an NBA summer league roster, and there's no limit to how many players can be on a summer league roster. So that kind of tells you how the NBA feels about liangelo. He didn't make a G league roster. So liangelo isn't going to be an NBA player. I think we can safely say that lamelo, you know, he's still young. You know, there are some people that like his game and feel like he has potential still so who knows with him, but the dream of having all three of these guys in the same team. I it's definitely a pipe dream. But then we have again, a conflicting report here saying from Tanya gang. Julia. The Los Angeles Times who says that word has spread about lavar ball driving the search. However, Lonzo ball told the Los Angeles Times on Thursday that he alone will be making his own business decisions asked. Typically of his father's involved. Lonzo ball said no a person familiar with situation. Says lavar ball has not participated in any official discussions about his son's future business dealings. So we have conflicting reports, but hopefully Tanya is the correct one just because I hope Lonzo is the one making this decision. And that lavar is not involved at all, you know, the fact that, you know, first of all Chris and j phenomenal reporter he's done this podcast twice. And I trust him a lot. I don't think he's gonna put something out there like that. Unless he heard it from an agent. So I do think someone told him. Hey, I talked to lavar ball and he asked if I can get his three sons on the same team. And you know, this and that so I do think that lavar side conversations. I just don't think they're serious conversations and Lonzo probably feels okay he's having talks, but I'm the one actually driving this search. That's why kind of interpreted, but I really do hope that lavar knocking to be involved in this decision because I think it's time for Lonzo take his career back, and maybe this whole big baller brand mess. You know, maybe this is a blessing in disguise in. This can be the thing that finally allows Lonzo to be zone man and take his career, you know, into his own hands. Because I think that's what they want needs to do. This episode hoops site podcast is brought to you by seatgeek getting tickets online can be far too complicated. There's hundreds of sites out there. You don't really know who to trust? That's why seek is the way to go. They pull millions of tickets into one place. 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Where if you download the seek app and put the promo code hoops hype. In you, get ten dollars off your first seatgeek purchase. So download the seek app promo code hoops hype. But just like the site, and you get ten dollars off your first seek purchase. Yeah. I think so too. I think that you know, the VAR can do all he wants them terms of being involved right now. But if if Lonzo doesn't give the green light if the seal of approval, it means nothing, and you know, I think I've been talking about this from, you know, felt folks who who I know who will work in sports business industry and Oregon representation, and you know, the overall sense that I'm getting right now. And this is kind of, you know, the least surprising news of the day is, you know, Rich Paul rub Palanca Magic Johnson and the best agent and then the world whoever whoever that might be moving forward couldn't get all three of these sons on on the same team. Maybe ever. I mean, the way the roster construction would work just wouldn't make any sense. A main obviously, you know, worked at the high school level in chino. And that's amazing. I would have been nice to see it happen. And in terms of, you know, our story, but you know, there's three holiday brothers in the NBA right now. And I don't see a situation where all three Lee plan on the same team anytime soon, you know, they're Marcus Sola isil never been on the Sam team, even though both changed teams this year main while it's while it's a lovely thought. And something that, you know, ideally, we'd like to see one day, you know, as a as a fan, you know. I mean, I think was Ken Griffey senior and Ken Griffey junior on the Sam team want once. Right. You even look at this with the LeBron James angle how how exactly would LeBron James end up a plane with brawny LeBrun, James junior. I guess we'd have to have his his contract run out. And then he just signs with whatever team gets number one pick on picks up brownie in. Then you just hope they have enough cap space assigning or lay signs a minimum deal. I mean, you know, so much of these these kind of situations or circumstantial known agent only has so much. Our to make those kind of moves. So no, I mean, no agent can really say anything along the lines of. Yeah. We can get jello and mellow and Lonzo in the same building. No problem at all. No. I mean, that's that's for that's for us for summer as a new either hanging out, you know, back at the big baller state and chino. And I I just really. Hope that one day that reality can strike in for lavar. I I really feel across the board that that, you know, Lonzo hasn't really done much wrong or much to make anyone uncomfortable ever. Indeed, hasn't set any other Hong things he's been consistently good sport about this. He has a really good job of not embarrassing or disparaging this father, while also keeping his business and not really giving a quotes. That would make anybody uncomfortable either. I mean, so much of the hate towards that family really may come from the patriarch, but you know, Lonzo is really been about as business, and you know, across the board is just really been been focused on his own productivity and getting better and showing improvements to his game. I think you're over year without without the injury setback. Lonzo's kind of hidden has thrived right at the tail end of the of his of his personal season this year before he four. Had to miss time due to the injuries. But you know, I think that you know, you're seeing a player who can really show a lot of overall development. Obviously, I've talked about this in the podcast before. But a truly elite rebounder of very very good defender the whole Lakers team defense collapse. But he wasn't in the picture. I think he has a elite core vision. I like that he's not necessarily someone who is going to be as bulbs augments when playing next abroad and Kyle Kuzma. And he's I think there are times where I'd like to see him. Maybe, you know, take the shop more just so that, you know, the defenders have to account for him rather than just leaving them open for three Lithuania with Ben Simmons. But I would say that he started to do that too. Even if he's missing it the fact that he's taking to you have to guard him. So you know, Lonzo is kind of added smart thinks his game. And I think across the board. That's all you can really ask for that in quotes. He hasn't really given that. Yeah. And I want to stress that, you know, it's funny. I interview. Lonzo when he was in high school, and he came off as the most humble polite kid. You know, and I was really blown away. The interview stood out to me for a long time. Even before he became a lottery pick and things like that. I remember back then I was thinking man, this is a really good kid. And this is before lavar was really on the scene and really known at all. And then once lavar started popping up and making these crazy statements. I remember thinking how is how did Lonzo come from this family? How did how did he grow up around lavar and become this humble in this quiet, and it it's just their polar opposites, and it's funny. I've talked to players who expected to this like Lonzo, you know, whenever the Lakers drafted Lonzo. A one player went this is going to be a nightmare. You know, he's gonna be you know, this and that there's gonna be all this drama. And then as soon as Lonzo got there. He the player it to me. I was completely wrong. He's the nicest kid, he's amazing in the locker room. He's a good leader. You know, everyone raves about him. All the all the issues them from you know, the people that are surrounding him. Whether it's lavar or you know, obviously. Now this Allen foster character, I think he really needs to again, I think this could be a blessing in disguise if you steps back and says, look, you know, from now on dad, I don't want you giving interviews. I don't want you making these crazy statements. You know last year, you know, like, you said he was playing well, we saw his importance after he went down because the Lakers really were much worse team when he wasn't around. You know, you look at his traditional stats over his forty seven games, you know, nine point nine points, five point four assists, five point, three rebounds. You know, they don't really jump off the page, but you know, he was really doing well on defense. And I think he'd has changed the way that Laker team plays. And you know, the injuries have been really unfortunate. Hopefully, you can get past that and be healthy consistently going forward. But I think he needs to have that conversation with his dad, and then once you can do that. I think he's the position where this next year could be a breakout year for him on the court, and then the first year of his career the first year of his, you know, basketball life where he's able to call the shots and not have to worry. About the drama that comes with his dad's comments, and you know, because every time his dad makes a comment or crazy quote. You know, reporters are asking him about it. They're asking teammates about it in a becomes a whole thing. I mean, we saw this past year when the Anthony Davis trade rumors were going on lavar ball's going on saying, we don't want, you know, we don't wanna be a New Orleans. We want to be in Phoenix. And he's making all these comments and low, you know, Lonzo has to answer questions about that. You know, teammates, get ask questions about that. You know, this would be a much better situation. If lavar ball either on his own realized, I knew take step back and stop doing this and making these comments, but I don't see that happening. So I think Lonzo needs, you know, like, you said he's done a really good job of not hurting anyone's feelings or disparaging his father through the media. But just have a sit down with dad and say, look, this isn't going to work if you keep making these kind of comments, you're hurting my career, we tried things your way, we did big baller brand. We passed on a five year fifteen million dollar deal from Nike, according to Nick dipaolo from. Yeah. ESPN? And look what happened, you know now. Whereas where you know, we're out one point five million dollars. There's been some questions about whether the big baller brand shoe was the reason for his ankle injury. The Lakers were questioning that and asks Lonzo specifically, the you feel the shoe caused your injury. So we tried things your way dad now, let's try things by way. Let me be on my own pick my own agent. Let's just kind of lay low for little bit and not make these crazy statements. I think that's what happened because I mean, again, the big things for me going back to the trade the trade talk. You know, whenever you're saying things like we don't want to go to New Orleans. You know, at the end of the day, a player doesn't have control over trade talks or or shot process. And if the Lakers the summer trade for ethnic Davis, Lonzo ball, very well could be included in that deal. Then suddenly you're in New Orleans on a multi year contract. And things are extremely awkward. You start a relationship very poorly because you've been saying negative things or your father has been saying negative. Things about the team about not wanting to be there. Some those comments the ones that the comments about, you know, wanting his boys the play together. And you know, the comments that come off as cocky, you know, how he could be Michael Jordan one on one. I don't care about that stuff. It's the stuff that affects the locker room where he talks about teammates or talks about Luke wall in or talks about trade destinations those things that have an impact on lodgers career. And those the things that I think he needs to really that's where Lonzo needs to say those have to stop. Yeah. No. I I completely agree. But you know, I think I think you know, you look at someone who's a very clear narcissist like lavar ball, and you kind of have to realize that this is part of the just they're they're ingrained self. And I think there's only so much. They Lonzo could really say before it really becomes a a matter of he's not gonna listen. So I think that it might not be having the conversation with the VAR by becoming he's already tried several times. I think. Be more than conversation with the public works. Like, hey, listen, you know, I'm not trying to embarrass my dad. I love him. Like I made the album that I have that whole beautiful song about him. Like, I clearly a fan of this guy. He raised me to be the put the person I am. But he doesn't speak for me. And that's kinda the thing. I have to really say. And that's a really hard thing to ask. If someone like Lonzo, who's what, you know, twenty years old now twenty one years old maybe and to to have that deep conversation with the public is a huge undertaking. And something that I wouldn't wish on anybody. So, you know, I think it might really just be a matter of letting this grow up a little bit on his own and realizing that, you know, these are parts of growing up that you know, we wouldn't really necessarily all known because we don't always get the public spotlight. I mean, there are proud fathers who would have very similar kind of. Reactions to their to their sons in the NBA, and they would they would want that. And plus it upon them might be handled differently. But you know, it really is hard to control it. And I think that you have to locate Lonzo in this own little lens words, like it's still a young kid still really trying to figure it all out. And you know, I think that we saw from ESPN Ramona Shelburne on the collective podcast with Brian will Hearst that LeBron Lonzo have gotten way closer, you know, in recent events because of everything and that's not exactly surprising. I think you're really seeing somebody here who was who was the kid in a lot of ways kind of turn it into a bit more of an adult than I think that he's having to realize face fairly tough thing. In his life that other people his age might not to ever deal with the now that he has this kind of public persona. He has to relent a stand this in a way that is almost unfair to him. But you know, the expectations of his job is reality. So it's kinda just the the the the what's going to happen here. Yeah. I mean, LeBron knows what is like to be criticized by the masses in, you know, be judged in mocked and things like that. And and I think he can really help Lonzo and be a nice mentor for him because you know, from the very star. Lebron intrigued by Lonzo remember during summer league whenever LeBron win watch. Lonzo play. I mean, there's always been that intrigue there. And I think it's interesting to hear that they're getting closer throughout this whole process. I think that LeBron you know, he wants to help him. And I think probably feels bad for him. You know that he had this whole thing. Go wrong. I also think LeBron I think you know, he he wants to kinda grew. I'm him. And we saw something similar with Kyrie and in Cleveland. And I know Kyrie was kind of bothered by it because people, you know, there were questions about LeBron being a father figure or something like that to him. And and I know Kyra felt like no I'm on the same level of him. I'm a star, blah, blah, blah. But I do think that it's in LeBron's nature to want to mentor. These guys in kind of be that, you know, big brother figure at least. And I think it's good for Lonzo to have that. You know, if LeBron. If if LeBron didn't go to Los Angeles in lonzo's dealing with all of this, you know, on I think it'd be harder for Lonzo right now. Lebron wasn't in LA because you know, he'd be looked at as the guy that needs to turn things around. And you know, the the star of the tea in the face of the franchise, you know, along with, you know, Kaku Brandon Ingram. I it's obviously hypothetical. But I think it's good for him that LeBron is there, and we had this conversation earlier, you feel like he's a good fit alongside LeBron James. I think he needs to improve his shot a little bit. I think you wrote an article about Alex Caruso in how the Lakers really need to have guys that are good catching shoot players alongside LeBron next season. Because when he succeeded in Cleveland and Miami, he's had guys economic data open shots, and we know, you know, he penetrates and kicks out. And when guys get knocked down shots, you know, those offenses can be deadly. That's where I have trouble with the whole Lonzo thing because he isn't a great shooter. I think you know, he can work on. Hopefully, he does and becomes better shooter. If you can do that, then I think he's going to be a great fit alongside LeBron. And I agree with you on the defense the court vision pushing the pace he's always looking to get down the court. I I just think that shot as a really big issue. And that's kind of a concern for me. That's what I want to really see him work on this off season. Yeah. Definitely I think, you know, more realistically, he's definitely been working on his shot. Like, no doubt about that. I'm sure he's spending countless hours working on his shot. But the one thing that I think would be the most realistic even to be honest with you would really be a matter of his floater. You know, he he is a someone has always been afraid to draw contact and doesn't really get to the line at the lead level. And I think you'll his short mid range game would really improve a ton. If you could kind of develop a floater develop a teardrop, that's at least competent. So that he could kind of you know, he's taller than his defenders. Right. He kind of float that ball in from that junk shop form down there in a way that you know, it doesn't really affect his, you know, a floater. You're not really having like a weird jump shot. Form with that. You'd have more of your own little way of getting the ball in the bucket and be getting the ball close to the basket without really drawn contact without really forcing too much. So I think it's really something that you continue to build out his game. I mean, obviously, you're seeing a lot of Jason Kidd comparisons from him in the past. And you know, kid is somebody who is one of the top three point connectors of all time, and the three pointer that didn't come overnight. I mean, that's the years and years to develop them, you know, he's a he's a smart enough guy hard enough worker that I'm not I'm not too concerned about that. But I have to ask you this. You know, I mean, if you look at the draft that twenty seven teams draft, I have to wonder, you know, where Lonzo would have really gone, you know, knowing where he's at now, I think that obviously Tatum goes number one. I think that may be you know, you look at Donovan Mitchell case for number two. But if the Lakers have that pick, and they think LeBron has coming. I think it'd be. Pressed to find a better player. You know, then Lonzo because you do have that a shooting potential to develop down the line. I think that you saw some of that shooting at UCLA. I was at a game at Pauley pavilion. Westwood against my Oregon ducks than we had one of the nastiest Ray pointers one of the most beautiful three pointers. I I had seen in a really long time. He hit this this shot against Dillon Brooks and not team that eventually did go really far in the tournament. Showed that he he actually had you know, some shooting potential that really unlock before that time. I was like, you know, a good player. Yeah. I like Lonzo will be a first round pick to now. This could be an elite player and sometimes you see flashes of a player college that don't really develop until later into their career. And that's kind of where I'm at Lonzo is while I think he doesn't have the shooting yet. That's all that's all still potentially in the works. Take some time for a young card to develop the things that he does have do fit. Really, well, and that's the bra. I mean, you know, you look at someone like Dante Murray on San Antonio. And I think that that's somebody like kind of almost compare similarly where really good Clark vision not as ball dominant. And so you can kind of help the guys around him play better. And also, I think that really, you know, really great rebounding really great defense, obviously, lonzo's wingspan isn't quite Lamar eases. But you know, Murray's a clutch client one of LeBron's players young player. Young players in the league. And I think they all the reports coming into the season this year before marketing, fortunately suffering. His injury was a his shooting was really coming along. And I think that's something that you just kinda seal the blunt guard. Sometimes it takes you know, certain times. And you know, the game the game is really fast. You know, when you're in the NBA, and sometimes that you know, maybe his shooting in this flying during practice. That's kind of what you're looking for. To get that comfort level to bring it all together on the same level. I mean, you don't really see players like Donovan Mitchell who set the record for three pointers of one ear off for rookie. Come along every year. There's a reason why Mitchell know set that record is it's because it's a really Arctic the do. Yeah. No. I totally agree with you. I think a few things, you know. I think one of the reasons why we were hearing that Murray improved his shot is because he had chip England. One of the best shooting coaches working with him. I hope Lonzo can find a similar shooting coach that can really help him because I think that's going to be a huge part of unlocking his full potential and you back to what you said about the two thousand seventeen NBA draft Jason Tatum. Donovan Mitchell, the other player is deer and FOX I think he would definitely be picked before. Just because he's such a breakout year. He's been fantastic. This guy could be one of the best point guards in the NBA for the next decade. Yeah, he's been incredible. So I think especially if you factor at injury sue we've seen this year. He's been pretty durable to you know, he's already played seventy nine games this year. So those are the three certainly Lonzo, you know, being the fourth player picked in his draft, boss. It's not it's not a knock on him. We just need to see a little bit more. And hopefully, we can you know, I really do wanna see Lonzo succeed. I wanna make that clear. I think there's a lot of people out there that are reading for him to fail. And I don't like that. I I hate when people are looking at a situation like this. And whether it's because of lavar or whether it's because he is a Laker or whatever, you know, he's he's twenty one year old kid. He's been screwed over by people that he really trusted. Apparently Allen foster was a family friend that you know, he felt really comfortable around and really trusted. So you know, he has had. A really crappy few weeks. He's really, you know, he's been screwed over by manager lost one point five million dollars. And to be clear. You know, some people are like, oh, yeah. That's nothing. You know, he's be a player. Lonzo's not James harden, and where he has a two hundred million dollar contract and thirty million dollar salary. This year loan is on a rookie deal in Los Angeles. Where we were I it's, you know, a lot more expensive to live there and a lot more taxes, and blah, blah, blah. But the point is losing two million dollars or one point five million dollars. You know, that's really gonna hurt. If you're Lonzo ball, especially if you put money into big baller, brand and indifferent ventures and things like that. So hopefully, you know, this this this lawsuit goes their way, they can get that money back. And then hopefully, we can see Lonzo get healthy. And then take that next step in his career. I really do want to see him break out and has excess and I think. I I want to ask you this. Do you think we see Lonzo get traded this summer because I think just like I said earlier, you know, I think the Nike deal that he could get potentially assuming he's talking like you and is going to sign with the deal is going to be a lot smaller than the five year. Fifteen million dollars deal us being offered out of college. That's my opinion. I think that is. Yeah. His stock is lower now than it was when he was entering the NBA was a car. Needle the moment. It goes off the lot you start to loosen value in some ways. Right. Exactly. It's all about potential all about potential at that point. He was viewed as you know, could be the star of the Lakers. And now that was before LeBron. So you're thinking, okay, we could have the number to overall pick who was the star of the Lakers, and you know, there and who knows how good he could be. He could be you know, the a superstar from day one. Now, obviously he's had some injuries. You know, you know, he's at least going to be the number two guy. He's never going to be the number one guys long as LeBron's there. So you have these different factors that are going to give they're going to factor into his, you know, Nike offer. But I look at that. And I feel the same way about his trade value. You know, there there's been talk about, you know, do the Lakers trade him. I feel like it makes more sense to hold onto him and try to develop him and hope that he can you know, work through these injuries and really expand his game in the way that we've talked about rather than trade him to a team. Because I feel like right now his trade value was very high. The only way you do that. I think is if the New Orleans pelicans are demanding Lonzo for Anthony Davis. And in the packages in too crazy, if that's the situation then you almost have to make that kind of move because anything Davis is obviously such such a special player. But what do you think about lonzo's future in LA? Do you think they trade him or do you think, you know, his trade value prevented it makes it smarter to hold onto him? I think that you know, he would have likely been the one young guy that probably would have kept, you know, in a trade for potentially Anthony Davis. Just because I think that New Orleans had kinda you'll may begun some bad vibes from lavar and then the camp and everything, and I think that Ingram would probably have been the player, they would have coveted the most just because he has the star potential, but realistically, I would say that, you know, next moving forward with Ingram's now unfortunate health injury. We're not we're health concern and everything that's probably not going to necessarily be the case as much. I think it might be a tougher tougher trade to make and I think that you know, really were just have to see what Ingram's development looks like off the court hoping that he'd doping the best for him. And I think that. I don't know manage it's tough to say, I don't think Lonzo gets traded though. I think that on the is going to be a liquor for probably a long time. I don't think he played slow career the Lakers. But I really see a situation he is with the Lakers moving forward. I think that you know, it's it's a tough thing to trade for for him. So I there's so many questions about Lonzo. I think that really. I don't know if the Lakers get the were back on the investments that they would want to go move forward. And especially if we'll ever Ramona Shelburne reported was true, you know, that LeBron Lonzo guy and a lot closer since his all went down. We know how much input in power and influence. Lebron has over decisions. It's very possible that maybe that is part of the reason Lonzo stays as well. You know, if if LeBron is saying, hey, I think he could be a really good, you know, a really important part of our core going forward with Anthony Davis or with the free agent that they signed then, you know, that's obviously you're gonna wait on the minds of rob Pelinka Magic Johnson. And you know, maybe that keeps them in LA as well. The LeBron factor is has to be considered with any kind of move being made with the Lakers because we know how much our. Yeah. So the fact that they're getting closer could actually end up making him stay in Los Angeles as well. So I guess to end on this. No, what do you do you think he signed with Nike? Do you think he goes to one of these upstart companies like PU? Houma or new balance or one of these companies that are trying to sign guys in offering significantly more money or at this point. You think it's gonna be a Nike and Adidas type deal. Gee, I think it'll basically be a law to being Aki, especially with LeBron James factor in everything I think that you know, it's probably just something where it'll probably be hopefully fairly quiet to and they don't probably make a huge deal about. It sorta is what it is. He'll be ninety client, and that'll be that'll be it. And I think it'll be good for good for everybody. Good for good for Lonzo. And me and it sounded like Lonzo liangelo and lamelo didn't really want to do big baller brand to begin with. I think that may have been a good idea some regards. But you also have to look at it. As like, you know, I think that man I mean, I know that lamelo liangelo kind of feel like, hey, thanks for getting us out of here. Man. We really really appreciate it. So that's of the way. I look at it. Now. Right. Is they feel at bay the dodgers bully here. And that's kinda. How I feel like Lonzo is kind of been for them. And you know, he he's of being the tired of being the test tube unites. Tired of being charge of everything where? He has to be, you know, the experiment with everything he kind kinda wants to live his life. And I think my biggest less room to do that. Yeah. I agree with you. I think he goes Nike. I think from an agency standpoint, we we probably see them go at CA. You know, the fact that Chris and Tanya gangly we're both saying that they're the front runner. It seems like this point. That's accurate. How if I'm liangelo? I'm really upset with lavar and the way things played out if I'm gonna mellow. I'm pretty upset too. I mean, there's still some chance that lamelo could maybe salvage this. And you know, there's talk that he could be a second round pick in the NBA or possibly still get to the NBA because some teams, you know, like this is in in his potential, but liangelo he he was at UCLA, he, you know, had he obviously he had the whole incident with the shoplifting. And all that. So maybe maybe he never ends up in the NBA, regardless of what happens, but the whole idea of pulling them out of school and going to let the Wynia playing against competition that was just much lower than anything. He would've faces. A college level doing the same with lamelo, you know, obviously with Lonzo. He was kind of like you said the Guinea pig year, and he has to be frustrated that this whole big, well, our brand thing was kind of pushed on him. And that you know, he didn't just signed a traditional Nike deal from the start. But if I'm if I'm liangelo or I am lamelo, I'm pretty frustrated with the way that my career has been handled. And you know, we don't know how involve there with the decision making. But you know, from what we've heard and also what we see in know anytime, there's a reality type show where you're seeing things behind the scenes and getting a glimpse into people's lives. And obviously not all of that is one hundred percent accurate there. There's things that are staged. And we know that. But it seems like, you know, the whole decision to go with the way in. Yeah. It was all of our. And if I'm if I'm land lamelo, I'm pretty pissed about how things went down. Lamb to. And I think that you know across the board across the board. You has got to be written for the family here, and I'll take and figure things out, man. But now it's been a really good conversation. Hope that we can continue to again soon when you know, really across the board things got a little bit better. Yeah. Hopefully next time you talk lonzo's in a better spot. Hopefully that money's been recovered, and and he's with Nike and healthy and back on the court. We will see what happens with the sole situation. But it's been certainly been interesting, and has lots turns made you for joining me today. Brian. I really appreciate it everywhere. Make sure if all in Bryan on Twitter at Brian Calabro. See make sure you're following his work on hoops. 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Will he stay or will he go

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Will he stay or will he go

"You will to Stephen a Smith show podcast. Smith Joe is being brought to you by credit karma. Get your truly free credit scores and free credit monitoring from credit karma today. That's credit calmer. K A R A. Get one time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones. Best networks, no contracts. Let's get right to it. The Super Bowl is over Super Bowl. Fifty three is over. But the NBA trading deadline is exactly fifty hours away two days and two hours three pm deadline Thursday afternoon. The NBA trading deadline will have expired and the story of stories that has been circulating throughout this country is Anthony Davis and whether or not he is indeed going to the Los Angeles Lakers. I got news for you Jonathan are you looking at me because I have some very big news few. Are you ready for what I'm really to tell you right now? Anthony Davis will not be going to Boston. Anthony Davis by this summer because I don't believe don't get me wrong. It's not impossible. It could happen. He could definitely still end up in LA this Thursday. But I don't believe it's going to happen. And I'll explain why in a second, but come July of twenty nineteen. Anthony Davis will be a loss Angeles Laker or a New York knick. I'm going to say it again. Anthony Davis will be a Los Angeles. Laker. Or a New York knick. That is what I believe what happened now, obviously. It's one of those situations where the pelicans would have to capitulate, and maybe that's enough to take the Knicks off the table. Here's what I mean. By what I say, those are the two destinations. He wants most. He wants to be in that kind of market Rich, Paul. Let's what's they want him in that kind of market. And I don't believe for one second. I'm sorry to tease, you New York. Knicks fans he ain't coming into New York because the New York Knicks don't have enough assets to get him to New York. Personally speaking, you got a better chance of giving getting Kevin Durant. Then you do getting Anthony Davis because Anthony Davis a wants to be an L A and B LA has more tradable assets than the New York Knicks. Whereas you don't have to have assets to get Kevin Durant. He's a free agent free to end up in New York of his own recognizance. And right now, the New York Knicks targeted Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving as the duo to end up in New York. Are they going to pull it off that remains to be seen? We'll get an all of that as the show progresses today. But right now, the Los Angeles Lakers on the clock. For Anthony Davis. And I gotta tell you something right now. Everybody's been pointing the finger at Magic Johnson how much pressure he's under. I'll tell you the pizza two biggest people who are under pressure for the Los Angeles Lakers. It is Jeanie Buss. If the deal doesn't get done this Thursday. And it is LeBron James if something doesn't happen this summer, and I'm not talking about Anthony Davis. I'm talking about the free agents Kawhi Leonard kyri Irvine. Kevin durant? Klay Thompson Cambo walk Jimmy Butler. I'm talking all of them to markets. Cousin? I'm talking all of them. If somebody does not end up in LA this summer, I'm looking right at liberal, James. I'm looking right at the king. And y'all think Shuki ciggie on Instagram has a ball with me to imitate me who are you talking about the series air, you'd think he has been now. Oh, my Lord material. He's gonna have this summer the Los Angeles Lakers. Lebron James don't get somebody to come to Tinseltown because that's just an excusable. You the best player in the world. You're related you go to LA paltry, sunshine, beautiful weather, Lakers law, the brand that is the Lakers. You can't get anybody to come play with you anybody. You can't get somebody is going to be a problem. It's going to be a problem. But for the moment, this is not on LeBron James. And I have to say it's on the lovely sweetheart of a woman that is Jeanie Buss. It's not Magic Johnson. First of all, let me be very very clear. What I'm about to say Magic Johnson would categorically probably deny. That's my friend. My brother, I love him. Magic Johnson was sitting next to me on national television. And he said opposite or contrary to what I'm about to tell you. I look dentist faces say that's a damn lie. And you know it. Magic Johnson would not have drafted Lonzo ball if it were not for genius. Excited. Thank you once. Say anything you want? Magic Johnson would not have drafted Lonzo poll with the number two overall pick. If it were not Jimmy bus. Teeny bus, obviously is the matriarch of the Los Angeles Lakers. She is wonderful daughter of the late great, doctor, Jerry Buss. She is. An extraordinary woman who does a great great job stewarding. The Lakers franchise. But over the course of her career because he's been involved in a business SAFA, quite sub Tom she's made two pivotal mistakes. Two of them. Number one because she had to honor her daddy's wishes knowing that her daddy wanted her son his son Jim bus to run. Basketball operations. She capitulated to the wishes of a daddy. Which is obviously forgivable because that's how daddy and she loved him. So and this man. Wanted that son? Who bought away? I don't know Jim bus from mcadoo pay had the pleasure of talking to him wants meeting, him, etc. Etc. I'm not trying to excoriate him as a person. I'm not trying to say he some bad guy. He some bad seed or you some bats. I would never say that that's responsible. I don't I wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about. I have no idea what his relationship with his son was I'm not getting into all of that. But I do know this. He wasn't the most competent brother in the world when it came to basketball operations. I do know this this a few times he was seeing that hooters while a basketball game was being played at Staples Center. And I do know this number three his relationship with genie bus. Was visibly toxic enough that it made people around them very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. Now Jeanie Buss it's not that she obviously acquiesce capitulated to the demands of her daddy and let Jim bus run basketball operations. He's a sibling to he's the he's a son as well or child or Dr buzzers, well, so he's got rights that she has to we get all of that the flip side to it. However, what the hell you did keep him in that position so long how come you didn't get rid of him sooner before the damage that he did was potentially irreparable? So that was problem number one for Jeanie Buss problem number two because she's not a billionaire. Like Steve bomber is or the late Paul Allen, Mark Cuban and others because the money in the bus family, even though if they sold it they'd be billionaires because they'd be I mean, somebody I mean, you take the clippers got if the clippers are worth two billion for bombing. A by the Lakers are easily worth three billion. Okay. But the bus the bus family synonymous with the Lakers. They don't want to sell. Okay. We get that. Here's the other side to all of that. Jeannie bus. Needed a box office draw lavar ball, the marketing wizard that he is put his son in our minds are. Had us thinking this brother outta chino hills star for UCLA is going to be special in the pros. And the reality is we haven't seen that yet. I'm not saying that Lonzo ball's of scrub. I'm not saying I'm not trying to disrespect them. I know he can play. He's smart too. Getting bigger it's working on his game. But here's the reality of the situation. Two things are very real about him. His jump shot is lacking. But more importantly than that is a service. My number one knock against Lonzo ball is lack of I can't believe I'm saying that what the daddy. He's got that. He's not aggressive enough. Because that's the last thing. You would hear you concern yourself with about our son of lavar ball that he wouldn't be aggressive enough. But he's not. And because of that think about this. Why is all of this relevant on a day that we're talking about Anthony Davis? I'll tell you why. With a coups more within Ingram. If you had Jason Tatum. You think it would be harder or easier to make a deal with the pelicans? The pelicans the lake is on the table right now. They put Ingraham. They put coups MMA. They put contagious. Well, pope. They put you know who Josh on. They've got two first round picks that they forfeited and damaged and it still ain't enough. You try to tell me what beat that easier for the pelicans to hold the four. If Jason Tatum was available or the Aaron FOX all Laurie marketed or Dennis Smith junior to a lesser degree Maliki monk. Well, how about Donovan Mitchell? These are all people that Magic Johnson passed up to draft. Lonzo ball the. Fox. Yes, FOX that point guard on a Sacramento Kings team that looks quite good, ladies and gentlemen, you start at three sixty dunk. By Marvin Bagley last night. They got especially young athletes on echo and the era FOX when we saw him in college. His last game. Was a step further than UCLA because he dropped thirty nine on Lonzo ball. And bounce UCLA right out of the postseason tournament. You could have drafted. It is people number two overall. You chose Lonzo ball because clearly. It was a box office people. And now you the Los Angeles Lakers and you're in a bond. You're in a bind. And the reason why you're in a bond is because guess what? The pelicans are being pressured not to do a damn thing for the Lakers and everybody's going to deny and that's fine. But the league don't want this to happen. Executives for respective teams. Particularly in the small market don't want this to happen opposing GM's. Don't want this to happen opposing agents. Don't want this to happen. Then don't like Rich, Paul. In a damn sure don't like rob Pelinka GM for the Los Angeles Lakers. Which is why it's magic that has to be on the phone with Dell debts because he wouldn't even talk to rob Pelinka for what I'm told. Now, fairness rob Pelinka. A gentleman. That's always been nice to me. Now did anything wrong to me? I don't have any problems Ropley. And I'm lean on what Kobe says in terms of him being that basketball savant somebody that played with the fab five he was their teammate near back to back trips to the national championship game. He's been stellar agent throughout his career. But you got some ages that have very very bitter feelings about him. And then is Rich Paul. Now in the interest of full disclosure. I talked to all of these agents. Rich, Paul amongst them. I happen to like Rich, Paul. I like Rich, Paul Allott. I think he's a good brother who knows how to hustle, and guess what? If he's outdueling you at your own game deal with it. If y'all expect to somebody hate on Rich, Paul y'all came to the wrong place. And no, I don't get anything from Rich Paul because Rich Paul talked on the Bronx. And LeBron I are cordial with each other. We say hi bye. And that's it. I lead the interviews to Rachel Nichols to LeBron. And I don't have that kind of relationship and that is fine with me. But I love Rich Paul. I love maverick Carter. I love readiness. I love his whole cruel guys. I love them because guess what they on their grand. They're doing their own things and they're good real brothers. That's making an honest living and representing him very very well. And they're ultra protective of him as they should be. They're good people. Who don't deserve by the way to be criticized as much criticized. But if you're Rich, Paul. I don't know anybody who has a negative word to say about maverick Carter. I and my God, you're see him. He starts Molly sm- he eats. Molitor, cockroach Macron, he's always got to smile on this laser friendly as you wanna be Rich, Paul not so much. We talked about rich. He's proven to be a hell of an agent. That tries to make things happen. And he's trying to get Anthony Davis to LA. And clearly this was in the works since last summer. So that's what you have are the way you slice. It. You have people who by the way. Lebron's enemy. I'll drink league. I'm not talking about the league office. I'm talking about team officials. They look at him as the embodiment of what they don't want these athletes to be because LeBron is an incredibly influential empower, Leslie. Who has been able to dictate his own destinations on three occasions. That can snap the money that can shove whatever influence you think you got that can look somebody like Pat rally in the space and say by fully. I don't need, you know, more. I did this. I'm doing this. I gave you four years. Mess with abroad. But we ain't enemies a good do incredible role model. In a champion. But he with the level of power, and it's very public and flagrant about it to such a degree that makes the status quo one comfortable. Not with him. But with others destined to follow the try to do the things then he has done, and they're not having it. Would you hear people talking about Anthony Davis nowhere? Hell he end up in LA before Thursday. They'll they're saying stuff like you cannot allow brawn James to get away with this. Those are the words they're using. That's not me. Those are the words they're using you cannot allow broad James. He's a play right? They don't feel that way. They hear Klett sports. We're Rich Paul that. They can he's running it. That's what they're thinking. They think he's behind everything. So the bottom line is when you look at it from that perspective. They want to stop him. Davis will end up in LA before the trading deadline. Expires your capitulating till LeBron's the same the Braun left Cleveland for Miami. Without telling the owner, and he found out on television, like the rest of us, the save LeBron who let who left Pat Riley while Pat Rowley would allow them morning and others flew Vegas to talk to him. They were talking the Rich Paul LeBron was on an intendo game. Or whatever the hell, PlayStation, or whatever the hell. It was to the point where Lonzo morning another felt the need to approach him and go like yo man showed us man, some respect you can't do that. People tell me that. And it wasn't a long though. But that's how flagrant the disrespect was towards Pat. Riley impact rallies is at the time. So you had an owner like Dan Gilbert offended, you had a guy like Pat rally of fended your come back to Cleveland. Brilliant move. Rates of fifty to yell Kurth. Their win a championship. You left Cleveland? Again, you own them nothing. They should be grateful for our. And now you go to LA. And in the me, Tom along the way, you proven to be a savant as a basketball, mind brilliant at business, and literally bringing Gaza long and teaching them how to be just as brilliant as you are and how to buck the system all things to be appreciated all things to be at my all things to look LeBron James say damn what a great role model but tick Yalies being African American considering a plight and the challenges to educate in a reach back and extend yourself the way that you do what a what a special, man. Then you got bold. He got your own show on HBO. And you advertised. Who you are. And who you wanted to be even more member when he went Nick Sabin actor like his show. This was the first time something like that have been done and somebody was stealing your idea. Nick statement of all but not the person wanted to get a fight with. And then after that you start talking about owners in the NFL and accused him of having a quote plan tasted mentality. Well, now, you publicized your agenda, even more. So. So now you scared the living hell out of everybody. At to capitulate to LeBron James. Is to send the league in a backward direction in there. I Stephen a Smith. I'm not saying this to you. I telling you, what has been told to me as the motivation and the incentive behind the attitude that states no way in hell to you. Give in. To what the Lakers and LeBron James once. That's the whole that Magic Johnson has been put in and I'm not saying he can't dig himself out of it. Because he's over Magic Johnson. I'm saying, ladies gentlemen, is a hell of a lot to ask for him to pull it off before this Thursday. But it ain't finished yet. 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NBA Mar. 26 | What You Need To Know

The Free Agents

08:24 min | 2 months ago

NBA Mar. 26 | What You Need To Know

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Live i'm learning so many things from you just reading the comments commodity coffee is what the cool kids are calling coffee these days while. I'm learning so much from me. All right besides that. I'm going to do something a little different here and grade. The moves that weren't made at the nba trade deadline for kyle lowry lonzo ball and john collins. The busiest nba trade deadline in history is in the books. Felt like it could be a bit of a dud. The morning of things were sleepy early on no movement but then the trade start coming in seventeen trades on the day now everyone is evaluating those. But what about the trades. That didn't happen. I want great those ones. How can i. Grade and non-trade. How can i possibly know who is offered by either side. Will i don't but that has never stopped talking head before. And i've got some knowledge in the old brain so yeah let's get to it. You guys comment chime in. Let me know what you're thinking. Let's take kyle lowry. for instance. The sixers heat and clippers made other guard moves instead of grabbing thirty five year old champ. Kyle who will be a free agent this offseason. The sixers got george hill. The clippers got rajon rondo. Mina got victor oladipo. None is good as kyle arak. Now it's about fit the initial reaction from you guys out. There might be that a depot scoring this year in houston averaging over twenty per game. But he's not shooting that well thirty two percent from three and he isn't the same. Victor oladipo lowry would be a better fit and take the backseat to tyler. Hero handling your jimmy butler doing his thing. Of course miami. Got to the finals because the pieces fit and although only diba wants to be in miami. He's not the same fit as lowry. But the heat didn't offer what rappers. Gm usury wanted if the package was highlighted by. Shooter duncan robinson. He'll also be a free agent this offseason. Who's yeary wanted. A younger cost control player. But we didn't have control doesn't have control over. Larry this offseason either. So what's the great here because lowry is going to be in demand. This offseason along with guys like dennis schroder and lonzo ball but the raptors get a b. Plus yes this talking head understands the raptors run risks that he could go to somewhere like miami and the offseason. Miami retained their salary cap space by trading for ola depot. Who expires this offseason. Just like how. But there's plenty of goodwill between lowering the wraps organization assign trade could happen although it's rare or they sign him back and they do this all over again in february. I guess. I'm assuming a thirty five year old plus eleven months lowry. We'll still have plenty of trade value. Come february that caboose just doesn't age and if he leaves the downside is they missed out on someone. Like duncan robinson. Although robinson's very solid player the raptors just aren't close enough to a championship to value everything robinson does was holding out for somebody who could change the trajectory of the franchise. A little bit more like tyler herro. The same can probably be said of lonzo ball with the pelicans. The pelicans held onto the soon to be free. Agent but ball will be in high demand. This offseason the knicks didn't go hard at the deadline. They're waiting to push their chips in this offseason. That's what makes me grade this a c. For new orleans ball is having a career year but isn't playing with the ball handling responsibilities. He'd like i am oh with eric. Bledsoe zion williamson handling the rock man. I sound like lavar ball too much talking head over here. I'm going a little nuts. I'm talking like lavar but ball will be a restricted free agent. So the pelicans can match any offer he gets in free agency. Say from the knicks. So that's that's something. The pels have in their court if newark offers ball. The max pelicans just match them bring them back. No questions asked. But i don't think they do that. Considering their obligations to brandon. Ingram stephen adams and future max. Obligations design williamson is twenty three point guard. Competition in this year's marketplace will likely be dennis schroder and lowery. He'll get paid a lot and unlike the connection. Lowery has with toronto ball. Doesn't have that in new orleans. I say he lives in new york. We're he'll get a huge market more spotlight to rival mellow ball. And he'll be on the opposite. Coast of papa ball. He'll show dead that he's his own man us boys. We all have our daddy issues. Don't we lastly. Let's talk about the hawks. John collins where i presume to know what he'll do in the offseason i'm giving this non move in a i think he sticks around in atlanta this offseason. I'm working off some recency bias. Here he recently said on a post game press conference that he wants to stay. Doesn't want to max contract like he wanted before he already rejected a ninety million dollar contract extension in january twenty twenty from the atlanta's but you know the pandemic and change man changed has changed a lot of things. So why am i buying. What a player says in as zoom presser. Why will he accept less money. To san atlanta. Well it could change from. John coincided also could change from the front office site. The hawks could sign a to. Max deal this offseason when he's a restricted free agent and they can trade them later on. They got off some future. Money by trading rondo at the deadline. The coaching change in atlanta may have affected collins future outlook. But it all comes down to dollars and even though the likely pay trae young max dollars in the future. They don't have money tied up like the pelicans do. I think john collins could come back on some sort of contract and the hawks at some point and say listen even if we signed you. Tear amac's or close to. Max we can trade you later on. I think both sides will come to an agreement and the hawks getting a for not moving on john collins. Smart move smart move so went through a few grades there. Everybody evaluating the trades that have happened including us on no dunks yesterday and later on today. Make sure you check out a full. No dunks episode here on friday. Thank you for joining me early or late. Wherever you are op back on monday to give you the news as fast as i possibly can here on what you need to talk to you then.

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Woj and Lowe '21 Trade Deadline Show

The Lowe Post

21:18 min | 2 months ago

Woj and Lowe '21 Trade Deadline Show

"The low post is brought to you by goodyear celebrating march deal days with month-long service and savings visit goodyear auto service dot com for offers and now the loan has welcome to the wolves low. Nba trade deadline special zach lowe here with senior insider agent hausky. We are twenty four hours and thirty minutes away from the nba trade deadline. Let's get right to it. All roads woge lead through our friends from north of the border who are playing south of the border and that's the toronto raptors twenty nineteen champions currently playing in tampa bay. And let's start with maybe the only player that is even semi available who could swing the entire championship balance with one straight. And that's kyle lowry the raptors legendary point guard the greatest player raptors franchise history. What are we hearing with. Twenty four hours to go about kyle. Zach listen kyle. Lowry is very much available. Now and listen. There's a perfect storm going on in toronto with the losing streak. How far they have fallen back in the eastern conference standings with kobe tissues injuries And the fact that obviously lowry is in the final year of his deal philadelphia The miami heat. There are a number of teams engaged as you know zach the raptors beside jerry and bobby webster their front office. They're going to work with kyle lowry and his agent mark bartlestein on where he might like the flight if they're going to do a deal but here's one team to zach that don't rule out of this one between now and thursdays. Trade deadline the lakers. Ooh that's spicer. Look the lakers. If lebron anthony davis out for longer than maybe expected out for fifteen or twenty games or whatever it is they are at real risk of falling into the play tournament in the western conference which is an incredible turn of events but the lakers and the brooklyn nets more or less are the focus of some of these other teams philadelphia and miami who might consider themselves one piece away one little tweak away from competing with the biggest and the best teams philly has been the most obvious home for kyle lowry right. They have tyrus. Maxine danny green. They can trade a pick miami. It'll be interesting to see what they can package with. Those are teams that have long been linked to kyle and are looking for upgrades but let's not forget the raptors have another guy playing out of his mind averaging twenty points a game now in the last year of his contract. Norman powell elaine. Drew can play both wing. Positions can shoot. Three's contrived to the hoop and every team could really use a guy like that. The market for him is really wide right. It's really big. And you know you imagine that whiteboard they have in the raptors facility and messiah jerry bobbi webster putting up all the deals in the offers they have it is significant and they're going to have an opportunity here the next day to decide what is what is the kind of package they want. Is it kicks is a young player nitpick but this is a player who could decline. It will assuredly decline his player option deal this year will become a free agent and as you said this has been really a breakout season for him at twenty seven shooting forty three percent or so from three there are teams who would like to trade for him and then be able to have his bird rights in sign him moving forward with kyle lowry. It's a little different. There's some teams who see. He might just be a rental for them. Are they going to move forward with him. With norman powell who teams don't want to trade for the rest of this season but then want to have the ability to sign him and keep them long term. Here's how good. Norman powell has been if you pulled twenty gm's right now. Who would you rather pay big money this summer. Norman powell or victor all the depot another big trade deadline named it might be like ten or even twelve. Eight in favor of norman powell and this for the raptors. This isn't like a long term multi-year tank necessarily they come back if they trade these guys with van bleed an ob crm. It's sort of like a year tampa tank. This is a loss season for us. Let's capitalize on it. Come back next year and reload. Let's move quickly now is. We're talking about teams. That are maybe one piece away the other big name. This leak late linked to some of these teams has been aaron gordon in orlando who reportedly requested a trade. We can talk about where that stands in a second. But he's been linked to boston denver. Some reporting not minor yours is linked him to portland. What are we hearing on. Ag what's the latest. Yeah houston's another team. That's engaged orlando on aaron gordon but you mentioned that trade request. That was made weeks ago Well i'm told in the last twenty four forty eight hours area. Gordon has had some second thoughts about that trade requests about whether he actually really wants to leave orlando But the magic their front office. They forged ahead and trying to find a deal for. Gordon mentioned boston and sometimes boston. We'll get into some of these. Trade talks and teams are never quite sure how serious they are about following through. But i think the sense is that boston is very serious. About trying to acquire gordon and i think for the magic here. This is a chance now to start taking a look at how they want to reshape this roster moving forward but whatever aaron gordon wants right now i know that orlando and their front office. They're going to do what's best for them. That may very well being a taking the best package they can. That's one you can expect to go right up to that thursday deadline and then orlando taking their best offer and moving your and gordon. Yeah houston got very serious with orlando. I think that seems to have fallen apart. Denver is super interesting to me because they have some young guys and they can trade a pick. And they have salary filler. And gary harris and we'll barton that matches in years. Aaron gordon's contract almost immediately. He fills jeremy grant twitter forward defence. I player that they lacked in that. They're going to need to get through. Kuwiat were lebron james. The long term picture though is michael porter. Jr. is gonna get a ton of money. Yokich murray already do make a ton of money. Can denver really afford for big salaries. Minnesota's been in on aaron gordon. I think orlando would love to get their hands on. Jd mcdaniels in any kind of trade like that. What are you hearing about portland loja. Another team has done incredible work to hang in despite injuries and i could use one last infusion of talent to really really compete. What are you hearing about them. I think portland's bend very active and You know listen. They used some picks and some trades here in the last several months. The robert covington deal with houston that they did. You know before the season. But this is a team in portland that as you said. It's they start to get their guys back. And i think you look at some of those perimeter players out there. You know a norman powell even ola depot on a rental. I think those they have the assets in portland if they decide that they want to get involved especially with somebody in a rental situation. They've got some young players there but they also really liked the young guys. They have in portland. One thing you've been able to see the blazers new through the years is draft. Well hit it on the second round guys and then get those players better and another name to watch. I think his gary junior who's had an outstanding year and a half was crazy. Good in the bubble for the blazers. He's restricted free agent. He would have a lot of value. His matching right would have a lot of value. Any young guy and with that in mind. Let's take a break and when we come back we'll talk about some of the exciting young guys. Potential future building blocks who might be on the move in the next twenty four hours. Welcome back to the woods. Low trade deadline special. Let's transition right into some exciting young guys who may be on the move this week and let's start right in new orleans where lonzo ball v lonzo ball has been one of the most talked about players in the nba for the last two months was super available then started hitting threes. It looked like rate long-term fit with zeile williamson and maybe even brandon. Ingram is sort of a hybrid guard kind of created his own position. He's headed to restricted free agency. This summer expected have some suitors. Maybe some big markets presenting new orleans david griffin their basketball operations. Chief with a big decision. Loge is going to happen. Mr ball well. New orleans certainly has been opened for business on lanzobol one team. They talked with atlanta. That's gone by the wayside. I think the hawks for all intensive purposes are going to stand pat. Think the one team the watch with lonzo ball The chicago bulls and they have a player in a similar situation. Lauri markkanen who didn't sign his rookie extension and the off season couldn't agree on a deal just like lonzo ball didn't in new orleans and i think there's the the framework way to get a deal done certainly chicago needs a point guard They also have cap space and they could go out in signed ball to an offer sheet in the off season and so i think for david griffin in new orleans. What kind of assets can they get back for ball. They still want to try to get into the playoffs. He has played well. And you know they can deal with it in the off season. But i do think there's motivation on the part of both sides to see if there's a deal they could make here in the next day. That's almost a challenge. Trade your guy from my guy would wonder which side would demand picks in that situation even a second round. Pick maybe new orleans. I think lonzo probably has been a little better than market in this year. Marketing would be an interesting fit in new orleans. You build a good defense with zion williamson and marketing at the foreign the five. It would seem unlikely that marketing. Zion stephen adams who. They've committed a lot of money to play together. So that's a really interesting potential trade. Let's talk about atlanta. You just hinted that they might stand pat and their outgoing restricted free agent. John collins power forward center. Whatever you like has been one of the most talked about guys in the league. It seems like the hawks who've won eight out of nine. It seems likely that they're going to keep him to keep this. Playoff run going is watch the they are going to keep john collins and you know they played really well under nate mcmillan. Since he's taken over as head coach she certainly you know the teams got healthier. But i think if they do anything in atlanta again something more around the edges than with their core players there were discussions with john collins with a number of teams But but expect him to finish the year with the hawks. He's really good by the way he only makes four million so it's hard to trade a player at that salary for a really good player. I i don't really get why. Atlanta would have been in a rush to get rid of john collins. He's a really good player. Let's go couple years up on the age curve but to a guy who's only two years in one big injury removed from being a legit all nba player. And that's victor depot. Who went from indiana to houston as part of the james harden mega trait. He's to unrestricted. Free agency has turned out more extensions that i can count at this point from multiple teams some of the teams. That have been rumored to be interested in victoria. People also have cap room this summer. And thus the ability to sign him outright without trading anything for him. What's the market like for him. He's had a very uneven. Last couple of years hasn't looked back. Great in houston. What should the rockets realistically expect to get return. Yeah it's it's a really fascinating case and you're right you know. He turned down an extension with the rockets two years. Forty five million. The most they could do during the season. Turn down in indiana before he was traded. This is a player who right now. We've got a lot of teams looking at him. Maybe as a rental and making kind of mobile offers to see if they can prime away by houston believes that they've got between now and thursday afternoon the ability to get back some real value for him. Whether that's a young player whether that's a combination of young player and pick my sense. They might have a first round pick in the middle of the first round range but team like miami and we we know there has been a long mutual interest between victor oladipo. And the miami heat. They have the cap space to go. Sign him if they decide. That's what that's what they wanna do this summer. So they've not been real aggressive aggressive it all with houston to give up any assets right now. New york is another team. That has certainly the cap space this summer. I don't sense. The interest in a future partnership with the depot is significant with the knicks. I think the wait and see approach talking about is absolutely the right move and that if houston ken get that kind of mid first round. Pick from anybody. That's a win at this point for the rocket to made a really interesting decision by the way to choose effectively. Victory depot over cares lavertu as part of that jacob's heart rate. So we'll see what they do. Next coming back we will talk about buyout guys. And there's some big names on the market linked to some big contending teams will get into it next. Welcome back to the woods. Low trade deadline special. Let's fly through some of the premier buyout candidates starting with cleveland cavaliers center. Andre drummond seems unlikely. They'll find trade partner given his huge salary almost thirty million. He could really help. Either of the los angeles teams the brooklyn nets. Really anybody would. What should we expect. Where's he going to be playing in a couple of days Andre drummond he. He's going to be the crown jewel of that buyout market by all appearances right now of both los angeles teams the lakers. The clippers are expected to have great interest The brooklyn nets supports. Like they're trying to gather up every every great player of former great player in the league in the market and then the celtics and mavericks our teams to watch andrei reading. Listen is you know zach. A lot of these players. Don't want to take buyouts. they wanna to get traded. They don't want to become have the perception that there are minimum player because usually a sign of minimum deal in the buyout market. But it looks like that's where andre drummond headed for unless cleveland can find a trade that we probably don't expect they will hear the next twenty four hours but certainly with the lakers. He'd move right in he'd be their starting center. I think the most significant with that l. a. team. He'd look great next to lebron role in for dunks. And all that in brooklyn he'd give them another joel. Embiid antidote another big body to battle. Joel embiid nick claxton. Who's been sensational backing up. The andre jordan can't really do that isn't ready for that kind of physicality let's move to lamarcus aldridge. Who has agreed to part ways. Really with the spurs stretch. Five at this point is careers. Lost probably half a step on defense but could probably still help team in a limited role certainly has been coveted since the spurs thing happened Where we're hearing for him now. I think miami is going to be a front runner for lamarcus aldridge. If you think back to aldridge's free agency when he left portland for san antonio actually took a meeting with riley even though the heat really didn't have a cap space signed him and riley did such a great job talking to him about team the importance of going somewhere in winning and being a part of something bigger than himself it actually pushed them all of your told be to the spurs over the suns at that time and now they potentially aldridge and pat riley exposed to. We'll have a chance to finally get together. You mentioned the sons. That was his other two thousand fifteen free agency team. I think he'd fit great there. I think they need one more guy who can either play with dario saric or place of dario sarge. There's a matchup for some reason. Just one more rotation guy we'll get we'll get to them later. Miami has a great chance again. But i still think lamarcus aldridge. I think he's going to have a lot of options when he gets out into the market. And i would expect to charlotte hornets also to be among the teams to at least reach out. He'd have an instant big role there. Let's transition go back to the pelicans. It's sort of shocking. That the jj regular in new orleans would come to a bio. It appears we're headed that way. And look you can never have enough shooting. You can never have enough wings. Yeah he's aging. Yeah he's not the greatest defensive player in the world but he can help. He's played on big stages. These playoff tested ward. Where do we think was. The rettig is going to end up. Well we know where he keeps his offseason home exact you know. We know where he spends. Its time that's that's in brooklyn and it certainly will have an opportunity there. I think there's one team though. If you willing to geographically move back out west the utah jazz. And he's influence snyder. The jazz huge certainly both do guys. They've had a long great relationship. And i know that. Jj always had great. Respect for quin snyder But i think geography may play a big part of this and And brooklyn certainly has the ability to bring in a few buyout guys here and continue to really put a roster together. That's gonna have great death in optionality in the postseason does. Jj place la because the romantic in me with loving jj. Redick returned to the clippers. Another team that sorta cycles through which guard is gonna close games next to their big wings shooting shooting shooting. That's what everyone wants to romantic kind of wants that but it seems like brooklyn is the front runner and when we get back. We're gonna have some fun. I am going to build some trades that i would like to see happen or that. I think makes sense would tell me that i'm an idiot. And a moron and all these traits are terrible but stay tuned for some fake trade. That i think are actually pretty good on the woods. Low trade deadline special. Think trade time on the wardlow trade deadline special. Let's start with the boston. Celtics the kings of the rumor mill. This was one of the trades that i think made the most sense. Alaska doesn't appear likely to happen. And that's harrison barnes going from sacramento into the boston celtics giant trade exception for aaron smith. Let's call the top ten protected first and then a nice second rounder. Totally unprotected second rounder. Let's get crazy harrison. Barnes would help the celtics and the kings get some nice return for guys got two years left on a big contract woge wise. It's not going to happen. Well listen. They are listening on harrison barnes with the kings. But there's this idea that you actually have a good player on a good contract. You know who's actually helped you win. Games they wanna to get into the playoffs here in the near future in sacramento i to me. I'm not moving harrison barnes unless someone blows me away. He's been a really efficient good player for the kings. You just can't be in a perpetual rebuild mode fair enough let's move onto just my vanity project. I want the phoenix suns to look at this as a championship window. That's open for them and make at least a small win now move. This is the first one. Ken ritual if you haven't heard of cambridge williams. He's playing great as a hybrid. Forward at oklahoma city flipped. John carter and a couple of picks you get a big guy or a wing. Whatever you wanna call them. Who can play with dario. Sorry and backup units even spot minutes on the wing daniel house same kind of deal and now we're getting crazy now. We're getting a little crazy. Pull teams might say no to just one honestly because jalen just got picked in the top ten and they're giving up another first but since junior again a big who would play with dario saric on bench. Units could close some games for them. Give them another body a really good playoff player. I think that would be a home. run for phoenix. Just not getting enough. Love their second in the west amateurs to win. Let's go for it. Price be damn so that's my phoenix vanity project. Let's move on one more fig trade. I think we got who do we have next. We have miles. Turner indiana a lot of all tilde in indiana. Let's trade miles turner to charlotte. Who badly needs to center. Cody zeller in one. Pick isn't doing it. Let's make an top ten protected pick and throw in. Pj washington so indiana decliners. Their center position gets a really good power forward. Who has a lot of time left on his rookie contract. Anna nice pick charlotte rounds out its roster with an ice pick and pop partner for lamelo ball twentieth. Think lamelo ball had been injured hadn't fractured that. Wristed likely out for season. Listen that's a deal that could really propelled charlotte into you. Know the when he went out. But i think with ball out. I think you may see charlotte retreat. But they've got to improve that center position and they were trying to be acted with that before her. Goodyear knows the importance of keeping momentum as you head down the stretch. Momentum starts with movement. it's pulled from the air like a contested. Rebound momentum builds with steals and fast breaks and is proven by deep threes. Has the shot clock expires. Momentum is how changed the game and now it's time to discover where it can take us go year more driven.

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Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland HOUR TWO

"So how about I pay off the tees right away off right away. Like that you liked that. We're gonna pay off the tees right away. To anti Mason. Just one more reason that your impressive you sat it. You said it too. Really impressive. Yeah. I said that very well too. So Kevin Durant. Lebron james. Yeah. They're they're on similar career pass around similar legacy paths. But there's one really important difference. Which is that LeBron James has been King James since he's fifteen years old where Kevin Durant still doesn't like any nickname anyone's ever tried and has settled for letting you call him by his initials. In the sense that at some point if you're going to be a legend, if you're going to be a myth, if you're going to have a big brand you have to be willing to give people marketing slogans brands framing devices. That's why people get paid millions of dollars to be mad men. Yes. Like if you can make a commercial if you can come up with a great slogan that is memorable that encapsulate encapsulates. Exactly what that brand is. Or who that person is it is so valuable so when when I think LeBron James, let's let's run through a few of his Logan's King, James, hashtag, more than athlete shut up and dribble. No, I won't. I mean, all of these things are these are ways that we define it's a shorthand. It's I- jargon as a shorthand for defining somebody as brand in this show, the boardroom there's the episodes five and six which are really good. I think those are my favorite to emphasize of the whole series because it's rich climate and Kevin Durant talking with maverick Carter. And LeBron James, and they're just having a discussion like MandA man face. Face about are there similar career paths. And that comes out again like thing that we dropped two episodes at a time. So it's a few weeks. Now, those will be released, but in that episode, LeBron James and maverick Carter are wearing shirts that say more than an athlete and Kevin Durant. Enrich climate address. Very well. But there's no slogans, and there's no shirts and Kevin says, I don't like slogans. I don't wanna be defray defined by this. It even says like I don't want to be like, hey, we're thirty five ventures. We're worldwide we're this. We're that Kevin is doesn't want to be defined because his essential nature is that he's restless in searching, and seeking and I think that's great. But somehow you have to lean into that. And you have to make that a cool thing. Or if you wanna be a brand, you have to be a brand, you can't be a brand and not be a brand. Like, if you don't wanna be a brand like if you don't want to be defined outwardly as brand type athlete fine. But then you can't still trying to have a brand. Now, you can try to have a brand. But essentially, his brand is whatever I. Is kinda cool. Like, I think post meets this. Let's invest flying. Drones. Let's go to the desk, though. Because that's not the way people are going to think about the portfolio is exactly exactly that's a portfolio. That's potentially a great investment. It speaks to him having a wide range of interests all of which is terrific. But it's not a brand name all the players right now. You have Steph curry, right. He has nicknames. He has chef curry. He has baby faced assassin. You have even Draymond green has has money. Green everybody. You you were talking about on the break that Mamba is the Mamba Kobe came up the name. Yeah. Black mamba. And then when somebody had to call him vino, we were like, that's great. But also to Kobe found something in branding. That's damn near impossible to pull all wrote a lot of his Nike commercials. Koby leaned into the idea love that I'm gonna market being unlikable. Yeah. That actually going to be my branding is your not to like me. And I'm cool. Yeah. I'm gonna profit essential nature when we talk about mama mentality. It really is being can we we can't use that word on the air. Right. A bleep whole, right? Oh, no. Yeah. Not us. News cage. Yeah. But that is kind of his rand totally is he's like an it's cool to be a jerk. Yes. I mean, and look the there we go. There's another synonym the idea that Koby never cared about. What anybody thought that's not true? Kobe carry you don't put that much effort into your branding. If you don't care what people think, but he wrist and really again leveraged and profited the idea of you don't like me my personalities off pudding fine. I'm gonna monetize that one way or another you have to pick something specific. And then let you know risk the idea of people not liking it. You put yourself out there. And it seems like Kevin Durant isn't quite ready to commit to the idea of this is what I'm putting out there. Yeah. Like, I'm going to stick with this. This is how in some ways you're gonna define me. Yeah. Because you don't want to be defined in anyone that is. He doesn't want to be defined at all if you wanted to find himself. Yeah. When you go into Twitter, and you go. Sorry into Google and use type in blink nickname. He's type in Steph curry like I said, it would had Babyface assassin. Russell Westbrook had beasts, Brooke whatever it was somebody King, James. I like that. I know that's pretty good one. I like that too. If you type in Kevin Durant nickname, it says K D, And that's it because he doesn't have great. When the slim reaper mastic is the great nicknamed of just ease right into and he is moved away from it. And that's part of I think his issue why we don't consider him as one of the greatest players of all time is because he refuses to be a defined defined them be play along with the with the play with the crowd with the fans. And well, I think he I think he does in a sense. But he does play along you plays with the crowd. And he's certainly tweets about it, surely Instagram comment, you give that guy burner accounting, a bunch of eggs, all he'll start playing. He actually talks about this in one of the episodes of the boardroom, which I thought was like he actually is very revealing very honest. And when he says, he says, you know, I didn't have a lot of friends growing up. I was always playing basketball. He went to four different high schools is always taking public transportation hours on the train every day. I mean this guy worked so hard to get from where he came from to the NBA just it's it's really an unbelievable story. And yet he. He didn't because he didn't have friends growing up. He didn't necessarily few you guys, can you? But never really close. She's like I didn't go to school dances and Twitter kind of became a way of for him to interact with people. And then he got to this point where he realised like anything he said on Twitter if you go back to early. Kevin Durant tweets when he was like first couple years, really, they're outstanding. Like he would just be up late at night talking to people on Twitter. It's unbelievable. It's like, really honest. Interesting stuff. Like, I remember talking to used to cover him back. Then he was. So like, just you could I I wish somebody would just pull his early tweets and make a whole story out of them like annotate them. And then he got to famous too good and the Pri the spotlight was too hot on him. So anything he would say in tweets would then become big stories. And he realized that that would happen. He actually says on the show. That's why I gotta burner cow because I wanted to be able to like still have that interaction like normal fan or a normal person. And I didn't want to have the. Sequential of that of me saying that publicly and how all these stories spawned from. He says is on the show. He's like we talked about self awareness. I don't know kind of has it. Well, yes. And no though, I mean, the the problem is what you're choosing to get into as the burner. Yeah. Like, it's one thing if you're just looking to have conversations that you don't want to necessarily get picked up on. But it's another thing too. I want to argue about what makes Kevin Durant. Great under somebody else's name. I want to argue about why. Kevin durant? Didn't take the easy way out by joining the warriors. Like, that's a different conversation to have not under your name. Like, I would argue. That's the one thing you should be having under your name if you're gonna bother arguing with strangers on Twitter at all. I mean, there's a there's another way of looking at it, which is simply you make a choice, and then you have to stand behind your choice. Yes. And you have to own your choice, and you have to not defend it anymore. You made the choice. You had you had good reason for that. You tell you told people, which are reasons were maybe you didn't tell them all the reasons, but you've you've you've made the choice stand. Down there and on it, which by the way, taking this full circle back to the original observation I had about the commonalities between Durant's path and LeBron that's something LeBron had to figure out too because in the beginning with wearing the black hat Miami. There was an obvious defensiveness to this. Yeah. And after a while LeBron just a bleep it, man. I don't care. Yeah. Like, this is what I did. I don't care if you don't like it a well. Yeah. And that was that point four LeBron is where I think everything that's really made him memorable since you know, like taking part in putting his voice to social issues like really taking ownership of the league like it began with the decision. But like the the control that LeBron has really exercised, and you know, the involvement with the players social all that stuff. I think there's a reason a lot of it came after the point where said bleep it. I don't care. I just don't care. So I don't I would argue that he never said, I don't care. I think he definitely cares. And I think that he. Somehow just started winning enough that he was able to control he stopped outwardly showing signs that he didn't show as much insecurity. He just one more. Like, I like, I he started winning and Miami like, that's it. He just they they they lost the first year was too much pressure on him. He hated being he booed, and he hated being unlike then eventually, I wouldn't say necessarily that. I don't care. You just said I actually came here for a reason and this, and I I wanna win I came here to play with my my buddies, and he said, it was like going to college like he had to do something hard and not everyone's going to like it or understand it. But then once he made this decision. Let's enjoy it. Let's just do it. And then they won. And everything was okay. Once he won once they one my once LeBron James one that I titled Miami. His people started giving them a lot more credit the difference between the Brown, and Kevin Durant is that Kevin one in Golden State, and they do not only not give him more credit. It actually almost made the hate worse. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles. But at the same time, though with LeBron it took some time before he really started getting credit that he has now and that time was going to Cleveland and winning. There were still people detracting from those championships in Miami. Because everyone thinks they stack the deck and joined up with future hall of famers, and he orchestrated that whole thing because he couldn't do it on his own as if anybody wins on their own that doesn't happen. You know in terms of sustained winning. Nobody does it on their own. But there was a point though, and you can probably answer this better night can because I know, you know, LeBron better than I do. But there there seemed to be a point where LeBron came to realize at the end of the day. The only person my legacy needs to satisfy me. Yeah. One of the biggest things that happened for LeBron is that he had a family and his family moved from Cleveland Miami. So the first year he was in Miami. He was all by himself, and they and his wife and kids stayed back in Cleveland. Here's really lonely, and there's all those stories of. In writing his bike places. No single, dude. Bachelor whatever. And you know, I'm not saying that having a family is what changes everything for you? But it certainly matters. And they'll say perspective because you perspective, and it gives you a grounding it gives you a foundation. And I think he really choice being a dad, you know, I think he really loves his kids, and it gives him a sense of belonging, and grounding, and that you know, he didn't have growing up. Right. He talks about that pretty openly in terms of his family. And I wrote I wrote about this at the time when he was in Miami. And like we don't write about players off the court lives quite as much as we probably because it feels uncomfortable. Sometimes. But I think in the bronze case I think that really mattered that his they everybody moved down to Miami. They his his wife and two kids moved into the head of the third kid while he was there. Kevin still single. It's fine to great be single good. I'm not saying you have to get married, but there's there's a pretty big difference there when you're thirty and single versus when you're early on in your career. Well, I mean you start getting like more of a. Perspective on who you should be living for. Yeah. And it becomes I think easier not to live for the fans or care as much about what outside forces of you. When you have the people around you that at the end of the day, really matter the most like, you know, when when you have in the bronze gates your three children. Yeah. And your wife that ultimately it matters. What they think it gives you an idea of who it doesn't matter what they think. And Durant spends a lot of time caring about what alternately the people. He shouldn't care about like, I mean there. Yeah. Because I mean, you know, the idea of the goat or, you know, the the rankings were these are all arbitrary like there's no set list. Like, none of this really matters. It's fun. Yeah. These are fun conversations to have. And they they generate literally our livelihood, and they helped generate the livelihood of all these players, and they're fun. But they don't matter. And there there's something liberating that LeBron came to realizing Durant hasn't yet that none. This actually matters. And I say this to like, I, you know, somebody I care what people think, of course, they do everybody. Does anybody who tells you? They don't like, but I think. That was good. That was heading off the I'm very impressive. I cannot sneath. That was pretty good. Stop to sneeze midst. Did it's like karate kid where he gets the fly really was. I was like, no. Yeah. Stop. That's news. I I I'm highly trained professional. Anyway. So I really think LeBron that it's he it's not so much that he stopped caring like he. He did. He did he still cares you still passive aggressive. He still watches sports center, so recess Twitter fee still interact with fans that way, he just learned to deal with it better. When like like, honestly, I still read my Twitter. Mentioned course, I still do. I read I like all your comments on Instagram when you post mostly it's because I post pictures of the baby. And like I feel like if people take the time to write me, a nice comment. I should hit like, you know, I appreciate you liking short. Yeah. Thank you. I knowledge you. But I I still see the haters sometimes I'll DM people direct message people when they say something stupid to me and open. No. If you follow me, I can damn you. Okay. I don't you don't have to call you back. I thought it had to be two. When did not know that. Yeah. So when somebody writes something stupid to me a lot. I don't give them the satisfaction of a public response unless I feel like it. But I will sometimes direct message them. It's fun. I would say one out of fifty I will do that too. But you know, a lot of it is is is it's just that. I learned to deal with it more like let stuff slide off my back more. I don't worry about it. It still bothers me a little bit like when somebody comes at me real hard, and they don't like this or they think look ugly, you're fat or this or that like still see it. But I guess the difference wasn't like in one in my life. I stopped being so insecure about it. And I was like this is who I am. I am that this is what I look like this is how I talk. I try to be the best version of myself within the constraints of being a wife, a mom a real heaven demanding job where do where seven hats all the time. I just do the best. I can I worked on myself. And you know, that's it just kind of own who you are. It's not so much that I'm happy with everything. I I'm sure of course, I would love to lose twenty five pounds and look cuter and fit into stuff that I fit into ten years ago. But we'll see if it happens. It's not I'm gonna keep trying like you just kind of get. To this point where you just deal with that stuff better. But it also becomes easier. Because you've got you've got things going on in your life. Most recently a child that make you realize what actually matters coming up. Justin Verlander says that the entire salary system in baseball and free agency is broken good talking about that coming up also Sodano joining us Sodano coming on with us, some some plain one more one more. Okay. About twenty minutes. We're gonna be joined by George Donald. We'll get that coming up taking me threatening to you know, because like he has a show, you know, it's not threatening. I'm just going to give George this chair. And let them take over the threatened at all. I'm not throwing the chair. I mean deference Tang. I mean, seventy knows how to stay in his lane yesterday, Noah Mason, Ireland Kim and ski Ramona Shelburne and pitchers and catchers reporting this week Levin guess who is not reporting anywhere. So far, Bryce Harper and Manny Machado. Yup. Two of the biggest names in baseball much less on the free agent market. Neither one of them has a team. It's not clear either. One of them is going to be having a team anytime in the near future. And Houston Astros pitcher Justin Verlander has had enough Ramona. He went to Twitter and said, quote a hundred or so free agents left unsigned system is broken. They blame quote rebuilding. But that's Bs. You're telling me, you couldn't sign Bryce or Manny to ten years and go from there seems like a good place to start to rebuild for me. Twenty six to thirty six is a great performance window to what do you think is going on right now? In terms of these other big names, like Dallas cycles and unsigned free agent. There are other big names that are not with a team right now with the season. Yeah. The the last part of the quotas. The most important twenty-six thirty six good performance when no actually no it's not it's really not twenty six to thirty one is and then after thirty one it's kind of you can't really predict it like when you look at the analytics of it. I think enough Ivy league GM's who have a bent on ener lyrics. Look at the wins above replacement and all that stuff in baseball. Like they've studied this, and, you know, Andrew freidan from the dodgers doesn't like to do more than five years for a pitcher for the very reason. Like he's done enough of the math. And they've done enough of the modeling. It's just projecting out. It's like, they're essentially actuaries. Right. You know, an actuary is. I don't know if everybody is. And actually is somebody who basically, I know not as impressive as I'm really impressive. It actually is somebody who predict what you're gonna get a lot of work today and actually somebody who predicts when you're going to die. Okay. In short. It's somebody that an insurance company will hire to study your health results, they will model things out based on your behaviors your job everything else. And they'll give an insurance company a pretty good prediction of how healthy you are going to be in for how long and then that's hell, they'll sell your life insurance policy was younger, the actuary would have bet the under right to say that right now to hell of a job, isn't it? That is that's a very both important and morbid gig. Yeah. Like the idea of predicting. All right, this how long you have. Yeah. I mean, I when I bought a life insurance policy. Okay. A couple of years ago. I bought one. I was like, oh, I'm old enough. Now, I should get a life insurance policy. You make sure Nevins taken care of and the babysitting. We didn't have a baby we're going to. So I went and did this and like you have to get a whole physical and this and that and they go actually you have to pay more for yours because you're overweight like what they g. Okay, fine. Yeah. That's what they do yet is thought it's kind of rude. I was kinda ruined. You've already got the thought of death in your head. Insurance policy really need the true like they literally get all of your health records, and they look at it. And they're like, yeah. You gotta pay a little more Justin Vernon Atlanta's rights in that. We're this is a broken system. It's a broken system. You are in a situation where guys like Bryce Harper at twenty six years old and Manny Machado at twenty six. I believe years old. I don't know what exact number. He is. But he's right around there where he should be getting a lot of money to be playing baseball right now. But is is the system broken though. Or have we discovered that what used to be considered somewhat commonplace or at least potentially commonplace with the ten year deals? Those are what actually broke the system. Can you may have been like the worst deal made? And breaking the in this in this tweet kind of tells on himself when he says twenty six to thirty six that's ten years yet ten years is too long of a deal. It's in anything the only sport that gets ten year deals, it's hockey. And even those don't really last that. I mean, look if you get married, and you go ten years, even if you get divorced after ten years that was a legit marriage. That's a long time to spend with anybody in that type of partnership. We'll get into double digits. That's real Mattel years is not what we're actually looking for most guys. Like if you look at the guys that are there's one hundred players that are not signed right now right draw. Power. Just got picked up by the giants for a minor league deal. A non guaranteed contract Gerardo. Perot is a is a legitimate. MLB player if you look Dallas kaikal Ervin Santana Jonzon Doug fister. Craig kimbrel is one of the best closers in the game. Marvin Gonzales or Marlins all his dare Dietrich Machado was stock its cargo Adam Jones, Bryce Harper. Hey, we get it. We get we get your point. However. I think it's a really good listen and makes the point which is simply once the top of the market get settled and the rest of the market will get settled. But also that owners are essentially saying, we don't need you. And if you wanna get like every day that we get closer to spring training is another day where the leverage goes back over to the to the teams because you assume that players wanna play, right? You assume that players want? It's like a whole it's like, a it's it's like a, you know, when when the NBA has lockout at some as soon as people start missing checks. That's when the lockout starts to end. Okay. When people start missing checks. They kind of don't fight for principals anymore. They're like, no, I need food. Also to the need to get paid with the principal to of because at the end of the day. We're really talking about Manny Machado and Bryce Harper. Yeah. Once they get settled, and you assume the rest of the market will fall into place. However, I would say just in Berlin is exactly right. The system is broken. The problem is is that it takes so long to get through the minor leagues where you're basically making nothing unless you were a first round pick with a signing bonus that no one's ever made any money until they know people don't really make money until they get to the majors. Then you get to the majors in seven years of indentured servitude. And those are some of the most productive years of your career where teams get you on the cheap. And they get some of the best years out without having to to make it up if possible on a long term deal on the back end where nobody's going to want to pay you right along unless you become a major league commodity really early on. So you can guess some of that stuff out of the way. Yeah. Eventually you're going to be looking to make it up in your mid to late thirties. And that's when nobody's gonna wanna pay you. So let's contrast that with let's contrast that with the stuff on from from basketball where okay you get in the league as a rookie. You get a pretty nice salary if you're high pick. But even even the even the rookie skill deal over a of a late first round pick, or whatever it is. It's not bad. It's like it's on par with the vet minimum. Okay. So it's not a bad deal. But you get into the league. And after your third year, you're eligible to sign an extension if you're really good, and they want to send you an extension after year three and after your four, you can become a restricted free agent. And after your five you can be unrestricted free agent a preacher. That's right. Okay. Baseball's like seven years, and you have these arbitration years, but it's not free agency. And it's not like I want to force a trade or I wanna leave or whatever it is the seven years as a whole the three year difference between baseball and basketball until you get paid in those three years oftentimes are the most productive years of a player's career and their years that franchises and teams would feel much more comfortable committing. Real dollars too. But right now the way you build teams is you get a lot of cost controlled players. So that's the word that the way they're always termed. You get cost control players who are young and cheap every industry. Does this you get young up and comers who are hungry and willing to work for peanuts to support the, you know, the old lazy people like Mason in Ireland. Yeah, I mean like Verleger is coming look how hard you and I are working superiors Mace. Where's he never always New York fake ation? Vic, there's Ireland. Where's Ireland just got back from vacation like Mason in l z all these guys do is take brief breaks from their vacation to do like three days a radio, and then they come back a little bit. And oh, every time Mason comes back and needs decompression done. That's right. Because remember who both have young children? You pay did the Super Bowl show with Mason. He lands at four AM. And he's like is you've got to carry me. I'm like I'm up to four AM every night. It's bloody. Mason has no idea what it means to me to be carried still dealing now. Of course, we love him. But but you know, what he can walk around and play that song. Like, I'm more thing. Mason island once you made it you made. I mean, he has put himself in position where he can be this type of diva in the Netherlands fort show in LA Mason in Ireland. It's like, Mike trout. That's true. Well, it's worth it. Except the part about being a diva we never heard my trout actually speed. You haven't heard of Mike now, I'm just kidding. All right coming up. The Lakers have been hemorrhaging points defensively. Like the last nine or ten games the numbers show. Lonzo ball is a big part of that. Yeah. Does context though mean it's all Lonzo to explain what I mean coming up next by smoking legal Ramona. This definitely sounds like something that you picked for the playlist. It's not something I pick. I don't even know who this is. But by smoking legal they're talking about legal marijuana. What I would not double down on this. If I were you. We could play it. There's not much upside for you and trying to like wrap it or even a dentist by, you know, saying it's so the Lakers are in Atlanta taken on the hawks the end of a six game road trip that trying to finish it up five hundred which would actually be pretty good finish for a difficult road trip. But one of the issues they're going to have to deal with is defense, which has been abysmal over the last few weeks in particular, it has been very bad in Lonzo ball's absence over the last nine games that Lonzo has been out defensive rating has fallen to Twenty-eight from the league. One nineteen point six thousand looked up some numbers in the Lakers are twenty fourth in opponent opponents points in the paint twenty-ninth and opponent fast break, they are thirtieth in believe points off turnovers. They have been oh his mole in every single defensive category. How much of that do you think actually is directly related? To lonzo. I think a lot of that actually Lonzo is one of their best defensive player that Josh Hart is probably their most reliable defensive player. And then lonzo's right up there with him. He's turned into a surprisingly good defender. And I think I actually remember Jesse bus telling me this when they were scouting him. And you know, I was sort of like what are they thinking about or when they drafted him. It was like what are the things that impressed. You about him. And everybody always used to talk about offensively. What impressed when impress them about Lonzo? Which was playmate ability that what he sees the game that we feel is the game the speed with which he plays with. But Jesse bus pointed out, he goes, social really long six foot six, and we think he can be a really good defender if he can learn defensive concepts and principles and buy in. That's exactly what it turned into. He's so much further ahead defensive curve than he had projected coming out of UCLA. Yeah. Like, nobody was talking about that his ability to recover. Yeah. When he gets beat maybe the best on this team. Yeah. I mean, maybe Ingram might be able to be a little better. Just because he's so damn long. But Lonzo that ability to make up for getting beat on an assignment helps this defense out so much, but the other part of it that doesn't get talked about as much, but it is a byproduct of as well is the return of Rondo in the return of now, I think that's as much part of it as the loss of Lonzo, which is simply LeBron can be a great defensive player when he wants to. But as he's coming back from an injury where he's already working himself back into shape, and he's been let's call it. Selective about when he when he really is going to dig in and play great defense. Rondo can be a great defender. But he's he's too much of a gambler. Yes. So he tries to make plays. He tries to gamble. And when he doesn't get it. It leaves them playing five on four or sometimes five on three depending on what LeBron's doing in that moment. And in you know, in the case of LeBron. He's not the first superstar start being selective on defense. At this stage of his great won't be the last, and you can even justify it in the sense that with the mileage that he has on his body and that he's. Coming off this groin tear. That was serious. You know, there are allowances you make for a guy like LeBron. But it still affects the defense. They're still an affect for this. What do the Lakers do in terms of? Okay. You've got these two guys that are in theory supposed to be the most experienced defenders that are in the rotation and also two of the guys that might be tone centers, or you know, might be might be guys that you would you would count on for some defensive responsibility. What do you do if you're if you're the Lakers and some of the other guys like coups MMA an Ingram who don't have that type of defensive clout? Yeah. That's a great point. I don't know. What you do? I wish I had an answer. I really I don't know if there's anything Luke Walton can say O'Brien shar, whoever else is going to deliver that message miles Simon or Jesse mommy's. I don't know that there's anything that they could say to get LeBron and Rondo to give the same type of consistent effort that they're going to ask for from the younger players. I don't know. I guess you could bench him. He want to try that good luck. With that luck. I mean, good luck. How fun you think? We're talking enough about Luke Walton job security now, wait until the actually I guess if you're a lewke might as well, try this true. I mean L say let's say what you need to say. Right. Let's let's quote, John Mayer say what you need to say. I mean, you go out. Well, I mean, if it if it does lead to going out, we'll go out your way, but it just the they're there at this very difficult point right now where you know, somebody like LeBron Carey's so much clout within this organization like Kobe used to be a difficult guy to get to tow the company line when you needed him to the differences when when the Kobe years really mattered you had enough support around him that you could get by when Kobe would be selective on of possessions. Or would be selective in the offense. Kobe went play when they needed to. Yes. Like when you got into the playoffs and shack was always famous for this. He would wait around. He was. Always finals MVP because he's the most dominant ever write a good check. How was that? You know, I'll give it a six the most dominant. No. That was moving downwards was bad. I don't know. Maybe you can try it dominant over house. Okay. That's pretty good. Let me but that was what shack did in the finals. Like, he just my time to shine pop your collar out. Okay. That that will shake Kobe would do the same thing when he really needed to lock somebody down on defense. He would do it. So I think only thing the Lakers, and Luke and his staff can do is just basically, hey, guys. It's time. Unfortunately, the problem is they're trying they need LeBron. And these other guys to lock in now to make sure that they make the playoffs. So then LeBron can turn around and turn it on like they actually need that moment to be now, and whether LeBron is willing or whether he's actually even capable I honestly think he's just trying to find his footing again after that injury. He's never had an entry that serious and he's trying to trust it again. I mean thirty four have setback. Here's the tough injury that he had and he missed a lot of games because of it. He's just now coming back. He's just trying to make it the all star break and get healthy. All right coming up Giordano's going to be joining us and have the Lakers been creative enough. In the way, they've gone about roster building talk about that coming up next ESPN LA. Yeah. Definitely talk about that one later. Not right now. Now's not the time. Yeah. Is friendships and relationships Twitter beef. It's a real thing Twitter. I mean, like your entire relationship with somebody can be based off a few interactions that you've had via Twitter think what it's like to actually share your Twitter account with somebody else. Oh, wow. Think about the relationships that could be destroyed if hypothetically you shared your Twitter, not just sliding into somebody's TM's, but inviting them into yours. Uh-huh. Yeah. They know funny and it came in at ski Ramona shelbert Jordan joined by George Sodano. I don't know if you've got saw yesterday, by the way, speaking of Twitter lane kiffin to shot yesterday. When did do tweet it out from his account. Happy birthday, Jennifer being Jennifer Aniston, come to hashtag the FAU, right? Yes. He did. That's classic middle aged men. No. It's totally like just trying to hit on some actress, let me tell you something I feel like lane, and I don't know this. Okay. I don't know this. I'm just recklessly speculate. But I feel like the best type of speculating in Boca Raton, Florida. Oh my gosh. It down. Okay, up like, he is, you know, Boca Raton. I well that did you see inside for me scene set from the like older old money? Okay. And sometimes in the case of older old money you have trust fund money than below that for maybe some of the younger aspects of the family. So I could see lane kind of dabbling in that kind of grouping. But now are you when you were saying like older money trust fund? Whatever are you picturing him dabbling on the lower end of the age scale or the upper end of the I guess is. Well, I mean, I'm sure you looked at it doesn't hurt to flirt with the. I'm just saying like, you know, there's a lot of a golden girls and stuff, but look even the younger end hang on. The one on his more of the ones in his age range. You know, they could be the trust fund babies. There's a lot of money in in Boca Raton, Florida. That's for sure. So tweet it out from the onion. This is. So funny piece come up yesterday. Lebron Lakers hoping horrible series of failed betrayals brings them closer. As team Berkman seems very trolley analogy was Bergman interested in the in the lane kiffin conversations. Like you pulled the mic over asking. You say are you saying that lane kiffin is cougar hunting a he might be? I mean, that's a that is a Cougars are not extinct in Boca Raton who is an extinct anywhere right here on the brink of extend. Let's be honest. I mean, I thought so the leaks extinct list don't ever nine possibly not in LA, not Cougars extinct the way, we unfortunately are awful as a society. We've turned fifty year old women Cougars. Yeah. I mean, it's terrible. They shouldn't be but we do that to them. So in this sense. Jennifer Aniston would be a Kook. So I'm just glad that there's a positive spin on being fifty as a woman now before that you would just old right? For that. You were like the life has passed you by I got I somehow I got into this. Jane fund a documentary that was on the delta flight the other day. I mean, it was like Sudha she got to like fifty people were just like, oh, you're you can't be with Robert Redford anymore. You know, it was like you're the older woman now like she'll still incredibly high Michelle Pfeiffer began Robert Redford. That's right. That's right. It was like Robert Redford gave up on her. And it was like, oh, hey, you're still old to Robbie. Joe slowdown Sundance. That's true that like Rachel Nichols. And I always joke like once we get to be fifty like, she's like, oh, I'm going to be a travel writer like they will be on TV anymore. Yeah. Rachel will. She's got great hair. She does have great weight hair. I mean, she has. I mean, we should rank best hair in the business. I Nichols is a one-seat. I'll sit. Like who else has great hair at ESPN? Great heritage Spion. Oh, Jesse Palmer has since evolved over also once. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. We're just Mason rank in there. Now. Would you rank higher though, Mason or Ireland Ireland come on on hair? I mean, Mason's hair better than I did you like the gray? I just I told him. I don't like you like you wanted him to go back to you should go back and tell you all the way better not it does not gain into it. He didn't know. That's what men tell themselves. A woman will tell you the truth. It looks better when you die your hair. Trust me. It does when there's some people who have a nice salt and pepper thing Clooney. Yeah. Clooney's got a nice salt everything that he's like, maybe Anderson Cooper, those are the only two guys that I can think every. Okay. But like, those are the only two guys that I can even think of where I would say it looks better that they're great. The Andy Cohen, maybe maybe. But after that, nobody I mean, your hair guys come on even someone like clue you wonder if there's a little bit of work going into getting off horse. Yeah. Getting a blend is amazing. It is really is. Yeah. And it hasn't changed because usually you don't stop like usually the salt takes over for the pepper. Yeah. Right. Like, he's just like stopped with the perfect blend. Yeah, I've noticed that. And I don't grow very much facial hair. But I do notice that I don't give her much on the hair. But I get it in the hair. I get it in the beer. Lena. Good hair. Meantime has great here. Mom is always. She tells me her mom is always like judging her. So that's why she on hair like longhair plays. Well, well on television. It does agree because it's really hard to do. Well, it's really hard to do as a style. So when you have long hair, and you can get. Get somebody who knows how to do the perfect wave and flip it not be too curly. And I it's great like an and our professional hair and makeup people. Do that. Really? Well, I don't know. What's happening right now. I was gonna say this filth. Very HR. Jack trying to stretch your jacket. I mean as mean as this is why the best. It's like the fact that I even get to do it every once in a while is just how he's actually got. She's not gonna be able to wear that ever. He's screaming. He's. Actually might hurt himself right now. He might he's a seventy five year whatever he's wearing like he got the arms on. But like menas jacket is so small she's very small. She's really small. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, if you don't know we're talking about my guess is it'll be on there on Twitter pretty soon on highly questionable. But it's worth watching. Yeah. And then they're podcast the laboratory in France podcast stupidity. Yeah. Heard you what it was. I where are you? I don't think so. Okay. Because they had unless they pull the clip of me or something I one they did eleven second. Hey, I'm not really getting paid to do this. I do this. And then the second one was forty eight minutes, but it was like thirty seven different people on it for line for like ninety seconds. And I maybe your name was on. They rattled off. So many people. I don't think they think I'm silly enough to do. I haven't been part of the Levitan in friends network. I did this show once and it was maybe way too seriously. We were talking about Paul sterling writing. I'm really impressive. They don't realize that you have gopher impressive. Well, they don't really. Nobody no you range either. When you first got here. They were like, oh, he's is. He funny. Remember maze? Took a minute for Mason realize. But I was I was doing their stuff for a long time. Yeah. I'm saying like, I I'm actually going to do their show on of course, while I'm going to do the show one day that I'm there because the show is fun. Yeah. But they I will tell them you have range how come in fairness to Ramon. It's really hard to bring out your alias comedic material discussing Donald sterling it really is. I mean like. Yeah. You know, they do it. They figure you can find it. But I mean, look their best recurring Donald sterling material takes a shot at Magic Johnson. Exactly Anderson Cooper, actually. But that was that was Donald providing his own community at it wasn't like lebatardshow coming up with the angle. Yeah. It was sterling writing the jokes for himself pretty much. The biggest question though is George one year on highly questionable. Are you gonna let poppy gets? You got me the one time. Right. But he's still the fact that the fact that he got me after I've known the man for twenty years is pretty stupid on my part to God's before too. I believe so I actually can be very gullible things like that. Like, I guess. We kept me all the time. He always gets meaning Michael Thompson loves the show so much. I've legitimately seen him watching it on his phone like before Laker games. I didn't know that Michael had a smartphone. Yes. He does. Yes. How do you think you watch his clay? Oh, that's by the way, microwave watches, everything leading up to Laker games. And during Laker games other than the actual Laker game. Again. Was paying a you notice? Yes. You do pre game with Michael just like there are times where you're just talking and you look over and Michael is so not listening. Right. What you're saying? Because he's watching clay play play basketball. Right. Like, he has not heard a word that you've said he fakes it, and it's good. He it's great. It's not convincing. But it's great fasttrack is next. Hey before we got here we were talking about fast track. And we were doing like real sports talk radio. 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Woj and Lowe '21 Trade Deadline Show

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Woj and Lowe '21 Trade Deadline Show

"The load pot is brought to you by goodyear celebrating march deal days with month. Long service and savings visit goodyear auto service dot com for offers. Everyone welcome to a special edition of the wash. Pod show are nba trade deadline. Show with zach lowe in me going through all of the big story lines leading into thursday's trade deadline at three pm. Eastern the future of kyle lowry in norman powell in toronto victor oil depot and the houston rockets and what some of the major contenders in the league may do as we get down to the final hours before the trade deadline and of course the buyout market players who may not be traded here before thursday's deadline are gonna be available after buyouts free agency. We hit out a lot and here we go with the wo- low nba trade deadline special. Welcome to the lose low. Nba trade deadline special. Zach lowe here with senior age warner ascii. We are twenty four hours in thirty minutes away from the nba trade deadline. Let's get right to it. All roads woge. I think lead through our friends from north of the border who are playing south of the border. And that's the toronto raptors twenty nine hundred champions currently playing in tampa bay. And let's start with maybe the only player that is even semi available who could swing the entire championship balance with one straight. And that's kyle lowry the raptors legendary point guard the greatest player and raptors franchise history. What are we hearing with. Twenty four hours to go about kyle lowry. Zach listen kyle. Lowry is very much available. Now and listen. There's a perfect storm going on in toronto with the losing streak. How far they have fallen back in the an eastern conference standings. Dan standings with kobe. Tissues injuries And the fact that obviously is in the final year of his deal philadelphia The miami heat There are a number of teams engaged as you yunos that the raptors beside jerry and bobbi webster their front office. They're going to work with kyle lowry and his agent mark bartlestein on where he might like the plight if they're going to do a deal. But here's one team to zach that don't rule out of this one between now and thursday trade deadline. The lakers woo. that's spicy. But look the lakers. If lebron anthony davis are out for longer than maybe expected out for fifteen or twenty games or whatever it is they are at real real risk of falling into the play in tournament in the western conference which is an incredible turn of events but the lakers and the brooklyn nets more or less are the focus of some of these other teams philadelphia miami who might consider themselves one piece away one little tweak away from competing with the biggest and the best teams philly has been the most obvious home for kyle lowry right. They have tyrus. Maxi danny green. They can trade pick miami. It'll be interesting to see what they can package with. Those are teams that have long been linked to kyle and are looking for upgrades but let's not forget the raptors playing out of his mind averaging twenty points a game now in the last year of his contract. Norman powell elaine. Drew can play both wing positions. Shoot three's contrive to the hoop and every team could really use a guy like that. The market for him is really wide. Right it's really big. And you know you imagine that whiteboard they have in the raptors facility and messiah jerry bobbi webster putting up all the deals in the offers they have. It is significant. And they're going to have an opportunity here in the next day to decide what is what is the kind of package they want is. Kicks is a young player nitpick but this is a player who could decline it. Will assuredly declined his player option deal. This year will become a free agent and as you said this has been really a breakout season for him. At twenty seven shooting forty three percent or so from three there are teams who would like to trade for him and then be able to have his bird rights in sign him moving forward with kyle lowry. It's a little different. There's some teams who see. He might just be a rental for them. Are they going to move forward with him. With norman powell who teams don't want trade for the rest of the season but then want to have the ability to sign him and keep them long term. Here's how good. Norman powell has been if you pulled twenty. Gm's right now instead. Who would you rather pay big money this summer. Norman powell or victor all the duke another big trade deadline name. If might be like ten ten. Or even twelve. Eight in favor of norman powell and this for the raptors. This isn't like a long-term multi-year tank necessarily they come back if they trade these guys with van bleed an ob siachen. It's sort of like a one year tampa tank. This is a lost season for us. Let us capitalize on it. Come back next year and reload. Let's move quickly now is. We're talking about teams. That are maybe one piece away the other big name this week late linked to some of these teams has been aaron gordon in orlando who reportedly requested a trade. We can talk about where that stands in a second. But he's been linked to boston denver. Some reporting minor yours is linked to portland. What are we hearing on. Ag what's the latest houston's another team. That's engaged orlando on aaron gordon but you mentioned that trade request that was made weeks ago Well i'm told in the last twenty four forty eight hours area. Gordon has had some second thoughts about that trade requests about whether he actually really wants to leave orlando but the magic their front office. They forged ahead and trying to find a deal for. Gordon mentioned boston and sometimes boston. We'll get into some of these. Trade talks and teams are never quite sure how serious they are about following through. But i think the sense is that boston is very serious. About trying to acquire gordon and i think for the magic here. This is a chance now to start taking a look at how they want to reshape this roster moving forward but whatever aaron gordon watch right now i know that orlando and their front office. They're going to do what's best for them. And that may very well being a taking the best package they can. That's one you can expect to go right up to that thursday deadline and then orlando taking their best offer and moving your and gordon. Yeah houston got very serious with orlando. I think that seems to have fallen apart. Denver is super interesting to me because they have some young guys and they can trade a pick and they have salary. Filler and gary harrison will barton in years. Aaron gordon's contract almost immediately. He fills that sort of jeremy grant. Twitter forward defence. I player that they lacked in that. They're gonna need to get through leonard. Were lebron james. The long term picture though is michael porter. Jr. is going to get a ton of money. Yoke and murray already do make a ton of money. Can denver really afford for big salaries. Minnesota's been in on aaron gordon. I think orlando would love to get their hands on jayjay mcdaniels in any kind of trade like that. What are you hearing about portland another team. That has done incredible work to hang in despite injuries and i could use one last infusion of talent to really really compete. What are you hearing about them. Yeah i think portland's ben very active and You know listen. They've used some picks and some trades here in the last several months. The robert covington deal with houston that they did. You know before the season. But this is a team in portland that as you said. It's they start to get their guys back and you look at some of those perimeter players out there. You know a norman powell even depot on a rental. I think those they have the assets and portland if they decide that they want to get involved especially with somebody in a rental situation you know. They've got some young players there but they also really like the young guys. They have in portland. One thing you've been able to see the blazers new through the years is draft well in the second round guys and then get those players better and another name to watch. I think is gary junior. Who's had an outstanding year and a half was crazy. Good in the bubble for the blazers. He's a restricted free agent. He would have a lot of value. His matching rights would have a lot of value. Any young guy and with that in mind. Let's take a break and when we come back we'll talk about some of the exciting young guys. Potential future building blocks who might be on the move in the next twenty four hours. The woods pot is brought to you by carmax experienced car shopping. 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Let's transition right into some exciting young guys who may be on the move this week and let's start right in new orleans where lonzo ball v lonzo ball has been one of the most talked about players in the nba for the last two months was super available then started hitting threes. It looked like a great long-term fit was dial williamson and maybe even brandon. Ingram is sort of a hybrid guard kind of created his own position. He's headed to restricted free agency. This summer expected to have some suitors. Maybe some big markets presenting new orleans right now and david griffin basketball operations chief with a big decision. What do we think is going to happen with mr ball. Well new orleans certainly has been open for business on lonzo ball one team they talked with atlanta. Think that's gone by the wayside. I the hawks for all intensive purposes are gonna stand pat. Think the one team the watch with lonzo ball the chicago bulls and they have a player in a similar situation. marketing who didn't sign his rookie extension in the offseason. Couldn't agree on a deal. Just like lonzo ball. Didn't in new orleans. And i think there's the framework of a way to get a deal. Done certainly chicago needs a point guard. they also have cap space and they could go out in signed ball to an offer sheet in the off season and so i think for david griffin in in new orleans. What kind of assets. They get back for ball. They still want to try to get into the playoffs. He has played well and they can deal with it in the off season. But i do think there's motivation on the part of both sides to see if there's a deal they can make here in the next day. That's almost a challenge. Trade your guy for my guy would wonder which side would demand picks in that situation even a second round. Pick maybe new orleans. I think lonzo a little better than marketing. This year marketing would be an interesting fit in new orleans. Can you build a good defense with zion williamson and markkanen at the four and five. It would seem unlikely that markkanen. Zion stephen adams who. They've committed a lot of money to can play together so that's a really interesting potential trade. Let's talk about atlanta. You just hinted that they might stand pat and their outgoing restricted free agent. John collins power forward center. Whatever you like has been one of the most talked about guys in the league. It seems like the hawks who've won added nine. It seems likely that they're gonna keep him to keep this playoff run going essentially again watch the john collins and you know they played really well under nate mcmillan. Since he's taken over as head coach she certainly you know the teams got healthier. But i think if they do anything atlanta again something more around the edges than with their core players there were discussions with john collins. You know with a number of teams but expect him to finish the year with the hawks. He's really good by the way and he and he only makes four million so it's hard to trade a player at that salary for another really good player. I i don't really get why. Atlanta would have been in a rush to get rid of john collins. He's a really good player. Let's go a couple of years up on the aids curve but to a guy who's only two years in one big injury removed from being a legit all nba player. And that's victor oladipo. Who went from indiana to houston as part of the james harden mega-trade. He's heading to unrestricted. Free agency has turned out more extensions that i can count at this point from multiple teams some of the teams. That have been rumored to be interested in victoria. Also have cap room this summer. And thus the ability to sign him outright without trading anything for him. What's the market like for him. You sent a very uneven. Last couple of years has looked great in houston. What sit the rockets realistically expect to get in return. Yeah it's it's a really fascinating case and you're right you know. He turned down an extension with the rockets two years. Forty five million. The most they can do during the season. He turned one down in indiana before he was traded. This is a player who got a lot of teams looking at him. Maybe as a rental and making some low ball offers the see if they can prime away houston believes that they've got Between now and thursday afternoon you know the ability to get back some real value for him whether that's a young player. Whether that's a combination of young player in pick my census. They might have a first round pick in that middle of the first round range but team like miami and we we know there has been a long mutual interest between victor all depot and the miami heat. They have the cap space to sign him if they decide. That's what that's what they wanna do the summer. So they've not been real aggressive aggressive at all with houston to to give up any assets right now. New york is another team. that has Certainly the cap space summer I don't sense the interest in a future partnership with all. The depot is significant with the knicks. I think the wait and see approach. You're talking about is absolutely the right move and that if houston ken get that kind of mid first round. Pick from anybody. That's a win. At this point for the rockets who made a really interesting decision by the way to choose. Effectively victory depot over cares. Ll avert as part of that james harden straight. So we'll see what they do next coming back. We will talk about bio guys. There's some big names on the market linked to some big contending team will get into it next. Don't just get in the zone. Stay there longer with five hour energy shots. It'll give you an energizing feeling of clarity alertness. Try the new five hour energy extra strength. 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Either of the los angeles seems to brooklyn nets. Really anybody would you. What should we expect. Where's he going to be playing in a couple of days. Yeah andre drummond he. He's gonna be the crown jewel of that buyout market by all appearances right now of both los angeles teams lakers clippers are expected to have great interest. The brooklyn nets supports. Like they're trying to gather up. Every you know every great player of former great player in the league in the buyout market and then the celtics and mavericks teams to watch with andre drummond. Listen is you know zach. A lot of these players. Don't want to take buyouts. They wanna get traded have the perception that there are minimum player because usually assign a minimum deal in the buyout market. But it looks like that's where andre drummond headed for. Cleveland can find a trade that we probably don't expect they will hear the next twenty four hours but certainly with the lakers. He'd move right in he'd be their starting center. I think the role would be most significant with that l. team. He'd looked great next to lebron rolling for dunks. And all of that in brooklyn. He'd give them another joel. Embiid antidote another big body to battle. Joel embiid nick claxton. Who's been sensational backing up. The entree jordan can't really do that isn't ready for that kind of physicality let's move to lamarcus aldridge. Who has agreed to part ways. Really with the spurs stretch five at this point his careers lost probably a half a step on defense but could probably still help a team in a limited role certainly has been coveted since the spurs thing happened where we hearing for him. I think miami is gonna be a front runner for lamarcus aldridge if you think. Back to aldridge's free agency when he left portland for san antonio he actually took a meeting with pat riley even though he really didn't have the cap space to sign him and riley did such a great job talking to him about team the importance of going somewhere in winning and being a part of something bigger than himself it actually pushed them all. You're told me to the spurs over the suns at that time and now they Potentially aldridge and pat riley are exposed to. We'll have a chance to finally get together. You mentioned the sons. That was his other two thousand fifteen free agency team. I think he'd fit great there. I think they need one more guy who can either play with dario saric or place of dario sars. If there's a matchup for some reason just one more rotating we'll get. We'll get to them later. Miami has a great chance again. But i still think lamarcus aldridge. I think he's going to have a lot of options when he gets out into the market. And i would expect to charlotte hornets also to be among the teams to at least reach out. He'd have an instant big role there. Let's transition go back to the pelicans. It's sort of shocking. That the jj redick era new orleans would come to a bio. It appears we're headed that way. And look you can never have enough shooting. You can never have enough wings. Yeah he's aging. Yeah he's not the greatest defensive player in the world but he can help. He's played on big stages he's playoff tested wards. Where do we think was rettig is gonna end up. Well we know where he keeps his off season home. Act you know. We know where he spends time. That's that's in brooklyn and certainly the nets will happen opportunity there. I think there's one team though If you're willing to jig graphically moved back out. West the utah jazz and he's infant snyder. The jazz coach certainly both do guys. They've had a long great relationship. And i know that. Jj's always had great respect for quin snyder But i think geography may play a big part of this and and brooklyn certainly has the ability to bring in a few i out guys here and continue To really put a roster together. That's going to have great depth in optionality in the postseason. jj still have a place in l. a. Because the romantic in me with love. Jj redick return to the clippers another team that sorta cycles through which guard is going to close games next to their big wings. Shooting shooting shooting. That's what everyone wants to romantic. Kinda wants that but it seems like brooklyn is the front runner and when we get back. We're going to have some fun. I am going to build some fake trades that i would like to see happen or that. I think makes sense war which is going to tell me that. I'm an idiot and a moron. All these traits are terrible but stay tuned for some fake trades that i think are excellent. Pretty good on the woods. Low trade deadline special trade time on the woods. Low trade deadline special. Let's start with the boston. Celtics the kings of the rumor mill. This was one of the traits. That i think made the most sense. It doesn't appear likely to happen. And that's harrison barnes going from sacramento into the boston celtics giant trade exception for aaron me smith. What's called top ten protected first and then a nice second round or totally unprotected second rounder. Let's get crazy harrison. Barnes would help the celtics and the kings get some nice return for guys got two years left on a big contract wise. It's not going to happen. Well listen. They are listening on harrison barnes with kings. But there's this idea that you actually have like a good player on a good contract. You know who's actually helped you win games. They want to get into the playoffs. Here in the near future in sacramento. I to me. I'm not moving harrison barnes unless someone blows me away. He's been a really efficient good player for the kings. You just can't be in a perpetual rebuild mode fair enough let's move on my vanity project. I want the phoenix suns to look at this as a championship window. That's open for them and make at least a small win now move. This is the first one. Ken ritual if you haven't heard of cambridge williams. He's playing great as a hybrid. Forward in oklahoma city flipped. Giovane carter and a couple of picks you get a big guy a wing whatever you wanna call them who can play with dario saric and backup units even spot. You submit it's on the wing daniel house same kind of deal and now we're getting crazy now. We're getting a little crazy. Paul teams might say no to this one honestly because jalen just got picked in the top ten and they're giving up another first. But larry nance junior again a big who would play with dario saric on bench. Units could close some games for them. Give them another body a really good playoff player. I think that would be a home. run for phoenix. Does this not getting enough their second in the west to win. Let's go for it. Price be damned so phoenix vanity project. Let's move on one more fig trade who do we have next we have miles earner indiana a lot of volatility in indiana. Let's trade miles turner to charlotte. Who badly needs a center. Cody zeller in one. Pick isn't doing it. Let's make the top ten protected pick and throw in. Pj washington so indiana decliners center position gets a really good power forward. Who has a lot of time left on his rookie contract and an ice pick charlotte rounds out roster with an ice pick and pop partner for the mellow ball. What do you think well. If lamelo ball hadn't been injured and fractured that wristed. Likely be out for the season Listen that's a deal that could really propelled charlotte Into know the when he went out. But i think with ball allowed. I think you may see charlotte retreatment. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) The NHL is closer to make a return!

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) The NHL is closer to make a return!

"All right so then back. We've they've got a format. We know that Major League Baseball is doing everything that they can get back. You just heard Pedro Right. They're saying that he firmly believes that. We're going to see the at least the start of a major league baseball season the NBA. They've got their plans place. We're still waiting for an official announcement for them and it looks like the PAC twelve key finally got on board with the SEC. In the big twelve. They're saying that as long as they get a thumbs up from local governments and the universities are long. They're student athletes to come back to campus that the PAC twelve can hold voluntary workouts as soon as June eighth that according to Larry Scott thank goodness because the idea of the pack twelve not plant while everyone else did there could not be greater statement to the fact that we don't care about college football here the way that other people do in other parts of the country. Yeah I never. I never felt like the PAC twelve wasn't play. I never done wasn't something that I ever even thought of. I mean I know I know that people saying well. That can't be the case because it was saying. Well it was. It was sad in a way that there wasn't quite used. Unless you blaming all somebody call extension one nine eight a great thing that they stepped out and said Hey. We're going to be ready to go here. We're going to align ourselves with the rest of because he was getting the PAC twelve conference for about a month. Get beat up by national media by other conferences By US everything honest every single every single day and so being able to step out and say well. That's not the case we're GONNA play football and we look forward to doing it. That that's a great thing in in an and they and they have to wait. You GotTa Kinda wait for the medical people to give you the green light anyway. I mean you could say whatever you want to say but everything is that there's a medical experts you can't play. You can't play what you going to do about it. Well look once and this is what happened yesterday support and this is why with Pedro dispension. I think is important once we get to the point where somebody is back whether that's hockey or basketball. Or whoever it is once we get a team sport back and I'm not talking about. Ufc that are kind of individual sports. And we've seen some golf stuff that's you know. Got Four or five people out there. Whatever but once one of these teams sports comes back. Everybody else is going to be right on their heels. Because there's no way that you can have a basketball season going on over here hockey season going on over here but no college football there. Once we get a green light in one spot. The dominoes are going to happen. Really really quickly. That's why I think it's so important and so exciting about what the NHL announced yesterday. I know there's still some hurdles to to get through and some announcements to be made as far as logistics and as far as formats of it. But the Dave put together a real plan. The I said. Here's what were the league. I should say the. Here's what we're GONNA do. This is the first domino that needs to fall. The next one is actually getting into facilities practicing spring training training camp. Whatever you WANNA call it that step two step three games and then we're off to the races. The funny thing is you mentioned basketball. What's going to happen with college basketball? Basketball's running up against college football and you know like what's going to happen with that. They would kids not possibly being back on campus. I mean they've got to think about so much Between now in the start of any season they've got plan. They can't just plan for once sport in college and not every other sport right they gotta do that same being in professional sports we can't prepare for the NBA to go on and Disney but not in less and not the Patriot said go to the Universal Studios and Disney in Orlando their frequent as summer vacation. Places they've gotta figure all those sorts of things out much like any anything. It's a hurry up and wait approach to this. I wonder when it comes to the conversation specifically about college. Campuses particularly the Big Five. The power five conferences. How much of the hesitation to have sports without students has to do with the notion or the idea that interest under? There's the fact that these are really professional athletes and we're just taking advantage of it. I hear what you're saying. You're not wrong but is this. This is the disconnect. I've had with this argument. Not you're specifically but just is there a group of people that in my thirty years or may twenty five years of covering sports that I have never met because this idea of people that think that college sports and talking about basketball and football in particular are somehow amateur? Does that Person Exist? We all know they're pros if it's just brazen like that'll be really change. Anything does it. We know that the guy's playing Alabama or not there because of the chemistry department there because of the football program at Ohio state at you. The they're not that these places don't have academics but did these football programs or for all intensive purposes minor league football programs to prepare these guys to go professional sports. They're not there to go to school there to play football. Well there's two existences you can exist in a state of numbness or you can feel as low as everyone stays numb with. This conversation. Didn't go on but if too many people start to feel it then you have to make changes so they have to hold onto this this idea. Even if we all know and we're just turned a blind eye to the system because we don't want to change things abruptly but if you start having student athletes on campus just to play sports and then leaving it becomes harder and harder to be in a state of Numbness. These arguments become more and more blatant. It becomes more difficult to argue in court. So if you can continue to pretend that you're trying to your point. Travis is you can pretend to contend to pretend as if the scores are intimately connected to academics invites up. Then perhaps there's an argument that can still be made for those who want to pretend but it just gets so hard to pretend if the on campus football players to play football on Saturdays and they they all leave is harder to continue to have the fake notion that is just an amateur sport. Well let me ask you this though this this on campus stuff. What's on campus? I 'cause I keep hearing on campus on capitol what's on campus because there's players that don't go on campus now and university that do everything online and they played a sport that have never that. Sit in the classroom. They take online courses I. They mean by on campus is the ability to go into the weight room to go to the training staff to go into the stadium to go meet with the coaches and the meeting rooms not necessarily in and and stepping foot in a classroom on the property but rather just being in with us you example being in Los Angeles going into us. Us's weight room. The meeting rooms the films that that's probably the definition of on campus. Well I don't see what is the problem we're willing to. We're willing to do it. Why that's such a problem is a problem because they're supposed to be students and if you're supposed to be students why are you? The only group of students allowed on campus grounds. What planes your student aptly? And you're doing you're performing your athletes Appear for forming your athlete duties. So you have to be on campus. Therefore they're paying for your education that that's the there you go right there. But here's the wiki. The the kid that's at sap on a theater. Scholarship is being asked to call out and perform theater in an empty stadium. Because you're on the theater. Scholarship the kid who had about scholarships but okay name what whatever whatever other sealed in so many heavy full ride in which a performance of some sorts involved if you're a cellist and you have a scholarship as a cellist you're not being asked to play the Empty Hall to keep your scholarship but if you're being asked that yes sir yes yes they know that so so so it becomes more and more diplomat program point is it becomes more and more difficult to hold these athletes up as a professional under the guise of they need to fulfill the duties of the scholarship. When you're not asking the other students who need to fill things that are scholarship to do the same things. It becomes more evident just professional players guys very quickly. I'm looking at the TV here. I'm looking at. Espn Adrian Watson around skis on and he reported the NBA return to play. Format is still up in the air and the thirty team. Resumption of the season in Orlando has lost some momentum. You wonder if the if the thirty team that's all of them coming back and starting the season as lost momentum. You wonder if they're not looking at that. Nhl Model and say a wonder if we try something like that. Maybe we don't bring them all back but instead of our usual sixteen we bring back sixteen. Plus like you've mentioned Portland is a team. That's just outside of the playoff picture. A New Orleans with Zion is a team. That's just outside of the playoff picture if they don't try one of those little tournament inside of a tournament formats like the. Nhl is going to get a shot to well. I can certainly see. The thirty teams will lose stain. Because if you try to house anyone in Disneyworld and all the people that are attached and the goal is put an end cap on the season. There's no reason to have a team. That's twenty games below five hundred involved. Why bring the extra bodies I bring the extra personnel? Why spend the extra resources if at the end of the day how they finish the season ultimate is not gonNA matter greatly in the history books that make sense to me? Just keep it to the sixteen teams if you want to do a tournament to determine if the bottom teams like the east has teams low five hundred and you want to have a tournament about seeding. Okay fine whatever you can do that. Because there's no reasonably in the Golden State Warriors. There's no reason to bring in these things that absolutely have no impact on the postseason. So I'd like to know of eliminating the thirty because it lowers the risk. The I I don't like I said I don't want I don't WanNa have if you didn't make the playoffs if you would make the playoffs you not in it. When the season concluded they need to trying to shove teams? Then just a shovel me. This makes no sense at all. But here's the RUB guys like. I let us Portland is the example here right. Portland is three and a half games out of a playoff spot. They're chasing. They played Memphis two more times. Okay so this is. They've got a game against the Golden State Warriors towards the end of the year that you would figure as a game that could put into their back pocket as a win. So I if you're going to bring them all back he was sent. Nobody know we all know that the Minnesota Timberwolves and the warriors not going to the playoffs. But that doesn't mean that these other teams may have completed their series against them. Maybe that's why net this is in the position that they're in whereas Portland still has a couple of games left to play against those bad teams. That's a disadvantage for a team. Like Portland I understand. Why guys on the warriors wouldn't WanNa come but I also understand. Why guys like Damian? Lillard said look at it. I don't WanNa come back unless I got a chance to certain winsome games and get back into this playoff picture. I get I get that you have to want. Let me start over again. You don't want teams. That are terrible in there but they play a role in this league. You can't just say okay the the where your suck everybody go home. But the the the blazers have to still sitting here and play some games because they're close but they don't get the clean and the bad teams it's a disadvantage it is a disadvantage. There's no I don't WANNA see bad teams man I don't want to. They got two games against MINNESOTA TO AGAINST MEMPHIS ONE AGAINST GOLDEN STATE. Those are all teams that they're chasing or that are terrible. That's a that's an advantage that that's an opportunity. You should have took care of advantage of the situation in play better at the time. Which you on the floor and I'll come to me late but I'm gonNA come on man. This is a totally totally unforeseen circumstance. And the thing is is when it comes to Portland when it comes to New Orleans. These two teams had is who out Zion was out day was extended periods of time. So this is the reason why they're in the position after their best players weren't available for long stretches during the season and then the bag from we'd have to worry about that you took care of business like the Laker. You would have to worry about. But it's the didn't get a chance to play. Those teams the Lakers added. Missus this is why trying to figure out how to come. Back is a little complicated as opposed to one thing to get the thumbs up another thing to figure out how to do it. I want to see Mike Tyson fight but I do not WanNa see Mike Tyson. Fight this guy that's coming back on the morning show at seven ten ESPN. I'm afraid to ask because I have a feeling I know how it's gone. Draws you of breaking news on the pole? That's right Travis. Pull it is a final. It is a final now. L. Z has one yet again but in developing time. He's six actually in developing news. Travis you did not come in last for the first time Jeremy No. That's not true not coming last every time. That's not generally but I have not come in last well. Keyshawn came in last I mean 'cause I guess he forgot it was actually war movies and you picked a couple of things but other than that drivers you did not come in last place that there's hope for you yet. Perhaps tomorrow which we will do a Promo WanNa teach for later on. We have another still sitting at two. He's still sitting at only two victories building momentum key building momentum else wease different distance yell these creating some distance with six victories key. You're still stuck at four. And of course. Travis with to have a chance to redeem yourselves. Tomorrow we will do another snake draft pick a you said it yesterday that you liked my picks and so I i. I understand that I'm being that I'm in the Doghouse for what it is but I. I think it's pretty evident that might picks were the best ones but I'm still being punished for something that I didn't do no weren't I said I liked your picks that they were the best us. No no no no because listen first of all if WANNA get right down to it. Born in the fourth of July was after the war know the beginning porn. Movies the war Tom Cruise fighting in Vietnam. That's where he got. Hit our parallel. That's just ridiculous. Some footage of that. Yes I don't remember I but but what else he's doing real quick before we move onto the Tyson Hosea capitalizing on your generally. Pick every single thing he does who puts an glory or he puts in some type of blaxploitation has basically related to the topic. So Travis did on your member Travis did. I don't that you guys need remember now. I have now won this thing from heaven the I I've one having the second. Pick and one coming in third like. I did yesterday with the third pick. You can go that you are saying that we do realize communicate with John a sidebar sending her pictures and you really doing it had no communication with Janice all. He hasn't just getting it done. Based off of punishment of Travis John so we might be key is actually. Watch the movies before you pick him. Mike Tyson is getting ready to fight again he they got a whole bunch of opponents that they're considering the heavyweight champion of the world the wbz Champ Tyson theory says that he got a phone call quote. I had a phone call saying. Would you like to fight Mike Tyson? In an exhibition flight. I said Hell. Yeah but I don't think anything's materialized out of it. I am here to watch Mike Fight. I want to relive the great memories of Mike. I WanNa Watch the twenty four seven leading up to Mike all those things. What I do not WanNa see. Is Mike Tyson? Get in the ring with the heavyweight champion of the world and get dropped like he would if he went in with my with Tyson theory. Go and fight a tow truck driver or a muffler salesman or whatever it is that you want to do not get in there with a real guy in the prime of his life. That's a terrible idea. You're might be a bad deal. But if he did by who every five? I'm all for it. I'M GONNA sign up for it. There's no question about it but I don't WanNa see I might get destroyed right out the gate. I want to build up to and I wanNA see you him. Get a few tomato cans on a van. The Muffler Guy. I WANNA see. Fight the postman. I wanted to see him. Do those sorts of Gimme about four or five. Before we start moving up into that better competition you know let that that that makes more thin creeping baby pre thinks. He's sixty three guys. George Foreman was in his late thirties when he started his comeback. Tyson is fifty three years old. I want to watch him fight against guys that I know he can. Beat or at least has a very very good chance of beaten. I don't need this to be the beginning of a comeback. I don't need this to be the first fight in a series of fight to reclaim the heavyweight championship of the world. Because that's not happening. He's a fifty three year. Old Man that you're GonNa have to just make this interesting for reasons other than this is a return to the ring to win the belt again. That's never going to happen. No it's not about the belt. It's the bug charity about you. Know the curiosity of vision back the rain but I would argue over and over again that. There's nothing compelling about seeing Mike. Tyson beat a suitcase. That has no business being the ring with anybody. This is an interesting. And that's why could watch Michael Jordan? Play one on one against some guy who's like a wreck player. I could YMCA. Now Michael Jordan plays Reggie Miller one on one. That might be interesting to you telling me that you WANNA see might be used to be guys down by just looking at them. Go and fight the guy. That's working at a Midas and then we're supposed give me a contemporary. He doesn't even have to be a champion champion. Let me ask you this though to us your kind of your your structure of this. Would you want to see Michael Jordan? Play one on one. Gets the guy like Lonzo Ball for instance an active NBA player? Who's not the best player in the League? But he's got some game. He's got some skills you wouldn't want to see that but that's different. Lonzo ball has a name. He's not a guy working at the muffler shop. He's got a name so that's what I'm saying doesn't have to be a former champion. Just somebody of note that makes it worthwhile. No I don't WANNA see. I don't see jointly against Lonzo Ball to work. Lonzo ball killer but see. This is what I'm talking to hold on a second set you up. That's back around bobby saying Travel Zoya von so ball is an active India player and we could go around and around on how good of a player. But he's holding his own in the and we're saying that Michael would kill him in a game of one on one so this idea of older guys coming back into these things. I know we talked about Mike. I know that we've talked about very bonds getting back into major league that that was my right. That's what I'm saying that point about J. Ill they can take. But you're tell me. Oh because one one. It's not a GAME FORMAT. We're yeah there's no lives there you say one of one and a half course. He doesn't have to run up and down the court he doesn't have the guard anybody necessarily after three or chase or anything like that but yeah when it comes to. Mike Tyson by arguments very consistent using simple Lonzo ball we all know who the hell Lonzo ball is. I'm that I don't WANNA see soup. Cana guy not a miters or or to fight. Mike Tyson doesn't have to be a former champion but just ones that we know. What if it's current heavyweight fighter though the comparison of Lonzo ball and I can't tell you who the boxing the heavyweight boxing equivalent of. Lonzo ball is but if you found a rank and file professional fighter you WANNA see that guy in there with Mike is i. Don't WanNa see that that guy will take Mike apart which is what makes Jordan so compelling that we think that Mike Mike or I should say Jordan would be able to a little bit. I think Barry Bonds would be able to hang a little bit but ours. You guys that even at that age if you put in in against contemporary guys now guys. That are playing now they could still hold. Mike could not fight a twenty five year old professional heavyweight killed but the difference. Travelers in the examples is that you talk about D. H. E. or half court one one. You're taking a lot of the advantages. The younger player. Have you taken out the the space? You're limited to help benefit or make the fact that the older player has law Smith lettuces them. You can't do that right now with boxing. You can't eliminate the space. Maybe you could say you the size of the ring. Maybe that'll work in by Tyson's flavor but just straight up in terms of simple wherever you current contemporary versus Mike Tyson. With all the same rules. I don't necessarily see it as something to be entertained. The exempt you guys use by plan half court. Well guess what now. You're saying he doesn't have to come up pick now you're saying he doesn't have to guard somebody for for ninety. You're making it easier for bike that I could see sense. Stacey look very fun. He's not playing defense. Have to run the basis or you have to do is one. Yeah that makes sense to me. Michael Jordan's fifty seven years old key. Michael Jordan give him. How long would it take? How long would it take Michael Jordan? Get in shape. It's fifty seven then with the smoking. The plane going to put down his all Tequila. That's the start running right which he didn't see any super interested in or I probably would think man taken nine months. Okay so let's round it off. Let's say it's a year he comes back it's fifty eight he couldn't hang in the NBA at fifty eight. What are one sure but running up and down the court nearly not a chance. Yeah he would he be able to get into two eight six six talking about an entire game. You make it sound like we're talking about an entire game and that's not what we're saying or nephew. Which often because that's not what I'm thinking. How could be Caruso? Could he play Alex? Hello I'll give you fifteen minutes again. Yeah Price I'm looking at upright and occasionally I probably would say I would probably say he can give you fifteen minutes because he give it to you for three minutes year. Four minutes that. Give it to you spurt so I would think that. Mj could do that got shape. He's young he's well let's see here. He's averaging about seventeen and a half minutes a game. Yeah that's a little long. We couldn't minutes now. We don't cut admitted down. We don't cut him to like fifteen minutes. I look we order of all the things we've talked about in this segment. I think the biggest takeaway is that we're all convinced that a sixty year old Michael Jordan would tear up Lonzo Ball and one that tells you all you need to know about Lonzo right. People people like Jordan people like Jordan is is is good and he's still around the sport. You can't possibly tell me that. He hasn't been running with his team from time to time. And the practice I know we had a no he's been doing scuffing practice with those dudes. It's also the on green expected. He will draymond. Green is likely outta verge of a hall of fame career but he got teammates. You see what that is. Lonzo is a pretty good player on a team but one one you can see here. How does an eighty percent take us out? Because that's one of the proposals that the major league baseball players are sitting to the players. We'll do that next on the morning. Show on seven ten. Espn it's your home speaking. And I need you to do me a couple of favors. I could you get that blueberry that rolled under fridge last week it's throwing my functions way off second thing. Bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy and we could save money. Lastly I know you're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white. But I'm actually feeling this baby. Blue didn't think it was my color but I m pulling it off GEICO for bundling easy go to geico dot com today so a lot of people are being asked to take a pay cut through all of this thing because revenues are down across the board and people are not spending money the way that they did so no matter what you do. There's a chance that somebody's come to you and said. Hey we're going to have to cut you a little bit baseball and this is classically baseball right here. The players I should say the owners have submitted a proposal to the players union. That is going to have a scaled pay structure basically the more you make the bigger you get all the way up to. If you make more than twenty million dollars they wanna cut you eighty percent of the way and look here. Here's where the players are in a really tough spot guys. That is a ridiculous proposition for somebody to ask you to take an eighty percent pay-cut even if you're making thirty seven million dollars like my trout say eighty percent of that you want to take back. No the differences though the last thing baseball could afford is to have the NHL holding their playoffs to have the NBA holding their playoffs. They have the NFL ready to launch their season on time with their regular guys and they're standing over on the side arguing about money. I understand. It's a crazy ask. And it's the beginning of negotiation. But they're trying to paint the players into a corner where they're going to have to take something they don't want just because they know how bad it look if they say no here. But that's that's that's not cool by him to try and do that but coming at a plan after the player take an eighty percent pace dickey. It makes absolutely no sense because the owners on taking pay cuts that the box office that the fans aren't coming in the gate receipts aren't there. I GET ALL IT. But you still receiving television revenue. You're still receiving revenue from other places. That has something to do with Major League Baseball. If you come to me and you give me a number thirty five percent you know twenty twenty five thirty thirty five thirty seven percent. Let's have a conversation. Let's talk well you come in and you talk about eighty percent. Well you negotiated deal with me in the beginning. Not only did you negotiate this deal with me in the beginning of all of this you also negotiated when we close that. We were going to be paid based on plate. Now you coming back at the end of the day in trying to change it again okay. It Ain't my fault that I'm the top player. One of the top players and Major League baseball in my salary warrants who I am. That's just the bottom line but you now decide that you that you want to get eighty percent of it back to do what we we don't put in your pocket you go you. What are you pay all the stadium workers in concessions? That's not working with that money. And what are you doing? And I talked about this with John Ireland when he was on and the more I think about it the more I still this way and that is it. Looks like an attempt to Rob Peter to play play Paul because many of these owners regardless of sports but let's focus in on baseball. The team is not their major source of revenue. They have other companies these much larger companies that have been impacted negatively by the pandemic in the country. Being shut down at. Perhaps they're trying to take money from one source so they can sure up another source and while I understand doing that because as a poor person growing up I know what it means. Rob Peter to pay Paul as a business owner. That's unconscionable you can't do that that is just wrong yes look I. There's right and wrong and and I hear what you're saying nosy and then there's what does it look like in key. Let let's go back a little bit. When the first payments the loans that were given a small businesses went out some really big companies got some of those loans including some NBA teams of some Burger chains that are multi billion dollar companies shake shack out of big loan and they had to give it back because it looked like you know what it just. It was a terrible terrible. Look that we can talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul we can talk about. Where does the eighty percent that you're taken out of my salary? I understand these are really fair points. I'd get but let's be honest. The idea of a guy that wants to watch. His baseball team wants to sit and watch. The dodgers play wants to watch the Yankees or the angels of the padres. Or whatever team you root for. And they're the only sport that's not going because you can't come to an agreement money. They may have a great point. As to how unfair the proposition is but what it looks like. It's GonNa look like these rich guys. What their money more than they want to go play the game and in this environment the way that it's set up right now there can't be that look because baseball survived a of crap over the years a strike a drug scandal that the dirt the sports but while everyone else is desperately trying to find a way to get back on the field if they're saying no that's too big of a haircut. I'm not GONNA do it. It is terrible terrible. Look whether they have a good point or not. Eighty percent fell dot keet. Nobody's GONNA listen to that. One hundred percent eighty. Ab Yes because he's looking to think what's GonNa say people would think people would understand eighty. No I've been they were. Here's why here's why what they're going to say is yet eighty percent of thirty eight million. You're still making six billion dollars. I'm making sixteen bucks an hour. I'm going to get a victim from my apartment. I'm going to get foreclosed on my house and yet you you lost eighty percent you still making six billion dollars. Guy. You can't go to work for that. I just want to come home and watch you play for three hours a night so I can get the fact that the bill collectors are calling me every ten minutes. You can't get it figured out. That's the story. That's what it's going to say. This is not a good look and as I said before anytime you have millionaires and villiers squabbling over money. No matter how big or small is never going to be a good luck but it certainly isn't a good look right now with a great depression era level of unemployment. But if I'm in charge of Major League Baseball's I'm finding another way of making this argument. Even though the main impetus is the money. Because I'm not GonNa let you get away with that. That's ridiculous that's too high of a percentage. Maybe it's just when it was floated out there to see what the litmus test will feel like but at the end of the day I think a lot of people will understand keys point that when they look at the raw numbers proposed trout over thirty seven million but under the new rules. It will be about five. I think when people see that they'll ask themselves okay. Billionaire owner using this extra thirty five million four they if they had a real number travis and they said we don't cut you down to. I don't know give me a number twenty million and they do that then I think people would be like many do is selfishness. But when you trying to take you basically ellen and it's not working for free I get it making five change and we only use them as an example. But when you tell somebody that what are you. Are you only making five now? An older older get by. I Ki- like I said you're right in your math is right and your point is a good one. They this stuff never lands on the owners ever. The players are always the one that take the brunt of the PR hit with without exception. We'll talk more about it and cross talk with Giordano. That's coming up next all right George before we get into whatever else we're going to get into. I want you to hear this. This is Kendrick Perkins. Who was talking on? I ache yesterday talking about the last dance and what he called was a show full of lies. Here's Gingrich Perkins from yesterday. They had a problem with. Is there? Thomas Competitive Nature? He's was the ultimate competitor. That's the only way I see them. Keeping them off the Dream Team now saying that they didn't WanNa play with him now. Here's my thing. The last documentary was the best sports documentary. That I oversaw but it was one thing I took away from it was full is Smidgen and and when we came when we look at Michael Jordan and I'm glad he's not my goat. The Brian James Mark go go he through whatever the Buzzer. The ended the day the last the last dance was to make a MJ. Look like a superhero and make everybody else. Look like if you go down the line Scottie. Pippen this dove Horace. Grant's though as Thomas and then go across wasn't even hill to defend yourself but there go. The last dance was full of lies. Your reaction it kind of reminds me of what? I don't know if you guys saw the Lance Armstrong won but he told the director at one point Maria. I'm GonNa Tell You my truth. It doesn't mean that other people don't believe what they're saying and it may not be factually accurate. I'm just going to tell you my version of it and I think that's what it is. Is that people remember it their way especially when you talk about all that time passing so look. I don't think perk is wrong but I will say this I will say this you know. I think it's more damning and it's something we can talk about because Chuck Daly longer around. I feel like it's more damning that his own coach wouldn't allow Isaiah team either. I think that's something that we can't unfortunately explore but that's a big part of this too but did it coach not allow him. Coach have any influence or any thing to do with the selection because it was a committee from what I understand it wasn't it had nothing to do with the coaches picking the players on the linear will under to us. When he was on there right he he said that chuck didn't want him either when ripe play with Isaiah he said well. That's far broad then responded. Yeah not a problem. Chuck doesn't want either right so I think that no but I thought he was fant. Chuck Barkley no no Chuck Daly Okay. Yeah he He looked and he could have lobbied for him clearly. So I think that there's an look man David Robinson said this recently to okay where he said you know. Isaiah you want to be the bad boys well. These are the ramifications guys. Don't want to necessarily play with you. And David didn't shy away from saying that he wasn't all that interested in playing with him either. And if David Robinson was like one of the nicest people you'll ever meet will put himself out on a limb like that. I guess is probably nobody on. That team are very few people on that team. Actually wanted Isaiah on the actual squad I loop short and it's coming back though to play Did you hear that I is coming back to play here? Yeah come back to play getting into shape in each. How come he came because Vince? Carter's forty not sixty like Michael Jordan. The Jacob do it if you get into shape. He could go down. No no you don't think if you the minute that Vince Carter give no no. Oh Yeah I disagree. No no agree. George hasn't been doing this. The entire show key does the thing like he challenged. Apparently he challenged his Charlotte Hornets his roster to play one on one and miles bridges. Who's a young man? He's only been the league now. Two years was like let's go. Let's get it and it would be embarrassing for Michael Jordan to lose to someone like that and that's what would happen like physically he just at. There's a re at fifty something years old like it's like I didn't say I didn't say it whole game. We all be talking to many the parameters that we put on George. We're talking about could see phil what is basically the Alex Caruso role on these Lakers about fifteen minutes. A game and keep believes that he could do that. He's fifty seven years old. No no no no absolutely not but Mike Tyson in the ring if fifty three no but my Tyson can't get in the ring with like a legit heavyweight right now like he could last like a rounder to. Maybe you know what I'm saying like that's it so so but we all agree that we US three agreed that we believe that Michael Jordan Cook Lonzo Ball right now in the one at work but this out go but what is different because you could shoot from the outside. You know what I'm saying like if you if you're shot is falling you can win one on one. I'd give him a shot to beat a number of guys on one but in an actual game scenario where there's multiple guys that can guard. You know chance so we also kicked this around Jewish the idea of berry bonds. Who is in his early fifties trying to get back into the major leagues. Could he hit two hundred in the Big Leagues Right now? He had to twenty two hundred or two twenty. Sure you're talking about a guy who you know three fifty three sixty points in his career. I do think that that's more doable. Because if he's just getting four at bats and he doesn't have to play the outfield plays for D. H. Could he hit two hundred? Twenty sure would hit twenty. Something home runs too but I don't. I don't equate that to. That's not an apples and apples apples to apples comparison to play basketball. We have to run up and down the floor and four feet any other old guys to see resurrect their careers. I mean I like the Tyson thing like I think that Tyson in an exhibition situation would be fine. I'd watch it for sure. I just don't think that it would be more than just that. I haven't really put a lot of thought into this to be honest with you but if I had to think of an old guy you know what i WanNa see an old guy. Resurrect is careers. Tom Brady George Clever L. of chance to tell me what nothing he was sitting next to him but he was scared to do shared C. I'd be smart. He's a pretty smart guy. I don't know what can't talk about. This show is next. We'll see tomorrow morning. Six o'clock in the morning show ten to yet.

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01/08/2021 - Best of The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

45:00 min | 5 months ago

01/08/2021 - Best of The Odd Couple

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I'm jay conrad doing me for my new podcast. Q clearance the series that aims to cover the true traders of cunanan. Listen to q. Clearance on the iheartradio app. Put wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks for listening to the best of the odd couple podcasts. Be sure to catch us. Live every weekday from seven pm. Ten pm eastern four to seven pacific on fox sports radio. Find your local station for the odd couple at fox sports radio dot com or stream. It live every day on the iheartradio app by searching f. As you're listening to the best of the odd coupled with chris russo parker all right. Let's get into a rob cleveland browns. Obviously we know facing the pittsburgh steelers. And i'm gonna be interested to hear your pick because you've been dropping hints that you might pick the browns. I think you just want to stick with your anti steelers narrative but i look they. It's tough enough. Did you can overstate how tough it is to go into your first playoff game. Eighteen years with the quarterback in his first playoff game still young still learning. And your with out your head coach. Due to covid we know. Rob the nfl is not the nba. Not major league baseball. The head coach has more of an impact than any other sport. Any of the major sports. I think this is used but then on top of that. They haven't been able to practice. They had their first practice this week this afternoon this afternoon. They they are. I mean the odds are so stacked against them and beyond all that. They're all pro right. Tackle jack conklin. He missed today's practice now. He's questionable for the also. Aren't they missing their left tackle. They're lifted yeah he's he was. He's a pro baller joel baton you. He's not he's out for good for sure. Myles garrett is questionable. i think you'll play. It's the fanciest eddie thinks play but he's questionable sheldon. Richardson questionable. Like rob if you pick them. You got guts. But i i want the win. I'll be pulling for him. But i just don't. I don't see it happening. I don't see it happening. i saw. There's too many things stacked up against i just. I thought that there could be of all things. Were equal out of. Felt a lot better about the browns. You know i've been down on the steelers all year. I thought the browns would have had a chance to beat them so they could practice this year or this week. I'm saying are you saying if they asked the fans or even if you had everything in place if they had everything in place they would have had a chance to beat them. I really i really do because the steelers have been you notice over. The last i noticed came back. Chris against the colts in the second half. But there's been a lot more bad steelers football and good right over the last six weeks. Yeah i probably all things being equal. I probably still would have picked pittsburgh. But i agree. I wouldn't have been surprised at all if the browns with the beat him. They had a really good chance now. I would be stunned if they'd be i. Hopefully i'm pleasantly stunned. But i would be stunned if the browns beetle. So we'll see. I mean hopefully. It's a good game. You hate to see a game ruined what what should be a competitive game ruined because of covid but hopefully that's not the case but but rob. There's a little drama brewing. I mean this is a rivalry for all rivalries more so pittsburgh. Of course they look at. The browns is just the little brother that can't you know what i mean. I mean they just beat up on the browns. There's no comparison between the is the successes and all that the great players but they are about two hours apart two two and a half hours apart. That's as close as you can get rivalry with albanian. Chris basically the same state. That's right exactly. It's a big time and similar types of cities in the mid west time. Hardworking collar towns. Nothing flashing cleveland or pittsburgh. I've been many times right. So it is a rivalry already. But juju smith schuster and we're gonna get into him running his mouth but he said something. The date i think. Rob and i. I want to hear your view to me. It's around like the tale of two comments remember. We talked yesterday about chase young the rookie in washington talking about i time break. I had no problem with that. I think it was respectful. I don't think he was disrespectful at all. I thought he was like l. excited about playing playing against brady. Who you even look at it as respectful. Who who we grew up. I mean ryan how long how old is chase. Sean chris twenty one twenty two. Why you see some real entire asleep right right now. I'm playing against this guys to watch on sundays when i was a teenager. Come on man. That's a big thing and he can get to the quarterback so i just a natural what he's saying. Yeah no problem where he said but juju. I got a little issue with this. But here he is. You feel like this. Browns team is has a different vibe. More successful vibe than what you've seen in the past from them now the bouncing up every year nameless faceless couple of players on their team but the browns the browns. And that's just like one of those days that as north football team but i'm just how Replanted again sunday you can. You can take your first route. They're just a nameless. What did he say. I mean he i will give him this. That's a statement that tomlin uses nameless faceless opponent. 'cause thomas hold approaches. Look it's about us right know. It doesn't matter if we play. Michael jordan or lonzo ball. It's about us so let we do. I mean yeah the steelers won. How many games chris. Twelve twelve and the brown won eleven. Yes really right and anyone who won. I mean rothenberg. Obviously they're saying but it was one one. Yeah like like. I would have loved to have heard like dude. You know like this is a real rivalry. This is one of those games. They've come up big time. This year they won eleven game. we won twelve. We split out two regular season games. This is gonna be a dogfight. I expect the browns. I don't care what's going on kobe. Coach whatever a division rival in the playoffs. I thought he was way to flip. I'm with you. And and my thing is i liked juju. We interviewed juju at the super bowl. I don't know if it was last year two years ago but two years as nice enough guy i kind kinda think jus drawn a little too much attention to himself beyond this is kind of been a mediocre receiver since antonio brown left town. You know like you said the dancing on people's logos. That's not going to be taking disrespectfully right. And too big of a deal it but still. It's just unnecessary right. Especially where your team at that point. Chris was struggling. You know things weren't going great and then you gotta go back. And then the coach. Your teammates have to answer for you. What does he drying out there. Right it's a distraction for your teammates. That's unnecessary yes. And now this. Here's the thing and you know. Antonio brown had an issue with this in two thousand eighteen. Ju was voted the offensive. Mvp of the steelers and antonio brown was like yo. He's only getting off. Because i'm drawn on the double teams. I'm drawing the best defender every week. And juju solid but we hear a little too much about juju for god. It's average eight yards a catch this year. S that's that's horrible for receiver. That's a running back number. In fact alvin kamara average more yards per. Catch nine than jude. He's i eight point six or something. Juju i mean come on. I know he had a lot of almost one hundred catches but still eight yard. Catch eight nine yards. come on. Didn't he only have chris the one one hundred your game. Check that out lee online gaming. He was third on the steelers in yards receiving yards. You got claypool. Who's been a really really nice fine for them chase claypool and there was one more steelers receiver. That was ahead of him. So i don't know what i'm wrong. He he didn't. I thought he had needing one hundred against a call. He has not had one one hundred yard receiving what about lash since antonio brown no. I know that he didn't have last year. Nope this she. I go thought he had it. I thought he had it against the colts. Because you remember it came back in the second half but i'm looking at the stats now chrissy. He had nine catches thirteen targets. Ninety six yards and the average ten point seven per catch looks like he did well. They did have one last year did he. Here's miami at two hundred and three yards eight. Yeah so one. One one hundred yard receiving game. Since i've been gone yet all right good so again we liked juju but we're here too much about him. Am i wrong. Putting up those types of numbers you gotta be the talk this way to dance on logos. You've gotta be doing a little more than it's now look business wise. Could it be smart. You know we talk more about juju than any other receiver averaging eight and a half yards a catch. Twenty six in the league you go. He's known you know maybe after he's done playing out people want him on tv. And all that. But i'm just saying look focus a little more on your crafts. Get better and as you said it showed. Her browns a little respect in the playoffs. Anything careful because you never be sure to catch. Live editions of the odd couple with chris. Broussard and rob parker weekdays at seven pm eastern four. Pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app whether you're a resolution person or not it doesn't matter miller lite with great taste than just ninety. Six calories will be there to help you enjoy some much-needed miller time whether you're meeting new goals are just making it to the weekend. Twenty twenty didn't set the bar too high for what counts is improvement. 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The problem with that is that you don't have a choice if you're going to get sick or not and maybe you won't get sick but you don't have a choice as to who you'll in fact and we don't have a choice if they'll die or their live. That's fianna tulip agreeing daughter. Who lost her mother to covid. Nineteen fianna wants to make sure her mother a latina. Frontline worker from texas is more than just a number scrolling on the news feed. We've got to think about the people who are working and risking their lives to save our lives and we have to remember that. We don't have a choice into how this virus ax. we can't choose whether infects also infect someone else and we can't shoes if we stay alive or we die. I'm justin beck founder and ceo of contact world. Listen to contact world the podcast on the iheartradio app. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of fun we are going to have fun. We're going to celebrate the life of tommy lasorda. Not mourn. His death daddy was ninety three. We all gonna die. So if i can live to be ninety three and have a full life like that. Then i'm happy. I'll i'll sign up for that in. Minneapolis kidding absolutely. So yes so. We're going to celebrate the life of the great hall of fame manager. Tommy lasorda and i know you. I never met him. Rob i i know i never inc meeting. When the brief time. I covered some pro baseball. But i i was a huge fan dodgers. Were you know. I lived in cincinnati. Of course i was young ready. And the dodgers used to be in the same division. When in the west right nash. Yeah yeah they were net division and I was a big dodgers fan. I like them more than the they had their robert the yankees and i like the dodgers more davey lopes and steve garvey and iran. I was a big fan of these guys win. Lasorda was manager. Obviously fernando valenzuela. So i just admired him from afar Did you have much dealings winning personally when you because i covered the reds chris and we would make three trips out to to away every year. You know what. I mean. So i was around. A lot was in dodger town. Vero beach for spring. Training games was in his manager meetings. I was around him and he was full of life. He was a real baseball manager. He understood our jobs. Chris he he had funny stuff for us. You know if he had to go off go off. He was one of those guys who was a manager but he was a personality right really was he was an ambassador. You know you hear this a lot. An ambassador of the game tommy. Lasorda was an ambassador to baseball. Everybody loved him. He sat unused to come into the pressroom. Chris tell stories. You know the baseball manager. They sit around and tell you these old great stories ri- and what he did all that and i'm cold our managers that are like that. They love talking with the media. You know time adversarial ron thing. Not that they won't call you out once in a while saying they understood the job and it was different than it was different. You got to know people on a personal level but he will be missed but his legacy. Chris and his legend and all the stuff he leaves behind. And you know being out here in los angeles people are are beside themselves. You know one of those guys brian. They love tommy lasorda and be a manager for twenty years with the dodgers and then be connected to that. We brought it up earlier. The great game world when they beat the vaunted as and yet and kirk gibson and new watch on that video. Tommy lasorda's the first guy out of that doug alcoholic crazy absent. Hit that home. Run right well we. We have some great rants from tommy lasorda. He gave us many. We're gonna play a few and then we're gonna go rob go into some other historic rants by some of the great ranch talk about them and then see what the listeners think. As far as which ones they really love which was their favorites. But let's play the start off with a couple. From time he lasorda. First here's lasorda owen. In this guy. Remember dave kingman. The daily home runs in a game against the metro terrible and it was in los angeles and he was asked about dave kingman performance. Here he goes your opinion and which my opinion of before with you think might put that. In my opinion of his performance. He beat with three runs opinion. This could you ask that question like that. Well it's my opinion of visible of his performance. He hit three home runs to lose a game. And you ask me my opinion. This performance question asked me what my opinion of this performance. Yes it is. I ask giving you gaming headset. Well i didn't get good answer. Because i'm mad but good question question asked me right now. What is my opinion this performance. I mean he wanted me to tell you what my opinion performances just did. That's right three home runs against us. Hey steve sega quickly can you jump in. Yep paul paul. Old is the yankees. Pa announcer he. Plays bob sheppard. He's i mean he he is and that was paul. Oldham you were you around. Steve for one thousand nine hundred seventy s but as a radio reporter in many in a dugout office of manager. Keep in mind that columnists go in and they have an agenda. They have something already half written in their heads and they fit that work with the radio guy which and was simply needed sound as a result of the big guy of the game. And so who's asking the most federal question possible that clip that you played got played on la radio. And the jim healy. Show four years and years back then. Could you even play that old. But i'm surprised you even play with the beeps. We're a lot of tommy beeped quotes that got played on that particular show. We got another one. Here's kirkby vodka. Kurt bevaqua tommy lasorda. On him i have never ever. Since i've managed ever told the pitcher to throw it anybody nor will i ever and if i ever did i certainly wouldn't make him go at a one hundred and thirty hitter likely or who could hit. Water fell out of to you this pitch against a team. That guys on it lacks limousine to get the lineup. Because i could not tell you that i love it. I love tommy. Lasorda was a piece of workers absolutely was he has a great quote. That's a great. And he's right. If i'm throwing at a guy at one thirty hitter by cook. Dr shooter pretty funny. Last some other great rains just historic rants and maybe somebody young guys some young listers. They might not a heard all these but obviously some are older ones will no one but you there so great. You'll appreciate hearing to begin. First of all danny green the late dinnie green great football coach here. He is dale monday night. Football has the bears and they lost to the bears and he was upset here. He is the bears or what we thought they were what we thought they were. We played them in. Preseason who help takes a third game in a preseason like both. We played them at their game. Everybody play three quarters. The bears are who we thought they were. That's why we took the damn field if you wanna crowd them then crown. They are who we thought they were. We let him off the hook. I love that review. He caught some flak for that in my wrong which and he hit the podium. He was pissed really got to relax. Oh you're not expected to bear the something you know question like that. It was pretty a great. I thought there was a great statement. So i love the delivery man. Here's another one. Jim mora talking about the playoffs. The playoffs we'll talk about playoffs. You kidding me playoffs. I just hope we can win a game. Yeah he was. He was causing the colts. Believe at that time they their data terrible game and hurt their plus. And just the way. Just we've planet to waste says pla- playoffs playoffs playoffs. You can be layoffs. I hope we can win a game. That was great. Let's go to college. Football mike. gundy. Coaching was culture in oklahoma state. Who was he coaching oklahoma state. Here he is if you wanna go after an athlete one of my athletes. You go after one. That doesn't do the right things. You don't downgrading because he does everything right and not play well on saturday and you let us make that decision. That's why the newspaper because it's garbage and the editor coming out. His garbage attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then you want to write articles about guys that don't do things right and down graham. The ones that do make place. Are you kidding me where we add in society today after me. I'm a man i'm forty. He something about me talk garbage. Rob what was your view because we both start out covering high school sports. And you do three. You know you treat treated high school athletes differently than pro and college and even college a little differently than pro. You know you're critical. Obviously a pro athlete. But you got to be a little different with high school athletes. I remember when i was at the plain dealer in cleveland. We had a writer this the early nineties who was who ripped like a high school athlete in his story. Yeah and it just didn't sit. Well i remember all the ramifications but you know he got reprimanded and it just wasn't you know you gotta be different with young kids now again division one college. That's different i. What was your view. I got i got in trouble. My very first job and wilkes barre pennsylvania and we were doing stories. It was a little league. Chris like some sort of little league tournaments and they were eight year old ripped it but they were mad that i named the kid who missed a to wild ground ball through his legs. That cost a team the game. Yes how so. How about sales us up the only up to you can only play little league twelve so he might have been you know between nine and twelve and my thing was and they didn't wanna to put his name. They wanted me to not have as naming paper. And i said. How can you ryan cry. Why are we not put his name. He missed paul. And mrs my point. I said to him if he hit a grand slam the win you were put his name in. Come on at doesn't make sense. I'm they wanted me to write. The second baseman made an error and they lost a game. That's what they assume. They took the name out. Yes i argue with them. Because i didn't think that was journalism i don't believe in it. I said if if we can name the kid then we shouldn't be covering their games. That's what i said chris. We shouldn't be when. I think when i was playing as a kid. I mean i. I played warner and some baseball where there were articles. You know in the paper. Now that i think about them most of them were all the positive. You know what i mean. So this had a touchdown run catch. There wasn't negative. So i don't know it's a nestle scenario. What happened com. It's hard to especially when you said it was the game. Winning air all went through his legs. And like you know to the tying and winning run score to we got a couple more real quick we got of course. This is one of the nba. Most famous allen iverson practice is easy to sum it up. We just talk about practice. We sitting here. I supposed to be the franchise player and we in here talking about practice coach. Listen we're talking about practice. Not a gain not a gang not a gain. We talking about practice not a game. Not not not the game that i go out there and and war and play every game like as my last not the game. We're talking about practice. Man i mean how silly is that. I mean we're talking about practice be there. I was the lead by example. I know that. And i'm not i'm not shoving it aside. You know like it don't mean anything i know is important. I do honestly do but we talked about practice. Man what do we know what that was like. Two and a half minutes he he has wanted the great voices two chris. Yeah just just his flavor is that is that right. Oh terminology. Yeah covering a i. He was very honest and transparent. Now and i notice from doing stories on him. He had trouble foll- following up allowed to wait like like for instance. When you know mo- cheeks becomes the coach you know. He says all the right things and i he really meant it from the heart but then he would be hard to follow it up he. He lacks disciplined some of those areas. He said things he was he was very honest. Tell them about. I want to know and we got one more but do we have. I mentioned the mike. Single terry when lee do we have that one or not cannot win with him cannot coach with them. Can't do it is so it's a quick one. But yeah i single cherry cough like i thought that was great. I remember that one. Yeah i thought want a job. I know really really well. That's that's hard core coaching. I like it. I'm alive and ninety nine. Let's hear leo. this is famous one. He was a cubs manager. Yeah we got all these so can fans that come out there. Come fans supposed to be behind you roof and every thing you do i'll tell you one. Can i hope we get can hotter than kissing. Stop it up than three thousand people show up every day because they fear the real chicago can fans they can kiss my get asked right downtown and print it really really behind your around here. My can ask somebody because you guys have written good to go out there and like my players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it for the nickel dime people that show up on even work. That's why in game go out and get a job and find out what it's like to can levin eighty five percent of the working the other fifteen come out here it's like mother ripped the black guy fucking people and that's the conference. Mike rob. we're in the public eye. 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A few years ago and lamelo ball backup coming off the bench for the charlotte hornets hornets. But he was there big draft number three pick by michael jordan and the charlotte hornets. And they're playing tonight right now new orleans. Which has the better team. They're getting the best of charlotte new orleans at four. Four is winning sixty four fifty five charlotte's three and five there early in the third quarter. But right now rob lowe. I'm sorry lamelo is having the better game. Statistically lonzo's guy five points to assists and seven points four assists nothing to write home about in the mellows coming off the bench. Lamelo is has only played thirteen minutes to average out. Chris do you have. Lonzo is averaging thirteen and a half points. Four and a half assists. Which is i believe a career low and four and a half to say that's a small number right there. That's not even all makers chris brandon. Ingram is the team leader in at five and a half per game. So the ball's not in lonzo's hands as much and Yeah look lonzo asked me which one of these two is. The better player for years from now i would say lamelo lamelo lamelo has shown that he could be a star is not to the point where you know. He's gonna be a star yet. It's not like so just say really inside is bigger than his brother lonzo. Because we've seen lonzo chris now for what four years. What is this for this fourth year. I believe yep fourth you and i'll tell you maybe it was chris because of where it was drafted maybe was because his dad was too loud. Maybe it was because magic. Johnson johnson pumped up like p.t. Barnum like it was a circus. Come see the fat lady. Whatever it was chris. I think he's suffered. He suffers from that. Do you know what i mean. Like the build up you meet a knife slayer cepsa right. Ain't going to be a star in this league chris. He's not it doesn't look like and first of all your it's bothersome disconcerting. He's only averaging four and a half assist. Does we diculeng because again. We know he's not going to score. So if you only giving me four and a half assist. Jason kidd averaged thirteen points. He was going to give you nine assists. Say he should be getting nine assists with with would zay on an ingram right now and he's shooting thirty two percent almost thirty three percent from three. It's rob is different. Nba and magic. Johnson wasn't a great shooter. Jason kidd wasn't a great shooter. Obviously at the end of his career. He became a three point shooter but he can shoot when he entered elite. But guess what it was different back then today's nba. And i say this about ben. Simmons is hard. If i got a point guard. They can't shoe. I totally agree. That's why i keep saying if i'm getting rid of anybody's ben simmons in this man's nba. I'm i'm serious. But i i don't is good but yeah i mean i'm talking about trying to win championships. It's going to be tough with that. He won't even take them but the lonzo flame out on. I don't know maybe people see something else. Maybe chris a couple more years. He gets a little more aggressive. But if you not aggressive at this point has gotten more aggressive. I'll give him with that shooting. It more he definitely more aggressive but even at ucla. And i liked this about him. He gets rid of the ball fast which may be one reason. His assists aren't as high although they've been hiring previous years. But you know. When i was coming up i mean you were taught to move the ball and as a point guard. You get the ball outlet. You're looking up court if somebody's ahead of you. That can do something with it. You kick it up to him and he does that which i like. Most point guards wanna dribble dribble dribble out of time but at this level especially with the high pick and roll. It's huge and nba. Today you do need to be able to handle it and make moves off the dribble which is not a big strength of his game. Now lamelo on the other hand does have their up lamelo. I had one scout now. This is a bit of overstatement. But one scou- i don't know if i read it or somebody told me i can't remember but they said that this guy is as creative as with like one of the most creative guys with the body seen since pistol. Pete that's goes sound ridiculous but lamelo is flashy man. He's fun to watch why his passes or flamboyant and you know and he's somehow shooting better than lonzo he's shooting thirty five percent almost from three which for him is good because that was the knock on and we couldn't shoot coming into the league. Yeah i talked to a a nba basketball hall of famer and basically. He says he told me that. Lamelo obviously has and has writing but the still got to see more because of his path to the nba. Chris his competition nettie played against the all. The aau basketball was chuck. It from anywhere you want. And no one's going to say anything to you and now you gotta get this guy to learn how to play winning. You talk about it. All the time chris winning basketball right. There's difference between just playing basketball and getting yours and winning basketball and until they get that kind of figured out with him chris. I don't know what we're not sure what we got. That's where i mean now. It's what i was just a question. That was one of the big questions did that was that before the draft or recently you were taught. This was after this was white when he started and had the goose egg on the opener. Right after that. I wanted to call somebody you know who i believe in. And they know the game and all that because going into the draft. That was one of the big questions about him was. He hadn't really played a lot of series basketball right lithuania or australia. I'm sorry they were exhibition games. Essentially lithuania was very similar to that talent level. Young just isn't up. He he just you know in the aid you even when he played high-school i mean they were cherry picking left and right. I told you. I went to a game in. La and a playoff game they had they lost and him and The the number the second brother liangelo liangelo were on the team. Chris team that the game that was watching and poor they were just shucking cherry three-quarter shot take the ball by get the ball and bow. Take two dribbles and then chuck up like a fifty foot shot I was like. I couldn't believe what i was. What they lost the game because they did shoot well rob. That's why i've been a bit surprised. At how well he has played because these what look his numbers are better than lonzo's already lies. Averaging thirteen and a half points lamelo is averaging twelve a lamelo averages and he's player fewer minutes than lonzo lamelo averaging five rebounds to lonzo's four and a half lamelo savage and five assists lonzo's four and a half the mellow shooting better from the free throw line. there's the same from the field forty percent both of them and then from three lamelo. Thirty four percent lonzo's thirty three percent so and remember coming off the bench. And that's what i do like that. He is coming off the bench. Like i didn't want charlotte to just hand them the keys. They got terry rozier. Who's better lou lamelo. At this point they got devante graham. Who had a great season last year. Eighteen points. I think five or six. You know wouldn't have that high though you expect them big rights and i get it which online and that's why i liked it. They're making him earn his minutes. You know they're not just given an a bad team to your point but that they because of that you would think they might just throw him out there. Starting playing thirty five minutes a night. You know what i mean. Let him just do whatever he wants. And that's not happening. Which i think is good for him. Because i think maybe he could learn. We had to kind of play some serious basketball. I'm curious as to what people think what they've seen so far how far lonzo's star has dimmed not that he can't be a decent as a legitimate in a player. I'm not saying that right but when you hear. Member was in that draft deer fox. Yup the air fox is playing like an all star and deanne fox who killed him in college number yai if his dad lavar was a normal dad where you didn't know who he was he didn't say anything. I think the lakers would have been more apt to take the aaron than lonzo because as you said the area killed him in in in college i thought it was at a tournament game. What was it would they. He was a game one time. Lonzo didn't play your some. They played twice. I think in the season. If i'm not mistaken lonzo sat out one of the games. But yeah are the air is looks like the better player for sure at this point but though solid but like you said his dad's mouth helped him get drafted by the lakers. And they all heard you put a target on his back from fans the media and other players and then magic did worst doubled down jersey's he's going to be in the raptors next to ma. I mean chris you remember the best boy ghar ever. You said this is go. Break your records so look lonzo. I think wants to play in peace. He is on a good team. Let's see if they can start winning. But i think he could be a part of you know if they build something special in new orleans. I think it could be a part of it but again is disconcerting at. He's only at four and a half assists. I'm sorry that i. That's not a good look. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 1)

"Loudest who's? Quite some time. What? Gary woodland doesn't care about Gary woodland today, but nice nice pull a Gary woodland US open champion done L z pay attention to stuff. I pitch into the skewed activity -solutely. This is so good. This is so exciting because I don't remember the last time we were talking about the Lakers, and it was about something good something exciting. Something about the Lakers do simmer when he was twenty nine and ten right? Since then, it's been, it's June. It's the middle of June. So December spin a minute. They got it done. Yuki you said they're going to get it done. They got it done. They paid a very, very steep price to get worse. But Anthony Davis is a member of the Los Angeles Lakers, at least in principle. They'll get it done officially, eventually, but eighty is on his way to LA. He is. He's already in LA. Let's put it that way, it took a minute. They went through some buffs, obviously with the whole Magic Johnson fallout that they couldn't get it done. Started Khanna the spiral of the organization kind of going all different directions. But in whoever made the decision along with rob Pelinka Jeanie Buss, Kurt Rambis whoever, which I don't care who it was. They got their guy. I think that, that was the important thing. You look up and you say, well, did they give up too much? I don't believe they did. I think that they're going to get the better into this because you gotta look at what they're trying to do. They're trying to win now. They're not trying and win in the future in the reason is, is the bronze as I say all this is a LeBron James deal. Okay. He's got two years left on his contract with an option. So you figure hey, if I could get Anthony Davis here week and free up another whatever twenty eight thirty million dollars in cap space. We can get a third guy that's out there and forty percent of the league supposed to be free agent. So you got your pick litter. You kinda find who you want that matches up with those guys will get that guy in here. Now make a run, especially it kicked in high gear when golden stay start to fall apart in everybody starts seeing. Oh he's hurt easier. They're not going to be this thing opens up next year for the Lakers. If the Lakers can get the third guy and puts the pieces around all three of those guys. The Lakers will be planning championship. I wanna. To start off by first putting certain viewpoints, narratives and check. For those who think this is a can to Boston and the nets stop it. Cagey MPP were so far past their prime. Right. They were starting to come into a different pry by that's how they were pretty for seniors today. AARP. This dude hasn't even really reached his prime yet this do being Anthony Davis. So the future draft picks exchange we didn't take away the future Anthony Davis as future. That's totally different. Number two, I'm going to hold off on criticizing rob Pelinka until I know definitively whether or not he negotiated and good faith for the thirtieth of next month as opposed to the six and the difference being the ability for the for the Lakers to have flexibilities bay reported that rob Pelinka did not negotiate for this train to be consummated on the thirtieth. Right. But rather the six if they have it under six, they don't have to him out of money. They have less money to work with. They don't have max long fork, max four million less. So just because it hasn't been reported doesn't mean rob Pelinka didn't do it. Some hold off and criticizing that part of until we know for sure, at the end of the NATO at the end of the day Elsie, if amac's guy, I'm. Mm, whatever the Maxine one ninety two hundred. It's the same number. Okay. Not kit. Is when you try to get to a championship when you like Jimmy Butler in your trial, or Kimball Walker, or any of those guys and not the Kawais clay's, not the katie's. But if you're those other guys that we're targeting, they haven't won championships. So to get to a championship, you will take four million dollars. Less to go play with a championship winner and know that I'm gonna be there for the long haul alongside Davis illiberal James, I do that all day long, but I'm not worried about it. I'm not thinking about the third guy. I'm thinking about all the other pieces, you need to sign in order to make this a team you need that for a million dollars you need every little down. You can get because other free agents of course, you gotta by, of course, that, that's what's interesting about this, too. Is that what comes next like, because you have Anthony Davis, you have LeBron James? You have Kyle Kuzma Dicky. You have you have some bodies, but I don't think that the Lakers are planning on having Alice Caruso, as part of their starting five what they go get in free agency, whether or not that extra four million bucks allows them to go and get a max player. Some gets key. I'm with you. I think if you're giving a guy a long term deal, four million over the life of the deal, or even each year of the life of the deal, probably isn't a dealbreaker but to fill out your roster with quality guys will get to all of that kind of stuff guys because at a trait that happened, you're gonna find guys like Trevor reason you're going to be able to go get that guy. Bs at the end just wants to play basketball play on good team been in the Lakers before. When you look at the trade overall you talk about those numbers, he's about three first round pick Travis, the fourth pick the Lakers that Ford Pigafetta kept the fourth peak that player what was that player gonna play it. I mean where was he feed in it? And you look at everybody's saying dairies gardens a guy four but you look at those later picks in consecutive. Years. I think it's twenty twenty one. Right. Is that Lakers championship mo- ending? They go out to find the diamond and rough, whoever Horth pick that they're giving away in the draft picks coming up on Thursday. That's available pick. I mean, it's the fourth pick in the draft in that you have to give up something I get something. So they gave up Lonzo ball and Josh heart and Brandon Ingram and the fourth pick and the more the other two first round picks you know, if things break the way that they that we hope they do they're supposed to you're talking about picks twenty eight twenty nine maybe thirty you're talking about the last pick in the first round, potentially. So those other first round pace could be something that's like an whatever I mean you'd rather have him the not have them, but it's not like you're going to give away a lottery pick. I mean, look, put it this way, if they're giving away two lottery picks in those years, something catastrophic cows, a lottery pigs in those years. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody needs to quit catastrophic happen. Right. And the injury hit runs is is this. I guess can you when you look at the trade, and you look at what the allegedly was going to give up on the Magic Johnson regime, and they gave up under rob Pelinka's regime, which one is more. Well this, this deal here has the fourth pick in it. And this pick has two other first Rumbek the other deal was mostly the whole team player. It was basically everybody. And none of the future, it was just. Here's what we have. Yeah. That that's still was to future, though. Right. All your young players talk twenty twenty one twenty two year olds if you train on event, and you still train your future away the differences. And you know, people got to remember this, Anthony Davis is the future. Yes. He's only I know he's been around for a long time, but he was a one and done. He's only twenty six straight for the next strike for the nineteen years. Yeah. He's got a nice long runway. Nice low railway at least eight of really sort of productive year and what also will do assuming that LeBron is, is okay with this idea is that as LeBron ages, and I, and I think we all agree that age pretty gracefully to. I don't think that we're going to all of a sudden wake up one morning and go. Oh, he. Play. I think it's going to go from he's top two or three guy to his top ten guide, who is a top fifteen. He's going to be a good NBA player even after he's long past being the best player. And now of a sudden, if LeBron James is the fourteenth fifteenth twentieth. Best player in the league, five years from now, four years from playing now is, but if Anthony Davis is still running in there in the mix championships. And libra I still believe that LeBron is chasing ghosts. He's chasing history. He's not just chasing. What's happening right now, if he gets closer to Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and all of these things that matters to fi- usual laws fires from now. Lebron won't be Laker. He won't be like he'll be retired and doing business. Celebration monday. The Lakers they paid a deep fry to get the player. They had to get. I know that the west is a lot more open into the four or five year. The best team in the NBA. We. That's very, my, the crown Mannix dancing berry. My making a peer. It's, it's right. Hopefully. Yeah. You'll clearly we're going to go a lot more often will look they got their guy. They got the they got the right guy. They got a great player who's twenty six years old, who doesn't turn twenty seven years old in till March of next year. The question is how much did they give up to get him? Did they give too much to get it done? Here's talking about David Griffin. Taking advantage of the Lakers. David Griffin New Orleans, executive vice president of basketball operations really preyed on the desperation of the Lakers to get Anthony Davis into the organization. The pair him with LeBron James of prayed on the fair. They had that he could very easily have done a deal with the Boston Celtics hit all the pressure points in LA several days before the draft all in all as big of a single deal as anyone has. In this modern era for a star player. That's what you're talking about. David Griffin we'll come back to that in a second. Join us here in studio is Stephen a Smith Smith show. I take more Stephen eight we'll Steve's so of your first reaction when you heard that the deal finally got. Well, I loved it. I thought first of all, it was only shot the Lakers had to get a all key free agent. None of that was talking about it. So you had to acquire somebody in the training, obviously, then individuals Anthony Davis. I think that easily propels the Lakers to being a top fourteen within the NBA. They all jibbidy title contender. We've got LeBron James and you got Anthony Davis on the same squad. There simply no excuse for you to at least make it to the second round of the playoffs probably further. And so when you look at it from that perspective that definitely is a plus then not last, but not least you still have at least twenty three million dollars, you could potentially have twenty seven to thirty million dollars vailable and cap space. And if you can't get a marquee guy like a career or Kemba Walker to a lesser degree. You can certainly go out there and get some supplementary or. Complimentary parts to pair with Anthony Davis and LeBron James. And who's to say that somebody like kyri Irvine would end up deciding to shift his focus from Brooklyn, New York to LA, because everybody's looking at the max dollars in terms of the totality of the contract. They forget the fact that you could do to, to plus one, you can sign two years. You know, having opt out in that third year by that time you'll have ten years in the league and as a result, you'll be in a position to get max dollars. Right at that particular moment in time when the brawn James is on his way out the door and in the future, the Lakers, evolves, around Tyree, Anthony Davis. These are the kind of things that the Lakers plan on making their pitch to acquire. Somebody of his magnitude to the squad already. Assemble Stephen wasn't that I feel like this is the feels like the shack Kobe years, it feels like the pile Kobe years, because you bring in a guy like Anthony Davis in obviously LeBron James of their and much like you're saying in those years, there, complementary pieces around those guys didn't have. Three superstars two guys couple young draft guys. You know, our Devon George like account coups. If they don't somehow get that third guide, what shooters are available for them. Well, first of all, you got Seth curry in Portland. You could pursue him. Obviously, you've got a guy like Darren collison who you could possibly potentially going. Get Terry Rozier, a point guard. Remember, you don't have a point guard. He traded Lonzo ball. You were gonna draft areas. Galler with the number four world pick out of Illinois over you traded that the likelihood is he'll fall, the number four less David Griffin decided to go in another direction. But either way you lake as you don't have that number four pick overall. And you know what you had Rondo for one year nine million dollars. But I think it's not to say that you don't want him back. It's just that what the Lakers proved to you last year. Is that this is a shoot as game now the game is changed drastically and having a surreal, point guard who knows how to be a playmaker, and stuff like that is big. And as important as that is, it's not it pales in comparison to needing shooters. When you have a guy like LeBron James on the floor, then you have. Ryan winters on this morning on get up talking about potential return of the ngelo Russell, because of kyri Irvine ends up going to Brooklyn anyway, than Dangelo. Russell would be a free agent and therefore he'd be free to get back now. Some people say, why wouldn't he cash in? He's gotta get his money now. I'm sorry. I got news for you de ngelo Russell and twenty five men. So I mean, I think the Lakers have enough to get him back if that is indeed what they want to do. So I just look at it from that perspective and say, there are bunch of parts out there that you could potentially get more importantly, that's a big. That's a beautiful problem to have the issue that you did at want was the ability to get that marquee got to play alongside. Lebron James now that that has been resolved these supplementary parts that you're talking about surrounding him with, is the ideal circumstance for Los Angeles. 'cause this is when being in LA comes into focus, if you are marquee star. You might say what the hell away I ne- with LA. Yes. I love the southern California sunshine but I lived in off season during the season. Why do I need? To pay those taxes and play for this franchise. But if you are those average marginal or slightly above marginal players than that's easier to assemble you. There's been reports even that rob point did not negotiate the extended deadline for the trade. In other words, if it happens earlier, guess, we don't have as much money. What does your gut tell you, that is simply has reported that we, he didn't go, she ate that way or that this was an oversight because of his inex-? I don't I don't think it was an oversight. I think that if you're David Griffin is experienced as you are what you're trying to do is help yourself, but limit how much help the Los Angeles Lakers. They are in the same conference. And so it's one thing to give up and four for Anthony Davis, while not getting called coups Mer in return. It's another thing entirely to facilitate it to such a degree that you on them with the ability to get even more just because you're giving them an additional twenty four days, they're like. Wait a minute. We don't help you but, but we'll be Dan. A pressure that those first round picks twenty twenty three the exchange for. You got to remember the first round pick dishes significant because it's the fourth overshirt. But after this year, anti Davis and LeBron James, right? It's going to be a low around. Stephen everybody get five. Lottery. Pick something crazy. Absolutely. So you can't be worried like things apple everybody's making so much noise about them giving the three please. That's what I gave ocal. Want to that's the one person I wanted to hold on for their life and magic butted heads for Manny me. I mean, I don't know what we argued about more over the last couple of last eighteen months Cobb coups. Or Lonzo ball because I used to go off about both. Go. You know, he used to rave about Brandon Ingram. I don't wanna hear that cockles. And he's the rave about Lonzo ball. Don't get me started with that. Stephen smith. Joining us on the morning show all everything ESPN Lonzo ball speaking to him. Yeah. Will he be on the move? Again. I don't think so. They listen Lonzo ball can play you you've to that. You know, we talked about that when I've been of you, Joe my show, I've never said that Lonzo ball can't play. I've never said he was some scrubbing my indictment against Lonzo ball has was as still is his lack of Sirte of nece. I think he's somebody that's perfectly content driven the ball pass half court and going to hot in the corner. And I want to hear that from the number two overall, pick a right. His father's going to be on the first take this morning. I'm gonna tell him not to his face again. I don't I have a problem with somebody that passive having said, all of that every a lot I should say, everybody a lot of people in the league believe in Lonzo ball's play making ability. And they nor the lack of Sirte of as they think it was Tinseltown. They think it was his dad. They think it was those pressure, the headlines the glitz glamour. They think it's all of that. And as a result him getting new conference to play in will unleash him. We'll see. So we talked about the pitch. You mentioned Lonzo. What about the entire package talking about three first round picks my lawn? Brandon Ingram you talking about Josh heart did the Lakers. Give too much to get this now. Absolutely not use the word hell Israel. Listen. First of all Lonzo ball. Somebody, I think should've went after Jason Tatum, the anthrax or marketing Julia. Donovan Mitchell, number one. Number two, Brandon Ingram. We don't know the situation with those blow clock. Yeah. We have no idea. Let me tell you something. That's, that's a potential problem. Number three. I like Josh hot. I like Josh heart allot, but in LA would LeBron James dominating the basketball. He's a nice player who can hit perimeter shots doesn't mind defending has an NBA body woulda tremendous upside, but in the same breath again because you have LeBron you can afford to lose somebody like that because LeBron James presents limits, what he's going to be able to do for you, because you can't unleash him because you gotta give the ball LeBron. Then you've got three picks. And I just told you what the deal was with that. This pick is valuable that's worth Anthony Davis. The two picks gonna be laid the first rows. And Obama the way Anthony. Davis is twenty six years. And my act like this do thirty three on a downside of his career, if Davis is twenty six he hasn't least a decade left in basketball. He's six ten closer to six eleven by the way, before if Davis was averaging twenty and eleven do you know what he was primarily known for his defense. He can defend for different positions. He can block shots. He can defend the interior. He's a swat master. He can got God's he can got any forward position. And, and the do has a perimeter shot to go along with us. He could play with his back to the basket. He could play facing the basket. He could put the ball on the floor. He could shoot threes. He hits free throws. He averages twenty eight and eleven and he's six ten and a half. And he's only twenty six years of age. And by the way, he I was just want to game the LeBron. More rebounds a game. Lebron more blocks the game. They'll lebron. You're hearing me man. I'm. Way, by the way last, but not least with the New Orleans pelicans relatively irrelevant. Anthony Davis is still religiously recognized as one of the top five players on the planet. I don't understand how anybody could think this is too much in what world what? What? France. Stephen a Smith coming up at seven o'clock, you can hear his show, the Stephen Smith show at ten AM. Stephen. Thank you very much problem. There you got. It wasn't too much. Anthony Davis is a Laker done in the summer of love drawn to off to a red hot start react to AD becoming a Laker, the home of that king is LeBron. ESPN LA seventeen the ESPN app. Happy birthday to pock. Hockey women forty eight years old today. Yeah. Yesterday was yesterday yesterday was birthday. Forty years old when he was killed twenty something under younger. Yeah. One drivers carry one now younger. Yes. Indeed birthdays, accurate mouth shut right now. That is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover, Newport Beach Seventy-three toward the visit Land Rover Newport Beach dot com. Land Rover, above and beyond. All right. So we heard Stephen, right? They're talking about the price. I think the official answer was hell. No. It was too much in like I mean, if you're gonna get Anthony Davis, you're gonna have to pay like you said, is a twenty six year old guy that can defend every position on the court that has a better scoring average than LeBron James right now, more rebounds. I mean this is a top player in the league and you're not gonna get him for a bag of peanuts. You're going to have to pay for him. But according to Ramona, there was some desperation in here, and that the pelicans were well aware, here's Ramona reason, honestly, why they had to give up so much. And simply the pelicans knew how desperate, the Lakers were to make this trade the. Acres sauve, their prospects and free agency dimming over the last couple of weeks. I mean two of the top free agents on the board. Kevin Durant, and Klay Thompson got suffered catastrophic injuries in the finals and the other one cone, Leonard just wanna title in Toronto. I think they looked at the board said Anthony Davis is probably the best player that we can go get this summer now that they have them, it makes them all that much more attractive to free agents. Desperate, perhaps. But that doesn't mean they didn't do a great deal. It doesn't mean that they didn't get that. They gave up so much because that's what everybody is just did everybody's saying that everybody thinks too much because they're not really breaking the picks down. First of all, they're not really understanding, the picks the picks the picks you set that aside, Josh heart much. Like Steve ages said he does pretty much the same thing LeBron. I mean, you know, shoots the ball. He needs the ball in his hands. Soldiers lebron's. He's a nice piece. Starting I'm starting when he thought honesty them I thought we'd be able to come on the other side with him because I didn't think has he would matter that much to them, and I see him as Derek Fisher two point. Oh, you don't you don't know you like Lonzo ball. We all agree as a good player. We've seen him places college and some of us senior high school, and we think he's going to develop but he's only played with fifty some gains ninety nine to ninety nine games to season. Yeah. So you look at that. The complaint complaining part about him. Is he can't shoot? He can't shoot doesn't wanna shoot because they don't wanna go to freak on. So that's the problem. Then you got the Ingram ping Ingram get your two months joke. We use like, okay, I'll see what they like. But then he's got an injury issue. So when you start to really break everything down, how could that possibly be too much? I think people are looking at the pigs more than anything else and instantly, when you hear that many picks and the word I connected to those pigs people, assume you brought it the future, what they need to pump the brakes little bit. Maybe turn turn off a little bit of the national television and listen to the Michael folks who are saying, listen, he's twenty six years old, the picks that you're talking about swapping, not giving swapping are like five and six seasons from now when he's thirty thirty one thirty two years old. I don't think we're going. Be a lottery team with a thirty two year old Anthony Davis a centerpiece. No. Well, you, you, you're talking about Anthony Davis, but you gotta remember this other people that are going to come that are going to probably be super. There's kids in high school, three years from now for years from now that will be on the Lakers team that we don't even think about this free agents that we're not thinking about three or four years from now that when the bronze steps away, you clean up. All that money you go back out there and you pick another guy up to pair with a guy like I think your point a good one this idea that they gave up three first round picks. The first round pick that is valuable is the pick that's going to be made on Thursday night. That's the fourth pick overall. There's values that the pelicans will have the first in the fourth pick in the draft. I mean, that's you're gonna do some work right there with those two picks or maybe they can flip it somewhere else for another player. If if this thing goes the way that we all hope, and I think, to a certain degree expected to go those other first round picks are going to be twenty eight twenty nine. Maybe thirty if they win the whole thing. I mean you're not talking about giving away nevermind a lottery pick. You're not even talking about giving away pick in the top twenty maybe even in the top twenty five and who've the Lakers have done very, very well at the back end of the draft with guys like coups with guys like heart they found good players, but where what you're going to get is you're going to get your speed. You're gonna get your moat Wagner. Those are the guys you're going to get in that spot in less. You really find a diamond in the rough somewhere. It's the players that they gave up now Hart, who's Kuzma, heart ball and Ingram and the fourth pick. That's the trade basically unless all hell breaks loose. Yes. And, and I get it. You know, makes good TV allows us to debate, but this isn't a debate make one trade, New Orleans did. It's possibly could give given the situation because Anthony Davis didn't wanna be a New Orleans. And they had to- Boston. We're not resigning with you. So I get the idea that makers desperate, but it's not as if New Orleans power position either. Monday. Acres. They paid a deep twice to get the player. They had to get. I know that the wax is a lot more open into the four or five years. The best team in the NBA. Disrespectful as disrespectful play a pot and then play big minutes to got to squeeze a lot in today. But it's a Father's Day thing today. Call you big pop last Nike. No. What would they do that? Okay. Thanks. No. It was a very special Travis could be coming up at about twenty minutes. All right. You don't wanna miss it. No, I won't I won't miss. Father's it. Yeah. It was cool. You stood me up. But it's not true. Them up. Never asked him. Titas to them over with. No, that was neither that because I didn't stand up Travis. Didn't do we didn't do it. We spoke on Saturday, and I was out in lovely on Tero California watching my son play baseball, and I said to him and said, hey, when get back into town, a let you know, we can get together and have a drink. We're gonna try and get together. My mom dad were in town, too. So I couldn't really get away. Here's dump key for your mom and dad. That's putting. The key? Is he, he knows the story that we keep telling when key invited George Sodano or dinner and don't want ever heard again? If I don't take the meeting, I can't it can't happen to me. Are you free on Friday? No, no. Saturday. Oh, mom and dancing town. We'll just up next time and give him this fingers. Front door giving the two fingers. I liked the is it the ring finger in the middle. Nice feel about other things. So I feel like I'm a pretty good spot. I feel like I feel like all right. So let's talk about this. So the Lakers got Anthony Davis, they emptied the cupboard of a lot of the guys that they had right now they don't have a bunch of draft picks coming up. They're going to be able to restock with free agencies coming up here in a little bit. We've talked about a million of these guys. And we knew that Anthony Davis was part of it. Now he's here. Now he's part of this team. You have LeBron you have Anthony Davis. You have cow Kouzmin. Does it change start to target in free agency do because I think if you guys, but we're talking about Kemba Walker is kind of a guy like all right? Maybe end up with Kemba Walker now. Maybe he's your number one target going into this thing, because of the, the deficiencies you have in this team and the positions that you need to fill. I think you think you still you still got a look because everybody. Okay. At the end of the day, everybody is moving in free agency for big money, right? Everybody. Kyri. All everybody wants. Two hundred million dollars. There's nothing wrong with that. But they are they are players that are out there that are high quality players that the end of the day, taking a little bit of a haircut for the sake trying to get to a championship multiple times on the loan on the long-term situation. There players that will do that now. Whether or not Kimball Walker who said that he would take a haircut to stay with Charlotte. Now what's that haircut? Is it the thirty million plus that, that you've got because you're on the NBA team? Would you take less than that? Would you be happy with a shorter deal? Whatever those numbers are kyri urban. You've tried to do it yourself twice didn't work out once in Cleveland didn't work out. Then you move the Boston. You kinda went south on you quick fast her year being blamed for not advancing deep enough into the playoffs because a year ago, they went to the Eastern Conference finals, but they ran into LeBron this year, they couldn't get out their own way. But everybody's saying is you, you, you. So now you wanna go in you wanna par. In go to Brooklyn or you wanna go to the Knicks who's gonna wanna come and play with you opposed to you already know what it's like to play with LeBron you made that mistake before, and you regretted it. So maybe he comes and says, I'll take less money to be a part of this. And then you got the Jimmy Butler situation. Jimmy Butler went to Minnesota, and now I'm affiliated looks great, but great. But we can't get past Toronto and Jaanus doing great. And they're gonna get better. Maybe I need to go to LA impair LeBron James. But I gotta take a little less money to get my championship ring. So I still would reach for the stars. And then see what happens after that. But everyone's not a star. And that's my concern. On a hosted fast. Keep source. Okay. Three stars. Get with me some names. You don't think carries a store. Here's here's my thinking we need to have specific definitions about what we're telling our two players that are going to be unrestricted free agents that are a that's k b. Different working with the bees. And every single time you spend a money on a B player. You're waging, a lot and everything time spend money on a C player. You're waging even more. Our much rather us been be money on be players or be money or see players versus spending, someone's Kawai when really that Kemba Walker. Like I I'm just not down with that. I think that. The players should get in. You would get you're not going to get Katie and of show, you probably not going to get him. That's the top of the mountain less different. That's when you don't have AD just got the top saying shoes, the shooting Braun James is the top amount now comes to work now comes to ill. Guys, those see, here's let me, let me finish to go. Hey, here's what I would say when you got dough when you have a, Katy available, you have a Kawai available. That's the top of the mound, the AD vailable, you're going to spend that type of money on those guys. But when you have Jimmy Butler available kyri available it drives down, but those guys are still elite players, but you don't have to pay them like you pay a D like you. Pay question, though, isn't it? No key them, whether or not they'll take less thing because somebody. But see, but they're not going to get the supermax. Those guys are supermax guys. They're not going to get to Mexico matter who what team is out there. They're not gonna pay them. And if you take supermax money to go lose for the next four five years. So be it if that's what you wanted to have you want to win, a championship, which yourself in championship contention for an extra thirty million dollars of, you know, call it thirty thirty five I don't know all the numbers but it can't be, so it's a hundred million dollars. More you're going to get from Utah opposed to taking less hundred million less than the Lakers, this not that significant to feel that if you're gonna if you're going to spend after third guy made it being a player, if you're not getting one of those guys than go after the, the Darren collison go after the brook. No peasants AD doesn't wanna play center. We need a big man could shoot three's. Brooke Lopez's available in back bring them brim anything about bringing back that's going to cause money. Patrick Beverley is a free agent. Now, I don't know. I don't know how you guys. To grind, thanks. Thank with my with my sauce. Pagil- belly is going to cost money. So when I start thinking about okay, do I want to spend all this money on Kimball Walker understanding as to get a quality big man as -tuni- defense or split that money up and go. I need some defensive point Patrick Beverley big milk. Can give me a little Lopez. And see can I kick the tires and Paul Millsap or Marcus Morris because I'm a niece went to spell a definitely back. You know what I'm saying? So it's like a lot of stuff going on. Plus, you got the cow who's my thing, so you need to make sure who's everyone a second unit, because I'm assuming cow who's gonna come off the benches and super six-man seems like whoever on the second unit you need to make sure you got your point who can set him up. So come up to bench. Digits not going to be able to maximize him when he's out there, if you got LeBron AD kouzmines, just kind of I remained, they'll be on the floor together. AD four the bronze the three eighty dollars wanna play center. So all of a sudden now calculus squeeze done in the starting lineup. Here's another point in all of this, too, and I would typically agree with what you're saying about. You don't wanna spend a money on a beer receive player. As I'm talking about or not buying see play Walker. Jumbled be player but he's player. But these. Clearly, he knows he's not getting the supermax Charlotte, but you already knows knows. That's why he put that out there. I'll take lists. Right. So even obviously taking less than he may take less to come LA. I don't mind a bunch of money and Kemba Walker. For one specific reason in LA, Anthony Davis, twenty six years old. You have LeBron James, you're not asking him a Walker to come here and be the, this franchise and to get the pieces together to, to try and get a championship in the next season or two or three, I'm gonna have if I have to overpay Kemba Walker. And I think he's the guy that can bring this whole thing to a next level. I'm willing to give him all of that money. Maybe I'm just making them numbers here, twenty million a year. But I'll give him an extra ten percent on top of what I think he's worth an extra fifteen percent. Ask your question since we're talking about Kimba. Kimba about those buckets writing this never kuzma's for. So what exactly is somebody bring we gotta have somebody handle the ball on. So I thought I was gonna say the Brian James, why why you wanna point guard at the end. If that if everything else. Why everybody keeps screaming point gore point Gortat. We shouldn't have nobody Bryant volume. Anthony davis. Eve's Allegra threes. In the summer of love drawn to is off tomorrow. We celebrate with you. These laker.

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Special Preview - Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre - College Basketball Blue Bloods at a Crossroads & the Latest NBA Trade Deadline Rumors

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Special Preview - Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre - College Basketball Blue Bloods at a Crossroads & the Latest NBA Trade Deadline Rumors

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Hello and welcome ladies and gentlemen straight. Fire jason mcintyre tuesday march. twenty third. A fun monday of college basketball. I hope you guys did what i did. Plopped down on the couch around nine. Am pacific and plant yourself in front of the tv. The entire day devouring with turned out to be a lot of bad college basketball games. One game decided by single digits. We'll dive in a little deeper in a moment. I do want to set it up. Though a little later in the podcast rob g keeps telling me that there are some interesting trade rumors swirling in the nba. Apparently aaron gordon is saying give me the hell out of orlando whoever wants to get out of orlando i mean. Goodness gracious isn't orlando. The waffle house capital of america the strip mall capital of the united states. Who would wanna leave sunny orlando. I've got a lot of relatives in orlando beautiful city. Just not in the summer but we'll get to the nba a minute. I have to start with the ncaa tournament and one number. Basically is the driving force behind. What i'm about to say and that number is nine one because that is what the pack twelve is. Do the first two rounds of the ncaa tournament a staggering number. Sixteen teams are left. Four of them are from the pack. Twelve that's unheard of the pack. Twelve is usually a laughing stock. Come march they haven't done. They rarely do damage. I don't think a team west of the mississippi has won a title in like the last fifteen twenty years. You might have to go all the way back to arizona in the late nineties. Gonzaga could break that streak this year but they're not in the pac twelve. What is driving the pac. Twelve to complete and utter dominance oregon. Just stomping out a plotting slow. Usc hinden kansas. Its worst college basketball. Postseason loss ever ever. Usc what the hell's going on here. Now i will say. Let me take the time to pat myself on the back. Hope i don't pull a shoulder muscle so fox. Sports has be picking every single game of the ncaa tournament against the spread folks. Your boy went seven one against the spread on monday. And if you remember. I talked last week on the podcast about. I was in a calcutta big money. And i started bidding on a bunch of pac twelve teams and the guy who hosting it the guy. Jeff ma who was the impetus behind that movie twenty one the movie where the college kids go out to vegas and gamble and count cards blah blah blah. Ma is take shots at. Oh jason mcintyre little west coast bias. Now that you're in california 'cause. I was bidding on oregon and usc and ucla. Now i didn't end up getting those teams. Because i was outbid but i'm out here in. La watching a lot of college basketball and throughout the season you could tell they were building up some good stuff like oregon state. I mean listen. They look pretty good at the end of the season. Not incredible not swiss sweet sixteen worthy. But they're on the rise and then the run in the pac twelve tournament but it finally hit me monday night. As i'm recapping. We are in the tournament. And how the hell we got to four pack. Twelve teams in the sweet sixteen. And i guess what is happening is we're at a crossroads for the blue bloods duke with seventy four year. Old coach k. Hasn't won a title since twenty fifteen and that was also the last time they were in the final four coach case. Seventy four roy. Williams that north carolina right down the road tobacco road. He's seventy years old. He just had his first first round loss in the nca tournament. In twenty twenty. If covert hadn't hit north carolina would have missed the tournament embarrassingly the year before that knocked out on the sweet sixteen. They got destroyed by aubert year before that second round loss to texas a and m. roy wanna title and twenty seventeen but again. He is now seventy years old if you watch the makeup of that team that north carolina team. It's like what era you guys playing. They got these plotting big ben by the way one of their best returning players announced on monday. The seven foot. One mr basketball. From state of georgia walker chrysler. He's transferring. you wants out. And i'm not trying to say oh roy williams seventy year old fuddy duddy. The games passed him by coach k. Seventy four his best player quits in the middle of the season. They don't even make the ncaa tournament. I know covert hit in the in the acc tournament but duke was not making the ncaa tournament anyway and again. Would you lose the blue bloods duke. Sia unc sia kentucky scien- ara whose rising up whereas the uprising come from and it's clearly the pac twelve. The big ten was the best division miracle season. No doubt about it. They largely beat each other up and then they get to the tournament and you just watch their style of play and you could tell five minutes in okay. i was in some trouble. Against dog oregon. Oregon's got dominant guys on the wing to way more athletic. They're much faster. And it was a bloodbath. And then you watch a solid team pretty good team in the big ten. They go out. And what happens gets alabama alabama's just raining threes. They were like steph curry out there. They like five steph. Curry's just an sec team super fast dynamic on the wings the guard merrill couldn't stand for the guards and you're seeing this change and you know everything is cyclical in life. Okay the blue bloods have been on top for a long time. It feels like coach k. And duke or radha crossroads. How much longer does he hang around. This is a guy who in two thousand sixteen with brandon. Ingram lost in the sweet sixteen twenty seventeen with jason tatum and six other future. Nba players luke kennard grayson allen again. Jason tatum what are the twelve best players in the nba. Right now coach. K couldn't get out of the second round twenty eighteen coach k. Another stacked roster. Marvin bagley gary. Trent who's in portland. Having a really good season when del carter who was a lottery pick coach k. Lose in the regional final. Twenty nineteen with zairan freakin williamson rj. Barrett cam reddish. They lose in the regional final to michigan state and they missed the tournament this year. Listen i'm not saying they're done. It's over but it feels like the blue bloods are at a crossroads north carolina. i'm sh- roy's had a great run. Duke coach k. is arguably the most accomplished college basketball coach in the history of the sport. After wooden like is it time are they. Are we close to seeing those guys move on. It's time to bring some new blood because it's clear. The pac twelve has some of the best young coaches in america. Miss mick cronin with cincinnati. Look what he's doing. Ucla man they lose their best player. And they're in the sweet sixteen. Look at oregon dana. Altman one of the best coaches were the best young coaches right now in college basketball. Dana albans crushing. It oregon's a legit final fourteen. Andy enfield ten zero against the spread. The guy who took florida gulf coast and made a run now. He's doing it with like you can almost see it. Changing in the garden have largely left kentucky out of this. Because i don't know what's going to happen with kentucky in the one and done and this is kind of a complicated issue because kentucky is dominated. The one and done guys coach k. has dipped into that as well. But when you look at calipari what's going to happen with this one and done situation to two of the best players in the country and high school decided to go to the g. League the year before two of the best players in the country lamelo ball and rj hinton n. b. l. in australia of course disclosure. I am a minority owner of a team in the nba l. and that division is attractive. They've got a potential lottery. Pick right now on a team down there. Nice wing player from australia like these. European leagues can pay players. The players get sneaker contracts. there are more avenues. like what's going to happen when the elite one and done like yeah cake. Cunningham's skunk go to oklahoma state when they hire his brother. And you're going to get some other like evan mobile. Usc his dad hired on the staff him and his brother end up at usc. Kentucky may have to make some tweaks. I don't know what's what's in store for kentucky as these one and done players kind of make these moves. And maybe they have to pivot and they were to cross roaches. Well we will see member. Johnny zang the ucla scoring machine went to kentucky. Like didn't like it didn't really do. Any damage goes to ucla. He's in the sweet sixteen. So i'm not being overly critical. I'm just these are facts. The blue bloods kentucky. North carolina and duke. Already crossroads and you look at what's happening in the pac twelve. I mean oregon state's on a very nice run. Colorado did get smashed their by florida state. Florida state to very good team by the way florida states on the come up leonard hamilton. An older gentleman doing real good things could be eerie finally breaks through and gets to the final four but overall that would be my big takeaway from the first weekend of the ncaa tournament is something feels like. A changing of the guard is in order. You don't see us take thirty four point else okay. Kansas by the way the third seed. Usc was the succeed. The big tell there was. Usc was favored. That's very rare when that happens. So i'm not going to break down every other game. That happened You know we obviously the blowouts. And i don't think blowouts are super interesting. My i guess my my overall takeaway outside of the blue bloods would be that. The kid at loyola porter mo Porter moser the coach. There he is going to be able to pick any job he wants at this point right. He is doing incredible stuff loyola. They are by the way favored significantly against oregon. Say i think the line is six and a half and when you see a big number like that for loyola and loyal he already took him to a final four. This has shades of what shock. Smart did at vcu. This has shades of what. Brad stevens did at butler like. You do this. You basically stamp yourself as holy guy. Holy cow this guy's incredible coach and i'm super impressed with what's going on at loyola. They honestly folks there legit final four opportunity for them. I really think they can get there so that kind of wraps up opening weekend rob. Gee i am curious. I know you're not the biggest college basketball fan but did the did a monday full of games after a weekend. Full of games appeal to you at all or were you more into the the nba aspect. Nah i mean like you said. The games weren't good. That was part of the problem. I mean the unlike somebody parked over the weekend. Because i was you know doing other things. Monday actually didn't have a lot to do at all. So i had the games on pretty much all day. Problem was none of the games. Were entertaining a lot of blowouts But my biggest takeaway. I mean other than the fact that this is the year of the quote unquote upset. Which as we mentioned on. Yesterday's i don't know that necessarily a good thing for college basketball. I think that Having blue bloods or or name. Brands in the final four or deeper into the tournament is probably preferable but my basic was what i saw last night. I mean if evan mobely is not the number one draft pick then. I don't know what the nba sculpture looking at because katie cunningham. Even though you know he didn't play well in the tournament that's shouldn't be the reason why he wouldn't go number one. He just doesn't have the explosion. I think that i would want from a number. One overall draft pick from going to get a a big guard or a wing. I wanted to have kind of that elite first step that he can get to spot any time he wants to because other than luka doncic. I don't know who in the nba can play at that kind of pace and still be effective. Evan mobely looks to me like what was it. The porzingas corn comparison worth. Hey when you get a guy who's that big and that skilled they just don't grow on trees. It looks like ten thirteen five assists three blocks. He was everywhere his brother not his twin brother hit four threes. Which i didn't see coming I'm kind of with you on that. Now kate cutting hymns a big time playmaker and again. He's playing with a oklahoma state guys. Who upon graduation are probably going to be selling insurance or you know working Some some you know white collar job somewhere. I don't think a lot of them are going to be playing in the nba and perhaps on international. And you could argue the same. Probably for evan mobile and his teammates. I it's a tough one. I know you're out on kate cunningham. That's very clear based on mondays podcasts. A lot of people like dang rob. Gee what a cape cutting him due to him and like listen. There's the big stage. We didn't really show right bright. It happens and again. I don't mean to to bash him. he still think he's going to be fine in the nba. I don't think that's ever. That's not what i'm trying to say at all. It's just you know if you're going to be the number one guy you better have something. That's elite yeah. That makes you want to go. Even anthony edwards like last year's draft. I don't think i would have taken him. I i think. I may have said i would have rather had lamelo ball because i thought he had something that was that you couldn't teach and that was his passing ability but at least you could say was that guy is just a freak athlete but if we can hone in and mold this piece of clay into something then we could have a player on her hand. I think with evan mobely with what we're seeing in the nba. Now look i know. Everyone says that the big man is dead and basketball and that doesn't exist anymore. But one thing that i've noticed and i think you might have picked up on it as well as most of the best teams or the title contenders in the last couple of seasons. In this season as well have a big man or tall. Big wing Who can do multiple things like the thing. The thing that separated the lakers from everybody else last season was anthony. Davis lebron james. Anthony davis the denver. Nuggets went as far as god because nikola yokich not only could he score but he can facilitate the offense kevin durant even though i know. He's known as a small forward in a shooter. he's he's unique because he's seven feet tall and he's shooter you know the that's what makes them different joel embiid. That's why people say that if you can knock off the nets because joel embiid can kill you in the middle. So if you can find that big body guy who can do more than just catch lobs and today's nba. I think that that's something that that you got to. You got to jump on that as soon as you can. I think that's gonna help them in the draft. I heard a quote that stuck with me a while back. It was extreme people. Get extreme results. Anthony edwards is not extreme. Lamelo ball is extreme but look at the results. The extreme results that lamelo ball is resulting now. Kate cunningham is extreme i. I don't know evan. Mobely looks a little extreme. He's a seven footer. Who he he's a cross between. I think chris bosh and kevin garnett. That's my read nehemiah and again. That's not now. Obviously kevin garnett like. I'm a cuss out. Anybody who's european or small Mobile has like a good demeanor on the court but skill set wise. That's at least what i see. Now bosh bosh is putting like twenty four and twelve in toronto. I don't know mobilize capable of doing that right anytime soon. But at a ceiling was what i would put on that now Rob i know the wrapping up college basketball. I know saturday. The upcoming sweet sixteen does not have any need to stay at home and you know. Adjust your schedule to see oregon state. Loyola or roberts. Arkansas and the rock fight that will be syracuse for houston. I will say this on sunday. There are some games floor. Stay michigan too. Big brand names right. that's that's a win. ucla alabama. Unfortunately that could be a beatdown similar to alabama plays anybody in the pac twelve in college football. And then i think the nightcap oregon i think a large portion of the west coast will be attracted to that. I don't know about the east coast. But i wonder if people will wake up on sunday. It'd be like wait a minute. Gonzaga's playing ucla oregon usc all these teams west of the mississippi. What's going on and if it hasn't said in it's pretty clear guys the blue bloods crossroad. Maybe this is the springboard the pac twelve needs to get back to where it was that. Bill walton called the champion. What is it. 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Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live all right. Let's quickly move to the nba. Couple of interesting happenings. Rob g starting to see our rumors. That are the lakers. Going to trade for somebody. I know colin coward by fs. One certain push that on fox sports radio. I almost wonder however if it's not the other blue blood of the nba but on the east coast. The boston celtics i. I'm stunned rob. I really thought they would be taking off when marcus smart came back but they can never all be healthy. Jason tatum was out with an illness. They lose overtime. The grizzlies celtics now a game under five hundred and i mean kemba walker again. Do not play. Like i'm starting to get worried about this. Rob liz it. Danny i and i know people are gonna want to bring you down brad stevens and you probably will to celtics right now. Eight in the east. That's not good. no bueno. Although i will say this if they play the sixers in the first round and everybody's healthy out we saw the celtics take them down last year in the postseason. I i could see them doing it again. i would. i would not be afraid of the seventy sixers. I would be afraid of the nets. But i do wonder if the celtics make a move here at the deadline. Couple big name. Sound like they're gonna hit the market. Rob zach levine. My guy chicago bulls are the nine seed to get hot and get any traction. I'm big zach levine fan. I think he's too much of a good guy to ask out of town. But you just wonder if the bulls say listen it ain't happening with levin nobody's gonna wanna take it and window carter If we're gonna rebuild has got to be a shipping levin town. I think the toronto raptors could be a seller seventeen and twenty six. They've lost nine straight. Now rob the last time. I opened my mouth and blasted the toronto raptors. I went viral in the state. I'm sorry in the country of canada and essentially your boy had to Turn his instagram comments on. You have to follow me to comment because all these raptors fans got so angry. When i say they were headed back to the basement after i left i was just a year early. That's all it was the raptors right. Now stink now. They had to relocate down to florida. Okay that's tough due to covid and they're old and they lost Some talent Sergio bach has gone markelle. Souls gone it's kyle. Lowry norm powell. Fred van. vliet it's pretty clear. Pascal siakam is not an alpha. Not number one broke. They lost to the houston rockets. Who had lost twenty straight games. So i i think kyle. Lowry hits the market. I don't know if the clippers can afford it but we know they need a point guard. And i think the other big name is your guide. Lonzo ball i know rob was captain. Lonzo ball fan club. When he came to lakers law actually rob was captaining. The fan club with magic. Johnson and lonzo ball could be on his way out of new orleans third team in what four years on lonzo right now up or lonzo ball. I think that From everything that i've been told they he is very much on the market and it's not that they don't think he's a good player. He's not a good fit with their offense. It's that he wants a ton of money and frequency coming up this summer and because his dad like you know we took all his money and then bankrupt or stolen by by that big baller brand friend of theirs so yeah he probably needs money. Listen i'm all. I'm sure you are to rub get that paper lonzo right getting paid. Yeah i mean. Listen these leagues. we're all we're all one injury away for being done so go ahead get. I would lonzo take as much money as anybody will. Give me if that means. It's the houston rockets. Yeah i'll go into get paid. Oh yeah and i think if you know we live in la so we know all about the rest of america. Who doesn't know they're such thing in basketball as the clutch sports tax which means if you are a client of klutch sports the lebron james rich paul group year. Whatever you think. That guy's worth ad like three to five million to it and so blondes. Oh ball is reportedly looking for twenty million dollars stop. That is why the pelicans are saying even received free agent. we'd rather trade him get something for him. Then be forced to put a decision. We have the match a twenty five hundred dollar contract off because he wants twenty. Let's humor him and just quickly. I look at remember. He's a point guard. If you pay a point guard he's gotta be starting. Okay you tell me. So if you're forgetting twenty mil you're probably the number two player on your team right. Yes are not a lot of teams are paying their third best player. Twenty mil okay. So i'm just going. This will be quick. It will not take long seventy sixers. Are they taking on lonzo. Ball at twenty mil. No are the brooklyn nets. No other milwaukee bucks. No are the miami heat. No atlanta hawks who have trae young yes stopping. the reason. Why say gets big reason. Why i say because in the which which had a lot of this broken down. The hawks were mentioned as a team. That's interested in getting stop. Garb john collins and the reason being is because they don't think they're gonna keep john collins because they have a glut of big men all of a sudden after drafting that kid from uic white Unable yeah yeah. What a who's their centers name was doing and deondraye hunter might be able to play with small ball force and they don't really need another big man so they're oh they're thinking allegedly is that they could have lonzo be the point at certain aspects and get trae off the ball more with all reason they brought in redondo was do the same kind of thing. The difference is that monzo ball can shoot on mike region rondo. Oh gosh he's had one good season shooting in the contract you good luck paying that That the get sharp charlotte wait other. What while there's other than names that you brought up earlier in in. I wanna get to lonzo roku charlotte. Hornets obviously not. That's that's a pipe dream. There's no way jordan's doing unless you want. Shell brothers and they've already got rozier. Graham malinche monkeys playing well celtics. No chicago bulls. i personally don't see it The gm is like a european dude. I would with them if i was that. They kobe white. Kobe writes very good. What he's cheaper and who wins between kobe. White and lonzo ball. Oh my gosh. You're alonzo fan rob. No i don't think he's bad. I don't think he's that great but i don't think he's bad either. I think he's better on a good team. Then he is on a bad team right but the good teams pay them. Twenty mil like. Maybe what his move is. Take a one year deal go to a good team for like ten million dollars win a ring or get close to it. Show your value a good team and then somebody will pay you. Because like the indiana pacers at brogden. They're not paying him the raptors. Eventually they're not paying the cavs. Have all guards garland sexton. They're not paying him the wizards no way. They can't afford it they have beal westbrook. That no orlando magic. I think they invested in foltz. Didn't they yes did. And the detroit. Pistons are the only other option and they're totally rebuilding and there is no way on earth of all the players are going to. It's going to be lonzo ball so then you go to the west and it's like jazz. no way. Conley sons nope lakers. Nope clippers note nuggets one but they don't have the assets to get it is the problem. Yeah i'm sure lonzo would love to go back to la portland trail San antonio spurs no way would pop whichever take him. Dallas mavericks no shot golden state warriors. Nope memphis what. What yes you keep saying no to these teams that are reportedly on him. One of them is golden state so golden state did not want to draft lamelo ball. But they're going to trade for lonzo. I'm just telling you what's being reported there in on him. Because he's a ball mover. He can defend interchangeable with steph curry. The steph curry young thing is kinda the same thing where they're just as good probably even better off the ball than they are on the ball. Boy steph curry fast. Trae young thing like they're okay other there's level there's levels to obviously you know steph is much higher level player but okay even you can admit that steph. That is best when he's coming down pinned down off back screens and flaring out to the three point line now when he has to do a high pick and roll. Pass it down to draymond green. Just the problem is when you have to give up assets for a guy who's gonna to want twenty mil and you're not paying them twenty bill next year because you got klay coming back. And you have that minnesota timberwolves pick which could be like four five or six or whatever. Yeah i don't see that. So then you by the way we get through all of these teams like the thunder all. They're doing stockpiling picks. They don't want to give anybody twenty mil and they got to sacramento kings. Fda during fox. The rockets are doing the same thing. They're bottoming out and the temporal will have de ngelo russell. I don't know who these guys are. Speculating about lonzo ball. I would say almost certainly he does not get traded. And let me just make my theory here. Okay you can laugh. At the media is in the game of clicks. I started a website. okay. I sold said website. I know that clicks matter at the end of the day if the clicks aren't there the money's not coming in and i'm not just people throwing up hypothetical lonzo ball trades to get clicks but for a guy who's about to be a free agent who has a big name and had a brand coming into the league and people are interested in him yet. You put lonzo's name out there it's gonna click now. I'm not saying it's untoward and people are doing it maliciously but who else is what are the players are out there. I'm geared to you. Know big john collins he probably would be a bigger difference maker than lonzo at the trade deadline but nobody gives a shit about john collins. Sorry john collins and player. But i don't care took shit on kate cunningham. Yesterday you followed what you said about john. College lit good player but again nobody cares anyway. Okay go through the other guys available. Let's see what we've got now. Most of this is from the athletic which is headed by shamsher. India which is the most plugged in outside a woche reporter in basketball. So for you to kinda just assert that maybe putting for clicks. I don't know if he's the by the way who represent trump's is take a look into that okay if he's connected at all with a certain agency that's connected with mavericks grew planning on watching the game tonight. Here's a way to make it even more interesting. Oh is free bed of up to two thousand and twenty one dollars. When you place a bet with william hill sportsbook. Every sports moment becomes even more interesting. Every slapshot every bucket. Every every play a wager elevates your night pushing you to the edge of your seat gets your heart rate going. Your stomach nodded your goosebumps bumping your faith in yourself rewarded. Oh and with two thousand and twenty one dollars to play with risk free. There's no reason not to get started today. Download the william hill mobile app. And when you sign up you can get started with a risk. 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Twenty twenty one satisfaction score from twenty twenty internal data company. N m l s. Id number twenty six eleven and m l s consumer access dot org. There are two big names that seem like they could be on the move and one of them. Glad that you brought it up right in the beginning of this little segment. Is the boston celtics. And sam amick was part of a group that wrote this that Aaron gordon wants out of orlando. Not just. because they're losing but because he wants to go to a bigger market who does he. he thinks that his cue rating in orlando is suffering so he wants a large market with plenty of quote unquote branding opportunities by the way timeout. Who was the guy we talked about yesterday. Pj washington who's this woman. He's dating this major celebrity brittany renner right. Aaron gordon wants to a big market and start to date a celebrity like britney renner or like tyler herro with his instagram model. Yeah erin gordon is ready to level up get paid. I'll tell you now. What right now. Though on the real aaron gordon is could help somebody win a title this year. More than lonzo ball could. Oh yeah for sure. He's a great wing defender. Those are tough to come by. And i mean hell if i if i'm the celtics damn are the celtics licked aaron gordon. Yes and according to the report. It's not just aaron gordon. It would be aaron gordon and forty and every forty eight can choose what you will about right of his game but he can shoot up though. It's their trade exception and marcus smart. Who so but if you're boston and you just benched at the top there. They're struggling to say the least so needs some kinda shakeup in. If you can get aaron. Gordon and evan forty eight with only having to really give up. Marcus martins and picks could the trade exception doesn't really even count as anything you know. Somebody wrote this recently and we did not. We didn't make it a topic on your. Because i think it was right before the ncaa tournament. Somebody wrote an article about how there's two distinct classes in the nba. Now and i mean on the surface trading. Aaron gordon evan fournier for money and marcus smart. Like what the hell is that. That's basically oh we don't want to end up paying the luxury tax so us billionaire owners. Yeah we're gonna pocket the money that's basically what they're saying. Hey gordon you had a good run. Thanks for your service but good luck right. What are they doing with that judy. Marcus smart is going to be happy going from contending going what marcus smart plan. Three or four years. They've been in the eastern conference finals. And i was going to go to a bottom feeder and orlando like dat would be awful if i'm marcus. Smart that being said holy hell. You're looking at aaron gordon. Jason tatum jalen brown kemba walker. And i guess four as a small robert robert williams really good against brooklyn max of good against brooklyn terribly via. Well you put daniel feasts or robert williams. Who's actually playing well. We picked him up on our fantasy team. I know you don't care about that. Yeah that that's a home run. If i'm the celtics. I mean marcus. Smart though is the heart and soul of that locker room. I don't know who the leader is now. That locker rooms gets interesting because they've gone through some leaders right is eight. Thomas shipped kyrie irving was thought to be the hard soul when he got traded there. He was the leader. Ran into problems with the young guys. Marcus smart now. It's been there for a while. I that's sounds it's difficult. And it's tough to quantify what that means but that's a spicy deal rob. Gee all right. Aaron gordon what else you got while the other big one and i think this would be the most impactful move if they can make. It is kyle lowry. And according to what's being reported it's basically up to him if he wants to trade it or not you know. Because he's he's loyal to the soil in toronto. he's already come out and said even even if i get traded. I'm going to retire as raptor like. He's he's one of those of guys and so the two teams that are reportedly most interested in him. The miami heat and the philadelphia seventy sixers. Now i already have. The brooklyn nets winning the eastern conference. I just think that they are the best team. But if there was ever a team that i think with kyle lowry to what they already have. That could almost the balance of power. I think philadelphia. Can get kyle lowry with ben simmons. Joel embiid and keeping seth curry. I think he's the kind of guy that would balance out their roster and give them exactly what they do not have which is a floor general and someone who can make hetty plays is a much more consistent shooter than danny green. Danny green probably has a better clip. 'cause he streaky but cow lowery could be the kind of guy he goes to philadelphia that is the most impactful trading the deadline. Well i'm just glad you didn't say the clippers because kyle lowry. Who by the way has had a more than a handful of dirty fouls in the last couple of years. You remember the bubble. He at told aaron gordon after a cheap shot. When aaron gordon's like what the f. blah blah blah. John a fight him kyle. Lowry said his room number. You could see the audio. He's like yeah. Come to my room. Kyle lowry goes to the clippers. Their as dirty as the eighties. Bad boy pistons. Kyle lowry the morris twin. Goon patrick beverley. Oh goodness that would been. I listen that would have been ugly for the lakers. If they can get kyle lowry. But yeah i would agree with you if he goes to the sixers. Simmons embiid yeah. That's that's a nice package now. Miami heat i i just. I'm not coming off tyler hero for kyle lowry. I'm just not doing that. Well quietly crept up to fourth in the In the east and let's chicken tyler. Herro seven aright season fifteen a game. Five boards three assists shooting. Ooh yeah. He's struggling shooting forty one percent thirty one from three of a bit of a sophomore slump. Perhaps duncan robinson Also not even hitting forty percent from the heater tough position because they're three young guys are going to have to get paid that's hero it's none. That's duncan robinson. Okay hold it hold it hold up go ahead bam adebayo or did he already appeared. He got paid already super back or his. Max you can't keep none robinson and that's why you you need to consolidate them at some point now. I'm not saying to consolidate in for kyle. Lowry are especially one year at a thirty plus year. Thirty plus age calorie. But at some point you've got to make a decision because what. Joe harris did as being a guy who does nothing was shoot three pointers which is exactly. What duncan robinson did. And i think he's getting sixteen or eighteen million dollars a year so that very quickly goes from duncan robinson tyler hero and kendrick nunn all making combined. Fifteen million to these guys are making combined sixty million And they're good but they're not that good so they they gotta find a way at some point to flip at least one of them into something else. I mean i guess if i had i mean tyler herro could get you the most in return but he would also be the biggest loss. 'cause i don't know about you. I think tyler hero one day. I'm not saying he could lead the league in scoring bradley beal but what he's been doing at what twenty years old twenty one. I think he's twenty one this year. Like who's to say. Rob we talk about this We probably don't talk about enough. The idea that players get better okay. Cool leonard was like coming off the bench in san antonio sixth man and emerged as an all. Nba player finals. Mvp accords stone. James harden came into the league. He's a six man he's a nice player. Yeah he's good. I mean historically great offensive player like everybody gets better. The question is how much better. And we don't know what he knows. The answer only the people inside the miami building. No tyler heroes work ethic. How bad does he want it. Let's james harden was a legendary party animal in houston and he still got better and got buckets and became an incredible. Mvp player. so i don't know i mean you look at hero you look at. None duncan robinson. I personally think it's easier to find. A duncan robinson or a kendrick. Nunn than a tyler. Herro taylor create his own shot. I mean we saw tyler hero. Give a lot of denia forty in a playoff game. I mean this guy was incredible. And i watch buddy behind of syracuse in this tournament. He's like a duncan robinson clone. Six seven slender white guy. Quick release we had casey jacobsen on the podcast last week. Who would be making millions of dollars if he were the nba. Now as opposed to the when he left stanford Twenty years ago. But yeah buddy bay is the new duncan robinson. There's no new tyler. Herro i i just he is a i. Don't want to say a unicorn. I'm not going that far. Like a luka doncic but i tyler heroes. I'm not trading him. Sorry i'm not putting him in any package for almost anybody at this point. I mean within reason are the lakers making a move raji So it depends. I mean the the broads injury kind of complicates things you know because they need to stay above water a little bit. They can't go to and thirteen in the games that he's out so i the problem is they don't really have the assets. So unless they're going to trade tailing horne tucker which again klutch sports guy. So you know you got to run that by lebron i. And if the broncos traded treat him touchable. I don't i don't think they would trade him for anything. I think that the only guys on their roster that that have any kind of value would be maybe kyle coups mobile that poison pill because he just signed his contract hours caruso. I don't think kentavious caldwell-pope has played well enough to have any valued you'd have to actually attach more stuff to him just to get rid of him so i think they're more likely to be active on the bio market than they are to make a trade. I still think they have the pieces all right. Well that does it for. Today's show a lot of college basketball. I don't have any sweet sixteen picks for you just yet. I'm going to let some of these. Numbers marinate obviously. What is the nba. Trade deadline rupp thursday. I'll go sell tickets at noon eastern or pacific. Yeah we will so Yeah we'll we'll try to line up some good guests to talk maybe a little more. Nca tournament but certainly nba. We still haven't done a postmortem on. Nfl free agency. But that's coming. In the meantime stay safe. 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Full Show (Anthony Davis + LeBron James, Lakers' championship hopes, Kawhi Leonard, Pelicans)

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Full Show (Anthony Davis + LeBron James, Lakers' championship hopes, Kawhi Leonard, Pelicans)

"Welcome to the undisputed podcast. I'm your host Jenny Taft. This podcast is the full show from today's episode of undisputed from start to finish. They've got a busy slate. So skip Shannon. Let's get to it. Welcome to didn't live from office Angeles, everybody. Good morning. I'm Jen nail. Here was skip Bayless and the goat. I think it's Shannon Sharpe. Good morning. To go. I got a question. Yes. Liar. Are we celebrating? Michael Jordan today. Did he do keep Kimba? I don't know what did he do. We're talking about the goat, right? Why would you let me have my moment? Wait a second. Are we still reaching back for the same tired, lame defunct argument that you had to give up last year? In that what we get club shave back open. Now, we something happened Saturday night. And you were tweeting busy tweeting, I need to stop tweeting on a Saturday night. You should've been taking her every night, you should be Turkey, Ernestine out, you can ask her. I tweeted from the dinner table from the restaurant table. I tweeted five times, and she said, when are you going to stop? Yes, I go to stop when he stops. So you're still trying to convince me that the king of the couch potatoes is the goat. He missed the playoffs and it will miss it. Oh, I hope not. Are you telling me that the goat needs help Schiavo you looking real goat doesn't need any help? Hell, doesn't she bring into look Larry Rancho p twenty twenty? I got your does that paramedic right here, one here to you got the call the paramedics. Really? Yeah. Well, guess who's that who's the brand name on that Otonnu? Oh, he handled too. I got good stuff Jan prepare. I don't know if you want to get some good old stuff club, chez officially Bank open. We back in business skill you disappointed by sitting this right here. They'll use sample any of your wares before this show started. All we need to know. I don't know. I have here. The more you're demo Yami garment. Yeah. They got him. No. Worry about what? About what he's got all those. I don't know, Big Eye candy them. Okay. You ready? You know what I'm gonna let you have your fake moment right now because this is all you're going to have. Next question we go into title mixture really wanted to? The lakers. Are you a cowboy fan? Go do this on my band Lakers, Lakers will win the title next year. Really I will fifty cases the do own it right now. Donte cases is writing accepted. Fifty cases on the Lakers winning the done. Okay. Thank you. You'll be sorry. I'm gonna have to swimming pools, and biller. Thank you. Have you we go all to do that? I lost at all down case they win the fifty that means I'll be good. We got this back in one fell swoop that trade that Shannon is so excited about this morning, Anthony Davis, finally to the Lakers deal BoJ reporting, this weekend, the pelicans agreed to trade eighty for Lonzo ball, Brandon Ingram Josh art, and re purse round fix including the fourth overall pick in Thursday's draft the Lakers. Of course, tried to apply a before February's trade deadline with the pelicans just weren't dealing now with David Griffin at the helm in New Orleans. The two sides have reached a deal Shannon Lakers, pelicans, one this trade. I like the Lakers I like the liquor side of because you understand what, what had to have how take place, once the emotion with taking out of it, because David Griffin came in and he was not as emotionally invested mostly tied to this is Dale and miss Benson was previously. And I think one of the things that David Griffin convey to her is that ma'am, we must take the best deal possible. Take the emotional side out of it. And if this presents us the best deal in order for us to build a championship, then I think we should take it, once he stepped back and look at what he could gather reports are Boston was unwilling to include Jason Tatum in any deal. Really, if you come down to it really only two teams that really play. It seemed to be the Celtics and the Lakers and the Lakers had the packet, you know, skimp that when you get a player of this caliber, and they don't come vailable often. We saw Corrine. Hey, we remember who Corinne with actually traded for? No. Because he wouldn't five titles. And so he made it up Salih the last player of this magnitude to become available. Maybe a shack, but skip shack was the free agent. So they gave up no compensation, but if Shaq had been on the market, what would someone have given? What would they have been willing to forfeit to order to get his services? So for the Lakers to say, well, this is what we're going to give up this what we're willing to give up because they're window skip is right now is your seventeen your eighteen year nineteen if LeBron James within your nine I would say the Lakers, your foolish to give up this young talent, but he's not in your night, he's going into your seventeen. So right now, if they're window right now, if they're tune ity to go maximize LeBron James. And if you get LeBron James on your roster, you maximize him you put whatever it takes. You move heaven and earth in need be in order to surround him with the player that he's gonna need to compete for championship. Told you Friday, odd came out with gate, had to Golden State Warriors, I say on what planet now all of a sudden they like eight or nine who did I tell you on Friday should be number one's getting it? If you don't mind me, asking you told me the previous Friday and you tell me every Friday they should number one. They are. And they are now skill. This is a very unique individual, Anthony Davis, if you look at here, six in the league his last little, see that he played because this year would look herky-jerky becomes a what transpired. He was twenty eight eleven two point six Shaquille O'Neal, six season, in the NBA. He was twenty eight eleven and two point four. Now, I'm not saying that he's going to be shocked because you have to understand skip in a six season shack did not win the title. It was ninety ninety nine no two thousand one two. I think they won the title. So. Today, also three of the last five years. He's been first team. All NBA Jack become I team all the until nineteen ninety eight. So this is the type of talent that they're dealing with skip. I believe the Lakers won this talent because we needed the flower that had already blossom, we'll let the pelicans plant those seeds with Lonzo with BI in this fourth when the pick and we'll see what they become biride now there's a six foot ten and a half inch roles that's fully blossom, beautiful thing to see. Okay, my turn. I will give you this much. I did like this trade for your Los Angeles Lakers, but I loved it for New Orleans. I'm going to give the edge here to New Orleans even though there are a lot of variables in play because we don't know if they're gonna flip the number four pick into an established star, or maybe just starter or they can keep it and use it on whom we don't know. So I need to have in there to future draft picks and play that could be highly significant, but they're so far out that we can't sort of factor them into today's equation. I don't know what you're swapping pick three there. There's one that could could swap with to go all the way up to twenty four and twenty five maybe twenty six they can defer. It's too complicated. Even talk about, but there are two first round picks sitting on the back end of this deal. So I liked it for the Lakers simply because the laughing stock lay. Cours got the deal done. I thought they'd get it done at the trade deadline. I saying, I don't know what's not to, like here del Dem's was not delay to mostly involved is because I'm gonna soom. He could have had Lonzo BI coups MMA zoo Botts sounded like those on the table, heart, and Josh art may, you could throw him in, if I don't even know if they had room for John chart, but you could have had him but the number four pick is highly valuable in that obviously wasn't in play yet death, what the turning point because nobody thought the lake of would have because they were thinking somewhere, maybe it could be higher six here might be thirteen. But now all of a sudden it's the fourth. Okay. So I liked the trade for your Lakers, because I believe it was, I told you this on Friday, AD or bust. It was do or die on acquiring a superstar via trade because now I can't see how they're going to sign another superstar. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the cap has shr. Trunked to such a point that I'm pretty sure it's gonna be twenty three point. Eight million is twenty seven and they're gonna wanna find a draft pick three point seven one four million train bonus so that apply to way. That's an interesting point conflict of interest here. A clutch sports client, juicy that the CEO of clutch sports is LeBron James. I official. Ficials. Oh, wait a second. Rich Paul represents who his bread is buttered, mostly by LeBron James. Right. So why wouldn't LeBron benefit from getting AD, the quote unquote, client to waive his four million dollar trade kicker because it will just go right up against your it will increase it to twenty seven point seven million, hold on skip. I don't want you wait eighties going to actually sabotage his own little. Hey, well, I'm asking does highly significant right. Hold on. There's two points off back on you. So LeBron James stays out of this. Lebron James is a client of Klux, that's first and foremost, who, who funded clutch with a who we gotta start, but we got the ball rolling so Rich Paul us. But anyway, skill smells funny. So I just wanna make sure so for moving forward a team can only have one player that's only represented by one. Client, you can't have multiple. Clients on a team represented by the fine with me. But I'm just asking why wouldn't the inferior client because he still. I wouldn't waive is four million so that the superior client could have a chance in your seventeen to win one more championship where we win it would help we will win to the seventeen year. But that's and. Eight neither here nor there. That's everywhere what you're trying to do what you're trying to do is do we just? Fifty. We go one hundred on gonna row, we got fading. Don't sometime unforeseen snapped with well, you said it. I see what you're trying to do. I'm not trying to do anything. I'm just repeating the fact. Oh, the trying to sold this decision. Oh, the IMF while when the imperial client, why wouldn't disappear your client, which is LeBron James, this CO? Why would he tell be inferior clan to forego, his forgo his four million, so instead of half when three point seven we have all sudden, you're in the ballpark of maybe you could know choir somebody if significant we're not it, because Rich, Paul being worth every into that five point nine hundred forty pounds worth every grain of salt that getting paid. Okay will not allow his class to give back money. Okay. So you're going to give up next year's championship because I don't know who else is going to start. I like Kouzmin by the way, I like to trade because they hung onto calc who's my will give you that. And he's really good at catching and shooting. Lebron's passes for three point shots give you that. They have good dynamic good good sort of Tim street. Just a good connection, the twin to, if you can just see it and coups MS is when LeBron James passing ball, he thinks he's going to make that shot. So I love that for you. But I don't love the rest of the team because again, there was runaway trains on Twitter and all social media on Saturday night of let's go get number two. They weren't saying number two, but you know who I'm talking about or let's go, get Kimba. You can't get them with twenty three point seven million on the cap. We go over the counter, but here's the things get for me. I would rather take that money, and maybe go get ready. Okay. Maybe go get Jeremy lamb start to fill in those pieces. Okay. You're going to fill in those pieces around two stars not three star. Okay. Now that's going to bring you back to earth. So yes, it will because you're, you're not going to get the significant over the top free agent where you're gonna have a super team. No. You don't have a super team, super team. You got a got. We got to aging superstar year seventy who pulled his groin or whatever last year. And he missed a whole bunch of games. And he went twenty eight and twenty seven in the game. And we saw okay, he pulled his growing at the going to straight NBA, eight straight NBA finals. And we saw what happened to got. We would have to a guy that went to three straight and what happened to him. And then another guy that went to five grade. Okay. What happened to him by guy, went to, as straight may tweak this growing, but he'll be healthy as ever twenty nineteen and he stay healthy as ever, and we're gonna find out, certainly going to find out, would you? Would you rather them take that twenty seven million? Let's just say say good argument just for this hypothetical. Our say AD four goals in four million dollars. Now they have thirty two million. Would you rather them have another superstar at thirty million or three or four players that you can build out the roster with for that thirty two million? Well, I don't know. I think I'd rather have a star and then just mix and match whatever I had left on minimums just. Minimum contracts. If you told me they went and got number two or two, Jimmy Butler out they commissioned allow that I don't the commodity Adam civil will allow, you would to know you on slate allowed Kevin Durant Goldstone skip LeBron. James kuwa- in Anthony day. So it wouldn't be over what you be to win be over. Well, one guy's jamming it by guys over the hills. Seventy five and seven that would be the record seventy five and seven. Can we bet like a thousand? We got. No. But, you know, Kawagoe need low management. Lebron go take a night here and there. So if you had those three with Anthony Davis, you'd have three guys with questionable basketball backbones, you know, whether you ought to stop, I'm going to get to that. And just a minute. Let me finish on your pelicans, because you cover the pelicans what they just got a twenty one year old who I've told you from the start is going to be a star, and he just got out from under his father and Magic Johnson's legacy the laughing stock Lakers and his hometown. And he gets to start fresh in New Orleans, unless they flip him with the pick to somewhere else. But wherever he goes, he's going to become a transcendent star twenty one years of age and he will come back to haunt that those colors, you're wearing right now, Laker nation will be haunted by him from here on out in less LeBron and a deacon win the championship next year. That was the that's the only way you can you can invalid. Date Lonzo ball. That's the only way no. Here's this. That's the way you invalidate. Any is that will do you know who actually went to San Antonio for kuwa-. Because co I made it to league by winning the title. It doesn't matter about the and it doesn't matter about portal. It doesn't matter about the twenty eighth or twenty nine hundred thirty. It doesn't matter about any of that because he cancelled it out. If AD brains that title to the Lakers. It doesn't matter what they do mission accomplished. Okay. Then New Orleans also acquired another twenty one year old who got his fire lit last year by Magic Johnson. I dunno Brandon Ingram. Suddenly just caught fire. He had four games in a stretch over thirty game. He had some huge games. He had thirty six against Philadelphia thirty one against a really good Milwaukee defensive team. And I saw flashes of stardom from Brandon Ingram. And now he's in New Orleans you like that. But that's the problem skip. You keep seeing flashes at some point in time. You know, when Akil flashlight, keep flashing in and out, it's telling you about that really his batteries to shy at all the time. And by the way, they have had injury risks obviously. Twenty one year olds but Brandon Ingram reportedly is one hundred percent healed from his blood clot issue. And what did lavar ball? What did he sit right here and tell us about the Lakers? He kept saying, I don't like the way they're training their training. They fired by trainer. Okay. So I would say starting over in New Orleans it's going to be really good for Lonzo ball. I will bet you. He will stay far healthier next. Well, if you don't mind me asking libra, Lonzo ball has been in the league for two years, eighty to eighty two fifty four. If my math serves me correct, I wasn't a meme anything. So I'm not Benjamin Banoco is Dan. So sometimes my math. Big is coming. Go. Lonzo ball played ninety nine games in two years. Now, if the mass, you can play one fifty four you play ninety nine you tell me right at the top of your head. How many games they missed that trainer got fired it all you need to know that invalidates, your art, also we go put everything on the trail. We are he just got fired and lavar predicted it and. He predicts a lot of things we're gonna talk about a lot of other lavar predictions in just a moment here. But the point is New Orleans also got the number four overall pick, which seems to be growing in value, so they could flip that. I don't know there. There are lots of runaway speculating stories about Lauri Markkanen, the bulls whose seven footer who can really. Shoot three's thirty six percent from nineteen and nine and his favorite players who skipped. I don't know do. No, let's James every kid's favorite player. But the problem with these two stud, Laker kids stone LeBron burn the bridge to both Patty still, I don't know how they must be looking side. Ida Kouzmin right now. Oh, you're going to stay with the guy who wanted to trade you laugh at your Kim. You like that. What does that tell you? Okay. Lonzo and Coors came in the same draft BI is a year came in a year earlier. And the Lakers said, okay, we got no problem. But we want to hold on the coups. So what does that tell you from what they've seen over the last two years, the gather shown the most improvement in the most potential to be what they think he can be Cal there. But the report was they just liked him because he was more of a Laker than the other two kids he bought in. He was more face of the franchise. He represented in the well. And apparently he got right over LeBron winning to trade him. So they wanted to keep him. So I will give that so that what you won't you want somebody that got that kind of mindset you keep talking about back ball. I can't tell the other two as you mentioned, your voice. They didn't get over. Interesting. So the New Orleans pelicans will be must see TV next year because obviously again take Zion number one overall. And I just have a sneaking suspicion that Julius Randle who did opt out of his nine million. I he might opt back in for fifteen or eighteen. Well, he won't more day he might want to be with the winner. It would be all the ex Lakers, Julius Randle, seventh overall in two thousand fourteen and then be I was second overall in twenty sixteen Lonzo was second overall in twenty seventeen. And Josh Hart was a first round pick. He was thirty overall. I didn't even throw him in, but he just, he's just a gutty. Huger player Novick kid who knows how to play he's a little older than the other two. But I like him as a gut, same glue guy. So you throw the two future picks on top. That's quite. If you don't mind me asking. Lonzo BIA that fort dodge, which one of those guys go play better defense and Anthony Davis better defense and oh how about Lonzo ball? How about right now? New Orleans just might have the best defensive back court in all of basketball, drew all day. Lonzo ball both. Gotcha won his position. He plays at least as big as the other guy plays his position, at least as as us forty three percent from the free throw lab. More career any shot twenty nine percent from the pre point line so bed so far, he shot forty two percent from the three point line at UCLA. Oh you go back. You told me the farthest we can go back one year. We need to get out from under dad and magical about that. In a few. He's going to have a big frills Carl you telling me Lonzo ball. It defensively is equivalent of Anthony Davis is that what you tell about his position? He will be you better already as middle already. He is shutdown perimeter. Do realize the end of the day was a twenty six twelve and two and a half four career. What am I told you about Anthony Davis since the show started? What if I told you over, you is not a difference maker? He is a PE are prince. He's been top four four times. He won at one time and New Orleans record over all those years of seven years, was two hundred sixteen and two fifty New Orleans playoff record with Anthony Davis, the game changer was five and eight. Well, we've not good enough. Something missing in their he's a complimentary star. So now he's not a closer LeBron's obviously, not a closer because he couldn't close it all last year. Who's your closer helped me out recording this are you telling me that Zion Williamson would be? Better NBA player than Anthony Davis. Yeah. Down. It's gonna take a while. How about Davis awhile? He got hurt and be this. I've been on the record consistently about this complimentary star. I think you'll be a good fit with LeBron but the two of them together they need an alpha. They need a closer, my guts guy. They need a van fleet. My God knows what it takes to win. What have you? What is I on would what does I want? The championship as a true freshman, which are you talking about? Oh now you got a new guy that guy. Oh, you already know this represents three and sixty goatman got me. Yeah. And he would be two and seven. Don't do that. Goatman. Oh now everybody wanna talk about. Okay. D- got injured. Oh, Klay got injured. But I'd to hear that energy when carrying injured when Kevin. Love got engine not here. None of that energy talking now in what happened. He lost came. To Steph her. He loves okay? We're not talking about Steph curry, and you know what you are. Gloat man, gloat man man globe man be re mature while we're talking about injuries to did for Aaron Nelson a renowned longtime. Aw. Aw. Revamp that. Sure it may boom guys on the court next ROY. Roy j. Much more to talk about lavar ball, you know, he had a strong take on this train up next. Ways core. Pool is not a bus ways core. Pool is not a taxi ways core pool is not the metro in DC writers ways core. Pool is not a slug line. 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So obviously, the Lakers need to say goodbye, Lonzo ball because of that, blockbuster, Anthony Davis strait, Mons two seasons in LX, certainly made a lot of headlines. So many of them were about his dad. No surprise here, lavar, not happy when asked about the deal. Take a listen. Say, it'd be the worst move to make evidently life never win. Another championship guaranteed. Regret it. Woody. His crowd total was crashing down now in completely crashed. But leased before face loading again. Chains can wind it and go back and I said, if you get the three ball, others, you're going to survive this. You let them go. Be a cold day. You never wonder where lavar ball stands. I'll say that China, what did you make of this? And this is the response that we expect it from lavar ball. I don't understand why he's obsessed get remember when he was I here, and we try to explain to him, why Lonzo would be upset that someone took one point five million. Will he still has his family? Oh, she's whole it. Yeah. Yeah. He stole he stole the money from lavar was, like I tried to explain him. There's no reason to have a motion. There's no reason to be upset. So I'm trying to figure out if Lonzo still has his family. He's still balling. He's still can eat y LA borrow said. Oh, it sounded good more. I'm hard. I don't have emotion. This is this is natural. I'm not surprised that he's disappointed that he that is son is traded. But the way he viewed his son was irrationally high, the way the lake of you son is expendable. Okay. That's why he was included in the trade. That's why his name, always came up now that might be two fold skip, maybe every time they broke the subject. Maybe some other teams that we won't Lonzo. That's a good thing. But it's also the Lakers had no problem got gave them. No push. They never said one time now Lousa will not be included in any trains. They would gladly willingly get a glad to give him up skip. The thing is, let's be real. Lonzo with flawed up into play a currently his ability shoot free throws his ability to consistently make outside shots. Make him a berry law player. Those are things that may be at over tied, you work, and you can get better at I never understood, his dad telling telling us oh, I can teach a lawns. How to eighty five percent free throw shooter. Well, why the hell don't you I can teach him how to be this good three pointer? Why don't you? Well, I happen loot skip that made no sense to me. But you and I both know from the very beginning, he said, a lot of things. And I'm not so sure that if it were, if his name was Lonzo Johnson, he'd win the number two pick in the draft. But his dad hyped among his dad wrote checks that Lonzo at this present time can't cash, and he was included trade, but the response that we got from the bar is what we expected to get from the bar. I just. Wish, hopefully law gets healthy. He finds his MIT any plays to the level that you think he can. He will before. I dress each. The points, lavar made in this interview I wanna go big picture, Saturday. You'll look back and say was the best day of Lonzo ball's life because it did set him free from the most pressure and expectation that has ever been over heaped on any eighteen year old ever coming out of college. I realize LeBron had a lot of pressure on him. But it wasn't like this pressure because he didn't have a hype man, high artist saying he's immediately going to be better than Steph curry or everyone rose. Yeah. Everybody in the target on this kid's back in and he's a good kid. He he's, I think he has a toughness to him. But, but I think he got completely overwhelmed by Magic Johnson saying one day. Number two will be raised in. This is a good number two, the that lonzo's number two will be raised into the Laker Rafter so long house conference, I'd say because that's if Magic Johnson puts that target on your back. And then your father is just hyping in, like crazy hyping like, like insanely hyping you to the point that Patrick Beverley on opening night, just destroys the poor kid and keeps pointing to the father and the stance. It's your fault. This is about us, lavar. Well, how do you overcome that as a rookie point guard point guards, the hard position to learn transition and to have to have that burden on your back every night? And then try to learn how to play with LeBron. They're not a great fit. I thought they lately weather will. But, but again, they play the same position LeBron is at his best at his greatest when he is bringing the ball up the floor in orchestrating. He was born to do that. He's still the best passer in basketball. He's still the best three point passer to two snipers, and marksman didn't have many last, you know, obviously, but maybe any, any Kouzmouk would make some occasionally and then Casey, it makes them occasionally, and then they get Reggie Bullock and he'd made a couple year there. I don't know. But it wasn't what I thought it was going to be, or you thought it was going to. But again, that was untapped potential of LeBron last year because he can see over defense at six nine and throw skip passes completely across a wide open snipers. That's how they played in Cleveland they weren't able to do that. Am I okay in Miami? So again, Lonzo LeBron non not the best mix, but they're both so high Q that they figured it out together. I think they kind of vibe off each other enjoy playing, and I'm gonna say this again, Lonzo made some big three's last year under under clutch pressure when you gotta make it. He's good at gotta make it varies. Okay. So now the one thing I've learned about lavar ball, you can laugh and scoff. All you want. But it's hard to know when the bluster stops in the insight starts, because there is some insight from him. And he has made prediction, sitting right here on the show that made you just open your eyes, such as a Magic's, just the figurehead now is, we said that what three months ago on the show any, we actually before actually proven to be proven to be true. Well, so are there things in here that, that might be close to the truth, if not the truth? Yeah. Because lavar is he's a shrewd operator but he has he has depth to him in, if you will. Listen, if you can cut through all, the, the BS part, get to the truth. There's a lot of truth now he just mad that his son got trade album. And again, the one, the biggest impact that my biggest takeaway from this interview is now now Lonzo gets to go all the way, I don't know how far how far is New Orleans from here. Two thousand mile fifteen hundred dollars plane ride four hour plane ride from here. It's a long ways right here. Well now will lavar be at as many Lonzo games next year's he would be an LA. No. And maybe it'll be good for the kid just to break free and get out from under hidden. It's not as hometown per se, but it's home area, you know, hills just outside of LA get out from under this. There's no more magic. There's no more pressure. You can start fresh. I like Alvin gentry. I think he's good with kids. He'll, he'll teach him a lot of things that he hasn't quite learned yet. So, again, will my biggest takeaway, I think lavar is onto something here. I think the Lakers will forever regret trading this kid. And again, if you prove me, wrong, if they win a championship in the next two years, because I think too is, is all even you agree. That's all that LeBron's got left at MVP, caliber level, two more good years. Tam play skip. Seven to eighteen to be even a top ten player at year nineteen. It's getting that will be unprecedented. Hey, this kid is gifted. He's got things. You can't coach you can't teach. And you're going to see them more fully realized now in New Orleans, you don't mind me asking. As you the same thing. I would ask lavar ball of sitting here are the Lakers were the lake are the Lakers, better on Saturday or were they better on Friday. Obviously right here. And now if you add a proven star like Anthony Davis, you're a little bit better because was about. So what the hell was the balloon about? Okay. 'cause he talking crazy. Okay. He's saying that they have completely crash in as an organization. I think they have completely crap. They will hit fools me. Me too. But they there's somebody right at the wheel. I don't know who driving his Linda rambles, if it's Kurt Rambis, if his genie buses, rob Pelinka. But all I know is somebody corrected. They didn't correct. Because sometimes skiing there. It's getting off the roll. I'll move you been driving. Glenn say never jerk the wheel, never snatch it, eat thing. We'll talk with Dr a call. That's what. But anyway, somebody didn't over correct it because they could have overcorrected Mendy same outcome with happen. They corrected it just enough. They landed Anthony Davis, even if he takes his four million dollar trade exception skip, they still have twenty three million. You can buy a lot of good auxiliary pieces twenty look you keep saying, three guys three superstars? Toronto just told you. Toronto, route the dish. Oh, you get your one superstar and you get some role to play exceptionally well in a given game you can bring home, the title, not only do we have. Once it was got we got to Ashley, we have to the top player in the NBA currently going Kaleri made five all star team. If you'll superstar assault is the player all star a superstar. No, he's not Larry limits. You question name. Would you take how with a top fifteen or twenty right now? Shawl NBA players. Sure. How going top twenty yes, he would not. What do you mean if you put him in the draft? Right. If you said, okay here, four hundred NBA oh, I thought you if you put him in here. Four hundred NBA players currently playing take your pick go. I don't know. I'd have to put the pencil to that when I have to figure it out top thirty he goes twenty hey, he's a five time all stars hard to find those no good. Guess what he was the land play. Remember the NBA draft selected. The only twenty four who laugh with leg still win this year when David up team, LeBron James with the lean Bogan at one conference and an Kunpho great with the lebeau get. Okay. Who was the last elected? I can't remember but how many total all stars are there? Twenty four. Okay. Tell you could be top twenty four. Yeah. Well, twenty four twenty although everybody gets to the all star game are not superstars. Is he a superstar? You can be a star without being put that super in front. Those two guys is that what would the no look, scratch, ding, removing for whatever I want to see Anthony Davis anything. Elegant, no look knowledge, New Orleans that Iran has nothing. Okay, only okay. And I also need to point out that lavar ball was completely correct. He saw this from the start as did. I look Walton never bought into Lonzo ball. I don't know if he felt he was it was forced on it. And if he didn't like to hype, but right away. What did I keep coming into your pounding the desk, about that Luke would play him for five minutes in sitting until five minutes, we're left in the half? What? I will see bar kept saying, we gotta get Luke out of there. And guess what? They got LUKA not soon enough. They'd been trying to get Luke out for me. It's give the problem that I struggle with, with Lonzo Lonzo struggle with is long. If the game can get up and down. He's fine. Yep. He's struggled when you get the game into a half court set and a great point guard magic. Yeah. Magic with Showtime. But magic run the offense also in half court sin, so could outsail Soka Stockton. So that's Lonzo is going to have to revamp his game or two. It a pickup his game that because I don't care how great you are. How much you want to get up and down teeth will slow you down Tiv will make you play a half court sit and then Kenny do what he needs to get done. And that's where we see him struggle. But right now, I like to think the Lakers, one is trade a will you. Well, I think it had to be because the last lavar, quote, in this story that I read is about. Ron James, he doesn't actually say his name, but he says, in once you don't believe in him. Meaning LeBron doesn't believe in Lonzo because he wanted to trade him at the deadline, then it's hard to come back and be like, oh, you believe in me now will sell the bridge got burned, and I think it got burned to bring out my head to try to train me twice. Okay. Which is big as stars. These. All all. All pro. Wait. Never trade you on this show Maury. But you exhale. Anthony Davis and you try to train people who got a good question. I just want to trade your goat. That's all I'm putting it on EBay today. For big not a great way to start the show on a Monday run. Will you haven't been here long? We're going to do the show for rain, which preyed on rag is lots more to get to this morning, including should the Lakers. Now be the favorites to win at all. We're going to break that one down. Imagine this. The bases are loaded were down by two. It's the bottom of the ninth. And we're tired on. I, we've got high quality, low priced mattresses to free pillows on second and Afri mattress protector on third. There's only one player. We trust to get us this grand slam. Mattress firm right now during mattress firm's fourth of July preview sale, spend just five hundred ninety nine dollars and get to pillows and a mattress protector for free. Don't miss this homerun deal. No. A funny. What happens to your championship odds when you add a six time, all star the Lakers? Now the favorites to win next year's title after a green do trade for Anthony Davis, reportedly have interest in adding another star. Maybe quite kyri your Kemba, but only have room for another max contract, if they wait until July thirtieth to make this trade official bucks, clippers and rockets are behind the Lakers with the best title odds. We are joined by s one NBA analyst, Chris Broussard. Good morning. Thanks for me. All right. Should the Lakers. Be the favorite right now you agree with this, at this point. Unquestionably might Wellesz. I mean with what turns. Turn what we know right now you're not obviously Golden State with the injuries. You're not favoring them the clippers or the raptors a lot of that depends on what is do. Does he go to one of those two teams? Then they could maybe jump Milwaukee. Chris Middleton's of free agent brook, Lopez Malcolm brogden mirror, any honest, as good as he is he's an I still think he might have another season taken his lumps before he's ready to win a championship work on j a little bit more villa Delfi ally. I you know, we all know about Butler and Tobias Harris, but I'm taking LeBron AD any day, every day, all day over Joel Embiid, and Ben Simmons, Nari all day and then Houston, they're having all sorts of problems. We know that the coaching staff is new, you know, besides my dad Tony James harden. Chris Paul or. Right. So right now, this moment, I'm going with the Lakers. You mentioned it, what they do this summer is going largely depend on, if they can push his trae back to July thirtieth then. I don't know. Why would would go along? You know what it helps New Orleans? It does give New Orleans more cap space to back here. You need to figure out the fourth pick right here right now. And then I believe if they trade that, then the other team has the fourth big has something to say about it's a long shot. You're right. Let's say that happened my number one goal if I were the Lakers, if I get the max base skit, which I agree with you. They probably won't. I would go for. And I don't I think that's a long shot, but I have heard that if LeBron if LeBron got AD that why would seriously considered it. Like we have the guy across the table for me already going on the record on this show today that the Commissioner would kill that deal allow. No, it'd be gold stake. I mean he led golden stay happen. I just told him that go go to state of what they but she got three of the top five players. Look, it would be it would be what we just think. We got a little parody, right? We're Golden State kind of breaking up. No. This would be ridiculous. I don't care who the three years old. Well that's the other thing he's coming back with a vengeance. He's heard all the talk you just wanna make you vs on. You just wanna, you know, hang out in LA. You don't wanna win. Yeah. He's coming back with a vengeance and says, low management is the new thing they'll be some low management there. You'll be ready for the but let I I'm calling baloney LeBron. If you're watching right now, I'm calling baloney on your coming back with VIN really hauling, so not a great season. I just might I'm not doing it right now. He might be my preseason. Maybe mail. We got lavar ball. Maybe. But here, here's something smarter than because again, I don't think they're getting Kawai kyri. I mean, if he wants to come out and think he will. I don't think that's, that's a long shot if he wants to come, I wouldn't turn down. But to the point, we might well, because here's the thing, I think it might be wiser to use that money to get a few guys. How about that Beverly? Patrick Barry will be right near the top of my list. Okay. You need some guards could shoot it. Do we know that Jada lamb guys like Jeremy lamb Drake Lopez? Bogan bogdonovich. I don't know if he might be too expensive like him a lot. But I've got he's right stuff. He he's my live. I guess read except curry curry, that's another one down. I got on. Let's just do. Let be the only uncapped team, you can have all those guys you can have no roster. You get thirty guys on your. I want to go out. He want to go you. I let you go you go. He they they gotta be the favorites. Give you know, go at least right now. So my friend, Chris Broussard, says unquestionably, they should be the favorite and I've got them if I do best case scenario for every team the west I got them, the fourth best west. The west in the west south aren't it? Let's start it. Let's go back to Golden State shall we give what if they obviously, they're going to have Steph and clay, what if they do resigned? Damarcus cousins. He's pretty good. We saw flashes a brilliant. I think they will. And what if clay has got that Adrian Peterson? I've seen it on the court. What if it gets backed by I don't know February March, and then he's ready for the playoffs best undoing best case for each team. What if those four guys are healthy enough to go in the in the playoffs? You don't think that's a formidable force, right? There is still is I'm sorry, it is. And you're getting scared. I just want to tell me to get going away. I just wanted to tell me to go do something with AD and Braun, which one of those guys are banged up a guy with a knee brace on clay. Woah guy that can't jump over a paper clip and book because you don't think DaMarcus can handle AD. They're pretty close. You don't think they practice against other? All they will have the chemistry. There's no question. They have the chemistry events that if Claes healthy okay? There's one guy in this league, I've learned for many, many years, not debate against and his name is Jerry West, and he is now overseeing the team next door to the Lakers clippers, and I don't know what they're gonna do. But they do have to max. Lots what if number two does join them? Then what if I don't know? Let's throw in Jimmy Butler. I don't know. And all of a sudden you still have Lou Williams and mantras Herrell and those that kid shea gilded. Alexander's. Nari in Landry Shamet who I've really liked him when he was a six or all of a sudden, I'm saying that teams a little better than the Lakers, aren't you do? I'm not doing anything you say if they, they got to match they do. I got wake up this morning. We don't get a whole nothing him. Okay. But they got to max lots and they got the best owner in the NBA this pocket, the wealthiest owner in the NBA. But guess what? Skip they got a hope we wake up breakfast table. When we see over there. We see LeBron over there. We gotta hope nothing. We see coups mover there. And then we see a bunch of empty slots everywhere. Okay. Well, we don't know how to fill, okay? What you gonna do the clippers. Okay. So you say shale exander and all these guys because you don't have you don't have. You don't have Jimmy buckets. You don't have anybody. Well, I'm just saying what if I'm doing best-case team, they're going to sign a couple of won't one. That we have to let somebody go to get that full second. All right. Whatever I think they'll get one guy, if that's go to the Houston Rockets shell. We give us all of a sudden everything opened everything changed when Kevin Durant went down for a whole year. Everybody's door reopened the Houston. Rockets door has reopened for one last hurrah. And after all the huffing and puffing, I'm gonna blow this house down from their GM, Daryl Morey. Why wouldn't you just sit back and say, okay, we were still pretty good with these guys. Let's just put it back together. Let's just keep the band together for one last run. So you got James harden. Chris paul. I know they are bickering as they walked off the floor after their big home close out loss. But if you keep Capelle, and Eric Gordon PJ Tucker resigned. Gerald green and Austin really spell. I still I still go. They'll probably stay together. Okay. They'll probably 'cause Chris Ball, you not. You can't trade him with that contract. Three one, but I will. I don't know up here. You know you can't up here. They did you just see Draymond green e cappella I. What do Capelle? Okay. Well, I didn't say they're going to win the west but I got them being a little better than Legos right now right now. Stop it stop landscape. Well, there, another one, you can look around and say who we got right now? They're all they're all there. A mess. And then couldn't be in couldn't be going to stay without. K. D O your home court who can't beat that team except Toronto the Toronto because Klay kept getting hurt. What is it? Now the all the healthy. Got two guys you'll bailiffs of the top five in a four hundred NBA we got to top the table right now. Okay. And I'm not going to write off the Denver Nuggets 'cause I think they're loaded young team. And they will get nothing but a little better better and a little bit. Watch reviews them. Take it off a four C L, take forthright on. And listen, you can say all you want about Embiid and Ben Simmons. They are to nuclear weapons, if they are healthy and right. They can do damage, then you know that he got it. He better be in the gym right now. One got cash, we got kids, you for me to the camera guy. The other guy came stay healthy. He got stomach issues. I don't really got all the person I've seen with more stomach gets you be to the baby. He got what problem to the baby stomachs betas, and you know that. So see you say if they are right in their healthy. Guess what? Chris, we wake on to three and twenty one eighty go get this. And I'm telling you number twenty three bench core. Excuse says maverick. No. Ball, screaming bring it really is. I got him not. You will take it for me at may or may not hail. There's a possibility deemed with him. Don't worry about it. He said, Shannon, I'm coming back with capital engine swallowed at home that communication. I may or may not have communication with. All right. That's a possibility. I don't know with Anthony Davis and he's coming back with a vengeance Mitch. Oh, he's on. Yeah. Title. To one NBA source that I've known for a long time. And you what he told me about Anthony Davis. He said he's going to have a hard time in Hollywood because he'll get caught up in the Hollywood glitz, glamour, heal our time with it. I'm just telling you what he told me. So I'm throwing that you guys told me LeBron's, come back with a vengeance will have a hard time in the glitz and glitter of Hollywood plays. I forget. I forget thousand law long way from the. That would be, I think he's going to learn a lot from the brand. I think the number one thing he's gonna learn is taking care of your body. We know he's been injury prone. That's all skill. He's going to learn from the Brown. There's a reason there's, it's not just to get to the Lakers, that he went with clutch, he sees how they do business. I think those guys will be good for him in terms of helping him mature, as well. And he's already else going to learn if LeBron struggles he will take all the heat LeBron it would always the K with to happen. I'm out in count the time on both hands and sixteen year struggle. But when he LeBron have an off night, we got six ten and a half that we know that averages for career twenty six twelve and two and a half. He's only sixteen. Can I enter you? And that's not dominating is right? I mean that's not exactly Corinne side. I have to say hardly agrees with you, as they are not ha- an absolute lock. Please know that roster counties players right now certainly some big holes to know. Every. Either way. Chris, thanks so much for being here. We really appreciate it. All right. We'll the raptors convince quiet stay in Toronto or will he be in play for some of these other that one? Why Leonard lead Toronto to their first and BA title last week. And during the course of that earned finals envy honors but quite can now become a free agent and a few weeks. Here's Fred van lead on trying to keep coli in Toronto. There's nothing more that we can do. I mean we've done it the city's done it. This franchise done it the coaches have done it teammates of done that we've done our job. We came here and did what you're supposed to do. So he brought this city championship. And I think he's earned is his freedom in his career to do what he wants to do, and we'll all respect and, and, you know, if Meyer them and if he's another teen when just had to kick his ass, and make sure but ho- hopefully he'll be back. What do you think about badly? It's comments. Do you like them agree with everything you just said, there's nothing more, he can do the wo- the year went better? I don't care what Leonard said about coming in there when he reported that he call Kyle Lowry. Instead, I know you're disappointed that they traded your best friend, but I'm gonna come in there and let's work. Let's, let's do this. The year went better than they possibly hope for. They came up with a plan of how they were going to work with how they were going to treat his injury the quad injury. He wasn't gonna play back to back skip. They giving him as a van fleet mentioning that Nestle. 'sound by they done everything they can do cO, while litter probably when they go on the road, he probably have the presidential suite whomever. He wants to travel on the team plane. Dan is Susan could Mary, they're probably on the plane. They've done everything. His teammates have been more than accommodating, even when they were wide open and wounded in passing the ball. That's a great shock. Why they've been over backwards for him? There's nothing else they can do as he mentioned, quieter in the right by bringing this team title by being a free agent. He's played out his contract. He's earned the right to do what he's gonna do scale. But I do believe this. Excuse me winning that title makes it a lot harder. Also, what makes it harder turn it out five years, one, ninety one as opposed to go over market getting four years. But one, forty now that's about fifty million less, plus the thirty million that he lost not getting to fifteen from from San Antonio. So now looking at a possible eighty billion dollar swing. Okay. Give it his injury history. I don't know if you can bypass that. So you know what I waited, I'll go somewhere else signed a one year deal. And then I can sign a long term deal with more money. I don't know of quiet gonna be willing to roll the dice giving his injury history. I think they are the better chance. I think there's a sixty forty chance he stays in Toronto because they can keep this thing together. At least for one more year, all Marcus all has to do with pick up his player option, the only other guy that's free is Danny, Danny green other than that they bring back the Arkham nudity. Comes back surgery. Baca is their plea just signed to reside resigned, his contract. So they can keep this thing together for one more year skip. I don't know if I'm I do a one year deal, unless wait and see giving his injury history. I'm going to just five one ninety whatever going to stay up in Toronto. You're gonna stay for five years when a about on this. No, no, no. I'm just saying. That's what you would what I would do given my injury history. Okay. He missed seventy three games. He missed another twenty two this year. You mentioned how many times five games here. Eight games there ten games. That's a lot of games. Get you make many good points. In fact, you make about eighty million two points across the table. I believe, number two will stiff the raptors just the way he's stiff the spur Stephan yet. Is it stiff? And he just needed some place to land for year, and it all fell into place. It was all meant to be Embiid got sick, and he got hurt, and then Klay got heart, and then Kevin Durant got really hurt and that was the end of that deal. And, you know, and I know Klay Thompson and not gone down and game six we would have had a game seven, and we'd be sitting here today talking about the new NBA champions. No, it's the old Indian. The Golden State warrior that happened. At home. No stunk it up and disappeared at home. A whole bunch played much better on the road. So. I cannot tell you how impressed I was by what I listen to this whole soundbite. Fred van bleed is become the unsung leader of this team. He was the closer for this team. Huby Brown made a case that he should have been the finals MVP for this team because of these two way job that he did one on Steph curry and also on making all the big fourth quarter shots on offense. And I love how he laid this out because. It sounded to me like he was a little tired of this narrative of, we're going to crawl and we're going to beg coli, because they've been crawling and begging this whole year long and they've been giving him all that he wanted to all your points, you want, you want this, this, and even went, so your book, what you're gonna do. Yeah. And what was the dining thing downtown kaline dining, or whatever it was called the initiative, or you never have to pay for another meal, then Siachen seemed a little offended because he was talking about somebody's supposedly, gave him a house, or a lot housing penthouse, and we're where's my house, and he was kind of half kidding. But he was half kidding. He's like a wettest second. I I'm pretty good to do. I get out here. The past two years. You've got whipped well he was. Took they took your house away from you coulda had won the previous two years. Okay. So my favorite line of yesterday came from Fred vanfleet? We just saw that if number two is on another team that we just have to kick his ass next year. He chuckled because everybody else start chuckling. But when he said it he wasn't he didn't mean it with the smile kidding about it. Oh. My members little boggy here. Celebrating amnesia couple of that thing you everything you ever knew. I with Fred band plead on those two teams they got swept by LeBron, the team, they had a superstar and guess well, he was an undrafted free eight months. I two year and guess what? He was an undrafted free Jimmy year, three and guess what he would have been new to been undrafted free in your three not without a title. Not got a why you should get what you try to did LeBron James make the classes. I can't remember. Get all amny. We'll talk about the a I'm talking about right now. Because what you guys try to do y'all try to jettison him what you try to do a you'll Spurs y'all tried to send him Siberia. But what he did was set up shop found oil again. What he's rich didn't Jay clampett. Well, is he going to strike, it rich again, in Toronto or is he coming to either LA or New York because I'm not really out really out where Dennis lives up in New Jersey? So you got nets Knicks. That probably know okay. Oh, you'll be stab. You'll be what's he gonna do play for free for the grew up, Laker fan, O, J three, you get all twenty three twenty three twenty three point seven? The Catholic, we got an we can make some insurances under the table. Will if he said, I will come if you can get AD to waive his trade kicker. The four million. Yeah. 'cause I want his four million. Okay. Then we do we do that. Okay. Yeah. We'll be happy with that get you would he fire his representation over that he might hollow the best representation ever, had one Rich Paul. Because AD made it abundantly clear. He no longer wanted to be New Orleans, and he wanted to come to LA, and he felt the guy that could skip thing. If you're divorce if you get a divorce in Beverly Hills, you go a mardi singer. You go. See law Wasserman. What you do you get the best wanted to leave. I wanna know what I know. He he wanted to bed. I wanna leave New Orleans. I want to go to this nation that destiny. Let me think who can get there. Oh, one Rich Paul mall stature skill. But you know what? Sports Illustrated all long. It says kingmaker made LeBron veins, everything that he is. Here you go. You always trying to sell dissension. Well. The five horsemen. We will let you come between you the fissile field would LeBron rich Randy, math and Shannon, but we ride tough. Well, so what are what I tell you about crime pays as in basketball. But guess what it doesn't pay financially for number two because now he's going to move for a second time and in his salary just gonna plummet plummet. So maybe you should have stayed in San Antonio. Could you didn't want to get mad match play gonna have to leave this one here because you guys could go back and forth over this morning, the thing that came out of that vanfleet press conference yesterday? Turns out he played in those finals with sprain. Thumb to see a specialist about in that all right? Coming up next year on undisputed will Ron AD become one of the best duos in Lakers. That one. All right after that blockbuster trade this weekend. Lebron take Instagram posted this AD on the way. Let's get it bro. Just the beginning. Like show. I know you love the move. But how do you think Eddie will actually fit with LeBron? It'd be great. You're not anytime. Beautiful relationships. Get all their thought rod with me. I'm going places. I want you to come along with me that what I told a lot of people either they got they got lost along the way, and they didn't want what I won't. So you're speaking for LeBron. Lebrons AD going places. And I know you wanna go where I've been but I'm gonna go back there again. And I will need you to come on with me. This is going to be beautiful. Every relationship starts out could be a little rocky. Give, I mean, we just hit the floor run. It could be an argument here. Can you build a relationship you've been argument here? There about some, you know, sometimes, you know, you miss me all that would the right pick. You know you didn't sit the pig. Hard enough, right? Where you're supposed to be. But that's okay. That's okay. I can be very demanding. And sometimes he demands on social media, which is sometimes offensive to the second set. I've thought to be offensive, we demand. We expect greatness. That's what Anthony Davis was he demands and expects greatness out them self. And this is the first time the end the Davis, my actually be playing with a guy that better than him. That's never happened before, in Anthony Davis, career skilled, can you believe that? Well, yeah, I can't okay we'll guess what records sub five hundred. So even though the team was not the best player on that he was okay. Although democracy was there for a while debatable, who beat. To be you and you because they know debate. So I think they're games will mash, we're just talking about Xs and os beautiful because, again, he can set picks I can pick and roll LeBron can drive it the way he can drive it to a nobody else's ever been able to drive it. He can dish it out because Anthony can shoot mid range jump shot and got report rain. He's got some range, I think they should quell some of that. But, but he's got some my biggest question is, who will be the closer because again, AD is never had closer Jeanene neither as LeBron LeBron left, what ten twelve games on the table last year that he could have closed and was unable to who started becoming the closer when, when they were right like around Christmas day when they were still writing is twenty and fourteen Kouzmin did. So I'm happy for you that you kept Kuzin because he might just become the designated shotmaker down the it'll be designated anything. He might be the designated driver. We go out one night, or something like that. That's the only thing we designating him for driver to the basket in big clutch situation. He can't get to the basket. Better AD, LeBron second of all, you and I both know the best clutch shooter and play basketball history is you know who but I don't wanna get into that. We're talking about AD. We're talking about. I don't want to talk about Michael Jordan. Talk about. Okay. So here's the other issue that you will not address, because you're afraid to address address everywhere. Lebron has been there has become a scapegoat to his quote unquote goat because the media over protects LeBron James. So if it goes wrong for LeBron somebody has to pay. And the somebody was the whole roster the first time in Cleveland then in Miami it was always poor. Chris bosh? She just took the brunt of his fault. He's not holding up his one third. Got it will then who was it in Cleveland, the second time around Kevin love, how many days to hear you come in and say what is Kevin love doing thinking what Kevin love doing. Make it twenty two million dollars ten and four. Hell was he? Do you go go all I know is twenty six twelve two point five rolling out to change. Oh, what's gonna change? D weighed average twenty five and a half. We'll abroad is I you there. Okay. I believe today was ever been telling to do just watch watch LeBron's first cryptic post about if I just had enough help. Maybe you go just watch. Well, not, then it depends on how does Anthony deal with it to see rise up will inspire him will deflate him the only he become anti LeBron. Only thing. Dave's needs to worry about is that when I'm sitting courtside getting my lungs. I'm good. I will be at the skipped last year. I said, I'm going to be there because LeBron but, you know, they started the season on the road and kind of loss over that if they do not open the first game home Adam silver, you're gonna hear from me, but I'm gonna be there you're gonna wear your goat mask, or I should say, you're gloat, man. I might just do that skill. Okay. You do that site. You get TV time if you're not on TV and Nuff. I'll tell you this. I've covered Anthony Davis for seven years. He's one of the most unselfish. Cares about winning cannot shoots about when you hear GM j of a New Orleans native. She's today was requested that, you know, she's still defended jockey up next, my favorite topic of the day, these take on it can the pelicans actually be asleep or team in the west. I think so they're going to discuss. Final topic of the day. The pelicans certainly are getting back in the Anthony Davis trade including Lonzo ball. Brandon Ingram Josh heart and three first round fix. They are expected to also add on Thursday, Shannon's at least think carefully about west how good we'll the pelicans be next season, the playoffs. Somebody that might take a step back in the Western Conference. Call them mainly play in Texas San Antonio. But anyway, that's neither here every song. They don't play San Antonio. Go ahead. Forty eight we made the playoffs last year. You guys are not getting they're not sorry. You're not getting the forty wins. They'll be better. They'll be entertaining but they're going to miss the playoffs again. So if they do resign, Julius Randle, which I think is distinct possibility and they do flip that number four overall pick for a proven player. I don't know who might be wait and see in the next forty eight hours because I think we'll hear then all of a sudden you got the best defensive backward in basketball, and Lonzo Andrew holiday. I, I could see that being the surprise team in the wealth. I could see the eight seat. I could see a playoff team next year. Well, we know they'll be in the work for you. For you. We know who they'll be that was killed stop playing Lakers on over under vacant property said the overrun that fifty six games on today. Thank you. We appreciate that did for us tonight. Move back tomorrow morning. Thanks for listening to the undisputed podcast. I'm Johnny tapped join us again at the same time tomorrow morning nine thirty eastern. See you then. Of, of.

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Ep 94: Hot Mayonnaise with Special Guest Eric Hughes

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Ep 94: Hot Mayonnaise with Special Guest Eric Hughes

"Stephan we've been waiting for our special guest Erik for fifteen minutes and if I turn on the TV. Wait sure Anthony. Why don't you put on some planet Earth by the way this massive headache so I took some pills from your medicine cabinet? Why is your advil in a plastic bag? Oh my God why would would you take medicine from someone else. That's where the pills blue I I think so like a bright blue like a sky blue. Yeah I'd say. More of a Robin's egg blue to doesn't mat- whatever those were my painkillers for my surgery. I took one every twenty four hours and I it was high as balls. How many did you take? Oh Sweet Krishna. I took four O.. K. Deep breaths just watch planet Earth Earth and. Relax and I'll get you some water but I think of starting to freak out already. I can hear my skin talking. Oh my God it's talking about European. PM Politics Make It. Stop just full goose. On deep in the desert suburbs of Phoenix Arizona. Two brothers are about to make a cash but has trouble foot. The eldest brother seven has consumed enough pain killers to drop of full grown bull African elephant and now the next episode of the podcast is in grave danger. What the heck attack attempt to help his sibling? Anthony goes on to find nourishment. He makes a mad dash to the phone where he dials. Domino's Domino's as salient dose of Meat Lovers Pizza. We'll put his brother's stomach at ease. Suddenly Man's greatest Predator approaches to adult females Stefan Anthony as wives they knock on the door to check. Accountable is if stems sees her husband. In this current state it will be certain death. Why do I feel what you'll Sir Anthony X.? Quickly in throws seven into the bathroom to shield him from his wife to make convincing Anthony towns on the shower although confused as to why Stephan Shower Anthony. How's the wives shrug it off and go back downstairs to enjoy the Mehta's episode a in Paradise Stephan? PODCAST will live to see another day. I I it podcast. Two brothers that rated statement to be taken literally was up. Seven hyper hyperbole. Hello everybody welcome to hyperbole. PODCAST SELF-HELP PODCASTS for the helpless. We've waited for twenty four hours at. I am now fully early sober. My name is Stephan. I'm your first host and my name is Anthony and I just changed Stephens diaper for the last time thank you. I really appreciate at that. You might have to change one more time because I got a bun in the oven but we are going to stop talking about that. We're going to introduce our very special guest everybody. Please welcome Eric Hughes Hello. It's okay if I use your real name right and share your every day. Oh that's good. Eric is a very funny person. He's a comedian. To stand up comic. He is an actor author. He speaks fifteen languages ages and I think he has the Guinness World Record for biggest subway sandwich ever consumed Sarah it. Actually the title is the biggest biggest. Got It eric. Yeah biggest negative nice. That's beautiful anyway. Welcome to the show. Thank you you for US having you. You are so happy that I'm here. We are our man so anyway Eric's going to be helping US dish out some wisdom and advice to all y'all so let's go ahead and get started. We're going to top things things off. Start things off with a review from apple podcasts. And this one anthony. Would you like to read it. Yeah I it. What's it fits me So yeah if this review titled Mostly Puns and Poop Jokes five stars take their advice vice your own risk but if you like wordplay in fecal humor this is the podcast for you. Anthony is a poop joke master. Thank you you and Stephan is a funny dude. I often have to restrain my laughter listening to this show at work highly recommended. Bt what let by Apple podcast thanks bt what yes thank you very much. That is good twitter friend of ours. Ars Positively Wolf One and he has a podcast. It's the Wgn podcast watch this movie podcast. It's also great ones who check it out anyway. All all of you guys. That haven't left review. Please do leave a review because we need it. It's essential that we have it otherwise we will die Anthony has sickness where he has reviewed deficiency. It's the doctor said that he needs five stars day or he's done it's in his bones. He's he has a bread it's spreading. It's what is it called him to me. It's metastasized My what my reviewed efficiency. What is it called? What's the technical term I don't want to bore anyone with its long Latin. Okay just like excellent dammit. You beat me to it anyway. Well Anthony's long and Latin thing is is it's really tough so anyway LE- review. Help us out help. Anthony next up is quote of the week and this is where we break down the meaning of quotes from great people to reflect on. Ourself help. So we've been referring to instead of great people a great robot called Inspire bought and it's an AI driven machine sheen and it squeezes. Life's lemons out for us and sprays us with that citrus wisdom so eric would you like to read this week's quote connected by Inspire Bot absolutely auto erotic fixation how primates defeat narcissism. Yeah it's a it's a deep quote. And what does that say to you guys. I I mean to me. It's just like when you're too into yourself you just got beat it and then after registry how sad you are. And then you're not as much of a narcissist. It's almost like we evolved to survive auto erotic six you know. It's almost like the belt was invented. Saddam selective pressure to hurry things along the strongest next survive. DARWINISM ISM Jesus election. There's a subspecies of humans. A super strong neck Acts were weeded out there. It's like it's like Lion King instead of an elephant graveyard. It's just a bunch of skeletons with a belt around their neck. Check those of the week. It's been ten years since David Carradine. David I don't originally. I'm not GonNa Lie David did he. Yeah Eric. I wanted to air to reflect on some years ago. He's my right now. Oh man well. He died doing what he loved himself. No I never got that belt bag. They buried him with it it. It's an open casket. I'm almost choking on my tears over here. This is so sad. You know the trouble is. There's no safer when you're by yourself the player mode. It's like if there's a safe word in automatic identification and no one's around to hear it does it exist steep man that's next next level shed anyways. Thank you driven robot inspire. We're going to think about this one in all of our advice. So let's move on to the meaty part of the podcast. This part is Beef and this is the meaty part where we answer questions from fans from read it from twitter anywhere. The Internet provides stupid questions. We give stupid answers. Oh that's a great idea. That is uncharted uncharted territory for us. But we need to lean on over there except for fans we. Your questions are Super Smart and we love you. So that being said Ed Eric Fire Eric. Would you like to read the first question from a fan absolutely question. One from Fan Larussa. A job rose. I'm officially adult in now. I have a job where I have to travel for work by plane since this is my first first time. I'm not really sure how to prepare. What do I need to know before I go love? y'All Larussa Oh gee I defer to others. I've never flown on a plane for work. Have you ever flown on a plane. I Have I how how I have flown on a plane at all at all. I guess bring clothes You're going to need those does well. Yeah you should bring close but you have to watch out because the airlines fuck you if you don't wear them so no but they'll especially Delta's they'll fuck anyone. It's the essay policy. It's yeah it's government standards but no navy. Yeah I usually do all my travel for work by boat but I would say a lot of translates over and I would say Go with Spirit Airlines. It's is the cheapest so it's GonNa Save Your company money and they're going to like that. Yeah they they save money on their lack of bathrooms and basic necessities. Yeah you also have to step to bring a diaper. 'cause you might have to soil yourself. 'cause they don't have bathrooms you know. And they bought up all the Boeing Max seven thirty seven so every trip you gotta prepare by saying your last farewells. To your loved ones John Larussa little known fact. You can get around the three ounce bottle rule by freezing all of your liquids. There's no rules against solids. Oh my God. Is that a wife Hack right there. it now so is. Don't actually try them. Please Orissa if you dissolve solve all your liquids and gases. Ben You can bring them because there's no. I'm sorry I'm not a chemistry. I was GONNA bring a gas canister onto a plane. Bannister this okay. They're like yeah. It's it's not a liquid. It's not water. Water isn't here talking water. Get that out of here like air. That is fine Aquafina. Get It fucking Dan you fuck that what else. What else does she need? What are what are the other necessities bare necessities? You'RE GONNA need. What would a bear bring on a plane bananas? A bear bears bring that right blue. Banana Blewett Nana's jets and he. He pointed right there yeah lamb. I think you'll probably need what do I. Why do I wear a suit? Oh here this is actually good. Where dress up nice? So if you dress up nice they're going to treat you like you're a business person and whereas if you dress up in your pajamas they're gonNA treat you like trash and put you in the back of the plane that he's happening to me. That's that's how it works even though you get your seat assigned to you before you get on the plane. If you dress up you get a big chance of getting upgraded. Is that true. A work sixty percent of the time. Okay I I've never been upgraded and maybe it's because it's where yeah so every time you go. Oh travel even if it's for a family event where fucking suit just look it up. I feel like I would sweat my balls off. I were no auditors and planes. You will hill. But that's the price you pay for first class swimming but also I feel like I'd rather not be sweaty in coach than just wrenched wrenched in first class. No no you've never taste and you shed can you. Could you get like a like one of those a button-down like NBA a suits and just rip it off in the first class. So if your check Tito t-shirt yeah just wear a shirt and a t-shirt but put a tie on or something and a top hat for business something like that Prince brings yes. It's like the top at trust like the monopoly but no bring snacks. Definitely bring snacks. I I would say all it solid snacks no organ applesauce. They'll lose their minds over that shit or solid liquid. There's nothing that'll hold up the TSA line more than Apple. Something done try that. What's the most applesauce we can get through? Tsa Hey guys next to video. Fill our suitcase with applesauce. An EDU plane. I'll do cinnamon. I'll do mixed ext rose water down. Cinnamon Yeah you might as well do sugar-free getting nerd. Oh sorry guys those trying to add another variable All right fine. I'll just do the gas form of of applesauce you'll you'll do. The human byproduct of applesauce. Yes so anyway so bring So bringing apple saw well. Don't bring bring a snack trail mix maybe crackers egg salad sandwich Apple Pie. Bring the Somalias you gotTa Salmon. Ask your ask your roommates if they want to share or or if they if they would like a piece I thought you were going to say eat your shit and ask them if they wanted to share their join us. Share your I'm a little hungry. Just read and Mayo but not a little bit of Mayo. Just bring a jar full of Mayo and just stick your bread reading it. 'cause they're not allowed to say yeah. Bring like four. Three ounce bottles of Mayo can you do that. Is there a limit on how many 'cause I've had multiple table three ounce bottles before life hack you just have to just has to be inconvenient like it's not like a they don't care about the total volume of liquid. They just want on it to be in container smaller than three ounces. Just like forty seven three ounce containers a man as an a loaf of bread. I think you too stumbled across a life hack brother and then you can have an empty larger jar and once you get through the line you just once you're putting your shoes back on yet. Condense it all back into one simple and then you have thirty vials. That are empty. You can fill with other things like catch up water for the plane. Oh Manny's water yum it's in Q.. I'm working on a patent for that. All Right Let's Shush Sean about that north to taste your man as water. I've told you this million You guys will see what's the name of it Anthony's he's custom nannies. Water Oh yum yum yum than water slogan keep data direct sunlight. Oh they'll have republic like enlists terex unless it doesn't matter. Yeah I was trying to say Listeria but that does it works. Oh well I don't know what that even means so. I think it's a disease you can get from. Hot Man is hot. Manny's is that we need to. Ah Yes call it hot man a million subscribers. Oh Oh aw I weak knees waiting to jump ships. They haven't dumped the toilet. Let's get hot man is on Hotman On the air. I mean. Think about it. If you're scrolling passed a bunch of podcasts. You when called hot mayonnaise. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA at least look at it. Oh Yeah Kit. Kit could our slogan be spread. The love man is by by the way I was just thinking of Miracle Whip. Doesn't it sound like a relic. RPG like a Miracle Whip -gratulations. You found the miracle West. It's like super powerful marriage. Cuban I already found a more powerful whips. I'm just GONNA leave it in the chest. The poor miracle whip neglected again. Anyway so I think we really stumbled across some gems here for Loretta. Thirty vials of hot man as user with a necktie. So you don't sweat but he's still get upgraded don't getting Oh yeah don't do not or maybe she's maybe she's one of those subhumans that's evolved the really really thick neck. Yeah so it's hilarious. Nick is your neck. Yeah Yeah what what that neck do I guess. Oh No that's creepy. I shouldn't ask just test the durability of your neck with maybe a wicker belt out or something like that and then and in if we hear from you you're up for it okay. I think I think we've answered this question to its fullest extent. Anything I WANNA WANNA thank you for sticking her neck out. She's going to have a first great great day at work. If you do get a mark from the belt rub. Some hot man is on it and that gets rid of whatever what is it. Yeah IT'S A. It's a cure. All it's an elixir for all your ails. I just imagined my dignity. Yeah I just imagined my big fat Greek wedding. How the DAD's like put windex on it? Maybe there's like a Turkish thing where the dads are like. You just gotTa Rub Hot Mayo on it and it fixes everything like Turkey. I don't know 'cause Turkeys really good with Mayo. They're not uh-huh. I Dunno Canadian then that that would make sense. Yeah Yeah they love their Mayo. It's the National Food of Canada. It's the spiciest can eat very selective pallet the Canadians have Putin hooting and Mayo. Maple come on Maple Mayo Maple Putin okay before we all get really hungry. Let's let's move on. I just thought about that for a a sleeper. Yeah let's move onto our new segment CELEB- advice celebs may seem like near perfect examples of human beings and they are but they get a pickle sometimes too which is why we dedicate a full segment of our show to give them even more attention. It's time for Celeb- CELEB- advice. I need we need a little ditty for that some music or something anyway. This article brought to us by. TMZ thank you TMZ GMC. You guys are doing. God's work uh so Lonzo ball admits. BBB shoes were defective. They quote exploded. Breaking King News. Lonzo ball is admitting he knew his five hundred dollar per pair. Big baller brand Zeo to prime sneakers were faulty and would explode slowed on him during games but he continued to hawk him anyway. Can I can I interject really quick. You May yes who the is Lonzo. Ball sounds it's like a circus clown. He felt like hey kids. I'm Alonzo Ball. He sounds like a sesame street character. squeaks is red nose and dances on a little circus ball. He does but he is a an American basketball player for the NBA. That make that fits all right shoes. I get it okay. All right yeah. It is known pairs of shoes but then they exploded exploded. Still Fe- let me give you this. Okay sorry let me go further. I don't I know how he talks. So I'M GONNA make up an accent for him. Does the author so they was not a hey ball admitted on josh hearts lighthearted podcast ball. Who was playing for the Lakers? During the BBB shoe era says he would bring four pairs of shoes two games because he knew they would break and he had to switch them out every quarter if you literally had my shoes from those games. They'll just exploded bro. So if you recall. BBB initially offered the co two prime shoes to the public for five hundred dollars pair in two thousand seventeen later announced they were scrapping. The original design in favor of the Zeo to Prime Remix shoe. You a completely different sneaker. It seems obvious now. BBB made the change unclear if any of the faulty shoes were actually sent to customers. When asked why he wore them even after he knew they were defective? Ball explained because there were my shoes I had debut them both says he actually hated wearing shoes and applied that his game suffered as a result. I it's crazy ball says why would I switched my shoes magically like God good again both says he kept a secret about his crappy shoes to himself to protect the brand things eventually went south with the big baller brand with Lonzo's manager later telling customers to throw their shoes in the trash and Lonzo himself eventually eventually covered up the BBB to sorry the BBB Tattoo. He had on his arm. Still Lavar claims. The brand is still alive and he's looking to relaunch at some point in the future and that's the end of that whimsical article. That sounded like a fantasy land of me. A lot of those words didn't seem real. I don't know about you guys but I really liked when they referred to him by his last name is called fall. That was my favorite favor part. Glad what was your favorite part of the story. Eric will clearly. They had to market these shoes as giving explosive performance. Oh yes this goes out with the bag well anyway so I just don't understand how he thought he was going to get away with just sweeping it under the run Did he think no one else's shoes we're gonNA explode just his yeah. I love how he went to the game with four pairs of shoes. It's like these Su- there's such a piece of shit. They will fall apart in fifteen minutes and he gave up and was late getting back out after halftime take seriously and I love how he was like. Oh it's almost like magic. When I stopped wearing shoes I played better? I I also don't know if explode is the right word because I still like his feet would have blown off if they exploded right. Will he literally really so yeah he might not have feet. We shouldn't judge so you're saying that every time a pair of his shoes exploded he just put the the shoes on his knobs and then it just got shorter and shorter and shorter. That's what I'm saying. He did say his game suffered as a result. Yeah what would make your game worse than not having feet. I guess fly not having hands but I'd say the only way it radio worse. Oh well the next article is about as his gloves his. Bb Guns Oh gloves or whatever anyway. So what's this guy's next move. We need to give him some advice he. He wanted his own shoes so we got so they exploded next. What is he gonNA? Okay whatever one buying right right now headphones. Would you buy a pair of headphones from him or would you worry that they would also explode. I would be very worried. I feel like he's making these things in his the basement. He's not even trying to outsource to China. He's like I'm on so ball. I can make my own and does it. Diy It's it's like Botham felt and some string from joannes and he's like tired. I'm the yet like what five hundred bucks appeared artisan except instead of Italian made. It's just like I don't know where the fuck Lonzo Lonzo ball is from made in New Mexico. I guess Canadian Arna sneakers the but they was not ready they was not they just exploded. Bro magically magic they literally literally magically exploded. This guy is the Shakespeare of our time. Okay so should should he. Yeah you're saying Eric. Make switch from shoes go to headphones on. Maybe I sure wouldn't mind I if the box if they were listen made if he changed the name of his company to just to just balls shoes I would buy some balls. I think that'd that'd be funny or maybe shoe balls. Even if they were terrible just like say I've got balls on my. You switched to just make an old man shoes that way. He doesn't have to worry about them. Exploding like they don't even walk anyway. Yeah they're just for show anyways like loafers penny loafers ball overs get his own penny in there now. Those old men's ball's GonNa hit the floor in multiple ways. I would fucking love to see that next from big baller brand okay and Penny loafers. Matt said that's the reliable. That's what his so at the bottom of the article it's his dad. Lavar ball claiming that the brand is still alive and looking to relaunch relaunch. That's that's the move so there are two balls in this story. Oh absolutely you gotta look closely to see both of them Lonzo Lavar Lavar. Ball's in a pod man to balls in a sack I think would be a better. Grows out. Doesn't fall far from the tree. Yeah Oh man okay. So make oldman shoes. His old man could wear them. I don't know how old Lavar ball is probably. They're probably be stoked on some balls. Well he is a ball. What is a ball? He himself is a ball. I love how I love how eric is going for creative solutions. For how how little ball can continue with his. What is it dream? Big baller brand and then Anthony's just hung up on balls. I can't get passed all. I don't think that's the funniest name ever do. You think if the big baller brand took back off he would re tattoo on his arm in the same spot. Goes back to the same guide covering up. I need undo this. Just topple air it's just embedded in his flash slash problem balls back. Maybe maybe he did the Tattoo himself and it actually just exploded. It's upside upside down and backwards. Because he did it in the mirror. Oh Man Yes so to sum up make shoes news for old men and what was yours anthony. I I think I was just piggybacking and just saying name at balls shoes or shoe balls or something like that selling it including balls. Yea also you need a network light. Yeah you need another a fourth be yeah because BB is like better business bureau Yeah his yeah. What if maybe he got rid of the Tattoo because he got BBB on his arm and people like Oh better business bureau and he's like no big baller brand but then he just got so much confusion that his like Afaq? While I'm just GONNA get rid of it you can tell from the exploded shoes that were not part of the big business bureau or better whatever the big business bureau both guys. 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She asks states rather so Well being naked from the waist down I made eye contact with my boyfriend and lifted my leg to Fart. Instead I pushed a little too hard and just pissed on the floor like a fucking dog while making eye contact with this poor man. What should did she do? After the s well first of all you don't break I contact dominance. It's a maker maker break moment for you right than in there that you're deciding right now who gets to piss on the floor for the rest of your life. I I would say goes up further further and don't break eye contact and say clean it up and then make him clean up your puddle of Piss. And they'll do it again the next day until he buys a litterbox for you to piss is. The risk doesn't quite equal the reward. Honest one in my opinion in this does she want litterbox No no no just the you could knock pissing it and show him that. You cannot be tamed Okay and then just start pissing on his side of the bed editor where why aren't why. Aren't you tamed. Because you're you're wild just piss everywhere you're saying. Yeah Yeah I think maybe go to the doctor. 'cause if you're peeing when you're just trying to let loose a fart. Yes pretty intense like you didn't know you at a p and you just past past. Maybe she has a gambling addiction. Wait what's the correlation. That was quite a gamble to take on. Oh that's true I mean was the Fart even ready was it in the chamber or were you just trying to summon one from your stomach back because it sounds like you are reaching deep for that Fart. Sorry I realize she's not going to respond. But anyway you should make sure the next. It's time you fart locked and loaded. Yeah you probably don't WanNa pick. Well yeah unless you just want to commit to piss on the ground. I wouldn't make it a recurring thing. I don't know she might like standing. That's true you have to get get good uranium. Now get a good a G- a good name is there. Is there a device that a woman can strap onto her vagina. That's like a penis genesis. So she can strap on. That's another story but we're we're about to blow the whole Internet open for a hollow one so that she can p out of it. I'll no joke. There is a product used for. I believe the intent is road trips and at allows a woman to stand and take typists. Oh my God was created by Lonzo Ball. Yeah it they also happen to be a sponsor this now but they watch out because they do explode after after four uses the will. That's where the business started i. I didn't start making shoes. They started making hollow doubt. penises is for women to wear to P. It's balls for your woman. Girl Ball made with anatomically correct balls ones bigger than the other. There's no need for balls. It's just a key comes from your. Aw insist that we keep them balls in the prototype eh three balls they all have tattoos of BBB on them ball ball and balls anyway. Anyway I better if if a girl did this to me. I don't know what I would do. I think I would laugh. No I would be very. I would be very scared because I did. I would think that her intention is just look. Look straight at me and hissing on the floor. I would jump out the window. I would probably run for my life. We like the next thing is like she's she's lost. which is like come stab you? Okay any other little pearls of advice that we could spray on this woman. I don't think she needs any help. Spring I don't know what the fodder are. You come back from that like well. Who's house did it occur in first of all Are you thinking like a like a reciprocating kind of thing. I mean was it on home turf for or did you go to the boyfriend's place and let the rug or was it a party. I contact with my boyfriend from from across the room. What is crowded party at this party? Guys I've I have been to some crazy parties all right. I've seen some shit anyway. There's some totally normal parties. I could end like that. That is true and Dan. I mean family. Reunions get crazy. I'm not even allowed back at chucky cheese. That's probably Lonzo. Ball's favourite place the B because it's got a slide so many balls I was thinking the ballpit but I oh man I just thought of an idea. Uh of what he could sell his he could make ballpit. And it's like it's a regular ballpit but all of the balls are shaped like his head and face. Oh my God not. I hope they don't explode because that would be awful. I think you just nate nate. You just describe something of nightmares. Want to jump in the Lonzo Ball. Ah Oh my God. I'm already thinking of how we could make the plastic molding to make the ball uh-huh ready to mass produce. This need is we need a three D printer. leiw the plastic into perfect three D.. Scan of Lonzo. Ball's head Anthony. You get on Matt last night I got it. What does he look like? Oh my God he looks like a weird version of drake. Yeah like mutton chops. That'll be very distinguishing feature on on this plastic balls Man Should we put wall on the side for the mutton chops. Now I mean you just molded plastic Or scratchy just actually wool ball. Just a hairy balls in a pit. Wouldn't that if you rub up against them when that create a lot of static electricity. Yeah probably kids. Go jumping the Harry. Mary ballpit no okay. Okay okay. Don't get shocked by my own. Fuck electrcity off the walls. I think we've answered that question to the best of our extent. You're done in that town. We probably can't close to record for times balls have been said in in any podcast ever. Yeah Yeah Okay Okay okay. So let's move on to word of the week. This is not really funny but we wanna make you learn something. Thank what are the week. New Word is Baksheesh and in parts of Asia. It's a small sum of money. Given to an given as alms ATIP HIP or a bribe in example is the children's smile back and asked for box sheesh. What are we bribing children to do? I don't know that was Google gave me that example. I did not make that one up. Bakshi also sounds like something extremely sexual so so something you would order on a menu. How yeah that's like I? I could see them in Asia. Let's it's maybe it's like an Asian tobacco he meant hit. This Baksheesh Homegrown Bach sheesh Bakshi sounds like a star wars creature to like. Hey this is Bach. Sheesh he's half walkie half Wamba don't look the buck she should. I Buck sheesh boxes okay. So that's Bakshi everyone. We hope you remember it and use it in your everyday vernacular guys guys hold your tears back. Because it's time for the last question Eric. Go ahead and do the honors of Reading this last question. Police question three from read it. How do I stop smiling around my crush? I can't help it anytime I'm around my crush. I start smiling. I started smiling even before I see his face. All it takes for me is to hear his voice when I see him. My heart stops in my face. It's really hot. All the last thing I want to do is come off creepy. Does anyone know how to stop doing. This sincerely. Green grins situation in Seattle Seattle. So I think you should see a doctor about your face. Getting really hot air heart stops. It sounds sounds like you die. Yeah you don't you shouldn't worry about being creepy. If you're if you're going into cardiac arrest I mean maybe a little bit like. Oh no I hope opening creepy as you you know pound on your chest to get your heart Arrhythmia. Well well is he. is she going to pound herself or someone else GonNa Pounder well. She's probably hoping he'll pound her chest. Okay well I think it's going to be the person closest to her. It's gonNA pound her chest but doesn't it when she sees him so I had assumed close ish. That's true. Do you think. Multiple people should pound her chest. I mean I mean if there's New Orleans someone's probably call nine one one so that the ambulance could go in pounder. Yeah we want professionals pounder. Okay well we're word to the wise as you wanNA keep WanNa keep pounding her until the ambulance arrived in. Don't stop he got. It's important to keep pounding. I think you have to pound her to the song long staying alive. Because that's I think I saw the office what about that long. Thanks whether it's not really like the sern- pound that Stern I don't know any other. BG Sung Okay. So maybe every time you see your your crush think about think about your grandma dying. Yes or the worse or something bad like dead puppies so that we get do something horrible. Think about the things they does. That's horrible. Yeah like think of situation for like like think of think that like he is cheating on you even. Yeah No. You're not in a relationship and just be mad at him or disguise go crazy about that. Yeah they love it. The heart of her concern seems to be smiling but in my opinion the smiling is not which creepy. It's the lack blinking. Yeah that's that where sunglasses then or blink. Oh Yeah I guess you could do that but if you don't I don't want to blink. Just wear sunglasses. Or if you're physically incapable linking yeah. We're physically incapable of blinking where that that red red band that cyclops from X.. Men Wears all the time like like not blinking a superpower power. You have to control Baseball goals that would be fucking embarrassing if you go to. Charles Eggs Xavier's school gifted school for the gifted youngsters he's like. What is your power my child? You're like I just can't blink. And he's like okay. Okay well let me let me get you to the school next door functions and who wanted to learn to do other stuff good to picturing her wearing the goggles feel like presses the button on the side and she did just makes her blink. Like oh off. Fox is just a big shudder. Sound so blink. I think is what we're saying. Yeah wait wait. Oh she says I start smiling Even before I see his face so what are you looking at. Another part of him probably is dirty girl so so he walks so she sees. Yeah okay I mean maybe he does one of those. He's walking away and then he like they like stops in which had around and his locks Kinda like sway as he does it uh or maybe he does a crab walk player heart stops interface. The hottest get me some better. All all you can eat crab red lobster so yet but think bad thoughts acce- ACSI crab walks over or can you stop. What just smile? I just don't smell like a fucking creep. Just like practically much sums up the advice. Don't be be agree practice practice smiling in the mirror like don't show all of your gums like smiling like and I think you'll be if he can count all of your teeth. Dial it back so or lack of you've been or or where what is it like a Bandanna to cover your mouth so he can't see smiling but like just make sure you wear the right colors. Yeah Yeah you don't want to stab you from smiling so kit him to stab you. Where are the opposite colors of his gang so that he stabs? Yeah was that done. Because he's in a gang so our guest you're not you're wearing colors y'all got. I'm pretty tapped out for advice. Where just where of a full ski masks? So he can't even see any of your face or just a bag. The paper bag much less creepy just cut holes in it for air and then I whereas prior putting it on. Oh aware Lonzo. Ball's shoes so they'll explode and your feet will be extreme pain so you can't smile and he'll be looking at your feet instead of your creepy face. Yes maybe you could do like. What is it called money heist on Netflix? Where you could wear a Salvador Dali been seeing that and thinking of how dumb it is that it's called money highs? How many other types of Heis are there? Well there's there's like back maybe like an art heist or actually now that I think about it. There's a lot of other highest as jewelry is all right but still there's three Types of is there's a time heist. I'm Heinz Steal People's time. No it's from a vendor's endgame whalers oops ruined it. You saw him game. Might didn't oh you didn't now I I don't care that's fine. Oh okay I think I think I remember the plot. I think someone told it to me anyway. twenty-six movies moment in the one word time time heist yes to a big old time highest anyway so fuck. I had a thought and I'm highs has gone. Oh yeah no go on a tangent about money heist but it's a Spanish series. So if you see get in in in Spanish this is called custody propel or House of paper which is a much cooler name than money heist. I don't know who was translated paper paper house. I don't know it's kind of a dumb name to was better than fucking money. Heist there. That's that's true at least like some sort of like like figurative nece in it. Yeah it's like okay fucking like breaking bad drug teacher man pick yes exactly that so anyway but also if you listen if you watch it and you hear dubbed English it's fucking awful 'cause they try and say stuff so that it matches how the lips are moving but the intonation is off and everything just sounds really stupid. So you're saying we should watch. The Spanish was meant to be heard. No we need to redouble it for them. Yes that's exactly what I was going to say who've UK over there all right Vertigo. For a second not been started started a musical interlude. Money is okay so any other advice for this person for stop smiling around their crush now just get pounded until the ambulance comes staying alive. The best advice of our entire show get pounded cal. Well well the ambulance is GonNa come but make sure you come to because it has been known for being selfish lovers those ambulances which brings brings us back to the inspirer brought all circle jerk yum. mm-hmm okay now those. 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"Sodano show in Chemnitz. Julie Stewart pinks Kirk Morrison in for George who apparently did a very successful interview with pop that was that's what's trending on Twitter. We're going to have the sound later of George interviewing pop, but I I was just studying with the sound off in the studio looked like there was actually some back and forth by pop standards. So good for George tux. He didn't tuck walkaway. No, that's that's a serious accomplish net force, Don. Oh, so Clayton Kershaw. He's been shut down at spring training. Dave Roberts said today that he's shut down and will remain. So he'd been given a day off after throwing a bullpen session. And the Dave Roberts said that Kershaw, quote didn't feel right describes it as an arm kind of thing and Clayton Kershaw had some comments. Not not a back. Stay days. I'm not going to be super specific right now. It should be fine in the next few days. Super early. Make sure things are right. You've been concerned put it that way. Right now, just take their fix often recital. Shouldn't be too long. If not by this weekend personally. Kurkin joined the rave music in the background early in the doctor lead. None like locker room interview. All right. So at a breakdown exactly what is going on with Kerr show. It's going over the dodgers were joined by Alden kansallis covers the team for ESPN. He is I guess on the road back from today's spring training session. How are you? All. Great guys. Thank you for allowing me to be that that riveting. Same Kershaw today. Glow sticks involved in that glow sticks in like a rave t-shirts whistles. I didn't even know that that music while I was in there. So that every time you listen to them that you could. In his own. So so what's going on right now with with Kershaw in terms of this arm issue, and how long he's going to be shut down. Yeah. I know. I don't think at the moment. It's a very serious thing even said like tacos, and he's gonna be telling again in a couple of day. It's still February. I don't tend to worry about things like this one. It's very he's gonna have plenty of time to get stretched out and start on opening day renaming the opening day starter, I think important thing was that they've opted out at not a back issue. That's troubling John obviously back injuries. What has sent him to the internet each last received? Season. They've property said that it could be dead arm, which is something that affects guy Mesa spring, and you need. Which basically just means the tired aren't because they've been so for a while, and they are influenced shade that has a bunch of pitchers normally happen. The billions. But it's definitely something amount of because we're talking about here. This is the guy who's going to be taking thirty one pretty compounds at ton of innings when you consider everything's been in the regular season every day in the post season. He's. You. Alden think you're breaking up a set. Can you hear us now? Oh, yeah. We lost them. They'd we lost. All and we'll try to track him down again interstate team coming from. Yes. But it's a dead area expedient of dead arm. I mean, we were talking Andy before the show that yes, it's this idea of dead arm and throwing a little bit too much too early. When you're not necessarily in shape everyone's concerned about issues. He's had with his back in the past in what way is this at all a secondary effect of anything. He's had with his back because everything's connected, especially if you're back, I it's still early to and kind of getting the kinks out. And for me is, you know, I'm I'm always about where's he going to be at in September October. Because this team is just showing me that they're always going to be in the playoff hunt the playoff chase and play late too late until October. And we're rejoined by Gonzales covers the dodgers for ESPN all how much even if you're not concerned about this in and of itself being a serious issue for Kershaw how much concern is there. Just with the idea of he's getting up there in age. You know, we've seen the recurrent. Issues happening in just the idea of that he can be relied on in terms of availability. Yeah. And that that's what I was getting before when when I got cut off a little bit. I that's the part where I would be concerned, I'm not some because solely and supreme. And he'll be having a Hemi get ready for the season. But when you consider how many innings Clayton Kershaw has held up in the regular season in the postseason these last few years when you consider the fact that he suffered a pre precipitous drop in velocity last year. He was thought about ninety ninety mile per hour. This fast ball, he had no differentiation whatsoever with is lighter. And he went into this off season. If you remember what Clayton Kershaw talked about after he signed three year, essentially with the dodgers, he talked about how he really wanted to tap back into that velocity. Again, he wanted to get back to only ninety three ninety four ninety five like he did only a couple of years ago. And so he spent he worked like he never worked over the off season. He will on a sex ability. He worked at realigning his body. And I think part of shutting him down just a sense that I get sense from a little bit of. Frustration on the part of claim Kershaw that he's running back Adonis bullpen sessions. And I don't I'm not sure that the ball is coming out the way that he wanted the way that he expected to the way that would warrant all the work that he put into sop season. I think it's been a little bit tougher him to realize that now we'll get we'll he gets stronger as spring goes on. Will there be extra life in his fastball? When the season starts, I'm not sure maybe maybe that happens for him. But it's definitely something to watch claim Kershaw can shut down this early. Maybe it doesn't affect him initially for maybe those are issues come up later on in the year. And I think you're exactly right. I'm not sure if you could count on Clayton Kershaw anymore to be that workforce until two hundred any I mean, he hasn't done in about four years. So even just on that point that's cause for concern for dodgers fans, looking at Clayton Kershaw and not necessarily knowing the severity of the injury and whether to pop up again in what way though is Walker Bieler ready to be an ace. I think he's ready to be an ace. I think right now, I think a lot of people around the team a lot of people around baseball will tell you that right now he's the best pitcher on the dodgers. And it's no disrespect to incur Kershaw. Walkability? Just has the best stuff. I mean, he's got four or five pitches that he could throw at any time. You saw show up last year. He pitched great in that tiebreaker game against the rocky Seve and get the dodgers into the playoffs. He pitched grading game seven of the NFC s he's ready. He's one of the best young pitchers in the game. I think he's gonna be an all star this year. I think by the end of the year if he stays healthy. And there's no indication that he wouldn't he's going to be maybe vying for Cy Young, I think he's got that kind of stuff. And I think if you're the dodgers the important thing when you look at their roster. They have really good starting pitching debts, especially when hunching reuse accepted that qualifying offer. They're basically going into the of the season with six really capable. Orders. And that doesn't even include Julio aureus who was one of the best young prospects before he had shoulder surgery. He's looked really good during spring training. And he's probably gonna set the year in triple eight. They have that much depth. So alden. Look, I I know what's going on with Clayton Kershaw now. But does this at any point maybe him not be the or not being the opening day starter for this team? I know it's look Dave Roberts is going to allow him. And it's been like that for the last eight seasons. Now that he's been the opening day starter for the dodgers. But if this kind of continues could we see maybe the changing of the guard, and possibly can Clayton Kershaw not the opening day starter for the dodgers? I don't see that happening. It's going to be nine in a row now. Soclean Kerscher who the matter is the opening bass started thing is just the sort of tip of the cab respect thing. It doesn't always mean that that's your best pitcher because to be told when the season starts with off the guy's getting hurt. So rotation gets with around. It's not like just because you started opening day. You're going to be making more than anybody else. It's sort of just like a nominal title to respect thing. That's why I was no no surprise whatsoever. That they gave it to claim Kershaw if you'll make clean curbs how the opening day starter. He's going to get really upset about it. If you don't make walkability opening day starter. He's gonna totally understand because he shares the clubhouse Clayton Kershaw who won three Cy Young awards. Zola's covers the dodgers four ESPN. He is in spring training in the middle of it all as we speak. Appreciate the time. Man. Thank you. Thanks for having. Yeah. It's it's the the dynamics and the politics that come egos to manage a house. Every everybody knows. But they don't want to say, I think everybody knows. Yeah. This. Hey, you shut them down. Now. I know there is potential that poten- Walker Bieler could be the opening day starter. I think all things being equal. They will let Clayton Kershaw have Kershaw day. And then they will eventually start moving. Well, let him with them ride off into the soul. So this could be the last possibly we'll see eight ever know. We'll says could be the lag in it's very ceremony miles a lot of time to reconfigure the rotation. Once you've done that opening day ceremony coming up next update on Don Nelson and Charles Barkley went there Sodano show ESPN so Donald show. Any Kim Annette ski Julie Stewart Binks Kirk Morrison and Kirke were big fan of the we believe warriors. Yeah. Yesterday yesterday. Don, Nelson, you understand that was that was fun man that team was being celebrated before last night's warriors understand. This is this is this is before this whole Steph phenomenon. This was a bunch of. I don't want to call them rejects. But they were a bunch of bad dudes monop-, not bad in a bad way. But just did rejects I don't want to call. It was barren day. We'll be Belsen way. Oh, yeah. They wait. I'm disrespectful way at all. He had on a disrespect Aleksei more outcasts than little giants. Right. Yeah. A little bit. But this was like more like teams had kind of written these guys off like Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington. Jason Richardson, baron dare this MO one of my favorites Andres Bijoria. Oh, yeah. Those those were my dudes. So really teachers really quick before we get to Charles Barkley Nellie was asked what he's been up to lately. And his response was pretty succinct. Haven't spoken some. There. You have it. I love it. There. You have it. See it's different. When Nellie looked like he did. And when Phil Jackson did his like Phil Jackson where he came back from his little what if he'll come back from. And we took a little time all sabbatical his little sabbatical, and he came back, and it was just like, I'm one with the earth. Like Nellie is one with the earth. Nellie was totally Nellie looked like he just came from from Woodstock belly looks like he's been living off the grid for like. I mean, I, you know, his hair can get that long. No, I guess it goes well with being like really into pot and have did you say, he's he doesn't Zona grows Nella Cush. So that whole that whole we believe team that that whole entire team pretty much has a. I want to say they all have their own individual brands in actual companies of marijuana. No. I'm not even joke. No, he might. And that Barnes is really owning like research, and he no he's opening up a pre rolled shop. Like you have pre rolled marijuana sets available. But they've audited the research business right now because it's just becoming more widespread and work. And also, you know, Joe Montana has recently, just Yep. He's part of Khalifa one those marijuana company. Yeah. So Joe Montana. I mean once Joe Montana. Did it everybody else's go? Right. So go spoken some. Consented to smoke. Some pot a little slow here. In the meantime on inside the NBA during halftime Charles Barkley weighed in on this bizarre story with Jesse small et now. I think soon to become ex empire actor he already stopped. Yeah. They ought to go. The last two shows off the last two shows he's being a of staging his own hate crime. Yes. And Charles Barkley weighed in on the whole situation and had some advice. I guess for anybody debating doing something this stupid down the road. I was gonna go at Houston. As Ernie goes over there. I. Your biggest one over there. That's still living that you would say has no chance of happening to to two black guys be the black guy up and have. Let's go. Let's not on here. The clippers. Well, the clippers will not make the playoffs. We'll come. I got. I think probably the Lakers will not make the playoffs to kings will is the latest edition. Go ahead. Kenny leave you Chuck. Check. Break a nicer. America images. Tell you something that do not commit crowns with check. You cannot if you're going to break the law. Do not write a check. Because you write a check that what the high. Nobel you shop. Man. I'm never used ATM. Now, you know what I heard you only get two hundred dollars out of holes. A lot of stuff to ATM. America that air cutting out. Right check when you commit illegal activity. I cannot believe that we completed we touch them. All right there circle a buy more. There's more pillow. Go command. All that damn time of money. You know, what you should have did just what? This is what I'm Elise. Very few people who get away with that. And Charles Barkley's on the shortlist it, man. That's why he special man ways. Because because we we kinda debated this one of my group chats when my guys like man, I don't get it, man. Charles Barkley, just be saying the most outrageous of us have. But that's that's who he is. That's that's that's why he's on that show for me. He is so good at just just off the cuff. This is how I feel. I'll say of what I want that. They put him actually on NCWA basketball tournament coming. You could see by no idea. He hasn't watched a college. Before know eat some mazing. He's a basketball analyst Charles Barkley Froude -ly, watches, no basketball. Right. He he very often admittedly has no idea what he's talking about. And also to you know, what's interesting about the show is the relationship like big brother little brother shack and Charles Barkley back goes back at them. But in reality check, really loves them. You're listening to that relationship is dynamic and Kinney's right in the middle. And then I applaud every time I listened to Ernie fried and tried to keep everything in life. Atlanta hero that show. Always he actually is. Because we got it. You know, they're just in that clip. He's gone off the rails. Like, how do we deal with this? Yeah. You could see he went Ernie Johnson was going around Charles Charleston. All right. What they're gonna see where this goes touch them. All what you said. Julia. All right coming up next. Bobby some Meany he was the trial attorney for Donald sterling during that mess when Donald sterling was being forced to sell the clippers, and we'll get some perspective from him on how things might play out with the NFL and Robert Kraft with that situation, Saddam show ESPN LA Sodano show in Kim. Annette ski Julie Stewart Binks Kirk Morrison in four Sodano in Toronto on the sideline for Spurs Rapley lake George, and I sort of like traded homes. I get. For a little bit in my home. The sings on here. You know, what the I'm not I'm not trying to tell, you know, our programming director, or you know, the bigwigs up in Bristol. We'll keep the trade. Same. Now, come murder me advice late. No, no, no. He's gonna come to me in my sleep. Julie. You're going to be fine. You're not the one actually soliciting all of this. Speaking of solicitation, what a segue what as classes he'd been taking Robert Kraft is it was reported today has been charged with misdemeanor. Solicitation of prostitution. He's among two hundred people allegedly engaging in sex acts with employs of various targeted massage parlors in the south Florida area. This was all part of a larger human trafficking sting, which obviously is quite serious. But we're going to be looking ahead to what could happen as far as discipline with Robert Kraft and to get an idea of this potentially. We're going on Bobby some Meany he is a trial attorney represented Donald sterling through that mess that eventually led to Donald sterling selling the team, Bobby. How are you? Well, thanks. How are you? Good. Good. I guess the first question would be just how do you picture the relationship between the league and Robert Kraft playing out in in terms of them the investigation and figuring out how to discipline Robert Kraft, and how far they would go. Her. So from from the bigger picture from a criminal standpoint, this is a pretty low level thin. It's not something, which is terribly serious probably resolved with a fine and a diversion Tarzan. But from the. From the standpoint, it's it's an absolute disaster. And of course, the lead is going to have to conduct their own investigation and take some action estate determine there's been some unlawful conduct. I think that it's pretty well accepted that the owners are held to a higher standard than players. But if you look at historically what's happened in the NFL, and other leaks. You have some players who can can pretty serious crimes. And and and really just get reprimanded this FIS. I'd be surprised if the league goes very far with this. If it would be surprising to me. So then if you're Robert Kraft at this moment, what kind of conversations have you been having the hind the scenes like what are you doing to sort of, you know, prepare yourself for what's next? So right about now on unserved that they're beating their PR team Rigo folks are all in there, and they're trying to figure out how they're going to coach Williams. Only two ways to deal with it one is to deny and the other is to own it and apologize. And so far the statement has been denied. But that could change as the investigation rolls out. If you look at the affidavit that was filed by the local police that lays out the investigation. It's it's pretty detail. They had cameras in the facility. And so it's pretty clear that they've got twenty five twenty six individuals on video including it appears to be Mr. craft in that report as well. So Bobby this thing probably could it still go to trough, or is it something that can be resolved without having to go to trial is that something that's discussed right now or possible pleading before it even happens. Well, you know with something like this, it it normally would never go to trial. It would be played out very early. But the problem here is that Bobby? Craft is such a high profile individual. And he may have to take the position that he's going to go to trial and try to beat the charges. The problem with that is that if it goes to trial and China's conducted then only more details, which are not included in the report, we'll come at an trial. I'm not sure that's the way that he'd wanna go. We're talking about Bobby SIMEONI the trial attorney for Donald sterling in. You know, we're talking about Robert Kraft, a one of the more influential owners in the NFL, and you mentioned it there. There will be discovery. There will still be more that possibly comes out in your experience. You mentioned already the basically kind of denies, you know, give out what you, you know, give out your statement. But at some point does Mr. craft have to have a press conference. Does he how does he kind of have to explain himself or does the lawyers just take care of it? Well, in most places, I think you've all find the FBI folk. Will will handle that part? I think that if if if he decides to take ownership of it, and they'll have to tell them how he wants to communicate that to the world on. I think that the PR problem with this case is that it's being claimed as a human trafficking investigation. And of course, that's I think in, you know, a hot topic for a lot of folks right now and one that I think craft has to really think about maybe it's an opportunity for him to get in front of those. And and maybe the diesel good in this arena. And that actually leads to the last thing I wanted to ask you about it. We're talking about Bobby some meaning he was a trial attorney for Donald sterling during the mess that was him eventually selling the team you mentioned how this is all part of a larger investigation into human trafficking. So very serious issue with that in mind with that many different people, you know. Being charged and that many people involved. Do you think there's a chance that somebody like either Robert Kraft or other people are being charged in part to get them to cooperate and help a further the actual investigation itself. Well, you know, what I thought when I read the report was I wondered if maybe he was specifically parted at because this investigation appears to have gone on for six months hip seems to be alone time, you know, for this type of investigation to across. And maybe during that time they made some determination that maybe frequent at this establishment and decided to expand the timing. So it could get could be just coincidence or a D that they they had some sense that he would do that. Nabis SIMEONI trial attorney for Donald sterling talking with them about this situation with Robert Kraft being charged with soliciting prostitution, we really appreciate the time. Bobby? Thank you. Thanks very much. Thanks bye. You had a to me really interesting to see where this goes from here. When you brought up that last question, you realize maybe there is a bit of a conspiracy theory with this like maybe whoever brought him. There was just like trying to out him or have the fall. Like, you never even know. I wasn't necessarily thinking about that. As I I mean, I know election a lot of these. We'll know. Yes, we're there's also a lot of them. Let you say there's a lot of getting rich. Cooperate in the news, very powerful owner. Go Murska Haggerty out of nowhere here. She I mean. The odds of Robert Kraft serving jail time or something like this. Art non-existent that's not going to happen. But you wonder if maybe to get his own exposure lessened in all of this or just, you know, his his prominence lesson. They're looking for any type of cooperation that he can offer because it who knows who brought him to this place. I mean who knows how he actually made contact in the first place. If someone tells you to go to a place like that spunk to spot a spot at cool. Are they do you trust them? Like are they another billionaire? They'd just random guy you met at the bar like this has been a conversation and in in the fellows group chat. Okay. Okay. Actually, it's been a chat show. The fellas fellas. It's about twenty guy. What else seventeen of us? These are. I I assume coming up next you're going to share all the messages in this group tax could just talk about what we've been what's been talked about and five of them actually live in the state of Florida. Visit this is fairly common. Okay. And that. They're not on the list. They're not being charged being charge. But we this leads though to a question that coming up next. I do want to ask when it comes to Robert Kraft, and these charges a misdemeanor soliciting of prostitution and the shock that comes with his name in there. There's a question that I think all of us have been wondering about that. I want to ask also to some news on Lonzo ball and his potential availabil- moving forward. I don't think people are going to like it. So Donna show ESPN LA, very serious intro. Yes. But this this make mail bad mcmeel? Oh, you're talking Robert traff. It starts like this. And then that thing he'd up though, do you think Meco potions mail, y'all? What s that that's kind of been visiting? We'll we'll meek post Robert crops bail because he visited me guess Zil. So yeah, it's kind of like a rabbit Robin were saying wrong here. Robert will sit bats. Okay me. I'm good. Trust me. Yeah. So that's how I was in the locker room after the Super Bowl in interviewing not of the patriots things like that. And I remember Mr. Kraft's walks in the locker room, and he's in there. And I wish I still had the photo. It's my other phone, so he walks in. And this is big giant like case. I'm like what is this? So with this case he needed a key to open it. They gave him a key. He opened the case lifts it up. It was fifty cigars in there. And I believe it was given to him by Mr. patrol on. Yes. Who passed away I guess last year and they lost the Super Bowl last year. And it was a gift, and he couldn't open it. So he was opposed to open it after they won the Super Bowl previously against Atlanta last year who's going to win it. They didn't win. So he'd been holding his like fifty cigars, and he talked gave this great story about the cigars. And I'm like this is just a cool do because he walks in with his air force ones. And he's just, you know, just dancing with Cardi. Did this on me? He was he's living his best life. Well. Tirelessly Robert Kraft for those on aware being charged with misdemeanor. Solicitation of prostitution. He's on two hundred people police say who engaged in sex acts with employees of different targeted massage parlours in south Florida, Robert Kraft, made two trips to the orchids of Asia massage parlor in Jupiter Florida about a month ago and faces two counts of the charges the charges punishable up to sixty days in jail, six months of probation five hundred dollars in fines. I think we can all agree Robert Kraft is not going to end up going to jail for this. Although hopefully, the people who are actually involved with the trafficking. Yes. End of all this jail and rot for a long time. Correct. But what the question though, with all of this with Robert Kraft being in the middle of it? And I'm sure we're gonna end up learning. More details as more stuff from this investigation comes out. What is Robert Kraft doing with this like if Robert Cray? Once the thing that he is alleged one. There are ways to go about doing that. Right. It doesn't feel like a CD massage. You can get that you can order that to your house on if you want joking in whatever. But you see remember Charles Barkley just told you you can't use a check. So said go to K write a check. I on gave you the phone glossy the book online. There. There are ways if you're Robert Kraft Frank to find that if that's what you're looking for what is alleged. And again, we're not saying, it's okay. This be happening in all. No. But just the idea that if you're looking for that Lee Inouye trying to make light of the serious more serious parts of this again with the human trafficking that begun this sting investigation. But with Robert Kraft in it almost feels like you're watching a guy in his seventies. Having a midlife crisis. Like when you think about this. And like the meek mill and the Jay Z and the Cardi beat like this guy who like a billionaire with his integrity thing everything. And this is this is something I like, obviously, it's we we we have to do remember this. And I was telling the guys my group chat a little bit earlier as well that we we gotta remember a couple years ago. He lost his wife Myra Kraft and member of the team, wore patches and things like that. It was probably. A bigger piece of who he was. And you know, I look I'm so married meal. We my wife Mary everything's great. And hopefully, we grow old together. But I can only imagine to lose your spouse, especially for how old of a man that he was when he lost his spouse. You lost a piece of you. And you're trying to regain that's what I to find out you had a girlfriend since twenty twelve right? But it's just that. But that's baby with her alleged. There were this is all alleged. This is not this that roar roar alleged this the yeah. Because not in here. I'm not even in the studio that was another thing that was it was alleged. We never we've never seen those baby mirror of people who are trying to figure it out. And it was like he said, I'm not the Voller. Mitt. I'm telling you realize that it's a lot to impact. But it does go back to win. He in, you know, well, when his wife passed away Myra Kraft, he's changed. Yeah. He's kind of had that. Is it a midlife price? You're listening to casting in Los Angeles. Right. It's an he's obviously not the first billionaire. Correct. I extremely wealthy person with means to engage in this type of behavior. I mean opportunities money in exactly Julie. And we're going to see when Moore when Moore names that we start paying attention to beyond Robert Kraft because he may be the most shocking or the most Ellie kroth Adam Schefter said that there's just figuring things. I I I know he can't name anyone because that would be who's the bigger name, then Robert Kraft. I I know who I got I'm thinking, but I will say it because I don't wanna get. Okay. They shouldn't along honestly jokingly, I'm jokingly here. And I wanna make sure purposes I by saying jokingly, if Jerry Jones would have been named we have been like, oh, that's just Jerry. No, actually, if it was Jerry Jones again. Yes. Not is it bigger than is big on the rubber craft though because crafts is seen as with Jerry Jerry Jones is he just went down elkhound Jared. Vinson. Jerry's miss on a bus. Nobody risky stuff. Okay. We wouldn't be truly surprised. Overheat LA. That's not what I meant. No, see. No. He would not be shocking. If it were Jerry Jones. But I think it's a bigger store bigger story. If it's Jerry Jones because Jerry Jones is arguably the most high profile owner in sports he's liberty in his own, right? But I will say this is your right in Dallas Cowboys is America's team Corozzo outside the country as people would hear about it. If it was Jerry Jones, but coming off a championship super pride be the owner of the best team in America in the world and tie for the most Super Bowls exposure. Yeah. Brady Brady and Giselle that whole camp. I'll know Brady's thinking too. Let's just hope he's he hasn't eaten. They'll strawberries. He did sit on Instagram post to his wife today. Zil thanking her for shirt commitment. I'm sure he. Yeah. Just to her commitment to what she's been doing and as far as philan- through philanthropic work in the community. So it's probably times. Yeah. I'm only just. On Sol post. You. All right. In the meantime, there's some news from the Lakers that is not particularly good. Reading story from Tanya gun. Guli covers the Lakers for the LA times point guard. Lonzo ball has been dealing with a bone bruise in his sprained left ankle that the team believes could extend his recovery past six weeks Cording to to people familiar with ball's condition. Lonzo ball has been out since January nineteenth when he severely sprained an ankle had to be carried off and this team. Mrs Lonzo on the defensive end desperately. Yeah. And Lonzo is already somebody that you are going to be worried about having a slow recovery. Even at this bone bruise didn't exist because lonzo's history has been slow recovery's or at least slow in terms of the league. Benham abandoned. Sometimes. Oh, no. He's this is your to relies. Oh, yeah. And last year he play what sixty Gheorghe fewer than he must thirty one. S one thirty care then this year, he's missed I would say closer to that. Almost in the beginning. He has a little injuried. And now you have this one. This is close that you start to get the injury prone label. Lonzo is injury prone. There's there's no way around it. We're talking traits known. I mean, Lonzo has so far been injury prone. You can't put it any other way. Doesn't mean he's gonna stay that way the rest of his career, but the sample size Hsieh's is had trouble. The sample size is troubling. Yeah. It is in terms of him being able to stay healthy. But also to the idea of getting back on the court has been troubling me for the Lakers. Then we knew he'd be out for at least two more weeks, even before this. It's just more load on LeBron James and the defensively and defensively, man. He's just not as good as I as expected. I just watching him last night only couple right now, I think teams are trying to put him in pick and rolls and make him. Switch. You know? I'm just watching that. And he's getting beat off the dribble little bit more. Because before he wanted you to beat him, and he would come and just pin? You to the backboard now, you're starting seeing guys have that extra just a little bit of more stretch than usual, and he's just missing it. Whereas before that was that was a block. Well, they they know that LeBron right now is coming off injury. You're coming off the most severe injuries and serving too. And we don't know if he's one hundred percent, I would be willing to bet he's not hungry. I think he's definitely recovering and probably moving in a good direction. But you know, it's hard for guys to be one hundred percent Kirke. No this around the time of your anyway, much less much less coming off an actual injury. But they know that LeBron is picking his spots. And they know that he can't pick all of them. Right. So and they know that all things being equal. He's gonna look to exert less of that energy on defense. They're going to go after them. So it works. Yeah. What's good though? I think is. Far as what we saw last night in the one eleven one. Oh, six win over the rockets is Luke Walton found a small ball lineup when he put Josh heart in there in the second half Josh hearkening play in the first half. He's dealing with a knee injury of his own. They're bringing him back. I think slowly and trying to pick his spots as well. But this lineup of Josh heart. Reggie bullock. Brandon Ingram Kyle. Kuzma, LeBron at the five played really well really well defensively. And I I think this is going to be something that they're going to be looking to try to capitalize on this this formula, and the and this grouping until Lonzo gets back. I think Reggie Bullock for all the focus on the shooting, and he is a legit shooter. Yeah. That is what he does. Get some open looks. Yes. Last night. I said will last night. He hit four threes. He's a he's a pretty solid defender, and he's got the size to defend multiple positions. And I think that addition is going to give Luke Walton some options. He's only three games. Acre so far, and he's already done such a good job. But when you look at Lonzo ball's timeline in any way, could this be given us more generous in terms of the fact that he could become a could come back earlier than what is expected. You know, what this team like there's some kind of mind games that happened at this time of the season where we don't necessarily. Want everyone to know, exactly? When a guy's supposed to be coming back. I would say give him an what I'm trying to say is. I know what you're saying an extra week or two just for expert. But I think. At this time of year. It's for the Lakers. It has to be all hands on deck. So I think there is no like miss misguiding or business misdirection are like, oh is he coming back like they the Lakers need every healthy body that they can afford to have out there because this is going to be a total team effort as much as we were saying we saw LeBron last night. But we we mentioned already he has to pick and choose his moments. They can't be down nineteen points every single game and expect to had that type of energy that play last night. They won because of the crowd they won. Because a LeBron that's different. You did that being down nineteen at the grind house in Memphis. You know, what I mean or Utah some of these other places that you're not gonna find that kind of energy. And now you're going to need somebody off the bench last like you mentioned it was Josh heart coming off the bench his energy. That's what Lonzo has to come back in bring. So it's all hands on deck at this point. Because everybody it's going to be somebody on there that has. To be it may be like Lenin. Stevenson, one night by glance was the guy who gave us the. Just energy moment. Like, I'm just saying like a stretch of five minutes down. Okay. I can I can rest LeBron take a little bit of a break. And then have someone else doesn't it doesn't have that luxury this year. And we wanna we wanna see can buy Brandon Ingram last night. Take over about five minutes because we saw with D way we saw with Chris Bosh where when he was in Miami was like a male. Look, I'm a chill over here for about a couple of minutes. You do you. Okay. You you take over the do do the Lakers have that by the way with LeBron? How amazing I I was thinking about you know, he went into activation mode last night while saw accent? And he was afraid I wish that I was good enough at anything to activated mode. Today today. Anything like I was really thinking about Mike at Mike. Good enough. It anything to summon activation mode and the truth is no, I'm not he'd been doing a great job on the show. Thank you. You've been activation mode show. I don't know. But here's the thing though. Like activation would be the next level. Right. Unless this is actually it. Well that forty more minutes left. So. Time tax throw numbers. Forced to fourth quarter. This what we need you. Fourth quarter, where we lead you most. I think right in your coat tails a lot people. I'm a little tired. No. If I got activation mode and me speaking of dudes who do not get tired. Steve bomber. Oh, he does little ball of energy. And he was on with TNT crew last night after the Lakers beat the rockets and he called his shot for free agency threw down his gauntlet. Hear what he had to say. Coming up next Donald show, ESPN LA.

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"Savannah show here on ESPN LA Trudell hanging out with us here, by the way, shutout to UC Irvine. The only southern California team representing in the tournament upsets. Kind of I picked them the Vince I did. So I got a little lucky on that. I picked them to go to rounds in a pick Murray state to go. See I have the movie the Origo. Yes. So I'm going to Oregon do actually they winning still or were they were up a couple in Wisconsin lesson at check. That's probably over now. Yeah. It's got be Oregon seventy Wisconsin fifty four. Excellent twelve and a thirteen there. But yeah, the your vineyards the animators. There you go. Congratulations Johnson them before. I get to the basketball stuff. There's actually a story that I wanted to do. But as a forty it's weird because I'm a forty one year old man who doesn't want to do the story in front of your mom. Does your mom is sitting here? It's about Cam Newton. The spectral Cam Newton abstaining, he says, it makes his mind stronger. So I don't feel I feel weird to have that conversation. Run out next. Next best. Comfortable that was the goal. I knew I'd get there. Maybe we can find green talked to him about. Cohen. Yeah. The bachelor. Yeah. Exactly. All right. So let's talk soup here. Let's start with the west real quickly thickens. So. You really start at just what they're I think it's not just it's getting warm out here. Even though he has kids. But that's I it's still weird to have come to your mom, though. I get it. I thought it was weird for media even bring it up. But I just felt like, you know, are going here on our goal is to always make sure L somewhat uncomfortable at least at one point or non front of mom mission accomplished. So five through eight right now tied virtually tied right now, literally tied thirty. Yes. So Oklahoma City San Antonio, Utah clippers those are the the bottom four seeds right now. If you had to pick one of those four teams to upset one of the teams at the top, which one are you picking? Well, I think I think Oklahoma City has the most upside now they've been in a down spell they play. They're five and eleven in their last sixteen or five at ten in the last fifteen foreign row. Yeah. Yeah. They're just they're not playing. Well, I mean since so basically since Paul George tweeted shoulder, they haven't been quite the same even though Russ he's been playing better. And I think this is the whole problem, right? Like the reason why they were going. Well, is that George was the guy? Yup. Westbrook. Did everything else? Literally. He was actually getting everyone involved game revolve, rebounding. Infants steals in not taking as many shots. Now that George hasn't quite been the same because of a shoulder Russ's taking on more the offense, and that's upset their balance that they had. But I think they can get back to it. Yeah. So they're still the team to me that that is the most complete out of that group. I get San Antonio is hot right now. But I, you know, just not enough talent for me when whenever team is playing as hard as them San Antonio, you talked about them, and I I didn't have the Megan the playoffs this year. And I felt good about it. Because Popovich when I had their game in November was like our defense atrocious. And I don't know how to fix it. They have tweaks some stuff systematically defensively that have helped them Zach Lowe, and I were talking about that the other day when he did the show with me. But yeah, I I should've known better to pick against them. But they are playing really well at home. They're amazing. It's absurd. They had a nine game winning streak. Just snap the other day by Dwayne Wade in the heat only Denver's been better at home. Yeah. But Denver you can understand having one of those. They always have. Burs road emerets it just just based on experience and like Popovich you Yokich getting anxious on defense. I mean the team though that I that I like the most this wouldn't be an upset. But I think Houston to me is the clear second best. Yes. So some people will say no Denver is or some people like Portland how they're playing. I think. Yeah. I think Houston is clearly the team that has the best chance to beat the warriors agreed with that. And right of the teams that you know, the bottom four that can beat one of the top four. I would agree with you on Oklahoma City just because of the high variance there that they've got won't be shocked. If Utah beat either Portland or Denver. Yeah. I could see them being Denver to I mean, Utah a series last year, and he'll go home acidity. They're not even going center. Houston dot no, absolutely not Donovan Mitchell, obviously has has the second half really not the second half. Basically since the turn of the calendar. He has elevated his game even further. So yeah, I'm with you on all that how about the east though, because I feel like the east is interesting because Phillies coming on right? They have the best starting five in the Eastern Conference one six zero, but their depth isn't ideal Milwaukee's law some guys brogden out, right? He's done and teach just hurt his hand. He's out for a month brogden, hopefully back for the second round or babies for. That's he's to me. Very underrated part of what they've done this year. Like, he's really good. So I worry about that from a walkie. And that's the kind of thing that could make the difference. Right. Like with those without tight those four teams are the one team everybody talks about the big four. It's mock you Toronto Philadelphia Boston. Yeah. But Indiana's just plucky, man. I'm not saying Millan would be the coach of the year for me. Also, give it to bud in Milwaukee. But McMillan's in the top three, I think. Yeah. Him doc. And and and butter probably the top three in some order. I mean, I think you I think you gotta give them alone a little credit to Denver. Yes. They they've had a great year. I mean, but people expect them to the playoffs. Maybe not a two seat. That's for sure. You getting twenty two. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. I still feel like Boston is the team that can come out of the Eastern Conference because Tom Habra tro who is a numbers grew even though he had a terrible appearance on this show with me. And a mean that we made fun of him for he he had a great stat the other day where the Celtics are fifteen two when Gordon Hayward scores, fifteen points or more. And if you notice really that's a lot of that has happened as of late because it feels like Gordon is feeling more comfortable after the injuries get into the rim more. He's not just relying on the jumper. And if he can be somewhat consistent, I think the best team in the conference. See I watch Boston a good amount. But Bill Simmons and Ryan russillo show. Both New England guys who watched them like every game. Don't like that team at all. And so when the data like it because they don't necessarily love the personnel. On the team the way that they're not meshing, and maybe there's a little bit of kind of protecting themselves. But that the people that seem to watch them the most see the stuff that we don't see like the bad games. I still agree with if if my life depended on it, it'd be tough to pick against that talent. And Kyrie in the final five minutes. Now, I think in beaten Janas have both been better players this season the kyri, right? But in the last five minutes can be sure that's the playoffs. Rissole what Boston did to Simmons last year? And it was basically just okay, go ahead. I'm going to stand at the free throw line, and you try to hit a shot. But guess what though? Now you've got to buy Harrison Jimmy Butler. Right. And so Simmons is like fun. You wanna leave him like that that means devices open, and especially because you're going to trap and bead in that means that Jimmy Butler can kind of go get his shot. So I I don't love the cohesion on that tape. But it's getting a lot better. Yeah. And they're they're just more talented in that in the five the five that are on the court. Well, what they need is to just and they started doing this in the kind of went away with away from it was just allow Jimmy button. To get the buckets in the fourth quarter. Let him be your Kyrie your finisher, basically because he thrives in that situation. He does this gets back to the whole your whole philosophy on basketball, and like how Golden State plays and they don't necessarily do that. And I would love to see Philly not feel like they have to have guy. But that Tobias could do it on the weak side of the floor against the weaker defender in not just Butler loading up against Boston's best perimeter defender every time but yet nonetheless like he has come through in those moments. And we we didn't talk about Toronto. Toronto might be the demand the conference it might be. Yeah. And so the other thing is because coli has quietly and probably because he's quite has missed more games in the Brown. Right. And so they haven't had the type of cohesion. But they're so the difference being that Toronto was a really good team without him last year. Correct. And they had all of the continuity and just sort of added him. Whereas the Lakers completely new team added LeBron to that. And so that was obviously much different. But yeah, I dismissing them either. Yeah. I am specifically trying to see I just basically wanna fast forward to the second round of these. Conference. Like, that's that's you know, playoffs. That's where I wanna be unless unless you get now. I don't think there's going to happen. I think I think is going to end up being the five seed, right? Yeah. They still have a tough schedule Boston. We'll get home court. And so yes, I was kind of hoping it might be fun to see Boston in Philly playing around one, but that's not gonna happen anymore. I don't think listen. I know you gotta run buddy because you actually have work to do still. Yeah. I'm going over. Staples. Check out the game later playing. Lebron is playing appreciate it. As a little Russell's return. Yes. Sure. That all your boy, you're the one of your children de ngelo Russell. How did I not even talk about that in all the time? You were look everybody knows. I mean, it's fine. I hear going to be like a hog some dapper like how does this work real quick before we go down? Also. I'll just say Hello. No check in very just just like that. Ask him. I was eskimos brothers doing. Okay. Yeah. Just like that. All right fair enough. All right. Mrs Trudell great seeing you as well. Always a pleasure. On their mom to work. Yeah. There's Mike now. We'll get to the naughty stories. Trudeau's mom is is not going to be around anymore. We'll get to skip Cam Newton story. And we have breaking news actually on that is related to Lonzo ball breaking news related to Lonzo ball. We'll tell you. What that is stick around? We're back in a couple of minutes here on this down on ESPN like sit down and show here on ESPN LA. Thanks for hanging down. Thanks to MRs Trudell for stopping by his well, MRs Trudeau's mom, though, not not the wife. David going to stop by in a bit. We'll chat with him. Devon, George going to check in with us and Mark Stein as well before the end of the show were out here in the plaza across receivable centers the Lakers. Get ready to take on the nets real quick. Try happy hour El Torito. They've got amazing happy hour specials that started just four bucks. Like tacos. Flout of neat does sliders hand chicken. My he doesn't cold beer the best. Happy hour town starts at three PM each and every day only at El throw. So we've got some breaking news on Lonzo. And Ramona broke the story. So we're going to effort to try to get Ramona here on the show before the end of the show to give us kind of the details. It's a long read, but it's on the front page of ESPN dot com right now and long story short. Lonzo ball is severed ties with the co founder of big baller brand. Now. I know we've talked a lot recently about big baller brand just because of lonzo's injuries. And just kind of what's happening with that. And there's been really it's felt like it's been quiet right in regards to big baller brand. No one's talking about the shoes. No one's talking about the business. Ventures. Lavar hasn't been around Lonzo is not necessarily talking about it. But now, maybe we know why? Right. So Ramona is reporting that Lonzo sever ties with the co founder of big baller brand. A gentleman named Allan foster who Lonzo goes way back with because him and his son were friends is the seventh grade. He's also very close with lavar. This Allen, foster gentlemen, and the reason they severed ties with him. Is because they can't account for the whereabouts of roughly one point five million dollars from lonzo's personal and business accounts. So ball told ESPN that he believes that Allen foster a friend of lonzo's father for almost a decade who owns sixteen point three percent of big baller brand had used access to his business and personal finances to enrich himself as a result. They've decided to sever all ties with Alan effective immediately. So foster just so, you know, I'm trying to give you guys the background here. And I'm trying to skim through the story. It's a long story. But of course, it's remote. We all know missing very long stories and Ramon will be on soon about ten minutes. Okay. So she's gonna join us. Okay. So four forty Ramon is gonna come on and give us more of the details. But basically foster served as the business manager for all the ball family operations and companies including big baller brand which was formed back obviously in two thousand fourteen so foster. Develop the relationship with the ball family in two thousand ten as I mentioned when their sons played together, according to documents any meals reviewed by ESPN fosters business decisions and communications were first raised last fall to Lonzo. So this already the beginning of this basketball season. There were concerns raised by Lonzo and lavar financial advisor the adviser said in an October Email that lonzo's personal taxes and big baller taxes. Couldn't be completed because they couldn't find the whereabouts of one point five million dollars. The interesting part here is that this particular gentlemen, Allen foster apparently. Has a history of defrauding people of money. According to court documents that Ramon on ESPN obtain show. It's not a good day for the ball family. Basically. No, you know, they've lost millions of dollars. The obviously, then there's the friendship stuff. You know, you talking about you, trusted, someone for very long time that you go way back with and then this happens just can't be fun. When lavar was reached for comment. He simply just released a statement ESPN that said that this whole situation is devastating to them. Yeah. It's also got to keep in mind at this. Colder Allen foster of triple b o sixteen point three percent of the of the company, right? So now. I Mesi divest him of that. Why does he fight for Wales? Work. Right. You know, he will. I wouldn't you. Right. And then it just kind of opens up a pen Dora's box potentially for lavar and Lonzo obviously and the kids in the family about what else was going on within the big baller brand. Because what's going to happen is when these situations than happen. You have just kind of a lot of finger pointing right? Yeah. That's generally what goes down. So that's the deal as to what's going on with Lonzo. So that's the breaking news and Ramona will join us in about five minutes. We'll we'll talk to her about that in just a few minutes. You'll have more details on that real quick. I want to get to a fun story because that was kind of heavy and not fun to talk about. But there's a fun story today. So Cam Newton was on the James corden show the late night show on CBS. That's the one that do the carpool karaoke or whatnot. And. One of the things he said on the show. He did a lot of fun stuff. Obviously. That's what that shows about. I'm trying to look to see any there's kids here. I don't know should be talking about this story. It's it's fine, whatever. Anyway, I'll try to clean it up. So basically Cam Newton said he's giving up or he's upstanding from the deed. We'll call it. For a month to make his mind stronger. Now, I don't know about you. Now, I've always heard these theories, right? Like, we've always heard coaches will say obstain because it will weaken your legs or whatever this that. And the other. I don't know about you, man. But my mind becomes a lot more clouded. If I go that long is what I'm saying. Right. You know because and here's the thing. I'm also forty one years old with two kids might you are married with children like you get this. You get to a certain age not that I'm not saying there isn't romantic moments. But let's face it. Like, we live everyone lives a busy life. And you're basically scheduling it on your iphone like all right? How does Tuesday at six thirty look for you know, about ten thirty. It's like. You know? It's like, you know, you're scheduling an appointment. It feels our time job. Yeah. Right. It is. But going month is a long time is what I would say. Yeah. That's that's a lot. That's a lot. Of course. He's on a talk show. So I'm sure now, I believe it was some sort of just he believes that like a lot of coaches and trainers coaches, you tell me. Wait that long. Right. He wouldn't tell me to wait that long when he would say we have a game on Friday. Keep it clean till then keeping tried to keep it clean. We know what that meant right. So young. We have the opportunities like, you know, a football player. A big time football player, but we got it. And we kind of understood that, but if you're a Bali baller. Listen, I'll say the Cam Newton. It's, you know, look, do you man. Or in this case, don't do you. You know, and good luck is all out say because you are a better man than I am that's for sure on many levels, including this would so I- coming up next. We're back in three minutes. We're here at the plaza crosser staple center. Ramon is gonna join us to give us more details on this breaking news about Lonzo ball. Stick around back in three minutes Sedona show. ESPN LA sit down and show here on ESPN LA. We are outside here at the plaza thankful to have the fan. Stop by say, Hello pre sheet that. We have some breaking news on Lonzo ball. I know we're supposed to have Ramona Shelburne on here's you guys. Let me know. She's there. Let's let's get to Ramona. Ramona's got some breaking news. It's on the front page of ESPN dot com right now about Lonzo. Ball, mama. Thank you so much for taking the time on quick on such short notice for those that don't haven't had a chance to either hear about it or read it yet. What is the news about Lonzo ball? He's he's sever ties with a man named Allan foster who was one of the co founders of big baller brand. And if you watch the Facebook watch show if you've seen he followed the ball family being him quite a bit. Can you play the pretty pretty strong pretty big role in that in that series and anything around the brand? And it's you know, if you read through the story and find all the reasons why. But I think you know, what I found to be the most interesting part of this is is simply Lonzo made this decision on his own. I mean, his his dad initially was not on board with it. And then eventually is on board with and you'll state that affected the story. But I think to me that was a a substantial dentals movement for Lonzo ball to make that decision. You know, all out on his own serve against the you know, what what his father had set up on. Ramona. What's the history between this Allen, foster gentlemen, and the family prior to creating big baller brand? Yeah. I mean, I think what was they've launched told me that he had bad Allen through Allen, son. I guess Lonzo in Allen's son, Enzo guess friends in the seventh grade, and they they're still friends. Actually, I think if you look last maybe fifteen th they released a a revenue together ends those a Raffarin their friends, you know, live music too. And so they out fosters in a friend of the ball family for. It's probably went two thousand ten that's as long as the seventh grade year. So they've been real close, and he's identified. Always is lavar business partner says, yeah, he owns sixteen percent of the companies of big baller brand. And he was the business manager for all the all the ball family companies. Lavar says is partner in the junior basketball league and all the other other things they own and so it's going to be there's a there's assistant tangling. That is going to set. It's happening right now that you know, I I know Alonzo's, and I think that's already ties have been severed financially and in terms of control of the company. The question is I think there's the big questions are really what's going to happen too. Big baller brand going forward. Lonzo has a controlling interest. Fifty one percent. But what does this mean for him and for the for the brand and everything that they that they set out to accomplish when he came at UCLA? Ramona Shelburne joining us here with the breaking news about Lonzo ball severing ties at the co founder of big baller brand over concerns that the longtime family friend, roughly or were they because they couldn't account for roughly at one point five million dollars from ball's personal and business accounts. So. How did they find out Ramona that this money was potentially missing? Started in the fall and onto ahead of financial advisor comparable conduct. He's a financial advisory where the Andrea Hawkins eared foster. I'm kinda entertainment clients like ISA array Lonzo it had him as part of his team, you know, from the beginning. And this this fall started raising very detailed concerns with both Lonzo VAR about how the visit was being run money that he couldn't find accounted for. He was trying to get expenses accounted for right? So that Lonzo could file taxes and terms to the documents. We had reviewed they went all the way back kill do you at least have last year where the concerns have been being raised for a long time. And the way it's been described to be simply Lonzo read it. He was really concerned about all those concerns that we're in those emails and everything that was pretty well documented, and he's just afraid to his dad, and I think the other way. A couple of people describe it was like he trusted his daddy. He know let his dad handle it. I'll was really awesome. It's really his dad's friends family friend onto his statement described him as a second bother to him. They were really close. So it was kind of hard to see her to read. And Rhonda those go back Kober when he's getting these emails, you know, he's trying to come back from from his injuries. Right. He's trying to get on the court and his dad this this this week when they they have had a lot of discussions about this dad, her said and didn't really read these these warnings and overseas, the younger sons and traveling with junior Basketball Association. Right. He didn't really dive into it. But you know, clearly this has been brewing for quite some time. And what happened over the past couple of weeks is I actually as you know, when you're working on a story, you go talk to somebody in person. So I I spoke to Lonzo ball. And I said did, you know, did, you know about Alan fosters Krimmer? Pass because this is obviously this is a guy that we found public records on where he had committed. He'd be he'd been sentenced eighty seven months in jail for seven years as part of running upon scheme back in two thousand two and I right around when he was released from from prison there is when he would have met the ball fan about a year later, and he didn't know any of that. And and sort of caused him to go back on some of those emails and say, okay, let's revisit this. And I know over the past couple of weeks he and the people around him as manager Darren more his security guard agent Harrison gains, everyone involved is really diving into this and taking it very seriously. And this is all played out over the last few weeks. Ramona Shelburne again joining us year as Lonzo ball severs ties with one of the co founders of big baller brand over one point five million dollars where they can't account for the whereabouts of the money Ramona, we've seen this right? It's like, it's a cautionary tale with athletes. This isn't the first time we've talked about it hitting close to home here with Lonzo. But there's a lot of layers to a lot of these guys. And unfortunately, you can't account for every layer. I almost feel like one point five million considering some of the other stories we've heard with Tim Dunkin, and Kevin Garnett recently that man they caught it early to be honest with you. Well, I'll say this. You know, when you're when you're reporting a story like this. I, you know, a lot more than you can report. Iran seen a lot more. I think it's a little more expensive than that. But that's only that's the that's the part where I I we had enough documentation of everything to feel solid in going forward with that. But I think it's a little more expensive than that. And I and you know, when when we reporting this, it's, you know, it's not something you delighted reporting. Right. I mean, this is right. It's a terrible story. Yeah. I I wrote and I'll play, you know, honestly for me. It's it's weird. Right. I big baller. When Lonzo in the VAR were starting this coming out of UCLA, lavar trying to speak into existence for Lonzo. It'd be Laker and starting their own shoe company. And and there was a sort of self empowerment to it. You know, do it ourselves. You don't need to do what they don't need to go with this judicial shoe companies pass on deals with Nike and Adidas, our, you know, three million dollars a year for four or five years. He's going to be the second overall pick in the draft. That's a lot of money leave on the table. And you know, they did it for a dream. And as you can see then turn out to be a dream kind of a nightmare at this point. There's any question about it. Momo you mentioned that there, obviously some entanglements, and there's been, you know, some severed ties, obviously, what would be the next step. Is there some sort of legal battle that they're going to be embroiled in? Yeah. I mean, I I obviously ask those questions, and I think, you know, one there's a there's a criminal component to this that that you know, and criminal component. There's a civil component to it. Because one of the one of the folks in here, I know they've they've been consulting with their in house counsel for about a week. Now, just figuring out next acid went what to do until I, you know, I take go any farther than I'd say, I know there's there's been a lot of consulting with lawyers extent. But I think in the in the bigger picture, your George the biggest thing for me is you know, I I is Lonzo ball twenty one. She was all these you know, you had to kind of stand on his feet here to make this decision. And you can't deferred anybody else. When it when it comes. To your bottom line and your career. Yeah. It sucks for him to have to do that. Right. Like just have to deal with all of that. While as you mentioned dealing with the injury trying to play basketball, and just, you know, having a life, right? Like an all the stuff that he's involved in. It's just it's a tough spot. And then, of course, the betrayal aspect of it from someone who was so close it. It's got it's just awful. I saw that labar sent out a statement. And just call the devastating which look that's that's probably the right way to describe it. Yeah. I mean, I think the way. I think the way when you know, Lonzo lavar had a lot of discussions about this over the last week or two and the in the final discussion, you know, lavar, finally said, you know, how on Foster's somebody I trusted with my flying career as you business fares felt really betrayed by by. How this this? This is what's happened. And you know, but he's fourth Longo. You Lonzo made this decision independently of him. And you know, he he's just at family always comes first. And I support Lonzo in this. And you know, it's it's, you know, the story about a father and son that we started off with you know, the reason why big baller became a story is really Lonzo was an incredible basketball player, and lavar was an incredible talker. Both things are still true. We'll still true. But it just hasn't gone. How anyone planned? Yeah. Agreed mama's it very serious interview that we did I almost feel like. Outs outside the lines with my this is like the serious Momo, right usually issues like this. I'm doing my own bobbly here. Basically like, it's very strange. So what we'll do is. We'll end it on this note. And I got to be careful because there's children around here as I'm in the plaza. There is a story today about Cam Newton. He was on the James Gordon show last night. One of the things he revealed is he's giving up. Let's just call it the deed for a month to make his mind stronger, you by that like would you be able to do that? I'm saying, no, I'm saying, good luck. Hard. I mean, can you go for a month without dairy? I mean, I thought that was hard. I don't know about the other. That is an excellent way to answer that question. You don't do a lot of things while you're pregnant I'm used to I'm used as a I'm just giving up this point. You're the best the best. See this is how we normally are makes me feel better. Very short. Yes. Yes. I'll go back to being bobbly some other time Momo. Thank you so much for always making time for us. He got it. All right. See there's Ramona Shelburne if you want more information on the story, it's on the front page of ESPN dot com. It's also on Ramona's Twitter right now. Yeah. Tough day for Lonzo ball and the ball family, like just not not a good thing for sure I coming up next. We'll get to what's trending. We'll give you an update on what the heck is happening in the NC double A tournament. Plus, we've got some cool stories from Vegas. We'll get to that next. Donald show, you're on ESPN LA.

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NBA Jan. 20 | What You Need To Know

The Free Agents

09:46 min | 5 months ago

NBA Jan. 20 | What You Need To Know

"Kyrie irving is back to playing basketball. The pelicans have shooting problem not zion problem and using only nba players. I select a presidential cabinet. Hey i'm task smells and this is what you need to know in the nba. For wednesday january twentieth kyrie irving returned to nets practice after missing the last seven games. The reason he was gone he said quote. He had a lot of family and personal stuff. Going on you left at that with the media but did say he addressed it a little bit more in depth with the organization and his team. Which is the important part of course from the outside looking in seems like the organization is very understanding about his absence. Seems like a very nice place to work if you ask me. The absence did cost him. Nearly a million dollars okay. It was more like nine hundred thousand dollars more. Like eight hundred sixty thousand dollars. If you wanna be technical about it. I was just rounding up because it was a little bit more dramatic. I guess i'm one of those ponds. Kyrie irving talked about in the media. The eight hundred sixty thousand dollars consisted of two games worth of salary after he was caught on video breaking quarantine and fifty thousand dollars for violating protocol back to basketball. The nets had a fifty seven game runway here with their new big three and it should start. Wednesday versus carries old team. The cleveland cavaliers. James heart kevin durant and carry irving on the floor. Speaking of games. There were two on tuesday night. I one consisted of the utah jazz. The hottest team in the nba. The jazz have won six in a row. This one over the pelicans donovan. Mitchell had twenty eight jordan clarkson had eighteen the leading sixth man of the year candidate off. The bench was also good. See joe ingles back coming off the bench for utah. The pelicans have an issue. And it's not zion williamson zion. Williamson was great in this one. Zan had thirty two points get in that body to wherever he wanted. It's his second straight game with thirty or more and that was the question before the season will the lack of shooting on the pelicans. Roster hinders ion williamson's ability to get to the rim. If you can just back off the shooter's can zion fine space while. Yes stan van gundy head coach of the pelicans has done a real good job of getting zion on the move. Zion's doing a good job of just getting through bodies himself. He is crafty around the rim but the lack of shooting is a larger issue at the pelicans in this game. Lonzo ball and eric bledsoe both in single digits in scoring and through thirteen games. The pels hit about six less threes in each contest than their opponents. Eighteen points that they're already behind in each game now. Zion can overcome that because he's getting to the foul line but eighteen points is a lot to overcome and as a team. They need one of lonzo ball. Eric bledsoe just one of them at least to get it going from three. Just start firing away. Other than sexy factor composite passed between his legs. The only thing you need to know about denver's win over okay. see is that nicole. Yokich had air quotes only six assists. His assists per game number for the season is now down to exactly ten point zero. We love our numbers here on what you need to know. You gotta get it above ten nicole but anything around that number even lower would be the most for a center ever over the course of season beating wilt. Chamberlain's eight point. Six in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight jokers title for most assists ever over a season for a center. Look pretty good. Mvp candidate joker had twenty seven versus. Okay see for most valuable player to most valuable president. Because it's inauguration day here in the us as the new president is sworn into office. So i got me thinking if joe biden was going to pick his cabinet solely from mba players. Who would he choose all. Let's get into the positions labor secretary. It's gotta be miami's jimmy butler. That guy is all about hard work. The secretary of health and human services. I'm going with the nets deondraye jordan. I saw them in a bone apetite video once he was cooking he really about the health of people what we put into our bodies. I like to hold my bowl. Cy ways when a whisk really because my hands are big and it also makes me look like. I know what i'm doing secretary of commerce promoting american businesses and is the job. Andre goodell's my man. All i've heard about egos over. The years is that he's into start up. After startup after startup but many startups failed. It'd be good to have somebody in the job then knows about the ups and downs of businesses. It's either hammer. Lebron james because lebron james continues to make blaze pizza a successful pizza chain. Every time i drive by a blaze pizza. I have zero urge to go in. Although maybe it's just not big here in the south on. I mean it's a regional thing. I don't know it's huge secretary of energy kemba walker. He seems like a nice guy to have around director of national intelligence. Rajon rondo. you need some not so nice guys around also high q. As they always say with rajon rondo national intelligence seems like a good fit secretary of transportation. The nets jeff green. He's been on ten teams. He's had to move a lot. He's been traded. Midseason four times thinking knows how to get around. He's had to move under stress. Being traded midseason. I think he's got a good temperament. I'd like to be in a car with jeff. Green secretary of defense steve nash. He's a fellow canadian like me. We don't like wars administrator of the environmental protection agency. I'm bringing matt bonner out of retirement. He used to like to walk or take public transportation. Two games that's probably because he didn't have any money but i think he still cares about the environment secretary of education. This is where lebron james fits in. He created the. I promise elementary school in his hometown of akron. Ohio after seeing the high school dropout rate and they try things at the. i promise. School shorter summer holidays with more breaks throughout the year. They've got an eight five schoolday. They adopted the stem curriculum. I'm with broad the secretary of the interior miles turner. We're going basketball here. He leads the league in four point two blocks game the most since decamping tumble over the course of a season in ninety five ninety six and that hand injury that miles turner sustained seems to be very minor secretary of state's about foreign policy. Malcolm brogdon gives a crap about the world as he tries to bring clean water to eastern africa as the founder of hoops to oh secretary of the treasury veteran anthony solver. He hasn't made a lot of money relative to other mba players throughout his career. And i like that about him. He knows the value of a dollar and he could use a job because he's not playing in the nba. Right now. actually hold that same position with the players association secretary of the treasury. I'm getting somebody with experience speaking of experience. The secretary of veterans affairs. Chris paul he helped create that sea clause that got older. Players paid the attorney. General top cop. Sounds like a job for chris paul. He knows all the rules. The cba is and on the court. He'll tell the referee. Hey that guy's jersey is on tucked. Give us a technical foul. The secretary of agriculture. What i'm chris paul again. He's vegan. He was an executive producer on the game. Changers documentary about -letes and what they put into their bodies. I think he could live off. The land director of the office of management and budget is chris. Paul you know all these details director of the cia. Chris paul he knows what's going on at all times you know. I'm pretty sure he knows everything that's happening in every inch of his family's house white house chief of staff who've it's gross ball he gets stuff done doesn't care who he pisses off and the vice president taking commonly harasses position. Yep you guessed it. Chris paul did i leave out some cabinet positions. You bet i did. If you have any suggestions for those or the ones that i picked please let me know in the youtube comments or wherever you listen. Make sure you listen to the full. No dunks app today where the guys will look back on the first month of the nba. Season i will be back to give you the news as fast as i possibly can tomorrow on thursday. See that data. Hey everyone it's ian mendes host of the athletic hockey show. Join me. Pierre lebrun sean. Mcintosh scott burnside haley salvin and the athletics great. 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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 475: Pelicans Restart

GSMC Basketball Podcast

56:52 min | 4 months ago

GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 475: Pelicans Restart

"Get your ears wrapped around the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast all the scoop. You need to know from college basketball to the nba and even march madness. Zoos of your rising stars topics on and off the hard work. This is the golden state media concepts basketball podcast. Whoa can be into the gmc podcast right. Unity simpson podcast network. Didn't sure spice lewis back again for final time. Who infused into basketball podcast is in my last podcast. Quite apart of seat. But i won't let that hinder what is going to be a good show today. So thank you for tuning in. Thank you for being part of this experience. Jam packed show today. We have talk about the new orleans. Pelicans what happened to the pelicans a team that you looked like paper and say oh playoff team. They're going to be a surprise team are now one of the worst teams at all the western conference. We're gonna talk about some players potentially making on the move. Some trades potentially happening. I'm also gonna talk about houston. Houston they're currently on a winning streak right now. Could they pretend still. Make the playoffs without james harden. So we're gonna discuss all that today on the podcast. Like i said thank you for tuning into the gmc basketball podcast and whatever platform or stream. You're listening to us on please. Don't forget review subscribe redel appreciated here at gmc. And so we're gonna get into one of the biggest mba disappointments of the season. So far the new orleans. Pelicans the pelicans were a team. Coming into. The season who a lot of people looked at as a trendy pick for not necessarily a surprise team but a team that you know missed the playoffs by few games last year. And you said okay. Zion's playing more minutes brandon ingram's on all star. Lonzo is improving. Jj jj a great shooter. Stephen adams the higher stamp and gundy you look at all of it. And you think oh. Wow you know this team definitely could be in the top ten at least in the in the west and so far they have been one of the biggest disappointments. They're not even in the top ten right now. They're currently thirteenth in the western conference. That's terrible therefore in fifteen this year. that's also terrible. They have struggled tremendously. Actually actually actually actually. Actually i was correct. Yes so they've struggled tremendously endless with the top. Ten thing the whisking conference they can still get in can still have a chance. But i just think it's shocking how. They've played being how they've came out the season. You never think of team with the pelicans. You have a budding superstar zion williamson. Everybody knows zion williamson hype train. Everybody looked zion. Williamson is the next big thing. He's been having a great year. It's not like he's been having a bad year and then brandon ingram's still playing really well and you just take in. Why team struggling so much. Will i defense there. And actually i was incorrect. They're sitting fourteen from the western conference but first defense their defense ranks twenty fifth points allow per possession so clearly that was their biggest issue lash defense usually with young team's defenses in issue. They brought in galax. Stephen adams to help improve the interior zion plan. Moore's i on as far as we know never been known as a defender but he's not known as to delete defender but she was still think he's on the floor more. He's a good defender brandon. Ingram has the ability to be a good defender a little bit smaller. A little bit skinnier but still defender inland lonzo's known as good on balk vendors. So you think realistically defensively. They're not that bad but they are. They're ranked twenty fifth in points and with that situation. You know. we've heard rumors especially from shams carney of athletic. That both lonzo ball. Jj riddick or both gettable. They're they're open to taking trae offers for both players and you know we discussed potentially lonzo ball last show essentially go into three teams. Who could be interested now. Jj redick if your team who needs sharp shooting jj you know. He'll get garner plenty of interest. If you're the pelicans and it's it's just it's just crazy but one thing we have to look at with. The seem is honestly on paper. They look good. But when you look at actually look at it. I i can point out one big zion williamson if you think about. It was on williamson's game. He doesn't have much of a jump shot even though he can shoot a couple of outside shots. He is mainly in the paint type of player in today's nba. Which is all about spreading the floor having shooters the. Pelicans really don't have a lot of great shooters outside. Jj ingram you hit from outside a bit lonzo. I mean has kinda improved still not really a great deal. A lot of guys you have to worry about at three point line and then you got steven adams now. Stephen adams is good from a rebounding perspective. Like i said post defender perspective a hard nosed guy. Who's going to do all the dirty work but if you think about it realistically zaylon as a player who needs the paint to be freed up and now listens ion on still second in the league behind the honest in points scoring the pain but it still feels like yawn. It feels like zion still hasn't been able to fully maximize his play in the paint. Because of stephen adams and i think that's also kind of hurt in that situation plus again the pelicans not having a great group shooters around him so that can affect because listen you have to build around your superstars. Your best players are brandon ingram. Who can play. It's inside now but zion if he's going to be your star star and you know his games inside you have to build a team that goes in south emmy goes outside in terms of. We're going to have shooters in. Zaire can do his work in the pain. So that's going to be the big thing and don't forget the also give stephen adams and extension so they were clearly thinking. Oh this is gonna work. You know you could even say when they had a guy like derrick favors you know it worked better because derrick favors can at least kinda straight floor from the mid range still give more space for is iowa but it's hard also think about this too. If you're thinking about improving the roster in terms of maybe off season with the pelicans after depending on how the season goes it's not like new orleans hot free agent start either so it's not like they can just built easily and then also the air blitzer lonzo ball experiment hasn't really worked. Some people thought maybe that would be a good back court potentially and it hasn't worked out. They actually have not been that great. You know what i'm saying. So it's one of those things where they're not great at shooting threes. They're not great at defense. They're not great at efficiency. And there's just all the roster really doesn't fit too much and so the pelicans right now i think how identity crisis did. They make the right picks with the team. You know that would be one of the big things to look at and so if you look at his pelicans team. They've disappointed a lot of people that thought they were gonna be better so far this season i think first thing. I was the pelicans what i would do. Is i would trade air blitzer. I don't think the lonzo bledsoe experiment works. Lonzo is a guy to meet. You kept him. He's not a dangerous rhythm but he's more of a facilitator more of a guy who other people up and then occasionally can get his shot some of lettuce system here and there so you definitely need a guy who has kind of dynamic and his backward who can kinda who is a score where that way lonzo doesn't feel that pressure to score but also could get easier opportunities because of the fact that a there's another guy you have to worry about. He's he's a threat from the three point. Line and paint inlet lonzo's role. Simplify i think also with a team. That's young pelicans. One thing you want to try to simplify what you want them to do. You don't want to say we need to do this. This and this or bringing players that can hurt another person's ability to be effective on the floor. And i think that's big because my thing is this if they trade lonzo. It's not a ton back for him. You know 'cause lonzo's not this budding superstar. He's a guy who was a second overall pick depending on how you may be hasn't lived up to his expectations remember. It took brandon ingram a few years to live up to his expectations as being a top three pick. So it's not like it's impossible but it feels like lonzo hasn't reached that level yet. That's why i said when we talked about lonzo. I think him going to like a clippers team to be great because his role will be simplified. Rope dictate the offense. Set up the offense. Get the ball to paul george leonard other guys and then when you have opportunities take your shots and i think would in that role within in a role where you need him to do. Be kind of a score in a facilitator and this and that i think that kind of and then. You may not have the the best team around him to do that. I think that can affect his play and that can affect his game and so to me. That's why i kinda get why the pelicans are in the situation. The aren but it just like i said it. It's like you can have talent. And i think the tokens are prime example. You can have talent but it doesn't always mean that the talent works and i think that's what you're seeing in the situation you have talent but it don't mean talent works and so they're gonna have to really make some decisions now. I think what was one of the biggest issues ones. I came back last year. Can him and brandon ingram work. It kind of looks like that works. It's more about the other surrounding pieces in the bench that they're going to have to change and fix the really. Get this team going. Listen it's still early. In the season they can change things. Like i said depending on who they traded for they can maybe reach changed. His team be flipped his team. You see the nets. Currently revamping their entire roster right now with the big three. So you know you have that going so you can. You can do it. It's just do they have the players to get what they want back in return and then on top of that like i said people are going to question was standing. Ghani was the right coach. Why did they get stephen adams and sign to that extension. All those things are going to be questions with the pelicans 'cause they started the year promising and then it just seemed like fell apart last year. Remember the pelicans will lead an ally games. They couldn't lead now. They're just it's just it. They're they're playing like they are legitimately one of the worst teams in the league. And that's just something you wouldn't have expected with with his eye on. That's why you can even see. Some of dion's hype has died down. Because when you're a guy like that like zion williamson with that kind of height. The pelicans are getting primetime. Gangs because of zion williamson. You're expecting the pelicans to be a better team. Because of you don't nba gabelli as ion is there. But they're losing and we have to weigh him in losing and that can be risky sometimes. And so the pelicans. Like i said have to make a lot of changes to this team. They have to improve defensively. They have to prove three point shooting the half improve efficiency. They need a better bench need better players. I think around their tooth core players. I think there's a lot of things that need to be done here with this team. It's just a matter of kim. David griffin fix this situation or is it going to be a loss season for the pelicans. And then maybe next offseason gotta make some tough decisions. I feel like the fact that they're willing to listen to offers. Clearly they make trades. Like i said. I don't know if they're going to go back. But depending on how he makes these trays they might legit throw in the towel for this season. And say you know what. It's just not good enough. We're just got the revamped things this offseason read. See how things go so. It's going to be interested all the pelicans progressive about the season. Maybe you never know they go on a five six game winning streak back in. But we'll have to see what happens with the pelicans brennan keep you keep an eye on this off. This the rest is regular what that's all the time we have here for this segment coming up next Against us more basketball discussion. So stay tuned right here in. Gmc podcast are you looking for the very best nfl in college football podcast. Then checkout gsm. See football podcast. Get the latest football news. Both on and off the field from the nfl draft to treats to the rumor mill to the nfl combines. They got you covered. That's gmc podcasts. Dot com slash football dash podcasts. Get updates on. College rivalries keen de insights and much much more. It's football talk the way you want it. This show eats sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes mc podcasts. Dot com for more info looking back to the gmc basketball podcast. Some we talked about. What's wrong with the new orleans. Pelicans a team that people coming into the season was going to be one of the better teams in the western conference now sitting at fourteenth in the conference one spot before the worst team in the western conference has just not been there. The star of the season has not been good to them. They have struggled can't defend. They can't shoot. Three's the roster's fit playing defense. It's just there's so many issues you can you can say with this team lonzo. Jd radical in the trade bloc. People say everybody should be on the trade bloc except lonzo lonzo launched an unsettling zion and brandon ingram. I mean it just. It just seems like The ship is going down in pelican town and it's just disappointing especially coming off. That lost the saints. Just add basketball teams. Doing really bad. Lsu had a bad year. I it just seems like it's going to be a down year for louisiana sporting. But it's it's just kinda crazy to me. How this is this is. This is working the way it is. But we're going to have to keep an eye out and see how things go moving forward with the pelicans. But now we get into the knicks discussion topic. The houston rock using rockets. Have won four straight ever since james harden. Iverson's you know you know they. They've lost a couple of games. When james harden was traded. I've lead their five in read or to now without james harden and you know john wall play well he just played against his former team washington he said before and after the game was personal form they gave up on me and now you can tell that still bothers john to this day that that they gave up on him. They said that we just think you're not going to be good enough or we don't think you can be the john wall. We thought before and he came out there and had a great game play well in the fourth quarter. You also gotta give love to demarcus cousins. He people forget since it's been a few years now. The marcus cousins was literally the best center in the nba. Could he was averaging literally twenty five at night and like twelve thirteen rebounds demarcus cousins really was that guy in sacramento people. Forget that because of all the injuries he really was good and he's looking like he's getting his legs back under him. He's playing really well yet. A double double main christian would. He has been an unsung hero for the houston rockets. This season a guy who looked like he potential play detroit. Whatever he's fleeing extremely shoot a three can rebound can block shots athletic. You know this is why a lot of people even though he really never played before as much as he's played this season people always said you look at his game man. He looks like he'd be one of the best big men in the game. And he's of showing that now he's he's he's definitely showing the has the potential to be a star big man for the houston rockets. Houston you still got ear. Gord we know heir gordon. A veteran a guy who used to be a top pick. People thought that he could be a superstar in the league and never wretch those expectations. But he's always been a really good player to score. You got pj. Tucker pj tucker's mr all rough rider. You know defines you to three remember. Last year he was he was at the best percentage from the corner and from three. You know yes stevens. Thousands new system. I mean overall this houston team is not a bad team by any stretch of the imagination. This is a good this this houston team to me and i know a lot of people may not see this like i do but houston to me could be a playoff team. I think they can get into this opt-in nba playoff d. That's just my and so for me overall. I think you know seen matt knowing. That is not that. I have high expectations for houston. But i do see them being better than what people thought because i know some people who thought no james harden their tankan. They should blow up the season last year in know if john wall and the marcus cousins can play. Great christian would great. But you're not gonna do that much. I mean you've heard tucker trade talks. You heard eric. Gordon and trade talks. You've heard a lot of different things in trade talks. And so there's been a lot of discussion about just how good can houston beat. And so for me. I i look at houston i say to myself. Well i think they could be one of the better teams in the nba. Not like top four. But i think they can. They can get into the playoffs. I think of john wall boogie cousins. Play very well and can be what they used to be. And like i said we may never get the full demarcus cousins like we used to but if he can still a guy who can score the ball rebound he can still be very effective in this league john wall. Vdb john wall did we knew back in washington he can be very effective is like crystal would seems really good. Eric gordon. I think this team can be pretty decent. And so since. They're playing better as a team. I think this is growing confidence. And they're continuing to get better and we can't forget about victor depot. I think even though a lot of people were expecting early to be traded again. He's played very well with houston as well. And i and i think he's fit with what trying to do in the end what they're trying to do in houston and speaking and speaking victory depot. Let's not forget. i know. Bigger people said that when he was traded he had no warning that he was gonna get trade remembered the off season. We heard a bunch of people trading rumors. He's going to be traded. They want to trade him. They wanna get rid of they wanna move on. He wants to move on and then he came with this season. And i think villanueva. He's a soldier. He's a guy who who who just handles his business. And let's everything off the court headed self houston's playing and the next thing you know he's trade and it's not like oh i'm unhappy traded. Which is kind of like dang. I think he was thinking he was going to get a heads up that he'll be about to get traded he was gonna get a heads up and the fact that he didn't get a heads up. Maybe being like day. I didn't get a heads up and so i think when that happened or when that when that does happen i think that overawe does catch off guard. You hear players all the time talk about. They were car car by trade. They were caught off guard by that because they were sitting here thinking. You know. i'm i'm playing here. I'm gonna do my thing because usually sometimes the players you able to know oh could be on the trading block or they'll let you know. Hey we are shopping you so it's like hey. I may not play another game with his team tomorrow. I could be treated tomorrow where it sounded like depot. He looked at it like wool. I'm playing and as far as i know. I'm going to be here until told otherwise. And then they just traded him. And it's like oh newseum. Now great so i think that was a little different for him. But i think you could be a play often for sure and let me talk about another team in the western conference who has actually exceeded expectations. By far the utah jazz. The utah jazz are currently the the third seed in the western conference. They have one of their tight for the the second. Best record with the clippers. They have played unbelievable issue. Diamond mitchell has played very very well. Hopefully he'll be okay. He's currently in concussion. Protocol right now. But he's played very well would go bare. We doty's listen we i. I was one of the few people who said. I don't really agree with them. Giving him a nine hundred two hundred million dollar contract for what he does but he is a defensive acre. He is a defense of the year player candidate. Who and i mean. Listen he double again. But i told you before. I think mike conley really get his rhythm this year. Finding his offense of stroke. And then jordan clarkson being one of the best six men of not the big six men off the floor. They have three guys who can score the ball then they have shooters. Joe ingles we. He's been around for a while he can. He can have his moments. You know nato other guys like that who can shoot the ball shoot from distance. They kind of our team. That if you look at the way they're constructed they are a very complete team now. I can understand. we may see. Dr mitchell is a top enough star to be a legitimate team in the western conference but he is definitely a guy who have those forms. Make you say hey. Why can't he be and so when you look at the team. They look super impressive. Really good and if this keeps up they like. I said be a top three team in the west from. What told you that there is. Even the west is up for grabs. We don't know who their team in the west is and right now the jazz taken that same that third best team in the west now. I expect him eventually into the two seed. Because you know obviously we don't know how long power fires going to be out with the clippers. So i expect him to be battling with the clippers but if they continue at this rate an f. at the success of winning i think we have to legit. We sit here and say. Hey the pelican appleton smart. Beat the jazz are team. We reckon with their team to really you know. Sit there and be like wow okay. They're really really good. They're very impressive. They're ray well put together. They do a lot of things well and overall they just. They play good. They play good basketball. Snyder is one of the best coaches in the nba. To we don't talk about. He is always been able to coach this team up. They've always been a very well. Coach team does every do do a lot of little things right. You know especially with a team like the last few years where you maybe were not the best team talent wise on the floor but you were always. You always able to stay in the game. Because if i know that's why the jazz even the spurs even with their lack of talent are very competitive in most games because they do a lot of little things right that keeps them in games beat themselves. They don't make mistakes in so with that. That puts you in a position where you know you're always have a chance. And then if you do have the talent. Don't make mistakes then you can take the next step so the jazz right now are looking really good really good basketball. Salt lake city probably really good right now knowing that. Hey after the great playoff series against the nuggets last year. We're mitchell really had a coming out party. It kinda makes you sit here as a jazz or anything. We might make it to the first round this year. We we might actually make a noise might be able to compete on the la teams and in that in of itself is just progress. You know as usual was used because utah has always been the team that has always been around but they've never been considered seriously considered and now you know they may feel like hey with the team we have. Maybe we all have. We make make some noise and make people turn some heads in the western conference. But that's all the time we have here for the moment coming up next week this more. Nba basketball news. So stay tuned right here on the gmc basketball pocket. Check out the show that's built on the mma from ufc. Two extreme cage fighting. They got the fights covered. Check out the gmc m a podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to. And about some of the biggest names in mma past present future when it's the fight game there's just one shot at checkout gsm see podcasts. Dot com backslash m. e. dash podcast. Don't forget to let them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gsm see podcasts. Dot com for more info. Welcome back to the gsm. See basketball podcast right during the gmc podcast network less segment. We discussed victim depot saying he was surprised. Caught off guard the pace of straight into the rockets. it was surprise he wasn't expecting it They never gave them a heads up that it could happen but it happened and now he's in houston he's played very well in houston and came off of a comeback victory over the portland trailblazers so i was a good win for them But you know he's play well. But like i said we knew he wanted out They didn't trade him this offseason. So maybe thinking largest play with the team. We'll see what happens around the trade deadline. They treat him sooner than expected so. I'm sure he's not mad about that at all. So we're just you know. I think he's he's all right with everything that's going on nin we have. We also talked about how good eat or the utah jazz. How good they are. Are they really as good as the record says right now is right now. They are currently actually and i made an correction. They actually sitting at number one in the western conference right now. So i mean. I don't think anybody thinks they're really a number one team but definitely good team and we also saw houston rockets. Can they make the playoffs. Like it's coming off an impressive win. I think that there's definitely a chance. They could make the playoffs as well. But now it's time to continue on into our other future news. So if you remember last show. I discussed the brooklyn. Nets discussing a trade for devel- mcgeown kevin love now. There are rumours that they could actually get another cleveland player but not by trade. Apparently the br expectation growing in cleveland. Andre drummond will be bought out by the cleveland cavaliers. At some point special all big men they have indoors star star. He's starting to feel like must move on. And so the brooklyn nets right now. Seem to be the favored. They've already seemed to have made the connection that they would get on dre drumline i think that would be a huge move for the brooklyn nets to get a guy who can rebound like andrea gemma. We know one of his biggest strength is one the best rebounders in the league. He's another guy you can put down. They're going against a team like beads. Or you know teams have very quality big men to put him up against those guys Also drumming says great on the board so he can get a lotta put back dunks especially with the kind of officer gonna run without a three shots is going to be usually the only one down there rebounding. So he and like i say he's one of the best in the game at it so i think this a great addition to the team. You know what i'm saying. I think this would make more sense than potentially getting a gay. 'cause they're all fine but we all know you have to joe placerville mundine spurts. You can't play bill mcgee thirty minutes. It has to be a spurt four minutes here five minutes here for minutes here. Kepa game for joel mcgee and then kevin love. I just feel like it wouldn't help from a defensive perspective. Wouldn't wouldn't help them playing defense. Which is the weakness right now. Thirteen so i think getting andre drummond breaking him in the do them wonders right now. I think you'll help them out and what they're trying to do Keep them moving forward and you know. Listen like i said brooklyn's team is still under construction. They're trying to figure out who they wanna be what they're gonna do and harvard gonna work out and with that you know. Come some you know learning pains. You know we're gonna figure okay. Who how we want to contract this team and i think andre drummond knowing that you'll probably have only sounded veteran minimum as well. We'll probably be a very very good pickup for them. If they're able to get him and bring them in to. You know the team right now. So you know. If there'd be andre drummond i definitely think that is going to firmly help them and then at that point if i'm brooklyn if i'm looking at the rest of my team and how i can improve at that point i'm looking maybe at a wing defender. Obviously a wing defender will be very important for them to have him come forward because it could be bruce brown. Some people think he's a good defender. But just maybe having another guy to also be is like i said they have some spots available. They have they have some flexibility. You know some trade exceptions so they can potentially get some guys in there. It really improved this team from the bottom up from there and really just continuing to compete and play won't move forward and onto the to the future so they have. They have that to look forward to as well overall at the end of the day. Then we're gonna get into conversation about bradley beal obviously a lot of people create hashtags. Save bradley beal. Rescue rally bill. You know he. He actually a record. Recently actually directly the other night he is the first player to score forty points and ten in ten straight games when he scored forty points in losing. So that's definitely not a record. You want to be part of it even to all that raby bill still comes out and says that he wants to be a part of the team because he said this is why exactly why i want to be here. I wanna change the fortunes of this franchise. I want this team to become a winning team. A lot of people may look bravi bill and think you're crazy for that. But this is how he feels. He must be part of the wizards organization in do that. And so enlisting. He has played unbelievable. He has really showed himself to be a top end player. The league i mean listen at least every night he goes out and you don't want hey my team's not that good. He's route thirty plus forty plus just to have a chance now. Of course it could be a little you know deterring doing that on a nightly basis and never winning because if you just one win every other night it's like or if you're in close games you can sit here and say okay. You know at least close and some days. You may be able to break through. But i also think was also frustrated with rally bill situation any bradley. Beal situation is the fact that he is scorn. These forty four forty seven fifty point games but still losing by ten twenty points. Basically means your team really didn't give you anything and so on so forth but two teams that are currently interested in getting bradley. Beal services are both the la team the clippers and the lakers. We have heard that. Lebron has been a big fan of bradley beal's for years. He's loved bradley bill. He loves the game bradley beal. He's wanted bradley. Beal and the lakers the clippers. They're probably looking at. If we added a guy like bradley bill we would clearly become the favorites india's high western conference and could even maybe potentially offset them needing point guard so both teams feel like a week. Get ready bill. We will become a championship team. I mean it's not like they already not arch just in terms of that. Oh we are definitely going to be a championship team. And so it's one of those things where you really can take. Advantage really can sit here and really go forward really finesse. Really just really take advantage and be great. Ed brazzaville like i said he's in. He's in a tough situation. Listen some people may look at what bradley bills doing in commend him saying. Hey he's loyal he's he's not someone who runs at the first sign of trouble we can say. The weather's been bad for a minute. I mean they really haven't been good. Says john wall was healthy. Even though some people still feel like even that maybe wasn't good enough at that time for a guy like grabby bill. But he's always really good player. A guy who has improved his game came. The one option had have the team carry him. He has to carry the team and he's doing everything. He can to get the wizards to victory year in and year out. You know russell. Westbrook has not been the the investment that they thought he would be. It seems like they've actually done worse with him when he's actually played the neth when they actually haven't had him in the lineup and other stake to see what happens. I mean they are getting three guys back against the hawks on friday. So we'll see how they look in that game but you know we've seen this team fully healthy and they're losing too so we don't know what's going to happen. There's a reason. Why scott brooks is on the hot seat. 'cause the team is starting so bad and i listen to. It doesn't look good when you have two big name players on your team in your in your the worst team in the eastern conference. That's just that's just not a good look regardless of how you put it regardless of how you say it's just not a good look in so you know that's obviously selected scott brooks why they have not been successful and just you know how things have gone. It's just been tough for them but though just continue to just continue to push on and hopefully rally. Bill won't suffer too much longer. You know at the same time as a team. If you're washington you may have to sit there and say to yourself is is it is it. Is it worth keeping bradley bill. Sometimes maybe maybe we should move him just because we may need a complete reset. We can get a lot back for him. And i'm sure that's something. If i'm in the wizards front office i would discuss. Because it's just one of those things where maybe back keeping bradley beal isn't what's best for business if it's not best for business you don't wanna hurt your team by not making a move that maybe needs to be made and that's the truth on that situation so ready bill probably going to be all starkly sign now you feel like you might give him votes at a pity. Even though he's at the performance he'll probably be an all star you know he'll probably still probably be the leading score in the league this year but outside of that have time to show who sometimes that can be the hardest peel to swallow overall. Just not being able to find that success winning on the court and That can always be difficult to keep going with in transpire from at the end of the day. So it's just a matter of them just continuing to get better They continue to get better that we could go but bradey buildings to look somewhere else. And i think that when he does you know listen the fact that he has all these things i want him i say like i said you're the wizards you have to consider moving him. Because you've got teams. Who are who are willing to give up a lot for him because they realize how important he could be to their championship. Success and then maybe find deal that maybe fits which you want. You know maybe potentially you now with whoever the new regime. Especially if you do go ahead and by scott brooks you can go ahead into your new gene and say okay. We're we're going to do this. We're gonna start with this and we're going to go from here and we're going to be fairly. This is the best way for us become successful and then you become successful based that and then you and you know maybe maybe you could become a relevant basketball team once again so we're going to have to see what happens with the brady bill. Saga something that's gonna continue for for minute now We're just going to keep keep an eye on that and see how everything turned out at the end of the day. But that's all the time we have for this segment coming up next we're gonna get into some more. Nba news so stay tuned on the gmc. Basketball broadcast for more basketball talked. Discussion will be right back after this break out this. Show build around the women of mma from the ufc to the extreme cage. Fighting we got. The fights covered the golden state media concepts women's mma podcast. The latest news of upcoming fights discussions of previous matches. Join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's game you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's mma podcast walking back to the gsm see basketball podcast last segment. We discussed you know multiple topics drumming going to the nets. It's been some discussion there. That of andre drummond gets out he will go to brooklyn in join katy kyri in james harden also the la teams. Have i on bradley bill. They both would like to add bradley bill to their squads. Bradley bill is like we we. We've seen what happened with bradley. Beal we've seen the situation. We've seen everything that has transpired with bradley bill. And so you know. Obviously they feel like adding bradley. Bill will make them clear juggernaut favorites in the nba. If they were able to get him on their team. It's just a matter of the wizard sang. Are we going to give up. Brady bill is it. Is it going to be the wizard. That say we're gonna have a bradley bill or is it going to be the Bradley bill salema me. Go but let's go ahead and get into snooze. So have you remember a few weeks ago. Well actually month ago there was reports that there was a meeting within the lanta hawks locker room. About the way they've they're playing solid running the offense to trade. John collins spoken up and said that he thinks that they should run the the they should run a staff includes everybody not running through trae young and you know they were like okay. So there's some issues right now in the atlanta hawks locker room well. Obviously a month has happened. The team ever since going on losing streak has played better. They played a tougher schedule where they played better. They're going to washington on friday and hawks. Trae young says that there is no beef despite everything that's happened and You know everything of that sort nature. Somma read you article by. Blake schuster on the hawks and trae young saying this So and i quote trae young says he and john collins have no qualms with each other despite an early report citing back and forth between teams franchise player. And it's starting forward. Sam amick and chris kushner of the athletic not collins in young lynn to each other during a film session earlier this month. Speaking to yahoo kris haines young denied. The confrontation was any more than two players pushing each other to get better young. Said and i quote to chris hanes of course if there's anything out there publicly is always will go directly to that person as for john for the john incident me and him talked about it as soon as we got out the next day and we were both confused it just got out and it was all over a regular film session. Still there's no beef or anything in there. To begin with there hasn't been any locker room issues on my side. Anything that play people were saying about locker room issues. There hasn't been one. It's been all about our team and how we've been trying to get better and film sessions. Here's how the levick describe this disagreement. And i quote john collins the fourth year big man who just weeks away bet on himself in a big way during his failed extension talks with the hawks shared his unfiltered unhappy views about the way franchise centerpiece trae. Young was running the offense. According to three sources who were either in the session or knowledge of the session was of what was said. Collins raise several issues about the way. The hawks were functioning with hotly. With young at the helm there was no back and forth between the two but the point criticism caught the eye of the room and young sources say made it clear to others that he strongly disagreed with collins assessment. Now the hawks are currently nine a ny sitting atop the southeastern division in starting to look like dark horse contender in the eastern conference. Think to the likes of young collins and center click cappella. that doesn't mean they're going to be more growing. There isn't going to be more growing pains. This is a young team just starting to figure out how to succeed in the nba. Does it happen without some conflict or disagreement young wants to be known that those comments are all in the name of improvement the stakes have been rice in atlanta now on the team to live up to them make i quote making the playoffs. Is the main goal. Young said young set for us these past couple of years. It's been more of a development stage. We're all pretty young and of course we're trying to win every each and every night but everyone's main focus was to get better each and every day and when you're hearing that all the time that's really the main focus so now it's like how can we in each and every day it's a different mindset around here now and so that pretty much you know just says you know the beep between john. Trae young is nonexistent and it. It wouldn't be too difficult or wouldn't be bad. You know on higher. Everything's going and then let me read this other story to you. About lonzo ball. Responding to trade rumors out david griffin discusses. How lonzo ball state Also by blake. And i quote the new orleans. Pelicans slow start. This season has rivals wondering if they could trade for point. Guard lonzo ball. The pelicans haven't shied away from that notion. Either pelicans executive vice president of basketball operations david griffin explain much when talking to reporters about the ball situation and this is what he said on. Espn radio in new orleans. And this is what he say. It's times like these. The fact that we're trying to build a culture around fam- family really matters want to love each other enough to tell each other what we need to hear. That means you have to be honest with your players. At all times. I think our players trust enough. Entrust this place enough to less the case that we will tell them the truth. The truth is when you're six in ten struggling to finish off games disappointed in your results. Teams are going to recognize that and they're going to show interest in the players that covid this just comes with the territory. I think it. I think to varying degrees different players handled these things differently throughout my career. I've had to sit down with guys at times. Like this and i think you saw lonzo ball come out. In the first half prior to turning the ankle in yet one of his best halves of the year i think he realizes he's in karma car park a metalized in in his situation. It's a good thing that people bring up your name because it makes means you're coveted by other teams. I think you have to take that as a positive and understand how the business works. It's quite often acquiring teams. Will until your name out there in hope that there's blood in the water. This is just how it goes when your results are not meeting your expectations. Continuing on with the article ball played fifteen minutes in in the one. Twenty four one. Six victory over the washington wizards posting nine points. Four sis- two steals and two rebounds. The four year guard was making smart. Entry passes and keeping the ball. Movie albeit against the worst defense in the league ball is considered questionable to play against to play friday as the milwaukee bucks. That doesn't mean the. Pelicans are getting ready to move him. Just yet as griffin noted honesty and transparency will remain key pillars of the organization's rebuild. The orleans will be foolish not to hear out trade offers from other teams. That means ball's name keep coming up ahead of the trade deadline per shams carney of the of the athletic and i quote that new orleans has been receiving calls about the availability of lonzo ball and jj brenick it had showed an openness to discuss trade around both interested teams sources. Tell the athletic move. We create a clear path for young guards and to kill walker alexander walker in cure lewis in the pelicans. Rotation ball is averaging eight points. Four points six assists and three point six rebounds per game you per game through thirteen games it makes sense that contenders look and try to buy low on a potential death player. Who can handle plenty of minutes on a championship. Team griffin likes how has response loose talk so far and it just remains to be seen whether he is convincing the team whether you keep him or move him in. So that's what you're so that's was going on right now of everything and as you can tell it's a pretty crazy time of pelican land as i say just when i don what i was talking about in the first segment about what's happening with the entire pelican situation but now but now we have to look into the seventy sixers as us then. We'll talk about here. So sixers are the best are are should. They be the favorite in the eastern conference. Should they be the team that everybody looks at and says we have to be. We saw us the lakers. They beat one of the best teams unless they let that lead late. But a lot of that game you saw. They were able to really take advantage. Even though anthony davis is struggling they will take advantage. Embiid is a beast. He wit marcus. All anthony davis. Because i think and i think one thing i watched when i watched the senate lakers game was i truly believe that. The sixers can match up with the with the lakers. The best because we because of embiid they can match up inside. And because of ben simmons they can match up on lebron not saying that they're gonna stop them. That's not what i'm saying. They have better matchups benson. Mrs like i said one of the few players who is big enough in terms of size and height against the bronx. The bronx can't just simply. He's a smaller guy. It's like listen lebron's stronger so he could still overpower been. But it's going to be a tougher overpower. Because he's he's not a five six four guy trying to guard you. He's six ten guarding you at six nine. Like you have to go up against this man and pounds a little bit. And then danny green continues to shoot the way. He's been shooting. There's no reason why. I don't think they can even be brooklyn now. Clearly the key everybody says. And i think it's the truth to key is going to be ben simmons in his development with his jump shot because it is hard to believe if he does not have open jump shot fake and end up winning because the playoffs when stuff slows down been able to get thirteen fourteen point now in the regular season but remember he's put a one point does in the playoffs in which don't need seventy sixers. You don't need him putting that type appointed because that's going to put more pressure on the rest of the supporting sas tobias hair. She'll be danny green. Seth curry all them to basically make up for that. And i'm sure you don't wanna do that intentionally. Input put that kind of pressure on him to or on that team. So obviously depending on what ben decides to do in his development coming forward. That's going to be important. That's going to be big for the seventy sixers. They're probably the biggest wildcard team to me in terms of just they're the team. That's good enough to win it all but certain but it feels like they have to become an involvement to a certain team to actually end up winning it all and all of its going to hinge on the hopes of been simmons. So we're gonna have to see if they're going to be able to pull it off or they're going to be able to you know. Get the job done. So it's gonna be really interesting to kind of see how everything works out is going to be interesting to see how everything ends up. And we're just gonna have to hope for the best at the end the day for the seventy sixers as they're going to be a team that's going to be in it at the end and we'll know if they're going to be truly truly truly good enough to you know be able to compete at a high level on a day to day basis. So we're going to have to. We're going to have to see but that's all we had here on. The gsm. See basketball podcast. Thank you for tuning in for my lascaux show here. Gmc please don't forget. Listen to our the other amazing podcast. Here at the gmc podcast network. Like i said thank you for letting me part of this experience letting me be a part of your lives. Who've all anybody who's listening to me than all my episodes throughout the past year this is your host price signing out saying have a good day. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts basketball. Podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot. 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Hour 3 - Jeff Duncan (01-22-20)

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Hour 3 - Jeff Duncan (01-22-20)

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I don't know for sure that he won't be a Miami at some point but he and Liu combs the country singer no maybe hosting SNL. Jj Watt is going two. He'll do Saturday night live. Well he won't be able to be in Miami because they keep you all week when your guest hosting there. He will Saturday night. Live for J. Watt. You know he did a nice job in that movie. Bad Mom's he was a soccer coach he was. He was good in this short roll but small role but good Camario. Just sent me this. The Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred said on Fox business that baseball is going to see the use of so-called robot fires during Spring Training. It's common folks. I don't know when but it's coming to major league baseball. It is now you got the NFL. And they're toying with the on side kick in the pro bowl. You still have to have the onside kick. They're just that element the illusion of it. I should say they're doing their best to get rid of the kick off in general but now they're talking about if you're going to do this and I think this this is where you get an additional play from your own twenty five yard line instead of the onside kick yes mclovin fourth and fifteen. But I don't understand sandy one thing about this. What if you just get like legal hands for the face for pass interference? That's GonNa ruin that play because a fourth fifty. There's a good chance that someone will interfere. Yeah do we need this trying to get kickoffs out I know but do we need this. You can still have an onside kick kick. You're going to have a kickoff. What how what's the percentage of returns in the NFL pulling the onside kick in back in the day when you could run up the players on the onset kicking team run up? It was about twelve percent of the time they recovered. Now it's down to four percent. Yes the fact that the governing body of football oh is actively trying to remove as much as possible the use of the foot in the gang is my favorite part the NFL is Bringing the draft to Las Vegas. Okay I figured that it's GonNa Be April Twenty third through the twenty fifth. It's going to be on the Las Vegas Strip now the NFL did a great job. While the city's did a great job. Philadelphia Nashville did a wonderful job. And now we're GONNA take to Las Vegas. Now I guess they're Caesar's Palace and Bellagio and the main stage will be constructed. Starting at the beginning of April next x two CAESARS. And then there's a viewing zone and then apparently there's going to be water involved in this where the draft picks are taken can by boat up to the stage to the main stage Porsche to the main stage cinnamon to the main stage. They're are going to close down the strip. I believe Oblique during the draft. And they're going to. I don't know what kind of boat they're using have we have. We seen that a Gondola Mandala is it. Oh yeah like what could go wrong. And then I immediately started to think which draft draft pick is most likely to jump in or fall in gronk would be the first guy you would think of if he was is being drafted but he wasn't a first round draft pick. But you know you start to think you know one of the Kelsey brothers they would be guys would go man overboard. Are you gonNA be worried about the players showing going up to the draft after spending two or three days unencumbered in Vegas at twenty one years old after you just signed a deal the Asian. Do we have any more details. Details on this boat in the Bellagio Fountain. Where they're going to be yes fountains and they have a picture of a bow? But I don't think it's just a normal looking bored. God I don't know if this is the actual vote they're going to use yes he the. NFL having their draft on a boat in the middle of the desert at some water thing is like peak. I don't even know what but it just cracks me up. I thought Philadelphia's phenomenally did Philly it felt like a musical and and I was like Bonnaroo T. as in terms of TV show. I thought that was so awesome. Yeah I thought they did. A wonderful job in Nashville was cool too because he was downtown. It just looked great. They'd filled it in and had backdrop to and now it's Vegas. Yeah Paulie. Just say the spearmint rhino better. WHOA bring in some extra talent for the weekend? We'll spearmint rhino a busy week. SPEARMINT Rhino people out. There did you guys go with me. One of them went with Jason. GIAMBI does spearmint airman Rhino. Okay how about this. I'm with and spearmint. Rhino is a Gentlemen's club and I'm with I'm with Yhombi. NBA and his wife. I don't know if they were married yet. But we went to the spearmint rhino and I went with Verne. Troyer is well of course. So it's it's me Verne. Troyer and Jason Giambi and his fiance or wife. He pay half the cover. Ah Sorry too soon and it was one of those where you kind of look around and you go. What am I doing here? It took me a little while all before I said that but eventually said I think I got to go. I think I'm down the. SP's I think for the espy's and I remember Giambi's brother. Jeremy was also in tow and he had a mink coat on and it was in Vegas it full length mink coat but I will save Verne. Troyer was very popular at spearmint. Rhino very popular very alrighty eighty as we move on welcome to the program check in with the PELICANS. I was doing some research on the PELICANS and I found out some things on my Pelicans and they started the season. Six twenty two at one point. They lost thirteen games in a row. But that was a long time ago because the Pelicans have one eleven or their last sixteen they ended. MEMPHIS is seven game winning streak They ended. Utah's ten game winning streak and you got some players who plan in really well Brandon. Ingram plan well Lonzo ball plan. Well Andrew Holiday plan well and all of a sudden my. PELICANS got a chance to make the playoffs. I would think with Zion Coming back here Zion Williamson on making his debut tonight. Honestly I don't know if I'm GONNA guess leave them be so excited sided thinking about well. I envy again. He's going to be excited. I don't know if he can pace himself but Alvin gentry's coach is going to have to pay him As he comes back and the fact that he's coming back because I wondered in fact Reggie Miller and I both wondered why would you bring him back but they are in the playoff mix here. He's going to be a big draw for them and they still lack inside presence and jab enough three point shooters is there. But they're they're fun team to watch they are. I enjoyed it Seton with skeptical that I was going to be excited to see drew holiday and Lonzo Oh ball and ice in. Jj Radic said. But I am I. I wanted to see Lonzo ball play and get out of his shadow Diet Dad Shadow and if you look look at the numbers with Lonzo ball in the last month I think he's like seventeen seven and seven and he's he's shooting a respectable he might be like thirty six percent thirty seven percent from three point range. Yeah polling yeah Lonzo ball is. He's averaging twelve and seven twelve and sixty sixty six. He's thirty minutes a game but the last month he's been playing at a different level. He's been he's been playing really well. Yeah I think seventeen team seven. I'll take seventeen seven seven. His free throw percentage is up from forty one percent last year. Worst in the entire league to fifty two percent there. It's okay. He's got to get to sixty sixty sixty five if you're going to have the ball that much. He's on pace to do that. In twenty twenty. Okay I'll wait time. Yeah I got time for my Pelicans. I got I on on that rookie deal. The other big headline was Kansas state and Kansas With that bench clearing brawl. And the question. Is You know what happens. It's you know who disciplined here this. This is Kansas that discipline does the NC Double A. disciplined. I was just wondering that I think actually the big twelve overdo it because it's new. NC violations are like more technical violations this type of discipline if the teams don't do it themselves the big twelve will jumping. Okay that's what I read. Okay okay because I wonder if bill selves says all. Do you know. Sometimes you do that self imposed but this might be the big twelve saying no. No we got this one here. We we got Ben in Arkansas joins us. Hi Ben. Where do you have for me today? Dan six to two fifty I wanted to say thank you to mclovin and Paulie I got to meet them at Pebble beach this year or last year and they were the nicest people ever. Oh Great. Are you sure it was Paulie mclovin. They were they were great. I'll make love and I could mclovin. I would understand but Paulie was one of the nicest uses people and sound like me. Yeah Paulie Paulie was great. I was wearing a shirt and gloves kept pointing it out and a big like them but all the all the way wait. You're the guy who had the shirt on. Yes I remember my bad. Sorry but anyway all. He's not anybody to mess with. Paulie Paulie you're much bigger than you look on. You definitely didn't meet me. I'm like six point one eighty and not intimidating. You met somebody else but I love their shirt row. Shoulders man brought shoulders all right. Well thank you Ben. I'm glad that my guys lived up to the billing of being nice guys. I still can't believe that he met you. Paulie I'm neither Nice nor well-built Matt. Matt in Virginia joins US Matt. What is on your mind today? Hey just wanted to comment on the bayside thing Maggie May Stewart. Yes serve the B side to reason to believe and Maggie May Went on to become a big Rod. Stewart's first number one hits all right. Thank you matt. Yeah we're talking about Larry Walker said he's the beside Derek jeter on the side of a forty five. If you're old enough to remember a forty five I collected a couple of them but my first album I ever had believe it or not. My Mom and dad got me the smothers brothers for Christmas. I bet that was really funny back then though. It wasn't that funny that day on Christmas because I wanted some music and I remember. They got because they thought that I wanted to be a comedian. Like I I wanted to entertain and they said Oh well she. We're getting the smothers brothers. And I went on a send some rock and roll Tom and Dick Smothers. They were funny but I didn't. I didn't want to listen to that. Yeah mclovin did they become sort of political real rebels they got in trouble for being very very left wing back in the late sixties seventies that they there was a political lean to their show. Did you ever have comedy albums like Richard Prior Cosby. I Bill Cosby and I don't know he didn't have. Why is there? Air was set. The name of a bill cosby album or sounds like something. David Sedaris with bill cosby not himself. That was a big one in the seventies. Now you see he's on like a in a wagoner's Wegener is he's he's. Why is their third album from bill cosby? Okay that's why is there air what I have no idea why. It's hard out of shape. Bill Cosby. He was a big big big deal. But Yeah Yeah Paulie. I got Steve Martin's album. Let's get small eleven years old. Yeah I played that through. He's funny dude Let me see what else Chong Cheech Chong had a comedy album. which was Ed bowl songs? Yeah Basketball Jones and a lot of stuff about weed and when you're in love and that was wild stuff I remember Dennis leary. Yeah No cure for cancer in that where he does he have the Lou gehrig joke on there too. And he's smoking. Yeah I remember that being a big deal but you know I say I had an older brother and I shared a room with him for many many years and so I kinda Outta my music was his music you know so whatever. He was listening to that sort of what I had to listen to just based on the fact that we all of those kinds of things are what I got. I didn't didn't share a room with my brother. Had All the music but I waited till he laughed and I went in there and I- cranked up that that Stereo. It was a great sound. Assist Marantz do you remember Marantz receivers and I just remember. I put that thing on that blue. Those blue lights would come on and then and I would just all of a sudden I'd go to ten on the volume or did you have on there. I had You know at the time I had Hendrix the Beatles and I had credence in there was a pink floyd dark side of the moon and those albums just it was one of those once I left home and then I went out and bought albums those first four albums I bought just so used to them they were great. I got this list here of the best host sports related host and Saturday night. Live history okay. Because JJ WATT is going to host February first dion sanders was given a grade of F.. I don't who's giving these ratings. Michael Phelps an a plus Nancy Kerrigan. Ah D Wayne Gretzky see Jeff. Gordon Gordon See George Foreman C.. Plus Joe Montana be Minas genus terribly. Wrong while he was amazing he broke the he had two of the funniest gets in the history of inappropriate. Yeah mine is at least well. I like the fact that you had Montana in the church lady together but do you remember where he was roommate. He couldn't remember things they were making fun of concussions essence order the roommate who said whatever he was thinking and he had a very dirty joke. That was very nowhere for a long time. Andy Roddick gotta be Lebron James GotTa be opening. Monologue was a parody of his Nike Commercial. which he he played various members of his own family critiquing him at home? Lance Armstrong was sixth on the list. He got a B plus I'm Derek Geeta gotta be plus Derek Jeter's Taco hole. Jeaner sings about his passion for Mexican cuisine in and his restaurant which happens to be the fifth best Mexican restaurant in all of northern New Jersey. The Rock he got an eight minus. Charles Barkley is third on the list. He got an a Tom. Tom Brady second and number one. peyton manning that halftime locker room dance is still wonderful will forte. Can't keep it together that that's bill. Hater is in The Hague talking about. And they're both just die Ryan in there. Manning is really talented though. He's he's very very funny. Manning's performance as an unfit mentor for a group of children is one of the better Saturday. Night live sketches. It's a digital short united way. So good he's smoking the kitchen rockets and four yards away way. No I always thought that was a take off of one of the ESPN commercials. That Kenny. Mayne in Stuart Scott did where. We're playing a pickup basketball game. And they're like little kids look around six years of age and stewards block in their shod celebrating taunting them. Yeah I always thought that that skit that Peyton did was take off on them. I will take a break. We'll check in with my Pelicans. We'll be back right after this on the Dan. Patrick trick show. Hey it's Paulie paps for the Dan Patrick Show. We've got an awesome podcast to tell you about today. It's the big podcast with shack. Of course it's big tune in every week a shack and his crew covers sports entertainment and a lot more respect. That's the only way the diesel does it. The show is full of laughs and amazing story. Stay tuned the end of this episode from a great clip from the big podcast with check. Them you should subscribe live on podcast. One Apple podcast and many other podcasts. Listening APPs so you don't miss an episode. We showed a video earlier in the program and it it's a North Carolina high school there was a wrestling match and the two wrestlers going at it and one wrestler picked up the other one and slammed him down a body slam and it looked like it could have seriously injured him now his neck or upper back and all of a sudden they get back and he gets down on all fours and they're ready to start wrestling again and his dad comes out of the stands and blindsides the wrestler who slammed his son. Now's DAD got arrested there. We were wondering if you're the kid you got slammed and that's your dad D- like that. Your Dad has your back there or are you embarrassed. The Dad came. Because it you know son gets right back down on all fours. And he's ready to Russell again and then dad didn't like how son was treated and he comes out of nowhere and boom nails him and then I would say both benches clears like the stands clear dinners this back and forth and dad got arrested. Yeah pulling it was a pretty hard slam by the first wrestler wrestler. But it wasn't the worst of all time he would have been D. Cube from the match. He I think he sables loss of one point. Yeah that's normal deduction but it wasn't the worst slam all time he didn't and the Puck to the and this is in no way excuses. Anything that happened. I'm just curious what happened up until that point Yeah I don't know I'm just wondering I'm trying to find what that fathers reasoning is for going to do that because it can't just be that one slam right. I mean you have to be pretty worked up as a slim though it is but there's no way that you're just watching your kid play and then get slammed like that and you immediately take off to tackle this other kid. I mean like you had there has to be something building up to it. There's no way it's just that one incident and now I'm not saying at all that. Excuse I'm just trying to figure out what in the hell that guy was thinking taking. Yeah I don't know if it was rough match I don't wear it was in the match. 'cause I'm glad he got arrested he absolutely should be arrested and charged with. Everything should be can be. What's that like when you go home when you're the sun and you go home and dad's there and you're trying to teach your high school student about self control and being responsible? That's what the trust me son. That's what I always loved about coaches like Bob. Knight would want his players to play with composure. Be under control in AIDS to wanted loses his bleep. What if the DAD who hit their kick kid wrestler instead of a jail sentence or a fine? He has to wrestle the other father. The other father wants to settle it that way. no-holds-barred you know just just wrestle or get blindsided you know little I for an eye good entertainment on Tuesday night North Carolina. But what if the guy's is dad is some little squeak who had never wrestled before that guy. Looks like he probably Russell before I would want him to maybe Russell. The Kid who body slammed his son. That might be the way to go about this but it dad coming out of nowhere can you imagine. I don't worry receded because usually when you run down those bleachers churches you can hear somebody it just makes a Lotta racket like boom boom boom in your wonderman. Guys gotta go to the bathroom. No He's going out on the Mat and level this kid yes see. Yeah I mean there's that we've covered this before but there's no doubt that parents are ruining kids sports. I mean that that's pretty clear. I remember umpiring hiring little league and I had. I thought it would be fun. Where you're just there and you're watching kids play baseball? And and then you realize the parents are the ones is that are a buzzkill. Because they're the ones yelling at you and then they're cursing at you and you got like eight year olds running around and I got you know Jimmy lipper behind behind. He's he's saying to me. You're squeezing my son as if my strike zone is too small for an eight year. Old Tonight went. Hey I turn to him and I said hey you know get away from the backstop he goes. You can't make me. It's like you know and I'm thinking I'm a high school kid and I'm going. You're probably right. I probably can't but I wanted to talk awesome. And then I thought maybe I toss his son for his dad being a jerk. You're squeezing wease my son. God Oh my God yeah see you rarely get parent on child violence though no that you're right then that seems to to be on another level up here where it's the parent going after a child that let's see that too often loser we somehow make this smooth segue into Jeff Duncan columnist for the Athletic New Orleans. He's never done anything like that. Jeff Happy Zion. Day How how are you going to celebrate. Well Happy Zion Day you to Dan Albeit the arena tonight with a lot of other people Watching this spectacle. How big is this? Well you know it's going to be big. It's probably the biggest basketball event. I think we've had in New Orleans around when Pete Marriage came back to play nineteen seventy four but I hear from a lot of my older colleagues that was a huge event but at that time p marriage was at the end of his career kind of he was playing it out of this. Of course. It's a totally different dynamic with a superstar Xian's of stature come into town at the beginning of his career and You know we had seen someone like this in the social media age each Come to New Orleans. The only thing I can compare to be maybe Reggie Bush who was obviously a huge college star football But I think Zion even eclipses him for starpower. What are the expectations for him? The rest of this season. You know. It's a good question Dan. I think that the organization position has done a good job of trying to temper those expectations on the court But they're doing so futilely Fans of certainly Come out in droves. I haven't seen this kind of excitement over a basketball player ever in the city and I think people just want to come out. I mean New Orleans is a big town. How it's IT'S A? It's a party town as we all know. And PELICANS Games have you know really been kind of on the back burner. As far as interest level but people people are excited to come out and watch him play so I think people will be will be satisfied if he's just exciting brings some enthusiasm to the PELICANS organization. I don't know if people are GonNa expect him to score twenty points a game and they are they are well. I know somewhere. There's no question then But I think people will be happy if he is exciting in and bring some energy enthusiasm to the organization. When you see John Moran playing the way he he has played in Memphis? Do you think that there's any and maybe not buyer's remorse but maybe second thoughts about Zion as we move forward with this surgery surgery and that size doing what he's going to do powerplayer. No don't everyone here I think is over the Moon About Zion Williamson. I think they feel like the basketball guide shined on them again with the odds were against them And I think look the organization is doing everything they can to try. And make this thing right i. I know there's been a lot of publicity with You know how they're working with him with his strength and conditioning. I think if they feel like Dan. They've got a Unicorn here a physical Unicorn and they're trying to get a grasp on how to go forward with him and in he's unique physical ability So some in some respects. I feel like the overthinking and let him get out there and play but Certainly it's the anticipation and excitement over him on the court has built now. It's been thirteen weeks waiting for this debut. When I first saw him a EH couple things stood out? He's wider than I thought but he is shorter than I thought he's six six. But I wonder about this. Pelicans the sort of the the way it's built. I love what they did in the off season. I love the trade that they got. If you weren't keeping Anthony Davis I love getting Lonzo Ball away from his dad brandon. INGRAM MS. You know maybe going to average twenty five game you got Redican there and you've got holiday in there. I don't Know What Zion adds to the lineup. I know starpower NAT lettuces Zim. But is that enough for them to be the eight seed in the West in your opinion. Yeah I think so. I think it's wide open now. What does that get you a first first round elimination against probably the Lakers? Maybe a sleep but for this organization at this time as as as they are and they're rebuilding plan. I think getting that experience with the young roster would be beneficial and I think that's what they're shooting for but in the NBA can sell hope right then. I mean you know you get a you know. Do you have an eighth seed and everyone's alive. I think it's funny. I walk around town now and everyone's like well the Pelicans only three games out and remind them they're also only the game and a half out of the basement. Believe that no one looks that way right they all look up. You'RE A buzzkill Jeff. Come on Dunkin Down Ah. He's Jeff Duncan down columnist for the athletic in New Orleans. Got Any saints drama that you want to update us on well. We don't know grew breezes coming coming back Dan. I think that's pretty big news. What's your feeling fully? Expect him to come back. I I was talking to actually briefs for an interview last week he can. He didn't sound like a guy that's ready to hang it up you know. He's wired differently than I think. A lot of lot of normal people like us are. He's wired to compete. That's that's what he does dislike. Tom Brady I think these guys As long as they're playing elite level and grew certainly was the season. He was playing as well as I've ever seen him but the end into the year I think he's going to continue on. I think he's looks at this roster Dan and says hey look we got Mike. Thomas Alvin Kamara players star players in their primes and yeah. We came up short in the playoffs but we were thirteen and three. We could make another run at this thing and I think he thinks about legacy in his place in the history of the game. Winning Super Bowl would be a big part of that. He wants to come back and give it another run well. It's one thing that he wants to come back in the saints won him as opposed to Brady who may WANNA to come back. But they don't it doesn't feel like they want him back or at least his coach doesn't yeah a hundred percent. I think no one in the organization wants anything anything more than drew brees leading them. I mean he's such a powerful force in the organization. Everyone in the in the club is in all of drew brees and the the whole offense the whole team is built around him and I think it's much different than a lot of other situations You know if they if in wind drew brees finally hangs it up. It's going to be a major overhaul not just on the field but off the field with everything that he does the organization. He's basically the face of the franchise. He's a senator in the city It's going to be a big drop off even if it tastes Miller. Teddy Bridgewater. Well that was my next question. My last one who do you think think is the parent Teddy Bridgewater tastes him hill. I really believe it stays some hill. I mean Sean. Payton is in love with tastes them hill. I mean he has a man crush now sean him. Dan and I think everyone in town does to be honest with you. Such a unique player and he said before Sean Payton said their apparent aren't is in the building and he takes bill. I think he's intrigued by the challenge of building an offense around a different kind of quarterback very similar to to so you know he compared into Steve Young Steve Young got his really start in his career with the forty niners in blossom late in his in his career. Much like tasting pillows. Lose thirty And I think he sees a lot of similarities between that going from Joe Montana. Steve Young very similar transition from breeze to take some help. Jeff have fun tonight. We appreciate your time as always. Thanks for joining us here. Dan grabbed me on. Jeff Duncan columnist for the Athletic New Orleans. Don't we knew him when he was at the Times Picayune. He's been down there a long time. I understand the hype. And if you're in New Orleans fan I know it's a it's a football crazy town and always be a football town but the PELICANS getting Zion. We got something there. I don't know what else you need to add. But they do have ingram. Ingram has a chance to. He's average. I think twenty five a game right now like quietly averaging twenty five again Kyrie Irving and grant hill or the only do players to finish an NBA season. Averaging at least twenty five points brandon. Ingram has a chance to do that as well. Kyrie's done it a few times and Grant did it Wants Elton brand almost did but Brandon Ingram averaging right right Twenty five twenty five and a half points a game and Reggie Miller brought up something that I had not considered and I had not heard. I said why didn't Ingram. I'm last in L. A.. Why didn't he blossom in L. A.? And he said he's small-market guy. There are just certain guys that are wired that way to be a small market guy. They like that field. That's why I thought Kevin Durant was going to be a small market guy and it felt like he found a home Oklahoma City. You Know Reggie played in Indiana Anna. He went from L. A.. And Ucla to Indiana but became that small market guy into certain players. Just feel like they were meant for some of these these cities. And you certainly get that with Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball. You know that just there was too much pressure. There are certain players when they come in when you get a label and we're finding this more celts. He just couldn't stay in Philadelphia. It just wasn't going to work out. There was too much pressure too many. Hi Balls and just getting out to go to Orlando and then you're not being followed constantly by the media. You're not being reported on. They're not sneaking video you of you been trying to improve your jump. Shot and Lonzo just needed to get away from his dad a little bit and look his dad by all accounts is raising good basketball ballplayers Lamelo is probably going to be one of the top five picks lange low is a a good shooter. You wouldn't a great player and Lamelo L. A.. Ball or a Lamelo know who am I Lonzo lunch. Who is a good player? It just I go back to if your dad's such a great coach. Why Kenny teach you to shoot? Because if he had a shot without ability he plays defense he rebounds. He's got that ability that God given ability to find the open man Dan but if he if he keeps improving that jump shot Lonzo ball will be an all star a truly believe impo. Yeah somebody said about the Lakers. The other day a Listed a couple of sports radio guys wikileakers more upset about getting blown up by the Celtics. And don't you think it's cool right now. That the Lakers in a position where they're leading the west they lose a regular season game in every freak out and starts talking about firing people and training everybody and dumping everybody like last year when they blew out the whole roster and got new coaches and all this stuff and I was like okay relaxed but I can't imagine that pressure that those kids were under with Lebron coming in there and then you knew that he wanted to have a fire sale to get it. Anthony Davis AH. So you knew this and you still have to play with Lebron and Lebron's not playing at a high level and certainly not playing well on defense and then Lebron Ron probably said well I got rid of all these guys. ADC coming in. Now I gotta get back in shape where I once was and I gotta play defense and they become a very good defensive inch of team and two White Howard has done a wonderful job there too in Javale McGee. You know I got a D. I got Dwight and McGee. And you know that's that's pretty good it rim protectors there. It's not a finished product there and the more. I watched the clippers last night. If everybody's healthy and you add had that clippers bench. I like the Clippers to be the best team in the NBA. Right now Lakers are fun to watch and everybody loves to talk about them in Los Angeles but the clippers they you got the best bench in the NBA. Right now Denver. I think has been sneaky. Great because people don't look at them as the number one team in the West but Denver is back to where they are where they were last year Lebron's to eleven assists a game leading the NBA. He's never had more than nine assists a game for an average for seasons career. I don't know what it's going to be like come playoff time or later in the year is he gonNA deferred. Anthony Davis is Anthony Davis going to stay healthy because I I know I get criticism in Wisconsin. When I say this? Anthony Davis was the Greek freak before the Greek freak. In my opinion both ends of the floor could shoot could handle Greek freak has surpassed him feels like he's more explosive healthier. But Anthony Davis was a freakout there from the standpoint endpoint of a guy that tall who had handle an improved his jump shot. And that's what the Greek freak is done and now it's impossible to guard him. I will take a break close up shop. Stop what we learn. What's his store tomorrow? It's coming up next here on the Dan Patrick Show. When it comes to comfort down below there's underwear and there's Tommy John? The revolutionary clothing brand. That's redefined comfort for Americans Arkins everywhere including me to put it simply Tommy. John doesn't give an F. They give three APPs fabric fit and function. See what he did there. Tommy John obsesses over every little detail and stitch by using proprietary fabrics that perform like nothing ever worn before as a result Tommy. John's men's and women's underwear sport. 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And I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button one day. You'll see all our wonderful sponsors. That helped make this show possible. Thank you for downloading subscribing at of course supporting and now back to the show Zairean prop bets go over here trying to think the fewest games a rookie is played and and was still the rookie of the year Kazan. No rookie has ever won the award. With fewer than fifty games played eight the most the Zairean can play his thirty eight game. Not that this matters but Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing won the rookie of the year and he played fifty games games. Vince Carter played fifty. I think though Sir Vince Carter's was strike shortened season in Kyri played fifty one. That was a strike break shortened season as well yes. Yeah Patrick Ewing. Who's twenty two years old? He ever twenty nine and two blocks first year at the next fifty games. Patrick Attribution yes. He played fifty. Here's Zaylon profits for tonight. I just want to know over under points. Do have points in here. Paulie I got dunks thanks. I field goal total rebounds total over under nine half for Zaylon total minutes. This is fifteen and a half. That seems low. How did they say something about limited to fifteen? I feel like that number. We've heard that number. Yeah Reggie said that well I would. I just want him to get taste out there because what can happen. Is You get caught up in in the excitement of Zion out there and if he's playing well and the teams playing well and the fans are excited. They've been waiting for this and then you bring him out. You're going to get booed Alvin. Gentry will get booed when he brings out it takes John Williamson over under nine and a half. Four dunks will be eight if I do my math right if he gets fouled on any of those done. I'm going to go under hater no I I hope he gets twenty. Honey I when I say this to Pelican fans there like how can you say making that comparison if he gives you Julius randle numbers. You should be thrilled coming back from the injury if you said he's going to have the numbers. Julius randle gave you last year which was what twenty and eleven. You'll take that because I don't know what you expect you're going to get highlights out of Zion. I don't know if you're not gonNA get Blake Griffin numbers and you probably Think Zion why is going to be far greater than Blake Griffin. The you know. Maybe he'll be healthier down the road than Blake Griffin but Blake Griffin. Put up some monster numbers. I Yeah Paulie Djalmir ants up to thirty seven starts this year. Eighteen points seven assists a game. Each real deal. That's no doubt doubt about it. He's he's a franchise player he's when he jumps like Zion. dunks with power John Moran goes up it takes a little while for him to come back down and he not afraid to go in on anybody. Yes mclovin if you look. I think I'd Hire Zion and then you guys I expect I do expect more blaker of I think he's one of the most unique is since Lebron do you look at Break Blake. Griffin's Prince numbers. Yeah I mean I think he's going to be putting up Blake Griffin numbers in his career. Do you think he's going to do what. What did Blake put up? Blake's first year in the league. He didn't play because of a knee. Injury very didn't play minute and then his first year at age twenty one he was at twenty two and twelfth. You'll take that he can put up. That it'd be Blake had became an assist three point guy. I mean he's hurt. He's after the year. Now what does he what. What did he have did he get up to twenty five twenty his best year was? He's about twenty four years old. The average twenty four points ten rebounds a game then he started coming outside shooter. PELICANS run a high volume offense. I think we'll get get pretty good numbers once he's healthy but you gotTa Ingram in there. Yeah I'll have to share. Yeah they still got a ton of they got a ton of shots up so I think all those guys get big numbers. I hope he's successful. You can't help opened like him. I just think that people have to temper their there expectations with him. And how do you think he fits. Today's game I was I was thinking he might have had more success. s twenty years ago to. Yes I wonder you know. Let me see what that shot looks like it. It's a it's a nice shot isn't going to be a knockdown shot Z.. He is he going to be that fifteen to eighteen footer. It feels like everybody wants to shoot the three. I love that. He gets his excited more excited when a teammate scores than when he does us he truly enjoyed his teammates. Too Unwell Duke. And he's a good passer but he's six six that was what surprising rising but he's he's a lot wider than you think fritzy. What did you learn on today's program? 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Take a special that Matt matter of fact when Phil got their filled with look at the standings and I don't know how he did it he kept US away from Utah and he kept away from on and say the rockets all the time he you just kept us away so he would come and say I take these two games. I'll be like maybe Geneva. Rather by like he would just know and you know his thing was. We needed some type of homecourt advantage preferably the number one spot. But it's been going on for years so you know there's a gamble I've I feel I feel for the fans when you pay your money to see certain play. He doesn't play. I do feel but this is chess championship. Where you want a guy to come come play game and possibly get hurt those mutual to think about? But he can't happen. I can't knock it because I've done it. Just I just notice a gamble and I feel both sides.

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10: Episode 10 of Paul Pickett Podcast

Paul Pickett Podcast

17:55 min | 5 months ago

10: Episode 10 of Paul Pickett Podcast

"It was good. Everybody should boy paul pick it. We back on the triple p. Paul picky podcast on. You know how i do. This is sports edition. You know We wanna get into some nba. Talk in some nfl talk. I wanna talk about though My home state team charlotte hornets man. Like i don't know that we've had any excitement. Like is charlotte hornets. Since like larry johnson and alonzo mourning days like alight. What i'm seeing from lamelo like what i'm seeing when i seen lamelo. He was young immature kid. Don't in the limelight. You know cousin. His brother was famous at the time. Lonzo ball lamelo was matured a lot. Lamelo was matured a lot. I like what i see from this kid for his maturity. He's very tall. He for a look like he's been hitting awaits. He's definitely not you know. Shine away from anything. Kick rebound good. He's six eight rebound capacity is passing. His is extraordinaire Starting to get a shooting rhythm. He hasn't been super aggressive. Like you know trying to score the basket but you know you gotta land of money tied up in the backcourt. Anyways with graham in a scary terry terry rozier. You know terry rozier has been balling grant been balling They got lamelo coming up a bit. But that's the thing the number one pick right now is coming up to date so i am. I supposed to be you know. Put down to number third. Pick from coming off the bench when the number one pick is coming off. The bench in has definitely. I said a lot of money tied up at backward. Terry rozier just got that contract last year. You know graham has fallen out like he did last year. Nineteen twenty game. You know lamelo play a lot of different positions in this day and age. If he gets a little bit more you know cut more bill. I mean six foot eight. He could play power forward. You know powerful small for you probably could pay power for right now in a small ball league that it is you know. So yeah manatee cited you know Not i wanna get into attack devout. When we talked about the john wall and russell westbrook trade houston win the trade. They won the trade because the wizards won a game westbrook. Ea plays He's explosive but he's not a great shooter He's not efficient. And it doesn't look like the wizards are going to make the playoffs. But the houston rockets and other hand. Gye wallin james. Hardie look pretty good together a day school like fifty five points. Day chad late. Almost eight assists at the. You know. I mean if you get twenty eight thirty eight at them you know you got christian would and eric gordon. Pj tucker boogie cousins and daniel house junior. Think his name is. I mean it. Yeah manny affect. They won the trade in the long run. You know and even though hard probably still wanna tell. Es bowling when it comes on a court and that's what they got at least say that he does when he does come to work. He does his job. So i can't not that you know The warriors that the warriors is going to be a bit better. Actually i thought it was gonna be a lot better even without play but attic where overestimating the warriors how good they are so. Yeah i mean. Kelly oubre just hits i three. He's missed lotteries. You ain't really put up a lot of points wiggins put up one big game. you know. Curry's definitely struggling to try to carry a team. That guys who really can't score too much on The hawks atlanta hawks. I like what i see from the atlanta hawks. They got a little bit of young and old mixed on his team. That gallon baga. Mcdonald's pickup our work candidates to stepped up his game. Got andrea hunter. Trae young can't be guarded playing lights. Out unstoppable like what i see. I clicked cappella. Rondo yeah man. I'm like what the hawks have the offer. The hawks definitely gonna make the playoffs. This year. You got the net nets. Look good nets looking good They lost spencer dinwiddie but they still good. I got careless liver. Joel harris fourth option. You still got you know john. Jay jordan and in o jared allen. I like what i'm seeing for. The nets Clippers looked like they got something to prove even though they got blown out when he did by the mavericks mavericks definitely need. Pausing is back because if not that'd be like a five hundred team. You know the ball out this game. Lose next ball out this game. Losing beck's What else Trailblazers look good if everybody stays healthy. I'm interested to see what they could do. Michael porter jr. looks like he's making that step up milwaukee bucks man. I mean. I don't know man. I'm not convinced. Milwaukee eight coming up the east this year in philly looks. Philly looks good looks good dot rivers. Got fairly looking good Ben simmons is looking like the best Ombu defender in the nba the best one on one definitive mba. He was lackadaisical pascal. Siakam you know like that status idid been simmons has to have this amazing jumped shadows shot. He capacity ball rebounded. Play defense Inside that's four days. He does very well that he brings to the table. Most most dues on you do one day very well. They might just rebound. Well might just play defense well on my score well asset this typically agai fourth as well Yeah i don't think there's really much more to get into an mba man Somebody's teams that Or landau looks good but they got beat the other night but they're playing good I mean like yes. Sixers at the top right now. Four one pacers look good. Looks like he's having a breakout. Even a breakout year from last year. But he watch out for him to get most approved year. cleveland I don't think they're going to deb. They're looking good right now but it just They went three. You know they lost two straight. I don't think they stay in the in the playoffs at they don't fall down because you still got the the bucks toronto. Get it together eventually. Even though it's not looking good they wanted three plus they might have had. They've had a somewhat tough schedule You've got the clippers in the sense. Yes science stock about them Chris paul's already changed the face. This is already changed their fortunes. Like if they don't make the playoffs so shot happy so shot. Eighty got my carolina boy. cameron johnson coming off the bench. And he's ball out you know pelican's look good at three into two. Jj rettig anyway got it going yet. t. wolves to onto right now. They got him in a. They'd be an applause right now. But i don't you know between houston mavericks denver. Not starting off to well. I don't see them staying. Wanted those three teams. That definitely be in portland. Jazz lakers kings looking good. But i don't know the kings can hold it up. Like i said houston mavs endeavor who will all three in the playoffs last year and the starting out slow. They all like wanted to one or three but a young man in memphis dead. The bottom of the Once again is thought that youth start really showed us year. It was like they loved down last year. Balling i Let me get to the nfl. And also don't forget if you Youtube hit subscribe button on the right hand corner. Don't forget we're also on Amazon Tuning in several other platforms. You can subscribe to the podcast. Plus we'll be on instagram tv in facebook The browns the ravens are definitely some pressure definitely under some pressure They both got to win games. seahawks already and We got ramsey cardinals. The fight for that wildcard ramsey. Ninety six eight and seven about five hundred and this is Kyle calamari second year Playoffs you definitely stepped up his game. You got the saints lebanon ford already buccaneers. Twenty five there in As still date like tampa's my like sleeper team in on no like seahawks maybe the saints and the packers probably looked better than but i'm still under the radar. The ten and five is brady's first year a still like they. They're going to be scary as hell. Playoff time But if i had my pick to come out The nfc it'd be too the packers and also like they need to make some new rule light for Divisions at the nfc least also known as the nfc east like you can have no team going into the playoffs with a seven nine record. They don't even deserve to be in a place. No no team from that division should even be you know counted in the play offs. I think they need to make some rural you below five hundred and you win a division like your spots forfeited to the next best team for wild card slot We got fc tennessean coats in both ten in five at the both being. No no man's latina fis. It's gonna be tough so whoever wins that division. You definitely you definitely need to win at division. You can't just rely on. A wild card bills are in pittsburgh's in baltimore cleveland. For ten and five. I mean plus you got office at ten a. Five call is going to be tough for anybody in that wildcard spot. Kansas city is definitely it so it's going to be between baltimore. Cleveland off coats tennessee for that wild card slot. And yeah. i'm definitely. I got browns. Beat pittsburgh it's going to be tough man. One of these teams that's gonna come out with these lebanon five records ain't going gonna dangle make it maybe to As a lotta ally ten five teams going to lebanon five. Possibly this week. You know I ain't much to really say man. This is the last week Yeah i don't know what you much really to get into Nothing no real big. I'm gonna get in my picks though Mccullough podcast we gotta landon tampa definitely going tampa dallas in the giants go dallas jets in new england of going to england minnesota. Detroit go minnesota pittsburgh cleveland. I got cleveland baltimore. Cincinnati got baltimore. Miami buffalo I don't know but flows planning josh allen if they don't go miami if they do go buffalo. Seattle san fran. San frans- fell off from super bowl last year seattle arizona charge is just a herbert ball out as she could have the charges at ten six. I'm going charges. I mean just a herbert's definitely the quarterback of the future jacksonville. Indy indy over jacksonville. Tennessee has used tennessee over. Houston vegas. Las vegas raiders. In denver broncos mcgaw the raiders. Am i bad. It was a said the charges versus cardinals. It's the rams versus the cardinals in charges versus the chiefs. and just a herbert. Those still correct. The future chiefs are not playing mahomes. I'm going to say that. The charges win at green bay in the bears. I got green bay in new orleans carolina. I got nor orleans in washington philly. I've got washington Mvp for the year. I'm going to. I'm it's gotta be. Aaron rodgers has the mvp year. If not it's it's a fluke Coach the year. Kevin the fancy. Fancy him going. kevin's defence. Give coach of coaching year Rookie dear i'm going just in herbert dowsett man. You know i mean ain't no really big news. You know this last week coming up if you on you know. The youtube hit the subscribe in right hand corner also check out. Check us out on applebees or amazon tune in several other platforms as well instagram. Tv facebook. you know twitter. Follow us at. Paul podcast facebook. Paul pick podcasts. Google paul picket podcast. Once again i'm your host. Paul pigott of check out some websites. Promo palace dot is in decastro dot net planet platelets dot com newletter dot com for that new little apparel and we got the website coming for the podcast is well and Stay tuned in new videos every week. Don't forget to check out the music marketing as well on topic podcast and i'm out peace.

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